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Museum and Stadium Tour, Hon

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[Editor’s Note: Uni Watch Baltimore bureau chief Joe Hilseberg recently toured two excellent sports facilities that feature loads of uni-related exhibits. He took loads of pics and was happy to oblige when I asked him to write some accompanying text to go with them. His report follows. — PL]

By Joe Hilseberg

Over the past month I’ve made two visits to the Sports Legends Museum in Baltimore. It’s like a mini Hall of Fame and is an ideal place to go if you want to wrap you brain around Baltimore/Maryland sports and get a feel for what they mean to the community. I also finally took the Camden Yards Stadium Tour. I took a lot of photos, but here are some particularly noteworthy shots from both the museum and the stadium tour:

  • Babe Ruth statue: The interesting thing here is that the 18-year-old Babe is depicted with a right-handed glove. You would initially think the sculptor had made a huge mistake, but he actually paid very close attention to detail. When Babe was 18, he was still Attending St. Mary’s School in Baltimore and most likely could not afford a glove of his own. It was very common back then for teams to share gloves, which often meant lefties had to make due with a righty glove. Kudos to the sculptor.
  • Center field ivy wall: I asked the tour guide why the ivy didn’t grow all the way to the top, and he said it was because that’s where ESPN like to hang banners and put logos. I’d rather have the ivy.
  • Oriole figurine: This is the original bird from the 1954 welcome float (a photo of which is shown above the bird).
  • Brooks Robinson’s short brim helmet: Wondering why Brooks wore the short brim? Here’s his own explanation, which I pulled off of a site he posted on: “Back in the early ’70s, the Commissioner’s Office made it mandatory for anyone coming into the big leagues to wear an earflap on your helmet. If you were already in Major League Baseball you had a choice whether to do that or not. Of course, I wanted to wear the flap because it gave me more protection. … But when I got the helmet with the flap and put it on, it seemed like the bill was a little longer than my normal hat … and consequently when I went up to hit I could see the brim and part of the flap. It made me lose my concentration. I took care of it by taking a hacksaw blade and cut about 1 ½ inches off the brim and about half an inch off the flap. That’s how I got my short brim.”
  • Gordon’s Stores jersey: This was a rec league team, sponsored by a local dry cleaning operation. Al Kaline played for them — and for several other local teams — in 1951-52. According to something I found online, Kaline said, “I’d play a game in one end of town, then my father or uncle would drive me to another game. I would change uniforms in the car on the way. Sometimes I’d play three games a day. I never got enough.” He went to the Tigers right from high school, so these teams served as his minor leagues, which shows just how strong the baseball landscape was in Baltimore back then.
  • Awesome sweater and cap: These belonged to “Home Run” Baker [so known for his league-leading HR totals of 11 in 1911, 10 in 1912, 12 in 1913, and 9 in 1914 — PL].

Friendly Reminder: Paul’s on vacation. If you have questions, observations, or contributions, send them to Vince.

Uni Watch News Ticker: On the heels of yesterday’s fantastic analysis of uniforms in video games by Eriq Jaffe (and what a great job he did) we get the commercial and ridiculous side of the coin in this Xbox 360 trailer for NHL ’08 that advertises the new Rbk Edge Uniform System. John Staton, who passed along the video, said, “The mind boggles.” My mind actually just threw up in my mouth a little bit… Paul Sipes passed on this photo essay of the atrocious history of US soccer uniforms… Here’s a podcast and article from Chris Murphy about a Narka, Kansas baseball uniform from the 1940’s… Tony Parker’s wax sculpture at the Grevin Wax Museum in France wears a Spurs uniform featuring the French flag down the sides. The real Tony Parker modeled the same awful uniform for this pic (Merci to Spencer Koch)… Interesting article about the preponderance of jersey rip-offs surrounding the Major League All-Star Game… Michael Boriotti has noticed that Milton Bradley is missing the MLB logo patch on the back of his jersey (watch the ‘sliding grab’ video for proof)… In a completely unsurprising move, Nike has suspended the release of the new Michael Vick shoe (a Fido-friendly thanks to Greg Riffenburgh)… During the Tour de France I have always loved how the female presenters coordinate with the jersey they are awarding…Reprinted from yesterday’s comments section, the men’s USA basketball team scrimmaged this weekend, giving us a chance to see their jerseys in action… Scroll to near the end of this column to find out why Jason Richardson wears #23 (thanks to Richard Hochroth)…

 

266 comments to Museum and Stadium Tour, Hon

  • Jeremy | July 24, 2007 at 8:11 am |

    Not to be negative, but regarding the New Jersey All-Star game, I believe that the league did not misspell the names on the jerseys, but the paper misspelled them in the article. Also, the penguins links are not working for me.

  • Dane | July 24, 2007 at 8:18 am |

    The Penguins links are not working because the team asked the board admin to pull the pictures. Let’s hope they don’t find this page too quickly…

    http://storyofhope.c...

  • Elena E | July 24, 2007 at 8:20 am |

    Great photos, Joe! I’ve never done the Sports Legends Museum. so this will get me in there next time I’m in Bal’mer. They do have the best stadium tour I’ve taken anywhere. [The former-teacher in me has to correct your “lefties had to make due with a righty glove”. It’s “make do”. I give you a 99 on your report].

  • John in Athens | July 24, 2007 at 8:31 am |

    “On the heels of yesterday’s fantastic analysis of uniforms in video games by Eriq Jaffe (and what a great job he did) we get the commercial and ridiculous side of the coin in this Xbox 360 trailer for NHL ‘08 that advertises the new Rbk Edge Uniform System.”

    How lucky are we to live in the Rbk Edge Uniform Era?!

    I mean, think of all those sad saps who were forced to watch thier hockey heros skate in inferior uniform systems!

    By the way, am I the only person who is suprized to see the Return of British Knights in the hockey business? I mean, after the tanking of the Michael Jackson shoe I thought they were down and out. Not so. BK is back! Who’s BK? “RBK!!!”

  • jesse | July 24, 2007 at 8:35 am |

    Are there pinstripes on the white USA basketball jersey?

  • Natron | July 24, 2007 at 8:35 am |

    Regarding Brooks Robinson’s earflap…

    Did MLB recind the early 70’s requirement for an earflap, and then reinstate it later? The reason I ask is because Tim Raines didn’t start his career until 1979 and he never wore a helmet with an earflap (I don’t think).

  • Stuby | July 24, 2007 at 8:35 am |

    It may have just been the way he was wearing his jersey but in Jon Lester’s return to the Red Sox last night, it looked like his name and number were kind of rotated on his jersey.

    Also, Lester has halved his uni number from 62 to 31.

  • Gabe | July 24, 2007 at 8:37 am |

    Does anyone else think it’s odd to see the spelling on the front of the Team USA Jerseys as “U.S.A.” with the periods? I can’t recall seeing that, but it looks awkward to me…

  • Dane | July 24, 2007 at 8:40 am |

    The new San Jose Sharks logos will be officially unveiled later today:

    “Fans will have their first opportunity to view the new look and secondary marks July 24 at 10 a.m. PST on sjsharks.com and merchandise with the updated logo and new marks at the Sharks Store will be available starting on that date as well.

    “While the logo will be released tomorrow, the new-look jerseys will not be previewed until closer to training camp. All NHL jerseys will be altered to some degree this year as Reebok introduces new fabrics to help enhance player skills.”

  • Stuby | July 24, 2007 at 8:41 am |

    [quote comment=”123386″]Regarding Brooks Robinson’s earflap…

    Did MLB recind the early 70’s requirement for an earflap, and then reinstate it later? The reason I ask is because Tim Raines didn’t start his career until 1979 and he never wore a helmet with an earflap (I don’t think).[/quote]
    I don’t know; Gary Gaetti didn’t debut until 1981 and he had a no-flapper also.

  • Natron | July 24, 2007 at 8:46 am |

    [quote comment=”123391″][quote comment=”123386″]Regarding Brooks Robinson’s earflap…

    Did MLB recind the early 70’s requirement for an earflap, and then reinstate it later? The reason I ask is because Tim Raines didn’t start his career until 1979 and he never wore a helmet with an earflap (I don’t think).[/quote]
    I don’t know; Gary Gaetti didn’t debut until 1981 and he had a no-flapper also.[/quote]

    I think he did end up finishing his career with an earflap, but that wasn’t always the case.

  • Stuby | July 24, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    [quote comment=”123392″][quote comment=”123391″][quote comment=”123386″]Regarding Brooks Robinson’s earflap…

    Did MLB recind the early 70’s requirement for an earflap, and then reinstate it later? The reason I ask is because Tim Raines didn’t start his career until 1979 and he never wore a helmet with an earflap (I don’t think).[/quote]
    I don’t know; Gary Gaetti didn’t debut until 1981 and he had a no-flapper also.[/quote]

    I think he did end up finishing his career with an earflap, but that wasn’t always the case.[/quote]
    Interesting about Gaetti. I couldn’t find anything in the Major League Baseball rulebook about batting helmets or when the rule about flaps became mandatory.

  • Joey Guns | July 24, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    Here’s an update on the “down payment for house in exchange for jersey #30″……….Ahman Green:

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Cathy | July 24, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    M.I.T. developing new “space suit” for future astronauts:

  • Stuby | July 24, 2007 at 8:58 am |

    Found it…

    Major League Rule 1.16
    A Professional League shall adopt the following rule pertaining to the use of helmets:

    (c) All players entering the Major Leagues commencing with the 1983 championship season and every succeeding season thereafter must wear a single ear-flap helmet (or at the player’s option,a double ear-flap helmet), except those players who were in the Major League during the 1982 season, and who, as recorded in that season, objected to wearing a single ear-flap helmet.

  • Natron | July 24, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    [quote comment=”123401″][quote comment=”123392″][quote comment=”123391″][quote comment=”123386″]Regarding Brooks Robinson’s earflap…

    Did MLB recind the early 70’s requirement for an earflap, and then reinstate it later? The reason I ask is because Tim Raines didn’t start his career until 1979 and he never wore a helmet with an earflap (I don’t think).[/quote]
    I don’t know; Gary Gaetti didn’t debut until 1981 and he had a no-flapper also.[/quote]

    I think he did end up finishing his career with an earflap, but that wasn’t always the case.[/quote]
    Interesting about Gaetti. I couldn’t find anything in the Major League Baseball rulebook about batting helmets or when the rule about flaps became mandatory.[/quote]

    I guess that had never even occurred to me though… that at one point he did wear an earflap, but then toward the end, he didn’t. I assumed that players who didn’t wear an earflap early in their careers were grandfathered in the rule and allowed to continue without one, but evidently it applied to those who didn’t wear an earflap either.

  • Stuby | July 24, 2007 at 9:02 am |

    [quote comment=”123405″][quote comment=”123401″][quote comment=”123392″][quote comment=”123391″][quote comment=”123386″]Regarding Brooks Robinson’s earflap…

    Did MLB recind the early 70’s requirement for an earflap, and then reinstate it later? The reason I ask is because Tim Raines didn’t start his career until 1979 and he never wore a helmet with an earflap (I don’t think).[/quote]
    I don’t know; Gary Gaetti didn’t debut until 1981 and he had a no-flapper also.[/quote]

    I think he did end up finishing his career with an earflap, but that wasn’t always the case.[/quote]
    Interesting about Gaetti. I couldn’t find anything in the Major League Baseball rulebook about batting helmets or when the rule about flaps became mandatory.[/quote]

    I guess that had never even occurred to me though… that at one point he did wear an earflap, but then toward the end, he didn’t. I assumed that players who didn’t wear an earflap early in their careers were grandfathered in the rule and allowed to continue without one, but evidently it applied to those who didn’t wear an earflap either.[/quote]
    And that baseball card you linked earlier is a 1987 Topps, I believe. Weird.

  • BCrisp | July 24, 2007 at 9:07 am |

    The astros will be honoring STS-120/10A tonight by having the crew through out the first pitch. Also the team will wear the mission patch on their hats. I’ll be going to the game tonight trying to receive one of the hat give-aways.

    Part of my job is to train the crew of this mission, so tonight should be a special night for us.

  • Everett | July 24, 2007 at 9:08 am |

    The first base umpire in last night’s Braves-Giants game had the all-star patch on his hat. Not sure if this has been happening in San Fran all year or if it was a one night stand…

  • BCrisp | July 24, 2007 at 9:14 am |

    I forgot a picture of the hat. Subtract the USA logo and you’ll have what the Astros will be wearign.
    STS-120 hat

  • Mike V. | July 24, 2007 at 9:24 am |

    I was looking forward to another great Pens season, but with those new uniforms it may take some time to get used to looking at them. Hopefully Sid’s mad skills will outshine all that gold on his jersey. It looks like something from Liberace’s closet. The Pens never really had a bad uni until now.

  • Dave in Minnesota | July 24, 2007 at 9:26 am |

    I rehosted the Pens jerseys.

    Home


    Away

    Pants

  • Chris Doran | July 24, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    Is it me, or is the Oriole Bird’s stirrup backwards??

    http://farm2.static....

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    The Penguins’ jerseys can still be seen on my blog. The Penguins have not contacted me yet, so check them out if you like.

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 9:37 am |

    [quote comment=”123417″]I rehosted the Pens jerseys.

    Pants
    [/quote]

    The pants look like the shell that Reebok was hyping that go over a current set of equipment. Personally, I wouldn’t wear them. Another layer over top of my pants only will add to the problem of sweat evaporation.

  • Natron | July 24, 2007 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”123416″] The Pens never really had a bad uni until now.[/quote]

    I don’t know about that. The triangular, gray, pinstripes? Never did anything for me.

  • Steve | July 24, 2007 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”123373″]Not to be negative, but regarding the New Jersey All-Star game, I believe that the league did not misspell the names on the jerseys, but the paper misspelled them in the article. Also, the penguins links are not working for me.[/quote]

    You’re right. The Record (awesome to see my hometown paper getting linked here by the way) is simply correcting typos in their all-league and all-county honors that they publish. They do that a lot during the end-of-season period to avoid phone calls from angry parents I’m sure.

  • Shadeymonk | July 24, 2007 at 9:55 am |

    Anyone see this word-mark on the San Jose Sharks page?

    http://assets.sjshar...

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”123433″]Anyone see this word-mark on the San Jose Sharks page?

    http://assets.sjshar...

    That’s their old font. They’ve been using it quite sparingly since their first season.

  • Stuby | July 24, 2007 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”123433″]Anyone see this word-mark on the San Jose Sharks page?

    http://assets.sjshar...
    I may be wrong, but I think that dates way back to the inception of the team.

  • Shadeymonk | July 24, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment=”123435″][quote comment=”123433″]Anyone see this word-mark on the San Jose Sharks page?

    http://assets.sjshar...
    I may be wrong, but I think that dates way back to the inception of the team.[/quote]

    I wasn’t sure, I hadn’t seen it before.

  • jesse | July 24, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    I don’t see the outrage over the Pens jerseys. They have changed the design so much over the past few seasons, its hardly news that they did it again. Whats the difference between wierd gold stripes and weird gold side pannels. Neither look very good. Frankly, with all the excitement over last season, Crosby, Malkin, et al., I am suprised that the change was not more substantial. The changes they made probably won’t be noticed outside of UniWatch and hardcore Penguin fans.

    I really thought that they would go back to matching the Steelers colors after the arena deal got done.

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”123437″]I don’t see the outrage over the Pens jerseys. They have changed the design so much over the past few seasons, its hardly news that they did it again. Whats the difference between wierd gold stripes and weird gold side pannels. Neither look very good. Frankly, with all the excitement over last season, Crosby, Malkin, et al., I am suprised that the change was not more substantial. The changes they made probably won’t be noticed outside of UniWatch and hardcore Penguin fans.

    I really thought that they would go back to matching the Steelers colors after the arena deal got done.[/quote]

    Hardcore hockey fans (meaning me) want that yellow to come back. It matches not only the other pro sports franchises in Pittsburgh, but also the city’s flag. Vegas gold in hockey is stupid, especially when used as much as the Penguins are proposing to use it. The smaller stripes I can handle, but not the ridiculous panels and on the sleeves.

  • Kim | July 24, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”123408″]The astros will be honoring STS-120/10A tonight by having the crew through out the first pitch. Also the team will wear the mission patch on their hats. I’ll be going to the game tonight trying to receive one of the hat give-aways.

    Part of my job is to train the crew of this mission, so tonight should be a special night for us.[/quote]

    That’s sweet. Col. Zamka is a guy I’ve worked with in the past. Tell Zambo that the PAX River MFS folks (of the past) says ‘Hi’!

  • Shaneey | July 24, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    This isn’t related, but i figured fellow uni fans would enjoy it anyway. Friend of mine sent me this over the weekend. It’s a uni violation site. Not sure they have everything, but there’s a lot listed. Good stuff. Enjoy.

    http://www.uniformvi...

  • Vince Grzegorek | July 24, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”123373″]Not to be negative, but regarding the New Jersey All-Star game, I believe that the league did not misspell the names on the jerseys, but the paper misspelled them in the article. Also, the penguins links are not working for me.[/quote]

    You are oh so right. My bad.

    Also, I fixed the link to the Tony Parker wax museum pic. It changed sometime last night or this morning to a advertisement and I didn’t notice. Now it’s okay again.

    Finally, I took out the links to the new Penguins jersey just to avoid any dead link issues. When it’s real, it’s real.

  • Latrell | July 24, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    (c) All players entering the Major Leagues commencing with the 1983 championship season and every succeeding season thereafter must wear a single ear-flap helmet (or at the player’s option,a double ear-flap helmet), except those players who were in the Major League during the 1982 season, and who, as recorded in that season, objected to wearing a single ear-flap helmet.

    Which technically means that Julio Franco is not obligated to wear a single flap helmet since he started his career in 1982. But he wears one anyways.

  • Kerry | July 24, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”123385″]Are there pinstripes on the white USA basketball jersey?[/quote]
    I see what you’re saying. It’s possible. Although it could be that the jersey material is ribbed (for their pleasure).

  • Stuby | July 24, 2007 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”123443″](c) All players entering the Major Leagues commencing with the 1983 championship season and every succeeding season thereafter must wear a single ear-flap helmet (or at the player’s option,a double ear-flap helmet), except those players who were in the Major League during the 1982 season, and who, as recorded in that season, objected to wearing a single ear-flap helmet.

    Which technically means that Julio Franco is not obligated to wear a single flap helmet since he started his career in 1982. But he wears one anyways.[/quote]
    Not unless he wore a no-flapper during the 1982 season.

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”123425″][quote comment=”123417″]I rehosted the Pens jerseys.

    Pants
    [/quote]

    The pants look like the shell that Reebok was hyping that go over a current set of equipment. Personally, I wouldn’t wear them. Another layer over top of my pants only will add to the problem of sweat evaporation.[/quote]

    Those shells need to be worn, they aren’t worn over a regular set of hockey pants, they cover up the girdle which looks like this. I wear a similar girdle and have different colored shells for each team i play for, helps make it easy to match unis, and the girdle has more protection in the hip area, and is very comfortable as well. This is not something new to hockey from rbk rather they are just making everyone wear them.

  • jesse | July 24, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”123439″][quote comment=”123437″]I don’t see the outrage over the Pens jerseys. They have changed the design so much over the past few seasons, its hardly news that they did it again. Whats the difference between wierd gold stripes and weird gold side pannels. Neither look very good. Frankly, with all the excitement over last season, Crosby, Malkin, et al., I am suprised that the change was not more substantial. The changes they made probably won’t be noticed outside of UniWatch and hardcore Penguin fans.

    I really thought that they would go back to matching the Steelers colors after the arena deal got done.[/quote]

    Hardcore hockey fans (meaning me) want that yellow to come back. It matches not only the other pro sports franchises in Pittsburgh, but also the city’s flag. Vegas gold in hockey is stupid, especially when used as much as the Penguins are proposing to use it. The smaller stripes I can handle, but not the ridiculous panels and on the sleeves.[/quote]

    I don’t disagree, in fact, I emphatically agree. My point was I really don’t see much of a difference, better or worse, between the new and old jerseys.

    From my perspective, I always though that when the North Stars took the “North” off their jersey that was the beginning of the end of that franchise (In Minnesota at least). While I realize that the Penguins switched to Vegas Gold a while ago, it always had the same kind of feel to me. Now that the team is in Pittsburgh to stay, I think that switching back to athletic gold (yellow) would be nice (if sub-conscious) way of affirming the fact they are Pittsburgh’s hockey team, rather than a hockey team that plays in Pittsburgh.

  • JJD | July 24, 2007 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”123389″]Does anyone else think it’s odd to see the spelling on the front of the Team USA Jerseys as “U.S.A.” with the periods? I can’t recall seeing that, but it looks awkward to me…[/quote]

    100% agreement, here. I watched the fourth quarter of that game and I couldn’t get over it. Otherwise they are quite sharp-looking.

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”123449″]
    Those shells need to be worn, they aren’t worn over a regular set of hockey pants, they cover up the girdle which looks like this. I wear a similar girdle and have different colored shells for each team i play for, helps make it easy to match unis, and the girdle has more protection in the hip area, and is very comfortable as well. This is not something new to hockey from rbk rather they are just making everyone wear them.[/quote]

    Not all players wear that girdle, though. Some still wear traditional pants, and the shell is supposed to be worn over the pants.

    While I realize that this isn’t something new from Reebok, I still would be against wearing a shell over top of my pants that do little to aid in keeping me dry. And there are lots of NHL players who prefer their pants to the new girdles.

  • Natron | July 24, 2007 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”123452″][quote comment=”123439″][quote comment=”123437″]I don’t see the outrage over the Pens jerseys. They have changed the design so much over the past few seasons, its hardly news that they did it again. Whats the difference between wierd gold stripes and weird gold side pannels. Neither look very good. Frankly, with all the excitement over last season, Crosby, Malkin, et al., I am suprised that the change was not more substantial. The changes they made probably won’t be noticed outside of UniWatch and hardcore Penguin fans.

    I really thought that they would go back to matching the Steelers colors after the arena deal got done.[/quote]

    Hardcore hockey fans (meaning me) want that yellow to come back. It matches not only the other pro sports franchises in Pittsburgh, but also the city’s flag. Vegas gold in hockey is stupid, especially when used as much as the Penguins are proposing to use it. The smaller stripes I can handle, but not the ridiculous panels and on the sleeves.[/quote]

    I don’t disagree, in fact, I emphatically agree. My point was I really don’t see much of a difference, better or worse, between the new and old jerseys.

    From my perspective, I always though that when the North Stars took the “North” off their jersey that was the beginning of the end of that franchise (In Minnesota at least). While I realize that the Penguins switched to Vegas Gold a while ago, it always had the same kind of feel to me. Now that the team is in Pittsburgh to stay, I think that switching back to athletic gold (yellow) would be nice (if sub-conscious) way of affirming the fact they are Pittsburgh’s hockey team, rather than a hockey team that plays in Pittsburgh.[/quote]

    The North Stars never has the word “North” on their jerseys. They wore the green “N” jerseys until 1991, then went to the black with just the word “Stars” in 1992-93, and when they moved to Dallas in 93 they kept the same jerseys for one season before adding the word “Dallas” to it.

    But your point stands… it was only 2 seasons after the change from the “N” jerseys before they left town, and Pittsburgh was in a similar boat up until a few months ago (although Penguin never left the jersey, unlike the Stars).

  • Joe Drennan | July 24, 2007 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”123408″]The astros will be honoring STS-120/10A tonight by having the crew through out the first pitch. Also the team will wear the mission patch on their hats. I’ll be going to the game tonight trying to receive one of the hat give-aways.

    Part of my job is to train the crew of this mission, so tonight should be a special night for us.[/quote]
    OK. Let me get this straight. You train astronauts? You’re officialy too smart for me so any bit of information you give here, opinoin or other wise, I’ll take as 100% true. At the same time, shouldn’t you be buisy training those astronauts right now what to do if a piece of styrofoam falls off the orbitor instead of reading this blog? Oh dear God, now I must pray.

  • Joe Drennan | July 24, 2007 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”123425″][quote comment=”123417″]I rehosted the Pens jerseys.

    Pants
    [/quote]

    The pants look like the shell that Reebok was hyping that go over a current set of equipment. Personally, I wouldn’t wear them. Another layer over top of my pants only will add to the problem of sweat evaporation.[/quote]
    A pant shell isn’t cumbersome at all. Many teams at lower levels use them so they don’t have to buy new pants for all their players, rather give them the shell to put over whatever pair of pants they already have. Many guys I’ve played with had them and dodn’t mind them at all. If fitted properly, they fit snugly over the pants and don’t impeed any movment.

    They also make great shorts for dry land training. When I was in college my school was phasing out our old NY Rangers syle pants for solid navy blue pants. They had a tone of shells left over so us players snagged em and wor ’em for dry land. I must say, we looked quite snazzy running the bluffs in them things.

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”123457″][quote comment=”123449″]
    Those shells need to be worn, they aren’t worn over a regular set of hockey pants, they cover up the girdle which looks like this. I wear a similar girdle and have different colored shells for each team i play for, helps make it easy to match unis, and the girdle has more protection in the hip area, and is very comfortable as well. This is not something new to hockey from rbk rather they are just making everyone wear them.[/quote]

    Not all players wear that girdle, though. Some still wear traditional pants, and the shell is supposed to be worn over the pants.

    While I realize that this isn’t something new from Reebok, I still would be against wearing a shell over top of my pants that do little to aid in keeping me dry. And there are lots of NHL players who prefer their pants to the new girdles.[/quote]

    Yes I know right now not all players wear the girdles but with the new RBK Edge system isn’t the whole thing about the fact that they all will have to wear them?

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 10:41 am |

    Also, if I’m wrong and they are not forcing everyone to wear them, then i am sure that there will be pants made with the team’s colors on them instead of forcing players to wear shells over pants

  • Roger Faso | July 24, 2007 at 10:41 am |

    Deadball game played in Oakland.

  • jesse | July 24, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”123459″][quote comment=”123452″][quote comment=”123439″][quote comment=”123437″]I don’t see the outrage over the Pens jerseys. They have changed the design so much over the past few seasons, its hardly news that they did it again. Whats the difference between wierd gold stripes and weird gold side pannels. Neither look very good. Frankly, with all the excitement over last season, Crosby, Malkin, et al., I am suprised that the change was not more substantial. The changes they made probably won’t be noticed outside of UniWatch and hardcore Penguin fans.

    I really thought that they would go back to matching the Steelers colors after the arena deal got done.[/quote]

    Hardcore hockey fans (meaning me) want that yellow to come back. It matches not only the other pro sports franchises in Pittsburgh, but also the city’s flag. Vegas gold in hockey is stupid, especially when used as much as the Penguins are proposing to use it. The smaller stripes I can handle, but not the ridiculous panels and on the sleeves.[/quote]

    I don’t disagree, in fact, I emphatically agree. My point was I really don’t see much of a difference, better or worse, between the new and old jerseys.

    From my perspective, I always though that when the North Stars took the “North” off their jersey that was the beginning of the end of that franchise (In Minnesota at least). While I realize that the Penguins switched to Vegas Gold a while ago, it always had the same kind of feel to me. Now that the team is in Pittsburgh to stay, I think that switching back to athletic gold (yellow) would be nice (if sub-conscious) way of affirming the fact they are Pittsburgh’s hockey team, rather than a hockey team that plays in Pittsburgh.[/quote]

    The North Stars never has the word “North” on their jerseys. They wore the green “N” jerseys until 1991, then went to the black with just the word “Stars” in 1992-93, and when they moved to Dallas in 93 they kept the same jerseys for one season before adding the word “Dallas” to it.

    But your point stands… it was only 2 seasons after the change from the “N” jerseys before they left town, and Pittsburgh was in a similar boat up until a few months ago (although Penguin never left the jersey, unlike the Stars).[/quote]

    I think that the colors are more important in Pittsburgh than the Penguin. In both instances, I thought it was a way to distance the team from its current location, and make it more generic, and marketable. The Dallas North Stars sounds stupid, but the Dallas Stars, you can see. In black and athletic gold they are Pittsburgh’s Penguins, in Black and metallic gold, they are just the Penguins.

    Changing the uniform made it all that much easier to visualize for the prospective buyer and new city. Think of it like painting all the walls in your house white, and taking down your personal photos when you are trying to sell your house.

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”123461″][quote comment=”123425″][quote comment=”123417″]I rehosted the Pens jerseys.

    Pants
    [/quote]

    The pants look like the shell that Reebok was hyping that go over a current set of equipment. Personally, I wouldn’t wear them. Another layer over top of my pants only will add to the problem of sweat evaporation.[/quote]
    A pant shell isn’t cumbersome at all. Many teams at lower levels use them so they don’t have to buy new pants for all their players, rather give them the shell to put over whatever pair of pants they already have. Many guys I’ve played with had them and dodn’t mind them at all. If fitted properly, they fit snugly over the pants and don’t impeed any movment.

    They also make great shorts for dry land training. When I was in college my school was phasing out our old NY Rangers syle pants for solid navy blue pants. They had a tone of shells left over so us players snagged em and wor ’em for dry land. I must say, we looked quite snazzy running the bluffs in them things.[/quote]

    Um… Joe, I never mentioned anything about them being cumbersome. I’ve used them in the past, and they don’t help with sweat evaporation over the old style of hockey pants.

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”123463″]Also, if I’m wrong and they are not forcing everyone to wear them, then i am sure that there will be pants made with the team’s colors on them instead of forcing players to wear shells over pants[/quote]

    Well, they are trying to get players to switch to Reebok equipment. However, players have marketing endorsements that they are signed to, and the pants’ shell would hide the CCM pants or Mission pants or whatever brand that some of these players use and endorse. Again, I wouldn’t use the shell if it were me… and I certainly don’t have any endorsement deals. :o)

    I have found that my pants barely breathe as it is, and by adding another layer, it would only make that harder. My pants are extremely comfortable, though.

  • todd krevanchi | July 24, 2007 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”123402″]Here’s an update on the “down payment for house in exchange for jersey #30″……….Ahman Green:

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Now thats a professional athlete. I hope more athletes follow suit with requests similar to this one when “selling” a number.

    A shame that this will be a 30 second blurb on ‘center while douche bags like adam jones, chris henry, tank johnson, and michael vick hog the headlines.

    not uni related, but appearance related. will vick join the above mentioned violators as those who shaved off their ‘rows or dreads once they had to make court appearances?

  • Joe Drennan | July 24, 2007 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”123466″][quote comment=”123461″][quote comment=”123425″][quote comment=”123417″]I rehosted the Pens jerseys.

    Pants
    [/quote]

    The pants look like the shell that Reebok was hyping that go over a current set of equipment. Personally, I wouldn’t wear them. Another layer over top of my pants only will add to the problem of sweat evaporation.[/quote]
    A pant shell isn’t cumbersome at all. Many teams at lower levels use them so they don’t have to buy new pants for all their players, rather give them the shell to put over whatever pair of pants they already have. Many guys I’ve played with had them and dodn’t mind them at all. If fitted properly, they fit snugly over the pants and don’t impeed any movment.

    They also make great shorts for dry land training. When I was in college my school was phasing out our old NY Rangers syle pants for solid navy blue pants. They had a tone of shells left over so us players snagged em and wor ’em for dry land. I must say, we looked quite snazzy running the bluffs in them things.[/quote]

    Um… Joe, I never mentioned anything about them being cumbersome. I’ve used them in the past, and they don’t help with sweat evaporation over the old style of hockey pants.[/quote]

    I know you didn’t mention them as cumbersome, but I figured some people not familiar with them might think they would be. As a goalie I nver had to worry about wearing them because for some reason teams never care if the goalie fits in with the team or not. In fact, for one spring league team I wore a Finland jersey the entire season because we didn’t have enough team jerseys to go around.

    Why a Finland jersey. We discovered our jersey shortage at our first game so I gave mine up, but didn’t have an extra with me. The only jersey anybody else had with them that was big enough was a Finald jersey. I played well so I wore it agian the next game and so on.

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”123469″][quote comment=”123463″]Also, if I’m wrong and they are not forcing everyone to wear them, then i am sure that there will be pants made with the team’s colors on them instead of forcing players to wear shells over pants[/quote]

    Well, they are trying to get players to switch to Reebok equipment. However, players have marketing endorsements that they are signed to, and the pants’ shell would hide the CCM pants or Mission pants or whatever brand that some of these players use and endorse. Again, I wouldn’t use the shell if it were me… and I certainly don’t have any endorsement deals. :o)

    I have found that my pants barely breathe as it is, and by adding another layer, it would only make that harder. My pants are extremely comfortable, though.[/quote]

    but as i am saying these players who have deals with other companies and will continue wearing those pants will not have to wear a shell over them, they will simply wear whatever pants they like with the team colors on them as they already do

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”123470″][quote comment=”123402″]Here’s an update on the “down payment for house in exchange for jersey #30″……….Ahman Green:

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Now thats a professional athlete. I hope more athletes follow suit with requests similar to this one when “selling” a number.

    A shame that this will be a 30 second blurb on ‘center while douche bags like adam jones, chris henry, tank johnson, and michael vick hog the headlines.
    [/quote]

    I agree, Todd. This is a story that should get a 10-15 minute piece at minimum. More feel-good stories should be expanded on like this.

  • Eric | July 24, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    Any market for Nike to introduce a Mike Vick line of dog accessories such as muzzles, leashes, collars, ect..? ; )

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”123471″][quote comment=”123466″][quote comment=”123461″][quote comment=”123425″][quote comment=”123417″]I rehosted the Pens jerseys.

    Pants
    [/quote]

    The pants look like the shell that Reebok was hyping that go over a current set of equipment. Personally, I wouldn’t wear them. Another layer over top of my pants only will add to the problem of sweat evaporation.[/quote]
    A pant shell isn’t cumbersome at all. Many teams at lower levels use them so they don’t have to buy new pants for all their players, rather give them the shell to put over whatever pair of pants they already have. Many guys I’ve played with had them and dodn’t mind them at all. If fitted properly, they fit snugly over the pants and don’t impeed any movment.

    They also make great shorts for dry land training. When I was in college my school was phasing out our old NY Rangers syle pants for solid navy blue pants. They had a tone of shells left over so us players snagged em and wor ’em for dry land. I must say, we looked quite snazzy running the bluffs in them things.[/quote]

    Um… Joe, I never mentioned anything about them being cumbersome. I’ve used them in the past, and they don’t help with sweat evaporation over the old style of hockey pants.[/quote]

    I know you didn’t mention them as cumbersome, but I figured some people not familiar with them might think they would be. As a goalie I nver had to worry about wearing them because for some reason teams never care if the goalie fits in with the team or not. In fact, for one spring league team I wore a Finland jersey the entire season because we didn’t have enough team jerseys to go around.

    Why a Finland jersey. We discovered our jersey shortage at our first game so I gave mine up, but didn’t have an extra with me. The only jersey anybody else had with them that was big enough was a Finald jersey. I played well so I wore it agian the next game and so on.[/quote]

    Ahhhhh… gotcha. :o)

  • Bryan | July 24, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    Couldnt find any photographic proof but it looks as if Carlos Guillen is flapping again. If anybody has the game from last night recorded check out the 5th inning at bat.

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”123475″]
    but as i am saying these players who have deals with other companies and will continue wearing those pants will not have to wear a shell over them, they will simply wear whatever pants they like with the team colors on them as they already do[/quote]

    Not in the new uniform system. Reebok paid a ridiculous amount of money to be the outfitter for the NHL. This includes pants, socks, helmets and gloves. Much like the All-Star Game last year in Dallas, Rbk Hockey will be everywhere on the players.

  • todd krevanchi | July 24, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”123477″]Any market for Nike to introduce a Mike Vick line of dog accessories such as muzzles, leashes, collars, ect..? ; )[/quote]

    well, these people are capitalizing on it already…
    http://search.ebay.c...

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”123480″][quote comment=”123475″]
    but as i am saying these players who have deals with other companies and will continue wearing those pants will not have to wear a shell over them, they will simply wear whatever pants they like with the team colors on them as they already do[/quote]

    Not in the new uniform system. Reebok paid a ridiculous amount of money to be the outfitter for the NHL. This includes pants, socks, helmets and gloves. Much like the All-Star Game last year in Dallas, Rbk Hockey will be everywhere on the players.[/quote]

    ok so that goes back to my first comment that the players will not be wearing the shells over regular pants, they are being forced to wear the reebok system, no matter what they wear now, or what they prefer to wear.

  • Broker75 | July 24, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    Well now that I’ve seen EA Sports’ NHL 08, I’m in the market. Those graphics are really good. Anybody know when it’s gonna be on the shelves?

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”123482″][quote comment=”123480″][quote comment=”123475″]
    but as i am saying these players who have deals with other companies and will continue wearing those pants will not have to wear a shell over them, they will simply wear whatever pants they like with the team colors on them as they already do[/quote]

    Not in the new uniform system. Reebok paid a ridiculous amount of money to be the outfitter for the NHL. This includes pants, socks, helmets and gloves. Much like the All-Star Game last year in Dallas, Rbk Hockey will be everywhere on the players.[/quote]

    ok so that goes back to my first comment that the players will not be wearing the shells over regular pants, they are being forced to wear the reebok system, no matter what they wear now, or what they prefer to wear.[/quote]

    The players, for the most part, will not break their endorsement contracts if they are being paid to use a certain brand. Do you think they want to be sued for breach of contract?

  • todd krevanchi | July 24, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”123479″]Couldnt find any photographic proof but it looks as if Carlos Guillen is flapping again. If anybody has the game from last night recorded check out the 5th inning at bat.[/quote]

    does anyone else see the pressing issue that the league has in this?

    at softball, everytime i take my batting gloves out of my right pocket (shorts in our league) the pocket flaps out because of the velcro. everytime.
    and the only reason i know is because i can see it.

    so if players keep their gloves in their back pockets and not in their helmet (like most do), wouldnt the same be true? that the velcro would pull the pocket out? but how would you know unless someone told you? you cant see your own ass!

    this is a uni-vio that players dont try on purpose.

  • Shadeymonk | July 24, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”123481″][quote comment=”123477″]Any market for Nike to introduce a Mike Vick line of dog accessories such as muzzles, leashes, collars, ect..? ; )[/quote]

    well, these people are capitalizing on it already…
    http://search.ebay.c...

    That is seriously fucked up

  • Joey Guns | July 24, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    Very cool Chief Wahoo logo golf balls are on Ebay right now:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”123484″][quote comment=”123482″][quote comment=”123480″][quote comment=”123475″]
    but as i am saying these players who have deals with other companies and will continue wearing those pants will not have to wear a shell over them, they will simply wear whatever pants they like with the team colors on them as they already do[/quote]

    Not in the new uniform system. Reebok paid a ridiculous amount of money to be the outfitter for the NHL. This includes pants, socks, helmets and gloves. Much like the All-Star Game last year in Dallas, Rbk Hockey will be everywhere on the players.[/quote]

    ok so that goes back to my first comment that the players will not be wearing the shells over regular pants, they are being forced to wear the reebok system, no matter what they wear now, or what they prefer to wear.[/quote]

    The players, for the most part, will not break their endorsement contracts if they are being paid to use a certain brand. Do you think they want to be sued for breach of contract?[/quote]

    Teebz listen to me make up your mind, are the players wearing all reebok stuff as you just said they would be or are they sticking with their own equipment from their equipment deals.
    IF they are forced to wear the reebok equipment they will be wearing the shells.
    IF they are not forced to wear the reebok equipment and are able to wear pants of their choice, they will be wearing those pants with no reebok shell.

  • BCrisp | July 24, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”123460″][quote comment=”123408″]The astros will be honoring STS-120/10A tonight by having the crew through out the first pitch. Also the team will wear the mission patch on their hats. I’ll be going to the game tonight trying to receive one of the hat give-aways.

    Part of my job is to train the crew of this mission, so tonight should be a special night for us.[/quote]
    OK. Let me get this straight. You train astronauts? You’re officialy too smart for me so any bit of information you give here, opinoin or other wise, I’ll take as 100% true. At the same time, shouldn’t you be buisy training those astronauts right now what to do if a piece of styrofoam falls off the orbitor instead of reading this blog? Oh dear God, now I must pray.[/quote]Yes, training Astronauts and Flight Controllers is part of my job. I know I have one of the coolest jobs ever.
    My specialty is more on the International Space Station. I’m bored at work right now testing new software for the ISS. Shouldn’t you be busy doing your job too?

  • Joe Drennan | July 24, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”123480″][quote comment=”123475″]
    but as i am saying these players who have deals with other companies and will continue wearing those pants will not have to wear a shell over them, they will simply wear whatever pants they like with the team colors on them as they already do[/quote]

    Not in the new uniform system. Reebok paid a ridiculous amount of money to be the outfitter for the NHL. This includes pants, socks, helmets and gloves. Much like the All-Star Game last year in Dallas, Rbk Hockey will be everywhere on the players.[/quote]
    They may have paid a lot, but players still have individual contracts for their own helmets, gloves, sticks and skates. Those particular pieces all have a different feel from manufactuer to manufactuer. I doub’t the NHL is going to mandate players go with one brand and that’s it, especialy when it comes to skates. In my experiance, you find a brand that fits good and stick with them. I’m a goalie and like Bauer skates. I think for forward skated Bauer runs wide, while CCM narrow. Then there are others like Mission and Graf out there as well as RBK. I’ve tried on the RBK helmet, while comfortable, if I could chose my own and get paid for it, I’d wear the Mission for it’s comfort to me and protection.

    I’ll have to look into see if this deal is a mandate, or if players will still have the opportunity to wear what they find comfortable. Anybody else with infor would be great too.

  • Shaneey | July 24, 2007 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”123485″][quote comment=”123479″]Couldnt find any photographic proof but it looks as if Carlos Guillen is flapping again. If anybody has the game from last night recorded check out the 5th inning at bat.[/quote]

    does anyone else see the pressing issue that the league has in this?

    at softball, everytime i take my batting gloves out of my right pocket (shorts in our league) the pocket flaps out because of the velcro. everytime.
    and the only reason i know is because i can see it.

    so if players keep their gloves in their back pockets and not in their helmet (like most do), wouldnt the same be true? that the velcro would pull the pocket out? but how would you know unless someone told you? you cant see your own ass!

    this is a uni-vio that players dont try on purpose.[/quote]

    Thanks to Shaneeys erlier post, here’s the vio:

    http://www.uniformvi...

    He’s gonna get the Bud hammer,now.

  • JoeKinski | July 24, 2007 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”123434″][quote comment=”123433″]Anyone see this word-mark on the San Jose Sharks page?

    http://assets.sjshar...

    That’s their old font. They’ve been using it quite sparingly since their first season.[/quote]

    That’s funny. I just realized I have an old Sharks hat with that logo on it in my hatbox… My dad bought it for me when they first started selling Sharks gear … I always thought it looked funky and I’d never really seen another one…

    Oh and Teebz, I love your blog … it’s gone up on my faves… – Joe

  • Joe Drennan | July 24, 2007 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”123489″][quote comment=”123460″][quote comment=”123408″]The astros will be honoring STS-120/10A tonight by having the crew through out the first pitch. Also the team will wear the mission patch on their hats. I’ll be going to the game tonight trying to receive one of the hat give-aways.

    Part of my job is to train the crew of this mission, so tonight should be a special night for us.[/quote]
    OK. Let me get this straight. You train astronauts? You’re officialy too smart for me so any bit of information you give here, opinoin or other wise, I’ll take as 100% true. At the same time, shouldn’t you be buisy training those astronauts right now what to do if a piece of styrofoam falls off the orbitor instead of reading this blog? Oh dear God, now I must pray.[/quote]Yes, training Astronauts and Flight Controllers is part of my job. I know I have one of the coolest jobs ever.
    My specialty is more on the International Space Station. I’m bored at work right now testing new software for the ISS. Shouldn’t you be busy doing your job too?[/quote]
    I should be, but I work in a corperate office for a finacial planning firm, so me slacking off means some training presentation takes longer to get done. You slacking off means an alien invasion of epic proportions.

  • kevin | July 24, 2007 at 11:14 am |

    Just so you know – Frank Baker was called “Home Run” because of two big WS HRs he hit off of Rube Marquard and Christy Mathewson to help the A’s win in 1911.

  • Joe Drennan | July 24, 2007 at 11:14 am |

    So the Sharks had a countdown till their new logo unveiling on their site, but now it’s at 0:00:00 and the old logo is still up. Go figure.

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”123500″]So the Sharks had a countdown till their new logo unveiling on their site, but now it’s at 0:00:00 and the old logo is still up. Go figure.[/quote]

    I’ve been thinking the same for over an hour now, but then i realized they will reveal it at 10 am pacific time looks like they set the countdown to eastern time

  • todd krevanchi | July 24, 2007 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”123486″][quote comment=”123481″][quote comment=”123477″]Any market for Nike to introduce a Mike Vick line of dog accessories such as muzzles, leashes, collars, ect..? ; )[/quote]

    well, these people are capitalizing on it already…
    http://search.ebay.c...

    That is seriously fucked up[/quote]

    capitalism baby… capitalism. i hope some make at least a donation to peta, humane societies, or other animal organizations with some of their proceeds… but i doubt it.

    did anyone happen to hear bob valvano’s interview with new falcon joe horn on friday.
    horn was trying to justify dog fighting.

    not a quote but…
    dont you think all animals should be created equal? (i think he meant to say should be treated equally but who am i to correct the great joe horn)
    whats the difference if this nfl player does dog fighting or if that nfl player shoots a deer?

    valvano was almost speechless… he got horn off the line and received a message from a listener about how when horn “had him on the ropes” he dumped the call.

    valvano’s response was classic. not a quote but…
    well folks, id rather not get into the whole philosophy of hunting and killing an animal for food versus training an animal solely for the sake of fighting it to kill against another who has been trained for the same purpose… just so you can wager on it. not to mention the grusome way these dogs were then killed when no longer usefull to the owners…

    please joe horn…

  • Felix | July 24, 2007 at 11:18 am |

    Jon Lester made his 2007 debut last night and was wearing jersey number 31 after wearing 62 last year. I don’t know if there is a specific reason for the switch. No screenshot.

    Lester in 2006

    Lester in 2007 (rehab start with Triple-AAA Pawtucket — I couldn’t find a screen shot from last night)

  • Joe Drennan | July 24, 2007 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”123501″][quote comment=”123500″]So the Sharks had a countdown till their new logo unveiling on their site, but now it’s at 0:00:00 and the old logo is still up. Go figure.[/quote]

    I’ve been thinking the same for over an hour now, but then i realized they will reveal it at 10 am pacific time looks like they set the countdown to eastern time[/quote]
    Damn California people. First they vote Arnold into office, then they support Paris Hilton, now this.

  • Shadeymonk | July 24, 2007 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”123501″][quote comment=”123500″]So the Sharks had a countdown till their new logo unveiling on their site, but now it’s at 0:00:00 and the old logo is still up. Go figure.[/quote]

    I’ve been thinking the same for over an hour now, but then i realized they will reveal it at 10 am pacific time looks like they set the countdown to eastern time[/quote]

    When I go to the site it still says there’s 40 minutes… since i’m in mountain time maybe its set to 10:00AM no matter where you are.

  • Kramer | July 24, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”123496″][quote comment=”123489″][quote comment=”123460″][quote comment=”123408″]The astros will be honoring STS-120/10A tonight by having the crew through out the first pitch. Also the team will wear the mission patch on their hats. I’ll be going to the game tonight trying to receive one of the hat give-aways.

    Part of my job is to train the crew of this mission, so tonight should be a special night for us.[/quote]
    OK. Let me get this straight. You train astronauts? You’re officialy too smart for me so any bit of information you give here, opinoin or other wise, I’ll take as 100% true. At the same time, shouldn’t you be buisy training those astronauts right now what to do if a piece of styrofoam falls off the orbitor instead of reading this blog? Oh dear God, now I must pray.[/quote]Yes, training Astronauts and Flight Controllers is part of my job. I know I have one of the coolest jobs ever.
    My specialty is more on the International Space Station. I’m bored at work right now testing new software for the ISS. Shouldn’t you be busy doing your job too?[/quote]
    I should be, but I work in a corperate office for a finacial planning firm, so me slacking off means some training presentation takes longer to get done. You slacking off means an alien invasion of epic proportions.[/quote]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?

  • todd krevanchi | July 24, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    that uniwatch mod player needs to be reposted today…
    it was classic!
    by the way what player was used as the template?

  • Broker75 | July 24, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”123504″][quote comment=”123501″][quote comment=”123500″]So the Sharks had a countdown till their new logo unveiling on their site, but now it’s at 0:00:00 and the old logo is still up. Go figure.[/quote]

    I’ve been thinking the same for over an hour now, but then i realized they will reveal it at 10 am pacific time looks like they set the countdown to eastern time[/quote]
    Damn California people. First they vote Arnold into office, then they support Paris Hilton, now this.[/quote]
    Now you’re getting personal.

  • Joe Drennan | July 24, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?

    You’re a good man. My father is a firefighter (actualy in his second day of training as a Battalion Chief for Chicago, and would be one myself if the city gave a test a lil more often than once every 15 years. You’re a brave soul and have an awsome job. Thank you for the work you do.

    Now go polish those fire poles, they don’t stay shiny on their own. Sorry, flashbacks to going to work with my dad.

    To answer you question of what we do, I work in corperate communications for a financial planning group, do freelance work for the Mpls St. Paul Magazine and when I can, coach high school hockey. (I’m taking a year off from coaching as I have a 5 month old daughter that’s a lil more important than hockey right now)

  • todd krevanchi | July 24, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”123506″]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]

    i always thought that we should have a virtual business rolodex for readers here.
    im in commercial insurance…

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”123488″]
    Teebz listen to me make up your mind, are the players wearing all reebok stuff as you just said they would be or are they sticking with their own

    equipment from their equipment deals.
    IF they are forced to wear the reebok equipment they will be wearing the shells.
    IF they are not forced to wear the reebok equipment and are able to wear pants of their choice, they will be wearing those pants with no reebok shell.[/quote]

    My mind is made up, Ken. You’re not listening.

    Reebok has paid to outfit the players. They have the exclusive rights to all the uniform pieces – socks, gloves, jerseys, pants, and helmets.

    Players have individual contracts with equipment companies. Those individual contracts must be honoured by the players as they were signed in good faith. As the pants are classified as equipment, the players are not required to wear the shells over their pants if they are signed to an equipment endorsement deal.

    However, since the uniform is worn over the equipment, the pants’ shell is supposed to be worn over the pants. If a player has an endorsement with an equipment company, that trumps the Reebok deal with the NHL.

    Players like Alexander Ovechkin, Joe Thornton, Vincent Lecavalier, Shane Doan, Alexander Steen, and Mark Recchi all have endorsement deals with CCM. They will all be wearing their CCM-branded equipment next year.

    Players like Darcy Tucker, Mark Parrish, Brian Rafalski, Marian Hossa, Brad Boyes, Mike Ribeiro, and Henrik Zetterberg have endorsement deals with Mission Hockey. They will all be wearing Mission-branded equipment next year.

    The problem is that the pants shell designs are property of Reebok as they own the rights to the uniform designs. Mission and CCM cannot reproduce the same design due to copyrights. Therefore, these pant shells should not be forced upon the players if not everyone will be wearing them.

  • Broker75 | July 24, 2007 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”123510″][quote comment=”123506″]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]

    i always thought that we should have a virtual business rolodex for readers here.
    im in commercial insurance…[/quote]
    I’m in personal lines todd, huh..

  • John in Athens | July 24, 2007 at 11:31 am |

    I’m a uniform geek.

  • Terri | July 24, 2007 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”123506″][quote comment=”123496″][quote comment=”123489″][quote comment=”123460″][quote comment=”123408″][/quote]
    quote]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]

    I just graduated college and am going to grad school for journalism…and seeing as they don’t pay you to be a permanent student, I work at Cracker Barrel.

  • Broker75 | July 24, 2007 at 11:36 am |

    The teams that really need a change in their uni’s are the Florida Panthers and Vancouver Canucks. These are such yawners. Florida has the worst in the league. As for San Jose, there 2006-’07 uni were the best they had, they really don’t need much tweaking. Penguins don’t need much either, more Steeler yellow for sure though. Flyers need to get rid of the black jersey as well as the Blackhawks.

  • todd krevanchi | July 24, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”123514″]
    I’m in personal lines todd, huh..[/quote]

    used to be in personal lines…

    [quote comment=”123515″]I’m a uniform geek.[/quote]

    good answer! would athletic aesthetistician be better?

  • Joe Drennan | July 24, 2007 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”123518″]The teams that really need a change in their uni’s are the Florida Panthers and Vancouver Canucks. These are such yawners. Florida has the worst in the league. As for San Jose, there 2006-’07 uni were the best they had, they really don’t need much tweaking. Penguins don’t need much either, more Steeler yellow for sure though. Flyers need to get rid of the black jersey as well as the Blackhawks.[/quote]
    As a Blackhawks fan I agree they need to lose the black jersey. At the same time they’re the only tema that’s added a black alternate that it makes sense for. If they want an alternate they need to go old school seen here http://nhluniforms.c... in the 91-92 season.

  • Broker75 | July 24, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”123520″][quote comment=”123514″]
    I’m in personal lines todd, huh..[/quote]

    used to be in personal lines…

    I finding that happens a lot in this industry, start in personal, then go commercial. I’m looking into going company side at the end of 2007.

  • Joe H | July 24, 2007 at 11:48 am |

    Man, the one day I’m late to work, and it’s my story!!!!

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 11:48 am |
  • Cork Gaines | July 24, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    In Leigh Montville’s biography of Babe Ruth (Big Bam) there is a picture of Babe Ruth from his teenage days in which he is holding a right-handed catchers mitt.

  • Broker75 | July 24, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”123521″][quote comment=”123518″]The teams that really need a change in their uni’s are the Florida Panthers and Vancouver Canucks. These are such yawners. Florida has the worst in the league. As for San Jose, there 2006-’07 uni were the best they had, they really don’t need much tweaking. Penguins don’t need much either, more Steeler yellow for sure though. Flyers need to get rid of the black jersey as well as the Blackhawks.[/quote]
    As a Blackhawks fan I agree they need to lose the black jersey. At the same time they’re the only tema that’s added a black alternate that it makes sense for. If they want an alternate they need to go old school seen here http://nhluniforms.c... in the 91-92 season.[/quote]
    Those ’91-’92 throwbacks were good. Don’t think they fit the RBK Edge system(or whatever the hell it’s called..)

  • Joe H | July 24, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    I would love to see stadium tour pics from other places too, so if you’ve got ’em – post ’em

  • Shadeymonk | July 24, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    Does anyone know if the Avalanche plan to significantly change their unis?

  • WVU Tom | July 24, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    Joe (and anyone else in the Baltimore area),

    If you haven’t been there yet, the Babe Ruth Birthplace museum has some great uni exhibits as well (at least it did the last time I was there–unfortunately, I didn’t have a camera). It’s a very small exhibit about a block away from Camden Yards, but is definately a recommended stop if visiting the Sports Legends galleries as well.

  • Andrew | July 24, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    Curtis Granderson had a great entry in his blog yesterday about the Negro League Uniforms and how he tries to wear his everyday uniform as close as possible to the way it was worn back then:

    On Saturday, we played a throwback game and wore the Detroit Stars’ uniforms. I really look forward to those days because I really love the uniforms.

    I try to get my current Tigers uniform to look like those old Negro League ones, but mine isn’t baggy enough. When we do get the Negro Leagues’ uniforms, I try my best to get the baggiest one that won’t fall off me. I pull my pants up as high as I can right to my knees, and maybe slightly over them, to make the thighs look even baggier.

    Finally, I take my hat and make it look very used and wrinkled, similar to how Willie Horton wore his hat back in the 60’s. I always try to get a picture in that uniform every time we get to wear them. Even though those uniforms look extremely big, they are really comfortable, and I would like to play in something like that all the time if we could.

    Now we are back to our normal Tigers uniforms today, playing on the road in my hometown of Chicago. But I still will be wearing my uniform as close to the Negro Leagues’ style as I can.

  • Jen | July 24, 2007 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”123532″]Joe (and anyone else in the Baltimore area),

    If you haven’t been there yet, the Babe Ruth Birthplace museum has some great uni exhibits as well (at least it did the last time I was there–unfortunately, I didn’t have a camera). It’s a very small exhibit about a block away from Camden Yards, but is definately a recommended stop if visiting the Sports Legends galleries as well.[/quote]

    I was there a few years ago. It was a neat little place. I’ll try to find my pictures when I get home.

  • C.N. | July 24, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”123517″][quote comment=”123506″][quote comment=”123496″][quote comment=”123489″][quote comment=”123460″][quote comment=”123408″][/quote]
    quote]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]

    I just graduated college and am going to grad school for journalism…and seeing as they don’t pay you to be a permanent student, I work at Cracker Barrel.[/quote]

    Cool. I’m an undergrad journalism major.

  • Patrick | July 24, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    Go Curtis Granderson!

  • Anthony Verna | July 24, 2007 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”123510″][quote comment=”123506″]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]

    i always thought that we should have a virtual business rolodex for readers here.
    im in commercial insurance…[/quote]

    Todd knows (and many of you do by now) that I practice trademark and copyright law.

  • Bob A | July 24, 2007 at 12:14 pm |

    Joe, thats a great entry. Those Baltimore pix made this Baltimore native quite homesick. I still have not been to the museum, I’ll remedy that on my next trip back east.

  • C.N. | July 24, 2007 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”123540″][quote comment=”123517″][quote comment=”123506″][quote comment=”123496″][quote comment=”123489″][quote comment=”123460″][quote comment=”123408″][/quote]
    quote]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]

    I just graduated college and am going to grad school for journalism…and seeing as they don’t pay you to be a permanent student, I work at Cracker Barrel.[/quote]

    Cool. I’m an undergrad journalism major.[/quote]

  • Boston Nick | July 24, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    Curtis Granderson gets an enthusiastic thumbs up from me, especially since he is a guy who knows a little about who came before him. The uni thing is cool, but knowing he’s a guy who has respect for the men who came before him as players is even cooler.

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 12:18 pm |


    trying to end the italics

  • WVU Tom | July 24, 2007 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”123542″][quote comment=”123510″][quote comment=”123506″]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]

    i always thought that we should have a virtual business rolodex for readers here.
    im in commercial insurance…[/quote]

    Todd knows (and many of you do by now) that I practice trademark and copyright law.[/quote]

    IT network engineer for The DoD/Pentagon.

  • WVU Tom | July 24, 2007 at 12:22 pm |

  • WVU Tom | July 24, 2007 at 12:22 pm |

    Italics gone?

  • WVU Tom | July 24, 2007 at 12:23 pm |

    Guess not…

  • WVU Tom | July 24, 2007 at 12:23 pm |

    This should do it.

  • UW justin | July 24, 2007 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”123547″][quote comment=”123542″][quote comment=”123510″][quote comment=”123506″]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]

    i always thought that we should have a virtual business rolodex for readers here.
    im in commercial insurance…[/quote]

    Todd knows (and many of you do by now) that I practice trademark and copyright law.[/quote]

    IT network engineer for The DoD/Pentagon.

    [/quote]
    Corporate Financial Accountant for a heavy civil construction company

  • Vince Grzegorek | July 24, 2007 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”123547″][quote comment=”123542″][quote comment=”123510″][quote comment=”123506″]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]

    i always thought that we should have a virtual business rolodex for readers here.
    im in commercial insurance…[/quote]

    Todd knows (and many of you do by now) that I practice trademark and copyright law.[/quote]

    IT network engineer for The DoD/Pentagon.

    [/quote]
    End?

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”123551″]This should do it.[/quote]

    maybe?

  • Dane | July 24, 2007 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”123452″][quote comment=”123439″][quote comment=”123437″]They have changed the design so much over the past few seasons, its hardly news that they did it again. The changes they made probably won’t be noticed outside of UniWatch and hardcore Penguin fans.

    I really thought that they would go back to matching the Steelers colors after the arena deal got done.[/quote]

    Hardcore hockey fans (meaning me) want that yellow to come back. It matches not only the other pro sports franchises in Pittsburgh, but also the city’s flag. Vegas gold in hockey is stupid, especially when used as much as the Penguins are proposing to use it. The smaller stripes I can handle, but not the ridiculous panels and on the sleeves.[/quote]

    Now that the team is in Pittsburgh to stay, I think that switching back to athletic gold (yellow) would be nice (if sub-conscious) way of affirming the fact they are Pittsburgh’s hockey team, rather than a hockey team that plays in Pittsburgh.[/quote]

    We all realize that this discussion never happens about any other North American city. Pittsburgh has its “tribal colors”, but no one else has gone down that path.

    As we all know by studying nhluniforms.com, black and gold are not the original Penguins colors. They switched over to ride the wave of success by the Steelers, Pirates and Spirit (yes, the MISL team also wore black and gold – but you knew that already).

    It’s all a moot point, however. If you say “Black & Gold” in Pittsburgh, there is only one team to which you are referring, and they have five Vince Lombardi trophies on display.

    Personally, I’m much happier wearing the Vegas gold. It’s subtle, unlike the Cup-era sweaters.

  • Jill | July 24, 2007 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”123542″][quote comment=”123510″][quote comment=”123506″]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]

    i always thought that we should have a virtual business rolodex for readers here.
    im in commercial insurance…[/quote]

    Todd knows (and many of you do by now) that I practice trademark and copyright law.[/quote]

    Scientist in the petrochemical industry.

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    Apparently, Uni Watch doesn’t like my answer to Ken. It won’t let me post it. I’ve tried five times now, and it has a total of zero links in it. :o)

  • Drew from AU | July 24, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    I’m a student at Auburn who is majoring in PR and works in the Sports Information Office

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”123488″]
    Teebz listen to me make up your mind….
    [/quote]

    Ken, here’s the deal. Reebok paid the NHL a ridiculous amount of money to be the UNIFORM outfitter for the NHL. The pants are considered EQUIPMENT, which is why they created the shells to go over the pants.

    The problem is that since the players are free to choose their equipment, the shells seem to be a waste of time and money. This is where equipment endorsement contracts will destroy the whole “uniform system” bullcrap that Rbk Hockey introduced.

    Players like Alexander Ovechkin, Joe Thornton, Mark Recchi, Vincent Lecavalier, Shane Doan, and Alexander Steen all have CCM-branded endorsement contracts. Since CCM and the player have signed in good faith to wear their product and logo on the ice, the Rbk Hockey shells cannot be worn over top of the pants. The pants, in turn, cannot be modified to look like the shells as Rbk Hockey owns the copyright on the uniform designs, and this would mean that CCM would have to pay Rbk to design a pair of hockey pants for its player just so it fit the “uniform system”. I highly doubt that CCM, who lost the NHL jersey contract, would want to pay Reebok anything.

    This is the same for Mission hockey. They have Darcy Tucker, Brian Rafalski, Brad Boyes, Henrik Zetterberg, Mark Parrish, Marian Hossa, and Mike Ribeiro under contract to endorse their equipment.

    Easton has Milan Hejduk, Sergei Gonchar, Joe Sakic, and approximately 300 other players using their equipment.

    How stupid are the pants’ shells? At this point, they are extremely stupid.

  • Dane | July 24, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?

    Chemist.

  • Kyle O. | July 24, 2007 at 12:43 pm |

    Law Student/Law Clerk

  • Chad G | July 24, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    Mechanical Engineer

  • jsdryden | July 24, 2007 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”123560″][quote comment=”123542″][quote comment=”123510″][quote comment=”123506″]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]

    i always thought that we should have a virtual business rolodex for readers here.
    im in commercial insurance…[/quote]

    Todd knows (and many of you do by now) that I practice trademark and copyright law.[/quote]

    Scientist in the petrochemical industry.[/quote]

    I work in Approvals and Certifications for a Wire and Cable manufacturer, and volunteer as an off ice official for the Ontario Hockey League.

  • joe | July 24, 2007 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”123424″]The Penguins’ jerseys can still be seen on my blog. The Penguins have not contacted me yet, so check them out if you like.[/quote]

    I prefer the vomit taste in my mouth from seeing that atrocity of a jersey better than the jersey itself.

  • Mike | July 24, 2007 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”123529″]I would love to see stadium tour pics from other places too, so if you’ve got ’em – post ’em[/quote]

    Fenway: http://public.fotki....

    Turner: http://public.fotki....

  • Joe H | July 24, 2007 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”123580″][quote comment=”123529″]I would love to see stadium tour pics from other places too, so if you’ve got ’em – post ’em[/quote]

    Fenway: http://public.fotki....

    Turner: http://public.fotki....

    Haha…thos are the only 2 other Stadiums I have done! Surprisingly, I really liked Turner.

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 1:03 pm |
  • Chase | July 24, 2007 at 1:04 pm |

    Healthcare Marketing Director

  • Nael M. | July 24, 2007 at 1:04 pm |

    After a minute of delay, new Sharks logo and website up:

    http://sharks.nhl.co...

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 1:04 pm |
  • UW justin | July 24, 2007 at 1:04 pm |

    10:05am PST and nothing new at http://www.sjsharks....

  • jordan skipper | July 24, 2007 at 1:05 pm |

    official new shark logo

  • Joe Drennan | July 24, 2007 at 1:05 pm |

    Hurry over to the Sharks site they’ve unveiled theri new logo…wait, we’ve already seen it and it’s still going to take some getting used to. It’s growing on me, but we’ll have to see how it looks on their sweater.

  • UW justin | July 24, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”123587″]10:05am PST and nothing new at http://www.sjsharks....

    apparently, that’s not a link that’s automatically forwarding…

  • Orlandor | July 24, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    High School History Teacher and Head Coach of the Boys Varsity Soccer and Golf Teams.

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    heres a slideshow of all of the new logos for the sharks. they really love the orange (check out the crest)

  • Ron | July 24, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    New Sharks logo and web site.

  • Shadeymonk | July 24, 2007 at 1:14 pm |

    This link should work for the slideshow:

    http://sharks.nhl.co...

  • jordan skipper | July 24, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    Alt sharks logos here,

  • Vince Grzegorek | July 24, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”123561″]Apparently, Uni Watch doesn’t like my answer to Ken. It won’t let me post it. I’ve tried five times now, and it has a total of zero links in it. :o)[/quote]

    Teebz— just found your post (6 times) in the spam and recovered it… should be up now… comment number 122.

    Sorry.

  • Shaftman | July 24, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”123598″]This link should work for the slideshow:

    http://sharks.nhl.co...

    The shield logo is sweet (IMHO).

  • Mike | July 24, 2007 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”123582″][quote comment=”123580″][quote comment=”123529″]I would love to see stadium tour pics from other places too, so if you’ve got ’em – post ’em[/quote]

    Fenway: http://public.fotki....

    Turner: http://public.fotki....

    Haha…thos are the only 2 other Stadiums I have done! Surprisingly, I really liked Turner.[/quote]

    I have a bunch of other stadiums on that webstie as well; Mountaineer Stadium, PNC Park, McAffee, Pac Bell, Miller, Camden Yards….they are just not all tours so I did not post links.

  • DJ | July 24, 2007 at 1:24 pm |

    According to the Sharks website, Terry Smith, the designer of the original Sharks logo, did all the new ones. Interesting that he got to re-visit his previous work…

  • Jeff W | July 24, 2007 at 1:25 pm |

    I like the revamped sharks logo. I think it’s a nice update, especially bringing the full shark into some of the logos and the shield is cool, too.

    Not all that fond of the wordmark font though.

  • Ray | July 24, 2007 at 1:31 pm |

    Investment Banker

  • ThresherK | July 24, 2007 at 1:35 pm |

    Is Babe Ruth’s school glove handedness staring us in the face?

    As a Catholic-raised lefty who is young enough to not have my sinister hand tied behind my back, I wonder how many gloves for the right hand St. Mary’s School in Baltimore, a Catholic school in the early 20th century, would have.

  • Kerry | July 24, 2007 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”123489″]Yes, training Astronauts and Flight Controllers is part of my job. I know I have one of the coolest jobs ever.
    My specialty is more on the International Space Station. I’m bored at work right now testing new software for the ISS. Shouldn’t you be busy doing your job too?[/quote]
    Oh….so if the ISS falls out of the sky like Mir we know who to blame!

    I’m a commercial portfolio manager for a bank/credit card company (what they like to call a “Financial Services Company”).

  • Joe Drennan | July 24, 2007 at 1:38 pm |

    I think the new sharks logo is one that will grow on most of us. The old one seemed crism and clean with some flaws, but overll not too bad. This new one cleans up some of the old flaws and updates the look.

    I hated the new logo at first but it’s quickly growing on me, especialy since I’ve seen some of the alternate logos that accompany it.

  • Frank Mercogliano | July 24, 2007 at 1:38 pm |

    Assistant A.D. for Media Relations at Idaho State, but I prefer Paul’s title form me…Idaho State Media Czar!

    Frank

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”123601″][quote comment=”123561″]Apparently, Uni Watch doesn’t like my answer to Ken. It won’t let me post it. I’ve tried five times now, and it has a total of zero links in it. :o)[/quote]

    Teebz— just found your post (6 times) in the spam and recovered it… should be up now… comment number 122.

    Sorry.[/quote]

    No problem, Vince. Thanks for your help. I assume it’s due to the length, correct?

  • Ray | July 24, 2007 at 1:41 pm |

    A tidbit about the Sports Legends Museum and the Geppi’s Entertainment Museum — Steve Geppi is the owner of both and a partial owner of the Baltimore Orioles. If any of you are ever in the Baltimore area, I highly recommend a visit to both. Lot’s of cool stuff. Steve has great access to sports memoribilia (?) thru his Orioles connections and entertainment stuff thru his comic book distributor company Diamond Comics. He’s a genuine fan as well.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | July 24, 2007 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”123542″][quote comment=”123510″][quote comment=”123506″]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]

    i always thought that we should have a virtual business rolodex for readers here.
    im in commercial insurance…[/quote]

    Todd knows (and many of you do by now) that I practice trademark and copyright law.[/quote]

    I’m in materials management for a major heavy-duty truck manufacturer – I tell people that “I shop for a living” – and part-time brewer (the beer kind, not the Milwaukee kind)

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 1:42 pm |

    ok teebz now that you’ve clarified, i absolutely agree, no need for the shells, if they aren’t going to let others use that design. I have worn a shell over pants before i got my girdle, and where it wont be a huge deal, its still stupid and unnecessary, you’re right reebok really f-ed that up

  • Morgan Doninger | July 24, 2007 at 1:42 pm |

    Bookeeper for a company that sell tickets to Broadway and Off-Broadway show. Groups department, mostly. Sounds like a yawn, but I get offered two free tickets to just abount every show that is getting ready to open, so that’s a nice perk.

  • S Bennett | July 24, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    The pants look like the shell that Reebok was hyping that go over a current set of equipment. Personally, I wouldn’t wear them. Another layer over top of my pants only will add to the problem of sweat evaporation.[/quote]
    A pant shell isn’t cumbersome at all. Many teams at lower levels use them so they don’t have to buy new pants for all their players, rather give them the shell to put over whatever pair of pants they already have. Many guys I’ve played with had them and dodn’t mind them at all. If fitted properly, they fit snugly over the pants and don’t impeed any movment.

    Not all players wear that girdle, though. Some still wear traditional pants, and the shell is supposed to be worn over the pants.

    While I realize that this isn’t something new from Reebok, I still would be against wearing a shell over top of my pants that do little to aid in keeping me dry. And there are lots of NHL players who prefer their pants to the new girdles.[/quote]

    This whole duscussion baffles me because traditional hockey pants are a two piece construction. Thet’rs the protection and the Aesthetics. CCM Supra, a very popular pant inteh NHL has buttons all aound it so that you can extract the protection, all part of the kidney protectors from the breezers.

    This picture of Richter doesn’t show him with a shell over the existing pant, it shows an entirely new breezer with the same protection he’d have in his Rangers pants. You can buy a shell that goes over the entire pant, but NHL’ers would use true breezers, that button on instead of the old ones, and have compartments for your pads to slide into, ensuring a trusty fit.

  • DenverGregg | July 24, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    Business manager for a non-profit hospital.

  • Anthony Verna | July 24, 2007 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”123564″]I’m a student at Auburn who is majoring in PR and works in the Sports Information Office[/quote]

    I’ve had dates with two different redheads from Auburn. What does that say about me?

  • Anthony Verna | July 24, 2007 at 1:47 pm |

    The debut of the re-designed, more intimidating logo coincides with the launch of the new Rbk EDGE Uniform System

    Am I the only one out there who doesn’t think that a player’s performance might be influenced by the logo being more “intimidating”?

  • ross | July 24, 2007 at 1:48 pm |

    the sharks logos look great, and it’s important to note that they put a lot of emphasis on the entire package and not just one logo. the orange works fine with the teal. additionally, the shark itself looks great, a mix of old school hand-drawn logos the graphic-designer style most teams take now. but the single shark fin logo looks too reminiscent of the padres logo

  • Frank Mercogliano | July 24, 2007 at 1:51 pm |

    well, if mascot costumes are uniform related…this is a good one from the Seattle Post-Intellegencer…

    Chief Kerlikowske breaks up ‘bizarre’ street fight
    Chief protects sprawled eagle

    By LEVI PULKKINEN
    P-I REPORTER

    Note: This story has been altered. Seattle Police spokeswoman Debra Brown’s first name was originally misspelled. Additionally, Brown did not make a statement attributed to her that charges would not be filed in the disturbance. The prosecutor’s office, not the police department, makes charging decisions. No charges have been filed in the case.

    Who knew Chief Gil Kerlikowske was a bird lover?

    During a last-call stroll through Pioneer Square early Sunday morning, Seattle’s top law dog helped break up a sidewalk fight between a bar patron and a man in an eagle suit.

    Lt. Kenneth Hicks, shift commander at the precinct that includes Pioneer Square, was leading Kerlikowske on a closing-time tour of the club district when the senior officers witnessed a man-on-eagle fracas, according to police documents.

    The officers watched as a 30-year-old Seattle man shoved the eagle to the curb and then stomped on the costumed man’s back as the eagle’s costumed confederate — a man dressed as a beaver — looked on.

    Four patrol officers rushed to the scene, at the corner of First Avenue South and South Washington Street, and secured the three men. None was injured, and all were later released without citations.

    Several mascots from Northwest universities had been at Pioneer Square on Saturday afternoon for a competition during the Fire Festival.

    While a police spokesman couldn’t confirm the identity of those involved, police records list the eagle’s hometown as Cheney — home to the Eastern Washington University Eagles. The beaver hailed from Corvallis, Ore., abode of the Beavers of Oregon State University.

    Police Department spokeswoman Debra Brown said that when she spoke with Kerlikowske earlier this week, he described the incident as “bizarre.” Kerlikowske was traveling Wednesday and could not be reached for comment.

    Brown said Kerlikowske had been accompanying Mayor Greg Nickels on a fact-finding excursion to the sometimes-raucous area. Kerlikowske and Nickels wanted to experience last call firsthand.

    Witnesses told police the costumed men had been jumping into traffic and harassing people on the sidewalk. The costume-clad men admitted to police that they had been jumping around the bar patron, but disputed the other man’s claim that the eagle had landed on his back.

    “It’s a typical downtown Seattle, after-the-bars-close story,” Brown joked.

  • Broker75 | July 24, 2007 at 1:52 pm |

    My work computer doesn’t have sound so I missed all audio on the Sharks’ video. Is the shark biting the hockey stick going front centre on the jersey? Are the shark fins shoulder patches? What’s up with the shield with the full body shark? That would look pretty cool front and centre in my opinion, but maybe to minor league-ish. But the shield logo is nice, are they using it? One thing I do not like is the style of writing for ‘San Jose Sharks’.

  • Anthony Verna | July 24, 2007 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”123570″][quote comment=”123488″]
    Teebz listen to me make up your mind….
    [/quote]

    Ken, here’s the deal. Reebok paid the NHL a ridiculous amount of money to be the UNIFORM outfitter for the NHL. The pants are considered EQUIPMENT, which is why they created the shells to go over the pants.

    The problem is that since the players are free to choose their equipment, the shells seem to be a waste of time and money. This is where equipment endorsement contracts will destroy the whole “uniform system” bullcrap that Rbk Hockey introduced.

    Players like Alexander Ovechkin, Joe Thornton, Mark Recchi, Vincent Lecavalier, Shane Doan, and Alexander Steen all have CCM-branded endorsement contracts. Since CCM and the player have signed in good faith to wear their product and logo on the ice, the Rbk Hockey shells cannot be worn over top of the pants. The pants, in turn, cannot be modified to look like the shells as Rbk Hockey owns the copyright on the uniform designs, and this would mean that CCM would have to pay Rbk to design a pair of hockey pants for its player just so it fit the “uniform system”. I highly doubt that CCM, who lost the NHL jersey contract, would want to pay Reebok anything.

    This is the same for Mission hockey. They have Darcy Tucker, Brian Rafalski, Brad Boyes, Henrik Zetterberg, Mark Parrish, Marian Hossa, and Mike Ribeiro under contract to endorse their equipment.

    Easton has Milan Hejduk, Sergei Gonchar, Joe Sakic, and approximately 300 other players using their equipment.

    How stupid are the pants’ shells? At this point, they are extremely stupid.[/quote]

    You’re going to hate me. . .

    In the United States, courts have been reluctant to grant copyright protection to clothing, but there is scope for copyright protection of garments that contain elements reflecting the designer’s artistic judgment, if that judgment is not affected by functional considerations.

    http://knitty.com/IS...

    I’m going to run away now.

  • Stuby | July 24, 2007 at 1:52 pm |

    Geodetic/GPS Surveyor with an aerial mapping company

  • Anthony Verna | July 24, 2007 at 1:53 pm |

    Hey Vince, I put up a post that might have been eaten by the spam-monster.

  • Brian | July 24, 2007 at 1:57 pm |

    While we’re on the NHL, does anyone have a read on what the Flyers’ new jersey design will look like?

  • Vince Grzegorek | July 24, 2007 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”123635″]Hey Vince, I put up a post that might have been eaten by the spam-monster.[/quote]

    Done and done.

  • Vince Grzegorek | July 24, 2007 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”123616″][quote comment=”123601″][quote comment=”123561″]Apparently, Uni Watch doesn’t like my answer to Ken. It won’t let me post it. I’ve tried five times now, and it has a total of zero links in it. :o)[/quote]

    Teebz— just found your post (6 times) in the spam and recovered it… should be up now… comment number 122.

    Sorry.[/quote]

    No problem, Vince. Thanks for your help. I assume it’s due to the length, correct?[/quote]

    Yeah, that was quite the hefty comment. That’s why. The spam control should “learn” as it goes, according to Paul, so it should recognize your name and email by now, but oh well.

  • Teebz | July 24, 2007 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”123619″]ok teebz now that you’ve clarified, i absolutely agree, no need for the shells, if they aren’t going to let others use that design. I have worn a shell over pants before i got my girdle, and where it wont be a huge deal, its still stupid and unnecessary, you’re right reebok really f-ed that up[/quote]

    Yeah, I realized that I wasn’t entirely clear before. I just think that Reebok has out-manoeuvred themselves on this one. In creating a uniform system, they’ve actually forced players away from using the new girdle and shell by allowing them to choose their own equipment.

    As for the Supras, they are designed like that for a reason. The shells that Reebok has designed just slide over top of the current pants. From what I understand (and I may be wrong here having not seen the shells in person), the shells don’t have any places for padding to be inserted.

  • slam | July 24, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    CCM (which also owned Koho and Jofa) is now owned by RBK just like Bauer is now owned by Nike. Both companies have kept the CCM and Bauer names around because hockey player are fairly traditional and loyal to their brands over the years. Therefore, RBK simply “inherited” the CCM/Koho jersey contract.

    If there is copyright issues with the stripes on pants, I’m sure the CCM guys could get around them. Players have been wearing the pants they want for years and I cannot see it changing now without the union putting up a fuss.

    Girdles have been around for ages and actually had quite a following at the minor and junior levels. Every team wore cooperalls. From personal experience, traditional type mpdern hockey pants are much cooler than the girdles as they allow arir to flow between the padding and the body. While the lycra material of the girdles that hold everything together allow for decent air flow, the foam and plastic that make up the padding act like insulation and trap heat next to the body.

    Every player today would still be wearing them with the short shells if they had any great advantage over pants.

  • CJ | July 24, 2007 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”123636″]While we’re on the NHL, does anyone have a read on what the Flyers’ new jersey design will look like?[/quote]

    There was a shot of the back of a uni from an interview of Gagne that looked like it may be the new uni, but the only thing different to be seen was a little orange on the sleeves of a black uni.

    I’ll be going to the official unveiling on Sept 16.

  • Dom | July 24, 2007 at 2:16 pm |

    check out the louisville bats camo uni on ebay

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Kerry | July 24, 2007 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”123628″]The debut of the re-designed, more intimidating logo coincides with the launch of the new Rbk EDGE Uniform System

    Am I the only one out there who doesn’t think that a player’s performance might be influenced by the logo being more “intimidating”?[/quote]
    Nope. I’m right there with you! I really hate when teams ditch their old logos and use the excuse that they wanted to make their identity more “intimidating”.

    That being said. I like the change in the Sharks’ logo. I thought the old one looked somewhat unprofessional.

  • Joe Drennan | July 24, 2007 at 2:18 pm |

    As mentioned earlier breezers/pants in hockey have buttons around the top, but those buttonos aren’t for adding extra paddings or anything like that. They’re anchors for suspenders. Some hockey players prefer suspenders, others have faither in theri belts. many goalies go with the suspenders to help hold their chest protector in place. (I use an old skate lace through a loop in the belly area of the chest protector to anchor it to my belt loops.

    These buttons also allow for an anchor point for shells like the RBK one we see in the Pens pictures.

    I think the girdle system with a shell may have led to the thought that the buttons were there for other reasons.

  • Dan Winter | July 24, 2007 at 2:24 pm |

    Superintendent of Schools

  • Steve B | July 24, 2007 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”123402″]Here’s an update on the “down payment for house in exchange for jersey #30″……….Ahman Green:

    http://sports.espn.g...

    What’s intersting to me about this story is that Green is getting all the kudos, and looking like the great guy, when he would have been out the money anyway, whether he donates it to a single mom, or pays Jason Simmons the money. Heck, Simmons probably could have gotten more than $25k from Green, so he’s getting off easy.

    It is actually Jason Simmons who is the hero in this case. He is the one who is essentially donating the $25k. He could just have had Green pay him for the number and done with it what he wanted. Instead Simmons is the one is forgoing the payday to help this woman and her son out.

    I think Jason Simmons should be getting more credit for this idea than he is.

    Steve B

  • Anthony Verna | July 24, 2007 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”123637″][quote comment=”123635″]Hey Vince, I put up a post that might have been eaten by the spam-monster.[/quote]

    Done and done.[/quote]

    Merci, fellow Case alumnus.

  • Richard S. | July 24, 2007 at 2:42 pm |

    Boston Harbor Pilot – used to be a ship captain.

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 2:43 pm |

    Could we see another apron when the sharks release their jersey?

  • Ryan Hemminger | July 24, 2007 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”123452″][quote comment=”123439″][quote comment=”123437″]I don’t see the outrage over the Pens jerseys. They have changed the design so much over the past few seasons, its hardly news that they did it again. Whats the difference between wierd gold stripes and weird gold side pannels. Neither look very good. Frankly, with all the excitement over last season, Crosby, Malkin, et al., I am suprised that the change was not more substantial. The changes they made probably won’t be noticed outside of UniWatch and hardcore Penguin fans.

    I really thought that they would go back to matching the Steelers colors after the arena deal got done.[/quote]

    Hardcore hockey fans (meaning me) want that yellow to come back. It matches not only the other pro sports franchises in Pittsburgh, but also the city’s flag. Vegas gold in hockey is stupid, especially when used as much as the Penguins are proposing to use it. The smaller stripes I can handle, but not the ridiculous panels and on the sleeves.[/quote]

    I don’t disagree, in fact, I emphatically agree. My point was I really don’t see much of a difference, better or worse, between the new and old jerseys.

    From my perspective, I always though that when the North Stars took the “North” off their jersey that was the beginning of the end of that franchise (In Minnesota at least). While I realize that the Penguins switched to Vegas Gold a while ago, it always had the same kind of feel to me. Now that the team is in Pittsburgh to stay, I think that switching back to athletic gold (yellow) would be nice (if sub-conscious) way of affirming the fact they are Pittsburgh’s hockey team, rather than a hockey team that plays in Pittsburgh.[/quote]

    Interesting point about changing the color back to athletic yellow as a way of reaffirming the Pens are in Pittsburgh to stay. I agree that they should go back to the old version of gold. That’s how they looked when they won the Cups, and that’s how they should look when they win it again.

    The biggest problem I have with the leaked jersey, however, is that the Vegas gold looks like kachi or tan. It’s doesn’t look gold at all.

  • Dan | July 24, 2007 at 2:49 pm |

    Actor, Independent Filmmaker, Sports Blogger…oh and Human Resources Specialist. (Needless to say, the later is the one I actually get paid for!)

  • Charlie | July 24, 2007 at 3:02 pm |

    lovin all the NHL talk, i gotta say that hockey is the most underrated sport in the world and NHL uniforms are hands down the best in professional sports

  • Dan | July 24, 2007 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”123645″]CCM (which also owned Koho and Jofa) is now owned by RBK just like Bauer is now owned by Nike. Both companies have kept the CCM and Bauer names around because hockey player are fairly traditional and loyal to their brands over the years. Therefore, RBK simply “inherited” the CCM/Koho jersey contract.

    If there is copyright issues with the stripes on pants, I’m sure the CCM guys could get around them. Players have been wearing the pants they want for years and I cannot see it changing now without the union putting up a fuss.

    Girdles have been around for ages and actually had quite a following at the minor and junior levels. Every team wore cooperalls. From personal experience, traditional type mpdern hockey pants are much cooler than the girdles as they allow arir to flow between the padding and the body. While the lycra material of the girdles that hold everything together allow for decent air flow, the foam and plastic that make up the padding act like insulation and trap heat next to the body.

    Every player today would still be wearing them with the short shells if they had any great advantage over pants.[/quote]

    I can’t find the photo…but I’m fairly certain that when the Caps unveiled their new unis, they had 4 players wearing the uniforms…and there were a couple different pant styles represented.

  • todd krevanchi | July 24, 2007 at 3:06 pm |

    i know its bad, and we all have our individual demons and problems, but is anyone else enjoying watching this train wreck as much as i am?

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”123671″]

    I can’t find the photo…but I’m fairly certain that when the Caps unveiled their new unis, they had 4 players wearing the uniforms…and there were a couple different pant styles represented.[/quote]

    heres the picture you are talking about, and after i found this i realized that this picture shows exactly what we were talking about earlier, as you can see pair of Easton pants (right) as well as the reebok shell(left)

  • Johnny O | July 24, 2007 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”123560″][quote comment=”123542″][quote comment=”123510″][quote comment=”123506″]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]

    i always thought that we should have a virtual business rolodex for readers here.
    im in commercial insurance…[/quote]

    Todd knows (and many of you do by now) that I practice trademark and copyright law.[/quote]

    Scientist in the petrochemical industry.[/quote]
    Golf Professional in Janesville, WI

  • Mike | July 24, 2007 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”123508″][quote comment=”123504″][quote comment=”123501″][quote comment=”123500″]So the Sharks had a countdown till their new logo unveiling on their site, but now it’s at 0:00:00 and the old logo is still up. Go figure.[/quote]

    I’ve been thinking the same for over an hour now, but then i realized they will reveal it at 10 am pacific time looks like they set the countdown to eastern time[/quote]
    Damn California people. First they vote Arnold into office, then they support Paris Hilton, now this.[/quote]
    Now you’re getting personal.[/quote]

    It’s set by your system time ;) . So those of you in ET get 0:00:00:00 three hours early.

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 3:16 pm |

    leads me to believe that Reebok will not be forcing the shells on everyone

  • Kramer | July 24, 2007 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”123510″][quote comment=”123506″]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]
    i also work at an auto parts store as well as being a firefighter.

  • Kramer | July 24, 2007 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”123681″][quote comment=”123510″][quote comment=”123506″]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]
    i also work at an auto parts store as well as being a firefighter.[/quote]
    damn quotes

  • Vince Grzegorek | July 24, 2007 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”123682″][quote comment=”123681″][quote comment=”123510″][quote comment=”123506″]
    this brings up a good point, how many different walks of life are represented on uniwatch? we have to have a vast majority of diffetent job fields. im a firefighter. what are you all?[/quote]
    i also work at an auto parts store as well as being a firefighter.[/quote]
    damn quotes[/quote]
    [/quote] [/quote]

    End?

  • Jordan | July 24, 2007 at 3:31 pm |

    i love the whole sharks package minus the shield — it looks like something an MLS team cooked up trying to look more european, and dramatically failed (think real salt lake)

  • jsdryden | July 24, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    Based on the trouble others have had today closing quotes, ending italics etc.
    Would it be a good idea if there was a FAQ regarding making comments? I know I have trouble when I want to post a link, and when quoting others too.

    Just a suggestion…

  • schuby | July 24, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    thanks, Vince! that’s twice today. on a roll right now

  • Phil | July 24, 2007 at 3:34 pm |

    I run a small alloy fabrication shop.

  • PBJ | July 24, 2007 at 3:36 pm |

    Supervisor of Planning and Studies for a public affairs communications company in NYC

  • adr | July 24, 2007 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”123679″]leads me to believe that Reebok will not be forcing the shells on everyone[/quote]

    The other possibility, maybe, is that Reebok has opened their copyright so that other companies can manufacture shells.

    Maybe?

    Just uninformed speculation on my part, anyway.

  • CJ | July 24, 2007 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”123686″]i love the whole sharks package minus the shield — it looks like something an MLS team cooked up trying to look more european, and dramatically failed (think real salt lake)[/quote]

    My first reaction to the naming of RSL was, “Do they know ‘real’ means royal in Spanish? Cause I didn’t know we had anything royal in the US outside of Emperor Norton.”

    Also, I’m a student. Spending my summer job reading Uni Watch.

  • Chris | July 24, 2007 at 3:41 pm |

    Elementary school teacher in Southwestern Ontario

  • Broker75 | July 24, 2007 at 3:42 pm |

    I like how everybody is trying to beef up their respective positions in the work world.
    example: janitor, detailing the hallways of a fire resistive building which provides education for students.

  • Ken | July 24, 2007 at 3:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”123694″][quote comment=”123679″]leads me to believe that Reebok will not be forcing the shells on everyone[/quote]

    The other possibility, maybe, is that Reebok has opened their copyright so that other companies can manufacture shells.

    Maybe?

    Just uninformed speculation on my part, anyway.[/quote]

    Reebok wouldn’t let the other companies make the shells, we just went through how they spent a ton of money on the rights, but what we were talking about earlier is if all players will have to wear the shells over their other pants if they are not using the reebok edge system. but judging by the capitals pictures, the players will still be able to wear pants of their own choosing, without the shells.

  • Joey Guns | July 24, 2007 at 3:43 pm |

    Here’s Nolan Ryan throwing out the first pitch in Japan a few days ago. Does anyone know why there always seems to be a batter in the batter’s box during the ceremonial first pitches?

    http://www.bobbysway...

  • Kerry | July 24, 2007 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”123676″]Golf Professional in Janesville, WI[/quote]
    I envy you so damn much!

  • jsdryden | July 24, 2007 at 3:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”123696″]Elementary school teacher in Southwestern Ontario[/quote]
    Chris, are you going to the Imperial Pub tonight? I am heading out shortly as I am on the other side of TO.

    Hope to see you there.

  • Joe Drennan | July 24, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”123701″][quote comment=”123676″]Golf Professional in Janesville, WI[/quote]
    I envy you so damn much![/quote]
    You obviously haven’t been to Janesville. Just kidding. I pass through there on my way to visit my parents in Chicago. I like the place and have no problems with it. Enjoy the golfing as that’s a skill I will never be good at.

  • Garrett | July 24, 2007 at 4:15 pm |

    Personal Trainer/Athletic Club Management/Strength and Conditioning Coach

  • Matt D. | July 24, 2007 at 4:25 pm |

    High School Computer/Business Teacher.

    I heartily agree with the posts about the Camden Yards Tour. It is so worth the 7 bucks. When else are you getting into the press box or the dugout (especially with the professions listed here)?

  • Colin | July 24, 2007 at 4:30 pm |

    A question to Joe Hilseberg regarding the pic of the centre field ivy wall at Camden Yards: What’s with the stripes in the grass? Are they using that as a source of replacement turf?

  • S Bennett | July 24, 2007 at 4:33 pm |

    Is it just me, or does it seem like pro sports has gone out of its way to look mere and more like video games? First, we get graphics all over the place, then we get wacky angles, remeniscent of the angles offered from video games, now the NHL uniforms are tighter, making players look more like the video game version than ever before, and certainly not the other way around.

    Life imitating art?

    SB

  • Johnny O | July 24, 2007 at 4:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”123704″][quote comment=”123701″][quote comment=”123676″]Golf Professional in Janesville, WI[/quote]
    I envy you so damn much![/quote]
    You obviously haven’t been to Janesville. Just kidding. I pass through there on my way to visit my parents in Chicago. I like the place and have no problems with it. Enjoy the golfing as that’s a skill I will never be good at.[/quote]
    Janesville isn’t a bad place to lived. I am only about an hour and 15 min from Miller Park, so I can catch a lot of Brewers games. I am originally from Stevens Point, WI and went to college in Green Bay (St. Norbert College). The course I work at is awesome. It is a links style kind of course. http://www.glenering.... But being a Golf Pro is much different than being a pro golfer. I am sponsored by Titleist and I do get “paid to play” technically because I have pro status, but I don’t play nearly as much as I would like to…only about 2-3 times per week. And when you work at a golf course that really isn’t much. I have been in the golf business since I was 14 and wouldn’t trade it for the world. Working every weekend and holiday sucks, being in Wisconsin, I get Dec, Jan, Feb off…which is nice.

  • Joe | July 24, 2007 at 4:52 pm |

    US Coast Guard

  • Broker75 | July 24, 2007 at 4:53 pm |

    I don’t know if it has been brought up in here before but the Sabres will be hosting the Penguins at Ralph Wilson Stadium. The game will be played outdoors on New Year’s Day. The Pens-Sabres game will be televised in the U.S. by NBC, which pushed to play the game on New Year’s Day. If the event is finalized,..

  • Joe | July 24, 2007 at 4:54 pm |

    i know we all love striped stirrups, how about Bird’s striped tube socks?

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Mike | July 24, 2007 at 5:02 pm |

    I still prefer if the logo looked like this

    new, old and updated

  • FEZ | July 24, 2007 at 5:09 pm |

    Have any of you actually seen the new pants and socks? The new socks are kinda smooth like spandex material. Almost like football jersey shoulders.. kinda squishy.

    Since they are no longer wool/cotton, the socks now have a patch with the loop part of the hook and loop (velcro) with the hook part in the new pants. Also the socks now have a tighter elastic band around the bottom like a pair of sweatpants.

    The socks looked really comfortable.

  • Shroinke | July 24, 2007 at 5:11 pm |

    Being that the whole point of that RBK Edge video was to show off the new uniforms, I found it hilarious to see fans at the Verizon Center wearing the old Capitals uniforms.

    You’d hope they’ll fix that before the game hits shelves.

  • slam | July 24, 2007 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”123735″]I still prefer if the logo looked like this

    new, old and updated[/quote]

    I didn’t mind the grey shade so I do like your revision. I’ll reserve judgment on the orange until I see it.

    I don’t know why they coloured the eye orange in the new logo. They should have just left it white. Sharks roll their eye back when they bite down on something to protect them since they don’t have eyelids. (You actually used to be able to learn something on TLC.) Also, don’t sharks have five gill slits and not three?

  • Thorold Blair | July 24, 2007 at 5:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”123697″]I like how everybody is trying to beef up their respective positions in the work world.
    example: janitor, detailing the hallways of a fire resistive building which provides education for students.[/quote]

    I rent cars in the Honeymoon Capital of the World! And as of september I’ll be a 26 year old, first year college student!

  • Chris | July 24, 2007 at 5:18 pm |

    Health Insurance Agent in Nashville, TN

  • Philly Bill | July 24, 2007 at 5:33 pm |

    Let’s test the spam filter: Anyone looking to hire an editor/content manager in publishing or media relations?

  • Chad G | July 24, 2007 at 5:35 pm |

    Has anyone reported on this already? Why isn’t Mexico wearing their adidas Unis in the Pan Am games.

  • joe | July 24, 2007 at 5:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”123669″]lovin all the NHL talk, i gotta say that hockey is the most underrated sport in the world and NHL uniforms are hands down the best in professional sports[/quote]

    at least they were the best before RBK got hold of them. This whole “they’ll play better” BS is making me sick. I have never thought “Darn if i had a different material in my sweater I could have stretched farther and gotten that puck”. Less restrictive my @$$

  • joe | July 24, 2007 at 5:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”123701″][quote comment=”123676″]Golf Professional in Janesville, WI[/quote]
    I envy you so damn much![/quote]

    I would if he wasn’t stuck in Janesville.

  • jordan skipper | July 24, 2007 at 5:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”123739″]Being that the whole point of that RBK Edge video was to show off the new uniforms, I found it hilarious to see fans at the Verizon Center wearing the old Capitals uniforms.

    You’d hope they’ll fix that before the game hits shelves.[/quote]

    some fans will prob. still wear the old jersey in real life because some of these new rbk jerseys are ugly (I.E. Nashville)

  • Johnny O | July 24, 2007 at 6:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”123752″][quote comment=”123701″][quote comment=”123676″]Golf Professional in Janesville, WI[/quote]
    I envy you so damn much![/quote]

    I would if he wasn’t stuck in Janesville.[/quote]
    Oh, come on now. It isn’t too bad here. Plus the golf course I work at is awesome. It is one of the nicer ones in the “State Line” area. People from Rockford, Beloit, and Madison come to play it all the time. The city isn’t anything special, but not the worst place to live. Plus I love being a golf pro so I guess it doesn’t matter to me where I am located.

  • dgc | July 24, 2007 at 6:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”123739″]Being that the whole point of that RBK Edge video was to show off the new uniforms, I found it hilarious to see fans at the Verizon Center wearing the old Capitals uniforms.

    You’d hope they’ll fix that before the game hits shelves.[/quote]

    Caps fans do indeed wear a mix of uniforms. Lots of the black, some eagle whites, plenty of retro red and white. I assume this will continue into the season, so it may in fact be accurate.

  • S Bennett | July 24, 2007 at 6:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”123748″]Has anyone reported on this already? Why isn’t Mexico wearing their adidas Unis in the Pan Am games.[/quote]

    Interesting/ They also don’t have the Mexican football federation logo on them. The Jamaicans appear to be in official kit. Strange.

    SB

  • Alex | July 24, 2007 at 6:27 pm |

    I don’t know if this was mentioned but Randy Shannon head coach of the Miami Hurricanes has announced at least for this season to go with “team first” mentality the new UM jersey will be blank on the back at least for this season he says they could return next season…also im going to try to go see the premiere of the new Florida Panthers sweater on sunday i’ll put up pics if i go

  • Wade | July 24, 2007 at 7:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”123773″]I don’t know if this was mentioned but Randy Shannon head coach of the Miami Hurricanes has announced at least for this season to go with “team first” mentality the new UM jersey will be blank on the back at least for this season he says they could return next season…also im going to try to go see the premiere of the new Florida Panthers sweater on sunday i’ll put up pics if i go[/quote]

    Glad to hear that bout the Canes, but I think it will look kinda weird without names on the new uniforms. For me, the no-name look is best on the “classic” jerseys.

    Architect

  • Chad G | July 24, 2007 at 7:32 pm |

    Is it considered ok to say schmuck on a baseball telecast, because Keith Hernandez just said “If Babe Ruth had played with a bunch of schmucks…”?

  • Ron | July 24, 2007 at 7:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”123686″]i love the whole sharks package minus the shield — it looks like something an MLS team cooked up trying to look more european, and dramatically failed (think real salt lake)[/quote]
    The Shield of the Sharks incorporates the City of San Jose official logo with the Sun Rays. Here is the City Government page with the city logo, upper right. The return of the MLS’ San Jose Earthquakes also incorporates the Sun Rays in their logo as well as seen on their web site, upper left.

  • derek | July 24, 2007 at 7:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”123515″]I’m a uniform geek.[/quote]
    Isnt everyone on this site a uniform geek?

  • Dave A | July 24, 2007 at 7:52 pm |

    Senior Business Analyst with the Ontario Government

  • timmy b | July 24, 2007 at 8:01 pm |

    field rep for local government pension plans in the state of pa.

    was going to say slob on welfare, but nah…

  • TulsaFan | July 24, 2007 at 8:18 pm |

    Mariners are playing game 2 against the Rangers in their batting practice jerseys, which prompted the announcers on FSN Southwest to say “Those are some ugly uniforms, they don’t look like big-league unis. The uniform police should come arrest them.” Also adding, “It’s very spring training-ish.”

  • Stuby | July 24, 2007 at 8:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”123819″][quote comment=”123515″]I’m a uniform geek.[/quote]
    Isnt everyone on this site a uniform geek?[/quote]
    Pretty much.

  • Brad | July 24, 2007 at 8:28 pm |

    I turn on the M’s game to see the batting practice jerseys…Wow.

  • Stuby | July 24, 2007 at 8:30 pm |

    Hey, Distant Replays changed the banner at the top of the page. No more Mattingly jersey with a name on it. I don’t really get how the Auburn T-shirt fits in with the retro NBA Ts, but I’ll take it.

  • Matthew S. | July 24, 2007 at 8:31 pm |

    In Game 2 of their doubleheader which just got underway, the Mariners are wearing their BP jerseys against the Rangers. A few teams have done this in the past and gained exposure here for it (notably the Nationals), but this is the first time I’ve seen it this season.

  • Cody | July 24, 2007 at 8:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”123832″]I turn on the M’s game to see the batting practice jerseys…Wow.[/quote]
    Yeah, the Rangers announcers had some humorous comments about it. I sent it to Paul so maybe you’ll see it.

  • Matthew S. | July 24, 2007 at 8:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”123832″]I turn on the M’s game to see the batting practice jerseys…Wow.[/quote]

    Barely beat me to it. Well done.

  • Jason Adkins | July 24, 2007 at 8:58 pm |

    The women presenting the yellow jersey in the Tour de France have worn yellow skirts for as long as I have watched the event.

  • TD | July 24, 2007 at 9:44 pm |

    Ubaldo Jimenez is my new favorite player.

    First of all, rookie.
    Second, a pitcher for the Rockies.

    So he has The Power To Disgust – the starting pitcher selects the game jersey. In Colorado, that isn’t easy. Grape-Ape looms. Black-On-Black. Much badness.

    Not only has Man-U picked the relatively classy ‘CR’ sleeveless whites (second best to the ‘CR’ sleeved, IMO), but he has HIGH CUFFS AND EXPOSED STIRRUPS.

    Alas, points deducted for having them on backwards (high part in the front), but given the rookie-ness and the Rockie-ness, I’m all a-flutter. Yay.

  • Seattle Zach | July 24, 2007 at 10:04 pm |

    The Seattle Mariners are wearing their BP/Spring Training jerseys in the second half of their doubleheader against Texas tonight… no pics yet. Is there a rule against teams doing this? Or against road teams wearing jerseys without names on the back?

  • Adam | July 24, 2007 at 10:09 pm |

    If you watch the video on the Sharks website, you can see a possible hint of the Sharks uni in the background. It’s teal with a white stripe under an orange shoulderpatch. In other words, it looks WAY too much like the Dolphins. If those are the jerseys, I disapprove.

  • Flip | July 24, 2007 at 10:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”123419″]Is it me, or is the Oriole Bird’s stirrup backwards??

    http://farm2.static....

    Looks like it to me.

    Newspaper reporter.

  • Adam | July 24, 2007 at 10:16 pm |

    Oh, sorry for my rudeness. I’m a student and I’ve been lurking around here for a while and thought I’d rear my head a little bit :-).

  • Priest | July 24, 2007 at 10:39 pm |

    Well, I feel stupid. I just made a post wondering why there were no comments on the new Sharks logo. Apparently somewhere along the line, I got into the wrong comments page. I have no clue where I made that post.

    Anyways, they seem to have fixed a oft-mentioned (around here) problem: the tape finally wraps all the way around the stick.

  • Ali | July 24, 2007 at 10:52 pm |

    This was in the wikipedia entry for Camden Yards:

    On the street there is also a statue, created in 1996 by sculptor Susan Luery[4], of left-handed Babe Ruth holding a right-handed fielder’s glove. The statue is entitled, “Babe’s Dream”, and shows him at the beginning of his career, before left-handed gloves (for the right hand of a fielder) were an option.

  • TD | July 24, 2007 at 11:07 pm |

    Heath Bell of the Padres is wearing a green camo undershirt beneath the blue alt.

    This is on the road at Colorado, so its blue jersey, green camo undershirt, sand road pants.

    My Dad (70 years old, retired army) makes this mistake every now and then.

  • TD | July 24, 2007 at 11:31 pm |

    My man Ubaldo Jimenez.. he left the game for a pinch hitter, gave up three runs (pictured) and a no-decision.

  • TD | July 24, 2007 at 11:36 pm |

    Rockies first base coach Glenallen Hill is wearing a no-flap batting helmet tonight. Rockies’ AA Tulsa coach Scott Coolbaugh was killed on Sunday by a line drive in the coaches box.

    If you look carefully, you can tell that the helmet has the faux coolflo purpleburst pattern airbrushed onto it.

  • Alex | July 24, 2007 at 11:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”123807″][quote comment=”123773″]I don’t know if this was mentioned but Randy Shannon head coach of the Miami Hurricanes has announced at least for this season to go with “team first” mentality the new UM jersey will be blank on the back at least for this season he says they could return next season…also im going to try to go see the premiere of the new Florida Panthers sweater on sunday i’ll put up pics if i go[/quote]

    Glad to hear that bout the Canes, but I think it will look kinda weird without names on the new uniforms. For me, the no-name look is best on the “classic” jerseys.

    Architect[/quote]

    i agree but it might just be a one year thing from what i read…
    http://www.miamihera...

  • =bg= | July 25, 2007 at 12:33 am |

    What is the problem Angelos has with “BALTIMORE” on the jerseys?

  • Blaner | July 25, 2007 at 12:48 am |

    does anyone recall in the mid 90’s when north carolina wore those nikes with the blue removeable straps? If anyone knows what the name of that shoe was please let me know. thanx

  • Nael M. | July 25, 2007 at 2:44 am |

    [quote comment=”123863″]If you watch the video on the Sharks website, you can see a possible hint of the Sharks uni in the background. It’s teal with a white stripe under an orange shoulderpatch. In other words, it looks WAY too much like the Dolphins. If those are the jerseys, I disapprove.[/quote]
    If you had looked closer, you also would’ve noticed that piece cloth is rectangular shaped and has the team’s “This is Sharks territory” promotional graphic on it. It’s just a giveaway/promotional towel, not a jersey.

  • MattM | July 25, 2007 at 3:46 am |

    The seattle mariners wore their batting practice uniforms yesterday in the second game of a double header against the rangers.

  • Scott W | July 25, 2007 at 4:55 am |

    [quote comment=”123735″]I still prefer if the logo looked like this

    new, old and updated[/quote]

    Impressive! I agree–that looks pretty B.A. One thing i would keep from the “old” logo–the straight edge of the top of the triangle. i HATE how the “new” logo is bowed across the top.

  • Teebz | July 25, 2007 at 5:02 am |

    Wade, if you’re going to the event in Miami for the Panthers, please contact me. My email is on my blog which is linked on my name. I need a South Beach correspondant! :o)

  • Brendan | July 25, 2007 at 6:10 am |

    Retail sales for a big sports equipment company (it’ll be your first guess, I guarantee it) in San Francisco, and a student in Oakland.

  • Alex | July 25, 2007 at 6:14 am |

    [quote comment=”123762″][quote comment=”123748″]Has anyone reported on this already? Why isn’t Mexico wearing their adidas Unis in the Pan Am games.[/quote]

    Interesting/ They also don’t have the Mexican football federation logo on them. The Jamaicans appear to be in official kit. Strange.

    SB[/quote]

    I think it’s cause the pan am games only have amateur athletes competing. So sometimes there are different sponsors for the amateurs than for the pros.

  • Dave | July 25, 2007 at 2:23 pm |

    I think there is some historical revision going on here with the Babe Ruth statue. I remember when it was unveiled and it was first noticed that he had a right-handed glove. The explanation at the time was that the sculptor had used a glove of that era without considering handedness and that it was in fact a mistake.

    The claim about Ruth having used borrowed gloves may sound reasonable, but it was certainly not given as an explanation at the time the statue was unveiled.

    So I’d say it’s the sculptor’s mistake, followed by a clever story to cover up the tracks.

  • Chris | July 26, 2007 at 5:43 pm |

    I always thought the Camden Yards ivy didn’t reach the top of the wall because it starts growing at the beginning of the season and doesn’t ever have a chance to grow that high. Also, how would ESPN put banners up on that wall if it’s the batter’s eye?

    As for the strips of missing grass – yes, those are to replace grass on the field itself.