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A Brief Lesson In History

Edwards

A good number of the comments on yesterday’s post dealt with today’s Manchester United soccer game, where the team will wear a throwback kit in honor of the victims of the 1958 Munich Air Disaster. Setting aside for now the actual looks of the kit, which was disparaged for being boring, it’s best to know a little more about the events being memorialized.

The crash claimed 23 lives, including eight Manchester United players and three staffers. To a soccer-mad country — and for a club with a far-reaching fan base — the crash had a particularly devastating effect. Of the players lost in the crash, most notable was Duncan Edwards. Though only 21 years old, Edwards was the star of the national team — hailed as the world’s next great football talent. The stained-glass window above is from a church in Edwards’ hometown of Dudley, England. Here’s a huge version. That’s his Man U kit on the left and England kit on the right. Said Sir Bobby Charlton, England’s all-time leading scorer:

He was incomparable, I feel terrible trying to explain to people just how good he was, his death was the biggest single tragedy ever to happen to Manchester United and English football. I always felt I could compare well with any player – except Duncan. He was such a talent, I always felt inferior to him. He didn’t have a fault with his game.

To put Edwards’ death into perspective related to American sports history, take Ted Williams’ first four seasons — ages 20 through 23. Over those seasons, he hit 127 home runs, drove in 515 runs, scored 541 runs, and hit for a .356 average. In 1941, he hit .406. After the 1942 season, he went to war. But what if he didn’t come back? What do those stats say about what would have been? Might he be canonized like Edwards? The comparison is apt, though slightly morbid. Edwards’ death likely impacted British soccer for the next dozen years, or more.

But on to the kit itself. Though some details aren’t quite right — the red stripe seems to be missing from the shorts in this shot — it’s a good-faith reproduction. Keep in mind it’s just a promo shot. That may not be the final product. Note also, however, that Edwards’ image on the left pane above is also missing the stripe. Is it boring? Perhaps, but it was 1958. Things were like that then. And a snazzier kit no doubt could have been chosen, but those players didn’t have the luxury of choosing the year of the crash.

Finally, given the historical impact of the event, Manchester United’s remembrance might be considered understated — especially when compared to all of those No. 21s for the NFC team in the Pro Bowl today. I’m willing to take the heat for it (that’s why I got the bigger inbox for my email), but I’ll take a simple, classy, one-time gesture over a press conference memorial any day.

Enjoy your Sunday, folks. — Bryan

 

122 comments to A Brief Lesson In History

  • Mpowers1634 | February 10, 2008 at 7:59 am |

    Let’s make today a GOOD day! Move forward from yesterday’s very disappointing debacle.

    After all, today is a big day for us!

  • S. Bennett | February 10, 2008 at 8:32 am |

    FYI, The red stripe shorts in the picture are actually from the away kit, an all while outfit. The regular first kit in 1958 did not have a stripe. For some reason (hell, could be as simple as the regular whites were dirty) they wore the red stripe shorts in Belgrade. That famous picture, of course, is the last taken of that brilliant squad.

    By the way Bryan, you’ve taken a lot of heat over the weeks about your open thread topics and pics. Today, you kit one out of the park. Right topic, right treatment. A good mix of introduction to the uninitiated, a tone and context that works for those of us who are well aware of this history. Cheers.

    SB

  • Stuby | February 10, 2008 at 8:39 am |

    Looks like the Redskins will be going with Jim Zorn as Head Coach. Here’s hoping he requires all the ‘Skins QBs to wear the cool hip pads and retro facemask.

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 8:39 am |

    [quote]Today, you kit one out of the park.[/quote]

    no pun intended ;)

  • S. Bennett | February 10, 2008 at 8:39 am |

    United v. City: No doubt the pics will come, but both teams look fantastic. Shame about Carlos Tevez’s Jumpman headband, though.

    And reports state the City fans behaved impeccably during the minute’s silence. Fantastic.

    SB

  • Stuby | February 10, 2008 at 8:43 am |

    Oh yeah, Bryan, a very good entry this morning.

  • S. Bennett | February 10, 2008 at 8:52 am |

    [quote comment=”221994″][quote]Today, you kit one out of the park.[/quote]

    no pun intended ;)[/quote]

    Oops. What can I say? Must have been a Freudian slap.

    Hey Now!

    SB

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 9:14 am |

    first pics of man u

    kits feature a black armband, no red stripes on britches

  • who cares | February 10, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    Not old enough to remember the Man U. crash, but I do remember the Zambian National Team crash of fifteen years ago. As often as athletes travel these days, many by rickety old birds outside of the big money leagues, it’s surprising that these tragedies don’t happen more often.

  • primemayhem | February 10, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    The googles, they do nothing…

    http://www.baltimore...

  • C.N. | February 10, 2008 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”221996″]Oh yeah, Bryan, a very good entry this morning.[/quote]

    Yes, it was. Thank you.

  • Philly William | February 10, 2008 at 10:01 am |

    A fitting moment.

  • Richard | February 10, 2008 at 10:06 am |

    Just to add-in a bit more, not only were eight players killed, two others were so injured they could never play again, two more were out of football as a result of injuries within two years, and many others were unavailable for weeks or months afterwards.

    In the immediate aftermath, not only had United lost the entire future of one of the greatest players the world had ever seen, or would ever see, they had also lost so many players that they literally could not put eleven men on the field.

    Gloriously, many teams offered Jimmy Murphy – temporary manager at United – his pick of their squads as loan players until United could get back together. A number of players were permanently transferred, with the transfer fees reduced or even eliminated, as football pulled together to help United recover.

    It took five years for United to put a first-rate side together, with Charlton (a Munich survivor), Law (one of the post-Munich transfers) and Best (arriving from the youth team in 1963). United won the League in 1965 and 1967 and then the European Cup in 1968, just ten years after Munich.

    Hello! Hello! We are the Busby Babes
    Hello! Hello! We are the Busby Babes
    [line censored as this is a family site]
    We all follow United!

  • alex | February 10, 2008 at 10:08 am |

    The German Soccer Federation has released the new away jersey for the euro 2008

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”222008″]The googles, they do nothing…

    http://www.baltimore...

    googles?

    we need more than search engines to protect us ;)

  • TOG | February 10, 2008 at 11:01 am |

    Like the helvetica number treatment on back of the ManU commerorative unis. Sharp.

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Reminds me of the late ’70’s NY Rangers: http://www.nippersfa...

    and Phillies unis from the Mike Schmidt/Steve Carlton era.
    http://ecx.images-am...

  • Bob A | February 10, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”222012″]

    Hello! Hello! We are the Busby Babes
    Hello! Hello! We are the Busby Babes
    [line censored as this is a family site]
    We all follow United![/quote]

    United fans have some interesting songs.

  • who cares | February 10, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    Nice pic of the unis in Manchester.

  • Beats in Buffalo | February 10, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    I’m probably going to be chastized for this but I for one am incredibly sick of these over the top tributes to Sean Taylor, I understand that he was murdered in his own home and left behind a family and that was tragic. Leaving aside perseption of behavior and criminal history, the Broncos lost Darrent Williams in a similar matter in the offseason but no league wide memorial was staged. The Broncos and Pat’s lost players in the offseason in the time after Williams death and before Taylor’s but again no league wide memorial. It’s as if the NFL believes that to be honored league wide you need to die during the regular season or be a pro-bowler. Either leave the tributes to the individual teams or make all memorials league wide.

  • Stuby | February 10, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”222036″]I’m probably going to be chastized for this but I for one am incredibly sick of these over the top tributes to Sean Taylor, I understand that he was murdered in his own home and left behind a family and that was tragic. Leaving aside perseption of behavior and criminal history, the Broncos lost Darrent Williams in a similar matter in the offseason but no league wide memorial was staged. The Broncos and Pat’s lost players in the offseason in the time after Williams death and before Taylor’s but again no league wide memorial. It’s as if the NFL believes that to be honored league wide you need to die during the regular season or be a pro-bowler. Either leave the tributes to the individual teams or make all memorials league wide.[/quote]
    Are you new here?

  • Bob A | February 10, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”222033″]Like the helvetica number treatment on back of the ManU commerorative unis. Sharp.

    http://d.yimg.com/us...

    Reminds me of the late ’70’s NY Rangers: http://www.nippersfa...

    and Phillies unis from the Mike Schmidt/Steve Carlton era.
    http://ecx.images-am...

    As a Ranger fan I was hoping to forget those .

  • Lee | February 10, 2008 at 11:20 am |

    Nice perspective piece, well done Bryan.

    Beats in Buffalo, you aint the only one tired of the Sean Taylor tributes especially in relation the grief The League gave Jake Plummer for his wearing a decal for Pat Tillman.

    Oh and thanks Bryan for subjecting us to a pic of Pitino in a white suit (doing his best Young Col. Saunders look) for another played out gimmick, the arena “white out”

    BTW the Lipscomb (Nashville TN) womens b-ball will do a pink out (unis, coaches, fans) tomorrow nite.

  • KT | February 10, 2008 at 11:37 am |

    Bryan nailed it. I have nothing more to add.

    Except this pic.

  • S. Bennett | February 10, 2008 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”222042″]Nice perspective piece, well done Bryan.

    Beats in Buffalo, you aint the only one tired of the Sean Taylor tributes especially in relation the grief The League gave Jake Plummer for his wearing a decal for Pat Tillman.

    Oh and thanks Bryan for subjecting us to a pic of Pitino in a white suit (doing his best Young Col. Saunders look) for another played out gimmick, the arena “white out”

    BTW the Lipscomb (Nashville TN) womens b-ball will do a pink out (unis, coaches, fans) tomorrow nite.[/quote]

    Many feel the league has totally messed up in the past, particularly in the cases of Tillman and Williams, where his teammates were refused the request to do many of the things Washington players are doing in memory of Taylor.

    BUT, considering how the ST love has faded and turned to derision “but only toward the memorial – not the man”, it looks like the NFL was right all along. Too much of anything is too much for the public, and no, instead of leaving it on an emotional high, people are sick and tired of the memory of Sean Taylor.

    Just imagine how it would look and feel if, in response to the Pat Tillman memorials, people said, “wow – overplayed” instead of “Pat Tillman – what a tragedy”.

    SB

  • Mike | February 10, 2008 at 11:39 am |

    I read the other day that the University of Minnesota was getting new uniforms, and were to introduce them on national signing day. Does anyone have a picture? Or know where I can find one? I already looked on the university site and they aren’t there.

  • tim | February 10, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    To keep up with the tribute but a little different question is Micah Richards not wearing a number on his Shorts. here like the rest of the city players?

  • tim | February 10, 2008 at 12:09 pm |
  • Stan aka the took | February 10, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”222043″]Bryan nailed it. I have nothing more to add.

    Except this pic.[/quote]

    Ahhh I am sorry, I can’t contain myself… Ronaldo you dirty fing diver.

    But the jersey for both teams first class. The moment where both teams away and home held their scarves aloft and the simplicity of their scarves is gorgeous.

    And the Germany away kit although the colors are a little funky they some how work out and look pretty good.

  • =bg= | February 10, 2008 at 12:30 pm |

    http://sports.yahoo....

    Jr. rockin’ the three stripes.

  • Ryan D | February 10, 2008 at 12:58 pm |

    Oddly, Xavier University is wearing classic jerseys to remember the 50th anniversary of the 1958 NIT Champions. No images yet, but the classic font and stripes look much better than the cookie cutter St. Joseph uniforms.

  • Mike from Queens | February 10, 2008 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”222038″]As a Ranger fan I was hoping to forget those .[/quote]

    I always liked those. I know the classic RANGERS diagonal lettering is preferable to most, but those crested jerseys aren’t terrible.

  • Ryan D | February 10, 2008 at 1:05 pm |
  • move on! | February 10, 2008 at 1:12 pm |

    agreed that the ST memorials are far too many in number and overdone. he was a a football player and he died. it was tragic. let’s grieve a bit and move on. this constant, never-ending, long, drawn-out, played-out tribute nonsense is getting tiresome and old. the problem is that it seems insincere, and as with all things NFL, done only for the cash money it hopes to generate. do you think the NFL really gives a rat’s ass about sean taylor, OTHER THAN as regards the publicity-slash-$$$ it generates for itself after his death?

    christ, ST is probably looking down at us now and wondering why the hell roger gooddell and his cronies don’t just move the fuck on. are we going to drag this hype into next season too?

    sorry this is non-uni related.

  • James Craven | February 10, 2008 at 1:22 pm |

    And when John Ferguson the elder took over in Winnipeg, you would like tt forget they brought those unis (with the Jets logo in lieu of the Rangers) with him.

  • Stan | February 10, 2008 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”222044″][quote comment=”222042″]Nice perspective piece, well done Bryan.

    Beats in Buffalo, you aint the only one tired of the Sean Taylor tributes especially in relation the grief The League gave Jake Plummer for his wearing a decal for Pat Tillman.

    Oh and thanks Bryan for subjecting us to a pic of Pitino in a white suit (doing his best Young Col. Saunders look) for another played out gimmick, the arena “white out”

    BTW the Lipscomb (Nashville TN) womens b-ball will do a pink out (unis, coaches, fans) tomorrow nite.[/quote]

    Many feel the league has totally messed up in the past, particularly in the cases of Tillman and Williams, where his teammates were refused the request to do many of the things Washington players are doing in memory of Taylor.

    BUT, considering how the ST love has faded and turned to derision “but only toward the memorial – not the man”, it looks like the NFL was right all along. Too much of anything is too much for the public, and no, instead of leaving it on an emotional high, people are sick and tired of the memory of Sean Taylor.

    Just imagine how it would look and feel if, in response to the Pat Tillman memorials, people said, “wow – overplayed” instead of “Pat Tillman – what a tragedy”.

    SB[/quote]

    Another example of the ridiculousness of the NFL and their restricting of “tributes” was when Peyton Manning wanted to wear black high-tops to honor Johnny Unitas and the league squashed that display…???!!!

    Yes, it’s a shame that Sean Taylor was murdered….but “he who lives that style of life, will perish in that style of death…”

    Time to move on…

  • Dave from Jersey | February 10, 2008 at 1:48 pm |

    BRAVO BRYAN!

  • Dom | February 10, 2008 at 1:54 pm |

    Rutgers women bball will wear pink against Tennesse

    http://www.scarletkn...

  • Andrew | February 10, 2008 at 2:03 pm |

    The refs in the Tulane-Marshall women’s game have pink whistles. If I can grab a picture I will..

  • Kevin M. | February 10, 2008 at 2:11 pm |

    The UGA Lady Bulldogs are in all pink and the Lady LSU Tigers are in white trimmed in pink on EPSN2 right now.

  • Les (Hull, England) | February 10, 2008 at 2:18 pm |

    The commemorative Manchester United shirts are lovely, for a club often criticised for leading the march towards total commercialism, the Nike Swoosh-less and sponsorless jerseys are very classy indeed. Also worthy of note is the decision to not have players names on the back of the shirts, this game was about remembering the ’58 players, not massaging the egos of current ‘stars’.

  • Stan | February 10, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”222082″]The commemorative Manchester United shirts are lovely, for a club often criticised for leading the march towards total commercialism, the Nike Swoosh-less and sponsorless jerseys are very classy indeed. Also worthy of note is the decision to not have players names on the back of the shirts, this game was about remembering the ’58 players, not massaging the egos of current ‘stars’.[/quote]

    NFL…are you paying attention as to how a tribute should be conducted????????????

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    eeesh…purple pumas

    the caption says “refreshes himself”…it looks like cade mcnown redux to me

    the next generation of goalie mask?

    and last but not least, a logo & goggle alert

  • Marc | February 10, 2008 at 2:41 pm |

    good afternoon guys,

    saw something interesting this afternoon.. a picture of Joffrey Lupul of the FLyers wearing a jersey that indicated hes hurt… and while im sure its been used.. i dont think ive ever seen an actual picture of it..

    http://enrico.blogs....

  • Stevo | February 10, 2008 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”222081″]The UGA Lady Bulldogs are in all pink and the Lady LSU Tigers are in white trimmed in pink on EPSN2 right now.[/quote]

    Looks like Nebraska is doing white with pink lettering today, all part of the Think Pink activities to raise breast cancer awareness.

    I forgot to say this when the discussion about the whole Think Pink thing was going on, but I’ll say it now: you need events like Think Pink the same reason you need to take refresher courses to keep your CPR certification, if you go too long without having a reason to think about it, you forget about it.

  • lwiedy | February 10, 2008 at 2:52 pm |

    Nee some help from Gretzky/Oiler fans. Could this photo actually be the great one? I have doubts (CCM helment?) but don’t know enough to say definitively.

    http://i256.photobuc...

  • Stan | February 10, 2008 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”222091″]Nee some help from Gretzky/Oiler fans. Could this photo actually be the great one? I have doubts (CCM helment?) but don’t know enough to say definitively.

    http://i256.photobuc...

    Looks like Kevin Lowe…???!!!??

  • Stan | February 10, 2008 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”222091″]Nee some help from Gretzky/Oiler fans. Could this photo actually be the great one? I have doubts (CCM helment?) but don’t know enough to say definitively.

    http://i256.photobuc...

    Looks like Kevin Lowe…???!!!??

  • lwiedy | February 10, 2008 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”222075″][quote comment=”222044″][quote comment=”222042″]Nice perspective piece, well done Bryan.

    Beats in Buffalo, you aint the only one tired of the Sean Taylor tributes especially in relation the grief The League gave Jake Plummer for his wearing a decal for Pat Tillman.

    Oh and thanks Bryan for subjecting us to a pic of Pitino in a white suit (doing his best Young Col. Saunders look) for another played out gimmick, the arena “white out”

    BTW the Lipscomb (Nashville TN) womens b-ball will do a pink out (unis, coaches, fans) tomorrow nite.[/quote]

    Many feel the league has totally messed up in the past, particularly in the cases of Tillman and Williams, where his teammates were refused the request to do many of the things Washington players are doing in memory of Taylor.

    BUT, considering how the ST love has faded and turned to derision “but only toward the memorial – not the man”, it looks like the NFL was right all along. Too much of anything is too much for the public, and no, instead of leaving it on an emotional high, people are sick and tired of the memory of Sean Taylor.

    Just imagine how it would look and feel if, in response to the Pat Tillman memorials, people said, “wow – overplayed” instead of “Pat Tillman – what a tragedy”.

    SB[/quote]

    Another example of the ridiculousness of the NFL and their restricting of “tributes” was when Peyton Manning wanted to wear black high-tops to honor Johnny Unitas and the league squashed that display…???!!!

    Yes, it’s a shame that Sean Taylor was murdered….but “he who lives that style of life, will perish in that style of death…”

    Time to move on…[/quote]

    Stan-
    Not to open a difficult discussion (I guess it has already been opened), but there is no evidence come to light so far to suggest Taylor’s death was related to any past behavior. Since it was simply logical to have assumed this a time of the shooting, the apparent fact that it was not isn’t insignificant. If you don’t care about Sean Taylor then it’s pretty easy to throw that around, even if it is apparently not true.

  • Teebz | February 10, 2008 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”222070″]And when John Ferguson the elder took over in Winnipeg, you would like tt forget they brought those unis (with the Jets logo in lieu of the Rangers) with him.[/quote]

    Ferguson didn’t bring anything with him. The Jets were in red-white-blue from their times in the WHA. Ferguson was the GM of the Jets during their last season in the WHA before they moved to the NHL, so he couldn’t have brought anything with him to Winnipeg.

    The Rangers actually abandoned those jerseys after the 1977-78 season. Much like Dallas did with the NHL All-Star jerseys, the Jets simply recycled the look because their jerseys in 78-79 were virtually identical to the Rangers’ jerseys.

  • Teebz | February 10, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”222092″][quote comment=”222091″]Nee some help from Gretzky/Oiler fans. Could this photo actually be the great one? I have doubts (CCM helment?) but don’t know enough to say definitively.

    http://i256.photobuc...

    Looks like Kevin Lowe…???!!!??[/quote]

    A very young Steve Smith.

  • Eric B | February 10, 2008 at 3:14 pm |

    i’m going with steve smith. that pic looked nothing like gretzky not to mention that the jersey number that you can see the top of is pointed on the corner. that digit can’t be a 9.

  • lwiedy | February 10, 2008 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”222096″][quote comment=”222092″][quote comment=”222091″]Nee some help from Gretzky/Oiler fans. Could this photo actually be the great one? I have doubts (CCM helment?) but don’t know enough to say definitively.

    http://i256.photobuc...

    Looks like Kevin Lowe…???!!!??[/quote]

    A very young Steve Smith.[/quote]

    Great work Stan & Teebz. It’s funny, that photo was run in the St. Pete Times in relation to a story on the 1985-86 Oilers (re: 2007 Pats) and even mentioned the famous Steve Smith goal but the captioned credited the photo to Gretzky. Thanks guys.

  • James Craven | February 10, 2008 at 3:27 pm |

    Teebs, I was merely talking about the uniforms being recycled, not the colors.

    The Rangers trashed those unis when Fred Shero took over as the coach. The next year, Fergie bought those unis back with Winnipeg.

  • Teebz | February 10, 2008 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”222103″]Teebs, I was merely talking about the uniforms being recycled, not the colors.

    The Rangers trashed those unis when Fred Shero took over as the coach. The next year, Fergie bought those unis back with Winnipeg.[/quote]

    Oh. My bad then. I read it literally as “with him”. Sorry, James! :o)

  • seven | February 10, 2008 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”222082″]Also worthy of note is the decision to not have players names on the back of the shirts. . .[/quote]
    Another uni related note from today’s tribute. Instead of wearing their normal squad numbers, United reverted to the tradition of having the starters wear 1-11. Paul Scholes is normally 18, but was wearing 10, Vidic wears 15, but was in 4 today. John O’Shea, Carlos Tevez, & Nani were the other starters not wearing their normal squad numbers.

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 3:59 pm |

    pink ladies

    UGA vs. LSU

  • Mike | February 10, 2008 at 4:14 pm |

    I was just listening to the Jim Zorn news conference on the radio. He said his family was geared up in the maroon and black. Nice job Snyder. I am so glad the ‘Skins are in the NFC East. MAROON AND BLACK???

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”222120″]MAROON AND BLACK???[/quote]

    it’s the new burgundy & gold

  • Matt | February 10, 2008 at 4:22 pm |

    Come one and all, we are moments away from the Pro-Bowl and all it’s craptastic uni-splendor!

  • Matt | February 10, 2008 at 4:22 pm |

    Come one and all, we are moments away from the Pro-Bowl and all it’s craptastic uni-splendor!

  • Pat | February 10, 2008 at 4:28 pm |

    here is a better picture of the xavier basketball uniforms. I think they turned out great, I wish they would just wear ones that look like that. I’m glad the short “exposing” shorts weren’t wore.

    Xavier Uniforms

  • Wes | February 10, 2008 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”222045″]I read the other day that the University of Minnesota was getting new uniforms, and were to introduce them on national signing day. Does anyone have a picture? Or know where I can find one? I already looked on the university site and they aren’t there.[/quote]

    I heard that too, but I was at the signing day event that evening and there was no uni-related news. Might have been a false rumor.

  • CLC | February 10, 2008 at 4:32 pm |

    I know that pretty much everyone is aware of the Think Pink activities in NCAA women’s basketball, but specifically, the NC State team, whose coach Kay Yow is battling breast cancer, is wearing pink jerseys with every NOB as “Yow” in honor of their coach. Game is being regionally broadcast in ESPN2. I would get a screengrab, but am a poor law student without DVR.

  • Mpowers1634 | February 10, 2008 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”222093″][quote comment=”222091″]Nee some help from Gretzky/Oiler fans. Could this photo actually be the great one? I have doubts (CCM helment?) but don’t know enough to say definitively.

    http://i256.photobuc...

    Looks like Kevin Lowe…???!!!??[/quote]

    Don’t you mean Kevin Love? And does anyone know why the C on his jersey a different color?

  • Mpowers1634 | February 10, 2008 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”222130″][quote comment=”222093″][quote comment=”222091″]Nee some help from Gretzky/Oiler fans. Could this photo actually be the great one? I have doubts (CCM helment?) but don’t know enough to say definitively.

    http://i256.photobuc...

    Looks like Kevin Lowe…???!!!??[/quote]

    Don’t you mean Kevin Love? And does anyone know why the C on his jersey a different color?[/quote]

  • Karl | February 10, 2008 at 4:44 pm |

    Looks like all the Redskins are wearing #21 for the Pro Bowl. One last tribute.

  • Cullan | February 10, 2008 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”222130″][quote comment=”222093″][quote comment=”222091″]Nee some help from Gretzky/Oiler fans. Could this photo actually be the great one? I have doubts (CCM helment?) but don’t know enough to say definitively.

    http://i256.photobuc...

    I believe its because he is a captain
    Looks like Kevin Lowe…???!!!??[/quote]

    Don’t you mean Kevin Love? And does anyone know why the C on his jersey a different color?[/quote]

  • Adam | February 10, 2008 at 5:09 pm |

    It looks like Derek Anderson’s right sleeve patch is upside down.

  • Matt Lesser | February 10, 2008 at 5:10 pm |

    Osi Umenyiora still has his Super Bowl XLII sticker on his helmet. Pictures to come later.

  • MPowers1634 | February 10, 2008 at 5:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”222150″]It looks like Derek Anderson’s right sleeve patch is upside down.[/quote]

    There was a pic of that in the comments section of either Friday or Saturday night!

  • Stevo | February 10, 2008 at 5:56 pm |

    I love Kay Yow to death, but that sweatsuit she’s wearing for Hoops for Hope makes her look like a retiree walking along South Beach.

  • Stan | February 10, 2008 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”222134″]Looks like all the Redskins are wearing #21 for the Pro Bowl. One last tribute.[/quote]

    Let’s all vomit, one last time…overdone…!!!

  • Stan | February 10, 2008 at 6:00 pm |

    Anyone hosting a “Pro Bowl” party???

  • josh | February 10, 2008 at 6:00 pm |

    St. Louis Blues Defenseman Eric Brewer Sported the captain C for the first time last night against the Stars. First time the Note has had a captain this year. Andy Murray was holding out in honor of former Captain Dallas Drake, now a redwing. any one ever heard of a tribute for an in division opponent before other tan a retiring player?

  • Skippy | February 10, 2008 at 6:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”222011″]A fitting moment.[/quote]

    The picture is stunning, but to me probably staged. Notice that all the scarves are ‘retro’ in that no team names and insignia are visible. Compare it to this, another chilling and ispiring piece (although not as good as the one Bill “I love Boston” Simmons linked to a few years ago. That one no longer exists on youtube) of Liverpool fans singing “You Never Walk Alone” to Juventus in memory of the fans who died during their previous meeting in the ’80s.
    http://youtube.com/w...
    Lots of wordmarks, logos, and logocreep in these scarves. Don’t get me wrong, the picture is awesome, the thought awesome, just looks like a ‘free give away scarf day at Old Trafford to enhance the mood. Heck it worked.

  • Skippy | February 10, 2008 at 6:54 pm |

    Crap triple post, after the link click on the moment of silence story.

  • James Craven | February 10, 2008 at 7:10 pm |

    “Xavier Uniforms”[/quote]

    One small problem. The ’58 team didn’t have NOB, and vert arched, either.

  • David | February 10, 2008 at 7:12 pm |

    FOX just showed real footage of the Pro Bowl where Moose Johnston (sp) wore a Packers helmet, I didnt get it and I don’t have TiVo..

  • Wayne | February 10, 2008 at 7:12 pm |

    Darryl Johnston just went through describing the whole Packers helmet issue when he was in the Pro Bowl. Sorry, no transcript.

  • =bg= | February 10, 2008 at 7:19 pm |

    http://www.sfgate.co...

    Naming rights for WRIGLEY FIELD?

  • James Craven | February 10, 2008 at 7:20 pm |

    As per yesterday’s late posts of a pic of Bob Pulford in the all yellow Kings uniform:

    Back in 1979, when Jack Kent Cooke sold the team to Dr. Bus, the yellow pants/breezers/shorts were retired into obscurity (and NHLuniforms.com) history. Can you imagine if the Cooperall pants had not been banned, we’d see all yellow or all purple long pants?

  • =bg= | February 10, 2008 at 7:23 pm |

    In case you, uh, missed this new tennis logo and line….

    http://www.angalo.co...

    and more here.
    http://www.downtheli...

  • James Craven | February 10, 2008 at 7:23 pm |

    Did anyone see Chad Reed in San Diego during the Supercross? He was rocking the Chargers helmet decals and almost retro jersey like Keith Lincoln.

  • Tony In Erie | February 10, 2008 at 7:37 pm |

    Kevin Lowe played for the Edmonton Oilers back in the glory days, and I believe he’s now their GM.

    Kevin Love is a freshman basketball player for UCLA.

    Wow, someone isn’t paying attention.

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 7:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”222188″]In case you, uh, missed this new tennis logo and line….

    http://www.angalo.co...

    and more here.
    http://www.downtheli...

    thanks =bg=

    i could have continued to miss it too, but interesting nonetheless

    ————–

    some obligatory pro-bowl pics

    pant piping is SUPER lame, but i gotta admit, i don’t mind the plumeria pattern in the jerseys

  • Kevin Z. | February 10, 2008 at 8:00 pm |

    LI Phil, where did you find Pro Bowl pictures already?

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 8:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”222195″]LI Phil, where did you find Pro Bowl pictures already?[/quote]

    yahoo sports photos for those, but also you can check reuters

  • TOG | February 10, 2008 at 8:10 pm |

    Reebok used the same “sublimated” uniform star pattern as the Orlando Magic used for a few seasons. Ironically the pattern was designed by clothing designer, Jhane Barnes.

    Jhane Barnes (loves heavy patterns and prints, obviously)…
    http://www.jhanebarn...

    Devin Hester/NFL Pro Bowl unis
    http://www.nfl.com/p...

    Wilkins/Magic
    http://www.mentalflo...

    Ewing/Magic
    http://www.mentalflo...

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 8:14 pm |

    thanks TOG…that’s some great info

    to paraphrase johnny carson…i did not know that

  • S. Bennett | February 10, 2008 at 8:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”222184″]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/02/10/financial/f114715S93.DTL&tsp=1

    Naming rights for WRIGLEY FIELD?[/quote]

    The way I see it, you build the field for the team, you get to name it.

    ‘Nuff said.

    SB

  • Stuby | February 10, 2008 at 8:19 pm |

    Who decided that the NFC was always going to be blue and the AFC red? Was it decided by the same person who determined the colors for the political parties? (i.e. red and blue states).

    A Packer helmet, by the way, goes with neither red nor blue.

  • S. Bennett | February 10, 2008 at 8:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”222176″][quote comment=”222011″]A fitting moment.[/quote]

    The picture is stunning, but to me probably staged. Notice that all the scarves are ‘retro’ in that no team names and insignia are visible. Don’t get me wrong, the picture is awesome, the thought awesome, just looks like a ‘free give away scarf day at Old Trafford to enhance the mood. Heck it worked.[/quote]

    It was, in fact, a giveaway. I love free stuff, especially when it doenst have “brought to you by Fred’s Car emporium” all over it.”

    I’d say 76,000 free scarves is a tremendous gesture. If that’s what bought quiet for the minute’s silence, then it was money well spent.

    SB

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 8:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”222213″]Who decided that the NFC was always going to be blue and the AFC red? Was it decided by the same person who determined the colors for the political parties? (i.e. red and blue states).

    A Packer helmet, by the way, goes with neither red nor blue.[/quote]

    that’s a good question stoob..as long as i can remember, it’s always been that way…yesterday i was checking out old pro bowl photos…and in every one, the nfc was solid “home” blue and the afc was “road” white w/red (either pants or numerals or both)

    and a viking helmet goes with neither

  • TOG | February 10, 2008 at 8:32 pm |

    thanks TOG…that’s some great info

    to paraphrase johnny carson…i did not know that

    More good “I did not know that stuff” for you Lil Phil…

    Here are some fashion designers who designed (quasi designed, I did most of the work and the NBA PR mavens spun the story for the fashion slant)? Paul’s a writer, he can explain…

    Jhane Barnes for the Magic//
    1998-99 – 2002-03 — For the Magic’s 10th anniversary they introduced a new look designed by fashion designer Jhane Barnes. They removed the pinstripes, but the silky home and away uniforms featured stars as the background. The home jersey is white, with blue Magic logo and numbers with black trim. The blue away uniforms had a white Magic logo (the team dropped the city name for the road uniform) and numbers with black trim.

    Alexander Julian Charlotte Hornets//
    Julian has designed uniforms for sports teams such as the Charlotte Hornets and North Carolina University Tar Heels basketball teams, and the uniforms, car colors, and crew clothes for the Newman Haas racing team, which is co-owned by Paul Newman.

    P Diddy Dallas Mavs alternate green//
    Diddy will design the Dallas Mavericks’ alternate uniforms for the 2004-2005 season, representatives of the NBA team said Friday (December 5).

    “The future is now,” Mavericks merchandising director Tim Henning said from Dallas. “We think he’s the perfect designer for this kind of project. He knows design, he knows what’s happening in terms of what we think is street-credible. Nobody out there is as equipped as Puff — and Sean John, specifically — to take on a project like this. [People] are wearing uniforms as fashion, and who’s the guy on top in urban fashion? P. Diddy.”

    http://www.mtv.com/n...

    Cary Mitchell Charlotte Bobcats//
    “The Charlotte Bobcats’ new uniform has an attention to detail that is unparalleled,” said Cary Mitchell of Cary Mitchell Designs in Charlotte, who designs apparel for a long list of professional athletes and celebrities. “It brings together the traditional NBA uniform look in a fashion-forward and sophisticated design that fans will enjoy.”

    “The new Charlotte Bobcats uniform is an exciting combination of classic NBA style and progressive detailing, and we’re looking forward to seeing it on court this fall as the Bobcats launch their inaugural campaign,” said Christopher Arena, senior director of apparel licensing for the National Basketball Association, which worked together with the Charlotte Bobcats, Charlotte clothing designer Cary Mitchell, Tom O’Grady of Gameplan Branding Group and Reebok as the architects of the Bobcats identity.

    http://www.nba.com/b...

  • TOG | February 10, 2008 at 8:35 pm |

    Sorry for the long post. To make up for it, I’ve included a cool site off the Pantone main site that captures the original team colors of the Charlotte Hornets. Donovan Moore must be smiling out in Denver…check it out!!!

    http://www.pantone.c...

  • Art | February 10, 2008 at 8:37 pm |

    UCLA Women’s Basketball went pink today versus Washington for the ‘Think Pink’ promotion that’s going all over the country right now.

  • TOG | February 10, 2008 at 8:38 pm |

    More goodies. Official Pantone sports team colors…this should be expanded for sure.

    http://www.pantone.c...

  • TOG | February 10, 2008 at 8:53 pm |

    Rick Mount’s sweater. Niccccccceeee…
    http://hoopedia.nba....

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 8:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”222226″]More goodies. Official Pantone sports team colors…this should be expanded for sure.

    http://www.pantone.c...

    effin sweet! who knew super bowl XLII had so many colors? and of course…the ‘boys…what’s that…SEVEN shades of blue/gray

    awesome man, thx

  • TOG | February 10, 2008 at 9:05 pm |

    Ah ha…It is Donovan Moore. Color God and all around good guy.

    http://www.pantone.c...

    Nice.

  • Brien P. | February 10, 2008 at 9:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”222225″]UCLA Women’s Basketball went pink today versus Washington for the ‘Think Pink’ promotion that’s going all over the country right now.[/quote]

    Was the ECAC the only hockey conference doing this too? They held a “Pink at the Rink” weekend (Colgate today and yesterday) and is auctioning off the jerseys.

  • TOG | February 10, 2008 at 9:43 pm |

    A Uniwatch “been there done that” but the collage is nice.
    http://images.google...

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 9:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”222244]yesterday[/quote]

    imagine the headline if the raiders had lost

  • patrick | February 10, 2008 at 10:08 pm |

    Not sure who, if anyone reads blogs, but they have a post on the pro bowl and the 3rd or so comment reads
    “These uniforms make Paul Lucas cry” . Interesting place to find a uniwatch reference

  • Jordan Pope | February 10, 2008 at 10:13 pm |

    I was at the probowl today and I was wondering if Al Harris will get a fine for his socks they were all white

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 10:29 pm |

    remembering #21

    and now we close the book on the 2007 season

  • =bg= | February 10, 2008 at 10:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”222211″][quote comment=”222184″]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/02/10/financial/f114715S93.DTL&tsp=1

    Naming rights for WRIGLEY FIELD?[/quote]

    The way I see it, you build the field for the team, you get to name it.

    ‘Nuff said.

    SB[/quote]

    Wrigley Field is already built. It’s named. Changing Wrigley’s name would be like naming Fenway. Or Yankee Stadium. If the new owner wants to change Wrigley Field’s name to, say, Wal-mart Field…I BET the city of Chicago would have something to say.

  • Mike Engle | February 10, 2008 at 10:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”222255″]Not sure who, if anyone reads blogs, but they have a post on the pro bowl and the 3rd or so comment reads
    “These uniforms make Paul Lucas cry” . Interesting place to find a uniwatch reference[/quote]
    Care to link?

  • patrick | February 10, 2008 at 10:59 pm |

    wow,
    replace blogs with deadspin.

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 11:12 pm |

    when the moon hits your eye…that’s amare

    …and GOD i hate the wiz’ unis

  • David | February 10, 2008 at 11:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”222268″][quote comment=”222255″]Not sure who, if anyone reads blogs, but they have a post on the pro bowl and the 3rd or so comment reads
    “These uniforms make Paul Lucas cry” . Interesting place to find a uniwatch reference[/quote]
    Care to link?[/quote]
    Here

  • S. Bennett | February 10, 2008 at 11:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”222267″][quote comment=”222211″][quote comment=”222184″]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/02/10/financial/f114715S93.DTL&tsp=1

    Naming rights for WRIGLEY FIELD?[/quote]

    The way I see it, you build the field for the team, you get to name it.

    ‘Nuff said.

    SB[/quote]

    Wrigley Field is already built. It’s named. Changing Wrigley’s name would be like naming Fenway. Or Yankee Stadium. If the new owner wants to change Wrigley Field’s name to, say, Wal-mart Field…I BET the city of Chicago would have something to say.[/quote]

    Ummm, that was my point. William Wrigley built what we now know as Wrigley field. You build it, you get to name it. For the Cubs to talk about lost revenue streams… that man WAS their revenue stream for years. Without his largess, they probably don’t exist today.

    As for the cash cow that is naming rights, I’m baffled. I can’t figure out why naming rights fees are going up when every time you change the name, the building edges closer and closer to becoming “whatever arena”. That place in Sunrise, FL, wherever the Panthers play… how many names has it gone through? Rental cars, Video stores… who actually keeps track anymore? I don’t, and I doubt I’m alone.

    SB

  • john in DC | February 10, 2008 at 11:38 pm |

    the supposed new 2008 Stanley Cup Final patch

  • Marc | February 10, 2008 at 11:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”222288″]the supposed new 2008 Stanley Cup Final patch[/quote]

    wow… im pretty sure that would look terrible on every jersey in the NHL beside the Lightning’s…. why doesnt the NHL realize that Black and Blue are not the way to go? at least put some red in it…

    another terrible job…

  • LI Phil | February 10, 2008 at 11:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”222290″][quote comment=”222288″]the supposed new 2008 Stanley Cup Final patch[/quote]

    wow… im pretty sure that would look terrible on every jersey in the NHL beside the Lightning’s…. why doesnt the NHL realize that Black and Blue are not the way to go? at least put some red in it…

    another terrible job…[/quote]

    might look good on the leafs

    /HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Talon Lardner | February 10, 2008 at 11:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”222274″]when the moon hits your eye…that’s amare

    …and GOD i hate the wiz’ unis[/quote]

    And yet if they were used back in the 70s, we’d all be loving them.

  • Marc | February 10, 2008 at 11:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”222291″][quote comment=”222290″][quote comment=”222288″]the supposed new 2008 Stanley Cup Final patch[/quote]

    wow… im pretty sure that would look terrible on every jersey in the NHL beside the Lightning’s…. why doesnt the NHL realize that Black and Blue are not the way to go? at least put some red in it…

    another terrible job…[/quote]

    might look good on the leafs

    /HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA[/quote]

    the Leafs? who are they? im pretty sure the Stanley Cup patch is only eligible for NHL teams.

  • LI Phil | February 11, 2008 at 12:06 am |

    anyone catch the end of the suns-wiz game? amare took off his jersey and he had the flak jacket (like that which was posted last week on nate robinson)

    i wonder how many ballers wear those things

  • Mike Engle | February 11, 2008 at 12:23 am |

    [quote comment=”222292″][quote comment=”222274″]when the moon hits your eye…that’s amare

    …and GOD i hate the wiz’ unis[/quote]

    And yet if they were used back in the 70s, we’d all be loving them.[/quote]
    Actually, they’d still be stupid. Basketball jerseys, match basketball shorts. End of story.

  • Zach Smith | February 11, 2008 at 2:20 am |

    [quote comment=”222296″]anyone catch the end of the suns-wiz game? amare took off his jersey and he had the flak jacket (like that which was posted last week on nate robinson)

    i wonder how many ballers wear those things[/quote]

    If I had to guess, more than most people think.

    We know most are wearing the padded compression shorts now, so it only makes sense they’d be doing it on top as well.

  • JT | February 11, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment=”222244″][quote comment=”222225″]UCLA Women’s Basketball went pink today versus Washington for the ‘Think Pink’ promotion that’s going all over the country right now.[/quote]

    Was the ECAC the only hockey conference doing this too? They held a “Pink at the Rink” weekend (Colgate today and yesterday) and is auctioning off the jerseys.[/quote]

    The ECHL is apparently doing it, too. I know the Gwinnett Gladiators played on pink ice this last weekend.

  • Rick from Cedar Park TX | February 12, 2008 at 9:34 pm |

    Stupid GD Toy Poodle wins the Toy group at Westminster. The GD Standard Poodle won its group last night. I HATE poodles!!!