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The Cleat Beat

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[Editor’s Note: Long before this site existed, reader Mark Mihalik had already earned the title of Uni Watch Lifetime Achievement Scholar, primarily for his observations regarding footwear. He doesn’t contribute as often as he did in those days, but he recently sent a manifesto that made it clear he hasn’t lost anything off his fastball. Enjoy. — PL]

[Intern’s Note: With Paul gone, we’ll take a few days to recognize some of the writing contributions of your fellow readers. This is the first of three that you can look forward to, along with a new entry by yours truly early next week. — VG]

By Mark Mihalik

One thing I’ve been following over the past year or so is baseball players who wear basketball sneakers or cross-trainers with modified, cleated outsoles. Here’s an update on what I’ve noticed recently:

First of all, Frank Thomas is still wearing Nike Shox Ups this year with the Jays (just in all black instead of white and green like last year). I’ve recently noticed that Eric Chavez (pictured wearing sneakers here, here, and here) had switched to normal, unmodified baseball cleats for a while (he’s wearing Nike’s baseball Huarache 2k4 shoe here), but now he’s back to his old tricks. Chavez is pictured here wearing the original basketball Huarache 2k4, and he’s in the Huarache 64 basketball sneaker here (I added pictures of the original shoes and Nike’s MCS plates that were built into both sneakers).

None of that was too surprising — I figured all of these modifications could’ve just been done by MLB equipment managers, which is what I assumed was the case with Orlando Cabrera (here, here, and here), Jermaine Dye, and Jim Thome in the past.

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But then I was watching the College World Series and I noticed that UNC’s Dustin Ackley is wearing a pair of Air Jordan 11’s with cleats added. Now, most of these modifications have been done on Nike shoes, so I suppose it is possible for Nike to make the customized shoes for their MLB players, but I find it hard to believe that they’d do the same for a college athlete.

But then I did a little snooping around, and found something interesting: Custom Cleats Inc.

If you look around the company’s site, you can see that anyone can provide them with a pair of sneakers and a pair of cleats or just a pair of sneakers, and they’ll put cleats on your sneaker for $89. Interesting stuff. I don’t know if they’re responsible for any of the footwear of the pro or college players that I mentioned, but I think they’d be worth contacting. [Agreed. I’ll get on it soon. — PL]

Friendly Reminder: Paul’s on vacation. If you have questions, observations, or contributions, send them to Vince.

Uni Watch News Ticker: In a move that begs the question, “Will Willie Nelson or Woody Harrelson be in attendance?”, Drew Samuelson notes that on July 20, the Lake Elsinore Storm will be wearing hemp jerseys as part of a “Goin’ Green” promotion that will include organic and healthy concessions, ecological tips, and green fireworks, whatever that means… On Saturday, August 25, the New Hampsire Fisher Cats, the AA affiliate of the Blue Jays, will play one game as the New Hampshire Primaries. That was their original name after their creation in 2003, but an uproar led to a quick name change (very electoral thanks to Bryan Widell)… Fantastic article passed on by Bill Ardizoia about Helmet Hut’s contributions to the uniform (and more specifically, helmet) reproductions for the upcoming movie about Ernie Davis entitled, “The Express”, great read… P.J. Mallardi thinks that BJ Surhoff’s old UNC baseball uni looks pretty cool, especially the helmet… A Uni Watch secret agent has told us that Rice’s football helmet this fall will now be navy and white with an Old English “R”, which would be a fantastic change in my opinion… This might be the coolest piece of fan clothing you can own if you really like Brazilian water polo… Reprinted from yesterday’s comments section, the Tennessee Valley Vipers will be wearing camouflage jerseys for a military appreciation night this Saturday… Enjoy your weekend folks.

 

195 comments to The Cleat Beat

  • Stuby | July 20, 2007 at 8:08 am |

    Sorry, guys, I’m an idiot. I went back to the Tennessee Valley Vipers site and realized that the Military Appreciation Night already took place on July 14th. Here is a link to the auction page for the camo jerseys.

  • CJ | July 20, 2007 at 8:13 am |

    Vince, you do remember the Flyers unveiling is September 16th?

    On the subject of cleats, I always wanted to pick a kicker’s brain on how they choose the two different cleats, for kicking and non-kicking feet.

  • Robert | July 20, 2007 at 8:28 am |

    New Hampshire Primaries? Now that was a fantastic team name. Fun but not gimmicky, and unique to the region. Perfect. What was the source of the uproar and why did the owners cave?

    Fisher Cats is just so uninspired. There are so many teams that are This-Cats (whether referring to cats or catfish) or That-Dogs. Blecch.

  • Tom C. | July 20, 2007 at 8:30 am |

    I know this story is getting too much coverage, but is appropriate to today’s footwear posts:

    Nike holding off on Vick’s shoe

  • Tom C. | July 20, 2007 at 8:35 am |

    Links on the NH team name controversy:

    Wiki

    blog

  • Lake | July 20, 2007 at 8:46 am |

    Vince- you meant Ernie Davis when you wrote Ernie Banks.

  • James P. | July 20, 2007 at 8:50 am |

    That Helmet Hut story is awesome!

  • Elena E | July 20, 2007 at 8:57 am |

    I agree Primaries is a much better name for the NH team. I’m also sick of the made-up -Cat and -Dog names. Burlington (NC) Royals [Appalachian League] had their Military Night July 16, with the camo jerseys. I forgot my camera. It’s ubiquitous now.

  • Johnny O | July 20, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    Has anyone seen Boo Weekly at The British Open this morning??? I have never seen a pro wear this before. I guess it speaks for itself.

    Boo Weekly day 2 at The Open

  • Shadeymonk | July 20, 2007 at 9:00 am |

    Those new Nashville Predators uniforms are awful.

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

  • Original Jim | July 20, 2007 at 9:00 am |

    [quote comment=”121968″]New Hampshire Primaries? Now that was a fantastic team name. Fun but not gimmicky, and unique to the region. Perfect. What was the source of the uproar and why did the owners cave?

    Fisher Cats is just so uninspired. There are so many teams that are This-Cats (whether referring to cats or catfish) or That-Dogs. Blecch.[/quote]

    A Fisher Cat is a type of weasel. They are common in New Hampshire. It’s not like the team made up some generic compound mascot name like RiverCats or IceDogs or something like that. Fisher Cats exist.

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Elena E | July 20, 2007 at 9:06 am |

    OK, so Fishercats isn’t one of made-up ones but a weasel isn’t a very inspiring team name.

  • Jonathon | July 20, 2007 at 9:09 am |

    [quote comment=”121980″]Has anyone seen Boo Weekly at The British Open this morning??? I have never seen a pro wear this before. I guess it speaks for itself.

    Boo Weekly day 2 at The Open[/quote]

    Boo is from Alabama, and he’s a huge hunter. I mean a HUGE hunter. When I first saw him on the telecast, it looked like he had completely covered his arms in tatoos. Only after they zoomed in on him were you able to determine it’s forest camo.

  • Eric | July 20, 2007 at 9:09 am |

    Okay, so I understand that there was a protest and petition against the name New Hampshire Primaries, but even after reading those links, I still don’t understand WHY.

    It’s a clever name, and I think that original logo is awesome.

  • todd krevanchi | July 20, 2007 at 9:16 am |

    great job mark…
    i think chavez’ first try at the cleated hoops shoes was the shox bb4 you pictured.

    i checked out that customcleats site back a while ago when it was featured on niketalk. i would just have reservations of doing that.

    i would assume that the way the cleats are attached to the outsole would destroy or weaken (depending on the technology) the midsole cushioning technology.

    plus, i cant see that the shelf life of these shoes being too long as the upper on hoop shoes is traditionally a very soft and thin leather or synthetic. wheras baseball/softball specific cleats are outfitted with a rough and durable upper.

    but, those spacejams that ackley wore were fire…

  • DenverGregg | July 20, 2007 at 9:17 am |

    [quote comment=”121987″]Okay, so I understand that there was a protest and petition against the name New Hampshire Primaries, but even after reading those links, I still don’t understand WHY.

    It’s a clever name, and I think that original logo is awesome.[/quote]
    Guessing that adherents of the evil party don’t want association with the stupid party and adherents of the stupid party don’t want association with the evil party.

  • Vince Grzegorek | July 20, 2007 at 9:17 am |

    [quote comment=”121975″]Vince- you meant Ernie Davis when you wrote Ernie Banks.[/quote]

    You are absolutely correct. Thanks for the catch!!

  • Clevo | July 20, 2007 at 9:22 am |

    Andruw Jones has been wearing Jordan IVs with baseball cleats this season

    http://espn-i.starwa...

  • todd krevanchi | July 20, 2007 at 9:29 am |

    [quote comment=”121992″]Andruw Jones has been wearing Jordan IVs with baseball cleats this season

    http://espn-i.starwa...

    actually those are jordan 4 cleats and not jordan 4’s with a cleat treatment.

  • Joe Drennan | July 20, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    I like the New Hampshire Primaries logo, but I wonder why they have the Ass on the right side and the Elephant on the left. To me it’s a no brainer to have it the other way around. Still an sweet logo though.

    The Preds sweaters are so ugly they look like a cheap knock off you’d find on the sale rack at Wall-Mart.

  • Jordan | July 20, 2007 at 9:37 am |

    Just curious, does anyone have pictures of the NFL receiver from last year wearing Super Speed model cleats with a baseball cleat plate?

    I can’t remember who the player was, but I know it was mentioned here.

    Nice article.. Niketalk much?

  • Matt B | July 20, 2007 at 9:37 am |

    Why does the blog entry say “Posted by Paul Lukas?”

  • Pat | July 20, 2007 at 9:38 am |

    Fisher Cats may be an uninspiring name. BUT, I defy you to find a cooler sleeve patch. Not a very good picture of it here but it’s the Old Man on the Mountain.

    I do agree that the New Hampshire Primaries would have been a much better name, though. Even the New Hampshire Granite as the blog article said that was another choice.

  • Brent Beck | July 20, 2007 at 9:42 am |

    This cleat topic is great!! I don’t know how long they’d last, but I play mens competitive softball and after playing 5 or 6 games on a Saturday, my feet are killing me. Are there any other places to have this done or is it just customcleat.com? Any other info would be greatly appreciated. You could probably re-use the cleat part every year & just get new shoes. I’d be willing to try it!!

  • GoTerriers | July 20, 2007 at 9:43 am |

    [quote comment=”122000″]The Preds sweaters are so ugly they look like a cheap knock off you’d find on the sale rack at Wall-Mart.[/quote]

    Maybe it’s just me, but a lot of people here just seem to hate change of any kind. I really don’t see what’s so totally reprehensible about the new Preds jersey or the leaked Penguins jersey from yesterday. Again, maybe I’m misinterpreting the “Is it good, or is it stupid” adage, but I like the Preds and the ‘Guins sweaters/jerseys. Aside from the wordmark on the Preds roads, I don’t object to the treatment they’ve given it. The piping all over the place is a bit distracting, but that’s part of the template, and I guess we’ll have to live with it.

  • Terri | July 20, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    Does anyone have another link for the penguins jerseys? The link from yesterday was dead by the time I got to it.

  • Chris Sk | July 20, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    Not to sound totally stupid but what is the thing pictured next to the column today and what does it have to do with cleats? It looks like something on a dock I’d tie a boat to.

  • GoTerriers | July 20, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    [quote comment=”122009″]Not to sound totally stupid but what is the thing pictured next to the column today and what does it have to do with cleats? It looks like something on a dock I’d tie a boat to.[/quote]

    Oh, good. I was afraid I was the only one . . .I get the second picture of “Cleat”-us, the Slack-Jawed Yokel from “The Simpsons” . ..

  • Schafe | July 20, 2007 at 9:53 am |

    I have a buddy in Double-A Bowie, who has Mizuno turfs with the added spikes. He loves them, says they are the most comfortable metal spikes he has ever had.

  • Brian Baute | July 20, 2007 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”121979″]Burlington (NC) Royals [Appalachian League] had their Military Night July 16, with the camo jerseys. I forgot my camera. It’s ubiquitous now.[/quote]

    Shame I missed the camo night since I’m in Burlington. Elena, you seem familiar to me – do I know you?

  • James P. | July 20, 2007 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”122009″]Not to sound totally stupid but what is the thing pictured next to the column today and what does it have to do with cleats? It looks like something on a dock I’d tie a boat to.[/quote]

    You are thinking correctly. It is a nautical cleat.

  • Jason G. | July 20, 2007 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”122006″]This cleat topic is great!! I don’t know how long they’d last, but I play mens competitive softball and after playing 5 or 6 games on a Saturday, my feet are killing me. Are there any other places to have this done or is it just customcleat.com? Any other info would be greatly appreciated. You could probably re-use the cleat part every year & just get new shoes. I’d be willing to try it!![/quote]

    Out of curiosity, what cleats do you wear?

  • Chris Sk | July 20, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment=”122013″][quote comment=”122009″]Not to sound totally stupid but what is the thing pictured next to the column today and what does it have to do with cleats? It looks like something on a dock I’d tie a boat to.[/quote]

    You are thinking correctly. It is a nautical cleat.[/quote]

    Good one, the plane flew right over my head.

  • Alan #44 | July 20, 2007 at 10:07 am |

    Didnt get a chance to comment on Rescue Me yesterday, but did anybody notice that Phil Esposito was the coach of the FDNY team?
    Loved the cameo, (Leary being from Boston, obviously a big fan, as am I, being a big Ranger fan) but why would a guy with an obvious Canadian accent be coaching a bunch of NY firemen, eh?

  • Brent Beck | July 20, 2007 at 10:15 am |

    “Out of curiosity, what cleats do you wear?”

    I wear the Nike Turf shoe. I’d wear cleats but after a few games I’ve got to take them off. A tennis shoe feels great, I’ve played in New Balance before, but slipped slightly every once and a while.

  • todd krevanchi | July 20, 2007 at 10:16 am |

    currently i wear a pair of griffey g6 conversions.

    although id really like a pair of mcs huarache 2k5’s seen here by cano
    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://cache.gettyim...

    http://cache.gettyim...

  • Eriq Jaffe | July 20, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    It might be time for “Ditch The Black” to work on a French translation, as the Montreal Alouettes have re-introduced black alternate unis.

    “The players look great,” said 42-year-old Joanne Crevier. “Where can I get my own?”

    For my own sanity, I have to hope she’s asking where she can get herself one of the players.

  • Kenny | July 20, 2007 at 10:26 am |

    Extending the conversation from yesterday about wearing apparel that’s not “your” team, I say go for it. I’m a Cardinals fan & a huuuuge Bears fan. I put football #1 and most likely would never wear anything other than Bears stuff. However, I buy a lot of baseball hats…I too love the old Brewers logo, so I bought the hat. Everybody who knows me pretty well asks me why I would wear that hat and I tell them cuz I love the logo. I would do it with other teams as well.

  • Deron | July 20, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”121964″]Vince, you do remember the Flyers unveiling is September 16th?

    On the subject of cleats, I always wanted to pick a kicker’s brain on how they choose the two different cleats, for kicking and non-kicking feet.[/quote]

    While searching for a picture of the shoe I wore while kicking I ran across a site that does a good job of explaining the use of two diferent kicking shoes scroll down to equipment.

  • degroat | July 20, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”121981″]Those new Nashville Predators uniforms are awful.

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    I agree…w hich is why I decided to go ahead and fix them.

    http://www.checkingl...

  • todd krevanchi | July 20, 2007 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”122029″]Extending the conversation from yesterday about wearing apparel that’s not “your” team, I say go for it. I’m a Cardinals fan & a huuuuge Bears fan. I put football #1 and most likely would never wear anything other than Bears stuff. However, I buy a lot of baseball hats…I too love the old Brewers logo, so I bought the hat. Everybody who knows me pretty well asks me why I would wear that hat and I tell them cuz I love the logo. I would do it with other teams as well.[/quote]

    amen kenny. you dont necessarily have to like the team to wear the hat.
    so long as you like its aesthetics.

    not a cal fan but the navy blue lid, with the script “Cal” is one mean looking hat to sport.

  • Mike Engle | July 20, 2007 at 10:33 am |

    Just had to say, I like the new font of the blog comments. They’re easier to read.

  • Jason G. | July 20, 2007 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”122031″][quote comment=”121981″]Those new Nashville Predators uniforms are awful.

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    I agree…w hich is why I decided to go ahead and fix them.

    http://www.checkingl...

    It’s amazing the difference those subtle changes made. Your corrected jerseys look a lot better.

  • Shadeymonk | July 20, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”122035″][quote comment=”122031″][quote comment=”121981″]Those new Nashville Predators uniforms are awful.

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    I agree…w hich is why I decided to go ahead and fix them.

    http://www.checkingl...

    It’s amazing the difference those subtle changes made. Your corrected jerseys look a lot better.[/quote]

    I agree. Get rid of the side-piping and we might have something that approaches respectability.

  • Banker Bill | July 20, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    No dice on the Pens jersey link? I didn’t see it either. Hopefully they change it by adding 10 pound weights to slow Crosby down….

    Go Rangers.

  • Mike Engle | July 20, 2007 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”122032″][quote comment=”122029″]Extending the conversation from yesterday about wearing apparel that’s not “your” team, I say go for it. I’m a Cardinals fan & a huuuuge Bears fan. I put football #1 and most likely would never wear anything other than Bears stuff. However, I buy a lot of baseball hats…I too love the old Brewers logo, so I bought the hat. Everybody who knows me pretty well asks me why I would wear that hat and I tell them cuz I love the logo. I would do it with other teams as well.[/quote]

    amen kenny. you dont necessarily have to like the team to wear the hat.
    so long as you like its aesthetics.

    not a cal fan but the navy blue lid, with the script “Cal” is one mean looking hat to sport.[/quote]
    My personal policy: I’m a Yankees fan, so Red Sox hats and Mets hats are out of the question (fiercest rivals). Aside from that, all other hats are fair game, and bonus points go to retro styles. For instance, I have a standard Yankees 5950 (it’s my team), an all-teal Marlins 5950 (found it at a flea market last May, got it for the “Look what I found!” factor. Plus it’s better than the blackout hats.), and a pinwheel Expos hat by American Needle because it’s one-of-a-kind and I’m moving to Montreal soon.

  • Shadeymonk | July 20, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”122037″]No dice on the Pens jersey link? I didn’t see it either. Hopefully they change it by adding 10 pound weights to slow Crosby down….

    Go Rangers.[/quote]
    I saw it when the link worked yesterday, but I can’t find anything today… they weren’t good, I’ll tell you that.

  • Mike Engle | July 20, 2007 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”122040″][quote comment=”122037″]No dice on the Pens jersey link? I didn’t see it either. Hopefully they change it by adding 10 pound weights to slow Crosby down….

    Go Rangers.[/quote]
    I saw it when the link worked yesterday, but I can’t find anything today… they weren’t good, I’ll tell you that.[/quote]
    Basically the same, but with contrast-color side panels under the arms (think Cleveland Cavaliers). No comment on the front, that side wasn’t pictured. The breezers were pictured. It looks like those stripes will tie into the design, but we all know that that always looks like sh*t because the clothes never stay still.

  • George | July 20, 2007 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”122036″][quote comment=”122035″][quote comment=”122031″][quote comment=”121981″]Those new Nashville Predators uniforms are awful.

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    I agree…w hich is why I decided to go ahead and fix them.

    http://www.checkingl...

    It’s amazing the difference those subtle changes made. Your corrected jerseys look a lot better.[/quote]

    I agree. Get rid of the side-piping and we might have something that approaches respectability.[/quote]

    I’m guessing they aren’t going with the third jersey anymore?

  • DW in Tampa Bay | July 20, 2007 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”122020″]Didnt get a chance to comment on Rescue Me yesterday, but did anybody notice that Phil Esposito was the coach of the FDNY team?
    Loved the cameo, (Leary being from Boston, obviously a big fan, as am I, being a big Ranger fan) but why would a guy with an obvious Canadian accent be coaching a bunch of NY firemen, eh?[/quote]

    Phil played a FDNY Chief (or some other white shirt) on two earlier episodes of “Rescue Me” in 2006. So he was already established as a character. A minor one, but still..

  • Mike Engle | July 20, 2007 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”122042″][quote comment=”122036″][quote comment=”122035″][quote comment=”122031″][quote comment=”121981″]Those new Nashville Predators uniforms are awful.

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    I agree…w hich is why I decided to go ahead and fix them.

    http://www.checkingl...

    It’s amazing the difference those subtle changes made. Your corrected jerseys look a lot better.[/quote]

    I agree. Get rid of the side-piping and we might have something that approaches respectability.[/quote]

    I’m guessing they aren’t going with the third jersey anymore?[/quote]
    This could be an FAQ soon. NO NHL THIRD JERSEYS THIS YEAR! The NHL wishes to showcase the new technology behind the jerseys, so they are starting small. White for away, team color for home (yeah, they got that backwards, but that’s a different story).

  • Anthony M | July 20, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”122036″][quote comment=”122035″][quote comment=”122031″][quote comment=”121981″]Those new Nashville Predators uniforms are awful.

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    I agree…w hich is why I decided to go ahead and fix them.

    http://www.checkingl...

    It’s amazing the difference those subtle changes made. Your corrected jerseys look a lot better.[/quote]

    I agree. Get rid of the side-piping and we might have something that approaches respectability.[/quote]

    That word mark right above the logo on the away jersey really bothers me.

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”122007″][quote comment=”122000″]The Preds sweaters are so ugly they look like a cheap knock off you’d find on the sale rack at Wall-Mart.[/quote]

    Maybe it’s just me, but a lot of people here just seem to hate change of any kind. I really don’t see what’s so totally reprehensible about the new Preds jersey or the leaked Penguins jersey from yesterday. Again, maybe I’m misinterpreting the “Is it good, or is it stupid” adage, but I like the Preds and the ‘Guins sweaters/jerseys. Aside from the wordmark on the Preds roads, I don’t object to the treatment they’ve given it. The piping all over the place is a bit distracting, but that’s part of the template, and I guess we’ll have to live with it.[/quote]

    Yeah…if anyone has that Pens image, that would be great. Link’s dead.

    I agree with GoTerriers, here. I think that no matter what, this board always seems to rail against changes…especially if a team tries to innovate or go in a different direction. Not every team has a long tradition to uphold. So why not try something new?

  • Kevin | July 20, 2007 at 10:58 am |

    sweet article…i have always been a sneaker head…and my buddies look at me all crooked eyed when i bring up that a certain player is wearing basketball shoes!

  • Nate | July 20, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    I’m a New Hampshire native, and Fisher Cats are VERY real. Ask anyone who has an outdoor cat for a pet. Fisher cats tend to attack pet cats.

    Primaries was a cool name. I don’t really remember an uproar about the name, all I remember was that they changed it. I think they had a contest where people could vote for the name they wanted…and Fisher Cats won.

    I’ll be at that game on the 25th. I’m singing the National Anthem.

  • Mike Engle | July 20, 2007 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”122050″]I’m a New Hampshire native, and Fisher Cats are VERY real. Ask anyone who has an outdoor cat for a pet. Fisher cats tend to attack pet cats.

    Primaries was a cool name. I don’t really remember an uproar about the name, all I remember was that they changed it. I think they had a contest where people could vote for the name they wanted…and Fisher Cats won.

    I’ll be at that game on the 25th. I’m singing the National Anthem.[/quote]
    So what are the last two words of the National Anthem?

  • Kyle O. | July 20, 2007 at 11:03 am |

    is it just me or is this a different font for the comments section?

  • Joe Drennan | July 20, 2007 at 11:04 am |

    I hate the Preds jersey, but I am not against change. I think some changes are good, but others are uncalled for.

    Uniforms that should never be changed – Yankees – Cubs – Red Sox – Bears – Packers – Habs – Red Wings – Blackhawks – Cardinals.

    I think often times when teams descide to make changes, they go out and hire some designer for their name, not their attention to detail, resulting in things like the Preds uniform.

    A great non uni related example of this is the ise rink I worked at in high school. The park district got some big name architect to design the place. The problem is the guy had never designed an ice rink before and didn’t trulyl understand all the nuances involved. Walking into the place it looks really nice, but sit in the stands and you can’t see the other end of the ice because of a half circle wall of glass that opens into the lobby. The locker rooms were also so small half a mite team couldn’t fully fit into one when it first opened, forcing added money to be spent to expand the lockers a week after opening.

    One team that made a big change a few years back was the Cyotes. I am one of the few that apprechiated their old picaso unis, but when they changed to their most rescent uni, I was shocked and pleased and loved the change.

    That said I’ll sum it up by saying change is good if those making the canges actualy look at the product before signing off on it.

  • LT | July 20, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    Wow are those new Predators jerseys horrible!

    I agree with the comments here on the Primaries. What a great nickname and logo. Joe Drennan is 100% right though. The donkey should be on the left and the elephant on the right. If they realy wanted to have fun they could have put Ross Perot in the middle.

  • Talon Lardner | July 20, 2007 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”122046″][quote comment=”122036″][quote comment=”122035″][quote comment=”122031″][quote comment=”121981″]Those new Nashville Predators uniforms are awful.

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    I agree…w hich is why I decided to go ahead and fix them.

    http://www.checkingl...

    It’s amazing the difference those subtle changes made. Your corrected jerseys look a lot better.[/quote]

    I agree. Get rid of the side-piping and we might have something that approaches respectability.[/quote]

    That word mark right above the logo on the away jersey really bothers me.[/quote]

    I think that is the only thing about the jersey that bugs me… I don’t mind the striping any,and the colors work well on TV. I just pray they don’t add any striping to my Red Wings’ jerseys.

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”122056″][quote comment=”122046″][quote comment=”122036″][quote comment=”122035″][quote comment=”122031″][quote comment=”121981″]Those new Nashville Predators uniforms are awful.

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    I agree…w hich is why I decided to go ahead and fix them.

    http://www.checkingl...

    It’s amazing the difference those subtle changes made. Your corrected jerseys look a lot better.[/quote]

    I agree. Get rid of the side-piping and we might have something that approaches respectability.[/quote]

    That word mark right above the logo on the away jersey really bothers me.[/quote]

    I think that is the only thing about the jersey that bugs me… I don’t mind the striping any,and the colors work well on TV. I just pray they don’t add any striping to my Red Wings’ jerseys.[/quote]

    Yeah, the piping didn’t bug me on the Preds. I thought the under sleeve was a little unnecessary..but keep in mind that part of that white area will be covered by blue gloves…so that’ll be broken up a bit.

    I don’t think that players wearing a jersey and shorts is the best way to showcase a new uniform. I like the way the Caps did it…letting you see how all the pieces fit together. We need to see the gloves and pants and socks.

  • Erich | July 20, 2007 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”122048″][quote comment=”122007″][quote comment=”122000″]The Preds sweaters are so ugly they look like a cheap knock off you’d find on the sale rack at Wall-Mart.[/quote]

    Maybe it’s just me, but a lot of people here just seem to hate change of any kind. I really don’t see what’s so totally reprehensible about the new Preds jersey or the leaked Penguins jersey from yesterday. Again, maybe I’m misinterpreting the “Is it good, or is it stupid” adage, but I like the Preds and the ‘Guins sweaters/jerseys. Aside from the wordmark on the Preds roads, I don’t object to the treatment they’ve given it. The piping all over the place is a bit distracting, but that’s part of the template, and I guess we’ll have to live with it.[/quote]

    Yeah…if anyone has that Pens image, that would be great. Link’s dead.

    I agree with GoTerriers, here. I think that no matter what, this board always seems to rail against changes…especially if a team tries to innovate or go in a different direction. Not every team has a long tradition to uphold. So why not try something new?[/quote]
    Check this thread…
    http://www.letsgoblu...

  • Banker Bill | July 20, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”122042″][quote comment=”122036″][quote comment=”122035″][quote comment=”122031″][quote comment=”121981″]Those new Nashville Predators uniforms are awful.

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    I agree…w hich is why I decided to go ahead and fix them.

    http://www.checkingl...

    It’s amazing the difference those subtle changes made. Your corrected jerseys look a lot better.[/quote]

    I agree. Get rid of the side-piping and we might have something that approaches respectability.[/quote]

    I’m guessing they aren’t going with the third jersey anymore?[/quote]

    All third jerseys are shelved this season.

  • Mike Engle | July 20, 2007 at 11:17 am |

    Wow! On second look, I’m ready to proclaim the Pittsburgh Penguins jerseys a slight improvement! I think the pale yellow got replaced in favor of a cooler metallic gold (not that it will match Marc-Andre Fleury anyway) and the side panels are thick stripes–not exactly “old-school” but better than the triangles on the sides.

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 11:19 am |

    [quote comment=”122060″][quote comment=”122048″][quote comment=”122007″][quote comment=”122000″]The Preds sweaters are so ugly they look like a cheap knock off you’d find on the sale rack at Wall-Mart.[/quote]

    Maybe it’s just me, but a lot of people here just seem to hate change of any kind. I really don’t see what’s so totally reprehensible about the new Preds jersey or the leaked Penguins jersey from yesterday. Again, maybe I’m misinterpreting the “Is it good, or is it stupid” adage, but I like the Preds and the ‘Guins sweaters/jerseys. Aside from the wordmark on the Preds roads, I don’t object to the treatment they’ve given it. The piping all over the place is a bit distracting, but that’s part of the template, and I guess we’ll have to live with it.[/quote]

    Yeah…if anyone has that Pens image, that would be great. Link’s dead.

    I agree with GoTerriers, here. I think that no matter what, this board always seems to rail against changes…especially if a team tries to innovate or go in a different direction. Not every team has a long tradition to uphold. So why not try something new?[/quote]
    Check this thread…
    http://www.letsgoblu...“[/quote]

    Wow…now THOSE are pretty lousy. And scroll down and check out the SHORTS they’ll be wearing with them! Gah!

  • Banker Bill | July 20, 2007 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”122050″]I’m a New Hampshire native, and Fisher Cats are VERY real. Ask anyone who has an outdoor cat for a pet. Fisher cats tend to attack pet cats.

    Primaries was a cool name. I don’t really remember an uproar about the name, all I remember was that they changed it. I think they had a contest where people could vote for the name they wanted…and Fisher Cats won.

    I’ll be at that game on the 25th. I’m singing the National Anthem.[/quote]

    AWESOME Nate! I have sang the anthem at minor league baseball games in the past as well – it’s a blast! I did the Hudson Valley Renegades game against the old St. Catherine’s (Ontario) Stompers – had to do the American AND Canadian anthems! Have fun with it!

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”122064″]Wow! On second look, I’m ready to proclaim the Pittsburgh Penguins jerseys a slight improvement! I think the pale yellow got replaced in favor of a cooler metallic gold (not that it will match Marc-Andre Fleury anyway) and the side panels are thick stripes–not exactly “old-school” but better than the triangles on the sides.[/quote]

    Seems like the same shade of gold they use on the current uniforms…just that there’s a LOT more of it makes it seem a bit of a deeper color.

    Personally, I don’t think it can get worse than the unis they wore when Jagr was there…with the black where the yellow faded to grey across the jersey (behind the newer logo). I think it’s great that they went back to the skating penguin.

    I don’t think these are the worst I’ve ever seen…but as far as all the new unis that are being released with the RBK Edge roll-out, I think these are currently at the bottom of the class.

  • Chance | July 20, 2007 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”122007″]The piping all over the place is a bit distracting, but that’s part of the template, and I guess we’ll have to live with it.[/quote]

    Nope.

    Teams can choose to retain classic styling. Any team who opts for this piped monstrosity deserves the derision it gets.

  • Chico Mike | July 20, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    The Surhoff uni looks nice, until you notice the socks are fake stirrups.

  • Broker75 | July 20, 2007 at 11:47 am |

    I don’t mind ‘Nashville’ over top the logo. But the away jersey bothers me. The front looks as if they ran out of material. It’s a quarter length in color!..what the hell is that,..oh I know, unnecessary. Doesn’t matter, they’re moving out of town soon anyways.

  • Frankie | July 20, 2007 at 11:48 am |

    In regards to the topic of wearing gear from teams that you don’t support… Go for it! I’m a HUGE Giants fan (even though they’re unbearable to watch this season), but I have a hat for every team other than the Dodgers (I could never bring myself to buy one, even if they do have nice unis). Now that I have one for every team, I’m moving into the throwback and minor league department. At the All-Star Fanfest they had a section with every hat for every minor league team and I purchased the Fresno Grizzlies 2nd alternate hat. I was so close to also buying a Charlotte Knight’s hat, but I was going to the homerun derby after and decided I needed money for the Giants’ famous garlic fries.

  • Eric | July 20, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    Hockey sweaters need horizontal stripes, look at every original 6 teams, the thicker and simpler the better in my opinion, none of this modern thin stripe crap

  • Kerry | July 20, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”122078″]In regards to the topic of wearing gear from teams that you don’t support… Go for it! I’m a HUGE Giants fan (even though they’re unbearable to watch this season), but I have a hat for every team other than the Dodgers (I could never bring myself to buy one, even if they do have nice unis). Now that I have one for every team, I’m moving into the throwback and minor league department. At the All-Star Fanfest they had a section with every hat for every minor league team and I purchased the Fresno Grizzlies 2nd alternate hat. I was so close to also buying a Charlotte Knight’s hat, but I was going to the homerun derby after and decided I needed money for the Giants’ famous garlic fries.[/quote]
    I couldn’t agree more. The majority of the hats I own are for the teams which I support…but I do have several hats that just look freakin’ cool!

    Really, where’s the harm in that? I think it’s a little different if you’re buying one of the Yankees caps in one of 8,945 different color combinations – but I like obscure logos and hats.

  • Brad | July 20, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    Is there another Uni Watch junkie at Rice?! Show yourself!

  • DenverGregg | July 20, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”122055″]Wow are those new Predators jerseys horrible!

    I agree with the comments here on the Primaries. What a great nickname and logo. Joe Drennan is 100% right though. The donkey should be on the left and the elephant on the right. If they realy wanted to have fun they could have put Ross Perot in the middle.[/quote]
    Or, to be bipartisan, a weasel . . . .

  • Teebz | July 20, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    I have a full write-up on the Nashville uniform debacle here. The Penguins’ leaked jersey photos are on the same blog entry.

    San Jose’s unveiling happens Monday. Is anyone going to that?

    JC, please email me in regards to the Flyers’ unveiling. My email is on my blog. I just want to touch base with you.

  • DenverGregg | July 20, 2007 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”122048″][quote comment=”122007″][quote comment=”122000″]The Preds sweaters are so ugly they look like a cheap knock off you’d find on the sale rack at Wall-Mart.[/quote]

    Maybe it’s just me, but a lot of people here just seem to hate change of any kind. I really don’t see what’s so totally reprehensible about the new Preds jersey or the leaked Penguins jersey from yesterday. Again, maybe I’m misinterpreting the “Is it good, or is it stupid” adage, but I like the Preds and the ‘Guins sweaters/jerseys. Aside from the wordmark on the Preds roads, I don’t object to the treatment they’ve given it. The piping all over the place is a bit distracting, but that’s part of the template, and I guess we’ll have to live with it.[/quote]

    Yeah…if anyone has that Pens image, that would be great. Link’s dead.

    I agree with GoTerriers, here. I think that no matter what, this board always seems to rail against changes…especially if a team tries to innovate or go in a different direction. Not every team has a long tradition to uphold. So why not try something new?[/quote]
    Just a few days ago there was a lot of talk about the new Sharks logo – almost all positive. A few weeks further back, major praise for the new Bruins’ unis. It’s a mixed bag, just like the looks that inspire the comments.

  • todd krevanchi | July 20, 2007 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”122013″][quote comment=”122009″]Not to sound totally stupid but what is the thing pictured next to the column today and what does it have to do with cleats? It looks like something on a dock I’d tie a boat to.[/quote]

    You are thinking correctly. It is a nautical cleat.[/quote]

    wouldnt this have been a better pic?
    http://www.msight.co...

  • DenverGregg | July 20, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”122050″]I’m a New Hampshire native, and Fisher Cats are VERY real. Ask anyone who has an outdoor cat for a pet. Fisher cats tend to attack pet cats.

    Primaries was a cool name. I don’t really remember an uproar about the name, all I remember was that they changed it. I think they had a contest where people could vote for the name they wanted…and Fisher Cats won.

    I’ll be at that game on the 25th. I’m singing the National Anthem.[/quote]
    Congrats on the gig!

  • Jason | July 20, 2007 at 12:03 pm |

    The Pens jersey looks bad. I’ll be keeping my old one.

  • Teebz | July 20, 2007 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”122086″]
    Just a few days ago there was a lot of talk about the new Sharks logo – almost all positive. A few weeks further back, major praise for the new Bruins’ unis. It’s a mixed bag, just like the looks that inspire the comments.[/quote]

    As a hockey guy, I hate the new Sharks’ logo. They’ve made their brand “cheap” with the new logo. You don’t see the Bruins or the Leafs or the Rangers or the Blackhawks making more cartoonish changes. They stick to the tradition, and it works because people associate with that brand and logo.

    As bad as the Sharks’ old logo is, it is a brand. Their cartoonish logo is what made the Sharks’ logo so recognizable. By “updating” it, you lose something that made you identifiably different and unique.

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”122086″][quote comment=”122048″][quote comment=”122007″][quote comment=”122000″]The Preds sweaters are so ugly they look like a cheap knock off you’d find on the sale rack at Wall-Mart.[/quote]

    Maybe it’s just me, but a lot of people here just seem to hate change of any kind. I really don’t see what’s so totally reprehensible about the new Preds jersey or the leaked Penguins jersey from yesterday. Again, maybe I’m misinterpreting the “Is it good, or is it stupid” adage, but I like the Preds and the ‘Guins sweaters/jerseys. Aside from the wordmark on the Preds roads, I don’t object to the treatment they’ve given it. The piping all over the place is a bit distracting, but that’s part of the template, and I guess we’ll have to live with it.[/quote]

    Yeah…if anyone has that Pens image, that would be great. Link’s dead.

    I agree with GoTerriers, here. I think that no matter what, this board always seems to rail against changes…especially if a team tries to innovate or go in a different direction. Not every team has a long tradition to uphold. So why not try something new?[/quote]
    Just a few days ago there was a lot of talk about the new Sharks logo – almost all positive. A few weeks further back, major praise for the new Bruins’ unis. It’s a mixed bag, just like the looks that inspire the comments.[/quote]

    Yeah…but the Bruins change didn’t skew toward the “new.” It was VERY rooted in a traditional Bruins look (as it should be).

    I mean if the Bruins had side panels and piping, this place would have melted down. lol.

    More often than not, when teams try something new, it’s not well-received, I think. Which is cool…it means that overall, folks ’round these parts favor traditional looks.

  • SWC Susan | July 20, 2007 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”121968″]New Hampshire Primaries? Now that was a fantastic team name. Fun but not gimmicky, and unique to the region. Perfect. What was the source of the uproar and why did the owners cave?

    Fisher Cats is just so uninspired. There are so many teams that are This-Cats (whether referring to cats or catfish) or That-Dogs. Blecch.[/quote]

    Found a really neat article from last year on minor league baseball team names while I was trying to figure out why the Midland Cubs (later Angels) I knew growing up changed their name. [Apologies if this was posted a year ago!] I think I found that answer here – it is of course, all about branding. The article lists a neat table with a summary of where some of the names came from. However, what does a dog have to do with a rockhound? While a great idea for a team name from the geologist heavy west Texas, I think they missed on this one. I mean really… wouldn’t an angry trilobite have been much better?

  • howie | July 20, 2007 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”122050″]I’m a New Hampshire native, and Fisher Cats are VERY real. Ask anyone who has an outdoor cat for a pet. Fisher cats tend to attack pet cats.

    Primaries was a cool name. I don’t really remember an uproar about the name, all I remember was that they changed it. I think they had a contest where people could vote for the name they wanted…and Fisher Cats won.

    I’ll be at that game on the 25th. I’m singing the National Anthem.[/quote]

    I lived in NH when the F-Cats were formed. As I recall, the fans didn’t take the Primaries seriously and when they realized that was the team name the uproar started.
    Primaries is (was) a great name…Fishercats is generic (not specific to NH) and they are pests. The local paper refers to them as the “Fishers”, so when they play the Portland SeaDogs, the natural headline is, of course, “Fishers bite Dogs.” Morons.
    When ESPN did their 50 SportCenters from the 50 states a couple of years ago, they were at an F-Cats game and asked several fans what a Fishercat was. Nobody had any idea.

    This season they seemed to be wearing the black alternates 90% of the time at home…Shoulda stuck with red, white and blue and a pretty unique name.
    So, the best thing to come out of NH is still I-93!!!

  • Eric | July 20, 2007 at 12:15 pm |

    My personal policy: I’m a Yankees fan, so Red Sox hats and Mets hats are out of the question (fiercest rivals). Aside from that, all other hats are fair game, and bonus points go to retro styles. For instance, I have a standard Yankees 5950 (it’s my team), an all-teal Marlins 5950 (found it at a flea market last May, got it for the “Look what I found!” factor. Plus it’s better than the blackout hats.), and a pinwheel Expos hat by American Needle because it’s one-of-a-kind and I’m moving to Montreal soon.[/quote]

    As a Boston Fan (primarily Red Sox and Pats) I would never wear anything else but those two. At least for the Sox there are at least a hundred syles of hats to choose from.

    Now my kids will where their little league hats and I have no problems with that. I always felt bad for any kid on the Yankees in our majors and AAA Little League as those kids will never wear their Yankees cap outside of playing a game.

    My kids have been Angels, Diamondbacks, and Brewers. When they were in the younger divisions, minor league names and hats are the rule. We have had Bees, Express, RiverDogs, SandGnats, and LookOuts.

  • Phil Pereira | July 20, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    Never fear, critics of the Nashville Predators new look, next year they’ll be in Kansas City and the whole arugment will be moot lol

    Actually, I’m sure it’ll fall through like the Penguins did. KC seems to make for a good bargaining chip

  • Terri | July 20, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”122051″][quote comment=”122050″]I’m a New Hampshire native, and Fisher Cats are VERY real. Ask anyone who has an outdoor cat for a pet. Fisher cats tend to attack pet cats.

    Primaries was a cool name. I don’t really remember an uproar about the name, all I remember was that they changed it. I think they had a contest where people could vote for the name they wanted…and Fisher Cats won.

    I’ll be at that game on the 25th. I’m singing the National Anthem.[/quote]
    So what are the last two words of the National Anthem?[/quote]

    Play ball!

  • Frankie | July 20, 2007 at 12:18 pm |

    I have to admit though that I do have an all-white Giants hat, a brown Giants hat, and a black Giants hat with the city skyline in black velvet stuff. I was only able to convince mysekf these purchases were acceptable because I am a Giants fan and I just really liked them. Haha. but my next purchase is most likely going to be this White Sox 1917 inspired hat.

  • Shaftman | July 20, 2007 at 12:22 pm |

    Teebz:

    Is that photo that was being shown of the Islanders’s jersey official now?

  • Frankie | July 20, 2007 at 12:22 pm |

    Oh, and one of the sotres at the local mall where I live sell the all teal Marlines hats. They have about 20 of them. One thing I noticed about them though is that the logo is mainly to the left of the center of the cap, whereas on the black ones, the F of the logo runs directly through the center of the hat.

  • Jordan | July 20, 2007 at 12:27 pm |

    random comment, but it sort of fits with the fishercats theme. if the nets were to move to brooklyn, i would prefer a redesign if not a complete renaming, what are the odds of that, and what should they be called instead?

  • furrymunsters | July 20, 2007 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”122007″][quote comment=”122000″]The Preds sweaters are so ugly they look like a cheap knock off you’d find on the sale rack at Wall-Mart.[/quote]

    Maybe it’s just me, but a lot of people here just seem to hate change of any kind. I really don’t see what’s so totally reprehensible about the new Preds jersey or the leaked Penguins jersey from yesterday. Again, maybe I’m misinterpreting the “Is it good, or is it stupid” adage, but I like the Preds and the ‘Guins sweaters/jerseys. Aside from the wordmark on the Preds roads, I don’t object to the treatment they’ve given it. The piping all over the place is a bit distracting, but that’s part of the template, and I guess we’ll have to live with it.[/quote]
    All of the new NHL jerseys suck.

  • Mike Engle | July 20, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”122104″]random comment, but it sort of fits with the fishercats theme. if the nets were to move to brooklyn, i would prefer a redesign if not a complete renaming, what are the odds of that, and what should they be called instead?[/quote]
    Let them be the New York Nets and give them the Dr. J jerseys. End.

  • Nick Maibroda | July 20, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    Does anyone have a pics of the new Pittsburg Penguins jersey. I looked through yesterday’s comments section, but the images are no longer there. I didn’t notice any links in today blog, but I may have missed then, I tried not to get caught looking at jerseys all day at work. Thanks for the help!

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”122106″][quote comment=”122104″]random comment, but it sort of fits with the fishercats theme. if the nets were to move to brooklyn, i would prefer a redesign if not a complete renaming, what are the odds of that, and what should they be called instead?[/quote]
    Let them be the New York Nets and give them the Dr. J jerseys. End.[/quote]

    Call them the Brooklyn Spikes, and make Spike Lee’s Mars Blackman character the mascot! “It’s Gotta be the SHoes!”

  • Marty Met | July 20, 2007 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”122098″]Never fear, critics of the Nashville Predators new look, next year they’ll be in Kansas City and the whole arugment will be moot lol

    Actually, I’m sure it’ll fall through like the Penguins did. KC seems to make for a good bargaining chip[/quote]

    Nah, They’ll be in Hamilton

  • Joe Drennan | July 20, 2007 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”122106″][quote comment=”122104″]random comment, but it sort of fits with the fishercats theme. if the nets were to move to brooklyn, i would prefer a redesign if not a complete renaming, what are the odds of that, and what should they be called instead?[/quote]
    Let them be the New York Nets and give them the Dr. J jerseys. End.[/quote]
    Keep them the New jersey Nets. If the New York Football Ginats can play in jersey and still be claim they’re from New York, why can’t the nets play in New York and claim they’re still from jersy?

  • patrick | July 20, 2007 at 12:42 pm |

    I just created my fantasy team through the English Premiere League website and I must say, i was pleasantly surprised.
    1) When you pikc your “team” you get to design a kit. 3 options for shirt, plain, hoops, stripes. No choice for shorts (one color) and socks can be plain, or have stripes (only 2 stripes, above the shinguard area).
    2) When you actually select your players, a little graphic of the CURRENT jersey is added. It even has a note on the bottom that kits will be updted as they are released/approved by the FA.

    Good to see they are accurate and up to date, three cheers for FA.

  • Shadeymonk | July 20, 2007 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”122114″][quote comment=”122106″][quote comment=”122104″]random comment, but it sort of fits with the fishercats theme. if the nets were to move to brooklyn, i would prefer a redesign if not a complete renaming, what are the odds of that, and what should they be called instead?[/quote]
    Let them be the New York Nets and give them the Dr. J jerseys. End.[/quote]
    Keep them the New jersey Nets. If the New York Football Ginats can play in jersey and still be claim they’re from New York, why can’t the nets play in New York and claim they’re still from jersy?[/quote]

    Brooklyn Nets I believe… remember these pics from when they bought the team?

    http://gothamist.com...

    http://www.cantstopt...

  • Micah | July 20, 2007 at 12:47 pm |

    Todd,

    I knew that you would be all over this post today. G6 Conversions huh?? Classic shoe. I’m sure you have seen that 9-page post on NT about Griffey breaking out the old Griffey Max cleat; it’s fire in that red colorway he wore in the All-Star Game. Remember when Sheffield wore the royal blue Hyperflights when he was with the Dodgers?

  • derek | July 20, 2007 at 12:56 pm |

    I actually like all of the new nhl uniforms, maybe its because i’m young and i didnt grow up watching the teams wear classic uniforms. I think nashvilles’s jersys is a great improvement. I am all for the new style of the nhl.

  • patrick | July 20, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”122030″][quote comment=”121964″]Vince, you do remember the Flyers unveiling is September 16th?

    On the subject of cleats, I always wanted to pick a kicker’s brain on how they choose the two different cleats, for kicking and non-kicking feet.[/quote]

    While searching for a picture of the shoe I wore while kicking I ran across a site that does a good job of explaining the use of two diferent kicking shoes scroll down to equipment.[/quote]

    I kicked in HS, and it seems to me, that the kicking/nonkicking thing is just about phased out. Theres no reason you need a “non kicking” cleat, especially if all you do is kick (like me) I wore Adidas Karnivor IIs, same as I wore for soccer.

  • Luke Larson | July 20, 2007 at 1:01 pm |

    two things in curtis granderson’s espn blog today… apparently, he doesn’t like the cool-max jerseys. also, craig monroe has been wearing a special pair of cleats this season that were designed by gray sheffield.

  • S Bennett | July 20, 2007 at 1:11 pm |

    Maybe it’s just me, but a lot of people here just seem to hate change of any kind. I really don’t see what’s so totally reprehensible about the new Preds jersey or the leaked Penguins jersey from yesterday. Again, maybe I’m misinterpreting the “Is it good, or is it stupid” adage, but I like the Preds and the ‘Guins sweaters/jerseys.

    I thnk the whites look like practise sweaters, which doesn’t inspire me to want to go out an buy one. The silver and white all looks whote to me.

    SB

  • S Bennett | July 20, 2007 at 1:24 pm |

    As a hockey guy, I hate the new Sharks’ logo. They’ve made their brand “cheap” with the new logo. You don’t see the Bruins or the Leafs or the Rangers or the Blackhawks making more cartoonish changes.

    Actually the Leafs went cartoonish years ago.

    The Habs have also poked aorund with their iconic look also

  • Anthony Verna | July 20, 2007 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”122028″]It might be time for “Ditch The Black” to work on a French translation, as the Montreal Alouettes have re-introduced black alternate unis.

    “The players look great,” said 42-year-old Joanne Crevier. “Where can I get my own?”

    For my own sanity, I have to hope she’s asking where she can get herself one of the players.[/quote]

    Jeter le Noir.

    (And that’s zuh-TAY, not #2 for the Yankees.)

  • Original Jim | July 20, 2007 at 1:29 pm |

    From what I read, the reason the Primaries name was booted was because people were sick of politics at the time. The residents wanted to know the state was known for more than just elections every four years, and the logo itself alienated third party candidates.

    And with the Bush “non” election still fresh in everyone’s memory, it was decided that a politically-themed identity was not in the best interest of the team.

    It was a great name and logo, but not worth the aggravation.

    And I believe it was also done by Dan Simon of Studio Simon.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | July 20, 2007 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”122119″]Todd,

    I knew that you would be all over this post today. G6 Conversions huh?? Classic shoe. I’m sure you have seen that 9-page post on NT about Griffey breaking out the old Griffey Max cleat; it’s fire in that red colorway he wore in the All-Star Game. Remember when Sheffield wore the royal blue Hyperflights when he was with the Dodgers?[/quote]

    and i knew you’d be all over it as well!
    ive read bits and pieces of the griffey max post more so to see the red all star PE up close.

    the use of hoops shoes in baseball and football has always been of interest to me, back to when ronnie lott wore the aj iv’s in super bowl xxiv.

    oh and these?
    http://cache.gettyim...

  • Shadeymonk | July 20, 2007 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”122127″]As a hockey guy, I hate the new Sharks’ logo. They’ve made their brand “cheap” with the new logo. You don’t see the Bruins or the Leafs or the Rangers or the Blackhawks making more cartoonish changes.

    Actually the Leafs went cartoonish years ago.

    The Habs have also poked aorund with their iconic look also[/quote]

    There’s nothing wrong with change, it’s just the current theme seems to be adding more staff and really making the logos more complicated. Change can be good, such as Anaheim’s change last year. Washington’s and Columbus’s changes were also an improvement over their old logos and while the uniforms look strange alone, when put with the rest of the equipment look pretty decent. I personally don’t have much of an issue with the new Sharks logo as I feel the shark itself is better. The Nashville jerseys don’t look bad because they changed, but because they have that unnecessary piping that makes an apron affect on the sweaters and the word-mark above the logo looks strange. The short sleeve shirt affect on the road jersey’s is also odd. Sometime’s simplicity can look better. Like the new Bruins uniforms.

  • Kyle at IU | July 20, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”122096″]My personal policy: I’m a Yankees fan, so Red Sox hats and Mets hats are out of the question (fiercest rivals). Aside from that, all other hats are fair game, and bonus points go to retro styles. For instance, I have a standard Yankees 5950 (it’s my team), an all-teal Marlins 5950 (found it at a flea market last May, got it for the “Look what I found!” factor. Plus it’s better than the blackout hats.), and a pinwheel Expos hat by American Needle because it’s one-of-a-kind and I’m moving to Montreal soon.[/quote]

    As a Boston Fan (primarily Red Sox and Pats) I would never wear anything else but those two. At least for the Sox there are at least a hundred syles of hats to choose from.

    Now my kids will where their little league hats and I have no problems with that. I always felt bad for any kid on the Yankees in our majors and AAA Little League as those kids will never wear their Yankees cap outside of playing a game.

    My kids have been Angels, Diamondbacks, and Brewers. When they were in the younger divisions, minor league names and hats are the rule. We have had Bees, Express, RiverDogs, SandGnats, and LookOuts.[/quote]

    A friend of mine has a policy that I’ve kinda picked up as well. Whenever he goes to a baseball game at a park he hasn’t been to, he buys the home team’s 5950. He has Nats, Phillies, Brewers (newer one, unfortunately), and I think Reds and Mariners, to name a few.

    I want to do the same thing, but I never have enough extra money to support buying authentic hats. I have an adjustable cubs hat, a Nats 5950 that has gotten too small, and, my fave, an american needle 1917 White Sox hat. I had an orioles hat and a cardinals bird-on-bat hat somewhere, but I have no idea what’s happened to them.

  • Micah | July 20, 2007 at 1:40 pm |

    Yep, those are the ones! I commented on a post on NT when people where talking about the use of basketball shoes in baseball about how I wondered how long that upper would have lasted since we all know how fragile the Hypers where. That review that Dr. K wrote on Kicksology.net; I still remember how he lambasted that shoe; LOL. Good times and oh how I miss that site……

  • patrick | July 20, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”122104″]random comment, but it sort of fits with the fishercats theme. if the nets were to move to brooklyn, i would prefer a redesign if not a complete renaming, what are the odds of that, and what should they be called instead?[/quote]

    I would say that you will NOT see that happen. They are still in the the same metropolitan area and will keep many many of their fans, so why the rebranding? It could be that I’m from New York, but I dont see them as really “moving”, just opening a new stadium… If the New York Giants were to move to say, manhattan or Long Island, I wouldnt expect a rebranding. Theyre staying w/in the market, they ahve same ownership, just playing in a new building.

  • Joe Drennan | July 20, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    I have my Cubs 5950 and a 1914 Cubs hat. Oh and my green Cubs had as I’m Irish. Maybe I should branch out some.

  • Christopher | July 20, 2007 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”122051″][quote comment=”122050″]I’m a New Hampshire native, and Fisher Cats are VERY real. Ask anyone who has an outdoor cat for a pet. Fisher cats tend to attack pet cats.

    Primaries was a cool name. I don’t really remember an uproar about the name, all I remember was that they changed it. I think they had a contest where people could vote for the name they wanted…and Fisher Cats won.

    I’ll be at that game on the 25th. I’m singing the National Anthem.[/quote]
    So what are the last two words of the National Anthem?[/quote]

    “GO CATS!!!!”

    Ok, that wasn’t too patriotic. Sorry.

  • Christopher | July 20, 2007 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”121989″][quote comment=”121987″]Okay, so I understand that there was a protest and petition against the name New Hampshire Primaries, but even after reading those links, I still don’t understand WHY.

    It’s a clever name, and I think that original logo is awesome.[/quote]
    Guessing that adherents of the evil party don’t want association with the stupid party and adherents of the stupid party don’t want association with the evil party.[/quote]

    Not to get too political here, but it could maybe be the fact that the logo had a Democrat and Republican icon on it. And some people are offended when people assume there are only two parties in our government system.

    A lot of New Hampshireites are independent, Libertarian, etc.

    (Not trying to get too political here- but it kinda makes sense)

  • Ari | July 20, 2007 at 1:48 pm |

    Yet another old-time football movie coming soon is “Leatherheads” with George Clooney. (http://imdb.com/titl...) My company is working on the posters, and it’s been real fun applying my uniwatch knowledge and research to making sure the rest of the Art Director’s stay period appropriate. Can’t wait for it to release and hear the most particular of you pick it apart!

  • ThresherK | July 20, 2007 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”122050″]I’m a New Hampshire native, and Fisher Cats are VERY real.[/quote]

    The actual fisher cat is related to the badger or wolverine, and can be very nasty. I don’t know of another team named for them, so bonus points for the uniqueness. Much better than if they kept Ravens from when the team moved from New Haven.

    When it comes to a TwoNamed team I’m waiting for a southern team to be named the TigerHounds, as (from Florence King) Tiger is supposed a favorite name for hunting dogs there.

    Oh, and the unadulterated Preds dark sweater? Take off the numbers and it looks like a basketball warmup.

  • Shadeymonk | July 20, 2007 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”122139″][quote comment=”122104″]random comment, but it sort of fits with the fishercats theme. if the nets were to move to brooklyn, i would prefer a redesign if not a complete renaming, what are the odds of that, and what should they be called instead?[/quote]

    I would say that you will NOT see that happen. They are still in the the same metropolitan area and will keep many many of their fans, so why the rebranding? It could be that I’m from New York, but I dont see them as really “moving”, just opening a new stadium… If the New York Giants were to move to say, manhattan or Long Island, I wouldnt expect a rebranding. Theyre staying w/in the market, they ahve same ownership, just playing in a new building.[/quote]

    I’ll say it again:
    Brooklyn Nets I believe… remember these pics from when they bought the team?

    http://gothamist.com...

    http://www.cantstopt...

  • ThresherK | July 20, 2007 at 1:55 pm |

    Speaking of cleats by any other spelling…

  • Teebz | July 20, 2007 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”122102″]Teebz:

    Is that photo that was being shown of the Islanders’s jersey official now?[/quote]

    Not yet. They haven’t officially had the unveiling. However, since there are several similar prototypes in that picture, I’d say that it will be pretty close to the final model.

  • Kerry | July 20, 2007 at 1:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”122142″][quote comment=”121989″][quote comment=”121987″]Okay, so I understand that there was a protest and petition against the name New Hampshire Primaries, but even after reading those links, I still don’t understand WHY.

    It’s a clever name, and I think that original logo is awesome.[/quote]
    Guessing that adherents of the evil party don’t want association with the stupid party and adherents of the stupid party don’t want association with the evil party.[/quote]

    Not to get too political here, but it could maybe be the fact that the logo had a Democrat and Republican icon on it. And some people are offended when people assume there are only two parties in our government system.

    A lot of New Hampshireites are independent, Libertarian, etc.

    (Not trying to get too political here- but it kinda makes sense)[/quote]
    Possibly – but if the problem was with the logo then wouldn’t they have just changed the logo? Just eliminated the elephant and donkey?

    Personally, I think the name is GREAT! It fits very nicely and works well. In response to the blog link related to this, I think that Primaries is a MUCH BETTER nickname than Blaze – especially in minor league baseball.

  • Ron | July 20, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”122031″][quote comment=”121981″]Those new Nashville Predators uniforms are awful.

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    I agree…w hich is why I decided to go ahead and fix them.

    http://www.checkingl...
    Agreed the Nashville Jersey are terrible, the dark jersey seem like they are wearing a short sleeve shirt with a white long sleeve under shirt.

    I like your fixes better.

  • Ron | July 20, 2007 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”122085″]I have a full write-up on the Nashville uniform debacle here. The Penguins’ leaked jersey photos are on the same blog entry.

    San Jose’s unveiling happens Monday. Is anyone going to that?

    JC, please email me in regards to the Flyers’ unveiling. My email is on my blog. I just want to touch base with you.[/quote]
    It is actually the logo to be unveiled, the uniforms I understand will be later.

  • Shaftman | July 20, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”122149″][quote comment=”122102″]Teebz:

    Is that photo that was being shown of the Islanders’s jersey official now?[/quote]

    Not yet. They haven’t officially had the unveiling. However, since there are several similar prototypes in that picture, I’d say that it will be pretty close to the final model.[/quote]

    I think I’m going to cry…and not tears of happiness.

  • Teebz | July 20, 2007 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”122153″][quote comment=”122085″]
    San Jose’s unveiling happens Monday. Is anyone going to that?
    [/quote]
    It is actually the logo to be unveiled, the uniforms I understand will be later.[/quote]

    That’s true, but I’m quite sure that the unveiling will still be a big “hurrah”. San Jose is the only team thus far to have significantly change their logo.

  • UW justin | July 20, 2007 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”122158″][quote comment=”122153″][quote comment=”122085″]
    San Jose’s unveiling happens Monday. Is anyone going to that?
    [/quote]
    It is actually the logo to be unveiled, the uniforms I understand will be later.[/quote]

    That’s true, but I’m quite sure that the unveiling will still be a big “hurrah”. San Jose is the only team thus far to have significantly change their logo.[/quote]

    Other than the Caps…

  • SWC Susan | July 20, 2007 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”122145″][quote comment=”122050″]I’m a New Hampshire native, and Fisher Cats are VERY real.[/quote]

    The actual fisher cat is related to the badger or wolverine, and can be very nasty. I don’t know of another team named for them, so bonus points for the uniqueness. Much better than if they kept Ravens from when the team moved from New Haven.

    When it comes to a TwoNamed team I’m waiting for a southern team to be named the TigerHounds, as (from Florence King) Tiger is supposed a favorite name for hunting dogs there.

    Oh, and the unadulterated Preds dark sweater? Take off the numbers and it looks like a basketball warmup.[/quote]

    That’s it! I have been trying to figure out what it reminded me of…

  • Matt from LA | July 20, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    Many cheers to Paul for the video entry on Page2. Great stuff. Enjoy the vacation, I’m on one too and I can’t get away from UniWatch.

    On the hat discussion…I’m a true blue Dodgers fan and I could not bring myself to wear a Giants hat but I would buy one for the sake of collecting them all. I have discovered that there are some great minor league logos. The now old Spokane Indians hat is one I picked up a few months back.

  • Teebz | July 20, 2007 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”122159″][quote comment=”122158″][quote comment=”122153″][quote comment=”122085″]
    San Jose’s unveiling happens Monday. Is anyone going to that?
    [/quote]
    It is actually the logo to be unveiled, the uniforms I understand will be later.[/quote]

    That’s true, but I’m quite sure that the unveiling will still be a big “hurrah”. San Jose is the only team thus far to have significantly change their logo.[/quote]

    Other than the Caps…[/quote]

    The Caps simply modified their original logo. I wouldn’t say they significantly changed anything, other than going back to a formerly-used, much-loved logo compared to their recent logos.

  • UW justin | July 20, 2007 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”122162″][quote comment=”122159″][quote comment=”122158″][quote comment=”122153″][quote comment=”122085″]
    San Jose’s unveiling happens Monday. Is anyone going to that?
    [/quote]
    It is actually the logo to be unveiled, the uniforms I understand will be later.[/quote]

    That’s true, but I’m quite sure that the unveiling will still be a big “hurrah”. San Jose is the only team thus far to have significantly change their logo.[/quote]

    Other than the Caps…[/quote]

    The Caps simply modified their original logo. I wouldn’t say they significantly changed anything, other than going back to a formerly-used, much-loved logo compared to their recent logos.[/quote]

    Then in that same vein, wouldn’t you say that SJ is just modifing/updating their original logo as well?

  • SWC Susan | July 20, 2007 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”122162″][quote comment=”122159″][quote comment=”122158″][quote comment=”122153″][quote comment=”122085″]
    San Jose’s unveiling happens Monday. Is anyone going to that?
    [/quote]
    It is actually the logo to be unveiled, the uniforms I understand will be later.[/quote]

    That’s true, but I’m quite sure that the unveiling will still be a big “hurrah”. San Jose is the only team thus far to have significantly change their logo.[/quote]

    Other than the Caps…[/quote]

    The Caps simply modified their original logo. I wouldn’t say they significantly changed anything, other than going back to a formerly-used, much-loved logo compared to their recent logos.[/quote]

    Just what exactly did you bring to work in your thermos today….? San Jose is a minor change.

  • CJ | July 20, 2007 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”122142″][quote comment=”121989″][quote comment=”121987″]Okay, so I understand that there was a protest and petition against the name New Hampshire Primaries, but even after reading those links, I still don’t understand WHY.

    It’s a clever name, and I think that original logo is awesome.[/quote]
    Guessing that adherents of the evil party don’t want association with the stupid party and adherents of the stupid party don’t want association with the evil party.[/quote]

    Not to get too political here, but it could maybe be the fact that the logo had a Democrat and Republican icon on it. And some people are offended when people assume there are only two parties in our government system.

    A lot of New Hampshireites are independent, Libertarian, etc.

    (Not trying to get too political here- but it kinda makes sense)[/quote]

    They have an Independant Socialist in the Senate, correct?

    Or is that Vermont?

  • CJ | July 20, 2007 at 2:42 pm |

    Wiki confirms it: Vermont. I wish I knew my Senate better.

  • howie | July 20, 2007 at 2:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”122167″][quote comment=”122142″][quote comment=”121989″][quote comment=”121987″]Okay, so I understand that there was a protest and petition against the name New Hampshire Primaries, but even after reading those links, I still don’t understand WHY.

    It’s a clever name, and I think that original logo is awesome.[/quote]
    Guessing that adherents of the evil party don’t want association with the stupid party and adherents of the stupid party don’t want association with the evil party.[/quote]

    Not to get too political here, but it could maybe be the fact that the logo had a Democrat and Republican icon on it. And some people are offended when people assume there are only two parties in our government system.

    A lot of New Hampshireites are independent, Libertarian, etc.

    (Not trying to get too political here- but it kinda makes sense)[/quote]

    They have an Independant Socialist in the Senate, correct?

    Or is that Vermont?[/quote]
    Just about to correct you on Senator Sanders!

    I have a Primaries hat and t-shirt and the logo is just an Uncle Sam-type character in front of the state of NH.

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”122170″]Washington’s original logo

    Washington’s new logo

    San Jose’s original logo

    San Jose’s new logo, including bent triangle, a new colour introduced, some anime Shark, and a light-rendered shark.

    One has been updated, one has changed significantly.[/quote]

    I really don’t see a problem with the new Shark. I like the light rendering…it’s a little more 3-D than the original logo. Other than the Orange eye, I don’t think the new shark is any more or less cartoony than the original. I like the sharper angles on the fins and the nose.

  • Teebz | July 20, 2007 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”122172″][quote comment=”122170″]Washington’s original logo

    Washington’s new logo

    San Jose’s original logo

    San Jose’s new logo, including bent triangle, a new colour introduced, some anime Shark, and a light-rendered shark.

    One has been updated, one has changed significantly.[/quote]

    I really don’t see a problem with the new Shark. I like the light rendering…it’s a little more 3-D than the original logo. Other than the Orange eye, I don’t think the new shark is any more or less cartoony than the original. I like the sharper angles on the fins and the nose.[/quote]

    … much like an afternoon Disney cartoon.

  • UW justin | July 20, 2007 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”122170″]Washington’s original logo

    Washington’s new logo

    San Jose’s original logo

    San Jose’s new logo, including bent triangle, a new colour introduced, some anime Shark, and a light-rendered shark.

    One has been updated, one has changed significantly.[/quote]

    I guess we’ll just agree to disagree. My point is just that the basics of the logo remain the same…Capitals workmark with a stick for a “T”…and a shark coming out of a triangle biting a stick.

    The thing that makes the Caps logo seem like a lesser change is the overall simplicity of the logo, but in my opinion, that doesn’t make SJ’s updated logo any more significant of a change. They’ve both ‘modernized’ their repective logos with a slight tweaking of colors.

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”122174″][quote comment=”122172″][quote comment=”122170″]Washington’s original logo

    Washington’s new logo

    San Jose’s original logo

    San Jose’s new logo, including bent triangle, a new colour introduced, some anime Shark, and a light-rendered shark.

    One has been updated, one has changed significantly.[/quote]

    I really don’t see a problem with the new Shark. I like the light rendering…it’s a little more 3-D than the original logo. Other than the Orange eye, I don’t think the new shark is any more or less cartoony than the original. I like the sharper angles on the fins and the nose.[/quote]

    … much like an afternoon Disney cartoon.[/quote]

    As opposed to a simple, flat 2-D Shark?

    http://sanctuaries.n...

  • Timmer | July 20, 2007 at 3:08 pm |

    Wikipedia has an informative bit on the Fisher Cats name. Amazingly, in the fan voting, Fisher Cats only won by less than 1%, over “Manchester Millers”.

    I must admit, I’ve lived in New Hampshire for 18 years and had never even heard of a Fisher Cat before the baseball team came here.

  • Teebz | July 20, 2007 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”122176″][quote comment=”122170″]Washington’s original logo

    Washington’s new logo

    San Jose’s original logo

    San Jose’s new logo, including bent triangle, a new colour introduced, some anime Shark, and a light-rendered shark.

    One has been updated, one has changed significantly.[/quote]

    I guess we’ll just agree to disagree. My point is just that the basics of the logo remain the same…Capitals workmark with a stick for a “T”…and a shark coming out of a triangle biting a stick.

    The thing that makes the Caps logo seem like a lesser change is the overall simplicity of the logo, but in my opinion, that doesn’t make SJ’s updated logo any more significant of a change. They’ve both ‘modernized’ their repective logos with a slight tweaking of colors.[/quote]

    Perhaps our definitions of modernizing is different. The Leafs, for example, have modernized their logo over the years. That’s a modernization.

    The Sharks, in my view, is a change due to the fact that they’ve added a new colour, changed the entire look of their logo, and made it more “animé”.

  • Jordan | July 20, 2007 at 3:09 pm |

    yeah i really don’t get the whole it looks like a cartoon.. unless your using photos everything is going to look like a cartoon, to me, a penguin on skates is more cartoony than a shark jumping through triangles…

  • Kevin | July 20, 2007 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”122137″]Yep, those are the ones! I commented on a post on NT when people where talking about the use of basketball shoes in baseball about how I wondered how long that upper would have lasted since we all know how fragile the Hypers where. That review that Dr. K wrote on Kicksology.net; I still remember how he lambasted that shoe; LOL. Good times and oh how I miss that site……[/quote]

    wow he ripped that shoe apart on kO…i wanted that shoe soo bad when it came out…if any1 could find pics of sheff wearing them would be sweeeet.

  • SWC Susan | July 20, 2007 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”122170″]Washington’s original logo

    Washington’s new logo

    San Jose’s original logo

    San Jose’s new logo, including bent triangle, a new colour introduced, some anime Shark, and a light-rendered shark.

    One has been updated, one has changed significantly.[/quote]

    It is all how you look at things…

    I see this and this
    compared to this and this.

    The overall Sharks logo is fairly the same: a triangle, a stick, and a shark, same colors (orange was in the original – now I’ll give you the absence of gray). While the shark is now firecer and more sports logo stylized, it is still a shark coming out of a triangle.

  • Shadeymonk | July 20, 2007 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”122183″]yeah i really don’t get the whole it looks like a cartoon.. unless your using photos everything is going to look like a cartoon, to me, a penguin on skates is more cartoony than a shark jumping through triangles…[/quote]

    I agree with Jordan, they both look like a cartoon to me. And I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing.

  • SWC Susan | July 20, 2007 at 3:21 pm |

    Damn it! My whole post got eaten!

    Point is… The Caps went from a teal and gold Capitol building to an old school inspired red white and blue rendention of their earlier logo.

    The overall Sharks logo is fairly the same: a triangle, a stick, and a shark, same colors (orange was in the original – now I’ll give you the absence of gray). While the shark is now firecer and more sports logo stylized, it is still a shark coming out of a triangle.

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”122189″]Damn it! My whole post got eaten!

    Point is… The Caps went from a teal and gold Capitol building to an old school inspired red white and blue rendention of their earlier logo.

    The overall Sharks logo is fairly the same: a triangle, a stick, and a shark, same colors (orange was in the original – now I’ll give you the absence of gray). While the shark is now firecer and more sports logo stylized, it is still a shark coming out of a triangle.[/quote]

    whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold on, there Tex! Caps never had “teal!” That was blue. It was a sh*tty blue, but don’t file us in with the Teal Empire.

  • SWC Susan | July 20, 2007 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”122186″][quote comment=”122183″]yeah i really don’t get the whole it looks like a cartoon.. unless your using photos everything is going to look like a cartoon, to me, a penguin on skates is more cartoony than a shark jumping through triangles…[/quote]

    I agree with Jordan, they both look like a cartoon to me. And I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing.[/quote]

    This is a cartoon. There is a whimsical nature. The others are just illustrations.

  • Ken | July 20, 2007 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”122190″][quote comment=”122189″]Damn it! My whole post got eaten!

    Point is… The Caps went from a teal and gold Capitol building to an old school inspired red white and blue rendention of their earlier logo.

    The overall Sharks logo is fairly the same: a triangle, a stick, and a shark, same colors (orange was in the original – now I’ll give you the absence of gray). While the shark is now firecer and more sports logo stylized, it is still a shark coming out of a triangle.[/quote]

    whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold on, there Tex! Caps never had “teal!” That was blue. It was a sh*tty blue, but don’t file us in with the Teal Empire.[/quote]

    The Caps were definitely part of the teal moment, there’s no way you can deny that

  • Ken | July 20, 2007 at 3:25 pm |

    teal movement sorry

  • SWC Susan | July 20, 2007 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”122190″][quote comment=”122189″]Damn it! My whole post got eaten!

    Point is… The Caps went from a teal and gold Capitol building to an old school inspired red white and blue rendention of their earlier logo.

    The overall Sharks logo is fairly the same: a triangle, a stick, and a shark, same colors (orange was in the original – now I’ll give you the absence of gray). While the shark is now firecer and more sports logo stylized, it is still a shark coming out of a triangle.[/quote]

    whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold on, there Tex! Caps never had “teal!” That was blue. It was a sh*tty blue, but don’t file us in with the Teal Empire.[/quote]

    LOL!!!!

    Sorry Dan….!!!!!! My bad! Newport blue… whatever they want to call it. Point is, it ain’t red, white, and blue.

    Sweet, I have a earned a nickname!
    – Tex

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”122192″][quote comment=”122190″][quote comment=”122189″]Damn it! My whole post got eaten!

    Point is… The Caps went from a teal and gold Capitol building to an old school inspired red white and blue rendention of their earlier logo.

    The overall Sharks logo is fairly the same: a triangle, a stick, and a shark, same colors (orange was in the original – now I’ll give you the absence of gray). While the shark is now firecer and more sports logo stylized, it is still a shark coming out of a triangle.[/quote]

    whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold on, there Tex! Caps never had “teal!” That was blue. It was a sh*tty blue, but don’t file us in with the Teal Empire.[/quote]

    The Caps were definitely part of the teal moment, there’s no way you can deny that[/quote]

    Yeah…I can deny that.

    These:
    http://kids.nhl.cz/h...
    http://news.bbc.co.u...
    http://www.hokejport...

    Are BLUE, not Teal.

    These are teal-
    http://tbn0.google.c...
    http://www.funmansio...

  • Ken | July 20, 2007 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”122192″][quote comment=”122190″][quote comment=”122189″]Damn it! My whole post got eaten!

    Point is… The Caps went from a teal and gold Capitol building to an old school inspired red white and blue rendention of their earlier logo.

    The overall Sharks logo is fairly the same: a triangle, a stick, and a shark, same colors (orange was in the original – now I’ll give you the absence of gray). While the shark is now firecer and more sports logo stylized, it is still a shark coming out of a triangle.[/quote]

    whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold on, there Tex! Caps never had “teal!” That was blue. It was a sh*tty blue, but don’t file us in with the Teal Empire.[/quote]

    The Caps were definitely part of the teal moment, there’s no way you can deny that[/quote]

    I actually just went back and checked on nhluniforms.com and realized that you are right about it not being teal, compared to the sharks it is definitely blue. However the caps definitely jumped on the black uni bandwagon, and were pioneers of Vegas Gold

  • Ian K | July 20, 2007 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”122176″][quote comment=”122170″]Washington’s original logo

    Washington’s new logo

    San Jose’s original logo

    San Jose’s new logo, including bent triangle, a new colour introduced, some anime Shark, and a light-rendered shark.

    One has been updated, one has changed significantly.[/quote]

    I guess we’ll just agree to disagree. My point is just that the basics of the logo remain the same…Capitals workmark with a stick for a “T”…and a shark coming out of a triangle biting a stick.

    The thing that makes the Caps logo seem like a lesser change is the overall simplicity of the logo, but in my opinion, that doesn’t make SJ’s updated logo any more significant of a change. They’ve both ‘modernized’ their repective logos with a slight tweaking of colors.[/quote]

    At least the Sharks fixed the tape on the hockey stick. Now it looks like the tape wraps all the way around the blade.

  • Teebz | July 20, 2007 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”122196″][quote comment=”122192″][quote comment=”122190″][quote comment=”122189″]Damn it! My whole post got eaten!

    Point is… The Caps went from a teal and gold Capitol building to an old school inspired red white and blue rendention of their earlier logo.

    The overall Sharks logo is fairly the same: a triangle, a stick, and a shark, same colors (orange was in the original – now I’ll give you the absence of gray). While the shark is now firecer and more sports logo stylized, it is still a shark coming out of a triangle.[/quote]

    whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold on, there Tex! Caps never had “teal!” That was blue. It was a sh*tty blue, but don’t file us in with the Teal Empire.[/quote]

    The Caps were definitely part of the teal moment, there’s no way you can deny that[/quote]

    I actually just went back and checked on nhluniforms.com and realized that you are right about it not being teal, compared to the sharks it is definitely blue. However the caps definitely jumped on the black uni bandwagon, and were pioneers of Vegas Gold[/quote]

    … another colour which should be eliminated from certain teams, aka the Penguins.

  • Teebz | July 20, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    Oh, and I like the nickname Susan. ;o)

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”122196″][quote comment=”122192″][quote comment=”122190″][quote comment=”122189″]Damn it! My whole post got eaten!

    Point is… The Caps went from a teal and gold Capitol building to an old school inspired red white and blue rendention of their earlier logo.

    The overall Sharks logo is fairly the same: a triangle, a stick, and a shark, same colors (orange was in the original – now I’ll give you the absence of gray). While the shark is now firecer and more sports logo stylized, it is still a shark coming out of a triangle.[/quote]

    whoa, whoa, WHOA! Hold on, there Tex! Caps never had “teal!” That was blue. It was a sh*tty blue, but don’t file us in with the Teal Empire.[/quote]

    The Caps were definitely part of the teal moment, there’s no way you can deny that[/quote]

    I actually just went back and checked on nhluniforms.com and realized that you are right about it not being teal, compared to the sharks it is definitely blue. However the caps definitely jumped on the black uni bandwagon, and were pioneers of Vegas Gold[/quote]

    Um…yeah. As far as that gold/bronze…I can’t vouch for that. I loathed the black unis. Didn’t mind the gold as trim on the blues and whites….but hated the black and bronze.

    Definitely glad to be back on the red, white, and blue.

  • Thorold Blair | July 20, 2007 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”122066″][quote comment=”122050″]I’m a New Hampshire native, and Fisher Cats are VERY real. Ask anyone who has an outdoor cat for a pet. Fisher cats tend to attack pet cats.

    Primaries was a cool name. I don’t really remember an uproar about the name, all I remember was that they changed it. I think they had a contest where people could vote for the name they wanted…and Fisher Cats won.

    I’ll be at that game on the 25th. I’m singing the National Anthem.[/quote]

    AWESOME Nate! I have sang the anthem at minor league baseball games in the past as well – it’s a blast! I did the Hudson Valley Renegades game against the old St. Catherine’s (Ontario) Stompers – had to do the American AND Canadian anthems! Have fun with it![/quote]

    Go Stompers!!! I mean… come back Stompers!!

  • Chance | July 20, 2007 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”122181″]
    Perhaps our definitions of modernizing is different. The Leafs, for example, have modernized their logo over the years. That’s a modernization.

    The Sharks, in my view, is a change due to the fact that they’ve added a new colour, changed the entire look of their logo, and made it more “animé”.[/quote]

    I would call the new Sharks logo a modernization. They kept the same basic image – front half of shark biting a hockey stick in half, framed by a triangle.

    They changed the presentation, and tweaked the shades of the colors slightly, but the basic layout is the same. That’s a modernization, not a completely new identity.

  • S Bennett | July 20, 2007 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”122170″]Washington’s original logo

    Washington’s new logo

    San Jose’s original logo

    San Jose’s new logo, including bent triangle, a new colour introduced, some anime Shark, and a light-rendered shark.

    One has been updated, one has changed significantly.[/quote]

    First a Question: Why not coloured tape on the butt-end of the stick? It’s just “wood” coloured.

    Question 2 – why a wood based stick anyway? Ther’s like, only 3-4 guys in the whole league who use them – and that includes goalies.

    Statement – I ight be inteh minority, but I liked the swooping eagle Caps logo a lot more than the stupid wordmark – the new wordmark is just new stupid to me. I didn’t like the colours or the stupid slants and “capitals” on the blue / black sweaters, or teh Capitol dome secondary logo but the eagle was cool. It’s only problem was that there seemed to be no reason for the 5 stars. Win something, then add stars!

    SB

  • Chance | July 20, 2007 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”122003″]Fisher Cats may be an uninspiring name. BUT, I defy you to find a cooler sleeve patch. Not a very good picture of it here but it’s the Old Man on the Mountain.
    [/quote]

    How sad, and ironic, that the Old Man no longer exists except on the sleeve patch. By the time the Fisher Cats played their first game, it had collapsed.

  • possum | July 20, 2007 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”122078″]In regards to the topic of wearing gear from teams that you don’t support… Go for it! I’m a HUGE Giants fan (even though they’re unbearable to watch this season), but I have a hat for every team other than the Dodgers (I could never bring myself to buy one, even if they do have nice unis). Now that I have one for every team, I’m moving into the throwback and minor league department. At the All-Star Fanfest they had a section with every hat for every minor league team and I purchased the Fresno Grizzlies 2nd alternate hat. I was so close to also buying a Charlotte Knight’s hat, but I was going to the homerun derby after and decided I needed money for the Giants’ famous garlic fries.[/quote]
    Go for the green Knights cap, I think it looks much sharper than the navy. I went to their home opener this year and picked up a grey BP cap and its low profile.

    Like someone else said, I buy a cap at every new stadium I visit. But being in Minor League heaven down here in NC I mostly go to minor league games. I caught an AquaSox game once when I was in Seattle….that frog gets lots of strange looks down here in the south.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | July 20, 2007 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”122211″][quote comment=”122170″]Washington’s original logo

    Washington’s new logo

    San Jose’s original logo

    San Jose’s new logo, including bent triangle, a new colour introduced, some anime Shark, and a light-rendered shark.

    One has been updated, one has changed significantly.[/quote]

    First a Question: Why not coloured tape on the butt-end of the stick? It’s just “wood” coloured.

    Question 2 – why a wood based stick anyway? Ther’s like, only 3-4 guys in the whole league who use them – and that includes goalies.

    Statement – I ight be inteh minority, but I liked the swooping eagle Caps logo a lot more than the stupid wordmark – the new wordmark is just new stupid to me. I didn’t like the colours or the stupid slants and “capitals” on the blue / black sweaters, or teh Capitol dome secondary logo but the eagle was cool. It’s only problem was that there seemed to be no reason for the 5 stars. Win something, then add stars!

    SB[/quote]

    Question: Do you like Reebok jerseys?

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”122211″][quote comment=”122170″]Washington’s original logo

    Washington’s new logo

    San Jose’s original logo

    San Jose’s new logo, including bent triangle, a new colour introduced, some anime Shark, and a light-rendered shark.

    One has been updated, one has changed significantly.[/quote]

    First a Question: Why not coloured tape on the butt-end of the stick? It’s just “wood” coloured.

    Question 2 – why a wood based stick anyway? Ther’s like, only 3-4 guys in the whole league who use them – and that includes goalies.

    Statement – I ight be inteh minority, but I liked the swooping eagle Caps logo a lot more than the stupid wordmark – the new wordmark is just new stupid to me. I didn’t like the colours or the stupid slants and “capitals” on the blue / black sweaters, or teh Capitol dome secondary logo but the eagle was cool. It’s only problem was that there seemed to be no reason for the 5 stars. Win something, then add stars!

    SB[/quote]

    I didn’t hate the transition over to the blue sweaters. But once they brought in the black, I hated them. The Eagle was a good logo.

    But when it comes down to it. The Caps wordmark just felt right. It might not have been the best choice back in the day…but it’s the way they went…so it’s what resonates with the fans who grew up rooting for them in the 80’s & 90s.

    It limits what they can do for hats and t-shirts, because the whole “logo” is letter based. But so what. It feels right. I’m sure they’ll try to push the new eagle for merchandizing purposes. And the new eagle is growing on me. If they have a hat with that one it…I might consider it.

  • Marty Met | July 20, 2007 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”122139″][quote comment=”122104″]random comment, but it sort of fits with the fishercats theme. if the nets were to move to brooklyn, i would prefer a redesign if not a complete renaming, what are the odds of that, and what should they be called instead?[/quote]

    I would say that you will NOT see that happen. They are still in the the same metropolitan area and will keep many many of their fans, so why the rebranding? It could be that I’m from New York, but I dont see them as really “moving”, just opening a new stadium… If the New York Giants were to move to say, manhattan or Long Island, I wouldnt expect a rebranding. Theyre staying w/in the market, they ahve same ownership, just playing in a new building.[/quote]

    Trust me it’s a moving. I’m THROUGH with the Nets if they go to Brooklyn

  • Kyle at IU | July 20, 2007 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”122220″][quote comment=”122139″][quote comment=”122104″]random comment, but it sort of fits with the fishercats theme. if the nets were to move to brooklyn, i would prefer a redesign if not a complete renaming, what are the odds of that, and what should they be called instead?[/quote]

    I would say that you will NOT see that happen. They are still in the the same metropolitan area and will keep many many of their fans, so why the rebranding? It could be that I’m from New York, but I dont see them as really “moving”, just opening a new stadium… If the New York Giants were to move to say, manhattan or Long Island, I wouldnt expect a rebranding. Theyre staying w/in the market, they ahve same ownership, just playing in a new building.[/quote]

    Trust me it’s a moving. I’m THROUGH with the Nets if they go to Brooklyn[/quote]

    Call ’em the Dodgers. That’d be fun.

    Ok, that probably wouldn’t fly, but still…the new arena’s proximity to the old ebbets field site, the fact that they’re in brooklyn…ok, maybe i’m going a little far.

    They should have a dodgers night or something. White unis, blue script lettering, red numbers.

  • Brian | July 20, 2007 at 4:29 pm |

    I actually like the new shark, minus the orange eye. Kinda makes it look demonic, but the new shark appears to be more aggressive too. The other one just seems to casually swim by and bite the stick but the new one actually looks like it lunged for it. I like it!

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | July 20, 2007 at 4:29 pm |

    Wow! Look what I just found…

    entirely devoted to mascot clipart

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | July 20, 2007 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”122224″]Wow! Look what I just found…

    entirely devoted to mascot clipart[/quote]

    What exactly would make a giraffe angry like that?

  • Chance | July 20, 2007 at 4:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”122211″]

    Statement – I ight be inteh minority, but I liked the swooping eagle Caps logo a lot more than the stupid wordmark – the new wordmark is just new stupid to me. I didn’t like the colours or the stupid slants and “capitals” on the blue / black sweaters, or teh Capitol dome secondary logo but the eagle was cool. It’s only problem was that there seemed to be no reason for the 5 stars. Win something, then add stars![/quote]

    It’s not five stars, it’s three, the same three found on the flag of Washington, DC.

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”122227″][quote comment=”122211″]

    Statement – I ight be inteh minority, but I liked the swooping eagle Caps logo a lot more than the stupid wordmark – the new wordmark is just new stupid to me. I didn’t like the colours or the stupid slants and “capitals” on the blue / black sweaters, or teh Capitol dome secondary logo but the eagle was cool. It’s only problem was that there seemed to be no reason for the 5 stars. Win something, then add stars![/quote]

    It’s not five stars, it’s three, the same three found on the flag of Washington, DC.[/quote]

    She was talking about the eagle from the blue/white sweaters. This one:

    http://rds.yahoo.com...

    5- stars

  • Chance | July 20, 2007 at 4:38 pm |

    Oh, I got it.

    Sorry, I misread the original post.

  • Jason G. | July 20, 2007 at 4:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”122226″][quote comment=”122224″]Wow! Look what I just found…

    entirely devoted to mascot clipart[/quote]

    What exactly would make a giraffe angry like that?[/quote]

    I hate how a lot of characters in logos, look like they’ve been juicing. I see it alot in mens softball. It just looks ridiculous. Anybody mind telling me how a cardinal gets this kind of muscle tone?

  • Dan | July 20, 2007 at 4:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”122231″][quote comment=”122226″][quote comment=”122224″]Wow! Look what I just found…

    entirely devoted to mascot clipart[/quote]

    What exactly would make a giraffe angry like that?[/quote]

    I hate how a lot of characters in logos, look like they’ve been juicing. I see it alot in mens softball. It just looks ridiculous. Anybody mind telling me how a cardinal gets this kind of muscle tone?[/quote]

    By taking a B-12 shot from Miguel Tejada.

  • Jason G. | July 20, 2007 at 4:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”122233″][quote comment=”122231″][quote comment=”122226″][quote comment=”122224″]Wow! Look what I just found…

    entirely devoted to mascot clipart[/quote]

    What exactly would make a giraffe angry like that?[/quote]

    I hate how a lot of characters in logos, look like they’ve been juicing. I see it alot in mens softball. It just looks ridiculous. Anybody mind telling me how a cardinal gets this kind of muscle tone?[/quote]

    By taking a B-12 shot from Miguel Tejada.[/quote]

    Maybe Barry gave it some flax seed oil.

  • SWC Susan (aka Tex) | July 20, 2007 at 4:59 pm |

    “The Ports’ “Salute to Happy Days” will be a game-long celebration of the beloved sitcom”

    Looks more like a game show host to me… Fonzie Bobble arm

    You just never know what you might find on milb.com do you?

  • Mike Engle | July 20, 2007 at 5:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”122235″][quote comment=”122233″][quote comment=”122231″][quote comment=”122226″][quote comment=”122224″]Wow! Look what I just found…

    entirely devoted to mascot clipart[/quote]

    What exactly would make a giraffe angry like that?[/quote]

    I hate how a lot of characters in logos, look like they’ve been juicing. I see it alot in mens softball. It just looks ridiculous. Anybody mind telling me how a cardinal gets this kind of muscle tone?[/quote]

    By taking a B-12 shot from Miguel Tejada.[/quote]

    Maybe Barry gave it some flax seed oil.[/quote]
    Arthritis balm, perhaps?

  • matthew | July 20, 2007 at 5:44 pm |

    shark’s new unis:

  • Stuby | July 20, 2007 at 5:50 pm |

    To me, the Preds new sweaters look like the guys are wearing aprons to whip up a batch of cookies.

  • UW justin | July 20, 2007 at 7:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”122245″]shark’s new unis:
    [/quote]

    Link fixed.

  • ADD | July 20, 2007 at 7:10 pm |

    The new Sharks logo reminds me of the Sewer Sharks

  • Mike Engle | July 20, 2007 at 7:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”122261″][quote comment=”122245″]shark’s new unis:
    [/quote]

    Link fixed.[/quote]
    Where did you get that? I heard the font would change to a more “traditional” varsity athletic-type font, and would have that orange color. This drawing has neither.

  • ;laskfiow | July 20, 2007 at 7:24 pm |

    i bought a milb wool 5950 last night and i need to modify to my head, but i cant find the site to do that. help please

  • Mike Engle | July 20, 2007 at 7:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”122268″]i bought a milb wool 5950 last night and i need to modify to my head, but i cant find the site to do that. help please[/quote]
    Here it is, albeit in a quite loquacious way: {http://bugsandcranks.com/the-clubhouse/a-bugs-cranks-special-report-59fifty-surgery/}

  • UW justin | July 20, 2007 at 7:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”122265″][quote comment=”122261″][quote comment=”122245″]shark’s new unis:
    [/quote]

    Link fixed.[/quote]
    Where did you get that? I heard the font would change to a more “traditional” varsity athletic-type font, and would have that orange color. This drawing has neither.[/quote]

    I don’t think it’s accurate. The shoulder patch is supposed to be a full body shark, not a fin.

    (for the record, I only fixed matthew’s link…)

  • Daryl | July 20, 2007 at 8:25 pm |

    Tony Gwynn can identify which game he was playing in depending on the patch that was on his jersey sleeve.

    Here

  • Jason G. | July 20, 2007 at 8:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”122270″][quote comment=”122268″]i bought a milb wool 5950 last night and i need to modify to my head, but i cant find the site to do that. help please[/quote]
    Here it is, albeit in a quite loquacious way: {http://bugsandcranks.com/the-clubhouse/a-bugs-cranks-special-report-59fifty-surgery/}[/quote]

    While we are somewhat on the topic, I’m thinking about getting an American Needle hat. I’ve never bought one before and was wondering how the sizing ran. Is it the same as a New Era hat or is it different?

  • Stuby | July 20, 2007 at 8:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”122265″][quote comment=”122261″][quote comment=”122245″]shark’s new unis:
    [/quote]

    Link fixed.[/quote]
    Where did you get that? I heard the font would change to a more “traditional” varsity athletic-type font, and would have that orange color. This drawing has neither.[/quote]
    What’s up with that butt stripe on the away sweater?

  • Jeff W | July 20, 2007 at 9:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”122031″][quote comment=”121981″]Those new Nashville Predators uniforms are awful.

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    http://cdn.nhl.com/p...

    I agree…w hich is why I decided to go ahead and fix them.

    http://www.checkingl...

    Perfect.

  • chance | July 20, 2007 at 10:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”122273″][quote comment=”122265″][quote comment=”122261″][quote comment=”122245″]shark’s new unis:
    [/quote]

    Link fixed.[/quote]
    Where did you get that? I heard the font would change to a more “traditional” varsity athletic-type font, and would have that orange color. This drawing has neither.[/quote]

    I don’t think it’s accurate. The shoulder patch is supposed to be a full body shark, not a fin.

    (for the record, I only fixed matthew’s link…)[/quote]

    Yep, that’s a fan creation.

    The shoulder patch doesn’t match what we’ve been told, the numbers and letters don’t match the leaked designs, and if it was genuine it would be credited to Terry Smith Creations, not “AWK Creative Design”.

    Yet another fan concept picked up, passed around the Internets and claimed as genuine.

  • Joemanji | July 20, 2007 at 10:41 pm |

    I’ve been comparing the new and old Sharks logos a lot lately.
    The old logo is so bad, that I’ve actually started to like it a lot. It’s similar to how I enjoy seeing retro logos for older teams.
    Years from now the Sharks are going to wear their “throwbacks”, and people are going to say “Man, look how awesome those were!”

    On a side note, I really wanted to be pleasantly surprised by the new Predators sweaters… but I am so disappointed. They had every opportunity to turn a new leaf and create something awesome.

  • =bg= | July 20, 2007 at 11:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”121969″]I know this story is getting too much coverage, but is appropriate to today’s footwear posts:

    Nike holding off on Vick’s shoe[/quote]

    And just think, when he’s IN JAIL he’ll have to wear prison issue sneakers. What a thug.

  • S Bennett | July 21, 2007 at 1:59 am |

    [quote} Question: Do you like Reebok jerseys?[/quote]

    I’m not sure why you’re even asking the question, seeing as I’m preferring a CCM era sweater design over a Shandow-SK style era sweater design.

    SB

  • S Bennett | July 21, 2007 at 2:05 am |

    [quote]I didn’t hate the transition over to the blue sweaters. But once they brought in the black, I hated them. The Eagle was a good logo.[/quote]

    The black was a sad cash grab based on all of the black that was going down post gangsta-rap. I didn’t understand where the cobalt-ish blue came from; perhaps just a total move away from the hokiest unis in sports for a team not called “Globetrotters”, I guess.

    If the caps stayed red/white/blue and subbed the eagle logo for teh dorky caps lettering, they probably would have the best possible uni for a Washington – or even American-based post original six team. But no…

    SB

  • stani aka the took | July 21, 2007 at 2:24 am |

    [quote comment=”122007″][quote comment=”122000″]The Preds sweaters are so ugly they look like a cheap knock off you’d find on the sale rack at Wall-Mart.[/quote]

    Maybe it’s just me, but a lot of people here just seem to hate change of any kind. I really don’t see what’s so totally reprehensible about the new Preds jersey or the leaked Penguins jersey from yesterday. Again, maybe I’m misinterpreting the “Is it good, or is it stupid” adage, but I like the Preds and the ‘Guins sweaters/jerseys. Aside from the wordmark on the Preds roads, I don’t object to the treatment they’ve given it. The piping all over the place is a bit distracting, but that’s part of the template, and I guess we’ll have to live with it.[/quote]

    well the preds are a new team… this is def. not the red wings or rangers etc., this is also a “new” nhl for a new audience, soooo the reds wanted something flashy and modern looking. i just dont like the yellow stripes on the front it looks like a hoodie with strings to pull the hood closed