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Leafs Devise New Strategy to Shut Down Pesky Habs

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Reader Jared Wheeler works for Mitchell & Ness, where he conducts historical research to help ensure that the company’s reproductions are as accurate as possible. I’ll be conducting an interview with him soon, but for now here’s a bunch of killer hockey photos he recently sent my way:

• “Here are some photos of the first ‘all-star’ game in 1934, which was a benefit game for Ace Bailey of the Maple Leafs,” says Jared [this was 13 years before the first ‘official’ NHL All-Star Game — PL]. “Check out how the Leafs wore ‘Ace’ on their jerseys. And here’s a shot of Bailey himself after two brain surgeries. After he was hit from behind on December 12, 1933, in a game against the Bruins, some of the B’s started wearing protective headgear.”

• “Here’s Bobby Orr wearing No. 5 in an All-Star Game with his No. 4 gloves, and wearing No. 27 — with No. 37 gloves! — in an exhibition game prior to his rookie season.”

• “Another All-Star Game shot, this one from the 1976 ASG in Philly. Both teams wore the bicentennial patch, which was also worn by the Steelers and Cowboys in Super Bowl X.”

• “This is a is a 1937-1938 photo of Milt Schmidt wearing a crude mask. Here’s a later photo of Schmidt — look how his captain’s C is between the two numerals. Both photos ran in Sport magazine in 1948.”

• “Here’s a shot of the Red Wings’ diamond-shaped captaincy patches. And dheck out the in a diamond-shaped sleeve designation here. The ‘R’ team, by the way, is the amateur New York Rovers. This shot was taken at training camp in Lake Placid in 1948.”

• “Two interesting World War II-era shots here: The Red Wings wore a ‘V’ patch, for victory (you can see it on both sleeves), and some Maple Leafs players prepared for war in their sweaters.”

• “Here are some great old sweaters: Seattle Metropolitans, circa 1919 (here’s a tight shot of the crest), New York Americans, mid-1930s (plus a rear view), and Philadelphia Quakers, circa 1930. We got these shots from the Hall of Fame.” [As an aside, what’s the deal with that little collar ribbon on the Seattle sweater? — PL]

• “Two Rangers wearing improvised facemasks: Ivan ‘Ching’ Johnson, circa 1930s, and Walt Tkaczuk, 1977-78.”

• “Look at the two jersey logos in this shot. It appears that the face on Hull’s logo is much darker.”

• “Some random old stuff: the Montreal Wanderers, circa 1914; the 1928 Detroit Cougars; and the first indoor arena game, which was in Quebec in 1893.”

• “Is that a back pocket on the player at far right?”

Awesome stuff. And in the non-uni category, Jared even found another shot of an athlete smoking (and baling hay): That’s Bobby Hull.

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And you should’ve seen the notes that came in from Tom Tancredo and Lou Dobbs: Of all the reactions to yesterday’s entry about Los Spurs and Los Suns (most of which were posted in the comments section, although a few readers e-mailed me their thoughts directly), the most interesting and thoughtful one was an e-mail from Pablo Souki. Check it out:

I grew up in Venezuela, speaking Spanish. Of the American major sports leagues, I followed MLB very closely, the rest not at all. Some of the team names were always translated back then, like Cerveceros and Gigantes, who seem to have gotten it right. Others were not. The Yankees were always the Yanquis (phonetic translation, I guess, but nothing else), the Phillies were always the Filis, the Dodgers were the Dodgers.

I get the feeling (no hard evidence of any kind here, just me remembering my childhood) that the ones who were translated were the ones who had a literal translation: The Reds were the Rojos, the A’s the Atléticos, the Blue Jays the Azulejos, and so on. This seems to have changed with the Marlins, though — there was an actual translation for Marlins, but I don’t remember ever using it.

If I had to guess, I would say that the other translations had happened at earlier times, when we had no access to U.S. broadcasts of games, only translated ones. Cultures were less intertwined, and names were translated. By the time the Marlins and Rockies appeared, we could watch games on satellite TV and were more used to English terminology. However, this theory is destroyed by the fact that the Devil Rays were always the Mantarrayas. So maybe “Peces Espada” was just too cumbersome a translation for “Marlins.”

Two other notes: First, Spanish is spoken so differently in terms of syntax and jargon from country to country (the word used in Venezuela for “receipt” is used in Argentina for “pastry”, for instance, and words that are perfectly common in one country are terrible swear words in others) that I would be hard-pressed to believe that my childhood experiences hold true elsewhere. ESPNdeportes.com itself has such a variety of nationalities that the inconsistencies from one column to the next are huge. As a matter of fact, some writers use the “Los” article before team names, others don’t. All of this just illustrates the point that “Latino” encompasses so many nationalities that it is very hard to get something like this right. But we have been all thrown in the same group, whether we like it or not.

Second, I have never seen a Latin team wear “Los” on its uniform., The Caracas Lions don’t wear “Los Leones,” just “Leones.” The La Guaira Sharks only wear “Tiburones,” no “Los.” So maybe that is the best reason to not add the “Los” to any team’s shirt.

Uni Watch News Ticker: The web site Improbable Soccer is running a series on team crests. The first installment is here. Expect new updates every day or two. … Did you know Navy once wore this helmet? Details here. … Unlikely stirrup alert: There’s a TV commercial currently running for the MLB 2K8 video game. Just past the 30-second mark, the voiceover (Denis Leary, I believe) says, “I wanna have the most fun you can have with those funny baseball socks on,” accompanied by a shot of the ’67 Cardinals in all their striped-stirruped glory (nice find by Chris Flinn). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Jerry Rice doesn’t mind if the Niners unretire his number so Isaac Bruce can wear it. … Gonzaga pitcher Cory Powell wore a helmet/mask combo the other day. “He recently took a comebacker in the orbital bone,” writes Matt Camino, who sent me the photo (which was taken by his fiancé, Meghan Moran). “He apparently wore a plastic mask like the ones NBA players wear after he first got hit, and now he wears the helmet and facemask to prevent it from happening again.” … Thing of beauty. … Excellent column here about a baseball card photographer who works for Topps (with thanks to Minna H.). … Just what the world needs: Billy Crystal in pinstripes. … Reprinted from last night’s comments: The A’s wore a way snazzy jersey patch yesterday. … Interesting note from Brian Vigue, who writes: “I played high school football in the mid-’60’s — and I wore a leather helmet! It wasn’t left over from the ’40s but was supposedly the latest technology at the time. There were at least three different helmets used by team members: the leather helmet, a suspension bubble-type thing, and an oblong close-fitting plastic job that kind of looked like Otto Graham’s. Many schools we played at the time also used the leather helmet.” … If you click on this link, you’ll download a PDF of a daily tournament update from the International Baseball Federation. Most of it is very official-looking, except for this amusing handwritten addendum from the Canadian coach. Also of uni-note: Check out the second numbered item here (with thanks to Bob Timmerman). … “Montreal’s going to have a new junior hockey team next year and they introduced their new jerseys today,” writes Paul Richard Cook. Full details here, and there’s a video clip that includes some previous Montreal junior hockey logos here.

 

122 comments to Leafs Devise New Strategy to Shut Down Pesky Habs

  • BigMatt | March 11, 2008 at 7:14 am |

    Finally….it smells like March

  • Kate | March 11, 2008 at 7:15 am |

    As a Pirates fan, Billy Crystal as a Yankee may be my team’s only hope of beating the Yankees. So I say bring on more 59 year old ballplayers in pinstripes.

  • Gabe | March 11, 2008 at 7:26 am |

    Here is a gallery of the Syracuse Crunch honoring their past by wearing 1972-1973 Syracuse Blazers Jerseys here.I couldnt find alot of photos besides this gallery on the local news site. The photos arent very good but the jerseys looked awesome regardless. I think they were supposed to wear black trunks.

  • Mike | March 11, 2008 at 7:32 am |

    I noticed the Pirates have a Josh Wilson on the team in Spring Training and of course, Jack Wilson. Anyone see how they are doing the NOB? I wan’t imagine they are doing anything but “Wilson” for just Spring Training. I have tickets for two Bucs games coming up in Bradenton, but alas, it seems work will once again keep me from attending…..

  • Stephen | March 11, 2008 at 7:58 am |

    Speaking of the Cardinal’s striped stirrups, did anybody catch the Braves-Cards game yesterday? One of the Cardinals prospects (Brian Barton, the left fielder) was wearing fake striped stirrup-socks, but it looked like he had hand-drawn them. The Braves announcers, Jon Sciambi and Joe Simpson, commented on them.

    Sorry, no pic…

    ~E~

  • MIKE | March 11, 2008 at 8:10 am |

    Anyone else see Henrik Lundqvist wearing surgical glove underneath his hockey gloves, is this normal with all the sweat or is RBK jersey related

  • DJ | March 11, 2008 at 8:17 am |

    Look at the two jersey logos in this shot. It appears that the face on Hull’s logo is much darker.

    Just the way the light played off the material (a satin-type back then).

  • Jim | March 11, 2008 at 8:19 am |

    [quote comment=”237479″]Anyone else see Henrik Lundqvist wearing surgical glove underneath his hockey gloves, is this normal with all the sweat or is RBK jersey related[/quote]

    I did see that, but I figured it was a glove comaprable to a batting glove. I know some goalies do wear gloves under their hockey glove, but I thought it was for added padding.

  • KT | March 11, 2008 at 8:26 am |

    Felix Pie mystery from Sunday solved. Email from the Cubs:

    “He forgot his No. 20 jersey, and someone brought it from Mesa.”

    (In case you’re just joining us, Pie went out to center field in the bottom of the first against the Royals in Surprise Sunday wearing #74, but had #20 on by the time he doubled in the top of the second. It takes about an hour, probably, to get from Mesa to Surprise, so someone was hustling. I can’t believe they’d let players deal with their own uniforms, though.)

  • Joey Guns | March 11, 2008 at 8:27 am |

    The one gloved wonder, David Carr, is visiting the NY Giants today to be one of their backup QB’s……

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

  • Nathan | March 11, 2008 at 8:40 am |

    Attended the Dartmouth @ Cornell men’s hockey games this weekend (1st round of the ECAC Hockey playoffs). Dartmouth has wonderful striped hockey socks, the best socks I have seen all season. Dartnouth’s sweaters are Reebok, while their shorts are CCM. Most ECAC Hockey teams mix-and-match. though Harvard and Cornell use one supplier.

    Link

  • ryan c #40 | March 11, 2008 at 8:41 am |

    NYJER!!! My favorite Pirate and poster boy for MLB uniforms! ha-ha.

  • ryan c #40 | March 11, 2008 at 8:42 am |

    GREAT Montréal junior uniforms! but is anyone else getting tired of the neck/collar strings on hockey jerseys???

  • Mike V. | March 11, 2008 at 8:47 am |

    [quote comment=”237533″]NYJER!!! My favorite Pirate and poster boy for MLB uniforms! ha-ha.[/quote]

    One of the few things i can be proud of concerning the pirates. GO PENS!!!

  • Jeff | March 11, 2008 at 8:49 am |

    http://farm4.static....

    Man – I would be fricking nice to see an Indian head sweater that close to Lord Stanley’s cup again before I die.

  • Tony in Erie | March 11, 2008 at 8:52 am |

    Really enjoying all the hockey coverage of late, Paul. Thanks so much for all the old time jersey articles.

    Ryan C – Yeah the string thing is goofy again. But I have to disagree with you…those Montreal junior team jerseys look very bland. Like they went to the local hockey shop, bought some blank Coyotes jerseys, and scribbled Montreal on them, like in some pick up league. I’m disappointed.

  • Tony in Erie | March 11, 2008 at 8:57 am |

    One more jab — the Montreal junior team probably hired the Ducks designer for their jerseys.

    Hell even the Iowa Caucuses had a damn logo!

  • lwiedy | March 11, 2008 at 8:59 am |

    Another application of the Bicentennial patch from August 1975 (HOF Game vs. Bengals).

  • dn393 | March 11, 2008 at 9:00 am |

    Not that’s it’s a huge issue, but I’m bored and lookking for something to do……

    There seems to be a discrepancy regarding the status of Jerry Rice’s #80 and the SF 49ers. Various resources such as nflteamhistory.com and sportsline.com show that #80 HAS NOT been retired (nor has Steve Young’s #8 for that matter.) To be fair, there are sources such as sportsecyclopedia.com that show them to be retired numbers. For their part, I could find no retired number list at the 49ers official website. An email from me to the Niners for clarification is awaiting their response.

  • BrianC | March 11, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    The new Montreal sweaters look like the old Montreal Maroons design. Nice to see clean design and not something created by a marketing committee.

  • Perry | March 11, 2008 at 9:23 am |

    [quote comment=”237507″]Felix Pie mystery from Sunday solved. Email from the Cubs:

    “He forgot his No. 20 jersey, and someone brought it from Mesa.”

    (In case you’re just joining us, Pie went out to center field in the bottom of the first against the Royals in Surprise Sunday wearing #74, but had #20 on by the time he doubled in the top of the second. It takes about an hour, probably, to get from Mesa to Surprise, so someone was hustling. I can’t believe they’d let players deal with their own uniforms, though.)[/quote]

    I can’t believe anyone would bother making a one-hour drive (two, if someone was dispatched from Surprise back to Mesa) so that Felix Pie could wear his usual number in a spring training game.

  • BCrisp | March 11, 2008 at 9:24 am |

    The other week Paul was making fun of Texas A&M baseball’s new uniforms. I got to admit the white jerseys are pretty bad.
    But check out the maroon ones. Great stirrups, great jersey, reverse field American Flag, and an all time classic hat. I’ve been told that those hats are extremely tough to find in College Station.
    link

  • LI Phil | March 11, 2008 at 9:37 am |

    ugh

    someone please inform the kids today that this is NOT the correct way to wear stirrups

  • ScottS | March 11, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    Is that blood?

  • lwiedy | March 11, 2008 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=”237603″]The other week Paul was making fun of Texas A&M baseball’s new uniforms. I got to admit the white jerseys are pretty bad.
    But check out the maroon ones. Great stirrups, great jersey, reverse field American Flag, and an all time classic hat. I’ve been told that those hats are extremely tough to find in College Station.
    link[/quote]

    Agreed. These guys look like ballplayers not circus clowns (Manny).

  • lwiedy | March 11, 2008 at 9:44 am |

    [quote comment=”237609″]ugh

    someone please inform the kids today that this is NOT the correct way to wear stirrups[/quote]

    Also agreed, but I’m willing to forgive given the properly tailored pants and sleeves.

  • John T | March 11, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    Nice gallery here on the Greatest of all time. The one with the kids is my favorite.

  • Robert | March 11, 2008 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”237603″]The other week Paul was making fun of Texas A&M baseball’s new uniforms. I got to admit the white jerseys are pretty bad.
    But check out the maroon ones. Great stirrups, great jersey, reverse field American Flag, and an all time classic hat. I’ve been told that those hats are extremely tough to find in College Station.
    link[/quote]

    I don’t know that I am ready for a return of the hats with differently-colored crowns, such as were popular in the ’70s and early ’80s.

  • Robert | March 11, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”237609″]ugh

    someone please inform the kids today that this is NOT the correct way to wear stirrups[/quote]

    Perhaps, but in this era, I will tolerate nearly any style of stirrup, so long as it is present and visible.

  • Jet | March 11, 2008 at 9:57 am |

    Paul, thank you for the hockey stuff, it’s incredible!!!

    Did anyone notice the pic of Bobby Orr wearing #27 — in the background to the left is a kid who looks like he’s wearing a different-colored prototype of the Vancouver Canucks “Halloween” jersey!!!!

    -Jet

  • josh | March 11, 2008 at 9:59 am |

    A quick heads-up to Jared. The Mitchell & Ness versions of early ’70s White Sox jerseys (red & powder) have numbers that are entirely too small.

  • Jet | March 11, 2008 at 10:03 am |

    Nice classic striping on those Montreal junior jerseys…. but the numbers don’t look right with the wordmark. On the white jersey, look how thin the outline is on the number compared to the wordmark. And why even have white numbers on a white jersey? Just make ’em red.

    -Jet

  • JoeS | March 11, 2008 at 10:07 am |

    Mostly off topic, but I stumbled upon some awesome old photos at the Minnesota Historical Society site.
    “Minneapolis Millers Hockey Team 1926”
    “Baseball Players, Minneapolis 4/26/1926”
    “Minneapolis and St. Paul teams in the first intercity game of 1926 at Lexington Park.” (which of course reminds me of this)
    You can search for photos and I just searched “Minneapolis” in the year 1926. I’m sure if I had searched “baseball” I would have found much more.

  • Drew from AU | March 11, 2008 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”237623″][quote comment=”237603″]The other week Paul was making fun of Texas A&M baseball’s new uniforms. I got to admit the white jerseys are pretty bad.
    But check out the maroon ones. Great stirrups, great jersey, reverse field American Flag, and an all time classic hat. I’ve been told that those hats are extremely tough to find in College Station.
    link[/quote]

    Bro, the maroon is definitely a better look. However, the Aggies still have the second best unis in the state http://www.texasspor...
    just imagine if the kids wore stirrups with those pristine whites…

  • JoeS | March 11, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    My post got dropped and it was a cool one! Help anyone?

  • KT | March 11, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”237574″]Not that’s it’s a huge issue, but I’m bored and lookking for something to do……

    There seems to be a discrepancy regarding the status of Jerry Rice’s #80 and the SF 49ers. Various resources such as nflteamhistory.com and sportsline.com show that #80 HAS NOT been retired (nor has Steve Young’s #8 for that matter.) To be fair, there are sources such as sportsecyclopedia.com that show them to be retired numbers. For their part, I could find no retired number list at the 49ers official website. An email from me to the Niners for clarification is awaiting their response.[/quote]

    In researching retired NFL numbers myself, I’m finding the same things you’re finding. There are some numbers (Jack Youngblood’s #85 for the Rams, for one) that have been “mothballed” but not officially “retired.”

    We can argue that if no one wears it, it’s, in a de facto sense, retired. But I consider that you have to have a ceremony, give the guy a framed jersey and display that number somewhere in the yard for the number retirement to be complete and official (or at least to satisfy my own selfish sense of order).

    The only numbers the 49ers have officially retired are these:
    #34 Joe Perry (1971)
    #39 Hugh McElhenny (1971)
    #73 Leo Nomelini (1971)
    #12 John Brodie (1973)
    #77 Charlie Krueger (1974)
    #37 Jimmy Johnson (1977)
    #87 Dwight Clark (1988)
    #16 Joe Montana (1997)
    #79 Bob St. Clair (2001)
    #42 Ronnie Lott (2003)

    The retirement of Lott’s #42 during halftime of a Monday night game on November 17, 2003 against Pittsburgh is, I believe, the last one the 49ers have done.

    This page lists Young’s #8 and Rice’s #80 as having been retired as well, but I can’t find documentation of that. Surely they’d have had a ceremony, because that’s what you do nowadays.

    It’d be typical of Rice’s ego that he’d say it’s okay for someone to wear his retired number when his number hasn’t been retired. Gee, thanks, Jerry.

    I’m in the process of tracking down the actual dates of ceremonies (many of them are at halftimes of games and are documented in local news media – at least ones from the last 15 years or so) to retire numbers and see what’s been done with pomp and circumstance and what’s just been done quietly (like Terry Bradshaw’s #12 and Franco Harris’ #32 and suchlike).

  • KT | March 11, 2008 at 10:28 am |

    And, oh, by the way, Trent Dilfer wears John Brodie’s retired #12 because he’s a close personal friend of Brodie and wants to bring attention to the family’s belief that Brodie should be in the Hall of Fame.

    dn393, let us know what you find out, please. Thanks.

  • Derek G. | March 11, 2008 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”237636″][quote comment=”237623″][quote comment=”237603″]The other week Paul was making fun of Texas A&M baseball’s new uniforms. I got to admit the white jerseys are pretty bad.
    But check out the maroon ones. Great stirrups, great jersey, reverse field American Flag, and an all time classic hat. I’ve been told that those hats are extremely tough to find in College Station.
    link[/quote]

    Bro, the maroon is definitely a better look. However, the Aggies still have the second best unis in the state http://www.texasspor...
    just imagine if the kids wore stirrups with those pristine whites…[/quote]

    Did anyone else notice that those Texas jerseys are pullovers? How many teams out there don’t go with the traditional button-up style?

  • todd krevanchi | March 11, 2008 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”237609″]ugh

    someone please inform the kids today that this is NOT the correct way to wear stirrups[/quote]

    see, and i disagree. im a fan of the baggy and long inseamed baseball pants. i think stirrups pulled high (see jose cruz, and jr, keith hernandez) makes a player look goofy.

    however with properly tailored pants, baggy fit and just below the knee, the ankle stirrups actually look fine. but never the high stirrup.

  • JoeS | March 11, 2008 at 10:51 am |
  • Dwight | March 11, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”237636″][quote comment=”237623″][quote comment=”237603″]The other week Paul was making fun of Texas A&M baseball’s new uniforms. I got to admit the white jerseys are pretty bad.
    But check out the maroon ones. Great stirrups, great jersey, reverse field American Flag, and an all time classic hat. I’ve been told that those hats are extremely tough to find in College Station.
    link[/quote]

    Bro, the maroon is definitely a better look. However, the Aggies still have the second best unis in the state http://www.texasspor...
    just imagine if the kids wore stirrups with those pristine whites…[/quote]

    Not Quite!
    http://images.chron....

  • LI Phil | March 11, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”237646″][quote comment=”237609″]ugh

    someone please inform the kids today that this is NOT the correct way to wear stirrups[/quote]

    see, and i disagree. im a fan of the baggy and long inseamed baseball pants. i think stirrups pulled high (see jose cruz, and jr, keith hernandez) makes a player look goofy.

    however with properly tailored pants, baggy fit and just below the knee, the ankle stirrups actually look fine. but never the high stirrup.[/quote]

    i wasn’t talking about the HEIGHT of the stirrup…i was talking about the HIGH SIDE…which properly goes in the back or ‘on the calf’, not the shin

  • KT | March 11, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    Todd, you don’t live in Catasauqua, do you?

  • JeffM | March 11, 2008 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”237642″][quote comment=”237636″][quote comment=”237623″][quote comment=”237603″]The other week Paul was making fun of Texas A&M baseball’s new uniforms. I got to admit the white jerseys are pretty bad.
    But check out the maroon ones. Great stirrups, great jersey, reverse field American Flag, and an all time classic hat. I’ve been told that those hats are extremely tough to find in College Station.
    link[/quote]

    Bro, the maroon is definitely a better look. However, the Aggies still have the second best unis in the state http://www.texasspor...
    just imagine if the kids wore stirrups with those pristine whites…[/quote]

    Did anyone else notice that those Texas jerseys are pullovers? How many teams out there don’t go with the traditional button-up style?[/quote]

    Stanford goes with the v-neck pullover and stirups

  • JJD | March 11, 2008 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”237574″]Not that’s it’s a huge issue, but I’m bored and lookking for something to do……

    There seems to be a discrepancy regarding the status of Jerry Rice’s #80 and the SF 49ers. Various resources such as nflteamhistory.com and sportsline.com show that #80 HAS NOT been retired (nor has Steve Young’s #8 for that matter.) To be fair, there are sources such as sportsecyclopedia.com that show them to be retired numbers. For their part, I could find no retired number list at the 49ers official website. An email from me to the Niners for clarification is awaiting their response.[/quote]

    Officially retired or not, it would be pretty hypocritical of Rice to deny Bruce #80 after the Seahawks took it out retirement for Rice to wear, don’t you think?

  • mike | March 11, 2008 at 11:25 am |

    Re. the Detroit Red Wings “V” patch – first of all, that referee’s jersey is amazing! Sweater and tie. How classy is that?

    Second, I’m 99% sure that referee is King Clancy
    (subject of the Coolest Memorial Patch Ever)

  • Marc M. | March 11, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    I think it’s safe to say that Jerry Rice’s number 80 is not retired by the 49ers.

  • Ryne | March 11, 2008 at 11:30 am |

    I am wondering if anyone has knowledge of a website that sells stirrups like the one that PL linked to today in the Ticker? I am looking for both BLACK and the most difficult to find, KELLY GREEN. Thanks.

  • Mike Engle | March 11, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    In this photo from the Ticker, the player with the helmet, Boston’s #2, is Eddie Shore, who knocked Ace Bailey out of the league, leading to the benefit game. Almost comes across as “I’m a mean son of a b*tch, and I’m going to make sure nobody evens the score by ending my career too.”

  • KT | March 11, 2008 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”237662″]Officially retired or not, it would be pretty hypocritical of Rice to deny Bruce #80 after the Seahawks took it out retirement for Rice to wear, don’t you think?[/quote]

    Well, he can’t deny anybody the right to wear it – only the team can. He can complain, I guess he would have the right to grumble about it.

    But, yeah, considering he asked for Steve Largent’s blessing (and Largent took the high road – good for him) to wear a number that’s actually, verifiably retired, it would be an asshat move for him to grumble too much publicly about it.

  • KT | March 11, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”237667″]In this photo from the Ticker, the player with the helmet, Boston’s #2, is Eddie Shore, who knocked Ace Bailey out of the league, leading to the benefit game. Almost comes across as “I’m a mean son of a b*tch, and I’m going to make sure nobody evens the score by ending my career too.”[/quote]

    Dit Clapper, Eddie Shore, those guys were the greats.

  • Jeff B | March 11, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”237640″][quote comment=”237574″]Not that’s it’s a huge issue, but I’m bored and lookking for something to do……

    There seems to be a discrepancy regarding the status of Jerry Rice’s #80 and the SF 49ers. Various resources such as nflteamhistory.com and sportsline.com show that #80 HAS NOT been retired (nor has Steve Young’s #8 for that matter.) To be fair, there are sources such as sportsecyclopedia.com that show them to be retired numbers. For their part, I could find no retired number list at the 49ers official website. An email from me to the Niners for clarification is awaiting their response.[/quote]

    In researching retired NFL numbers myself, I’m finding the same things you’re finding. There are some numbers (Jack Youngblood’s #85 for the Rams, for one) that have been “mothballed” but not officially “retired.”

    We can argue that if no one wears it, it’s, in a de facto sense, retired. But I consider that you have to have a ceremony, give the guy a framed jersey and display that number somewhere in the yard for the number retirement to be complete and official (or at least to satisfy my own selfish sense of order).

    The only numbers the 49ers have officially retired are these:
    #34 Joe Perry (1971)
    #39 Hugh McElhenny (1971)
    #73 Leo Nomelini (1971)
    #12 John Brodie (1973)
    #77 Charlie Krueger (1974)
    #37 Jimmy Johnson (1977)
    #87 Dwight Clark (1988)
    #16 Joe Montana (1997)
    #79 Bob St. Clair (2001)
    #42 Ronnie Lott (2003)

    The retirement of Lott’s #42 during halftime of a Monday night game on November 17, 2003 against Pittsburgh is, I believe, the last one the 49ers have done.

    This page lists Young’s #8 and Rice’s #80 as having been retired as well, but I can’t find documentation of that. Surely they’d have had a ceremony, because that’s what you do nowadays.

    It’d be typical of Rice’s ego that he’d say it’s okay for someone to wear his retired number when his number hasn’t been retired. Gee, thanks, Jerry.

    I’m in the process of tracking down the actual dates of ceremonies (many of them are at halftimes of games and are documented in local news media – at least ones from the last 15 years or so) to retire numbers and see what’s been done with pomp and circumstance and what’s just been done quietly (like Terry Bradshaw’s #12 and Franco Harris’ #32 and suchlike).[/quote]

    I have a book on NFL Uniform Numbers, and for the 49ers, they have a section called “numbers that should be retired” in which they talk about Young and Rice. So at least at the time of this book’s publication in 2005 they are not retired, and if it happened since then, we would remember it.

  • dn393 | March 11, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”237641″]And, oh, by the way, Trent Dilfer wears John Brodie’s retired #12 because he’s a close personal friend of Brodie and wants to bring attention to the family’s belief that Brodie should be in the Hall of Fame.

    dn393, let us know what you find out, please. Thanks.[/quote]

    I sure will, as soon as I hear something.

  • James Craven | March 11, 2008 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”237580″]“The new Montreal sweaters look like the old Montreal Maroons design. Nice to see clean design and not something created by a marketing committee.”[/quote]

    Or the current Phoenix Coyotes. And color on color is sooooooooo boring!

  • James Craven | March 11, 2008 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”237669″]“Dit Clapper, Eddie Shore, those guys were the greats.”[/quote]

    Old time hockey, I tell ya.

  • Dave | March 11, 2008 at 11:48 am |

    This is interesting. UNC has clear-cut rules for retiring jerseys. See the last paragraph.

  • Brad | March 11, 2008 at 11:48 am |

    Note the very cool use of morse code beneath the sleeve “V” on the Red Wings sweaters in WW II.

    In morse code “V” is conveyed by “Dot Dot Dot Dash.” Allied radio capitalized on the fact that Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony began with the same pattern and programs were frequently introduced with his opening notes. Listeners all understood it as “V, for Victory.”

    Obviously the wartime Wings sent a strong message each time they took the ice.

    As an active duty U.S. Navy captain and life-long hockey fanatic, I appreciate the hell out of their gesture.

  • BobA | March 11, 2008 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”237509″]The one gloved wonder, David Carr, is visiting the NY Giants today to be one of their backup QB’s……

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    Carr is hoping to swipe one of those Super Bowl rings when they distribute them to the Giants this fall at the first game.

    -signed
    A Bitter Texans fan ;-(

    Actually I’m just grumpy because I love old hockey pics and can’t see any of todays thru the filter here at work.

  • KT | March 11, 2008 at 12:04 pm |

    From the ESPN article:
    [quote]
    “For a North Carolina men’s player to have his jersey retired, he must win at least one of six national player of the year awards: The Associated Press, the U.S. Basketball Writers Association, the National Association of Basketball Coaches, Sporting News, the Wooden Award or the Naismith Award.”[/quote]

    Isn’t there somewhere where you have to get your degree, too, to have your number retired? Or am I mis-remembering that?

  • Kate | March 11, 2008 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”237674″][quote comment=”237669″]“Dit Clapper, Eddie Shore, those guys were the greats.”[/quote]

    Old time hockey, I tell ya.[/quote]

    Piss on old time hockey!

  • bill | March 11, 2008 at 12:07 pm |

    People are making too big of a deal about this Jerry Rice thing… It’s all hypothetical, Bruce hasn’t even expressed an interest to wear #80 yet. And #80 is NOT retired, I’m sure it will be soon though. Perhaps the 49ers are waiting for Rice to be inducted in to the Hall of Fame.

  • Mets Fan AZ | March 11, 2008 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”237650″][quote comment=”237646″][quote comment=”237609″]ugh

    someone please inform the kids today that this is NOT the correct way to wear stirrups[/quote]

    see, and i disagree. im a fan of the baggy and long inseamed baseball pants. i think stirrups pulled high (see jose cruz, and jr, keith hernandez) makes a player look goofy.

    however with properly tailored pants, baggy fit and just below the knee, the ankle stirrups actually look fine. but never the high stirrup.[/quote]

    i wasn’t talking about the HEIGHT of the stirrup…i was talking about the HIGH SIDE…which properly goes in the back or ‘on the calf’, not the shin[/quote]
    Thanks for clearing that up. I was about to say that the low stirrup was a staple of the old Cubs unis as well as the Big Red Machine’s.

  • Ryan B | March 11, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    For the record, the voiceover in the MLB 2K8 ad is indeed Denis Leary. I saw the ad last night and recognized his voice almost immediately.

  • ryan c #40 | March 11, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    Note the very cool use of morse code beneath the sleeve “V” on the Red Wings sweaters in WW II.

    In morse code “V” is conveyed by “Dot Dot Dot Dash.” Allied radio capitalized on the fact that Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony began with the same pattern and programs were frequently introduced with his opening notes. Listeners all understood it as “V, for Victory.”

    Obviously the wartime Wings sent a strong message each time they took the ice.

    As an active duty U.S. Navy captain and life-long hockey fanatic, I appreciate the hell out of their gesture.

    posts with info like that are all the reason to read the comments! great info, thanks!

  • KT | March 11, 2008 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”237677″]Note the very cool use of morse code beneath the sleeve “V” on the Red Wings sweaters in WW II.

    In morse code “V” is conveyed by “Dot Dot Dot Dash.” Allied radio capitalized on the fact that Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony began with the same pattern and programs were frequently introduced with his opening notes. Listeners all understood it as “V, for Victory.”

    Obviously the wartime Wings sent a strong message each time they took the ice.

    As an active duty U.S. Navy captain and life-long hockey fanatic, I appreciate the hell out of their gesture.[/quote]

    And, lest no one think to do it, thank you for your service to our country, sir.

  • Philly Bill | March 11, 2008 at 12:23 pm |

    Great post today, Paul and Jared.

    Another numerical oddity (non-Orr division) here: Bill Barber wearing number 11.

    [quote comment=”237677″]Note the very cool use of morse code beneath the sleeve “V” on the Red Wings sweaters in WW II.

    In morse code “V” is conveyed by “Dot Dot Dot Dash.” Allied radio capitalized on the fact that Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony began with the same pattern and programs were frequently introduced with his opening notes. Listeners all understood it as “V, for Victory.”

    Obviously the wartime Wings sent a strong message each time they took the ice.[/quote]

    I should just pack it in and go home, ’cause there is no way I’m going to learn anything more interesting than that for the rest of the day.

  • LI Phil | March 11, 2008 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”237688″][quote comment=”237677″]As an active duty U.S. Navy captain and life-long hockey fanatic, I appreciate the hell out of their gesture.[/quote]

    And, lest no one think to do it, thank you for your service to our country, sir.[/quote]

    what kenn said…

    thank you brad!

  • Graham | March 11, 2008 at 12:36 pm |

    homecooked hats also

  • Graham | March 11, 2008 at 12:42 pm |
  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | March 11, 2008 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”237696″]homecooked hats also[/quote]
    AACK!

  • Graham | March 11, 2008 at 12:46 pm |

    Oregon Camo anyone?

  • Rick White in Cedar Park, TX | March 11, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”237694″][quote comment=”237688″][quote comment=”237677″]As an active duty U.S. Navy captain and life-long hockey fanatic, I appreciate the hell out of their gesture.[/quote]

    And, lest no one think to do it, thank you for your service to our country, sir.[/quote]

    what kenn said…

    thank you brad![/quote]

    The same from me Brad. Your service is greatly appreciated.

    Related, and sorta a uni topic … I went to the christening of the U.S.S New York on March 1st in New Orleans. It was absolutely fantastic to see the new ship with 7.5 tons of WTC steel in it as well as having the chance to meet and thank several New York City Firefighters. The NYFD bagpipe corp was there too. Afterwards, my wife and I spent the rest of the weekend with my recently discharged West Point graduate that did 2 tours in Iraq.

  • Juan Grande | March 11, 2008 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”237676″]This is interesting. UNC has clear-cut rules for retiring jerseys. See the last paragraph.[/quote]

    Carolina soon won’t have any NCAA-eligible numbers left to issue!

    [quote comment=”237623″][quote comment=”237603″]The other week Paul was making fun of Texas A&M baseball’s new uniforms. I got to admit the white jerseys are pretty bad.
    But check out the maroon ones. Great stirrups, great jersey, reverse field American Flag, and an all time classic hat. I’ve been told that those hats are extremely tough to find in College Station.
    link[/quote]

    I don’t know that I am ready for a return of the hats with differently-colored crowns, such as were popular in the ’70s and early ’80s.[/quote]

    Flashbacks to those horrible white-fronted Blue Jays hats.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | March 11, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”237697″]coats, shirts, and shoes[/quote]
    UNCLE!
    Is there any piece of apparel that is immune to such torture? ;-)

  • Joey Guns | March 11, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    A Nicholas Cage impersonator fooled the Real Madrid soccer team, and they even presented him with a jersey! PRICELESS!

    http://machochip.com...

  • Joey Guns | March 11, 2008 at 1:05 pm |

    I don’t know much about soccer, but this Chelsea soccer player over in Europe is buying up his own jerseys to make it seem like he’s more popular than he actually is!

    http://www.dailymail...

  • LI Phil | March 11, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”237684″][quote comment=”237650″][quote comment=”237646″][quote comment=”237609″]ugh

    someone please inform the kids today that this is NOT the correct way to wear stirrups[/quote]

    see, and i disagree. im a fan of the baggy and long inseamed baseball pants. i think stirrups pulled high (see jose cruz, and jr, keith hernandez) makes a player look goofy.

    however with properly tailored pants, baggy fit and just below the knee, the ankle stirrups actually look fine. but never the high stirrup.[/quote]

    i wasn’t talking about the HEIGHT of the stirrup…i was talking about the HIGH SIDE…which properly goes in the back or ‘on the calf’, not the shin[/quote]
    Thanks for clearing that up. I was about to say that the low stirrup was a staple of the old Cubs unis as well as the Big Red Machine’s.[/quote]

    i have no problem with a “low” stirrup, so long as it’s worn properly…although having grown up in, and so worn ‘tall’ stirrups in the 70’s, i am more partial to that particular fashion

    but yeah…gimme this, this or this any day

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | March 11, 2008 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”237701″][quote comment=”237676″]This is interesting. UNC has clear-cut rules for retiring jerseys. See the last paragraph.[/quote]

    Carolina soon won’t have any NCAA-eligible numbers left to issue!

    [quote comment=”237623″][quote comment=”237603″]The other week Paul was making fun of Texas A&M baseball’s new uniforms. I got to admit the white jerseys are pretty bad.
    But check out the maroon ones. Great stirrups, great jersey, reverse field American Flag, and an all time classic hat. I’ve been told that those hats are extremely tough to find in College Station.
    link[/quote]

    I don’t know that I am ready for a return of the hats with differently-colored crowns, such as were popular in the ’70s and early ’80s.[/quote]

    Flashbacks to those horrible white-fronted Blue Jays hats.[/quote]
    Don’t forget to include these beauties – the hats, that is

  • Hama | March 11, 2008 at 1:15 pm |

    It’s nice to see that the IBAF is still using the same antequated database for their stat sheets.I have the stat booklets for the 1990 World Championships and it uses the same block typeface and format as was shown in that package.

  • LI Phil | March 11, 2008 at 1:18 pm |

    interesting…while checking into some stirrup history…i stumbled across this article

    check the “further reading” at the bottom of the article…i think the author is known to us

  • Judd | March 11, 2008 at 1:25 pm |

    Should Billy Crystal wear uniform 61? Or better yet, 61* instead of 60?

  • bmarlowe | March 11, 2008 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”237647″]Awesome striped action from the 1901 Minnesota State Champion Waseca Baseball club.[/quote]
    —-

    There is something else quite awsome about that photo…

  • Curt | March 11, 2008 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”237658″][quote comment=”237642″][quote comment=”237636″][quote comment=”237623″][quote comment=”237603″]The other week Paul was making fun of Texas A&M baseball’s new uniforms. I got to admit the white jerseys are pretty bad.
    But check out the maroon ones. Great stirrups, great jersey, reverse field American Flag, and an all time classic hat. I’ve been told that those hats are extremely tough to find in College Station.
    link[/quote]

    Bro, the maroon is definitely a better look. However, the Aggies still have the second best unis in the state http://www.texasspor...
    just imagine if the kids wore stirrups with those pristine whites…[/quote]

    Did anyone else notice that those Texas jerseys are pullovers? How many teams out there don’t go with the traditional button-up style?[/quote]

    Stanford goes with the v-neck pullover and stirups[/quote]

    Purdue baseball goes with the v-neck pullover every once in awhile as well. Can be seen in the page header here. Sorry I can’t find a better picture.

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | March 11, 2008 at 1:30 pm |

    Chalk me up as another person who isn’t overly fond of the Montreal Junior hockey jersey.

    It could be much much worse, though. I’ll take a bland fusion of Phoenix Coyotes colors/stripes and Anaheim Ducks over the multicolored, cartoony, caricatures that are prevalent in the CHL.

    I’d say it is an upgrade over the last Montreal junior hockey team, the Montreal Rocket. (Notice how the rocket creates a number 9 with the negative space. This is in honor of Maurice “Rocket” Richard, who wore #9 for the Habs).

  • Josh Petty | March 11, 2008 at 1:36 pm |

    The ribbon on the Seattle Metropolitans jersey looks to me like it may be an early version of tie strings in the neck. It looks like it goes all of the way around the neck, similar to the string in a pair of shorts. I don’t know why somebody would want to tie the jersey shut that way, but that’s what it looks like it is.

  • Jeff I. | March 11, 2008 at 1:42 pm |

    I believe the Celtics are bringing back my favorite alternate jersey in sports (hell I like it better than the original road jersey, flame on)

    Celtics St Paddy’s Day jersey

  • Mike | March 11, 2008 at 1:44 pm |

    Wow, a two for one

  • Teebz | March 11, 2008 at 1:55 pm |

    The “ribbon” appears to be an early style tie-up collar much like NHL players have today. When the Seattle Millionaires played, the rinks were literally freezers. By keeping the “ribbon” pulled tight, players could conserve their own body heat to keep them warm.

    If you notice in the Detroit Cougars picture, they are playing outdoors, which is also a reason to conserve body heat. However, in the picture of the faceoff during the Ace Bailey game, the man dropping the puck is dressed in his full-length coat. That’s because the rinks were basically the same temperature as what it was outdoors. Conserving heat was made easier if it wasn’t escaping your sweater.

    Refrigeration and air conditioning have come a long way in 80 years. :o)

  • todd krevanchi | March 11, 2008 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”237652″]Todd, you don’t live in Catasauqua, do you?[/quote]

    kt,
    you can find my direct email through PL. i’d rather not discuss matters like online.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | March 11, 2008 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”237718″]Chalk me up as another person who isn’t overly fond of the Montreal Junior hockey jersey.

    It could be much much worse, though. I’ll take a bland fusion of Phoenix Coyotes colors/stripes and Anaheim Ducks over the multicolored, cartoony, caricatures that are prevalent in the CHL.

    I’d say it is an upgrade over the last Montreal junior hockey team, the Montreal Rocket. (Notice how the rocket creates a number 9 with the negative space. This is in honor of Maurice “Rocket” Richard, who wore #9 for the Habs).[/quote]

    I’m actually digging the Brampton jersey – not often that you see OD khaki as a base uniform color – and I like the sergeant stripes on the sleeves – hey, the logo could have been more cartoony

  • JeffB | March 11, 2008 at 2:01 pm |

    Perhpas I’m late to this, but I’ve been watching “Hockey – A People’s History” from 2006 and the historical photos and recreations of the turn of the century sweaters are just a joy to see.

    It’s really a missed opportunity to take some of my money from me by not making those early Ottawa Silver Seven/Senators Barberpole sweaters available now that they’ve gone to all the trouble to reproduce them.

    P.S. – Don’t forget Toe Blake when talking of Dit Clapper and Eddie Shore.

  • Duckstyle | March 11, 2008 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”237710″]interesting…while checking into some stirrup history…i stumbled across this article

    check the “further reading” at the bottom of the article…i think the author is known to us[/quote]

    Wow, I read that same article this morning. I just assumed one of you gusy wrote it.

  • Justin McGrail | March 11, 2008 at 2:11 pm |

    Some news out of UNC. Tyler Hansbrough will have his number 50 retired. I just found the article on ESPN. Interesting thing about it is that there’s a list of requirements that need to be met in order to have your jersey retired.

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Justin McGrail | March 11, 2008 at 2:12 pm |

    Some news out of UNC. Tyler Hansbrough will have his number 50 retired. I just found the article on ESPN. Interesting thing about it is that there’s a list of requirements that need to be met in order to have your jersey retired.

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Joe H | March 11, 2008 at 2:39 pm |

    Are there any lawyers in the uniwatch community that would give some free advice?

    I have decided to start a small business and I have some trademark/copyright/patent questions….ask Paul for my email.

  • Ben Park | March 11, 2008 at 2:43 pm |

    Paul, I know you’ve been staying away from all the Pink for Breast Cancer awareness issues recently, but I just wanted to keep you updated on how out of hand it’s gotten.

    Just ask the people in Boulder, CO

  • todd krevanchi | March 11, 2008 at 2:46 pm |

    Re: UNC Jersey Retirement Criteria

    North Carolina has a strict criteria for how any player will be honored within the Smith Center.
    When a given criteria is achieved, the players number and jersey will either be retired or honored.

    A player qualifies to have his number honored if he meets any of the following criteria: ACC Player of the Year; selected by the coaches as MVP of a NCAA championship team; member of a gold medal Olympic team; or a first- or second-team All-America selection.

    A player must be the consensus National Player of the Year to have his jersey retired. This as mentioned in the article.

    That is policy established by the University’s Athletics Council.

  • Ben Park | March 11, 2008 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”237753″]Paul, I know you’ve been staying away from all the Pink for Breast Cancer awareness issues recently, but I just wanted to keep you updated on how out of hand it’s gotten.

    Just ask the people in Boulder, CO

    [this was supposed to go with it.]

  • Anthony Verna | March 11, 2008 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”237752″]Are there any lawyers in the uniwatch community that would give some free advice?

    I have decided to start a small business and I have some trademark/copyright/patent questions….ask Paul for my email.[/quote]

    Joe, it’s what I practice (well, tm and (c) law). law at nyctrademarks.com – lawyers can’t give free advice, but I can point you in correct directions.

  • Cathy | March 11, 2008 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”237716″][quote comment=”237647″]Awesome striped action from the 1901 Minnesota State Champion Waseca Baseball club.[/quote]
    —-

    There is something else quite awsome about that photo…[/quote]

    I noticed the same thing, the second thing I noticed after the socks…awesome.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | March 11, 2008 at 4:02 pm |

    Has this been posted?

  • LI Phil | March 11, 2008 at 4:28 pm |

    you know it’s spring training when the eighty-eights are in

    however, the pic includes a stirrup bonus, thanks to brendan ryan

  • j g | March 11, 2008 at 4:29 pm |

    The Walt Tkaczuk photo is likely from 1973- based on stroy below- Rangers had different uniforms in 1977-78

    http://www.lcshockey...

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | March 11, 2008 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”237778″]The Walt Tkaczuk photo is likely from 1973- based on stroy below- Rangers had different uniforms in 1977-78

    http://www.lcshockey...
    You would be referring to this atrocity?

  • Duckstyle | March 11, 2008 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”237763″][quote comment=”237716″][quote comment=”237647″]Awesome striped action from the 1901 Minnesota State Champion Waseca Baseball club.[/quote]
    —-

    There is something else quite awsome about that photo…[/quote]

    I noticed the same thing, the second thing I noticed after the socks…awesome.[/quote]

    Didn’t even cross my mind until I read this. but I guess that’s a good thing, huh.

  • James Craven | March 11, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”237682″][quote comment=”237674″]“Old time hockey, I tell ya.”[/quote]

    “P!$$ on old time hockey!”[/quote]

    You’ve never seen Slapshot, I assume.

  • Doug | March 11, 2008 at 5:12 pm |

    For the record, Trent Dilfer is not just a friend of John Brodie, he’s Brodie’s son-in-law.

  • al | March 11, 2008 at 5:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”237682″][quote comment=”237674″][quote comment=”237669″]“Dit Clapper, Eddie Shore, those guys were the greats.”[/quote]

    Old time hockey, I tell ya.[/quote]

    Piss on old time hockey![/quote]

    Snatch by the pool —

  • al | March 11, 2008 at 5:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”237779″][quote comment=”237778″]The Walt Tkaczuk photo is likely from 1973- based on stroy below- Rangers had different uniforms in 1977-78

    http://www.lcshockey...
    You would be referring to this atrocity?[/quote]

    You are correct, but that picture is from ’78-79 the year after they abandoned that Ferguson inspired disaster.

  • al | March 11, 2008 at 5:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”237779″][quote comment=”237778″]The Walt Tkaczuk photo is likely from 1973- based on stroy below- Rangers had different uniforms in 1977-78

    http://www.lcshockey...
    You would be referring to this atrocity?[/quote]

    You are correct, but that picture is from ’78-79 the year after they abandoned that Ferguson inspired disaster.

  • who cares | March 11, 2008 at 5:30 pm |

    Not strictly uni-related, but I figured some folks might like to take a gander at the interesting Clericus Cup which is awarded to the best football team comprised of priests. The uniforms seem pretty run of the mill. Too bad, I was kind of hoping for gilding.

  • lwiedy | March 11, 2008 at 6:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”237790″]For the record, Trent Dilfer is not just a friend of John Brodie, he’s Brodie’s son-in-law.[/quote]

    And they’re still friends?

  • Bob from Akron | March 11, 2008 at 6:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”237790″]For the record, Trent Dilfer is not just a friend of John Brodie, he’s Brodie’s son-in-law.[/quote]

    Actually, it’s Chris Chandler, not Trent Dilfer, who’s John Brodie’s son-in-law.

  • Ed Hirsch | March 11, 2008 at 7:04 pm |

    Someone please put a stop to NewEra and the 5150 line. Easter hats with Easter Candy on them. I only wish I was joking.

  • Sammy | March 11, 2008 at 8:45 pm |

    Item 599 in this article dips a bit into Uni Watching–it calls the Warriors 90s uniforms “the most boring uniforms ever.”

  • b. cheng | March 11, 2008 at 9:19 pm |

    not sure if it was brought up previously, but since you have so much hokey stuff today, I thought I’d post this. Friday night the Blackhawks held a ceremony for Hull and Makita, unfortunately instead of having them come out iin the great striped jersey the Hawks wore for the 75th anniversary season or the old school Indian jersey (shown in the Hull phoot you have up today), they had them in RBKEdge jerseys. Also wanted to link to this video (http://youtube.com/w...) it was a special thing done Friday, has lots of great oldtime photos, but also has a cool 3d computer thing the Indian head logo being sewn.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | March 11, 2008 at 9:42 pm |

    I’m glad to see that everyone can ALL agree that the NBA’s “Noche Latino” was a sham. I totally agree with e-mailer Pablo Souki. I’d like to my beloved Chicago teams honor our vast Latino population.

    Cubs – Cachorros
    Bulls – Torros
    White Sox – Medias Blancas
    Bears – Osos
    Blackhawks – …Latinos don’t watch hockey. hahaha!

  • KT | March 11, 2008 at 9:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”237801″][quote comment=”237790″]For the record, Trent Dilfer is not just a friend of John Brodie, he’s Brodie’s son-in-law.[/quote]

    Actually, it’s Chris Chandler, not Trent Dilfer, who’s John Brodie’s son-in-law.[/quote]

    Thank you.

    Though Chris Chandler also wore #12 for parts of his pro career.

  • LI Phil | March 11, 2008 at 9:58 pm |

    guess the slim fast thing didn’t work out so good for tommy

    yeesh

  • Max J. | March 11, 2008 at 10:17 pm |

    I was just watching the US vs. Cuba Olympic qualifier and there was some odd stuff going on:

    1) One of the subs (#13) had a jersey that looked like it was once a #3 and then had a 1 tacked on later. Really odd.

    2) All the Cuba players had numbers on the front and no name on the back. The keeper had “Cuba” across the front and his name (Jose Manuel) on the back.

    3) The US was wearing their World Cup-style jerseys instead of the new ones, and white shorts instead of the usual blue. It actually looked pretty cool.

  • BA | March 11, 2008 at 10:46 pm |

    I guess that titanium stuff really works!!

    Tommy is 80 years old and I heard he got after an umpire today as the guest manager for the dodgers split squad game. Couldn’t find a picture of that…

  • BA | March 11, 2008 at 10:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”237850″]I guess that titanium stuff really works!!

    Tommy is 80 years old and I heard he got after an umpire today as the guest manager for the dodgers split squad game. Couldn’t find a picture of that…[/quote]

    Duh. Tommy is in post #119…and LOOKIN’ GOOD!!!