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Houston, We Have No Problem Whatsoever

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For years, if I’ve needed an old Astros photo, the first place I’ve looked has been Astros Daily, an excellent blog with loads of great images. What I hadn’t realized, however, until reader James Poisso recently pointed it out to me, is that the site includes a page of video links, which provide a priceless historical survey of what is arguably MLB’s most visually interesting franchise. There’s too much material to describe fully, but here are a few highlights:

  • If, like myself, you’ve only seen Colt .45s uniforms in still photos, check out the very first video link on the page, which features lots of footage showing the Colts’ basic uni plus jackets, ushers’ uniforms, and related merch.
  • You probably know that the Astrodome’s roof had to be painted when outfielders couldn’t pick up the ball against the original ceiling design (which in turn led to the development of Astroturf, because the facility’s original grass wilted and died when sunlight could no longer shine through the painted roof). One of the videos actually shows the roof being painted!
  • There’s plenty of footage showing the team’s shooting star design, one of my longtime favorites.
  • As you might imagine, there’s plenty of footage showing the tequila sunrise design, including some good shots of the original bullseye version.
  • According to Dressed to the Nines, the tequila sunrise jerseys were always paired with dark stirrups. But check out this shot of Larry Dierker — he’s definitely wearing orange hose, and they appear to be striped to boot.
  • It’s not clear to me why anyone would need to wear a dugout jacket in an indoor stadium, but maybe they really liked those rainbow stripes.

And there’s a lot more. Recommended viewing.

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Membership Announcement: Lots of you have asked if an additional column can be added to the membership roster, indicating the team and era that each card design was patterned after. I didn’t originally think we’d need to include that kind of info, since I figured the card designs would all be based on familiar uniform designs and that their sources would therefore be self-explanatory. But of course it hasn’t worked out that way — we’ve got throwback designs (the one shown above is a 1970 Indians treatment), minor league designs, soccer and cycling designs, etc. So yes, I now see it would be a nice idea to include this information, so everyone can see what a given card design was based on.

But here’s the thing: The roster chart is already pretty big and unwieldy — I don’t want to add another column to it. But if you go to the card design gallery and click on a given card design, you’ll get the Flickr page for that design — and you can add comments to that page. So I hereby invite all members to click on their own card designs and add an explanation for your design inspiration (turns out member Anthony Giaccone already did this several weeks ago). If all goes well, we’ll have all the team-based card pages annotated in short order.

You may have to register with Flickr in order to leave a comment. But it’s easy and free, and Flickr is a cool site that you really ought to be part of anyway, so it’s a win-win.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Scroll down to the end of this Q&A session with a Cardinals beat writer to see what the Redbirds think of the new BP caps (good find by Jordan Hirschfield). … Excellent catch by Avi Berliner, who spotted the following tidbit buried within this Wall Street Journal article: “Alex Marvez, president of the Pro Football Writers Association … winces at the new [NFL] rule requiring photographers to wear red vests with small Canon and Reebok logos. Mr. Marvez calls the idea of using working press members as advertising vehicles ‘really alarming.’ Neither company is paying a specific fee for the vests, but Canon Inc. is an official sponsor of the league (it pays a rights fee to be associated with the NFL) and Reebok International Ltd., owned by Adidas AG, is a league licensee (it makes merchandise with NFL logos, including jerseys, pants and photo vests).” … Always good to hear from Mike from Queens, who notes that USA Softball has some very odd batting helmets (additional views here and here). … Tour de France note from member Mike Edgerly, who writes: “Members of Team CSC are sporting black Live Strong-style wristbands that say ‘Harden the fuck up.'” Details toward the bottom of this page (and I swear, if today’s comments section devolves into a series erection jokes, I’m gonna pull the plug on the site, so don’t even think about it). … It’s well documented that Bob Feller will do anything for a buck, but this seems like a bit much. … “Could there be an uglier uni matchup?” asks Vince, referring to yesterday’s Brazil/Nicaragua contest at the Pan Am Games. … A reader who didn’t give his full name notes that Matt Holliday appeared to have one sleeve shorter than the other last night. … Reprinted from last night’s comments: With the Sharks and Ducks having added orange to their color schemes, Kris McInnis figures it’s time for every NHL team to go orange.

 

237 comments to Houston, We Have No Problem Whatsoever

  • stani aka the took | July 17, 2007 at 7:58 am |

    man those brazilians have some crazy uniforms but that baseball one is just… well… its bad.

  • Dan | July 17, 2007 at 8:00 am |

    I’m sure this has been addressed at some point, but David Wright goes with the “pajama bottoms” look for night games, and high socks for day games. I wonder if there’s are other players who wear their uniform differently depending on the time of day.

  • Gill | July 17, 2007 at 8:01 am |

    I noticed that pitcher Josh Towers, from the Blue Jays, pitched last night wearing a single digit number (7). Certainly, this is not his first time in Mantle’s number, but I finally caught it. This is unusual. Uniwatch covered the reasons why pitchers rarely wear single digit numbers years ago. What an inspiration Uniwatch is. Thanks to Uniwatch for being ahead of the curve. Are there any other pitchers in MLB rosters who wear single digit numbers?

  • Stuby | July 17, 2007 at 8:06 am |

    I guess orange is the new red. or black. or teal.

  • Robert | July 17, 2007 at 8:07 am |

    I can tell you why jackets were worn in the Astrodome: It was cold in there. It might have been 105 degrees outside, but a person could freeze to death in that place.

  • Mike Engle | July 17, 2007 at 8:15 am |

    Hi folks.
    I need some help for a research paper. I am investigating the evolution and development of football uniforms from a technical aspect, not from a design aspect. I am aware of all of the blog links on the right hand side of the page; I am finding a little difficulty in finding books. Any and all assistance from Uni Watch nation would be greatly appreciated.
    Send book titles (with authors’ names, if possible) to mbe0027 at gmail dot com.

  • anthony | July 17, 2007 at 8:18 am |

    WOW! My first shout-out on a Uniwatch entry. I’m honored. Thanks Paul!

  • Jason G. | July 17, 2007 at 8:23 am |

    In regards to the orange NHL team logos, those don’t look any where near as bad as I thought they would. That Calgary logo actually works pretty well.

  • Jon Stone | July 17, 2007 at 8:29 am |

    According to their website,the Chicago Fire are having a Turn Back The Clock night on Aug. 25. I cant find any info on if they are wearing throwback unis.

  • BCrisp | July 17, 2007 at 8:44 am |

    Good for the Astros to get some Uni Watch attention. I love that Astrodome history. I guess I take it for granted that I know about all the stuff that Paul and others are just discovering.

  • J.B. | July 17, 2007 at 9:00 am |

    Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

    http://chron.com/dis...

  • al | July 17, 2007 at 9:04 am |

    Regarding the Oh My God with the Astros and Pirates, i love that picture … there is no doubt who is playing.

  • todd krevanchi | July 17, 2007 at 9:08 am |

    [quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

    http://chron.com/dis...

    could be a typo to mean texas tech…

  • Luke | July 17, 2007 at 9:09 am |

    I know this goes against every thing that is holy…

    I like the Montreal logo with orange.

    Now I feel dirty.

  • Johnny Bacardi | July 17, 2007 at 9:10 am |

    Boy, was it great seeing those Astros baseball cards! I wish every team had a section like that on their websites.

    I collected baseball cards back in the early 70’s as a teen, and it was great to see those classy 1971 cards, as well as my favorite set, the gaudy, eyeball-burning 1972.

  • Ed | July 17, 2007 at 9:12 am |

    For Anthony Giaconne – on your flikr comment, you say the following: To hear Bob Shepard announce, “Now batting… Number fifteen… Catcher… Thurman Munson… Number fifteen…” was a tremendous moment for me.

    Wouldn’t Bob Sheppard have said something more along the lines of “Now batting…(snip)…Munson” (i.e., without the first name?) I was under the impression that Bob doesn’t use player’s first names in his intros…

    ed

  • James P. | July 17, 2007 at 9:14 am |

    Wowsers! Paul, I’m flattered you would do a whole entry on that link I sent you. As for the grounds crew in space suits, I was recently talking with a friend of mine from Houston who told me he actually knew one of the crounds crew when he was a kid and the space suit was “not NASA issue, but modeled after them.” I don’t know the truth of that statement but they do look like this with a costume store helmet.

  • Miguel | July 17, 2007 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

    http://chron.com/dis...

    They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.

  • ADD | July 17, 2007 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment=”120583″]I noticed that pitcher Josh Towers, from the Blue Jays, pitched last night wearing a single digit number (7). Certainly, this is not his first time in Mantle’s number, but I finally caught it. This is unusual. Uniwatch covered the reasons why pitchers rarely wear single digit numbers years ago. What an inspiration Uniwatch is. Thanks to Uniwatch for being ahead of the curve. Are there any other pitchers in MLB rosters who wear single digit numbers?[/quote]

    Currently no

  • ADD | July 17, 2007 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment=”120606″][quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

    http://chron.com/dis...

    They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.[/quote]

    Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.

  • Paris | July 17, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    [quote comment=”120603″]For Anthony Giaconne – on your flikr comment, you say the following: To hear Bob Shepard announce, “Now batting… Number fifteen… Catcher… Thurman Munson… Number fifteen…” was a tremendous moment for me.

    Wouldn’t Bob Sheppard have said something more along the lines of “Now batting…(snip)…Munson” (i.e., without the first name?) I was under the impression that Bob doesn’t use player’s first names in his intros…

    ed[/quote]

    In the first plate appearance he says the full name, number and position. (ie. “Now batting for the Yankees, the shortstop, Derek Jeter … No. 2.”.

    Then in every subsequent plate appearance he merely says that last name and number (If I recall correctly.).

  • Joe H | July 17, 2007 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment=”120583″]I noticed that pitcher Josh Towers, from the Blue Jays, pitched last night wearing a single digit number (7). Certainly, this is not his first time in Mantle’s number, but I finally caught it. This is unusual. Uniwatch covered the reasons why pitchers rarely wear single digit numbers years ago. What an inspiration Uniwatch is. Thanks to Uniwatch for being ahead of the curve. Are there any other pitchers in MLB rosters who wear single digit numbers?[/quote]

    He couldn’t wear #7 with the O’s because that is “unofficially” retired for Cal. Sr.

  • Clevo | July 17, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    part of me died when I clicked on that Bob Feller link. Total bumout.

  • anthony | July 17, 2007 at 9:30 am |

    [quote comment=”120603″]For Anthony Giaconne – on your flikr comment, you say the following: To hear Bob Shepard announce, “Now batting… Number fifteen… Catcher… Thurman Munson… Number fifteen…” was a tremendous moment for me.

    Wouldn’t Bob Sheppard have said something more along the lines of “Now batting…(snip)…Munson” (i.e., without the first name?) I was under the impression that Bob doesn’t use player’s first names in his intros…

    ed[/quote]
    You could be right – I was 8 years old at the time. But come to think of it… after almost 35 years and about 100 Yankee games later you think I would know better…

  • todd krevanchi | July 17, 2007 at 9:31 am |

    [quote comment=”120607″][quote comment=”120583″]I noticed that pitcher Josh Towers, from the Blue Jays, pitched last night wearing a single digit number (7). Certainly, this is not his first time in Mantle’s number, but I finally caught it. This is unusual. Uniwatch covered the reasons why pitchers rarely wear single digit numbers years ago. What an inspiration Uniwatch is. Thanks to Uniwatch for being ahead of the curve. Are there any other pitchers in MLB rosters who wear single digit numbers?[/quote]

    Currently no[/quote]

    i think it was discussed that this guy was the lowest weve seen in mlb…
    http://cache.gettyim...

    [quote comment=”120608″][quote comment=”120606″][quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

    http://chron.com/dis...

    They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.[/quote]

    Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.[/quote]

    interesting variation used above of adidas’ impossible is nothing slogan. quite clever here…

  • ScottyJ in WV | July 17, 2007 at 9:37 am |

    I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I dig those Astros rainbow unis. I mean, just look at Ryan.

    I even like the more subdued version, but I do like these the best.

  • ed leahy | July 17, 2007 at 9:39 am |

    Does anyone know if the vikings have changed their helmet design for this upcoming season. I was on a website that is selling mini helmets with “new” design, but the link didnt work. Thanks

  • Robert | July 17, 2007 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”120620″]Does anyone know if the vikings have changed their helmet design for this upcoming season. I was on a website that is selling mini helmets with “new” design, but the link didnt work. Thanks[/quote]

    The Vikings’ helmets were revised slightly for the 2006 season, so that redesign might be what the website it referencing as being new.

  • Ed | July 17, 2007 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”120610″]Then in every subsequent plate appearance he merely says that last name and number (If I recall correctly.).[/quote]

    Ah….thanks!

    ed

  • Roger Faso | July 17, 2007 at 9:52 am |

    Scroll down and check out Ray “Harpo” Hutchinson.

    Apparently, he didn’t feel the need to fit in.

    BTW> What’s up with Bruce Botchy’s eye lashes? It’s been bugging me since 1981.

  • roboto | July 17, 2007 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”120608″][quote comment=”120606″][quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

    http://chron.com/dis...

    They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.[/quote]

    Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.[/quote]

    I was wondering the same thing. Texas Tech isnt it either. They changed to Under Armour last season.

  • Mayer | July 17, 2007 at 9:55 am |

    “[Beckham] wore the same gold jersey and blue shorts as his teammates. His jersey had short sleeves, a switch from the long-sleeved style preferred by Beckham.”
    (http://soccernet.esp...)

  • Roger Faso | July 17, 2007 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”120621″][quote comment=”120620″]Does anyone know if the vikings have changed their helmet design for this upcoming season. I was on a website that is selling mini helmets with “new” design, but the link didnt work. Thanks[/quote]

    The Vikings’ helmets were revised slightly for the 2006 season, so that redesign might be what the website it referencing as being new.[/quote]

    Was this the website you were visiting?

    Mini Helmets

  • Paris | July 17, 2007 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”120623″]Scroll down and check out Ray “Harpo” Hutchinson.

    Apparently, he didn’t feel the need to fit in.

    BTW> What’s up with Bruce Botchy’s eye lashes? It’s been bugging me since 1981.[/quote]

    Looks like Harpo is sporting an alternate to the “Red Neck” jerseys we saw the other day.

  • Joe Drennan | July 17, 2007 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”120621″][quote comment=”120620″]Does anyone know if the vikings have changed their helmet design for this upcoming season. I was on a website that is selling mini helmets with “new” design, but the link didnt work. Thanks[/quote]

    The Vikings’ helmets were revised slightly for the 2006 season, so that redesign might be what the website it referencing as being new.[/quote]
    The redeesign added some subtle marks to make the horns look 3-d. It was the only change to their look that I liked.

  • Joe Drennan | July 17, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”120589″]In regards to the orange NHL team logos, those don’t look any where near as bad as I thought they would. That Calgary logo actually works pretty well.[/quote]
    Not all that long ago orange was one of the Flames colors, but they sold out and replaced it with black.

  • roboto | July 17, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    From this picture it looks like Texas A&M was a NIKE school before Texas was. So, it is completely possible that Texas is an adidas school as well.

  • Eriq Jaffe | July 17, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”120590″]According to their website,the Chicago Fire are having a Turn Back The Clock night on Aug. 25. I cant find any info on if they are wearing throwback unis.[/quote]

    They’d better wear these.

  • BCrisp | July 17, 2007 at 10:03 am |

    You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.

  • The Ol Goaler | July 17, 2007 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”120610″]
    In the first plate appearance he (Yankees’ PA announcer Bob Sheppard) says the full name, number and position. (ie. “Now batting for the Yankees, the shortstop, Derek Jeter … No. 2.”.

    Then in every subsequent plate appearance he merely says that last name and number (If I recall correctly.).[/quote]
    And, once upon a time, he announced an earlier Yankee catcher as “Number Eight… Larry Berra…” Mr. Sheppard later bowed to the obvious, and called him “Yogi”, just like everybody else.

    Yogi may just be the most-beloved Yankee ever, especially if you count non-Yankee fans! How could anyone not like Yogi Berra?

  • Kris McInnis | July 17, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”120601″]I know this goes against every thing that is holy…

    I like the Montreal logo with orange.

    Now I feel dirty.[/quote]

    Wow… I didn’t know this dumb little project of mine would actually bring on praise. With Montreal, Calgary, and New Jersey from last night, that makes 3 teams so far that people actually like with the orange. Maybe I didn’t make some of them ugly enough…

    Then I look at this one, and I feel validated in ugly. It looks like a crab. Nevertheless, thanks Paul.

  • Kip Whiffle | July 17, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”120628″][quote comment=”120621″][quote comment=”120620″]Does anyone know if the vikings have changed their helmet design for this upcoming season. I was on a website that is selling mini helmets with “new” design, but the link didnt work. Thanks[/quote]

    The Vikings’ helmets were revised slightly for the 2006 season, so that redesign might be what the website it referencing as being new.[/quote]
    The redeesign added some subtle marks to make the horns look 3-d. It was the only change to their look that I liked.[/quote]

    You can see the subtle changes to the Vikings helmet on the team’s Web site today.
    http://www.vikings.c...

  • Joe Drennan | July 17, 2007 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”120636″][quote comment=”120601″]I know this goes against every thing that is holy…

    I like the Montreal logo with orange.

    Now I feel dirty.[/quote]

    Wow… I didn’t know this dumb little project of mine would actually bring on praise. With Montreal, Calgary, and New Jersey from last night, that makes 3 teams so far that people actually like with the orange. Maybe I didn’t make some of them ugly enough…

    Then I look at this one, and I feel validated in ugly. It looks like a crab. Nevertheless, thanks Paul.[/quote]
    Forget adding orange to the team logos, bring orange back to the NHL logo.

  • The Ol Goaler | July 17, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”120605″]Wowsers! Paul, I’m flattered you would do a whole entry on that link I sent you. As for the grounds crew in space suits, I was recently talking with a friend of mine from Houston who told me he actually knew one of the crounds crew when he was a kid and the space suit was “not NASA issue, but modeled after them.” I don’t know the truth of that statement but they do look like this with a costume store helmet.[/quote]
    This subject reminds me that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name.

    Gee, I liked those black-and-gold Pirates’ unis… (wink)

  • Adam in Chicago | July 17, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    Regarding the “All-orange NHL” idea… I don’t think it looks that bad on the Flames (where it’s actually kind of appropriate), Blues (it’s close enough to the original yellow that it’s not that big of a deal, or – in my opinion – the Kings. In fact I think it makes that crown snap a bit more.

  • The Ol Goaler | July 17, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”120636″][quote comment=”120601″]I know this goes against every thing that is holy…

    I like the Montreal logo with orange.

    Now I feel dirty.[/quote]

    Wow… I didn’t know this dumb little project of mine would actually bring on praise. With Montreal, Calgary, and New Jersey from last night, that makes 3 teams so far that people actually like with the orange. Maybe I didn’t make some of them ugly enough…

    Then I look at this one, and I feel validated in ugly. It looks like a crab. Nevertheless, thanks Paul.[/quote]
    For what it’s worth, the St. Louis Blues original sweaters (I know, it’s a B&W photo) featured a “gold” that tended a bit more toward orange than yellow.

    I’m dreading what Reebok might do to those classic Canadiens’ sweaters… (shudder!)

  • Robert | July 17, 2007 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”120639″][quote comment=”120605″]Wowsers! Paul, I’m flattered you would do a whole entry on that link I sent you. As for the grounds crew in space suits, I was recently talking with a friend of mine from Houston who told me he actually knew one of the crounds crew when he was a kid and the space suit was “not NASA issue, but modeled after them.” I don’t know the truth of that statement but they do look like this with a costume store helmet.[/quote]
    This subject reminds me that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name.[/quote]

    I heard long ago that the Astros were the first and only team to be named after their stadium. In other words, the Astrodome was so named first, and the team’s name-change followed. I have never researched whether this is true, but it makes for a good story.

  • James P. | July 17, 2007 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”120633″]You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.[/quote]

    Back in 2003, I tried buying a current Astros home pinstripe jersey at the Astros clubhouse at Union Station before a game and was told that the only jerseys they had for adults were the Rainbow Guts because those sold better. Makes me mad that this isn’t sold anywere, and the main reason this is sold more often is because rappers wear it in their videos…

  • Matt D. | July 17, 2007 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”120598″]Regarding the Oh My God with the Astros and Pirates, i love that picture … there is no doubt who is playing.[/quote]
    nah, you need the Pirates wearing their awful yellow pinstripes (either top or bottom, matched with the yellow)for the complete retina-burning effect. Precious few things made the Astros ‘Tequilla Sunrise’ uniform look staid, but the Pirates did.

  • Jamie | July 17, 2007 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”120631″]From this picture it looks like Texas A&M was a NIKE school before Texas was. So, it is completely possible that Texas is an adidas school as well.[/quote]

    Since I live in Dallas, I read that blurb in the DMN today. I am fairly certain that the only schools that are Adidas in the Big 12 are Nebraska (since 1995), Kansas (switched from Nike a couple years ago), and Texas A&M. I haven’t heard anything about Texas switching from Nike. Texas Tech wears UnderArmor in football, while I think the rest of the Big 12 schools are Nike schools.

  • LouUmp | July 17, 2007 at 10:26 am |

    annotated my uni number

    #56

  • Chance | July 17, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”120639″][quote comment=”120605″]Wowsers! Paul, I’m flattered you would do a whole entry on that link I sent you. As for the grounds crew in space suits, I was recently talking with a friend of mine from Houston who told me he actually knew one of the crounds crew when he was a kid and the space suit was “not NASA issue, but modeled after them.” I don’t know the truth of that statement but they do look like this with a costume store helmet.[/quote]
    This subject reminds me that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name.
    (wink)[/quote]

    Do you have a source for that? I tend not to believe it.

    The Mets are not, and have never been, the “New York Metropolitans.” The original corporate name of the organization was “New York Metropolitan Baseball Club, Inc.”, but the team name has always been “Mets.”

  • Stuby | July 17, 2007 at 10:35 am |

    My God, this throwback is a thing of beauty. I had forgotten the Giants wore these in an exhibition game against the A’s many years ago.

    I had also forgotten how high Will Clark used to wear his belt. That thing is almost to his nipples.

  • jesse | July 17, 2007 at 10:39 am |

    I found this link to an article about the resolution of the Texas Aggie, Texas Longhorn trademark dispute regarding the “Saw ’em Off” logo.

  • Joe Drennan | July 17, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.

  • Pittsburgh Gunny | July 17, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    I added my details to my Uniwatch card. Great idea to have people add their details because I don’t know what some of the designs are based upon.

    Although that Arsenal card looks gorgeous!

  • Michael Romero | July 17, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    I’d love to comment on my membership card, but I don’t see it up in the gallery.

  • Quint | July 17, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”120598″]Regarding the Oh My God with the Astros and Pirates, i love that picture … there is no doubt who is playing.[/quote]
    I also like that you can look at this picture and have no idea who the home team is, since the Astros had essentially the same uniform home and away. I assume, looking at the backstop, this is in the Astrodome, but again, both Three Rivers and the Astrodome had artificial turf, and it’s a little dark…

  • possum | July 17, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”120658″]Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.[/quote]
    Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.

  • Ken | July 17, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    During the red sox game last night Terry Francona jogged out to third base to argue a ball which was called foul, along the third base line. While jogging back to the Sox dugout, two guys a few rows behind me started yelling at him “Where’s your uniform Terry? Get rid of those pajamas

    Just made me think of uniwatch, also another recent uniwatch topic, the question of who would buy those hideous allstar jerseys, I did spot one guy wearing that orange Ortiz jersey.

  • jesse | July 17, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”120670″][quote comment=”120658″]Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.[/quote]
    Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.[/quote]

    There is a pretty conclusive visual test you can do to tell the difference between Andruw and Chipper Jones.

  • Jason G. | July 17, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”120679″][quote comment=”120670″][quote comment=”120658″]Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.[/quote]
    Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.[/quote]

    There is a pretty conclusive visual test you can do to tell the difference between Andruw and Chipper Jones.[/quote]

    Right, Chipper is taller.

  • BCrisp | July 17, 2007 at 11:36 am |

    Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
    Or are they good because they are good?

  • Teebz | July 17, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”120684″]Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
    Or are they good because they are good?[/quote]

    They are eyesores. Much like the Islanders’ Fishermen jerseys, you can’t help but to love them for how hideous they were/are.

  • Jennifer | July 17, 2007 at 11:43 am |

    I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues!

  • Dan | July 17, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”120608″][quote comment=”120606″][quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

    http://chron.com/dis...

    They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.[/quote]

    Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.[/quote]

    Did Michigan go to Adidas?

  • Jaye | July 17, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”120672″]
    … also another recent uniwatch topic, the question of who would buy those hideous allstar jerseys, I did spot one guy wearing that orange Ortiz jersey.[/quote]

    I saw a guy wearing a Carl Crawford all-star jersey at a Rays/Yankees game last week. My son’s remark: “Who would spend money on that ugly thing?” My answer: “That guy!”

  • Pat | July 17, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”120670″][quote comment=”120658″]Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.[/quote]
    Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.[/quote]

    Why aren’t numbers enough to tell them apart?

    I never understood having the first initial. If you know the name based on the inital, you can know the name based on the number.

  • GregD | July 17, 2007 at 11:52 am |

    Aston Villa has released their 2007-2008 Home kit. The Villans left Hummel and have signed with Nike.
    2007-8 Home Kit

  • Patrick | July 17, 2007 at 11:52 am |

    Like someone said earlier, the Astrodome could get quite chilly even in the middle of summer. I used to take a sweatshirt to games, and usually had it on by the 5th or 6th inning.

  • James P. | July 17, 2007 at 11:54 am |

    The Rainbow Guys jerseys are popular because they were the first to really go against the normal baseball uniform of one solid color, pinstripes, or white/gray with the name/city by using multiple colors and looking totally different than the uniforms that were being used and were used before.

  • Frankie | July 17, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    Michigan is the other school switching to adidas, not Texas. However, the change will not be taking place until next year I believe. As far as the lowest number a pitcher has worn (at least recently), the Giants traded for a pitcher a few years back at the deadline who asked for the lowest available number and so they gave him number 2.

  • Phil Pereira | July 17, 2007 at 12:08 pm |

    The Canon blurb is really funny to me (as a photographer) because so many sports photographers are walking Canon billboards, with those huge white lenses that are Canon’s signature. I don’t have any sort of statistics, but I’d be willing to guess most sports photographers favor Canon over Nikon, so having an additional Canon logo shouldn’t be a big deal. That guy is making a mountain out of a molehill

  • Jean | July 17, 2007 at 12:09 pm |

    Paul, why dont you do a entire entry devoted to Pan Am uniforms…ive been watching them and i can tell u there are a lot of interesting ones…

  • Frankie | July 17, 2007 at 12:11 pm |

    I looked it up and Wayne Gomes in 2001 was the pitcher who wore number 2 for the Giants.

    Wayne Gomes

  • Chris | July 17, 2007 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”120692″][quote comment=”120608″][quote comment=”120606″][quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

    http://chron.com/dis...

    They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.[/quote]

    Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.[/quote]

    Did Michigan go to Adidas?[/quote]

    Yes, Michigan dropped Nike and moved to Adidas joining Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Tennessee as the marquee schools

  • Kenny | July 17, 2007 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”120681″][quote comment=”120679″][quote comment=”120670″][quote comment=”120658″]Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.[/quote]
    Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.[/quote]

    There is a pretty conclusive visual test you can do to tell the difference between Andruw and Chipper Jones.[/quote]

    Right, Chipper is taller.[/quote]

    Please people, his name is Lawrence

  • Howard | July 17, 2007 at 12:14 pm |

    Watching the first game in the Astrodome reminded me – Nobody wore stirrups better than Mantle.

  • Dwight | July 17, 2007 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”120684″]Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
    Or are they good because they are good?[/quote]

    Great analogy BCrisp – I think their great b/c they are terrible – much like “Point Break” – “I am an F-B-I agent!”

  • Mr. Met | July 17, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”120654″][quote comment=”120639″][quote comment=”120605″]Wowsers! Paul, I’m flattered you would do a whole entry on that link I sent you. As for the grounds crew in space suits, I was recently talking with a friend of mine from Houston who told me he actually knew one of the crounds crew when he was a kid and the space suit was “not NASA issue, but modeled after them.” I don’t know the truth of that statement but they do look like this with a costume store helmet.[/quote]
    This subject reminds me that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name.
    (wink)[/quote]

    Do you have a source for that? I tend not to believe it.

    The Mets are not, and have never been, the “New York Metropolitans.” The original corporate name of the organization was “New York Metropolitan Baseball Club, Inc.”, but the team name has always been “Mets.”[/quote]

    That has always been a misconception about the Mets being the “New York Metropolitans”. According to the Mets own Media Guide, “the name is Mets… just plain Mets”.

    Like Chance pointed out, the team’s corporate name is Metroplitan Baseball Club Inc. According to the Media Guide, original club owner Joan Payson chose Mets as the name for her ballclub because it met five criteria:

    (1) It met public and press acceptance
    (2) It was closely related to the team’s corporate name
    (3) It was descriptive of the Metroploitan area.
    (4) It had a brevity that delighted copy readers everywhere
    (5) It had historical background, referring to the Metropolitans of the 19th century American Association.

    Oddly enough, on occasion the Mets broadcasters themselves have called the team “The Metropolitans”, which technically is incorrect.

  • Kenny | July 17, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    I don’t get why they are calling Rich Harden a fuck up

    Guess they didn’t make size 8.5 hats back then

  • Stuby | July 17, 2007 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”120711″][quote comment=”120681″][quote comment=”120679″][quote comment=”120670″][quote comment=”120658″]Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.[/quote]
    Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.[/quote]

    There is a pretty conclusive visual test you can do to tell the difference between Andruw and Chipper Jones.[/quote]

    Right, Chipper is taller.[/quote]

    Please people, his name is Lawrence[/quote]
    Larry, actually.

  • joe | July 17, 2007 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”120590″]According to their website,the Chicago Fire are having a Turn Back The Clock night on Aug. 25. I cant find any info on if they are wearing throwback unis.[/quote]

    not much of a throwback, since they are only a few years old. My guess either the chicago flag tops, or go old school chicago sting.

  • al | July 17, 2007 at 12:35 pm |

    True they are not the NY Metropolitans like how Knicks ARE the Knickerbockers, but “Mets” is based off of Metropolitans.

  • ThresherK | July 17, 2007 at 12:37 pm |

    Yogi may just be the most-beloved Yankee ever, especially if you count non-Yankee fans! How could anyone not like Yogi Berra?

    I have to mention one Yogiism that I haven’t been able to verify or disprove:

    During an Old Timers Day appearance at The Stadium, the honorees were lined up along the infield. Then attention went to the scoreboard where deceased Yankee greats were named and pictured, as the crowd cheered wildly, and sobbed a little.

    Yogi is supposed to have said to the next guy,

    “Gee, I hope I never see my name up there.”

  • joe | July 17, 2007 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”120617″]I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I dig those Astros rainbow unis. I mean, just look at Ryan.

    I even like the more subdued version, but I do like these the best.[/quote]
    wrigley field with marla collins in the background, obviously pre playboy firing.

  • Mike | July 17, 2007 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”120612″]part of me died when I clicked on that Bob Feller link. Total bumout.[/quote]
    Reminds me of a story I was told about Feller a few years ago. My cousin was a producer for ESPN in the mid ’90s, and he worked with Feller on a piece for SportsCenter. After they’d finished, he asked Feller to autograph a baseball. Feller said he only signed autographs for a fee, and if he wanted “HOF” added to the autograph, that would be extra. My cousin politely declined.

  • Ed | July 17, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”120708″]Paul, why dont you do a entire entry devoted to Pan Am uniforms…ive been watching them and i can tell u there are a lot of interesting ones…[/quote]

    How about these?

    http://www.uniformfr...

    ed

  • Joey Guns | July 17, 2007 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”120681″][quote comment=”120679″][quote comment=”120670″][quote comment=”120658″]Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.[/quote]
    Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.[/quote]

    There is a pretty conclusive visual test you can do to tell the difference between Andruw and Chipper Jones.[/quote]

    Right, Chipper is taller.[/quote]

    The Giles brothers bat #1 and #2 in the Padres lineup, and neither one has an initial on his jersey.

  • Ed | July 17, 2007 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”120734″][quote comment=”120708″]Paul, why dont you do a entire entry devoted to Pan Am uniforms…ive been watching them and i can tell u there are a lot of interesting ones…[/quote]

    How about these?

    http://www.uniformfr...

    ed[/quote]

    Er, try this link:

    http://www.uniformfr...

    ed

  • Stuby | July 17, 2007 at 12:55 pm |

    I was hoping the Niners would do better this year, but now I’m a little concerned.

  • Teebz | July 17, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”120736″][quote comment=”120734″][quote comment=”120708″]Paul, why dont you do a entire entry devoted to Pan Am uniforms…ive been watching them and i can tell u there are a lot of interesting ones…[/quote]

    How about these?

    http://www.uniformfr...

    ed[/quote]

    Er, try this link:

    http://www.uniformfr...

    ed[/quote]

    Ed, I believe he meant the Pan American Games that are currently going on in Rio de Janiero. :o)

  • Jason G. | July 17, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”120711″][quote comment=”120681″][quote comment=”120679″][quote comment=”120670″][quote comment=”120658″]Looking at pictures from yesterday’s Cubs-Giants game, I notieced the Cubs batters was Hill to Hill, being rich Hill to Koyie Hill. Both simply had Hill on the back of their jersey, no intials.[/quote]
    Andruw and Chipper Jones don’t wear initials either. Another interesting note along these lines…I’m a STH for the ECHL team here in Charlotte. We have currently signed 3 guys named Smith for the upcoming season. Kenton Smith (who gets no initial b/c of seniority), Kenny Smith (K Smith last year), and Kenton’s little brother Mark Smith (rookie, I assume will be M Smith). I really wish they’d put Kenton and Kenny’s full names on their unis. I love a jersey with a full name! Radio calls ought to be interesting this year.[/quote]

    There is a pretty conclusive visual test you can do to tell the difference between Andruw and Chipper Jones.[/quote]

    Right, Chipper is taller.[/quote]

    Please people, his name is Lawrence[/quote]

    I doubt anyone would know who you were talking about if you said Larry Jones, kind of like Joey Belle. He also used to get heckled by fans chanting Larry, so I’m not even sure he likes the name Larry.

  • Jaye | July 17, 2007 at 12:58 pm |

    At one point, the Jones Brothers did indeed have first initials

    http://members.tripo...

  • Chance | July 17, 2007 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”120726″]True they are not the NY Metropolitans like how Knicks ARE the Knickerbockers, but “Mets” is based off of Metropolitans.[/quote]

    Well, kinda. As Mr. Met said so well above.

    In any case, the original assertion that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name is at least partially incorrect.

    I still doubt that the Astros were ever the “Astronauts”.

  • BCrisp | July 17, 2007 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”120738″]I was hoping the Niners would do better this year, but now I’m a little concerned.[/quote]
    On the plus side they will have a great volley ball team.

  • Mr. Met | July 17, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”120743″][quote comment=”120726″]True they are not the NY Metropolitans like how Knicks ARE the Knickerbockers, but “Mets” is based off of Metropolitans.[/quote]

    Well, kinda. As Mr. Met said so well above.

    In any case, the original assertion that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name is at least partially incorrect.

    I still doubt that the Astros were ever the “Astronauts”.[/quote]

    Someone on this board has to have a copy of the Houston Astros Media Guide. I would guess that the answer would be somewhere in there……

  • dunford | July 17, 2007 at 1:10 pm |

    Bob Sheppard – actually, he does the full lineups at the beginning of the game (position, uniform number, full name) and then for the remainder of the game it’s position and full name…

    I hate to admit it, but i think those Astros dugout jackets are kind of sweet.

  • Eric | July 17, 2007 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”120749″][quote comment=”120743″][quote comment=”120726″]True they are not the NY Metropolitans like how Knicks ARE the Knickerbockers, but “Mets” is based off of Metropolitans.[/quote]

    Well, kinda. As Mr. Met said so well above.

    In any case, the original assertion that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name is at least partially incorrect.

    I still doubt that the Astros were ever the “Astronauts”.[/quote]

    Someone on this board has to have a copy of the Houston Astros Media Guide. I would guess that the answer would be somewhere in there……[/quote]

    The Astros were never named the Astronauts. The owner decided to name them the Astros because he feared that newspaper headlines would just shorten “Astronauts” to “Astros”.
    His fears were well founded as now headlines call them ‘Stros.

  • Jonathon | July 17, 2007 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”120633″]You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.[/quote]

    Biggio wore the old school uni back in 89 when he entered the league. Not the full-on tequila sunrise, but at least with the shoulder stripes.

  • BCrisp | July 17, 2007 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”120757″][quote comment=”120633″]You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.[/quote]

    Biggio wore the old school uni back in 89 when he entered the league. Not the full-on tequila sunrise, but at least with the shoulder stripes.[/quote]
    I know that, but you see a lot of Biggio tequila sunrise jerseys. His rookie year was the first year without the sunrise.

  • James P. | July 17, 2007 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”120757″][quote comment=”120633″]You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.[/quote]

    Biggio wore the old school uni back in 89 when he entered the league. Not the full-on tequila sunrise, but at least with the shoulder stripes.[/quote]

    The unis with the stripes on the sholders were used till 1994 when the dark navy blue and gold uniforms were used. Baggs abd Biggio both wore those…

    Now, I have yet to find images from a throwback game where they wore the Rainbow Guts…though I know they have…

  • James P. | July 17, 2007 at 1:35 pm |

    I did find this beauty showing Bags and Biggio in Paul’s favorite Astros throwback.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | July 17, 2007 at 1:36 pm |

    OMG! You simply must go to the Astros Daily website, then click on “History” > “Astros Card Gallery” > “1975 – 1987” > “1981 Tuscon (AAA)” – then be ready to scream (this is your only warning) ;o)

  • Boston Nick | July 17, 2007 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”120697″]Aston Villa has released their 2007-2008 Home kit. The Villans left Hummel and have signed with Nike.
    2007-8 Home Kit[/quote]

    I’m kinda jealous. Those Villa unis look great, I just wish West Ham had Nike jerseys instead.

    But that’s a great change from Hummel to Nike. Get rid of those awful Hummel ‘V’ things down the side and replace em with a nice, simple, traditional look.

    Why can’t all of Nike’s uni design crews do as well as the soccer crews do? Nike Soccer has been on fire the last couple years.

  • TOG | July 17, 2007 at 1:46 pm |

    http://www.columbia....

    Wonder where the Astros got the idea for the stripes on the uniforms? I have a hunch…

    I think Paul will appreciate the story angle from architecure to team uni design from this link…

    http://www.columbia....

  • Stuby | July 17, 2007 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”120764″]OMG! You simply must go to the Astros Daily website, then click on “History” > “Astros Card Gallery” > “1975 – 1987” > “1981 Tuscon (AAA)” – then be ready to scream (this is your only warning) ;o)[/quote]
    Oh, sweet Jesus…

  • BCrisp | July 17, 2007 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”120760″][quote comment=”120757″][quote comment=”120633″]You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.[/quote]

    Biggio wore the old school uni back in 89 when he entered the league. Not the full-on tequila sunrise, but at least with the shoulder stripes.[/quote]

    The unis with the stripes on the sholders were used till 1994 when the dark navy blue and gold uniforms were used. Baggs abd Biggio both wore those…

    Now, I have yet to find images from a throwback game where they wore the Rainbow Guts…though I know they have…[/quote]
    They last wore them on August 3, 2006
    Matt Albers in Rainbow Uniform

  • Aaron Scholder | July 17, 2007 at 1:51 pm |

    Here’s the NHL 08 cover featuring Carolina’s new jersey’s:
    http://blogs.newsobs...

  • Christopher | July 17, 2007 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”120585″]I guess orange is the new red. or black. or teal.[/quote]

    You know… I was going to email Paul about this, but I’ll just post here.

    This would be an excellent subject of an article or blog entry. (Maybe Paul’s done it already?)

    A short history of color trends in sports (or one sport). When I say trends, I mean it crosses the threshold where many teams use the color even when it is not their primary color (and even clashes).

    Examples from baseball would be:

    Powder blues in the 70s-80s
    Black in the 90s
    Red (maybe?) now?
    Teal was big in many sports in the 90s

    The key would be to detail who started it, who did it well, and who executed it poorly/should never have tried it.

  • Stuby | July 17, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”120774″][quote comment=”120585″]I guess orange is the new red. or black. or teal.[/quote]

    You know… I was going to email Paul about this, but I’ll just post here.

    This would be an excellent subject of an article or blog entry. (Maybe Paul’s done it already?)

    A short history of color trends in sports (or one sport). When I say trends, I mean it crosses the threshold where many teams use the color even when it is not their primary color (and even clashes).

    Examples from baseball would be:

    Powder blues in the 70s-80s
    Black in the 90s
    Red (maybe?) now?
    Teal was big in many sports in the 90s

    The key would be to detail who started it, who did it well, and who executed it poorly/should never have tried it.[/quote]
    File this under ‘Should Never Have Tried It’

  • DW in Tampa Bay | July 17, 2007 at 2:02 pm |

    Those Astros “jackets” were not actually jackets. They were sweaters. I had one in the 1980’s.

    As far as the red trimmed bases. Isn’t that picture from the 1972 All-Star Game, as I think that is Joe Morgan in a home Reds uniform and Lee May at 1st. That is the only year that May was an All-Star and Morgan was at 2nd Base.

  • Dom | July 17, 2007 at 2:06 pm |

    Heres what the capitals jerseys could look like in action

    http://media.ps3.ign...

    http://media.ps3.ign...

  • Brendan | July 17, 2007 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”120767″][quote comment=”120697″]Aston Villa has released their 2007-2008 Home kit. The Villans left Hummel and have signed with Nike.
    2007-8 Home Kit[/quote]

    I’m kinda jealous. Those Villa unis look great, I just wish West Ham had Nike jerseys instead.

    But that’s a great change from Hummel to Nike. Get rid of those awful Hummel ‘V’ things down the side and replace em with a nice, simple, traditional look.

    Why can’t all of Nike’s uni design crews do as well as the soccer crews do? Nike Soccer has been on fire the last couple years.[/quote]

    With the exception of Inter’s new away shirt and FC Barcelona’s new away shirt. I’ve seen them both in person, and they look much worse than in pictures.

  • CortM | July 17, 2007 at 2:16 pm |

    The Astros were NEVER officially the Astronauts.

    Judge Roy Hofheinz, the legendary original owner of the Houston Baseball Club, deliberately named the team the Astros, because “Astronauts” was too long to fit on a newspaper headline. He did not want the club nickname shortened by a copywriter.

    They were never the Astronauts. Of course, the copywriters routinely shorten the club nickname to ‘Stros, so Hofheinz’s intention was thwarted, anyway.

  • todd krevanchi | July 17, 2007 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”120736″][quote comment=”120734″][quote comment=”120708″]Paul, why dont you do a entire entry devoted to Pan Am uniforms…ive been watching them and i can tell u there are a lot of interesting ones…[/quote]

    How about these?

    http://www.uniformfr...

    ed[/quote]

    Er, try this link:

    http://www.uniformfr...

    ed[/quote]

    wow, seeing that pic makes me want to pass bad checks and take tom hanks on a wild goose chase…

  • Joey Guns | July 17, 2007 at 2:20 pm |

    This picture about a guy seeing a Redskins Jeff George jersey in Europe is priceless……

    http://justcallmejui...

  • Ian K | July 17, 2007 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”120719″]I don’t get why they are calling Rich Harden a fuck up
    [/quote]

    You’d feel differently if he was supposed to be anchoring the pitching staff on your fantasy baseball team. I think I’ll change my team name to “Harden the Fuck Up” now.

  • Keith | July 17, 2007 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”120697″]Aston Villa has released their 2007-2008 Home kit. The Villans left Hummel and have signed with Nike.
    2007-8 Home Kit[/quote]

    They also released their away kit, which proves that pinstripe football kits can be done.

    http://www.avfc.prem...,,10265~1074481,00.html

  • concealed78 | July 17, 2007 at 2:36 pm |

    The Rainbow Guts were awful. I cringed the first tiem I ever saw those. Really didn’t like the Rainbow Shoulders either. I still haven’t found any pics from the late 1974 test-debut of the Rainbow Guts, which had a white cap, orange brim, and a white star on the jersey along with the stripes.

  • dilbert719 | July 17, 2007 at 2:38 pm |

    On the National Orange League poster: The Penguins, Devils, Flames, Blackhawks, and Oilers actually look pretty good with some orange in their logo. The rest are just weird, but those five it works for just nicely.

  • ScottyJ in WV | July 17, 2007 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”120793″][quote comment=”120719″]I don’t get why they are calling Rich Harden a fuck up
    [/quote]

    You’d feel differently if he was supposed to be anchoring the pitching staff on your fantasy baseball team. I think I’ll change my team name to “Harden the Fuck Up” now.[/quote]

    I thought those bracelets were referring to the often heard, rainy day pleas of concrete contactors…..

  • Teebz | July 17, 2007 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”120793″][quote comment=”120719″]I don’t get why they are calling Rich Harden a up
    [/quote]

    You’d feel differently if he was supposed to be anchoring the pitching staff on your fantasy baseball team. I think I’ll change my team name to “Harden the Up” now.[/quote]

    I’m not saying that fantasy baseball isn’t important, but if it’s that important to you that you have to rip a guy for being hurt or not pitching well, you may be a little obsessive about FANTASY baseball. I can’t stress the FANTASY part of that enough.

    How do you think the A’s feel? They’re the team that is paying him. If he’s on your fantasy baseball team, you have to know the risks when taking him. Do your homework next time. It is, after all, YOUR FANTASY baseball team.

  • Dan | July 17, 2007 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”120774″][quote comment=”120585″]I guess orange is the new red. or black. or teal.[/quote]

    You know… I was going to email Paul about this, but I’ll just post here.

    This would be an excellent subject of an article or blog entry. (Maybe Paul’s done it already?)

    A short history of color trends in sports (or one sport). When I say trends, I mean it crosses the threshold where many teams use the color even when it is not their primary color (and even clashes).

    Examples from baseball would be:

    Powder blues in the 70s-80s
    Black in the 90s
    Red (maybe?) now?
    Teal was big in many sports in the 90s

    The key would be to detail who started it, who did it well, and who executed it poorly/should never have tried it.[/quote]

    Seems to me that the team that started the black trend in the 90s was either the L.A. Kings, switching once Gretz got to town…either that, or the 2-Legit Falcons going black in 1990/91.

    As far as the Red Tidal wave…I’m going to cast my lot with the Tampa Bay Bucs. They had that GREAT uni change in the late 90s…that dark red…and seems to me like the trend keyed off of that.

  • hokie96 | July 17, 2007 at 2:58 pm |

    After watching the NFL Network’s “Americas Game” I have decided that 1994 was the beginning of the end for NFL uniforms. They wore the throwbacks and then everyone started to change their design (Bucaneers, Falcons, Lions, Seahawks and more recently the Vikings, Cardinals). The 49ers had some of the sharpest unis out there pre ’94 as well as the Cowboys but now they both just look cheap. Then add in the “half stripes” on the sleeves or shoulders that several teams showcase these days….makes me appreciate classic unis like the Packers and Bears

  • Jason G. | July 17, 2007 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”120800″][quote comment=”120793″][quote comment=”120719″]I don’t get why they are calling Rich Harden a fuck up
    [/quote]

    You’d feel differently if he was supposed to be anchoring the pitching staff on your fantasy baseball team. I think I’ll change my team name to “Harden the Fuck Up” now.[/quote]

    I thought those bracelets were referring to the often heard, rainy day pleas of concrete contactors…..[/quote]

    Actually, concrete hardening doesn’t have as much to do with water as you might think. It’s a chemical process, not a drying process.

  • joe | July 17, 2007 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”120799″]On the National Orange League poster: The Penguins, Devils, Flames, Blackhawks, and Oilers actually look pretty good with some orange in their logo. The rest are just weird, but those five it works for just nicely.[/quote]

    The blackhawks looks good with orange since its always had orange, one feather is always orange.

  • Stuby | July 17, 2007 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”120807″][quote comment=”120774″][quote comment=”120585″]I guess orange is the new red. or black. or teal.[/quote]

    You know… I was going to email Paul about this, but I’ll just post here.

    This would be an excellent subject of an article or blog entry. (Maybe Paul’s done it already?)

    A short history of color trends in sports (or one sport). When I say trends, I mean it crosses the threshold where many teams use the color even when it is not their primary color (and even clashes).

    Examples from baseball would be:

    Powder blues in the 70s-80s
    Black in the 90s
    Red (maybe?) now?
    Teal was big in many sports in the 90s

    The key would be to detail who started it, who did it well, and who executed it poorly/should never have tried it.[/quote]

    Seems to me that the team that started the black trend in the 90s was either the L.A. Kings, switching once Gretz got to town…either that, or the 2-Legit Falcons going black in 1990/91.

    As far as the Red Tidal wave…I’m going to cast my lot with the Tampa Bay Bucs. They had that GREAT uni change in the late 90s…that dark red…and seems to me like the trend keyed off of that.[/quote]
    Isn’t it ironic that the Sharks kind of started the teal revolution in ’91, now they’re riding the orange wave. Alot like the Diamondbacks in terms of trying to latch onto a hot trend.

    Orange, teal and black is just a horrendous color combo. That orange sticks out like the snot-green on the Seahawks unis.

  • Matthew S. | July 17, 2007 at 3:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”120770″][quote comment=”120760″][quote comment=”120757″][quote comment=”120633″]You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.[/quote]

    Biggio wore the old school uni back in 89 when he entered the league. Not the full-on tequila sunrise, but at least with the shoulder stripes.[/quote]

    The unis with the stripes on the sholders were used till 1994 when the dark navy blue and gold uniforms were used. Baggs abd Biggio both wore those…

    Now, I have yet to find images from a throwback game where they wore the Rainbow Guts…though I know they have…[/quote]
    They last wore them on August 3, 2006
    Matt Albers in Rainbow Uniform[/quote]

    Here’s another one for you James P.

    http://blogs.chron.c...

  • Luke Larson | July 17, 2007 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”120819″][quote comment=”120770″][quote comment=”120760″][quote comment=”120757″][quote comment=”120633″]You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.[/quote]

    Biggio wore the old school uni back in 89 when he entered the league. Not the full-on tequila sunrise, but at least with the shoulder stripes.[/quote]

    The unis with the stripes on the sholders were used till 1994 when the dark navy blue and gold uniforms were used. Baggs abd Biggio both wore those…

    Now, I have yet to find images from a throwback game where they wore the Rainbow Guts…though I know they have…[/quote]
    They last wore them on August 3, 2006
    Matt Albers in Rainbow Uniform[/quote]

    Here’s another one for you James P.

    http://blogs.chron.c...

    eric munson hit the longest homerun that i’ve ever seen in person.

  • Matthew S. | July 17, 2007 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”120690″][quote comment=”120684″]Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
    Or are they good because they are good?[/quote]

    They are eyesores. Much like the Islanders’ Fishermen jerseys, you can’t help but to love them for how hideous they were/are.[/quote]

    Teebz, I couldn’t disagree more. While the Islander’s fishermen jerseys were nauseating and probably caused motion sickness for fans during home games, the Astros tequila sunrise jerseys are emblematic of the style and color concepts of the 1970s and, while tacky as hell, they are awesome in their own way (I’m sure you’d reverse the teams in your counterargument as I am aware of your fondness for the Islanders fishermen jerseys). My point, though, is that the Islanders uniforms were considered garish when they came out, whereas the Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s and were only considered truly ‘ugly’ by some (though never by me) in later years.

  • Matthew S. | July 17, 2007 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”120820″][quote comment=”120819″][quote comment=”120770″][quote comment=”120760″][quote comment=”120757″][quote comment=”120633″]You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.[/quote]

    Biggio wore the old school uni back in 89 when he entered the league. Not the full-on tequila sunrise, but at least with the shoulder stripes.[/quote]

    The unis with the stripes on the sholders were used till 1994 when the dark navy blue and gold uniforms were used. Baggs abd Biggio both wore those…

    Now, I have yet to find images from a throwback game where they wore the Rainbow Guts…though I know they have…[/quote]
    They last wore them on August 3, 2006
    Matt Albers in Rainbow Uniform[/quote]

    Here’s another one for you James P.

    http://blogs.chron.c...

    eric munson hit the longest homerun that i’ve ever seen in person.[/quote]

    Garner has some experience wearing the rainbow jerseys for the Astros: http://www.sportsbla...

    Dare I say his mustache in his playing days was even fuller than it is now?

  • Paris | July 17, 2007 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”120821″][quote comment=”120690″][quote comment=”120684″]Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
    Or are they good because they are good?[/quote]

    They are eyesores. Much like the Islanders’ Fishermen jerseys, you can’t help but to love them for how hideous they were/are.[/quote]

    Teebz, I couldn’t disagree more. While the Islander’s fishermen jerseys were nauseating and probably caused motion sickness for fans during home games, the Astros tequila sunrise jerseys are emblematic of the style and color concepts of the 1970s and, while tacky as hell, they are awesome in their own way (I’m sure you’d reverse the teams in your counterargument as I am aware of your fondness for the Islanders fishermen jerseys). My point, though, is that the Islanders uniforms were considered garish when they came out, whereas the Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s and were only considered truly ‘ugly’ by some (though never by me) in later years.[/quote]

    Hear hear!!!
    – from an almost former Islanders fan.

  • SWC Susan | July 17, 2007 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”120617″]I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I dig those Astros rainbow unis. I mean, just look at Ryan.

    I even like the more subdued version, but I do like these the best.[/quote]

    I love them! I even bought a jersey koozie the other day at the game!

  • Perry | July 17, 2007 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”120698″]Like someone said earlier, the Astrodome could get quite chilly even in the middle of summer. I used to take a sweatshirt to games, and usually had it on by the 5th or 6th inning.[/quote]

    Texans apparently revel in cranking up the AC, I guess “because they can.” I’ve lived lots of places with hot summers, but only when I lived in Austin did I have to always remember to take a jacket when I went to the movies in summer.

  • SWC Susan | July 17, 2007 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”120734″][quote comment=”120708″]Paul, why dont you do a entire entry devoted to Pan Am uniforms…ive been watching them and i can tell u there are a lot of interesting ones…[/quote]

    How about these?

    http://www.uniformfr...

    ed[/quote]

    WOW… I don’t really even know where to go with that!

  • ThresherK | July 17, 2007 at 3:27 pm |

    “The Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s”

    Any coincidence that the expansion Astros, Padres and Expos all seemed to make a clean start in those hippy-dippy 60s and polychromic polyester 70s, then later went to pinstripes and other faux traditions which they didn’t have?

  • Teebz | July 17, 2007 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”120821″][quote comment=”120690″][quote comment=”120684″]Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
    Or are they good because they are good?[/quote]

    They are eyesores. Much like the Islanders’ Fishermen jerseys, you can’t help but to love them for how hideous they were/are.[/quote]

    Teebz, I couldn’t disagree more. While the Islander’s fishermen jerseys were nauseating and probably caused motion sickness for fans during home games, the Astros tequila sunrise jerseys are emblematic of the style and color concepts of the 1970s and, while tacky as hell, they are awesome in their own way (I’m sure you’d reverse the teams in your counterargument as I am aware of your fondness for the Islanders fishermen jerseys). My point, though, is that the Islanders uniforms were considered garish when they came out, whereas the Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s and were only considered truly ‘ugly’ by some (though never by me) in later years.[/quote]

    The fact that the Isles only wore them for one season never allowed them to be appreciated as much as the Astros’ uniforms were/are. If they had survived the length of time that the Astros’ Rainbow Brites had, I’m guaranteeing you that people would look more fondly on them.

    While I’m not saying that the Islanders’ jerseys were better (I appreciate the old Astros uniforms), I simply was relating the eyesore-ness of the Astros innovative design to the Islanders innovative design. They both went against the grain of what was considered traditional and contemporary, and now one is considered a “throwback” while the other is considered a “throw-away”?

    While it’s true that I appreciate the Fisherman jerseys more than the average person, if the Islanders had worn it for 10-15 seasons, it would have been accepted as commonplace, much like the Astros’ uniforms have been accepted.

  • Stuby | July 17, 2007 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”120822″][quote comment=”120820″][quote comment=”120819″][quote comment=”120770″][quote comment=”120760″][quote comment=”120757″][quote comment=”120633″]You’d be suprised how many people wear the rainbow jerseys to Astros’ games. Unfortuantely, a lot of people have Biggio or Bagwell on the back. I feel like telling them that those players have never worn those jerseys accept in throwback games.[/quote]

    Biggio wore the old school uni back in 89 when he entered the league. Not the full-on tequila sunrise, but at least with the shoulder stripes.[/quote]

    The unis with the stripes on the sholders were used till 1994 when the dark navy blue and gold uniforms were used. Baggs abd Biggio both wore those…

    Now, I have yet to find images from a throwback game where they wore the Rainbow Guts…though I know they have…[/quote]
    They last wore them on August 3, 2006
    Matt Albers in Rainbow Uniform[/quote]

    Here’s another one for you James P.

    http://blogs.chron.c...

    eric munson hit the longest homerun that i’ve ever seen in person.[/quote]

    Garner has some experience wearing the rainbow jerseys for the Astros: http://www.sportsbla...

    Dare I say his mustache in his playing days was even fuller than it is now?[/quote]

    Garner did graduate from the Charlie Finley school of mustache growth, dontcha know.

  • Paris | July 17, 2007 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”120835″][quote comment=”120821″][quote comment=”120690″][quote comment=”120684″]Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
    Or are they good because they are good?[/quote]

    They are eyesores. Much like the Islanders’ Fishermen jerseys, you can’t help but to love them for how hideous they were/are.[/quote]

    Teebz, I couldn’t disagree more. While the Islander’s fishermen jerseys were nauseating and probably caused motion sickness for fans during home games, the Astros tequila sunrise jerseys are emblematic of the style and color concepts of the 1970s and, while tacky as hell, they are awesome in their own way (I’m sure you’d reverse the teams in your counterargument as I am aware of your fondness for the Islanders fishermen jerseys). My point, though, is that the Islanders uniforms were considered garish when they came out, whereas the Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s and were only considered truly ‘ugly’ by some (though never by me) in later years.[/quote]

    The fact that the Isles only wore them for one season never allowed them to be appreciated as much as the Astros’ uniforms were/are. If they had survived the length of time that the Astros’ Rainbow Brites had, I’m guaranteeing you that people would look more fondly on them.

    While I’m not saying that the Islanders’ jerseys were better (I appreciate the old Astros uniforms), I simply was relating the eyesore-ness of the Astros innovative design to the Islanders innovative design. They both went against the grain of what was considered traditional and contemporary, and now one is considered a “throwback” while the other is considered a “throw-away”?

    While it’s true that I appreciate the Fisherman jerseys more than the average person, if the Islanders had worn it for 10-15 seasons, it would have been accepted as commonplace, much like the Astros’ uniforms have been accepted.[/quote]

    Teebz, Your theory is flawed. If they wore them for 10-15 years, your right, they would have become accepted. But that doesn’t make them good.

    I worked retail for 5 years, made a good living, worked 80 pers week and I enjoyed it imensely while I was there. When I left, I earned the same, worked 40 hours a week and had a life.

    I never missed what I didn’t have (while working ensane hours) but the latter is certainly better.

  • John Baranowski | July 17, 2007 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”120835″][quote comment=”120821″][quote comment=”120690″][quote comment=”120684″]Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
    Or are they good because they are good?[/quote]

    They are eyesores. Much like the Islanders’ Fishermen jerseys, you can’t help but to love them for how hideous they were/are.[/quote]

    Teebz, I couldn’t disagree more. While the Islander’s fishermen jerseys were nauseating and probably caused motion sickness for fans during home games, the Astros tequila sunrise jerseys are emblematic of the style and color concepts of the 1970s and, while tacky as hell, they are awesome in their own way (I’m sure you’d reverse the teams in your counterargument as I am aware of your fondness for the Islanders fishermen jerseys). My point, though, is that the Islanders uniforms were considered garish when they came out, whereas the Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s and were only considered truly ‘ugly’ by some (though never by me) in later years.[/quote]

    The fact that the Isles only wore them for one season never allowed them to be appreciated as much as the Astros’ uniforms were/are. If they had survived the length of time that the Astros’ Rainbow Brites had, I’m guaranteeing you that people would look more fondly on them.

    While I’m not saying that the Islanders’ jerseys were better (I appreciate the old Astros uniforms), I simply was relating the eyesore-ness of the Astros innovative design to the Islanders innovative design. They both went against the grain of what was considered traditional and contemporary, and now one is considered a “throwback” while the other is considered a “throw-away”?

    While it’s true that I appreciate the Fisherman jerseys more than the average person, if the Islanders had worn it for 10-15 seasons, it would have been accepted as commonplace, much like the Astros’ uniforms have been accepted.[/quote]

    actually the isles wore them for three years, 1995-1998, and people kept screaming to get rid of the fisherman logo, so they had the wave jerseys with the circle logo, and eventually they just said “screw it, we’re not winning, there’s too many jokes about fish sticks, let’s go back to the old jerseys”

  • diz | July 17, 2007 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”120797″][quote comment=”120697″]Aston Villa has released their 2007-2008 Home kit. The Villans left Hummel and have signed with Nike.
    2007-8 Home Kit[/quote]

    They also released their away kit, which proves that pinstripe football kits can be done.

    http://www.avfc.prem...,,10265~1074481,00.html[/quote]

    Only about 25 years after Liverpool

  • Matthew S. | July 17, 2007 at 3:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”120835″][quote comment=”120821″][quote comment=”120690″][quote comment=”120684″]Are the Astros’ rainbow jersy like a B movie? Are they are so bad that they are good?
    Or are they good because they are good?[/quote]

    They are eyesores. Much like the Islanders’ Fishermen jerseys, you can’t help but to love them for how hideous they were/are.[/quote]

    Teebz, I couldn’t disagree more. While the Islander’s fishermen jerseys were nauseating and probably caused motion sickness for fans during home games, the Astros tequila sunrise jerseys are emblematic of the style and color concepts of the 1970s and, while tacky as hell, they are awesome in their own way (I’m sure you’d reverse the teams in your counterargument as I am aware of your fondness for the Islanders fishermen jerseys). My point, though, is that the Islanders uniforms were considered garish when they came out, whereas the Astros uniforms just fit into the overall gaudiness of color style that was the 70s and were only considered truly ‘ugly’ by some (though never by me) in later years.[/quote]

    The fact that the Isles only wore them for one season never allowed them to be appreciated as much as the Astros’ uniforms were/are. If they had survived the length of time that the Astros’ Rainbow Brites had, I’m guaranteeing you that people would look more fondly on them.

    While I’m not saying that the Islanders’ jerseys were better (I appreciate the old Astros uniforms), I simply was relating the eyesore-ness of the Astros innovative design to the Islanders innovative design. They both went against the grain of what was considered traditional and contemporary, and now one is considered a “throwback” while the other is considered a “throw-away”?

    While it’s true that I appreciate the Fisherman jerseys more than the average person, if the Islanders had worn it for 10-15 seasons, it would have been accepted as commonplace, much like the Astros’ uniforms have been accepted.[/quote]

    That’s a legitimate point in your first paragraph that I had admittedly not considered.

    That being said, the uniforms differ stylistically in that the Astros, in choosing yellow, orange, and red were following the trend in uniform and overall design toward bright and earth tone colors that was seen in the mid 1970s.

    Witness the Padres: http://exhibits.base...

    and the Pirates: http://exhibits.base...

    So the Astros uniforms were fitting into an overall design aesthetic that was considered fashionable at the time but now is looked upon with amusement or even bewilderment.

    The Islanders jerseys, as best as I can tell, were not following any particular design or color trend (though I am not an expert on hockey uniforms like you are, so feel free to pick apart the assertion). I do find them endearing however. Perhaps even moreso since they were around only a brief time.

  • Teebz | July 17, 2007 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”120840″]
    Teebz, Your theory is flawed. If they wore them for 10-15 years, your right, they would have become accepted. But that doesn’t make them good.

    I worked retail for 5 years, made a good living, worked 80 pers week and I enjoyed it imensely while I was there. When I left, I earned the same, worked 40 hours a week and had a life.

    I never missed what I didn’t have (while working ensane hours) but the latter is certainly better.[/quote]

    Your argument has a fallacy. We’re comparing uniform popularity, not salary rates between jobs. There’s absolutely no relation there.

    My argument is this: if Houston wears those uniforms for one season, and people ridiculed the Astros for their uniform, why did they keep them?

    People all over North America ridiculed the Islanders, and they caved to the pressure. Had they kept wearing them, do you not think that more people would have bought the jersey?

    Hell, the Barney Rubble Hairpieces/Buffa-Slug jersey was one of the top selling jerseys this season. How many people on this board have one? My guess is not many with the amount of ridicule that we gave it. It was ridiculed on television, on radio, in the newspapers, and yet the Sabres continue to wear them. And people continue to buy them.

  • ThresherK | July 17, 2007 at 3:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”120769″][quote comment=”120764″]OMG! You simply must go to the Astros Daily website, then click on “History” > “Astros Card Gallery” > “1975 – 1987” > “1981 Tuscon (AAA)” – then be ready to scream (this is your only warning) ;o)[/quote]
    Oh, sweet Jesus…[/quote]

    In light of these, I see little reason to apologize for any NASL uniform ever again. Even these.

  • schuby | July 17, 2007 at 3:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”120806″][quote comment=”120793″][quote comment=”120719″]I don’t get why they are calling Rich Harden a up
    [/quote]

    You’d feel differently if he was supposed to be anchoring the pitching staff on your fantasy baseball team. I think I’ll change my team name to “Harden the Up” now.[/quote]

    I’m not saying that fantasy baseball isn’t important, but if it’s that important to you that you have to rip a guy for being hurt or not pitching well, you may be a little obsessive about FANTASY baseball. I can’t stress the FANTASY part of that enough.

    How do you think the A’s feel? They’re the team that is paying him. If he’s on your fantasy baseball team, you have to know the risks when taking him. Do your homework next time. It is, after all, YOUR FANTASY baseball team.[/quote]

    Not a game, not a game, but FANTASY. We talkin ’bout FANTASY.

  • Matthew S. | July 17, 2007 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”120846″][quote comment=”120840″]
    Teebz, Your theory is flawed. If they wore them for 10-15 years, your right, they would have become accepted. But that doesn’t make them good.

    I worked retail for 5 years, made a good living, worked 80 pers week and I enjoyed it imensely while I was there. When I left, I earned the same, worked 40 hours a week and had a life.

    I never missed what I didn’t have (while working ensane hours) but the latter is certainly better.[/quote]

    Your argument has a fallacy. We’re comparing uniform popularity, not salary rates between jobs. There’s absolutely no relation there.

    My argument is this: if Houston wears those uniforms for one season, and people ridiculed the Astros for their uniform, why did they keep them?

    People all over North America ridiculed the Islanders, and they caved to the pressure. Had they kept wearing them, do you not think that more people would have bought the jersey?

    Hell, the Barney Rubble Hairpieces/Buffa-Slug jersey was one of the top selling jerseys this season. How many people on this board have one? My guess is not many with the amount of ridicule that we gave it. It was ridiculed on television, on radio, in the newspapers, and yet the Sabres continue to wear them. And people continue to buy them.[/quote]

    That brings up an interesting question that I wish I had the answer to (not being alive yet in the 70s, I am ill equipped to try to answer it anyway). What did people think of the Astros, Pirates, Padres, etc uniforms when they first came out?

  • ThresherK | July 17, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    …by which I mean even these.

  • Teebz | July 17, 2007 at 3:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”120845″]
    The Islanders jerseys, as best as I can tell, were not following any particular design or color trend (though I am not an expert on hockey uniforms like you are, so feel free to pick apart the assertion). I do find them endearing however. Perhaps even moreso since they were around only a brief time.[/quote]

    I won’t pick it apart, Matthew. The discussion is great! :o)

    The Islanders did try to incorporate their navy blue, white, and orange colours in their colour scheme, but they added teal. They did pick up on the trend that San Jose started.

    John B.: The Fisherman was worn for one season and a bit only. The Isles went back to their traditional logo during the 1996-97 season. They kept the wave pattern on their jerseys until the 1998-99 season, but the Fisherman was retired after only one year and a few months.

  • ThresherK | July 17, 2007 at 3:56 pm |

    Let me try that again.

    And for those who have read my botched posts this far, here’s a bonus.

  • Stuby | July 17, 2007 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”120850″][quote comment=”120846″][quote comment=”120840″]
    Teebz, Your theory is flawed. If they wore them for 10-15 years, your right, they would have become accepted. But that doesn’t make them good.

    I worked retail for 5 years, made a good living, worked 80 pers week and I enjoyed it imensely while I was there. When I left, I earned the same, worked 40 hours a week and had a life.

    I never missed what I didn’t have (while working ensane hours) but the latter is certainly better.[/quote]

    Your argument has a fallacy. We’re comparing uniform popularity, not salary rates between jobs. There’s absolutely no relation there.

    My argument is this: if Houston wears those uniforms for one season, and people ridiculed the Astros for their uniform, why did they keep them?

    People all over North America ridiculed the Islanders, and they caved to the pressure. Had they kept wearing them, do you not think that more people would have bought the jersey?

    Hell, the Barney Rubble Hairpieces/Buffa-Slug jersey was one of the top selling jerseys this season. How many people on this board have one? My guess is not many with the amount of ridicule that we gave it. It was ridiculed on television, on radio, in the newspapers, and yet the Sabres continue to wear them. And people continue to buy them.[/quote]

    That brings up an interesting question that I wish I had the answer to (not being alive yet in the 70s, I am ill equipped to try to answer it anyway). What did people think of the Astros, Pirates, Padres, etc uniforms when they first came out?[/quote]
    Trust me, everything was hideous looking in the ’70s. The uniforms fit right in. Even teams with classy looks (Cubs, Giants, Braves, Indians) jumped on the garish bandwagon.

    I loved the Astros in the 70s because of their uniforms.

  • Kip Whiffle | July 17, 2007 at 4:00 pm |

    I loved those late 70s, early 80s Pirates uniforms. But then again, I was only about 8 years old when those things were introduced. And, I still like those unis better than those hideous red vests they tend to wear on Friday nights.

  • Paris | July 17, 2007 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”120846″][quote comment=”120840″]
    Teebz, Your theory is flawed. If they wore them for 10-15 years, your right, they would have become accepted. But that doesn’t make them good.

    I worked retail for 5 years, made a good living, worked 80 pers week and I enjoyed it imensely while I was there. When I left, I earned the same, worked 40 hours a week and had a life.

    I never missed what I didn’t have (while working ensane hours) but the latter is certainly better.[/quote]

    Your argument has a fallacy. We’re comparing uniform popularity, not salary rates between jobs. There’s absolutely no relation there.

    My argument is this: if Houston wears those uniforms for one season, and people ridiculed the Astros for their uniform, why did they keep them?

    People all over North America ridiculed the Islanders, and they caved to the pressure. Had they kept wearing them, do you not think that more people would have bought the jersey?

    Hell, the Barney Rubble Hairpieces/Buffa-Slug jersey was one of the top selling jerseys this season. How many people on this board have one? My guess is not many with the amount of ridicule that we gave it. It was ridiculed on television, on radio, in the newspapers, and yet the Sabres continue to wear them. And people continue to buy them.[/quote]

    My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.

  • PJ | July 17, 2007 at 4:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”120812″]After watching the NFL Network’s “Americas Game” I have decided that 1994 was the beginning of the end for NFL uniforms. They wore the throwbacks and then everyone started to change their design (Bucaneers, Falcons, Lions, Seahawks and more recently the Vikings, Cardinals). The 49ers had some of the sharpest unis out there pre ’94 as well as the Cowboys but now they both just look cheap. Then add in the “half stripes” on the sleeves or shoulders that several teams showcase these days….makes me appreciate classic unis like the Packers and Bears[/quote]

    Weren’t all those changes made several years later (with the Buccs being the first?). Hard to attribute that to something that happened in 1994.

    Also, as for the mention of teams with the “half-stripes,” I want to give a shout out to the Panthers, who (except for the super huge lineman) manage to get that shoulder stripe all the way around more often than not.

  • PJ | July 17, 2007 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”120743″][quote comment=”120726″]True they are not the NY Metropolitans like how Knicks ARE the Knickerbockers, but “Mets” is based off of Metropolitans.[/quote]

    Well, kinda. As Mr. Met said so well above.

    In any case, the original assertion that the Houston team actually changed their nickname to the Astronauts, in honor of NASA’s Johnson Space Center… but like the New York “Metropolitans”, have only used the shortened version of their name is at least partially incorrect.

    I still doubt that the Astros were ever the “Astronauts”.[/quote]

    Call me crazy (or stupid), but I always thought Astros was short for Astronomicals. But that could have just been a Marty Brennaman-ism.

  • Teebz | July 17, 2007 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”120862″]

    My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.[/quote]

    Then why are the Astros’ uniforms considered good, and the Islanders’ Fisherman jerseys considered bad?

    The problem is that the Isles only wore the Captain highliner look for a year and a bit unlike the Astros who wore their uniforms for 10 years or so.

    People are reluctant to radical change. But people accept if given enough time (my argument).

  • GregD | July 17, 2007 at 4:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”120767″][quote comment=”120697″]Aston Villa has released their 2007-2008 Home kit. The Villans left Hummel and have signed with Nike.
    2007-8 Home Kit[/quote]

    I’m kinda jealous. Those Villa unis look great, I just wish West Ham had Nike jerseys instead.

    But that’s a great change from Hummel to Nike. Get rid of those awful Hummel ‘V’ things down the side and replace em with a nice, simple, traditional look.

    Why can’t all of Nike’s uni design crews do as well as the soccer crews do? Nike Soccer has been on fire the last couple years.[/quote]

    I had no idea that those chevrons were Hummel logo creep. I like them so much less now. I just thought they were kind of a fun design flourish.

  • Robert | July 17, 2007 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”120831″][quote comment=”120698″]Like someone said earlier, the Astrodome could get quite chilly even in the middle of summer. I used to take a sweatshirt to games, and usually had it on by the 5th or 6th inning.[/quote]

    Texans apparently revel in cranking up the AC, I guess “because they can.” I’ve lived lots of places with hot summers, but only when I lived in Austin did I have to always remember to take a jacket when I went to the movies in summer.[/quote]

    Yep. My wife and kids went to the movies yesterday in Dallas, dressed in jeans and sweatshirts.

  • Chad G | July 17, 2007 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”120872″][quote comment=”120862″]

    My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.[/quote]

    Then why are the Astros’ uniforms considered good, and the Islanders’ Fisherman jerseys considered bad?

    The problem is that the Isles only wore the Captain highliner look for a year and a bit unlike the Astros who wore their uniforms for 10 years or so.

    People are reluctant to radical change. But people accept if given enough time (my argument).[/quote]

    I don’t think anyone considers the Astros jerseys good, they are just nostalgic.

  • jesse | July 17, 2007 at 4:12 pm |

    .[quote comment=”120860″]I loved those late 70s, early 80s Pirates uniforms. But then again, I was only about 8 years old when those things were introduced. And, I still like those unis better than those hideous red vests they tend to wear on Friday nights.[/quote]

    Anything would be better than those red vests, and the Pirates really need a jersey with sleaves.

    They should bring back a Black jersey with sleaves based on the late 70’s model, except with buttons and the the new uniform number font. I think that might be a big seller, maybe even with a city of Pittsburgh Flag patch on one sleave.

    As an aside, as you can see, there is light blue in the flag, the Pens used to wear a jersey that incorporated light blue

  • jesse | July 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |

    1970’s Black Pirates Jersey Picture it with buttons.

  • Matthew S. | July 17, 2007 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”120872″][quote comment=”120862″]

    My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.[/quote]

    Then why are the Astros’ uniforms considered good, and the Islanders’ Fisherman jerseys considered bad?

    The problem is that the Isles only wore the Captain highliner look for a year and a bit unlike the Astros who wore their uniforms for 10 years or so.

    People are reluctant to radical change. But people accept if given enough time (my argument).[/quote]

    The Astros wore some form of the tequila sunrise somewhere on the uniform from 1975-1993. I was 11 when they switched to the blue and gold color scheme and was excited more because it was something new rather than due to distaste for the old design.

    Now I don’t think your assertion is true in it’s entirety. To use another Houston team as an example, most Rockets fans were horrified when the team started wearing these: http://www.frontrowu...

    That didn’t stop the team from wearing them for 7 or so seasons though. By the time they dumped those for the current color scheme/uniforms, most people bid good riddance to the purple and blue pinstripe look.

    Who knows though, maybe they’ll be considered ‘cool’ and ‘retro’ in another 10 years.

  • UW justin | July 17, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”120872″][quote comment=”120862″]

    My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.[/quote]

    Then why are the Astros’ uniforms considered good, and the Islanders’ Fisherman jerseys considered bad?

    The problem is that the Isles only wore the Captain highliner look for a year and a bit unlike the Astros who wore their uniforms for 10 years or so.

    People are reluctant to radical change. But people accept if given enough time (my argument).[/quote]

    And also, when teams wears jerseys for a while, people can attach fond memories and eras to the jersey…then making the design better in the minds of people in the future. For example, the Sonics Space Needle jerseys of the mid-late 90’s…not a good jersey, but they went to the Finals in 96…so I actually like that jersey since it reminds me of those days.

  • Teebz | July 17, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”120879″]
    As an aside, as you can see, there is light blue in the flag, the Pens used to wear a jersey that incorporated light blue[/quote]

    They went lighter than that.

    Here’s Syl Apps Jr.

  • Jared Wheeler | July 17, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    The Astros dugout jackets are actually a light wool, acrylic sweater. In the late 1980’s they actually applied twill lettering to the backs.

  • UW justin | July 17, 2007 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”120884″][quote comment=”120872″][quote comment=”120862″]

    My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.[/quote]

    Then why are the Astros’ uniforms considered good, and the Islanders’ Fisherman jerseys considered bad?

    The problem is that the Isles only wore the Captain highliner look for a year and a bit unlike the Astros who wore their uniforms for 10 years or so.

    People are reluctant to radical change. But people accept if given enough time (my argument).[/quote]

    And also, when teams wears jerseys for a while, people can attach fond memories and eras to the jersey…then making the design better in the minds of people in the future. For example, the Sonics Space Needle jerseys of the mid-late 90’s…not a good jersey, but they went to the Finals in 96…so I actually like that jersey since it reminds me of those days.[/quote]

    That should read Space Needle logo (thankfully the needle never made it on the jersey)…

  • Johnny O | July 17, 2007 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”120710″][quote comment=”120692″][quote comment=”120608″][quote comment=”120606″][quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

    http://chron.com/dis...

    They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.[/quote]

    Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.[/quote]

    Did Michigan go to Adidas?[/quote]

    Yes, Michigan dropped Nike and moved to Adidas joining Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Tennessee as the marquee schools[/quote]
    Don’t forget about Wisconsin. They are an all Adidas school. Adidas may not consider them “marquee”… but their performance on the field speaks for itself.

  • Teebz | July 17, 2007 at 4:23 pm |

    I have nothing on the NBA jerseys. I don’t follow the NBA at all. :o)

  • Shaftman | July 17, 2007 at 4:27 pm |

    It seems that someone at work decided to play a joke on me.

    All previous statements by “Paris” were actually from good ‘ole Shaftman. (didn’t realize that someone switched the name on me)

  • CortM | July 17, 2007 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”120768″]http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsapp/BT/DOMES/HOUSTON/1258-83.jpg

    Wonder where the Astros got the idea for the stripes on the uniforms? I have a hunch…

    http://www.columbia....
    The rainbow jerseys predate the rainbow seats by several years. The rainbow seats were installed during a renovation of the Dome, in (if I remember right) the late 1980’s. Prior to that, the upper deck seats were a reddish orange.

  • SWC Susan | July 17, 2007 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”120768″]http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsapp/BT/DOMES/HOUSTON/1258-83.jpg

    Wonder where the Astros got the idea for the stripes on the uniforms? I have a hunch…

    I think Paul will appreciate the story angle from architecure to team uni design from this link…

    http://www.columbia....

    The Astrodome and the Astros were so named for the astronauts (as most teams in Houston have some link to space). Anyone ever notice how much the tequila sunrise looks like this or this?

  • Matthew S. | July 17, 2007 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”120891″]I have nothing on the NBA jerseys. I don’t follow the NBA at all. :o)[/quote]

    Yes, but surely you can identify what’s ugly and what isn’t. You need no knowledge of the sport to realize that this: http://www.africa.up...

    is better than this: http://www.nba.com/m...

  • jesse | July 17, 2007 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”120894″][quote comment=”120768″]http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsapp/BT/DOMES/HOUSTON/1258-83.jpg

    Wonder where the Astros got the idea for the stripes on the uniforms? I have a hunch…

    I think Paul will appreciate the story angle from architecure to team uni design from this link…

    http://www.columbia....

    The Astrodome and the Astros were so named for the astronauts (as most teams in Houston have some link to space). Anyone ever notice how much the tequila sunrise looks like this or this?[/quote]

    Was the Astros built only for the Astros with the Oilers coming later, or did they both move in at the same time?

  • Nick | July 17, 2007 at 4:32 pm |

    are these considered sheik or cool? i hope not

  • Matthew S. | July 17, 2007 at 4:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”120894″][quote comment=”120768″]http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsapp/BT/DOMES/HOUSTON/1258-83.jpg

    Wonder where the Astros got the idea for the stripes on the uniforms? I have a hunch…

    I think Paul will appreciate the story angle from architecure to team uni design from this link…

    http://www.columbia....

    The Astrodome and the Astros were so named for the astronauts (as most teams in Houston have some link to space). Anyone ever notice how much the tequila sunrise looks like this or this?[/quote]

    Sorry I don’t see it.

    And it’s only the Astros, Comets, and Rockets (as opposed to the Dynamo (MLS), Texans, and Oilers). And actually the Rockets nickname predates the team’s move to Houston and so is a more of a coincidence than a nod to the space industry in and around Houston.

    San Diego Rockets jersey: http://www.dickscour...

  • Boris | July 17, 2007 at 4:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”120895″][quote comment=”120891″]I have nothing on the NBA jerseys. I don’t follow the NBA at all. :o)[/quote]

    Yes, but surely you can identify what’s ugly and what isn’t. You need no knowledge of the sport to realize that this: http://www.africa.up...

    is better than this: http://www.nba.com/m...

    those Jazz jerseys are just as bad

  • Nick | July 17, 2007 at 4:36 pm |

    oops, wrong link

    here

  • Teebz | July 17, 2007 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”120895″][quote comment=”120891″]I have nothing on the NBA jerseys. I don’t follow the NBA at all. :o)[/quote]

    Yes, but surely you can identify what’s ugly and what isn’t. You need no knowledge of the sport to realize that this: http://www.africa.up...

    is better than this: http://www.nba.com/m...

    Frankly, I think the first is boring and plain. The second’s logo is stupid, and the red panels are dumb, but the pinstripes are better.

  • Regg | July 17, 2007 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”120905″][quote comment=”120895″][quote comment=”120891″]I have nothing on the NBA jerseys. I don’t follow the NBA at all. :o)[/quote]

    Yes, but surely you can identify what’s ugly and what isn’t. You need no knowledge of the sport to realize that this: http://www.africa.up...

    is better than this: http://www.nba.com/m...

    Frankly, I think the first is boring and plain. The second’s logo is stupid, and the red panels are dumb, but the pinstripes are better.[/quote]

    pinstripes belong only in Baseball

    and they dont flatter Barkley at all

  • SWC Susan | July 17, 2007 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”120872″][quote comment=”120862″]

    My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.[/quote]

    Then why are the Astros’ uniforms considered good, and the Islanders’ Fisherman jerseys considered bad?

    The problem is that the Isles only wore the Captain highliner look for a year and a bit unlike the Astros who wore their uniforms for 10 years or so.

    People are reluctant to radical change. But people accept if given enough time (my argument).[/quote]

    The fishstick guy is the worst logo ever – which trumps all color combos. Nothing wrong with the Astros logo back then. Can’t really screw up a star… but then, I guess you can. I have a theory about why the Astros can never seal the deal. I can understand the movement of the star here, but here it is just plain not finished!

  • joe | July 17, 2007 at 4:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”120872″][quote comment=”120862″]

    My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.[/quote]

    Then why are the Astros’ uniforms considered good, and the Islanders’ Fisherman jerseys considered bad?

    The problem is that the Isles only wore the Captain highliner look for a year and a bit unlike the Astros who wore their uniforms for 10 years or so.

    People are reluctant to radical change. But people accept if given enough time (my argument).[/quote]

    because the astros weren’t stealing a fish companys logo as their own ;)

  • Dan | July 17, 2007 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”120907″][quote comment=”120872″][quote comment=”120862″]

    My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.[/quote]

    Then why are the Astros’ uniforms considered good, and the Islanders’ Fisherman jerseys considered bad?

    The problem is that the Isles only wore the Captain highliner look for a year and a bit unlike the Astros who wore their uniforms for 10 years or so.

    People are reluctant to radical change. But people accept if given enough time (my argument).[/quote]

    The fishstick guy is the worst logo ever – which trumps all color combos. Nothing wrong with the Astros logo back then. Can’t really screw up a star… but then, I guess you can. I have a theory about why the Astros can never seal the deal. I can understand the movement of the star here, but here it is just plain not finished![/quote]

    SURE, you can screw up a star! Make it blue and stick it on a silver helmet! (Go skins!) :-)

  • SWC Susan | July 17, 2007 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”120900″][quote comment=”120894″][quote comment=”120768″]http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsapp/BT/DOMES/HOUSTON/1258-83.jpg

    Wonder where the Astros got the idea for the stripes on the uniforms? I have a hunch…

    I think Paul will appreciate the story angle from architecure to team uni design from this link…

    http://www.columbia....

    The Astrodome and the Astros were so named for the astronauts (as most teams in Houston have some link to space). Anyone ever notice how much the tequila sunrise looks like this or this?[/quote]

    Sorry I don’t see it.

    And it’s only the Astros, Comets, and Rockets (as opposed to the Dynamo (MLS), Texans, and Oilers). And actually the Rockets nickname predates the team’s move to Houston and so is a more of a coincidence than a nod to the space industry in and around Houston.

    San Diego Rockets jersey: http://www.dickscour...

    Until 1836/Dynamo and Texans came along recently, the Oilers were the only standouts. Trust me, if Les Alexander wanted to rename the Rockets, he would have…

  • Shaftman | July 17, 2007 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”120908″][quote comment=”120872″][quote comment=”120862″]

    My argument is simply that just because you get used to things it doesn’t make them good. You’re mind can be fooled into accepting it.[/quote]

    Then why are the Astros’ uniforms considered good, and the Islanders’ Fisherman jerseys considered bad?

    The problem is that the Isles only wore the Captain highliner look for a year and a bit unlike the Astros who wore their uniforms for 10 years or so.

    People are reluctant to radical change. But people accept if given enough time (my argument).[/quote]

    because the astros weren’t stealing a fish companys logo as their own ;)[/quote]

    It wasn’t even that, I think we would have been more accepting of a change if they had attempted to keep the logo/crest. Add the fact that (IMHOO) they went so over the top; it was destined to fail. I didn’t mind the attempt, but I really appreciated the fact that the organization listened and went back to the original (with a few tweaks).

  • Matthew S. | July 17, 2007 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”120914″][quote comment=”120900″][quote comment=”120894″][quote comment=”120768″]http://www.columbia.edu/cu/gsapp/BT/DOMES/HOUSTON/1258-83.jpg

    Wonder where the Astros got the idea for the stripes on the uniforms? I have a hunch…

    I think Paul will appreciate the story angle from architecure to team uni design from this link…

    http://www.columbia....

    The Astrodome and the Astros were so named for the astronauts (as most teams in Houston have some link to space). Anyone ever notice how much the tequila sunrise looks like this or this?[/quote]

    Sorry I don’t see it.

    And it’s only the Astros, Comets, and Rockets (as opposed to the Dynamo (MLS), Texans, and Oilers). And actually the Rockets nickname predates the team’s move to Houston and so is a more of a coincidence than a nod to the space industry in and around Houston.

    San Diego Rockets jersey: http://www.dickscour...

    Until 1836/Dynamo and Texans came along recently, the Oilers were the only standouts. Trust me, if Les Alexander wanted to rename the Rockets, he would have…[/quote]

    Good point. Though by the time Les Alexander bought the team in 1991 or so, the Rockets had been in Houston for 20+ years. If any change in name was going to happen, it would’ve been when the team moved from San Diego. And now that I’ve searched my memory a little more, I think I recall reading that the San Diego (later Houston) Rockets were originally named because San Diego was a center of atlas or saturn rocket construction for NASA when the team came into being.

  • Dane | July 17, 2007 at 4:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”120764″]OMG! You simply must go to the Astros Daily website, then click on “History” > “Astros Card Gallery” > “1975 – 1987” > “1981 Tuscon (AAA)” – then be ready to scream (this is your only warning) ;o)[/quote]

    I like how Bert Roberge is wearing the Astros’ cap, while everyone else is wearing the cheesy mesh Toros trucker hat.

  • Teebz | July 17, 2007 at 4:59 pm |

    How is this worse than this? Seriously?

  • Matthew S. | July 17, 2007 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”120920″]How is this worse than this? Seriously?[/quote]

    I don’t think it is worse. But then I absolutely despised that Rockets logo.

  • Shaftman | July 17, 2007 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”120921″][quote comment=”120920″]How is this worse than this? Seriously?[/quote]

    I don’t think it is worse. But then I absolutely despised that Rockets logo.[/quote]

    I agree…they are equally hideous.

  • Teebz | July 17, 2007 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”120928″][quote comment=”120921″][quote comment=”120920″]How is this worse than this? Seriously?[/quote]

    I don’t think it is worse. But then I absolutely despised that Rockets logo.[/quote]

    I agree…they are equally hideous.[/quote]

    Is the Fisherman worse than this?

  • Christopher | July 17, 2007 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”120919″][quote comment=”120764″]OMG! You simply must go to the Astros Daily website, then click on “History” > “Astros Card Gallery” > “1975 – 1987” > “1981 Tuscon (AAA)” – then be ready to scream (this is your only warning) ;o)[/quote]

    I like how Bert Roberge is wearing the Astros’ cap, while everyone else is wearing the cheesy mesh Toros trucker hat.[/quote]

    Cheesy? No way, the trucker hats rock!

  • joe | July 17, 2007 at 5:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”120764″]OMG! You simply must go to the Astros Daily website, then click on “History” > “Astros Card Gallery” > “1975 – 1987” > “1981 Tuscon (AAA)” – then be ready to scream (this is your only warning) ;o)[/quote]

    thats not even the worst Toros jersey. Look at the middle of this page for the 1980 version!
    http://www.bigsoccer...

  • SWC Susan | July 17, 2007 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”120920″]How is this worse than this? Seriously?[/quote]

    No contest, Teebz! As I have said before… it was a contest and the face on the rocket (which I in the minority really liked) was a nod to another Houston team (The Aeros which had the face on the old war plane) – which makes that two standouts if the IHL counts. And I guess it kind of has to count… since Gordie Howe has his jersey in the rafters. And if it counts… then you have the Houston Apollos too. As fasr as the rockets, it was the stripes that made those unis bad, not the logo! ;)

  • SWC Susan | July 17, 2007 at 5:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”120938″][quote comment=”120920″]How is this worse than this? Seriously?[/quote]

    No contest, Teebz! As I have said before… it was a contest and the face on the rocket (which I in the minority really liked) was a nod to another Houston team (The Aeros which had the face on the old war plane) – which makes that two standouts if the IHL counts. And I guess it kind of has to count… since Gordie Howe has his jersey in the rafters. And if it counts… then you have the Houston Apollos too. As fasr as the rockets, it was the stripes that made those unis bad, not the logo! ;)[/quote]

    To clarify, that adds the Houston Apollos to the space theme.

  • PJ | July 17, 2007 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”120890″][quote comment=”120710″][quote comment=”120692″][quote comment=”120608″][quote comment=”120606″][quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

    http://chron.com/dis...

    They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.[/quote]

    Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.[/quote]

    Did Michigan go to Adidas?[/quote]

    Yes, Michigan dropped Nike and moved to Adidas joining Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Tennessee as the marquee schools[/quote]
    Don’t forget about Wisconsin. They are an all Adidas school. Adidas may not consider them “marquee”… but their performance on the field speaks for itself.[/quote]

    Isn’t Northwestern an Adidas school as well? I can understand them being omitted from the blog since their primary color is purple (which I, myself have no problem with–kinda like them actually).

  • John Baranowski | July 17, 2007 at 5:57 pm |

    am i the only one who kinda-sorta likes the fisherman logo? i’ve always thought a great logo shows a picture of the team name, shows what sport it is, and maybe deals with some heritage of the city with the logo, and looks tough in some way.

    that’s why i love the pats old logo so much, a colonial soldier snapping a football…it represents everything it should

    i mean, what is an islander? it’s a fisherman, one of those real hardcore old salt types. he has a hockey stick and is in front of a net, so the sport is there…now maybe if it didn’t look so much like the gorton’s fisherman, it’d be much more accepted, but i think as a logo, it’s pretty great

    …now the wave jersey, on the other hand…

  • SWC Susan | July 17, 2007 at 6:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”120954″]am i the only one who kinda-sorta likes the fisherman logo? i’ve always thought a great logo shows a picture of the team name, shows what sport it is, and maybe deals with some heritage of the city with the logo, and looks tough in some way.

    that’s why i love the pats old logo so much, a colonial soldier snapping a football…it represents everything it should

    i mean, what is an islander? it’s a fisherman, one of those real hardcore old salt types. he has a hockey stick and is in front of a net, so the sport is there…now maybe if it didn’t look so much like the gorton’s fisherman, it’d be much more accepted, but i think as a logo, it’s pretty great

    …now the wave jersey, on the other hand…[/quote]

    Correct, I think it stems with the Gorton fisherman… and the colors don’t hurt. Otherwise, your points are all good. My main preference that it shows some type of city heritage… pretty much why I hate the naming of stadiums after companies so much.

  • adr | July 17, 2007 at 6:15 pm |

    Evidently a tweaked Ottawa Senators logo was leaked

  • Shaftman | July 17, 2007 at 6:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”120956″][quote comment=”120954″]am i the only one who kinda-sorta likes the fisherman logo? i’ve always thought a great logo shows a picture of the team name, shows what sport it is, and maybe deals with some heritage of the city with the logo, and looks tough in some way.

    that’s why i love the pats old logo so much, a colonial soldier snapping a football…it represents everything it should

    i mean, what is an islander? it’s a fisherman, one of those real hardcore old salt types. he has a hockey stick and is in front of a net, so the sport is there…now maybe if it didn’t look so much like the gorton’s fisherman, it’d be much more accepted, but i think as a logo, it’s pretty great

    …now the wave jersey, on the other hand…[/quote]

    Correct, I think it stems with the Gorton fisherman… and the colors don’t hurt. Otherwise, your points are all good. My main preference that it shows some type of city heritage… pretty much why I hate the naming of stadiums after companies so much.[/quote]

    I disliked the fisherman sweaters for a few reasons.

    1) The colors of the islanders were Blue/Orange for the color off Nassuau County. I didn’t like the addition of the teal because it was merely going after the “cool” factor.

    2) The original logo was/is perfect, don’t screw with a good thing.

    3) It was just too busy (the same reason I don’t really care for their orange alternates)

    I did like the Lighthouse design they made for it and would not mind if they took out the teal and incorporated it into the current uni’s (because the lighthouse is a very good representation for the Island).

  • Kris McInnis | July 17, 2007 at 6:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

    Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in execution, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

    Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… Sorry about this.

  • Perry | July 17, 2007 at 6:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”120850″][quote comment=”120846″][quote comment=”120840″]
    Teebz, Your theory is flawed. If they wore them for 10-15 years, your right, they would have become accepted. But that doesn’t make them good.

    I worked retail for 5 years, made a good living, worked 80 pers week and I enjoyed it imensely while I was there. When I left, I earned the same, worked 40 hours a week and had a life.

    I never missed what I didn’t have (while working ensane hours) but the latter is certainly better.[/quote]

    Your argument has a fallacy. We’re comparing uniform popularity, not salary rates between jobs. There’s absolutely no relation there.

    My argument is this: if Houston wears those uniforms for one season, and people ridiculed the Astros for their uniform, why did they keep them?

    People all over North America ridiculed the Islanders, and they caved to the pressure. Had they kept wearing them, do you not think that more people would have bought the jersey?

    Hell, the Barney Rubble Hairpieces/Buffa-Slug jersey was one of the top selling jerseys this season. How many people on this board have one? My guess is not many with the amount of ridicule that we gave it. It was ridiculed on television, on radio, in the newspapers, and yet the Sabres continue to wear them. And people continue to buy them.[/quote]

    That brings up an interesting question that I wish I had the answer to (not being alive yet in the 70s, I am ill equipped to try to answer it anyway). What did people think of the Astros, Pirates, Padres, etc uniforms when they first came out?[/quote]

    Can’t speak for anyone else, but I thought the wild and crazy look was hideous from day 1 (by which I guess I mean the green-and-gold A’s, ca. 1965 or so). But then, I’ve always been conservative when it comes to baseball uniforms (if not politics). I didn’t like pullover jerseys, powder blue roadies, stretch waistbands instead of belts, or any other 70s uniform innovation either. I loved it when teams started going back to the traditional look in the 90s.

  • adr | July 17, 2007 at 6:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”120961″]Evidently a tweaked Ottawa Senators logo was leaked[/quote]

    Or I might be a little late to this party as that post was from last week.

    Sorry.

  • Perry | July 17, 2007 at 6:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”120899″]are these considered sheik or cool? i hope not[/quote]

    Link didn’t work. And the word you want is “chic,” which most sheiks definitely are not. :-)

  • Shaftman | July 17, 2007 at 6:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”120975″][quote comment=”120899″]are these considered sheik or cool? i hope not[/quote]

    Link didn’t work. And the word you want is “chic,” which most sheiks definitely are not. :-)[/quote]

    This sheik was. :-)

  • Jason G. | July 17, 2007 at 6:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

    Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in execution, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

    Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… Sorry about this.[/quote]

    OK, it’s kind of scary, but most of those look good. I don’t hate any of those.

  • Kris McInnis | July 17, 2007 at 6:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”120981″][quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

    Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in execution, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

    Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… Sorry about this.[/quote]

    OK, it’s kind of scary, but most of those look good. I don’t hate any of those.[/quote]

    Damnit…..!

  • Jason G. | July 17, 2007 at 6:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”120983″][quote comment=”120981″][quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

    Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in execution, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

    Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… Sorry about this.[/quote]

    OK, it’s kind of scary, but most of those look good. I don’t hate any of those.[/quote]

    Damnit…..![/quote]

    I’m not saying any team should switch to that, just that they don’t look bad.

  • simonsdaddy | July 17, 2007 at 6:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

    Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in execution, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

    Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… Sorry about this.[/quote]

    Yeah that A’s Logo is horrendous

  • Nick | July 17, 2007 at 7:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”120975″][quote comment=”120899″]are these considered sheik or cool? i hope not[/quote]

    Link didn’t work. And the word you want is “chic,” which most sheiks definitely are not. :-)[/quote]

    i posted the correct link

    comment 177

  • SWC Susan | July 17, 2007 at 7:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

    Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in execution, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

    Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… Sorry about this.[/quote]

    With the exception of the Astros and Diamondbacks, that freaking rocks! Go Tech!

  • Valjean | July 17, 2007 at 7:06 pm |

    OMG! You simply must go to the Astros Daily website, then click on “History” > “Astros Card Gallery” > “1975 – 1987″ > “1981 Tuscon (AAA)” – then be ready to scream (this is your only warning) ;o)

    thats not even the worst Toros jersey. Look at the middle of this page for the 1980 version!
    http://www.bigsoccer

    There goes my lunch … :-DDD Thanks.

    And on the player card page (http://www.astrosdai...
    +Other + Card Gallery + 1975(Topps), what’s the deal with Jose Cruz’s CAP LOGO? They all look somewhat different but his is just deranged

  • Nat | July 17, 2007 at 7:10 pm |

    say what you will, but i love the tequila sunrises
    Tequila!

    especially on that guy

  • Art | July 17, 2007 at 7:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”120710″][quote comment=”120692″][quote comment=”120608″][quote comment=”120606″][quote comment=”120597″]Texas A&M’s change from Nike to Adidas was covered awhile back, but according to this article Texas has also gone Adidas. Anyone seen if there will be any uni changes?

    http://chron.com/dis...

    They probably meant Kansas. No way Nike is letting go of the Longhorn cash cow.[/quote]

    Nike lost Michigan this year. Anything is possible.[/quote]

    Did Michigan go to Adidas?[/quote]

    Yes, Michigan dropped Nike and moved to Adidas joining Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Tennessee as the marquee schools[/quote]

    UCLA is also one of those marquee Adidas schools.

  • Dave A | July 17, 2007 at 7:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”120793″][quote comment=”120719″]I don’t get why they are calling Rich Harden a fuck up
    [/quote]

    You’d feel differently if he was supposed to be anchoring the pitching staff on your fantasy baseball team. I think I’ll change my team name to “Harden the Fuck Up” now.[/quote]

    You too, huh? At one point I had five players on the DL, including Harden, Roy Halladay and Brett Myers.

  • Cavan | July 17, 2007 at 8:18 pm |

    Don’t know if it’s been posted, but here is the 2008 NBA All Star logo

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Ken S. | July 17, 2007 at 8:23 pm |

    Looks like the ’Dome’s bases may originally have been trimmed in orange, too.

    Sorry if this has already been addressed, but I respectfully disagree about the bases trimmed in orange. That photo appears to have been taken at an All-Star game, with the bases and the field being decorated, probably in red , white and blue. That looks like Joe Morgan in a Reds uni facing the camera. Astros player is sansabelt, evoking the ’70’s. The field is grass. Judging by the chain link fence, my guess is Atlanta, 1972.

  • Matt | July 17, 2007 at 8:45 pm |

    Why do base coaches wear numbers under 60 in baseball? Much was made on the Cubs’ broadcast tonight about Mike Quade giving up his number 18 so that Jason Kendall could wear it. But if bullpen catchers are wearing numbers in the 50s and whatnot, why don’t base coaches do it too?

  • Kyle at IU | July 17, 2007 at 8:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”121032″]Why do base coaches wear numbers under 60 in baseball? Much was made on the Cubs’ broadcast tonight about Mike Quade giving up his number 18 so that Jason Kendall could wear it. But if bullpen catchers are wearing numbers in the 50s and whatnot, why don’t base coaches do it too?[/quote]

    My theory would be that since a lot of coaches were managers at a lower level or former players, they want to hold onto numbers that they previously wore. Like I said, just a theory.

  • Matthew S. | July 17, 2007 at 8:50 pm |

    In the Astros-Nationals game, Washington centerfielder Nook Logan had to stop play after a Chris Burke single because his belt had broken. They immediately threw the broken one in the dugout and handed him a new one, which he put on in the infield.

  • Dan Etna | July 17, 2007 at 9:09 pm |

    Hey Paul add Blue Jays pitcher Brandon League to baseball players who have to cover up their tatoos with long undersleeves.

  • Stuby | July 17, 2007 at 9:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

    Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in execution, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

    Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… Sorry about this.[/quote]
    Its actually quite an improvement for several teams. I’m talkin’ ’bout you, Tampa Bay and Colorado

  • Mike Engle | July 17, 2007 at 9:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”121050″][quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

    Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in execution, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

    Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… Sorry about this.[/quote]
    Its actually quite an improvement for several teams. I’m talkin’ ’bout you, Tampa Bay and Colorado[/quote]
    No thanks to New Era’s stupid fashion caps, the Yankees logo doesn’t seem so out of place. But it should.

  • daveo | July 17, 2007 at 9:41 pm |

    Stuart O’Grady’s source
    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Purple Brigade | July 17, 2007 at 9:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”120997″]say what you will, but i love the tequila sunrises
    Tequila!

    especially on that guy[/quote]

    Agreed. Regardless of the era and style, that guy threw gas. You could put him in a pink moomoo with purple dots and he’d still bring it. I love that era in baseball.

    Go A’s.

  • concealed78 | July 17, 2007 at 10:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

    The best one is the White Sox one. replacing silver with red would totally be key.

    Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in execution, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

    Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… Sorry about this.[/quote]

  • concealed78 | July 17, 2007 at 10:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”121078″][quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

    The best one is the White Sox one. replacing silver with red would totally be key.

    Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in execution, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

    Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… Sorry about this.[/quote][/quote]

    Opps. Meant to put this in the end, not the middle:

    The best one is the White Sox one. replacing silver with red would totally be key.

  • Mayer | July 18, 2007 at 1:15 am |

    The Galaxy began their game tonight in their old white uniforms but, in a scene reminiscent of Might Ducks 2, came out for the second half in their new dark uniforms.

  • dilbert719 | July 18, 2007 at 1:39 am |

    [quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

    Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in execution, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

    Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… Sorry about this.[/quote]

    I agree with the comments above. The A’s logo kills my eyes like dead, and so do the Tigers and Padres, and I don’t care for what happens to the Dodgers and Royals logos, but it’s a tremendous upgrade, IMO, for the Giants, Rockies, and (this might get some angry replies) Mets, and a really nice nod to the past for the White Sox. For everyone other than the above mentioned, it neither improves nor detracts.

  • Brendan | July 18, 2007 at 1:40 am |

    [quote comment=”121007″][quote comment=”120793″][quote comment=”120719″]I don’t get why they are calling Rich Harden a fuck up
    [/quote]

    You’d feel differently if he was supposed to be anchoring the pitching staff on your fantasy baseball team. I think I’ll change my team name to “Harden the Fuck Up” now.[/quote]

    You too, huh? At one point I had five players on the DL, including Harden, Roy Halladay and Brett Myers.[/quote]

    At least he’s not supposed to be anchoring your REAL baseball team. I know that Haren has more than compensated for that, but come on.

  • Brendan | July 18, 2007 at 1:47 am |

    Just received word that the San Jose Earthquakes will be returning for the 2008 season. No official word on whether they will be keeping the same logos and wordmarks, but smart money is that they will, or they will only make minor adjustments.

    And the (nearly baseless) rumor is that Google or Yahoo will be their jersey sponsors.

  • Bendert | July 18, 2007 at 1:55 am |

    I just played NCAA 08 from EA Sports and the jerseys look really good! I haven’t looked too closely on a team to team basis, other than Michigan State, but the details seem to be pretty well done. Player patches/equipment logos are clear and the cleats look amazing.

  • DW in Tampa Bay | July 18, 2007 at 2:19 am |

    [quote comment=”121024″]Looks like the ’Dome’s bases may originally have been trimmed in orange, too.

    Sorry if this has already been addressed, but I respectfully disagree about the bases trimmed in orange. That photo appears to have been taken at an All-Star game, with the bases and the field being decorated, probably in red , white and blue. That looks like Joe Morgan in a Reds uni facing the camera. Astros player is sansabelt, evoking the ’70’s. The field is grass. Judging by the chain link fence, my guess is Atlanta, 1972.[/quote]

    Post #112.

    That being Lee May at 1st base. The only year hee was an All-Star with Morgan at 2nd base.

  • Kris McInnis | July 18, 2007 at 4:15 am |

    [quote comment=”121120″][quote comment=”120968″][quote comment=”120691″]I think I like that Vancouver logo the best with the orange…..The Wild looks good, but the Blue Jackets’ is horrible…….and as much as I hate New York (sorry, Paul), the Rangers’ logo doesn’t look too bad either….Good job with the logos….you should try it with the other leagues![/quote]

    Hmm….maybe I really did go about this wrong. People are still actually finding some merit in my sarcasm. Oh well, at least one of them is in the ‘horrible’ column now. As for the other leagues, that’d probably be a little harder than making fun of the NHL. I’m not too big on the NBA trends. Also, despite a good few stumbles in execution, I’m of the opinion that the NFL does a decent job of keeping the team identities separate, for the most part.

    Then someone mentioned red in the MLB. So…yeah, umm… Sorry about this.[/quote]

    I agree with the comments above. The A’s logo kills my eyes like dead, and so do the Tigers and Padres, and I don’t care for what happens to the Dodgers and Royals logos, but it’s a tremendous upgrade, IMO, for the Giants, Rockies, and (this might get some angry replies) Mets, and a really nice nod to the past for the White Sox. For everyone other than the above mentioned, it neither improves nor detracts.[/quote]

    ‘Didn’t detract because half of the teams use red and blue, so the changes were minimal. But hell, just the overload of red and blue alone is as bad as making everything black and red. But, with this and the NHL thing too, it’s not really my goal to improve anything; just satirically show what can happen when a fad or a trend get taken to the extreme. So in some respects, I’d rather the logos look worse, yet it seems that some people actually like the changes I make…

  • ScottyJ in WV | July 18, 2007 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”120954″]am i the only one who kinda-sorta likes the fisherman logo? [/quote]

    Nope, I like it too. And I like the wave jersey. Very cool and distinctive.

  • Regg | July 18, 2007 at 4:58 pm |

    these make the Tequila Sunrises decent

  • jere | July 19, 2007 at 2:09 am |

    [quote comment=”121024″]Looks like the ’Dome’s bases may originally have been trimmed in orange, too.

    Sorry if this has already been addressed, but I respectfully disagree about the bases trimmed in orange. That photo appears to have been taken at an All-Star game, with the bases and the field being decorated, probably in red , white and blue. That looks like Joe Morgan in a Reds uni facing the camera. Astros player is sansabelt, evoking the ’70’s. The field is grass. Judging by the chain link fence, my guess is Atlanta, 1972.[/quote]

    The play is from the top of the third in the ’72 All-Star Game. It’s Bobby Murcer’s lineout. You can see Rod Carew off of first, getting doubled off as May makes the catch and touches first with his hand to end the inning. (As he runs off, you can see the scoreboard with “American” and “National” on it. From retrosheet:

    “Carew singled to center [Freehan scored]; Murcer lined into a double play (first unassisted) [Carew out at first];”

  • Timothy Hernandez | July 19, 2007 at 8:10 pm |

    CSC joins wristband-wagon
    Team CSC has joined the wristband bandwagon this year, but it sports an interesting slogan that isn’t raising money for a charity or some do-good organization.

    Instead, the letters across the black plastic wristband underscore the team’s philosophy in this year’s Tour: “Harden the Fuck Up.”

    “Stuart (O’Grady) brought them for the team in London and asked everyone to wear them,” said Team CSC rider Frank Schleck. “If it’s tough, we look at the wristband and we do what it says. When it gets hard, you harden up. So far it’s worked pretty good.”

    Well, we know now that those bands didn’t help Stuart O’Grady.