New ESPN column today. I’ll add the link when it goes live. tomorrow.
Meanwhile: Great time last night, as Uni Watch auction consultant David Brown and I headed up to the Museum of the City of New York, where we attended the opening reception for Glory Days, an exhibit devoted to New York City baseball from 1947 through 1957. Okay, so this period has been over-mythologized, and the whole “Willie, Mickey, and the Duke” thing gets tiresome, but they had some amazing artifacts on hand (not to mention free hot dogs, Cracker Jack, and beer), so it was totally worth it.
I wasn’t allowed to use a flash, but I still managed to get pretty decent pics, some of the more interesting of which are as follows:
• There were lots of advertising pieces, many of them for cigarettes (always kinda sad to see a cigarette ad from someone who eventually died of a heart attack). Also: a really great uni/equipment-related ad.
• This 1948 Joe DiMaggio jersey had the thickest memorial armband I’ve ever seen. It was added for Babe Ruth, who died that year.
• I found it hilarious that this game-used Mickey Mantle jersey was supplied by a Boston outfitter. Maybe that explains that slightly misshapen-looking chest insignia.
• There was a small display of women’s baseball ephemera — and sure enough, that’s where I spotted A League of Her Own director Penny Marshall, who looked much, much worse than this photo indicates.
• Tons of old programs and yearbooks, as you might expect. Lots of ticket stubs too, like this one from the 1948 All-Star Game (love the use of “Nite” and “Eve’g”), and this one from the 1947 Negro World Series, played at Yankee Stadium. And hey, speaking of the Negro Leagues, did you realize they had their own official ball? I didn’t.
• Lots of Jackie Robinson-related stuff, including a jersey (here’s the tagging), a fascinating plea for tolerance, and an absolutely astonishing letter that Robinson wrote to broadcaster Mel Allen in 1959. It’s eloquent and powerful, and it was easily the most affecting thing I saw in the exhibit. Here’s a larger version, which is easier to read.
• This was meant to be worn as a visor. As you might imagine, I like the color.
• Remember the story that broke a few years ago about the Giants stealing signs during the famous “Shot Heard ’Round the World” game in 1951? This is supposedly the spyglass they used to do it.
• These press passes are almost as cool as a Uni Watch membership card. Ditto for this Knot-Hole Gang I.D. card.
• Most references to the Ebbets Field scoreboard refer to the famous Abe Stark ad along the bottom. But until I saw this photo, I didn’t realize that the h and e in “Schaefer” were rigged up to indicate a hit or error.
• Here’s an Ebbets Field usher’s uniform, complete with team patch and I.D. button.
• Why was this Johnny Podres jersey torn? Read the answer here.
• Gorgeous sleeve patch on this 1951 Yankees jersey.
• Although technically outside of the exhibit’s 1947-57 purview, there was a little nook devoted to the Mets, including a ticket stub from their first home game and Gil Hodges’s 1968 contract (here’s the second page).
And so on. A must-see for New Yorkers (and for member Don Schafer, who’s gonna be in town this weekend), the exhibit runs through the end of the year, and admission is free from 5pm to 9pm today through Saturday. Don’t miss.
Membership Update: Thanks to some truly Herculean labors by Scott Turner (and some not inconsiderable efforts by myself), almost every single uniform number on the Uni Watch membership roster is now linked to a card design. Some of them are real doozies, too, as you can see in the card design gallery (my favorite so far: Mark Mayall‘s shout-out to Roger Bannister, which was a special request we were happy to fulfill). My apologies to Michael King, who I added to the roster weeks ago but whose card design somehow slipped through the cracks until I realized the oversight last night. We’re taking care of it right now, Michael — mea culpa.
Any card that’s been designed but not yet printed will be going to the printer today, and I expect to get many of them out in the mail by Saturday, with the rest by next Monday. This project continues to be really sensational on several different levels (I’m continuing to learn a lot about uni number typefaces) — much more successful than I had envisioned. Thanks again to all, and keep those sign-ups coming.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: There’s a Tennessee track star whose visual signature is her striped socks. Full details here. … Regarding the Israel Baseball League, Nate Budziszewski notes that the Netanya Tigers logo looks a lot like this. ”¦ Bizarre scene yesterday in Madrid, as David Beckham suited up for a practice session of American football. Full photo gallery here. ”¦ Iowa State apparently has new yellow pants (as spotted by Jason Hack). ”¦ Tim Bennett notes that Alan Embree’s uni number appears to be slightly off-center. “It bugged me so much,” he adds, “I missed seeing the game-winning homer in Tuesday night’s game because I was pausing the DVR and taking these pictures with my cell phone.” ”¦ Our friends at No Mas have arranged a really interesting event tonight. Based on the NBA draft, it will feature 500 scratch-off tickets, 105 Warhol-esque portraits and a Ping-Pong ball machine. For full details, check out this article, which I wrote for today’s New York Sun.
The yellow Iowa State pants are terrible. Just when one Big XII team (the Aggies) gets past the shiny, stripeless pants look, another gets bogged down further. There are a lot of cool things that can be done with red and yellow, but ISU’s disaster is not one of them.
Paul-
The link for the Glory Days exhibit goes to a page that does not exist. Just thought you would like to know.
Iowa State is going to completely overhaul their uni’s for the 2008 season. The stripeless yellow pants will only appear this fall…..hopefully.
The Manufacturers Hanover sign on the old scoreboard at Shea also had the light up “H” and “E” for official scoring rulings.
Great photos from the exhibit, Paul. Wish I could go. Just got back from 4 days at Cooperstown, so I’ve done NY for this year.
Yellow uni pants are always a mistake.
I’m still trying to decide on a number for my UniWatch membership card. And waiting for the state legislature to decide on my pay-raise to see what level I can afford.
While we are talking about sports ads. Uniwatch has clearly made me obsessive. Anyone seen the Corona ad on the back of SI from last week? The one with the umpire in beach attire…
Anyway, is it me or does it seem like the two players shown are on the same team, but just with home and road versions of the uniform. Granted, they are solid unis other than solid socks. They are simple road greys and home pinstripes, but they are the same exact color scheme.
Sorry no pics yet.
“solid unis other than solid socks.”
guess I need better adjectives.
what’s up with the Baltimore Orioles home jerseys? I was watching the game last night and couldn’t help but notice how BIG the chest logo is on Roberts…
[quote comment=”109254″]Paul-
The link for the Glory Days exhibit goes to a page that does not exist. Just thought you would like to know.[/quote]
Fixed.
Beckham’s wife has been busy as well. In this pic, it looks like she’s catching the ball, not throwing it.
link
Very odd thing happened this past Saturday when I was at the Mets/A’s game. A guy from the Dairy Council threw out the first pitch, but he stood on the mound about 2-3 feet BEHIND the rubber! It had to be like a 62 or 63 foot throw. (Obviously it was way short) I’ve never seen that before.
Mel Allen was a total racist. I recall my grandmother telling me how she had met him once and he made some anti-semitic remarks.
[quote comment=”109270″]Mel Allen was a total racist. I recall my grandmother telling me how she had met him once and he made some anti-semitic remarks.[/quote]
Not likely since Mel Allen was JEWISH!
The Giants honored Rod Beck the other day by putting a 47 on the back of the mound in a different colored dirt. I don’t know if that was only for the one game. Anyone have any pics?
I posted the David Beckham football uniform picture on Monday at 3 in the comments section. My guess is that picture was taken this past weekend.
As a Mets fan my entire life, I remember the Manufacturers Hanover sign with the light up H and E – LONG before the days of “Diamond Vision”. Of course, when I started watching, it was about 1978 or so, so there weren’t too many “H”‘s for the Mets, but lots of “E”‘s
That letter should be reason enough to wear a #42 jersey every now and again.
Have fun looking like a McDonald’s, Iowa State.
[quote comment=”109278″]That letter should be reason enough to wear a #42 jersey every now and again.[/quote]
If possible could someone either “zoom” in on the letter or type the letter out. It was very difficult for me to read. Thanks.
[quote comment=”109272″][quote comment=”109270″]Mel Allen was a total racist. I recall my grandmother telling me how she had met him once and he made some anti-semitic remarks.[/quote]
Not likely since Mel Allen was JEWISH![/quote]
Sorry to self-refer, but it’s unlikely Mel Allen made any Anit-Semetic remarks. Having been born in the deep south (Birmingham, AL) well before integration and the Civil Rights Movement, he may very well have held some racist opinions.
What I find amazing about the membership card gallery is how right you and Scott have gotten everything. It just emphasizes how poorly done the numbering and lettering on custom authentic and replica jerseys is sometimes. No white border on the Yankees road jersey numbers? Names on the back? No problem!
Maybe you and Scott should start a “jersey back design” business so people with blank authentics or replicas can get their jerseys customized correctly.
The MURTHY 50 UniWatch membership card pictured, in Tequila Sunrise Astros colors, is so ugly it’s cute–kinda like a baby warthog is awwww-worthy.
AWESOME Bannister card. I’m planning on signing up soon and was hoping to use a bib number for Eric Heiden’s Lake Placid exploits, but can’t find any good photos. I think I have a good plan B though.
Anyhoo, new link are out. There’s some text encircling the crest that I can’t quite make out. Looks like it sez 1957-2007, which would mark the 50th anniv. of the Nou Camp.
Here’s what I don’t get about this Israel Baseball League… that Tigers logo actually spells out “Tygrs” in the Hebrew letters… why wouldn’t they use the Hebrew word (which I’m sure is something else entirely)?
[quote comment=”109286″]AWESOME Bannister card. I’m planning on signing up soon and was hoping to use a bib number for Eric Heiden’s Lake Placid exploits, but can’t find any good photos. I think I have a good plan B though.
Anyhoo, new link are out. There’s some text encircling the crest that I can’t quite make out. Looks like it sez 1957-2007, which would mark the 50th anniv. of the Nou Camp.[/quote]
I didn’t think Speed Skaters wore bib numbers. Seems like it would slow you down. At least they don’t wear them on the link
That Negro League All-Star game ticket had some very interesting rain out disclaimers at the bottom. Especially where it said if the Yankees game was rained-out it would be pushed back to the same day as the All-Star game which would then be pushed back to the rain-out day.
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That Beckham photo is from a commercial shoot he did with Reggie Bush. They each took turns playing each other’s version of “football.” The ad is for Addidas and will run next month. There is some behind the scenes video here: link
Aha! Josh Gibson’s home runs were juiced! Or, er, Satchel Paige’s ERA was juiced. Or…oh, never mind.
I didn’t think Speed Skaters wore bib numbers. Seems like it would slow you down. At least they don’t wear them on the front.
Just tracked down a video from the IOC website…no bib numbers anywhere.
Re.:Mantle 1954 Jersey.
Although the Mickey Mantle jersey had “’54”
embroidered on the bottom,I believe that the jersey was made for the 1953 World Series. I have
seen pictures showing the Yankees wearing jerseys
with that particular crest from that series. It
resembles the crest from the home jerseys from 1936-1945.
Buddy Bell and the rest of the coaching staff all have MLB permission to wear number 22 on Sunday as a tribute to the late Buck O’Neill. The Royals and White Sox will also be wearing Negro League uniforms that day, and are giving away a Buck O’Neill Monarchs cap to fans.
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[quote comment=”109272″][quote comment=”109270″]Mel Allen was a total racist. I recall my grandmother telling me how she had met him once and he made some anti-semitic remarks.[/quote]
Not likely since Mel Allen was JEWISH![/quote]
Maybe Mel “converted for the jokes.”
Sorry in advance for the bad Seinfeld reference.
[quote comment=”109303″][quote comment=”109272″][quote comment=”109270″]Mel Allen was a total racist. I recall my grandmother telling me how she had met him once and he made some anti-semitic remarks.[/quote]
Not likely since Mel Allen was JEWISH![/quote]
Maybe Mel “converted for the jokes.”
Sorry in advance for the bad Seinfeld reference.[/quote]
You’r an link
[quote comment=”109303″][quote comment=”109272″][quote comment=”109270″]Mel Allen was a total racist. I recall my grandmother telling me how she had met him once and he made some anti-semitic remarks.[/quote]
Not likely since Mel Allen was JEWISH![/quote]
Maybe Mel “converted for the jokes.”
Sorry in advance for the bad Seinfeld reference.[/quote]
You’re an link
…always kinda sad to see a cigarette ad from someone who eventually died of a link…
Gil Hodges was from my home town, tiny Petersburg, Indiana. This is totally not uni related, but Hodges belongs in the Hall of Fame. He was a staple of those Brooklyn teams in the 1950s. Hodges had 1001 RBI during the 50s, behind only his teammate Duke Snider and more than Yogi Berra and Stan Musial. By the way, all three of those guys are in the Hall of Fame.
Add Hodges’ short but legendary run as the manager of the Miracle Mets and it’s a no-brainer to me. (Yeah, I’m a little biased. The sign as you enter town says “PETERSBURG – HOME OF GIL HODGES” and as you leave town, you cross the Gil Hodges Memorial Bridge. One of our little league teams every year is known as “Hodges’ Dodgers.” Needless to say, he’s well known here, even 35 years after his death.)
An author named Marino Amoruso wrote a link about Hodges 15 years ago or so. They are some great photos in the book. I’ll try to dig around to find my copy. My personal favorite is the picture of Hodges on Petersburg High School’s basketball team. My grandfather is in the picture, too–he played on the team with Hodges.
The book is worth reading for anyone who is a fan of Hodges, the Dodgers, or Brooklyn baseball.
[quote comment=”109273″]The Giants honored Rod Beck the other day by putting a 47 on the back of the mound in a different colored dirt. I don’t know if that was only for the one game. Anyone have any pics?[/quote]
Anytime anyone asks for images from a baseball game (any major sport, really)… you should mention the exact date.
Reason being many of us have MLB.tv (myself included) and can go back into archived games and watch them in their entirety.
So we could easily get a screen cap for you.
Just an FYI! I’m always happy to do it, but I gotta know the exact game…
[quote comment=”109305″][quote comment=”109303″][quote comment=”109272″][quote comment=”109270″]Mel Allen was a total racist. I recall my grandmother telling me how she had met him once and he made some anti-semitic remarks.[/quote]
Not likely since Mel Allen was JEWISH![/quote]
Maybe Mel “converted for the jokes.”
Sorry in advance for the bad Seinfeld reference.[/quote]
You’re an link[/quote]
LOL! “That’s gold, Jerry. Gold!”
Paul I thought you’d be a little more careful, is the name Don S-C-H-A-E-F-E-R as in the body of the article or S-C-H-A-F-E-R as shown on his membership cards. Maybe you should go work for the Giants:)
Paul,
Thanks for the info and pictures from that baseball in NYC exhibit! I just told my Brooklyn born father-in-law about it. He was born in 1946, so he was a kid growng up in that time watching the Dodgers and Yankees. I have never heard him say much about the Giants though…
[quote comment=”109307″][quote comment=”109273″]The Giants honored Rod Beck the other day by putting a 47 on the back of the mound in a different colored dirt. I don’t know if that was only for the one game. Anyone have any pics?[/quote]
Anytime anyone asks for images from a baseball game (any major sport, really)… you should mention the exact date.
Reason being many of us have MLB.tv (myself included) and can go back into archived games and watch them in their entirety.
So we could easily get a screen cap for you.
Just an FYI! I’m always happy to do it, but I gotta know the exact game…[/quote]
I believe it was Monday, June 25th against the Padres. Thanks in advance.
[quote comment=”109025″]is anyone aware of these?
link
since those have been worn over the last few years, i think they are some of the neatest looking jerseys…
[quote comment=”109292″]That Beckham photo is from a commercial shoot he did with Reggie Bush. They each took turns playing each other’s version of “football.” The ad is for Addidas and will run next month. There is some behind the scenes video here: link
i remember you posting that early in the week joey. always neet to see another athlete out of their element. brings me back to this commercial which we discussed a few months back.
link
[quote comment=”109308″][quote comment=”109305″][quote comment=”109303″][quote comment=”109272″][quote comment=”109270″]Mel Allen was a total racist. I recall my grandmother telling me how she had met him once and he made some anti-semitic remarks.[/quote]
Not likely since Mel Allen was JEWISH![/quote]
Maybe Mel “converted for the jokes.”
Sorry in advance for the bad Seinfeld reference.[/quote]
You’re an link[/quote]
LOL! “That’s gold, Jerry. Gold!”[/quote]
“link.”
I’m really digging the Wimbledon officials link. I guess Polo started designing uniforms for the officials and ball boys & girls last year as described in link article.
I found this little gem on eBay – it purports to be a 1966 NFL pennant showing all the team helmets.
link
Not only does it have the Browns’ “CB” logo, but it has a stylized “A” for the Falcons.
A proposed logo, or placeholder? Anybody seen that A before?
[quote comment=”109306″]…always kinda sad to see a cigarette ad from someone who eventually died of a link…
Gil Hodges was from my home town, tiny Petersburg, Indiana. This is totally not uni related, but Hodges belongs in the Hall of Fame. He was a staple of those Brooklyn teams in the 1950s. Hodges had 1001 RBI during the 50s, behind only his teammate Duke Snider and more than Yogi Berra and Stan Musial. By the way, all three of those guys are in the Hall of Fame.
Add Hodges’ short but legendary run as the manager of the Miracle Mets and it’s a no-brainer to me. (Yeah, I’m a little biased. The sign as you enter town says “PETERSBURG – HOME OF GIL HODGES” and as you leave town, you cross the Gil Hodges Memorial Bridge. One of our little league teams every year is known as “Hodges’ Dodgers.” Needless to say, he’s well known here, even 35 years after his death.)
An author named Marino Amoruso wrote a link about Hodges 15 years ago or so. They are some great photos in the book. I’ll try to dig around to find my copy. My personal favorite is the picture of Hodges on Petersburg High School’s basketball team. My grandfather is in the picture, too–he played on the team with Hodges.
The book is worth reading for anyone who is a fan of Hodges, the Dodgers, or Brooklyn baseball.[/quote]
Hey Ryan B,
Petersburg you say. That’s where my dad grew up, and he would have graduated from high school about ’51. When did Hodges graduate, mid ’40’s?
I was just in Petersburg a couple weeks ago for a funeral. Not just a small town, but a small world.
Steve
That’s enough with the Seinfeld comments — thanks.
anyone catch the astros at the brewers last night? around the 6th inning, rick white was on the hill with what looked like a butterfly perched on his cap. might have been just before and after he gave up a grandslam.
Awesome blog today Paul. I’ll be in Manhattan in 2 weeks and will definitely check out the exhibit (and I hate the Yankees!).
[quote comment=”109283″]The MURTHY 50 UniWatch membership card pictured, in Tequila Sunrise Astros colors, is so ugly it’s cute–kinda like a baby warthog is awwww-worthy.[/quote]
So, are throwback jerseys up for consideration as a design (if we ask nicely)? I thought I had finally picked the design i want, but that would throw that totally into chaos.
So last night the Cubs had a Michael Barrett jersey giveaway day. (There’s also a bobble head giveaway on July 1st to the first 10,000 fans)
Last night, the giveaway was a Majestic Michael Barrett 2007 home jersey to 100 random winners. Did anyone go to this game? That’s an interesting promotion. I wonder if the Marlins do something like that. Basically everyone at the game would get a jersey!
Love the Ebbets Field reference, as well as the one about Shea and the Manufacturer’s Hanover sign (I’d never heard that).
I remember when Camden Yards went up, they made reference to Ebbets and the Schaefer sign, since the “THE SUN” (local Baltimore paper) sign at the top of the main scoreboard also has and H and E that light up separately.
Any other parks do this?
I didn’t think Speed Skaters wore bib numbers. Seems like it would slow you down. At least they don’t wear them on the front
They wear armbands, I believe (red or white), depending on whether they start in the inside or outside lane on the track. Short-track speed skaters wear number decals on their helmets.
[quote comment=”109330″][quote comment=”109283″]The MURTHY 50 UniWatch membership card pictured, in Tequila Sunrise Astros colors, is so ugly it’s cute–kinda like a baby warthog is awwww-worthy.[/quote]
So, are throwback jerseys up for consideration as a design (if we ask nicely)? I thought I had finally picked the design i want, but that would throw that totally into chaos.[/quote]
Hey Murthy, how come you didn’t go with link Astros uniform back from ’76?
[quote comment=”109281″][quote comment=”109272″][quote comment=”109270″]Mel Allen was a total racist. I recall my grandmother telling me how she had met him once and he made some anti-semitic remarks.[/quote]
Not likely since Mel Allen was JEWISH![/quote]
Sorry to self-refer, but it’s unlikely Mel Allen made any Anit-Semetic remarks. Having been born in the deep south (Birmingham, AL) well before integration and the Civil Rights Movement, he may very well have held some racist opinions.[/quote]
My bad. I just confirmed with my Mom, the quick story is that my Grandmother encountered him in the city one day and he was very nasty. He did not make an anti-Semitic remark, but she was upset because of his rudeness. So either way you slice it, he was no angel.
Off topic.
Someone’s posted a rundown with photos of the link displayed at the NHL Entry draft.
That Negro Leagues All-Star ticket is interesting. No indication when the game was to start. It was just assumed you’d know.
Any idea if there might be a transcript available of the Mel Allen remarks that inspired Robinson’s letter?
This morning I took advantage of one of the fine advertisers on UniWatch Blog and designed and ordered a jersey for myself as manager of my fantasy baseball team, the Paisanos. I’ll post a pic when it arrives.
At Camden Yards the “H” and “E” in link light up to indicate hit or error.
[quote comment=”109327″]anyone catch the astros at the brewers last night? around the 6th inning, rick white was on the hill with what looked like a butterfly perched on his cap. might have been just before and after he gave up a grandslam.[/quote]
They showed it on Sportscenter.
It was a dragonfly.. and it was still there after the pitch
[quote comment=”109316″][quote comment=”109025″]is anyone aware of these?
link
since those have been worn over the last few years, i think they are some of the neatest looking jerseys…
[quote comment=”109292″]That Beckham photo is from a commercial shoot he did with Reggie Bush. They each took turns playing each other’s version of “football.” The ad is for Addidas and will run next month. There is some behind the scenes video here: link
i remember you posting that early in the week joey. always neet to see another athlete out of their element. brings me back to this commercial which we discussed a few months back.
link
Very cool commercial. I like this one too:
link
Look at 00:19. They show the back of his hockey jersey, and it looks like it says “LE BO” haha
[quote comment=”109339″][quote comment=”109281″][quote comment=”109272″][quote comment=”109270″]Mel Allen was a total racist. I recall my grandmother telling me how she had met him once and he made some anti-semitic remarks.[/quote]
Not likely since Mel Allen was JEWISH![/quote]
Sorry to self-refer, but it’s unlikely Mel Allen made any Anit-Semetic remarks. Having been born in the deep south (Birmingham, AL) well before integration and the Civil Rights Movement, he may very well have held some racist opinions.[/quote]
My bad. I just confirmed with my Mom, the quick story is that my Grandmother encountered him in the city one day and he was very nasty. He did not make an anti-Semitic remark, but she was upset because of his rudeness. So either way you slice it, he was no angel.[/quote]
not only that but wasnt it allen who, in the movie *61, referred the mick to the doctor for that “shot that will fix you right up!”. resulting in a huge open sore?
“how ’bout that!”
[quote comment=”109326″]That’s enough with the Seinfeld comments — thanks.[/quote]
Sorry Paul, just got a little carried away.
Back on point…Is there any way you could “zoom†in on the letter that Jackie Robinson wrote or type the letter out. It was very difficult for me to read. Thanks.
Gang,
I checked with Paul first on this, and he was cool with it. I have a 1991 New York Mets jersey (no number or name, just a blank) … It’s the road jersey shown link and since I’m a Marlins fan, I’m taking a shot in the dark, but if anyone here has a Marlins jersey and wants a Mets jersey, I’d make a swap. In fact, I’d probably swap for anything LOL (sorry Mets fans). I grew up a Mets fan, but moved to Florida and was there for the birth of the team, and I’ve been a Marlin fan since 1993.
Anyways, if folks are interested at all, let me know at link … it is an authentic jersey that I got for my college graduation…the stitching is nice, and I’ve worn it like twice on jersey days. I do understand the odds of a Marlins fan here (or anywhere) is slim, but I thought I’d take a shot. I can take digital pictures of it when I get home if need be.
Frank
[quote comment=”109325″]
Petersburg you say. That’s where my dad grew up, and he would have graduated from high school about ’51. When did Hodges graduate, mid ’40’s?[/quote]
I believe Hodges graduated in 1941. He was born in 1924.
And yes, Petersburg is a small town, but you correctly do show that it is indeed a small world out there.
Speaking of Hodges…link a pic of Hodges with three of his fellow inaugural Mets teammates in 1962. Hodges is second from the left. Anyone recognize the other three (without cheating? :P)
And they /all/ know how to wear a pair of stirrups.
[quote comment=”109330″]So, are throwback jerseys up for consideration as a design (if we ask nicely)?[/quote]
If you ask v-e-r-y nicely, and if you can accept that the answer may turn out to be, “No.”… The tequila sunrise was a fun challenge that we couldn’t resist, but we’re actually in pretty good shape right now for many vintage MLB designs — as you can see in the gallery, a few people have gotten link. And vintage NFL is generally pretty easy (as you can see, we honored a request for an link). NHL can be trickier.
So yeah, go ahead and ask — worst that can happen is that we’ll say no.
Please DON’T ask for: minor leagues, CFL, NBA, soccer, rugby, NCAA — those are all out of bounds for now.
[quote comment=”109358″][quote comment=”109325″]
Petersburg you say. That’s where my dad grew up, and he would have graduated from high school about ’51. When did Hodges graduate, mid ’40’s?[/quote]
I believe Hodges graduated in 1941. He was born in 1924.
And yes, Petersburg is a small town, but you correctly do show that it is indeed a small world out there.
Speaking of Hodges…link a pic of Hodges with three of his fellow inaugural Mets teammates in 1962. Hodges is second from the left. Anyone recognize the other three (without cheating? :P)
And they /all/ know how to wear a pair of stirrups.[/quote]
I got Don Zimmer and Roger Craig (3rd and 4th from left, respectively). Can’t get the far left.
[quote comment=”109351″][quote comment=”109326″]That’s enough with the Seinfeld comments — thanks.[/quote]
Sorry Paul, just got a little carried away.
Back on point…Is there any way you could “zoom†in on the letter that Jackie Robinson wrote or type the letter out. It was very difficult for me to read. Thanks.[/quote]
Did you click where it says “larger version”? That one’s very clear and legible.
My wife just brought home a replica of the 1951 St. Louis Browns’ cap. It is a Twins Enterprises 100% cotton version from the Cooperstown Collection. My question is what exactly is the benefit to having a wool cap versus cotton? I have had replica versions in wool and found them much less comfortable than these, is it strictly a matter of durability?
[quote comment=”109360″]
I got Don Zimmer and Roger Craig (3rd and 4th from left, respectively). Can’t get the far left.[/quote]
Far left is a player I honestly didn’t know played for the Mets…and I’m a Mets fan. He’s thought of by me, at least, with a different team through most of the 50s.
[quote comment=”109362″][quote comment=”109351″][quote comment=”109326″]That’s enough with the Seinfeld comments — thanks.[/quote]
Sorry Paul, just got a little carried away.
Back on point…Is there any way you could “zoom†in on the letter that Jackie Robinson wrote or type the letter out. It was very difficult for me to read. Thanks.[/quote]
Did you click where it says “larger version”? That one’s very clear and legible.[/quote]
I did but it was still a little fuzzy for me…could be my system, but I couldn’t read it.
[quote comment=”109286″]AWESOME Bannister card. I’m planning on signing up soon and was hoping to use a bib number for Eric Heiden’s Lake Placid exploits, but can’t find any good photos. I think I have a good plan B though.[/quote]
I don’t know how they were displayed but I can tell you that Eric Heiden’s competition number throughout the 1980 Olympics was #71.
FYI, I found this information from volume 2 of the Official Report which can be found online link.
(I know this ’cause I’m a member of the link)
[quote comment=”109359″]NHL can be trickier.
[/quote]
Paul crushed my dreams of an NY Islanders Fisherman-esque card.
Ok, Scott did due to the ridiculous lettering and numbering font, but my dreams were dashed. ;o)
Still trying to decide what I want on my card, Paul. Sorry for the delay in signing up. As a side note, can we get those T-shirts in big sizes? XXL or XXXL?
Shaftman – here’s a transcription of the body of the letter:
I just heard your interview with Mike Wallace in which you said I had become a crusader.
Your reference to ‘tact and discretion’ sounds so much like those who counsel that the Negro to be liked must be humorous, patient and humble . . . . that a Negro American, regardless of what he does in a particular field, just to be liked must cater to the whims and humors of other people. I have news for you, Mel. The new Negro is no longer grinning when he isn’t tickled and neither does he scratch when he doesn’t itch. You, Mel, and a lot of other people had better dig this fact and apply it to the 3/4’s of the world who are colored people. Your story about Joe Louis leaves me completely cold. I have never heard Joe profess himself to be the leader of the Negro race, nor have I ever made any such claim. Furthermore, I have never called Joe at his camp or any other place and I challenge you to prove that I did.
Lastly, you imply that I was foolish to take up some of the issues I did because, ‘they didn’t amount to anything.’ They may not have meant anything to you and to your friends, Mel, but they have meant a great deal to me and many of the people I know. I think you know, Mel, that I have to do things I believe to be right and not just to please you or anyone else. And I think this is true of any other man, Negro or white, who calls himself a man.
[quote comment=”109307″][quote comment=”109273″]The Giants honored Rod Beck the other day by putting a 47 on the back of the mound in a different colored dirt. I don’t know if that was only for the one game. Anyone have any pics?[/quote]
Anytime anyone asks for images from a baseball game (any major sport, really)… you should mention the exact date.
Reason being many of us have MLB.tv (myself included) and can go back into archived games and watch them in their entirety.
So we could easily get a screen cap for you.
Just an FYI! I’m always happy to do it, but I gotta know the exact game…[/quote]
Hey Christopher,
What software do you use to get screen grabs from mlb.tv? I’ve tried using ScreenHunter which is a free program from download.com, but when I use it I just get a black screen. Let me know, thanks.
That paper visor reminds me of the one worn by Vince Lombardi during the first Super Bowl.
[quote comment=”109381″]Shaftman – here’s a transcription of the body of the letter:
I just heard your interview with Mike Wallace in which you said I had become a crusader.
Your reference to ‘tact and discretion’ sounds so much like those who counsel that the Negro to be liked must be humorous, patient and humble . . . . that a Negro American, regardless of what he does in a particular field, just to be liked must cater to the whims and humors of other people. I have news for you, Mel. The new Negro is no longer grinning when he isn’t tickled and neither does he scratch when he doesn’t itch. You, Mel, and a lot of other people had better dig this fact and apply it to the 3/4’s of the world who are colored people. Your story about Joe Louis leaves me completely cold. I have never heard Joe profess himself to be the leader of the Negro race, nor have I ever made any such claim. Furthermore, I have never called Joe at his camp or any other place and I challenge you to prove that I did.
Lastly, you imply that I was foolish to take up some of the issues I did because, ‘they didn’t amount to anything.’ They may not have meant anything to you and to your friends, Mel, but they have meant a great deal to me and many of the people I know. I think you know, Mel, that I have to do things I believe to be right and not just to please you or anyone else. And I think this is true of any other man, Negro or white, who calls himself a man.[/quote]
Thank you.
Texas A&M switched to Adidas from Nike this year. Here’ some details on the deal given by Adidas. link
Whether you like Adidas or Nike more, you have to admit that this was a great business move for the school.
[quote comment=”109291″]link[/quote]
the ivy and the FBI??
[quote comment=”109402″][quote comment=”109291″]link[/quote]
the ivy and the FBI??[/quote]
My guess is the [sarcasm] tag should have been on regarding the logo creep and the purple in the uni.
In response to two previous posts;
The Steelers wear yellow pants, and its totally cool.
The two teams in the Corona add are the Cubs and the Dodgers (the older version w/o names) which I assume were picked because the unis were sufficiently generic that no license fees had to be paid.
[quote comment=”109402″][quote comment=”109291″]link[/quote]
the ivy and the FBI??[/quote]
….beat me to it.
Embree’s 41 does look bad, but it is centered, from what I can tell from the photos. Far left edge of the 4 is even with the right edge of the first letter, and far right edge of the 1 is even with the left edge of the last letter. It’s a horrible number to try to center. They really should move it a little to the left, but it is centered.
The last player in my link picture, or rather the first, from the left, is Frank Thomas, the well-known Pirates OF from the 50s. Then, continuing to the right, is Hodges, Don Zimmer, and Roger Craig, as noted by Stuby.
[quote comment=”109382″][quote comment=”109307″][quote comment=”109273″]The Giants honored Rod Beck the other day by putting a 47 on the back of the mound in a different colored dirt. I don’t know if that was only for the one game. Anyone have any pics?[/quote]
Anytime anyone asks for images from a baseball game (any major sport, really)… you should mention the exact date.
Reason being many of us have MLB.tv (myself included) and can go back into archived games and watch them in their entirety.
So we could easily get a screen cap for you.
Just an FYI! I’m always happy to do it, but I gotta know the exact game…[/quote]
Hey Christopher,
What software do you use to get screen grabs from mlb.tv? I’ve tried using ScreenHunter which is a free program from download.com, but when I use it I just get a black screen. Let me know, thanks.[/quote]
MLB.tv uses Windows Media Player. You need to configure your WMP to not use overlays. Right-click the screen > Options > Performance > in “Video Acceleration” > Advanced.
In that box unclick “Use Overlay”. You don’t want to use overlays.
You may have to restart MLB.tv and WMP.
Then you can capure with anything, including the ol’ ALT-PRINT SCREEN.
(Disclaimer: don’t call me if this goofs up your WMP. If things don’t work you can probably re-set it. It works for me, that’s all I’m saying)
More info here:
link
[quote comment=”109415″][quote comment=”109382″][quote comment=”109307″][quote comment=”109273″]The Giants honored Rod Beck the other day by putting a 47 on the back of the mound in a different colored dirt. I don’t know if that was only for the one game. Anyone have any pics?[/quote]
Anytime anyone asks for images from a baseball game (any major sport, really)… you should mention the exact date.
Reason being many of us have MLB.tv (myself included) and can go back into archived games and watch them in their entirety.
So we could easily get a screen cap for you.
Just an FYI! I’m always happy to do it, but I gotta know the exact game…[/quote]
Hey Christopher,
What software do you use to get screen grabs from mlb.tv? I’ve tried using ScreenHunter which is a free program from download.com, but when I use it I just get a black screen. Let me know, thanks.[/quote]
MLB.tv uses Windows Media Player. You need to configure your WMP to not use overlays. Right-click the screen > Options > Performance > in “Video Acceleration” > Advanced.
In that box unclick “Use Overlay”. You don’t want to use overlays.
You may have to restart MLB.tv and WMP.
Then you can capure with anything, including the ol’ ALT-PRINT SCREEN.
(Disclaimer: don’t call me if this goofs up your WMP. If things don’t work you can probably re-set it. It works for me, that’s all I’m saying)
More info here:
link[/quote]
alternatively, if you open another media player and have any old video or stream paused in it, THEN open the mlb.tv stream in WMP, you can usually PrintScreen off of that.
The key is to have some other video open first, this prevents any other media apps from using overlays
[quote comment=”109390″]Texas A&M switched to Adidas from Nike this year. Here’ some details on the deal given by Adidas.
link
Whether you like Adidas or Nike more, you have to admit that this was a great business move for the school.[/quote]
So then…. one would have to assume that Oregon’s deal with Nike is MUCH better since they have soooo many different unis and are obviously not coming out of Oregon’s pocket. Wonder what the Longhorn deal includes….
[quote comment=”109417″]
alternatively, if you open another media player and have any old video or stream paused in it, THEN open the mlb.tv stream in WMP, you can usually PrintScreen off of that.
The key is to have some other video open first, this prevents any other media apps from using overlays[/quote]
Look on the ‘Net for a free program called “ZapGrab”. It is a little application that copies images from any program. All you do is highlight the image you want and then paste it into MS Paint or whatever.
I use it for all sorts of grabs on Flash-based online press conferences (like the Washington Capitals’ jersey unveiling).
It’s super-easy to use, and it is way easier than configuring a program or opening multiple video feeds.
[quote comment=”109407″]In response to two previous posts;
The Steelers wear yellow pants, and its totally cool.quote]
The Packers wear yellow pants, too. But I’d love to see them wear white pants at home with the green jerseys. I’m sure this will never happen.
[quote comment=”109379″][As a side note, can we get those T-shirts in big sizes? XXL or XXXL?[/quote]
The ringers go up to XXL; the solids go up to XXXL.
[quote comment=”109424″][quote comment=”109407″]In response to two previous posts;
The Steelers wear yellow pants, and its totally cool.quote]
The Packers wear yellow pants, too. But I’d love to see them wear white pants at home with the green jerseys. I’m sure this will never happen.[/quote]
The difference here is stripes…
curtis grandeson discusses the challenges of staying cool in his link today. included is discussion of majestic cool base jerseys, and an odd place to store your vegetables.
Paul,
on your Toronto visit, make sure you visit ‘the Zanzibar’. A Rod did, you’ll see why..
[quote comment=”109424″][quote comment=”109407″]In response to two previous posts;
The Steelers wear yellow pants, and its totally cool.quote]
The Packers wear yellow pants, too. But I’d love to see them wear white pants at home with the green jerseys. I’m sure this will never happen.[/quote]
I always feel that the helmet should match either the jersey or the pants. I hate it when a team has three different colors for the helmet, jersey and pants. So as a Packer fan, I say please no white pants.
[quote comment=”109427″][quote comment=”109379″][As a side note, can we get those T-shirts in big sizes? XXL or XXXL?[/quote]
The ringers go up to XXL; the solids go up to XXXL.[/quote]
The XXL solid I got is very nice and also bigger than most XXL T-shirts, FWIW.
[quote comment=”109436″][quote comment=”109424″][quote comment=”109407″]In response to two previous posts;
The Steelers wear yellow pants, and its totally cool.quote]
The Packers wear yellow pants, too. But I’d love to see them wear white pants at home with the green jerseys. I’m sure this will never happen.[/quote]
I always feel that the helmet should match either the jersey or the pants. I hate it when a team has three different colors for the helmet, jersey and pants. So as a Packer fan, I say please no white pants.[/quote]
The Steelers yellow pants don’t match the jersey or the helmet. Still, by all objective standards, the Steelers uniforms are totally cool.
[quote comment=”109413″]The last player in my link picture, or rather the first, from the left, is Frank Thomas, the well-known Pirates OF from the 50s. Then, continuing to the right, is Hodges, Don Zimmer, and Roger Craig, as noted by Stuby.[/quote]During the 1962 season, New York Mets centerfielder Richie Ashburn and Venezuelan shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, “I got it! I got it!” only to run into the 160-pound Chacón, who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, “¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!” which is “I’ve got it” in Spanish. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by 200-pound leftfielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish
Mike Churchill — thanks for the link. A very cool find.
[quote comment=”109432″]Paul,
on your Toronto visit, make sure you visit ‘the Zanzibar’. A Rod did, you’ll see why..[/quote]
Yeah, I hit it before i hit the Hockey Hall of Fame while in Toronto…..Priorities man!!!!
does anyone have a shot of the White Sox uniform demo’s from the 1980’s. I beleive there were five styles that were put out and non made the cut. I have only seen them in black and white..any help would be great. thank you
[quote comment=”109439″][quote comment=”109436″][quote comment=”109424″][quote comment=”109407″]In response to two previous posts;
The Steelers wear yellow pants, and its totally cool.quote]
The Packers wear yellow pants, too. But I’d love to see them wear white pants at home with the green jerseys. I’m sure this will never happen.[/quote]
I always feel that the helmet should match either the jersey or the pants. I hate it when a team has three different colors for the helmet, jersey and pants. So as a Packer fan, I say please no white pants.[/quote]
The Steelers yellow pants don’t match the jersey or the helmet. Still, by all objective standards, the Steelers uniforms are totally cool.[/quote]
No, but the Steelers’ helmets match their jerseys, which is what he said.
I agree with him – ideally, helmets should match the pants (Jets, 49ers, Packers, etc). If a team wants a dark helmet, that helmet should match the jersey color. Anything else is too busy for my taste.
The Giro d’Italia race promoters, who supplied Andy Schleck with his white skinsuit as the young riders’ leader, printed the ‘CSC’ logo upside down on the leg.
They made the same mistake on both legs
[quote comment=”109446″][quote comment=”109432″]Paul,
on your Toronto visit, make sure you visit ‘the Zanzibar’. A Rod did, you’ll see why..[/quote]
Yeah, I hit it before i hit the Hockey Hall of Fame while in Toronto…..Priorities man!!!![/quote]
damn straight ‘mofo’. They have…good food. You can get a taste of various countries from around the world. And remember, no sex in the champagne room.! Unless you make $25mil/yr.
Forca Barca!! Glad to see another fan on here. Check out the interesting article describing the background behind the unifrom design and the Nou Camp Anniversary Here
The other day on his radio show, Tony Kornheiser was really slamming the Caps new uniforms. In a quick summary, he felt that the older red white and blue uniforms were far superior to the ones just unveiled. He also made an interesting but debatable point: he felt that the eagle sleeve patch is a derivative of the DC United eagle logo. Any comments?
[quote comment=”109456″][quote comment=”109446″][quote comment=”109432″]Paul,
on your Toronto visit, make sure you visit ‘the Zanzibar’. A Rod did, you’ll see why..[/quote]
Yeah, I hit it before i hit the Hockey Hall of Fame while in Toronto…..Priorities man!!!![/quote]
damn straight ‘mofo’. They have…good food. You can get a taste of various countries from around the world. And remember, no sex in the champagne room.! Unless you make $25mil/yr.[/quote]
You could do a post on their uni’s or lack there of..
[quote comment=”109453″]
The Giro d’Italia race promoters, who supplied Andy Schleck with his white skinsuit as the young riders’ leader, printed the ‘CSC’ logo upside down on the leg.
Was it the promoters or was it Team CSC? Traditionally the promoters only provide the jersey, whether the team provides the rider with shorts of a matching color is up to them. Notice how Alessandro Petacchi’s shorts don’t quite match his link in the same race.
[quote comment=”109451″]does anyone have a shot of the White Sox uniform demo’s from the 1980’s. I beleive there were five styles that were put out and non made the cut. I have only seen them in black and white..any help would be great. thank you[/quote]
How funny… I was JUST going to post them a few days ago. I have a White Sox Encyclopedia that has them… I just have to scan ’em.
Give me a little bit. If not today, check back tomorrow.
(Unless someone else has them?)
If you check out link you will notice the banner that runs across showing all teams’ logos has been updated. New Capitals logo, Bruins, Blue Jackets, I don’t think the Wild ever had Minnesota Wild over top their logo, it’s there now anyways.
[quote comment=”109452″][quote comment=”109439″][quote comment=”109436″][quote comment=”109424″][quote comment=”109407″]In response to two previous posts;
The Steelers wear yellow pants, and its totally cool.quote]
The Packers wear yellow pants, too. But I’d love to see them wear white pants at home with the green jerseys. I’m sure this will never happen.[/quote]
I always feel that the helmet should match either the jersey or the pants. I hate it when a team has three different colors for the helmet, jersey and pants. So as a Packer fan, I say please no white pants.[/quote]
The Steelers yellow pants don’t match the jersey or the helmet. Still, by all objective standards, the Steelers uniforms are totally cool.[/quote]
No, but the Steelers’ helmets match their jerseys, which is what he said.
I agree with him – ideally, helmets should match the pants (Jets, 49ers, Packers, etc). If a team wants a dark helmet, that helmet should match the jersey color. Anything else is too busy for my taste.[/quote]
Exactly. I think the worst case of non matching equipment is link White helmet, brown jerseys and yellow pants. Put them in white pants and they look a million times better and probably wouldn’t have been on SI’s list.
Unrelated question: I am a bona fide 7 3/8 in the New Era wool 5950 hats. Seeing that they are increasingly hard to find, I want to improve my odds of finding a well-fitting hat on eBay. Knowing that wool hats can slightly stretch and shrink when wet, can anybody suggest an appropriate “window” of hat sizes for me?
First,,,Got my membership card and it’s so cool!
Thanks for the great work.
Mel Allen was a complex man. I have heard bout his civil rights views and am sad to read that eloquent letter.
He was one of the best announcers ever. I met him once (in the stadium press box) and he was very nice. I still have that autograph.
I played in a band for many years called Goin’ Goin’ Gone…our dream was to have Mel Allen introduce us.
Any of the Uni-faithful going to the No-Mas event tonight? I’ll be there. If there’s anyone who wants to grab a bite to eat or a drink beforehand, it might be fun if someone has a suggestion on where to meet… (I never go to that area of town…damn hipsters!)
[quote comment=”109455″]
They made the same mistake on both legs[/quote]
At least they’re consistent
1980’s “demo” uniforms for the Chicago White Sox:
link
[quote comment=”109477″]1980’s “demo” uniforms for the Chicago White Sox:
link[/quote]
Just so much wrong there!
Great find Christopher!! Thank you.
[quote comment=”109480″]Great find Christopher!! Thank you.[/quote]
Another one that I am not sure if people have seen (since lately there seems to be a movement to collect every shot of the White Sox shorts unis):
link
Jim Rivera modeling the shorts. Striped sox and all…
[quote comment=”109478″][quote comment=”109477″]1980’s “demo” uniforms for the Chicago White Sox:
link[/quote]
Just so much wrong there![/quote]
So much that none of the “5 finalists” became their uniform the next year :)
[quote comment=”109477″]1980’s “demo” uniforms for the Chicago White Sox:
link[/quote]
YUCK! those white stirrups are terrible!
my favourite is the fourth one… with the dark pants and the stray line off the neck. the fifth one makes me think of the astros.
[quote comment=”109464″][quote comment=”109453″]
The Giro d’Italia race promoters, who supplied Andy Schleck with his white skinsuit as the young riders’ leader, printed the ‘CSC’ logo upside down on the leg.
Was it the promoters or was it Team CSC? Traditionally the promoters only provide the jersey, whether the team provides the rider with shorts of a matching color is up to them. Notice how Alessandro Petacchi’s shorts don’t quite match his link in the same race.[/quote]
Could it be possible that he actually put his shorts on backwards? If the insignia is upside down on both legs, flip it around and they are both rightside up.
[quote comment=”109487″][quote comment=”109477″]1980’s “demo” uniforms for the Chicago White Sox:
link[/quote]
YUCK! those white stirrups are terrible!
my favourite is the fourth one… with the dark pants and the stray line off the neck. the fifth one makes me think of the astros.[/quote]
Notice they’re all 39? What’s that about?
In case anyone else cares, here are some hand-drawn entries into the 1981 contest the White Sox ran to re-design their uniform:
link
link
Look at Bill Belichick’s shorts in this picture, next to the Reebok symbol is a BB.
[quote comment=”109477″]1980’s “demo” uniforms for the Chicago White Sox:
link[/quote]
wow… thats a great find! unearthing pics like this are just what the uniwatch dr. orders…
[quote comment=”109306″]…always kinda sad to see a cigarette ad from someone who eventually died of a link…
Gil Hodges was from my home town, tiny Petersburg, Indiana. This is totally not uni related, but Hodges belongs in the Hall of Fame. He was a staple of those Brooklyn teams in the 1950s. Hodges had 1001 RBI during the 50s, behind only his teammate Duke Snider and more than Yogi Berra and Stan Musial. By the way, all three of those guys are in the Hall of Fame.
Add Hodges’ short but legendary run as the manager of the Miracle Mets and it’s a no-brainer to me. [/quote]
Hear, hear.
When I coached baseball in the PSAL from 2003-05, I wore a link on my jersey in honor of Hodges. When the team put our hands together at the beginning or end of a game, or at the end of practice, we’d yell out “FOURTEEN!” I even retired the number when I first started the program; no one wore it when I coached there. (The school un-retired it after I left, but it’s a despicably corrupt place run by a bunch of criminals anyway, thus unworthy of Gil’s legacy.)
[quote comment=”109491″]In case anyone else cares, here are some hand-drawn entries into the 1981 contest the White Sox ran to re-design their uniform:
link[/quote]
yeah, the link doesn’t work…
one of the unis looks almost like an Astros uni from 1980…
[quote comment=”109458″]The other day on his radio show, Tony Kornheiser was really slamming the Caps new uniforms. In a quick summary, he felt that the older red white and blue uniforms were far superior to the ones just unveiled. He also made an interesting but debatable point: he felt that the eagle sleeve patch is a derivative of the DC United eagle logo. Any comments?
[/quote]
I’m happy to see any other North American sport deriving something from a soccer team!
[quote comment=”109506″][quote comment=”109491″]In case anyone else cares, here are some hand-drawn entries into the 1981 contest the White Sox ran to re-design their uniform:
link[/quote]
yeah, the link doesn’t work…
one of the unis looks almost like an Astros uni from 1980…[/quote]
Site doesn’t allow deep-links. Must not have been updated since about 2002. Take link, scroll down and click on “Sox Uniform Guide” to get there. Pics are worth it, especially the red pants proposal.
[quote comment=”109506″][quote comment=”109491″]In case anyone else cares, here are some hand-drawn entries into the 1981 contest the White Sox ran to re-design their uniform:
link[/quote]
yeah, the link doesn’t work…
one of the unis looks almost like an Astros uni from 1980…[/quote]
Try this one:
link
[quote comment=”109440″][quote comment=”109413″]The last player in my link picture, or rather the first, from the left, is Frank Thomas, the well-known Pirates OF from the 50s. Then, continuing to the right, is Hodges, Don Zimmer, and Roger Craig, as noted by Stuby.[/quote]During the 1962 season, New York Mets centerfielder Richie Ashburn and Venezuelan shortstop Elio Chacón found themselves colliding in the outfield. When Ashburn went for a catch, he would scream, “I got it! I got it!” only to run into the 160-pound Chacón, who spoke only Spanish. Ashburn learned to yell, “¡Yo la tengo! ¡Yo la tengo!” which is “I’ve got it” in Spanish. In a later game, Ashburn happily saw Chacón backing off. He relaxed, positioned himself to catch the ball, and was instead run over by 200-pound leftfielder Frank Thomas, who understood no Spanish[/quote]
Hence the band name Yo La Tengo!
link
Found some color shots of the 1981 White Sox demo’s…trying to figure out how to post them..give me a sec..
These demo’s came out after the 1981 season, giving the vote to fans. Color shots of the three that lost out Here
1980’s “demo†uniforms for the Chicago White Sox:
link…
Just so much wrong there!
So much that none of the “5 finalists†became their uniform the next year :)
Actually, there was a “winner”; the one that was the second from the left. IIRC, the rules of the contest included a provision that a design could be tweaked prior to adoption. Note the broad center band with “SOX” inside it, and the striping on the stirrups. All the Sox did was reverse the colors; red stirrups with white, navy trimmed stripes and white sanitaries. They also took out the extra thick band of color, making the jersey a predominately white one.
While watching the Astros game today, I noticed that Lance Berkman has Texas flags on the interior portions of his batting gloves. They are on the wrist portion of the batting gloves. We all know about the placement of flags, nicknames on cleats, and huge patches and names on gloves but what about batting gloves? Berkman can’t be the only one can he?
[quote comment=”109519″]These demo’s came out after the 1981 season, giving the vote to fans. Color shots of the three that lost out Here[/quote]
The one on the far right is unique and looks pretty good.
Any insight as to why all demo jerseys are using #39?
[quote comment=”109518″]Found some color shots of the 1981 White Sox demo’s…trying to figure out how to post them..give me a sec..[/quote]
DUDE!!!!!!!!!!
serious fodder for an entry!
i wonder how many teams in any sport have actually gone to production with a handful of prototype uniforms prior to final selection?
Column, Mr. Lukas?
[quote comment=”109466″]If you check out link you will notice the banner that runs across showing all teams’ logos has been updated. New Capitals logo, Bruins, Blue Jackets, I don’t think the Wild ever had Minnesota Wild over top their logo, it’s there now anyways.[/quote]
And it looks like link on the Islander’s page perhaps…
[quote comment=”109530″][quote comment=”109466″]If you check out link you will notice the banner that runs across showing all teams’ logos has been updated. New Capitals logo, Bruins, Blue Jackets, I don’t think the Wild ever had Minnesota Wild over top their logo, it’s there now anyways.[/quote]
And it looks like link on the Islander’s page perhaps…[/quote]
Those are practice jerseys.
Paul, If your ever in Philly you should come by Mitchell and Ness’s offices..would love to show you around!!
[quote comment=”109530″]And it looks like link on the Islander’s page perhaps…[/quote]
Those are practice Jerseys. Note the location of the Reebok logo.
[quote comment=”109526″][quote comment=”109518″]Found some color shots of the 1981 White Sox demo’s…trying to figure out how to post them..give me a sec..[/quote]
DUDE!!!!!!!!!!
serious fodder for an entry!
i wonder how many teams in any sport have actually gone to production with a handful of prototype uniforms prior to final selection?[/quote]
I own a rejected prototype for the Reds that was created in conjunction with the uniform change that was instituted in 1999. I will take some photos of it tonight.
[quote comment=”109488″][quote comment=”109464″][quote comment=”109453″]
The Giro d’Italia race promoters, who supplied Andy Schleck with his white skinsuit as the young riders’ leader, printed the ‘CSC’ logo upside down on the leg.
Was it the promoters or was it Team CSC? Traditionally the promoters only provide the jersey, whether the team provides the rider with shorts of a matching color is up to them. Notice how Alessandro Petacchi’s shorts don’t quite match his link in the same race.[/quote]
Could it be possible that he actually put his shorts on backwards? If the insignia is upside down on both legs, flip it around and they are both rightside up.[/quote]
NO
[quote comment=”109533″][quote comment=”109530″]And it looks like link on the Islander’s page perhaps…[/quote]
Those are practice Jerseys. Note the location of the Reebok logo.[/quote]
That’s what I was thinking. They definitely have that practice jersey/sweater look.
[quote comment=”109522″]While watching the Astros game today, I noticed that Lance Berkman has Texas flags on the interior portions of his batting gloves. They are on the wrist portion of the batting gloves. We all know about the placement of flags, nicknames on cleats, and huge patches and names on gloves but what about batting gloves? Berkman can’t be the only one can he?[/quote]
When Jason Giambi was an Oakland A, ESPN’s own Dan Patrick lobbied for Giambi to start on the AL All-Star team. When Giambi got the honor, he had “DP” featured on the Velcro straps of his batting gloves.
[quote comment=”109519″]These demo’s came out after the 1981 season, giving the vote to fans. Color shots of the three that lost out Here[/quote]
You are my eternal hero for finding these! Where did you find this photo?
In case you haven’t all figured it out already, today’s ESPN column got pushed back to tomorrow.
[quote comment=”109542″]In case you haven’t all figured it out already, today’s ESPN column got pushed back to tomorrow.[/quote]
Is this the NHL/Atlanta Hawks review, we’ve been waiting for?
Damn, sorry… link didn’t close?
Mel Allen always struck me as a self-serving, self-promoting jerk… and Jackie’s letter certainly did nothing to dissuade me from that opinion.
[quote comment=”109541″][quote comment=”109519″]These demo’s came out after the 1981 season, giving the vote to fans. Color shots of the three that lost out Here[/quote]
You are my eternal hero for finding these! Where did you find this photo?[/quote]
So, one uni would have been a cross between the Mets and the Astros? now, that would have been interesting!
[quote comment=”109535″][quote comment=”109488″][quote comment=”109464″][quote comment=”109453″]
The Giro d’Italia race promoters, who supplied Andy Schleck with his white skinsuit as the young riders’ leader, printed the ‘CSC’ logo upside down on the leg.
Was it the promoters or was it Team CSC? Traditionally the promoters only provide the jersey, whether the team provides the rider with shorts of a matching color is up to them. Notice how Alessandro Petacchi’s shorts don’t quite match his link in the same race.[/quote]
Could it be possible that he actually put his shorts on backwards? If the insignia is upside down on both legs, flip it around and they are both rightside up.[/quote]
NO[/quote]
The Skin suit in Andy Schleck’s case is a one-piece, so unless the zipper is in back, it’s not possible. During a “Normal” stage, traditionally the race organizer furnishes the jersey, the rider wears shorts from the team eitherlink or in the link.
For a skin suit, I’m pretty sure it’s still furnished by the team, which means CSC did a hack job. Here’s one where they got it link.
[quote comment=”109532″]Paul, If your ever in Philly you should come by Mitchell and Ness’s offices..would love to show you around!![/quote]
i always loved to go in the old store when i was down visiting my sister in philly, but it always was too much for me at the time. got about 5 jerseys now. the old place was so full it was like a fire waiting to happen.
id love to attend a private uniwatch party at the offices or the store.
[quote comment=”109549″][quote comment=”109541″][quote comment=”109519″]These demo’s came out after the 1981 season, giving the vote to fans. Color shots of the three that lost out link [/quote]
You are my eternal hero for finding these! Where did you find this photo?[/quote]
So, one uni would have been a cross between the Mets and the Astros? now, that would have been interesting![/quote]
Fixing the linked text…
[quote comment=”109532″]Paul, If your ever in Philly you should come by Mitchell and Ness’s offices..would love to show you around!![/quote]
Jared, can you send me an e-mail? Another attorney I know once spoke to me about sports licensing. Maybe you can put me in touch with someone at M&N licensing, as we had a good discussion, but I wasn’t able to help her. Thanks. (law@nyctrademarks.com)
I found it in a Mastro-Net auction book from 1999. I have seen some other photos of team proto’s (Phillies, Blue Jays and Padres amongst other..check out this proto which was designed to commeorate the Expos 20th Anniversary in 1989.
i always loved to go in the old store when i was down visiting my sister in philly, but it always was too much for me at the time. got about 5 jerseys now. the old place was so full it was like a fire waiting to happen.
Those were the good old days…
Hanson Brothers on the cover of Sports Illustrated today. Bitchin’!
[quote comment=”109519″]These demo’s came out after the 1981 season, giving the vote to fans. Color shots of the three that lost out Here[/quote]
The one at extreme right is pretty good (the henley style and the stripes are kind of retro)- a lot better than what they ended up with
[quote comment=”109565″][quote comment=”109519″]These demo’s came out after the 1981 season, giving the vote to fans. Color shots of the three that lost out Here[/quote]
The one at extreme right is pretty good (the henley style and the stripes are kind of retro)- a lot better than what they ended up with[/quote]
All I can think of when I see that uni is the AC/DC song….
Jaaaaaaail-break! Jaaaaaaail-break!
[quote comment=”109572″][quote comment=”109565″][quote comment=”109519″]These demo’s came out after the 1981 season, giving the vote to fans. Color shots of the three that lost out Here[/quote]
The one at extreme right is pretty good (the henley style and the stripes are kind of retro)- a lot better than what they ended up with[/quote]
All I can think of when I see that uni is the AC/DC song….
Jaaaaaaail-break! Jaaaaaaail-break![/quote]
Godblessit! Closing link…
[quote comment=”109413″]The last player in my link picture, or rather the first, from the left, is Frank Thomas, the well-known Pirates OF from the 50s. Then, continuing to the right, is Hodges, Don Zimmer, and Roger Craig, as noted by Stuby.[/quote]
Frank Thomas as a Met is in the punchline of one of my alltime favorite baseball stories, as related by Roger Angell in one of his books. “Yo la tengo!”
[quote comment=”109582″][quote comment=”109413″]The last player in my link picture, or rather the first, from the left, is Frank Thomas, the well-known Pirates OF from the 50s. Then, continuing to the right, is Hodges, Don Zimmer, and Roger Craig, as noted by Stuby.[/quote]
Frank Thomas as a Met is in the punchline of one of my alltime favorite baseball stories, as related by Roger Angell in one of his books. “Yo la tengo!”[/quote]
Posted this before I read #95. Angell tells it better, but that’s the story. :-)
[quote comment=”109457″]Forca Barca!! Glad to see another fan on here. [/quote]
As a fan of both Arsenal and Barca, I’m feeling very, very confused these days. Mostly bummed, which I guess tells me where my true loyalties lie.
Can anyone name all of the teams on the back of the membership cards? There are one or two that I can’t figure out.
[quote comment=”109306″]…always kinda sad to see a cigarette ad from someone who eventually died of a link…
Gil Hodges was from my home town, tiny Petersburg, Indiana. This is totally not uni related, but Hodges belongs in the Hall of Fame. He was a staple of those Brooklyn teams in the 1950s. Hodges had 1001 RBI during the 50s, behind only his teammate Duke Snider and more than Yogi Berra and Stan Musial. By the way, all three of those guys are in the Hall of Fame.
Add Hodges’ short but legendary run as the manager of the Miracle Mets and it’s a no-brainer to me. (Yeah, I’m a little biased. The sign as you enter town says “PETERSBURG – HOME OF GIL HODGES” and as you leave town, you cross the Gil Hodges Memorial Bridge. One of our little league teams every year is known as “Hodges’ Dodgers.” Needless to say, he’s well known here, even 35 years after his death.)
An author named Marino Amoruso wrote a link about Hodges 15 years ago or so. They are some great photos in the book. I’ll try to dig around to find my copy. My personal favorite is the picture of Hodges on Petersburg High School’s basketball team. My grandfather is in the picture, too–he played on the team with Hodges.
The book is worth reading for anyone who is a fan of Hodges, the Dodgers, or Brooklyn baseball.[/quote]
I’m sure you’ve already read this, but Tom Oliphant’s “Praying for Gil Hodges” is highly recommended on the subject. Well, at least by me.
[quote comment=”109557″]I found it in a Mastro-Net auction book from 1999. I have seen some other photos of team proto’s (Phillies, Blue Jays and Padres amongst other..check out this link[/quote]
link a 2004 Majestic prototype from when the Blue Jays were redesigning their uniforms. Even though I’m not a big fan of the current unis, I’m glad they didn’t go with this.
[quote comment=”109550″][quote comment=”109535″][quote comment=”109488″][quote comment=”109464″][quote comment=”109453″]
The Giro d’Italia race promoters, who supplied Andy Schleck with his white skinsuit as the young riders’ leader, printed the ‘CSC’ logo upside down on the leg.
Was it the promoters or was it Team CSC? Traditionally the promoters only provide the jersey, whether the team provides the rider with shorts of a matching color is up to them. Notice how Alessandro Petacchi’s shorts don’t quite match his link in the same race.[/quote]
Could it be possible that he actually put his shorts on backwards? If the insignia is upside down on both legs, flip it around and they are both rightside up.[/quote]
NO[/quote]
The Skin suit in Andy Schleck’s case is a one-piece, so unless the zipper is in back, it’s not possible. During a “Normal” stage, traditionally the race organizer furnishes the jersey, the rider wears shorts from the team eitherlink or in the link.
For a skin suit, I’m pretty sure it’s still furnished by the team, which means CSC did a hack job. Here’s one where they got it link.[/quote]
That is too bad. It would have been a much funnier story if his pants were on backwards.
[quote comment=”109621″][quote comment=”109550″][quote comment=”109535″][quote comment=”109488″][quote comment=”109464″][quote comment=”109453″]
The Giro d’Italia race promoters, who supplied Andy Schleck with his white skinsuit as the young riders’ leader, printed the ‘CSC’ logo upside down on the leg.
Was it the promoters or was it Team CSC? Traditionally the promoters only provide the jersey, whether the team provides the rider with shorts of a matching color is up to them. Notice how Alessandro Petacchi’s shorts don’t quite match his link in the same race.[/quote]
Could it be possible that he actually put his shorts on backwards? If the insignia is upside down on both legs, flip it around and they are both rightside up.[/quote]
NO[/quote]
The Skin suit in Andy Schleck’s case is a one-piece, so unless the zipper is in back, it’s not possible. During a “Normal” stage, traditionally the race organizer furnishes the jersey, the rider wears shorts from the team eitherlink or in the link.
For a skin suit, I’m pretty sure it’s still furnished by the team, which means CSC did a hack job. Here’s one where they got it link.[/quote]
That is too bad. It would have been a much funnier story if his pants were on backwards.[/quote]
closing italics?
Wow, Mets with blue caps 5 games in a row…I bet the last time that happened was in like 1997. I won’t get my hopes up too soon though.
[quote comment=”109619″][quote comment=”109557″]I found it in a Mastro-Net auction book from 1999. I have seen some other photos of team proto’s (Phillies, Blue Jays and Padres amongst other..check out this link[/quote]
link a 2004 Majestic prototype from when the Blue Jays were redesigning their uniforms. Even though I’m not a big fan of the current unis, I’m glad they didn’t go with this.[/quote]
Wow that’s hideous, but nowhere near as hideous as link as far as the different colored sleeve look goes.
[quote comment=”109611″]
I’m sure you’ve already read this, but Tom Oliphant’s “Praying for Gil Hodges” is highly recommended on the subject. Well, at least by me.[/quote]
Interestingly, I have not had a chance to read this yet, but I want to very badly.
[quote comment=”109622″][quote comment=”109621″][quote comment=”109550″][quote comment=”109535″][quote comment=”109488″][quote comment=”109464″][quote comment=”109453″]
The Giro d’Italia race promoters, who supplied Andy Schleck with his white skinsuit as the young riders’ leader, printed the ‘CSC’ logo upside down on the leg.
Was it the promoters or was it Team CSC? Traditionally the promoters only provide the jersey, whether the team provides the rider with shorts of a matching color is up to them. Notice how Alessandro Petacchi’s shorts don’t quite match his link in the same race.[/quote]
Could it be possible that he actually put his shorts on backwards? If the insignia is upside down on both legs, flip it around and they are both rightside up.[/quote]
NO[/quote]
The Skin suit in Andy Schleck’s case is a one-piece, so unless the zipper is in back, it’s not possible. During a “Normal” stage, traditionally the race organizer furnishes the jersey, the rider wears shorts from the team eitherlink or in the link.
For a skin suit, I’m pretty sure it’s still furnished by the team, which means CSC did a hack job. Here’s one where they got it link.[/quote]
That is too bad. It would have been a much funnier story if his pants were on backwards.[/quote]
closing italics?[/quote]
Funny, it looks OK in the preview, but the post goes live in italics.
Also, have you ever tried to wear a pair of bike shorts backward? Especially link, which most in the Pro Peloton wear?
Texas League All-Star Game last night teams wore their own unis. Also, Can anyone tell me why it says Little Rock on the Arkansas Travelers road jersey? with the Caps logo it reminded me of something tasty link
Tonight’s Mets-Cardinals game looks great. The Mets are wearing their blue hats, and Anthony Reyes (Cards pitcher) is showing vintage St. Louis stirrups. If only he wasn’t wearing his hat flat-brimmed…
Watching the Braves/Nationals and Washington reliever Traber has something all over his hat. It makes half of it look gray. I thought it was chalk at first, but now I can’t tell if it’s rosin or what. He hasn’t gone to it yet from what I can tell.
…whatever it is, it’s not helping. He’s given up five runs so far.
Please DON’T ask for: minor leagues, CFL, NBA, soccer, rugby, NCAA — those are all out of bounds for now.
Crap…I thought it would be cool to have an Indiana U. basketball look for my card…I suppose there’s a whole slew of copyright crap to go through (IU “trident” logo above the number). Oh well…I guess i’ll have to go with another of my favorites.
[quote comment=”109507″][quote comment=”109458″]The other day on his radio show, Tony Kornheiser was really slamming the Caps new uniforms. In a quick summary, he felt that the older red white and blue uniforms were far superior to the ones just unveiled. He also made an interesting but debatable point: he felt that the eagle sleeve patch is a derivative of the DC United eagle logo. Any comments?
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I’m happy to see any other North American sport deriving something from a soccer team![/quote]
Of course, TK also said that he never liked that logo, as it looked a little too “Germanic” for his taste.
[quote comment=”109692″][quote comment=”109507″][quote comment=”109458″]The other day on his radio show, Tony Kornheiser was really slamming the Caps new uniforms. In a quick summary, he felt that the older red white and blue uniforms were far superior to the ones just unveiled. He also made an interesting but debatable point: he felt that the eagle sleeve patch is a derivative of the DC United eagle logo. Any comments?
[/quote]
I’m happy to see any other North American sport deriving something from a soccer team![/quote]
Of course, TK also said that he never liked that logo, as it looked a little too “Germanic” for his taste.[/quote]
You know, I always thought that too. link always reminded me of a combination of link and link. The red and black (and orange in the star) colors in the United logo don’t help either.
• There was a small display of women’s baseball ephemera — and sure enough, that’s where I spotted A League of Her Own director Penny Marshall, who looked much, much worse than this photo indicates.
Interestingly enough (to me anyway), my dad and I sat directly in front of Penny Marshall and David Lander at a Dodgers game in L.A. when I was a kid. My dad asked me if I knew who it was and I said ‘Laverne’. Then he asked if I knew the other person. I said ‘No’ and he told me it was Squiggy. He looked more like link than link, so I didn’t recognize him really. On the way home my dad said they were talking about a women’s baseball movie that Penny was working on.
Here are photos of a prototype for what ultimately became the Reds 1999 road uniforms. They were considering going to a black sleeve instead of a vest. Yikes. And the thick-stripes on the pants were just plain ugly. I am quite pleased that they gave the thumbs down to this idea.
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There just seem to be a lot more hype for the NHL draft, huh.
[quote comment=”109717″]Here are photos of a prototype for what ultimately became the Reds 1999 road uniforms. They were considering going to a black sleeve instead of a vest. Yikes. And the thick-stripes on the pants were just plain ugly. I am quite pleased that they gave the thumbs down to this idea.
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Those are very softball-ish. I love all of these uniforms-that-never-were that people have posted today. Keep ’em comin’.
I love all of this cycling talk, can we get a tour de France preview column?
Kornheiser is a moron.
What are we going to [quote comment=”109755″]I love all of this cycling talk, can we get a tour de France preview column?[/quote]
What are we going to talk about? Which color of syringe they’re using? What color torniquet? Everyone knows the REAL action happens behind closed doors?
Forgive me, I’ve very jaded right now. This sport has fine color and tradition, but it’s hard to convince me that anyone in the Pro Peloton is “clean”. I’ll still watch, with half a mind toward the doping results which come with regularity nowadays….
Not so happy to see beckham running around with reggie bush. i thought he was supposed to be resting so his ankle can heal before he gets to LA.
Images of Frank Robinson in 69 WS:
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Spam filter ate me! I’ve got pix of the Robinson 69 WS uni malfunction…