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Family Jewels

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A few Sundays ago, while the rest of you were watching football, Scott M.X. Turner and I went over to reader Steve Flack‘s house — or, rather, to the building next door to his house, which his father, John Flack, has turned into a de facto museum for his amazing collection of baseball artifacts — mostly books (like, lots of books), but also bobbleheads and other treats.

There were tons of great things to look at (plus some great ironies — what are the odds, for example, that these two players would end up collaborating on this book?), but of course I focused on uni-related details. While flipping through assorted books, I encountered two such tidbits:

• I’d known that Roger Craig of the ’62 Mets changed his uniform number from 38 to 13 when he was mired in a 13-game losing streak, but I’d never seen any visual documentation of it until I came across this early example of uni-watching.

• While paging through this, I stumbled upon this.

Big thanks to Steve and John for their hospitality. If you want to see more of their museum, Steve has assembled over 250 photos into a Flickr gallery here.

Steve isn’t the only reader who recently shared some uni-related treasures from his family’s collection. There’s also Jay Danbom, who sent me the following communiqué:

My grandfather, Larry Danbom, played fullback for Notre Dame from 1933-36. He was from Calumet, Michigan, on the Upper Peninsula, where his boyhood idol and neighbor was none other than George Gipp (that’s basically why he went to Notre Dame over Michigan).

At Notre Dame he played for Hunk Anderson and Elmer Layden (one of the Four Horsemen), and he played in the 1935 “Game of the Century” against Ohio State. He played in the All-Star Game that year (with Sammy Baugh, I believe), which was the first team of college all-stars to beat the NFL champs, as they beat the Packers, 6-0. We still have his all-star uniform — it’s amazing what they played in back then. The jerseys were all long-sleeved and made of polyester [more likely durene — PL] and is a little shiny, whereas his Notre Dame jersey was 100% wool (can you imagine playing USC in L.A. in early September in those?). The elbows are reinforced, and the socks are stirrups.

The pants are satin, for that shiny night-game look. The knee pads in the pants feel like they’re padded with wool. But by far the most interesting thing about the whole uniform are the pant stripes on the back — check it out!

Here are some pics of the pants and socks on me ((the jersey quit fitting me in sixth grade). My god, my ass is big. Well, I did play offensive line in college.

Since Notre Dame didn’t play in bowl games back then, making the all-star team was the only way to play in the “post-season,” so they also gave out sweaters and blankets (though he was an All-American in the 1936 football season, the game was played in ’37, which accounts for the two different years). The sweater is personalized on the inner hem.

We also have my grandfather’s Notre Dame letter sweater. The two sleeve stripes indicate the two letters he earned playing football, but his letter sweater for gymnastics is nowhere to be found.

As for his beautiful Notre Dame Uniform, we framed it for his 80th birthday. It was displayed in his living room, but then when he passed away my aunt took it and threw it under her bed. I can’t tell you how pissed I am about that! That beauty needs to be displayed. … If I can pull up any pics of his Notre Dame uniform, I’ll email ’em, as well as pictures of him playing.

My grandfather was supposedly drafted by the Lions four years later in the first NFL draft. We’ve never found documentation of this, but he said they begged him to play for them. He was an extremely humble man and could’ve cared less about his accolades on the field, so I’m inclined to believe him. He and I were pretty close. … I remember one of the last times I saw him, he couldn’t remember what he had eaten for breakfast, but recalled a game against USC nearly play-for-play.

Wowzers — incredible stuff. Can’t even begin to tell you how special it is for people to share their family histories like this. Thanks so much.

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Uni Watch News Ticker: Bizarre scene at UMich, where new football coach Rich Rodriguez wore a hockey jersey while introducing his staff the other day (with thanks to Tom Konecny). … We’ve talked before about Ohio State’s huge TV numbers. What I didn’t realize until yesterday, however, is that their sleeve numbers were black back in the 1960sweird (with thanks to Kevin Bresnahan). … Remember this? Maybe it was inspired by this 1937 photo of the Philadelphia A’s apparently experimenting with a hard hat-styled batting helmet (great find by Jared Wheeler). … West Ham United’s Freddie Ljungberg had to wear a nameless, numberless blood jersey the other day (with thanks to Cole Ollinger) … Uni Watch design director Scott M. X. Turner is currently vacationing in New Mexico. Judging by this attachment he sent me yesterday, I assume he spent the day at Roswell. … For years I’ve been using this shot as my go-to photo when referring to Marquette’s untucked jerseys. Didn’t realize that much better pics had been featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated, as seen here and here. … Great contribution from photographer Jason Palmer, who got a shot of a Giants staffer checking the team’s radio-equipped helmets. Invasion of the green dots! … Better view here of Cullen Jenkins ripping off Matt Hasselbeck’s muff (with thanks to Jeff Ash). … “There are some great little uni details in this pic,” writes Neal Shaffer. “It’s the script ‘Cale’ on the one helmet that gets me the most, but the stripes, the old-school plain white helmet, and particularly the Hawaiian Tropic logo on the guy on the left are also pretty cool.” … Todd Davis reports that the Dakota Wizards of the D-League are featuring some intense negative arching. … “This could very well be the most bizarre jersey ever to grace a professional hockey team,” writes Kelly Phillips. “It’s from the DEL (German Ice Hockey League) and was used in a charity game to raise money for building schools in Germany through UNICEF. They say, ‘We’re helping the kids! Schools for Africa.’ They were worn in the 2001/2002 season by the Sinupret Ice Tigers.”

 

229 comments to Family Jewels

  • Scott Jenkins | January 15, 2008 at 8:34 am |

    As a Florida State alum, I’m glad we didn’t go after Rodriguez with that hockey uniform – terrible.

  • Stuby | January 15, 2008 at 8:40 am |

    Going solely by the mustache and lower face construction, I’m guessing that’s Bobby Allison involved in the tussle with Cale Yarborough. I love that he’s trying to pull off Cale’s Converse racing sneaker.

  • ML | January 15, 2008 at 8:48 am |

    Look how dark those Carolina unis were (second SI cover link)!

  • teamcinnamon | January 15, 2008 at 8:48 am |

    I’m no fan of Notre Dame, but that letter sweater is fantastical.

  • Pete | January 15, 2008 at 8:50 am |

    Anyone else struck by how much darker the blue was on North Carolina’s uniform in 1977 than it is today?

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 15, 2008 at 8:52 am |

    [quote comment=”203149″]Anyone else struck by how much darker the blue was on North Carolina’s uniform in 1977 than it is today?[/quote]

    Ahem … It looks like Kentucky Blue to me. :)

  • CraigD | January 15, 2008 at 8:53 am |

    What are the green dots on the back of the Giants’ helmets?………(pause)……I’M KIDDING!!!!

  • Brian from Short Island | January 15, 2008 at 8:55 am |

    ND still uses that same monogram. I’ve always found those blue lines (that show how the N and D interlock) to be a bit funny. But that’s incredible stuff there.

  • Mike Engle | January 15, 2008 at 8:57 am |

    The Distant Replays prize…is it a gift certificate in the mail or will Mr. Lukas email the winner the code? (Save on shipping that way. Not that I’m going to win…)

  • coach | January 15, 2008 at 9:02 am |

    Did anyone else notice the helmet numbers on the Michigan helmet that was in the photo highlighting the black Ohio St. sleeve numbers? There is a white 55 right at the tip of the yellow wing.

  • Shaftman | January 15, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    [quote comment=”203159″]The Distant Replays prize…is it a gift certificate in the mail or will Mr. Lukas email the winner the code? (Save on shipping that way. Not that I’m going to win…)[/quote]

    You can win if you enter multiple times every few days. (wink wink, nudge nudge)
    [/sarcasm]

  • Paul Lukas | January 15, 2008 at 9:03 am |

    [quote comment=”203159″]The Distant Replays prize…is it a gift certificate in the mail or will Mr. Lukas email the winner the code?[/quote]

    The latter.

  • Minna H. | January 15, 2008 at 9:12 am |

    Steve F., I want to live in your baseball library. Or rather, your father’s baseball library. That thing is amazing!

    As for the OSU’s eye-wrenching numbers, it kills me to say it, but they look better in white than in black.

    Scott M.X.T., those logos are FANNNNNNtastic!

  • Stephen | January 15, 2008 at 9:15 am |

    In the Cale Yarborough pic, he is kicking Bobby Allison, and Donnie Allison is trying to smack him with the helmet (the Hawaiian Tropic helmet). That is a classic NASCAR image from the 1979 Daytona 500. It was the first race that was televised in its entirety, and the fight helped boost the interest in NASCAR.

    ~E~

  • Jason Axel | January 15, 2008 at 9:17 am |

    [quote comment=”203163″]Did anyone else notice the helmet numbers on the Michigan helmet that was in the photo highlighting the black Ohio St. sleeve numbers? There is a white 55 right at the tip of the yellow wing.[/quote]

    looks yellow to me…

  • LI Phil | January 15, 2008 at 9:18 am |

    adidas has introduced a most awful neon for the aussie open

  • mg12 | January 15, 2008 at 9:19 am |

    Those Marquette untucked jerseys are strange enough to see, but even stranger is the pic against North Carolina. Tarheels fans may cringe to hear this, but the blue of their jerseys makes them look more like Duke than North Carolina.

    http://i.cnn.net/si/...

    I never realized that the Tarheels ever wore that shade of blue. I am so used to seeing them in the powder blue. What’s the history there?

  • Joe H | January 15, 2008 at 9:20 am |

    When I saw this pic from that collection I immediately thought of this pic, which I took during my Camden Yards and Sports Legends Tour. Unfortunately I didn’t photograph the explanation card. By looking at the football sweater I’m guessing that this was the same sort of thing but for baseball.

  • Mike Engle | January 15, 2008 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment=”203181″]adidas has introduced a most awful neon for the aussie open[/quote]
    Trying to be diplomatic…wow, that’s avant-garde. Reminds me of these guys.

  • Dan King | January 15, 2008 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment=”203181″]adidas has introduced a most awful neon for the aussie open[/quote]
    actually they introduced it with Chelsea in the English Premier League and they were only copying Nike after what they did to Barcelona last year. (sorry no pics of the bright orange)

  • Kevin Mericle | January 15, 2008 at 9:27 am |

    Two of those Giants’ helmets have #10 on them, and possibly the one the guy is holding too. Typically how many helmets does the starting QB have available during the game?

  • Taha | January 15, 2008 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”203163″]Did anyone else notice the helmet numbers on the Michigan helmet that was in the photo highlighting the black Ohio St. sleeve numbers? There is a white 55 right at the tip of the yellow wing.[/quote]
    i noticed that too. I was going to comment, but you beat me to the punch. I’ve followed Michigan football as long as I can remember (late 70’s onward), and I’ve never seen Michigan do that before. that photo was from the 1960’s, but I’ve seen plenty of old footage and photos but have never seen anything with Michigan having numbers on their helmets. Perhaps it was just a one or two-year thing. are there any more veteran members who can give us younger Wolverines some insight?

  • LI Phil | January 15, 2008 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”203184″][quote comment=”203181″]adidas has introduced a most awful neon for the aussie open[/quote]
    Trying to be diplomatic…wow, that’s avant-garde. Reminds me of these guys.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”203185″][quote comment=”203181″]adidas has introduced a most awful neon for the aussie open[/quote]
    actually they introduced it with Chelsea in the English Premier League and they were only copying Nike after what they did to Barcelona last year. (sorry no pics of the bright orange)[/quote]

    heh…i knew it existed in footy…just never thought (never say never, phil) it would grace the courts

    at least we won’t see it at wimbledon

  • ML | January 15, 2008 at 9:29 am |

    Great contribution from photographer Jason Palmer, who got a shot of a Giants staffer checking the team’s radio-equipped helmets.

    That’s a really gorgeous photograph… props to Palmer.

    && I’m no Giants fan.

  • Taha | January 15, 2008 at 9:29 am |

    [quote comment=”203187″]Two of those Giants’ helmets have #10 on them, and possibly the one the guy is holding too. Typically how many helmets does the starting QB have available during the game?[/quote]
    at least 3. two with the green dot (and radio devices) and one without

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 9:34 am |

    adidas has introduced a most awful neon for the aussie open

    Trying to be diplomatic…wow, that’s avant-garde. Reminds me of these guys.

    adidas has introduced a most awful neon for the aussie open

    actually they introduced it with Chelsea in the English Premier League and they were only copying Nike after what they did to Barcelona last year. (sorry no pics of the bright orange)

    heh…i knew it existed in footy…just never thought (never say never, phil) it would grace the courts

    at least we won’t see it at wimbledon

    Check out these beauties that Reebok put out in conjunction with Alife Rivington, a high end sneaker boutique in NYC:

    http://www.coolhunti...

  • RaoulDuke | January 15, 2008 at 9:35 am |

    My beloved St. Louis Blues have (until recently) 3 guys named Johnson on their team. Mike Johnson (now injured for the season), Erik Johnson and Ryan Johnson. All 3 wear just plain Johnson on their backs, no first initals.

    I remember in the 80’s and 90’s the Cardinals had their share of Smiths (Ozzie, Lonnie, Bryn and Lee) but they always wore an inital before “Smith”.

    My question is, has any other team with 3 players with the same surname left off the inital for the first name?

  • Mike Engle | January 15, 2008 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment=”203191″][quote comment=”203187″]Two of those Giants’ helmets have #10 on them, and possibly the one the guy is holding too. Typically how many helmets does the starting QB have available during the game?[/quote]
    at least 3. two with the green dot (and radio devices) and one without[/quote]
    Brainstorm…rules “dictate” that if one team’s walkie-talkie set malfunctions, the other team needs to turn theirs off. Now the referees could temporarily banish the green dots. What an easy solution.

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 9:36 am |

    They are a retro version of the Reebok pumps that this Michael Chang used to wear.

    http://www.sporting-...

  • Joe | January 15, 2008 at 9:36 am |

    Seeing the Rich Rodriguez Michigan jersey reminded me of something I wanted to look into: hockey jerseys with diagonal lettering. It has to be among my favorite type of jerseys. Obviously The Rangers have done this forever and when they use to wear the 3rd jersey it disapointed me. Pittsburgh had a road jersey in the 90’s and I think Colorado has an alternate jersey that does it. I willing to bet like Michigan their are countless other schools that do it and their maybe some other NHL ones I don’t know about. Anybody have any examples?

  • Jason Axel | January 15, 2008 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”203188″][quote comment=”203163″]Did anyone else notice the helmet numbers on the Michigan helmet that was in the photo highlighting the black Ohio St. sleeve numbers? There is a white 55 right at the tip of the yellow wing.[/quote]
    i noticed that too. I was going to comment, but you beat me to the punch. I’ve followed Michigan football as long as I can remember (late 70’s onward), and I’ve never seen Michigan do that before. that photo was from the 1960’s, but I’ve seen plenty of old footage and photos but have never seen anything with Michigan having numbers on their helmets. Perhaps it was just a one or two-year thing. are there any more veteran members who can give us younger Wolverines some insight?[/quote]

    Michigan had numbers on their helmets for about 12 years, from I believe 1956-1968.

  • Jason Axel | January 15, 2008 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”203198″][quote comment=”203188″][quote comment=”203163″]Did anyone else notice the helmet numbers on the Michigan helmet that was in the photo highlighting the black Ohio St. sleeve numbers? There is a white 55 right at the tip of the yellow wing.[/quote]
    i noticed that too. I was going to comment, but you beat me to the punch. I’ve followed Michigan football as long as I can remember (late 70’s onward), and I’ve never seen Michigan do that before. that photo was from the 1960’s, but I’ve seen plenty of old footage and photos but have never seen anything with Michigan having numbers on their helmets. Perhaps it was just a one or two-year thing. are there any more veteran members who can give us younger Wolverines some insight?[/quote]

    Michigan had numbers on their helmets for about 12 years, from I believe 1956-1968.[/quote]

    I take back what I just said, a little less:

    From Michigan’s athletic website:

    “While other schools changed their look when they switched from the leather helmet, Michigan simply painted the wings and stripes on the new material. There have been a few minor changes to the design over the years. The shape of the wing has been smoothed out a bit, the stripes now extend all the way to the base of the helmet and player numbers were added to the side of the helmet during the years 1959-1968.”

    So 9 years they had numbers.

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 9:46 am |

    Did anyone else notice the helmet numbers on the Michigan helmet that was in the photo highlighting the black Ohio St. sleeve numbers? There is a white 55 right at the tip of the yellow wing.

    i noticed that too. I was going to comment, but you beat me to the punch. I’ve followed Michigan football as long as I can remember (late 70’s onward), and I’ve never seen Michigan do that before. that photo was from the 1960’s, but I’ve seen plenty of old footage and photos but have never seen anything with Michigan having numbers on their helmets. Perhaps it was just a one or two-year thing. are there any more veteran members who can give us younger Wolverines some insight?

    Michigan had numbers on their helmets for about 12 years, from I believe 1956-1968.

    I take back what I just said, a little less:

    From Michigan’s athletic website:

    “While other schools changed their look when they switched from the leather helmet, Michigan simply painted the wings and stripes on the new material. There have been a few minor changes to the design over the years. The shape of the wing has been smoothed out a bit, the stripes now extend all the way to the base of the helmet and player numbers were added to the side of the helmet during the years 1959-1968.”

    So 9 years they had numbers.

    Nice work, Jason!

    I’d be interested to know about schools like Princeton and Delaware as well. According to the Helmet project, I know Princeton has gone through various iterations, ranging to a Bengals style arches lettering to the current winged design. But when did Delaware start using the design as well and did Crisler coach there as well?

  • DZ | January 15, 2008 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”203199″][quote comment=”203198″][quote comment=”203188″][quote comment=”203163″]Did anyone else notice the helmet numbers on the Michigan helmet that was in the photo highlighting the black Ohio St. sleeve numbers? There is a white 55 right at the tip of the yellow wing.[/quote]
    i noticed that too. I was going to comment, but you beat me to the punch. I’ve followed Michigan football as long as I can remember (late 70’s onward), and I’ve never seen Michigan do that before. that photo was from the 1960’s, but I’ve seen plenty of old footage and photos but have never seen anything with Michigan having numbers on their helmets. Perhaps it was just a one or two-year thing. are there any more veteran members who can give us younger Wolverines some insight?[/quote]

    Michigan had numbers on their helmets for about 12 years, from I believe 1956-1968.[/quote]

    I take back what I just said, a little less:

    From Michigan’s athletic website:

    “While other schools changed their look when they switched from the leather helmet, Michigan simply painted the wings and stripes on the new material. There have been a few minor changes to the design over the years. The shape of the wing has been smoothed out a bit, the stripes now extend all the way to the base of the helmet and player numbers were added to the side of the helmet during the years 1959-1968.”

    So 9 years they had numbers.[/quote]

    Pictures from Helmet Hut.

  • War Damn Eagle | January 15, 2008 at 10:00 am |

    The helmets worn by the ’37 Phila. A’s look like what a batter in cricket would wear.

  • Jeremy Brahm | January 15, 2008 at 10:03 am |

    On the white Marquette photo, notice on the left side of the uniform that they have arrowheads.

  • Anthony Verna | January 15, 2008 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment=”203153″][quote comment=”203149″]Anyone else struck by how much darker the blue was on North Carolina’s uniform in 1977 than it is today?[/quote]

    Ahem … It looks like Kentucky Blue to me. :)[/quote]

    It’s certainly much, much darker than what my UNC friend was wearing on Friday. (She gets rather partial to the sky blue.)

  • joe | January 15, 2008 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”203195″][quote comment=”203191″][quote comment=”203187″]Two of those Giants’ helmets have #10 on them, and possibly the one the guy is holding too. Typically how many helmets does the starting QB have available during the game?[/quote]
    at least 3. two with the green dot (and radio devices) and one without[/quote]
    Brainstorm…rules “dictate” that if one team’s walkie-talkie set malfunctions, the other team needs to turn theirs off. Now the referees could temporarily banish the green dots. What an easy solution.[/quote]
    I believe that rules dictated that, but have since been changed.

  • Jay | January 15, 2008 at 10:05 am |

    Ohio State brought back the black TV numbers for a season in the 1990s (25th or 30th anniversary of the 1968 championship, methinks).

    Looking for pictures now.

  • TOG | January 15, 2008 at 10:06 am |

    Heads up logo creepers…this going to be a doozy…

    http://chicagobusine...

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    (Crain’s) — Best Buy Co. has signed on to be the first jersey sponsor for the Chicago Fire, a deal that could inject millions to the unprofitable soccer team.

    Team officials and representatives of Best Buy, which is based in suburban Minneapolis, are scheduled to debut the new jersey Tuesday afternoon at a Burbank Best Buy store. Details of the sponsorship are being kept under wraps until the official unveiling, a Chicago Fire spokeswoman said.

    Chicago Fire general manager John Guppy has said he was looking for a multi-year $2.5-million deal for the front of the jersey. If the team landed that amount, it would help offset its three-year contract with Cuauhtémoc Blanco, a Mexican soccer star who has been a winning addition for the team in terms of its record and financial haul. Mr. Blanco’s contract guarantees him $2.67 million in the first year.

  • Nate F | January 15, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    University of Wisconsin uses diagonal lettering on their sweaters. Also, North Dakota used to wear a white jersey with SIOUX in the diagonal pattern on the front. Sorry, no pics.

  • CV | January 15, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”203197″]Seeing the Rich Rodriguez Michigan jersey reminded me of something I wanted to look into: hockey jerseys with diagonal lettering. It has to be among my favorite type of jerseys. Obviously The Rangers have done this forever and when they use to wear the 3rd jersey it disapointed me. Pittsburgh had a road jersey in the 90’s and I think Colorado has an alternate jersey that does it. I willing to bet like Michigan their are countless other schools that do it and their maybe some other NHL ones I don’t know about. Anybody have any examples?[/quote]

    University of Wisconsin has diagonal lettering on their hockey jerseys.

    http://www.redwear.c...

  • Daniel | January 15, 2008 at 10:13 am |

    The SI covers of Marquette are sweet, but what struck me more than the untuckedness, or the NC navy blues, was the absolutely awesome pairing — by the MU player contesting Benson’s shot — of pale yellow socks and what look to be powder-blue addidas shoes. That is gorgeous.

  • Jason Axel | January 15, 2008 at 10:14 am |

    [quote comment=”203201″]Did anyone else notice the helmet numbers on the Michigan helmet that was in the photo highlighting the black Ohio St. sleeve numbers? There is a white 55 right at the tip of the yellow wing.

    i noticed that too. I was going to comment, but you beat me to the punch. I’ve followed Michigan football as long as I can remember (late 70’s onward), and I’ve never seen Michigan do that before. that photo was from the 1960’s, but I’ve seen plenty of old footage and photos but have never seen anything with Michigan having numbers on their helmets. Perhaps it was just a one or two-year thing. are there any more veteran members who can give us younger Wolverines some insight?

    Michigan had numbers on their helmets for about 12 years, from I believe 1956-1968.

    I take back what I just said, a little less:

    From Michigan’s athletic website:

    “While other schools changed their look when they switched from the leather helmet, Michigan simply painted the wings and stripes on the new material. There have been a few minor changes to the design over the years. The shape of the wing has been smoothed out a bit, the stripes now extend all the way to the base of the helmet and player numbers were added to the side of the helmet during the years 1959-1968.”

    So 9 years they had numbers.

    Nice work, Jason!

    I’d be interested to know about schools like Princeton and Delaware as well. According to the Helmet project, I know Princeton has gone through various iterations, ranging to a Bengals style arches lettering to the current winged design. But when did Delaware start using the design as well and did Crisler coach there as well?[/quote]

    Delware and Princeton both have winged helmets. Division 2 schools Shaw and Southwest Baptist do as well, as does D3 schools Grove City College, Middlebury College, Nichols College and Gustavus Adolphus College.

  • LI Phil | January 15, 2008 at 10:15 am |

    did it ever strike anyone else that chicago fire might not be such a great name? (and yes, it prolly is named for the fire dept. or something lame…im not doing the research on it now)

    kind of how this or this might bring back some…oh…not good memories

  • Rick | January 15, 2008 at 10:18 am |

    Interesting fact about Tom Seaver on my Mets Fact A Day calendar.

    Tom Seaver started his career with the Mets because of a commissioner’s ruling that the Atlanta Braves, who originally drafted Seaver, signed him illegally.

    I guess I’m too young to remember that…..

  • Nate F | January 15, 2008 at 10:22 am |

    Pictures here of a replica of the white 1959 UND Fighting Sioux jersey I referenced above, as well as a replica of a green sweater from 1958 with the diagonal print. Also, although not the type you’re looking for, further down the page is an Alaska jersey with the lettering in a diagonal pattern (similar to what the Captials wore when they started wearing the eagle sweater).

  • Anthony Verna | January 15, 2008 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”203210″][quote comment=”203153″][quote comment=”203149″]Anyone else struck by how much darker the blue was on North Carolina’s uniform in 1977 than it is today?[/quote]

    Ahem … It looks like Kentucky Blue to me. :)[/quote]

    It’s certainly much, much darker than what my UNC friend was wearing on Friday. (She gets rather partial to the sky blue.)[/quote]

    I’ve got an answer.

    Colors
    The University’s colors are Carolina Blue and White. While there is a range of opinion as to what exactly is the true shade of Carolina Blue, from a licensing standpoint, it is Pantone 278. Three other Pantone colors are used in the logos as well:
    Tar Heels Deep Blue: Pantone 282
    Tar Heels Silver: Pantone 877
    Tar Heels Metallic Silver: Pantone 429

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  • Will | January 15, 2008 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”203220″]did it ever strike anyone else that chicago fire might not be such a great name? (and yes, it prolly is named for the fire dept. or something lame…im not doing the research on it now)

    kind of how this or this might bring back some…oh…not good memories[/quote]
    Actually, the club was named after THE Fire, and was officially founded on October 8, so it would be on the anniversary of the Great Chicago Fire.

    The way I understand it (I am not a native Chicagoan, so I wouldn’t know for sure), the way Chicago was able to rise up from the ashes of the Great Chicago Fire to become one of the greatest cities in America is seen as a sense of pride for those city-dwellers, hence the name for the soccer team. Also, from a purely economic side, the Great Chicago Fire actually helped the city industrialize, although at too a great cost, by clearing out sub-standard buildings.

    Fun fact: The Peshtigo Fire killed more people and caused more damage than the Chicago Fire, but didn’t get the press, as it happened on the same day.

  • Jet | January 15, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”203197″] hockey jerseys with diagonal lettering. It has to be among my favorite type of jerseys. Obviously The Rangers have done this forever and when they use to wear the 3rd jersey it disapointed me. Pittsburgh had a road jersey in the 90’s and I think Colorado has an alternate jersey that does it. Anybody have any examples?[/quote]

    The Penguins one in the 90’s was based on their original 1967 design which was the powder blue/dark blue color scheme, shown here:

    I agree, it’s a great look for a hockey jersey!

    -Jet

  • kings33 | January 15, 2008 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”203221″]Interesting fact about Tom Seaver on my Mets Fact A Day calendar.

    Tom Seaver started his career with the Mets because of a commissioner’s ruling that the Atlanta Braves, who originally drafted Seaver, signed him illegally.

    I guess I’m too young to remember that…..[/quote]

    He was actually originally drafted by the Dodgers, who passed on him before the Braves signed him the following year

  • Jet | January 15, 2008 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”203197″] hockey jerseys with diagonal lettering. It has to be among my favorite type of jerseys. Obviously The Rangers have done this forever and when they use to wear the 3rd jersey it disapointed me. Pittsburgh had a road jersey in the 90’s and I think Colorado has an alternate jersey that does it. Anybody have any examples?[/quote]

    The Penguins one in the 90’s was based on their original 1967 design which was the powder blue/dark blue color scheme. I agree, it’s a great look for a hockey jersey

    -Jet

  • Jet | January 15, 2008 at 10:47 am |

    By the way Paul, today’s edition of UniWatch is FANTASTIC!!

    -Jet

  • The Ol Goaler | January 15, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”203209″]On the white Marquette photo, notice on the left side of the uniform that they have arrowheads.[/quote]
    Because at the time, they were the Marquette “Warriors” (Abusive and Demeaning Alert!)… since the school was named for Father Jacques Marquette, a Jesuit priest who was trying to convert Native Americans to Christianity, I remain puzzled as to just how “Warriors” was “demeaning”… but then, I’m not a pencil-necked geek! [/sarcasm]

  • KT | January 15, 2008 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”203220″]did it ever strike anyone else that chicago fire might not be such a great name? [/quote]

    The official word on the team name, from the team itself:

    “The Chicago Fire was selected over other team name contenders such as the Blues, Rhythm and Wind because of the passion the name evokes. ‘The name Fire has such a sense of history in Chicago. We wanted a name that was a reflection of this great city, and everyone in this city knows about the Great Chicago Fire of 1871,’ said Fire GM Peter Wilt. ‘In addition, the rebuilding process that the city went through has become a great source of pride for Chicagoans.’

    Trust me – it’s not looked at as a bad thing. But then, I’m kinda biased.

  • Matt D. | January 15, 2008 at 10:55 am |

    It’s not clear in the second SI cover, but did Marquette wear a mismatched jersey/short combination? (Sorry, but I was only 4 when they won the championship and can’t remember) The shorts look gold in that picture. It’s a look I personally hate, though thankfully only Oakland U. and the Wizards use it.
    I loved the cover of the 1969 football preview. They almost got the AFL right (The Chiefs beat the Raiders in the AFL championship game), but did they ever screw up the NFL! The Bears?!?! They one 1 game!

  • Shane | January 15, 2008 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”203197″]Seeing the Rich Rodriguez Michigan jersey reminded me of something I wanted to look into: hockey jerseys with diagonal lettering. It has to be among my favorite type of jerseys. Obviously The Rangers have done this forever and when they use to wear the 3rd jersey it disapointed me. Pittsburgh had a road jersey in the 90’s and I think Colorado has an alternate jersey that does it. I willing to bet like Michigan their are countless other schools that do it and their maybe some other NHL ones I don’t know about. Anybody have any examples?[/quote]

    A few months back, someone was posting pictures of their school’s hockey team, and they had diagonal lettering. It’s a really nice look. Colorado doesn’t do it anymore, though.

  • JoeS | January 15, 2008 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”203197″]hockey jerseys with diagonal lettering.[/quote]
    Northern Michigan University (in my hometown and one of my alma maters!) has used diagonal lettering on it’s hockey uniforms for as long as I can remember (so at least the mid 80s). I’m not sure when they have used the different jerseys, but they also have one that has a diagonal “Wildcats” with a horizontal “NMU” below it. You can see it on their CCHA team page. Yet another I’ve seen is the Wildcat logo jersey seen here. I cannot seem to find a pic of their away jersey, which I think is the same thing, but green with a gold yoke/sleeve stripe (whatever you call that thing).
    With the reference to Calumet, MI and now NMU in Marquette, MI, I’m glad to see the Yoopers (residents of the Upper Peninsula of MI) getting a strong representation today!

  • Joe H | January 15, 2008 at 11:03 am |

    New Baseball Memorial Found

    Found this photo.

    Facts I know are the photo is dated on the back 5/18/56 and is the Orioles Bob Adams. Check out the thick arm band and how it covers the bird patch.

    Catcher Tom Gastall passed away in 56, but he didn’t die until 9/20/56. Any other thoughts?

  • teamcinnamon | January 15, 2008 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”203213″]Heads up logo creepers…this going to be a doozy…

    http://chicagobusine...

    Chicago Fire Gets Jersey Sponsor

    (Crain’s) — Best Buy Co. has signed on to be the first jersey sponsor for the Chicago Fire, a deal that could inject millions to the unprofitable soccer team.

    Team officials and representatives of Best Buy, which is based in suburban Minneapolis, are scheduled to debut the new jersey Tuesday afternoon at a Burbank Best Buy store. Details of the sponsorship are being kept under wraps until the official unveiling, a Chicago Fire spokeswoman said.

    Chicago Fire general manager John Guppy has said he was looking for a multi-year $2.5-million deal for the front of the jersey. If the team landed that amount, it would help offset its three-year contract with Cuauhtémoc Blanco, a Mexican soccer star who has been a winning addition for the team in terms of its record and financial haul. Mr. Blanco’s contract guarantees him $2.67 million in the first year.[/quote]

    If this is how MLS has to roll, so be it.

  • Dan King | January 15, 2008 at 11:07 am |

    Thanks to the guys for sharing their family stories. I liked the ND sweater, mostly because i’m a big ND fan. It reminds me of something I really like: stories about how you became a fan of your team (and not the I grew up there, unless you don’t live there anymore). Like my Dad became a ND fan because of his dad even though they were from Mass. and they actually went to the Rudy game. My grandfather said to my dad, “Who the hell is Rudy and why are we chanting for him?”

  • B. Hill | January 15, 2008 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”203216″][quote comment=”203197″]Seeing the Rich Rodriguez Michigan jersey reminded me of something I wanted to look into: hockey jerseys with diagonal lettering. It has to be among my favorite type of jerseys. Obviously The Rangers have done this forever and when they use to wear the 3rd jersey it disapointed me. Pittsburgh had a road jersey in the 90’s and I think Colorado has an alternate jersey that does it. I willing to bet like Michigan their are countless other schools that do it and their maybe some other NHL ones I don’t know about. Anybody have any examples?[/quote]

    University of Wisconsin has diagonal lettering on their hockey jerseys.

    http://www.redwear.c...
    The Chicago Wolves use one for their alternate jersey: http://chicagowolves...

  • Duckstyle187 | January 15, 2008 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”203245″][quote comment=”203213″]Heads up logo creepers…this going to be a doozy…

    http://chicagobusine...

    Chicago Fire Gets Jersey Sponsor

    (Crain’s) — Best Buy Co. has signed on to be the first jersey sponsor for the Chicago Fire, a deal that could inject millions to the unprofitable soccer team.

    Team officials and representatives of Best Buy, which is based in suburban Minneapolis, are scheduled to debut the new jersey Tuesday afternoon at a Burbank Best Buy store. Details of the sponsorship are being kept under wraps until the official unveiling, a Chicago Fire spokeswoman said.

    Chicago Fire general manager John Guppy has said he was looking for a multi-year $2.5-million deal for the front of the jersey. If the team landed that amount, it would help offset its three-year contract with Cuauhtémoc Blanco, a Mexican soccer star who has been a winning addition for the team in terms of its record and financial haul. Mr. Blanco’s contract guarantees him $2.67 million in the first year.[/quote]

    If this is how MLS has to roll, so be it.[/quote]

    Thank God. Seriously. I love soccer, and without jersey sponsors they(MLS teams) really can’t compete for players like the bigger clubs, overseas, that embraced it years ago. Hypocritical as it may be, I might have a heart attack when the day comes that an NBA, NFL or MLB teams does this, but I welcome it to the MLS. More money=better players=better product=more fans=more money….so on and so forth. And hey, at least the sponsor is a business I’ve heard of unlike XanGo or Comex.

  • JoeS | January 15, 2008 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”203246″]Thanks to the guys for sharing their family stories. I liked the ND sweater, mostly because i’m a big ND fan. It reminds me of something I really like: stories about how you became a fan of your team (and not the I grew up there, unless you don’t live there anymore). Like my Dad became a ND fan because of his dad even though they were from Mass. and they actually went to the Rudy game. My grandfather said to my dad, “Who the hell is Rudy and why are we chanting for him?”[/quote]
    That’s a great story! “Who the hell is Rudy…” Haha. As I mentioned before, I’m from the U.P. of MI and people wonder why I am a fan of the Packers and not the Lions. I grew up watching the Pack with my Dad and he tells me the reason there are so many fans in the U.P. is because in the 60s the only games you could get up there were Green Bay games. It also doesn’t help that you have to drive 8 hours and cross a 5-mile long bridge to get to Detroit whereas Green Bay is a quick 3 hours away (depending on where you live of course). This is a case where geography has shaped the fans of the area.

  • Sarah | January 15, 2008 at 11:30 am |

    Before Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith cam out in theaters, George Lucas sponsored a F1 race car. Check out the awesome design of the pit crew helmets here.

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    Anyone else struck by how much darker the blue was on North Carolina’s uniform in 1977 than it is today?

    Ahem … It looks like Kentucky Blue to me. :)

    It’s certainly much, much darker than what my UNC friend was wearing on Friday. (She gets rather partial to the sky blue.)

    I’ve got an answer.

    Colors
    The University’s colors are Carolina Blue and White. While there is a range of opinion as to what exactly is the true shade of Carolina Blue, from a licensing standpoint, it is Pantone 278. Three other Pantone colors are used in the logos as well:
    Tar Heels Deep Blue: Pantone 282
    Tar Heels Silver: Pantone 877
    Tar Heels Metallic Silver: Pantone 429

    From http://www.licensing

    Where do the differing Pantones come from? My only frame of reference comes from my father-in-law’s hardware store, where they mix Benjamin Moore paints. Like the paint swatches that you can get in order to sampple different hues, where can we find an overall palette of associated colors, similar to those of Carolina.

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 11:40 am |

    Anyone else struck by how much darker the blue was on North Carolina’s uniform in 1977 than it is today?

    Ahem … It looks like Kentucky Blue to me. :)

    It’s certainly much, much darker than what my UNC friend was wearing on Friday. (She gets rather partial to the sky blue.)

    I’ve got an answer.

    Colors
    The University’s colors are Carolina Blue and White. While there is a range of opinion as to what exactly is the true shade of Carolina Blue, from a licensing standpoint, it is Pantone 278. Three other Pantone colors are used in the logos as well:
    Tar Heels Deep Blue: Pantone 282
    Tar Heels Silver: Pantone 877
    Tar Heels Metallic Silver: Pantone 429

    From http://www.licensing

    Where do the differing Pantones come from? My only frame of reference comes from my father-in-law’s hardware store, where they mix Benjamin Moore paints. Like the paint swatches that you can get in order to sampple different hues, where can we find an overall palette of associated colors, similar to those of Carolina.

  • Mike | January 15, 2008 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”203255″]Before Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith cam out in theaters, George Lucas sponsored a F1 race car. Check out the awesome design of the pit crew helmets here.[/quote]

    Fantastic!

  • Perry | January 15, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    Cool! Three links in the ticker to pictures of former Ohio State QB Rex Kern, one of my boyhood heroes and the most famous athlete ever to come from my high school (the Lancaster Golden Gales, doncha know). Admittedly not much competition there — Allan Anderson, who won an AL ERA title then dropped off the map, is about it. I guess there’s still time for Bobby Carpenter to become the next Dick Butkus.

  • E_Ro | January 15, 2008 at 11:46 am |

    Diagonal lettered hockey sweaters:

    Michigan’s 2 OHL teams, the Saginaw Spirit and Plymouth Whalers wear alternates with that look.

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 11:50 am |

    Butch Davis apparently doesn’t care for the Carolina Blue of UNC. Check out this find:

    http://accfootballne...

  • Timmy B | January 15, 2008 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”203230″][quote comment=”203220″]did it ever strike anyone else that chicago fire might not be such a great name? (and yes, it prolly is named for the fire dept. or something lame…im not doing the research on it now)

    kind of how this or this might bring back some…oh…not good memories[/quote]
    Actually, the club was named after THE Fire, and was officially founded on October 8, so it would be on the anniversary of the Great Chicago Fire.

    The way I understand it (I am not a native Chicagoan, so I wouldn’t know for sure), the way Chicago was able to rise up from the ashes of the Great Chicago Fire to become one of the greatest cities in America is seen as a sense of pride for those city-dwellers, hence the name for the soccer team. Also, from a purely economic side, the Great Chicago Fire actually helped the city industrialize, although at too a great cost, by clearing out sub-standard buildings.

    Fun fact: The Peshtigo Fire killed more people and caused more damage than the Chicago Fire, but didn’t get the press, as it happened on the same day.[/quote]

    The original Chicago Fire

    1974

  • teamcinnamon | January 15, 2008 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”203252″][quote comment=”203245″][quote comment=”203213″]Heads up logo creepers…this going to be a doozy…

    http://chicagobusine...

    Chicago Fire Gets Jersey Sponsor

    (Crain’s) — Best Buy Co. has signed on to be the first jersey sponsor for the Chicago Fire, a deal that could inject millions to the unprofitable soccer team.

    Team officials and representatives of Best Buy, which is based in suburban Minneapolis, are scheduled to debut the new jersey Tuesday afternoon at a Burbank Best Buy store. Details of the sponsorship are being kept under wraps until the official unveiling, a Chicago Fire spokeswoman said.

    Chicago Fire general manager John Guppy has said he was looking for a multi-year $2.5-million deal for the front of the jersey. If the team landed that amount, it would help offset its three-year contract with Cuauhtémoc Blanco, a Mexican soccer star who has been a winning addition for the team in terms of its record and financial haul. Mr. Blanco’s contract guarantees him $2.67 million in the first year.[/quote]

    If this is how MLS has to roll, so be it.[/quote]

    Thank God. Seriously. I love soccer, and without jersey sponsors they(MLS teams) really can’t compete for players like the bigger clubs, overseas, that embraced it years ago. Hypocritical as it may be, I might have a heart attack when the day comes that an NBA, NFL or MLB teams does this, but I welcome it to the MLS. More money=better players=better product=more fans=more money….so on and so forth. And hey, at least the sponsor is a business I’ve heard of unlike XanGo or Comex.[/quote]

    Can’t wait until the days where we see BIMBO plastered across one of the club’s jerseys!

  • Mark M | January 15, 2008 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”203252″][quote comment=”203245″][quote comment=”203213″]Heads up logo creepers…this going to be a doozy…

    http://chicagobusine...

    Chicago Fire Gets Jersey Sponsor (SNIP)

    [/quote]

    If this is how MLS has to roll, so be it.[/quote]

    Thank God. Seriously. I love soccer, and without jersey sponsors they(MLS teams) really can’t compete for players like the bigger clubs, overseas, that embraced it years ago. Hypocritical as it may be, I might have a heart attack when the day comes that an NBA, NFL or MLB teams does this, but I welcome it to the MLS. More money=better players=better product=more fans=more money….so on and so forth. And hey, at least the sponsor is a business I’ve heard of unlike XanGo or Comex.[/quote]

    I agree with this double standard. There is a consistency though, MLS needs jersey sponsors because every team they compete with for players has them (except for Barca and we really aren’t competing with them). MLB, the NFL, and the NBA don’t have any real competition. They can afford to not chase after every single dollar.

    Maybe in another 25 years a pan-Euro league could rival the NBA (or NHL) but not any time soon. If that does happen you can bet there will be a McDonald’s logo slapped right across the chest of the Lakers or Celtics. Hopefully this board will still exist so I can enjoy the fireworks.

  • Didre | January 15, 2008 at 12:08 pm |

    Hockey is huge at Michigan. Games are raucous and tickets are hard to come by. Nice to see that coach Rodriguez is fitting in so well. Of course he was probably wearing the jersey because he was going to be the contestant at Score-O that night.

    Though the Michigan helmets are based on the Princeton design, the Delaware helmets are a descendant of Michigan’s.

    Has anyone seen this? A professor in New Zealand gives scores to every nation’s flag. I thought UniWatchers would find it interesting, though I don’t think Paul would agree with his comments about the colors of the Togo flag.

  • Paul Lukas | January 15, 2008 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”203273″][MLB, the NFL, and the NBA don’t have any real competition.[/quote]

    More than that — the NFL and MLB have a gov’t-sanctioned antitrust exemption!

  • Jim | January 15, 2008 at 12:09 pm |

    News out of St. Louis … Troy Glaus is expected to wear #25 with the Cardinals.

  • Duckstyle187 | January 15, 2008 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”203270″][quote comment=”203252″][quote comment=”203245″][quote comment=”203213″]Heads up logo creepers…this going to be a doozy…

    http://chicagobusine...

    Chicago Fire Gets Jersey Sponsor

    (Crain’s) — Best Buy Co. has signed on to be the first jersey sponsor for the Chicago Fire, a deal that could inject millions to the unprofitable soccer team.

    Team officials and representatives of Best Buy, which is based in suburban Minneapolis, are scheduled to debut the new jersey Tuesday afternoon at a Burbank Best Buy store. Details of the sponsorship are being kept under wraps until the official unveiling, a Chicago Fire spokeswoman said.

    Chicago Fire general manager John Guppy has said he was looking for a multi-year $2.5-million deal for the front of the jersey. If the team landed that amount, it would help offset its three-year contract with Cuauhtémoc Blanco, a Mexican soccer star who has been a winning addition for the team in terms of its record and financial haul. Mr. Blanco’s contract guarantees him $2.67 million in the first year.[/quote]

    If this is how MLS has to roll, so be it.[/quote]

    Thank God. Seriously. I love soccer, and without jersey sponsors they(MLS teams) really can’t compete for players like the bigger clubs, overseas, that embraced it years ago. Hypocritical as it may be, I might have a heart attack when the day comes that an NBA, NFL or MLB teams does this, but I welcome it to the MLS. More money=better players=better product=more fans=more money….so on and so forth. And hey, at least the sponsor is a business I’ve heard of unlike XanGo or Comex.[/quote]

    Can’t wait until the days where we see BIMBO plastered across one of the club’s jerseys![/quote]

    I was actually thinking of the Viagra sponsored Nascar car myself. Too bad it wasn’t something fitting, I was hoping for a Tabasco or Bic jersey sponsor.

  • Shane | January 15, 2008 at 12:13 pm |

    Hartford rocking the diagonal lettering as well.

    (A week on Uni-Watch without bringing up AHL sweaters? Impossible!)

  • Justin B | January 15, 2008 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”203267″][quote comment=”203230″][quote comment=”203220″]did it ever strike anyone else that chicago fire might not be such a great name? (and yes, it prolly is named for the fire dept. or something lame…im not doing the research on it now)

    kind of how this or this might bring back some…oh…not good memories[/quote]
    Actually, the club was named after THE Fire, and was officially founded on October 8, so it would be on the anniversary of the Great Chicago Fire.

    The way I understand it (I am not a native Chicagoan, so I wouldn’t know for sure), the way Chicago was able to rise up from the ashes of the Great Chicago Fire to become one of the greatest cities in America is seen as a sense of pride for those city-dwellers, hence the name for the soccer team. Also, from a purely economic side, the Great Chicago Fire actually helped the city industrialize, although at too a great cost, by clearing out sub-standard buildings.

    Fun fact: The Peshtigo Fire killed more people and caused more damage than the Chicago Fire, but didn’t get the press, as it happened on the same day.[/quote]

    The original Chicago Fire

    1974[/quote]

    Are there any better photos?

  • todd krevanchi | January 15, 2008 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”203265″]Butch Davis apparently doesn’t care for the Carolina Blue of UNC. Check out this find:

    http://accfootballne...

    butch davis is nobody in the scope of what UNC athletics is and what it has been.

    he may get his navy trimmed with carolina and white jersey, and im sure it will be very popular with the students and at the merchandise table, but he will only get it in the form of a third or alternate jersey.

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

    Though the Michigan helmets are based on the Princeton design, the Delaware helmets are a descendant of Michigan’s.

    Didre, thanks for clearing that up. I had always heard the story yet had never found evidence.

  • Ronnie Poore | January 15, 2008 at 12:26 pm |

    in yesterday’s comment section, i posted my version of the Chargers road unis with light blue pants and trim. someone mentioned that they should have gold trousers…
    what do you think of this look?:
    http://s5.photobucke...

  • E_Ro | January 15, 2008 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”203274″]Hockey is huge at Michigan. Games are raucous and tickets are hard to come by. Nice to see that coach Rodriguez is fitting in so well. Of course he was probably wearing the jersey because he was going to be the contestant at Score-O that night. [/quote]

    That was the first Michigan game at Yost I had to miss after graduating. sniff Now I have to move to hockey-less Kentucky.

  • Aram | January 15, 2008 at 12:31 pm |

    Rich Rodriguez went directly from Schembechler Hall to the hockey game at Yost Ice Arena that night, where he dropped the ceremonial puck, was a contestant in the Score-O competition between the first and second periods, and made his way around the arena during the game with some of his coaching staff. He moved from the press box to the student section for most of the last 2 periods.

    I think he got #23 because it’s one of the few numbers from 2-36 that isn’t in use on the current roster. That’s the only explanation I can figure out. He did have an authentic jersey, though, with the shinier fabric and the CCHA patch…

  • Rick | January 15, 2008 at 12:36 pm |

    Dan Fouts. Sans muff.

    http://i.cnn.net/si/...(ap).jpg

  • Rick | January 15, 2008 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”203289″]Dan Fouts.

    Sans muff.

    http://i.cnn.net/si/...(ap).jpg[/quote]

    Stupid link…

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 15, 2008 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”203285″][quote comment=”203274″]Hockey is huge at Michigan. Games are raucous and tickets are hard to come by. Nice to see that coach Rodriguez is fitting in so well. Of course he was probably wearing the jersey because he was going to be the contestant at Score-O that night. [/quote]

    That was the first Michigan game at Yost I had to miss after graduating. sniff Now I have to move to hockey-less Kentucky.[/quote]

    Don’t know where in Kentucky you are E-Ro, but, the University of Kentucky does have a hockey team, it is currently ranked 11th in Southeast Division of the ACHA, and they have put out some nice posters to support the team.

    P.S. The 1999-2000 poster is my wife’s cousin.

  • Jason | January 15, 2008 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”203212″]Ohio State brought back the black TV numbers for a season in the 1990s (25th or 30th anniversary of the 1968 championship, methinks).

    Looking for pictures now.[/quote]

    Here you go- Big Daddy in 1993

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 12:46 pm |

    Butch Davis apparently doesn’t care for the Carolina Blue of UNC. Check out this find:

    http://accfootballne

    butch davis is nobody in the scope of what UNC athletics is and what it has been.

    he may get his navy trimmed with carolina and white jersey, and im sure it will be very popular with the students and at the merchandise table, but he will only get it in the form of a third or alternate jersey.

    Todd, I have always loved UNC with base navy as it’s color, much like Syracuse. I had always hoped to see SU basketball devise an alternate uniform with Navy as it’s base. Unfortunately they came up with the full Syracuse wordmark and then the new SO.D. disasters. Jordan brand has made Swingman style throwback shorts for UNC in this fashion and they have looked sharp. Many of the less popular sports at Carolina have implemented the navy base, like filed hockey.

  • Mike | January 15, 2008 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”203255″]Before Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith cam out in theaters, George Lucas sponsored a F1 race car. Check out the awesome design of the pit crew helmets here.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”203279″]Hartford rocking the diagonal lettering as well.

    (A week on Uni-Watch without bringing up AHL sweaters? Impossible!)[/quote]

    Not only do the Wolpack have the diagonal lettering but also some logo creep there by The Hartford Insurance Company

  • Joe | January 15, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    The Dakota Wizards have the only good unis in the D-league which has the most boring unis evver

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 12:50 pm |

    butch davis is nobody in the scope of what UNC athletics is and what it has been.

    If the UNi-Watchers of the world want to fully appreciate the above statement. Then “The Carolina Way” is required reading. No one individual is bigger than the program!

    http://www.amazon.co...

    A few weeks ago, someone stated an old Japanese proverb that had become engrained in my mind, “The nail that sticks out will and must be hammered down!”

  • teamcinnamon | January 15, 2008 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”203296″]The Dakota Wizards have the only good unis in the D-league which has the most boring unis evver[/quote]

    There was a game on NBA Network last night – Anaheim and Souix Falls.. they must’ve had an attendence of 82.

  • Lee | January 15, 2008 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”203252″][quote comment=”203245″][quote comment=”203213″]Heads up logo creepers…this going to be a doozy…

    http://chicagobusine...

    Chicago Fire Gets Jersey Sponsor

    (Crain’s) — Best Buy Co. has signed on to be the first jersey sponsor for the Chicago Fire, a deal that could inject millions to the unprofitable soccer team.

    Team officials and representatives of Best Buy, which is based in suburban Minneapolis, are scheduled to debut the new jersey Tuesday afternoon at a Burbank Best Buy store. Details of the sponsorship are being kept under wraps until the official unveiling, a Chicago Fire spokeswoman said.

    Chicago Fire general manager John Guppy has said he was looking for a multi-year $2.5-million deal for the front of the jersey. If the team landed that amount, it would help offset its three-year contract with Cuauhtémoc Blanco, a Mexican soccer star who has been a winning addition for the team in terms of its record and financial haul. Mr. Blanco’s contract guarantees him $2.67 million in the first year.[/quote]

    If this is how MLS has to roll, so be it.[/quote]

    Thank God. Seriously. I love soccer, and without jersey sponsors they(MLS teams) really can’t compete for players like the bigger clubs, overseas, that embraced it years ago. Hypocritical as it may be, I might have a heart attack when the day comes that an NBA, NFL or MLB teams does this, but I welcome it to the MLS. More money=better players=better product=more fans=more money….so on and so forth. And hey, at least the sponsor is a business I’ve heard of unlike XanGo or Comex.[/quote]

    the difference between soccer and other american sports is that (except for inter MLS moves) players are bought and sold. so not only do clubs have to pay the salaries of players, to get them to join their club, they have to pay their previous clubs millions of dollars. for instance, when shevchenko moved from Milan to chelsea chelsea had to pay milan over £30 million. this is on top of his huge salary. this is similar to what the red sox had to do for Dice K.

  • Ronnie Poore | January 15, 2008 at 12:59 pm |

    another alternate concept uni: cowboys silver jersey/white pants:
    http://s5.photobucke...

  • Erin Berggren | January 15, 2008 at 1:00 pm |

    I hope this posting isn’t out of order in this discussion thread. I’m looking for an old photo of a winter ski jumping competition held at Chicago’s Wrigley Field. I believe this took place in 1933 but I could be wrong. From what I understand the jump began in the vicinty of the current pressbox. I’ve tried researching this via Google, my local library, various Baseball History books, Chicago Cubs history books, etc. with no luck. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. erinberggren@gmail.com

  • JoeS | January 15, 2008 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”203291″][quote comment=”203289″]Dan Fouts.

    Sans muff.

    http://i.cnn.net/si/...(ap).jpg[/quote]

    Stupid link…

    http://sportsillustr...
    I actually thought it looked like he had pockets sewn in. It’s hard to tell (and I’m definitely not sure), but it looks like there is a horizontal seam about an inch or two below the numbers (most visible below the 1). That is the main thing I noticed, but it looks like it is possible that the openings on the sides could either be straight down (plumb with the right edge of the 4) or angled from the lower corner of the 4 down to his hip. I’m really not sure, but does anyone know if they did this kind of thing then?

  • super390 | January 15, 2008 at 1:10 pm |

    Don’t forget the twice-champion Houston Aeros of the WHA. This link shows lots of WHA jerseys with diagonal lettering.

    http://www.geocities...

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 1:11 pm |

    The NBA d-league chatter peaked my curiosity.
    I went to the site of the Iowa Energy who feature Jackie Manuel fromerly of UNC, as well as JamesOn Curry of OSU, who always wore interesting kicks while in Stillwater.

    http://cache.viewima...

    Take a look at the nameplates below the numbers, similar to Oakland:
    http://www.nba.com/g...
    http://www.nba.com/d...

    The D-league, much like it’s parent league, has the players wear specific league logo socks made by For Bare Feet. If you have never worn them, they are incredibly comfy. Pair them with some UGG moccassins, I am not leaving my house!
    http://www.nba.com/g...

    And I know, somebody posted it the other day, but the defunct NBA ball from last year that they use is cool, but the Blue channels are just strange!

  • Timmy B | January 15, 2008 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”203280″][quote comment=”203267″][quote comment=”203230″][quote comment=”203220″]did it ever strike anyone else that chicago fire might not be such a great name? (and yes, it prolly is named for the fire dept. or something lame…im not doing the research on it now)

    kind of how this or this might bring back some…oh…not good memories[/quote]
    Actually, the club was named after THE Fire, and was officially founded on October 8, so it would be on the anniversary of the Great Chicago Fire.

    The way I understand it (I am not a native Chicagoan, so I wouldn’t know for sure), the way Chicago was able to rise up from the ashes of the Great Chicago Fire to become one of the greatest cities in America is seen as a sense of pride for those city-dwellers, hence the name for the soccer team. Also, from a purely economic side, the Great Chicago Fire actually helped the city industrialize, although at too a great cost, by clearing out sub-standard buildings.

    Fun fact: The Peshtigo Fire killed more people and caused more damage than the Chicago Fire, but didn’t get the press, as it happened on the same day.[/quote]

    The original Chicago Fire

    1974[/quote]

    Are there any better photos?[/quote]

    Chicago Fire vs. Detroit Wheels

    This isn’t the Fire, it’s the Birmingham Americans vs. the Florida Blazers. check out the color of the football.

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 1:19 pm |

    The original Chicago Fire

    1974

    Are there any better photos?

    Chicago Fire vs. Detroit Wheels

    This isn’t the Fire, it’s the Birmingham Americans vs. the Florida Blazers. check out the color of the football.

    What league were thse teams part of..the USFL?

  • Perry | January 15, 2008 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”203220″]did it ever strike anyone else that chicago fire might not be such a great name? (and yes, it prolly is named for the fire dept. or something lame…im not doing the research on it now)

    kind of how this or this might bring back some…oh…not good memories[/quote]

    I’ve wondered the same thing about the Colorado Avalanche. Avalanches kill several people a year out here, two just last week.

  • Philly Bill | January 15, 2008 at 1:24 pm |

    Dunno if I’d buy a pair of these beauties, but I really want to see them up close and maybe smell them. Wonder if they have that just-opened-can smell.

    Steagle Colbeagle The Eagle rocks the diagonal lettering in Saginaw.

    Paul’s “Crazy Eddie” reference reminded me of this: “If nobody comes down here and buys a car in the next hour, I’m gonna club this baby seal!

    If anyone knows the source of that line, keep it to yourself, ’cause you might be an even bigger loser than I am.

  • Justin B | January 15, 2008 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”203307″][quote comment=”203280″][quote comment=”203267″][quote comment=”203230″][quote comment=”203220″]did it ever strike anyone else that chicago fire might not be such a great name? (and yes, it prolly is named for the fire dept. or something lame…im not doing the research on it now)

    kind of how this or this might bring back some…oh…not good memories[/quote]
    Actually, the club was named after THE Fire, and was officially founded on October 8, so it would be on the anniversary of the Great Chicago Fire.

    The way I understand it (I am not a native Chicagoan, so I wouldn’t know for sure), the way Chicago was able to rise up from the ashes of the Great Chicago Fire to become one of the greatest cities in America is seen as a sense of pride for those city-dwellers, hence the name for the soccer team. Also, from a purely economic side, the Great Chicago Fire actually helped the city industrialize, although at too a great cost, by clearing out sub-standard buildings.

    Fun fact: The Peshtigo Fire killed more people and caused more damage than the Chicago Fire, but didn’t get the press, as it happened on the same day.[/quote]

    The original Chicago Fire

    1974[/quote]

    Are there any better photos?[/quote]

    Chicago Fire vs. Detroit Wheels

    This isn’t the Fire, it’s the Birmingham Americans vs. the Florida Blazers. check out the color of the football. [/quote]

    Thanks.

  • Timmy B | January 15, 2008 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”203308″]The original Chicago Fire

    1974

    Are there any better photos?

    Chicago Fire vs. Detroit Wheels

    This isn’t the Fire, it’s the Birmingham Americans vs. the Florida Blazers. check out the color of the football.

    What league were thse teams part of..the USFL?[/quote]

    The World Football League. It was in existence for two seasons: 1974 and 1975…..

    see here for the history

  • Justin B | January 15, 2008 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”203309″][quote comment=”203220″]did it ever strike anyone else that chicago fire might not be such a great name? (and yes, it prolly is named for the fire dept. or something lame…im not doing the research on it now)

    kind of how this or this might bring back some…oh…not good memories[/quote]

    I’ve wondered the same thing about the Colorado Avalanche. Avalanches kill several people a year out here, two just last week.[/quote]

    Atleast an avalanche applies to that region. I don’t see a lot of lions or Tigers in Detriot.

  • Jason G. | January 15, 2008 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”203292″][quote comment=”203285″][quote comment=”203274″]Hockey is huge at Michigan. Games are raucous and tickets are hard to come by. Nice to see that coach Rodriguez is fitting in so well. Of course he was probably wearing the jersey because he was going to be the contestant at Score-O that night. [/quote]

    That was the first Michigan game at Yost I had to miss after graduating. sniff Now I have to move to hockey-less Kentucky.[/quote]

    Don’t know where in Kentucky you are E-Ro, but, the University of Kentucky does have a hockey team, it is currently ranked 11th in Southeast Division of the ACHA, and they have put out some nice posters to support the team.

    P.S. The 1999-2000 poster is my wife’s cousin.[/quote]

    Funny you should mention UK hockey on a day when diagonal lettering is being discussed. The Cool Cats have been using it for a few years now. Various pictres here.

    UK hockey games are fun, but they are nowhere near a family environment. If you don’t mind waiting ’til midnight for the games to start and putting up with about 600 drunk college students, you’d probably have a good time.

  • nastykjn | January 15, 2008 at 1:35 pm |

    Is it just me or were the Packers’ TV numbers HUGE against Seattle?

  • Dwight | January 15, 2008 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”203301″]another alternate concept uni: cowboys silver jersey/white pants:
    http://s5.photobucke...

    Whatever time that took is time you will NEVER get back my friend.

  • Joey Guns | January 15, 2008 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”203302″]I hope this posting isn’t out of order in this discussion thread. I’m looking for an old photo of a winter ski jumping competition held at Chicago’s Wrigley Field.

    I believe this took place in 1933 but I could be wrong. From what I understand the jump began in the vicinty of the current pressbox. I’ve tried researching this via Google, my local library, various Baseball History books, Chicago Cubs history books, etc. with no luck. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. erinberggren@gmail.com[/quote]

    I looked and I can’t find a pic, but I’d love to see it on here. I found a website that said it happened in January 1944. The skiers raced from the upper deck behind home plate down a track, and they landed in the outfield. There was a crowd of around 6,000 who enjoyed the event, because they needed a wartime distraction.

    I did find a pic of a ski jump at Dodger Stadium, however….

    http://www.ballparkt...

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | January 15, 2008 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”203301″]another alternate concept uni: cowboys silver jersey/white pants:
    http://s5.photobucke...

    Ehhhhhh…doesn’t work. Sliver or Gold jerseys don’t work for some reason. Maybe they can adopt white pants with a stripe with navy trim.

  • Philly Bill | January 15, 2008 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”203318″][quote comment=”203302″]I hope this posting isn’t out of order in this discussion thread. I’m looking for an old photo of a winter ski jumping competition held at Chicago’s Wrigley Field.

    I believe this took place in 1933 but I could be wrong. From what I understand the jump began in the vicinty of the current pressbox. I’ve tried researching this via Google, my local library, various Baseball History books, Chicago Cubs history books, etc. with no luck. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. erinberggren@gmail.com[/quote]

    I looked and I can’t find a pic, but I’d love to see it on here.

    I found a website that said it happened in January 1944. The skiers raced from the upper deck behind home plate down a track, and they landed in the outfield. There was a crowd of around 6,000 who enjoyed the event, because they needed a wartime distraction.

    I did find a pic of a ski jump at Dodger Stadium, however….

    http://www.ballparkt...

    Sounds like the inspiration for “Kite Man” at the Vet.

  • Jeremy Brahm | January 15, 2008 at 1:49 pm |

    On the white Marquette photo, notice on the left side of the uniform that they have arrowheads.

    The Ol Goalers says:
    Because at the time, they were the Marquette “Warriors” (Abusive and Demeaning Alert!)… since the school was named for Father Jacques Marquette, a Jesuit priest who was trying to convert Native Americans to Christianity, I remain puzzled as to just how “Warriors” was “demeaning”… but then, I’m not a pencil-necked geek! [/sarcasm]

    Thanks, I remember them as the Warriors before becoming the Golden Eagles, but I just found the design interesting, because it is not a normal pattern on the side. I hadn’t seen it on the other Marquette shots that we’ve seen before.

  • Joey Guns | January 15, 2008 at 1:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”203318″][quote comment=”203302″]I hope this posting isn’t out of order in this discussion thread. I’m looking for an old photo of a winter ski jumping competition held at Chicago’s Wrigley Field.

    I believe this took place in 1933 but I could be wrong. From what I understand the jump began in the vicinty of the current pressbox. I’ve tried researching this via Google, my local library, various Baseball History books, Chicago Cubs history books, etc. with no luck. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. erinberggren@gmail.com[/quote]

    I looked and I can’t find a pic, but I’d love to see it on here.

    I found a website that said it happened in January 1944. The skiers raced from the upper deck behind home plate down a track, and they landed in the outfield. There was a crowd of around 6,000 who enjoyed the event, because they needed a wartime distraction.

    I did find a pic of a ski jump at Dodger Stadium, however….

    http://www.ballparkt...

    And perhaps the most unusual sporting event of all.

    “One of my favorite events here at Wrigley was in 1944, two consecutive weekends, a local ski club used Wrigley Field for a ski jumping championship. Using scaffolding they built a fake hill behind home plate, the skier took off from what was roughly the TV booth today, came down the hill, took off and landed back at second base,”.

    http://wgntv.trb.com...

  • Peter | January 15, 2008 at 1:53 pm |

    There is a great TV series called the Real Football Factories that chronicles football hooliganism in the UK and around the world. Two things stood out to me in an episode on Northwest England (Liverpool and Manchester). First is how high fashion became the standard holigan outfit after the Liverpool fans pillaged shops in Europe, and how today fans who wear team colours and kits are consider ordinary fans. Also in many other countries team colours are treated with more reverence than National flags, with people literally willing to kill or die for them. Takes the importance of uniforms to a scary level.
    Also I just saw an RBK hockey commercial last night that had Sidney Crosby pledging to play for the logo on the front of his jersey and not the name on the back. It was kinda creepy and my first thought was you mean you play for Pittsburgh and not RBK?

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 15, 2008 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote]

    Chicago Fire vs. Detroit Wheels

    Thanks.[/quote]

    Note the NOB on the Detroit Wheels player … Wheeler.

  • Jim | January 15, 2008 at 1:58 pm |

    Looks like my original post got eaten …

    Rumor out of St. Louis is the Cardinals will be giving #25 to Troy Glaus … I bet Tim Hulett will be TICKED off!

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | January 15, 2008 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”203325″][quote comment=”203318″][quote comment=”203302″]I hope this posting isn’t out of order in this discussion thread. I’m looking for an old photo of a winter ski jumping competition held at Chicago’s Wrigley Field.

    I believe this took place in 1933 but I could be wrong. From what I understand the jump began in the vicinty of the current pressbox. I’ve tried researching this via Google, my local library, various Baseball History books, Chicago Cubs history books, etc. with no luck. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. erinberggren@gmail.com[/quote]

    I looked and I can’t find a pic, but I’d love to see it on here.

    I found a website that said it happened in January 1944. The skiers raced from the upper deck behind home plate down a track, and they landed in the outfield. There was a crowd of around 6,000 who enjoyed the event, because they needed a wartime distraction.

    I did find a pic of a ski jump at Dodger Stadium, however….

    http://www.ballparkt...

    And perhaps the most unusual sporting event of all.

    “One of my favorite events here at Wrigley was in 1944, two consecutive weekends, a local ski club used Wrigley Field for a ski jumping championship. Using scaffolding they built a fake hill behind home plate, the skier took off from what was roughly the TV booth today, came down the hill, took off and landed back at second base,”.

    http://wgntv.trb.com...

    so im sure you saw it at soldier field…
    http://www.gilcoscaf...

  • Justin B | January 15, 2008 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”203331″][quote comment=”203325″][quote comment=”203318″][quote comment=”203302″]I hope this posting isn’t out of order in this discussion thread. I’m looking for an old photo of a winter ski jumping competition held at Chicago’s Wrigley Field.

    I believe this took place in 1933 but I could be wrong. From what I understand the jump began in the vicinty of the current pressbox. I’ve tried researching this via Google, my local library, various Baseball History books, Chicago Cubs history books, etc. with no luck. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. erinberggren@gmail.com[/quote]

    I looked and I can’t find a pic, but I’d love to see it on here.

    I found a website that said it happened in January 1944. The skiers raced from the upper deck behind home plate down a track, and they landed in the outfield. There was a crowd of around 6,000 who enjoyed the event, because they needed a wartime distraction.

    I did find a pic of a ski jump at Dodger Stadium, however….

    http://www.ballparkt...

    And perhaps the most unusual sporting event of all.

    “One of my favorite events here at Wrigley was in 1944, two consecutive weekends, a local ski club used Wrigley Field for a ski jumping championship. Using scaffolding they built a fake hill behind home plate, the skier took off from what was roughly the TV booth today, came down the hill, took off and landed back at second base,”.

    http://wgntv.trb.com...

    so im sure you saw it at soldier field…
    http://www.gilcoscaf...

    This is the stuff I still wish they did.

  • Kerry P | January 15, 2008 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”203201″]Nice work, Jason!

    I’d be interested to know about schools like Princeton and Delaware as well. According to the Helmet project, I know Princeton has gone through various iterations, ranging to a Bengals style arches lettering to the current winged design. But when did Delaware start using the design as well and did Crisler coach there as well?[/quote]
    From the Helmet Project:
    “Delaware began using the “winged” helmet design in 1951, and has used it continuously ever since, with only a few changes to the facemask color and perhaps some slight modifications to the shades of blue and gold having been made during these five decades. The change from a darker blue to a nearly royal blue in 2004 is the most substantial change to the blue color of which I am aware.”

    And, as for Coach Fritz Crisler, NO. He did not coach at Delaware. He was at Minnesota in 1930-31; Princeton 1932-37; and Michigan 1938-47.

  • LI Phil | January 15, 2008 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”203301″]another alternate concept uni: cowboys silver jersey/white pants:
    http://s5.photobucke...

    as long as you’re designing jerseys that will never happen, id love to see a chiefs or packers yellow…

    and one that might…a giants gray (to match the pants), with the away (red stripe/number) jersey colorings

    thanks

  • mg12 | January 15, 2008 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”203237″][quote comment=”203209″]On the white Marquette photo, notice on the left side of the uniform that they have arrowheads.[/quote]
    Because at the time, they were the Marquette “Warriors” (Abusive and Demeaning Alert!)… since the school was named for Father Jacques Marquette, a Jesuit priest who was trying to convert Native Americans to Christianity, I remain puzzled as to just how “Warriors” was “demeaning”… but then, I’m not a pencil-necked geek! [/sarcasm][/quote]

    I was always confused why Marquette chose to change their mascot from the Warriors to that of the Golden Eagles. I can understand why people might be upset by the negative image of this warrior being illustrated as an axe welding native american called “Willie Wompum”.

    http://www.wisconsin...

    but I don’t think that the name “warriors” in-and-of-itself needs to have a direct connection to the native american people.

    Couldn’t Marquette have kept the “warrior” as thier mascot and simply change its image to something other than a native american?

  • Kerry P | January 15, 2008 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”203265″]Butch Davis apparently doesn’t care for the Carolina Blue of UNC. Check out this find:

    http://accfootballne...
    Hmmmmm….looks like Duke.

  • LI Phil | January 15, 2008 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”203336″]Couldn’t Marquette have kept the “warrior” as thier mascot and simply change its image to something other than a native american?[/quote]

    yes

  • Duckstyle187 | January 15, 2008 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”203316″]Is it just me or were the Packers’ TV numbers HUGE against Seattle?[/quote]

    Looked pretty run of the mill to me, same size as usual.

  • Dane | January 15, 2008 at 2:27 pm |

    Another diagonal-letter hockey sweater…

    Here are your University of Arizona Icecats!

    I think the ACHA has a lot of teams that use this look.

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 2:28 pm |

    I hate being the last one to a party, but It proves how disinterested in the NBA I’ve become!
    I knew that the Sixers tweaked their home and road unis but their new alt is beautiful!

    I love the PHILA on the front:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    I also love them because they remind me of these:
    http://pictopia.com/...

  • Dane | January 15, 2008 at 2:28 pm |

    I normally don’t agree with this site’s anti-purple stance, but this guy may make me change my mind.

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 2:32 pm |

    Plus for you sneakerheads out there, check out the Nike Zoom BB2 on Parker:
    http://sports.espn.g...

    Those Jayhawk unis also remind me of the PE XIII’s that they wore in that Villanova game and for a while after:

    http://images.google...

  • Bendert | January 15, 2008 at 2:35 pm |

    Even though Wikipedia posts several “games of the century,” Ohio State is nowhere on that list. I’ve only heard of Notre Dame v. MSU, 1966, #1 v. #2, a game that ended in a 10-10 tie.

  • Marty Met | January 15, 2008 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”203296″]The Dakota Wizards have the only good unis in the D-league which has the most boring unis evver[/quote]

    The Mad Ants have REALLY sweet uniforms.!!

  • Dane | January 15, 2008 at 2:36 pm |

    Here’s two more ACHA teams with the diagonal:

    Weber State

    And hats off to Rutgers for having two different entries.

  • Jim | January 15, 2008 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”203347″][quote comment=”203296″]The Dakota Wizards have the only good unis in the D-league which has the most boring unis evver[/quote]

    The Mad Ants have REALLY sweet uniforms.!![/quote]

    So the balls not good enough for the NBA, but it works fine for the developmental league???

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 2:37 pm |

    http://www.uaicecats...

    Having a cactus on a hockey sweater seems blasphemous!

  • Geeman | January 15, 2008 at 2:37 pm |

    Carolina wore navy blue jerseys in practice this year and it looked good with a Carolina blue helmet. That would look good with white pants, but it’s not Caroilna’s color.

  • Jason G. | January 15, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”203335″][quote comment=”203301″]another alternate concept uni: cowboys silver jersey/white pants:
    http://s5.photobucke...

    as long as you’re designing jerseys that will never happen, id love to see a chiefs or packers yellow…

    and one that might…a giants gray (to match the pants), with the away (red stripe/number) jersey colorings

    thanks[/quote]

    The Packers yellow actually exists. I don’t know why anyone would buy it but they do. I see them all the time on TV in the stands at Lambeau.

  • Marty Met | January 15, 2008 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”203292″][quote comment=”203285″][quote comment=”203274″]Hockey is huge at Michigan. Games are raucous and tickets are hard to come by. Nice to see that coach Rodriguez is fitting in so well. Of course he was probably wearing the jersey because he was going to be the contestant at Score-O that night. [/quote]

    That was the first Michigan game at Yost I had to miss after graduating. sniff Now I have to move to hockey-less Kentucky.[/quote]

    Don’t know where in Kentucky you are E-Ro, but, the University of Kentucky does have a hockey team, it is currently ranked 11th in Southeast Division of the ACHA, and they have put out some nice posters to support the team.

    P.S. The 1999-2000 poster is my wife’s cousin.[/quote]

    Saying they play at Hockey at Kentucky is like saying they play football at Columbia

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 2:49 pm |

    Hockey is huge at Michigan. Games are raucous and tickets are hard to come by. Nice to see that coach Rodriguez is fitting in so well. Of course he was probably wearing the jersey because he was going to be the contestant at Score-O that night.

    That was the first Michigan game at Yost I had to miss after graduating. sniff Now I have to move to hockey-less Kentucky.

    Don’t know where in Kentucky you are E-Ro, but, the University of Kentucky does have a hockey team, it is currently ranked 11th in Southeast Division of the ACHA, and they have put out some nice posters to support the team.

    P.S. The 1999-2000 poster is my wife’s cousin.

    Saying they play at Hockey at Kentucky is like saying they play football at Columbia

    That statement destroys my self-esteem! As a freshman in college, I didn’t get enough snaps in the varsity games on Saturday, so I would play in the Sunday “Hangover Bowl”. One such game was against Columbia, where we proceeded to get our asses handed to us in the first half. By halftime, we had “sweat out the poison” and gave them a game in the second only to end up losing by 1.

  • joe | January 15, 2008 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”203220″]did it ever strike anyone else that chicago fire might not be such a great name? (and yes, it prolly is named for the fire dept. or something lame…im not doing the research on it now)

    kind of how this or this might bring back some…oh…not good memories[/quote]

    Umm, no its named after the fire.

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 15, 2008 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”203355″]
    Saying they play at Hockey at Kentucky is like saying they play football at Columbia

    That statement destroys my self-esteem! As a freshman in college, I didn’t get enough snaps in the varsity games on Saturday, so I would play in the Sunday “Hangover Bowl”. One such game was against Columbia, where we proceeded to get our asses handed to us in the first half. By halftime, we had “sweat out the poison” and gave them a game in the second only to end up losing by 1.[/quote]

    Kentucky isn’t the only ‘big name’ school ranked in the top 15 of ACHA division 2. Ohio State is there too. I know it isn’t CCHA, but, it is hockey.

  • joe | January 15, 2008 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”203270″][quote comment=”203252″][quote comment=”203245″][quote comment=”203213″]Heads up logo creepers…this going to be a doozy…

    http://chicagobusine...

    Chicago Fire Gets Jersey Sponsor

    (Crain’s) — Best Buy Co. has signed on to be the first jersey sponsor for the Chicago Fire, a deal that could inject millions to the unprofitable soccer team.

    Team officials and representatives of Best Buy, which is based in suburban Minneapolis, are scheduled to debut the new jersey Tuesday afternoon at a Burbank Best Buy store. Details of the sponsorship are being kept under wraps until the official unveiling, a Chicago Fire spokeswoman said.

    Chicago Fire general manager John Guppy has said he was looking for a multi-year $2.5-million deal for the front of the jersey. If the team landed that amount, it would help offset its three-year contract with Cuauhtémoc Blanco, a Mexican soccer star who has been a winning addition for the team in terms of its record and financial haul. Mr. Blanco’s contract guarantees him $2.67 million in the first year.[/quote]

    If this is how MLS has to roll, so be it.[/quote]

    Thank God. Seriously. I love soccer, and without jersey sponsors they(MLS teams) really can’t compete for players like the bigger clubs, overseas, that embraced it years ago. Hypocritical as it may be, I might have a heart attack when the day comes that an NBA, NFL or MLB teams does this, but I welcome it to the MLS. More money=better players=better product=more fans=more money….so on and so forth. And hey, at least the sponsor is a business I’ve heard of unlike XanGo or Comex.[/quote]

    Can’t wait until the days where we see BIMBO plastered across one of the club’s jerseys![/quote]

    nah bimbo already does “real” soccer teams in mexico.

  • teamcinnamon | January 15, 2008 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”203333″][quote comment=”203331″][quote comment=”203325″][quote comment=”203318″][quote comment=”203302″]I hope this posting isn’t out of order in this discussion thread. I’m looking for an old photo of a winter ski jumping competition held at Chicago’s Wrigley Field.

    I believe this took place in 1933 but I could be wrong. From what I understand the jump began in the vicinty of the current pressbox. I’ve tried researching this via Google, my local library, various Baseball History books, Chicago Cubs history books, etc. with no luck. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. erinberggren@gmail.com[/quote]

    I looked and I can’t find a pic, but I’d love to see it on here.

    I found a website that said it happened in January 1944. The skiers raced from the upper deck behind home plate down a track, and they landed in the outfield. There was a crowd of around 6,000 who enjoyed the event, because they needed a wartime distraction.

    I did find a pic of a ski jump at Dodger Stadium, however….

    http://www.ballparkt...

    And perhaps the most unusual sporting event of all.

    “One of my favorite events here at Wrigley was in 1944, two consecutive weekends, a local ski club used Wrigley Field for a ski jumping championship. Using scaffolding they built a fake hill behind home plate, the skier took off from what was roughly the TV booth today, came down the hill, took off and landed back at second base,”.

    http://wgntv.trb.com...

    so im sure you saw it at soldier field…
    http://www.gilcoscaf...

    This is the stuff I still wish they did.[/quote]

    Man – it’s packed there!

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 3:27 pm |

    P.S. The 1999-2000 poster is my wife’s cousin.

    Noxzema Girl!!!

  • Erin Berggren | January 15, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    I hope this posting isn’t out of order in this discussion thread. I’m looking for an old photo of a winter ski jumping competition held at Chicago’s Wrigley Field.

    I believe this took place in 1933 but I could be wrong. From what I understand the jump began in the vicinty of the current pressbox. I’ve tried researching this via Google, my local library, various Baseball History books, Chicago Cubs history books, etc. with no luck. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. erinberggren@gmail.c...

    I looked and I can’t find a pic, but I’d love to see it on here.

    I found a website that said it happened in January 1944. The skiers raced from the upper deck behind home plate down a track, and they landed in the outfield. There was a crowd of around 6,000 who enjoyed the event, because they needed a wartime distraction.

    I did find a pic of a ski jump at Dodger Stadium, however….

    http://www.ballparkt

    And perhaps the most unusual sporting event of all.

    “One of my favorite events here at Wrigley was in 1944, two consecutive weekends, a local ski club used Wrigley Field for a ski jumping championship. Using scaffolding they built a fake hill behind home plate, the skier took off from what was roughly the TV booth today, came down the hill, took off and landed back at second base,”.

    http://wgntv.trb.com

    so im sure you saw it at soldier field…
    http://www.gilcoscaf

    This is the stuff I still wish they did.

    Man – it’s packed there!

    That Soldier Field pic ski jumping pic is awesome. Thanks. I had read about it as well but hadn’t laid eyes on it. Hopefully someone out there will know about the Wrigley pic too.

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    http://www.ukhockey....

    2006/2007…”Hasta La Vista, Baby!”

  • DenverGregg | January 15, 2008 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”203224″]Pictures here of a replica of the white 1959 UND Fighting Sioux jersey I referenced above, as well as a replica of a green sweater from 1958 with the diagonal print. Also, although not the type you’re looking for, further down the page is an Alaska jersey with the lettering in a diagonal pattern (similar to what the Captials wore when they started wearing the eagle sweater).[/quote]
    Thanks for posting that link. What a collection!

  • Ron | January 15, 2008 at 3:33 pm |

    Adidas is going fireproof, Jr. signed a apparel contract with them shortly after he announced his new team this past summer.

  • Ron | January 15, 2008 at 3:34 pm |

  • KT | January 15, 2008 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”203313″]
    Atleast an avalanche applies to that region. I don’t see a lot of lions or Tigers in Detriot.[/quote]

    I believe the Tigers were so named because of their striped socks, which were similar to those worn by the Princeton Tigers.

  • patrick | January 15, 2008 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”203315″][quote comment=”203292″][quote comment=”203285″][quote comment=”203274″]Hockey is huge at Michigan. Games are raucous and tickets are hard to come by. Nice to see that coach Rodriguez is fitting in so well. Of course he was probably wearing the jersey because he was going to be the contestant at Score-O that night. [/quote]

    That was the first Michigan game at Yost I had to miss after graduating. sniff Now I have to move to hockey-less Kentucky.[/quote]

    Don’t know where in Kentucky you are E-Ro, but, the University of Kentucky does have a hockey team, it is currently ranked 11th in Southeast Division of the ACHA, and they have put out some nice posters to support the team.

    P.S. The 1999-2000 poster is my wife’s cousin.[/quote]

    Funny you should mention UK hockey on a day when diagonal lettering is being discussed. The Cool Cats have been using it for a few years now. Various pictres here.

    UK hockey games are fun, but they are nowhere near a family environment. If you don’t mind waiting ’til midnight for the games to start and putting up with about 600 drunk college students, you’d probably have a good time.[/quote]

    the ONLY way to enjoy college hockey!

  • Justin B | January 15, 2008 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”203376″][quote comment=”203313″]
    Atleast an avalanche applies to that region. I don’t see a lot of lions or Tigers in Detriot.[/quote]

    I believe the Tigers were so named because of their striped socks, which were similar to those worn by the Princeton Tigers.[/quote]

    So, they are named after socks?

  • LI Phil | January 15, 2008 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”203378″][quote comment=”203376″][quote comment=”203313″]
    Atleast an avalanche applies to that region. I don’t see a lot of lions or Tigers in Detriot.[/quote]

    I believe the Tigers were so named because of their striped socks, which were similar to those worn by the Princeton Tigers.[/quote]

    So, they are named after socks?[/quote]

    yeah…imagine that

  • patrick | January 15, 2008 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”203362″][quote comment=”203270″][quote comment=”203252″][quote comment=”203245″][quote comment=”203213″]Heads up logo creepers…this going to be a doozy…

    http://chicagobusine...

    Chicago Fire Gets Jersey Sponsor

    (Crain’s) — Best Buy Co. has signed on to be the first jersey sponsor for the Chicago Fire, a deal that could inject millions to the unprofitable soccer team.

    Team officials and representatives of Best Buy, which is based in suburban Minneapolis, are scheduled to debut the new jersey Tuesday afternoon at a Burbank Best Buy store. Details of the sponsorship are being kept under wraps until the official unveiling, a Chicago Fire spokeswoman said.

    Chicago Fire general manager John Guppy has said he was looking for a multi-year $2.5-million deal for the front of the jersey. If the team landed that amount, it would help offset its three-year contract with Cuauhtémoc Blanco, a Mexican soccer star who has been a winning addition for the team in terms of its record and financial haul. Mr. Blanco’s contract guarantees him $2.67 million in the first year.[/quote]

    If this is how MLS has to roll, so be it.[/quote]

    Thank God. Seriously. I love soccer, and without jersey sponsors they(MLS teams) really can’t compete for players like the bigger clubs, overseas, that embraced it years ago. Hypocritical as it may be, I might have a heart attack when the day comes that an NBA, NFL or MLB teams does this, but I welcome it to the MLS. More money=better players=better product=more fans=more money….so on and so forth. And hey, at least the sponsor is a business I’ve heard of unlike XanGo or Comex.[/quote]

    Can’t wait until the days where we see BIMBO plastered across one of the club’s jerseys![/quote]

    nah bimbo already does “real” soccer teams in mexico.[/quote]

    Clearly, you’re not a soccer fan. Google samsung and soccer jersey, see how many come up.

  • Justin B | January 15, 2008 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”203380″][quote comment=”203378″][quote comment=”203376″][quote comment=”203313″]
    Atleast an avalanche applies to that region. I don’t see a lot of lions or Tigers in Detriot.[/quote]

    I believe the Tigers were so named because of their striped socks, which were similar to those worn by the Princeton Tigers.[/quote]

    So, they are named after socks?[/quote]

    yeah…imagine that[/quote]

    I don’t usually connect tigers and socks. And I wasn’t saying it was a bad thing.

  • Bryan | January 15, 2008 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”203292″][quote comment=”203285″][quote comment=”203274″]Hockey is huge at Michigan. Games are raucous and tickets are hard to come by. Nice to see that coach Rodriguez is fitting in so well. Of course he was probably wearing the jersey because he was going to be the contestant at Score-O that night. [/quote]

    That was the first Michigan game at Yost I had to miss after graduating. sniff Now I have to move to hockey-less Kentucky.[/quote]

    Don’t know where in Kentucky you are E-Ro, but, the University of Kentucky does have a hockey team, it is currently ranked 11th in Southeast Division of the ACHA, and they have put out some nice posters to support the team.

    P.S. The 1999-2000 poster is my wife’s cousin.[/quote]

    I have been in love with your cousin then for years :)

  • Jay | January 15, 2008 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”203345″]Even though Wikipedia posts several “games of the century,” Ohio State is nowhere on that list. I’ve only heard of Notre Dame v. MSU, 1966, #1 v. #2, a game that ended in a 10-10 tie.[/quote]

    Notre Dame-OSU 1935 (6?). One of the original games of the century.

    1993 on the black TV numbers? I was looking in the wrong years…

    25th anniversary of the 68 team.

  • KT | January 15, 2008 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”203383″][quote comment=”203380″][quote comment=”203378″][quote comment=”203376″][quote comment=”203313″]
    Atleast an avalanche applies to that region. I don’t see a lot of lions or Tigers in Detriot.[/quote]

    I believe the Tigers were so named because of their striped socks, which were similar to those worn by the Princeton Tigers.[/quote]

    So, they are named after socks?[/quote]

    yeah…imagine that[/quote]

    I don’t usually connect tigers and socks. And I wasn’t saying it was a bad thing.[/quote]

    Stripes on the socks. Looked like another team’s socks. Guy liked Princeton. They’re the Tigers.

    Word association.

  • Justin B | January 15, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”203386″][quote comment=”203383″][quote comment=”203380″][quote comment=”203378″][quote comment=”203376″][quote comment=”203313″]
    Atleast an avalanche applies to that region. I don’t see a lot of lions or Tigers in Detriot.[/quote]

    I believe the Tigers were so named because of their striped socks, which were similar to those worn by the Princeton Tigers.[/quote]

    So, they are named after socks?[/quote]

    yeah…imagine that[/quote]

    I don’t usually connect tigers and socks. And I wasn’t saying it was a bad thing.[/quote]

    Stripes on the socks. Looked like another team’s socks. Guy liked Princeton. They’re the Tigers.

    Word association.[/quote]

    Oh, I got. It’s just not my usual connection.

  • BobA | January 15, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    I had one of those Aeros sweaters in each color. Wish I still did.

  • Justin B | January 15, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”203386″][quote comment=”203383″][quote comment=”203380″][quote comment=”203378″][quote comment=”203376″][quote comment=”203313″]
    Atleast an avalanche applies to that region. I don’t see a lot of lions or Tigers in Detriot.[/quote]

    I believe the Tigers were so named because of their striped socks, which were similar to those worn by the Princeton Tigers.[/quote]

    So, they are named after socks?[/quote]

    yeah…imagine that[/quote]

    I don’t usually connect tigers and socks. And I wasn’t saying it was a bad thing.[/quote]

    Stripes on the socks. Looked like another team’s socks. Guy liked Princeton. They’re the Tigers.

    Word association.[/quote]

    Oh, I got it. It’s just not my usual connection.

  • Justin B | January 15, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”203386″][quote comment=”203383″][quote comment=”203380″][quote comment=”203378″][quote comment=”203376″][quote comment=”203313″]
    Atleast an avalanche applies to that region. I don’t see a lot of lions or Tigers in Detriot.[/quote]

    I believe the Tigers were so named because of their striped socks, which were similar to those worn by the Princeton Tigers.[/quote]

    So, they are named after socks?[/quote]

    yeah…imagine that[/quote]

    I don’t usually connect tigers and socks. And I wasn’t saying it was a bad thing.[/quote]

    Stripes on the socks. Looked like another team’s socks. Guy liked Princeton. They’re the Tigers.

    Word association.[/quote]

    Oh, I got it. It’s just not my usual connection.

  • joe | January 15, 2008 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”203381″][quote comment=”203362″][quote comment=”203270″][quote comment=”203252″][quote comment=”203245″][quote comment=”203213″]Heads up logo creepers…this going to be a doozy…

    http://chicagobusine...

    Chicago Fire Gets Jersey Sponsor

    (Crain’s) — Best Buy Co. has signed on to be the first jersey sponsor for the Chicago Fire, a deal that could inject millions to the unprofitable soccer team.

    Team officials and representatives of Best Buy, which is based in suburban Minneapolis, are scheduled to debut the new jersey Tuesday afternoon at a Burbank Best Buy store. Details of the sponsorship are being kept under wraps until the official unveiling, a Chicago Fire spokeswoman said.

    Chicago Fire general manager John Guppy has said he was looking for a multi-year $2.5-million deal for the front of the jersey. If the team landed that amount, it would help offset its three-year contract with Cuauhtémoc Blanco, a Mexican soccer star who has been a winning addition for the team in terms of its record and financial haul. Mr. Blanco’s contract guarantees him $2.67 million in the first year.[/quote]

    If this is how MLS has to roll, so be it.[/quote]

    Thank God. Seriously. I love soccer, and without jersey sponsors they(MLS teams) really can’t compete for players like the bigger clubs, overseas, that embraced it years ago. Hypocritical as it may be, I might have a heart attack when the day comes that an NBA, NFL or MLB teams does this, but I welcome it to the MLS. More money=better players=better product=more fans=more money….so on and so forth. And hey, at least the sponsor is a business I’ve heard of unlike XanGo or Comex.[/quote]

    Can’t wait until the days where we see BIMBO plastered across one of the club’s jerseys![/quote]

    nah bimbo already does “real” soccer teams in mexico.[/quote]

    Clearly, you’re not a soccer fan. Google samsung and soccer jersey, see how many come up.[/quote]

    no, im not a soccer fan, I prefer good sports. I was just saying that Bimbo already has sponsorships with “real” soccer teams not the US garbage MLS teams that the rest of the world ignores. Why would Bimbo go slumming in the US for sponsorship when they are already in the “big leagues”

  • KT | January 15, 2008 at 4:03 pm |
  • KT | January 15, 2008 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”203394″]no, im not a soccer fan, I prefer good sports. I was just saying that Bimbo already has sponsorships with “real” soccer teams not the US garbage MLS teams that the rest of the world ignores. Why would Bimbo go slumming in the US for sponsorship when they are already in the “big leagues”[/quote]

    2-0.

    Thanks for playing.

  • Justin B | January 15, 2008 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”203398″]Chicago Fire’s new jerseys.

    Ick.[/quote]

    Maybe they could be The Chicago Best Buy. Since the “fire” isn’t even there.

  • KT | January 15, 2008 at 4:09 pm |

    As to the bigger point, Bimbo is a bread that isn’t really marketed hard in the US, so whether or not our teams are “garbage,” it wouldn’t be worthwhile for them to advertise in America.

    Club America, yes. The United States of America, no.

    That’s the actual response. Not the Mexican fanboy asshole response. Next time you beat us anywhere but Azteca, we’ll talk.

  • KT | January 15, 2008 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”203401″][quote comment=”203398″]Chicago Fire’s new jerseys.

    Ick.[/quote]

    Maybe they could be The Chicago Best Buy. Since the “fire” isn’t even there.[/quote]

    The badge is. That’s the way soccer teams do it, usually. MLS teams have had team or city (or both) names on the fronts of their shirts since 1996.

    As sponsors have taken over the front, it’s become just sponsor and badge, as in most of the rest of the world.

  • Justin B | January 15, 2008 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”203405″][quote comment=”203401″][quote comment=”203398″]Chicago Fire’s new jerseys.

    Ick.[/quote]

    Maybe they could be The Chicago Best Buy. Since the “fire” isn’t even there.[/quote]

    The badge is. That’s the way soccer teams do it, usually. MLS teams have had team or city (or both) names on the fronts of their shirts since 1996.

    As sponsors have taken over the front, it’s become just sponsor and badge, as in most of the rest of the world.[/quote]

    I suppose if it can help make the sport competitive with the rest of the world. Or at least closer.

  • Anthony Verna | January 15, 2008 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”203394″]
    no, im not a soccer fan, I prefer good sports. I was just saying that Bimbo already has sponsorships with “real” soccer teams not the US garbage MLS teams that the rest of the world ignores. Why would Bimbo go slumming in the US for sponsorship when they are already in the “big leagues”[/quote]

    Gee, joe, I don’t know. Maybe it’s because in heavily Latin communities (like where I live), the local grocery store has many products made by Bimbo.

  • William Harrison | January 15, 2008 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”203197″]Seeing the Rich Rodriguez Michigan jersey reminded me of something I wanted to look into: hockey jerseys with diagonal lettering. It has to be among my favorite type of jerseys. Obviously The Rangers have done this forever and when they use to wear the 3rd jersey it disapointed me. Pittsburgh had a road jersey in the 90’s and I think Colorado has an alternate jersey that does it. I willing to bet like Michigan their are countless other schools that do it and their maybe some other NHL ones I don’t know about. Anybody have any examples?[/quote]

    UMass-Lowell used to have diagonal-lettered jerseys (very similar to the NHL’s Rangers, but a different font), but alas they have moved away from them.

    I can’t find a pic, but I have one at home, so if I get a chance…

    Also recall when they were known as ULowell, back in their Division II championship days, they were the Chiefs, and had a sweet stylized headress logo. I wish I could find one of those around…

  • LI Phil | January 15, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”203411″][quote comment=”203394″]
    no, im not a soccer fan, I prefer good sports. I was just saying that Bimbo already has sponsorships with “real” soccer teams not the US garbage MLS teams that the rest of the world ignores. Why would Bimbo go slumming in the US for sponsorship when they are already in the “big leagues”[/quote]

    Gee, joe, I don’t know. Maybe it’s because in heavily Latin communities (like where I live), the local grocery store has many products made by Bimbo.[/quote]

    funny tie-in to recent comments…

    i was in TJMaxx over the weekend looking for compression shorts and there were a SHITLOAD of bimbo footy kit tops on the discount rack…almost bought one…not quite as great a find as the priest S3W7OH jersey, but gave me a chuckle

  • Justin B | January 15, 2008 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”203413″][quote comment=”203197″]Seeing the Rich Rodriguez Michigan jersey reminded me of something I wanted to look into: hockey jerseys with diagonal lettering. It has to be among my favorite type of jerseys. Obviously The Rangers have done this forever and when they use to wear the 3rd jersey it disapointed me. Pittsburgh had a road jersey in the 90’s and I think Colorado has an alternate jersey that does it. I willing to bet like Michigan their are countless other schools that do it and their maybe some other NHL ones I don’t know about. Anybody have any examples?[/quote]

    UMass-Lowell used to have diagonal-lettered jerseys (very similar to the NHL’s Rangers, but a different font), but alas they have moved away from them.

    I can’t find a pic, but I have one at home, so if I get a chance…

    Also recall when they were known as ULowell, back in their Division II championship days, they were the Chiefs, and had a sweet stylized headress logo. I wish I could find one of those around…[/quote]

    Some purple and some diagonal.

  • Pat | January 15, 2008 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”203398″]Chicago Fire’s new jerseys.

    Ick.[/quote]

    True that. There are good ways to go about placing a corporate brand on your jersey. And then there is the way Fire went about doing it.

  • Will | January 15, 2008 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”203400″][quote comment=”203394″]no, im not a soccer fan, I prefer good sports. I was just saying that Bimbo already has sponsorships with “real” soccer teams not the US garbage MLS teams that the rest of the world ignores. Why would Bimbo go slumming in the US for sponsorship when they are already in the “big leagues”[/quote]

    2-0.

    Thanks for playing.[/quote]

    You forgot that 2-1 is the new 2-0.

  • joe | January 15, 2008 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”203411″][quote comment=”203394″]
    no, im not a soccer fan, I prefer good sports. I was just saying that Bimbo already has sponsorships with “real” soccer teams not the US garbage MLS teams that the rest of the world ignores. Why would Bimbo go slumming in the US for sponsorship when they are already in the “big leagues”[/quote]

    Gee, joe, I don’t know. Maybe it’s because in heavily Latin communities (like where I live), the local grocery store has many products made by Bimbo.[/quote]

    then since you know that, they really don’t have to advertise to you do they?

  • Will | January 15, 2008 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”203421″][quote comment=”203398″]Chicago Fire’s new jerseys.

    Ick.[/quote]

    True that. There are good ways to go about placing a corporate brand on your jersey. And then there is the way Fire went about doing it.[/quote]
    Also, I don’t see how the Fire went about it wrongly. The corporate lettering stays within the color scheme of the team, and is only in plain text. Just think, we could have a giant yellow tag plastered on the front.

    I am very happy for the switch from the stupid concave band to the correct square band across the front as well.

  • joe | January 15, 2008 at 4:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”203402″]As to the bigger point, Bimbo is a bread that isn’t really marketed hard in the US, so whether or not our teams are “garbage,” it wouldn’t be worthwhile for them to advertise in America.

    Club America, yes. The United States of America, no.

    That’s the actual response. Not the Mexican fanboy asshole response. Next time you beat us anywhere but Azteca, we’ll talk.[/quote]

    Mexican fanboy?? Learn to get the point, any major soccer league is better than MLS. The US league is internationally a young eage without established strength. It *is* an inferior league to other nations top level leagues. I happen to know that Bimbo sponsors in the mexican leagues. The only point to making the original statement way that they are already in a superior league, in a market where they are known of (mexico). I could have as easily said the italian or english leagues but I don’t know (doubt) that they are sponsors over there.

  • patrick | January 15, 2008 at 4:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”203394″][quote comment=”203381″][quote comment=”203362″][quote comment=”203270″][quote comment=”203252″][quote comment=”203245″][quote comment=”203213″]Heads up logo creepers…this going to be a doozy…

    http://chicagobusine...

    Chicago Fire Gets Jersey Sponsor

    (Crain’s) — Best Buy Co. has signed on to be the first jersey sponsor for the Chicago Fire, a deal that could inject millions to the unprofitable soccer team.

    Team officials and representatives of Best Buy, which is based in suburban Minneapolis, are scheduled to debut the new jersey Tuesday afternoon at a Burbank Best Buy store. Details of the sponsorship are being kept under wraps until the official unveiling, a Chicago Fire spokeswoman said.

    Chicago Fire general manager John Guppy has said he was looking for a multi-year $2.5-million deal for the front of the jersey. If the team landed that amount, it would help offset its three-year contract with Cuauhtémoc Blanco, a Mexican soccer star who has been a winning addition for the team in terms of its record and financial haul. Mr. Blanco’s contract guarantees him $2.67 million in the first year.[/quote]

    If this is how MLS has to roll, so be it.[/quote]

    Thank God. Seriously. I love soccer, and without jersey sponsors they(MLS teams) really can’t compete for players like the bigger clubs, overseas, that embraced it years ago. Hypocritical as it may be, I might have a heart attack when the day comes that an NBA, NFL or MLB teams does this, but I welcome it to the MLS. More money=better players=better product=more fans=more money….so on and so forth. And hey, at least the sponsor is a business I’ve heard of unlike XanGo or Comex.[/quote]

    Can’t wait until the days where we see BIMBO plastered across one of the club’s jerseys![/quote]

    nah bimbo already does “real” soccer teams in mexico.[/quote]

    Clearly, you’re not a soccer fan. Google samsung and soccer jersey, see how many come up.[/quote]

    no, im not a soccer fan, I prefer good sports. I was just saying that Bimbo already has sponsorships with “real” soccer teams not the US garbage MLS teams that the rest of the world ignores. Why would Bimbo go slumming in the US for sponsorship when they are already in the “big leagues”[/quote]

    Joe, your confessed lack of interest in soccer is the problem. 1) the mexican league is hardly a ‘big league” as you put it. Are they bigger than MLS? absolutely. However, Bimbo also does a lot of business in the US. (its been discussed on here before) so wouldnt it be a great idea to get FC dallas or Houston?? If its so cheap, it’d be great advertising. Bash the MLS all you want, a lot of it is deserved, but to say that bimbo wouldnt waste their time because they have a team in mexico? Bimbo is a brand, and its not just limited to mexico. Sicne thats the case, why not make the advertising investment in the US? SInce you think Mexico is such a big league im sure the cost of advertising compared to mexico would be peanuts.

  • patrick | January 15, 2008 at 4:47 pm |

    oh, and also Joe:

    http://www.bimbobake...

    so much for that theory….

  • Kool Mar-T | January 15, 2008 at 4:49 pm |

    Does anyone else lay awake at night worrying about the effect age has on one’s concept of “acceptable” uniform design?
    Would I readily accept the horrific helmet stripes sported by the Titans, Ravens and Panthers if I was born after 1990?
    Would I so easily accept and greatly appreciate the Bengals helmet design if it had come out today?
    Does the fact that I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s impact my take on modern day designs?
    I hope not. I would like to believe that every notion I subscribe to is somewhat of a “natural truth”.
    I’m not very good at this blogging thing.
    Am I a waste… of space?
    Do I have time… to rhyme?

  • joe | January 15, 2008 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”203381″]
    nah bimbo already does “real” soccer teams in mexico.[/quote]

    Clearly, you’re not a soccer fan. Google samsung and soccer jersey, see how many come up.[/quote]

    WTF does samsung being a soccer sponsor have to do with bimbo bakeries sponsoring a team in mexico? Learn to get the point.

  • E_Ro | January 15, 2008 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”203292″]
    Don’t know where in Kentucky you are E-Ro, but, the University of Kentucky does have a hockey team, it is currently ranked 11th in Southeast Division of the ACHA, and they have put out some nice posters to support the team.

    P.S. The 1999-2000 poster is my wife’s cousin.[/quote]

    haha I do love those posters, I see them in party stores and bars in Michigan even. ACHA just isn’t a high enough skill level to pay money to watch. It’s too bad the Thoroughblades still aren’t in Lexington… Wait nevermind.

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | January 15, 2008 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”203384″][quote comment=”203292″][quote comment=”203285″][quote comment=”203274″]Hockey is huge at Michigan. Games are raucous and tickets are hard to come by. Nice to see that coach Rodriguez is fitting in so well. Of course he was probably wearing the jersey because he was going to be the contestant at Score-O that night. [/quote]

    That was the first Michigan game at Yost I had to miss after graduating. sniff Now I have to move to hockey-less Kentucky.[/quote]

    Don’t know where in Kentucky you are E-Ro, but, the University of Kentucky does have a hockey team, it is currently ranked 11th in Southeast Division of the ACHA, and they have put out some nice posters to support the team.

    P.S. The 1999-2000 poster is my wife’s cousin.[/quote]

    I have been in love with your cousin then for years :)[/quote]

    I don’t blame you one little bit. And, to make matters worse for you, she’s a real nice person.

  • Dan King | January 15, 2008 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”203398″]Chicago Fire’s new jerseys.

    Ick.[/quote]
    Its better than what I thought it would be. I was thinking it’d be the yellow price tag logo on the front. So at least they’re sticking with the teams colors.

    William Harrison– are you from Lowell? Because i know quite a few people from around there and i also thought it strange that you have the same name as my grandfather.

  • GoTerriers | January 15, 2008 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”203443″][quote comment=”203398″]Chicago Fire’s new jerseys.

    Ick.[/quote]
    Its better than what I thought it would be. I was thinking it’d be the yellow price tag logo on the front. So at least they’re sticking with the teams colors.

    William Harrison– are you from Lowell? Because i know quite a few people from around there and i also thought it strange that you have the same name as my grandfather.[/quote]
    And the name of our 9th President (though he was from Virginia) . . .

  • joe | January 15, 2008 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”203431″]

    Joe, your confessed lack of interest in soccer is the problem. 1) the mexican league is hardly a ‘big league” as you put it. Are they bigger than MLS? absolutely. However, Bimbo also does a lot of business in the US. (its been discussed on here before) so wouldnt it be a great idea to get FC dallas or Houston?? If its so cheap, it’d be great advertising. Bash the MLS all you want, a lot of it is deserved, but to say that bimbo wouldnt waste their time because they have a team in mexico? Bimbo is a brand, and its not just limited to mexico. Sicne thats the case, why not make the advertising investment in the US? SInce you think Mexico is such a big league im sure the cost of advertising compared to mexico would be peanuts.[/quote]

    and as you even stated, compared to the MLS mexico is a big league. its not on par with the major euro leagues, but its head and shoulders above the MLS. I know bimbo is in the US, I live outside of chicago and have gotten their bread (looks like wonder bread). The point is they are already in a bigger league and can use their $$$ elsewhere in better ways.

  • rc | January 15, 2008 at 5:04 pm |

    Holy Logo! Who do you think makes these new soccer boots?

  • JoeS | January 15, 2008 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”203452″]Holy Logo! Who do you think makes these new soccer boots?[/quote]
    I’m getting used to the word “kit”, but I always chuckle when people say “boots“. These are what I think of when I hear boots.

  • GoTerriers | January 15, 2008 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”203455″][quote comment=”203452″]Holy Logo! Who do you think makes these new soccer boots?[/quote]
    I’m getting used to the word “kit”, but I always chuckle when people say “boots“. These are what I think of when I hear boots.[/quote]
    That’s funny . . .THIS is what (who) I think of!

  • LI Phil | January 15, 2008 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”203455″][quote comment=”203452″]Holy Logo! Who do you think makes these new soccer boots?[/quote]
    I’m getting used to the word “kit”, but I always chuckle when people say “boots“. These are what I think of when I hear boots.[/quote]

    no no

    these boots are made for walkin

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 5:32 pm |

    LI Phil,

    As usual, you have made my day!
    I knew I’d hear or see something about YOKO ROMO today!

  • LI Phil | January 15, 2008 at 5:35 pm |

    well…matt,

    thanks to you, the terminator calendar made mine

  • Dane | January 15, 2008 at 5:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”203350″]http://www.uaicecats.com/homep.html

    Having a cactus on a hockey sweater seems blasphemous![/quote]

    I beg your pardon!

    FYI – that’s my membership profile picture. I need to update that with my RBK Edge jersey.

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 5:36 pm |

    Touche, my Nassau/Suffolk friend

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 5:40 pm |

    Dane…you wear it well!
    I rescind my former statement and extend this olive branch in apology:

    http://img19.imagesh...

    You look almost as good as this hockey player from Phil’s neck o’ the woods

  • Dan King | January 15, 2008 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”203448″][quote comment=”203443″][quote comment=”203398″]Chicago Fire’s new jerseys.

    Ick.[/quote]
    Its better than what I thought it would be. I was thinking it’d be the yellow price tag logo on the front. So at least they’re sticking with the teams colors.

    William Harrison– are you from Lowell? Because i know quite a few people from around there and i also thought it strange that you have the same name as my grandfather.[/quote]
    And the name of our 9th President (though he was from Virginia) . . .[/quote]
    i know seeing as how he’s my ancestor, and his grandson who was also president, both lived in Ohio at one point, where I live.

  • Duckstyle187 | January 15, 2008 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”203450″][quote comment=”203431″]

    Joe, your confessed lack of interest in soccer is the problem. 1) the mexican league is hardly a ‘big league” as you put it. Are they bigger than MLS? absolutely. However, Bimbo also does a lot of business in the US. (its been discussed on here before) so wouldnt it be a great idea to get FC dallas or Houston?? If its so cheap, it’d be great advertising. Bash the MLS all you want, a lot of it is deserved, but to say that bimbo wouldnt waste their time because they have a team in mexico? Bimbo is a brand, and its not just limited to mexico. Sicne thats the case, why not make the advertising investment in the US? SInce you think Mexico is such a big league im sure the cost of advertising compared to mexico would be peanuts.[/quote]

    and as you even stated, compared to the MLS mexico is a big league. its not on par with the major euro leagues, but its head and shoulders above the MLS. I know bimbo is in the US, I live outside of chicago and have gotten their bread (looks like wonder bread). The point is they are already in a bigger league and can use their $$$ elsewhere in better ways.[/quote]

    If the Mexican is so head-and-shoulders above the MLS, then why did the bottom dweeling LA Galaxy take Pachua to penalty kicks in the SuperLiga? Is the league better overall, most likely, but it probably won’t be within 5 years. Your point of Bimbo’s money being better spent in Mexico is obvious, didn’t need to be brought up, and isn’t being argued. But just because there’s more return in one market doesn’t mean you completly skip another. Like the previous poster siad, FC Dallas or another border team.

    As far as the new Fire Jersey. Only half bad. No big yellow Best Buy tag=good. Not having the stripe wrap around, or least having it accented in way that it doesn’t look awkard=crap. Yes, I actually liked the design from last year.

  • Dane | January 15, 2008 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”203470″]Dane…you wear it well!
    I rescind my former statement and extend this olive branch in apology:

    http://img19.imagesh...

    You look almost as good as this hockey player from Phil’s neck o’ the woods[/quote]

    Just follow my system – a strict, regimented diet of buffalo wings and Krispy Kreme – and maybe you can achieve the same results.

    Dare to dream!

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 6:04 pm |

    The John Lennon baseball jersey mystery reminded me of something yesterday! If you want to see a very eclectic mixture of vintage baseball uniforms, look no further than the home of Guy Le Douche and Bulemia Babaganoosh:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Most Extreme Elimination Challenge

    Seriously, the contestants are always wearing some funky old baseball unis, complete with PL’s favorites…the stirrups

  • Alex | January 15, 2008 at 6:10 pm |

    Pretty cool detailing i found.
    Carolina Hurricanes goalie cam ward has his name engraved on the cage of his mask.
    http://akamai.edeal....

  • Bob A | January 15, 2008 at 6:14 pm |

    Wow, a Stan Lomax reference. I remember his great voice doing sports on WOR every evening while I waited for my Dad to get home with the late afternoon papers. Thanks for rekindling some fond memories, Paul.

  • LI Phil | January 15, 2008 at 6:34 pm |
  • Matty B | January 15, 2008 at 7:12 pm |

    Pistons have a nice little montage of old uniforms on their ‘splash’ page

    Check out the socks

  • KC | January 15, 2008 at 7:45 pm |

    All this talk about logo creep in soccer is missing a very important point. Soccer games do not show commercials during play. I am happy to trade a little logo in the corner of the screen, boards around the field and a logo on the jersey for not having to see a commercical every few minutes. Much less annoying than the NFL style of having a score, a commercial, a kickoff, and another commercial.

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 8:13 pm |

    Pistons have a nice little montage of old uniforms on their ’splash’ page

    Check out the socks

    Did you notice the pic with Isiah Thomas. Danny Ainge is guarding him. Imagine if they could have foreseen their own professional futures for a split second!

  • James Craven | January 15, 2008 at 9:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”203509″]“Pistons have a nice little montage of old uniforms on their ’splash’ page.

    Check out the socks.”

    “Did you notice the pic with Isiah Thomas. Danny Ainge is guarding him. Imagine if they could have foreseen their own professional futures for a split second!”[/quote]

    And lest Bostonians forget McFilthy and McNasty, not pictured.

  • Original Jim | January 15, 2008 at 9:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”203413″]UMass-Lowell used to have diagonal-lettered jerseys (very similar to the NHL’s Rangers, but a different font), but alas they have moved away from them.

    I can’t find a pic, but I have one at home, so if I get a chance…[/quote]

    I wore my blue UMass-Lowell jersey to the Uni Watch get-together in Boston. Here is a picture of it: http://img.photobuck...

  • Mike P. | January 15, 2008 at 9:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”203295″][quote comment=”203255″]Before Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith cam out in theaters, George Lucas sponsored a F1 race car. Check out the awesome design of the pit crew helmets here.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”203279″]Hartford rocking the diagonal lettering as well.

    (A week on Uni-Watch without bringing up AHL sweaters? Impossible!)[/quote]

    Not only do the Wolpack have the diagonal lettering but also some logo creep there by The Hartford Insurance Company[/quote]

    That Insurance company logo was placed in the picture… They would not have sewn on a patch that badly…

  • Bob H | January 15, 2008 at 9:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”203507″]All this talk about logo creep in soccer is missing a very important point. Soccer games do not show commercials during play. I am happy to trade a little logo in the corner of the screen, boards around the field and a logo on the jersey for not having to see a commercical every few minutes. Much less annoying than the NFL style of having a score, a commercial, a kickoff, and another commercial.[/quote]
    I second that motion.

  • Mike P. | January 15, 2008 at 9:33 pm |

    Are they really coming out with a grey NY Giants jersey????

  • felix | January 15, 2008 at 10:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”203310″][..snip]
    Paul’s “Crazy Eddie” reference reminded me of this: “If nobody comes down here and buys a car in the next hour, I’m gonna club this baby seal!

    If anyone knows the source of that line, keep it to yourself, ’cause you might be an even bigger loser than I am.[/quote]

    I believe we are equals in the loser brotherhood then. “Free toy inside! Free toy inside!”

  • LakerPride | January 15, 2008 at 10:03 pm |

    i must say, jay’s ass shot was completely gratuitous. yes, jay, you have a large ass, but try to keep it to yourself.

  • LI Phil | January 15, 2008 at 10:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”203538″][quote comment=”203310″][..snip]
    Paul’s “Crazy Eddie” reference reminded me of this: “If nobody comes down here and buys a car in the next hour, I’m gonna club this baby seal!

    If anyone knows the source of that line, keep it to yourself, ’cause you might be an even bigger loser than I am.[/quote]

    I believe we are equals in the loser brotherhood then. “Free toy inside! Free toy inside!”[/quote]

    you know i’ll do it too

  • conq | January 15, 2008 at 10:23 pm |

    Regarding the darker Carolina blue in the Marquette pic, could it simply be the lighting or some other factor affecting the way the color is reproduced? Judging from these two photos of Jerry Stackhouse, you can see quite a bit of variation in how the same blue is represented in photographs:

    http://bp1.blogger.c...

    http://cache.viewima...

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 10:27 pm |

    [..snip]
    Paul’s “Crazy Eddie” reference reminded me of this: “If nobody comes down here and buys a car in the next hour, I’m gonna club this baby seal!“

    If anyone knows the source of that line, keep it to yourself, ’cause you might be an even bigger loser than I am.

    I believe we are equals in the loser brotherhood then. “Free toy inside! Free toy inside!”

    you know i’ll do it too

    I’m usually good with movielines…but I am totally lost!

    Speaking of films and Notre Dame…Has anybody ever noticed in “Rudy” how similar Georgia Tech’s unifroms are to Army’s? Bobby Ross have anything to do with this?

    Here’s the real pic…big difference:
    http://static.zoovy....

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 10:32 pm |

    http://bp1.blogger.c...

    I remember those Rasheed Wallace era unis. Those were the authentics that Nike sold for the briefest of moments. I missed out on them but ended up finding the navy Michigan shorts that the fab five wore in the ncaa final against Duke their freshman year.

    The mesh that they used did seem darker. Look at the waistband on Stack’s shorts.The contrast between the navy and the carolina isn’t that stark!

  • Josh | January 15, 2008 at 10:40 pm |

    Guess I didn’t close the tag. Sorry.

  • LI Phil | January 15, 2008 at 10:54 pm |
  • SoCalPVguy | January 15, 2008 at 10:56 pm |

    Re. The NASCAR fight photo…
    If it hasn’t been alrady identified, that is legendary driver Cale Yarborough kicking the also legendary Bobby Allison, on theleft. To the extreme left, trying to support his “Alambama gang” brother is well know driver, Donnie Allison.

    While racing for the lead on the last lap, Donnie Allison and Cale Yarborough crashed on the backstretch. As Richard Petty cruised onto a surprising victory, both drivers climbed out of their cars. With their chances of winning the biggest event in the sport, their tempers boiled over. Within moments, Yarborough and Allison were in a fist-and-helmet fight. To makes matters worse Bobby Allison arrived on scene to help brother Donnie. By the time the fight was broken up, all three drivers were a mess and NASCAR was the talk of the nation. The image of “brawling rednecks” oddly worked to bring more fans into the sport. NASCAR, realizing the boon in popularity due to the incident, lightly punished the drivers.

    “For some reason, Cale repeatedly hit his nose on my fist” – Bobby Allison

  • Matt Powers | January 15, 2008 at 11:08 pm |

    Phil, do you work from home?

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | January 15, 2008 at 11:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”203428″][quote comment=”203421″][quote comment=”203398″]Chicago Fire’s new jerseys.

    Ick.[/quote]

    True that. There are good ways to go about placing a corporate brand on your jersey. And then there is the way Fire went about doing it.[/quote]
    Also, I don’t see how the Fire went about it wrongly. The corporate lettering stays within the color scheme of the team, and is only in plain text. Just think, we could have a giant yellow tag plastered on the front.

    I am very happy for the switch from the stupid concave band to the correct square band across the front as well.[/quote]

    They still look ehhh…I liked their inaugural uni’s made by Nike, their uni’s made by Puma weren’t bad either.

  • LI Phil | January 15, 2008 at 11:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”203559″]Phil, do you work from home?[/quote]

    short answer…no…

    my PO lets me leave to go to work, although i am required to keep my ankle bracelet on…and im not allowed within 100 ft of schools

    srsly…paul has my email addy…feel free to contact me that way

  • LI Phil | January 16, 2008 at 12:18 am |
  • Matt Powers | January 16, 2008 at 12:41 am |

    And to all a good night!

    I’ve got to wake up at 5 for Spin class and Boot camp:

    http://www.xtremeboo...

    Later

  • William Harrison | January 16, 2008 at 6:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”203443″][quote comment=”203398″]Chicago Fire’s new jerseys.

    Ick.[/quote]
    Its better than what I thought it would be. I was thinking it’d be the yellow price tag logo on the front. So at least they’re sticking with the teams colors.

    William Harrison– are you from Lowell? Because i know quite a few people from around there and i also thought it strange that you have the same name as my grandfather.[/quote]

    Sorry for the lateness, you probably will not get this.

    Yes, from Lowell now, grew up in the area, but not in Lowell itself; walking distance from the rink ULowell played their games way back when.

    My grandfather and father also had the same name, but I do not know anyone outside my family by that name.

    Oh, and I was forced to do many reports on our short-lived President by the same name (different middle name) all throughout my school years…

  • Tony Barli | February 15, 2008 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”203187″]Two of those Giants’ helmets have #10 on them, and possibly the one the guy is holding too. Typically how many helmets does the starting QB have available during the game?[/quote]

    Is this Kevin Mericle from the WAC?