Not Quite the Roman Coliseum, But It’ll Do

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[Editor's Note: Longtime reader Mike Cooperman attended last Saturday's Dodgers/Bosox exhibition game at the fabled L.A. Coliseum and generously offered to provide the following account of his day -- enjoy. -- PL]

By Mike Cooperman

Along with 114,298 of our closest friends, my wife and I took in Saturday night’s Dodgers/Red Sox game at the Los Angeles Coliseum. The game featured some interesting Uni Watch fodder — some classic, and some we could have done without.

Why, you might ask, would the Dodgers be playing a baseball game in a football stadium, especially since the stadium configuration resulted in left field being only 201 feet away from the plate, with a 60-foot-high net?

Well, it just so happens that 2008 is the 50th anniversary of the Dodgers moving from Brooklyn to Los Angeles. And when the Dodgers arrived in Los Angeles, they played their first four years in the Coliseum.

Yet, neither of the above-linked logos ended up on the Dodgers’ jerseys for Saturday’s game. Instead, they wore a barely visible patch honoring the team’s official charity, ThinkCure (to which all proceeds from the game were donated). While their hearts were certainly in the right place, methinks their logo designers were not.

Between innings, the Dodgers honored influential figures from the team’s history, including several players from the late ’50s and early ’60s, who were honored alongside Lakers great Kareem Abdul-Jabar (since he, like the Dodgers, is originally from Brooklyn). So, how come Kareem got an authentic fitted cap, but Duke Snider got stuck with something from the gift stand?

Speaking of caps, the same marketing geniuses who had the cool idea of bringing the Dodgers back to the Coliseum also came up with this — a hybrid of the Dodgers cap in USC Trojan colors, readily available at the memorabilia shops conveniently located every 10 feet. As a Trojan alum, I absolutely do not approve, plus it feels like a rip off of this. While I had to stare at the back of that cap the entire game, at least I could look to my left and admire the classic kicks of the guy sitting next to me.

While we witnessed history — not only the largest crowd in baseball history but certainly the largest wave as well — the Dodgers missed a chance to set up a Battle of the stylized Bs. Also, I learned definitively that there is a third certainty in life: death, taxes, and no matter what logos, caps, or venues are involved, Dodgers fans still come in the 2nd inning and leave in the 7th.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Latest team planning to use a translated team name to appeal to the Latino market: the Mariners, who’ll dress up as the Marineros on May 31st. … NC State broke out some awesome striped stirrups on Tuesday (additional pics here and here, courtesy of Drew Johnson). … Yesterday I linked to this story about an April Fool’s Day prank. That led to the following response from Matt Rizzolo: “I’m actually friends with the guy pictured on the card. His name is Sensen Lin, and he’s a 25-year-old law student at NYU who I worked with this past summer at Ropes & Gray, a law firm in NYC. The kicker is that he isn’t a baseball player or even a fan, and he’s not even Japanese — he’s Chinese! He told me that they paid him about $600 for two hours of posing. Not bad work, huh?” … Got a sweet tooth? Now you can have your favorite MLB team’s logo printed on M&M’s. Too bad they felt the need to include the little “™” marks, which kinda ruins all the fun, at least for me. If the M&M’s “m” logo doesn’t have a trademark annotation, why should the MLB logos? Jeez. … The Wild will be wearing a “Team of 18,000″ patch tonight (I guess that’s sort of the opposite of “Army of One,” right?), and all fans in attendance will receive the patch as well. Details here (with thanks to Matt Myer). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: The Mets’ little Velcro patch, whose stitched outline is usually visible between “New” and “York” on the team’s road jersey, appears to be missing so far this year. My hunch: Because the Mets went straight from spring training to a season-opening road trip, equipment manager Charlie Samuels hasn’t had time to add the little Velcro patches. I suspect they’ll be sewn on once the team gets back to New York. … Steven Siegel got a good shot of Jose Molina wearing a knit cap under his hockey-style mask last night. … Lots of info here about the Giants’ Super Bowl ring design. As a longtime Jints fan who hates gold and loves anything silver-toned, I’m psyched to see that the ring will be white gold. … The South Carolina Gamecocks have gotten some newfangled equipment (with thanks to Franklin Beau). … Ready for the new NFL logo? Roger Goodell sure is (courtesy of Brinke Guthrie). … As you probably know by now (and as Larry Bowa has certainly been made aware), third base coaches are required to stay within the coaching box this year. But Mike Hersh notes that the 3B box in San Diego appears to have been extended. Anyone know if this is an MLB-wide thing, or are the Padres just looking to give their coach a bit of extra leeway? … It’s hard to see, but the Indians’ NOB drop shadow is now gone (although the outlining is still there).

 

206 comments to Not Quite the Roman Coliseum, But It’ll Do

  • Mark MihaIik | April 3, 2008 at 8:49 am |

    None of the links from dailynews.mycapture.com are working. They all send you to the same default page, where’s there’s nothing from the Coliseum game.

  • Stuby | April 3, 2008 at 8:52 am |

    Paul,

    Bengie Molina plays for the Giants; Tha Molina on the Yanks wearing the toque is Jose (Yadier plays in St. Louis). I know its hard to keep up with those Molinas.

  • Joey Guns | April 3, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    I was at the Yankees-Blue Jays game last night, and I ended up sticking around a few minutes after the game ended. I noticed that one of the Yankees relievers had the rooking hazing pink backpack that some other teams (Angels, Red Sox, etc) have been using for a few years.

    Have the Yankees always been doing this, or is this something new?

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    people still do the wave?

  • who cares | April 3, 2008 at 9:04 am |

    Black Stars decided to dress up as Angola in a friendly against Mexico. Yak!

  • scott | April 3, 2008 at 9:05 am |

    They do the wave everywhere!

    The AP game story for the Astros-Padres mentioned the extended third base coaching box.

  • Chris | April 3, 2008 at 9:05 am |

    Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.

  • Shaftman | April 3, 2008 at 9:07 am |

    Hey Paul,
    Is it possible that the Mets have the Velcro installed but because the road uni’s are now Cool Base™ they can’t be seen as well? Just a thought.

  • Paul Lukas | April 3, 2008 at 9:08 am |

    [quote comment="246941"]None of the links from dailynews.mycapture.com are working. They all send you to the same default page, where’s there’s nothing from the Coliseum game.[/quote]

    Shit — sorry about that. Link rot must have set in extra-early on those pics. I’m not home right now, but when I get home later this morning I’ll see if I can do anything about it.

  • MPowers1634 | April 3, 2008 at 9:12 am |

    [quote comment="246952"]Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.[/quote]

    I noticed that yesterday. I even double checked the Lids website to investigate the D on both the home and road caps. Much to my chagrin, they were both the same.

    And as for the Diamondbacks mirror image DB/Snake logo, I have to admit, I have never seen it as a snake before it was on the M&M!

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | April 3, 2008 at 9:14 am |

    [quote comment="246952"]Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.[/quote]
    Anybody notice that if you click on the drop-down box in “Choose your team”, that the Tampa AL franchise is listed as “Tampa Bay Rays”, and the candies feature four logos – one of which is the now defunct “Devil Ray”?
    Or am I not the first one who clicked through and looked at EVERY TEAM? ;-)

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | April 3, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment="246956"][quote comment="246952"]Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.[/quote]

    I noticed that yesterday. I even double checked the Lids website to investigate the D on both the home and road caps. Much to my chagrin, they were both the same.

    And as for the Diamondbacks mirror image DB/Snake logo, I have to admit, I have never seen it as a snake before it was on the M&M![/quote]
    Also – the “angry Pirate” is prominently featured for Pittsburgh, but no red in sight. Hoo-rah!

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    [quote]am I not the first one who clicked through and looked at EVERY TEAM? ;-)[/quote]

    no…but you’re the only one who clicked on the devil rays :O

  • Adrian | April 3, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    Also from last night’s Blue Jays-Yankees game, #20 Rod Barajas was wearing a #23 batting helmet. I know Shannon Stewart switched from #4 in Spring Training to #23 for the regular season, and Barajas switched from #23 to #20. Funny they haven’t updated the helmets yet.

  • Dane | April 3, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    A request:

    Paul (and other traditionalists), close your eyes

    A friend of mine has her replica Mets jersey and cap, and does agree that Ditch the Black is an excellent idea. But it’s pushed her into thinking that having another color hat would be good.

    I want to see what you guys can find for a WHITE Mets cap. I’ve already looked at some of the big sites (mlb, lids, starstruck, eastbay), but I know this group can uncover some real gems out there.

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment="246966"]A request:

    Paul (and other traditionalists), close your eyes

    A friend of mine has her replica Mets jersey and cap, and does agree that Ditch the Black is an excellent idea. But it’s pushed her into thinking that having another color hat would be good.

    I want to see what you guys can find for a WHITE Mets cap. I’ve already looked at some of the big sites (mlb, lids, starstruck, eastbay), but I know this group can uncover some real gems out there.[/quote]

    so…you’re looking to buy this?

  • Shaftman | April 3, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment="246966"]A request:

    Paul (and other traditionalists), close your eyes

    A friend of mine has her replica Mets jersey and cap, and does agree that Ditch the Black is an excellent idea. But it’s pushed her into thinking that having another color hat would be good.

    I want to see what you guys can find for a WHITE Mets cap. I’ve already looked at some of the big sites (mlb, lids, starstruck, eastbay), but I know this group can uncover some real gems out there.[/quote]

    You mean this.
    ?

  • Shaftman | April 3, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    DAMMIT PHIL!!!

  • Ross | April 3, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    Hey Paul,
    I don’t know if you got an answer yet from Tuesday’s post about the Reds. But the player sporting the mow-hawk is Brandon Phillips.

  • MPowers1634 | April 3, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    [quote comment="246958"][quote comment="246952"]Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.[/quote]
    Anybody notice that if you click on the drop-down box in “Choose your team”, that the Tampa AL franchise is listed as “Tampa Bay Rays”, and the candies feature four logos – one of which is the now defunct “Devil Ray”?
    Or am I not the first one who clicked through and looked at EVERY TEAM? ;-)[/quote]

    Again, I hate to adnit that I am a sucker for anything logo-related and scrolled through EVERY SINGLE TEAM!

  • who cares | April 3, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.

  • Brandon | April 3, 2008 at 9:24 am |

    Jose Molina plays for the Yankees and Bengie Molina plays for the Giants.

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment="246969"]DAMMIT PHIL!!![/quote]

    c’mon j…

    i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

    did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)

  • Dane | April 3, 2008 at 9:25 am |

    I wish the Houston Astros M&M’s included an orange candy.

  • Adam | April 3, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment="246958"]Anybody notice that if you click on the drop-down box in “Choose your team”, that the Tampa AL franchise is listed as “Tampa Bay Rays”, and the candies feature four logos – one of which is the now defunct “Devil Ray”?[/quote]

    Isn’t that “Devil Ray” still used as a sleeve patch?

  • Kevin M. | April 3, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment="246958"][quote comment="246952"]Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.[/quote]
    Anybody notice that if you click on the drop-down box in “Choose your team”, that the Tampa AL franchise is listed as “Tampa Bay Rays”, and the candies feature four logos – one of which is the now defunct “Devil Ray”?
    Or am I not the first one who clicked through and looked at EVERY TEAM? ;-)[/quote]

    Thats cause they are still using the Devil Ray as a arm patch so for right now it is still part of their design.

  • Shaftman | April 3, 2008 at 9:29 am |

    [quote comment="246974"][quote comment="246969"]DAMMIT PHIL!!![/quote]

    c’mon j…

    i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

    did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)[/quote]

    I googled “Mets Ice Cream Cap” and it’s always the first one to pop up. I know that there are other pics, but I always loved that one.

    Bernard just looks so freaking happy to be wearing it.

  • Danny | April 3, 2008 at 9:30 am |

    The extended third base coaching box is a result of tuesday night. In an effort to keep the grass healthy, the grounds crew moves the box up and down the baseline. On tuesday night, the side closest to home plate was even with third base. As a San Diego runner was coming to third he blew threw the stop sign because he couldnt see the third base coach. The Padres staff put some of the blame of a 2-1 loss on the box location. so for wednesday they extended the box, you can see where the old end line is. i suspect it will be back to normal by the next home series.

  • MPowers1634 | April 3, 2008 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment="246967"][quote comment="246966"]A request:

    Paul (and other traditionalists), close your eyes

    A friend of mine has her replica Mets jersey and cap, and does agree that Ditch the Black is an excellent idea. But it’s pushed her into thinking that having another color hat would be good.

    I want to see what you guys can find for a WHITE Mets cap. I’ve already looked at some of the big sites (mlb, lids, starstruck, eastbay), but I know this group can uncover some real gems out there.[/quote]

    so…you’re looking to buy this?[/quote]

    Whenever I see Bernard Gilkey, I am reminded of the scene in MIB when the spaceship flies over his head and he geys bonked with the pop up!

    BTW, I was watching the Mets/Fish for a bit last night and was really bothered by all of the black on the wristbands, jerseys, socks, etc.

    I haven’t voluntarily watched a Mets game since Kevin McReynolds was trolling the outfield. Because of the interest that Uniwatch has created my love for baseball has been rekindled to the point that I will skip bewteen FSNY to watch the Mets and YES to watch the Yanks. We, in New York really have a great baseball situation!

  • Mike Engle | April 3, 2008 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment="246974"][quote comment="246969"]DAMMIT PHIL!!![/quote]

    c’mon j…

    i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

    did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)[/quote]
    I think of that Japanese pitcher. Forget his name…
    Funny how when he came to the Mets, he was given #18, which is apparently a number of high praise for a pitcher. (Why is this again? Paging Mr. Brahm.) But when he proved his unworthiness and went back to Japan, he was given #49, which I believe represents death and pain, respectively.

  • Dane | April 3, 2008 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment="246967"][quote comment="246966"]
    I want to see what you guys can find for a WHITE Mets cap. I’ve already looked at some of the big sites (mlb, lids, starstruck, eastbay), but I know this group can uncover some real gems out there.[/quote]

    so…you’re looking to buy this?[/quote]

    It’s a good start. Found something similar at Lids. Over at MLB.com, this one is respectable, whereas this needs to disappear quickly.

  • Walaitis | April 3, 2008 at 9:36 am |

    http://chicago.cubs....

    Yosh Kawano leaving Cubs clubhouse after 65 years of service? Slacker. I thought he was dedicated.

    Yosh was equipment manager for the cubs for 46 years. In most professions, I might as if this is a record, but at least for those that started in baseball in the “mid-1900’s”, I suppose this may not be so rare!

  • Shaftman | April 3, 2008 at 9:41 am |

    [quote comment="246983"][quote comment="246974"][quote comment="246969"]DAMMIT PHIL!!![/quote]

    c’mon j…

    i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

    did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)[/quote]
    I think of that Japanese pitcher. Forget his name…
    Funny how when he came to the Mets, he was given #18, which is apparently a number of high praise for a pitcher. (Why is this again? Paging Mr. Brahm.) But when he proved his unworthiness and went back to Japan, he was given #49, which I believe represents death and pain, respectively.[/quote]

    Japanese pitcher was Masato Yoshii.

  • Mike Engle | April 3, 2008 at 9:43 am |

    [quote comment="246989"][quote comment="246983"][quote comment="246974"][quote comment="246969"]DAMMIT PHIL!!![/quote]

    c’mon j…

    i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

    did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)[/quote]
    I think of that Japanese pitcher. Forget his name…
    Funny how when he came to the Mets, he was given #18, which is apparently a number of high praise for a pitcher. (Why is this again? Paging Mr. Brahm.) But when he proved his unworthiness and went back to Japan, he was given #49, which I believe represents death and pain, respectively.[/quote]

    Japanese pitcher was Masato Yoshii.[/quote]
    Am I?
    My mental image of him [#18] in the ice cream cap is of a southpaw, but the New York Times says he’s a righty.

  • Mike Engle | April 3, 2008 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment="246990"][quote comment="246989"][quote comment="246983"][quote comment="246974"][quote comment="246969"]DAMMIT PHIL!!![/quote]

    c’mon j…

    i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

    did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)[/quote]
    I think of that Japanese pitcher. Forget his name…
    Funny how when he came to the Mets, he was given #18, which is apparently a number of high praise for a pitcher. (Why is this again? Paging Mr. Brahm.) But when he proved his unworthiness and went back to Japan, he was given #49, which I believe represents death and pain, respectively.[/quote]

    Japanese pitcher was Masato Yoshii.[/quote]
    Am I?
    My mental image of him [#18] in the ice cream cap is of a southpaw, but the New York Times says he’s a righty.[/quote]
    Sorry for quoting myself, but I found my picture. (Here)

  • dilbert719 | April 3, 2008 at 9:47 am |

    I’m stunned. Am I really the first one to notice the missing “B” in Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s name?

  • Miguel | April 3, 2008 at 9:49 am |

    Please don’t call those kicks “classic”. I know most Jordanheads will disagree, but most of the Spizikes are pretty fug. If the cool greys release, though, I will probably cop those.

  • Shaftman | April 3, 2008 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment="246990"][quote comment="246989"][quote comment="246983"][quote comment="246974"][quote comment="246969"]DAMMIT PHIL!!![/quote]

    c’mon j…

    i just surprised we were the ONLY two…that’s the first pic EVERYONE thinks of when you hear “white” “cap” and “mets” in the same sentence

    did you have it bookmarked, did you go the MBTM, UMDB, or did you google “bernard gilkey ice cream man”…that’s my only question ;)[/quote]
    I think of that Japanese pitcher. Forget his name…
    Funny how when he came to the Mets, he was given #18, which is apparently a number of high praise for a pitcher. (Why is this again? Paging Mr. Brahm.) But when he proved his unworthiness and went back to Japan, he was given #49, which I believe represents death and pain, respectively.[/quote]

    Japanese pitcher was Masato Yoshii.[/quote]
    Am I?
    My mental image of him [#18] in the ice cream cap is of a southpaw, but the New York Times says he’s a righty.[/quote]

    You’re absolutely right…my bad.

    Pitcher in the white cap is actually Takashi Kashiwada.

  • Mark | April 3, 2008 at 9:50 am |

    If the Mets’ jerseys don’t have Velcro now, they likely won’t, as it’s put on by the mfr before the lettering goes on. Otherwise, you have to sew through your lettering (in this case only the “Y” in “York”, but still…).

  • Phil | April 3, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment="246994"]Please don’t call those kicks “classic”. I know most Jordanheads will disagree, but most of the Spizikes are pretty fug. If the cool greys release, though, I will probably cop those.[/quote]

    Miguel, you beat me to it. Agreed, Spizikes are heinous. Blasphemous to even the most novice shoehead. Although the Cool Greys are pretty damn tempting…

  • Tim | April 3, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment="246958"][quote comment="246952"]Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.[/quote]
    Anybody notice that if you click on the drop-down box in “Choose your team”, that the Tampa AL franchise is listed as “Tampa Bay Rays”, and the candies feature four logos – one of which is the now defunct “Devil Ray”?
    Or am I not the first one who clicked through and looked at EVERY TEAM? ;-)[/quote]

    The Devil Ray is not defunct as it is still a part of their scheme. It appears on both the home and road jerseys in the form of a patch on the left sleeve.

  • Mike Engle | April 3, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment="247000"][quote comment="246958"][quote comment="246952"]Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.[/quote]
    Anybody notice that if you click on the drop-down box in “Choose your team”, that the Tampa AL franchise is listed as “Tampa Bay Rays”, and the candies feature four logos – one of which is the now defunct “Devil Ray”?
    Or am I not the first one who clicked through and looked at EVERY TEAM? ;-)[/quote]

    The Devil Ray is not defunct as it is still a part of their scheme. It appears on both the home and road jerseys in the form of a patch on the left sleeve.[/quote]
    Which makes the whole ensemble even more troublesome. They go through the trouble of making the word-mark imply sun rays, and then they slap a devil ray on the arm. Why?
    (Sorry in advance if I’m plagiarizing anybody’s thoughts. This is my opinion, but it sounds awfully familiar, as if somebody else wrote it here as well. Take your credit if you deserve it.)

  • The Modernish Father | April 3, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment="246980"]The extended third base coaching box is a result of tuesday night. In an effort to keep the grass healthy, the grounds crew moves the box up and down the baseline. On tuesday night, the side closest to home plate was even with third base. As a San Diego runner was coming to third he blew threw the stop sign because he couldnt see the third base coach. The Padres staff put some of the blame of a 2-1 loss on the box location. so for wednesday they extended the box, you can see where the old end line is. i suspect it will be back to normal by the next home series.[/quote]

    Uh… San Diego won that game Tuesday night. I doubt their coaching staff was too upset about it.

  • Dave | April 3, 2008 at 10:03 am |

    It’s hard to see, but the Indians’ NOB drop shadow is now gone (although the outlining is still there).

    I don’t think that the home white’s and now-defunct vest were had drop shadows, it was only the blue alternate.

  • Chris | April 3, 2008 at 10:05 am |

    Regarding the Mets velcro- actually, if you look very, very closely, that little velcro patch is way to the right if you are looking at the jersey (hidden mostly underneath the Y). I think it has something to do with the fact that they are the Cool Base jerseys and the material is so flimsy. I have been watching in HD and picked up on that right away. If you look at some of the images, you can see that the top two buttons on some players are unbuttoned, yet the part where the velcro is is still “stuck” to the jersey. Samuels doesn’t add the velcro either, that comes directly from Majestic. I have found evidence of this practice back to the days when the Mets used Rawlings in 1999.

  • Kevin M. | April 3, 2008 at 10:06 am |

    I noticed during the Yankees/Blue Jays game last night that the Yankees still had the All star patch and the Yankee Stadium patch on. Guess it wasn’t just a one night thing like someone said.

  • Juan Grande | April 3, 2008 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment="246952"]Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.[/quote]

    I’m happy there is no black Mets M&Ms

  • Paul Lukas | April 3, 2008 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment="247003"]It’s hard to see, but the Indians’ NOB drop shadow is now gone (although the outlining is still there).

    I don’t think that the home white’s and now-defunct vest were had drop shadows, it was only the blue alternate.[/quote]

    The home whites did indeed have the drop shadow.

  • Mark in Shiga | April 3, 2008 at 10:16 am |

    Funny how when he came to the Mets, he was given #18, which is apparently a number of high praise for a pitcher. (Why is this again? Paging Mr. Brahm.) But when he proved his unworthiness and went back to Japan, he was given #49, which I believe represents death and pain, respectively.

    Number 18 has been given to ace pitchers often in recent years.

    This comes from the Japanese association of the number 18 with one’s specialty, or something they can do really well. As for where that came from, it originates with kabuki. (Yes, really.)

    Back in the early 1800s, the famous actor Ishikawa Danjuro made a compilation of eighteen great performances for which his family was renowned. These sheets were kept by actors in their boxes, or o-hako, and so “number 18″ and “o-hako” came to be associated with one another. Either one of these words is used today to mean something someone is particularly good at performing, or doing in general.

    Why it was chosen for ace starting pitchers and not fielding wizards or relief specialists (for whom the origin seems to fit better) is unknown.

    Four (shi) and nine (ku) are indeed death and pain. They love to give those numbers to foreign players who don’t know about those associations — George Altman, Randy Bass, and Cecil Fielder all got this number for the Hanshin Tigers, and it has become associated with power hitters on their team just like it is with Henry Aaron and Reggie Jackson.

  • Dave B | April 3, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment="246944"]Paul,

    Bengie Molina plays for the Giants; Tha Molina on the Yanks wearing the toque is Jose (Yadier plays in St. Louis). I know its hard to keep up with those Molinas.[/quote]

    “It’s America’s favorite game, Name That Molina!”

  • Mike | April 3, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    I have been uot in San Diego for work this past week and been to two Padres games so far. I noticed the extended 3rd base coaches box yesterday and got on here this morning to see if anyone else had noticed it….and of course, they did. Also noticed Maddux was wearing fake stirrups last night for his first start. Lots and lots of the old brown and yellow was either being worn by fans or sold in the team store. Nice ballpark, but give me PNC Park anyday….and I will be there Monday for the home opener!

  • Concerned Citizen | April 3, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    The problem is you have to buy three bags of M&Ms minimum at $12.99 each. Which puts the kibosh on my idea for the all-AL East M&M dispenser…

    … and for God’s sake, when is Angelos gonna start putting BALTIMORE on the M&Ms?????

    /sarcasm

  • MPowers1634 | April 3, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment="246999"][quote comment="246994"]Please don’t call those kicks “classic”. I know most Jordanheads will disagree, but most of the Spizikes are pretty fug. If the cool greys release, though, I will probably cop those.[/quote]

    Miguel, you beat me to it. Agreed, Spizikes are heinous. Blasphemous to even the most novice shoehead. Although the Cool Greys are pretty damn tempting…[/quote]

    For some ungodly reason, these shoes are all the rage with my students! In my opinion, they look as if Tinker Hatfield took evert one of the first six Jordans, threw them into a blender and came up with these concoctions.

    The pair that Stephen Jackson, not Baron Davis, has been wearing, known as the “Laney High School/”Do the Right Thing” edition must be the worst of the bunch!

  • Nolan | April 3, 2008 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment="246999"][quote comment="246994"]Please don’t call those kicks “classic”. I know most Jordanheads will disagree, but most of the Spizikes are pretty fug. If the cool greys release, though, I will probably cop those.[/quote]

    Miguel, you beat me to it. Agreed, Spizikes are heinous. Blasphemous to even the most novice shoehead. Although the Cool Greys are pretty damn tempting…[/quote]

    Thanks for answering the question I didn’t need to ask. I’m no collector but I immediately noticed those where not “classic” but some sort of crazy combination of other shoes…right?

  • chance | April 3, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment="247001"]They go through the trouble of making the word-mark imply sun rays, and then they slap a devil ray on the arm.[/quote]

    That’s always bothered me as well.

    It’s a thoroughly half-assed rebranding, trying to have it both ways.

  • Mike | April 3, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    check this out about half way down the page, interesting tidbit about the Pittsburgh Baseball Club…with photos!

    http://www.post-gaze...

  • chance | April 3, 2008 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment="246991"]
    Sorry for quoting myself, but I found my picture. (Here)[/quote]

    And that was the last time the Mets uniforms looked really great.

    I understand that not everybody liked the white cap (though I did, and am thrilled to see the Portland Beavers have introduced one as an alternate.

  • Garbonzo Bean | April 3, 2008 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment="246972"]The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.[/quote]

    Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

    On another note…
    Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…

  • Garbonzo Bean | April 3, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment="247027"][quote comment="246972"]The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.[/quote]

    Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

    On another note…
    Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…[/quote]

    HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment="247019"][quote comment="247001"]They go through the trouble of making the word-mark imply sun rays, and then they slap a devil ray on the arm.[/quote]

    That’s always bothered me as well.

    It’s a thoroughly half-assed rebranding, trying to have it both ways.[/quote]

    im pretty sure we covered this back when the new logo/unis were announced, and i agree with both you guys…they ARE trying to have it both ways (‘sun rays’ & ‘devil rays’=rays=WTF)…and imho not succeeding at either…either ditch the devil ray patch or keep the name devil rays…the sunburst looks like shit (better than the original rainbow logo but not nearly as sweet as the green & white of the past few years)

  • James Craven | April 3, 2008 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment="247012"]“It’s America’s favorite game, Name That Molina!”[/quote]

    And now, here’s your host, Steve berthiume!

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | April 3, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment="246969"]DAMMIT PHIL!!![/quote]

    All posts should now begin with the phrase “DAMMIT PHIL!!!” when the poster wants to be instantly noticed.

    :)

  • Kevin M. | April 3, 2008 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment="247029"][quote comment="247027"][quote comment="246972"]The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.[/quote]

    Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

    On another note…
    Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…[/quote]

    HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.[/quote]

    Have you ever been to the Trop or are you just going by what the talking heads at ESPN say about it? The Trop has to be one of the best places I have ever watched a game. Without it most games the Devil Rays would have a ton of rain outs, not to mention the damn humidity and mosquitos, gnats, and no-seeums. Sitting inside at a nice cool 72 degrees and watching it storm like the end of the world is the best. Yea the catwalks are there but very rarely come into play. I am still pissed they got rid of the green and white but I think the reason Sternberg kept the Devil Ray was to not totally piss everyone off as soon as he changed the color.

  • Garbonzo Bean | April 3, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment="247031"][quote comment="247012"]“It’s America’s favorite game, Name That Molina!”[/quote]

    And now, here’s your host, Steve berthiume![/quote]

    i think that pompas ass Max Kellerman would be a good host, or the other pompass ass that replaced him on around the horn

  • JackDevine | April 3, 2008 at 10:54 am |

    Not uni-related, but it fits in with merchandising and logo creep: are the Twins going to be calling their new stadium LOL Field?

  • James Craven | April 3, 2008 at 11:01 am |

    You’ve never watch Baseball Tonight when Berthiume’s on, haven’t you, Garbanzo Bean?

  • ryan c #40 | April 3, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    The problem is you have to buy three bags of M&Ms minimum at $12.99 each. Which puts the kibosh on my idea for the all-AL East M&M dispenser…

    hmmm… raises a question… if you put all the NL teams in a bowl, do the pirates m&m’s instantly filter to the bottom???

  • Garbonzo Bean | April 3, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment="247036"][quote comment="247029"][quote comment="247027"][quote comment="246972"]The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.[/quote]

    Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

    On another note…
    Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…[/quote]

    HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.[/quote]

    Have you ever been to the Trop or are you just going by what the talking heads at ESPN say about it? The Trop has to be one of the best places I have ever watched a game. Without it most games the Devil Rays would have a ton of rain outs, not to mention the damn humidity and mosquitos, gnats, and no-seeums. Sitting inside at a nice cool 72 degrees and watching it storm like the end of the world is the best. Yea the catwalks are there but very rarely come into play. I am still pissed they got rid of the green and white but I think the reason Sternberg kept the Devil Ray was to not totally piss everyone off as soon as he changed the color.[/quote]

    Sadly no, I have never been to the FLORIDA SUNCOAST DOME…thought it was a bad idea back when they broke ground and still think it sucks. And no, i dont listen to the morons on ESPN…stopped watching BBTN about 8 years ago when Karl RAV-Bitch and that idiot Brian Kenny were hosting it…The only info i know about the SUNCOAST DUMP is when i see the Yankees play there 8 times a year b/c the games are the only games we see here in JAX, FL due to state and local rights…

    for all of you out there, per DIRECTV and MLB JACKSONVILLE is 1) Deviled Egg Territory and then 2) MARLINS territory and if all else fails then comes 3) Atlanta… hate to tell those idiots, Jax is BRAVES Territory!

  • Howard | April 3, 2008 at 11:08 am |

    A few years back (I think 2005) when Bengie and Jose were both with the Angels, the Red Sox had the Molina Triple Play. They ended a 3-game series with the Angels in which Bengie caught the second game and Jose the third game. Then they started an interleage series with the Cardinals and Yadier caught.

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment="247032"][quote comment="246969"]DAMMIT PHIL!!![/quote]

    All posts should now begin with the phrase “DAMMIT PHIL!!!” when the poster wants to be instantly noticed.

    :)[/quote]

    i get that a lot a work…not coincidentally when im on UW…

    not usually in a good way either

  • Garbonzo Bean | April 3, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment="247043"]You’ve never watch Baseball Tonight when Berthiume’s on, haven’t you, Garbanzo Bean?[/quote]

    Just googled this Steve berthiume person and no idea whom you are talking about…though like i said i havent watched BBTN in years…

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    [quote]if you put all the NL teams in a bowl, do the pirates m&m’s instantly filter to the bottom???[/quote]

    and do they make you horny?

  • James Craven | April 3, 2008 at 11:10 am |

    LOL BTW is “Land O’Lakes” as in the butter.

    Although if the team plays lousy, “Laugh Out Loud” will be the unofficial name.

  • James Craven | April 3, 2008 at 11:14 am |

    Okay, Garbanzo, when Berthiume is on, he occasionally calls out “It’s America’s favorite game, ‘Name That Molina!'”

    Oh, he ripped off Rich Eisen’s “Say hello to my little friend” line from Scarface, which led Eisen to go to NFL Network, which no one watches.

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    [quote]he ripped off Rich Eisen’s “Say hello to my little friend” line from Scarface, which led Eisen to go to NFL Network[/quote]

    yeah…that’s why

  • mike | April 3, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    “If the M&M’s “m” logo doesn’t have a trademark annotation, why should the MLB logos?”

    M&M’s don’t need to put a trademark notice on their own trademark, because they’re not using it under license from someone else. When M&M starts using someone else’s trademarks on their product, they have to indicate that its used under license.

    I remember this discussion coming up a while back regarding the Cubs logo and why it was the only MLB logo that had a trademark notice – IIRC it was because the Cubs were using the logo under license from someone else (Chicago Athletic Club?) while every other MLB club was using their own trademarks.

    Whenever you see the circle-R, it means that the person or company using the trademark isn’t the owner. Nothing more complex than that.

  • Garbonzo Bean | April 3, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment="247055"]Okay, Garbanzo, when Berthiume is on, he occasionally calls out “It’s America’s favorite game, ‘Name That Molina!'”

    Oh, he ripped off Rich Eisen’s “Say hello to my little friend” line from Scarface, which led Eisen to go to NFL Network, which no one watches.[/quote]

    People call me Bonzi…just to let you know…I had no idea, dont want sportcenter either…When did Olberman leave? That was the last time i thought SC was watchable…whatever…never heard of him…though i see he is married to cindy brunson.

  • Jason | April 3, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment="247007"][quote comment="247003"]It’s hard to see, but the Indians’ NOB drop shadow is now gone (although the outlining is still there).

    I don’t think that the home white’s and now-defunct vest were had drop shadows, it was only the blue alternate.[/quote]

    The home whites did indeed have the drop shadow.[/quote]

    I spent an inning of Monday’s game looking at the game worn jerseys in the Indians Team Shop Monday, they have a drop shadow which I now miss. The outline looks terrible because the Os, Bs, Ps, and Rs are filled in.

    The White Sox black alts have the same problem.

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | April 3, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment="247053"][quote]if you put all the NL teams in a bowl, do the pirates m&m’s instantly filter to the bottom???[/quote]

    and do they make you horny?[/quote]

    Only the green Oakland A’s M&Ms will do that for you.

  • lwiedy | April 3, 2008 at 11:20 am |

    Nice look at the Jints bling. Personally, wouldn’t mind a few blue stones for some contrast, but it beats the hell out of there previous two efforts.

    In a related matter, I thought I could perhaps share this (just got it a couple of weeks ago).

  • W | April 3, 2008 at 11:21 am |

    why do the Rays’ uniforms still have the little fish-ray on the sleeve? i thought they’d abandoned the aquatic lifeform in favor of a sunburst-ray.

  • who cares | April 3, 2008 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment="247049"][quote comment="247036"][quote comment="247029"][quote comment="247027"][quote comment="246972"]The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.[/quote]

    I grew up near Jax and supported the Marlins to be contrarian. And I disagree about outside baseball in Florida. I regularly caught games at McKethan Stadium in Gainesville for years and now enjoy the occasional series at Sam Bailey Field in Tampa. Both outside venues and both well worth the threat of a summer thundershower, a little sweat, and a mosquito bite here and there.

    Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

    On another note…
    Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…[/quote]

    HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.[/quote]

    Have you ever been to the Trop or are you just going by what the talking heads at ESPN say about it? The Trop has to be one of the best places I have ever watched a game. Without it most games the Devil Rays would have a ton of rain outs, not to mention the damn humidity and mosquitos, gnats, and no-seeums. Sitting inside at a nice cool 72 degrees and watching it storm like the end of the world is the best. Yea the catwalks are there but very rarely come into play. I am still pissed they got rid of the green and white but I think the reason Sternberg kept the Devil Ray was to not totally piss everyone off as soon as he changed the color.[/quote]

    Sadly no, I have never been to the FLORIDA SUNCOAST DOME…thought it was a bad idea back when they broke ground and still think it sucks. And no, i dont listen to the morons on ESPN…stopped watching BBTN about 8 years ago when Karl RAV-Bitch and that idiot Brian Kenny were hosting it…The only info i know about the SUNCOAST DUMP is when i see the Yankees play there 8 times a year b/c the games are the only games we see here in JAX, FL due to state and local rights…

    for all of you out there, per DIRECTV and MLB JACKSONVILLE is 1) Deviled Egg Territory and then 2) MARLINS territory and if all else fails then comes 3) Atlanta… hate to tell those idiots, Jax is BRAVES Territory![/quote]

  • W | April 3, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    oh other persons have already inquired. i apologize.

  • Mike Edgerly | April 3, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment="247049"][quote comment="247036"][quote comment="247029"][quote comment="247027"][quote comment="246972"]The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.[/quote]

    Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

    On another note…
    Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…[/quote]

    HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.[/quote]

    Have you ever been to the Trop or are you just going by what the talking heads at ESPN say about it? The Trop has to be one of the best places I have ever watched a game. Without it most games the Devil Rays would have a ton of rain outs, not to mention the damn humidity and mosquitos, gnats, and no-seeums. Sitting inside at a nice cool 72 degrees and watching it storm like the end of the world is the best. Yea the catwalks are there but very rarely come into play. I am still pissed they got rid of the green and white but I think the reason Sternberg kept the Devil Ray was to not totally piss everyone off as soon as he changed the color.[/quote]

    Sadly no, I have never been to the FLORIDA SUNCOAST DOME…thought it was a bad idea back when they broke ground and still think it sucks. And no, i dont listen to the morons on ESPN…stopped watching BBTN about 8 years ago when Karl RAV-Bitch and that idiot Brian Kenny were hosting it…The only info i know about the SUNCOAST DUMP is when i see the Yankees play there 8 times a year b/c the games are the only games we see here in JAX, FL due to state and local rights…

    for all of you out there, per DIRECTV and MLB JACKSONVILLE is 1) Deviled Egg Territory and then 2) MARLINS territory and if all else fails then comes 3) Atlanta… hate to tell those idiots, Jax is BRAVES Territory![/quote]
    Are you talking about watching the Yanks live? or on Direct TV, I’m confused… If you want to see them live at the Trop, they’re there more than 8 times a year I’m sure. Also, it’s not like the Yanks are never on National TV, also you can get the games on the Web.

    I have to second Kevin M’s notion that the Trop is a great place to watch a game. To hear the so-called “pundits” talk about it, it’s a dump that ruins the eyes. I will be happy to suffer this lack of “aesthetics” for not sitting in humid 85 degree weather on a July night to watch a game. If and when they build the new waste-of-money joint on the St. Pete waterfront, people will fondly remember the Trop after they’s sweated through a shirt or two.

  • lwiedy | April 3, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment="247064"][quote comment="247053"][quote]if you put all the NL teams in a bowl, do the pirates m&m’s instantly filter to the bottom???[/quote]

    and do they make you horny?[/quote]

    Only the green Oakland A’s M&Ms will do that for you.[/quote]

    Van Halen would hate the Padres throwback M&M.

  • Gary | April 3, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    I still own one of those Mets “Ice Cream” caps. I know I’m in the majority, but I still love it. At least it was in Mets colors, and not black. I just need to find a place that will dry clean it, because it is FILTHY.

  • Brandon Davis | April 3, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    As for the Mets’ missing velcro, I think it’s a CoolBase thing as well. I have two A’s game worn CoolBase jerseys, an alt from ’06 and a home from ’07, and they do not have the velcro patch sewn in.

  • Dusty | April 3, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    That third base coaching box was definitely not like that on Monday when i was at the game. It stopped even with third base where you can see its been erased. Its not like coaches stay in the boxes anyway, but I’ll be at today’s game and will have to check that out.

  • I care you bastard | April 3, 2008 at 11:29 am |

    Jacksonville has an NFL Team, that is who cares you schmuck.

    And i think what you guys are saying about the SUNCOAST Dome is true. Who wants to be in the humidity and all that crap. Saw a Marlins AFTERNOON game in Joe Robbie…(that is its name) in 1995 and sh*t if i didnt have to buy a new shirt for the ride home

  • Sports Tsar | April 3, 2008 at 11:29 am |

    when i clicked that marineros link up above, i was definitely expecting to see something from the NBA crop of “latino” jerseys this year – los bobcats perhaps…

    George
    http://sportstsar.co...

  • James Craven | April 3, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment="247071"]“Van Halen would hate the Padres throwback M&M.”[/quote]

    The question here is: “Which version of Van Halen. The David Lee Roth version or the Sammy Hagar version?” Answers on a postcard, please.

  • Tim Abel | April 3, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment="246949"]people still do the wave?[/quote]

    unfortunately, yes. resulting in an instant loss of sports fan credibility.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | April 3, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    Anybody notice this from Mike Cooperman’s insight…

    “While I had to stare at the back of that cap the entire game, at least I could look to my left and admire the classic kicks of the guy sitting next to me.”

    CLASSIC!? I think not…The Air Jordan Spiz’ike is a Frankenstein creation. It’s the pieces of many classic Air Jordan’s spliced into one. A few years back the AJ Dub Zero wreaked havoc across the country too. Sorry, as devout Sneaker head it’s not my cup of tea.

  • lwiedy | April 3, 2008 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment="247078"][quote comment="247071"]“Van Halen would hate the Padres throwback M&M.”[/quote]

    The question here is: “Which version of Van Halen. The David Lee Roth version or the Sammy Hagar version?” Answers on a postcard, please.[/quote]

    It started with in the DLR era. I don’t how much they grew up when “The Red Rocker” arrived.

  • T.J. | April 3, 2008 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment="247007"][quote comment="247003"]It’s hard to see, but the Indians’ NOB drop shadow is now gone (although the outlining is still there).

    I don’t think that the home white’s and now-defunct vest were had drop shadows, it was only the blue alternate.[/quote]

    The home whites did indeed have the drop shadow.[/quote]

    All Indians unis had red letters with an outline and a shadow. On the navy blue jerseys, the outline happened to be blue, so the silver shadow didn’t appear to be directly attached to the letter. The current scheme has removed silver, seeming to replace it with white in most places… which is barely noticeable except where they changed the design.

    My opinion: two outlines is too much. I didn’t care for outline + shadow all that much, but double outline just doesn’t do anything for me.

  • MPowers1634 | April 3, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment="247071"][quote comment="247064"][quote comment="247053"][quote]if you put all the NL teams in a bowl, do the pirates m&m’s instantly filter to the bottom???[/quote]

    and do they make you horny?[/quote]

    Only the green Oakland A’s M&Ms will do that for you.[/quote]

    Van Halen would hate the Padres throwback M&M.[/quote]

    I tried googling m&m’s to do further research and check out the page that pops up. The dude on the right looks to be straight out of the “Temple of Doom”.

  • Costa | April 3, 2008 at 11:48 am |

    I’ve been reading the blog posts for a while now but haven’t paid much attention to the comment threads, so I apologize if it’s frowned upon to discuss a uniform topic that has nothing at all to do with the main post or current events, but here goes…

    I was looking at an old Dallas Cowboys poster I got in the early 90’s with Troy Aikman and Emmitt Smith on it when I noticed that they both had two white stripes on their socks, similar to the ones on their 1960’s throwbacks. Since most of the pictures I can find of both Aikman and Smith on Google have them with solid blues, as is the current system, it appears to have been a change midway through their tenure. Here are some pics:

    Striped triplets
    Solid blue triplets
    Nowadays
    Little note: In the striped pic, the sock stripes on the linemen are much larger than the ones on the skill players. Anybody here remember any stories or discussions on this change? I know the general consensus around these parts is that striped >>>> solid. I looked back at Paul’s ESPN article on the Cowboys uni quirks and there’s no mention of the sock change (which makes sense since a change doesn’t qualify as a quirk)

    Anyway, just thought I’d throw that on here. Carry on.

  • chance | April 3, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment="247083"][quote comment="247007"][quote comment="247003"]It’s hard to see, but the Indians’ NOB drop shadow is now gone (although the outlining is still there).

    I don’t think that the home white’s and now-defunct vest were had drop shadows, it was only the blue alternate.[/quote]

    The home whites did indeed have the drop shadow.[/quote]

    All Indians unis had red letters with an outline and a shadow. On the navy blue jerseys, the outline happened to be blue, so the silver shadow didn’t appear to be directly attached to the letter. The current scheme has removed silver, seeming to replace it with white in most places… which is barely noticeable except where they changed the design.

    My opinion: two outlines is too much. I didn’t care for outline + shadow all that much, but double outline just doesn’t do anything for me.[/quote]

    I agree. The Indians used to have a really sharp, classic uniform. Red outlined in white. Then they started adding extra outlines and dropshadows, and they just spoiled the look.

    Dropping silver was a good start, but replacing it with white only prolongs the problem. It doesn’t fix it.

  • MPowers1634 | April 3, 2008 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment="247080"]Anybody notice this from Mike Cooperman’s insight…

    “While I had to stare at the back of that cap the entire game, at least I could look to my left and admire the classic kicks of the guy sitting next to me.”

    CLASSIC!? I think not…The Air Jordan Spiz’ike is a Frankenstein creation. It’s the pieces of many classic Air Jordan’s spliced into one. A few years back the AJ Dub Zero wreaked havoc across the country too. Sorry, as devout Sneaker head it’s not my cup of tea.[/quote]

    PBP, check out posts 37, 40, 53 and 54. You are not alone!

  • Jerico | April 3, 2008 at 11:54 am |

    Re: Battle of the “stylized B’s”

    No f@#$ing chance. They’re honoring the Dodgers’ 50 years in Los Angeles, not Brooklyn.

  • PaulG | April 3, 2008 at 11:57 am |

    This is a little off topic, but for you Cubs fans, it just so happens that Google’s Street View option captures Cub Manager Lou Piniella walking to his car on Clark Street on a non-game day. I wonder what the odds of this are.

  • Duckstyle | April 3, 2008 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment="247070"][quote comment="247049"][quote comment="247036"][quote comment="247029"][quote comment="247027"][quote comment="246972"]The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.[/quote]

    Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

    On another note…
    Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…[/quote]

    HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.[/quote]

    Have you ever been to the Trop or are you just going by what the talking heads at ESPN say about it? The Trop has to be one of the best places I have ever watched a game. Without it most games the Devil Rays would have a ton of rain outs, not to mention the damn humidity and mosquitos, gnats, and no-seeums. Sitting inside at a nice cool 72 degrees and watching it storm like the end of the world is the best. Yea the catwalks are there but very rarely come into play. I am still pissed they got rid of the green and white but I think the reason Sternberg kept the Devil Ray was to not totally piss everyone off as soon as he changed the color.[/quote]

    Sadly no, I have never been to the FLORIDA SUNCOAST DOME…thought it was a bad idea back when they broke ground and still think it sucks. And no, i dont listen to the morons on ESPN…stopped watching BBTN about 8 years ago when Karl RAV-Bitch and that idiot Brian Kenny were hosting it…The only info i know about the SUNCOAST DUMP is when i see the Yankees play there 8 times a year b/c the games are the only games we see here in JAX, FL due to state and local rights…

    for all of you out there, per DIRECTV and MLB JACKSONVILLE is 1) Deviled Egg Territory and then 2) MARLINS territory and if all else fails then comes 3) Atlanta… hate to tell those idiots, Jax is BRAVES Territory![/quote]
    Are you talking about watching the Yanks live? or on Direct TV, I’m confused… If you want to see them live at the Trop, they’re there more than 8 times a year I’m sure. Also, it’s not like the Yanks are never on National TV, also you can get the games on the Web.

    I have to second Kevin M’s notion that the Trop is a great place to watch a game. To hear the so-called “pundits” talk about it, it’s a dump that ruins the eyes. I will be happy to suffer this lack of “aesthetics” for not sitting in humid 85 degree weather on a July night to watch a game. If and when they build the new waste-of-money joint on the St. Pete waterfront, people will fondly remember the Trop after they’s sweated through a shirt or two.[/quote]

    All I know is I hate domes in general, it’s just too damn sterile an environment to play any sport outside of basketball. And that place just looks tiny, and weird on TV; not to mention how it makes every game look like its overcast and sad(I’m not sure how to explain this better). Btw, sweating thru a shirt happens at almost every major league park in the summer. Average game at US Cellualr field or Wrigley Field in the summer is about 88 degrees and 90% humidity. Deal with it, sweating to death is part of the fun. As long as that new stadium, that looks like the Space Shuttle, can stop the rain, I’m all for it. Of course that comes froma guy that will probably never take in a game there.

  • MPowers1634 | April 3, 2008 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment="247090"]This is a little off topic, but for you Cubs fans, it just so happens that Google’s Street View option captures Cub Manager Lou Piniella walking to his car on Clark Street on a non-game day. I wonder what the odds of this are.[/quote]

    I guarantee, that half of UW is now typing in the addresses of every stadium, arena, rink etc at this very moment.

  • Kevin M. | April 3, 2008 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment="247091"][quote comment="247070"][quote comment="247049"][quote comment="247036"][quote comment="247029"][quote comment="247027"][quote comment="246972"]The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.[/quote]

    Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

    On another note…
    Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…[/quote]

    HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.[/quote]

    Have you ever been to the Trop or are you just going by what the talking heads at ESPN say about it? The Trop has to be one of the best places I have ever watched a game. Without it most games the Devil Rays would have a ton of rain outs, not to mention the damn humidity and mosquitos, gnats, and no-seeums. Sitting inside at a nice cool 72 degrees and watching it storm like the end of the world is the best. Yea the catwalks are there but very rarely come into play. I am still pissed they got rid of the green and white but I think the reason Sternberg kept the Devil Ray was to not totally piss everyone off as soon as he changed the color.[/quote]

    Sadly no, I have never been to the FLORIDA SUNCOAST DOME…thought it was a bad idea back when they broke ground and still think it sucks. And no, i dont listen to the morons on ESPN…stopped watching BBTN about 8 years ago when Karl RAV-Bitch and that idiot Brian Kenny were hosting it…The only info i know about the SUNCOAST DUMP is when i see the Yankees play there 8 times a year b/c the games are the only games we see here in JAX, FL due to state and local rights…

    for all of you out there, per DIRECTV and MLB JACKSONVILLE is 1) Deviled Egg Territory and then 2) MARLINS territory and if all else fails then comes 3) Atlanta… hate to tell those idiots, Jax is BRAVES Territory![/quote]
    Are you talking about watching the Yanks live? or on Direct TV, I’m confused… If you want to see them live at the Trop, they’re there more than 8 times a year I’m sure. Also, it’s not like the Yanks are never on National TV, also you can get the games on the Web.

    I have to second Kevin M’s notion that the Trop is a great place to watch a game. To hear the so-called “pundits” talk about it, it’s a dump that ruins the eyes. I will be happy to suffer this lack of “aesthetics” for not sitting in humid 85 degree weather on a July night to watch a game. If and when they build the new waste-of-money joint on the St. Pete waterfront, people will fondly remember the Trop after they’s sweated through a shirt or two.[/quote]

    All I know is I hate domes in general, it’s just too damn sterile an environment to play any sport outside of basketball. And that place just looks tiny, and weird on TV; not to mention how it makes every game look like its overcast and sad(I’m not sure how to explain this better). Btw, sweating thru a shirt happens at almost every major league park in the summer. Average game at US Cellualr field or Wrigley Field in the summer is about 88 degrees and 90% humidity. Deal with it, sweating to death is part of the fun. As long as that new stadium, that looks like the Space Shuttle, can stop the rain, I’m all for it. Of course that comes froma guy that will probably never take in a game there.[/quote]

    88 and 90% humidity is a hell of a lot different than 96 and 99% humidity. The Trop is actuall bigger than a lot of fields including Turner Field. It is a welcome break trust me.

  • Jerico | April 3, 2008 at 12:02 pm |

    sorry about the hyperlink.

  • lwiedy | April 3, 2008 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment="247091"][quote comment="247070"][quote comment="247049"][quote comment="247036"][quote comment="247029"][quote comment="247027"][quote comment="246972"]The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.[/quote]

    Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

    On another note…
    Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…[/quote]

    HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.[/quote]

    Have you ever been to the Trop or are you just going by what the talking heads at ESPN say about it? The Trop has to be one of the best places I have ever watched a game. Without it most games the Devil Rays would have a ton of rain outs, not to mention the damn humidity and mosquitos, gnats, and no-seeums. Sitting inside at a nice cool 72 degrees and watching it storm like the end of the world is the best. Yea the catwalks are there but very rarely come into play. I am still pissed they got rid of the green and white but I think the reason Sternberg kept the Devil Ray was to not totally piss everyone off as soon as he changed the color.[/quote]

    Sadly no, I have never been to the FLORIDA SUNCOAST DOME…thought it was a bad idea back when they broke ground and still think it sucks. And no, i dont listen to the morons on ESPN…stopped watching BBTN about 8 years ago when Karl RAV-Bitch and that idiot Brian Kenny were hosting it…The only info i know about the SUNCOAST DUMP is when i see the Yankees play there 8 times a year b/c the games are the only games we see here in JAX, FL due to state and local rights…

    for all of you out there, per DIRECTV and MLB JACKSONVILLE is 1) Deviled Egg Territory and then 2) MARLINS territory and if all else fails then comes 3) Atlanta… hate to tell those idiots, Jax is BRAVES Territory![/quote]
    Are you talking about watching the Yanks live? or on Direct TV, I’m confused… If you want to see them live at the Trop, they’re there more than 8 times a year I’m sure. Also, it’s not like the Yanks are never on National TV, also you can get the games on the Web.

    I have to second Kevin M’s notion that the Trop is a great place to watch a game. To hear the so-called “pundits” talk about it, it’s a dump that ruins the eyes. I will be happy to suffer this lack of “aesthetics” for not sitting in humid 85 degree weather on a July night to watch a game. If and when they build the new waste-of-money joint on the St. Pete waterfront, people will fondly remember the Trop after they’s sweated through a shirt or two.[/quote]

    All I know is I hate domes in general, it’s just too damn sterile an environment to play any sport outside of basketball. And that place just looks tiny, and weird on TV; not to mention how it makes every game look like its overcast and sad(I’m not sure how to explain this better). Btw, sweating thru a shirt happens at almost every major league park in the summer. Average game at US Cellualr field or Wrigley Field in the summer is about 88 degrees and 90% humidity. Deal with it, sweating to death is part of the fun. As long as that new stadium, that looks like the Space Shuttle, can stop the rain, I’m all for it. Of course that comes froma guy that will probably never take in a game there.[/quote]

    Not at 10 pm, which it is here (Florida). For some people, excessive heat is a health concern and welcome not worrying about the climate.

  • chance | April 3, 2008 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment="247090"]This is a little off topic, but for you Cubs fans, it just so happens that Google’s Street View option captures Cub Manager Lou Piniella walking to his car on Clark Street on a non-game day. I wonder what the odds of this are.[/quote]

    Very, very cool. Thanks!

  • Zac Neubauer | April 3, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    The White Sox radio team mistakingly referred to the Indians opening day jerseys as 1954 throwbacks again last night. Some time around the fifth inning. Steve Stone even got all sentimental and talked about his childhood in Cleveland and the ’54 team. Needless to say I was yelling at my radio. Being a tribe fan in Chicago is hard enough without listening to announcers who don’t Get It.

  • Duckstyle | April 3, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment="247100"]The White Sox radio team mistakingly referred to the Indians opening day jerseys as 1954 throwbacks again last night. Some time around the fifth inning. Steve Stone even got all sentimental and talked about his childhood in Cleveland and the ’54 team. Needless to say I was yelling at my radio. Being a tribe fan in Chicago is hard enough without listening to announcers who don’t Get It.[/quote]

    LOL, email him thru the Score, they’re pretty good abotu checking mistakes.

  • I care you bastard | April 3, 2008 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment="247099"][quote comment="247090"]This is a little off topic, but for you Cubs fans, it just so happens that Google’s Street View option captures Cub Manager Lou Piniella walking to his car on Clark Street on a non-game day. I wonder what the odds of this are.[/quote]

    Very, very cool. Thanks![/quote]

    Is that real? Can Google actually do this or is this a late april fool?

  • Duckstyle | April 3, 2008 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment="247093"][quote comment="247091"][quote comment="247070"][quote comment="247049"][quote comment="247036"][quote comment="247029"][quote comment="247027"][quote comment="246972"]The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.[/quote]

    Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

    On another note…
    Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…[/quote]

    HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.[/quote]

    Have you ever been to the Trop or are you just going by what the talking heads at ESPN say about it? The Trop has to be one of the best places I have ever watched a game. Without it most games the Devil Rays would have a ton of rain outs, not to mention the damn humidity and mosquitos, gnats, and no-seeums. Sitting inside at a nice cool 72 degrees and watching it storm like the end of the world is the best. Yea the catwalks are there but very rarely come into play. I am still pissed they got rid of the green and white but I think the reason Sternberg kept the Devil Ray was to not totally piss everyone off as soon as he changed the color.[/quote]

    Sadly no, I have never been to the FLORIDA SUNCOAST DOME…thought it was a bad idea back when they broke ground and still think it sucks. And no, i dont listen to the morons on ESPN…stopped watching BBTN about 8 years ago when Karl RAV-Bitch and that idiot Brian Kenny were hosting it…The only info i know about the SUNCOAST DUMP is when i see the Yankees play there 8 times a year b/c the games are the only games we see here in JAX, FL due to state and local rights…

    for all of you out there, per DIRECTV and MLB JACKSONVILLE is 1) Deviled Egg Territory and then 2) MARLINS territory and if all else fails then comes 3) Atlanta… hate to tell those idiots, Jax is BRAVES Territory![/quote]
    Are you talking about watching the Yanks live? or on Direct TV, I’m confused… If you want to see them live at the Trop, they’re there more than 8 times a year I’m sure. Also, it’s not like the Yanks are never on National TV, also you can get the games on the Web.

    I have to second Kevin M’s notion that the Trop is a great place to watch a game. To hear the so-called “pundits” talk about it, it’s a dump that ruins the eyes. I will be happy to suffer this lack of “aesthetics” for not sitting in humid 85 degree weather on a July night to watch a game. If and when they build the new waste-of-money joint on the St. Pete waterfront, people will fondly remember the Trop after they’s sweated through a shirt or two.[/quote]

    All I know is I hate domes in general, it’s just too damn sterile an environment to play any sport outside of basketball. And that place just looks tiny, and weird on TV; not to mention how it makes every game look like its overcast and sad(I’m not sure how to explain this better). Btw, sweating thru a shirt happens at almost every major league park in the summer. Average game at US Cellualr field or Wrigley Field in the summer is about 88 degrees and 90% humidity. Deal with it, sweating to death is part of the fun. As long as that new stadium, that looks like the Space Shuttle, can stop the rain, I’m all for it. Of course that comes froma guy that will probably never take in a game there.[/quote]

    88 and 90% humidity is a hell of a lot different than 96 and 99% humidity. The Trop is actuall bigger than a lot of fields including Turner Field. It is a welcome break trust me.[/quote]

    I personally don’t think there’s is much of a difference, I live in Rockford,IL which is around 95% most of the summer, it sucks but you deal with it. Granted we don’t the temp is abotu 10 degree less though. But, I can understand that given the large number of retirees in your area it probably does make sense to keep them in the cool air, so far enough. But, I guess I didn’t specify what I menat when I said small, it’s more that closed in feeling that low roof gives off, but I’m a bit claustrophobic, so I’m sure that factors in for me. I dunno, I guess I just like real grass and sun. Damn those old uni’s were nice, I even liked the sleaveless version.

  • who cares | April 3, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment="247097"][quote comment="247091"][quote comment="247070"][quote comment="247049"][quote comment="247036"][quote comment="247029"][quote comment="247027"][quote comment="246972"]The Manta Ray is still a secondary logo in the TB. And until they stop playing like hell they’ll always be the Devil Rays to me.[/quote]

    Uh, until this team actually finishes a year near .500 (78-84),actually contends for a playoff berth and or moves out of Tropicana Field Garage, the Tampa Bay Devil Rays Daviled Eggs are there name…Not Rays, or Devil Rays or anything else…

    On another note…
    Nice to see 21 on the mound in the cathedral last night…[/quote]

    HAppy to see the stupid f*cking strikethru worked here.[/quote]

    Have you ever been to the Trop or are you just going by what the talking heads at ESPN say about it? The Trop has to be one of the best places I have ever watched a game. Without it most games the Devil Rays would have a ton of rain outs, not to mention the damn humidity and mosquitos, gnats, and no-seeums. Sitting inside at a nice cool 72 degrees and watching it storm like the end of the world is the best. Yea the catwalks are there but very rarely come into play. I am still pissed they got rid of the green and white but I think the reason Sternberg kept the Devil Ray was to not totally piss everyone off as soon as he changed the color.[/quote]

    Sadly no, I have never been to the FLORIDA SUNCOAST DOME…thought it was a bad idea back when they broke ground and still think it sucks. And no, i dont listen to the morons on ESPN…stopped watching BBTN about 8 years ago when Karl RAV-Bitch and that idiot Brian Kenny were hosting it…The only info i know about the SUNCOAST DUMP is when i see the Yankees play there 8 times a year b/c the games are the only games we see here in JAX, FL due to state and local rights…

    for all of you out there, per DIRECTV and MLB JACKSONVILLE is 1) Deviled Egg Territory and then 2) MARLINS territory and if all else fails then comes 3) Atlanta… hate to tell those idiots, Jax is BRAVES Territory![/quote]
    Are you talking about watching the Yanks live? or on Direct TV, I’m confused… If you want to see them live at the Trop, they’re there more than 8 times a year I’m sure. Also, it’s not like the Yanks are never on National TV, also you can get the games on the Web.

    I have to second Kevin M’s notion that the Trop is a great place to watch a game. To hear the so-called “pundits” talk about it, it’s a dump that ruins the eyes. I will be happy to suffer this lack of “aesthetics” for not sitting in humid 85 degree weather on a July night to watch a game. If and when they build the new waste-of-money joint on the St. Pete waterfront, people will fondly remember the Trop after they’s sweated through a shirt or two.[/quote]

    All I know is I hate domes in general, it’s just too damn sterile an environment to play any sport outside of basketball. And that place just looks tiny, and weird on TV; not to mention how it makes every game look like its overcast and sad(I’m not sure how to explain this better). Btw, sweating thru a shirt happens at almost every major league park in the summer. Average game at US Cellualr field or Wrigley Field in the summer is about 88 degrees and 90% humidity. Deal with it, sweating to death is part of the fun. As long as that new stadium, that looks like the Space Shuttle, can stop the rain, I’m all for it. Of course that comes froma guy that will probably never take in a game there.[/quote]

    Not at 10 pm, which it is here (Florida). For some people, excessive heat is a health concern and welcome not worrying about the climate.[/quote]

    I’ve caught plenty of day games at McKethan stadium in Gainesville and Sam Bailey field in Tampa. Both are outside and both are awesome. If you can’t take the heat and mosquitos, why not move back up North? It’s like telling the Packers they need to build a dome.

  • MPowers1634 | April 3, 2008 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment="247104"][quote comment="247099"][quote comment="247090"]This is a little off topic, but for you Cubs fans, it just so happens that Google’s Street View option captures Cub Manager Lou Piniella walking to his car on Clark Street on a non-game day. I wonder what the odds of this are.[/quote]

    Very, very cool. Thanks![/quote]

    Is that real? Can Google actually do this or is this a late april fool?[/quote]

    It absolutely is. Before I went to the Pre Super Bowl UW Party in Park Slope, I used it and it gave me a snapshot of the actual intersection where the bar was. i would have never found it otherwise.

    When this feature, along with Google Earth, were first available, my students absolutely LOVED it.
    One very cheeky lad tried to find a nude beach one of his friends had told him about. Luckily for all involved, him included, it remained unfound.

    I would love to check the address of MSG and see a certain coach walking out with his belongings in a moving box!

  • Zac Neubauer | April 3, 2008 at 12:36 pm |

    Maybe I’m slow, but I can’t for the life of me find an e-mail to contact the White Sox radio team.

  • Adam | April 3, 2008 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment="247111"]Maybe I’m slow, but I can’t for the life of me find an e-mail to contact the White Sox radio team.[/quote]

    I can’t find a direct link, but maybe if you contact somebody at the station, they can help you? http://www.670thesco...

  • MPowers1634 | April 3, 2008 at 12:43 pm |

    This might be old news, but has anyone seen the logo for the Men’s Wearhouse Tuxedo Shop?

    Very clever!

  • Kevin M. | April 3, 2008 at 12:45 pm |

    Last thing on the Trop. When H.Wayne Huizenga blocked the move of the Giants to St.Petersburg in the early 90’s his man reason was that no team in Florida needed a dome. Now som 15 years later he is fighting with Miami/Dade county to get at least a retractable roof stadium because of all the rainouts they get every year(on average 10+). And there is a huge difference when you add the extra 10 degrees in temp and the extra humidity. And again once inside the Trop it is very nice and roomy. See it for yourself before making blanket statements of how terrible it is.

  • AK | April 3, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment="247090"]This is a little off topic, but for you Cubs fans, it just so happens that Google’s Street View option captures Cub Manager Lou Piniella walking to his car on Clark Street on a non-game day. I wonder what the odds of this are.[/quote]
    Dude can’t even get his on parking spot at the stadium?!? Guess that the Cubs for ya.

  • chance | April 3, 2008 at 12:53 pm |

    Re: Los Marinaros, do you think the visiting Tigers will put “Capitáns” across their jerseys for that game?

    Ba ba bamba, baby….

  • MPowers1634 | April 3, 2008 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment="247084"][quote comment="247071"][quote comment="247064"][quote comment="247053"][quote]if you put all the NL teams in a bowl, do the pirates m&m’s instantly filter to the bottom???[/quote]

    and do they make you horny?[/quote]

    Only the green Oakland A’s M&Ms will do that for you.[/quote]

    Van Halen would hate the Padres throwback M&M.[/quote]

    I tried googling m&m’s to do further research and check out the page that pops up. The dude on the right looks to be straight out of the “Temple of Doom”.[/quote]

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | April 3, 2008 at 1:03 pm |

    [quote comment="247000"][quote comment="246958"][quote comment="246952"]Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.[/quote]
    Anybody notice that if you click on the drop-down box in “Choose your team”, that the Tampa AL franchise is listed as “Tampa Bay Rays”, and the candies feature four logos – one of which is the now defunct “Devil Ray”?
    Or am I not the first one who clicked through and looked at EVERY TEAM? ;-)[/quote]

    The Devil Ray is not defunct as it is still a part of their scheme. It appears on both the home and road jerseys in the form of a patch on the left sleeve.[/quote]
    To quote my man: “that’s not a scheme – it’s a conspiracy”

  • lwiedy | April 3, 2008 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment="247085"]I’ve been reading the blog posts for a while now but haven’t paid much attention to the comment threads, so I apologize if it’s frowned upon to discuss a uniform topic that has nothing at all to do with the main post or current events, but here goes…

    I was looking at an old Dallas Cowboys poster I got in the early 90’s with Troy Aikman and Emmitt Smith on it when I noticed that they both had two white stripes on their socks, similar to the ones on their 1960’s throwbacks. Since most of the pictures I can find of both Aikman and Smith on Google have them with solid blues, as is the current system, it appears to have been a change midway through their tenure. Here are some pics:

    Striped triplets
    Solid blue triplets
    Nowadays
    Little note: In the striped pic, the sock stripes on the linemen are much larger than the ones on the skill players. Anybody here remember any stories or discussions on this change? I know the general consensus around these parts is that striped >>>> solid. I looked back at Paul’s ESPN article on the Cowboys uni quirks and there’s no mention of the sock change (which makes sense since a change doesn’t qualify as a quirk)

    Anyway, just thought I’d throw that on here. Carry on.[/quote]

    Yes, striped is better.

    As for the photos, the first has images from the 1989-1993 era (Russell Athletic jerseys). The second is from SB XXX (1995 season). So they just dropped them sometime around 1994. The linemen could look differently just because they are bigger and this stuff all fits snuggly so it stretches when pulled over a bigger body.

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 1:11 pm |

    has it really been 5 years since florida had a major league franchise

  • jesse | April 3, 2008 at 1:13 pm |

    FYI all, the Phillies are wearing the new “alt/throwback” today against the Nationals in Philadelphia. They look nice.

  • jesse | April 3, 2008 at 1:24 pm |

    update on the Phillies uniform. They are down 5 runs and we are just about to start the bottom of the 1st. Might want to think again about them alt/throwbacks…….

  • Mark in Shiga | April 3, 2008 at 1:25 pm |

    The problem with the Indians’ jerseys until last season was that the dark blue layer formed a drop shadow on the names, but was another border layer on the numbers. It looked really weird. Either have drop shadows, or don’t.

    I love the throwbacks, but like many teams these days, they design their jerseys for the bodies of the huge players. The numbers on the backs look decent enough on the big guys, but are about an inch too far down on the ordinary-sized guys.

  • Cole | April 3, 2008 at 1:28 pm |

    This is also the 50th anniversary of the Giants in the bay area. Would love to see a Giants vs. Dodgers NLCS and relive the glory days.

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote]Either have drop shadows, or don’t.[/quote]

    well, ok then ;)

    [quote comment="247130"]The numbers on the backs look decent enough on the big guys, but are about an inch too far down on the ordinary-sized guys.[/quote]

    isn’t that a first base coach pictured? judging from the flapless bonnet, it must be…he also is wearing his pants at approximately navel level (like my old man), so the appearance is that the #OB is ‘too low’…also with NNOB it looks lower than it truly is

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  • Mark M | April 3, 2008 at 1:42 pm |

    I have to disagree that the wave in the at Saturday’s game was the largest ever. Maybe at a baseball game but not ever.

    Way back when the Indy 500 mattered there was a major wreck on the first lap, leading to a restart about an hour later. Since we were all in our seats and lubricated we amused ourselves. The wave ensued and since the permanent seating at the IMS is about 350k, that is surely the largest wave ever.

  • Duckstyle | April 3, 2008 at 1:50 pm |

    [quote comment="247111"]Maybe I’m slow, but I can’t for the life of me find an e-mail to contact the White Sox radio team.[/quote]

    No, I took me forever to find it once before too. I’d look myself, but the score’s site is blocked here at work. If all else fails, call in to “Who you crappin?” this afternoon on Boers and Burnstein. I’m sure they’d pass it along to Stoney.

  • Bryan S | April 3, 2008 at 1:52 pm |

    I think the deal with the Padres 3rd coaching box has to do with Bowa’s recent suspension. He got into an argument with an ump for leaving the coaching box, and got thrown out of the game, then suspended.

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 3, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    A buddy of mine who lives in L.A. went to the Coliseum game and said it was a blast.

    We were talking about it and I wondered if there was any precedent for an event like this, i.e., team going back to play a game in its old stadium after playing many years in a new one, in the same city.

    We discussed the Yankees going from Yankee Stadium to Shea and back in the 1970s when the former was rebuilt, but that was a very different circumstance. They moved to Shea temporarily out of necessity, the return to Yankee Stadium was permanent (well, not really, but you get my meaning) and in the interim the facility had essentially been completely rebuilt from the outside in.

    The only other example I could think of, also involving the L.A. Coliseum as it turns out, but not involving the same city, was the L.A. Raiders moving back to Oakland in ’95, although that’s also not entirely analogous as, like the Yankees, the move back was essentially permanent and the old facility was extensively remodeled (in this case subsequently). Perhaps a better example would be the exhibition game they played in Oakland against the Oilers in 1989.

    Can anyone think of another example of this type of event?

  • Garbonzo Bean | April 3, 2008 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment="247130"]The problem with the Indians’ jerseys until last season was that the dark blue layer formed a drop shadow on the names, but was another border layer on the numbers. It looked really weird. Either have drop shadows, or don’t.

    I love the throwbacks, but like many teams these days, they design their jerseys for the bodies of the huge players. The numbers on the backs look decent enough on the big guys, but are about an inch too far down on the ordinary-sized guys.[/quote]

    I guess the tribe needs new tailors/designers OR MLB needs to pass out b-12 shots to the average size players to fit the uniforms!

  • Garbonzo Bean | April 3, 2008 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment="247144"]A buddy of mine who lives in L.A. went to the Coliseum game and said it was a blast.

    We were talking about it and I wondered if there was any precedent for an event like this, i.e., team going back to play a game in its old stadium after playing many years in a new one, in the same city.

    We discussed the Yankees going from Yankee Stadium to Shea and back in the 1970s when the former was rebuilt, but that was a very different circumstance. They moved to Shea temporarily out of necessity, the return to Yankee Stadium was permanent (well, not really, but you get my meaning) and in the interim the facility had essentially been completely rebuilt from the outside in.

    The only other example I could think of, also involving the L.A. Coliseum as it turns out, but not involving the same city, was the L.A. Raiders moving back to Oakland in ’95, although that’s also not entirely analogous as, like the Yankees, the move back was essentially permanent and the old facility was extensively remodeled (in this case subsequently). Perhaps a better example would be the exhibition game they played in Oakland against the Oilers in 1989.

    Can anyone think of another example of this type of event?[/quote]

    Didnt the NY FOOTBALL Giants play in Shit, err Shea and the Yale Bowl while Yankee was remade and then on to Gaints Stadium?

  • Marty Met | April 3, 2008 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment="247125"]has it really been 5 years since florida had a major league franchise[/quote]

    and even longer since they’ve had a NFL team

  • Garbonzo Bean | April 3, 2008 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment="247149"][quote comment="247125"]has it really been 5 years since florida had a major league franchise[/quote]

    and even longer since they’ve had a NFL team[/quote]

    What are the Jaguars?

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 3, 2008 at 2:13 pm |

    [quote comment="247146"][quote comment="247144"]A buddy of mine who lives in L.A. went to the Coliseum game and said it was a blast.

    We were talking about it and I wondered if there was any precedent for an event like this, i.e., team going back to play a game in its old stadium after playing many years in a new one, in the same city.

    We discussed the Yankees going from Yankee Stadium to Shea and back in the 1970s when the former was rebuilt, but that was a very different circumstance. They moved to Shea temporarily out of necessity, the return to Yankee Stadium was permanent (well, not really, but you get my meaning) and in the interim the facility had essentially been completely rebuilt from the outside in.

    The only other example I could think of, also involving the L.A. Coliseum as it turns out, but not involving the same city, was the L.A. Raiders moving back to Oakland in ’95, although that’s also not entirely analogous as, like the Yankees, the move back was essentially permanent and the old facility was extensively remodeled (in this case subsequently). Perhaps a better example would be the exhibition game they played in Oakland against the Oilers in 1989.

    Can anyone think of another example of this type of event?[/quote]

    Didnt the NY FOOTBALL Giants play in Shit, err Shea and the Yale Bowl while Yankee was remade and then on to Gaints Stadium?[/quote]

    Yes, they did. They went from the Polo Grounds (1920s-1955) to Yankee Stadium (1956-72) to the Yale Bowl in Connecticut (1973-74) to Shea (1975) to Giants Stadium (1976-present).

  • Philly Bill | April 3, 2008 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment="247006"][quote comment="246952"]Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.[/quote]

    I’m happy there is no black Mets M&Ms[/quote]

    A Uni Watch first – a link to a site my company designed! Thank you all for your volunteer QA efforts…

    And the Phillies bad luck (or ineptitude) continues with alternate uniform treatments. The ’48 new retros are gonna go the way of the blue hats in ’94.

  • Shaftman | April 3, 2008 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment="247152"][quote comment="247146"][quote comment="247144"]A buddy of mine who lives in L.A. went to the Coliseum game and said it was a blast.

    We were talking about it and I wondered if there was any precedent for an event like this, i.e., team going back to play a game in its old stadium after playing many years in a new one, in the same city.

    We discussed the Yankees going from Yankee Stadium to Shea and back in the 1970s when the former was rebuilt, but that was a very different circumstance. They moved to Shea temporarily out of necessity, the return to Yankee Stadium was permanent (well, not really, but you get my meaning) and in the interim the facility had essentially been completely rebuilt from the outside in.

    The only other example I could think of, also involving the L.A. Coliseum as it turns out, but not involving the same city, was the L.A. Raiders moving back to Oakland in ’95, although that’s also not entirely analogous as, like the Yankees, the move back was essentially permanent and the old facility was extensively remodeled (in this case subsequently). Perhaps a better example would be the exhibition game they played in Oakland against the Oilers in 1989.

    Can anyone think of another example of this type of event?[/quote]

    Didnt the NY FOOTBALL Giants play in Shit, err Shea and the Yale Bowl while Yankee was remade and then on to Gaints Stadium?[/quote]

    Yes, they did. They went from the Polo Grounds (1920s-1955) to Yankee Stadium (1956-72) to the Yale Bowl in Connecticut (1973-74) to Shea (1975) to Giants Stadium (1976-present).[/quote]

    It’s a little bit of a reach but on April 15, 1998 the Yankees played one “home” game at Shea after a beam collapsed at Yankee Stadium. That means that they returned to a stadium that they called home for the 1974 & 1975 seasons.

  • werthj | April 3, 2008 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment="247119"][quote comment="247090"]This is a little off topic, but for you Cubs fans, it just so happens that Google’s Street View option captures Cub Manager Lou Piniella walking to his car on Clark Street on a non-game day. I wonder what the odds of this are.[/quote]
    Dude can’t even get his on parking spot at the stadium?!? Guess that the Cubs for ya.[/quote]
    Maybe I am naive, but how do you know that picture was taken on a non-gameday?

  • James Craven | April 3, 2008 at 2:23 pm |

    How long has it been since SOUTH FLORIDA had a professional sports franchise?

  • DawgFan | April 3, 2008 at 2:23 pm |

    Nice article here about former Braves and Mets pitcher George Stone, notice the hat and jersey.

    He also happens to have gone to my Alma Mater, Louisiana Tech. Ruston, LA has produced quite a few pro athletes for such a small town (pop. 20k or so)

  • James Craven | April 3, 2008 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment="247146"]“Didn’t the NY FOOTBALL Giants play in Shit, err Shea and the Yale Bowl while Yankee was remade and then on to Giants Stadium?”[/quote]

    Please don’t get on LI Phil’s bad side mentioning “Shitty Field”. Thank you.

  • lwiedy | April 3, 2008 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment="247146"][quote comment="247144"]A buddy of mine who lives in L.A. went to the Coliseum game and said it was a blast.

    We were talking about it and I wondered if there was any precedent for an event like this, i.e., team going back to play a game in its old stadium after playing many years in a new one, in the same city.

    We discussed the Yankees going from Yankee Stadium to Shea and back in the 1970s when the former was rebuilt, but that was a very different circumstance. They moved to Shea temporarily out of necessity, the return to Yankee Stadium was permanent (well, not really, but you get my meaning) and in the interim the facility had essentially been completely rebuilt from the outside in.

    The only other example I could think of, also involving the L.A. Coliseum as it turns out, but not involving the same city, was the L.A. Raiders moving back to Oakland in ’95, although that’s also not entirely analogous as, like the Yankees, the move back was essentially permanent and the old facility was extensively remodeled (in this case subsequently). Perhaps a better example would be the exhibition game they played in Oakland against the Oilers in 1989.

    Can anyone think of another example of this type of event?[/quote]

    Didnt the NY FOOTBALL Giants play in Shit, err Shea and the Yale Bowl while Yankee was remade and then on to Gaints Stadium?[/quote]

    You know why they call it Yale Bowl, don’t you? Because Toilet was taken.

  • Ben | April 3, 2008 at 2:30 pm |

    T-Money and Prince Fielder are showing some major sock today for the Brewers. I saw a shot of the dugout and it looks as though a few others may be as well. GO BREWERS

  • Duckstyle | April 3, 2008 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment="247154"][quote comment="247152"][quote comment="247146"][quote comment="247144"]A buddy of mine who lives in L.A. went to the Coliseum game and said it was a blast.

    We were talking about it and I wondered if there was any precedent for an event like this, i.e., team going back to play a game in its old stadium after playing many years in a new one, in the same city.

    We discussed the Yankees going from Yankee Stadium to Shea and back in the 1970s when the former was rebuilt, but that was a very different circumstance. They moved to Shea temporarily out of necessity, the return to Yankee Stadium was permanent (well, not really, but you get my meaning) and in the interim the facility had essentially been completely rebuilt from the outside in.

    The only other example I could think of, also involving the L.A. Coliseum as it turns out, but not involving the same city, was the L.A. Raiders moving back to Oakland in ’95, although that’s also not entirely analogous as, like the Yankees, the move back was essentially permanent and the old facility was extensively remodeled (in this case subsequently). Perhaps a better example would be the exhibition game they played in Oakland against the Oilers in 1989.

    Can anyone think of another example of this type of event?[/quote]

    Didnt the NY FOOTBALL Giants play in Shit, err Shea and the Yale Bowl while Yankee was remade and then on to Gaints Stadium?[/quote]

    Yes, they did. They went from the Polo Grounds (1920s-1955) to Yankee Stadium (1956-72) to the Yale Bowl in Connecticut (1973-74) to Shea (1975) to Giants Stadium (1976-present).[/quote]

    It’s a little bit of a reach but on April 15, 1998 the Yankees played one “home” game at Shea after a beam collapsed at Yankee Stadium. That means that they returned to a stadium that they called home for the 1974 & 1975 seasons.[/quote]

    Rumor has it that the Cubs will be playing in US Cellular for a year or so when they finally sell the stadium to, whom ever, and start renovating.

  • LA Ball Talk | April 3, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    Just in case the link hasn’t been posted yet, the White Sox Radio Team contact: http://chicago.white...

    Daniel – http://www.laballtal...

  • Anthony Verna | April 3, 2008 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment="247060"]Whenever you see the circle-R, it means that the person or company using the trademark isn’t the owner. Nothing more complex than that.[/quote]

    Incorrect. The R-in-a-circle means that mark is a registered trademark. It has gone through the entire legal registration process with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

    The small TM, honestly, has zero federal legal meaning.

    You can see a primer on my website (click on my name).

  • Philly William | April 3, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment="247126"]FYI all, the Phillies are wearing the new “alt/throwback” today against the Nationals in Philadelphia. They look nice.[/quote]

    Jimmy Rollins is wearing his socks high today, after going low the first two games. Wonder if he’ll keep that look whenever they wear the alts (which won’t be often if they don’t score some runs soon!).

  • Anthony Verna | April 3, 2008 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment="247153"][quote comment="247006"][quote comment="246952"]Check out the Detroit Tigers M&Ms–they have both versions of the stylized ‘D’.[/quote]

    I’m happy there is no black Mets M&Ms[/quote]

    A Uni Watch first – a link to a site my company designed! Thank you all for your volunteer QA efforts…

    And the Phillies bad luck (or ineptitude) continues with alternate uniform treatments. The ’48 new retros are gonna go the way of the blue hats in ’94.[/quote]

    I’m listening to the game right now, streaming it online. Ick. I was at Opening Day and I’m going to the April 9th game here at Shea. . . but I am not pleased at what’s happening (though it is only three games in a baseball season).

  • Minna H. | April 3, 2008 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment="247163"][quote comment="247060"]Whenever you see the circle-R, it means that the person or company using the trademark isn’t the owner. Nothing more complex than that.[/quote]

    Incorrect. The R-in-a-circle means that mark is a registered trademark. It has gone through the entire legal registration process with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

    The small TM, honestly, has zero federal legal meaning.

    You can see a primer on my website (click on my name).[/quote]

    Anthony V.! Good to see ya! Shoulda known you would be right on the trademark situation.

    Re: The Wild! Great, just great. They are the one MN team in whom I take a modicum of pride, but they are undermining my efforts to cheer for them by continuing that inane slogan. “A Team of 18,000.” It sounds straight from a high school yearbook (do they have those any more?).

    As for LOL and the Twins, I don’t give a damn what the new stadium is called because the team is still gonna end up in the cellar.

  • JeffDem | April 3, 2008 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment="247160"]T-Money and Prince Fielder are showing some major sock today for the Brewers. I saw a shot of the dugout and it looks as though a few others may be as well. GO BREWERS[/quote]

    I thought Fielder looked bad with the pajama pants, he looks like he’s wearing baggy shorts out there today. Not a good look.

  • Anthony Verna | April 3, 2008 at 2:58 pm |

    Always good to jump in, Minna. I always read, even if I don’t always comment.

  • MLB2PDX | April 3, 2008 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment="247160"]T-Money and Prince Fielder are showing some major sock today for the Brewers. I saw a shot of the dugout and it looks as though a few others may be as well. GO BREWERS[/quote]

    Fielder looks VERY old school since his pants are so baggy. The WGN announcers were making fun of him for it, but I like it. Definitely way better than the long pants.

  • JeffDem | April 3, 2008 at 3:01 pm |

    Fielder has to have the elastic bottom of his pants pulled above his knees. If they weren’t so baggy they may not look that bad, but boy….

  • Duckstyle | April 3, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment="247175"][quote comment="247160"]T-Money and Prince Fielder are showing some major sock today for the Brewers. I saw a shot of the dugout and it looks as though a few others may be as well. GO BREWERS[/quote]

    Fielder looks VERY old school since his pants are so baggy. The WGN announcers were making fun of him for it, but I like it. Definitely way better than the long pants.[/quote]

    I’ve always been a fan of baggy pants to the knee, and stirrups with just a touch to sock showing. Doesn’t get any better IMO.

  • MLB2PDX | April 3, 2008 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment="247176"]Fielder has to have the elastic bottom of his pants pulled above his knees. If they weren’t so baggy they may not look that bad, but boy….[/quote]

    I dont mind the baggy at all. He looks like the way they used to be in the “Ruth Era”. I have no problem with it.

  • James Craven | April 3, 2008 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment="247116"]“Last thing on the Trop. When H.Wayne Huizenga blocked the move of the Giants to St.Petersburg in the early 90’s his man reason was that no team in Florida needed a dome. Now some 15 years later he is fighting with Miami/Dade County to get at least a retractable roof stadium because of all the rainouts they get every year (on average 10+). And there is a huge difference when you add the extra 10 degrees in temp and the extra humidity. And again once inside the Trop it is very nice and roomy. See it for yourself before making blanket statements of how terrible it is.”[/quote]

    Don’t you mean Jeff “Cheapskate two of the last three years and 100 losses to prove it” Loria? The guy who left Les Expos de Montreal RIP en route to Washington, DC, selling them to MLB?

  • Mike | April 3, 2008 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment="247172"][quote comment="247160"]T-Money and Prince Fielder are showing some major sock today for the Brewers. I saw a shot of the dugout and it looks as though a few others may be as well. GO BREWERS[/quote]

    I thought Fielder looked bad with the pajama pants, he looks like he’s wearing baggy shorts out there today. Not a good look.[/quote]

    I’m a pretty big Prince Fielder fan, but there are times he looks like he’s wearing a dress out there. Maybe it’s next: kilts on the baseball field? Take a page from the AAGPBL maybe? :\

  • lwiedy | April 3, 2008 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment="247178"][quote comment="247176"]Fielder has to have the elastic bottom of his pants pulled above his knees. If they weren’t so baggy they may not look that bad, but boy….[/quote]

    I dont mind the baggy at all. He looks like the way they used to be in the “Ruth Era”. I have no problem with it.[/quote]

    Certainly to each his own, but I prefer a reasonably tailored look. The bagginess in the Ruth era was most likely for practicality. Wool flannel up against the skin was very uncomfortable.

    It’s done now for, well, I’m afraid to ask or know.

  • Tim Abel | April 3, 2008 at 3:15 pm |

    fielder looks AWFUL today… looks like he’s wearing baggy cargo shorts

  • Anthony Verna | April 3, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    Actually, MLB itself blocked the sale of the Giants to the partnership that would have moved the team to Tampa, which included one man naed Vincent Piazza.

    http://www.bizofbase...

    http://www.law.stets... (warning – pdf)

  • lwiedy | April 3, 2008 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment="247184"]Actually, MLB itself blocked the sale of the Giants to the partnership that would have moved the team to Tampa, which included one man naed Vincent Piazza.

    http://www.bizofbase...

    http://www.law.stets... (warning – pdf)[/quote]

    Possible bias in that .pdf? ;-) Stetson is a $5.00 cab ride from the Trop.

  • Walaitis | April 3, 2008 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment="247104"][quote comment="247099"][quote comment="247090"]This is a little off topic, but for you Cubs fans, it just so happens that Google’s Street View option captures Cub Manager Lou Piniella walking to his car on Clark Street on a non-game day. I wonder what the odds of this are.[/quote]

    Very, very cool. Thanks![/quote]

    Is that real? Can Google actually do this or is this a late april fool?[/quote]

    That really is a function of Google in certain areas. A couple weeks ago, when I first learned about it, I got to “remotely” drive by the house I grew up in, in Arlington Heights (northwest of Chicago). Very cool indeed.

    I, too, would like to know why Lou had to park so far away (unless he was stopping by a “business” – read: bar – near the park).

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 3:51 pm |

    bar or strip joint?

  • Walaitis | April 3, 2008 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment="247197"]bar or strip joint?[/quote]

    At least last time I was at Wrigley Field (10+ years), I don’t remember there being any strip joints in the neighborhood, but I could be wrong.

    If you “mouse around” the picture, you will see he is walking past/away from “Bar Louie”. Anyone in Chicago know if that’s a place he has connections to?

  • lwiedy | April 3, 2008 at 4:11 pm |

    Tigers scored five runs in thier first 29 innings and never scored more than one run in any inning. Who’s that juggernaut!!!!(Please indulge, it won’t last).

  • J | April 3, 2008 at 4:13 pm |

    Just turned on the Cubs game. Soriano has some funky eye black with some white in the middle. Has he always been doing this?

  • Nicole | April 3, 2008 at 4:13 pm |

    Someone, ANYONE with a Fielder in socks pic for those of us TV deficient here at work?!

    Don’t forget that the last time Prince wore socks was a Negro Leagues game and he had them about mid shin and looked like he was wearing capris.

  • Brad | April 3, 2008 at 4:22 pm |

    Padres pitcher Randy Wolf is clearly wearing a 2006 New Era 5950 model hat today against the Astros. It seems hard to figure that there would be so many left in stock, unless someone thought to put some away after the ’06 season.

  • Josh | April 3, 2008 at 4:23 pm |

    The Phils are now tied 7-7 in the 9th. Maybe these beautiful uniforms wil be here to stay.

    And as I type this, Willie Harris is batting for the Nats with a double ear-flapped helmet.
    Oh how I love the MLB Extra Innings package.

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 4:25 pm |

    [quote comment="247205"]the last time Prince wore socks was a Negro Leagues game.[/quote]

    prince was in the negro leagues? they still have those

  • Kenny | April 3, 2008 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment="247090"]This is a little off topic, but for you Cubs fans, it just so happens that Google’s Street View option captures Cub Manager Lou Piniella walking to his car on Clark Street on a non-game day. I wonder what the odds of this are.[/quote]

    Well it looks like he was walking from Bar Louie…surprise, surprise

  • Kenny | April 3, 2008 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment="247156"]How long has it been since SOUTH FLORIDA had a professional sports franchise?[/quote]

    Didn’t the Miami Heat just win the title like what, two years ago? (Granted they are terrible now)

  • Forbesy | April 3, 2008 at 4:47 pm |

    these phils alts are great, but i can’t get comfortable with the blue hats. and when they’re batting, i LOVE the red batting helmet with the unis. i feel like a full red hat with the throwback “P” would be a better look with these.

  • alm8319 | April 3, 2008 at 4:48 pm |

    Spiz’ikes aren’t the most traditional, but I definitely like them. Often, Jordan “purists” dont appreciate anything new. The xx3’s are the best jordan’s (in my opinion) since the XI, and before that, since the V.

  • Duckstyle | April 3, 2008 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment="247209"][quote comment="247205"]the last time Prince wore socks was a Negro Leagues game.[/quote]

    prince was in the negro leagues? they still have those[/quote]

    After it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes. [Pause] Pancakes.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | April 3, 2008 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment="247213"][quote comment="247090"]This is a little off topic, but for you Cubs fans, it just so happens that Google’s Street View option captures Cub Manager Lou Piniella walking to his car on Clark Street on a non-game day. I wonder what the odds of this are.[/quote]

    Well it looks like he was walking from Bar Louie…surprise, surprise[/quote]
    Probably popped in for their Tuesday 99-cent hamburger special.
    Or maybe not

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment="247220"][quote comment="247209"]After it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes. [Pause] Pancakes.[/quote]

    you ought to take that cane and beat whoever made that suit to death

  • Joey Guns | April 3, 2008 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment="246949"]people still do the wave?[/quote]

    I hate when people try to do the wave at Shea Stadium during key moments in Mets games.

    The wave is still HUGE at Beaver Stadium (Penn State).

  • Carmen Fanzone | April 3, 2008 at 4:56 pm |

    Apparently, Soriano’s “eye black” has the name of his company on it. Kind of sticks out. His dark skin and white lettering on the eye black. Okay, it looks like crap.

    Compare Fielder’s look today to the Cubs’ Felix Pie. Fielder looks like a clown. And I’ll save the obvious “Ruth-Fielder” body comparison.

  • Carmen Fanzone | April 3, 2008 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment="247205"]Someone, ANYONE with a Fielder in socks pic for those of us TV deficient here at work?!

    Don’t forget that the last time Prince wore socks was a Negro Leagues game and he had them about mid shin and looked like he was wearing capris.[/quote]

    He’s wearing them right at the knee today. “Wearing Capris” is a pretty good description.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | April 3, 2008 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment="247220"][quote comment="247209"][quote comment="247205"]the last time Prince wore socks was a Negro Leagues game.[/quote]

    prince was in the negro leagues? they still have those[/quote]

    After it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes. [Pause] Pancakes.[/quote]
    ”Challenge him, a’ight!? Make sure your people is there to see the game, cuz you just might get embarrassed.”

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment="247227"][quote comment="247220"][quote comment="247209"][quote comment="247205"]the last time Prince wore socks was a Negro Leagues game.[/quote]

    prince was in the negro leagues? they still have those[/quote]

    After it was all over, he took us in the house and served us pancakes. [Pause] Pancakes.[/quote]
    ”Challenge him, a’ight!? Make sure your people is there to see the game, cuz you just might get embarrassed.”[/quote]

    i don’t know what he was angry about…i mean, you know where you got that shirt…and it damn sure wasn’t the men’s department…

  • Greg V. | April 3, 2008 at 5:13 pm |

    [quote comment="246984"][quote comment="246967"][quote comment="246966"]
    I want to see what you guys can find for a WHITE Mets cap. I’ve already looked at some of the big sites (mlb, lids, starstruck, eastbay), but I know this group can uncover some real gems out there.[/quote]

    so…you’re looking to buy this?[/quote]

    It’s a good start. Found something similar at Lids.

    Over at MLB.com, this one is respectable, whereas this needs to disappear quickly.[/quote]

    there’s always this

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 5:46 pm |

    im not too happy about this ‘photo ban’ or whatever ya wanna call it by mlb…trying to find photos of the phils new alts in action from today is proving difficult…pissing me off

    here is j-ro scoring the game winner…and another

    no pics of prince either (yet)

  • Ben | April 3, 2008 at 6:42 pm |

    [quote comment="247240"]im not too happy about this ‘photo ban’ or whatever ya wanna call it by mlb…trying to find photos of the phils new alts in action from today is proving difficult…pissing me off

    here is j-ro scoring the game winner…and another

    no pics of prince either (yet)[/quote]
    They ruined those alts with the cartoonish font. Should have went old school with the numbers and names.

  • Chris ATL | April 3, 2008 at 6:47 pm |
  • Phil | April 3, 2008 at 6:55 pm |

    [quote comment="247219"]Spiz’ikes aren’t the most traditional, but I definitely like them. Often, Jordan “purists” dont appreciate anything new. The xx3’s are the best jordan’s (in my opinion) since the XI, and before that, since the V.[/quote]

    I don’t know if I consider myself a Jordan “purist,” as I’ve purchased many of the more recent “retros” (I use that term somewhat loosely) but I know one thing: Spizikes, to me, represent a mockery of some of the most innovative shoes ever desinged. The concept is novel, but misses the mark. Just my opinion…

    And, couldn’t agree with you more: the XXIII is a solid shoe, probably the best in my mind since the XX, which was very underrated. As for the XI and V, well, you can’t argue with perfection.

  • Jerico | April 3, 2008 at 7:29 pm |

    [quote comment="247161"][quote comment="247154"][quote comment="247152"][quote comment="247146"][quote comment="247144"]A buddy of mine who lives in L.A. went to the Coliseum game and said it was a blast.

    We were talking about it and I wondered if there was any precedent for an event like this, i.e., team going back to play a game in its old stadium after playing many years in a new one, in the same city.

    We discussed the Yankees going from Yankee Stadium to Shea and back in the 1970s when the former was rebuilt, but that was a very different circumstance. They moved to Shea temporarily out of necessity, the return to Yankee Stadium was permanent (well, not really, but you get my meaning) and in the interim the facility had essentially been completely rebuilt from the outside in.

    The only other example I could think of, also involving the L.A. Coliseum as it turns out, but not involving the same city, was the L.A. Raiders moving back to Oakland in ’95, although that’s also not entirely analogous as, like the Yankees, the move back was essentially permanent and the old facility was extensively remodeled (in this case subsequently). Perhaps a better example would be the exhibition game they played in Oakland against the Oilers in 1989.

    Can anyone think of another example of this type of event?[/quote]

    Didnt the NY FOOTBALL Giants play in Shit, err Shea and the Yale Bowl while Yankee was remade and then on to Gaints Stadium?[/quote]

    Yes, they did. They went from the Polo Grounds (1920s-1955) to Yankee Stadium (1956-72) to the Yale Bowl in Connecticut (1973-74) to Shea (1975) to Giants Stadium (1976-present).[/quote]

    It’s a little bit of a reach but on April 15, 1998 the Yankees played one “home” game at Shea after a beam collapsed at Yankee Stadium. That means that they returned to a stadium that they called home for the 1974 & 1975 seasons.[/quote]

    Rumor has it that the Cubs will be playing in US Cellular for a year or so when they finally sell the stadium to, whom ever, and start renovating.[/quote]
    Chances are it won’t happen, but I’d hitchhike to Chicago to see the Bears play Wrigley again.

  • Concerned Citizen | April 3, 2008 at 7:36 pm |

    Speaking of eyeblack, the funniest comment I’ve read in a long while was posted by commenter “Old Man” on Roch Kubatko’s Baltimore Sun blog concerning O’s closer O’s closer George Sherrill and his flat-billed cap:

    “If Sherrill had some eye black on with that big flat orange bill on his cap he would look like Daffy Duck after a bomb went off in his hands.”

  • Paul G | April 3, 2008 at 8:36 pm |

    i love the phils new uni’s, but why don’t teams go the extra mile and get alternate helmets to match the alternate uni’s, seems tacky. also the jackets being worn by the phils’ players in the dugout should be blue and not red, it would look a lot better, as would blue undershirts.

  • Ben | April 3, 2008 at 9:38 pm |

    On the Braves broadcast they are commenting on Pirates 2nd baseman (Rivas) and his crosstrainers that he’s had fitted with spikes. They are gray high tops and they look like CRAP.

  • Glenn | April 3, 2008 at 10:00 pm |

    [quote comment="247110"][quote comment="247104"][quote comment="247099"][quote comment="247090"]This is a little off topic, but for you Cubs fans, it just so happens that Google’s Street View option captures Cub Manager Lou Piniella walking to his car on Clark Street on a non-game day. I wonder what the odds of this are.[/quote]

    Very, very cool. Thanks![/quote]

    Is that real? Can Google actually do this or is this a late april fool?[/quote]

    It absolutely is. Before I went to the Pre Super Bowl UW Party in Park Slope, I used it and it gave me a snapshot of the actual intersection where the bar was. i would have never found it otherwise.

    When this feature, along with Google Earth, were first available, my students absolutely LOVED it.
    One very cheeky lad tried to find a nude beach one of his friends had told him about. Luckily for all involved, him included, it remained unfound.

    I would love to check the address of MSG and see a certain coach walking out with his belongings in a moving box![/quote]

    its still not quite as good as the Chicago crack deal they caught on Google maps “street view”. They’ve taken that address out, but I’ll post the link if anyone’s interested.

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 10:12 pm |

    [quote comment="247246"][quote comment="247240"]im not too happy about this ‘photo ban’ or whatever ya wanna call it by mlb…trying to find photos of the phils new alts in action from today is proving difficult…pissing me off

    here is j-ro scoring the game winner…and another

    no pics of prince either (yet)[/quote]
    They ruined those alts with the cartoonish font. Should have went old school with the numbers and names.[/quote]

    here and here are the ONLY two other phil’s pics from the game that i could find on yahoo, espn or reuters…

    this is sooooooo gonna suck

    i hope someone has some SC’s of the FRONT of the phil’s uni, since the braintrusts who decide what 7 game photos can appear decided the 4 pics i posted (the other 3 were of the nats) didn’t need to show the front of the unis

    now imo have to do some more searching

  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 10:17 pm |
  • LI Phil | April 3, 2008 at 10:19 pm |

    [quote comment="247276"]philly inqurier gallery[/quote]

    FYI for paul…pic #8 in the gallery shows lo duca with the inverted “I” (a/k/a uniform malfunction)

  • Graf Zeppelin | April 3, 2008 at 10:25 pm |

    [quote comment="247154"][quote comment="247152"][quote comment="247146"][quote comment="247144"]A buddy of mine who lives in L.A. went to the Coliseum game and said it was a blast.

    We were talking about it and I wondered if there was any precedent for an event like this, i.e., team going back to play a game in its old stadium after playing many years in a new one, in the same city.

    We discussed the Yankees going from Yankee Stadium to Shea and back in the 1970s when the former was rebuilt, but that was a very different circumstance. They moved to Shea temporarily out of necessity, the return to Yankee Stadium was permanent (well, not really, but you get my meaning) and in the interim the facility had essentially been completely rebuilt from the outside in.

    The only other example I could think of, also involving the L.A. Coliseum as it turns out, but not involving the same city, was the L.A. Raiders moving back to Oakland in ’95, although that’s also not entirely analogous as, like the Yankees, the move back was essentially permanent and the old facility was extensively remodeled (in this case subsequently). Perhaps a better example would be the exhibition game they played in Oakland against the Oilers in 1989.

    Can anyone think of another example of this type of event?[/quote]

    Didnt the NY FOOTBALL Giants play in Shit, err Shea and the Yale Bowl while Yankee was remade and then on to Gaints Stadium?[/quote]

    Yes, they did. They went from the Polo Grounds (1920s-1955) to Yankee Stadium (1956-72) to the Yale Bowl in Connecticut (1973-74) to Shea (1975) to Giants Stadium (1976-present).[/quote]

    It’s a little bit of a reach but on April 15, 1998 the Yankees played one “home” game at Shea after a beam collapsed at Yankee Stadium. That means that they returned to a stadium that they called home for the 1974 & 1975 seasons.[/quote]

    Yea, that’s a reach, but not bad. The hunk of steel that fell came from the original upper-level concourse, which still exists inside the upper deck and is used by stadium staff as a service/storage area.

    I wonder if anyone intends to document the dismantling of Yankee Stadium photographically. I’d really like to get an “inside” look at whatever is left of the original structure.

  • =bg= | April 3, 2008 at 11:42 pm |

    Wow, I didn’t know the Phils did that. That’s an alt? Should be there all the time. Looks like a creme to me? Like the Giants.

  • Mike Engle | April 3, 2008 at 11:59 pm |

    [quote comment="247255"][quote comment="247161"][quote comment="247154"][quote comment="247152"][quote comment="247146"][quote comment="247144"]A buddy of mine who lives in L.A. went to the Coliseum game and said it was a blast.

    We were talking about it and I wondered if there was any precedent for an event like this, i.e., team going back to play a game in its old stadium after playing many years in a new one, in the same city.

    We discussed the Yankees going from Yankee Stadium to Shea and back in the 1970s when the former was rebuilt, but that was a very different circumstance. They moved to Shea temporarily out of necessity, the return to Yankee Stadium was permanent (well, not really, but you get my meaning) and in the interim the facility had essentially been completely rebuilt from the outside in.

    The only other example I could think of, also involving the L.A. Coliseum as it turns out, but not involving the same city, was the L.A. Raiders moving back to Oakland in ’95, although that’s also not entirely analogous as, like the Yankees, the move back was essentially permanent and the old facility was extensively remodeled (in this case subsequently). Perhaps a better example would be the exhibition game they played in Oakland against the Oilers in 1989.

    Can anyone think of another example of this type of event?[/quote]

    Didnt the NY FOOTBALL Giants play in Shit, err Shea and the Yale Bowl while Yankee was remade and then on to Gaints Stadium?[/quote]

    Yes, they did. They went from the Polo Grounds (1920s-1955) to Yankee Stadium (1956-72) to the Yale Bowl in Connecticut (1973-74) to Shea (1975) to Giants Stadium (1976-present).[/quote]

    It’s a little bit of a reach but on April 15, 1998 the Yankees played one “home” game at Shea after a beam collapsed at Yankee Stadium. That means that they returned to a stadium that they called home for the 1974 & 1975 seasons.[/quote]

    Rumor has it that the Cubs will be playing in US Cellular for a year or so when they finally sell the stadium to, whom ever, and start renovating.[/quote]
    Chances are it won’t happen, but I’d hitchhike to Chicago to see the Bears play Wrigley again.[/quote]
    The Birmingham Barons do this every year. Throwback uniforms at the throwback field.

  • =bg= | April 4, 2008 at 12:12 am |

    Adidas creep for, uh, UCLA.

  • Eddie Jay | April 4, 2008 at 1:45 am |

    Yea, im happy the phils win, so they cant say the new alts are bad luck.

  • Forbesy | April 4, 2008 at 7:55 am |

    [quote comment="247278"][quote comment="247276"]philly inqurier gallery[/quote]

    FYI for paul…pic #8 in the gallery shows lo duca with the inverted “I” (a/k/a uniform malfunction)[/quote]

    great catch, Phil!

  • MPowers1634 | April 4, 2008 at 8:36 am |

    Chances are it won’t happen, but I’d hitchhike to Chicago to see the Bears play Wrigley again.

    I would rather see that “impossible” ski jump at Wrigley with my won eyes!

  • Bethany | April 4, 2008 at 9:14 am |

    Just wanted to report, Braves pitcher Jeff Bennett wore stirrups in his emergency start on Thursday. His pants were very strange though, really bunched up at where they meet the socks.