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Sunday Open Thread

Navy Notre Dame Football

Navy vs. Notre Dame was another one of those games Saturday where it took me an extra minute just to tell which team was which. Congrats to Navy for ending their losing streak against the Golden Domers, and another congrats for having “NAVY” spelled right on every uniform for the big day. —Vince

 

165 comments to Sunday Open Thread

  • C.N. | November 4, 2007 at 10:39 am |

    Hey Vince…

    It’s NAVY vs. Notre Dame, not Army…

  • Zevi | November 4, 2007 at 10:39 am |

    way to go Navy!!! now we don’t have to hear about how we haven’t beaten ND in 43 years! GO NAVY!!

  • Vince Grzegorek | November 4, 2007 at 10:41 am |

    See, I was so confused I f’ed up the team names too.

  • C.N. | November 4, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”165408″]Hey Vince…

    It’s NAVY vs. Notre Dame, not Army…[/quote]

    Thanks for fixing it. By the way, I love the lead picture. That was a great play- the defensive back jumped completely over the blocking back.

  • Ian | November 4, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    What no pictures or comments about the neon shoes that Oregon wore? They were truly horrendous….

  • Stuby | November 4, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    I thought Navy’s uniforms would be made by the lowest bidder, just like all military uniforms.

  • LI Phil | November 4, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    not uni related but further proof that al trautwig is a moron…he just asked one of his co-commentators to ‘handicap’ the women’s wheelchair competitors in the NYC marathon

  • Drew | November 4, 2007 at 11:43 am |

    I wanted to make a note of the errors the San Diego Chargers new uniforms have, mostly on the bolt orientation.

    When they were unvieled, we were showed they would look like this:
    http://i1.chargers.c...

    The navy shirt would have this bolt on the shoulder:
    http://i2.chargers.c...

    The white shirt would have this bolt:
    http://i1.chargers.c...

    So the white and navy bolts on the shirt were the same.

    The powder blue bolt was to be flip flopped to look like this:
    http://i1.chargers.c...

    So the powder blue was reversed, but yet in the games, it follows the exact way as the navy and white shirt:

    http://i2.chargers.c...

    http://i2.chargers.c...

    http://i1.chargers.c...

    So what’s the deal? I had bought myself a powder blue Tomlinson one on eBay, granted I think it’s fake, but the bolt is oriented the way the uniform unvieling had it, not the way it is in games.

    What’s up?

  • Parrish | November 4, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    Adding to the beauty ofthe ND-Navy uniforms… they’re from different companies. Everything about the Notre Dame jerseys screams Notre Dame, nothing about it screams Adidas. Same with the Naval Academy and Nike. See, when you’re from a school with a sense of self-respect and pride, you can ensure that your uniforms are more about the school and less about the corporates.

  • Cpt.Ron | November 4, 2007 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”165413″]What no pictures or comments about the neon shoes that Oregon wore? They were truly horrendous….[/quote]

    Is the circus in town?

  • Michael Doucette | November 4, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    Anyone notice that all the refs in the Oregon-Arizona State game had pink whistles?? This was probably covered in yesterday’s comments, but I’m too lazy to check… I thought all that pink was supposed to end when October ended…

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | November 4, 2007 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”165424″][quote comment=”165413″]What no pictures or comments about the neon shoes that Oregon wore? They were truly horrendous….[/quote]

    Is the circus in town?[/quote]

    Now I do like neon/bright shoes…I have no problem with that. But the yellow pants has got to go! I’m one of the few who like the Oregon uni’s but this combo shouldn’t have happened.

  • =bg= | November 4, 2007 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”165422″]Adding to the beauty ofthe ND-Navy uniforms… they’re from different companies. Everything about the Notre Dame jerseys screams Notre Dame, nothing about it screams Adidas. Same with the Naval Academy and Nike. See, when you’re from a school with a sense of self-respect and pride, you can ensure that your uniforms are more about the school and less about the corporates.[/quote]

    You mean, like the adidas logo on the socks?

  • Zach | November 4, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    I think that Oregon should have worn those gorgeous neon helmets with the rest of that putrid ensemble.
    Z

  • Cpt.Ron | November 4, 2007 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”165427″][quote comment=”165422″]Adding to the beauty ofthe ND-Navy uniforms… they’re from different companies. Everything about the Notre Dame jerseys screams Notre Dame, nothing about it screams Adidas. Same with the Naval Academy and Nike. See, when you’re from a school with a sense of self-respect and pride, you can ensure that your uniforms are more about the school and less about the corporates.[/quote]

    You mean, like the adidas logo on the socks?[/quote]

    Don’t forget the jersey and pants.

    This Adidas logo is just a big as the ND!

    But seriously, can anyone find a d1 fbs team that doesn’t have any logo creep?

    Hell, any college team at all?

  • Erik | November 4, 2007 at 1:02 pm |

    That was one of the few Oregon combos that I think actually works. To each his own, I guess.

    It would be better if the black was replaced with green, though.

  • Mike Engle | November 4, 2007 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”165429″][quote comment=”165427″][quote comment=”165422″]Adding to the beauty ofthe ND-Navy uniforms… they’re from different companies. Everything about the Notre Dame jerseys screams Notre Dame, nothing about it screams Adidas. Same with the Naval Academy and Nike. See, when you’re from a school with a sense of self-respect and pride, you can ensure that your uniforms are more about the school and less about the corporates.[/quote]

    You mean, like the adidas logo on the socks?[/quote]

    Don’t forget the jersey and pants.

    This Adidas logo is just a big as the ND!

    But seriously, can anyone find a d1 fbs team that doesn’t have any logo creep?

    Hell, any college team at all?[/quote]
    Not to mention the huge-ass extra logo design element around the ND emblem…

  • Mike Engle | November 4, 2007 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”165431″][quote comment=”165429″][quote comment=”165427″][quote comment=”165422″]Adding to the beauty ofthe ND-Navy uniforms… they’re from different companies. Everything about the Notre Dame jerseys screams Notre Dame, nothing about it screams Adidas. Same with the Naval Academy and Nike. See, when you’re from a school with a sense of self-respect and pride, you can ensure that your uniforms are more about the school and less about the corporates.[/quote]

    You mean, like the adidas logo on the socks?[/quote]

    Don’t forget the jersey and pants.

    This Adidas logo is just a big as the ND!

    But seriously, can anyone find a d1 fbs team that doesn’t have any logo creep?

    Hell, any college team at all?[/quote]
    Not to mention the huge-ass extra logo design element around the ND emblem…[/quote]
    Strike-through didn’t work, should have gone through huge-ass extra logo

  • Spencer | November 4, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”165430″]That was one of the few Oregon combos that I think actually works. To each his own, I guess.

    It would be better if the black was replaced with green, though.[/quote]

    Definitely…. at first I was a little worried that ASU would also come out in their mustard yellow pants. That would have been a little confusing. I also agree that the set would have looked better with a green top.

  • Nick | November 4, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    Hey did you guys forget to turn the clocks back because the time of some of the comments say like 1:22 pm and it’s only 12:30 pm.

  • =bg= | November 4, 2007 at 1:31 pm |

    For fun, check how many adidas logos Weis has on him. Biggest walking billboard ever.

    He needs a hoody.

  • Chris | November 4, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    NikeWorld has reached AUS hockey here in New Brunswick. Defending National Champion UNB has “swooshed” socks now. Nike didn’t even design their current uniforms.

  • Chris | November 4, 2007 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”165439″]For fun, check how many adidas logos Weis has on him. Biggest walking billboard ever.

    He needs a hoody.[/quote]
    He kinda has that “I wonder if Belichick needs another cameraman” look on his face.

  • Pretty Boy Paulie | November 4, 2007 at 1:59 pm |
  • Stevo | November 4, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    I watched Oregon for the first time all season last night and I have to say that the overall look fits in well when you’re watching a speed player in motion, but they look out of place on the linemen.

  • Nick | November 4, 2007 at 2:19 pm |

    LT’s Wearing a flag decal!

  • JARED | November 4, 2007 at 2:20 pm |

    LT’s flag is BACK!!! No pic yet

  • David | November 4, 2007 at 2:20 pm |

    BREAKING UNI WATCH NEWS! LT HAS A FLAG!!!

  • Jeff F | November 4, 2007 at 2:20 pm |

    Tomlinson has the flag decal on his helmet this week.

  • David | November 4, 2007 at 2:20 pm |

    Dammit guys, you beat me to it…

  • Dusty | November 4, 2007 at 2:21 pm |

    Chris Chambers appears to have no flag on the back of his helmet now.

  • Stevo | November 4, 2007 at 2:22 pm |

    News Flash: apparently, LT has a sense of humor as well, judging by that TV commercial I just saw.

  • Jeff I | November 4, 2007 at 2:22 pm |

    LT has heard our pleas

  • Joe | November 4, 2007 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”165446″]LT’s Wearing a flag decal![/quote]
    I just had woken up and turned on my TV and rushed to my computer to be the hero that told UniWatch nation that LT had a flag only to find i had been beaten to it.

  • David | November 4, 2007 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”165456″][quote comment=”165446″]LT’s Wearing a flag decal![/quote]
    I just had woken up and turned on my TV and rushed to my computer to be the hero that told UniWatch nation that LT had a flag only to find i had been beaten to it.[/quote]
    I saw it before anyone mentioned it, and I was about to post it on our main computer, but since my name and e-mail wasn’t already filled out, I went to my laptop and posted it through there…

  • Tape | November 4, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    wow, the Saints/Jags game looks horrible. Nawlins is in the monochrome black, Jags in white with black pants. Neither team’s pants have stripes. It looks like a high school game. utterly reprehensible.

  • ThresherK | November 4, 2007 at 2:39 pm |

    “another one of those games Saturday where it took me an extra minute just to tell which team was which”

    Can’t Paul, as our erstwhile leader, designate a penalty for such an offense? How about Purple Card?

  • Grimm | November 4, 2007 at 2:45 pm |

    When I turned the OU-ASU game on last night the 1st thing I thought was “man those Ducks unis look good.” When I saw a close up it made me think that combo may be one of my favorites in college football.

  • David | November 4, 2007 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”165462″]When I turned the OU-ASU game on last night the 1st thing I thought was “man those Ducks unis look good.” When I saw a close up it made me think that combo may be one of my favorites in college football.[/quote]
    Please tell me you’re kidding

  • jeff in detroit | November 4, 2007 at 3:14 pm |

    watching the lions-broncos game it looks like broncos punter Todd sauerbraun (i probably butchered the spelling)has his belt unbuckled. has anyone else noticed this? does he do this every week?

  • David | November 4, 2007 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”165464″]watching the lions-broncos game it looks like broncos punter Todd sauerbraun (i probably butchered the spelling)has his belt unbuckled. has anyone else noticed this? does he do this every week?[/quote]
    Ya, looks like it’s every week (on the right in both pics)

  • Brian from Short Island | November 4, 2007 at 3:23 pm |

    NAVY’s team runs out the tunnel with an American flag.

  • Joseph | November 4, 2007 at 3:24 pm |

    I actually am a fan of the Oregon uni’s. Having grown up with those horrible light green ones (a la ND throwbacks) these are only an improvement. The only problem I had with the yellow pants was that they were a little clashy with the yellow numbers. I actually thought those shoes looked pretty cool

  • Tim F | November 4, 2007 at 3:32 pm |

    Paul,

    Don’t have a pick but it looks as if the will he won’t he is over with Tomlinson. He is wearing the flag decal

  • TD | November 4, 2007 at 3:32 pm |

    Saints in all black, Jags in the black pants. No stripes anywhere – its like they decided to give part of my TV the day off.

  • dm00n | November 4, 2007 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”165458″]wow, the Saints/Jags game looks horrible. Nawlins is in the monochrome black, Jags in white with black pants. Neither team’s pants have stripes. It looks like a high school game. utterly reprehensible.[/quote]

    I just saw the halftime highlights on CBS and you are right. Besides not having pants stripes, it didn’t look like they have sock stripes either. All black from the waist down for both squads.

  • David | November 4, 2007 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”165470″]Paul,

    Don’t have a pick but it looks as if the will he won’t he is over with Tomlinson. He is wearing the flag decal[/quote]
    You’re an hour late dude, look at the previous comments

  • Glenn | November 4, 2007 at 3:55 pm |

    I was going to comment on the black pants issue with the Jags & Saints, but a few people obviously already have. But man, it just looks really really weird.

  • Michael Doucette | November 4, 2007 at 3:55 pm |

    I’m with all the Oregon supporters. I absolutely love the Ducks’ color scheme, ESPECIALLY the Day-Glo yellow pants… I’m in heaven when they use it as their primary color. Call me crazy, but I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.

  • Talon Lardner | November 4, 2007 at 4:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”165476″]I’m with all the Oregon supporters. I absolutely love the Ducks’ color scheme, ESPECIALLY the Day-Glo yellow pants… I’m in heaven when they use it as their primary color. Call me crazy, but I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.[/quote]

    The more I look at it, the more I agree… one cannot live on plain Raideresque jerseys alone.

  • David | November 4, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”165452″]Chris Chambers appears to have no flag on the back of his helmet now.[/quote]
    Ya, CBS showed a close up after his questionable catch, and there is no flag

  • C.N. | November 4, 2007 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”165474″][quote comment=”165470″]Paul,

    Don’t have a pick but it looks as if the will he won’t he is over with Tomlinson. He is wearing the flag decal[/quote]
    You’re an hour late dude, look at the previous comments[/quote]

    One could say the same thing to you…

  • Cpt.Ron | November 4, 2007 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”165431″][quote comment=”165429″][quote comment=”165427″][quote comment=”165422″]Adding to the beauty ofthe ND-Navy uniforms… they’re from different companies. Everything about the Notre Dame jerseys screams Notre Dame, nothing about it screams Adidas. Same with the Naval Academy and Nike. See, when you’re from a school with a sense of self-respect and pride, you can ensure that your uniforms are more about the school and less about the corporates.[/quote]

    You mean, like the adidas logo on the socks?[/quote]

    Don’t forget the jersey and pants.

    This Adidas logo is just a big as the ND!

    But seriously, can anyone find a d1 fbs team that doesn’t have any logo creep?

    Hell, any college team at all?[/quote]
    Not to mention the huge-ass extra logo design element around the ND emblem…[/quote]

    I totally missed that!. When I first read your post I thought you were referring to “NOTRE DAME FOOTBALL”. But I just looked at it again, Don’t know how I missed it. They’re getting slick with the 3 stripes!

    Great eye!

  • Hal | November 4, 2007 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”165430″]That was one of the few Oregon combos that I think actually works. To each his own, I guess.

    It would be better if the black was replaced with green, though.[/quote]
    As fed up as I am with my alma mater’s uniforms and the way they suck up to Phil Knight, I could live with every stupid little thing they do if they would just get rid of the black.

    1. Black is one of OSU’s colors.

    2. I thought the “gangsta” fad went out of style.

    3. With rare exceptions (i.e., Notre Dame breaking out the green uniforms, and even they have a past history of using green as a main color), there is no excuse for a school to wear anything but the school colors. Colors/nickname are the source of unification for a school’s culture. I’d love to ask the Duck players (who apparently are laregly responsible for keeping the black) how they would feel about adding black stripes to the American flag?

  • tim | November 4, 2007 at 4:36 pm |

    oregons unis were fantastic

    and yes i actually like them

  • David | November 4, 2007 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”165481″][quote comment=”165474″][quote comment=”165470″]Paul,

    Don’t have a pick but it looks as if the will he won’t he is over with Tomlinson. He is wearing the flag decal[/quote]
    You’re an hour late dude, look at the previous comments[/quote]

    One could say the same thing to you…[/quote]
    What? I posted this an hour before his…
    [quote comment=”165448″]BREAKING UNI WATCH NEWS! LT HAS A FLAG!!![/quote]

  • Taylor | November 4, 2007 at 4:50 pm |

    All the Nike college bball shorts are online now at http://www.eastbay.c.... It looks like Texas, Fla. St. and Oklahoma has taken steps backwards. Michigan, Arizona St., and UNC still look good. The rest don’t seem much better or worse.

  • Erik | November 4, 2007 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”165484″][quote comment=”165430″]That was one of the few Oregon combos that I think actually works. To each his own, I guess.

    It would be better if the black was replaced with green, though.[/quote]
    As fed up as I am with my alma mater’s uniforms and the way they suck up to Phil Knight, I could live with every stupid little thing they do if they would just get rid of the black.

    1. Black is one of OSU’s colors.

    2. I thought the “gangsta” fad went out of style.

    3. With rare exceptions (i.e., Notre Dame breaking out the green uniforms, and even they have a past history of using green as a main color), there is no excuse for a school to wear anything but the school colors. Colors/nickname are the source of unification for a school’s culture. I’d love to ask the Duck players (who apparently are laregly responsible for keeping the black) how they would feel about adding black stripes to the American flag?[/quote]
    I grew up in Albany, you don’t have to remind me of OSU’s colors.

    I still thought they looked pretty decent. Not perfect, but a lot better than many of the looks they’ve sported.

  • Paul Lukas | November 4, 2007 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”165480″][quote comment=”165452″]Chris Chambers appears to have no flag on the back of his helmet now.[/quote]
    Ya, CBS showed a close up after his questionable catch, and there is no flag[/quote]

    Someone please give a screen grab of that. — Paul (just back from my weekend travels)

  • Teebz | November 4, 2007 at 5:31 pm |

    Did anyone see where Belichek keeps his challenge flag? During the challenge on the Moorhead catch, he replaced the flag in his RIGHT SOCK. Not a pocket, but a sock.

    The guy wears khakis, but can’t have the challenge flag in his pants pocket? How many other NFL coaches hide theur challenge flag in their socks?

  • Wyatt S. | November 4, 2007 at 5:31 pm |

    Even bigger news than the LT flag…

    Bill Belichick is no longer wearing the homeless guy outfit!

  • Tape | November 4, 2007 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”165472″][quote comment=”165458″]wow, the Saints/Jags game looks horrible. Nawlins is in the monochrome black, Jags in white with black pants. Neither team’s pants have stripes. It looks like a high school game. utterly reprehensible.[/quote]

    I just saw the halftime highlights on CBS and you are right. Besides not having pants stripes, it didn’t look like they have sock stripes either. All black from the waist down for both squads.[/quote]

    geez, somehow in all the ugliness I forgot to even notice that they had non-contrasting socks.

    seriously, can the league levy a fine for designing unis this ugly?

  • allen | November 4, 2007 at 5:40 pm |

    did anyone get any pictures from the new york marathon?

    from my bedroom window on bedford and manhattan ave. in greenpoint i saw the entire cast of star wars, sponge bob squarepants, three penguins, and an incredible hulk.

    sadly my phone camera sucks because, well, it’s on a phone… so no photos.

  • Stevo | November 4, 2007 at 5:41 pm |

    It was mentioned during the Dallas/NE game that Belichick dresses better for road games than for home games.

  • dn393 | November 4, 2007 at 5:45 pm |

    Belichick wearing a polo shirt AND khakis? Patriots Thrift Store closed today? That shirt has hung unworn in Bill’s closet for so long, it’s got hanger marks on the shoulders!

  • Tim Abel | November 4, 2007 at 5:46 pm |

    Belichick looking incredibly uncomfortable in a polo.

  • Grimm | November 4, 2007 at 6:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”165463″][quote comment=”165462″]When I turned the OU-ASU game on last night the 1st thing I thought was “man those Ducks unis look good.” When I saw a close up it made me think that combo may be one of my favorites in college football.[/quote]
    Please tell me you’re kidding[/quote]

    I’m not kidding at all. The best thing about them is you know who they as soon as you see them. Isn’t that the idea of a uniform? Today’s open thread is a prime example of why “classic” isn’t always the best idea. Also, with this combo at least, they make the players look faster than the probably are.

  • David | November 4, 2007 at 6:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”165491″][quote comment=”165480″][quote comment=”165452″]Chris Chambers appears to have no flag on the back of his helmet now.[/quote]
    Ya, CBS showed a close up after his questionable catch, and there is no flag[/quote]

    Someone please give a screen grab of that. — Paul (just back from my weekend travels)[/quote]
    Paul, I don’t have a screen shot, nor do I have a picture from today, but this picture from last week shows Chambers didnt have a flag last week either

  • ToasterPoodle | November 4, 2007 at 6:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”165498″]Belichick looking incredibly uncomfortable in a polo.[/quote]
    Belichick in a polo = anyone else in a tuxedo

  • Glenn | November 4, 2007 at 6:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”165498″]Belichick looking incredibly uncomfortable in a polo.[/quote]

    probably even MORE so after the Addai catch there right before the end of the half

  • Refdude | November 4, 2007 at 7:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”165501″][quote comment=”165498″]Belichick looking incredibly uncomfortable in a polo.[/quote]
    Belichick in a polo = anyone else in a tuxedo[/quote]

    The best part was that CBS showed him walking into the RCA dome during halftime of the 1pm gamesbefore the game, and dude was wearing a TIE AND SPORTJACKET!

    He actually dresses down once he gets to the field!

  • Nick (first on the LT flag) | November 4, 2007 at 7:07 pm |

    I love that Adrian Peterson sets the single game record for yards, and the one thing from that game we can talk about is who doesnt have a flag decal

  • LI Phil | November 4, 2007 at 7:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”165493″]Bill Belichick is no longer wearing the homeless guy outfit![/quote]

    that’s an insult to homeless guys everywhere

  • Kyle at IU | November 4, 2007 at 7:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”165508″][quote comment=”165501″][quote comment=”165498″]Belichick looking incredibly uncomfortable in a polo.[/quote]
    Belichick in a polo = anyone else in a tuxedo[/quote]

    The best part was that CBS showed him walking into the RCA dome during halftime of the 1pm gamesbefore the game, and dude was wearing a TIE AND SPORTJACKET!

    He actually dresses down once he gets to the field![/quote]

    I kinda feel like Belichick’s wardrobe was in response to the fact that you were originally not allowed to wear a suit on the sideline. He probably decided that, if he can’t look good, then he’ll be as trashy as possible. Polo os classy today, though.

  • timmy b | November 4, 2007 at 7:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”165508″][quote comment=”165501″][quote comment=”165498″]Belichick looking incredibly uncomfortable in a polo.[/quote]
    Belichick in a polo = anyone else in a tuxedo[/quote]

    The best part was that CBS showed him walking into the RCA dome during halftime of the 1pm gamesbefore the game, and dude was wearing a TIE AND SPORTJACKET!

    He actually dresses down once he gets to the field![/quote]

    if belicheck wanted to cause us all to collapse in shock, he would keep the tie and sportjacket on when he coaches the sideline during the game.

  • Paul Lukas | November 4, 2007 at 7:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”165500″][quote comment=”165491″][quote comment=”165480″][quote comment=”165452″]Chris Chambers appears to have no flag on the back of his helmet now.[/quote]
    Ya, CBS showed a close up after his questionable catch, and there is no flag[/quote]

    Someone please give a screen grab of that. — Paul (just back from my weekend travels)[/quote]
    Paul, I don’t have a screen shot, nor do I have a picture from today, but this picture from last week shows Chambers didnt have a flag last week either[/quote]

    That photo isn’t definitive — the decal is usually positioned inside the base of the right bolt. Can’t see that spot in that photo.

  • u2horn | November 4, 2007 at 7:32 pm |

    OSU player (Adarius Bowman, #12 it looks like) with a new haircut to play the Longhorns yesterday.

  • u2horn | November 4, 2007 at 7:34 pm |

    oops, here’s the link (I hope this time)

    http://img135.images...

    hmm, no direct imageshack links allowed?

  • u2horn | November 4, 2007 at 7:34 pm |

    never mind, that link works. sorry, I’m sorta new to the comments section here.

  • Frankie | November 4, 2007 at 7:45 pm |

    So LT has his flag decal, which has obviously been mentioned quite a few times already. What I want to know is whether or not Paul ended up sending it to him.

  • LI Phil | November 4, 2007 at 8:05 pm |

    anyone know if the iggles are wearing the alt-black this year? or is that out the winder since they wore the throwbacks earlier…

  • Coffee With Ian | November 4, 2007 at 8:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”165495″]did anyone get any pictures from the new york marathon?

    from my bedroom window on bedford and manhattan ave. in greenpoint i saw the entire cast of star wars, sponge bob squarepants, three penguins, and an incredible hulk.

    sadly my phone camera sucks because, well, it’s on a phone… so no photos.[/quote]

    The best part about the marathon was how EMPTY Times Square was around 11:30 this morning. We were able to walk around without the regular combination of too many cars and too many people.

    Now only if the fire department discovers the capacity violation at Trader Joes in Union Square…

  • Umpire33 | November 4, 2007 at 8:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”165484″][quote comment=”165430″]That was one of the few Oregon combos that I think actually works. To each his own, I guess.

    It would be better if the black was replaced with green, though.[/quote]
    As fed up as I am with my alma mater’s uniforms and the way they suck up to Phil Knight, I could live with every stupid little thing they do if they would just get rid of the black.

    1. Black is one of OSU’s colors.

    2. I thought the “gangsta” fad went out of style.

    3. With rare exceptions (i.e., Notre Dame breaking out the green uniforms, and even they have a past history of using green as a main color), there is no excuse for a school to wear anything but the school colors. Colors/nickname are the source of unification for a school’s culture. I’d love to ask the Duck players (who apparently are laregly responsible for keeping the black) how they would feel about adding black stripes to the American flag?[/quote]

    As a life long duck fan,and UofO alumn, I couldn’t agree with you more. Be flashy, weird, ugly, or whatever. But do it with school pride and colors. Schools have colors for a reason.
    I didn’t think of it at first, but when the picture of the new uniforms were released I showed my friend. Her response was, “Why are they going to wear black? Do they want to be like the beavers?”

    I am not a fan of the “Bellotti Bold”
    I dislike the diamond plate
    but I can live with them without complaining.
    However, I am embarrassed for my school when I see the ducks wearing rodent colors. It makes me feel a little ill every time I see it.

  • mammoth | November 4, 2007 at 8:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”165524″]anyone know if the iggles are wearing the alt-black this year? or is that out the winder since they wore the throwbacks earlier…[/quote]

    Uhhh..
    What?

  • Bumblebee | November 4, 2007 at 8:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”165518″]oops, here’s the link (I hope this time)

    http://img135.images...

    hmm, no direct imageshack links allowed?[/quote]

    Love it. It’s nice to see tasteful school spirit.

    BTW Not a cowboy fan and my sister is UT alum

  • LI Phil | November 4, 2007 at 8:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”165528″][quote comment=”165524″]anyone know if the iggles are wearing the alt-black this year? or is that out the winder since they wore the throwbacks earlier…[/quote]

    Uhhh..
    What?[/quote]

    so sorry…

    does anyone know whether the philadelphia eagles are going to be donning their alternate black jerseys this season, or does their having worn those garish ‘throwbacks’ preclude them from so doing

  • Stuby | November 4, 2007 at 8:24 pm |

    Peyton Manning must have something tasty on his fingers, considering he licks them constantly. Someone needs to tell that guy to dump the Great Gazoo helmet. It doesn’t look as bad on anyone as it does on him.

  • RollTide | November 4, 2007 at 8:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”165509″]I love that Adrian Peterson sets the single game record for yards, and the one thing from that game we can talk about is who doesnt have a flag decal[/quote]

    I wouldn’t wear the flag until Bush is out of office.

  • mammoth | November 4, 2007 at 8:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”165530″][quote comment=”165528″][quote comment=”165524″]anyone know if the iggles are wearing the alt-black this year? or is that out the winder since they wore the throwbacks earlier…[/quote]

    Uhhh..
    What?[/quote]

    so sorry…

    does anyone know whether the philadelphia eagles are going to be donning their alternate black jerseys this season, or does their having worn those garish ‘throwbacks’ preclude them from so doing[/quote]

    Ohh…

    Doubt it. but anything is possible.

  • Eric | November 4, 2007 at 8:30 pm |

    LT’s wearing a flag again!

  • Stevo | November 4, 2007 at 8:36 pm |

    I wouldn’t wear the flag until Bush is out of office.

    I’d wear it on my hat/helmet no matter what.

  • devin | November 4, 2007 at 8:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”165529″][quote comment=”165518″]oops, here’s the link (I hope this time)

    http://img135.images...

    hmm, no direct imageshack links allowed?[/quote]

    Love it. It’s nice to see tasteful school spirit.

    BTW Not a cowboy fan and my sister is UT alum[/quote]

    School Spirit would be using your own logo. Although I can see why OSU players would be confused about their identity since their Jersey’s have different text than every other bit of uniform/merchandise

  • Stevo | November 4, 2007 at 8:44 pm |

    School Spirit would be using your own logo. Although I can see why OSU players would be confused about their identity since their Jersey’s have different text than every other bit of uniform/merchandise

    School Spirit is also using your opponents logo in a way that you know will get under their skin, hence the longhorn being upside down (a “Down with Texas” sign made most famous by Houston Nutt).

  • Stuby | November 4, 2007 at 8:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”165532″][quote comment=”165509″]I love that Adrian Peterson sets the single game record for yards, and the one thing from that game we can talk about is who doesnt have a flag decal[/quote]

    I wouldn’t wear the flag until Bush is out of office.[/quote]
    Whatever…

  • Stevo | November 4, 2007 at 9:06 pm |

    Peyton Manning must have something tasty on his fingers, considering he licks them constantly. Someone needs to tell that guy to dump the Great Gazoo helmet. It doesn’t look as bad on anyone as it does on him.

    Peyton Manning doesn’t wear a Great Gazoo helmet, he wears the Revolution (wasn’t he one of the first NFL players to wear it?). Tom Brady’s the one that wears the rounded lid.

  • Kris McInnis | November 4, 2007 at 9:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”165532″][quote comment=”165509″]I love that Adrian Peterson sets the single game record for yards, and the one thing from that game we can talk about is who doesnt have a flag decal[/quote]

    I wouldn’t wear the flag until Bush is out of office.[/quote]

    The most patriotic BAMA fan ever.

  • tom | November 4, 2007 at 9:19 pm |

    wen does the new tb rays jersey come out

  • JARED | November 4, 2007 at 9:25 pm |

    cowboys forced to wear “bad luck” blue jerseys

  • Stuby | November 4, 2007 at 9:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”165543″]

    Peyton Manning must have something tasty on his fingers, considering he licks them constantly. Someone needs to tell that guy to dump the Great Gazoo helmet. It doesn’t look as bad on anyone as it does on him.

    Peyton Manning doesn’t wear a Great Gazoo helmet, he wears the Revolution (wasn’t he one of the first NFL players to wear it?). Tom Brady’s the one that wears the rounded lid.[/quote]
    I know its a Revolution. To me the ugliest helmet ever produced. The fact that Manning has a flat face and you can’t even see his nose in profile makes it even worse. He’s sort of the anti-Plunkett.

  • Jeff | November 4, 2007 at 9:29 pm |

    The New York Rangers have modified their RBK jerseys already- they tucked the stupid tail up and hemmed it. Now they look like this: http://sports.yahoo....

    Much better.

  • Marty Met | November 4, 2007 at 9:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”165424″][quote comment=”165413″]What no pictures or comments about the neon shoes that Oregon wore? They were truly horrendous….[/quote]

    Is the circus in town?[/quote]

    What? They were SWEET!!!!!

  • Marty Met | November 4, 2007 at 9:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”165485″]oregons unis were fantastic

    and yes i actually like them[/quote]

    I agree. Best Uniforms in the NCAA!!!!

  • Marty Met | November 4, 2007 at 9:42 pm |

    I hate the ND and the Navy uniforms. Blech!!!

    I much prefer the Oregon uniforms.

  • Stevo | November 4, 2007 at 9:43 pm |

    I know its a Revolution. To me the ugliest helmet ever produced. The fact that Manning has a flat face and you can’t even see his nose in profile makes it even worse. He’s sort of the anti-Plunkett.

    If I had a choice between a safer helmet or one that was more flattering to my face, I’d risk the fashion criticism.

  • Stuby | November 4, 2007 at 9:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”165554″]

    I know its a Revolution. To me the ugliest helmet ever produced. The fact that Manning has a flat face and you can’t even see his nose in profile makes it even worse. He’s sort of the anti-Plunkett.

    If I had a choice between a safer helmet or one that was more flattering to my face, I’d risk the fashion criticism.[/quote]
    This is, after all, a discussion of Athletics Aesthetics. Riddell should be able to make it safe and look less dorky.

  • Robb | November 4, 2007 at 9:46 pm |

    Did anyone else notice the sound problems in the Colts-Pats game? It sounded like the stadium sound system was skipping, but it sounded more like crowd noise rather than music. I think it happened at the beginning of either the 3rd or 4th quarter

  • TD | November 4, 2007 at 9:48 pm |

    Wade Phillips is back to a regular two-sided headphones-style headset as opposed to that rear strap thingie he had earlier in the season.

  • scot | November 4, 2007 at 10:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”165555″][quote comment=”165554″]

    I know its a Revolution. To me the ugliest helmet ever produced. The fact that Manning has a flat face and you can’t even see his nose in profile makes it even worse. He’s sort of the anti-Plunkett.

    If I had a choice between a safer helmet or one that was more flattering to my face, I’d risk the fashion criticism.[/quote]
    This is, after all, a discussion of Athletics Aesthetics. Riddell should be able to make it safe and look less dorky.[/quote]

    Besides the Great Gazoo comment is right on target and funny as hell. It’s ok to lighten up every now and then.

  • Stevo | November 4, 2007 at 10:16 pm |

    Besides the Great Gazoo comment is right on target and funny as hell. It’s ok to lighten up every now and then.

    I think Brady’s helmet is more Gazoo than Peyton’s, Mr Endorsement looks like he’s wearing one of Dale Earnhardt’s old racing helmets.

  • Mike Engle | November 4, 2007 at 10:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”165559″]

    Besides the Great Gazoo comment is right on target and funny as hell. It’s ok to lighten up every now and then.

    I think Brady’s helmet is more Gazoo than Peyton’s, Mr Endorsement looks like he’s wearing one of Dale Earnhardt’s old racing helmets.[/quote]
    Never mind the fact that old Number Three never used facemasks…

  • Stevo | November 4, 2007 at 10:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”165560″][quote comment=”165559″]

    Besides the Great Gazoo comment is right on target and funny as hell. It’s ok to lighten up every now and then.

    I think Brady’s helmet is more Gazoo than Peyton’s, Mr Endorsement looks like he’s wearing one of Dale Earnhardt’s old racing helmets.[/quote]
    Never mind the fact that old Number Three never used facemasks…[/quote]

    Neither did Gazoo.

  • DW | November 4, 2007 at 10:26 pm |

    Why is Lawrence Taylor wearing a flag?

  • Brandon | November 4, 2007 at 10:28 pm |

    Hey everybody, I could have sworn I saw this new helmet on a Cowboys player tonight… I was going to rewind the DVR to see if I could get a better look at it but I ended up changing the damn channel on accident… and I forgot to record the game… i’m pissed now

    http://www.nytimes.c...

  • Patrick | November 4, 2007 at 10:57 pm |

    Did anyone mention LT wore a flag decal today? Also someone mentioned that Belichick was wearing a tie/sportjacket upon entering the Dome today. I’m pretty sure the entire team has a dress code and thus has to wear ties/jackets. And he was wearing a polo shirt in-game because he was indoors, no need to sport AHG (Angry Homeless Guy) look.

  • scott | November 4, 2007 at 11:14 pm |

    Belichik usually wears the blue polo when indoors or in warm weather, doesn’t he?

  • =bg= | November 4, 2007 at 11:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”165547″]cowboys forced to wear “bad luck” blue jerseys[/quote]

    I’d say the Iggles are having all the bad luck.
    How BOUT dem Cowboys.

  • Michael Doucette | November 4, 2007 at 11:32 pm |

    I think its a shame, personally, to require every player to have a flag on their helmet. I get it, the NFL doesn’t want to look unpatriotic in anyway, and profits from it (yes, patriotism is sometimes just part of a marketing scheme). But there has to be players who do not agree with things this country is doing, and making every player wear it seems a little much… To me, its just another instance of logo creep.

  • LI Phil | November 4, 2007 at 11:33 pm |
  • scott | November 4, 2007 at 11:33 pm |
  • Brandon | November 4, 2007 at 11:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”165569″]I think its a shame, personally, to require every player to have a flag on their helmet. I get it, the NFL doesn’t want to look unpatriotic in anyway, and profits from it (yes, patriotism is sometimes just part of a marketing scheme). But there has to be players who do not agree with things this country is doing, and making every player wear it seems a little much… To me, its just another instance of logo creep.[/quote]

    so if you do not agree with what this “country” is doing you just disassociate yourself from it?

  • LI Phil | November 4, 2007 at 11:35 pm |

    dammit…still new at figuring out the html…

    angry homeless days:

    http://scout.scout.c...

    indoor polos:

    http://scout.scout.c...

  • Stevo | November 4, 2007 at 11:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”165569″]I think its a shame, personally, to require every player to have a flag on their helmet. I get it, the NFL doesn’t want to look unpatriotic in anyway, and profits from it (yes, patriotism is sometimes just part of a marketing scheme). But there has to be players who do not agree with things this country is doing, and making every player wear it seems a little much… To me, its just another instance of logo creep.[/quote]

    It is possible to disagree with the current administration but still fly the flag.

  • Brandon | November 4, 2007 at 11:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”165573″][quote comment=”165569″]I think its a shame, personally, to require every player to have a flag on their helmet. I get it, the NFL doesn’t want to look unpatriotic in anyway, and profits from it (yes, patriotism is sometimes just part of a marketing scheme). But there has to be players who do not agree with things this country is doing, and making every player wear it seems a little much… To me, its just another instance of logo creep.[/quote]

    so if you do not agree with what this “country” is doing you just disassociate yourself from it?
    aside from making millions to play a game yet another thing afforded to us in a free society a uniform is supposed to be umm uhhh what’s the word i’m looking for I got it uniform… I can only imagine what the players would look like if the NFL Uni Police just disappeared.

  • Brandon | November 4, 2007 at 11:41 pm |

    sorry about messing up the tags and stuff that and not using the preview down there

  • Spence | November 4, 2007 at 11:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”165445″]I watched Oregon for the first time all season last night and I have to say that the overall look fits in well when you’re watching a speed player in motion, but they look out of place on the linemen.[/quote]

    I agree. I just wish they would get rid of the metal print on the shoulders and knees and put a big O or numbers on the shoulders. They really aren’t that terrible. And get rid of the “belotti bold” numbers- those also look bad on lineman.

  • Sarah | November 4, 2007 at 11:50 pm |

    One of the colts coaches had a red shirt on. Anyone know why?

  • Stevo | November 4, 2007 at 11:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”165581″]One of the colts coaches had a red shirt on. Anyone know why?[/quote]

    Was it one of the coordinators? I know they sometimes wear a contrasting color on the sideline to make them easier to spot by the players.

  • Stevo | November 5, 2007 at 12:02 am |

    [quote comment=”165580″][quote comment=”165445″]I watched Oregon for the first time all season last night and I have to say that the overall look fits in well when you’re watching a speed player in motion, but they look out of place on the linemen.[/quote]

    I agree. I just wish they would get rid of the metal print on the shoulders and knees and put a big O or numbers on the shoulders. They really aren’t that terrible. And get rid of the “belotti bold” numbers- those also look bad on lineman.[/quote]

    I don’t even mind the diamondplate when it’s in motion, it’s just that they were deisgned with a wideout’s dimensions in mind, which when placed on a lineman looks like your Great Uncle Lou trying to dress like Eminem.

  • College Kid | November 5, 2007 at 12:04 am |

    [quote comment=”165582″][quote comment=”165581″]One of the colts coaches had a red shirt on. Anyone know why?[/quote]

    Was it one of the coordinators? I know they sometimes wear a contrasting color on the sideline to make them easier to spot by the players.[/quote]

    Probably the OC/DC or another assistant who has been designated as the “signal caller”–the guy who relays the calls from the booth to the guys on the field. We do it at my college, all of the coaches wear white (home) or red (road) but the two signal callers always wear blue.

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2007 at 12:05 am |

    [quote comment=”165581″]One of the colts coaches had a red shirt on. Anyone know why?[/quote]

    belichick’s new cameraman

  • Dan | November 5, 2007 at 12:05 am |

    [quote comment=”165552″][quote comment=”165485″]oregons unis were fantastic

    and yes i actually like them[/quote]

    I agree. Best Uniforms in the NCAA!!!![/quote]
    [quote comment=”165553″]I hate the ND and the Navy uniforms. Blech!!!

    I much prefer the Oregon uniforms.[/quote]

    Anybody that says that Oregon’s uniforms suck are just kidding themselves. If they’re not the best uniforms in football, then they are very close. Here’s a rule Oregon needs to apply though, which they already do to a point. NEVER WEAR THE SAME THING TWICE IN A SEASON. I love when teams change it up every game. I hope they break out the yellow helmet soon.

  • dm00n | November 5, 2007 at 12:25 am |

    Funny how NBC “turned out the studio lights” to support some green initiative, but left the giant LCD scroller on to promote it and two huge electric screens advertising Toyota.

    The net effect was that all you could really see was the Toyota ads. I get what they are trying to promote, but this is almost as dumb as Honda putting the earth on their Formula 1 cars after they couldn’t find a title sponsor.

  • Matt Powers | November 5, 2007 at 12:26 am |

    What is truly amazing about Oregons’ gear is that Nike customizes current models of cleats specifically for them. For example…look closely at Jonathan Stewart’s cleats…he wears a pair of the Air Zoom Vick 2 however not only are they in Duck colors, which are obviously not a general release, but they have the O emblazoned all over them…Nike does the same for the basketball team.

  • LI Phil | November 5, 2007 at 12:30 am |

    [quote comment=”165588″]Funny how NBC “turned out the studio lights” to support some green initiative, but left the giant LCD scroller on to promote it and two huge electric screens advertising Toyota.[/quote]

    was thinkin the same thing…

    what was even funnier was when tiki said “i’ll be glad when the lights are on next week, then you can see me”

  • Stevo | November 5, 2007 at 12:31 am |

    [quote comment=”165589″]What is truly amazing about Oregons’ gear is that Nike customizes current models of cleats specifically for them. For example…look closely at Jonathan Stewart’s cleats…he wears a pair of the Air Zoom Vick 2 however not only are they in Duck colors, which are obviously not a general release, but they have the O emblazoned all over them…Nike does the same for the basketball team.[/quote]

    If I were the President of Nike and an Oregon grad I’d do the same thing. Nike owes it’s very existence to the Oregon Track and Field program.

  • Matt Powers | November 5, 2007 at 12:32 am |

    By the way…Manning and Brady have nothing on the guy in this link when it comes to Gazoo helmets!
    http://images.google...

  • katie | November 5, 2007 at 12:33 am |

    can somebody tell me why some nfl players wear those skinny white armbands around their arms near the elbow? i’m sure they’re really stretchy but it looks like it could cut off some circulation. ow!!!

  • Matt Powers | November 5, 2007 at 12:33 am |

    Check out Photos 5 and 6 of Kelso’s double helmet.
    http://images.google...

  • Stevo | November 5, 2007 at 12:34 am |

    [quote comment=”165592″]By the way…Manning and Brady have nothing on the guy in this link when it comes to Gazoo helmets!
    http://images.google...

    I was waiting for someone to bring up Kelso.

  • Stevo | November 5, 2007 at 12:34 am |

    [quote comment=”165593″]can somebody tell me why some nfl players wear those skinny white armbands around their arms near the elbow? i’m sure they’re really stretchy but it looks like it could cut off some circulation. ow!!![/quote]

    It’s all for looks. Someone else can elaborate better but it’s all about looking cool.

  • Michael Doucette | November 5, 2007 at 12:36 am |

    [quote comment=”165573″][quote comment=”165569″]I think its a shame, personally, to require every player to have a flag on their helmet. I get it, the NFL doesn’t want to look unpatriotic in anyway, and profits from it (yes, patriotism is sometimes just part of a marketing scheme). But there has to be players who do not agree with things this country is doing, and making every player wear it seems a little much… To me, its just another instance of logo creep.[/quote]

    so if you do not agree with what this “country” is doing you just disassociate yourself from it?[/quote]

    If you do not agree with policies and actions that the flag represents, whether wrong or right, I think you should have the option of not having something that you morally disagree with on your helmet…thats all. I dont see not wearing the flag as disassociating yourself from anything…

  • Matt Powers | November 5, 2007 at 12:38 am |

    The skinny arm bands became a fad three to four years ago…I personally don’t see the allure of them…Here’s Eastbay’s definition:
    http://www.eastbay.c...

  • Michael Doucette | November 5, 2007 at 12:38 am |

    [quote comment=”165576″][quote comment=”165569″]I think its a shame, personally, to require every player to have a flag on their helmet. I get it, the NFL doesn’t want to look unpatriotic in anyway, and profits from it (yes, patriotism is sometimes just part of a marketing scheme). But there has to be players who do not agree with things this country is doing, and making every player wear it seems a little much… To me, its just another instance of logo creep.[/quote]

    It is possible to disagree with the current administration but still fly the flag.[/quote]

    I agree. But do you agree that it is possible to disagree with the current administration, and possibly past history of this country, and not fly the flag?? Let those who wish to wear it wear it… Let those who do not leave it off the headwear.

  • Matt Powers | November 5, 2007 at 12:40 am |

    Sorry, this should be the link to Eastbay:
    http://www.eastbay.c...

  • Stevo | November 5, 2007 at 12:41 am |

    [quote comment=”165597″][quote comment=”165573″][quote comment=”165569″]I think its a shame, personally, to require every player to have a flag on their helmet. I get it, the NFL doesn’t want to look unpatriotic in anyway, and profits from it (yes, patriotism is sometimes just part of a marketing scheme). But there has to be players who do not agree with things this country is doing, and making every player wear it seems a little much… To me, its just another instance of logo creep.[/quote]

    so if you do not agree with what this “country” is doing you just disassociate yourself from it?[/quote]

    If you do not agree with policies and actions that the flag represents, whether wrong or right, I think you should have the option of not having something that you morally disagree with on your helmet…thats all. I dont see not wearing the flag as disassociating yourself from anything…[/quote]

    If a player doesn’t agree with what what the flag represents, there’s always the CFL.

  • Joseph | November 5, 2007 at 1:06 am |

    Oregon’s best look is still white shirt, black pants, green helmet. Strangely, in that pic they do not seem to have gone with the Bellotti Bold. Weird. That was only the second time they wore them, so maybe they didn’t have it yet. The debut of those uni’s also did not feature the Bellotti Bold, they used an even weirder style that are more robotic. I love those black pants with the white though. I also really did like the one’s yesterday. I’ve commented on this before, but when you see the diamond plates live, they blend to gether when sun hits them creating an odd silver shoulder square

  • Joseph | November 5, 2007 at 1:09 am |
  • Brandon | November 5, 2007 at 2:19 am |

    [quote comment=”165599″][quote comment=”165576″][quote comment=”165569″]I think its a shame, personally, to require every player to have a flag on their helmet. I get it, the NFL doesn’t want to look unpatriotic in anyway, and profits from it (yes, patriotism is sometimes just part of a marketing scheme). But there has to be players who do not agree with things this country is doing, and making every player wear it seems a little much… To me, its just another instance of logo creep.[/quote]

    It is possible to disagree with the current administration but still fly the flag.[/quote]

    I agree. But do you agree that it is possible to disagree with the current administration, and possibly past history of this country, and not fly the flag?? Let those who wish to wear it wear it… Let those who do not leave it off the headwear.[/quote]

    in the NCAA I’d agree with you, but with the NFL Uni Policy if you let one thing slide it opens doors… on the other side of the argument would it not be better to embrace the flag of your home country and wear it… and if you had the inclination to do so speak out about such policies you do not agree with? playing a bit of devils advocate here. I know one thing when my employer tells me to wear something on my “uniform” I tend to do it. I like my full pay check.

  • SWW | November 5, 2007 at 2:36 am |

    Figured you all would love this advertisement in the Sunday Boston Globe. This was part of an insert celebrating the Red Sox World Series title.

  • SWW | November 5, 2007 at 2:38 am |

    [quote comment=”165616″]Figured you all would love this advertisement in the Sunday Boston Globe. This was part of an insert celebrating the Red Sox World Series title.

    [/quote]

    Hm… not quite sure how to format the correct link, so I will just do this and hope it works.

    http://img204.images...

  • dm00n | November 5, 2007 at 2:44 am |

    [quote comment=”165532″][quote comment=”165509″]I love that Adrian Peterson sets the single game record for yards, and the one thing from that game we can talk about is who doesnt have a flag decal[/quote]

    I wouldn’t wear the flag until Bush is out of office.[/quote]

    Echoing previous posts – the flag doesn’t belong to a politician or administration. It is a gesture of respect to our country which is also codified in league policy.

  • Michael Doucette | November 5, 2007 at 2:51 am |

    [quote comment=”165601″][quote comment=”165597″][quote comment=”165573″][quote comment=”165569″]I think its a shame, personally, to require every player to have a flag on their helmet. I get it, the NFL doesn’t want to look unpatriotic in anyway, and profits from it (yes, patriotism is sometimes just part of a marketing scheme). But there has to be players who do not agree with things this country is doing, and making every player wear it seems a little much… To me, its just another instance of logo creep.[/quote]

    so if you do not agree with what this “country” is doing you just disassociate yourself from it?[/quote]

    If you do not agree with policies and actions that the flag represents, whether wrong or right, I think you should have the option of not having something that you morally disagree with on your helmet…thats all. I dont see not wearing the flag as disassociating yourself from anything…[/quote]

    If a player doesn’t agree with what what the flag represents, there’s always the CFL.[/quote]

    Im sorry, but that’s a very ignorant way to look at it… No sense in arguing to a person like you…

  • Michael Doucette | November 5, 2007 at 2:54 am |

    [quote comment=”165612″][quote comment=”165599″][quote comment=”165576″][quote comment=”165569″]I think its a shame, personally, to require every player to have a flag on their helmet. I get it, the NFL doesn’t want to look unpatriotic in anyway, and profits from it (yes, patriotism is sometimes just part of a marketing scheme). But there has to be players who do not agree with things this country is doing, and making every player wear it seems a little much… To me, its just another instance of logo creep.[/quote]

    It is possible to disagree with the current administration but still fly the flag.[/quote]

    I agree. But do you agree that it is possible to disagree with the current administration, and possibly past history of this country, and not fly the flag?? Let those who wish to wear it wear it… Let those who do not leave it off the headwear.[/quote]

    in the NCAA I’d agree with you, but with the NFL Uni Policy if you let one thing slide it opens doors… on the other side of the argument would it not be better to embrace the flag of your home country and wear it… and if you had the inclination to do so speak out about such policies you do not agree with? playing a bit of devils advocate here. I know one thing when my employer tells me to wear something on my “uniform” I tend to do it. I like my full pay check.[/quote]

    I know it’s part of the rules and I see your point about if you let this slide, you have to let everything slide… I’m simply questioning the policy all together. I’m all for those who wish to embrace the flag to have the right to display it, but to make it mandatory for all?? Seems a little less “land of the free” and a little more “conform or be called a traitor”. I dont know, maybe I’m putting this the wrong way.

  • Michael Doucette | November 5, 2007 at 2:57 am |

    [quote comment=”165618″][quote comment=”165532″][quote comment=”165509″]I love that Adrian Peterson sets the single game record for yards, and the one thing from that game we can talk about is who doesnt have a flag decal[/quote]

    I wouldn’t wear the flag until Bush is out of office.[/quote]

    Echoing previous posts – the flag doesn’t belong to a politician or administration. It is a gesture of respect to our country which is also codified in league policy.[/quote]

    When things happen that damages your respect for this country, are you required to set aside what you feel is right and wrong and follow the flock??

  • Brandon | November 5, 2007 at 3:04 am |

    I know it’s part of the rules and I see your point about if you let this slide, you have to let everything slide… I’m simply questioning the policy all together. I’m all for those who wish to embrace the flag to have the right to display it, but to make it mandatory for all?? Seems a little less “land of the free” and a little more “conform or be called a traitor”. I dont know, maybe I’m putting this the wrong way.[/quote]

    I’m with you if were making little Johnny and Sally wear a flag patch at school… I don’t see this as so much a politics thing as you do. The NFL is a sport and a business, what it has it’s athletes/employees were on their uniform is completly different than mandating every citizen wear a flag patch or decal. That and I don’t see to many high caliber foriegn ‘american’ football leagues around the world. on a side note the conform or your a traitor thing… man this is what gets me. people are thinking this country is so horrible… i look at it like this.. with out a right there is no left… if there is no up there is also no down. it’s just got to find it’s balance. and on that note I’m out. I hate this time change…. it gets my internal clock all screwy.

  • Brandon | November 5, 2007 at 3:34 am |

    ok I couldn’t resist.. my last post and this has the least to do with uniforms and such… lets set up this analogy.. your team has had a storied history but as of lets say the last 6 years the management has somehow slighted you… do you no longer support your team? do you shelve the colors till things get better… no you use your voice… enough fans bitch and moan and said management ends up out on their ass… I will always wear my team gear no matter how bad things are. I will always salute the flag… and remember go vote in November 08 for who ever I don’t care.(well I do) but saying you’d shelve your flag(or patriotism) just seems to me like a weak minded person who folds in the face of adversity.

    Paul, sorry to get off on the non Uni tangent but i feel better now… and it is 235am… I should be out cold by now.

  • Swens | November 5, 2007 at 4:06 am |

    [quote comment=”165535″]

    I wouldn’t wear the flag until Bush is out of office.

    I’d wear it on my hat/helmet no matter what.[/quote]

    First off, lets keep politics out of Uni Watch but i need to comment on this issue. Second off, just because our President sucks doesn’t mean you can’t be patritotic and wear the flag. The flag stands for so much more than whoever the president currently is.

  • Michael Doucette | November 5, 2007 at 7:47 am |

    [quote comment=”165624″]ok I couldn’t resist.. my last post and this has the least to do with uniforms and such… lets set up this analogy.. your team has had a storied history but as of lets say the last 6 years the management has somehow slighted you… do you no longer support your team? do you shelve the colors till things get better… no you use your voice… enough fans bitch and moan and said management ends up out on their ass… I will always wear my team gear no matter how bad things are. I will always salute the flag… and remember go vote in November 08 for who ever I don’t care.(well I do) but saying you’d shelve your flag(or patriotism) just seems to me like a weak minded person who folds in the face of adversity.

    Paul, sorry to get off on the non Uni tangent but i feel better now… and it is 235am… I should be out cold by now.[/quote]

    Not to get off the Uni related topic as well, but i can’t not respond to that…weak minded person who folds in the face of adversity? hmmm… I think it’s more along the lines of a strong minded person with a different opinion than the majority who is letting it known…. Kinda the opposite. And to the poster above me, you’re right, the flag stands for so much more than the president. It stands for all that is right with America, and all that is wrong…I personally believe the wrong outweighs the right, and will never salute the flag, but that’s just my opinion and you have a right to your own.

  • DrBear | November 5, 2007 at 8:07 am |

    I suppose if your employer told you to wear a swastika (see Paul’s post from the other day) you’d hop right to it?

  • Stuby | November 5, 2007 at 9:26 am |

    OK, this is completely out of hand. First off, It’s not a swastika, it’s an American flag. Big difference, and I shouldn’t have to explain why.

    Second, as far as I know, no one has been fined for omitting the flag from their uniform. Call it silent protest or whatever you want.

  • bobwool | November 5, 2007 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”165485″]oregons unis were fantastic,
    and yes i actually like them[/quote]
    Okay, these people need glasses. Where do I start? How about with the shoulder and knee diamond plate design – what the eff is that about? Their uniforms are a disgrace, and it’s not like you can’t make nice-looking unis with green and yellow (i.e. Green Bay).

  • super390 | November 5, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    It is exactly the wearing of a swastika or a hammer & sickle as a loyalty oath to a militarized government that defines the roots of totalitarianism. Look at photos of civilians in pre-1933 societies – they might occasionally wear a symbol of a political cause, but where had the Kaiser or the Czar punished people for not wearing the right lapel pin at work?

    To put this back in sports terms, note that during the real war, World War II, NFL players did not wear flags on their helmets or jerseys. Some baseball teams wore flags or shields on a one-season basis during the world wars. But not during the wars of colonial maintenance (Korea & Vietnam). Our predecessors, the British and French empires, would have found all these loyalty symbols annoying because wars of colonial maintenance were perpetual, and no one wanted to think about that. It was the Communists and Fascists, who preached perpetual war at home and abroad, who demanded national uniformity as a propaganda/intimidation tactic.

    I’m sure a lot of people started wearing flag pins during the Joe McCarthy terror – when the Cincinnati Reds had to change their name. Even then, no flags on NFL helmets.

  • dpnation | November 5, 2007 at 12:48 pm |

    Another game where the unis were hard to distinguish this weekend – FSU v. BC. Both have gold helmets and gold pants, not to mention FSU had maroon jackets on the sidelines (BC home jersey color).

  • dpnation | November 5, 2007 at 12:50 pm |

    here’s a pic

  • Chris M | November 5, 2007 at 3:55 pm |

    Do the cowboys wear different pants when they wear the “bad luck blue” uni’s?