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Monday Morning Uni Watch

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What’s been the biggest change in pro football over the past 30 years? A lot of things come to mind: modern training methods, the increased size of linemen, the overall increase in athleticism and speed, the advent of video review, the increasing dominance of African-American players, the disappearance of jersey sleeves, the utter joylessness of head coaches.

But if you ask me, the biggest development — and easily the most underrated one — is the ubiquity of gloves. Almost everyone wears them now, even quarterbacks, and it’s no exaggeration to say that most of the acrobatic catches you see receivers making these days wouldn’t be possible without them. Yeah, some players in the pre-glove era wore stickum, but I saw Lester Hayes and Fred Biletnikoff in their primes, and they couldn’t make any of these one-handed catches that you routinely see guys making today. Gloves have completely redefined the passing game.

All of which came to mind during yesterday’s Cowboys/Eagles game, which featured something I’d never seen before: Philly WR Kevin Curtis took a spill along the sideline, and at first it looked like his glove had come off during the play. But as he got up, it became apparent that the glove had actually fallen apart — the upper part was still on his wrist while the lower part had been ripped right off of his hand, much to Curtis’s own confusion.

In other developments from yesterday:

• Jason Taylor’s captaincy patch was coming loose by the end of the Dolphins/Ravens game.

• As has been noted here several times in recent weeks, the “Ravens” wordmark has been missing from Willis McGahee’s black jersey in recent weeks, but it was present and accounted for on his purple jersey yesterday.

• The Redskins usually wear these socks with their burgundy pants, but they went with these — ugh.

• Now that‘s a football game. But if Derek Anderson was playing with a sewn-in pocket, why did he need an oven mitt?

(Big thanks to Chad Todd and Randy Williams from the Kevin Curtis screen grabs.)

Research Project: My ESPN colleague Mary Buckheit is working on a piece about women’s volleyball uniforms — why they’re so skimpy, why some players have issues with them, why they’re so different from the men’s uniforms, whether they’re so revealing that they’ve actually led some players to develop eating disorders, that sort of thing. Here’s a note from her:

The sport of volleyball has seen it all — unitards, mesh shorts, bun huggers, long sleeves, racerback jerseys, tall socks, no socks — what’s the deal? What is the functionality of volleyball uniforms, specifically the super-short spandex? Are women really inhibited by “cumbersome” traditional athletic shorts? You know, the ones that are perfectly suitable for soccer and basketball. Do the minis really make you perform better? Would men’s statistics spike if they dared ditch their mesh or board shorts in favor of a biker boxer brief type uni? Would they tally more digs that way? C’mon.

When you see volleyball on TV, do you stop and watch for an extra second to scope out the 6-foot college coeds in 3-inch spandex shorts? If so, any feelings on what it would be like as a father of a high school volleyball player knowing guys in the gym are doing the same thing to your 16-year-old sophomore setter?

If anyone has any thoughts on this, please feel free to contact me. Thanks!

I know at least a few of you know a lot more about volleyball than I do, so please share your knowledge with Mary. Thanks.

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Raffle Reminder: In case you missed it on Friday, I’m currently raffling off a bunch of stuff. For details, scroll down to the middle of Friday’s entry. As always, you can increase your odds of winning by joining the Uni Watch membership program.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Check out this photo of Lou Gehrig, Tris Speaker, Ty Cobb, and Babe Ruth. Odd to see that the insignia on Ruth’s jacket is “N.Y.,” but on Gehrig’s it appears to be just “NY” — no periods (with thanks to Bruce Menard). … A member of the Winthrop women’s hoops team has changed her uni number to honor her late fiancé (as forwarded by Jonathan Carone). … A reader who prefers not to give his real name has gotten some good pics showing exactly how the Rangers are hemming their jerseys. … Yikes. … Northwest Missouri State safety Aldwin Foster-Rettig (who already has a lengthy NOB) tore his jersey on Saturday, leading to a rather makeshift repair (with thanks to Chris Wheeler). … Michael Poplawski reports that German Bundesliga club Werder Bremen modified their jersey crest to look like a Christmas tree on Saturday. Here’s a closer view. … Reprinted from Sunday’s comments: Wisconsin-Whitewater’s jerseys have a “Warhawks” wordmark, but it was missing from Justin Beaver’s jersey. … The Dayton hoops team has unveiled some alternate throwbacks (with thanks to Todd Herzog). … This has resulted in this. … More NFL fines assessed here. … Doug Weight, making his Ducks debut last night, was wearing a pair of Brad May’s gloves (good catch by Alex Warner). … Remember the recent Ticker item about the missing stripes on Bill Guerin’s jersey? Here’s a follow-up (with thanks to Michael Schuerlein).

 

164 comments to Monday Morning Uni Watch

  • Shaftman | December 17, 2007 at 9:19 am |

    With Ruth, the “.”‘s could have been mustard stains.

  • Dane | December 17, 2007 at 9:20 am |

    Some seriously large NOB in this photo gallery:

    http://www.gettyimag...

  • Shaftman | December 17, 2007 at 9:22 am |

    [quote comment=”187318″]Some seriously large NOB in this photo gallery:

    http://www.gettyimag...

    This is a good shot of what he was talking about.

  • Rick | December 17, 2007 at 9:25 am |

    From the little I saw of the NFL yesterday, Green Bay, The Giants and the Redskins are all still wearing ’21’ on their helmets.

  • Dane | December 17, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    It’s weird enough seeing Michael Schumacher wearing something besides Ferrari red, but this driver’s suit is something else…

    http://www.raceofcha...

    (Note: that’s Schumi on the left)

  • LI Phil | December 17, 2007 at 9:29 am |

    posted this last night, but since the game is tonight, anyone think the vikes will pull the all purple tonight against da bears?

    anyone think this would be a thing of beauty or the beginning of the end of the world?

  • Shane | December 17, 2007 at 9:36 am |

    Nice touch, Werder Bremen.

    It’s not like FC St. Pauli selling “Santa Pauli” t-shirts with a skull and crossbones wearing a Santa hat, but it’s nice.

  • todd krevanchi | December 17, 2007 at 9:54 am |

    one thing that i hate worse than when companies take the word AMERICA, use the first three syllables and then add their cache as a suffix,
    ameriprise
    ameritrade
    et, al.
    in hopes that people say, “hey the word america is in it so it HAS to be good.”,
    is when the media takes the word WATERGATE and all of its connotations, uses the second syllable, and attaches any type of controversy as a prefix.
    stripegate,
    whitewatergate,
    et al.

    and i understand that if you are addicted to ALCOHOL you are called an alcoholic,
    but how the hell did the words workoholic, shopoholic or chocoholic come about?
    who ever heard of
    workohol
    shopohol
    chocohol?

  • Kim | December 17, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    I was watching the Eagles-Cowboys game when the Curtis glove incident happened. When I figured out that his glove had come apart on the play, I turned to my wife and said “That’s a Uni-Watch moment”.

    In the play, though Curtis went up for the ball couldn’t come down with it, fell to the turn and had his hand inadvertently stepped on as he slid across the turf, thus destroying his glove (and sending the remnant flying through the air). I think the ‘confused’ picture is Curtis checking out his hand for health reasons, as opposed to “What the hell happened to my glove?”

  • Joe | December 17, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    Keith Davis (#29) of the dallas cowboys was wearing an interestinf face mask last night. Anyone else see it?

  • Tim | December 17, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    Anyone see Todd Yoder of the Redskins get his jersey shredded after his catch last night? Unfortunately I couldn’t get a picture of it.

  • DrBear | December 17, 2007 at 10:12 am |

    Old fart rambling: back in the 60s, most of the players in the Ice Bowl (Packers-Cowboys 67 NFL championship, 13 below, yada yada) didn’t wear gloves. Jerry Kramer wrote that only the linemen did, “because we’re the only ones who don’t have to handle the ball during a game.” He actually didn’t decide to wear them until his first trip out onto the field – and immediately heard Forrest Gregg say “hell, let’s get another pair.”

  • John T | December 17, 2007 at 10:18 am |

    Blackburn Rovers Roque Santa Cruz gives new meaning to ‘Hat Trick’ after scoring his 3rd goal

    http://d.yimg.com/eu...

  • John T | December 17, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”187359″]Blackburn Rovers Roque Santa Cruz gives new meaning to ‘Hat Trick’ after scoring his 3rd goal

    http://d.yimg.com/eu...

    not to be confused with that other Santa!

  • Rick | December 17, 2007 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”187342″]Anyone see Todd Yoder of the Redskins get his jersey shredded after his catch last night? Unfortunately I couldn’t get a picture of it.[/quote]

    Yeah, I saw that too.

  • dm00n [Doug] | December 17, 2007 at 10:27 am |

    Might have missed this if it was posted yesterday, but here is a write-up on NHLers and their constant stick adjustments.

  • dm00n [Doug] | December 17, 2007 at 10:31 am |

    Weirdly, the Washington Post chalks up the ‘Skins look to “cold weather accessories.”

    Fashion Plate
    Last night’s chilly temperatures led several Redskins to break out the full complement of cold-weather accessories. Not surprisingly, cornerback Fred Smoot was the most fashion-forward, showcasing an ensemble that included a burgundy undershirt, burgundy gloves, burgundy leggings and burgundy cleats wrapped in burgundy tape.

    I get that the players were wearing tights under their gear, but the normal socks make that uniform.

  • dm00n [Doug] | December 17, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    Here is “fashion-forward” Fred Smoot.

  • Rick | December 17, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    Paul/Bryan,

    Any update on the flag decal on Dallas Clark’s helmet? Was it finally on his helmet yesterday? Has Bryan been able to get in touch with him to ask him about it??

  • sleepyfloyd | December 17, 2007 at 10:51 am |

    Anyone catch the toyota halftime report about the high school football team where the players to complete the off-season workout regimen in order to be rewarded with NOB on their jersey? Pretty interesting.

  • Blaine | December 17, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    Is the Todd Herzog who sent in the information about the Dayton basketball throwbacks the same Todd Herzog who won $1 million on Survivor last night?

  • Matt Powers | December 17, 2007 at 10:58 am |

    Sleepyfloyd, we had a post about that school about a month ago because of the claw marks on the jersey numbers.

    South Panola Mississippi:http://vmedia.rivals...

    I also love the idea NOB idea…It’s much better than pride stickers

  • Matt Powers | December 17, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    Here’s the link to South Panola”s road jersey

    http://vmedia.rivals...

  • steve | December 17, 2007 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”187371″]Here is “fashion-forward” Fred Smoot.[/quote]
    Looks like he is wearing Nike Ronaldinho shoes/boots.
    http://ecx.images-am...

  • Matt Powers | December 17, 2007 at 11:02 am |

    Here’s another link to a home orange(assuming it to be orange because they’re the tigers).

    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    Why Monochrome, why?

  • Josh | December 17, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    LT had the Darth Vader facemask yesterday against the Lions. What is this?

  • Matt Powers | December 17, 2007 at 11:07 am |

    Steve,

    Good call on Smoots “boots”…I thought I saw an external tongue on his cleats. That’s interesting because about a month ago, someone made a post explaining that Sean Taylor,may he rest in peace, was wearing Adidas Copa boots.

  • ryan c #40 | December 17, 2007 at 11:10 am |

    steelers wore the 21 decal too… jags didn’t…

    and i find myself pointing out uni-watch moments to my mom and family all the time now!!! lol. they are slowly starting to “get it”…

  • Pete | December 17, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    LOVE those Browns sideline coats.

    Why do they feature an elfon the back? Does that go back to the 50s and 60s?

  • Frankie | December 17, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”187326″]posted this last night, but since the game is tonight, anyone think the vikes will pull the all purple tonight against da bears?

    anyone think this would be a thing of beauty or the beginning of the end of the world?[/quote]

    I actually don’t mind that picture, but I’m afraid it would look much worse in actual game use.

  • Marty Met | December 17, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”187382″]Here’s another link to a home orange(assuming it to be orange because they’re the tigers).

    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    Why Monochrome, why?[/quote]

    Because it looks so good.

  • dm00n [Doug] | December 17, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    Another view of Smoot’s boots.

  • Pete | December 17, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”187326″]posted this last night, but since the game is tonight, anyone think the vikes will pull the all purple tonight against da bears?

    anyone think this would be a thing of beauty or the beginning of the end of the world?[/quote]

    I don’t personally have a problem with purple uniforms, but that Vikings uni is just plain awful. The only thing that looks good on it is the sleeve stripes that mirror the horns on the helmet. The underarm stripes and shark-tooth pants stripes have GOT to go.

  • Dan King | December 17, 2007 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment=”187382″]Here’s another link to a home orange(assuming it to be orange because they’re the tigers).

    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    Why Monochrome, why?[/quote]
    could be red like my high school: tOSU, i mean huron, tigers

  • Kerry P | December 17, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    The Saints are still wearing the “21” DECALS.

    Also, Saints RB Aaron Stecker had a rip on the back of his jersey between the numbers which had to be quickly sewn up on the sideline. He played the rest of the game with the stiched up jersey. But I can’t find a picture of it anywhere.

  • Jeff B | December 17, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    When do we get the Uniwatch roundup of all the NBA throwbacks that have been worn in the past few weeks? What was it? Heritige week or something?

  • Kerry P | December 17, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”187382″]Here’s another link to a home orange(assuming it to be orange because they’re the tigers).

    http://i.usatoday.ne...

    Why Monochrome, why?[/quote]
    Actually, I think it’s red judging from the SCHOOL’S WEBSITE.

  • Moose | December 17, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”187394″][quote comment=”187326″]posted this last night, but since the game is tonight, anyone think the vikes will pull the all purple tonight against da bears?

    anyone think this would be a thing of beauty or the beginning of the end of the world?[/quote]

    I don’t personally have a problem with purple uniforms, but that Vikings uni is just plain awful. The only thing that looks good on it is the sleeve stripes that mirror the horns on the helmet. The underarm stripes and shark-tooth pants stripes have GOT to go.[/quote]

    The all-purple combination is quite possible the worst thing to happen to the NFL. All in all, the Vikings are missing the bus on their uniforms in general.

    In fact, tonights game is a Uni-watchers nightmare because the awesomeness of the Bears unis will be ruined by the terribleness of the Vikings!

  • Bryan Redemske | December 17, 2007 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”187372″]Paul/Bryan,

    Any update on the flag decal on Dallas Clark’s helmet?

    Was it finally on his helmet yesterday?

    Has Bryan been able to get in touch with him to ask him about it??[/quote]

    Hopefully this week. It’s a unique request, and the Colts have been helpful so far. I was out yesterday — and we didn’t get the Colts game here — so I didn’t see Dallas’ helmet.

  • dm00n [Doug] | December 17, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”187340″]Keith Davis (#29) of the dallas cowboys was wearing an interestinf face mask last night. Anyone else see it?[/quote]

    Looks like he has been wearing this style mask since some point last year.

    Sorry, best pic I could find.

  • Matt Powers | December 17, 2007 at 11:51 am |

    could be red like my high school: tOSU, i mean huron, tigers

    Looks like some more college hand-me-down hijinks:

    http://www.columnche...

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

  • Jeff B | December 17, 2007 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”187390″][quote comment=”187326″]posted this last night, but since the game is tonight, anyone think the vikes will pull the all purple tonight against da bears?

    anyone think this would be a thing of beauty or the beginning of the end of the world?[/quote]

    I actually don’t mind that picture, but I’m afraid it would look much worse in actual game use.[/quote]

    Everything looks worse in the Metrodome.

  • Matt Powers | December 17, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    Keith Davis (#29) of the dallas cowboys was wearing an interestinf face mask last night. Anyone else see it?

    Looks like he has been wearing this style mask since some point last year.

    Sorry, best pic I could find.

    That is the Schutt Bulldog face mask that debuted last year. It was originally designed to fit the DNA helmet but were modified to fit the AIr Advantage by Schutt as well as the Stock Riddell helmet(not the Revolution). Lorenzo Neal wears the version fit for Riddell and his partner in the backfield wears a modified version of it for the Schutt A.A. The first person to sport this was LeVar Arrington of the Giants last year and he looked CRAZY scary with it.

    DNA:
    http://www.sportsdep...

    Air Advantage:
    http://ecx.images-am...

  • Jake Pride | December 17, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    With all the recent discussions of FNOB, I couldn’t help but notice that in yesterday’s game, the Jaguars dispensed with initials when it came to:

    Greg Jones
    Matt Jones
    Maurice Jones-Drew

    None of them have initials or other names on their nameplate, even though all 3 of them are often on the field together (Greg is FB, Matt WR, and Maurice RB). Makes sense to me; they all have different numbers to tell them apart.

    Can’t find photos from that Steeler game, but here is photographic proof that they did use initials in the past:

    Matt Jones

    Matt Jones jersey

    Greg Jones jersey

  • dm00n [Doug] | December 17, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    LeRon Landry on the ‘Skins also wore the same color shoes as Smoot, but opted for white leggings. You can also see that R.W. McQuarters of the Giants has red laces.

  • al | December 17, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    Vikes old unis were great, and they still have one of the best logos in the nfl.

  • Matt Powers | December 17, 2007 at 11:59 am |

    That was up until this happened to my second favorite college player ever:

    http://www.nytimes.c...

    http://content.answe...

  • Matt Powers | December 17, 2007 at 12:05 pm |

    Michael Stonebreaker, the player I aspired to be be during my formative years:

    http://www.ncsasport...

    He also had the greatest name of any linebacker ever!

  • Brick | December 17, 2007 at 12:08 pm |

    More than one college tried to copy the Astros style jersey depicted in the Tulane eBay listing. Here’s B.J. Surhoff playing for UNC.

  • Hank | December 17, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    The Babe was sporting the Yankees’ altnerate warm-up jacket in the photo.

  • Stuby | December 17, 2007 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”187424″]Michael Stonebreaker, the player I aspired to be be during my formative years:

    http://www.ncsasport...

    He also had the greatest name of any linebacker ever![/quote]
    I don’t know, ‘Dick Butkus’ is a pretty damn good linebacker name also.

  • Chaz | December 17, 2007 at 12:24 pm |

    De La Salle HS vs Corona Centennial Saturday night CA state high school championship. Both teams are in the top 25 in the country. De La Salle has a different decal for each side of the helmet. The forward facing Spartan head is a mirror image, but underneath it spells out De La Salle, meaning that the decals have to be completely different (like the Chiefs, Ravens, Northern Illinois, etc). Centennial had helmets with red paint around the edges and black on top, the reverse of the helmets San Diego State was wearing a couple of years ago.

  • Matt Powers | December 17, 2007 at 12:24 pm |

    The question is: Did the Babe have his jersey on underneath!

    If not, then Yankee Bob can’t only pick on Terry Francona because a Yankee had set the precedent!

  • Mets Fan AZ | December 17, 2007 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”187421″]Vikes old unis were great, and they still have one of the best logos in the nfl.[/quote]
    I don’t mind the old unis either. Much better than the new ones, did the old ones have purple pants? I don’t remember any and I certainly don’t remember a monochrome look in the old days either.

  • Jordan | December 17, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”187324″]It’s weird enough seeing Michael Schumacher wearing something besides Ferrari red, but this driver’s suit is something else…

    http://www.raceofcha...

    (Note: that’s Schumi on the left)[/quote]

    Interesting Cross of St. Andrew patch on Schumi’s right sleeve — tribute to the late Colin McCrae

  • Chance | December 17, 2007 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”187389″]LOVE those Browns sideline coats.

    Why do they feature an elfon the back? Does that go back to the 50s and 60s?[/quote]

    You’re right – he does go back to the early days of the franchise in the 1940s.

    Reportedly, Modell didn’t like it, so he elimiated the Brownie in the 1960s, but the new owners have been using it as an alternate logo since 2004 or so.

    I’m glad to see him given more exposure. Beautiful. Simply beautiful.

  • S Bennett | December 17, 2007 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”187393″]Another view of Smoot’s boots.[/quote]

    And an even better one

    SB

  • Chance | December 17, 2007 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”187441″][quote comment=”187421″]Vikes old unis were great, and they still have one of the best logos in the nfl.[/quote]
    I don’t mind the old unis either. Much better than the new ones, did the old ones have purple pants? I don’t remember any and I certainly don’t remember a monochrome look in the old days either.[/quote]

    There was one famous monochrome, necessitated because they wanted to wear their standard road uniform of white jerseys and purple pants at home but forgot to tell the visiting Lions, who didn’t bring their home blues. So the Vikes were forced to wear their home jerseys, resulting in a purple nightmare.

    Shows how times have changed – back then, the Vikings were embarrassed by the look. Now they’ll willingly choose it?

  • Randy Williams | December 17, 2007 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”187337″]one thing that i hate worse than when companies take the word AMERICA, use the first three syllables and then add their cache as a suffix,
    ameriprise
    ameritrade
    et, al.
    in hopes that people say, “hey the word america is in it so it HAS to be good.”,
    is when the media takes the word WATERGATE and all of its connotations, uses the second syllable, and attaches any type of controversy as a prefix.
    stripegate,
    whitewatergate,
    et al.

    and i understand that if you are addicted to ALCOHOL you are called an alcoholic,
    but how the hell did the words workoholic, shopoholic or chocoholic come about?
    who ever heard of
    workohol
    shopohol
    chocohol?[/quote]
    Who let Seinfeld in here?!? “They’re called GrapeNuts…but there’s no grapes or nuts. What’s the deal?”

  • Ian K | December 17, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”187445″][quote comment=”187389″]LOVE those Browns sideline coats.

    Why do they feature an elfon the back? Does that go back to the 50s and 60s?[/quote]

    You’re right – he does go back to the early days of the franchise in the 1940s.

    Reportedly, Modell didn’t like it, so he elimiated the Brownie in the 1960s, but the new owners have been using it as an alternate logo since 2004 or so.

    I’m glad to see him given more exposure. Beautiful. Simply beautiful.[/quote]

    “Beautiful” is not the word I would use to describe it. Campy, maybe. For the most part, I’m in agreeance with Uni Watch likes & dislikes. However, I am not in favor of the use of overly-cartoony mascots and logos.
    Examples:
    Tigers’ swinging kitten
    Mr. Redlegs
    and Cleveland Browns’ Brownie elf logo

    Just my thoughts on cartoony logos. Feel free to disagree or add others to the list…

  • Slam | December 17, 2007 at 12:49 pm |

    The Tigers’ swinging kitten must be playing slo-pitch. He is looking up at the incoming ball.

  • patrick | December 17, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    Not sure if any of the soccer fans saw any of the pictures from Capello’s introduction as new Manager of Englands National Team but, the tags were still on the jersey. Not onyl were they still on the jersey but, they were hanging out on the fron of the jersey, for the world to see. The only place I’ve seen this picture was on a blog, Soccer by Ives. I hope I don’t mess the link up

    Here it is just in case
    http://njmg.typepad....

  • DenverGregg | December 17, 2007 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”187337″]one thing that i hate worse than when companies take the word AMERICA, use the first three syllables and then add their cache as a suffix,
    ameriprise
    ameritrade
    et, al.
    in hopes that people say, “hey the word america is in it so it HAS to be good.”,
    is when the media takes the word WATERGATE and all of its connotations, uses the second syllable, and attaches any type of controversy as a prefix.
    stripegate,
    whitewatergate,
    et al.

    and i understand that if you are addicted to ALCOHOL you are called an alcoholic,
    but how the hell did the words workoholic, shopoholic or chocoholic come about?
    who ever heard of
    workohol
    shopohol
    chocohol?[/quote]
    Well, the first one is to cater to Ameriholics – those who just can’t get enough of the Stars & Stripes.

    The second is a sad holdover of the 70s: stoned people heard the term “Golden Gate”, juxtaposed it with Watergate and thought that if they could only coin a new “-gate”, they’d get rich. As the numbers of the acid-addled dwindle, so will this neoplastic neologism.

    Of course “-oholic” comes from the Prohibitionists who lay in wait for their next chance – after they’ve pried my liquor from my dead hands – who try at every turn to denigrate spiritous beverages.

  • Andrew | December 17, 2007 at 1:04 pm |

    Mr. Redlegs is awesome. I’m torn on some of the others (Swinging Kitty, Swinging Beer-Barrel Man, Swinging Friar) but Mr. Redlegs is fine by me.

    The only problem I have with him is that in about 10-15 games at GAB this summer, I didn’t see him win the stupid Skyline race once, despite picking him every time.

    Stupid Mr. Redlegs.

  • Matt Powers | December 17, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    What about this guy?
    http://moonlightgrah...

  • Andrew | December 17, 2007 at 1:12 pm |

    On -gate, I don’t know. It’s running strong. I wonder if it hasn’t entered our consciousness as a code word for scandal.
    Oh, and what on earth does de Stijl and neologisms have in common?

    (that’s a joke, by the way, cracking wise a little bit on your phrase-turning)

  • LI Phil | December 17, 2007 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”187472″]What about this guy?
    http://moonlightgrah...

    mr. met rawks but not this guy

  • Jon | December 17, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    The 13th annual Petro-Canada Teddy Bear Toss was a huge success. A World Record 26,919 bears were tossed on December 2nd when the Calgary Hitmen beat Prince George 6-2.

    But check out the christmas logos and lettering
    Front, Back, Shoulder

    Video

  • George | December 17, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    Here’s to hoping that the Vikings don’t make the all-purple look a trend on nationally-televised games. Their game next week with Washington is set to be on Sunday night.

  • Mickel | December 17, 2007 at 1:19 pm |

    Seahawks still have the 21

  • Jeff B | December 17, 2007 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”187468″]Mr. Redlegs is awesome. I’m torn on some of the others (Swinging Kitty, Swinging Beer-Barrel Man, Swinging Friar) but Mr. Redlegs is fine by me.[/quote]

    I love all the cartoony characters. Especially the old ones , and ones that are blatently racist by today’s standards. I draw the line when they show up as costumed characters at the park. In the minors? Sure, that’s family oriented entertainment surrounding MLB scouting. In the pros? Get them out of my way.

    In short: OKNot OK.

  • Jeff B | December 17, 2007 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”187484″][quote comment=”187468″]Mr. Redlegs is awesome. I’m torn on some of the others (Swinging Kitty, Swinging Beer-Barrel Man, Swinging Friar) but Mr. Redlegs is fine by me.[/quote]

    I love all the cartoony characters. Especially the old ones , and ones that are blatently racist by today’s standards. I draw the line when they show up as costumed characters at the park. In the minors? Sure, that’s family oriented entertainment surrounding MLB scouting. In the pros? Get them out of my way.

    In short: OKNot OK.[/quote]

    Damn sorry. Most of those links were from logo shak. a good website, but they don’t let you link apparently.

  • ryan c #40 | December 17, 2007 at 1:36 pm |

    i LOVE cartoony logos! to me, they are SO classic!!!

    on a side note: i HATE, HATE, HATE, the cleveland browns (pittsburgher)… but those sideline coats are pretty cool (seriously). when they’re not playing football, they can go pick up the trash on the side of the freeway (you know, like their playbook, teammates, anything else that says cleveland, etc.)… lol. besides, i’m sure a lot of the browns (or their boyfriends (winslow)) have the matching jump-suits from various nights spent in jail, and what a better what to match?!?!

    ha-ha… ok, ok, i won’t trash talk! besides, if the ol’ black-n-gold don’t watch out, the brownies will be taking their place in the playoffs!

  • LockBull | December 17, 2007 at 1:40 pm |

    quote comment=”187484″][quote comment=”187468″]Mr. Redlegs is awesome. I’m torn on some of the others (Swinging Kitty, Swinging Beer-Barrel Man, Swinging Friar) but Mr. Redlegs is fine by me.[/quote]

    I love all the cartoony characters. Especially the old ones , and ones that are blatently racist by today’s standards. I draw the line when they show up as costumed characters at the park. In the minors? Sure, that’s family oriented entertainment surrounding MLB scouting. In the pros? Get them out of my way.

    In short: OKNot OK.[/quote]
    I was watching a U. of Minnesota basketball game on TV recently and am so glad they haven’t tried to update Goldy Gopher to make him more fierce looking. Remember some small kids love these guys, and they become big kids and big fans…

  • Jerico | December 17, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”187454″][quote comment=”187445″][quote comment=”187389″]LOVE those Browns sideline coats.

    Why do they feature an elfon the back? Does that go back to the 50s and 60s?[/quote]

    You’re right – he does go back to the early days of the franchise in the 1940s.

    Reportedly, Modell didn’t like it, so he elimiated the Brownie in the 1960s, but the new owners have been using it as an alternate logo since 2004 or so.

    I’m glad to see him given more exposure. Beautiful. Simply beautiful.[/quote]

    “Beautiful” is not the word I would use to describe it. Campy, maybe. For the most part, I’m in agreeance with Uni Watch likes & dislikes. However, I am not in favor of the use of overly-cartoony mascots and logos.
    Examples:
    Tigers’ swinging kitten
    Mr. Redlegs
    and Cleveland Browns’ Brownie elf logo

    Just my thoughts on cartoony logos. Feel free to disagree or add others to the list…[/quote]
    I actually do like the Brownie the Elf logo, though I probably like the current secondary logo of the orange-and-brown bulldog (“Dawg Pound”–get it?). Here’s a blog entry from 2004 discussing both.

    The old Red Sox “swinging sock” logo (circa 1950s, though you occasionally see it on ESPN) is campy, to be sure, but I really like it.

  • Who cares | December 17, 2007 at 1:49 pm |

    New York Times Hockey Blog has a video up of a European hockey team that put Santa hats on top of the numbers on the backs of their uniforms

    http://slapshot.blog...

  • Harv Antle | December 17, 2007 at 1:52 pm |

    Paul will like this. From the weekend’s D-2 cahmpionship game, Northwest Missouri State wore Nike tops and Russell pants.

  • dgc | December 17, 2007 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”187454″]
    “Beautiful” is not the word I would use to describe it. Campy, maybe. For the most part, I’m in agreeance with Uni Watch likes & dislikes. However, I am not in favor of the use of overly-cartoony mascots and logos.
    Examples:
    Tigers’ swinging kitten
    Mr. Redlegs
    and Cleveland Browns’ Brownie elf logo

    Just my thoughts on cartoony logos. Feel free to disagree or add others to the list…[/quote]

    I think the O’s should go back to the swinging Bird immediately.

  • CV | December 17, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”187421″]Vikes old unis were great, and they still have one of the best logos in the nfl.[/quote]

    The old Viking purples were awesome, and the helmets are top 3 in the NFL. The old whites suck just like the current white. In fact, the current ones may be better than the UCLA old ones. I really don’t mind the new jerseys much at all, it’s the new pants that make the uni look terrible.

    Personally, I think the best thing would be to go back to the orignal look from the early 60’s, with the purple pants included.

    http://www.weirdwolf...

  • Andrew | December 17, 2007 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”187493″]i LOVE cartoony logos! to me, they are SO classic!!!

    on a side note: i HATE, HATE, HATE, the cleveland browns (pittsburgher)… but those sideline coats are pretty cool (seriously). when they’re not playing football, they can go pick up the trash on the side of the freeway (you know, like their playbook, teammates, anything else that says cleveland, etc.)… lol. besides, i’m sure a lot of the browns (or their boyfriends (winslow)) have the matching jump-suits from various nights spent in jail, and what a better what to match?!?!

    ha-ha… ok, ok, i won’t trash talk! besides, if the ol’ black-n-gold don’t watch out, the brownies will be taking their place in the playoffs![/quote]

    Mind you, who’s the Steelers’ mascot these days? Steely McBeam?

  • Alex | December 17, 2007 at 2:12 pm |

    This weekend I seemd to notice the thickness of helmet stripes in the NFL more than I ever have. Have they always been this thick or is a cold weather thing?

  • Jeff B | December 17, 2007 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”187509″]This weekend I seemd to notice the thickness of helmet stripes in the NFL more than I ever have. Have they always been this thick or is a cold weather thing?[/quote]

    This site is all about visual evidence. Which games were you watching? That way we can compare the stripes to other times.
    My guess it you just noticed it, just like I started noticing nose bumpers after the article about that. BTW what would be your theory behind thicker stripes for cold weather?

  • LI Phil | December 17, 2007 at 2:25 pm |
  • Robert | December 17, 2007 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”187459″]The Tigers’ swinging kitten must be playing slo-pitch. He is looking up at the incoming ball.[/quote]

    He was hitting against Dave LaRoche.

  • ryan c #40 | December 17, 2007 at 2:39 pm |

    This site is all about visual evidence. Which games were you watching? That way we can compare the stripes to other times.
    My guess it you just noticed it, just like I started noticing nose bumpers after the article about that. BTW what would be your theory behind thicker stripes for cold weather?

    …besides, don’t things usually shrink in cold weather???

  • Jeff B | December 17, 2007 at 2:40 pm |

    Paul, What would be you’re reaction to if we got one or two readers to work together to put together an entry where they detailed some of the uniform history, quirks, development, trends etc of some of the sports you know less about? Say one about soccer, one about lacrosse, maybe more. It seems there are some readers who know substantially more about it than most, and may be willing to give it a shot.

  • ryan c #40 | December 17, 2007 at 2:40 pm |

    i LOVE cartoony logos! to me, they are SO classic!!!

    on a side note: i HATE, HATE, HATE, the cleveland browns (pittsburgher)… but those sideline coats are pretty cool (seriously). when they’re not playing football, they can go pick up the trash on the side of the freeway (you know, like their playbook, teammates, anything else that says cleveland, etc.)… lol. besides, i’m sure a lot of the browns (or their boyfriends (winslow)) have the matching jump-suits from various nights spent in jail, and what a better what to match?!?!

    ha-ha… ok, ok, i won’t trash talk! besides, if the ol’ black-n-gold don’t watch out, the brownies will be taking their place in the playoffs!

    Mind you, who’s the Steelers’ mascot these days? Steely McBeam

    …ouch!

  • Randy Williams | December 17, 2007 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”187524″]This site is all about visual evidence. Which games were you watching? That way we can compare the stripes to other times.
    My guess it you just noticed it, just like I started noticing nose bumpers after the article about that. BTW what would be your theory behind thicker stripes for cold weather?

    …besides, don’t things usually shrink in cold weather???[/quote]
    Seinfeld is STILL in here!

  • Dane | December 17, 2007 at 2:45 pm |

    This item was part of Money.com’s 2007 list of the 101 Dumbest Moments in Business. Did we cover this earlier this year?

    Nike recalls 235,000 football helmets because the Chinese-made chin cup has a defective strap and has caused at least two concussions and a broken nose.

    http://money.cnn.com...

  • steve | December 17, 2007 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”187530″][quote comment=”187524″]This site is all about visual evidence. Which games were you watching? That way we can compare the stripes to other times.
    My guess it you just noticed it, just like I started noticing nose bumpers after the article about that. BTW what would be your theory behind thicker stripes for cold weather?

    …besides, don’t things usually shrink in cold weather???[/quote]
    Seinfeld is STILL in here![/quote]
    I was in the POOL!

  • Mark | December 17, 2007 at 2:47 pm |

    I was watching a U. of Minnesota basketball game on TV recently and am so glad they haven’t tried to update Goldy Gopher to make him more fierce looking. Remember some small kids love these guys, and they become big kids and big fans…

    When this “new” Goldy was introduced (1985) he actually was more aggressive looking. His eyebrows were furrowed and he had more of a scowl. See here http://www1.umn.edu/... The U received feedback that he was too mean for kids so they softened him up a bit. More of a grinning fool look I would say. Much preferred the scowl but then again how angry can a gopher really be? Wait. Caddyshack anyone?

    The Gopher mascot of the 60s and 70s (same link) is what I grew up with and he was depicted in every activity imaginable. The 1979 version shown on the same link is one I have never seen -and I was attending the U then – so I suspect it never was used (especially if they introduced the new version 6 years later).

    Vikes in all purple – as much as I dislike the new look I agree on the new pants being the worst part. Somehow the all purple doesn’t look all bad though. I will be there tonight and will file an in-person report on whether they look better in person. If they even go through with it that is…

  • CV | December 17, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”187540″]
    Vikes in all purple – as much as I dislike the new look I agree on the new pants being the worst part. Somehow the all purple doesn’t look all bad though. I will be there tonight and will file an in-person report on whether they look better in person. If they even go through with it that is…[/quote]

    I actually like that all-purple look better than the all-white on the road look, though neither are good.

    Have fun at the game, wish I could go.

  • Jeff B | December 17, 2007 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”187547″][quote comment=”187540″]
    Vikes in all purple – as much as I dislike the new look I agree on the new pants being the worst part. Somehow the all purple doesn’t look all bad though. I will be there tonight and will file an in-person report on whether they look better in person. If they even go through with it that is…[/quote]

    I actually like that all-purple look better than the all-white on the road look, though neither are good.

    Have fun at the game, wish I could go.[/quote]

    I’m at work and can’t check. How much are the Vikes favored by?

  • JoeS | December 17, 2007 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”187540″]I was watching a U. of Minnesota basketball game on TV recently and am so glad they haven’t tried to update Goldy Gopher to make him more fierce looking. Remember some small kids love these guys, and they become big kids and big fans…

    When this “new” Goldy was introduced (1985) he actually was more aggressive looking. His eyebrows were furrowed and he had more of a scowl. See here http://www1.umn.edu/... The U received feedback that he was too mean for kids so they softened him up a bit. More of a grinning fool look I would say. Much preferred the scowl but then again how angry can a gopher really be? Wait. Caddyshack anyone?

    The Gopher mascot of the 60s and 70s (same link) is what I grew up with and he was depicted in every activity imaginable. The 1979 version shown on the same link is one I have never seen -and I was attending the U then – so I suspect it never was used (especially if they introduced the new version 6 years later).

    Vikes in all purple – as much as I dislike the new look I agree on the new pants being the worst part. Somehow the all purple doesn’t look all bad though. I will be there tonight and will file an in-person report on whether they look better in person. If they even go through with it that is…[/quote]
    In 1986 when they “softened” goldy, wouldn’t it have been sufficient to just make him not scowl? Did they really have to remove his toe-claws and muscles? That just seems cruel!

  • JoeS | December 17, 2007 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”187507″]
    Mind you, who’s the Steelers’ mascot these days? Steely McBeam?[/quote]
    Holy crap! I thought you were making that up until someone posted this! I think a steel worker mascot makes sense, but what a ridiculous name!

  • Erich | December 17, 2007 at 3:08 pm |

    I love cartoony logos as well… These are 2 of my favorite logos ever, especially the Cardinal…

  • Erich | December 17, 2007 at 3:08 pm |
  • CV | December 17, 2007 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”187553″][quote comment=”187547″][quote comment=”187540″]
    Vikes in all purple – as much as I dislike the new look I agree on the new pants being the worst part. Somehow the all purple doesn’t look all bad though. I will be there tonight and will file an in-person report on whether they look better in person. If they even go through with it that is…[/quote]

    I actually like that all-purple look better than the all-white on the road look, though neither are good.

    Have fun at the game, wish I could go.[/quote]

    I’m at work and can’t check. How much are the Vikes favored by?[/quote]

    10 1/2

  • Al | December 17, 2007 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”187426″]More than one college tried to copy the Astros style jersey depicted in the Tulane eBay listing. Here’s B.J. Surhoff playing for UNC.[/quote]

    I didn’t know UNC used the blue UltraStripe template. I know that Seton Hall did.

    The odd thing about this Tulane jersey is that it didn’t seem to fit the usual 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-2-1 striping pattern you’d find on an old Majestic/Sand Knit jersey of that time. I’d surely like to see one of those up close (the eBay photo leaves a little to be desired).

  • Duckstyle | December 17, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”187547″][quote comment=”187540″]
    Vikes in all purple – as much as I dislike the new look I agree on the new pants being the worst part. Somehow the all purple doesn’t look all bad though. I will be there tonight and will file an in-person report on whether they look better in person. If they even go through with it that is…[/quote]

    I actually like that all-purple look better than the all-white on the road look, though neither are good.

    Have fun at the game, wish I could go.[/quote]

    I think I like the exact opposite, and by like, I mean I don’t mind. I hate the dark monochrome look on anyone but maybe the Jets. But with certain teams, color etc, the all white look is ok. I think the Vikings old away style was pretty decent. And considering the ridiculous cartoon outfits they wear now I think you have to long for those old ones. I never liked their old sleeve stripes on the purple jerseys. I hate the one fat stripe at the bottom of the sleeve: old Vikings, Chiefs, Dolphins etc. Looks so bush.

  • Marty Met | December 17, 2007 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”187486″][quote comment=”187484″][quote comment=”187468″]Mr. Redlegs is awesome. I’m torn on some of the others (Swinging Kitty, Swinging Beer-Barrel Man, Swinging Friar) but Mr. Redlegs is fine by me.[/quote]

    I love all the cartoony characters. Especially the old ones , and ones that are blatently racist by today’s standards. I draw the line when they show up as costumed characters at the park. In the minors? Sure, that’s family oriented entertainment surrounding MLB scouting. In the pros? Get them out of my way.

    In short: OKNot OK.[/quote]

    Damn sorry. Most of those links were from logo shak. a good website, but they don’t let you link apparently.[/quote]

    How can you not like Mr. Met?

  • CV | December 17, 2007 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”187564″][quote comment=”187547″][quote comment=”187540″]
    Vikes in all purple – as much as I dislike the new look I agree on the new pants being the worst part. Somehow the all purple doesn’t look all bad though. I will be there tonight and will file an in-person report on whether they look better in person. If they even go through with it that is…[/quote]

    I actually like that all-purple look better than the all-white on the road look, though neither are good.

    Have fun at the game, wish I could go.[/quote]

    I think I like the exact opposite, and by like, I mean I don’t mind. I hate the dark monochrome look on anyone but maybe the Jets. But with certain teams, color etc, the all white look is ok. I think the Vikings old away style was pretty decent. And considering the ridiculous cartoon outfits they wear now I think you have to long for those old ones. I never liked their old sleeve stripes on the purple jerseys. I hate the one fat stripe at the bottom of the sleeve: old Vikings, Chiefs, Dolphins etc. Looks so bush.[/quote]

    The old purples I really like are those they wore as throwbacks this year against the Pack, with the sleve stripes similar to the Steelers. The UCLA stripe road unis were bad, worse than the current ones.

  • Alex | December 17, 2007 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”187514″][quote comment=”187509″]This weekend I seemd to notice the thickness of helmet stripes in the NFL more than I ever have. Have they always been this thick or is a cold weather thing?[/quote]

    This site is all about visual evidence. Which games were you watching? That way we can compare the stripes to other times.
    My guess it you just noticed it, just like I started noticing nose bumpers after the article about that. BTW what would be your theory behind thicker stripes for cold weather?[/quote]

    I can’t get pictures to link properly on here for the life of me.

    I was trying to link to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Theres some great photos on ESPN, but again I tried to link and failed.

    I also tried to make a little arrow pointing to my cold weather comment and indicating that it was sarcasm. Don’t know why that didn’t post.

  • Jeff B | December 17, 2007 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”187565″][quote comment=”187486″][quote comment=”187484″][quote comment=”187468″]Mr. Redlegs is awesome. I’m torn on some of the others (Swinging Kitty, Swinging Beer-Barrel Man, Swinging Friar) but Mr. Redlegs is fine by me.[/quote]

    I love all the cartoony characters. Especially the old ones , and ones that are blatently racist by today’s standards. I draw the line when they show up as costumed characters at the park. In the minors? Sure, that’s family oriented entertainment surrounding MLB scouting. In the pros? Get them out of my way.

    In short: OKNot OK.[/quote]

    Damn sorry. Most of those links were from logo shak. a good website, but they don’t let you link apparently.[/quote]

    How can you not like Mr. Met?[/quote]

    I like Mr. Met to be used in pictures, ads, logos, patches, stuff like that. I don’t like the sweaty man dancing around with a giant baseball head interrupting my game.

  • LI Phil | December 17, 2007 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”187569″]How can you not like Mr. Met?[/quote]

    I like Mr. Met to be used in pictures, ads, logos, patches, stuff like that. I don’t like the sweaty man dancing around with a giant baseball head interrupting my game.[/quote]

    mr. met’s head is the only earthbound orb with its own gravitational pull

    in ’64, mr. met earned rookie-of-the-year honors as MLBs first modern live-action mascot

  • Duckstyle | December 17, 2007 at 4:16 pm |

    The old purples I really like are those they wore as throwbacks this year against the Pack, with the sleve stripes similar to the Steelers. The UCLA stripe road unis were bad, worse than the current ones.[/quote]

    I agree the throwback purple were beautiful compared to the new or old home unis. But seriosuly, I’m not sure there’s an uglier uni in the league than either set the Vikings have. I’ve always been partial to the 3-stripe shoulder strips like UCLA and LSU etc.

  • Justin | December 17, 2007 at 4:32 pm |

    Two UNC players wore the same uniform number & NOB last night against Rutgers…

    From the ACC Now blog …

  • Marty Met | December 17, 2007 at 4:47 pm |

    I wonder if Chris Simon hates the RBK Edge sweaters, because hopefully he’ll never wear an NHL sweater again

  • ToasterPoodle | December 17, 2007 at 4:54 pm |

    quote the ticker The Dayton hoops team has unveiled some alternate throwbacks (with thanks to Todd Herzog).

    Maybe Todd or someone else can help with this. I grew up in Dayton and remembered the era of the uni on the right. It was accompanied by a shooter shirt that looked a lot like the BJ Surhoff baseball uni shown here. I scoured the internet and cannot find a picture of it. I know that UD doesn’t carry the fan base of say Carolina or Duke, but does anyone else remember this, or have a picture.

  • ptb | December 17, 2007 at 4:55 pm |

    http://www.ravensnes...

    anybody else ever heard of the Continental Football League? There’s some rough information on Wikipedia but I would really like to lay eyes and/or hands on some Chicago Owls paraphernalia… the logos on that page are pretty blah. i’ve never ever heard of this league…

  • Scott W | December 17, 2007 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”187486″][quote comment=”187484″][quote comment=”187468″]Mr. Redlegs is awesome. I’m torn on some of the others (Swinging Kitty, Swinging Beer-Barrel Man, Swinging Friar) but Mr. Redlegs is fine by me.[/quote]

    I love all the cartoony characters. Especially the old ones , and ones that are blatently racist by today’s standards. I draw the line when they show up as costumed characters at the park. In the minors? Sure, that’s family oriented entertainment surrounding MLB scouting. In the pros? Get them out of my way.

    In short: OKNot OK.[/quote]

    Damn sorry. Most of those links were from logo shak. a good website, but they don’t let you link apparently.[/quote]

    All you’ve got to do is highlight the url in the window, and re-send it with enter. this has come up before. pretty sure most people have figured it out anyway, because this comment has been replied to a few times with, “how can you not like mr. met?”

  • Steve Rogers | December 17, 2007 at 5:25 pm |

    I think the “.” on the Ruth jacket might be imperfections in the photo rather than an actual “.” in NY.

    Well, put it this way, have you EVER seen New York’s state abbreveated as N.Y.? No, like CA for California, even though it is two words it has never had periods after the N and the Y.

  • Steve Rogers | December 17, 2007 at 5:26 pm |

    I stand corrected.

  • cowboy7130 | December 17, 2007 at 5:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”187534″]This item was part of Money.com’s 2007 list of the 101 Dumbest Moments in Business. Did we cover this earlier this year?

    Nike recalls 235,000 football helmets because the Chinese-made chin cup has a defective strap and has caused at least two concussions and a broken nose.

    http://money.cnn.com...

    Nike doesn’t make football helmets.

  • Steve Rogers | December 17, 2007 at 5:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”187606″]I stand corrected.

    [/quote]

    Link is not coming through here

    http://www.thedeadba...

  • LI Phil | December 17, 2007 at 5:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”187605″]I think the “.” on the Ruth jacket might be imperfections in the photo rather than an actual “.” in NY.

    Well, put it this way, have you EVER seen New York’s state abbreveated as N.Y.? No, like CA for California, even though it is two words it has never had periods after the N and the Y.[/quote]

    so true…except…one merely has to waste countless hours (actually mere seconds) at work to discover THIS PHOTO of ruth, gehrig, cobb & speaker, standing this time

    i’d say those are periods (or at least ONE period between the “N” and “Y”)

  • LI Phil | December 17, 2007 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”187610″][quote comment=”187606″]I stand corrected.

    Link is not coming through here

    http://www.thedeadba...

    wow…i didn’t see your pic when i posted…actually i think your pic is a little clearer

  • Saru | December 17, 2007 at 5:40 pm |

    The best cartoony character was Fighty of the Nippon Ham Fighters.

  • Seth H | December 17, 2007 at 5:40 pm |

    Well, put it this way, have you EVER seen New York’s state abbreveated as N.Y.? No, like CA for California, even though it is two words it has never had periods after the N and the Y.

    Those of us who are old enough (40+) remember when the only correct way to abbreviate New York was “N.Y.” California was “Calif.” back then. (And “Tex.”, “Ark.”, “Fla.”, “Miss.”, etc.)

    Sometime (probably in the seventies), with the advent of machine readers to sort the mail, the postal service started making corporations use official two letter abbreviations (e.g., NY and CA) for all states.

  • Perry | December 17, 2007 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”187389″]LOVE those Browns sideline coats.

    Why do they feature an elfon the back? Does that go back to the 50s and 60s?[/quote]

    It’s a brownie, get it? And yes.

  • JoeS | December 17, 2007 at 5:57 pm |

    The Madden 08 simulation that ESPN does of all the NFL games shows the Vikings in all purple. Does EA Sports know something we don’t?

  • odessa steps | December 17, 2007 at 6:14 pm |

    how about a return of the Colonial kids that used to be on the Phillies’ logo?

    The two Twins shaking hands?

    SWINGING FRIAR~!

  • LI Phil | December 17, 2007 at 6:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”187624″]The Madden 08 simulation that ESPN does of all the NFL games shows the Vikings in all purple. Does EA Sports know something we don’t?[/quote]

    Running back Adrian Peterson scored on a 6-yard touchdown run on the opening drive, and that set the tone

    heh

  • Frankie | December 17, 2007 at 6:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”187624″]The Madden 08 simulation that ESPN does of all the NFL games shows the Vikings in all purple. Does EA Sports know something we don’t?[/quote]

    Maybe, but maybe not. Just look at this preview and you’ll see that these screen shots are nothing to go off of. Miami hasn’t worn those pants and socks since Ricky Wiliiams retired before that one season. plus, they always wear all white at home during the day, and no team would ever wear all black during the day in Florida, regardless of whether or not black actually does attract more sun or not (which I know has been discussed here before).

  • Stevo | December 17, 2007 at 6:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”187497″]
    I was watching a U. of Minnesota basketball game on TV recently and am so glad they haven’t tried to update Goldy Gopher to make him more fierce looking. Remember some small kids love these guys, and they become big kids and big fans…[/quote]

    I was once part of costumed Goldie’s hijinks at a wrestling meet at the Target Center. I was snapping photos matside when s/he came up behind me and started doing the whole “monkey around with the unsuspecting working guy” thing.

  • j | December 17, 2007 at 7:04 pm |

    golden gophers have a gay fukin mascot

  • LI Phil | December 17, 2007 at 7:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”187644″]I was snapping photos matside when s/he came up behind me and started doing the whole “monkey around with the unsuspecting working guy” thing.[/quote]

    *thoughts going through stevo’s head*:

    License to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations. Man, free to kill gophers at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this case my enemy is a varmint. And a varmint will never quit – ever. They’re like the Viet Cong – Varmint Cong. So you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower. And that’s all she wrote

  • Eliot | December 17, 2007 at 7:17 pm |

    speaking of cartoony mascots, i’ve always loved this version of bevo the longhorn.

  • Stevo | December 17, 2007 at 7:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”187647″][quote comment=”187644″]I was snapping photos matside when s/he came up behind me and started doing the whole “monkey around with the unsuspecting working guy” thing.[/quote]

    *thoughts going through stevo’s head*:

    License to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations. Man, free to kill gophers at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this case my enemy is a varmint. And a varmint will never quit – ever. They’re like the Viet Cong – Varmint Cong. So you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower. And that’s all she wrote[/quote]

    I thought about tackling that oversized rat, but I didn’t want to drop my camera and break it. I also figured there was an outside chance that it was a cute girl under the hood using her position as an excuse to flirt with me.

  • jere | December 17, 2007 at 7:41 pm |

    For people who followed the Yastrzemski upside-down 8 saga, one final chapter:

    Boston “street views” is now up at G-Maps, and the shot of the numbers outside Fenway happens to be right from that window of time when the 8 was down, to be replaced right side up. (Go down the next street, though, and you can see the 8, as that street was obviously shot at a different time.)n

  • Billy D | December 17, 2007 at 8:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”187624″]The Madden 08 simulation that ESPN does of all the NFL games shows the Vikings in all purple. Does EA Sports know something we don’t?[/quote]

    I don’t know if they KNEW, but the KFAN (the vikings radio flagship) announcers just were talking about the Vikings going with purple-on-purple

  • Lobster | December 17, 2007 at 8:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”187659″][quote comment=”187624″]The Madden 08 simulation that ESPN does of all the NFL games shows the Vikings in all purple. Does EA Sports know something we don’t?[/quote]

    I don’t know if they KNEW, but the KFAN (the vikings radio flagship) announcers just were talking about the Vikings going with purple-on-purple[/quote]
    Yep, it’s full-on purple-on-purple tonight. ESPN was just showing warm-ups.

  • Jonee | December 17, 2007 at 8:24 pm |

    I don’t usually go for the monocolor look, but I do love the Vikes’ purple pants.

  • cathy | December 17, 2007 at 8:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”187434″][quote comment=”187424″]Michael Stonebreaker, the player I aspired to be be during my formative years:

    http://www.ncsasport...

    He also had the greatest name of any linebacker ever![/quote]
    I don’t know, ‘Dick Butkus’ is a pretty damn good linebacker name also.[/quote]

    I’m partial to “chris hanburger” myself…mmmm hanburger….

  • S Bennett | December 17, 2007 at 8:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”187611″][quote comment=”187605″]I think the “.” on the Ruth jacket might be imperfections in the photo rather than an actual “.” in NY.

    Well, put it this way, have you EVER seen New York’s state abbreveated as N.Y.? No, like CA for California, even though it is two words it has never had periods after the N and the Y.[/quote]

    When I look at Gherig’s lettering on his jacket, I think I just might see a dot after the N – just at Speaker’s sleeve.

    SB

  • Jerico | December 17, 2007 at 8:43 pm |

    Aside from the Vikings’ dress purples (Mr. Lukas is probably having a coronary right now), Bears QB Kyle Orton is in the Revolution helmet.

  • jere | December 17, 2007 at 8:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”187667″][quote comment=”187611″][quote comment=”187605″]I think the “.” on the Ruth jacket might be imperfections in the photo rather than an actual “.” in NY.

    Well, put it this way, have you EVER seen New York’s state abbreveated as N.Y.? No, like CA for California, even though it is two words it has never had periods after the N and the Y.[/quote]

    When I look at Gherig’s lettering on his jacket, I think I just might see a dot after the N – just at Speaker’s sleeve.

    SB[/quote]
    I agree–both Ruth and Gehrig have “N.Y.” I think “folds” are a key to many a uniform mystery. It’s like when Rondo had the missing N on his jersey–it was just folded under. The weird thing was, someone said this, and then someone else said, “Okay, then where’s the NBA logo?” Uh, folded under.

  • KT | December 17, 2007 at 9:03 pm |

    Viking uniforms have never been as good since they decided to ditch the classic look.

    And their purple on purple just looks like ass to me.

    Actually, it looks like blue to me. I don’t know if it’s my TV or what.

  • David S. | December 17, 2007 at 9:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”187674″]Viking uniforms have never been as good since they decided to ditch the classic look.

    And their purple on purple just looks like ass to me.

    Actually, it looks like blue to me. I don’t know if it’s my TV or what.[/quote]

    I guess if you are going to look like idiots you might as well commit to the role.

    The Vikings have to be the worst dressed team in the NFL, no one else is even close. Heck, they make the Cardinals look good.

  • =bg= | December 17, 2007 at 9:13 pm |

    Somewhere, Lukas is staring at the MNF screen with a tear in his eye. “Purple…all…purple..”

  • spencer | December 17, 2007 at 9:14 pm |

    the all purples are awsome, they should wear them all the time

  • Jeremy | December 17, 2007 at 9:15 pm |

    I think that the Vikings look better in their all-purple uniforms. I know, monochromatic is kind of annoying sometimes, but I think this is a step up from wearing their white pants with their purple jerseys. That just looks weird.

  • Ryan | December 17, 2007 at 9:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”187676″]Somewhere, Lukas is staring at the MNF screen with a tear in his eye. “Purple…all…purple..”[/quote]

    I was thinking something more along the line of Marlon Brando’s last line in Apocalypse Now…

    “The horror! The horror!”

  • Ryan | December 17, 2007 at 9:37 pm |


    I was watching a U. of Minnesota basketball game on TV recently and am so glad they haven’t tried to update Goldy Gopher to make him more fierce looking. Remember some small kids love these guys, and they become big kids and big fans…

    I’m just happy that they still use their logo, whereas so many of these logos haven’t been used in decades… I’m a Wisconsin “fan” (I’m a Marquette fan, so I just root for the football team), so I’ll throw in a vote for Buckingham U. Badger

    http://www.onmilwauk...

  • LI Phil | December 17, 2007 at 9:42 pm |

    i think marquette should wear this ALL the time

    this however, is not something i hope to ever see again

    /somewhere, mr. lucas silently weeps

  • S Bennett | December 17, 2007 at 9:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”187679″][quote comment=”187676″]Somewhere, Lukas is staring at the MNF screen with a tear in his eye. “Purple…all…purple..”[/quote]

    I was thinking something more along the line of Marlon Brando’s last line in Apocalypse Now…

    “The horror! The horror!”[/quote]

    Yeah, but that’s when Kurtz realises he’s been an ass for quite some time. Are you implying that The Lucas heart will grow three sizes and we’ll all be allowed to get purple membership cards?

    I don’t hate the current purple Minny wears, but I can’t help but notice most (if not all) the fans seem to be wearing this one.

    SB

  • Ryan | December 17, 2007 at 9:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”187684″][quote comment=”187679″][quote comment=”187676″]Somewhere, Lukas is staring at the MNF screen with a tear in his eye. “Purple…all…purple..”[/quote]

    I was thinking something more along the line of Marlon Brando’s last line in Apocalypse Now…

    “The horror! The horror!”[/quote]

    Yeah, but that’s when Kurtz realises he’s been an ass for quite some time. Are you implying that The Lucas heart will grow three sizes and we’ll all be allowed to get purple membership cards?

    I don’t hate the current purple Minny wears, but I can’t help but notice most (if not all) the fans seem to be wearing this one.

    SB[/quote]
    Slightly bitter about the membership cards, are we?

    The new Minnesota purple also seem to be slightly blue-tinged, which is weirding me out

  • Tim McCabe | December 17, 2007 at 10:03 pm |

    With the way the Vikings are playing, we won’t have to worry about seeing all purple again any time soon.

  • Patrick | December 17, 2007 at 10:36 pm |

    I love that all the purple-lovers are coming out of the closet, so to speak, with the Vikings going monochrome tonight. However, they do look somewhat blue, perhaps it’s the dome’s fault? Anyway, here’s another cartoony logo that I absolutely love. Anyone have the story behind the St. Louis Browns alien guy?

    http://www.digitalde...

  • James Craven | December 17, 2007 at 10:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”187676″]“Somewhere, Lukas is staring at the MNF screen with a tear in his eye. ‘Purple…all…purple.'”[/quote]

    Paul is dying a little inside.

    What were you expecting me to say, something that would be deleted about puking?

  • LI Phil | December 17, 2007 at 10:57 pm |

    does this guy remind anyone of this guy?

  • Flip | December 17, 2007 at 11:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”187688″]I love that all the purple-lovers are coming out of the closet, so to speak, with the Vikings going monochrome tonight. However, they do look somewhat blue, perhaps it’s the dome’s fault? Anyway, here’s another cartoony logo that I absolutely love. Anyone have the story behind the St. Louis Browns alien guy?

    http://www.digitalde...
    Cuz purple rocks.
    That said, the Viking’s unis are still a disaster.

  • LI Phil | December 17, 2007 at 11:20 pm |

    latest knicks promotion, free crayon & cafeteria tray night predictably ends in disaster…meanwhile, assistant coach and director of player personnel brendan suhr puts the finishing touches on his resume

  • James Craven | December 17, 2007 at 11:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”187706″]“Latest knicks promotion, free crayon & cafeteria tray night predictably ends in disaster…meanwhile, assistant coach and director of player personnel Brendan Suhr puts the finishing touches on his resume.”[/quote]

    POST OF THE DAY WINNAH!

  • =bg= | December 17, 2007 at 11:30 pm |

    There’s only one look for the Vikes.
    Kapp, Osborn, Brown, Eller, Page, Larson, Tinglehoff, Krause, Marshall and the rest.

    http://64.17.171.58/...

    BUD GRANT would NOT do all-purple. A coach who didn’t have heaters on the sidelines for HIS OWN TEAM…

    http://www.vikingupd...

    would not do all-purple. Ever.

  • Kyle at IU | December 17, 2007 at 11:37 pm |

    #83 on the Vikes has a little stripe tear-age going on around his shoulders. it was with around 4 or 5 minutes left after #83 caught a pass at the line of scrimmage and fell over. Small tear, but it’s still there.

  • CV | December 17, 2007 at 11:55 pm |

    Well, I’m a Viking fan. The purple look was not good. BUT, it wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. I actually prefer it to the all white road look, but I think I have seen enough and it is back to white pants if I were in charge.

    IMO though, the white shirts with the purple pants may be the new unis best combo.

  • Paul | December 18, 2007 at 12:51 am |

    All I kept thinking tonight was what if the Bears could have worn the “lovely” orange jerseys to go with the purple…

  • Ben | December 18, 2007 at 2:15 am |

    Two Vikes that I could see were sporting Purple and College Gold kicks, Sharper was one, Sidney Rice, and Antoine Winfield, but his are covered with spats. This may have well been covered previously but I busted out my 65 inch HDTV Christmas present a little early for the Vikes.

    Winfield is the only one I can find a pic of

    PS Tavarius Jackson looks just as shitty in HD and cable.

  • Jerico | December 18, 2007 at 2:16 am |

    [quote comment=”187674″]Viking uniforms have never been as good since they decided to ditch the classic look.

    And their purple on purple just looks like ass to me.

    Actually, it looks like blue to me. I don’t know if it’s my TV or what.[/quote]

    How about Forum blue? :D

  • Abe | December 18, 2007 at 2:38 am |

    That purple-on-purple wasn’t so bad. The stripes are continuous and line up very well, so it looks good – if only they didn’t have that stupid purple logo patch in the stripe, it would look perfect.

    Some teams can pull it off, some can’t.

  • DenverGregg | December 18, 2007 at 8:02 am |

    I like purple, but last night was atrocious. Those Vikes unis are hideous. The only thing worse is teal.

  • Justin B | December 19, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”187624″]The Madden 08 simulation that ESPN does of all the NFL games shows the Vikings in all purple. Does EA Sports know something we don’t?[/quote]

    It also forecasted Orton with 4 TD.