The Ruptured Duck

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On the “Dressed to the Nines” page devoted to patches, there’s a small paragraph that reads as follows:

In 1945, former servicemen Peanuts Lowrey, Paul Gillespie and Mickey Livingston of the Chicago Cubs were each allowed to wear a special honorable discharge patch, affectionately known as the “ruptured duck,” on their sleeve. Though other clubs discussed the idea, apparently no other players donned these patches.

There are no photos accompanying that text, and I’d never seen a shot of the patch in question until a few days ago, when I got a note from reader Daniel Ostroff-Moskowitz. “I recently went to the National World War II Museum in New Orleans, where they have an exhibit on baseball during the war,” he wrote. “I saw these pictures which I found to be interesting.” Sure enough, that’s the ruptured duck being worn by Lowrey, Gillespie, and Livingston.

But what intrigued me more was the museum’s exhibit caption, which Daniel also photographed. As you can see, it mentions a letter that expressed concern about “how those players who didn’t serve [in the war] might be received and even ostracized by fans due to the patch,” which is apparently why the patch wasn’t used by other teams. Unfortunately, Daniel didn’t photograph the letter itself, which I was curious to see.

So I contacted Tom Shieber at the Hall of Fame. Sure enough, he had the letter (which, incidentally, was sent by American League prexy Will Harridge to representatives of four of the eight A.L. clubs, not to National League teams as stated in the museum caption). Since it’s hard to read at that size, here’s a transcript:

July 17, 1945

Messrs. Harry Grabiner
Donald L. Barnes
Jack Zeller
Alva Bradley

Gentlemen:

I enclose herewith sample of the emblem which the War Department has issued to be worn by boys honorably discharged from the service. The sample I am sending you was prepared by the Chicago Embrodiery [sic] Company, which furnished the shield now worn by our ball players.

One Major League Club, at least, The Chicago Cubs, has this emblem attached to the uniform of their players honorably discharged. I will leave it to your judgment as to whether or not this is desirable. There are two sides to it, of course. It may attract too much attention to players who, through no fault of their own, did not enter the service.

If you desire any of the emblems, we will be glad to furnish them on receipt of advice with the number.

As I had only four samples, will ask that you return the enclosed at the earliest possible date so that I can contact the four eastern clubs.

With best wishes, I am

Sincerely yours,

{Signature} Will Harridge {End of signature}
President

There are several remarkable things about this letter, but the one that stands out is Harridge’s recognition that healthy patriotism can often mutate into ugly jingoism. It’s hard to imagine any league president or commissioner exhibiting that kind of foresight and courage today, in an era where some folks treat American flag lapel pins as loyalty litmus tests.

A few other notes regarding the ruptured duck:

• Although “Dressed to the Nines” states that only three Cubs wore the patch, Todd Radom has come up with a fourth: Hiram Bithorn.

• Red Ruffing of the Yankees also wore the patch. No photo, though.

• Finally, take a look at that patch. It’s an eagle, not a duck, and what exactly is “ruptured” about it? According to Wikipedia, the term’s genesis is unknown — but that’s, y’know, Wikipedia. Anyone know more about this?

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NYC Party Info: Okay, we’re good to go for a Brooklyn Uni Watch party on Saturday, February 2nd (the day before the Super Bowl). We’ll convene at 2:30 p.m. at Sheep Station, an Aussie-themed pub with plenty of beer choices, a short but excellent menu of chow options, and plenty of room to stretch out. See you there. OK? OK.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Remember how I didn’t have any photos to go with yesterday’s lead entry? Still don’t have any, but we now have a video clip that shows exactly what was going on (big thanks to Mike King). … Got an interesting note yesterday from Orlando Rodriguez, who writes: “With Monday being the Martin Luther King Day, it reminded me of a period when Arizona didn’t have an official MLK holiday (which led the rap group Public Enemy to cancel their sold-out concert in Phoenix), so the Arizona basketball team wore an MLK patch on their uniforms and warm-ups. I remember the first time I saw it, it looked like it said MILK (I was probably around 10 years old). Have any other teams taken a political stance on jerseys?” … David Kranz reports that many people on something called the Jam Cruise (which sounds like a nightmare and a half) were wearing these bizarre-o glitter helmets. Where’s that giant iceberg when you need it? … Lots of gorgeous views here of a game-used 1965 Reds vest, complete with subscript NOB (with thanks to Robert Eden). … As many of you know, the WFL briefly experimented with position-specific pant designs. Whenever that topic comes up, the photo that people refer to is always this one. Anyone got any others? … Some genius on YouTube has come to the brilliant conclusion that authentic NBA jerseys might not be such a good bargain. … Glynn McGehee noticed Georgia Tech wearing some cool sneakers the other day. As always, I’m too sneaker-clueless to know whether these are actually a new design, so I consulted our own Todd Krevanchi, who says, “That shoe is the Nike Zoom BB. The schools that wear these shoes often get exclusive colorways. USC has recently been wearing a maroon/yellow version, which readers on the Nike Talk blog have described as ‘Ronald McDonald’ shoes.” … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: The New York Post ran an interview with R. W. McQuarters on Sunday. Here’s the uni-pertinent part: “Q: [What's up with] the SpongeBob bandage you used to wear under your right eye? A: Last year was Dora, SpongeBob and a little bit of Scooby-Doo. So this year, it was Hello Kitty, but I ran out of Hello Kitty Band-Aids, so in my bag I just had a bunch of Band-Aids from last year, and I pulled out one and it happened to be SpongeBob. Q: Why under the right eye? A: Demond Parker, we went to the same high school, and our first varsity game he said, ‘Man, we’re gonna wear a Band-Aid up under the right eye.’ I don’t know what it meant.” Man, is that a contender for World’s Least Satisfying Interview Segment Ever or what? … Good article here about the Canadiens’ equipment manager (with thanks to Casey B). … Monday’s Ticker item about old NFL kiddie merch prompted Thomas Turner to send in some photos from his own collection, including these Rawlings helmets (note the black Saints model, which was only used during the 1969 preseason), these MacGregor helmet, and this MacGregor ad. Surprised to see Johnny U. wearing a MacGreger lid — did he ever wear one on the field? Thought he was strictly a Riddell man. … Not uni-related, but Vince just pointed me toward this site which is full of college poll-ranking info — recommended. … The annoying and thoroughly unacceptable advertising sleeve patch worn by the A’s and Red Sox for their season-opening series in Japan will look like this. Depressing details here. … Great contribution from Chris Cruz, who reports that the Emerald City Gazette uses soccer jerseys to denote its issue numbers, as seen here and here (lots of additional examples here). I really, really like that. … Much worse (although in a sort of delicious kind of way) is the All Sports Band, an unlistenable hard-rock outfit dressed in athletic garb. Major points to anyone who can get though this entire video clip without puking (blame Tom Richards, not me). … Decent article here about NASCAR auto numbers (courtesy of Adam deNobriga). … Interesting observation from James DeFrank, who writes: “This week’s Senior Bowl features something that I can’t ever recall seeing in an all-star-type game: Two of the North’s quarterbacks are Chad Henne of Michigan and Joe Flacco of Delaware, who wear nearly identical helmets (just a different shade of blue). During practice this week, it appears that the coaches, organizers, or even Flacco himself have decided to distinguish Flacco from Henne by outfitting him in a generic white helmet. Unfortunately I can’t find a picture but the white helmet is seen and even mentioned in a video clip on this page.” … Special thanks to the several readers I saw at last night’s Union Hall event — good times.

 

236 comments to The Ruptured Duck

  • ryan c #40 | January 23, 2008 at 8:24 am |

    great display of some classic uniforms over at spawn.com:

    http://www.spawn.com...

    when i think warren moon, i think techmo bowl dominance!

  • T-Wood | January 23, 2008 at 8:55 am |

    Anyone know the deal with the blue Colts helmet in the Tony Dungy press conference?????

    Not good at linking but here is something you can copy and paste.

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Talon Lardner | January 23, 2008 at 8:59 am |

    In my opinion, I think the “I don’t know, I’ve always done it this way” sort of uniform quirk/tradition is one of my favorite sort of answers. ot everything has to have some vast sort of meaning or purpose, just as sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar. Routine is confort for a LOT of people.

  • Kyle | January 23, 2008 at 9:00 am |

    [quote comment="208611"]Anyone know the deal with the blue Colts helmet in the Tony Dungy press conference?????

    Not good at linking but here is something you can copy and paste.

    http://sports.yahoo....

    I wouldn’t read too much into it. The Colts aren’t changing their uniforms. And I’ve seen reversed images like that around Indy for years. It’s just a graphic, not a representation of something we’ll see on the field.

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 9:02 am |

    ok…when paul posted this, who didn’t immediately think of this?

    you know you did

  • KK | January 23, 2008 at 9:10 am |

    I think my previous post got eaten.

    But, here’s Joe Flacco in the white helmet and Chad Henne in the Michigan “wing” helmet.

    Picture

    I think they could have let them both wear the helmet, they’re two different shades of blue.

    Hopefully Flacco gets to wear his Delaware helmet during the game.

  • Richard from MA | January 23, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    The NBA Authentics video guy asks why they don’t make Authentics authentic.

    So….

    Why don’t they make Authentics authentic? Is it just the higher margins of offshore production? Lead times? Cussedness?

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    joe flacco of delaware

    i think this might be the missing link

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 23, 2008 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment="208618"]ok…when paul posted this, who didn’t immediately think of this?

    you know you did[/quote]

    My hand’s raised.

  • DenverGregg | January 23, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    Ruptured Duck –

    When I was 19, I asked my dad if I could wear his Eisenhower jacket. He agreed, so long as we removed the ruptured duck patch. I asked him why it was called that. He said the circle reminded folks of a truss – the common way to deal with a rupture. The “duck”, in his opinion, was a play on “lame duck” as only those no longer on active duty would wear that insignia.

  • neal s | January 23, 2008 at 9:22 am |

    I think “ruptured” probably refers to the way the outer ring intersects the right wing. I thought it was a visually jarring effect even before I read the entry.

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 9:24 am |
  • todd krevanchi | January 23, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    [quote comment="208629"]I think my previous post got eaten.

    But, here’s Joe Flacco in the white helmet and Chad Henne in the Michigan “wing” helmet.

    Picture

    I think they could have let them both wear the helmet, they’re two different shades of blue.

    Hopefully Flacco gets to wear his Delaware helmet during the game.[/quote]

    i hope so too…
    flacco had a better season than henne…

  • ML | January 23, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    [quote comment="208629"]I think my previous post got eaten.

    But, here’s Joe Flacco in the white helmet and Chad Henne in the Michigan “wing” helmet.

    Picture

    I think they could have let them both wear the helmet, they’re two different shades of blue.

    Hopefully Flacco gets to wear his Delaware helmet during the game.[/quote]

    Agreed! UD wears Royal Blue.

    Go Joe!

  • Christopher | January 23, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    [quote comment="208611"]Anyone know the deal with the blue Colts helmet in the Tony Dungy press conference?????

    Not good at linking but here is something you can copy and paste.

    http://sports.yahoo....

    Its no so much that it is blue… its just white lines, not colored in. It happens to be on blue material (a blue that isn’t even their color blue).

  • Floormaster Squeeze | January 23, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    I think there was some controversy and resentment about the role of baseball players in the military in WWII. A few players served like every other soldier and many were awarded for valor. However, I am pretty sure that most of those who served (and there were some that called in special favors to avoid service) served in a largely symbolic capacity. Playing unit or service baseball games were a full time job for the majority of baseball players called into service.

    I think it is great that majority thought they would rather not wear on their uniforms.

  • scott | January 23, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    It’s hard to imagine any league president or commissioner exhibiting that kind of foresight and courage today, in an era where some folks treat American flag lapel pins as loyalty litmus tests.

    Um, that was a controversy of Obama’s own making… some believe he insulted people who do wear flag pins by claiming their patriotism might be phony.

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 23, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment="208659"][quote comment="208611"]Anyone know the deal with the blue Colts helmet in the Tony Dungy press conference?????

    Not good at linking but here is something you can copy and paste.

    http://sports.yahoo....

    Its no so much that it is blue… its just white lines, not colored in. It happens to be on blue material (a blue that isn’t even their color blue).[/quote]

    If y’all are talking about the helmet image on the podium then you are looking for controversy (conspiracy?) where there is none. It’s fairly obvious to me that the podium front is just a piece of black plastic (or like material) with an outline of the helmet in white. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • ryan c #40 | January 23, 2008 at 9:41 am |

    another raptured duck???

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Paul Lukas | January 23, 2008 at 9:48 am |

    Henne/Flacco links in the Ticker now fixed.

  • Joey Guns | January 23, 2008 at 9:51 am |

    The annoying and thoroughly unacceptable advertising sleeve patch worn by the A’s and Red Sox for their season-opening series in Japan will look like this. Depressing details here. …

    They couldn’t even give that Asian guy the new hat? They had to give him a 2006 leftover hat with the grey underbill? Geeze…..

  • Pat | January 23, 2008 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment="208618"]ok…when paul posted this, who didn’t immediately think of this?

    you know you did[/quote]

    Not me. For some reason I immediately thought of this show.

  • Joe H | January 23, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    Surprised to see Johnny U. wearing a MacGreger lid — did he ever wear one on the field?

    Here is a pic I took of a Unitas game helmet at Baltimore’s Sports Legends Museum. I don’t know much about helmets, so I’m not sure if it’s a MacGreger or not.

  • Joey Guns | January 23, 2008 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment="208618"]ok…when paul posted this, who didn’t immediately think of this?

    you know you did[/quote]

    Leader in the clubhouse for the comment of the day, and it came at 9:02 AM!

  • Paul Lukas | January 23, 2008 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment="208666"]It’s hard to imagine any league president or commissioner exhibiting that kind of foresight and courage today, in an era where some folks treat American flag lapel pins as loyalty litmus tests.

    Um, that was a controversy of Obama’s own making… some believe he insulted people who do wear flag pins by claiming their patriotism might be phony.[/quote]

    You’re the one creating a controversy here — where did I refer to Obama??

  • Al | January 23, 2008 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment="208638"]The NBA Authentics video guy asks why they don’t make Authentics authentic.

    So….

    Why don’t they make Authentics authentic? Is it just the higher margins of offshore production? Lead times? Cussedness?[/quote]

    Two words:

    e Bay.

    If you make an authentic too good, it’s easy to make a counterfeit “game worn” jersey. There was an article in USA Today about how the Astros replicas by Majestic have a felt star rather than a screen-printed or tackle-twill star.

    Mitchell & Ness does its best to replicate everything, but even then, there are limits to exactly how far it will go to replicate The Actual Jersey.

  • Al | January 23, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment="208666"]It’s hard to imagine any league president or commissioner exhibiting that kind of foresight and courage today, in an era where some folks treat American flag lapel pins as loyalty litmus tests.

    Um, that was a controversy of Obama’s own making… some believe he insulted people who do wear flag pins by claiming their patriotism might be phony.[/quote]

    Patriotism is the refuge of the scoundrel. Exhibit A: Don King.

  • KU Student | January 23, 2008 at 10:14 am |

    Joe Flacco’s helmet never arrived from Delaware. They gave him the generic white helmet while at the Senior Bowl, as they usually keep a handful of extra helmets around. His helmet should arrive by gametime, so he will be wearing it. NFL Network has been broadcasting the Senior Bowl practices this past week and they mentioned it on Monday. The practices are at 10:30 and 4:30 for the rest of the week, so his helmet could arrive at any time. Somehow the forgotten helmet problem has occured before in this game, with the player wearing the same plain white helmet as Flacco.

  • diz | January 23, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment="208618"]ok…when paul posted this, who didn’t immediately think of this?

    you know you did[/quote]

    So which one out of the All Sports band’s the one who actually is gay then? A fun game for all the family!

  • Mike from Queens | January 23, 2008 at 10:20 am |

    I love the fact that we can make jokes about events where just over 1500 people died. So good to see someone get bent out of shape about something that wasn’t even political when there’s a clear swipe at the most famous (infamous?) maritime disaster of the last century. No sarcasm here, Paul. I loved it.

    Did anyone else find this kind of thing a little creepy? Maybe its a function of the way these kinds of issues are covered nowadays, but grown men who collect pictures of young boy models in uniforms makes me a little uncomfortable. I’m in no way suggesting anything, but I’m kind of curious if I’m the only one who saw it and reacted in a weird way.

    It’s kind of a shame that when I saw that I had an immediately negative reaction–the guy’s clearly reliving his own childhood–but, in the same breath, I can’t be alone. Again, not a judgment, but more of a personal observation.

  • LauraE | January 23, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment="208687"][quote comment="208666"]It’s hard to imagine any league president or commissioner exhibiting that kind of foresight and courage today, in an era where some folks treat American flag lapel pins as loyalty litmus tests.

    Um, that was a controversy of Obama’s own making… some believe he insulted people who do wear flag pins by claiming their patriotism might be phony.[/quote]

    You’re the one creating a controversy here — where did I refer to Obama??[/quote]

    Not trying to stir the controversy pot, but just wanted to note that while yes, a recent “controversy” (read: slow news day) came about due to some Presidential candidates, the flag pin issue has been a point of contention since 9/11.

    It reminds me of the Sean Taylor decal. Where is the stopping point? It’s not an issue of whether it’s right or wrong for players to still be wearing, it’s about Goodell lacking foresight on the issue.

    Just my $.02.

  • dm00n [Doug] | January 23, 2008 at 10:27 am |

    I have an old Rawlings Giants youth helmet from when I was a kid that I need to put on eBay. Apparently my mom is sick of it, and I have realized I don’t need that many things from when I was a kid. Not as vintage as those though, has the Giants wordmark.

  • Jon | January 23, 2008 at 10:27 am |

    As a former Fightin’ Blue Hen I can tell you that Delaware’s helmets essentially are Michigan’s helmets. They were based on their design so as to honor the alma mater of their longtime athletic director (David Nelson) and their former coach, Tubby Raymond. I do believe also that Delaware’s (awesome) fight song is also based on the counter-melody of Michigan’s.

  • Dennis Abrams | January 23, 2008 at 10:32 am |

    The page with the NBDL video also has an AHL video. It says the Idaho Stampede and Alska Aces are wearing the uniforms of their parent clubs (Dallas and St. Louis) but they’re both wearing last year’s uniforms.

  • denverjason | January 23, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    I think McQuarter’s answers is one of the best I’ve ever heard. Q: Why do you wear a Sponge Bob band-aid? A: Because I ran out of Hello Kitty band-aids.

    I love it.

  • derek | January 23, 2008 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment="208712"][quote comment="208687"][quote comment="208666"]It’s hard to imagine any league president or commissioner exhibiting that kind of foresight and courage today, in an era where some folks treat American flag lapel pins as loyalty litmus tests.

    Um, that was a controversy of Obama’s own making… some believe he insulted people who do wear flag pins by claiming their patriotism might be phony.[/quote]

    You’re the one creating a controversy here — where did I refer to Obama??[/quote]

    Not trying to stir the controversy pot, but just wanted to note that while yes, a recent “controversy” (read: slow news day) came about due to some Presidential candidates, the flag pin issue has been a point of contention since 9/11.

    It reminds me of the Sean Taylor decal. Where is the stopping point? It’s not an issue of whether it’s right or wrong for players to still be wearing, it’s about Goodell lacking foresight on the issue.

    Just my $.02.[/quote]
    ugh here we go…

  • derek | January 23, 2008 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment="208718"]The page with the NBDL video also has an AHL video. It says the Idaho Stampede and Alska Aces are wearing the uniforms of their parent clubs (Dallas and St. Louis) but they’re both wearing last year’s uniforms.[/quote]
    I believe the alaska aces are part of the ECHL

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 10:40 am |

    Paul – I have video somewhere that shows the various multi-colored WFL pants in action (more than just the two in the often-referred-to shot you linked). I’ll try to make screen grabs when I get home tonight.

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    Also, the upcoming Joe Montana 2 McFarlane shows him in the uniforms the 49ers should never have abandoned and should go back to forthwith.

  • Robin | January 23, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment="208720"][quote comment="208712"][quote comment="208687"][quote comment="208666"]It’s hard to imagine any league president or commissioner exhibiting that kind of foresight and courage today, in an era where some folks treat American flag lapel pins as loyalty litmus tests.

    Um, that was a controversy of Obama’s own making… some believe he insulted people who do wear flag pins by claiming their patriotism might be phony.[/quote]

    You’re the one creating a controversy here — where did I refer to Obama??[/quote]

    Not trying to stir the controversy pot, but just wanted to note that while yes, a recent “controversy” (read: slow news day) came about due to some Presidential candidates, the flag pin issue has been a point of contention since 9/11.

    It reminds me of the Sean Taylor decal. Where is the stopping point? It’s not an issue of whether it’s right or wrong for players to still be wearing, it’s about Goodell lacking foresight on the issue.

    Just my $.02.[/quote]
    ugh here we go…[/quote]

    I didn’t come here to read about political controversy, i came here to see pretty uniform pictures.

    Can we nip this in the bud NOW

    Thankyou

  • Ray | January 23, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    That Sears Wishbook stuff brings back so many memories! I had so much of the Packers gear as kid. Those “wool/leather” jackets were practically required at my grade school. I felt like the only kid in New Jersey with a Green Bay jacket.

  • teamcinnamon | January 23, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment="208587"]great display of some classic uniforms over at spawn.com:

    http://www.spawn.com...

    when i think warren moon, i think techmo bowl dominance![/quote]

    I’m still irritated at the Series 3 Reggie Eagles figure.

    Green long sleeves worn with the Kelly Green jersey? Heresy!

  • Rick | January 23, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment="208666"]It’s hard to imagine any league president or commissioner exhibiting that kind of foresight and courage today, in an era where some folks treat American flag lapel pins as loyalty litmus tests.

    Um, that was a controversy of Obama’s own making… some believe he insulted people who do wear flag pins by claiming their patriotism might be phony.[/quote]

    I’m not even thinking of lapel pins myself, but the insistence on leagues to continue to violate the US Flag Code by putting decals and flag patches on uniforms of teams, where they clearly do not belong. It’s just plain insulting to the flag, yet we consider it “patriotic?” Remind me who’s more patriotic next time somebody is burning the flag in protest of something. Perhaps grinding it into the dirt would be more acceptable?

  • LauraE | January 23, 2008 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment="208733"][quote comment="208666"]It’s hard to imagine any league president or commissioner exhibiting that kind of foresight and courage today, in an era where some folks treat American flag lapel pins as loyalty litmus tests.

    Um, that was a controversy of Obama’s own making… some believe he insulted people who do wear flag pins by claiming their patriotism might be phony.[/quote]

    I’m not even thinking of lapel pins myself, but the insistence on leagues to continue to violate the US Flag Code by putting decals and flag patches on uniforms of teams, where they clearly do not belong. It’s just plain insulting to the flag, yet we consider it “patriotic?” Remind me who’s more patriotic next time somebody is burning the flag in protest of something. Perhaps grinding it into the dirt would be more acceptable?[/quote]

    Thank you Rick. That was point I was trying to make– lack of foresight.

  • Seth H | January 23, 2008 at 10:52 am |

    That Sears Wishbook stuff brings back so many memories! I had so much of the Packers gear as kid. Those “wool/leather” jackets were practically required at my grade school. I felt like the only kid in New Jersey with a Green Bay jacket.

    Being of slightly older vintage than the pages shown yesterday, I had an item that does not appear in them: An NFL bath towel set. The large towel and hand towel had the names of all (24) of the teams in some great early 70s fonts. But the kicker was the washcloth, which simply had the NFL logo. It was beautiful.

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment="208733"] but the insistence on leagues to continue to violate the US Flag Code by putting decals and flag patches on uniforms of teams, where they clearly do not belong.[/quote]

    I see your point.

    That said, I think regardless of US Flag Code (which, by the way, says:

    # (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations.

    I guess sports teams doesn’t count, but did flag insignias show up on baseball teams during/after WWI? If so, that’s when that ship sailed.)

    Regardless of that, and regardless of the notion that the vast majority of Americans are clueless about the rules regarding the US flag, I don’t think most Americans have a problem with flag representations on athletic uniforms. Does that make it right? Probably not. But if you believe that the nation is the people, if the people’s will is that it’s okay, I’m okay with it.

    [quote]Remind me who’s more patriotic next time somebody is burning the flag in protest of something. Perhaps grinding it into the dirt would be more acceptable?[/quote]

    Completely dangerous tangent we’re in danger of here, but I’ll say this:

    “America isn’t easy. America is advanced citizenship. You’ve gotta want it bad, ’cause it’s gonna put up a fight. It’s gonna say, “You want free speech? Let’s see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who’s standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours.” You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms.

    I’m a fairly staunch Republican and that was written by a pretty liberal Hollywood Democrat. But it’s a point of view I agree with. YMMV.

  • LauraE | January 23, 2008 at 10:55 am |
  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 11:00 am |

    say what you will about the use of an american flag or symbol on helmets, lapels and jerseys, but this is just wrong

    now…back to unis?

  • todd krevanchi | January 23, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment="208741"]say what you will about the use of an american flag or symbol on helmets, lapels and jerseys, but this is just wrong

    now…back to unis?[/quote]

    rex kwon do?

  • Trevor Kruger | January 23, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment="208651"]what is a ruptured duck?[/quote]
    I now know why there was a food stand called ‘The Ruptured Duck’ at the Barn(Vetrans Memorial Auditorium in Des Moines).

  • LauraE | January 23, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    And now, for a somewhat uni-related post. I recently attended (well, over a month ago) the Spice Girls concert in Las Vegas. Go ahead, take a moment to laugh. Being a uni-watcher, I noticed that the backup dancers, better known as the Spice Boys, were all outfitted in Adidas apparel. Now, I think they sported it well, especially the socks, but check it out:

    http://flickr.com/ph...

  • Al | January 23, 2008 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment="208714"]As a former Fightin’ Blue Hen I can tell you that Delaware’s helmets essentially are Michigan’s helmets. [/quote]

    The winged helmet actually started at Princeton.

    “Princeton was coached by Fritz Crisler who used a helmet with a wing pattern on it that was manufactured by the MacGregor-Goldsmith Co. To enable his quarterback to distinguish downfield receivers, Crisler had the leather dyed in Princeton’s black and orange colors.” — From Delaware’s Web site

  • Patrick Eichhold | January 23, 2008 at 11:16 am |

    At least the All Sports Band has striped socks and real stirrups.

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 11:20 am |

    On a lighter note, here are some other pics of the Nike Zoom BB that Georgia Tech was wearing, as mentioned in the ticker:

    1. Mayo

    2. Frye

    3. Williams

    4. Nash Road

    5. Cavs

    6. Nash Home

    7. Wallace

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    It’s not that those pants are an affront to the flag.

    It’s that they’re an affront to the laws of nature.

    (as is not closing the anchor tag! ;) )

  • Miguel | January 23, 2008 at 11:25 am |

    NBA All Star jerseys leaked?

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment="208714"]As a former Fightin’ Blue Hen I can tell you that Delaware’s helmets essentially are Michigan’s helmets. They were based on their design so as to honor the alma mater of their longtime athletic director (David Nelson) and their former coach, Tubby Raymond. I do believe also that Delaware’s (awesome) fight song is also based on the counter-melody of Michigan’s.[/quote]

    And Fritz Crisler, who coached at Michigan and later Princeton. One of his players was in fact Tubby Raymond, who brought the design with him. Raymond was better known as the innovator of the hated Delaware Wing T-Offense. I still have nightmares of lineman pulling all over the place!

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    Okay, but this discussion does bring up a uni-related thing:

    Teams that have used stars and stripes or a flag motif in their uniforms.

    The Birmingham Americans of the WFL did not (though they did get *a* star and some stripes and red white and blue into their helmet logo).

    The Memphis/Las Vegas Americans of the Major Indoor Soccer League back in the day…didn’t do it in Memphis and apparently didn’t do it after moving to Vegas, either.

    Those would have been the first pro teams I’d have thought of who’d have gone with a star spangled banner thing.

    Globetrotter unis are obviously patriotically-inspired, but not “flaggy.”

    Even the New England Revolution didn’t run afoul of it.

  • Dane | January 23, 2008 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment="208728"]

    I didn’t come here to read about political controversy, i came here to see pretty uniform pictures.

    [/quote]

    Your wish is granted.

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment="208761"][quote comment="208728"]

    I didn’t come here to read about political controversy, i came here to see pretty uniform pictures.

    [/quote]

    Your wish is granted.[/quote]

    OWN IT!

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment="208755"]It’s not that those pants are an affront to the flag.

    It’s that they’re an affront to the laws of nature.

    (as is not closing the anchor tag! ;) )[/quote]

    YES! (to both points)

    [quote comment="208757"]NBA All Star jerseys leaked?[/quote]

    oh goodie…two-tone unis…i was hoping they’d do something more like this

  • Pat | January 23, 2008 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment="208757"]NBA All Star jerseys leaked?[/quote]

    Is it good or is it stupid?

    I think both. I love the front of the jerseys. For the East I wish they would go either with a different shade of blue or white for the chest insignia. But other than they the fronts are great. However the different color backs… just aren’t really doing it for me (Stupid). I am having a hard time imagining them looking good… on anyone. Maybe when I see them on Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen I will think differently.

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment="208760"]The Birmingham Americans of the WFL did not (though they did get *a* star and some stripes and red white and blue into their helmet logo).[/quote]

    love the negative space there

  • Pat | January 23, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment="208764"][quote comment="208757"]NBA All Star jerseys leaked?[/quote]

    Is it good or is it stupid?

    I think both. I love the front of the jerseys. For the East I wish they would go either with a different shade of blue or white for the chest insignia. But other than they the fronts are great. However the different color backs… just aren’t really doing it for me (Stupid). I am having a hard time imagining them looking good… on anyone. Maybe when I see them on Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen I will think differently.[/quote]

    And after reading that article… I REALLY wish they had done something like this. Those are ugly but they are my favorite all star uniforms other than the ones used in Phoenix. Hopefully they revisit something like that next year.

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment="208765"][quote comment="208760"]The Birmingham Americans of the WFL did not (though they did get *a* star and some stripes and red white and blue into their helmet logo).[/quote]

    love the negative space there[/quote]

    Second-best one ever, IMHO.

    Number one.

  • Ronnie Poore | January 23, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    great collections of old youth NFL helmets. i like the “ear fenders” on the McGregor’s…good attentition to detail on those, except for the non-nail-hole-horseshoe on the colts. love the over the top feather on that old Redskins helmet. the Rawlings set is very impressive(except for a very lame Eagles wing). how’d he get his mom to spring for all those uni sets?

  • Pat | January 23, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment="208768"][quote comment="208765"][quote comment="208760"]The Birmingham Americans of the WFL did not (though they did get *a* star and some stripes and red white and blue into their helmet logo).[/quote]

    love the negative space there[/quote]

    Second-best one ever, IMHO.

    Number one.[/quote]

    Now, that G has negative space. The A on that helmet however, is not negative space. It’s white on top of the blue and red fields.

    Sorry, it’s just that the whole negative space thing is one of my pet peeves reading the comments. A lot of people don’t really get it and keep pointing out things that aren’t really negative space.

  • ryan c #40 | January 23, 2008 at 11:51 am |

    #42 by teamcinnamon on 01.23.08 10:46 am | Quote

    great display of some classic uniforms over at spawn.com:

    http://www.spawn.com

    when i think warren moon, i think techmo bowl dominance!

    I’m still irritated at the Series 3 Reggie Eagles figure.

    Green long sleeves worn with the Kelly Green jersey? Heresy!

    i agree, but, mcfarlane is pretty accurate! reggie must have worn those sleeves during a game or something. can anybody find pics of that?

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment="208743"][quote comment="208741"]say what you will about the use of an american flag or symbol on helmets, lapels and jerseys, but this is just wrong

    now…back to unis?[/quote]

    rex kwon do?[/quote]

    “You think anyone is fonna mess with me wearing these pants?” I was thinking the same thing!

  • teamcinnamon | January 23, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment="208760"]Okay, but this discussion does bring up a uni-related thing:

    Teams that have used stars and stripes or a flag motif in their uniforms.

    The Birmingham Americans of the WFL did not (though they did get *a* star and some stripes and red white and blue into their helmet logo).

    The Memphis/Las Vegas Americans of the Major Indoor Soccer League back in the day…didn’t do it in Memphis and apparently didn’t do it after moving to Vegas, either.

    Those would have been the first pro teams I’d have thought of who’d have gone with a star spangled banner thing.

    Globetrotter unis are obviously patriotically-inspired, but not “flaggy.”

    Even the New England Revolution didn’t run afoul of it.[/quote]

    The Ohio Glory of the WLAF.

  • Joey Guns | January 23, 2008 at 11:57 am |

    Funny caption on ESPN’s Page 2. They show this picture, and the caption is: Do we even know for sure that this is LaDainian Tomlinson?

    http://assets.espn.g...

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment="208743"][quote comment="208741"]say what you will about the use of an american flag or symbol on helmets, lapels and jerseys, but this is just wrong

    now…back to unis?[/quote]

    rex kwon do?[/quote]

    “You think anyone is gonna mess with me wearing these pants?”

    1. They are tacky and hust plain awful.
    2. They totally reminded me of this.

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment="208774"]
    Now, that G has negative space. The A on that helmet however, is not negative space. It’s white on top of the blue and red fields.

    Sorry, it’s just that the whole negative space thing is one of my pet peeves reading the comments. A lot of people don’t really get it and keep pointing out things that aren’t really negative space.[/quote]

    Good point.

    (It’s not an A in there, though – it’s a star that would probably be forming the base of the A if it didn’t have that little blue bit at the bottom.) The logo itself is the A.

  • Philly Bill | January 23, 2008 at 12:02 pm |

    Uni-borne memorial news:

    The Dallas Stars are wearing an “MM” decal on their helmets for front office employee Matt McKee, who died of cancer last week.

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment="208777"]
    The Ohio Glory of the WLAF.[/quote]

    In the logo, yeah, a bit.

    But not in their uniform per se.

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment="208774"][quote comment="208768"][quote comment="208765"][quote comment="208760"]The Birmingham Americans of the WFL did not (though they did get *a* star and some stripes and red white and blue into their helmet logo).[/quote]

    love the negative space there[/quote]

    Second-best one ever, IMHO.

    Number one.[/quote]

    Now, that G has negative space. The A on that helmet however, is not negative space. It’s white on top of the blue and red fields.

    Sorry, it’s just that the whole negative space thing is one of my pet peeves reading the comments. A lot of people don’t really get it and keep pointing out things that aren’t really negative space.[/quote]

    not to be argumentative, but how is it NOT negative space? i always assumed that that was what negative space was…can you enlighten?

    thanks ;)

  • Pat | January 23, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment="208782"][quote comment="208774"]
    Now, that G has negative space. The A on that helmet however, is not negative space. It’s white on top of the blue and red fields.

    Sorry, it’s just that the whole negative space thing is one of my pet peeves reading the comments. A lot of people don’t really get it and keep pointing out things that aren’t really negative space.[/quote]

    Good point.

    (It’s not an A in there, though – it’s a star that would probably be forming the base of the A if it didn’t have that little blue bit at the bottom.) The logo itself is the A.[/quote]

    Yea, I know. I just worded it in an awkward way. And I guess I shouldn’t just say that the A or the G has negative space. Just about anything HAS negative space. Not everything uses it as part of the design like the G did.

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    Let me apologize for:

    1. Post #72, simple mistake
    2. Hastily skipping Post #53 before posting #60
    Thanks Al for the correct info!

    On a different note, KT. You make well-articulated points but your greatest contribution today is introducing me to that Gamblers logo, it is incredible!

  • Matt Lesser | January 23, 2008 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment="208777"][quote comment="208760"]Okay, but this discussion does bring up a uni-related thing:

    Teams that have used stars and stripes or a flag motif in their uniforms.

    The Birmingham Americans of the WFL did not (though they did get *a* star and some stripes and red white and blue into their helmet logo).

    The Memphis/Las Vegas Americans of the Major Indoor Soccer League back in the day…didn’t do it in Memphis and apparently didn’t do it after moving to Vegas, either.

    Those would have been the first pro teams I’d have thought of who’d have gone with a star spangled banner thing.

    Globetrotter unis are obviously patriotically-inspired, but not “flaggy.”

    Even the New England Revolution didn’t run afoul of it.[/quote]

    The Ohio Glory of the WLAF.[/quote]

    Rochester Americans of the AHL. Not too overdone.

  • Dwight | January 23, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment="208779"][quote comment="208743"][quote comment="208741"]say what you will about the use of an american flag or symbol on helmets, lapels and jerseys, but this is just wrong

    now…back to unis?[/quote]

    rex kwon do?[/quote]

    “You think anyone is gonna mess with me wearing these pants?”

    1. They are tacky and hust plain awful.
    2. They totally reminded me of this.[/quote]

    MPowers – check # 57 – you’ll enjoy.

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 12:14 pm |
  • Stuby | January 23, 2008 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment="208775"]#42 by teamcinnamon on 01.23.08 10:46 am | Quote

    great display of some classic uniforms over at spawn.com:

    http://www.spawn.com

    when i think warren moon, i think techmo bowl dominance!

    I’m still irritated at the Series 3 Reggie Eagles figure.

    Green long sleeves worn with the Kelly Green jersey? Heresy!

    i agree, but, mcfarlane is pretty accurate! reggie must have worn those sleeves during a game or something. can anybody find pics of that?[/quote]
    Dangit, I’ve only been able to find pics of Reggie wearing dark green long sleeves with his dark green Packer jersey and white long leeves with his white Eagles jersey. There MUST be some visual evidence out there…

  • Pat | January 23, 2008 at 12:16 pm |

    I can enlighten, Phil.

    The white star inside in that A is just a white field on top of two other colored fields. This white field is part of the design, but it also an object within the design.

    The Fed-Ex logo, which is kind of the go-to logo when talking about the use of negative space uses the empty space where there is nothing to create a shape. Think of the ‘E’ and the ‘x’ as positive and the space between that created the arrow as negative. This is not really taking anything away from the positive space to make a shape, which is what the true definition of negative space use is. Negative space is the space where there is nothing. In that A you can clearly see that the blue field is going behind the star and comes out a little bit on the other side. Which says to me that the white star is just that… a white star.

    The ‘G’ with the shape of texas in the middle was kind of forced negative space use. It’s adjusted the outline of the positive space to create a shape in the negative space.

    I don’t know if that helps, it’s the best I can do right now. I’m friggin’ hungry.

  • The Ol Goaler | January 23, 2008 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment="208738"][quote comment="208733"] but the insistence on leagues to continue to violate the US Flag Code by putting decals and flag patches on uniforms of teams, where they clearly do not belong.[/quote]

    I see your point.

    That said, I think regardless of US Flag Code (which, by the way, says:

    # (j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations.

    I guess sports teams doesn’t count, but did flag insignias show up on baseball teams during/after WWI? If so, that’s when that ship sailed.)[/quote]
    According to “Dressed To the Nines”, the quick answer to the WWII-flag question is no… All MLB teams wore a special patch in 1942 (the first “war season”), and while some teams stopped wearing the patch the following year, it was still used by the White Sox as late as 1948.

  • LM | January 23, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment="208681"]Surprised to see Johnny U. wearing a MacGreger lid — did he ever wear one on the field?

    Here is a pic I took of a Unitas game helmet at Baltimore’s Sports Legends Museum. I don’t know much about helmets, so I’m not sure if it’s a MacGreger or not.[/quote]
    The helmet in the photo is a Riddell TK. I just never remember Unitas wearing a one bar mask, when he wore the TK.

  • Robin | January 23, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment="208761"][quote comment="208728"]

    I didn’t come here to read about political controversy, i came here to see pretty uniform pictures.

    [/quote]

    Your wish is granted.[/quote]

    The helmet sticker looks like a weather graphic for a local tv news’ meteorologist.

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 12:23 pm |

    thanks pat

    but i was seeing the bottom part (blue) as more of the “block A” (im not making sense but bear with me)…not really as ‘forced use’ but i can totally see where you’re coming from…and whom amongst us doesn’t look at a fedex truck differently after UW goodness?

  • Jason Axel | January 23, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment="208767"][quote comment="208764"][quote comment="208757"]NBA All Star jerseys leaked?[/quote]

    Is it good or is it stupid?

    I think both. I love the front of the jerseys. For the East I wish they would go either with a different shade of blue or white for the chest insignia. But other than they the fronts are great. However the different color backs… just aren’t really doing it for me (Stupid). I am having a hard time imagining them looking good… on anyone. Maybe when I see them on Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen I will think differently.[/quote]

    And after reading that article… I REALLY wish they had done something like this. Those are ugly but they are my favorite all star uniforms other than the ones used in Phoenix. Hopefully they revisit something like that next year.[/quote]

    I love it. This years…eh okay, I do dig the font used. But like the article says, if you’re going to do creative and weird, do it to the maximum and go way out to left field.

    I’m wondering how many casual NBA watchers will be confused when they see Red and Blue fronts and White and Gold backs….

  • TOG | January 23, 2008 at 12:28 pm |

    • Although “Dressed to the Nines” states that only three Cubs wore the patch, Todd Radom has come up with a fourth: Hiram Bithorn.

    Todd’s eye is a marvel to behold and I’ll try to one up him…notice on the Cubs photo that the players on the left and right have button down jerseys but Hiram has a zipper front???

    Interesting.

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment="208800"]
    According to “Dressed To the Nines”, the quick answer to the WWII-flag question is no… [/quote]

    I said WWI.

    The 1917 White Sox (among, I’m guessing, others) had a flag patch (though a waving one, different from the static one you normally see these days).

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment="208809"][quote comment="208800"]
    According to “Dressed To the Nines”, the quick answer to the WWII-flag question is no… [/quote]

    I said WWI.

    The 1917 White Sox (among, I’m guessing, others) had a flag patch (though a waving one, different from the static one you normally see these days).[/quote]

    in 1917 CWS and tigers had arm flags, dodgers had one on their left breast

    in 1918 the indians and chisox had the flag on the arm

  • teamcinnamon | January 23, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment="208785"][quote comment="208777"]
    The Ohio Glory of the WLAF.[/quote]

    In the logo, yeah, a bit.

    But not in their uniform per se.[/quote]

    Rochester Americans?

  • teamcinnamon | January 23, 2008 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment="208802"][quote comment="208761"][quote comment="208728"]

    I didn’t come here to read about political controversy, i came here to see pretty uniform pictures.

    [/quote]

    Your wish is granted.[/quote]

    The helmet sticker looks like a weather graphic for a local tv news’ meteorologist.[/quote]

    Love those unis.

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment="208821"][quote comment="208785"][quote comment="208777"]
    The Ohio Glory of the WLAF.[/quote]

    In the logo, yeah, a bit.

    But not in their uniform per se.[/quote]

    Rochester Americans?[/quote]

    I had forgotten about the Amerks. But have they ever really had a stars and stripes thing integrated into their uniform? That’s what I was getting at – teams that have flagrantly flouted convention and flag usage rules by integrating the flag into the design of their uniforms like those awful pants.

    And I have no idea WTF this is.

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment="208795"][quote comment="208779"][quote comment="208743"][quote comment="208741"]say what you will about the use of an american flag or symbol on helmets, lapels and jerseys, but this is just wrong

    now…back to unis?[/quote]

    rex kwon do?[/quote]

    “You think anyone is gonna mess with me wearing these pants?”

    1. They are tacky and hust plain awful.
    2. They totally reminded me of this.[/quote]

    MPowers – check # 57 – you’ll enjoy.[/quote]

    Pretty good Dwight. What is it that they say about Great Minds?

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment="208826"][quote comment="208821"][quote comment="208785"][quote comment="208777"]
    The Ohio Glory of the WLAF.[/quote]

    In the logo, yeah, a bit.

    But not in their uniform per se.[/quote]

    Rochester Americans?[/quote]

    I had forgotten about the Amerks. But have they ever really had a stars and stripes thing integrated into their uniform? That’s what I was getting at – teams that have flagrantly flouted convention and flag usage rules by integrating the flag into the design of their uniforms like those awful pants.

    And I have no idea WTF this is.[/quote]

    It is a device used at both Gitmo and Abu Ghraib

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment="208829"][quote comment="208826"][quote comment="208821"][quote comment="208785"][quote comment="208777"]
    The Ohio Glory of the WLAF.[/quote]

    In the logo, yeah, a bit.

    But not in their uniform per se.[/quote]

    Rochester Americans?[/quote]

    I had forgotten about the Amerks. But have they ever really had a stars and stripes thing integrated into their uniform? That’s what I was getting at – teams that have flagrantly flouted convention and flag usage rules by integrating the flag into the design of their uniforms like those awful pants.

    And I have no idea WTF this is.[/quote]

    It is a device used at both Gitmo and Abu Ghraib[/quote]

    It creates sensory deprivation as well as illustrating any a deprivation of any sense at all

  • Slam | January 23, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    1925-30 New York Americans

    http://www.nhlunifor...

    1930-35 New York Americans

    http://www.nhlunifor...

    1935-38 New York Americans

    http://www.nhlunifor...

  • Slam | January 23, 2008 at 1:24 pm |

    And the Rochester Americans (Amerks) thirds from a few years ago.

    http://good-times.we...

  • Slam | January 23, 2008 at 1:27 pm |

    Last one then I have to go back to work.

    Springfield Falcons

    http://good-times.we...

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 1:39 pm |

    Polo and Ralph Lauren have often been guilty of using the flag in their clothing. I googled Ralph Lauren Flag and by far the most gratuitous use of the flag yet came up.

    Be careful, this definitely might not be suitable for work

    A Stars and Stripes banana hammock.

  • Fred | January 23, 2008 at 1:40 pm |

    The United States National Rugby League team is called the Tomahawks. They have had a number of uniforms over the years, and I found this picture online. I do not think it is the only incarnation with a flag design on it.

  • Fred | January 23, 2008 at 1:41 pm |

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment="208826"]And I have no idea WTF this is.[/quote]

    didn’t rosie o’donnell wear one of those in exit to eden?

  • Fred | January 23, 2008 at 1:42 pm |

    I do not know how to use the links. copy and paste if you would like.
    http://amnrl.com/new...

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment="208838"]Polo and Ralph Lauren have often been guilty of using the flag in their clothing. I googled Ralph Lauren Flag and by far the most gratuitous use of the flag yet came up.

    Be careful, this definitely might not be suitable for work

    A Stars and Stripes banana hammock.[/quote]

    aka “NSFW”

  • Fred | January 23, 2008 at 1:50 pm |

    This jersey has never been used in international play as far as I know, but a company called Liquid Rugby is selling it on their website.USA Jersey
    P.S. I think I figured out the linking key.

  • Justin B | January 23, 2008 at 1:51 pm |

    THe Chicago Wolves have been sporting some red, white, and blue (scroll towards the bottom – the freedom jersey)compared to their usual.

  • teamcinnamon | January 23, 2008 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment="208838"]Polo and Ralph Lauren have often been guilty of using the flag in their clothing. I googled Ralph Lauren Flag and by far the most gratuitous use of the flag yet came up.

    Be careful, this definitely might not be suitable for work

    A Stars and Stripes banana hammock.[/quote]

    Yikes!

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 23, 2008 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment="208757"]NBA All Star jerseys leaked?[/quote]

    Please, for the love of God and our own retinas, let those be fake
    ;-)

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment="208848"]THe Chicago Wolves have been sporting some red, white, and blue (scroll towards the bottom – the freedom jersey)compared to their usual.[/quote]

    im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 2:02 pm |

    Absolutely off topic, but does anyone remember the name of the hockey team whose nickname is some type of snake and whose numbers are graphic serpents twisted into numerals?

    This has no relation whatsoever to what was seen in post 104, believe me!

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 23, 2008 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment="208849"][quote comment="208838"]Polo and Ralph Lauren have often been guilty of using the flag in their clothing. I googled Ralph Lauren Flag and by far the most gratuitous use of the flag yet came up.

    Be careful, this definitely might not be suitable for work

    A Stars and Stripes banana hammock.[/quote]

    Yikes![/quote]

    Double yikes! You couldn’t have posted this instead, even if it isn’t Ralph Lauren?
    ;-)

  • Stuby | January 23, 2008 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment="208853"]Absolutely off topic, but does anyone remember the name of the hockey team whose nickname is some type of snake and whose numbers are graphic serpents twisted into numerals?

    This has no relation whatsoever to what was seen in post 104, believe me![/quote]
    I thought it was the Columbus (GA) Cottonmouths, but I was wrong. I did, however, find out that the Cottonmouths wear some pretty hideous uniforms. Kind of reminds me of those Swedish things with the sponsors all over.

  • Justin B | January 23, 2008 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment="208851"][quote comment="208848"]THe Chicago Wolves have been sporting some red, white, and blue (scroll towards the bottom – the freedom jersey)compared to their usual.[/quote]

    im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)[/quote]

    I don’t think that is legal.

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 2:13 pm |

    [quote comment="208851"][quote comment="208848"]THe Chicago Wolves have been sporting some red, white, and blue (scroll towards the bottom – the freedom jersey)compared to their usual.[/quote]

    im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)[/quote]

    I was ,um, researching the pics above when I stumbled onto the logo of one of the Wolves opponents, the Norfolk Admirals. I found the name interesting because of it’s shipbuilding and Naval community, but check out their logo.

    It looks like a Carnival Cruise liner….with Naval artillery?

  • Justin B | January 23, 2008 at 2:15 pm |

    A duck really?

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 2:15 pm |

    stumbled onto this goldmine of nhl fonts looking for something else

  • Greg | January 23, 2008 at 2:18 pm |

    Off topic, but insane: What happens if the ice cracks during a game of pond hockey? You get hockey played in wetsuits:

    Link

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote]I don’t think that is legal.[/quote]

    point?

    [quote comment="208859"]I found the name interesting because of it’s shipbuilding and Naval community, but check out their logo.[/quote]

    obsessed with the thong much?

  • ryan c #40 | January 23, 2008 at 2:21 pm |

    …come on now… lets not forget apollo creed & rocky’s american flag shorts from the rocky movies! i’m sure there were no stars anywhere on those shorts (if my memory is correct)… just too lazy to go look for a picture! and, i know it’s just a movie… haha.

    NOBODY should ever wear an american flag as pants, shorts, shirts, etc. i know you all know that though.

  • Michael | January 23, 2008 at 2:24 pm |

    I was watching the Michigan versus Wisconsin Basketball game on ESPN when I spotted a weird thing about Michigan’s uniform. I had always liked their throwback style jerseys, with the simple stripes in this era of nike horns, even if they have added a new nike style half collar. This just makes you think of the Colts and LSU type football jerseys. When did this venture into basketball? The jerseys aren’t even cuut differently from ten years ago. Has anyone else noticed this?

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment="208859"][quote comment="208851"][quote comment="208848"]THe Chicago Wolves have been sporting some red, white, and blue (scroll towards the bottom – the freedom jersey)compared to their usual.[/quote]

    im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)[/quote]

    I was ,um, researching the pics above when I stumbled onto the logo of one of the Wolves opponents, the Norfolk Admirals. I found the name interesting because of it’s shipbuilding and Naval community, but check out their logo.

    It looks like a Carnival Cruise liner….with Naval artillery?[/quote]

    DON’T OPEN THE ADMIRALS LOGO IN POST 119….I PASTED THE NSFW PICTURE BY ACCIDENT.

  • Kenny | January 23, 2008 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment="208864"]Off topic, but insane: What happens if the ice cracks during a game of pond hockey? You get hockey played in wetsuits:

    Link[/quote]

    Forget that!!!

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 2:29 pm |

    This is the Admirals logo that looks like the cruiseship.

    Admirals Logo

  • Justin B | January 23, 2008 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment="208872"]This is the Admirals logo that looks like the cruiseship.

    Admirals Logo[/quote]

    It is similar.

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment="208875"][quote comment="208872"]This is the Admirals logo that looks like the cruiseship.

    Admirals Logo[/quote]

    It is similar.[/quote]

    the admirals logo is a battle ship

    not a destroyer

  • al | January 23, 2008 at 2:45 pm |

    check out this MLB shop error putting the Nats in the American League …
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

  • Bryan Redemske | January 23, 2008 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment="208744"][quote comment="208651"]what is a ruptured duck?[/quote]
    I now know why there was a food stand called ‘The Ruptured Duck’ at the Barn(Vetrans Memorial Auditorium in Des Moines).[/quote]

    It was in the concourse right by my media seat for the state basketball tournaments. They have a plaque right by it, too.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 23, 2008 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment="208880"][quote comment="208875"][quote comment="208872"]This is the Admirals logo that looks like the cruiseship.

    Admirals Logo[/quote]

    It is similar.[/quote]

    the admirals logo is a battle ship

    not a destroyer[/quote]
    Like this kind of destroyer?
    …and in Chicago, “admiral” has a very differnt meaning (possible NSFW)

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment="208867"]…come on now… lets not forget apollo creed & rocky’s american flag shorts from the rocky movies! i’m sure there were no stars anywhere on those shorts (if my memory is correct)… just too lazy to go look for a picture! and, i know it’s just a movie… haha.

    NOBODY should ever wear an american flag as pants, shorts, shirts, etc. i know you all know that though.[/quote]

    Apollo Creed’s shorts (later worn by Rocky himself in Rocky III)

    Harlem Globetrotters shorts.

    You could get away with just saying they’re white shorts with red stripes (or red shorts with white stripes, I guess).

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment="208885"]…and in Chicago, “admiral” has a very differnt meaning (possible NSFW)[/quote]

    as it does in san antonio

  • Brock | January 23, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    Paul,
    I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but last night during the Canadians/Bruins game, the referee was wearing a mouth guard. I have never seen that before. Is that commen?

  • Joe H | January 23, 2008 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment="208861"]stumbled onto this goldmine of nhl fonts looking for something else[/quote]

    A gold-mine would be if they had the vector eps files for download…without that it’s just a bunch of jpgs

  • Nicole | January 23, 2008 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment="208764"][quote comment="208757"]NBA All Star jerseys leaked?[/quote]

    Is it good or is it stupid?

    I think both. I love the front of the jerseys. For the East I wish they would go either with a different shade of blue or white for the chest insignia. But other than they the fronts are great. However the different color backs… just aren’t really doing it for me (Stupid). I am having a hard time imagining them looking good… on anyone. Maybe when I see them on Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen I will think differently.[/quote]

    As a former New Orleanian I have to say I really like these. The writing is reminiscent of the wrought iron “lacework” that is found everywhere in the city. I could give or take the two-tone, but I think the writing is awesome. I thought New Orleans as soon as I saw it.

    Besides, let’s not forget the awful logos some big sporting events held in New Orleans have had!

    The original SuperBowl XXXVI logo was a survivor rip-off
    http://en.wikipedia....

    And this one
    http://images.google...

    led to this spectacularly bad hat
    http://milwaukee.cra...

  • Bill | January 23, 2008 at 3:24 pm |

    Sean Taylor, the first player voted posthumously to the Pro Bowl, will have his jersey number worn at the game by two of his former Washington Redskins teammates. The NFL announced Wednesday that tight end Chris Cooley and tackle Chris Samuels will both wear No. 21 at the game Feb. 10 in Honolulu.
    http://sportsillustr...

    Didn’t someone else say they were going to wear 21 in honor of Taylor also? I’m thiking it was one of the safeties but not sure.

  • bmarlowe | January 23, 2008 at 3:26 pm |

    It’s hard to imagine any league president or commissioner exhibiting that kind of foresight and courage today, in an era where some folks treat American flag lapel pins as loyalty litmus tests.
    —-

    Bad analysis by Paul on such worldy topics, as usual. No courage involved here. The point was to avoid anything that might be bad for business.

  • Dane | January 23, 2008 at 3:28 pm |

    Chris Cooley and Chris Samuels will both wear #21 in honor of Sean Taylor at the Pro Bowl.

  • Dom | January 23, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    Heres Flacco wearing a white helmet with Henne in the background with his Michigan helmet.

    http://www.fannation...

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment="208903"]Sean Taylor, the first player voted posthumously to the Pro Bowl, will have his jersey number worn at the game by two of his former Washington Redskins teammates. The NFL announced Wednesday that tight end Chris Cooley and tackle Chris Samuels will both wear No. 21 at the game Feb. 10 in Honolulu.
    http://sportsillustr...

    Didn’t someone else say they were going to wear 21 in honor of Taylor also? I’m thiking it was one of the safeties but not sure.[/quote]

    Roy Williams of the Cowboys

  • werthj | January 23, 2008 at 3:44 pm |

    I was at the Suns v. Bucks game last night and noticed that the radial arching of the NOB’s for the Suns is inconsistent. Barbosa contrasted with Skinner. Both seven letters over double digit numbers. And looking through archives today, I notice for that the Suns are wearing wordmarks on their waistbands (‘SUNS’ on the road, ‘PHX’ at home). I’m not a huge NBA fan. Is this relatively new for them? Any other teams doing something similar?

  • Stuby | January 23, 2008 at 3:47 pm |

    [quote comment="208917"]I was at the Suns v. Bucks game last night and noticed that the radial arching of the NOB’s for the Suns is inconsistent. Barbosa contrasted with Skinner. Both seven letters over double digit numbers. And looking through archives today, I notice for that the Suns are wearing wordmarks on their waistbands (‘SUNS’ on the road, ‘PHX’ at home). I’m not a huge NBA fan. Is this relatively new for them? Any other teams doing something similar?[/quote]
    Skinner’s body is wider, allowing more space for the name. Space is also limited by the wide bands of grey trim.

  • denverjason | January 23, 2008 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment="208777"][quote comment="208760"]Okay, but this discussion does bring up a uni-related thing:

    Teams that have used stars and stripes or a flag motif in their uniforms.

    The Birmingham Americans of the WFL did not (though they did get *a* star and some stripes and red white and blue into their helmet logo).

    The Memphis/Las Vegas Americans of the Major Indoor Soccer League back in the day…didn’t do it in Memphis and apparently didn’t do it after moving to Vegas, either.

    Those would have been the first pro teams I’d have thought of who’d have gone with a star spangled banner thing.

    Globetrotter unis are obviously patriotically-inspired, but not “flaggy.”

    Even the New England Revolution didn’t run afoul of it.[/quote]

    The Ohio Glory of the WLAF.[/quote]

    That’s the Ohio flag, not the US flag.

  • Joey Guns | January 23, 2008 at 3:50 pm |

    Check this out, on the Washington Nationals team store website:

    http://mlb.imageg.ne...

    Oops! There’s an American League patch on it.

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

  • warren thompson | January 23, 2008 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment="208667"][quote comment="208659"][quote comment="208611"]Anyone know the deal with the blue Colts helmet in the Tony Dungy press conference?????

    Not good at linking but here is something you can copy and paste.

    http://sports.yahoo....

    Its no so much that it is blue… its just white lines, not colored in. It happens to be on blue material (a blue that isn’t even their color blue).[/quote]

    If y’all are talking about the helmet image on the podium then you are looking for controversy (conspiracy?) where there is none. It’s fairly obvious to me that the podium front is just a piece of black plastic (or like material) with an outline of the helmet in white. Nothing more, nothing less.[/quote]

    Early in their second Baltimore incarnation, the Colts did in fact wear blue helmets. The horseshoes were on the rear of the helmets.

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment="208919"]That’s the Ohio flag, not the US flag.[/quote]

    What’s the Ohio flag?

    Ohio Glory logo

    Ohio state flag

  • todd krevanchi | January 23, 2008 at 3:59 pm |

    when [quote comment="208867"]…come on now… lets not forget apollo creed & rocky’s american flag shorts from the rocky movies! i’m sure there were no stars anywhere on those shorts (if my memory is correct)… just too lazy to go look for a picture! and, i know it’s just a movie… haha.

    NOBODY should ever wear an american flag as pants, shorts, shirts, etc. i know you all know that though.[/quote]

    most if not all of the examples that people have given today relating to the flag and clothing do not violate the code.

    when they use the term “the flag” they are talking about a flag and not a garment screened with the picture of a flag.

    those pants, or that the thong pictured? they are simply items of clothes with a picture of a flag screened on. had they been created by taking some flags, cutting the correct patterns and then sewing the final product, then it would have been in violation. the idea is that the garment cannot be created from an actual flag.

  • denverjason | January 23, 2008 at 4:02 pm |

    [quote comment="208902"]Chris Cooley and Chris Samuels will both wear Sean Taylor’s #21 in the Pro Bowl.[/quote]

    But John Lynch and Champ Bailey weren’t both allowed to wear Darrent Williams’ #27 at last year’s Pro Bowl!?

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment="208922"]Early in their second Baltimore incarnation, the Colts did in fact wear blue helmets. The horseshoes were on the rear of the helmets.[/quote]

    The horseshoes were on the rear of white helmets. If they wore blue helmets, I didn’t see them on a recent trip to Baltimore’s sports legends museum.

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 4:08 pm |

    [quote comment="208928"]But John Lynch and Champ Bailey weren’t both allowed to wear Darrent Williams’ #27 at last year’s Pro Bowl!?[/quote]

    Nobody ever heard of Darrent Williams.

    Duh.

    /exaggeration, but for illustration

  • Marc | January 23, 2008 at 4:13 pm |

    So want to see what i found on my day off, after doing nothing but watching NHL Network?

    1996 All Star Game. John Vanbiesbrouck wearing a camera for FOX on his helmet…. Not that interesting right?

    Well how about this?

    He had the camera painted to match the style of his mask! Amazing… i got 3 screen grabs that show it, and im sorry they arent more crisp, but you will be able to see it fine i believe.

    file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Marc/Desktop/img059.jpg
    file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Marc/Desktop/img060.jpg
    file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Marc/Desktop/img061.jpg

  • denverjason | January 23, 2008 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment="208931"][quote comment="208928"]But John Lynch and Champ Bailey weren’t both allowed to wear Darrent Williams’ #27 at last year’s Pro Bowl!?[/quote]

    Nobody ever heard of Darrent Williams.

    Duh.

    /exaggeration, but for illustration[/quote]

    Sure, but NFL fans would not know who Sean Taylor is but for a succesful college career. Meaning he never lived up to his potential, but has made several Pro Bowls based on draft position, not on-field performance.

  • Marc | January 23, 2008 at 4:19 pm |

    ok.. having a little trouble with the link for the pics.. hang tight… ill figure it out

  • denverjason | January 23, 2008 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment="208923"][quote comment="208919"]That’s the Ohio flag, not the US flag.[/quote]

    What’s the Ohio flag?

    Ohio Glory logo

    Ohio state flag[/quote]

    I would presume the Glory logo is inspired by and takes its design elements from the Ohio flag, not the US flag.

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment="208935"][quote comment="208931"][quote comment="208928"]But John Lynch and Champ Bailey weren’t both allowed to wear Darrent Williams’ #27 at last year’s Pro Bowl!?[/quote]

    Nobody ever heard of Darrent Williams.

    Duh.

    /exaggeration, but for illustration[/quote]

    Sure, but NFL fans would not know who Sean Taylor is but for a succesful college career. Meaning he never lived up to his potential, but has made several Pro Bowls based on draft position, not on-field performance.[/quote]

    was darrent selected to the pro bowl?

  • Dennis Abrams | January 23, 2008 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment="208723"][quote comment="208718"]The page with the NBDL video also has an AHL video. It says the Idaho Stampede and Alska Aces are wearing the uniforms of their parent clubs (Dallas and St. Louis) but they’re both wearing last year’s uniforms.[/quote]
    I believe the alaska aces are part of the ECHL[/quote]
    ECHL is considered part of the AHL system.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 23, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment="208924"]when [quote comment="208867"]…come on now… lets not forget apollo creed & rocky’s american flag shorts from the rocky movies! i’m sure there were no stars anywhere on those shorts (if my memory is correct)… just too lazy to go look for a picture! and, i know it’s just a movie… haha.

    NOBODY should ever wear an american flag as pants, shorts, shirts, etc. i know you all know that though.[/quote]

    most if not all of the examples that people have given today relating to the flag and clothing do not violate the code.

    when they use the term “the flag” they are talking about a flag and not a garment screened with the picture of a flag.

    those pants, or that the thong pictured? they are simply items of clothes with a picture of a flag screened on. had they been created by taking some flags, cutting the correct patterns and then sewing the final product, then it would have been in violation. the idea is that the garment cannot be created from an actual flag.[/quote]

    Does this qualify as a violation? Or jsut bad tast?

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 23, 2008 at 4:25 pm |

    Does this qualify as a violation? Or jsut bad tast?[/quote]

    ….or just bad typing on my part? ;-)

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 4:26 pm |

    [quote comment="208935"][quote comment="208931"][quote comment="208928"]But John Lynch and Champ Bailey weren’t both allowed to wear Darrent Williams’ #27 at last year’s Pro Bowl!?[/quote]

    Nobody ever heard of Darrent Williams.

    Duh.

    /exaggeration, but for illustration[/quote]

    Sure, but NFL fans would not know who Sean Taylor is but for a succesful college career. Meaning he never lived up to his potential, but has made several Pro Bowls based on draft position, not on-field performance.[/quote]

    Sean Taylor never lived up to his potential?

  • Marc | January 23, 2008 at 4:28 pm |

    ok sorry,

    i sent the pics to Mr. Lukas, and hopefully he will be of some help. If anyone isnt busy, and knows how to get pics from a cell to a link on this site, please email me.

    iamnotjacked@aol.com

    thanks in advance

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment="208939"]ECHL is considered part of the AHL system.[/quote]

    How?

    What “AHL system?”

    There’s a minor league hockey “system,” more or less, which goes AHL-ECHL-CHL-IHL, but I’m not sure what you mean by “part of the AHL system.”

    The ECHL (which, by the way, doesn’t stand for East Coast Hockey League anymore, just ECHL) bills itself as a “Premier ‘AA’ Hockey League.”

    Only baseball has a strict AAA-AA-A level system for its leagues, but everyone’s familiar with the concept so other leagues borrow it sometimes.

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment="208942"][quote comment="208935"][quote comment="208931"][quote comment="208928"]But John Lynch and Champ Bailey weren’t both allowed to wear Darrent Williams’ #27 at last year’s Pro Bowl!?[/quote]

    Nobody ever heard of Darrent Williams.

    Duh.

    /exaggeration, but for illustration[/quote]

    Sure, but NFL fans would not know who Sean Taylor is but for a succesful college career. Meaning he never lived up to his potential, but has made several Pro Bowls based on draft position, not on-field performance.[/quote]

    Sean Taylor never lived up to his potential?[/quote]

    leading the league in interceptions at the time of your death is NOT living up to your potential

  • Jordan | January 23, 2008 at 4:32 pm |

    [quote comment="208868"]I was watching the Michigan versus Wisconsin Basketball game on ESPN when I spotted a weird thing about Michigan’s uniform. I had always liked their throwback style jerseys, with the simple stripes in this era of nike horns, even if they have added a new nike style half collar. This just makes you think of the Colts and LSU type football jerseys. When did this venture into basketball? The jerseys aren’t even cuut differently from ten years ago. Has anyone else noticed this?[/quote]

    I noticed that last night, but was unable to post anything as I’m not cool enough to have a DVR…great catch!

  • DonD | January 23, 2008 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment="208851"][quote comment="208848"]THe Chicago Wolves have been sporting some red, white, and blue (scroll towards the bottom – the freedom jersey)compared to their usual.[/quote]

    im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)[/quote]

    Hello, I’m Chris hanson from dateline NBC, why don’t you have a seat.

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 4:42 pm |

    [quote comment="208946"]leading the league in interceptions at the time of your death is NOT living up to your potential[/quote]

    Now if you led the league in interceptions AFTER death, THAT would be amazing.

  • Kerry P | January 23, 2008 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment="208924"]when [quote comment="208867"]…come on now… lets not forget apollo creed & rocky’s american flag shorts from the rocky movies! i’m sure there were no stars anywhere on those shorts (if my memory is correct)… just too lazy to go look for a picture! and, i know it’s just a movie… haha.

    NOBODY should ever wear an american flag as pants, shorts, shirts, etc. i know you all know that though.[/quote]

    most if not all of the examples that people have given today relating to the flag and clothing do not violate the code.

    when they use the term “the flag” they are talking about a flag and not a garment screened with the picture of a flag.

    those pants, or that the thong pictured? they are simply items of clothes with a picture of a flag screened on. had they been created by taking some flags, cutting the correct patterns and then sewing the final product, then it would have been in violation. the idea is that the garment cannot be created from an actual flag.[/quote]
    Also, some people see any logo using red and white stripes, a blue area and white stars as a violation of the code. It’s not. Old Glory was the inspiration of these logos, but it’s not nearly a violation of the code.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 23, 2008 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment="208948"][quote comment="208851"][quote comment="208848"]THe Chicago Wolves have been sporting some red, white, and blue (scroll towards the bottom – the freedom jersey)compared to their usual.[/quote]

    im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)[/quote]

    Hello, I’m Chris hanson from dateline NBC, why don’t you have a seat.[/quote]
    All – while attempting to find an appropriate photo to link to in response, I happened upon this.
    Anybody have any ideas? It can’t be one of the many Wolves specialty jerseys - can it?

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 23, 2008 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment="208946"][quote comment="208942"][quote comment="208935"][quote comment="208931"][quote comment="208928"]But John Lynch and Champ Bailey weren’t both allowed to wear Darrent Williams’ #27 at last year’s Pro Bowl!?[/quote]

    Nobody ever heard of Darrent Williams.

    Duh.

    /exaggeration, but for illustration[/quote]

    Sure, but NFL fans would not know who Sean Taylor is but for a succesful college career. Meaning he never lived up to his potential, but has made several Pro Bowls based on draft position, not on-field performance.[/quote]

    Sean Taylor never lived up to his potential?[/quote]

    leading the league in interceptions at the time of your death is NOT living up to your potential[/quote]

    Ehhh … let’s just have all of the players wear 21.

  • Juan Grande | January 23, 2008 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment="208907"]Chris Cooley and Chris Samuels will both wear #21 in honor of Sean Taylor at the Pro Bowl.[/quote]

    I am a die-hard (maybe a poor choice of words) Redskins fan but LET IT GO! It is truly a shame that Sean Taylor was killed but let’s move on. When did America turn into the “let’s drag any memorial for anyone out for years” country? Heath Ledger died yesterday. Does anyone, outside of the initial announcement, say “No, not Heath!” CNN is doing its best to keep it going.

  • andrew | January 23, 2008 at 4:57 pm |

    this was a link from SI.com

    somebody’s top ten college basketball uniform. this person couldn’t be any further off. first of all, don’t admit you’re a UF alum and then put them number one! second, where’s duke? I’m a UNC fan, and even i will recognize that!

    http://www.collegefa...

  • Patrick | January 23, 2008 at 4:58 pm |

    [quote comment="208955"][quote comment="208948"][quote comment="208851"][quote comment="208848"]THe Chicago Wolves have been sporting some red, white, and blue (scroll towards the bottom – the freedom jersey)compared to their usual.[/quote]

    im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)[/quote]

    Hello, I’m Chris hanson from dateline NBC, why don’t you have a seat.[/quote]
    All – while attempting to find an appropriate photo to link to in response, I happened upon this.
    Anybody have any ideas? It can’t be one of the many Wolves specialty jerseys - can it?[/quote]

    Well, no, because that’s certainly not a wolf.

  • LauraE | January 23, 2008 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment="208924"]when [quote comment="208867"]…come on now… lets not forget apollo creed & rocky’s american flag shorts from the rocky movies! i’m sure there were no stars anywhere on those shorts (if my memory is correct)… just too lazy to go look for a picture! and, i know it’s just a movie… haha.

    NOBODY should ever wear an american flag as pants, shorts, shirts, etc. i know you all know that though.[/quote]

    most if not all of the examples that people have given today relating to the flag and clothing do not violate the code.

    when they use the term “the flag” they are talking about a flag and not a garment screened with the picture of a flag.

    those pants, or that the thong pictured? they are simply items of clothes with a picture of a flag screened on. had they been created by taking some flags, cutting the correct patterns and then sewing the final product, then it would have been in violation. the idea is that the garment cannot be created from an actual flag.[/quote]

    Would just like to reiterate that flag protocol dictates that the flag patch (and one can assume decals would fall under this category as well) only be worn by “military personnel, fireman, policeman and members of patriotic organizations.” It expressly states that “The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic uniform…”

  • todd krevanchi | January 23, 2008 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment="208948"][quote comment="208851"][quote comment="208848"]THe Chicago Wolves have been sporting some red, white, and blue (scroll towards the bottom – the freedom jersey)compared to their usual.[/quote]

    im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)[/quote]

    Hello, I’m Chris hanson from dateline NBC, why don’t you have a seat.[/quote]

    the above comment, although hysterical, would have been more appropriate if those girls would have been wearing the jerseys of the nhl’s nashville franchise.

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 5:02 pm |

    [quote]Heath Ledger died yesterday[/quote]

    who?

  • joe | January 23, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment="208945"][quote comment="208939"]ECHL is considered part of the AHL system.[/quote]

    How?

    What “AHL system?”

    There’s a minor league hockey “system,” more or less, which goes AHL-ECHL-CHL-IHL, but I’m not sure what you mean by “part of the AHL system.”

    The ECHL (which, by the way, doesn’t stand for East Coast Hockey League anymore, just ECHL) bills itself as a “Premier ‘AA’ Hockey League.”

    Only baseball has a strict AAA-AA-A level system for its leagues, but everyone’s familiar with the concept so other leagues borrow it sometimes.[/quote]

    IHL is long gone, its was folded/absorbed into the AHL whats howthe Chicago Wolves got into the AHL, they were IHL. You thinking of the UHL at the bottom?

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 23, 2008 at 5:06 pm |

    [quote comment="208959"][quote comment="208907"]Chris Cooley and Chris Samuels will both wear #21 in honor of Sean Taylor at the Pro Bowl.[/quote]

    I am a die-hard (maybe a poor choice of words) Redskins fan but LET IT GO! It is truly a shame that Sean Taylor was killed but let’s move on. When did America turn into the “let’s drag any memorial for anyone out for years” country? Heath Ledger died yesterday. Does anyone, outside of the initial announcement, say “No, not Heath!” CNN is doing its best to keep it going.[/quote]
    Can’t wait to see if he’s posthumously awarded an Oscar for his role in the Batman flick (“The Dark Knight”) that comes out in July

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 23, 2008 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment="208962"]this was a link from SI.com

    somebody’s top ten college basketball uniform. this person couldn’t be any further off. first of all, don’t admit you’re a UF alum and then put them number one! second, where’s duke? I’m a UNC fan, and even i will recognize that!

    http://www.collegefa...

    2 alma maters?? How many colleges was that guy kicked out of? ;-)

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment="208966"]Would just like to reiterate that flag protocol dictates that the flag patch (and one can assume decals would fall under this category as well) only be worn by “military personnel, fireman, policeman and members of patriotic organizations.” It expressly states that “The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic uniform…”[/quote]

    And yet…here we are.

    That ship sailed a while back. Just sayin’.

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment="208969"]IHL is long gone, its was folded/absorbed into the AHL whats howthe Chicago Wolves got into the AHL, they were IHL. You thinking of the UHL at the bottom?[/quote]

    The UHL changed its name to the IHL before this season.

  • Kerry P | January 23, 2008 at 5:13 pm |

    [quote comment="208900"][quote comment="208764"][quote comment="208757"]NBA All Star jerseys leaked?[/quote]

    Is it good or is it stupid?

    I think both. I love the front of the jerseys. For the East I wish they would go either with a different shade of blue or white for the chest insignia. But other than they the fronts are great. However the different color backs… just aren’t really doing it for me (Stupid). I am having a hard time imagining them looking good… on anyone. Maybe when I see them on Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen I will think differently.[/quote]

    As a former New Orleanian I have to say I really like these. The writing is reminiscent of the wrought iron “lacework” that is found everywhere in the city. I could give or take the two-tone, but I think the writing is awesome. I thought New Orleans as soon as I saw it.

    Besides, let’s not forget the awful logos some big sporting events held in New Orleans have had!

    The original SuperBowl XXXVI logo was a survivor rip-off
    http://en.wikipedia....

    And this one
    http://images.google...

    led to this spectacularly bad hat
    http://milwaukee.cra...
    I’m with you on at least the font and front of the jerseys…I’m not very excited about the two-tone look, however.

    And as for the Super Bowl logos for games played in New Orleans, I think several of them looked pretty good with a distinct New Orleans influence. Here’s a run-down of the New Orleans Super Bowl logos:

    Super Bowl IV – pretty generic

    Super Bowl VI – MUCH better with a very New Orleans-esque font

    Super Bowl IX – not as good, but I think the “X” was a simple attempt at the wrought iron look

    Super Bowl XII – i’m not crazy about the ribbon-style font for the “XII” but the colors are clearly influenced by Mardi Gras

    Super Bowl XV – again, very bland and I’m not sure why designers liked using brown so much in the first few logos

    Super Bowl XX – for 11 games from SB XVII through SB XXVII, they went through a red, white and blue color-scheme phase…i’m not sure I get why

    Super Bowl XXIV – same as with SB XX.

    Super Bowl XXXI – this is by far my FAVORITE New Orleans Super Bowl logo ever used, I love the colors and the Mardi Gras motif

    Super Bowl XXXVI (Game Used) – not New Orleans-inspired, but a suitable change given the occurances of the year

    Super Bowl XXXVI (Original) – Again, I LOVE this design, the font, the colors and the wrought iron look. I guess I can see the Survivor-like resemblance, but I really don’t think about that when I look at it.

  • Kerry P | January 23, 2008 at 5:16 pm |

    The Spam Monster ate my post…can someone please restore it.

    Thanks!

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 5:18 pm |

    [quote comment="208967"][quote comment="208948"][quote comment="208851"][quote comment="208848"]THe Chicago Wolves have been sporting some red, white, and blue (scroll towards the bottom – the freedom jersey)compared to their usual.[/quote]

    im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)[/quote]

    Hello, I’m Chris hanson from dateline NBC, why don’t you have a seat.[/quote]

    the above comment, although hysterical, would have been more appropriate if those girls would have been wearing the jerseys of the nhl’s nashville franchise.[/quote]

    Too funny, I am out of my league…I’ll stick to posting man thongs and militant cruise ships.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 23, 2008 at 5:19 pm |

    [quote comment="208963"][quote comment="208955"][quote comment="208948"][quote comment="208851"][quote comment="208848"]THe Chicago Wolves have been sporting some red, white, and blue (scroll towards the bottom – the freedom jersey)compared to their usual.[/quote]

    im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)[/quote]

    Hello, I’m Chris hanson from dateline NBC, why don’t you have a seat.[/quote]
    All – while attempting to find an appropriate photo to link to in response, I happened upon this.
    Anybody have any ideas? It can’t be one of the many Wolves specialty jerseys - can it?[/quote]

    Well, no, because that’s certainly not a wolf.[/quote]

    I’ll re-state my question: Since it doesn’t appear to be a Chicago Wolves jersey, does anyone have any ideas as to which team it might belong?

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 5:19 pm |

    [quote comment="208976"]Too funny, I am out of my league…I’ll stick to posting man thongs.[/quote]

    please don’t

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment="208977"][quote comment="208976"]Too funny, I am out of my league…I’ll stick to posting man thongs.[/quote]

    please don’t[/quote]

    Just remember it is an ever present threat. I believe I am in posession of what we call leverage.

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 5:23 pm |

    [quote comment="208978"]I’ll re-state my question: Since it doesn’t appear to be a Chicago Wolves jersey, does anyone have any ideas as to which team it might belong?[/quote]

    San Antonio Rampage, I do believe.

    The goalie in question (check the filename) has played most of the last three seasons in SA.

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 5:24 pm |

    Oh sorry, Mets/Jets. I haven’t a clue. I’m still waiting for someone to hel me figure out which hockey team uses the shaped snakes for numbers.

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 5:25 pm |

    [quote comment="208980"][quote comment="208978"]I’ll re-state my question: Since it doesn’t appear to be a Chicago Wolves jersey, does anyone have any ideas as to which team it might belong?[/quote]

    San Antonio Rampage, I do believe.

    The goalie in question (check the filename) has played most of the last three seasons in SA.[/quote]

    you are correct, sir

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 23, 2008 at 5:26 pm |

    im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)[/quote]

    Hello, I’m Chris hanson from dateline NBC, why don’t you have a seat.[/quote]

    the above comment, although hysterical, would have been more appropriate if those girls would have been wearing the jerseys of the nhl’s nashville franchise.[/quote]

    Too funny, I am out of my league…I’ll stick to posting man thongs and militant cruise ships.[/quote]
    Closest that I can find

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 5:27 pm |

    And those camo jerseys were worn on Military Appreciation Night against the Chicago Wolves on February 23 of last year.

  • Jay | January 23, 2008 at 5:27 pm |

    The Ohio “flag” is not a flag, it is actually a burgee. A piece of trivia I’m sure dedicated readers of this site appreciate.

    As for the Ohio Glory logo, I think the eagle’s head is in the field of the Ohio burgee, while the eagle is holding the tail in its mouth.

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment="208984"]im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)[/quote]

    Hello, I’m Chris hanson from dateline NBC, why don’t you have a seat.[/quote]

    the above comment, although hysterical, would have been more appropriate if those girls would have been wearing the jerseys of the nhl’s nashville franchise.[/quote]

    Too funny, I am out of my league…I’ll stick to posting man thongs and militant cruise ships.[/quote]
    Closest that I can find[/quote]

    i think he was referring to “predators”

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 23, 2008 at 5:29 pm |

    [quote comment="208983"][quote comment="208980"][quote comment="208978"]I’ll re-state my question: Since it doesn’t appear to be a Chicago Wolves jersey, does anyone have any ideas as to which team it might belong?[/quote]

    San Antonio Rampage, I do believe.

    The goalie in question (check the filename) has played most of the last three seasons in SA.[/quote]

    you are correct, sir[/quote]

    No worries, all – thanks for locating the info – now for the bigger question: where can I get my hands on a jersey like that?

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 23, 2008 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment="208987"][quote comment="208984"]im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)[/quote]

    Hello, I’m Chris hanson from dateline NBC, why don’t you have a seat.[/quote]

    the above comment, although hysterical, would have been more appropriate if those girls would have been wearing the jerseys of the nhl’s nashville franchise.[/quote]

    Too funny, I am out of my league…I’ll stick to posting man thongs and militant cruise ships.[/quote]
    Closest that I can find[/quote]

    i think he was referring to “predators”[/quote]

    No doubt – the photo is of the Predator’s “ice girls” squad

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment="208990"]No doubt – the photo is of the Predator’s “ice girls” squad[/quote]

    yes, but those are not jail bait

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 23, 2008 at 5:35 pm |

    [quote comment="208991"][quote comment="208990"]No doubt – the photo is of the Predator’s “ice girls” squad[/quote]

    yes, but those are not jail bait[/quote]

    True that – still digging for a more apropos photo

  • KT | January 23, 2008 at 6:06 pm |

    [quote comment="208989"]No worries, all – thanks for locating the info – now for the bigger question: where can I get my hands on a jersey like that?[/quote]

    Uh…..internet?

  • David | January 23, 2008 at 6:09 pm |

    Sorry if this has been posted, but the reason Flacco is wearing a white helmet is this:

    “There was a bit of a miscommunication with the equipment manager at Delaware, and the helmet never got sent. But it came in last night. People thought they were trying to have Joe not look like Chad Henne, since Michigan and Delaware have similar helmets. But that is not the case. He has the helmet back, and he is very happy about it.”
    –Scott Brunner, former NFL and Delaware Blue Hen QB who works with Flacco through TEST sports clubs.

  • MPowers1634 | January 23, 2008 at 6:15 pm |

    Since the predator theme is getting alot of mileage, I was just “prowling” through Google
    and found some interesting footy pics.

    Check out these socks:
    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    Forgive me if they are a well-known team

    P.S. I seem to remember the PA HS football team that had like 4 sets of uniforms wearing black and yellow socks similar to these. Anyone recall?

  • diz | January 23, 2008 at 7:10 pm |

    [quote comment="208899"][quote comment="208861"]stumbled onto this goldmine of nhl fonts looking for something else[/quote]

    A gold-mine would be if they had the vector eps files for download…without that it’s just a bunch of jpgs[/quote]

    ALL SPORT is basically Subway, n’est-ce pas?

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 7:13 pm |

    [quote comment="209002"]Sorry if this has been posted, but the reason Flacco is wearing a white helmet is this:

    “There was a bit of a miscommunication with the equipment manager at Delaware, and the helmet never got sent. But it came in last night. People thought they were trying to have Joe not look like Chad Henne, since Michigan and Delaware have similar helmets. But that is not the case. He has the helmet back, and he is very happy about it.”
    –Scott Brunner, former NFL and Delaware Blue Hen QB who works with Flacco through TEST sports clubs.[/quote]

    THE scott brunner?

    he’s still got it

    3 stripes & 2 swooshes…WTF???

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 7:15 pm |

    [quote comment="209023"][quote comment="209002"]Sorry if this has been posted, but the reason Flacco is wearing a white helmet is this:

    “There was a bit of a miscommunication with the equipment manager at Delaware, and the helmet never got sent. But it came in last night. People thought they were trying to have Joe not look like Chad Henne, since Michigan and Delaware have similar helmets. But that is not the case. He has the helmet back, and he is very happy about it.”
    –Scott Brunner, former NFL and Delaware Blue Hen QB who works with Flacco through TEST sports clubs.[/quote]

    THE scott brunner?

    he’s still got it

    3 stripes & 2 swooshes…WTF???[/quote]

    hmmm…try this

  • Mark K | January 23, 2008 at 7:15 pm |

    [quote comment="208826"]
    I had forgotten about the Amerks. But have they ever really had a stars and stripes thing integrated into their uniform?[/quote]

    Like href=”http://www.amerksboosterclub.com/AMERKS/1995-96.jpg” rel=”nofollow”>this?

  • Mark K | January 23, 2008 at 7:18 pm |
  • =bg= | January 23, 2008 at 7:38 pm |

    that NY Giants SB Champions glass referred to yesterday is now mysteriously…missing.

    http://www.giantspro...

  • =bg= | January 23, 2008 at 7:40 pm |

    [quote comment="208854"][quote comment="208849"][quote comment="208838"]Polo and Ralph Lauren have often been guilty of using the flag in their clothing. I googled Ralph Lauren Flag and by far the most gratuitous use of the flag yet came up.

    Be careful, this definitely might not be suitable for work

    A Stars and Stripes banana hammock.[/quote]

    Yikes![/quote]

    Double yikes! You couldn’t have posted this instead, even if it isn’t Ralph Lauren?
    ;-)[/quote]

    or..http://pdberger.com/...

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 7:45 pm |

    [quote comment="209033"]that NY Giants SB Champions glass referred to yesterday is now mysteriously…missing.

    http://www.giantspro...

    sheep station bought em all up

  • who cares | January 23, 2008 at 7:59 pm |

    Nothing too interesting uniwise from CAN 2008. In the two ties, only the interesting Adidas kit of Bafana Bafana stands out.

  • who cares | January 23, 2008 at 8:31 pm |

    Think he approves?

  • Denis | January 23, 2008 at 8:50 pm |

    A top ten list of college basketball jerseys

    http://www.collegefa...

  • Dane | January 23, 2008 at 9:24 pm |

    I’m watching Super Bowl XX on NFL Network. Don Blackmon (#55) of the Patriots cut his sleeves so short that he even cut off the bottoms of the TV numbers.

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 9:33 pm |
  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 10:01 pm |

    no no no and god no

  • foonie | January 23, 2008 at 10:35 pm |

    [quote comment="208987"][quote comment="208984"]im now officially a wolf fan

    owwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!! ;)[/quote]

    Hello, I’m Chris hanson from dateline NBC, why don’t you have a seat.[/quote]

    the above comment, although hysterical, would have been more appropriate if those girls would have been wearing the jerseys of the nhl’s nashville franchise.[/quote]

    For what it’s worth, it looks like that pic came from a Wolves’ Wives fundraiser… I’m guessing those are players’ wives. Just a guess, though, but I think LI Phil is off the hook.

  • Al | January 23, 2008 at 10:38 pm |

    [quote comment="209043"]Nothing too interesting uniwise from CAN 2008. In the two ties, only the interesting Adidas kit of Bafana Bafana stands out.[/quote]

    Heck with the uniforms … nice ball!

  • LI Phil | January 23, 2008 at 11:00 pm |

    [quote comment="209077"]For what it’s worth, it looks like that pic came from a Wolves’ Wives fundraiser… I’m guessing those are players’ wives. Just a guess, though, but I think LI Phil is off the hook.[/quote]

    so #20 won’t get me 20?

  • Mike Engle | January 23, 2008 at 11:22 pm |

    Hey Mr. Lukas: when is the Uni Watch Super Bowl preview coming?
    “Bold” predictions: Given the Patriots’ color-block socks (which always accompany the blue jersey), penchant for upside-down eights, silly jersey piping, and the Flying Elvis, the Giants will emerge as the “better dressed” team. However, Mr. Lukas will point out that both teams would look better with the opposite jerseys: the Pats, in white, would have striped socks (I’m still calling anachronistic Adidas sign on those socks, just like the Broncos’ swoosh sides, but that’s neither here nor there); Big Blue, in its blue jerseys, would look…blue.

  • James Craven | January 23, 2008 at 11:40 pm |

    [quote comment="208850"]“NBA All Star jerseys leaked.?”[/quote]

    The horse from Ren and Stimpy just called…

    [quote]“No sir, I don’t like it.”[/quote]

  • Mike Engle | January 23, 2008 at 11:52 pm |

    [quote comment="209090"][quote comment="208850"]“NBA All Star jerseys leaked.?”[/quote]

    The horse from Ren and Stimpy just called…

    [quote]“No sir, I don’t like it.”[/quote][/quote]
    So let me get this straight…the blue team has a silver back panel, but there is going to be a team in white…on the front only? Wow, this is going to be confusing. It’s hard enough to distinguish the Patriots’ silver jersey from the white, now you want me to remember which team is white in front, which one is silver on the back, AND that that isn’t the same team? Isn’t that a bit much? Last time I checked, there are going to be two teams playing in the All-Star Game. East and West. Why make it look like three or four teams?
    The Toronto Raptors had a similar schizophrenic jersey, when it was purple with a black back. Its fate? The jersey graveyard/Straight Cash Homey funny farm. And why is it a good idea now?
    Say it with me: High contrast. Light vs. Dark. One main jersey color. Not very hard concepts, in my opinion.

  • LynchMob | January 24, 2008 at 1:23 am |

    Loved the link to the page @ Dressed to the Nines about patches … the last “commemorative” patch listed was in 1978 by the San Diego Padres …HEY, I WANT ONE OF THOSE! Anyone know where I might find one? I checked ebay … where else is a good place to look? I wonder if all this is is the All-Star Game patch?

  • Rob Curtin | January 24, 2008 at 2:38 am |

    Real late addition here, but I thought I’d show everyone (i.e. Paul) that the folks over at bostondirtdogs.com aren’t very happy about the corporate branding for the Sox vs. A’s Opening Series in Japan either.

    That’s today’s post… old news over here at Uniwatch.

    -Rob

  • JamesB | January 24, 2008 at 3:06 am |

    More info about the ruptured duck via the Oxford English Dictionary:

    3. ruptured duck U.S. Forces’ slang, (a) a damaged aircraft; (b) the discharge button given to ex-service men, with reference to its eagle motif.

  • lwiedy | January 24, 2008 at 6:17 am |

    [quote comment="208701"][quote comment="208638"]The NBA Authentics video guy asks why they don’t make Authentics authentic.

    So….

    Why don’t they make Authentics authentic? Is it just the higher margins of offshore production? Lead times? Cussedness?[/quote]

    Two words:

    e Bay.

    If you make an authentic too good, it’s easy to make a counterfeit “game worn” jersey. There was an article in USA Today about how the Astros replicas by Majestic have a felt star rather than a screen-printed or tackle-twill star.

    Mitchell & Ness does its best to replicate everything, but even then, there are limits to exactly how far it will go to replicate The Actual Jersey.[/quote]

    Sounds like a lame excuse to not offer the best product possible. If there are those who overpay because they can’t tell the difference, so be it.

  • lwiedy | January 24, 2008 at 6:26 am |

    [quote comment="208888"][quote comment="208867"]…come on now… lets not forget apollo creed & rocky’s american flag shorts from the rocky movies! i’m sure there were no stars anywhere on those shorts (if my memory is correct)… just too lazy to go look for a picture! and, i know it’s just a movie… haha.

    NOBODY should ever wear an american flag as pants, shorts, shirts, etc. i know you all know that though.[/quote]

    Apollo Creed’s shorts (later worn by Rocky himself in Rocky III)

    Harlem Globetrotters shorts.

    You could get away with just saying they’re white shorts with red stripes (or red shorts with white stripes, I guess).[/quote]

    I believe it was Rocky IV. Balboa wears the shorts in tribute to Creed after he is killed by Drago.

  • who cares | January 24, 2008 at 7:34 am |

    Here’s a close-up of the CAN 2008 ball.

  • James Craven | January 24, 2008 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment="209097"]“So let me get this straight…the blue team has a silver back panel, but there is going to be a team in white…on the front only? Wow, this is going to be confusing. It’s hard enough to distinguish the Patriots’ silver jersey from the white, now you want me to remember which team is white in front, which one is silver on the back, AND that that isn’t the same team? Isn’t that a bit much? Last time I checked, there are going to be two teams playing in the All-Star Game. East and West. Why make it look like three or four teams?

    “The Toronto Raptors had a similar schizophrenic jersey, when it was purple with a black back. Its fate? The jersey graveyard/Straight Cash Homey funny farm. And why is it a good idea now?

    “Say it with me: High contrast. Light vs. Dark. One main jersey color. Not very hard concepts, in my opinion.”[/quote]

    And why aren’t they using the Mardi Gras colors of purple, green and gold? IMHO that would have worked better. White with green, gold and purple trim for the West and Green with purple, gold and white (or purple with white, gold and green trim) for the East.

  • Jay | January 24, 2008 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment="209227"][quote comment="208888"][quote comment="208867"]…come on now… lets not forget apollo creed & rocky’s american flag shorts from the rocky movies! i’m sure there were no stars anywhere on those shorts (if my memory is correct)… just too lazy to go look for a picture! and, i know it’s just a movie… haha.

    NOBODY should ever wear an american flag as pants, shorts, shirts, etc. i know you all know that though.[/quote]

    Apollo Creed’s shorts (later worn by Rocky himself in Rocky III)

    Harlem Globetrotters shorts.

    You could get away with just saying they’re white shorts with red stripes (or red shorts with white stripes, I guess).[/quote]

    I believe it was Rocky IV. Balboa wears the shorts in tribute to Creed after he is killed by Drago.[/quote]

    Nope, Rocky III. Apollo trained Rocky to fight Mr. T. Apollo gave Rocky the shorts for the fight.

  • Bendert | January 24, 2008 at 5:23 pm |

    Flacco is back in his Blue Hens helmet, it simply hadn’t arrived in Mobile according to a scout who is covering the Senior Bowl in his blog

  • Laurie | January 25, 2008 at 11:29 am |

    The original Ruptured Duck was a cloth insignia depicting an eagle inside a wreath. It was worn on uniforms above the right breast pocket by WWII servicemen and women.
    It was issued to service personnel who were about to leave the military with an Honorable Discharge. It also allowed them to continue to wear their uniform for up to thirty days after they were discharged since there was a clothing shortage at that time. This showed the MP’s that they were in transit and not AWOL. Well, the boys thought the eagle looked more like a duck; and, because it meant they were going home, the popular saying was, “They took off like a Ruptured Duck”…hence the nickname.

    The RD later became a metal pin that veterans attached to their lapel and all wore them proudly. Those who were collecting the 20 dollars a week the government gave for unemployed veterans, wore the pin upside down and they became known as members of the 52/20 club.

  • Joel Schneider | March 2, 2008 at 1:46 pm |

    “Ruptured Duck”
    I am a Veitnam vet who is 100% disabled with PTSD and have done resurch on this fact. It was given to thouse with PTSD during WWII to show that they had served honerable and were not Non Hackers or Cowards. It was dubbed the Ruptured Duck by their peer and become Tabo to ware or display. Today, I ware it prodley to help remove the stigma
    of thouse who don’t understand. PTSD is a normal human reaction to an abnormal situation.
    You too can help. Thanks!

  • Charles Ruffing | April 15, 2008 at 4:12 pm |

    I have seen that picture of my Dad many times , but never knew about the patch. I noticed that the NY Daily News feature on Yankee Stadium shows that picture of my father in this past Sunday’s paper.
    If anyone had the email of the author of the piece I would like to send him a correction about my dad.
    Thanks,
    Charles Ruffing Jr