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Around the Horn(s)

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My latest ESPN column, which I thought was going to run today, ended up running yesterday while I was traveling. Some of you have already seen it; for those who haven’t, look here.

While researching that column, I received a contribution from reader Steve Johnston, who sent me a shot of the Hinsdale (Illinois) Central High School Red Devils. He wanted me to know about the “PTR” on their nose bumper, which is short for their slogan, “Pound the rock,” but I was actually more intrigued by their helmet design, with its little devil horns. “They’ve been wearing the horns for as long as I’ve known them,” Steve explained. “My dad wore them in the ’60s, and I’m sure it was going on a lot longer than that.”

Horns have always been an appealing helmet motif. They were, of course, the first design ever applied to a football lid, and people routinely tell me that the Rams’ helmet design is the NFL’s best, “because the design is part of the helmet, instead of just a logo put onto the helmet,” or words to that effect (plus I occasionally hear similar things about the Vikings, although their horns have always struck me as less attractive, because they’re supposed to be sticking outward, which means they’re more of an applied logo than an embedded design).

Until Steve sent me that Hinsdale Central photo, however, I’d never seen little horns on the front of a helmet. But then two photos showed up on Chris Creamer board, showing that very similar horns had been worn by the West Texas State Buffaloes in the 1960s and the Colorado Buffaloes in the mid-1950s.

Colorado, as it turns out, has used a surprisingly wide variety of horn designs over the years. In addition to the front horns in the mid-’50s, they wore this stylized design from 1959-61 (further info here) and this version — which happens to be my favorite — in the late 1960s (additional info here).

Antlers aren’t quite the same thing as horns, but they’re close enough for our purposes. But I’d never seen antlers on a helmet until a few days ago, when Riley Adair sent me some pics of the Buckhorn Bucks, an Alabama high school team (additional pics here and here).

This raises some interesting possibilities, because there are lots of other horn and antler styles out there. Imagine if there’s ever a team called the gazelles or the reindeer. Best of all, imagine the unicorns — now that would present a good design challenge.

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Membership Update: A new batch of membership kits went out in the mail on Tuesday, so those should start showing up in your mailboxes momentarily.

Meanwhile, I had originally set this weekend as the deadline for placing orders for discounted gift memberships, but I’ve decided to extend that deadline to next Wednesday, the 5th.

Also, for those who keep track of such things, we’re now just a few orders away from our 500th member. My thanks to everyone who’s made the project such a big success.

As for today’s showcase design, it’s based on the early-1970s California Golden Seals.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Several people have mentioned to me that the mid-field logo at Sun Devil stadium had been altered for the Thanksgiving USC/ASU game, so that the devil was skewering a turkey leg, but nobody had a photo. But now Andrew Ranck has come up with one. Wish more teams would do holiday-themed tweaks like this. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: The U.S. Army is retrofitting a million of their uniforms due to “crotch durability problems.” Yes, really. … Decal maven Chris Willis reports that the Sean Taylor memorial decal will look like this, but I’m still holding out hope that some of the ’Skins will do something stripe-related. … The double-A New Hampshire Fisher Cats have unveiled their new uniforms and logo designs, which you can see in this PDF file. Naturally, I like the color scheme and the vertically arched road-jersey insignia, but the rest of the design looks painfully rinky-dink.

 

229 comments to Around the Horn(s)

  • Bill Fenbers | November 29, 2007 at 8:01 am |

    The mid-field logo at ALLTEL stadium was tweaked for Jaguars/Cardinals game in 2000 season. It was the holiday season, and the Jaguar head painted at the 50 yard line had a Santa Claus hat added to it. Sorry I don’t have a picture of it.

  • Kek | November 29, 2007 at 8:05 am |

    My brother and I were talking about the Jags’ logo and how they haven’t done that for a couple of seasons. Always thought that was cool. Aside from unis, I love the subtle (some not-so-subtle) differences in playing fields. I think that Sun Devil Stadium has much more character now that they aren’t sharing it with the Cards anymore.

    Paul, liked the bumper column. I wasn’t able to find a photo, but I recall Bears’ kicker Kevin Butler having “Butt Head” on his front and rear bumpers for a few games.

  • LI Phil | November 29, 2007 at 8:31 am |

    nice article paul…would there be any legality issues for a team actually adding horns to their helmets? ya know…just a couple nubs protruding out from the bumpers or something…now THAT would be schweet

    a couple readers posted an article with these mockups of the jays and royals and their new HOME powder blue alts…anyone know if this is going to be like a “sunday red”-type thing such as the bravos & sawks do (or have done) the past couple seasons…or might we see these alts with more regularity?

  • Dwight | November 29, 2007 at 8:32 am |

    Bringing beauty back to Houston (maybe Round Rock)?

    http://www.chron.com...

  • Cosmo | November 29, 2007 at 8:34 am |

    You can sort of see the santa hat on the jaguar here:

    http://www.angelfire...

  • Robert | November 29, 2007 at 8:40 am |

    I loved the write-up on the helmet bumpers. Pre-Uni Watch, I did not know that they were there for nose protection, instead figuring that bumpers existed for promotional purposes only.

    Looking back, I should have figured this out when I watched “North Dallas Forty” as a kid and was perplexed as to why the offensive linemen kept getting bloody wounds to the bridges of their noses.

  • Bill Fenbers | November 29, 2007 at 8:43 am |

    I found this pic from jacksonville.com, you can sort of see the santa hat. This was the only pic of it that the website had.

  • Justin B | November 29, 2007 at 8:43 am |

    The helmet with the buck horns has to be one of the most unique helmets I have ever seen.

  • Bill Fenbers | November 29, 2007 at 8:44 am |

    Lets try this link for the jaguar santa hat.

    http://i192.photobuc...

  • Justin B | November 29, 2007 at 8:51 am |

    With talk about copying helmet designs yesterday I thought these two schools have good designs. (One has altered what could be a West Virginia logo into their school name.)

  • Justin B | November 29, 2007 at 8:52 am |

    [quote comment=”178919″]With talk about copying helmet designs yesterday I thought these two schools have good designs. (One has altered what could be a West Virginia logo into their school name.)[/quote]

    The website again.

  • Bill Fenbers | November 29, 2007 at 8:58 am |

    [quote comment=”178916″]Lets try this link for the jaguar santa hat.

    http://i192.photobuc...

    The pic is from December 10, 2000. From http://www.jacksonvi...

  • Marc M. | November 29, 2007 at 9:01 am |

    When the Philadelphia Eagles inexplicitly redesigned their helmets a few years ago they made the wings look like Bullwinkle J. Moose. Take a look.

  • LI Phil | November 29, 2007 at 9:05 am |

    santa hat at jacksonville…not a great pic, but clearly it can be seen

  • LI Phil | November 29, 2007 at 9:14 am |

    not sure if that angel fire image will show up…but here’s the webpage containing the link…scroll down to “jacksonville, florida”, second paragraph, where it begins

    [quote]—–Ah, finally inside the building. The game didn’t mean anything, but at least the grounds crew gave the jaguar a little Santa hat.[/quote]

    click on the santa hat link

  • blt | November 29, 2007 at 9:25 am |

    The Pack going with the white tonight…

    http://packers.com/n...

  • Stuby | November 29, 2007 at 9:30 am |

    It seems that the Cowboy’s unique-ness even extends to their locker room. Whenever I see a Cowboy’s player being interviewed on TV in front of his locker, I know what team it is by the font of the player’s name on the locker.

    I don’t know how long they have used this particular font for this purpose. I will be interested to see if they carry it over to the lockers in their new stadium.

  • Rick | November 29, 2007 at 9:36 am |

    plus I occasionally here similar things

    I think you mean “hear”, not “here” Paul.

  • teddymcg | November 29, 2007 at 9:43 am |

    I haven’t been able to find a pic yet, but the Deer Creek Antlers (high school north of Oklahoma City) used to have their mascot displayed on their helmets. A friend who went to school there told me you had to be tough to play with antlers on your head.

  • Randy Miller | November 29, 2007 at 9:45 am |

    The Cowboys have been using that font on their lockers since at least the late 1970s.

  • Paul Lukas | November 29, 2007 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”178936″]plus I occasionally here similar things

    I think you mean “hear”, not “here” Paul.[/quote]

    Thanks. Fixed.

  • Pat | November 29, 2007 at 9:50 am |

    Very upset about the uni changes for the New Hampshire Fisher Cats. Not that I don’t like the uniforms, really, they aren’t all that bad. But I am more upset that they got rid of the Old Man of the Mountain sleeve patch (I couldn’t find a great picture, but you can kind of see it there). Sure, the old man is gone now but it’s still a big part of New Hampshire imagery.

  • Greg | November 29, 2007 at 9:52 am |

    I was introduced to the term Porphyrophobia the other day and and of course it made me think of this site.

  • JoeS | November 29, 2007 at 9:54 am |

    I was at the Coyotes vs Wild game last night. That sure was a great looking hockey game! Being a Redwings fan, I didn’t much care who won, but I just couldn’t take my eyes off those beautiful uniforms. So simple, so clean. And that coyotes logo, perfect! I sound ridiculous, but honestly, it was beautiful.

  • Paul Lukas | November 29, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”178944″]I was introduced to the term Porphyrophobia the other day and and of course it made me think of this site.[/quote]

    Just to be clear: I don’t fear purple; I loathe purple. Hell, purple should fear ME.

    I do, however, fear mushrooms.

  • JoeS | November 29, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”178944″]I was introduced to the term Porphyrophobia the other day and and of course it made me think of this site.[/quote]
    Isn,t it kind of messed up that half way down that page they have this? Couldn’t they make it a different color?

  • Greg | November 29, 2007 at 9:59 am |

    I don’t know if they do it for every game, but I also noticed during the Arizona State game that the little arrows painted next to the yardline numbers were little pitchforks, and the 5 in the 50’s on the fifty yard line had little devil horns and a devil tail.

  • vyacheslav | November 29, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    Don’t know if anyone else noticed this, but in that ASU-USC game on Thanksgiving Night, the arrows next to the numbers on the yard lines (40, 30 etc) were actually little pitchforks instead of arrows. Also, since the 50 is the middle of the field (and doesn’t have arrows)the 5 in the 50 had a devils tale (with a spike) on the end of it. I think this is great! Why don’t more teams do this? By the way, does anyone know why the arrows on the numbers are now required? They used to be optional in the NCAA, but now they are required. All those arrows do is point towards the nearest end zone. Is that so when you are watching the game on TV, you know which 30 yard line the offense is on (close to their end zone or their opponents)? It doesn’t make much sense to me, because the camera is usually panned back wide enough for you to see at least the next numbered yard line.

  • BobA | November 29, 2007 at 10:04 am |

    Paul:

    When in Austin you were right up I-35 from New Braunfels High School, home of the Fightin’ Unicorns. I can’t find any pix that are not blocked my my workplace server but I bet they are out there.

  • Greg | November 29, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”178947″]

    Just to be clear: I don’t fear purple; I loathe purple. Hell, purple should fear ME.

    I do, however, fear mushrooms.[/quote]

    That’s an important distinction.

    According to this list the only colors for which there are associated phobias are purple, red, white, and yellow.

  • Robert | November 29, 2007 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”178947″][quote comment=”178944″]I was introduced to the term Porphyrophobia the other day and and of course it made me think of this site.[/quote]

    Just to be clear: I don’t fear purple; I loathe purple. Hell, purple should fear ME.

    I do, however, fear mushrooms.[/quote]

    That’s very funny . . . but now you’ve made me hungry for a mushroom pizza.

  • Paul Lukas | November 29, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”178955″]When in Austin you were right up I-35 from New Braunfels High School, home of the Fightin’ Unicorns. I can’t find any pix that are not blocked my my workplace server but I bet they are out there.[/quote]

    Unfortunately, they appear to have taken a very boring approach to their helmet design.

  • Stuby | November 29, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”178947″][quote comment=”178944″]I was introduced to the term Porphyrophobia the other day and and of course it made me think of this site.[/quote]

    Just to be clear: I don’t fear purple; I loathe purple. Hell, purple should fear ME.

    I do, however, fear mushrooms.[/quote]
    I don’t fear mushrooms, but I am repulsed by them. I do, however, fear ‘possums.

  • John | November 29, 2007 at 10:17 am |

    Can’t someone find it out there? There has to be a high school out that that is called the Fighting Purple Possums!

  • Stuby | November 29, 2007 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”178962″]Can’t someone find it out there? There has to be a high school out that that is called the Fighting Purple Possums![/quote]
    Perhaps in Possum Kingdom, TX or Possum Trot, KY.

  • Kwik | November 29, 2007 at 10:25 am |

    [quote comment=”178962″]Can’t someone find it out there? There has to be a high school out that that is called the Fighting Purple Possums![/quote]

    If we can find someone with a documented fear of Tornadoes (Lilapsophobia- technically the fear of tornadoes and/or hurricanes), and purple, I’ve got them covered with the Norwich (NY) High School Purple Tornado. Yes, they’ve gone out in all-purple on more than one occasion (In fact, that is the home uniform for the football team. Purple shirt, white numbering, purple pants, purple socks, purple helmet with white lettering) I myself, in my younger and more foolish days, before I was educated to the ways of uniform wisdom, took to the soccer field clad in all purple. I ask for all your forgiveness for this transgression.

  • Ted | November 29, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    I think I remember reading that the powder blue Jay’s uni’s would be worn during their flaschback friday’s promo.

  • Stuby | November 29, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”178966″]I think I remember reading that the powder blue Jay’s uni’s would be worn during their flaschback friday’s promo.[/quote]
    So, they’re wearing road unis at home?

  • dm00n | November 29, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    We’ve talked about teams wearing a logo from a team in a different sport (like the Admirals/Brewers) but this is a new one for me:

    Further proof that it’s always Red Sox season in New Hampshire: Fans attending Saturday’s American Hockey League game between the Manchester Monarchs and Rockford IceHogs will have their opportunity to have their picture taken with the 2007 World Series trophy…

    …Back on the ice, Monarchs players will wear jerseys adorned with the Red Sox 2007 World Series championship commemorative patch.

  • warren thompson | November 29, 2007 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”178959″][quote comment=”178955″]When in Austin you were right up I-35 from New Braunfels High School, home of the Fightin’ Unicorns. I can’t find any pix that are not blocked my my workplace server but I bet they are out there.[/quote]

    Unfortunately, they appear to have taken a very boring approach to their helmet design.[/quote]

    Boring, indeed. A unicorn horn, perhaps even the head of a unicorn, on each side of the helmet would be nice.

  • dm00n | November 29, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    The Hornets tested the fit and materials of year’s All-Star jerseys at Wednesday’s practice for Adidas and the NBA.

  • Chance | November 29, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”178932″]The Pack going with the white tonight…

    http://packers.com/n...

    The most interesting thing in that article, from a uniform standpoint:

    The change actually saved Batty and his staff some work for this game. This season, the Packers have a special patch on their green jerseys commemorating the 50th anniversary of Lambeau Field. But that patch would have to have been removed for a road game, and then replaced for the next home game.

    I think I might have to add that tidbit to the database.

  • ryan c #40 | November 29, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    Rams’ helmet design is the NFL’s best, “because the design is part of the helmet, instead of just a logo put onto the helmet,”

    …let’s not forget my teams division rival, ugh, the bengals and their helmet “design”…

  • LI Phil | November 29, 2007 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”178969″][quote comment=”178966″]I think I remember reading that the powder blue Jay’s uni’s would be worn during their flaschback friday’s promo.[/quote]
    So, they’re wearing road unis at home?[/quote]

    yes

    apparently, they’re not road unis anymore

  • blt | November 29, 2007 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”178974″][quote comment=”178932″]The Pack going with the white tonight…

    http://packers.com/n...

    The most interesting thing in that article, from a uniform standpoint:

    The change actually saved Batty and his staff some work for this game. This season, the Packers have a special patch on their green jerseys commemorating the 50th anniversary of Lambeau Field. But that patch would have to have been removed for a road game, and then replaced for the next home game.

    I think I might have to add that tidbit to the database.[/quote]

    I know, talk about meticulous and laborious. I’d say the easier thing would be to just have two green unis at the ready.

  • dm00n | November 29, 2007 at 10:43 am |

    The other day there was some discussion about retiring numbers in the NFL, here is the position of the Rams:

    Rams equipment manager Todd Hewitt said the team doesn’t have any officially retired numbers, but there are certain numbers that he doesn’t issue.

    That list includes No. 85 (Jack Youngblood), No. 74 (Merlin Olsen), No. 29 (Eric Dickerson), No. 40 (Elroy “Crazy Legs” Hirsch), No. 7 (Bob Waterfield) and No. 28 (Faulk).

    “The league doesn’t want you to retire numbers, they want you to retire jerseys,” Hewitt said.

    Hewitt, whose father, Don, also served as the equipment manager for the Rams, said former Rams owner Daniel Reeves decreed that both Waterfield’s and Hirsch’s numbers would never be worn again.

    “The best one was when we were in L.A., Tony Zendejas came in and wanted to be No. 7,” Hewitt said. “My dad said, ‘Here’s the deal. The year you lead the league in passing and punting and scoring, then you can have No. 7.’

    “I don’t know if he realized what kind of player Bob Waterfield was.”

    Hewitt said he initially issued No. 29 to former Rams cornerback Dre’ Bly when he was drafted in the second round of the 1999 NFL Draft.

    “John Shaw called me and said, ‘I don’t want anybody wearing No. 29,”‘ Hewitt said.

  • blt | November 29, 2007 at 10:43 am |

    If the Cowboys are going throwback, the Pack should surprise them with a ’67 throwback of their own.

  • Dave | November 29, 2007 at 10:43 am |

    The Mt. Lebanon Blue Devils (high school in Pittsburgh) have been using these vertical horns for years.

  • 9/9 | November 29, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    North Carolina School of Science and Math are the Unicorns, though they sadly don’t have a football team (they are just a 11-12 grade school).

    http://www.ncssm.edu...

  • Stuby | November 29, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”178976″]”Rams’ helmet design is the NFL’s best, “because the design is part of the helmet, instead of just a logo put onto the helmet,”

    …let’s not forget my teams division rival, ugh, the bengals and their helmet “design”…[/quote]
    I’m a big fan of the Iowa Barnstormers helmet (Arena League) for the same reason.

  • Sean | November 29, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”178934″]It seems that the Cowboy’s unique-ness even extends to their locker room. Whenever I see a Cowboy’s player being interviewed on TV in front of his locker, I know what team it is by the font of the player’s name on the locker.

    I don’t know how long they have used this particular font for this purpose. I will be interested to see if they carry it over to the lockers in their new stadium.[/quote]

    The font that the Cowboys use on their lockers is called Hobo.

  • Art | November 29, 2007 at 10:54 am |

    UCLA’s Alfred Aboya sported some bright yellow goggles (which looked like sunglasses from where I was sitting) yesterday after fracturing a bone in near his eye.

  • Greg V. | November 29, 2007 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”178976″]”Rams’ helmet design is the NFL’s best, “because the design is part of the helmet, instead of just a logo put onto the helmet,”

    …let’s not forget my teams division rival, ugh, the bengals and their helmet “design”…[/quote]

    I agree. I have always liked the designs like the Bengals, Eagles, Vikings, and Rams whose helmets are more than a logo on a helmet. One reason for the Bengals might be because until around 1999 the Bengals didn’t have an official logo. The early helmets just said BENGALS on either side. I think the Rams logo is a fairly recent addition too.

    now if the Bengals could just lose the side panels…

  • joe | November 29, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”178919″]With talk about copying helmet designs yesterday I thought these two schools have good designs. (One has altered what could be a West Virginia logo into their school name.)[/quote]

    I prefer the Vernon Hills, IL Van halen logo rip off.
    http://pioneerlocal....

  • Craig | November 29, 2007 at 11:04 am |

    What was the HBO series back in the 80’s that featured a professional football team called the “Bulls”? They had a really cool forward facing horn and a stripe with a nose ring on the front of the stripe…DAMN! I can’t remember…anyone wanna help a brotha out?

  • Robert | November 29, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”178994″]What was the HBO series back in the 80’s that featured a professional football team called the “Bulls”? They had a really cool forward facing horn and a stripe with a nose ring on the front of the stripe…DAMN! I can’t remember…anyone wanna help a brotha out?[/quote]

    http://en.wikipedia....(HBO_TV_series)

  • Pete | November 29, 2007 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”178988″][quote comment=”178976″]”Rams’ helmet design is the NFL’s best, “because the design is part of the helmet, instead of just a logo put onto the helmet,”

    …let’s not forget my teams division rival, ugh, the bengals and their helmet “design”…[/quote]

    I agree. I have always liked the designs like the Bengals, Eagles, Vikings, and Rams whose helmets are more than a logo on a helmet. One reason for the Bengals might be because until around 1999 the Bengals didn’t have an official logo. The early helmets just said BENGALS on either side. I think the Rams logo is a fairly recent addition too.

    now if the Bengals could just lose the side panels…[/quote]

    The Bengals’ current helmet first came out in 1981, the year they went to their first Super Bowl. How odd it was to see Ken Anderson wearing that helmet with an old 2-bar facemask.

  • Mark | November 29, 2007 at 11:13 am |

    That FisherCats wordmark immediately made me think of the Hamilton TigerCats.

  • Stuby | November 29, 2007 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”178996″][quote comment=”178994″]What was the HBO series back in the 80’s that featured a professional football team called the “Bulls”? They had a really cool forward facing horn and a stripe with a nose ring on the front of the stripe…DAMN! I can’t remember…anyone wanna help a brotha out?[/quote]

    http://en.wikipedia....(HBO_TV_series)%5B/quote%5D
    Yep.

  • My name is not Earl | November 29, 2007 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”178977″][quote comment=”178974″][quote comment=”178932″]The Pack going with the white tonight…

    http://packers.com/n...

    The most interesting thing in that article, from a uniform standpoint:

    The change actually saved Batty and his staff some work for this game. This season, the Packers have a special patch on their green jerseys commemorating the 50th anniversary of Lambeau Field. But that patch would have to have been removed for a road game, and then replaced for the next home game.

    I think I might have to add that tidbit to the database.[/quote]

    I know, talk about meticulous and laborious. I’d say the easier thing would be to just have two green unis at the ready.[/quote]

    Which leads to an interesting question . . . for NFL teams (and presumably for NBA, MLB, and NHL teams), how many jerseys do teams go through in a year? Sure, the average NBA player goes through several pairs of shoes a year, but does, say, Randy Moss wear the same blue #81 jersey all year?

  • David | November 29, 2007 at 11:14 am |

    A couple years back, the Raiders were playing the Cahrgers on Halloween, and at Qualcomm, the 30yd lines had pumpkins. Sorry no pics.

  • LM | November 29, 2007 at 11:14 am |

    If you are like me, it is not a good day to have Cable television. It sure would be nice to see the Cowboys in their throwbacks, and see if the Packers will match them with their own set of throwbacks.
    Oh well…..I guess that the NFL and Cable companies are going to fight their little battle using me as the pawn.

  • Pete | November 29, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”178980″]If the Cowboys are going throwback, the Pack should surprise them with a ’67 throwback of their own.[/quote]

    Yeah, I’m sure they can get that done by 7:15 tonight. Maybe there’s a memorabilia shop in Dallas that happens to have enough to outfit the whole team…

    I believe throwbacks have to be approved by the NFL ahead of time, and the teams have to designate what games will feature the uniform. The NFL won’t allow a “surprise” uniform, like Notre Dame coming out in green. Teams have to get special approval to wear a throwback more than originally intended, like the 49ers did in 1994.

  • Chance | November 29, 2007 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”179000″][quote comment=”178977″][quote comment=”178974″][quote comment=”178932″]The Pack going with the white tonight…

    http://packers.com/n...

    The most interesting thing in that article, from a uniform standpoint:

    The change actually saved Batty and his staff some work for this game. This season, the Packers have a special patch on their green jerseys commemorating the 50th anniversary of Lambeau Field. But that patch would have to have been removed for a road game, and then replaced for the next home game.

    I think I might have to add that tidbit to the database.[/quote]

    I know, talk about meticulous and laborious. I’d say the easier thing would be to just have two green unis at the ready.[/quote]

    Which leads to an interesting question . . . for NFL teams (and presumably for NBA, MLB, and NHL teams), how many jerseys do teams go through in a year? Sure, the average NBA player goes through several pairs of shoes a year, but does, say, Randy Moss wear the same blue #81 jersey all year?[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure that, even in this day and age, players wear the same jersey in multiple games.

    I want to say that they go through three or so a year, but can’t remember where I read that.

    Brett Favre wears a cold-weather jersey on rare occasions, with the handwarmer built-in, and years after the contract switched to Reebok he still dragged out the Nike version (because they apparently hadn’t thought to make him a new one).

  • Kent Skor | November 29, 2007 at 11:31 am |

    Article and picture in the Atlanta paper today:

    “Wide receiver Joe Horn (hamstring/foot) wore white practice pants in his first public practice since returning from injury. When asked why the white pants, while the rest of the team was in black, Horn said, “Because it [looked] sweet. You’ve got to be different.””

    On the Falcons, the best way to look different is to play winning football.

    Link1

    Link2

  • Broker75 | November 29, 2007 at 11:32 am |

    ..just chimed in, Today’s showcase design based on the early-1970s California Golden Seals is the best I’ve seen regarding membership cards.
    -I’m tempted to send the Buffalo/Toronto Bills the photo of the West Texas State Buffaloes’ helmets to see if they would amend their current helmets to the ones in the picture..when they move out of town.
    And quoted from the ticker: “Imagine if there’s ever a team called the gazelles” yes! a wicked name for a sports team! Team colors could be solid black and white with lots of stripes, black and white may be boring to some but it’s better than some of todays “new” colors that push the HD factor.

  • Justin B | November 29, 2007 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”178991″][quote comment=”178919″]With talk about copying helmet designs yesterday I thought these two schools have good designs. (One has altered what could be a West Virginia logo into their school name.)[/quote]

    I prefer the Vernon Hills, IL Van halen logo rip off.
    http://pioneerlocal....

    Nice find. Also notice the horns. Or what I think are horns. Double bonus for the day.

  • Steve B | November 29, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    Great column on the nose bumpers Paul. Something I noticed is that at some point, the nose bumper lost its primary function. Look at the difference between these two images. and then this (sorry if I messed up the coding) When did the change occur?

    Steve B

  • Pedro | November 29, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”178965″][quote comment=”178962″]Can’t someone find it out there? There has to be a high school out that that is called the Fighting Purple Possums![/quote]

    If we can find someone with a documented fear of Tornadoes (Lilapsophobia- technically the fear of tornadoes and/or hurricanes), and purple, I’ve got them covered with the Norwich (NY) High School Purple Tornado. Yes, they’ve gone out in all-purple on more than one occasion (In fact, that is the home uniform for the football team. Purple shirt, white numbering, purple pants, purple socks, purple helmet with white lettering) I myself, in my younger and more foolish days, before I was educated to the ways of uniform wisdom, took to the soccer field clad in all purple. I ask for all your forgiveness for this transgression.[/quote]

    I remember playing soccer against Norwich a few times in High School. Like you, I was not well versed in uniform nuances at the time, so their purple didn’t phase me. Unfortunately, I went to a school who added black to the otherwise green and white color scheme, so I can’t say that my uniforms were much better.

  • Joey Guns | November 29, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    I’m sure this has been a popular thing for some time now, but I just noticed that golfer Rory Sabbatini has the South African flag on his golf shoes:

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • blt | November 29, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”179004″][quote comment=”178980″]If the Cowboys are going throwback, the Pack should surprise them with a ’67 throwback of their own.[/quote]

    Yeah, I’m sure they can get that done by 7:15 tonight. Maybe there’s a memorabilia shop in Dallas that happens to have enough to outfit the whole team…

    I believe throwbacks have to be approved by the NFL ahead of time, and the teams have to designate what games will feature the uniform. The NFL won’t allow a “surprise” uniform, like Notre Dame coming out in green. Teams have to get special approval to wear a throwback more than originally intended, like the 49ers did in 1994.[/quote]

    Well, yes, I’m well aware of the impractical nature of the whole thing, but a man can dream can’t he? I mean ’60s style socks would be enough. It seems the defensive backfield isn’t beyond flouting league regs. Instead of yellow shoes or bad tape jobs, focus on the hose.

  • ryan c #40 | November 29, 2007 at 11:52 am |

    there are numbers that the steelers won’t issue as well (12, 88, 75, etc.). thats a fact!

  • patrick | November 29, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”179000″][quote comment=”178977″][quote comment=”178974″][quote comment=”178932″]The Pack going with the white tonight…

    http://packers.com/n...

    The most interesting thing in that article, from a uniform standpoint:

    The change actually saved Batty and his staff some work for this game. This season, the Packers have a special patch on their green jerseys commemorating the 50th anniversary of Lambeau Field. But that patch would have to have been removed for a road game, and then replaced for the next home game.

    I think I might have to add that tidbit to the database.[/quote]

    I know, talk about meticulous and laborious. I’d say the easier thing would be to just have two green unis at the ready.[/quote]

    Which leads to an interesting question . . . for NFL teams (and presumably for NBA, MLB, and NHL teams), how many jerseys do teams go through in a year? Sure, the average NBA player goes through several pairs of shoes a year, but does, say, Randy Moss wear the same blue #81 jersey all year?[/quote]

    On a tour of MSG, in the knicks locker room they noted that virtually every player plays in a new pair each game. Some even switch at halftime.

  • Steve B | November 29, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”179012″]Great column on the nose bumpers Paul. Something I noticed is that at some point, the nose bumper lost its primary function. Look at the difference between these two images. and then this (sorry if I messed up the coding) When did the change occur?

    Steve B[/quote]

    Sorry

    Useful

    Not so useful

  • Jim | November 29, 2007 at 11:54 am |

    Ahhhh its not a reindeer, at least in north america…its a caribou! Reindeer are domesticated caribou.

  • Adrian Newman | November 29, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    Paul,

    When the Tampa Bay Rays unveiled their new unis, they had players parade them to the public, including Delmon Young:

    http://www.sptimes.c...

    So now that Young’s a Twin, he’ll never wear that on the field. So the question is, has any other player worn a team’s uniform for publicity purposes, but never in game action?

    I know that with the recent sweeping NHL changes, we saw a lot of this:

    http://cdn.nhl.com/i...

    But do you (anyone?) remember unique situations akin to Young’s?

    Thanks!

  • Fran | November 29, 2007 at 12:02 pm |

    In the nose bumper article you didn’t mention Duke in with the ACC teams, here’s an example:

  • Fran | November 29, 2007 at 12:04 pm |

    With the link this time:

    Duke Football

  • Paul Lukas | November 29, 2007 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”179022″]But do you (anyone?) remember unique situations akin to Young’s?[/quote]

    Off the top of my head: A few yrs back the Mets signed Jesse Orosco in the off-season, and I specifically remember seeing him posing in a Mets jersey during a press conference. But then they traded him for Joe McEwing before the season started.

    Not sure if this counts as actually “wearing the uniform,” since he just had a jersey over his civvies.

  • Justin B | November 29, 2007 at 12:08 pm |

    Another horn.

  • dm00n | November 29, 2007 at 12:10 pm |

    Leroy Pine River (Mich.) Bucks have a nice horn design. It is sort of the reverse of a lot of the others, with the horns starting in the back.

    Game photo here.

  • LI Phil | November 29, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”179029″]Leroy Pine River (Mich.) Bucks have a nice horn design. It is sort of the reverse of a lot of the others, with the horns starting in the back.

    Game photo here.[/quote]

    those horns are SCHWEET…but

    absolutely get ruined with the pride stickers

  • Kerry P | November 29, 2007 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”178959″][quote comment=”178955″]When in Austin you were right up I-35 from New Braunfels High School, home of the Fightin’ Unicorns. I can’t find any pix that are not blocked my my workplace server but I bet they are out there.[/quote]

    Unfortunately, they appear to have taken a very boring approach to their helmet design.[/quote]
    Sadly, THEY HAVE.

  • Scott | November 29, 2007 at 12:25 pm |

    Strangely, possums are afraid of mushrooms.

  • JoeS | November 29, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”179029″]Leroy Pine River (Mich.) Bucks have a nice horn design. It is sort of the reverse of a lot of the others, with the horns starting in the back.

    Game photo here.[/quote]

    My high school was the Redmen and we had an Indian Chief logo so there was always debate over whether to change it. I always kind of hoped that they would change it to the bucks, as deer hunting is huge in Upper Michigan (we even get the first day of deer season off from school) and this is exactly what I imagined would be on the helmet.

  • blt | November 29, 2007 at 12:30 pm |

    Any schools with the Bucks nickname go by the Does for womens athletics?

  • Philly Bill | November 29, 2007 at 12:30 pm |

    Just finished watching the Phillies new uniform press conference. I usually don’t like alts, and I was always proud of the Phils for holding out against the fad, by they don’t look too bad. Wasn’t a big fan of Cole Hammels going baggy, but J-Roll looked pretty sharp. The shiny red cleats don’t go well with the cream pants, but other than that, I’m happy. I don’t even mind the blue hat that much.

  • Justin | November 29, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”179020″][quote comment=”179012″]Great column on the nose bumpers Paul. Something I noticed is that at some point, the nose bumper lost its primary function. Look at the difference between these two images. and then this (sorry if I messed up the coding) When did the change occur?

    Steve B[/quote]

    Sorry

    Useful

    Not so useful[/quote]

    I would think that if the purpose of the nose bumper was to prevent the face mask from being rotated up into a players nose, that after the face masks started being fastened to the top of the helmet as well that it reduced the functionality of the nose bumper.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | November 29, 2007 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”178920″][quote comment=”178919″]With talk about copying helmet designs yesterday I thought these two schools have good designs. (One has altered what could be a West Virginia logo into their school name.)[/quote]

    The website again.[/quote]

    You are correct, sir! Waubonsie Valley High School has used the West Virginia-style “WV” for quite a few years now

  • Dan King | November 29, 2007 at 12:41 pm |

    or there’s the Buckeye Bucks route. In high school we had 3 teams near us that would’ve had to change their names following the PC outbreak: the Port Clinton Redskins(speculated to change to the Walleye, for being the Walleye capital of the world), the Bellevue Redmen, and the Oberlin Warriors(which are now the Oberlin Phoenix)

  • JoeS | November 29, 2007 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”179020″][quote comment=”179012″]Great column on the nose bumpers Paul. Something I noticed is that at some point, the nose bumper lost its primary function. Look at the difference between these two images. and then this (sorry if I messed up the coding) When did the change occur?

    Steve B[/quote]

    Sorry

    Useful

    Not so useful[/quote]

    It looks to me like the piece with the wordmark is separate from the actual bumper (I imagine for practical purposes such as being able to switch out the wordmark without removing the entire bumper). On most of those helmets it looks like the bumper is still there, but the “Not so useful” pic you linked to just shows the separate wordmark piece (confirmation Mr. Skiba?).
    This one, however looks like there is no bumper at all. I imagine that the nose bumper is not as important today because of the increased padding in the helmet on the forehead (which would act as something of a bumper if necessary) and the tighter fit of modern helmets, but does anyone know of players that don’t use them today or any player ever going bumper AND wordmark free?

  • JoeS | November 29, 2007 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”179048″][quote comment=”179020″][quote comment=”179012″]Great column on the nose bumpers Paul. Something I noticed is that at some point, the nose bumper lost its primary function. Look at the difference between these two images. and then this (sorry if I messed up the coding) When did the change occur?

    Steve B[/quote]

    Sorry

    Useful

    Not so useful[/quote]

    I would think that if the purpose of the nose bumper was to prevent the face mask from being rotated up into a players nose, that after the face masks started being fastened to the top of the helmet as well that it reduced the functionality of the nose bumper.[/quote]

    Not quite. From Lukas’ article:
    opposing players would often grab onto the mask and pivot the helmet forward, with unfortunate results for the bridge of a player’s nose.
    That is to say that the problem was that when the mask was pulled down, the top edge of the helmet (where the bumper is now) would get slammed into the players nose. The bumper made it a little softer when this happened.

  • Rob B | November 29, 2007 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”179046″]Just finished watching the Phillies new uniform press conference. I usually don’t like alts, and I was always proud of the Phils for holding out against the fad, by they don’t look too bad. Wasn’t a big fan of Cole Hammels going baggy, but J-Roll looked pretty sharp. The shiny red cleats don’t go well with the cream pants, but other than that, I’m happy. I don’t even mind the blue hat that much.[/quote]

    Phillies New Unis

  • Jet | November 29, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    WOO HOO, MY MEMBERSHIP CARD IS THE FEATURED DESIGN TODAY!!

    LOOKS SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!

    -JET

  • Kevin McGuire | November 29, 2007 at 12:53 pm |

    I was just putting together my own blog post about the Phillies new uniforms and had the exact same reaction as you Rob B. When Hamels came out I was left wanting more, then the MVP came out and the uniforms actually looked pretty decent. It was only a matter of time befroe the Phillies put together some kind of uniform to make some more money, right?

  • JoeS | November 29, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”179055″][quote comment=”179046″]Just finished watching the Phillies new uniform press conference. I usually don’t like alts, and I was always proud of the Phils for holding out against the fad, by they don’t look too bad. Wasn’t a big fan of Cole Hammels going baggy, but J-Roll looked pretty sharp. The shiny red cleats don’t go well with the cream pants, but other than that, I’m happy. I don’t even mind the blue hat that much.[/quote]

    Phillies New Unis[/quote]

    Haha, before the article even begins we see a link stating:
    Buy the new Phillies jersey
    and again at the bottom:
    On Sale
    The new uniform jersey and cap are exclusively available at the Majestic Clubhouse Store at Citizens Bank Park tomorrow through Saturday and again next week. Store hours are 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., Monday through Saturday. After Saturday, they will also be available at all Modell’s Sporting Goods stores.

    Fans may also purchase the new items by calling 1-877-GO-PHILS or at phillies.com.
    I wonder what their motivation is for creating new alt unis?

  • Cornellian | November 29, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    “[Horns] were, of course, the first design ever applied to a football lid..”

    Really? Seems to me the Princeton/Michigan design arrived in Ann Arbor in 1938 after a few years in Jersey. See: here & here.
    I’d say that predates the 1948 Rams, who may be the first PRO team with a helmet design, but lagged behind at least two college teams.

  • dm00n | November 29, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”179055″]

    Phillies New Unis[/quote]

    Hmm, gets a shrug from me. Not really an improvement over what they have, but not bad. Just feels like a “what’s the point” kind of thing.

  • TOG | November 29, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    The double-A New Hampshire Fisher Cats have unveiled their new uniforms and logo designs, which you can see in this PDF file. Naturally, I like the color scheme and the vertically arched road-jersey insignia, but the rest of the design looks painfully rinky-dink.

    Suck is too nice a word.

    Minor League Manure strikes again…Doghsit…oppps that’s a cat? Catshit?

    Did the in-house designers at Fisher Nuts do this mark? Appears so. OMG!!!

    http://images.google...

  • Matt M | November 29, 2007 at 12:56 pm |

    The Fisher Cats logos have a lot of elements of other teams (Lake Elsinore Storm, Fresno Grizzlies). Does anyone know if it was designed by the same firm?

  • Patrick | November 29, 2007 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”179060″][quote comment=”179055″]

    Phillies New Unis[/quote]

    Hmm, gets a shrug from me. Not really an improvement over what they have, but not bad. Just feels like a “what’s the point” kind of thing.[/quote]

    Really? I think those are a HUGE improvement over the Phillies regular uni’s, which to me are mediocre at best. I wish they’d use these full time.

  • Evan | November 29, 2007 at 1:01 pm |

    Footlocker has a 30% off online code
    EM357CLC use it to save 30% on all purchases or printable coupon for in store
    Hope this helps for your holiday purchases

  • timmy b | November 29, 2007 at 1:04 pm |

    i think – at least in years past – nhl teams were issued 2 sets of uniforms a year. if you made the playoffs, 3 sets a season. you can notice subtle changes a team would make on the second set. i remember the penguins changing their crest midway thru 71-72, changing from a screen on logo and numerals to sewn on crest and numerals in 88-89, nameplate changes for other teams, etc.

    as for the playoffs, i recall the black hawks (as they were referred to at that time) adding outline color trim to their numbers in 1973, les canadiens changing the neck trim for the 77 playoffs, and the maple leafs totally changing their look for the 67 playoffs.

    so, it was a fresh set to start the season, a new batch roughly around the all-star break, and if you made the playoffs, another new set.

  • Smail | November 29, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”179062″]The Fisher Cats logos have a lot of elements of other teams (Lake Elsinore Storm, Fresno Grizzlies). Does anyone know if it was designed by the same firm?[/quote]

    Just beat me to it! The eyes alt logo is a complete rip from the Lake Elsinore team. The LE hats with the eyes logo are one of the best selling pieces of minor league apparel, and it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s just a money grab.

  • Original Jim | November 29, 2007 at 1:12 pm |

    Rickabaugh Graphics designed the new Fisher Cats identity.

  • Broker75 | November 29, 2007 at 1:21 pm |

    In last nights Raptors | Grizzlies matchup the theme was spanish night in Toronto, but the Raptors did not wear their spanish uniforms, instead they wore their regulars-..weird. During the pre-season the Raptors were in Spain promoting the NBA and wore their uniforms reflecting the colors from the flag of Spain [as was noted by Uni Watch a few months back].

  • Sean | November 29, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”178950″]I don’t know if they do it for every game, but I also noticed during the Arizona State game that the little arrows painted next to the yardline numbers were little pitchforks, and the 5 in the 50’s on the fifty yard line had little devil horns and a devil tail.[/quote]

    They have been doing this all year… but I don’t know about previous years. I pointed this out a few weeks ago, but I haven’t been able to find a decent picture of it. You find anything, Greg?

  • ryan c #40 | November 29, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    “Team colors could be solid black and white with lots of stripes, black and white may be boring to some but it’s better than some of todays “new” colors that push the HD factor?”

    first off, those are zebra colors, not gazelles… secondly, do you really want a team to look like the refs??????????

  • Jason Axel | November 29, 2007 at 1:26 pm |

    Fresno Grizzlies unveiling their new logo and uniforms at 3 eastern (noon pacific)…should be interesting…looks like they may be leaning towards more oranage and black…

  • Eliot | November 29, 2007 at 1:28 pm |

    here in central texas, the unicorn is the mascot of new braunfels high school, but they don’t have a horn on their helmet unfortunately.

  • James P. | November 29, 2007 at 1:28 pm |

    Hey, Paul! Jose Cruz Jr. has signed a contract with the Astros and will be invited to Spring Training next year. The Astros might actually have a strups wearer and not just another high-socks wearer next year!

  • TOG | November 29, 2007 at 1:28 pm |

    Rickabaugh Graphics designed the new Fisher Cats identity.

    I would expect better from Eric’s team.

  • Colin | November 29, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”179021″]Ahhhh its not a reindeer, at least in north america…its a caribou! Reindeer are domesticated caribou.[/quote]

    A team could still be named the Reindeer. Mascots don’t have to be wild animals. Teams nicknamed the Bulldogs are a perfect example.

  • Dwight | November 29, 2007 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”179074″]Hey, Paul! Jose Cruz Jr. has signed a contract with the Astros and will be invited to Spring Training next year. The Astros might actually have a strups wearer and not just another high-socks wearer next year![/quote]

    See Post #3

  • Thomps | November 29, 2007 at 1:31 pm |

    You can find the First an 10 Bulls helmet on this page.

    Also, check out the rest of MG’s helmets for awesome concept helmets and a ton of High School helmets from around the country.

  • Terry | November 29, 2007 at 1:33 pm |

    But do you (anyone?) remember unique situations akin to Young’s?

    Tony Boselli was THE face of the Houston Texans for the first year or so, but he never played a down (ultimately contributing to the David Carr you see today)

  • Broker75 | November 29, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”179071″]”Team colors could be solid black and white with lots of stripes, black and white may be boring to some but it’s better than some of todays “new” colors that push the HD factor?”

    first off, those are zebra colors, not gazelles… secondly, do you really want a team to look like the refs??????????[/quote]
    ok ok!, coloured brown and white with a distinguishing black stripe. sheesh

  • Brian | November 29, 2007 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”179063″][quote comment=”179060″][quote comment=”179055″]

    Phillies New Unis[/quote]

    Hmm, gets a shrug from me. Not really an improvement over what they have, but not bad. Just feels like a “what’s the point” kind of thing.[/quote]

    Really? I think those are a HUGE improvement over the Phillies regular uni’s, which to me are mediocre at best. I wish they’d use these full time.[/quote]

    Agreed. I’m about done with their usual pinstripes…

  • Kim | November 29, 2007 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”179063″][quote comment=”179060″][quote comment=”179055″]

    Phillies New Unis[/quote]

    Hmm, gets a shrug from me. Not really an improvement over what they have, but not bad. Just feels like a “what’s the point” kind of thing.[/quote]

    Really? I think those are a HUGE improvement over the Phillies regular uni’s, which to me are mediocre at best. I wish they’d use these full time.[/quote]

    I love the current pinstripes and greys, and these are a good compliment to those. There’s continuity between the three designs, and the alts are going to be used for home day games.

    What does that mean? Well, since the new alts are Cool Base jerseys, that means the Cool Base pinstripe jerseys may go away, which will mean no lame white underarm patch in a pinstriped shirt.

  • Kim | November 29, 2007 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”179070″][quote comment=”178950″]I don’t know if they do it for every game, but I also noticed during the Arizona State game that the little arrows painted next to the yardline numbers were little pitchforks, and the 5 in the 50’s on the fifty yard line had little devil horns and a devil tail.[/quote]

    They have been doing this all year… but I don’t know about previous years. I pointed this out a few weeks ago, but I haven’t been able to find a decent picture of it. You find anything, Greg?[/quote]

    They’ve done it since the resumed their role as primary tenants in their own stadium (Cards and Fiesta Bowl have moved across the Valley).

  • Jim | November 29, 2007 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”179076″][quote comment=”179021″]Ahhhh its not a reindeer, at least in north america…its a caribou! Reindeer are domesticated caribou.[/quote]

    A team could still be named the Reindeer. Mascots don’t have to be wild animals. Teams nicknamed the Bulldogs are a perfect example.[/quote]
    I was referring to the picture he linked to. He linked to a picture of a caribou.

  • LI Phil | November 29, 2007 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”179081″][quote comment=”179071″]”Team colors could be solid black and white with lots of stripes, black and white may be boring to some but it’s better than some of todays “new” colors that push the HD factor?”

    first off, those are zebra colors, not gazelles… secondly, do you really want a team to look like the refs??????????[/quote]
    ok ok!, coloured brown and white with a distinguishing black stripe. sheesh[/quote]

    sheesh…don’t post something that looks like an appetizer for gods sake…i know you were trying to show colors (colours) but geewhilickers

    how about this or this for a design concept

  • Broker75 | November 29, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”179096″][quote comment=”179081″][quote comment=”179071″]”Team colors could be solid black and white with lots of stripes, black and white may be boring to some but it’s better than some of todays “new” colors that push the HD factor?”

    first off, those are zebra colors, not gazelles… secondly, do you really want a team to look like the refs??????????[/quote]
    ok ok!, coloured brown and white with a distinguishing black stripe. sheesh[/quote]

    sheesh…don’t post something that looks like an appetizer for gods sake…i know you were trying to show colors (colours) but geewhilickers

    how about this or this for a design concept[/quote]
    your second photo rocks, how bout that for a logo.

  • Rob B | November 29, 2007 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”179089″][quote comment=”179063″][quote comment=”179060″][quote comment=”179055″]

    Phillies New Unis[/quote]

    Hmm, gets a shrug from me. Not really an improvement over what they have, but not bad. Just feels like a “what’s the point” kind of thing.[/quote]

    Really? I think those are a HUGE improvement over the Phillies regular uni’s, which to me are mediocre at best. I wish they’d use these full time.[/quote]

    I love the current pinstripes and greys, and these are a good compliment to those. There’s continuity between the three designs, and the alts are going to be used for home day games.

    What does that mean? Well, since the new alts are Cool Base jerseys, that means the Cool Base pinstripe jerseys may go away, which will mean no lame white underarm patch in a pinstriped shirt.[/quote]

    Very good point.

    The concept drawing showed no socks because Only Moyer show socks. On the intro was anyone showing socks? Were they blue like the late 40s the Uni gives a nod to or red to match the shoes?

  • zach | November 29, 2007 at 2:23 pm |

    I love the uniwatch hivemind. As soon as Paul says: “I wish more teams would do tweaks like this.”, I immediately thought of the Jaguars santa hat.

    And lo and behold, it’s the first post in the comments section.

  • Jarrod | November 29, 2007 at 2:25 pm |

    Did everyone see this!!! http://www.packers.c...

  • James P. | November 29, 2007 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”179077″][quote comment=”179074″]Hey, Paul! Jose Cruz Jr. has signed a contract with the Astros and will be invited to Spring Training next year. The Astros might actually have a strups wearer and not just another high-socks wearer next year![/quote]

    See Post #3[/quote]

    You mean Post #4…and when I searched for “Cruz” and nothing came up, I didn’t know anyone had posted the news.

  • Rob B | November 29, 2007 at 2:43 pm |

    More pics of Phillies Uni

    Phill.com
    In pic three I think I can see some red.

    Beerleaguer 11-29-07

  • Pat | November 29, 2007 at 2:46 pm |

    LOVE the new Phillies alts. I just wish that instead of giving us the faux pull-over look with the trim around the collar and nothing down the buttons they would have gone with an actual pullover. Nothing was better, to me, than the days of the pullover baseball jerseys.

  • Kim | November 29, 2007 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”179108″]More pics of Phillies Uni

    Phill.com
    In pic three I think I can see some red.

    [/quote]

    Thank goodness the Inquirer brought a camera equipped cell phone.

  • LI Phil | November 29, 2007 at 2:59 pm |

    the phil’s uni article describes the new duds thusly:

    [quote]A clean-looking cream-colored jersey will be worn with pants in the same color, featuring a red-and-blue stripe on the outside seam and a wide red belt.[/quote]

    WTF is a “clean-looking cream-colored” jersey? Is there such thing as “dirty-looking” cream (and, if so…i highly doubt it would ever be part of an official color palatte)

    adjectivally challenged reporters are teh suck

  • Tony B | November 29, 2007 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”179079″]But do you (anyone?) remember unique situations akin to Young’s?

    Tony Boselli was THE face of the Houston Texans for the first year or so, but he never played a down (ultimately contributing to the David Carr you see today)[/quote]
    What was Tony Danza’s characters name in “Who’s the Boss”?

  • FEZ WHATLEY | November 29, 2007 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”179111″]
    Thank goodness the Inquirer brought a camera equipped cell phone.[/quote]
    Line of the Day…

  • Pat | November 29, 2007 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”179110″]LOVE the new Phillies alts. I just wish that instead of giving us the faux pull-over look with the trim around the collar and nothing down the buttons they would have gone with an actual pullover. Nothing was better, to me, than the days of the pullover baseball jerseys.[/quote]

    It’s not a “faux pull-over”. The jerseys from the late 40’s had that trim around the collar.

  • Mad Adam | November 29, 2007 at 3:18 pm |

    I believe throwbacks have to be approved by the NFL ahead of time, and the teams have to designate what games will feature the uniform. The NFL won’t allow a “surprise” uniform, like Notre Dame coming out in green. Teams have to get special approval to wear a throwback more than originally intended, like the 49ers did in 1994.

    I do believe that the jersey color is the only preapproved part of the uniform. I recall a couple of years ago on a monday night game the Broncos warmed up in blue jerseys and white pants. When they returned to the field to start the game, they were wearing blue over blue.

  • Philly Bill | November 29, 2007 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”179089″][quote comment=”179063″][quote comment=”179060″][quote comment=”179055″]

    Phillies New Unis[/quote]

    Hmm, gets a shrug from me. Not really an improvement over what they have, but not bad. Just feels like a “what’s the point” kind of thing.[/quote]

    Really? I think those are a HUGE improvement over the Phillies regular uni’s, which to me are mediocre at best. I wish they’d use these full time.[/quote]

    I love the current pinstripes and greys, and these are a good compliment to those. There’s continuity between the three designs, and the alts are going to be used for home day games.

    What does that mean? Well, since the new alts are Cool Base jerseys, that means the Cool Base pinstripe jerseys may go away, which will mean no lame white underarm patch in a pinstriped shirt.[/quote]

    During the press conference, the MC said that the Phils would be the first MLB team to use the Cool Base for all their uniforms.

  • Henry | November 29, 2007 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”179004″][quote comment=”178980″]If the Cowboys are going throwback, the Pack should surprise them with a ’67 throwback of their own.[/quote]

    Yeah, I’m sure they can get that done by 7:15 tonight. Maybe there’s a memorabilia shop in Dallas that happens to have enough to outfit the whole team…

    I believe throwbacks have to be approved by the NFL ahead of time, and the teams have to designate what games will feature the uniform. The NFL won’t allow a “surprise” uniform, like Notre Dame coming out in green. Teams have to get special approval to wear a throwback more than originally intended, like the 49ers did in 1994.[/quote]

    Maybe things have changed, but the rules are less stringent in the CFL… I believe it was 1994 when the Calgary Stampeders (lead by Doug Flutie at the time) warmed up for the Annual Labour Day Classic game against the arch-rival Edmonton Eskimos. The team warmed up in the standard red jerseys, but when they returned to the locker room, there were bad-azz black jerseys hanging in their stalls. There was even a patch on the sleeves with a pair of guns and the slogan “quidquid requitur” (sp?), which is Latin for “Whatever it takes”. Needless to say, their appearance suprised everyone in the stadium, and they went on to beat the hated Eskimos.

    A few additional notes – I could be wrong but I think they might be the first pro football team to have an alternate jersey. They wore the blacks each year during the Labour Day Game until 1998, when they started wearing them in the playoffs as well. During that time they went undefeated in black, culminating with the 1998 Grey Cup Champtionship (lead by Jeff Garcia). The 1996 Labour Day Game was also Jeff Garcia’s first CFL start; he threw for 6 TD’s that game while in black.

  • kj | November 29, 2007 at 3:24 pm |

    Currently watching the UEFA Cup match between Tottenham Hotspur (Eng) and Aalborg BK (Den) from White Hart Lane. Aalborg are wearing all-black kits rather than their primary red/white stripes, since Spurs wear white as their primary kit.

    Looks like their shirts have a big block of black tape or something over the right breast area. Looking at their primary kits, I’m guessing it’s the logo that goes with their sponsor, Spar Nord.

    Now, UEFA has restrictions on sponsors for UEFA competitions–for starters, I believe there can only be one sponsor on the kit. Interesting that they would have to cover the logo part, but not the wordmark, of their primary shirt sponsor.

  • john | November 29, 2007 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”179114″][quote comment=”179079″]But do you (anyone?) remember unique situations akin to Young’s?

    Tony Boselli was THE face of the Houston Texans for the first year or so, but he never played a down (ultimately contributing to the David Carr you see today)[/quote]
    What was Tony Danza’s characters name in “Who’s the Boss”?[/quote]

    Tony Micelli

  • Marty Met | November 29, 2007 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”179061″]The double-A New Hampshire Fisher Cats have unveiled their new uniforms and logo designs, which you can see in this PDF file. Naturally, I like the color scheme and the vertically arched road-jersey insignia, but the rest of the design looks painfully rinky-dink.

    Suck is too nice a word.

    Minor League Manure strikes again…Doghsit…oppps that’s a cat? Catshit?

    Did the in-house designers at Fisher Nuts do this mark? Appears so. OMG!!!

    http://images.google...

    I like it. I guess everyone here would rather they went to B-O-R-I-N-G navy pinstripes with an interlocking FC. and that new Phillies uniform is UGLY. They NEED to go back to the maroon and baby blue of the 70’s

  • Justin B | November 29, 2007 at 3:38 pm |

    I couldn’t find a still frame of the discussion earlier on the ASU game with the turkey or pitchforks. However on ESPN, the recap shows video shows the turkey, the pitchforks, and the pitchfork made into an “e” in “sun devils” in the end zone. (I know un-uni related, but there was discussion about it earlier.)

  • ryan c #40 | November 29, 2007 at 3:39 pm |

    ““Team colors could be solid black and white with lots of stripes, black and white may be boring to some but it’s better than some of todays “new” colors that push the HD factor?”

    first off, those are zebra colors, not gazelles… secondly, do you really want a team to look like the refs??????????

    ok ok!, coloured brown and white with a distinguishing black stripe. sheesh”

    … ok, ok, i’ll give you that… until the first time they play the lions or tigers. haha. then it doesnt seem like such a great name… my opinion though!!! haha

  • Perry | November 29, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”178965″][quote comment=”178962″]Can’t someone find it out there? There has to be a high school out that that is called the Fighting Purple Possums![/quote]

    If we can find someone with a documented fear of Tornadoes (Lilapsophobia- technically the fear of tornadoes and/or hurricanes), and purple, I’ve got them covered with the Norwich (NY) High School Purple Tornado. Yes, they’ve gone out in all-purple on more than one occasion (In fact, that is the home uniform for the football team. Purple shirt, white numbering, purple pants, purple socks, purple helmet with white lettering) I myself, in my younger and more foolish days, before I was educated to the ways of uniform wisdom, took to the soccer field clad in all purple. I ask for all your forgiveness for this transgression.[/quote]

    My high school was the Lancaster (OH) Golden Gales. Colors purple and gold, and had tornados on the helmets.

  • joe | November 29, 2007 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”179112″]the phil’s uni article describes the new duds thusly:

    [quote]A clean-looking cream-colored jersey will be worn with pants in the same color, featuring a red-and-blue stripe on the outside seam and a wide red belt.[/quote]

    WTF is a “clean-looking cream-colored” jersey? Is there such thing as “dirty-looking” cream (and, if so…i highly doubt it would ever be part of an official color palatte)

    adjectivally challenged reporters are teh suck[/quote]
    maybe its correctly referring to the fact its a clean unclutterd by pinstripes look.

  • jon | November 29, 2007 at 3:58 pm |

    i’m not sure how to add a link, but add the old alma mater into the nose bumper logos. at ohio university they have “CATS” on them, or at least did when i was there.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | November 29, 2007 at 3:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”178934″]It seems that the Cowboy’s unique-ness even extends to their locker room. Whenever I see a Cowboy’s player being interviewed on TV in front of his locker, I know what team it is by the font of the player’s name on the locker.

    I don’t know how long they have used this particular font for this purpose. I will be interested to see if they carry it over to the lockers in their new stadium.[/quote]

    ive always thought of that font as “dukes of hazzard” font…

  • Mike Engle | November 29, 2007 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”179085″][quote comment=”179063″][quote comment=”179060″][quote comment=”179055″]

    Phillies New Unis[/quote]

    Hmm, gets a shrug from me. Not really an improvement over what they have, but not bad. Just feels like a “what’s the point” kind of thing.[/quote]

    Really? I think those are a HUGE improvement over the Phillies regular uni’s, which to me are mediocre at best. I wish they’d use these full time.[/quote]

    Agreed. I’m about done with their usual pinstripes…[/quote]
    I think the red pinstripes look stupid. To me, they look like candy canes. But I LOVE the Phillies’ road grays. The cream whites are pretty cool too, even though it doesn’t look like they have sleeve numbers.
    Speaking of numbers, do the alternates have the same typography on the back as the other uniforms? And what about color? All red? Red with blue outline? Something else?

  • Broker75 | November 29, 2007 at 4:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”179123″][quote comment=”179114″][quote comment=”179079″]But do you (anyone?) remember unique situations akin to Young’s?

    Tony Boselli was THE face of the Houston Texans for the first year or so, but he never played a down (ultimately contributing to the David Carr you see today)[/quote]
    What was Tony Danza’s characters name in “Who’s the Boss”?[/quote]

    Tony Micelli[/quote]
    (in a Brooklyn accent)”Who’s the Boss will be back in a moment, stick around” haha I always laughed at that..If I remember correctly in the opening of the show (the song) Tony had on a blue Cardinals uniform..or maybe white, who knows there is no more re-runs.

  • Broker75 | November 29, 2007 at 4:23 pm |

    ahh Mets fans, are you aware that the latest rumour is Reyes for Santana??? just rumours but seems shocking..Santana would look good in a Giants uniform

  • LI Phil | November 29, 2007 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”179137″]maybe its correctly referring to the fact its a clean unclutterd by pinstripes look.[/quote]

    i spose in that context, if one looks upon the current phillies uni as “unclean” (cluttered), the description fits

    i never thought to view a uni as cluttered (unclean? dirty?…what’s the opposite of clean-looking…ah…uncluttered) if it had pinstripes…fair enough…but, i forgot, this is uniwatch

    /pinstripes=clutter

  • LI Phil | November 29, 2007 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”179144″]Santana would look good in a Giants uniform[/quote]

    maybe they can trade zito for him

  • Mike Engle | November 29, 2007 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”179144″]ahh Mets fans, are you aware that the latest rumour is Reyes for Santana??? just rumours but seems shocking..Santana would look good in a Giants uniform[/quote]
    If Santana were to get traded to the Giants, would that mitigate the Boof, Nathan, and Liriano for Pierzynski trade?

  • Philly Bill | November 29, 2007 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”179140″][quote comment=”179085″][quote comment=”179063″][quote comment=”179060″][quote comment=”179055″]

    Phillies New Unis[/quote]

    Hmm, gets a shrug from me. Not really an improvement over what they have, but not bad. Just feels like a “what’s the point” kind of thing.[/quote]

    Really? I think those are a HUGE improvement over the Phillies regular uni’s, which to me are mediocre at best. I wish they’d use these full time.[/quote]

    Agreed. I’m about done with their usual pinstripes…[/quote]
    I think the red pinstripes look stupid. To me, they look like candy canes. But I LOVE the Phillies’ road grays. The cream whites are pretty cool too, even though it doesn’t look like they have sleeve numbers.
    Speaking of numbers, do the alternates have the same typography on the back as the other uniforms? And what about color? All red? Red with blue outline? Something else?[/quote]

    The new uni’s won’t have sleave numbers – they’re trying to stay true to the 1947-49 look. Maybe this will help the Phils, they’ve always had a good year shortly after changing their look.
    1950 – Changed to all red – won pennant.
    1971 – Changed to maroon – best decade in franchise history, capped by the World Series win in 1980.
    1992 – Went to current look – won 1993 pennant.

  • Frankie | November 29, 2007 at 4:41 pm |

    Nice to see the Giants fans out there. Any updates on the new Grizzlies uniforms/logos yet? I keep checking their site, but nothing yet. Overall, I despised their old look, excluding their brown alternate hat with the grizzly face on it… one of my favorite hats in my collection.

  • Justin | November 29, 2007 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”179054″][quote comment=”179048″][quote comment=”179020″][quote comment=”179012″]Great column on the nose bumpers Paul. Something I noticed is that at some point, the nose bumper lost its primary function. Look at the difference between these two images. and then this (sorry if I messed up the coding) When did the change occur?

    Steve B[/quote]

    Sorry

    Useful

    Not so useful[/quote]

    I would think that if the purpose of the nose bumper was to prevent the face mask from being rotated up into a players nose, that after the face masks started being fastened to the top of the helmet as well that it reduced the functionality of the nose bumper.[/quote]

    Not quite. From Lukas’ article:
    opposing players would often grab onto the mask and pivot the helmet forward, with unfortunate results for the bridge of a player’s nose.
    That is to say that the problem was that when the mask was pulled down, the top edge of the helmet (where the bumper is now) would get slammed into the players nose. The bumper made it a little softer when this happened.[/quote]

    Guess you’re right. I guess I read that one

  • Amber | November 29, 2007 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”179045″]Any schools with the Bucks nickname go by the Does for womens athletics?[/quote]

    I don’t know about the bucks, but back in HS (in Central Illinois) we would play a team that had 4 mascosts: Colts (boys’ middle school team), Fillies (girls’ middle school team), the Mares (HS girls), and Stallions (HS boys).

    Sorry, I can’t find any pics, as I think this small school has consolidated with another school district.

  • Wyatt S. | November 29, 2007 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”178981″]The Mt. Lebanon Blue Devils (high school in Pittsburgh) have been using these vertical horns for years.[/quote]

    Haha, that’s where I go to school. I was just going to post that!

  • ID | November 29, 2007 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”179097″][quote comment=”179096″][quote comment=”179081″][quote comment=”179071″]”Team colors could be solid black and white with lots of stripes, black and white may be boring to some but it’s better than some of todays “new” colors that push the HD factor?”

    first off, those are zebra colors, not gazelles… secondly, do you really want a team to look like the refs??????????[/quote]
    ok ok!, coloured brown and white with a distinguishing black stripe. sheesh[/quote]

    sheesh…don’t post something that looks like an appetizer for gods sake…i know you were trying to show colors (colours) but geewhilickers

    how about this or this for a design concept[/quote]
    your second photo rocks, how bout that for a logo.[/quote]

    The South Africa Rugby team’s nickname is the Springboks . Complete with a jumping gazelle.

  • Dave Richards | November 29, 2007 at 5:17 pm |

    The double-A New Hampshire Fisher Cats have unveiled their new uniforms and logo designs, which you can see in this PDF file. Naturally, I like the color scheme and the vertically arched road-jersey insignia, but the rest of the design looks painfully rinky-dink.

    For what it’s worth, the PDF is in error — the Fisher Cats will be wearing black undershirts beneath their alternate vests.

    http://www.nhfisherc...

  • Joey | November 29, 2007 at 5:29 pm |

    Looking at the helmet designs compiled from movies and television here, I pose several questions:

    Check out the Dallas Knights helmet from “Any Given Sunday.” Has a real football team ever placed a logo on the front of its helmet?

    Check out the Jackie O First Ladies helmet from “Married With Children,” and I wonder if there has been any sports team (not women’s) that wears pink?

    My other question, not related to that site, is what is the Michigan helmet design meant to be?

  • Tony B | November 29, 2007 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”179141″][quote comment=”179123″][quote comment=”179114″][quote comment=”179079″]But do you (anyone?) remember unique situations akin to Young’s?

    Tony Boselli was THE face of the Houston Texans for the first year or so, but he never played a down (ultimately contributing to the David Carr you see today)[/quote]
    What was Tony Danza’s characters name in “Who’s the Boss”?[/quote]

    Tony Micelli[/quote]
    (in a Brooklyn accent)”Who’s the Boss will be back in a moment, stick around” haha I always laughed at that..If I remember correctly in the opening of the show (the song) Tony had on a blue Cardinals uniform..or maybe white, who knows there is no more re-runs.[/quote]
    Yeah, but all I can remember is that he wore his Cards hat like an actor…not a ball player.

  • dreed | November 29, 2007 at 5:35 pm |

    University at buffalo had some awesome bulls horns on their helmets two years ago

  • dreed | November 29, 2007 at 5:36 pm |

  • Big O | November 29, 2007 at 5:46 pm |

    I noticed that the Packers paint the white pad on the back of the helmets that do not have the actual pad.

    Regular

    Painted
    Both

  • diz | November 29, 2007 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”179122″]Currently watching the UEFA Cup match between Tottenham Hotspur (Eng) and Aalborg BK (Den) from White Hart Lane. Aalborg are wearing all-black kits rather than their primary red/white stripes, since Spurs wear white as their primary kit.

    Looks like their shirts have a big block of black tape or something over the right breast area. Looking at their primary kits, I’m guessing it’s the logo that goes with their sponsor, Spar Nord.

    Now, UEFA has restrictions on sponsors for UEFA competitions–for starters, I believe there can only be one sponsor on the kit. Interesting that they would have to cover the logo part, but not the wordmark, of their primary shirt sponsor.[/quote]

    There’s probably limits on sponsors’ areas on kits in Europe. cf the SPL (page 123.)

  • Mike Engle | November 29, 2007 at 6:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”179170″]Looking at the helmet designs compiled from movies and television here, I pose several questions:

    Check out the Dallas Knights helmet from “Any Given Sunday.” Has a real football team ever placed a logo on the front of its helmet?

    Check out the Jackie O First Ladies helmet from “Married With Children,” and I wonder if there has been any sports team (not women’s) that wears pink?

    My other question, not related to that site, is what is the Michigan helmet design meant to be?[/quote]
    The Michigan “design” reflects how leather helmets were constructed. The Michigan coach (who also coached Princeton and would eventually coach Delaware) introduced the two-tone leather helmet so that the quarterback could easily distinguish his receivers. (No offense, but this should be a new FAQ, along with the Buccaneers’ practice font and the green dot. Anybody care to update the FAQ’s?)

  • Kevin G. | November 29, 2007 at 6:04 pm |

    Rob Neyer has a column today that talks about the Royals and Blue Jays wearing their new powder blue unis for occasional home games next year.

  • Rob B | November 29, 2007 at 6:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”179140″][quote comment=”179085″][quote comment=”179063″][quote comment=”179060″][quote comment=”179055″]

    Phillies New Unis[/quote]

    Hmm, gets a shrug from me. Not really an improvement over what they have, but not bad. Just feels like a “what’s the point” kind of thing.[/quote]

    Really? I think those are a HUGE improvement over the Phillies regular uni’s, which to me are mediocre at best. I wish they’d use these full time.[/quote]

    Agreed. I’m about done with their usual pinstripes…[/quote]
    I think the red pinstripes look stupid. To me, they look like candy canes. But I LOVE the Phillies’ road grays. The cream whites are pretty cool too, even though it doesn’t look like they have sleeve numbers.
    Speaking of numbers, do the alternates have the same typography on the back as the other uniforms? And what about color? All red? Red with blue outline? Something else?[/quote]

    Looks like the back numbers and names are the same.

  • Tom | November 29, 2007 at 6:36 pm |

    Check out this shot of the Cowboys not only wearing blue against the Rams of all people, but also the pants seem to almost be the same color as the ones the Titans wear now.

  • Bill Fenbers | November 29, 2007 at 6:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”178951″]Don’t know if anyone else noticed this, but in that ASU-USC game on Thanksgiving Night, the arrows next to the numbers on the yard lines (40, 30 etc) were actually little pitchforks instead of arrows. Also, since the 50 is the middle of the field (and doesn’t have arrows)the 5 in the 50 had a devils tale (with a spike) on the end of it. I think this is great! Why don’t more teams do this? By the way, does anyone know why the arrows on the numbers are now required? They used to be optional in the NCAA, but now they are required. All those arrows do is point towards the nearest end zone. Is that so when you are watching the game on TV, you know which 30 yard line the offense is on (close to their end zone or their opponents)? It doesn’t make much sense to me, because the camera is usually panned back wide enough for you to see at least the next numbered yard line.[/quote]

    Does anyone know of another team than the Cincinnati Bearcat football team that uses a color other than white for the 50, 40 yard lines, etc??

    I know Boise State has blue turf, but Cincinnati is the only one I’ve seen with actual colored yard numbers.

  • Tom | November 29, 2007 at 6:37 pm |

    Drat, link didn’t go though, try this

  • Bill Fenbers | November 29, 2007 at 6:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”179183″][quote comment=”178951″]Don’t know if anyone else noticed this, but in that ASU-USC game on Thanksgiving Night, the arrows next to the numbers on the yard lines (40, 30 etc) were actually little pitchforks instead of arrows. Also, since the 50 is the middle of the field (and doesn’t have arrows)the 5 in the 50 had a devils tale (with a spike) on the end of it. I think this is great! Why don’t more teams do this? By the way, does anyone know why the arrows on the numbers are now required? They used to be optional in the NCAA, but now they are required. All those arrows do is point towards the nearest end zone. Is that so when you are watching the game on TV, you know which 30 yard line the offense is on (close to their end zone or their opponents)? It doesn’t make much sense to me, because the camera is usually panned back wide enough for you to see at least the next numbered yard line.[/quote]

    Does anyone know of another team than the Cincinnati Bearcat football team that uses a color other than white for the 50, 40 yard lines, etc??

    I know Boise State has blue turf, but Cincinnati is the only one I’ve seen with actual colored yard numbers.[/quote]

    Here’s a pic of Cincinnati’s yard numbers.

    http://i192.photobuc...

  • Tom | November 29, 2007 at 6:40 pm |

    Also Loyola University Chicago has new System of Dress duds, I think they look pretty sharp.

  • Andrew | November 29, 2007 at 7:07 pm |

    This may be a stupid question, but, considering that the bumpers were originally designed to protect players’ noses, and since virtually every facemask used in football today protects the nose on its own, why keep the bumper at all? I undertand that Riddell sees it as a perfect billboard, but is it only there for “tradition” (and marketing) sake? Plus, because most facemasks today have a bar that goes right across the bumper, even if a nose were to somehow come in contact with the bumper, it would hit the bar first (i’m sure that would hurt)! Anyway… just a thought.

  • dootie bubble | November 29, 2007 at 7:14 pm |

    #160, Wisconsin used to put the logo on the front of their helmets.

  • =bg= | November 29, 2007 at 7:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”178934″]It seems that the Cowboy’s unique-ness even extends to their locker room. Whenever I see a Cowboy’s player being interviewed on TV in front of his locker, I know what team it is by the font of the player’s name on the locker.

    I don’t know how long they have used this particular font for this purpose. I will be interested to see if they carry it over to the lockers in their new stadium.[/quote]

    absolutely right. i have noticed the same thing for years.

  • Frankie | November 29, 2007 at 7:31 pm |

    So I answered my own question. Here’s the new Fresno Grizzlies uniforms.

    This is the best link I could get because it won’t allow you to get to a better picture from their website. Something is screwy with their link.

    I like it better overall, but I wish they would have kept this hat and just changed it to match the new color scheme. Their new home and alternate hats, however, use this logo, but in orange instead of purple, which is what they used when they first moved from Phoenix to Fresno.

  • Frankie | November 29, 2007 at 7:33 pm |

    Sorry, forgot the first link…

    New Grizzlies Unis

  • Henry | November 29, 2007 at 7:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”179176″]I noticed that the Packers paint the white pad on the back of the helmets that do not have the actual pad.

    Regular

    Painted
    Both[/quote]

    It’s just a decal (which is placed on the pad where the Riddell logo would be), but you’re correct, they add it to the helmets without the pad as well (i.e. Schutt helmets).

    Some other teams used to do this (the Bears come to mind); I don’t recall if they still do…

    Some teams also use black nose bumpers (along with black jaw pads and black neck pad); the CFL’s Saskatchewan Roughriders do a hybrid style (white nose/jaw/neck pad, but black decals).

  • Henry | November 29, 2007 at 7:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”179170″]Looking at the helmet designs compiled from movies and television herequote]

    Great website… love the “South Park Cows” helmet!

  • LI Phil | November 29, 2007 at 7:56 pm |

    yeah…so…im one of the 98% of the nation that doesn’t get the NFL network…so im stuck watching the scarlet knights (in white) and the cardinals…who have donned the monochromatic black…sigh

    cardinals are usually red, right?…i know SCARLET is red (and yet…they too wear black for ‘special’ games)

    now…black is my favorite color…but it just bugs the shiat out of me when a team whose name either IS a color (royals, reds, scarlet knights) or is the color of the animal it uses as its symbol (blue jays, cardinals)…but somehow feels it necessary to don the black as a primary color

    /off rant
    //go pack

  • Jeff P | November 29, 2007 at 8:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”178970″]We’ve talked about teams wearing a logo from a team in a different sport (like the Admirals/Brewers) but this is a new one for me:

    Further proof that it’s always Red Sox season in New Hampshire: Fans attending Saturday’s American Hockey League game between the Manchester Monarchs and Rockford IceHogs will have their opportunity to have their picture taken with the 2007 World Series trophy…

    …Back on the ice, Monarchs players will wear jerseys adorned with the Red Sox 2007 World Series championship commemorative patch.

    [/quote]
    Not unprecedented. When the Hurricanes won the Stanley cup here in NC, they brought it to a Greensboro Grasshoppers baseball game. I was unfortunately out of town…

  • Original Jim | November 29, 2007 at 8:16 pm |

    Why the hell are the referees wearing the ski pants in the Dallas-Green Bay game?

    And the sleeve numbers on Dallas’ throwbacks do not match the serifed numbers on the front and back.

  • BuckeyeMark | November 29, 2007 at 8:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”179205″]Why the hell are the referees wearing the ski pants in the Dallas-Green Bay game?

    And the sleeve numbers on Dallas’ throwbacks do not match the serifed numbers on the front and back.[/quote]

    no idea – I live in a suburb of Dallas and it is a balmy 51 degress right now.

  • Jeffrey | November 29, 2007 at 8:25 pm |

    MaxPro was a helmet company in the 1970’s and into the early 80’s (Roger Stabach and Rany White of the Cowboys used them) that didn’t use a bumper or a label across the front of the helmet. They eventually put the MaxPro name across the front and even added a bumper in the last years of the company (84-86).

  • Oscar | November 29, 2007 at 8:27 pm |

    Plus both the Packers and Cowboys wearing huge #21 decals,i’ll post screencaps ASAP.

  • hott rodd | November 29, 2007 at 8:31 pm |

    look at the ‘boys socks!!! I’m so proud!!!!

  • Craig | November 29, 2007 at 8:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”179078″]You can find the First an 10 Bulls helmet on this page.

    Also, check out the rest of MG’s helmets for awesome concept helmets and a ton of High School helmets from around the country.[/quote]

    Sweet! Thanks

  • hott rodd | November 29, 2007 at 8:35 pm |

    #s look the same to me.. but that could just be me

  • Oscar | November 29, 2007 at 8:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”179211″]Plus both the Packers and Cowboys wearing huge #21 decals,i’ll post screencaps ASAP.[/quote]

    Here

    and here

  • Craig | November 29, 2007 at 8:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”179018″]there are numbers that the steelers won’t issue as well (12, 88, 75, etc.). thats a fact![/quote]

    Wasn’t Andre Hastings number 88??

  • hott rodd | November 29, 2007 at 8:45 pm |

    Looks like Julius Jones has a torn jersey already?

  • TD | November 29, 2007 at 8:46 pm |

    It’ll happen a bunch of times come Sunday, but not tonight: with Charles Woodson inactive and the Cowboys and Julius Jones not wearing helmet numbers, no double-21 helmet sticker-ness. Yet.

  • Matt Powers | November 29, 2007 at 8:48 pm |

    It seems that the Cowboy’s unique-ness even extends to their locker room. Whenever I see a Cowboy’s player being interviewed on TV in front of his locker, I know what team it is by the font of the player’s name on the locker.

    I don’t know how long they have used this particular font for this purpose. I will be interested to see if they carry it over to the lockers in their new stadium.

    ive always thought of that font as “dukes of hazzard” font…

    Isn’t it interesting that “The Dukes of Hazzard” aired right before “Dallas” with it’s opening credits shot of Texas Stadium during the 80’s!

  • sebastian | November 29, 2007 at 8:56 pm |

    If you want logos on the front of the helmet, Dartmouth rocks the front D.

  • Stevo | November 29, 2007 at 8:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”179190″]This may be a stupid question, but, considering that the bumpers were originally designed to protect players’ noses, and since virtually every facemask used in football today protects the nose on its own, why keep the bumper at all? I undertand that Riddell sees it as a perfect billboard, but is it only there for “tradition” (and marketing) sake? Plus, because most facemasks today have a bar that goes right across the bumper, even if a nose were to somehow come in contact with the bumper, it would hit the bar first (i’m sure that would hurt)! Anyway… just a thought.[/quote]

    The purpose of the nose bumper is to keep the nose from being cut up when the helmet gets pulled down, like when the face mask is grasped. It’s protecting the player wearing the helmet, not his opponent.

  • sebastian | November 29, 2007 at 8:58 pm |

    And as for the Cowboys player tags, the odds of them changing to a more.. say.. graphically appealing typeface is low because of tradition. But I for one think Hobo should be done away with.

  • Jason | November 29, 2007 at 9:02 pm |

    Roscoe Parrish to wear a #21 decal on Sunday vs the Redskins. I’d be surprised if the rest of the Bills didn’t have one too….

  • Stevo | November 29, 2007 at 9:10 pm |

    Just came across this while doing my usual Yahoo News scan. Haven’t been able to find any pics of the new duds yet.

  • Jason | November 29, 2007 at 9:14 pm |

    South Florida is one school with the Big East logo on the nose bumper.

  • Jason | November 29, 2007 at 9:19 pm |

    Back in the old days of Archbold Stadium, a fraternity at Syracuse used to shoot off a cannon after every TD. The practice was ended after some “mishaps”.

  • TD | November 29, 2007 at 9:20 pm |

    They announced on espn radio today that all teams will be wearing 21 stickers. Thus my point.

    Deion Sanders, sideline reporting for NFL Network, has one of the 21 stickers on his suit lapel. Deion, of course, wore 21 most of his career, both for the Cowboys and with the Redkins before Sean Taylor did.

  • Dave A | November 29, 2007 at 9:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”179022″]Paul,

    When the Tampa Bay Rays unveiled their new unis, they had players parade them to the public, including Delmon Young:

    http://www.sptimes.c...

    So now that Young’s a Twin, he’ll never wear that on the field. So the question is, has any other player worn a team’s uniform for publicity purposes, but never in game action?

    I know that with the recent sweeping NHL changes, we saw a lot of this:

    http://cdn.nhl.com/i...

    But do you (anyone?) remember unique situations akin to Young’s?

    Thanks![/quote]

    Mike Sirotka with the 2001 Blue Jays. Signed in the off-season, wore the jersey for press pics at the signing and never pitched again because of a torn labrum. IIRC, someone on ebay was flogging a Jays Sirotka jersey as a game worn about a year ago.

  • Jason | November 29, 2007 at 9:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”179228″]South Florida is one school with the Big East logo on the nose bumper.[/quote]

    Also, if you zoom in on the SU quarterback, you can find a few unique things. One, on his wrist he has a wristband with “Orange” on it. Two, looking at his helmet, you can see an “S” on the foam part sticking out the back. Not sure if that’s for Syracuse or the helmet company. And third, the flag decal on the back of his helmet is made to look like it’s waving in the wind. I’ve actually never seen it like that before…

  • Stevo | November 29, 2007 at 9:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”179232″][quote comment=”179228″]South Florida is one school with the Big East logo on the nose bumper.[/quote]

    Also, if you zoom in on the SU quarterback, you can find a few unique things. One, on his wrist he has a wristband with “Orange” on it. Two, looking at his helmet, you can see an “S” on the foam part sticking out the back. Not sure if that’s for Syracuse or the helmet company. And third, the flag decal on the back of his helmet is made to look like it’s waving in the wind. I’ve actually never seen it like that before…[/quote]

    That’s definitely a Schutt S on the back of his helmet.

  • Bryan Widell | November 29, 2007 at 9:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”179166″]The double-A New Hampshire Fisher Cats have unveiled their new uniforms and logo designs, which you can see in this PDF file. Naturally, I like the color scheme and the vertically arched road-jersey insignia, but the rest of the design looks painfully rinky-dink.

    For what it’s worth, the PDF is in error — the Fisher Cats will be wearing black undershirts beneath their alternate vests.

    http://www.nhfisherc...
    That’s odd. I’m the person who sent that info in, the PDF file was what I received in a newsletter from the FisherCats.

  • Jim | November 29, 2007 at 9:57 pm |

    Cowboys/Packers – refs wearing the hideous black pants…. truly offensive

  • =bg= | November 29, 2007 at 10:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”179230″]They announced on espn radio today that all teams will be wearing 21 stickers. Thus my point.

    Deion Sanders, sideline reporting for NFL Network, has one of the 21 stickers on his suit lapel. Deion, of course, wore 21 most of his career, both for the Cowboys and with the Redkins before Sean Taylor did.[/quote]

    Friggin’ NFL Network. Huge Cowboys fan and I am reduced to having a tab for Fox Sports game tracker open on the browser. Pathetic.

  • Jim | November 29, 2007 at 10:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”179180″]Rob Neyer has a column today that talks about the Royals and Blue Jays wearing their new powder blue unis for occasional home games next year.[/quote]

    Confirmed on Sportsnet here in Canada that the Jays will wear the powder blues for some home games. Sweet…

    http://jaysshop.stor...Jerseys

  • Stevo | November 29, 2007 at 11:36 pm |

    I was watching the Boys-Pack game on nfl.com and I saw that looked like little strips of black tape above the right earholes on some of the players’ helmets. I wasn’t bale to get a great look, but it looked to me like it was being worn by only defensive players. Is this another subtle tribute to Taylor? Some hidden message from the Communist Party? Is it just late in the evening and I’m seeing things?

  • shaylen | November 29, 2007 at 11:38 pm |

    not uni-relatedthe cowboys packers game was available to stream for free on nfl.com sorry for the late notice

  • Tom H | November 29, 2007 at 11:42 pm |

    Also watching the Packers/Cowboys game tonight, and noticed Aaron Rodgers sporting the old school/Brett Favre style chin strap. He had also seem to have the “Tug ‘O Shame” down just like #4 as well. Does he typically wear the old style strap? Sorry if this has already been discussed, I just logged on and didn’t go through all the comments.

  • Patrick | November 29, 2007 at 11:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”179198″]Sorry, forgot the first link…

    New Grizzlies Unis[/quote]
    Holy crap! How about an audio warning? Damn near scared the pi$$ out of me! My dog wanted to attack the monitor!

  • Patrick | November 29, 2007 at 11:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”179244″]not uni-relatedthe cowboys packers game was available to stream for free on nfl.com sorry for the late notice[/quote]

    Does the NFL do this for every game on NFL Network or was this just a one-time thing? BTW, the Cowboys should make those unis permanent!

  • Johnny O | November 29, 2007 at 11:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”179236″]Cowboys/Packers – refs wearing the hideous black pants…. truly offensive[/quote]

    How in the world can the refs be wearing cold weather gear? Their should be rules against that. It’s currently 53 at 11:00 CT. Ridiculous.

  • Broker75 | November 30, 2007 at 12:16 am |

    [quote comment=”179249″][quote comment=”179236″]Cowboys/Packers – refs wearing the hideous black pants…. truly offensive[/quote]

    How in the world can the refs be wearing cold weather gear? Their should be rules against that. It’s currently 53 at 11:00 CT. Ridiculous.[/quote]
    Maybe one of the refs forgot his white pants..? and they were forced to go with the black, we need a uni beat reporter

  • =bg= | November 30, 2007 at 12:17 am |

    [quote comment=”179244″]not uni-relatedthe cowboys packers game was available to stream for free on nfl.com sorry for the late notice[/quote]

    It WAS? ACK.
    Well, all I have to say is…..how bout dem Cowboys. (That, and man is Romo the real deal or what. That dude can play.)

  • LI Phil | November 30, 2007 at 12:21 am |

    texas stadium will no longer be vending buttered popcorn

  • Suckerpunch | November 30, 2007 at 12:38 am |

    When was the last time a road team wore white in Texas Stadium???

  • u2horn | November 30, 2007 at 12:58 am |

    [quote comment=”179254″]When was the last time a road team wore white in Texas Stadium???[/quote]
    Last Thanksgiving.

  • Frankie | November 30, 2007 at 2:03 am |

    [quote comment=”179246″][quote comment=”179198″]Sorry, forgot the first link…

    New Grizzlies Unis[/quote]
    Holy crap! How about an audio warning? Damn near scared the pi$$ out of me! My dog wanted to attack the monitor![/quote]

    Haha… couldn’t give you a warning because I keep the sound on my laptop off so it doesn’t disrupt anyone in my classes.

  • todd krevanchi | November 30, 2007 at 2:16 am |

    [quote comment=”179186″]Also Loyola University Chicago has new System of Dress duds, I think they look pretty sharp.[/quote]

    im curious how much michael jordan had/has to do with this school having nikes highest uni technology. jeffrey was a top recruit for loyola last year prior to selecting to walk on at illinois.

  • SWW | November 30, 2007 at 4:55 am |

    I was doing some reminiscing, and came across this, which I thought was kind of interesting.

    http://www.hartfordw...

    Also, I’m not sure if it is a rumor or the truth (I would lean toward the truth), but apparently the State of Connecticut owns the rights to the Hartford Whalers brand. Explains why they are not in any video games as alternate jerseys or out there as ‘retro’ apparel.

  • David G. | November 30, 2007 at 6:08 am |

    [quote comment=”179122″]Currently watching the UEFA Cup match between Tottenham Hotspur (Eng) and Aalborg BK (Den) from White Hart Lane. Aalborg are wearing all-black kits rather than their primary red/white stripes, since Spurs wear white as their primary kit.

    Looks like their shirts have a big block of black tape or something over the right breast area. Looking at their primary kits, I’m guessing it’s the logo that goes with their sponsor, Spar Nord.

    Now, UEFA has restrictions on sponsors for UEFA competitions–for starters, I believe there can only be one sponsor on the kit. Interesting that they would have to cover the logo part, but not the wordmark, of their primary shirt sponsor.[/quote]

    There are a few other restrictions UEFA makes as well. UEFA regulations forbid teams playing each other to wear the same sponsor’s logo. Arsenal and Hamburg ran into this problem in the Champions League last year, and each club had to change their shirt sponsor, they chose the word Dubai when playing their away leg. Also, for any Champions League matches played at Arsenal’s home pitch (Emirates Stadium), the name of the stadium has to be changed (“Arsenal Stadium”) due to the fact that Fly Emirates is not an official UEFA Champions League sponsor.

  • David G. | November 30, 2007 at 6:11 am |

  • ryan c #40 | November 30, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    good shot of a FNOB here:

    http://flickr.com/ph...

  • Tyler Hale | November 30, 2007 at 3:03 pm |

    i was checking out the michigan high school helmet project and i found another type of horned helmet. Check out the leroy pine river stags. also check out the vandercook lake jayhawks.they have a cut in half “motion W” to make a “v” with the pillidelphia eagles head over it. im a little biased because its my alma mater, but i think they are toatlly boss

  • Gorgonzola | December 1, 2007 at 7:43 pm |

    The thought of a team in any sport involving helmets (football, hockey, even baseball) with a unicorn horn on their helmets, or even the nickname “Unicorns”, nearly made me pass the rice I was eating through my nose. Its fairly easy to understand why New Braunfels went with NB, though I’d still feel pretty awful wearing “Unicorns” across my chest while getting nailed by a strong safety over the middle.
    However, it wouldn’t be so unbelievable in cricket. That sport’s a little, you know, immasculine.

  • Marc Nelson Jr. | December 3, 2007 at 2:01 am |

    Of course, New Hampshire could have avoided all that ugliness by just sticking with the Primaries.

    Apropos of nothing, JaMarcus Russell looks very badass in the Raiders home uni:

    http://sports.aol.co...