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Hokies Conquer ACC, ACC Conquers Subtlety

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Hey, which league does Virginia Tech play in? Someone drop me a line when you find out.

The “locker room” T-shirt has been growing more and more prominent in the last 10 years or so, to the point of being utterly ridiculous. I give you Exhibit A, from the Hokies’ Saturday win. There are five ACC logos visible on barely more than one guy. And if he had his helmet, there’d be another on the nose bumper.

Perhaps a more important point would be the ABC and Dr. Pepper logos worked into the championship game logo. I know Virginia Tech had no say in it, but ABC got its money’s worth by, you know, broadcasting the game, and I’m sure there were plenty of Dr. Pepper spots. So let’s leave the unis alone, please. — Bryan

 

209 comments to Hokies Conquer ACC, ACC Conquers Subtlety

  • Peter Wunsch | December 2, 2007 at 7:35 am |

    Just to retain accuracy, it is Dr Pepper not Dr. Pepper

  • SWW | December 2, 2007 at 7:50 am |

    For anyone looking for the fifth, it is on the sticker on the t-shirt. It says ACC Locker Room Product.

    I had a full response asking about the fifth typed out and looked at the picture one more time and found it.

  • Johnrocks_32 | December 2, 2007 at 8:45 am |

    Wow Nothing on the ugliest football game in history (uni wise) Oregon St. At Oregon.

  • dootie bubble | December 2, 2007 at 8:48 am |

    One on the hat, one on each of the jerseys, and ACC wordmark at the top of the t-shirt, championship logo to the southeast of the word “Champions”, and the sticker near the guys left hand. That makes six. Given the fact that the ACC champion got blasted by 41 points by the SEC champion, maybe the conference should worry more about the product they have on the field than branding themselves off the field.

  • hus | December 2, 2007 at 9:08 am |

    There are five ACC logos visible on barely more than one guy.

    If you count the one on the tag, you missed the point of this article

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 9:11 am |

    eschewing the uglyuni trend of yesterday, the warriors have completed a perfect season…now…lets watch them get jobbed out of the bcs a la boise state last year

    i’d also expect the dawgs to get screwed out of the national title game, with the bayou bengals prolly getting the nod…guess we’ll find out tonite…of course, had tennessee NOT gone the creamsickle route, they might have taken out lsu

    my HOPE for the title game: OSU v GA
    my PREDICTION: OSU vs LSU

  • Stuby | December 2, 2007 at 9:21 am |

    My favorite thing about the ACC is that they have a ‘Coastal’ Division and an ‘Atlantic’ Division. That’s like having a Western Division and an Almost-Western division.

  • BigMatt | December 2, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    Who cares? All you guys do anymore is bitch and moan about “logo creep”. Get over it. The shirts are fine. Do you guys go crazy when you see the Chevy BowTie all over their vehicles?
    BTW, I LOVE Nike and all their wonderful Swooshes!!!

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    [quote comment=”180334″]My favorite thing about the ACC is that they have a ‘Coastal’ Division and an ‘Atlantic’ Division. That’s like having a Western Division and an Almost-Western division.[/quote]

    and what do the “A” and “C” (the first letter C) in ACC stand for?

  • Justin | December 2, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    How is this the lead picture today and not this disaster

  • Stuby | December 2, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”180337″][quote comment=”180334″]My favorite thing about the ACC is that they have a ‘Coastal’ Division and an ‘Atlantic’ Division. That’s like having a Western Division and an Almost-Western division.[/quote]

    and what do the “A” and “C” (the first letter C) in ACC stand for?[/quote]
    No kidding, but that’s still lame.

  • Jason | December 2, 2007 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment=”180340″]How is this the lead picture today and not this disaster[/quote]

    Or a pic of Tennessee. *shudder*

  • Art | December 2, 2007 at 9:39 am |

    Does anybody know why Hawaii wore their road white uniforms and abandoned their all black uniforms?

  • C.N. | December 2, 2007 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=”180331″]eschewing the uglyuni trend of yesterday, the warriors have completed a perfect season…now…lets watch them get jobbed out of the bcs a la boise state last year

    i’d also expect the dawgs to get screwed out of the national title game, with the bayou bengals prolly getting the nod…guess we’ll find out tonite…of course, had tennessee NOT gone the creamsickle route, they might have taken out lsu

    my HOPE for the title game: OSU v GA
    my PREDICTION: OSU vs LSU[/quote]

    Uh, Boise State played in the BCS last year… remember that whole Fiesta Bowl win over Oklahoma, you know, the greatest game in college football history?

    I bet Hawaii will play in the Sugar Bowl.

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”180347]
    Uh, Boise State played in the BCS last year… remember that whole Fiesta Bowl win over Oklahoma, you know, the greatest game in college football history?[/quote]

    my bad…i meant “BCS title game” (like in my opinion boise got screwed out of, as an undefeated team)…and we’ll leave the “playoff” proposal for another time (like a plus-one maybe)…

    be nice to see hawaii in the sugar…they deserve to play in the big easy in ONE of the bowls this year

  • Daniel Tearle | December 2, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    Totally off topic I know, but maybe of interest to uniform spotters; it’s the Professional Footballers Association centenary game today, England XI v Rest of the World, and the ROW kits are all numbered 100.

    Also spotted ROW defender Lorenzo Amoruso’s shirt seems to have been spelled wrong (Amaruso) with an O scribbled over the A in marker pen!

  • Jon Stone | December 2, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    I went to the Chicago Wolves game last Saturday, and they were wearing their altenates from last year. I’ve been looking at their website, and it looks like they have been wearing them for quite a while, both at home and on the road.

  • Mike Huntowski | December 2, 2007 at 10:09 am |

    ..because Hawaii would really get “jobbed” if they don’t make the BCS championship game after playing the easiest schedule in the country…

  • Ian | December 2, 2007 at 10:12 am |
  • Mike | December 2, 2007 at 10:17 am |

    I realize I will be in the overwhelming minority here but I like the Oregon “yellow, yellow, green combo”. It’s unique and entirely their own. Now if they went ” yellow, yellow, yellow”, my head would explode. The Oregon State uniforms aren’t as bad as I thought, but when it comes to the pants, it looks like Nike designers just plain ran out of ideas.

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”180361″]..because Hawaii would really get “jobbed” if they don’t make the BCS championship game after playing the easiest schedule in the country…[/quote]

    that’s a fair point…and why, as an undefeated team they’re not ranked higher…but…they’re also undefeated…which brings up the whole playoff deal…as boise proved last year, strength of schedule doesn’t mean they can’t take on the ‘big boys’…but that’s not an argument for the uniboard

  • James Craven | December 2, 2007 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”180337″][quote comment=”180334″]“My favorite thing about the ACC is that they have a ‘Coastal’ Division and an ‘Atlantic’ Division. That’s like having a Western Division and an Almost-Western division.”

    “And what do the ‘A’ and ‘C’ (the first letter C) in ACC stand for?”[/quote][/quote]

    All Chokers Conference. (Circa 1979 NCAA Tournament.)

  • Kyle O. from VA | December 2, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    Bryan missed the worst thing about that picture. You see how there’s a lanyard around the player’s neck that has some writing printed on it… Well turns out that that lanyard is attached to a giant FedEx Orange Bowl patch. It’s college football corporate bling!

    Direct link isn’t working, but you can see it here .

    Funny thing is – thanks to BCS Armageddon Saturday – if the votes fall just right and VT plays in the championship game, they won’t even be in the Orange Bowl. I seriously doubt that will happen, but wouldn’t it be funny if it did?

  • Jeffrey | December 2, 2007 at 10:38 am |

    In regards to the classic college football uniform that haven’t been overhauled I have to take exception with UCLA. They have kept the shoulder srtiping intact as well as the grey facemasks on the helmet but if you compare the late 60’s (baby blue jersy with white/grey numbers) of the Gary Beban era with the current era and I think they screwed up a classic look. Why is it necessary to have white jerseys with dark blue (instead of baby blue) numbers outlined in gold and then outlined in black? (They have subscribed to the current Buffalo Bills/Detroit Lions, ‘busy is better’ motto.)

  • Kyle O. from VA | December 2, 2007 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”180376″]Bryan missed the worst thing about that picture. You see how there’s a lanyard around the player’s neck that has some writing printed on it… Well turns out that that lanyard is attached to a giant FedEx Orange Bowl patch. It’s college football corporate bling!

    Direct link isn’t working, but you can see it here .

    Funny thing is – thanks to BCS Armageddon Saturday – if the votes fall just right and VT plays in the championship game, they won’t even be in the Orange Bowl. I seriously doubt that will happen, but wouldn’t it be funny if it did?[/quote]

    I also just noticed that in the picture with the Virginia Tech’s Justin Harper stirs up the fans caption, the giant FedEx Orange Bowl patch appears to be double-sided. More corporate space!

  • Bryan Redemske | December 2, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”180319″]Wow Nothing on the ugliest football game in history (uni wise) Oregon St. At Oregon.[/quote]

    No, and here’s why — 75 percent of yesterday’s comments are about that game, or West Virginia or Tennessee. There’s no need to keep beating the horse. It’s long since dead.

  • Adam | December 2, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    Can we please stop the “first comment” posts before they really get started?

  • John in Athens | December 2, 2007 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”180336″]Do you guys go crazy when you see the Chevy BowTie all over their vehicles?[/quote]

    Chevy doesn’t put their logo all over their vehicles.

    To reach Nike’s ridiculous level of creep, Chevy would have to put their logo on every outer component of their car: the grill, the side panels, the doors, the tires, the windows, etc.

    It is for that reason that no one minds Chevy’s logo placement, but a good number of folks (not everyone and obviously not you) are irritated but the swoosh.

    In the words of David Byrne: “Say something once, why say it again?”

    Someone get some Talking Heads for the ACC!

  • zach | December 2, 2007 at 11:17 am |

    Anyone catch the glorious Hawaii uniforms last night?

    Why is it that they can’t get into the title game, but OSU, who also, played nobody, and lost a game, are getting the bid?

  • Mike Engle | December 2, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”180389″][quote comment=”180336″]Do you guys go crazy when you see the Chevy BowTie all over their vehicles?[/quote]

    Chevy doesn’t put their logo all over their vehicles.

    To reach Nike’s ridiculous level of creep, Chevy would have to put their logo on every outer component of their car: the grill, the side panels, the doors, the tires, the windows, etc.

    It is for that reason that no one minds Chevy’s logo placement, but a good number of folks (not everyone and obviously not you) are irritated but the swoosh.

    In the words of David Byrne: “Say something once, why say it again?”

    Someone get some Talking Heads for the ACC![/quote]
    Take a Chevy car, remove the hubcaps with their logos and replace them with blank ones (or blinged-out ones), no big deal.
    Take a Nike swoosh on an Ohio State football player’s shoe, accidentally obscure the tip of the swoosh with a tape job, school gets fined.
    There IS a difference.

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”180392″]OSU played nobody, and lost a game, are getting the bid?[/quote]

    they didn’t play nobody, they played michigan

    oh…wait

  • Justin | December 2, 2007 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”180392″]
    Why is it that they can’t get into the title game, but OSU, who also, played nobody, and lost a game, are getting the bid?[/quote]

    That is a very good question. The Big Ten is the weakest BCS conference this year, no doubt in my mind. Ohio State had a cakewalk. Hopefully they will get destroyed by whoever they play in the title game.

  • Dukie | December 2, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”180337″][quote comment=”180334″]My favorite thing about the ACC is that they have a ‘Coastal’ Division and an ‘Atlantic’ Division. That’s like having a Western Division and an Almost-Western division.[/quote]

    and what do the “A” and “C” (the first letter C) in ACC stand for?[/quote]

  • Dukie | December 2, 2007 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”180403″][quote comment=”180337″][quote comment=”180334″]My favorite thing about the ACC is that they have a ‘Coastal’ Division and an ‘Atlantic’ Division. That’s like having a Western Division and an Almost-Western division.[/quote]

    and what do the “A” and “C” (the first letter C) in ACC stand for?[/quote][/quote]

    Oops, sorry, I was going to say that the ACC is the Atlantic Coast Conference. After we brought in Miami, VA Tech, and BC a few years ago, it was divided into the Atlantic and Coastal Divisions and now all the teams don’t play each other. I’m a senior at Duke and since being here we’ve never played NC State in football and we only have 1 game a year against them in basketball. It’s not the classic ACC, but with the new teams came the new divisions.

  • JMdogs | December 2, 2007 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”180396″][quote comment=”180392″]OSU played nobody, and lost a game, are getting the bid?[/quote]

    they didn’t play nobody, they played michigan

    oh…wait[/quote]

    and michigan lost to Appalation State, then choked at the end of the season….hmmmm yeah they were a quality opponent

  • TD | December 2, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    The Hawaii players were holding up first editions of the Honolulu Advertiser That said “PERFECT”.. The photo on the newspaper shows Hawaii’s Jason Laumoli celebrating in the home green unis. (obvious in the video screen-shot)

    Hawaii, of course, wore white last night.

  • Stevo | December 2, 2007 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”180411″]The Hawaii players were holding up first editions of the Honolulu Advertiser That said “PERFECT”.. The photo on the newspaper shows Hawaii’s Jason Laumoli celebrating in the home green unis. (obvious in the video screen-shot)

    Hawaii, of course, wore white last night.[/quote]

    Gotta love those pre-printed newspaper “Headlines”. Does anyone actually think that there’s a newspress hidden deep underneath the stands just to print those off at the final gun?

  • Matt Lesser | December 2, 2007 at 12:25 pm |

    On The NFL Today on CBS, Boomer, Shannon, Dand and the Coach are all wearing #21 stickers on their jackets, and they’re the same size and color as the helmet ones…

  • Marc | December 2, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    You know Paul, all this talk about the Oregon and WVU games, no one is talking about the LSU TENN game.. Orange on Orange vs Yellow pants…

    it wasnt that nice and was hard to look at in HD

    http://scores.espn.g...

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”180419″]You know Paul, all this talk about the Oregon and WVU games, no one is talking about the LSU TENN game.. Orange on Orange vs Yellow pants…

    it wasnt that nice and was hard to look at in HD

    http://scores.espn.g...

    perhaps you should have read yesterday’s comments

  • Marc | December 2, 2007 at 12:30 pm |

    and also… about the ” 21 ” patch..

    where are the Broncos going to put it? do they even have any room left on the back of their helmets?

  • Scott | December 2, 2007 at 12:34 pm |

    Here’s a screenshot on the NFL today patches, Matt beat me too it! http://mail.google.c...

  • Dre | December 2, 2007 at 12:37 pm |

    Take a Chevy car, remove the hubcaps with their logos and replace them with blank ones (or blinged-out ones), no big deal.
    Take a Nike swoosh on an Ohio State football player’s shoe, accidentally obscure the tip of the swoosh with a tape job, school gets fined.
    There IS a difference.

    Very bad example Mike… Let me remind you that Nike pays millions of dollars to a school to wear their product. It is a form of marketing, if anything get on the schools for compromising the essence of their uniforms not Nike. Now I’m assuming you drive a Chevy, or maybe someone you know does, how much money did Chevy pay you to drive the car? That’s why they don’t care if you take off every logo!

  • BA | December 2, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”180377″]Why is it necessary to have white jerseys with dark blue (instead of baby blue) numbers outlined in gold and then outlined in black? (They have subscribed to the current Buffalo Bills/Detroit Lions, ‘busy is better’ motto.)[/quote]

    UCLA’s numbers aren’t dark blue.

  • DonD | December 2, 2007 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”180364″]GROSS

    What were these teams thinking?[/quote]
    I can’t decide if OSU is wearing practice skins or their girlfriends orange bikini tops over their jerseys.

  • Marty Met | December 2, 2007 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”180364″]GROSS

    What were these teams thinking?[/quote]

    They were thinking the same thing I am. BOTH of those uniforms look GREAT!!! If you want to see gross check out this photo

  • JD | December 2, 2007 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”180428″][quote comment=”180377″]Why is it necessary to have white jerseys with dark blue (instead of baby blue) numbers outlined in gold and then outlined in black? (They have subscribed to the current Buffalo Bills/Detroit Lions, ‘busy is better’ motto.)[/quote]

    UCLA’s numbers aren’t dark blue.[/quote]
    Ok… but back to the original point: is there anything wrong with these?

  • Marty Met | December 2, 2007 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”180319″]Wow Nothing on the ugliest football game in history (uni wise) Oregon St. At Oregon.[/quote]

    NO WAY!!! I loved it. The UGLIEST game in history is got to be a tie between Penn State vs. Notre Dame or this. Boring to the point of tears.

  • Joey | December 2, 2007 at 1:04 pm |

    Also, if the player in the picture lowers the t-shirt down just a little bit, you’ll see “ACC” on the NCAA-football-looking patch on his right shoulder just below the huge ACC Championship patch.

  • James Craven | December 2, 2007 at 1:09 pm |

    Sometimes, compared to the garbage that is Oregon and other schools, plain (like “Meechagin”, Penn State and Notre Dame) is beautiful.

  • Spudder | December 2, 2007 at 1:10 pm |

    HUSKIES WEARING HOME UNIS — When the game starts, you’ll see UW wearing its home uniforms. Apparently, Hawaii wanted to wear its home whites saying it was simply a look they liked. UW agreed after getting assurance that there wasn’t some “gamesmanship” involved, such as having a “white-out” night imploring all the fans to wear white.

  • Jeremy | December 2, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    Although the game is barely relevant, the Jets are wearing the NY Titans jerseys vs. the Dolphins.

  • Kevin | December 2, 2007 at 1:28 pm |

    Several Rams players are sans 21 sticker. Also Rams in all blue.

  • Lee W | December 2, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    I have few (if any) Texans with the 21 decal so far, Titans in the Columbia Light Blue alt jersey, navy pant combo

  • Mike | December 2, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    I know this is not uni related…. but did the BCS change in the past few weeks? This is the system and formula that the conferences agreed on before the season started. It has not changed has it? And for any body interested Ohio State did beat the same Washington team that UH played yesterday. Just my two cents!

  • Azul Army | December 2, 2007 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”180436″][quote comment=”180428″][quote comment=”180377″]Why is it necessary to have white jerseys with dark blue (instead of baby blue) numbers outlined in gold and then outlined in black? (They have subscribed to the current Buffalo Bills/Detroit Lions, ‘busy is better’ motto.)[/quote]

    UCLA’s numbers aren’t dark blue.[/quote]
    Ok… but back to the original point: is there anything wrong with these?[/quote]
    [quote comment=”180436″][quote comment=”180428″][quote comment=”180377″]Why is it necessary to have white jerseys with dark blue (instead of baby blue) numbers outlined in gold and then outlined in black? (They have subscribed to the current Buffalo Bills/Detroit Lions, ‘busy is better’ motto.)[/quote]

    UCLA’s numbers aren’t dark blue.[/quote]
    Ok… but back to the original point: is there anything wrong with these?[/quote]

    While looking for a picture of the white UCLA jerseys with the dark blue numbers, (the do exist from the 90’s), I ran across These Socks which should be put in the UniWatch Hall of Fame, for obvious reasons.

    But, I digress. Hereare the jerseys with dark blue numbers. But back to more socks

  • DCM | December 2, 2007 at 1:36 pm |

    Sorry to beat the dead horse…some of us weren’t around yesterday. Did anyone mention how every team in a big game that took a ‘fashion risk’ lost? Monochromanic Tennessee, West Virginia, and Missouri.

    And I agree that UCLA had screwed up their classic look.

    As for the BCS, this is the 7th of 10 years that it’s been messed up. Many teams have arguments, but to openly lobby to be included is poor form. Georgia has said little, it was the BCS that put them at four. For the number 4 team not to be in the title game after 1 and 2 lose shows there’s a flawed system (I do understand a wiining team could skip over them, but a main reason LSU won was because Aigne had a bad 4th quarter – probably the uni!).

  • Greg | December 2, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    Oregon pulled off the look yesterday because it was devoid of black. Yellow and green is always a good combo, and that one worked. State…ehh, they need to wake up, theirs are just too much stupid stuff to handle.

    COLT.15!! He’s legit, let’s have a fun championship for once. I just cant stand how the national championship teams are going to be rewarded cause they lost their game early in the year. One loss OSU is definitely not that much better than two loss USC.

  • Azul Army | December 2, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”180457″][quote comment=”180436″][quote comment=”180428″][quote comment=”180377″]Why is it necessary to have white jerseys with dark blue (instead of baby blue) numbers outlined in gold and then outlined in black? (They have subscribed to the current Buffalo Bills/Detroit Lions, ‘busy is better’ motto.)[/quote]

    UCLA’s numbers aren’t dark blue.[/quote]
    Ok… but back to the original point: is there anything wrong with these?[/quote]
    [quote comment=”180436″][quote comment=”180428″][quote comment=”180377″]Why is it necessary to have white jerseys with dark blue (instead of baby blue) numbers outlined in gold and then outlined in black? (They have subscribed to the current Buffalo Bills/Detroit Lions, ‘busy is better’ motto.)[/quote]

    UCLA’s numbers aren’t dark blue.[/quote]
    Ok… but back to the original point: is there anything wrong with these?[/quote]

    While looking for a picture of the white UCLA jerseys with the dark blue numbers, (the do exist from the 90’s), I ran across These Socks which should be put in the UniWatch Hall of Fame, for obvious reasons.

    But, I digress. Here are the jerseys with dark blue numbers. But back to more socks[/quote]

  • Mike | December 2, 2007 at 1:40 pm |

    Ohio State lost there second to last game….

  • drizzle | December 2, 2007 at 1:45 pm |

    It looks like the referee in the JAX/IND game, Terry McAulay, is wearing a V Foundation pin.

  • JD | December 2, 2007 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”180464″]It looks like the referee in the JAX/IND game, Terry McAulay, is wearing a V Foundation pin.[/quote]
    That rebel. He’ll get fined for sure.

  • Jamal | December 2, 2007 at 2:00 pm |

    Did anyone see the Arizona vs. Arizona State game? Sun Devil running back Dmitri Nance didn’t have a nameplate. Anyone got a pic? By the way the Sun Devils won and beat Stoops for the 3th year in a row.

  • Jeff P. | December 2, 2007 at 2:08 pm |

    OSU is in the title game…get over it people. When the season started, they faced three tough ranked opponents, #5 UM, #7 Wisconsin, and #17 Penn State. It’s not their fault those teams imploded.

    You want into the title game? Don’t lose.

    Back on topic…

    Seahawks looking good in their away jerseys. Home? Not so much.

  • The Hemogoblin | December 2, 2007 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”180470″][quote comment=”180464″]It looks like the referee in the JAX/IND game, Terry McAulay, is wearing a V Foundation pin.[/quote]
    That rebel. He’ll get fined for sure.[/quote]

    Probably, but I hope not. I

  • The Hemogoblin | December 2, 2007 at 2:13 pm |

    that was a heart, followed by “the no fun league”

  • Joe J. | December 2, 2007 at 2:18 pm |

    The Tulsa-UCF game yesterday may have been the most unwatchable of them all (color and uni-wise). Those UCF/Georgia Tech gold unis look terrible on tv versus teams wearing white!

  • nikerulezu | December 2, 2007 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”180459″]Sorry to beat the dead horse…some of us weren’t around yesterday. Did anyone mention how every team in a big game that took a ‘fashion risk’ lost? Monochromanic Tennessee, West Virginia, and Missouri.

    And I agree that UCLA had screwed up their classic look.

    As for the BCS, this is the 7th of 10 years that it’s been messed up. Many teams have arguments, but to openly lobby to be included is poor form. Georgia has said little, it was the BCS that put them at four. For the number 4 team not to be in the title game after 1 and 2 lose shows there’s a flawed system (I do understand a wiining team could skip over them, but a main reason LSU won was because Aigne had a bad 4th quarter – probably the uni!).[/quote]

    if all-black, all-yellow, and all-orange is a “fashion risk,” then why isn’t ok’s all-white?

    don’t be so racist

    yesterday’s best uni’s: hawai’i!!!!!

    yesterday’s best looking games: az-state, oregon-osu

  • nikerulezu | December 2, 2007 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”180474″]OSU is in the title game…get over it people. When the season started, they faced three tough ranked opponents, #5 UM, #7 Wisconsin, and #17 Penn State. It’s not their fault those teams imploded.

    You want into the title game? Don’t lose.

    Back on topic…

    Seahawks looking good in their away jerseys. Home? Not so much.[/quote]

    um, wisco, and penn state sucked this year. just becuase the preseason poll had them ranked doesn’t mean they were good a the beginning of the year. osu played 1 good team this year, illinois, and lost at home.

    illinois is the only one of these 5 teams with good uni’s

  • KW | December 2, 2007 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”180426″]Take a Chevy car, remove the hubcaps with their logos and replace them with blank ones (or blinged-out ones), no big deal.
    Take a Nike swoosh on an Ohio State football player’s shoe, accidentally obscure the tip of the swoosh with a tape job, school gets fined.
    There IS a difference.

    Very bad example Mike… Let me remind you that Nike pays millions of dollars to a school to wear their product. It is a form of marketing, if anything get on the schools for compromising the essence of their uniforms not Nike. Now I’m assuming you drive a Chevy, or maybe someone you know does, how much money did Chevy pay you to drive the car? That’s why they don’t care if you take off every logo![/quote]
    I couldnt agree with you more…I work for a company that supplies equipment for colleges and pro teams. Not all schools and players are paid to where and use the equipment but at the very least they are supplied with it free of charge or at a severely discounted rate. If Ohio State’s athletic department wants to pony up the bucks to outfit the team in all uniforms and equipment then Nike would not be able to fine them. This is far from the case though…so not only is the original comment from Mike lousy it actually shows why it is justified as compared to something that you purchase.

  • KW | December 2, 2007 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”180436″][quote comment=”180428″][quote comment=”180377″]Why is it necessary to have white jerseys with dark blue (instead of baby blue) numbers outlined in gold and then outlined in black? (They have subscribed to the current Buffalo Bills/Detroit Lions, ‘busy is better’ motto.)[/quote]

    UCLA’s numbers aren’t dark blue.[/quote]
    Ok… but back to the original point: is there anything wrong with these?[/quote]
    Yes, there is…Navy is not the school’s color and all sports teams at UCLA are required to use school colors going forward…Air Force Blue and Gold NOT Navy and Yellow

  • Steve | December 2, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    Why are the Jets wearing their Titans throwbacks in an away game? Has this been done before in a game that didn’t involve a special promotion involving both teams?

  • Micah | December 2, 2007 at 2:30 pm |

    In the Colts/Jags game, Joseph Addai has a major wardrobe malfunction and has a large tear in the back of his pants, on his left leg. I mean, it’s a huge hole!! Not exactly the thing you wanna see while watching the game; LOL. Sorry, no screen grab yet.

  • Johnny O | December 2, 2007 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”180491″]In the Colts/Jags game, Joseph Addai has a major wardrobe malfunction and has a large tear in the back of his pants, on his left leg. I mean, it’s a huge hole!! Not exactly the thing you wanna see while watching the game; LOL. Sorry, no screen grab yet.[/quote]
    Don’t worry…I got your back

    Addai pants malfunction

    2nd pic.He is gonna need new pants at the half

  • TD | December 2, 2007 at 2:34 pm |

    Not really uni-related, but the Redskins paid tribute to Sean Taylor by using the missing-man formation for the first defensive play – 10 men, no safety.

    I remember USC ran a similar play on an extra point in honor of their placekicker who died in the offseason last year, but first I’ve ever heard of someone doing that in a regular possession. I don’t know whether the Bills were in on it or not, or whether the play was even run.

  • Greg | December 2, 2007 at 2:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”180463″]Ohio State lost there second to last game….[/quote]

    and then have been idle for 2 weeks and moving up from other teams losing. they’re a perfect example.

  • Mark | December 2, 2007 at 2:41 pm |

    With all the Sean Taylor/21 uni-related tributes (helmet decal, jersey patch) I thought the best was the Redskins fielding only 10 men on defense on the first possession. Classy, understated and appropriate.

    Sometimes less is more?

  • Mike | December 2, 2007 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”180484″][quote comment=”180426″]Take a Chevy car, remove the hubcaps with their logos and replace them with blank ones (or blinged-out ones), no big deal.
    Take a Nike swoosh on an Ohio State football player’s shoe, accidentally obscure the tip of the swoosh with a tape job, school gets fined.
    There IS a difference.

    Very bad example Mike… Let me remind you that Nike pays millions of dollars to a school to wear their product. It is a form of marketing, if anything get on the schools for compromising the essence of their uniforms not Nike. Now I’m assuming you drive a Chevy, or maybe someone you know does, how much money did Chevy pay you to drive the car? That’s why they don’t care if you take off every logo![/quote]
    I couldnt agree with you more…I work for a company that supplies equipment for colleges and pro teams. Not all schools and players are paid to where and use the equipment but at the very least they are supplied with it free of charge or at a severely discounted rate. If Ohio State’s athletic department wants to pony up the bucks to outfit the team in all uniforms and equipment then Nike would not be able to fine them. This is far from the case though…so not only is the original comment from Mike lousy it actually shows why it is justified as compared to something that you purchase.[/quote]
    Amen. It’s like when a car company pays huge sums of money to have their cars in a movie. You can bet that if one of the cars didn’t have the correct logo the car company would be furious, and a lawsuit would be in order.

    I honestly don’t have a problem with logo creep. Sure, it can look sorta bad at times, but its how the world works, so deal with it.

  • Ryan | December 2, 2007 at 2:47 pm |

    The refs in the Seattle/Philly game are wearing Cooperalls, excuse me, I mean slacks.

    Sorry no screen grab.

  • josh's twin | December 2, 2007 at 2:47 pm |

    Not really uni-related, but the Redskins paid tribute to Sean Taylor by using the missing-man formation for the first defensive play – 10 men, no safety.

    I remember USC ran a similar play on an extra point in honor of their placekicker who died in the offseason last year, but first I’ve ever heard of someone doing that in a regular possession. I don’t know whether the Bills were in on it or not, or whether the play was even run.

    Any unsanctioned striped tributes showing up in this game?

  • KW | December 2, 2007 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”180497″][quote comment=”180484″][quote comment=”180426″]Take a Chevy car, remove the hubcaps with their logos and replace them with blank ones (or blinged-out ones), no big deal.
    Take a Nike swoosh on an Ohio State football player’s shoe, accidentally obscure the tip of the swoosh with a tape job, school gets fined.
    There IS a difference.

    Very bad example Mike… Let me remind you that Nike pays millions of dollars to a school to wear their product. It is a form of marketing, if anything get on the schools for compromising the essence of their uniforms not Nike. Now I’m assuming you drive a Chevy, or maybe someone you know does, how much money did Chevy pay you to drive the car? That’s why they don’t care if you take off every logo![/quote]
    I couldnt agree with you more…I work for a company that supplies equipment for colleges and pro teams. Not all schools and players are paid to where and use the equipment but at the very least they are supplied with it free of charge or at a severely discounted rate. If Ohio State’s athletic department wants to pony up the bucks to outfit the team in all uniforms and equipment then Nike would not be able to fine them. This is far from the case though…so not only is the original comment from Mike lousy it actually shows why it is justified as compared to something that you purchase.[/quote]
    Amen. It’s like when a car company pays huge sums of money to have their cars in a movie. You can bet that if one of the cars didn’t have the correct logo the car company would be furious, and a lawsuit would be in order.

    I honestly don’t have a problem with logo creep. Sure, it can look sorta bad at times, but its how the world works, so deal with it.[/quote]
    Really gets tiring to come on here and all you read is logo-creep this and logo-creep that…if you are a huge Michigan fan and dont want to see a companies logo then open up your wallet and write a check for what the suppliers are writing it for.
    Thats like saying that I really hate when companies talk about their products during the commercials of a game.
    There is a service they are paying for and that is promotions…
    As far as all of the bashing on some of the uniforms that Nike and others have come out with keep in mind that they are made to appeal to an 15-25 year old NOT some 40 year old who last saw a competitive field in High School…trust me if the kids who had to wear them didnt like them they would get changed over time

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”180488″]Why are the Jets wearing their Titans throwbacks in an away game? Has this been done before in a game that didn’t involve a special promotion involving both teams?[/quote]

    good q…maybe there’s more J-E-T-S fans in miama than the meadowlands…if they’re tryin’ to sell jerseys down there…not exactly doin’ a brisk bizness up here in NY

    i happen to think the uni’s are frikkin’ SCHWEET and i’d be the first one to say dump the green…course, marty’s prolly upset gang green aint in ALL green today

    lambs actually look good in all blue, but it’s not a look i’d wanna see more than once a season

  • josh's twin | December 2, 2007 at 2:55 pm |

    I honestly don’t have a problem with logo creep. Sure, it can look sorta bad at times, but its how the world works, so deal with it.

    It’s only how the world works if the world tolerates it. It looks bad all the time, and should be resisted at all times.

  • Tom C. | December 2, 2007 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”180494″]Not really uni-related, but the Redskins paid tribute to Sean Taylor by using the missing-man formation for the first defensive play – 10 men, no safety.

    I remember USC ran a similar play on an extra point in honor of their placekicker who died in the offseason last year, but first I’ve ever heard of someone doing that in a regular possession. I don’t know whether the Bills were in on it or not, or whether the play was even run.[/quote]

    I don’t know if they were in on it, but they benefited from it….
    From NFL.com, ” 1-10-BUF 32 (7:10) 22-F.Jackson left end pushed ob at WAS 46 for 22 yards (30-L.Landry). Redskins’ defensive formation included only 10 men in honor of Sean Taylor.”

  • Robb | December 2, 2007 at 2:58 pm |

    Clinton Portis is playing with a decent sized whole in the back of his jersey and the Bills have the 21 sticker covering up the buffalo “tail” on their helmets

  • Mike | December 2, 2007 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”180509″]I honestly don’t have a problem with logo creep. Sure, it can look sorta bad at times, but its how the world works, so deal with it.

    It’s only how the world works if the world tolerates it. It looks bad all the time, and should be resisted at all times.[/quote]
    Haha how do you plan on resisting it? I’m sorry, pouting on a message board won’t do much.

    Look, I love this site and come here everyday, I’m just saying that logo creep is one area where it gets taken way overboard.

  • Eric B | December 2, 2007 at 3:05 pm |

    question about cold-weather football gear:

    some players (usually quarterbacks) have pockets on the front of their jerseys. are those sewn on or are they completely new jerseys? also, are the jerseys worn in cold weather the same as the ones for warm weather? is there a heavier, more solid material or are they all the same?

  • chance | December 2, 2007 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”180450″]Although the game is barely relevant, the Jets are wearing the NY Titans jerseys vs. the Dolphins.[/quote]

    Hey, I think it’s relevant every time the Jets wear those beauties.

  • Eric B | December 2, 2007 at 3:27 pm |

    another ripped helmet decal in the kc/sd game today. jared allen has lost part of the arrowhead on the left side of his helmet.

    also, just noticed that LT has a bit taken out of the lightning bolt on the left side of his helmet, too.

  • tim | December 2, 2007 at 3:39 pm |

    Oregons jerseys yesterday were awesome..you can complain about how unclassic they were..but thats exactly it they dont want classic they want MODERN and that was pretty bad ass

  • Bryan Redemske | December 2, 2007 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”180513″][quote comment=”180509″]I honestly don’t have a problem with logo creep. Sure, it can look sorta bad at times, but its how the world works, so deal with it.

    It’s only how the world works if the world tolerates it. It looks bad all the time, and should be resisted at all times.[/quote]
    Haha how do you plan on resisting it? I’m sorry, pouting on a message board won’t do much.

    Look, I love this site and come here everyday, I’m just saying that logo creep is one area where it gets taken way overboard.[/quote]

    But couldn’t you also say that a half-dozen ACC logos on one guy is a bit overboard?

  • Eric B | December 2, 2007 at 3:57 pm |

    there were more logos on the unis and field than there were fans in the seats.

  • chance | December 2, 2007 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”180514″]question about cold-weather football gear:

    some players (usually quarterbacks) have pockets on the front of their jerseys. are those sewn on or are they completely new jerseys? also, are the jerseys worn in cold weather the same as the ones for warm weather? is there a heavier, more solid material or are they all the same?[/quote]

    Completely different jersey, made of thicker fabric.

    Brett Favre wore his Nike cold-wear jersey for at least one game after the Reebok contract took effect (it even had the five stripes and everything), because nobody thought to have a new one made.

  • Pete | December 2, 2007 at 4:10 pm |

    Braylon Edwards for the Browns has no socks on Paul, that has to get a picture on the ticker. Hope the fine is worth it…

  • spencer096 | December 2, 2007 at 4:10 pm |

    braylon edwards is not wearing any leggings, just socks and bare skin.

    odd…

  • Kevin | December 2, 2007 at 4:11 pm |

    Braylon Edwards is not wearing brown socks? He appears to just have white crew length socks on

  • jon | December 2, 2007 at 4:12 pm |

    beat me to the braylon comment, but what about the red on red? pretty awful in my book.

  • Stevo | December 2, 2007 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”180531″][quote comment=”180513″][quote comment=”180509″]I honestly don’t have a problem with logo creep. Sure, it can look sorta bad at times, but its how the world works, so deal with it.

    It’s only how the world works if the world tolerates it. It looks bad all the time, and should be resisted at all times.[/quote]
    Haha how do you plan on resisting it? I’m sorry, pouting on a message board won’t do much.

    Look, I love this site and come here everyday, I’m just saying that logo creep is one area where it gets taken way overboard.[/quote]

    But couldn’t you also say that a half-dozen ACC logos on one guy is a bit overboard?[/quote]

    If he had that many on his uni during the game, then yes, but he would’ve had only 2-3 visible at one time. If you’re looking at him from the front you’d only see the Championship patch, Pennant patch, and nose bumper. From the back you’d only see the Pennant decal on his helmet.

  • Joe D. | December 2, 2007 at 4:12 pm |

    Maybe it’s worth it for Edwards if it’s that hot in Phoenix. He looks like Vince Young from his Texas Longhorn days.

  • Greg V. | December 2, 2007 at 4:18 pm |

    I don’t think the Cardinals red on red looks bad. Monochrome looks good on some of the more modernized uniforms like Arizona, Cincinnati, and Atlanta for example. When classic teams like the Bears go with their navy on navy, that looks terrible.

    And Braylon Edwards looks rediculous.

  • Mike | December 2, 2007 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”180542″][quote comment=”180531″][quote comment=”180513″][quote comment=”180509″]I honestly don’t have a problem with logo creep. Sure, it can look sorta bad at times, but its how the world works, so deal with it.

    It’s only how the world works if the world tolerates it. It looks bad all the time, and should be resisted at all times.[/quote]
    Haha how do you plan on resisting it? I’m sorry, pouting on a message board won’t do much.

    Look, I love this site and come here everyday, I’m just saying that logo creep is one area where it gets taken way overboard.[/quote]

    But couldn’t you also say that a half-dozen ACC logos on one guy is a bit overboard?[/quote]

    If he had that many on his uni during the game, then yes, but he would’ve had only 2-3 visible at one time. If you’re looking at him from the front you’d only see the Championship patch, Pennant patch, and nose bumper. From the back you’d only see the Pennant decal on his helmet.[/quote]
    Exactly, it looks bad in that picture, but you’ll never see the jersey with the hat and t-shirt again, and rarely would see the hat and t-shirt together. So I don’t see the problem of having an ACC logo on a shirt that people are going to wear. I mean it is the ACC championship game…I figure you HAVE to put it on there, otherwise how can you tell what VT are champions of?

    And anyways, the ACC logo on the jersey is just a one game thing…commemorating the ACC championship game. Do we complain when the NFL logo is in a Super Bowl patch?

    The rest of the games this season VT would simply have had the helmet logo and maybe one more someplace else. I don’t really see what the problem is here, it’s just signifying what league a team is in. And since the league is putting so much into putting these games together, don’t you think they can get a little credit?

  • josh's twin | December 2, 2007 at 4:22 pm |

    Haha how do you plan on resisting it? I’m sorry, pouting on a message board won’t do much.
    I resist it by not buying their crap. Leagues, athletic conferences, universities et.al should let someting other than greed be their defining principle. Mostly through television, elite competitive sports generate more revenue for themselves now than any time in history, and still they need someone to spring for their gear? Not hardly. How is it that for most of the 20th century, with far less revenue at their disposal, college and professional sports teams managed build their own stadiums, outfit their teams, and colleges make sure their student/athletes graduated? Maybe because they had a higher purpose then besides profitability? That’s the worst part of logo creep; it’s a visual indicator that souls have been sold to the devil.

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 4:29 pm |

    i never thought i’d say this, because i like shiny things…

    but i LOVE the cards’ “flat” red monochromes

    and yes…there are a few teams who make the mono unitard look good, cards being one (maybe it’s the color)…others would include both the ravens and the jags all-blacks (some teams just can’t do the all black…jags/ravs can; bengals & falcons cant…just too damn busy with the stripes and shit)…jesters (all green) and titans (all DARK blue and POWDER blue) and bears look awful; broncs i could take or leave, but not a big fan really…same with teh seahawks..meh..i LIKED that rams today, but they need to keep that to once a season…i don’t think the eagles have done it this year, but their all green is pretty cool…

    a monochrome look i’d LOVE to see? get the G-MEN a gray jersey and lets see how that’d go

  • Robb | December 2, 2007 at 4:30 pm |

    Half dozen logos may be getting bad, but it is a business.
    I’ve seen worse on high school players – especially with the popularity of Under Armour. You can see the logo on the neck (long sleeve gold gear), gloves, sweat bands (arms and yes, legs too), socks and cleats, never mind half sleeves, hidden logos on warm gear, girdles, skull caps.

  • scott merzbach | December 2, 2007 at 4:32 pm |

    IIRC, the Buffalo Bills a year or two ago wore their retro jerseys in their game at Tampa, and only got to showcase them once in front of the home fans.

  • Bill | December 2, 2007 at 4:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”180540″]Braylon Edwards is not wearing brown socks? He appears to just have white crew length socks on[/quote]
    He is also wearing white shoes.

  • dm00n [Doug] | December 2, 2007 at 4:36 pm |

    With the memorial stickers, we’ll get a lot of nice helmet photos.

    Here is some nose strip scribbling.

  • Pete | December 2, 2007 at 4:38 pm |

    Edwards now appears to have his brown socks on, just short. I know that they were not there on the first drive.

  • =bg= | December 2, 2007 at 4:57 pm |

    Niners down the chute again (spared watching it as I thought it was a 1pm game HERE, not in NC. DOH.)

    So, I’m slumming by watching the Rayduz. Are the Broncos wearing that 21 sticker?

    I don’t see it.

  • Chuck Ryals | December 2, 2007 at 4:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”180494″]Not really uni-related, but the Redskins paid tribute to Sean Taylor by using the missing-man formation for the first defensive play – 10 men, no safety.

    I remember USC ran a similar play on an extra point in honor of their placekicker who died in the offseason last year, but first I’ve ever heard of someone doing that in a regular possession. I don’t know whether the Bills were in on it or not, or whether the play was even run.[/quote]

    apparently, the Bills did not give a care, as they ran a running play for 22 yards… no class….

  • =bg= | December 2, 2007 at 4:59 pm |

    Never mind, I see it. It’s so crowded back there on the Denver helmet, with the double number sticker, the flag, and the numbers..that the 21 is just about on the side of the helmet underneath the horse logo.

  • Glenn | December 2, 2007 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”180384″]Can we please stop the “first comment” posts before they really get started?[/quote]

    I didn’t make the post about Virginia/Virgina just so I could make a “first post” comment, but I also didn’t realize that such “first post” comments were frowned upon so much here. Trust me, I also already got the lecture from my wife about how much its not liked here. It will not happen again. :)

  • dm00n [Doug] | December 2, 2007 at 5:01 pm |

    More Taylor memorial stickers:

    Westbrook
    Ginn
    Dilfer
    Adrian Peterson (Chicago).

  • Whizzenator | December 2, 2007 at 5:03 pm |

    Hawaii’s strength of schedule: 119 (out of 119)
    OSU: 75

    Not sure how you could put a team in the championship with Hawaii’s strength of schedule.

  • Mike | December 2, 2007 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”180548″]Haha how do you plan on resisting it? I’m sorry, pouting on a message board won’t do much.
    I resist it by not buying their crap. Leagues, athletic conferences, universities et.al should let someting other than greed be their defining principle. Mostly through television, elite competitive sports generate more revenue for themselves now than any time in history, and still they need someone to spring for their gear? Not hardly. How is it that for most of the 20th century, with far less revenue at their disposal, college and professional sports teams managed build their own stadiums, outfit their teams, and colleges make sure their student/athletes graduated? Maybe because they had a higher purpose then besides profitability? That’s the worst part of logo creep; it’s a visual indicator that souls have been sold to the devil.[/quote]
    Huh? Yeah, profits are much more then they used to be through college sports, but how is that a bad thing? You make it sound like the money they’re getting is a bad thing…that it’s hurting the school. Sure, maybe they’re not allocating the money well (they could put more of the money towards education), but I don’t see how making money HURTS a university, as long as the money is used correctly.

  • =bg= | December 2, 2007 at 5:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”180574″]More Taylor memorial stickers:

    Westbrook
    Ginn
    Dilfer
    Adrian Peterson (Chicago).[/quote]

    Wow, a photo where Dilfer isn’t flat on his back.
    Must be a pre-game shot.

  • C.N. | December 2, 2007 at 5:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”180570″][quote comment=”180494″]Not really uni-related, but the Redskins paid tribute to Sean Taylor by using the missing-man formation for the first defensive play – 10 men, no safety.

    I remember USC ran a similar play on an extra point in honor of their placekicker who died in the offseason last year, but first I’ve ever heard of someone doing that in a regular possession. I don’t know whether the Bills were in on it or not, or whether the play was even run.[/quote]

    apparently, the Bills did not give a care, as they ran a running play for 22 yards… no class….[/quote]

    Actually, Joe Gibbs and Dick Jauron had a gentleman’s agreement where the Redskins would only field ten defenders for one play, and the Bills would simply run the ball into the line. That wasn’t a lack of class. What, was the running back supposed to just fall down?

  • TO | December 2, 2007 at 5:35 pm |

    Watching the Bears/Giants game

    Hester has one helmet decal going the wrong way and Mark Anderson has a broken helmet decal

    BEAR DOWN!!

  • Joseph | December 2, 2007 at 5:39 pm |

    Oregon’s uni’s yesterday looked stunningly like their band. Yellow hat, yellow top w/green sleeves, green pants

  • Orange and Blue | December 2, 2007 at 5:41 pm |

    In the post-game press briefing, Washington Redskins Coach Joe Gibbs said he did not call for only 10 men to take the field in the first defensive series. Gregg Williams may later try to say something different, but it sounds like it was not a tribute at all, but simply a screw-up.

  • ThresherK | December 2, 2007 at 5:47 pm |

    @LI Phil: [Monochromes which] look good…the Jags all-blacks.

    I don’t care for them simply because teal is Jax’s main color. In the alternate black-over-black there isn’t any except a stray pinstripe somewhere. If they wish to change it officially to black, then I’d reconsider.

    But that teal tongue on the helmet? Cool, like a cat who got into the blue raspberry ice pops.

  • John in Athens | December 2, 2007 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”180591″]In the post-game press briefing, Washington Redskins Coach Joe Gibbs said he did not call for only 10 men to take the field in the first defensive series. Gregg Williams may later try to say something different, but it sounds like it was not a tribute at all, but simply a screw-up.[/quote]

    You don’t really believe that, do you?

  • dennis | December 2, 2007 at 5:50 pm |

    The Redskins handed out towels to every fan in attendance that featured striped at the bottom:

    http://assets.espn.g...

  • Orange and Blue | December 2, 2007 at 5:53 pm |

    “You don’t really believe that, do you?”

    Why wouldn’t I believe it? It comes straight for the head coach’s mouth.

  • Joey Guns | December 2, 2007 at 5:57 pm |

    The NY Post goofed today. Here’s their pic of Johan Santana:

    http://www.nypost.co...

  • Orange and Blue | December 2, 2007 at 5:57 pm |

    More on Joe Gibbs not having a clue about what is going on with his own team (or Gregg Williams concocting a story to cover a screw up):
    “Gibbs said after the game he did not speak with Gregg Williams about the decision to use 10 men at the start of the game. But Williams and Gibbs met in the coach’s dressing room for about 7 minutes after the game, and Williams said he explained the decision to Gibbs after the game.

    Gibbs told us he did not have a problem with Williams doing it – though you got the strong impression he would have preferred to have known before hand.”
    Source: Washington Post

  • Nick | December 2, 2007 at 6:04 pm |

    Texas A&M is wearing their black alternates against Arizona on FSN.

  • Benjamin | December 2, 2007 at 6:04 pm |

    The Broncos are running out of room on their helmets. They have the Bronco decal, the stripes down the middle, the American flag, the player’s numbers, the Sean Taylor memorial, and the memorial sticker for the two players that died in the off-season. I hope no one else dies.

  • tim | December 2, 2007 at 6:09 pm |

    The best team does not mean the highest ranked team. Oklahoma, Georgia, USC, LSU are the best four teams. period

  • John in Athens | December 2, 2007 at 6:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”180596″]“You don’t really believe that, do you?”

    Why wouldn’t I believe it? It comes straight for the head coach’s mouth.[/quote]

    Because the stadium was filled with #21s which just happened to be the number of the player who played the position that wasn’t filled.

    Just a screw up?

    The coach may not have known what was going to happen, but he knew what was going to happen.

    It was a great way to honor a fallen teammate. To call it a “screw up” is incredibly disrespectful.

  • dannyb | December 2, 2007 at 6:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”180396″][quote comment=”180392″]OSU played nobody, and lost a game, are getting the bid?[/quote]

    they didn’t play nobody, they played michigan

    oh…wait[/quote]

    11-1, from a BCS conference. OK, fine.. OSU vs. Kansas, best two BCS records, does that sound better?

    Nahh, looks like they’re putting LSU in the game (based on polls) over the team (Oklahoma) who beat a school twice that at one point was ranked #1. LSU lost the #1 ranking twice. Makes a hell of a lot of sense.

    Crap, not uni-related.. uh.. uh… ok, yeah, so here’s to hoping LSU doesn’t bust out the gawdawful Katrina jerseys again. As a nice touch though, I’d like to see OSU go with white (if that’s option) versus LSU, if for nothing more than OSU wore white the last time they won a title and LSU’s purple is (sorry Paul) pretty sweet looking.

  • Micah | December 2, 2007 at 6:20 pm |

    Johnny O,

    Good looking out man; thanks!!

  • dannyb | December 2, 2007 at 6:20 pm |

    damn, reading my last post makes me more mad.. LSU beats a mid-ranked team by a touchdown.

    Oklahoma beats #1 like a rag doll.

    LSU to #2? Hooray Beer!

  • elliott | December 2, 2007 at 6:22 pm |

    Even I knew that they were going 10-man and I don’t even support them.

    Bit low on Bills to run it hard though. According to game tracker thing, the RB went out of bounds so didn’t just run into the line.

    Oh, and just a quick debate… Best jersey (not uniform) in the NFL? I’m going Cardinals road jersey. Classy stuff

  • James Craven | December 2, 2007 at 6:23 pm |

    BTW, Ravens will be in their Harry High School all-black ensamble tomorrow.

    Pats can name a score if they so choose.

  • Frankie | December 2, 2007 at 6:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”180586″][quote comment=”180570″][quote comment=”180494″]Not really uni-related, but the Redskins paid tribute to Sean Taylor by using the missing-man formation for the first defensive play – 10 men, no safety.

    I remember USC ran a similar play on an extra point in honor of their placekicker who died in the offseason last year, but first I’ve ever heard of someone doing that in a regular possession. I don’t know whether the Bills were in on it or not, or whether the play was even run.[/quote]

    apparently, the Bills did not give a care, as they ran a running play for 22 yards… no class….[/quote]

    Actually, Joe Gibbs and Dick Jauron had a gentleman’s agreement where the Redskins would only field ten defenders for one play, and the Bills would simply run the ball into the line. That wasn’t a lack of class. What, was the running back supposed to just fall down?[/quote]

    Exactly! No class would have been to throw a deep pass right to where Taylor would have been.

  • Stuby | December 2, 2007 at 6:31 pm |

    Just compare the sleeve stripes on Vinnie’s jersey (the way they should be) and Jeff King’s (a shrunken version). King’s look like little epaulettes or something.

  • Stuby | December 2, 2007 at 6:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”180615″]Even I knew that they were going 10-man and I don’t even support them.

    Bit low on Bills to run it hard though. According to game tracker thing, the RB went out of bounds so didn’t just run into the line.

    Oh, and just a quick debate… Best jersey (not uniform) in the NFL? I’m going Cardinals road jersey. Classy stuff[/quote]
    ewww. Really?

  • KW | December 2, 2007 at 6:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”180531″][quote comment=”180513″][quote comment=”180509″]I honestly don’t have a problem with logo creep. Sure, it can look sorta bad at times, but its how the world works, so deal with it.

    It’s only how the world works if the world tolerates it. It looks bad all the time, and should be resisted at all times.[/quote]
    Haha how do you plan on resisting it? I’m sorry, pouting on a message board won’t do much.

    Look, I love this site and come here everyday, I’m just saying that logo creep is one area where it gets taken way overboard.[/quote]

    But couldn’t you also say that a half-dozen ACC logos on one guy is a bit overboard?[/quote]
    And couldn’t you also say that four “Google” logos on one website page is a bit much?

  • Evan | December 2, 2007 at 6:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”180598″]The NY Post goofed today.

    Here’s their pic of Johan Santana:

    http://www.nypost.co...
    lol thats funny

  • dannyb | December 2, 2007 at 6:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”180463″]Ohio State lost there second to last game….[/quote]
    [quote}
    So what, LSU lost two of them?

  • KW | December 2, 2007 at 6:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”180548″]Haha how do you plan on resisting it? I’m sorry, pouting on a message board won’t do much.
    I resist it by not buying their crap. Leagues, athletic conferences, universities et.al should let someting other than greed be their defining principle. Mostly through television, elite competitive sports generate more revenue for themselves now than any time in history, and still they need someone to spring for their gear? Not hardly. How is it that for most of the 20th century, with far less revenue at their disposal, college and professional sports teams managed build their own stadiums, outfit their teams, and colleges make sure their student/athletes graduated? Maybe because they had a higher purpose then besides profitability? That’s the worst part of logo creep; it’s a visual indicator that souls have been sold to the devil.[/quote]
    WOW…”souls have been sold to the devil”…if you think that this is true then I am sorry. Instead of Nike/Reebok/Insert Brand Here giving money and equipment to the schools to not only support the particular team but also the rest of the athletic department and school as a whole you would rather cut a larger check to your alumni association so that non-revenue sports can succeed as well?

  • Bennett | December 2, 2007 at 6:55 pm |

    No pic, but Urlacher is missing the top half of his left helmet decal

  • Robb | December 2, 2007 at 6:58 pm |

    Anybody know if the Rams have ever gone out with white over the navy pants they wore today?

  • Stevo | December 2, 2007 at 7:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”180626″]
    WOW…”souls have been sold to the devil”…if you think that this is true then I am sorry. Instead of Nike/Reebok/Insert Brand Here giving money and equipment to the schools to not only support the particular team but also the rest of the athletic department and school as a whole you would rather cut a larger check to your alumni association so that non-revenue sports can succeed as well?[/quote]

    Didn’t you get the memo? All non-revenue sports have officially been discontinued across the NCAA. If you don’t get at least 5 of your competitions on ESPN or network TV, your sport is being “contracted” with your equipment being sold at auction to fund another weight room for the football squad’s scout team.[/sarcasm]

  • SWW | December 2, 2007 at 7:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”180626″]WOW…”souls have been sold to the devil”…if you think that this is true then I am sorry. Instead of Nike/Reebok/Insert Brand Here giving money and equipment to the schools to not only support the particular team but also the rest of the athletic department and school as a whole you would rather cut a larger check to your alumni association so that non-revenue sports can succeed as well?[/quote]

    Non-revenue sports are often the most interesting to watch. I know that not everyone is a fan of the non-revenue sports, but every sport was non-revenue at one point.

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 7:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”180590″]Oregon’s uni’s yesterday looked stunningly like their band. Yellow hat, yellow top w/green sleeves, green pants[/quote]

    dude…that WAS the band

  • KW | December 2, 2007 at 7:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”180633″][quote comment=”180626″]WOW…”souls have been sold to the devil”…if you think that this is true then I am sorry. Instead of Nike/Reebok/Insert Brand Here giving money and equipment to the schools to not only support the particular team but also the rest of the athletic department and school as a whole you would rather cut a larger check to your alumni association so that non-revenue sports can succeed as well?[/quote]

    Non-revenue sports are often the most interesting to watch. I know that not everyone is a fan of the non-revenue sports, but every sport was non-revenue at one point.[/quote]
    I completely agree…like I said earlier it just gets tiresome coming on here and listening about logo creep. Would be like me coming on here everyday and complaining about the Google ads…no I understand why they are there and accept that fact.
    Why not complain that some players sign independent deals with companies like Schutt to wear their helmets rather then the Riddell ones that are provided to the league?
    It may be just a sport or pastime to some, but it is big business to many. All of youw ho complain about the logo creep should look yourselves in the mirror and ask yourself if you or the company you work for do anything similar…would be surprised if you dont.

  • Mike | December 2, 2007 at 7:22 pm |

    All in all, people just are complaining and being hypocritical about the whole logo creep issue. Can it be unsightly at times? Sure. But people that complain about it constantly just can’t seem to grasp that logo and product placement is what keeps the world funded today. If “logo creep” was done away with schools athletic programs would be severely damaged. A school is not going to give huge amounts of money to its athletic program to get new uniforms, weight rooms, the like, because the schools bigger priority is making sure academics are funded. Sponsorships are the way athletic programs are able to keep functioning the way we like them.

    And OF COURSE a sponsor is going to want their logo displayed. Otherwise, what would be the point of them sponsoring? I just find it ridiculous that people would complain about a tiny little logo even though its that tiny little logo that is keeping the sports that we love running and well founded.

    Either the people on this blog just don’t realize that, or truly believe that the aesthetics of a uniform are more important then the actual game. And if its that latter…then the people on this blog really need to get their priorities straight.

  • C.N. | December 2, 2007 at 7:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”180611″][quote comment=”180396″][quote comment=”180392″]OSU played nobody, and lost a game, are getting the bid?[/quote]

    they didn’t play nobody, they played michigan

    oh…wait[/quote]

    11-1, from a BCS conference. OK, fine.. OSU vs. Kansas, best two BCS records, does that sound better?

    Nahh, looks like they’re putting LSU in the game (based on polls) over the team (Oklahoma) who beat a school twice that at one point was ranked #1. LSU lost the #1 ranking twice. Makes a hell of a lot of sense.

    Crap, not uni-related.. uh.. uh… ok, yeah, so here’s to hoping LSU doesn’t bust out the gawdawful Katrina jerseys again. As a nice touch though, I’d like to see OSU go with white (if that’s option) versus LSU, if for nothing more than OSU wore white the last time they won a title and LSU’s purple is (sorry Paul) pretty sweet looking.[/quote]

    Well, the Buckeyes got beaten like a drum the last time they wore white in the nat’l title game, so maybe Tressel will think twice about that.

    He chose to wear white last year, when OSU had the choice, because of their prior history of success in the BCS with white unis.

  • Jordan | December 2, 2007 at 7:27 pm |

    Lovey Smith appears to be wearing a retro-RBK jacket complete with a “pump” on his left breast.

  • Stevo | December 2, 2007 at 7:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”180633″][quote comment=”180626″]WOW…”souls have been sold to the devil”…if you think that this is true then I am sorry. Instead of Nike/Reebok/Insert Brand Here giving money and equipment to the schools to not only support the particular team but also the rest of the athletic department and school as a whole you would rather cut a larger check to your alumni association so that non-revenue sports can succeed as well?[/quote]

    Non-revenue sports are often the most interesting to watch. I know that not everyone is a fan of the non-revenue sports, but every sport was non-revenue at one point.[/quote]

    I can tell you this much, the fans on the non-football/basketball sports (I say it that way cause some of them are good revenue streams for the schools) are the most dedicated, passionate, and knowledgeable fans I have ever seen.

  • dannyb | December 2, 2007 at 7:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”180639″][quote comment=”180611″][quote comment=”180396″][quote comment=”180392″]OSU played nobody, and lost a game, are getting the bid?[/quote]

    they didn’t play nobody, they played michigan

    oh…wait[/quote]

    11-1, from a BCS conference. OK, fine.. OSU vs. Kansas, best two BCS records, does that sound better?

    Nahh, looks like they’re putting LSU in the game (based on polls) over the team (Oklahoma) who beat a school twice that at one point was ranked #1. LSU lost the #1 ranking twice. Makes a hell of a lot of sense.

    Crap, not uni-related.. uh.. uh… ok, yeah, so here’s to hoping LSU doesn’t bust out the gawdawful Katrina jerseys again. As a nice touch though, I’d like to see OSU go with white (if that’s option) versus LSU, if for nothing more than OSU wore white the last time they won a title and LSU’s purple is (sorry Paul) pretty sweet looking.[/quote]

    Well, the Buckeyes got beaten like a drum the last time they wore white in the nat’l title game, so maybe Tressel will think twice about that.

    He chose to wear white last year, when OSU had the choice, because of their prior history of success in the BCS with white unis.[/quote]

    Good point.

    I still think OSU looks classy in white, and LSU’s purple is rarely seen. It would make it a more attractive game.

  • dannyb | December 2, 2007 at 7:41 pm |

    officials in KC today also just skated with the 81-82 Flyers… I mean, wore the ugly slacks.

  • Stevo | December 2, 2007 at 7:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”180649″]officials in KC today also just skated with the 81-82 Flyers… I mean, wore the ugly slacks.[/quote]

    Temperature hovered barely above freezing across most of the Midwest, so of course the officials are going to be wearing their cold weather gear.

    Speaking of officials, something interesting happened yesterday during the D III game between Bethel College and Central College. The weather went from sleet to ice to a pouring rain, and the game was delayed an hour and a half. On top of this, the second half was delayed so that the officials could change into dry clothing. I never did hear if they had brought spares or if they had to haul the gear to the big dryers, but since it is D III football, I’d say it was the latter.

  • Michael T | December 2, 2007 at 7:56 pm |

    Apropos of 11/26/07 note about the size of the ‘c’ for Willie McGinest and Brandon McDonald, I noticed in the Raider game that Josh McCown’s name has a small cap ‘c’ while OL Paul McQuistan’s name had a superscript ‘c’. Can’t find pictures at the moment but I’ll see if I can dig some up.

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 8:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”180347″]I bet Hawaii will play in the Sugar Bowl.[/quote]

    GREAT call C.N.

  • BigMatt | December 2, 2007 at 8:13 pm |

    Really gets tiring to come on here and all you read is logo-creep this and logo-creep that…if you are a huge Michigan fan and dont want to see a companies logo then open up your wallet and write a check for what the suppliers are writing it for.
    Thats like saying that I really hate when companies talk about their products during the commercials of a game.
    There is a service they are paying for and that is promotions…
    As far as all of the bashing on some of the uniforms that Nike and others have come out with keep in mind that they are made to appeal to an 15-25 year old NOT some 40 year old who last saw a competitive field in High School…trust me if the kids who had to wear them didnt like them they would get changed over time[/quote]
    AMEN!!

  • Jeff I. | December 2, 2007 at 8:29 pm |

    Patriots helmets will also feature double memorial decals with #21 and #91 (Marquise Hill)

  • dannyb | December 2, 2007 at 9:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”180679″][quote comment=”180667″]Massachusetts held their HS Football Superbowls yesterday, ton of good uni pics

    Some highlights:

    Eastie(East Boston) wearing the NY Jets old style helmet logo

    Dig these Medfield helmets. Think it’s based on Miami of Ohio.

    Swampscott with the winged helmets ala Princeton/Michigan/Delaware

    Love the Everett unis and modded 49ers helmet[/quote]

    Couldn’t quite tell, but it looks like maybe they were making those kids use the NFL sized goalposts…[/quote]

    And, for that matter, no high school hashmarks on the field either… what a boner, you get to the big game and then you have to play with a field not uniform with what you played on to get there…

  • Jeff I. | December 2, 2007 at 9:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”180679″][quote comment=”180667″]Massachusetts held their HS Football Superbowls yesterday, ton of good uni pics

    Some highlights:

    Eastie(East Boston) wearing the NY Jets old style helmet logo

    Dig these Medfield helmets. Think it’s based on Miami of Ohio.

    Swampscott with the winged helmets ala Princeton/Michigan/Delaware

    Love the Everett unis and modded 49ers helmet[/quote]

    Couldn’t quite tell, but it looks like maybe they were making those kids use the NFL sized goalposts…[/quote]
    It was at Gillette Stadium, and it looks like they used the same posts the Pats use

  • dannyb | December 2, 2007 at 9:06 pm |

    [quote]
    It was at Gillette Stadium, and it looks like they used the same posts the Pats use[/quote]

    forgot the link

  • Jeff I. | December 2, 2007 at 9:06 pm |
  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 9:11 pm |

    they building an ark in pitty?

    at least the field seems in better shape than last monday

    the bengays are wearing their most aesthetically pleasing uni…which is sad…and of course, as was pointed out earlier, not all players have their pant stripes facing the same direction…sigh

    /anyone else kinda sick of seein the steelers?

  • Matt | December 2, 2007 at 9:17 pm |

    Mark Richt just said Georgia was going to wear the black jerseys and try to black out the dome in the Sugar Bowl.

  • CollinJ | December 2, 2007 at 9:17 pm |

    Georgia will wear black in the sugar bowl…according to their coach

  • Will | December 2, 2007 at 9:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”180667″]Massachusetts held their HS Football Superbowls yesterday, ton of good uni pics

    Some highlights:

    Eastie(East Boston) wearing the NY Jets old style helmet logo

    Dig these Medfield helmets. Think it’s based on Miami of Ohio.

    Swampscott with the winged helmets ala Princeton/Michigan/Delaware

    Love the Everett unis and modded 49ers helmet[/quote]

    Is it just me or did the stands look some what empty considering that it was the state championship. Mabye i’m just used to the 40,000 people that show up at the Texas state championships.

  • Stevo | December 2, 2007 at 9:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”180682″][quote comment=”180679″][quote comment=”180667″]Massachusetts held their HS Football Superbowls yesterday, ton of good uni pics

    Some highlights:

    Eastie(East Boston) wearing the NY Jets old style helmet logo

    Dig these Medfield helmets. Think it’s based on Miami of Ohio.

    Swampscott with the winged helmets ala Princeton/Michigan/Delaware

    Love the Everett unis and modded 49ers helmet[/quote]

    Couldn’t quite tell, but it looks like maybe they were making those kids use the NFL sized goalposts…[/quote]

    And, for that matter, no high school hashmarks on the field either… what a boner, you get to the big game and then you have to play with a field not uniform with what you played on to get there…[/quote]

    According to the MIAA website, they play by NCAA rules, meaning that the NFL goalposts are the correct goalposts.

  • TD | December 2, 2007 at 9:41 pm |

    The Colorado 4A and 5A title games at Invesco Field used the NFL goalposts as well.

    For those who wonder why this matters, regulation high school goalposts are 23′ 4″ wide, where NFL and college posts are 18′ 6″ wide.

    High school hash marks are 53′ 4″ wide, college hash marks are 40′ wide (60′ in from each sideline) and the pros line the hashmarks up with the goalposts, 18′ 6″ wide at the inside of the mark.

  • Jeff I. | December 2, 2007 at 9:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”180694″][quote comment=”180667″]Massachusetts held their HS Football Superbowls yesterday, ton of good uni pics

    Some highlights:

    Eastie(East Boston) wearing the NY Jets old style helmet logo

    Dig these Medfield helmets. Think it’s based on Miami of Ohio.

    Swampscott with the winged helmets ala Princeton/Michigan/Delaware

    Love the Everett unis and modded 49ers helmet[/quote]

    Is it just me or did the stands look some what empty considering that it was the state championship. Mabye i’m just used to the 40,000 people that show up at the Texas state championships.[/quote]
    Haha, as a Bostonian who vacations in Austin (I only go to places that rhyme) I can tell you that HS Football in Mass. is a drop in the bucket compared to TX HS Football.

    No one, aside from friends and families and town members really cared about yesterday’s Superbowls.

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 9:53 pm |

    [quote]No one, aside from friends and families and town members really cared about yesterday’s Superbowls[/quote]

    so that would be everybody then?

  • Stevo | December 2, 2007 at 10:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”180704″]The Colorado 4A and 5A title games at Invesco Field used the NFL goalposts as well.

    For those who wonder why this matters, regulation high school goalposts are 23′ 4″ wide, where NFL and college posts are 18′ 6″ wide.

    High school hash marks are 53′ 4″ wide, college hash marks are 40′ wide (60′ in from each sideline) and the pros line the hashmarks up with the goalposts, 18′ 6″ wide at the inside of the mark.[/quote]

    What do you mean by “regulation”? The NFHS sets standards, but each state association can use whatever rules they want. Thry can take NFHS rules, modify them, or go with something completely different.

  • Jeff I. | December 2, 2007 at 10:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”180708″][quote]No one, aside from friends and families and town members really cared about yesterday’s Superbowls[/quote]

    so that would be everybody then?[/quote]
    Argh, should’ve read “few” town members.

  • Thorold Blair | December 2, 2007 at 10:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”180570″][quote comment=”180494″]Not really uni-related, but the Redskins paid tribute to Sean Taylor by using the missing-man formation for the first defensive play – 10 men, no safety.

    I remember USC ran a similar play on an extra point in honor of their placekicker who died in the offseason last year, but first I’ve ever heard of someone doing that in a regular possession. I don’t know whether the Bills were in on it or not, or whether the play was even run.[/quote]

    apparently, the Bills did not give a care, as they ran a running play for 22 yards… no class….[/quote]
    Seriously.. dont speak anymore. What did you want them to do, kneel on the ball?

    Amazing tribute by the skins, but it’s still a football game and they chose to play a man down.. the other 10 still could’ve made the tackle sooner

  • DCM | December 2, 2007 at 10:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”180482″][quote comment=”180459″]Sorry to beat the dead horse…some of us weren’t around yesterday. Did anyone mention how every team in a big game that took a ‘fashion risk’ lost? Monochromanic Tennessee, West Virginia, and Missouri.

    And I agree that UCLA had screwed up their classic look.

    As for the BCS, this is the 7th of 10 years that it’s been messed up. Many teams have arguments, but to openly lobby to be included is poor form. Georgia has said little, it was the BCS that put them at four. For the number 4 team not to be in the title game after 1 and 2 lose shows there’s a flawed system (I do understand a wiining team could skip over them, but a main reason LSU won was because Aigne had a bad 4th quarter – probably the uni!).[/quote]

    if all-black, all-yellow, and all-orange is a “fashion risk,” then why isn’t ok’s all-white?

    don’t be so racist

    yesterday’s best uni’s: hawai’i!!!!!

    yesterday’s best looking games: az-state, oregon-osu[/quote]

    All white is great, a classic look. Probably helped Oklahoma and Hawaii win. Boston College should’ve stuck to the gold pants, though I like the white ones.

  • Orange and Blue | December 2, 2007 at 10:38 pm |

    This idea that the Bills knew about the 10-man (supposed) tribute before-hand is nonsense.

    1) Joe Gibbs already said that even he did not know about or approve of the supposed tribute before-hand.

    2) Defensive coach Gregg Williams said after the game that the Bills had no foreknowledge of the 10-man formation:

    “Williams told [his players]of his decision to do just that during their defensive meeting Saturday night at the team hotel. They were unanimous in supporting the move. Williams kept safety LaRon Landry very deep “minimizing the big play,” and did not tell the Bills staff about his decision before hand.”
    — Washington Post

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 10:39 pm |

    didn’t hawaii have on grey/silver pants?

  • dm00n [Doug] | December 2, 2007 at 10:44 pm |

    Here is Braylon Edwards first half shoes and socks.

    He switched to black shoes (and I think more normal socks) in the second half, like the rest of the Browns. (No pictures of the second half shoes yet).

  • dm00n [Doug] | December 2, 2007 at 10:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”180726″]This idea that the Bills knew about the 10-man (supposed) tribute before-hand is nonsense.[/quote]

    Seems weird, since someone commented here a couple days ago that the ‘Skins would start in a missing man defense and the Bills would run on that play.

  • DCM | December 2, 2007 at 10:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”180505″][quote comment=”180497″][quote comment=”180484″][quote comment=”180426]

    As far as all of the bashing on some of the uniforms that Nike and others have come out with keep in mind that they are made to appeal to an 15-25 year old NOT some 40 year old who last saw a competitive field in High School…trust me if the kids who had to wear them didnt like them they would get changed over time[/quote]

    Obviously most BCS teams don’t have to stoop to letting Nike downgrade their uniforms to attract top athletes…Ohio State, LSU, USC, Georgia, & Oklahoma, as well as Tennessee, UCLA, Texas, Penn State, Michigan, Nebraska, etc. These teams probably don’t want any 18-year old to represent them if the most important thing is a Nike-ugly uni with miss-matched sleeves.

    Georgia is not going to need black jerseys to beat Hawaii, but the sight of 70,000 UGA fans wearing black in the Superdome should be a sight to behold.

    So you’re saying 40 year-olds can’t have an opinion on this blog? Want to take it outside?

  • TD | December 2, 2007 at 10:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”180716″][quote comment=”180704″]The Colorado 4A and 5A title games at Invesco Field used the NFL goalposts as well.

    For those who wonder why this matters, regulation high school goalposts are 23′ 4″ wide, where NFL and college posts are 18′ 6″ wide.

    High school hash marks are 53′ 4″ wide, college hash marks are 40′ wide (60′ in from each sideline) and the pros line the hashmarks up with the goalposts, 18′ 6″ wide at the inside of the mark.[/quote]

    What do you mean by “regulation”? The NFHS sets standards, but each state association can use whatever rules they want. Thry can take NFHS rules, modify them, or go with something completely different.[/quote]

    By regulations, I mean standards. Because they’re, like, synonyms.

    The point of the post (and previous ones on the topic) was that the various high school leagues were obviously granting exceptions (meaning deviations from the standard) to allow NFL goalposts instead of dropping several large on high school spec posts that would mount in the NFL single post hole.

    If there wasn’t a regulation/standard size I wouldn’t be able to mention what it is.

  • dm00n [Doug] | December 2, 2007 at 10:59 pm |

    A couple more Taylor memorial sticker shots (which give a nice view of the helmets and sometimes jersey details, like the nameplates):

    Copeland Bryan. The Bills put the NFL logo, the Taylor tribute, the American Flag and the warning decal all on part of their team helmet logo.
    Clifton Ryan. The Rams put the warning decal on the center ridge of the helmet (where a lot of teams would have a stripe). I haven’t noticed that before.
    Seahawks. The memorial sticker moves the NFL logo to the side of the helmet for some reason.
    Greg Warren. The Steelers blank rear bumper.

    Also, The ‘Skins memorial patch was the same as the helmet decal.

  • dm00n [Doug] | December 2, 2007 at 11:03 pm |

    This looks like some Chicago Bears custom tailoring. Tommie Harris has a bunch of weird shoulder seams that do not appear on some other Chicago jerseys.

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 11:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”180730″][quote comment=”180726″]This idea that the Bills knew about the 10-man (supposed) tribute before-hand is nonsense.[/quote]

    Seems weird, since someone commented here a couple days ago that the ‘Skins would start in a missing man defense and the Bills would run on that play.[/quote]

    hell yea! joey guns posted this wednesday morning:

    [quote]#3 by Joey Guns on 11.28.07 9:20 am |

    One more note on the Sean Taylor tribute……

    Sources in Washington have said that coach Joe Gibbs and the Buffalo Bills have been working on a “gentleman’s agreement” that would allow the Redskins to honor their fallen teammate on the first play of the game.

    From what I understand, Washington would line up with 10 defensive players, minus the free safety, and the Bills would simply run the ball.

    Again, this rumor is unconfirmed as of yet. [/quote]

    /*note to self* never fuck with joey guns

  • Stevo | December 2, 2007 at 11:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”180734″][quote comment=”180716″][quote comment=”180704″]The Colorado 4A and 5A title games at Invesco Field used the NFL goalposts as well.

    For those who wonder why this matters, regulation high school goalposts are 23′ 4″ wide, where NFL and college posts are 18′ 6″ wide.

    High school hash marks are 53′ 4″ wide, college hash marks are 40′ wide (60′ in from each sideline) and the pros line the hashmarks up with the goalposts, 18′ 6″ wide at the inside of the mark.[/quote]

    What do you mean by “regulation”? The NFHS sets standards, but each state association can use whatever rules they want. Thry can take NFHS rules, modify them, or go with something completely different.[/quote]

    By regulations, I mean standards. Because they’re, like, synonyms.

    The point of the post (and previous ones on the topic) was that the various high school leagues were obviously granting exceptions (meaning deviations from the standard) to allow NFL goalposts instead of dropping several large on high school spec posts that would mount in the NFL single post hole.

    If there wasn’t a regulation/standard size I wouldn’t be able to mention what it is.[/quote]

    As I said in a previous post, the MIAA uses NCAA rules, which means the NFL posts are standard for Mass. football. Here in Iowa we go with NFHS, so the UNI-Dome has expandable goalposts. I would think that a place like Invesco, which is intended to be the center of all football for the state of Colorado, would have the wider posts somewhere so they could be prepared for the state championships.

  • LI Phil | December 2, 2007 at 11:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”180726″]1) Joe Gibbs already said that even he did not know about or approve of the supposed tribute before-hand.

    2) Defensive coach Gregg Williams said after the game that the Bills had no foreknowledge of the 10-man formation[/quote]

    gregg williams obviously doesn’t read uniwatch

  • Joey Guns | December 2, 2007 at 11:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”180742″][quote comment=”180730″][quote comment=”180726″]This idea that the Bills knew about the 10-man (supposed) tribute before-hand is nonsense.[/quote]

    Seems weird, since someone commented here a couple days ago that the ‘Skins would start in a missing man defense and the Bills would run on that play.[/quote]

    hell yea! joey guns posted this wednesday morning:

    [quote]#3 by Joey Guns on 11.28.07 9:20 am |

    One more note on the Sean Taylor tribute……

    Sources in Washington have said that coach Joe Gibbs and the Buffalo Bills have been working on a “gentleman’s agreement” that would allow the Redskins to honor their fallen teammate on the first play of the game.

    From what I understand, Washington would line up with 10 defensive players, minus the free safety, and the Bills would simply run the ball.

    Again, this rumor is unconfirmed as of yet. [/quote]

    /*note to self* never fuck with joey guns[/quote]

    haha, thanks!

    I’m totally shocked that Joe Gibbs had no clue about the 10 man only tribute!

  • Jason | December 2, 2007 at 11:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”180570″][quote comment=”180494″]Not really uni-related, but the Redskins paid tribute to Sean Taylor by using the missing-man formation for the first defensive play – 10 men, no safety.

    I remember USC ran a similar play on an extra point in honor of their placekicker who died in the offseason last year, but first I’ve ever heard of someone doing that in a regular possession. I don’t know whether the Bills were in on it or not, or whether the play was even run.[/quote]

    apparently, the Bills did not give a care, as they ran a running play for 22 yards… no class….[/quote]

    Did you watch the game? I assume not.

    The Bills ran a simple counter off-tackle. The RB (Jackson) was not touched by a DL or LB and broke it out up the sideline. Apparently, the Bills have no class because the Redskins D-Line and LB’s were effectively neutralized on the play. The FS would not have helped on that play. It’s not like they THREW the ball.

    Did you want them to kneel it on that first play then? The Redskins didn’t kneel it on their first play, so why should the Bills?

    I love when people make comments about things they more than likely didn’t even witness….

  • Gregory | December 2, 2007 at 11:47 pm |

    Someoen posted a link to a pic that I was going to post that shows a Bills player with 3 chin straps on either side. Copeland Bryan I think is his name.

    Picture here

    I know the picture doesnt show it well, but early in the game he was called for a penalty and they showed him on the sidelines. He turned and you could see that he had 3 on each side.

    I’ve seen 1, I’ve seen 2, but never 3 snaps. Weird….

  • RJK | December 2, 2007 at 11:49 pm |

    GW’s uniforms weren’t gold–their school colors are BUFF and blue. And, while it’s the first time they’ve worn their new buff jerseys this year, the jersey is not a new look.

  • Stevo | December 2, 2007 at 11:53 pm |

    Three things about this photo from last week’s Iowa Energy D-League home debut:

    1) Now we know where all those synthetic balls went to after the NBA went back to natural.

    2) The Albuquerque player just about vanishes into the floor paint.

    3) You can tell that it’s a high school/college court adapted to pro ball, instead of the other way around.

  • Brien | December 2, 2007 at 11:56 pm |

    Completely unrelated to anything tonight, but in searching for something completely different I came across this logo for the ’93 Rockies/Marlins expansion draft. Check out that teal/purple MLB logo…really says something about 1993.

  • Dan | December 3, 2007 at 12:33 am |

    [quote comment=”180768″]Completely unrelated to anything tonight, but in searching for something completely different I came across this logo for the ’93 Rockies/Marlins expansion draft. Check out that teal/purple MLB logo…really says something about 1993.[/quote]

    I JUST THREW UP!

  • Reed | December 3, 2007 at 12:45 am |

    did anyone see the gold gloves that chad johnson was wearing at the beginning of the steeler game tonight? i saw them on the first drive or two, and then he changed to black…you can kind of see it in the first link on gettyimages..

    gold gloves

  • lemonverbena | December 3, 2007 at 12:58 am |

    [quote comment=”180474″]OSU is in the title game…get over it people. When the season started, they faced three tough ranked opponents, #5 UM, #7 Wisconsin, and #17 Penn State. It’s not their fault those teams imploded.

    You want into the title game? Don’t lose.

    Back on topic…

    Seahawks looking good in their away jerseys. Home? Not so much.[/quote]

    i love the Seahawks whites, and have grown to be ok with the home mono PJs… but it’s a shame the league wouldn’t let them have two helmets. the silver proto helmet would’ve looked cool with the home blues.

    [quote comment=”180474″][quote comment=”180640″]Lovey Smith appears to be wearing a retro-RBK jacket complete with a “pump” on his left breast.[/quote]
    Seahawks looking good in their away jerseys. Home? Not so much.[/quote]

    couldn’t be that retro… Mike Holmgren was wearing the same jacket (with Seahawks logo).

  • Justin | December 3, 2007 at 1:01 am |

    Robert Horry changed his number from #5 to #25, Ime Udoka is now wearing jersey number 5. Apparently (according to around the grapevine) this is because Horry wants to go back to his beginnings. (the number he wore when he was with the Rockets and I believe the suns)

  • todd krevanchi | December 3, 2007 at 1:52 am |

    [quote comment=”180787″]Robert Horry changed his number from #5 to #25, Ime Udoka is now wearing jersey number 5. Apparently (according to around the grapevine) this is because Horry wants to go back to his beginnings. (the number he wore when he was with the Rockets and I believe the suns)[/quote]

    damn! how did all of us miss this?

  • Broker75 | December 3, 2007 at 1:57 am |

    [quote comment=”180768″]Completely unrelated to anything tonight, but in searching for something completely different I came across this logo for the ’93 Rockies/Marlins expansion draft. Check out that teal/purple MLB logo…really says something about 1993.[/quote]
    What was wrong with 1993, the Blue Jays were world champions. But that logo is awful, it doesn’t even reflect the expansion cities or team nicknames..too much purple

  • Swens | December 3, 2007 at 2:06 am |

    logo creep is part of life that will never change. as long as sports equipment companies are willing to pay out the big bucks, their logos will be plastered all over. no one is going to turn down the millions of dollars that schools get to put the logos on jerseys, pants, helmets, etc.

    i do enjoy paul’s mentions of weird logo creep placement or pictures of players with a good ten or twenty logos on them. i don’t think he overdoes it at all. the vast majority of things posted on this site have nothing to do with logo creep.

  • Ryan | December 3, 2007 at 2:41 am |

    I’m going to make a late chime-in on the Oregon uniforms…

    The colors don’t bother me so much, the helmet is trying to hard to be modern though, the in-between colors (half-way between green and yellow here) look like it’s just off of the one or other, but what I hate (sorry, lemme re-state that) HATE is the diamond-plate pattern on the jerseys… It’s comic book-esque, and looks like something that you’d only see the “bad guys” in a football movie wear (they always are over-the-top, ya know)… Seriously, if you wanna look tough, play tough, otherwise you’re trying to hard

  • Colten | December 3, 2007 at 4:15 am |

    This has probably already been covered in the past, but what is Arizona State memorializing on the neckline of their jerseys?

    Also, Oregon’s unis may be ugly, but I like the ghost flames on the yellow helmet.

  • Sam | December 3, 2007 at 4:22 am |

    Travis Henry and the rest of the Broncos and their Sean Taylor decal on the helmet.

    An intersting note since their helmets have 4 numbers on it.

    Sadly, three of them are for players who have died this past year.

  • subway | December 3, 2007 at 6:44 am |

    [quote comment=”180776″][quote comment=”180768″]Completely unrelated to anything tonight, but in searching for something completely different I came across this logo for the ’93 Rockies/Marlins expansion draft. Check out that teal/purple MLB logo…really says something about 1993.[/quote]

    I JUST THREW UP![/quote]
    In your mouth? :-)

  • Bob H | December 3, 2007 at 4:44 pm |

    Arizona State is memorializing Pat Tillman, war hero. They retired his number 42, thus the PT-42. All the sports teams at ASU wear the tag and the tunnel from the ASU football locker room to the field is dubbed the Tillman Tunnel.