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Where Did We Go Wrong?

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I eat my vegetables. I try to drive like a rational, sensible human being. I avoid dropping f-bombs around my kid. And I’m sure the rest of the Uni Watch audience is no different — we’re doing the best we can with what we’ve got.

But the above image makes me wonder if we’ve been doing something wrong — if we’ve been upsetting some sort of cosmic uni-centric force. Have you guys and gals been sneaking out office supplies on the sly? Stealing from the collection plate or something? I know I don’t pick up the dog poop nearly as often as I should, but is this just punishment?

I’m wandering. Sorry. Back to the point: Regional championship hats? Seriously? Is anybody gonna look back in six years — or six months, even — and say, “Oh man, that 2008 Midwest regional was INSANE. And it was so awesome, I’m glad I have this generic souvenir hat as a token of said awesomeness.” Now, the World Series or Super Bowl or NBA Finals … well, maybe not the NBA Finals … those things make more sense. But a regional championship? (“Yeah, we’re at least fourth!”) Does it say Final Four on there anywhere, even? It seems like any accomplishment gets a hat now, which makes it considerably less exciting. And think of how dull it is if you have TWO hats. Yup, that dull.

Enjoy your Sunday — it’s time for baseball, finally. Bryan

 

192 comments to Where Did We Go Wrong?

  • Scott | March 30, 2008 at 7:24 am |

    It is a little lame for the hats, but they are technically “champions”.

    Remember – the tournament has four No. 1 seeds and two of those “tournaments” concluded last night.

    Teams have been cutting down the nets after winning the regional for years. I think the hats are just the next evolution.

  • Richard Gadsden | March 30, 2008 at 7:58 am |

    I have a Boston Red Sox AL East Division 2007 hat and wear it with pride. Mind you, the Red Sox have won more World Series than divisional titles lately.

  • Stuby | March 30, 2008 at 8:35 am |

    [quote comment=”244205″]I have a Boston Red Sox AL East Division 2007 hat and wear it with pride. Mind you, the Red Sox have won more World Series than divisional titles lately.[/quote]
    A Division in baseball is a real thing. A Region in the Tourney is something made up by a committee two weeks prior to the Regional Championship. My point is, I doubt UCLA starts the season saying “We want to win the West Region” because they may note even be in the West Region come tournament time.

  • todd krevanchi | March 30, 2008 at 8:43 am |

    it doesnt surprise me that the photo in question is lorenzon mata-real. he doesnt even look like a player. he puts his head band over his ears which someone will have to explain to me because that just looks goofy.

    then, the guy is a human coloring book. arms, legs, there is tattoo ink all over him! i mean, dude, take SOME pride in how your body looks, especially because your “canvas” is light in color and doesnt mask how goofy the tattoos look.

    interesting though, i actually thought it was a picture of seth green (as kenny from “cant hardly wait) doing his best lorenzo mata-real impression at first…

    [quote comment=”244200”]Remember – the tournament has four No. 1 seeds and two of those “tournaments” concluded last night.
    [/quote]

    excellent point… they dont call it the REGIONAL FINAL for nothing. i hate how the terms elite 8 and sweet 16 are used, so bush league. call them what they are, semi’s and finals of the region.

    [quote comment=”244205″]Seriously? Is anybody gonna look back in six years — or six months, even — and say, “Oh man, that 2008 Midwest regional was INSANE. And it was so awesome, I’m glad I have this generic souvenir hat as a token of said awesomeness.”Now, the World Series or Super Bowl or NBA Finals … well, maybe not the NBA Finals … those things make more sense. But a regional championship? (”Yeah, we’re at least fourth!”) Does it say Final Four on there anywhere, even? It seems like any accomplishment gets a hat now, which makes it considerably less exciting. And think of how dull it is if you have TWO hats. Yup, that dull.
    [/quote]

    no it says nothing of the final four because the accomplishment is the winning of the region. dull?
    multiple hats?
    ive seen plenty of young wrestlers who are happy to take as a souvenir the bracket of their league, district, region, etc., when they win it, and then move on. its a similar premise.

    and as far as that first comment goes about regional semis and finals? you ARE kidding i hope. i think anyone who is even a tiny college hoop fan remembers this regional final, and its well beyond your 6 year window… like almost 3 times that. and its only 1 example…

    http://youtube.com/w...

  • Stuby | March 30, 2008 at 9:07 am |

    I just saw a clip of Kevin Love at the post-game press conference and that dark spot on the bill of the cap is the Final Four logo.

  • JK | March 30, 2008 at 9:26 am |

    I am with Bryan on this. How about a hat for only the actual Champion. Do we really need AL & NL wild card champion hats?

  • John Baranowski | March 30, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    no mention of the Stanley Cup? C’mon Bryan, i know you’re new, but don’t alienate the Canadian and wanna-be-Canadian (like myself) readership. we’ll…uh…be quietly upset and think about acting upon that by writing you a carefully-worded unfriendly e-mail!

    …we’ll do it…don’t tempt us! lol

  • Andrew | March 30, 2008 at 9:49 am |

    The hats aren’t even the worst part…

    If I was a coach, I would refuse to accept this.

  • Jason | March 30, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    I bought a hat when Louisville made the Final Four in 2005 and I would have bought one again this year. When they’ve only been there twice in my lifetime you’d better believe I’m going to get what I can.

  • The Ol Goaler | March 30, 2008 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment=”244228″]no mention of the Stanley Cup? C’mon Bryan, i know you’re new, but don’t alienate the Canadian and wanna-be-Canadian (like myself) readership. we’ll…uh…be quietly upset and think about acting upon that by writing you a carefully-worded unfriendly e-mail!

    …we’ll do it…don’t tempt us! lol[/quote]
    Sadly, the Stanley Cup playoffs could be marred by all the ridiculous RBK uniforms… UniWatchers should pray for a Montreal CanadiensDetroit Red Wings Finals; pairing classic looks!

  • Evan | March 30, 2008 at 10:27 am |

    Yes, theyve done this for years, but last year when Florida made the Final Four again they werent selling any of the regional stuff here

  • Christopher | March 30, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”244220″]
    and as far as that first comment goes about regional semis and finals? you ARE kidding i hope. i think anyone who is even a tiny college hoop fan remembers this regional final, and its well beyond your 6 year window… like almost 3 times that. and its only 1 example…

    http://youtube.com/w...

    Well, of course. It was a good game. But who thinks of it as a “Championship” game? I don’t. Most people don’t.

    In fact, because the “regions” are actually random (its not like Team X is always in Region Y every year), its meaningless.

    By the way, does anyone honestly think of Indiana as the 1992 Southwest Region Champion? Nah… they think of that team as making the final four and losing. A nice accomplishment, but not worthy of a banner or hat!

  • Steve | March 30, 2008 at 10:41 am |

    Last night, Shaquille O’Neal shredded a net on a basket while being fouled on a shot attempt, causing a nine-minute delay in the second quarter as arena workers scrambled around searching for a new net.

  • John Baranowski | March 30, 2008 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”244233″][quote comment=”244228″]no mention of the Stanley Cup? C’mon Bryan, i know you’re new, but don’t alienate the Canadian and wanna-be-Canadian (like myself) readership. we’ll…uh…be quietly upset and think about acting upon that by writing you a carefully-worded unfriendly e-mail!

    …we’ll do it…don’t tempt us! lol[/quote]
    Sadly, the Stanley Cup playoffs could be marred by all the ridiculous RBK uniforms… UniWatchers should pray for a Montreal CanadiensDetroit Red Wings Finals; pairing classic looks![/quote]

    ok, so the nhl’s acceptance of rbk is a major part of the problem of logocreep and corporate greed…but they still have Stanley Cup hats and they aren’t too shabby…unless rbk changes that too. still, a little recognition here and there is nice, the sport is ignored too much as it is, let’s not add to that problem

  • Jeremy | March 30, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    I understand the anti-hat sentiment, but why is such a damper put on accepting a trophy, and being happy that you just accomplished something.I understand it’s in a human beings competitive nature to not get complacent and strive for more, but let’s be honest, UNC and UCLA accomplished something last night that only two other teams will this season. It’s pretty damn impressive to make the final four when you consider that Divison 1 basketball has over 300 teams, so to say that a coach shouldn’t accept a trophy, or players, who are in the age range of 18-22, shouldn’t celebrate their accomplishments is pretty ridiculous. People need to realize that sports is no different than anything else in life. If someone here got the job they really wanted, after beating out over 300 people, they would celebrate, right? So why should these student-athletes be any different?

  • kyle. | March 30, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    worse than the regional champ gear, in my opinion, was lorenzo mata-real wearing a “pac 10 repeat champion” t-shirt over his jersey at the start of the game instead of team warmups. what’s the deal with that?

  • Shayne Menecola | March 30, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    The hats are stupid and the designs of these and most hats are stupid and to stay up here on my soapbox for a second. I grew up in the late 80’s early 90’s and undersetand the whole hip hop fashion revoloution or whatever it may be called but there really are only two ways to wear a hat (well may three) 1) the proper way brim to the front. 2) The athletic way brim to the back, and of course 3) the rally cap way. Remove all tags, stickers and wear that frickin thing like you support the team/cause or whatever.

    I’ll step down and hide back in my snow covered pod I call my home.

  • Adam Monk | March 30, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    So does this mean that children in Africa are gonna be wearing “Louisville Eastern Region Champs” clothing?

  • John in Athens | March 30, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    Is there any chance that there will be a Uni-vestigation into the insta-gear phenomenom?

    Who makes them? Where are they kept? At what point in the tournament/playoff/series are the orders placed?

    Personally, I think it’s just a tv gimmick so that kids at home can go, “Wow! They just won and they’ve already got hats!”

    And how tacky is it to see these athletes battle each other in their authentic, several hundred dollars worth of uniform only to stand on a podium in a crappy white t-shirt?

    “I’M GOING TO DISNEY WORLD! AND I’M ALREADY DRESSING THE PART!”

  • todd krevanchi | March 30, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”244236″][quote comment=”244220″]
    and as far as that first comment goes about regional semis and finals? you ARE kidding i hope. i think anyone who is even a tiny college hoop fan remembers this regional final, and its well beyond your 6 year window… like almost 3 times that. and its only 1 example…

    http://youtube.com/w...

    Well, of course. It was a good game. But who thinks of it as a “Championship” game? I don’t. Most people don’t.

    In fact, because the “regions” are actually random (its not like Team X is always in Region Y every year), its meaningless.

    By the way, does anyone honestly think of Indiana as the 1992 Southwest Region Champion? Nah… they think of that team as making the final four and losing. A nice accomplishment, but not worthy of a banner or hat![/quote]

    good game? its one of the greatest games ever played in team sports. i do think of them as a regional champion because thats the only way you can qualify for the national semis!

    these games are regional finals, meaning championship games.

    this whole notion of sweet 16, or elite 8 makes no sense to me because it makes no mention of the teams accomplishment.

    the ncaa, since 1985, has set up a 64/5 team tournament of 4 regional brackets. each region has a champion.
    champions go to the “final four” (corporate term) site and then play for the national title. they dont accept runners up or alternates there, only champions of 4 regional brackets. and it is a major accomplishment to win your regoion.

    i cant believe that this needs to be explained.

    also, i would appreciate it if you wouldnt speak on my behalf, or on the behalf of the rest of the UW readership when you say “most people dont”… think of it “as a championship game”. i believe ive earned my opinion on this matter and other matters, and so have the others. id rather not be grouped into the blanket statement opinions of others. thank you.

  • StevieW | March 30, 2008 at 11:45 am |

    “whatever it may be called but there really are only two ways to wear a hat (well may three) 1) the proper way brim to the front. 2) The athletic way brim to the back, and of course 3) the rally cap way”

    If I read this correctly, the brim to the back is considered the “athletic way” ? That means like a pre-modern batting helmet backward wearing catcher?

    I didn’t know that served any other purpose, other than being a catcher? Or do you mean like athletes that wear their hats backwards casually, like Ken Griffey’s son does sometimes in interviews and bp?

    (I’m not trying to be sarcastic or a smart-ass, I just don’t know what that means.)

    I also have a personal policy, of not wearing your hat backwards once you’ve
    1. Reached 30 yrs old or
    2. Got full time job or
    3. Have a Mortgage.
    or faced with an extremely high wind circumstance like a hurricane or something.

  • Greg | March 30, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    If it works for the basketball Final Four, why not the hockey Frozen Four?

  • Christopher | March 30, 2008 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”244251″][quote comment=”244236″][quote comment=”244220″]
    and as far as that first comment goes about regional semis and finals? you ARE kidding i hope. i think anyone who is even a tiny college hoop fan remembers this regional final, and its well beyond your 6 year window… like almost 3 times that. and its only 1 example…

    http://youtube.com/w...

    Well, of course. It was a good game. But who thinks of it as a “Championship” game? I don’t. Most people don’t.

    In fact, because the “regions” are actually random (its not like Team X is always in Region Y every year), its meaningless.

    By the way, does anyone honestly think of Indiana as the 1992 Southwest Region Champion? Nah… they think of that team as making the final four and losing. A nice accomplishment, but not worthy of a banner or hat![/quote]

    good game? its one of the greatest games ever played in team sports. i do think of them as a regional champion because thats the only way you can qualify for the national semis!

    these games are regional finals, meaning championship games.

    this whole notion of sweet 16, or elite 8 makes no sense to me because it makes no mention of the teams accomplishment.

    the ncaa, since 1985, has set up a 64/5 team tournament of 4 regional brackets. each region has a champion.
    champions go to the “final four” (corporate term) site and then play for the national title. they dont accept runners up or alternates there, only champions of 4 regional brackets. and it is a major accomplishment to win your regoion.

    i cant believe that this needs to be explained.

    also, i would appreciate it if you wouldnt speak on my behalf, or on the behalf of the rest of the UW readership when you say “most people dont”… think of it “as a championship game”. i believe ive earned my opinion on this matter and other matters, and so have the others. id rather not be grouped into the blanket statement opinions of others. thank you.[/quote]

    Wow, no offense man. “Most people” is just a general statement no different than you saying “anyone who is even a tiny college hoop fan”. Not trying to speak for anyone, I’m just of the opinion that this is what the majority of people think. I could be wrong, I did not take a poll. I apologize if I came off offensively.

    Here’s my issue with the whole “champion” thing. The brackets are (for lack of a better term) random. Duke could be in the Southwest this year and Midwest next year. Therefore the “Southwest Region” is meaningless as any sort of division of teams.

    Does any team hang a “Southwest Regional Champion” banner in their halls if they did not move on to win the actual championship?

    What *is* the Southwest Region anyway? Who plays in it? Who do you think has the best shot of winning it next year?

    That’s all that bothers me.

  • sebtown | March 30, 2008 at 12:03 pm |

    When did people start the hate? I was completely surprised to see someone up in arms about cutting down the nets— it’s a tradition! And since when was advancing to the Final Four not as big a deal?

    Should we get rid of Conference trophies in major sports? Chide the NFC and AFC champs for enjoying winning their conference, and to suck it up for the Big Game in two weeks?

    Though the four teams advancing in college basketball this weekend aren’t literally in the championship game, making the Final Four is on par with making the title game in other sports.

    Besides, they’re kids. Let them enjoy it.

  • Paul Lukas | March 30, 2008 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”244241″]If someone here got the job they really wanted, after beating out over 300 people, they would celebrate, right?[/quote]

    Um, would anyone have a hat or trophy made up for the occasion..?

    The four “regions” are bogus and arbitrary — they’re created by the selection committee (as opposed to, say, the conferences, which are genuine competitive circuits). Morever, the whole notion of there being FOUR mini-tournaments is also completely arbitrary — you could just as easily say there are only two major brackets, whose winners meet in the NCAA finals, or eight major brackets, whose winners meet in the Elite Eight, or whatever. Because we’ve all bought into the notion of the Final Four being “the big thing,” we further accept the notion that the four regionals are de facto important. But at the end of the day, there’s still only ONE tournament, with ONE winner, and I say save the trophy for that.

  • Mark K | March 30, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    Mt. St. Mary’s – 2008 Dayton, Ohio Eastern Sub Sub Regional Champions!

  • VoodooChile | March 30, 2008 at 12:14 pm |

    the waistband on those shorts is beautiful

  • Paul Lukas | March 30, 2008 at 12:15 pm |

    Here’s another way to look at it: Every year at Wimbledon (and at most other major tennis tourneys), 128 players make the men’s draw. You could, if you wanted, view that as four separate 32-man brackets, but that’s bogus and willful — it’s actually one 128-man draw. If you’re one of the four remaining players, you haven’t “won” anything, and you’re sure as shit not the “champion” of anything — you’ve simply made it to the semi-finals. Is that good? Damn right it’s good. But it sure doesn’t merit a special cap, much less a freakin’ trophy.

    Teams that have made it to the Final Four aren’t “champions” of anything. They’ve simply made it to the semifinals. To accept them as “champions” of anything — especially of something as arbitrary as the Midwest Region (which, as pointed out in comment #23, a team can belong to one year and then belong to a different made-up region the next year) — is to buy into the corporate-marketing bullshit that makes it so hard to watch sports these days without rolling your eyes.

  • Christopher | March 30, 2008 at 12:16 pm |

    Another thing I really dislike about the whole “regional champion” and thing is it conjures up this modern notion that “everyone is a winner.”

    Hey- you made it to 8th place, you get a trophy!

    There is one Champion of College Basketball. That will be decided on April 7th.

  • Stevo | March 30, 2008 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”244264″]
    Hey- you made it to 8th place, you get a trophy![/quote]

    8th place teams have been getting trophies in high school sports forever, it’s not a “Modern” concept. The same with Regional Champions, they have been getting t-shirts, hats, and cutting down the nets for as long as I can remember. You go to any college arena (except Pauley) and you will see banners for making the tournament, making the Sweet 16, making the Elite 8, and Regional Championships.

  • CJ | March 30, 2008 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”244264″]There is one Champion of College Basketball. That will be decided on April 7th.[/quote]
    Coincidentally, my birthday.

    I have a Phillies Division Champs hat (the locker room version), because I fear I might not ever see one for another 15 years.

    Although I was 3 when they last won the division, so I don’t know if that counts as “seeing.”

  • Neil | March 30, 2008 at 12:31 pm |

    Glad to see some hockey fans sticking up for the only sport worth watching come spring. We’re all entitled to our opinions, but it’s beyond me that someone could find an Opening Day scrimmage more entertaining than a playoff race barn-burner like Canucks/Flames tonight, or Canes/Capitals on Tuesday.

    Though, as an Oilers fan, I’d be fine with a Spanish Flu outbreak hitting GM Place sometime today.

  • =bg= | March 30, 2008 at 12:34 pm |

    I don’t follow NCAAs closely- but it seems like the term ‘sweet 16’ has been used a long time- but isn’t ‘elite 8’ a more recent term?

  • Stevo | March 30, 2008 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”244264″]
    There is one Champion of College Basketball. That will be decided on April 7th.[/quote]

    Actually, there are 16 champions of college basketball each year (6 NCAA, 4 NAIA, 6 NJCAA), but who’s counting?

  • Stevo | March 30, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”244268″]I don’t follow NCAAs closely- but it seems like the term ‘sweet 16’ has been used a long time- but isn’t ‘elite 8’ a more recent term?[/quote]

    The Elite Eight originated with the Illinois High School Association in 1956.

  • LI Phil | March 30, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    heh…good posts today

    (1) there is ONLY one correct way to wear a cap

    PERIOD

    (2) i think not only should EVERY team who makes the NCAA tourney get a ribbon or trophy or some other recognition, everyone who makes a team, cheers, sits in the stands, watches on tv, etc. etc. deserves recognition…maybe a plaque or banner or something…everyone is a winner right?

    WRONG

    life is hard…life sucks sometimes, and sometimes you get the shit kicked out of you (either literally or figuratively), and there are always going to be winners and losers…if you win, that’s great and that’s why you play the game…if you lose, you suck it up and get over it and try to win next time

    there is no crying in baseball, and there are sure as shit, imho at least, NOT 4 champions in the NCAA div I mens basketball tourney

    there is ONE champion, t/b/d monday next

    you don’t deserve a cap, trophy, piece of net or anything else YET…be the “winner” of the “final four” (ie national champion) and then you can have a ribbon, t-shirt or cap, and you can wear your cap BACKWARDS for all i care…you’d be WRONG, of course, but you can wear it that way if ya think it looks good on you

  • Eric B | March 30, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    i made it out of the bathroom in less than 45 minutes this morning.

    my wife presented me with a cap and a trophy and allowed me to cut down the shower curtain.

  • Stevo | March 30, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”244275″]i made it out of the bathroom in less than 45 minutes this morning.

    my wife presented me with a cap and a trophy and allowed me to cut down the shower curtain.[/quote]

    I won a State Championship and all I got was a medal and a certificate.

  • Duckfan | March 30, 2008 at 1:06 pm |

    you can wear your cap BACKWARDS for all i care…you’d be WRONG, of course

    There is no WRONG way to wear a hat.

  • Nicholas Bean | March 30, 2008 at 1:12 pm |

    I just want to know what’s going on with the guys ear…is it folded over? Is it really that large? No wonder he straps it down with a headband!

  • John in Athens | March 30, 2008 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”244267″]Glad to see some hockey fans sticking up for the only sport worth watching come spring.[/quote]

    Mother Nature disagress with you and so do I.

  • LI Phil | March 30, 2008 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”244278″]you can wear your cap BACKWARDS for all i care…you’d be WRONG, of course

    There is no WRONG way to wear a hat.[/quote]

    well i don’t know about a hat, but i guess im wrong about a cap…

    how to wear a new era cap

    /proof i was wrong

  • Dave | March 30, 2008 at 1:22 pm |

    The trophies make sense. The NCAA gives out gold, silver and bronze trophies to the top 3 teams in each sport (except football). Since there is no consolation game in basketball anymore both teams not reaching the finals would get a bronze trophy anyway for third place. The loser of the championship gets a silver plated trophy and the winner gets a good plated trophy. So in a sense they aren’t really giving out the trophies for winning the region since two of those teams would be getting that trophy at some point down the road.

  • Christopher | March 30, 2008 at 1:40 pm |

    Its all sort of like baseball’s “Wild Card Champions”, eh?

  • Stevo | March 30, 2008 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”244283″]Its all sort of like baseball’s “Wild Card Champions”, eh?[/quote]

    The difference is that UCLA actually finished first in something, that something being the West Region. It’s not an oxymoron like the phrase Wild Card Champion is.

  • LI Phil | March 30, 2008 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”244284″][quote comment=”244283″]Its all sort of like baseball’s “Wild Card Champions”, eh?[/quote]

    The difference is that UCLA actually finished first in something, that something being the West Region. It’s not an oxymoron like the phrase Wild Card Champion is.[/quote]

    i don’t want to get into semantics with y’all, and technically stevo is correct…FUCLA is the ‘west region champion,’ but i agree with paul’s analogy of a tennis tourney…in my book UCLA and NC (and later today, i memphis and kansas [i think]) will be the four SEMI=FINALISTS in a 64 65 team tourney…call the brackets ‘regions’ if you will, but after today, there will be nothing more (imho) than 4 teams (semi-finalists) in the ncaa tourney…not four individual champions of regions (which, yes, technically they are)

    and i just don’t think semifinalists deserve a ribbon

  • Stevo | March 30, 2008 at 1:54 pm |

    Oh, and if you have the D-I tournament for acknowleging 4 Regional Champions, you’ll really hate D-II cause they have 8 Regional Champions in their tournament.

  • Matt the Athenian | March 30, 2008 at 2:24 pm |

    Paul, has your little birdie give you any more info regarding the Braves’ blue alts tonight? Still look like a go?

  • Teebz | March 30, 2008 at 2:31 pm |

    Hey all!

    Personally, the standards in which we reward mediocrity in today’s society have gone up considerably. These “kids” in the NCAA tournament have to face reality at some point, and that reality is that mediocre simply isn’t good enough. Rewarding them for being 8th best is something the SCHOOL should do, not the NCAA. Do you really think all the schools are saying “We want to be the Midwest Regional Champion this year. That’s good enough for us. We don’t need an NCAA Championship banner or the benefits that come with it”?

    The NCAA is promoting mediocrity. Nothing more, and nothing less.

    By the way, in my only stance on this matter, hockey playoffs in the spring are 100% better than the first 160 MLB games. I prefer to see players sacrificing everything for the big prize. But I do hate that they give out corporate logo hats for the Eastern and Western Conference champions.

    Next time, donate the money and/or clothing to needy children. It would be much better, especially when every single NHL player can afford a $20 ballcap.

  • Matt the Athenian | March 30, 2008 at 2:34 pm |

    Not exactly uni-related, but is anyone else annoyed as hell by the horn at the Texas-Memphis game? I’m sitting here writing a paper with the game in the background and every 30 seconds I swear I hear a car alarm coming from right outside…

  • Eric B | March 30, 2008 at 2:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”244276″][quote comment=”244275″]i made it out of the bathroom in less than 45 minutes this morning.

    my wife presented me with a cap and a trophy and allowed me to cut down the shower curtain.[/quote]

    I won a State Championship and all I got was a medal and a certificate.[/quote]

    big deal. my parents went to breckenridge and all i got was this lousy t-shirt.

    (i actually had a shirt that said that when i was little)

    someone earlier posted that only four teams win regionals each year. that sounds nice but if you say it like, “that’s been done forty times in the last ten years,” that’s not so impressive.

  • Stevo | March 30, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”244292″]Not exactly uni-related, but is anyone else annoyed as hell by the horn at the Texas-Memphis game? I’m sitting here writing a paper with the game in the background and every 30 seconds I swear I hear a car alarm coming from right outside…[/quote]

    Detroit has the same horn. Since they’re football stadiums, they don’t have the same kind of in-house horns you see at regular basketball or hockey arenas, so they’re using the horns built into the shot clocks for all horn signaling. It sounds like a sick goat, but it gets the job done in this case.

  • Jeremy | March 30, 2008 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”244267″]Glad to see some hockey fans sticking up for the only sport worth watching come spring. We’re all entitled to our opinions, but it’s beyond me that someone could find an Opening Day scrimmage more entertaining than a playoff race barn-burner like Canucks/Flames tonight, or Canes/Capitals on Tuesday.

    Though, as an Oilers fan, I’d be fine with a Spanish Flu outbreak hitting GM Place sometime today.[/quote]
    Don’t forget Pens-Rangers right now and tommorow night.

  • =bg= | March 30, 2008 at 3:51 pm |

    Watching the A’s @ Giants today, the final pre-season. The Giants may be bad- but we DO still have the nicest ballpark IMO.

    They’ve taken down all the Bonds stuff as we know…

    But will they retire….his number?

  • Sean | March 30, 2008 at 4:19 pm |

    To the people complaining about regional championship gear, I’d better not catch any of you wearing a “2009 Gator Bowl Champions” shirt or hat next year. A regional championship is MUCH more of an accomplishment than a victory in a second-tier bowl game.

  • James Craven | March 30, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    Hey, watch it. Paul might replace these comments with a pentagram or something!

  • Max | March 30, 2008 at 4:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”244230″]The hats aren’t even the worst part…

    If I was a coach, I would refuse to accept this.[/quote]

    In this day and age of Political Correctness, everybody has to be rewarded for their effort, even the losers.

    Remember, everybody is a winner and gets a trophy because we don’t want to hurt anybody’s self esteem.

    [/sarcasm]

  • Paul Lukas | March 30, 2008 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”244308″]To the people complaining about regional championship gear, I’d better not catch any of you wearing a “2009 Gator Bowl Champions” shirt or hat next year. A regional championship is MUCH more of an accomplishment than a victory in a second-tier bowl game.[/quote]

    I think I can pretty fucking well guarantee that I will not wear any Gator Bowl gear anytime soon….

  • James Craven | March 30, 2008 at 4:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”244292″]“Not exactly uni-related, but is anyone else annoyed as hell by the horn at the Texas-Memphis game? I’m sitting here writing a paper with the game in the background and every 30 seconds I swear I hear a car alarm coming from right outside…”[/quote]

    I’m actually annoyed by the use of the black curtains at each end of Reliant Stadium.

  • BuckeyeMark | March 30, 2008 at 4:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”244292″]Not exactly uni-related, but is anyone else annoyed as hell by the horn at the Texas-Memphis game? I’m sitting here writing a paper with the game in the background and every 30 seconds I swear I hear a car alarm coming from right outside…[/quote]

    agreed! there’s no reason Memphis should be playing an away game since they are a one seed, and then there is this horn blaring. horrible.

  • wescovington | March 30, 2008 at 4:37 pm |

    The NCAA has called the four regions in the men’s basketball tournaments by various names over the years, but “Southwest” has never been one.

    Being a regional champ has been a big deal since the NCAA adopted its Final Four format. It meant more when the regions were actually arranged geographically, but it’s still an impressive accomplishment. I don’t think George Mason is going to toss back its Final Four appearance.

  • Max | March 30, 2008 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”244256″]When did people start the hate? I was completely surprised to see someone up in arms about cutting down the nets— it’s a tradition! And since when was advancing to the Final Four not as big a deal?

    Should we get rid of Conference trophies in major sports? Chide the NFC and AFC champs for enjoying winning their conference, and to suck it up for the Big Game in two weeks?

    Though the four teams advancing in college basketball this weekend aren’t literally in the championship game, making the Final Four is on par with making the title game in other sports.

    Besides, they’re kids. Let them enjoy it.[/quote]

    Go for it all or get nothing.

    In the NHL, players think it is a jinx to even touch the Conference Champions trophy, much less accept it and parade around with it.

    They keep their focus on the ultimate prize, the Stanley Cup.

    Let me ask you…

    You go into an arena or a museum and look at a school’s or team’s trophies. Do you really give a
    sh!t about conference or conference tournament or region trophy is there? No, you do not. The only ones that draw your attention are the Championship trophies.

  • Mike | March 30, 2008 at 4:44 pm |

    How about NCAA baseball? 16 Regional Champions? Then 8 “Super-Regionals”? Eventually someone wins the whole damn tourney. How many championship t-shirts and hats can you get by the end of the season?

  • Stevo | March 30, 2008 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”244318″]
    Let me ask you…

    You go into an arena or a museum and look at a school’s or team’s trophies. Do you really give a
    sh!t about conference or conference tournament or region trophy is there? No, you do not. The only ones that draw your attention are the Championship trophies.[/quote]

    Everytime I go to Hilton Coliseum, I look up in the rafters for the same banners each time: Iowa State Mens Gymnastics National Champions, Womens Basketball Elite Eight, and Mens Basketball Elite Eight. And whenever I go to my old high school I am taken back by just how many conference championships we have won over the years, as well as the banner for making the State Tournament in Volleyball and Girls Basketball.

    So yes, I do give a poop about those things, because they still mean something to the communities.

  • Jerico | March 30, 2008 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”244292″]Not exactly uni-related, but is anyone else annoyed as hell by the horn at the Texas-Memphis game? I’m sitting here writing a paper with the game in the background and every 30 seconds I swear I hear a car alarm coming from right outside…[/quote]
    Well, it’s distinctive. I grew up in an era where not every arena/stadium had the same E-pitch horn as everybody else and I kinda liked that; you knew where the games were being played. I watched Denver Nuggets and Colorado Avalanche games at the old McNichols Sports Arena, which had the most godawful-sounding horn/buzzer/pitch around; it sounded something like a goose getting its feathers plucked.

    And if you look at footage from Christian Laettner’s “Shot” in 1992 in Philadelphia, listen to the horn–or whatever that pitch is supposed to be.

  • Matt the Athenian | March 30, 2008 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”244311″][quote comment=”244308″]To the people complaining about regional championship gear, I’d better not catch any of you wearing a “2009 Gator Bowl Champions” shirt or hat next year. A regional championship is MUCH more of an accomplishment than a victory in a second-tier bowl game.[/quote]

    I think I can pretty fucking well guarantee that I will not wear any Gator Bowl gear anytime soon….[/quote]
    I agree that bowl-mania can be a little much, but I have a slightly different take on this type of thing. Here at UGA, when we win a big game, I typically get the victory t-shirt. I got one for our victory over GA Tech my freshman year, I got the Chick-Fil-A Bowl shirt in 2006 (mostly because I was there with my dad in the student section for a great comeback and a surprise end to what had been an awful season), I gave my sister the victory shirt for the Auburn game at Christmas in 2006 (mostly to piss off her Auburn-alum husband) and this year I got the Florida and Sugar Bowl victory shirts. To me it’s definitely not about the games being championships, but it’s more about having a memento to remember them by.

  • Paul Lukas | March 30, 2008 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”244321″][quote comment=”244318″]
    Let me ask you…

    You go into an arena or a museum and look at a school’s or team’s trophies. Do you really give a
    sh!t about conference or conference tournament or region trophy is there? No, you do not. The only ones that draw your attention are the Championship trophies.[/quote]

    Everytime I go to Hilton Coliseum, I look up in the rafters for the same banners each time: Iowa State Mens Gymnastics National Champions, Womens Basketball Elite Eight, and Mens Basketball Elite Eight. And whenever I go to my old high school I am taken back by just how many conference championships we have won over the years, as well as the banner for making the State Tournament in Volleyball and Girls Basketball.

    So yes, I do give a poop about those things, because they still mean something to the communities.[/quote]

    The difference, which so many of you are either failing or refusing to grasp, is that a conference is a REAL DESIGNATION, comprised of teams who play against each other all season, the same teams every year, etc., whereas the makeup of an NCAA regional bracket is COMPLETELY ARBITRARY, plus it changes from year to year. You can’t be the “champion” or something that (a) doesn’t really exist in the practical sense of the term, and (b) is only a warm-up for the REAL championship. To pretend otherwise is to simply buy into a bogus marketing scheme.

    Jeez.

  • Andrew | March 30, 2008 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”244241″]I understand the anti-hat sentiment, but why is such a damper put on accepting a trophy, and being happy that you just accomplished something.I understand it’s in a human beings competitive nature to not get complacent and strive for more, but let’s be honest, UNC and UCLA accomplished something last night that only two other teams will this season. It’s pretty damn impressive to make the final four when you consider that Divison 1 basketball has over 300 teams, so to say that a coach shouldn’t accept a trophy, or players, who are in the age range of 18-22, shouldn’t celebrate their accomplishments is pretty ridiculous. People need to realize that sports is no different than anything else in life. If someone here got the job they really wanted, after beating out over 300 people, they would celebrate, right? So why should these student-athletes be any different?[/quote]

    If a school wants to celebrate their accomplishment by cutting down nets or hanging a banner in their gym commemorating NCAA appearances, by all means they should. My problem with the trophy is that the NCAA is cheapening the championship trophy by giving out these “regional championship” trophies which are nearly identical to the trophies they award for national championships. For the NCAA to issue memorabilia and propagate the idea of an arbitrary “championship” (as others above me have pointed out) is ridiculous.

  • Max | March 30, 2008 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”244321″][quote comment=”244318″]
    Let me ask you…

    You go into an arena or a museum and look at a school’s or team’s trophies. Do you really give a
    sh!t about conference or conference tournament or region trophy is there? No, you do not. The only ones that draw your attention are the Championship trophies.[/quote]

    Everytime I go to Hilton Coliseum, I look up in the rafters for the same banners each time: Iowa State Mens Gymnastics National Champions, Womens Basketball Elite Eight, and Mens Basketball Elite Eight. And whenever I go to my old high school I am taken back by just how many conference championships we have won over the years, as well as the banner for making the State Tournament in Volleyball and Girls Basketball.

    So yes, I do give a poop about those things, because they still mean something to the communities.[/quote]

    National Championships yes……

    The rest, nope.

    See entry #57.

    Does Kentucky hang Elite Eight banners up among their 7 NCAA Titles banners?

    No……….

  • Stevo | March 30, 2008 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”244326″][quote comment=”244321″][quote comment=”244318″]
    Let me ask you…

    You go into an arena or a museum and look at a school’s or team’s trophies. Do you really give a
    sh!t about conference or conference tournament or region trophy is there? No, you do not. The only ones that draw your attention are the Championship trophies.[/quote]

    Everytime I go to Hilton Coliseum, I look up in the rafters for the same banners each time: Iowa State Mens Gymnastics National Champions, Womens Basketball Elite Eight, and Mens Basketball Elite Eight. And whenever I go to my old high school I am taken back by just how many conference championships we have won over the years, as well as the banner for making the State Tournament in Volleyball and Girls Basketball.

    So yes, I do give a poop about those things, because they still mean something to the communities.[/quote]

    National Championships yes……

    The rest, nope.

    See entry #57.

    Does Kentucky hang Elite Eight banners up among their 7 NCAA Titles banners?

    No……….[/quote]

    The Kentucky community might think that it’s “only” the Elite Eight, but to Iowa State it is a big deal, so I would think that Cyclone fans like seeing that particular banner.

  • Sports Tsar | March 30, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    how dare you speak ill of Lorenzo Mata-Real!

    George
    http://sportstsar.co...

  • Peligro | March 30, 2008 at 5:37 pm |

    Speaking of buying into bogus marketing schemes. How much is a lifetime Uniwatchblog membership?

  • wescovington | March 30, 2008 at 5:48 pm |

    I think the regional championships can be looked at as a mixture of “bogus marketing” and historical artifice.

    For many years, if a team lost its first game in the regional, there would be a consolation game. So the regional was looked at as a mini-tournament. Those games were dispensed of after 1975. The national consolation game was gotten rid of after 1981.

  • Michael Wing | March 30, 2008 at 6:02 pm |

    I’m going to quote part of a post I made earlier today, because I accidentally put it onto the Saturday column. Haven’t seen any other comments on this subject, so I’ll post it again, hoping for your thoughts.

    A mini-rant about standardized branding. For how many years has the NCAA been laying down generic court colors for the regionals? Last year, I believe that the eight sites (men + women) were all blue with white letters. This year, black with blue. And just to make it even more bland, they had to use a standard, stock fonts — on the Civil Rights Game comments, someone referred to it as the “lolcat” font.

    For me, part of the fun each year has been the colorful diversity of the venues. (I know they’ve changed the courts for the Final Four for years, but I still enjoy seeing the flashback to the NC State-Houston game played in New Mexico — with “LOBOS” clearly marked on the endline. Why does every court now have to look identical? We get it; they’re NCAA sites. But the bottom line: Bland. Boring. Ugly.

  • Mike Engle | March 30, 2008 at 6:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”244334″]Speaking of buying into bogus marketing schemes. How much is a lifetime Uniwatchblog membership?[/quote]
    The membership is pretty much dead. It’s just that the card costs $15. To some people, it’s worth it to have a cool little card in your wallet to prove you “Get It(tm).” No more buying into the Uni Watch Profile Series, no more renting Our Faithful Narrator in your town, and no more bonus entries in raffles.

  • JohnnyO | March 30, 2008 at 6:13 pm |

    test??

  • JohnnyO | March 30, 2008 at 6:17 pm |

    I think the Championship gear for “non championship” events is relative. For instance I would love to wear a Milwaukee Brewers Wild Card hat this year, and that’s because the Crew have not been to the playoffs since 1982. But, for Yankees fans, wearing a Wild Card hat is embarrassing, because they expect so much more. So even though the Brew Makers didn’t win their division or anything, I would still proudly wear a Wild Card hat.

    As for the NCAA Basketball Tournament, there is no way a team should cut down nets and have “championship” shirts/hats/trophies for making it to the final four. Paul’s example of Wimbledon was perfect. If you look at their bracket every year, it is very long and doesn’t split four ways. The final four teams should not get anything because they have not won anything yet.

  • LI Phil | March 30, 2008 at 6:31 pm |

    [quote]The final four teams should not get anything because they have not won anything yet.[/quote]

    thank you johnny o!

    at the risk of repeating this ad infinitum, i think we can safely say we’re divided into two fairly distinct groups…and…while i didn’t check each and every post…i’d be willing to bet it breaks down somewhat along these lines…

    ‘big city/market folks’ who, perhaps because we’re spoiled or perhaps because we place value ONLY upon winning the big prize, we are unimpressed or at least dismissive of those who value one playoff appearance or one elite eight appearance in their lifetimes (moi)

    versus

    ‘small city/market’ types who, through no fault of their own, are not as blessed with championships, talent, etc. and for whom ANY ‘championship’…no matter how small…is a great source of pride and a community rallying point

    i forgot who said it, but they said it well: do you think any YANKEE fan is walking around with a “2007 wild card champ” (if such thing even exists?) cap??? when they have 26 rings??? i think not…but by the same token, i bet johnny o or other brewer fans would take any playoff appearance as a great sign of accomplishment

    does that make a fan in either locale any more or less of a fan or person? no? but it’s really all a matter of perspective

    im quite sure tiger woods is pretty pissed off by finishing second in two majors last year while most any other golfer would view that as QUITE an achievement…do you think the pats view their 18-1 season as a success or a disappointment??? think a lions fan would trade places in a heartbeat?

    on another note…i still think we reward mediocrity far too much in this day and age…but that’s a topic for another day

    and the final four teams should not get anything because they have not won anything yet

  • Stevo | March 30, 2008 at 6:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”244340″]I’m going to quote part of a post I made earlier today, because I accidentally put it onto the Saturday column. Haven’t seen any other comments on this subject, so I’ll post it again, hoping for your thoughts.

    A mini-rant about standardized branding. For how many years has the NCAA been laying down generic court colors for the regionals? Last year, I believe that the eight sites (men + women) were all blue with white letters. This year, black with blue. And just to make it even more bland, they had to use a standard, stock fonts — on the Civil Rights Game comments, someone referred to it as the “lolcat” font.

    For me, part of the fun each year has been the colorful diversity of the venues. (I know they’ve changed the courts for the Final Four for years, but I still enjoy seeing the flashback to the NC State-Houston game played in New Mexico — with “LOBOS” clearly marked on the endline. Why does every court now have to look identical? We get it; they’re NCAA sites. But the bottom line: Bland. Boring. Ugly.[/quote]

    The NCAA’s deal with Connor Sport Court expanded to Regionals last year, so it’s just been the last 2 tournaments.

  • Mike Engle | March 30, 2008 at 7:01 pm |

    Not entirely uni related, but nice sign here by a Davidson fan. Even though the word COLLEGE has a curious color by letter choice, the maker made sure he got the GOOGLE color scheme correct. I say this fan Gets It.

  • Dom | March 30, 2008 at 7:35 pm |

    Vince Young has a tattoo that is like a nameplate

    http://cdn.faniq.com...(41).png

  • Dom | March 30, 2008 at 7:37 pm |

    Heres the Vince Young tattoo again hopefully

    http://cdn.faniq.com...(41).png

  • Dom | March 30, 2008 at 7:37 pm |

    Just go here for the Vince Young tattoo

    http://sportsillustr...

  • =bg= | March 30, 2008 at 7:41 pm |

    “Nationals Park” opening tonight. No corporate name? What?

  • JohnnyO | March 30, 2008 at 7:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”244347″][quote]The final four teams should not get anything because they have not won anything yet.[/quote]

    thank you johnny o!

    at the risk of repeating this ad infinitum, i think we can safely say we’re divided into two fairly distinct groups…and…while i didn’t check each and every post…i’d be willing to bet it breaks down somewhat along these lines…

    ‘big city/market folks’ who, perhaps because we’re spoiled or perhaps because we place value ONLY upon winning the big prize, we are unimpressed or at least dismissive of those who value one playoff appearance or one elite eight appearance in their lifetimes (moi)

    versus

    ‘small city/market’ types who, through no fault of their own, are not as blessed with championships, talent, etc. and for whom ANY ‘championship’…no matter how small…is a great source of pride and a community rallying point

    i forgot who said it, but they said it well: do you think any YANKEE fan is walking around with a “2007 wild card champ” (if such thing even exists?) cap??? when they have 26 rings??? i think not…but by the same token, i bet johnny o or other brewer fans would take any playoff appearance as a great sign of accomplishment

    does that make a fan in either locale any more or less of a fan or person? no? but it’s really all a matter of perspective

    im quite sure tiger woods is pretty pissed off by finishing second in two majors last year while most any other golfer would view that as QUITE an achievement…do you think the pats view their 18-1 season as a success or a disappointment??? think a lions fan would trade places in a heartbeat?

    on another note…i still think we reward mediocrity far too much in this day and age…but that’s a topic for another day

    and the final four teams should not get anything because they have not won anything yet[/quote]

    You and I are on the exact same page, LI Phil…

    And although not uni-related, I was bored at work today. (Golf pro working at a course that isn’t opened yet) and I recovered some stat tracking I did on Tiger Woods a few months ago. He has 177 top ten finishes out of 220 starts, and that my friends, means he has placed in the top ten 80.4% of the time. And has won 62 times out of 220, making his winning percentage (which we never be talking about in golf in the first place) is 28.1%.

    Now I realize these stats are a bit off since this info was done a few months ago, but even more impressively since I did the stats, Tiger has of course had all top tens and even a few wins, so those stats are on the low end.

    Here are other golf greats for comparison:

    Ben Hogan 20.7% (61 of 294)
    Byron Nelson 17.8% (50 of 281)
    Sam Snead 14.9% (81 of 549
    Jack Nicklaus 12.2% (73 of 594)
    Billy Casper 9.2% (51 of 556)
    Arnold Palmer 8.4% (62 of 734)

    Granted, Tiger is only 32, and guys like Nicklaus and Palmer are still playing. But nevertheless, what Tiger is doing is unbelievable, and people concentrate too much on winning, and say, “Tiger lost this week.” He didn’t “lose”, he “placed”. Even more impressive is what he is doing with top ten finishes.

    Sorry for the rant, but I just think it is really sweet what Mr. Woods is doing right now in the sport of golf.

  • =bg= | March 30, 2008 at 7:49 pm |

    SPEAKING of naming rights…HowboutdemCowboys.

    http://deadspin.com/...

  • Patrick | March 30, 2008 at 7:56 pm |

    I was going to point out the Frozen Four hats, but I see that’s been covered. (Ha!)

    I do have a somewhat related question, that I’m hoping somebody may shed some light on. I was watching the ND/UNH game on Friday, and noticed that Jerry Pollastrone has an interesting anomaly in his name plate, where the R in his name is filled in (screen grab here). This doesn’t seem to be a UNH thing, as Bobby Butler has an open R in his name plate (screen grab here), for example, and I at least didn’t see any others filled in.

    Is anybody familiar with why that is? Is that a defect, or does Pollastrone color in the R, or something else?

  • Brad | March 30, 2008 at 7:57 pm |

    On the lame ass “Champions” caps issue….I was very happy last year when the National League Championship trophy was presented to the Rockies, they did not wear the goofy caps and instead put on their regular caps with a World Series patch. Looked much better.

  • Mike | March 30, 2008 at 7:58 pm |

    Braves wearing an all-blue alternate. As solid alternates go, the jersey is just fine, save the also blue numbers with white outlines.

    They’re also wearing an all-blue hat (no red bill). It looks kind of cool. Still, I wish teams would stick to their normal threads for opening day.

  • scott | March 30, 2008 at 8:04 pm |

    Braves new uniforms: boring!

  • Failos2002 | March 30, 2008 at 8:06 pm |

    Sorry if this has been talked about already, but I was at the LA Coliseum last night (with 115,299 of my closest friends), and it didn’t look to me like the Dodgers’ uniforms were any different than usual. Weren’t they supposed to wear some kind of not-really-1958-throwbacks?

    It was really a cool experience, very surreal, especially as I have been to several USC football games there. Cheap-seat Dodger fans, however, are still a-holes, no matter what the venue. Still, glad I was there.

  • =bg= | March 30, 2008 at 8:07 pm |

    Atlanta in blue:
    http://img.photobuck...

  • Chris ATL | March 30, 2008 at 8:07 pm |

    The Braves Blue looks like a batting practice jersey the logo looks HUGE should have had the red piping don’t think they are going to get the sale numbers that were hoping for but we will see

  • Mike N. | March 30, 2008 at 8:09 pm |

    Braves new uniforms: MUCH BETTER THAN THEIR USUAL ROAD GRAYS! Here’s an article about them

  • Josh | March 30, 2008 at 8:09 pm |

    BRAVES UNIS ARE SICK!!!!

  • LI Phil | March 30, 2008 at 8:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”244368″]Braves wearing an all-blue alternate. As solid alternates go, the jersey is just fine, save the also blue numbers with white outlines.

    They’re also wearing an all-blue hat (no red bill). It looks kind of cool. Still, I wish teams would stick to their normal threads for opening day.[/quote]

    so…the braves are wearing home sunday reds blues now

    meh…i wasn’t in love with the reds, but these suck…as in they’re lame…i DO like the blue lettering w/white outline however…better than if it were red

    i agree that for opening day night, teams should stick to their ‘regular’ unis…nats look super sharp in their crisp whites/red caps

  • =bg= | March 30, 2008 at 8:19 pm |

    A natilly-clad GWB with his name stitched on the jacket. Just think how much uni-loot he has accumalated in two terms.

  • Matt the Athenian | March 30, 2008 at 8:20 pm |

    I really like the new Braves unis, though I too am not quite sure about the blue numbers yet.

  • Chris A | March 30, 2008 at 8:23 pm |

    Perez forgot to take the tag off of his uni

  • Mike N. | March 30, 2008 at 8:23 pm |

    Anyone agree that Odalis Perez is having some tag issues with his jersey? Looks like he left the price tag on his gold necklace.

  • A.J. Zydzik | March 30, 2008 at 8:23 pm |

    whats that huge tag looking thing on odalis perez’s neck? it doesnt look like it is from his jersey?

  • Chris ATL | March 30, 2008 at 8:24 pm |

    To many people in the Braves organization are too traditional (Bobby Cox) It took forever for them to allow our catchers wear the hockey style face mask despite the safety improvements we were one of the last teams to even have alternates and this one just proves nothing has change with the new owners we have had these same uniforms for 21 years I know there are some teams that haven’t changed in about 100 years(Yankees) but those teams have tradition a look at the Atlanta Braves uniform history before 1987 there was no tradition hopefully there is something in the works that hasn’t finished the MLB approval process and they are dropping the whole tomahawk thing and if it was for Deion Sanders we would not even have been doing it

  • Jordan | March 30, 2008 at 8:24 pm |

    The tag sticking out from Perez’s undershirt is driving me nuts.

  • Dave A | March 30, 2008 at 8:24 pm |

    No screen shot, but Washington P Odalis Perez has a tag sticking out of the left side of his collar.

  • Stuby | March 30, 2008 at 8:25 pm |

    Miller and Morgan are talking about the tag issues right now.

  • Mike N. | March 30, 2008 at 8:26 pm |

    …and right on cue, Jon & Joe just made mention of said tag

  • drizzle | March 30, 2008 at 8:26 pm |

    The tag is from the Nike undershirts that were also a problem last year.

  • LI Phil | March 30, 2008 at 8:27 pm |

    even morgan and miller have issues with perez’ tag

  • James Craven | March 30, 2008 at 8:27 pm |

    The Horse from Ren and Stimpy just called about the Braves’ new road navy-on-navy alts:

    [quote]“No sir, I don’t like it.”[/quote]

    Talk about the BBSS syndrome…

  • Mike Sanderson | March 30, 2008 at 8:28 pm |

    Braves jerseys are nothing special. Could have used more of a representative of the red though. I like the numbers. The hat is garbage.

  • =bg= | March 30, 2008 at 8:28 pm |

    what does the patch on the ATL sleeve mean?

    PEACH?

  • Cam | March 30, 2008 at 8:29 pm |

    I like the Atlanta blues. To me, it seems like they would work best as long as they only wear them at night. The blue numbers with just the outline only as well as Atlanta on the front – it just feels like a good night-only uniform to me.

  • TMcLaughlin | March 30, 2008 at 8:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”244368″]Braves wearing an all-blue alternate. As solid alternates go, the jersey is just fine, save the also blue numbers with white outlines.

    They’re also wearing an all-blue hat (no red bill). It looks kind of cool. Still, I wish teams would stick to their normal threads for opening day.[/quote]

    First they get rid of the vertically arched NOBs, now this. Still better than the red jerseys, but all in all, meh.

  • David | March 30, 2008 at 8:29 pm |

    Odalis Perez (Nats pitcher) is having tag problems…

  • Mike N. | March 30, 2008 at 8:30 pm |

    …and as far as memorial patches go, the tribute to Jim Beauchamp (BEACH) on the left sleeve of the new Braves’ unis looks pretty classy.

  • Josh Petty | March 30, 2008 at 8:30 pm |

    What does it say on the sleeves of the Braves’ jerseys? There’s something on the left sleeve

  • Chris ATH | March 30, 2008 at 8:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”244384″]To many people in the Braves organization are too traditional (Bobby Cox) It took forever for them to allow our catchers wear the hockey style face mask despite the safety improvements we were one of the last teams to even have alternates and this one just proves nothing has change with the new owners we have had these same uniforms for 21 years I know there are some teams that haven’t changed in about 100 years(Yankees) but those teams have tradition a look at the Atlanta Braves uniform history before 1987 there was no tradition hopefully there is something in the works that hasn’t finished the MLB approval process and they are dropping the whole tomahawk thing and if it was for Deion Sanders we would not even have been doing it[/quote]

    No chance in hell the Bravos drop the tomahawk. Not sure how long you’ve been in ATL but i’ve lived in GA my entire life and the grand majority of us love the tomahawk and the unis. And Bobby Cox has full rights to be traditional and not change the unis. They brought us 14 straight Division Championships didn’t they?

  • LI Phil | March 30, 2008 at 8:32 pm |

    and christian guzman is now the answer to the trivia question

  • Chris ATL | March 30, 2008 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”244392″]Braves jerseys are nothing special. Could have used more of a representative of the red though. I like the numbers. The hat is garbage.[/quote]
    Maybe they are “Ditching the RED”

  • =bg= | March 30, 2008 at 8:39 pm |

    the patch says BEACH.

  • Stuby | March 30, 2008 at 8:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”244304″]Watching the A’s @ Giants today, the final pre-season. The Giants may be bad- but we DO still have the nicest ballpark IMO.

    They’ve taken down all the Bonds stuff as we know…

    But will they retire….his number?[/quote]
    Let’s see if Bonds makes the HOF first. That is the standard for the Giants.

  • Dan | March 30, 2008 at 8:40 pm |

    I don’t like the Braves new alternates. The jerseys are just dull and the hats are the same

    Odalis Perez had tag issues and it was portrayed by Miller and Morgan

  • Teebz | March 30, 2008 at 8:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”244366″]I was going to point out the Frozen Four hats, but I see that’s been covered. (Ha!)

    I do have a somewhat related question, that I’m hoping somebody may shed some light on. I was watching the ND/UNH game on Friday, and noticed that Jerry Pollastrone has an interesting anomaly in his name plate, where the R in his name is filled in (screen grab here). This doesn’t seem to be a UNH thing, as Bobby Butler has an open R in his name plate (screen grab here), for example, and I at least didn’t see any others filled in.

    Is anybody familiar with why that is? Is that a defect, or does Pollastrone color in the R, or something else?[/quote]

    Looks like a botched lettering job to me.

  • Chad G | March 30, 2008 at 8:42 pm |

    Those Brave unis are crap in my opinion. To much blue. The piping the braves have on their other Unis is awsome, it should of been on these. Plus atlanta should be red with red numbers. The hat is ok, but I think it would look even better if the A had a red outline, like the BP cap.

  • Jordan | March 30, 2008 at 8:43 pm |

    Here’s to you, Nick Johnson. This Uniwatch poster recognizes your choice to look like a decent upstanding ballplayer.

    (and for your reward, you get the first RBI in Nats Park)

  • Mike N. | March 30, 2008 at 8:44 pm |

    I hope that they do ditch the red. I like the new understated blue road look. The Sunday home red unis coupled with the tomahawk through the A on the Sunday home cap is way too busy. I think if they used their normal home caps with the red jerseys, it may not cause as many headaches to look at.

  • Chris ATL | March 30, 2008 at 8:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”244400″]
    No chance in hell the Bravos drop the tomahawk. Not sure how long you’ve been in ATL but i’ve lived in GA my entire life and the grand majority of us love the tomahawk and the unis. And Bobby Cox has full rights to be traditional and not change the unis. They brought us 14 straight Division Championships didn’t they?[/quote]
    31 years Born and raised so I grew up with these same old uniforms and the ones before didn’t have the tomahawk on them that does mean you can’t still do the tomahawk chop but I have my reason for not supporting and this is not the place to discuss that I loved the Braves I cried in ’91 and I celebrated in ’95 and you are right Bobby Cox has the right to be a traditionalist but when your catcher is getting his head beat in when there is something available to keep him safer you let him wear it but old Bobby is coming around I just want some new uniforms so I can give my Braves my money instead of wearing my old jersey from ’95 that looks like one from 2008 thats all

  • LI Phil | March 30, 2008 at 8:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”244409″]Here’s to you, Nick Johnson. This Uniwatch poster recognizes your choice to look like a decent upstanding ballplayer.

    (and for your reward, you get the first RBI in Nats Park)[/quote]

    bryan’s favorite ‘beer league’ player looks pretty damn good so far, eh?

    testing francouer’s arm not once but twice!!!

  • Josh Petty | March 30, 2008 at 8:47 pm |

    The Nationals have red player number stickers on the back of their red helmets…Just noticed that on Austin Kearns’ helmet after he drove in NIck Johnson

  • Matt | March 30, 2008 at 8:47 pm |

    the new Braves alts are awesome…especially the hats…no frills

  • Stuby | March 30, 2008 at 8:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”244411″][quote comment=”244400″]
    No chance in hell the Bravos drop the tomahawk. Not sure how long you’ve been in ATL but i’ve lived in GA my entire life and the grand majority of us love the tomahawk and the unis. And Bobby Cox has full rights to be traditional and not change the unis. They brought us 14 straight Division Championships didn’t they?[/quote]
    31 years Born and raised so I grew up with these same old uniforms and the ones before didn’t have the tomahawk on them that does mean you can’t still do the tomahawk chop but I have my reason for not supporting and this is not the place to discuss that I loved the Braves I cried in ’91 and I celebrated in ’95 and you are right Bobby Cox has the right to be a traditionalist but when your catcher is getting his head beat in when there is something available to keep him safer you let him wear it but old Bobby is coming around I just want some new uniforms so I can give my Braves my money instead of wearing my old jersey from ’95 that looks like one from 2008 thats all[/quote]
    That’s, like, the longest sentence ever.

  • Josh Petty | March 30, 2008 at 8:49 pm |

    The Braves’ red alternates are still full price at the MLB store. I’m guessing the reds will be the home alternates and the blues will be the away ones.

  • Dan | March 30, 2008 at 8:49 pm |

    With those jerseys, Atlanta is the new ugly.

  • Mike N. | March 30, 2008 at 8:49 pm |

    I do agree with Chad G about the cap. I would like to see something like this (except navy instead of black, of course…but you get the idea… oh… and without the New Era flag) :)

  • =bg= | March 30, 2008 at 8:51 pm |
  • DP30 | March 30, 2008 at 8:51 pm |

    My favorite part of the Braves’ alternate uni is the cap. There’s historical precedent (check the Braves’ road unis from 1968-71 on “Dressed to the Nines”) and I just like the clean look of it, without the red brim. Perhaps add a thin red border to the “A”, but aside from that, it’s solid.

    I’m on the fence about the blue numbers on the jerseys and the blue “Atlanta” lettering. Maybe add some red outline, or go white-on-red. I like them much better than those red alternates they’ve had in recent years.

  • LI Phil | March 30, 2008 at 8:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”244415″][quote comment=”244411″][quote comment=”244400″]
    No chance in hell the Bravos drop the tomahawk. Not sure how long you’ve been in ATL but i’ve lived in GA my entire life and the grand majority of us love the tomahawk and the unis. And Bobby Cox has full rights to be traditional and not change the unis. They brought us 14 straight Division Championships didn’t they?[/quote]
    31 years Born and raised so I grew up with these same old uniforms and the ones before didn’t have the tomahawk on them that does mean you can’t still do the tomahawk chop but I have my reason for not supporting and this is not the place to discuss that I loved the Braves I cried in ’91 and I celebrated in ’95 and you are right Bobby Cox has the right to be a traditionalist but when your catcher is getting his head beat in when there is something available to keep him safer you let him wear it but old Bobby is coming around I just want some new uniforms so I can give my Braves my money instead of wearing my old jersey from ’95 that looks like one from 2008 thats all[/quote]
    That’s, like, the longest sentence ever.[/quote]

    it’s like a defective typewriter

  • JP | March 30, 2008 at 9:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”244325″]If a school wants to celebrate their accomplishment by cutting down nets or hanging a banner in their gym commemorating NCAA appearances, by all means they should. My problem with the trophy is that the NCAA is cheapening the championship trophy by giving out these “regional championship” trophies which are nearly identical to the trophies they award for national championships. For the NCAA to issue memorabilia and propagate the idea of an arbitrary “championship” (as others above me have pointed out) is ridiculous.[/quote]

    The NCAA has ALWAYS given trophies to the final four teams. They just started as 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th place trophies.

    When they eliminated the third place game, it just made more sense to give happy Final Four teams a trophy, and not give them to dejected kids to three teams who lost; one of which skipped town.

    Why is it wrong? The MLB have league championship trophies. The NHL has conference championship trophies. the NFL has conference championship trophies. The NBA has conference championship trophies.

  • JP | March 30, 2008 at 9:05 pm |

    The Braves blue jersey looks boring on the front.

    They should add the collar stripe their road jersey has, only put it in red. (they should put the number in red instead of blue, too).

    Also, the “Atlanta” logo on the front is WAY too big.

  • Mike N. | March 30, 2008 at 9:06 pm |

    Here’s one of those old Braves road caps circa 1969 or 1970. (I think this is a 1970 Topps card)

  • Stuby | March 30, 2008 at 9:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”244423″][quote comment=”244325″]If a school wants to celebrate their accomplishment by cutting down nets or hanging a banner in their gym commemorating NCAA appearances, by all means they should. My problem with the trophy is that the NCAA is cheapening the championship trophy by giving out these “regional championship” trophies which are nearly identical to the trophies they award for national championships. For the NCAA to issue memorabilia and propagate the idea of an arbitrary “championship” (as others above me have pointed out) is ridiculous.[/quote]

    The NCAA has ALWAYS given trophies to the final four teams. They just started as 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th place trophies.

    When they eliminated the third place game, it just made more sense to give happy Final Four teams a trophy, and not give them to dejected kids to three teams who lost; one of which skipped town.

    Why is it wrong? The MLB have league championship trophies. The NHL has conference championship trophies. the NFL has conference championship trophies. The NBA has conference championship trophies.[/quote]
    Because those are CONFERENCES and LEAGUES. I’ve got no problem with UCLA getting a Pac 10 Conference Championship trophy.

  • StoneRaizer | March 30, 2008 at 9:11 pm |

    I know I’m late to the Regional/Conference Championship thing, but as a Buffalo Bills fan I’m obligated to chime in.

    We lost four straight Super Bowls. Does anybody ever stop to realize that we won four straight AFC Championships? Does anybody care? No, the Buffalo Bills are known for losing the big game four straight years.

    I’m not bitter, I’m just adding another point to the whole “nobody cares what championships you win if you lose the biggest championship” debate.

  • chris | March 30, 2008 at 9:12 pm |

    Not uni-related, but I like the stadium. From above, the upper deck reminds me of the old Memorial Stadium in Baltimore, with the horseshoe shape. And straightaway center field reminds you of Griffith stadium a little.

  • David | March 30, 2008 at 9:13 pm |

    Admit it, the Braves’ blue alts could have been MUCH worse. During the pregame coverage, they showed Francoeur signing autographs in his BP jersey (navy w/red and white side panels), and I halfway thought they had decided to follow the Mariners and pull the BP’s into rotation as the alternate. Sure, they may have played the red down a bit too much with these, but at least they didn’t introduce a foreign color–like black or yellow–into their palette.

  • Forbesy | March 30, 2008 at 9:15 pm |

    i like the braves’ look. it’s surprisingly simple, which is refreshing to me. i’m always up for something new and crisp. i mean, we all think the UCLA unis are classic, right? less is more here.

    re: the regional hats – it’s almost like there’s so much media coverage that they have to give these kids something to do or wear, so they make the hats and t-shirts. and people buy them, of course. impulse buying at its best. going backwards, why not have pod hats? “we’re omaha pod co-champs! yippee!”

  • Robert | March 30, 2008 at 9:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”244422″][quote comment=”244415″][quote comment=”244411″][quote comment=”244400″]
    No chance in hell the Bravos drop the tomahawk. Not sure how long you’ve been in ATL but i’ve lived in GA my entire life and the grand majority of us love the tomahawk and the unis. And Bobby Cox has full rights to be traditional and not change the unis. They brought us 14 straight Division Championships didn’t they?[/quote]
    31 years Born and raised so I grew up with these same old uniforms and the ones before didn’t have the tomahawk on them that does mean you can’t still do the tomahawk chop but I have my reason for not supporting and this is not the place to discuss that I loved the Braves I cried in ’91 and I celebrated in ’95 and you are right Bobby Cox has the right to be a traditionalist but when your catcher is getting his head beat in when there is something available to keep him safer you let him wear it but old Bobby is coming around I just want some new uniforms so I can give my Braves my money instead of wearing my old jersey from ’95 that looks like one from 2008 thats all[/quote]
    That’s, like, the longest sentence ever.[/quote]

    it’s like a defective typewriter[/quote]

    Can someone summarize what he wrote? I am interested to know, but that sentence wore me out after the second line, and I had to give up on it.

  • Mike D | March 30, 2008 at 9:21 pm |

    I don’t like the Braves new alt. The numbers should be red, and the piping should be red outlined in white. The red alt is much better IMO. The solid blue hat looks good though. Is the ‘A’ outlined in red?

  • Mike N. | March 30, 2008 at 9:22 pm |

    One more article on the Braves alt road uniforms. Looks like the red Sunday home alts are here to stay.

  • Mark K | March 30, 2008 at 9:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”244431″]Not uni-related, but I like the stadium. From above, the upper deck reminds me of the old Memorial Stadium in Baltimore, with the horseshoe shape. And straightaway center field reminds you of Griffith stadium a little.[/quote]
    The behind-the-plate camera appears to have been mounted somewhere near the moon.

  • Josh Petty | March 30, 2008 at 9:25 pm |

    As of now, I’m not all that fond of the Braves’ new alternate unis either, but I’m not reasdy to pass judgement on them yet. When the Vancouver Canucks introduced their new Reebok Edge jerseys this year, I thought they were by far the ugliest in the National Hockey League. Now, they rank up there as one of my favorites. Before passing judgement on the new Braves look, just take some time, maybe it’ll grow on you.

  • Chris ATL | March 30, 2008 at 9:30 pm |

    I. Am. Sorry. Didn’t. Know. This. Was. An. English. Class? I. Thought. It. Was. Just. A. Comment. Section. My. Post. Was. A. Response. To. Some. One. Flame. On. Now. Peace.

  • JohnnyO | March 30, 2008 at 9:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”244440″][quote comment=”244431″]Not uni-related, but I like the stadium. From above, the upper deck reminds me of the old Memorial Stadium in Baltimore, with the horseshoe shape. And straightaway center field reminds you of Griffith stadium a little.[/quote]
    The behind-the-plate camera appears to have been mounted somewhere near the moon.[/quote]

    I’ve noticed that too tonight. The View is almost like an old-school video game. (“Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball” comes to mind) I don’t mind it, but it is gonna take some time to get used to.

  • Menelaos | March 30, 2008 at 9:38 pm |

    I’m on board with the new Braves Unis. I don’t really think you can put too much red in that though, it would really complicate a nice simple design.

    I think the biggest problem is the red piping on the pants, which don’t go with… anything else. If it were blue I think the whole thing would look amazing. A very plain hat but overall not a bad uni.

  • Ryan | March 30, 2008 at 9:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”244253″]If it works for the basketball Final Four, why not the hockey Frozen Four?[/quote]
    Boston College had these hats on as well tonight

  • scott | March 30, 2008 at 9:58 pm |

    Doing dark alternates is lazy, and looks like a batting practice jersey. Why not do something original like what the Phillies and Indians are doing this year, and at least look like a professional?

  • LI Phil | March 30, 2008 at 10:01 pm |

    not the best pic, but here’s odalis perez’ tag in action

  • LI Phil | March 30, 2008 at 10:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”244446″]I think the biggest problem is the red piping on the pants, which don’t go with… anything else. If it were blue I think the whole thing would look amazing. A very plain hat but overall not a bad uni.[/quote]

    excellent point

  • Mike N. | March 30, 2008 at 10:05 pm |

    Also not the best pic, but here is the first one I could find of the new Braves alts.

  • Patrick | March 30, 2008 at 10:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”244407″][quote comment=”244366″]I was going to point out the Frozen Four hats, but I see that’s been covered. (Ha!)

    I do have a somewhat related question, that I’m hoping somebody may shed some light on. I was watching the ND/UNH game on Friday, and noticed that Jerry Pollastrone has an interesting anomaly in his name plate, where the R in his name is filled in (screen grab here). This doesn’t seem to be a UNH thing, as Bobby Butler has an open R in his name plate (screen grab here), for example, and I at least didn’t see any others filled in.

    Is anybody familiar with why that is? Is that a defect, or does Pollastrone color in the R, or something else?[/quote]

    Looks like a botched lettering job to me.[/quote]

    Unless the uniforms were made by student volunteers, I’d think (or at least hope) that something like that wouldn’t get past QC from the manufacturer. How do you forget to cut out an R, especially if these things are done by machine?

  • Jesse H. | March 30, 2008 at 10:14 pm |

    Pena for Atlanta wears a two flapped helmet!

  • Andrew | March 30, 2008 at 10:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”244426″][quote comment=”244423″][quote comment=”244325″]If a school wants to celebrate their accomplishment by cutting down nets or hanging a banner in their gym commemorating NCAA appearances, by all means they should. My problem with the trophy is that the NCAA is cheapening the championship trophy by giving out these “regional championship” trophies which are nearly identical to the trophies they award for national championships. For the NCAA to issue memorabilia and propagate the idea of an arbitrary “championship” (as others above me have pointed out) is ridiculous.[/quote]

    The NCAA has ALWAYS given trophies to the final four teams. They just started as 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th place trophies.

    When they eliminated the third place game, it just made more sense to give happy Final Four teams a trophy, and not give them to dejected kids to three teams who lost; one of which skipped town.

    Why is it wrong? The MLB have league championship trophies. The NHL has conference championship trophies. the NFL has conference championship trophies. The NBA has conference championship trophies.[/quote]
    Because those are CONFERENCES and LEAGUES. I’ve got no problem with UCLA getting a Pac 10 Conference Championship trophy.[/quote]

    Thank you! Also, I would argue that it is okay to give out 2nd/3rd/4th place trophies after the fact; just don’t give out these preemptive regional trophies, then subsequently award the national title. What if everybody in the Olympic basketball tournament got a bronze medal before the semifnals, then before the championship two teams got silvers? It diminishes the value of the gold.

  • Wayne | March 30, 2008 at 10:22 pm |

    Dear Braves,

    Way to look ugly on Opening Day.

    Sincerely,

    Wayne

  • mtjaws | March 30, 2008 at 10:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”244340″]I’m going to quote part of a post I made earlier today, because I accidentally put it onto the Saturday column. Haven’t seen any other comments on this subject, so I’ll post it again, hoping for your thoughts.

    A mini-rant about standardized branding. For how many years has the NCAA been laying down generic court colors for the regionals? Last year, I believe that the eight sites (men + women) were all blue with white letters. This year, black with blue. And just to make it even more bland, they had to use a standard, stock fonts — on the Civil Rights Game comments, someone referred to it as the “lolcat” font.

    For me, part of the fun each year has been the colorful diversity of the venues. (I know they’ve changed the courts for the Final Four for years, but I still enjoy seeing the flashback to the NC State-Houston game played in New Mexico — with “LOBOS” clearly marked on the endline. Why does every court now have to look identical? We get it; they’re NCAA sites. But the bottom line: Bland. Boring. Ugly.[/quote]

    I also noticed that they don’t have any years on them either. Perhaps every regional site will get the same boring copy now, and when it returns to that venue, they won’t have to make a new one. I sure hope not, especially because the city/venue is difficult to read with that blue on black.

    I like how we can identify game locations from the color schemes in old highlights.

    Also, I like the Braves uniforms, especially the blue numbers.

  • Glenn | March 30, 2008 at 10:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”244367″]On the lame ass “Champions” caps issue….I was very happy last year when the National League Championship trophy was presented to the Rockies, they did not wear the goofy caps and instead put on their regular caps with a World Series patch. Looked much better.[/quote]

    alot of them were wearing the white NL Champions caps right after the game and in the locker room afterward. During the trophy presentation, I think they were all wearing the actual World Series caps tho.

  • Glenn | March 30, 2008 at 10:27 pm |

    And for the comments about the braves jerseys………the black numbers on the back make them look very cheap. Someone else already said it, but the first thing my wife and I thought was that they were batting practice jerseys.

  • Mike N. | March 30, 2008 at 10:44 pm |

    Navy blue numbers, Glenn. :)

  • AJ | March 30, 2008 at 10:48 pm |

    Anyone else notice that Ryan Zimmerman for the Nats was wearing a Cool Base uni?

    Kind of a weird choice with the weather so cold in DC.

  • =bg= | March 30, 2008 at 10:56 pm |

    RE: Post 160.

    I positively promise that the Giants will look uglier when playing LA on Monday. In fact, I bet they’re uglier for the next 161 games.

  • VoodooChile | March 30, 2008 at 10:58 pm |

    Brayan Pena and Willie Harris were both rockin double flapped battuing helmets tonight. First time other than in a little league game?

  • Mike D | March 30, 2008 at 10:58 pm |

    Don’t know if this has been mentioned, but this year’s Final Four team jerseys will be swoosh-less. UCLA, Kansas, and Memphis are all Adidas schools, and even though UNC is a Nike school, they wear the Brand Jordan logo instead of the swoosh. I’m sure it’s been a while since this last happened.

  • Al | March 30, 2008 at 11:02 pm |

    I know a few other people made similar requests under other posts –> Is there anyone with ESPN Insider access who wouldn’t mind posting the transcript from Paul’s chat here?

    Thank you!

  • Glenn | March 30, 2008 at 11:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”244469″]Navy blue numbers, Glenn. :)[/quote]

    couldn’t tell on either of my tvs, and one is HD………..they’re still dark, and its a horrible look :) Either red numbers (which still would have been bad, but not AS bad), or solid white and really nailed the batting practice look.

    I guess its a “slight” improvement over the Sunday reds they’ve trotted out in the past.

  • LI Phil | March 30, 2008 at 11:10 pm |

    ‘w’ should have had the stones to declare tomorrow a ‘national holiday’…which it should be

    also…he didn’t do such a bad job in the booth…better than morgan…but then again, that’s like saying root canal is better than a colonsocopy

  • Brian from Short Island | March 30, 2008 at 11:15 pm |

    Notre Dame has banners for NCAA Appearances (with a listing of years on each, and a new banner when the previous one is full) and one for our 1978 Final Four (that’s the wording, not “Regional Champion”) appearance. Making the Final Four is a really big deal.

    It’s not an artificial distinction. If you insist on breaking the tournament into mini-tournaments, split it by weekend. Only four teams make the third weekend. That’s big, and I’d be beyond thrilled if the Irish did it again.

  • Ryan B. | March 30, 2008 at 11:19 pm |

    Dear Atlanta Braves,

    You look ridiculous in your new blue road uniforms with blue numbers.

    Please correct this immediately. (They’d really look quite sharp if the lettering on the front and the numbers were red, not blue. Seriously.)

    Signed,
    Everyone

  • Ryan B. | March 30, 2008 at 11:24 pm |

    It’s hard to see in this pic, but New England Revolution goalkeeper Matt Reis wore a knitted ski-style cap last night against Houston.

    Anyone find a better pic?

  • ATLien | March 30, 2008 at 11:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”244411″][quote comment=”244400″]
    No chance in hell the Bravos drop the tomahawk. Not sure how long you’ve been in ATL but i’ve lived in GA my entire life and the grand majority of us love the tomahawk and the unis. And Bobby Cox has full rights to be traditional and not change the unis. They brought us 14 straight Division Championships didn’t they?[/quote]
    31 years Born and raised so I grew up with these same old uniforms and the ones before didn’t have the tomahawk on them that does mean you can’t still do the tomahawk chop but I have my reason for not supporting and this is not the place to discuss that I loved the Braves I cried in ’91 and I celebrated in ’95 and you are right Bobby Cox has the right to be a traditionalist but when your catcher is getting his head beat in when there is something available to keep him safer you let him wear it but old Bobby is coming around I just want some new uniforms so I can give my Braves my money instead of wearing my old jersey from ’95 that looks like one from 2008 thats all[/quote]

    Paul is gonna hate me for this, but…Punctuation is your friend, man.

    I’ve lived here my whole life, too. Guess what? Your previous post of “no tradition before 82” or whatever that was… is patently false. I suggest you google “Milwaukee Braves” and check out the images. You might notice something a little bit familiar.

    And as for giving the braves your money, here’s an idea, as outrageous as it might sound: go to a game?

    As for the uniforms; if it replaces that disgusting red thing, i’m all for it. However, we’ll see how they love that design in July.

  • James Craven | March 30, 2008 at 11:34 pm |

    Because it’s their road uniform, I’s like to have seen gray on red lettering in “Atlanta”, the red tomahawk and gray on red numbers on the back.

  • El Scotto | March 30, 2008 at 11:57 pm |

    I go to a small school in Western Colorado called Mesa State College, and our softball team advertised a breast cancer awareness game where they would be wearing pink jerseys. Needless to say the “jerseys” were a tad disappointing. Sad considering that for a softball team, they generally don’t look too bad

  • Kyle at IU | March 30, 2008 at 11:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”244470″]Anyone else notice that Ryan Zimmerman for the Nats was wearing a Cool Base uni?

    Kind of a weird choice with the weather so cold in DC.[/quote]

    It’s ’cause his bat is so HOT! Sorry…you’re talking to a nats fan here.

    It was funny…I watched the game with my friend who is a Braves fan, and he was wearing his red braves jersey and tomahawk-through-the-A hat. Irony? Perhaps. He didn’t think too highly of the all-blue shirts, but that might be because we couldn’t figure out whether they were blue or black on his TV.

  • JB | March 31, 2008 at 12:22 am |

    I’d read Paul’s item the other day that the Braves were bringing out power blue alternates, taking me back to my childhood. Needless to say, these were HIGHLY disappointing.

  • Eric B | March 31, 2008 at 1:19 am |

    [quote comment=”244411″][quote comment=”244400″]
    No chance in hell the Bravos drop the tomahawk. Not sure how long you’ve been in ATL but i’ve lived in GA my entire life and the grand majority of us love the tomahawk and the unis. And Bobby Cox has full rights to be traditional and not change the unis. They brought us 14 straight Division Championships didn’t they?[/quote]
    31 years Born and raised so I grew up with these same old uniforms and the ones before didn’t have the tomahawk on them that does mean you can’t still do the tomahawk chop but I have my reason for not supporting and this is not the place to discuss that I loved the Braves I cried in ’91 and I celebrated in ’95 and you are right Bobby Cox has the right to be a traditionalist but when your catcher is getting his head beat in when there is something available to keep him safer you let him wear it but old Bobby is coming around I just want some new uniforms so I can give my Braves my money instead of wearing my old jersey from ’95 that looks like one from 2008 thats all[/quote]

    what does your post and a woman on steroids have in common?

  • Steve | March 31, 2008 at 1:22 am |

    After years of wearing “C. Jones” on the back of his Braves jersey — because Andruw Jones, now with the Dodgers, was a teammate — Chipper Jones was identified Sunday simply as “Jones.”

  • Stuby | March 31, 2008 at 1:32 am |

    [quote comment=”244506″]After years of wearing “C. Jones” on the back of his Braves jersey — because Andruw Jones, now with the Dodgers, was a teammate — Chipper Jones was identified Sunday simply as “Jones.”[/quote]
    Chipper and Andruw both wore just plain “Jones” even when they were teammates.

  • Stuby | March 31, 2008 at 1:35 am |

    I stand corrected.

  • DawgFan | March 31, 2008 at 2:02 am |

    Brayan Pena wears a double flap helmet because he’s a switch hitter. The Braves new uni front is the same size as the road gray’s, I personally wasn’t impressed with the blue alts. I thought they should just go with a blue version of the grays

  • lwiedy | March 31, 2008 at 2:52 am |

    [quote comment=”244472″]Brayan Pena and Willie Harris were both rockin double flapped battuing helmets tonight. First time other than in a little league game?[/quote]

    Not all that uncommon. Terry Pendleton & Otis Nixon as Braves teammates right off the top of my head.

  • Josh | March 31, 2008 at 3:01 am |

    [quote comment=”244474″]Don’t know if this has been mentioned, but this year’s Final Four team jerseys will be swoosh-less. UCLA, Kansas, and Memphis are all Adidas schools, and even though UNC is a Nike school, they wear the Brand Jordan logo instead of the swoosh. I’m sure it’s been a while since this last happened.[/quote]

    Actually, the jerseys are swoosh-less EVERY year. The NCAA doesn’t allow manufacturer logos on hoops jerseys. Just the shorts.

  • Dave in VA | March 31, 2008 at 8:22 am |

    [quote comment=”244529″][quote comment=”244472″]Brayan Pena and Willie Harris were both rockin double flapped battuing helmets tonight. First time other than in a little league game?[/quote]

    Not all that uncommon. Terry Pendleton & Otis Nixon as Braves teammates right off the top of my head.[/quote]

    Along with Willie McGee back in ’82 as well, I believe.

  • MPowers1634 | March 31, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    [quote comment=”244455″]not the best pic, but here’s odalis perez’ tag in action[/quote]

    My problem is that the nationals are wearing red caps and red piping accents. Whay the black shoes? The Angels have done this for years as well and I don’t understand why!

  • Dave | March 31, 2008 at 3:17 pm |

    No Nike in the Final 4!! UCLA (Adidas), Kansas (Adidas), Memphis (Adidas) and North Carolina ( Jordan). When is the last time the swoosh wasn’t present in this great event?

  • Mark | March 31, 2008 at 3:20 pm |

    I agree with your point. This reminds me of some guy I saw with a Yankees 1999 Eastern Division Championship shirt. I admit, I am a conceited yankee fan (but I also like the Jets and the Knicks so don’t say I am a frontrunner). But how you can go buy a division championship shirt when your team had won 2 of the last 3 world championships and, although you didn’t know it at the time, was in the middle of a threepeat. I mean, come on! And how can that shirt even be made?