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Steve McQueen, Meet Brian Roberts

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Classic moment in Arlington on Saturday, as Brian Roberts’s cap briefly became the summer residence for a winged creature of some sort, occasioning mucho banter between Rangers broadasters Josh Lewin and Tom Grieve. Let’s listen in:

Josh Lewin: What’s he got on his hat? Butterfly?

Tom Grieve: Sure is.

JL: Wow. Now that’s gotta be good luck.

TG: That’s pretty good. That’s not a practical joke, either — that butterfly just landed there.

JL: Ol’ Butterfly-Head, Brian Roberts. [The butterfly beats its wings slightly, as if to acknowledge the broadcasters’ attention.]

TG: I wonder what’s on that hat, that lured the butterfly.

JL: Well, the oriole bird.

TG: Think that’s what it is?

JL: Sure. It’s mating season.

[Both men chuckle heartily, apparently amused by the thought of interspecies fornication.]

JL: We actually have a replay of the butterfly deciding that the hat of Brian Roberts is a good place to be. [Replay shows butterfly landing on Roberts’s left sleeve, then hovering near his head, and then finally alighting atop his cap.] Doink! Little does he know.

TG: We’ll see how long it stays there. [Desi Relaford strikes out. Roberts participates as the Orioles infield throws the ball around the horn, but the butterfly stays put.]

JL: I’m impressed by the staying power here, because Roberts is now moving around, he took that throw, threw the ball around the horn, and the butterfly is saying, “I’ve got the best seat in the house, I’m stayin’ right here.”

TG: You think he’s smiling because he knows it’s there?

JL: I can’t imagine he knows he’s got a butterfly on his head.

TG: Everybody else does! He’s the last one to know.

JL: You wanna go down and tell him?

TG: I just wanna see what happens when he runs off the field. I wanna see if it stays there.

JL: Maybe it’ll be like the old days when you’d leave your glove and the guy on the other team would come out and use it. So Relaford will be wearing the butterfly next. Think it’s a monarch butterfly?

TG: No.

JL: No? That would be black and orange, same as the Oriole.

TG [getting all lepidopterological on us]: Uhhhhhh, I don’t think that’s a monarch. Whatever it is, though, it’s happy on that hat.

JL: Probably eatin’ its way right through the hat.

TG: Maybe it’s not a butterfly, maybe it’s a moth.

JL: Could be a moth!

TG [getting a little carried away]: Maybe it’s Mothra. [Camera shows that the butterfly/moth is still there.] That’s great.

JL [remembering that there’s a baseball game taking place]: Kinda speaks to the fact that there’s not a lot going on when the Rangers are up at bat here.

TG: Bedard’s taken care of that — he’s struck out six of the last eight hitters. [Camera once again shows Roberts’s insect-clad cap.]

JL: The butterfly perseveres. La papillon. Or again, it could be a moth, and that’s a lot less romantic and all. Something just really poetic about a butterfly swooping down, but I do believe, upon further review, that’s just a really ugly moth. [Whatever it is, it suddenly flies away.] Ooooh, I jinxed it! I think I insulted him! Well, it was fun while it lasted. Got a good nine pitches out of that.

And one blog entry. Incidentally, I see that Grieve was wearing a sheriff’s badge at the beginning of the broadcast. Is that part of his regular shtick?

(Special thanks to Brad Holmes for bringing this episode to my attention.)

Tech Question: For sequences like the above, it’s fine for me to make screen grabs and transcribe the audio, but it would be even better if I could upload the appropriate video segment to YouTube, so you all could get the full effect. I don’t know how to capture just a portion of a video file, however (plus there are copyright issues, natch, but at the moment I’m more concerned with the technical logistics). If you know how to do this and are willing to explain it to me, please get in touch.

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Membership Update: I mailed out two dozen more membership kits over the weekend and have once again caught up with Scott — if your card is shown in the card design gallery and linked on the active roster, then it’s either in your hands by now or on its way in the mail. If your card hasn’t yet been designed, it should be showing up in the gallery later this week.

In case you missed the announcement a few days ago, we’re now offering NBA designs. And remember, everyone who joins by the end of this month will have a special “Charter Member” seal added to their membership cards when they renew next year.

St. Loooooie Party Reminder: I’ll be hanging out tomorrow night at McGurks, so come on down and say hi. I expect to arrive around 8 p.m.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Full listing of Premier League kits here (with thanks to Michael Dove). … Yikes — Hank Aaron was a smoker! … Here are the new Rugby World Cup jerseys for Australia, Scotland, and Ireland. “Canterbury [the New Zealand company that manufactured these look-alikes] is the new Nike,” says Ross Lake. “Such a pity.” … Reprinted from Saturday’s comments: The All-Star Game cap patches are really friggin’ big. … 7/7/07 brought lots of numerologically themed articles, including this, this, and this (with thanks to Brian Nelson and Harvey Lee). … Jon Eisen has come up with the uniform cameo of all time: Babe Ruth as a New York Giant. The story, as stated in the caption: “New York Yankees outfielder Babe Ruth, in a Giants uniform, with Giants manager John McGraw at an exhibition game with the Baltimore Orioles on October 3, 1923, at the Polo Grounds. Ruth played in the Giants outfield for the game, which was a benefit.” … Uniform numbers for the Islanders’ new players have been announced (with thanks to Matt Brosseau). … Twins backup backstop Mike Redmond took some stitches in his scalp on Friday, forcing Joe Mauer to play both ends of a doubleheader. Mauer really needed a rest on Saturday, so, according to this article, “About 17 hours after having his scalp knitted, Redmond stuck extra padding in his helmet, borrowed a skull cap from the White Sox, blacked out the Sox logo and caught nine innings while becoming the first Twin in memory to wear a do-rag” (nice find by Matt Nelson). … Good spot by Chris Allen, who notes that Reebok used essentially the same design templates for its NFL and NHL draft caps. … Sunday’s New York Times account of the Jose Padilla trial included this tidbit regarding the jury: “Several times now, the five women and seven men have shown up in color-coordinated outfits. One day, the men dressed in blue and the women in pink. On July 3, the first row wore red, the second white, and the third blue, leading bloggers to wonder whether they were worrisomely frivolous or unified — or so patriotic as to condemn all accused terrorists.” … Good Tour de France report from Michael Rich, who writes: “Normally the defending champ wears No. 1 the next year (or, if the defending champ is not racing, the honor of wearing No. 1 falls on another rider on the same team, or the best finisher from the previous year who is competing). This year, with no Floyd Landis and no Phonak team, the honor would normally fall on Oscar Pereiro (Caisse D’Epargne). However, with this last year’s result still being contested, the Versus commentators said that no one was given No. 1 this year. The highest number was given to Pereiro, but that was No. 11. Since teams area all given numbers in the same decade as the team leader, this means no one was given Nos. 1 through 9 (since there are nine riders per team, the numbers ending in zero are never given out).”

 
  
 
Comments (191)

    [quote comment=”115692″]Why are people saying Timlin is altering the uniform?

    First of all if it’s a camo undershirt, it’s not likely to be that visible.[/quote]

    Camo undershirt not likely to be that visable, ba dum bum! (or rimshot/drumroll, you know what I’m getting at.)

    Speaking of the number 7 on 7-7-07, This coincidece took place. In the Pepsi 400, Clint Bowyer Drove the 07 car to a 7th place finish on 7-7-07.

    Paul,
    I use quicktime to shorten videos. It is really easy – you just place the playhead at the start and finish and “trim to selection”

    I used i-movie and quicktime to make link

    Sorry I didn’t focus on the Uniforms as much as I should have…

    I actually forgot the McGurk’s meet here in StL was tomorrow night! I hope to still make it out, but with other obligations, I don’t think I can…damn-it…

    Brazil is mixing and matching unis in its senior and youth soccer squads

    The senior team started the Copa America in link vs Mexico and lost. Then they switched to link (usually worn with the link) vs Chile and won. And in the 1/4finals rematch vs chile, they stuck with link and advanced.

    U20 World Cup: opposite story. 1st game vs link they wore white shorts, and lost. 2nd game went back to link and got their mojo back vs S. Korea. But they blue didn’t work a second time and link they had a losing effort vs USA.

    I’ve seen photos of Aaron smoking before, but they were all from the 60’s time frame, back when lots of players smoked…this is as best that I can remember! Note the road unis the Braves wore in the late 60’s – very early 70’s. Did Mantle not also smoke?

    [quote comment=”115777″]Paul,
    I use quicktime to shorten videos. It is really easy – you just place the playhead at the start and finish and “trim to selection”

    I used i-movie and quicktime to make link

    Sorry I didn’t focus on the Uniforms as much as I should have…[/quote]

    I think what he is getting at is how to get it from your TV to your computer…once it’s on his computer I’m sure he can figure it out from there.

    Paul, if you get a chance when in St Louis, check out the gorgeous baseball warm-up sweaters from the ’20s at the St Louis Cardinals Hall of Fame Museum/International Bowling Museum. I’ve been tempted to commission a friend who creates knitting patterns to reproduce one.

    [quote comment=”115788″]Sorry. ‘link.[/quote]

    The comedians on this site are on a roll today. I especially like the running villagers. How long does it take to put something like that together? Keep up the good work.

    [quote comment=”115797″][quote comment=”115777″]Paul,
    I use quicktime to shorten videos. It is really easy – you just place the playhead at the start and finish and “trim to selection”

    I used i-movie and quicktime to make link

    Sorry I didn’t focus on the Uniforms as much as I should have…[/quote]

    I think what he is getting at is how to get it from your TV to your computer…once it’s on his computer I’m sure he can figure it out from there.[/quote]

    No, actually, I don’t know what to do. I have MLB.TV, which means I have access to game video on my computer. But if I wanted to capture just a portion or snippet of video (like the Roberts/butterfly sequence), that’s what I don’t know how to do.

    going back to yesterdays post on the phillies and their assistance with the colorado grounds crew to get the tarp situated…

    in all the footage ive seen, i saw only phillies (save latroy hawkins) rush to the aid of the crew.

    a visual of the dugout at the time of the wind/rainstorm showed virtually all uniformed personell immediately jump out of the dugout with the utmost concern for the safety of that staff, and without regard for themselves.

    even after it was under control and a full field shot was shown, i still saw not 1 rockie leaving the field as though they helped.

    where was this team… the home team?

    looked as though they were absent when their staff needed them most.

    now i understand that neither the rockies nor the phillies have any obligation whatsoever to help in a situation like this, but jeez colorado, help out the guys who maintain your work space, the guys who keep it safe with cut grass and diamond dry. the guys who dont bat an eye to cover your field when there is a downpour.

    i live an hour from philly, and im not really a phillies fan, but seeing the reigning mvp and past and current all stars help out their host made me one yesterday.

    but where were you colorado rockies?

    Its not technically uni-related, and quite un-PC… but I’d love to see some photos of baseball players (or any athletes) smoking.

    I know Dick Allen of the White Sox was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (in uniform, in the dugout!) smoking.

    You just never, ever see it today (and most of them don’t smoke, I am sure).

    However, some players still do (Mark Grace did all his career, I hear). And with a 2.5+ hour game, you know they have to go back and suck a butt once and awhile each game.

    [quote comment=”115807″]going back to yesterdays post on the phillies and their assistance with the colorado grounds crew to get the tarp situated…

    in all the footage ive seen, i saw only phillies (save latroy hawkins) rush to the aid of the crew.

    a visual of the dugout at the time of the wind/rainstorm showed virtually all uniformed personell immediately jump out of the dugout with the utmost concern for the safety of that staff, and without regard for themselves.

    even after it was under control and a full field shot was shown, i still saw not 1 rockie leaving the field as though they helped.

    where was this team… the home team?

    looked as though they were absent when their staff needed them most.

    now i understand that neither the rockies nor the phillies have any obligation whatsoever to help in a situation like this, but jeez colorado, help out the guys who maintain your work space, the guys who keep it safe with cut grass and diamond dry. the guys who dont bat an eye to cover your field when there is a downpour.

    i live an hour from philly, and im not really a phillies fan, but seeing the reigning mvp and past and current all stars help out their host made me one yesterday.

    but where were you colorado rockies?[/quote]

    According to the article I read, the Rockies were already in the clubhouse; the one Rockie who was still in the dugout did run out to help

    [quote comment=”115797″][quote comment=”115777″]Paul,
    I use quicktime to shorten videos. It is really easy – you just place the playhead at the start and finish and “trim to selection”

    I used i-movie and quicktime to make link

    Sorry I didn’t focus on the Uniforms as much as I should have…[/quote]

    I think what he is getting at is how to get it from your TV to your computer…once it’s on his computer I’m sure he can figure it out from there.[/quote]
    the best way to get it from your tv to your computer is using tivo because you can transfer the file. or you can use something like this which will record tv directly to your computer

    [quote comment=”115809″]I know Dick Allen of the White Sox was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (in uniform, in the dugout!) smoking.[/quote]

    A truly link, for many reasons.

    I’m sure this is uni-related, but not sure how at the moment.

    The first DVD of the classic Home Run Derby tv show comes out tomorrow.

    [quote comment=”115802″][quote comment=”115788″]Sorry. ‘link.[/quote]

    The comedians on this site are on a roll today. I especially like the running villagers. How long does it take to put something like that together? Keep up the good work.[/quote]

    Not villagers – those are the miniature twin princesses who summon Mothra from Mothra Island.

    [quote comment=”115813″][quote comment=”115809″]I know Dick Allen of the White Sox was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (in uniform, in the dugout!) smoking.[/quote]

    A truly link, for many reasons.[/quote]

    I really liked the way the pre-earflap helmets fit the players’ heads, and this SI cover of Dick Allen shows it perfectly. The earflap helmets, while no doubt safer, look so dorky.

    Don’t know if anybody else is having problems, but is the Dressed To the Nines pages down?

    I keep getting this error: “Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error ‘80004005’”

    [quote comment=”115802″][quote comment=”115788″]Sorry. ‘link.[/quote]

    The comedians on this site are on a roll today. I especially like the running villagers. How long does it take to put something like that together? Keep up the good work.[/quote]

    Only as long as it takes until I have to stop myself and say “Wow, that’s too absurd.” So yeah, ‘takes a pretty long time…

    But to really answer the question, just long enough to find the right images and put them together. I had that done rough 15 or so minutes after reading. Simple stuff.

    [quote comment=”115815″]I’m sure this is uni-related, but not sure how at the moment.

    The first DVD of the classic Home Run Derby tv show comes out tomorrow.[/quote]

    3 words umpire art pascarella…

    Paul,

    If you have a Mac, try Display Eater:

    link

    It lets you select and area of your screen to capture video. So just pick the area where the video is playing.

    [quote comment=”115832″]Paul,

    If you have a Mac, try Display Eater:

    link

    It lets you select and area of your screen to capture video. So just pick the area where the video is playing.[/quote]

    I’m not going to be of much specific help, but I believe this route is the only way to go with highly protected movies.

    The PC has a ton of screen capture software. I’ve tried a lot and most of them suck. You just have to try them all and see what works best for your system.

    Go to download.com and look for “screen cature” or “screen grab”. Make sure it does video. Then just play with it.

    Why was there all the complaining yesterday about uniforms being “uniform”? Doesn’t a majority of the people on this site praise players who wear stirrups? Not every baseball player wears stirrups, so that isn’t 100% “uniform”.

    [quote comment=”115825″]Don’t know if anybody else is having problems, but is the Dressed To the Nines pages down?

    I keep getting this error: “Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error ‘80004005’”[/quote]

    Link changed:

    link

    [quote comment=”115840″]Why was there all the complaining yesterday about uniforms being “uniform”? Doesn’t a majority of the people on this site praise players who wear stirrups? Not every baseball player wears stirrups, so that isn’t 100% “uniform”.[/quote]

    It SHOULD BE uniform!

    [quote comment=”115813″][quote comment=”115809″]I know Dick Allen of the White Sox was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (in uniform, in the dugout!) smoking.[/quote]

    A truly link, for many reasons.[/quote]

    He was quoted as being very embarassed by being caught smoking on a magazine that kids may see.

    The juggling? Well, that’s a different story.

    The whole talk yesterday was about the camo glove though. But the glove is not really part of the uniform. But people that are saying his goes against the uniformity, they will have a tough time finding ball players with the same gloves. Each has their own little touch they want with their gloves that are comfortable to them(i.e. color, webbing, finger hole, finger cover.)

    That’s the link I tried for ‘Nines’ and I still get that error – in both FireFox and Safari. It used to work.

    Long time reader of the site, but first time making a comment. I saw the picture of the All-Star game hat and it just so happens to be my beloved Oakland A’s. The cap immediately struck me as odd since the game is in S.F and thus a road game for the A.L. The A’s wear an all green cap on the road. The cap in the picture is the home cap. Is this an error by New Era, or done intentionally?

    [quote comment=”115841″][quote comment=”115825″]Don’t know if anybody else is having problems, but is the Dressed To the Nines pages down?

    I keep getting this error: “Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error ‘80004005’”[/quote]

    Link changed:

    link

    The new site is jacked up. The home page comes up but try looking up a teams jersey and you get the error message. Bummer!

    [quote comment=”115846″]The whole talk yesterday was about the camo glove though.[/quote]

    It’s not just camo, but also things like Roger Clemens’ silly patches on his glove, or players writing things on the sides of their caps.

    Bottom line, it’s about a player wanting to put his personal stamp on the uniform, or make a political statement, which some of us oppose no matter how much we might agree with the nature of the statement itself.

    link is a great piece of software for saving pictures (in a plethora of formats). You can hold Ctrl and hit PrtSc to copy the active window to the clipboard, then paste it into IrfanView. Then you can cut, crop, whatever the pic. This is of course a PC thing, not valid on Macs. And I think I read somewhere that mlb.tv won’t let you do screen grabs but I don’t have it and have never tried it.

    Am I the only one who thinks the NHL draft caps shouldn’t be baseball caps but should be toques?

    *shrug*

    [quote comment=”115853″]Am I the only one who thinks the NHL draft caps shouldn’t be baseball caps but should be toques?

    *shrug*[/quote]
    I never thought about that, but I agree.

    This isn’t uni-related at all, but I was wondering if anyone knew when the NHL schedule for next season is gonna be released…

    [quote comment=”115854″][quote comment=”115853″]Am I the only one who thinks the NHL draft caps shouldn’t be baseball caps but should be toques?

    *shrug*[/quote]
    I never thought about that, but I agree.[/quote]

    If you don’t know what a “Toque” is, don’t look it up on Google Images. Not only is it NSFW, but it’s a rather disturbing image as well. Don’t say that I didn’t warn you.

    Finally got my Old Timers Day pictures off of my camera. And yes, as it was mentioned in yesterday’s comments, link was the only one in stirrups. Although there were a link sporting the link.

    The rest of the grainy, somewhat blurry gallery link.

    The uniform related moment from Sunday’s Phils/Rockies game was that Jimmy Rollins decided to wear his socks pulled up:

    link

    He usually does not:

    link

    No one asked about this (that I’ve read today). I wondered if he was going for a throwback look while the Phils were facing 10,000 for the first time.

    [quote comment=”115807″]going back to yesterdays post on the phillies and their assistance with the colorado grounds crew to get the tarp situated…

    in all the footage ive seen, i saw only phillies (save latroy hawkins) rush to the aid of the crew.

    a visual of the dugout at the time of the wind/rainstorm showed virtually all uniformed personell immediately jump out of the dugout with the utmost concern for the safety of that staff, and without regard for themselves.

    even after it was under control and a full field shot was shown, i still saw not 1 rockie leaving the field as though they helped.

    where was this team… the home team?

    looked as though they were absent when their staff needed them most.

    now i understand that neither the rockies nor the phillies have any obligation whatsoever to help in a situation like this, but jeez colorado, help out the guys who maintain your work space, the guys who keep it safe with cut grass and diamond dry. the guys who dont bat an eye to cover your field when there is a downpour.

    i live an hour from philly, and im not really a phillies fan, but seeing the reigning mvp and past and current all stars help out their host made me one yesterday.

    but where were you colorado rockies?[/quote]

    In the interest of truth and integrity, I’ll point out that Baseball Tonight showed that there was footage of help from at least one Rockie: LaTroy Hawkins.

    [quote comment=”115863″]The uniform related moment from Sunday’s Phils/Rockies game was that Jimmy Rollins decided to wear his socks pulled up:

    link

    He usually does not:

    link

    No one asked about this (that I’ve read today). I wondered if he was going for a throwback look while the Phils were facing 10,000 for the first time.[/quote]
    The Rox’ announcers mentioned it during the first at-bat. They speculated that he was trying to break the team’s losing streak.

    Major credit to the Phils who helped out the grounds crew. The story is that the Rox (except Hawkins) had gone to the clubhouse before the wind picked up. That makes sense as the wind was blowing mainly toward the home dugout.

    As everyone knows, I’m a hockey guy. However, after watching the Jays and Indians yesterday, Reed Johnson is my current favorite player in the Bigs. Why?

    link which is always worn properly by Mr. Johnson.

    The guy is Mr. Charlie Hustle too. He plays the game like it’s the only thing that matters, and the stirrups are, in my opinion, better than Cruz Jr.’s look.

    Sorry, Paul. I know you love Cruz and his stirrups, but Johnson’s look has grown on me.

    when players show sock, be it stirrups or full color socks, why is it always said that they are “wearing their socks high”?

    arent they really wearing their pants high?

    [quote comment=”115872″]when players show sock, be it stirrups or full color socks, why is it always said that they are “wearing their socks high”?

    arent they really wearing their pants high?[/quote]

    Probably. I’ve never been known for my command of the English language. But then again, when I hear of someone wearing their pants high I think of grandpa with his belt around his chest.

    [quote comment=”115843″][quote comment=”115840″]Why was there all the complaining yesterday about uniforms being “uniform”? Doesn’t a majority of the people on this site praise players who wear stirrups? Not every baseball player wears stirrups, so that isn’t 100% “uniform”.[/quote]

    It SHOULD BE uniform![/quote]

    So then there should be no t-shirts, long socks, headbands, or wristbands in basketball unless everyone wears them…or no spatted ankles, visors, or armbands in football unless everyone wears them as well?

    In Hank Aaron’s book “I Had a Hammer” he talks about sneaking into the tunnel between innings to catch a smoke as a way of relieving the tension of the home run chase.

    [quote comment=”115860″][quote comment=”115854″][quote comment=”115853″]Am I the only one who thinks the NHL draft caps shouldn’t be baseball caps but should be toques?

    *shrug*[/quote]
    I never thought about that, but I agree.[/quote]

    If you don’t know what a “Toque” is, don’t look it up on Google Images. Not only is it NSFW, but it’s a rather disturbing image as well. Don’t say that I didn’t warn you.[/quote]

    not sure what you mean, but i did find link

    [quote comment=”115868″][quote comment=”115863″]The uniform related moment from Sunday’s Phils/Rockies game was that Jimmy Rollins decided to wear his socks pulled up:

    link

    He usually does not:

    link

    No one asked about this (that I’ve read today). I wondered if he was going for a throwback look while the Phils were facing 10,000 for the first time.[/quote]
    The Rox’ announcers mentioned it during the first at-bat. They speculated that he was trying to break the team’s losing streak.

    Major credit to the Phils who helped out the grounds crew. The story is that the Rox (except Hawkins) had gone to the clubhouse before the wind picked up. That makes sense as the wind was blowing mainly toward the home dugout.[/quote]

    And the home crowd, as pointed out by Basball Tonight, gave the Phillies a standing ovation as they left the field for the clubhouse to sit out the rain delay.

    This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.

    Butterfly – I think it was about 2 weeks ago, during an Astros game where a butterfly landed on the pitcher just like this. The announcer said the same thing, “That must be lucky.” The pitcher then proceeded to give up a HR. I want to say it was in the Brewers series.

    Yankee question – yesterday’s picture of the Yankee Old Timer game, combined with some external forces (the movie Major League), got me wondering – what movie has the worst “factual portrail” of the Yankees? Major League is bad because every Yankee has facial hair. Are their worse?

    when players show sock, be it stirrups or full color socks, why is it always said that they are “wearing their socks high”?

    arent they really wearing their pants high?

    A few weeks ago I posted a comment on the Marlins’ radio announcers making this exact point. As they said, the players always wear their socks up. Whether you can see the socks depends on whether they are wearing their pants up.

    [quote comment=”115882″]when players show sock, be it stirrups or full color socks, why is it always said that they are “wearing their socks high”?

    arent they really wearing their pants high?

    A few weeks ago I posted a comment on the Marlins’ radio announcers making this exact point. As they said, the players always wear their socks up. Whether you can see the socks depends on whether they are wearing their pants up.[/quote]

    exactly seth,
    if today during the afternoon i wear the bottom of my slacks at my knees, no one in my office would ask me why i am wearing my socks high, they would ask why im wearing my pants high… and then they would point and laugh at me.

    [quote comment=”115879″]This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.[/quote]

    Mark Buehrle used to be known for sliding on tarps during rain delays, until the White Sox put a stop to it a few years ago citing injury concerns.

    [quote comment=”115873″][quote comment=”115872″]when players show sock, be it stirrups or full color socks, why is it always said that they are “wearing their socks high”?

    arent they really wearing their pants high?[/quote]

    Probably. I’ve never been known for my command of the English language. But then again, when I hear of someone wearing their pants high I think of grandpa with his belt around his chest.[/quote]

    I’ve always preferred the term “high cuffed”. Leaves no room for confusion.

    Check out the catcher’s mask from this circa 1900 baseball button:

    link

    Not the best protection for the nose!

    [quote comment=”115885″][quote comment=”115879″]This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.[/quote]

    Mark Buehrle used to be known for sliding on tarps during rain delays, until the White Sox put a stop to it a few years ago citing injury concerns.[/quote]

    But NO ONE beats Rick Dempsey, the original!

    [quote comment=”115890″][quote comment=”115885″][quote comment=”115879″]This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.[/quote]

    Mark Buehrle used to be known for sliding on tarps during rain delays, until the White Sox put a stop to it a few years ago citing injury concerns.[/quote]

    But NO ONE beats Rick Dempsey, the original![/quote]
    I remember NHL Hall of Famer Brian Trottier sliding on the tarp with the Stanley Cup at a Pirates game seen link.

    [quote comment=”115767″]For the link.[/quote]

    EXCELLENT!! I would have joined the first day, except for the stupid “no purple” rule. My favorite team is the Cardinals, so it doesn’t affect me directly (although the Rockies are my emergency backup team), but the exclusion of purple teams really bugs me, so I decided not to join at all until the fans of purple teams can get their Vikings, Ravens, Lakers, Suns, or Rockies cards. I know, I know, this whole thing is Paul’s baby and he can do what he wants, but I find the purple exclusion kind of petty and childish, frankly. Like any other form of discrimination — racial, gender, sexual orientation — only writ really, really, really small.

    [quote comment=”115890″][quote comment=”115885″][quote comment=”115879″]This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.[/quote]

    Mark Buehrle used to be known for sliding on tarps during rain delays, until the White Sox put a stop to it a few years ago citing injury concerns.[/quote]

    But NO ONE beats Rick Dempsey, the original![/quote]

    absolutely… none better…

    great youtube from yesterday in colorado…
    link

    [quote comment=”115893″][quote comment=”115767″]For the link.[/quote]

    EXCELLENT!! I would have joined the first day, except for the stupid “no purple” rule. My favorite team is the Cardinals, so it doesn’t affect me directly (although the Rockies are my emergency backup team), but the exclusion of purple teams really bugs me, so I decided not to join at all until the fans of purple teams can get their Vikings, Ravens, Lakers, Suns, or Rockies cards. I know, I know, this whole thing is Paul’s baby and he can do what he wants, but I find the purple exclusion kind of petty and childish, frankly. Like any other form of discrimination — racial, gender, sexual orientation — only writ really, really, really small.[/quote]

    I swear, if I went along with the purple thing, there would no doubt be people accusing me of selling out my aesthetic princples just to get my hands on more membership $$$. Can’t please everyone…

    Anyway: Sorry, but the no-purple rule still holds. Please, it’s not discriminating against anyone; it’s just discriminating against a color. Equating it with homophobia or bigotry is not only way out of line but also diminishes the genuine harm that comes from real forms of discrimination.

    Anyone is welcome to join. I’m simply not willing to print my logo and sign my name on something that’s purple. Simple as that. If you think that’s arbitrary or silly, I think we can both live with that and agree to disagree.

    [quote comment=”115894″][quote comment=”115890″][quote comment=”115885″][quote comment=”115879″]This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.[/quote]

    Mark Buehrle used to be known for sliding on tarps during rain delays, until the White Sox put a stop to it a few years ago citing injury concerns.[/quote]

    But NO ONE beats Rick Dempsey, the original![/quote]

    absolutely… none better…

    great youtube from yesterday in colorado…
    link

    I think even saw a couple umpires helping out. Let’s not forget to credit the blue.

    George Hendrick has been credited as the first long-panted major leaguer. See paragraph 17 link.

    And I kinda like Milton Bradley’s white sunglasses. You can sorta see them link.

    “Ruslan Fedotenko – Tank wanted 17, but Shawn Bates owns it. He asked if 19 and 22 were available – hey, he’s from Kiev – and those jersey numbers are not…”

    He may be from the Ukraine, but dude… look up to the rafters!

    for what people on here refer to as “the pajama pant”, which i see as baggy long pants, im not sure who brought that into chic…

    however hendrick did have a long inseam way back as far as 25 yrs ago…
    link

    link

    link

    link

    and lets not forget the “clemson cut” also brought to the baseball landscape many years ago (at least 25) seen here on jimmy key…
    link

    link

    Thanks for all the info. You can always count on Rick Sutcliffe for a good quote.

    [quote comment=”115813″][quote comment=”115809″]I know Dick Allen of the White Sox was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (in uniform, in the dugout!) smoking.[/quote]

    A truly link, for many reasons.[/quote]

    Who’s that guy in the foreground wearing anumber in the 60s? The 1972 White Sox link. I wonder if he’s a staffer or BP pitcher or something — when did teams start giving those guys numbers?

    [quote comment=”115899″][quote comment=”115894″][quote comment=”115890″][quote comment=”115885″][quote comment=”115879″]This made me think of on field, rain delay antics (which could be an article in itself). Several years ago, when Mike Piazza was with the Mets, I seem to recall Robin Ventura putting on a Piazza jersey during a rain delay, putting padding underneath it to make himself look bigger, and then going out onto the rain soaked tarp and proceeded to take an at bat from an imaginary pitcher. He then rounded the bases and slid into every one, causing a huge wave of water to fly all over the place.[/quote]

    Mark Buehrle used to be known for sliding on tarps during rain delays, until the White Sox put a stop to it a few years ago citing injury concerns.[/quote]

    But NO ONE beats Rick Dempsey, the original![/quote]

    absolutely… none better…

    great youtube from yesterday in colorado…
    link

    I think even saw a couple umpires helping out. Let’s not forget to credit the blue.[/quote]

    link is a clip that doesn’t look like it was broadcast in the 40s. You can clearly see the umps in this one.

    George Hendrick pioneered the long pants look, and Ron Darling kept it going thereafter, and it picked up steam as time passed. I didn’t mind the long pants, though I preferred it when players showed their socks.

    I don’t know who first began wearing pajama pants, but I remember Derek Bell going with this look big time. I assign a substantial amount of blame for this travesty to Jeff Bagwell, as I think that he was the first superstar to start wearing his pants about eight sizes too big and too long.

    Sorry to be a peadant

    The highest number was given to Pereiro, but that was No. 11.

    Shouldn’t that be lowest?

    [quote comment=”115915″]Sorry to be a peadant

    The highest number was given to Pereiro, but that was No. 11.

    Shouldn’t that be lowest?[/quote]

    And that should be pedant.

    Oh, the irony!

    [quote comment=”115914″]George Hendrick pioneered the long pants look, and Ron Darling kept it going thereafter, and it picked up steam as time passed. I didn’t mind the long pants, though I preferred it when players showed their socks.

    I don’t know who first began wearing pajama pants, but I remember Derek Bell going with this look big time. I assign a substantial amount of blame for this travesty to Jeff Bagwell, as I think that he was the first superstar to start wearing his pants about eight sizes too big and too long.[/quote]

    Bagwell may well be very guilty, but it was largely for function over form. He wore his pants looser than most because of his wide legged, low crouch, batting stance: link

    i remember many years ago (especially with yanks trainer steve donohue) that team trainers wore a standard trousers version of the regular baseball pant. perhaps this is where is derived from…

    Scott Erickson, then with the Twins, made the solid color sock look cool. THAT was the death knell for the stirrup as we love it.

    My wife and I were inaugural season ticket holders for the Fresno Grizzlies (AAA-Giants).
    We continued to purchase season tickets for 8 years.
    Then the team hired a new GM.
    His first mandate?
    The Fresno Bee quoted the new GM as saying “Real baseball fans don’t wear puple.”, and he changed the team colors to green and brown.
    Hideous.
    Haven’t been back to a game since.

    While searching for something else, found this picture of Hank Aaron I’d never seen before.

    link

    It’s interesting how the trim lining on the belt loop goes into the lining going down the pants leg. Don’t think I’ve seen that before.

    Although the stirrups and high socks look much better I can understand wearing the pants low for function. Even in little league sliding into home (pants not full of foam sorry!) or any other base and messing up your socks. Also the stirrups bottom would off slip out from under my foot and hang lose outside the back of my shoe.

    ok don’t get eaten this time

    The link continue to wear that style, just as they did in the days of Aaron.

    (please don’t get eaten)

    ok, Matt S. I tried to link to a picture but my posts just kept getting eaten, but the braves still wear that style of trim.

    [quote comment=”115920″][quote comment=”115914″]George Hendrick pioneered the long pants look, and Ron Darling kept it going thereafter, and it picked up steam as time passed. I didn’t mind the long pants, though I preferred it when players showed their socks.

    I don’t know who first began wearing pajama pants, but I remember Derek Bell going with this look big time. I assign a substantial amount of blame for this travesty to Jeff Bagwell, as I think that he was the first superstar to start wearing his pants about eight sizes too big and too long.[/quote]

    Bagwell may well be very guilty, but it was largely for function over form. He wore his pants looser than most because of his wide legged, low crouch, batting stance: link

    You may be onto something there. It took several years into Bagwell’s career before he went baggy-crazy, though.

    link

    And extra crotch roominess wouldn’t explain having pants that were floppy-baggy below the knew and having pants that reached the ground.

    [quote comment=”115809″]Its not technically uni-related, and quite un-PC… but I’d love to see some photos of baseball players (or any athletes) smoking.

    I know Dick Allen of the White Sox was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (in uniform, in the dugout!) smoking.

    You just never, ever see it today (and most of them don’t smoke, I am sure).

    However, some players still do (Mark Grace did all his career, I hear). And with a 2.5+ hour game, you know they have to go back and suck a butt once and awhile each game.[/quote]

    Fox Sports Detroit has a scout look in the dugout to see if Jim Leyland has a ciggy lit every time they want to show him. If the skipper has one lit up, they wait.

    [quote comment=”115923″]Scott Erickson, then with the Twins, made the solid color sock look cool. THAT was the death knell for the stirrup as we love it.[/quote]

    It was curious that just as the vast majority of players were wearing their pants at the ankles and completely hiding their socks, Erickson pulled his up just enough to show the solid color sock.

    Back in the day, I remember reading why Erickson wore his pants and socks in this manner, but for the life of me I can no longer remember the explanation.

    [quote comment=”115936″]ok, Matt S. I tried to link to a picture but my posts just kept getting eaten, but the braves still wear that style of trim.[/quote]

    although there seems to be a small space between the belt and the leg piping (on the current pants). Is this what you meant was different?

    [quote comment=”115804″][quote comment=”115797″][quote comment=”115777″]Paul,
    I use quicktime to shorten videos. It is really easy – you just place the playhead at the start and finish and “trim to selection”

    I used i-movie and quicktime to make link

    Sorry I didn’t focus on the Uniforms as much as I should have…[/quote]

    I think what he is getting at is how to get it from your TV to your computer…once it’s on his computer I’m sure he can figure it out from there.[/quote]

    No, actually, I don’t know what to do. I have MLB.TV, which means I have access to game video on my computer. But if I wanted to capture just a portion or snippet of video (like the Roberts/butterfly sequence), that’s what I don’t know how to do.[/quote]

    MLB.TV deposits .dat files into your Temporary Internet files that you can get at, convert, and edit. On a Windows machine, you’ll find those files here – C:\Documents and Settings\username\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files – where “username” is the name of your user profile.

    You may need to display hidden files and folders if you can’t see one of the folders along the way (Tools > Folder Options > View > Show Hidden Files and Folders). Once you’ve browsed to that location, make sure to go to View > Details then sort by Last Accessed – you’ll see an abbreviated name for the clip. Here, you can double-click to play directly in media player or your editing software, or you may need to find a program that can convert DAT to AVI or MPEG, then you can cut it down.

    Knowing MLB though, if they catch wind of it, they’ll probably make you take it down.

    [quote comment=”115941″][quote comment=”115936″]ok, Matt S. I tried to link to a picture but my posts just kept getting eaten, but the braves still wear that style of trim.[/quote]

    although there seems to be a small space between the belt and the leg piping (on the current pants). Is this what you meant was different?[/quote]

    That is what I meant, though I didn’t realize the design was still very similar.

    [quote comment=”115937″][quote comment=”115920″][quote comment=”115914″]George Hendrick pioneered the long pants look, and Ron Darling kept it going thereafter, and it picked up steam as time passed. I didn’t mind the long pants, though I preferred it when players showed their socks.

    I don’t know who first began wearing pajama pants, but I remember Derek Bell going with this look big time. I assign a substantial amount of blame for this travesty to Jeff Bagwell, as I think that he was the first superstar to start wearing his pants about eight sizes too big and too long.[/quote]

    Bagwell may well be very guilty, but it was largely for function over form. He wore his pants looser than most because of his wide legged, low crouch, batting stance: link

    You may be onto something there. It took several years into Bagwell’s career before he went baggy-crazy, though.

    link

    And extra crotch roominess wouldn’t explain having pants that were floppy-baggy below the knew and having pants that reached the ground.[/quote]

    Think about it though, he needed more room on the hips too (to see what I’m talking about, stand in that crouched position for a good 15 seconds), and since he probably didn’t want his uniform pants to ride up his legs while he batted, he likely had them tailored looser in the legs. Even if he hadn’t though, can you imagine how goofy it would look if he had uniform pants that were loose on the top and tailored close on the lower leg? He might have ended up looking like a Zouave: link

    [quote comment=”115787″][quote comment=”115767″]For the link.[/quote]

    Awesome! My compliments to the chef.[/quote]

    Thanks, Paul. I hope it doesn’t start a riot.

    don’t know if anyone else has touched on this but tonight in the home run derby players will be wearing a league batting practice hat: orange for the AL and black for the NL to match the BP jerseys. first time this has happened. i’m assuming its new era pushing the new bp cap design. wonder if any or all players will shun the hat for the all star game caps…

    [quote comment=”115807″]going back to yesterdays post on the phillies and their assistance with the colorado grounds crew to get the tarp situated…

    in all the footage ive seen, i saw only phillies (save latroy hawkins) rush to the aid of the crew.

    a visual of the dugout at the time of the wind/rainstorm showed virtually all uniformed personell immediately jump out of the dugout with the utmost concern for the safety of that staff, and without regard for themselves.

    even after it was under control and a full field shot was shown, i still saw not 1 rockie leaving the field as though they helped.

    where was this team… the home team?

    looked as though they were absent when their staff needed them most.

    now i understand that neither the rockies nor the phillies have any obligation whatsoever to help in a situation like this, but jeez colorado, help out the guys who maintain your work space, the guys who keep it safe with cut grass and diamond dry. the guys who dont bat an eye to cover your field when there is a downpour.

    i live an hour from philly, and im not really a phillies fan, but seeing the reigning mvp and past and current all stars help out their host made me one yesterday.

    but where were you colorado rockies?[/quote]

    I saw it on espn quickly but, is it possible the rest of the rockies were already in the clubhouse, with no idea what was going on?

    [quote comment=”115947″]don’t know if anyone else has touched on this but tonight in the home run derby players will be wearing a league batting practice hat: orange for the AL and black for the NL to match the BP jerseys. first time this has happened. i’m assuming its new era pushing the new bp cap design. wonder if any or all players will shun the hat for the all star game caps…[/quote]
    brian, where’d you hear that?

    Is there any difference between the new Manchester United shirt and the one they wore last season?

    [quote comment=”115940″][quote comment=”115923″]Scott Erickson, then with the Twins, made the solid color sock look cool. THAT was the death knell for the stirrup as we love it.[/quote]

    It was curious that just as the vast majority of players were wearing their pants at the ankles and completely hiding their socks, Erickson pulled his up just enough to show the solid color sock.

    Back in the day, I remember reading why Erickson wore his pants and socks in this manner, but for the life of me I can no longer remember the explanation.[/quote]

    I seem to remember it being part of his ritual. He wore all black to the stadium, blacked out any color on his shoes and glove, and puched his stirrups (they still wore them then) so only the dark part showed (wouldn’t have been black while he was with MIN). It may have been a superstitious thing. All I know for sure is my Angels never could beat him.

    [quote comment=”115897″][quote comment=”115893″][quote comment=”115767″]For the link.[/quote]

    EXCELLENT!! I would have joined the first day, except for the stupid “no purple” rule. My favorite team is the Cardinals, so it doesn’t affect me directly (although the Rockies are my emergency backup team), but the exclusion of purple teams really bugs me, so I decided not to join at all until the fans of purple teams can get their Vikings, Ravens, Lakers, Suns, or Rockies cards. I know, I know, this whole thing is Paul’s baby and he can do what he wants, but I find the purple exclusion kind of petty and childish, frankly. Like any other form of discrimination — racial, gender, sexual orientation — only writ really, really, really small.[/quote]

    I swear, if I went along with the purple thing, there would no doubt be people accusing me of selling out my aesthetic princples just to get my hands on more membership $$$. Can’t please everyone…

    Anyway: Sorry, but the no-purple rule still holds. Please, it’s not discriminating against anyone; it’s just discriminating against a color. Equating it with homophobia or bigotry is not only way out of line but also diminishes the genuine harm that comes from real forms of discrimination.

    Anyone is welcome to join. I’m simply not willing to print my logo and sign my name on something that’s purple. Simple as that. If you think that’s arbitrary or silly, I think we can both live with that and agree to disagree.[/quote]

    I have to say, that in the long time that I have read this blog, which would be from day one, I have been fascinated by the subtle racism that seems to run throughout the readers and contributors alike. True, it may be coincidental that the NBA does not receive much attn. on this blog and happens to be a dominant black sport, but it could also be the product of a people who are so entrenched in there lifestyles that they fail to accept anything different.
    Simply not accepting a color and refusing to endorse anything associated with it is acceptable only to those who find such practices already acceptable. It is not “okay” and is harmful to those who bleed purple and gold b/c you are casting vulnerability onto a people.

    [quote comment=”115951″][quote comment=”115947″]don’t know if anyone else has touched on this but tonight in the home run derby players will be wearing a league batting practice hat: orange for the AL and black for the NL to match the BP jerseys. first time this has happened. i’m assuming its new era pushing the new bp cap design. wonder if any or all players will shun the hat for the all star game caps…[/quote]
    brian, where’d you hear that?[/quote]

    It says it link at the mlb shop

    [quote comment=”115954″]Is there any difference between the new Manchester United shirt and the one they wore last season?[/quote]

    yes, but as you are a Uniwatcher you can go look at the images of the new and old jerseys and decide for yourself. (i really just don’t want to hunt down the images for you when you could just as easily do it yourself)

    [quote comment=”115957″][quote comment=”115897″][quote comment=”115893″][quote comment=”115767″]For the link.[/quote]

    EXCELLENT!! I would have joined the first day, except for the stupid “no purple” rule. My favorite team is the Cardinals, so it doesn’t affect me directly (although the Rockies are my emergency backup team), but the exclusion of purple teams really bugs me, so I decided not to join at all until the fans of purple teams can get their Vikings, Ravens, Lakers, Suns, or Rockies cards. I know, I know, this whole thing is Paul’s baby and he can do what he wants, but I find the purple exclusion kind of petty and childish, frankly. Like any other form of discrimination — racial, gender, sexual orientation — only writ really, really, really small.[/quote]

    I swear, if I went along with the purple thing, there would no doubt be people accusing me of selling out my aesthetic princples just to get my hands on more membership $$$. Can’t please everyone…

    Anyway: Sorry, but the no-purple rule still holds. Please, it’s not discriminating against anyone; it’s just discriminating against a color. Equating it with homophobia or bigotry is not only way out of line but also diminishes the genuine harm that comes from real forms of discrimination.

    Anyone is welcome to join. I’m simply not willing to print my logo and sign my name on something that’s purple. Simple as that. If you think that’s arbitrary or silly, I think we can both live with that and agree to disagree.[/quote]

    I have to say, that in the long time that I have read this blog, which would be from day one, I have been fascinated by the subtle racism that seems to run throughout the readers and contributors alike. True, it may be coincidental that the NBA does not receive much attn. on this blog and happens to be a dominant black sport, but it could also be the product of a people who are so entrenched in there lifestyles that they fail to accept anything different.
    Simply not accepting a color and refusing to endorse anything associated with it is acceptable only to those who find such practices already acceptable. It is not “okay” and is harmful to those who bleed purple and gold b/c you are casting vulnerability onto a people.[/quote]

    So from day one you’ve thought this blog was racist, and yet you still read it? If you’re so convinced there’s discrimination, stop reading; I would. Of course, I don’t equate people not liking a particular color from the crayon box with racism.

    (And for the record, purple is my favorite color, and I have no problem with people not liking it and not being able to get a membership card in it.)

    [quote comment=”115957″][quote comment=”115897″][quote comment=”115893″][quote comment=”115767″]For the link.[/quote]

    EXCELLENT!! I would have joined the first day, except for the stupid “no purple” rule. My favorite team is the Cardinals, so it doesn’t affect me directly (although the Rockies are my emergency backup team), but the exclusion of purple teams really bugs me, so I decided not to join at all until the fans of purple teams can get their Vikings, Ravens, Lakers, Suns, or Rockies cards. I know, I know, this whole thing is Paul’s baby and he can do what he wants, but I find the purple exclusion kind of petty and childish, frankly. Like any other form of discrimination — racial, gender, sexual orientation — only writ really, really, really small.[/quote]

    I swear, if I went along with the purple thing, there would no doubt be people accusing me of selling out my aesthetic princples just to get my hands on more membership $$$. Can’t please everyone…

    Anyway: Sorry, but the no-purple rule still holds. Please, it’s not discriminating against anyone; it’s just discriminating against a color. Equating it with homophobia or bigotry is not only way out of line but also diminishes the genuine harm that comes from real forms of discrimination.

    Anyone is welcome to join. I’m simply not willing to print my logo and sign my name on something that’s purple. Simple as that. If you think that’s arbitrary or silly, I think we can both live with that and agree to disagree.[/quote]

    I have to say, that in the long time that I have read this blog, which would be from day one, I have been fascinated by the subtle racism that seems to run throughout the readers and contributors alike. True, it may be coincidental that the NBA does not receive much attn. on this blog and happens to be a dominant black sport, but it could also be the product of a people who are so entrenched in there lifestyles that they fail to accept anything different.
    Simply not accepting a color and refusing to endorse anything associated with it is acceptable only to those who find such practices already acceptable. It is not “okay” and is harmful to those who bleed purple and gold b/c you are casting vulnerability onto a people.[/quote]

    i think you’re blowing that a little out of proportion. Paul has said before that he doesn’t cover soccer because he doesn’t know nearly enough about it, that doesn’t make him racist against…well…most of the world. if he doesn’t know that much about basketball, and he got things wrong, people would me more upset than not being covered (or so i think). That’s not racism, that’s just “not giving an opinion when you don’t know enough”.

    as for purple…he doesn’t like a color, whoop di doo, go to your second team, or use the uniwatch colors, don’t kill the guy over it.

    [quote comment=”115957″][quote comment=”115897″][quote comment=”115893″][quote comment=”115767″]For the link.[/quote]

    EXCELLENT!! I would have joined the first day, except for the stupid “no purple” rule. My favorite team is the Cardinals, so it doesn’t affect me directly (although the Rockies are my emergency backup team), but the exclusion of purple teams really bugs me, so I decided not to join at all until the fans of purple teams can get their Vikings, Ravens, Lakers, Suns, or Rockies cards. I know, I know, this whole thing is Paul’s baby and he can do what he wants, but I find the purple exclusion kind of petty and childish, frankly. Like any other form of discrimination — racial, gender, sexual orientation — only writ really, really, really small.[/quote]

    I swear, if I went along with the purple thing, there would no doubt be people accusing me of selling out my aesthetic princples just to get my hands on more membership $$$. Can’t please everyone…

    Anyway: Sorry, but the no-purple rule still holds. Please, it’s not discriminating against anyone; it’s just discriminating against a color. Equating it with homophobia or bigotry is not only way out of line but also diminishes the genuine harm that comes from real forms of discrimination.

    Anyone is welcome to join. I’m simply not willing to print my logo and sign my name on something that’s purple. Simple as that. If you think that’s arbitrary or silly, I think we can both live with that and agree to disagree.[/quote]

    I have to say, that in the long time that I have read this blog, which would be from day one, I have been fascinated by the subtle racism that seems to run throughout the readers and contributors alike. True, it may be coincidental that the NBA does not receive much attn. on this blog and happens to be a dominant black sport, but it could also be the product of a people who are so entrenched in there lifestyles that they fail to accept anything different.
    Simply not accepting a color and refusing to endorse anything associated with it is acceptable only to those who find such practices already acceptable. It is not “okay” and is harmful to those who bleed purple and gold b/c you are casting vulnerability onto a people.[/quote]

    Um, I bleed purple and gold (Univ. of Washington alum) and I would appreciate it if you DON’T speak for me.

    Also, how is your perceived lack of attention to the NBA racist? First off, the NBA is not ignored on this blog. Secondly, if less attention is being given to the NBA, don’t you think that it parallels the decline of the NBA’s popularity across the country as a whole? I guess that means we’re all racist.

    What would you guys think of as pajama pants?
    I personally like the way Jose Reyes and David Wright wear their pants. Would you guys consider the look good or bad?
    link

    No time to run through all the posts, but the Tour de France started saturday, and Discovery launched some link. The green is to denote they are a “carbon neutral” team.

    [quote comment=”115979″]No time to run through all the posts, but the Tour de France started saturday, and Discovery launched some link. The green is to denote they are a “carbon neutral” team.[/quote]

    That is an awesome helmet. Love the Flying Tigers fuselage art.

    [quote comment=”115979″]No time to run through all the posts, but the Tour de France started saturday, and Discovery launched some link. The green is to denote they are a “carbon neutral” team.[/quote]

    Sorry, I dont watch the tour de france, but that “carbon neutral” thing got me wondering….. I know (or think) that each team has some sort of SUV/truck that they cary spare parts and whatnot in… Does anyone know if Discovery’s is a hybrid, electric etc?

    Let’s not forget Red Balloons in the Charms. That cereal is the best thing the Irish ever gave us. (if you don’t see my humor, read it again. And again.)

    Maybe we don’t talk about the NBA because it sucks.

    [quote comment=”115873″][quote comment=”115872″]when players show sock, be it stirrups or full color socks, why is it always said that they are “wearing their socks high”?

    arent they really wearing their pants high?[/quote]

    Probably. I’ve never been known for my command of the English language. But then again, when I hear of someone wearing their pants high I think of grandpa with his belt around his chest.[/quote]

    same reason that the foul pole is fair.

    [quote comment=”115999″][quote comment=”115979″]No time to run through all the posts, but the Tour de France started saturday, and Discovery launched some link. The green is to denote they are a “carbon neutral” team.[/quote]

    Sorry, I dont watch the tour de france, but that “carbon neutral” thing got me wondering….. I know (or think) that each team has some sort of SUV/truck that they cary spare parts and whatnot in… Does anyone know if Discovery’s is a hybrid, electric etc?[/quote]

    Actually, I don’t think so. Each team in the Tour gets a few cars from the Tours sponsor, so they are all alike (not true for the other races). The only way these teams are carbon neutral, or green, is by paying for credits that offset the CO2 they produce. So basically, they change nothing about what they do, but pay for some trees to be planted. All PR.

    Paul,

    Excellent response, especially No. 1. As a black woman, I’ve seen more than my share of the cultural divide as opposed to true racism (No, I’m not saying that racism doesn’t exist, that would be foolish. I’m just saying I know the difference.).

    Paul, any news on the commemorative Auburn patch and uniform (for one game, right?) they will wear this year?

    Unfortunately, I’m a Rangers fan. I wasn’t watching that night, and I’m kind of glad I didn’t after how good that Oriole pitched. As for the sheriff badge, I think that was a one night thing for Grieve. I really like listening to them but sometimes they can get carried away on a subject. Oh well.

    Maybe I’m showing my age here, but what does Steve McQueen have to do with butterflies?

    I remember NHL Hall of Famer Brian Trottier sliding on the tarp with the Stanley Cup at a Pirates game seen here.

    That was actually the Penguins’ 1992 Stanley Cup celebration, which was held at Three Rivers on a rainy day.

    JERSEY TRADE UPDATE: I made the switch with the esteemed Al Gruwell of Cedar Rapids, and I’m now looking for a Marlins lettering/numbering kit. Anyone know the best spot to get this at on the net…I’ve looked around and all I found was a Cabrera kit online. Thanks all!

    Frank

    Two points from me.
    1) I hate the fact that the MLB All-Star jerseys this year (the San Francisco game) have a San Francisco/Bay Area front, but the back features the Chicago Cubs font. EXTREMELY IRKSOME!
    2) I HATE the Mets, so I don’t want one, but there are Mercury Mets hats available on eBay. Search “NEW NY Mets MLB Baseball Rare Collectors Logo Cap” and you will get them from a particular vendor, who has them in sizes 7; 7 1/8; 7 1/2; and 7 3/8.

    Bad news everyone… After seeing the awesome photo of Ruth and McGraw, I went to the Hall of Fame site to check out the color of those old Giants unis, but the “Dressed to the Nines” exhibit is gone. I sold my Marc Okkonen book years ago because that website existed.

    [quote comment=”116026″][quote comment=”116009″]Maybe I’m showing my age here, but what does Steve McQueen have to do with butterflies?[/quote]

    link.[/quote]
    Haven’t seen that one. Thanks

    [quote comment=”116028″]Bad news everyone… After seeing the awesome photo of Ruth and McGraw, I went to the Hall of Fame site to check out the color of those old Giants unis, but the “Dressed to the Nines” exhibit is gone. I sold my Marc Okkonen book years ago because that website existed.[/quote]

    See post link

    [quote comment=”116003″][quote comment=”115999″][quote comment=”115979″]No time to run through all the posts, but the Tour de France started saturday, and Discovery launched some link. The green is to denote they are a “carbon neutral” team.[/quote]

    Sorry, I dont watch the tour de france, but that “carbon neutral” thing got me wondering….. I know (or think) that each team has some sort of SUV/truck that they cary spare parts and whatnot in… Does anyone know if Discovery’s is a hybrid, electric etc?[/quote]

    Actually, I don’t think so. Each team in the Tour gets a few cars from the Tours sponsor, so they are all alike (not true for the other races). The only way these teams are carbon neutral, or green, is by paying for credits that offset the CO2 they produce. So basically, they change nothing about what they do, but pay for some trees to be planted. All PR.[/quote]

    I know all about companies planting trees and calling themselves carbon neutral, i just thought it would have been ironic had they been in say, an excursion, claiming to be carbon neutral…. oh, and the planting of the trees to offset the co2, well it doesnt quite work that way

    [quote comment=”116012″]Great analysis of the new Washington Capitals logo design scheme by an actual graphic designer can be found link.[/quote]

    That blog has a follow up that has a side-by-side comparison of the new Caps’ secondary W-eagle logo next to similar logos like that of the Firebird and DC United, which is where the criticism of the Caps eagle logo’s is coming from.

    Those lonesome few that follow my random sometimes/sometimes not uniform-related escapades on this website, might consider me a designer of sorts, but I in no way claim to be a professional at it having no real instruction other than my own tinkering. However, in cases like this, I like to think about the Ghostbusters Lawsuit. In ’84, Havery Comics sued Columbia Pictures for 50-some-odd million dollars because they claimed that the Ghostbusters logo was carbon copy of Casper the Friendly Ghost. The case was later dismissed, the judge ruling that “There are only very limited ways to draw the figure of a cartoon ghost.”

    I don’t see why a this reasoning isn’t brought up rather than jumping to claim that an image is a ‘rip-off’, as Kornheiser put it a few weeks ago. Granted, a case like the link, the subtleties of the final design are too specific to be not be taken as a link. But with something that is a simple image, like a ghost or in the Washington’s case, an eagle, I like to ask the question: How many different ways can you draw an eagle with it’s wings spread? You can only do so much, and I don’t feel that simply using something other than an eagle (just because it’s been done before) isn’t exactly appropriate for a place that is already steeped in the imagery of an iconic figure like in DC. So just because it might look the same logo as another team in the DC area, but how many ways can you draw an eagle in the first place?

    I’m leaving out a bunch of points that I could argue both for and against the question, but you don’t want to read a boring thesis paper. And I’m probably stretching it on this one too, so correct me if I’m wrong.

    [quote comment=”116043″]Glad to see that I am finally official!

    [/quote]

    One last try, membership card in the bosses favorite team colors!

    link

    [quote comment=”116028″]Bad news everyone… After seeing the awesome photo of Ruth and McGraw, I went to the Hall of Fame site to check out the color of those old Giants unis, but the “Dressed to the Nines” exhibit is gone. I sold my Marc Okkonen book years ago because that website existed.[/quote]

    Blasphemer. The website was created so that those of us owning Okkonen’s book would not wear it out any further. My copy is at the center of a Uni Altar in my study.

    [quote comment=”116006″]Paul, any news on the commemorative Auburn patch and uniform (for one game, right?) they will wear this year?[/quote]

    The rumor that is making the rounds amongst my football-associated classmates (Yes, I attend link.) is that the one-game uniform is going to be a throwback uniform to the ’57 national championship team. If that’s true, it means there’s not really going to be link from the current design. I was also told that they would be wearing a older style helmet with the link with that uniform. Pretty dumb, considering that design wasn’t used until ’61-ish. But I digress, it’s all purely speculation. Me? I’m expecting the link. I’m done. I’ve written enough for one day.

    [quote comment=”115769″]I despise the Islanders, but that article is kind of funny.[/quote]

    Note over at newyorkislanders.com that four of their new players were introduced today in last season’s uniforms. They don’t appear to be the new material, but they’re all wearing the dark blue, so maybe my computer screen is hiding something in the details. So, for now at least, Islander fans can rest easy that the prototype jersey is just that.

    They better not be wearing those God-awful BP hats that say “American” and “National” during the Derby. Will New Era and Bud Selig stop at nothing to cram these hats down our throats?

    [quote comment=”116051″]They better not be wearing those God-awful BP hats that say “American” and “National” during the Derby. Will New Era and Bud Selig stop at nothing to cram these hats down our throats?[/quote]

    oh god, they are indeed wearing the caps

    [quote comment=”116051″]They better not be wearing those God-awful BP hats that say “American” and “National” during the Derby. Will New Era and Bud Selig stop at nothing to cram these hats down our throats?[/quote]

    They are and holy crap they’re hideous. Even Vlad Guerrero is wearing one

    [quote comment=”116053″][quote comment=”116051″]They better not be wearing those God-awful BP hats that say “American” and “National” during the Derby. Will New Era and Bud Selig stop at nothing to cram these hats down our throats?[/quote]

    oh god, they are indeed wearing the caps[/quote]

    Unbelievable. Those are ugly beyond words.

    [quote comment=”115998″]Lucky Charms hit the shelves in 1963. The first boxes of Lucky Charms cereal contained marshmallows in the shapes of pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars, and green clovers. Blue diamonds were introduced in 1975. Purple horseshoes didn’t join the roster until 1984. That’s 21 years folks. 21 years for Purple to take it’s place in the rainbow of Lucky Charms.

    Think about it.[/quote]

    Hands down the best response of the day. Not even close. The absurdity is clear and foils the ridiculousness of the initial supposition of racism here, and I applaud you, Roger Faso, for posting it.

    Having actually met Paul and discussed race with him for much longer than we should have, I assure everyone on this blog that any accusation of racism or bigotry is baseless, and, quite frankly, shockingly ridiculous.

    [quote comment=”116053″][quote comment=”116051″]They better not be wearing those God-awful BP hats that say “American” and “National” during the Derby. Will New Era and Bud Selig stop at nothing to cram these hats down our throats?[/quote]

    oh god, they are indeed wearing the caps[/quote]
    Any rule saying you must wear A cap? I want to think that many NFL players forsake all Reebok hats to avoid clashing with Nike sponsorships.

    And while we’re discussing who’s wearing what, comment of the day goes to my brother in law who called me right after Baseball Tonight started and asked “Is Dusty Baker going to a wedding?”

    I’d still rather wear that suit than those hats.

    [quote comment=”115998″]Purple horseshoes didn’t join the roster until 1984. That’s 21 years folks. 21 years for Purple to take it’s place in the rainbow of Lucky Charms.

    Think about it.[/quote]
    So you’re saying we’ll get our purple membership cards in 2028?

    (Just kidding, Paul!)

    On that national league hats, the arch over the ears looks black.

    The arch on the AL hats looks red

    Am I seeing this right?

    I’m speechless… you think the least they could do if they’re going to jam these crappy hats down our throats is give us a stylized “N” or “A” instead of the whole word.

    Sorry… This is a mild outrage, for me at least. Can’t wait to see what Paul has to say.

    [quote comment=”116063″]On that national league hats, the arch over the ears looks black.

    The arch on the AL hats looks red

    Am I seeing this right?[/quote]

    Does it matter? They look absolutely terrible. not just the hats… the jerseys and everything. Seeing Morneau hitting by himself was one thing, but then when he walked back to the rest of the AL team, it made everything look ten times worse.

    Is it just me or are the panels under the arms and down the side of this year’s All Star BP jerseys exactly the same as last year’s but with Giants colors instead of Pirates colors?

    [quote comment=”116066″]Is it just me or are the panels under the arms and down the side of this year’s All Star BP jerseys exactly the same as last year’s but with Giants colors instead of Pirates colors?[/quote]

    Look the same to me. I don’t like these one or two button jerseys… give us button-ups! I watched the ’99 Derby on ESPN Classic today… now those were jerseys.

    [quote comment=”116066″]Is it just me or are the panels under the arms and down the side of this year’s All Star BP jerseys exactly the same as last year’s but with Giants colors instead of Pirates colors?[/quote]
    Check. Last year was the “trial,” but now the template is real, and it’s craptasticular as ever. Especially the way the Chicago Cubs number font is on SAN FRANCISCO All-Star game jerseys. Sorry to beat this over the head, but this is my least favorite part of these shenanigans.

    [quote comment=”116048″][quote comment=”116006″]Paul, any news on the commemorative Auburn patch and uniform (for one game, right?) they will wear this year?[/quote]

    The rumor that is making the rounds amongst my football-associated classmates (Yes, I attend link.) is that the one-game uniform is going to be a throwback uniform to the ’57 national championship team. If that’s true, it means there’s not really going to be link from the current design. I was also told that they would be wearing a older style helmet with the link with that uniform. Pretty dumb, considering that design wasn’t used until ’61-ish. But I digress, it’s all purely speculation. Me? I’m expecting the link. I’m done. I’ve written enough for one day.[/quote]

    That would be pretty cool, nothing major then, just a classic look. That last link, eww… when I saw that, I was like, ‘Hell has officially frozen over!’ Anyways, War Eagle! and thanks for the insight.

    [quote comment=”116050″][quote comment=”115769″]I despise the Islanders, but that article is kind of funny.[/quote]

    Note over at newyorkislanders.com that four of their new players were introduced today in last season’s uniforms. They don’t appear to be the new material, but they’re all wearing the dark blue, so maybe my computer screen is hiding something in the details. So, for now at least, Islander fans can rest easy that the prototype jersey is just that.[/quote]

    Not only are they not the new material but they are replicas. Note the CCM logo on the link

    [quote comment=”116080″]Paul, what are your thoughts on link?[/quote]

    Ho. Lee. Fuck. This whole HR Derby event is pretty much the end of civilization as we know it.

    “New Look Of Sharks Terrirtory Coming July 24
    In two weeks, Sharks fans will see a new updated logo for their hockey team and the early player reviews are extremely positive.”

    Yes, i see the typo, but this was a direct quote from sjsharks.com.

    Just turned on the derby. These hats are HORRIBLE. I always liked the player’s team hat with the all-star jersey. MLB merchandising has to end.

    I’m going to have to disagree with the most of you. I find the Orange American jerseys to be quite tasteful, and the Black “BP” National hats to be something that I’d actually would buy. The orange BP hats do loose a lot due to the darker orange under the curve.

    [quote comment=”116091″]Just turned on the derby. These hats are HORRIBLE. I always liked the player’s team hat with the all-star jersey. MLB merchandising has to end.[/quote]
    At least Ryan howard had the decency to take that f*cking rag off his head when he hit.

    [quote comment=”116092″]I’m going to have to disagree with the most of you. I find the Orange American jerseys to be quite tasteful, and the Black “BP” National hats to be something that I’d actually would buy. The orange BP hats do loose a lot due to the darker orange under the curve.[/quote]

    I like the jerseys with the exception of the 1 button pullover; I just think it sucks that they took away the tradition of the team hats with the BP jerseys, especially when these are hats that everyone hates, including the players

    [quote comment=”116098″][quote comment=”116091″]Just turned on the derby. These hats are HORRIBLE. I always liked the player’s team hat with the all-star jersey. MLB merchandising has to end.[/quote]
    At least Ryan howard had the decency to take that f*cking rag off his head when he hit.[/quote]

    Woo Hoo! Vlad just did it too!

    [quote comment=”116100″][quote comment=”116098″][quote comment=”116091″]Just turned on the derby. These hats are HORRIBLE. I always liked the player’s team hat with the all-star jersey. MLB merchandising has to end.[/quote]
    At least Ryan howard had the decency to take that f*cking rag off his head when he hit.[/quote]

    Woo Hoo! Vlad just did it too![/quote]

    What a relief to see Vlad and Howard ditching those ass-ugly hats. It’s weird to see a bare-headed ballplayer in the batter’s box, but DAMN, those hats are fugly.

    Anyone notice one of the National players stretching the hell out of his pants to get them over his shoes? I got a link but it is somewhat blurry. Someone tell him to go high cuffed and he won’t have this problem.

    As far as the black hats looking better than the orange, the spot over the ear looks like a different color when the light hits it right. So I say boo on both counts.

    Ugly or not its part of the uniform…Thats what baseball is its about the uniforms. Shouldnt be able to choose whether or not he wears a hat…It was issued by the league as a team you want to be part of the team you wear the hat.

    I’d prefer to see the club hats on the participants but in the absence of that I want to see every one in UNIFORM.

    Back to those Sulphur Dell photos mentioned on July 5, take a gander at the Elite Giants caps and how it seems that 2 players have link. I thought they might be the coaches. If so, was that common or unprecedented?

    Also! I may as well ask here if anyone has ever seen KC Royals hats from 1969 with a yellow/gold KC instead of the white. On eBay, I saw one represented on a Fleer 1969 plastic “card”. I also looked at the few 1969 Topps cards I own and can’t tell if the KC is yellow or it’s just blue bleeding into the white or something. The photos aren’t crystal clear. It may be that these caps weren’t ever used in the 1969 regular season but were a prototype of sorts.

    [quote comment=”115813″][quote comment=”115809″]I know Dick Allen of the White Sox was on the cover of Sports Illustrated (in uniform, in the dugout!) smoking.[/quote]

    A truly link, for many reasons.[/quote]

    they’re wearing red!?!

    [quote comment=”116059″]And while we’re discussing who’s wearing what, comment of the day goes to my brother in law who called me right after Baseball Tonight started and asked “Is Dusty Baker going to a wedding?”

    I’d still rather wear that suit than those hats.[/quote]
    It looks like a leisure suit!

    Missed the HR Derby, after seeing the pictures I’m glad I opted for the History Channel’s 2 hrs of Vlad Tepes (the model for Dracula) documentaries. Vlad G, however, looked better with his dreads than his (hideous) cap. Whoever made those caps should get the link.

    I am watching the celebrity softball game and its hilarious. Kevin Mitchell is out there with what appears to be a size 60 jersey flapping in the wind. Jimmy Kimmel’s dumb ass still has the sticker under the bill of his cap.

    [quote comment=”116087″]”New Look Of Sharks Terrirtory Coming July 24
    In two weeks, Sharks fans will see a new updated logo for their hockey team and the early player reviews are extremely positive.”

    Yes, i see the typo, but this was a direct quote from sjsharks.com.[/quote]

    I don’t trust the players. The Sharks had, by far, the best of the 90’s-era hockey logos.

    [quote comment=”116137″]Missed the HR Derby, after seeing the pictures I’m glad I opted for the History Channel’s 2 hrs of Vlad Tepes (the model for Dracula) documentaries. Vlad G, however, looked better with his dreads than his (hideous) cap. Whoever made those caps should get the link.

    I am watching the celebrity softball game and its hilarious. Kevin Mitchell is out there with what appears to be a size 60 jersey flapping in the wind. Jimmy Kimmel’s dumb ass still has the sticker under the bill of his cap.[/quote]

    What’s wrong with keeping the hologram sticker? The Size sticker on the top of the brim should be removed, but I always keep the underbrim sticker.

    [quote comment=”116137″]Missed the HR Derby, after seeing the pictures I’m glad I opted for the History Channel’s 2 hrs of Vlad Tepes (the model for Dracula) documentaries. Vlad G, however, looked better with his dreads than his (hideous) cap. Whoever made those caps should get the link.

    I am watching the celebrity softball game and its hilarious. Kevin Mitchell is out there with what appears to be a size 60 jersey flapping in the wind. Jimmy Kimmel’s dumb ass still has the sticker under the bill of his cap.[/quote]

    Kenny Mane pulled a Curtis Granderson! And this whole game is hilarious on multiple levels. I wish they’d show it live.

    [quote comment=”116087″]”New Look Of Sharks Terrirtory Coming July 24
    In two weeks, Sharks fans will see a new updated logo for their hockey team and the early player reviews are extremely positive.”

    Yes, i see the typo, but this was a direct quote from sjsharks.com.[/quote]

    Oh no no no no no. As a Sharks fan for 13 years, the team’s logo’s and colors have been the most iconic part of the team for me. I just hope that the rumors that the team will be introducing more orange into the mix will not be true.

    [quote comment=”116139″][quote comment=”116137″]Missed the HR Derby, after seeing the pictures I’m glad I opted for the History Channel’s 2 hrs of Vlad Tepes (the model for Dracula) documentaries. Vlad G, however, looked better with his dreads than his (hideous) cap. Whoever made those caps should get the link.

    I am watching the celebrity softball game and its hilarious. Kevin Mitchell is out there with what appears to be a size 60 jersey flapping in the wind. Jimmy Kimmel’s dumb ass still has the sticker under the bill of his cap.[/quote]

    What’s wrong with keeping the hologram sticker? The Size sticker on the top of the brim should be removed, but I always keep the underbrim sticker.[/quote]
    I’m a fan of removing the manufacturer’s tags from my clothing. Ever worn that waist x inseam sticker on a new pair of slacks to the office? Quite embarrassing. ;)

    [quote comment=”116141″][quote comment=”116087″]”New Look Of Sharks Terrirtory Coming July 24
    In two weeks, Sharks fans will see a new updated logo for their hockey team and the early player reviews are extremely positive.”

    Yes, i see the typo, but this was a direct quote from sjsharks.com.[/quote]

    Oh no no no no no. As a Sharks fan for 13 years, the team’s logo’s and colors have been the most iconic part of the team for me. I just hope that the rumors that the team will be introducing more orange into the mix will not be true.[/quote]
    You can see many a rumor link. The fifth post appears to have a legitimate piece of info.

    Jimmy Kimmel is a jackass…which explains why he was wearing a Mets cap.

    [quote comment=”116141″][quote comment=”116087″]”New Look Of Sharks Terrirtory Coming July 24
    In two weeks, Sharks fans will see a new updated logo for their hockey team and the early player reviews are extremely positive.”

    Yes, i see the typo, but this was a direct quote from sjsharks.com.[/quote]

    Oh no no no no no. As a Sharks fan for 13 years, the team’s logo’s and colors have been the most iconic part of the team for me. I just hope that the rumors that the team will be introducing more orange into the mix will not be true.[/quote]

    Apparently it’ll be the color of the hockey stick in the logo. According to Chris Creamer’s site, the RGB is 218, 111, 34.

    [quote comment=”115897″][quote comment=”115893″][quote comment=”115767″]For the link.[/quote]

    EXCELLENT!! I would have joined the first day, except for the stupid “no purple” rule. My favorite team is the Cardinals, so it doesn’t affect me directly (although the Rockies are my emergency backup team), but the exclusion of purple teams really bugs me, so I decided not to join at all until the fans of purple teams can get their Vikings, Ravens, Lakers, Suns, or Rockies cards. I know, I know, this whole thing is Paul’s baby and he can do what he wants, but I find the purple exclusion kind of petty and childish, frankly. Like any other form of discrimination — racial, gender, sexual orientation — only writ really, really, really small.[/quote]

    I swear, if I went along with the purple thing, there would no doubt be people accusing me of selling out my aesthetic princples just to get my hands on more membership $$$. Can’t please everyone…

    Anyway: Sorry, but the no-purple rule still holds. Please, it’s not discriminating against anyone; it’s just discriminating against a color. Equating it with homophobia or bigotry is not only way out of line but also diminishes the genuine harm that comes from real forms of discrimination.

    Anyone is welcome to join. I’m simply not willing to print my logo and sign my name on something that’s purple. Simple as that. If you think that’s arbitrary or silly, I think we can both live with that and agree to disagree.[/quote]
    MORALITY WATCH is alive and well I see!

    [quote comment=”116109″]Ugly or not its part of the uniform…Thats what baseball is its about the uniforms. Shouldnt be able to choose whether or not he wears a hat…It was issued by the league as a team you want to be part of the team you wear the hat.

    I’d prefer to see the club hats on the participants but in the absence of that I want to see every one in UNIFORM.[/quote]

    I disagree in this instance.

    The All-Star Game is an event which celebrates and promotes an individual’s accomplishments over the first half of the season.

    These hats are simply a bad, unapologetic attempt to offer another merchandise option to the person who already has his team’s All-Star hat or whatever else.

    Paul says, and I quote “…I’m simply not willing to print my logo and sign my name on something that’s purple…”

    Paul, I was just looking at the card gallery, and none of the back of the cards has your signature, name, or logo on it. Only on the front. If you were to give in to the protest for purple, your name will still be on the front, and the back will have the name of the person who wanted purple after all. The way I see it, it’s a win-win. Your not associated with purple, and members get their desired team on the back. Comprende?

    Speaking of leaving the stickers on your cap, a new laughable trend has started. As i’m sure most of you have seen, some people think its “cool” to leave the circular gold sizing sticker on the bill of the old 59fifty’s. I think it looks silly, but it’s not a real big deal. However, the new 59fifty’s come with a link across the whole bill describing the new features. I figured there’s no one stupid enough to think it would look cool to leave that on there, but low and behold I saw it multiple times at the HR derby tonight. Sigh.

    [quote comment=”116139″]

    What’s wrong with keeping the hologram sticker? The Size sticker on the top of the brim should be removed, but I always keep the underbrim sticker.[/quote]

    Why?

    [quote comment=”116159″]Paul says, and I quote “…I’m simply not willing to print my logo and sign my name on something that’s purple…”

    Paul, I was just looking at the card gallery, and none of the back of the cards has your signature, name, or logo on it. Only on the front. If you were to give in to the protest for purple, your name will still be on the front, and the back will have the name of the person who wanted purple after all. The way I see it, it’s a win-win. Your not associated with purple, and members get their desired team on the back. Comprende?[/quote]

    That makes no sense. That’s like saying that my Blue Jays cap isn’t affiliated with the MLB because the MLB logo is on the back of the cap.

    [quote comment=”116077″][quote comment=”116050″][quote comment=”115769″]I despise the Islanders, but that article is kind of funny.[/quote]

    Note over at newyorkislanders.com that four of their new players were introduced today in last season’s uniforms. They don’t appear to be the new material, but they’re all wearing the dark blue, so maybe my computer screen is hiding something in the details. So, for now at least, Islander fans can rest easy that the prototype jersey is just that.[/quote]

    Not only are they not the new material but they are replicas. Note the CCM logo on the link[/quote]
    Last week the Leafs introduced Toskala and gave him a replica jeresy too- it was easy to tell it was a replica because they didn’t even bother to take the “my nhl” tag off of the cuff! Classy those Leafs…

    I’m watching the ASG and it just dawned on me that the hat Paul linked to the other day – an link should be a road hat since the American League is on the road.

    Sorry to interupt the MLB stuff (I saw the Derby and, even as someone who plays for the undeniably orange Gateshead Senators, I wasn’t keen on the BP gear) BUT has no-one noticed the shameful link that Canterbury has forced on Scotland and Ireland this year? I guess they designed the Australia one, then re-colored it for the other two. Although link I’ve seen of the Irish shirt doesn’t have the odd Grey bits – I think that’s probably grip panels, so there’s no way to tell if that’ll be the precise look at the RWC.

    Canterbury’ve been getting steadily worse since they lost out to Adidas on the New Zealand contract (no-one messes with the link – only change in the last 50+ years was from white to black collars). It was bad enough when Scotland ditched link for Navy (if you don’t have to wash them, why not wear white?) but that??? I also notice that South Africa, who last time I checked, wear Canterbury haven’t been announced with that design, their official RWC gear is yet to be unveiled, but I doubt they’ll go for it – they used to wear Nike and wouldn’t let them mess about with their tradition at all.

    Although I just remembered the design Nike have done for England – see below (France will probably have the same in Blue and white) apparently the odd swirl is supposed to confuse the opposition’s perception of the players body position therefore making it easier for Englands backs to break the line, probably one of the most nonsensical claims ever…


    For a quick look at how things have changed in Rugby in the last 14 years, check out this from the BBC.

    It looks like Rugby World Cup ’07 will be a new low for Rugby.

    Ooops, I had meant to link to a photo of my team playing to back up the fact that I am quite attached to Orange,
    here it is.
    In fact the effect would be better if those two had the orange cages and socks, but the trans-atlantic trade in football gear is a bit erratic…

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