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Zebra Update

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Several readers have been clamoring for updated info regarding the NFL officials’ cold-weather slacks, and I think I’ve finally got some — no thanks to the NFL, I might add.

First, a quick recap: As you may recall, the officials inexplicably wore the slacks for the Cowboys/Lions game back on December 9th — an odd choice, given that the game was played indoors. Same goes for last Monday’s Chargers/Broncos game which was a decidedly non-chilly 62 degrees at kickoff. What gives?

I’ve been trying to get an answer to that question from Mike Pereira, the NFL’s Vice President of Officiating. That’s him in the purple polo, which should give you an idea of where this is going. Turns out ol’ Mike is, shall we say, a tough man to pin down. I’ve been leaving messages with his office for weeks now — the most recent one was yesterday — but he hasn’t bothered to call me back.

Fortunately, reader Austin Henley checked in yesterday with some news that sheds a bit more like on the subject:

On the December 12th edition of Total Access on the NFL Network [which I don’t have — PL], Mike Pereira was on for his weekly “Official Review” segment. … He said a couple of things that I thought were interesting:

First: He gave the referees the option to wear the long pants and shirts at their discretion once the calendar flipped to December, meaning that referee Gerry Austin made the decision for the crew to go with the slacks and short sleeves [for the game in Detroit].

Second: He said that although he had given them the go-ahead to wear what they wanted, he did not like the short sleeves with long pants. He didn’t say Austin was reprimanded, but he said that you should not expect that look to reappear. He did say he really liked the long pants and long-sleeve shirts, which shouldn’t be surprising, since he played a part in their design.

John Parry, not Austin, was the referee for Monday’s game in San Diego, but it seems that more and more refs are taking advantage of Pereira’s late-season lenience.

Interestingly, the first time I called Pereira’s office and told his secretary that I wanted to ask him about the slacks worn in the Detroit game, she said, “Oh yes, I know there was some concern about the slacks being worn with the short sleeves,” essentially repeating what Pereira himself apparently said in his TV spot. Can’t say I understand the fuss, because I think the slacks look pretty much the same — i.e., like crap — no matter which jersey they’re paired with.

And that’s why I don’t like this “up to their discretion” business one little bit. When I discussed the slacks about a year ago with NFL officiating exec Larry Upson (who was much more accessible than Pereira but, unfortunately, is no longer with the league), he said, “They have to ask before they can wear ’em, just so we don’t have guys going around willy-nilly wearing them.” Wish they’d stuck to that protocol, because it’s starting to look like the officials prefer the slacks. If so, that’s a tragedy in the making, because NFL officials are more or less the last humans on the planet who know how to cuffs their knickers just right — mid-upper shin, just a bit of blousing — and are also among the rapidly dwindling ranks of the striped hosiery set. The slacks’ increasing prevalence is akin to the advent of pajama pants in baseball — and just as odious.

And if any officials out there think the slacks are more comfortable than the knickers, or less of a hassle, I frankly don’t care. Think of the proud heritage of high-cuffed football officials. Think of all the sock mills that depend on you to show off their striped hose. Think of how the slacks make you look like a cross between a bellhop and a sales clerk at Foot Locker.

You’ve chosen a special role for yourself. Now dress the part.

Uni Watch News Ticker: 49ers lineman Larry Allen is apparently quite a jersey collector (with thanks to Al Cummings). … Yesterday I mentioned that one of the officials in Wednesday night’s Blues/Red Wings game lost his luggage and had to wear borrowed equipment. Turns out Teebz knows the official in question and provided the full story in yesterday’s comments. Check it out here. … Lots of new soccer kits on display here (with thanks to Chris Cruz). … Amazing old Iowa football jersey up for auction here. … Seton Hall wore silver-gray uniforms last night. … Several readers have pointed out that Bill Simmons’s current column includes a link to this video clip from the 1984 NBA Old-Timers Game, which features loads of FNOB action (plus lots of disturbing shots of fat old guys squeezed in snug-fitting jerseys). … Japan’s two basketball leagues have unveiled their all-star uniforms. The BJ League will look like this and this (hmmm, wonder where they got their design inspiration?), and the JBL will wear this and this (as forwarded by Jeremy Brahm). … Cricket fan Jordan Owen reports that Australian wicketkeeper Adam Gilchrist wore pink gloves and a black armband the other day, for reasons explained in the third paragraph of this story.

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Holiday Schedule: Unless something really momentous happens over the weekend, we’ll just have open chatter from tomorrow through New Year’s Day, then back to regular content next Wednesday.

 

129 comments to Zebra Update

  • Rick | December 28, 2007 at 8:52 am |

    I am a former high school football official and I absolutely hate what the NFL is doing with the official’s uniforms. The new stripes on the shirts were one thing. I still don’t like them, but they aren’t nearly as offensive to me as those idiotic black pants. Here in Texas we would wear black shorts in the early season games because of the extreme heat, but the preference was the white knickers. I think the officials uniforms are just another example of the NFL losing touch with reality.

  • Ryan B. | December 28, 2007 at 8:54 am |

    Lots of new soccer kits on display here (with thanks to Chris Cruz). …

    I happen to think the new Italy shirt is one of the most beautiful uniforms I’ve ever seen for any sport. Simple, clean, crisp…it’s attractive, and I love the green, white, and red stripes behind the collar.

    Paul, does that piece of material (the flap behind the buttons on the shirt–almost designed to look like a shirt under the shirt, so to speak) have a specific name?

  • Paul Lukas | December 28, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    [quote comment=”193774″]Lots of new soccer kits on display here (with thanks to Chris Cruz). …

    I happen to think the new Italy shirt is one of the most beautiful uniforms I’ve ever seen for any sport. Simple, clean, crisp…it’s attractive, and I love the green, white, and red stripes behind the collar.

    Paul, does that piece of material (the flap behind the buttons on the shirt–almost designed to look like a shirt under the shirt, so to speak) have a specific name?[/quote]

    Good question. Strictly speaking, it’s essentially a dickie, although a very abbreviated one.

  • LI Phil | December 28, 2007 at 9:22 am |

    perhaps no fun league refs will be permitted to dress like this in indoor/warm weather games next year

  • Marty Met | December 28, 2007 at 9:31 am |

    [quote comment=”193774″]Lots of new soccer kits on display here (with thanks to Chris Cruz). …

    I happen to think the new Italy shirt is one of the most beautiful uniforms I’ve ever seen for any sport. Simple, clean, crisp…it’s attractive, and I love the green, white, and red stripes behind the collar.[/quote]

    Really? I think it’s almost as boring as a Penn State football uniform or the Yankees uniform. Dullsville!!

  • LockBull | December 28, 2007 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=”193783″][quote comment=”193774″]Lots of new soccer kits on display here (with thanks to Chris Cruz). …

    I happen to think the new Italy shirt is one of the most beautiful uniforms I’ve ever seen for any sport. Simple, clean, crisp…it’s attractive, and I love the green, white, and red stripes behind the collar.[/quote]

    Really? I think it’s almost as boring as a Penn State football uniform or the Yankees uniform. Dullsville!![/quote]
    Count me in as being a “thumbs up” for this kit. Is there any detail on the new badge? I see stars inside the badge, usually they’re on top, and there’s no detail on the round thing in the middle.

  • Ryan B. | December 28, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”193776″][quote comment=”193774″]

    Paul, does that piece of material (the flap behind the buttons on the shirt–almost designed to look like a shirt under the shirt, so to speak) have a specific name?[/quote]

    Good question. Strictly speaking, it’s essentially a dickie, although a very abbreviated one.[/quote]

    I thought maybe it would have a special name. And, God, I hated dickies. My grandmother always gave me a dickey each year for Christmas because she wanted me to wear them under sweaters and such.

    Technically, isn’t a “dickie” a piece that’s not attached to the garment you wear it under?

    (I assume that us UniWatchers can avoid obvious jokes right about now.)

  • ScottyJ in WV | December 28, 2007 at 9:50 am |

    “The slacks’ increasing prevalence is akin to the advent of pajama pants in baseball — and just as odious.”

    I absolutely love, and agree, with this sentence.

  • Zack | December 28, 2007 at 9:52 am |

    Speaking of ‘dickies’
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Paul Lukas | December 28, 2007 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”193795″]Technically, isn’t a “dickie” a piece that’s not attached to the garment you wear it under?[/quote]

    Hmmmm, I think you’re right. So maybe it’s a faux dickie. But a dickie is a faux front. So that’s like a double-negative or something….

    Someone in the biz, help us out with the terminology here.

  • Paul Lukas | December 28, 2007 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”193799″]Speaking of ‘dickies’
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    On some strange level that I can’t quite explain, that is one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen.

  • Ryan B. | December 28, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”193802″][quote comment=”193799″]Speaking of ‘dickies’
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    On some strange level that I can’t quite explain, that is one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen.[/quote]

    It’s the green and gold, right? :P

    Wow…who would have thought that UniWatch would have become DickeyWatch this morning? It’s mostly my fault.

  • GoTerriers | December 28, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”193799″]Speaking of ‘dickies’
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    I thought it would be something like this. . .

  • CV | December 28, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    Man, I have to say I love those Texas orange unis. Top 5 in the NCAA IMO.

    Paul, is there any place where a guy can find which team will wear colors, and which white, in the bowl games? Curious on them all, but especially interested in whether my Badgers wil be in red or white. On that note, the 99 Rose Bowl between UW and UCLA was replayed on Big Ten network last night. UCLA is also one of my favorite NCAA unis, and the Badgers wore red pants with their white jerseys, so it was a beautiful game.

    PS, I liked the Seton Hall grays, alot.

  • Paul Lukas | December 28, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”193808″]Paul, is there any place where a guy can find which team will wear colors, and which white, in the bowl games?[/quote]

    Not that I’m aware of. Anyone..?

  • Marty Met | December 28, 2007 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”193791″][quote comment=”193783″][quote comment=”193774″]Lots of new soccer kits on display here (with thanks to Chris Cruz). …

    I happen to think the new Italy shirt is one of the most beautiful uniforms I’ve ever seen for any sport. Simple, clean, crisp…it’s attractive, and I love the green, white, and red stripes behind the collar.[/quote]

    Really? I think it’s almost as boring as a Penn State football uniform or the Yankees uniform. Dullsville!![/quote]
    Count me in as being a “thumbs up” for this kit. Is there any detail on the new badge? I see stars inside the badge, usually they’re on top, and there’s no detail on the round thing in the middle.[/quote]

    I give a thumbs up to the new Holland kit. I LOVE the powder blue. If only they had added a bit of orange trim.

  • Kerry P | December 28, 2007 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”193799″]Speaking of ‘dickies’
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    It reminds me of THIS.

  • djl | December 28, 2007 at 10:18 am |

    Nice to see that Ken will be playing for the West in the JBL all-star game.

    We’ve got Shaq, Kobe, and LeBron. The JBL has…Ken.

  • Paul Lukas | December 28, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”193805″][quote comment=”193802″][quote comment=”193799″]Speaking of ‘dickies’
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    On some strange level that I can’t quite explain, that is one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen.[/quote]

    It’s the green and gold, right? :P[/quote]

    Speaking of which … wow.

  • Anthony Verna | December 28, 2007 at 10:35 am |

    Why are Japanese leagues split East/West? Wouldn’t it be easier to split Japan into North/South?

  • Ash | December 28, 2007 at 10:40 am |

    Today’s Kurt Snibbe cartoon on Page 2 shows the Giants in purple jerseys with blue helmets. What’s up with that?

  • Matthew H. | December 28, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”193810″][quote comment=”193808″]Paul, is there any place where a guy can find which team will wear colors, and which white, in the bowl games?[/quote]

    Not that I’m aware of. Anyone..?[/quote]

    I believe that the higher ranked team is allowed to pick which uniform they want to wear.

  • Marty Met | December 28, 2007 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”193829″][quote comment=”193810″][quote comment=”193808″]Paul, is there any place where a guy can find which team will wear colors, and which white, in the bowl games?[/quote]

    Not that I’m aware of. Anyone..?[/quote]

    I believe that the higher ranked team is allowed to pick which uniform they want to wear.[/quote]

    Why is Shula in uniform?

  • josh | December 28, 2007 at 10:50 am |

    The slacks’ increasing prevalence is akin to the advent of pajama pants in baseball — and just as odious.

    I think the slacks are more odious than the pajama look in baseball, not so much because of how they look, (like shit) but because of what they represent. Baseball players in pajamas look stupid, but they don’t diminish player in the least if he can come through with runners in scoring position, or throw 100mph cheese on the black with movement. The refs, on the other hand, are the game’s authority, and their unis must convey that. Anything that makes them look more like special teams coach, or the trainer, or the water boy undermines that authority. That’s why judges wear those robes, and don’t dress like the bailiff or the stenographer; to make it absolutely clear who’s in charge. When Ben Dreith was, “…givin’ ’em the business.”, there was now doubt. Now, not so much.

  • dgc | December 28, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”193825″]Why are Japanese leagues split East/West? Wouldn’t it be easier to split Japan into North/South?[/quote]

    IIRC there’s two different cultures/mindsets that happens to divide Japan east/west. I think there’s a western vs. eastern split in cuisines as well. Or least there was something to that effect on Iron Chef.

  • Shane | December 28, 2007 at 10:58 am |

    Oh wow. The away shirt for Holland is amazing. I might have to get one.

  • Kerry P | December 28, 2007 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”193830″][quote comment=”193829″][quote comment=”193810″][quote comment=”193808″]Paul, is there any place where a guy can find which team will wear colors, and which white, in the bowl games?[/quote]

    Not that I’m aware of. Anyone..?[/quote]

    I believe that the higher ranked team is allowed to pick which uniform they want to wear.[/quote]

    Why is Shula in uniform?[/quote]
    Because Shula is just as determined as the rest of the Dolphins to stay the only undefeated team in NFL history.

  • Mark | December 28, 2007 at 10:58 am |

    Anyone else find it odd that the Iowa football jersey on ebay is clearly on a female mannequin?

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | December 28, 2007 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”193826″]Today’s Kurt Snibbe cartoon on Page 2 shows the Giants in purple jerseys with blue helmets. What’s up with that?[/quote]
    Does “reflex blue” show up as purple in the cartoons? At least it’s following the Giants tradition of the helmets and jerseys having separate shades of blue

  • Richard from MA | December 28, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    Comment #28:

    Anyone else find it odd that the Iowa football jersey on ebay is clearly on a female mannequin?

    It’s strangely alluring, though…

  • Stuby | December 28, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”193835″][quote comment=”193825″]Why are Japanese leagues split East/West? Wouldn’t it be easier to split Japan into North/South?[/quote]

    IIRC there’s two different cultures/mindsets that happens to divide Japan east/west. I think there’s a western vs. eastern split in cuisines as well. Or least there was something to that effect on Iron Chef.[/quote]
    Man, I miss the original Iron Chef. Those were some sweet uniforms, too.

  • Pat | December 28, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”193847″][quote comment=”193826″]Today’s Kurt Snibbe cartoon on Page 2 shows the Giants in purple jerseys with blue helmets. What’s up with that?[/quote]
    Does “reflex blue” show up as purple in the cartoons? At least it’s following the Giants tradition of the helmets and jerseys having separate shades of blue[/quote]

    I don’t know if it’s actually supposed to be the Giants or a statement about how stupid the 72 Dolphins are. Mercury Morris can suck an egg. Shula too.

  • MikeyB | December 28, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”193774″]Lots of new soccer kits on display here (with thanks to Chris Cruz). …

    I happen to think the new Italy shirt is one of the most beautiful uniforms I’ve ever seen for any sport. Simple, clean, crisp…it’s attractive, and I love the green, white, and red stripes behind the collar.

    Paul, does that piece of material (the flap behind the buttons on the shirt–almost designed to look like a shirt under the shirt, so to speak) have a specific name?[/quote]

    That’s some weird logo creep on the shoulder. I like it and all, but the shoulders?

  • Christopher | December 28, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”193835″][quote comment=”193825″]Why are Japanese leagues split East/West? Wouldn’t it be easier to split Japan into North/South?[/quote]

    IIRC there’s two different cultures/mindsets that happens to divide Japan east/west. I think there’s a western vs. eastern split in cuisines as well. Or least there was something to that effect on Iron Chef.[/quote]

    But still, I don’t know what cities they play in (or even if the actual split is really East/West)… but I gotta believe it would be really difficult to even out teams East/West across such a thin country.

  • CV | December 28, 2007 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”193829″][quote comment=”193810″][quote comment=”193808″]Paul, is there any place where a guy can find which team will wear colors, and which white, in the bowl games?[/quote]

    Not that I’m aware of. Anyone..?[/quote]

    I believe that the higher ranked team is allowed to pick which uniform they want to wear.[/quote]

    Higher ranked in which poll? What if neither team is ranked?

    Not trying to be a pain in the ass, just curious how these things are chosen.

  • Mike Engle | December 28, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”193813″][quote comment=”193799″]Speaking of ‘dickies’
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...
    It reminds me of THIS.[/quote]
    Dickies?

  • Kek | December 28, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    I’d like to chime in with my two cents on the NFL officials and the long pants. Before I get into that I would state for the record that I don’t much care for the long pants look. My preference would be that not only do the league ditch the cold weather pants, but they mandate a return to the stirrups.

    That being said, I think it’s a little short-sighted to not take into account a player/referee’s comfort when looking at uniforms and how they evolve. For example, the old wool baseball uniforms looked nice, but the double-knits are more comfortable in the summer heat.

    A more recent example could be the Cooperalls in hockey. Everyone I knew growing up that played hockey said those things were much more comfortable than playing in the shorts (or whatever they’re called). Yet, because most people thought they looked horrible and the experiment was over before it really began. However, had they caught on, it could have revolutionalized what hockey uniforms look like now.

    Referees and Umpires wore ties in the past but their uniforms have evolved over the years. As long as the basic black/white with stripes combination isn’t messed with I don’t have a problem if the refs are more comfortable in the longer pants.

    Remember, the only thing constant in this life is change.

  • Bob A | December 28, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”193849″]Comment #28:

    Anyone else find it odd that the Iowa football jersey on ebay is clearly on a female mannequin?

    It’s strangely alluring, though…[/quote]

    From the auction:

    “….The mannequin the jersey is pictured on has a 40″ chest to give you some idea of size.”

    yikes

  • Rick | December 28, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”193861″]…As long as the basic black/white with stripes combination isn’t messed with I don’t have a problem if the refs are more comfortable in the longer pants…[/quote]

    I can tell you from experience, the white knickers are not uncomfortable.

  • Juan Grande | December 28, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.

  • Justin | December 28, 2007 at 12:01 pm |

    Seems like Metathesiophobia is an appropriate word for this site.

  • Kek | December 28, 2007 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”193869″][quote comment=”193861″]…As long as the basic black/white with stripes combination isn’t messed with I don’t have a problem if the refs are more comfortable in the longer pants…[/quote]

    I can tell you from experience, the white knickers are not uncomfortable.[/quote]
    Didn’t say they were… just suggesting the possibility that the long ones might be more comfortbale.

  • Stuby | December 28, 2007 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”193879″]I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.[/quote]
    Jared Lorenzen wore #22 at Kentucky, I believe. Didn’t Heath Shuler wear #21 at Tennessee?

  • Judd | December 28, 2007 at 12:08 pm |

    Tennessee is the designated home team at the Outback Bowl and will wear orange.

    [quote comment=”193810″][quote comment=”193808″]Paul, is there any place where a guy can find which team will wear colors, and which white, in the bowl games?[/quote]

    Not that I’m aware of. Anyone..?[/quote]

  • Marty Met | December 28, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”193885″]Tennessee is the designated home team at the Outback Bowl and will wear orange.

    [quote comment=”193810″][quote comment=”193808″]Paul, is there any place where a guy can find which team will wear colors, and which white, in the bowl games?[/quote]

    Not that I’m aware of. Anyone..?[/quote][/quote]

    and the orange pants too, I hope.

  • scott | December 28, 2007 at 12:18 pm |

    That photo of the slacks-clad official getting crunched is a classic. Very funny.

  • Paul Lukas | December 28, 2007 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”193880″]Seems like Metathesiophobia is an appropriate word for this site.[/quote]

    You’re confusing fear with hatred.

  • Mets Fan AZ | December 28, 2007 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”193883″][quote comment=”193879″]I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.[/quote]
    Jared Lorenzen wore #22 at Kentucky, I believe. Didn’t Heath Shuler wear #21 at Tennessee?[/quote]
    the round mound of touchdown! First QB to also be a backup RT.

  • Jake | December 28, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    Speaking of dickies, I like Cousin Eddie’s the best.

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | December 28, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”193883″][quote comment=”193879″]I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.[/quote]
    Jared Lorenzen wore #22 at Kentucky, I believe. Didn’t Heath Shuler wear #21 at Tennessee?[/quote]

    Looks like Heath still likes numbers that are higher than usual (scroll down to the bottom of this page).

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | December 28, 2007 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”193892″][quote comment=”193883″][quote comment=”193879″]I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.[/quote]
    Jared Lorenzen wore #22 at Kentucky, I believe. Didn’t Heath Shuler wear #21 at Tennessee?[/quote]
    the round mound of touchdown! First QB to also be a backup RT.[/quote]

    Never heard the “Round Mound of Touchdown” before – I’ve always liked “The Pillsbury Throw-boy”

  • Rick | December 28, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”193858″][quote comment=”193829″][quote comment=”193810″][quote comment=”193808″]Paul, is there any place where a guy can find which team will wear colors, and which white, in the bowl games?[/quote]

    Not that I’m aware of. Anyone..?[/quote]

    I believe that the higher ranked team is allowed to pick which uniform they want to wear.[/quote]

    Higher ranked in which poll? What if neither team is ranked?

    Not trying to be a pain in the ass, just curious how these things are chosen.[/quote]

    According to this article the higher seed has the choice. But it makes me wonder why Thee OSU would have chosen white last year?

    I would not have been surprised if Tressel would have started the mind games and picked white just because LSU likes to wear white.

    Link

  • Stuby | December 28, 2007 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”193899″][quote comment=”193858″][quote comment=”193829″][quote comment=”193810″][quote comment=”193808″]Paul, is there any place where a guy can find which team will wear colors, and which white, in the bowl games?[/quote]

    Not that I’m aware of. Anyone..?[/quote]

    I believe that the higher ranked team is allowed to pick which uniform they want to wear.[/quote]

    Higher ranked in which poll? What if neither team is ranked?

    Not trying to be a pain in the ass, just curious how these things are chosen.[/quote]

    According to this article the higher seed has the choice. But it makes me wonder why Thee OSU would have chosen white last year?

    I would not have been surprised if Tressel would have started the mind games and picked white just because LSU likes to wear white.

    Link[/quote]
    I think TOSU wore white last year because of the previous Fiesta Bowl success they had (wearing white) against Miami. Good concept, poor execution.

  • Perry | December 28, 2007 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”193830″][quote comment=”193829″][quote comment=”193810″][quote comment=”193808″]Paul, is there any place where a guy can find which team will wear colors, and which white, in the bowl games?[/quote]

    Not that I’m aware of. Anyone..?[/quote]

    I believe that the higher ranked team is allowed to pick which uniform they want to wear.[/quote]

    Why is Shula in uniform?[/quote]

    And why is “Csonka” misspelled?

  • LI Phil | December 28, 2007 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”193896″][quote comment=”193892″][quote comment=”193883″][quote comment=”193879″]I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.[/quote]
    Jared Lorenzen wore #22 at Kentucky, I believe. Didn’t Heath Shuler wear #21 at Tennessee?[/quote]
    the round mound of touchdown! First QB to also be a backup RT.[/quote]

    Never heard the “Round Mound of Touchdown” before – I’ve always liked “The Pillsbury Throw-boy”[/quote]

    hefty lefty, the abominable throwman, j. load, BBQ (“big beautiful quarterback”), battleship lorenzen, jughead, and blond bomber have also been associated with quarter(got)back

    personally i like pillsbury throwboy and abominable throwman, myself

    i wouldn’t mind seeing him saturday nite

  • Ronnie Poore | December 28, 2007 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”193883″][quote comment=”193879″]I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.[/quote]
    Jared Lorenzen wore #22 at Kentucky, I believe. Didn’t Heath Shuler wear #21 at Tennessee?[/quote]

    not as well known, but the starting QB for South Carolina in 1990 & 91, Bobby Fuller wore #20

  • Rick | December 28, 2007 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote]

    hefty lefty, the abominable throwman, j. load, BBQ (“big beautiful quarterback”), battleship lorenzen, jughead, and blond bomber have also been associated with quarter(got)back

    personally i like pillsbury throwboy and abominable throwman, myself

    i wouldn’t mind seeing him saturday nite[/quote]

    Wow, as a Kentucky fan and a J-Load fan I really enjoy all this love for Jared. :)

  • Pat | December 28, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”193906″][quote comment=”193896″][quote comment=”193892″][quote comment=”193883″][quote comment=”193879″]I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.[/quote]
    Jared Lorenzen wore #22 at Kentucky, I believe. Didn’t Heath Shuler wear #21 at Tennessee?[/quote]
    the round mound of touchdown! First QB to also be a backup RT.[/quote]

    Never heard the “Round Mound of Touchdown” before – I’ve always liked “The Pillsbury Throw-boy”[/quote]

    hefty lefty, the abominable throwman, j. load, BBQ (“big beautiful quarterback”), battleship lorenzen, jughead, and blond bomber have also been associated with quarter(got)back

    personally i like pillsbury throwboy and abominable throwman, myself

    i wouldn’t mind seeing him saturday nite[/quote]

    Me either. Then I KNOW “Price Charles” and the Pats will stomp all over the Giants, instead of just being 99% sure of it.

  • emd2k3 | December 28, 2007 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”193907″][quote comment=”193883″][quote comment=”193879″]I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.[/quote]
    Jared Lorenzen wore #22 at Kentucky, I believe. Didn’t Heath Shuler wear #21 at Tennessee?[/quote]

    not as well known, but the starting QB for South Carolina in 1990 & 91, Bobby Fuller wore #20[/quote]

    He should have worn #4.

  • CV | December 28, 2007 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”193885″]Tennessee is the designated home team at the Outback Bowl and will wear orange.

    [quote comment=”193810″][quote comment=”193808″]Paul, is there any place where a guy can find which team will wear colors, and which white, in the bowl games?[/quote]

    Not that I’m aware of. Anyone..?[/quote][/quote]

    Thanks for the info Judd. Sucks for UW, I could hope they would wear the red pants, but I think there is only a 0.001% chance of that.

  • LI Phil | December 28, 2007 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote]Me either. Then I KNOW “Price Charles” and the Pats will stomp all over the Giants, instead of just being 99% sure of it.[/quote]

    who is price charles?

  • Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland | December 28, 2007 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”193921″][quote]Me either. Then I KNOW “Price Charles” and the Pats will stomp all over the Giants, instead of just being 99% sure of it.[/quote]

    who is price charles?[/quote]
    Methinks it’s supposed to be “Prince Charles”

  • LI Phil | December 28, 2007 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”193922″][quote comment=”193921″][quote]Me either. Then I KNOW “Price Charles” and the Pats will stomp all over the Giants, instead of just being 99% sure of it.[/quote]

    who is price charles?[/quote]
    Methinks it’s supposed to be “Prince Charles”[/quote]

    OHHHHH…ok, thanks

    yeah, i’d hate for the giants to jeopardize their #5 seed by losing winning losing and getting what’s left of our weak and enfeebled offense more hurt

    hope the pats fans enjoy seeing the g-men tank and paying 5 times the going rate for shitty seats

    ive been rooting for a perfect season SINCE 1972 (only sucks that its gone be the pats who actually do it) so we can finally shut up shula et al (get the fck OVER it already)…and the fact that my g-men don’t even NEED the win to improve their playoff seeding…works out very nicely indeed

  • Alan #44 | December 28, 2007 at 1:58 pm |

    I know this is late in the game, but a few months ago, Paul had mentioned the “Glory Days of Baseball” exhibit at the Museum of the City of NY, 5th Ave at 103rd St. I finally got the chance to visit, and it closes on Dec 31st. If you are in the NY area, RUN, dont walk, to see it. It is kind of like a mini Cooperstown, paying tribute to the best years of baseball in New York.

  • j | December 28, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    can someone please explain to me why japanese baseball uniforms are written in english? does that make any sense?

  • josh | December 28, 2007 at 2:05 pm |

    can someone please explain to me why japanese baseball uniforms are written in english? does that make any sense?

    Because MacArthur won the War.

  • Jeff I | December 28, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”193896″][quote comment=”193892″][quote comment=”193883″][quote comment=”193879″]I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.[/quote]
    Jared Lorenzen wore #22 at Kentucky, I believe. Didn’t Heath Shuler wear #21 at Tennessee?[/quote]
    the round mound of touchdown! First QB to also be a backup RT.[/quote]

    Never heard the “Round Mound of Touchdown” before – I’ve always liked “The Pillsbury Throw-boy”[/quote]
    And, of course, The Hefty Lefty

  • dgc | December 28, 2007 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”193930″]can someone please explain to me why japanese baseball uniforms are written in english? does that make any sense?

    Because MacArthur won the War.[/quote]

    English is also seen as “cool” over there. Lots of products and companies are named in English. I think all car models use the English alphabet (whether or not it’s a real word is a different story).

  • Kek | December 28, 2007 at 2:19 pm |
  • Stuby | December 28, 2007 at 2:45 pm |

    Duquesne will be wearing throwback uniforms tonight. Pretty ABA-esque, but kind of cool.

  • todd krevanchi | December 28, 2007 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”193949″]Duquesne will be wearing throwback uniforms tonight. Pretty ABA-esque, but kind of cool.[/quote]

    VERY kentucky colonels…
    http://www.ket.org/b...

  • phil | December 28, 2007 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”193937″][quote comment=”193930″]can someone please explain to me why japanese baseball uniforms are written in english? does that make any sense?

    Because MacArthur won the War.[/quote]

    English is also seen as “cool” over there. Lots of products and companies are named in English. I think all car models use the English alphabet (whether or not it’s a real word is a different story).[/quote]
    more fun with english …

  • Joe from WV | December 28, 2007 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”193937″][quote comment=”193930″]can someone please explain to me why japanese baseball uniforms are written in english? does that make any sense?

    Because MacArthur won the War.[/quote]

    English is also seen as “cool” over there. Lots of products and companies are named in English. I think all car models use the English alphabet (whether or not it’s a real word is a different story).[/quote]

    I’ve always wondered if the trendy teenagers over there get tattoos of English letters.

  • SSS57 | December 28, 2007 at 3:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”193936″][quote comment=”193896″][quote comment=”193892″][quote comment=”193883″][quote comment=”193879″]I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.[/quote]
    Jared Lorenzen wore #22 at Kentucky, I believe. Didn’t Heath Shuler wear #21 at Tennessee?[/quote]
    the round mound of touchdown! First QB to also be a backup RT.[/quote]

    Never heard the “Round Mound of Touchdown” before – I’ve always liked “The Pillsbury Throw-boy”[/quote]
    And, of course, The Hefty Lefty[/quote]

    Or in the words of Larry Munson, Godzilla.

  • DJ | December 28, 2007 at 3:50 pm |

    can someone please explain to me why japanese baseball uniforms are written in english? does that make any sense?

    Because MacArthur won the War.

    English is also seen as “cool” over there. Lots of products and companies are named in English. I think all car models use the English alphabet (whether or not it’s a real word is a different story).

    When the J-League (the Japanese professional soccer league) started, they chose “exotic” names for many of the teams based on Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, and English names to match soccer’s international appeal. That’s why you get names such as “Sanfrecce Hiroshima”, “Gamba Osaka”, Jubilo Iwata”, etc.

  • Dan from Austin | December 28, 2007 at 3:52 pm |

    As I’ve said before, the black ref slacks look great. I mean seriously, what guy prefers white knickers over black slacks? Still contemplating over the white side stripe, and think that two smaller white stripes would look better, but the refs really look cooler in them.

  • ToasterPoodle | December 28, 2007 at 4:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”193900″][quote comment=”193899″][quote comment=”193858″][quote comment=”193829″][quote comment=”193810″][quote comment=”193808″]Paul, is there any place where a guy can find which team will wear colors, and which white, in the bowl games?[/quote]

    Not that I’m aware of. Anyone..?[/quote]

    I believe that the higher ranked team is allowed to pick which uniform they want to wear.[/quote]

    Higher ranked in which poll? What if neither team is ranked?

    Not trying to be a pain in the ass, just curious how these things are chosen.[/quote]

    According to this article the higher seed has the choice. But it makes me wonder why Thee OSU would have chosen white last year?

    I would not have been surprised if Tressel would have started the mind games and picked white just because LSU likes to wear white.

    Link[/quote]
    I think TOSU wore white last year because of the previous Fiesta Bowl success they had (wearing white) against Miami. Good concept, poor execution.[/quote]
    That poor execution is why they’re wearing red this year, not just to tweak LSU

  • Rick From Cedar Park, TX | December 28, 2007 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”193975″]As I’ve said before, the black ref slacks look great. I mean seriously, what guy prefers white knickers over black slacks? Still contemplating over the white side stripe, and think that two smaller white stripes would look better, but the refs really look cooler in them.[/quote]

    Generally, Dan, you’re right. I’d much rather wear black pants than white knickers. I’d look rather silly coming to work in white knickers. However, we disagree about football official attire.

  • chance | December 28, 2007 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”193975″]As I’ve said before, the black ref slacks look great. I mean seriously, what guy prefers white knickers over black slacks? Still contemplating over the white side stripe, and think that two smaller white stripes would look better, but the refs really look cooler in them.[/quote]

    I would. And I’m a guy.

    Shall we dress all baseball players in black slacks, as well? Maybe the Packers should start wearing Gap khakis – they’d be better than the gold knickers, surely.

  • LockBull | December 28, 2007 at 4:49 pm |

    U. of Florida officials are asking the fans to wear orange to the Capital One Bowl. Hmmm…makes me wonder if they’re bringing these back…

  • Ronnie Poore | December 28, 2007 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”193919″][quote comment=”193907″][quote comment=”193883″][quote comment=”193879″]I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.[/quote]
    Jared Lorenzen wore #22 at Kentucky, I believe. Didn’t Heath Shuler wear #21 at Tennessee?[/quote]

    not as well known, but the starting QB for South Carolina in 1990 & 91, Bobby Fuller wore #20[/quote]

    He should have worn #4.[/quote]

    now that woulda been a great name/uni number matchup! from the group that gave us
    “I fought the law and the law won”
    the Bobby Fuller Four

  • Scott | December 28, 2007 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”194001″][quote comment=”193919″][quote comment=”193907″][quote comment=”193883″][quote comment=”193879″]I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.[/quote]
    Jared Lorenzen wore #22 at Kentucky, I believe. Didn’t Heath Shuler wear #21 at Tennessee?[/quote]

    not as well known, but the starting QB for South Carolina in 1990 & 91, Bobby Fuller wore #20[/quote]

    He should have worn #4.[/quote]

    now that woulda been a great name/uni number matchup! from the group that gave us
    “I fought the law and the law won”
    the Bobby Fuller Four[/quote]

    Actually, it was originally recorded by the Crickets in 1959. However, the Bobby Fuller Four version is still the most well-known. :)

  • Ben | December 28, 2007 at 6:15 pm |

    i saw the movie juno last night and it was great, but the logo creep got to me thanks to uniwatch.

    also, last night arizona state was wearing “PT-42” on their necklines for pat tillman. i’ve never seen it before and thought it was interesting. sorry about the picture, it’s the only one i could find with it in there at all.

  • =bg= | December 28, 2007 at 6:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”193896″][quote comment=”193892″][quote comment=”193883″][quote comment=”193879″]I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19” jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    Side note, I was watching Bull Durham yesterday and noticed that Kevin Costner wore 8 on his jersey but his catcher’s helmet number always read 20 and had no Bulls logo.[/quote]
    Jared Lorenzen wore #22 at Kentucky, I believe. Didn’t Heath Shuler wear #21 at Tennessee?[/quote]
    the round mound of touchdown! First QB to also be a backup RT.[/quote]

    Never heard the “Round Mound of Touchdown” before – I’ve always liked “The Pillsbury Throw-boy”[/quote]

    I always liked the fact John Hadl wore 21 for the Chargers.

  • KT | December 28, 2007 at 6:39 pm |

    If you like the classic look of old-school NFL officiating togs (as I do), you’ll want to check out this, which would have made a perfect sidebar to today’s subject, Paul!

    Just sayin’. I sent it to you. :)

  • spencer | December 28, 2007 at 7:12 pm |

    does any one know why boston college has a black stripe on there left jersey sleeve?

  • LI Phil | December 28, 2007 at 7:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”194055″]does any one know why boston college has a black stripe on there left jersey sleeve?[/quote]

    matt ryan’s heisman campaign

  • Scott N | December 28, 2007 at 7:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”194055″]does any one know why boston college has a black stripe on there left jersey sleeve?[/quote]
    All the ACC teams are wearing some sort of memorial patch for the victims of the Virginia Tech massacre.

  • 44 | December 28, 2007 at 7:40 pm |

    Syracuse will be changing their home uni’s next year, and no more orange on orange! More here.

  • Scott N | December 28, 2007 at 7:41 pm |

    Yes on Heath Shuler and No. 21. But I don’t recall the last time two QB’s numbered 20 or higher faced each other in a game.

  • LI Phil | December 28, 2007 at 7:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”193975″]As I’ve said before, the black ref slacks look great. I mean seriously, what guy prefers white knickers over black slacks? Still contemplating over the white side stripe, and think that two smaller white stripes would look better, but the refs really look cooler in them.[/quote]

    i can’t say i’d prefer them, per se (one, i love black and two, dude…they’re knickers)…i think only raffa would go with the knicks

    but, these are REF’s not businessmen…the damn new shirts are bad enough, but to add these cooperalls is just horrid…they can MAKE the knickers out of the same warm materials, and i think thorlo or some other sock manufacturer can come up with some decent cold wx socks…i wouldn’t even mind so much if they wore white pants, as opposed to knickers, but the black ski pants just aint doin it

  • Andrew | December 28, 2007 at 8:17 pm |

    Two quick uni-related notes from the Tulane-Alabama State men’s game I’m covering right now.

    There was much talk before the season about ASU center Chief Kickingstallionsims and what he would have on his jersey. Someone said that he wore Chief but that could be just for home jerseys. The away jerseys have no NOB.

    Also, a young kid about 8 or 9 just walked in with a Magic Johnson throwback on.

    Guess I should go do my job now..

  • LI Phil | December 28, 2007 at 8:22 pm |
  • David | December 28, 2007 at 8:39 pm |

    Oh. My. God. It’s a good thing if you dont have NFL Network for the Texas Bowl–Houston is out in all red unitards (maybe they want to be like the Texans!) and TCU is out in purple-and-white unis

  • David | December 28, 2007 at 8:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”194082″]Oh. My. God. It’s a good thing if you dont have NFL Network for the Texas Bowl–Houston is out in all red unitards (maybe they want to be like the Texans!) and TCU is out in purple-and-white unis[/quote]
    But then again, the other bowl game on right now (Oregon State/Maryland in the Emerald Bowl) has one team in all black with orange sports bras…

  • S Dot | December 28, 2007 at 8:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”193999″]U. of Florida officials are asking the fans to wear orange to the Capital One Bowl. Hmmm…makes me wonder if they’re bringing these back…[/quote]

    I doubt it. At all the pre-bowl promotional events Florida has been wearing their blue jerseys with the Capital One Bowl logo on them.

  • Joe Raskin | December 28, 2007 at 9:05 pm |

    The guys in the NBA Old-Timers Game may have looked old and/or fat, but there ws still the sight of Connie Hawkins, Oscar Robertson, and Earl Monroe handling the ball one more time. Even then, they all still had it. What a thrill to see them, especially The Pearl. Is it any wonder that I hate the sight of the current collection of people wearing the uniforms that look a little bit like the uniforms that Earl Monroe, Walt Frazier, Willis Reed, and Dave DeBusschere wore (and wore with so much pride and class) so much?

    The hell with firing Isiah. Take the team away from the Dolans.

  • Chris | December 28, 2007 at 9:10 pm |

    Can anybody tell me what is on Maryland’s shoulders????

  • Dan | December 28, 2007 at 9:16 pm |

    OSU not wearing the orange monstracities tonite against Maryland gong solid white

    Also Houston wearing solid red is nothing. That is their regular home uni

  • Justin | December 28, 2007 at 9:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”193890″][quote comment=”193880″]Seems like Metathesiophobia is an appropriate word for this site.[/quote]

    You’re confusing fear with hatred.[/quote]

    Either way.. change is ok.

  • Shaggy | December 28, 2007 at 9:31 pm |

    Kippah in the Maryland Game on this guy!

    http://i14.photobuck...

    http://umterps.cstv....

    Why is he wearing a kippah and playing if it’s Shabbat!

  • shelley | December 28, 2007 at 10:01 pm |

    Not sure if anyone else wrote about this…but last night one of the Celtics players (sorry, can’t remember who it was) had his green NBA headband upside down. The announcers mentioned it, too…

  • Mike Engle | December 28, 2007 at 11:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”194099″]Not sure if anyone else wrote about this…but last night one of the Celtics players (sorry, can’t remember who it was) had his green NBA headband upside down. The announcers mentioned it, too…[/quote]
    Probably Rajan Rondo. It’s a pattern of his.

  • Billy K | December 28, 2007 at 11:36 pm |

    I thought it was appalling enough when the officials had the NFL logo on the front of their hats during the Super Bowl a couple years ago.

    Then the retarded stripes.

    And to top it off, a year later somebody robbed a robbed a tuxedo shop.

    Totally Disgusting. They should go to the classic uniforms they wore during the 1994 season.

    The new logo won’t help the officials out next year either.

  • Jeff | December 28, 2007 at 11:42 pm |

    I have a question that Paul said to direct to the threads… Since the 1984 BC-Miami game (Flutie’s Hail Mary), has there been any D-1A football game featuring two QBs wearing “non-taditional, i.e. 1-19″ jersey numbers? Flutie wore 22 and Kosar wore 20. I can’t think of a regular QB since wearing a number higher than 19. Anyone out there know of any?

    He said 2 qbs facing each other wearing non traditional numbers!

    But if you want some other examples. Auburn had a qb in about 2002 who ended up transfering who wore 22. Youngstown state now has a qb wearing 24. Stony Case wore 25 at New Mexico in the 90’s. Someone provide pics please!

  • Jeff | December 28, 2007 at 11:44 pm |

    By the way the Stony Case pic running is what you see in all the best buy and circut city ads as a example pic on a TV!

  • Jeff | December 28, 2007 at 11:51 pm |

    look at this pic. It is from Nov. 13 1988 which is right after Steelers owner Art Rooney died. Look at the NFL type logo sticker Reggie white is wearing. Is thi a idea the NFL adopted from the steelers?

    http://www.gettyimag...

  • Jeff | December 28, 2007 at 11:51 pm |

    look at this pic. It is from Nov. 13 1988 which is right after Steelers owner Art Rooney died. Look at the NFL type logo sticker Reggie white is wearing. Is thi a idea the NFL adopted from the steelers?

    http://www.gettyimag...

  • u2horn | December 28, 2007 at 11:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”194029″]

    also, last night arizona state was wearing “PT-42” on their necklines for pat tillman. i’ve never seen it before and thought it was interesting. sorry about the picture, it’s the only one i could find with it in there at all.[/quote]

    You know, I’ve gotten a little more used to seeing the new technologically advanced helmets/facemasks, but that particular shot of Jamaal Charles’ helmet makes it just look so…wrong.

  • GoMac | December 28, 2007 at 11:52 pm |

    Number 8 on OSU’s jersey ripped and it looks like he’s wearing 0 on the front of his jersey..sorry no screen grabs.

    And I think Florida is asking it’s fans to wear orange because Michigan also wears blue..so a lot of their fans are gonna be wearing it and it’ll all blend in..

  • GoMac | December 28, 2007 at 11:55 pm |

    Oh actually..scratch that..it’s just like..tucked weird under his shoulder pads in the front..so it just looks like the middle isn’t there most of the time..weird..

  • Wahl | December 29, 2007 at 12:50 am |

    [quote comment=”193954″][quote comment=”193937″][quote comment=”193930″]can someone please explain to me why japanese baseball uniforms are written in english? does that make any sense?

    Because MacArthur won the War.[/quote]

    English is also seen as “cool” over there. Lots of products and companies are named in English. I think all car models use the English alphabet (whether or not it’s a real word is a different story).[/quote]
    more fun with english …[/quote]

    Look around! That site is beautiful.

  • KT | December 29, 2007 at 12:57 am |

    Football official here. Personally, I prefer shorts, but the knickers are fine as long as we all wear them. They’re not uncomfortable.

    The NFL’s black pants take some getting used to. I don’t know if they’re more comfortable or not, but they look like ass. Especially with short sleeves.

    Officials had a timeless, classic look and the NFL messed it all up (I think the beer commercials DID have something to do with it, despite their denials).

    As for the Gator jerseys, yeah, I don’t think we’ll see the orange make a comeback anytime soon. But, just in case, I have a game-worn one from the 1984 SEC championship team. They sold them in the stadium store, just threw them in a big ol’ box. Didn’t make a big deal out of them. And I don’t remember what they cost, but I bought two of them and I was a poor college student. I have one left, an orange wide receiver’s jersey with a pocket sewn in the front.

  • steve | December 29, 2007 at 1:06 am |
  • steve | December 29, 2007 at 1:06 am |
  • KT | December 29, 2007 at 1:07 am |

    [quote comment=”193817″]Nice to see that Ken will be playing for the West in the JBL all-star game.

    We’ve got Shaq, Kobe, and LeBron. The JBL has…Ken.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t that be a last name in Japan? And not a first name?

    We have O’Neal, Bryant and James. They have Ken. Might be a last name.

    And Japan is a narrow island, but it runs kinda East/West. And their leagues aren’t divided East/West, they’re the Central League and the Pacific League, and as you can see from this map they’re fairly evenly distributed on the island (red are Central League teams, blue are Pacific League teams).

  • 808 | December 29, 2007 at 1:07 am |

    Got the word from a local sports radio station. Hawaii will wear new uniforms for the Sugar Bowl.

  • KT | December 29, 2007 at 1:08 am |

    Anyone know if the Duquesne Dukes wore throwbacks tonight?

  • LI Phil | December 29, 2007 at 1:12 am |

    [quote]an orange wide receiver’s jersey with a pocket sewn in the front.[/quote]

    that a butt pocket?

  • KT | December 29, 2007 at 1:29 am |

    No, a keep your hands warm pocket.

    Odd, I know, for a team from Florida. But the player in question had surgeon’s hands.

    Still does, actually. He’s a surgeon now.

  • LI Phil | December 29, 2007 at 1:44 am |
  • LI Phil | December 29, 2007 at 1:52 am |

    wrong pic for “demonstrative coaches”…krystkowiak lost

    my bad

  • James Craven | December 29, 2007 at 2:18 am |

    [quote comment=”193938″]Cool socks on Father Judge’s team[/quote]

    And very nerdy. They do the same socks with the football team, and they sell them at a local sportsing goods store, Lloyd Sixsmith’s.

  • chris | December 29, 2007 at 2:21 am |

    http://www.oefb.at/s...

    Back to the soccer kits…on page two of the blog check out the team photo of Austria.
    Why is #2’s chest number sewed on upside down?

  • rpt319 | December 29, 2007 at 4:42 am |

    [quote comment=”194134″][quote comment=”193817″]Nice to see that Ken will be playing for the West in the JBL all-star game.

    We’ve got Shaq, Kobe, and LeBron. The JBL has…Ken.[/quote]

    Wouldn’t that be a last name in Japan? And not a first name?

    We have O’Neal, Bryant and James. They have Ken. Might be a last name.

    And Japan is a narrow island, but it runs kinda East/West. And their leagues aren’t divided East/West, they’re the Central League and the Pacific League, and as you can see from this map they’re fairly evenly distributed on the island (red are Central League teams, blue are Pacific League teams).[/quote]

    I’m thinking the original poster stumbled upon the Central and Pacific League’s minor league the Eastern and Western Leagues. I am not sure why they made the divide that way, but I’m sure it was simply a way to group the teams. Much like the way the Pacific Coast League now includes New Orleans, the names Eastern and Western are simply names.

  • Jeremy Brahm | December 29, 2007 at 10:39 am |

    Japan does break itself into different regions, the big two population regions are called the Kantoh (Tokyo) and Kansai (Osaka). The pictograph (kanji) for the second character is East (toh) and West (sai). So translated it would be the West Gate (Kansai) and the East Gate (Kantoh).

    Draw a line for 550 miles WSW from Tokyo and you reach Fukuoka, and draw line 500 miles north to Sapporo and you have Japan in a nutshell. Japan is a big J with Tokyo as the elbow. West of Tokyo, essentially to Japanese means west and anything with Tokyo and north of Tokyo means east.

    Sumo wrestling has rankings based on east and west, the east wrestlers are considered the better of similar wrestlers (based on the record from the previous tournament). Yet, with this has nothing to do with geography at the present (historically yes) because wrestlers come from all over Japan and the majority of sumo stables are in the Tokyo area. Go figure.

    Here is a map of the JBL West and East teams
    JBL has 8 teams in a single division setup

    BJ-League has 10 teams in a 2 conference, East and West setup. Hence, these teams are just representing their conference like we have here with the NBA.

    The Eastern and Western League of minor league baseball in Japan were split with all of the 12 teams in the Pacific League and Central Leagues. There were six teams in the Tokyo area, (Seibu, Yomiuri, Yakult, Chiba, Yokohama and Nippon Ham (have since moved to Hokkaido) hence called the Eastern League, prior to the Rakuten Tohoku Golden Eagles existing. And there were six teams in the Western League, Hanshin, Softbank, Orix, Kintetsu, Chunichi and Hiroshima. After Orix and Kintetsu merged, there are only five teams in the Western League.

  • Jeremy Brahm | December 29, 2007 at 10:50 am |
  • Randy Miller | December 30, 2007 at 8:02 pm |

    At New Mexico, Stony Case was carrying on his high school number from the famous Odessa Permian team.

    Permian, the original Friday Night Lights team, has (or at least had) assigned its QBs numbers in the 20s for years and years.

  • Eric | February 23, 2008 at 2:17 am |

    As a football official I can state that knickers are not comfortable for everyone. I have very large calfs and thighs. (No, I’m not fat.) It’s very hard for me to buy knickers that aren’t tight. I also have a hard time getting socks that will stretch over my calfs without cutting off my circulation. I know I’m not the only one who feels this way about the knickers.

    The new pants offer options in cold weather. I can’t layer much under a pair of knickers. The pants would allow me a lot more layering options in cold, wet, and windy games. Frankly I don’t care how they look, I just know they would be a whole lot more comfortable for me than knickers. I hope they pants are adopted in all levels of football.