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This and Tat

By Vince Grzegorek
While tattoos were once the domain of sailors and ne’er do wells, you’re now likely to see a tattooed bride or altar boy. — Rachel Weingarten

The stigma of tattoos has been mellowed in the last ten to twenty years, especially in the world of sports. Everyone from swimmers to female boxers seem to have a little something inked somewhere on their bodies, and arms, legs, neck, hands, and even faces get decorated on a regular basis. Tattoos in certain places might still be taboo in mainstream society and might be a barrier to employment in certain sectors, but certainly that kind of corporate, buttoned-down mentality wouldn’t apply to our freewheeling athletes, would it?

Actually, it does, because many leagues consider tattoos to be part of the uniform. In fact, in many sports tattoos are covered in collective bargaining agreements, league committees, and official rulebooks. Take Major League Baseball, which, like the Marines, frowns upon “sleeve” tattoos. Justin Miller of the Florida Marlins (the same guy who has “I [heart] Billy Koch” tattooed on his rear end) has been told to wear long sleeves while pitching because his many tattoos could distract the batter. His response: “For me, my left arm shouldn’t even be counted as a distraction. It’s not part of my uniform, it’s part of me.”

Joel Zumaya and Felipe Lopez usually wear at least semi-long sleeves while playing, although it’s not clear whether they do so based on a higher directive from MLB to cover their arm tattoos (Zumaya, Lopez, Lopez again), or because they just enjoy that style.

As with most things in sports, sponsorship, advertising. and money come into the equation as well. Mike Juhasz of the Calgary Stampeders was told by his coach to cover his Nike swoosh tattoo since Nike was a competing sponsor of the league. One has to wonder if something similar would have to be done if this young man ever made it to the NBA. (Incidentally, LeBron James had to cover his tattoos while playing during high school.)

You wouldn’t think tattoos would be a huge deal in the world of auto racing, right? But Kimi Raikkonen took some heat for a tattoo of a little sun he got on his wrist. Nothing much came of it, but the media fixated on the topic, and Ferrari boss Jean Todt finally said that if a sponsor was that upset about the tattoo then they would just change sponsors.

Then there’s the strange world of temporary tattoo advertising, which has grown into the even stranger world of real tattoo advertising — and which, of course, got its start in sports. Bernard Hopkins collected an extra $100,000 paycheck for putting a GoldenPalace.com temporary tattoo on his back during his 2001 bout against Felix Trinidad, and soon the boxing world was up in arms about the prospect of fighters dancing around the squared circle like sweaty billboards. (Temporary tattoos in the ring were eventually banned since they could be a distraction to the judges and because the ink could come off and get in the opponent’s eye.)

Soon, the juggernaut of sports marketing jumped on board and a New York man planned to ambush the NBA with selected players wearing temporary tattoo advertisements during three selected games in 2001. After hearing about the plan, the NBA quickly put an end to the plans while threatening fines and suspensions. Rasheed Wallace also considered wearing a temporary tattoo for a candy company but eventually backed out because he “didn’t want to use his body as a billboard.” I’m sure it had nothing to do with David Stern at all. Really. The league maintains that players are not allowed to wear any stray corporate insignia on any parts of their bodies, which are considered part of the uniform.

One of the few places that temporary tattoo advertising has survived is in beach volleyball, where players can often be seen wearing multiple corporate logos while diving around in the sand. Having concentrated on, um, other aspects of women’s beach volleyball, it didn’t occur to me until lately that they were wearing temporary tattoos on their arms. Having not watched any men’s volleyball, I had to do a quick search just to make sure that they were taking part in the “Body For Sale” trend as well.

Tangential Bonus Material: Don’t forget, these are wonderful Father’s Day gifts… Bet you didn’t know that Sean Salisbury has/had a “No Fear” tattoo on his ankle (bottom of page)… Check out this article for all the legal ramifications of NBA players wearing temporary tattoo advertising… Many Japanese sports clubs forbid tattoos altogether because they are associated with gangsters, but they tend to let them slide if they are not visible to the other members… According to a very informal survey, the Harley-Davidson logo is the most popular trademark tattoo on the west coast. For more tidbits about logos and tattoos read this… Still interested in NBA players and temporary tattoo advertisements? Listen to this NPR interview from 2001… Sweet looking American flag tattoo on some player in the upcoming video game The BigsHere’s a transcript from an Outside the Lines episode where they discussed tattoo advertising… Gallery of athletes and their tattoos here… Another gallery of athletes and their tattoos here (6 and 10 are personal favorites).

 

218 comments to This and Tat

  • Jason | June 7, 2007 at 8:29 am |

    I always hated the Golden Palace stuff on boxers. I didn’t know it had been banned. Good to know that there are still some sensible rule makers around.

  • John in Athens | June 7, 2007 at 8:35 am |

    … off day eh, Paul?

    Sigh.

  • Robert | June 7, 2007 at 8:36 am |

    The morning show on the Dallas sports station went over the SI Top Ten Worst College Uniforms list this morning. It was rather lazy of them to simply read and comment on a list that was so haphazardly put together in the first place.

    It makes me crazy that the SI list, which contained no explanation of the selections, is getting this kind of attention.

  • Natron | June 7, 2007 at 8:40 am |

    It wasn’t really a tattoo, but does anybody remember which boxer had Golden Palace ads on the bottom of his shoes so it could be seen when he got knocked out?

    I always thought that was more funny than most of the other Golden Palace stunts.

  • Johnny O | June 7, 2007 at 8:51 am |
  • Natron | June 7, 2007 at 8:56 am |

    [quote comment=”98978″]Brewers fans are the greatest[/quote]

    This is also a Brewers’ fan.

  • Robert | June 7, 2007 at 8:57 am |

    Excellent work, Vince. And as always, I appreciate it when beach volleyball photos are thrown into the analysis.

    Josh Hamilton, the Reds rookie and former drug/alcohol addict, shows off some major tats, including flames going up one of his arms.

    http://news.enquirer...

  • Paul Lukas | June 7, 2007 at 8:57 am |

    [quote comment=”98967″]… off day eh, Paul?

    Sigh.[/quote]

    Hey, that’s not nice to Vince. Yes, it’s a day off for me, but it’s also a chance for Vince to do his thing. I appreciate that you miss me, but c’mon — Vince does good work too!

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    I love the Justin Miller “I (heart) Billy Koch” tattoo. If I get out to a Mets-Marlins game this year, I’ll try to ask him about it. haha

    Paul, no mention of Golden Palace paying streakers to put temporary tattoos on their bodies?

    http://www.goldenpal...

    http://www.winneronl...

  • Natron | June 7, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    Can we get bonus points for identifying the person in picture?

    I believe I may be able to identify them. I’m not positive, but if it’s a celebrity, I think I’ve got it.

  • Nolan | June 7, 2007 at 9:02 am |

    Here’s a story from last year about a cyclist, David Clinger who got a full face tattoo and his team was not at all pleased.

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 9:02 am |

    Justin Miller also has I-D-I-O and A-M-O-R on each of his knuckles. (LOVE and HATE for those non-Spanish speaking Uni Watchers)

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 9:05 am |

    Speaking of temporary tattoos, no plug for this one??

    http://static.flickr...

  • Natron | June 7, 2007 at 9:09 am |

    [quote comment=”98989″]Justin Miller also has I-D-I-O and A-M-O-R on each of his knuckles.

    (LOVE and HATE for those non-Spanish speaking Uni Watchers)[/quote]

    http://i140.photobuc...

  • Natron | June 7, 2007 at 9:10 am |

    [quote comment=”98993″][quote comment=”98989″]Justin Miller also has I-D-I-O and A-M-O-R on each of his knuckles.

    (LOVE and HATE for those non-Spanish speaking Uni Watchers)[/quote]

    http://i140.photobuc...

    Whoops. Radio Raheem.

  • David | June 7, 2007 at 9:10 am |

    [quote comment=”98982″]Excellent work, Vince. And as always, I appreciate it when beach volleyball photos are thrown into the analysis.

    Josh Hamilton, the Reds rookie and former drug/alcohol addict, shows off some major tats, including flames going up one of his arms.

    http://news.enquirer...

    Hamilton also blames the same guys who got him into drugs, ruined his life, etc.

    Great post today, Vince. I love some good tats.

  • Vince Grzegorek | June 7, 2007 at 9:11 am |

    [quote comment=”98990″]Speaking of temporary tattoos, no plug for this one??

    http://static.flickr...

    My mistake. Forgot to include that in the final draft. Will add somewhere.

    [quote comment=”98987″]Can we get bonus points for identifying the person in picture?

    I believe I may be able to identify them. I’m not positive, but if it’s a celebrity, I think I’ve got it.[/quote]

    Email your guess to uniwatchintern@gmail.com if you want to guess the tattoo lead picture and I’ll tell you if you’re right.

    –Vince

  • Natron | June 7, 2007 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment=”98997″]

    I believe I may be able to identify them. I’m not positive, but if it’s a celebrity, I think I’ve got it.[/quote]

    Email your guess to uniwatchintern@gmail.com if you want to guess the tattoo lead picture and I’ll tell you if you’re right.

    –Vince[/quote]

    I’m backing off. I found a pic of who I thought it was, and he clearly has different tats. I thought the “LB” and the dollar sign were clues. Damn.

  • Mark in Cincy | June 7, 2007 at 9:31 am |

    As far as Felipe Lopez and his long sleeves, I remember reading a profile in the Cincinnati Enquirer last year noting that he wears the long sleeves because he feels showing his ink is disrespectful to the game. Unfortunately, I can’t find a link to the article.

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 9:31 am |

    This is becoming almost a weekly occurrence, a sort of funny Chien-Ming Wang article title….

    http://www.sj-r.com/...

  • todd krevanchi | June 7, 2007 at 9:33 am |

    most ekin’s get swoosh tattoos somewhere on their bodies…

  • Bob A | June 7, 2007 at 9:35 am |

    [quote comment=”98983″][quote comment=”98967″]… off day eh, Paul?

    Sigh.[/quote]

    Hey, that’s not nice to Vince. Yes, it’s a day off for me, but it’s also a chance for Vince to do his thing. I appreciate that you miss me, but c’mon — Vince does good work too![/quote]

    Are you kidding? Vince posted very athletic women in bikinis! That isn’t good work, thats GREAT work!!! Vince rules!

  • al | June 7, 2007 at 9:35 am |

    Paul,

    is that a foot / shoe measure on the right arm?

  • todd krevanchi | June 7, 2007 at 9:41 am |

    [quote comment=”99011″]Paul,

    is that a foot / shoe measure on the right arm?[/quote]

    excuse me, dont you mean brannock device?

  • Paul Lukas | June 7, 2007 at 9:41 am |

    [quote comment=”99011″]Paul,

    is that a foot / shoe measure on the right arm?[/quote]

    A Brannock Device, yes. My Very Favorite Object. No, I don’t have a foot fetish. But I do have a strong appreciation for gorgeous industrial design, functional specificity, and ubiquitous things that hide in plain sight.

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 9:42 am |

    I wonder what the NBA would do if some players started doing this?

    http://farisyakob.ty...

    As was mentioned on this site previously, KC’s Larry Johnson shaved the Rocawear logo into his head. No pic of his head, but I did notice that he even has his gf doing the Rocawear logo….

    http://static.flickr...

  • Robert | June 7, 2007 at 9:53 am |

    Sometimes it would be nice to have a daily Uni Poll. For instance, today it would be interesting to know what percentage of the readers have tats of their own.

    I do not, by the way. I always wanted to get tats of the logos of my alma mater and favorite MLB team, but I was (a) too chicken; (b) too cheap; and (c) too much of a nerd.

  • Frenchie | June 7, 2007 at 9:54 am |

    If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, AOL’s The FanHouse must looooove the UniWatch. They’re compiling their “Worts Uniform in History” list. Haven’t we seen that done already?

    The same site did, however, reveal this nugget of info: while the new Devil Rays uni hasn’t yet been leaked, this site says to look for “a heavy use of blue with yellow accents.”

  • Jeremy | June 7, 2007 at 9:54 am |

    [quote comment=”99008″]This is becoming almost a weekly occurrence, a sort of funny Chien-Ming Wang article title….

    http://www.sj-r.com/...
    I don’t understand what’s funny about that one.

  • Jared Wheeler | June 7, 2007 at 9:56 am |

    Excellent work Vince!! Where are the two scoops of raisins on Kimi Räikkönen tattoo ? http://www.answers.c...

  • Mojosan | June 7, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    http://sportsillustr...

    I wonder if he knows that this is actually a Philadelphia Eagles logo at a different angle?

    http://www.seatseek....

  • Joe Drennan | June 7, 2007 at 9:59 am |

    Joe Corvoe of the Cup losing Sens has a bunch of tats, along with his mohawk. I was playing hockey with him a few summers back when he just got one on ehis stomach, some sun circling his belly button and it casued quite the discussion in the lockerroom as I was the only non NHL player out there (they needed a goalie to shoot at) and just about every one of them had a tat, including me (a small shamrock on my right ankel). Corvo though said he gets them when he has nothing else to do and regrets some of them as they’re “too trendy”

  • Jared Wheeler | June 7, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    http://www.funhouset...

    Check out this Flyers tattoo!! Nice work by my buddy Mike Ruocco in Tannersville, PA

  • Natron | June 7, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”99022″]If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, AOL’s The FanHouse must looooove the UniWatch. They’re compiling their “Worts Uniform in History” list. Haven’t we seen that done already?

    The same site did, however, reveal this nugget of info: while the new Devil Rays uni hasn’t yet been leaked, this site says to look for “a heavy use of blue with yellow accents.”[/quote]

    They didn’t exactly break that news.

  • Kevin | June 7, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”99021″]Sometimes it would be nice to have a daily Uni Poll. For instance, today it would be interesting to know what percentage of the readers have tats of their own.

    I do not, by the way. I always wanted to get tats of the logos of my alma mater and favorite MLB team, but I was (a) too chicken; (b) too cheap; and (c) too much of a nerd.[/quote]

    (c) too much of a nerd

  • al | June 7, 2007 at 10:14 am |

    Side note, the mets lost again in their blues. Hate to say it, but i think they are jinxed.

  • Ian K | June 7, 2007 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”98969″]The morning show on the Dallas sports station went over the SI Top Ten Worst College Uniforms list this morning. It was rather lazy of them to simply read and comment on a list that was so haphazardly put together in the first place.

    It makes me crazy that the SI list, which contained no explanation of the selections, is getting this kind of attention.[/quote]

    I thought that was odd too when I listened to the uniform segment this morning. I had already read the list, thanks to this blog, so I could follow along easily. But talking about a list of bad unis on the radio doesn’t translate as well, since there’s no visual. There’s no way I could’ve pictured the Delaware uniforms just by listening to the radio.

  • Boston Nick | June 7, 2007 at 10:18 am |

    Count me in the want to but really can’t afford it as far as tats go. Frankly, I’ve been looking to get a very involved piece on my upper left arm, and I wanna get it done right, in full color. But I’m poor, so as a result, I haven’t gotten anything.

    After I (maybe) eventually get that piece, I’ll move on, I’ll definitely have a Red Sox ‘B’ logo, maybe a Bruins spoked B, probably a BU Terriers logo of some sort.

    Other than those, I prefer classic, pin up style tats. Flames, skulls, sparrows, banners and such, and my favorite tat, which I know I’ll never have the balls to get, is the spider web on the elbow.

    As far as athlete tats go, Sheed’s tattoo is a cool looking piece, and although I usually don’t love tribal stuff, I love Kyle Turley’s huge tribal work.

  • SRD | June 7, 2007 at 10:18 am |

    Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

  • WVU Tom | June 7, 2007 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”99044″]Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

    Has anybody ever noticed that the “D” on the Detroit Tigers cap is different than the one on thier jersey?

  • Sage Confucius | June 7, 2007 at 10:33 am |

    [quote comment=”99016″]I wonder what the NBA would do if some players started doing this?

    http://farisyakob.ty...

    As was mentioned on this site previously, KC’s Larry Johnson shaved the Rocawear logo into his head.

    No pic of his head, but I did notice that he even has his gf doing the Rocawear logo….

    http://static.flickr...

    If you’re going to cut a logo into your hair, shouldn’t it at least be going in the right direction?

  • Natron | June 7, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”99047″][quote comment=”99044″]Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

    Has anybody ever noticed that the “D” on the Detroit Tigers cap is different than the one on thier jersey?[/quote]

    As a matter of fact, yes, it has been noticed.

  • Dave B | June 7, 2007 at 10:35 am |

    Once again, my comment will not go through. I tried posting a rather lengthy comment last night/early this morning, and it did not go through. But when I checked back this morning, it had eventually gone through. So if this comment is worthless because my other comment is already here…dang.
    But if my other comment doesn’t go through, please ready my blog (which is really just the comment that wouldn’t go through.)
    http://changeofunifo...

  • Dave B | June 7, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    P.S. The topic of my comment/blog is the relationship between uniforms and championships. It’s title: Uniform Change = Change in Success?!?
    Please read and comment/contribute.
    Thank you.

  • Vincent A. Cipollone | June 7, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”99047″][quote comment=”99044″]Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

    Has anybody ever noticed that the “D” on the Detroit Tigers cap is different than the one on thier jersey?[/quote]

    Yeah, in fact, Paul did a whole feature on it. Turns out, a whole bunch of teams do that. Unfortunately, I don’t have the link.

    BTW, why does Zumaya have the flames on his non-throwing hand? That’s not the fast one!

  • Rick | June 7, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”99052″][quote comment=”99047″][quote comment=”99044″]Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

    Has anybody ever noticed that the “D” on the Detroit Tigers cap is different than the one on thier jersey?[/quote]

    As a matter of fact, yes, it has been noticed.[/quote]

    People have been posting the CNNSI.COM article for 3 days now.

  • Matt B | June 7, 2007 at 10:38 am |

    Becks wears long sleeves specifically to avoid offending people with his numerous tattoos. To my knowledge he doesn’t have anything particularly offensive (besides misspelling Posh’s name in Hindi). Some people are just uptight I guess. He has also stated that he has something of an addiction to getting tats.

    I had thought he just wore the sleeves to be stylish.

    (NB: Ted mentioned this a couple weeks back on the boards)

  • Johnny O | June 7, 2007 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”99026″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2006/01/03/gallery.tattoos/content.8.html

    I wonder if he knows that this is actually a Philadelphia Eagles logo at a different angle?

    http://www.seatseek....
    If I’m not mistaken that is Milwaukee Brewers platooned left fielder Kevin Mench with that Eagles tat… and Mench is a die hard Eagles fan and actually attended the Eagles camp when the Crew played in Philly last month. (look in the “last call” section)

    Mench at Eagles camp

  • Kenny | June 7, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”99052″][quote comment=”99047″][quote comment=”99044″]Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

    Has anybody ever noticed that the “D” on the Detroit Tigers cap is different than the one on thier jersey?[/quote]

    As a matter of fact, yes, it has been noticed.[/quote]

    WVU Tom, you should have posted with [sarcasm] listed

  • Michael | June 7, 2007 at 10:47 am |

    Joel Zumaya actually added the flame tatoo to his right arm over the offseason. Sorry I couldn’t find a better picture, but if you look real close on his right arm, you can definitely see it. Holla back.

    http://info.detnews....

  • tim b | June 7, 2007 at 10:51 am |

    Off topic, but MoonDog owns Tony Parker.

    http://images.sports...

    Go Cavs! RISE UP!

  • Ian K | June 7, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”99021″]Sometimes it would be nice to have a daily Uni Poll. For instance, today it would be interesting to know what percentage of the readers have tats of their own.

    I do not, by the way. I always wanted to get tats of the logos of my alma mater and favorite MLB team, but I was (a) too chicken; (b) too cheap; and (c) too much of a nerd.[/quote]

    I’ll now comment on your other post, Robert. I’m sure most of us here have thought about getting a sports logo tattoo (LA Dodgers cap logo for me) but haven’t gone through with it. Since 1310 The Ticket has already been mentioned today by you, I’ll point out that midday host Bob Sturm has a Green Bay logo tattoo on his arm that he got done on the show.

    Anybody here have pics of their sports tattoos, if they have them? A good reason I don’t is that I already have a tattoo in memory of my sister, and I think any other tat would cheapen the importance of the one I already have.

    And WVU Tom, I got your sarcastic joke about the Detroit D. I know you’re a regular contributor, but I can’t tell if the follow-up posters to your sarcasm realize it.

  • WVU Tom | June 7, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”99056″][quote comment=”99052″][quote comment=”99047″][quote comment=”99044″]Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

    Has anybody ever noticed that the “D” on the Detroit Tigers cap is different than the one on thier jersey?[/quote]

    As a matter of fact, yes, it has been noticed.[/quote]

    People have been posting the CNNSI.COM article for 3 days now.[/quote]

    Yes, I know–that was the point of my comment…I should have used [sarcasm] tags…

  • Mike Engle | June 7, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”99054″]P.S. The topic of my comment/blog is the relationship between uniforms and championships. It’s title: Uniform Change = Change in Success?!?
    Please read and comment/contribute.
    Thank you.[/quote]
    Hmmm, the Anaheim Ducks just won the cup with their new uniforms.
    The Denver Broncos won two Super Bowls in their first two years with those navy jerseys with the orange accents.
    The Anaheim Angels won the World Series shortly after switching away from the cartoonish uniforms and to the red hats.See for yourself.
    The Detroit Pistons, upon returning to red, white, and blue (may those teal things burn in hell).
    The Florida Marlins have double-luck with new uniforms: 1997 was the death of the teal hats, and a World Series, and 2003 featured the script-ish FLORIDA on the road uniforms, as opposed to the block, radial arched lettering, and another World Series. Complete history of Florida Marlins uniforms (thanks, Dressed to the Nines)
    The Cavaliers’ new uniforms came just in time for LeBron, does that count?
    That’s all I can think of right now, but there are numerous examples. To close, I recall an ESPN commercial that featured designers pitching new Buffalo Bills uniforms so they could win a Super Bowl, just like the Broncos.

  • ScottyJ in WV | June 7, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”99044″]Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

    10. Utah-It’s kinda busy, but not in the top 10 worst.
    9. ND(green)-No way. Can’t stand ND, but those are great unis navy or green.
    8. Iowa St.-Not top 10 awful but they lose points for the reds on the helmet and jersey not matching.
    7. Clemson-Lose the pinstripes and this is a all time great.
    6. Air Force-Great uni. Immediately recognizable.
    5. Delaware-Well, it ain’t great.
    4. Syracuse-Very good uni. I think it needs just a touch of white.
    3. Rhode Island-It’s pretty bad.
    2. Wyoming-It doesn’t do much for me, but it’s not horrible.
    1. Oregon-It goes without saying, but I’ll say it anyway….THE worst college football uniform EVAH!

  • WVU Tom | June 7, 2007 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”99069″][quote comment=”99054″]P.S. The topic of my comment/blog is the relationship between uniforms and championships. It’s title: Uniform Change = Change in Success?!?
    Please read and comment/contribute.
    Thank you.[/quote]
    Hmmm, the Anaheim Ducks just won the cup with their new uniforms.
    The Denver Broncos won two Super Bowls in their first two years with those navy jerseys with the orange accents.
    The Anaheim Angels won the World Series shortly after switching away from the cartoonish uniforms and to the red hats.See for yourself.
    The Detroit Pistons, upon returning to red, white, and blue (may those teal things burn in hell).
    The Florida Marlins have double-luck with new uniforms: 1997 was the death of the teal hats, and a World Series, and 2003 featured the script-ish FLORIDA on the road uniforms, as opposed to the block, radial arched lettering, and another World Series. Complete history of Florida Marlins uniforms (thanks, Dressed to the Nines)
    The Cavaliers’ new uniforms came just in time for LeBron, does that count?
    That’s all I can think of right now, but there are numerous examples. To close, I recall an ESPN commercial that featured designers pitching new Buffalo Bills uniforms so they could win a Super Bowl, just like the Broncos.[/quote]

    I wonder if it matters if the uniform change is an improvement or not–most of these were, except of course for Denver. I remember thinking “Oh great, now that they’ve won a superbowl in those ugly uniforms they’ll never get rid of them!”

  • Anthony Verna | June 7, 2007 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”99058″][quote comment=”99026″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2006/01/03/gallery.tattoos/content.8.html

    I wonder if he knows that this is actually a Philadelphia Eagles logo at a different angle?

    http://www.seatseek....
    If I’m not mistaken that is Milwaukee Brewers platooned left fielder Kevin Mench with that Eagles tat… and Mench is a die hard Eagles fan and actually attended the Eagles camp when the Crew played in Philly last month. (look in the “last call” section)

    Mench at Eagles camp[/quote]

    Mench is from Delaware (a friend of mine – now in San Jose – knew him in high school and went to some Rangers game in Oakland early last year).

  • RCheli | June 7, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    Long-time reader, but this is my first post (and this is only really tangentally about uniforms, but if anyone would get a kick out it this, I’m sure the readers here would).

    I work from home, so during lunch, I tend to try and find something to watch on TV to break up the monotony of looking at a computer. (Daytime television is terrible by the way.)

    So I flip on ESPN Classic, and they’re showing a bowling tournament from 1993 which I watch for a few minutes. One of the bowlers was Walter Ray Williams (who I guess is pretty good, because the announcers were fawning over him), and he was sporting a full beard. The play-by-play guy commented on this and said, “Williams grew his beard out after the PBA relaxed their rule for facial hair before the start of this season.”

    So, while you could wear terrible polo shirts and polyester pants all you wanted, you couldn’t have a beard on tour until 1993.

  • Natron | June 7, 2007 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”99068″][quote comment=”99056″][quote comment=”99052″][quote comment=”99047″][quote comment=”99044″]Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

    Has anybody ever noticed that the “D” on the Detroit Tigers cap is different than the one on thier jersey?[/quote]

    As a matter of fact, yes, it has been noticed.[/quote]

    People have been posting the CNNSI.COM article for 3 days now.[/quote]

    Yes, I know–that was the point of my comment…I should have used [sarcasm] tags…[/quote]

    Whoops! I missed it. Sorry!

    It’s was still a link to another fine Uni Watch entry!

  • Parrish | June 7, 2007 at 11:03 am |

    http://sportsillustr...

    Anybody else seen this. It’s supposably SIOC’s assessment of the ten worst unifroms in college football, but for some reason they include Notre Dame.

  • John H | June 7, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”99026″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2006/01/03/gallery.tattoos/content.8.html

    I wonder if he knows that this is actually a Philadelphia Eagles logo at a different angle?

    http://www.seatseek....

    Yea Kevin Mench is a huge eagles fan, has season tickets and the like so im guessing that he knew it was the Eagles logo

  • Mike Engle | June 7, 2007 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”99071″][quote comment=”99044″]Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

    10. Utah-It’s kinda busy, but not in the top 10 worst.
    9. ND(green)-No way. Can’t stand ND, but those are great unis navy or green.
    Blah, blah, blah…
    1. Oregon-It goes without saying, but I’ll say it anyway….THE worst college football uniform EVAH![/quote]
    I’d like to comment about the green Notre Dame jersey. Yes, it’s a little odd. I’m not sure I think of Notre Dame as a green-wearing school. But that green jersey has history. It was designed as the “special occasion” and “anti-confusion” jersey for the Notre Dame/US Naval Academy game (and other occasions) way back in the 30’s.
    While I think their navy jerseys are Notre Dame’s best of the three, the green jersey is a great alternate jersey, especially if it could conjure up some “Luck o’ the Irish.”

  • Anthony Verna | June 7, 2007 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”99075″]So, while you could wear terrible polo shirts and polyester pants all you wanted, you couldn’t have a beard on tour until 1993.[/quote]

    Well, we all know that facial hair affects athletic performance, right, Mr. Steinbrenner?

  • Bob A | June 7, 2007 at 11:07 am |

    Jeff Bagwell’s ex-wife ‘sold’ her cleavage to Golden Palace to advertising. I have no other comment. ;-(

  • Broker75 | June 7, 2007 at 11:12 am |

    There seems to be a lot of hairy people in the pics posted in the opening..

  • Jill | June 7, 2007 at 11:14 am |

    I’ve always said that when the Cubs win the world series something similar to this guy is going on my arm. I’m not holding my breath.

  • Mr. Met | June 7, 2007 at 11:14 am |

    Has anybody on here not seen the SI “Worst College Uniforms” photo gallery? It seems like about a dozen different people have linked to it.

  • Nolan | June 7, 2007 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”99078″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0706/campus.ugly.uniforms/content.1.html?cnn=yes

    Anybody else seen this. It’s supposably SIOC’s assessment of the ten worst unifroms in college football, but for some reason they include Notre Dame.[/quote]

    I’m now curled up in fetal position

  • Johnny O | June 7, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”99078″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0706/campus.ugly.uniforms/content.1.html?cnn=yes

    Anybody else seen this. It’s supposably SIOC’s assessment of the ten worst unifroms in college football, but for some reason they include Notre Dame.[/quote]

    OK… I don’t mean to gripe… but people have been posting “SI’s 10 worst college uniforms ever” for the past few days now. As someone stated two days ago, please use ctrl+f and search for the topic first. It is just kind of frustrating to read the same article the past 3-4 days now. This is by no means a personal attack or anything, just an opinion.

  • todd krevanchi | June 7, 2007 at 11:22 am |

    [quote comment=”99075″]One of the bowlers was Walter Ray Williams (who I guess is pretty good, because the announcers were fawning over him), and he was sporting a full beard. The play-by-play guy commented on this and said, “Williams grew his beard out after the PBA relaxed their rule for facial hair before the start of this season.”[/quote]

    besides being regarded as one of the worlds greatest bowlers, walter ray is also one of the worlds greates horseshoe champions. winning multiple world titles…

  • Jason | June 7, 2007 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”99078″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0706/campus.ugly.uniforms/content.1.html?cnn=yes

    Anybody else seen this. It’s supposably SIOC’s assessment of the ten worst unifroms in college football, but for some reason they include Notre Dame.[/quote]

    Guys, breaking news, John F. Kennedy was shot in Dallas. Apparently, some guy shot him from a book depository building from a pretty long distance. I smell conspiracy.

    Geez.

  • Justin | June 7, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”99071″][quote comment=”99044″]Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

    10. Utah-It’s kinda busy, but not in the top 10 worst.
    9. ND(green)-No way. Can’t stand ND, but those are great unis navy or green.
    8. Iowa St.-Not top 10 awful but they lose points for the reds on the helmet and jersey not matching.
    7. Clemson-Lose the pinstripes and this is a all time great.
    6. Air Force-Great uni. Immediately recognizable.
    5. Delaware-Well, it ain’t great.
    4. Syracuse-Very good uni. I think it needs just a touch of white.
    3. Rhode Island-It’s pretty bad.
    2. Wyoming-It doesn’t do much for me, but it’s not horrible.
    1. Oregon-It goes without saying, but I’ll say it anyway….THE worst college football uniform EVAH![/quote]

    I feel like most teams change something minor about their uniform each year. So if you look at almost any winner you could find something they changed. Look at how many times the Devil Rays have changed their uniforms and got nothing out of it.

  • Terry Mark | June 7, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”99068″][quote comment=”99056″][quote comment=”99052″][quote comment=”99047″][quote comment=”99044″]Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

    Has anybody ever noticed that the “D” on the Detroit Tigers cap is different than the one on thier jersey?[/quote]

    As a matter of fact, yes, it has been noticed.[/quote]

    People have been posting the CNNSI.COM article for 3 days now.[/quote]

    Yes, I know–that was the point of my comment…I should have used [sarcasm] tags…[/quote]

    Can regular readers of this blog please lay off those readers who don’t read each and every entry or each and every comment? That’s a very unwelcoming attitude to those who may have just found this community or simply don’t have the time to keep up daily.

    For the record, I check in here every day, though I may not sift through the 150-250 comments posted here.

    I appreciate everyone in this community who keeps such a watchful eye on the Uni-world, but I don’t appreciate readers who call out others in that way.

    To those who just picked up on SI’s list, or Detroit’s “D” logo oddity — Welcome to the discussion.

    Maybe we could help those readers who are annoyed by new visitors by setting up message boards so they can go off in their own corner.

  • Joe Young | June 7, 2007 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment=”99069″][quote comment=”99054″]P.S. The topic of my comment/blog is the relationship between uniforms and championships. It’s title: Uniform Change = Change in Success?!?
    Please read and comment/contribute.
    Thank you.[/quote]
    Hmmm, the Anaheim Ducks just won the cup with their new uniforms.
    The Denver Broncos won two Super Bowls in their first two years with those navy jerseys with the orange accents.
    The Anaheim Angels won the World Series shortly after switching away from the cartoonish uniforms and to the red hats.See for yourself.
    The Detroit Pistons, upon returning to red, white, and blue (may those teal things burn in hell).
    The Florida Marlins have double-luck with new uniforms: 1997 was the death of the teal hats, and a World Series, and 2003 featured the script-ish FLORIDA on the road uniforms, as opposed to the block, radial arched lettering, and another World Series. Complete history of Florida Marlins uniforms (thanks, Dressed to the Nines)
    The Cavaliers’ new uniforms came just in time for LeBron, does that count?
    That’s all I can think of right now, but there are numerous examples. To close, I recall an ESPN commercial that featured designers pitching new Buffalo Bills uniforms so they could win a Super Bowl, just like the Broncos.[/quote]

    The Baltimor Ravens changed their uniforms in 1999 becuase they supposdly stole original design from a security guard’s drawing. but any way they one the super bowl in 2000 in only the second year of those uni’s

  • SaveFarris | June 7, 2007 at 11:35 am |

    I wonder what the NBA would do if some players started doing this?

    http://farisyakob.ty

    That boundary has already been crossed.

  • The Ol Goaler | June 7, 2007 at 11:37 am |

    I realize I’m edging into “old fart”-dom with this comment, but I just don’t “get” tats. Having somebody stick ink-filled needles into my body to put some decoration on it just doesn’t appeal to me at all… while I wear clothing supporting my favorite teams (Cardinals, Blues, Mizzou, and Arkansas State) all the time, I’ve never considered having the “Birds on the Bat” or the “Blue Note” inked onto my skin for all time! (Whatever you do with your skin is your business, IMO…)

    Baseball’s “no sleeve tat” rules only apply to pitchers… they’re not allowed to have anything “distracting” on their pitching arms. That rule also reduced the use of those horrible “dot-matrix” undershirts; pitchers couldn’t use ’em!

  • Natron | June 7, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”99096″][quote comment=”99069″][quote comment=”99054″]P.S. The topic of my comment/blog is the relationship between uniforms and championships. It’s title: Uniform Change = Change in Success?!?
    Please read and comment/contribute.
    Thank you.[/quote]
    Hmmm, the Anaheim Ducks just won the cup with their new uniforms.
    The Denver Broncos won two Super Bowls in their first two years with those navy jerseys with the orange accents.
    The Anaheim Angels won the World Series shortly after switching away from the cartoonish uniforms and to the red hats.See for yourself.
    The Detroit Pistons, upon returning to red, white, and blue (may those teal things burn in hell).
    The Florida Marlins have double-luck with new uniforms: 1997 was the death of the teal hats, and a World Series, and 2003 featured the script-ish FLORIDA on the road uniforms, as opposed to the block, radial arched lettering, and another World Series. Complete history of Florida Marlins uniforms (thanks, Dressed to the Nines)
    The Cavaliers’ new uniforms came just in time for LeBron, does that count?
    That’s all I can think of right now, but there are numerous examples. To close, I recall an ESPN commercial that featured designers pitching new Buffalo Bills uniforms so they could win a Super Bowl, just like the Broncos.[/quote]

    The Baltimor Ravens changed their uniforms in 1999 becuase they supposdly stole original design from a security guard’s drawing. but any way they one the super bowl in 2000 in only the second year of those uni’s[/quote]

    The 1987 Twins did it. Prior to ’87, they had the pullover jerseys with the old logo and no pinstripes.

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”99078″]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0706/campus.ugly.uniforms/content.1.html?cnn=yes

    Anybody else seen this. It’s supposably SIOC’s assessment of the ten worst unifroms in college football, but for some reason they include Notre Dame.[/quote]

    I think this is the 5th or 6th time (since I originally posted it 48 hrs ago) that someone is mentioning (and assuming they’re the first to bring it up) the Top 10 Worst College Football Uniforms List…….

    I almost sort of feel like it’s a joke now. We’ll see if it continues later today and tomorrow…….

  • Terry Mark | June 7, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    I’ve noticed that the “Dressed to the Nines” database is flawed in that more recent years don’t include alternate jerseys or caps.

    (I’m going to duck now so no one will tear my head off for missing this point, which I’m sure was in comment no. 178 five months ago.)

  • Justin | June 7, 2007 at 11:45 am |

    I was playing around today looking at the “Dressed to the Nines” website. I took a look at the timeline. Look at 1969 , not sure how many people here would think that was “ingenious”

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    My friend always talked about getting the 3 colors (yellow, red, blue) of the Steelers logo tattooed on his heart, but it never happened yet.

    He also mentioned getting a Pirates “P” tattooed on him. I talked him out of that, thankfully. That team is like a AAAA team. Although, I’d love to see them smack around Clemens on Saturday!

  • tBone | June 7, 2007 at 11:48 am |

    I like Vince’s posts. I can tell when he writes without even looking at the byline. Good stuff.

  • Kenny | June 7, 2007 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”99071″][quote comment=”99044″]Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

    10. Utah-It’s kinda busy, but not in the top 10 worst.
    9. ND(green)-No way. Can’t stand ND, but those are great unis navy or green.
    8. Iowa St.-Not top 10 awful but they lose points for the reds on the helmet and jersey not matching.
    7. Clemson-Lose the pinstripes and this is a all time great.
    6. Air Force-Great uni. Immediately recognizable.
    5. Delaware-Well, it ain’t great.
    4. Syracuse-Very good uni. I think it needs just a touch of white.
    3. Rhode Island-It’s pretty bad.
    2. Wyoming-It doesn’t do much for me, but it’s not horrible.
    1. Oregon-It goes without saying, but I’ll say it anyway….THE worst college football uniform EVAH![/quote]

    So I had a nice long response to this, some I agreed with, some I didn’t, but let’s just say I wanna throw my computer through the wall for what it just did to me
    Here’s the short version:
    10. Not Top 10, maybe Top 15-20
    9. Not even close
    8. Again maybe Top 15-20
    7. Good looking just how they are (orange &
    whites that is)
    6. Get rid of the giant white side panel & then
    I’ll lean towards great
    5. But it’s not horrible either
    4. I like it how it is…kinda old school…maybe
    a lighter orange would make it better
    3. Agreed
    2. Get rid of the yellow pants…have yellow be
    an accent on white pants and on the sleeves
    1. No comment needed

    Some additions would be:

    Portland St.

    Bowling Green
    Missouri

    There are more but I don’t wanna lose my post again

  • Kyle O. | June 7, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    It seems as if the London Olympic Logo may be short lived

  • Jason | June 7, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”99102″]I’ve noticed that the “Dressed to the Nines” database is flawed in that more recent years don’t include alternate jerseys or caps.

    (I’m going to duck now so no one will tear my head off for missing this point, which I’m sure was in comment no. 178 five months ago.)[/quote]

    I’m not trying to start an argument here just tryting to make a point. Normally I would agree with you about someone posting something old thinking it was new, but there is a big difference between 5 months ago and 5 posts ago. I can understand someone missing something from a few days ago but this was literally less than an hour after someone else had done the same thing. At some point it becomes a nuisance and someone is going to say something.

  • Mr. Met | June 7, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”99095″]Can regular readers of this blog please lay off those readers who don’t read each and every entry or each and every comment? That’s a very unwelcoming attitude to those who may have just found this community or simply don’t have the time to keep up daily.

    For the record, I check in here every day, though I may not sift through the 150-250 comments posted here.[/quote]

    I agree, going through 150-250 comments is tiresome, and I do my fair share of skipping through the comments on occasion, but when it’s happened multiple times in the same thread when (at the time) it hasn’t even reached 60 comments just doesn’t make any sense.

    Of course we welcome all newbies with open arms, but here’s the thing about Uni-Watch: If it’s uni-related, 99.999999% of the time it’s been found, commented on, and we’ve moved on to the next topic. I’m not saying that to be a wiseass; it’s just the way it is.

  • todd krevanchi | June 7, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”99095″]Can regular readers of this blog please lay off those readers who don’t read each and every entry or each and every comment? That’s a very unwelcoming attitude to those who may have just found this community or simply don’t have the time to keep up daily.

    I appreciate everyone in this community who keeps such a watchful eye on the Uni-world, but I don’t appreciate readers who call out others in that way.[/quote]

    i agree. i understand for many of who have been here for the first year, seeing repeat posts, (kenny’s bp hat, si picture article, et al) might be, well, repetetive.

    as a part of a few message boards, i cant stand the separation and dislike of “newbies” from “veterans”. lets not have this happen here. this is too good of a community to have such disconnect.

    using the uniwatch google search mechanism located at the top is a good way to find what has been discussed in previous posts.

    also the control-f function to do a daily search.

    welcome to the blog. sorry that your initial impression left a sour taste in your mouth.

  • Charlie Mitchell | June 7, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    That article about Raikkonen’s tat is strangely outdated. He’s had that as far back as 2004 or 2005 if I remember correctly, long before he was a Ferrari driver. Even the picture of him is from 2006 in a McLaren uniform. The sun was by no means a new addition to his arm when he arrived in Malaysia this year.

  • MH | June 7, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    Cripes, The Air Force uni should get a pass from this SI list for their helmet bolt design alone–hands down one of the best, most recognizable, and envied. Moreover (and setting aside aesthetics), the USAFA players (as well as, I must admit, their counterparts at West Point and Annapolis) are truly remarkable young men who embody more than the student-athlete ideal: They selflessly commit to serving our nation. Consequently, regardless of what the Air Force uni looks like it deserves respect from SI.

  • WVU Tom | June 7, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”99102″]I’ve noticed that the “Dressed to the Nines” database is flawed in that more recent years don’t include alternate jerseys or caps.

    (I’m going to duck now so no one will tear my head off for missing this point, which I’m sure was in comment no. 178 five months ago.)[/quote]

    I’ve noticed that too, but not sure if anyone mentioned it–I perfer that model used for the pre-1995 entries to the newer ones.

    As far as I’m concerned, you’re safe as long as it wasn’t a topic already brought up today (especially if it has been mentioned for the past 3 or 4 days as well).

    By the way, has anyone ever noticed that the blue Dallas Cowboys pants don’t match the blue on the jerseys/helmets? … Just Kidding!

  • Welch | June 7, 2007 at 11:59 am |

    I have tats of the Padres Swingin’ Friar and the Bengals Tiger Head! I would post pics if i knew how. I am a rookie to the message board thing, but this one has me hooked for sure!

  • Ken | June 7, 2007 at 12:03 pm |

    The Baltimore Orioles will be having a tribute to the Negro League teams of Baltimore on September 6th this season. Official Press Release

    They will be honoring the 75th anniversary of the Baltimore Black Sox winning the 1932 East-West League championship (their only season in the league) by wearing throwback 1932 Black Sox uniforms (including this great looking cap) and having a pre-game ceremony.

    There are some small photos of the Black Sox in uniform here and here, though neither photo necessarily has the 1932 uniform.

    The Orioles embracing history? This is a red letter day! They didn’t even honor the 40th anniversary of their first World Series last season!

  • Jeremy | June 7, 2007 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”99110″][quote comment=”99102″]I’ve noticed that the “Dressed to the Nines” database is flawed in that more recent years don’t include alternate jerseys or caps.

    (I’m going to duck now so no one will tear my head off for missing this point, which I’m sure was in comment no. 178 five months ago.)[/quote]

    I’m not trying to start an argument here just tryting to make a point. Normally I would agree with you about someone posting something old thinking it was new, but there is a big difference between 5 months ago and 5 posts ago. I can understand someone missing something from a few days ago but this was literally less than an hour after someone else had done the same thing. At some point it becomes a nuisance and someone is going to say something.[/quote]
    What many people may not realize is that while you are writing a comment, it is likely that 5-10 comments are being posted at the same time. There’s no need to complain, if someone posts something that has already been posted, just ignore it, or nicely point out that it has already been posted. There’s enough bad people out there in the real world that don’t get along, theres no reason that we can’t get along on a message board. And I’m not saying that I am perfect in that regard, but everyone can stand to be a little more patient sometimes.

  • JMichaels | June 7, 2007 at 12:03 pm |

    I have the KC Chiefs arrowhead logo tattoo’d on the outside of my right ankle. I got it in about 1996 or so.

  • Surly | June 7, 2007 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”98978″]Brewers fans are the greatest[/quote]

    is there an internet site that sells the Beer Keg / Clock hats?

    I’d love to get my hands on one of those for Oktoberfest.

  • WVU Tom | June 7, 2007 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”99112″][quote comment=”99095″]Can regular readers of this blog please lay off those readers who don’t read each and every entry or each and every comment? That’s a very unwelcoming attitude to those who may have just found this community or simply don’t have the time to keep up daily.

    I appreciate everyone in this community who keeps such a watchful eye on the Uni-world, but I don’t appreciate readers who call out others in that way.[/quote]

    i agree. i understand for many of who have been here for the first year, seeing repeat posts, (kenny’s bp hat, si picture article, et al) might be, well, repetetive.

    as a part of a few message boards, i cant stand the separation and dislike of “newbies” from “veterans”. lets not have this happen here. this is too good of a community to have such disconnect.

    using the uniwatch google search mechanism located at the top is a good way to find what has been discussed in previous posts.

    also the control-f function to do a daily search.

    welcome to the blog. sorry that your initial impression left a sour taste in your mouth.[/quote]

    I apologize–I wasn’t trying to be rude or “call anyone out”. I was just trying to make a light hearted joke that would hopefully make a few of the “regulars” here chuckle.

    Having said that, I do feel that is the responsibility of every visitor, new or veteran, to check when posting that the topic they wish is discuss hasn’t already been brought up that day. (I’m not refering to this site specifically either, but any blog or forum site). That’s just the way I feel.

  • Terry Mark | June 7, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    Todd K, thanks for your comments. The last thing I want to do is turn off someone new. I’m not new to this community — I was just standing up for those that are.

    I get annoyed, too, by repetitive posts (as well as posts on topics I’m not interested in), but I just choose to ignore them.

    Smacking down someone who posted something redundant might drive them away, but what it won’t deter the next new person from posting about the San Diego Charges’ new powder blue-trimmed uniforms, for instance.

    Jason, no offense taken. I would theorize that if two people post the same thing within minutes of each other that they were not being inattentive to the thread but merely composing their posts at the same time and one clicked the “Say It!” button first.

    Now, what’s this I hear about Oregon’s football uniforms?

  • Terry Mark | June 7, 2007 at 12:19 pm |

    See? Jeremy beat me by 13 minutes.

  • susan | June 7, 2007 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”99071″][quote comment=”99044″]Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    http://sportsillustr...

    10. Utah-It’s kinda busy, but not in the top 10 worst.
    9. ND(green)-No way. Can’t stand ND, but those are great unis navy or green.
    8. Iowa St.-Not top 10 awful but they lose points for the reds on the helmet and jersey not matching.
    7. Clemson-Lose the pinstripes and this is a all time great.
    6. Air Force-Great uni. Immediately recognizable.
    5. Delaware-Well, it ain’t great.
    4. Syracuse-Very good uni. I think it needs just a touch of white.
    3. Rhode Island-It’s pretty bad.
    2. Wyoming-It doesn’t do much for me, but it’s not horrible.
    1. Oregon-It goes without saying, but I’ll say it anyway….THE worst college football uniform EVAH![/quote]

    I am just still surprised Oregon’s unis don’t say nike.com acroass the arse!

  • WVU Tom | June 7, 2007 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”99129″]

    Now, what’s this I hear about Oregon’s football uniforms?[/quote]

    Well…they’re green and bright yellow and just look fabulous!

  • Korch | June 7, 2007 at 12:26 pm |

    Don’t know if this has been mentioned, but Felipe Lopez of the Nationals wearing some ugly Easton high-top baseball cleats:

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • seven | June 7, 2007 at 12:26 pm |

    Becks wears long sleeves specifically to avoid offending people with his numerous tattoos. To my knowledge he doesn’t have anything particularly offensive (besides misspelling Posh’s name in Hindi). Some people are just uptight I guess. He has also stated that he has something of an addiction to getting tats.

    I had thought he just wore the sleeves to be stylish.

    (NB: Ted mentioned this a couple weeks back on the boards)

    Beckham has been wearing long-sleeves almost exclusively for much longer than he has had tatoos

  • seven | June 7, 2007 at 12:28 pm |
  • Terry Mark | June 7, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”99133″][quote comment=”99129″]

    Now, what’s this I hear about Oregon’s football uniforms?[/quote]

    Well…they’re green and bright yellow and just look fabulous![/quote]

    Do they look as good as the Minnesota Vikings? [sarcasm]

  • Willy Billy | June 7, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    I was at Petco Park last night and was thrilled when Trevor Hoffman reached 500 saves. I also took note that his teammates (led by Boomer Wells, Mike Cameron, and Heath Bell) carried him off the field on their shoulders. I’m sure there have been other instances in baseball where this has happened, but I can’t remember any. Maybe Joe Carter in Toronto after the World Series walk-off, but I can’t remember for sure. Can anybody help me out?

  • Amy | June 7, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”99114″]

    Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    Cripes, The Air Force uni should get a pass from this SI list for their helmet bolt design alone–hands down one of the best, most recognizable, and envied. Moreover (and setting aside aesthetics), the USAFA players (as well as, I must admit, their counterparts at West Point and Annapolis) are truly remarkable young men who embody more than the student-athlete ideal: They selflessly commit to serving our nation. Consequently, regardless of what the Air Force uni looks like it deserves respect from SI.[/quote]
    Glad to see I’m not the only one who was put off by Air Force’s inclusion in that list. Seems like the service academies should get a free pass for stuff like this.

  • The Ol Goaler | June 7, 2007 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”99108″]
    So I had a nice long response to this, some I agreed with, some I didn’t, but let’s just say I wanna throw my computer through the wall for what it just did to me

    Some additions would be:

    Missouri

    There are more but I don’t wanna lose my post again[/quote]

    Tastes differ… I actually prefer Mizzou’s “Black and (Old) Gold” combo, since that’s what they wore during my tenure as a Fighting Tiger from 1971-1975! (I could do without the pointless “Team Nike” stripes, but I guess ya can’t have everything…)

    On my earlier topic, apologies to Chris Creamer for an attempted link… This “Blue Note” should work!

  • Kenny | June 7, 2007 at 12:39 pm |

    I prefer the black and old gold as well…it’s the criss-crossing lines all over the place than ruin it for me

  • Shaftman | June 7, 2007 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”99139″]I was at Petco Park last night and was thrilled when Trevor Hoffman reached 500 saves. I also took note that his teammates (led by Boomer Wells, Mike Cameron, and Heath Bell) carried him off the field on their shoulders. I’m sure there have been other instances in baseball where this has happened, but I can’t remember any. Maybe Joe Carter in Toronto after the World Series walk-off, but I can’t remember for sure. Can anybody help me out?[/quote]

    I beleive David Cone was carried off after his perfect game as well as Dwight Gooden for his no-no. I don’t believe they got David Wells in the air after his perfect game [fill in fat joke here]

  • Terry Mark | June 7, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”99140″][quote comment=”99114″]

    Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    Cripes, The Air Force uni should get a pass from this SI list for their helmet bolt design alone–hands down one of the best, most recognizable, and envied. Moreover (and setting aside aesthetics), the USAFA players (as well as, I must admit, their counterparts at West Point and Annapolis) are truly remarkable young men who embody more than the student-athlete ideal: They selflessly commit to serving our nation. Consequently, regardless of what the Air Force uni looks like it deserves respect from SI.[/quote]
    Glad to see I’m not the only one who was put off by Air Force’s inclusion in that list. Seems like the service academies should get a free pass for stuff like this.[/quote]

    I’m not understanding the connection between respect for troops (or troops in training) and a critique of aesthetics. What does one have to do with the other?

    That said, I like Air Force’s uniforms as well as Navy’s and Army’s, but that doesn’t I respect the cadets or midshipmen more (or less).

  • WVU Tom | June 7, 2007 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”99109″]It seems as if the London Olympic Logo may be short lived[/quote]

    The item on ESPN’s Page 2 regarding the logo is pretty funny.

  • Jen | June 7, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    Then there’s Eric Milton. Starting in 1996 when he was drafted by the Yankees (although he never pitched a game for them in the majors) he got a tattoo of every major league team he’s played for.

  • Johnny O | June 7, 2007 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”99112″][quote comment=”99095″]Can regular readers of this blog please lay off those readers who don’t read each and every entry or each and every comment? That’s a very unwelcoming attitude to those who may have just found this community or simply don’t have the time to keep up daily.

    I appreciate everyone in this community who keeps such a watchful eye on the Uni-world, but I don’t appreciate readers who call out others in that way.[/quote]

    i agree. i understand for many of who have been here for the first year, seeing repeat posts, (kenny’s bp hat, si picture article, et al) might be, well, repetetive.

    as a part of a few message boards, i cant stand the separation and dislike of “newbies” from “veterans”. lets not have this happen here. this is too good of a community to have such disconnect.

    using the uniwatch google search mechanism located at the top is a good way to find what has been discussed in previous posts.

    also the control-f function to do a daily search.

    welcome to the blog. sorry that your initial impression left a sour taste in your mouth.[/quote]

    I didn’t mean to offend people or any other “newbies” to this great site. I actually did offer a suggestion to try and avoid the problem. And I understand if something breaks many posts will be about it around the same time.. that’s cool. Again, I didn’t mean to offend anyone or hinder them from coming to the comment section. Welcome to the site, and feel free to comment on whatever you want.

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”99139″]I was at Petco Park last night and was thrilled when Trevor Hoffman reached 500 saves. I also took note that his teammates (led by Boomer Wells, Mike Cameron, and Heath Bell) carried him off the field on their shoulders. I’m sure there have been other instances in baseball where this has happened, but I can’t remember any. Maybe Joe Carter in Toronto after the World Series walk-off, but I can’t remember for sure. Can anybody help me out?[/quote]

    Rudy at Notre Dame? [sarcasm]

  • tc | June 7, 2007 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”99096″][quote comment=”99069″][quote comment=”99054″]P.S. The topic of my comment/blog is the relationship between uniforms and championships. It’s title: Uniform Change = Change in Success?!?
    Please read and comment/contribute.
    Thank you.[/quote]
    Hmmm, the Anaheim Ducks just won the cup with their new uniforms.
    The Denver Broncos won two Super Bowls in their first two years with those navy jerseys with the orange accents.
    The Anaheim Angels won the World Series shortly after switching away from the cartoonish uniforms and to the red hats.See for yourself.
    The Detroit Pistons, upon returning to red, white, and blue (may those teal things burn in hell).
    The Florida Marlins have double-luck with new uniforms: 1997 was the death of the teal hats, and a World Series, and 2003 featured the script-ish FLORIDA on the road uniforms, as opposed to the block, radial arched lettering, and another World Series. Complete history of Florida Marlins uniforms (thanks, Dressed to the Nines)
    The Cavaliers’ new uniforms came just in time for LeBron, does that count?
    That’s all I can think of right now, but there are numerous examples. To close, I recall an ESPN commercial that featured designers pitching new Buffalo Bills uniforms so they could win a Super Bowl, just like the Broncos.[/quote]

    The Baltimor Ravens changed their uniforms in 1999 becuase they supposdly stole original design from a security guard’s drawing. but any way they one the super bowl in 2000 in only the second year of those uni’s[/quote]

    The Phillies got new uniforms in ’92 and finished in last place. Then got to the World Series in ’93. Not much since then. :(

  • Johnny O | June 7, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”99123″][quote comment=”98978″]Brewers fans are the greatest[/quote]

    is there an internet site that sells the Beer Keg / Clock hats?

    I’d love to get my hands on one of those for Oktoberfest.[/quote]

    I have seen a lot of people with those at Miller Park throughout the years, and they look professionally done. However, I am not sure where to get one. I’ll look on the net and see what I can find. If not, the best bet is if I see someone with one at the next Brewer game I go to..I will ask them how/where they got it.

  • Natron | June 7, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”99145″][quote comment=”99139″]I was at Petco Park last night and was thrilled when Trevor Hoffman reached 500 saves. I also took note that his teammates (led by Boomer Wells, Mike Cameron, and Heath Bell) carried him off the field on their shoulders. I’m sure there have been other instances in baseball where this has happened, but I can’t remember any. Maybe Joe Carter in Toronto after the World Series walk-off, but I can’t remember for sure. Can anybody help me out?[/quote]

    I beleive David Cone was carried off after his perfect game as well as Dwight Gooden for his no-no. I don’t believe they got David Wells in the air after his perfect game [fill in fat joke here][/quote]

    As a Twins fan, unfortunately I can confirm that David Wells was hoisted into the air and carried off on the shoulders of his teammates, trainers, front office staff, stadium security, several dozen Yankee fans, and 4 police horses.

  • tc | June 7, 2007 at 12:51 pm |
  • tc | June 7, 2007 at 12:52 pm |
  • Johnny O | June 7, 2007 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”99145″][quote comment=”99139″]I was at Petco Park last night and was thrilled when Trevor Hoffman reached 500 saves. I also took note that his teammates (led by Boomer Wells, Mike Cameron, and Heath Bell) carried him off the field on their shoulders. I’m sure there have been other instances in baseball where this has happened, but I can’t remember any. Maybe Joe Carter in Toronto after the World Series walk-off, but I can’t remember for sure. Can anybody help me out?[/quote]

    I beleive David Cone was carried off after his perfect game as well as Dwight Gooden for his no-no. I don’t believe they got David Wells in the air after his perfect game [fill in fat joke here][/quote]
    They actually did get him up on the shoulders.

    Wells

  • todd krevanchi | June 7, 2007 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”99145″][quote comment=”99139″]I was at Petco Park last night and was thrilled when Trevor Hoffman reached 500 saves. I also took note that his teammates (led by Boomer Wells, Mike Cameron, and Heath Bell) carried him off the field on their shoulders. I’m sure there have been other instances in baseball where this has happened, but I can’t remember any. Maybe Joe Carter in Toronto after the World Series walk-off, but I can’t remember for sure. Can anybody help me out?[/quote]

    I beleive David Cone was carried off after his perfect game as well as Dwight Gooden for his no-no. I don’t believe they got David Wells in the air after his perfect game [fill in fat joke here][/quote]

    they got him up…
    http://www.geocities...

    coney
    http://www.amny.com/...

    remember this guy?
    http://www.seanastin...
    at the end of this movie they state that no other player has ever been carried off the field… which is wrong…

    and this guy?
    http://www.doubleazo...

    players and coaches alike have been carried off the field…

  • Johnny O | June 7, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    See…tc beat me to it.

  • tc | June 7, 2007 at 12:55 pm |

    wow

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”99159″][quote comment=”99145″][quote comment=”99139″]I was at Petco Park last night and was thrilled when Trevor Hoffman reached 500 saves. I also took note that his teammates (led by Boomer Wells, Mike Cameron, and Heath Bell) carried him off the field on their shoulders. I’m sure there have been other instances in baseball where this has happened, but I can’t remember any. Maybe Joe Carter in Toronto after the World Series walk-off, but I can’t remember for sure. Can anybody help me out?[/quote]

    I beleive David Cone was carried off after his perfect game as well as Dwight Gooden for his no-no. I don’t believe they got David Wells in the air after his perfect game [fill in fat joke here][/quote]

    they got him up…
    http://www.geocities...

    coney
    http://www.amny.com/...

    remember this guy?
    http://www.seanastin...
    at the end of this movie they state that no other player has ever been carried off the field… which is wrong…

    and this guy?
    http://www.doubleazo...

    players and coaches alike have been carried off the field…[/quote]

    This guy wasn’t slim either:

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Shaftman | June 7, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”99159″][quote comment=”99145″][quote comment=”99139″]I was at Petco Park last night and was thrilled when Trevor Hoffman reached 500 saves. I also took note that his teammates (led by Boomer Wells, Mike Cameron, and Heath Bell) carried him off the field on their shoulders. I’m sure there have been other instances in baseball where this has happened, but I can’t remember any. Maybe Joe Carter in Toronto after the World Series walk-off, but I can’t remember for sure. Can anybody help me out?[/quote]

    I beleive David Cone was carried off after his perfect game as well as Dwight Gooden for his no-no. I don’t believe they got David Wells in the air after his perfect game [fill in fat joke here][/quote]

    they got him up…
    http://www.geocities...

    coney
    http://www.amny.com/...

    remember this guy?
    http://www.seanastin...
    at the end of this movie they state that no other player has ever been carried off the field… which is wrong…

    and this guy?
    http://www.doubleazo...

    players and coaches alike have been carried off the field…[/quote]

    Consider me chagrined.

  • Matt B | June 7, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    Historical sports uniforms make the Economist. Registration might be required.

    And I think the remark about the Tigers’ cap and jersey logos has officially reach “running joke” status. It’s been used several times already in response to redundant posts.

    In Soviet Russia, uniforms wear you!

  • tc | June 7, 2007 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”99139″]I was at Petco Park last night and was thrilled when Trevor Hoffman reached 500 saves. I also took note that his teammates (led by Boomer Wells, Mike Cameron, and Heath Bell) carried him off the field on their shoulders. I’m sure there have been other instances in baseball where this has happened, but I can’t remember any. Maybe Joe Carter in Toronto after the World Series walk-off, but I can’t remember for sure. Can anybody help me out?[/quote]

    ooh! ooh! here’s another one!

    2006 ALCS

  • Forrest | June 7, 2007 at 1:01 pm |

    All right…now that the Stanley Cup has been won, when to we get to see the new Capitals uniforms?

  • tc | June 7, 2007 at 1:01 pm |
  • Mike | June 7, 2007 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”99098″]I realize I’m edging into “old fart”-dom with this comment, but I just don’t “get” tats. Having somebody stick ink-filled needles into my body to put some decoration on it just doesn’t appeal to me at all… while I wear clothing supporting my favorite teams (Cardinals, Blues, Mizzou, and Arkansas State) all the time, I’ve never considered having the “Birds on the Bat” or the “Blue Note” inked onto my skin for all time! (Whatever you do with your skin is your business, IMO…)

    Baseball’s “no sleeve tat” rules only apply to pitchers… they’re not allowed to have anything “distracting” on their pitching arms. That rule also reduced the use of those horrible “dot-matrix” undershirts; pitchers couldn’t use ’em![/quote]
    I’m with you. My problem with Tats is the commitment. Permanent is a long time.

  • Shaftman | June 7, 2007 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”99169″]All right…now that the Stanley Cup has been won, when to we get to see the new Capitals uniforms?[/quote]

    Arent these the new uni’s [sarcasm]

  • Jason | June 7, 2007 at 1:10 pm |

    I’d be intrested to know who the first person carried off a sporting surface (for lack of a more fitting term) was. Probably impossible to track down though.

  • jesse | June 7, 2007 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”99140″][quote comment=”99114″]

    Can’t say I agree with these, but SI.com has a photo gallery of the top 10 ugliest current college football uniforms:

    Cripes, The Air Force uni should get a pass from this SI list for their helmet bolt design alone–hands down one of the best, most recognizable, and envied. Moreover (and setting aside aesthetics), the USAFA players (as well as, I must admit, their counterparts at West Point and Annapolis) are truly remarkable young men who embody more than the student-athlete ideal: They selflessly commit to serving our nation. Consequently, regardless of what the Air Force uni looks like it deserves respect from SI.[/quote]
    Glad to see I’m not the only one who was put off by Air Force’s inclusion in that list. Seems like the service academies should get a free pass for stuff like this.[/quote]

    Why?

    The guy said the uniforms were ugly, and by all objective standars they are (with the exception of the helmet, not that they are acting in concert with Al Qaeda to bring abuot the fall of western civilization.

    The USAFA is a great school with great students that take on a lot of challanges. Their football team wears ugly uniforms. The second thing does not have anything to do with the first.

  • Andy | June 7, 2007 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”99014″][quote comment=”99011″]Paul,

    is that a foot / shoe measure on the right arm?[/quote]

    excuse me, dont you mean brannock device?[/quote]

    I love it!
    These are the replies that I get the biggest kick out of in the comment threads here.
    I love it when someone points out the name for something that’s actually pretty trivial and makes it sound like it’s common knowledge.
    “You fool! Any idiot knows those foot measurers are called brannock devices!”

    Classic!

  • Minna H. | June 7, 2007 at 1:28 pm |

    Wow. Excellent article, Vince. It’s about time tats got some love.

    I don’t have any sports-related tats because I prefer my tats to have symbolic meaning. I am not attached to any team enough to have a logo tattooed on me. I have four, by the way, and I am by no means cool.

    As for the repetitive posts, I didn’t think anybody was being mean about it. WVU Tom pointed it out in a funny, subtle way (so subtle, most people didn’t pick up on it), and other people have valid points and good tips as well.

    Oh, Vince, thanks for posting male volleyball players as well as female ones. It is much appreciated.

  • Matthew S. | June 7, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    No one has mentioned Hank Blalock of the Texas Rangers who has a word tattooed up the side of his right forearm (can’t remember if he has anything on the left forearm). I couldn’t find any pictures to illustrate this. The tattoo is fairly difficult to show anyway during a game because Blalock covers most of it by wearing large wrist bands on both arms.

    The Rangers actually had a local cable commercial making light of this a couple of years ago when Blalock took a temporary butterfly tattoo that Mark Teixieria was considering putting on himself. I’d look for the commercial, which was pretty hysterical, but I know there’s no way I’d find it.

  • pete m | June 7, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    Is there some chemical in brats that causes the eater to want to wear oversized foam objects on their heads ? Just wondering. It seems prevelant particularly to denizens of Wisconsin. Funny. I’m having trouble picturing Boston/New York/Chicago fans wearing such cartoonish hats.
    Plus my 86 year old father is from Milwaukee and I’m having hard time picturing him in one of those hats.

  • Eric | June 7, 2007 at 1:32 pm |

    Went to the Dbaacks – Giants game last night, and made a couple observations

    1. The Dbaacks uniforms are worse than I thought. Even when they are buttoned up properly, the slightest movement mis-aligns the top of the “a” across the placket. The left side (top) “a” inevitably rides higher that the right side. As each batter comes to the plate, the Jumbotron showed a body shot from the waist up, and EVERY player had this problem while standing still! I was able to point this atrocity out to several Dbaacks fans in the vinicinty who hadn’t ever noticed it.

    2. The “Dbacks” logo itself is quite large on the jersey itself, and shrinking it just slightly would allow the logo to be split cleanly at Dba cks, or increasing the size of the capital D while slightly shrinking the other letters it would split nicely at Db acks

    As in many other areas, the new Ownership just doesn’t “get it”. 24,000 for a game against what could be argued as your #1 divisional rival is not good (Wednesday night or not). Several years ago, the Giants in town mid week would draw 30 to 35,000 minimum.

    – oh yeah, Giants Dan Ortmeier is still without his left sleeve patch, which is stupid since that patch has been standard on the Giants road uni for a couple of years, I beleive. It was on a blank Authentic jersey in the Dbaacks Team Shop.

  • Willy Billy | June 7, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”99159″][quote comment=”99145″][quote comment=”99139″]I was at Petco Park last night and was thrilled when Trevor Hoffman reached 500 saves. I also took note that his teammates (led by Boomer Wells, Mike Cameron, and Heath Bell) carried him off the field on their shoulders. I’m sure there have been other instances in baseball where this has happened, but I can’t remember any. Maybe Joe Carter in Toronto after the World Series walk-off, but I can’t remember for sure. Can anybody help me out?[/quote]

    I beleive David Cone was carried off after his perfect game as well as Dwight Gooden for his no-no. I don’t believe they got David Wells in the air after his perfect game [fill in fat joke here][/quote]

    they got him up…
    http://www.geocities...

    players and coaches alike have been carried off the field…[/quote]

    I know it happens occassionally in other sports, but I think it’s pretty rare in baseball.

    I had forgotten about the Yankees’ examples, thanks for reminding me.

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”99184″][quote comment=”99014″][quote comment=”99011″]Paul,

    is that a foot / shoe measure on the right arm?[/quote]

    excuse me, dont you mean brannock device?[/quote]

    I love it!
    These are the replies that I get the biggest kick out of in the comment threads here.
    I love it when someone points out the name for something that’s actually pretty trivial and makes it sound like it’s common knowledge.
    “You fool! Any idiot knows those foot measurers are called brannock devices!”

    Classic![/quote]

    Andy, your response of “You Fool!” made me think of a very funny moment from the tv show Hollywood Squares…..

    http://www.youtube.c...

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 1:59 pm |

    More players carried off the field:

    http://sportsillustr...
    Doug Mientkiewicz (who knew?)

    http://imagecache2.a...
    Josh Beckett (I love when away players get carried off the field at Yankee Stadium!)

    http://pages.prodigy...
    Jerry Rice

    http://www.taipeitim...
    Iowa receiver Warren Holloway is carried off the field on the shoulders of his teammates after scoring on a 56-yard pass on the final play to give Iowa a 30-25 win in the Capital One Bowl over Louisiana State in Orlando, Florida on Saturday.

  • Kyle at IU | June 7, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    Cool to see a Formula 1 shout out on my most favorite of blogs. My question about Kimi’s little happy sun on his wrist (which doesn’t fit his on-track personality in the least): why is it a big deal when, on the track, it’s entirely covered up?

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 2:02 pm |

    Two more:

    Joe Paterno (after his 300th win)
    http://www.psu.edu/s...

    Bobby Bowden
    http://www2.jsonline...

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | June 7, 2007 at 2:02 pm |

    Someone ripped ol’ Vince up higher in the comments, but I couldn’t disagree more. I love Paul but I enjoy Vince’s stuff just as much. Plus, he’s a Clevelander, which puts him several steps ahead of the rest of you all anyway.

    Just kidding, but not really.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | June 7, 2007 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”99191″]

    Andy, your response of “You Fool!” made me think of a very funny moment from the tv show Hollywood Squares…..

    http://www.youtube.c...

    wow that was painful

  • JayD | June 7, 2007 at 2:13 pm |

    Re: Tattoos, I’ve heard that Jason Giambi was told by George Steinbrenner to cover up his visible tattoos. Thus you’ll notice Giambi has a longer sleeve on his right arm then his left. or its a neoprene brace. Either way its to hide one of his sleeves. http://graphics.bost...

  • Jean | June 7, 2007 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”98989″]Justin Miller also has I-D-I-O and A-M-O-R on each of his knuckles.

    (LOVE and HATE for those non-Spanish speaking Uni Watchers)[/quote]

    Hate is Odio in spanish…not idio

  • Kel | June 7, 2007 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”98967″]… off day eh, Paul?

    Sigh.[/quote]

    Don’t like the topic? Don’t read it. But why trash Vince? Oh right, troll. Never mind.

    I thought the article was kind of cool, as I didn’t know that there were so many rules and discrepancies with regard to ink in pro sports.

    I know the Marines have started regulating how far down the arms and legs tattoos can be done. I wonder if the same arguments will come up in pro sports of “uniform” and looking “professional” clash with personal right to modify your body.

  • Jeff W | June 7, 2007 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”98988″]Here’s a story from last year about a cyclist, David Clinger who got a full face tattoo and his team was not at all pleased.[/quote]

    I was going to bring this one up. I didn’t think that anyone else would have heard of that. I think he ended up getting it removed.

  • Tom C. | June 7, 2007 at 2:29 pm |

    awful band-like hats on the ESPN2 live draft. That kid just drafted by the Cubs had the flattest brim possible.

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”99203″][quote comment=”98989″]Justin Miller also has I-D-I-O and A-M-O-R on each of his knuckles.

    (LOVE and HATE for those non-Spanish speaking Uni Watchers)[/quote]

    Hate is Odio in spanish…not idio[/quote]

    Oops, I stand corrected……..

    Justin Miller also has a tattoo on his inner lip…..see below:

    There, just below an oozing layer of brown chewing tobacco that is plastered to the front of his teeth, is the number 5150, tattooed on the fleshy surface.

    “Cop talk,” relief pitcher Justin Miller said matter-of-factly after releasing his lip and allowing it to refold back in place, “for legally insane.”

  • Kel | June 7, 2007 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”99203″][quote comment=”98989″]Justin Miller also has I-D-I-O and A-M-O-R on each of his knuckles.

    (LOVE and HATE for those non-Spanish speaking Uni Watchers)[/quote]

    Hate is Odio in spanish…not idio[/quote]

    Maybe Justin added a “T” on the knuckle of his thumb?

  • Chance | June 7, 2007 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”99153″][quote comment=”99123″][quote comment=”98978″]Brewers fans are the greatest[/quote]

    is there an internet site that sells the Beer Keg / Clock hats?

    I’d love to get my hands on one of those for Oktoberfest.[/quote]

    I have seen a lot of people with those at Miller Park throughout the years, and they look professionally done. However, I am not sure where to get one. I’ll look on the net and see what I can find. If not, the best bet is if I see someone with one at the next Brewer game I go to..I will ask them how/where they got it.[/quote]
    Thanks – I’d love one myself….

  • B.G. | June 7, 2007 at 2:48 pm |

    Sorry – the Leyland link didn’t go through. Try this one. If it still doesn’t work, I’ll quit, I promise!

  • Seth H | June 7, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    Check out these eyesores: http://www.nytimes.c...

    Pinstripe pants, solid tops and pinstriped hats just do not work.

    The article mentions that the team has 5 uniforms. That’s 3 more than any prep (or other) team should have.

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”99216″]Sorry – the Leyland link didn’t go through. Try this one. If it still doesn’t work, I’ll quit, I promise![/quote]

    It worked, but comment #127 beat you to it!

  • Scott | June 7, 2007 at 3:02 pm |

    Anyone realize Mench is wearing an nfl equipment shirt? If anyone already noted this, sorry.
    http://sportsillustr...

  • Alex | June 7, 2007 at 3:11 pm |

    Many NBA players has/had And1 logo tattooed looks like this

    http://blikje.net/fo...

    Does it consider logo creep? Also, many players have signed with other shoe companies (mainly Nike,) I doubt Nike will pay their athletes to laser remove the And 1 logo.

  • Ian K | June 7, 2007 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”99188″]Went to the Dbaacks – Giants game last night, and made a couple observations
    [/quote]

    Maybe Arizona is trying to score a sponsorship from American Airlines. My dad has worked there for 28 years and every campaign or promotion I’ve seen uses the double A logo. Examples: AAdvantage, QuAAlity, cAArs, etc. Just make the change to dbAAcks with the red and blue.

  • todd krevanchi | June 7, 2007 at 3:22 pm |

    i remember back when master p had that sports management group, no limit sports management.

    these contracts were highly incentive and performance based.

    derek anderson, ron mercer and ricky williams were its highest level clients. clients were referred to as no limit soldiers and many got the no limit logo tatted on their bodies…

  • Jaye | June 7, 2007 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”99043″] …. and my favorite tat, which I know I’ll never have the balls to get, is the spider web on the elbow.[/quote]

    Andruw Jones has that one (can’t find a pic). Both my boys say they’re getting one when they get older. I can’t begin to imagine how long something like that takes (the tattoo, not them moving out).

  • Jeff W | June 7, 2007 at 3:30 pm |

    Did anyone notice how truly uninspiring the Ducks Stanley Cup Champions hats were? Nothing say champion like concrete gray. Blah.

  • Dane | June 7, 2007 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”99069″][quote comment=”99054″]P.S. The topic of my comment/blog is the relationship between uniforms and championships. It’s title: Uniform Change = Change in Success?!?
    Please read and comment/contribute.
    Thank you.[/quote]
    Hmmm, the Anaheim Ducks just won the cup with their new uniforms.
    The Denver Broncos won two Super Bowls in their first two years with those navy jerseys with the orange accents.
    The Anaheim Angels won the World Series shortly after switching away from the cartoonish uniforms and to the red hats.See for yourself.
    The Detroit Pistons, upon returning to red, white, and blue (may those teal things burn in hell).
    The Florida Marlins have double-luck with new uniforms: 1997 was the death of the teal hats, and a World Series, and 2003 featured the script-ish FLORIDA on the road uniforms, as opposed to the block, radial arched lettering, and another World Series. Complete history of Florida Marlins uniforms (thanks, Dressed to the Nines)
    The Cavaliers’ new uniforms came just in time for LeBron, does that count?
    That’s all I can think of right now, but there are numerous examples. To close, I recall an ESPN commercial that featured designers pitching new Buffalo Bills uniforms so they could win a Super Bowl, just like the Broncos.[/quote]

    The Pittsburgh Penguins won back-to-back Cups in ’91 and ’92, changed uniforms for ’92-’93 to cash in, and haven’t been back to the Cup Finals ever since.

  • Mike | June 7, 2007 at 3:35 pm |

    What’s the link to the hat surgery site that gives instructions on fixing the high crown?

    Thanks

  • Johnny O | June 7, 2007 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”99213″][quote comment=”99153″][quote comment=”99123″][quote comment=”98978″]Brewers fans are the greatest[/quote]

    is there an internet site that sells the Beer Keg / Clock hats?

    I’d love to get my hands on one of those for Oktoberfest.[/quote]

    I have seen a lot of people with those at Miller Park throughout the years, and they look professionally done. However, I am not sure where to get one. I’ll look on the net and see what I can find. If not, the best bet is if I see someone with one at the next Brewer game I go to..I will ask them how/where they got it.[/quote]
    Thanks – I’d love one myself….[/quote]
    I found the jackpot. Turns out a guy from Fond Du Lac, WI makes many of them. And it looks like you can get whatever you want in a foam hat. Some of them look pretty frickin’ sweet.

    Foam hats

  • Johnny O | June 7, 2007 at 3:43 pm |

    These hats just get better and better…May I just say I love Wisconsin, and better yet I love Wisconsin sports fans…

    Miller Park
    Miller Park 2
    La-la-la Lambeau Fieeeeeeld
    The power of cheese

  • Kenny | June 7, 2007 at 3:47 pm |

    Doug Mientkiewicz (who knew?) Nice off center ‘S’

  • todd krevanchi | June 7, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    a. not a hockey fan, but nothing beats the on ice celebration for the presentation of the stanley cup.

    b. i’ll take a stab at the title pic and say that the “tlb” are initials for travis barker of blink… the worlds greatest drummer.

    c. as far as tats go, ive always wanted to get the one becks has on his back.
    http://i15.tinypic.c...

  • concealed78 | June 7, 2007 at 3:57 pm |

    Blah on permanent tattoos. They look awful, the colors are faded and weak, and they look unprofessional and tacky & thugish at times. I mean, what are you people trying to prove by putting ink in your skin? My old man has a nice green smudge on his arm that once was a bald eagle. Just my 2 cents, bit a sore subject for my part.

  • Joe H | June 7, 2007 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”99118″]The Baltimore Orioles will be having a tribute to the Negro League teams of Baltimore on September 6th this season. Official Press Release

    They will be honoring the 75th anniversary of the Baltimore Black Sox winning the 1932 East-West League championship (their only season in the league) by wearing throwback 1932 Black Sox uniforms (including this great looking cap) and having a pre-game ceremony.

    There are some small photos of the Black Sox in uniform here and here, though neither photo necessarily has the 1932 uniform.

    The Orioles embracing history? This is a red letter day! They didn’t even honor the 40th anniversary of their first World Series last season![/quote]

    I am just baffled by this team! First they wont change the road jerseys (and if they did, they would look like this), then like you said, have no mention of the 66 team last year, but now decide to honor Baltimore History? Just don’t understand their Busch League marketing department…

  • Joey Guns | June 7, 2007 at 4:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”99234″]a. not a hockey fan, but nothing beats the on ice celebration for the presentation of the stanley cup.

    b. i’ll take a stab at the title pic and say that the “tlb” are initials for travis barker of blink… the worlds greatest drummer.

    c. as far as tats go, ive always wanted to get the one becks has on his back.
    http://i15.tinypic.c...

    Don’t get the BROOKLYN tramp stamp though!

    http://www.tattoos-b...

    I know, I know, Brooklyn is his son’s name, but still, is a tramp stamp of your son’s name necessary???)

  • Kenny | June 7, 2007 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”99230″]What’s the link to the hat surgery site that gives instructions on fixing the high crown?

    Thanks[/quote]

    http://bugsandcranks...

  • James Craven | June 7, 2007 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”98969″]“The morning show on the Dallas sports station went over the SI Top Ten Worst College Uniforms list this morning. It was rather lazy of them to simply read and comment on a list that was so haphazardly put together in the first place.

    “It makes me crazy that the SI list, which contained no explanation of the selections, is getting this kind of attention.”[/quote]

    Which Dallas sports radio station?

    First, I gotta agree on Oregon. If I was Oregon’s head coach, green helmet full time, green jersey at home, white jersey away, no names on the back of said jersey, black shoes, gold pants (not that yellow highlighter carptacular) and white socks.

    Delaware? WTF?! Tubby Raymond, Dave’s dad (aka the original Phillie Phanatic) is in disbelief. The late Admiral Dave Nelson brought the helmet from Michigan via Princeton IIRC. As for Rhode Island, don’t blame them. Light blue and white (save for Carolina and Columbia) is rare in the sports color scheme.

    BTW, don’t EVER mention Joe :censored: Carter here in Philadelphia.

  • Kenny | June 7, 2007 at 4:20 pm |

    This is becoming almost a weekly occurrence, a sort of funny Chien-Ming Wang article title….

    http://www.sj-r.com/...
    I don’t understand what’s funny about that one.

    Call me stupid, but I don’t get it either…. I’ve seen these Wang/Yanks posts on this site, but I don’t get the joke.

  • Ian K | June 7, 2007 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”99244″][quote comment=”98969″]“The morning show on the Dallas sports station went over the SI Top Ten Worst College Uniforms list this morning. It was rather lazy of them to simply read and comment on a list that was so haphazardly put together in the first place.

    “It makes me crazy that the SI list, which contained no explanation of the selections, is getting this kind of attention.”[/quote]

    Which Dallas sports radio station?

    [/quote]

    It was Dunham & Miller on The Ticket (1310 AM).

  • Sam | June 7, 2007 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”99248″]This is becoming almost a weekly occurrence, a sort of funny Chien-Ming Wang article title….

    http://www.sj-r.com/...
    I don’t understand what’s funny about that one.

    Call me stupid, but I don’t get it either…. I’ve seen these Wang/Yanks posts on this site, but I don’t get the joke.[/quote]

    Wang = male genitalia

  • MikeyB | June 7, 2007 at 4:33 pm |

    I don’t know if this has been brought up before, but, I was looking at NHLUniforms.com and apparentley that Washington Capitals were going to switch uniforms in 2000-2001 but didn’t. Maybe there new sweaters might look like that.

  • subway | June 7, 2007 at 4:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”99229″][quote comment=”99069″][quote comment=”99054″]P.S. The topic of my comment/blog is the relationship between uniforms and championships. It’s title: Uniform Change = Change in Success?!?
    Please read and comment/contribute.
    Thank you.[/quote]
    Hmmm, the Anaheim Ducks just won the cup with their new uniforms.
    The Denver Broncos won two Super Bowls in their first two years with those navy jerseys with the orange accents.
    The Anaheim Angels won the World Series shortly after switching away from the cartoonish uniforms and to the red hats.See for yourself.
    The Detroit Pistons, upon returning to red, white, and blue (may those teal things burn in hell).
    The Florida Marlins have double-luck with new uniforms: 1997 was the death of the teal hats, and a World Series, and 2003 featured the script-ish FLORIDA on the road uniforms, as opposed to the block, radial arched lettering, and another World Series. Complete history of Florida Marlins uniforms (thanks, Dressed to the Nines)
    The Cavaliers’ new uniforms came just in time for LeBron, does that count?
    That’s all I can think of right now, but there are numerous examples. To close, I recall an ESPN commercial that featured designers pitching new Buffalo Bills uniforms so they could win a Super Bowl, just like the Broncos.[/quote]

    The Pittsburgh Penguins won back-to-back Cups in ’91 and ’92, changed uniforms for ’92-’93 to cash in, and haven’t been back to the Cup Finals ever since.[/quote]
    Other teams I can think of who changed jerseys after winning a title include the 94-95 Houston Rockets, 1999 Super Bowl champion St. Louis Rams, 1979 Pirates (white home jersey in 1980) and 1986 Mets (new road uni in 87) None of those teams have won a championship since. Anyone know of any others?

  • Vincent A. Cipollone | June 7, 2007 at 4:40 pm |

    I think the spam filter is having a field day with me

  • Perry | June 7, 2007 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”99139″]I was at Petco Park last night and was thrilled when Trevor Hoffman reached 500 saves. I also took note that his teammates (led by Boomer Wells, Mike Cameron, and Heath Bell) carried him off the field on their shoulders. I’m sure there have been other instances in baseball where this has happened, but I can’t remember any. Maybe Joe Carter in Toronto after the World Series walk-off, but I can’t remember for sure. Can anybody help me out?[/quote]

    Bobby Thomson in ’51. Jim Lonborg in ’67.

  • concealed78 | June 7, 2007 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”99188″]Went to the Dbaacks – Giants game last night, and made a couple observations

    1. The Dbaacks uniforms are worse than I thought. Even when they are buttoned up properly, the slightest movement mis-aligns the top of the “a” across the placket. The left side (top) “a” inevitably rides higher that the right side. As each batter comes to the plate, the Jumbotron showed a body shot from the waist up, and EVERY player had this problem while standing still! I was able to point this atrocity out to several Dbaacks fans in the vinicinty who hadn’t ever noticed it. [/quote]

    All more the reason to bring back pullovers. Broken-up scripts drive me crazy.

  • Broker75 | June 7, 2007 at 4:50 pm |

    After reading that hat surgery thing, I think I’d rather beat the crap out of it and say screw it!..

  • tedkerwin | June 7, 2007 at 4:52 pm |

    From an e-mail newsletter.

    The Trenton Thunder will be wearing special camouflage jerseys on Thursday, June 14th as part of the U.S. Army’s 232nd birthday celebration.

  • Vince Grzegorek | June 7, 2007 at 5:00 pm |

    Thanks to all those who like my posts.

    I know some of the stories and pics in the post were ‘dated’ but I wanted to cover as much history of tattoos (both real and temporary) in terms of uniforms as possible.

    By far, I think Paul’s is the best.

    –Vince

  • Ryan | June 7, 2007 at 5:12 pm |

    What in the world would possess somebody to have a corporate logo plastered onto his skin for life?

    They’re turning their bodies into walking billboards.

  • Eric | June 7, 2007 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”99263″]After reading that hat surgery thing, I think I’d rather beat the crap out of it and say screw it!..[/quote]

    Broker you should definitely do the surgery, it’s not that complicated. The web directions actually make it appear more complicated than it is/should be. The key is getting rid of the black wirey stuff, they are the culprit in “stovepipe hat” effect.

    The first time I did the surgery, I had just had it explained to me kind of like this: Be careful on the first cut so you dont ruin the hat, separate the white threads from the black wires and start pulling.

    Only after doing it did I realize that the white threads are basically only interwoven in the black wires, and that you need to run your fingers around the edges for missed black wires . . .

    So go for it, it’s easy!

  • Jason | June 7, 2007 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”99272″][quote comment=”99263″]After reading that hat surgery thing, I think I’d rather beat the crap out of it and say screw it!..[/quote]

    Broker you should definitely do the surgery, it’s not that complicated. The web directions actually make it appear more complicated than it is/should be. The key is getting rid of the black wirey stuff, they are the culprit in “stovepipe hat” effect.

    The first time I did the surgery, I had just had it explained to me kind of like this: Be careful on the first cut so you dont ruin the hat, separate the white threads from the black wires and start pulling.

    Only after doing it did I realize that the white threads are basically only interwoven in the black wires, and that you need to run your fingers around the edges for missed black wires . . .

    So go for it, it’s easy![/quote]

    Is it necessary that the white threads and strap come out? I’ve got a new 59/50 and definitely don’t like the stovepipe look but would like to keep my hat in the best condition I can. I also paid too much money for the thing to start completely gutting it.

  • Jeremy | June 7, 2007 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”99252″][quote comment=”99248″]This is becoming almost a weekly occurrence, a sort of funny Chien-Ming Wang article title….

    http://www.sj-r.com/...
    I don’t understand what’s funny about that one.

    Call me stupid, but I don’t get it either…. I’ve seen these Wang/Yanks posts on this site, but I don’t get the joke.[/quote]

    Wang = male genitalia[/quote]
    No, I get that, but what’s so suggestive about the title of this article?

  • Jaye | June 7, 2007 at 5:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”99276″][quote comment=”99252″][quote comment=”99248″]This is becoming almost a weekly occurrence, a sort of funny Chien-Ming Wang article title….

    http://www.sj-r.com/...
    I don’t understand what’s funny about that one.

    Call me stupid, but I don’t get it either…. I’ve seen these Wang/Yanks posts on this site, but I don’t get the joke.[/quote]

    Wang = male genitalia[/quote]
    No, I get that, but what’s so suggestive about the title of this article?[/quote]

    I think it was the word “lift”

  • Jaye | June 7, 2007 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”99280″][quote comment=”99276″][quote comment=”99252″][quote comment=”99248″]This is becoming almost a weekly occurrence, a sort of funny Chien-Ming Wang article title….

    http://www.sj-r.com/...
    I don’t understand what’s funny about that one.

    Call me stupid, but I don’t get it either…. I’ve seen these Wang/Yanks posts on this site, but I don’t get the joke.[/quote]

    Wang = male genitalia[/quote]
    No, I get that, but what’s so suggestive about the title of this article?[/quote]

    I think it was the word “lift”[/quote]

    P.S. And as a person who writes headlines for a living, I don’t think it was that good.

  • Kyle O from VA | June 7, 2007 at 5:51 pm |

    I recently stumbled across this photo of the 1896 Virginia Tech football team. It interests me for several reasons:

    * 1896 is the year that the school changed its name from Virginia Ag. & Mech. College to Virginia Polytechnic Institute (hence the “VP” logos and the likely source of the “AM” visible in the background).

    * 1896 is also the first year that the infamous orange & maroon was adopted, but the team appears to be wearing the original black and grey school colors. So they updated the logo (“VP”), but not the color scheme.

    * Neat hoop socks.

    * I could be wrong, but those vertically striped leggings look like some kind of shin protectors. One of the guys seated in the front row appears to be holding a shin guard on his lap.

  • Jeremy | June 7, 2007 at 6:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”99282″][quote comment=”99280″][quote comment=”99276″][quote comment=”99252″][quote comment=”99248″]This is becoming almost a weekly occurrence, a sort of funny Chien-Ming Wang article title….

    http://www.sj-r.com/...
    I don’t understand what’s funny about that one.

    Call me stupid, but I don’t get it either…. I’ve seen these Wang/Yanks posts on this site, but I don’t get the joke.[/quote]

    Wang = male genitalia[/quote]
    No, I get that, but what’s so suggestive about the title of this article?[/quote]

    I think it was the word “lift”[/quote]

    P.S. And as a person who writes headlines for a living, I don’t think it was that good.[/quote]
    So I’m assuming you are an editor?

  • Clevo | June 7, 2007 at 6:07 pm |

    a few things:

    most people in the real world realize that if you are going to get a tattoo below their elbow, they may have to wear long sleeves in certain situations. And if you dont have a cool boss, you may have to wear them to work for the rest of your life. You would think athletes would take this into consideration.

    Also, I hate that athletes (and other famous people, most notably Angelina Jolie) have tons of money but get the worst tattoos known to man. For the most part they are so poorly done, they look like prison tattoos. I know there are tattoo artists I want to get tattoos by because of the quality work they do. Most athletes tattoos look like impulse decisions. Poorly done tattoos dont help break the “convicts and sailors” image that tattoos project.

    Lastly, I cringe when I hear the term “tats” it makes me think of some “extreme” personality commenting on someones “siqq tats” (usually refering to a terribly done piece)

    I don’t have any sports tattoos, but I have a spot saved for when the Indians win the World Series.

  • susan | June 7, 2007 at 6:36 pm |

    What a neat graphic!

  • Colin | June 7, 2007 at 6:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”99175″]I’d be intrested to know who the first person carried off a sporting surface (for lack of a more fitting term) was. Probably impossible to track down though.[/quote]
    Bobby Moore was carried off twice:

    FA Cup

    World Cup

  • Jonee | June 7, 2007 at 7:00 pm |

    Back to uniform cameos, Shorpy recently had this photo of the Babe in a NY Giants uni.

  • Mr. Met | June 7, 2007 at 7:43 pm |

    Forget all the Wang headlines; those are easy.

    Best one I have seen thus far has been one in which Bartolo Colon got hammered in one of his starts: Colon absorbs pounding.

  • Jeff | June 7, 2007 at 8:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”99294″]Back to uniform cameos, Shorpy recently had this photo of the Babe in a NY Giants uni.[/quote]

    No wonder the Giants haven’t won a World Series since they left New York…

  • Brian from Short Island | June 7, 2007 at 8:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”99151″][quote comment=”99139″]I was at Petco Park last night and was thrilled when Trevor Hoffman reached 500 saves. I also took note that his teammates (led by Boomer Wells, Mike Cameron, and Heath Bell) carried him off the field on their shoulders. I’m sure there have been other instances in baseball where this has happened, but I can’t remember any. Maybe Joe Carter in Toronto after the World Series walk-off, but I can’t remember for sure. Can anybody help me out?[/quote]
    Rudy at Notre Dame?

    [sarcasm][/quote]

    It pains me to say this, but Joe Torre at Shea Stadium in 2000

  • Minna H. | June 7, 2007 at 8:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”99236″]Blah on permanent tattoos. They look awful, the colors are faded and weak, and they look unprofessional and tacky & thugish at times. I mean, what are you people trying to prove by putting ink in your skin?

    My old man has a nice green smudge on his arm that once was a bald eagle. Just my 2 cents, bit a sore subject for my part.[/quote]

    concealed78, fading might have been inevitable in the old days, but not any more. I have had my tattoos for many years, and they haven’t faded yet. Even if they did, I wouldn’t care because they are a part of me. Personal expression, personal art, and I am not trying to prove anything.

    Yes, many tattoos look awful or cheap, but some can look absolutely beautiful. In many other cultures, getting tattooed is a rite of passage. In Japan, they used to get tattoos all over their bodies and usually had a theme uniting the tattoos. Some still do, but that tends to signify the Japanese mafia. You don’t like tattoos? That’s perfectly fine–don’t get one.

    Clevo, I think the use of tats has become so commonplace, it no longer carries a negative connotation in general. I use it with no meaning behind it.

    Vince, thanks again for writing this article if for no other reason than that tattoos have become part of the sports’ culture and are regarded as some as part of the uniform.

  • Minna H. | June 7, 2007 at 8:35 pm |

    Last part of my post–regarded by some, not as some as part of the uniform.

  • Johnny O | June 7, 2007 at 8:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”99289″]What a neat graphic![/quote]
    So when did the Brewers movie to Green Bay?

    (I understand they couldn’t put the logos right by the Cubs because they would technically overlap)

  • Johnny O | June 7, 2007 at 8:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”99289″]What a neat graphic![/quote]
    So when did the Brewers move to Green Bay?

    (I understand they couldn’t put the logos right by the Cubs because they would technically overlap)

  • Jaye | June 7, 2007 at 9:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”99284″][quote comment=”99282″][quote comment=”99280″][quote comment=”99276″][quote comment=”99252″][quote comment=”99248″]This is becoming almost a weekly occurrence, a sort of funny Chien-Ming Wang article title….

    http://www.sj-r.com/...
    I don’t understand what’s funny about that one.

    Call me stupid, but I don’t get it either…. I’ve seen these Wang/Yanks posts on this site, but I don’t get the joke.[/quote]

    Wang = male genitalia[/quote]
    No, I get that, but what’s so suggestive about the title of this article?[/quote]

    I think it was the word “lift”[/quote]

    P.S. And as a person who writes headlines for a living, I don’t think it was that good.[/quote]
    So I’m assuming you are an editor?[/quote]

    Yes, I’m a newspaper copy editor.

  • Kip Grey | June 7, 2007 at 9:34 pm |

    There is a great site called Hanzi Smatter that translates poorly written Chinese tattoos into English. It would seem that Marcus Camby has “I strive for a non-existent ethnic group” on his shoulder, and Shawn Marion has Demon Bird Moth Balls” on his calf.

  • Broker75 | June 7, 2007 at 11:02 pm |

    What channel’s are the NBA Finals on? anybody?

  • Vincent A. Cipollone | June 7, 2007 at 11:27 pm |

    ABC

  • DearLordStanley | June 7, 2007 at 11:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”99285″]a few things:

    most people in the real world realize that if you are going to get a tattoo below their elbow, they may have to wear long sleeves in certain situations. And if you dont have a cool boss, you may have to wear them to work for the rest of your life. You would think athletes would take this into consideration.

    Also, I hate that athletes (and other famous people, most notably Angelina Jolie) have tons of money but get the worst tattoos known to man. For the most part they are so poorly done, they look like prison tattoos. I know there are tattoo artists I want to get tattoos by because of the quality work they do. Most athletes tattoos look like impulse decisions. Poorly done tattoos dont help break the “convicts and sailors” image that tattoos project.

    Lastly, I cringe when I hear the term “tats” it makes me think of some “extreme” personality commenting on someones “siqq tats” (usually refering to a terribly done piece)[quote]

    Clevo is my hero. And that rhymes.

    I also don’t understand how people that rich manage to get such horrible tattoo work. I’m just a poor kid from Kentucky and I have two large, excellent pieces—a half-sleeve on my left arm and my right leg from knee to ankle. Dear NBA and NFL players, check out Acme Ink in Louisville and get that crap on your arms covered up!

  • Mr. Met | June 7, 2007 at 11:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”99340″]What channel’s are the NBA Finals on? anybody?[/quote]

    I hope that between the time you posted that and the time that Vincent responded (25 minutes later) you actually, you know, picked up the remote and looked……

  • DearLordStanley | June 7, 2007 at 11:55 pm |

    [/quote]
    Oops, my bad.

    Clevo is my hero. And that rhymes.

    I also don’t understand how people that rich manage to get such horrible tattoo work. I’m just a poor kid from Kentucky and I have two large, excellent pieces—a half-sleeve on my left arm and my right leg from knee to ankle. Dear NBA and NFL players, check out Acme Ink in Louisville and get that crap on your arms covered up!

  • Mark in Shiga | June 8, 2007 at 8:35 am |

    [quote comment=”99323″]There is a great site called Hanzi Smatter that translates poorly written Chinese tattoos into English. It would seem that Marcus Camby has “I strive for a non-existent ethnic group” on his shoulder, and Shawn Marion has Demon Bird Moth Balls” on his calf.[/quote]

    The language maven in me compells me to mention that the tattoos don’t actually say those things; the first in particular is just the headline written by the Hanzismatter writer. The first character means “effort” and the second means “tribe”, but there’s no actual tribe bearing that name. Presumably Marcus Camby just went to the tattoo artist and asked for some characters relating to “effort” and “team”.

    As for Shawn Marion, the characters’ meaning is irrelevant. He wanted characters that, in Japanese, sounded like “Matrix”, and the three he chose (“ma”, “tori”, and “kusu”) do indeed approximate that word. The third one doesn’t mean “moth balls”; it means a camphor tree.

    I like seeing goofy Chinese/Japanese tattoos as much as anyone, but these two aren’t really wrong; they just take some effort to understand. You have to join the 勉族 to grasp them!

  • Josh Frazier | June 8, 2007 at 11:04 am |

    Joel Zumaya has to cover up his tattoos because they do not fit in with “the color scheme” of the Tigers. -Josh

  • mike | June 8, 2007 at 3:31 pm |

    I know they are technically not athletes, but how can you have an article on tatoos and not mention Wrestlers? Guys like The Undertaker have their whole arms covered. While Umagahas a face tatoo. The Rock has this large shoulder tattoo, which symbolizes his family history.

  • Josh | June 8, 2007 at 3:57 pm |

    Here are a couple of photos of Ryan Roberts, an infielder for the Syracuse Chiefs, the Blue Jays’ Triple-A farm club.

  • ScottyJ in WV | June 8, 2007 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”99075″]So, while you could wear terrible polo shirts and polyester pants all you wanted, you couldn’t have a beard on tour until 1993.[/quote]

    *Ahem* As a former PBA player, the facial hair rule was changed around that time.

    The stereotypical “terrible polo shirts and polyester pants” were pretty much gone by the mid eighties. Now, somebody would occasionally sport some questionable attire on the show, but almost all of the players had ditched the fashion from the seventies.

    The players (myself included) around that time opted for period appropriate polo (mostly inspired by golf shirts) shirts and casual slacks (namely Dockers and the like).

  • concealed78 | June 9, 2007 at 11:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”99308″][quote comment=”99236″]Blah on permanent tattoos. They look awful, the colors are faded and weak, and they look unprofessional and tacky & thugish at times. I mean, what are you people trying to prove by putting ink in your skin?

    My old man has a nice green smudge on his arm that once was a bald eagle. Just my 2 cents, bit a sore subject for my part.[/quote]

    concealed78, fading might have been inevitable in the old days, but not any more. I have had my tattoos for many years, and they haven’t faded yet. Even if they did, I wouldn’t care because they are a part of me. Personal expression, personal art, and I am not trying to prove anything.

    Yes, many tattoos look awful or cheap, but some can look absolutely beautiful. In many other cultures, getting tattooed is a rite of passage. In Japan, they used to get tattoos all over their bodies and usually had a theme uniting the tattoos. Some still do, but that tends to signify the Japanese mafia. You don’t like tattoos? That’s perfectly fine–don’t get one.
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    This tattoo issue is more about it becoming acceptable and common than anything. It’s just another example of further more blurring the boundries of what’s exceptable and what’s not. Times are evolving and it seems that there’s no conduct of code anymore and things like Jeff Bagwell’s ex-wife getting an advertisement tattooed on her chest going; stuff you wouldn’t have seen that 50 years ago, let alone 10. It’s stupidity like that makes me wonder: things are getting stupid / worse. She doesn’t look classy, she looks like a dumb broad. And in years, she’ll realize it when common sense prevails, just like it did in baseball when it went back to road greys & belts.