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My Brain: An Illustrated Tour

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By Bryan Redemske

There’s a guy in my office who rattles off lineups and stats when you start talking about baseball teams from the 1950s and ’60s. There’s another guy who talks about the various stadiums teams played in. Me, of course, I think of uniforms. And not just uniforms, but the way they were styled in particular eras. While the first guy’s mental Rolodex is fluttering from stat to stat, I’m picturing Al Kaline (right). While the second guy talks about the the monuments at Yankee Stadium, I think about the Mick, and how totally awesome he looked in pinstripes.

At this point, both guys usually leave because I’m rubbing my fingers together, eyes closed, and mumbling, “Wool flannel … so pretty … so scratchy … so baggy… .” And so on.

All weirdness on my part aside, this is actually how I think of different eras in sports. Pre-WWII baseball? Longish sleeves soft-crowned hats. And then there’s the ’70s. It’s like a long, tight, polyester nightmare. Things toned down in the ’80s, but the Straw pops into my head every time. Lots of sock, still tight, still slightly garish. For the current era, it’s Manny. Sigh.

Take a minute and consider your own mental filing system. Is your old-school football reference point this guy? The sleeves shortened for Unitas‘s era, then the pads got really big in the ’70s. The college kids thought it necessary to show off their abs during that same period, something that continued well through the ’80s and into the ’90s. And that’s how I think of college football through the era — a faceless, teamless guy in big pads with exposed abs.

Three hockey images come to mind: Original Six, expansion/Gretzky, Crosby.

Basketball? Short and tight to longer to ridiculous. And also, unfortunately, shiny. I now generalize the entire high school basketball-playing population because of nylon dazzle fabric.

As a cyclist, I’m forced to render that sport’s past in uniform-based context as well. Really old guys (pre-mid-’50s) all look like this, Eddy Merckx represents almost every rider through the ’70s, and then there’s the tragic ’80s and early ’90s. And then there’s this. He has a category to himself.

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Research Projects: Paul here. Earlier this week I posted pics of Marquette’s untucked jerseys. But as someone on the Chris Creamer board pointed out the next day, De Paul also went untucked back around 1981, as seen here and here — I hadn’t been aware of that. Aside from the pajama-era White Sox, have there been any other untucked teams? Obviously, I’m not counting hockey or other sports where the jerseys are meant to be untucked — I’m talking about teams that showed off their shirttails in an otherwise tucked-in league.

Also: Yesterday’s comments included a link to this pink helmet, which is essentially a scarlet letter that has to be worn by the player who comes up on the short end of a scoring game during practice (full details about halfway down this page). So it’s sort of like the pink knapsack routine in baseball, except it’s more uni-based. Can anyone think of any other uni-based scarlet letters?

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Uni Watch News Ticker: “Two CBA teams, the Oklahoma Cavalry and Great Falls Explorers, have had their road uniforms disappear this season,” writes Chuck Miller. “In Oklahoma’s case, fired head coach Micheal Ray Richardson simply took the road unis until he was rehired a week later; in the Great Falls situation, the circumstances are unknown. Anyway, this caused both the Cavalry and Explorers, on the road, to wear the road uniforms of their host teams, as can be seen by these photos of Albany versus Oklahoma (Albany is in the yellow) and Albany hosting Great Falls (ditto).” … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Great gallery of New Jersey high school hockey jerseys here. … We’ve all seen plenty of shots of Cleveland’s elfin mascot, Brownie. Until now, though, I hadn’t seen one where he had spikes on his stockings (with thanks to Brendon Yarian, who also passed along this shot of a Bears jersey with what appears to be an upside-down “3”). … As I mentioned in my ESPN column a few weeks ago, I don’t like uni memorials that include the deceased’s signature — seems a bit creepy. But Motherwall FC in Scotland apparently feels differently, as they’ve just tributed Phil O’Donnell by embroidering his autograph onto their jersey. Full details here (with thanks to Patrick O’Donnell). … Interesting note from Travis Edwards, who writes: “My boss and I were talking about football jerseys, and he had told me about some team (unsure who they were) who used to have footballs on the sides of their jerseys. They used to run the wing offense and when they would run, everyone would have their hands to their sides acting as though they had the ball. Now, was he jerking me around, or can you help me to identify who that team was?” … The Central Hockey League held their All-Star Game a few nights ago, and Scotty Hockey sent along a pic of both uniforms. … Hmmm, separated at birth? (Good find by Ronnie Poore.) … Good note from Steve Shanabruch, who writes: “Twins pitcher Pat Neshek has a blog, and he often has auctions for game-used items. The funny thing is, the winner isn’t the person who bids the most money, it’s the person who offers the best baseball cards (he’s a huge collector). Anyway, one of the recent auctions was for a luggage strap that he used for road games last season, inscribed with the last name ‘Dahmer.’ I figured he was using the name of a serial killer as his alias, but it turns out his alias was ‘Cy Dahmer,’ because if you say it fast, it sounds like ‘side-armer,’ which is how he pitches.” … LeBron James has a new sneaker, and Vince has written his take on them. … Yesterday’s lead item regarding prototypes prompted Andrew Schimmel to send in n this shot from the Florida Panthers’ uni unveiling back in May of 1993. “Note that the red sweater has blue numbers with a yellow outline,” he writes. “The Panthers never used this color combo for the red sweater at any point. Also, the gloves have claws printed on them. I would tend to think they weren’t serious about actually using such gloves — I believe it was only for the unveiling ceremony.” A shame, because I think the claws look pretty cool! … Very unusual hoops jersey being worn by Fairfax High in L.A. Here’s another view, with a T-shirt underneath (with thanks to Hunter Franks). … We all know the Lakers wore short shorts a few weeks back. But until now, I didn’t know that there was an “I saw the short shorts” T-shirt, which you can have for your very own (nice find by Matt Shervin). … Latest reason to love Wisconsin. … “Formula 1’s Red Bull Racing unveiled their 2008 car on Wednesday,” reports Dane Drutis. “You can also see David Coulthard and Mark Webber wearing their new fire suits. I believe this is the first time F1 drivers have worn their car numbers on their driving gear. It’s somewhat odd that Coulthard will drive car No 9 but is wearing 09 — why the zero, I wonder? As for the stripe running from right shoulder to right ankle, you be the judge.” Personally, I dig the stripe, but I’m sure that’s no surprise to anyone here. … Latest installment of “Equipped with Joe Skiba” is up on the Giants’ home page, and it’s a really good one — enjoy. … Lots of crazy helmet decal action in this Shrine Game practice photo gallery (with thanks to Nick Noyes). … Latest example of handwritten uni numbers on socks: Denison Cabral of the Baltimore Blast (courtesy of Jen Muller). … Alarming news from Jere Smith, who writes: “I work for a children’s book publisher. One of the books slated to come out in ’09, for kindergartners, is about getting dressed for a baseball game. It shows your basic T-ball outfit, and each page shows a different piece of the uni. When it gets to the all-important ankle-ish area, they’ve put the poor girl in those white socks with the blue vertical stripe down the sides that end at the shoe line. The climactic scene shows the dad appearing, also in full identical uni, right down the fake stirrups.” … I’m going to be out off the grid again for most of today, so contact Bryan if you have any major site problems. I’ll be back on Monday.

 

241 comments to My Brain: An Illustrated Tour

  • Jim | January 18, 2008 at 7:50 am |

    Yesterday’s lead item regarding prototypes prompted Andrew Schimmel to send in this shot from the Florida Panthers’ uni unveiling back in May of 1993.

    Think you might be missing a link here Paul….

  • Dave | January 18, 2008 at 7:53 am |

    Pink as a badge of shame really went out the window with the whole Komen cancer center thing. I’m surprised the Capitals still use it.

    This isn’t so much a uni-related scarlet letter, but the Foam Duck sitting in your locker after practice means you screwed up and everyone saw it.

  • dgc | January 18, 2008 at 7:58 am |

    I like to think of the NHL eras as: Original Six, Classical Period and the Bettman Dark Ages.

  • Paul Lukas | January 18, 2008 at 8:06 am |

    [quote comment=”205265″]Yesterday’s lead item regarding prototypes prompted Andrew Schimmel to send in this shot from the Florida Panthers’ uni unveiling back in May of 1993.

    Think you might be missing a link here Paul….[/quote]

    Thanks. Now fixed.

  • Brad | January 18, 2008 at 8:07 am |

    Regarding the uni-based scarlet letters:

    My high school basketball team had an annual tradition called the “Golden Jock Award” in which the loser of a team-wide rebounding contest was forced to wear a gold-painted jockstrap outside his shorts during practice the following day. Loads of fun, but sadly, no pics.

  • jere | January 18, 2008 at 8:10 am |

    Maybe if Manny straightens up and flies right like the ol’ Mick, he’ll win some rings one day.

    Oh wait… :)

    Hey, at least he’s not wearing the fake-stirrup socks.

  • Stuby | January 18, 2008 at 8:11 am |

    The untucked look filtered down to the High School level around 1980-81. My older brother wore the untucked jersey on the Livermore (CA) HS basketball team around then. Unfortunately, I don’t have possession of his yearbook, so no photos of him or of the backup center, one Randy Johnson.

  • Mike | January 18, 2008 at 8:14 am |

    Anyone watch ER last night? They were playing hockey and Neela (a doctor) was wearing a Dominik Hasek style goalie mask complete with red wings on the side. Strange, considering the show is set in Chicago.

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 18, 2008 at 8:18 am |

    Re: Brownie with cleats:

    Miami Seahawks?

    So, I looked ’em up. I didn’t know that the Baltimore Colts started in 1946 as the Miami Seahawks. They lasted one year in Miami and then moved to Baltimore. Back then, it was the All-America Football Conference.

  • pbaude | January 18, 2008 at 8:42 am |

    thats awesome, I played high school hockey in new jersey and I can see my school’s jersey in the gallery.

    didn’t the wild do something similar…

  • S Dot | January 18, 2008 at 8:48 am |

    Not related to anything in the ticker but I figured this was the right place to ask. Does anybody know if they have either the new RBK NHL or the Nike Swift socks out for retail? If so, where to buy them.

  • Steve | January 18, 2008 at 8:51 am |

    [quote comment=”205282″]Not related to anything in the ticker but I figured this was the right place to ask. Does anybody know if they have either the new RBK NHL or the Nike Swift socks out for retail? If so, where to buy them.[/quote]

    I believe the socks are supposed to come out this summer for retail sales.

  • DrBear | January 18, 2008 at 8:53 am |

    Footballs on the jerseys? I think that’s been illegal since the 1920s – I remember reading that John Heisman used to do that at Georgia Tech until they banned it.

  • Jason G. | January 18, 2008 at 8:56 am |

    I know for sure that there was a football team at one point that would sew football shaped patches onto there jerseys. I have no idea who it was or even what level of football it was. I just remember reading about it in a book about quirky football stories when I was a kid.

  • John T | January 18, 2008 at 8:57 am |

    Manchester United will mark the 50th anniversary of the Munich Air disaster where the team lost 7 players and 21 died on Feb. 10th(details here http://news.bbc.co.u...)

    On the day United will wear a special replica of their 1958 kit on the day, devoid of the players’ names or shirt numbers on the back, while Manchester City’s (their oppents on the day) kit will incorporate a black ribbon with their sponsor’s branding removed.

    Also, the players are now taking the step of removing logos from their boots
    http://www.manutd.co...

    Should be a uni treat on a sad day.

  • Dan King | January 18, 2008 at 8:58 am |

    “But Motherwall FC in Scotland apparently feels differently, as they’ve just tributed Phil O’Donnell by embroidering his autograph onto their jersey. Full details here (with thanks to Patrick O’Donnell)”

    i like this tribute because its not stuck on the sleeve or corner of the front, its front and center. just seems more like they really care about it, unlike helmet stickers.

  • Jeff | January 18, 2008 at 9:00 am |

    In this pic Unitas has a single bar facemask that is blue. The colts didn’t wear blue facemasks till 1994. Was this a prototype that never made it to the field. Teams didn’t use colored facemasks till the late 70’s.

    http://images.art.co...

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 9:01 am |

    what ugly truths freedom brings

    [quote] the loser of a team-wide rebounding contest was forced to wear a gold-painted jockstrap outside his shorts during practice the following day. Loads of fun, but sadly, no pics[/quote]

    um…ya know what…that’s ok

  • Jeff | January 18, 2008 at 9:01 am |

    Sorry…here is the link from above about unitas

    http://images.art.co...

  • Philly William | January 18, 2008 at 9:01 am |

    [quote comment=”205286″]I know for sure that there was a football team at one point that would sew football shaped patches onto there jerseys. I have no idea who it was or even what level of football it was. I just remember reading about it in a book about quirky football stories when I was a kid.[/quote]

    I think I had the same book. Their was also a story about a team that took their helmets off and put them under their arms during kick returns – the leather helmets made it look like everyone had a ball.

  • diz | January 18, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    [quote comment=”205288″]”But Motherwall FC in Scotland apparently feels differently, as they’ve just tributed Phil O’Donnell by embroidering his autograph onto their jersey. Full details here (with thanks to Patrick O’Donnell)”

    i like this tribute because its not stuck on the sleeve or corner of the front, its front and center. just seems more like they really care about it, unlike helmet stickers.[/quote]

    Just a shame Paul misspelled “Motherwell” really :P This weekend is their first league game since Uncle Phil’s death – they drew 2-2 away to Hearts in the cup last week.

  • Don | January 18, 2008 at 9:04 am |

    Those Red Bull fire suits are the business. That’s how a driver should look. BTW, Coulthard’s helmet is painted to match the Scottish flag, so he gets bonus points.

  • Shaftman | January 18, 2008 at 9:08 am |

    [quote comment=”205276″]Anyone watch ER last night? They were playing hockey and Neela (a doctor) was wearing a Dominik Hasek style goalie mask complete with red wings on the side. Strange, considering the show is set in Chicago.[/quote]

    I was watching and the first thing I thought was, “how weird that they don’t have any shields on the jersey?”. Then I noticed the goalie helmet and, you’re right it looked like two red wings, but minus the tire, side by side.

  • mg12 | January 18, 2008 at 9:11 am |

    I grabbed a still image from the gallery of new Jersey hockey jerseys.

    http://img237.images...

    I think that Jackson is going to be getting a call from Kansas State in the near future. It’s my understanding that K-State is pretty protective of it’s power cat.

  • Rick | January 18, 2008 at 9:12 am |

    Uni-reference in the NY Post.

    There was an article about that tv station in Green Bay that pulled the Seinfeld re-run off the air this weekend, so Eli Manning can’t watch his favorite show……..

    “You think I’m going to take that sitting down?” Seinfeld railed yesterday.

    “I’m dispatching George Costanza to be the new traveling secretary for the Packers.”

    He was referencing a famous episode in which George – employed as the traveling secretary for the Yankees – convinces the team to switch to cotton uniforms, which shrink after they are washed, leaving the Bronx Bombers too restrained by their pinstripes to play.

    http://www.nypost.co...

  • James R | January 18, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    http://www.nypost.co...

    Here is a pic of the dad that tape the Packer jersey to his son.

    The following link the dad defends why he did it
    http://www.nypost.co...

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”205301″]http://www.nypost.com/seven/01182008/photos/news005b.jpg

    Here is a pic of the dad that tape the Packer jersey to his son.

    The following link the dad defends why he did it
    http://www.nypost.co...

    from the article:

    [quote]Mathew said he and his wife have had marital problems[/quote]

    quite frankly, i find that hard to believe

  • CraigD | January 18, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    [quote comment=”205286″]I know for sure that there was a football team at one point that would sew football shaped patches onto there jerseys. I have no idea who it was or even what level of football it was. I just remember reading about it in a book about quirky football stories when I was a kid.[/quote]

    I had that same book. That’s exactly what I thought of when reading anout the footballs sewn to jerseys. I think it was something like “Strange but True Sports Stories”

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 9:30 am |

    [quote comment=”205304″][quote comment=”205286″]I know for sure that there was a football team at one point that would sew football shaped patches onto there jerseys. I have no idea who it was or even what level of football it was. I just remember reading about it in a book about quirky football stories when I was a kid.[/quote]

    I had that same book. That’s exactly what I thought of when reading anout the footballs sewn to jerseys. I think it was something like “Strange but True Sports Stories”[/quote]

    this?

    i had the baseball one…

  • Justin B | January 18, 2008 at 9:31 am |

    When I think football…I think about the helmet…no bar1 bar2 bar90sbeyond

  • Allan Chandler | January 18, 2008 at 9:32 am |

    Re: Footballs on the jerseys –

    Coach Pop Warner’s 1908 Carlisle football team had pads sewn onto their jerseys and pants. These pads were the same size and shape and color of a football, making it difficult to tell which player had the ball.

    The day before Carlisle was scheduled to play Harvard, Percy Haughton, Harvard’s coach, noticed that Carlisle’s players had these pads during their practice.

    So Haughton dyed all the game balls crimson – Harvard’s jersey color. Harvard won 17-0.

    This story appeared in “The Giant Book of Strange but True Sports Stories,” by Howard Liss. It’s published by Random House, but I’m not sure if it is still in print.

  • Neil | January 18, 2008 at 9:41 am |

    I understand the pink helmet thing from the article, but I’m afraid that I don’t know the history behind the pink backpack in baseball. I do know what the green dot is in football, though.

  • Dan O'Connell | January 18, 2008 at 9:42 am |

    Hey does anyone have any pics from the Marquette Louisville game from last night? I heard Marquete wore their powder blues and had a diffferent font for their lettering. Can anyone confirm this?

  • u2horn | January 18, 2008 at 9:43 am |

    so, did the Cleveland Browns and St. Louis Browns share a mascot?

    http://www.sportsecy...

  • […] Well, the Uni Watch blog in this post linked to a slideshow of the high school hockey jerseys hanging at the Prudential Center – which I think is really awesome, by the way – and so you should all check out this post. Maybe if enough people follow links from my blog, the Uni Watch will link back to mine! […]

  • jo-jo | January 18, 2008 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”205311″]I understand the pink helmet thing from the article, but I’m afraid that I don’t know the history behind the pink backpack in baseball. I do know what the green dot is in football, though.[/quote]

    Rookies get the task of carrying all the gum, candy, etc out to the bullpen in some sort of emasculating backpack, be it pink, a Hello Kitty, or something else. At the end of the season the bag is burned as the rookie will no longer have to carry the bag.

  • Kenny | January 18, 2008 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”205313″]Hey does anyone have any pics from the Marquette Louisville game from last night? I heard Marquete wore their powder blues and had a diffferent font for their lettering. Can anyone confirm this?[/quote]

    Light Blue jerseys

    Compared to this…nothing different with the font

    video here too

  • aram | January 18, 2008 at 9:57 am |

    I’m pretty sure it was Carlisle Indian School that did the fake-football-sewing back in the early part of the century. I have an article about it somewhere I’ll dig up later.

  • Dan from PC | January 18, 2008 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”205267″]Pink as a badge of shame really went out the window with the whole Komen cancer center thing. I’m surprised the Capitals still use it.

    This isn’t so much a uni-related scarlet letter, but the Foam Duck sitting in your locker after practice means you screwed up and everyone saw it.[/quote]

    We can’t be uber-sensitive about every symbol. Yes pink is representative of the fight against breast cancer, but this is simply a hockey team having a little fun.

  • Nicole | January 18, 2008 at 10:03 am |

    Marquette pics

    http://www.jsonline....

    http://sports.espn.g...

    http://sports.espn.g...

    http://sportsillustr...

    http://sportsillustr...

    http://sportsillustr...

    http://sportsillustr...

    Also, not that I mind looking for the pictures, but all I did was go to ESPN, SI, the Milwaukee newspaper and Marquette’s website. Not exactly hard…

  • dm00n [Doug] | January 18, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    Red Bull’s new unis aren’t bad at all, but last year’s were nice too. Thankfully they are way better than what they make sister team Toro Rosso wear.

  • Saru | January 18, 2008 at 10:06 am |

    I’m not counting hockey, soccer, or other sports where the jerseys are meant to be untucked.

    Which soccer jerseys meant to be untucked? I can’t think of any. Sure, they get pulled out during games, but so do (American) football jerseys.

  • werthj | January 18, 2008 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”205324″][quote comment=”205311″]I understand the pink helmet thing from the article, but I’m afraid that I don’t know the history behind the pink backpack in baseball. I do know what the green dot is in football, though.[/quote]

    Rookies get the task of carrying all the gum, candy, etc out to the bullpen in some sort of emasculating backpack, be it pink, a Hello Kitty, or something else. At the end of the season the bag is burned as the rookie will no longer have to carry the bag.[/quote]

    Nit-picky, but I believe that it is the pitcher with the least tenure (on the team or in the bigs, I’m not sure). Not necessarily a rookie.

  • Geeman | January 18, 2008 at 10:11 am |

    Look in that second DePaul picture and you’ll see that Notre Dame’s home uniforms then were actually light green, not white.

  • Lee | January 18, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”205336″]I’m not counting hockey, soccer, or other sports where the jerseys are meant to be untucked.

    Which soccer jerseys meant to be untucked? I can’t think of any. Sure, they get pulled out during games, but so do (American) football jerseys.[/quote]

    not meant to be untucked. in fact, they must be tucked at the start of each half. but many, i would say the majority, will become magically untucked shortly thereafter until after halftime, when the magic returns.

  • todd krevanchi | January 18, 2008 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment=”205328″] LeBron James has a new sneaker, and Vince has written his take on them.[/quote]

    well its not really a new sneaker, its a new colorway of his most recent release, the zoom lebron V.

    [quote comment=”205328″]See all the requisite angles here, including a tag under the tongue that says, “LeBron James, clap clap clap clap.” Whatever that means.
    [/quote]

    in order to understand the tag, it has to be written exactly as it is on the tag…
    le-bron ja-mes
    clap, clap, clap, clap, clap
    making the players name as close to 4 syllables as possible, and 5 claps… not 4.

    its the yankee stadium way of acknowledging the starting lineup… they go around the field until the player acknowledges the fans back with a wave, a point, etc. then they move to the next player.

    [quote comment=”205328″] “In Oklahoma’s case, fired head coach Micheal Ray Richardson simply took the road unis until he was rehired a week later;[/quote]

    really? he got fired and took the road unis?
    kinda like, im taking my ball and im going home?

  • Ben | January 18, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!!

  • Ben | January 18, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!!

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”205337″][quote comment=”205324″][quote comment=”205311″]I understand the pink helmet thing from the article, but I’m afraid that I don’t know the history behind the pink backpack in baseball. I do know what the green dot is in football, though.[/quote]

    Rookies get the task of carrying all the gum, candy, etc out to the bullpen in some sort of emasculating backpack, be it pink, a Hello Kitty, or something else. At the end of the season the bag is burned as the rookie will no longer have to carry the bag.[/quote]

    Nit-picky, but I believe that it is the pitcher with the least tenure (on the team or in the bigs, I’m not sure). Not necessarily a rookie.[/quote]

    07 yankee hazing

    better than having your jersey taped to you even

  • j10 | January 18, 2008 at 10:37 am |

    I was watching the Minnesota – Indiana game last night, and it got me thinking of a odd, kind of uni related question. Why were floors such as those in the Barn at Minnesota and Vandy so popular? Does it bring on a better vantage point if you are literally, sitting at floor level? Are there other schools that use this? I unfortunately have never seen (in person) floors like this, but have always been intrigued. I think there’s just that quirky appeal about them.

  • Stuby | January 18, 2008 at 10:37 am |

    I know we had discussions on this topic last year when it came out (and maybe more recently, also), but this is the worst Super Bowl logo I can remember. It looks like a car door or a fast food restaurant sign.

    The fonts, colors and shading just look awkward.

  • Bryan Redemske | January 18, 2008 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    Gamer for 50 bucks? I think not.

  • Rick | January 18, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    It’s real. Really fake…….

    I cannot believe how many positive feedbacks this guy has though.

  • dm00n [Doug] | January 18, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    I was checking out the F1 unveilings that have been held so far, and it seems like Red Bull had the most change. The only other thing of note so far is Toyota’s overalls going from this – (front | back) to this (note Jarno Trulli’s Italian flag shoes). A cleaner look, but a bit apron stringy. And that paint splash graphic looks like something from the side of a racing boat in 1989.

    One thing I thought was new, but was actually a carry-over from last year is BMW Sauber’s sleeve stripes which mimic the nose of their car. (The caps are new anyways, they had a solid white stripe last year).

  • Stuby | January 18, 2008 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”205355″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    Gamer for 50 bucks? I think not.[/quote]
    Nevermind they spelled it “Lambo” Field.

  • todd krevanchi | January 18, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    i dont see any reebok logos… caveat emptor.

    a few guys in my area are still pretty big into nfl retro jerseys. one thing i cant stand is when they say they are buying authentic jerseys for like 30 bucks. they think just because the numbers are sewn on, that its authentic.

    i guess i only view an authentic retro as a mitchell and ness jersey.

  • Rick | January 18, 2008 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”205358″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    It’s real.

    Really fake…….

    I cannot believe how many positive feedbacks this guy has though.[/quote]

    That guy sold a Brian Urlacher jersey with the “C” Captain’s patch for only $29.99……

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Neil | January 18, 2008 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”205324″][quote comment=”205311″]I understand the pink helmet thing from the article, but I’m afraid that I don’t know the history behind the pink backpack in baseball. I do know what the green dot is in football, though.[/quote]

    Rookies get the task of carrying all the gum, candy, etc out to the bullpen in some sort of emasculating backpack, be it pink, a Hello Kitty, or something else. At the end of the season the bag is burned as the rookie will no longer have to carry the bag.[/quote]

    Thanks Jo-Jo. Makes sense.

  • Jet | January 18, 2008 at 10:50 am |

    Since you posted the New Jersey high school hockey sweater gallery again, I’ll post my comment again:
    I LOVE ‘EM, and want ONE OF EACH!!!!

    -Jet

  • Randy Miller | January 18, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    Well, it wasn’t football patches, but Darrell Royal put the Texas Longhorns into burnt orange because it would hide footballs better than the old bright orange…

  • Cork | January 18, 2008 at 10:52 am |

    I am not convinced that the “3” on the Bears jersey is upside-down. there appears to be a bit of a “tug” on the jersey from left-to-right which might explain the discrepancy. Otherwise if it was just stitched on upside-down, wouldnt the numeral be all blue (the background color)?

  • dm00n [Doug] | January 18, 2008 at 10:53 am |

    A couple last F1 things, here is how a driver and mechanic should look.

    And this photo is great. It is captioned “Jochen Rindt, Graham Hill and Jackie Stewart celebrate Christmas in 1968.” Jochen Rindt was killed in practice at Monza in 1970 after deciding to run his car with no wings to reduce drag. He was the points leader at the time, and is the only man to have won the driver’s championship after being killed.

  • Kek | January 18, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    I’m a pretty big F1 fan and although I’m not sure about the 09 DC is wearing is just for fashion purposes. The official listing doesn’t show any other drivers with a leading zero.

    The car number is a point of contention for many fans, and I know the guys that cover the races on SPEED in the US. The FIA refuses to give the number a more prominent place on the car. See if you can find it on this car. It is nearly impossible to see those numbers when the cars are up to speed.

    I realize this isn’t Nascar where there are huge spaces of real estate on the car to throw the number but still, it could be a little bigger. And another thing about F1 is that the livery of the cars are identical for teammates. It’s not like in Nascar where two teammates (or more) have very different looking cars as far as colors, sponsorship, numbers, etc. Back in ’99, BAR Honda tried to skirt this rule by spliting the car down the middle between two different British American Tobacco cigarette brands, much to the chagrin of the FIA which eventually made them stop and they went back to the Lucky Strike car.

    It’s actually easier to figure out the drivers when they’re on the track by the color of their on-board camera (I think the driver on a team with the red camera is considered the primary driver).

    Another difference with numbering between F1 and Nascar is that in Nascar they are points of marketing (see the battle for Dale Jr. to try and get the #8 after he left DEI). Not the case in F1 because the numbers change from year to year based on the previous year’s championship standings. The driving champ gets #1, teammate gets #2 and then you go down through the standings.

    I’ll stop now and apologize to those of you that don’t care about motorsports!!!!

  • Chance | January 18, 2008 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”205287″]Manchester United will mark the 50th anniversary of the Munich Air disaster where the team lost 7 players and 21 died on Feb. 10th(details here http://news.bbc.co.u...)

    On the day United will wear a special replica of their 1958 kit on the day, devoid of the players’ names or shirt numbers on the back, while Manchester City’s (their oppents on the day) kit will incorporate a black ribbon with their sponsor’s branding removed.

    Also, the players are now taking the step of removing logos from their boots
    http://www.manutd.co...

    Should be a uni treat on a sad day.[/quote]
    I’m glad they’re doing this, but why remove shirt numbers? Numbers date back to the 1930s.

    You can see rare color (and very cool) video of the Busby Babes here, taken a year before the accident. They’re unfortunately in their blue change shirts, but it’s still great to see.

  • Chance | January 18, 2008 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”205314″]so, did the Cleveland Browns and St. Louis Browns share a mascot?

    http://www.sportsecy...
    Yes – a brownie.

  • jo-jo | January 18, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”205377″][quote comment=”205314″]so, did the Cleveland Browns and St. Louis Browns share a mascot?

    http://www.sportsecy...
    Yes – a brownie.[/quote]

    not……this?
    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Chance | January 18, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”205290″]In this pic Unitas has a single bar facemask that is blue. The colts didn’t wear blue facemasks till 1994. Was this a prototype that never made it to the field. Teams didn’t use colored facemasks till the late 70’s.

    http://images.art.co...

    I believe teams may have experimented with painting their facemasks in team colors well before the 1970s – on this SI cover from 1961 it sure looks like Starr’s facemask is peeling green paint.

    Maybe Unitas is holding a prototype painted facemask in that posed shot?

  • Rick | January 18, 2008 at 11:04 am |

    Here’s a Jamarcus Russell stitched jersey from that same guy that sold for $30. It looks like he has the same font for all of the jerseys, and he just uses it on each one….

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Chance | January 18, 2008 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”205381″][quote comment=”205377″][quote comment=”205314″]so, did the Cleveland Browns and St. Louis Browns share a mascot?

    http://www.sportsecy...
    Yes – a brownie.[/quote]

    not……this?
    http://en.wikipedia....

    Nope, nor

    :p

  • Shane | January 18, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”205287″]Manchester United will mark the 50th anniversary of the Munich Air disaster where the team lost 7 players and 21 died on Feb. 10th(details here http://news.bbc.co.u...)

    On the day United will wear a special replica of their 1958 kit on the day, devoid of the players’ names or shirt numbers on the back, while Manchester City’s (their oppents on the day) kit will incorporate a black ribbon with their sponsor’s branding removed.

    Also, the players are now taking the step of removing logos from their boots
    http://www.manutd.co...

    Should be a uni treat on a sad day.[/quote]

    Fantastic. Absolutely fantastic.

    Also Paul, the shirts are SUPPOSED to be tucked in in soccer. When I played, I was hounded by refs so often for that.

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 18, 2008 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”205362″][quote comment=”205358″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    It’s real.

    Really fake…….

    I cannot believe how many positive feedbacks this guy has though.[/quote]

    That guy sold a Brian Urlacher jersey with the “C” Captain’s patch for only $29.99……

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    The number doesn’t look right. It looks like it was ironed on. Plus, the damned jersey HAS SLEEVES!! An authentic, on field jersey with sleeves? Brett’s jersey has the sleeve cut off right below the stripes. Plus, there are no TV numbers on the shoulders.

    Gee thanks Paul … you’ve turned me into a uniform geek. :)

  • CraigD | January 18, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”205306″][quote comment=”205304″][quote comment=”205286″]I know for sure that there was a football team at one point that would sew football shaped patches onto there jerseys. I have no idea who it was or even what level of football it was. I just remember reading about it in a book about quirky football stories when I was a kid.[/quote]

    I had that same book. That’s exactly what I thought of when reading anout the footballs sewn to jerseys. I think it was something like “Strange but True Sports Stories”[/quote]

    this?

    i had the baseball one…[/quote]
    Close…it was this…Can’t believe I actually found that

  • Rick | January 18, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”205392″][quote comment=”205306″][quote comment=”205304″][quote comment=”205286″]I know for sure that there was a football team at one point that would sew football shaped patches onto there jerseys. I have no idea who it was or even what level of football it was. I just remember reading about it in a book about quirky football stories when I was a kid.[/quote]

    I had that same book. That’s exactly what I thought of when reading anout the footballs sewn to jerseys. I think it was something like “Strange but True Sports Stories”[/quote]

    this?

    i had the baseball one…[/quote]
    Close…it was this…Can’t believe I actually found that[/quote]

    Wow, that brings back memories. I totally had that book in the 80’s!

  • CraigD | January 18, 2008 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”205389″][quote comment=”205362″][quote comment=”205358″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    It’s real.

    Really fake…….

    I cannot believe how many positive feedbacks this guy has though.[/quote]

    That guy sold a Brian Urlacher jersey with the “C” Captain’s patch for only $29.99……

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    The number doesn’t look right. It looks like it was ironed on. Plus, the damned jersey HAS SLEEVES!! An authentic, on field jersey with sleeves? Brett’s jersey has the sleeve cut off right below the stripes. Plus, there are no TV numbers on the shoulders.

    Gee thanks Paul … you’ve turned me into a uniform geek. :)[/quote]

    Im guessing that his use of “Authentic On Field” jersey is like a brand name he made up. That way he can say “Authentic On Field” when those things never came near an NFL field.

  • CraigD | January 18, 2008 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”205389″][quote comment=”205362″][quote comment=”205358″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    It’s real.

    Really fake…….

    I cannot believe how many positive feedbacks this guy has though.[/quote]

    That guy sold a Brian Urlacher jersey with the “C” Captain’s patch for only $29.99……

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    The number doesn’t look right. It looks like it was ironed on. Plus, the damned jersey HAS SLEEVES!! An authentic, on field jersey with sleeves? Brett’s jersey has the sleeve cut off right below the stripes. Plus, there are no TV numbers on the shoulders.

    Gee thanks Paul … you’ve turned me into a uniform geek. :)[/quote]
    So many things wrong with the Urlacher jersey…look at this real one and this guy’s version
    The trim around the numbers, the silvery C and NOB.

  • Kek | January 18, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”205358″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    It’s real.

    Really fake…….

    I cannot believe how many positive feedbacks this guy has though.[/quote]
    I’m not surprised. I think there are many more people out there that are looking for a deal and don’t care about the details like we all do. You should see some of the absolute crap I see Steelers’ fans wearing. Black jerseys with white lettering on the name instead of the proper yellow, jerseys with no sleeve stripes at all, generic “Steelers 12” jerseys, unlicensed crap all over the place.

  • kevin | January 18, 2008 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”205337″][quote comment=”205324″][quote comment=”205311″]I understand the pink helmet thing from the article, but I’m afraid that I don’t know the history behind the pink backpack in baseball. I do know what the green dot is in football, though.[/quote]

    Rookies get the task of carrying all the gum, candy, etc out to the bullpen in some sort of emasculating backpack, be it pink, a Hello Kitty, or something else. At the end of the season the bag is burned as the rookie will no longer have to carry the bag.[/quote]

    Nit-picky, but I believe that it is the pitcher with the least tenure (on the team or in the bigs, I’m not sure). Not necessarily a rookie.[/quote]
    nit-picky, but i believe your a dumbass, its only rookies

  • derek | January 18, 2008 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”205404″][quote comment=”205337″][quote comment=”205324″][quote comment=”205311″]I understand the pink helmet thing from the article, but I’m afraid that I don’t know the history behind the pink backpack in baseball. I do know what the green dot is in football, though.[/quote]

    Rookies get the task of carrying all the gum, candy, etc out to the bullpen in some sort of emasculating backpack, be it pink, a Hello Kitty, or something else. At the end of the season the bag is burned as the rookie will no longer have to carry the bag.[/quote]

    Nit-picky, but I believe that it is the pitcher with the least tenure (on the team or in the bigs, I’m not sure). Not necessarily a rookie.[/quote]
    nit-picky, but i believe your a dumbass, its only rookies[/quote]
    woa, easy there buddy

  • JoeS | January 18, 2008 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”205400″][quote comment=”205389″][quote comment=”205362″][quote comment=”205358″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    It’s real.

    Really fake…….

    I cannot believe how many positive feedbacks this guy has though.[/quote]

    That guy sold a Brian Urlacher jersey with the “C” Captain’s patch for only $29.99……

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    The number doesn’t look right. It looks like it was ironed on. Plus, the damned jersey HAS SLEEVES!! An authentic, on field jersey with sleeves? Brett’s jersey has the sleeve cut off right below the stripes. Plus, there are no TV numbers on the shoulders.

    Gee thanks Paul … you’ve turned me into a uniform geek. :)[/quote]
    So many things wrong with the Urlacher jersey…look at this real one and this guy’s version
    The trim around the numbers, the silvery C and NOB.[/quote]

    Not to mention that THERE’S A 3 ON THE SLEEVE! At first I thought, well that’s not so bad for a guy making them in his basement, but then he can’t even get the sleeve numbers right? That’s just dumb.

  • bar57988 | January 18, 2008 at 11:38 am |

    I am disappointed in all of you today… Imagine a UW neophyte stumbling onto today’s post, and not seeing a single item about last night’s classic Leafs/Bruins matchup… Btw, I love the 09 numeral and stripe on the Red Bull driver, classic…

  • ryan c #40 | January 18, 2008 at 11:44 am |

    Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/
    GO PACK GO!!

    NO! the “4” is actually centered! haha! sorry…

  • ryan c #40 | January 18, 2008 at 11:45 am |

    maybe i missed this or something obvious… but why does Marquette’s jersey have an “A.L”???

  • Kenny | January 18, 2008 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”205358″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    It’s real.

    Really fake…….

    I cannot believe how many positive feedbacks this guy has though.[/quote]

    Well that’s like this one…the guy has like 97.5% positive feedback but the helmet is not a throwback, where are the numbers if it is a throwback?

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 11:47 am |

    [quote comment=”205384″][quote comment=”205381″][quote comment=”205377″][quote comment=”205314″]so, did the Cleveland Browns and St. Louis Browns share a mascot?

    http://www.sportsecy...
    Yes – a brownie.[/quote]

    not……this?
    http://en.wikipedia....

    Nope, nor

    :p [/quote]

    i once shared a brownie

    then i shared another brownie

    after which, i shared a cell with brownie

  • Juan Grande | January 18, 2008 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”205410″][quote comment=”205400″][quote comment=”205389″][quote comment=”205362″][quote comment=”205358″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    It’s real.

    Really fake…….

    I cannot believe how many positive feedbacks this guy has though.[/quote]

    That guy sold a Brian Urlacher jersey with the “C” Captain’s patch for only $29.99……

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    The number doesn’t look right. It looks like it was ironed on. Plus, the damned jersey HAS SLEEVES!! An authentic, on field jersey with sleeves? Brett’s jersey has the sleeve cut off right below the stripes. Plus, there are no TV numbers on the shoulders.

    Gee thanks Paul … you’ve turned me into a uniform geek. :)[/quote]
    So many things wrong with the Urlacher jersey…look at this real one and this guy’s version
    The trim around the numbers, the silvery C and NOB.[/quote]

    Not to mention that THERE’S A 3 ON THE SLEEVE! At first I thought, well that’s not so bad for a guy making them in his basement, but then he can’t even get the sleeve numbers right? That’s just dumb.[/quote]

    Not to mention that this guy is offering a Brett Favre jersey in SIZE 54. Unless Brett is loading up on the flaxseed oil, “the clear”, or the Golden Corral buffet line I don’t think any NFL QB does except this guy

  • Ryan Cousineau | January 18, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    Regarding uni-based scarlet letters, cycling has the maglia nera, which I now hear is being revived as the numero nero (scroll down, or search for “maglia”). It’s the tag for being the last-place rider in the Giro d’Italia (Tour of Italy) and as the name suggests, it used to be a black jersey, but now they’re reimplementing it this year as black racing numbers (actually white numbers on a black background, reverse of the usual numbers).

    As for the new Red Bull unis, they’re clearly referencing the greatest race car of all time with that stripe and number.

  • Juan Grande | January 18, 2008 at 11:49 am |

    Not to mention that THERE’S A 3 ON THE SLEEVE! At first I thought, well that’s not so bad for a guy making them in his basement, but then he can’t even get the sleeve numbers right? That’s just dumb.[/quote]

    Not to mention that this guy is offering a Brett Favre jersey in SIZE 54. Unless Brett is loading up on the flaxseed oil, “the clear”, or the Golden Corral buffet line I don’t think any NFL QB does except this guy[/quote]

    oops, try again

  • Juan Grande | January 18, 2008 at 11:50 am |

    ahh, hell…. Jared Lorenzen. Stupid Giants, I hope you lose!

  • joe | January 18, 2008 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”205355″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    Gamer for 50 bucks? I think not.[/quote]

    but it does not claim to be a gamer, just an authentic. I doubt its real also.

  • Jim | January 18, 2008 at 11:54 am |

    My hockey team had a bit of a penalty issue a couple years ago – we got too many of them. So now, the player with the most penalty minutes for the season and the player who had the most time in the sin bin last game have to wear pink socks during the next game.
    Kind of like painting the inside of a jail pink to calm down the inmates. http://www.cbsnews.c...
    So far it’s working.

  • Justin B | January 18, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”205430″][quote comment=”205355″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    Gamer for 50 bucks? I think not.[/quote]

    but it does not claim to be a gamer, just an authentic. I doubt its real also.[/quote]

    It does say “on field” though.

  • jo-jo | January 18, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”205423″][quote comment=”205384″][quote comment=”205381″][quote comment=”205377″][quote comment=”205314″]so, did the Cleveland Browns and St. Louis Browns share a mascot?

    http://www.sportsecy...
    Yes – a brownie.[/quote]

    not……this?
    http://en.wikipedia....

    Nope, nor

    :p [/quote]

    i once shared a brownie

    then i shared another brownie

    after which, i shared a cell with brownie[/quote]

    You’re doing a heck of a job

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 18, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”205423″][quote comment=”205384″][quote comment=”205381″][quote comment=”205377″][quote comment=”205314″]so, did the Cleveland Browns and St. Louis Browns share a mascot?

    http://www.sportsecy...
    Yes – a brownie.[/quote]

    not……this?
    http://en.wikipedia....

    Nope, nor

    :p [/quote]

    i once shared a brownie

    then i shared another brownie

    after which, i shared a cell with brownie[/quote]

    I wasn’t going to go there Phil … But I’m glad you did.

  • joe | January 18, 2008 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”205389″][quote comment=”205362″][quote comment=”205358″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    It’s real.

    Really fake…….

    I cannot believe how many positive feedbacks this guy has though.[/quote]

    That guy sold a Brian Urlacher jersey with the “C” Captain’s patch for only $29.99……

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    The number doesn’t look right. It looks like it was ironed on. Plus, the damned jersey HAS SLEEVES!! An authentic, on field jersey with sleeves? Brett’s jersey has the sleeve cut off right below the stripes. Plus, there are no TV numbers on the shoulders.

    Gee thanks Paul … you’ve turned me into a uniform geek. :)[/quote]
    how about hte fact the urlacher jersey has a 3 on one sleeve?

  • joe | January 18, 2008 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”205434″][quote comment=”205430″][quote comment=”205355″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    Gamer for 50 bucks? I think not.[/quote]

    but it does not claim to be a gamer, just an authentic. I doubt its real also.[/quote]

    It does say “on field” though.[/quote]

    right but most actual authentics say in the ad, same as the on field, on ice, on court, ect. They are fakes, but the on field thing is not the issue. He does not claim game worn. He is still full of BS though.

  • Philly Bill | January 18, 2008 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”205410″][quote comment=”205400″][quote comment=”205389″][quote comment=”205362″][quote comment=”205358″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    It’s real.

    Really fake…….

    I cannot believe how many positive feedbacks this guy has though.[/quote]

    That guy sold a Brian Urlacher jersey with the “C” Captain’s patch for only $29.99……

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    The number doesn’t look right. It looks like it was ironed on. Plus, the damned jersey HAS SLEEVES!! An authentic, on field jersey with sleeves? Brett’s jersey has the sleeve cut off right below the stripes. Plus, there are no TV numbers on the shoulders.

    Gee thanks Paul … you’ve turned me into a uniform geek. :)[/quote]
    So many things wrong with the Urlacher jersey…look at this real one and this guy’s version
    The trim around the numbers, the silvery C and NOB.[/quote]

    Not to mention that THERE’S A 3 ON THE SLEEVE! At first I thought, well that’s not so bad for a guy making them in his basement, but then he can’t even get the sleeve numbers right? That’s just dumb.[/quote]

    Oh, that’s ripe. Where the hell did that 3 come from?

  • tedkerwin | January 18, 2008 at 12:03 pm |

    Picture of cover from 1962 Giant/Packer Championship Game

    Was color printing so difficult that they could not attempt to make the Green Bay Packer uniforms look like the real deal? A generic red team for the cover seems lazy.

  • MichaelM | January 18, 2008 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”205425″]
    As for the new Red Bull unis, they’re clearly referencing the greatest race car of all time with that stripe and number.[/quote]

    Link to Greatest Car of all time is busted.

  • Chris Atl | January 18, 2008 at 12:07 pm |

    I was looking for some info on Erine Holmes (who died yesterday) and came across this

  • Stuby | January 18, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”205442″]Picture of cover from 1962 Giant/Packer Championship Game

    Was color printing so difficult that they could not attempt to make the Green Bay Packer uniforms look like the real deal? A generic red team for the cover seems lazy.[/quote]
    Well, that and they are both wearing home jerseys. I wonder if they already had the artwork done and just added the team names and location at the last minute. They probably only had a week turnaround and lucked out that one of the teams was the Giants.

  • Ben | January 18, 2008 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”205361″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    i dont see any reebok logos… caveat emptor.

    a few guys in my area are still pretty big into nfl retro jerseys. one thing i cant stand is when they say they are buying authentic jerseys for like 30 bucks. they think just because the numbers are sewn on, that its authentic.

    i guess i only view an authentic retro as a mitchell and ness jersey.[/quote]

    yeah i noticed there were no reebok arm logos after i posted. thanks everybody

  • Justin B | January 18, 2008 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”205440″][quote comment=”205434″][quote comment=”205430″][quote comment=”205355″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    Gamer for 50 bucks? I think not.[/quote]

    but it does not claim to be a gamer, just an authentic. I doubt its real also.[/quote]

    It does say “on field” though.[/quote]

    right but most actual authentics say in the ad, same as the on field, on ice, on court, ect. They are fakes, but the on field thing is not the issue. He does not claim game worn. He is still full of BS though.[/quote]

    If “on the field” doesn’t mean game worn, what does it mean? ( I say this because I really don’t know.)

  • jo-jo | January 18, 2008 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”205445″][quote comment=”205442″]Picture of cover from 1962 Giant/Packer Championship Game

    Was color printing so difficult that they could not attempt to make the Green Bay Packer uniforms look like the real deal? A generic red team for the cover seems lazy.[/quote]
    Well, that and they are both wearing home jerseys. I wonder if they already had the artwork done and just added the team names and location at the last minute. They probably only had a week turnaround and lucked out that one of the teams was the Giants.[/quote]
    agreed

  • DawgFan2007 | January 18, 2008 at 12:16 pm |

    Gotta love e-bay, check out the Bradshaw jersey.

  • Stuby | January 18, 2008 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”205449″]Gotta love e-bay, check out the Bradshaw jersey.[/quote]
    What, is that from “Rollerball”?

  • Assgrabber | January 18, 2008 at 12:18 pm |

    Well, I hate to admit it to this group, but I must now admit my private uni-shame. I have purachse a less than factual jersey from one of these hucksters on eBay. I got mine from Korea because I wanted a cheap jersey to represent Jack Lambert of the Steelers. This is what I found:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Yes, the Steelers of his era did not have the logo on the chest and I am sure there are 50 other things wrong with it…but I bought it anyway…and I am proud to wear it…and chicks dig it, yet all the while, in the back of my head….I know I could end up here on UniWatch as the guy referenced in a post like:”I saw this guy at the Steelers game with a hideous Lambert jersey….”

    I was weak….I admit it…..you can’t tell me none of you have done the same!

    /and yes, this is done tongue in cheek….somewhat/
    AG

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”205450″][quote comment=”205449″]Gotta love e-bay, check out the Bradshaw jersey.[/quote]
    What, is that from “Rollerball”?[/quote]

    jon-a-than…jon-a-than…jon-a-than

  • Kenny | January 18, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”205449″]Gotta love e-bay, check out the Bradshaw jersey.[/quote]

    WHAT THE F*CK IS THAT?!?!?

  • Chance | January 18, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”205395″][quote comment=”205392″][quote comment=”205306″][quote comment=”205304″][quote comment=”205286″]I know for sure that there was a football team at one point that would sew football shaped patches onto there jerseys. I have no idea who it was or even what level of football it was. I just remember reading about it in a book about quirky football stories when I was a kid.[/quote]

    I had that same book. That’s exactly what I thought of when reading anout the footballs sewn to jerseys. I think it was something like “Strange but True Sports Stories”[/quote]

    this?

    i had the baseball one…[/quote]
    Close…it was this…Can’t believe I actually found that[/quote]

    Wow, that brings back memories.

    I totally had that book in the 80’s![/quote]

    As did I.

    Wow. I knew that story sounded familiar.

    In the same vein as the story above, wasn’t there also one in that book about an early football team dying footballs maroon to match their jerseys, so defenders wouldn’t know who was actually carrying the ball?

  • todd krevanchi | January 18, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”205421″]maybe i missed this or something obvious… but why does Marquette’s jersey have an “A.L”???[/quote]

    its not A.L. its actually the name Al… for former coach Al mcguire

  • Mike | January 18, 2008 at 12:35 pm |

    This spurred me on to check out what patch it was the Steelers/Lambert did have on their jerseys. It turned out to be the Bicentennial logo which has been addressed on here before.

    Anyway, I ended up on Lamberts website and he sells signed Steelers jerseys. It is odd they use new jerseys with old numbers and the current Steelers patch, much like the assgrabber’s $15 version, but for much, much more….

    http://www.lambert58...

    And I like the guy who got Lambert’s face on his back, then turned the autograph into a tattoo….

    http://www.lambert58...

  • Johnny O | January 18, 2008 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”205421″]maybe i missed this or something obvious… but why does Marquette’s jersey have an “A.L”???[/quote]

    It is for former coach Al McGuire, who coached Marquette from ’64-’77. He had a 295-80 record with Marquette and won the 1977 National Championship.

    He died Jan. 26, 2001 from leukemia.

  • u2horn | January 18, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”205404″]i believe [b]your[/b] a dumbass, [/quote]

    hmm

  • u2horn | January 18, 2008 at 12:38 pm |

    oops, I’m a dumbass too I guess.

  • ginsk | January 18, 2008 at 12:39 pm |

    uniwatch today set off the phishing filter on my computer, anyone else???????????

  • Bob H | January 18, 2008 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”205449″]Gotta love e-bay, check out the Bradshaw jersey.[/quote]

    Make sure to send in your immediate “PAYMAENT”.

    And notice that the listing says 54/XXL but the close-up of the label has a “L” size tag on it.

  • joe | January 18, 2008 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”205447″][quote comment=”205440″][quote comment=”205434″][quote comment=”205430″][quote comment=”205355″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    Gamer for 50 bucks? I think not.[/quote]

    but it does not claim to be a gamer, just an authentic. I doubt its real also.[/quote]

    It does say “on field” though.[/quote]

    right but most actual authentics say in the ad, same as the on field, on ice, on court, ect. They are fakes, but the on field thing is not the issue. He does not claim game worn. He is still full of BS though.[/quote]

    If “on the field” doesn’t mean game worn, what does it mean? ( I say this because I really don’t know.)[/quote]

    “on the field” is different from “on field”. You can buy a RBK ugly edge authentic on ice jersey. That does not mean its ever been on the ice. It means in theory of your team is desperate they can sign you to a contract from the stands and you have a jersey that is identical to what the players have and would be able to use it in a game.

  • Ryan Cousineau | January 18, 2008 at 12:48 pm |

    Oops? Greatest race car ever link still works for me, but I am of course referring to Herbie the Love Bug (that’s a different pic).

    All I’m saying is you can’t have a red-white-blue stripe with a round number plate overlaid without automatically referencing Herbie. It would be like painting a race car black and gold.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | January 18, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”205326″][quote comment=”205313″]Hey does anyone have any pics from the Marquette Louisville game from last night? I heard Marquete wore their powder blues and had a diffferent font for their lettering. Can anyone confirm this?[/quote]

    Light Blue jerseys

    Compared to this…nothing different with the font

    video here too[/quote]
    ….saw pics this AM….SWEET! Now ifthey could only bring back Butch Lee ;-)

  • Justin B | January 18, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    Does anyone know where I can buy patriots gear with the “NE” on the apparel?

  • James Craven | January 18, 2008 at 12:49 pm |

    ‘Twas watching a replay of the Pittsburgh-Buffalo Winter Classic game on NHL Network today, and I noticed that Ty Conklin , the Penguinos’ goalie (there’s my Gene Hart influance there with “Penguinos”) didn’t have the tie on the jersey. Anyone catch that one on the original telecast?

  • Kevin | January 18, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    Washington Post’s Sports Bog has an image of Gilbert Arenas playing ball with a high school ballboy. Anyway, the OTHER guy in the picture, on the far left:

    OMG, dude! What size are those shorts?

  • assgrabber | January 18, 2008 at 12:51 pm |

    How cool would it be it Eli came out wearing this #10 helmet on Sunday

  • Bob | January 18, 2008 at 12:59 pm |

    “In Oklahoma’s case, fired head coach Micheal Ray Richardson simply took the road unis until he was rehired a week later;

    really? he got fired and took the road unis?
    kinda like, im taking my ball and im going home?

    Was it Lloyd McClendon who argued with the umpire, got ejected and then picked up the base and brought it with him?

    http://www2.jsonline...

  • seven | January 18, 2008 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”205336″]I’m not counting hockey, soccer, or other sports where the jerseys are meant to be untucked.

    Which soccer jerseys meant to be untucked? I can’t think of any. Sure, they get pulled out during games, but so do (American) football jerseys.[/quote]

    In the 90s Manchester United had a black shirt with Umbro written in huge letters on the back just above the hem. When the shirt was tucked in it wasn’t visible, but you could see it when the shirt was untucked.

  • Kek | January 18, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”205472″]“In Oklahoma’s case, fired head coach Micheal Ray Richardson simply took the road unis until he was rehired a week later;

    really? he got fired and took the road unis?
    kinda like, im taking my ball and im going home?

    Was it Lloyd McClendon who argued with the umpire, got ejected and then picked up the base and brought it with him?

    http://www2.jsonline...
    Yep

  • Ryan Cousineau | January 18, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    Joe:

    laugh about signing a player from the stands, and then read the strange story of Chris Levesque, the goalie who went from third-stringer for the local university team (UBC) to NHL backup in about four hours.

    The reason the first- and second-string goalies were not usable has to do with the arcana of NHL rules about signing walk-ons, as explained in the article above. For all I know those rules are obsolete under the new contract.

    ObUni: the team apparently had no problem getting a correct uniform on Levesque’s back.

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 1:08 pm |

    As for the helmet topic, I always think of these facemasks as defining the 80’s:

    Jeff Hostetler
    http://www.giants.co...

    E.D.
    http://cache.viewima...

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 18, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”205460″]uniwatch today set off the phishing filter on my computer, anyone else???????????[/quote]

    I got it also.

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 1:09 pm |

    Was it Lloyd McClendon who argued with the umpire, got ejected and then picked up the base and brought it with him?

    http://www2.jsonline

    Yep

    Thanks, kek…I should have continued looking!

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 18, 2008 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”205479″][quote comment=”205460″]uniwatch today set off the phishing filter on my computer, anyone else???????????[/quote]

    I got it also.[/quote]

    And now it is showing up in yellow in the address box and I have a “Suspicious Website” message next to the address.

    Oh Paul …

  • Kek | January 18, 2008 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”205480″]Was it Lloyd McClendon who argued with the umpire, got ejected and then picked up the base and brought it with him?

    http://www2.jsonline

    Yep

    Thanks, kek…I should have continued looking![/quote]
    No prob. I would argue that was the high point of his managerial tenure in Pittsburgh

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”205458″][quote comment=”205404″]i believe [b]your[/b] a dumbass, [/quote]

    hmm[/quote]
    [quote comment=”205459″]oops, I’m a dumbass too I guess.[/quote]

    but…

    your grammar is flawless

  • Moose | January 18, 2008 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”205362″][quote comment=”205358″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    It’s real.

    Really fake…….

    I cannot believe how many positive feedbacks this guy has though.[/quote]

    That guy sold a Brian Urlacher jersey with the “C” Captain’s patch for only $29.99……

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Why is thre a “3” on the sleeve of the Urlacher Jersey? FAKE

  • assgrabber | January 18, 2008 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”205482″][quote comment=”205480″]Was it Lloyd McClendon who argued with the umpire, got ejected and then picked up the base and brought it with him?

    http://www2.jsonline

    Yep

    Thanks, kek…I should have continued looking![/quote]
    No prob. I would argue that was the high point of his managerial tenure in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    The base remained in the Pirates dugout tunnel for the rest of the season and disappeared once the season ended.

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”205481″][quote comment=”205479″][quote comment=”205460″]uniwatch today set off the phishing filter on my computer, anyone else???????????[/quote]

    I got it also.[/quote]

    And now it is showing up in yellow in the address box and I have a “Suspicious Website” message next to the address.

    Oh Paul …[/quote]

    prolly due to everyone linking to the urlacher jersey

  • Kek | January 18, 2008 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”205485″][quote comment=”205482″][quote comment=”205480″]Was it Lloyd McClendon who argued with the umpire, got ejected and then picked up the base and brought it with him?

    http://www2.jsonline

    Yep

    Thanks, kek…I should have continued looking![/quote]
    No prob. I would argue that was the high point of his managerial tenure in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    The base remained in the Pirates dugout tunnel for the rest of the season and disappeared once the season ended.[/quote]
    I remember that. I had heard a story that Brian Giles took it or wanted it. I think he wanted Mac to autograph it. That would be a “where are they now” type story (more like where is IT now!)

    That might be a question one fo the beat writers could address.

  • Dave Richards | January 18, 2008 at 1:30 pm |

    I know UMass basketball had untucked uniforms at some point in the 70s — wish I had a picture to link to.

  • Chance | January 18, 2008 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”205473″][quote comment=”205336″]I’m not counting hockey, soccer, or other sports where the jerseys are meant to be untucked.

    Which soccer jerseys meant to be untucked? I can’t think of any. Sure, they get pulled out during games, but so do (American) football jerseys.[/quote]

    In the 90s Manchester United had a black shirt with Umbro written in huge letters on the back just above the hem. When the shirt was tucked in it wasn’t visible, but you could see it when the shirt was untucked.[/quote]

    Arsenal did that in the 1990s as well:

    home
    away

    You can see more pics here.

    Personally, I hate this look. Just like I hate sweatpants with writing across the ass. Looks awful.

  • ryan c #40 | January 18, 2008 at 1:31 pm |

    “maybe i missed this or something obvious… but why does Marquette’s jersey have an “A.L”???
    It is for former coach Al McGuire, who coached Marquette from ‘64-’77. He had a 295-80 record with Marquette and won the 1977 National Championship.
    He died Jan. 26, 2001 from leukemia.”

    hmmm… nice tribute! thanks for the info everybody!

  • jsdryden | January 18, 2008 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”205481″][quote comment=”205479″][quote comment=”205460″]uniwatch today set off the phishing filter on my computer, anyone else???????????[/quote]

    I got it also.[/quote]

    And now it is showing up in yellow in the address box and I have a “Suspicious Website” message next to the address.

    Oh Paul …[/quote]

    Same here, first time I have ever seen any security warnings.

  • Taylor | January 18, 2008 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”205421″]maybe i missed this or something obvious… but why does Marquette’s jersey have an “A.L”???[/quote]

    It’s for Al Macguire, coach of the 1977 championship team. I can’t decide if it’s cool or dorky.

  • JeffM | January 18, 2008 at 1:45 pm |

    does anyone have an explanation for Chris Canty’s Facemask…I thought maybe to keep peoples hands out of his facemask while he’s rushing

  • jesse | January 18, 2008 at 1:59 pm |

    for some reason i cant find the link to the slideshow of high school jerseys at the prudential center, could somebody please email it to me at hockeyscorer50@aol.com thanks

  • diz | January 18, 2008 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”205373″]I’m a pretty big F1 fan and although I’m not sure about the 09 DC is wearing is just for fashion purposes. The official listing doesn’t show any other drivers with a leading zero.[/quote]

    It’ll just be a design thing, since his teammate has a two-digit number. In most European-based/originated competitions, leading zeroes are used the same way as in mathematics – they’re of no real consequence. An 000000009 is the same as an 09 and is just 9 really.

  • joe | January 18, 2008 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”205475″]Joe:

    laugh about signing a player from the stands, and then read the strange story of Chris Levesque, the goalie who went from third-stringer for the local university team (UBC) to NHL backup in about four hours.

    The reason the first- and second-string goalies were not usable has to do with the arcana of NHL rules about signing walk-ons, as explained in the article above. For all I know those rules are obsolete under the new contract.

    ObUni: the team apparently had no problem getting a correct uniform on Levesque’s back.[/quote]
    sweet, now if only I had talent, the ‘Hawks might sign me for a day.

  • derek | January 18, 2008 at 2:21 pm |

    what is up with the beat ass “suspicious website” warning?

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”205513″]what is up with the beat ass “suspicious website” warning?[/quote]

    phishing filter FAQ

    i wonder how many more comments we’ll get on that today

  • Original Jim | January 18, 2008 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”205400″]So many things wrong with the Urlacher jersey…look at this real one and this guy’s version
    The trim around the numbers, the silvery C and NOB.[/quote]

    Neither of those are game-authentic jerseys. The numbers on the sleeves should be short and bold, not just shrunken down versions of the fronts or backs (which are also different from each other).

  • Adam | January 18, 2008 at 2:43 pm |

    the redbull F1 uniforms look alot like what Aj Allmendinger and Brain Vickers wore in the cup series last year. goes along well with the unique, asymetrical paint scheme the cars started the season with, which also featured the stripe down the length of the car.

  • Rick | January 18, 2008 at 2:45 pm |

    I’ll fess up, I was scammed by a Asian football jersey seller on Ebay too. My problem was, I wanted a jersey that just came out, and the sneaky seller used a stock photo (probably from the NFLshop or Giants website) so I had nothing to really go off. In the middle of the 5, where it should be a right angle, the 5’s are rounded on the jersey, and I’ve never worn it to this day. I just look at it in my closet and get disgusted!

    http://dsp.imageg.ne...

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 2:52 pm |

    does anyone have an explanation for Chris Canty’s Facemask…I thought maybe to keep peoples hands out of his facemask while he’s rushing

    I believe he had it custom made by Schutt in order to protect his eyes from random fingers being poked into the mask. While at UVA, he suffered just such an injury, detaching his retina.

    Check out his website:

    http://chriscanty99....

  • Paul | January 18, 2008 at 2:56 pm |

    Anyone else catch the logo blunder in this week’s SI (Favre on cover). In the Z’s picks page, they used the old San Diego helmet (blue). WOW!!!

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 3:01 pm |

    know UMass basketball had untucked uniforms at some point in the 70s — wish I had a picture to link to.

    Check out this retro Marquette jersey made up for D. Wade:

    Eastbay also has the white version:

  • SouthSider | January 18, 2008 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”205286″]I know for sure that there was a football team at one point that would sew football shaped patches onto there jerseys. I have no idea who it was or even what level of football it was. I just remember reading about it in a book about quirky football stories when I was a kid.[/quote]

    Hey Jason,

    I think I had the same book. The story was something about a game Princeton at Harvard (I think). Princeton came out in dark orange jerseys with big pads sewn onto the midsection to resemble a football. Harvard’s coach protested but the referees allowed the jerseys. Princeton went up by two TDs at halftime. When the game resumed for the second half, Harvard (the home team) came out in crimson jerseys (they may have been wearing them for the first half as well) and when the referees went to get the game balls, Harvard produced a bag of footballs that had been painted red to match the jerseys. They then went on to comeback and win the game. At least, that’s how I remember it…

  • assgrabber | January 18, 2008 at 3:29 pm |

    Ernie Holmes, a defensive lineman and member of the famed Steel Curtain for the Steelers in their dynasty years in the 1970s, died last night in a traffic accident in Texas.

    Several news outlets in Texas are reporting that Mr. Holmes, 59, died after a one-vehicle crash on Highway 69 near Lumberton shortly after 9 p.m.

    The Beaumont (Texas) Enterprise reported that Holmes was killed when his SUV left the road and flipped several times, ejecting him. Holmes was not wearing a seat belt, the Enterprise said.

  • Trevor Kruger | January 18, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”205326″][quote comment=”205313″]Hey does anyone have any pics from the Marquette Louisville game from last night? I heard Marquete wore their powder blues and had a diffferent font for their lettering. Can anyone confirm this?[/quote]

    Light Blue jerseys

    Compared to this…nothing different with the font

    video here too[/quote]
    wrong. Forget that the navy jersey has 2 outlines around the white lettering, whereas the light blue has only one outline. Just check the Q’s tail on each.

  • GB | January 18, 2008 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”205425″]Regarding uni-based scarlet letters, cycling has the maglia nera, which I now hear is being revived as the numero nero (scroll down, or search for “maglia”). It’s the tag for being the last-place rider in the Giro d’Italia (Tour of Italy) and as the name suggests, it used to be a black jersey, but now they’re reimplementing it this year as black racing numbers (actually white numbers on a black background, reverse of the usual numbers).[/quote]
    There’s also the lantern rouge number in the TdF for the lowest place rider in the GC. I believe the rider’s number is red instead of black.

  • Trevor Kruger | January 18, 2008 at 3:56 pm |

    So, I got on the Iowa State website and started looking through the Centennial photo gallery(full of great shots of historic Cyclone uni’s) and stumbled upon this 1974 shot of one of our current radio commentators Eric Heft playing against Iowa. If you look at the side of the shorts the logo seems pretty similar to this. So much for that being a “new” logo.

  • Kerry P | January 18, 2008 at 3:56 pm |

    “On Field” is what Reebok calls it’s most expensive authentic jerseys. Basically, they’re saying that you’re buying the same thing that the players would wear on the field.

    “Game Worn/Used” would indicate that a player actually WORE the jersey while playing.

    That being said, it’s still not a genuine Reebok “On Field” jersey. But it could be worse, he could be trying to seel THESE.

  • Jerico | January 18, 2008 at 3:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”205454″][quote comment=”205395″][quote comment=”205392″][quote comment=”205306″][quote comment=”205304″][quote comment=”205286″]I know for sure that there was a football team at one point that would sew football shaped patches onto there jerseys. I have no idea who it was or even what level of football it was. I just remember reading about it in a book about quirky football stories when I was a kid.[/quote]

    I had that same book. That’s exactly what I thought of when reading anout the footballs sewn to jerseys. I think it was something like “Strange but True Sports Stories”[/quote]

    this?

    i had the baseball one…[/quote]
    Close…it was this…Can’t believe I actually found that[/quote]

    Wow, that brings back memories.

    I totally had that book in the 80’s![/quote]

    As did I.

    Wow. I knew that story sounded familiar.[/quote]

    The Football Hall of Shame had it, too. I have most of the Nash and Zullo books, including the original Baseball Hall of Shame, which had some uniform stories, as well (color-coded position jerseys in the 19th century, the Brooklyn Dodgers’ checkerboard/waffle-iron jerseys, Andy Messersmith’s “Channel 17” jersey, the White Sox’s bermuda shorts). The Football Hall of Shame also had uni stories, too, from Pittsburgh’s old prison unis to the running back who had loops sewn onto his pants so he can be thrown forward for positive yards.

  • James Craven | January 18, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”205425″]“As for the new Red Bull unis, they’re clearly referencing the greatest race car of all time with that stripe and number.”[/quote]

    No wonder Lindsay Lohan can’t drive. She’s now working in the morgue.

  • Joey | January 18, 2008 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”205355″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    Gamer for 50 bucks? I think not.[/quote]
    well i just bought what looks to be an authentic LT jersey from Ebay for 60 dollars and the nfl and reebok logos are perfectily correct so if it isnt real and looks as good as mine does why does it matter?

  • Rick | January 18, 2008 at 4:20 pm |

    http://cache.gawker....

    Free beer at some bar in Green Bay during Packers games until somebody takes a wizz, or leaves….

  • Perry | January 18, 2008 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”205473″][quote comment=”205336″]I’m not counting hockey, soccer, or other sports where the jerseys are meant to be untucked.

    Which soccer jerseys meant to be untucked? I can’t think of any. Sure, they get pulled out during games, but so do (American) football jerseys.[/quote]

    In the 90s Manchester United had a black shirt with Umbro written in huge letters on the back just above the hem. When the shirt was tucked in it wasn’t visible, but you could see it when the shirt was untucked.[/quote]

    I have an Arsenal home shirt from the late 90s (JVC shirt sponsor) that has Gunners in that same place just above the hem. But I bought it on e-Bay, and had no access to watching live games the year they wore it, so I have no idea if it’s authentic or not, although I believe it is. Certainly beautifully done if it’s a knockoff.

  • PhillyDude | January 18, 2008 at 4:26 pm |

    NFL JERSEY TV NUMBERS QUESTION

    Could sonebody please tell me why some NFL teams place the tv numbers too far toward the front of of the jersey. In other words, if it is a two-number player, e.g. #20 Dawkins on the Philadelphia Eagles, on the left shoulder the zero would be placed directly over the Reebok logo and the two would be place up toward the yoke/neck of the jersey (rather than the #20 being centered over the Reebok logo). Here is an example of what I am talking about:
    http://www.viewimage...

  • Rick | January 18, 2008 at 4:28 pm |

    Uniform news from English policewomen:

    http://www.dailymail...

  • Al | January 18, 2008 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”205484″][quote comment=”205362″][quote comment=”205358″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    It’s real.

    Really fake…….

    I cannot believe how many positive feedbacks this guy has though.[/quote]

    That guy sold a Brian Urlacher jersey with the “C” Captain’s patch for only $29.99……

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Why is thre a “3” on the sleeve of the Urlacher Jersey? [/quote]

    Bronko Nagurski memorial patch??

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”205543″][quote comment=”205355″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    Gamer for 50 bucks? I think not.[/quote]
    well i just bought what looks to be an authentic LT jersey from Ebay for 60 dollars and the nfl and reebok logos are perfectily correct so if it isnt real and looks as good as mine does why does it matter?[/quote]

    which LT?

    if it’s the original LT, it might be a gamer…didn’t he start sellin all his shit for bah-say a while back?

  • Al | January 18, 2008 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”205493″] Just like I hate sweatpants with writing across the ass. Looks awful.[/quote]

    What would the JYD say?

    “THUMP!”

  • Justin PGH | January 18, 2008 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”205490″][quote comment=”205485″][quote comment=”205482″][quote comment=”205480″]Was it Lloyd McClendon who argued with the umpire, got ejected and then picked up the base and brought it with him?

    http://www2.jsonline

    Yep

    Thanks, kek…I should have continued looking![/quote]
    No prob. I would argue that was the high point of his managerial tenure in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    The base remained in the Pirates dugout tunnel for the rest of the season and disappeared once the season ended.[/quote]
    I remember that. I had heard a story that Brian Giles took it or wanted it. I think he wanted Mac to autograph it. That would be a “where are they now” type story (more like where is IT now!)

    That might be a question one fo the beat writers could address.[/quote]

    I might be biased being a Bucs fan and all, but I think that Stargell memorial patch they wore that year was awesome. Simple, understated, just a quiet remembrance of a great Bucco.

  • Mike | January 18, 2008 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”205552″][quote comment=”205490″][quote comment=”205485″][quote comment=”205482″][quote comment=”205480″]Was it Lloyd McClendon who argued with the umpire, got ejected and then picked up the base and brought it with him?

    http://www2.jsonline

    Yep

    Thanks, kek…I should have continued looking![/quote]
    No prob. I would argue that was the high point of his managerial tenure in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    The base remained in the Pirates dugout tunnel for the rest of the season and disappeared once the season ended.[/quote]
    I remember that. I had heard a story that Brian Giles took it or wanted it. I think he wanted Mac to autograph it. That would be a “where are they now” type story (more like where is IT now!)

    That might be a question one fo the beat writers could address.[/quote]

    I might be biased being a Bucs fan and all, but I think that Stargell memorial patch they wore that year was awesome. Simple, understated, just a quiet remembrance of a great Bucco.[/quote]

    Totally agree

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 18, 2008 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”205551″][quote comment=”205493″] Just like I hate sweatpants with writing across the ass. Looks awful.[/quote]

    What would the JYD say?

    “THUMP!”[/quote]

    Depends on who’s ass in my opinion.

  • Joey | January 18, 2008 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”205550″][quote comment=”205543″][quote comment=”205355″][quote comment=”205347″]Boys and girls….
    does this jersey look legit?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    GO PACK GO!![/quote]

    Gamer for 50 bucks? I think not.[/quote]
    well i just bought what looks to be an authentic LT jersey from Ebay for 60 dollars and the nfl and reebok logos are perfectily correct so if it isnt real and looks as good as mine does why does it matter?[/quote]

    which LT?

    if it’s the original LT, it might be a gamer…didn’t he start sellin all his shit for bah-say a while back?[/quote]

    Ladainian Tomlinson powder blue jersey from this year with the revamped numbers and shoulder bolt. For 60 bucks I am skepticle but i cant tell the difference It looks good and looks right so it was 60 bucks well spent.

  • Mike | January 18, 2008 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”205490″][quote comment=”205485″][quote comment=”205482″][quote comment=”205480″]Was it Lloyd McClendon who argued with the umpire, got ejected and then picked up the base and brought it with him?

    http://www2.jsonline

    Yep

    Thanks, kek…I should have continued looking![/quote]
    No prob. I would argue that was the high point of his managerial tenure in Pittsburgh[/quote]

    The base remained in the Pirates dugout tunnel for the rest of the season and disappeared once the season ended.[/quote]
    I remember that. I had heard a story that Brian Giles took it or wanted it. I think he wanted Mac to autograph it. That would be a “where are they now” type story (more like where is IT now!)

    That might be a question one fo the beat writers could address.[/quote]

    Maybe he should have donated to these guys. Talk about some beat up equipment…

    linky

  • Mike | January 18, 2008 at 5:10 pm |

    WOW, fantastic shot of the White Sox black unis with white pinstripes…and WHITE SOCKS

    linkspot

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 5:13 pm |

    for footy fans…

    MLS superdraft pics

  • Brett | January 18, 2008 at 5:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”205278″]Re: Brownie with cleats:

    Miami Seahawks?

    So, I looked ’em up. I didn’t know that the Baltimore Colts started in 1946 as the Miami Seahawks. They lasted one year in Miami and then moved to Baltimore. Back then, it was the All-America Football Conference.[/quote]

    These are not the same Baltimore Colts that moved to Indianapolis.

    If you read the article, they folded after 1950.

    The Current Indianapolis Colts started in Boston as the Boston Yanks in 1944, moved to New York in 1949 (New York Bulldogs, New York Yanks 1950 – 51) moved to Dallas to become the Dallas Texans in 1952 and Baltimore in 1953.

    Here.

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 5:43 pm |

    doug flutie has no love for the stirrups

  • DonD | January 18, 2008 at 6:09 pm |

    “Hitler wears an old Cowboys jersey”

    This is friggen hilarious!!

  • DonD | January 18, 2008 at 6:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”205614″]”Hitler wears an old Cowboys jersey”

    This is friggen hilarious!![/quote]

  • DonD | January 18, 2008 at 6:11 pm |

    I can’t get it to link.

  • Mets Fan AZ | January 18, 2008 at 6:16 pm |

    From Simmons column on page 2 “a certain much-travelled NBA player who I’m not allowed to mention since he has never been suspended for marijuana use — even though he’s famous for turning at least two of his new teammates into the collective Chong to his Cheech every time he switches teams” who is this guy? My first guess was Sam Perkins but I don’t think he’s playing anymore. If anyone knows…

  • Jen | January 18, 2008 at 6:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”205370″]I am not convinced that the “3” on the Bears jersey is upside-down. there appears to be a bit of a “tug” on the jersey from left-to-right which might explain the discrepancy. Otherwise if it was just stitched on upside-down, wouldnt the numeral be all blue (the background color)?[/quote]

    If the “3” was upside-down it would look like an “E”. And it wouldn’t be all blue if the error was made when the white was first stitched to the blue. Looks like the number was flipped front to back and the wrong side of the white was stitched to the wrong side of the blue.

  • David Maunula | January 18, 2008 at 6:22 pm |

    Some site selling “Pro Fit” baseball pants. But they are actually pajama style pants, yech!

    http://www.twentytwo...

  • Dom | January 18, 2008 at 6:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”205621″]From Simmons column on page 2 “a certain much-travelled NBA player who I’m not allowed to mention since he has never been suspended for marijuana use — even though he’s famous for turning at least two of his new teammates into the collective Chong to his Cheech every time he switches teams” who is this guy? My first guess was Sam Perkins but I don’t think he’s playing anymore. If anyone knows…[/quote]

    I was thinkin Ricky Davis

  • Dom | January 18, 2008 at 6:25 pm |

    The best Ricky Davis pic

    http://www.espn.go.c...

  • Justin | January 18, 2008 at 6:44 pm |

    OK, the final version of the KC Wizards’ 2008 jersey is up. It looks a lot better than I initially thought it would. They are keeping the lettering, adding yellow as a secondary color and a darker shade of blue as well. They also appear to be making their old secondary logo into their new primary and dropping the old rainbow arch. Here’s three views of the new finished uniform courtesy of Andy Mead at Your Sport Shooter. (Try to imagine the photos without the watermarks.)
    New logo shoulder patch

    New jersey, new draft pick
    Full new uniform

  • john | January 18, 2008 at 7:19 pm |

    ABCNews.com is running a story about drug runners using “cloned” delivery trucks for product transport. Morons they are, they still got the FedEx logo’s negative space right. There’s a gallery of that and other iffy logos in the story.

  • EK | January 18, 2008 at 7:54 pm |

    Has anyone seen what the new Tampa Bay Rays bp hats will look like?

    I saw one site where it looked basically like a bp version of the regular ‘TB’ hat, but I’ve also seen a version that looks like the ‘sunburst’ logo. It’s not for sale on the MLB shop. Anyone know what the design will be?

  • Jordan | January 18, 2008 at 9:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”205371″]A couple last F1 things, here is how a driver and mechanic should look.

    And this photo is great. It is captioned “Jochen Rindt, Graham Hill and Jackie Stewart celebrate Christmas in 1968.” Jochen Rindt was killed in practice at Monza in 1970 after deciding to run his car with no wings to reduce drag. He was the points leader at the time, and is the only man to have won the driver’s championship after being killed.[/quote]

    You’re spot on — Graham Hill defines the look of a Formula One driver of the golden age, complete with the oar-bladed helmet theme borrowed from rowing club cap. Makes me want to break out the Grand Prix dvd.

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 9:09 pm |

    From Simmons column on page 2 “a certain much-travelled NBA player who I’m not allowed to mention since he has never been suspended for marijuana use — even though he’s famous for turning at least two of his new teammates into the collective Chong to his Cheech every time he switches teams” who is this guy? My first guess was Sam Perkins but I don’t think he’s playing anymore. If anyone knows…

    Chief and Chong

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 9:12 pm |

    From Simmons column on page 2 “a certain much-travelled NBA player who I’m not allowed to mention since he has never been suspended for marijuana use — even though he’s famous for turning at least two of his new teammates into the collective Chong to his Cheech every time he switches teams” who is this guy? My first guess was Sam Perkins but I don’t think he’s playing anymore. If anyone knows…

    Chief and Chong

  • Jordan | January 18, 2008 at 9:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”205630″]The best Ricky Davis pic

    http://www.espn.go.c...

    Hey Crabman!

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 9:17 pm |

    Has anyone seen what the new Tampa Bay Rays bp hats will look like?

    Here ya go

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 9:18 pm |

    Has anyone seen what the new Tampa Bay Rays bp hats will look like?

    http://mysite.verizo...

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 9:22 pm |
  • Johnny O | January 18, 2008 at 9:25 pm |

    Son of a bitch… I guess Jerry Seinfeld caught on to our evil ploy to have Eli bored out of his mind in Green Bay….

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 9:25 pm |

    Has anyone seen what the new Tampa Bay Rays bp hats will look like?

    Seriously:
    http://www.flickr.co...

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 9:29 pm |
  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 9:31 pm |

    Son of a bitch… I guess Jerry Seinfeld caught on to our evil ploy to have Eli bored out of his mind in Green Bay….

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that

    Lets hope the Packers don’t make the Giants wear wool uniforms like the assistant to the traveling secretary of the Yankees once made them do!

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 9:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”205682″]Son of a bitch… I guess Jerry Seinfeld caught on to our evil ploy to have Eli bored out of his mind in Green Bay….

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that[/quote]

    enjoy the game, ya bastid…

    i’ll be thinkin of ya, late sunday night, while you’re in the ER fer frostbite and eli’s on a big silver bird awaiting his hero’s welcome at newark

    or

    you’ll be giggin in the streets of green bay while all of ny ponders “why did pillsbury throwboy abominable throwman hefty lefty have to bet eli he could lick that pole?”

  • Bryan Redemske | January 18, 2008 at 9:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”205685″]Son of a bitch… I guess Jerry Seinfeld caught on to our evil ploy to have Eli bored out of his mind in Green Bay….

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that

    Lets hope the Packers don’t make the Giants wear wool uniforms like the assistant to the traveling secretary of the Yankees once made them do![/quote]

    They were cotton, actually.

    “Mattingly split his pants!”

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 9:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”205688″][quote comment=”205685″]Lets hope the Packers don’t make the Giants wear wool uniforms like the assistant to the traveling secretary of the Yankees once made them do![/quote]

    They were cotton, actually.

    “Mattingly split his pants!”[/quote]

    i believe there was shrinkage involved

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 9:45 pm |
  • Anil | January 18, 2008 at 9:46 pm |

    Here’s link to a story about sewing fake footballs on the jerseys – it seems it was Georgia Tech:

    http://books.google....

  • Rick | January 18, 2008 at 9:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”205300″]Uni-reference in the NY Post.

    There was an article about that tv station in Green Bay that pulled the Seinfeld re-run off the air this weekend, so Eli Manning can’t watch his favorite show……..

    “You think I’m going to take that sitting down?” Seinfeld railed yesterday.

    “I’m dispatching George Costanza to be the new traveling secretary for the Packers.”

    He was referencing a famous episode in which George – employed as the traveling secretary for the Yankees – convinces the team to switch to cotton uniforms, which shrink after they are washed, leaving the Bronx Bombers too restrained by their pinstripes to play.

    http://www.nypost.co...

    I covered that topic on comment #25 guys…..

  • Dave | January 18, 2008 at 10:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”205329″]We can’t be uber-sensitive about every symbol. Yes pink is representative of the fight against breast cancer, but this is simply a hockey team having a little fun.[/quote]

    First of all, I didn’t say they couldn’t or shouldn’t, just that the NHL marketing machine might have a word about it. They’re paid to be hypersensitive, especially given the “hockey fights cancer” campaign.

  • James Craven | January 18, 2008 at 10:05 pm |

    And for all you pro football fans in Los Angeles:

    Georgia Frontiere died tonight.

    Let the joyous news be spread/Ding Dong, The Bitch Is DEAD!

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 10:09 pm |
  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 11:25 pm |

    best hockey fight ever

    That is insane!!!The other day, someone posted a pic of someone who has tie downs on his jersey(sweater) to prevent it from being pulled over his head. Why doesn’t everybody do that!

    It’s strange to see hockey players act like this. Aren’t they all in a union together. Don’t they interact professionally off of the ice?

  • Johnny O | January 18, 2008 at 11:26 pm |

    Mills Fleet Farm is teaming up with the Green Bay Packers and are donating 30,000 hand warmers for fans when they enter the gates at Lambeau Field on Sunday.

    I still can’t believe I am lucky enough to go to this game!

    another reason to love the Pack, and their fans

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 11:28 pm |

    Lets hope the Packers don’t make the Giants wear wool uniforms like the assistant to the traveling secretary of the Yankees once made them do!

    They were cotton, actually.

    “Mattingly split his pants!”

    i believe there was shrinkage involved

    Were they in the pool?

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 11:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”205700″]It’s strange to see hockey players act like this.[/quote]

    fight?

    granted, they don’t fight as often as they used to but still…

    do you watch a lot of puck?

  • Dan W | January 18, 2008 at 11:31 pm |

    The University of Washington wore untucked jerseys in the 70’s. Can’t find any picutes though.

  • Kevin C | January 18, 2008 at 11:34 pm |

    Back in 94-95 i played on the 13-14 yr. old baseball team in my town of 7,500 people.(we fieled 2 teams other towns we played barely had one) we wore road gray with maroon numbers black cleats and maroon stirrups. other team maroon stripes, numbers and stirrups. a couple of games into the season our coach had us hand in our stirrups and gave us fake ones! we all got mad and the reason we were given was the the other teams we played could’t afford real stirrups and we had to swith as to not show up the teams that couldn’t afford them!

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 11:34 pm |

    Lets hope the Packers don’t make the Giants wear wool uniforms like the assistant to the traveling secretary of the Yankees once made them do!

    They were cotton, actually.

    “Mattingly split his pants!”

    i believe there was shrinkage involved

    Were they in the pool?

    Or did Paul O”Neill have to hit two home runs to have his favorite program shown on the road?

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 11:41 pm |

    fight?

    granted, they don’t fight as often as they used to but still…

    do you watch a lot of puck?

    I’ll be honest. I haven’t and I don’t plan to. I know fighting is an accepted part of the game, but I was raised on football, basketball, and especially baseball, where fighting and beaning has greatly diminished because of, in my opinion, free agency. The guy you bean could be your teammate next year! Loyalty to a jersey isn’t what it used to be! Remember what Paul brought up a few weeks ago: If all of the members of the Yanks and Mets were swapped for each other overnight, Paul and the rest of the true Mets fans
    would still root for the amazin’s.

  • MPowers1634 | January 18, 2008 at 11:44 pm |

    It’s strange to see hockey players act like this. Aren’t they all in a union together. Don’t they interact professionally off of the ice?

    Let me restate this: It’s strange to see professional athletes, grown men, subject to the rules and laws of civilized society, act this way!

  • LI Phil | January 18, 2008 at 11:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”205709″]It’s strange to see hockey players act like this. Aren’t they all in a union together. Don’t they interact professionally off of the ice?

    Let me restate this: It’s strange to see professional athletes, grown men, subject to the rules and laws of civilized society, act this way![/quote]

    there’s penalties for fighting

  • Kevin C | January 18, 2008 at 11:59 pm |

    Accepted? fighting is penalized. If u get in more than 2 fights your kicked out. If you start a fight with an unwilling participant you get an extra 2 for instagating. If you’re the third man in u get kicked out of the game. The only bench clearing brawls u see in the major sports is MLB and NBA. And hockey players are grown men after a playoff series killing each other they line up and shake eachothers hands.

  • LI Phil | January 19, 2008 at 12:04 am |

    and there’s no off ice shenanigans in the nhl, unlike the other major sports…no shootings, pot busts, makin it rain, steroids

    well almost

  • MPowers1634 | January 19, 2008 at 12:08 am |

    there’s penalties for fighting

    Accepted? fighting is penalized. If u get in more than 2 fights your kicked out. If you start a fight with an unwilling participant you get an extra 2 for instagating. If you’re the third man in u get kicked out of the game. The only bench clearing brawls u see in the major sports is MLB and NBA. And hockey players are grown men after a playoff series killing each other they line up and shake eachothers hands.

    Both of your points are more than valid!

    Call me ignorant, or a very infrequent observer of the game. From what I see on Sports Center is a sport where fighting is understood to be part of that sport, whether it is penalized or not. Brawls do occur in the other sports, however they don’t seem to occur nearly as often as in Hockey. Statistics might prove me wrong, and from reading the hockey posts on this board I can assure you that there are much, much more knowledgable observers than myself that can and will prove me wrong, but it is a perception.

  • Kevin C | January 19, 2008 at 12:16 am |

    There r games that turn into one big fight but the last real bench clearing brawl might of been in the mid 90’s. So the question is how does hockey change this perception of the casual fan? For one the media at some point it became popular to dump on hockey and almost all of the media joined the band wagon. Why can’t the positive be reported? It’s a great game! U don”t need 10 goals a game u need good chances hitting and excitement. I’ve been to plenty of 2-1 games that were great.

  • MPowers1634 | January 19, 2008 at 12:27 am |

    [quote comment=”205719″]There r games that turn into one big fight but the last real bench clearing brawl might of been in the mid 90’s. So the question is how does hockey change this perception of the casual fan? For one the media at some point it became popular to dump on hockey and almost all of the media joined the band wagon. Why can’t the positive be reported? It’s a great game! U don”t need 10 goals a game u need good chances hitting and excitement. I’ve been to plenty of 2-1 games that were great.[/quote]

    In that sense, the same traits that make soccer great to watch or the defensive beauty of a pitcher’s duel applies to hockey or any sport for that matter.

    I do agree concerning the media though! SC or any highlight show has conditioned me to perceive hockey as providing a stage for goons like Ty Domi or Chris Simon. The 2-1 game isn’t sexy, nor is Don Cherry, to the less-tha-casual fan. Gretzky scoring 100 points, Messier making guarantees, the genius and grace of Sidney Crosby, the Winter Classic, and shootouts are sexy. However, the media doesn”t focus on those aspects.

  • LI Phil | January 19, 2008 at 12:31 am |

    [quote]The 2-1 game isn’t sexy, nor is Don Cherry[/quote]

    grapes rocks

    but he aint sexy

  • Kevin C | January 19, 2008 at 12:41 am |

    Well why does the defensive battle in football get good attention?(85 bears 00 Ravens) The no hitter in baseball. The Pistons a couple of years ago. Defense in hockey is looked down on. One of the best games I ever attended was Buffalo at New Jersey in 97. The flow was great and scoring chances were on every shot; but broduer and hasek stood on thier heads!0-0 tie. it was like a pitchers duel. An all star team couldn’t beat these guys. if it were baseball; it would be the greatest game ever played. in hockey it was a poster for what was wrong with the game.

  • LI Phil | January 19, 2008 at 12:48 am |

    [quote comment=”205723″]Well why does the defensive battle in football get good attention?(85 bears 00 Ravens) The no hitter in baseball. The Pistons a couple of years ago. Defense in hockey is looked down on. One of the best games I ever attended was Buffalo at New Jersey in 97. The flow was great and scoring chances were on every shot; but broduer and hasek stood on thier heads!0-0 tie. it was like a pitchers duel. An all star team couldn’t beat these guys. if it were baseball; it would be the greatest game ever played. in hockey it was a poster for what was wrong with the game.[/quote]

    because americans have the attention spans of two year olds…which is why footy will never catch on…think joe six-pack will sit through a crisp nil-nil game?

    and all the changes in every sport ALWAYS favor offense…even puck…what, we can’t have a freakin tie anymore? (although, i do like teh shootout)

    no offense in baseball…era of 1.12? no problem…we’ll just lower the mound bring in the fences and juice the players ball

    football…just watch some old games…think there’s holding NOW?

  • Kevin C | January 19, 2008 at 1:04 am |

    All I can say is if u r a critic of hockey grab a friend get a couple of tix and go see your local team. Watch the coaches on the bench, watch the players jawing at eatchother behind the play. Then watch for them to battle eachother on their next shift. Listen to the crowd ask questions if u don’t know people will answer you. Go once and you’re hooked. Hey 5yrs ago my girl could care less know she loves it. Oh and some teams have beautiful unis mon. bos. etc.

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | January 19, 2008 at 2:32 am |

    [quote comment=”205700″]best hockey fight ever

    That is insane!!!The other day, someone posted a pic of someone who has tie downs on his jersey(sweater) to prevent it from being pulled over his head. Why doesn’t everybody do that!

    It’s strange to see hockey players act like this. Aren’t they all in a union together. Don’t they interact professionally off of the ice?[/quote]

    First and foremost, hockey is a very passionate game. Players are like siblings. You get in arguments and get in fights, but a couple weeks later you have beers together and laugh about the incident.

    Secondly, the NHL mandates that all sweaters be tied down with the straps. If you get in a fight and are not turned down, they give you a misconduct.

    The reason for this rule is that it is actually an advantage to have your jersey off. With no jersey for the other guy to hold onto, he had no way of tying you up and defending himself from your punches. The untied jersey can also be used to hold over the opponents head, which is quite dangerous.

    Last time I checked, no one left their seat to grab a beer while a fight was going on, so I don’t know why people have such an issue with it.

  • Pete (UK) | January 19, 2008 at 2:36 am |

    Re: the Arsenal “Gunners” tail print.

    Yes, they used that for a season after they realised that people were removing the last three letters of Arsenal to provide buttock labelling – in Britain it ‘s still Arse, not Ass…

  • Ben E | January 19, 2008 at 7:32 am |

    Another crazy ass outfit worn by Tamira Paszek…


  • Ben E | January 19, 2008 at 7:33 am |
  • James Craven | January 19, 2008 at 10:00 am |

    Yo, Ben. Same outfit as before.

  • S.W.P. | January 19, 2008 at 11:55 am |

    [quote]After the Bills practiced on Saturday, Marv walked out from the tunnel at, then, Rich Stadium and looked at the “recruits” some shoveling snow in nothing more than a sweatshirt, not because they were trying to be fashionable, but because they simply had nothing more to wear.

    Seeing this, Coach Levy quickly went into the Bills locker room and came out with all the coats, hats, and gloves he could carry and distributed them to those needing warmer clothing.[/quote]

    link

  • Al | January 19, 2008 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”205685″]Son of a bitch… I guess Jerry Seinfeld caught on to our evil ploy to have Eli bored out of his mind in Green Bay….

    [/quote]

    I guess they don’t have DVDs in Wisconsin?

  • Ben E | January 20, 2008 at 1:08 am |

    [quote comment=”205831″]Yo, Ben. Same outfit as before.[/quote]

    Nope. The one that PL posted didn’t have the crossed part. If someone else posted the same ones I did, sorry I didn’t have time to check all of the other posts this morning at work.

  • philly Dude | January 21, 2008 at 12:52 pm |

    http://www.viewimage...

    Link to Dawkins photo

  • Bill | January 23, 2008 at 11:24 am |

    Re: teams with uniform jerseys designed to be worn outside the pants, I also remember Jim Valvano’s Iona College team in the late 70s (nationally ranked, with Jeff Ruland, right before Valvano left for NC State)