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Because an Illustration of Bobby Knight Throwing a Chair Wouldn’t Fit

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Got a note the other day from reader Chris Hurley, who describes himself as a lifelong Indiana University basketball fan and appears to have discovered an interesting detail on the team’s footwear. Here’s the scoop, in his own words:

Some of Indiana’s players wear what appears to be adidas’s “Lightspeed” line of shoes (mostly white with some red accents), and these players seem to have a replication of Indiana national championship banners on the inside of the right heel.

I first noticed it when I was reading the most recent copy of Sports Illustrated, which has a shot from the Indiana/Kentucky game from 12/8/07. If you look at Lance Stemler’s shoe here, you can see what looks like a rectangle with one side as an arrow pointing down.

Although the shape isn’t an exact replica of the banners they have hanging in Assembly Hall, it does match the oft-seen composite banner of the five championships.

I’ve never seen a college team commemorate its championships like this, but I’m pretty sure that’s what’s on the white shoes. In contrast, the players who wear the all-red adidas shoes do not appear to have a similar image.

I’ve never seen anything like this either, but then I’m neither a sneakerhead nor a particularly big college hoops fan, so I may be behind the curve on this one. In any case, I contacted Indiana’s athletic department, where media relations director J.D. Campbell confirmed that the graphic on the white sneakers is indeed the composite banner that Chris was referring to, and that the sneaker design was just introduced for this season.

Of course, the graphic on the sneaker isn’t an exact match of the banner. Just to refresh your memory, the banner design is here — and here’s a close-up of the sneaker. As you can see, there are several differences, but I trust you can all guess which one I find most interesting.

Research Project: I’m looking to compile a list of interesting memorial patches (or memorial decals, or other memorial gestures). No simple black armbands or anything routine like that — I’m looking for things that were more inspired. Historical examples are good, too. All contributions welcome here.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Fun article here about old NASL jerseys (with thanks to Joseph Spak). … Speaking of NASL jerseys, there’s a good site devoted to them here (as found by Harry Roth). … Good query from Bernie Langer, who writes: “The Phillies just signed free agent Chad Durbin. Since they already have J.D. Durbin on the team, this probably means a first initial on the back for Chad. But what about J.D.? One initial or two?” Hmmmmm. … Meanwhile, Steve Francis notes that brothers Andrei and Sergei Kostitsyn, who play for the Canadiens, are both initial-free. … The Rams retired Marshall Faulk’s jersey last night. Unfortunately, he chose purple neckwear for the occasion. … Ryan Burns sent along this shot of Donnie Baseball. “My best guess is it’s the 1984 International League all-star game,” he says. Anyone know more about it? … All this speculation about the Browns supposedly getting new unis next year (occasioned by a Kellen Winslow interview in Penthouse, which I’d say are a source and a venue of roughly equal repute) is getting out of hand. It’s all bullshit — the Brownies got new unis last season, which means they’re locked into their current design for at least three more years. But since we have a Clevelander on the non-payroll: Hey, Vince, could you please get an official comment from the team? … Great view here of the differing sleeve stripe treatments worn by the Redskins’ two QBs (thanks, Bryan). … Here’s something you don’t see every day: Ben Wallace wearing Zeljko Rebraca’s warm-ups (good find by Doug Mooney). … Think logo creep is inevitable? Then check out this article about a store specializing in unbranded, label-free products. … Latest installment of Joe Skiba’s video series, devoted to cold-weather preparations, is available on the Giants home page. … There’s a bit of a controversy about Roberto Luongo’s pads. … Here’s a first: The Grizzlies are going to wear a patch on their warm-ups in support of their mascot actor, who’s out with lymphoma. Details toward the end of this page (with thanks to Jon McKay). … If you need a last-minute Xmas gift idea, you could do a lot worse than this.

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Holiday Schedule: We’ll have our usual weekend discussion sessions, and an open disucssion on Christmas Day as well (mainly so all the Jewish readers can post comments about movies and Chinese food). Not sure yet about Monday — might post a regular entry, might just toss up a discussion photo, depending on how my weekend goes. Either way, regular content will definitely resume on the 26th. Okay? Okay!

 

151 comments to Because an Illustration of Bobby Knight Throwing a Chair Wouldn’t Fit

  • Kevin G. | December 21, 2007 at 8:57 am |

    I think the coolest memorial patch, even though it is technically not a patch, is the Bears “GSH” on their jerseys for George Halas. It’s a permanent fixture on the uniform.

  • Kevin G. | December 21, 2007 at 9:06 am |

    That picture of Mattingly has to be before 1984 because he won the AL batting title that year.

  • Mr. Man | December 21, 2007 at 9:13 am |

    Cool pics of the Republican and Democratic Presidential Candidates and their favorite baseball teams

    A lot of them are wearing hats or jerseys.

    http://homerderby.co...
    http://homerderby.co...

  • Dave from Indy | December 21, 2007 at 9:19 am |

    Check out the socks on the Rowdies!
    Stripped hosiery, green and gold, could be Paul’s dream come true.

  • SATCH | December 21, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    Why in the world would the championship years on the sneakers not even be in the correct order, as they are on the real bannner? 1987 and 1981 are switched. I mean that just seems like a glaring oversight, while the Adidas branding is just unpleasant.

  • TommyB | December 21, 2007 at 9:25 am |

    I love the fact that the site selling the logo stencils also sells a striping system that has large wheels for “rough terrain”

    I think if your field is rough enough to need this, you should invest in some landscaping equipment instead.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    nike (who else) created special sneakers for roger federer to wear at the 2007 wimbledon championships…each swiss cross represents a win…i believe he had similar shoes created for the 2007 US Open (with 3 crosses)

    imo guess they’ll add a 5th and 4th cross respectively this coming year, as federer again won both tourney’s

    im not sure if they do something similar for the aussie open

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 9:29 am |

    [quote comment=”189629″]nike (who else) created special sneakers for roger federer to wear at the 2007 wimbledon championships…each swiss cross represents a win…i believe he had similar shoes created for the 2007 US Open (with 3 crosses)

    imo guess they’ll add a 5th and 4th cross respectively this coming year, as federer again won both tourney’s

    im not sure if they do something similar for the aussie open[/quote]

    seems that link didn’t work

    try this…scroll down

    http://www.hypebeast...

  • Nicole | December 21, 2007 at 9:32 am |

    [quote comment=”189625″]Why in the world would the championship years on the sneakers not even be in the correct order, as they are on the real bannner? 1987 and 1981 are switched. I mean that just seems like a glaring oversight, while the Adidas branding is just unpleasant.[/quote]

    I was just about to say this. It’s really strange that it’s reversed. If you look on the shoe itself, the reflective looking material makes all the years and the 87 comes before the 81 in that list form, too.

    Just strange.

  • Roger Faso | December 21, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    Maybe Marshall Faulk is a Catholic.

    It is Advent, ya know.

  • Mark in Cincy | December 21, 2007 at 9:38 am |

    New logo for the Florence Freedom of the Pioneer League (baseball). Interesting tidbit from the article, the feathers that shape the eagle head also form an FF, standing for Florence Freedom.

  • Justin B | December 21, 2007 at 9:39 am |

    My favorite shoes were from the olympics a few years ago. (It is probably like 10 yrs ago now.)

  • Fez Whatley | December 21, 2007 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment=”189628″]I love the fact that the site selling the logo stencils also sells a striping system that has large wheels for “rough terrain”

    I think if your field is rough enough to need this, you should invest in some landscaping equipment instead.[/quote]
    ha ha

  • Robert | December 21, 2007 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment=”189629″]nike (who else) created special sneakers for roger federer to wear at the 2007 wimbledon championships…each swiss cross represents a win…i believe he had similar shoes created for the 2007 US Open (with 3 crosses)[/quote]

    That is a cool idea, but wouldn’t it make more sense to have the flags or logos of Federer’s vanquished opponents on the shoes, much in the way that fighter pilots showed off their kills?

  • Marty Met | December 21, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    What’s even better than the banner is the blind embossing of the championship years on the shoes. That is great, and would have been even better just to have the embossing and not the banner. GREAT KICKS!!!

  • Marty Met | December 21, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    What’s even better than the banner is the blind embossing of the championship years on the shoes. That is great, and would have been even better just to have the embossing and not the banner. GREAT KICKS!!!

  • Marty Met | December 21, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    What’s even better than the banner is the blind embossing of the championship years on the shoes. That is great, and would have been even better just to have the embossing and not the banner. GREAT KICKS!!!

  • Justin B | December 21, 2007 at 9:48 am |

    Green Bay patch. 2003.

  • Alan #44 | December 21, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    Didnt get a chance to comment yesterday, but Paul, I really feel that was a great story about logo creep. Puts everything into perspective.
    I had mentioned previously that my 7 year old daughter makes fun of me every time I wear my Yankees t-shirt with a swoosh on it. I am so proud.

  • Anthony Verna | December 21, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    I might be an Eagles fan. . .but. . .

    “Although the Browns should lose that silly Al Lerner emblem on their sleeves, which only reminds true Browns fans that it was on his plane that the agreement to move the team was signed on.”

    As a Case Western alumnus who saw the Browns leave after his freshman year in college, I can’t disagree with that.

  • Ryan Burns | December 21, 2007 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”189615″]That picture of Mattingly has to be before 1984 because he won the AL batting title that year.[/quote]

    That was part of my confusion, but if not, then what does the “1984” on the jersey represent?

  • Nick F | December 21, 2007 at 9:55 am |

    Winslow talking about the Browns’ uniform didn’t make any sense, Randy Lerner has made 100% effort to restore the original uni’s – gray facemask, old striping pattern, etc. Does he want a hideous Bengals type uniform?

    If we can just get them to use the striped socks ALL the time instead of the solid brown, it would be great!

  • Justi | December 21, 2007 at 9:55 am |
  • Shaftman | December 21, 2007 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”189651″][quote comment=”189615″]That picture of Mattingly has to be before 1984 because he won the AL batting title that year.[/quote]

    That was part of my confusion, but if not, then what does the “1984” on the jersey represent?[/quote]

    Why are we assuming that it says “1984”? I can’t really make out any number other than the “84”. Could it be “1884” as the uni’s are definitely old school?

  • Ryan B | December 21, 2007 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”189615″]That picture of Mattingly has to be before 1984 because he won the AL batting title that year.[/quote]
    It’s 1984. The IL’s centennial season was that year, and their all-star game was played against the Cleveland Indians in Columbus, Ohio. Don’t know why Mattingly was there – it’s definitely him in the picture.

  • Craig | December 21, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    That picture of Mattingly doesnt have “1984” on it. I see a “184”. Sure, the folds in the fabric might be obscuring something, the player behind him looks like he has 4 numbers on the right chest area. Could be “1884”, since this is clearly a throwback Uni.

  • Nick F | December 21, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    I agree with Anthony, the AL patch should go. Winslow really knows how to stir the pot!

  • interlockingtc | December 21, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”189649″]Didnt get a chance to comment yesterday, but Paul, I really feel that was a great story about logo creep. Puts everything into perspective.
    I had mentioned previously that my 7 year old daughter makes fun of me every time I wear my Yankees t-shirt with a swoosh on it. I am so proud.[/quote]
    I agree. Yesterday’s post was great. Thank you for articulating so well what I’ve been befuddled about for years.

    I was happy to see that I am not the only one who regularly uses a permanent marker to obscure lables on my clothing. I am not, and will never be, a billboard for some corporation.

  • kings33 | December 21, 2007 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”189669″] I am not, and will never be, a billboard for some corporation.[/quote]

    Not sure who you’re a fan of, but if you have a replica jersey or t-shirt, you just did.

  • Philly Al in NoCal | December 21, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    What? No airing of grievances for Festivus??

  • ryan c #40 | December 21, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    HEY GUYS! NOT uni-related… after today i’ll be off for the next 12 days! so, needless to say, i’ll be taking a little break from the internet too. should be on here and there, but nothing major. so i’m wishing you all a MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS, AND A HAPPY-SAFE NEW YEAR!!! best wishes to all of you! thanks for making this corner of the internet enjoyable!!!

    -ryan

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”189657″][quote comment=”189615″]That picture of Mattingly has to be before 1984 because he won the AL batting title that year.[/quote]
    It’s 1984. The IL’s centennial season was that year, and their all-star game was played against the Cleveland Indians in Columbus, Ohio. Don’t know why Mattingly was there – it’s definitely him in the picture.[/quote]

    found this…would this be describing this game?

    Source: UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL
    ROCHESTER, N.Y. — Mitch Webster of the Syracuse Chiefs drilled a two-run home run in the eighth inning Wednesday night to lead the Triple A International League All-Stars past the Rochester Red Wings 4-1. Webster connected off Red Wing reliever Rich Carlucci. The attendance of 2,378 was the lowest in 25 All-Star games, eclipsing the low-draw standard of 2,484 set in 1966 in Toronto for a game against the Boston Red Sox.

    Published on July 27, 1984, Page 2F, Miami Herald, The (FL)

  • AJ | December 21, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    I’m an IU student, and those IU-customized shoes are being sold at Finish Line in Bloomington. I did a quick search on Finish Line’s website and found similar shoes for adidas schools Kansas, UCLA, and Louisville. They are apparently part of the “Lightspeed Championship” series.

  • Pat | December 21, 2007 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”189655″][quote comment=”189651″][quote comment=”189615″]That picture of Mattingly has to be before 1984 because he won the AL batting title that year.[/quote]

    That was part of my confusion, but if not, then what does the “1984” on the jersey represent?[/quote]

    Why are we assuming that it says “1984”? I can’t really make out any number other than the “84”. Could it be “1884” as the uni’s are definitely old school?[/quote]

    Those must be his 1884 Nikes. I kid because I always get the same comments when I wear my Adidas cleats for vintage base ball games. You can see the different branded cleats from one of our games in this picture. I’m the one with no hat. (oh yea, and the kid with his hands on the bench has Nike pants on. Not right… you could at least have unbranded pants)

  • Kyle at IU | December 21, 2007 at 10:35 am |

    Well, imagine my surprise when I fire up UniWatch, and my basketball arena is featured in a huge picture across the top of the page. The best part is that, were i hard pressed to search the photo, I could find myself in there. : )

    I never did notice the thing about the shoes with the championships on them, but that is really neat now that I know (and one of those things that I’ll be bothering my friends about in games to come). One thing that does bother me that got brief mention is the white shoe vs. red shoe thing. DJ White wears the red shoes, and it looks really odd to have him out there with all of the other starters in the white shoes. The fellow you linked, Adam Ahlfeld, doesn’t get a lot of playing time, so that one doesn’t bother me quite as much.

  • Mike V. | December 21, 2007 at 10:35 am |

    “Badger” Bob Patch from the Pens

  • Roger Faso | December 21, 2007 at 10:37 am |
  • JMcanes | December 21, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    I may be a little behind but does anybody know what the different patches on the navy unis mean?

    http://sports.espn.g...

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Iggy | December 21, 2007 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”189653″]Winslow talking about the Browns’ uniform didn’t make any sense, Randy Lerner has made 100% effort to restore the original uni’s – gray facemask, old striping pattern, etc. Does he want a hideous Bengals type uniform?

    If we can just get them to use the striped socks ALL the time instead of the solid brown, it would be great![/quote]

    The part that scared me was how Winslow said he and Edwards want something closer to what the Broncos have – UGH!!! That’s an awful idea. The Broncos changed their classic unis to this monstrosity ten years ago and I wait every year for them to switch back! Please Cleveland, don’t change those classic unis. Why would Winslow spout off about this if there wasn’t a kernel of truth to it? I know he’s nutty, but is he that nutty? Maybe the Browns will have a silly alt uni or something? That too would be a terrible idea.

  • Joe | December 21, 2007 at 10:43 am |

    something cool i just found. Why wasn’t This on the list of one time use only jerseys!

  • scott | December 21, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    Tonight at 1:08am EST is Global Orgasm for Peace.

    http://www.globalorg...

  • Mark | December 21, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    Are the Rams trying to become the Titans. How many pants can they wear with those blue jerseys, and how long is it until we see this.

  • Joe | December 21, 2007 at 10:49 am |

    Twins 2004 Eloise Pohlad memorial patch, here.

  • Bendert | December 21, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    ESPN’s First Take used a cat named Francis to pick its bowl winners. Supposedly it picked Utah over Navy by eating out of a bowl with a Utah logo on it. But the interesting thing is, once he makes the pick, ESPN uses a stolen Clemson logo to mark the winner. You can tell because of the notch in the lower right hand corner.

  • ryan c #40 | December 21, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    “I love the fact that the site selling the logo stencils also sells a striping system that has large wheels for “rough terrain”
    I think if your field is rough enough to need this, you should invest in some landscaping equipment instead.”

    heinz field???

    i hate the browns… but don’t change those unis! i’ve rooted against them for SO long! haha

  • Tim Bangert | December 21, 2007 at 10:54 am |

    Seeing the picture of the Indiana basketball court reminded me of an old photo I saw of the 1978 NCAA Mens Final Four, which was at the St. Louis Checkerdome.

    Look at this picture: http://www.bigbluehi...

    The floor at the Checkerdome is the INDIANA basketball court. Any idea as to why this may have been?

  • Joe | December 21, 2007 at 10:55 am |

    Hey Paul check out This Website. It has a lot of different patches for ya!

  • Joe M | December 21, 2007 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”189692″]something cool i just found. Why wasn’t This on the list of one time use only jerseys![/quote]

    I would have to guess, since they were not used in the game that day is why they didn’t make the list.

    Also, I would expect they will be “used” again Opening Day 2008.

  • Rick | December 21, 2007 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”189686″]I may be a little behind but does anybody know what the different patches on the navy unis mean?

    http://sports.espn.g...

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Both the Navy and Army football teams wear active duty unit patches on their uniforms.

  • JM | December 21, 2007 at 11:03 am |

    I have a close friend in the Equipment room for the Browns who told me that is total crap. No new uniforms next year or in the near future. Learner loves the current uniforms and he likes simple traditional uniforms rather than the new age sh*t that some teams are currently wearing. This was a fluff piece generated by a reporter on a local TV station who usually does gossip reports and is not very reliable!

  • jere | December 21, 2007 at 11:03 am |

    wikipedia: “In 1984, the all-stars lost to the Cleveland Indians in 11 innings before 11,032 fans in Columbus, Ohio, to commemorate the league’s 100th anniversary.”

    It’s obviously a throwback uni, and it does say “1884.” (The guy behind him clearly proves it’s a four-digit number.)

    But, if it is that game, why would Mattingly, who played a full season in New York, have been there playing for the IL?

    Here’s my answer. The game was really from ’83. So Mattingly would’ve been there, and it would’ve been what they considered the 100th season. If 1884 was the first, 1983 would be the hundredth. And guess what? From the Miami Herald, Aug 9, 1983:

    “The International League will honor Cleveland President Gabe Paul, one of the minor league’s pioneers, when the IL All-Stars meet the Indians in Columbus … ”

    I think that’s the game wikipedia mentioned, but they had the wrong year. That’s my guess.

  • Tim Bangert | December 21, 2007 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”189701″]Seeing the picture of the Indiana basketball court reminded me of an old photo I saw of the 1978 NCAA Mens Final Four, which was at the St. Louis Checkerdome.

    Look at this picture: http://www.bigbluehi...

    The floor at the Checkerdome is the INDIANA basketball court. Any idea as to why this may have been?[/quote]

    Seek and I shall find… interesting tidbit on NCAA Final Four floors from Wikipedia:

    The winning team is traditionally given the floor from the championship venue to keep. What the school does with it varies: some schools sell pieces of it to fans, others simply put it in storage, and still others use it in their venues, such as Florida did in 2006, re-painting the RCA Dome hardwood and placing it in the O’Connell Center. The only exception to this was in 1978: for that year’s Final Four, the NCAA had to truck in Indiana’s court from Assembly Hall to the Checkerdome in St. Louis, as the basketball floor at that hockey arena had been warped as a result of water damage.[citation needed]

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”189695″]Are the Rams trying to become the Titans. How many pants can they wear with those blue jerseys, and how long is it until we see this.[/quote]

    that’s a great question…does anyone know if there is any restriction on the number of “alt” pants a team can wear? i know they’re limited to a total of three jerseys (the third either being the alt or a throwback)…the rams now have three pants colors (blue, gold, and white)

    and (i asked this last night too), how come the blue and white pants have stripes, but NOT the gold?

  • Justin B | December 21, 2007 at 11:08 am |

    Interesting article and patch on Red Auerbach.

  • jere | December 21, 2007 at 11:08 am |

    Okay, the problem with my last comment about Mattingly was that he played with the big club all through August and September that year. So, maybe he went back to Columbus for the All-Star game which happened to be on an off-day for the Yanks, as he’d played the first half in AAA and was named an All-Star? I don’t know, quit grillin’ me under these hot lights….

  • jere | December 21, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    This page does prove the game between the IL All-Stars and Indians commemorating the league’s 100th anniversary was indeed in ’83, not ’84. Maybe I’ll go change that in wikipedia. You know, if I have time.

    Yeah, I have time.

  • JM | December 21, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    Winslow talking about the Browns’ uniform didn’t make any sense, Randy Lerner has made 100% effort to restore the original uni’s – gray facemask, old striping pattern, etc. Does he want a hideous Bengals type uniform?

    If we can just get them to use the striped socks ALL the time instead of the solid brown, it would be great!

    Also…The Browns striped socks….They wore them against the Raiders earlier this year on the suggestion of my buddie who like all of us love them. They Browns laid an egg and the players and coaches pretty much said that’s it for those! The browns pretty much sold them all at equipment sales the last 2 years!

  • Bruce | December 21, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”189705″][quote comment=”189692″]something cool i just found. Why wasn’t This on the list of one time use only jerseys![/quote]

    I would have to guess, since they were not used in the game that day is why they didn’t make the list.

    Also, I would expect they will be “used” again Opening Day 2008.[/quote]

    They were used in the game that day, however they were only planned to be a one time thing (like the green unis they wore this year for Red Auerbach). I believe the discussion on one time unis was supposed to be for uniform changes or additions that were meant to be for longer than one game, but got such bad criticism after the first game that they were only used one.

  • Justin B | December 21, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    I especially like the Dan Mario patch.

  • B. Hill | December 21, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”189618″]Cool pics of the Republican and Democratic Presidential Candidates and their favorite baseball teams

    A lot of them are wearing hats or jerseys.

    http://homerderby.co...
    http://homerderby.co...

    Beat you to it :)

    comment #159 …

  • Justin B | December 21, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    VT patch worm by AI.

  • Tim Bangert | December 21, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    The Bradley University soccer team wore a memorial to fallen teammate Danny Dahlquist on their sleeve and below their uniform numbers this year.
    http://www.bubraves....
    http://www.bubraves....
    Not sure exactly what is on it, but thought it was unique in both placement below the numbers and on the left sleeve.

  • Terry Mark | December 21, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    That is a great find by Chris Hurley and I particularly like the subtle embossing of the championship years on the leather.

    I might have to squeeze a little more money out of the budget to buy myself a pair.

  • Johnny O | December 21, 2007 at 11:34 am |

    Brewers in 2001 to commemorate those who died while building Miller Park.

    Packers Celebrate 50 years of Lambeau Field (logo designed by one of my classmates from St. Norbert College in De Pere, WI)

    [quote comment=”189675″]What? No airing of grievances for Festivus??[/quote]

    Festivus is on December 23rd.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | December 21, 2007 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”189647″]What’s even better than the banner is the blind embossing of the championship years on the shoes. That is great, and would have been even better just to have the embossing and not the banner. GREAT KICKS!!![/quote]

    I like them both on there…but none the less I think they’re pretty fresh.

    “The Rams retired Marshall Faulk’s jersey last night. Unfortunately, he chose purple neckwear for the occasion.”
    -Wow, have people shunned purple on this site? Marshall was looking very sharp last night! Purple happens to be my favorite color (oddly enough when I’m a Bears fan). You don’t have to wear your team’s colors when attending a ceremony.

  • jere | December 21, 2007 at 11:38 am |

    Looking at the dates the Indians and Mattingly had off in August ’83, I noticed the 18th. Cleveland had an off-day in the middle of a homestand (and were therefore in the same state at where the game was), and the Yanks also had an off-day in mid-homestand. So Donnie flew out to Columbus for the game if that was the case.

    Then I finally struck gold with an article from the Syracuse paper from August 19th, which says

    “IL Stars lose to Indians COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) The International League resumes its regular…”

    So that’s my final answer. The picture is 8/18/83, at Columbus, IL All-Stars vs. Cleveland Indians, 1884 unis worn to commemorate 100th anniversary, Mattingly flown in from NY to participate, as he played first half of year at Columbus and was an All-Star.

  • Kek | December 21, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    In the spirit of the initial-free Kostitsyn brothers, I don’t why I never noticed but the Steelers have a possible Full NOB situation with Anthony and Aaron Smith. Prior to Aaron’s season-ending injury these guys were on the field together most of the time.

    Of course, post-guarantee Anthony Smith has lost his starting job so there are fewer chances that a “SMITH” is on the field. O-Lineman Marvel Smith is also without initial.

    As interesting as the column about intials and FNOB is, it would also be interesting to do a look at situations that ignored it.

    Another Pittsburgh quirk. Don Robinson was the last remaining Pirate from the ’79 World Series team. At that time he was teammates with the late Bill Robinson so they wore D. and B. However, long after Bill was traded, Don opted to keep the initial.

    this would be another interesting topic, players that kept an initial when not necessary or in some cases, entire teams wore first initials regardless of whether or not there was duplication of the last name.

    Then there was the cricket team a few years ago that fielded an entire team of “PATEL”s!!!!

  • GoTerriers | December 21, 2007 at 11:45 am |

    [quote comment=”189735″]

    So that’s my final answer. The picture is 8/18/83, at Columbus, IL All-Stars vs. Cleveland Indians, 1884 unis worn to commemorate 100th anniversary, Mattingly flown in from NY to participate, as he played first half of year at Columbus and was an All-Star.[/quote]

    Not possible . . .August 18, 1983 was the resumption of the infamous “Pine Tar Game” between the Yankees and the Royals and Mattingly finished up that game as the Yanks second baseman (FWIW, Ron Guidry played centerfield for the last 4 outs).

  • NateL | December 21, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    Marshall Faulk’s choice of neckwear was excellent. Purple ties are fine…purple uniforms not so much.

  • Minna H. | December 21, 2007 at 11:48 am |

    Last night’s Wild! game was the best. Not only were they wearing the understated Christmas unis (love those things), but Marian Gaborik scored FIVE goals, and two from the air. Looking good and shooting well. What a game.

  • Minna H. | December 21, 2007 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”189741″]Marshall Faulk’s choice of neckwear was excellent. Purple ties are fine…purple uniforms not so much.[/quote]

    NateL, I gotta agree. I thought the purple tie looked snazzy.

  • Brendan | December 21, 2007 at 12:05 pm |

    Re: Redskins’ QBs

    Dude on the right (17) doesn’t have the NFL Equipment logo on his pants. He also is wearing a different helmet than the other QB. The only thing they have in common is that their towels are the same.

  • Jeff E. | December 21, 2007 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”189741″]Marshall Faulk’s choice of neckwear was excellent. Purple ties are fine…purple uniforms not so much.[/quote]

    I agree. I like purple as an accent color. Now, if Faulk had been wearing a purple suit..Yikes!!

  • Mark | December 21, 2007 at 12:09 pm |

    Personally, though the gold pants were most used before this year, I think the rams look best with blue on white (home) or white on blue (road). That’s my opinion anyway.

    Yeah I wonder about the rules regarding pants and jersey combos. Obviously the Titans proved they were very loose last year. But some teams have one color or pants (Packers, Steelers), some have two but only where one with a particulare jersey (like the Patriots), some have two that they mix around (Eagles, Jets, etc), and then there’s the few teams with three pants.

  • Chance | December 21, 2007 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”189733″]Brewers in 2001 to commemorate those who died while building Miller Park.
    [/quote]

    That’s to commemorate the opening of Miller Park, not the three workers who died.

    Here’s the patch which was worn during the last 2 1/2 months of the 1999 season (on the road as well) to honor them.

  • jere | December 21, 2007 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”189740″]

    Not possible . . .August 18, 1983 was the resumption of the infamous “Pine Tar Game” between the Yankees and the Royals and Mattingly finished up that game as the Yanks second baseman (FWIW, Ron Guidry played centerfield for the last 4 outs).[/quote]

    Was the completion of that game at night? If so, my answer still stands. He could’ve played in Columbus in the day and returned for 8:00 in NYC. Or if it was 1:00 in NY, he still could’ve got out to Columbus for a later start, as they only played a little while in NY. I can’t seem to find if they did it at night or in the daytime.

  • GoTerriers | December 21, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”189748″]
    I agree. I like purple as an accent color. Now, if Faulk had been wearing a purple suit..Yikes!![/quote]

    If Faulk had been wearing a purple suit . . .he’d actually have been Michael Irvin!

  • Rick | December 21, 2007 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”189754″][quote comment=”189740″]

    Not possible . . .August 18, 1983 was the resumption of the infamous “Pine Tar Game” between the Yankees and the Royals and Mattingly finished up that game as the Yanks second baseman (FWIW, Ron Guidry played centerfield for the last 4 outs).[/quote]

    Was the completion of that game at night? If so, my answer still stands. He could’ve played in Columbus in the day and returned for 8:00 in NYC. Or if it was 1:00 in NY, he still could’ve got out to Columbus for a later start, as they only played a little while in NY. I can’t seem to find if they did it at night or in the daytime.[/quote]

    Is it at all possible that it isn’t actually Mattingly?

  • Papke | December 21, 2007 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”189695″]Are the Rams trying to become the Titans. How many pants can they wear with those blue jerseys, and how long is it until we see this.[/quote]
    the reason the butt rams suck so much is their constant uniform changes. Please just bring back the gold pants and fire Linehan

  • Kevin Dumphy | December 21, 2007 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”189747″]Re: Redskins’ QBs

    Dude on the right (17) doesn’t have the NFL Equipment logo on his pants. He also is wearing a different helmet than the other QB. The only thing they have in common is that their towels are the same.[/quote]

    He’s just wearing a different helmet because it’s a non-Ridell model, that’s why there’s the little “R” you usually see on Joe Gibbs’s hat. Paul pointed this out in an ESPN (I think, maybe here) column a few weeks ago.

  • jere | December 21, 2007 at 12:27 pm |

    From the Daily News Subway Squawkers blog: “I would have gone to the half-inning completion of the game, on August 18, 1983, but I had a prior obligation – tickets for the Police concert at Shea Stadium that same night.”

    So, from that person’s recollection, it had to have been done at night. Which would’ve been 8:00 for the Yanks in those days. So I think Mattingly played in Columbus that day and easily made it back to NY for an 8:00 one-inning game. (It’s not like Big Stein didn’t have a plane ready to fly to/from Columbus at any moment back then…)

    “Is it at all possible that it isn’t actually Mattingly?”

    I’d bet anything that’s Don Mattingly.

  • Nuk | December 21, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    Canucks patch – “2 Pts F.G.”: for the owner of the team Frank Griffiths who died April 7, 1994 – before the Canucks run to the Stanley Cup Finals that year.

  • jere | December 21, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    And the Police concert was definitely at night. Stub here.

  • felix | December 21, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    I was going to mention the TC/Microphone patch that the Blue Jays wore, but you already covered that.

  • GoTerriers | December 21, 2007 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”189754″][quote comment=”189740″]

    Not possible . . .August 18, 1983 was the resumption of the infamous “Pine Tar Game” between the Yankees and the Royals and Mattingly finished up that game as the Yanks second baseman (FWIW, Ron Guidry played centerfield for the last 4 outs).[/quote]

    Was the completion of that game at night? If so, my answer still stands. He could’ve played in Columbus in the day and returned for 8:00 in NYC. Or if it was 1:00 in NY, he still could’ve got out to Columbus for a later start, as they only played a little while in NY. I can’t seem to find if they did it at night or in the daytime.[/quote]

    True . . .I seem to remember that the resumption was a daytime affair and IIRC, the Yankees were going to charge regular admission to see the 4 outs played (they changed their mind and didn’t charge admission . . .the only time in his life that Boss Steinbrenner passed up a chance to make a buck!)
    According to Retrosheet.org, Mattingly played in the resupmtion of the Pine-Tar Affair on 8/18 (the original game was a day game, but no info on the last 4 outs). Mattingly next played the following day (8/19) at Yankee Stadium, a night game which the Yanks won 11-6 over the California Angels. I guess it’s possible (maybe even probable?) that Mattingly played 4 outs in the afternoon, flew to Columbus, played in an All-Star game, then flew back to NY for the next regular game vs. the Angels.
    I dunno . . .

  • Nick F | December 21, 2007 at 12:49 pm |

    Thanks for the Browns info, JM! I could not believe that there was even a thought of a Bronco type uniform.

  • jere | December 21, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”189767″] I guess it’s possible (maybe even probable?) that Mattingly played 4 outs in the afternoon, flew to Columbus, played in an All-Star game, then flew back to NY for the next regular game vs. the Angels.
    I dunno . . .[/quote]

    What’s so cool about this is that we will have uncovered another piece of trivia about the Pine Tar Game that no one seems to know. Also, maybe that guy who collects the pocket schedules could pull out an ’83 Cleveland so we can at least prove that’s when the game was. (I know the Red Sox old annual game vs. Pawtucket used to be listed on their schedule.)

  • Nick F | December 21, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    Thanks for the Browns info, JM! I could not believe that there was even a thought of a Bronco type uniform.

  • Nick F | December 21, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    Thanks for the Browns info, JM! I could not believe that there was even a thought of a Bronco type uniform.

  • Nick F | December 21, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    Thanks for the Browns info, JM! I could not believe that there was even a thought of a Bronco type uniform.

  • felix | December 21, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    Our pal Teebz has a three-part entry on all things patchy in hockey, too. The Leafs’ King Clancy memorial is on page three.

    One Two Three

  • Cork | December 21, 2007 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”189651″][quote comment=”189615″]That picture of Mattingly has to be before 1984 because he won the AL batting title that year.[/quote]

    That was part of my confusion, but if not, then what does the “1984” on the jersey represent?[/quote]
    Just a guess, but I think that the Jersey says “1884” and the game was in 1983, which would have been the 100th year of the IL.

    Donnie Baseball played for the Yankees for the first week of 1983, but was back in the minors and wasnt recalled until June 21. He was hitting .340 for the Clippers up to the point of his recall so he was most likely on the IL all-star team in 1983, which would have been near the end of June.

  • josh | December 21, 2007 at 12:59 pm |

    Not possible . . .August 18, 1983 was the resumption of the infamous “Pine Tar Game” between the Yankees and the Royals and Mattingly finished up that game as the Yanks second baseman (FWIW, Ron Guidry played centerfield for the last 4 outs).

    A left handed second baseman? I’m having an impossible time believing that.

  • GoTerriers | December 21, 2007 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”189778″]Not possible . . .August 18, 1983 was the resumption of the infamous “Pine Tar Game” between the Yankees and the Royals and Mattingly finished up that game as the Yanks second baseman (FWIW, Ron Guidry played centerfield for the last 4 outs).

    A left handed second baseman? I’m having an impossible time believing that.[/quote]

    Ah, but it happened . . .Billy Martin was “upset” that they had to finish the game and protested by playing Donnie Baseball at 2B and Guidry in CF (in place of Jerry Mumphrey who had been traded to the Astros in the intervening weeks).

  • GoTerriers | December 21, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”189780″][quote comment=”189778″]Not possible . . .August 18, 1983 was the resumption of the infamous “Pine Tar Game” between the Yankees and the Royals and Mattingly finished up that game as the Yanks second baseman (FWIW, Ron Guidry played centerfield for the last 4 outs).

    A left handed second baseman? I’m having an impossible time believing that.[/quote]

    Ah, but it happened . . .Billy Martin was “upset” that they had to finish the game and protested by playing Donnie Baseball at 2B and Guidry in CF (in place of Jerry Mumphrey who had been traded to the Astros in the intervening weeks).[/quote]

    Sorry, I guess I should offer something more concrete than an anecdote. Here’s a link to the boxscore of the game.

  • Peter | December 21, 2007 at 1:26 pm |

    Follow up to the Luongo thing, Kay Whitmore of the NHL’s equipment police was on the radio today and said that Luongo’s pads are perfectly legal, all goalie equipment is sent to the central office before it goes to the players and has to meet specifications. The league also conducts surprise post game inspections. Whitmore pointed out that Turco and Smith both wear the same RBK pads as Luongo and have the same knee pad, Roberto just wears it a little looser. He also said that a mosquito could push that pad over so it wouldn’t stop a puck, and it’s designed to protect the knee against the Mario Lemieux bank shot.

  • Joe from WV | December 21, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”189692″]something cool i just found. Why wasn’t This on the list of one time use only jerseys![/quote]

    Because it was never intended to be worn more than once.

  • Peter | December 21, 2007 at 1:44 pm |

    Oh and a thought occurs to me about memorial patches. I don’t mean to be a grinch so close to Christmas but don’t uniform patches sometimes ring a little hollow. Yeah it’s great that the team is doing something, but to me it seems a little weird when a team has a heartfelt memorial video montage before a game and then everything suddenly goes back to normal. With the patches, if every player is made to wear them it doesn’t seem as genuine. Like with the Vancouver one, were the players that close to the owner? An act like the Redskins playing 10 men on first down was much more meaningful in my eyes. The same goes with players who chose to continue wearing the Sean Taylor Decal or the Pat Tillman decals after the more general use had ended. But then I generally wonder about people who show up as mournful friends in the wake of a famous death, and whether they were actually close the person involved or just wanted the sympathy and attention. Does this make me cynical?

  • Jerico | December 21, 2007 at 1:49 pm |

    If this actually materializes, they might need to rename Bellotti Bold.

  • Alex Chiu | December 21, 2007 at 1:50 pm |

    the Hoosiers sneakers along with other adidas school are available on Eastbay

    http://www.eastbay.c...

  • josh | December 21, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    Not possible . . .August 18, 1983 was the resumption of the infamous “Pine Tar Game” between the Yankees and the Royals and Mattingly finished up that game as the Yanks second baseman (FWIW, Ron Guidry played centerfield for the last 4 outs).

    A left handed second baseman? I’m having an impossible time believing that. Ah, but it happened . . .Billy Martin was “upset” that they had to finish the game and protested by playing Donnie Baseball at 2B and Guidry in CF (in place of Jerry Mumphrey who had been traded to the Astros in the intervening weeks).

    Sorry, I guess I should offer something more concrete than an anecdote. Here’s a link to the boxscore of the game.

    Thanks for the concrete. This just proves that Billy Martin was not only crazy, but stupid to boot. He has a hissy fit, and the outlet for it is to put the up and coming face of the franchise in a position where having to turn a double play just might get him killed? Shrewd.

  • Kenny | December 21, 2007 at 2:12 pm |

    How bout this for a memorial patch:

    The Grizzlies beat the Spurs last night, but their mascot wasn’t there. Ronald Tillery of the Memphis Commercial Appeal: “The man who wears the Grizz costume and serves as the team’s mascot is taking a leave of absence to deal with a medical issue. Eric McMahon was recently diagnosed with Hodgkin’s lymphoma and will be out indefinitely to undergo treatment. The team will not replace McMahon during his absence, so Grizz will be absent at any community appearances for the foreseeable future. Players, meanwhile, will wear a 00 patch on their warm-ups representing Grizz’s jersey number to show support for McMahon. ‘I’d like to thank the Grizzlies organization for all their support as I begin treatment for Hodgkin’s lymphoma,’ McMahon said in a statement.”

    As seen here

  • Chance | December 21, 2007 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”189793″][quote comment=”189692″]something cool i just found. Why wasn’t This on the list of one time use only jerseys![/quote]

    Because it was never intended to be worn more than once.[/quote]

    In fact, it wasn’t ever worn in a game, only for the pre-game celebrations.

  • Randy Williams | December 21, 2007 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”189724″]Winslow talking about the Browns’ uniform didn’t make any sense, Randy Lerner has made 100% effort to restore the original uni’s – gray facemask, old striping pattern, etc. Does he want a hideous Bengals type uniform?

    If we can just get them to use the striped socks ALL the time instead of the solid brown, it would be great!

    Also…The Browns striped socks….They wore them against the Raiders earlier this year on the suggestion of my buddie who like all of us love them. They Browns laid an egg and the players and coaches pretty much said that’s it for those! The browns pretty much sold them all at equipment sales the last 2 years![/quote]
    I. We need to know when and where these equipment sales are. Striped socks for ALL of us!

  • Joe H | December 21, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”189801″]Not possible . . .August 18, 1983 was the resumption of the infamous “Pine Tar Game” between the Yankees and the Royals and Mattingly finished up that game as the Yanks second baseman (FWIW, Ron Guidry played centerfield for the last 4 outs).

    A left handed second baseman? I’m having an impossible time believing that. Ah, but it happened . . .Billy Martin was “upset” that they had to finish the game and protested by playing Donnie Baseball at 2B and Guidry in CF (in place of Jerry Mumphrey who had been traded to the Astros in the intervening weeks).

    Sorry, I guess I should offer something more concrete than an anecdote. Here’s a link to the boxscore of the game.

    Thanks for the concrete. This just proves that Billy Martin was not only crazy, but stupid to boot. He has a hissy fit, and the outlet for it is to put the up and coming face of the franchise in a position where having to turn a double play just might get him killed? Shrewd.[/quote]

    The key to figuring out the Mattingly picture rests on his head. I think the Clippers only wore the pill-box style hat for 1 year, I just can’t figure out which one. Figure that out and you will know what year that photo is from since Don’s wearing it.

  • S.W.P. | December 21, 2007 at 2:29 pm |

    The Saskatchewan Junior A’s Melville Millionaires have a 1915 throwback. Game photos here.

  • Robb | December 21, 2007 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”189750″]Personally, though the gold pants were most used before this year, I think the rams look best with blue on white (home) or white on blue (road). That’s my opinion anyway.

    Yeah I wonder about the rules regarding pants and jersey combos. Obviously the Titans proved they were very loose last year. But some teams have one color or pants (Packers, Steelers), some have two but only where one with a particulare jersey (like the Patriots), some have two that they mix around (Eagles, Jets, etc), and then there’s the few teams with three pants.[/quote]

    Good call on the Rams uniforms, I think I’ll die the day the Rams try gold-on-gold like the 49ers did two or three seasons ago.
    The Patriots did wear navy-on-navy at least once, but they lost 28-10.

  • Iggy | December 21, 2007 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”189819″][quote comment=”189750″]Personally, though the gold pants were most used before this year, I think the rams look best with blue on white (home) or white on blue (road). That’s my opinion anyway.

    Yeah I wonder about the rules regarding pants and jersey combos. Obviously the Titans proved they were very loose last year. But some teams have one color or pants (Packers, Steelers), some have two but only where one with a particulare jersey (like the Patriots), some have two that they mix around (Eagles, Jets, etc), and then there’s the few teams with three pants.[/quote]

    Good call on the Rams uniforms, I think I’ll die the day the Rams try gold-on-gold like the 49ers did two or three seasons ago.
    The Patriots did wear navy-on-navy at least once, but they lost 28-10.[/quote]

    When did the 49ers wear gold on gold unis?? I missed that.

  • Bruce | December 21, 2007 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”189819″][quote comment=”189750″]Personally, though the gold pants were most used before this year, I think the rams look best with blue on white (home) or white on blue (road). That’s my opinion anyway.

    Yeah I wonder about the rules regarding pants and jersey combos. Obviously the Titans proved they were very loose last year. But some teams have one color or pants (Packers, Steelers), some have two but only where one with a particulare jersey (like the Patriots), some have two that they mix around (Eagles, Jets, etc), and then there’s the few teams with three pants.[/quote]

    Good call on the Rams uniforms, I think I’ll die the day the Rams try gold-on-gold like the 49ers did two or three seasons ago.
    The Patriots did wear navy-on-navy at least once, but they lost 28-10.[/quote]

    I think the gold jersey with either blue or white pants would work though, I think there are too many teams with dark blue jerseys in the NFL already.

  • Teebz | December 21, 2007 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”189776″]Our pal Teebz has a three-part entry on all things patchy in hockey, too. The Leafs’ King Clancy memorial is on page three.

    One Two Three[/quote]

    Hey, thanks for the links, Felix. :o)

    Lots of memorial patches in there. The 9/11 ones are especially touching since only certain teams wore them.

  • Collin | December 21, 2007 at 2:48 pm |

    I’m hoping someone in the uniwatch community might be able to help. I’m looking for an Ernie Digregorio Buffalo Braves jersey and can’t seem to locate one. Any thoughts on where to look? A Celtics one would be fine too, but not quite what I’m after. Thanks for the help!

  • Iggy | December 21, 2007 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”189823″][quote comment=”189819″][quote comment=”189750″]Personally, though the gold pants were most used before this year, I think the rams look best with blue on white (home) or white on blue (road). That’s my opinion anyway.

    Yeah I wonder about the rules regarding pants and jersey combos. Obviously the Titans proved they were very loose last year. But some teams have one color or pants (Packers, Steelers), some have two but only where one with a particulare jersey (like the Patriots), some have two that they mix around (Eagles, Jets, etc), and then there’s the few teams with three pants.[/quote]

    Good call on the Rams uniforms, I think I’ll die the day the Rams try gold-on-gold like the 49ers did two or three seasons ago.
    The Patriots did wear navy-on-navy at least once, but they lost 28-10.[/quote]

    I think the gold jersey with either blue or white pants would work though, I think there are too many teams with dark blue jerseys in the NFL already.[/quote]

    I agree. Gold with white pants might be nice. Reminds me, you know who has great unis? The GA Tech Yellow Jackets football team. I love the gold helmets, gold jerseys and white pants. I agree that we need fewer navy/dark blue jerseys in the NFL and I’d say all sports actually.

  • Bruce | December 21, 2007 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”189827″][quote comment=”189823″][quote comment=”189819″][quote comment=”189750″]Personally, though the gold pants were most used before this year, I think the rams look best with blue on white (home) or white on blue (road). That’s my opinion anyway.

    Yeah I wonder about the rules regarding pants and jersey combos. Obviously the Titans proved they were very loose last year. But some teams have one color or pants (Packers, Steelers), some have two but only where one with a particulare jersey (like the Patriots), some have two that they mix around (Eagles, Jets, etc), and then there’s the few teams with three pants.[/quote]

    Good call on the Rams uniforms, I think I’ll die the day the Rams try gold-on-gold like the 49ers did two or three seasons ago.
    The Patriots did wear navy-on-navy at least once, but they lost 28-10.[/quote]

    I think the gold jersey with either blue or white pants would work though, I think there are too many teams with dark blue jerseys in the NFL already.[/quote]

    I agree. Gold with white pants might be nice. Reminds me, you know who has great unis? The GA Tech Yellow Jackets football team. I love the gold helmets, gold jerseys and white pants. I agree that we need fewer navy/dark blue jerseys in the NFL and I’d say all sports actually.[/quote]

    I was actually thinking about GT or even UCF for the gold jersey / white pants combo. I think it might be good with the dark pants too, except that might be confusing for home games where the away team would have to wear white.

  • TOG | December 21, 2007 at 3:07 pm |

    Lots’o’patches on the 2008 NY Yankees unis…

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”189815″]The key to figuring out the Mattingly picture rests on his head. I think the Clippers only wore the pill-box style hat for 1 year, I just can’t figure out which one. Figure that out and you will know what year that photo is from since Don’s wearing it.[/quote]

    are you sure that’s donnie baseball? doesn’t really look like him, and i don’t recall mattingly batting right-handed

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”189839″][quote comment=”189815″]The key to figuring out the Mattingly picture rests on his head. I think the Clippers only wore the pill-box style hat for 1 year, I just can’t figure out which one. Figure that out and you will know what year that photo is from since Don’s wearing it.[/quote]

    are you sure that’s donnie baseball? doesn’t really look like him, and i don’t recall mattingly batting right-handed[/quote]

    edit: or was the picture you referenced the one paul posted, and NOT the one you linked? (in other words, was the one you linked merely representative of the pill-box hat worn in that year, not that the picture itself was mattingly)

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 3:19 pm |

    hmmm…

    perhaps this answers the “year” in question?

  • GoTerriers | December 21, 2007 at 3:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”189840″][quote comment=”189839″][quote comment=”189815″]The key to figuring out the Mattingly picture rests on his head. I think the Clippers only wore the pill-box style hat for 1 year, I just can’t figure out which one. Figure that out and you will know what year that photo is from since Don’s wearing it.[/quote]

    are you sure that’s donnie baseball? doesn’t really look like him, and i don’t recall mattingly batting right-handed[/quote]

    edit: or was the picture you referenced the one paul posted, and NOT the one you linked? (in other words, was the one you linked merely representative of the pill-box hat worn in that year, not that the picture itself was mattingly)[/quote]
    The picture that Joe posted is of the immortal Steve “Bye-Bye” Balboni and was used to illustrate the pill-box cap that the Columbus Clippers wore.
    THISis the picture to which Paul linked in the ticker . . .

  • Shaftman | December 21, 2007 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”189842″]hmmm…

    perhaps this answers the “year” in question?[/quote]

    Methinks if it was an ’84 card then the game must have been during the ’83 season.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 3:25 pm |

    any collectors out there recognize this card?

    looks like donnie’s wearing the pillbox

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”189846″]any collectors out there recognize this card?

    looks like donnie’s wearing the pillbox[/quote]

    FUCK…nevermind…obviously that’s NOT a pillbox hat…stupid ass moi

  • Joe H | December 21, 2007 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”189844″][quote comment=”189840″][quote comment=”189839″][quote comment=”189815″]The key to figuring out the Mattingly picture rests on his head. I think the Clippers only wore the pill-box style hat for 1 year, I just can’t figure out which one. Figure that out and you will know what year that photo is from since Don’s wearing it.[/quote]

    are you sure that’s donnie baseball? doesn’t really look like him, and i don’t recall mattingly batting right-handed[/quote]

    edit: or was the picture you referenced the one paul posted, and NOT the one you linked? (in other words, was the one you linked merely representative of the pill-box hat worn in that year, not that the picture itself was mattingly)[/quote]
    The picture that Joe posted is of the immortal Steve “Bye-Bye” Balboni and was used to illustrate the pill-box cap that the Columbus Clippers wore.
    THISis the picture to which Paul linked in the ticker . . .[/quote]

    it was merely representative of the pill-box hat worn in that year…looks like they wore that hat in 83.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 4:08 pm |

    while searching for that mattingly year, i came across this pretty cool clipper history…some great pics, including the one joe posted of balboni, plus young posada, jeets, mariano, bernie…good shit

    and some more reference on the pine tar game

    [quote]On August 18 (a scheduled off day for both teams), the game was resumed from the point of Brett’s home run, with about 1,200 fans in attendance. Martin symbolically protested the continuation of the game by putting pitcher Ron Guidry in center field and first baseman Don Mattingly at second base. Mattingly, a lefty, became the majors’ first southpaw second baseman since Oakland’s Gonzalo Marques a decade earlier; there has been one only lefty middle infielder in a big-league game since (Thad Bosley, in 1987).

    Before the first pitch to Hal McRae (who followed Brett in the lineup), Martin challenged Brett’s home run on the grounds that Brett had not touched all the bases, and maintained that there was no way for the umpires (a different crew than the one who worked July 24) to dispute this. But umpire Davey Phillips was ready for Martin, producing an affidavit signed by the July 24 umpires stating that Brett had indeed touched all the bases. An irate Martin continued to argue with the umpires and was ejected from the game. Yankees reliever George Frazier struck McRae out to finally end the top of the ninth, twenty-five days after it had begun. Dan Quisenberry then got New York out 1-2-3 in the bottom of the ninth to preserve the Royals’ 5-4 win.[/quote]

  • Brendan | December 21, 2007 at 4:11 pm |

    Skiba is going to get fined. He showed UA pants at the start of his segment and that is strictly forbidden. Does anyone know the rule about non RBK stuff? Are they allowed to wear stuff that RBK doesn’t make and show the logos?

  • Shane | December 21, 2007 at 4:28 pm |

    I’m hoping someone didn’t beat me to this:

    This season the Canucks have a record of 1812-4 and are tied for first place in the Northwest Division with the Minnesota Wild and the Colorado Avalanche, with the Calgary Flames one point behind.

    Goddamn that Northwest Division is good. I mean, I knew it was competitive but… wow.

    Happy holidays, all.

  • pafrican | December 21, 2007 at 4:42 pm |

    Rumor has it Arizona State will wear maroon helmets in the Holiday Bowl. Also possibility that Sparky is taken off the helmet and replaced with the interlocking “AS” featured mainly in baseball uniforms.

    No link, just rumors for now. Allegedly Coach Erickson was going to do it during the year but did not want to interfere with the win streak.

  • Art | December 21, 2007 at 4:57 pm |

    As a die-hard Steeler fan, I miss the days when the Browns wore their orange pants. Anybody else miss the orange pants. I think they are classy!

  • felix | December 21, 2007 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”189825″][quote comment=”189776″]Our pal Teebz has a three-part entry on all things patchy in hockey, too. The Leafs’ King Clancy memorial is on page three.

    One Two Three[/quote]

    Hey, thanks for the links, Felix. :o)

    Lots of memorial patches in there. The 9/11 ones are especially touching since only certain teams wore them.[/quote]

    No problemo, chief. I was looking for the King Clancy one and I found your incredibly detailed entry. Figured it warranted mentioning, even if people do gloss over the hockey posts.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 5:11 pm |

    2008 browns?

    that would be worse than the orange pants

    and remember charlie hustle in the expos’s pillbox & velcro sneaks?

    this is worse

  • Leo | December 21, 2007 at 5:14 pm |

    Since I’ve become enthralled by this Mattingly jersey today and have no better guesses than anyone else, I’ve decided to write to the man himself at his personal web site. According to the site, he normally gets back to people in 24-48 hours. Here’s hoping!

  • Mets Fan AZ | December 21, 2007 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”189891″]2008 browns?

    that would be worse than the orange pants

    and remember charlie hustle in the expos’s pillbox & velcro sneaks?

    this is worse[/quote]
    that’s GREAT! actually i like the brownie, the stripes and the helmet. the bronco stripe is horrible and i like crennel’s head

  • felix | December 21, 2007 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”189891″]2008 browns?

    that would be worse than the orange pants

    and remember charlie hustle in the expos’s pillbox & velcro sneaks?

    this is worse[/quote]

    Not as bad as that “Browns” link, I think my retinas just detached themselves.

  • odessa steps | December 21, 2007 at 5:27 pm |

    I’m an IU alum, but I don’t know if I could bring myself to wear those shoes.

  • Patrick | December 21, 2007 at 6:15 pm |

    An Expos pillbox cap?! I must have one! BTW, here is a link to the new minor league team (Frontier League) beginning play in 2009. Pick the logo you like best.

    http://www.cruisersb...

  • Failos2002 | December 21, 2007 at 6:45 pm |

    Mattingly! I thought I told you to get rid of those sideburns!

    Look, Mr. Burns, I don’t know what you think sideburns are, but…

  • interlockingtc | December 21, 2007 at 6:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”189674″][quote comment=”189669″] I am not, and will never be, a billboard for some corporation.[/quote]

    Not sure who you’re a fan of, but if you have a replica jersey or t-shirt, you just did.[/quote]

    If you read Paul’s post yesterday, then you get my gist.

  • Nick F | December 21, 2007 at 7:03 pm |

    As a Browns fan,

    1) I love the Orange pants.

    2) My eyes started burning at the helmet AND the altered uni pic.

    3) Browns Beat writer Tony Grossi says that there are a bunch of “altered” uni looks provided by the uni manufacturer in the Browns equipment room, he speculates that Winslow saw one he liked.

  • Tom K | December 21, 2007 at 8:32 pm |

    How bizarre is it to see the Lakers wearing yellow on the road?

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 8:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”190000″]How bizarre is it to see the Lakers wearing yellow on the road?[/quote]

    indeed…but they’re wearing heritage (aka retro, aka throwback) uniforms

    sweet warmup jacket

  • Joey | December 21, 2007 at 9:01 pm |

    Watching the New Orleans bowl, and I’m in love with FAU’s uniforms…they have a very nice, consistent use of stripes, and, despite being Nike, have a very old-school feel to them. they are very similar to old Patriots uniforms. I really like them a lot.

    Memphis, on the other hand, is sporting a Denver Bronco-style-striped jersey and no-striped solid blue pants, and looks very blah, especially compared to FAU.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 9:36 pm |

    i gotta say…i definitely prefer the laker’s retro uni’s to their current model

  • felix | December 21, 2007 at 9:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”190026″]i gotta say…i definitely prefer the laker’s retro uni’s to their current model[/quote]

    Agreed. A marked improvement.

  • LI Phil | December 21, 2007 at 10:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”190016″]Watching the New Orleans bowl, and I’m in love with FAU’s uniforms…they have a very nice, consistent use of stripes, and, despite being Nike, have a very old-school feel to them. they are very similar to old Patriots uniforms. I really like them a lot.

    Memphis, on the other hand, is sporting a Denver Bronco-style-striped jersey and no-striped solid blue pants, and looks very blah, especially compared to FAU.[/quote]

    nice

    i like the UCLA shoulder stripes

  • Dave H. | December 21, 2007 at 11:07 pm |

    That NASL jersey page just made my dream membership card a possibility – 1978 Detroit Express.

  • Matt | December 21, 2007 at 11:54 pm |

    Check out the patches on the Yankees’ 2008 jersey:

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

  • u2horn | December 22, 2007 at 12:23 am |

    My brother had an Expos pillbox hat back in the early 80s! And someone was asking yesterday if anyone really wore replicas before the 90s, and the answer is yes! I’ll have to dig up the pics at my parents’ house, but I had a Phillies powder blue replica and a home pinstripe replica, and my brother had an Expos replica along with the Expos pillbox.

  • Dustin Hall | December 22, 2007 at 1:02 am |

    [quote comment=”189638″]New logo for the Florence Freedom of the Pioneer League (baseball). Interesting tidbit from the article, the feathers that shape the eagle head also form an FF, standing for Florence Freedom.[/quote]

    Not sure why Florence did a uni and logo change…I worked as an intern for the Evansville Otters and frankly I thought they had some of the best in the Frontier League before the swtich. Nothing compared to the old style unis that River City wears though.

    Also, I like the tradition of IU basketball as much as the next guy, but all I hear out of Bloomington this year is how Eric Gordon is gonna lead them to a national title and then they go and put out shoes like this? Wow….Think they are going a little overboard, especially since they havent hung a banner in 20 years now….Sorry gotta give a little nudge to those homerish IU fans that I put up with all the time living in Indiana.

  • thid | December 22, 2007 at 3:16 pm |

    the Mattingly pic has to be 1983. going strictly from memory (and I am as big a Donnie Baseball fan as there is), Don wore his trademark mustache for the first time in 1984 and did not have it at all in 1983. if memory serves he had it the whole year in 1984.

    he also played third base for three games later in his career, in 1986 when the Yankees had a number of injuries.

    http://www.baseball-...

  • Acc (the brain) | December 23, 2007 at 3:17 am |

    [quote comment=”189821″][quote comment=”189819″][quote comment=”189750″]Personally, though the gold pants were most used before this year, I think the rams look best with blue on white (home) or white on blue (road). That’s my opinion anyway.

    Yeah I wonder about the rules regarding pants and jersey combos. Obviously the Titans proved they were very loose last year. But some teams have one color or pants (Packers, Steelers), some have two but only where one with a particulare jersey (like the Patriots), some have two that they mix around (Eagles, Jets, etc), and then there’s the few teams with three pants.[/quote]

    Good call on the Rams uniforms, I think I’ll die the day the Rams try gold-on-gold like the 49ers did two or three seasons ago.
    The Patriots did wear navy-on-navy at least once, but they lost 28-10.[/quote]

    When did the 49ers wear gold on gold unis?? I missed that.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”189821″][quote comment=”189819″][quote comment=”189750″]Personally, though the gold pants were most used before this year, I think the rams look best with blue on white (home) or white on blue (road). That’s my opinion anyway.

    Yeah I wonder about the rules regarding pants and jersey combos. Obviously the Titans proved they were very loose last year. But some teams have one color or pants (Packers, Steelers), some have two but only where one with a particulare jersey (like the Patriots), some have two that they mix around (Eagles, Jets, etc), and then there’s the few teams with three pants.[/quote]

    Good call on the Rams uniforms, I think I’ll die the day the Rams try gold-on-gold like the 49ers did two or three seasons ago.
    The Patriots did wear navy-on-navy at least once, but they lost 28-10.[/quote]

    When did the 49ers wear gold on gold unis?? I missed that.[/quote]

    Never. I’ve seen every 9ers game for 25 years and they’ve worn only white or dark red jerseys with either white or gold pants. I believe someone is mistaken.

    Now they do sell gold replicas just like the Raiders sell silver replicas. They aren’t game jerseys.

  • chris | December 23, 2007 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”189615″]That picture of Mattingly has to be before 1984 because he won the AL batting title that year.[/quote]
    that is the year I.L. celebrated 100 yrs, notice the 1884 on jersey, most I.L. teams wore a special hat that year also.

  • anne | February 13, 2008 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”189729″]The Bradley University soccer team wore a memorial to fallen teammate Danny Dahlquist on their sleeve and below their uniform numbers this year.
    http://www.bubraves....
    http://www.bubraves....
    Not sure exactly what is on it, but thought it was unique in both placement below the numbers and on the left sleeve.[/quote]

    The patch was of an Irish cross that on the left said “DQ” (Danny’s nickname) and on the right was his number 29.

    There was also two of them on the field as well. And wrist bands were sold that said “Once a brave, always a brave” on the outside. The inside said, “In memory of Danny Dahlquist, #29”