Future Shock Schlock Smock

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Remember back in July when I wrote about the “futuristic” Royals/Mariners game from 1998, which led to all the similarly themed games in 1999? I’m happy to announce that one of the game-used Royals jerseys from that game is now in my possession. And within a week, one of you will have it in your possession.

I’ll get to the jersey in a minute. But first, that entry back in July led to a lot of interesting responses regarding that futuristic game, beginning with a missive from Mariners marketing VP Kevin Martinez, who’s a regular Uni Watch reader. He corrected one of my points (I had written that the umps wore their regular uniforms, but Martinez noted that they actually had metallic silver shirts) and then provided some backgound info:

It was Ken Griffey Jr.’s decision to wear the jerseys untucked and caps backward. Junior also spray-painted several teammates’ shoes and gloves silver. The uniforms, while certainly bold, got even more out of control when our players decided to cut the sleeves off the undershirts. The photo of Dan Wilson, who did not cut his sleeves, is a better representation of how the unis were supposed to look.

Our intent with the promotion was to simply to do something fun for one of our 81 home games and try something that had never been done. We drew over 42,000 for a game against the Royals — a fairly successful promotion. MLB took the idea and sold it to Century 21 the next season. We did not participate at home, only on the road. We did it once in ’98 and we were done with it.

Working in this game for 16 seasons now, it remains one the most memorable (and strangest) nights in my career. Watching the players in the clubhouse alter their jerseys and spray-paint shoes and gloves is something I will never forget … or repeat.

Reader Tim Conley offered some additional recollections:

I actually watched that game live. The M’s did wear their jerseys untucked for awhile, but [Royals manager] Tony Muser complained to the umpires and eventually got the umps to force Seattle to tuck in their jerseys. His reasoning was that an M batting with his jersey untucked was more easily hit by a pitch and could earn a cheap trip to first base.

But the most intriguing response came from my ESPN.com colleague (and massive Royals fan) Rob Neyer. Not only had he attended the game, but he’d bid on — and won — one of the Royals jerseys that were auctioned off after the game. “It’s just been hanging in my closet ever since,” he wrote, “and it’s so Godawful-ugly that I really don’t know why I still have it.” Then, in an incredibly magnanimous gesture, he offered to donate the jersey for me to raffle off, as long as I let him write a small accompanying essay. This is sort of like saying, “I’ll do this really nice thing for you, but only if you also let me do this other really nice thing.” So course I said yes. With no further ado, I hereby turn the floor over to Rob:

    Ah, the summer of 1998. I was crazy in love, I wasn’t burdened with a job that occupied a great deal of my time, and, for perhaps the first time in my adult life, I was blessed with a small bit of discretionary income.

    I was living in Seattle then. It was the 18th of July, and the Royals were in town. The Royals were my team. For that game, the Mariners came up with what they called “Turn Ahead to the Future” — 2027, supposedly — and the most visible feature would be “futuristic” uniforms. And I have to say, from my perch in the upper deck the Royals’ jerseys really didn’t look so bad. They were sleeveless, which I’ve always liked, and nicely complemented by coordinated undershirts. I don’t mind canary yellow when it’s accompanied by Royal blue. So you’ll understand why I bid $75 on Jose Rosado‘s jersey.

    Why Rosado? Because I didn’t figure I could afford Johnny Damon’s jersey, and because I didn’t know just how good Sal Fasano would someday become (yes, that’s a joke). Rosado, meanwhile, was only 23, and just one year earlier he’d been Kansas City’s lone All-Star. On a generally boring, veteran-laden team, Rosado was one of the few interesting players.

    So I bid on Rosado’s jersey, as well as that of coach Frank White (a reminder of better seasons). Then I waited. A few weeks later, a notice arrived in the mail: I had won! A check was dispatched, and soon a package arrived.

    OMFG. Trust me: As bad as those jerseys might look in the photos, when you’re holding one in your hands it looks much, much worse. Oh, there’s nothing terribly wrong with the basic design, especially if you’re not averse to bright yellow and Royal blue. But what I couldn’t see from my upper-deck perch was that all the emblems and numbers on the jerseys were ironed on, just like cheap T-shirts. I couldn’t see that the fabric was some beastly synthetic not designed for laying against one’s skin [that would be nylon Dazzle, more commonly found in the NBA — PL]. What I also didn’t know is that my $75 didn’t get me the Royal blue undershirt. And let me tell you, without the undershirt the jersey was not only unwearable, but practically unbearable, too.

    Which I suppose is why it’s not been worn since the 18th of July, and instead rested on a hanger in various closets — Seattle, Boston, Seattle again, and finally Portland — for nearly a decade. If you enter the raffle, I wish you only the best of luck. But I have to say something I wish somebody’d said to me, way back in the summer of ’98: caveat victor.

Rob’s being a little too harsh there. For starters, while most of the graphics are indeed screen-printed (including, ugh, a replica-esque Majestic logo on the back), the numbers and “ROSADO” lettering are sewn, not screened. And hey, it doesn’t look so ba – okay, yes it does. But in a cool, “so bad it’s good” sort of way. It’s tagged as a size 44, but it fits bigger than that (it fit nicely on Uni Watch design director Scott M.X. Turner, who’s a 48).

This fine garment — a one-of-a-kind artifact from one of baseball’s oddest chapters — is being raffled off as of right now. To enter, send an e-mail to uniraffle at earthlink dot net (please note that this is not the usual Uni Watch address) by next Tuesday night, October, 2nd, at 10 p.m. eastern. One e-mail per person, please, but everyone enrolled in the Uni Watch membership program at the time of the drawing will automatically get three bonus entries (and if ever there was a good reason to sign up, this raffle is it). I’ll announce the winner a week from today.

Big thanks to Rob for his generosity, and good luck to all raffle entrants. I hope you’re as jazzed about this as I am.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Japanese throwback jerseys are now available here (with thanks to Eric Stangel). … Lots of good non-wire-service pics of the Eagles’ throwbacks here. … Nice little gallery of Schutt Ion pics here. Not sure what school that is, but I’m sure lots of you folks do (with thanks to Matt Olson). … Iowa State will unveil its new uniforms today. A little birdie tells me that none of these helmets made the cut. … We’ve talked many times about how an American flag sleeve patch should always be positioned with the blue field facing forward. Some teams get this wrong, but you wouldn’t expect one of them to be the Air Force Academy women’s soccer team (with thanks to Frank Mercogliano). … The 49ers have signed Michael Lewis. Thing is, as David Robins notes, they already have another Michael Lewis (plus Keith Lewis), which should make for an interesting nameplate decision. Last time I can remember this happening was when the Mets had two Bobby Joneses a few years back. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Great Bruins goalie mask photo gallery here. Be sure to click through to the last image, which shows Gerry Cheevers wearing a Massachusetts Bicentennial patch. … Speaking of which, comments section stalwart Teebz has a great series of NHL patch roundups on his blog — look here, here, and here. … Decent NHL uni-history gallery here, including one of the best Cooperalls shots ever. … … Jere Smith reports that the Fenway 8 is back, and is now right-side up! … Did you know American Indians have a distinctive foot shape? Nike did (as jointly spotted by Vince and Minna H.).

 

256 comments to Future Shock Schlock Smock

  • David Arnott | September 26, 2007 at 8:45 am |

    Michael M. Lewis was already there, and that’s how his name will be on his plate, right?

    Michael L. Lewis is the new guy.

  • Eric | September 26, 2007 at 8:50 am |

    I went to the game at Fenway last night and the 8 is back! And right side up! Sadly, I didn’t have a camera with me.

  • JohnC | September 26, 2007 at 8:55 am |

    Iowa State should permanently wear those throwbacks that they wore a few weeks ago…those were awesome!

  • Big Mike | September 26, 2007 at 9:00 am |

    Paul, obviously ESPN is already confused about the dueling Michael Lewis’ as their player profile for the pre-exisitng Michael Lewis (the safety formerly of the Eagles) shows a picture of the NEW Michael Lewis (the beer delivering kick returner formerly of the Saints).

  • Don | September 26, 2007 at 9:03 am |

    A big thumbs up for the Ion. Much better looking than the other newfangled helmet designs.

    BTW, anyone know when the Maxpro helmets were outlawed? I wore one my senior year of high school (and lived to tell about it.) I wore a Rawlings my junior year…probably wasn’t terribly protective, but it sure was comfortable.

  • Joey Guns | September 26, 2007 at 9:05 am |

    I was away for a week or so

    Has this been posted yet?

    “What Not To Wear To Yankee Stadium”:

    http://popjocks.com/...

  • Joey Guns | September 26, 2007 at 9:06 am |

    Baseball Barry Bonds hit for home run No. 756 to be branded with an asterisk

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • dgc | September 26, 2007 at 9:17 am |

    Not only a rare (game worn?) jersey, but owned by ESPN’s Rob Neyer and modeled by ESPN’s Paul Lukas! That ought to make an interesting Ebay description.

    BTW the Caps played in their white jerseys at home last night, supposedly so they can keep the premiere of their red jerseys for the home opener.

  • Team C. | September 26, 2007 at 9:18 am |

    I was watching the Eagles game the other day – there was some action that spilled over to the sidelines.
    The camera caught a shot of some sideline official (?) wearing standard-issue NFL gear and what appeared to be an elbow-length bright orange oven mitt. He was waving his hands in a circular motion.
    I figured that he had something to do with the broadcast, but not sure.
    No screen grab.. any ideas what the significance of the oven mitt is?

  • todd krevanchi | September 26, 2007 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment=”148132″]Baseball Barry Bonds hit for home run No. 756 to be branded with an asterisk

    http://sports.yahoo....

    well, at least it is going to be in the hall of fame. it would have been a shame if the people voted it to be destroyed.
    i voted for it to be donated as is. i feel that anything other than the appropriate labeling or autograph is defacing an article that should be in the HOF anyway.

  • Pat | September 26, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”148140″][quote comment=”148132″]Baseball Barry Bonds hit for home run No. 756 to be branded with an asterisk

    http://sports.yahoo....

    well, at least it is going to be in the hall of fame. it would have been a shame if the people voted it to be destroyed.
    i voted for it to be donated as is. i feel that anything other than the appropriate labeling or autograph is defacing an article that should be in the HOF anyway.[/quote]

    I agree,
    whether or not it is a “tainted” record, it’s still a record and if it’s going to go to the hall of fame it should go in as is.

    Although, I will give Marc Ecko credit this was a very cool idea.

  • steve | September 26, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”148138″]I was watching the Eagles game the other day – there was some action that spilled over to the sidelines.
    The camera caught a shot of some sideline official (?) wearing standard-issue NFL gear and what appeared to be an elbow-length bright orange oven mitt. He was waving his hands in a circular motion.
    I figured that he had something to do with the broadcast, but not sure.
    No screen grab.. any ideas what the significance of the oven mitt is?[/quote]

    So he can be seen in the sideline crowd.

  • Mark | September 26, 2007 at 9:35 am |

    I love how everyone on Fox, NBC, and ESPN was trashing those Eagles uniforms. It was on of their top stories. I didn’t really care for them either, but it was more becaus i was longing for them to Bendarik-era jersey. Plus, I still hold out hope that the black alternates will be shelved in favor of the kelly green and silver.

  • Jason G. | September 26, 2007 at 9:37 am |

    [quote comment=”148140″][quote comment=”148132″]Baseball Barry Bonds hit for home run No. 756 to be branded with an asterisk

    http://sports.yahoo....

    well, at least it is going to be in the hall of fame. it would have been a shame if the people voted it to be destroyed.
    i voted for it to be donated as is. i feel that anything other than the appropriate labeling or autograph is defacing an article that should be in the HOF anyway.[/quote]

    I voted for the asterisk. That being said there’s some debate on whether the HOF will take it with the asterisk. They originally said they wouldn’t but apparently have talked to Ecko about it.

    This is also quite possibly the greatest marketing scheme ever. Ecko got so much publicity out of this it was well worth what he paid for the ball whether it goes into the hall or not.

  • Stuby | September 26, 2007 at 9:38 am |

    Weren’t those 3 Iowa State helmets the only choices offered to voters? Why do I have a feeling they let Nike design their new look instead.

  • Pat | September 26, 2007 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”148146″][quote comment=”148140″][quote comment=”148132″]Baseball Barry Bonds hit for home run No. 756 to be branded with an asterisk

    http://sports.yahoo....

    well, at least it is going to be in the hall of fame. it would have been a shame if the people voted it to be destroyed.
    i voted for it to be donated as is. i feel that anything other than the appropriate labeling or autograph is defacing an article that should be in the HOF anyway.[/quote]

    I voted for the asterisk. That being said there’s some debate on whether the HOF will take it with the asterisk. They originally said they wouldn’t but apparently have talked to Ecko about it.

    This is also quite possibly the greatest marketing scheme ever. Ecko got so much publicity out of this it was well worth what he paid for the ball whether it goes into the hall or not.[/quote]

    Marc Ecko isn’t struggling for money. But you’re right, this will make him a lot more. Now people, if they didn’t know about him before, will associate him with the branding of the ball.

  • Joe Drennan | September 26, 2007 at 9:40 am |

    In the SI hockey jersey gallery I noticed that the newer version of the skating Penguine is skating with his head up, while the original is looking at the puck. Now that’s a nice attention to detail!

  • Team C. | September 26, 2007 at 9:41 am |

    So he can be seen in the sideline crowd.

    Clearly, but what’s the job title/description for this guy?
    And is it an officially licensed NFL Equipment Reebok oven-mitt?

  • Joe Drennan | September 26, 2007 at 9:41 am |

    Anybody notice in teh Flyers cooperall picture, there are straps holding the pant leg down that go under the skate?

  • xyz | September 26, 2007 at 9:43 am |

    Don,
    The original MaxPro (formerly Marietta) “Kineomatic” clear shell,helmet from the MaxPro company went bankrupt around 1986. At that time they also produced the Kelley (formerly MacGregor) MH100 helmet. I believe Riddell bought the factory and molds. There was another company called MaxPro that produced a model called “2001” in the late 90’s but I am not sure if they are related to the former.

  • Stuby | September 26, 2007 at 9:43 am |

    [quote comment=”148145″]I love how everyone on Fox, NBC, and ESPN was trashing those Eagles uniforms. It was on of their top stories. I didn’t really care for them either, but it was more becaus i was longing for them to Bendarik-era jersey. Plus, I still hold out hope that the black alternates will be shelved in favor of the kelly green and silver.[/quote]
    They should wear this version of the kelly green. At least they wore them in a Super Bowl, and I always loved those sleeve stripes.

  • Kwik | September 26, 2007 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment=”148151″]So he can be seen in the sideline crowd.

    Clearly, but what’s the job title/description for this guy?
    And is it an officially licensed NFL Equipment Reebok oven-mitt?[/quote]

    Not sure of the exact job title, but I’m pretty sure that the orange oven mitt is the mark of the go-between for the referee and the TV director of the game, so that there’s not a kickoff while they’re in commercial or anything like that.

  • Vince Grzegorek | September 26, 2007 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”148157″][quote comment=”148151″]So he can be seen in the sideline crowd.

    Clearly, but what’s the job title/description for this guy?
    And is it an officially licensed NFL Equipment Reebok oven-mitt?[/quote]

    Not sure of the exact job title, but I’m pretty sure that the orange oven mitt is the mark of the go-between for the referee and the TV director of the game, so that there’s not a kickoff while they’re in commercial or anything like that.[/quote]

    That’s kind of exactly what it is. The guy in the orange mitts is linked up to the broadcast and signals (via the very visible orange oven mitts) to the ref when to wind the clock and start live play. It’s a phenomenally interesting thing to watch if you sit close enough.

  • Don | September 26, 2007 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”148155″]Don,
    The original MaxPro (formerly Marietta) “Kineomatic” clear shell,helmet from the MaxPro company went bankrupt around 1986. At that time they also produced the Kelley (formerly MacGregor) MH100 helmet. I believe Riddell bought the factory and molds. There was another company called MaxPro that produced a model called “2001” in the late 90’s but I am not sure if they are related to the former.[/quote]

    Thanks.

    I wore mine in 1987 (!).

  • Mike | September 26, 2007 at 9:48 am |

    I was watching the Daily Show last night, and they did a bit on the “problem” of immigration of mexicans into canada. anyways, they interviewed Raffi Torres in his Oilers gear and the first thing i noticed was that he was wearing last years jersey and equipment. shows you how old some of the reports they put together are.

  • Dan Lichterman | September 26, 2007 at 9:50 am |

    Great shots of the goalie masks. Question though, why don’t the baseball catchers who wear the goalie style mask have more personalized designs? All that I can think of are very standard and boring, is this an MLB issue or are catchers just not as colourful as goalies?

  • MikeB | September 26, 2007 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”148143″][quote comment=”148138″]I was watching the Eagles game the other day – there was some action that spilled over to the sidelines.
    The camera caught a shot of some sideline official (?) wearing standard-issue NFL gear and what appeared to be an elbow-length bright orange oven mitt. He was waving his hands in a circular motion.
    I figured that he had something to do with the broadcast, but not sure.
    No screen grab.. any ideas what the significance of the oven mitt is?[/quote]

    So he can be seen in the sideline crowd.[/quote]

    He works with the referee and production crew in executing the television timeouts.

  • MikeB | September 26, 2007 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”148163″][quote comment=”148143″][quote comment=”148138″]I was watching the Eagles game the other day – there was some action that spilled over to the sidelines.
    The camera caught a shot of some sideline official (?) wearing standard-issue NFL gear and what appeared to be an elbow-length bright orange oven mitt. He was waving his hands in a circular motion.
    I figured that he had something to do with the broadcast, but not sure.
    No screen grab.. any ideas what the significance of the oven mitt is?[/quote]

    So he can be seen in the sideline crowd.[/quote]

    He works with the referee and production crew in executing the television timeouts.[/quote]

    I gotta hit “refresh” a little more often :)

  • ScottyJ in WV | September 26, 2007 at 9:57 am |

    The 1974 Nippon Ham Fighters cap is very nice!

  • odessasteps | September 26, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    I love the stuff on the yakyushop site. If only the stuff came in “fat guy” sizes.

  • Chris | September 26, 2007 at 10:03 am |

    Speaking of NFL sidelines. I noticed when I went to the Titans-Colts game there was a guy on the sideline with referee pants and socks but he was wearing a maroon polo. I have also seen him on other games on TV. Who is that guy?

  • Mike | September 26, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    The Mets had two pitchers named Bob Miller in the early 60’s. One was left handed and the other right handed. One time Stengel called down in the midst of another loss and said, “Get Miller up!” The coach in the pen asked, “Which one?” Stengel said, ” Surprise me!”

  • ScottyJ in WV | September 26, 2007 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”148159″][quote comment=”148155″]Don,
    The original MaxPro (formerly Marietta) “Kineomatic” clear shell,helmet from the MaxPro company went bankrupt around 1986. At that time they also produced the Kelley (formerly MacGregor) MH100 helmet. I believe Riddell bought the factory and molds. There was another company called MaxPro that produced a model called “2001” in the late 90’s but I am not sure if they are related to the former.[/quote]

    Thanks.

    I wore mine in 1987 (!).[/quote]

    Our junior high team bought new MaxPro helmets back in ’81. The newly-formed athletic booster club bought them for the school, so I got to see the sales pitch, as my dad was one of the founding members.

    The guy said they were the most protective on the market and that the Dallas Cowboys were wearing them. Anybody know if there’s any truth to that?

    There was one thing the salesman did during his pitch that I’ll never forget. To prove the cushioning ability of the interior pads, he put a pad over his hand on a table and then smashed it with a hammer! He lifts his hand and waves it a little bit as if to say “look, no damage!”

    Sold. :0)

  • NateL | September 26, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    Don’t know if anyone noticed this last night:

    Watching the Red Sox game, Ruddy Lugo of the Oakland A’s pitched to Julio Lugo or the Red Sox. Julio is Ruddy’s older brother.

    Julio’s number is 23, Ruddy’s is 45. Thought it was interesting, especially since 23 is roughly half of 45.

    I remember Michael Jordan used to wear 23 because his older brother Larry wore 45, and he considered himself half as good as his brother.

  • Wade Harder | September 26, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”148127″]Iowa State should permanently wear those throwbacks that they wore a few weeks ago…those were awesome![/quote]

    I like that look as well–very classic. If Iowa State isn’t choosing from one of the three that were voted on, I’m guessing they are going with a yellow or red helmet.

  • dw438 | September 26, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”148138″]I was watching the Eagles game the other day – there was some action that spilled over to the sidelines.
    The camera caught a shot of some sideline official (?) wearing standard-issue NFL gear and what appeared to be an elbow-length bright orange oven mitt. He was waving his hands in a circular motion.
    I figured that he had something to do with the broadcast, but not sure.
    No screen grab.. any ideas what the significance of the oven mitt is?[/quote]
    That’s the network stage manager [usually a member of the Directors Guild of America, at least in NY] who is the liaison between the network covering the game and the on-field officials. He is the one, when the orange hand is upraised who signifies that the network is in commercial time.
    The famed Biff Henderson of Letterman fame did many of these games at Shea and Giants Stadium many moons ago when NBC had the AFC package.

  • interlockingtc | September 26, 2007 at 10:13 am |

    Teebz,

    Your gallery of patches is fantastic.

  • dw438 | September 26, 2007 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment=”148149″]In the SI hockey jersey gallery I noticed that the newer version of the skating Penguine is skating with his head up, while the original is looking at the puck. Now that’s a nice attention to detail![/quote]
    The SI picture series is great. Note the timelessness of the Leafs and Canadiens sweaters, and the utter crap some of the newer teams get away with. Can’t beat an Original Six sweater.
    Tood bad the Black Hawks are a stinker, but that sweater sure is a classic. Good for the Caps to go retro.
    Of course the SI site brought up the Islanders and their Gorton’s Fisherman sweaters.
    Can’t wait for the puck to drop!

  • Joe Schmeltzer | September 26, 2007 at 10:16 am |

    A strange thing happened in my head yesterday – just for fun, I was looking at all kinds of team logos and it messed with my mind because I came across the philadelphia eagle-head logo and all of a sudden thought, “Hey is that what is on their helmets?! They had the cool wings – that better still be there!”

    I actually had to look up a picture. Thinking about all those other logos (and the Eagles throwbacks last week) really messed with my mind. Just to demonstrate what was going on in my head, here is a mock-up. Ugh, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit…

  • Teebz | September 26, 2007 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”148181″]Teebz,

    Your gallery of patches is fantastic.[/quote]

    Thanks. I never expected Paul to link all three articles, so thanks to Paul as well. I’m trying to keep them updated as a reference point.

    As an aside, the Pittsburgh 250 patch, the Flames’ sleeve flags, and a Hartford Whalers’ All-Star patch will be added today to the lists. :o)

  • Joe Schmeltzer | September 26, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”148184″]A strange thing happened in my head yesterday – just for fun, I was looking at all kinds of team logos and it messed with my mind because I came across the philadelphia eagle-head logo and all of a sudden thought, “Hey is that what is on their helmets?! They had the cool wings – that better still be there!”

    I actually had to look up a picture. Thinking about all those other logos (and the Eagles throwbacks last week) really messed with my mind. Just to demonstrate what was going on in my head, here is a mock-up. Ugh, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit…[/quote]

    Sorry, here is my mock-up.

  • todd krevanchi | September 26, 2007 at 10:28 am |

    after seeing pics of cooperalls over the last few years on this site and on the dot com article, they arent that foreign to me anymore and in fact dont look strange at all.

    i wouldnt mind seeing a template drawing board of all teams unis wearing the cooperalls.

  • JJC | September 26, 2007 at 10:28 am |

    I was watching the NFL Replay of the Hawks/Bengals game last night on the NFL Network and noticed that during one of the replays that Shaun Alexander was wearing elbow pads with American Flags on them. Is this a new thing? Does anyone have a pic?

  • Ben | September 26, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”148145″]I love how everyone on Fox, NBC, and ESPN was trashing those Eagles uniforms. It was on of their top stories. I didn’t really care for them either, but it was more becaus i was longing for them to Bendarik-era jersey. Plus, I still hold out hope that the black alternates will be shelved in favor of the kelly green and silver.[/quote]
    The Eagles used to have great uniforms (I always like when teams wear gold or silver pants, which reminds me the Saints look awful when they wear the black pants instead of the gold). That atrocity they wear now is awful…is it green? is it black?…it’s glack.

  • Boston Nick | September 26, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    I love the Bruins’ masks. All of em going with some manner of fierce Bruin, which is nice.

    I’ll always love Steve Shields’ tribute to Cheevers. I just wish a good goalie had done that so it could’ve stuck around for a few more years.

    There have been a lot of good goalie masks, but nothing will ever come close to touching Cheevers’ stitched up design. It was the first mask to really show personality, and nothing has topped it since.

  • Drew | September 26, 2007 at 10:36 am |

    The Cub/Boy Scouts actually wear the flag backward on the right shoulder, with the blue field closer to the back of the arm.

    http://www.mninter.n...

  • Eric | September 26, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”148131″]I was away for a week or so

    Has this been posted yet?

    “What Not To Wear To Yankee Stadium”:

    http://popjocks.com/...

    Reminds me of the time I saw someone with a Florida Panthers “Vanbriesbrouck” jersey.

  • Joe Schmeltzer | September 26, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”148195″]The Cub/Boy Scouts actually wear the flag backward on the right shoulder, with the blue field closer to the back of the arm.

    http://www.mninter.n...
    Very interesting link! So I guess that the “forward wearers” are not wrong afterall. I stand corrected.

    However, I still think it looks best with the stars facing forward, as if the flag is being carried into battle.

  • hott rodd | September 26, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    The person with the maroon polo is the new K-Ball guy, his job is to take care of the K-Balls due to the new “Romo Rule.” (This Cowboys fan is cringing…)

  • scottp | September 26, 2007 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”148199″][quote comment=”148195″]

    However, I still think it looks best with the stars facing forward, as if the flag is being carried into battle.[/quote]

    That would depend on which side you were standing on as you headed into battle right? ; )

    I notice this ‘backwards’ facing flag on aircraft from time-to-time.

  • Chris | September 26, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”148153″]Anybody notice in teh Flyers cooperall picture, there are straps holding the pant leg down that go under the skate?[/quote]

    Yes. As a child of the 80s who wore Cooperalls for a couple of years (when they were ‘cool’), they had a little velcro strap on the bottom of each leg which you would put through the blade holder of each skate…the velcro would often come undone resulting in a piece of fabric that would be easily stepped on while on the ice. And you know what happens when you step on something while on the ice…*smash*

  • todd krevanchi | September 26, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”148193″][quote comment=”148145″]I love how everyone on Fox, NBC, and ESPN was trashing those Eagles uniforms. It was on of their top stories. I didn’t really care for them either, but it was more becaus i was longing for them to Bendarik-era jersey. Plus, I still hold out hope that the black alternates will be shelved in favor of the kelly green and silver.[/quote]
    The Eagles used to have great uniforms (I always like when teams wear gold or silver pants, which reminds me the Saints look awful when they wear the black pants instead of the gold). That atrocity they wear now is awful…is it green? is it black?…it’s glack.[/quote]

    i think the eagles 75th anniversary uni’s were spectacular.
    http://farm2.static....
    http://farm2.static....
    http://farm2.static....

  • Joe Schmeltzer | September 26, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”148203″][quote comment=”148199″][quote comment=”148195″]

    However, I still think it looks best with the stars facing forward, as if the flag is being carried into battle.[/quote]

    That would depend on which side you were standing on as you headed into battle right? ; )

    I notice this ‘backwards’ facing flag on aircraft from time-to-time.[/quote]

    Well, if you have the stars facing forward on your left, and backward on your right, then I guess you’d have to spin into battle. I’ve never been in a battle, but I can’t imagine that is a good idea. At the very least, you would be dizzy by the time you reached the enemy.

  • KW | September 26, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    MLB catchers do not get to design the hockey style catchers masks…they are supplied and designed by All-Star (next year the deal moves to Wilson and will be provided by them).

    While a MLB catcher can wear any brand traditional face mask they must wear an All Star hockey style mask if they choose to wear one.

  • Seth H | September 26, 2007 at 11:01 am |

    Art Shamsky is speaking at my temple on Sunday. Let me know if you have any uni (69 Mets, Israel Baseball League) questions.

  • Stuby | September 26, 2007 at 11:03 am |

    Bonds will play his last home game tonight as a Giant. As a Giants fan who has never liked the guy, tonight couldn’t have come soon enough.

    I will be curious to see how the team marks the occasion, though. They have come up with a logo for every other milestone in his career, but since they are giving him the Golden Handshake, it could be an awkward moment. They don’t really have any open real estate on their jerseys for another patch.

  • Rick | September 26, 2007 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”148158″][quote comment=”148157″][quote comment=”148151″]So he can be seen in the sideline crowd.

    Clearly, but what’s the job title/description for this guy?
    And is it an officially licensed NFL Equipment Reebok oven-mitt?[/quote]

    Not sure of the exact job title, but I’m pretty sure that the orange oven mitt is the mark of the go-between for the referee and the TV director of the game, so that there’s not a kickoff while they’re in commercial or anything like that.[/quote]

    That’s kind of exactly what it is. The guy in the orange mitts is linked up to the broadcast and signals (via the very visible orange oven mitts) to the ref when to wind the clock and start live play. It’s a phenomenally interesting thing to watch if you sit close enough.[/quote]

    My favorite part is sitting in Cleveland Browns Stadium on Sundays listening to the crowd start to get into the game and having scoreboards ask the fans to “Get Loud” only to look down and see Mr. Oven Mitts standing on the field with his hand on his chest holding up the game.
    Good times!

  • Marty Met | September 26, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”148213″]Art Shamsky is speaking at my temple on Sunday. Let me know if you have any uni (69 Mets, Israel Baseball League) questions.[/quote]

    What temple is that?

  • Carl G | September 26, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”148159″][quote comment=”148155″]Don,
    The original MaxPro (formerly Marietta) “Kineomatic” clear shell,helmet from the MaxPro company went bankrupt around 1986. At that time they also produced the Kelley (formerly MacGregor) MH100 helmet. I believe Riddell bought the factory and molds. There was another company called MaxPro that produced a model called “2001” in the late 90’s but I am not sure if they are related to the former.[/quote]

    Thanks.

    I wore mine in 1987 (!).[/quote]

    According to HelmetHut, Max Pro went out of business in the mid 1980s due to problems associated with the dramatic increase in product liability insurance.

    http://www.helmethut...

  • Dan Lichterman | September 26, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    By the way, I was a TDBanknorth Garden yesterdday and saw the B’s practice, what is the deal with the practice socks? Anyone have any shots of those. Are all teams using them – there is a crazy white front that wings out near the knee and then solid black on the back. Plus the piping on the practice jersey looks awful

  • Joe Schmeltzer | September 26, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”148210″]
    i think the eagles 75th anniversary uni’s were spectacular.
    http://farm2.static....
    http://farm2.static....
    http://farm2.static....
    That is the first time I’ve noticed that the refs wore throwback hats that year. Those look great – nice touch, NFL.

  • Ben N | September 26, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”148210″][quote comment=”148193″][quote comment=”148145″]I love how everyone on Fox, NBC, and ESPN was trashing those Eagles uniforms. It was on of their top stories. I didn’t really care for them either, but it was more becaus i was longing for them to Bendarik-era jersey. Plus, I still hold out hope that the black alternates will be shelved in favor of the kelly green and silver.[/quote]
    The Eagles used to have great uniforms (I always like when teams wear gold or silver pants, which reminds me the Saints look awful when they wear the black pants instead of the gold). That atrocity they wear now is awful…is it green? is it black?…it’s glack.[/quote]

    i think the eagles 75th anniversary uni’s were spectacular.
    http://farm2.static....
    http://farm2.static....
    http://farm2.static....

    I never noticed the NFL 75th Anniversary Logo on the back of the ref’s caps before!

  • lemonverbena | September 26, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”148216″][quote comment=”148158″][quote comment=”148157″][quote comment=”148151″]So he can be seen in the sideline crowd.

    Clearly, but what’s the job title/description for this guy?
    And is it an officially licensed NFL Equipment Reebok oven-mitt?[/quote]

    Not sure of the exact job title, but I’m pretty sure that the orange oven mitt is the mark of the go-between for the referee and the TV director of the game, so that there’s not a kickoff while they’re in commercial or anything like that.[/quote]

    That’s kind of exactly what it is. The guy in the orange mitts is linked up to the broadcast and signals (via the very visible orange oven mitts) to the ref when to wind the clock and start live play. It’s a phenomenally interesting thing to watch if you sit close enough.[/quote]

    My favorite part is sitting in Cleveland Browns Stadium on Sundays listening to the crowd start to get into the game and having scoreboards ask the fans to “Get Loud” only to look down and see Mr. Oven Mitts standing on the field with his hand on his chest holding up the game.
    Good times![/quote]

    I moonlight as a statistician for CBS Sports on NFL gamedays, and worked on the field for ABC College Football in years prior. “Mr. Oven Mitts” official designation is Red Hat. Give you zero guesses as to how the position ended up so titled.

    Red Hat wears a headset to communicate with the production truck (he is “on the PL” – private line/production line). The director tells Red Hat when the commercials are over, usually by something as technical as, “OK Jimmy, let ‘em go.” Red Hat puts his oven mitt down and the official continues the game.

    Fascinating, I know.

  • Carl G | September 26, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”148146″][quote comment=”148140″][quote comment=”148132″]Baseball Barry Bonds hit for home run No. 756 to be branded with an asterisk

    http://sports.yahoo....

    well, at least it is going to be in the hall of fame. it would have been a shame if the people voted it to be destroyed.
    i voted for it to be donated as is. i feel that anything other than the appropriate labeling or autograph is defacing an article that should be in the HOF anyway.[/quote]

    I voted for the asterisk. That being said there’s some debate on whether the HOF will take it with the asterisk. They originally said they wouldn’t but apparently have talked to Ecko about it.

    This is also quite possibly the greatest marketing scheme ever. Ecko got so much publicity out of this it was well worth what he paid for the ball whether it goes into the hall or not.[/quote]

    Although I am not a fan of Barry Bonds, I feel like I defend him each day.

    I think that it is beneath the baseball hall of fame to accept and display an item that not only has been defaced but is aimed as a personal insult at Bonds, especially in light of Bonds donating items to the hall of fame. The baseball hall of fame should not be engaged in this type of publicity stunt.

    Also, as a uniform and history fan, I HATE the defacement of historical objects. This reminds me of sports card manufacturers who purchase game used uniforms (especially one of a kind historical items like Babe Ruth or Lou Gehrig game used uniforms) and cut them up into little pieces and glue them to baseball cards.

    I understand that the person who purchases an item can do what they want with it (whether it be putting an asterisk on the Bonds ball or cut up a Babe Ruth jersey for a baseball card), but I still dont think its right.

    Imagine the uproar if someone purchased an original copy of the constitution and then cut out all the parts referencing slavery

  • Carl G | September 26, 2007 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”148160″]I was watching the Daily Show last night, and they did a bit on the “problem” of immigration of mexicans into canada. anyways, they interviewed Raffi Torres in his Oilers gear and the first thing i noticed was that he was wearing last years jersey and equipment. shows you how old some of the reports they put together are.[/quote]

    While the daily show episode was new, for the report segments, they often rerun reports that were from the past year, which i believe was the case here.

  • Carl G | September 26, 2007 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”148176″][quote comment=”148159″][quote comment=”148155″]Don,
    The original MaxPro (formerly Marietta) “Kineomatic” clear shell,helmet from the MaxPro company went bankrupt around 1986. At that time they also produced the Kelley (formerly MacGregor) MH100 helmet. I believe Riddell bought the factory and molds. There was another company called MaxPro that produced a model called “2001” in the late 90’s but I am not sure if they are related to the former.[/quote]

    Thanks.

    I wore mine in 1987 (!).[/quote]

    Our junior high team bought new MaxPro helmets back in ’81. The newly-formed athletic booster club bought them for the school, so I got to see the sales pitch, as my dad was one of the founding members.

    The guy said they were the most protective on the market and that the Dallas Cowboys were wearing them. Anybody know if there’s any truth to that?

    There was one thing the salesman did during his pitch that I’ll never forget. To prove the cushioning ability of the interior pads, he put a pad over his hand on a table and then smashed it with a hammer! He lifts his hand and waves it a little bit as if to say “look, no damage!”

    Sold. :0)[/quote]

    Again, according to HelmutHut, the cowboys did wear the helemts

    http://helmethut.com...

  • Judd | September 26, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    Officially, the Red Sox had two players named Javier Lopez in 2006, although the catcher went by the nickname Javy while the pitcher went by Javier.

    Teh Bobby Joneses were a few years before that.

  • Terri | September 26, 2007 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”148228″][quote comment=”148146″][quote comment=”148140″][quote comment=”148132″]Baseball Barry Bonds hit for home run No. 756 to be branded with an asterisk

    http://sports.yahoo....

    well, at least it is going to be in the hall of fame. it would have been a shame if the people voted it to be destroyed.
    i voted for it to be donated as is. i feel that anything other than the appropriate labeling or autograph is defacing an article that should be in the HOF anyway.[/quote]

    I voted for the asterisk. That being said there’s some debate on whether the HOF will take it with the asterisk. They originally said they wouldn’t but apparently have talked to Ecko about it.

    This is also quite possibly the greatest marketing scheme ever. Ecko got so much publicity out of this it was well worth what he paid for the ball whether it goes into the hall or not.[/quote]

    Although I am not a fan of Barry Bonds, I feel like I defend him each day.

    I think that it is beneath the baseball hall of fame to accept and display an item that not only has been defaced but is aimed as a personal insult at Bonds, especially in light of Bonds donating items to the hall of fame. The baseball hall of fame should not be engaged in this type of publicity stunt.

    Also, as a uniform and history fan, I HATE the defacement of historical objects. This reminds me of sports card manufacturers who purchase game used uniforms (especially one of a kind historical items like Babe Ruth or Lou Gehrig game used uniforms) and cut them up into little pieces and glue them to baseball cards.

    I understand that the person who purchases an item can do what they want with it (whether it be putting an asterisk on the Bonds ball or cut up a Babe Ruth jersey for a baseball card), but I still dont think its right.

    Imagine the uproar if someone purchased an original copy of the constitution and then cut out all the parts referencing slavery[/quote]

    I voted for the asterick, simply because if the HOF decides to display it, they’ll have to discuss why the asterick is there. That means that 50 yrs from now, people will still say “he broke the record, but there was alot of controversy cuz Bonds took steroids.”

    I would much prefer that than people forgetting about the steroid issue and just remembering Bonds for holding a record.

  • Philly Bill | September 26, 2007 at 11:47 am |

    Best Cooperalls photo EVER. And, like so many iconic NHL photos, it was taken by Denis Brodeur (father of Martin).

  • Tim D | September 26, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”148212″]MLB catchers do not get to design the hockey style catchers masks…they are supplied and designed by All-Star (next year the deal moves to Wilson and will be provided by them).

    While a MLB catcher can wear any brand traditional face mask they must wear an All Star hockey style mask if they choose to wear one.[/quote]

    Yadi Molina has a couple of Big ‘ol Cardinals on his masks…did All Star design that for him?

  • Commisso | September 26, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    Having an asterisk on the record breaking ball makes it more historic, whether good or bad. Here’s a few historic scandals that are still referred to today: Black Sox Scandal, Black Sunday in the NFL, and any kind of race involving bicycling (it seems). You could include the NHL lockout, but that really wasn’t a scandal, just stupidity.

  • jaye | September 26, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    “I would much prefer that than people forgetting about the steroid issue and just remembering Bonds for holding a record.”

    Baseball is a game of stats and memories. No one’s ever gonna forget BB anytime soon.

  • Broker75 | September 26, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    Sad note but, the owner of the Chicago Blackhawks died at 77yrs. Are Blackhawks fans rejoicing? or saddened..

  • Vince DeMarco | September 26, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”148240″]Having an asterisk on the record breaking ball makes it more historic, whether good or bad. Here’s a few historic scandals that are still referred to today: Black Sox Scandal, Black Sunday in the NFL, and any kind of race involving bicycling (it seems). You could include the NHL lockout, but that really wasn’t a scandal, just stupidity.[/quote]

    The HOF is a museum. It doesn’t (or shouldn’t) form opinions, it just reflect the opinions of the time. The ball signifies a major achievement. The asterick reflects a significant portion of the public opinion of that achievement

  • David T. | September 26, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    Herm Edwards’ polo shirt was missing the Chiefs arrowhead logo at his news conference yesterday–looks like it peeled off in the wash or something.

  • Kevin M | September 26, 2007 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”148228″]
    Although I am not a fan of Barry Bonds, I feel like I defend him each day.

    I think that it is beneath the baseball hall of fame to accept and display an item that not only has been defaced but is aimed as a personal insult at Bonds, especially in light of Bonds donating items to the hall of fame. The baseball hall of fame should not be engaged in this type of publicity stunt.

    Also, as a uniform and history fan, I HATE the defacement of historical objects. This reminds me of sports card manufacturers who purchase game used uniforms (especially one of a kind historical items like Babe Ruth or Lou Gehrig game used uniforms) and cut them up into little pieces and glue them to baseball cards.

    I understand that the person who purchases an item can do what they want with it (whether it be putting an asterisk on the Bonds ball or cut up a Babe Ruth jersey for a baseball card), but I still dont think its right.

    Imagine the uproar if someone purchased an original copy of the constitution and then cut out all the parts referencing slavery[/quote]

    No offense, but it’s a baseball. The Constitution is slightly more important.

  • David T. | September 26, 2007 at 12:02 pm |

    Click on one of the video links to see Edwards with an arrowhead-shaped red splotch on his shirt.

  • Carl G | September 26, 2007 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”148240″]Having an asterisk on the record breaking ball makes it more historic, whether good or bad. Here’s a few historic scandals that are still referred to today: Black Sox Scandal, Black Sunday in the NFL, and any kind of race involving bicycling (it seems). You could include the NHL lockout, but that really wasn’t a scandal, just stupidity.[/quote]

    Yeah, but all of those scandals are referred to without having to deface historical items

  • Michael Churchill | September 26, 2007 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote]Did you know American Indians have a distinctive foot shape? Nike did (as jointly spotted by Vince and Minna H.).[/quote]

    “Nee-kay”? What is that, some kinda Injun talk or something?

  • Kevin M | September 26, 2007 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”148239″][quote comment=”148212″]MLB catchers do not get to design the hockey style catchers masks…they are supplied and designed by All-Star (next year the deal moves to Wilson and will be provided by them).

    While a MLB catcher can wear any brand traditional face mask they must wear an All Star hockey style mask if they choose to wear one.[/quote]

    Yadi Molina has a couple of Big ‘ol Cardinals on his masks…did All Star design that for him?[/quote]

    I would think once they purchase the mask they can do whatever they want with it, including personalization. Maybe the MLB has some sort of quirky rule about this? If not, I would guess we will see goalie-style paint jobs on catchers sooner than later.

  • Carl G | September 26, 2007 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”148247″][quote comment=”148228″]
    Although I am not a fan of Barry Bonds, I feel like I defend him each day.

    I think that it is beneath the baseball hall of fame to accept and display an item that not only has been defaced but is aimed as a personal insult at Bonds, especially in light of Bonds donating items to the hall of fame. The baseball hall of fame should not be engaged in this type of publicity stunt.

    Also, as a uniform and history fan, I HATE the defacement of historical objects. This reminds me of sports card manufacturers who purchase game used uniforms (especially one of a kind historical items like Babe Ruth or Lou Gehrig game used uniforms) and cut them up into little pieces and glue them to baseball cards.

    I understand that the person who purchases an item can do what they want with it (whether it be putting an asterisk on the Bonds ball or cut up a Babe Ruth jersey for a baseball card), but I still dont think its right.

    Imagine the uproar if someone purchased an original copy of the constitution and then cut out all the parts referencing slavery[/quote]

    No offense, but it’s a baseball. The Constitution is slightly more important.[/quote]

    No offense taken. The Constitution is slightly more important, but the enslavement of millions of people is slightly more harmful then a baseball player taking steroids.

  • Stevo | September 26, 2007 at 12:07 pm |

    On the ISU uni topic, it’s Chizik’s idea to have white helmets in the first place, since he comes from the Texas program and likes the look. He may have decided that he liked the look of the gold helmets in the Iowa game, but I can tell you that the helmets will NOT be red. I guess we’ll find out for sure in a couple hours.

  • joe | September 26, 2007 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”148244″]Sad note but, the owner of the Chicago Blackhawks died at 77yrs. Are Blackhawks fans rejoicing? or saddened..[/quote]

    Rejoicing, and in celebration I just ordered an old style, not the new crap, jersey for myself.

  • Joe Drennan | September 26, 2007 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”148244″]Sad note but, the owner of the Chicago Blackhawks died at 77yrs. Are Blackhawks fans rejoicing? or saddened..[/quote]
    As a Blackhawks fan I have to admit I’m a bit sad. The fan in me is a bit excited though too. I’m sad because while he was arguably a terrible owner, he did so much philanthripic work that never got mentioned. He sent many kids to college with schollarships, helped fun children’s rehabilitaion centers in hospitals and countless other acts. It’s the loss of thsoe acts that has me saddened.

    The Uni Watch’er inside of me quickly then turned my attention to what kind of memorial patch or helmet sticker they’ll have. I’m thinking a dollar sign with his name scawled in the S-portion similar to how the Seatle Metropolitians (The first US team to win the Cup) logo. Sorry, no reference to that logo.

  • KW | September 26, 2007 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”148239″][quote comment=”148212″]MLB catchers do not get to design the hockey style catchers masks…they are supplied and designed by All-Star (next year the deal moves to Wilson and will be provided by them).

    While a MLB catcher can wear any brand traditional face mask they must wear an All Star hockey style mask if they choose to wear one.[/quote]

    Yadi Molina has a couple of Big ‘ol Cardinals on his masks…did All Star design that for him?[/quote]

    Yes, they did…Gregg Zaun of the Toronto Blue Jays has a couple of Blue Jays on his as well…All Star went to greater lengths with a few teams in their designs…coincided with teams who had starting catchers actually wearing the hockey style mask.

  • Paul Lukas | September 26, 2007 at 12:14 pm |

    I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?

  • KW | September 26, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”148251″][quote comment=”148239″][quote comment=”148212″]MLB catchers do not get to design the hockey style catchers masks…they are supplied and designed by All-Star (next year the deal moves to Wilson and will be provided by them).

    While a MLB catcher can wear any brand traditional face mask they must wear an All Star hockey style mask if they choose to wear one.[/quote]

    Yadi Molina has a couple of Big ‘ol Cardinals on his masks…did All Star design that for him?[/quote]

    I would think once they purchase the mask they can do whatever they want with it, including personalization. Maybe the MLB has some sort of quirky rule about this? If not, I would guess we will see goalie-style paint jobs on catchers sooner than later.[/quote]

    MLB does have a quirky rule on this…they consider the hockey style helmet to be part of the uniform so it is not up to the player which brand or look they can use. Do they have some input? Yes, I am sure they can add a bit of it but for the most part they are designed by All Star…if two catchers on the same team both wear hockey style masks then both will look the same.

    MLB is the only major sports company to make protective helmets part of a uniform…players can choose between the old style ABC Batter’s Helmet of the newer Cool-Flo Helmet but cant choose another option…both are made by Rawlings.

    If a catcher wants to wear a traditioanl style facemask they can wear whatever companies they are under contract with though…next year Wilson takes over the “official” license from MLB and all hockey style masks will have to be Wilson’s.

  • Teebz | September 26, 2007 at 12:18 pm |

    No, I entered as soon as I saw it, Paul. In fact, the draw almost coincides with my birthday… not that it will affect the draw any. ;o)

    Seriously, though, for a guy who has the Fisherman Islanders jersey, it would be another point of pride if I won it.

  • Joe Schmeltzer | September 26, 2007 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”148260″]…Seatle Metropolitians (The first US team to win the Cup) logo. Sorry, no reference to that logo.[/quote]
    Logo here

  • Marc M. | September 26, 2007 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]
    Just being honest Paul, but it does not interest me in the least.

  • todd krevanchi | September 26, 2007 at 12:24 pm |

    i am not a bonds fan by any means. but throughout his career i have been amazed by his offensive performance (more so during his first 5 years with SF).

    the things he did offensively and on the basepaths was something out of the ordinary and rarely if ever seen before.

    i remember once saying about bonds during his 1st or 2nd year in SF, “its like he’s in the major leagues and everyone else is playing wiffle ball, thats how much better he is.”

    we can all have our opinions about bonds, whether he did or didnt use. but the guy hit more balls out of major league parks than any other mlb player…ever

    and i have to consider him in the top 10 batters of all time as well. over the course of his career he had one of the keenest eyes at the plate, and could flat out hit the ball.

  • hott rodd | September 26, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    I entered the raffle, but flickr is blocked here at work so while many time I browse the comments, very rarely can I offer any input on that day’s topic unless there are pictures from a different site.

  • Christopher | September 26, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]

    No way, this is facinating! Ya know, if anyone wants to opt-out of their membership’s 3 free entries to help my chances of winning… :)

    I actually think the Mariners unis that night looked good with the sleeves (cut off sleeves don’t work for many people).

    The one thing I found real ugly is the Royals gold helmet and yellow jerseys. Pick one! The colors don’t go together!

  • Christopher | September 26, 2007 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”148244″]Sad note but, the owner of the Chicago Blackhawks died at 77yrs. Are Blackhawks fans rejoicing? or saddened..[/quote]

    I don’t think anyone with an ounce of class celebrates a death.

    But, yes, he was bad for the team in many ways.

    Still- RIP.

  • Paul P | September 26, 2007 at 12:34 pm |

    The Royals jersey is exciting and cool, I also entered right away, but it’s just something that we’ve discussed in a lot of detail and the not so distant past. I think that probably has to do with it.

  • Randy | September 26, 2007 at 12:35 pm |

    Sorry, Paul, but the Royals’ jersey won’t fit me, and I’ve already taken up enough closet space with jerseys I’ve – ahem – “outgrown” through the years.

  • Seth H | September 26, 2007 at 12:35 pm |

    Art Shamsky is speaking at my temple on Sunday. Let me know if you have any uni (69 Mets, Israel Baseball League) questions.

    What temple is that?

    Temple Israel of Great Neck. You have to join the Men’s Club to attend.

  • Kerry | September 26, 2007 at 12:37 pm |

    This is in response to a comment posted yesterday…
    [quote comment=”147860″]Funny thing about these unis is that they are mostly white…which probably won’t sit well with those that say only the African-American residents of New Orleans were effected by Katrina.[/quote]
    I think you’re reading WAY TOO much into that. I haven’t heard and don’t expect to hear anything remotely close to that regarding these unis.

    [quote comment=”147860″]Also, I noticed that the LSU logo has some type of design in the letters, anyone know what the hell they represent?[/quote]
    I have a hat with the logo and after very close inspection, I believe the design inside the lettering is suppossed to represent the iron work found on the balconies all over the French Quarter.

    [quote comment=”147860″]And the partial shoulder stripes kind of look like Hurricane Warning flags…[/quote]
    Purely coincidence.

  • Terri | September 26, 2007 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]

    Oh, I entered immediately- and I’ve never entered a raffle before. But in this case I wanted to cuz my Dad is a Royals fan, and I would love for him to have a game-worn jersey. The fact that it’s from a promontial stunt game makes it, in my opinion, even cooler.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | September 26, 2007 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”148260″][quote comment=”148244″]Sad note but, the owner of the Chicago Blackhawks died at 77yrs. Are Blackhawks fans rejoicing? or saddened..[/quote]
    As a Blackhawks fan I have to admit I’m a bit sad. The fan in me is a bit excited though too. I’m sad because while he was arguably a terrible owner, he did so much philanthripic work that never got mentioned. He sent many kids to college with schollarships, helped fun children’s rehabilitaion centers in hospitals and countless other acts. It’s the loss of thsoe acts that has me saddened.

    The Uni Watch’er inside of me quickly then turned my attention to what kind of memorial patch or helmet sticker they’ll have. I’m thinking a dollar sign with his name scawled in the S-portion similar to how the Seatle Metropolitians (The first US team to win the Cup) logo. Sorry, no reference to that logo.[/quote]

    Old “Dollar Bill” Wirtz will (unfortunately) be most remembered for being a cheap SOB when it came to the Blackhawks, not as the charitable gent he was. On the other hand, he was an SOB when it came to his other businesses (particularly his beer and liquor distributorships), and the subsequent politicking to have laws passed in Illinois that essentially restrict free trade in that marketplace and squeeze out many micro- and regional brewers in place of the macro-brewers and their mass-produced swill. Just my $ 0.02.

  • Chad G | September 26, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]

    I think it would be a cool thing for a Royals fan to have. But even on that note Rob said it never left his closet and the Royals are his team. I’m not even going to enter the raffle becuase I don’t want to get in the way of someone that might actually want it.

  • Stuby | September 26, 2007 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”148268″]i am not a bonds fan by any means. but throughout his career i have been amazed by his offensive performance (more so during his first 5 years with SF).

    the things he did offensively and on the basepaths was something out of the ordinary and rarely if ever seen before.

    i remember once saying about bonds during his 1st or 2nd year in SF, “its like he’s in the major leagues and everyone else is playing wiffle ball, thats how much better he is.”

    we can all have our opinions about bonds, whether he did or didnt use. but the guy hit more balls out of major league parks than any other mlb player…ever

    and i have to consider him in the top 10 batters of all time as well. over the course of his career he had one of the keenest eyes at the plate, and could flat out hit the ball.[/quote]
    Todd K., I agree that Bonds is right there at the top for this generation as far as sheer baseball talent. For me to really root for and support a player, though, the player generally has to be a good guy. I was tired of Bonds’ act long before he went on the juice.

    BTW, by ‘good guy’ I mean a player who has respect for the game, the fans, his teammates and, yes, to the media.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | September 26, 2007 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]

    Any piece of major league uniform history is a big deal in my book

    Plus, a size 44 will definitely fit me ;-)

    And, I look REALLY good in yellow :-D

  • Dan | September 26, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”148178″][quote comment=”148127″]Iowa State should permanently wear those throwbacks that they wore a few weeks ago…those were awesome![/quote]

    I like that look as well–very classic. If Iowa State isn’t choosing from one of the three that were voted on, I’m guessing they are going with a yellow or red helmet.[/quote]

    The I-State helmet would have been great.

  • Robert | September 26, 2007 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]

    I think that it is a mega-auction, but could not think of a comment that was in order. Great acquisition and a greater raffle. Keep up the good work.

  • Stormwater Design | September 26, 2007 at 1:05 pm |

    I must have missed that. What happened to the Fenway “8?”

  • Morris Levin | September 26, 2007 at 1:09 pm |

    ANY IDEAS?

    Hey all – My friend Kyle Washington (yes, the former player traded for Jose Mesa) – coaches an inner-city youth baseball team in Houston is putting together a program that will allow inner city and low income families to compete for a spot on his select teams w/o the high cost of registration and equipment.

    Does anyone know of organizations or funds or individuals who help fund or sponsor such unis and baseball equiptment. Email me at mlevin@victorypennants.com.

    Thanks everyone!

  • BCrisp | September 26, 2007 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”148295″]ANY IDEAS?

    Hey all – My friend Kyle Washington (yes, the former player traded for Jose Mesa) – coaches an inner-city youth baseball team in Houston is putting together a program that will allow inner city and low income families to compete for a spot on his select teams w/o the high cost of registration and equipment.

    Does anyone know of organizations or funds or individuals who help fund or sponsor such unis and baseball equiptment. Email me at mlevin@victorypennants.com.

    Thanks everyone![/quote]
    Astros in Action

  • RCheli | September 26, 2007 at 1:14 pm |

    Not sure if this was posted yesterday, but the Calgary Flames players also hate the new RBK slim-fit.

  • Robb | September 26, 2007 at 1:18 pm |

    The Michigan State football team has two Chris Ruckers, both true freshmen.

    Makes one wonder if there was confusion during the recruiting process…

    BTW, they use “C.L. Rucker” and C.D. Rucker” on the jersey.

  • Commisso | September 26, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]
    I’m still pissed off that I didn’t win the L.A Kings jersey that was auctioned last week..lol

  • Jake | September 26, 2007 at 1:55 pm |

    Was I the only person who chuckled at the unintentional pun in the Nike/American Indians article ?

    “It will be distributed solely to American Indians”

    Awesome.

  • Paul Lukas | September 26, 2007 at 1:58 pm |

    I’m trying to gather as many rookie hazing pics as possible. I’ve got Yanks, Pirates, and D-Rays (and I know the Dice-K teletubby shot is out there, altho I can’t find it at the moment). Any other hazing pics floating around out there?

    And while we’re at it: Any good pink bullpen-backpack shots?

  • Paul P | September 26, 2007 at 2:05 pm |
  • Joey Guns | September 26, 2007 at 2:06 pm |

    Paul, don’t cringe, but here’s an article about how eye black with a Nike logo may be in the near future….

    http://www.cnbc.com/...

  • My name is not Earl | September 26, 2007 at 2:08 pm |

    Iowa State chooses: I-State

  • Joey Guns | September 26, 2007 at 2:09 pm |

    Red rookies: http://www.ballhawk....

    Pink backpack picture:
    http://marinerds.com...

  • BCrisp | September 26, 2007 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”148314″]I’m trying to gather as many rookie hazing pics as possible. I’ve got Yanks, Pirates, and D-Rays (and I know the Dice-K teletubby shot is out there, altho I can’t find it at the moment). Any other hazing pics floating around out there?

    And while we’re at it: Any good pink bullpen-backpack shots?[/quote]
    Here’s a few links.


  • Paul P | September 26, 2007 at 2:09 pm |

    Sorry about the Dice-k link, I’ll try for another. Good backpack photo here
    http://marinerds.com...

  • Robert | September 26, 2007 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”148314″]I’m trying to gather as many rookie hazing pics as possible. I’ve got Yanks, Pirates, and D-Rays (and I know the Dice-K teletubby shot is out there, altho I can’t find it at the moment). Any other hazing pics floating around out there?

    And while we’re at it: Any good pink bullpen-backpack shots?[/quote]

    No photos, but here’s what the Reds did to their rookies:

    There was a reason Reds rookies were in no rush to get dressed after Sunday’s game. Their street clothes had been confiscated and replaced with wardrobes ranging from nurse outfits, a chicken suit and a turkey costume.

    It’s that time of year again where veterans haze the rookie players. The victims had to leave Miller Park in their garb and ride the bus all the way to Chicago. A stop at a McDonald’s off the highway was planned as well as a forced march down Michigan Avenue in downtown Chicago. Closer David Weathers was a key ringleader of the stunt.

    “One of many,” he said.

    Jeff Keppinger was in the nurse’s clothes; Brad Salmon was given a wrestling outfit resembling those worn in the movie Nacho Libre; Bill Bray was given a pink rabbit costume; Phil Dumatrait got the turkey suit and Joey Votto had pilgrim’s clothes and a tall black hat in his locker. Jared Burton received a big yellow chicken suit.

    “I’ll probably look pretty good in that,” Burton said.

  • My name is not Earl | September 26, 2007 at 2:10 pm |

    But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.

  • todd krevanchi | September 26, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    here is a site the may help you…
    http://www.ncaahazin...

  • BCrisp | September 26, 2007 at 2:12 pm |

    Trying again:
    1
    2
    3

  • Paul P | September 26, 2007 at 2:13 pm |

    Here’s a good Dice-K photo, along with Okajima in a pirate outfit, and it looks like the translator is in on it too
    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

  • Stuby | September 26, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    quote comment=”148314″]I’m trying to gather as many rookie hazing pics as possible. I’ve got Yanks and D-Rays (and I know the Dice-K teletubby shot is out there, altho I can’t find it at the moment). Any other hazing pics floating around out there?

    And while we’re at it: Any good pink bullpen-backpack shots?[/quote]
    A quick search produced these gems…

    Reds-Unknown year

    Hideki Matsui

    Yanks-2004

    Chien Ming Wang?

    Robinson Cano?

    Mariners pink backpack

    Braves-2005

  • Joey Guns | September 26, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    Devil Rays Rookies: http://i.cnn.net/si/...

    Another Dice-K:
    http://www.theboston...

  • My name is not Earl | September 26, 2007 at 2:15 pm |

    ISU’s jersey and gold pants will be modeled on the throwbacks they wore last week. They will also have red pants to be worn with the white jerseys (apparently not with the red jerseys)

    Why didn’t ISU go with a white helmet? Well, most teams with white helmets have white pants, and they didn’t want to have white pants. They wanted to emphasize that their colors were cardinal and gold, not cardinal and white.

  • Wade Harder | September 26, 2007 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.

  • Stuby | September 26, 2007 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]
    Why did they bother having the friggin’ vote?

  • Dwight | September 26, 2007 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]

    Looks like shit.

  • Trav | September 26, 2007 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”148336″][quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]

    Looks like shit.[/quote]

    A yellow helmet would have looked a lot better.

  • Wade Harder | September 26, 2007 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]

    Reminds me of USC with the cardinal helmet and shoulder and pant stripers.

  • Paul P | September 26, 2007 at 2:21 pm |

    Not rookie hazing, but by far my favorite Barry photo
    http://raindelay.typ...

  • John from Virginia Beach | September 26, 2007 at 2:23 pm |

    Don’t think this has been mentioned yet, but yesterday during a late inning at-bat, the Nationals Willie Mo had on one black batting glove and one white one. Sorry, no screen grabs.

  • Squiqqy | September 26, 2007 at 2:30 pm |

    The green dots on back of NFL QB helmets, anyone know what they are for?

  • bighokie09 | September 26, 2007 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”148337″][quote comment=”148336″][quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]

    Looks like shit.[/quote]

    A yellow helmet would have looked a lot better.[/quote]

    the white helmet looked better, but it’s STILL an improvement nonetheless

  • Shane | September 26, 2007 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”148160″]I was watching the Daily Show last night, and they did a bit on the “problem” of immigration of mexicans into canada. anyways, they interviewed Raffi Torres in his Oilers gear and the first thing i noticed was that he was wearing last years jersey and equipment. shows you how old some of the reports they put together are.[/quote]

    Raffi Torres fake-beating the crap out of a guy in a suit was one of the funnier things I’ve seen in a while.

    Way to get my hopes up with the throwback Japanese unis, Paul. If only I could squeeze my arse into a medium. *grumble*

  • UW justin | September 26, 2007 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”148337″][quote comment=”148336″][quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]

    Looks like shit.[/quote]

    A yellow helmet would have looked a lot better.[/quote]

    Link

  • bighokie09 | September 26, 2007 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”148338″][quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]

    Reminds me of USC with the cardinal helmet and shoulder and pant stripers.[/quote]

    and that’s as close as they’ll ever get those bastards from Troy (oops, did i say that out loud?) sorry gotta keep it uni-related. Still a good look for I-State.

  • brotzel | September 26, 2007 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”148345″]The green dots on back of NFL QB helmets, anyone know what they are for?[/quote]
    I’d rather read this than look at pictures of cross-dressing rookies.

  • BCrisp | September 26, 2007 at 2:35 pm |

    Re Iowa State: How long before those shoulder stripes get trucnated?

  • Stevo | September 26, 2007 at 2:36 pm |

    Once again Jamie Pollard pulls a bunny out of his hat. He’s gotten really good at sending the public and media down one road while sneaking down another. I haven’t seen images of the new look, but I’ve never really been a fan of the red helmets, so I agree that he should’ve gone with gold.

  • Stuby | September 26, 2007 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”148350″][quote comment=”148338″][quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]

    Reminds me of USC with the cardinal helmet and shoulder and pant stripers.[/quote]

    and that’s as close as they’ll ever get those bastards from Troy (oops, did i say that out loud?) sorry gotta keep it uni-related. Still a good look for I-State.[/quote]
    Yep. Pretty much a USC ripoff.

  • bighokie09 | September 26, 2007 at 2:38 pm |

    and I’m pretty sure they’ll go monochromatic with the home unis at least once. now i’m done

  • Broker75 | September 26, 2007 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”148337″][quote comment=”148336″][quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]

    Looks like shit.[/quote]

    A yellow helmet would have looked a lot better.[/quote]
    I’m not understanding why a few people are cutting up their uniforms..they look sharp. Saying they look like shit? whoa..Why do they look like shit

  • todd krevanchi | September 26, 2007 at 2:39 pm |

    i dont think that is from hazing because it looks like hideki matsui is on his way to the store to buy even more porn…
    i guess when you have a collection like his, thats how you dress…

  • Dan | September 26, 2007 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”148350″][quote comment=”148338″][quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]

    Reminds me of USC with the cardinal helmet and shoulder and pant stripers.[/quote]

    and that’s as close as they’ll ever get those bastards from Troy (oops, did i say that out loud?) sorry gotta keep it uni-related. Still a good look for I-State.[/quote]

    New logo is gorgeous, and uniforms are great, (I love yellow and red combos as much as Paul loves green and yellow/gold combos). But they are a complete ripoff of USC and you can say Minnesota, because the Gophers wore red pants against FAU this year. If the uniforms turn out the same as the picture, you can claim “no originality”. Simple solution? Use the I-State white helmet with the new design.

  • Trevor Kruger | September 26, 2007 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”148335″][quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]
    Why did they bother having the friggin’ vote?[/quote]

    The vote was to see if any of us ISU fans cared for the white. We hated it and apparently sent in over 1500 emails stating that we would rather have cardinal or gold. I much prefer the gold look. and I can’t fricken stand that stupid “I-State” logo(we had a petition against the I-State logo at Savecy.com). However the road uniforms are perfect(aside from the helmets and logo) and the home uni’s need a white stripe between the gold ones.

  • Rick | September 26, 2007 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”148345″]The green dots on back of NFL QB helmets, anyone know what they are for?[/quote]

    For decoration. LOL Kidding

    If you use the search feature of Uniwatch, you’ll see what it means: http://www.uniwatchb...

  • Thomps | September 26, 2007 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”148337″][quote comment=”148336″][quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]

    Looks like shit.[/quote]

    A yellow helmet would have looked a lot better.[/quote]

    Where is the link that shows the new helmet?

  • Trevor Kruger | September 26, 2007 at 2:47 pm |

    Simple solution? Use the I-State white helmet with the new design.[/quote]

    AHHHHH

    please, have you seen what it looks like with those stupid white helmets??? they looked like Wyoming’s.

    and we’re not I-State, were Iowa State.

  • Jeff | September 26, 2007 at 2:48 pm |

    Watching ESPN Classic right now and Washington vs. USC 1988 is on. Washington must have painted their helmets every week after the game and didn’t even take the facemasks off as Gold paint is all over the sides and chinstrap buckles. I kind of remember Colorado and ND doing the same back about the same time. Anyone else ever notice? Paul, You should do some research!

  • Stevo | September 26, 2007 at 2:51 pm |

    I’m not understanding why a few people are cutting up their uniforms..they look sharp. Saying they look like shit? whoa..Why do they look like shit

    I don’t think they look like caca, but I do think that it’s another case of a misdirection play by Jamie Pollard. When it was first announced that ISU was changing football uniforms, they said they were going away from the Cardinal helmets, which is why they had 3 white designs up for the vote. My only problem with the unis themselves is the roads. They have the choice of either Red/White/Red, which de-emphasizes the gold, or red/white/gold, which doesn’t look right to me. I say go with gold helmets and gold pants full-time, that way it looks right.

  • Stuby | September 26, 2007 at 2:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”148363″][quote comment=”148337″][quote comment=”148336″][quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]

    Looks like shit.[/quote]

    A yellow helmet would have looked a lot better.[/quote]

    Where is the link that shows the new helmet?[/quote]
    Post #139

  • Jeff | September 26, 2007 at 2:53 pm |

    Count the swooshes!

    Nike execs must be salavating!

    http://admin.xosn.co...

  • Stevo | September 26, 2007 at 2:57 pm |

    and we’re not I-State, were Iowa State.

    Then explain to me why every sports letter ever awarded at State has been just an I.

  • UW justin | September 26, 2007 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”148360″][quote comment=”148350″][quote comment=”148338″][quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]

    Reminds me of USC with the cardinal helmet and shoulder and pant stripers.[/quote]

    and that’s as close as they’ll ever get those bastards from Troy (oops, did i say that out loud?) sorry gotta keep it uni-related. Still a good look for I-State.[/quote]

    New logo is gorgeous, and uniforms are great, (I love yellow and red combos as much as Paul loves green and yellow/gold combos). But they are a complete ripoff of USC and you can say Minnesota, because the Gophers wore red pants against FAU this year. If the uniforms turn out the same as the picture, you can claim “no originality”. Simple solution? Use the I-State white helmet with the new design.[/quote]

    “no originality” ??? Unbelievable! They didn’t change their colors to “be like” USC or Minnesota. They chose a classic design that reflects their well established colors. And you’re bitching because it’s “not original?” So you’re twlling me that you would have liked it if they went for an ORIGINAL nike style? BS! Oregon State…that’s original. You like that?

    My point is one that has been brought up before…there is no pleasing you guys. If it’s classic, it’s unoriginal. If it’s new, it’s not classic. Blah blah blah. Can’t you be happy that it’s a HUGE improvement?

    [/rant]

  • Eric | September 26, 2007 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]

    Oh it is :) My hometown Senior League baseball team is the Royals. Recently though they changed their uniforms from the regular KC Royals colors to more of a Chicago White Sox black and white pinstriped look, with an interlocking “S” and “R” in Colorado Rockies fashion (team name is Strathroy Royals). It’d be great to show up to some games with this jersey!

  • Paul P | September 26, 2007 at 2:58 pm |

    From ESPN magazine, here’s how Chris Drury and Scott Gomez chose who wears 23 this year:

    Drury and Gomez’s first interaction as teammates, for example, might be the oddest argument in Rangers history. Both men had worn No. 23 with their former teams, so someone had to give it up.

    “You take it,” Gomez said.

    “No, you take it,” Drury said.

    “You’re older.”

    “You signed first.”

    “You won a Cup with it.”

    “You won two Cups.”

    Gomez then noted that he hadn’t picked 23; it had been assigned to him when he made the Devils. He’d worn 19 and 11 in juniors, while Drury, a Yankee fan, chose 23 as a boy in homage to Don Mattingly. Drury suggested that Gomez ask for 11, but Gomez, thinking back to all the times he’d looked up at MSG’s rafters and seen Mark Messier’s number billowing above, balked. “Uh, Chris,” he said, “do you know where we just signed?” At this point, Rangers GM Glen Sather chose the hockey way to settle things: He had them flip a puck. Drury won, so Gomez will wear 19, purchased from center Blair Betts with a $10,000 donation in Betts’ name to MSG’s Garden of Dreams Foundation.

  • Dwight | September 26, 2007 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”148356″][quote comment=”148337″][quote comment=”148336″][quote comment=”148334″][quote comment=”148326″]Iowa State chooses: I-State. But the helmets will be cardinal. Trouble is that the red “I” blends too much into red shells.[/quote]

    I called it.[/quote]

    Looks like shit.[/quote]

    A yellow helmet would have looked a lot better.[/quote]
    I’m not understanding why a few people are cutting up their uniforms..they look sharp. Saying they look like shit? whoa..Why do they look like shit[/quote]

    Helmets are terrible – overall, very nice – my “shit” comment was for the red I on red helmet.

  • Eric | September 26, 2007 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”148331″]quote comment=”148314″]I’m trying to gather as many rookie hazing pics as possible. I’ve got Yanks and D-Rays (and I know the Dice-K teletubby shot is out there, altho I can’t find it at the moment). Any other hazing pics floating around out there?

    And while we’re at it: Any good pink bullpen-backpack shots?[/quote]
    A quick search produced these gems…

    Reds-Unknown year

    Hideki Matsui

    Yanks-2004

    Chien Ming Wang?

    Robinson Cano?

    Mariners pink backpack

    Braves-2005[/quote]

    I have a Toronto Blue Jays pink backpack picture. I’ll try to remember to post it later.

  • Rydell M. | September 26, 2007 at 3:03 pm |

    Video here of the two newcomers coming to the Big Apple/Rangers.

  • J Michaels #5 | September 26, 2007 at 3:07 pm |

    I am really hoping to win the Royals jersey, but I am also a HUGE Royals fan (as evidenced by my membership card treatment).

  • Wade Harder | September 26, 2007 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”148364″]Simple solution? Use the I-State white helmet with the new design.[/quote]

    AHHHHH

    please, have you seen what it looks like with those stupid white helmets??? they looked like Wyoming’s.

    and we’re not I-State, were Iowa State.[/quote]

    I don’t see a reason to be upset over “I-State” instead of “Iowa State”. I went to Mississippi State, and the main logo is “M-State.” And I think I-State is really unique considering there are only 4 “I” states compared to 8 “M” States.

  • Trevor Kruger | September 26, 2007 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”148372″]

    and we’re not I-State, were Iowa State.

    Then explain to me why every sports letter ever awarded at State has been just an I.[/quote]

    because the block I is a historic symbol for ISU. We’ve never once called ourselves “I-State.” If we were going to change logos I would’ve preferred the old school interlocking I-S from our Iowa State College days. even the block I from the 70’s would have sufficed.

  • DenverGregg | September 26, 2007 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]
    I think it’s huge – well, huge for something in a “medium” size anyway. Couldn’t comment as I spent all morning at the dentist.

  • Duckstyle | September 26, 2007 at 3:20 pm |

    I’m searching, with no luck, for White Sox hazing pics. I been to games 3 years and counting to see the Rookie pitchers walk out to the bullpen with girls lunchboxes, backpacks, and purses. I thought they were on their website, but no luck. Btw, I’d love to get that Royals Jersey. Who in their right mind wouldn’t want a piece of strange baseball history?

  • bighokie09 | September 26, 2007 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”148364″]Simple solution? Use the I-State white helmet with the new design.[/quote]

    AHHHHH

    please, have you seen what it looks like with those stupid white helmets??? they looked like Wyoming’s.

    and we’re not I-State, were Iowa State.[/quote]

    hey if it’s any consolation every time someone refers to Virginia Tech as “Va Tech”, i wanna beat them upside the head with a barstool.

    But i gotta disagree with you on the Iowa State helmets, the designs at least had a red/yellow/red stripe combo going down it, other than the fact that the helmet itself is white, it’s a lot different from wyoming’s.

    Or at least the yellow helmets from the Throwbacks they wore this season, I’m just not feeling the new red ones.

  • Vince DeMarco | September 26, 2007 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”148345″]The green dots on back of NFL QB helmets, anyone know what they are for?[/quote]

    It’s nothing, just ignore it.

  • Trevor Kruger | September 26, 2007 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]
    Well I’m a Royals fan, and frankly I’m just so worked up over our magical run for forth place in the Central that I don’t think I can handle anything else Royal-related, currently.

  • paydirt | September 26, 2007 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”148351″][quote comment=”148345″]The green dots on back of NFL QB helmets, anyone know what they are for?[/quote]
    I’d rather read this than look at pictures of cross-dressing rookies.[/quote]
    Not cross-dressing..but they’re rookies..

  • BCrisp | September 26, 2007 at 3:31 pm |

    Quick question to Paul, or anyone else with knowledge of email ettiquite:
    I captured some very interesting phots at an Astros game. Should I attach these phots in an email to Paul with an explanation or should I host them on my on Flickr site and add links?
    Trust me it is a good find.

  • Stevo | September 26, 2007 at 3:31 pm |

    because the block I is a historic symbol for ISU. We’ve never once called ourselves “I-State.” If we were going to change logos I would’ve preferred the old school interlocking I-S from our Iowa State College days. even the block I from the 70’s would have sufficed.

    Keep in mind that the block I with “State” won’t just be on the helmets, it will also be at midcourt in Hilton, like what OK State has at Gallagher-Iba. In that context it will look wonderful, but on the helmet it looks like that “Star of the Week” helmet they had back in 83.

    But kudos to Jamie for going back to a real cardinal, instead of the just plain red of recent years, and for phasing out the navy accents that have turned into a primary color.

  • hott rodd | September 26, 2007 at 3:34 pm |

    post them and send him the link

    http://www.uniwatchb...

  • Trevor Kruger | September 26, 2007 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”148364″]
    Or at least the yellow helmets from the Throwbacks they wore this season, I’m just not feeling the new red ones.[/quote]
    I love the gold helmets. How they could pass on bringing those back is beyond me.

    seems simple: gold helmets, red and white stripes, red block I, white state. again, missing on that is beyond me.

  • Jim | September 26, 2007 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”148399″][quote comment=”148351″][quote comment=”148345″]The green dots on back of NFL QB helmets, anyone know what they are for
    Not cross-dressing..but they’re rookies [quote]
    Whoa, Paydirt. That’s a bit inappropriate don’t you think? How ’bout at least giving a NSFW warning.

  • Commisso | September 26, 2007 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”148399″][quote comment=”148351″][quote comment=”148345″]The green dots on back of NFL QB helmets, anyone know what they are for?[/quote]
    I’d rather read this than look at pictures of cross-dressing rookies.[/quote]
    Not cross-dressing..but they’re rookies..[/quote]
    Best one so far..NOT!

  • BCrisp | September 26, 2007 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”148403″]post them and send him the link

    http://www.uniwatchb...
    You know I’ve read that FAQ like 50 times, and don’t remember that answer. Guess I should have read it 51 times. Thanks.

  • Roger Faso | September 26, 2007 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”148314″]I’m trying to gather as many rookie hazing pics as possible. I’ve got Yanks, Pirates, and D-Rays (and I know the Dice-K teletubby shot is out there, altho I can’t find it at the moment). Any other hazing pics floating around out there?

    And while we’re at it: Any good pink bullpen-backpack shots?[/quote]

    No pics, but the A’s have a great tradition of painting the male parts of a horse statue in Chicago, green and gold.

    Below are two links to stories about it …

    http://espn.go.com/m...

    http://mlb.mlb.com/n...

    They’re both about halfway down the page.

  • Broker75 | September 26, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    I haven’t voted for a while but..Canadiens vs Blues: Which logo is better?
    ..these were the finalists on nhllogos.blogspot for best logo in NHL.

  • Rick | September 26, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”148405″][quote comment=”148399″][quote comment=”148351″][quote comment=”148345″]The green dots on back of NFL QB helmets, anyone know what they are for
    Not cross-dressing..but they’re rookies [quote]
    Whoa, Paydirt. That’s a bit inappropriate don’t you think? How ’bout at least giving a NSFW warning.[/quote]

    Paydirt, NOT COOL

  • hott rodd | September 26, 2007 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”148407″][quote comment=”148403″]post them and send him the link

    http://www.uniwatchb...
    You know I’ve read that FAQ like 50 times, and don’t remember that answer. Guess I should have read it 51 times. Thanks.[/quote]

    No problem, glad to help

  • Terri | September 26, 2007 at 3:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”148327″]here is a site the may help you…
    http://www.ncaahazin...

    Ugh, I hate that site. My school’s got an email from them a few years ago saying “wou have been reported to us for hazing your athletes. take care of it or we’ll go to the press”

    Apparently someone from another school had sent them pictures of a party from a few years before and called it hazing, so they went nuts. Ridiculous.

  • bighokie09 | September 26, 2007 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”148404″][quote comment=”148364″]
    Or at least the yellow helmets from the Throwbacks they wore this season, I’m just not feeling the new red ones.[/quote]
    I love the gold helmets. How they could pass on bringing those back is beyond me.

    seems simple: gold helmets, red and white stripes, red block I, white state. again, missing on that is beyond me.[/quote]

    yeah, but what of the facemask in that scenario? would it remain Neutral Grey, or is there another color in mind? the facemask is my only issue, otherwise I wouldn’t have a problem with the Chargers helmet, and uniform in general, either.

  • Dane | September 26, 2007 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]

    The Royals jersey, not so crazy about. Now if it was the Mariners jersey from that game, that’s another story.

  • DrBear | September 26, 2007 at 4:00 pm |

    What does it say that the guy who signals tv timeouts to the refs used to be a “red hat” but now needs to wear a blaze orange vest and orange hamburger helper mitt to be seen? Bad eyesight may explain a lot of the lower-quality officiating in the NFL these days.

    (Leaving out Ed Hochuli, who can take a time out any time he damn well wants.)

    By the way, I’m surprised Nike didn’t require those green dots on the helmet to be green swooshes.

  • Kenny | September 26, 2007 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”148285″][quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]

    Any piece of major league uniform history is a big deal in my book

    Plus, a size 44 will definitely fit me ;-)

    And, I look REALLY good in yellow

    :-D[/quote]

    I take it you’re white then?

  • paydirt | September 26, 2007 at 4:07 pm |

    Paydirt, NOT COOL
    I wasn’t trying “to be cool”. If people are looking for pics of men dressed in drag, they’d like that pic.

  • Rick | September 26, 2007 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”148314″]I’m trying to gather as many rookie hazing pics as possible. I’ve got Yanks, Pirates, and D-Rays (and I know the Dice-K teletubby shot is out there, altho I can’t find it at the moment). Any other hazing pics floating around out there?

    And while we’re at it: Any good pink bullpen-backpack shots?[/quote]

    This always reminds me of 2004 when Indians pitcher Kyle Denney got shot.
    Cheerleader
    ESPN Story

  • NMK | September 26, 2007 at 4:28 pm |

    The “We’re not I-State” thing reminds me of something I’ve wondered about at times– why are so many colleges so testy about being abbreviated a specific way? Like Texas insisting on being UT instead of TU or the University of Oklahoma being OU and never UO. USC doesn’t want to be Southern Cal, USF doesn’t want to be South Florida; Pittsburgh didn’t want to be Pitt for a while; Ohio State has to have a “The” at the beginning of it.

    It doesn’t make sense to me. ISU stands for Iowa State University. The I in “I-State” stands for Iowa. It doesn’t seem to cause confusion. What’s the difference?

    I hope I’m not creating an off-topic argument by saying this; I generally try to abbreviate things how people want them, as complicated as it gets, but it has just always seemed strange to me.

  • bighokie09 | September 26, 2007 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”148426″]Paydirt, NOT COOL
    I wasn’t trying “to be cool”. If people are looking for pics of men dressed in drag, they’d like that pic.[/quote]

    yo, Paydirt, we were just having a laugh some of the MLB rookies being taken out of stirrups and being hazed by the elders, good times and all that s#!t, then you come along with that garbage (no offense to the gay community). Grow the hell up man, there wasnt a need for that here.

  • paydirt | September 26, 2007 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”148432″][quote comment=”148426″]Paydirt, NOT COOL
    I wasn’t trying “to be cool”. If people are looking for pics of men dressed in drag, they’d like that pic.[/quote]

    yo, Paydirt, we were just having a laugh some of the MLB rookies being taken out of stirrups and being hazed by the elders, good times and all that s#!t, then you come along with that garbage (no offense to the gay community). Grow the hell up man, there wasnt a need for that here.[/quote]
    your “no offense to the gay community” doesn’t work..offense taken..thanks

  • djudson333 | September 26, 2007 at 4:42 pm |

    Paydirt, NOT COOL
    I wasn’t trying “to be cool”. If people are looking for pics of men dressed in drag, they’d like that pic.

    yo, Paydirt, we were just having a laugh some of the MLB rookies being taken out of stirrups and being hazed by the elders, good times and all that s#!t, then you come along with that garbage (no offense to the gay community). Grow the hell up man, there wasnt a need for that here.

    your “no offense to the gay community” doesn’t work..offense taken..thanks

    Paydirt
    what bighokie09 was trying to say is that no one on this site is here looking for porn. if you think that is what we are here for you need to take another look at the page. lets try and keep it somewhat adult here.

  • Brent | September 26, 2007 at 4:43 pm |

    Paul, do you come with jersey?

    Response: “Hahaha, oh you!”

  • djudson333 | September 26, 2007 at 4:44 pm |

    sorry i forgot to put it in italics

  • Rich | September 26, 2007 at 4:45 pm |

    Well Texas wants to be be UT because it’s the University of Texas not Texas University.

  • djudson333 | September 26, 2007 at 4:48 pm |

    The “We’re not I-State” thing reminds me of something I’ve wondered about at times– why are so many colleges so testy about being abbreviated a specific way? Like Texas insisting on being UT instead of TU or the University of Oklahoma being OU and never UO. USC doesn’t want to be Southern Cal, USF doesn’t want to be South Florida; Pittsburgh didn’t want to be Pitt for a while; Ohio State has to have a “The” at the beginning of it.

    It doesn’t make sense to me. ISU stands for Iowa State University. The I in “I-State” stands for Iowa. It doesn’t seem to cause confusion. What’s the difference?

    I hope I’m not creating an off-topic argument by saying this; I generally try to abbreviate things how people want them, as complicated as it gets, but it has just always seemed strange to me.

    Georgia is UGA not UG

  • paydirt | September 26, 2007 at 4:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”148432″][quote comment=”148426″]Paydirt, NOT COOL
    I wasn’t trying “to be cool”. If people are looking for pics of men dressed in drag, they’d like that pic.[/quote]

    yo, Paydirt, we were just having a laugh some of the MLB rookies being taken out of stirrups and being hazed by the elders, good times and all that s#!t, then you come along with that garbage (no offense to the gay community). Grow the hell up man, there wasnt a need for that here.[/quote]
    Further more, there are people I know who have been diagnosed with a mental disorder and turn to cross-dressing for comfort, yes it’s true. and if this site endorses this subject and the crowd finds it what you call good times and just having a laugh, well then this site will be reported for discrimination.

  • bighokie09 | September 26, 2007 at 4:52 pm |

    thanks for that [/sarcasm], Seriously, thanks for the wit, I was being touchy about the pic, it’s not my battle.

  • Joe Schmeltzer | September 26, 2007 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”148441″][quote comment=”148432″][quote comment=”148426″]Paydirt, NOT COOL
    I wasn’t trying “to be cool”. If people are looking for pics of men dressed in drag, they’d like that pic.[/quote]

    yo, Paydirt, we were just having a laugh some of the MLB rookies being taken out of stirrups and being hazed by the elders, good times and all that s#!t, then you come along with that garbage (no offense to the gay community). Grow the hell up man, there wasnt a need for that here.[/quote]
    Further more, there are people I know who have been diagnosed with a mental disorder and turn to cross-dressing for comfort, yes it’s true. and if this site endorses this subject and the crowd finds it what you call good times and just having a laugh, well then this site will be reported for discrimination.[/quote]

    Now this is just getting ridiculously off topic. There are other sites where this debate would be more appropriate; this is not the place for it. Can we discuss Athletic Aesthetics please.

  • Terri | September 26, 2007 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”148441″][quote comment=”148432″][quote comment=”148426″]Paydirt, NOT COOL
    I wasn’t trying “to be cool”. If people are looking for pics of men dressed in drag, they’d like that pic.[/quote]

    yo, Paydirt, we were just having a laugh some of the MLB rookies being taken out of stirrups and being hazed by the elders, good times and all that s#!t, then you come along with that garbage (no offense to the gay community). Grow the hell up man, there wasnt a need for that here.[/quote]
    Further more, there are people I know who have been diagnosed with a mental disorder and turn to cross-dressing for comfort, yes it’s true. and if this site endorses this subject and the crowd finds it what you call good times and just having a laugh, well then this site will be reported for discrimination.[/quote]

    Who exactly are you gonna report this site to? I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again- if you decide to take this site wayyy too seriously and get offended by everything people say simply because you read too much into it, stop reading the site. No one’s forcing you to read it.

  • Broker75 | September 26, 2007 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”148441″][quote comment=”148432″][quote comment=”148426″]Paydirt, NOT COOL
    I wasn’t trying “to be cool”. If people are looking for pics of men dressed in drag, they’d like that pic.[/quote]

    yo, Paydirt, we were just having a laugh some of the MLB rookies being taken out of stirrups and being hazed by the elders, good times and all that s#!t, then you come along with that garbage (no offense to the gay community). Grow the hell up man, there wasnt a need for that here.[/quote]
    Further more, there are people I know who have been diagnosed with a mental disorder and turn to cross-dressing for comfort, yes it’s true. and if this site endorses this subject and the crowd finds it what you call good times and just having a laugh, well then this site will be reported for discrimination.[/quote]
    Yikes. I am outta here! just joking. I actually don’t find those as paydirt put it “cross-dressing” pics amuzing. In high school we would just grab a rookie and stick his head in the toilet and flush .

  • Adam | September 26, 2007 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”148441″]
    Further more, there are people I know who have been diagnosed with a mental disorder and turn to cross-dressing for comfort, yes it’s true. and if this site endorses this subject and the crowd finds it what you call good times and just having a laugh, well then this site will be reported for discrimination.[/quote]

    I don’t support discrimination or anything, but I’m amused by your threat that “this site will be reported for discrimination.” Who do you plan to report it to, exactly? And what would they do about it?

  • Colin | September 26, 2007 at 4:58 pm |

    Is Rob going to autograph the jersey first? That would rock. It would be like the Royals’ fans’ Shroud of Turin.

  • bighokie09 | September 26, 2007 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”148441″][quote comment=”148432″][quote comment=”148426″]Paydirt, NOT COOL
    I wasn’t trying “to be cool”. If people are looking for pics of men dressed in drag, they’d like that pic.[/quote]

    yo, Paydirt, we were just having a laugh some of the MLB rookies being taken out of stirrups and being hazed by the elders, good times and all that s#!t, then you come along with that garbage (no offense to the gay community). Grow the hell up man, there wasnt a need for that here.[/quote]
    Further more, there are people I know who have been diagnosed with a mental disorder and turn to cross-dressing for comfort, yes it’s true. and if this site endorses this subject and the crowd finds it what you call good times and just having a laugh, well then this site will be reported for discrimination.[/quote]

    he, hey, take that up with MLB, and the players union im not personally saying i was rolling on the floor laughing, i’m just that there probably were some people who did. but by showing that picture in question, you may have crossed boundaries. That’s All I meant by that

  • bighokie09 | September 26, 2007 at 5:09 pm |

    ….And why am i defending MY actions. All i did was make a statement about a very bad pic. It’s shit like this that pisses me off. were talking uni-related issues, then someone does something like this, words get thrown around, and feelings get hurt. but i apologize, i shouldnt have even reacted to the damn picture, in the first place.

    Stick to The Unis People !!!!!!

  • Tim Conley | September 26, 2007 at 5:11 pm |

    My first mention today! woo hoo
    The new ISU word mark, (i go to isu) has been unveiled to a less than pleased student bae at isu. It makes us look like we are a small state school. The large state over the top screams, no we are the other guys, not Iowa. Small schools like arkansas STATE do things like that. I have already emailed Mr. Pollard the AD, and await response.

  • Colin | September 26, 2007 at 5:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”148158″]
    That’s kind of exactly what it is. The guy in the orange mitts is linked up to the broadcast and signals (via the very visible orange oven mitts) to the ref when to wind the clock and start live play. It’s a phenomenally interesting thing to watch if you sit close enough.[/quote]
    You should see the TV official in the CFL — red pants or shorts, depending on the conditions; a white shirt, possibly with a red jacket, again depending on the conditions; a red hat and a neon orange flag. He actually stands on the field near the numbers in front of the scorer’s bench during the TV timeout to ensure play does not start and provides the game officials with a ten-second countdown to the end of the timeout via hand signals. In person, it’s pretty much impossible to miss. Or, at least, it was the last time I went to a CFL game.

  • Stuby | September 26, 2007 at 5:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”148439″]Well Texas wants to be be UT because it’s the University of Texas not Texas University.[/quote]
    OU is the University of Oklahoma just like CU is the University of Colorado. Texas is different because it started out in the SWC and not the Big 8, where they did strange things like that.

    Oh yeah, Virginia is UVA not UV.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | September 26, 2007 at 5:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”148425″][quote comment=”148285″][quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]

    Any piece of major league uniform history is a big deal in my book

    Plus, a size 44 will definitely fit me ;-)

    And, I look REALLY good in yellow

    :-D[/quote]

    I take it you’re white then?[/quote]

    Good obscure reference to Monday’s postings!

  • possum | September 26, 2007 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”148448″]In high school we would just grab a rookie and stick his head in the toilet and flush .[/quote]
    I never understood why flushing the toilet with someone’s head in it was “torture.” The water drains out….

    I love the Royals jersey and the raffle. I’m a game worn collector and would be really hyped to add it to my collection.

  • Tim Conley | September 26, 2007 at 5:36 pm |

    The red on red of the i-state logo is horrible.
    As is the two tones of red in the logo. Also to have this as the main wlogo of the university is a BIG BIG mistake.

    As for the unifoms minus the helmets, damn near perfect. As for the ditching of the navy, i was very pleased as well. I had started a facebook group last year about ditching the navy, similar to pauls ditch the black mets campaign.
    P.S. i have never once in my life heread of isu as i-state.

    When Jamie emails me back (he always has in the past) i will let uniwatch know.

    Of course i am pumped about the unifom raffle, i did email paul about it. Do i get extra raffle tickets??

    This day was in general Tim Conley Day. Two main topics, Iowa State where i attend, and the royals my favorite team and my hometown.

  • LouUmp | September 26, 2007 at 6:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”148173″]The Mets had two pitchers named Bob Miller in the early 60’s. One was left handed and the other right handed. One time Stengel called down in the midst of another loss and said, “Get Miller up!” The coach in the pen asked, “Which one?” Stengel said, ” Surprise me!”[/quote]

    Even better, they appeared on “To Tell the Truth” on TV – when it came for the ubiquitous “Will the REAL Bob Miller PLEASE stand up?” both, of course stood up – to much merriment…

  • Mike | September 26, 2007 at 6:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”148441″][quote comment=”148432″][quote comment=”148426″]Paydirt, NOT COOL
    I wasn’t trying “to be cool”. If people are looking for pics of men dressed in drag, they’d like that pic.[/quote]

    yo, Paydirt, we were just having a laugh some of the MLB rookies being taken out of stirrups and being hazed by the elders, good times and all that s#!t, then you come along with that garbage (no offense to the gay community). Grow the hell up man, there wasnt a need for that here.[/quote]
    Further more, there are people I know who have been diagnosed with a mental disorder and turn to cross-dressing for comfort, yes it’s true. and if this site endorses this subject and the crowd finds it what you call good times and just having a laugh, well then this site will be reported for discrimination.[/quote]
    Man dude, my sister is lesbian and I am totally down with the whole gay community, gay marriage, everything. But that doesn’t mean I want to see gay porn…if you can’t respect boundaries like that your just as bad as the bigots that hate on the GLBT community.

  • Idiot | September 26, 2007 at 6:30 pm |

    Paydirt. Your just a freak. Your only posted that beause u must get off on adgitating a bunch of people. Why don’t you just keep emailing little kids so you can end up on Dateline NBC to catch a predator!!!!!!

  • Geoff | September 26, 2007 at 6:33 pm |

    paydirt you crossed a line big-time. you sabotage us with what could be underage porn and then use that politically correct crap to excuse your actions. dispicable. troll.
    if anyone needs to be reported it’s you.

  • BA | September 26, 2007 at 6:39 pm |

    mlb.com is selling shirts for division champs…of teams that have not clinched their playoff spots!!

    http://homerderby.co...

  • jd | September 26, 2007 at 7:03 pm |

    As a lifelong Sooner fan, OU just makes sense to me, in reference to the University of Oklahoma. Got no other explanation than that. But, I’m not sure what the folks in Oregon and Ohio say. Do y’all say OU or UO or something else? Just curious.

  • =bg= | September 26, 2007 at 7:05 pm |

    Just use the term NSFW in big letters.

  • Stuby | September 26, 2007 at 7:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”148494″]mlb.com is selling shirts for division champs…of teams that have not clinched their playoff spots!!

    http://homerderby.co...
    Would any Yankee fan in their right mind buy a ‘Wild Card’ T-Shirt?

  • BS | September 26, 2007 at 7:07 pm |

    PAUL:
    please keep everyone one from killing each other in the forums

    Just because Uni Watch’s colors are green, gold, and red doesn’t mean the red has to be blood

    (Plus, paydirt may have broken the law by posting that pic because i…am…a…minor!)

  • BS | September 26, 2007 at 7:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”148504″][quote comment=”148494″]mlb.com is selling shirts for division champs…of teams that have not clinched their playoff spots!!

    http://homerderby.co...
    Would any Yankee fan in their right mind buy a ‘Wild Card’ T-Shirt?[/quote]
    I would, but i’m not a (insert insulting Yankees nickname here) fan

    GO SOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • schuby | September 26, 2007 at 7:10 pm |

    Can anyone help me out on how to email Paul from the link in the article i can’t figure it out. I once tried to email it from my hotmail account but it didn’t work. Help?

  • BS | September 26, 2007 at 7:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”148503″]Just use the term NSFW in big letters.[/quote]
    and
    [quote comment=”148505″]PAUL:
    please keep everyone one from killing each other in the forums

    Just because Uni Watch’s colors are green, gold, and red doesn’t mean the red has to be blood

    (Plus, paydirt may have broken the law by posting that pic because i…am…a…minor!)[/quote]
    How about NSFA (not safe for all)?

  • Matt | September 26, 2007 at 7:28 pm |

    To Iowa State – What’s the point of letting your fans choose your uniforms if the end result wasn’t any of the choices? The fans didn’t really get to choose.

  • Rick | September 26, 2007 at 7:43 pm |

    Student Logo Creep!

    LSU Fan

  • Squiqqy | September 26, 2007 at 7:51 pm |

    Did you see the brown stain on Julio Lugo’s jersey?

    Also, yesterday during a late inning at-bat, the Nationals Willie Mo had on one black batting glove and one white one.

  • Kris McInnis | September 26, 2007 at 8:34 pm |

    ‘Air Native’? You’re kidding me, right? Nike might as well call the spring line ‘Air Dreamcatchers’.

  • JT | September 26, 2007 at 8:53 pm |

    Iowa State has never had a good track record of introducing good logos, it seems to be they keep managing to go backwards in their logo choices. They went through this back in the early 90’s when I went there, when they introduced the current Cy in the tornado. No one liked the new logo and helmets then.

    I’m certain, as someone already pointed out, at some point they’re going to go monotone, with the cardinal pants, jersey, and helmet. I’d rather not see that, but anything’ll be better than the shiny red jerseys and shiny gold pants they wore at one point. I’m rather sorry they didn’t go with the gold helmets like they used in the recent throwback game.

  • schuby | September 26, 2007 at 8:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”148509″]Can anyone help me out on how to email Paul from the link in the article i can’t figure it out. I once tried to email it from my hotmail account but it didn’t work. Help?[/quote]

    Never mind

  • Stuby | September 26, 2007 at 9:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”148505″]PAUL:
    please keep everyone one from killing each other in the forums

    Just because Uni Watch’s colors are green, gold, and red doesn’t mean the red has to be blood

    (Plus, paydirt may have broken the law by posting that pic because i…am…a…minor!)[/quote]
    And a lot of us read this blog at work and can get in some serious trouble for stuff like that. I would advocate a lifetime ban for Mr. Paydirt.

  • John in Athens | September 26, 2007 at 9:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”148440″]The “We’re not I-State” thing reminds me of something I’ve wondered about at times– why are so many colleges so testy about being abbreviated a specific way? Like Texas insisting on being UT instead of TU or the University of Oklahoma being OU and never UO. USC doesn’t want to be Southern Cal, USF doesn’t want to be South Florida; Pittsburgh didn’t want to be Pitt for a while; Ohio State has to have a “The” at the beginning of it.

    It doesn’t make sense to me. ISU stands for Iowa State University. The I in “I-State” stands for Iowa. It doesn’t seem to cause confusion. What’s the difference?

    I hope I’m not creating an off-topic argument by saying this; I generally try to abbreviate things how people want them, as complicated as it gets, but it has just always seemed strange to me.

    Georgia is UGA not UG[/quote]

    We were “U. of G.” in 1895.

    I thought the A stood for Athens (Like UCLA is U of Cal. Los Angeles), but it does not. We’re the U of Ga.

    Makes for a good mascot name I guess.

  • mjb77 | September 26, 2007 at 9:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”148431″]The “We’re not I-State” thing reminds me of something I’ve wondered about at times– why are so many colleges so testy about being abbreviated a specific way? Like Texas insisting on being UT instead of TU or the University of Oklahoma being OU and never UO. USC doesn’t want to be Southern Cal, USF doesn’t want to be South Florida; Pittsburgh didn’t want to be Pitt for a while; Ohio State has to have a “The” at the beginning of it.

    It doesn’t make sense to me. ISU stands for Iowa State University. The I in “I-State” stands for Iowa. It doesn’t seem to cause confusion. What’s the difference?

    I hope I’m not creating an off-topic argument by saying this; I generally try to abbreviate things how people want them, as complicated as it gets, but it has just always seemed strange to me.[/quote]

    I just think that it’s odd to go to a university named after a city or a state and call it the same as the city or state. I go to the University of Pittsburgh and nobody at the school or around here, not even the media, calls it or ever called it “Pittsburgh.” It’s always been “Pitt,” even in the Steve Pederson era when “Pitt” was banned to sell more merch-I mean “give the school a national identity.”

    So I can understand the abbreviations. If I were to tell someone I went to “Pittsburgh,” they’d ask if I went to Pitt or Duquesne or another school, whereas I could have said “Pitt” and this whole mess would be avoided. Similarly, I’m sure if you tell someone in Oklahoma that you go to “Oklahoma,” they’d ask if you went to OU or another school in the state, while OU is much simpler.

    Maybe I’m just making things more confusing. But I hope you understand what I’m getting at.

  • =bg= | September 26, 2007 at 9:29 pm |

    Here in SF…gonna be interesting if they take down all the Bonds related logos and graphics from inside AT&T Park after this season wraps (which is does, tonight at home anyway.)

  • Mike Engle | September 26, 2007 at 9:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”148556″]Here in SF…gonna be interesting if they take down all the Bonds related logos and graphics from inside AT&T Park after this season wraps (which is does, tonight at home anyway.)[/quote]
    I’m personally wondering who will be the next 25 for the SF Giants. My guess is nobody.

  • joe | September 26, 2007 at 9:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”148441″][quote comment=”148432″][quote comment=”148426″]Paydirt, NOT COOL
    I wasn’t trying “to be cool”. If people are looking for pics of men dressed in drag, they’d like that pic.[/quote]

    yo, Paydirt, we were just having a laugh some of the MLB rookies being taken out of stirrups and being hazed by the elders, good times and all that s#!t, then you come along with that garbage (no offense to the gay community). Grow the hell up man, there wasnt a need for that here.[/quote]
    Further more, there are people I know who have been diagnosed with a mental disorder and turn to cross-dressing for comfort, yes it’s true. and if this site endorses this subject and the crowd finds it what you call good times and just having a laugh, well then this site will be reported for discrimination.[/quote]
    and i’ll laugh at your crossdressing friends too.

  • Patrick | September 26, 2007 at 9:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”148399″][quote comment=”148351″][quote comment=”148345″]The green dots on back of NFL QB helmets, anyone know what they are for?[/quote]
    I’d rather read this than look at pictures of cross-dressing rookies.[/quote]
    Not cross-dressing..but they’re rookies..[/quote]
    Thanks for that link, asshat! Paul, remove this idiot post-haste!

  • Stuby | September 26, 2007 at 10:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”148557″][quote comment=”148556″]Here in SF…gonna be interesting if they take down all the Bonds related logos and graphics from inside AT&T Park after this season wraps (which is does, tonight at home anyway.)[/quote]
    I’m personally wondering who will be the next 25 for the SF Giants. My guess is nobody.[/quote]
    I’m surprised they even gave it to Bonds considering the illustrious career of his predecessor, Mike Felder. :^)

  • =bg= | September 26, 2007 at 10:03 pm |

    well, i don’t know if the stuff will come down..but there is a HUGE BONDS 25 painted on the field in left field.

  • My Name is Not Earl | September 26, 2007 at 10:04 pm |

    One interesting comment from the Iowa State presser: the AD said something to the effect of “94% of the BCS schools have a letter or a wordmark on their helmets. We were part of the 6%.” Well, a few other of the six-percenters have done mighty well in the BCS era. Florida State played in the first 3 BCS title games, and USC and Texas have done mighty well for themselves. And LSU has both letters and a mascot on its helmets.

    Having said that, the new mark has its good and bad points. The main problem is that the “I” is red, and you can’t really see it on the red helmets. They should have either gone with gold helmets or made the “I” on the red helmets gold. Plus, as has been said earlier, the “State” part of the logo is huge. Contrast that with the Mississippi State logo, where the “State” doesn’t dwarf the “M.” I like that logo, but I’ve never really liked that logo on the football helmets. I suppose after seeing the “MSU” on the helmets all those years, and the interlocking “MS” on State’s baseball caps, the M-State logo just looked out of place.

  • jere | September 26, 2007 at 10:17 pm |

    For the person looking for the rookie hazing stuff–the WBZ site has a full video of the Red Sox this year. And the past years of Sox shouldn’t be hard to find at all.

    As for the Fenway 8, it was upside-down (larger hole on top). Then someone here noticed it was gone. Now it’s back, right-side up.

  • Stuby | September 26, 2007 at 10:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”148564″]One interesting comment from the Iowa State presser: the AD said something to the effect of “94% of the BCS schools have a letter or a wordmark on their helmets. We were part of the 6%.” Well, a few other of the six-percenters have done mighty well in the BCS era. Florida State played in the first 3 BCS title games, and USC and Texas have done mighty well for themselves. And LSU has both letters and a mascot on its helmets.

    Having said that, the new mark has its good and bad points. The main problem is that the “I” is red, and you can’t really see it on the red helmets. They should have either gone with gold helmets or made the “I” on the red helmets gold. Plus, as has been said earlier, the “State” part of the logo is huge. Contrast that with the Mississippi State logo, where the “State” doesn’t dwarf the “M.” I like that logo, but I’ve never really liked that logo on the football helmets. I suppose after seeing the “MSU” on the helmets all those years, and the interlocking “MS” on State’s baseball caps, the M-State logo just looked out of place.[/quote]
    I think he pulled the 94% out of his ass. There are 117 “BCS” schools, and 6% of that is 7. Off the top of my head I came up with about 13 that either have a blank helmet or some kind of artwork without words or lettering.

  • George | September 26, 2007 at 10:30 pm |

    Indians playing a “home game” at Safeco Field against the Mariners because of the snow-outs in April. However, they are still wearing their road uniforms.

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • tim b | September 26, 2007 at 10:52 pm |

    here’s a rookie hazing from last year.

    Twins got into town before the last game of the Tribe/Royals game ended, so the rookies had to come into the Jake and watch from the home run deck.

    http://www.cleveland...

    noted in this Twins story, under “Rookie Night”

    http://minnesota.twi...

  • Robert | September 26, 2007 at 10:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”148431″]The “We’re not I-State” thing reminds me of something I’ve wondered about at times– why are so many colleges so testy about being abbreviated a specific way? Like Texas insisting on being UT instead of TU or the University of Oklahoma being OU and never UO. USC doesn’t want to be Southern Cal, USF doesn’t want to be South Florida; Pittsburgh didn’t want to be Pitt for a while; Ohio State has to have a “The” at the beginning of it.

    It doesn’t make sense to me. ISU stands for Iowa State University. The I in “I-State” stands for Iowa. It doesn’t seem to cause confusion. What’s the difference?[/quote]

    Not every school is so testy. With regard to the Cornhuskers, call ‘em NU, UNL, UN, whatever.

  • Paul Lukas | September 26, 2007 at 11:08 pm |

    I step out for a few hours and look what happens. Jeez, people….

    Was it wrong for someone to post a link to a gay porn photo? Yes.

    Have I now blocked him from the site? Yes.

    But should everyone have reacted a lot more calmly, or not at all? YES. For the umpteenth time, people: Just because a flasher opens his raincoat in front of you doesn’t mean you have to respond — just keep walkin’.

    And at the end of the day, it’s just two naked bodies. No, it didn’t belong here, but whatever — we’ve all seen much worse.

  • odessasteps | September 26, 2007 at 11:28 pm |

    I don’t have a picture, but didn”t one of those rookie hazing dress-ups end up saving that one Indians pitcher who was shot on the team bus? He was wearing cheerleader boots and it helped to slow down/stop the bullet.

    do I remember this right?

  • SoCalPVguy | September 26, 2007 at 11:31 pm |

    I don’t know if you have seen this yet, but Iowa State has “stolen” the USC uniform for 2008, thus joining other mid-western copycats Minnesota who has stolen the So Cal look for years…

    Follow the links to home and away shots…

    http://www.cyclones....

  • Terri | September 26, 2007 at 11:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”148580″]I don’t have a picture, but didn”t one of those rookie hazing dress-ups end up saving that one Indians pitcher who was shot on the team bus? He was wearing cheerleader boots and it helped to slow down/stop the bullet.

    do I remember this right?[/quote]

    Yeah, you’re right, check out post 190

  • lemonverbena | September 27, 2007 at 12:55 am |

    [quote comment=”148262″]I’m surprised by the lack of chatter about the Royals jersey and the raffle. Was I wrong in thinking it was a pretty big deal?[/quote]

    if it was one of those M’s rollerball helmets I’d be freaking out, but the Royals suck and that yellow blouse is a nightmare.

  • jamie k. | September 27, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    THANK YOU PAUL!!!

    as a minor, i dont need or want to see that kind of filthy crap.

    thank you for banning him!!

  • Scott | September 27, 2007 at 9:04 am |

    [quote comment=”148426″]Paydirt, NOT COOL
    I wasn’t trying “to be cool”. If people are looking for pics of men dressed in drag, they’d like that pic.[/quote]

    I’m not one for personal insults, but…

    You know, some of us read this blog at work. Nice job, jerkass.

  • Mike | September 27, 2007 at 9:11 am |

    I think you may be wrong about the positioning of the flag patches.

    The US Flag Code in §175(i) states “When displayed either horizontally or vertically against a wall, the union (the blue field) should be uppermost and to the flag’s own right, that is, to the observer’s left. When displayed in a window, the flag should be displayed in the same way, with the union or blue field to the left of the observer in the street.”

    So, based on this, the AFA soccer team IS right.

  • zach | September 27, 2007 at 11:38 pm |

    So…it’s okay for Marc Ecko to deface of piece of American history like that? If Baseball is the national past time, why isn’t it treated as a piece of national historical monument, and protected as such.

    Say what you will, but you have no evidence, just damning speculation, that Bonds used steroids, steroids that weren’t banned btw.

    I’ll just stop, as anyone outside of California will never listen to reason on the matter.

  • RS Rogers | September 28, 2007 at 7:34 am |

    Mike is right in this comment. It is not correct to wear the flag reversed on your right sleeve, unless you are a member of the United States Army. The Army issued a specific regulation some years back reversing the orientation of right-shoulder flags so that it appears to “fly” as if from a flagpole advancing toward the enemy. For the rest of us, the Flag Code is the guide to civilian flag etiquette, and the Flag Code is quite clear that the flag should always be shown with the union (the stars) on the viewer’s left.

    Also, it’s worth noting that every flag etiquette authority agrees that, under the Flag Code, it is always improper to wear flag patches on athletic uniforms. The Flag Code’s definition of “flag” is quite broad; if a reasonable observer would recognize the image in question as a flag, or as part of a flag, then it’s a flag. We would all recognize a flag patch as a flag, so it is a flag subject to the specific ban on use on athletic uniforms as well as the more general ban on using the flag “in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.”