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Prince and Madonna Need Not Apply

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There are certain topics that seem to come up every few weeks in the comments section. One of them is the issue of players who’ve worn their full names — first and last — on their jerseys. Many examples have been put forth over the course of various discussions, but nobody’s tried to compile a comprehensive list. I’m going to try to begin one now, with the proviso that this is just a starting point — I’m hoping we can all make lots of additions as they occur to us.

Oh, and before we get to the list: For years I’ve used wording like “names on the backs of jerseys” and “player names on uniforms,” even though there’s a simple abbreviation available: NOB, which stands for “name on back.” Teams like the Yankees have NNOB, or “no name on back.” I’ve always resisted using these two terms in a Uni Watch context, because they seemed too jargon-y and are used primarily by collectors of game-used memorabilia, which has never been my scene. But now I’m giving in and accepting them, plus I’m inaugurating a new term to the lexicon: FNOB, for “full name on back.” Cool? Cool.

Now then, here’s the beginning of our FNOB list, broken down by sport:

Football: The classic example of the FNOB on the gridiron remains Jim and Jack Youngblood, conveniently captured together in this photo. While their first and last names were stacked, more recent NFL FNOBs have taken the one-line approach, as seen in these photos of Darrent Williams, Mike Anderson, Tank Johnson, and Dave Brown (as you can sorta see here and here).

Basketball: Isiah Thomas had a stacked FNOB at one point during his career. But that can’t compare with the typographic mishmash sported by Marques Johnson, whose FNOB wasn’t just stacked — it was straight on top and arched below. (Special thanks to Todd Krevanchi for bringing both of these to my attention.)

Hockey: As discussed in the comments section a few weeks ago, the Howe family had lots of FNOB action during their days with the Aeros and Whalers. Rangers teammates/siblings Dave and Don Maloney also went the FNOB route, although I could only find a good photo of one of them. And I’m fairly certain the Sutter brothers had FNOBs, although I haven’t been able to find any photos yet.

Baseball: The sport that’s usually the richest source of material for any uni-related discussion is oddly barren on the subject of FNOBs. I’m pretty sure Andy and Alan Benes wore their full names at some point when they were both on the Cardinals, but I haven’t found any photos, and I can’t think of any other FNOB examples from the diamond, although I’m fairly certain there must be others. Help me out here, people — what am I overlooking? (Bonus points to my ESPN.com colleague Bomani Jones, who says, “If Jarrod Saltalamacchia had a twin brother named James and the Rangers signed him, something tells me they’d have to find a new uniform guy.”)

However long our list ends up being, I think we can all agree that it’s already too long, because FNOBs almost always look like crap. I can make an exception for the Youngblood brothers, especially since their first names were smaller than their surnames (in terms of both length and type size), lending a certain elegance to their stacked FNOBs. But almost every other example I showed is an eyesore. I mean, c’mon, was anyone ever gonna mistake Gordie Howe for one of his kids? Jeez.

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Major Hosiery Discovery!: Late last night, this photo was posted in the comments section. The intended point was that yet another team used Dymo Tape labels to keep track of their helmets, but I immediately noticed the seams in Frank Robinson’s stirrups. For years I’ve been writing that Robbie had extra material sewn into his stirrups so he could pull them up higher (this was first reported in Ball Four, and I’ve essentially been repeating that claim), but this is the first time I’ve ever seen photographic confirmation of it. Viva visual documentation!

iwamoto.png Roster Restoration Update: I’ve now restored about 65 of the 90 names that were recently wiped off of the membership roster by a software glitch. That still leaves about 25 to go, and I’d like to get as many of them as possible. So if you haven’t already done so, all members should PLEASE check the roster listing. If you don’t see your name there, e-mail me your name, membership uni number, membership level, and why you chose your number. If your name linked to a photo, please re-send it. And if you’d like to help speed up the process a bit more, pick out your card from the design gallery and send me its URL. Big thanks for everyone’s help.

As for today’s showcase card, it’s based on, of course, your current Stanley Cup champions.

Uni Watch News Ticker: It took about 17 seconds for many, many readers to determine that the photo on this 1968 baseball card was taken at the 1964 All-Star Game. The clue? The seats in the background are from Shea Stadium, site of the ’64 ASG. Thanks to all who helped solve the mystery. … Longtime Uni Watch pal (and mascot stalker) Liz Clayton recently took this photo of a woman wearing Cubs earrings. … I think I’ve finally figured out the inspiration behind the new NFL ref jerseys. … Yesterday’s entry about alpha-numeric uni numbers led Ian McLarty to remind me about netball, a girls’ sport popular in many British commonwealth countries. Instead of uni numbers, the players wear letters designating their positions. Details on the sport’s uniform history are here. … And then there’s this, from Bob Jaye: “In a college all-star game following the 1971 season (Senior Bowl, perhaps), the South team had two quarterbacks who’d both worn No. 7 during their stellar careers. So Florida’s John Reaves wore 7R and Auburn’s Pat Sullivan wore 7S, respectively. Unfortunately, I can’t find a photo.” … I’m not sure how I’ve gotten this far without knowing about eFootage, but it’s a friggin’ gold mine of old stock footage. Simple case in point: this five-minute recap of the 1952 NFL Pro Bowl, which features red, white, and blue goalposts, red officials’ uni numbers, and Lenny Moore’s white spats, among other highlights. Loads of other stuff lurking in the eFootage archives, too – have fun poking around (with thanks to Ronnie Poore). … The Cleveland Plain Dealer invited readers to redesign the Indians’ uniform, and the results aren’t pretty (thanks, Vince). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Vincent Jackson wore sky blue cleats on Sunday, and there’s no way that simple spat job is gonna save him from a fine. … Matthew Self has put together an excellent slide show of old SMU football photos. Check out all 31 pics here. … Decent article here about the uniform numbers worn by assorted L.A.-based athletes (with thanks to Eric Borer). … Cool note from Wayne Yeung, who’s one lucky fella: “My girlfriend is part of the Columbia University Business School’s women’s touch rugby team, and she recently sent me a photo of their team’s awesome hosiery.” Man, two different ribbing patterns! … Speaking of hosiery, check out the socks worn by the Bondurant-Farrar Ladyjays high school volleyball team, from Bondurant, Iowa. … Do you know what widgets are? Yeah, neither do I, but those of you who do will presumably be interested in HockeyWidgets.com, which according to Adam Tilsner has “a calendar with a different jersey for each day. The site has around 9,000 jerseys to choose from. There’s also a widget to display any jersey in their database. They have widgets for Yahoo dashboard as well.” I have exactly zero idea what any of this is about, but I’m sure those of you who aren’t as elderly tech-clueless as I am bring us up to speed. … Here’s something you don’t see very often: two-color football socks with the white on top instead of below (with thanks to David Chisholm). … Good catch by Chris Skumin, who notes that Mike Timlin’s left-sleeve piping goes right through the Majestic logo. … Corey Davis notes that Sabres goalie Jocelyn Thibault is still wearing this mask from his Penguins day, complete with his old uni number. … Get ready for a new rallying cry of “Ditch the black!” this Thursday, because Anthony Tessein says Rutgers will be wearing black jerseys to go alone with the black pants they wore last Saturday. So much for the “Scarlet” Knights. … Cheri Chandler has posted an unusual bit of family history — a Canton Bulldogs patch supposedly salvaged from her husband’s great-grandfather’s letterman jacket — here. … Latest System of Dreck team: Washington. … If you were posing for a team portrait, why would you wear your jersey backwards? (As spotted by Andy Beaton.) … Reprinted from last night’s comments: The Seahawks’ green sleeve piping was missing from Matt Hasselbeck’s jersey on Sunday. … Guess which city I won’t be visiting today.

 

262 comments to Prince and Madonna Need Not Apply

  • Dave | October 16, 2007 at 8:42 am |

    Actually – the last Indians’ uniform is REALLY REALLY REALLY nice.

  • Craig | October 16, 2007 at 8:50 am |

    Looking at those Indians’ uni designs gave me two thoughts…One, couldn’t ONE kid have been PC and renamed the team the Cleveland Bulldogs or something? Just for kicks! (besides…you know its only a matter of time…sorry Indians and Braves fans) Two, is it me or does anyone else think that REAL uniform designers work with crayon too? How else do you explain the Cincinnati Bengals??

  • Nicefellow31 | October 16, 2007 at 8:55 am |

    Jack and Jim Youngblood were not brothers nor were they related at all.

  • Miguel | October 16, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    Twin brothers Keith and Kerry Cash both had their first and last name on their uniforms for the Longhorn football team in the early ’90. I’ll have to do some scouring to find pictures.

  • diz | October 16, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    more FNOB: Derek Young (10) and his brother Darren (8) for Aberdeen there

  • josh's twin | October 16, 2007 at 9:00 am |

    Is there a list of First Name on Back such as,”Ichiro”, “Vida”, others?

  • L M | October 16, 2007 at 9:02 am |

    Watching the Giants play on Monday Night Football last night, I noticed where Brandon Jacobs and Amani Toomer, were no longer wearing Schutts new Ion helmet.
    Both of them were wearing a Schutt Air-advantage last night
    It would be interesting to find out what prompted the change of helmets for both of them.

  • Ed | October 16, 2007 at 9:05 am |

    Two more FNOBs for the list: when Andra Davis and Andre Davis (no relation) both played for the Browns… Unfortunately, can’t find any game photos, only this:

    http://images.footba...

    http://images.footba...

    ed

  • Paul Lukas | October 16, 2007 at 9:05 am |

    [quote comment=”157124″]Watching the Giants play on Monday Night Football last night, I noticed where Brandon Jacobs and Amani Toomer, were no longer wearing Schutts new Ion helmet.
    Both of them were wearing a Schutt Air-advantage last night
    It would be interesting to find out what prompted the change of helmets for both of them.[/quote]

    I’m supposed to see Joe Skiba later this week. I’ll ask him.

  • Ian | October 16, 2007 at 9:07 am |

    Or how about players who have the initial of their nickname on their back, as Pacman Jones had P. Jones, and not A. Jones on his jersey.

  • MC | October 16, 2007 at 9:08 am |

    Mike and Mark Mimbs were twin brothers who came up with the Dodgers in the early 90s (I think). I vaguely remember a photo in Sports Illustrated that partially revealed the full names on their jerseys.

  • Josh | October 16, 2007 at 9:13 am |

    Reaves played at Florida not So Florida. Hell, USF did not even have a team until ’97.

  • Paul Lukas | October 16, 2007 at 9:14 am |

    [quote comment=”157126″]Two more FNOBs for the list: when Andra Davis and Andre Davis (no relation) both played for the Browns… Unfortunately, can’t find any game photos, only this:

    http://images.footba...

    http://images.footba...

    ed[/quote]

    Here’s a game photo of Andre.

  • matthew | October 16, 2007 at 9:20 am |

    unc will be wearing the system of dress unis this season:

  • Greg V. | October 16, 2007 at 9:21 am |

    Bengals running back Rudi Johnson used to have a FNOB jersey. After linebacker Riall Johnson was released, Rudi went back to R. Johnson, which he currently wears.

  • matthew | October 16, 2007 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”157135″]unc will be wearing the system of dress unis this season:
    [/quote]

  • matthew | October 16, 2007 at 9:22 am |


    UNC’s system of dress unis at their media day…

    does that work?

  • Bill | October 16, 2007 at 9:22 am |

    Didn’t Mike Brown of the Bears wear his FNOB for a while? Couldn’t find a pic.

  • matthew | October 16, 2007 at 9:22 am |

    http://tarheelblue.c...

    fuck, just cut and paste it, we gotta revamp the comment section…

  • Mark in Shiga | October 16, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    I seem to recall seeing a baseball card (1983 Topps?) of the Angels’ Ron Jackson, when he was teammates with Reggie. His full name was on the back of the jersey, and yes, it looked ridiculous.

    I also remember seeing Dave Brown of the New York Giants pacing the sidelines in his full-named jersey, and the letters “AVE” in “Dave” were smaller. Like “Dave BROWN” only with small capitals instead of lowercase.

    Josh’s Twin, yuo could find a ton of FNOB-only players in Japan. Ichiro is the most famous, but here players have a “registered name”, which is usually their real name, but on occasion people will choose just their given name, or even a nickname. Micheal Nakamura is called “MICHEAL”, Alex Ochoa is “ALEX”, Ryutaro Tsuji is “RYUTARO“, Doug Jennings was “D.J”, and Jeremy Powell was “JP”.

    But the best one has to be Aussie catcher Dave Nilsson. On the back of his #44 Chunichi Dragons jersey was not David or Nilsson, but… DINGO.

    Even his baseball card contains this single moniker. Madonna, Pele, and Dingo: these people don’t need surnames.

  • Matt Brown | October 16, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    Here’s a Rich Sutter jersey…

    http://sports.websho...

    On the subject of the Benes Bros. having FNOB while both with the Cardinals, I definitely do not recall that. As far as I’m aware, they each just went with “BENES.”

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | October 16, 2007 at 9:26 am |

    What about guys who have their first, middle, AND last names on their jersey?

  • drog | October 16, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    Not strictly alpha-numeric shirt numbering, but the Leicester Tigers, one of the strongest rugby sides in England, wore a mixture of letters and numbers in the mid 1920’s, and wore only letters until the mid-nineties, when the I think the league ordered the Tigers to wear only numbers. Pic at http://www.leicester...

  • Justin | October 16, 2007 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment=”157132″]Reaves played at Florida not So Florida. Hell, USF did not even have a team until ’97.[/quote]

    Is this a serious post?? Ha

  • Joe Chiaccio - Jersey-Joe.com | October 16, 2007 at 9:33 am |

    Ron and Rich Sutter (brothers) played on the Flyers at the same time in the mid 1980’s. Names on back said RON SUTTER and RICH SUTTER.

  • Joey Guns | October 16, 2007 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment=”157132″]Reaves played at Florida not So Florida. Hell, USF did not even have a team until ’97.[/quote]

    I think that might’ve just been the word “So”, not an abbreviation for South……

  • MattG | October 16, 2007 at 9:35 am |

    Robert Smith, Vikings, Early 90’s, I have no pic but I am certain of it. Also does this category include the XFL’s SSOB (Stupid Stuff on Back) policy…ah he hate me…

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | October 16, 2007 at 9:36 am |

    MattG, see comment 23.

  • Jake | October 16, 2007 at 9:37 am |

    For what it’s worth, that highlight film was from the 1959 Pro Bowl (not 1952, as it’s denoted). Gotta love the bowling-smooth voice of Chris Schenkel as the commentator.

  • Scott | October 16, 2007 at 9:40 am |

    I’m fairly sure that the Benes brothers had “AN BENES” and “AL BENES” on their jerseys when they were both on the Cardinals, but I’m unable to find a photo. I’ll keep looking.

  • Rick | October 16, 2007 at 9:43 am |

    Extremely non-uni related, but…….Happy 27th Birthday to Sue Bird!

    http://seattlepi.nws...

  • Timothy B | October 16, 2007 at 9:44 am |

    Two brothers, who were NFL kickers from back in the 70’s, early 80’s, Steve-Mike-Mayer and Nick-Mike-Mayer, I believe wore their full names on their jerseys.

    I’m searching for a photo of either…..

  • Jeff | October 16, 2007 at 9:46 am |

    I remember the Sutter brothers (there were two of them on the Blackhawks at one time), plus Dennis Potvin had a brother Jean. But in searching for either, I found this pic:

    http://www.gameworna...

    I like that bicentennial patch.

  • todd krevanchi | October 16, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    i think indian season ticket holder tom otoole already wears the hat to go with this uniform…

    from last week, it was noted that wake forest wore a patch in memory of skip prosser.

    that got me thinking.

    the front of the jersey looks cluttered with the conference patch, the skip patch and the swoosh logo.

    now, the swoosh is there anyway, whether the jersey has numbers or not as it is “part” of the shirt, but when you include the “mandatory” black mourning band worn by all acc teams that makes 3 patches and an embroidered logo for wake. can any team beat that?

  • Pete | October 16, 2007 at 9:50 am |

    Love that circa-1970 red SMU helmet. Love the white 3-bar facemask. Love the black shoes. Everything about that uni is so clean. And I really miss those high hip pads you used to see in the 70s.

  • Dane | October 16, 2007 at 9:50 am |

    I see the NHL Store at 47th & 5th finally opened there doors last week. Video footage of the grand opening can be found at http://www.nhl.com/s... or http://www.nhl.tv.

    Supposedly they will customize your jersey downstairs while you enjoy a Starbucks beverage upstairs.

    I hope to stop in later this week. If I see anything cool, it will be posted.

  • todd krevanchi | October 16, 2007 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”157158″]Extremely non-uni related, but…….Happy 27th Birthday to Sue Bird!

    http://seattlepi.nws...

    i thought i was the only one who knew!

  • possum | October 16, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    I feel as a member of the game worn collecting community that I should remind you not to forget NOBR. Name On Back Removed, common amongst junior hockey, older minor leagues, and of course the NCAA.

    Rich and Ron Sutter definitely wore full names while with the Blues in the early 90s, but I can’t find a picture of Ron to match the Rich up there. I know the same collector owns a matching set of them.

  • Shane | October 16, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    The counterpart to Tank Johnson, Todd Johnson. Another.
    And I have to agree with the previous commenter: seems like Mike and Alex Brown were both FNOB for a while, though I’m not sure why.

    And, of course, Bobby and Bobby Jones, 2000 Mets.

  • Mike P | October 16, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    Tom Brady fined $5,000 for chinstrap vio. Looks like Superman is a mere mortal after all.

    Tom Brady fined for chinstrap

  • possum | October 16, 2007 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”157160″]I remember the Sutter brothers (there were two of them on the Blackhawks at one time), plus Dennis Potvin had a brother Jean. But in searching for either, I found this pic:

    http://www.gameworna...

    I like that bicentennial patch.[/quote]
    Here is a close up of that patch. NYR gamers with the Golden/Bicentennial patch intact are incredibly rare.

  • BStu | October 16, 2007 at 10:13 am |

    Obviously, I’m not going to dispute that most of those Indians uniforms are as frightening as you might expect them to be. Still, Gary Curtain’s cap design and Mick Benitez-Santana’s home and away designs were actually pretty good. Though I don’t agree with Benitex-Santana’s use of “Tribe” in place of “Indians”.

  • Brent Bollmeier | October 16, 2007 at 10:14 am |

    Anyone know why the Vancouver Canucks wore white at home last night?

  • Brent Bollmeier | October 16, 2007 at 10:16 am |

    Oh yeah — Ron and Rich Sutter had FNOB when they played for the St. Louis Blues at the same time…

  • Paul Lukas | October 16, 2007 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment=”157173″]And, of course, Bobby and Bobby Jones, 2000 Mets.[/quote]

    They did not wear FNOB. There’d be no point to it — whether they both wore JONES, B. JONES, or BOBBY JONES, they’d still be wearing identical NOBs.

    Here’s a game shot of Andra Davis.

  • CV | October 16, 2007 at 10:18 am |

    Excuse me if I missed it, but did University of Georgia dump those crappy grey pants for white ones? Looks like it in the sock photo in the ticker.

    I kind of like the reverse colored sock as well.

  • BB | October 16, 2007 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”157155″]For what it’s worth, that highlight film was from the 1959 Pro Bowl (not 1952, as it’s denoted).[/quote]
    Makes sense; Bobby Layne didn’t play for Pittsburgh until 1958, and Buck Shaw only coached the Eagles from 1958-1960.

  • Jarred | October 16, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    Here’s from last night Canucks game, Daniel Sedin jumping to avoid a shot where you can see the gap between the socks and shorts.

  • Keith | October 16, 2007 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”157116″]Looking at those Indians’ uni designs gave me two thoughts…One, couldn’t ONE kid have been PC and renamed the team the Cleveland Bulldogs or something? Just for kicks! (besides…you know its only a matter of time…sorry Indians and Braves fans) Two, is it me or does anyone else think that REAL uniform designers work with crayon too? How else do you explain the Cincinnati Bengals??[/quote]

    If they were going to rename the Cleveland ballclub, they could just go to its original name– the Cleveland Spiders.

  • Elena E | October 16, 2007 at 10:27 am |

    AL BENES and AN BENES were used in box scores,but not on their unis. I’m 99% sure they never had anything but BENES on their jerseys. Tell ’em apart by their different numbers.

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 16, 2007 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”157159″]Two brothers, who were NFL kickers from back in the 70’s, early 80’s, Steve-Mike-Mayer and Nick-Mike-Mayer, I believe wore their full names on their jerseys.

    I’m searching for a photo of either…..[/quote]

    The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)

  • Wade | October 16, 2007 at 10:33 am |

    I thought Tra Thomas had a FNOB at one point. I know he had at least T. Thomas so that would count as a nickname like Pac-man. But he now he has switched back to William Thomas.

    Why did Isaiah have his FNOB? Was there a little know bench player called Isiat Thomas?

  • Peter G | October 16, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    Not a FNOB or even close, but the only First Name on Cap that I’ve ever seen is this guy.

  • ToasterPoodle | October 16, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    Paul,
    Why the hate for they System of Dress?
    I recall Ohio State’s unis in the final four last year, aside from WAY too large pants as something of a throwback in terms of shirt cut and design.
    Is it the design or just Nike’s pretentiousness in naming it? If its the latter, I’m with you.

  • Pat | October 16, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”157191″][quote comment=”157159″]Two brothers, who were NFL kickers from back in the 70’s, early 80’s, Steve-Mike-Mayer and Nick-Mike-Mayer, I believe wore their full names on their jerseys.

    I’m searching for a photo of either…..[/quote]

    The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)[/quote]

    Tully is on the 49ers now.

  • ScottyJ in WV | October 16, 2007 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment=”157177″]Obviously, I’m not going to dispute that most of those Indians uniforms are as frightening as you might expect them to be. Still, Gary Curtain’s cap design and Mick Benitez-Santana’s home and away designs were actually pretty good. Though I don’t agree with Benitex-Santana’s use of “Tribe” in place of “Indians”.[/quote]

    I agree, the cap design by Mr. Curtain and the uniform design by Mr. Benitez-Santana are very well done!

  • Roger Faso | October 16, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    Are UniWatch Membership Cards available FNOB?

  • Paul Lukas | October 16, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”157197″]Are UniWatch Membership Cards available FNOB?[/quote]

    If that’s what you want, sure. I still think FNOB looks kinda lame-o (especially since your full name will already be on the front of the card), but we aim to please and all that….

  • Tim | October 16, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    http://www.hockeywid...

    Every MLB team is on this Widget list EXCEPT for the Cleveland Indians. Oversight?

  • Robert | October 16, 2007 at 10:49 am |

    Re: Fans’ uniform designs for the Indians

    I liked the fan’s hat logo that featured a “C” with feathers affixed at the left side.

  • NY Nick | October 16, 2007 at 10:51 am |

    In yesterday’s comments section people were talking about the NYC flag as the reason the Knicks wear orange, blue, and white. However…does anyone here know why, for just a couple of seasons in the early 1980s, the Knicks wore RED, white, and blue? Why the two year switch to red in place of orange? I still see folks wear those throwbacks and it always really odd to me, a Knicks jersey with red lettering and numbering instead orange. Anyone know why?

  • badly drawn boykins | October 16, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”157146″]Not strictly alpha-numeric shirt numbering, but the Leicester Tigers, one of the strongest rugby sides in England, wore a mixture of letters and numbers in the mid 1920’s, and wore only letters until the mid-nineties, when the I think the league ordered the Tigers to wear only numbers. Pic at http://www.leicester... seen a rugby team wear Roman numerals instead of the standard Arabic numbers, which is pretty cool.

    Now, if FNOB is “full name on back”, then what’s the acronym for “first name on back” like Ichiro or Lee Dong-Gook of Middlesbrough or Brazilian/Portuguese/Spanish soccer players?

    Similarly, if NNOB is “no name on back”, what’s “nickname on back” like He Hate Me or, again, Brazilian/Portuguese/Spanish soccer players?

    And if you want to get really nitpicky, there’s “middle name on back” like Cristiano Ronaldo and “partial first name on back”, like Hwang Myung-Bo who simply wore “Bo” on his back when he played for the LA Galaxy.

    Finally, I’m pretty sure there wasn’t another Dunst on the Atletico Madrid squad that year.

  • Bluesfan | October 16, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    Paul-

    IF Colorado wins the World Series, I guess you won’t be wearing your purple Rockies uniform to celebrate.

    Looking at the suggested re-designs for the Indians uniforms makes you think the designer’s for the Rays knew what they were doing (scary).

    The only thing worse than the suggested new designs for the Indians was that there people who ACTUALLY wrote in and said they liked them. This is why we need drug testing in the world.

    Personally, I will buy a Cleveland Indians hat just to upset the PC crowd.

  • Matt Brown | October 16, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”157191″]The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)[/quote]

    Don’t forget Nate Hobgood-Chittick.

  • Mike W. | October 16, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    Does anyone remember what the Griffeys wore when they played together in 1989? Did they have Jr. and Sr. on the back?

  • Mike W. | October 16, 2007 at 10:55 am |

    Found my own answer

    http://www.eljefe.ne...

  • cliff rancho | October 16, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    This doesn’t really show anything, but I just thought it was funny when I was in an antique shop yesterday doing some looking around and just happened to see THIS photo. I had to take a picture of it. Same time as the baseball card, different angle.

  • My name is not Earl | October 16, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    More on names:

    (1) I’m pretty sure that toward the end of his career (maybe it was when he played with the Chargers), Deacon Jones had “Deacon” on the back of his jersey.

    (2) I don’t seem to remember Isaiah Thomas having his full name on the back of his road jersey. I’ve only ever seen pictures of him in the white jersey when he’s had both names on the back. I could be wrong on both accounts, though

  • Minna H. | October 16, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    I like the stacked FNOB, especially the straight on the top and arched on the bottom. I think the stacked looks better than the whole name on one line.

    Paul, I meant to say this earlier, but I love your re-naming Nike’s college b-ball unis “System of Dreck”. To me, that’s exactly what they strive toward–the mediocre and the banal.

    As for the “Scarlet” Knights–can’t wait to see them Back in Black!

  • Randy Miller | October 16, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    I always loved the old Pro Bowl jerseys — especially the red Eastern ones. And you could tell they were manufactured by the company that did the Rams jerseys of that era.

  • Mark Mihalik | October 16, 2007 at 11:02 am |

    Good morning, Paul.

  • Mike W. | October 16, 2007 at 11:03 am |

    My thinking of the Griffeys got me thinking about Jr, Sr, and so on.

    Anyone remember what the Ripkens wore when Cal Sr. managed and Cal Jr. and Billy played together?

    What about IIIs and IVs?

    http://media.college...

  • Ryan | October 16, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    Paul,
    This somewhat relates to FNOB, but I guess more technically is “I+NOB” (???). I noticed that neither Tom Brady nor Kyle Brady are sporting initials of their first names on their jerseys, even though, as this past game, they both appear on the field at the same time. Is there some sort of league mandate regarding this that they are breaking and being fined for? Thanks.

  • dgc | October 16, 2007 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”157219″]My thinking of the Griffeys got me thinking about Jr, Sr, and so on.

    Anyone remember what the Ripkens wore when Cal Sr. managed and Cal Jr. and Billy played together?

    What about IIIs and IVs?

    http://media.college...

    IIRC the Ripkens went with just “Ripken” on the back.

  • badly drawn boykins | October 16, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”157208″][quote comment=”157191″]The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)[/quote]

    Don’t forget Nate Hobgood-Chittick.[/quote]
    Is Chris Fuamatu-Maafala still around?

  • Paul Davis | October 16, 2007 at 11:11 am |

    Mark Smith of the Browns had his full name at one point. This isnt a good picture, but there is no other reason why Smith should be on his right shoulder.

  • Chance | October 16, 2007 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”157220″]Paul,
    This somewhat relates to FNOB, but I guess more technically is “I+NOB” (???). I noticed that neither Tom Brady nor Kyle Brady are sporting initials of their first names on their jerseys, even though, as this past game, they both appear on the field at the same time. Is there some sort of league mandate regarding this that they are breaking and being fined for? Thanks.[/quote]

    I seem to recall that the NFL changed its rules recently to allow multiple instances of the same last name without requiring initials or other modifiers.

    Makes sense – the name is only there to confirm identity, not establish it. The four sets of numbers on the jersey ought to be enough to tell various players apart even if they share a last name.

  • Doug judson | October 16, 2007 at 11:12 am |

    Excuse me if I missed it, but did University of Georgia dump those crappy grey pants for white ones? Looks like it in the sock photo in the ticker.

    I kind of like the reverse colored sock as well.

    They are silver not grey and no it is just the lighting. those pants are a change that then coach vince Dullie made, after they won the 1981 championship. it is now part of there tradition. they are sometimes refed to as the silver brtches

  • John Paul Jones | October 16, 2007 at 11:14 am |

    Dane,

    I went to the NHL store on Sat. and if there was a word for “underwhelmingly underwhelmed” I would use it. The entire store isn’t even dedicated to the NHL, there is an entire sneaker section as well as the Starbucks. They don’t even have a ton of stuff for the three locals….one thing that was cool was seeing the authentic Wild jersey which has felt on the crest. Check it out for yourself definitely, but don’t get your hopes up.

  • Ferdinand Cesarano | October 16, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    First, the uni point: in the clip of the Pro Bowl, how about that apostrophe on West coach Red Hickey’s Forty Niner hat? It said “49’ERS”.

    Second: it isn’t 1952; it is 1959. The announcer says it is the “10th renewal” of the game, which started in 1950.

    Other clues that it cannot be 1952: Hickey wasn’t yet coaching the Niners then. Also, Unitas is starting for the West (yes, Baltimore was in the West, because the AAFL Colts’ owners had been awarded the former Dallas Texans franchise in 1953), but he didn’t play in the NFL until 1956.

  • Christopher | October 16, 2007 at 11:19 am |

    Congrats to the Rockies. And, I happen to love the purple.

    However. I really think there should be an MLB rule banning alternate/third jerseys in the playoffs. Sparingly during the course of the long 162-game season, I’m fine with that.

    But not on the biggest stage.

  • Nick | October 16, 2007 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”157218″]Good morning, Paul.[/quote]

    I can live with that kind of logo creep ;-)

  • Jason | October 16, 2007 at 11:22 am |

    On that Hockey Widgets site about halfway down there’s a banner titled “Put some PURPLE on your desktop”. Just sayin’.

  • Doug | October 16, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”157181″]Excuse me if I missed it, but did University of Georgia dump those crappy grey pants for white ones? Looks like it in the sock photo in the ticker.

    I kind of like the reverse colored sock as well.[/quote]

    As a loyal UGA alum, God forbid we give up the silver (NOT grey) britches! We did not wear them under Vince Dooley (we wore white at home and red on the road) from 1964 until 1980, when we brought back the silver britches (only for home games that year, full time in ’81). With a rare exception (against Wisconsin in the Outback Bowl one year and once in the Cocktail Party against Florida, we wore black pants), its the ONLY pant we wear. It is an enduring symbol of UGA.

  • Anthony Verna | October 16, 2007 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”157115″]Actually – the last Indians’ uniform is REALLY REALLY REALLY nice.[/quote]

    Amen. Credit to Mick Benitez-Santana. Wonderfully done.

  • DenverGregg | October 16, 2007 at 11:24 am |

    I forget just what the Longhorns did in the late 70s when they had three guys each named Johnny Jones. IIRC they were Johnny “Lam” Jones; Johnny “Jam” Jones and Johnny “Ham” Jones.

    Bueller? Anyone?

  • PeterT | October 16, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    Anyone else notice that instead of the NL Champions hat that the Rockies were wearing last night, that Clint Hurdle put on his World Series hat with the logo on the side?

    Sorry, no pic.

  • Chevy | October 16, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    test

  • Jason | October 16, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    Whoops, I see the banner actually changes each time you go to the page. Guess I just got ‘lucky’.

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 16, 2007 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”157206″][quote comment=”157146″]Not strictly alpha-numeric shirt numbering, but the Leicester Tigers, one of the strongest rugby sides in England, wore a mixture of letters and numbers in the mid 1920’s, and wore only letters until the mid-nineties, when the I think the league ordered the Tigers to wear only numbers. Pic at http://www.leicester... seen a rugby team wear Roman numerals instead of the standard Arabic numbers, which is pretty cool.

    Now, if FNOB is “full name on back”, then what’s the acronym for “first name on back” like Ichiro or Lee Dong-Gook of Middlesbrough or Brazilian/Portuguese/Spanish soccer players?

    Similarly, if NNOB is “no name on back”, what’s “nickname on back” like He Hate Me or, again, Brazilian/Portuguese/Spanish soccer players?

    And if you want to get really nitpicky, there’s “middle name on back” like Cristiano Ronaldo and “partial first name on back”, like Hwang Myung-Bo who simply wore “Bo” on his back when he played for the LA Galaxy.

    Finally, I’m pretty sure there wasn’t another Dunst on the Atletico Madrid squad that year.[/quote]

    Vida Blue also wore his first name on the back.

  • Philly Bill | October 16, 2007 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”157120″]Jack and Jim Youngblood were not brothers nor were they related at all.[/quote]

    Y’know, I never knew that! Jack was born January 26, 1950, Jim February 23, 1950. So it’s impossible that they’re brothers.

  • Scott | October 16, 2007 at 11:33 am |

    Mark in Shiga (#21):

    Is ANIMAL still around? Not sure how far back you go, or if he’s on TV anymore…

  • I AM A WEREWOLF! | October 16, 2007 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”157241″]Anyone else notice that instead of the NL Champions hat that the Rockies were wearing last night, that Clint Hurdle put on his World Series hat with the logo on the side?

    Sorry, no pic.[/quote]
    Yeah, it was 2 in the morning on the east coast.

    Any wonder why that LCS was the lowest rated series of all time?

    Prepare for the lowest rated world series too.

  • Casey | October 16, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    Regarding the ribbing on the Columbia women’s rugby team – those look like soccer socks. Three (or four) different ribbings are common on soccer socks – one very tight one around the ankle to help hold shinguards in place, one around the shin and calf, and another different one around the top cuff to hold the sock up. Some have a special ribbing around the instep and arch of the foot to hold it in place there. Look on page 63 of this pdf for the best example: http://www.tcksocks....

  • Eriq Jaffe | October 16, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”157187″]If they were going to rename the Cleveland ballclub, they could just go to its original name– the Cleveland Spiders.[/quote]The Spiders and Indians are different franchises. The Spiders were a National League club that disbanded after their legendarily bad 1899 season. The current-day Indians were one of a handful of Western League teams that relocated in 1900 (the franchise has played in Grand Rapids in 1899). While nicknames were often unofficial in the early days of the American League, the Cleveland team was commonly known as the Blues.

  • Dave | October 16, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    I think the best part of new UW basketball unis is Wolfinger’s comment: “Some people say they kind of look like girl uniforms.”

  • Philly Bill | October 16, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”157132″]Hell, USF did not even have a team until ’97.[/quote]

    It’s true.

    [quote comment=”157150″]Ron and Rich Sutter (brothers) played on the Flyers at the same time in the mid 1980’s. Names on back said RON SUTTER and RICH SUTTER.[/quote]

    Also true. Have searched for photos to post here in the past but always came up empty.

    [quote comment=”157188″]AL BENES and AN BENES were used in box scores,but not on their unis. I’m 99% sure they never had anything but BENES on their jerseys. Tell ’em apart by their different numbers.[/quote]

    I thought they wore “AL” and “AN”, but I would defer to Elena, who is a Cardinals expert.

    [quote comment=”157178″]Anyone know why the Vancouver Canucks wore white at home last night?[/quote]

    Haven’t been able to find out yet. Did they have a pregame ceremony that somehow necessitated it?

  • Philly Bill | October 16, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    One other thing:

    Are the Maloneys the only example of vertically arched FNOB?

  • Shaftman | October 16, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”157247″][quote comment=”157120″]Jack and Jim Youngblood were not brothers nor were they related at all.[/quote]

    Y’know, I never knew that! Jack was born January 26, 1950, Jim February 23, 1950. So it’s impossible that they’re brothers.[/quote]

    They could have been half brothers. Not likely, but it’s a possibility.

  • joe | October 16, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    Looking at the stirrup pic with the seams to allow for a longer stirrup, it is clear tht Blair has the same thing. The outside of his right ankle clearly has the same seam and the outside of the left its harder to see but it is there.

  • Gene F. | October 16, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    Let’s not forget current hyphenate Maurice Jones-Drew

    http://mod.imageg.ne...

  • Eric B. | October 16, 2007 at 11:51 am |

    I’m not sure if this has been mentioned in the comments yet, but I’d caution against hating too much on the Indians uni designs. If you’ll notice on the caption info, most (maybe all?) of them were done by kids. And anything that gets their generation to think seriously about uni design is A Good Thing.

    Having said that… Maybe it’s just me (and it usually is), but I’d love to see a production model of that “Very Modern Travis Hafner” design. Heck, I’d even like to see them wear that in Tampa, against the Rays wearing their gradient throwbacks.

    Am I sick and wrong? Maybe I am.

  • Craig | October 16, 2007 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”157218″]Good morning, Paul.[/quote]

    I hope she’s at least 18….otherwise that goes from logo creep to logo creepy.

  • lucy | October 16, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    When Todd Johnson and Tank Johnson were both with the Chicago Bears, I believe they were both FNOB. No pictures, though.

  • FXS | October 16, 2007 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”157247″][quote comment=”157120″]Jack and Jim Youngblood were not brothers nor were they related at all.[/quote]

    Y’know, I never knew that! Jack was born January 26, 1950, Jim February 23, 1950. So it’s impossible that they’re brothers.[/quote]

    Not if Tom Brady was their Daddy.

  • Craig | October 16, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”157270″][quote comment=”157247″][quote comment=”157120″]Jack and Jim Youngblood were not brothers nor were they related at all.[/quote]

    Y’know, I never knew that! Jack was born January 26, 1950, Jim February 23, 1950. So it’s impossible that they’re brothers.[/quote]

    Not if Tom Brady was their Daddy.[/quote]

    Just be ready for a whole team of athletes with the surname “Henry” in about 20 years….Thanks Travis

  • Kim | October 16, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    Paul,

    You get to double dip with the Rich and Ron Sutter combination. They were teammates with BOTH the Flyers and Blues, and they had FNOB jerseys with both teams.

  • Mike from Queens | October 16, 2007 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”157191″][quote comment=”157159″]Two brothers, who were NFL kickers from back in the 70’s, early 80’s, Steve-Mike-Mayer and Nick-Mike-Mayer, I believe wore their full names on their jerseys.

    I’m searching for a photo of either…..[/quote]

    The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)[/quote]

    You’re forgetting this guy… off the top of my head.

  • Pat | October 16, 2007 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”157226″][quote comment=”157220″]Paul,
    This somewhat relates to FNOB, but I guess more technically is “I+NOB” (???). I noticed that neither Tom Brady nor Kyle Brady are sporting initials of their first names on their jerseys, even though, as this past game, they both appear on the field at the same time. Is there some sort of league mandate regarding this that they are breaking and being fined for? Thanks.[/quote]

    I seem to recall that the NFL changed its rules recently to allow multiple instances of the same last name without requiring initials or other modifiers.

    Makes sense – the name is only there to confirm identity, not establish it. The four sets of numbers on the jersey ought to be enough to tell various players apart even if they share a last name.[/quote]

    Plus, I’m pretty sure you can tell Tom Brady from Kyle Brady. One is 6’6″ and 280 lbs. The other has a halo. The other is 2 inches shorter, 35 lbs lighter and has a halo around his head.

  • Pat | October 16, 2007 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”157276″][quote comment=”157226″][quote comment=”157220″]Paul,
    This somewhat relates to FNOB, but I guess more technically is “I+NOB” (???). I noticed that neither Tom Brady nor Kyle Brady are sporting initials of their first names on their jerseys, even though, as this past game, they both appear on the field at the same time. Is there some sort of league mandate regarding this that they are breaking and being fined for? Thanks.[/quote]

    I seem to recall that the NFL changed its rules recently to allow multiple instances of the same last name without requiring initials or other modifiers.

    Makes sense – the name is only there to confirm identity, not establish it. The four sets of numbers on the jersey ought to be enough to tell various players apart even if they share a last name.[/quote]

    Plus, I’m pretty sure you can tell Tom Brady from Kyle Brady. One is 6’6″ and 280 lbs. The other has a halo. The other is 2 inches shorter, 35 lbs lighter and has a halo around his head.[/quote]

    Damnit, I meant to delete that first halo reference to deliver the joke in a more humorous way. Either way, Tom Brady has god-like powers beyond which any human can conceive.

  • John in Athens | October 16, 2007 at 12:11 pm |

    If you were posing for a team portrait, why would you wear your jersey backwards?

    Is the photo is from 1919?

  • Eriq Jaffe | October 16, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    Having a hard time finding a clear shot of the back, but there’s also Navy QB Kaipo-Noa Kaheaku-Enhada.

    Here’s the best thing I could find so far, at least it verifies that his name is on the back of his jersey:

  • Eriq Jaffe | October 16, 2007 at 12:17 pm |
  • Mark in Shiga | October 16, 2007 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”157248″]Mark in Shiga (#21):

    Is ANIMAL still around? Not sure how far back you go, or if he’s on TV anymore…[/quote]

    ANIMAL is not forgotten! (Except by Google, which doesn’t seem to have any pictures of his Nick-NOB jersey from Japan…)

    There’s also Mark Mimbs (mentioned earlier), who was MARK with the Orix Blue Wave, as was WILLIE Banks; DARWIN Cubillan of the Hanshin Tigers, KENSHI Kawaguchi of the Rakuten Eagles, SABURO of the Chiba Lotte Marines, and (on the national team in soccer) ALEX Santos.

    There’s also Japanese-Brazilian Chunichi minor leaguer Norberto Semanaka da Rocha, who’s used all three of his names (not including the “da”) at one time or another. Haven’t seen what’s on his back, though.

  • ginsk | October 16, 2007 at 12:21 pm |

    The Saints have 3 players with the last name of Thomas
    Fred thomas wears F. Thomas

    Pierre Thomas wears Thomas (no initial)

    and Hollis Thomas i THINK wears H Thomasn, but i cant find a picture

    weird the rookie Pierre Thomas doesnt have his initial

  • Joey Guns | October 16, 2007 at 12:22 pm |

    Sort of uni-related

    Jalen Rose was annoyed that Michigan doesn’t give the Fab Five enough credit, so he bought a billboard with the 5 jerseys of the Fab Five prominently displayed…..

    http://www.freep.com...

  • Doug | October 16, 2007 at 12:24 pm |

    Bobby Smith went FNOB with the North Stars. I can’t remember if Greg Smith did, too.
    http://sports.websho...

  • Brent Bollmeier | October 16, 2007 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”157220″]Paul,
    This somewhat relates to FNOB, but I guess more technically is “I+NOB” (???). I noticed that neither Tom Brady nor Kyle Brady are sporting initials of their first names on their jerseys, even though, as this past game, they both appear on the field at the same time. Is there some sort of league mandate regarding this that they are breaking and being fined for? Thanks.[/quote]

    Erik, Ryan and Mike Johnson all play for the Blues now, none has their first initial on their nameplate. A “non-I+NOB” Three-fer……

  • Bob Sullivan | October 16, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    When the 3 Ripkens were on the Orioles together, Cal Sr. had “Ripken”, Cal Jr. had “C. Ripken”, and Billy had “B. Ripken”.

  • possum | October 16, 2007 at 12:35 pm |

    A middle school RB died here in the Charlotte area this week. Interesting bits about HS/MS helmets here.

  • Aram | October 16, 2007 at 12:41 pm |

    Michigan Football has had a number of players have the FNOB. Ben Wright currently has it. I’ll look around for a picture. I know there were quite a few in the late 80s-early 90s, too.

  • Kevin | October 16, 2007 at 12:45 pm |

    Ron Sutter in a Blues uni:

    Here

  • Jason G. | October 16, 2007 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”157276″][quote comment=”157226″][quote comment=”157220″]Paul,
    This somewhat relates to FNOB, but I guess more technically is “I+NOB” (???). I noticed that neither Tom Brady nor Kyle Brady are sporting initials of their first names on their jerseys, even though, as this past game, they both appear on the field at the same time. Is there some sort of league mandate regarding this that they are breaking and being fined for? Thanks.[/quote]

    I seem to recall that the NFL changed its rules recently to allow multiple instances of the same last name without requiring initials or other modifiers.

    Makes sense – the name is only there to confirm identity, not establish it. The four sets of numbers on the jersey ought to be enough to tell various players apart even if they share a last name.[/quote]

    Plus, I’m pretty sure you can tell Tom Brady from Kyle Brady. One is 6’6″ and 280 lbs. The other has a halo. The other is 2 inches shorter, 35 lbs lighter and has a halo around his head.[/quote]

    You’re confusing his horns for a halo. They are easily confused.

  • Kevin G. | October 16, 2007 at 12:52 pm |

    Has anyone else noticed that Colorado Rockies pitcher Ubaldo Jimenez is wearing his stirrups backwards? He better get it corrected before the World Series.

  • badly drawn boykins | October 16, 2007 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”157226″][quote comment=”157220″]Paul,
    This somewhat relates to FNOB, but I guess more technically is “I+NOB” (???). I noticed that neither Tom Brady nor Kyle Brady are sporting initials of their first names on their jerseys, even though, as this past game, they both appear on the field at the same time. Is there some sort of league mandate regarding this that they are breaking and being fined for? Thanks.[/quote]

    I seem to recall that the NFL changed its rules recently to allow multiple instances of the same last name without requiring initials or other modifiers.

    Makes sense – the name is only there to confirm identity, not establish it. The four sets of numbers on the jersey ought to be enough to tell various players apart even if they share a last name.[/quote]
    Yeah, it used to be that players with the same last names had to be distinguished by initials, but the players who was on the team first was grandfathered (i.e. YOUNG and B. YOUNG on the 49ers in the 90s.).

  • Troy Ragsdale | October 16, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    I can’t find a picture but I’m sure the reason Marques Johnson went “FNOB” was because the Bucks also had Mickey Johnson, who also had FNOB.

  • josh's twin | October 16, 2007 at 1:10 pm |

    Good morning, Paul.

    I hope she’s at least 18….otherwise that goes from logo creep to logo creepy.

    That’s not logo-creep, that’s logo-grope.

  • Peter Wunsch | October 16, 2007 at 1:13 pm |

    When Lew Alcindor changed his name, the first year his jersey read “Jabbar”. After that it, too, was hyphenated.

  • Joe | October 16, 2007 at 1:14 pm |

    Was just thinking since the Rockies have been wearing the black jerseys becasue they have been winning with them, wear in the hell are they gonna put the world series patch on it. Are they going to put it on sleeve of jersey (way high up) or The undershirt? And is this the first time since patches started that there has been a team with a sleevles jersey.

  • Matthew S. | October 16, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”157310″]Was just thinking since the Rockies have been wearing the black jerseys becasue they have been winning with them, wear in the hell are they gonna put the world series patch on it. Are they going to put it on sleeve of jersey (way high up) or The undershirt? And is this the first time since patches started that there has been a team with a sleevles jersey.[/quote]

    They did wear their road greys in Game 2 of the NLCS, so the streak of black vest wearing is not completely unbroken.

  • scott | October 16, 2007 at 1:21 pm |

    Any wonder why that LCS was the lowest rated series of all time?

    Because ratings have gone done for everything in the last 30 years? I’d take TV ratings with a grain of salt.

    I agree with the idea that alternate jerseys should be banned from postseason play.

  • Sparks | October 16, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”157205″]In yesterday’s comments section people were talking about the NYC flag as the reason the Knicks wear orange, blue, and white. However…does anyone here know why, for just a couple of seasons in the early 1980s, the Knicks wore RED, white, and blue? Why the two year switch to red in place of orange? I still see folks wear those throwbacks and it always really odd to me, a Knicks jersey with red lettering and numbering instead orange. Anyone know why?[/quote]

    This is a good question…does anyone know? My initial guess was some sort of patriotic display by chaning to red white and blue, but it happened AFTER the bicentennial, so I doubt that. Was this a nod to some old NY basketball franchise? Here’s a link to the early 80s Knicks unis:
    http://www.onlinespo...

  • Big O | October 16, 2007 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”157293″]When the 3 Ripkens were on the Orioles together, Cal Sr. had “Ripken”, Cal Jr. had “C. Ripken”, and Billy had “B. Ripken”.[/quote]

    I don’t remeber Cal and Billy having first initials. I remember them like this.

  • Eric S. | October 16, 2007 at 1:25 pm |

    Not sure if Marcus Oquendo-Johnson ever made it in the NFL, but his name always made me laugh.

  • N. | October 16, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    here are some pics that I snapped on this year’s opening game against Texas Tech. There was a tent set up on the Boulevard that had many of the past helmets that the team has used over the years. Enjoy..

  • N. | October 16, 2007 at 1:32 pm |

    O yeah. I forgot to mention that the above post was SMU Uniform-related…

  • Matthew | October 16, 2007 at 1:36 pm |

    Not sure if its been commented on, but I think those rugby socks are just turned over to create the effect of two differing fabrics. So really it is only one ribbing pattern.

  • Eriq Jaffe | October 16, 2007 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”157309″]When Lew Alcindor changed his name, the first year his jersey read “Jabbar”. After that it, too, was hyphenated.[/quote]Remember when Kareem Abdul-Jabbar sued Kareem Abdul-Jabbar?

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Brandon T. | October 16, 2007 at 1:52 pm |

    Widgets are neat little tools available on Mac OSX Tiger. Just hit F12 on your keyboard if it’s a newer Mac and that will bring them up.

    Also, Chris Jackson (football player, not basketball player) for LSU had a FNOB jersey a few years ago, but I haven’t been able to find a pic.

    BT

  • jesse | October 16, 2007 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”157287″]Sort of uni-related

    Jalen Rose was annoyed that Michigan doesn’t give the Fab Five enough credit, so he bought a billboard with the 5 jerseys of the Fab Five prominently displayed…..

    http://www.freep.com...

    Didn’t Michigan have to forefit an entire season of games that the “fab five” played in, along with taking down their final four and Big Ten championchip banners due to illegal payments to members of that group? Prehaps that’s why they don’t get a lot of credit.

  • Carl G | October 16, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”157207″]Paul-

    IF Colorado wins the World Series, I guess you won’t be wearing your purple Rockies uniform to celebrate.

    Looking at the suggested re-designs for the Indians uniforms makes you think the designer’s for the Rays knew what they were doing (scary).

    The only thing worse than the suggested new designs for the Indians was that there people who ACTUALLY wrote in and said they liked them. This is why we need drug testing in the world.

    Personally, I will buy a Cleveland Indians hat just to upset the PC crowd.[/quote]

    Honestly, seems like most of the entries were from children. Think we should give them a break and applaud them for trying, and maybe make them honorary uni watch members

  • Chad S. | October 16, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    The Indianapolis Colts had Dexter and Darrell Reid the past few seasons. Dexter was cut after the Super Bowl last year so Darrell just has Reid this year instead of the FNOB.

  • John in Sacramento | October 16, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”157232″]Congrats to the Rockies.
    I really think there should be an MLB rule banning alternate/third jerseys in the playoffs. Sparingly during the course of the long 162-game season, I’m fine with that.

    Right on, Christopher. I was lucky enough to attend the All-Star game in SF, and the best part (besides a good game) was that the players wore only their home whites and road greys. The visual impact was wonderful. The Rockies have nice home and road unis, both with pinstripes. The only time they wore the greys was when the DBacks wore black.

    Re the Indians’ uni contest, I think one thing for certain is that the next wave of uni changes will be away from the traditional 40s to 60s unis. Notice that many alternative unis next year will be powder blue. As the fan base gets younger, “old school” will mean the 70s, not the 50s. However, anything that causes Cleveland to get rid of that offensive wahoo logo will be good.

  • al | October 16, 2007 at 1:58 pm |

    SOD returns at Syracuse
    http://www.suathleti...
    Why couldn’t they continue the pattern from the pants onto the jersey? It might actually look good.

  • Joe S | October 16, 2007 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”157325″]Not sure if its been commented on, but I think those rugby socks are just turned over to create the effect of two differing fabrics. So really it is only one ribbing pattern.[/quote]
    The socks are folded over, but they are two different ribbing patterns. When you fold over knitting, the pattern is opposite. The bottom ribbing is about 20 knits to 2 purls, which creates a 2-stitch “groove” about 20 stitches apart. Inside-out this would be a 2-stitch “rib” about every 20 stitches. And you can actually see this at the top right where the fold is by her knee.

    What would be the top if the sock were all the way up is a different pattern – knit 2, purl 2, which creates even ribbing.

    Clearly you’re not a knitter!

  • Kim | October 16, 2007 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”157297″]Ron Sutter in a Blues uni:

    Here[/quote]

    Whoa! There’s lots of great uni things in that picture!

    The Blues shoulder patch, the large font vertical ’22’ on Sutter’s helmet, the nameplate only linesman’s jersey, the Cooper on the back of his helmet (a non-standard place), and the fact that Cooper still existed.

  • Joe S | October 16, 2007 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”157340″][quote comment=”157297″]Ron Sutter in a Blues uni:

    Here[/quote]

    Whoa! There’s lots of great uni things in that picture!

    The Blues shoulder patch, the large font vertical ’22’ on Sutter’s helmet, the nameplate only linesman’s jersey, the Cooper on the back of his helmet (a non-standard place), and the fact that Cooper still existed.[/quote]

    I started flipping through this album and came across this. I imagine the guy’s jaw is broken or something, but man, that is quite a helmet!

  • Zurk | October 16, 2007 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”157301″]Has anyone else noticed that Colorado Rockies pitcher Ubaldo Jimenez is wearing his stirrups backwards? He better get it corrected before the World Series.[/quote]

    Has been wearing them backwards since he has been called up with the Rockies.

  • Joey Guns | October 16, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”157331″][quote comment=”157287″]Sort of uni-related

    Jalen Rose was annoyed that Michigan doesn’t give the Fab Five enough credit, so he bought a billboard with the 5 jerseys of the Fab Five prominently displayed…..

    http://www.freep.com...

    Didn’t Michigan have to forefit an entire season of games that the “fab five” played in, along with taking down their final four and Big Ten championchip banners due to illegal payments to members of that group? Prehaps that’s why they don’t get a lot of credit.[/quote]

    I agree 100%. I was just repeating what Jalen Rose said…..

  • KP | October 16, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”157199″]http://www.hockeywidgets.com/hockeyfan/browse?sport=mlb

    Every MLB team is on this Widget list EXCEPT for the Cleveland Indians. Oversight?[/quote]

    Not anymore…

  • Stubyg | October 16, 2007 at 2:15 pm |

    When I was in high school, there were two unrelated guys on the football team that shared a last name and first initial. Their jerseys read something like “SMITH, JOHN” AND “SMITH, JIM”.

    Weird also is the Acie Law IV jersey for Texas A&M. Not really necessary because he was the only “LAW” on the team and actually incorrect because “IV” refers to his first name not his last.

  • BurghFan | October 16, 2007 at 2:17 pm |

    I seem to recall that the NFL changed its rules recently to allow multiple instances of the same last name without requiring initials or other modifiers.

    The NFL never required initials. The Steelers had several guys named Davis in the early ’70s, none of whom wore an initial, and last-name-only has remained the case through Aaron and Marvel (and now Anthony) Smith for the last several years.

  • John Zajac | October 16, 2007 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”157113″]The NBDL’s Colorado 14ers…Check out the first picture on their page…its the new(old) nba ball with blue seams instead of normal black…whats up with that?[/quote]

    How did nobody comment on the adidas logo on the front of the jersey in that pic? I mean, the blue seams are cool and all, but not cool enough to distract me from that logo…

  • John Zajac | October 16, 2007 at 2:22 pm |

    As soon as I posted that I realized… that must be from one of those special nights where D-League teams wore the jerseys of the NBA relatives, and all those jerseys had the adidas logo on them. That must explain the ball too.

  • mrachmiel | October 16, 2007 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”157208″][quote comment=”157191″]The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)[/quote]

    Don’t forget Nate Hobgood-Chittick.[/quote]

    How about the first name hyphen of R-Kal Trulock?
    (Or was it Turlock?)

  • Kim | October 16, 2007 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”157341″][quote comment=”157340″][quote comment=”157297″]Ron Sutter in a Blues uni:

    Here[/quote]

    Whoa! There’s lots of great uni things in that picture!

    The Blues shoulder patch, the large font vertical ’22’ on Sutter’s helmet, the nameplate only linesman’s jersey, the Cooper on the back of his helmet (a non-standard place), and the fact that Cooper still existed.[/quote]

    I started flipping through this album and came across this. I imagine the guy’s jaw is broken or something, but man, that is quite a helmet![/quote]

    That’s Pat Lafontaine. He did have a broken jaw, and it is quite an impressive rig.

  • todd krevanchi | October 16, 2007 at 2:31 pm |

    check out this little nuggett i found…
    i know its not authentic, but hey, how often do you see one of them?
    teebz? i think i hear you placing a bid…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • mrachmiel | October 16, 2007 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”157354″][quote comment=”157208″][quote comment=”157191″]The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)[/quote]

    Don’t forget Nate Hobgood-Chittick.[/quote]

    How about the first name hyphen of R-Kal Trulock?
    (Or was it Turlock?)[/quote]

    Per Wikipedia, it’s Truluck.

  • TK | October 16, 2007 at 2:35 pm |

    Paul, have you gotten any hate mail from players (like VJ up there) who may have gotten away with a uni-violation until one of the NFL watchdogs jumped on the blog and realized that someone deserves a fine?

  • Pat | October 16, 2007 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”157351″]As soon as I posted that I realized… that must be from one of those special nights where D-League teams wore the jerseys of the NBA relatives, and all those jerseys had the adidas logo on them. That must explain the ball too.[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure all NBDL uniforms have manufacturer logos on them. Whether it was Reebok a few years ago. You can barely make out an adidas logo on the guy in yellow here (blue seams on that ball as well.

  • Erich | October 16, 2007 at 2:45 pm |

    Never really knew what Widgets did til I visited Hockey Widgets today and now I have them all over… Great site!!!

  • Jason Axel | October 16, 2007 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”157359″][quote comment=”157351″]As soon as I posted that I realized… that must be from one of those special nights where D-League teams wore the jerseys of the NBA relatives, and all those jerseys had the adidas logo on them. That must explain the ball too.[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure all NBDL uniforms have manufacturer logos on them. Whether it was Reebok a few years ago. You can barely make out an adidas logo on the guy in yellow here (blue seams on that ball as well.[/quote]

    All interesting…my next question…is the NBDL using the new age ball this year, or do they go as the NBA goes concerning the ball sitaution?

  • Pat | October 16, 2007 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”157363″][quote comment=”157359″][quote comment=”157351″]As soon as I posted that I realized… that must be from one of those special nights where D-League teams wore the jerseys of the NBA relatives, and all those jerseys had the adidas logo on them. That must explain the ball too.[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure all NBDL uniforms have manufacturer logos on them. Whether it was Reebok a few years ago. You can barely make out an adidas logo on the guy in yellow here (blue seams on that ball as well.[/quote]

    All interesting…my next question…is the NBDL using the new age ball this year, or do they go as the NBA goes concerning the ball sitaution?[/quote]

    NBDL has been using the “new” ball for the past 2 seasons I believe, and will continuie to this season. It’s on a trial basis in the NBDL, like a lot of things that eventually end up in the NBA are. (They try new rules and other things in the NBDL before bringing them to the NBA) Those guys are just happy to have a job playing basketball so they can’t really complain about the material used for the ball. In fact, before last season’s blow up about the ball the NBA had tested the new ball at the All-Star game the prior season without so much as a peep from anyone. That’s probably half the reason why they thought they could implement it last season.

  • philip | October 16, 2007 at 2:52 pm |

    Though I can’t, on principle (the “purple? ew!” principle), root for the Rockies in the World Series I am excited to get at least four more nights of watching Clint Hurdle’s hat bounce up and down from his impossibly vigorous gum-chewing.

    Might I suggest he go up half a size?

  • dm00n | October 16, 2007 at 2:52 pm |

    Hah.

    The Southeastern Conference fined Kentucky $50,000 yesterday for failing to prevent fans from rushing the field after the Wildcats’ triple-overtime victory Saturday over top-ranked LSU.

    I don’t know how they would have stopped that.

  • possum | October 16, 2007 at 2:52 pm |

    How none of us have remembered Darrent Williams today is beyond me. I have a couple buddies that are Broncos fans and I believe I remember that there were a couple of D Williams’s on the team. I know one of them was DJ Williams. And as I look further, it was just the two of them.

  • possum | October 16, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”157368″]How none of us have remembered Darrent Williams today is beyond me. I have a couple buddies that are Broncos fans and I believe I remember that there were a couple of D Williams’s on the team. I know one of them was DJ Williams. And as I look further, it was just the two of them.[/quote]
    Doh! Just re-read Paul’s original text.

  • Philly Bill | October 16, 2007 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”157355″]check out this little nuggett i found…
    i know its not authentic, but hey, how often do you see one of them?
    teebz? i think i hear you placing a bid…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Can you even imagine how difficult it must be to find someone who can add the “seasick” name and number to one of those jerseys?

  • Stubyg | October 16, 2007 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”157354″][quote comment=”157208″][quote comment=”157191″]The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)[/quote]

    Don’t forget Nate Hobgood-Chittick.[/quote]

    How about the first name hyphen of R-Kal Trulock?
    (Or was it Turlock?)[/quote]
    Isn’t Maurice Jones-Drew hyphenated? What about Antwaan Randle-El?

  • MLB2PDX | October 16, 2007 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”157366″]Though I can’t, on principle (the “purple? ew!” principle), root for the Rockies in the World Series…[/quote]

    Being an Oregon Ducks and Green Bay Packers fan (thus, near hatred for the Washington Huskies and Minnesota Vikings) I dislike purple as much as anyone. That being said, there is no question that I am rooting for the Rockies, and have been since the playoffs started, since the team unanimously voted to give 100% of the playoff bonuses to the widow of Mike Coolbaugh. How impressive is that?! Almost as impressive as the run they’re on…

  • Philly Bill | October 16, 2007 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”157297″]Ron Sutter in a Blues uni:

    Here[/quote]

    Dollars to donuts that’ll end up linked in a Page 2 column. Great shot!

    At first I thought that was Rich Sutter on the right because of the long nameplate, but now I think it’s Paul Cavallini (#14), sporting the first initial ’cause they also had Gino Cavallini on the roster.

    [quote comment=”157333″]The Indianapolis Colts had Dexter and Darrell Reid the past few seasons. Dexter was cut after the Super Bowl last year so Darrell just has Reid this year instead of the FNOB.[/quote]

    Good one. Here’s a marginally legible shot of Dexter’s nameplate after the Super Bowl. In this shot of Darrell, all you can see is that his nameplate is certainly much longer than just “Reid.”

  • Paul Lukas | October 16, 2007 at 3:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”157358″]Paul, have you gotten any hate mail from players (like VJ up there) who may have gotten away with a uni-violation until one of the NFL watchdogs jumped on the blog and realized that someone deserves a fine?[/quote]

    Let’s face it, if any NFL watchdogs were reading this site, LaDainian Tomlinson would surely have an American flag decal on his helmet by now.

  • todd krevanchi | October 16, 2007 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”157374″]That being said, there is no question that I am rooting for the Rockies, and have been since the playoffs started, since the team unanimously voted to give 100% of the playoff bonuses to the widow of Mike Coolbaugh. How impressive is that?! Almost as impressive as the run they’re on…[/quote]

    i was under the impression that the rockies just voted to award a full players share to the family and not all the shares…
    either way, a great gesture from the rock pile…

  • Anthony Verna | October 16, 2007 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”157378″][quote comment=”157374″]That being said, there is no question that I am rooting for the Rockies, and have been since the playoffs started, since the team unanimously voted to give 100% of the playoff bonuses to the widow of Mike Coolbaugh. How impressive is that?! Almost as impressive as the run they’re on…[/quote]

    i was under the impression that the rockies just voted to award a full players share to the family and not all the shares…
    either way, a great gesture from the rock pile…[/quote]

    Literalist. :)

  • Neil | October 16, 2007 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”157260″]One other thing:

    Are the Maloneys the only example of vertically arched FNOB?[/quote]

    Not in that era.

  • Card fan in the 'Ville | October 16, 2007 at 3:45 pm |

    University of Louisville is getting new B-Ball uniforms. Much improved.

    Old vs. New.

  • Shaftman | October 16, 2007 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”157391″]University of Louisville is getting new B-Ball uniforms. Much improved.

    Old vs. New.[/quote]

    …or equally horrific.

  • Card fan in the 'Ville | October 16, 2007 at 3:58 pm |

    Here is a better picture of 2006, 2005. The new ones are much better.

  • Neil | October 16, 2007 at 3:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”157370″][quote comment=”157355″]check out this little nuggett i found…
    i know its not authentic, but hey, how often do you see one of them?
    teebz? i think i hear you placing a bid…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Can you even imagine how difficult it must be to find someone who can add the “seasick” name and number to one of those jerseys?[/quote]

    Shameless plug: http://www.gamedaysp...

    This is my guy, he’s done 25-30 jerseys for me.

  • MLB2PDX | October 16, 2007 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”157378″]i was under the impression that the rockies just voted to award a full players share to the family and not all the shares…
    either way, a great gesture from the rock pile…[/quote]

    Just re-read some media articles. You are correct. I misunderstood things when I first heard that. But yeah, either way, very nice gesture regardless.

  • Michael Doucette | October 16, 2007 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”157297″]Ron Sutter in a Blues uni:

    Here[/quote]

    Gotta love those helmet numbers stacked on top of each other like that!!!

  • Jeff B | October 16, 2007 at 4:15 pm |

    Well when the Bears had Tank Johnson with his FNOB, it was because they also had Todd Johnson with his FNOB, unfortunately he never did anything, and pictures seem to have never existed.

    Also NOB related, Iowa WR Derrell Johnson-Koulianos wears “J.- Koulianos” on his jersey. Again no picture.

  • dm00n | October 16, 2007 at 4:25 pm |

    Hmm, I don’t get what is going on here.

  • Kevin | October 16, 2007 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”157391″]University of Louisville is getting new B-Ball uniforms. Much improved.

    Old vs. New.[/quote]

    are they trying to show some cleavage or what?

  • Banker Bill | October 16, 2007 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”157129″]Or how about players who have the initial of their nickname on their back, as Pacman Jones had P. Jones, and not A. Jones on his jersey.[/quote]

    I seem to remember former Giants linebacker Thomas “Pepper” Johnson wearing “P JOHNSON” on his old #52 in blue.

  • dm00n | October 16, 2007 at 4:32 pm |

    Apparently the Cardinals have a bat boy who wears (or wore) “Josh” on the back of his uni, with the number 06 (6 is retired for Stan Musial). Any better pictures than this?

  • Greg | October 16, 2007 at 4:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”157310″]Was just thinking since the Rockies have been wearing the black jerseys becasue they have been winning with them, wear in the hell are they gonna put the world series patch on it. Are they going to put it on sleeve of jersey (way high up) or The undershirt? And is this the first time since patches started that there has been a team with a sleevles jersey.[/quote]

    The White Sox have a sleeveless jersey but never used it in the World Series so we never got to find out. The Marlins wore a sleeveless home jersey in the 97 World Series but they appear to have no WS patch. The sleeve patch is a Marlin logo.

  • Patrick | October 16, 2007 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”157391″]University of Louisville is getting new B-Ball uniforms. Much improved.

    Old vs. New.[/quote]

    When I clicked on the new link I was expecting to see something significantly better, but wow, they are still really bad.

    That super low neckline is, um, not flattering.

  • S Bennett | October 16, 2007 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”157405″]Hmm, I don’t get what is going on here.[/quote]

    Just some moron figuring out when he might be on TV. Sadly, it’s pretty common – even more common than seeing people on their cell phones calling buddies when they have tix behind home plate.

  • Banker Bill | October 16, 2007 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”157341″][quote comment=”157340″][quote comment=”157297″]Ron Sutter in a Blues uni:

    Here[/quote]

    Whoa! There’s lots of great uni things in that picture!

    The Blues shoulder patch, the large font vertical ’22’ on Sutter’s helmet, the nameplate only linesman’s jersey, the Cooper on the back of his helmet (a non-standard place), and the fact that Cooper still existed.[/quote]

    I started flipping through this album and came across this. I imagine the guy’s jaw is broken or something, but man, that is quite a helmet![/quote]

    That was Pat LaFontaine – and yes, he had a broken jaw – I used to call that his Stormtrooper helmet.

  • Ryan | October 16, 2007 at 4:59 pm |

    Does anyone know how to find the name of the exact font a team uses for their nameplate/player numbers? I’m specifically looking for SF Giants if anyone has info where to find this. Thanks!

  • Broker75 | October 16, 2007 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”157396″][quote comment=”157370″][quote comment=”157355″]check out this little nuggett i found…
    i know its not authentic, but hey, how often do you see one of them?
    teebz? i think i hear you placing a bid…
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Can you even imagine how difficult it must be to find someone who can add the “seasick” name and number to one of those jerseys?[/quote]

    Shameless plug: http://www.gamedaysp...

    This is my guy, he’s done 25-30 jerseys for me.[/quote]
    From what I’ve been reading and hearing it looks like there will be a 3rd jersey for NHL teams again, if there is the Maple Leafs should go to these. or this, (love the A). That link has some good viewing material.

  • Mark in Cincy | October 16, 2007 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”157411″][quote comment=”157310″]Was just thinking since the Rockies have been wearing the black jerseys becasue they have been winning with them, wear in the hell are they gonna put the world series patch on it. Are they going to put it on sleeve of jersey (way high up) or The undershirt? And is this the first time since patches started that there has been a team with a sleevles jersey.[/quote]

    The White Sox have a sleeveless jersey but never used it in the World Series so we never got to find out. The Marlins wore a sleeveless home jersey in the 97 World Series but they appear to have no WS patch. The sleeve patch is a Marlin logo.[/quote]
    Sure looks like there was a patch for the Diamondbacks, on the right sleeve.

  • Austin | October 16, 2007 at 5:04 pm |

    A couple of years back both Brian & Bracy Walker of the Detroit Lions wore FNOBs. It was as ugly as the team’s performance…

  • Bob Rios | October 16, 2007 at 5:14 pm |

    Black is the new red…

    Rutgers Scarlet Knights will wear all black?

    Don’t the Texas Tech Red Raiders do that a lot, too?

  • bob3 | October 16, 2007 at 5:17 pm |

    I think the new Football ref Jerseys were inspired by the latest Newcastle United Home jersey (they have had the black and white vertical stripes for 100 years but rarely this ugly)

  • Mike | October 16, 2007 at 5:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”157420″][quote comment=”157411″][quote comment=”157310″]Was just thinking since the Rockies have been wearing the black jerseys becasue they have been winning with them, wear in the hell are they gonna put the world series patch on it. Are they going to put it on sleeve of jersey (way high up) or The undershirt? And is this the first time since patches started that there has been a team with a sleevles jersey.[/quote]

    The White Sox have a sleeveless jersey but never used it in the World Series so we never got to find out. The Marlins wore a sleeveless home jersey in the 97 World Series but they appear to have no WS patch. The sleeve patch is a Marlin logo.[/quote]
    Sure looks like there was a patch for the Diamondbacks, on the right sleeve.[/quote]
    What about the Angels in ’02? Or did they not have vests yet.

  • emd2k3 | October 16, 2007 at 5:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”157187″][quote comment=”157116″]Looking at those Indians’ uni designs gave me two thoughts…One, couldn’t ONE kid have been PC and renamed the team the Cleveland Bulldogs or something? Just for kicks! (besides…you know its only a matter of time…sorry Indians and Braves fans) Two, is it me or does anyone else think that REAL uniform designers work with crayon too? How else do you explain the Cincinnati Bengals??[/quote]

    If they were going to rename the Cleveland ballclub, they could just go to its original name– the Cleveland Spiders.[/quote]

    Completely different team.

  • Dennis Abrams | October 16, 2007 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”157191″][quote comment=”157159″]Two brothers, who were NFL kickers from back in the 70’s, early 80’s, Steve-Mike-Mayer and Nick-Mike-Mayer, I believe wore their full names on their jerseys.

    I’m searching for a photo of either…..[/quote]

    The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)[/quote]
    There’s Karim Abdul-Jabbar of the Dolphins and the Gbaja-Biamila brothers. Hyphenated names aren’t rare at all in the NFL.

  • Matthew S. | October 16, 2007 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”157426″]Black is the new red…

    Rutgers Scarlet Knights will wear all black?

    Don’t the Texas Tech Red Raiders do that a lot, too?[/quote]

    They did just that last Saturday against Texas A&M. Video of it is here: http://sports.espn.g...

    The difference is that black is, along with red, one of Tech’s colors. So for them to wear mostly black, even though they are the Red Raiders, is not totally egregious. It is pretty damn ugly however.

  • Tyler Young | October 16, 2007 at 5:41 pm |

    Speaking of college football teams wearing unusual colored uniforms, has there been any word yet on Notre Dame wearing the green this season? They might as well start trying whatever they can for some wins.

  • J | October 16, 2007 at 5:45 pm |

    The NHL is testing out heated blades. Sounds interesting. Apparently this will start a revolution. Personally, I think it will just end up with a lot of water on rinks.
    Link: http://sports.yahoo....

  • Kyle O. from VA | October 16, 2007 at 5:51 pm |

    I found a smallish in-game photo of André Davis’ FNOB jersey here . I got a kick out of the Browns drafting André and Andra Davis in the same draft in ’02 — hence the necessity of FNOBs for them.

    Also, this is driving me nuts that I can’t find confirmation anywhere, but I would have sworn that there was an accent on the “E” in “ANDRÉ” on the authentic game jersey – which makes it a rare FNOB with non-hyphen punctuation. But the replicas all seem to be accentless. Can anyone prove me right or wrong?

  • Matt | October 16, 2007 at 5:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”157371″][quote comment=”157354″][quote comment=”157208″][quote comment=”157191″]The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)[/quote]

    Don’t forget Nate Hobgood-Chittick.[/quote]

    How about the first name hyphen of R-Kal Trulock?
    (Or was it Turlock?)[/quote]
    Isn’t Maurice Jones-Drew hyphenated? What about Antwaan Randle-El?[/quote]

    Jones Drew is hyphenated although he just went by Drew when he was at UCLA. Randle El is not and has never been hyphenated, at least not on the back of a jersey…even dating back to his college days at Indiana.

  • Mike Edgerly | October 16, 2007 at 5:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”157132″]Reaves played at Florida not So Florida. Hell, USF did not even have a team until ’97.[/quote]
    I think he meant the word “So” not as an abbreviation for “South”. But heck, Reaves is from Tampa!

  • Andre Roussimoff | October 16, 2007 at 6:03 pm |

    What about the two Chris Jones’s at Miami? Of course only Chris T. made it to the pros, where he had one good year with the Eagles.

    Speaking of the Eagles, William Thomas used to have “Tra Thomas” on the back of his jersey when the Eagles signed a guy named Tarlos Thomas. Tarlos Thomas was terrible and I don’t think even made it out of the preseason, but I think the “Tra Thomas” nameplate stuck around a while.

  • Stubyg | October 16, 2007 at 6:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”157446″][quote comment=”157371″][quote comment=”157354″][quote comment=”157208″][quote comment=”157191″]The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)[/quote]

    Don’t forget Nate Hobgood-Chittick.[/quote]

    How about the first name hyphen of R-Kal Trulock?
    (Or was it Turlock?)[/quote]
    Isn’t Maurice Jones-Drew hyphenated? What about Antwaan Randle-El?[/quote]

    Jones Drew is hyphenated although he just went by Drew when he was at UCLA. Randle El is not and has never been hyphenated, at least not on the back of a jersey…even dating back to his college days at Indiana.[/quote]
    Thanks, I wasn’t sure on that.

    A side note: I have been collecting interesting spellings of the name “Antoine” for the past 10 years. I was up to 31 as of yesterday and most have come from the football world. Last night I was at my local grocery store (Publix) and noticed the Manager on Duty was named “Antwaine”. Bingo, make it 32!

    I’ll post all the variations if anyone’s interested (maybe I’ll pick up a few more that way). Knowing the Uni Watch crowd, I’m probably not the only one with this particular obsession.

  • Luke | October 16, 2007 at 6:16 pm |

    Can anyone tell me if the Penguins authentic jerseys use a nameplate?

  • Johnny O | October 16, 2007 at 6:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”157441″]The NHL is testing out heated blades. Sounds interesting. Apparently this will start a revolution. Personally, I think it will just end up with a lot of water on rinks.
    Link: http://sports.yahoo....

    I don’t play hokey so I don’t know the logistics of this… but why can’t hockey skates have the special “clamp-blade” the long track speed skaters use? If I remember correctly, when they introduced those clamp-blades, it literally revolutionized speed skating and people broke world records left and right. Is that technology not possible with hockey skates?

  • josh's twin | October 16, 2007 at 6:19 pm |

    I seem to remember Claudell Washington had a stacked FNOB when he was with the A’s, but I can’t figure out why. Finley hired track man Herb Washington to be the pinch base stealer, a job for which he had no proclivity at all, and his stint in baseball was mercifully brief. I don’t know of another C. Washington at the time that would have necessatated Claudell’s stack. Sadly, no pix.

  • John in Athens | October 16, 2007 at 6:31 pm |

    1930’s terra-cotta sports uniforms critiqued at Forgotten NY!

    (About 2/3’s of the way down.)

  • Johnny O | October 16, 2007 at 6:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”157456″][quote comment=”157441″]The NHL is testing out heated blades. Sounds interesting. Apparently this will start a revolution. Personally, I think it will just end up with a lot of water on rinks.
    Link: http://sports.yahoo....

    I don’t play hokey so I don’t know the logistics of this… but why can’t hockey skates have the special “clamp-blade” the long track speed skaters use? If I remember correctly, when they introduced those clamp-blades, it literally revolutionized speed skating and people broke world records left and right. Is that technology not possible with hockey skates?[/quote]
    Damn… should say “I don’t play hockey…”

  • John Lintner | October 16, 2007 at 6:45 pm |

    Paul,

    I thought about you this morning on my morning drive while listening to KNBR 680 in the Bay Area, they were talking about the Rockies and said “The Rockies are going to the World Series. A team whos colors are black and purple, and wears vests.

  • Dom | October 16, 2007 at 6:54 pm |

    You can see the name Andra on the jersey behind Randle El for Andra Davis

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Shaftman | October 16, 2007 at 6:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”157456″][quote comment=”157441″]The NHL is testing out heated blades. Sounds interesting. Apparently this will start a revolution. Personally, I think it will just end up with a lot of water on rinks.
    Link: http://sports.yahoo....

    I don’t play hokey so I don’t know the logistics of this… but why can’t hockey skates have the special “clamp-blade” the long track speed skaters use? If I remember correctly, when they introduced those clamp-blades, it literally revolutionized speed skating and people broke world records left and right. Is that technology not possible with hockey skates?[/quote]

    My guess is those would be tough to stop in as the lateral movement might snap the blade off the boot.

  • Mike Engle | October 16, 2007 at 7:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”157456″][quote comment=”157441″]The NHL is testing out heated blades. Sounds interesting. Apparently this will start a revolution. Personally, I think it will just end up with a lot of water on rinks.
    Link: http://sports.yahoo....

    I don’t play hokey so I don’t know the logistics of this… but why can’t hockey skates have the special “clamp-blade” the long track speed skaters use? If I remember correctly, when they introduced those clamp-blades, it literally revolutionized speed skating and people broke world records left and right. Is that technology not possible with hockey skates?[/quote]
    Shorter blades make it possible to turn around faster. It’s kind of a big deal in hockey. (Ever see a speed skater suddenly start skating backwards? I don’t think so.) But goalie skates are much longer than “player” skates, as they skate around much less and in a smaller area. Not to mention that goalies feel more stable and can execute more skate saves with the longer blades.
    In conclusion, hockey blades vary in length, but it would be stupid for them to be as long as a speed skater’s blade.

  • Christopher | October 16, 2007 at 7:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”157451″][quote comment=”157446″][quote comment=”157371″][quote comment=”157354″][quote comment=”157208″][quote comment=”157191″]The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)[/quote]

    Don’t forget Nate Hobgood-Chittick.[/quote]

    How about the first name hyphen of R-Kal Trulock?
    (Or was it Turlock?)[/quote]
    Isn’t Maurice Jones-Drew hyphenated? What about Antwaan Randle-El?[/quote]

    Jones Drew is hyphenated although he just went by Drew when he was at UCLA. Randle El is not and has never been hyphenated, at least not on the back of a jersey…even dating back to his college days at Indiana.[/quote]
    Thanks, I wasn’t sure on that.

    A side note: I have been collecting interesting spellings of the name “Antoine” for the past 10 years. I was up to 31 as of yesterday and most have come from the football world. Last night I was at my local grocery store (Publix) and noticed the Manager on Duty was named “Antwaine”. Bingo, make it 32!

    I’ll post all the variations if anyone’s interested (maybe I’ll pick up a few more that way). Knowing the Uni Watch crowd, I’m probably not the only one with this particular obsession.[/quote]

    I’m interested… post them!

  • Perry | October 16, 2007 at 7:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”157340″][quote comment=”157297″]Ron Sutter in a Blues uni:

    Here[/quote]

    Whoa! There’s lots of great uni things in that picture!

    The Blues shoulder patch, the large font vertical ’22’ on Sutter’s helmet, the nameplate only linesman’s jersey, the Cooper on the back of his helmet (a non-standard place), and the fact that Cooper still existed.[/quote]

    Not to mention that it was in the old St. Louis Arena, which was a GREAT place to watch hockey.

  • Stuby | October 16, 2007 at 7:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”157474″][quote comment=”157451″][quote comment=”157446″][quote comment=”157371″][quote comment=”157354″][quote comment=”157208″][quote comment=”157191″]The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)[/quote]

    Don’t forget Nate Hobgood-Chittick.[/quote]

    How about the first name hyphen of R-Kal Trulock?
    (Or was it Turlock?)[/quote]
    Isn’t Maurice Jones-Drew hyphenated? What about Antwaan Randle-El?[/quote]

    Jones Drew is hyphenated although he just went by Drew when he was at UCLA. Randle El is not and has never been hyphenated, at least not on the back of a jersey…even dating back to his college days at Indiana.[/quote]
    Thanks, I wasn’t sure on that.

    A side note: I have been collecting interesting spellings of the name “Antoine” for the past 10 years. I was up to 31 as of yesterday and most have come from the football world. Last night I was at my local grocery store (Publix) and noticed the Manager on Duty was named “Antwaine”. Bingo, make it 32!

    I’ll post all the variations if anyone’s interested (maybe I’ll pick up a few more that way). Knowing the Uni Watch crowd, I’m probably not the only one with this particular obsession.[/quote]

    I’m interested… post them![/quote]
    OK, here we go (I wish I had documented where I found each one – sorry):

    Antawn (Jamison)
    Antjonne
    Antone
    Antuwan
    Antwain
    Antwon
    Antowain (Smith)
    Antown
    Antwion
    Antwaan (Randle El)
    Antionne
    Auntoine
    Antwonne
    Antwain
    Antwun
    Antonne
    Antoan
    Antaine
    Antwan
    Antwuan
    Antwone (Fisher)
    Antwaune
    Antwoine
    Anthuan
    Antwane
    Antyone
    Antuan
    Antxon
    Antione
    Antwaun
    Antion
    Antwaine

  • Kris McInnis | October 16, 2007 at 7:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”157414″][quote comment=”157391″]University of Louisville is getting new B-Ball uniforms. Much improved.

    Old vs. New.[/quote]

    When I clicked on the new link I was expecting to see something significantly better, but wow, they are still really bad.

    That super low neckline is, um, not flattering.[/quote]

    The upper body on #22 looks like it belongs on a Transformer toy that happens to have ‘Louisville’ written across its stomach.

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 16, 2007 at 7:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”157435″][quote comment=”157191″][quote comment=”157159″]Two brothers, who were NFL kickers from back in the 70’s, early 80’s, Steve-Mike-Mayer and Nick-Mike-Mayer, I believe wore their full names on their jerseys.

    I’m searching for a photo of either…..[/quote]

    The brothers Steve and Nick shared the surname Mike-Mayer (pronounced “Mick-a-my-er”). They, Giants/Redskins kicker Ali Haji-Shiekh, and Patriots special-teamer Tully Banta-Cain are, I believe, the only NFL players with hyphenated surnames. (The N.J. Generals of the USFL had a player named Kari Yli-Renko.)[/quote]
    There’s Karim Abdul-Jabbar of the Dolphins and the Gbaja-Biamila brothers. Hyphenated names aren’t rare at all in the NFL.[/quote]

    I was pretty sure there were more, but I couldn’t think of any besides Banta-Cain. Years ago I recall this as a trivia question, when the Mike-Mayers and Haji-Shiekh were the only ones.

  • Johnny O | October 16, 2007 at 7:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”157470″][quote comment=”157456″][quote comment=”157441″]The NHL is testing out heated blades. Sounds interesting. Apparently this will start a revolution. Personally, I think it will just end up with a lot of water on rinks.
    Link: http://sports.yahoo....

    I don’t play hokey so I don’t know the logistics of this… but why can’t hockey skates have the special “clamp-blade” the long track speed skaters use? If I remember correctly, when they introduced those clamp-blades, it literally revolutionized speed skating and people broke world records left and right. Is that technology not possible with hockey skates?[/quote]
    Shorter blades make it possible to turn around faster. It’s kind of a big deal in hockey. (Ever see a speed skater suddenly start skating backwards? I don’t think so.) But goalie skates are much longer than “player” skates, as they skate around much less and in a smaller area. Not to mention that goalies feel more stable and can execute more skate saves with the longer blades.
    In conclusion, hockey blades vary in length, but it would be stupid for them to be as long as a speed skater’s blade.[/quote]
    I guess my question wasn’t extending the length of the blade and make it clamp, but rather keep them the same length, but make them the clamp style. I’m just throwing it out there, so sorry if it’s a dumb question. Like I said, I don’t play hockey, and I can barely skate, so I’m pretty ignorant on the subject.

  • Peligro | October 16, 2007 at 7:36 pm |

    Hey clones, since we all know that the color purple sucks, and nobody will watch this years World Series, lets lay off the Rockies. Their NL pennant championship shirts just reminded me of sour grapes. Lets talk NHL sweaters, or football kits. By the way how do I link to that NFL Uniform Tourney? Thanx

  • S Bennett | October 16, 2007 at 7:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”157456″][quote comment=”157441″]The NHL is testing out heated blades. Sounds interesting. Apparently this will start a revolution. Personally, I think it will just end up with a lot of water on rinks.
    Link: http://sports.yahoo....

    I don’t play hokey so I don’t know the logistics of this… but why can’t hockey skates have the special “clamp-blade” the long track speed skaters use? If I remember correctly, when they introduced those clamp-blades, it literally revolutionized speed skating and people broke world records left and right. Is that technology not possible with hockey skates?[/quote]

    For starters, hockey players have to stop. Secondly, they need to turn tighter corners than speed skaters. Many players prefer a rockered blade, meaning less and less is on the ice. That allows more agility on your skates. Today’s poster Boy, Gordie Howe preferred a heavily-rockered blade, and he was more of a “through” vs. to” type of player.

    Finally, it all falls apart (literally) when you get hit with sticks, pucks and other blades. Contact makes clamp baldes less pragmatic.

  • John | October 16, 2007 at 7:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”157405″]Hmm, I don’t get what is going on here.[/quote]
    Word on the street is that the Vancouver Canucks home jerseys have the city name so that tourists will buy a Canucks jersey. Anyone know of a precedent?

  • Kyle | October 16, 2007 at 7:51 pm |

    The piping on Matt Hasselbeck’s sleeves appear to be rolled not missing.

  • S Bennett | October 16, 2007 at 8:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”157415″][quote comment=”157405″]Hmm, I don’t get what is going on here.[/quote]

    Just some moron figuring out when he might be on TV. Sadly, it’s pretty common – even more common than seeing people on their cell phones calling buddies when they have tix behind home plate.[/quote]

    Oops. Missed the full context of the pic. The Leafs and Habs were the only teams in Canada for decades. People used to gather ’round the radio and listen to Hockey Night in Canada as Foster Hewett told you everything that was happening on Maple Leaf Gardens ice. (Kinda like baseball and the Yankees being broadcast 9 out of 10 saturday afternoons = tons of Yanks fans outside NYC). ore often than not, it involved the Habs beating the Leafs and winning tons and tons of Stanley Cups.

    Subsequently, when Montreal or Toronto travel to the west, it’s almost like bonus home games for them, due to the “from away” fans who come out of the woodwork. Even if they’re not playing, the Leafs and Habs have big followings out west.

    But the guy’s still an attention-seeking moron.

    SB

  • S Bennett | October 16, 2007 at 8:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”157484″][quote comment=”157405″]Hmm, I don’t get what is going on here.[/quote]
    Word on the street is that the Vancouver Canucks home jerseys have the city name so that tourists will buy a Canucks jersey. Anyone know of a precedent?[/quote]

    Seems an odd marketing strategy to pander to a transient. potentially disinterested demographic instead of your legit fans. Then again, the NHL’s been turning its back on established fans for years now. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

    SB

  • T.J. | October 16, 2007 at 8:09 pm |

    The Alomar brothers both had “Alomar” on their jerseys when they were both playing for the Indians in the late 90’s.

  • derek | October 16, 2007 at 8:32 pm |

    Is this not one of the best jerseys you have ever seen?
    http://www.rivercity...

  • S Bennett | October 16, 2007 at 9:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”157491″]Is this not one of the best jerseys you have ever seen?
    http://www.rivercity...

    Tell me, would it look totally cool or totally stupid if the Aces recreated the state flag on the front of their shirts using spades (Y’know, ace of spades) instead of stars? Just did this up in 10 mins. Maybe the spades could be mved around a bit, or resized. Maybe it works betters a shoulder patch. Maybe it’s just crap. Throwin’ out an idea, that’s all.

  • Mike D. | October 16, 2007 at 9:21 pm |

    In soccer, FNOB of jerseys are common.

    Benfica and Portugal internationals Rui Costa and Nuno Gomes (whose real name is Nuno Ribeiro, the “Gomes” part of his name is a nickname).

  • Matt | October 16, 2007 at 9:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”157491″]Is this not one of the best jerseys you have ever seen?
    http://www.rivercity...

    those are marvelous….a work of art, really.

  • Richard from MA | October 16, 2007 at 10:35 pm |

    Manny’s outfit is kind of baggy, isn’t it?

  • Scott | October 16, 2007 at 11:31 pm |

    RE: World Series patches on sleeveless jerseys

    Before every White Sox home game, there’s a really well-done video montage featuring highlights and memorabilia. There’s a shot in there of Bobby Jenks’ sleeveless World Series jersey that was, obviously, never used.

    Video is here, and the jersey can be seen at the 1:24 mark. There are some great shots of vintage Sox jerseys. Definitely recommended viewing for anyone who “gets it”.

  • Bobby T | October 16, 2007 at 11:55 pm |

    OK, am I the only idiot that thought for a second when I looked at that last Cleveland Indians home uniform “Hey this guy’s pretty funny, he designed a beanie for those early-April games at Jacobs Field…”?

  • Johnny O | October 17, 2007 at 12:14 am |

    [quote comment=”157507″][quote comment=”157491″]Is this not one of the best jerseys you have ever seen?
    http://www.rivercity...

    those are marvelous….a work of art, really.[/quote]
    When he rounded the bases after his solo dong tonight, he looked ridiculous. Things were flopping and flying all over the place. His jersey is literally 3x too big for him. How can he be comfortable like that?

  • Hambone | October 17, 2007 at 12:34 am |

    Patrick Carpentier was at the Habs game tonight and was presented with a sweater by the teams owner who also happens to own the Nascar team Carpentier just signed with. Notice the number font is the same as the Gilette Dodge he will be racing.

  • Aaron G. Stock | October 17, 2007 at 12:39 am |

    How about 1st (or 1st and mid) initials for a player who never had a teammate with the same last name?

    If I become a Uni Watch member or ever have a custom jersey made, I will use my initials.

  • Mike Engle | October 17, 2007 at 12:58 am |

    [quote comment=”157530″]Patrick Carpentier was at the Habs game tonight and was presented with a sweater by the teams owner who also happens to own the Nascar team Carpentier just signed with. Notice the number font is the same as the Gilette Dodge he will be racing.[/quote]
    Yuck. You don’t f*ck with the Yankees pinstriped jersey, you don’t f*ck with the Celtics jersey (alternate excluded), and you certainly don’t f*ck with la sacre flannelle. I’m disgusted.

  • Savannah K | October 17, 2007 at 12:58 am |

    Excuse me if I missed it, but did University of Georgia dump those crappy grey pants for white ones? Looks like it in the sock photo in the ticker.

    I kind of like the reverse colored sock as well.

    They are silver not grey and no it is just the lighting. those pants are a change that then coach vince Dullie made, after they won the 1981 championship. it is now part of there tradition. they are sometimes refed to as the silver brtches

    Vince Dooley brought back the “Silver Britches” during the 1980 National Championship season. The Bulldogs wore silver pants up until the 1960’s. Dooley reinstated the tradition, he did not start it.

  • Wayne | October 17, 2007 at 1:52 am |

    I asked my girlfriend to clear up the Columbia rugby sock ribbing, and she said that the socks DO have two different ribbings, and the players do fold down the top part of the sock. The top ribbing in the photo is what the exterior of the top of the sock looks like, even when it’s not folded down.

    I’ll have to ask my girlfriend to send me more photos of the team’s complete uniforms.

  • Glenn | October 17, 2007 at 6:48 am |

    Paul, just curious, did you happen to see the post-game of the Rockies/Diamondbacks game 4? There was someone (not me) sporting a “Real Men Wear Purple” sign waving behind Frank Thomas, Cal Ripken, & Ron Darling. Made me think of you……your thoughts? ;)

  • Dootie Bub | October 17, 2007 at 8:55 am |

    John L. Williams, fullback for the Florida Gators, Seattle Seahawks, and Pittsburg Steelers in the 80s and 90s liked that middle “L” so much that he wore it on his jersey. I can’t verify it but rumor in his hometown was that he just made up the middle initial because he liked it.

  • DJ | October 17, 2007 at 9:15 am |

    Speaking of college football teams wearing unusual colored uniforms, has there been any word yet on Notre Dame wearing the green this season?

    This Saturday against USC, they will wear replicas of the green jerseys worn in the 1977 game. They say the pants will be replicas as well (a manila color, as opposed to the metallic gold of today), but I haven’t seen those yet.

  • bobwool | October 17, 2007 at 9:39 am |

    Link procedure for comments section:
    Method 1:
    ———
    1. When ready for the link, click the “Link” button above the comment box to start the link tag.
    2. Popup box fills in “http://”. Add or paste the rest of the URL in the popup box. Click “Ok”.
    3. Back in comment box, enter link text, or just paste URL again.
    4. Click the “/Link” button to close the link tag.

    Method 2: (easier)
    ———
    1. In comment box, enter/paste your URL or enter some shorter text (i.e. here).
    2. Highlight the text you want to be the link.
    3. Click the “Link” button above the comment box.
    4. In the popup box, enter/paste the URL. Click “Ok”.
    5. Now the text you highlighted has the link tags around it.

    Pretty standard controls for most bulletin boards and web forums.

  • Nick | October 17, 2007 at 12:19 pm |

    Didn’t Gus and Guy Williams from the late-70s Sonics have 1st/last names on the back too?

  • Steve C | October 17, 2007 at 1:25 pm |
  • Steve C | October 17, 2007 at 1:26 pm |

    Tom Brady

  • Steve C | October 17, 2007 at 1:27 pm |
  • Bill | October 17, 2007 at 8:10 pm |

    Did anyone notice who is in the main pic with Gordie Howe? Just the man who nearly ruined hockey in Pittsburgh, and who brought you “Sudden Death”, Howard Baldwin.

  • mark rogers | October 23, 2007 at 9:03 am |

    In the Orioles photo showing Frank Robinson’s extra stirrup, it appears that Paul Blair is wearing some sort of soccer studs rather than standard baseball spikes.

  • ray | October 30, 2007 at 1:20 pm |

    I recall Ron Jackson of the Angels wearing his full name inlike 82/83, when him and Reggie were on the teams together

  • Tom | October 30, 2007 at 1:32 pm |

    Here is a FNOB (First Name on Back) for baseball. Vida Blue. I believe he did have both names on there at some point, but I can’t find it. I also think Frank Viola did as well.

  • Joaquin | November 1, 2007 at 10:19 pm |

    I remember Ron Jackson wearing his full name when playing for the California Angels in the early 80s. The reason was that there was already another R. Jackson in the team, Reggie Jackson that is.

  • chris | November 30, 2007 at 2:27 am |

    Two more (no pictures):

    For the Ravens, Jonathan and Jeff Ogden wore their first names (“Jon” for Jonathan), and Musa and Mike Smith did, too.

  • Dave | December 22, 2007 at 6:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”157159″]Two brothers, who were NFL kickers from back in the 70’s, early 80’s, Steve-Mike-Mayer and Nick-Mike-Mayer, I believe wore their full names on their jerseys.

    I’m searching for a photo of either…..[/quote]
    their last name Is Mike-Mayer, they only wore their last name on their jerseys.

  • Dave | December 22, 2007 at 6:18 pm |

    Their last name is Mike-Mayer, they only wore their last name on their jerseys.[quote comment=”157159″]Two brothers, who were NFL kickers from back in the 70’s, early 80’s, Steve-Mike-Mayer and Nick-Mike-Mayer, I believe wore their full names on their jerseys.

    I’m searching for a photo of either…..[/quote]

  • Marc Rosenberg | February 24, 2008 at 12:11 pm |

    The Philadelphia Flyers had 2 sets of brothers with FNOB: Jim and Joe Watson in the 70’s, and Rich and Ron Sutter in the 80’s.

    RE: Other subjects in this string: Washington Redskins kick returner Herb Mul-Key had thehyphen added to prevent mispronunciation.