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Buttonholier Than Thou

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Got an interesting note a few days ago from reader Jim Borwick, as follows:

I was watching the Blue Jays play the Sox in Chicago a couple of weeks ago and saw something I found odd on the White Sox home unis. Even though their logo is only on one side of the shirt, the second button from the top is positioned higher than it should be. Other teams obviously do this to accommodate the insignia running across the chest area, but with the Sox there is no need for that. I did a bit more research and discovered that most of the other teams with “one-sided” jersey logos also do this, including the Tigers, Reds, and Cubs — but not the Yankees. Their buttons are evenly spaced.

Have you ever noticed this ? What am I saying, of course you have.

Coupla things here. First, yes, I have noticed that even teams with simple chest logos, as opposed to full-chest insignia, use the unevenly spaced buttons (another team that does so: the Rockies), which has always struck me as a lazy move by Majestic. I’d never noticed that the Yankees were bucking this trend, however, so I was feeling pretty unobservant after reading Borwick’s note (especially after he showed so much faith in me at the end of his communiqué).

But then I discovered that he appears to have gotten some of his research mixed up: Contrary to what he wrote, the Yankees do indeed have the uneven spacing (here’s another example). And although he cited the Cubs among the unevenly button-spaced contingent, it appears that the Cubbies actually have nice, even button spacing on their home jersey (but, as you’d expect, uneven spacing to clear a path for their road jersey insignia).

Are the Cubs the only ones with evenly spaced buttons? Not sure — I haven’t yet had time to check the status of every left-chest-logo’d team, but I hope to get moving on that soon. (Translation: Vince, can you please look into this?)

A more serious research project would be to investigate the history of button placement. Did all teams use evenly spaced buttons years ago, and did this lead to buttonholes in the middle of chest lettering? If so, when did that second button migrate upward, creating the open real estate for the insignia? Is the uneven spacing just a Majestic thing, or were Russell, Rawlings, and other recently MLB uni manufacturers also doing it? I hope to look into all of these questions soon. If anyone has info or wants to contribute any research or their own, you know what to do.

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Rocket Science: New York Times Yankees beat reporter Tyler Kepner wrote a little item about Roger Clemens last week, but it only made the early edition of the paper and doesn’t appear to be linked on the paper’s web site. Fortunately, he passed it along for me to reprint here:

There is a strategic reason, Roger Clemens explained, that he carries a black, hard-shell equipment trunk with him at home and on the road. Clemens insists on putting his gloves in the trunk so they do not get banged up during travel. He wants the leather to be stiff so hitters can not see the movement of his hand as he grips the ball.

Early in his career, Clemens noticed how veteran teammates like Marty Barrett and Dwight Evans could tell what a pitcher was going to throw by reading the subtle movements of his fingers and wrist. Clemens is careful to conceal his intentions, using a glove with no openings that would show any part of his hand or fingers.

Clemens said he tries to never wear long sleeves for the same reason. He might reach deeper into his glove to grip a certain pitch, and he figures that if the hitter sees only skin — not the end of a sleeve — he might be unable to tell when Clemens is changing his grip.

Clemens said he wants the leather in his glove to be soft enough to catch a grounder or a flip from the first baseman, but essentially he wants it firm. If a glove gets even the slightest bit floppy, he said, he will give it to his agent, Randy Hendricks, an accomplished softball player who can use a deep pocket in his glove.

Good Things Happen to Good People Dept.: I don’t know how I ever got by without an intern. More specifically, I don’t know how I got by without Vince Grzegorek, who’s become an indispensable member of the Uni Watch team and a good friend besides. Incredible as this may seem, Vince’s sportswriting aspirations go beyond the realm of uniforms, and lately he’s been trying his hand at non-uni pieces, one of which has just been published by Cleveland Scene (the Forest City’s alterna-weekly). Enjoy it here, and please join me in congratulating Vince.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: There’s an amazing old Montana football jersey being sold on eBay. … That same seller is also auctioning off a bunch of 1930s Montana game programs, many of which have really gorgeous cover art, as seen here, here, here, here, here, here, and here. … Interesting article about the use of the Cubs trademark here (with thanks to Laura Koenig). … Boston College is slated to unveil new uniforms today. … Here’s a minor league promotion I hadn’t seen before: Backwards Night. Details here (with thanks to Jason Adkins). … A few days ago I linked to this article, which reputedly showed all sorts of reasons why Barry Bonds’s swing is improved by his elbow armor (and not just because it allows him to sit on the inside part of the plate). That article has been widely ridiculed in baseball circles over the past few days. But the author isn’t giving up — he answers his critics here. … Someone’s put together a nice little gallery of bespectacled ballplayers (thanks, Vince). … Thanks to Barry Bonds, Mike Bacsik is now wearing MLB’s most famous stirrups. They’re even mentioned in this article about Bacsik, which includes the following passage: “Bacsik is not your typical major leaguer. He wears old-fashioned stirrups. He studies baseball lore.” But Bacsik’s not the only stirrups-clad hurler out there. Check out, for example, last night’s starter for the Rockies, Ubaldo Jimenez (additional views here, here, and here).

 

203 comments to Buttonholier Than Thou

  • Rich | August 10, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    I think the Cardinals are even-spaced on both home and roads.

  • Cathy | August 10, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    Glad to see Paul mention the Jiminez stirrup thing in the ticker. GoTerrerier blasted me in the comments section last night when I mentioned it, putting the Jiminez stirrup issue in the same category as Tampa practice Jersey. I thought maybe I had missed it.

  • Paul Lukas | August 10, 2007 at 9:02 am |

    [quote comment=”130792″]I think the Cardinals are even-spaced on both home and roads.[/quote]

    Sure enough: home, road.

  • Ken | August 10, 2007 at 9:06 am |

    I was flipping through the channels last night and caught some of the southeast regional little league game, and the Georgia team was wearing some pretty sweet stirrups

  • CJ | August 10, 2007 at 9:07 am |

    Phillies are unevenly spaced, home and away. Kinda obvious, but gotta add it.

    Side note: If you search Google images for baseball stirrups, the fourth from the left on the top row, is the fencing image I linked to from this blog. Sweet.

  • GoTerriers | August 10, 2007 at 9:08 am |

    [quote comment=”130793″]Glad to see Paul mention the Jiminez stirrup thing in the ticker. GoTerrerier blasted me in the comments section last night when I mentioned it, putting the Jiminez stirrup issue in the same category as Tampa practice Jersey. I thought maybe I had missed it.[/quote]
    I didn’t “blast” you . . .I’m sorry you were offended. You did miss it. Someone has commented on it every time he’s pitched since his call up . . . .

  • Chris Sk | August 10, 2007 at 9:10 am |

    Not sure if UBS has another trademark but the “3 keys” doesn’t appear to be similar at all to the Cubs trademark.

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • anthony | August 10, 2007 at 9:11 am |

    1977 – “Summer of Sam”
    2007 – “Summer of Stirrups”

  • DenverGregg | August 10, 2007 at 9:13 am |

    As badly as U-ball has pitched in his last two starts, I’m afraid he might be asked to ditch the stirrups.

  • Elena E | August 10, 2007 at 9:14 am |

    A few years ago [3-4 years?], the Cardinals briefly had the 2-high button version, but it lasted only a short time. I think it was even only certain players who wore that version. I can’t find any photos in my on-line file, but I’ll look in my archives at home later. On the current uni, there is actually a slightly longer space between the 2nd and 3rd button to accomodate the logo. In my women’s cut jersey, they put a piece of velcro inside to prevent an unseemly gap.

  • Ken | August 10, 2007 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment=”130799″]Not sure if UBS has another trademark but the “3 keys” doesn’t appear to be similar at all to the Cubs trademark.

    http://en.wikipedia....

    I think they were saying that they would not recognize that this logo spells out Cubs instead of just seeing the UBS in two circles.

  • Shaftman | August 10, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    [quote comment=”130803″][quote comment=”130799″]Not sure if UBS has another trademark but the “3 keys” doesn’t appear to be similar at all to the Cubs trademark.

    http://en.wikipedia....

    I think they were saying that they would not recognize that this logo spells out Cubs instead of just seeing the UBS in two circles.[/quote]

    Great googley moogley!!! It all makes sense now. It was like recognizing the arrow in the FedEx logo for to the first time.

  • Elena E | August 10, 2007 at 9:25 am |

    Never noticed the FedEx arrow before!

  • Taha | August 10, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    [quote comment=”130799″]Not sure if UBS has another trademark but the “3 keys” doesn’t appear to be similar at all to the Cubs trademark.

    http://en.wikipedia....

    I think the possible trademark infringement stems from the the smaller letters UBS that follow and are somewhat surrounded by the larger C. If you didn’t know that it stood for CUBS, it could be confused for UBS in a Red semi-circle

  • Ken | August 10, 2007 at 9:33 am |

    That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.

  • Vince Grzegorek | August 10, 2007 at 9:38 am |

    Hey everybody. Quick question.

    I’m not very versed in this computer stuff, so bear with me.

    How do you do a screengrab from mlb.tv or any other flash enabled gallery? I’m using windows, firefox, and have tried the ctr-alt-prnt suggestion from a post awhile back, but all that gave me was the entire mlb.tv gamecast page pasted into a document, and I couldn’t take just the game image out. Understand? I certainly don’t.

    Help would be much appreciated.

  • Robert | August 10, 2007 at 9:44 am |

    Great job with the writing, Vince. As one of no doubt many who aspired to be a sportswriter but was too cowardly to even give it a try, I wish you the best of luck with it.

  • Joe H | August 10, 2007 at 9:45 am |

    The Cubs need to get rid of the registered trademark symbol on their jersey crest…makes it look like a cheap replica!

  • todd krevanchi | August 10, 2007 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”130794″][quote comment=”130792″]I think the Cardinals are even-spaced on both home and roads.[/quote]

    Sure enough: home, road.[/quote]

    am i reading this wrong?
    there is an obvious spacing difference between buttons 2 and 3…

  • Stuby | August 10, 2007 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”130821″][quote comment=”130794″][quote comment=”130792″]I think the Cardinals are even-spaced on both home and roads.[/quote]

    Sure enough: home, road.[/quote]

    am i reading this wrong?
    there is an obvious spacing difference between buttons 2 and 3…[/quote]
    Thank you. I thought I was the only on that saw a different spacing there.

  • Elena E | August 10, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    I did mention that already. But the 1st 2 buttons are evenly spaced on StL’s uni, as opposed to the uneven spacing many teams use for the first 2 “high button” vs. all the other buttons.

  • ScottyJ in WV | August 10, 2007 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”130798″][quote comment=”130793″]Glad to see Paul mention the Jiminez stirrup thing in the ticker. GoTerrerier blasted me in the comments section last night when I mentioned it, putting the Jiminez stirrup issue in the same category as Tampa practice Jersey. I thought maybe I had missed it.[/quote]
    I didn’t “blast” you . . .I’m sorry you were offended. You did miss it. Someone has commented on it every time he’s pitched since his call up . . . .[/quote]

    Actually, I kinda thought you kinda blasted her, too.

    As a reader who doesn’t always read every post every day, I think a little slack needs to be cut to folks who mention something that’s been discussed previously. Not everybody gets to (or wants to) read post 187 from 4 days ago.

    Remember, Frankie says relax. ;)

  • Paul Lukas | August 10, 2007 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”130821″][quote comment=”130794″][quote comment=”130792″]I think the Cardinals are even-spaced on both home and roads.[/quote]

    Sure enough: home, road.[/quote]

    am i reading this wrong?
    there is an obvious spacing difference between buttons 2 and 3…[/quote]

    You’re right. I hadn’t noticed that because I was too busy focusing on the fact that the 2nd button wasn’t raised up near the first one.

  • Stuby | August 10, 2007 at 9:52 am |

    Visual evidence (I think) of the Giants wearing an even-spaced-button scheme on a one-side-logo jersey in the mid ’80s.

    Gladden

  • Kings33 | August 10, 2007 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”130814″]Hey everybody. Quick question.

    I’m not very versed in this computer stuff, so bear with me.

    How do you do a screengrab from mlb.tv or any other flash enabled gallery? I’m using windows, firefox, and have tried the ctr-alt-prnt suggestion from a post awhile back, but all that gave me was the entire mlb.tv gamecast page pasted into a document, and I couldn’t take just the game image out. Understand? I certainly don’t.

    Help would be much appreciated.[/quote]
    Vine: I recently told PL about a great screen grab program from Techsmith called SnagIT. It will do just what you want, and you can get a free trial version that just leaves a small watermark behind.

    Lets you grab the whole screen, a certain area… keep the hyperlinks… your choice.

  • John | August 10, 2007 at 9:54 am |

    If anyone has any update on the Boston College jersey unveiling, make mention of it. Also, I’m guessing that because no sport was specified it’s for football.

  • Paul Lukas | August 10, 2007 at 9:55 am |

    Incidentally, Jared Wheeler from Mitchell & Ness has just informed me that the raised 2nd button is known as the “pro button” style; evenly spaced buttons are the “regular button” style. I love learning stuff like this.

    No word on what the Cardinals’ style is called….

  • Stuby | August 10, 2007 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”130829″]If anyone has any update on the Boston College jersey unveiling, make mention of it. Also, I’m guessing that because no sport was specified it’s for football.[/quote]
    Hopefully its the classy mesh half-shirt jerseys that Flutie used to wear.

  • CJ | August 10, 2007 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”130814″]Hey everybody. Quick question.

    I’m not very versed in this computer stuff, so bear with me.

    How do you do a screengrab from mlb.tv or any other flash enabled gallery? I’m using windows, firefox, and have tried the ctr-alt-prnt suggestion from a post awhile back, but all that gave me was the entire mlb.tv gamecast page pasted into a document, and I couldn’t take just the game image out. Understand? I certainly don’t.

    Help would be much appreciated.[/quote]

    Do you have any skills in Photoshop or GIMP?

    Hell, even MS Paint could do the job.

    Print Screen, Paste into editing program, crop image to preferences.

    Somehow, this seems too simple me. May just be experience.

  • Latrell | August 10, 2007 at 9:59 am |

    Cubs blue alternate has the even spacing as well.

  • Broker75 | August 10, 2007 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…

  • Elena E | August 10, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    It makes the white space between the E and X.

  • Shaftman | August 10, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    Look in the negative space between the “E” and “X”

  • Shaftman | August 10, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    Look in the negative space between the “E” and “X”

  • Vince Grzegorek | August 10, 2007 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment=”130832″][quote comment=”130814″]Hey everybody. Quick question.

    I’m not very versed in this computer stuff, so bear with me.

    How do you do a screengrab from mlb.tv or any other flash enabled gallery? I’m using windows, firefox, and have tried the ctr-alt-prnt suggestion from a post awhile back, but all that gave me was the entire mlb.tv gamecast page pasted into a document, and I couldn’t take just the game image out. Understand? I certainly don’t.

    Help would be much appreciated.[/quote]

    Do you have any skills in Photoshop or GIMP?

    Hell, even MS Paint could do the job.

    Print Screen, Paste into editing program, crop image to preferences.

    Somehow, this seems too simple me. May just be experience.[/quote]

    MS Paint was what I tried, and it pasted an image that when I tried to move it, moved something like an “imaginary” box, and the image itself was left where it was, but was only visible when the box was over it. Understand?

  • Broker75 | August 10, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”130841″][quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    Look in the negative space between the “E” and “X”[/quote]
    you fu**ers!! that is awesome!!!

  • Paul Lukas | August 10, 2007 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”130841″][quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    Look in the negative space between the “E” and “X”[/quote]

    There’s a similar effect in most standard exit signs.

  • Stuby | August 10, 2007 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”130845″][quote comment=”130841″][quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    Look in the negative space between the “E” and “X”[/quote]

    There’s a similar effect in most standard exit signs.[/quote]
    I see two opposing arrows. Now I’ll be confused as to which way to exit.

  • Broker75 | August 10, 2007 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”130845″][quote comment=”130841″][quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    Look in the negative space between the “E” and “X”[/quote]

    There’s a similar effect in most standard exit signs.[/quote]
    Art, hidden messages with words and letters, just wonderful.

  • Jason G. | August 10, 2007 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    I still remember when I was first shown the arrow. It was something you never notice, but when someone points it out, it’s all you see. It also seems like they intended it to be there and it’s not just a coincidence. This would mean it could quite possibly be the most unsuccessful marketing gimic ever.

  • CJ | August 10, 2007 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment=”130843″]Do you have any skills in Photoshop or GIMP?

    Hell, even MS Paint could do the job.

    Print Screen, Paste into editing program, crop image to preferences.

    Somehow, this seems too simple me. May just be experience.[/quote]

    MS Paint was what I tried, and it pasted an image that when I tried to move it, moved something like an “imaginary” box, and the image itself was left where it was, but was only visible when the box was over it. Understand?[/quote]

    No. =P

    I can try and give step by step instructions for you to try.

    1. Print Screen (just hit the key) when you are at whatever frame you need.

    2. Open Paint

    3. Ctrl V or go Edit -> Paste

    4. It should give you an error message. Hit yes.

    5. Click one of the other tools, then click the rectangular dotted line tool.

    6. Box whatever you need.

    7. Ctrl X or Edit -> Cut.

    8. Ctrl A to select everything.

    9. Delete key

    10. Ctrl V or Edit -> Paste

    That’s how to isolate. It leaves a large white background that I don’t know how to get rid of in Paint.

  • CJ | August 10, 2007 at 10:17 am |

    That was probably inefficient. Anyone else with ideas, specifically the elimination of the leftover size from the copy/paste?

  • Trump1010 | August 10, 2007 at 10:18 am |

    Anyone watch the Colts/Cowboys game last night? From the Uni-Etiquette discussion from the other day… there was a family of 3 at the game one wore a Steelers jersey, another the Lions and the other I believe can’t remember (don’t flame me if I’m wrong) was a Jets jersey… I mean, c’mon, none of them were even in the same region of the country!

  • Shaftman | August 10, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”130848″][quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    I still remember when I was first shown the arrow. It was something you never notice, but when someone points it out, it’s all you see. It also seems like they intended it to be there and it’s not just a coincidence. This would mean it could quite possibly be the most unsuccessful marketing gimic ever.[/quote]

    It seems like it was intentional. Read More.

  • Anthony M | August 10, 2007 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”130847″][quote comment=”130845″][quote comment=”130841″][quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    Look in the negative space between the “E” and “X”[/quote]

    There’s a similar effect in most standard exit signs.[/quote]
    Art, hidden messages with words and letters, just wonderful.[/quote]

    I read an article a while back about how the creator of the logo had to manipulate the font a lot to create that arrow. I’ll see if I can find it.

  • Anthony M | August 10, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    Here it is (FedEx logo creator).

  • Cathy | August 10, 2007 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”130820″]The Cubs need to get rid of the registered trademark symbol on their jersey crest…makes it look like a cheap replica![/quote]

    I never noticed that before, good catch.

  • Erich | August 10, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    I have a Red Cardinals BP Jersey from last season and the prior seasons and it has the 2 top buttons real close to each other…

  • John | August 10, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    The Big Ten does the same thing with the negative space, making the number “11” appear in reference to the 11-schools in the conference (it increased when Penn State joined, but the conference elected to keep its name in tact).

    This can be seen here

  • JJWasz | August 10, 2007 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”130847″][quote comment=”130845″][quote comment=”130841″][quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    Look in the negative space between the “E” and “X”[/quote]

    There’s a similar effect in most standard exit signs.[/quote]
    Art, hidden messages with words and letters, just wonderful.[/quote]

    Kinda like this?

  • Stuby | August 10, 2007 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”130859″]Here it is (FedEx logo creator).[/quote]
    Thanks, Anthony M. BTW, that Lindon Leader dude looks alot like Tim Gunn from ‘Project Runway’.

  • Teebz | August 10, 2007 at 10:33 am |

    Vince, I use a free program you can find on the ‘Net called ZapGrab. I’ve never had a problem grabbing any images except on Windows Media Player.

    Flash pictures/movies are an easy grab with that program. It’s simply highlighting the area you want to capture, and then pasting into MS Paint.

  • Dwight | August 10, 2007 at 10:38 am |

    Despite the “Roy Hobbs-esque” quality of the moment, was anyone else (especially Red-bird nation)dissapointed in Ankiel not wearing the striped hose last night?

  • Greg | August 10, 2007 at 10:41 am |

    Uni Watch just got a shout out on The Ticket, 1310 AM, here in Dallas in regards to the green sticker on football helmets this year.

  • Ian K | August 10, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    Okay, who just called into 1310 The Ticket morning show? The morning drive team is asking about the green dot on helmet. The caller explained it and dropped “find out more at Uni Watch Blog” on air!

  • GoTerriers | August 10, 2007 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”130862″]The Big Ten does the same thing with the negative space, making the number “11” appear in reference to the 11-schools in the conference (it increased when Penn State joined, but the conference elected to keep its name in tact).

    This can be seen here[/quote]

    I’m no designer, but the Big Ten(Eleven) seems very forced and contrived to me. The indentation in the downward stroke of the “T” sticks out like a sore thumbs.
    The FedEx arrow is much more natural and graceful to me . . .

  • Christopher | August 10, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”130843″][quote comment=”130832″][quote comment=”130814″]Hey everybody. Quick question.

    I’m not very versed in this computer stuff, so bear with me.

    How do you do a screengrab from mlb.tv or any other flash enabled gallery? I’m using windows, firefox, and have tried the ctr-alt-prnt suggestion from a post awhile back, but all that gave me was the entire mlb.tv gamecast page pasted into a document, and I couldn’t take just the game image out. Understand? I certainly don’t.

    Help would be much appreciated.[/quote]

    Do you have any skills in Photoshop or GIMP?

    Hell, even MS Paint could do the job.

    Print Screen, Paste into editing program, crop image to preferences.

    Somehow, this seems too simple me. May just be experience.[/quote]

    MS Paint was what I tried, and it pasted an image that when I tried to move it, moved something like an “imaginary” box, and the image itself was left where it was, but was only visible when the box was over it. Understand?[/quote]

    Open Window Media Player

    Then go to Tools | Options

    In Options, select the Performance Tab

    Way below you click on the Advanced Button

    Uncheck “Use Overlays’

    Click Ok

    And you are ready.

    NOW you can do normal old screen caps.

    More info:
    http://www.quickonli...

  • Chad E. | August 10, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    Petyon Manning had a little green circle sticker on the back of his helmet last night. Made me think of a poison control sticker.

  • JP | August 10, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    Paul,
    I tried the screen grab of a streamed Windows Media file (like MLBTV) and it did some bizarre things.

    Try right clicking on the playing video, go to “options” and turn OFF “video acceleration” or “Web acceleration (can’t remember which its called). That should help you grab the image instead of an empty box.

  • Ian K | August 10, 2007 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”130875″][quote comment=”130862″]The Big Ten does the same thing with the negative space, making the number “11” appear in reference to the 11-schools in the conference (it increased when Penn State joined, but the conference elected to keep its name in tact).

    This can be seen here[/quote]

    I’m no designer, but the Big Ten(Eleven) seems very forced and contrived to me. The indentation in the downward stroke of the “T” sticks out like a sore thumbs.
    The FedEx arrow is much more natural and graceful to me . . .[/quote]

    Agreed, but it’s still a neat visual. I’d like to know what the Big Ten is planning on doing if they add a 12th team. Now there’s a challenge…

  • Chad G | August 10, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”130882″]Paul,
    I tried the screen grab of a streamed Windows Media file (like MLBTV) and it did some bizarre things.

    Try right clicking on the playing video, go to “options” and turn OFF “video acceleration” or “Web acceleration (can’t remember which its called). That should help you grab the image instead of an empty box.[/quote]

    you want to disable ovelays like it says above, not video acceleration.

    PS, I use Screenhunter 4.0 free which you can get from download.com for as it says in the name, free. It works very well.

  • Murphy | August 10, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    I was taking a quick look at some of my older baseball cards and saw some interesting things having to do with the button holes. Sorry, but I don’t have access to a scanner at the moment but you may be able to find samples somewhere on the ‘net.
    First, I noticed that the Cards (see 1970 Topps Lou Brock #330) had the Pro Button style but the logo rode higher than it does now. The number also seems a little bigger and it seems that the bat is angled a little higher on the right (the Cardinal is about on his left shoulder).
    Also, the Cubs Road had both the Pro and Regular styles. You can’t be sure these photos were taken during the same season but Billy Williams (1970 Topps #170) has the Pro style while Ernie Banks (1970 Topps #630) has the Regular style where the button rests inside the 2nd “C”.
    The White Sox also wore the Regular style (70T Luis Aparicio #315) where the button also resides within the second “c” (GREAT uniforms, those, with the white lettering and the white socks).
    I also see that the Reds wore the Regular style in the 1971 Topps card of Don Gullett (#124) where the button rests smack-dab in-between the 2nd “NI” but there is evidence that the Expos wore the Pro style with their left-only logo as seen in the 1970 Topps card of Mack Jones (#38). So, I guess it was a little haphazard at best.

  • Paul Lukas | August 10, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”130860″][quote comment=”130820″]The Cubs need to get rid of the registered trademark symbol on their jersey crest…makes it look like a cheap replica![/quote]

    I never noticed that before, good catch.[/quote]

    I wrote a column about this back in Uni Watch’s Village Voice days.

  • Pat | August 10, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”130824″][quote comment=”130798″][quote comment=”130793″]Glad to see Paul mention the Jiminez stirrup thing in the ticker. GoTerrerier blasted me in the comments section last night when I mentioned it, putting the Jiminez stirrup issue in the same category as Tampa practice Jersey. I thought maybe I had missed it.[/quote]
    I didn’t “blast” you . . .I’m sorry you were offended. You did miss it. Someone has commented on it every time he’s pitched since his call up . . . .[/quote]

    Actually, I kinda thought you kinda blasted her, too.

    As a reader who doesn’t always read every post every day, I think a little slack needs to be cut to folks who mention something that’s been discussed previously. Not everybody gets to (or wants to) read post 187 from 4 days ago.

    Remember, Frankie says relax. ;)[/quote]

    I completely agree. I think there is kind of Uni-Watch holier than thou (to go along with the title of today’s post) attitude. Kind of like when someone got jumped on about a week ago for bringing up the Tampa Bay practice jersey number font. Yea, so some of us had seen it before and it had been discussed before on this site. If so, just ignore it. Is that so hard, instead of giving a wise ass answer or saying “I’m so sick of people saying this or that!”

    I think a little common courtesy should be shown to new comers who don’t know what has been and has not been discussed.

    Give em a break guys.

  • Flip | August 10, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    Nice to see some love today for purple.

  • Johnny O | August 10, 2007 at 11:30 am |

    I find all of this “negative space” in logos extremely interesting. Does anyone have other logos they can share with the “awesomeness” of the FedEx logo???

  • Kerry | August 10, 2007 at 11:38 am |

    [quote comment=”130875″][quote comment=”130862″]The Big Ten does the same thing with the negative space, making the number “11” appear in reference to the 11-schools in the conference (it increased when Penn State joined, but the conference elected to keep its name in tact).

    This can be seen here[/quote]

    I’m no designer, but the Big Ten(Eleven) seems very forced and contrived to me. The indentation in the downward stroke of the “T” sticks out like a sore thumbs.
    The FedEx arrow is much more natural and graceful to me . . .[/quote]
    Maybe, but it’s still very effective. Most people don’t even realize it’s there until you point it out to them. Since you’re looking at it from a standpoint of knowing it’s there, it seems to stand out more.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | August 10, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    Borderline sacrilege

  • Dan | August 10, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”130849″][quote comment=”130843″]Do you have any skills in Photoshop or GIMP?

    Hell, even MS Paint could do the job.

    Print Screen, Paste into editing program, crop image to preferences.

    Somehow, this seems too simple me. May just be experience.[/quote]

    MS Paint was what I tried, and it pasted an image that when I tried to move it, moved something like an “imaginary” box, and the image itself was left where it was, but was only visible when the box was over it. Understand?[/quote]

    No. =P

    I can try and give step by step instructions for you to try.

    1. Print Screen (just hit the key) when you are at whatever frame you need.

    2. Open Paint

    3. Ctrl V or go Edit -> Paste

    4. It should give you an error message. Hit yes.

    5. Click one of the other tools, then click the rectangular dotted line tool.

    6. Box whatever you need.

    7. Ctrl X or Edit -> Cut.

    8. Ctrl A to select everything.

    9. Delete key

    10. Ctrl V or Edit -> Paste

    That’s how to isolate. It leaves a large white background that I don’t know how to get rid of in Paint.[/quote]

    Instead of deleting everything, after copying the desired image:

    1. go to File — New
    2. Image — Attributes
    3. Adjust the image size to a size that is smaller than the image you copied.
    4. Paste the copied image and the “white background” should expand to exactly that size.

    Hope that was clear and helpful.

  • Kerry | August 10, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment=”130899″]Nice to see some love today for purple.[/quote]
    More love for purple here today.

    Northwestern State (La) recently announced a change in their unis from THIS and THIS last year to THIS, THIS and THIS.

    I really hate the trend of schools going to this more Nike-esque Denver Broncos style unis. GARBAGE!

  • Anthony Verna | August 10, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    Vince, welcome to the world of alternative weekly writing! The Free Times printed a couple articles of mine waaaaay back in 1999. It’s a shame that paper has been in shambles, as their archives don’t go back that far on the website (http://www.freetimes...)

  • Dustin | August 10, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    I’m surprised that the Yankees have that same issue with the buttonholes on their home jersey, especially since I believe adidas makes their uniforms (and with the MLB rules about logos, the three-stripe isn’t allowed on the sleeve like Majestic is).

  • S Bennett | August 10, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”130827″]Visual evidence (I think) of the Giants wearing an even-spaced-button scheme on a one-side-logo jersey in the mid ’80s.

    Gladden[/quote]

    I see the Giants wore contrasting-coloured buttons on their uniforms back then. How many teams do that now?

    If you have different coloured buttons, the pro-button style will look strange. That configuration only works with same coloured buttons and shirts.

    Do the shirts still have a velcro tab to close the gap between buttons?

    SB

  • PattyB23 | August 10, 2007 at 11:48 am |

    I know this is a few days late, but I’ve been under the weather. I was at the Dave Matthews Band concert in Camden, NJ on Wednesday night and DMB’s drummer, Carter Beauford, was sporting some logo creep. I don’t have any pictures, but from the jumbo video monitors, it was clear that Beauford was wearing Under Armour wristbands and Footjoy golf gloves while we drummed. Guest trumpeter Roshown Ross also sports a Brian Dawkins jersey much to the delight of the Philly audienece.

  • Joe H | August 10, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”130897″][quote comment=”130860″][quote comment=”130820″]The Cubs need to get rid of the registered trademark symbol on their jersey crest…makes it look like a cheap replica![/quote]

    I never noticed that before, good catch.[/quote]

    I wrote a column about this back in Uni Watch’s Village Voice days.[/quote]

    Great story…but what a weak explanation by everyone involved! Just take the dam thing off then!

  • Joe H | August 10, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”130914″]I know this is a few days late, but I’ve been under the weather. I was at the Dave Matthews Band concert in Camden, NJ on Wednesday night and DMB’s drummer, Carter Beauford, was sporting some logo creep. I don’t have any pictures, but from the jumbo video monitors, it was clear that Beauford was wearing Under Armour wristbands and Footjoy golf gloves while we drummed. Guest trumpeter Roshown Ross also sports a Brian Dawkins jersey much to the delight of the Philly audienece.[/quote]

    Carter Beauford has been know to rock out hockey jerseys too!

  • Joe H | August 10, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”130916″][quote comment=”130914″]I know this is a few days late, but I’ve been under the weather. I was at the Dave Matthews Band concert in Camden, NJ on Wednesday night and DMB’s drummer, Carter Beauford, was sporting some logo creep. I don’t have any pictures, but from the jumbo video monitors, it was clear that Beauford was wearing Under Armour wristbands and Footjoy golf gloves while we drummed. Guest trumpeter Roshown Ross also sports a Brian Dawkins jersey much to the delight of the Philly audienece.[/quote]

    Carter Beauford has been know to rock out hockey jerseys too![/quote]

    See Here.

  • Broker75 | August 10, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    Here is what one fan thought the new Columbus Blue Jackets jerseys should look like. ahh keep thinking..a few ideas for the Florida Panthers pretty good but diagonal sucks__and wrapping the elbow stripes completely around the sleeve as opposed to just halfway.here there are a number of people who are annoyed by the halfway elbow stripes, wonder how they would look on the ice.

  • William Harrison | August 10, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    Red Sox have “pro” buttons on home, road, and alt. Though their old BP jerseys do have even spacing (actually kinda like it, spaces the words out):

    http://graphics.bost...

    Always wondered why they have the pro button on home & alt, what with the tuxedo trim that divides the RED from the SOX.

  • PattyB23 | August 10, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”130917″][quote comment=”130916″][quote comment=”130914″]I know this is a few days late, but I’ve been under the weather. I was at the Dave Matthews Band concert in Camden, NJ on Wednesday night and DMB’s drummer, Carter Beauford, was sporting some logo creep. I don’t have any pictures, but from the jumbo video monitors, it was clear that Beauford was wearing Under Armour wristbands and Footjoy golf gloves while we drummed. Guest trumpeter Roshown Ross also sports a Brian Dawkins jersey much to the delight of the Philly audienece.[/quote]

    Carter Beauford has been know to rock out hockey jerseys too![/quote]

    See Here.[/quote

    I saw him wear a Sixers jersey in May of 1999 at the Vet when the there was a playoff game across the street at the same time. It was definitely too hot for jerseys on Wednesday night. Perhaps a Cool Flo would have been in order?

  • Dom | August 10, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”130901″]I find all of this “negative space” in logos extremely interesting. Does anyone have other logos they can share with the “awesomeness” of the FedEx logo???[/quote]

    Goodwill (face is a g)
    http://www.abvi-good...

  • Cody | August 10, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    I did a little research on the Texas Rangers’ vest and it has uneven buttoning. You can see it best in this picture:
    http://www.dentonrc....

    It’s harder to see in these pics:

    http://www.dentonrc....
    http://www.dentonrc....

  • Jeff B | August 10, 2007 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”130915″][quote comment=”130897″][quote comment=”130860″][quote comment=”130820″]The Cubs need to get rid of the registered trademark symbol on their jersey crest…makes it look like a cheap replica![/quote]

    I never noticed that before, good catch.[/quote]

    I wrote a column about this back in Uni Watch’s Village Voice days.[/quote]

    Great story…but what a weak explanation by everyone involved! Just take the dam thing off then![/quote]

    I had heard something about the Cubs not actually owning the logo in question. That it was actually owned by the Chicago Athletic Club or something and since the Cubs were using their logo, the (R) became necessary. The only thing would be that if this was the case, John McDonough, who is now the Cubs President, would know this. Although 5 years ago I don’t know his status in the organization, and he could have easily just said ‘I don’t know’ just to dispense with Paul.

  • Teebz | August 10, 2007 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”130921″][quote comment=”130901″]I find all of this “negative space” in logos extremely interesting. Does anyone have other logos they can share with the “awesomeness” of the FedEx logo???[/quote]

    Goodwill (face is a g)
    http://www.abvi-good...

    That kind of reminds me of the LG electronics face.

  • Ian K | August 10, 2007 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”130909″][quote comment=”130899″]Nice to see some love today for purple.[/quote]
    More love for purple here today.

    Northwestern State (La) recently announced a change in their unis from THIS and THIS last year to THIS, THIS and THIS.

    I really hate the trend of schools going to this more Nike-esque Denver Broncos style unis. GARBAGE![/quote]

    I always have love for purple in college uniforms, but the new Northwestern State unis are a step down. And what’s with the back number? I realize there will probably be a nameplate there, but doesn’t it seem absurdly low?

  • Chad G | August 10, 2007 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”130927″][quote comment=”130915″][quote comment=”130897″][quote comment=”130860″][quote comment=”130820″]The Cubs need to get rid of the registered trademark symbol on their jersey crest…makes it look like a cheap replica![/quote]

    I never noticed that before, good catch.[/quote]

    I wrote a column about this back in Uni Watch’s Village Voice days.[/quote]

    Great story…but what a weak explanation by everyone involved! Just take the dam thing off then![/quote]

    I had heard something about the Cubs not actually owning the logo in question. That it was actually owned by the Chicago Athletic Club or something and since the Cubs were using their logo, the (R) became necessary. The only thing would be that if this was the case, John McDonough, who is now the Cubs President, would know this. Although 5 years ago I don’t know his status in the organization, and he could have easily just said ‘I don’t know’ just to dispense with Paul.[/quote]

    I got this Vandy game cap and I removed the “TM” stitching. It being there was so pointless.

  • Adam | August 10, 2007 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”130912″]I’m surprised that the Yankees have that same issue with the buttonholes on their home jersey, especially since I believe adidas makes their uniforms (and with the MLB rules about logos, the three-stripe isn’t allowed on the sleeve like Majestic is).[/quote]

    I have no evidence of this other than having read it here at some point, but I believe that Yankees uniforms are made by Majestic like all the others, they just pay Majestic to not include the logo.

  • nybatt | August 10, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    a quick reminder that for tonight’s Yankees-Indians game the entire Indians team will be wearing #14 to honor Larry Doby. A tribute LONG overdue!

    anyhow, from a uni perspective, here’s hoping:

    there are no names on the jerseys
    AND
    pants are worn in “baseball” style, at the knees!

  • Chitown Joe | August 10, 2007 at 12:18 pm |

    Interesting note about the Chicago Atheltic Club (Association) ownign that logo. Check out the logo on their site.

  • Tommy | August 10, 2007 at 12:18 pm |

    The Yankee’s uniforms are made by Wilson, not Majestic. The was also the case when Rawlings and Russell had the MLB Diamond collection license.
    If you purchase an Authentic collection Yankeee jersey, it will be a Majestic. The actual on field Yankeee jersey is Wilson.

    The Yankees do use the crappy Majestic BP jerseys.

  • Frackoon | August 10, 2007 at 12:19 pm |

    I teach post-secondary graphic design– the “FedEx thing” you’re talking about is known in the industry as figure-ground ambiguity. Hartford Whalers logo is a good example. It’s nothing new in design, actually.

  • GoTerriers | August 10, 2007 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”130898″][quote comment=”130824″][quote comment=”130798″][quote comment=”130793″]Glad to see Paul mention the Jiminez stirrup thing in the ticker. GoTerrerier blasted me in the comments section last night when I mentioned it, putting the Jiminez stirrup issue in the same category as Tampa practice Jersey. I thought maybe I had missed it.[/quote]
    I didn’t “blast” you . . .I’m sorry you were offended. You did miss it. Someone has commented on it every time he’s pitched since his call up . . . .[/quote]

    Actually, I kinda thought you kinda blasted her, too.

    As a reader who doesn’t always read every post every day, I think a little slack needs to be cut to folks who mention something that’s been discussed previously. Not everybody gets to (or wants to) read post 187 from 4 days ago.

    Remember, Frankie says relax. ;)[/quote]

    I completely agree. I think there is kind of Uni-Watch holier than thou (to go along with the title of today’s post) attitude. Kind of like when someone got jumped on about a week ago for bringing up the Tampa Bay practice jersey number font. Yea, so some of us had seen it before and it had been discussed before on this site. If so, just ignore it. Is that so hard, instead of giving a wise ass answer or saying “I’m so sick of people saying this or that!”

    I think a little common courtesy should be shown to new comers who don’t know what has been and has not been discussed.

    Give em a break guys.[/quote]

    Consider me humbled and apologetic . . .It was not my intention to offend.

    But I still think we need to draft a letter to Ubalbo Jimenez commedning him on his choice of hoisery and imploring him to wear them “correctly”

  • Flip | August 10, 2007 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”130929″][quote comment=”130909″][quote comment=”130899″]Nice to see some love today for purple.[/quote]
    More love for purple here today.

    Northwestern State (La) recently announced a change in their unis from THIS and THIS last year to THIS, THIS and THIS.

    I really hate the trend of schools going to this more Nike-esque Denver Broncos style unis. GARBAGE![/quote]

    I always have love for purple in college uniforms, but the new Northwestern State unis are a step down. And what’s with the back number? I realize there will probably be a nameplate there, but doesn’t it seem absurdly low?[/quote]

    I hear you. Why simple went out of style perplexes me.

  • Chitown Joe | August 10, 2007 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”130933″]Interesting note about the Chicago Atheltic Club (Association) ownign that logo. Check out the logo on their site.[/quote]

    From here

    “The history of the CAA logo, often confused with the Cubs’ logo, dates back to 1915 when CAA member William Wrigley and other members bought the Chicago team, and adopted the CAA logo.”

  • Flip | August 10, 2007 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”130941″][quote comment=”130929″][quote comment=”130909″][quote comment=”130899″]Nice to see some love today for purple.[/quote]
    More love for purple here today.

    Northwestern State (La) recently announced a change in their unis from THIS and THIS last year to THIS, THIS and THIS.

    I really hate the trend of schools going to this more Nike-esque Denver Broncos style unis. GARBAGE![/quote]

    I always have love for purple in college uniforms, but the new Northwestern State unis are a step down. And what’s with the back number? I realize there will probably be a nameplate there, but doesn’t it seem absurdly low?[/quote]

    I hear you. Why simple went out of style perplexes me.[/quote]

    Of course, this is pretty sweet and simple. And purple.

  • Jason | August 10, 2007 at 12:27 pm |

    I, of course, prefer the no button look.

  • Eric B. | August 10, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    When I first saw that item on the minor league backwards night, I was hoping it meant they put everything on backwards like Kriss Kross.

  • Ken | August 10, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”130948″]When I first saw that item on the minor league backwards night, I was hoping it meant they put everything on backwards like Kriss Kross.[/quote]

    i was thinking the same thing

  • Rob B | August 10, 2007 at 12:35 pm |

    I want to thank Jim for asking about the jersey buttons. I have been meaning to do the same for months. Jim Borwick Thank You.

  • Dennis Abrams | August 10, 2007 at 12:38 pm |

    For how long has Orlando Hudson been getting away with wearing white cleats?

  • Shaftman | August 10, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”130953″]I want to thank Jim for asking about the jersey buttons. I have been meaning to do the same for months. Jim Borwick Thank You.[/quote]

    I actually posted a question like that a few weeks ago, but it never took off so I was thrilled to see it as todays topic. Thanks Jim.

  • UW justin | August 10, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”130948″]When I first saw that item on the minor league backwards night, I was hoping it meant they put everything on backwards like Kriss Kross.[/quote]

    the daddy mac will make ya….jump, jump.

  • S Bennett | August 10, 2007 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”130916″][quote comment=”130914″]I know this is a few days late, but I’ve been under the weather. I was at the Dave Matthews Band concert in Camden, NJ on Wednesday night and DMB’s drummer, Carter Beauford, was sporting some logo creep. I don’t have any pictures, but from the jumbo video monitors, it was clear that Beauford was wearing Under Armour wristbands and Footjoy golf gloves while we drummed. Guest trumpeter Roshown Ross also sports a Brian Dawkins jersey much to the delight of the Philly audienece.[/quote]

    Carter Beauford has been know to rock out hockey jerseys too![/quote]

    This is well late, but wen I aw the Police in Montreal (2 weeks or so ago) Andy Sumners whas sporting a guitar strap with “Oh God! They kiled Kenny!” with the requesite pictures on it.

    SB

  • UW justin | August 10, 2007 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”130914″]I know this is a few days late, but I’ve been under the weather. I was at the Dave Matthews Band concert in Camden, NJ on Wednesday night and DMB’s drummer, Carter Beauford, was sporting some logo creep. I don’t have any pictures, but from the jumbo video monitors, it was clear that Beauford was wearing Under Armour wristbands and Footjoy golf gloves while we drummed. Guest trumpeter Roshown Ross also sports a Brian Dawkins jersey much to the delight of the Philly audienece.[/quote]

    I’m going to the DMB concert here in a three weeks…I’ll try to get pictures of any logo creep/uniform wearing by various band members.

  • Mike Engle | August 10, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”130955″]For how long has Orlando Hudson been getting away with wearing white cleats?[/quote]
    That might be a white shinguard. I’m not aware of any white cleats, but the double-flap helmet goes way baack. (Sorry, but I had to throw that in.)

  • Stuby | August 10, 2007 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”130963″][quote comment=”130955″]For how long has Orlando Hudson been getting away with wearing white cleats?[/quote]
    That might be a white shinguard. I’m not aware of any white cleats, but the double-flap helmet goes way baack. (Sorry, but I had to throw that in.)[/quote]
    Looks like spats. The bottom of the shoe looks black. Kinda like these clown shoes.

  • John | August 10, 2007 at 12:59 pm |

    For bringing up Kriss Kross, I give you all incredible props.

    Any word yet on those new BC uniforms?

  • Jordan | August 10, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    funny thing about the cubs logo—it looks identical to a copyright symbol

  • Stephen | August 10, 2007 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”130848″][quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    I still remember when I was first shown the arrow. It was something you never notice, but when someone points it out, it’s all you see. It also seems like they intended it to be there and it’s not just a coincidence. This would mean it could quite possibly be the most unsuccessful marketing gimic ever.[/quote]

    Article About the FedEx Arrow

  • Bulldog1107 | August 10, 2007 at 1:24 pm |

    Sorry if this has been mentioned, but did anyone else see the Little League World Series last night? Georgia’s team was wearing perfect red stirrups. I immediately thought Paul would be so proud. This video shows them pretty well.

  • Pat | August 10, 2007 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”130944″]I, of course, prefer the no button look.[/quote]

    Completely agree.

    I have always felt that this was a good look. I especially like the elastic waistband/neckline/stirrup matching colors thing they usually had going on.

    That Boston uniform is quite possibly the most gorgeous thing ever put on by a baseball team.

  • Eric B | August 10, 2007 at 1:25 pm |

    i seem to remember hearing that when the Cardinals got rid of the front jersey numbers in ’98, the birds-on-bat logo was enlarged slightly. this might have caused the button spacing to be offset to allow for the logo so i did some googling.

    apparently, the BP jerseys featured offset buttonholes.
    http://www.mcgwire.c...

    the road game jerseys did not.
    http://www.pub.umich...

    neither did the home jerseys.
    http://www.thesports...

    seems odd that the BP jersey would be different.

  • ScottyJ in WV | August 10, 2007 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”130940″]Consider me humbled and apologetic . . .It was not my intention to offend.

    But I still think we need to draft a letter to Ubalbo Jimenez commedning him on his choice of hoisery and imploring him to wear them “correctly”[/quote]

    Good on ya for the apology, Terriers. Very classy.

    I agree with you on the letter to Jimenez as well. If yer gonna wear ’em, wear ’em right!

  • Stephen | August 10, 2007 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”130850″]That was probably inefficient. Anyone else with ideas, specifically the elimination of the leftover size from the copy/paste?[/quote]
    In MS Paint, there are small navy-blue blocks at the edge of the whitespace. These are size handles. If you want a quick crop of a large image: paste the image, click any other tool, and then grab one of these size handles (the cursor will turn into an arrow of some shape) and drag the canvas to the extent you would like. You will want to Ctrl-A (Select All) and move the portion of the image you want to crop out to the top-left of the paint window first, then use the size handles. That should do it.

    For what it’s worth, PaintShopPro or Photoshop are much easier than Paint, but Paint will work.

  • Hank | August 10, 2007 at 1:32 pm |

    Re: Backwards Night. In 1972 the Phillies had lost 18 of 19 games, they tried to break the streak by playing a Turn It Around Night. The scoreboard started keeping score in the 9th inning, lineups were introduced in reverse order, 7th inning stretch happened in the 3rd inning. (Reprint of SI article: http://ruseroius.blo...)

    Didn’t change their fortune, they were still terrible. Although that was the year Lefty won 27 games and accounted for 46% of their total wins (27 out of 59 wins)which is really amazing.

  • Ian K | August 10, 2007 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”130961″]
    This is well late, but wen I aw the Police in Montreal (2 weeks or so ago) Andy Sumners whas sporting a guitar strap with “Oh God! They kiled Kenny!” with the requesite pictures on it.

    SB[/quote]

    Do you mean Andy Summers or Gordon Sumner, better known as Sting?

    I follow you, but it was an interesting typo. And I’d like to see Andy Summers sport a guitar strap with something better than a 1998 catchphrase.

  • UW justin | August 10, 2007 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”130988″][quote comment=”130961″]
    This is well late, but wen I aw the Police in Montreal (2 weeks or so ago) Andy Sumners whas sporting a guitar strap with “Oh God! They kiled Kenny!” with the requesite pictures on it.

    SB[/quote]

    Do you mean Andy Summers or Gordon Sumner, better known as Sting?

    I follow you, but it was an interesting typo. And I’d like to see Andy Summers sport a guitar strap with something better than a 1998 catchphrase.[/quote]

    Link

    I’m pretty sure he meant what he said.

  • UW justin | August 10, 2007 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”130989″][quote comment=”130988″][quote comment=”130961″]
    This is well late, but wen I aw the Police in Montreal (2 weeks or so ago) Andy Sumners whas sporting a guitar strap with “Oh God! They kiled Kenny!” with the requesite pictures on it.

    SB[/quote]

    Do you mean Andy Summers or Gordon Sumner, better known as Sting?

    I follow you, but it was an interesting typo. And I’d like to see Andy Summers sport a guitar strap with something better than a 1998 catchphrase.[/quote]

    Link

    I’m pretty sure he meant what he said.[/quote]

    Damn it…ignore me. I didn’t read the original post well.

  • Jeff B | August 10, 2007 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”130942″][quote comment=”130933″]Interesting note about the Chicago Atheltic Club (Association) ownign that logo. Check out the logo on their site.[/quote]

    From here

    “The history of the CAA logo, often confused with the Cubs’ logo, dates back to 1915 when CAA member William Wrigley and other members bought the Chicago team, and adopted the CAA logo.”[/quote]

    Glad to see my memory has some reliability. That doesn’t account for the (R) on the logo, but it may have just happened to be on the image of the logo given the company making the uniforms at the time and never removed. It’d be cool if there was some backstory where the company lost the logo and scrambled to find another copy and the one they found had that on there.

  • boston_sf | August 10, 2007 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”130969″]For bringing up Kriss Kross, I give you all incredible props.

    Any word yet on those new BC uniforms?[/quote]

    Nothing on the BC website, but I did find this blog entry from August 1:

    http://atleagle.blog...

  • Christopher | August 10, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    Sort-of uni related. A baseball game being played at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Look at the white helmets and awkward striped uniforms on the team in green!

  • Stuby | August 10, 2007 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”130992″][quote comment=”130969″]For bringing up Kriss Kross, I give you all incredible props.

    Any word yet on those new BC uniforms?[/quote]

    Nothing on the BC website, but I did find this blog entry from August 1:

    http://atleagle.blog...
    Wow, all those numerals look horrendous.

  • Andrew F. | August 10, 2007 at 2:08 pm |

    I think we may have overloaded the CAA site…. for anyone interested, this is their logo http://tbn0.google.c...

  • Cathy | August 10, 2007 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”130940″][quote comment=”130898″][quote comment=”130824″][quote comment=”130798″][quote comment=”130793″]Glad to see Paul mention the Jiminez stirrup thing in the ticker. GoTerrerier blasted me in the comments section last night when I mentioned it, putting the Jiminez stirrup issue in the same category as Tampa practice Jersey. I thought maybe I had missed it.[/quote]
    I didn’t “blast” you . . .I’m sorry you were offended. You did miss it. Someone has commented on it every time he’s pitched since his call up . . . .[/quote]

    Actually, I kinda thought you kinda blasted her, too.

    As a reader who doesn’t always read every post every day, I think a little slack needs to be cut to folks who mention something that’s been discussed previously. Not everybody gets to (or wants to) read post 187 from 4 days ago.

    Remember, Frankie says relax. ;)[/quote]

    I completely agree. I think there is kind of Uni-Watch holier than thou (to go along with the title of today’s post) attitude. Kind of like when someone got jumped on about a week ago for bringing up the Tampa Bay practice jersey number font. Yea, so some of us had seen it before and it had been discussed before on this site. If so, just ignore it. Is that so hard, instead of giving a wise ass answer or saying “I’m so sick of people saying this or that!”

    I think a little common courtesy should be shown to new comers who don’t know what has been and has not been discussed.

    Give em a break guys.[/quote]

    Consider me humbled and apologetic . . .It was not my intention to offend.

    But I still think we need to draft a letter to Ubalbo Jimenez commedning him on his choice of hoisery and imploring him to wear them “correctly”[/quote]

    Thanks GoTerriers…I agree on the letter to jiminez, maybe complete with drawings/diagrams.

  • Kerry | August 10, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”130929″][quote comment=”130909″][quote comment=”130899″]Nice to see some love today for purple.[/quote]
    More love for purple here today.

    Northwestern State (La) recently announced a change in their unis from THIS and THIS last year to THIS, THIS and THIS.

    I really hate the trend of schools going to this more Nike-esque Denver Broncos style unis. GARBAGE![/quote]

    I always have love for purple in college uniforms, but the new Northwestern State unis are a step down. And what’s with the back number? I realize there will probably be a nameplate there, but doesn’t it seem absurdly low?[/quote]
    Definitely a step down. I would think that the uni numbers are so low due to the different panels on the jersey – divided by the narrow orange piping abut the numbers.

  • Stephen | August 10, 2007 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”130997″]Sort-of uni related. A baseball game being played at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Look at the white helmets and awkward striped uniforms on the team in green![/quote]

    Tulane’s uniforms look like a green and white version of the Tequila Sunrise Astro’s jersey

  • Sage Confucius | August 10, 2007 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”130948″]When I first saw that item on the minor league backwards night, I was hoping it meant they put everything on backwards like Kriss Kross.[/quote]

    Even their jerseys have the added space between the first and second buttons.

  • Broker75 | August 10, 2007 at 2:15 pm |

    Well in 1911 evenly spaced buttons were present, all the way to the top mind you. 1911

  • Sage Confucius | August 10, 2007 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”130944″]I, of course, prefer the no button look.[/quote]

    I disagree. Pullovers have always looked cheap and easy. True, the wordmark or emblem doesn’t have to be arranged around a split. But that isn’t a difficult thing to do if done properly. The D-Baacks should just go to the pullovers though, because they look terrible. In the Marine Corps we call this, ‘attention to detail.’

  • Kerry | August 10, 2007 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”131002″][quote comment=”130997″]Sort-of uni related. A baseball game being played at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Look at the white helmets and awkward striped uniforms on the team in green![/quote]

    Tulane’s uniforms look like a green and white version of the Tequila Sunrise Astro’s jersey…[/quote]
    Is there anyway someone can do a screen grab of the video? My work blocks youtube.

  • Jeff B | August 10, 2007 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”131010″][quote comment=”131002″][quote comment=”130997″]Sort-of uni related. A baseball game being played at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Look at the white helmets and awkward striped uniforms on the team in green![/quote]

    Tulane’s uniforms look like a green and white version of the Tequila Sunrise Astro’s jersey…[/quote]
    Is there anyway someone can do a screen grab of the video? My work blocks youtube.[/quote]

    Here’s a shot of it.

  • Kerry | August 10, 2007 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”131016″][quote comment=”131010″][quote comment=”131002″][quote comment=”130997″]Sort-of uni related. A baseball game being played at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Look at the white helmets and awkward striped uniforms on the team in green![/quote]

    Tulane’s uniforms look like a green and white version of the Tequila Sunrise Astro’s jersey…[/quote]
    Is there anyway someone can do a screen grab of the video? My work blocks youtube.[/quote]

    Here’s a shot of it.[/quote]
    WOW! Thanks for doing that. GREAT shot. I grew up in the New Orleans area all my life and NEVER saw that uni!

  • Dave S | August 10, 2007 at 2:50 pm |

    Forgive me if this has been covered the last couple days, but I found the concept for the Anaheim Ducks logo and jerseys over on NHL Tournament of logos that I think look really good. Check it out. I would have much rather seen them hoist the Cup in these than the ones they have.

  • Luke Larson | August 10, 2007 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”131021″]Forgive me if this has been covered the last couple days, but I found the concept for the Anaheim Ducks logo and jerseys over on NHL Tournament of logos that I think look really good. Check it out. I would have much rather seen them hoist the Cup in these than the ones they have.[/quote]

    weird striping on the hemline and sleeves reminds me of the islanders fisherman jersey, and to a lesser extent, the gretzky blues jersey. otherwise, i liked it.

  • John | August 10, 2007 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”130998″][quote comment=”130992″][quote comment=”130969″]For bringing up Kriss Kross, I give you all incredible props.

    Any word yet on those new BC uniforms?[/quote]

    Nothing on the BC website, but I did find this blog entry from August 1:

    http://atleagle.blog...
    Wow, all those numerals look horrendous.[/quote]

    True, but they’re pretty much the same as the ones BC has been using since 2000 when they went from this, to this, to this in one year incriments.

  • Flip | August 10, 2007 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”130943″][quote comment=”130941″][quote comment=”130929″][quote comment=”130909″][quote comment=”130899″]Nice to see some love today for purple.[/quote]
    More love for purple here today.

    Northwestern State (La) recently announced a change in their unis from THIS and THIS last year to THIS, THIS and THIS.

    I really hate the trend of schools going to this more Nike-esque Denver Broncos style unis. GARBAGE![/quote]

    I always have love for purple in college uniforms, but the new Northwestern State unis are a step down. And what’s with the back number? I realize there will probably be a nameplate there, but doesn’t it seem absurdly low?[/quote]

    I hear you. Why simple went out of style perplexes me.[/quote]

    Of course, this is pretty sweet and simple. And purple.[/quote]

    I’m trying to visualize how Penn State’s uniforms will look once Joe Pa retires, a new coach comes in and tries an “updated” look.

  • John Zajac | August 10, 2007 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”130934″]The Yankee’s uniforms are made by Wilson, not Majestic. The was also the case when Rawlings and Russell had the MLB Diamond collection license.
    If you purchase an Authentic collection Yankeee jersey, it will be a Majestic. The actual on field Yankeee jersey is Wilson.

    The Yankees do use the crappy Majestic BP jerseys.[/quote]

    The Yankees on field jerseys are still Majestic, every team is now Majestic. On the rare chance that one of the jock tags comes in to view it will be Majestic. No team has an individual contract with any company for their game day jerseys since Majestic took everything over. Majestic Majestic Majestic, this post was sponsored by Majestic Athletic (pretend the little mountain logo thing is here) [/sarcasm].

    And I was at the first two nights of the DMB tour in Mansfield, had a great time, night one Rashawn Ross wore a Pats jersey, both nights (I’m 99% sure) Carter wore soccer jerseys with the Footjoy gloves.

  • Greg | August 10, 2007 at 3:07 pm |

    I was flipping through the channels last night and caught some of the southeast regional little league game, and the Georgia team was wearing some pretty sweet stirrups

    I can’t believe no one noticed the WHOLE team had their stirrups on BACKWARDS! I almost got sick to my stomach.

  • Flip | August 10, 2007 at 3:08 pm |


    I’m trying to visualize how Penn State’s uniforms will look once Joe Pa retires, a new coach comes in and tries an “updated” look.

    Could range from this to http://www.antiqueat....

  • John Baranowski | August 10, 2007 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”131027″][quote comment=”130943″][quote comment=”130941″][quote comment=”130929″][quote comment=”130909″][quote comment=”130899″]Nice to see some love today for purple.[/quote]
    More love for purple here today.

    Northwestern State (La) recently announced a change in their unis from THIS and THIS last year to THIS, THIS and THIS.

    I really hate the trend of schools going to this more Nike-esque Denver Broncos style unis. GARBAGE![/quote]

    I always have love for purple in college uniforms, but the new Northwestern State unis are a step down. And what’s with the back number? I realize there will probably be a nameplate there, but doesn’t it seem absurdly low?[/quote]

    I hear you. Why simple went out of style perplexes me.[/quote]

    Of course, this is pretty sweet and simple. And purple.[/quote]

    I’m trying to visualize how Penn State’s uniforms will look once Joe Pa retires, a new coach comes in and tries an “updated” look.[/quote]

    nah, i think it was lloyd carr’s first year at michigan, and at his first press conference, he made a joke “the first thing we do is get rid of those stupid helmets”

    and NOBODY laughed.

    i get the feeling that’s about as far as the new guy’s gonna get at PSU

  • Jeff I. | August 10, 2007 at 3:11 pm |

    RE: BC Eagles uniforms.

    From today’s Boston Globe:

    “The Eagles today will unveil new uniforms with four combinations, instead of the traditional home and road uniforms. The combos, which will be modeled by Matt Ryan and Jolonn Dunbar, will include maroon jerseys and gold pants, maroon jerseys and white pants, white jerseys and gold pants, and white jerseys and white pants. The Eagles will also wear a black stripe on their uniforms in honor of the victims of the Virginia Tech campus shooting last spring .”

  • Marty Met | August 10, 2007 at 3:27 pm |

    http://bp3.blogger.c...

    Lets Go Devils

  • jesse | August 10, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”131031″]
    I’m trying to visualize how Penn State’s uniforms will look once Joe Pa retires, a new coach comes in and tries an “updated” look.

    Could range from this to http://www.antiqueat...

    Interestingly, if you look carefully, they have updated the uniforms over the years. Most noticeably,

    Late 1980’s

    Current style

    As you can see, the White stripes on the sleeves and collar are much more pronounced. But I’ll do you one better,

    late 1970’s

    No white at all on the home jerseys! Penn State current uniforms are positively gaudy by comparison.

    Most interestingly, all Penn State jerseys are emblazoned with a PSU logo on the sleeve. It is no more than an inch long, and is embroidered on the jersey in the same color as the jersey, so you can’t see it unless you are standing right next to it. If you can find a picture of this you are a better uniwatcher then me.

    Michigan has its winged helmets, Ohio State has it merit stickers, we have plain. We take plain very seriously.

    For the Glory…Beat Florida International

  • Joe Drennan | August 10, 2007 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”131037″][quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    Dumb fuck.

    You really are a dumb piece of shit.

    First your retard-ass misses the arrow and then you further your stupidity by asking, “Do you gotta…” Learn English, you hillbilly motherfucker.[/quote]
    There is no room for that kind of language or abuse of somebody else’s comments here. Since day one those who post have been very respectful of other’s coment if they agree with them or not, or in your case, annoy them.

    It all goes back to Thumper in the movie Bambi – “If you don’t go nuttin nice to say, don’t say nuttin at all.”

    Good day!

  • jesse | August 10, 2007 at 3:37 pm |

    Here is another try at 1980’s Penn State jersey.

    I still get the biggest kick out of watching Michael Irvin drop passes in that Fiesta Bowl, especially now that he is in the Hall of Fame.

  • Shadeymonk | August 10, 2007 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”131037″][quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    Dumb fuck.

    You really are a dumb piece of shit.

    First your retard-ass misses the arrow and then you further your stupidity by asking, “Do you gotta…” Learn English, you hillbilly motherfucker.[/quote]

    Dude, chill out

  • Broker75 | August 10, 2007 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”131037″][quote comment=”130839″][quote comment=”130813″]That arrow in the fed FedEx logo is crazy. I was looking at it and was like where the hell is that arrow, and now I’m amazed.[/quote]
    I still can’t see it. Do you gotta squint?…[/quote]

    Dumb fuck.

    You really are a dumb piece of shit.

    First your retard-ass misses the arrow and then you further your stupidity by asking, “Do you gotta…” Learn English, you hillbilly motherfucker.[/quote]
    I’ll learn english, if you wash your mouth out with soap.

  • Jason G. | August 10, 2007 at 3:39 pm |

    Guys, just ignore this Joe Johnson character. I’ve seen him on here once before and he and his posts were taken care of rather quickly.

  • Chad G | August 10, 2007 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”131040″][quote comment=”131031″]
    I’m trying to visualize how Penn State’s uniforms will look once Joe Pa retires, a new coach comes in and tries an “updated” look.

    Could range from this to http://www.antiqueat...

    Interestingly, if you look carefully, they have updated the uniforms over the years. Most noticeably,

    Late 1980’s

    Current style

    As you can see, the White stripes on the sleeves and collar are much more pronounced. But I’ll do you one better,

    late 1970’s

    No white at all on the home jerseys! Penn State current uniforms are positively gaudy by comparison.

    Most interestingly, all Penn State jerseys are emblazoned with a PSU logo on the sleeve. It is no more than an inch long, and is embroidered on the jersey in the same color as the jersey, so you can’t see it unless you are standing right next to it. If you can find a picture of this you are a better uniwatcher then me.

    Michigan has its winged helmets, Ohio State has it merit stickers, we have plain. We take plain very seriously.

    For the Glory…Beat Florida International[/quote]

    Where did you here about this emboidered Navy PSU logo? I am an alum and I have never heard of it or seen it, and yes I have been right next to the players when the are suited up. Where did this info come from?

  • jesse | August 10, 2007 at 3:40 pm |

    O my god, the guy is a troll, just wait a few minutes and Paul will delete the comments and block the address, just like every time he posts.

    Don’t even bother with it.

  • Kerry | August 10, 2007 at 3:43 pm |

    Seriously…why does anyone respond to his comments? He comes on here every now and then and tries to stir shit up. Just ignore it.

    As for Penn State, I don’t see them making and major changes to the unis. I think that would be prevented by alumni, boosters and anyone else in their right mind.

    Plus, if they stay “in-house” when they do need to find a new coach, I would wager that that person would have a sense of tradition and leave it alone.

  • jesse | August 10, 2007 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”131054″][quote comment=”131040″][quote comment=”131031″]
    I’m trying to visualize how Penn State’s uniforms will look once Joe Pa retires, a new coach comes in and tries an “updated” look.

    Could range from this to http://www.antiqueat...

    Interestingly, if you look carefully, they have updated the uniforms over the years. Most noticeably,

    Late 1980’s

    Current style

    As you can see, the White stripes on the sleeves and collar are much more pronounced. But I’ll do you one better,

    late 1970’s

    No white at all on the home jerseys! Penn State current uniforms are positively gaudy by comparison.

    Most interestingly, all Penn State jerseys are emblazoned with a PSU logo on the sleeve. It is no more than an inch long, and is embroidered on the jersey in the same color as the jersey, so you can’t see it unless you are standing right next to it. If you can find a picture of this you are a better uniwatcher then me.

    Michigan has its winged helmets, Ohio State has it merit stickers, we have plain. We take plain very seriously.

    For the Glory…Beat Florida International[/quote]

    Where did you here about this emboidered Navy PSU logo? I am an alum and I have never heard of it or seen it, and yes I have been right next to the players when the are suited up. Where did this info come from?[/quote]

    I’ve seen it. It’s very small, borderline invisible, but its on the right sleeve. It is a P.S.U in the font that the end zones used to be.

  • jesse | August 10, 2007 at 3:46 pm |

    Also, the way they wear the pads, if they were suited up, it would likely be under the sholder pads. Finally, you would have to be no more than a few feet away to see it.

  • Chad G | August 10, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”131061″][quote comment=”131054″][quote comment=”131040″][quote comment=”131031″]
    I’m trying to visualize how Penn State’s uniforms will look once Joe Pa retires, a new coach comes in and tries an “updated” look.

    Could range from this to http://www.antiqueat...

    Interestingly, if you look carefully, they have updated the uniforms over the years. Most noticeably,

    Late 1980’s

    Current style

    As you can see, the White stripes on the sleeves and collar are much more pronounced. But I’ll do you one better,

    late 1970’s

    No white at all on the home jerseys! Penn State current uniforms are positively gaudy by comparison.

    Most interestingly, all Penn State jerseys are emblazoned with a PSU logo on the sleeve. It is no more than an inch long, and is embroidered on the jersey in the same color as the jersey, so you can’t see it unless you are standing right next to it. If you can find a picture of this you are a better uniwatcher then me.

    Michigan has its winged helmets, Ohio State has it merit stickers, we have plain. We take plain very seriously.

    For the Glory…Beat Florida International[/quote]

    Where did you here about this emboidered Navy PSU logo? I am an alum and I have never heard of it or seen it, and yes I have been right next to the players when the are suited up. Where did this info come from?[/quote]

    I’ve seen it. It’s very small, borderline invisible, but its on the right sleeve. It is a P.S.U in the font that the end zones used to be.[/quote]

    What year was this? I’m just curious because as a uniwatcher and some who was that close to the UNis I can’t believe I wouldn’t notice such a thing. The last time I’ve been up close was 2004, my last year in the Blue Band.

  • Christopher | August 10, 2007 at 3:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”131055″]O my god, the guy is a troll, just wait a few minutes and Paul will delete the comments and block the address, just like every time he posts.

    Don’t even bother with it.[/quote]

    Yeah, and if people quote the trolls it just makes more work or litters the thread with his hate…

  • Christopher | August 10, 2007 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”131017″][quote comment=”131016″][quote comment=”131010″][quote comment=”131002″][quote comment=”130997″]Sort-of uni related. A baseball game being played at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Look at the white helmets and awkward striped uniforms on the team in green![/quote]

    Tulane’s uniforms look like a green and white version of the Tequila Sunrise Astro’s jersey…[/quote]
    Is there anyway someone can do a screen grab of the video? My work blocks youtube.[/quote]

    Here’s a shot of it.[/quote]
    WOW! Thanks for doing that. GREAT shot. I grew up in the New Orleans area all my life and NEVER saw that uni![/quote]

    Too bad the video quality is also very 1987… heh.

    Anyone have a better photo of these unis?

  • Flip | August 10, 2007 at 3:53 pm |

    Most interestingly, all Penn State jerseys are emblazoned with a PSU logo on the sleeve. It is no more than an inch long, and is embroidered on the jersey in the same color as the jersey, so you can’t see it unless you are standing right next to it. If you can find a picture of this you are a better uniwatcher then me.

    Actually, such a steath element would be pretty cool and would be a good way to deter game-worn jersey counterfeiters.

  • Flip | August 10, 2007 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”131069″]Most interestingly, all Penn State jerseys are emblazoned with a PSU logo on the sleeve. It is no more than an inch long, and is embroidered on the jersey in the same color as the jersey, so you can’t see it unless you are standing right next to it. If you can find a picture of this you are a better uniwatcher then me.

    Actually, such a stealth element would be pretty cool and would be a good way to deter game-worn jersey counterfeiters.[/quote]

  • jesse | August 10, 2007 at 3:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”131065″][quote comment=”131061″][quote comment=”131054″][quote comment=”131040″][quote comment=”131031″]
    I’m trying to visualize how Penn State’s uniforms will look once Joe Pa retires, a new coach comes in and tries an “updated” look.

    Could range from this to http://www.antiqueat...

    Interestingly, if you look carefully, they have updated the uniforms over the years. Most noticeably,

    Late 1980’s

    Current style

    As you can see, the White stripes on the sleeves and collar are much more pronounced. But I’ll do you one better,

    late 1970’s

    No white at all on the home jerseys! Penn State current uniforms are positively gaudy by comparison.

    Most interestingly, all Penn State jerseys are emblazoned with a PSU logo on the sleeve. It is no more than an inch long, and is embroidered on the jersey in the same color as the jersey, so you can’t see it unless you are standing right next to it. If you can find a picture of this you are a better uniwatcher then me.

    Michigan has its winged helmets, Ohio State has it merit stickers, we have plain. We take plain very seriously.

    For the Glory…Beat Florida International[/quote]

    Where did you here about this emboidered Navy PSU logo? I am an alum and I have never heard of it or seen it, and yes I have been right next to the players when the are suited up. Where did this info come from?[/quote]

    I’ve seen it. It’s very small, borderline invisible, but its on the right sleeve. It is a P.S.U in the font that the end zones used to be.[/quote]

    What year was this? I’m just curious because as a uniwatcher and some who was that close to the UNis I can’t believe I wouldn’t notice such a thing. The last time I’ve been up close was 2004, my last year in the Blue Band.[/quote]

    I saw it previous to 2004. Frankly, I cannot be 100% sure that the jersey in question was legit, but if I had to bet on it, I would say it was without hesitation.

  • Stuby | August 10, 2007 at 3:57 pm |

    Thank you, Joe Drennan, for bringing it all together with a quote of Thumper. Awesome!

  • jesse | August 10, 2007 at 3:59 pm |

    Not to diminish how close the Blue Band gets to the action, this logo is smaller than two dimes side by side. It would be very hard to see in the stir pre/post game even if you were looking for it.

  • Jeff I. | August 10, 2007 at 4:00 pm |

    New Celtics’ numbers note/quote:

    “House will wear No. 50 and Pollard No. 66. The reason?
    “Because all the other (expletive) numbers were taken here,” Pollard said, looking around a conference room that had the numbers of Bill Russell (6), Tom Heinsohn (15), John Havlicek (17), Robert Parish (00), Larry Bird (33) and Kevin McHale (32) hanging on the wall. . . . “

  • Kerry | August 10, 2007 at 4:03 pm |

    Just saw a picture on a Tulane baseball fan site of the rennovations to Turchin Stadium and it appears that the school is going with a FIELD TURF DIAMOND. Other views HERE, HERE and HERE.

    I know we discussed this a while back and thought some of you might be interested.

  • S Bennett | August 10, 2007 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”130988″][quote comment=”130961″]
    This is well late, but wen I aw the Police in Montreal (2 weeks or so ago) Andy Sumners whas sporting a guitar strap with “Oh God! They kiled Kenny!” with the requesite pictures on it.

    SB[/quote]

    Do you mean Andy Summers or Gordon Sumner, better known as Sting?

    I follow you, but it was an interesting typo. And I’d like to see Andy Summers sport a guitar strap with something better than a 1998 catchphrase.[/quote]

    stupid fingers… It was Andy Summers, and yes, it’s a dated cliche.

    Which is sorta appropriate in a way…

    SB

  • Kerry | August 10, 2007 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”131068″][quote comment=”131017″][quote comment=”131016″][quote comment=”131010″][quote comment=”131002″][quote comment=”130997″]Sort-of uni related. A baseball game being played at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Look at the white helmets and awkward striped uniforms on the team in green![/quote]

    Tulane’s uniforms look like a green and white version of the Tequila Sunrise Astro’s jersey…[/quote]
    Is there anyway someone can do a screen grab of the video? My work blocks youtube.[/quote]

    Here’s a shot of it.[/quote]
    WOW! Thanks for doing that. GREAT shot. I grew up in the New Orleans area all my life and NEVER saw that uni![/quote]

    Too bad the video quality is also very 1987… heh.

    Anyone have a better photo of these unis?[/quote]
    I just found THIS PICTURE of the 1979 Tulane team (as the site I got it from claims). It’s really small, but you can clearly see the striped jerseys and the “Tulane” lettering on the chests.

  • Chad G | August 10, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”131075″]Not to diminish how close the Blue Band gets to the action, this logo is smaller than two dimes side by side. It would be very hard to see in the stir pre/post game even if you were looking for it.[/quote]

    I’m talking close as in after the game we go on the field and often pat the players on the back and such (before post game), can’t really get closer than that.

  • Stuby | August 10, 2007 at 4:18 pm |

    I was searching for pics of the Tulane striped jerseys and came across this picture of, I think, Texas A&M. Dig those stripes!

    I’m also a big fan of the two dudes wearing neckties.

  • Stuby | August 10, 2007 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”131083″]I was searching for pics of the Tulane striped jerseys and came across this picture of, I think, Texas A&M. Dig those stripes!

    I’m also a big fan of the two dudes wearing neckties.[/quote]
    Sorry, can’t get the link to work.

  • Stuby | August 10, 2007 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”131084″][quote comment=”131083″]I was searching for pics of the Tulane striped jerseys and came across this picture of, I think, Texas A&M. Dig those stripes!

    I’m also a big fan of the two dudes wearing neckties.[/quote]
    Sorry, can’t get the link to work.[/quote]
    Here we go…

    Paul, didn’t you do a blog entry about Texas A&M’s library image collection a while back? There are a lot more cool pictures in their collection.

  • rhdii | August 10, 2007 at 4:33 pm |

    New BC uniforms have been released. Strange but the BC athletic site doesn’t have pictures of them. Here’s the best I can do for the new ones. As compared to the old ones.

    Minor changes on the home but what’s up with the white pants? Is it just me or does all white look bad with silver or gold helmets? Here’s betting we see the maroon jersey/white pant combo at home way more often than will look good.

  • John | August 10, 2007 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”131069″]Most interestingly, all Penn State jerseys are emblazoned with a PSU logo on the sleeve. It is no more than an inch long, and is embroidered on the jersey in the same color as the jersey, so you can’t see it unless you are standing right next to it. If you can find a picture of this you are a better uniwatcher then me.

    Actually, such a steath element would be pretty cool and would be a good way to deter game-worn jersey counterfeiters.[/quote]

    Actually Penn State isn’t the first Nike school in the Big Ten to do this. In the Scott Dreisbach era, Michigan had a block M on the shoulders that couldn’t be seen unless you put your face about 4 inches from the jersey. It was an M shaped piece of fabric (maybe vinyl?) stitched onto the underside of the shoulder with navy thread to match the jersey. It was extremely subtle but when noticed it actually looked very cool.

  • LouUmp | August 10, 2007 at 4:40 pm |

    I’m late to this, but damn….now I won’t be able to look at a FedEx truck! arrow….arrow….aghhhhh

  • Stuby | August 10, 2007 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”131091″]New BC uniforms have been released. Strange but the BC athletic site doesn’t have pictures of them. Here’s the best I can do for the new ones. As compared to the old ones.

    Minor changes on the home but what’s up with the white pants? Is it just me or does all white look bad with silver or gold helmets? Here’s betting we see the maroon jersey/white pant combo at home way more often than will look good.[/quote]
    That shoulder logo looks alot like the Philadelphia Eagles logo.

  • Pedro | August 10, 2007 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”131092″][quote comment=”131069″]Most interestingly, all Penn State jerseys are emblazoned with a PSU logo on the sleeve. It is no more than an inch long, and is embroidered on the jersey in the same color as the jersey, so you can’t see it unless you are standing right next to it. If you can find a picture of this you are a better uniwatcher then me.

    Actually, such a steath element would be pretty cool and would be a good way to deter game-worn jersey counterfeiters.[/quote]

    Actually Penn State isn’t the first Nike school in the Big Ten to do this. In the Scott Dreisbach era, Michigan had a block M on the shoulders that couldn’t be seen unless you put your face about 4 inches from the jersey. It was an M shaped piece of fabric (maybe vinyl?) stitched onto the underside of the shoulder with navy thread to match the jersey. It was extremely subtle but when noticed it actually looked very cool.[/quote]

    USC also did this back in 1998 (thats the only year in know for sure), just like michigan’s shoulder M but with the SC logo. The only reason i know is because a friend of mine was able to get an authentic game jersey from the USC bookstore. It was stealth unless you were inches away.

  • simulated steve | August 10, 2007 at 4:51 pm |

    OK, I am fascinated over the Cubs logo in that the Cubs may in fact not own their own logo. Which should come to light during the sale of the team this off-seasaon.

    However, considering that MLB was attempting to register the logo in Japan, could this mean that the CAC does not own the logo?

    Have any other sports teams not owned thier logo?

  • Christopher | August 10, 2007 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”131097″]OK, I am fascinated over the Cubs logo in that the Cubs may in fact not own their own logo. Which should come to light during the sale of the team this off-seasaon.

    However, considering that MLB was attempting to register the logo in Japan, could this mean that the CAC does not own the logo?

    Have any other sports teams not owned thier logo?[/quote]

    From the CAA site:

    The history of the Club’s logo, often confused with the Cub’s logo, dates back to 1915 when CAA member William Wrigley and other members bought the Chicago team, thus adopting our logo.

    I wonder what would happen if the CAA got mad at them? Sell it to the White Sox for a better price? ;)

  • UW justin | August 10, 2007 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”131092″][quote comment=”131069″]Most interestingly, all Penn State jerseys are emblazoned with a PSU logo on the sleeve. It is no more than an inch long, and is embroidered on the jersey in the same color as the jersey, so you can’t see it unless you are standing right next to it. If you can find a picture of this you are a better uniwatcher then me.

    Actually, such a steath element would be pretty cool and would be a good way to deter game-worn jersey counterfeiters.[/quote]

    Actually Penn State isn’t the first Nike school in the Big Ten to do this. In the Scott Dreisbach era, Michigan had a block M on the shoulders that couldn’t be seen unless you put your face about 4 inches from the jersey. It was an M shaped piece of fabric (maybe vinyl?) stitched onto the underside of the shoulder with navy thread to match the jersey. It was extremely subtle but when noticed it actually looked very cool.[/quote]

    the Univ. of Washington did that too. I think it was 1997 (the Brock Huard/Rashaan Shehee era) that had the logo W embroidered in purple on the shoulder of the purple jersey.

  • simulated steve | August 10, 2007 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”131100″][quote comment=”131097″]OK, I am fascinated over the Cubs logo in that the Cubs may in fact not own their own logo. Which should come to light during the sale of the team this off-seasaon.

    However, considering that MLB was attempting to register the logo in Japan, could this mean that the CAC does not own the logo?

    Have any other sports teams not owned thier logo?[/quote]

    From the CAA site:

    The history of the Club’s logo, often confused with the Cub’s logo, dates back to 1915 when CAA member William Wrigley and other members bought the Chicago team, thus adopting our logo.

    I wonder what would happen if the CAA got mad at them? Sell it to the White Sox for a better price? ;)[/quote]

    Yes, but just think of the monopoly on that Royalty fee the Cubs must have to pay to CAC. Unless the CAC was shortsighted in 1915 and signed a 99 year agreement??

  • Chance | August 10, 2007 at 5:01 pm |

    They adapted the logo, making it not quite the same.

    So long as the CAC doesn’t protest (and if they haven’t by now, they have long lost the right to do so), the Cubs should be able to own their version of the logo free and clear.

  • Michael | August 10, 2007 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”131095″][quote comment=”131091″]New BC uniforms have been released. Strange but the BC athletic site doesn’t have pictures of them. Here’s the best I can do for the new ones. As compared to the old ones.

    Minor changes on the home but what’s up with the white pants? Is it just me or does all white look bad with silver or gold helmets? Here’s betting we see the maroon jersey/white pant combo at home way more often than will look good.[/quote]
    That shoulder logo looks alot like the Philadelphia Eagles logo.[/quote]

    The Stripe on pants look like the Redskins.

  • Taylor | August 10, 2007 at 5:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”130969″]For bringing up Kriss Kross, I give you all incredible props.

    Any word yet on those new BC uniforms?[/quote]

    Kriss Kross will make you Jump, Jump!

  • Dan Merker | August 10, 2007 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”130943″][quote comment=”130941″][quote comment=”130929″][quote comment=”130909″][quote comment=”130899″]Nice to see some love today for purple.[/quote]
    More love for purple here today.

    Northwestern State (La) recently announced a change in their unis from THIS and THIS last year to THIS, THIS and THIS.

    I really hate the trend of schools going to this more Nike-esque Denver Broncos style unis. GARBAGE![/quote]

    I always have love for purple in college uniforms, but the new Northwestern State unis are a step down. And what’s with the back number? I realize there will probably be a nameplate there, but doesn’t it seem absurdly low?[/quote]

    I hear you. Why simple went out of style perplexes me.[/quote]

    Of course, this is pretty sweet and simple. And purple.[/quote]
    God bless you — Go Cats!! K-State changed their jerseys this year, but they’re still quite simple and look good. I was so afraid they’d Bronco-ize them.

  • marlowe | August 10, 2007 at 5:51 pm |

    If you go to:

    http://hdl.loc.gov/l...

    you will see a nice 1907 photo of Solly Hofman. The other guy “playing catcher” is pitcher Jack Pfiester. Zoom in on his letters and you will clearly see the even button spacing resulting in the button at the top of the inner part of the “C”.

  • Big Mac Hold the Pickle | August 10, 2007 at 5:57 pm |

    I’m betting this is off topic, but why would anyone want to buy one of these? Those are just nasty.

  • marlowe | August 10, 2007 at 6:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”130942″][quote comment=”130933″]Interesting note about the Chicago Atheltic Club (Association) ownign that logo. Check out the logo on their site.[/quote]

    From here

    “The history of the CAA logo, often confused with the Cubs’ logo, dates back to 1915 when CAA member William Wrigley and other members bought the Chicago team, and adopted the CAA logo.”[/quote]

    ___________

    Let’s be clear about what constitutes the Cubs logo in the Japan suit. I think the issue is with respect to a “C” encircling “ubs” which first appeared on the 1909 Cubs road uni – hence CAC would have nothing to do with it.

  • Dave B | August 10, 2007 at 6:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”130907″]Borderline sacrilege[/quote]

    Sometimes, new uniforms push teams to glory

  • marlowe | August 10, 2007 at 6:14 pm |

    “The history of the CAA logo, often confused with the Cubs’ logo, dates back to 1915 when CAA member William Wrigley and other members bought the Chicago team, and adopted the CAA logo.”

    ———

    This is all nonsense as the Cubs did not adopt the CAC logo (blue circle around a red C). Nothing like it appeared on the uni until many decades later (1950’s), and it always included “ubs” inside the C.

  • William Harrison | August 10, 2007 at 6:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”131101″][quote comment=”131092″][quote comment=”131069″]Most interestingly, all Penn State jerseys are emblazoned with a PSU logo on the sleeve. It is no more than an inch long, and is embroidered on the jersey in the same color as the jersey, so you can’t see it unless you are standing right next to it. If you can find a picture of this you are a better uniwatcher then me.

    Actually, such a steath element would be pretty cool and would be a good way to deter game-worn jersey counterfeiters.[/quote]

    Actually Penn State isn’t the first Nike school in the Big Ten to do this. In the Scott Dreisbach era, Michigan had a block M on the shoulders that couldn’t be seen unless you put your face about 4 inches from the jersey. It was an M shaped piece of fabric (maybe vinyl?) stitched onto the underside of the shoulder with navy thread to match the jersey. It was extremely subtle but when noticed it actually looked very cool.[/quote]

    the Univ. of Washington did that too. I think it was 1997 (the Brock Huard/Rashaan Shehee era) that had the logo W embroidered in purple on the shoulder of the purple jersey.[/quote]

    Syracuse did it too in the mid-90’s with a block-S; you really could not see it in action, but if you bought a jersey (yes, I did) it was there. Based on the schools listed here, it must have been a Nike thing.

  • Chad G | August 10, 2007 at 6:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”131127″][quote comment=”131101″][quote comment=”131092″][quote comment=”131069″]Most interestingly, all Penn State jerseys are emblazoned with a PSU logo on the sleeve. It is no more than an inch long, and is embroidered on the jersey in the same color as the jersey, so you can’t see it unless you are standing right next to it. If you can find a picture of this you are a better uniwatcher then me.

    Actually, such a steath element would be pretty cool and would be a good way to deter game-worn jersey counterfeiters.[/quote]

    Actually Penn State isn’t the first Nike school in the Big Ten to do this. In the Scott Dreisbach era, Michigan had a block M on the shoulders that couldn’t be seen unless you put your face about 4 inches from the jersey. It was an M shaped piece of fabric (maybe vinyl?) stitched onto the underside of the shoulder with navy thread to match the jersey. It was extremely subtle but when noticed it actually looked very cool.[/quote]

    the Univ. of Washington did that too. I think it was 1997 (the Brock Huard/Rashaan Shehee era) that had the logo W embroidered in purple on the shoulder of the purple jersey.[/quote]

    Syracuse did it too in the mid-90’s with a block-S; you really could not see it in action, but if you bought a jersey (yes, I did) it was there. Based on the schools listed here, it must have been a Nike thing.[/quote]

    I think the verdict here is that these are all nike jerseys from the 90’s. The current jeserys probably do not include this feature anymore.

  • Chris | August 10, 2007 at 6:52 pm |

    Carter was wearing Foot Joy golf gloves Sunday in Hartford too. I never would have noticed though if my extremely intoxicated buddy didnt lean over and scream…DUDE….FOOT JOYS!

  • Ryan B | August 10, 2007 at 7:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”130901″]I find all of this “negative space” in logos extremely interesting. Does anyone have other logos they can share with the “awesomeness” of the FedEx logo???[/quote]

    Q. How many arrows are in this logo?

    Novellus logo

    A. 5

  • Adam | August 10, 2007 at 7:55 pm |

    Why aren’t the Indians wearing player names over their uniform numbers?

  • ToasterPoodle | August 10, 2007 at 8:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”131079″][quote comment=”131068″][quote comment=”131017″][quote comment=”131016″][quote comment=”131010″][quote comment=”131002″][quote comment=”130997″]Sort-of uni related. A baseball game being played at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans:

    http://www.youtube.c...

    Look at the white helmets and awkward striped uniforms on the team in green![/quote]

    Tulane’s uniforms look like a green and white version of the Tequila Sunrise Astro’s jersey…[/quote]
    Is there anyway someone can do a screen grab of the video? My work blocks youtube.[/quote]

    Here’s a shot of it.[/quote]
    WOW! Thanks for doing that. GREAT shot. I grew up in the New Orleans area all my life and NEVER saw that uni![/quote]

    Too bad the video quality is also very 1987… heh.

    Anyone have a better photo of these unis?[/quote]
    I just found THIS PICTURE of the 1979 Tulane team (as the site I got it from claims). It’s really small, but you can clearly see the striped jerseys and the “Tulane” lettering on the chests.[/quote]
    Similarly The University of Dayton Men’s Basketball team used to have a navy/baby blue and white version of the Astros unis that they wore in pre-game. In the late 70s and early 80’s I’m efforting a photo, no luck so far.

  • Matt Dub | August 10, 2007 at 8:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”131073″][quote comment=”131065″][quote comment=”131061″][quote comment=”131054″][quote comment=”131040″][quote comment=”131031″]
    I’m trying to visualize how Penn State’s uniforms will look once Joe Pa retires, a new coach comes in and tries an “updated” look.

    Could range from this to http://www.antiqueat...

    Interestingly, if you look carefully, they have updated the uniforms over the years. Most noticeably,

    Late 1980’s

    Current style

    As you can see, the White stripes on the sleeves and collar are much more pronounced. But I’ll do you one better,

    late 1970’s

    No white at all on the home jerseys! Penn State current uniforms are positively gaudy by comparison.

    Most interestingly, all Penn State jerseys are emblazoned with a PSU logo on the sleeve. It is no more than an inch long, and is embroidered on the jersey in the same color as the jersey, so you can’t see it unless you are standing right next to it. If you can find a picture of this you are a better uniwatcher then me.

    Michigan has its winged helmets, Ohio State has it merit stickers, we have plain. We take plain very seriously.

    For the Glory…Beat Florida International[/quote]

    Where did you here about this emboidered Navy PSU logo? I am an alum and I have never heard of it or seen it, and yes I have been right next to the players when the are suited up. Where did this info come from?[/quote]

    I’ve seen it. It’s very small, borderline invisible, but its on the right sleeve. It is a P.S.U in the font that the end zones used to be.[/quote]

    What year was this? I’m just curious because as a uniwatcher and some who was that close to the UNis I can’t believe I wouldn’t notice such a thing. The last time I’ve been up close was 2004, my last year in the Blue Band.[/quote]

    I saw it previous to 2004. Frankly, I cannot be 100% sure that the jersey in question was legit, but if I had to bet on it, I would say it was without hesitation.[/quote]

    I go the PSU currently and I had no clue about this. I wish I would have known about it last week, because my roommate is on the team and he brought one of his game jerseys home after a photo shoot. I would gotten a picture for you guys.

  • Bill T. | August 10, 2007 at 8:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”131164″]Why aren’t the Indians wearing player names over their uniform numbers?[/quote]

    The Tribe are honoring Larry Doby today.

    Larry was the first African-American to play in the AL, and all the players are wearing #14 as well.

  • =bg= | August 10, 2007 at 8:15 pm |

    Niners rename field
    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Eric B | August 10, 2007 at 8:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”131136″]Carter was wearing Foot Joy golf gloves Sunday in Hartford too. I never would have noticed though if my extremely intoxicated buddy didnt lean over and scream…DUDE….FOOT JOYS![/quote]

    shouldn’t that be considered “hand joy” and be restricted to pay-per-view?

  • Dennis Abrams | August 10, 2007 at 8:25 pm |

    Does anybody have an explanation for Hanley Ramirez’s undershirt?

  • Dan | August 10, 2007 at 10:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”131104″][quote comment=”131095″][quote comment=”131091″]New BC uniforms have been released. Strange but the BC athletic site doesn’t have pictures of them. Here’s the best I can do for the new ones. As compared to the old ones.

    Minor changes on the home but what’s up with the white pants? Is it just me or does all white look bad with silver or gold helmets? Here’s betting we see the maroon jersey/white pant combo at home way more often than will look good.[/quote]
    That shoulder logo looks alot like the Philadelphia Eagles logo.[/quote]

    The Stripe on pants look like the Redskins.[/quote]

    From what I can see, it’s a pretty nice and simple change. Love the pants striping. Just hoping and praying that this logo (one of the best logos in history), will make it on the helmet one day.

  • john | August 10, 2007 at 11:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”130918″]Here is what one fan thought the new Columbus Blue Jackets jerseys should look like. ahh keep thinking..a few ideas for the Florida Panthers pretty good but diagonal sucks__and wrapping the elbow stripes completely around the sleeve as opposed to just halfway.here there are a number of people who are annoyed by the halfway elbow stripes, wonder how they would look on the ice.[/quote]

    Glad to see whoever designed the Columbus jersey truly is a hockey fan. At least Adam Foote is still wearing the ‘C’.

  • =bg= | August 11, 2007 at 1:16 am |

    [quote comment=”131053″]Guys, just ignore this Joe Johnson character. I’ve seen him on here once before and he and his posts were taken care of rather quickly.[/quote]

    Boy, what kinda person talks like that?

  • Wayne | August 11, 2007 at 1:25 am |

    I could be wrong, but I think I saw Luis Ayala of the Nationals also wearing stirrups while pitching a few days ago. I can’t seem to find a picture of him online though.