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Score One for Big Ben

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Sometimes the world just feels a little bit … off. You can’t put your finger on what it is, but you know something is wrong. It’s not something big — more like a tiny itch that keeps eluding you no matter where you scratch, like when you balance your checkbook and can’t figure out why the totals are off by three cents. You know things weren’t always this way, but you only have a faint memory of how they used to be, and now it’s gone and you can’t quite figure out what’s changed. And however minor this discrepancy may be, you know the universe will never quite come back into proper alignment until this small detail is addressed.

And that’s why, brothers and sisters, I’m so happy to announce that Ben Wallace will be allowed to wear his headband this season.

In case you’ve forgotten (and it was such a surreally idiotic episode that I wouldn’t blame you if you’d blotted it out of your mind), Wallace was benched early last season for violating Bulls coach Scott Skiles’s “no headbands” edict. So Big Ben spent the season looking like this and this, instead of sporting the more familiar forehead-accessorized look he’d cultivated in Detroit. It looked wrong, like it was some other guy instead of Wallace. Now, thankfully, this small rip in the cosmic fabric will be mended.

For those keeping score at home, the moron here is clearly Skiles (who, thankfully, never coached Wilt Chamberlain). I’ve yet to hear him present a rational, sensible explanation for banning a league-sanctioned and -branded accessory. And headbands aren’t just fashion statements — yo, Scott, they keep sweat out of your eyes.

Skiles made things worse yesterday by giving an all-time clunker of a quote: “We still have a no-headband rule. I just left it up to the guys who have been here if they wanted to make an exception for Ben.”

This is like the Mets insisting that they’re a really good team despite their last-season collapse, or Charlie Brown standing on the mound in the rain and shouting, “It’s just a little shower!” while everyone else scampers home and Snoopy goes by on a raft (plus it puts makes Skiles the rhetorical heir of Elaine Crispen; if you don’t remember who she was, look here). Dude, wake up: You ain’t got no no-headband rule no more, which is a good thing, since it was a bogus rule to begin with. Now sit down, shut up, and let Big Ben do his thing.

Raffle Results: The winner of the futuristic Royals jersey is Ryan Etgen. Big congrats to him, and thanks to all who entered.

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Membership News: As a big fan of horizontal stripes and the color green, I’ve rarely been as excited about a membership design request as I was when Michael Doucette requested Celtic FC the other day. Scott’s execution, as you can see, was dead-on. This and other new designs now on display in the membership card design gallery.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Lots of other NBA changes in the offing besides the return of Ben Wallace’s headband, including a new bronze trim for the Wizards (here’s a rear view), new throwbacks for the Warriors (which apparently mean no “The City” throwbacks this season — dang), the return of the “New Orleans” insignia for the Hornets (along with the new fleur-de-bee patch), and an anniversary patch for the Lakers. Plus, as already noted in yesterday’s Ticker, anniversary patches are also being worn by the Pistons and Heat. … We’ve talked before about how Red Sox uniforms sometimes have an upside-down 8. Turns out the Sox aren’t the only Boston-area team with this problem. The Patriots’ numeral 8 is supposed to have a smaller loop on top, but Randy Moss’s 8 was upside-down two nights ago. On the back, too. Great side-by-side comparison here of Moss’s and Donte Stallworth’s respective 8s. … Two days ago I ran this photo. Now Dave Bloomquist has come up with this (which dates back to 1956). Separated at birth? … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Bill Belechick’s sweatshirt says, “QUIPMENT” — the E is missing. … Breakdown of great soccer uniforms here. … The Blackhawks will be wearing a memorial patch for Bill Wirtz. Insert internet/web site joke here. … Not uni-related, but am I the only one mildly surprised that Rick Ankiel didn’t win the National League’s Comeback Player of the Year Award? Yeah, he only played about 25% of the season, but Stretch McCovey won Rookie of the Year in ’59 based on virtually the same number of ABs. ’Course, nobody ever accused Stretch of doing HGH, but still, have you ever seen a more impressive comeback than Ankiel’s? Dude completely reinvented himself, made it all the way back, and was a legitimate power threat during the latter part of the season. … Good spot by Matt Englander, who writes: “After the Red Sox acquired Curt Schilling in 2004, they made adjustments to the banner the top of their home page. Because they didn’t have an action pic of Schilling in a Sox uniform, they cropped his head (presumably from a shot from his D-Backs days) and put the head on another Boston pitcher’s body. If you look closely you can see that the edges of Curt’s neck are a dead giveaway that this was a crop job. That was 4 seasons ago…and you’re telling me they couldn’t pull out that placeholder and put an actual Sox action shot in there? Ridiculous.” … While researching something else, I stumbled across this. I don’t even wanna know. … Reprinted from last night’s comments: Great little item here about how the Seahawks have a staffer whose job is to keep track of Seneca Wallace’s green-dotted and dot-free helmets, depending on whether he’s playing QB or WR. … Also from last night: French law prohibits alcohol-related jersey sponsorship, so Glasgow Rangers FC, whose jersey usually looks like this, blacked out the Carling logo during yesterday’s match in France. … Roberto Luongo has a new mask. Lots of additional pics here, further info here, and a short video is here. … New mask for Chris Mason, too. Photos here, details here. … Rugby World Cup note from Eric Bangeman, who notes that the countries that have won the World Cup in the past (New Zealand, Australia, South Africa, and England) are wearing a sleeve patch that depicts the William Webb Ellis trophy, which is awarded to the winning nation.” … UConn’s new hoops unis will look like this (with thanks to Matt Edwards). … Life-altering photo here of the 1920 Dartmouth hockey team (with many, many thanks to Cullan Foote). … Very, very sad news out of Milwaukee, where Art’s Concertina Bar — site of a Uni Watch party last year, and my favorite tavern in America — has been sold. The new owner plans to only minor changes, but the biggest loss will be Art himself (shown at the Uni Watch party with Stephanie West), a national treasure who’s simply irreplaceable. Enjoy your retirement, Art — I’ll miss ya.

 

261 comments to Score One for Big Ben

  • Peter Wunsch | October 3, 2007 at 8:32 am |

    It is Roberto Luongo, not Robert

  • Richard | October 3, 2007 at 8:38 am |

    I have never understood the name Golden State Warriors. Yes, I know it’s California’s nickname, but here’s my question: there are four NBA teams in California, so why do the Warriors get to call themselves Golden State? I suppose it might be a homage to the Golden Gate Bridge, but considering that the Warriors play in Oakland (which is connected to San Francisco by the Bay Bridge, it still doesn’t make sense. How about Oakland Warriors or, better yet, Bay Area Warriors?

  • Pat | October 3, 2007 at 8:43 am |

    Oh man. Nothing made me happier this morning than seeing an NBA topic on UniWatch. That means it’s getting closer to the start of basketball season. Celtics 2:00 this Saturday!

    I like everything else Scott Skiles has done with the Bulls, very good coach, plays the kind of basketball I like to watch. But, the headband thing was stupid. Paul is right, as much as I can’t stand Wilt Chamberlain that yellow headband he wore with the Lakers, that had the thin strap going around the back was awesome. I’ve always wanted one of those but can’t ever find one.

    Also, they couldn’t have gotten Baron Davis to slip into a pair of basketball sneakers for this photo shoot?

  • Emeyel | October 3, 2007 at 8:46 am |

    Regarding the “fairy-boy” picture, it’s obviously a photoshop. Look here for more on that guy: http://www.pixyland....

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 3, 2007 at 8:51 am |

    Are those New Jersey Generals designs I see in the membership gallery?? OutSTANding!!

    However…

    The Generals used serif lettering in ’83 and ’84, although in ’85 some of the jerseys had sans-serif; in this picture you can actually see both (Stroth sans-serif, Walker serif). The Generals’ jersey was essentially the inverse (red for blue and vice-versa) of what the Giants had at the time, minus the sleeve stripes.

    Nonetheless, it’s great to see the USFL represented; the league had some awesome uniforms.

  • dgc | October 3, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    Uniwatch gets a small mention in today’s Washington Post in an article about the NFL captain patches: link

    And as a Nats’ fan, Dmitri totally deserved CPOY.

  • John O'Hare | October 3, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    I went to the “pixyland” site. I am now blind. I have gouged my own eyes out.

  • BCrisp | October 3, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    [quote comment=”151797″]Regarding the “fairy-boy” picture, it’s obviously a photoshop. Look here for more on that guy: http://www.pixyland....
    Wow, an amazing link to one of the more disturbing sites I’ve seen, and yet I still spent like 10 minutes on his site reading about him. It is not a photoshop.

  • BCrisp | October 3, 2007 at 8:56 am |

    link form Peter Pan site.

  • BCrisp | October 3, 2007 at 8:58 am |

    OK if the link doesn’t work this time, jsut go to his fasion page:
    http://www.pixyland....
    link

  • Paul Lukas | October 3, 2007 at 9:00 am |

    [quote comment=”151800″]Are those New Jersey Generals designs I see in the membership gallery??[/quote]

    No.

  • Dane | October 3, 2007 at 9:04 am |

    I loved the Columbus Cottonmouths jersey shown in yesterday’s ticker. I would have loved to get one for myself, but it looks like they no longer use that design. Here’s a picture from last season:

    http://manage.cotton...

  • Steppy | October 3, 2007 at 9:06 am |

    Looking at the Dartmouth hockey pic, I was reminded of the Simpsons episode where Homer flashed back to Ned Flanders wearing his ski outfit.

    “Feels like I’m wearing nothing at all…
    nothing at all…
    nothing at all…”

  • Eriq Jaffe | October 3, 2007 at 9:13 am |

    [quote comment=”151795″]I have never understood the name Golden State Warriors. Yes, I know it’s California’s nickname, but here’s my question: there are four NBA teams in California, so why do the Warriors get to call themselves Golden State? I suppose it might be a homage to the Golden Gate Bridge, but considering that the Warriors play in Oakland (which is connected to San Francisco by the Bay Bridge, it still doesn’t make sense. How about Oakland Warriors or, better yet, Bay Area Warriors?[/quote]
    They probably go by “Golden State” to get more of a regional thing going on – sure, there are 4 teams in California, but they’re the only one in the Bay Area. Remember, when they moved from Philadelphia, they were the San Francisco Warriors until they moved full-time to Oakland.

  • Dane | October 3, 2007 at 9:17 am |

    Following up on yesterday’s tobacco branding/Formula 1 discussion..
    Not exactly Uni related, but it reminds me of F1 in period where most teams were sponsored by tobacco companies, but not allowed to have tobacco liveries at most races. They came up with interesting substitutions.

    Jordan simply had a verson of the Benson & Hedges logo with letters removed to say “be on edge” in the same font. BAR had Look Left/Look Right in place of Lucky Strike. Renault changed Mild Seven to Team Spirit.

    I liked Jordan’s earlier replacement names better. When the car had a snake-motif paint scheme, the B&H became Bitten & Hisses for the non-tobacco races (UK, France). The next paint scheme lead to the Buzzin’ Hornets. BAR changes from Lucky Strike to Look Alike on their first car, in protest against the FIA for not allowing the team to run their two cars with two different paint schemes, each promoting a different BAT brand.

    Ferrari is the last team with tobacco sponsorship and has run different things in place of Marlboro logos. I think some of them must have been designed to give the illusion of the regular logo at 200mph.

    It’s interesting that Philip Morris pays about $150MM/yr for a sponsorship deal that only has the Marlboro name on the cars at 4 of the 17 races. That space just has some white lines for the other 13. PM claims that it is worth it, just because people already know the Marlboro logo is supposed to be there, whether it is actually there or not.

    I am actually surprised they have cleared out most of those sponsors, because they are adding Grand Prix races in places outside of the EU, and China allows the advertising and is supposed to have 1/3 of the world’s smokers.

    Tobacco advertising is allowed to appear on the car in most race venues, but the EU was very ominous but vague in saying what the punishment would be for those cars with tobacco logos appearing on TELEVISION in the EU. Still, the disappearance of big tobacco opened the door for new companies to get their name out there. I had never heard of Santander, SS United, or Etihad before, but the power of F1 advertising got the message across.

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 3, 2007 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment=”151807″][quote comment=”151800″]Are those New Jersey Generals designs I see in the membership gallery??[/quote]

    No.[/quote]

    D’OH!!

    Well, don’t I feel foolish…

    I’m at work now so I can’t access the gallery from here (flickr.com is blocked by the server), but I recall two on the last page, a #4 and (I think) a #91 that look an awful lot like the ’85 Generals: red background, white block numerals outlined in blue, wide-spaced lettering.

    What design is this?

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 3, 2007 at 9:22 am |

    Sorry, that’s a #2 (not 4) and #91.

  • drog | October 3, 2007 at 9:25 am |

    It’s Rangers FC…not the Glasgow Rangers (which make them sound like they should be playing in the Pacific Coast League)

  • Paul Lukas | October 3, 2007 at 9:29 am |

    [quote comment=”151816″][quote comment=”151807″][quote comment=”151800″]Are those New Jersey Generals designs I see in the membership gallery??[/quote]

    No.[/quote]

    D’OH!!

    Well, don’t I feel foolish…

    I’m at work now so I can’t access the gallery from here (flickr.com is blocked by the server), but I recall two on the last page, a #4 and (I think) a #91 that look an awful lot like the ’85 Generals: red background, white block numerals outlined in blue, wide-spaced lettering.

    What design is this?[/quote]

    They’re two different designs. This one is Grogan-era Patriots throwback, and this one is Bartkowski-era Falcons throwback.

    [quote comment=”151818″]It’s Rangers FC…not the Glasgow Rangers (which make them sound like they should be playing in the Pacific Coast League)[/quote]

    Have I mentioned lately that I don’t know jackshit about soccer? Fixing text now….

  • BWings | October 3, 2007 at 9:32 am |

    The Pixyland site should have included a reference to NSFA (Not Suitable For ANYONE). But, the picture is there on the “Fashions” page–not photoshopped.

    Now, let’s get back to baseball…or football…or headbands…or ANYTHING sports-related…whew

  • Kevin | October 3, 2007 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”151809″]I loved the Columbus Cottonmouths jersey shown in yesterday’s ticker. I would have loved to get one for myself, but it looks like they no longer use that design. Here’s a picture from last season:

    http://manage.cotton...

    The Cottonmouth jersey shown yesterday was at least from the 2003-2004 season when they were in the ECHL. You could probably check on ebay to see if any are being sold.

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 3, 2007 at 9:44 am |

    [quote comment=”151822″][quote comment=”151816″][quote comment=”151807″][quote comment=”151800″]Are those New Jersey Generals designs I see in the membership gallery??[/quote]

    No.[/quote]

    D’OH!!

    Well, don’t I feel foolish…

    I’m at work now so I can’t access the gallery from here (flickr.com is blocked by the server), but I recall two on the last page, a #4 and (I think) a #91 that look an awful lot like the ’85 Generals: red background, white block numerals outlined in blue, wide-spaced lettering.

    What design is this?[/quote]

    They’re two different designs. This one is Grogan-era Patriots throwback, and this one is Bartkowski-era Falcons throwback.

    [quote comment=”151818″]It’s Rangers FC…not the Glasgow Rangers (which make them sound like they should be playing in the Pacific Coast League)[/quote]

    Have I mentioned lately that I don’t know jackshit about soccer? Fixing text now….[/quote]

    Ohhhhhhh…….I see. My bad. Now that I think of it, the “squared” numeral 2 should have tipped me off.

  • Greg | October 3, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    Woah there Paul…

    You mention Celtic in your article but dismiss their rivals Rangers as simply Glasgow FC?

    That kind of sleight could get you killed in West Central Scotland

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 9:52 am |

    After watching Marshall U. play last night I’ve changed my tune on white helmets. Those looked really good. To my eye, if you do a white helmet, you really need wide helmet stripes that go all the way back and a non-matte finish. A big logo also helps just to break up the whiteness.

    The Good: Marshall, Miami Dolphins, NE Patriots (Patriot Pete SB XX design), NY Jets, Wisconsin

    The Bad: Tennessee Titans, Arizona Cardinals, Texas Longhorns, Louisville, Oklahoma State

  • Elena E | October 3, 2007 at 9:54 am |

    Not really surprised Ankiel didn’t get Comeback Player, since he only played 7 weeks. But it was an amazing comeback–if he keeps it up next year, I hope he will still be considered for the award. Dmitri did deserve it this year.

  • Pete | October 3, 2007 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”151831″]After watching Marshall U. play last night I’ve changed my tune on white helmets. Those looked really good. To my eye, if you do a white helmet, you really need wide helmet stripes that go all the way back and a non-matte finish. A big logo also helps just to break up the whiteness.

    The Good: Marshall, Miami Dolphins, NE Patriots (Patriot Pete SB XX design), NY Jets, Wisconsin

    The Bad: Tennessee Titans, Arizona Cardinals, Texas Longhorns, Louisville, Oklahoma State[/quote]

    So I assume you’re not on-board with Penn State?

    I would put the Colts on the good list, BTW, although I liked the larger horseshoe they sported during the Unitas years.

  • Pete | October 3, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    Re: UConn unis

    I like the symmetry of the design in the piping. Not a bad job by Nike.

    Now if only they’d get rid of the shoes that look like socks with flip-flop slides, they’d look great.

  • Chance | October 3, 2007 at 10:04 am |

    That is sad about Art’s, but he’s been trying to sell the place for years (on his website, no less!). He’s earned a break.

    Place oughta be a national landmark. Keep it just the way Art intended!

  • AJ Connelly | October 3, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    I’ve been beaten to the punch, Glasgow Rangers, good spot though. Also it’s not the first time they’ve had to do that. For years Rangers were sponsored by McEwans Lager and always had to cover it up for French Champions League ties. I can’t find any pics but they used to do a better job of covering the logo up before. Also at least once they played with Center Parcs on their jerseys (a leisure resort owned by the brewery) was in the mid 90’s I think.

  • Mardi | October 3, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    Marc Andre Fleury’s mask for the 2007-2008 season

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 10:14 am |

    [quote comment=”151837″][quote comment=”151831″]After watching Marshall U. play last night I’ve changed my tune on white helmets. Those looked really good. To my eye, if you do a white helmet, you really need wide helmet stripes that go all the way back and a non-matte finish. A big logo also helps just to break up the whiteness.

    The Good: Marshall, Miami Dolphins, NE Patriots (Patriot Pete SB XX design), NY Jets, Wisconsin

    The Bad: Tennessee Titans, Arizona Cardinals, Texas Longhorns, Louisville, Oklahoma State[/quote]

    So I assume you’re not on-board with Penn State?

    I would put the Colts on the good list, BTW, although I liked the larger horseshoe they sported during the Unitas years.[/quote]
    Penn St. is a whole separate category. They’re like the White Album or Spinal Tap’s ‘Smell the Glove’. I do wish they didn’t use those Great Gazoo helmets, however. They increase the acreage of stark whiteness.

  • john | October 3, 2007 at 10:20 am |

    If you read it in a book, you’d never believe it

  • Dwight | October 3, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”151838″]Re: UConn unis

    I like the symmetry of the design in the piping. Not a bad job by Nike.

    Now if only they’d get rid of the shoes that look like socks with flip-flop slides, they’d look great.[/quote]

    No no no no no Pete! That square that forms in the front is aweful. I agree about the shoes, and I like the idea of simplicity, but that square is bad.

  • Michael Doucette | October 3, 2007 at 10:31 am |

    Yessss, I was waiting, hoping my request for Celtic FC would be granted. Their kits simply are amazing. The kits they wore in the Champions League last year were interesting, and almost better in my eyes. They had an all white area as a back drop for the numbers that broke the green-white stripe combo. Interesting, but I liked it (especially the long sleeve version of one of my favorite soccer players in general, Shunsuke Nakamura, modeled here in this great video from last March against Manchester United

  • tape | October 3, 2007 at 10:31 am |

    Those new UConn unis are a joke.

  • Michael Doucette | October 3, 2007 at 10:32 am |

    whoops…here’s the link…

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | October 3, 2007 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”151843″]Marc Andre Fleury’s mask for the 2007-2008 season[/quote]

    Fortunately, it looks like Turco got the word and abandoned the gold… we will see tonight!

  • Brian from Short Island | October 3, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”151853″]Yessss, I was waiting, hoping my request for Celtic FC would be granted. Their kits simply are amazing. The kits they wore in the Champions League last year were interesting, and almost better in my eyes. They had an all white area as a back drop for the numbers that broke the green-white stripe combo. Interesting, but I liked it (especially the long sleeve version of one of my favorite soccer players in general, Shunsuke Nakamura, modeled here in this great video from last March against Manchester United [/quote]

    I’m still disappointed that Celtic uses shirt numbering at all, considering they traditionally only used numbers on their shorts.

  • Justin | October 3, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    Speaking of green in a uniform… these are my favorite from the A’s jerseys, from 1972

  • LT | October 3, 2007 at 10:39 am |

    My obvious Blackhawks joke, it’s the first time they have strung together three Ws since 1992.

  • ThresherK | October 3, 2007 at 10:58 am |

    The new UConn men’s basketball unis? I can’t get past that one thin stripe running under UCONN and above the number.

    As a lifelong Nutmegger, more a fan of the women’s team, I’d take their kit over the men’s; these swoops are preferred to those apron strings. And the wordmark and numbers are in the right place.

  • Marty Met | October 3, 2007 at 11:01 am |

    http://www.milwaukee...

    The Milwaukee Admirals unveiled their new RBK edge sweaters. Notice the “old school” Brewers logo

  • Pat | October 3, 2007 at 11:01 am |

    [quote]The Good: Marshall, Miami Dolphins, NE Patriots (Patriot Pete SB XX design), NY Jets, Wisconsin[/quote]

    It’s Pat Patriot. Not Patriot Pete. Just FYI.

    I love the Chargers new white helmet as well.

  • C.N. | October 3, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”151835″]Not really surprised Ankiel didn’t get Comeback Player, since he only played 7 weeks. But it was an amazing comeback–if he keeps it up next year, I hope he will still be considered for the award. Dmitri did deserve it this year.[/quote]

    I would have expected the Reds’ Josh Hamilton to win it, and I still think he probably would have if he hadn’t been injured for some significant late-season stretches. And, of course, if he didn’t play for Cincinnati. Put him in D.C. or New York and I think he wins it, easily. Just my opinion…

  • Chris | October 3, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    I like the new Wizards gear a lot.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 11:11 am |

    Never been to Milwaukee, and I had only heard of Art’s Concertina Bar on this site. It would seem though that the new proprietor should follow the lead of another Milwaukee establishment when this guy took over for this guy. Leave the name the same.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”151870″][quote]The Good: Marshall, Miami Dolphins, NE Patriots (Patriot Pete SB XX design), NY Jets, Wisconsin[/quote]

    It’s Pat Patriot. Not Patriot Pete. Just FYI.

    I love the Chargers new white helmet as well.[/quote]
    Sorry, I got him mixed up with Purdue Pete.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”151871″][quote comment=”151835″]Not really surprised Ankiel didn’t get Comeback Player, since he only played 7 weeks. But it was an amazing comeback–if he keeps it up next year, I hope he will still be considered for the award. Dmitri did deserve it this year.[/quote]

    I would have expected the Reds’ Josh Hamilton to win it, and I still think he probably would have if he hadn’t been injured for some significant late-season stretches. And, of course, if he didn’t play for Cincinnati. Put him in D.C. or New York and I think he wins it, easily. Just my opinion…[/quote]
    Josh Hamilton made his Major League debut this year. I don’t think a rookie can win Comeback Player of the Year.

  • Erich | October 3, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    Count me as a fan of the Fleur d Bee… Dunno why, I just think it’s a nice logo. I’ve been a fan of the Hornets however since day one…

  • Paul Lukas | October 3, 2007 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment=”151830″]Woah there Paul…

    You mention Celtic in your article but dismiss their rivals Rangers as simply Glasgow FC?

    That kind of sleight could get you killed in West Central Scotland[/quote]

    I’ve already changed the styling of that sentence once. Now I’ll change it again. Why can’t soccer teams just be “the [city name] [plural noun]” like everyone else?

  • Neil | October 3, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    Dwayne Roloson’s new Oilers mask:

    http://i13.photobuck...

    [quote comment=”151824″][quote comment=”151809″]I loved the Columbus Cottonmouths jersey shown in yesterday’s ticker. I would have loved to get one for myself, but it looks like they no longer use that design. Here’s a picture from last season:

    http://manage.cotton...

    The Cottonmouth jersey shown yesterday was at least from the 2003-2004 season when they were in the ECHL. You could probably check on ebay to see if any are being sold.[/quote]

    You can actually buy one from the site that first photo was linked from, Hockey Gallery Jerseys:

    http://www.hockeygal...

  • Matthew S. | October 3, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”151881″][quote comment=”151830″]Woah there Paul…

    You mention Celtic in your article but dismiss their rivals Rangers as simply Glasgow FC?

    That kind of sleight could get you killed in West Central Scotland[/quote]

    I’ve already changed the styling of that sentence once. Now I’ll change it again. Why can’t soccer teams just be “the [city name] [plural noun]” like everyone else?[/quote]

    Because multiple teams play in each city and many of their club names are derived from aspects of their origin: for example, Arsenal and West Ham United are both London clubs. Arsenal got it’s name because it started as a group of workers from the Royal Woolwich Arsenal playing pickup games in their off hours. West Ham got their nickname ‘The Hammers’ because the team originated from groups of workers at the shipyards along the Thames.

    That’s why you won’t see teams like the London_____ or the York_____.

  • Matthew S. | October 3, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    Paul, a map to illustrate my point of multiple teams in each city: http://www.footiemap...

  • Jason G. | October 3, 2007 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”151884″][quote comment=”151881″][quote comment=”151830″]Woah there Paul…

    You mention Celtic in your article but dismiss their rivals Rangers as simply Glasgow FC?

    That kind of sleight could get you killed in West Central Scotland[/quote]

    I’ve already changed the styling of that sentence once. Now I’ll change it again. Why can’t soccer teams just be “the [city name] [plural noun]” like everyone else?[/quote]

    Because multiple teams play in each city and many of their club names are derived from aspects of their origin: for example, Arsenal and West Ham United are both London clubs. Arsenal got it’s name because it started as a group of workers from the Royal Woolwich Arsenal playing pickup games in their off hours. West Ham got their nickname ‘The Hammers’ because the team originated from groups of workers at the shipyards along the Thames.

    That’s why you won’t see teams like the London_____ or the York_____.[/quote]

    This still doesn’t make sense because we have multi-team cities in the U.S. as well (i.e. Giants and Jets, Yankees and Mets, Cubs and White Sox). We also have nicknames that are derived from aspects of there origin (i.e. Green Bay Packers). Yet the city name/plural noun still works here in the states.

  • Adam | October 3, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”151884″]

    Because multiple teams play in each city and many of their club names are derived from aspects of their origin: for example, Arsenal and West Ham United are both London clubs. Arsenal got it’s name because it started as a group of workers from the Royal Woolwich Arsenal playing pickup games in their off hours. West Ham got their nickname ‘The Hammers’ because the team originated from groups of workers at the shipyards along the Thames.

    That’s why you won’t see teams like the London_____ or the York_____.[/quote]

    That’s not really a good reason, though. Multiple teams play the same sport in some American cities and still use the city name. And the second part might be true, but it still doesn’t explain WHY they don’t use the city name. The London Arsenals or the London Hammers would represent their origins just as well.

    Now, I’m not saying either way is better, or that anybody should change, so don’t shoot me, I’m just saying that the explanation given doesn’t work for me. It’s probably just a case of things evolving differently in different countries, like how soccer normally has promotion between leagues and American sports don’t.

  • Perry | October 3, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”151853″]Yessss, I was waiting, hoping my request for Celtic FC would be granted. Their kits simply are amazing. The kits they wore in the Champions League last year were interesting, and almost better in my eyes. They had an all white area as a back drop for the numbers that broke the green-white stripe combo. Interesting, but I liked it (especially the long sleeve version of one of my favorite soccer players in general, Shunsuke Nakamura, modeled here in this great video from last March against Manchester United [/quote]

    I think the Champions League must require a solid background for the numbers. I noticed in the last Barcelona CL game their shirts had solid blue backs, rather than their usual red/blue stripes.

  • Matthew S. | October 3, 2007 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”151890″][quote comment=”151884″][quote comment=”151881″][quote comment=”151830″]Woah there Paul…

    You mention Celtic in your article but dismiss their rivals Rangers as simply Glasgow FC?

    That kind of sleight could get you killed in West Central Scotland[/quote]

    I’ve already changed the styling of that sentence once. Now I’ll change it again. Why can’t soccer teams just be “the [city name] [plural noun]” like everyone else?[/quote]

    Because multiple teams play in each city and many of their club names are derived from aspects of their origin: for example, Arsenal and West Ham United are both London clubs. Arsenal got it’s name because it started as a group of workers from the Royal Woolwich Arsenal playing pickup games in their off hours. West Ham got their nickname ‘The Hammers’ because the team originated from groups of workers at the shipyards along the Thames.

    That’s why you won’t see teams like the London_____ or the York_____.[/quote]

    This still doesn’t make sense because we have multi-team cities in the U.S. as well (i.e. Giants and Jets, Yankees and Mets, Cubs and White Sox). We also have nicknames that are derived from aspects of there origin (i.e. Green Bay Packers). Yet the city name/plural noun still works here in the states.[/quote]

    That’s true, but look, London itself has 23 soccer teams of various levels…..having the New York Mets and the New York Yankees, is one thing, but 23 teams called the London______ would be a ridiculous.

  • Roger Faso | October 3, 2007 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”151795″]I have never understood the name Golden State Warriors. Yes, I know it’s California’s nickname, but here’s my question: there are four NBA teams in California, so why do the Warriors get to call themselves Golden State? I suppose it might be a homage to the Golden Gate Bridge, but considering that the Warriors play in Oakland (which is connected to San Francisco by the Bay Bridge, it still doesn’t make sense. How about Oakland Warriors or, better yet, Bay Area Warriors?[/quote]

    Welcome to our confusion.

    The old owner loved San Francisco, very much. He got a better deal to move to Oakland, but didn’t want to commit to renaming it after one city. Afterall, he didn’t want to alienate a whole market. So, he named it Golden State. Little known fact … they legitimized the naming by playing 6 “home” games in San Diego during their first year as the Golden State Warriors.

    Currently, they keep the name because it’s important to the brand’s identity. I’m alright with it, because it’s the one team that the whole bay can be a fan of.

  • Andrew | October 3, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”151891″][quote comment=”151884″]

    Because multiple teams play in each city and many of their club names are derived from aspects of their origin: for example, Arsenal and West Ham United are both London clubs. Arsenal got it’s name because it started as a group of workers from the Royal Woolwich Arsenal playing pickup games in their off hours. West Ham got their nickname ‘The Hammers’ because the team originated from groups of workers at the shipyards along the Thames.

    That’s why you won’t see teams like the London_____ or the York_____.[/quote]

    That’s not really a good reason, though. Multiple teams play the same sport in some American cities and still use the city name. And the second part might be true, but it still doesn’t explain WHY they don’t use the city name. The London Arsenals or the London Hammers would represent their origins just as well.

    Now, I’m not saying either way is better, or that anybody should change, so don’t shoot me, I’m just saying that the explanation given doesn’t work for me. It’s probably just a case of things evolving differently in different countries, like how soccer normally has promotion between leagues and American sports don’t.[/quote]

    Spot on. Europeans make fun of American sports team names, and Americans make fun of European sports team names. To each their own, right?

    But, just to stir the pot, Rangers FC makes at least as much sense as Utah Jazz. Also, I would hate, *hate* to see my beloved team called the Dumfries Queen of the South, or Queens of the South, or Queen of the Souths, or what have you. Also, the Dumfries Doon-Hamers sounds silly.

  • Michael Doucette | October 3, 2007 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”151897″]24 teams, good call Stuby. I accidentally said 23.[/quote]

    You guys beat me to it. Too many teams for the city name, plural noun method.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | October 3, 2007 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”151869″]http://www.milwaukee...

    The Milwaukee Admirals unveiled their new RBK edge sweaters. Notice the “old school” Brewers logo[/quote]

    AACK! Love the logo – hate the sweaters

  • Adam | October 3, 2007 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”151899″][quote comment=”151897″]24 teams, good call Stuby. I accidentally said 23.[/quote]

    You guys beat me to it. Too many teams for the city name, plural noun method.[/quote]

    They could always be named after sections of the city or something. I could be wrong, but it just seems hard for me to believe that an entire naming system came about just because there were too many teams in London.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | October 3, 2007 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”151900″][quote comment=”151869″]http://www.milwaukee...

    The Milwaukee Admirals unveiled their new RBK edge sweaters. Notice the “old school” Brewers logo[/quote]

    AACK! Love the logo – hate the sweaters[/quote]

    …and by that I mean the Admirals logo. The Brew Crew logo is a nice touch, too

  • Matthew S. | October 3, 2007 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”151901″][quote comment=”151899″][quote comment=”151897″]24 teams, good call Stuby. I accidentally said 23.[/quote]

    You guys beat me to it. Too many teams for the city name, plural noun method.[/quote]

    They could always be named after sections of the city or something. I could be wrong, but it just seems hard for me to believe that an entire naming system came about just because there were too many teams in London.[/quote]

    I wasn’t saying that was the reason. Many teams are in fact named after sections of cities: West Ham United plays in, you guessed it, the West Ham section of London. Everton originated in the Everton section of Liverpool.

  • Jason G. | October 3, 2007 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”151869″]http://www.milwaukee...

    The Milwaukee Admirals unveiled their new RBK edge sweaters. Notice the “old school” Brewers logo[/quote]

    Why would they put a baseball logo on a hockey jersey?

  • Dan King | October 3, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”151896″][quote comment=”151890″][quote comment=”151884″][quote comment=”151881″][quote comment=”151830″]Woah there Paul…

    You mention Celtic in your article but dismiss their rivals Rangers as simply Glasgow FC?

    That kind of sleight could get you killed in West Central Scotland[/quote]

    I’ve already changed the styling of that sentence once. Now I’ll change it again. Why can’t soccer teams just be “the [city name] [plural noun]” like everyone else?[/quote]

    Because multiple teams play in each city and many of their club names are derived from aspects of their origin: for example, Arsenal and West Ham United are both London clubs. Arsenal got it’s name because it started as a group of workers from the Royal Woolwich Arsenal playing pickup games in their off hours. West Ham got their nickname ‘The Hammers’ because the team originated from groups of workers at the shipyards along the Thames.

    That’s why you won’t see teams like the London_____ or the York_____.[/quote]

    This still doesn’t make sense because we have multi-team cities in the U.S. as well (i.e. Giants and Jets, Yankees and Mets, Cubs and White Sox). We also have nicknames that are derived from aspects of there origin (i.e. Green Bay Packers). Yet the city name/plural noun still works here in the states.[/quote]
    Yes, but as the map show, there are 24 teams in London.[/quote]
    also, most of the moscow teams have the city name in them. instead of being London ________ most teams are named after the area of the city they’re in, like Fulham, Chelsea, Queens Park Rangers, etc. Or as before mentioned they were named after a place where the first players worked or the athletic club where they started. personally, i like it.

    ps. being a footie fan myself, i’ve heard rangers fc being called glasgow rangers fc, and glasgow celtic, mostly for international tournaments.

  • Philly Bill | October 3, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”151902″][quote comment=”151900″][quote comment=”151869″]http://www.milwaukee...

    The Milwaukee Admirals unveiled their new RBK edge sweaters. Notice the “old school” Brewers logo[/quote]

    AACK! Love the logo – hate the sweaters[/quote]

    …and by that I mean the Admirals logo. The Brew Crew logo is a nice touch, too[/quote]

    The Brewers are the official sponsor of the Admirals, as has been mentioned here. It’s a striking contrast between the logos, both in terms of color and quality in my opinion. Yecch.

    [quote comment=”151874″]Never been to Milwaukee, and I had only heard of Art’s Concertina Bar on this site. It would seem though that the new proprietor should follow the lead of another Milwaukee establishment when this guy took over for this guy. Leave the name the same.[/quote]

    Ah, that is rich. Post of the day!

    BTW, I’m on board with Dmitri as NL CPOY. I mean, he was their best hitter all season and their only All-Star representative. And for the statistically inclined, his presence decreased D.C.-area exclamations of “what the hell is wrong with Nick Johnson?” by a whopping 72%.

  • Perry | October 3, 2007 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”151891″][quote comment=”151884″]

    Because multiple teams play in each city and many of their club names are derived from aspects of their origin: for example, Arsenal and West Ham United are both London clubs. Arsenal got it’s name because it started as a group of workers from the Royal Woolwich Arsenal playing pickup games in their off hours. West Ham got their nickname ‘The Hammers’ because the team originated from groups of workers at the shipyards along the Thames.

    That’s why you won’t see teams like the London_____ or the York_____.[/quote]

    That’s not really a good reason, though. Multiple teams play the same sport in some American cities and still use the city name. And the second part might be true, but it still doesn’t explain WHY they don’t use the city name. The London Arsenals or the London Hammers would represent their origins just as well.

    Now, I’m not saying either way is better, or that anybody should change, so don’t shoot me, I’m just saying that the explanation given doesn’t work for me. It’s probably just a case of things evolving differently in different countries, like how soccer normally has promotion between leagues and American sports don’t.[/quote]

    Click on London the “footie map” that was posted and you get *23* professional clubs. Should they ALL be the London Whatevers? London has 5 clubs just in the Premier League (Tottenham Hotspur, Arsenal, Chelsea, Fulham, West Ham), 6 last year before Charlton were relegated.

    Most teams do have informal nicknames (Arsenal = Gunners, Chelsea = Blues, Fulham = Cottagers, Tottenham = Spurs, Liverpool = Reds, Newcastle United = Magpies, etc.), but they’re just that, informal, pretty much like baseball in the US 100 years ago.

  • Adam | October 3, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”151907″][quote comment=”151869″]http://www.milwaukee...

    The Milwaukee Admirals unveiled their new RBK edge sweaters. Notice the “old school” Brewers logo[/quote]

    Why would they put a baseball logo on a hockey jersey?[/quote]

    The Brewers sponser them.

  • Joey Guns | October 3, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    Somebody needs to tell this guy that he needs to update that NFL logo tattoo slightly next year….

    http://i.cnn.net/si/...

  • Michael Doucette | October 3, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”151901″][quote comment=”151899″][quote comment=”151897″]24 teams, good call Stuby. I accidentally said 23.[/quote]

    You guys beat me to it. Too many teams for the city name, plural noun method.[/quote]

    They could always be named after sections of the city or something. I could be wrong, but it just seems hard for me to believe that an entire naming system came about just because there were too many teams in London.[/quote]

    That really isn’t the reason. Alot of these clubs started out as just that, a club. And alot of the time they took the name of the organization from which the members of these clubs worked for/lived in/played around etc. So thats why its ________ F.C. (football club)…

    And alot of them are clubs in how we think of clubs. Most of them have youth teams, and even some of them field teams in other sports. So its just two clubs playing each other in a club league.

  • Stevo | October 3, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    A few observations from that bastion of uni-fodder, last night’s high school volleyball match in my hometown:

    Only in volleyball can you have a matchup of 2 teams wearing the exact same color. (note, the player in white is her team’s libero)

    I forgot to take a close-up shot, but the visiting team (far side in above pic) was rocking some old school v-neck collars, like what you saw girls basketball players wearing back in the 50’s.

    Non-uni related, but logo-related: for years my hometown school has used a mean-looking bluejay, complete with cleats, as the primary logo. This version of the bird is used on the end line padding and scorer’s table. A few years ago they repainted the gym floor, placing the bird at midcourt, without cleats. I guess even a painted-on bluejay needs to have indoor shoes.

  • Duckstyle | October 3, 2007 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”151901″][quote comment=”151899″][quote comment=”151897″]24 teams, good call Stuby. I accidentally said 23.[/quote]

    You guys beat me to it. Too many teams for the city name, plural noun method.[/quote]

    They could always be named after sections of the city or something. I could be wrong, but it just seems hard for me to believe that an entire naming system came about just because there were too many teams in London.[/quote]

    It should be hard to believe because it’s not true, nor is it what the man was trying to say. They’re just simply pointing out that it would be crazy to have 24 different teams named the London ____’s. That was one example of why it might not work, not the whole reason behind it. The main reason its that way is that most teams started as simple footbal clubs, not professional teams, but they slowly evolved into professional teams and the names stayed the same out of respect for tradition. They started out the Rangers Fottbal Club, and the remain the Rangers football club. It’s different than what we’re used to, but it works jus the same. And I doubt anyone here can seriously say that the Rangers Football Club sounds sillier than the Los Angles Angels of Anahiem….

  • Casey | October 3, 2007 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”151810″]Looking at the Dartmouth hockey pic, I was reminded of the Simpsons episode where Homer flashed back to Ned Flanders wearing his ski outfit.

    “Feels like I’m wearing nothing at all…
    nothing at all…
    nothing at all…”[/quote]

    Stupid sexy Flanders!

  • Michael Doucette | October 3, 2007 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”151915″]A few observations from that bastion of uni-fodder, last night’s high school volleyball match in my hometown:

    Only in volleyball can you have a matchup of 2 teams wearing the exact same color. (note, the player in white is her team’s libero)

    I forgot to take a close-up shot, but the visiting team (far side in above pic) was rocking some old school v-neck collars, like what you saw girls basketball players wearing back in the 50’s.

    Non-uni related, but logo-related: for years my hometown school has used a mean-looking bluejay, complete with cleats, as the primary logo. This version of the bird is used on the end line padding and scorer’s table. A few years ago they repainted the gym floor, placing the bird at midcourt, without cleats. I guess even a painted-on bluejay needs to have indoor shoes.[/quote]

    I’m really liking that Blue Jay logo, very old school look to it. I like the cleats better, but both will do.

  • scott | October 3, 2007 at 12:26 pm |

    This guy should probably stick to what he knows (ballparks) after calling the new Rays uniforms an improvement over the current design:

    http://www.ballparkd...

    What’s he smoking?

  • Andy from KC | October 3, 2007 at 12:27 pm |

    The winner of the futuristic Royals jersey is Ryan Etgen. Big congrats to him, and thanks to all who entered.

    I have never been so happy to not win a piece of Royals shit memorabilia in my life.

  • Andy from KC | October 3, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    OK, the word “shit” was supposed to have been stricken through. Guess the “strikethru” tag really doesn’t work.

  • John in Athens | October 3, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    And speaking of the greatest football team on the planet…

    The Glasgow Rangers blacked out their sponsor’s name on the front of their jerseys for their Champions League game against Lyon in which they won 3-0.

    As you scroll down, you can see the Carling logo on the replica strips worn by the massive support who travelled over to France to support the Gers.

    Scroll a little further and you might get a different definition of massive support.

  • jere | October 3, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    Michael Doucette: Did you ever live in Connecticut? I know someone with your name….

  • John in Athens | October 3, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    Rangers photos link.

  • Alan #44 | October 3, 2007 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”151881″][quote comment=”151830″]Woah there Paul…

    You mention Celtic in your article but dismiss their rivals Rangers as simply Glasgow FC?

    That kind of sleight could get you killed in West Central Scotland[/quote]

    I’ve already changed the styling of that sentence once. Now I’ll change it again. Why can’t soccer teams just be “the [city name] [plural noun]” like everyone else?[/quote]

    because soccer sucks and nobody in the US gives a shit about it!

  • dm00n | October 3, 2007 at 12:34 pm |

    That’s true, but look, London itself has 23 soccer teams of various levels…..having the New York Mets and the New York Yankees, is one thing, but 23 teams called the London______ would be a ridiculous.

    We’ve had teams like the Brooklyn Dodgers named after a part of a large city. It would be possible with London.

    What I don’t understand is that there really isn’t a naming convention (at least by looking at that map). Forest Green Rovers, Plymouth Argyle, Kidderminster Harriers, Milton Keynes Dons, etc, seem to use the “American style (for the sake of this conversation)” name convention.

    What is the purpose or meaning of calling a team United? There seem to be a lot of them, is this some kind of indication that there was once a merger of smaller clubs?

    Honestly, I sort of like the mish-mash of name styles. It is becoming annoying to me how much the major US sports are getting homogenized into a strict product. Coaches must wear branded apparel, teams are no longer able to use their own suppliers for uniforms and equipment, they have templated websites (I am a Red Wings fan, but go Rangers!), etc. Uniqueness and local tradition adds a lot to the experience, especially when making the connection between a fanbase and a team.

  • Matt | October 3, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”151912″][quote comment=”151907″][quote comment=”151869″]http://www.milwaukee...

    The Milwaukee Admirals unveiled their new RBK edge sweaters. Notice the “old school” Brewers logo[/quote]

    Why would they put a baseball logo on a hockey jersey?[/quote]

    The Brewers sponser them.[/quote]

    Well and taking that a step further – a lot of their higher ups either used to work for the Brewers or are currently on their board of directors…including my former boss with the Brewers (and the Admirals’ current president) Jon Greenberg. Some of the greatest people you’ll ever hope to meet in a professional sports front office.

  • Matthew S. | October 3, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”151927″]

    That’s true, but look, London itself has 23 soccer teams of various levels…..having the New York Mets and the New York Yankees, is one thing, but 23 teams called the London______ would be a ridiculous.

    We’ve had teams like the Brooklyn Dodgers named after a part of a large city. It would be possible with London.

    What I don’t understand is that there really isn’t a naming convention (at least by looking at that map). Forest Green Rovers, Plymouth Argyle, Kidderminster Harriers, Milton Keynes Dons, etc, seem to use the “American style (for the sake of this conversation)” name convention.

    What is the purpose or meaning of calling a team United? There seem to be a lot of them, is this some kind of indication that there was once a merger of smaller clubs?

    Honestly, I sort of like the mish-mash of name styles. It is becoming annoying to me how much the major US sports are getting homogenized into a strict product. Coaches must wear branded apparel, teams are no longer able to use their own suppliers for uniforms and equipment, they have templated websites (I am a Red Wings fan, but go Rangers!), etc. Uniqueness and local tradition adds a lot to the experience, especially when making the connection between a fanbase and a team.[/quote]

    Alan #44 thanks for your opinion, keep it to yourself it if isn’t constructive or adding to the conversation. I’m in the U.S. and I care about about soccer, so your theory falls by the wayside.

    dm00n, teams that have ‘United’ in the name are usually teams that merged with another club somewhere in their history.

    Milton Keynes Dons is actually an interesting team. They used to be Wimbledon, but the team went bankrupt and sold off most of their assets. The new owners wanted a break with the past so they renamed the team. Here’s the history on that: http://www.historica...

  • Chris in Cowtown | October 3, 2007 at 12:41 pm |

    I was watching ESPN Classic CANADA last night and they were showing an old CFL match from 1989 between the Ottawa Roughriders or is it Rough Riders and the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. Damon Allen (Marcus Allen’s brother who is still playing in the CFL for Toronto) was the QB for Ottawa… but interestingly for me was that fact that everyone on Ottawa had their first initial and last name on the backs of their uniforms… has anyone seen this done where the whole team gets a first initial?

  • dm00n | October 3, 2007 at 12:42 pm |

    Somewhere I have my grandfather’s Rangers Supporters Club card, I should scan it. I think it is from the 40s or 50s, although he came to the US in 1923, so it could be earlier.

  • Joey Guns | October 3, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    The LPGA unveiled a new logo today:

    http://www.lpga.com/...

  • Ian K | October 3, 2007 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”151913″]Somebody needs to tell this guy that he needs to update that NFL logo tattoo slightly next year….

    http://i.cnn.net/si/...

    Is that a Dallas Cowboys star logo above the NFL shield? That seems out of place.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”151936″]The LPGA unveiled a new logo today:

    http://www.lpga.com/...
    I had to go and search for what the old logo looked like. I couldn’t remember.

  • Graf Zeppelin | October 3, 2007 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”151918″][quote comment=”151810″]Looking at the Dartmouth hockey pic, I was reminded of the Simpsons episode where Homer flashed back to Ned Flanders wearing his ski outfit.

    “Feels like I’m wearing nothing at all…
    nothing at all…
    nothing at all…”[/quote]

    Stupid sexy Flanders![/quote]

    Must wash eyes! Must wash eyes!

  • Rick White | October 3, 2007 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”151927″]

    That’s true, but look, London itself has 23 soccer teams of various levels…..having the New York Mets and the New York Yankees, is one thing, but 23 teams called the London______ would be a ridiculous.

    We’ve had teams like the Brooklyn Dodgers named after a part of a large city. It would be possible with London. …[/quote]

    Bronx Yankees
    Brooklyn Dodgers
    Queens Mets

  • Joey Guns | October 3, 2007 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”151938″][quote comment=”151936″]The LPGA unveiled a new logo today:

    http://www.lpga.com/...
    I had to go and search for what the old logo looked like. I couldn’t remember.[/quote]

    I couldn’t remember either. Something tells me we’re not going to have a “The new LPGA logo was modeled after this female golfer” conversation today. haha

  • MLB2PDX | October 3, 2007 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”151918″][quote comment=”151810″]Looking at the Dartmouth hockey pic, I was reminded of the Simpsons episode where Homer flashed back to Ned Flanders wearing his ski outfit.

    “Feels like I’m wearing nothing at all…
    nothing at all…
    nothing at all…”[/quote]

    Stupid sexy Flanders![/quote]

    Hehheh, sweet. Got my morning laugh in.

    [quote comment=”151926″][quote comment=”151881″][quote comment=”151830”]Woah there Paul…

    You mention Celtic in your article but dismiss their rivals Rangers as simply Glasgow FC?

    That kind of sleight could get you killed in West Central Scotland[/quote]

    I’ve already changed the styling of that sentence once. Now I’ll change it again. Why can’t soccer teams just be “the [city name] [plural noun]” like everyone else?[/quote]

    because soccer sucks and nobody in the US gives a shit about it![/quote]

    Someone listens to Jim Rome too much. :-) Anyway, I really like the soccer naming conventions used around the world. There’s so much history and meaning behind them. As someone mentioned earlier about the Jazz, most American sports names make no sense. They’re usually more just a matter of trying to be fierce, etc. (Lions, Tigers, etc.) The names that do have regional meaning, all for them. Now all of that being said, I find it very annoying that we have a “Real”, “United”, etc. in MLS. Next will probably be “Inter Philadelphia”. Names like those make the ‘average’ American care even less about soccer. “We” want to be unique, not follow trends and history of something half way around the world. But we still should understand the meaning and importance of them.

  • todd krevanchi | October 3, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    maybe you guys can help me.
    im in the process of putting together a cd of the greatest audio in sports.

    press conference classics:
    lee elia
    mike gundy
    brett myers
    AI on practice

    interview or performance classics:
    carl lewis singing the national anthem

    i have those so far…
    perhaps you guys remember some that fit these categories, or one that would be in another category.

    please send to
    sportsaudiocd@yahoo.com
    id love your input…

    i know that once people see what is being submitted, it may spark a memory, so i will post an update every so often

    thanks…

  • stan aka the took | October 3, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    We have Celtic FC and the Huns in one entry… small world.

  • todd krevanchi | October 3, 2007 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”151938″][quote comment=”151936″]The LPGA unveiled a new logo today:

    http://www.lpga.com/...
    I had to go and search for what the old logo looked like. I couldn’t remember.[/quote]

    yeah that old one looked nothing like gulbis or creamer… now gulbis… thats a logo!

  • hott rodd | October 3, 2007 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”151943″][quote comment=”151938″][quote comment=”151936″]The LPGA unveiled a new logo today:

    http://www.lpga.com/...
    I had to go and search for what the old logo looked like. I couldn’t remember.[/quote]

    I couldn’t remember either.

    Something tells me we’re not going to have a “The new LPGA logo was modeled after this female golfer” conversation today. haha[/quote]

    Its quite obviously Michelle Wie…
    (tongue planted firmly in cheek)

  • Matt D. | October 3, 2007 at 1:14 pm |

    funny how of the 8 MLB teams in the playoffs, looking at the logos 7 of them have red in them. Thats why I’m cheering for the Rockies.

  • J Bob | October 3, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    Ray High School isn’t the only team I’ve seen with striped shoulder yokes. Pine Bluff High School in Arkansas has had them for as long as I can remember. Their mascot is the Zebras.

    Unfortunately, here in Arkansas we sometimes have to live through some designs that are just horrid on the eyes. Hall High in Little Rock sports some orange unis that will make your eyes bleed.

    And in the logo department, Siloam Springs HS was contacted by Warner Bros. this spring and told to remove their S logo. Article here.

  • MLB2PDX | October 3, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”151948″]maybe you guys can help me.
    im in the process of putting together a cd of the greatest audio in sports.

    press conference classics:
    lee elia
    mike gundy
    brett myers
    AI on practice

    interview or performance classics:
    carl lewis singing the national anthem

    i have those so far…
    perhaps you guys remember some that fit these categories, or one that would be in another category.

    please send to
    sportsaudiocd@yahoo.com
    id love your input…

    i know that once people see what is being submitted, it may spark a memory, so i will post an update every so often

    thanks…[/quote]

    “It’s Division 1 football!!” Dan Hawkins

  • Michael Doucette | October 3, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”151924″]Michael Doucette: Did you ever live in Connecticut? I know someone with your name….[/quote]

    Nope, I’m a good old New York City Suburb product. I did have family in Connecticut, but no one of this last name.

  • Pete | October 3, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”151920″]This guy should probably stick to what he knows (ballparks) after calling the new Rays uniforms an improvement over the current design:

    http://www.ballparkd...

    What’s he smoking?[/quote]

    Of COURSE he’s on something, because he’s disagreed with the pronouncement of Paul the almighty that the Rays’ current look is so great!

    Look, I think the Rays’ new look isn’t anything special – another MLB team in blue, yippee – but I understand the design considerations they’re focused on, and I have no problem whatsoever if someone prefers the green unis or the blue ones.

    Why has this board become populated with so many sanctimonious snobs who assume anyone who disagrees with them must be drunk, high, blind, or stupid? Most uniforms…MOST…will have its fans and its detractors. There will be a handful on which the opinions are universally agreed, both good and bad.

    Is this so hard to understand?

    How about saying, “Here’s someone who likes the new Rays uni,” with your link? Why is it necessary to question their mental state?

  • John in Athens | October 3, 2007 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”151949″]We have Celtic FC and the Huns in one entry… small world.[/quote]

    That’s Tims and Huns, by the way.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”151952″]funny how of the 8 MLB teams in the playoffs, looking at the logos 7 of them have red in them. Thats why I’m cheering for the Rockies.[/quote]
    Even though its in their logo, I don’t associate red with the Yankees.

  • Jimmy Cubs | October 3, 2007 at 1:23 pm |

    I’m sorry, but this is the worst article I’ve ever seen on this site. How much sweat does a little head band keep out of your eyes? Headbands are worn by too many players as a fashion accessory, and Skiles put the nix on them because he wants his team to worry more about playing team ball than looking cool. I can’t believe he wavered on this. Skiles is the best coach in the NBA, hard nosed guy that doesn’t take crap from his stars and by benching Ben, he showed that. Team first, looking cool doesn’t matter. Headbands don’t win championships. Who cares is it’s league approved, the NBA just wants more products to put it’s logo on to sell.

  • stan aka the took | October 3, 2007 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”151957″][quote comment=”151949″]We have Celtic FC and the Huns in one entry… small world.[/quote]

    That’s Tims and Huns, by the way.[/quote]

    them too… them too :). ohh old firm its a love and hate relationship with in me.

  • Paul Lukas | October 3, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”151968″]Headbands don’t win championships.[/quote]

    Agreed. Last I checked, they don’t lose them either.

  • todd krevanchi | October 3, 2007 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”151968″]I’m sorry, but this is the worst article I’ve ever seen on this site. How much sweat does a little head band keep out of your eyes? [/quote]

    ever sweat through your hat playing baseball, softball or when you are our for a run? that much.

    i never wore a head band playing pick up until a few years ago. now i usually bring 3 because they become saturated that quickly.

  • Jimmy Cubs | October 3, 2007 at 1:35 pm |

    Team first. How many stupid technicals have players been given for tossing the headband? Get rid of the headband, one less chance to get a stupid T. Some of Sheed’s headband tosses and subsequent T’s might have very well cost the Pistons games and stopped them from getting another championship the last couple years. Then again, Sheed gets T’s for looking at someone.

  • Stevo | October 3, 2007 at 1:36 pm |

    I’m really liking that Blue Jay logo, very old school look to it. I like the cleats better, but both will do.

    I have that logo embedded underneath my birthstone on my class ring, and I have seriously considered getting it tattooed on my arm, with or without cleats (Yeah, I know it’s just high school, but it’s MY high school). The football team uses this helmet design, but the Marching Jay is still our main bird. Sometime I’ll compile a gallery of all of our sports’ unis, cause I think they’re pretty cool.

  • todd krevanchi | October 3, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    great response so far… here is what was sent
    press conference classics:
    lee elia on the cubs fans
    mike gundy on the newspaper
    brett myers on the retard
    ai on practice
    dennis green on the bears
    hal macrae on george brett
    bobby bonilla and reporter
    dan hawkins on division 1 football

    interview or performance classics:
    carl lewis national anthem
    roseanne national anthem
    ozzy osbourne take me out to the ball game
    shaq dropping an f bomb during post game

    if you guys know if these are online as a wav or mp3, please send the link too…
    or if you know how to transfer the audio on youtube to an mp3, id welcome that tutorial as well.

  • MLB2PDX | October 3, 2007 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”151968″]I’m sorry, but this is the worst article I’ve ever seen on this site. How much sweat does a little head band keep out of your eyes? Headbands are worn by too many players as a fashion accessory, and Skiles put the nix on them because he wants his team to worry more about playing team ball than looking cool. I can’t believe he wavered on this. Skiles is the best coach in the NBA, hard nosed guy that doesn’t take crap from his stars and by benching Ben, he showed that. Team first, looking cool doesn’t matter. Headbands don’t win championships. Who cares is it’s league approved, the NBA just wants more products to put it’s logo on to sell.[/quote]

    The worst? No. If people are going to freak out over helmets, facemasks, chin straps, visors, shoe laces, arm bands, etc. then I see no problem with an article on headbands. Especially relating to a story that got someone benched. And yes, they do work. Similar to what a baseball hat does. They’re not all for fashion. And, on top of that, if they keep a player comfortable (physically and mentally) then let them do it.

  • JM | October 3, 2007 at 1:40 pm |

    My understanding of the Scott Skiles ban on headbands is that he didn’t like Eddie Curry wearing a headband on his neck, so he made a general rule about it.

    Also, I think Jerry Sloan does not allow headbands, which is why Dee Brown didn’t wear one with the Jazz last year, when he wore one throughout his high school and college career.

  • Jimmy Cubs | October 3, 2007 at 1:42 pm |

    We’re talking about headbands here, not the game. Headbands? C’mon, we’re talking about headbands, not the game that I love. Are we talking about the game? No we’re talking about headbands. Headbands.

    Just say no to headbands.

  • Rick White | October 3, 2007 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”151976″]Team first. How many stupid technicals have players been given for tossing the headband? Get rid of the headband, one less chance to get a stupid T. Some of Sheed’s headband tosses and subsequent T’s might have very well cost the Pistons games and stopped them from getting another championship the last couple years. Then again, Sheed gets T’s for looking at someone.[/quote]

    If you’ll forgive me … headbands don’t get technical fouls, People get technical fouls.

    If Shees hadn’t thrown the headband he would have done something else when losing his temper and still gotten the ‘T’s.

  • Chad G | October 3, 2007 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”151968″]I’m sorry, but this is the worst article I’ve ever seen on this site. How much sweat does a little head band keep out of your eyes? Headbands are worn by too many players as a fashion accessory, and Skiles put the nix on them because he wants his team to worry more about playing team ball than looking cool. I can’t believe he wavered on this. Skiles is the best coach in the NBA, hard nosed guy that doesn’t take crap from his stars and by benching Ben, he showed that. Team first, looking cool doesn’t matter. Headbands don’t win championships. Who cares is it’s league approved, the NBA just wants more products to put it’s logo on to sell.[/quote]

    Sweat bands definitely make a difference. I have Semi long curly coarse hair, and I like to wear one when I go hiking. It keeps the sweat and hair out of my face.

  • Perry | October 3, 2007 at 1:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”151948″]maybe you guys can help me.
    im in the process of putting together a cd of the greatest audio in sports.

    press conference classics:
    lee elia
    mike gundy
    brett myers
    AI on practice

    interview or performance classics:
    carl lewis singing the national anthem

    i have those so far…
    perhaps you guys remember some that fit these categories, or one that would be in another category.

    please send to
    sportsaudiocd@yahoo.com
    id love your input…

    i know that once people see what is being submitted, it may spark a memory, so i will post an update every so often

    thanks…[/quote]

    Coach rants: Dennis Green last year after the Cardinals blew a MNF game to the Bears (“They WERE who we THOUGHT they were!…Go ahead and crown their asses!”)

    Also, Dan Hawkins speaking to the Colorado boosters after someone complained about not getting enough time off before summer practice started (“IT’S DIVISION I FOOTBALL!! IT’S THE BIG 12!! … And we’re a little bummed out we don’t get more time off? Go play intramurals, brother. Go play intramurals.”)

    I loved it. I work at CU, and the popular football t-shirt here now says “CU Football — It ain’t intramurals, brother”

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Teebz | October 3, 2007 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”151978″]great response so far… here is what was sent
    press conference classics:
    lee elia on the cubs fans
    mike gundy on the newspaper
    brett myers on the retard
    ai on practice
    dennis green on the bears
    hal macrae on george brett
    bobby bonilla and reporter
    dan hawkins on division 1 football

    interview or performance classics:
    carl lewis national anthem
    roseanne national anthem
    ozzy osbourne take me out to the ball game
    shaq dropping an f bomb during post game

    if you guys know if these are online as a wav or mp3, please send the link too…
    or if you know how to transfer the audio on youtube to an mp3, id welcome that tutorial as well.[/quote]

    No Herm Edwards “YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!!”?

    I always crack up at that one.

  • Kevin | October 3, 2007 at 1:50 pm |

    what about jim mora…”PLAYOFFS? your talking about PLAYOFFS? we will be lucky if we win another game.”

  • Fursty | October 3, 2007 at 1:50 pm |

    Forgot to mention that Oregon baseball will return in 2009 (the school’s baseball program shut down in 1981). In interview on Cal-Orgeon football game, new baseball coach George Horton said that he was meeting with Nike people to go over uniforms. Everyone brace yourself.

  • Judd | October 3, 2007 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”151937″][quote comment=”151913″]Somebody needs to tell this guy that he needs to update that NFL logo tattoo slightly next year….

    http://i.cnn.net/si/...

    Is that a Dallas Cowboys star logo above the NFL shield? That seems out of place.[/quote]

    I wonder if those are temporary tattoos, the Viking logo on his left bicep looks like it is… and the Cowboy’s star looks fake as well

  • Chance | October 3, 2007 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”151902″][quote comment=”151900″][quote comment=”151869″]http://www.milwaukee...

    The Milwaukee Admirals unveiled their new RBK edge sweaters. Notice the “old school” Brewers logo[/quote]

    AACK! Love the logo – hate the sweaters[/quote]

    …and by that I mean the Admirals logo. The Brew Crew logo is a nice touch, too[/quote]

    I do, too. Loved last year’s sweaters, love the Admiral logo and Brewers sponsor logo, hate the new EDGE template.

  • Seth H | October 3, 2007 at 1:55 pm |

    I had a caddy at Prestwick once almost refuse to carry my bag because it has a “[NY] Rangers” logo on it and he was (a) Catholic, and (b) a Celtic supporter. Once he took a second look, he was okay with it. (And then spent the next 2 1/2 hours telling me stories about caddieing for Wayne Gretzky and Marty McSorley.)

  • Duckstyle | October 3, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”151980″]My understanding of the Scott Skiles ban on headbands is that he didn’t like Eddie Curry wearing a headband on his neck, so he made a general rule about it.

    Also, I think Jerry Sloan does not allow headbands, which is why Dee Brown didn’t wear one with the Jazz last year, when he wore one throughout his high school and college career.[/quote]

    I think the Eddie Robinson experiment also had a lot to do with the rule. He was a lazy no-account just like Curry and set the Bulls back another year or so in rebuilding. I think it had a lot to do with solidarity as a team, no individuals. Btw, I thought the topic was great. But I am a Bulls fan, might have something to do with it. Could Jimmy Cubs possibly be a Pistons fan thats still bitter that Ben left? Weird….

  • dm00n | October 3, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    In the AHL, Rochester Americans (Amerks?) unveiled their edge jerseys today.

  • dm00n | October 3, 2007 at 1:57 pm |

    And when I say today, I mean yesterday (apparently).

  • Philly Bill | October 3, 2007 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”151985″]
    interview or performance classics:
    carl lewis national anthem
    roseanne national anthem
    ozzy osbourne take me out to the ball game
    shaq dropping an f bomb during post game

    if you guys know if these are online as a wav or mp3, please send the link too…
    or if you know how to transfer the audio on youtube to an mp3, id welcome that tutorial as well.[/quote]

    No Herm Edwards “YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!!”?

    I always crack up at that one.[/quote]

    Ricky Watters – “for who, for what?”
    Ryan Leaf hysterically screaming at a reporter in the Chargers’ locker room
    John Chaney threatening to kill John Calipari
    Tommy Lasorda’s response to “what did you think of Kingman’s [8 RBI] performance?”
    Avery Johnson forcing a reporter to answer his own question after Dwyane Wade took about 56 foul shots in an ’06 Finals game
    Jim Mora’s “Diddly-Poo” oratory with the Saints
    Sam Wyche with the on-field microphone – “You don’t live in Cleveland, you live in Cincinnati!”

  • Chance | October 3, 2007 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”151932″][quote comment=”151927″]

    That’s true, but look, London itself has 23 soccer teams of various levels…..having the New York Mets and the New York Yankees, is one thing, but 23 teams called the London______ would be a ridiculous.

    We’ve had teams like the Brooklyn Dodgers named after a part of a large city. It would be possible with London.

    What I don’t understand is that there really isn’t a naming convention (at least by looking at that map). Forest Green Rovers, Plymouth Argyle, Kidderminster Harriers, Milton Keynes Dons, etc, seem to use the “American style (for the sake of this conversation)” name convention.

    What is the purpose or meaning of calling a team United? There seem to be a lot of them, is this some kind of indication that there was once a merger of smaller clubs?[/quote]

    dm00n, teams that have ‘United’ in the name are usually teams that merged with another club somewhere in their history.

    Milton Keynes Dons is actually an interesting team. They used to be Wimbledon, but the team went bankrupt and sold off most of their assets. The new owners wanted a break with the past so they renamed the team. Here’s the history on that: http://www.historica...

    The “United”-as-the-merger-of-two-teams thing happens sometime (as in Newcastle United), but just as often it’s chosen because the owners liked the name (West Ham United, DC United and even Manchester United).

    For soccer teams that have “Rovers” or “Wanderers” in their name, that’s usually not the official nickname as we would understand it. It signifies that the team moved locations in the early days, or that the team merged with a team called “Wanderers”, as in the case of Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C. (the “Wolves”). Wanderers, after a popular club, was a popular name in the late 19th century.

    So the only English club to directly reference its nickname is Milton Keynes Dons, which as pointed out is something of a special case.

    And just for the record, when the Brooklyn Dodgers were founded, Brooklyn was a separate city….

  • kevodrums | October 3, 2007 at 2:09 pm |

    The Milwaukee Admirals unveiled their new RBK edge sweaters. Notice the “old school” Brewers logo

    Why would they put a baseball logo on a hockey jersey?

    The Brewers sponser them.

    Plus, the Admirals owner is also an owner of the Brewers.

  • Jkads | October 3, 2007 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”151936″]The LPGA unveiled a new logo today:

    http://www.lpga.com/...

    Looks very Greg Norman shark logo to me.

  • Christopher | October 3, 2007 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”151978″]great response so far… here is what was sent
    press conference classics:
    lee elia on the cubs fans
    mike gundy on the newspaper
    brett myers on the retard
    ai on practice
    dennis green on the bears
    hal macrae on george brett
    bobby bonilla and reporter
    dan hawkins on division 1 football

    interview or performance classics:
    carl lewis national anthem
    roseanne national anthem
    ozzy osbourne take me out to the ball game
    shaq dropping an f bomb during post game

    if you guys know if these are online as a wav or mp3, please send the link too…
    or if you know how to transfer the audio on youtube to an mp3, id welcome that tutorial as well.[/quote]

    How about AI: “Practice?!”

  • Tim F | October 3, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    Paul, whats going on with the interview you had on XM Home Ice? Is it going to be streamed anywhere?

  • Chance | October 3, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”151995″]In the AHL, Rochester Americans (Amerks?) unveiled their edge jerseys today.[/quote]

    They’re already backpedaling:
    [quote]“RBK is integrating vertical striping into the jersey, and they wanted to do away with all horizontal striping,” Amerks president Steve Donner said. “It wasn’t our suggestion to remove the stripes.”[/quote]

    Maybe the Amerks should have actually voiced their desire to keep the stripes – the Chicago Wolves didn’t have any problem tranferring theirs to the new template….

  • ToasterPoodle | October 3, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    Which of the 8 teams in the baseball playoff wear the best uniforms. Meaning, which team has the most players who wear stirrups, forsake the pajama look, don’t wear insanely over-sized unis?
    Phillies seem to have an advantage based solely on Moyer’s Liberty bell stirrups.

  • jere | October 3, 2007 at 2:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”151955″][quote comment=”151924″]Michael Doucette: Did you ever live in Connecticut? I know someone with your name….[/quote]

    Nope, I’m a good old New York City Suburb product. I did have family in Connecticut, but no one of this last name.[/quote]

    Okay, thanks. Note: You can be an NYC suburb product from CT! (I consider myself one, and I was a good 40 miles north and east.)

  • Chance | October 3, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”152000″]The Milwaukee Admirals unveiled their new RBK edge sweaters. Notice the “old school” Brewers logo

    Why would they put a baseball logo on a hockey jersey?

    The Brewers sponser them.

    Plus, the Admirals owner is also an owner of the Brewers.[/quote]

    Well, one is. Mark Attanasio, the principal owner of the Brewers, is a minority owner of the Ads. So is pitcher Ben Sheets, and Brewers Asst GM Gord Ash – they all have a little stake in the team.

    What’s really interesting to me is that they only use the throwback Brewers logo: on the sweaters, on stadium signage, and for giveaways.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”152006″]Which of the 8 teams in the baseball playoff wear the best uniforms. Meaning, which team has the most players who wear stirrups, forsake the pajama look, don’t wear insanely over-sized unis?
    Phillies seem to have an advantage based solely on Moyer’s Liberty bell stirrups.[/quote]
    The Red Sox are definitely the worst, with Manny as their leader. Don’t quite a few Cubs wear their uniforms correctly?

  • Chance | October 3, 2007 at 2:18 pm |

    A-Rod started wearing his uniform properly this year – any wonder that he’s tearing it up?

  • Randy | October 3, 2007 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”151978″]great response so far… here is what was sent
    press conference classics:
    lee elia on the cubs fans
    mike gundy on the newspaper
    brett myers on the retard
    ai on practice
    dennis green on the bears
    hal macrae on george brett
    bobby bonilla and reporter
    dan hawkins on division 1 football

    interview or performance classics:
    carl lewis national anthem
    roseanne national anthem
    ozzy osbourne take me out to the ball game
    shaq dropping an f bomb during post game

    if you guys know if these are online as a wav or mp3, please send the link too…
    or if you know how to transfer the audio on youtube to an mp3, id welcome that tutorial as well.[/quote]

    Don’t forget Jeff Gordon excitedly welcoming everyone to “Wrigley Stadium”.

  • Mike | October 3, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”151982″][quote comment=”151976″]Team first. How many stupid technicals have players been given for tossing the headband? Get rid of the headband, one less chance to get a stupid T. Some of Sheed’s headband tosses and subsequent T’s might have very well cost the Pistons games and stopped them from getting another championship the last couple years. Then again, Sheed gets T’s for looking at someone.[/quote]

    If you’ll forgive me … headbands don’t get technical fouls, People get technical fouls.

    If Shees hadn’t thrown the headband he would have done something else when losing his temper and still gotten the ‘T’s.[/quote]

    “If headbands are outlawed, only outlaws will have headbands” :)

  • Marty Met | October 3, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”152014″]A-Rod started wearing his uniform properly this year – any wonder that he’s tearing it up?[/quote]

    huh? properly? He NEVER wears stirrups. Just black or midnight blue or whatever ugly color that is the Yankees wear.

  • Greg | October 3, 2007 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”151978″]

    if you guys know if these are online as a wav or mp3, please send the link too…
    or if you know how to transfer the audio on youtube to an mp3, id welcome that tutorial as well.[/quote]

    This site has the option of converting video files to audio:vixy

    As for all the soccer comments…
    It’s been said by plenty of people that the individual names refer to the part of town the team is in or the name of the club they started as. That’s exactly it and it translates in other countries as well. In spain you get RC (Racing Club) and Real (Royal). In italy you get AC (Associazione Calcio=football club) and AS (Associazione Sportiva=sports club). In Germany you get teams with the year of inception in their name (Schalke 04, Munich 1860, Hannover 96).

    It’s all about tradition and local ties. The nicknames are totally informal, as someone said above. So our format of “City” – “Mascot” doesn’t work.

  • Trevor Kruger | October 3, 2007 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”151891″][quote comment=”151884″]

    Because multiple teams play in each city and many of their club names are derived from aspects of their origin: for example, Arsenal and West Ham United are both London clubs. Arsenal got it’s name because it started as a group of workers from the Royal Woolwich Arsenal playing pickup games in their off hours. West Ham got their nickname ‘The Hammers’ because the team originated from groups of workers at the shipyards along the Thames.

    That’s why you won’t see teams like the London_____ or the York_____.[/quote]

    That’s not really a good reason, though. Multiple teams play the same sport in some American cities and still use the city name. And the second part might be true, but it still doesn’t explain WHY they don’t use the city name. The London Arsenals or the London Hammers would represent their origins just as well.

    Now, I’m not saying either way is better, or that anybody should change, so don’t shoot me, I’m just saying that the explanation given doesn’t work for me. It’s probably just a case of things evolving differently in different countries, like how soccer normally has promotion between leagues and American sports don’t.[/quote]
    …yea, except Arsenal’s nickname is the “Gunners.” I’m not sure why were trying to tell a system that has been around longer than our naming system that its wrong. In England teams are named for their city(Liverpool FC), neighborhood(Tottenham-Hotspur FC) or for their origin(Arsenal). They go by those names instead of over-glorifying like we do here. I’ve always felt that teams should represent where they are from more than their nickname. for instance: This is much better than this.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | October 3, 2007 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”151953″]Ray High School isn’t the only team I’ve seen with striped shoulder yokes. Pine Bluff High School in Arkansas has had them for as long as I can remember. Their mascot is the Zebras.

    Unfortunately, here in Arkansas we sometimes have to live through some designs that are just horrid on the eyes. Hall High in Little Rock sports some orange unis that will make your eyes bleed.

    And in the logo department, Siloam Springs HS was contacted by Warner Bros. this spring and told to remove their S logo. Article here.[/quote]

    Holy cow! Never thought I would see Siloam Springs mentioned on Uniwatch! We have a place in Flint just outside West Siloam!

  • Trevor Kruger | October 3, 2007 at 2:47 pm |

    I meant to say over glorifying nicknames, but I left out the nicknames part, my bad.

  • Kenny | October 3, 2007 at 2:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”151968″]I’m sorry, but this is the worst article I’ve ever seen on this site. How much sweat does a little head band keep out of your eyes? Headbands are worn by too many players as a fashion accessory, and Skiles put the nix on them because he wants his team to worry more about playing team ball than looking cool. I can’t believe he wavered on this. Skiles is the best coach in the NBA, hard nosed guy that doesn’t take crap from his stars and by benching Ben, he showed that. Team first, looking cool doesn’t matter. Headbands don’t win championships. Who cares is it’s league approved, the NBA just wants more products to put it’s logo on to sell.[/quote]

    If you look good you play good – nuff said

  • kevodrums | October 3, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    The Milwaukee Admirals unveiled their new RBK edge sweaters. Notice the “old school” Brewers logo

    Why would they put a baseball logo on a hockey jersey?

    The Brewers sponser them.

    Plus, the Admirals owner is also an owner of the Brewers.

    Well, one is. Mark Attanasio, the principal owner of the Brewers, is a minority owner of the Ads. So is pitcher Ben Sheets, and Brewers Asst GM Gord Ash – they all have a little stake in the team.

    What’s really interesting to me is that they only use the throwback Brewers logo: on the sweaters, on stadium signage, and for giveaways.

    I was referring to Harris Turer, principal owner of the Admirals and minority owner of the Brewers. I’d forgotten about Sheets’ and Ash’s involvement. Turer is also an alum of UW-M, whose signage is featured all over Miller Park.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | October 3, 2007 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”152001″][quote comment=”151936″]The LPGA unveiled a new logo today:

    http://www.lpga.com/...

    Looks very Greg Norman shark logo to me.[/quote]

    Yea, very nineties…. the only real drawback though,is that when I go to LPGA International course to play, I won’t be able to buy anything because it will all have that silly logo. Like the design gimics: no frame – no limits and strong swing representation. Just didn’t translate into the logo very well.

  • Trump1010 | October 3, 2007 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”151912″][quote comment=”151907″][quote comment=”151869″]http://www.milwaukee...

    The Milwaukee Admirals unveiled their new RBK edge sweaters. Notice the “old school” Brewers logo[/quote]

    Why would they put a baseball logo on a hockey jersey?[/quote]

    The Brewers sponser them.[/quote]

    So is that logo creep? lol

  • Chance | October 3, 2007 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”152028″]The Milwaukee Admirals unveiled their new RBK edge sweaters. Notice the “old school” Brewers logo

    Why would they put a baseball logo on a hockey jersey?

    The Brewers sponser them.

    Plus, the Admirals owner is also an owner of the Brewers.

    Well, one is. Mark Attanasio, the principal owner of the Brewers, is a minority owner of the Ads. So is pitcher Ben Sheets, and Brewers Asst GM Gord Ash – they all have a little stake in the team.

    What’s really interesting to me is that they only use the throwback Brewers logo: on the sweaters, on stadium signage, and for giveaways.

    I was referring to Harris Turer, principal owner of the Admirals and minority owner of the Brewers. I’d forgotten about Sheets’ and Ash’s involvement. Turer is also an alum of UW-M, whose signage is featured all over Miller Park.[/quote]
    Sorry, mis-read your post. Thought you were talking about Attanasio.

    The Brewers and Admirals are pretty clubby, aren’t they? I rather like that – good cross-promotion.

  • Kenny | October 3, 2007 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”152017″][quote comment=”152014″]A-Rod started wearing his uniform properly this year – any wonder that he’s tearing it up?[/quote]

    huh? properly? He NEVER wears stirrups. Just black or midnight blue or whatever ugly color that is the Yankees wear.[/quote]

    pants are too tight as well

  • Chance | October 3, 2007 at 3:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”152017″][quote comment=”152014″]A-Rod started wearing his uniform properly this year – any wonder that he’s tearing it up?[/quote]

    huh? properly? He NEVER wears stirrups. Just black or midnight blue or whatever ugly color that is the Yankees wear.[/quote]

    Yes, properly – pants hiked to the knee. You can see the beautiful blue socks. As God intended. ;)

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 3:09 pm |

    Oh God. The Rockies are wearing their Ace Frehley vests. they probably now consider them ‘Lucky’ and we’ll be subjected to them until they’re knocked out of the playoffs.

  • Marty Met | October 3, 2007 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”152035″][quote comment=”152017″][quote comment=”152014″]A-Rod started wearing his uniform properly this year – any wonder that he’s tearing it up?[/quote]

    huh? properly? He NEVER wears stirrups. Just black or midnight blue or whatever ugly color that is the Yankees wear.[/quote]

    Yes, properly – pants hiked to the knee. You can see the beautiful blue socks. As God intended. ;)[/quote]

    So why no stirrups?

  • Adam | October 3, 2007 at 3:12 pm |

    Not directly uni-related, but related to previous discussions…anyone ever notice the “8’s” in powerpoint seem to also be upside down (arial 22)?

  • UW justin | October 3, 2007 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”152015″][quote comment=”151978″]great response so far… here is what was sent
    press conference classics:
    lee elia on the cubs fans
    mike gundy on the newspaper
    brett myers on the retard
    ai on practice
    dennis green on the bears
    hal macrae on george brett
    bobby bonilla and reporter
    dan hawkins on division 1 football

    interview or performance classics:
    carl lewis national anthem
    roseanne national anthem
    ozzy osbourne take me out to the ball game
    shaq dropping an f bomb during post game

    if you guys know if these are online as a wav or mp3, please send the link too…
    or if you know how to transfer the audio on youtube to an mp3, id welcome that tutorial as well.[/quote]

    Don’t forget Jeff Gordon excitedly welcoming everyone to “Wrigley Stadium”.[/quote]

    Or Jeremy Piven’s “Let’s hug it out, bitches” when he was at Wrigley…

  • Kenny | October 3, 2007 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”152041″][quote comment=”152035″][quote comment=”152017″][quote comment=”152014″]A-Rod started wearing his uniform properly this year – any wonder that he’s tearing it up?[/quote]

    huh? properly? He NEVER wears stirrups. Just black or midnight blue or whatever ugly color that is the Yankees wear.[/quote]

    Yes, properly – pants hiked to the knee. You can see the beautiful blue socks. As God intended. ;)[/quote]

    So why no stirrups?[/quote]

    this or this…but not this

  • BWings | October 3, 2007 at 3:15 pm |

    I have updated the LPGA logo. How do I upload it to flickr where others can view?

  • Glenn Tanner | October 3, 2007 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”151795″]I have never understood the name Golden State Warriors. Yes, I know it’s California’s nickname, but here’s my question: there are four NBA teams in California, so why do the Warriors get to call themselves Golden State? I suppose it might be a homage to the Golden Gate Bridge, but considering that the Warriors play in Oakland (which is connected to San Francisco by the Bay Bridge, it still doesn’t make sense. How about Oakland Warriors or, better yet, Bay Area Warriors?[/quote]

    The reason (such as it is) is that they used to be the “San Francisco Warriors” and played in the SF Cow Palace arena, hence the old “the City” logo with cable car. When they moved across the bay to Oakland -which was even worse then than it is now with high crime and lack of architecture and sophistication vs. “the City” – they did NOT want Oakland to associated with the team, so they adopted “Golden Sate” the CA state nickname. BTW, this was before the Clippers arrived from Buffalo to SD to LA and Sacramento arrived from KC. Even though Oakland has improved, it is still a dump, and given the Raiders and their fans, who want that name on the team ???

    Similar rationale for the Angels. When they moved to Anaheim from Los Angeles where they were tenants in Dodger Stadium, it was a small dusty patchwork of cow pastures, farmland, strip malls and Disneyland. There was absolutely no cache’ for the name of Anaheim, so they adopted the name “California Angels”. Anaheim only became the name when the City of Anaheim donated lots of taxpayer $$$ to the stadium and demanded contractually that the name Anaheim be in their name. Still Anaheim also has zero cache’; one might say it too is a dump, so the current owner found a contact loophole and hence the name “Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim”.

  • BWings | October 3, 2007 at 3:21 pm |

    I’m going to try this. After all those beautiful and clever corporate logos yesterday (a GREAT topic). I couldn’t resist “modifying” the LPGA logo. I’m not that good at this but, you get the point. This incorporates the green “L”, the red “P”, the orange “G” and the blue “A”. I can’t believe I’m not going to get paid for the design…

  • Kevin M | October 3, 2007 at 3:23 pm |

    No comments on Luongo’s mask? I think it is brilliant.

    As for the soccer team names, thanks to all those that shared their comments. I am by no means a fan of soccer, but I found the background stories pretty cool anyway.

  • BWings | October 3, 2007 at 3:23 pm |

    OK…try again. LPGA logo.

  • Monte | October 3, 2007 at 3:23 pm |

    Sorry if this has been previously posted

    From TSN

    NHL players will tell you the practice and preseason version of Reebok’s sweater design needs work.

    The NHL has recognized the issues and Tuesday morning in a conference call with Reebok the league was assured alterations will be made.

    The biggest issue focused on the water resistant coating on the fabric of the sweaters. It was designed to keep moisture out.

    It did that, but also trapped the moisture in which led to soggy equipment and unhappy hockey players.

    To correct that problem Reebok says it has developed a treatment that permits sweat to escape through the fibers, yet still manages to stay reasonably dry.

    This new sweater is being shipped to teams around the league, with the Pittsburgh Penguins and Reebok’s spokesman Sidney Crosby likely to debut the modifications as early as Friday.

    Despite the public outcry from the game’s fighters, the NHL doesn’t see the need to alter the design to accommodate their needs, other than to further investigate whether the sweater’s tie-downs have to be improved.

    The belief is most fighters cheated in the past, utilizing the loose fit to get their arms free, or to shake-off binding elbow pads.

    That can’t happen anymore and the NHL has no intention of changing how the sweater is tailored.

    The coordinating socks on the other hand have been replaced in hopes the issue of tearing that some players experienced in the preseason, has been corrected.

    The message to all players from the league and the manufacturer is, it’s a work in progress and patience is required.

    Further modifications are likely, what isn’t likely is the NHL turning back and abandoning a deal that pours millions into league coffers.

  • BWings | October 3, 2007 at 3:27 pm |

    LPGA logo

    I think I did it…

    TA DA…

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”152052″]LPGA logo

    I think I did it…

    TA DA…[/quote]
    Excellent. You could probably turn her head into a ‘G’, its almost there already.

  • Timmer | October 3, 2007 at 3:35 pm |

    That Schilling banner reminds me of the Nashua Pride banner. Former Sox reliever Rich Garces plays for them, and if you look at their website banner, you can see it’s clearly an edited picture. It’s really a picture of him from his days in Boston. And it’s the 5th picture that comes up when you google image search his name, so thats probably how they found it. It’s even the same exact size.

  • Pat | October 3, 2007 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”151968″]I’m sorry, but this is the worst article I’ve ever seen on this site. How much sweat does a little head band keep out of your eyes? Headbands are worn by too many players as a fashion accessory, and Skiles put the nix on them because he wants his team to worry more about playing team ball than looking cool. I can’t believe he wavered on this. Skiles is the best coach in the NBA, hard nosed guy that doesn’t take crap from his stars and by benching Ben, he showed that. Team first, looking cool doesn’t matter. Headbands don’t win championships. Who cares is it’s league approved, the NBA just wants more products to put it’s logo on to sell.[/quote]

    I play my fair share of basketball and have found that it makes a HUGE difference when you wear a headband. Either way my shirt is going to get soaked with sweat, but my face always ends up the same way at some point. Natural reaction, then is to wipe my face on your shirt. But, since my shirt is soaked already there is no dry spot to wipe my face with. So I have a few choices. 1. is to slow down the sweat coming down my face with a headband. This helps a lot actually. I wear a wrist band for the same reason. I can wipe my face with the wrist band, mid-90s Alonzo Mourning style, after my shirt gets wet. 2. is to carry around a towel with me on the court. I know one guy I play with does this but it always falls out of his shorts and he ends up having to pick it up or someone kicks it out of the way going back up the other end of the court. The headband is a safer and more efficient way of doing the towel.

    Sure, some guys wear is as a fashion accessory, but that doesn’t change the fact that it does have a specific function that it performs.

  • Ian K | October 3, 2007 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”152046″]
    Similar rationale for the Angels. When they moved to Anaheim from Los Angeles where they were tenants in Dodger Stadium, it was a small dusty patchwork of cow pastures, farmland, strip malls and Disneyland. There was absolutely no cache’ for the name of Anaheim, so they adopted the name “California Angels”. Anaheim only became the name when the City of Anaheim donated lots of taxpayer $$$ to the stadium and demanded contractually that the name Anaheim be in their name. Still Anaheim also has zero cache’; one might say it too is a dump, so the current owner found a contact loophole and hence the name “Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim”.[/quote]

    The name change also coincided with Disney’s purchase of the team, and move to make Anaheim a destination city.

    And you say “Anaheim” has no cache? It has a lot more cache than “Buffalo” or “Utah”. And not to start a new debate but I’ll say it once and be done with it: Anaheim IS NOT Los Angeles.

  • Matt D. | October 3, 2007 at 3:42 pm |

    they messed up the diamondbacks logo in the USA TODAY today. They made it look green and black. It doesn’t look too good

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”152056″]That Schilling banner reminds me of the Nashua Pride banner. Former Sox reliever Rich Garces plays for them, and if you look at their website banner, you can see it’s clearly an edited picture. It’s really a picture of him from his days in Boston. And it’s the 5th picture that comes up when you google image search his name, so thats probably how they found it. It’s even the same exact size.[/quote]
    Kinda reminds me of one of the worst baseball cards of all time. They had to airbrush over the brown Padre pinstripes and change the SD to an SF. Just horrible and lazy.

  • David | October 3, 2007 at 3:51 pm |

    Bill Lynch (Indiana football coach) talked about why IU wore white-on-red instead of white-on-white:

    (registration required for link)

    One change that IU employed Saturday was wearing red pants with white jerseys rather than the typical white-on-white road uniform. While fans often put a lot of attention into how uniforms should look, the selection of Saturday’s outfit was purely a practical matter.

    “The honest answer is we played on grass rather than turf,” Lynch said. “It’s easier to clean grass stains out of red pants than white pants.”

  • Mark Mayall | October 3, 2007 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”151948″]maybe you guys can help me.
    im in the process of putting together a cd of the greatest audio in sports.

    press conference classics:
    lee elia
    mike gundy
    brett myers
    AI on practice

    interview or performance classics:
    carl lewis singing the national anthem

    i have those so far…
    perhaps you guys remember some that fit these categories, or one that would be in another category.

    please send to
    sportsaudiocd@yahoo.com
    id love your input…

    i know that once people see what is being submitted, it may spark a memory, so i will post an update every so often

    thanks…[/quote]

    -Jim Mora doubting his team’s chances of making the “PLAYOFFS?!?!?!”
    -Ken Williams (White Sox GM) had a vicious rant about Frank Thomas after the Big Hurt left Chicago unhappily in ’05

    Boston sports fans know that in his dotage, Tommy Heinsohn has become a reliable source of hilarious rants directed at NBA officials. People outside of Boston may only remember him as a biased color man on CBS broadcasts back in the ’80s, but he takes it to a different level as the color man for the local Celtics broadcasts. Just a few gems from memory:

    -1993 “A merciful god would have called that foul on the Spurs” my college roommate, a Philly native, heard this and literally fell out of bed laughing.

    -1998 “Go back to the girls’ league!” he actually yelled this at Violet Palmer, in her first year in the NBA, on air while she was in earshot. To this day, when doing a Celtics game, she does her warmup calisthenics right in front of Tommy just to piss him off. When Cedric Maxwell famously got in trouble for his “go make me some breakfast” comment directed at Violet, he was trying (badly) to do an impression of Tommy.
    – 2002 (I think) “They’re gonna call it a hard foul?! These guys are ridiculous!!” He went on to say Kenny Mauer should go home to his wife, “because nobody here loves him!” It sounded like he was going to have an aneurysm.

    really, Tommy deserves his own CD. He’s calmed down some the last couple of years, probably on advice of his doctor.

  • Paul Lukas | October 3, 2007 at 4:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”152004″]Paul, whats going on with the interview you had on XM Home Ice? Is it going to be streamed anywhere?[/quote]

    Not sure — will check. Frankly, it was just a quick interview (maybe 7 or 8 mins.) that covered stuff all of you already know.

  • dm00n | October 3, 2007 at 4:04 pm |

    The reason (such as it is) is that they used to be the “San Francisco Warriors” and played in the SF Cow Palace arena, hence the old “the City” logo with cable car. When they moved across the bay to Oakland -which was even worse then than it is now with high crime and lack of architecture and sophistication vs. “the City” – they did NOT want Oakland to associated with the team, so they adopted “Golden Sate” the CA state nickname. BTW, this was before the Clippers arrived from Buffalo to SD to LA and Sacramento arrived from KC. Even though Oakland has improved, it is still a dump, and given the Raiders and their fans, who want that name on the team ??

    Here we had a whole city that decided to change who they were associated with. Thus East Detroit became Eastpointe (to evoke the tony Grosse Pointe collection of suburbs). But weirdly enough, the school district remained East Detroit, and the East Detroit Shamrocks live on.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 4:05 pm |

    Anyone out there familiar with the Arizona Cardinals local radio color guy. That guy had some amazing lines on Sunday during the game with Pittsburgh, I wish I had written some of them down. The guy sounds like Randy ‘Macho Man’ Savage.

  • Bendert | October 3, 2007 at 4:06 pm |

    John L. Smith had a couple good tirades at MSU as well

  • Paul Lukas | October 3, 2007 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”152051″]Sorry if this has been previously posted

    From TSN

    NHL players will tell you the practice and preseason version of Reebok’s sweater design needs work…. [/quote]

    Got a link for that?

  • Chance | October 3, 2007 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”152059″][quote comment=”152046″]
    Similar rationale for the Angels. When they moved to Anaheim from Los Angeles where they were tenants in Dodger Stadium, it was a small dusty patchwork of cow pastures, farmland, strip malls and Disneyland. There was absolutely no cache’ for the name of Anaheim, so they adopted the name “California Angels”. Anaheim only became the name when the City of Anaheim donated lots of taxpayer $$$ to the stadium and demanded contractually that the name Anaheim be in their name. Still Anaheim also has zero cache’; one might say it too is a dump, so the current owner found a contact loophole and hence the name “Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim”.[/quote]

    The name change also coincided with Disney’s purchase of the team, and move to make Anaheim a destination city.

    And you say “Anaheim” has no cache? It has a lot more cache than “Buffalo” or “Utah”. And not to start a new debate but I’ll say it once and be done with it: Anaheim IS NOT Los Angeles.[/quote]

    No, it isn’t.

    It’s an LA suburb. ;)

  • Scott | October 3, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    ughhh, why does MLB let teams wear those ugly alternate unis in the playoffs? I’m looking at you colorado…

  • Matt B | October 3, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    Sorry I’m late to the team name discussion. I actually think the North American (place name) (team name) teamplate is kinda silly, especially when the place name is an actual political jurisdiction. With the exception of the Packers, do what teams actually have an affiliation with the states / municipalities in their name? It’s not like the City of Chicago owns the Cubs. The NY Jets and Giants play in neither the city nor state of the same name. The G-men don’t even have a NY mailing address.

    Furthermore, as long as the teams are privately owned, they can be moved. The people of Brooklyn thought they had a claim on the Dodgers, but they were proved wrong, no? Baltimore Colts fans no doubt thought the same thing.

    And what about the LA Angels of Anaheim — formerly of Calif. even though they never moved? They’d do the world a favor if they were just The Angels.

    Teams would also do well to drop any “Club” in their official name, since they are not clubs in any meaningful sense of the word.

  • Lake | October 3, 2007 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”152052″]LPGA logo

    I think I did it…

    TA DA…[/quote]
    There’s a lot of junk in that trunk.

  • Matthew S. | October 3, 2007 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”152073″]Sorry I’m late to the team name discussion. I actually think the North American (place name) (team name) teamplate is kinda silly, especially when the place name is an actual political jurisdiction. With the exception of the Packers, do what teams actually have an affiliation with the states / municipalities in their name? It’s not like the City of Chicago owns the Cubs. The NY Jets and Giants play in neither the city nor state of the same name. The G-men don’t even have a NY mailing address.

    Furthermore, as long as the teams are privately owned, they can be moved. The people of Brooklyn thought they had a claim on the Dodgers, but they were proved wrong, no? Baltimore Colts fans no doubt thought the same thing.

    And what about the LA Angels of Anaheim — formerly of Calif. even though they never moved? They’d do the world a favor if they were just The Angels.

    Teams would also do well to drop any “Club” in their official name, since they are not clubs in any meaningful sense of the word.[/quote]

    Shh, don’t give advertisers the idea to change team names like in the MLS….examples, New York Metro became the New York Red Bulls after, who else, Red Bull bought them.

  • Dane | October 3, 2007 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”151948″]maybe you guys can help me.
    im in the process of putting together a cd of the greatest audio in sports.

    i know that once people see what is being submitted, it may spark a memory, so i will post an update every so often

    thanks…[/quote]

    This one is kind of on the edge of what you’re thinking, but one of my favorite sound bites is the old Snickers commercial with the guy painting the endzone at Arrowhead, when his buddy asks, “That’s great, but who are the Chefs?” Once he realized that he left the ‘i’ out and has to redo the job, his response of “Great googly moogly” is part of my lexicon to this day.

  • hott rodd | October 3, 2007 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”152067″]Anyone out there familiar with the Arizona Cardinals local radio color guy. That guy had some amazing lines on Sunday during the game with Pittsburgh, I wish I had written some of them down. The guy sounds like Randy ‘Macho Man’ Savage.[/quote]

    That would be Ron Wolfley.. I wont even start on my hatred for him…

  • Trump1010 | October 3, 2007 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”152076″][quote comment=”152073″]Sorry I’m late to the team name discussion. I actually think the North American (place name) (team name) teamplate is kinda silly, especially when the place name is an actual political jurisdiction. With the exception of the Packers, do what teams actually have an affiliation with the states / municipalities in their name? It’s not like the City of Chicago owns the Cubs. The NY Jets and Giants play in neither the city nor state of the same name. The G-men don’t even have a NY mailing address.

    Furthermore, as long as the teams are privately owned, they can be moved. The people of Brooklyn thought they had a claim on the Dodgers, but they were proved wrong, no? Baltimore Colts fans no doubt thought the same thing.

    And what about the LA Angels of Anaheim — formerly of Calif. even though they never moved? They’d do the world a favor if they were just The Angels.

    Teams would also do well to drop any “Club” in their official name, since they are not clubs in any meaningful sense of the word.[/quote]

    Shh, don’t give advertisers the idea to change team names like in the MLS….examples, New York Metro became the New York Red Bulls after, who else, Red Bull bought them.[/quote]

    Oooo… just imagine it… the AFC Championship Game matching up the Pittsburgh Heinz 57s and the New England Mach 3s

  • Shaftman | October 3, 2007 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”152069″][quote comment=”152051″]Sorry if this has been previously posted

    From TSN

    NHL players will tell you the practice and preseason version of Reebok’s sweater design needs work…. [/quote]

    Got a link for that?[/quote]

    It’s here.

  • emd2k3 | October 3, 2007 at 4:22 pm |

    Did someone say there’s not enough green in MLB?

    Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays Concept

    Meant to evoke Old Florida with the Ray-Ban inspired 50s/60s hand-drawn type and the simple Orange and Green color scheme (you know, for Oranges and all that Everglades stuff.) I’m still tweaking the logo to not look too generic and I was going to work on a secondary (sleeve patch) logo as well as some of the type. Let me know what you think, fellow Uni-Watchers.

  • Perry | October 3, 2007 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”152040″]Oh God. The Rockies are wearing their Ace Frehley vests. they probably now consider them ‘Lucky’ and we’ll be subjected to them until they’re knocked out of the playoffs.[/quote]

    Maybe, but I noticed that for most of the season, they’d wear a uni until they lost, then switch. If they lose today I’ll bet they’ll be in gray pinstripes tomorrow.

  • DenverGregg | October 3, 2007 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”152081″]Did someone say there’s not enough green in MLB?

    Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays Concept

    Meant to evoke Old Florida with the Ray-Ban inspired 50s/60s hand-drawn type and the simple Orange and Green color scheme (you know, for Oranges and all that Everglades stuff.) I’m still tweaking the logo to not look too generic and I was going to work on a secondary (sleeve patch) logo as well as some of the type. Let me know what you think, fellow Uni-Watchers.[/quote]
    Love the lettering!

    Sadly that combo of orange and green – those shades, those proportions – screams “Miami Hurricanes”.

  • dm00n | October 3, 2007 at 4:33 pm |

    Lions WR Roy Williams has changed his stance on tipping pizza guys:

    On his no-tipping policy making national news: “It was the pizza guy. I’m not saying I don’t tip waitresses or anything else. I mean we’re talking about the pizza guy who hands me the pizza and I give him the money. The ironic thing Saturday night I’m heading to the hotel and I stop at a light I never have to stop at, and it was red. And guess who pulls up next to me? Pizza Hut man. I roll my window down, and I say, ‘Pizza dude, how much am I supposed to tip you?’ He said ‘Three, four maybe five dollars.’ And I said, ‘Thank you.’ So now I see it’s three, four maybe five dollars and I’m going to start tipping the pizza man.”

  • dm00n | October 3, 2007 at 4:34 pm |
  • MLB2PDX | October 3, 2007 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”152044″][quote comment=”152041″][quote comment=”152035″][quote comment=”152017″][quote comment=”152014″]A-Rod started wearing his uniform properly this year – any wonder that he’s tearing it up?[/quote]

    huh? properly? He NEVER wears stirrups. Just black or midnight blue or whatever ugly color that is the Yankees wear.[/quote]

    Yes, properly – pants hiked to the knee. You can see the beautiful blue socks. As God intended. ;)[/quote]

    So why no stirrups?[/quote]

    this or this…but not this[/quote]

    While I wish every player wore their pants legs up, I do not see what the fuss is over wearing full socks or stirrups. As long as the pants are up, who cares? Whether it’s socks or stirrups, both date back to different points in the game’s history.

  • Chance | October 3, 2007 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”152088″][quote comment=”152044″][quote comment=”152041″][quote comment=”152035″][quote comment=”152017″][quote comment=”152014″]A-Rod started wearing his uniform properly this year – any wonder that he’s tearing it up?[/quote]

    huh? properly? He NEVER wears stirrups. Just black or midnight blue or whatever ugly color that is the Yankees wear.[/quote]

    Yes, properly – pants hiked to the knee. You can see the beautiful blue socks. As God intended. ;)[/quote]

    So why no stirrups?[/quote]

    this or this…but not this[/quote]

    While I wish every player wore their pants legs up, I do not see what the fuss is over wearing full socks or stirrups. As long as the pants are up, who cares? Whether it’s socks or stirrups, both date back to different points in the game’s history.[/quote]

    Agreed. That’s my take on it: stirrups or full socks, so long as they show a lot of the team color I don’t care. Anything’s better than the pajama look.

  • Pat | October 3, 2007 at 4:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”152081″]Did someone say there’s not enough green in MLB?

    Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays Concept

    Meant to evoke Old Florida with the Ray-Ban inspired 50s/60s hand-drawn type and the simple Orange and Green color scheme (you know, for Oranges and all that Everglades stuff.) I’m still tweaking the logo to not look too generic and I was going to work on a secondary (sleeve patch) logo as well as some of the type. Let me know what you think, fellow Uni-Watchers.[/quote]

    Thoroughly enjoyed that viewing. The type face doesn’t really do anything for me, but I can’t think of another one off the top of my head that would work for the Rays.

    What is on the hat? The forthcoming sleeve patch logo? To me, the sleeve patch should stay with the sting ray they have now, or at incorporate that in there.

    Where did you get a blank uniform template? Or did you clear out an existing one?

  • MLB2PDX | October 3, 2007 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”152089″][quote comment=”152088″][quote comment=”152044″][quote comment=”152041″][quote comment=”152035″][quote comment=”152017″][quote comment=”152014″]A-Rod started wearing his uniform properly this year – any wonder that he’s tearing it up?[/quote]

    huh? properly? He NEVER wears stirrups. Just black or midnight blue or whatever ugly color that is the Yankees wear.[/quote]

    Yes, properly – pants hiked to the knee. You can see the beautiful blue socks. As God intended. ;)[/quote]

    So why no stirrups?[/quote]

    this or this…but not this[/quote]

    While I wish every player wore their pants legs up, I do not see what the fuss is over wearing full socks or stirrups. As long as the pants are up, who cares? Whether it’s socks or stirrups, both date back to different points in the game’s history.[/quote]

    Agreed. That’s my take on it: stirrups or full socks, so long as they show a lot of the team color I don’t care. Anything’s better than the pajama look.[/quote]

    I wore full socks in college, and wear them now in my adult league. In college most of our games were played in 30 degrees or less (no joke, one was even -3!), so I guess I chose full socks since it was easier to double up and keep warm. But yeah, no problem with either look since both are “traditional”. If anything, I definitely prefer the lower stirrup look to the upper (70’s style).

  • djudson333 | October 3, 2007 at 4:47 pm |

    Somebody needs to tell this guy that he needs to update that NFL logo tattoo slightly next year….


    http://i.cnn.net/si/

    Is that a Dallas Cowboys star logo above the NFL shield? That seems out of place.

    I wonder if those are temporary tattoos, the Viking logo on his left bicep looks like it is… and the Cowboy’s star looks fake as well

    he has a 49ers tatoo aswell. Under the NFL logo

  • emd2k3 | October 3, 2007 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”152090″][quote comment=”152081″]Did someone say there’s not enough green in MLB?

    Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays Concept

    Meant to evoke Old Florida with the Ray-Ban inspired 50s/60s hand-drawn type and the simple Orange and Green color scheme (you know, for Oranges and all that Everglades stuff.) I’m still tweaking the logo to not look too generic and I was going to work on a secondary (sleeve patch) logo as well as some of the type. Let me know what you think, fellow Uni-Watchers.[/quote]

    Thoroughly enjoyed that viewing. The type face doesn’t really do anything for me, but I can’t think of another one off the top of my head that would work for the Rays.

    What is on the hat? The forthcoming sleeve patch logo? To me, the sleeve patch should stay with the sting ray they have now, or at incorporate that in there.

    Where did you get a blank uniform template? Or did you clear out an existing one?[/quote]

    Sportslogos.net has existing templates. (I believe they are accessible in the FORUM.) The logo on the hat is the primary logo of the “sunny baseball”. The reason I steered clear of the Devil Ray is just that for some reason the team seems to be going to a “Rays” only approach. (Think more from the sun than from the sea.)

    I agree on the Hurricanes comment, but the PNG is clearly making the orange appear differently, and it’s hard to do a green/orange combo without evoking U of Miami.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | October 3, 2007 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”152052″]LPGA logo

    I think I did it…

    TA DA…[/quote]

    Except the G makes her look like she has a big ass which is good for the past but not so much the future)…! ;)

  • Pat | October 3, 2007 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote]Sportslogos.net has existing templates. (I believe they are accessible in the FORUM.) The logo on the hat is the primary logo of the “sunny baseball”. The reason I steered clear of the Devil Ray is just that for some reason the team seems to be going to a “Rays” only approach. (Think more from the sun than from the sea.)[/quote]

    Nice, I didn’t notice the sunny baseball logo before, I have my window shrunk down so I can hide it from the wandering boss.

    I knew that Tampa Bay was heading more in the direction of the rays from the sun not rays from the sea approach but I was thinking more along the lines of the Athletics or the Reds. You know how the A’s have the shades-clad elephant on the sleeve of their green alts and the Reds have Mr. Red on the sleeve of their red alts. Not that the Devil Ray thing is iconic like they are but I always really liked it. I thought it was a fine piece of logo design.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”152090″][quote comment=”152081″]Did someone say there’s not enough green in MLB?

    Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays Concept

    Meant to evoke Old Florida with the Ray-Ban inspired 50s/60s hand-drawn type and the simple Orange and Green color scheme (you know, for Oranges and all that Everglades stuff.) I’m still tweaking the logo to not look too generic and I was going to work on a secondary (sleeve patch) logo as well as some of the type. Let me know what you think, fellow Uni-Watchers.[/quote]

    Thoroughly enjoyed that viewing. The type face doesn’t really do anything for me, but I can’t think of another one off the top of my head that would work for the Rays.

    What is on the hat? The forthcoming sleeve patch logo? To me, the sleeve patch should stay with the sting ray they have now, or at incorporate that in there.

    Where did you get a blank uniform template? Or did you clear out an existing one?[/quote]
    Seems kind of familiar.

  • Chris Mewett | October 3, 2007 at 5:06 pm |

    The reason I posted the Rangers sponsor black-out yesterday isn’t simply that it didn’t appear; every team sponsored by an alcohol or tobacco brand that visits France wears a blank shirt. What makes this case unique is that Rangers left the entire Carling logo on the shirt and simply blacked out the wordmark. The diagonal black box with red accents is not a part of the Rangers shirt, but of the Carling logo.

  • emd2k3 | October 3, 2007 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”152098″][quote comment=”152090″][quote comment=”152081″]Did someone say there’s not enough green in MLB?

    Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays Concept

    Meant to evoke Old Florida with the Ray-Ban inspired 50s/60s hand-drawn type and the simple Orange and Green color scheme (you know, for Oranges and all that Everglades stuff.) I’m still tweaking the logo to not look too generic and I was going to work on a secondary (sleeve patch) logo as well as some of the type. Let me know what you think, fellow Uni-Watchers.[/quote]

    Thoroughly enjoyed that viewing. The type face doesn’t really do anything for me, but I can’t think of another one off the top of my head that would work for the Rays.

    What is on the hat? The forthcoming sleeve patch logo? To me, the sleeve patch should stay with the sting ray they have now, or at incorporate that in there.

    Where did you get a blank uniform template? Or did you clear out an existing one?[/quote]
    Seems kind of familiar.[/quote]

    Kind of did that on purpose. (You know, cross-promotional marketing and all that.)

  • BWings | October 3, 2007 at 5:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”152095″][quote comment=”152052″]LPGA logo

    I think I did it…

    TA DA…[/quote]

    Except the G makes her look like she has a big ass which is good for the past but not so much the future)…! ;)[/quote]

    Well, I said I wasn’t that good at that sort of thing…but, when the idea strikes. Maybe a smaller G and a larger P?

  • Chris Mewett | October 3, 2007 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”152081″]Did someone say there’s not enough green in MLB?

    Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays Concept

    Meant to evoke Old Florida with the Ray-Ban inspired 50s/60s hand-drawn type and the simple Orange and Green color scheme (you know, for Oranges and all that Everglades stuff.) I’m still tweaking the logo to not look too generic and I was going to work on a secondary (sleeve patch) logo as well as some of the type. Let me know what you think, fellow Uni-Watchers.[/quote]
    I think this is pretty outstanding, though I wonder if there would be any sort of legal issues with the similarity to Ray-Ban’s type. I particularly like the number font. Only change I would suggest is to go green rather than orange on the alt.

  • Chad G | October 3, 2007 at 5:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”152088″][quote comment=”152044″][quote comment=”152041″][quote comment=”152035″][quote comment=”152017″][quote comment=”152014″]A-Rod started wearing his uniform properly this year – any wonder that he’s tearing it up?[/quote]

    huh? properly? He NEVER wears stirrups. Just black or midnight blue or whatever ugly color that is the Yankees wear.[/quote]

    Yes, properly – pants hiked to the knee. You can see the beautiful blue socks. As God intended. ;)[/quote]

    So why no stirrups?[/quote]

    this or this…but not this[/quote]

    While I wish every player wore their pants legs up, I do not see what the fuss is over wearing full socks or stirrups. As long as the pants are up, who cares? Whether it’s socks or stirrups, both date back to different points in the game’s history.[/quote]

    I think solid socks would look much better with some stripage. Perfect example is the Red Sox and the Braves. Both teams had some nice stripes on their stirrups, but when the pajama look took over the stirrups went to the way side. Now in recent years when some players decided to go with high cuffs again they started wearing solid socks. This makes no sense to me, if you can put stripes on stirrups you can put them on regular socks. This is why I currently think the stirrups look better right now when you are going with high cuffs, because there is something going on down there besides a bland solid color.

  • Aaron Scholder | October 3, 2007 at 5:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”151942″][quote comment=”151927″]

    That’s true, but look, London itself has 23 soccer teams of various levels…..having the New York Mets and the New York Yankees, is one thing, but 23 teams called the London______ would be a ridiculous.

    We’ve had teams like the Brooklyn Dodgers named after a part of a large city. It would be possible with London. …[/quote]

    Bronx Yankees
    Brooklyn Dodgers
    Queens Mets[/quote]
    Does anyone else remember the Queens Kings? Info here: http://en.wikipedia....
    I remember going to one game which just happened to be t-shirt day. My brother probably still has it. I always thought the logo was kinda nice, but I can’t find a picture. It was basically the king on a playing card. Anyone else go to a game during their one year?

  • UW justin | October 3, 2007 at 5:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”152107″][quote comment=”151942″][quote comment=”151927″]

    That’s true, but look, London itself has 23 soccer teams of various levels…..having the New York Mets and the New York Yankees, is one thing, but 23 teams called the London______ would be a ridiculous.

    We’ve had teams like the Brooklyn Dodgers named after a part of a large city. It would be possible with London. …[/quote]

    Bronx Yankees
    Brooklyn Dodgers
    Queens Mets[/quote]
    Does anyone else remember the Queens Kings? Info here: http://en.wikipedia....
    I remember going to one game which just happened to be t-shirt day. My brother probably still has it. I always thought the logo was kinda nice, but I can’t find a picture. It was basically the king on a playing card. Anyone else go to a game during their one year?[/quote]

    Logo Here

  • Johnny O | October 3, 2007 at 5:38 pm |

    Paul,

    If you need a replacement for your party headquarters in Brew City, I highly suggest The Safe House in downtown Milwaukee. (It is one of the coolest bars/restaurants I have ever been to. You need a password to get in, and the only entrance has a fake sign for a export company. It is a “Spy themed bar” and it has no advertising what-so-ever. If you don’t know about it, you probably would never find it)

    The other option would be Saz’s by the Miller Brewery. Great ribs, and within a sniff of the great hops at the Brewery.

  • Aaron Scholder | October 3, 2007 at 5:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”151978″]great response so far… here is what was sent
    press conference classics:
    lee elia on the cubs fans
    mike gundy on the newspaper
    brett myers on the retard
    ai on practice
    dennis green on the bears
    hal macrae on george brett
    bobby bonilla and reporter
    dan hawkins on division 1 football

    interview or performance classics:
    carl lewis national anthem
    roseanne national anthem
    ozzy osbourne take me out to the ball game
    shaq dropping an f bomb during post game

    if you guys know if these are online as a wav or mp3, please send the link too…
    or if you know how to transfer the audio on youtube to an mp3, id welcome that tutorial as well.[/quote]
    My favorite was always Bobby Knight’s “game face” press conference. I laugh every time I see it. It’s number 2 in this video: http://www.youtube.c...

  • Aaron Scholder | October 3, 2007 at 5:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”152108″][quote comment=”152107″][quote comment=”151942″][quote comment=”151927″]

    That’s true, but look, London itself has 23 soccer teams of various levels…..having the New York Mets and the New York Yankees, is one thing, but 23 teams called the London______ would be a ridiculous.

    We’ve had teams like the Brooklyn Dodgers named after a part of a large city. It would be possible with London. …[/quote]

    Bronx Yankees
    Brooklyn Dodgers
    Queens Mets[/quote]
    Does anyone else remember the Queens Kings? Info here: http://en.wikipedia....
    I remember going to one game which just happened to be t-shirt day. My brother probably still has it. I always thought the logo was kinda nice, but I can’t find a picture. It was basically the king on a playing card. Anyone else go to a game during their one year?[/quote]

    Logo Here[/quote]
    Thanks.

  • MLB2PDX | October 3, 2007 at 5:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”152106″][quote comment=”152088″][quote comment=”152044″][quote comment=”152041″][quote comment=”152035″][quote comment=”152017″][quote comment=”152014″]A-Rod started wearing his uniform properly this year – any wonder that he’s tearing it up?[/quote]

    huh? properly? He NEVER wears stirrups. Just black or midnight blue or whatever ugly color that is the Yankees wear.[/quote]

    Yes, properly – pants hiked to the knee. You can see the beautiful blue socks. As God intended. ;)[/quote]

    So why no stirrups?[/quote]

    this or this…but not this[/quote]

    While I wish every player wore their pants legs up, I do not see what the fuss is over wearing full socks or stirrups. As long as the pants are up, who cares? Whether it’s socks or stirrups, both date back to different points in the game’s history.[/quote]

    I think solid socks would look much better with some stripage. Perfect example is the Red Sox and the Braves. Both teams had some nice stripes on their stirrups, but when the pajama look took over the stirrups went to the way side. Now in recent years when some players decided to go with high cuffs again they started wearing solid socks. This makes no sense to me, if you can put stripes on stirrups you can put them on regular socks. This is why I currently think the stirrups look better right now when you are going with high cuffs, because there is something going on down there besides a bland solid color.[/quote]

    True, in certain cases stripes would look good, but not all though (LAD, NYY, PHI, CIN, etc.). But at the same time, the solid sock is the more traditional look if you go ‘way back’. I guess I was just saying that I don’t see a problem with either. All I know is I do not like the baggy look at all and if someone wants to shy away from that, in any way, then kudos to them.

  • Dave Soline | October 3, 2007 at 5:56 pm |

    I was watching the Phillies-Rockies game and they showed a Colorado pitcher (did not see who it was, I just glanced over)warming up. He poured his Gatorade (it appeared) down the front of his jersey. Am I the only one to notice? That would be a foreign substance if there ever was. Can anyone get a screen grab?

  • Dan | October 3, 2007 at 5:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”152103″][quote comment=”152081″]Did someone say there’s not enough green in MLB?

    Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays Concept

    Meant to evoke Old Florida with the Ray-Ban inspired 50s/60s hand-drawn type and the simple Orange and Green color scheme (you know, for Oranges and all that Everglades stuff.) I’m still tweaking the logo to not look too generic and I was going to work on a secondary (sleeve patch) logo as well as some of the type. Let me know what you think, fellow Uni-Watchers.[/quote]
    I think this is pretty outstanding, though I wonder if there would be any sort of legal issues with the similarity to Ray-Ban’s type. I particularly like the number font. Only change I would suggest is to go green rather than orange on the alt.[/quote]

    Is that not sweet or what? The only change I would make is use a green font for the home lettering versus orange.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 6:01 pm |

    I don’t know who this TBS announcer on the Phillies game is but he sounds exactly like Sean McDonough. Only its not Sean McDonough.

  • geraldo | October 3, 2007 at 6:19 pm |

    Hey Paul

    I think the Mexican Pro Soccer League (Apertara) used pink balls in their matches on Sunday

    gm

  • Mike | October 3, 2007 at 6:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”152117″]I was watching the Phillies-Rockies game and they showed a Colorado pitcher (did not see who it was, I just glanced over)warming up. He poured his Gatorade (it appeared) down the front of his jersey. Am I the only one to notice? That would be a foreign substance if there ever was. Can anyone get a screen grab?[/quote]
    I saw it. It was Manny Corpas…and I assume it was just water cooling him down.

  • Jason | October 3, 2007 at 6:46 pm |

    I know Im a bit late on this, but that Peter Pan site is the most disturbing/hilarious thing I have ever seen. I spent 20 minutes on that site, praying that no one walked into my office while I was doing so. Maybe Paul should do a Profile on this guy and his love for uniforms (are you kidding me with the school boy/girl uni’s??)

  • howie | October 3, 2007 at 6:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”152119″]I don’t know who this TBS announcer on the Phillies game is but he sounds exactly like Sean McDonough. Only its not Sean McDonough.[/quote]
    It is Don Orcillo, the Red Sox play by play guy on NESN

  • Mike | October 3, 2007 at 6:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”152040″]Oh God. The Rockies are wearing their Ace Frehley vests. they probably now consider them ‘Lucky’ and we’ll be subjected to them until they’re knocked out of the playoffs.[/quote]

    They’ve done it all year. For sure tommorrow, then if they win tommorrow game 3,and if they lose the white vest with black sleeves. Or maybe they’ll say f*** the world and wear the Purples.

  • ThresherK | October 3, 2007 at 6:54 pm |

    “Boston sports fans know that in his dotage, Tommy Heinsohn has become a reliable source of hilarious rants directed at NBA officials.”

    Compared to the cerebral and even-handed Johnny Most?

    Oh, one more footie naming trad: South America, home of “River of January”, has many clubs named after famous dates/months.

  • Chris Mewett | October 3, 2007 at 7:00 pm |

    The TBS play-by-play guy on Sox-Angels (whoever’s working with Steve Stone) just complained about pine tar obscuring batting helmet logos (specifically Manny and Cabrera). He noted that if he became commissioner, his first rule change would be to require teams to polish helmets for the playoffs.

  • Paul Lukas | October 3, 2007 at 7:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”152111″]Paul,

    If you need a replacement for your party headquarters in Brew City, I highly suggest The Safe House in downtown Milwaukee. (It is one of the coolest bars/restaurants I have ever been to. You need a password to get in, and the only entrance has a fake sign for a export company. It is a “Spy themed bar” and it has no advertising what-so-ever. If you don’t know about it, you probably would never find it)

    The other option would be Saz’s by the Miller Brewery. Great ribs, and within a sniff of the great hops at the Brewery.[/quote]

    My #2 Milwaukee tavern (and now I guess moving up to #1) is Holler House.

  • Greg | October 3, 2007 at 7:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”152081″]Did someone say there’s not enough green in MLB?

    Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays Concept

    Meant to evoke Old Florida with the Ray-Ban inspired 50s/60s hand-drawn type and the simple Orange and Green color scheme (you know, for Oranges and all that Everglades stuff.) I’m still tweaking the logo to not look too generic and I was going to work on a secondary (sleeve patch) logo as well as some of the type. Let me know what you think, fellow Uni-Watchers.[/quote]

    I really like it, well done. My only suggestion is to switch the orange and green on the home jersey. And make the alternate green. It would easily become one of the best uni’s in baseball if it got taken seriously and Tampa used them. I can only hope some staffer stumbles upon this and someone with some power in that organization realizes they’re about to make a mistake.

  • Brian | October 3, 2007 at 7:30 pm |

    The Blazers have a pretty good reason for their Headband ban. During the JailBlazers days, the headband was something that pretty much everyone on the team wore, well, at least Bonzi Wells and Sheed. A local radio station even released a song called “Can I Get a Headband?”. When we got Coach McMillan, he banned headbands as a mark of a new, trouble free era. Its worked so far.

  • Eric B. | October 3, 2007 at 7:58 pm |

    I’m guessing this is something Willie Randolph won’t be sporting under his jersey next season:

  • Eric B. | October 3, 2007 at 8:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”152137″]I’m guessing this is something Willie Randolph won’t be sporting under his jersey next season:[/quote]

    Curses! Thwarted by technology again. Here’s the link:

    http://www.tshirthel...

  • dm00n | October 3, 2007 at 8:23 pm |

    … if you can put stripes on stirrups you can put them on regular socks.

    Old-timers rocked stripes too.

    I can’t tell if this Washington player is wearing shoes that are light colored or just dusty. I wish there was a color version of that shot.

  • Johnny O | October 3, 2007 at 8:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”152132″][quote comment=”152111″]Paul,

    If you need a replacement for your party headquarters in Brew City, I highly suggest The Safe House in downtown Milwaukee. (It is one of the coolest bars/restaurants I have ever been to. You need a password to get in, and the only entrance has a fake sign for a export company. It is a “Spy themed bar” and it has no advertising what-so-ever. If you don’t know about it, you probably would never find it)

    The other option would be Saz’s by the Miller Brewery. Great ribs, and within a sniff of the great hops at the Brewery.[/quote]

    My #2 Milwaukee tavern (and now I guess moving up to #1) is Holler House.[/quote]
    I have been there as well. An excellent choice.
    Hell, if it was up to me I would just meet at the .300 club at Miller Park. Gosh, I love Miller Park. I am sad it won’t be used for Brewers baseball for seven months. I’m gonna go find a corner and pout in.
    *sigh*…99 years of losing and the Cubs have to be good just when the Crew are doing something special. The Brewers have not made the playoffs in 25 years. Now, I don’t know for sure, but that has to be the longest non-playoff drought in baseball history…or at least the current longest one. Any help with that? I wouldn’t have the slightest idea where to start looking.

  • Jason G. | October 3, 2007 at 9:36 pm |

    It might be too late for anyone to see this, but this is by far the most ridiculous New Era hat that I have seen. I believe it tops any of the ones that have previously been posted.

  • Stevo | October 3, 2007 at 9:41 pm |

    The Brewers have not made the playoffs in 25 years. Now, I don’t know for sure, but that has to be the longest non-playoff drought in baseball history…or at least the current longest one. Any help with that? I wouldn’t have the slightest idea where to start looking.

    According to baseball-reference.com the Montreal Expos/Washington Nationals have one year on the Brew Crew, having made their only postseason appearance in 1981.

  • subway | October 3, 2007 at 9:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”151989″]what about jim mora…”PLAYOFFS? your talking about PLAYOFFS? we will be lucky if we win another game.”[/quote]

    I liked the one where he criticized Saint fans for cheering an injury:

    “It was DISGUSTING!
    It was DEGRADING!
    It was DEPLORABLE!
    It was HORRIBLE!
    It was APPALLING!”
    -and many others. I saw it on local news but I’ve never been able to find it on the Net.

  • Terri | October 3, 2007 at 9:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”152145″]It might be too late for anyone to see this, but this is by far the most ridiculous New Era hat that I have seen. I believe it tops any of the ones that have previously been posted.[/quote]

    Oh man. When the window first game up and i saw the top half of the the , i thought “oh, thats not that bad, kind of cool.” Then I scrolled down and saw the rest…omg. That should be a crime.

  • Stevo | October 3, 2007 at 9:51 pm |

    My only question is, does it come in Cleveland Indians? Considering the weather they had in April, that kind of hat would’ve sold out in minutes.

  • Dave A | October 3, 2007 at 9:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”152148″][quote comment=”152145″]It might be too late for anyone to see this, but this is by far the most ridiculous New Era hat that I have seen. I believe it tops any of the ones that have previously been posted.[/quote]

    Oh man. When the window first game up and i saw the top half of the the , i thought “oh, thats not that bad, kind of cool.” Then I scrolled down and saw the rest…omg. That should be a crime.[/quote]

    As are almost all the caps on that page.

  • Kerry | October 3, 2007 at 9:52 pm |

    **********ATTENTION**********

    I’m not sure if this was mentioned, so forgive me if it has been. But I know there were at least a few inquiries about the auction of the special unis that LSU wore this past weekend against Tulane.

    The school announced that they will auction off a limited number of COMPLETE LSU COMMEMORATIVE UNIFORMS – 10 to be exact. the only change made to the unis is that the names have been removed due to NCAA regulations.

    This means you can get a white helmet, purple jersey w/ special sleeve patch and white pants. The auctions start TONIGHT at midnight (1am EDT) and will end next Wednesday, October 11. Prospective bidders can go to LSUAuction.net to bid.

    Personally, I would KILL to have one…unfortunately, I think they will be bid up way too far for me.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 10:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”152148″][quote comment=”152145″]It might be too late for anyone to see this, but this is by far the most ridiculous New Era hat that I have seen. I believe it tops any of the ones that have previously been posted.[/quote]

    Oh man. When the window first game up and i saw the top half of the the , i thought “oh, thats not that bad, kind of cool.” Then I scrolled down and saw the rest…omg. That should be a crime.[/quote]
    The blue cap and red cap will probably be worn while committing crimes.

  • Jonee | October 3, 2007 at 10:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”151927″]

    That’s true, but look, London itself has 23 soccer teams of various levels…..having the New York Mets and the New York Yankees, is one thing, but 23 teams called the London______ would be a ridiculous.

    We’ve had teams like the Brooklyn Dodgers named after a part of a large city. It would be possible with London.[/quote]

    Brooklyn was an independent city when the Dodgers were founded. This is how New York ended up with two National League teams (Giants and Dodgers) after Brooklyn was annexed into NYC.

  • Stevo | October 3, 2007 at 11:08 pm |

    Many English football organizations are called “clubs” because they are more than one team. You might have your top Pro side, but you’ll also have any number of junior teams as well under the same umbrella. Also, look at the dictionary definition of club: a group of persons organized for a social, literary, athletic, political, or other purpose.

    However, I do have a problem with American teams using certain terms in their team names that really mean nothing on this side of the pond (FC, Real), but yet I have no problem with “select” teams calling themselves “United”, because the term is relevant when you have players from all parts of a state on one team.

  • joe | October 3, 2007 at 11:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”151893″]
    That’s true, but look, London itself has 23 soccer teams of various levels…..having the New York Mets and the New York Yankees, is one thing, but 23 teams called the London______ would be a ridiculous.[/quote]
    the key is of various levels. There are more than 2 baseball teams in/near chicago if you count the various levels of minors. How many top level teams are there? 3 or 4 I guess? you could have the london hammers and london arsenal ect.

  • Cornellian | October 3, 2007 at 11:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”152143″] The Brewers have not made the playoffs in 25 years. Now, I don’t know for sure, but that has to be the longest non-playoff drought in baseball history…or at least the current longest one. Any help with that? I wouldn’t have the slightest idea where to start looking.[/quote]

    Absolutely without doubt not the longest in history. Consider for a moment that the playoffs have only included 8 teams for 13 seasons now. Back in the 2 and 4 team years, there were much longer non-playoff streaks. Cleveland went 1954-1995 without postseason play. The Cubs went ’45-’84. The list goes on. It’s unlikely we’ll see such streaks in the future since the field has grown (consider that ’06-’07 15 different teams have made the postseason. Half the league. In the NL only the Expos/Nats, Brewers, Pirates, and Reds have failed to make the field since about ’02. 12/16 in 5 years is pretty good).

  • Monte | October 3, 2007 at 11:34 pm |

    is anyone seeing what the guy behind the batters in the az chc game is wearing? it’s absurd. itlooks like that old nike undershirt with the different color sleeve. but there’s also a fair amount of glitter on the shirt giving it a “wife beater” effect.

  • Stuby | October 3, 2007 at 11:42 pm |

    There was a woman behind home plate in Philly wearing a powder blue Phillies throwback jersey with Utley 26 on the back. I don’t understand the throwback jersey featuring a current player. The powder blue looked great, though. Just would have looked better as a Tug McGraw or Mike Schmidt jersey.

  • Stevo | October 4, 2007 at 12:01 am |

    Was the woman old enough to have seen Tug or Mike in that jersey?

  • Patrick | October 4, 2007 at 12:04 am |

    [quote comment=”151948″]maybe you guys can help me.
    im in the process of putting together a cd of the greatest audio in sports.

    press conference classics:
    lee elia
    mike gundy
    brett myers
    AI on practice

    interview or performance classics:
    carl lewis singing the national anthem

    i have those so far…
    perhaps you guys remember some that fit these categories, or one that would be in another category.

    please send to
    sportsaudiocd@yahoo.com
    id love your input…

    i know that once people see what is being submitted, it may spark a memory, so i will post an update every so often

    thanks…[/quote]
    Anything by Jim Mora, Sr. back when he coached the Saints. “Playoffs?! I just hope we can win a game!!”

    P.S: Who forgot to close the bold tag?

  • Stuby | October 4, 2007 at 12:07 am |

    [quote comment=”152170″]Was the woman old enough to have seen Tug or Mike in that jersey?[/quote]
    She appeared to be about 30, but if you are a fan of a team you should know its history.

  • Stevo | October 4, 2007 at 12:09 am |

    I thought “Playoffs” was when he was with the Colts, and I think I might have something to do with the bold, though I remember closing the tag it happened after I posted.

  • Chris Mewett | October 4, 2007 at 12:47 am |

    [quote comment=”152158″][quote comment=”151893″]
    That’s true, but look, London itself has 23 soccer teams of various levels…..having the New York Mets and the New York Yankees, is one thing, but 23 teams called the London______ would be a ridiculous.[/quote]
    the key is of various levels. There are more than 2 baseball teams in/near chicago if you count the various levels of minors. How many top level teams are there? 3 or 4 I guess? you could have the london hammers and london arsenal ect.[/quote]
    This is silly, and wrong.

    For one thing, English football involves relegation and promotion, which means that any one or all of those London teams could play in the same division at the same time.

    But more importantly, why in the world should these clubs change their naming conventions? Why is it “more normal” that teams should be identified as the [Geographic identifier] [plural noun], especially when many European football clubs have been in existence for much, much longer than the “conventionally-named” American teams? Would you prefer names like Miami Heat or Minnesota Wild to traditional football club names like FC Arsenal, FC Internazionale Milano, or Newcastle United FC? Does it make more sense that baseball teams should have to be identified as NYY/NYM and NYA/NYN or CHC/CHW and CHN/CHA? That doesn’t seem goofier to you than a league table that can simply list club names, because none of them are the same?

    This whole argument reeks of American exceptionalism and arrogance, and that’s coming from an American. It’s ridiculous.

  • PhilliesGirl | October 4, 2007 at 1:53 am |

    [quote comment=”152081″]Did someone say there’s not enough green in MLB?

    Tampa Bay (Devil) Rays Concept

    Meant to evoke Old Florida with the Ray-Ban inspired 50s/60s hand-drawn type and the simple Orange and Green color scheme (you know, for Oranges and all that Everglades stuff.) I’m still tweaking the logo to not look too generic and I was going to work on a secondary (sleeve patch) logo as well as some of the type. Let me know what you think, fellow Uni-Watchers.[/quote]

    The sun/baseball logo is nice, but it strangely resembles the logo of the Hagerstown Suns…

  • Brendan | October 4, 2007 at 2:24 am |

    Unless you are recreating a period jersey, the green on the Celtic card is WAY too dark for the current uniforms. It’s more like a kelly green or an emerald green. The jerseys are very vibrant in person.

  • Brendan | October 4, 2007 at 2:36 am |

    Something more like this color would be more accurate: here

  • dm00n | October 4, 2007 at 2:50 am |

    The new jerseys are unpopular with the Red Wings too.

    (Same sweat complaints, Datsyuk “jokes” that he wears an oversized Edge jersey)

  • dm00n | October 4, 2007 at 3:00 am |

    Another Red Wings item panning the Edge system:

    “The guy who designed the jerseys hasn’t played hockey,” said Chris Chelios , who isn’t thrilled with the jerseys or the new socks.

  • tc | October 4, 2007 at 3:28 am |

    [quote comment=”152162″]There was a woman behind home plate in Philly wearing a powder blue Phillies throwback jersey with Utley 26 on the back. I don’t understand the throwback jersey featuring a current player. The powder blue looked great, though. Just would have looked better as a Tug McGraw or Mike Schmidt jersey.[/quote]

    The Utley throwback jerseys were a free giveaway. They’re really cheap looking close up, and have a Chevy logo or something on the back above the name. I can understand it because they wore the blue jerseys for a throwback game. What really bothers me is a Richie Ashburn powder blue jersey. WTF?

  • Mark in Shiga | October 4, 2007 at 9:09 am |

    [quote comment=”152178″]
    This whole argument reeks of American exceptionalism and arrogance, and that’s coming from an American. It’s ridiculous.[/quote]

    Oh boy, here we go again. American exceptionalism?

    Back in the 1850s and 1860s there was a much greater variety in how team names were rendered. “Cincinnati Red Stockings” and “Troy Haymakers”, but also “Mutual of New York”, Kekionga of Fort Wayne”, “Lord Baltimores”, etc.

    Until the early 1900s nicknames were unofficial and changed frequently. The Cubs and Braves official names, for example, are “Chicago National League Ball Club” and “Atlanta National League Baseball Club”, respectively.

    So it’s the city names that matter most. Nicknames came and went, but the team remmained in the same city.

    It’s not just the US that emphasizes geogrphay — when the J-League was formed in the early 1990s, it was deemed important that teams have local support and not be seen as coroprate entities. Thus all the teams have names that incorporate the places where they play. As a fan, I vastly prefer “Gamba Osaka” and “Kyoto Purple Sanga” over any company name, and I like knowing where the teams play.

  • Chris Mewett | October 4, 2007 at 9:52 am |

    Mark — My point wasn’t to say that American teams have always used the same naming convention, only to say that Americans expecting everyone else to change to what seems “normal” here is ludicrous.

    I appreciate what you’re saying about the effort to distance from corporate ownership and all the rest, but most British football clubs aren’t corporate-owned. As far as geographical identifiers, I kind of enjoy the process of learning about a club’s location and history, especially considering that I don’t always know where exactly a particular team plays EVEN when they have a city in their name!

    Anyway, the point wasn’t to dog America, only to argue that a little diversity never hurt anybody. Manchester United FC is fine with me, but so is Blackburn Rovers FC (more than fine — they’re my club!).

  • Kerry | October 4, 2007 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”152176″]I thought “Playoffs” was when he was with the Colts, and I think I might have something to do with the bold, though I remember closing the tag it happened after I posted.[/quote]
    It was.

  • joe | October 4, 2007 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”152178″][quote comment=”152158″][quote comment=”151893″]
    That’s true, but look, London itself has 23 soccer teams of various levels…..having the New York Mets and the New York Yankees, is one thing, but 23 teams called the London______ would be a ridiculous.[/quote]
    the key is of various levels. There are more than 2 baseball teams in/near chicago if you count the various levels of minors. How many top level teams are there? 3 or 4 I guess? you could have the london hammers and london arsenal ect.[/quote]
    This is silly, and wrong.

    For one thing, English football involves relegation and promotion, which means that any one or all of those London teams could play in the same division at the same time.

    But more importantly, why in the world should these clubs change their naming conventions? Why is it “more normal” that teams should be identified as the [Geographic identifier] [plural noun], especially when many European football clubs have been in existence for much, much longer than the “conventionally-named” American teams? Would you prefer names like Miami Heat or Minnesota Wild to traditional football club names like FC Arsenal, FC Internazionale Milano, or Newcastle United FC? Does it make more sense that baseball teams should have to be identified as NYY/NYM and NYA/NYN or CHC/CHW and CHN/CHA? That doesn’t seem goofier to you than a league table that can simply list club names, because none of them are the same?

    This whole argument reeks of American exceptionalism and arrogance, and that’s coming from an American. It’s ridiculous.[/quote]

    Well, you can ask anyone whos not a basketball fan where the chicago bulls play and I’m pretty sure they guess chicago. If you ask a person in south afrika where the Los angeles Kings play they might be able to figure out its LA. if you ask a non soccer fan where FC Arsenal plays they won’t have a clue, they might guess europe, but thats kinda big, then again maybe its fort collins colorado.

  • Portland Web Designer | October 4, 2007 at 6:34 pm |

    Despite the missing E, I think history has shown there is nothing defective with Belichick’s equipment.

  • Drew | October 4, 2007 at 9:48 pm |

    I don’t know if this has been posted but there is a guy that is sitting behind the yankees dugout had a pink Indians hat on in the first couple of innings, but has since switched to a yellow and red Indians hat.

  • emd2k3 | October 5, 2007 at 5:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”152649″]I don’t know if this has been posted but there is a guy that is sitting behind the yankees dugout had a pink Indians hat on in the first couple of innings, but has since switched to a yellow and red Indians hat.[/quote]

    He does this every game. There’s a pattern.