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Switching to a Completely Predictable Color Scheme Is the New Black

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Jerry Glanville has always been such a blowhard. The whole “Man in Black” thing, leaving a ticket for Elvis, driving a replica of James Dean’s car — a shtick as hackneyed and cornball as that has to be earned, and anyone with a head coaching record of 62-71 hasn’t earned jack.

But Glanville and his shtick are back this year, because he’s the new head coach at Portland State, which unveiled its new uniforms yesterday. And in the year’s 9473rd-biggest surprise (right after Lindsay Lohan’s latest rehab stint, and in front of Karl Rove’s refusal to answer a subpoena), the team’s previous green-based color scheme has given way to black. (As an aside, check out the kid on the left — he’s wearing NFL gloves, which means they’re made by Reebok. A rare chink in Nike’s promotional armor!)

It could’ve been worse. According to this release, Glanville originally presented his own uniform design (also black, I’m sure), but that one was discarded after Nike came up with their design. “When Nike presented their new look, I realized I may be in the wrong business designing uniforms,” said Glanville. Yeah, because you probably wouldn’t have come up with quotes like this one, from Nike creative director Todd Van Horne: “We (at Nike) huddled together and said ‘there’s energy here.’ We needed to bring that energy very visually to the field.” Don’t you love it when marketers talk like that? Yeah, Portland State has energy — unlike all those other football teams, which presumably have, like, no energy at all, right?

Such bullshit notwithstanding, the most interesting thing about the new design is the helmet, which features a center spear instead of flanking side logos. The most obvious corollary is probably the Redskins’ old feather design — not a bad pedigree. I kinda like it.

As for Glanville, I’ll say this much for him: If the Vikings or Ravens want to hire him, I’ll gladly contribute a letter of recommendation.

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Membership News: Scott’s been busy with non-Uni Watch work (that boy needs to get his priorities straight), so the membership gallery hasn’t had any new designs for the past few days, but expect to see more designs added by the end of the week, including some real doozies. Meanwhile, I mailed out two dozen membership kits yesterday and should send out about 45 more today and tomorrow. And congrats to new member J.J. Carton, who last night became our 400th (!) enrollee.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Indiana is memorializing Terry Hoeppner with a helmet decal (with thanks to Mark Fightmaster). … I’ll be interviewed tonight at 10pm eastern on the Face Off Hockey Show, whose principal, Scott Wasilewski, sent along this photo of NASCAR drivers Michael Waltrip and David Reutimann wearing NAPA-branded Canadiens jerseys. … “UnderArmour has made a couple of changes to Texas Tech’s football jerseys for 2007,” writes Aaron Dickens. “The jersey numbers will be much thinner than last season and the UA logo will be black instead of white.” … Oh my. … You probably saw this spotlighted in my ESPN column from last week, but just in case: UniformViolation.com is pretty damn cool. … Everything leads back to Bill Buckner (good find by Jere Smith). … “The Harrisburg City Islanders of the United Soccer Leagues Second Division have what may be the most useless names I’ve seen on a team’s jersey — they’re in blue here,” writes Chuck Nolan Jr. ” Also, Harrisbuirg has worn pink jerseys and Cincinnati (from the same league) has worn pink socks.” Ewwww. … The St. Paul Saints have added a black armband to mark the I-35W bridge collapse. It’s interesting that minor league teams are usually more showy and “wacky” that MLB teams, but in this case the Saints’ response to the bridge tragedy is much more restrained than the Twins’ gesture. … Speaking of memorials, have you noticed that the umpires have been wearing “SC” sleeve patches? That’s in memory of former ump Shag Crawford (father of current ump Jerry Crawford), who recently passed away. … The Thai police department is punishing slipshod officers with a novel twist on the scarlet letter (nice find by Matt Brosseau). … AJ Connelly notes that Terrell Owens “has opted for something from Jimi Hendrix’s wardrobe! Something needs to be done about this before Reebok spots it and make it de riguer in the NFL on Sundays.” … Someone broke a record of some sort last night. It had nothing to do with uniforms, so if you have strong opinions about the record-breaker, please post them on a more appropriate forum, not here. Thanks.

 

247 comments to Switching to a Completely Predictable Color Scheme Is the New Black

  • Jason G. | August 8, 2007 at 9:00 am |

    Those Portland State uniforms need some color badly. I don’t understand why you would completely eliminate the green. I like the helmet but the rest of it is way too drab.

  • James P. | August 8, 2007 at 9:06 am |

    I’m wondering if Glanville is color blind. Seriously, it’s like black is the only color he thinks is cool.

    On the Mets fan who cought 756, reports were coming out of San Fran that he had a blood on his face as the cops were removing him from the game. Looks like the friendly folks of SanFran weren’t too happy that a mook from New York got the ball…

  • Patrick | August 8, 2007 at 9:11 am |

    The white square on the collar of the white Portland State jersey looks like a Roman Collar.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | August 8, 2007 at 9:12 am |

    [quote comment=”129896″]I’m wondering if Glanville is color blind. Seriously, it’s like black is the only color he thinks is cool.

    On the Mets fan who cought 756, reports were coming out of San Fran that he had a blood on his face as the cops were removing him from the game. Looks like the friendly folks of SanFran weren’t too happy that a mook from New York got the ball…[/quote]
    …anybody else catch on to the karma surrounding 756? Pitcher who served up: Mike Bascik Jr.
    Pitcher who pitched to Hank Aaron after he hit 755: Mike Bascik Sr.

  • My name is not Earl | August 8, 2007 at 9:14 am |

    Wasn’t the late Mr. Crawford also the father of disgraced NBA referee Joey Crawford?

  • GoTerriers | August 8, 2007 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment=”129899″]Wasn’t the late Mr. Crawford also the father of disgraced NBA referee Joey Crawford?[/quote]

    He was, but why is Joey Crawford “disgraced” (unless you’re categorizing all NBA officials as “disgraced” because of the actions of Tim Doneghy)?

  • Pittsburgh Gunny | August 8, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    I must admit that I do like those Portland State helmets, unique design with that spear thingee.

  • Boston Nick | August 8, 2007 at 9:24 am |

    Paul, those are Nike gloves he’s wearing. Nike is allowed to make gloves worn by NFL players, it’s just the shield on the gloves and no swoosh.

    I believe those are an older version of the Nike Speedtack.

    Ironically, the guy in the middle wearing gray gloves may be wearing another company. Those don’t look like any of the newer model of Nike gloves I’ve seen so far. They look more like Adidas or Under Armour, but I’m not 100% on that one.

  • Anthony M | August 8, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    [quote comment=”129898″]…anybody else catch on to the karma surrounding 756? Pitcher who served up: Mike Bascik Jr.
    Pitcher who pitched to Hank Aaron after he hit 755: Mike Bascik Sr.[/quote]

    Who cares? Dick Drago served up 755 to Aaron. Bascik Sr. was just one of many to pitch to him afterwards. Baseball and baseball fans have a tendency to stretch their imaginations a little much with respect to records.

  • John in Athens | August 8, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”129898″]…anybody else catch on to the karma surrounding 756? Pitcher who served up: Mike Bascik Jr.
    Pitcher who pitched to Hank Aaron after he hit 755: Mike Bascik Sr.[/quote]

    There is a difference between coincidence and karma.

  • Jason G. | August 8, 2007 at 9:30 am |

    [quote comment=”129903″]Paul, those are Nike gloves he’s wearing. Nike is allowed to make gloves worn by NFL players, it’s just the shield on the gloves and no swoosh.

    I believe those are an older version of the Nike Speedtack.

    Ironically, the guy in the middle wearing gray gloves may be wearing another company. Those don’t look like any of the newer model of Nike gloves I’ve seen so far. They look more like Adidas or Under Armour, but I’m not 100% on that one.[/quote]

    I thought thet the guy in the middle was wearing a different brand of gloves as well. However, there is a swoosh on each glove. It’s light gray and it’s on the white part of the glove. That being said there seems to be something weird going on with those gloves. The swoosh could just be for looks and the glove could actually be a different brand.

  • Anthony M | August 8, 2007 at 9:31 am |

    Portland’s entire uniform is an upgrade. I hate uselessly adding black as much as the next person, but how can anybody defend the old uniforms just because they had some green? The old “Vikings” font was too big and ugly, the piping was ugly, the numbers were ugly.
    The simple “Portland State”, the block numbers, and the helmet are all really nice, especially on the white jersey.

  • Pat | August 8, 2007 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment=”129900″][quote comment=”129899″]Wasn’t the late Mr. Crawford also the father of disgraced NBA referee Joey Crawford?[/quote]

    He was, but why is Joey Crawford “disgraced” (unless you’re categorizing all NBA officials as “disgraced” because of the actions of Tim Doneghy)?[/quote]

    He is disgraced because of the Tim Duncan situation he was the ringleader of.

    He is on suspension until further notice. He may never referee again, which would be too soon if you ask me.

  • John in Athens | August 8, 2007 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment=”129896″]On the Mets fan who cought 756, reports were coming out of San Fran that he had a blood on his face as the cops were removing him from the game. Looks like the friendly folks of SanFran weren’t too happy that a mook from New York got the ball…[/quote]

    They never specified who’s blood it was!

    LETS GO METS!

  • Mike Engle | August 8, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”129900″][quote comment=”129899″]Wasn’t the late Mr. Crawford also the father of disgraced NBA referee Joey Crawford?[/quote]

    He was, but why is Joey Crawford “disgraced” (unless you’re categorizing all NBA officials as “disgraced” because of the actions of Tim Doneghy)?[/quote]
    Don’t laugh. He might give you a double technical.

  • My name is not Earl | August 8, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    Crawford was suspended indefinitely (and will likely be fired) after his inappropriate behavior toward Tim Duncan during last season (challenging him to fights, ejecting him for little apparent reason, etc.).

  • GoTerriers | August 8, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”129909″][quote comment=”129900″][quote comment=”129899″]Wasn’t the late Mr. Crawford also the father of disgraced NBA referee Joey Crawford?[/quote]

    He was, but why is Joey Crawford “disgraced” (unless you’re categorizing all NBA officials as “disgraced” because of the actions of Tim Doneghy)?[/quote]

    He is disgraced because of the Tim Duncan situation he was the ringleader of.

    He is on suspension until further notice. He may never referee again, which would be too soon if you ask me.[/quote]

    Oh, that’s right . . . .I can’t get my NBA referee scandals straight . . .

  • Dane | August 8, 2007 at 9:35 am |

    I don’t have a problem with Bonds breaking the record, but I do have a problem with SI.com photoshopping the picture of Bonds on their front page, replace the O in his name with an * on the back of his jersey and helmet.

  • My name is not Earl | August 8, 2007 at 9:39 am |

    The Portland State uniforms are the latest in the long line of incidents where I keep waiting for a team to do what the 49ers did in the early ’90s (1990 or 91, I can’t remember which) where they announced they were switching helmet logos then the next day essentially said, “eh, just kidding.”

  • Teebz | August 8, 2007 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment=”129896″]
    On the Mets fan who cought 756, reports were coming out of San Fran that he had a blood on his face as the cops were removing him from the game. Looks like the friendly folks of SanFran weren’t too happy that a mook from New York got the ball…[/quote]

    I was watching the highlights this morning before I left for work, and it struck me that Mr. Matt Murphy may “Get It”. He wore the a gray Reyes jersey with the blue Mets T-shirt underneath.

    It looked pretty good.

  • Garrett | August 8, 2007 at 9:45 am |

    Actually, I’m pretty sure that Crawford asked for reinstatement for the opening of next season and received it.

  • Minna H. | August 8, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    Ouch. Paul, you diss the Vikings AND black in one paragraph! Ok, I can’t fault you for dissing the Vikings–I hate their uniforms, too–but, surprise, surprise, I like the new Portland State unis except for the piping. They are sleek and FULL of energy.

    I also like the simple black armband from the St. Paul Saints. Sometimes (many times), it’s better to go with the classic.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | August 8, 2007 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”129904″][quote comment=”129898″]…anybody else catch on to the karma surrounding 756? Pitcher who served up: Mike Bascik Jr.
    Pitcher who pitched to Hank Aaron after he hit 755: Mike Bascik Sr.[/quote]

    Who cares? Dick Drago served up 755 to Aaron. Bascik Sr. was just one of many to pitch to him afterwards. Baseball and baseball fans have a tendency to stretch their imaginations a little much with respect to records.[/quote]

    Lighten up – just trying to inject a smidgen of humor into the proceedings. And I couldn’t care less about BB and the so-called record, jsut seemed a little bit more than a little coincidental that a father and son were linked together as the wrong ends of these events.

    John in Athens – I stand somewhat corrected on the “karma” vs “coincidence” point.

  • Michael | August 8, 2007 at 9:51 am |

    What would Glanville do if he got hired somewhere that doesn’t have black in the color scheme? Oh wait, it seems like any team can add black to there pallet without it being an official color. The pros don’t seem to do this much but in college you see it all the time especially in basketball which it has now spread to baseball. If it’s an official color then fine use it if not don’t. Using silver for football pants even though it’s not a school color is a tradition for many colleges, those institutions need to add that to there official pallet, prime example my school UGA.

    Glanville influenced the Falcons to go with black helmet but Blank needs to do a total redesign for next year to signal a new era, if nothing else go with red helmets. I think adding a little silver (or gray what little they have now on the logo look gray to me) back in would be a good idea too. Has it been 5 years yet with new design for this to even be a possibility?

    One clarification don’t let that paragraph fool you I’m not a Falcons fan rather a long time die hard Cowboys fan. Whom I’d love to see go with a standard pallet of sliver-green metallic & royal blue maybe keep the navy but get one silver & stick with it.

  • Taha | August 8, 2007 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”129913″][quote comment=”129909″][quote comment=”129900″][quote comment=”129899″]Wasn’t the late Mr. Crawford also the father of disgraced NBA referee Joey Crawford?[/quote]

    He was, but why is Joey Crawford “disgraced” (unless you’re categorizing all NBA officials as “disgraced” because of the actions of Tim Doneghy)?[/quote]

    He is disgraced because of the Tim Duncan situation he was the ringleader of.

    He is on suspension until further notice. He may never referee again, which would be too soon if you ask me.[/quote]

    Oh, that’s right . . . .I can’t get my NBA referee scandals straight . . .[/quote]

    Don’t forget Joey Crawford also pleaded guilty to tax fraud and resigned in 1998 as a result of the airline ticket scandal. David Stern re-instated him after the lockout.

  • John Zajac | August 8, 2007 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”129913″][quote comment=”129909″][quote comment=”129900″][quote comment=”129899″]Wasn’t the late Mr. Crawford also the father of disgraced NBA referee Joey Crawford?[/quote]

    He was, but why is Joey Crawford “disgraced” (unless you’re categorizing all NBA officials as “disgraced” because of the actions of Tim Doneghy)?[/quote]

    He is disgraced because of the Tim Duncan situation he was the ringleader of.

    He is on suspension until further notice. He may never referee again, which would be too soon if you ask me.[/quote]

    Oh, that’s right . . . .I can’t get my NBA referee scandals straight . . .[/quote]

    Actually, he already applied to be reinstated and stern had said he saw “no reason not to accept” the application. It was in an ESPN Doneghy article a couple of weeks ago.

  • Broker75 | August 8, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    I saw some hilites the other day of the Yankees-Blue Jays, they showed David Beckham at the game and he had a Blue Jays jersey on. The jersey is ugly first of all and it didn’t help that David wore his un-buttoned and untucked. He looked like a pure redneck. I think Beckham was in Toronto to play soccer, with the L.A.Galaxy.

  • Broker75 | August 8, 2007 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”129926″]I saw some hilites the other day of the Yankees-Blue Jays, they showed David Beckham at the game and he had a Blue Jays jersey on. The jersey is ugly first of all and it didn’t help that David wore his un-buttoned and untucked. He looked like a pure redneck. I think Beckham was in Toronto to play soccer, with the L.A.Galaxy.[/quote]
    Actually, I’m not to sure if the Los Angeles team is called the Galaxy..

  • Shadeymonk | August 8, 2007 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”129925″][quote comment=”129913″][quote comment=”129909″][quote comment=”129900″][quote comment=”129899″]Wasn’t the late Mr. Crawford also the father of disgraced NBA referee Joey Crawford?[/quote]

    He was, but why is Joey Crawford “disgraced” (unless you’re categorizing all NBA officials as “disgraced” because of the actions of Tim Doneghy)?[/quote]

    He is disgraced because of the Tim Duncan situation he was the ringleader of.

    He is on suspension until further notice. He may never referee again, which would be too soon if you ask me.[/quote]

    Oh, that’s right . . . .I can’t get my NBA referee scandals straight . . .[/quote]

    Actually, he already applied to be reinstated and stern had said he saw “no reason not to accept” the application. It was in an ESPN Doneghy article a couple of weeks ago.[/quote]

    [quote comment=”129918″][quote comment=”129896″]
    On the Mets fan who cought 756, reports were coming out of San Fran that he had a blood on his face as the cops were removing him from the game. Looks like the friendly folks of SanFran weren’t too happy that a mook from New York got the ball…[/quote]

    I was watching the highlights this morning before I left for work, and it struck me that Mr. Matt Murphy may “Get It”. He wore the a gray Reyes jersey with the blue Mets T-shirt underneath.

    It looked pretty good.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”129925″][quote comment=”129913″][quote comment=”129909″][quote comment=”129900″][quote comment=”129899″]Wasn’t the late Mr. Crawford also the father of disgraced NBA referee Joey Crawford?[/quote]

    He was, but why is Joey Crawford “disgraced” (unless you’re categorizing all NBA officials as “disgraced” because of the actions of Tim Doneghy)?[/quote]

    He is disgraced because of the Tim Duncan situation he was the ringleader of.

    He is on suspension until further notice. He may never referee again, which would be too soon if you ask me.[/quote]

    Oh, that’s right . . . .I can’t get my NBA referee scandals straight . . .[/quote]

    Actually, he already applied to be reinstated and stern had said he saw “no reason not to accept” the application. It was in an ESPN Doneghy article a couple of weeks ago.[/quote]

    From
    this ESPN article I quote “Don’t shed tears for Crawford. He’s asked to return to his job next season, and Stern has indicated that he’ll let him.”

  • Anthony M | August 8, 2007 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”129926″]I saw some hilites the other day of the Yankees-Blue Jays, they showed David Beckham at the game and he had a Blue Jays jersey on. The jersey is ugly first of all and it didn’t help that David wore his un-buttoned and untucked. He looked like a pure redneck. I think Beckham was in Toronto to play soccer, with the L.A.Galaxy.[/quote]

    In my opinion, unless you’re on the team, you wear your team’s jersey untucked.

  • GoTerriers | August 8, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”129927″][quote comment=”129926″]I saw some hilites the other day of the Yankees-Blue Jays, they showed David Beckham at the game and he had a Blue Jays jersey on. The jersey is ugly first of all and it didn’t help that David wore his un-buttoned and untucked. He looked like a pure redneck. I think Beckham was in Toronto to play soccer, with the L.A.Galaxy.[/quote]
    Actually, I’m not to sure if the Los Angeles team is called the Galaxy..[/quote]

    They are, he was and he didn’t play (apparently a “friendly” against Chelsea is more important than a league game)

  • Mike Engle | August 8, 2007 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”129929″][quote comment=”129926″]I saw some hilites the other day of the Yankees-Blue Jays, they showed David Beckham at the game and he had a Blue Jays jersey on. The jersey is ugly first of all and it didn’t help that David wore his un-buttoned and untucked. He looked like a pure redneck. I think Beckham was in Toronto to play soccer, with the L.A.Galaxy.[/quote]

    In my opinion, unless you’re on the team, you wear your team’s jersey untucked.[/quote]
    But please button up! Open baseball jerseys look like rejected lab coats. Not a good look.

  • Wade | August 8, 2007 at 10:16 am |

    You can see what Kansas’s new football jerseys will look like here, and you can see what the helmet looks like at the Helmet Project(unable to link; Google it).

  • Jordan | August 8, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    i want some more leaked hockey jerseys

  • My name is not Earl | August 8, 2007 at 10:24 am |

    Don’t know if this has been covered, but the NFL has come up with a rule requiring that all sideline photographers must wear vests with the logos of certain NFL sponsors. At least one paper in an NFL city has come out against the new rule.

  • Ian K | August 8, 2007 at 10:28 am |

    the most interesting thing about the new design is the helmet, which features a center spear instead of flanking side logos.

    I like the center spear look a lot – very unique. But the tribal designs on the rear part of the helmet is very faddish I think.

    [quote comment=”129896″]
    On the Mets fan who cought 756, reports were coming out of San Fran that he had a blood on his face as the cops were removing him from the game. Looks like the friendly folks of SanFran weren’t too happy that a mook from New York got the ball…[/quote]

    I heard that Erin Andrews interviewed the guy. He said he bought tickets “on a whim” while in SF. How in the world do you buy tickets to the homestand where Bonds is set to break the record “ON A WHIM”? That’s gotta be an expensive impulse buy.

    [quote comment=”129898″]
    …anybody else catch on to the karma surrounding 756? Pitcher who served up: Mike Bascik Jr.
    [/quote]

    No karma – it’s just the BaD Radio curse!

  • Kenny | August 8, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”129923″]What would Glanville do if he got hired somewhere that doesn’t have black in the color scheme? Oh wait, it seems like any team can add black to there pallet without it being an official color. The pros don’t seem to do this much but in college you see it all the time especially in basketball which it has now spread to baseball. If it’s an official color then fine use it if not don’t. Using silver for football pants even though it’s not a school color is a tradition for many colleges, those institutions need to add that to there official pallet, prime example my school UGA.

    Glanville influenced the Falcons to go with black helmet but Blank needs to do a total redesign for next year to signal a new era, if nothing else go with red helmets. I think adding a little silver (or gray what little they have now on the logo look gray to me) back in would be a good idea too. Has it been 5 years yet with new design for this to even be a possibility?

    One clarification don’t let that paragraph fool you I’m not a Falcons fan rather a long time die hard Cowboys fan. Whom I’d love to see go with a standard pallet of sliver-green metallic & royal blue maybe keep the navy but get one silver & stick with it.[/quote]

    I would think that if the Falcons went with more red they would just be following the recent trend of going with more red ala D’Baacks, Capitals, etc.

    If they want to signify a new era – go with the blue, red, white like the Hawks

  • DenverGregg | August 8, 2007 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”129932″]You can see what Kansas’s new football jerseys will look like here, and you can see what the helmet looks like at the Helmet Project(unable to link; Google it).[/quote]
    Jersey looks pretty good. I still think they ought to wear the helmet with the Jayhawk on it, though. The monogram is pretty uninspired.

  • Broker75 | August 8, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”129933″]i want some more leaked hockey jerseys[/quote]
    here and here you go. These are not real, just fan-art.

  • DenverGregg | August 8, 2007 at 10:43 am |

    Like the Portland State helmet. It could even be the most notable thing about their program since Neil Lomax.

    I wonder what Glanville’s design was, all black with black stripes, black letters and black numbers maybe?

  • Michael | August 8, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”129939″][quote comment=”129923″]quote]
    I would think that if the Falcons went with more red they would just be following the recent trend of going with more red ala D’Baacks, Capitals, etc.

    If they want to signify a new era – go with the blue, red, white like the Hawks[/quote]

    How could I forget about that! Yes! When the Hawks redesign came out I was disappointed that they didn’t keep the yellow as an accent then there colors would have been in line with the Braves & Thrashers. So yes I agree the Falcons going with a deep red & a darker blue would be a perfect way to signal a new era.

  • Jason | August 8, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    What looked REALLY hip was the can of chew clearly visible in Bonds back pocket. “Daddy, what’s that round thing in Bonds’ pocket?” Glad he wasn’t planning on sliding.

  • tape | August 8, 2007 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”129939″]
    I would think that if the Falcons went with more red they would just be following the recent trend of going with more red ala D’Baacks, Capitals, etc.

    If they want to signify a new era – go with the blue, red, white like the Hawks[/quote]

    1) The Falcons’ colors are RED and black. Going with “more red” would not be trendy because they’re already red. How much more red could it be? None more red.

    2) Those new Hawks unis are, how to say this… fugly. Anyone choosing to be “like the Hawks” would be choosing to be exceptionally unfashionable.

  • Frank Mercogliano | August 8, 2007 at 10:49 am |

    In actuality, the interesting thing is that the spear really doesn’t have a lot to do with Vikings. Now granted, the new number font is way better than the old one (seriously, look at that nine…it looks freehand), and they will be way easier to see when doing stats from the press box. I understand lots of programs have a helmet logo that isn’t their official logo (although you have to admit, I designed a nice looking helmet), but this is one of those out of left field things.

    Also, I’m gonna add this, but at the football media day meetings for the Big Sky, Jerry Glanville, couldn’t have been more approachable, nicer, and generally more down to earth. He was totally cool with the media, random fans and guests in the hotel, and really was fun to be around.

    Frank

  • Shadeymonk | August 8, 2007 at 10:50 am |

    From ESPN’s NBA rumor pages comes news that Kenyon Martin has switched numbers for the Denver Nuggets:

    “Back to wearing his old No. 4 from his college days, Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin said Tuesday he expects to be healthy and playing again opening night.”

  • BCrisp | August 8, 2007 at 10:51 am |

    Paul, you are wrong, the record breaking last night does have to do with uniforms. Nationals pitcher Mike Bacsik was wearing soem nice stirrups. It’s a little hard to tell, but when I was watching the game last night he was wearing them backwards.
    video
    picture

  • Teebz | August 8, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”129944″]What looked REALLY hip was the can of chew clearly visible in Bonds back pocket. “Daddy, what’s that round thing in Bonds’ pocket?” Glad he wasn’t planning on sliding.[/quote]

    “Bonds” and “slide” go together as well as oil and water. He doesn’t even slide at waterparks or playgrounds with his kids.

  • Alex | August 8, 2007 at 10:54 am |

    The Montreal Canadiens should be fined for stitching “#99” on a jersey, albeit for any occasion. Shame on them and their backwards management.

  • Alex | August 8, 2007 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”129941″][quote comment=”129933″]i want some more leaked hockey jerseys[/quote]
    here and here you go. These are not real, just fan-art.[/quote]

    Second one isn’t bad. Whoever made the first one should be shot.

  • Wall of Beef | August 8, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”129947″]In actuality, the interesting thing is that the spear really doesn’t have a lot to do with Vikings.
    [/quote]

    I was just going to comment on that. Being from Minnesota, where there are a lot of Swedes and Norwegians (plus having a team named the vikings) Viking lore and history is thrown around a lot. Plus we have that Rune stone here. I have never heard of or seen drawings of Spears being used by a Viking. I suppose they could have, its a pretty basic weapon. But it seems like an odd choice, especially considering they could have just as easily designed a Sword on the helmet.

  • Mike from Queens | August 8, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”129902″]I must admit that I do like those Portland State helmets, unique design with that spear thingee.[/quote]

    I don’t just like it… it’s one of the best helmet designs I’ve ever seen. Very modern, but much more sedate than someone would expect. Simple concept, but dressed up in a tattoo-esque kind of artwork in a simple two-tone color scheme. The helmet stripe has been a helmet staple for a long time, and for no other reason than aesthetics. Well, this is a new, modern aesthetic. I’d like the spear to be about 10-15% smaller, but it’s still stylish and rather sedate compared to even the Redskins design that Paul cites. I hate the uniforms themselves, and though I don’t share the disdain for black and white colors, the helmet design would still be just as cool in any color scheme.

  • Paul Lukas | August 8, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”129947″]In actuality, the interesting thing is that the spear really doesn’t have a lot to do with Vikings.[/quote]

    Not true. Scroll down to the “Viking Weaponry” section on this page, for example.

  • Dan | August 8, 2007 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”129923″]What would Glanville do if he got hired somewhere that doesn’t have black in the color scheme? Oh wait, it seems like any team can add black to there pallet without it being an official color. The pros don’t seem to do this much but in college you see it all the time especially in basketball which it has now spread to baseball. If it’s an official color then fine use it if not don’t. Using silver for football pants even though it’s not a school color is a tradition for many colleges, those institutions need to add that to there official pallet, prime example my school UGA.

    Glanville influenced the Falcons to go with black helmet but Blank needs to do a total redesign for next year to signal a new era, if nothing else go with red helmets. I think adding a little silver (or gray what little they have now on the logo look gray to me) back in would be a good idea too. Has it been 5 years yet with new design for this to even be a possibility?

    One clarification don’t let that paragraph fool you I’m not a Falcons fan rather a long time die hard Cowboys fan. Whom I’d love to see go with a standard pallet of sliver-green metallic & royal blue maybe keep the navy but get one silver & stick with it.[/quote]

    He did coach a team w/ no black in the uniform…the Houston Oilers. He wore black all the time (and the rediculous black duster…wonder what Reebok would say about that these days) on the sideline…but didn’t add black to the team.

  • Michael | August 8, 2007 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”129954″][quote comment=”129902″]I must admit that I do like those Portland State helmets, unique design with that spear thingee.[/quote]

    I don’t just like it… it’s one of the best helmet designs I’ve ever seen. Very modern, but much more sedate than someone would expect. Simple concept, but dressed up in a tattoo-esque kind of artwork in a simple two-tone color scheme. The helmet stripe has been a helmet staple for a long time, and for no other reason than aesthetics. Well, this is a new, modern aesthetic. I’d like the spear to be about 10-15% smaller, but it’s still stylish and rather sedate compared to even the Redskins design that Paul cites. I hate the uniforms themselves, and though I don’t share the disdain for black and white colors, the helmet design would still be just as cool in any color scheme.[/quote]

    Yea I though of that, that’s why I mentioned usually professional teams don’t just add a color that unless a new uni &/or logo comes with it. If he would have been with them during the move to Nashville he would have had black put in the new color scheme for sure.

  • Dan | August 8, 2007 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”129923″]What would Glanville do if he got hired somewhere that doesn’t have black in the color scheme? Oh wait, it seems like any team can add black to there pallet without it being an official color. The pros don’t seem to do this much but in college you see it all the time especially in basketball which it has now spread to baseball. If it’s an official color then fine use it if not don’t. Using silver for football pants even though it’s not a school color is a tradition for many colleges, those institutions need to add that to there official pallet, prime example my school UGA.

    Glanville influenced the Falcons to go with black helmet but Blank needs to do a total redesign for next year to signal a new era, if nothing else go with red helmets. I think adding a little silver (or gray what little they have now on the logo look gray to me) back in would be a good idea too. Has it been 5 years yet with new design for this to even be a possibility?

    [/quote]

    Why does Arthur Blank need to signal a new era? Aside from the Deion “2 Legit” era…I don’t know that the Falcons qualify for an “era.” You don’t have to change your whole uniform (for the third time in 5 years…they went from the old falcon logo/jersey/helmet, to the new, with the new uniforms & logo. Black was the primary dark jersey for that first year…then they made the red the primary the next year…and now you’re suggesting a third change) just because a player did (or didn’t do) something lousy.

    If that were the case, the Titans should be looking for a re-design too…and h#ll…the Bengals should be looking at a total overhaul (actually…they probably should, but not because of their legal issues, mainly just because their uniforms are crap.)

  • Purple Brigade | August 8, 2007 at 11:13 am |

    “Someone broke a record of some sort last night. It had nothing to do with uniforms, so if you have strong opinions about the record-breaker, please post them on a more appropriate forum, not here. Thanks.”

    On the contrary …

    The homerun ball hit by that certain someone was caught by a dude from New York. That dude was sharply dressed in his local colors. The colors are blue, orange and white, (the official colors of New York City.) Blue and orange are also symbolic of the return of National League baseball to New York after the Brooklyn Dodgers (blue) and New York Giants (orange) moved to California. The jersey that Matt Murphy was wearing last night is the road jersey of the New York Mets. The jersey was no doubt inspired by the jersey the Mets wore when they were started in 1962, which was no doubt inspired by the jersey worn by the Giants when they called New York home. Additionally, the cap logo of the Mets is identical to the logo used by the New York Giants in their final years. (Our lucky traveler must have lost his in the scrum. He’s probably reaching for it here.)

    And let’s not forget. The record broken last night is the Major League Baseball record, not the World Record. The World Record is 868 homeruns, held by Sadaharu Oh. Who, coincidentally played for the Yomiuri Giants. The Yomiuri Giants name and uniforms were also based on the New York Giants. The teams colors (orange and black) are the same colors worn by the National League’s Giants, both in New York and San Francisco. The stylized lettering on the team’s jerseys and caps is similar to the fancy lettering used by the Giants when they played in New York in the 1930s.

    What does it all mean? Could mean many things.

    Maybe the Baseball Gods want those who think the record is tainted to look outside our borders for solace and a re-newed interest in our beautiful game. Maybe the one Barry arrogantly said we shouldn’t talk about anymore is having the last say.

  • Mike from Queens | August 8, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”129948″]From ESPN’s NBA rumor pages comes news that Kenyon Martin has switched numbers for the Denver Nuggets:

    “Back to wearing his old No. 4 from his college days, Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin said Tuesday he expects to be healthy and playing again opening night.”[/quote]

    Don’t players have to notify the league a year before-hand or something? I guess this has been in the works since then? I don’t remember seeing anything about it. (I remember the whole Kobe thing being a story for a while previous to his actual switch.)

  • Kenny | August 8, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”129945″][quote comment=”129939″]
    I would think that if the Falcons went with more red they would just be following the recent trend of going with more red ala D’Baacks, Capitals, etc.

    If they want to signify a new era – go with the blue, red, white like the Hawks[/quote]

    1) The Falcons’ colors are RED and black. Going with “more red” would not be trendy because they’re already red. How much more red could it be? None more red.

    2) Those new Hawks unis are, how to say this… fugly. Anyone choosing to be “like the Hawks” would be choosing to be exceptionally unfashionable.[/quote]

    I’m well aware that the Falcons colors are RED and black. The original posting suggested going back to red helmets, hence MORE red.

    Also I was not suggesting to “be like the Hawks”. Using a deep red and navy with white as an accent would look good. Not to mention tie in those colors to the Braves & Hawks. It was just a suggestion in response to the first post in regards to a “new era”

  • Broker75 | August 8, 2007 at 11:17 am |

    I think it’s cool that the homerun record was broken. At least we can say it was done in our era. We all know who Hank Aaron is, but I have never seen him play. Bonds is a 40-40 man. I watched his post game last night, he was not cocky, he said the homerun hitter should never have the record breaking baseball.-> unirelated, it’s pretty dumb that they are gonna have like fifty or so jerseys and equipment put aside. At least when Ruth, DiMaggio, Aaron etc. did their thing back in the day they had like two or so jerseys to display, just seems more historical.

  • Mike Engle | August 8, 2007 at 11:17 am |

    News flash: The other side of the KG trade (or, in the words of Bill Simmons, “the Al Jefferson pu-pu platter deluxe“) has been formally introduced as Minnesota Timberwolves. From left to right, with their new jerseys: #42, Theo Ratliff; #25, Al Jefferson; #15, Gerald Green; #8, Ryan Gomes; #3, Sebastian Telfair.
    Source story

  • possum | August 8, 2007 at 11:20 am |

    Somebody mentioned yesterday that they wanted to see pictures of Lakeland’s sand road unis. The Tri-City Valley Cats also wear them. I got a JPG from a flash mashup on milb.com last night but am unable to load it because of my employer’s proxy settings. I’ll post it tonight if I get a chance.

  • Ben from Lawrence, KS | August 8, 2007 at 11:20 am |

    Sure, I think black seriously needs to take a vacation from the color schemes of a lot of these Nike universities, but I think in this case it might be a good thing. Who outside of Oregon had heard of Portland State? They have one of the top ten coolest helmets in the NCAA now, and a famous head coach. The black IS overwhelming but the template isn’t horible. He is obviously trying to do the thing his friend June Jones did in Hawaii.

    On a related note, go here for a better view of the new KU football unis : http://www2.kusports...

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | August 8, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”129957″][quote comment=”129954″][quote comment=”129902″]I must admit that I do like those Portland State helmets, unique design with that spear thingee.[/quote]

    I don’t just like it… it’s one of the best helmet designs I’ve ever seen. Very modern, but much more sedate than someone would expect. Simple concept, but dressed up in a tattoo-esque kind of artwork in a simple two-tone color scheme. The helmet stripe has been a helmet staple for a long time, and for no other reason than aesthetics. Well, this is a new, modern aesthetic. I’d like the spear to be about 10-15% smaller, but it’s still stylish and rather sedate compared to even the Redskins design that Paul cites. I hate the uniforms themselves, and though I don’t share the disdain for black and white colors, the helmet design would still be just as cool in any color scheme.[/quote]

    Yea I though of that, that’s why I mentioned usually professional teams don’t just add a color that unless a new uni &/or logo comes with it. If he would have been with them during the move to Nashville he would have had black put in the new color scheme for sure.[/quote]

    Since notorious cheapskate Bud Adams owned (and still owns) the team, can’t really see him approving any wholesale uniform change – hell, he waited 2 years to change from the Tennessee Oilers to the Tennessee Titans! :-)

  • Manzell | August 8, 2007 at 11:22 am |

    I’m a Portland State student, and I was pretty dubious about an ‘All-Black’ jersey. But i’ve got to say, the white jersey is VERY NICE. I like it alot. The all-blacks, meh, but those white ones are great.

    Too bad they’ll only last until PSU wins a few games and Glanville gets a better offer somewhere else.

  • nastykjn | August 8, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    Long Live Hank! With Soriano hurt the Cubbies and their most excellent unis will be out of the race soon so bring on the N.O. Saints!

  • Gabe | August 8, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    Not a fan of the spear on the top of the helmet at all. Shouldn’t the logo on the helmet be in a place that is clearly visible to fans in the stands and those watching on TV?

    Furthermore, I would argue that a large part of putting the logo on the helmet would be to demarcate players from one team from their opponents. Imagine if both teams put the design on the center, rather than the sides, and a player just quickly glanced at another player during a play. Confusion would almost certainly follow.

  • Dan | August 8, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    Not uniform related…but still athletic aesthetics:

    The Terps will FINALLY be getting rid of the Carolina Blue roofs on Byrd Stadium. Terps fans have long hated the light blue roofs on the buildings along the concourse of the stadium…what with the whole loathing everything to do with Carolina.

    They’ll be painted a sandstone color to go with the brickwork around the stadium.

    The blue on Tyser Tower won’t be messed with, because that whole thing is coming down as part of the stadium expansion. So why bother paint it, they feel. (How about jsut to be consistant?)

    Here’s the blog from the Baltimore Sun:
    http://weblogs.balti...

    And here’s a pic of Byrd Stadium, so that those of you who care can see what we’re talking about:
    http://upload.wikime...

  • Korch | August 8, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    Anyone notice that in the Mauer picture with the 35W memorial sticker, his #7 is in the Red Sox font?

    http://farm2.static....

    I am sure someone has caught this already.

  • Michael | August 8, 2007 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”129958″]
    Why does Arthur Blank need to signal a new era? Aside from the Deion “2 Legit” era…I don’t know that the Falcons qualify for an “era.” You don’t have to change your whole uniform (for the third time in 5 years…they went from the old falcon logo/jersey/helmet, to the new, with the new uniforms & logo. Black was the primary dark jersey for that first year…then they made the red the primary the next year…and now you’re suggesting a third change) just because a player did (or didn’t do) something lousy.

    If that were the case, the Titans should be looking for a re-design too…and h#ll…the Bengals should be looking at a total overhaul (actually…they probably should, but not because of their legal issues, mainly just because their uniforms are crap.)[/quote]

    The reason the Falcons would be wise to change the whole redesign seemed to be done with Michael Vick in mind. Ever notice how the look complimented him but the bigger guys look funny in the same uni. The whole organization was geared around him, after the hiring of Petrino was the first time they maid it plain that the team no longer revolved around Vick. So to signal a new era with the new coach why not makes a change? If they get the chance to draft a QB (Brhom for example) then you’ve got trifecta, new coach, new look, new focal point. However it probably wouldn’t be wise to tie a whole football team’s identity to one player again.

  • Dwight | August 8, 2007 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment=”129972″]Anyone notice that in the Mauer picture with the 35W memorial sticker, his #7 is in the Red Sox font?

    http://farm2.static....

    I am sure someone has caught this already.[/quote]

    I noticed too – is that the case with all the Twins?

  • Micah | August 8, 2007 at 11:31 am |

    I initially thought the dude in the middle had adidas gloves on, but yeah, there is a Swoosh on the hand; weird, ’cause I swear there are three stripes on the velcro strap!

  • Anthony M | August 8, 2007 at 11:34 am |

    Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | August 8, 2007 at 11:38 am |

    Breaking the “same day posting” rule, but I’m taking a minute to refer back to this – does anybody else remember the Venus Paradise Color-By-Number sets?
    I can remember creating many uniform variants by tracing the un-colored pictures and creating my own designs. Anybody? Or am I the only old fart who remembers this stuff? ;-)

  • Dan | August 8, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    I’ve always been annoyed by 3rd party jerseys. Baseball and Hockey…it seems like you get as many jerseys of teams not playing at that particular arena as you do of the two who are.

    Seems less common in football…I think because more people catch h#ll from the fans for the 3rd party jersey.

    But yeah…it does bug me. UNLESS it’s someone wearing a Boston jersey to a Yanks/Os game…because they are there with a rooting interest (anti-yanks) or vice versa. Same as a Dodgers jersey at a Giants/anyone else game. So there are times when the 3rd party jersey is ok…but if you’re wearing a Sabres sweater to a Caps/Carolina game…WTF?

  • Tom R | August 8, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]
    Yes it bothers me too, what really bothers me here in Pittsburgh is if you go to a Pirates game you will see a ridiculous amount of Steelers jerseys and other Steelers gear. You see it too at Penguins game but not as much.

  • Micah | August 8, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    By the way, TO’s shirt is the Jordan Tight Long-Sleeve top, shown here:

    http://www.nike.com/...

  • Kenny | August 8, 2007 at 11:52 am |

    And for the record I’m not advocating a redesign for the Falcons, just playing along with the post

  • Wade | August 8, 2007 at 11:54 am |

    Here’s a photo gallery of Syracuse’s new helmets in action. That is one big ol’ block S!

  • Amy | August 8, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”129982″]By the way, TO’s shirt is the Jordan Tight Long-Sleeve top, shown here:

    http://www.nike.com/...
    Yikes that shirt is even more disturbing when you see the whole thing…

  • Ian K | August 8, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    What are your thoughts on wearing a cap from a team that isn’t playing? I always wear my Dodger hat to Rangers games, since I live in Dallas now and not L.A. Uniform may be a bit much, but I think just a cap is more understated.

  • Anthony Verna | August 8, 2007 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”129988″][quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    What are your thoughts on wearing a cap from a team that isn’t playing? I always wear my Dodger hat to Rangers games, since I live in Dallas now and not L.A. Uniform may be a bit much, but I think just a cap is more understated.[/quote]

    I’ve done it. Friends and I went to a Yankees game in our Phillies gear. No shame of it at all. We’re not Yankees fans. We weren’t there to see the visiting team play (A’s). We were there for the pilgrimmage.

  • concealed78 | August 8, 2007 at 12:06 pm |

    Those Portland State uni’s blow. About as bland and colorless as you can get. Very sad about B*nds. Another piece of Americana died. At least the record won’t last too long.

  • BCrisp | August 8, 2007 at 12:06 pm |

    Not uniform related at all, but still a great link:MLB Players entrance music

  • Stuby | August 8, 2007 at 12:09 pm |

    I’m avoiding the highlight of Bonds hitting the homerun and pretending it never happened.

    As far as the Falcons unis, it always struck me as weird that they would choose a color scheme so closely related to UGA. Up until they switched the black helmets, they were almost identical. The helmets they have now ar fine, but the rest of the uniform is a train-wreck.

  • Shadeymonk | August 8, 2007 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”129989″][quote comment=”129988″][quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    What are your thoughts on wearing a cap from a team that isn’t playing? I always wear my Dodger hat to Rangers games, since I live in Dallas now and not L.A. Uniform may be a bit much, but I think just a cap is more understated.[/quote]

    I’ve done it. Friends and I went to a Yankees game in our Phillies gear. No shame of it at all. We’re not Yankees fans. We weren’t there to see the visiting team play (A’s). We were there for the pilgrimmage.[/quote]

    It doesn’t bother me at all. Some people wear jerseys because they like the design or that’s their favorite team… even if that team isn’t playing. And in the spirit of uniwatch, it’s always fun to see different uniforms.

  • Jason | August 8, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    Wow, you would have hated the Indians/Angels games played at Miller Park. Most people had Brewer gear on. I wear a Brewer jersey to nearly every game I go to whether they’re playing or not. I love baseball and try to see as many games as I can. I see nothing wrong with supporting your team even if you’re not watching them play.

  • possum | August 8, 2007 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”129964″]Somebody mentioned yesterday that they wanted to see pictures of Lakeland’s sand road unis. The Tri-City Valley Cats also wear them. I got a JPG from a flash mashup on milb.com last night but am unable to load it because of my employer’s proxy settings. I’ll post it tonight if I get a chance.[/quote]
    I just switched from webshots to Flickr. Here are the Tri-City sands.

  • Stormy | August 8, 2007 at 12:26 pm |

    Is Mike Bascik wearing stirrups when he gave up #756? If you’re going to be immortalized, at least look good doing it. I’ve only noticed it on grainy YouTube clips; it looks like white at the bottom of his dark socks. Can anyone confirm?

  • Frankie | August 8, 2007 at 12:29 pm |

    Bonds and slide do go together… he still steals a few bases a year and will even slide for a ball in the outfield from time to time.

    About the new Portland State unis… is it just me or is the botton part of the home jersey just a really, really dark and faded green. That’s what it looks like to me. Also, when I was in highschool one of the schools we played were the Highlands scots and they had the same helmet design, but they had a sword instead of a spear.

  • Big L | August 8, 2007 at 12:37 pm |

    I think the server’s down again. Couldn’t access this site through http://www.uniwatchb....

    Found my way here the back way.

  • Big L | August 8, 2007 at 12:38 pm |

    Nevermind, now it works fine.

  • James P. | August 8, 2007 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”129923″]What would Glanville do if he got hired somewhere that doesn’t have black in the color scheme? [/quote]

    He was on the interview list at Louisiana Tech, and it was feared that if he was hired he would change our Red, White, and Blue scheme to include black…which doesn’t go well with the colors we have used for over 100 years…

    Needless to say, he didn’t get the job…or the interview…

  • Dave A | August 8, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”129962″]I think it’s cool that the homerun record was broken. At least we can say it was done in our era. We all know who Hank Aaron is, but I have never seen him play. [/quote]

    Geez Broker…way to make a guy feel old, speaking as one who saw Aaron hit 715 on TV.

  • Anthony M | August 8, 2007 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”130005″]I think the server’s down again. Couldn’t access this site through http://www.uniwatchb....

    Found my way here the back way.[/quote]

    There’s a period at the end of the URL you linked.

  • Shadeymonk | August 8, 2007 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”130010″][quote comment=”129962″]I think it’s cool that the homerun record was broken. At least we can say it was done in our era. We all know who Hank Aaron is, but I have never seen him play. [/quote]

    Geez Broker…way to make a guy feel old, speaking as one who saw Aaron hit 715 on TV.[/quote]

    Sorry to elaborate Dave, but Hank Aaron played his last game in 76. I’m 22 and that record was set 9 years before I was born. So it’s nice being able to witness these records, and I look forward to A-Rod beating Bonds in a few years.

  • BCrisp | August 8, 2007 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”129999″]Is Mike Bascik wearing stirrups when he gave up #756? If you’re going to be immortalized, at least look good doing it. I’ve only noticed it on grainy YouTube clips; it looks like white at the bottom of his dark socks. Can anyone confirm?[/quote]
    Check out my comment, #46.

  • Brett S | August 8, 2007 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”129981″][quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]
    Yes it bothers me too, what really bothers me here in Pittsburgh is if you go to a Pirates game you will see a ridiculous amount of Steelers jerseys and other Steelers gear. You see it too at Penguins game but not as much.[/quote]

    At least with Pittsburgh the colour schemes for all the teams are pretty similar. So I guess they think they are still supporting the team by wearing their colours. But still, at least try to wear something for either of the teams involved in the game.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | August 8, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”129992″]Not uniform related at all, but still a great link:MLB Players entrance music[/quote]

    That is appalling there are so many… hmmmm, don’t see Biggio anywhere on that list!

  • BCrisp | August 8, 2007 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”130019″][quote comment=”129992″]Not uniform related at all, but still a great link:MLB Players entrance music[/quote]

    That is appalling there are so many… hmmmm, don’t see Biggio anywhere on that list![/quote]
    Biggio’s entrance is anything by U2.

  • Big L | August 8, 2007 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”130011″][quote comment=”130005″]I think the server’s down again. Couldn’t access this site through http://www.uniwatchb....

    Found my way here the back way.[/quote]

    There’s a period at the end of the URL you linked.[/quote]

    The period wasn’t used when I tried accessing the site. It was added to the link because it finished my statement.

    Anywho, site’s up and running for me. Just wanted to bring it to Paul’s attention if this was a re-occurence from last time.

  • Minna H. | August 8, 2007 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    Doesn’t bother me a bit. If I went to a game in which I had no rooting interest and if I wore jerseys, I would wear a Twins/Timberwolves/Vikings jersey. Well, ok, not the last–but that’s because it’s butt-ugly.

    I’m still loving the PSU unis, including helmets.

  • Brad | August 8, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    Actually that is the Speedtack IV.

    Here are the ones he is wearing the Speedtack III.

  • Purple Brigade | August 8, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    Not at all. I’m from Oakland, live in Atlanta and I’ll be damned if I wear any colors other than my home colors. I think it’s cool if I see someone representing their home allegiance.

    It bothers me to see someone harrassed for wearing a “foreign” jersey. Especially when they are with their kids. I witnessed this many times at Raider games. Shame on those assholes that do that.

    What bothers me the most is if I see some douche wearing an XXL jersey, regardless of the team.

    Find a friggin tailor or by a child’s XL. You look like a friggin dork in a mumu.

  • Brad | August 8, 2007 at 1:07 pm |
  • Broker75 | August 8, 2007 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”130010″][quote comment=”129962″]I think it’s cool that the homerun record was broken. At least we can say it was done in our era. We all know who Hank Aaron is, but I have never seen him play. [/quote]

    Geez Broker…way to make a guy feel old, speaking as one who saw Aaron hit 715 on TV.[/quote]
    ..they had television back then?? haha, just kidding. I know we are not supposed to talk about all this, but at least noone is spazzing out about the subject so far.., but how was it back then?, I mean like the media, the reception, the fans, players etc..didn’t two fans run on the field and trot the bases with Hank? that’s crazy. Where’s the ball that Aaron hit?

  • DenverGregg | August 8, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”129979″]Breaking the “same day posting” rule, but I’m taking a minute to refer back to this – does anybody else remember the Venus Paradise Color-By-Number sets?
    I can remember creating many uniform variants by tracing the un-colored pictures and creating my own designs. Anybody? Or am I the only old fart who remembers this stuff? ;-)[/quote]
    You’re not the only one. Sadly my experiments on those didn’t turn out too well. Anybody else do custom unis on their Pee Chee folders?

  • Pat | August 8, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”129944″]What looked REALLY hip was the can of chew clearly visible in Bonds back pocket. “Daddy, what’s that round thing in Bonds’ pocket?” Glad he wasn’t planning on sliding.[/quote]

    Not to get all technical but chew doesn’t come in a can. Chewing tobacco comes in a pouch. Dip, as it’s commonly called, comes in a can or tin.

    Chew is whole tobacco leaves and slightly less delicious than dip.

  • zip | August 8, 2007 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”129929″][quote comment=”129926″]wear your team’s jersey untucked.[/quote]

    Why is that?

  • Ian K | August 8, 2007 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”130019″][quote comment=”129992″]Not uniform related at all, but still a great link:MLB Players entrance music[/quote]

    That is appalling there are so many… hmmmm, don’t see Biggio anywhere on that list![/quote]

    It’s Wikipedia. Add Biggio’s yourself. I added Teixeira, assuming he’s still using Watchtower in Atlanta.

  • tommy | August 8, 2007 at 1:24 pm |

    Those Portland helmet spear/stripe/thingys look like a bad mistake made at Lolapalooza ’92 in the tattoo tent.

  • Kenny | August 8, 2007 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”130024″]Actually, the gloves are in face Nike, not Reebok.

    There’s a pic of the Nike Gloves. They must have been player editions given to him where they remove the Nike logo and put on the NFL Equipment logo.[/quote]

    Doesn’t matter – he can’t wear them in games…they have to be gray

  • TOG | August 8, 2007 at 1:29 pm |

    “When Nike presented their new look, I realized I may be in the wrong business designing uniforms,” said Glanville. Yeah, because you probably wouldn’t have come up with quotes like this one, from Nike creative director Todd Van Horne: “We (at Nike) huddled together and said ‘there’s energy here.’ We needed to bring that energy very visually to the field.” Don’t you love it when marketers talk like that?

    Wait a minute… after seeing the continual brutal design work from Nike, Reebok and assorted sports branding firms…Sabres, Capitals, Ducks, Pedators, Oregon, Atl Hawks, Reds, Pirates alts, etc… I think Glanville is within his rights to take stab at designing uniforms…I mean he couldn’t do any worse…

  • Kyle O. | August 8, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    From the SI photo album. This is an interesting picture of Ben Crenshaw. He was a golfer for Texas but his uniform featured a football helmet.

  • Mike from Queens | August 8, 2007 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”129969″]Not a fan of the spear on the top of the helmet at all. Shouldn’t the logo on the helmet be in a place that is clearly visible to fans in the stands and those watching on TV?

    Furthermore, I would argue that a large part of putting the logo on the helmet would be to demarcate players from one team from their opponents. Imagine if both teams put the design on the center, rather than the sides, and a player just quickly glanced at another player during a play. Confusion would almost certainly follow.[/quote]

    1. The fans in the seats and one television will be able to see the logo quite clearly during play, as players heads are not glued parallel to the sidelines or cameras.

    2. Similar looking helmets weren’t a huge problem during this era, and I don’t think they would be a problem today. The jerseys, not to mention a player’s positioning on the field, are more than enough to tell team from team. Is it easier to see when the helmets contrast? Sure. But how about this? Cowboys, Panthers. Two helmets, both silver, both with a dark stripe and dark logo. At a “quick glance,” that’s pretty similar. And, that action picture was from a playoff game—if it was really an issue, I’m going to say neither team would want that confusion. Just a thought.

  • Jill | August 8, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    I guess everyone has things that get on their nerves, but who cares what someone wears to a baseball game? It is a casual environment, people can wear whatever they want. If you don’t like it, don’t wear it.

    I went to the Cubs/Astros game last night and had a nice time looking at all the different jerseys. There were some good ones that didn’t involve either team. I was wearing my Cubs jersey. If they weren’t playing I would not have worn it but that is just because it is not the most comfortable shirt I own, (but might very well be the most expensive.)

    I was surprised by the number of Pettite and Clemens jerseys I saw. This doesn’t bother me either but I would not wear either of these jerseys in Houston. Well I would wear the jersey but definitely take the name off, or at least take a magic marker and cross out the name.

  • Stephen | August 8, 2007 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”130030″]..they had television back then?? haha, just kidding. I know we are not supposed to talk about all this, but at least noone is spazzing out about the subject so far.., but how was it back then?, I mean like the media, the reception, the fans, players etc..didn’t two fans run on the field and trot the bases with Hank? that’s crazy. Where’s the ball that Aaron hit?[/quote]
    Yes, two college kids did run onto the field to congratulate Hank. Both were arrested, I think. One of the Braves’ relief pitchers caught 715 (it landed in the Braves bullpen). They all ran to greet Hank, and the pitcher handed Hank the ball. Don’t know if he still has it…

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | August 8, 2007 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”130014″][quote comment=”129999″]Is Mike Bascik wearing stirrups when he gave up #756? If you’re going to be immortalized, at least look good doing it. I’ve only noticed it on grainy YouTube clips; it looks like white at the bottom of his dark socks. Can anyone confirm?[/quote]
    Check out my comment, #46.[/quote]
    Speaking of immortalized stirrups, check out The Man!
    I had the opportunity to meet Hank at a Big Brothers/Big Sisters fundraiser in Milwaukee about 15 years ago, and he is one of the most gracious gentlemen that you will ever meet.
    (side note – is that an away uniform he’s wearing?)

  • ScottyJ in WV | August 8, 2007 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”130034″][quote comment=”129944″]What looked REALLY hip was the can of chew clearly visible in Bonds back pocket. “Daddy, what’s that round thing in Bonds’ pocket?” Glad he wasn’t planning on sliding.[/quote]

    Not to get all technical but chew doesn’t come in a can. Chewing tobacco comes in a pouch. Dip, as it’s commonly called, comes in a can or tin.

    Chew is whole tobacco leaves and slightly less delicious than dip.[/quote]

    As a former Skoal man, the common name for the slang “dip” is snuff. If you ran out, you asked a buddy for a “dip” or “rub” of snuff. :0)

    The popular chewing tobacco brands in the US are very coarsely shredded, also referred to as “loose leaf”, but they aren’t whole leaves.

    And yes, after 6 six years of not having any, Skoal was delicious!!

  • Mike from Queens | August 8, 2007 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”130046″]I was surprised by the number of Pettite and Clemens jerseys I saw. This doesn’t bother me either but I would not wear either of these jerseys in Houston. Well I would wear the jersey but definitely take the name off, or at least take a magic marker and cross out the name.[/quote]

    I’m not sure I follow you on this one. If I have a Tom Seaver jersey, should I cross it out because he didn’t stay with the Mets for his whole career? Or, a more recent example, should all Texeira (Teixeira?) fans in Texas take him off their jerseys? Or, you as a Cubs fan, what about a Mark Grace jersey? Or a Greg Maddux jersey? Should no one wear a Cubs Maddux jersey in Chicago just because he’s on the Padres?

    I love this banter about jersey etiquette, and I think there should be clear-cut rules. Kind of like the whole “never wear the shirt of the band you’re going to see” rule (which is reversed in sports). But, I move to strike this suggestion of “not wearing jerseys of players no longer with the team” from consideration.

  • Greg Riffenburgh | August 8, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”129906″][quote comment=”129903″]Paul, those are Nike gloves he’s wearing. Nike is allowed to make gloves worn by NFL players, it’s just the shield on the gloves and no swoosh.

    I believe those are an older version of the Nike Speedtack.

    Ironically, the guy in the middle wearing gray gloves may be wearing another company. Those don’t look like any of the newer model of Nike gloves I’ve seen so far. They look more like Adidas or Under Armour, but I’m not 100% on that one.[/quote]

    I thought thet the guy in the middle was wearing a different brand of gloves as well. However, there is a swoosh on each glove. It’s light gray and it’s on the white part of the glove. That being said there seems to be something weird going on with those gloves. The swoosh could just be for looks and the glove could actually be a different brand.[/quote]

    I you look closely at the white gloves #10 is wearing you can also see Nike’s Tri-Bolt logo on the wristband. That logo is used for Nike’s football products.

    So the gloves are definitely Nike. The question is which ones? Are they a future model? I know that because of Portland State’s proximity to Nike (Portland, OR to Beaverton, OR; about 8 mi.), they get a lot of cool, exclusive stuff to try or use, so that might be it. Or similar to elite college and pro players getting next year’s model during the bowl season/playoffs, just a little early.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | August 8, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”130037″][quote comment=”130019″][quote comment=”129992″]Not uniform related at all, but still a great link:MLB Players entrance music[/quote]

    That is appalling there are so many… hmmmm, don’t see Biggio anywhere on that list![/quote]

    It’s Wikipedia. Add Biggio’s yourself. I added Teixeira, assuming he’s still using Watchtower in Atlanta.[/quote]

    Actually, I was glad he WASN’t on the list.

  • Mike Engle | August 8, 2007 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”130049″][quote comment=”130030″]..they had television back then?? haha, just kidding. I know we are not supposed to talk about all this, but at least noone is spazzing out about the subject so far.., but how was it back then?, I mean like the media, the reception, the fans, players etc..didn’t two fans run on the field and trot the bases with Hank? that’s crazy. Where’s the ball that Aaron hit?[/quote]
    Yes, two college kids did run onto the field to congratulate Hank. Both were arrested, I think. One of the Braves’ relief pitchers caught 715 (it landed in the Braves bullpen). They all ran to greet Hank, and the pitcher handed Hank the ball. Don’t know if he still has it…[/quote]
    Pitcher=Tom House.

  • Kerry | August 8, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    It always bothers me when I see someone at a sporting event (other than an all-star type game) and they’re wearing a jersey for a team not involved or from a completely different sport.

    I watch the ALF New Orleans Voodoo games and constantly see people there with Saints jerseys on….get a Voodoo shirt or something!

  • Kyle at IU | August 8, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    I think Bacsik’s stirrups should go to the hall of fame with all of Barry’s stuff. Not only were they involved in a record-breaking moment, but they’re one of about 5 pairs of stirrups in all of baseball.

  • Wall of Beef | August 8, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    Or for that matter cross out “Gretzky” on your Oilers Jersey.

  • Dane | August 8, 2007 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    I am one of those, er, individuals, and I really don’t care. I need somewhere to wear all of my jerseys, so I’m gonna wear ’em. If I’m wearing my Coyotes sweater to a Devils-Lightning game, so be it.

  • Mike Engle | August 8, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”130054″][quote comment=”130046″]I was surprised by the number of Pettite and Clemens jerseys I saw. This doesn’t bother me either but I would not wear either of these jerseys in Houston. Well I would wear the jersey but definitely take the name off, or at least take a magic marker and cross out the name.[/quote]

    I’m not sure I follow you on this one. If I have a Tom Seaver jersey, should I cross it out because he didn’t stay with the Mets for his whole career? Or, a more recent example, should all Texeira (Teixeira?) fans in Texas take him off their jerseys? Or, you as a Cubs fan, what about a Mark Grace jersey? Or a Greg Maddux jersey? Should no one wear a Cubs Maddux jersey in Chicago just because he’s on the Padres?

    I love this banter about jersey etiquette, and I think there should be clear-cut rules. Kind of like the whole “never wear the shirt of the band you’re going to see” rule (which is reversed in sports). But, I move to strike this suggestion of “not wearing jerseys of players no longer with the team” from consideration.[/quote]
    I see the original poster’s point of view. Pettitte and Clemens willingly left the Astros in free agency (Clemens with much less grace, may I add). Therefore, they probably are not very popular in Houston anymore.
    Now to address your particular examples. The Tom Seaver jersey is fine because he is in the Hall of Fame as a Met. Mark Grace’s Cubs jersey is safe because he only went to the Diamondbacks to chase a championship (the Raymond Bourque corollary at work). Besides, 13 Cubs seasons > 2+ Arizona seasons. As for Greg Maddux, his Cubs jersey should be good to stay because his #31 will be retired soon. (Yes, he ran away from the Cubs to go to the Braves, but that is washed out with him willingly returning to Wrigley after his stint in Atlanta.) Finally, I THINK Teixeira’s Texas jerseys are still technically kosher because Teixeira was traded.
    Examples of non-kosher jerseys in dire need of new nameplates include Golden State #15 (Latrell Sprewell) and Philadelphia #81 (Terrell Owens). Just think about that. Those should be obvious.

  • Mike Engle | August 8, 2007 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”130067″]It always bothers me when I see someone at a sporting event (other than an all-star type game) and they’re wearing a jersey for a team not involved or from a completely different sport.

    I watch the ALF New Orleans Voodoo games and constantly see people there with Saints jerseys on….get a Voodoo shirt or something![/quote]
    Counterpoint: today, it may be fashionable to wear Steelers stuff to Pirates games and Ravens gear to Camden Yards because it is a way to love the city, but hate the respective owners of the baseball teams. (Oh, what the hell, throw Chiefs paraphernalia at Kaufmann Stadium into the mix too. The Royals stink something awful.)

  • DenverGregg | August 8, 2007 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”130026″][quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    Not at all. I’m from Oakland, live in Atlanta and I’ll be damned if I wear any colors other than my home colors. I think it’s cool if I see someone representing their home allegiance.

    It bothers me to see someone harrassed for wearing a “foreign” jersey. Especially when they are with their kids. I witnessed this many times at Raider games. Shame on those assholes that do that.

    What bothers me the most is if I see some douche wearing an XXL jersey, regardless of the team.

    Find a friggin tailor or by a child’s XL. You look like a friggin dork in a mumu.[/quote]

    If someone’s tiny, they shouldn’t wear a big jersey. There are those of us that need XXL or even bigger.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | August 8, 2007 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”130054″][quote comment=”130046″]I was surprised by the number of Pettite and Clemens jerseys I saw. This doesn’t bother me either but I would not wear either of these jerseys in Houston. Well I would wear the jersey but definitely take the name off, or at least take a magic marker and cross out the name.[/quote]

    I’m not sure I follow you on this one. If I have a Tom Seaver jersey, should I cross it out because he didn’t stay with the Mets for his whole career? Or, a more recent example, should all Texeira (Teixeira?) fans in Texas take him off their jerseys? Or, you as a Cubs fan, what about a Mark Grace jersey? Or a Greg Maddux jersey? Should no one wear a Cubs Maddux jersey in Chicago just because he’s on the Padres?

    I love this banter about jersey etiquette, and I think there should be clear-cut rules. Kind of like the whole “never wear the shirt of the band you’re going to see” rule (which is reversed in sports). But, I move to strike this suggestion of “not wearing jerseys of players no longer with the team” from consideration.[/quote]

    Point being… they swooped in, we fell in love with them, and then they RIPPED our hearts out!

  • TOG | August 8, 2007 at 2:23 pm |

    Long Live Hank! With Soriano hurt the Cubbies and their most excellent unis will be out of the race soon so bring on the N.O. Saints!

    No one is ever out of the NL Central race. That will be a war of attrition…

  • Chris Sk | August 8, 2007 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    If you watch the video on espn.com (can’t link to it, its on the front page under “see it”) there is a guy in crowd wearing a backwards Yankees cap and an A-rod road jersey. You can see him as the ball goes into the crowd he is tring to climb up the seats to get the ball. If he shows up again in 5-6 years he’ll be dressed perfectly to see the record broken.

  • Jason G. | August 8, 2007 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”130054″][quote comment=”130046″]
    I love this banter about jersey etiquette, and I think there should be clear-cut rules. Kind of like the whole “never wear the shirt of the band you’re going to see” rule (which is reversed in sports). But, I move to strike this suggestion of “not wearing jerseys of players no longer with the team” from consideration.[/quote]

    I’m glad my buddies and I aren’t the only ones in the “no shirt of the band” club. From looking around at concerts I think we are definitely in the minority.

    As far as people catching grief for wearing the “wrong” team jersey to games, no team’s fans are worse about dishing it out than some Bengal’s fans. I’ve seen them give little kids crap over wearing a different teams stuff.

    I love the idea of coming up with proper etiquette for jersey wearing. I agree with you about being able to wear jerseys of “gone” players. The only problem I would see with this is if the player went to a hated rival i.e. Johnny Damon a few years back.

  • joe | August 8, 2007 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”130000″]Bonds and slide do go together… he still steals a few bases a year and will even slide for a ball in the outfield from time to time.

    About the new Portland State unis… is it just me or is the botton part of the home jersey just a really, really dark and faded green. That’s what it looks like to me. Also, when I was in highschool one of the schools we played were the Highlands scots and they had the same helmet design, but they had a sword instead of a spear.[/quote]

    B*nds never slides, he occasionally falls over due to his massive head putting his center of gravity too high.

  • ross | August 8, 2007 at 2:27 pm |

    interesting ebay auction here

  • Kenny | August 8, 2007 at 2:29 pm |

    Why is the catcher in this cartoon wearing a football helmet?

  • tom | August 8, 2007 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    no it does not bother me LETS GO METS?

  • Pat | August 8, 2007 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”130053″][quote comment=”130034″][quote comment=”129944″]What looked REALLY hip was the can of chew clearly visible in Bonds back pocket. “Daddy, what’s that round thing in Bonds’ pocket?” Glad he wasn’t planning on sliding.[/quote]

    Not to get all technical but chew doesn’t come in a can. Chewing tobacco comes in a pouch. Dip, as it’s commonly called, comes in a can or tin.

    Chew is whole tobacco leaves and slightly less delicious than dip.[/quote]

    As a former Skoal man, the common name for the slang “dip” is snuff. If you ran out, you asked a buddy for a “dip” or “rub” of snuff. :0)

    The popular chewing tobacco brands in the US are very coarsely shredded, also referred to as “loose leaf”, but they aren’t whole leaves.

    And yes, after 6 six years of not having any, Skoal was delicious!![/quote]

    See, now I always thought snuff was the very fine cut tobacco. I’ve seen older ball coaches and even some kids around my age (25) sniff the fine cut Copenhagen (which is wierdly disgusting to me). I figured that’s why it was called snuff.

    I know they aren’t really “whole” leaves in the Red Man pouches, but they are much bigger and actually have stems and whatever those wierd vein things that goes through leaves are called.

    I’ve noticed that after the uproar against tobacco products 5 or 6 years ago there are a lot more people with lips in these days. At least that’s what I’ve noticed from night after night of watching Josh Beckett, Brendan Donnelly, Mike Timlin, David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez and, until this year, Terry Francona as well as casual viewing of other teams.

    I’ve also noticed that there are a lot of them that keep the tin in their back pocket which I can tell you from personal experience does not feel great when sliding. You have a nice bump on your butt and are out a good amount of dip in that situation.

  • Ian K | August 8, 2007 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”130089″]
    I’ve noticed that after the uproar against tobacco products 5 or 6 years ago there are a lot more people with lips in these days. At least that’s what I’ve noticed from night after night of watching Josh Beckett, Brendan Donnelly, Mike Timlin, David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez and, until this year, Terry Francona as well as casual viewing of other teams.
    [/quote]

    I watched the 2nd rate TBS broadcast of the Braves game on Sunday. While talking about Bobby Cox, the cameras got a great shot of Cox loading his mouth full of dip. A little more blatant than just a cylindrical can in one’s pocket.

  • My name is not Earl | August 8, 2007 at 2:45 pm |

    I know they’ve pulled #7 Falcons jerseys out of circulation, but what have you guys seen on the street and at the ballparks? Are people still wearing those jerseys? And do you think people will still be wearing them to Falcons games? I think so, especially among fans in the black community. I think the number of #7 supporters is much larger than people realize, even if they aren’t saying much.

  • Broker75 | August 8, 2007 at 2:49 pm |

    That’s a cool looking buffalo

  • Shadeymonk | August 8, 2007 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”130095″]That’s a cool looking buffalo[/quote]

    yea, too bad its not legit

  • patrick | August 8, 2007 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”130093″]I know they’ve pulled #7 Falcons jerseys out of circulation, but what have you guys seen on the street and at the ballparks? Are people still wearing those jerseys? And do you think people will still be wearing them to Falcons games? I think so, especially among fans in the black community. I think the number of #7 supporters is much larger than people realize, even if they aren’t saying much.[/quote]

    Scoop Jackson wrote a lame ass column about wearing a bonds jersey just to spite people essentially, and he mentioned he ran into a guy wearing a vick jersey who said “i think hes guilty as hell, but hes gettin a raw deal”… I think you’ll see them at Falcons games, just not many other places

  • Purple Brigade | August 8, 2007 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”130095″]That’s a cool looking buffalo[/quote]

    That’s an albino buffalo. Check the red eyes.

    Wasn’t there a movie about an albino buffalo?

  • Banker Bill | August 8, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”130054″][quote comment=”130046″]I was surprised by the number of Pettite and Clemens jerseys I saw. This doesn’t bother me either but I would not wear either of these jerseys in Houston. Well I would wear the jersey but definitely take the name off, or at least take a magic marker and cross out the name.[/quote]

    I’m not sure I follow you on this one. If I have a Tom Seaver jersey, should I cross it out because he didn’t stay with the Mets for his whole career? Or, a more recent example, should all Texeira (Teixeira?) fans in Texas take him off their jerseys? Or, you as a Cubs fan, what about a Mark Grace jersey? Or a Greg Maddux jersey? Should no one wear a Cubs Maddux jersey in Chicago just because he’s on the Padres?

    I love this banter about jersey etiquette, and I think there should be clear-cut rules. Kind of like the whole “never wear the shirt of the band you’re going to see” rule (which is reversed in sports). But, I move to strike this suggestion of “not wearing jerseys of players no longer with the team” from consideration.[/quote]

    Seems to be the opposite in hockey – go to MSG, you’ll see more Messier, Richter, Leetch and Graves jerseys than anyone on the current roster. I still wear my Leetch “2” when I go.

  • CJ | August 8, 2007 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”130092″]I watched the 2nd rate TBS broadcast of the Braves game on Sunday. While talking about Bobby Cox, the cameras got a great shot of Cox loading his mouth full of dip. A little more blatant than just a cylindrical can in one’s pocket.[/quote]

    That’s gold. =P

    My favorite is in one year of our yearbooks, the assistant football coach has a HUGE lip in. It’s hilarious that they put that in. (Especially considering a priest runs yearbook. . .)

  • Kenny | August 8, 2007 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”130089″][quote comment=”130053″][quote comment=”130034″][quote comment=”129944″]What looked REALLY hip was the can of chew clearly visible in Bonds back pocket. “Daddy, what’s that round thing in Bonds’ pocket?” Glad he wasn’t planning on sliding.[/quote]

    Not to get all technical but chew doesn’t come in a can. Chewing tobacco comes in a pouch. Dip, as it’s commonly called, comes in a can or tin.

    Chew is whole tobacco leaves and slightly less delicious than dip.[/quote]

    As a former Skoal man, the common name for the slang “dip” is snuff. If you ran out, you asked a buddy for a “dip” or “rub” of snuff. :0)

    The popular chewing tobacco brands in the US are very coarsely shredded, also referred to as “loose leaf”, but they aren’t whole leaves.

    And yes, after 6 six years of not having any, Skoal was delicious!![/quote]

    See, now I always thought snuff was the very fine cut tobacco. I’ve seen older ball coaches and even some kids around my age (25) sniff the fine cut Copenhagen (which is wierdly disgusting to me). I figured that’s why it was called snuff.

    I know they aren’t really “whole” leaves in the Red Man pouches, but they are much bigger and actually have stems and whatever those wierd vein things that goes through leaves are called.

    I’ve noticed that after the uproar against tobacco products 5 or 6 years ago there are a lot more people with lips in these days. At least that’s what I’ve noticed from night after night of watching Josh Beckett, Brendan Donnelly, Mike Timlin, David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez and, until this year, Terry Francona as well as casual viewing of other teams.

    I’ve also noticed that there are a lot of them that keep the tin in their back pocket which I can tell you from personal experience does not feel great when sliding. You have a nice bump on your butt and are out a good amount of dip in that situation.[/quote]

    Maybe that’s why Manny slides like this

  • Jason G. | August 8, 2007 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”130098″][quote comment=”130093″]I know they’ve pulled #7 Falcons jerseys out of circulation, but what have you guys seen on the street and at the ballparks? Are people still wearing those jerseys? And do you think people will still be wearing them to Falcons games? I think so, especially among fans in the black community. I think the number of #7 supporters is much larger than people realize, even if they aren’t saying much.[/quote]

    Scoop Jackson wrote a lame ass column about wearing a bonds jersey just to spite people essentially, and he mentioned he ran into a guy wearing a vick jersey who said “i think hes guilty as hell, but hes gettin a raw deal”… I think you’ll see them at Falcons games, just not many other places[/quote]

    I read that article too. (Complete waste of 10 mins.) The quote was actually, “I think he’s guilty as hell, but I still got his back.”. Which makes the guy an even bigger idiot than how you had him quoted. Just goes to show no matter how ludicrous someone’s behavior is, there will always be people around that will support that person.

  • Pat | August 8, 2007 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”130108″][quote comment=”130098″][quote comment=”130093″]I know they’ve pulled #7 Falcons jerseys out of circulation, but what have you guys seen on the street and at the ballparks? Are people still wearing those jerseys? And do you think people will still be wearing them to Falcons games? I think so, especially among fans in the black community. I think the number of #7 supporters is much larger than people realize, even if they aren’t saying much.[/quote]

    Scoop Jackson wrote a lame ass column about wearing a bonds jersey just to spite people essentially, and he mentioned he ran into a guy wearing a vick jersey who said “i think hes guilty as hell, but hes gettin a raw deal”… I think you’ll see them at Falcons games, just not many other places[/quote]

    I read that article too. (Complete waste of 10 mins.) The quote was actually, “I think he’s guilty as hell, but I still got his back.”. Which makes the guy an even bigger idiot than how you had him quoted. Just goes to show no matter how ludicrous someone’s behavior is, there will always be people around that will support that person.[/quote]

    You both forgot to mention that Scoop Jackson is awful and will forever, in my book, be thought of as the guy that wishes he was good enough to be thought of as the homeless man’s Ralph Wiley.

    Case in point with Scoop, his article about how women are “more dominant” than men in sports. What does that even mean anyway. I would link to it but I don’t want to subject anybody to that kind of torture. That was the last time I will ever read Scoop Jackson.

    On a more uni-centric note. Anyone else entering that Chaminade University logo contest that was linked to the other day? If so, anybody come up with any ideas of how you can work a mascot out of the silversword plant?

  • chris | August 8, 2007 at 3:17 pm |

    I have to say, I’m really digging the PSU Vikings new hip modern look. Especially the helmet, real unique. I don’t have a problem if a lesser school goes out on a limb with something different…its their way to get a little attention I guess.

    I mean, something like this happens to Michigan when they switch to adidas? Not cool…but Portland St? Got no problem with that

  • nastykjn | August 8, 2007 at 3:18 pm |

    I guess this isn’t totally uni-related but interesting nonetheless: List of Baseball Players’ Entrance Music

  • Dan | August 8, 2007 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”130077″][quote comment=”130026″][quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    Not at all. I’m from Oakland, live in Atlanta and I’ll be damned if I wear any colors other than my home colors. I think it’s cool if I see someone representing their home allegiance.

    It bothers me to see someone harrassed for wearing a “foreign” jersey. Especially when they are with their kids. I witnessed this many times at Raider games. Shame on those assholes that do that.

    What bothers me the most is if I see some douche wearing an XXL jersey, regardless of the team.

    Find a friggin tailor or by a child’s XL. You look like a friggin dork in a mumu.[/quote]

    If someone’s tiny, they shouldn’t wear a big jersey. There are those of us that need XXL or even bigger.[/quote]

    My buddies and I have an unwritten rule (arrived upon after several drinks at Dave & Buster’s one night)…it’s a football jersey rule. If you are pushing 300…you should not be wearing the number of the QB or the WR. You should be going with the D-End/O-line/LB jersey. If you weigh 150 soaking wet, you have no business in a Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher jersey. (Skinny guys get the QB/WR jerseys). Not really serious about enforcement…except amongst our crew.

  • Jabooby | August 8, 2007 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”130100″][quote comment=”130054″][quote comment=”130046″]I was surprised by the number of Pettite and Clemens jerseys I saw. This doesn’t bother me either but I would not wear either of these jerseys in Houston. Well I would wear the jersey but definitely take the name off, or at least take a magic marker and cross out the name.[/quote]

    I’m not sure I follow you on this one. If I have a Tom Seaver jersey, should I cross it out because he didn’t stay with the Mets for his whole career? Or, a more recent example, should all Texeira (Teixeira?) fans in Texas take him off their jerseys? Or, you as a Cubs fan, what about a Mark Grace jersey? Or a Greg Maddux jersey? Should no one wear a Cubs Maddux jersey in Chicago just because he’s on the Padres?

    I love this banter about jersey etiquette, and I think there should be clear-cut rules. Kind of like the whole “never wear the shirt of the band you’re going to see” rule (which is reversed in sports). But, I move to strike this suggestion of “not wearing jerseys of players no longer with the team” from consideration.[/quote]

    Seems to be the opposite in hockey – go to MSG, you’ll see more Messier, Richter, Leetch and Graves jerseys than anyone on the current roster. I still wear my Leetch “2” when I go.[/quote]

    What matters is the name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

    I wouldn’t wear the jersey of player that had left to go to a hated rival, but I don’t see any issue with wearing the jersey of a player that is retired and/or played for other franchises.

  • Kip Whiffle | August 8, 2007 at 3:27 pm |

    In case you missed it, check out the uniforms for the Jets flag girls. That’s uniform related, right?

    http://www.newyorkje...

  • Kings33 | August 8, 2007 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”129988″][quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    What are your thoughts on wearing a cap from a team that isn’t playing? I always wear my Dodger hat to Rangers games, since I live in Dallas now and not L.A. Uniform may be a bit much, but I think just a cap is more understated.[/quote]

    I think 3rd party hats are just fine… I make vacations out of going to multiple ballparks, and I don’t need a cap from all of them, but when I’m in Colo Springs and it’s 102, I need to wear a hat to keep the sun out of my eyes. this year, it was the red DC cap (Last year’s Nats BP)

  • Kyle at IU | August 8, 2007 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”130118″][quote comment=”130100″][quote comment=”130054″][quote comment=”130046″]I was surprised by the number of Pettite and Clemens jerseys I saw. This doesn’t bother me either but I would not wear either of these jerseys in Houston. Well I would wear the jersey but definitely take the name off, or at least take a magic marker and cross out the name.[/quote]

    I’m not sure I follow you on this one. If I have a Tom Seaver jersey, should I cross it out because he didn’t stay with the Mets for his whole career? Or, a more recent example, should all Texeira (Teixeira?) fans in Texas take him off their jerseys? Or, you as a Cubs fan, what about a Mark Grace jersey? Or a Greg Maddux jersey? Should no one wear a Cubs Maddux jersey in Chicago just because he’s on the Padres?

    I love this banter about jersey etiquette, and I think there should be clear-cut rules. Kind of like the whole “never wear the shirt of the band you’re going to see” rule (which is reversed in sports). But, I move to strike this suggestion of “not wearing jerseys of players no longer with the team” from consideration.[/quote]

    Seems to be the opposite in hockey – go to MSG, you’ll see more Messier, Richter, Leetch and Graves jerseys than anyone on the current roster. I still wear my Leetch “2” when I go.[/quote]

    What matters is the name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

    I wouldn’t wear the jersey of player that had left to go to a hated rival, but I don’t see any issue with wearing the jersey of a player that is retired and/or played for other franchises.[/quote]

    Yeah, i still occasionally wear my old Jaromir Jagr sweater in support of the Capitals. The only thing i really have against it is that it’s an old design now.

  • Kenny | August 8, 2007 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”130110″][quote comment=”130108″][quote comment=”130098″][quote comment=”130093″]I know they’ve pulled #7 Falcons jerseys out of circulation, but what have you guys seen on the street and at the ballparks? Are people still wearing those jerseys? And do you think people will still be wearing them to Falcons games? I think so, especially among fans in the black community. I think the number of #7 supporters is much larger than people realize, even if they aren’t saying much.[/quote]

    Scoop Jackson wrote a lame ass column about wearing a bonds jersey just to spite people essentially, and he mentioned he ran into a guy wearing a vick jersey who said “i think hes guilty as hell, but hes gettin a raw deal”… I think you’ll see them at Falcons games, just not many other places[/quote]

    I read that article too. (Complete waste of 10 mins.) The quote was actually, “I think he’s guilty as hell, but I still got his back.”. Which makes the guy an even bigger idiot than how you had him quoted. Just goes to show no matter how ludicrous someone’s behavior is, there will always be people around that will support that person.[/quote]

    You both forgot to mention that Scoop Jackson is awful and will forever, in my book, be thought of as the guy that wishes he was good enough to be thought of as the homeless man’s Ralph Wiley.

    Case in point with Scoop, his article about how women are “more dominant” than men in sports. What does that even mean anyway. I would link to it but I don’t want to subject anybody to that kind of torture. That was the last time I will ever read Scoop Jackson.

    On a more uni-centric note. Anyone else entering that Chaminade University logo contest that was linked to the other day? If so, anybody come up with any ideas of how you can work a mascot out of the silversword plant?[/quote]

    I’ve been thinking about entering, just haven’t designed anything yet. That’s the challenging part is how to make a mascot out a plant that wouldn’t look ridiculous like Stanford

  • DenverGregg | August 8, 2007 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”130117″][quote comment=”130077″][quote comment=”130026″][quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    Not at all. I’m from Oakland, live in Atlanta and I’ll be damned if I wear any colors other than my home colors. I think it’s cool if I see someone representing their home allegiance.

    It bothers me to see someone harrassed for wearing a “foreign” jersey. Especially when they are with their kids. I witnessed this many times at Raider games. Shame on those assholes that do that.

    What bothers me the most is if I see some douche wearing an XXL jersey, regardless of the team.

    Find a friggin tailor or by a child’s XL. You look like a friggin dork in a mumu.[/quote]

    If someone’s tiny, they shouldn’t wear a big jersey. There are those of us that need XXL or even bigger.[/quote]

    My buddies and I have an unwritten rule (arrived upon after several drinks at Dave & Buster’s one night)…it’s a football jersey rule. If you are pushing 300…you should not be wearing the number of the QB or the WR. You should be going with the D-End/O-line/LB jersey. If you weigh 150 soaking wet, you have no business in a Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher jersey. (Skinny guys get the QB/WR jerseys). Not really serious about enforcement…except amongst our crew.[/quote]
    Works for me. But really skinny guys should get kicker or punter jerseys.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | August 8, 2007 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”130119″]In case you missed it, check out the uniforms for the Jets flag girls. That’s uniform related, right?

    http://www.newyorkje...

    Boo-yah! A couple of US airlines could use “flight crews” like these

  • Jabooby | August 8, 2007 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”130121″][quote comment=”130118″][quote comment=”130100″][quote comment=”130054″][quote comment=”130046″]I was surprised by the number of Pettite and Clemens jerseys I saw. This doesn’t bother me either but I would not wear either of these jerseys in Houston. Well I would wear the jersey but definitely take the name off, or at least take a magic marker and cross out the name.[/quote]

    I’m not sure I follow you on this one. If I have a Tom Seaver jersey, should I cross it out because he didn’t stay with the Mets for his whole career? Or, a more recent example, should all Texeira (Teixeira?) fans in Texas take him off their jerseys? Or, you as a Cubs fan, what about a Mark Grace jersey? Or a Greg Maddux jersey? Should no one wear a Cubs Maddux jersey in Chicago just because he’s on the Padres?

    I love this banter about jersey etiquette, and I think there should be clear-cut rules. Kind of like the whole “never wear the shirt of the band you’re going to see” rule (which is reversed in sports). But, I move to strike this suggestion of “not wearing jerseys of players no longer with the team” from consideration.[/quote]

    Seems to be the opposite in hockey – go to MSG, you’ll see more Messier, Richter, Leetch and Graves jerseys than anyone on the current roster. I still wear my Leetch “2” when I go.[/quote]

    What matters is the name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

    I wouldn’t wear the jersey of player that had left to go to a hated rival, but I don’t see any issue with wearing the jersey of a player that is retired and/or played for other franchises.[/quote]

    Yeah, i still occasionally wear my old Jaromir Jagr sweater in support of the Capitals. The only thing i really have against it is that it’s an old design now.[/quote]

    That seems wrong, since he’s on another team in the Caps division now.

  • Teebz | August 8, 2007 at 3:42 pm |

    I’ll drop in with this tidbit:

    I wore my Belarus jersey to the Sweden-Finland 5th-place game in Grand Forks during the 2005 World Junior Championships. I have never got more seething looks-of-death from Swedish fans in all my life.

    Finland won the game in OT by a score of 4-3, by the way.

  • Robert | August 8, 2007 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”129988″][quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    What are your thoughts on wearing a cap from a team that isn’t playing? I always wear my Dodger hat to Rangers games, since I live in Dallas now and not L.A. Uniform may be a bit much, but I think just a cap is more understated.[/quote]

    I don’t have a problem with someone wearing either a hat or jersey of a team that isn’t playing. Plenty of folks are not fans of the team in the city in which they are living, but they want to fly their teams’ colors and show support of baseball in general. There’s nothing wrong with that.

  • Lighten Up | August 8, 2007 at 3:43 pm |

    Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?

    Does it bother anyone when some guy decides to appoint himself the etiquette king and uses a vulgarity to tar an entire group of people about whom he knows nothing?

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | August 8, 2007 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”130122″][quote comment=”130110″][quote comment=”130108″][quote comment=”130098″][quote comment=”130093″]

    On a more uni-centric note. Anyone else entering that Chaminade University logo contest that was linked to the other day? If so, anybody come up with any ideas of how you can work a mascot out of the silversword plant?[/quote]

    I’ve been thinking about entering, just haven’t designed anything yet. That’s the challenging part is how to make a mascot out a plant that wouldn’t look ridiculous like Stanford[/quote]

    It’ll be pretty tough to design a logo based on a plant that looks like this, especially for any of the women’s teams (smirk, snort) :-)

  • Mike from Queens | August 8, 2007 at 3:46 pm |

    This is ridiculously long and I apologize. I just kept writing and once I worked on it for too long to not post it. You may just want to skip it if you’re not interested in uniform etiquette.

    [quote comment=”130075″]I see the original poster’s point of view. Pettitte and Clemens willingly left the Astros in free agency (Clemens with much less grace, may I add). Therefore, they probably are not very popular in Houston anymore.[/quote]

    So this means that the people who spent $80-$250 on replica jerseys should deface them or closet them? I’m not sure I can agree with this. Going with your system means a few things. Only players that match the following description are welcome to having their jerseys worn:

    1. Hall of Famer in that hat/jersey.
    2. Player cannot leave via free agency.
    3. Years of service in a different jersey cannot exceed the years of service for the jersey in question, unless that player comes back willingly (your Maddux comment).
    4. Player is traded away.

    We will need several clarifications here.

    1. Although I like your Ray Bourque Corollary, it could apply to Clemens and Pettitte as well. They left Houston to have a chance to win a championship. Or, does it matter that they’ve already won? Their jerseys are still okay to me because of the Free Agent Splash Rule. Any player who signs with a team and is considered a huge off-season acquisition, their jerseys should be good forever.

    2. I’m going to say that if Maddux was still with the Braves and never went back to the Cubs, his Cubs jersey is still fine by me. This would need the Greg Maddux / Barry Bonds Clause. Any player who wins an MVP or Cy Young with a certain team has uniform rights with that team forever, even if they go on to solidify their careers elsewhere (Bonds, 1990 and 1992 MVP with Pirates / Maddux, 1992 Cy Young with Cubs).

    3. What about players like Jerry Rice? He left via free agency. We need the Jerry Rice Inclusion. Any player who is no longer offered a roster spot due to age or perceived deteriorating skills. Mike Piazza (Mets) is a fine example of this.

    4. The Barry Zito Corollary. Any player whose original team cannot afford to keep them, so they go elsewhere. This covers the Teixeira trade, Carlos Lee (Brewers), any significant A’s player of recent memory, Carlos Beltran (Royals), Marlins fans post 97 and 03.

    5. The David Eckstein Exception. Scrappy players who get by on guts alone—fan favorites who leave for whatever reason. Thus, Eckstein Angel jerseys are still good. Another example would be Rob Ray (Sabres).

    6. He Played for Them? Amendment. Paul’s ESPN Cameo edition column will cover this (the page on espn wasn’t loading, so I won’t link to it). Brett Favre Falcon jerseys, Joe Namath Ram jerseys, Jerry Rice Seahawk jerseys… all acceptable.

    7. Criminal Concession. I have a friend who only wears the jerseys of known criminals or players who have been soiled by criminal proceedings. (Note: he does it to bring attention to the fact that athletes should not be role models, not because he condones their alleged or convicted behavior.) OJ Simpson, Pete Rose, Michael Irvin, Nate Newton, Kobe Bryant, Michael Vick… etc. Any jersey, any time is acceptable.

    8. Exclusions. Well, this will be a long and changing list, but the two examples of Owens and Spree work for me.
    a. Spree Rule. No choking your coach.
    b. TO Rule. No being such a distraction you divide your clubhouse more than the eastern seaboard in 1860. This includes people like Kyle Farnsworth and Carl Pavano, people who either bring incessant negative energy or steal $40 million.
    c. Yashin Rule AKA underachieving Russian hockey player rule (feel free to insert Sergei Samsonov, Fedorov post-Red Wings, Oleg Kvasha, Khabibulin with Hawks). No player whose commitment to playing the game causes their contracts to be bought out.
    d. Gary Sheffield Rule. He gets his own. No one should own a Sheffield jersey.

    Sorry again. All submissions/suggestions/changes welcome.

  • Teebz | August 8, 2007 at 3:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”130130″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?

    Does it bother anyone when some guy decides to appoint himself the etiquette king and uses a vulgarity to tar an entire group of people about whom he knows nothing?[/quote]

    Yeah, but you come to expect that when it comes to opinions. Opinions are like a rear end orifice: everyone has one.

  • Kip Whiffle | August 8, 2007 at 3:48 pm |

    Yeah, but you come to expect that when it comes to opinions. Opinions are like a rear end orifice: everyone has one.

    …and most of them stink.

  • Dan | August 8, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”130125″][quote comment=”130117″][quote comment=”130077″][quote comment=”130026″][quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    Not at all. I’m from Oakland, live in Atlanta and I’ll be damned if I wear any colors other than my home colors. I think it’s cool if I see someone representing their home allegiance.

    It bothers me to see someone harrassed for wearing a “foreign” jersey. Especially when they are with their kids. I witnessed this many times at Raider games. Shame on those assholes that do that.

    What bothers me the most is if I see some douche wearing an XXL jersey, regardless of the team.

    Find a friggin tailor or by a child’s XL. You look like a friggin dork in a mumu.[/quote]

    If someone’s tiny, they shouldn’t wear a big jersey. There are those of us that need XXL or even bigger.[/quote]

    My buddies and I have an unwritten rule (arrived upon after several drinks at Dave & Buster’s one night)…it’s a football jersey rule. If you are pushing 300…you should not be wearing the number of the QB or the WR. You should be going with the D-End/O-line/LB jersey. If you weigh 150 soaking wet, you have no business in a Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher jersey. (Skinny guys get the QB/WR jerseys). Not really serious about enforcement…except amongst our crew.[/quote]
    Works for me. But really skinny guys should get kicker or punter jerseys.[/quote]

    That arguement DID come up! However, I mentioned that unless you’re in Baltimore (where the kicker has accounted for 95% of all points scored since 1995…a fact that’s completely made up, but seems about right) or Denver, you’re probably not getting an off the shelf kicker jersey. We restricted the jersey corrollary rules to the non-custom jerseys, since most of us weren’t shelling out the $199 for the “any player we want” option.

  • philip | August 8, 2007 at 3:50 pm |

    That helmet spear logo looks like it was taken right from The Frat Boy’s Book of Tattoo Art. No me gusto.

  • Dan | August 8, 2007 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”130127″][quote comment=”130121″][quote comment=”130118″][quote comment=”130100″][quote comment=”130054″][quote comment=”130046″]I was surprised by the number of Pettite and Clemens jerseys I saw. This doesn’t bother me either but I would not wear either of these jerseys in Houston. Well I would wear the jersey but definitely take the name off, or at least take a magic marker and cross out the name.[/quote]

    I’m not sure I follow you on this one. If I have a Tom Seaver jersey, should I cross it out because he didn’t stay with the Mets for his whole career? Or, a more recent example, should all Texeira (Teixeira?) fans in Texas take him off their jerseys? Or, you as a Cubs fan, what about a Mark Grace jersey? Or a Greg Maddux jersey? Should no one wear a Cubs Maddux jersey in Chicago just because he’s on the Padres?

    I love this banter about jersey etiquette, and I think there should be clear-cut rules. Kind of like the whole “never wear the shirt of the band you’re going to see” rule (which is reversed in sports). But, I move to strike this suggestion of “not wearing jerseys of players no longer with the team” from consideration.[/quote]

    Seems to be the opposite in hockey – go to MSG, you’ll see more Messier, Richter, Leetch and Graves jerseys than anyone on the current roster. I still wear my Leetch “2” when I go.[/quote]

    What matters is the name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

    I wouldn’t wear the jersey of player that had left to go to a hated rival, but I don’t see any issue with wearing the jersey of a player that is retired and/or played for other franchises.[/quote]

    Yeah, i still occasionally wear my old Jaromir Jagr sweater in support of the Capitals. The only thing i really have against it is that it’s an old design now.[/quote]

    That seems wrong, since he’s on another team in the Caps division now.[/quote]

    Nope. Caps are in the crapp-a$$ Southeast division. They SHOULD be in the Atlantic, with Jagr’s Rangers and all their old Patrick Division pals, but that’s not the way Bettman rolled the dice. (Don’t get me started!)

  • Teebz | August 8, 2007 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”130135″]
    That arguement DID come up! However, I mentioned that unless you’re in Baltimore (where the kicker has accounted for 95% of all points scored since 1995…a fact that’s completely made up, but seems about right) or Denver, you’re probably not getting an off the shelf kicker jersey. We restricted the jersey corrollary rules to the non-custom jerseys, since most of us weren’t shelling out the $199 for the “any player we want” option.[/quote]

    Or that Vinatieri guy. I heard he was a decent kicker. ;o)

  • Dan | August 8, 2007 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”130139″][quote comment=”130135″]
    That arguement DID come up! However, I mentioned that unless you’re in Baltimore (where the kicker has accounted for 95% of all points scored since 1995…a fact that’s completely made up, but seems about right) or Denver, you’re probably not getting an off the shelf kicker jersey. We restricted the jersey corrollary rules to the non-custom jerseys, since most of us weren’t shelling out the $199 for the “any player we want” option.[/quote]

    Or that Vinatieri guy. I heard he was a decent kicker. ;o)[/quote]

    Are the Colts putting his jersey out in mass prod? I know the Pats did…but I wasn’t sure about Indy.

  • Banker Bill | August 8, 2007 at 3:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”130139″][quote comment=”130135″]
    That arguement DID come up! However, I mentioned that unless you’re in Baltimore (where the kicker has accounted for 95% of all points scored since 1995…a fact that’s completely made up, but seems about right) or Denver, you’re probably not getting an off the shelf kicker jersey. We restricted the jersey corrollary rules to the non-custom jerseys, since most of us weren’t shelling out the $199 for the “any player we want” option.[/quote]

    Or that Vinatieri guy. I heard he was a decent kicker. ;o)[/quote]

    Yeah, he’s half-way decent. Did he have a couple of important kicks?

    Vinatieri – italian for “the anti-Norwood”.

  • Teebz | August 8, 2007 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”130143″][quote comment=”130139″][quote comment=”130135″]
    That arguement DID come up! However, I mentioned that unless you’re in Baltimore (where the kicker has accounted for 95% of all points scored since 1995…a fact that’s completely made up, but seems about right) or Denver, you’re probably not getting an off the shelf kicker jersey. We restricted the jersey corrollary rules to the non-custom jerseys, since most of us weren’t shelling out the $199 for the “any player we want” option.[/quote]

    Or that Vinatieri guy. I heard he was a decent kicker. ;o)[/quote]

    Are the Colts putting his jersey out in mass prod? I know the Pats did…but I wasn’t sure about Indy.[/quote]

    I have a friend who has one. I haven’t seen that mass production of them yet, but he bought a plain Colts jersey on Ebay and had it customized.

    I can cehck with the guy I got my Eli Manning jersey from. He’d know as his college roommate now works for Reebok in South Korea.

  • Beats in Buffalo | August 8, 2007 at 4:08 pm |

    Im probably just a wishful thinking Sabres fan but the background of the logos in post 142 look a lot like the background of the current Sabres logo that was leaked around this time last year so maybe there is hope of a return to a modified Buffalo and crossed sabres design as the Sabres GM hinted at during last years press confrence of the relese of the throwback design when he said that jersey would be modified to match the current shade of blue.

  • Jaye | August 8, 2007 at 4:12 pm |

    My 10-year-old wanted to burn his two Vick jerseys. He decided to keep them, but he won’t wear them.

    I HAD to wear my Braves jersey to a recent Devil Rays game because I spilled something on my shirt on the way to the game and the jersey was the only top I had in the car. I felt out of place … but I do anyway, what with being a National League girl in an American League town (Rays and strong very strong Yankees and Red Sox contingents …. pass me a beer).

  • Jeff | August 8, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    Works for me. But really skinny guys should get kicker or punter jerseys.

    Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. No one should ever were a kicker or a punter jersey. It looks ridiculous. The last time the Eagles came to the ‘Burgh, I could believe how may Eagles fans had on David Akers jerseys. More than McNabb or Dawkins or even TO who was on the team then. Its like buying the jersey of the bullpen catcher. Just bad form as far as I am concerned.

  • Kris McInnis | August 8, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    I heard that Oregon is looking into and attempting to play it’s 2009 season opener against Boise St. in friggin’ China. I’m not a conspiracy theorist or anything, but I have a feeling who has their voice in someone’s ear over this. Hint: It’s not Tiger.

  • Ian K | August 8, 2007 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”130136″]That helmet spear logo looks like it was taken right from The Frat Boy’s Book of Tattoo Art. No me gusto.[/quote]

    That sounds like a great read! Where did you get that book?

  • TOG | August 8, 2007 at 4:26 pm |

    Careful out there in Brooklyn Paul…

    http://www.msnbc.msn...

    Yipes…

  • Jason G. | August 8, 2007 at 4:29 pm |

    As far as putting a weight limit on jersey positions you can wear, it doesn’t really work when you have guys like Jared Lorenzen in the league. He weighs in at 285 lbs.(pushing 300) and is a QB. Maybe that should be the cut off. Take the heaviest guy at a certain position and that is the weight limit for that position’s jerseys. By the way, I am in no way degrading Lorenzen. I love the “Pillsbury Throw Boy”. I think he’d be better than “Not Peyton” if given the chance.

  • David I. | August 8, 2007 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”129955″][quote comment=”129947″]In actuality, the interesting thing is that the spear really doesn’t have a lot to do with Vikings.[/quote]

    Not true. Scroll down to the “Viking Weaponry” section on this page, for example.[/quote]

    While that’s generally true, what the person was trying to say is that a spear is not generally associated with Vikings. That’s usually associated with Native Americans, so there might be confusion. They should have gone with a sword, a horn, or something else more closely associated with the Vikings than a spear.

  • possum | August 8, 2007 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”130128″]I’ll drop in with this tidbit:

    I wore my Belarus jersey to the Sweden-Finland 5th-place game in Grand Forks during the 2005 World Junior Championships. I have never got more seething looks-of-death from Swedish fans in all my life.

    Finland won the game in OT by a score of 4-3, by the way.[/quote]
    I was in Seattle last Labor Day for a job interview and went up to Everett to see a preseason tourney with several teams including the Kamloops Blazers. I wore my Canes tshirt (I’m from NC and it was right after they won the cup). I seriously thought the Kamloops fans were going to take me out back. That’s when I learned to hate the Oilers. :)

  • Saru | August 8, 2007 at 4:39 pm |

    I think that vikings and spears go together because this image (the best I could come up with) comes to mind. Maybe Glanville likes opera?

  • Dan | August 8, 2007 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”130156″]As far as putting a weight limit on jersey positions you can wear, it doesn’t really work when you have guys like Jared Lorenzen in the league. He weighs in at 285 lbs.(pushing 300) and is a QB. Maybe that should be the cut off. Take the heaviest guy at a certain position and that is the weight limit for that position’s jerseys. By the way, I am in no way degrading Lorenzen. I love the “Pillsbury Throw Boy”. I think he’d be better than “Not Peyton” if given the chance.[/quote]

    Yeah…Lorenzen was the rallying point for the bigger guys who wanted to wear a QB jersey…but none of them wanted to wear HIS jersey…so they caved.

  • Jason G. | August 8, 2007 at 4:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”130169″][quote comment=”130156″]As far as putting a weight limit on jersey positions you can wear, it doesn’t really work when you have guys like Jared Lorenzen in the league. He weighs in at 285 lbs.(pushing 300) and is a QB. Maybe that should be the cut off. Take the heaviest guy at a certain position and that is the weight limit for that position’s jerseys. By the way, I am in no way degrading Lorenzen. I love the “Pillsbury Throw Boy”. I think he’d be better than “Not Peyton” if given the chance.[/quote]

    Yeah…Lorenzen was the rallying point for the bigger guys who wanted to wear a QB jersey…but none of them wanted to wear HIS jersey…so they caved.[/quote]

    So what is the weight limit then? Jamarcus Russell and Daunte Culpepper are 260 and 265 respectively. Not lightweights by any means.

  • cathy | August 8, 2007 at 4:49 pm |

    Hey Paul,

    You make it through the storms ok today?

  • Johnny O | August 8, 2007 at 4:55 pm |

    Going off of yesterdays comments about the University of Wisconsin going red-on-red for home games this year according to NCC ’08 the video game, I e-mailed the equipment managers at UW and here is what he said…

    “To my knowledge we have never worn red on red. At this point we have no plans to wear red on red.”

    Mark Peeler E.M.,C.
    Football Equipment Manager
    University of Wisconsin

    So evidently the game is scored up. But I mean that is a pretty significant screw up. Usually they are dead on with uni’s. Anyone else know of any other screw ups in the game???

  • Dom | August 8, 2007 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”130152″]Works for me. But really skinny guys should get kicker or punter jerseys.

    Wrong, Wrong, Wrong. No one should ever were a kicker or a punter jersey. It looks ridiculous. The last time the Eagles came to the ‘Burgh, I could believe how may Eagles fans had on David Akers jerseys. More than McNabb or Dawkins or even TO who was on the team then. Its like buying the jersey of the bullpen catcher. Just bad form as far as I am concerned.[/quote]

    Yea I live in southern New Jersey and I see a lot of Akers jerseys during the season on people (mostly women) and I ask myself why would you want a kickers jersey? I also think its funny how one of my friends has a pink Akers jersey. I just laugh thinking that she has a pink kickers jersey.

  • Chance | August 8, 2007 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”130075″]I see the original poster’s point of view. Pettitte and Clemens willingly left the Astros in free agency (Clemens with much less grace, may I add). Therefore, they probably are not very popular in Houston anymore.
    [/quote]
    I don’t see why they should be unpopular in Houston.

    If they were homegrown players who left to chase dollars, then I could understand it. But they came via free agency, they left via free agency. Where’s the beef?

  • Dan | August 8, 2007 at 4:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”130171″][quote comment=”130169″][quote comment=”130156″]As far as putting a weight limit on jersey positions you can wear, it doesn’t really work when you have guys like Jared Lorenzen in the league. He weighs in at 285 lbs.(pushing 300) and is a QB. Maybe that should be the cut off. Take the heaviest guy at a certain position and that is the weight limit for that position’s jerseys. By the way, I am in no way degrading Lorenzen. I love the “Pillsbury Throw Boy”. I think he’d be better than “Not Peyton” if given the chance.[/quote]

    Yeah…Lorenzen was the rallying point for the bigger guys who wanted to wear a QB jersey…but none of them wanted to wear HIS jersey…so they caved.[/quote]

    So what is the weight limit then? Jamarcus Russell and Daunte Culpepper are 260 and 265 respectively. Not lightweights by any means.[/quote]

    It’s less of a hard weight cap…and more of a “if your fat ass looks like a lineman, don’t wear a QB jersey!” As you can see a very scientific process.

  • howie | August 8, 2007 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”130136″]That helmet spear logo looks like it was taken right from The Frat Boy’s Book of Tattoo Art. No me gusto.[/quote]
    Now that’s funny!

  • Chance | August 8, 2007 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”130157″][quote comment=”129955″][quote comment=”129947″]In actuality, the interesting thing is that the spear really doesn’t have a lot to do with Vikings.[/quote]

    Not true. Scroll down to the “Viking Weaponry” section on this page, for example.[/quote]

    While that’s generally true, what the person was trying to say is that a spear is not generally associated with Vikings. That’s usually associated with Native Americans, so there might be confusion. They should have gone with a sword, a horn, or something else more closely associated with the Vikings than a spear.[/quote]
    So this is an opportunity to dispel those mistaken impressions.

    Who says college athletics aren’t educational?

  • Dan | August 8, 2007 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”130175″]Going off of yesterdays comments about the University of Wisconsin going red-on-red for home games this year according to NCC ’08 the video game, I e-mailed the equipment managers at UW and here is what he said…

    “To my knowledge we have never worn red on red. At this point we have no plans to wear red on red.”

    Mark Peeler E.M.,C.
    Football Equipment Manager
    University of Wisconsin

    So evidently the game is scored up. But I mean that is a pretty significant screw up. Usually they are dead on with uni’s. Anyone else know of any other screw ups in the game???[/quote]

    NCAA likes to defaul the Terps to Red on Red (not sure if they did that this year.) Terps generally only do that on Homecoming (thank god! Loathe it!)

    They also used to have Herbstreet intro the home Terps games as being in Baltimore, when College Park is actually inside the DC Beltway. 30 miles from Crabtown.

  • B.G. | August 8, 2007 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”129987″][quote comment=”129982″]By the way, TO’s shirt is the Jordan Tight Long-Sleeve top, shown here:

    http://www.nike.com/...
    Yikes that shirt is even more disturbing when you see the whole thing…[/quote]
    Is that pattern on the shirt Nike shoes? It looks like some sort of outline of shoes. I looked at it closely and made me kinda woozy :)

  • Matthew S. | August 8, 2007 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”130065″][quote comment=”130049″][quote comment=”130030″]..they had television back then?? haha, just kidding. I know we are not supposed to talk about all this, but at least noone is spazzing out about the subject so far.., but how was it back then?, I mean like the media, the reception, the fans, players etc..didn’t two fans run on the field and trot the bases with Hank? that’s crazy. Where’s the ball that Aaron hit?[/quote]
    Yes, two college kids did run onto the field to congratulate Hank. Both were arrested, I think. One of the Braves’ relief pitchers caught 715 (it landed in the Braves bullpen). They all ran to greet Hank, and the pitcher handed Hank the ball. Don’t know if he still has it…[/quote]
    Pitcher=Tom House.[/quote]

    Are you talking about the pitcher who caught it in the bullpen? Because the Dodgers pitcher who threw the pitch was Al Downing.

    I remember reading that Hank was at first startled to see people running up to him while he was rounding the bases. He had been getting death threats during his chase of Ruth and he had no idea if the two guys were coming up to congratulate him or to attack him.

  • Dan | August 8, 2007 at 5:04 pm |

    sorry if this was posted already, here is the last piece of Vick merchandise that can be purchased. The uniform is obviously not official, but we should let them slide for creativity:

    http://www.vickdogch...

  • Mike Engle | August 8, 2007 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”130184″][quote comment=”130065″][quote comment=”130049″][quote comment=”130030″]..they had television back then?? haha, just kidding. I know we are not supposed to talk about all this, but at least noone is spazzing out about the subject so far.., but how was it back then?, I mean like the media, the reception, the fans, players etc..didn’t two fans run on the field and trot the bases with Hank? that’s crazy. Where’s the ball that Aaron hit?[/quote]
    Yes, two college kids did run onto the field to congratulate Hank. Both were arrested, I think. One of the Braves’ relief pitchers caught 715 (it landed in the Braves bullpen). They all ran to greet Hank, and the pitcher handed Hank the ball. Don’t know if he still has it…[/quote]
    Pitcher=Tom House.[/quote]

    Are you talking about the pitcher who caught it in the bullpen? Because the Dodgers pitcher who threw the pitch was Al Downing.

    I remember reading that Hank was at first startled to see people running up to him while he was rounding the bases. He had been getting death threats during his chase of Ruth and he had no idea if the two guys were coming up to congratulate him or to attack him.[/quote]
    Yes. “One of the Braves’ relief pitchers caught 715″=Tom House.

  • Dan | August 8, 2007 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”130182″][quote comment=”129987″][quote comment=”129982″]By the way, TO’s shirt is the Jordan Tight Long-Sleeve top, shown here:

    http://www.nike.com/...
    Yikes that shirt is even more disturbing when you see the whole thing…[/quote]
    Is that pattern on the shirt Nike shoes? It looks like some sort of outline of shoes. I looked at it closely and made me kinda woozy :)[/quote]

    Since Pedro never cashed his check…can we issue a new one in the same amount…send it to TO to buy a pair of shorts to wear over those tights?

  • chris | August 8, 2007 at 5:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”130153″]I heard that Oregon is looking into and attempting to play it’s 2009 season opener against Boise St. in friggin’ China. I’m not a conspiracy theorist or anything, but I have a feeling who has their voice in someone’s ear over this. Hint: It’s not Tiger.[/quote]

    I don’t think its been said where in China it might be played in, but it might have something to do with Oregon’s Warsaw Sports Marketing Center having a strong relationship with china’s Fudan University. They don’t just exchange students but faculty as well. But of course…with Nike’s ties to Oregon and their strong prescence in China that has to have something to do with it. Boise St. though??? Maybe its just the way the schedule goes

  • Brad | August 8, 2007 at 6:02 pm |

    I walked our dog around the neighborhood in my Michael Vick jersey just to see people’s reactions lol

  • furrymunsters | August 8, 2007 at 6:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]
    Only “douches” who complain about it bother me!

  • nastykjn | August 8, 2007 at 6:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”130203″]I walked our dog around the neighborhood in my Michael Vick jersey just to see people’s reactions lol[/quote]

    Now THAT’S FUNNY

  • Joseph | August 8, 2007 at 6:19 pm |

    quote comment=”130093″]I know they’ve pulled #7 Falcons jerseys out of circulation, but what have you guys seen on the street and at the ballparks? Are people still wearing those jerseys? And do you think people will still be wearing them to Falcons games? I think so, especially among fans in the black community. I think the number of #7 supporters is much larger than people realize, even if they aren’t saying much.[/quote]

    There are still plenty of red and black number 7 jerseys to be seen in Georgia, the only difference is this QB can actually throw.
    [

  • DW in Tampa Bay | August 8, 2007 at 6:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”129972″]Anyone notice that in the Mauer picture with the 35W memorial sticker, his #7 is in the Red Sox font?

    http://farm2.static....

    I am sure someone has caught this already.[/quote]

    Every day, at least twice since the picture was first posted.

  • Valjean | August 8, 2007 at 6:26 pm |

    I think that vikings and spears go together because this image (the best I could come up with) comes to mind. Maybe Glanville likes opera?

    Vikings? Spears?

    How about this?

    Imagine the logo possibilities! Glanville obviously doesn’t like opera enough — or have (hip) kids!

  • ThresherhK | August 8, 2007 at 6:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when someone wears a jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    In the CFL fans of all teams can be seen flying their colours at the Grey Cup game, and events during the preceding week. You can even see the Ottawa Renegades represented, if you look hard enough.

    It’s a big end of year party, like the Super Bowl, except for fans instead of corporate attaches :-).

  • Bill T. | August 8, 2007 at 6:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”129905″][quote comment=”129898″]…anybody else catch on to the karma surrounding 756? Pitcher who served up: Mike Bascik Jr.
    Pitcher who pitched to Hank Aaron after he hit 755: Mike Bascik Sr.[/quote]

    There is a difference between coincidence and karma.[/quote]

    More coincidence than karma, the right fielder for the Halos when Hank hit 755 was Bobby Bonds (even though it was hit to left).

    Playing left for the Dodgers when Aaron hit 715 was Billy Buckner.

    Balls hit in Billy’s direction that elude him tend to make history…

  • chris | August 8, 2007 at 6:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”130204″][quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]
    Only “douches” who complain about it bother me![/quote]

    I second that.

  • Brendan | August 8, 2007 at 6:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”130182″][quote comment=”129987″][quote comment=”129982″]By the way, TO’s shirt is the Jordan Tight Long-Sleeve top, shown here:

    http://www.nike.com/...
    Yikes that shirt is even more disturbing when you see the whole thing…[/quote]
    Is that pattern on the shirt Nike shoes? It looks like some sort of outline of shoes. I looked at it closely and made me kinda woozy :)[/quote]

    It most definitely is. A rough estimate (from someone who sells Jordan stuff), 90% of Jordan tops have shoes on them somewhere.

  • Mike Honer | August 8, 2007 at 6:53 pm |

    In another one of SI.com’s Photo Galleries, they posted a wonderful picture of Sean Taylor in all his stripe-drunk glory.

    I love this guy.

  • Matt D. | August 8, 2007 at 7:07 pm |

    Yes, two college kids did run onto the field to congratulate Hank. Both were arrested, I think. One of the Braves’ relief pitchers caught 715 (it landed in the Braves bullpen). They all ran to greet Hank, and the pitcher handed Hank the ball. Don’t know if he still has it…
    Apparently, Bill Buckner was trying to climb the fence to get to the ball, but House beat him to it.

  • Bill T. | August 8, 2007 at 7:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”130221″]Yes, two college kids did run onto the field to congratulate Hank. Both were arrested, I think. One of the Braves’ relief pitchers caught 715 (it landed in the Braves bullpen). They all ran to greet Hank, and the pitcher handed Hank the ball. Don’t know if he still has it…
    Apparently, Bill Buckner was trying to climb the fence to get to the ball, but House beat him to it.[/quote]

    As I recall, the pitchers in the Braves bullpen agreed to stake out about 10 feet each when Henry came out to bat. Tom House won out. The following video seems to confirm that as well as Buckner’s effort (#22).

    Tribute on YouTube

    Watching this, I’m thinking of the weird juxtapositioning of NIN music and Henry Aaron.

    Then it hits me. Nails… the Hammer…

  • Sam W | August 8, 2007 at 7:40 pm |

    Hey Paul,

    Was that first paragraph about Elvis Tickets and James Dean’s car an obscure reference to a late 80’s Sports Illustrated tape “Greatest Sports Follies”? If so, AWESOME!!! When I was a kid, I watched that tape over and over again. Any sports fan/80’s buff would get a huge kick out of seeing it. Buy it off of ebay and you will thank yourself.

  • lockbull | August 8, 2007 at 7:59 pm |

    Not sure if anyone has commented on this yet, but SI has posted a gallery of (U. of) Texas’ top 10 Athletes. I’m kinda bummed that none of these ladies made it.

  • Jerico | August 8, 2007 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”130219″]In another one of SI.com’s Photo Galleries, they posted a wonderful picture of Sean Taylor in all his stripe-drunk glory.

    I love this guy.[/quote]
    Look closely and you’ll notice he’s also wearing soccer shoes (some form of the Nike Total90). So, for him, the wearing of the soccer shoes (I think he’s vowed to wear the Ronaldinhos this season) is not really new.

  • Dave A | August 8, 2007 at 8:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”130073″][quote comment=”129976″]Does it bother anybody else when some douche wears a baseball jersey of a team who is not even playing to a game?[/quote]

    I am one of those, er, individuals, and I really don’t care. I need somewhere to wear all of my jerseys, so I’m gonna wear ’em. If I’m wearing my Coyotes sweater to a Devils-Lightning game, so be it.[/quote]

    I agree. With me it’s caps, not jerseys. When I’m going to baseball games, I usually try to grab a cap from a team I can be pretty sure that no one else in the park would be wearing. I’ve had a few interesting conversations with other fans that way.

  • Bill T. | August 8, 2007 at 8:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”130235″]Not sure if anyone has commented on this yet, but SI has posted a gallery of (U. of) Texas’ top 10 Athletes. I’m kinda bummed that none of these ladies made it.[/quote]

    These ladies are not lining up for the 100 meters. Otherwise, their beehives would break the tape by a full step over the competition by lunging at the last stride.

  • Patrick | August 8, 2007 at 9:11 pm |

    I noticed in ESPN’s Barry Bonds coverage that he was wearing a “756” shirt in a postgame interview. Nothing strange about that, since t-shirts are made well in advance for winners of the World Series or the Super Bowl or any other championship. What was interesting is that it seemed the shirt he was wearing had the photo of him just after he hit 756. I guess it’s totally possible they made the shirt between the at bat and the end of the game, but still, I’ve never seen that before.

  • Paul Lukas | August 8, 2007 at 9:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”130173″]Hey Paul,

    You make it through the storms ok today?[/quote]

    Yes, thanks. The thunder woke me up at 5am (and I sleep with earplugs!), and the next hour or so was a fairly amazing display of lightning and thunderclaps, but then I went back to sleep. I work from home, so I didn’t have any commute to worry about. Although the subways were messed up in the morning, I had no problem running a Uni Watch-related errand in Manhattan at noon. Basically, the whole thing had approximately zero effect on me. Lucky fella.

  • possum | August 8, 2007 at 9:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”130242″][quote comment=”130219″]In another one of SI.com’s Photo Galleries, they posted a wonderful picture of Sean Taylor in all his stripe-drunk glory.

    I love this guy.[/quote]
    Look closely and you’ll notice he’s also wearing soccer shoes (some form of the Nike Total90). So, for him, the wearing of the soccer shoes (I think he’s vowed to wear the Ronaldinhos this season) is not really new.[/quote]
    Carlos Rogers is doing the same thing, and yes its Ronaldinho’s shoe.

  • JoeT | August 8, 2007 at 9:35 pm |

    Don’t know if you ever seen this website before but it measures how many people visit a sit. heres the listing for uniwatch.

  • John L. | August 8, 2007 at 9:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”130211″]I think that vikings and spears go together because this image (the best I could come up with) comes to mind. Maybe Glanville likes opera?

    Vikings? Spears?

    How about this?

    Imagine the logo possibilities! Glanville obviously doesn’t like opera enough — or have (hip) kids![/quote]

    BREAKING NEWS FROM PORTLAND:
    Portland State has announced that they will have a new mascot and fight song!

  • Will | August 8, 2007 at 9:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”130254″]Don’t know if you ever seen this website before but it measures how many people visit a sit. heres the listing for uniwatch.[/quote]

    It has uniwatch as the 250,679th most popular website in the world

  • Gabe | August 8, 2007 at 9:56 pm |

    I don’t see what’s wrong with wearing a third-party jersey AT ALL.

    I’m a recently transplanted ex-NY’er now living in North Carolina. So, if I go to see the Hurricanes play (hypothetically) the Avalanche, I should be compelled to buy Canes gear just to wear it to the game? But I’m a Rangers fan…why can’t I wear my Rangers hat? I just want to enjoy a great hockey game in person; what’s wrong with representing my team while I’m doing it?

  • =bg= | August 8, 2007 at 10:00 pm |

    Bonds does have a pretty coool logo of his own;
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    If you go to sfgiants.com, the page initially loads with some new “756” graphic. Predictably, tho, the site offers nothing in the way of desktop wallpaper with this logo- they didn’t even bother with the way cool AGS logo. too bad.

  • =bg= | August 8, 2007 at 10:01 pm |

    PS, and he is smiling in that photo. Don’t see that often.

  • Mike from Queens | August 8, 2007 at 10:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”130260″]PS, and he is smiling in that photo. Don’t see that often.[/quote]

    He’s selling something. Of course he’s smiling. He sees dollar signs and hypodermic needles.

  • =bg= | August 8, 2007 at 10:11 pm |

    In the public interest, I must post the fact Scarlett Johansson has her own personal REEBOK line.

    http://store.reebok....

  • Dennis Abrams | August 8, 2007 at 10:25 pm |

    I noticed during the Mets broadcast today that a Mets batboy/ballboy was wearing stirrups. I’ve never seen this before and am wondering if this is something that all Mets bat/ballboys do.
    I would provide a screengrab but I don’t use any of that fancy Tivo/DVR witchcraft.

  • =bg= | August 8, 2007 at 10:45 pm |

    it’s not witchcraft.
    it’s VOODOO.

  • Jay | August 8, 2007 at 11:07 pm |

    In the event that no one thought to go to the Red Wings website…there’s a pdf order form for their new jerseys…….

    And they look exactly the same

  • Mike Engle | August 8, 2007 at 11:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”130271″]In the event that no one thought to go to the Red Wings website…there’s a pdf order form for their new jerseys…….

    And they look exactly the same[/quote]
    This is encouraging, but given that the Rangers’ word mark had to be adjusted for the template, doesn’t that wheel-wing look a bit too large for the jersey?
    Note that if this is an indication of what is to come, the Red Wings will still be the only Original 6 team without a lace-up collar.

  • ForestGlade | August 8, 2007 at 11:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”130271″]In the event that no one thought to go to the Red Wings website…there’s a pdf order form for their new jerseys…….

    And they look exactly the same[/quote]

    On behalf of Hockeytown, let me be the first to say PHEW!

  • Jay | August 8, 2007 at 11:26 pm |

    Here’s a link to the actual PDF on the Wings’ site in case anyone questions the validity, I just took a crappy screen shot from that PDF.

    I need my beloved Colorado Avs to show us what to do other than a few e-mails from the store at the Pepsi Center saying “They aren’t gonna look much different at all.”

  • keek80 | August 8, 2007 at 11:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”130213″][quote comment=”129905″][quote comment=”129898″]…anybody else catch on to the karma surrounding 756? Pitcher who served up: Mike Bascik Jr.
    Pitcher who pitched to Hank Aaron after he hit 755: Mike Bascik Sr.[/quote]

    There is a difference between coincidence and karma.[/quote]

    More coincidence than karma, the right fielder for the Halos when Hank hit 755 was Bobby Bonds (even though it was hit to left).

    Playing left for the Dodgers when Aaron hit 715 was Billy Buckner.

    Balls hit in Billy’s direction that elude him tend to make history…[/quote]

    Anyone find it ironic that Bonds hit 756 with a mermorial patch for Rod Beck, who just so happened to have an addiction to cocaine upon his death. Just find that odd. Don’t you?

  • Bob A | August 8, 2007 at 11:37 pm |

    Another great picture from shorpy.com. 1912 White Sox uni with some great outfield wall ads.

  • Frankie | August 8, 2007 at 11:48 pm |

    Anyone find it ironic that Bonds hit 756 with a mermorial patch for Rod Beck, who just so happened to have an addiction to cocaine upon his death. Just find that odd. Don’t you?

    Not really… I wasn’t aware that Bonds was addicted to cocaine.

  • Micah | August 9, 2007 at 12:38 am |

    That screenprint on TO’s shirt is the Air Jordan Dub Zero. Hideous shoe by the way.

  • joe | August 9, 2007 at 1:07 am |

    [quote comment=”130274″][quote comment=”130271″]In the event that no one thought to go to the Red Wings website…there’s a pdf order form for their new jerseys…….

    And they look exactly the same[/quote]
    This is encouraging, but given that the Rangers’ word mark had to be adjusted for the template, doesn’t that wheel-wing look a bit too large for the jersey?
    Note that if this is an indication of what is to come, the Red Wings will still be the only Original 6 team without a lace-up collar.[/quote]

    The hawks dont lace up. Also those arent real jerseys, the rbk logo isnt on the sleeves of the real ones. Those are at best the replicas in the picture. Who knows what will actually be in store for the real ones.

  • Andrew F. | August 9, 2007 at 2:29 am |

    http://us.i1.yimg.co...

    Glad to see that Pedro is starting off his rehab with his priorities in order! Who cares if he pitched like poo, he looked good doing it!

  • Mike Engle | August 9, 2007 at 8:30 am |

    [quote comment=”130288″][quote comment=”130274″][quote comment=”130271″]In the event that no one thought to go to the Red Wings website…there’s a pdf order form for their new jerseys…….

    And they look exactly the same[/quote]
    This is encouraging, but given that the Rangers’ word mark had to be adjusted for the template, doesn’t that wheel-wing look a bit too large for the jersey?
    Note that if this is an indication of what is to come, the Red Wings will still be the only Original 6 team without a lace-up collar.[/quote]

    The hawks dont lace up. Also those arent real jerseys, the rbk logo isnt on the sleeves of the real ones. Those are at best the replicas in the picture. Who knows what will actually be in store for the real ones.[/quote]
    I meant EVER in their history. The Blackhawks had a lace-up collar when Bill Mosienko set the record for the fastest hat trick at 21 seconds (1952).

  • Chance | August 9, 2007 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment=”130271″]In the event that no one thought to go to the Red Wings website…there’s a pdf order form for their new jerseys…….

    And they look exactly the same[/quote]
    And they’re only $130?

  • Taylor | August 9, 2007 at 4:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”129941″][quote comment=”129933″]i want some more leaked hockey jerseys[/quote]
    here and here you go. These are not real, just fan-art.[/quote]

    The first jersey is actually pretty good if you ask me. But then again, anything looks good compared to my hometown Atl. Thrashers unis!

  • Todd | August 9, 2007 at 6:38 pm |

    Black unis are very cliche, but for whatever it is worth, this Portland State Grad thinks the uniform is an improvement over the green and black. Not perfect, but an improvement.

  • Jason | August 10, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”129956″][quote comment=”129923″]What would Glanville do if he got hired somewhere that doesn’t have black in the color scheme? Oh wait, it seems like any team can add black to there pallet without it being an official color. The pros don’t seem to do this much but in college you see it all the time especially in basketball which it has now spread to baseball. If it’s an official color then fine use it if not don’t. Using silver for football pants even though it’s not a school color is a tradition for many colleges, those institutions need to add that to there official pallet, prime example my school UGA.

    Glanville influenced the Falcons to go with black helmet but Blank needs to do a total redesign for next year to signal a new era, if nothing else go with red helmets. I think adding a little silver (or gray what little they have now on the logo look gray to me) back in would be a good idea too. Has it been 5 years yet with new design for this to even be a possibility?

    One clarification don’t let that paragraph fool you I’m not a Falcons fan rather a long time die hard Cowboys fan. Whom I’d love to see go with a standard pallet of sliver-green metallic & royal blue maybe keep the navy but get one silver & stick with it.[/quote]

    He did coach a team w/ no black in the uniform…the Houston Oilers. He wore black all the time (and the rediculous black duster…wonder what Reebok would say about that these days) on the sideline…but didn’t add black to the team.[/quote]

    I think the reason he didn’t add black to the Oilers uniforms was because Bud Adams, the owner, was is as much a Columbia Blue fanatic as Glanville is a black fanatic. Owner trumps coach especially since he wasn’t a proven commodity at that time. Hey, come to think of it he’s still not a proven commodity. Unless you’d say he proven to be a mediocre head coach.