Snap It After You Cap It

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The Patriots are setting all sorts of offensive records this season, but they may also be leading the league in unusual regulatory sanctions. First there was the video-spying incident. And now comes the news that two of the Pats — including Tom Brady — have been fined for not buckling their chinstraps.

Players have been going partially unsnapped for years now, of course (for further details on this and other aspects of chinstrap protocol, look here), a problem that the league has apparently made a concerted effort to eradicate this season. League officials say the issue is safety, not style, but I kinda think that’s just a smokescreen. After all, a few players still wear the old two-point strap, so wouldn’t this still offer more protection than the two-pointer? Methinks to NFL brain trust just doesn’t like seeing those straps flapping around out there.

The league is supposedly issuing chinstrap warnings before levying penalties, which means anyone fined for this infraction is a de facto serial offender. That’s hard to believe in Brady’s case, at least based on the photographic record. Do a Google image search on him and about 90% of the pics that come up show him fully buckled, with only the occasional exception. Sudden thought: Most of the players going unsnapped these days are black (including Ty Warren, the other Patriot who’s been fined). Could the league have singled out Brady simply to avoid charges of racism? Hmmmmm.

Speaking of Warren, he was fined for going unsnapped in the Pats’ game against the Bills on September 23rd. Must not have made a particularly big impression on him, because he was unsnapped again this past Sunday.

For more info on these and other uni infractions, visit our friends at UniformViolation.com.

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Uni Watch News Ticker: USC’s John David Booty is trying to protect his broken middle finger with a glove. … While looking for a FNOB photo of Brent Sutter, Chesky Bevo came across this. What’s that symbol above the uni numbers? … Captaincy note from Giants equipment director Joe Skiba: “The NFL sent us blue [captain's] patches for home and road jerseys, and some red ones for the red jerseys. But I called the league and got permission to use the red patches for the away uniforms. Are we the only team with two different-colored patches?” Not sure — anyone..? … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Daniel Sedin was showing some garter the other night. … Also from yesterday: As if NHL players haven’t been complaining enough about too much moisture ending up in their gloves and skates, there’s now talk of them using heated skate blades. No, really! And Wayne Gretzky’s a big fan. … Thank god we’re more than halfway through the month of October, which means all pink uniforms will soon be behind us. For now, though, Sharks goalie prospect Thomas Greiss is wearing a pink mask. Details about two-thirds of the way down this page (with thanks to Paul Locatelli). … Loads of NHL patches for sale here. … Longtime Uni Watch pal Kevin Walsh is showcasing some awesome terra cotta uniforms on about two-thirds of the way down this page on his awesome site, Forgotten NY. … Nick Maibroda reports that NASCAR driver Patrick Carpentier was given a Canadiens jersey with NASCAR-style numbering the other day. … You think maybe Indians pitcher Jenson Lewis’s parents have a lot of furniture from these guys? … Oregon has been practicing in white helmets this week, and the white lids (which appear to have green nose bumpers) may finally make their long-threatened game debut this weekend. Details here (with thanks to Dan Coleman). … Paul Locatelli notes that Joe Thornton’s helmet appears to have a old-style downward-sloping NHL logo, not the new version. … This year’s World Series cap patch will look like this. … Lots of great White Sox uni footage, from many different eras, in the second half of this video. … Bizarre and disturbing photo here (as spotted by Eric Distenfeld).

 

181 comments to Snap It After You Cap It

  • SpartyCuse | October 17, 2007 at 9:12 am |

    Paul: With regard to the logo on the hockey players, it is a “STOP” sign. It is used in youth hockey, to keep kids from checking from behind. Basically, if you can read the “stop” sign, stop, and dont hit the other kid from behind. Its meant to cut down on injuries from those hits, which usually occur along the boards.

  • SpartyCuse | October 17, 2007 at 9:15 am |

    More info on the STOP patch is here

  • SpartyCuse | October 17, 2007 at 9:16 am |

    I stink at links, so its here:

    http://www.stocktonc...

  • Joe Drennan | October 17, 2007 at 9:18 am |

    Few notes thoughts.

    1. The two point chin strap to me appears safer than a four point with one strap unbuckled simply becuase of the design of the two point strap. The straps are located in a different spot to better hold the helmet secure, where as the four point straps, are positioned differently so that only when all four are buckled down, the helmet is held down properly.

    2. in the Sutter photo those little things above the numbers are stops signs. I kid you not. It’s a stuipid initiative where soem morons think that a small stop sign above the numbers will stop kids from checking from behind. They think the small stop sign will stop you. Growing up were were told, if you see the numbers, shy away. Skating full speed you barely see the stop sign, but it’s hard to miss the numbers.

  • Monte | October 17, 2007 at 9:22 am |

    The Isles never used a FNOB when they had Brent and Duane Sutter. Maybe Ron and Rich FNOB when they were with the Flyers though.

  • SpartyCuse | October 17, 2007 at 9:24 am |

    Im almost positive that the Sutters had FNOB with the Blues, because Im pretty sure Ive seen them….time to do some research

  • dm00n | October 17, 2007 at 9:43 am |

    Sudden thought: Most of the players going unsnapped these days are black (including Ty Warren, the other Patriot who’s been fined). Could the league have singled out Brady simply to avoid charges of racism? Hmmmmm.

    I think it is just that most of the players who are outlandish and going against the grain right now happen to be black. There aren’t a lot of Brian Bosworths or Jim McMahons at the moment.

  • Jason Axel | October 17, 2007 at 9:44 am |
  • Pat | October 17, 2007 at 9:44 am |

    As a former football player that has used both the 2 point and the 4 point, the 4 point with only the top 2 straped up offers basically no protection. The strap only tightens when all are snapped in.

    This is why you can remove the helmet when the top 2 are still snapped.

  • dm00n | October 17, 2007 at 9:46 am |

    Paul: With regard to the logo on the hockey players, it is a “STOP” sign. It is used in youth hockey, to keep kids from checking from behind. Basically, if you can read the “stop” sign, stop, and dont hit the other kid from behind. Its meant to cut down on injuries from those hits, which usually occur along the boards.

    Looks like a stop sign crossed with a do not enter sign. I am sure there is a joke there somewhere.

  • John | October 17, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    The stop sign above the numbers also has the word “respect”, meant to ingrain respect for a prone opponent during the game. Like it or hate it, it does get players to avoid boarding others. And it’s one more way to get young players to respect the game.

  • John | October 17, 2007 at 9:48 am |

    Edit: Some versions do, not the one pictured.

  • dm00n | October 17, 2007 at 9:48 am |

    1. The two point chin strap to me appears safer than a four point with one strap unbuckled simply becuase of the design of the two point strap. The straps are located in a different spot to better hold the helmet secure, where as the four point straps, are positioned differently so that only when all four are buckled down, the helmet is held down properly.

    I don’t know how many times I have seen helmets come off this year, but it seems like more than usual. Maybe the league has noticed a trend and is just reacting.

  • Shaftman | October 17, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    I like how the patch makes it seem to say, “STOP, buy Nike” on some of the jersey’s.

  • dm00n | October 17, 2007 at 9:50 am |

    Notre Dame will be wearing different green jerseys, and it seems the coach hates them:

    Notre Dame will honor the 30th anniversary of the 1977 National Championship team by wearing the green jerseys and gold pants the team did back then this Saturday against the Trojans. The players were much more hyped about the idea than Weis was.

    “I enjoyed them,” Young said. “Coach Weis I don’t think cares for them. He likes the darker green a little bit more. I think they’re pretty sweet getting a little throw-back action.”

    “I like them a lot,” said quarterback Evan Sharpley, who’ll be making his first-career start. “They’re pretty cool. I know coach doesn’t like them very much but I think they’re pretty cool.”

  • dm00n | October 17, 2007 at 9:54 am |

    Nebraska’s defensive players have decided to stop wearing their black practice jerseys. They have been awarded to defensive starters and select other players since 1962. They feel they don’t deserve them at the moment.

  • Perry | October 17, 2007 at 9:55 am |

    Okay, apropos of nothing, here’s a somewhat uni-related question that occurred to me about something that seems to have changed without me noticing it until now: Not that long ago, pitchers routinely wore jackets when running the bases, even in fairly warm weather. Now it seems like you rarely see a pitcher who reaches base don a jacket, even on chilly nights. Why is that?

  • Kim | October 17, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    Regarding the Sutter’s and FNOB.

    There were six Sutter’s: Brent, Brian, Darryl, Duane, Rich, and Ron.

    The only circumstance that would have a Sutter wear a FNOB is when they share the first letter of their names.

    The twins, Rich and Ron, played together twice. In Philadelphia and St. Louis. The Flyers’ Play-by-Play announcer, Gene Hart, used to say that he could only tell the two apart when they were wearing their jerseys.

    Brent and Duane played together with the Islanders. But B. Sutter, and D. Sutter were on their nameplates.

    Brent and Rich played together briefly in Chicago. But a simple initial would separate them, too.

    Paul could probably do an entire uni-related article about the Sutters

  • john | October 17, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    Josh Harding of the Minnesota Wild wore this mask last year to promote breast cancer research after his sister was diagnosed with the disease. Details here.

  • Charlie | October 17, 2007 at 10:05 am |

    Just watched last week’s episode of Friday Night Lights…anyone in here watch it as well? Looks like the Panthers have new uniforms. Can’t remember if they were Under Armour last year…I’ll see if I can find a picture.

  • Shaftman | October 17, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment="157660"]Okay, apropos of nothing, here’s a somewhat uni-related question that occurred to me about something that seems to have changed without me noticing it until now: Not that long ago, pitchers routinely wore jackets when running the bases, even in fairly warm weather. Now it seems like you rarely see a pitcher who reaches base don a jacket, even on chilly nights. Why is that?[/quote]

    Actually, Mets pitchers routinely wear them and it always irks Gary, Keith, and Ron in the booth. They always mention it and non of them like it.

  • Vince DeMarco | October 17, 2007 at 10:12 am |

    I’ve noticed this before (on television), but it seems Tom Brady’s helmet rides-up pretty high in the back. http://cache.boston....

    Doesn’t look real safe. Any story here? Thoughts? Maybe he just has a long (or big) head.

  • Brian Terreson | October 17, 2007 at 10:13 am |

    It seems to me like the last couple times Oregon has played at Washington.. they have always worn all white (as in: green helmet/ white tops/ white pants)… perhaps they are one-uping themselves this weekend by going allllll white. Yikes!

  • todd krevanchi | October 17, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    the stop sign was discussed here
    http://www.uniwatchb...
    beginning with post 133

  • The Ol Goaler | October 17, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment="157654"]

    1. The two point chin strap to me appears safer than a four point with one strap unbuckled simply becuase of the design of the two point strap. The straps are located in a different spot to better hold the helmet secure, where as the four point straps, are positioned differently so that only when all four are buckled down, the helmet is held down properly.

    I don’t know how many times I have seen helmets come off this year, but it seems like more than usual. Maybe the league has noticed a trend and is just reacting.[/quote]
    A long-time NCAA Div.-I college trainer once told me that many players came to his school with no idea about how to properly wear their helmets, despite high school rules requiring all helmets to have “four-point” chinstraps buckled on every play…

    The trainer’s contention was that any football helmet should be slightly “tight” on the player (even with no chinstrap), so that it won’t come off during play. He also said that a “tight” helmet (of whatever manufacture) was better than a “loose” helmet at protecting against concussions, since the helmet’s padding is supposed to absorb any blows to the head.

    The problem? Wearing a “tight” helmet is uncomfortable after a while… once players get to the NFL and are no longer forced to wear the helmet size issued them by the trainers and equipment men in college, they wear “looser” helmets that are more likely to come off during play.

    While many of the NFL’s uniform regulations seem silly (Western Civilization will not fall if one guy wears different-colored shoes than his mates… or a different-colored chinstrap), the helmet-chinstrap rule does try to protect a player’s safety.

    On the “stop signs” on the hockey sweaters, I’m reminded of the time when Arkansas State coach Larry Lacewell had his quarterbacks wear orange practice jerseys with huge red “STOP” signs on both front and back in the early 1980s (sorry, no pictures)… the defensive players joked that they couldn’t see the “STOP” signs, but they did avoid hitting the QBs during the practice week!

  • Jon | October 17, 2007 at 10:26 am |

    In the picture of Daniel Sedin showing garter (nice catch, by the way), you’ll also notice that the Canucks are wearing white at home.

  • dm00n | October 17, 2007 at 10:32 am |

    Awesome story here about a fledgling uni-design/supply business. Best of luck to Rhonda Lloyd.

  • My name is not Earl | October 17, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    Will the green ND throwback jerseys will have the names on the back, like the ’77 jerseys did?

  • scott | October 17, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    Some thoughts on the Sox v. Indians game. Travis Hafner’s head is so big that his helment looks like those little ice cream containing helmets you got as a little kid at Baskin and Robbins. Then up to bat he looks like BALD BULL from Mike Tyson’s Punch Out. He has got to be juiced.

    Speaking of the Indians. I appreciate the incredible mascots and traditions of the MLB, but Cleveland needs to get a new mascot. The cartoon character is straight out of the movie Bamboozled. The fans were even dressed up with painted faces. I can’t believe that in this day and age that the American public will tolerate it. It is honestly amazing.

  • possum | October 17, 2007 at 10:51 am |

    Round 2 of CBS’s RBK Edge tournament is up. You’ll all be pleased to know Vancouver made it past the first round.

  • Kevin | October 17, 2007 at 10:51 am |

    Why doesn’t the NFL institute a rule that chin straps must be worn at all times during a game instead of giving them a fine after the fact? It would be different if the player knew that an unbuckled strap would cost his team 5 yards. In high school football you get a penalty every time you don’t have your chin strap buckled or your mouth piece in. It has happened to my team twice this year…Damn kids!

  • Joey Guns | October 17, 2007 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment="157666"]Just watched last week’s episode of Friday Night Lights…anyone in here watch it as well? Looks like the Panthers have new uniforms. Can’t remember if they were Under Armour last year…I’ll see if I can find a picture.[/quote]

    Yeah the jerseys look new. Here’s 3 pics and none of them show Under Armour jerseys:

    http://img.timeinc.n...

    http://tvshows4fans....

    http://memles.files....

  • Kevin | October 17, 2007 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment="157666"]Just watched last week’s episode of Friday Night Lights…anyone in here watch it as well? Looks like the Panthers have new uniforms. Can’t remember if they were Under Armour last year…I’ll see if I can find a picture.[/quote]
    I saw that too. It looks like Under Armour is sponsoring the team this year. I wonder what that cost UA to get there gear on the show? Regardless, the editors missed a continuity issue because the hippie fullback had on one jersey at the little meet and greet and had on an older, non UA jersey, when he was dragging that broads drunk father home. (I really gotta get out more and let the TiVo rest a while.)

  • Jim | October 17, 2007 at 10:55 am |

    Ron and Rich definately had FNOB when they were with the Flyers – can’t find any pics though!

  • John | October 17, 2007 at 10:58 am |

    Curses! Beaten to explaining the STOP patch!

    *shakes fist*

  • Joe S | October 17, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    From yesterday’s comments:
    [quote comment="157481"]…how do I link to that NFL Uniform Tourney? Thanx[/quote]

    That is my site, but I’m not sure what you mean by how do I link to it. It is located here:
    http://nflunitournam...

  • Nolan | October 17, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment="157644"]

    Sudden thought: Most of the players going unsnapped these days are black (including Ty Warren, the other Patriot who’s been fined). Could the league have singled out Brady simply to avoid charges of racism? Hmmmmm.

    I think it is just that most of the players who are outlandish and going against the grain right now happen to be black. There aren’t a lot of Brian Bosworths or Jim McMahons at the moment.[/quote]

    Tony Romo and Rex Grossman were into the practice of not buckling their low snaps last year. They are fully snapped up this year though. So that goes against the race issue. I’m sure there where more in the past as well. Those two just jump out in my mind

  • Richard from MA | October 17, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    The heated skate blade thing is completely pointless – are we sure it isn’t April first? If everyone has heated skate blades, then there’s no advantage to anyone, other that being able to slam someone into the boards with exponentially more force (F=MV^2).

  • Anthony Verna | October 17, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment="157704"]The heated skate blade thing is completely pointless – are we sure it isn’t April first? If everyone has heated skate blades, then there’s no advantage to anyone, other that being able to slam someone into the boards with exponentially more force (F=MV^2).[/quote]

    More violence with less fighting.

  • Joe | October 17, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment="157677"]

    A long-time NCAA Div.-I college trainer once told me that many players came to his school with no idea about how to properly wear their helmets, despite high school rules requiring all helmets to have “four-point” chinstraps buckled on every play…

    The trainer’s contention was that any football helmet should be slightly “tight” on the player (even with no chinstrap), so that it won’t come off during play. He also said that a “tight” helmet (of whatever manufacture) was better than a “loose” helmet at protecting against concussions, since the helmet’s padding is supposed to absorb any blows to the head.

    The problem? Wearing a “tight” helmet is uncomfortable after a while… once players get to the NFL and are no longer forced to wear the helmet size issued them by the trainers and equipment men in college, they wear “looser” helmets that are more likely to come off during play.
    [/quote]

    I’m pretty sure I screwed up the code in getting to this point, but here’s my 2 cents worth on this.

    A tight helmet isn’t necessarily better than a loose helmet. Because of the different shapes of heads and helmet fits, tight helmets can slide off easier than loose ones if they aren’t matched to the player correctly. And correctly fitting, but tight, helmets are only tight through about the first 3 days of practice when the players shed enough water to make their heads smaller and/or the padding loosens up a bit. The other piece of this is that older style helmets (meaning except the Revolution, ION, DNA, etc.) aren’t designed to protect against concussions. Design to cushion impacts and design to prevent concussions aren’t the same thing. (Sort of like design for aesthetics and design for functionality).

    Helmet fall offs are pretty predictable. They happen early in the season when it’s really hot and players are sweating a lot. Fall offs then taper down until the last week or two when it gets really cold and players start wearing skull caps under their helmets to keep warm. It’s much more a function of reduced friction than reduced chin strapping.

  • Tim | October 17, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment="157698"][quote comment="157666"]Just watched last week’s episode of Friday Night Lights…anyone in here watch it as well? Looks like the Panthers have new uniforms. Can’t remember if they were Under Armour last year…I’ll see if I can find a picture.[/quote]
    I saw that too. It looks like Under Armour is sponsoring the team this year. I wonder what that cost UA to get there gear on the show? Regardless, the editors missed a continuity issue because the hippie fullback had on one jersey at the little meet and greet and had on an older, non UA jersey, when he was dragging that broads drunk father home. (I really gotta get out more and let the TiVo rest a while.)[/quote]

    Under Armour’s logo was evident last year, but not on the game or practice jerseys, mostly just UA socks and wristbands, etc.

    New Practice Jerseys..
    http://www.fridaynig...
    Old Practice Jerseys..
    http://www.fridaynig...

  • Tim | October 17, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    Bad link…
    new practice jersey..
    http://www.fridaynig...

    old ones..
    http://www.fridaynig...

  • Mark in Shiga | October 17, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    Those STOP patches are hideous. They drive the number down the guy’s back — if there were names on the jerseys also, it would totally throw off the balance.

    Ugly and unnecessary.

  • dm00n | October 17, 2007 at 11:33 am |

    I mentioned previously here about Roy Williams being famously cheap with pizza delivery people. It seems Pizza Hut challenged him to spend an afternoon delivering pies, and he took them up on it. Good for him, but it came with some sort of bizarre lesson:

    After a few more questions and answers, the receiver reached into his pocket and pulled out a crumpled $100 bill. He held it high and asked the crowd of children who wanted it.

    Chaos ensued as the kids crushed up against the 6-foot-4 Williams, knocking him back a step. Some of the center’s employees had to act as human barricades.

    “Wow,” Williams turned and mouthed as the kids finally backed up.

    He had wanted to relate a story that no matter how crumpled something is, someone, somewhere is still going to want it. The moral of his story was lost. But Williams didn’t seem to mind.

    He is quickly turning into one of our weirder athletes in Detroit.

  • Cork | October 17, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    In regards to the chin strap. I am sure the first concern of the league is keeping the helmets on, but as a secondary concern, I am sure the league doesn’t think it is necessarily safe to have two 6-inch straps with a piece of metal on the end flapping in the wind on every play.

    How many times a game does one players helmet come in contact with another players helmet? It would be a long-shot, but not unimaginable, to think that one of those buckles could hit another player in the eye.

    you would hate to have a player injure an eye from this, and then have the league do something.

  • Richard from MA | October 17, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    The heated skate blade thing is completely pointless – are we sure it isn’t April first? If everyone has heated skate blades, then there’s no advantage to anyone, other that being able to slam someone into the boards with exponentially more force (F=MV^2).

    More violence with less fighting.

    And we all enjoy high levels of violence in hockey, but there’s also the endless concussions and broken bones that would ensue…

    I mean, I like the idea of more guys being crushed, but I think we’d see an awful lot of our favorite players in hospitals.

    Then again, I can name maybe four Bruins at this point, so what do I care? Bring on the heated blades, and let the SportsCenter-highlight-level boarding begin!

  • Jim | October 17, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment="157719"]Those STOP patches are hideous. They drive the number down the guy’s back — if there were names on the jerseys also, it would totally throw off the balance.

    Ugly and unnecessary.[/quote]
    Unnecessary? They honestly do help remind kids to stop…I live in Alaska (hockey crazy place) and I can assure you the stop signs have helped drill into many kids minds hitting from behind is not ok.

  • todd krevanchi | October 17, 2007 at 11:47 am |

    in one of last nights “made in america with john ratzenberger” episodes, they were at the schutt plant in illinois going over the helmet and facemask creation process… pretty neat if anyone saw it…

  • jsdryden | October 17, 2007 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment="157730"][quote comment="157719"]Those STOP patches are hideous. They drive the number down the guy’s back — if there were names on the jerseys also, it would totally throw off the balance.

    Ugly and unnecessary.[/quote]
    Unnecessary? They honestly do help remind kids to stop…I live in Alaska (hockey crazy place) and I can assure you the stop signs have helped drill into many kids minds hitting from behind is not ok.[/quote]

    The photo that Paul referenced is from a Team Canada (World Juniors) practice. This stop sign is only used on the practice sweater, and not on the actual game sweaters.

  • Orange and Blue | October 17, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    “This year’s World Series cap patch will look like this.”

    When are they going to stop this ridiculous practice? I have hated these WS patches even since they were first used in 1996 (?)…They look ridiculous and make the caps look off-center.

    WS patches on the sleeves? Fine. Patches on the caps? Silly looking.

  • Joe Drennan | October 17, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment="157730"][quote comment="157719"]Those STOP patches are hideous. They drive the number down the guy’s back — if there were names on the jerseys also, it would totally throw off the balance.

    Ugly and unnecessary.[/quote]
    Unnecessary? They honestly do help remind kids to stop…I live in Alaska (hockey crazy place) and I can assure you the stop signs have helped drill into many kids minds hitting from behind is not ok.[/quote]
    I think the incedent of checking from behind has gone down sinice the inception of the stop sign patches not because of the patches, but becasue of the education program that it’s a part of. Prior to the program a coach would shout out here and there, “if you see the numbers, don’t hit.” Now, because of the patches they have to explain to the kids why there is a stop sign on their back, and why it’s wrong to hit somebody from behind.

    The Amature Hocey Association of Illinois was the first to roll out the stop signs I think in 1999 after there were a rash of Illinois hockey players (mostly in high scholl) that wond up in wheel chairs because of checking from behind. I still remember our coach handing us 2 stop sign patches and telling us to have our moms sew them on before the next game.

  • Ronnie Poore | October 17, 2007 at 12:01 pm |

    heck, some quarterbacks didn’t need no sissy chinstraps:
    http://www.washingto...

  • Jason | October 17, 2007 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment="157690"]Some thoughts on the Sox v. Indians game. Travis Hafner’s head is so big that his helment looks like those little ice cream containing helmets you got as a little kid at Baskin and Robbins. Then up to bat he looks like BALD BULL from Mike Tyson’s Punch Out. He has got to be juiced.

    Speaking of the Indians. I appreciate the incredible mascots and traditions of the MLB, but Cleveland needs to get a new mascot. The cartoon character is straight out of the movie Bamboozled. The fans were even dressed up with painted faces. I can’t believe that in this day and age that the American public will tolerate it. It is honestly amazing.[/quote]

    Pronk’s not juicing. He’s just a big country boy. His parents made the trip from North Dakota to watch him play the Twins. They showed his pop on TV and he is a massive man. Travis gets it honest.

  • Kevin | October 17, 2007 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment="157719"]Those STOP patches are hideous. They drive the number down the guy’s back — if there were names on the jerseys also, it would totally throw off the balance.

    Ugly and unnecessary.[/quote]

    1) They’re on the practice jerseys only, not the game ones, except in youth hockey.

    2) They have been proven to reduce the incidence of checking from behind, and thus injuries.

    3) Yes, they’re ugly, but when we’re talking about kiddie rec sports, everything takes a back seat to safety.

  • Manzell | October 17, 2007 at 12:19 pm |

    Sudden thought: Most of the players going unsnapped these days are black (including Ty Warren, the other Patriot who’s been fined). Could the league have singled out Brady simply to avoid charges of racism? Hmmmmm.

    Wait, Tom Brady’s not black?

  • Jason Axel | October 17, 2007 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment="157693"]Round 2 of CBS’s RBK Edge tournament is up. You’ll all be pleased to know Vancouver made it past the first round.[/quote]

    That whole thing is a travesty because a)the red wings were the 5 seed and LOST to the stars…bullcrap…and b) the maple leafs were the 6 seed and they lost to the canucks…..what is wrong in this world that the original teams lose in something to such ugly uniforms?

    im depressed now…

  • Stephen Colbert | October 17, 2007 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment="157749"]Sudden thought: Most of the players going unsnapped these days are black (including Ty Warren, the other Patriot who’s been fined). Could the league have singled out Brady simply to avoid charges of racism? Hmmmmm.

    Wait, Tom Brady’s not black?[/quote]
    I, myself, don’t see race. I don’t see color. Is Tom Brady black? Or white? I can’t tell. By the way, vote for me in 2008!

  • Patrick | October 17, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    Concerning Patrick Carpentier’s jersey, it’s a Canadian’s jersey because Evernham Motorsports, the team the Carpentier races for, just partnered with George Gillett – owner of the Montreal Canadians.

    The back number is also team specific. Evernham styles all his cars numbers the same. You can see it here on Kasey Kahne’s #9, Elliot Sadler’s #19, and the #10 car which will be driven by Carpentier next year.

  • joe | October 17, 2007 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment="157730"][quote comment="157719"]Those STOP patches are hideous. They drive the number down the guy’s back — if there were names on the jerseys also, it would totally throw off the balance.

    Ugly and unnecessary.[/quote]
    Unnecessary? They honestly do help remind kids to stop…I live in Alaska (hockey crazy place) and I can assure you the stop signs have helped drill into many kids minds hitting from behind is not ok.[/quote]
    its also makes them stop doing it by taking them off the ice if they do it, even w/o a stupid stop sign.

  • neil | October 17, 2007 at 12:29 pm |

    With regards to the STOP patches on the hockey uniforms, I seem to remember that it stands for “Safety Towards Other Players”. In the minor hockey games I officiate, players are not allowed to play if their uniform doesn’t have a STOP patch on the back.

  • trevor | October 17, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment="157694"]Why doesn’t the NFL institute a rule that chin straps must be worn at all times during a game instead of giving them a fine after the fact? [/quote]

    Because the referee and all the other on field officials already have enough shit they have to look out for without having to check and see if each and every single player has their chinstrap properly fastened. if you’re going to make that rule, then you have to go ahead and make the officials on the field also call penalties on other uniform related violations, like improper socks/footwear.

  • Mike | October 17, 2007 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment="157754"][quote comment="157730"][quote comment="157719"]Those STOP patches are hideous. They drive the number down the guy’s back — if there were names on the jerseys also, it would totally throw off the balance.

    Ugly and unnecessary.[/quote]
    Unnecessary? They honestly do help remind kids to stop…I live in Alaska (hockey crazy place) and I can assure you the stop signs have helped drill into many kids minds hitting from behind is not ok.[/quote]
    its also makes them stop doing it by taking them off the ice if they do it, even w/o a stupid stop sign.[/quote]
    What if that one time before they get taken off the ice they really hurt a kid? I’m sometimes amazed at the shallowness of people…you seriously are for getting rid of something that has proven to help keep players safe because of aesthetics? People need to get their priorities in order, seriously.

    This whole stop sign business would be like arguing that we should take warnings of cigarette packs because they make the box look bad.

  • Nuk | October 17, 2007 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment="157751"][quote comment="157693"]Round 2 of CBS’s RBK Edge tournament is up. You’ll all be pleased to know Vancouver made it past the first round.[/quote]

    That whole thing is a travesty because a)the red wings were the 5 seed and LOST to the stars…bullcrap…and b) the maple leafs were the 6 seed and they lost to the canucks…..what is wrong in this world that the original teams lose in something to such ugly uniforms?

    im depressed now…[/quote]

    Because Toronto’s uniforms are dull and boring pajamas. Blue jerseys with blue pants with no striping make the team look like (a quote from my wife) “like they’re wearing blue snowsuits”. I’m going to have to get her a UniWatch Membership for Christmas. Toronto’s old uniforms were classic.

    I’m with you on the Red Wings though.

    And the Canucks uniforms are really growing on me – they look good on TV.

  • Timothy B | October 17, 2007 at 12:47 pm |

    Some patch thoughts:

    MLB has just about hit rock bottom with their World Series patches. Borrring. I know it’s tough for MLB, they don’t have a fixed site where their championship is held, like the NFL. So the patch can’t reflect the cities involved in the Series (or why couldn’t it?).

    But that patch is about as generic as generic gets. It looks like a patch you would buy out of a black Hefty bag from a guy in the stadium parking lot. The same guy hawking the $5 t-shirts.

    As far as the hockey patches: None sweeter than the Winnipeg Jets patches. Nice layout and depiction of their logo history. All inside a patch. Sweet.

  • Mike from Queens | October 17, 2007 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment="157638"]Im almost positive that the Sutters had FNOB with the Blues, because Im pretty sure Ive seen them….time to do some research[/quote]

    Check out yesterday’s comments for one of the Sutters FNOB jerseys.

    [quote comment="157736"]“This year’s World Series cap patch will look like this.”

    When are they going to stop this ridiculous practice? I have hated these WS patches even since they were first used in 1996 (?)…They look ridiculous and make the caps look off-center.

    WS patches on the sleeves? Fine. Patches on the caps? Silly looking.[/quote]

    Totally agree. I don’t think anyone needs to be reminded every time they look at someone’s head that, yes, this is the World Series. The jersey patches I get, but the cap patch is always too big and clunky. Sleeve patches I don’t mind. There’s usually shit all over the jerseys anyways, so it’s not as glaring compared to that monstrosity on the cap.

  • hott rodd | October 17, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    i just have to commend Paul on the EXCELLENT headline…

  • DJ | October 17, 2007 at 12:59 pm |

    Will the green ND throwback jerseys will have the names on the back, like the ‘77 jerseys did?

    The 77 green jerseys did not have names on the back, as they were ordered on short notice. The names were returned for the New Year’s Day 1978 Cotton Bowl game against Texas. Devine had names on the back of the new set of green jerseys for the 1978 season, and the green color and names remained throughout his time as head coach.

    Weis prefers the darker shade of green that they have worn the last two seasons to the lighter shade they will wear Saturday; but his comments were somewhat joking. He was a student at the time of the game.

  • Marty Met | October 17, 2007 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment="157751"][quote comment="157693"]Round 2 of CBS’s RBK Edge tournament is up. You’ll all be pleased to know Vancouver made it past the first round.[/quote]

    That whole thing is a travesty because a)the red wings were the 5 seed and LOST to the stars…bullcrap…and b) the maple leafs were the 6 seed and they lost to the canucks…..what is wrong in this world that the original teams lose in something to such ugly uniforms?

    im depressed now…[/quote]

    It’s a travesty because the Devils are NOT included. One of the best sweaters in the league

  • Trevor Kruger | October 17, 2007 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment="157658"]Nebraska’s defensive players have decided to stop wearing their black practice jerseys. They have been awarded to defensive starters and select other players since 1962. They feel they don’t deserve them at the moment.[/quote]
    hahahahahahahaha. the blackshirts are dead. not a big deal, just one of the biggest traditions in college football.

  • JT | October 17, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    I’ve got a question relating to the NFL strap fines. What are the league rules for mouth guards? I was watching the Washington/Green Bay game last weekend, and for at least the first two Washington series, QB Jason Campbell had his mouthguard stuck in the top of his facemask (usually on the right hand side, but for some plays it was on the left). It certainly didn’t appear that he was putting it in for plays, as it was still there as he was handing the ball off. It really doesn’t seem like it’s doing it’s job stuck there.

    At first I thought he might stick it in on a play where he’s likely to get hit, but that would be a big tip off to the defense that there is a pass coming, but on pass plays, there it stayed.

  • Doug judson | October 17, 2007 at 1:21 pm |

    I’ve got a question relating to the NFL strap fines. What are the league rules for mouth guards? I was watching the Washington/Green Bay game last weekend, and for at least the first two Washington series, QB Jason Campbell had his mouthguard stuck in the top of his facemask (usually on the right hand side, but for some plays it was on the left). It certainly didn’t appear that he was putting it in for plays, as it was still there as he was handing the ball off. It really doesn’t seem like it’s doing it’s job stuck there.

    At first I thought he might stick it in on a play where he’s likely to get hit, but that would be a big tip off to the defense that there is a pass coming, but on pass plays, there it stayed.

    I could be wrong but I think i remember that mouth guards are not required at the pro level. Anyone?

  • DJ | October 17, 2007 at 1:25 pm |

    hahahahahahahaha. the blackshirts are dead. not a big deal, just one of the biggest traditions in college football.

    From the article you linked to, it appears that when Nebraska improves, the black shirts will return.

  • Hama | October 17, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    The STOP/Respect Patches have been mandatory on the jerseys for all Canadian Minor Hockey teams for at least the least 10 years IIRC. It’s also a good reminder about the checking from behind rule in Canada. If you get call for checking from behind in a minor hockey game, it’s a 2 or 5 minute penalty PLUS a game misconduct.

    But as mentioned above, it’s also part of the education program about safety in general in Canadian Minor Hockey and more about awareness in general, not just the situation in particular

  • Doug judson | October 17, 2007 at 1:36 pm |

    Mouthguards a not required by the NFL

    Players must wear helmets and shoulder pads. But despite the brutality of the game, knee, thigh, hip and rib pads or mouth guards aren’t required.

    “There’s nothing written out that specifies how pads need to be,” Broncos equipment manager Chris Valenti said. “Some guys want less pads, some guys want more. Some guys have medical issues, some don’t.”

    The NCAA mandates that college players must wear thigh, knee, hip and tailbone pads, as well as a mouthpiece.

  • Daryk | October 17, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    The patches on the backs of the Team Canada jerseys say “Respect”, not stop.

  • Philly Bill | October 17, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment="157660"]Okay, apropos of nothing, here’s a somewhat uni-related question that occurred to me about something that seems to have changed without me noticing it until now: Not that long ago, pitchers routinely wore jackets when running the bases, even in fairly warm weather. Now it seems like you rarely see a pitcher who reaches base don a jacket, even on chilly nights. Why is that?[/quote]

    It’s just because there is so little National League baseball on national TV anymore, with the media dominance of the Red Sox and Yankees.

  • Philly Bill | October 17, 2007 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment="157776"]At first I thought he might stick it in on a play where he’s likely to get hit, but that would be a big tip off to the defense that there is a pass coming, but on pass plays, there it stayed.[/quote]

    I’m sure Bill Belichick has a staffer looking into this as we speak.

    [quote comment="157791"]The patches on the backs of the Team Canada jerseys say “Respect”, not stop.[/quote]

    Any red octagon implies “stop”, doesn’t it? Soon they’ll just slap some golden arches in there instead like they do in Europe. Or another Swooshtika.

    [quote comment="157770"]Round 2 of CBS’s RBK Edge tournament is up. You’ll all be pleased to know Vancouver made it past the first round.[/quote]

    It’s a travesty because the Devils are NOT included. One of the best sweaters in the league[/quote]

    And who made Columbus a 16 seed? It’s based on uniforms, not talent. Baldershast, says I!
    Those are the best redesigns in the league.

  • Kyle O. | October 17, 2007 at 1:50 pm |

    Why are the Oregon players wearing Purple practice jerseys? I would have thought there would wear green. Also on the jereseys, anyone have any idea why some of the numbers on the purple jerseys are yellow and some are white?

  • Tricia | October 17, 2007 at 1:51 pm |

    Hockey Canada puts the Stop symbols on their elite team practice jerseys as part of a top-down approach to eradicate hits from behind. Sure, the kids in the CHL know why they aren’t supposed to hit from behind, but seeing it on jerseys all the way through the system drills the point in to kids who watch as well.

    Minor hockey jerseys typically say ‘Stop’, but Hockey Canada’s say ‘Respect’ as pointed out earlier.

    Check out the guys sitting down

    Better Picture

  • Matt Lesser | October 17, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    Cincinnati has two different colored captains patches.

    Orange: http://assets.bengal...

    Black: http://assets.bengal...

    Although the orange doesn’t exactly appear to match in that photo…

  • Jerico | October 17, 2007 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment="157741"]heck, some quarterbacks didn’t need no sissy chinstraps:
    http://www.washingto...

    Yeah, he and Sonny Jurgensen (in the beautiful spear-and-feather helmet)

  • Shaftman | October 17, 2007 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment="157804"]Cincinnati has two different colored captains patches.

    Orange: http://assets.bengal...

    Black: http://assets.bengal...

    Although the orange doesn’t exactly appear to match in that photo…[/quote]

    But remember, the orange patch is on their alternate. Just as the red Giants patch was designed for their alternate red jersey’s. I think their white jerseys have the black patch, like their black jersey’s. I can’t find any pics to prove this though.

    Are there any teams out there that have different colored patches for their regular home and away jersey’s?

  • Matt Takimoto "Tako" | October 17, 2007 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment="157797"]Why are the Oregon players wearing Purple practice jerseys? I would have thought there would wear green. Also on the jereseys, anyone have any idea why some of the numbers on the purple jerseys are yellow and some are white?[/quote]

    the ducks are playing washington this week, and that’s the scout team. last week they wore maroon jerseys in preparation for the washington state game.
    another thing, couldn’t they debut the white helmets when they’re out of the bcs picture completely? if this is another vegas bowl and we lose on saturday, i’m blaming Uncle Phil.

  • Bill | October 17, 2007 at 2:12 pm |

    According to this page: http://www.uniformvi..., chin straps must be completely buckled and must be white in color, mouth guards are not required.

  • dm00n | October 17, 2007 at 2:13 pm |

    Captaincy note from Giants equipment director Joe Skiba: “The NFL sent us blue [captain’s] patches for home and road jerseys, and some red ones for the red jerseys. But I called the league and got permission to use the red patches for the away uniforms.

    That reminds me, watching the Giants play last weekend I was struck by how different their road and home uniforms are. Are their any other teams whose jerseys feature completely different colors? (Looking at those photos, I guess I forgot the home jersey features a minuscule red triangle to frame the NFL Equipment logo). But setting aside white, the jerseys are totally different.

    And also, what is the point of those road pants? They are barely different from the home pants, just enough to make you look at them and think there is something weird going on.

  • Aaron | October 17, 2007 at 2:15 pm |

    check out what the rockies are doin w/ the world series patch

    same as the pirates w/ their all star patch

  • dm00n | October 17, 2007 at 2:16 pm |

    The new uniform belonging to Roy Williams of the Detroit Lions.

  • Aaron | October 17, 2007 at 2:16 pm |

    new at links, sorry

  • Henry | October 17, 2007 at 2:16 pm |

    Oh baby… chin strap discussions!

    Here’s the deal: the “safety” problem with the unbuckled chinstrap doesn’t really apply to the 4 point “low” hookup (like McNabb) because unbuckling the bottom strap(s) effectively turns it into a 2 point strap, which is legal.

    However, as was mentioned above, if you have a 4 point “high” hookup, the position of the straps is such that you need all four straps buckled. Thus, if you don’t buckle one of the lower straps, there is a greater risk of your helmet coming off upon getting hit.

    My question is: does it matter if the player has an actual buckle attached to the offending strap? In Warren’s case, there is no (metal) buckle even attached to the offending strap, so there is no way he can buckle it (sort of a “premeditated violation”, if you will). However, in Brady’s case, he has a buckle on the offending strap, and likely just forgot (or chose not) to buckle it up during the game…

  • Shaftman | October 17, 2007 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment="157807"][quote comment="157804"]Cincinnati has two different colored captains patches.

    Orange: http://assets.bengal...

    Black: http://assets.bengal...

    Although the orange doesn’t exactly appear to match in that photo…[/quote]

    But remember, the orange patch is on their alternate. Just as the red Giants patch was designed for their alternate red jersey’s. I think their white jerseys have the black patch, like their black jersey’s. I can’t find any pics to prove this though.

    Are there any teams out there that have different colored patches for their regular home and away jersey’s?[/quote]

    I’m quoting myself but…

    I found a pic that is interesting. Apparently you are correct that they have differnt patches for home and away. But it looks like the Bengals actually have three colored patches.

    Black – Black Jersey
    Orange – Orange Jersey

    White – White Jersey

  • dm00n | October 17, 2007 at 2:18 pm |

    Lions are a same color C patch team. Blue for both regular jerseys.

  • Shaftman | October 17, 2007 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment="157816"][quote comment="157807"][quote comment="157804"]Cincinnati has two different colored captains patches.

    Orange: http://assets.bengal...

    Black: http://assets.bengal...

    Although the orange doesn’t exactly appear to match in that photo…[/quote]

    But remember, the orange patch is on their alternate. Just as the red Giants patch was designed for their alternate red jersey’s. I think their white jerseys have the black patch, like their black jersey’s. I can’t find any pics to prove this though.

    Are there any teams out there that have different colored patches for their regular home and away jersey’s?[/quote]

    I’m quoting myself but…

    I found a pic that is interesting. Apparently you are correct that they have differnt patches for home and away. But it looks like the Bengals actually have three colored patches.

    Black – Black Jersey
    Orange – Orange Jersey

    White – White Jersey[/quote]

    …and I’m quoting myself again.

    I’m an idiot. The patches on the white and black jersey’s are the same. (The background color threw me off.) So we are back at square one where the Giants are the only (known) team to have different colored patches for their standard home and away jersey’s.

  • Joe S | October 17, 2007 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment="157798"]Hockey Canada puts the Stop symbols on their elite team practice jerseys as part of a top-down approach to eradicate hits from behind. Sure, the kids in the CHL know why they aren’t supposed to hit from behind, but seeing it on jerseys all the way through the system drills the point in to kids who watch as well.

    Minor hockey jerseys typically say ‘Stop’, but Hockey Canada’s say ‘Respect’ as pointed out earlier.

    Check out the guys sitting down

    Better Picture[/quote]

    RESPEK!

  • Kyle O. | October 17, 2007 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment="157808"][quote comment="157797"]Why are the Oregon players wearing Purple practice jerseys? I would have thought there would wear green. Also on the jereseys, anyone have any idea why some of the numbers on the purple jerseys are yellow and some are white?[/quote]

    the ducks are playing washington this week, and that’s the scout team. last week they wore maroon jerseys in preparation for the washington state game.
    another thing, couldn’t they debut the white helmets when they’re out of the bcs picture completely? if this is another vegas bowl and we lose on saturday, i’m blaming Uncle Phil.[/quote]
    Also just notices other than the two different colors on the purple jersey but one guy on the left is wearing yellow pants.

  • Jason Reynolds | October 17, 2007 at 2:38 pm |

    Favre unbuckles his after every play. http://www.fantasyfo...

    http://johnlarroquet...

    I’ve noticed in the past he sometimes unbuckles it before the play is even over.

    Interesting because he wore the 4-strap in college at Southern Miss:
    http://images.dawgsp...

    And with the Falcons:(interestingly with the top straps outside of the facemask)
    http://graphics.json...

  • UW justin | October 17, 2007 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment="157808"][quote comment="157797"]Why are the Oregon players wearing Purple practice jerseys? I would have thought there would wear green. Also on the jereseys, anyone have any idea why some of the numbers on the purple jerseys are yellow and some are white?[/quote]

    the ducks are playing washington this week, and that’s the scout team. last week they wore maroon jerseys in preparation for the washington state game.
    another thing, couldn’t they debut the white helmets when they’re out of the bcs picture completely? if this is another vegas bowl and we lose on saturday, i’m blaming Uncle Phil.[/quote]

    I would love another Oregon Vegas Bowl type performance. :)

  • Luke | October 17, 2007 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment="157704"]The heated skate blade thing is completely pointless – are we sure it isn’t April first? If everyone has heated skate blades, then there’s no advantage to anyone, other that being able to slam someone into the boards with exponentially more force (F=MV^2).[/quote]
    The idea is that it would make the game faster, something the league is always trying to do.

  • Doug | October 17, 2007 at 2:48 pm |

    New UF basketball unis for the two-time defending champs (God, that’s PAINFUL to say for a UGA alum!!)?

  • Doug | October 17, 2007 at 2:49 pm |

    http://www.secfanati...

    Sorry, forgot the link

  • scott | October 17, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment="157835"]New UF basketball unis for the two-time defending champs (God, that’s PAINFUL to say for a UGA alum!!)?[/quote]
    [quote comment="157836"]http://www.secfanatics.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=34905

    Sorry, forgot the link[/quote]

    Dude, that pic looks like some high school kids playin dress up. Are you sure that’s the real team????

  • SoCalPVguy | October 17, 2007 at 2:56 pm |

    Notre Dame to wear retro 1977 kelly green jersies Saturday vs. USC. It won’t matter for the 1-6 Irish.

  • SoCalPVguy | October 17, 2007 at 2:56 pm |

    Here’s the link:

    http://www.southbend...

  • Chance | October 17, 2007 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment="157736"]“This year’s World Series cap patch will look like this.”

    When are they going to stop this ridiculous practice? I have hated these WS patches even since they were first used in 1996 (?)…They look ridiculous and make the caps look off-center.

    WS patches on the sleeves? Fine. Patches on the caps? Silly looking.[/quote]

    I agree completely, but have to admit that if/when my Brewers ever get back to the Fall Classic, I’ll be more than happy to buy a royal blue cap with the WS patch on the side….

  • todd krevanchi | October 17, 2007 at 3:10 pm |

    has anyone linked to the schutt website yet on the ion 4d?
    http://www.schuttspo...

  • Nolan | October 17, 2007 at 3:11 pm |

    Seems like a good day to explore Tom Brady’s chin strap history:

    Here he is in an Adams high hook up configuration. Note the position of the high snaps-in the middle of Elvis’ face.

    Adams 4 point low hookup.

    Different high snap position-in front of Elvis

    Current look: the high snap is under Elvis and very high.

    Most interesting configuration. Riddell Hard cup high hookup using the low front snaps for the bottom straps.

  • Christopher | October 17, 2007 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment="157811"]check out what the rockies are doin w/ the world series patch

    same as the pirates w/ their all star patch[/quote]

    Just as I thought one could not ugly-up that black jersey any more.

    Sigh.

  • dm00n | October 17, 2007 at 3:14 pm |

    30th anniv. ND Montana jersey.

    Now I see what they mean by the green.

  • Alan | October 17, 2007 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment="157712"][quote comment="157677"]

    A long-time NCAA Div.-I college trainer once told me that many players came to his school with no idea about how to properly wear their helmets, despite high school rules requiring all helmets to have “four-point” chinstraps buckled on every play…

    The trainer’s contention was that any football helmet should be slightly “tight” on the player (even with no chinstrap), so that it won’t come off during play. He also said that a “tight” helmet (of whatever manufacture) was better than a “loose” helmet at protecting against concussions, since the helmet’s padding is supposed to absorb any blows to the head.

    The problem? Wearing a “tight” helmet is uncomfortable after a while… once players get to the NFL and are no longer forced to wear the helmet size issued them by the trainers and equipment men in college, they wear “looser” helmets that are more likely to come off during play.
    [/quote]

    I’m pretty sure I screwed up the code in getting to this point, but here’s my 2 cents worth on this.

    A tight helmet isn’t necessarily better than a loose helmet. Because of the different shapes of heads and helmet fits, tight helmets can slide off easier than loose ones if they aren’t matched to the player correctly. And correctly fitting, but tight, helmets are only tight through about the first 3 days of practice when the players shed enough water to make their heads smaller and/or the padding loosens up a bit. The other piece of this is that older style helmets (meaning except the Revolution, ION, DNA, etc.) aren’t designed to protect against concussions. Design to cushion impacts and design to prevent concussions aren’t the same thing. (Sort of like design for aesthetics and design for functionality).

    Helmet fall offs are pretty predictable. They happen early in the season when it’s really hot and players are sweating a lot. Fall offs then taper down until the last week or two when it gets really cold and players start wearing skull caps under their helmets to keep warm. It’s much more a function of reduced friction than reduced chin strapping.[/quote]

    This was actually the reason I quit playing football in high school. My helmet was so tight that it cause parts of my head to go numb–especially the top of the forehead. The coach was such a dick about it and refused to let me switch. After a few practices, it was too much to bear and I left the team. Coaches should be better trained about things like this. Just having a helmet doesn’t solve the problem-it needs to be properly adjusted to the player.

  • tc | October 17, 2007 at 3:21 pm |

    another logo that utilizes negative space

  • Pat | October 17, 2007 at 3:21 pm |

    [quote comment="157848"]Seems like a good day to explore Tom Brady’s chin strap history:

    Here he is in an Adams high hook up configuration. Note the position of the high snaps-in the middle of Elvis’ face.

    Adams 4 point low hookup.

    Different high snap position-in front of Elvis

    Current look: the high snap is under Elvis and very high.

    Most interesting configuration. Riddell Hard cup high hookup using the low front snaps for the bottom straps.[/quote]

    Just goes to show you, the man can do anything. Doesn’t even matter how he wears his chin strap.

  • Pat | October 17, 2007 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment="157854"]another logo that utilizes negative space[/quote]

    Not exactly negative space. It’s a good use of an image inside another image. Using negative space is when the parts that aren’t the image make up another image. Like the arrow in the FedEx logo. It’s made up of the space between the lower case e and the x. Just so you don’t have your terms all mixed up.

  • Joe Drennan | October 17, 2007 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment="157856"][quote comment="157854"]another logo that utilizes negative space[/quote]

    Not exactly negative space. It’s a good use of an image inside another image. Using negative space is when the parts that aren’t the image make up another image. Like the arrow in the FedEx logo. It’s made up of the space between the lower case e and the x. Just so you don’t have your terms all mixed up.[/quote]
    That’s a pretty sweet logo.

  • Banker Bill | October 17, 2007 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment="157857"][quote comment="157856"][quote comment="157854"]another logo that utilizes negative space[/quote]

    Not exactly negative space. It’s a good use of an image inside another image. Using negative space is when the parts that aren’t the image make up another image. Like the arrow in the FedEx logo. It’s made up of the space between the lower case e and the x. Just so you don’t have your terms all mixed up.[/quote]
    That’s a pretty sweet logo.[/quote]

    Too bad we won’t be able to see it for a while – the NLL has cancelled their 2008 season because of CBA issues.

  • Joe Drennan | October 17, 2007 at 3:32 pm |

    This was actually the reason I quit playing football in high school. My helmet was so tight that it cause parts of my head to go numb–especially the top of the forehead. The coach was such a dick about it and refused to let me switch. After a few practices, it was too much to bear and I left the team. Coaches should be better trained about things like this. Just having a helmet doesn’t solve the problem-it needs to be properly adjusted to the player.

    As a high school hockey coach, (taking a year off to spend time with my baby daughter) when we hand out equipment at the begining of the season we intentionaly properly fit each player. Hockey helmets are a little easier to fit as they come in small/medium/large and are also adjustable, but we also tighten up the chin strap, and make sure their cage fits properly i.e. doesn’t hand too low below their ching, but rather their chin rests in the chin cup in the cage. We also make sure each helmet has what we refer to as the cage hooks which are little hooks on the side of the helmet that stop the cage from getting shashed into the players chin.

    To many times high school hockey players like a snug helmet, but leave their chin strap as loos as possible, then try and use an over sized cage with the straps of that as loose as possible. This simply allows for the helmet to fall off, as well as leaves the player vulnerable to injury.

  • MICHAEL | October 17, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    I THINK MARCUS ALLEN ALWAYS WORE HIS TOP LEFT STRAP UNDONE ON THE LOW FOUR CHIN STRAP.

  • Robert | October 17, 2007 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment="157774"][quote comment="157658"]Nebraska’s defensive players have decided to stop wearing their black practice jerseys. They have been awarded to defensive starters and select other players since 1962. They feel they don’t deserve them at the moment.[/quote]
    hahahahahahahaha. the blackshirts are dead. not a big deal, just one of the biggest traditions in college football.[/quote]

    Not dead, I suspect. I’m sure that they will return if the team’s defense ever gets its act together.

    While we are on the subject, it is worth nothing that the Blackshirts are a fine example of how the best traditions are created inadvertently and not created by a marketing department.

    Back in the early 1960s, an assistant coach was dispatched to a local sporting goods store to get some practice jerseys. The store did not have enough of the correct color, so he ended up buying some black jerseys. The starters on defense were assigned them, and before you know it, a tradition was born.

  • Kerry | October 17, 2007 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment="157857"][quote comment="157856"][quote comment="157854"]another logo that utilizes negative space[/quote]

    Not exactly negative space. It’s a good use of an image inside another image. Using negative space is when the parts that aren’t the image make up another image. Like the arrow in the FedEx logo. It’s made up of the space between the lower case e and the x. Just so you don’t have your terms all mixed up.[/quote]
    That’s a pretty sweet logo.[/quote]
    Nice. Cool use of the front for a “T”…but I like the blue empire state building at the top of the helmet.

  • Joe S | October 17, 2007 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment="157843"][quote comment="157736"]“This year’s World Series cap patch will look like this.”

    When are they going to stop this ridiculous practice? I have hated these WS patches even since they were first used in 1996 (?)…They look ridiculous and make the caps look off-center.

    WS patches on the sleeves? Fine. Patches on the caps? Silly looking.[/quote]

    I agree completely, but have to admit that if/when my Brewers ever get back to the Fall Classic, I’ll be more than happy to buy a royal blue cap with the WS patch on the side….[/quote]

    And that is exactly why they do it! I was going to say something about it selling more hats, but you said it perfectly!

  • Steve | October 17, 2007 at 3:41 pm |

    I am fairly certain that Randy Moss was wearing a Raiders Do-rag during this past sunday’s game vs. the cowboys. I don’t have any visual proof yet but if anyone could help me out that would be great.

  • JeffB | October 17, 2007 at 3:48 pm |

    Before buying any patches from River City Sports in the link posted in the ticker, check ebay first.

    The fact that River City has marked their patches down 50% just brings them in line with everyone else on ebay.

    True, River CIty does have some patches you cannot find on ebay, but their shipping charges are borderline criminal and they should only really be used for things you cannot find elsewhere, even at 50% off.

    Add the patches to your cart and proceed to the checkout area, but BE SURE TO READ THE SHIPPING COST before confirming your order and always compare to the final ebay prices with shipping when you can.

  • dm00n | October 17, 2007 at 3:59 pm |

    This was actually the reason I quit playing football in high school. My helmet was so tight that it cause parts of my head to go numb–especially the top of the forehead. The coach was such a dick about it and refused to let me switch. After a few practices, it was too much to bear and I left the team. Coaches should be better trained about things like this. Just having a helmet doesn’t solve the problem-it needs to be properly adjusted to the player.

    When I played if they could get the helmet on your head and not shake it around too much you were good to go. I am not sure if they had any formal training in properly fitting a helmet. I always assumed I had a weirdly shaped head, because they never fit right.

    I once was knocked out in an old Schutt Air, but it wasn’t really the helmet’s fault. On a kick-off I dove in front of a blocker to try to grab the ball carrier who was crossing behind him. I ended up basically doing what Trent Green did on his latest injury – knee to the head, head to the ground. Only for me everything went black and then immediately came back (it was weird because it went from black to bright white and the sound of the field was like someone turning up a volume knob). I couldn’t initially remember which sideline was mine and couldn’t remember any plays when I got there. Fortunately for me, I hardly ever played anything but special teams.

    In the 3rd and 4th quarters my head was aching and I was keeping my helmet propped up on my head a bit (we were never allowed to remove our helmets on the sideline or the field). After the game I couldn’t sleep and I went to the hospital and was told I had a mild concussion and should not practice.

    I told my coach the next day that I couldn’t practice (this was a JV game, on Thursday) and he a) couldn’t believe I didn’t mention this during the game, and b) told me to never, ever do it again. I guess tying back into the hockey patches, it is good to teach kids about serious injuries and how to avoid them. Also what do to if something happens, and to at least feel comfortable having it looked at.

    In my case, I didn’t say anything because (as my dad would say) I had “my bell rung” and was not a complete pussy. Of course it never dawned on me that the fact that for a few moments I wasn’t even sure what team I was on could be a really bad thing. Besides being knocked silly, I had the added handicap of being young and stupid to start with.

  • Nuk | October 17, 2007 at 4:03 pm |

    Another FNOB for Paul - with the bonus of it including the odd nameplate/font the WHA tended to use

  • dm00n | October 17, 2007 at 4:04 pm |

    I am fairly certain that Randy Moss was wearing a Raiders Do-rag during this past sunday’s game vs. the cowboys. I don’t have any visual proof yet but if anyone could help me out that would be great.

    I don’t know about the cap, but have you ever wondered about the news media and how they choose to use photos? Every once in awhile they will use the most unflattering picture of someone to illustrate a news story. Consider Randy Moss looking like something out of the Mummy, currently accompanying the main story on Yahoo’s NFL page.

  • AJ Connelly | October 17, 2007 at 4:18 pm |

    Oh my God! Oh my God! Oh my God! I feel like it’s my birthday or something! Chinstrap discussion all over the place! Firstly kudos to the guys who picked up on Brady’s constant changing of his chinstrap and Favre’s weird method of fitting his during college, did anyone pick up on the fact that Favre wore an EGOP facemask in college and with the Falcons? I’ve never ever seen a QB wear one before or since.

    As for the un-buckled style thing, blame Deion Sanders! He almost never buckled one of the lower straps on his chinstrap and ever since then, any guy who has Neon Deion aspirations (DeAngelo Hall, Jason Sehorn, Ty Law and Ray Lewis to name but a few) has left one strap loose. I think Sanders almost always had a buckle attached, but at least once while with the Ravens he had a bare strap. Also notice on McNabb’s loose straps the buckles are right on the ends of the strap and not tightened, which is how they look fresh out of the box so it seems he never intended to buckle them.

    One final thing, chinstrap subterfuge, I remember Kurt Warner (whilst with the Rams and versus the 49ers) using his chinstrap as part of a playfake, goaline situation and Warner backed up from center and began to walk to the sideline, unbuckling his chinstrap as he went. The Rams during that period were infamous for wasting timeouts early in games so the 49ers defenders all went down on one knee and stopped paying attention as the center snapped the ball directly to a fully buckled Marshall Faulk who ran in untouched for a score, that was nirvana for someone like me. The unbuckling sold it!

  • jesse | October 17, 2007 at 4:21 pm |

    I was scrolling through collegejersey.com, and I found this, which purports to be a game worn gold Notre Dame jersey. Have I lost it, did I miss it, or what is the deal?

  • Rick | October 17, 2007 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment="157875"]Oh my God! Oh my God! Oh my God! I feel like it’s my birthday or something! Chinstrap discussion all over the place! Firstly kudos to the guys who picked up on Brady’s constant changing of his chinstrap and Favre’s weird method of fitting his during college, did anyone pick up on the fact that Favre wore an EGOP facemask in college and with the Falcons? I’ve never ever seen a QB wear one before or since.

    As for the un-buckled style thing, blame Deion Sanders! He almost never buckled one of the lower straps on his chinstrap and ever since then, any guy who has Neon Deion aspirations (DeAngelo Hall, Jason Sehorn, Ty Law and Ray Lewis to name but a few) has left one strap loose. I think Sanders almost always had a buckle attached, but at least once while with the Ravens he had a bare strap. Also notice on McNabb’s loose straps the buckles are right on the ends of the strap and not tightened, which is how they look fresh out of the box so it seems he never intended to buckle them.

    One final thing, chinstrap subterfuge, I remember Kurt Warner (whilst with the Rams and versus the 49ers) using his chinstrap as part of a playfake, goaline situation and Warner backed up from center and began to walk to the sideline, unbuckling his chinstrap as he went. The Rams during that period were infamous for wasting timeouts early in games so the 49ers defenders all went down on one knee and stopped paying attention as the center snapped the ball directly to a fully buckled Marshall Faulk who ran in untouched for a score, that was nirvana for someone like me. The unbuckling sold it![/quote]

    Looks like we made AJ’s day! haha

  • Neil | October 17, 2007 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment="157869"]Before buying any patches from River City Sports in the link posted in the ticker, check ebay first.

    The fact that River City has marked their patches down 50% just brings them in line with everyone else on ebay.

    True, River CIty does have some patches you cannot find on ebay, but their shipping charges are borderline criminal and they should only really be used for things you cannot find elsewhere, even at 50% off.

    Add the patches to your cart and proceed to the checkout area, but BE SURE TO READ THE SHIPPING COST before confirming your order and always compare to the final ebay prices with shipping when you can.[/quote]

    Flat rate shipping sucks. I could order a set of beer mugs, a hockey jersey, a winter jacket, a desk clock, a ballcap, and a DVD set…for the same shipping cost as six patches that could fit in a 5×5 bubble envelope.

    If you question it, they chalk it up to “packaging and handling”. They’re just too lazy to subdivide their inventory into rate categories.

    Trouble is, some of the patches they have are rarely ever seen on eBay.

  • Johnny O | October 17, 2007 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment="157875"]Oh my God! Oh my God! Oh my God! I feel like it’s my birthday or something! Chinstrap discussion all over the place! Firstly kudos to the guys who picked up on Brady’s constant changing of his chinstrap and Favre’s weird method of fitting his during college, did anyone pick up on the fact that Favre wore an EGOP facemask in college and with the Falcons? I’ve never ever seen a QB wear one before or since.

    As for the un-buckled style thing, blame Deion Sanders! He almost never buckled one of the lower straps on his chinstrap and ever since then, any guy who has Neon Deion aspirations (DeAngelo Hall, Jason Sehorn, Ty Law and Ray Lewis to name but a few) has left one strap loose. I think Sanders almost always had a buckle attached, but at least once while with the Ravens he had a bare strap. Also notice on McNabb’s loose straps the buckles are right on the ends of the strap and not tightened, which is how they look fresh out of the box so it seems he never intended to buckle them.

    One final thing, chinstrap subterfuge, I remember Kurt Warner (whilst with the Rams and versus the 49ers) using his chinstrap as part of a playfake, goaline situation and Warner backed up from center and began to walk to the sideline, unbuckling his chinstrap as he went. The Rams during that period were infamous for wasting timeouts early in games so the 49ers defenders all went down on one knee and stopped paying attention as the center snapped the ball directly to a fully buckled Marshall Faulk who ran in untouched for a score, that was nirvana for someone like me. The unbuckling sold it![/quote]
    Being from Wisconsin and a lifelong Packers fan I would like to go along with Favre and his chinstrap and that I notice every Sunday that at least a few times he buckles his chinstrap at the last second before going under center. It is almost like he forgets or something. (And no, I don’t want any old Favre jokes) I always chuckle a little bit because he is calling the play and then is like, “Oh shit, my chinstrap!” and then proceeds to set touchdown records.

  • Johnny O | October 17, 2007 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment="157865"][quote comment="157843"][quote comment="157736"]“This year’s World Series cap patch will look like this.”

    When are they going to stop this ridiculous practice? I have hated these WS patches even since they were first used in 1996 (?)…They look ridiculous and make the caps look off-center.

    WS patches on the sleeves? Fine. Patches on the caps? Silly looking.[/quote]

    I agree completely, but have to admit that if/when my Brewers ever get back to the Fall Classic, I’ll be more than happy to buy a royal blue cap with the WS patch on the side….[/quote]

    And that is exactly why they do it! I was going to say something about it selling more hats, but you said it perfectly![/quote]
    Well, since the Crew have not made the fall classic since 1982, I am going to buy as much playoff stuff as possible because I never know when it may happen again. I would defiantly buy a Brewers WS hat, shirt, jersey, sweatshirt… everything. I think New Era and Majestic do a good job every year on the playoff merchandise. I don’t buy a lot of authentic stuff because it is expensive…but this would be a definite exception. Not to mention this years logo matches the Brewers retro unis perfect. *sigh* So close Brewers… we’ll get em next year.

  • Orange and Blue | October 17, 2007 at 5:11 pm |

    “I would defiantly buy a Brewers WS hat, shirt, jersey, sweatshirt… everything.”

    Well, when the Mets make it to the World Series this year, I will….oh, wait…Damn it.

  • Jeff | October 17, 2007 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment="157877"]I was scrolling through collegejersey.com, and I found this, which purports to be a game worn gold Notre Dame jersey. Have I lost it, did I miss it, or what is the deal?[/quote]

    Simple. They are full of shit!

  • Eric | October 17, 2007 at 5:29 pm |

    Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but intial look at Marquette’s new Wade jerseys .

  • Bill | October 17, 2007 at 5:30 pm |

    [quote comment="157867"]I am fairly certain that Randy Moss was wearing a Raiders Do-rag during this past sunday’s game vs. the cowboys. I don’t have any visual proof yet but if anyone could help me out that would be great.[/quote]

    Randy Moss is the second coming of Steve Everitt

  • Charles | October 17, 2007 at 5:40 pm |

    First off, I am a huge fan of the site, an everyday reader (much to my girlfriends malaise), but does the below comment rub anyone else the wrong way…

    Thank god we’re more than halfway through the month of October, which means all pink uniforms will soon be behind us.

    I understand that pink might not be aesthetically pleasing, but neither was watching my 52-year old mother succumb to cancer a little over a year ago. Cancer touches everybody one way or another. Whether the closest you get to the disease is watching Jimmy V give his emotionally charged “never give up” speech on TV or as tragically close as watching a loved one slip away, cancer impacts everyone.

    I think its great that sports leagues and colleges step up and raise awareness for this terrible disease, and UniWatch does a great job covering all the nuances that coincide with it, but to downplay the gesture, to me, downplays the seriousness of the disease.

    Anyone else with me?

  • AJ Connelly | October 17, 2007 at 5:42 pm |

    [quote comment="157903"]First off, I am a huge fan of the site, an everyday reader (much to my girlfriends malaise), but does the below comment rub anyone else the wrong way…

    Thank god we’re more than halfway through the month of October, which means all pink uniforms will soon be behind us.

    I understand that pink might not be aesthetically pleasing, but neither was watching my 52-year old mother succumb to cancer a little over a year ago. Cancer touches everybody one way or another. Whether the closest you get to the disease is watching Jimmy V give his emotionally charged “never give up” speech on TV or as tragically close as watching a loved one slip away, cancer impacts everyone.

    I think its great that sports leagues and colleges step up and raise awareness for this terrible disease, and UniWatch does a great job covering all the nuances that coincide with it, but to downplay the gesture, to me, downplays the seriousness of the disease.

    Anyone else with me?[/quote]

    Well put.

  • Kerry | October 17, 2007 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment="157899"][quote comment="157877"]I was scrolling through collegejersey.com, and I found this, which purports to be a game worn gold Notre Dame jersey. Have I lost it, did I miss it, or what is the deal?[/quote]

    Simple. They are full of shit![/quote]
    Not so fast my friend…
    I found THIS PHOTO and, from the link you provided, I gather that the gold jerseys were worn in 2001 – Bob Davie’s final season in South Bend. I’m trying to find out what game that picture is from.

  • Henry | October 17, 2007 at 5:52 pm |

    [quote comment="157875"]Oh my God! Oh my God! Oh my God! I feel like it’s my birthday or something! Chinstrap discussion all over the place! Firstly kudos to the guys who picked up on Brady’s constant changing of his chinstrap and Favre’s weird method of fitting his during college, did anyone pick up on the fact that Favre wore an EGOP facemask in college and with the Falcons? I’ve never ever seen a QB wear one before or since.

    As for the un-buckled style thing, blame Deion Sanders! He almost never buckled one of the lower straps on his chinstrap and ever since then, any guy who has Neon Deion aspirations (DeAngelo Hall, Jason Sehorn, Ty Law and Ray Lewis to name but a few) has left one strap loose. I think Sanders almost always had a buckle attached, but at least once while with the Ravens he had a bare strap. Also notice on McNabb’s loose straps the buckles are right on the ends of the strap and not tightened, which is how they look fresh out of the box so it seems he never intended to buckle them.

    One final thing, chinstrap subterfuge, I remember Kurt Warner (whilst with the Rams and versus the 49ers) using his chinstrap as part of a playfake, goaline situation and Warner backed up from center and began to walk to the sideline, unbuckling his chinstrap as he went. The Rams during that period were infamous for wasting timeouts early in games so the 49ers defenders all went down on one knee and stopped paying attention as the center snapped the ball directly to a fully buckled Marshall Faulk who ran in untouched for a score, that was nirvana for someone like me. The unbuckling sold it![/quote]

    LOL… regarding Favre’s EGOP facemask, I believe Archie Manning wore one back in the early 80′s with the Saints (one of the many different styles he used), but yeah, him and Favre are the only ones I’ve seen in the NFL.

    Aside from Deion, Kerry Collins (in the mid-90′s, when he was with Carolina) was another guy who purposely left one strap unbuckled… Heath Shuler was another QB who did the same. Michael Irvin left two straps unbuckled very early in his career with the Cowboys.

    I’ve seen Favre forget to do up his chinstrap on occasion; I’ve also noticed that Matt Hasselbeck (Favre’s old backup in Green Bay) and Trent Dilfer (admittedly a big Brett Favre fan) have also picked up the habit of undoing their 2-point chinstrap between plays (especially Hasselbeck).

    Here’s one for the real chinstrap die-hards ;) How about chin strap attachment during warmups and on the sidelines? For two point chinstraps, I’ve seen the loose strap folded back and attached to the back bolt (Montana, Favre) and running down and back up to the back bolt (Rypien); for four point low I’ve seen the loose long strap attached to the short strap bolt (Elway), the loose strap attached to the top bolt (used by the high hookup), and the strap going around the back of the neck. For the four point high I’ve seen the long straps on the bottom buckled to the short strap bolts (Randall Cunningham).

  • Orange and Blue | October 17, 2007 at 5:56 pm |

    “Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but intial look at Marquette’s new Wade jerseys”

    Call me crazy…But I love ‘em.

  • Henry | October 17, 2007 at 5:58 pm |

    Sorry, one last chin strap comment (I hope) on “Chin Strap Wednesday” — regarding Brady’s “unusual” hookup mentioned above: he wore the Adams 4 point high throughout the playoffs that year but inexplicably changed to the Riddell hard cup 4-point low worn UPSIDE DOWN in the SuperBowl, such that the long straps (normally below the ear) went up by the temples, and the short straps connected to the short strap bolts. We should have known then that Tom Brady was not mortal.

    P.S. Any love for Aikman’s mole skin? How about his gel pad insert :) http://www.weplay.co...

  • Nolan | October 17, 2007 at 6:06 pm |

    [quote comment="157903"]… but does the below comment rub anyone else the wrong way…
    [/quote]

    In a word-No, this is a site dedicated to Uniforms, it’s not SusanG.KomenWatch.

    I understand what you are saying but I didn’t take the comment to be about Cancer but about athletics aesthetics.

    One can support the fight against Breast Cancer and not want their team to wear Pink Jerseys at the same time, right?

  • Johnny O | October 17, 2007 at 6:06 pm |

    [quote comment="157910"]“Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but intial look at Marquette’s new Wade jerseys”

    Call me crazy…But I love ‘em.[/quote]

    I’m with you on this one. They are kind of different. But for some reason, I really find them very pleasing to the eyes. Maybe because it introduces Marquette’s new word mark, with a little old-school flavor. We rarely see this in uniforms in any league. (Combining old and new school in the same uni)

  • Chris Mewett | October 17, 2007 at 6:18 pm |

    The U.S. men’s national soccer team today wore navy-on-navy for the friendly against Switzerland, which I believe is a first. (Normally the navy jersey is worn with white shorts.)

    Also pictured in the linked photo is David Degen of Switzerland, who wore FNOB. His brother Phillipe also plays for the Swiss national team, but did not appear in today’s game.

  • Nolan | October 17, 2007 at 6:22 pm |

    [quote comment="157911"]Sorry, one last chin strap comment (I hope) on “Chin Strap Wednesday” — regarding Brady’s “unusual” hookup mentioned above: he wore the Adams 4 point high throughout the playoffs that year but inexplicably changed to the Riddell hard cup 4-point low worn UPSIDE DOWN in the SuperBowl, such that the long straps (normally below the ear) went up by the temples, and the short straps connected to the short strap bolts. We should have known then that Tom Brady was not mortal.

    P.S. Any love for Aikman’s mole skin? How about his gel pad insert :) http://www.weplay.co...

    Not so much on your Brady analysis. It’s a Riddell 4 point high hook up strap. Look at this picture. It clearly shows the chin cup is right side up and the straps are all the same length. A standard 4 point low hook up version has shorter straps on the front.

    As for Aikman, his changes in facemasks and chin straps would keep you busy for a while.

  • John in Athens | October 17, 2007 at 6:35 pm |

    [quote comment="157903"]First off, I am a huge fan of the site, an everyday reader (much to my girlfriends malaise), but does the below comment rub anyone else the wrong way…

    Thank god we’re more than halfway through the month of October, which means all pink uniforms will soon be behind us.

    I understand that pink might not be aesthetically pleasing, but neither was watching my 52-year old mother succumb to cancer a little over a year ago. Cancer touches everybody one way or another. Whether the closest you get to the disease is watching Jimmy V give his emotionally charged “never give up” speech on TV or as tragically close as watching a loved one slip away, cancer impacts everyone.

    I think its great that sports leagues and colleges step up and raise awareness for this terrible disease, and UniWatch does a great job covering all the nuances that coincide with it, but to downplay the gesture, to me, downplays the seriousness of the disease.

    Anyone else with me?[/quote]

    I disagree.

    Sports, like any other form of entertainment, is an escape. And, while I see the use of sports as a platform to raise awareness for good causes, sometime it can go overboard.

    Like wearing pink jerseys for a month.

    Personally, I think most of these “causes” are just hokey promotions or excuses to have guilt-free fun.

    Besides, is there anybody in this country that is not already aware of breast cancer and if there is, will a pink jersey really change that?

    As for the Jimmy V. thing, that was the greatest thing that ever happened to the ESPN Espy awards television program. That’s why they roll it out every year to make sure you watch.

  • John in Athens | October 17, 2007 at 6:37 pm |

    [quote comment="157915"][quote comment="157903"]… but does the below comment rub anyone else the wrong way…
    [/quote]

    In a word-No, this is a site dedicated to Uniforms, it’s not SusanG.KomenWatch.

    I understand what you are saying but I didn’t take the comment to be about Cancer but about athletics aesthetics.

    One can support the fight against Breast Cancer and not want their team to wear Pink Jerseys at the same time, right?[/quote]

    Yes.

  • Chris Mewett | October 17, 2007 at 6:38 pm |

    In another interesting note from today’s international soccer matches, Czech player Jaroslav Plasil apparently wore a long-sleeved red undershirt — complete with some kind of sleeve logo/wordmark — underneath his short-sleeved red jersey. Why he did this instead of simply wearing a long-sleeved jersey is beyond me.

    In the first picture you can also see Marek Matejovsky, whose jersey does not appear to have the blue sleeve trim that every other Czech player does.

  • Henry | October 17, 2007 at 6:51 pm |

    [quote comment="157921"][quote comment="157911"]Sorry, one last chin strap comment (I hope) on “Chin Strap Wednesday” — regarding Brady’s “unusual” hookup mentioned above: he wore the Adams 4 point high throughout the playoffs that year but inexplicably changed to the Riddell hard cup 4-point low worn UPSIDE DOWN in the SuperBowl, such that the long straps (normally below the ear) went up by the temples, and the short straps connected to the short strap bolts. We should have known then that Tom Brady was not mortal.

    P.S. Any love for Aikman’s mole skin? How about his gel pad insert :) http://www.weplay.co...

    Not so much on your Brady analysis. It’s a Riddell 4 point high hook up strap. Look at this picture. It clearly shows the chin cup is right side up and the straps are all the same length. A standard 4 point low hook up version has shorter straps on the front.

    As for Aikman, his changes in facemasks and chin straps would keep you busy for a while.[/quote]

    You’re absolutely right about Brady. I checked the photos from the Super Bowl and it seems my eyes (or at least my memory) have deceived me… yes, that is a standard 4 point high hardcup chinstrap. I feel shame.

    P.S. You forgot about Aikman’s rookie year (4 point low soft cup chinstrap): http://www379.pair.c... as well as his helmet (Schutt Air from 89 to about 97, then Riddell from 98 onwards).

  • AJ Connelly | October 17, 2007 at 7:02 pm |

    I remember the Brady SuperBowl chinstrap thing vividly, he’d been flip-flopping between a high hook-up Adams and a low hook-up for most of the season. However the move to the Riddell model and the unorthodox way he wore it, threw me for a loop. He did wear a low hook-up version of the Riddell during his rookie season (with an ROPO-DW facemask)but he’d seemingly committed to the Adams model right around the time he committed to wearing 3 pairs of socks to disguise his skinny calves (I trick I borrowed). I just want to say thanks to everybody that’s been posting on chinstraps today, it has absolutely made my day!! Awesome!!

  • Kyle O. | October 17, 2007 at 7:14 pm |

    [quote comment="157905"][quote comment="157899"][quote comment="157877"]I was scrolling through collegejersey.com, and I found this, which purports to be a game worn gold Notre Dame jersey. Have I lost it, did I miss it, or what is the deal?[/quote]

    Simple. They are full of shit![/quote]
    Not so fast my friend…
    I found THIS PHOTO and, from the link you provided, I gather that the gold jerseys were worn in 2001 – Bob Davie’s final season in South Bend. I’m trying to find out what game that picture is from.[/quote]
    Were the Ridell Revolution helmets around in 2001?

  • Henry | October 17, 2007 at 7:20 pm |

    [quote comment="157936"][quote comment="157905"][quote comment="157899"][quote comment="157877"]I was scrolling through collegejersey.com, and I found this, which purports to be a game worn gold Notre Dame jersey. Have I lost it, did I miss it, or what is the deal?[/quote]

    Simple. They are full of shit![/quote]
    Not so fast my friend…
    I found THIS PHOTO and, from the link you provided, I gather that the gold jerseys were worn in 2001 – Bob Davie’s final season in South Bend. I’m trying to find out what game that picture is from.[/quote]
    Were the Ridell Revolution helmets around in 2001?[/quote]

    Oh, the irony…

    The Riddell Revolution made its debut in February 2002 at Super Bowl XXXVI, when it was worn by St. Louis Rams fullback James Hodgins. Yes, that is the same game in which Tom Brady donned the aforementioned Riddell hard cup chinstrap…

  • Nolan | October 17, 2007 at 7:21 pm |

    [quote comment="157930"][quote comment="157921"][quote comment="157911"]
    [/quote]
    [/quote]

    P.S. You forgot about Aikman’s rookie year (4 point low soft cup chinstrap): http://www379.pair.c... as well as his helmet (Schutt Air from 89 to about 97, then Riddell from 98 onwards).[/quote]

    Like I said, it could keep you busy for a while. I got tired of looking through the pics and just went with what I had. Nice work on the rookie pic I guess that was as forgettable to me as 1-15.

  • Dom | October 17, 2007 at 7:21 pm |

    [quote comment="157936"][quote comment="157905"][quote comment="157899"][quote comment="157877"]I was scrolling through collegejersey.com, and I found this, which purports to be a game worn gold Notre Dame jersey. Have I lost it, did I miss it, or what is the deal?[/quote]

    Simple. They are full of shit![/quote]
    Not so fast my friend…
    I found THIS PHOTO and, from the link you provided, I gather that the gold jerseys were worn in 2001 – Bob Davie’s final season in South Bend. I’m trying to find out what game that picture is from.[/quote]
    Were the Ridell Revolution helmets around in 2001?[/quote]

    According to this website there was no #58 on Notre Dame that year

    http://und.cstv.com/...

  • Stuby | October 17, 2007 at 7:26 pm |

    [quote comment="157936"][quote comment="157905"][quote comment="157899"][quote comment="157877"]I was scrolling through collegejersey.com, and I found this, which purports to be a game worn gold Notre Dame jersey. Have I lost it, did I miss it, or what is the deal?[/quote]

    Simple. They are full of shit![/quote]
    Not so fast my friend…
    I found THIS PHOTO and, from the link you provided, I gather that the gold jerseys were worn in 2001 – Bob Davie’s final season in South Bend. I’m trying to find out what game that picture is from.[/quote]
    Were the Ridell Revolution helmets around in 2001?[/quote]
    According to this, the Revolution was introduced in 2002. Maybe that picture is from a Spring game or something

  • Teebz | October 17, 2007 at 7:26 pm |

    [quote comment="157869"]Before buying any patches from River City Sports in the link posted in the ticker, check ebay first.

    The fact that River City has marked their patches down 50% just brings them in line with everyone else on ebay.

    True, River CIty does have some patches you cannot find on ebay, but their shipping charges are borderline criminal and they should only really be used for things you cannot find elsewhere, even at 50% off.

    Add the patches to your cart and proceed to the checkout area, but BE SURE TO READ THE SHIPPING COST before confirming your order and always compare to the final ebay prices with shipping when you can.[/quote]

    Jeff, I agree. I worked there, and everything is marked up 100% over cost. If you order from there, take comfort in knowing you got ripped off.

  • Carrie | October 17, 2007 at 7:31 pm |

    Calm down ya d-bag.

    [quote comment="157766"]i just have to commend Paul on the EXCELLENT headline…[/quote]

  • Teebz | October 17, 2007 at 7:32 pm |

    By the way, their patches aren’t even officially-licensed products. They are made locally by a company who is no longer licensed by the NHL to make NHL patches. Again, cutting corners to save on costs, and charging you through the nose to buy them.

    Oh, the stories I have from that place….

  • Curtis | October 17, 2007 at 7:57 pm |

    University of Oregon may wear their infamous white helmets against University of Washington this weekend

    http://www.addictedt...

  • Glenn | October 17, 2007 at 8:19 pm |

    regarding FNOB……from 1990-1992, brothers Doug and Dave Widell both played for the Denver Broncos. I remember that they had full names on the back, but I currently can’t find any pics to back it up. Hell, it took me long enough to remember their names! :)

  • rob | October 17, 2007 at 8:24 pm |

    [quote comment="157942"][quote comment="157936"][quote comment="157905"][quote comment="157899"][quote comment="157877"]I was scrolling through collegejersey.com, and I found this, which purports to be a game worn gold Notre Dame jersey. Have I lost it, did I miss it, or what is the deal?[/quote]

    Simple. They are full of shit![/quote]
    Not so fast my friend…
    I found THIS PHOTO and, from the link you provided, I gather that the gold jerseys were worn in 2001 – Bob Davie’s final season in South Bend. I’m trying to find out what game that picture is from.[/quote]
    Were the Ridell Revolution helmets around in 2001?[/quote]
    According to this, the Revolution was introduced in 2002. Maybe that picture is from a Spring game or something[/quote]

    Exactly. I think it was the Blue-Gold game from Willingham’s first season. Also, here’s what the green jerseys will look like:

  • rob | October 17, 2007 at 8:33 pm |

  • Matt | October 17, 2007 at 8:48 pm |

    those of you who are into minor league hockey jerseys will enjoy this beautiful display.

    http://www.campbellp...

    Mostly jerseys from the old UHL, a visual fiesta of warmup and game worn sweaters.

  • Henry | October 17, 2007 at 8:51 pm |

    After checking some photos from 2002, a correction and one final Brady tidbit:

    1. He wore a 4 point low, not a 4 point high chinstrap in the Playoffs (I thought it was the latter).

    2. According to Getty, he was wearing this chinstrap as recently as the Patriots Feb 1/02 practice (their was a walkthrough with no pads/helmet on Feb 2, and the game was on Feb 3), meaning the Super Bowl was likely one of the first times he ever wore that configuration.

  • Nolan | October 17, 2007 at 9:45 pm |

    [quote comment="157964"]After checking some photos from 2002, a correction and one final Brady tidbit:

    1. He wore a 4 point low, not a 4 point high chinstrap in the Playoffs (I thought it was the latter).

    2. According to Getty, he was wearing this chinstrap as recently as the Patriots Feb 1/02 practice (their was a walkthrough with no pads/helmet on Feb 2, and the game was on Feb 3), meaning the Super Bowl was likely one of the first times he ever wore that configuration.[/quote]

    This is good stuff.

  • AJ Connelly | October 17, 2007 at 9:52 pm |

    [quote comment="157964"]After checking some photos from 2002, a correction and one final Brady tidbit:

    1. He wore a 4 point low, not a 4 point high chinstrap in the Playoffs (I thought it was the latter).

    2. According to Getty, he was wearing this chinstrap as recently as the Patriots Feb 1/02 practice (their was a walkthrough with no pads/helmet on Feb 2, and the game was on Feb 3), meaning the Super Bowl was likely one of the first times he ever wore that configuration.[/quote]

    That’s why I was so freaked out, I’m a Pats fan and I’d spent the week watching clips on Sky Sports News of the Pats and Rams practices and nothing looked out of the ordinary, Brady was back using an Adams high hook-up and Bledsoe had never waivered from his Adams low hook-up with a gelpad insert. Then as the Pats came out of the tunnel en masse (seriously how cool was that first time around, right after the Rams had the starters introduced) Brady emerged with the Riddell model on and although it wasn’t buckled the clips were very far up the straps so I knew he was doing something weird with it. I instantly thought of a Jackie Stewart quote which goes something like – “The moment you start doing things another way just because the championship is at stake is the moment you lose.” I was beside myself with worry. It proves Brady isn’t remotely superstitious. He did stick with the Riddell for a good while before a game against the Bills in 03 (I think) when he had his helmet knocked off. After that he wore an Adams again for one game (fresh from the box because it still had Adams’ vinyl buckles on it, which the Pats don’t use normally) then he went to the tightie whitie deep cup Riddell, which he’s worn ever since. He remains the most fickle chinstrap wearer I can think of. What an awesome awesome day!

  • Stephen Santangelo | October 17, 2007 at 9:56 pm |

    Graxie a Dio, the whole Canadien team didn’t change their number to the NASCAR font style. That would’ve been totally teal of them.

  • Joe B | October 17, 2007 at 10:23 pm |

    THIS JUST IN!!! BREAKING NEWS!!!

    NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman, in his infinite wisdom, has issued a “mandatory” equipment change. Effective immediately, all players will have rockets attached to their skates, causing them to skate at close-to supersonic speeds!

    When asked about the new skates, players reactions everywhere were positive.

    All-star forward Joe Sakic said of the skates, “I love the way that we can go 50 miles an hour. Sure, it will increase injuries, but with the increased scoring, will anybody really care about the minimal fatalities?”

    On the reverse side, goaltender Jose Theodore said, “It sure helps the forwards, but with all of these rule changes, I don’t think that anybody cares about goalies anymore.”

    Mr. Theodore was, of course, referring to the new rule change restricting goalie pads to soccer shin-guards and an extra woolen sweater, albeit with wayward threads trimmed as close as possible. Commissioner Bettman stated in a press release that this change was to increase scoring and make a better product.

    Coupled with the brand-new Teflon-coated uniforms that are in space-age neon colors for all teams, this is the most widespread change of a sport mid-season in documented times.

    In other news, Commissioner Bettman formed a fact-finding team on switching the playing surface of hockey from ice to either astro-turf or hard-wood floors. Reasoning behind this, as stated by his secretary, was, “Because ice rinks are too cold for Mr. Bettman.” The NHLPA, in protest, has asked former player Mike Danton to hire a contract killer to “fix the problem.”

  • Jason | October 17, 2007 at 10:27 pm |

    The Bills have two patches.

    A navy one for home and away

    A royal blue one for the throwback

  • Dave A | October 17, 2007 at 10:34 pm |

    [quote comment="157963"]those of you who are into minor league hockey jerseys will enjoy this beautiful display.

    http://www.campbellp...

    Mostly jerseys from the old UHL, a visual fiesta of warmup and game worn sweaters.[/quote]

    Talk about logo creep…the Gatorades vs the Aquafinas in the All-Star Game?

  • Matt | October 17, 2007 at 11:17 pm |

    well not only that…there’s pepsi and mountain dew jerseys in there too…in addition to a myriad of theme nights. plenty of the st. patty’s day shirts but also vh1 save the music night, battle of the bands night, valentines day…just an amazing collection of sweaters…and I’d say about 3/4 of those teams don’t even exist anymore

  • john | October 18, 2007 at 12:27 am |

    As an Isles fan, this video of Alexei Yashin getting his lunch fed to him is touching. But check out the refs…

  • Nick | October 18, 2007 at 2:07 am |

    I always chuckle a little bit because he is calling the play and then is like, “Oh shit, my chinstrap!” and then proceeds to set touchdown records.

    and then the interception record shortly after

  • rpt319 | October 18, 2007 at 2:30 am |

    I’m looking at these patches and see you can buy a ’92-’93 Stanley Cup Finals Patch. I want to customize my old school road “Chevy” logo Kings jersey for that Finals. My question is did the Kings wear just the Cup Finals patch or did they also wear the 100th Anniversary of the Stanley Cup patch? If so where do these patches need to be sewn on my jersey?

  • jared | October 18, 2007 at 3:02 am |

    This was actually the reason I quit playing football in high school. My helmet was so tight that it cause parts of my head to go numb–especially the top of the forehead. The coach was such a dick about it and refused to let me switch. After a few practices, it was too much to bear and I left the team. Coaches should be better trained about things like this. Just having a helmet doesn’t solve the problem-it needs to be properly adjusted to the player.

    When I played if they could get the helmet on your head and not shake it around too much you were good to go. I am not sure if they had any formal training in properly fitting a helmet. I always assumed I had a weirdly shaped head, because they never fit right.

    I once was knocked out in an old Schutt Air, but it wasn’t really the helmet’s fault. On a kick-off I dove in front of a blocker to try to grab the ball carrier who was crossing behind him. I ended up basically doing what Trent Green did on his latest injury – knee to the head, head to the ground. Only for me everything went black and then immediately came back (it was weird because it went from black to bright white and the sound of the field was like someone turning up a volume knob). I couldn’t initially remember which sideline was mine and couldn’t remember any plays when I got there. Fortunately for me, I hardly ever played anything but special teams.

    In the 3rd and 4th quarters my head was aching and I was keeping my helmet propped up on my head a bit (we were never allowed to remove our helmets on the sideline or the field). After the game I couldn’t sleep and I went to the hospital and was told I had a mild concussion and should not practice.

    I told my coach the next day that I couldn’t practice (this was a JV game, on Thursday) and he a) couldn’t believe I didn’t mention this during the game, and b) told me to never, ever do it again. I guess tying back into the hockey patches, it is good to teach kids about serious injuries and how to avoid them. Also what do to if something happens, and to at least feel comfortable having it looked at.

    In my case, I didn’t say anything because (as my dad would say) I had “my bell rung” and was not a complete pussy. Of course it never dawned on me that the fact that for a few moments I wasn’t even sure what team I was on could be a really bad thing. Besides being knocked silly, I had the added handicap of being young and stupid to start with.

    the exact same thing happened to me. knee to the head and i didn’t know where i was, what team i was on, or what happened. i think it was about the 3rd quarter but i didn’t exactly know what a concussion felt like because no one told me, so i just played the rest of the game. finally after i got sick to my stomach and had a horrible headache someone told me i probably had a concussion (after another day of practice HAHA!!). i think that teaching the players signs of some injuries that you might not know exactly what they are is a pretty damn good idea. but then again its pretty hard to even think when you feel like that!!

  • MLB2PDX | October 18, 2007 at 3:27 am |

    [quote comment="157952"]University of Oregon may wear their infamous white helmets against University of Washington this weekend[/quote]

    Yeah, pretty sure this is happening. When they came out with the different helmet designs I could live with the variations at first…eventhough I think the green one is one of the best in college football. However, once I found out the yellow had a flame on it, I was embarrassed. I did not notice it at first, but I now see that the white one also has a flame on it! Ugh…come on. And to think I still hang onto my season tickets. :-)

    Worst. Uniforms. Ever.
    (minus the green helmet)

  • Paul | October 18, 2007 at 7:44 am |

    [quote comment="157958"][quote comment="157942"][quote comment="157936"][quote comment="157905"][quote comment="157899"][quote comment="157877"]I was scrolling through collegejersey.com, and I found this, which purports to be a game worn gold Notre Dame jersey. Have I lost it, did I miss it, or what is the deal?[/quote]

    Simple. They are full of shit![/quote]
    Not so fast my friend…
    I found THIS PHOTO and, from the link you provided, I gather that the gold jerseys were worn in 2001 – Bob Davie’s final season in South Bend. I’m trying to find out what game that picture is from.[/quote]
    Were the Ridell Revolution helmets around in 2001?[/quote]
    According to this, the Revolution was introduced in 2002. Maybe that picture is from a Spring game or something[/quote]

    Exactly. I think it was the Blue-Gold game from Willingham’s first season. Also, here’s what the green jerseys will look like: [/quote]

    You are correct. These were worn only for the Blue/ Gold game. However, until recently the bookstore has sold replica jerseys with various numbers in this color making some wonder if they would appear as an actual gamer.

  • Jensen Lewis | October 18, 2007 at 11:08 am |

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    We will keep you posted.

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    Jensen-Lewis Co, Inc.

  • Neil | October 18, 2007 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment="158030"]I’m looking at these patches and see you can buy a ’92-’93 Stanley Cup Finals Patch. I want to customize my old school road “Chevy” logo Kings jersey for that Finals. My question is did the Kings wear just the Cup Finals patch or did they also wear the 100th Anniversary of the Stanley Cup patch? If so where do these patches need to be sewn on my jersey?[/quote]

    They wore both, technically: the Kings’ game-worn playoff jerseys that year were CCM Air-Knit, as opposed to the heavy Ultrafil knits they wore during the silver & black years. When they reached the Cup Finals, they actually sewed that patch on a swatch of Ultrafil material, then sewed the swatch on top of the existing Stanley Cup 100th patch. Here’s a close-up.

    I just recently had both of those patches, I coulda hooked you up.

  • JeffB | October 18, 2007 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment="158205"][quote comment="158030"]I’m looking at these patches and see you can buy a ’92-’93 Stanley Cup Finals Patch. I want to customize my old school road “Chevy” logo Kings jersey for that Finals. My question is did the Kings wear just the Cup Finals patch or did they also wear the 100th Anniversary of the Stanley Cup patch? If so where do these patches need to be sewn on my jersey?[/quote]

    They wore both, technically: the Kings’ game-worn playoff jerseys that year were CCM Air-Knit, as opposed to the heavy Ultrafil knits they wore during the silver & black years. When they reached the Cup Finals, they actually sewed that patch on a swatch of Ultrafil material, then sewed the swatch on top of the existing Stanley Cup 100th patch. Here’s a close-up.

    I just recently had both of those patches, I coulda hooked you up.[/quote]

    Be sure you get the correct version of the 1993 Stanley Cup Finals patch in English. The Canadiens were the one and only team to wear a French version of the Cup Finals patch the same year.

  • JeffB | October 18, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    Just to follow up, the both the Stanley Cup Centennial patch and the later Cup Finals patch were worn on the upper right chest. The Cup Finals patch is readily available on ebay just about any old day without having to pay a bazillion dollars to River City for shipping. :(

  • Jon | October 19, 2007 at 4:04 am |

    [quote comment="157826"][quote comment="157808"][quote comment="157797"]Why are the Oregon players wearing Purple practice jerseys? I would have thought there would wear green. Also on the jereseys, anyone have any idea why some of the numbers on the purple jerseys are yellow and some are white?[/quote]

    the ducks are playing washington this week, and that’s the scout team. last week they wore maroon jerseys in preparation for the washington state game.
    another thing, couldn’t they debut the white helmets when they’re out of the bcs picture completely? if this is another vegas bowl and we lose on saturday, i’m blaming Uncle Phil.[/quote]
    Also just notices other than the two different colors on the purple jersey but one guy on the left is wearing yellow pants.[/quote]

    The scout team wears the jersey color of the opposing team. It supposedly helps the travel team prepare. as for the pants, the basically wear whatever is available. You’ll notice that they are the pants from the game uniforms 2 years ago (second nike incarnation)