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…But I Know What I Like

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If you’re a regular reader of this site, I’d say there’s a pretty good chance that you used to doodle uniforms or at least logos in the margins of your notebooks back in junior high. No shame in that — I did it myself, and so did uniform designer Todd Radom. But when it comes to uniform doodling, we’ve all got nothing on Marty Hick.

I met Marty a few weeks ago at the Uni Watch party in St. Louis (he’s the one who wore the super-cool St. Louis Cardinals necktie). At one point during the party he went outside and then returned carrying a cardboard box. When I asked him what was in it, he was all noncommittal. “I’m can’t show you yet,” he said. “I need a few more drinks before I’ll be ready for that.”

A few beers later, I asked Marty if he was ready to give me a peek at his stash. Still a bit wary but now clearly eager to share, he hauled the box onto the bar, reached in, and pulled out a big stack of notebooks — notebooks filled with amazingly detailed uniform drawings.

I flipped through the notebooks as Marty explained that he’d been making these drawings for years. But I soon stopped listening to him, because I was too busy engrossing myself in the drawings, which were incredible. There were stripe patterns and studies, comparative pants concepts, logo redesigns, Olympics uniforms, baseball sleeve treatments, all-star designs, NFL sock comparisons, some bizarre corporate brand uniforms, and more. It was a mother lode of obsessive-compulsive uniform illustrations.

The most interesting artistic trope in Marty’s drawings was his habit of combining home and road designs in the same drawing (additional examples here, here, here, and here), which created a weird In-Betweener or Lokai and Bele effect. When I asked him why he did that, he replied, “To save ink.”

By this time Marty’s initial reticence had given way to exuberant self-promotion. “Look, look at that!” he said as I flipped the pages. “Look, a logo on the Bears’ pants! Who else would think of doing that? Nobody! Look at that Islanders concept! Look at that Rams redesign! And look, here’s where I reconfigured the American and National Leagues in three divisions each — years before they actually did it themselves!” Somehow this all came off as charming instead of egotistical. I mean, really, how could you not be charmed by this? (You can see even more of Marty’s work in this slideshow.)

It was pretty obvious to me that Marty didn’t create all this artwork because he wanted to; like all creative visionaries, he did it because he had to. So I got his address and then, when I got back to my hotel room, I immediately ordered him a copy of Blackstock’s Collections, the book of obsessive “visual lists” that I reviewed a few weeks back. In the spirit of Blackstock’s work, as well as his own, I hope he’s doodled a few drawings in the margins.

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Membership News: Lots of cool new stuff in the membership gallery, with lots more to come in the next few days. Remember, you can click on your card’s icon to explain what the design is based on and why you chose it, and you can also leave comments for anyone else’s design.

Meanwhile, every enrollee should now be listed on the membership roster. If you’ve signed up and don’t see your name listed, please let me know and I’ll make things right.

I’m happy to report, incidentally, that we’ll soon have a very special raffle — one that will make all you glad to have those three bonus raffle entries that come with membership. Details soon.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Oklahoma will have player names on the jerseys this season. … Reprinted from Friday’s comments: Although not truly uni- or logo-related, this is really, really cool. Details here. … Dennis Hurley has created a gallery of Cork City FC uniforms. … Brandon Roberts notes that Kentucky appears to have a new white helmet stripe this season. … College hockey report from Tom Konecny, who writes: “Though no official announcement from the school, the top two pics on this page appear to be the new Bowling Green State University hockey jerseys.” … The Bengals have once again published their jersey schedule for the upcoming season. Why can’t every NFL team do this? … In a vaguely related item, Chris Gilligan reports that this year’s N.Y. Giants season tickets show the team’s uniform history (additional images here and here). … Despite what you might think, I had nothing to do with this video (but Vincent Barone says his sister did). … Remember how we all noted some inconsistencies in the shoulder lightning bolts on the Chargers’ new uniforms when the design was unveiled a few months back? Check out this commercial, which shows the new uniforms in action. Not only do the bolt styles vary from player to player, but compare this view of LT to this view — and it’s the same play! … The Lakers have a new 60th-anniversary logo. … The Nats and Cards wore Negro League throwbacks on Friday. Interestingly, the Nats had throwback caps but cheated by using their navy road helmets, even though it was a home game. … Justin McGrail notes that the Celtics are plastering Kevin Garnett’s image everywhere in a numberless jersey. … Chaminade University is sponsoring a logo design contest (with thanks to Chris Chaussee). … “The Ottawa 67s of the Ontario Hockey League wore special jerseys during pregame warm-ups to honor longtime coach Brian Kilrea’s 2000th back in February,” writes Joe Dunman. “Luckily they didn’t all wear the jerseys during the actual game — the play-by-play guy would have gone crazy.” … Several readers have asked about this photo, which recently ran in SI and appears to show Hank Aaron wearing a two-digit number starting with 5. Now, the Hammer actually wore No. 5 when he first came up, later switching to his familiar 44, but I can’t find any info about him wearing fifty-something (or fifty-anything). Joe Hilseberg notes that neither of Aaron’s minor league teams was called the Braves, so that rules out that possibility. Anyone know more about this? … Might just be the lighting, but it looks like the Wizards are changing their trim from bronze to gold. … Willie Randolph added a “B.R.” inscription to his cap the other day, in memory of Bill Robinson. … Interesting NHL logo-o-rama site here. … Syracuse has unveiled a helmet revision, and if you squint a bit and break out the magnifying glass, you might just notice it. … Matthew Hackethal recently came across some old 1986 Topps stickers that show some of the Braves wearing really shitty-looking mesh-backed caps. “The photos appear to have been taken during batting practice (Dale Murphy’s shows him leaning against a batting cage),” he writes. “I’m wondering if this was just a spring training thing or did it continue in to the regular season.” Anyone..? … This always cracks me up. … In fact, it cracks me up so much I’ll show another example. … Not quite uni-related, but an interesting superstition. … Chosen logos (nice find by Matthew Scher). … The batting helmet from Bonds’s 755th homer is heading for the Hall of Fame (thanks, Vince). … June Jones apparently has some unorthodox coaching methods (thanks again, Vince). … Here’s something you don’t often see: an NHL/NASCAR connection (the trifecta for Vince). … Someone has tracked Florida State’s record by uniform combo (with thanks to Bob Jordan). … Rutgers has apparently tweaked their football jersey (compare to last year’s version). … The following item was buried in yesterday’s column by Newsday‘s Ken Davidoff: “The commissioner’s office issued a memo last month to remind teams that proper uniform tops are to be worn at all times. That means that managers such as Boston’s Terry Francona can no longer go with the sweatshirt look.” I’ll believe that when I see it. … We’ve seen the Steelers’ 75th-anniversary logo before, but here’s how it looks on their jersey. … Several readers reported seeing a green dot on the back of many players’ helmets during yesterday’s Steelers/Saints Hall of Fame Game. Haven’t been able to find a photo. Anyone know more about this? … This site got an insane number of hits over the weekend, and I can’t figure out why. Not complaining, mind you — just mystified. Links from my Friday ESPN column account for some of the increased activity, but there’s gotta be more to it than that. Did some big mainstream site link over here without my being aware of it?

 

161 comments to …But I Know What I Like

  • MH | August 6, 2007 at 8:48 am |

    Syracuse has unveiled a helmet revision, and if you squint a bit and break out the magnifying glass, you might just notice it.

    OK, I give. What’s the revision?

  • Kevin | August 6, 2007 at 8:51 am |

    I was in Milwaukee at the Brewers/Phils game on Friday night in the nosebleed seats right behind home plate with my Uni Watch shirt on. As we were leaing the game a lady commented she liked my Uni Watch shirt. I felt an instant bond with the lady.

  • SRD | August 6, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    As cool as that countries of baseball map is, I’m shocked that you’d post something so boldly emblazoned with a swoosh.

  • Chip B | August 6, 2007 at 8:56 am |

    I noticed that the Bengals are wearing their orange jerseys 3 times this season. Did the NFL relax their rule on wearing alternate jerseys only twice a year?

  • Matthew | August 6, 2007 at 8:56 am |

    Interesting to see the Bengals final game of the season in Miami is a day game, but the Bengals will apparently be wearing white.

    Doesn’t Miami always wear white at home during the day?

  • Matthew | August 6, 2007 at 8:57 am |

    [quote comment=”129124″]I noticed that the Bengals are wearing their orange jerseys 3 times this season. Did the NFL relax their rule on wearing alternate jerseys only twice a year?[/quote]

    3 has always been the rule as far as I know.

  • Rich | August 6, 2007 at 9:01 am |

    Matthew Hackethal recently came across some old 1986 Topps stickers that show some of the Braves wearing really shitty-looking mesh-backed caps. “The photos appear to have been taken during batting practice (Dale Murphy’s shows him leaning against a batting cage),” he writes. “I’m wondering if this was just a spring training thing or did it continue in to the regular season.” Anyone..?

    I don’t have anything definitive on this. But the Astros also wore mesh caps in spring training in the 1980s, but they never wore theirs in the regular season. And I used to watch the Braves on TBS all the time, and I never remember them wearing mesh caps in a regular-season game.

  • Mike | August 6, 2007 at 9:13 am |

    I forget who it was who asked about this, but I was in Morgantown, WV this weekend and found out The Book Exchange sells the WVU baseball team authentic hats. All hats are sized and run a little small….whomever was looking for one, that is the place to contact.

  • J.B. | August 6, 2007 at 9:16 am |

    Kentucky appears to have a new white helmet stripe this season.

    Kentucky will again be wearing solid blue helmets without stripping this season. The example abaove is a brand new helemt made by Schutt and the white stripe is removed prior to the first game.

    Also interesting to note that all 12 schools in the SEC will be wearing the 75th anniversary logo on their jerseys this season.

    http://www.ukathleti...

  • Michael Churchill | August 6, 2007 at 9:18 am |

    … Chosen logos (nice find by Matthew Scher). …

    One of these took my eye. One of Paul’s fellow ESPN Page 2 columnists, Tuesday Morning Quarterback, has taken to calling the Eagles the Philadelphia Nesharim, which is hebrew for Eagles, because theirs is the only logo (amongst NFL teams) which faces to the left, not the right.

    Now, the hebrew version turns it around to face the same way!

  • Joey Guns | August 6, 2007 at 9:20 am |

    I guess the Mets got the MLB memo, because Rick Peterson actually had a jersey on yesterday! It was amazing…….

  • Chris | August 6, 2007 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment=”129126″][quote comment=”129124″]I noticed that the Bengals are wearing their orange jerseys 3 times this season. Did the NFL relax their rule on wearing alternate jerseys only twice a year?[/quote]

    3 has always been the rule as far as I know.[/quote]

    One of those 3 times is in the preseason. The regular season rule is still 2

  • Christopher | August 6, 2007 at 9:20 am |

    So what are those plastic things on the NFL helmets? Shower caps? Something to protect the helmet paint?

    I’m confused.

  • Dane | August 6, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    An excerpt from Peter King’s column on SI.com today:

    I think the NFL has more important things to do than to send memos like the one dispatched to the Packers, dated Aug. 2, on the oh-so-important issue of “Unauthorized Use of Improper Tape Color.” Seems the Packers were fined last year for wearing green tape spatting their shoes, and they’re only supposed to wear opaque tape, or the tape-color of their shoes. “That’s not the worst fine by the league,” cornerback Al Harris told me. “The worst is when you’re not showing the exact amount of white you’re supposed to be showing on your socks. If it’s just a little more, or a little less, you get fined. Those are the things that drive us crazy.”

  • Dwight | August 6, 2007 at 9:25 am |

    Very uni-related “how to” in the Houston Chronicle on jersey revision:

    http://chron.com/dis...

  • Flip | August 6, 2007 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment=”129139″]Kentucky appears to have a new white helmet stripe this season.

    Kentucky will again be wearing solid blue helmets without stripping this season. The example abaove is a brand new helemt made by Schutt and the white stripe is removed prior to the first game.

    Also interesting to note that all 12 schools in the SEC will be wearing the 75th anniversary logo on their jerseys this season.

    http://www.ukathleti...[/quote]

    That’s too bad. The stripe looks good.

  • scott | August 6, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    The Rochester Red Wings apparently wore mesh caps in their games when Cal Ripken played there in the 1980s.

  • Shaftman | August 6, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    [quote comment=”129143″]I guess the Mets got the MLB memo, because Rick Peterson actually had a jersey on yesterday!

    It was amazing…….[/quote]

    Peterson usually has a jersey on underneath his jacket.

  • Joe Drennan | August 6, 2007 at 9:30 am |

    [quote comment=”129145″]So what are those plastic things on the NFL helmets? Shower caps? Something to protect the helmet paint?

    I’m confused.[/quote]
    I know some times they’re used to indicate an injured player, similar to the red jersey. As a hoceky coach I know there has been a time or two that we’ve wanted one or two of those colored beanies for players coming back from concussion simply because they can go full speed in practice, but no contact. Simply put, they’re there to easily identify players who can/can’t do different things for whatever reasons.

  • Steve | August 6, 2007 at 9:38 am |

    Several readers reported seeing a green dot on the back of many players’ helmets during yesterday’s Steelers/Saints Hall of Fame Game. Haven’t been able to find a photo. Anyone know more about this?

    I noticed this myself last night. From what I could tell, it was only the QB’s that had the green dot on their helmet. Something to do with the QB’s helmets being the only ones with radios in them?

  • BigMatt | August 6, 2007 at 9:43 am |

    The revision of the Syracuse helmets is that last year the players had their uniform number on their helmets, and this year it will be a block “S”.

  • Liam | August 6, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    from Peter King’s latest column on SI.com (apologies if someone’s already mentioned it):

    I think the NFL has more important things to do than to send memos like the one dispatched to the Packers, dated Aug. 2, on the oh-so-important issue of “Unauthorized Use of Improper Tape Color.” Seems the Packers were fined last year for wearing green tape spatting their shoes, and they’re only supposed to wear opaque tape, or the tape-color of their shoes. “That’s not the worst fine by the league,” cornerback Al Harris told me. “The worst is when you’re not showing the exact amount of white you’re supposed to be showing on your socks. If it’s just a little more, or a little less, you get fined. Those are the things that drive us crazy.”

  • KT | August 6, 2007 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”129143″]I guess the Mets got the MLB memo, because Rick Peterson actually had a jersey on yesterday!

    It was amazing…….[/quote]

    As did Larry Rothschild on Friday. I mentioned to my girlfriend that something had to be up, because he ALWAYS wears the blue long-sleeve thing, never his #10.

  • Glenn | August 6, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”129148″]An excerpt from Peter King’s column on SI.com today:

    I think the NFL has more important things to do than to send memos like the one dispatched to the Packers, dated Aug. 2, on the oh-so-important issue of “Unauthorized Use of Improper Tape Color.” Seems the Packers were fined last year for wearing green tape spatting their shoes, and they’re only supposed to wear opaque tape, or the tape-color of their shoes. “That’s not the worst fine by the league,” cornerback Al Harris told me. “The worst is when you’re not showing the exact amount of white you’re supposed to be showing on your socks. If it’s just a little more, or a little less, you get fined. Those are the things that drive us crazy.”[/quote]

    From King’s article:
    “…he’s telling me how he’s got something wild planned for the first game of the season when he scores, the Monday night opener against Baltimore.”

    Music to my ears.

  • Joe Drennan | August 6, 2007 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”129171″][quote comment=”129143″]I guess the Mets got the MLB memo, because Rick Peterson actually had a jersey on yesterday!

    It was amazing…….[/quote]

    As did Larry Rothschild on Friday. I mentioned to my girlfriend that something had to be up, because he ALWAYS wears the blue long-sleeve thing, never his #10.[/quote]
    Rothschild never wears #10 as it is retired for the great Ron Santo. Rothschild wears #40 according to Cubs.com

  • Zach Smith | August 6, 2007 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”129156″][quote comment=”129145″]So what are those plastic things on the NFL helmets? Shower caps? Something to protect the helmet paint?

    I’m confused.[/quote]
    I know some times they’re used to indicate an injured player, similar to the red jersey. As a hoceky coach I know there has been a time or two that we’ve wanted one or two of those colored beanies for players coming back from concussion simply because they can go full speed in practice, but no contact. Simply put, they’re there to easily identify players who can/can’t do different things for whatever reasons.[/quote]

    When we used them in high school, and they appear to have the same use here, they are used for special teams. During camp offensive and defensive players where different colored uniforms, as you all know, but when they do special teams its often a mix of people from both sides of the ball, so the helmet caps are an easy way for people to quickly take on a special teams identity.

    So for example, if you’re doing a live punting drill, the kicking team might be a mix of offensive and defensive players, as is the returning team, but by putting the caps on the returning team people can tell who is on which side.

    Also, they are not made of plastic but rather a kind of stretchy fabric with an elastic band at the bottom

  • Dave in Maine | August 6, 2007 at 11:30 am |

    Regarding the Hebrew NFL logos:

    The most interesting thing is that there is no hard “Ch” sound in Hebrew, so Hebrew transliterations of these usually approximates it with a “Tz,” the closest sound available in Hebrew.

    So for all of the teams with “Ch” sounds, the Hebrew letter Tzadik is substituted. So the actual phonetic pronunciation of Chiefs (according to that logo) is “Tziefs” and Chargers is written “Tzyargers.” The soft “Ch” in Chicago is written out as “Sheecago”

    There is also no “W” sound in Hebrew, so these all become “V” sounds, and there is no “J” so a “G” is substituted.

    My favorites of all of these are the ones with the properly styleized script fonts: the Patriots logo looks great and the “SF” in Hebrew is killer.

  • Alex B | August 6, 2007 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”129125″]Interesting to see the Bengals final game of the season in Miami is a day game, but the Bengals will apparently be wearing white.

    Doesn’t Miami always wear white at home during the day?[/quote]

    They most certainly do. I would very surprised to see the Dolphins wearing their aqua jerseys during a day game. Then again they could just as easily wear the orange alternates – which would be a dumb move considering they’re playing the Bengals. I thing the website just put in white by default since that’s what they usually wear on the road.

  • Paul Lukas | August 6, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    In case anyone is wondering: Yes, the site is behaving very sluggishly today. The server is working, but it’s working slllooooooowwwwwwly. And if you think this is frustrating, imagine how I feel….

    We’re on it, our hosting company is on it, etc. Given what happened last week, and now this, we may change hosting companies. Thanks for your patience.

  • Chance | August 6, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”129148″]An excerpt from Peter King’s column on SI.com today:

    I think the NFL has more important things to do than to send memos like the one dispatched to the Packers, dated Aug. 2, on the oh-so-important issue of “Unauthorized Use of Improper Tape Color.” Seems the Packers were fined last year for wearing green tape spatting their shoes, and they’re only supposed to wear opaque tape, or the tape-color of their shoes. “That’s not the worst fine by the league,” cornerback Al Harris told me. “The worst is when you’re not showing the exact amount of white you’re supposed to be showing on your socks. If it’s just a little more, or a little less, you get fined. Those are the things that drive us crazy.”[/quote]
    I know that drives the players nuts, but I still prefer the NFL’s uniform policy to MLB’s non-existent enforcement….

  • CJ | August 6, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”129184″]Regarding the Hebrew NFL logos:

    The most interesting thing is that there is no hard “Ch” sound in Hebrew, so Hebrew transliterations of these usually approximates it with a “Tz,” the closest sound available in Hebrew.

    So for all of the teams with “Ch” sounds, the Hebrew letter Tzadik is substituted. So the actual phonetic pronunciation of Chiefs (according to that logo) is “Tziefs” and Chargers is written “Tzyargers.” The soft “Ch” in Chicago is written out as “Sheecago”

    There is also no “W” sound in Hebrew, so these all become “V” sounds, and there is no “J” so a “G” is substituted.

    My favorites of all of these are the ones with the properly styleized script fonts: the Patriots logo looks great and the “SF” in Hebrew is killer.[/quote]

    The only thing wrong was the Eagles: normally the Eagle’s beak is to the left, making it read right to left; the only Hebrew logo.

    Yes, that was weak.

  • Taylor | August 6, 2007 at 1:27 pm |

    The Steelers were wearing white shoes in the HOF games vs. the Saints. Too bad, cause I really like the black shoe look for sports. But they didn’t contact me to ask me for my opinion. :)

  • Evan | August 6, 2007 at 1:33 pm |

    I noticed that the Bengals are wearing their orange jerseys 3 times this season. Did the NFL relax their rule on wearing alternate jerseys only twice a year?

    They are only wearning them twice during the regular season. The third time they wear it is in the preseason.

  • bj in gainesville | August 6, 2007 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”129125″]Interesting to see the Bengals final game of the season in Miami is a day game, but the Bengals will apparently be wearing white.

    Doesn’t Miami always wear white at home during the day?[/quote]

    Yes, the Phins do wear white at home. The Bengals had better bring their black jerseys with them, too.

  • Al | August 6, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    Regarding the mesh hats, i do remember back in the early to mid eighties seeing players during spring training wearing adjustable caps, some of which were of the mesh and foam variety seen in those braves pics. in the frugal 80s, they figured it was unnecesary to give all players fitted hats. here are some i found of the astros … you need to look close, but you can tell they are wearing adjustable caps.

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • shambells | August 6, 2007 at 1:41 pm |

    stirrup alert and nesh hat comment

    Luis Ayala of the nats had some nice stirrups on yesterday

    I have a few of those mesh hats from the 80’s.
    They were only worn for spring training.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | August 6, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”129208″]Regarding the mesh hats, i do remember back in the early to mid eighties seeing players during spring training wearing adjustable caps, some of which were of the mesh and foam variety seen in those braves pics. in the frugal 80s, they figured it was unnecesary to give all players fitted hats. here are some i found of the astros … you need to look close, but you can tell they are wearing adjustable caps.

    http://www.flickr.co...

    even more is the fact that the trainer is wearing game pants cut like slacks, which was commonplace for alternate staff to wear in that era.

  • tim | August 6, 2007 at 1:46 pm |

    Does it bother anybody that in that commercial showing off the chargers new jerseys that the Bears are wearing replica jerseys and not authentice jerseys. All their sleeves are just hangin down like a big shirt..it bothers me

  • zip | August 6, 2007 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”129211″][quote comment=”129208″]Regarding the mesh hats, i do remember back in the early to mid eighties seeing players during spring training wearing adjustable caps, some of which were of the mesh and foam variety seen in those braves pics. in the frugal 80s, they figured it was unnecesary to give all players fitted hats. here are some i found of the astros … you need to look close, but you can tell they are wearing adjustable caps.

    http://www.flickr.co...

    even more is the fact that the trainer is wearing game pants cut like slacks, which was commonplace for alternate staff to wear in that era.[/quote]

    What really jumps out is that they all know how to wear their pants.

  • Christopher | August 6, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”129169″]from Peter King’s latest column on SI.com (apologies if someone’s already mentioned it):

    I think the NFL has more important things to do than to send memos like the one dispatched to the Packers, dated Aug. 2, on the oh-so-important issue of “Unauthorized Use of Improper Tape Color.” Seems the Packers were fined last year for wearing green tape spatting their shoes, and they’re only supposed to wear opaque tape, or the tape-color of their shoes. “That’s not the worst fine by the league,” cornerback Al Harris told me. “The worst is when you’re not showing the exact amount of white you’re supposed to be showing on your socks. If it’s just a little more, or a little less, you get fined. Those are the things that drive us crazy.”[/quote]

    I really dispise this attitude. The NFL (and many orgnizations, including government) have many people working for them and can multi-task just fine.

    Its not like the guys handling the Mike Vick ordeal are stopping what they’re doing to police tape color.

    No, they hired separate people to do that!

  • Mike Engle | August 6, 2007 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”129122″]I was in Milwaukee at the Brewers/Phils game on Friday night in the nosebleed seats right behind home plate with my Uni Watch shirt on. As we were leaing the game a lady commented she liked my Uni Watch shirt. I felt an instant bond with the lady.[/quote]
    Did she merely like the shirt or did she “Get It(tm)?”

  • RaoulDuke | August 6, 2007 at 2:02 pm |

    On this past Friday Juan Encarnacion and relief pitcher Randy Flores wore the Cards regular striped socks while everone else wore solid red. It was nice to see everybody on the team showing socks (even if they were a lil mismatched). No screencaps maybe somebody whos less of a luditte can find some.

  • RaoulDuke | August 6, 2007 at 2:03 pm |

    On this past Friday Juan Encarnacion and relief pitcher Randy Flores wore the Cards regular striped socks while everone else wore solid red. It was nice to see everybody on the team showing socks (even if they were a lil mismatched). No screencaps maybe somebody whos less of a luddite can find some.

  • Nicole | August 6, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”129122″]I was in Milwaukee at the Brewers/Phils game on Friday night in the nosebleed seats right behind home plate with my Uni Watch shirt on. As we were leaing the game a lady commented she liked my Uni Watch shirt. I felt an instant bond with the lady.[/quote]

    OOH OOH, It was me! What’s great is I had gotten my shirt in the mail that day and didn’t wear it because it’s 3/4 sleeves and it was steamy!!!

  • Scott | August 6, 2007 at 2:16 pm |

    Regarding Hank –

    If that second character is a number, it’s pretty clearly a six, but if I squint at it enough the visible part kind of suggests the top of a spear. Or maybe I’m still drunk from the weekend. Any other single-digit Braves unis from that era to compare to?

  • Nicole | August 6, 2007 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”129215″][quote comment=”129122″]I was in Milwaukee at the Brewers/Phils game on Friday night in the nosebleed seats right behind home plate with my Uni Watch shirt on. As we were leaing the game a lady commented she liked my Uni Watch shirt. I felt an instant bond with the lady.[/quote]
    Did she merely like the shirt or did she “Get It(tm)?”[/quote]

    And absolutely I get it!!! I was with my boyfriend’s family and everyone was filing out, or I’d have talked more!

  • Purple Brigade | August 6, 2007 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”129223″]Regarding Hank –

    If that second character is a number, it’s pretty clearly a six, but if I squint at it enough the visible part kind of suggests the top of a spear. Or maybe I’m still drunk from the weekend. Any other single-digit Braves unis from that era to compare to?[/quote]

    It’s definately a number. You can tell by the way the shirt wrinkles between the numbers.

  • Mike | August 6, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”129210″]stirrup alert and nesh hat comment

    Luis Ayala of the nats had some nice stirrups on yesterday

    I have a few of those mesh hats from the 80’s.
    They were only worn for spring training.[/quote]

    So was Robert Fick for the Nats. Real stirrups too…

  • Dan | August 6, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    As far as the helmet dots on the players…I noticed the same in the Redskins/Ravens scrimmage. Kyle Boller and Troy Smith both had the same dot. (I don’t have an image of that.)

    MASN didn’t get a good enough view of the SKins QBs…so I don’t know if they had it as well.

  • Joe Morano | August 6, 2007 at 2:32 pm |

    On SU athletic website – a big navy block “S” on both sides, actually a little big but not bad.

    Never liked the “no logo” look on the orange helmet as it was too generic, warmed up to the helmet number last 2 years, but still didnt quite have that Floyd Little, Larry Csonka NCAA style numeral look. Check it out. Also has a NY on the back as well, a little lame, but an attempt at reminding people that SU is NY State’s only Major college f-ball team. Helmet will look a lot better if we start winning again……….

    Joe M./SU’85

  • matt1977 | August 6, 2007 at 2:43 pm |

    Heard something kinda interesting while watching the Indians pregame show before Sunday’s game. Jim Donovan, The Indians TV play-by-play guy who also covers the Browns, was interviewing pitcher Aaron Laffey about making his MLB debut on Saturday. They were discussing if and when Laffey knew he was going to get the call up and Donovan responded by saying that he knew after visiting Browns training camp earlier in the week and saw that they were preparing his jersey. Interesting that the Indians had his jersey stitched up at the Browns complex…Anyone have any insight into this?

  • Tim | August 6, 2007 at 2:43 pm |

    courtesy of profootballtalk.com

    GREEN DOT HELPS REF TRACK WHO HAS AUDIO

    One of the new things we noticed during last night’s Hall of Fame game was that each of the quarterbacks had affixed to the backs of their helmets a small green dot.

    NFL spokesman Greg Aiello tells us that the sticker is a new device being used to help officials confirm that only one player on offense is wearing a helmet with a radio receiver from the coaching staff.

    So, if a team plans to put two quarterbacks on the field at the same time, one of them must change helmets before entering the game.

    It’s uncommon but not unheard of for two quarterbacks to be on the field at the same time. Last year, the Falcons ran a few plays with both Matt Schaub and Michael Vick on the field. In 1995, Kordell Stewart regularly entered the game as a receiver or as a running back.

    During the offseason, there was some discussion about allowing one player on defense to have a radio in his helmet as well, but nothing to date has come of it. Also, there is a movement to place a receiver in the helmet of each offensive player, so that they can all hear the signals being called out by the quarterback.

  • Matteo | August 6, 2007 at 2:48 pm |

    RE: Bengals Jersey Sched

    If you look closely, you can see that if the helmet is on the right side, it’s the right side of the actual helmet, and vice-versa. Look at the Squealers images.

    WHO DEY

  • Sam Mc | August 6, 2007 at 2:48 pm |

    Flyers new sweater?

    I found this on ebay, looks a bit photoshopped to me though.

  • Shaftman | August 6, 2007 at 2:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”129235″]Flyers new sweater?

    I found this on ebay, looks a bit photoshopped to me though.[/quote]

    It has the wong hemline. All of the new ones have that silly curved hemline, even though they are no longer supposed to be tucked in.

  • ForestGlade | August 6, 2007 at 2:53 pm |

    Michigan switched their football uniforms from Nike to Adidas, but at Media Day they were still wearing the swoosh

  • BCrisp | August 6, 2007 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”129237″]Michigan switched their football uniforms from Nike to Adidas, but at Media Day they were still wearing the swoosh[/quote]
    This happened with A&M to when they made the switch. It all depends on when the Nike contract ends and the Adidas contract begins. It also has to do with Adidas producing the new uniforms. If I remember correctly, Michigan hasn’t been with Adidas long.

  • Purple Brigade | August 6, 2007 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”129226″][quote comment=”129223″]Regarding Hank –

    If that second character is a number, it’s pretty clearly a six, but if I squint at it enough the visible part kind of suggests the top of a spear. Or maybe I’m still drunk from the weekend. Any other single-digit Braves unis from that era to compare to?[/quote]

    It’s definately a number. You can tell by the way the shirt wrinkles between the numbers.[/quote]

    Hank Aaron Uni-Cameo.

  • Chad G | August 6, 2007 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”129237″]Michigan switched their football uniforms from Nike to Adidas, but at Media Day they were still wearing the swoosh[/quote]

    The Adidas contract doesn’t start till the ’08 season.

  • Denis Hurley | August 6, 2007 at 3:12 pm |

    What do people think of the Cork City kits gallery I created? (mentioned in the ticker?)

  • Dan King | August 6, 2007 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”129238″][quote comment=”129237″]Michigan switched their football uniforms from Nike to Adidas, but at Media Day they were still wearing the swoosh[/quote]
    This happened with A&M to when they made the switch. It all depends on when the Nike contract ends and the Adidas contract begins. It also has to do with Adidas producing the new uniforms. If I remember correctly, Michigan hasn’t been with Adidas long.[/quote]
    i might be wrong, but i don’t think the adidas contract starts until ’08. if its on january 1, could we see a team play with two different manufacturers in the same season?

  • ScottyJ in WV | August 6, 2007 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”129137″]I forget who it was who asked about this, but I was in Morgantown, WV this weekend and found out The Book Exchange sells the WVU baseball team authentic hats. All hats are sized and run a little small….whomever was looking for one, that is the place to contact.[/quote]

    It was me and thanks for the info, Mike!!

  • ScottyJ in WV | August 6, 2007 at 3:16 pm |
  • edr | August 6, 2007 at 3:18 pm |

    can some people please talk about how awful the new syracuse helmet is. the “block s” is as generic as a helmet can get. the plain orange helmet we used to have was more identifiable with syracuse than the new helmet can ever be. stanford and nc st already use an “s” on their helmets. and michigan st used to do the same. please help me in getting the word out about an awful helmet. thanks in advance

  • Dean | August 6, 2007 at 3:20 pm |

    It says, “The 2007 Orange football helmet features an “NY” on the left side of the stripe and the University’s Block S on each side.” but when you look at the third picture its on the right side of the stripe, and it looks like it is covering up another sticker.

    http://www.suathleti...

  • Lou | August 6, 2007 at 3:20 pm |

    This SI Cover of Pete Rose is what comes to mind whenever the topic of MLB players wearing mesh hats is mentioned!

    http://dynamic.si.cn...

  • ryan | August 6, 2007 at 3:31 pm |

    does anyone else find it funny that the nike commercial with LT has to show the reebok logo on the official NFL jerseys?

  • Joe H | August 6, 2007 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”129239″][quote comment=”129226″][quote comment=”129223″]Regarding Hank –

    If that second character is a number, it’s pretty clearly a six, but if I squint at it enough the visible part kind of suggests the top of a spear. Or maybe I’m still drunk from the weekend. Any other single-digit Braves unis from that era to compare to?[/quote]

    It’s definately a number. You can tell by the way the shirt wrinkles between the numbers.[/quote]

    Hank Aaron Uni-Cameo.[/quote]

    I think I’ve figured it out! Doing some research I found that the Jacksonville Tars (Aaron’s minor league team) changed it’s name to the Jacksonville Braves in 1953 coinciding with his arrival. Details here.

    Although I can’t find any reference of his uni number, he is clearly in a Braves uni in this pic from 1953 taken in Jacksonville. Thus making it possible that he could have worn a 2 digit number that starts with 5.

  • frank | August 6, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    Nice to see Marty’s uniform designs. I’m not going to lie and say it was the best thing ever, but one, nice to see I wasn’t the only ponding division realignment in baseball and two, if I ever kept any of the stuff I doodled, I’m probably be asking myself “What was I thinking!?”.

    Finally and mostly it does take courage to show that kind of stuff, so in all kudos to Marty for the look into his work, and hope the creativity still exists in him.

  • Randy Miller | August 6, 2007 at 3:40 pm |

    Marty’s uniform designs were fascinating and, yes, did remihd me of dolng the same thing, but far less skillfully, when I was young.

    In fact, I STILL doodle number fonts on those occasions where doodling still comes into play…but I wish I did as well as Marty does.

  • Joe H | August 6, 2007 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”129251″][quote comment=”129239″][quote comment=”129226″][quote comment=”129223″]Regarding Hank –

    If that second character is a number, it’s pretty clearly a six, but if I squint at it enough the visible part kind of suggests the top of a spear. Or maybe I’m still drunk from the weekend. Any other single-digit Braves unis from that era to compare to?[/quote]

    It’s definately a number. You can tell by the way the shirt wrinkles between the numbers.[/quote]

    Hank Aaron Uni-Cameo.[/quote]

    I think I’ve figured it out! Doing some research I found that the Jacksonville Tars (Aaron’s minor league team) changed it’s name to the Jacksonville Braves in 1953 coinciding with his arrival. Details here.

    Although I can’t find any reference of his uni number, he is clearly in a Braves uni in this pic from 1953 taken in Jacksonville. Thus making it possible that he could have worn a 2 digit number that starts with 5.[/quote]

    The only thing that boggles me is that the helmet has a “M” on it….I emailed the Jax Historical Society to see if they can help!!

  • interlockingtc | August 6, 2007 at 3:44 pm |

    Marty Hick is us and we are Marty Hick.

  • Dean | August 6, 2007 at 3:52 pm |

    For all your dog owners, the Michael Vick dog chew toy. http://sports.aol.co...

  • George | August 6, 2007 at 3:52 pm |

    First, my alma mater unofficially changes their mascot to the Pitt Wet Otters. And now someone had the nerve to be those atrocious uniforms on the front of this year’s football media guide.

    http://www.shoppittp...

  • Kerry | August 6, 2007 at 3:56 pm |

    I’m not really sure I like the new ‘Cuse helmets. I really liked the throwback look of the helmets with #s and THIS reminds me too much of THESE HELMETS.

  • Chad G | August 6, 2007 at 3:58 pm |

    In honor of 300 wins

  • PlaneY | August 6, 2007 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”129241″]What do people think of the Cork City kits gallery I created? (mentioned in the ticker?)[/quote]

    Denis,

    I think that is an excellent representation of their kits. I’ve always liked to see that type of ‘evolutionary’ progression because it shows the best of the past and also where the mistakes were made and how they’ve been corrected. It also fits perfectly with Paul’s mention of ‘Blackstock’s Collections’ and visual lists. Good work.

  • Mike | August 6, 2007 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”129244″]Here’s the cap on the Book Exchange’s site[/quote]

    Fantastic! It is a great hat, been wearing it all day today. It has the “old Gold” rather than the bright yellow (gold).

  • Pat | August 6, 2007 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”129235″]Flyers new sweater?

    I found this on ebay, looks a bit photoshopped to me though.[/quote]

    That’s their regular home jersey from the past few years.

  • possum | August 6, 2007 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”129254″][quote comment=”129251″][quote comment=”129239″][quote comment=”129226″][quote comment=”129223″]Regarding Hank –

    If that second character is a number, it’s pretty clearly a six, but if I squint at it enough the visible part kind of suggests the top of a spear. Or maybe I’m still drunk from the weekend. Any other single-digit Braves unis from that era to compare to?[/quote]

    It’s definately a number. You can tell by the way the shirt wrinkles between the numbers.[/quote]

    Hank Aaron Uni-Cameo.[/quote]

    I think I’ve figured it out! Doing some research I found that the Jacksonville Tars (Aaron’s minor league team) changed it’s name to the Jacksonville Braves in 1953 coinciding with his arrival. Details here.

    Although I can’t find any reference of his uni number, he is clearly in a Braves uni in this pic from 1953 taken in Jacksonville. Thus making it possible that he could have worn a 2 digit number that starts with 5.[/quote]

    The only thing that boggles me is that the helmet has a “M” on it….I emailed the Jax Historical Society to see if they can help!![/quote]
    When Jacksonville was the Tars, they were a Giants affiliate. 1953 marked Hank’s first year with the club as well as Jax’s first year as a Braves affiliate. This was also the year that they moved from Boston to Milwaukee. As for the M on the helmet, well I’m sure they shared equipment with the majors in those days. Here is the link to that site’s homepage for you minor league buffs.

  • EmpyreLounge | August 6, 2007 at 4:12 pm |

    the new ‘cuse helmets are terrible…why would they change from the numbers? has a school changed unis as much as ‘cuse has in the past couple of years?

  • johnt | August 6, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”129260″][quote comment=”129241″]What do people think of the Cork City kits gallery I created? (mentioned in the ticker?)[/quote]

    Denis,

    I think that is an excellent representation of their kits. I’ve always liked to see that type of ‘evolutionary’ progression because it shows the best of the past and also where the mistakes were made and how they’ve been corrected. It also fits perfectly with Paul’s mention of ‘Blackstock’s Collections’ and visual lists. Good work.[/quote]

    Great look at the uni history of Cork City FC Kits, but I think that Paul might like to see the history of this also
    http://www.answers.c...

  • Denis Hurley | August 6, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”129260″][quote comment=”129241″]What do people think of the Cork City kits gallery I created? (mentioned in the ticker?)[/quote]

    Denis,

    I think that is an excellent representation of their kits. I’ve always liked to see that type of ‘evolutionary’ progression because it shows the best of the past and also where the mistakes were made and how they’ve been corrected. It also fits perfectly with Paul’s mention of ‘Blackstock’s Collections’ and visual lists. Good work.[/quote]

    Cheers PlaneY, took a while to do, for a club that’s only 23 years old City have had quite a mix of designs and colours

  • Morgan Doninger | August 6, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    Let me start by saying that I loved the post on Marty Hick. It is the Marty Hicks of the world that keep life interesting.

    I do have to be a bit of a nooge though. In Marty’s rendering of the home/away New Jersey Devils jersey the white away half, (which was more than likely “home” when Marty drew it, God I hate the Bizzaro world home/away of the NHL. I digress…) anyway the half of the sweater that is white has a red shoulder in Marty’s drawing. The Devils have black shoulders both home and away.

    Having said that, I have to add keep on drawin’ Marty!

  • chris | August 6, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”129237″]Michigan switched their football uniforms from Nike to Adidas, but at Media Day they were still wearing the swoosh[/quote]

    Maybe they are switching next year. This could be the last year of the Nike contract, so they are still wearing the swoosh

  • Dwight | August 6, 2007 at 4:18 pm |

    I like the Syracuse helmet, it’s the best change they’ve made in years, not that they had set the bar very high, but still.

  • Dave A | August 6, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    John Gibbons didn’t. He was still wearing the smock yesterday. Don’t know about today.

  • tedkerwin | August 6, 2007 at 4:20 pm |

    Another story link on the Syracuse helmet change.

    I think you need more then NY on the helmet to be New York’s program. What Rutgers has proven is that the New York metro area loves a winner. If you do not win you are forgotten.

  • Jack H. | August 6, 2007 at 4:21 pm |

    If you’re a regular reader of this site, I’d say there’s a pretty good chance that you used to doodle uniforms or at least logos in the margins of your notebooks back in junior high.

    Man…I still do that in my notebooks in college….

  • Ryan | August 6, 2007 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”129235″]Flyers new sweater?

    I found this on ebay, looks a bit photoshopped to me though.[/quote]
    That’s a regular Flyers jersey from years passed, nothing more, nothing less.

  • Dave A | August 6, 2007 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”129143″]I guess the Mets got the MLB memo, because Rick Peterson actually had a jersey on yesterday!

    It was amazing…….[/quote]

    Whoops…my comment about Gibbons wearing a smock was in response to this comment. For some reason, the quote didn’t work. Seems okay now.

  • E Ro | August 6, 2007 at 4:24 pm |

    Michigan adidas merchandise won’t be in stores ’til summer of ’08 the original press release said…

    Also the Bowling Green sweaters link is broken, but i guess i don’t care unless they bring back that awful/unique brown color.

  • Matt Gajtka | August 6, 2007 at 4:26 pm |

    Anyone else think those supposed Ottawa 67’s jerseys are blatantly Photoshopped? It seems obviously pixellated.

  • Dave A | August 6, 2007 at 4:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”129169″]from Peter King’s latest column on SI.com (apologies if someone’s already mentioned it):

    I think the NFL has more important things to do than to send memos like the one dispatched to the Packers, dated Aug. 2, on the oh-so-important issue of “Unauthorized Use of Improper Tape Color.” Seems the Packers were fined last year for wearing green tape spatting their shoes, and they’re only supposed to wear opaque tape, or the tape-color of their shoes. “That’s not the worst fine by the league,” cornerback Al Harris told me. “The worst is when you’re not showing the exact amount of white you’re supposed to be showing on your socks. If it’s just a little more, or a little less, you get fined. Those are the things that drive us crazy.”[/quote]

    So does the No Fun League have an Authorized Use of Improper Tape Colour?

  • El Santo | August 6, 2007 at 4:27 pm |

    I am seriously tempted to enter that Chaminade University logo contest. I love the challenge: a team called the Silverswords that’s really a plant? I’m on it! The only problem I that I’ve got little to no experience using Adobe products outside of Photoshop Elements. I’m really more of a print-media artist. Still, it sounds like it’ll be lots of fun.

  • johnt | August 6, 2007 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”129268″][quote comment=”129260″][quote comment=”129241″]What do people think of the Cork City kits gallery I created? (mentioned in the ticker?)[/quote]

    Denis,

    I think that is an excellent representation of their kits. I’ve always liked to see that type of ‘evolutionary’ progression because it shows the best of the past and also where the mistakes were made and how they’ve been corrected. It also fits perfectly with Paul’s mention of ‘Blackstock’s Collections’ and visual lists. Good work.[/quote]

    Cheers PlaneY, took a while to do, for a club that’s only 23 years old City have had quite a mix of designs and colours[/quote]

    Denis,

    Any reason that the Cork kits migrated from Red to Green, was it to be a little different than GAA? When I think of the Peoples Republic of Cork, I see only Red. Not just because I am in Limerick mind you.

  • Dave A | August 6, 2007 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”129226″][quote comment=”129223″]Regarding Hank –

    If that second character is a number, it’s pretty clearly a six, but if I squint at it enough the visible part kind of suggests the top of a spear. Or maybe I’m still drunk from the weekend. Any other single-digit Braves unis from that era to compare to?[/quote]

    I thought it was a number as well, but it looks like a 2 to me.
    It’s definately a number. You can tell by the way the shirt wrinkles between the numbers.[/quote]

  • UW justin | August 6, 2007 at 4:35 pm |

    “And look, here’s where I reconfigured the American and National Leagues in three divisions each — years before they actually did it themselves!”

    I noticed that in this picture you have the St. Petersburg Devil Rays. And this realignment was done well before actual realignment and therefore before the Devil Rays existed. You mean you actually predicted the mascot of the Tampa Bay team?

  • UW justin | August 6, 2007 at 4:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”129285″]”And look, here’s where I reconfigured the American and National Leagues in three divisions each — years before they actually did it themselves!”

    I noticed that in this picture you have the St. Petersburg Devil Rays. And this realignment was done well before actual realignment and therefore before the Devil Rays existed. You mean you actually predicted the mascot of the Tampa Bay team?[/quote]

    Not to mention that the Rockies and Marlins are included in your list, but they only played one season before they went to three divisions in each league. So, your realignment couldn’t be YEARS before the league actually did it.

  • dpnation | August 6, 2007 at 4:43 pm |

    I don’t regularly keep up with batting practice attire, but I noticed at the game that the Braves don’t wear their BP hats. Not sure if this is a regular thing or not – I just got to the game really early this time.

    And we also managed to take a picture with the Hank statue while he was still the sole owner of the homerun record (which didn’t last too long thereafter..)

  • Luke Larson | August 6, 2007 at 4:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”129285″]”And look, here’s where I reconfigured the American and National Leagues in three divisions each — years before they actually did it themselves!”

    I noticed that in this picture you have the St. Petersburg Devil Rays. And this realignment was done well before actual realignment and therefore before the Devil Rays existed. You mean you actually predicted the mascot of the Tampa Bay team?[/quote]

    pretty impressive.

  • Rick Vaughan | August 6, 2007 at 4:48 pm |

    I think I may have some good drawings to show uniwatch from my much younger days. As I kid I had logo and uniforms designed for entire leagues of fictional baseball and football teams.

  • Brian | August 6, 2007 at 4:49 pm |

    Dont know if this wasted posted yet. Found this on nfl.com , Skins 75th anniversary jersey. I dont think they have mentioned what games they will wear it.

    http://www.nflshop.c...

  • Lauren Melton | August 6, 2007 at 4:51 pm |

    Excellent Doodles. Would love to see his own website with the doodles.

  • johnt | August 6, 2007 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”129286″][quote comment=”129285″]”And look, here’s where I reconfigured the American and National Leagues in three divisions each — years before they actually did it themselves!”

    I noticed that in this picture you have the St. Petersburg Devil Rays. And this realignment was done well before actual realignment and therefore before the Devil Rays existed. You mean you actually predicted the mascot of the Tampa Bay team?[/quote]

    Not to mention that the Rockies and Marlins are included in your list, but they only played one season before they went to three divisions in each league. So, your realignment couldn’t be YEARS before the league actually did it.[/quote]

    Also to have the Expos and Wasington (forgive the Senators) in the east

  • Mike Engle | August 6, 2007 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”129294″][quote comment=”129286″][quote comment=”129285″]”And look, here’s where I reconfigured the American and National Leagues in three divisions each — years before they actually did it themselves!”

    I noticed that in this picture you have the St. Petersburg Devil Rays. And this realignment was done well before actual realignment and therefore before the Devil Rays existed. You mean you actually predicted the mascot of the Tampa Bay team?[/quote]

    Not to mention that the Rockies and Marlins are included in your list, but they only played one season before they went to three divisions in each league. So, your realignment couldn’t be YEARS before the league actually did it.[/quote]

    Also to have the Expos and Wasington (forgive the Senators) in the east[/quote]
    Swing and a miss on the Vancouver RainMakers. They should be in Vegas, Nashville, or wherever the hell Pacman Jones may be.

  • Anthony Verna | August 6, 2007 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”129287″]I don’t regularly keep up with batting practice attire, but I noticed at the game that the Braves don’t wear their BP hats. Not sure if this is a regular thing or not – I just got to the game really early this time.

    And we also managed to take a picture with the Hank statue while he was still the sole owner of the homerun record (which didn’t last too long thereafter..)[/quote]

    At least the Braves are looking ok during batting practice. The jerseys aren’t horrible and go with the regular cap.

    (And the dpnation site is under a Creative Commons license, which gets the thumbs-up from the copyright lawyer.)

  • Denis Hurley | August 6, 2007 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”129283″][quote comment=”129268″][quote comment=”129260″][quote comment=”129241″]What do people think of the Cork City kits gallery I created? (mentioned in the ticker?)[/quote]

    Denis,

    I think that is an excellent representation of their kits. I’ve always liked to see that type of ‘evolutionary’ progression because it shows the best of the past and also where the mistakes were made and how they’ve been corrected. It also fits perfectly with Paul’s mention of ‘Blackstock’s Collections’ and visual lists. Good work.[/quote]

    Cheers PlaneY, took a while to do, for a club that’s only 23 years old City have had quite a mix of designs and colours[/quote]

    Denis,

    Any reason that the Cork kits migrated from Red to Green, was it to be a little different than GAA? When I think of the Peoples Republic of Cork, I see only Red. Not just because I am in Limerick mind you.[/quote]

    Green has always been associated with Cork soccer, I think the change to red in the mid-90s was probably to be more like the GAA, though I must admit I was glad when they returned to green

  • =bg= | August 6, 2007 at 5:05 pm |

    More on Bonds helmet
    http://www.sfgate.co...

  • =bg= | August 6, 2007 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”129245″]can some people please talk about how awful the new syracuse helmet is. the “block s” is as generic as a helmet can get. the plain orange helmet we used to have was more identifiable with syracuse than the new helmet can ever be. stanford and nc st already use an “s” on their helmets. and michigan st used to do the same. please help me in getting the word out about an awful helmet. thanks in advance[/quote]

    Color it green and you get a Spartan

  • josh | August 6, 2007 at 5:12 pm |

    There is an article page D1 of today’s New York Times about the pitchers who gave up the record tying homers, and included are photos of Clay Hensley this past Sat. night, and Jack Billingham in a photo dated 1972. What is striking about these juxtaposed photos, pullover jerseys and elastic waistbands aside, is how much better looking the ’72 Reds are than the ‘07 Padres.

    Part of this may just be the difference between Reds and Padres, since the ’72 Pads resembled bags of Peanut M&Ms, but I believe their generational differences in which the ‘70s are far superior.

    The first thing that struck me is fit. Billingham’s uni fits him, and he looks like a major leaguer in it. Hensley’s looks like a hand-me-down from his older brother. Next are the stirrups, and to the Reds credit, no team was more diligent than the Reds in preserving the proper display of stirrups through the ‘70s and early ‘80s. The third difference are Jack’s swoosh-free, logo-creepless, anonymously manufactured spikes, which also provide a more major league appearance.

    It has been said by many that with introduction double-knit, powder blue, and Sansibel, the ‘70s were the downfall of the baseball uniform. While the return of buttons and belts, and home white and road gray are laudable, there is much they got right in the ‘70s that is oh, so wrong today.

  • jesse | August 6, 2007 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”129299″][quote comment=”129245″]can some people please talk about how awful the new syracuse helmet is. the “block s” is as generic as a helmet can get. the plain orange helmet we used to have was more identifiable with syracuse than the new helmet can ever be. stanford and nc st already use an “s” on their helmets. and michigan st used to do the same. please help me in getting the word out about an awful helmet. thanks in advance[/quote]

    Color it green and you get a Spartan[/quote]

    Syracuse should have kept the numbers, that was a much better look.

    I think adding the NY to the helemt has something to do with the proposed Big Ten expansion.

  • Chico Mike | August 6, 2007 at 5:21 pm |

    In addition to Garnett not having a number in that Boston promo piece, he’s also wearing his earrings.

    And I see that the Chosen One logo of the Arizona Cardinals is the now 3-year outdated version that I still spot on official sites, as well as the NFL network from time to time. Sheesh.

  • Jack H. | August 6, 2007 at 5:28 pm |

    Oh, and did anyone ever catch this? I guess the Lakeland Tigers (Tigers’ single-A Florida State League team) rebranded themselves as the “Lakeland Flying Tigers,” apparently after a pilot training school in WWII that used to be on the site of their stadium. I can find any uniform pics, though, just this article. It musive happened at the beginning of the season. Apparently, their road uniforms are khaki like the Padres’.

    http://www.minorleag...

  • Denis Hurley | August 6, 2007 at 5:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”129267″][quote comment=”129260″][quote comment=”129241″]What do people think of the Cork City kits gallery I created? (mentioned in the ticker?)[/quote]

    Denis,

    I think that is an excellent representation of their kits. I’ve always liked to see that type of ‘evolutionary’ progression because it shows the best of the past and also where the mistakes were made and how they’ve been corrected. It also fits perfectly with Paul’s mention of ‘Blackstock’s Collections’ and visual lists. Good work.[/quote]

    Great look at the uni history of Cork City FC Kits, but I think that Paul might like to see the history of this also
    http://www.answers.c...

    Now that you mention it: http://www.rebelgaa.... :)

  • Nickbob | August 6, 2007 at 5:37 pm |

    the Chosen One logo of the Arizona Cardinals is the now 3-year outdated version that I still spot on official sites, as well as the NFL network from time to time. Sheesh.

    As is the Seahawks logo, changed in 2002.

  • Chad G | August 6, 2007 at 5:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”129304″]Oh, and did anyone ever catch this? I guess the Lakeland Tigers (Tigers’ single-A Florida State League team) rebranded themselves as the “Lakeland Flying Tigers,” apparently after a pilot training school in WWII that used to be on the site of their stadium. I can find any uniform pics, though, just this article. It musive happened at the beginning of the season. Apparently, their road uniforms are khaki like the Padres’.

    http://www.minorleag...

    It was in the ticker from an entry last november.

  • nif | August 6, 2007 at 5:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”129299″][quote comment=”129245″]can some people please talk about how awful the new syracuse helmet is. the “block s” is as generic as a helmet can get. the plain orange helmet we used to have was more identifiable with syracuse than the new helmet can ever be. stanford and nc st already use an “s” on their helmets. and michigan st used to do the same. please help me in getting the word out about an awful helmet. thanks in advance[/quote]

    Color it green and you get a Spartan[/quote]

    i believe i read on here that Michigan state owns teh trademark to the block s, so syracuse must have had to get permission to use it (i belive syracuse had to default to a block s with a script syracuse above it) also MSU hasnt worn the block s since 2002 they use the spartan logo now

  • Rob Curtin | August 6, 2007 at 5:55 pm |

    Just re-printing Paul’s link to this site: scroll down and look at the new Blues jersey. Dear God I hope that isn’t what our sweaters look like this season. True it isn’t a huge change from our recent jerseys, but that piping just kills the whole thing.

  • Tommythecpa | August 6, 2007 at 5:56 pm |

    I collect Braves uniforms. The never wore the mesh caps in the regular season.
    As a sidebar-They wore Wilson brand hats with the 1972-75 Sandknit feather unis.
    The 81-86 uniforms represented in the picture were made by Wilson.

  • Big Otto | August 6, 2007 at 5:56 pm |

    Syracuse has only changed their basic helmet design twice since 1977.

    I think we angered the helmet gods with the first change in 2005, those numbered helmets were jinxed.

  • johnt | August 6, 2007 at 6:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”129307″][quote comment=”129267″][quote comment=”129260″][quote comment=”129241″]What do people think of the Cork City kits gallery I created? (mentioned in the ticker?)[/quote]

    Denis,

    I think that is an excellent representation of their kits. I’ve always liked to see that type of ‘evolutionary’ progression because it shows the best of the past and also where the mistakes were made and how they’ve been corrected. It also fits perfectly with Paul’s mention of ‘Blackstock’s Collections’ and visual lists. Good work.[/quote]

    Great look at the uni history of Cork City FC Kits, but I think that Paul might like to see the history of this also
    http://www.answers.c...

    Now that you mention it: http://www.rebelgaa.... :)[/quote]

    Great stuff, be glad that Cork never wore those 2005-07 change kits or you might have been confused with another team
    http://www.abc.net.a...

    Great work on both GAA and Cork City FC, good to see GAA and Irish ‘Soccer’ represented on Uniwatch

  • johnt | August 6, 2007 at 6:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”129318″][quote comment=”129307″][quote comment=”129267″][quote comment=”129260″][quote comment=”129241″]What do people think of the Cork City kits gallery I created? (mentioned in the ticker?)[/quote]

    Denis,

    I think that is an excellent representation of their kits. I’ve always liked to see that type of ‘evolutionary’ progression because it shows the best of the past and also where the mistakes were made and how they’ve been corrected. It also fits perfectly with Paul’s mention of ‘Blackstock’s Collections’ and visual lists. Good work.[/quote]

    Great look at the uni history of Cork City FC Kits, but I think that Paul might like to see the history of this also
    http://www.answers.c...

    Now that you mention it: http://www.rebelgaa.... :)[/quote]

    Great stuff, be glad that Cork never wore those 2005-07 change kits or you might have been confused with another team
    http://www.abc.net.a...

    Great work on both GAA and Cork City FC, good to see GAA and Irish ‘Soccer’ represented on Uniwatch[/quote]

    sorry, bad link, try this one
    http://www.abc.net.a...

  • Denis Hurley | August 6, 2007 at 6:26 pm |

    Yeah I guessed it’d be a picture like that, you’d be able to tell the difference though as Cork actually win sometimes in GAA and England rugby seem to have forgotten how to do that (Don’t mention yesterday!)

  • Jack H. | August 6, 2007 at 7:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”129309″][quote comment=”129304″]Oh, and did anyone ever catch this? I guess the Lakeland Tigers (Tigers’ single-A Florida State League team) rebranded themselves as the “Lakeland Flying Tigers,” apparently after a pilot training school in WWII that used to be on the site of their stadium. I can find any uniform pics, though, just this article. It musive happened at the beginning of the season. Apparently, their road uniforms are khaki like the Padres’.

    http://www.minorleag...

    It was in the ticker from an entry last november.[/quote]

    Yeah, but I’m looking for pictures of them. The khaki uniforms intrigue me.

  • Chad G | August 6, 2007 at 7:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”129332″][quote comment=”129309″][quote comment=”129304″]Oh, and did anyone ever catch this? I guess the Lakeland Tigers (Tigers’ single-A Florida State League team) rebranded themselves as the “Lakeland Flying Tigers,” apparently after a pilot training school in WWII that used to be on the site of their stadium. I can find any uniform pics, though, just this article. It musive happened at the beginning of the season. Apparently, their road uniforms are khaki like the Padres’.

    http://www.minorleag...

    It was in the ticker from an entry last november.[/quote]

    Yeah, but I’m looking for pictures of them. The khaki uniforms intrigue me.[/quote]

    There are some crappy photos in this webshots album.

  • Chad G | August 6, 2007 at 7:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”129334″][quote comment=”129332″][quote comment=”129309″][quote comment=”129304″]Oh, and did anyone ever catch this? I guess the Lakeland Tigers (Tigers’ single-A Florida State League team) rebranded themselves as the “Lakeland Flying Tigers,” apparently after a pilot training school in WWII that used to be on the site of their stadium. I can find any uniform pics, though, just this article. It musive happened at the beginning of the season. Apparently, their road uniforms are khaki like the Padres’.

    http://www.minorleag...

    It was in the ticker from an entry last november.[/quote]

    Yeah, but I’m looking for pictures of them. The khaki uniforms intrigue me.[/quote]

    There are some crappy photos in this webshots album.[/quote]

    Or you can look here on flickr, photos there just take forever to load on my computer.

  • Pixbergkid | August 6, 2007 at 7:44 pm |

    OK this isn’t so much a Uni comment. But did anyone watching the HOF game notice home many friggin hashmarks there were???

  • Mike Engle | August 6, 2007 at 7:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”129336″]OK this isn’t so much a Uni comment. But did anyone watching the HOF game notice home many friggin hashmarks there were???[/quote]
    Speaking of the NFL Hall of Fame, you can buy their replica jerseys. (From a glance, it looks like they got it right! Except for the half-stripe patterns of Thomas and Sanders. I’m speechless. Why?)

  • dpnation | August 6, 2007 at 8:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”129296″]
    (And the dpnation site is under a Creative Commons license, which gets the thumbs-up from the copyright lawyer.)[/quote]

    haha, you and my brother. He’s intellectual property and patent law in NYC.

    My real fear isn’t so much the copyright, it’s more the whole ‘I’ll never be able to run for political office after running my website’ thing. Oh well.

  • branden | August 6, 2007 at 8:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”129336″]OK this isn’t so much a Uni comment. But did anyone watching the HOF game notice home many friggin hashmarks there were???[/quote]

    The outer lines were because it is a high school field, thus wider hashmarks. The NFL’s are tighter.

  • TD | August 6, 2007 at 8:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”129340″][quote comment=”129336″]OK this isn’t so much a Uni comment. But did anyone watching the HOF game notice home many friggin hashmarks there were???[/quote]

    The outer lines were because it is a high school field, thus wider hashmarks. The NFL’s are tighter.[/quote]

    Fawcett Stadium hosts the Hall Of Fame Game (pro), Malone College and Walsh University home games (NAIA college), and Glen Oak, McKinley, and Timken High Schools. So, three hash mark rules, three sets of hash marks.

    more info here..

  • John Baranowski | August 6, 2007 at 9:02 pm |

    not very uni related, but someone asked me a question last night that i just had no clue what the answer is:

    why are high school and college hash marks wider than pro? shouldn’t it be harder for the kickers in the pros?

  • Sam Mc | August 6, 2007 at 9:21 pm |

    My idea for half throwback/half recent phillies jerseys

  • Patrick | August 6, 2007 at 10:07 pm |

    Hey, ran across this at the MLS website, just a couple old logos from the league. Pretty interesting, I think. (Compare with foreign teams who more often than not have a crest or coat of arms)

  • Patrick | August 6, 2007 at 10:07 pm |
  • Patrick | August 6, 2007 at 10:09 pm |

    Oh my gosh, sorry everyone…third try…\
    okay I’m just going to put the URL

    http://ww2.mlsnet.co...

  • Timmer | August 6, 2007 at 10:41 pm |

    Check out this picture from 3 or 4 years ago of Jose Reyes pre-pajama pants. Looks like a totally different player… compare with this

  • Brian from Short Island | August 6, 2007 at 10:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”129318″][quote comment=”129307″][quote comment=”129267″][quote comment=”129260″][quote comment=”129241″]What do people think of the Cork City kits gallery I created? (mentioned in the ticker?)[/quote]

    Denis,

    I think that is an excellent representation of their kits. I’ve always liked to see that type of ‘evolutionary’ progression because it shows the best of the past and also where the mistakes were made and how they’ve been corrected. It also fits perfectly with Paul’s mention of ‘Blackstock’s Collections’ and visual lists. Good work.[/quote]

    Great look at the uni history of Cork City FC Kits, but I think that Paul might like to see the history of this also
    http://www.answers.c...

    Now that you mention it: http://www.rebelgaa.... :)[/quote]

    Great stuff, be glad that Cork never wore those 2005-07 change kits or you might have been confused with another team
    http://www.abc.net.a...

    Great work on both GAA and Cork City FC, good to see GAA and Irish ‘Soccer’ represented on Uniwatch[/quote]
    Great work, but O’Neill’s shirts are such piss-poor quality. Soccer is a “foreign game” anyway, why do they care if it’s adidas or someone else?

  • Dan | August 6, 2007 at 10:58 pm |

    What’s up with the Buc’s practice jerseys?

    ROFL…

  • DCM | August 6, 2007 at 11:07 pm |

    Just from looking at pics of Hank my whole life, seems like there were some pics of him wearing 52 or 54. Some photos you can see where the number was removed.

    Many Steelers wore white shoes back in their Super Bowl years, while others wore black (and L.C. Greenwood wore yellow adidas hightops). Grey facemasks, long sleeves, different length socks…those were the days.

    The Braves only wore those mesh caps in spring training. I’ve made it to BP for one game so far this year, and I ‘m pretty sure they were wearing the BP caps. That was in June against the Nats. Great if they ditched the things.

  • DCM | August 6, 2007 at 11:11 pm |

    Great work by Marty. I too have been doodling for years, since grade school. Boys in my class would line up for my tracings…some requested different facemasks, though I perferred the single bar. These days I can’t leave my drawings or scrapbooks laying open around my desk.

    And great NY Giants tickets, though they had some ugly ones there in the late 70’s. Glad they wised up!

  • Steve Prudente | August 6, 2007 at 11:12 pm |

    In the 3rd inning of tonight’s Nationals/Giants game, the announcers mentioned that Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum keeps track of his strikeouts by writing tally marks under his brim.

  • Terri | August 6, 2007 at 11:13 pm |

    Ok, after seeing the replica HOF jerseys, I have a complaint.
    Why is it that whenever sports stores make women’s clothes, they’re in pastels, or have crystals, or some other ridiculous change? Is it really so hard to believe that I would actually want to wear my team’s colors and a pink shirt with their logo put on it?
    I guess until the apparel companies realize that I’m trying to support my team and not win a beauty contest, I’m stuck ordering from the kids’ and mens’ sections…

  • Cowboy | August 6, 2007 at 11:15 pm |

    That pic of the Braves, focusing on their use of game caps rather than BP caps, is illustrative of the reason MLB needs a uniform cop, like the NFL … those pajama bottom pants justaposed to the high hemmed pants with solid socks … they are not UNIFORM!

  • Terri | August 6, 2007 at 11:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”129366″]Ok, after seeing the replica HOF jerseys, I have a complaint.
    Why is it that whenever sports stores make women’s clothes, they’re in pastels, or have crystals, or some other ridiculous change? Is it really so hard to believe that I would actually want to wear my team’s colors and a pink shirt with their logo put on it?
    I guess until the apparel companies realize that I’m trying to support my team and not win a beauty contest, I’m stuck ordering from the kids’ and mens’ sections…[/quote]

    *i meant to say- wear my teams colors and not a pink shirt

  • Greg | August 6, 2007 at 11:20 pm |

    Saltalamacchia is wearing a batting helmet with no Texas logo on it tonight. He’s also changed numbers from 16 to 25, which caused Jerry Hairston Jr. to start wearing 23.

    Saltalamacchia no helmet logo
    New jersey number and a shot of his name.

  • Cowboy | August 6, 2007 at 11:24 pm |

    And, speaking of adjustable caps, remember when the former manager of the Twins, Tom Kelly would wear an adjustable cap during games back in the 90’s?

  • Mike Engle | August 6, 2007 at 11:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”129371″]Saltalamacchia is wearing a batting helmet with no Texas logo on it tonight. He’s also changed numbers from 16 to 25, which caused Jerry Hairston Jr. to start wearing 23.

    Saltalamacchia no helmet logo
    New jersey number and a shot of his name.[/quote]
    I guess the Rangers aren’t retiring Palmeiro’s number, are they? Hopefully, Jarrod can inject some good karma into the jersey. Not to put any salt into that wound…

  • john | August 6, 2007 at 11:31 pm |

    The previously linked NYR jersey was fake. Here’s the real new uniform.

  • Greg | August 6, 2007 at 11:38 pm |

    And now Salty has the T on his right handed batting helmet.

    Now he just needs to learn how to not swing at EVERYTHING.

    Here

  • JJWasz | August 7, 2007 at 12:07 am |

    [quote comment=”129312″]Just re-printing Paul’s link to this site: scroll down and look at the new Blues jersey. Dear God I hope that isn’t what our sweaters look like this season. True it isn’t a huge change from our recent jerseys, but that piping just kills the whole thing.[/quote]

    I wouldn’t trust any site that has a uniform/logo competition where the greatest hockey sweater of all time has 2 wins and 11 loses, I am of course speaking about the blackhawks logo/uni. Something isn’t right over there.

  • Andrew F. | August 7, 2007 at 12:24 am |

    I didn’t read through all the comments today, so sorry if it’s a repost, but these are a bit ironic, no?

    http://www.i-deas.co...
    http://www.i-deas.co...
    http://www.i-deas.co...

  • pixbergkid | August 7, 2007 at 12:28 am |

    [quote comment=”129343″][quote comment=”129340″][quote comment=”129336″]OK this isn’t so much a Uni comment. But did anyone watching the HOF game notice home many friggin hashmarks there were???[/quote]

    The outer lines were because it is a high school field, thus wider hashmarks. The NFL’s are tighter.[/quote]

    Fawcett Stadium hosts the Hall Of Fame Game (pro), Malone College and Walsh University home games (NAIA college), and Glen Oak, McKinley, and Timken High Schools. So, three hash mark rules, three sets of hash marks.

    more info here..[/quote]

    Ok but that doesnt explain why there were hashes about two feet apart the entire way across the 20 yard line.

  • pixbergkid | August 7, 2007 at 12:31 am |

    Also did anyone notice the size of the numbers on Marvel Smiths back they were huge…..trying to find some pics……

  • Brendan | August 7, 2007 at 12:53 am |

    [quote comment=”129398″][quote comment=”129343″][quote comment=”129340″][quote comment=”129336″]OK this isn’t so much a Uni comment. But did anyone watching the HOF game notice home many friggin hashmarks there were???[/quote]

    The outer lines were because it is a high school field, thus wider hashmarks. The NFL’s are tighter.[/quote]

    Fawcett Stadium hosts the Hall Of Fame Game (pro), Malone College and Walsh University home games (NAIA college), and Glen Oak, McKinley, and Timken High Schools. So, three hash mark rules, three sets of hash marks.

    more info here..[/quote]

    Ok but that doesnt explain why there were hashes about two feet apart the entire way across the 20 yard line.[/quote]

    The widest set of hash marks are for high school games, the middle set are for college games, and the inside set are for pro games. There are also extra X’s for the kickoffs, markers for differing yardage number placements, and markers for the extra point tries.

  • John Baranowski | August 7, 2007 at 1:16 am |

    [quote comment=”129400″][quote comment=”129398″][quote comment=”129343″][quote comment=”129340″][quote comment=”129336″]OK this isn’t so much a Uni comment. But did anyone watching the HOF game notice home many friggin hashmarks there were???[/quote]

    The outer lines were because it is a high school field, thus wider hashmarks. The NFL’s are tighter.[/quote]

    Fawcett Stadium hosts the Hall Of Fame Game (pro), Malone College and Walsh University home games (NAIA college), and Glen Oak, McKinley, and Timken High Schools. So, three hash mark rules, three sets of hash marks.

    more info here..[/quote]

    Ok but that doesnt explain why there were hashes about two feet apart the entire way across the 20 yard line.[/quote]

    The widest set of hash marks are for high school games, the middle set are for college games, and the inside set are for pro games. There are also extra X’s for the kickoffs, markers for differing yardage number placements, and markers for the extra point tries.[/quote]

    someone asked me a question regarding this, and i couldn’t answer them. why are the pro hash marks closer together than college and high school? shouldn’t the pros be harder for kickers and quarterbacks?

  • JA | August 7, 2007 at 2:31 am |

    [quote comment=”129360″]What’s up with the Buc’s practice jerseys?

    ROFL…[/quote]Wow…Ryan Leaf?

  • lumpy | August 7, 2007 at 2:44 am |

    [quote comment=”129403″]

    someone asked me a question regarding this, and i couldn’t answer them. why are the pro hash marks closer together than college and high school? shouldn’t the pros be harder for kickers and quarterbacks?[/quote]

    Don’t the hashmarks line-up with the goalposts?

  • Brendan | August 7, 2007 at 2:47 am |

    They have wider field goal posts in high school (the posts are the same width as the hashes under both rulesets), so the kicks are actually easier.

  • DrBear | August 7, 2007 at 8:16 am |

    The high school goalposts are 24 feet wide, the college and pros 18. The HS hashmarks are not the same width as the posts.

    The NFL moved the hashmarks in back in the early 70s in order to “stretch” the defenses, keeping them from bunching toward the wide side of the field, at a time when scoring was down. That was at a time when soccer-style kickers were still somewhat new and nobody realized how accurate they could and would be. So that wasn’t figured in.

    And as George Carlin said, “they moved the hashmarks … but the players found ’em and smoked ’em anyway.”