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Get Shorty

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Whenever there’s an NBA throwback game, I inevitably get a few e-mails from people complaining that they should have shortened the shorts for maximum retro effect. The Lakers must have been listening, because last night they took the court wearing short shorts, just like in the old days. Unfortunately, they didn’t have the courage of their convictions, because they switched back to full-length shorts in the second half.

So how did it look? Some people have already complained about the compression shorts that were peeking out from beneath many players’ trunks, but that didn’t bother me (especially since compression shorts are often visible on players wearing full-length shorts too). My gripe was that the jerseys were too billowy — they should’ve been tailored snugger, to match the shorts.

For the most part, though, I thought they looked great. Take a look at both teams in this shot — it’s no contest. Same goes here and here.

The key — as always, boys and girls — is the socks. The shorter shorts look dynamite as long as you’ve got some socks covering up some of that lower-body real estate, but this look is problematic.

Once the Lakers went back to the contemporary shorts in the second half (which I think they did just because everyone likes to do that idiotic MJ shorts tug), everything turned predictably sloppy-looking — the baggy look just doesn’t work, people. Memo to David Stern: Make everything two sizes smaller, go buy a Val-U-Pak pack of tube socks, and get back to me in 2008.

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Membership Update: Speaking of the turning of the calendar, if you made a new year’s resolution back in January to join the Uni Watch membership program in 2007 (an unlikely scenario, since the membership program didn’t yet exist in January, but still…) — or if you’d just like to ring out the year on a high note — today’s your last chance.

Meanwhile, there’s a bunch of new designs up for your perusal in the membership card design gallery, including today’s showcase design, which is based, of course, on the back of an Ohio State helmet.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Zazzle is running a 20% sale on all apparel from now through January 7th, making this a good time to snag yourself a Uni Watch T-shirt. … Reprinted from Friday’s comments: Bizarre (and bizarrely appealing) eBay item here. … More eBay stuff: some amazing old basketball unis, vintage sliding pants, an old Wilson baseball uni ad, and an incredible baseball uniform in Uni Watch colors. … Robert Gelles is a neckwear designer. He’s also a daily Uni Watch reader, which explains why his company is selling this (here’s a more detailed view), this (detail), and this (detail). … “This picture is from the 3A Texas High School football State Championship game,” writes Tory Humphries. “The orange team is the Celina Bobcats, and the word on their socks is ‘Bobcats.’ ” … I knew the Dodgers were wearing a 50th-anniversary patch next season, but I didn’t know what each element of the patch symbolized until Austin Chung sent me this. … Jim Burt always stretched his jersey as tight as possible. But Chris Flinn notes that in this shot, it almost looks like his nameplate has been stretched (or, more likely, they spaced out the lettering to match his stretch-spaced number). … According to the last paragraph of this item, Syracuse will have new football uniforms next season (so what else is new?). … Ever seen a hockey player wearing eye black? I never had, until Cullan Foote sent me this 1967 shot of Kent Douglas. … Several readers noted that Maryland’s punter was wearing a yarmulke during the Emerald Bowl. … If you skip to the halfway point of this video clip, you’ll see BYU kicker Mitch Payne peeling the “Y” logo off his helmet to give to a young fan at the conclusion of the Las Vegas Bowl (with thanks to Chris Flinn). … Ryan Perkins reports that the NFL Network ran a commercial with this image prior to Saturday’s Giants/Pats game. Too bad the Colts no longer wear white facemasks. … Totally bizarre gold shorts stripe being worn by one of the teams in the BJ League (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm, who also passed along some frightening pics from the Master League, the league for retired Japanese baseball players — look here, here, and here, ). … No sooner did I write about basketball players wearing sleeves than Evansville broke out their old sleeved jerseys on Saturday night. Details here. … “The 1988 A’s had a pitcher named Todd Burns,” writes John English. “He wore No. 54, and for some reason his uni numbers were different from everyone else’s on the club. The 4s were thicker and the 5s looked like upside-down 2s [as opposed to this]. This has bugged me for 20 years and while I don’t expect anyone else will know why this happened, it doesn’t hurt to ask.” … Bryan Widell reports that Manchester City captain Richard Dunne had problems with peeling numerals on Sunday. … Buried on this page is the following tidbit of Pittsburgh Pirates news: “The gold ‘P’ on the Pirates’ cap suddenly is taking the place of the angry, bearded pirate on just about all of the team’s printed matter.” Let’s hope this is the beginning of the end for the pirate logo, who’s always struck me as too cartoon-ish (good catch by Timothy Collins). … The Penguins’ goalies plan to wear old-school brown gear for tomorrow’s Winter Classic game. Details here (with thanks to Steve Laga). … And according to an item on this page, Penguins execs “are so pleased with the look of the retro-themed uniforms the club will wear in the AMP Energy NHL Winter Classic on New Year’s Day that the Penguins will seek permission to make that design their alternate look [next season]” (as spotted by Mike Reilly). … Reprinted from Sunday’s comments: Several people have mentioned to me that Daryl Johnston was forced to wear a Packers helmet during the 1994 Pro Bowl, after his own helmet was stolen. But I’d never seen visual confirmation until Nolan Brett came up with this. I’m gonna see if my ESPN photo editor can get us a full-size version. … Good view here of Vince Young’s blue chinstrap cozy, which is team-branded. … And we close out the year with a communiqué from Miguel Durón, the winner of our last raffle. He chose an Earl Campbell-era Texas Longhorns helmet from Gridiron Memories as his prize. “Here‘s a pic of my 18-month-old daughter rocking it,” he writes. “She looks much cuter with it on than I do.” That’s so damn adorable, I’m not even gonna say anything about the purple shirt. Everyone have a happy and healthy holiday, and remember, New Year’s Eve is for amateurs.

 

100 comments to Get Shorty

  • kings33 | December 31, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    [quote]Let’s hope this is the beginning of the end for the pirate logo, who’s always struck me as two cartoon-ish[/quote]

    “Two”? Should be “too”

  • Ryan B. | December 31, 2007 at 9:41 am |

    I have always loved Evansville’s sleeved uniforms, and I was very sad when they ditched them (I think sometime around 2002 or so) for the more standard style uniform.

    Very cool to see them in the sleeved uniforms again.

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2007 at 9:44 am |

    the bit about the pirate logo got me thinking…about how “he” has evolved over the years…

    1936-47-mustache, 1948-59-w/beard(?), 1960-67-stubble & eyebatch, 1968-86-clean shaven, sans patch, 1987-96-back to ’36, and now 1997-pres.-doo rag, goatee, & patch

  • Rob | December 31, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    I didn’t check to see if it was mentioned yesterday. But they talked at length about Moose Johnston’s missing helmet at the Pro Bowl during the Fox broadcast yesterday (Probably what provoked someone to find a picture).

    Also in the same game, they showed a quick shot of Detroit Lion backup defensive tackle Langston Moore during the game. It appeared as if the front of his jersey from his shoulder pads down to his waist was was ripped in half.

  • Mark M | December 31, 2007 at 9:55 am |

    Today’s Pittsburgh Post Gazette notes that Ty Conklin is going to start in goal for the Penguins tomorrow so we may not see the brown retro pads.

    Also, in the Penguins Q&A on the Post Gazette website the Penguin’s beat writer suggests that the retro look for the game will be a third jersey next year for the Pens (last item)

    PG Pens Q&A

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2007 at 9:59 am |

    reprinted from today’s ticker:

    [quote]And according to an item on this page, Penguins execs “are so pleased with the look of the retro-themed uniforms the club will wear in the AMP Energy NHL Winter Classic on New Year’s Day that the Penguins will seek permission to make that design their alternate look [next season]” (as spotted by Mike Reilly). … Reprinted from Sunday’s comments: Several people have mentioned to me that Daryl Johnston was forced to wear a Packers helmet during the 1994 Pro Bowl, after his own helmet was stolen. But I’d never seen visual confirmation until Nolan Brett came up with this. I’m gonna see if my ESPN photo editor can get us a full-size version. … [/quote]

    /just sayin

  • Tony Miller | December 31, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    I showed the pic of the Evansville jerseys to my brother, and his first response was “those are weird.” Amazing how some people think “normal” is the only correct way to go.

  • NateL | December 31, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    Anybody else think Sid Bream was perfect to play for the Pirates in those days? He looked an awful lot like that logo.

  • Kevin M. | December 31, 2007 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”195463″]Anybody else think Sid Bream was perfect to play for the Pirates in those days? He looked an awful lot like that logo.[/quote]

    Ah Sid Bream. The only way I think of him is his slow ass rounding the bases and getting to home safe and then throwing the Pirates into decades of losing baseball.

  • Mark in Cincy | December 31, 2007 at 10:07 am |

    i must compliment today’s membership card. for Christmas, my wife declared her intention to purchase a membership for me. she didn’t go ahead and purchase the membership because she didn’t know what design to get me . . . i told her that i would do the back of the Buckeye helmet; looks like someone beat me to it

  • Ben63 | December 31, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    I think Vince Young’s chinstrap thing is the same as the belt cover. Possible??

  • FC | December 31, 2007 at 10:09 am |

    Those short shorts and high socks make me vomit. Talk about living in the past…….

  • Rich | December 31, 2007 at 10:14 am |

    I can’t see any of the sportslogos.net links. Anyone else?

  • Joe Drennan | December 31, 2007 at 10:17 am |

    The view of old school goalie equipment brings back memories/nightmares. When I first started playing I wore a waffle board-like blocker. the thing had no protection and it hurt like heck when a puck hit straight on. I also had the old deer hair filled brown leather pads. They looked great, but weighted 5,000 lbs. by the end of the game as they absorbed all the water in the arena. The gloves were nothing more than a glorified first basemans glove.

    Thank goodness I started playing goalie at the end of this era and only wore that kind of stuff for 2 years. I sure do love the new equipment as when a puck does hit, it more tickles than hurts now. I love the old school look, but don’t miss the old school equipment.

  • Mike V. | December 31, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”195461″]reprinted from today’s ticker:

    [quote]And according to an item on this page, Penguins execs “are so pleased with the look of the retro-themed uniforms the club will wear in the AMP Energy NHL Winter Classic on New Year’s Day that the Penguins will seek permission to make that design their alternate look [next season]” (as spotted by Mike Reilly). … Reprinted from Sunday’s comments: Several people have mentioned to me that Daryl Johnston was forced to wear a Packers helmet during the 1994 Pro Bowl, after his own helmet was stolen. But I’d never seen visual confirmation until Nolan Brett came up with this. I’m gonna see if my ESPN photo editor can get us a full-size version. … [/quote]

    /just sayin[/quote]

    A few years ago I got a retro powder blue Pens jersey with Lemieux’s Name and number on the back (and C on front). It was one of only a few usually seen at the igloo. Now, with the winter classic, everyone is sporting the powder blue (usually with Crosby’s Name and Number). Now i have to find a new way to stand out at games. DAMN!!!

  • Tim | December 31, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”195473″]I can’t see any of the sportslogos.net links. Anyone else?[/quote]

    copy and paste it into your address bar or just hit the go button again as the site has disabled hot linking.

  • Jacob | December 31, 2007 at 10:28 am |

    I think Vince Young’s chinstrap thing is the same as the belt cover. Possible??

    Yes it is. You can see the belt cover in the same photo.

  • Rick | December 31, 2007 at 10:31 am |

    Anyone else think it was a bit odd that Pam Oliver during the Skins/Cowboys game was wearing a West Coast Choppers hat?

  • Peter Wunsch | December 31, 2007 at 10:32 am |

    Re: Lakers pics: Do All of the NBA teams put their logos on the bottom of the center-court scoreboards/PA suste,s? Are they changed for NHL teams in dual use arenas?

    I sit up too high in MSG to have ever noticed if the Rangers do this.

  • Mike | December 31, 2007 at 10:33 am |

    Dany Sabourin wore the brown padds during warmups on Saturday’s game vs. Buffalo. Needless to say, he looked very different.

  • The Ol Goaler | December 31, 2007 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”195471″]Those short shorts and high socks make me vomit. Talk about living in the past…….[/quote]
    Now wade-a-minnit!!! As a child of the 1970s, pulling one’s shorts and one’s socks as high as they’d go was de rigieur… and we wore headbands for the same reason “Big Ben” does… to keep the big hair out of our eyes!

  • Minna H. | December 31, 2007 at 10:38 am |

    To me, this was the most aesthetically-pleasing game of the day, if not the year. Ahhhh, I love the red and black….

    Those short-shorts are too short, but the modern day shorts are too long. Somewhere in the middle, please.

    Finally, on NBC Sunday Night Football, I like it when they show the down/yards to go arrow and it’s in the colors of the team with the ball. I don’t know why–I just do.

  • dgc | December 31, 2007 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”195484″]Re: Lakers pics: Do All of the NBA teams put their logos on the bottom of the center-court scoreboards/PA suste,s? Are they changed for NHL teams in dual use arenas?

    I sit up too high in MSG to have ever noticed if the Rangers do this.[/quote]

    The Verizon Center has a Verizon ad for both Caps and Wizards games, IIRC.

  • Mike V. | December 31, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”195477″][quote comment=”195461″]reprinted from today’s ticker:

    [quote]And according to an item on this page, Penguins execs “are so pleased with the look of the retro-themed uniforms the club will wear in the AMP Energy NHL Winter Classic on New Year’s Day that the Penguins will seek permission to make that design their alternate look [next season]” (as spotted by Mike Reilly). … Reprinted from Sunday’s comments: Several people have mentioned to me that Daryl Johnston was forced to wear a Packers helmet during the 1994 Pro Bowl, after his own helmet was stolen. But I’d never seen visual confirmation until Nolan Brett came up with this. I’m gonna see if my ESPN photo editor can get us a full-size version. … [/quote]

    /just sayin[/quote]

    A few years ago I got a retro powder blue Pens jersey with Lemieux’s Name and number on the back (and C on front). It was one of only a few usually seen at the igloo. Now, with the winter classic, everyone is sporting the powder blue (usually with Crosby’s Name and Number). Now i have to find a new way to stand out at games. DAMN!!![/quote]

    I have a little theory about putting current players names on retro jerseys (or, putting players names from one era on jerseys from another). I call it the “20 year rule”. It states that if a player is playing in a current era that is within 20 or so years of the jersey design, then it will look right when the players name and number are on the jersey. However, if the player in question is playing in a era that is more than 25 or so years away/past a jersey era, than it just doesn’t seem to look right when that players name is on there. Case in point, the retro powder blue Pens jersey. Like I said, I have one with Lemieux’s name and number. it looks good (or “right”) with him on there because those were 60’s era jerseys and Lemieux started playing in the mid 80’s (20 or so year difference. On the other hand, the powder blue’s with Crosby’s name and number on the powder blues seem “off”. Why, because Crosby is past the 20 year cut-off. Now, there are mid to late 80’s era Pens jerseys out there with Crosby’s name and number. These look good to me, because its within the 20 year mark. Don’t ask me why I have this theory. I just go by my gut feeling and how things hit my eye.

  • Stuby | December 31, 2007 at 10:50 am |

    Looked like Randy Moss was wearing his standard upside-down 8s on Saturday night. Unfortunately, neither that nor all the records the team has set makes their uniform very interesting. The Patriot uniform falls just below the Bills’ on the ‘Bunch-of-crap-thrown-together-for-no-reason’ scale.

    They should have never changed from this classic look.

  • Patrick | December 31, 2007 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”195494″]Looked like Randy Moss was wearing his standard upside-down 8s on Saturday night. Unfortunately, neither that nor all the records the team has set makes their uniform very interesting. The Patriot uniform falls just below the Bills’ on the ‘Bunch-of-crap-thrown-together-for-no-reason’ scale.

    They should have never changed from this classic look.[/quote]

    Agreed, except I always thought the Pats should have a blue jersey. Pat Patriot himself is wearing a blue coat, and red was obviously the color of the British.

  • Tony | December 31, 2007 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”195483″]Anyone else think it was a bit odd that Pam Oliver during the Skins/Cowboys game was wearing a West Coast Choppers hat?[/quote]

    I think it’s safe to say that Pam likes to ride the hog.

    Ka-chow!

  • dgc | December 31, 2007 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”195491″]

    I have a little theory about putting current players names on retro jerseys (or, putting players names from one era on jerseys from another). I call it the “20 year rule”. It states that if a player is playing in a current era that is within 20 or so years of the jersey design, then it will look right when the players name and number are on the jersey. However, if the player in question is playing in a era that is more than 25 or so years away/past a jersey era, than it just doesn’t seem to look right when that players name is on there. Case in point, the retro powder blue Pens jersey. Like I said, I have one with Lemieux’s name and number. it looks good (or “right”) with him on there because those were 60’s era jerseys and Lemieux started playing in the mid 80’s (20 or so year difference. On the other hand, the powder blue’s with Crosby’s name and number on the powder blues seem “off”. Why, because Crosby is past the 20 year cut-off. Now, there are mid to late 80’s era Pens jerseys out there with Crosby’s name and number. These look good to me, because its within the 20 year mark. Don’t ask me why I have this theory. I just go by my gut feeling and how things hit my eye.[/quote]

    I don’t know about that. There are Caps fans who’ve put Ovechkin’s name and number on the retro Caps jerseys and I think it’s kind of odd. I mean, there’s no way Ovie could’ve ever worn those sweaters so it looks out of place. Kolzig actually has worn the old school RWB so it’s fine for him, but anyone else’s name looks odd with it.

  • Rich | December 31, 2007 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”195478″][quote comment=”195473″]I can’t see any of the sportslogos.net links. Anyone else?[/quote]

    copy and paste it into your address bar or just hit the go button again as the site has disabled hot linking.[/quote]

    ah, got it. Thanks!

  • Eddie Jay | December 31, 2007 at 11:18 am |

    I don’t think the lakers should go back to shorts THAT short, but maybe somewher halfway between those shorts and the current ones, and yea the tops do need to be tighter

  • scott | December 31, 2007 at 11:38 am |

    I wonder if the Pirates using the “P” more often than the cartoon pirate is all about the branding. Sort of like how the Yankees sometime in the 1990s more or less stopped using their top hat logo and made sure the interlocking “NY” was placed on everything.

    I think the Patriots current uniforms are modern without being gaudy. Plus you gotta like that the road uniforms feature striped shocks. While the Patriots red uniforms were nice, too, they unfortunately have a losing stigma attached to them.

  • Jet | December 31, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    Of course the brown goalie pads look great. You’ve just eliminated part of the VISUAL CACOPHONY that is modern hockey…. between the busy new jerseys with their crazy stipes and swooshes… the goalie leg pads with designs in team colors… the advertising on the boards…. it’s all visual overload.

    I got the “Flyers 10 Greatest Games” DVD and was watching the ’74 series against Boston this week. What a difference, visually, from the game of today. So much easier on the eyes. As well as the TV broadcast having nothing more than instant replays — no flashing, noisy,whiz-bang graphics!!!

    Ah, just showing my age, I guess….

    -Jet

  • Ronnie Poore | December 31, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    Hey, that Packers “dickey” on ebay looks familiar. remember that “Ice Bowl” gallery Paul linked to last week? here’s a post game locker room shot of Donny Anderson wearing one:
    http://www.packersne...

  • Smail | December 31, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    What, no Tyson Gentry memorial sticker on the back of that Buckeye helmet?

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | December 31, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”195518″]Take a look at both teams in this shot — it’s no contest. [/quote]

    you’re right. based on the last 15 years of athletic design, the celtics look so much better.

    http://us.i1.yimg.co...

    “but derek, how am i supposed to take you seriously looking like that!?”

  • Paul Lukas | December 31, 2007 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”195519″]What, no Tyson Gentry memorial sticker on the back of that Buckeye helmet?[/quote]

    The member specifically asked not to include any memorial decals, so that the design wouldn’t be tied to any one season.

  • Stuby | December 31, 2007 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”195520″][quote comment=”195518″]Take a look at both teams in this shot — it’s no contest. [/quote]

    you’re right. based on the last 15 years of athletic design, the celtics look so much better.

    http://us.i1.yimg.co...

    “but derek, how am i supposed to take you seriously looking like that!?”[/quote]
    Derek Fisher looks more like a marathon runner than a basketball player in that shot.

  • Paul Lukas | December 31, 2007 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”195520″][quote comment=”195518″]Take a look at both teams in this shot — it’s no contest. [/quote]

    you’re right. based on the last 15 years of athletic design, the celtics look so much better.[/quote]

    Correction — the changes you’re referring to have nothing to do with design. They have to do with fashion. In fact, these changes actually conflict with the world of design, because they (a) run counter to function, and (b) have forced graphics that were intended for a certain tailoring pattern to be extended onto a much longer, extended pattern.

    Whether you like the changes or not, don’t mistake them for anything other than what they are: a fashion trend.

  • My Name is not Earl | December 31, 2007 at 12:18 pm |

    It also seems funny to be selling a retro Pens jersey with Crosby’s name on it, seeing how Crosby was not even alive at the time the jersey was worn (and wouldn’t be alive for quite a few years, for that matter).

    Also, about a week ago, they were showing Atlanta Hawks highlights on Sportscenter. One of the announcers (can’t remember who it was) really didn’t like their new blue road uniforms. He said about three or four times, “they should be wearing red jerseys!”

  • Sirbud | December 31, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    Anyone have screen caps of when Vince Young pooped his pants last night and had to change pants? Steve Mariucci made a joke about it on the NFL network, but I didn’t notice it during the game.

  • Paul Cain | December 31, 2007 at 12:33 pm |

    I wanted to tack on something else about Todd Burns. He pitched for the Rangers after he left Oakland, and I remember every game he pitched with Texas, that he had to adjust his hat after EVERY pitch. It was kind of like Nomar’s fidgeting, but worse; I don’t know if he had a problem with the hat or what. Even the Rangers TV guys at the time, Steve Busby and Jim Sundberg, commented on that on the air.

  • Kek | December 31, 2007 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”195514″]I wonder if the Pirates using the “P” more often than the cartoon pirate is all about the branding. Sort of like how the Yankees sometime in the 1990s more or less stopped using their top hat logo and made sure the interlocking “NY” was placed on everything.

    I think the Patriots current uniforms are modern without being gaudy. Plus you gotta like that the road uniforms feature striped shocks. While the Patriots red uniforms were nice, too, they unfortunately have a losing stigma attached to them.[/quote]
    Very good point about the losing stigma of the Pat Patriot uniform-era. Probably a good reason why you don’t see Buccaneer Bruce making a comeback in Tampa. At least New England wore the throwbacks a few Thanksgivings ago.

    I still think the current Pats’ logo is horrible. I would be OK with the newer colors and silver helmet but use the old logo.

  • gopherboy | December 31, 2007 at 12:48 pm |

    Bears sticker update: Olin Kreutz and Adrian Peterson had minor helmet sticker rips.

  • Pedro | December 31, 2007 at 12:50 pm |

    Reading about the BYU player giving a kid his helmet decal brought back memories…when I was 12 years old (1992) I went to my first USC game at the Coliseum and one of the USC players (leaving the field) took of his Trojan decal and gave it to me. At first I was dissapointed because all the kids around me were getting gloves, wristbands, etc., but the more i thought about it the more it meant to me. The biggest reason was that the decal isn’t the one they have always worn. It was the special Trojan they in honor of that year being an anniversary of some sort (dont recall what). I think I might still have it somewhere at my mom’s house.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | December 31, 2007 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”195528″][quote comment=”195520″][quote comment=”195518″]Take a look at both teams in this shot — it’s no contest. [/quote]

    you’re right. based on the last 15 years of athletic design, the celtics look so much better.[/quote]

    Correction — the changes you’re referring to have nothing to do with design. They have to do with fashion. In fact, these changes actually conflict with the world of design, because they (a) run counter to function, and (b) have forced graphics that were intended for a certain tailoring pattern to be extended onto a much longer, extended pattern.

    Whether you like the changes or not, don’t mistake them for anything other than what they are: a fashion trend.[/quote]

    i dont know if the term trend would be proper. the lenthy inseams on shorts has evolved over a period of 20 years. do trends last for 2 decades?

    i guess what im saying here is that based on this viewpoint, for all uniforms, for all sports over all eras, we should have to either refer to the general look of a player in uniform as “all trends” or “all styles” (save for individual adaptations like kerry kittles sock/s). i mean, is EVERYTHING a trend then? is there a time minimum and/or maximum on trends?

  • Mickel Yantz | December 31, 2007 at 1:09 pm |

    Larry Upson, the NFL’s Director of Officiating Operations. “The rulebook specifies that chin straps have to be ‘white only”
    So will Vince be fined or is that rule just for Ocho Cinco?

  • My Name is not Earl | December 31, 2007 at 1:25 pm |

    Cal going NNOB for the Armed Forces Bowl in Fort Worth. Have they done this before?

  • My Name is not Earl | December 31, 2007 at 1:26 pm |

    But at least Cal is wearing its white jerseys (with the blue pants). I almost expected Cal to wear gold (Air Force is wearing blue)

  • Art | December 31, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    Paul,
    Love the site- could you please explain why Randy Moss’ jersey has the upside “8” and why his the rest of the team has normal 8’s?

  • Chris | December 31, 2007 at 1:32 pm |

    Is it just me or does Vince Young look like he has completely broken his foot off in this picture? Either that or he’s having major footwear issues!

  • Chris | December 31, 2007 at 1:33 pm |
  • Brendan | December 31, 2007 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”195565″]Is it just me or does Vince Young look like he has completely broken his foot off in this picture? Either that or he’s having major footwear issues!

    link[/quote]

    It just looks like his shoes aren’t tied tght enough and he landed on them badly.

  • Randy Williams | December 31, 2007 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”195573″][quote comment=”195565″]Is it just me or does Vince Young look like he has completely broken his foot off in this picture? Either that or he’s having major footwear issues!

    link[/quote]

    It just looks like his shoes aren’t tied tght enough and he landed on them badly.[/quote]
    First of all I apologize in advance for not having a screen shot.
    Luke Lawton had a wild mouth guard last night. It looked a pair of halloween vampire teeth. The guard was black and it had white teeth and fangs on it.
    Alas, no pic AND the colts castoffs couldn’t help out my Browns

  • Chris | December 31, 2007 at 2:13 pm |

    Regarding the Jim Burt portion of this blog, I have one question. As you can see in this picture: “http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2262/1730699370_5fb3e9da89_b.jpg” Jim Burt has some type of cover/cap over the portion of his helmet where the facemask connects on each side. I was wondering what that cover/cap is/was used for? I recall seeing that cover/cap commonly used by the Buffalo Bills teams of the late ’80’s and early ’90’s. Any idea(s)?

  • Dan | December 31, 2007 at 2:31 pm |

    Oregon wearing solid black uniforms in the Sun Bowl

    Fresno is wearing solid red in the Humanitarian Bowl

  • Tim Forster | December 31, 2007 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”195522″][quote comment=”195519″]What, no Tyson Gentry memorial sticker on the back of that Buckeye helmet?[/quote]

    The member specifically asked not to include any memorial decals, so that the design wouldn’t be tied to any one season.[/quote]

    Paul, that’s the first design that’s made me want a new membership card, how much for replacements?

  • Ian K | December 31, 2007 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”195562″]But at least Cal is wearing its white jerseys (with the blue pants). I almost expected Cal to wear gold (Air Force is wearing blue)[/quote]

    Is it a full crowd, or can you see the purple “TCU” in the upper deck stands? I still can’t believe that Amon Carter Stadium hosts a bowl game.

  • Stuby | December 31, 2007 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”195603″][quote comment=”195562″]But at least Cal is wearing its white jerseys (with the blue pants). I almost expected Cal to wear gold (Air Force is wearing blue)[/quote]

    Is it a full crowd, or can you see the purple “TCU” in the upper deck stands? I still can’t believe that Amon Carter Stadium hosts a bowl game.[/quote]
    I still can’t believe Cal got a bowl bid with a 3-6 conference record.

  • Mike Engle | December 31, 2007 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”195599″][quote comment=”195522″][quote comment=”195519″]What, no Tyson Gentry memorial sticker on the back of that Buckeye helmet?[/quote]

    The member specifically asked not to include any memorial decals, so that the design wouldn’t be tied to any one season.[/quote]

    Paul, that’s the first design that’s made me want a new membership card, how much for replacements?[/quote]
    $15 for a different card without renewing the membership.

  • Joseph | December 31, 2007 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”195560″]Cal going NNOB for the Armed Forces Bowl in Fort Worth. Have they done this before?[/quote]

    Nope. It was to focus on the team because of their late season losing streak? Is it me, or are Oregon’s shoulders browner than usual?

  • Jordan | December 31, 2007 at 3:26 pm |

    The Ducks’ shoulders definitely look brown…You can see the green in the long sleeves.

  • Buckeye Mike | December 31, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    PAUL,
    The 24 sticker has been on the back of the Buckeyes helmet for the last couple years, just FYI, so it’s not to one season. I’d assume it will be there until TG is gone form the school.

  • James Craven | December 31, 2007 at 3:54 pm |

    Oregon’s gone Harry High School.

    As for the Lakers last night, quoting Nick Bakay, around a couple years ago:

    “Long shorts: An inch below the knees.

    “Short shorts: An inch below the grapes.

    “Advantage: Long shorts.”

    That is all.

  • Frankie | December 31, 2007 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”195469″]I think Vince Young’s chinstrap thing is the same as the belt cover. Possible??[/quote]

    That’s the first thing I thought when I saw the game last night. Everyone else who wears something on their chinstrap during games wears a blank, white one (Peyton used to, but I’m not sure if he still does). I think that Vince may be facing a fine for this, due to the color.

  • Mark | December 31, 2007 at 4:01 pm |

    Someone from the Lakers should have worn some blue kneepads like Magic used to. Or at least some of these socks.

  • Ronnie Poore | December 31, 2007 at 4:37 pm |

    this is how both sides shoulda looked in the lakers/celtics game:
    http://farm1.static....
    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

  • Justin B | December 31, 2007 at 4:37 pm |

    Any picks of the Ducks uniforms?

  • BA | December 31, 2007 at 4:46 pm |

    The Lakers had to go to an old uniform supplier because Adidas didn’t have the ability to make the “short shorts.”

    http://www.latimes.c...

    (In the middle of the article)

  • Vegas4BOC | December 31, 2007 at 5:23 pm |

    Cool article on what the equipment men will be dealing with for the NHL Winter Classic.
    http://www.buffalone...

  • MikeyB | December 31, 2007 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”195623″]The Ducks’ shoulders definitely look brown…You can see the green in the long sleeves.[/quote]

    I noticed that too. Is that new?

  • Fleeser | December 31, 2007 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”195451″]I have always loved Evansville’s sleeved uniforms, and I was very sad when they ditched them (I think sometime around 2002 or so) for the more standard style uniform.

    Very cool to see them in the sleeved uniforms again.[/quote]

    While I appreciate the tradition of the sleeves, I really like these.

  • Mike Engle | December 31, 2007 at 5:59 pm |

    Mr. Lukas:
    Speaking of membership, who was #500? I heard that #500 was a gift membership, to be disclosed after X-Mas.

  • Jordan | December 31, 2007 at 6:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”195704″][quote comment=”195623″]The Ducks’ shoulders definitely look brown…You can see the green in the long sleeves.[/quote]

    I noticed that too. Is that new?[/quote]

    that what i saw too
    i was thinking they got faded or something

  • Joseph | December 31, 2007 at 6:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”195704″][quote comment=”195623″]The Ducks’ shoulders definitely look brown…You can see the green in the long sleeves.[/quote]

    I noticed that too. Is that new?[/quote]

    I’ve watched all of their games this year and I’ve never seen it

  • JP | December 31, 2007 at 6:29 pm |

    FSU is going monochrome with the Garnet Tops and Pants today. And they are wearing white socks with Gold tops on them.

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2007 at 6:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”195491″]On the other hand, the powder blue’s with Crosby’s name and number on the powder blues seem “off”.[/quote]

    hey, isn’t that sid the kid in the front row wearing a retro jersey?

    el sid

    [quote comment=”195716″][quote comment=”195704″][quote comment=”195623″]The Ducks’ shoulders definitely look brown…You can see the green in the long sleeves.[/quote]

    I noticed that too. Is that new?[/quote]

    that what i saw too
    i was thinking they got faded or something[/quote]

    ducks @ the sun bowl today in black and green

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2007 at 6:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”195736″]FSU is going monochrome with the Garnet Tops and Pants today. And they are wearing white socks with Gold tops on them.[/quote]

    yeah, that’s a good look

    lemme try this one again:

    pens in retro blue

    i think it’s a SCHWEET look

  • zach | December 31, 2007 at 7:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”195516″]Of course the brown goalie pads look great. You’ve just eliminated part of the VISUAL CACOPHONY that is modern hockey…. between the busy new jerseys with their crazy stipes and swooshes… the goalie leg pads with designs in team colors… the advertising on the boards…. it’s all visual overload.

    I got the “Flyers 10 Greatest Games” DVD and was watching the ’74 series against Boston this week. What a difference, visually, from the game of today. So much easier on the eyes. As well as the TV broadcast having nothing more than instant replays — no flashing, noisy,whiz-bang graphics!!!

    Ah, just showing my age, I guess….

    -Jet[/quote]

    This is something I can never understand. Being in my early twenties, I can never see myself in a position where 30 years down the road, I am so unwillingly accepting of progress and change that I shake the proverbial fist at: “Swooshes, and whiz bang graphics.”

    Time moves on, nothing lasts forever. It’s opinions like yours that typically evoke a: “Get over it.”, from my generation, so it leaves me wondering just what my generation can accomplish when all the Baby Boomers retire and free up the seats of power.

    Also, I don’t think they had energy drinks when hockey was played outdoors

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | December 31, 2007 at 7:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”195542″]Bears sticker update: Olin Kreutz and Adrian Peterson had minor helmet sticker rips.[/quote]

    I don’t think they’ve ever got new decals. There’s a good chance the CHEAP ASS McCaskey’s refused to purchase new ones.

    I LOVED THE Lakers SHORT SHORTS!! I would have loved the full ensemble if the jersey weren’t so baggy. Boooooooo to those who bash ’em. C’mon just have fun with it.

    It wouldn’t hurt the Celtics either to shave off a few inches from their short length….lets apply it to the entire NBA while we’re at it.

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2007 at 7:34 pm |

    heh…i was just noticing in the pic of the noles i posted above in their scarlet nightmare…the kentucky player is giving the reacharound on de’cody fagg

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2007 at 7:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”195752″]heh…i was just noticing in the pic of the noles i posted above in their scarlet nightmare…the kentucky player is giving the reacharound on de’cody fagg[/quote]

    one more time

  • Guy Marzorati | December 31, 2007 at 7:39 pm |

    As I was watching Saturday night’s Pats-Giants tilt, I saw the officials patting down the offensive linemen as they took the field after halftime. Anyone know what they were checking for?

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2007 at 7:52 pm |

    miller and thibault tuquing up

  • Jet | December 31, 2007 at 8:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”195746″][/quote]

    This is something I can never understand. Being in my early twenties, I can never see myself in a position where 30 years down the road, I am so unwillingly accepting of progress and change that I shake the proverbial fist at: “Swooshes, and whiz bang graphics.”

    Time moves on, nothing lasts forever. It’s opinions like yours that typically evoke a: “Get over it.”, from my generation, so it leaves me wondering just what my generation can accomplish when all the Baby Boomers retire and free up the seats of power.

    [/quote]

    You missed the point of my post, junior. It’s not about resisting change.

    I was a goalie in my youth and I surely didn’t resist the change and progress that brought about goalie masks. No way in hell was I gonna face pucks like the barefaced goalies of the 50’s and 60’s.

    If you read that article about the pads, they also mention how the old leather goalie pads (and gloves) weren’t padded enough to prevent you from feeling the pain of a hard shot.

    I had my share of painful shots to the legs and hands and arms. I would have welcomed the improved equipment of today when I was playing goal in the 70’s.

    This site is about uniform design and what looks good and what doesn’t. The point I was making is that visual cacophony is not good. European hockey jerseys covered with corporate sponsor patches is not good uniform design.

    Goalie pads painted in team colors is visual overload, in my opinion. Advertisements plastered on the side boards, is visual overload, in my opinion. TV broadcasts in which the presentation is more important than the game, in which the editors and producers get to show off all their graphical trickery, is not good, in my opinion.

    I happen to not like visual cacophony. Deal with it.

    -Jet

  • Kevin | December 31, 2007 at 8:10 pm |

    Indiana has busted out the white helmet stripes for the Insight.com Bowl. They don’t seem to be working and even though their jersey looks like OU, it doesn’t seem to be phasing the Pokes.

  • Patrick | December 31, 2007 at 8:31 pm |

    Pens in retro blue look good except for that round logo on the jeresy front. Yes, we know you’re the Pittsburgh Penguins. No need to print it on your jersey. Get rid of the wording in the circle and keep the penguin and I think it’d look much better. Retro doesn’t always mean better.

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2007 at 8:45 pm |

    [quote]Of course the brown goalie pads look great[/quote]

    you got that right jet

    /patrick & zach…get off my lawn ;)

  • Dan | December 31, 2007 at 8:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”195605″][quote comment=”195603″][quote comment=”195562″]But at least Cal is wearing its white jerseys (with the blue pants). I almost expected Cal to wear gold (Air Force is wearing blue)[/quote]

    Is it a full crowd, or can you see the purple “TCU” in the upper deck stands? I still can’t believe that Amon Carter Stadium hosts a bowl game.[/quote]
    I still can’t believe Cal got a bowl bid with a 3-6 conference record.[/quote]

    Yeah but they beat Tennessee and Oregon

  • Dan | December 31, 2007 at 8:59 pm |

    Jerseys for today’s bowl games
    Armed Forces Bowl:
    Cal: White jerseys and Blue pants plus NNOB
    Air Force: Blue Jerseys and White Pants

    Humanitarian Bowl:
    Fresno State: Red Jerseys and Red Pants
    Georgia Tech: White jerseys and Gold Pants

    Sun Bowl:
    Oregon: Black Jerseys and Black Pants
    South Florida: White jerseys and Green Pants

    Music City Bowl
    Kentucky: Solid White
    Flordia State: Solid Garnet

    Chick-Fil-A bowl:
    Clemson: White jerseys and Purple Pants
    Auburn: Blue Jerseys and White Pants

  • bryant | December 31, 2007 at 9:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”195535″]I wanted to tack on something else about Todd Burns. He pitched for the Rangers after he left Oakland, and I remember every game he pitched with Texas, that he had to adjust his hat after EVERY pitch. It was kind of like Nomar’s fidgeting, but worse; I don’t know if he had a problem with the hat or what. Even the Rangers TV guys at the time, Steve Busby and Jim Sundberg, commented on that on the air.[/quote]

    Oh man, must you remind me? I thought that was annoying. He didn’t only do it in Texas I remember he did it while with Oakland, too.

  • LI Phil | December 31, 2007 at 9:35 pm |

    anyone gone watch maddo kill himself tonite?

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | December 31, 2007 at 10:16 pm |

    Clemson’s QB’s jersey is kind of crowded on the front. He’s got the Chick Fil-A Bowl patch, a black piece of tape memorializing something, a captain’s “C”, a Nike swoosh, and the Clemson Paw in the middle.

    I don’t have a picture yet.

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | December 31, 2007 at 11:04 pm |

    Here’s a mediocre photo from post #92. The QB happens to be wearing a spare tire as well :P

  • Mike L | December 31, 2007 at 11:45 pm |

    Happy New Year everyone. 11 minutes to go and i am catching up on uniwatchblog while waiting for the ball to drop here with my wife and daughter.

    Wanted to point out the odd memorial decal action in Sunday’s Browns vs SF game. Both teams still had the Sean Taylor 21, but more interestingly, both teams had ‘BW’ decals (barely visible here ) Browns memorializing Bill Willis and SF the same for Bill Walsh. Never seen same memorials for different reasons in same game.

    Happy New Year to all.

  • Marc from Brooklyn | January 1, 2008 at 12:01 am |

    [quote comment=”195552″][quote comment=”195528″][quote comment=”195520″][quote comment=”195518″]Take a look at both teams in this shot — it’s no contest. [/quote]

    you’re right. based on the last 15 years of athletic design, the celtics look so much better.[/quote]

    Correction — the changes you’re referring to have nothing to do with design. They have to do with fashion. In fact, these changes actually conflict with the world of design, because they (a) run counter to function, and (b) have forced graphics that were intended for a certain tailoring pattern to be extended onto a much longer, extended pattern.

    Whether you like the changes or not, don’t mistake them for anything other than what they are: a fashion trend.[/quote]

    i dont know if the term trend would be proper. the lenthy inseams on shorts has evolved over a period of 20 years. do trends last for 2 decades?

    i guess what im saying here is that based on this viewpoint, for all uniforms, for all sports over all eras, we should have to either refer to the general look of a player in uniform as “all trends” or “all styles” (save for individual adaptations like kerry kittles sock/s). i mean, is EVERYTHING a trend then? is there a time minimum and/or maximum on trends?[/quote]

    Trend or style change, I have to say that, as an amateur, I find the current length much more comfortable and functional. I absolutely hated short shorts that I was supposed to wear for gym in school (from the mid-70s through the mid-80’s). I didn’t like the feel of my legs touching each other. I wore sweat pants when allowed. (I hated the tank top feel too, but that’s another blog entry.) I loved the trend towards longer shorts in the late 80s (both athletic shorts and streetwear). Except for the goofy look of shorts that go below the knee, I find today’s shorts much more comfortable.

  • Joseph | January 1, 2008 at 12:14 am |

    [quote comment=”195738″][quote comment=”195491″]On the other hand, the powder blue’s with Crosby’s name and number on the powder blues seem “off”.[/quote]

    hey, isn’t that sid the kid in the front row wearing a retro jersey?

    el sid

    [quote comment=”195716″][quote comment=”195704″][quote comment=”195623″]The Ducks’ shoulders definitely look brown…You can see the green in the long sleeves.[/quote]

    I noticed that too. Is that new?[/quote]

    that what i saw too
    i was thinking they got faded or something[/quote]

    ducks @ the sun bowl today in black and green[/quote]

    That’s weird. They looked way more brown on TV. Those look like their normal black with the green shoulders

  • Casey (Davis, CA) | January 1, 2008 at 5:32 am |
  • Jeremiah McElwain | January 1, 2008 at 11:08 pm |

    PL,
    Don’t know if you ever played basketball or not, but I have. Not only that, but I sweat like a mother f’er. When you need a breather on the court, and towels aren’t available, the last place you want to put sweaty hands is on sweaty legs. If the shorts don’t go to your knees, and that’s where you want your hands for a break, you gotta do something about it. I agree it looks bad, but I’d rather look bad on a court bc I did that, than look bad bc I had a turnover bc my hands were too sweaty.

  • Greg | January 2, 2008 at 12:34 am |

    I have to say that both teams looked fantastic in todays Winter Classic game! The Sabres finally wore uniforms with a depiction of their team nickname (after all, they are the Sabres, not the Buffaloes or Buffaslugs), and the Pens looked fantastic in the baby blues. I might have to get myself one of them, they were so awesome!

  • Michael Beasley | January 5, 2008 at 8:26 pm |

    Don’t make fun. I had to wear those in high school, lol.