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Clothing Swap

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I had a houseguest over the weekend and barely touched my computer, so I’m a day late in covering the details of the weekend’s big uni-related story. With apologies to those for whom this is already old news, here’s the scoop:

During Game 3 of the Stanley Cup finals on Saturday night, Ottawa’s Jason Spezza, who normally wears No. 19, had his jersey badly torn during a tussle with Anaheim’s Sammy Pahlsson (you can see part of the rip here). Both players were penalized for roughing, but Spezza immediately removed his torn jersey and scampered off to the locker room to get a new jersey while another Ottawa player sat in the penalty box in his stead.

Nothing so unusual there — it happens. The weird part was when Spezza returned a minute or two later: Instead of wearing a new No. 19 jersey or a repaired version of his original jersey, he was wearing No. 44. That number is usually worn by Patrick Eaves, who was a healthy scratch for the game. The penalty hadn’t yet expired, so Spezza took his place in the sin bin wearing Eaves’s jersey. When the penalty expired, Spezza skated onto the ice and played until the next whistle, at which point he skated to the bench and switched to a proper 19 jersey.

A few of the details are still fuzzy. Some reports said that Spezza’s original torn jersey was repaired while he was in the penalty box, and that he eventually put it back on; others said that the equipment staff eventually found a new 19 jersey for him to wear. And according to the fourth paragraph of this article (alertly forwarded by Brent Bollmeier), “[S]ince the Sens equipment staff quickly stapled Spezza’s name on the back of Eaves’ jersey, it would not have been illegal for him to go on the ice wearing a different number, in this case 44 rather than his own 19” — an interesting factoid, except for the fact that the Sens staff didn’t staple Spezza’s name onto the 44 jersey. Anyone know more about that?

The announcers had plenty of fun with all this, which you can hear for yourself, because whole thing has already been immortalized in two short YouTube videos, available here and here.

Blowout Chatter: The Cubs had a rare laugher on Saturday, which gave announcers Len Kasper and Bob Brenly a chance to ignore the play-by-play proceedings and concentrate on more important matters, like uniforms. The discussion began when they noted that one of the Cubbies’ clubhouse managers was in uniform and serving as a batboy (apparently one of the team’s standard methods of trying to break a losing streak, something I guess the Cubs have had lots of opportunities to perfect over the years). That led Kasper to wax expansive about a recent chat he’d had with one of the other clubhouse guys:

Kasper: I had a great talk with Tim Hellmann, who works in the home clubhouse, and was talking about the jerseys and taking care of the uniforms and the new synthetic polyester-blend caps. He was telling me that most dirt and grass stains require hand-washing, to keep them nice and clean. And the pants get replaced much more often, for obvious reasons. If you’re wondering, the uniforms are made out of polyester, and they’re washed in warm water. Are you writing this down?

Brenly: No.

Kasper: See, I’ve been saving this story for a long time. Just felt like today was the day. [Camera shows Felix Pie in the Cubs dugout with a lot of dirt on his jersey.] Felix Pie’s uniform might require a bit of hand-washing. I asked Tim if they ever iron the uniforms — sometimes you see a bit of a wrinkle. I guess it’s rare that they have to iron. He said at one time the uniforms were washed in hot water and quickly packed — sometimes had to be touched up with an iron. So it does happen on occasion. Now, as a catcher, you probably went through more pairs of pants than any other position. Do you have any idea how many pairs of trousers you averaged in a big league season?

Brenly: Well, y’know, back in the day we were on a strict budget there in San Francisco. We used to patch our uniforms frequently. It wasn’t unusual to see a guy with three or four layers of patching, especially on your sliding knee, and for me that was my left knee. They just continued to patch ’em until they couldn’t patch them anymore, at which point they were put in a box and sent to the minor leagues for those guys to deal with. You don’t see a lot of patching going on nowadays — if a guy tears his pants or slides so many times that he gets a bare spot on the knee of his pants, they just get him a new pair.

(Special thanks to AJ Favorite for tipping me wise to this highly riveting bit of uni banter.)

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Membership Update: Continued thanks to the very enthusiastic and generous folks who’ve signed up for a Uni Watch membership. Everyone who signed up through yesterday is now listed on the membership roster, where, in most cases, you can see the name/number style that everyone’s chosen for the backs of their cards (which, I think you’ll agree, looks pretty damn cool). Have fun checking out the roster — it’s worth reading it just to see why Mark Emge chose No. 12.

If you signed up prior to yesterday and don’t see your name on the roster, or if there’s an error in your roster listing, let me know and we’ll make things right. If you’re on the roster and want to send me a photo of yourself that can be linked to your name, go ahead and e-mail it to me (or, if you want to link to a photo that’s already no the web, just send me the URL). Also, if you’d rather have your name linked to your e-mail address, so other readers can get in touch with you, let me know and I’ll set up the link.

The actual laminated cards, along with other membership benefits, will start shipping out later this week. It’ll probably take me a few weeks before I get fully caught up — thanks in advance for your patience.

Meanwhile: Terry Mark, I have a question regarding your membership order and am having trouble e-mailing you — please shoot me a note.

Uni Watch News Ticker: An inside MLB source reports the following: “Next year MLB is getting new dugout gear. The jackets will be made of new fabric — think North Face material, but not the fleece kind. The half-zip pullovers will also be kinda weird — more windbreaker-like, but with zip-off sleeves. Also, looks like the negative feedback on this year’s BP gear is falling on deaf ears. The jerseys, at least, will be used again next year.” … Dynamite article here about the uniforms used in the Ernie Davis movie (with thanks to Mike Alper). … More minor league shenanigans, this time from the Frederick Keys, who wore NASCAR jerseys on Saturday night (as forwarded by Tim Phelps). … Succinct analysis by Morris Bird, who says, Let’s hope this logo evolves quickly.” Details here. … Peter Angelos briefly addresses the situation regarding the Orioles’ road jersey insignia in the middle of this interview (just do a search on “uniform”). … Kurt Hiester notes that Dustin Pedroia wears his shin guard unusually high while batting. … Good note from Scott Merzbach, who writes: ” When I was in Lynchburg, Virginia, last weekend for a minor league baseball game, I recalled that the last time I attended a Hillcats baseball game in 1999, the opponents had left their caps at home and were forced to wear generic hats when they took the field. I found a newspaper clip that confirmed my recollection: ‘The (Kinston) Indians were forced to play the game in all-blue adjustable hats they bought at High Peak Sportswear because their regular caps were accidentally left in Kinston.’ ” … Several readers noted that after Michael Barrett’s scuffle with Carlos Zambrano (which resulted in some nasty-looking stitches), he has switched from wearing a conventional mask to a hockey-style model. … Remember Manny Ramirez wearing Oakley Thumps? He was wearing them again last night (with thanks to Michael Milici). … I could do a whole column on Don Cherry’s suits, but for now I’ll just pass along Dustin Pomprowitz‘s observation that Cherry was wearing little Canadian flag cufflinks last night.

 

195 comments to Clothing Swap

  • Natron | June 5, 2007 at 8:27 am |

    I think Don Cherry may have outdone himself in this video. My monitor here at work isn’t the greatest, but if I’m not mistaken, I believe Don is wearing a carnation sportscoat.

  • Rick | June 5, 2007 at 8:47 am |

    Remember Manny Ramirez wearing Oakley Thumps? He was wearing them again last night (with thanks to Michael Milici).

    The Red Sox played Oakland last night. That shot must be from last weekend, May 25-27, when Boston played Texas.

  • Rick | June 5, 2007 at 8:48 am |

    [quote comment=”97931″]Remember Manny Ramirez wearing Oakley Thumps? He was wearing them again last night (with thanks to Michael Milici).

    The Red Sox played Oakland last night.

    That shot must be from last weekend, May 25-27, when Boston played Texas.[/quote]

    Oops, nevermind. My bad. The other pic was from him last night in Oakland.

  • Mr. Met | June 5, 2007 at 8:56 am |

    Hopefully someone can hlep me out with this: I want to have name and numbers stitched onto a blank Seattle Mariners jersey. Is there anyplace in New York that I can bring/mail the jersey to that would be able to stitch authentic Mariners’ name and numbers onto it?

  • Matthew | June 5, 2007 at 9:06 am |

    [quote comment=”97934″]Hopefully someone can hlep me out with this: I want to have name and numbers stitched onto a blank Seattle Mariners jersey. Is there anyplace in New York that I can bring/mail the jersey to that would be able to stitch authentic Mariners’ name and numbers onto it?[/quote]
    I belive each mlb’s team shop via their website does it…

  • redemske | June 5, 2007 at 9:14 am |

    Hey Paul,
    You sure that’s not Len Kasper and Bob Brenly? Pat Hughes is a radio guy, Brenly’s a TV guy. I’m pretty sure it was Len Kasper on Sunday.

  • Mark in Shiga | June 5, 2007 at 9:14 am |

    The Mariners use the same block font that the Mets use (different colors, of course, and no shadows) for both the names and numbers, so if you see a place that letters real Mets jerseys, they could probably do the Mariners too.

    I had a blue Cubs road jersey as a kid and never looked into getting numbers on the back because I was worried that they’d use the dull block font and not the cool curved one that the Cubs actually use.

  • redemske | June 5, 2007 at 9:16 am |

    Barrett’s mask may be Koyie Hill’s mask. Hill just got called up and wears that style.

  • khabibulin | June 5, 2007 at 9:17 am |

    Gerry Cosby at the garden can do that Seattle jersey.

  • CubsFanBudMan | June 5, 2007 at 9:18 am |

    It was definitely Len Kasper and Bob Brenly (note spelling). I watched the game. Pat Hughes works with Ron Santo on the radio and he does a daily uniform update, describing in detail what the players for both teams are wearing for the radio listeners in the early innings … “The Cubs are wearing their home white pinstriped tops with matching pants, blue shoes, blue caps and blue socks…”

  • Paul Lukas | June 5, 2007 at 9:18 am |

    [quote comment=”97939″]Hey Paul,
    You sure that’s not Len Kasper and Bob Brenly? Pat Hughes is a radio guy, Brenly’s a TV guy. I’m pretty sure it was Len Kasper on Sunday.[/quote]

    My bad — I’ll fix.

  • Joey Guns | June 5, 2007 at 9:20 am |

    Here’s a little tidbit on changing jersey numbers in the NBA……

    The NBA jersey change rule requires players who are not changing teams and who wish to change numbers at will to have their current number for a period of four seasons or longer and inform the league more than six months in advance.

  • Brady | June 5, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    Kurt Hiester notes that Dustin Pedroia wears his shin guard unusually high while batting

    That is pretty normal, some guys foul balls off of their feet or inside of their ankle, while some have a tendency to foul it off of the inside of their knee (guess it depedns on your normal flight of the bat and contact point???). Anyway, speaking from experience, the ball off the inside of the knee is one of the most painful things I ever experienced – but I had a tendency to foul it off of the inside of my ankle more often than not, so I wore my guard down there.

  • Elena E | June 5, 2007 at 9:24 am |

    And the Cubs ‘laugher’ game was Sunday, not Saturday. Not sure which day this exchange took place. I must have slept through it, as I usually do when I try to watch a Cubs game.

  • Mel | June 5, 2007 at 9:24 am |

    Have to give a shout-out to Barry Zito, who always wears his uniform properly, including the high socks. He is the founder of “Strikeouts for Troops,” an organization that helps wounded soldiers and Marines. On the website, Manny Ramirez is listed as one of the participants. I guess now I have to forgive him for his uniform transgressions! Kudos to these guys who support causes like this.

  • Kim | June 5, 2007 at 9:25 am |

    Paul,

    You could do an entire blog based on the stylings of Don Cherry.

  • Pittsburgh Gunny | June 5, 2007 at 9:25 am |

    Looks like the white Arsenal kit is confirmed through this pic.

    I dreaded this change at first but now I kind of like it, especially the socks. Although it looks like Gilberto got short changed in the socks area.

  • mg12 | June 5, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    Thanks for the “shout out” Paul.

    No one ever has a better argument for chosing the number 12. You just can’t argue with science and logic.

  • chris | June 5, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    speaking of hockey, is it me or do the Duck’s and Sen’s jerseys have the hugest numerals in the history of ever?

  • Nate | June 5, 2007 at 9:37 am |

    Don Cherry’s suit last night was incredible! The off-white pinstripes, black polka dotted tie, and red boutonnière. Amazing!

  • Nolan | June 5, 2007 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment=”97951″]Looks like the white Arsenal kit is confirmed through this pic.

    I dreaded this change at first but now I kind of like it, especially the socks. Although it looks like Gilberto got short changed in the socks area.[/quote]

    Damn, those stripes really show how skinny his legs are.

  • Jeremy | June 5, 2007 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment=”97944″]It was definitely Len Kasper and Bob Brenly (note spelling). I watched the game. Pat Hughes works with Ron Santo on the radio and he does a daily uniform update, describing in detail what the players for both teams are wearing for the radio listeners in the early innings … “The Cubs are wearing their home white pinstriped tops with matching pants, blue shoes, blue caps and blue socks…”[/quote]
    Michael Kay, when he was on the radio for the Yankees used to do the same thing. Unfortuanetly, that, and any sense of dignity left with him after he moved to TV. I, just like many Yankees fans, will turn the radio back on once the Yankees fire Suzyn Waldman and/or John Sterling.

  • Marty Met | June 5, 2007 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”97956″]speaking of hockey, is it me or do the Duck’s and Sen’s jerseys have the hugest numerals in the history of ever?[/quote]
    It seems like we have most folks using the correct soccer term of kit. So why do people INSIST on calling a hockey sweater a jersey. It’s called a sweater. Just ask Don Cherry

  • Kyle O. | June 5, 2007 at 9:55 am |

    Hey Vince, Where are you from in cleveland? When did you graduate from high school. I graduated in 2001 and was big into the soccer scene there. From your posts it appears as if you might have been too.

  • alan chewning | June 5, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    Re: this ridiculous London logo.

    It looks like Lisa Simpson giving head. You’ve been warned.

  • Kerry | June 5, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”97966″]Re: this ridiculous London logo.

    It looks like Lisa Simpson giving head. You’ve been warned.[/quote]
    Did I miss something?!?! Are we back in the 1980’s?

  • Vince Grzegorek | June 5, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”97964″]Hey Vince, Where are you from in cleveland? When did you graduate from high school. I graduated in 2001 and was big into the soccer scene there. From your posts it appears as if you might have been too.[/quote]

    Grew up in Hinckley, Strongsville, Midd. Hts., Cleveland Hts., and Berea. Went to St. Ignatius, but didn’t play soccer there. Played traveling soccer for Brunswick through middle school.

    Parnell’s next to Cedar Lee is the best place in Cleveland to watch soccer, by the way.

  • Mike | June 5, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    Anyone else notice the Pirates tend to be mismatch their undershirts? They are supposed to have the pirate patch on their arm, as two of the guys in this picture do http://news.yahoo.co...

    ..as you can see Freddy Sanchez did not get the memo. Last year a number of guys wore the “pox” shirts….meh….

  • Vince Grzegorek | June 5, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    Sorry… Ignatius— ’00 and Case ’04

  • Kyle O. | June 5, 2007 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”97968″][quote comment=”97964″]Hey Vince, Where are you from in cleveland? When did you graduate from high school. I graduated in 2001 and was big into the soccer scene there. From your posts it appears as if you might have been too.[/quote]

    Grew up in Hinckley, Strongsville, Midd. Hts., Cleveland Hts., and Berea. Went to St. Ignatius, but didn’t play soccer there. Played traveling soccer for Brunswick through middle school.

    Parnell’s next to Cedar Lee is the best place in Cleveland to watch soccer, by the way.[/quote]

    Ignatius. Okay, I went and played for Hawken. I was the goalie on the team and graduated in 2001. I was good friends with a few guys on Iggy’s team, David Mayers, Mettin (spelled wrong) and a few others)

    I do enjoy the Cleveland bias on here when you write. Its about time Cleveland does well in sports. Keep up the good work.

  • stan | June 5, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”97951″]Looks like the white Arsenal kit is confirmed through this pic.

    I dreaded this change at first but now I kind of like it, especially the socks. Although it looks like Gilberto got short changed in the socks area.[/quote]

    i hate the gunners hate them with a passion, but i got to admit that that kit is WAY better looking (the soxs are very cool) then my hotspur 07/08 kit.

  • alex | June 5, 2007 at 10:17 am |

    I would so love to see a column on Cherry’s suits.

  • Ryan B. | June 5, 2007 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”97951″]Looks like the white Arsenal kit is confirmed through this pic.

    I dreaded this change at first but now I kind of like it, especially the socks. Although it looks like Gilberto got short changed in the socks area.[/quote]

    Gunners are just trying to imitate the greatest football team in the world, Tottenham! Come on you Spurs! I’ll bet Arse-nal wears these kits when they play Spurs at Emirates, just to screw with Tottenham and make them wear their change kits.

  • Ryan B. | June 5, 2007 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”97974″]i hate the gunners hate them with a passion, but i got to admit that that kit is WAY better looking (the soxs are very cool) then my hotspur 07/08 kit.[/quote]

    Spurs’ new kits for ’07-’08 might be kind of plain and simple, but God knows we need more of that in sports these days. I happen to like everything they’ll be wearing, with the exception of the half-blue, half-white shirt which they’ll thankfully only be wearing for one game.

  • skott | June 5, 2007 at 10:22 am |

    read the Angelos interview. amazing. this guy is complaining that his ticket price is lower than boston’s and thats why he can’t compete.

    he says that he’s got 46,000 seats at $22 and the red sox have 36,000 at $45 average ticket price…

    idiot. if the Red Sox had 46,000 seats there’s no way they could get away w/ a super high average ticket price. its supply and demand. there’s very little demand for Orioles tix (except from NY and Boston fans) so they can’t charge a lot. The red sox have sold out over 300 games in a row. they can charge whatever they want as long as they win or are competitive.

    angelos is not a good owner. proven, again and again.

    he did talk about maybe changing the uniforms of the orioles, though, and that’d be cool. i love the old smiling penguinish oriole.

  • alan chewning | June 5, 2007 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”97967″][quote comment=”97966″]Re: this ridiculous London logo.

    It looks like Lisa Simpson giving head. You’ve been warned.[/quote]
    Did I miss something?!?! Are we back in the 1980’s?[/quote]

    Seriously, I’m surprised they didn’t screen it on a t-shirt and have Vanilla Ice wear it for the unveiling along with a huuuuuge gold chain, Nike high tops and baggy pants.

  • ScottyJ in WV | June 5, 2007 at 10:27 am |

    Angelos would make a good politician. Feh.

    By the way, where in the hell is Scranton, Ohio??!!? Double feh.

  • Dan | June 5, 2007 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”97950″]Paul,

    You could do an entire blog based on the stylings of Don Cherry.[/quote]

    My wife will begrudgingly watch hockey with me. (She loves going to the games…jsut hates it on tv…and here in Washington, when I watch the Caps, we get Craig Laughlin, whos voice makes her want to put a knife in her ears to stop the sound). So she had no CLUE who Don Cherry was. She walks in, while I’m watching Ducks/Sens last night and it was Intermission… “Oh my god! They have pimps in Canada!?” she asks! Awesome! Watching him further…she said, he’s like a white, Canadian version of Michael Irvin! (Good stuff!)

  • Dan | June 5, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”97982″]read the Angelos interview. amazing. this guy is complaining that his ticket price is lower than boston’s and thats why he can’t compete.

    he says that he’s got 46,000 seats at $22 and the red sox have 36,000 at $45 average ticket price…

    idiot. if the Red Sox had 46,000 seats there’s no way they could get away w/ a super high average ticket price. its supply and demand. there’s very little demand for Orioles tix (except from NY and Boston fans) so they can’t charge a lot. The red sox have sold out over 300 games in a row. they can charge whatever they want as long as they win or are competitive.

    angelos is not a good owner. proven, again and again.

    he did talk about maybe changing the uniforms of the orioles, though, and that’d be cool. i love the old smiling penguinish oriole.[/quote]

    I was at the Terps/Florida State basketball game last season @ UM. Cal Ripken and Steve Biscotti were sitting together, courtside…I’ve seen them hanging out on several occasions, catching a Ravens game, Terps game, golfing…It would be AWESOME if they were working on coming up with a buy-out for Angelos. If Cal owned the Os…oh, man. Forgetaboutit!

  • Mark in Shiga | June 5, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”97946″]Here’s a little tidbit on changing jersey numbers in the NBA……

    The NBA jersey change rule requires players who are not changing teams and who wish to change numbers at will to have their current number for a period of four seasons or longer and inform the league more than six months in advance.[/quote]

    What happens when a younger guy who’s been in the league for three years or less wants to offer his number to a veteran who’s joining the team? He can’t do it?

    This seems a little unusual. In the NBA there are no bizarre numbers as long as you stay with the “no digit over 5” rule (not like in baseball, where an implementation of this rule would mean that rookies called up late in the year would be stuck with their 57s and 61s), so I guess they’re just doing it to stop teams giving stars new numbers suddenly so that they can sell new jerseys.

    Have to give a shout-out to Barry Zito, who always wears his uniform properly, including the high socks.

    The socks are fine, but for Zito to truly wear is uniform properly, he needs to subtract at least 26 from that monstrosity on his back!

  • Ryan B. | June 5, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”97966″]Re: this ridiculous London logo.

    It looks like Lisa Simpson giving head. You’ve been warned.[/quote]

    I AM AT WORK! I’ve never laughed out loud at something posted on here before, but this did the trick. You’re killing me…stop it or I’ll be unemployed!

    That is now the only thing I can see in the logo.

    Actually, I would kill to see someone with PhotoShop skills turn that into an animated GIF.

  • Pittsburgh Gunny | June 5, 2007 at 10:32 am |

    Hmmmm sp*rs, don’t seem to recall them being a football team.

    C’MON YOU GUNNERS! LOL!

  • Kyle O. | June 5, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”97987″][quote comment=”97946″]Here’s a little tidbit on changing jersey numbers in the NBA……

    The NBA jersey change rule requires players who are not changing teams and who wish to change numbers at will to have their current number for a period of four seasons or longer and inform the league more than six months in advance.[/quote]

    What happens when a younger guy who’s been in the league for three years or less wants to offer his number to a veteran who’s joining the team? He can’t do it?

    This seems a little unusual. In the NBA there are no bizarre numbers as long as you stay with the “no digit over 5” rule (not like in baseball, where an implementation of this rule would mean that rookies called up late in the year would be stuck with their 57s and 61s), so I guess they’re just doing it to stop teams giving stars new numbers suddenly so that they can sell new jerseys.

    Have to give a shout-out to Barry Zito, who always wears his uniform properly, including the high socks.

    The socks are fine, but for Zito to truly wear is uniform properly, he needs to subtract at least 26 from that monstrosity on his back![/quote]

    The NBA does not have a “no digit over 5 rule” Rodman wore numbers in the 90’s, Drew Gooden wears 90 right now. The NCAA does have a “no number higher than 5” rule though. The highest diget allowed is 5 so that the referees can show with their fingers the number of the player who committed the foul. Therefore the highest possible number in college is 55

  • Teebz | June 5, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    [quote comment=”97962″]
    It seems like we have most folks using the correct soccer term of kit. So why do people INSIST on calling a hockey sweater a jersey. It’s called a sweater. Just ask Don Cherry[/quote]

    I have gone over this many times. Hockey sweaters were sweaters when they were made of wool. They are now made of polyester, and are referred to as “sweaters” or “jerseys” due to their polyester nature.

    Both terms are completely acceptable. Why split hairs over a word that means the exact same thing to hockey fans everywhere? I am a traditionalist when it comes to hockey, but I call them jerseys because they are no longer sweaters in the sense of a wool sweater. They don’t fit like a wool sweater. They don’t feel like a wool sweater. They don’t keep you warm like a wool sweater.

    Honestly… sweater or jersey is like “toe-MATE-toe” or “toe-MAH-toe”. Neither is wrong.

  • Shaftman | June 5, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”97986″][quote comment=”97982″]read the Angelos interview. amazing. this guy is complaining that his ticket price is lower than boston’s and thats why he can’t compete.

    he says that he’s got 46,000 seats at $22 and the red sox have 36,000 at $45 average ticket price…

    idiot. if the Red Sox had 46,000 seats there’s no way they could get away w/ a super high average ticket price. its supply and demand. there’s very little demand for Orioles tix (except from NY and Boston fans) so they can’t charge a lot. The red sox have sold out over 300 games in a row. they can charge whatever they want as long as they win or are competitive.

    angelos is not a good owner. proven, again and again.

    he did talk about maybe changing the uniforms of the orioles, though, and that’d be cool. i love the old smiling penguinish oriole.[/quote]

    I was at the Terps/Florida State basketball game last season @ UM. Cal Ripken and Steve Biscotti were sitting together, courtside…I’ve seen them hanging out on several occasions, catching a Ravens game, Terps game, golfing…It would be AWESOME if they were working on coming up with a buy-out for Angelos. If Cal owned the Os…oh, man. Forgetaboutit![/quote]

    I believe the term you are looking for is “Fuggedaboutit“.

  • Marty Met | June 5, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”97993″][quote comment=”97962″]
    It seems like we have most folks using the correct soccer term of kit. So why do people INSIST on calling a hockey sweater a jersey. It’s called a sweater. Just ask Don Cherry[/quote]

    I have gone over this many times. Hockey sweaters were sweaters when they were made of wool. They are now made of polyester, and are referred to as “sweaters” or “jerseys” due to their polyester nature.

    Both terms are completely acceptable. Why split hairs over a word that means the exact same thing to hockey fans everywhere? I am a traditionalist when it comes to hockey, but I call them jerseys because they are no longer sweaters in the sense of a wool sweater. They don’t fit like a wool sweater. They don’t feel like a wool sweater. They don’t keep you warm like a wool sweater.

    Honestly… sweater or jersey is like “toe-MATE-toe” or “toe-MAH-toe”. Neither is wrong.[/quote]
    I’m sorry I disagree, and so do most Canadians. It’s called a sweater and will always be regardless of what material it is made of. I we were to follow your logic then hockey fans could call a goal tender a goal keeper. Just because other sports call it a jersey doesn’t mean it’s correct to call a hockey sweater that.

  • ScottyJ in WV | June 5, 2007 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”97985″][quote comment=”97950″]Paul,

    You could do an entire blog based on the stylings of Don Cherry.[/quote]

    My wife will begrudgingly watch hockey with me. (She loves going to the games…jsut hates it on tv…and here in Washington, when I watch the Caps, we get Craig Laughlin, whos voice makes her want to put a knife in her ears to stop the sound). So she had no CLUE who Don Cherry was. She walks in, while I’m watching Ducks/Sens last night and it was Intermission… “Oh my god! They have pimps in Canada!?” she asks! Awesome! Watching him further…she said, he’s like a white, Canadian version of Michael Irvin! (Good stuff!)[/quote]

    Dan, you should be taken out back and beaten with a puck bag for comparing Don Cherry with that eyesore Michael Irvin. J/K

  • Dan | June 5, 2007 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”97998″][quote comment=”97985″][quote comment=”97950″]Paul,

    You could do an entire blog based on the stylings of Don Cherry.[/quote]

    My wife will begrudgingly watch hockey with me. (She loves going to the games…jsut hates it on tv…and here in Washington, when I watch the Caps, we get Craig Laughlin, whos voice makes her want to put a knife in her ears to stop the sound). So she had no CLUE who Don Cherry was. She walks in, while I’m watching Ducks/Sens last night and it was Intermission… “Oh my god! They have pimps in Canada!?” she asks! Awesome! Watching him further…she said, he’s like a white, Canadian version of Michael Irvin! (Good stuff!)[/quote]

    Dan, you should be taken out back and beaten with a puck bag for comparing Don Cherry with that eyesore Michael Irvin. J/K[/quote]

    The suit speaks for itself!!! Don’t shoot the messenger! lol.

    http://rds.yahoo.com...

    I’m not talking about Don Cherry as an announcer…although he is quite loud, as well…just going purely on haberdashery!

  • Josh from Pittsburgh in Boston | June 5, 2007 at 10:50 am |

    This link comes from the Pulp of the Day mailing list, serving up old pulp magazine covers.

    Big Book Sports

  • Marc | June 5, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    Not sure if this was mentioned…but Vandy went with the throwbacks in their loss last night

  • Teebz | June 5, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”97997″][quote comment=”97993″][quote comment=”97962″]
    It seems like we have most folks using the correct soccer term of kit. So why do people INSIST on calling a hockey sweater a jersey. It’s called a sweater. Just ask Don Cherry[/quote]

    I have gone over this many times. Hockey sweaters were sweaters when they were made of wool. They are now made of polyester, and are referred to as “sweaters” or “jerseys” due to their polyester nature.

    Both terms are completely acceptable. Why split hairs over a word that means the exact same thing to hockey fans everywhere? I am a traditionalist when it comes to hockey, but I call them jerseys because they are no longer sweaters in the sense of a wool sweater. They don’t fit like a wool sweater. They don’t feel like a wool sweater. They don’t keep you warm like a wool sweater.

    Honestly… sweater or jersey is like “toe-MATE-toe” or “toe-MAH-toe”. Neither is wrong.[/quote]
    I’m sorry I disagree, and so do most Canadians. It’s called a sweater and will always be regardless of what material it is made of. I we were to follow your logic then hockey fans could call a goal tender a goal keeper. Just because other sports call it a jersey doesn’t mean it’s correct to call a hockey sweater that.[/quote]

    Um, I am a Canadian, and if you own polyester sweaters, that’s your business. Are you willing to speak on behalf of “most Canadians” because I’m going to say that “most Canadians” wouldn’t care one way or another.

    Do you call sweatshirts “sweaters”? They’re made of polyester and fit like a sweater. Do you call long-sleeved T-shirts “sweaters”? They’re made of polyester and fit like a sweater. Do you call button-up shirts “sweaters”? They’re made of cotton and polyester and fit like a sweater.

    My opinion is not right, nor have I ever said it was. My opinion is just that: an opinion.

  • tessa | June 5, 2007 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”97997″][quote comment=”97993″]

    Honestly… sweater or jersey is like “toe-MATE-toe” or “toe-MAH-toe”. Neither is wrong.[/quote]
    I’m sorry I disagree, and so do most Canadians. It’s called a sweater and will always be regardless of what material it is made of. I we were to follow your logic then hockey fans could call a goal tender a goal keeper. Just because other sports call it a jersey doesn’t mean it’s correct to call a hockey sweater that.[/quote]

    Oooh, Teebz – he is questioning your Canadian-ness. Clearly he has never heard you say “pokecheck.”

    We had this argument on Saturday’s Open Thread. I considered quoting myself from that discussion, but I will refrain. Fact is, both terms are acceptable. “Sweater” is a more traditional term, but no more correct than jersey. It is a matter of preference. Finally, it is interesting to note that the NHL Rulebook (rule 9.3 and 9.4) refers to it as a “jersey.”

  • stan | June 5, 2007 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”97981″][quote comment=”97974″]i hate the gunners hate them with a passion, but i got to admit that that kit is WAY better looking (the soxs are very cool) then my hotspur 07/08 kit.[/quote]

    Spurs’ new kits for ’07-’08 might be kind of plain and simple, but God knows we need more of that in sports these days. I happen to like everything they’ll be wearing, with the exception of the half-blue, half-white shirt which they’ll thankfully only be wearing for one game.[/quote]

    i liked the chocolate kit last year… THAT was a great color. i know theres no brown in our colors but its the 3rd kit i can be any color.

  • stan | June 5, 2007 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”97991″]Hmmmm sp*rs, don’t seem to recall them being a football team.

    C’MON YOU GUNNERS! LOL![/quote]

    i piss on arsenal. althought i would give my kidney, actually both for henry.

  • Shylock | June 5, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”97997″][quote comment=”97993″][quote comment=”97962″]
    It seems like we have most folks using the correct soccer term of kit. So why do people INSIST on calling a hockey sweater a jersey. It’s called a sweater. Just ask Don Cherry[/quote]

    I have gone over this many times. Hockey sweaters were sweaters when they were made of wool. They are now made of polyester, and are referred to as “sweaters” or “jerseys” due to their polyester nature.

    Both terms are completely acceptable. Why split hairs over a word that means the exact same thing to hockey fans everywhere? I am a traditionalist when it comes to hockey, but I call them jerseys because they are no longer sweaters in the sense of a wool sweater. They don’t fit like a wool sweater. They don’t feel like a wool sweater. They don’t keep you warm like a wool sweater.

    Honestly… sweater or jersey is like “toe-MATE-toe” or “toe-MAH-toe”. Neither is wrong.[/quote]
    I’m sorry I disagree, and so do most Canadians. It’s called a sweater and will always be regardless of what material it is made of. I we were to follow your logic then hockey fans could call a goal tender a goal keeper. Just because other sports call it a jersey doesn’t mean it’s correct to call a hockey sweater that.[/quote]

    As a Canadian, I think jersey is fine.

  • WVU Tom | June 5, 2007 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”97986″][quote comment=”97982″]read the Angelos interview. amazing. this guy is complaining that his ticket price is lower than boston’s and thats why he can’t compete.

    he says that he’s got 46,000 seats at $22 and the red sox have 36,000 at $45 average ticket price…

    idiot. if the Red Sox had 46,000 seats there’s no way they could get away w/ a super high average ticket price. its supply and demand. there’s very little demand for Orioles tix (except from NY and Boston fans) so they can’t charge a lot. The red sox have sold out over 300 games in a row. they can charge whatever they want as long as they win or are competitive.

    angelos is not a good owner. proven, again and again.

    he did talk about maybe changing the uniforms of the orioles, though, and that’d be cool. i love the old smiling penguinish oriole.[/quote]

    I was at the Terps/Florida State basketball game last season @ UM. Cal Ripken and Steve Biscotti were sitting together, courtside…I’ve seen them hanging out on several occasions, catching a Ravens game, Terps game, golfing…It would be AWESOME if they were working on coming up with a buy-out for Angelos. If Cal owned the Os…oh, man. Forgetaboutit![/quote]

    You want to charge $45 for ticket fine–I’ll gladly pay it when we have a team that consistantly wins, participates in the playoffs, and just basically keeps me exicted and not looking forward to football season by mid May/early June. It has nothing to do with the size of the venue; if Fenway Park held 60,000 they would probably still be selling out and be able to charge whatever they want because they put a quality product on the field–hell, the Boston fans travel to Baltimore every series and practially sell out our ballpark. Considering the cost of travel and accomidations, that has to cost more than $45.

    Angelos seems to have the whole “chicken and the egg” thing confused–they [the Orioles] MUST do something to produce a product that fans want to see! That’s how you get asses in the seats!–don’t give me “if we had more ticket revenue, then we could afford a better team”. Even if that’s true, it’s doesn’t work that way.

    “If you build it, they will come.” Not, “If people come, you should build it.”

    If the Baltimore fans want a uni change (and trust me, this isn’t just a wish by few uni enthusiasts), it’s the least they can do as an organization to show fans that thier support is appreciated.

  • The Original Lee | June 5, 2007 at 11:10 am |

    whats the complaint with the spurs kits from this year? the yellow is class, the white is class, the 1886 one is class, i dont particularly like the navy one, but 3 out of 4 aint bad. they all are inspired/copies of kits in years past. can be mad about that.

    besides, its not like we chose the color of our rival. now what idiot club would do somthing like that?

  • Teebz | June 5, 2007 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment=”98003″]
    Do you call sweatshirts “sweaters”? They’re made of polyester and fit like a sweater. Do you call long-sleeved T-shirts “sweaters”? They’re made of polyester and fit like a sweater. Do you call button-up shirts “sweaters”? They’re made of cotton and polyester and fit like a sweater.

    My opinion is not right, nor have I ever said it was. My opinion is just that: an opinion.[/quote]

    In fact, I’ll even carry this farther. Do you know why they are called sweaters in the first place? It’s not because they’re made of wool. If you don’t know why they are/were called sweaters, should you be endorsing the word?

    “Le chandail de hockey” should be enough to get you started. The French never had a word for “jersey”. Since “le chandail” translates into English as “the sweater”, the hockey sweater was born. Technically, unless you’re French, you don’t wear a hockey sweater, but I digress. Since the birthplace of hockey has been designated as Windsor, Nova Scotia (originally a French settlement named Pesaquid), would the term “le chandail de hockey” carry across the ocean with the French settlers? Presumably, the name of
    today’s hockey has also French roots because ‘hoquet’ is the French term for a shepherd’s curved stick used in the Middle Ages. The Irish called the game “hockie”… which looks quite a bit like today’s word for the game, and resembles the French word as well.

    As it is with most English words, we got lazy and stole the phrase and words from another language.

  • Shylock | June 5, 2007 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”98012″][quote comment=”98003″]
    Do you call sweatshirts “sweaters”? They’re made of polyester and fit like a sweater. Do you call long-sleeved T-shirts “sweaters”? They’re made of polyester and fit like a sweater. Do you call button-up shirts “sweaters”? They’re made of cotton and polyester and fit like a sweater.

    My opinion is not right, nor have I ever said it was. My opinion is just that: an opinion.[/quote]

    In fact, I’ll even carry this farther. Do you know why they are called sweaters in the first place? It’s not because they’re made of wool. If you don’t know why they are/were called sweaters, should you be endorsing the word?

    “Le chandail de hockey” should be enough to get you started. The French never had a word for “jersey”. Since “le chandail” translates into English as “the sweater”, the hockey sweater was born. Technically, unless you’re French, you don’t wear a hockey sweater, but I digress. Since the birthplace of hockey has been designated as Windsor, Nova Scotia (originally a French settlement named Pesaquid), would the term “le chandail de hockey” carry across the ocean with the French settlers? Presumably, the name of
    today’s hockey has also French roots because ‘hoquet’ is the French term for a shepherd’s curved stick used in the Middle Ages. The Irish called the game “hockie”… which looks quite a bit like today’s word for the game, and resembles the French word as well.

    As it is with most English words, we got lazy and stole the phrase and words from another language.[/quote]

    In other words, most Canadians probably don’t care one way or the other.

  • Dan | June 5, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”98005″][quote comment=”97997″][quote comment=”97993″]

    Honestly… sweater or jersey is like “toe-MATE-toe” or “toe-MAH-toe”. Neither is wrong.[/quote]
    I’m sorry I disagree, and so do most Canadians. It’s called a sweater and will always be regardless of what material it is made of. I we were to follow your logic then hockey fans could call a goal tender a goal keeper. Just because other sports call it a jersey doesn’t mean it’s correct to call a hockey sweater that.[/quote]

    Oooh, Teebz – he is questioning your Canadian-ness. Clearly he has never heard you say “pokecheck.”

    We had this argument on Saturday’s Open Thread. I considered quoting myself from that discussion, but I will refrain. Fact is, both terms are acceptable. “Sweater” is a more traditional term, but no more correct than jersey. It is a matter of preference. Finally, it is interesting to note that the NHL Rulebook (rule 9.3 and 9.4) refers to it as a “jersey.”[/quote]

    And that the NHL website store calls themjerseys as well (top left link)

    http://shop.nhl.com/...

  • Marty Met | June 5, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”98003″][quote comment=”97997″][quote comment=”97993″][quote comment=”97962″]
    It seems like we have most folks using the correct soccer term of kit. So why do people INSIST on calling a hockey sweater a jersey. It’s called a sweater. Just ask Don Cherry[/quote]

    I have gone over this many times. Hockey sweaters were sweaters when they were made of wool. They are now made of polyester, and are referred to as “sweaters” or “jerseys” due to their polyester nature.

    Both terms are completely acceptable. Why split hairs over a word that means the exact same thing to hockey fans everywhere? I am a traditionalist when it comes to hockey, but I call them jerseys because they are no longer sweaters in the sense of a wool sweater. They don’t fit like a wool sweater. They don’t feel like a wool sweater. They don’t keep you warm like a wool sweater.

    Honestly… sweater or jersey is like “toe-MATE-toe” or “toe-MAH-toe”. Neither is wrong.[/quote]
    I’m sorry I disagree, and so do most Canadians. It’s called a sweater and will always be regardless of what material it is made of. I we were to follow your logic then hockey fans could call a goal tender a goal keeper. Just because other sports call it a jersey doesn’t mean it’s correct to call a hockey sweater that.[/quote]

    Um, I am a Canadian, and if you own polyester sweaters, that’s your business. Are you willing to speak on behalf of “most Canadians” because I’m going to say that “most Canadians” wouldn’t care one way or another.

    Do you call sweatshirts “sweaters”? They’re made of polyester and fit like a sweater. Do you call long-sleeved T-shirts “sweaters”? They’re made of polyester and fit like a sweater. Do you call button-up shirts “sweaters”? They’re made of cotton and polyester and fit like a sweater.

    My opinion is not right, nor have I ever said it was. My opinion is just that: an opinion.[/quote]
    When I go home to Mississauga I never hear anyone say jersey. Yes I realize that it is not technically a sweater anymore. But it is correct and traditional to say sweater and not jersey. And it will always be that way, even when those silly new Reebok things come out next year.

  • Pittsburgh Gunny | June 5, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    I think the sp*rs brown kit was very appropriate, crap color for a crap team.

    Anyways, in hockey I usually say sweater but may also use jersey, I agree with Teebz. In hockey it is called a goaltender or goalie in football it is always a goalkeeper.

  • stan | June 5, 2007 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”98010″]whats the complaint with the spurs kits from this year? the yellow is class, the white is class, the 1886 one is class, i dont particularly like the navy one, but 3 out of 4 aint bad. they all are inspired/copies of kits in years past. can be mad about that.

    besides, its not like we chose the color of our rival. now what idiot club would do somthing like that?[/quote]

    navy lovely. white looks like a t shirt with screen print (but i’ll deal), yellow looks like a banana kit, and i know the blue and white is tradition and its only going to be worn once… but are you fing kidding me!? that thing is fugly.

    http://www.historica...

  • Wall of Beef | June 5, 2007 at 11:19 am |

    Don Cherry on during the Intermission of last nights Ottawa v. Anaheimm game was amazing. He was calling out NBC and the NHL during an NBC broadcast of an NHL game! Awesome!

    Even more amazing than Don’s pledge for keeping Fighting in Hockey, was how far Brett Hull had his nose up Don Cherrys ass. He was like a giggling school girl. They really need to have Don Cherry on more U.S. game broadcasts.

    Also, Michal Iriving is the black american Don Cherry not the other way around. Hell, Michael Iriving is more suited as the black american Barry Melrose.

  • Teebz | June 5, 2007 at 11:34 am |

    By the way, I didn’t mean to come across as condescending in my history lesson there.

    Marty Met, I apologize to you as it sounds like I did. This community is a great one, and I’d never want to sound like “Mr. Know-It-All”. I apologize profusely for my written tone. It was never meant to be that way.

    Are we cool? Sweater vs. jersey? I’m cool with both. :o)

  • Teebz | June 5, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

    This place got real quiet real fast.

  • Brian from Short Island | June 5, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”97962″][quote comment=”97956″]speaking of hockey, is it me or do the Duck’s and Sen’s jerseys have the hugest numerals in the history of ever?[/quote]
    It seems like we have most folks using the correct soccer term of kit. So why do people INSIST on calling a hockey sweater a jersey. It’s called a sweater. Just ask Don Cherry[/quote]
    “Kit” or “Strip” refers to the FULL soccer uniform—Shirt, shorts and Socks. When you go to the store, you buy the replica shirt. They also sell the replica kit for kids as one package, or you can build your own full kit.

  • Minna H. | June 5, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”97987″][quote comment=”97946″]Here’s a little tidbit on changing jersey numbers in the NBA……

    The NBA jersey change rule requires players who are not changing teams and who wish to change numbers at will to have their current number for a period of four seasons or longer and inform the league more than six months in advance.[/quote]

    What happens when a younger guy who’s been in the league for three years or less wants to offer his number to a veteran who’s joining the team? He can’t do it?

    This seems a little unusual. In the NBA there are no bizarre numbers as long as you stay with the “no digit over 5” rule (not like in baseball, where an implementation of this rule would mean that rookies called up late in the year would be stuck with their 57s and 61s), so I guess they’re just doing it to stop teams giving stars new numbers suddenly so that they can sell new jerseys.

    Have to give a shout-out to Barry Zito, who always wears his uniform properly, including the high socks.

    The socks are fine, but for Zito to truly wear is uniform properly, he needs to subtract at least 26 from that monstrosity on his back![/quote]

    Mark in Shiga, I think the operative phrase is at will–meaning, for no apparent reason. I am willing to bet trading with a weteran is ok. I highly doubt the NBA would do anything to put the kibosh on more income.

    As for the whole hockey jersey vs. hockey sweater debate, I’ve taken to using this: hockey sweater/jersey, thereby either pacifying or pissing off both sides.

    Boy, Teebz, you sure know how to clear a room! Kidding. I found your hockey lesson fascinating.

    Brian from S.I., thanks for the explanation of kit–that makes more sense than calling the shirt a kit.

  • Paul P. | June 5, 2007 at 11:59 am |

    Anyone have a game shot of Manny wearing the Oakely thumps last night? Looks to me in the reflection in that photo that it was in the dugout, not on the field. Too late to watch that game here on the east coast.

  • Justin | June 5, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    Paul… an idea for a column… I was watching a Pawtucket Red Sox-Columbus Clippers game on Thursday and noticed that the Clippers (formerly a Yankee farm team) have changed their logo to match with their current affiliation with the Washington Nationals. Many teams do this. The Portland Sea Dogs switched from Marlins colors to Red Sox Colors a few years back. All of the Yankees farm clubs (Tampa, Trenton, Scranton-Wilkes Barre, now have pinstriped uniforms.) It could be interesting to note some of the changes that have been made recently as teams have switched affiliations.

  • Teebz | June 5, 2007 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”98028″]
    Boy, Teebz, you sure know how to clear a room! Kidding. I found your hockey lesson fascinating.[/quote]

    I’m taking that at face value. Why? Because a history lesson can be boring. See Ben Stein in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off as an example. ;o)

  • MJ | June 5, 2007 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”97997″][quote comment=”97993″][quote comment=”97962″]
    It seems like we have most folks using the correct soccer term of kit. So why do people INSIST on calling a hockey sweater a jersey. It’s called a sweater. Just ask Don Cherry[/quote]

    I have gone over this many times. Hockey sweaters were sweaters when they were made of wool. They are now made of polyester, and are referred to as “sweaters” or “jerseys” due to their polyester nature.

    Both terms are completely acceptable. Why split hairs over a word that means the exact same thing to hockey fans everywhere? I am a traditionalist when it comes to hockey, but I call them jerseys because they are no longer sweaters in the sense of a wool sweater. They don’t fit like a wool sweater. They don’t feel like a wool sweater. They don’t keep you warm like a wool sweater.

    Honestly… sweater or jersey is like “toe-MATE-toe” or “toe-MAH-toe”. Neither is wrong.[/quote]
    I’m sorry I disagree, and so do most Canadians. It’s called a sweater and will always be regardless of what material it is made of. I we were to follow your logic then hockey fans could call a goal tender a goal keeper. Just because other sports call it a jersey doesn’t mean it’s correct to call a hockey sweater that.[/quote]

    I always just call them a goalie. Does that make me un-correct and thus not a true hockey fan? Because if it did, I would probably cry.

  • Marty Met | June 5, 2007 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”98022″]By the way, I didn’t mean to come across as condescending in my history lesson there.

    Marty Met, I apologize to you as it sounds like I did. This community is a great one, and I’d never want to sound like “Mr. Know-It-All”. I apologize profusely for my written tone. It was never meant to be that way.

    Are we cool? Sweater vs. jersey? I’m cool with both. :o)[/quote]We’re Cool. Thank You.

  • Minna H. | June 5, 2007 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”98034″][quote comment=”98028″]
    Boy, Teebz, you sure know how to clear a room! Kidding. I found your hockey lesson fascinating.[/quote]

    I’m taking that at face value. Why? Because a history lesson can be boring. See Ben Stein in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off as an example. ;o)[/quote]

    Teebz, as you know, I am never facetious. Ha! However, I was being truthful this time. I love learning things, which is one reason this is a great site.

  • Teebz | June 5, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”98036″][quote comment=”98022″]By the way, I didn’t mean to come across as condescending in my history lesson there.

    Marty Met, I apologize to you as it sounds like I did. This community is a great one, and I’d never want to sound like “Mr. Know-It-All”. I apologize profusely for my written tone. It was never meant to be that way.

    Are we cool? Sweater vs. jersey? I’m cool with both. :o)[/quote]We’re Cool. Thank You.[/quote]

    You’re welcome. Glad to have another hockey lover onboard too. :o)

  • Teebz | June 5, 2007 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”98039″][quote comment=”98034″][quote comment=”98028″]
    Boy, Teebz, you sure know how to clear a room! Kidding. I found your hockey lesson fascinating.[/quote]

    I’m taking that at face value. Why? Because a history lesson can be boring. See Ben Stein in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off as an example. ;o)[/quote]

    Teebz, as you know, I am never facetious. Ha! However, I was being truthful this time. I love learning things, which is one reason this is a great site.[/quote]

    I was just pulling your leg, Minna. Besides, I started the “Bueller” comment above a la Mr. Stein, so I thought I’d go full-circle with the joke.

  • Ian | June 5, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”97961″][quote comment=”97944″]It was definitely Len Kasper and Bob Brenly (note spelling). I watched the game. Pat Hughes works with Ron Santo on the radio and he does a daily uniform update, describing in detail what the players for both teams are wearing for the radio listeners in the early innings … “The Cubs are wearing their home white pinstriped tops with matching pants, blue shoes, blue caps and blue socks…”[/quote]
    Michael Kay, when he was on the radio for the Yankees used to do the same thing. Unfortuanetly, that, and any sense of dignity left with him after he moved to TV. I, just like many Yankees fans, will turn the radio back on once the Yankees fire Suzyn Waldman and/or John Sterling.[/quote]

    When Michael Kay first moved to TV, he called the games like he was still on the radio, with the uniform descriptions and all. In recent years, he stopped.

    It still saddens me that the Yankees diluted their strong broadcasting team by separating Sterling and Kay. I think they should be reunited, even if its to host the “Batting Practice” show (which has very few minutes of actual batting practice).

  • Kek | June 5, 2007 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”98043″][quote comment=”97961″][quote comment=”97944″]It was definitely Len Kasper and Bob Brenly (note spelling). I watched the game. Pat Hughes works with Ron Santo on the radio and he does a daily uniform update, describing in detail what the players for both teams are wearing for the radio listeners in the early innings … “The Cubs are wearing their home white pinstriped tops with matching pants, blue shoes, blue caps and blue socks…”[/quote]
    Michael Kay, when he was on the radio for the Yankees used to do the same thing. Unfortuanetly, that, and any sense of dignity left with him after he moved to TV. I, just like many Yankees fans, will turn the radio back on once the Yankees fire Suzyn Waldman and/or John Sterling.[/quote]

    When Michael Kay first moved to TV, he called the games like he was still on the radio, with the uniform descriptions and all. In recent years, he stopped.

    It still saddens me that the Yankees diluted their strong broadcasting team by separating Sterling and Kay. I think they should be reunited, even if its to host the “Batting Practice” show (which has very few minutes of actual batting practice).[/quote]
    Fire Suzyn Waldman?! OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS!!! LOL!

    I’m unclear on something: why do Yankees’ fans need to have their uniform described to them? It’s not like there is a plethora of alternate combos. I could see with the Cubs, because they could be sporting the blue alt. Or the White Sox since they have a jersey, vest and black alt.

    I would think, if you’re a yanks’ fan, you know damn well what the team is wearing.

  • Shaftman | June 5, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”98048″][quote comment=”98043″][quote comment=”97961″][quote comment=”97944″]It was definitely Len Kasper and Bob Brenly (note spelling). I watched the game. Pat Hughes works with Ron Santo on the radio and he does a daily uniform update, describing in detail what the players for both teams are wearing for the radio listeners in the early innings … “The Cubs are wearing their home white pinstriped tops with matching pants, blue shoes, blue caps and blue socks…”[/quote]
    Michael Kay, when he was on the radio for the Yankees used to do the same thing. Unfortuanetly, that, and any sense of dignity left with him after he moved to TV. I, just like many Yankees fans, will turn the radio back on once the Yankees fire Suzyn Waldman and/or John Sterling.[/quote]

    When Michael Kay first moved to TV, he called the games like he was still on the radio, with the uniform descriptions and all. In recent years, he stopped.

    It still saddens me that the Yankees diluted their strong broadcasting team by separating Sterling and Kay. I think they should be reunited, even if its to host the “Batting Practice” show (which has very few minutes of actual batting practice).[/quote]
    Fire Suzyn Waldman?! OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS!!! LOL!

    I’m unclear on something: why do Yankees’ fans need to have their uniform described to them? It’s not like there is a plethora of alternate combos. I could see with the Cubs, because they could be sporting the blue alt. Or the White Sox since they have a jersey, vest and black alt.

    I would think, if you’re a yanks’ fan, you know damn well what the team is wearing.[/quote]

    Good point…but remember there is another team that probably has many options. Besides, it’s a great way to start a broadcast.

  • Mr. Met | June 5, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”97940″]The Mariners use the same block font that the Mets use (different colors, of course, and no shadows) for both the names and numbers, so if you see a place that letters real Mets jerseys, they could probably do the Mariners too.

    I had a blue Cubs road jersey as a kid and never looked into getting numbers on the back because I was worried that they’d use the dull block font and not the cool curved one that the Cubs actually use.[/quote]

    I was thinking about that, but then I thought about it some more, and remember seeing someone with a throwback Gary Carter jersey (from the 1986 team), and the back had the current Met font, with the dropshadow. If they can’t do their own throwbacks properly, then I’ll probably pass. I don’t want to give them the jersey and get back a Mariners jersey with orange and blue numbers with black dropshadows……

    If I understand correctly, the Mets Clubhouse uses the people that stitch the Mets jerseys, so I’m thinking that they do Mets jerseys and colors only.

  • Scott | June 5, 2007 at 12:45 pm |

    Not sure if this was mentioned already, but White Sox hitting coach Greg Walker was unable to attened Saturday’s game against the Blue Jays due to his daughter’s graduation. A.J. Pierzynski had the day off, and prior to the game declared himself the hitting coach for the day. He even borrowed Walker’s #29 jersey for at least some of the game.

    No screenshots, but I’ll see what I can dig up.

  • Joey Guns | June 5, 2007 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”98031″]Anyone have a game shot of Manny wearing the Oakely thumps last night? Looks to me in the reflection in that photo that it was in the dugout, not on the field. Too late to watch that game here on the east coast.[/quote]

    You’re right. That pic is on Yahoo Sports, and it says he “looks on”, so he’s clearly in the dugout.

  • schuby | June 5, 2007 at 12:48 pm |

    ESPN’s homepage shows a good shot of the CoolBase jerseys. I would post the link but the filter no longer lets me post links. It gets really annoying.

  • Alan | June 5, 2007 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”97934″]Hopefully someone can hlep me out with this: I want to have name and numbers stitched onto a blank Seattle Mariners jersey. Is there anyplace in New York that I can bring/mail the jersey to that would be able to stitch authentic Mariners’ name and numbers onto it?[/quote]
    Try Gerry Cosby’s right outside the Garden

  • seven | June 5, 2007 at 1:01 pm |

    As a Canadian I have no problem with sweater or jersey. Let NBC & Versus have Don Cherry & keep him off CBC. Paul, there are many more interesting topics than Cherry’s suits

  • tim b | June 5, 2007 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”97946″]Here’s a little tidbit on changing jersey numbers in the NBA……

    The NBA jersey change rule requires players who are not changing teams and who wish to change numbers at will to have their current number for a period of four seasons or longer and inform the league more than six months in advance.[/quote]

    I am reasonably confident that Cavs Game 6 hero Daniel “Boobie” Gibson switched numbers early in the year, after the regular season had started, going from 21 to 1. Stephen Graham had worn the number in his stint here, and was cut late in the preseason. But this would be different since it was his first NBA number, and Graham had been waived. I even noticed at games when Gibson started, when they do introductions on the “Q-Vision” with the staged/candid shots of him, they blurred out the old number.

    Gibson in 21, first few weeks of 06-07 season
    http://www.nba.com/m...

    Earliest pic I could find of him as #1, Nov 24 vs. Indiana
    http://www.cleveland...

    Boobie on Saturday, in all his glory
    http://www.cleveland...

    [quote comment=”97970″]Sorry… Ignatius— ’00 and Case ’04[/quote]

    Vince, SIHS ’95 here.

  • Mike | June 5, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    Wow-Check out the Pittsburgh Pirates hockey team sweaters/jerseys from back in the day. http://www.pittsburg...

    Complete with the Allegheny County coat of arms….

  • jsdryden | June 5, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    Teebz,

    As a fellow Canadian you make me proud. I only wish I lived out your way, because once you started with the Ferris quotes, I thought, man, this is a guy I could hoist a couple Sleeman’s with! Love that movie.

    Keep up the good work on your blog, and for the record… jersey, sweater, makes no difference to me.

  • Teebz | June 5, 2007 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”98062″]As a Canadian I have no problem with sweater or jersey. Let NBC & Versus have Don Cherry & keep him off CBC. Paul, there are many more interesting topics than Cherry’s suits[/quote]

    Don Cherry is to Canada and hockey as Charles Barkley is to the USA and basketball. He’s a character, and he gets paid to be outrageous.

    Honestly, if you mention the words “Coach’s Corner” to a Canadian, you instantly have a dozen Don Cherry stories.

    I’ll take Cherry on CBC. I really like Kelly Hrudey’s Behind the Mask segment, but Hockey Night in Canada isn’t HNIC without Grapes.

  • Ron | June 5, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”97934″]Hopefully someone can hlep me out with this: I want to have name and numbers stitched onto a blank Seattle Mariners jersey. Is there anyplace in New York that I can bring/mail the jersey to that would be able to stitch authentic Mariners’ name and numbers onto it?[/quote]
    I would contact their team store if they offer authentic lettering and numbering.

    I had a Braves jersey done which they did an excellent job on.

  • Kyle O. | June 5, 2007 at 1:18 pm |

    I don’t remember batting helmets having such, well, sparse padding on the inside of them. Does Manny take the padding out of his helmet?

  • Grant Emerson | June 5, 2007 at 1:21 pm |

    SI has a countdown of the worst uniforms in college football. For some reason, they included Notre Dame’s fantastic green jersey at No. 9. No surprise at the top. Syracuse is included too, and I kind of like their unis.

  • Grant Emerson | June 5, 2007 at 1:21 pm |

    Sorry, here’s the link.

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Mike | June 5, 2007 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”98074″]I don’t remember batting helmets having such, well, sparse padding on the inside of them. Does Manny take the padding out of his helmet?[/quote]

    Usually it is that little piece of foam on the top and the leather around the rim…..since he has been using this same helmet for years, I would think most of it has fallen out…

  • Mike | June 5, 2007 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”98077″][quote comment=”98074″]I don’t remember batting helmets having such, well, sparse padding on the inside of them. Does Manny take the padding out of his helmet?[/quote]

    Usually it is that little piece of foam on the top and the leather around the rim…..since he has been using this same helmet for years, I would think most of it has fallen out…[/quote]

    As Mike Lowell shows here…
    http://sportsillustr...

  • Anthony Verna | June 5, 2007 at 1:27 pm |

    I’m going to Phillies-Mets tonight at Shea. I have my Phils Interleague cap, figuring that the Mets would be pulling out their road cap, anyway!

  • stan | June 5, 2007 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”98076″]Sorry, here’s the link.

    http://sportsillustr...

    i don’t know some of them aren’t that bad… like the delware done the blue hens have a pretty cool uni and it does look like the michigan one but i think delaware has been around for longer… and the RIU uniforms are really good… powder blue tiwsted horns and all.

  • Anthony Verna | June 5, 2007 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”97993″]Honestly… sweater or jersey is like “toe-MATE-toe” or “toe-MAH-toe”. Neither is wrong.[/quote]

    Here’s what I’m adding to this discussion:

    http://www.walken.ti...

  • Jonathon | June 5, 2007 at 1:31 pm |

    Curtis Granderson’s latest ESPN blog entry talks about wearing the 70s throwbacks over the weekend:

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Justin | June 5, 2007 at 1:32 pm |

    Forgot to put pictures in about my minor league uniform comment

    Yankees Columbus Clippers:
    http://www.instantre...

    Nationals Columbus Clippers:
    http://clippersbaseb...

    Marlins Portland Sea Dogs:
    http://www.seadogs.c...

    Red Sox Portland Sea Dogs:
    http://bostondirtdog...

    I’m sure there’s other examples too.

  • WVU Tom | June 5, 2007 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”98078″][quote comment=”98077″][quote comment=”98074″]I don’t remember batting helmets having such, well, sparse padding on the inside of them. Does Manny take the padding out of his helmet?[/quote]

    Usually it is that little piece of foam on the top and the leather around the rim…..since he has been using this same helmet for years, I would think most of it has fallen out…[/quote]

    As Mike Lowell shows here…
    http://sportsillustr...

    Not that hard to figure out–with the amount of hair Manny has, I’m sure he has to wear extra large hats (at least larger than he would wear if he had no hair), and modify his helmets just to get them to fit on his head.

  • Jonathon | June 5, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    Tigers throwbacks:
    http://sports.yahoo....

    Indians throwbacks:
    http://sports.yahoo....

  • Mr. Met | June 5, 2007 at 1:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”98074″]I don’t remember batting helmets having such, well, sparse padding on the inside of them. Does Manny take the padding out of his helmet?[/quote]

    Well Manny has his dreads and that do-rag thingamajig he puts on top of his head; it looks like he has natural padding already. Besides, with that mountain of hair on his head, how could you possibly fit any foam inside that helmet?

    If Manny took a ball to the head, wouldn’t that probably straighten him out instead of mess him up?

  • TBDRO | June 5, 2007 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”98018″]Don Cherry on during the Intermission of last nights Ottawa v. Anaheimm game was amazing. He was calling out NBC and the NHL during an NBC broadcast of an NHL game! Awesome!

    Even more amazing than Don’s pledge for keeping Fighting in Hockey, was how far Brett Hull had his nose up Don Cherrys ass. He was like a giggling school girl. They really need to have Don Cherry on more U.S. game broadcasts.

    Also, Michal Iriving is the black american Don Cherry not the other way around. Hell, Michael Iriving is more suited as the black american Barry Melrose.[/quote]
    Don Cherry is so rediculously overhyped. Ooohhh, I say crazy things on TV, look at me! America can’t handle it!

    As John Stossel would say, “Give me a break!”

    However, I do enjoy the crazy outfits. He should seriously grow a Canadian passport to perfect the look.

  • Jonathon | June 5, 2007 at 1:40 pm |

    An aritcle from today’s Washington Post discussing the backlash in Britain concerning the new 2012 Olympics logo:

    Jeers and Loathing Over a New Logo
    Britons Denounce Olympics Symbol

    By Kevin Sullivan
    Washington Post Foreign Service
    Tuesday, June 5, 2007; C02

    LONDON, June 4 — Olympic organizers unveiled the official logo for London’s 2012 Summer Games on Monday, and didn’t get quite the reaction they were hoping for.

    Before the sun set, an online petition calling on the organizers to “scrap and change the ridiculous logo” had attracted more than 12,000 electronic signatures. A BBC online vote showed that of nearly 11,000 votes cast, almost 85 percent trashed the design and less than 4 percent gave it a “gold medal.”

    “There’s some truly hideous sights in the world, but the newly revealed London 2012 logo tops them all,” wrote columnist Tom Lutz, introducing a blog on the topic on the Guardian Unlimited Web site, which attracted a piping hot hiss of derision from hundreds of contributors.

    Lutz noted that the organizers say the new logo represents “the Olympic spirit and the ability of the Games to inspire people to take part.” But, he said, “others would say that it represents the multicolored vomit sprayed across the capital’s pavements at 3 a.m. on your average Sunday morning.”

    “It’s pretty hideous,” said Amit Shah, 28, an investment banker in London, reading a newspaper on his evening commute home. “Usually there’s some kind of link between the city and the logo. But here they have completely missed it. Frankly, it looks like graffiti.”

    The logo’s design, which cost more than $800,000 to produce, is a chunky, graffiti-style depiction of the number “20” stacked above the number “12,” looking a bit like a jagged piece of popcorn, incorporating the Olympic rings and the word “London” in lowercase letters. It was displayed Monday in vivid blue, green, orange and pink versions, each with a bright yellow outline, which organizers said was meant to appeal especially to young people.

    “It is a puerile mess, an artistic flop and a commercial scandal,” Stephen Bayley, founder of London’s Design Museum, told the Press Association. “It is feeble. It was a wonderful chance to do something magnificent, and it was a waste of resources.”

    Prime Minister Tony Blair led a chorus of government officials, including London Mayor Ken Livingstone, and former British Olympic athletes who enthusiastically praised the logo: “When people see the new brand, we want them to be inspired to make a positive change in their life,” Blair said.

    Sebastian Coe, the former British distance runner who heads the organizing committee, introduced the logo, designed by the London-based Wolff Olins firm, with soaring praise. “It will define the venues we build and the Games we hold and act as a reminder of our promise to use the Olympic spirit to inspire everyone and reach out to young people around the world,” he said.

    But on a BBC blog about the new logo, where the comments were almost unanimously negative, one youthful contributor, “tommyd1258,” said he was anything but inspired. “It’s boring and looks like it took a second for a 3 year old to do,” he wrote. “It certainly doesn’t appeal to children, I mean I’m 16 and dislike it, my brother is 10 and thinks it’s plain.” By mid-afternoon, the logo launch had sparked what the Evening Standard newspaper proclaimed in a large headline the “Olympics 2012 Logo Revolt.”

    Coe responded that the logo, which will be used to brand a vast array of Olympic products, was intended to be an exciting and innovative symbol of London that would “evolve.”

    “It’s not a logo; it’s a brand that will take us forward for the next five years,” Coe told BBC radio. “It won’t be to everybody’s taste immediately, but it’s a brand that we genuinely believe can be a hard-working brand.”

    Further, Coe, said, “We don’t do bland. This is not a bland city, and we were not going to come out with a bland corporate logo that would just be left to appear on a polo shirt you do your gardening in in a few weeks. . . . We believe we have got something that will live, something that will help us as we approach the Games, something with an international feel and something that will help us with business.” On the streets of London, Britons seemed skeptical.

    “It’s pretty awful,” said Helen Barker, 29, a librarian. “It’s trying to be young and trendy, but it’s not quite hitting the mark. It’s a bit of a mess and looks like it’s been done in five minutes.”

    Anette Zimowski, 24, a student at the London School of Economics, said the logo reminded her of “the disco ’80s.”

    “You can’t even tell what it says,” she said. “It doesn’t say anything.”

    Emilie Courtan, 23, a French woman studying in Britain, tried to put a positive spin on the logo, seeing complexity where others saw simple disaster.

    “It’s good,” she said, “because you have to look at it a long time to figure out what it means.”

  • Jonathon | June 5, 2007 at 1:41 pm |

    2012 logo backlash:

    http://www.washingto...

  • Adam | June 5, 2007 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”98048″]I’m unclear on something: why do Yankees’ fans need to have their uniform described to them? It’s not like there is a plethora of alternate combos. I could see with the Cubs, because they could be sporting the blue alt. Or the White Sox since they have a jersey, vest and black alt.
    [/quote]

    Speaking of that, the White Sox radio team does describe the uniforms at the beginning of every game, and I believe it’s even sponsered (i.e., “the descriptions of today’s uniforms are brought to you by Triple Threat Sports”)

    On a semi-related note, the White Sox pulled out the vest for the second time this year (according to the newspaper, at least, I can’t recall the previous time). They got a much-needed win, so I’d expect them to wear them again today (the White Sox almost never change uniforms on a win streak).

    In one more White Sox note, I noticed that (at least on his road uniform), just-called-up Andy Gonzalez has his name as “A. Gonzalez”, despite nobody else on the roster named Gonzalez. A sign that big-time prospect Gio Gonzalez might get called up soon?

  • Adam | June 5, 2007 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”98055″]Not sure if this was mentioned already, but White Sox hitting coach Greg Walker was unable to attened Saturday’s game against the Blue Jays due to his daughter’s graduation. A.J. Pierzynski had the day off, and prior to the game declared himself the hitting coach for the day. He even borrowed Walker’s #29 jersey for at least some of the game.

    No screenshots, but I’ll see what I can dig up.[/quote]

    I mentioned it on Saturday, but I didn’t have any pictures either. The best part was the fake beer gut he was wearing with it.

  • Ben N | June 5, 2007 at 2:00 pm |

    Hey at least they got #1 right….Nike U er i mean Oregon!![quote comment=”98081″][quote comment=”98076″]Sorry, here’s the link.

    http://sportsillustr...

    i don’t know some of them aren’t that bad… like the delware done the blue hens have a pretty cool uni and it does look like the michigan one but i think delaware has been around for longer… and the RIU uniforms are really good… powder blue tiwsted horns and all.[/quote]

  • Dane | June 5, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”97956″]speaking of hockey, is it me or do the Duck’s and Sen’s jerseys have the hugest numerals in the history of ever?[/quote]

    I’m tempted to get a Giguere jersey/sweater/”article of clothing resembling what the players wear on the ice” (complete with Cup patch, of course), but I’m afraid how much those numbers will be neutered with the Rbk uniform system.

    And if you look at the red Ottawa sweaters on shop.nhl.com, they’re displayed with the wrong style of numbers.

  • Kyle O. | June 5, 2007 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”98063″][quote comment=”97946″]Here’s a little tidbit on changing jersey numbers in the NBA……

    The NBA jersey change rule requires players who are not changing teams and who wish to change numbers at will to have their current number for a period of four seasons or longer and inform the league more than six months in advance.[/quote]

    I am reasonably confident that Cavs Game 6 hero Daniel “Boobie” Gibson switched numbers early in the year, after the regular season had started, going from 21 to 1. Stephen Graham had worn the number in his stint here, and was cut late in the preseason. But this would be different since it was his first NBA number, and Graham had been waived. I even noticed at games when Gibson started, when they do introductions on the “Q-Vision” with the staged/candid shots of him, they blurred out the old number.

    Gibson in 21, first few weeks of 06-07 season
    http://www.nba.com/m...

    Earliest pic I could find of him as #1, Nov 24 vs. Indiana
    http://www.cleveland...

    Boobie on Saturday, in all his glory
    http://www.cleveland...

    [quote comment=”97970″]Sorry… Ignatius— ’00 and Case ’04[/quote]

    Vince, SIHS ’95 here.[/quote]

    Gibson changed after the preseason ended when Stephen Grahme was waived

  • Seattle Matt | June 5, 2007 at 2:07 pm |

    Read this on ESPN today, can’t find any photo evidence though:

    “[Jake] Peavy developed a love for the game from his late grandfather, Blanche Peavy, and he still pitches with the initials “BP” inscribed under his cap in tribute.”

  • UW justin | June 5, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”98108″][quote comment=”97956″]speaking of hockey, is it me or do the Duck’s and Sen’s jerseys have the hugest numerals in the history of ever?[/quote]

    I’m tempted to get a Giguere jersey/sweater/”article of clothing resembling what the players wear on the ice” (complete with Cup patch, of course), but I’m afraid how much those numbers will be neutered with the Rbk uniform system.

    And if you look at the red Ottawa sweaters on shop.nhl.com, they’re displayed with the wrong style of numbers.[/quote]

    At least http://www.icejersey... has them correct.

  • JayD | June 5, 2007 at 2:19 pm |

    DON CHERRY is a God here in Canada. He was influencing NHL policy while Charles Barkley was still toiling for the Sixers and Micheal Irving was still in college. His suits are usually co-ordinated with particular events. He even claimed that he “toned it down” last night for the American audiences last night suit wise. He brought up several good points about violence in hockey and how the American audience really wants it in hockey. Him coupled with Brett Hull must have had the censors hovering over the edit button all segment. All they needed was Jeremy Roenick to complete the triad. No offence but it puzzles me how American audiences can’t get with hockey… Its athletic, fast, violent, action packed etc. I know you guys get the shaft hockey brodcast wise down there but come on. Guess its like us Canadians looking at Nascar. We don’t get the novelty of it.

  • WVU Tom | June 5, 2007 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”98111″][quote comment=”98108″][quote comment=”97956″]speaking of hockey, is it me or do the Duck’s and Sen’s jerseys have the hugest numerals in the history of ever?[/quote]

    I’m tempted to get a Giguere jersey/sweater/”article of clothing resembling what the players wear on the ice” (complete with Cup patch, of course), but I’m afraid how much those numbers will be neutered with the Rbk uniform system.

    And if you look at the red Ottawa sweaters on shop.nhl.com, they’re displayed with the wrong style of numbers.[/quote]

    At least http://www.icejersey... has them correct.[/quote]

    …shouldn’t that be “www.icesweaters.com”? Sorry, couldn’t resist. Icejerseys is a pretty good site though.

  • patrick | June 5, 2007 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”97934″]Hopefully someone can hlep me out with this: I want to have name and numbers stitched onto a blank Seattle Mariners jersey. Is there anyplace in New York that I can bring/mail the jersey to that would be able to stitch authentic Mariners’ name and numbers onto it?[/quote]

    Theres a place near me in astoria, and i know they will do mets stuff… Ill try and get the name for you.

  • todd krevanchi | June 5, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”98078″]As Mike Lowell shows here…
    http://sportsillustr...

    notice robby cano with no belt.
    guess you could call them sansabelt….

  • Mark in Cincy | June 5, 2007 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”98078″][quote comment=”98077″][quote comment=”98074″]I don’t remember batting helmets having such, well, sparse padding on the inside of them. Does Manny take the padding out of his helmet?[/quote]

    Usually it is that little piece of foam on the top and the leather around the rim…..since he has been using this same helmet for years, I would think most of it has fallen out…[/quote]

    As Mike Lowell shows here…
    http://sportsillustr...
    Anyone notice that Cano is missing his belt?

    Stupid question, I’m sure someone else has, this is Uni Watch.

  • Mark in Cincy | June 5, 2007 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”98120″][quote comment=”98078″]As Mike Lowell shows here…
    http://sportsillustr...

    notice robby cano with no belt.
    guess you could call them sansabelt….[/quote]
    i knew someone else would notice

  • todd krevanchi | June 5, 2007 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”98122″][quote comment=”98120″][quote comment=”98078″]As Mike Lowell shows here…
    http://sportsillustr...

    notice robby cano with no belt.
    guess you could call them sansabelt….[/quote]
    i knew someone else would notice[/quote]

    that exchange just reminded me of my favorite line in pirates of the carribean.

    Will Turner: You cheated!
    Jack Sparrow: Pirate.

    now lets bring this to a more relevant forum…

    Mark in Cincy: You noticed!
    Todd: Uniwatch.

  • TBDRO | June 5, 2007 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”98116″]DON CHERRY is a God here in Canada. He was influencing NHL policy while Charles Barkley was still toiling for the Sixers and Micheal Irving was still in college. His suits are usually co-ordinated with particular events. He even claimed that he “toned it down” last night for the American audiences last night suit wise. He brought up several good points about violence in hockey and how the American audience really wants it in hockey. Him coupled with Brett Hull must have had the censors hovering over the edit button all segment. All they needed was Jeremy Roenick to complete the triad. No offence but it puzzles me how American audiences can’t get with hockey… Its athletic, fast, violent, action packed etc. I know you guys get the shaft hockey brodcast wise down there but come on. Guess its like us Canadians looking at Nascar. We don’t get the novelty of it.[/quote]
    Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE HOCKEY. I live in the southern US and hockey ranks way above NASCAR and basketball on my sports totem. I’ve just grown tired of the whole “America can’t take Don Cherry because he tells it like it is and is so crazy” bit. YAWN.

    And the reason he probably “toned it down” last night for the American audience is because he generally looks like a fool in those outfits. But, like I said, I do enjoy them.

  • Mark in Cincy | June 5, 2007 at 2:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”98124″][quote comment=”98122″][quote comment=”98120″][quote comment=”98078″]As Mike Lowell shows here…
    http://sportsillustr...

    notice robby cano with no belt.
    guess you could call them sansabelt….[/quote]
    i knew someone else would notice[/quote]

    that exchange just reminded me of my favorite line in pirates of the carribean.

    Will Turner: You cheated!
    Jack Sparrow: Pirate.

    now lets bring this to a more relevant forum…

    Mark in Cincy: You noticed!
    Todd: Uniwatch.[/quote]
    beautiful

  • Cormac | June 5, 2007 at 2:45 pm |

    Not only is the 2012 logo ugly, it’s dangerous!

    From The BBC :

    The new logo for the 2012 London Olympic Games is to be removed from the organisers’ website after fears it could trigger epileptic fits.

    Prof Graham Harding, who developed the test used to measure photo-sensitivity levels in TV material, said it should not be broadcast.

    Charity Epilepsy Action said it had received calls from people who suffered fits after seeing the animated logo.

    Organisers London 2012 said it was looking into it as a matter of urgency.

    The jagged emblem, based on the date 2012, was unveiled on Monday.

  • todd krevanchi | June 5, 2007 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”98126″][quote comment=”98124″][quote comment=”98122″][quote comment=”98120″][quote comment=”98078″]As Mike Lowell shows here…
    http://sportsillustr...

    notice robby cano with no belt.
    guess you could call them sansabelt….[/quote]
    i knew someone else would notice[/quote]

    that exchange just reminded me of my favorite line in pirates of the carribean.

    Will Turner: You cheated!
    Jack Sparrow: Pirate.

    now lets bring this to a more relevant forum…

    Mark in Cincy: You noticed!
    Todd: Uniwatch.[/quote]
    beautiful[/quote]

    and since i beat you in posting that, (sarcastic reference to yesterdays “credit” snafu) you owe me some cincy chili.

  • Ryan B. | June 5, 2007 at 2:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”98010″]…besides, its not like we [Tottenham Hotspur-RB] chose the color of our rival. now what idiot club would do somthing like that?[/quote]

    Well, if you figure that there’s almost as much red (in the shirt sponsor’s logo, Mansion) in next year’s home kit as their is blue…hehe

  • Dan | June 5, 2007 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”98116″]DON CHERRY is a God here in Canada. He was influencing NHL policy while Charles Barkley was still toiling for the Sixers and Micheal Irving was still in college. His suits are usually co-ordinated with particular events. He even claimed that he “toned it down” last night for the American audiences last night suit wise. He brought up several good points about violence in hockey and how the American audience really wants it in hockey. Him coupled with Brett Hull must have had the censors hovering over the edit button all segment. All they needed was Jeremy Roenick to complete the triad. No offence but it puzzles me how American audiences can’t get with hockey… Its athletic, fast, violent, action packed etc. I know you guys get the shaft hockey brodcast wise down there but come on. Guess its like us Canadians looking at Nascar. We don’t get the novelty of it.[/quote]

    Hockey is so regionalized in the US. Unless you grew up watching it or playing it…you don’t really folllow it. I grew up in a town called Frederick, MD. No hockey rink…no hockey tradition. The only reason I was a Caps fan is that my step-dad had relocated to the area from Boston. He’d take me to Caps games, and taught me about hockey. So despite no hockey in my area…i love it.

    Now they have a rink…but for years, my buddies and I were getting kicked off of tennis courts because we weren’t allowed to rollerblade on them. We’d play hockey wherever we could! And we were looked at almost like outsiders because of it…like skateboarders or something, because it wasn’t the normal sport for people from that area.

    What I’ve learned about hockey…you take someone to a game…and more than likely, you’ve got them hooked. From the little bit they see on tv, they don’t get into the flow. I think they need to set every NHL arena up with the sky-cam that ESPN used for football. Let the camera follow the play out of the zone from just above the ice…let it float, and give people that EA Sports camera angle. THat’ll allow them to follow the puck, and let them see that there’s a lot more going on out there than 10 guys swatting randomly at a puck.

  • Jared Wheeler | June 5, 2007 at 2:56 pm |

    Any word on weather or not the Yankees will honor Clete Boyer with an armband? It may be interesting to see what they do considering they are already wearing the one for Lidle.

  • Teebz | June 5, 2007 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”98125″][quote comment=”98116″]DON CHERRY is a God here in Canada. He was influencing NHL policy while Charles Barkley was still toiling for the Sixers and Micheal Irving was still in college. His suits are usually co-ordinated with particular events. He even claimed that he “toned it down” last night for the American audiences last night suit wise. He brought up several good points about violence in hockey and how the American audience really wants it in hockey. Him coupled with Brett Hull must have had the censors hovering over the edit button all segment. All they needed was Jeremy Roenick to complete the triad. No offence but it puzzles me how American audiences can’t get with hockey… Its athletic, fast, violent, action packed etc. I know you guys get the shaft hockey brodcast wise down there but come on. Guess its like us Canadians looking at Nascar. We don’t get the novelty of it.[/quote]
    Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE HOCKEY. I live in the southern US and hockey ranks way above NASCAR and basketball on my sports totem. I’ve just grown tired of the whole “America can’t take Don Cherry because he tells it like it is and is so crazy” bit. YAWN.

    And the reason he probably “toned it down” last night for the American audience is because he generally looks like a fool in those outfits. But, like I said, I do enjoy them.[/quote]

    That’s what makes Don Cherry who he is: his coats and ridiculous collars and crazy ties and his outrageous comments. When a guy can insult French hockey players for wearing visors in Canada, you know he’s walking a very thin line.

    As for toning it down for Americans, he is told by NBC to do that. Do you think he wants to change his personality? That’s what made him famous.

    Don Cherry this season
    Don Cherry in the 1960s

  • Marc | June 5, 2007 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”98121″][quote comment=”98078″][quote comment=”98077″][quote comment=”98074″]I don’t remember batting helmets having such, well, sparse padding on the inside of them. Does Manny take the padding out of his helmet?[/quote]

    Usually it is that little piece of foam on the top and the leather around the rim…..since he has been using this same helmet for years, I would think most of it has fallen out…[/quote]

    As Mike Lowell shows here…
    http://sportsillustr...
    Anyone notice that Cano is missing his belt?

    Stupid question, I’m sure someone else has, this is Uni Watch.[/quote]

    Look closer guys, the reason u cant see Cano’s belt in that picture is becasue of the way the Yankees’ pants have their belt covers. The belt is on and is visible between the index and middle finger of Mike Lowell.

  • Anthony Verna | June 5, 2007 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”98136″]Don Cherry this season
    Don Cherry in the 1960s[/quote]

    Is that Joe Don Baker in the 2nd picture?

    http://mst3k.booyaka...

  • Teebz | June 5, 2007 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”98136″]
    Don Cherry in the 1980s[/quote]

    Sorry… Don Cherry started on Coach’s Corner in 1980. My bad.

  • Mr. Met | June 5, 2007 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”98118″][quote comment=”97934″]Hopefully someone can hlep me out with this: I want to have name and numbers stitched onto a blank Seattle Mariners jersey. Is there anyplace in New York that I can bring/mail the jersey to that would be able to stitch authentic Mariners’ name and numbers onto it?[/quote]

    Theres a place near me in astoria, and i know they will do mets stuff… Ill try and get the name for you.[/quote]

    Uhm thanks but I wasn’t asking where to get Mets stuff done. That I have no problem with; I’m looking to have a Seattle Mariners jersey done. Unless this place does all MLB teams, in which case that would be great.

  • Josh | June 5, 2007 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”98086″]Forgot to put pictures in about my minor league uniform comment

    Yankees Columbus Clippers:
    http://www.instantre...

    Nationals Columbus Clippers:
    http://clippersbaseb...

    Marlins Portland Sea Dogs:
    http://www.seadogs.c...

    Red Sox Portland Sea Dogs:
    http://bostondirtdog...

    I’m sure there’s other examples too.[/quote]
    In 2002 the Tennessee Smokies had navy / green as their team colors – Blue Jays Affiliate
    2002 Smokies

    In 2003-04 they were affiliated with the Cardinals and added red. Their G.M said that they didn’t want to be the only Cardinals affiliate where the players couldn’t wear their red spikes.
    Red Smokies

    Last year they switched to the Diamondbacks, and this year they are affiliated with the Cubs but they have kept the navy / red color scheme the last two years
    Current jersey

  • Mark in Cincy | June 5, 2007 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”98137″][quote comment=”98121″][quote comment=”98078″][quote comment=”98077″][quote comment=”98074″]I don’t remember batting helmets having such, well, sparse padding on the inside of them. Does Manny take the padding out of his helmet?[/quote]

    Usually it is that little piece of foam on the top and the leather around the rim…..since he has been using this same helmet for years, I would think most of it has fallen out…[/quote]

    As Mike Lowell shows here…
    http://sportsillustr...
    Anyone notice that Cano is missing his belt?

    Stupid question, I’m sure someone else has, this is Uni Watch.[/quote]

    Look closer guys, the reason u cant see Cano’s belt in that picture is becasue of the way the Yankees’ pants have their belt covers. The belt is on and is visible between the index and middle finger of Mike Lowell.[/quote]
    good point, it does look like there is something there, but i didn’t know the Yanks used a belt cover.

  • Joe Young | June 5, 2007 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”98147″][quote comment=”98137″][quote comment=”98121″][quote comment=”98078″][quote comment=”98077″][quote comment=”98074″]I don’t remember batting helmets having such, well, sparse padding on the inside of them. Does Manny take the padding out of his helmet?[/quote]

    Usually it is that little piece of foam on the top and the leather around the rim…..since he has been using this same helmet for years, I would think most of it has fallen out…[/quote]

    As Mike Lowell shows here…
    http://sportsillustr...
    Anyone notice that Cano is missing his belt?

    Stupid question, I’m sure someone else has, this is Uni Watch.[/quote]

    Look closer guys, the reason u cant see Cano’s belt in that picture is becasue of the way the Yankees’ pants have their belt covers. The belt is on and is visible between the index and middle finger of Mike Lowell.[/quote]
    good point, it does look like there is something there, but i didn’t know the Yanks used a belt cover.[/quote]

    Its not a belt cover, its just a belt loop. Loops on the side and back of baseball pants are fairly large. From angle of picture all you see it just that one loop

  • Brad | June 5, 2007 at 3:24 pm |

    Regarding the Columbus Clippers uniform changes:

    They have only “Nationalized” the alternate jersey, which I think is completely new… I don’t think we had an alternate last year. The home and away uniforms are the same they’ve been since the mid nineties, when the Yankees changed our colors from a more Cubs-like red-white-blue to the Yankees-like dark blue pinstripes.

    The Yankees also, over the years, changed the logo from this to this to finally this. I personally like the one in the middle the best, it is what I remeber seeing going to games in elementary school. Here is a history of the Clippers which includes several pictures from their history. I especially like the Pittsburgh Pirates-style pillbox hats they wore in the late ’70s. (They were affiliated with the Buccos ’77-’78).

  • douglas | June 5, 2007 at 3:27 pm |

    to # 67 : True! Plus those who argue about the right word to use for “soccer” uniforms would better start by calling the sport by its real name, FOOTBALL, if they want to educate other people. Only British countries still use “shirt” in English, maybe some Commonwealth as well. Spanish and Portuguese speaking coutries also described it as a shirt (camisa, camiseta, camisola), mostly due to the period (late 19th) when the players wore actual shirts. In italian(maglia), french(maillot), german(trikot), and even spanish (chàndal), it is rather a sweater than a shirt, if not the fabric itself. Since the usage of these words depends on people’s knowledge (not everyone is a UniWatch member), there is no universal term, let alone shirt. I think jersey is the most appropriate for any sport uniform top, at least in english.

  • pete m | June 5, 2007 at 3:30 pm |

    I hate to be political in this forum. I lived with a Canadian and he had a huge Don Cherry poster.It was pretty cool. I never thought much aboot(haha) him until I read he stood up for America and it’s wars overseas, basically taking Canadians to task for not supporting the US. I don’t know if this is true or not, if it is ,props to him, he has balls and convictions.

  • Anthony Verna | June 5, 2007 at 3:31 pm |

    I visited the English experts at the Merriam Webster dictionary and found the following:

    Main Entry: jer·sey
    Pronunciation: ‘j&r-zE
    Function: noun
    Inflected Form(s): plural jerseys
    Etymology: Jersey, one of the Channel Islands
    1 : a plain weft-knitted fabric made of wool, cotton, nylon, rayon, or silk and used especially for clothing
    2 : any of various close-fitting usually circular-knitted garments especially for the upper body
    3 capitalized : any of a breed of small short-horned predominantly yellowish brown or fawn dairy cattle noted for their rich milk

  • patrick | June 5, 2007 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”98140″][quote comment=”98118″][quote comment=”97934″]Hopefully someone can hlep me out with this: I want to have name and numbers stitched onto a blank Seattle Mariners jersey. Is there anyplace in New York that I can bring/mail the jersey to that would be able to stitch authentic Mariners’ name and numbers onto it?[/quote]

    Theres a place near me in astoria, and i know they will do mets stuff… Ill try and get the name for you.[/quote]

    Uhm thanks but I wasn’t asking where to get Mets stuff done. That I have no problem with; I’m looking to have a Seattle Mariners jersey done. Unless this place does all MLB teams, in which case that would be great.[/quote]

    And i was telling you that they do Mets jerseys… after someone said the mets and mariners use the same font…. so dont look a gift answer in the mouth

  • Banker Bill | June 5, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”97952″]Thanks for the “shout out” Paul.

    No one ever has a better argument for chosing the number 12. You just can’t argue with science and logic.[/quote]

    MG – that is the smartest, most thought out numeral choice I have ever heard. When I finally get around to my membership, I’ll just choose my favorite number – with no scientific reason at all.

  • todd krevanchi | June 5, 2007 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”98137″]Look closer guys, the reason u cant see Cano’s belt in that picture is becasue of the way the Yankees’ pants have their belt covers. The belt is on and is visible between the index and middle finger of Mike Lowell.[/quote]

    todd: marc you magnificent bastard!!!!
    marc: uniwatch.

    i guess i was looking at the belt area in the negative field. as though that loop was an exposed area and vice versa…

  • Ryan B. | June 5, 2007 at 4:03 pm |

    Let me just say that the first batch of UniWatch members seems to be very modest. Anyone else notice that nobody in this first wave of members chose the number 1?

    I just thought that was something. Maybe I assumed 1 would be a more popular number than it is.

  • Dean | June 5, 2007 at 4:03 pm |

    Another Minor League team to change uniforms was the Norfolk Tides. Who as a Mets affiliate wore blue and white if I remember. Now they are an O’s affiliate and have added red for some reason. On MLB ’07 the show they wear black and orange. Also some other uni related things I have noticed while playing. When you wear high socks they are just the sock not stirrups, but if you wear the pant legs all the way down you can see stirrups. Also Jamie Moyer wear high socks and even has the liberty bell logo.

  • JayD | June 5, 2007 at 4:08 pm |

    Little side note about Don Cherry aka Grapes. Alot of times on Coaches Corner after the 1st period of HNIC if there has been a tragedy such as a member of the Canadian Armed Forces being killed in Afganistan … Cherry will take a few minutes out of Coaches Corner at the end to show a picture of the fallen soldier and tell a little side story about him as a touching tribute. He often points out how young most of our American and Canadien soldiers are over there and how these soldiers look just like and could be athletes. Lines like “look at him, don’t he look like just like a hockey player!?”… Grapes = Class Act.

  • Nolan | June 5, 2007 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”98166″]Let me just say that the first batch of UniWatch members seems to be very modest. Anyone else notice that nobody in this first wave of members chose the number 1?

    I just thought that was something. Maybe I assumed 1 would be a more popular number than it is.[/quote]

    No, 1 was chosen, just in the form of a fraction. 9/9.

  • todd krevanchi | June 5, 2007 at 4:16 pm |

    during my time in college at millersville university (pa), our football team would not issue out jersey #1. it was believed that the team as a unit was #1. if im not mistaken, the jersey hung in its own locker as well.

  • Jim | June 5, 2007 at 4:24 pm |

    http://farm2.static....

    I’m ashamed that, as a Cub fan, I hadn’t seen enough games this year to have realized that the addition of signage on the outfield wall wasn’t the ONLY disgraceful display of marketing new to the park. When did they replace “Welcome to the Friendly Confines of Wrigley Field” on the visiting dugout with an ad for … never mind. I don’t want the company to get more for their dirty money. Did they do the same thing to the home dugout?

  • Nick Maibroda | June 5, 2007 at 4:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”98169″]Little side note about Don Cherry aka Grapes. Alot of times on Coaches Corner after the 1st period of HNIC if there has been a tragedy such as a member of the Canadian Armed Forces being killed in Afganistan … Cherry will take a few minutes out of Coaches Corner at the end to show a picture of the fallen soldier and tell a little side story about him as a touching tribute. He often points out how young most of our American and Canadien soldiers are over there and how these soldiers look just like and could be athletes. Lines like “look at him, don’t he look like just like a hockey player!?”… Grapes = Class Act.[/quote]
    Absolutely right! I am big Don Cherry fan, but I don’t always agree with his views, but he is one of the few people in Canada who is open about his support for the troops. They play an important role in our society and he takes the time to acknowledge them.

  • anthony | June 5, 2007 at 4:56 pm |

    Paul & Co.,
    Thanks for designing my membership card to reflect the home jersey (Yankees #15) – The pinstripes look awesome! I was curious to see what your design department would create for my card when I left the home/away jersey decision up to them. They truly are All-Pro!

  • Will | June 5, 2007 at 4:57 pm |

    Found a picture of the new Arsenal kit (seems official to me): http://i9.tinypic.co...

    I hate the gunners, but I love the socks.

  • BA | June 5, 2007 at 5:56 pm |

    Chauncey Billups signed a “lifetime” contract with Adidas. Chauncey doesnt seem like the kind of guy they would want for that. LeBron, Kobe, or D-Wade maybe, but not Chauncey…

    Heres the article (not sure why its in the denver post):
    http://www.denverpos...

  • Jamie | June 5, 2007 at 6:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”98202″]Chauncey Billups signed a “lifetime” contract with Adidas. Chauncey doesnt seem like the kind of guy they would want for that. LeBron, Kobe, or D-Wade maybe, but not Chauncey…

    Heres the article (not sure why its in the denver post):
    http://www.denverpos...

    It’s Denver Post because that is Billups’ home town (and he played for Colorado in college). I am fairly certain that he returns to Denver in the off-season.

  • Andy from KC | June 5, 2007 at 6:22 pm |

    I can’t read all this sweater talk and not put up this pic. There. I feel better. (That’s … brain damage!)

    Seriously, I’d rather call it a hockey jersey than a sweater, but as long as no one’s calling it a “shirt,” I’ll shut up.

  • Ron | June 5, 2007 at 6:23 pm |

    Alanis Morisette sang the national anthem prior to game 4. You’ll notice that the Stanley Cup patch is over her left shoulder. Should be on the right like the players.

  • douglas | June 5, 2007 at 6:56 pm |

    And how could this look like a shirt to anyone? That’s why I believe jersey would be the most appropriate term for these, not because it’s accurate, but because in most languages people rather refer to the fabric itself (see Anthony ‘s definition) than the actual garment, wich people generally ignore the technical term that is specific to each uniform.

  • Erik | June 5, 2007 at 7:26 pm |

    Those arsenal uniforms are b-e-a-uuuuutiful

  • Andy from KC | June 5, 2007 at 7:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”98226″]And how could this look like a shirt to anyone? That’s why I believe jersey would be the most appropriate term for these, not because it’s accurate, but because in most languages people rather refer to the fabric itself (see Anthony ‘s definition) than the actual garment, wich people generally ignore the technical term that is specific to each uniform.[/quote]

    It doesn’t look like a shirt to anyone but the most casual fan — that was my point with the “shirt” remark. Sweater, jersey, kit, they’re all fine by me, but watching a game and hearing someone next to you refer to a jersey as a “shirt” is like fingernails on the chalkboard while being dunked in ice water.

  • Joey Guns | June 5, 2007 at 7:59 pm |

    Maybe I just don’t pay that close attention, but how many teams (besides the Phillies) have some players using cool-flo helmets and some players using the regular helmets?

  • Joey Guns | June 5, 2007 at 8:01 pm |

    Anyone see the moron in the front row of the Mets/Phils game with the red and gold viking outfit on? What an idiot………

  • Mr. Met | June 5, 2007 at 8:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”98157″]And i was telling you that they do Mets jerseys… after someone said the mets and mariners use the same font…. so dont look a gift answer in the mouth[/quote]

    I just asked whether they do all MLB teams.

    Just because they do Mets stuff doesn’t mean they would do all MLB teams, and I was hoping maybe you knew whether they do or not. I didn’t mean any disrespect or anything like that, so I don’t know why you have to respond like some internet tough guy.

    What, by the way, is a gift answer? Any relation to a gift horse? And how does an answer have a mouth?

  • Mr. Met | June 5, 2007 at 8:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”98246″]Maybe I just don’t pay that close attention, but how many teams (besides the Phillies) have some players using cool-flo helmets and some players using the regular helmets?[/quote]

    Atlanta Braves.

  • Joey Guns | June 5, 2007 at 8:21 pm |

    Speaking of Jamie Moyer………..the Mets announcers just said “No one wears stirrups any more, barely the coaches”. Keith Hernandez just called Moyer’s stirrups “minor league ugly”. Ron Darling goes “Is that like Coyote Ugly?”

    Top of the 5th inning (right after Moyer’s at-bat)

  • Ron | June 5, 2007 at 8:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”98250″][quote comment=”98246″]Maybe I just don’t pay that close attention, but how many teams (besides the Phillies) have some players using cool-flo helmets and some players using the regular helmets?[/quote]

    Atlanta Braves.[/quote]

    The Oakland A’s

  • Dave A | June 5, 2007 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”98015″][quote comment=”98003″][quote comment=”97997″][quote comment=”97993″][quote comment=”97962″]
    It seems like we have most folks using the correct soccer term of kit. So why do people INSIST on calling a hockey sweater a jersey. It’s called a sweater. Just ask Don Cherry[/quote]

    I have gone over this many times. Hockey sweaters were sweaters when they were made of wool. They are now made of polyester, and are referred to as “sweaters” or “jerseys” due to their polyester nature.

    Both terms are completely acceptable. Why split hairs over a word that means the exact same thing to hockey fans everywhere? I am a traditionalist when it comes to hockey, but I call them jerseys because they are no longer sweaters in the sense of a wool sweater. They don’t fit like a wool sweater. They don’t feel like a wool sweater. They don’t keep you warm like a wool sweater.

    Honestly… sweater or jersey is like “toe-MATE-toe” or “toe-MAH-toe”. Neither is wrong.[/quote]
    I’m sorry I disagree, and so do most Canadians. It’s called a sweater and will always be regardless of what material it is made of. I we were to follow your logic then hockey fans could call a goal tender a goal keeper. Just because other sports call it a jersey doesn’t mean it’s correct to call a hockey sweater that.[/quote]

    Um, I am a Canadian, and if you own polyester sweaters, that’s your business. Are you willing to speak on behalf of “most Canadians” because I’m going to say that “most Canadians” wouldn’t care one way or another.

    Do you call sweatshirts “sweaters”? They’re made of polyester and fit like a sweater. Do you call long-sleeved T-shirts “sweaters”? They’re made of polyester and fit like a sweater. Do you call button-up shirts “sweaters”? They’re made of cotton and polyester and fit like a sweater.

    My opinion is not right, nor have I ever said it was. My opinion is just that: an opinion.[/quote]
    When I go home to Mississauga I never hear anyone say jersey. Yes I realize that it is not technically a sweater anymore. But it is correct and traditional to say sweater and not jersey. And it will always be that way, even when those silly new Reebok things come out next year.[/quote]

    To chime in as another Canuck on the sweater/jersey controversy, just because it’s not wool doesn’t mean it’s not a sweater anymore. Who made that rule?

    I prefer sweater, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t make any difference to me…

    Hey Marty…where are you in Mississauga? I’m near Square One myself.

  • Mike Engle | June 5, 2007 at 8:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”98249″][quote comment=”98157″]And i was telling you that they do Mets jerseys… after someone said the mets and mariners use the same font…. so dont look a gift answer in the mouth[/quote]

    I just asked whether they do all MLB teams.

    Just because they do Mets stuff doesn’t mean they would do all MLB teams, and I was hoping maybe you knew whether they do or not. I didn’t mean any disrespect or anything like that, so I don’t know why you have to respond like some internet tough guy.

    What, by the way, is a gift answer? Any relation to a gift horse? And how does an answer have a mouth?[/quote]
    Try , affiliated with the aforementioned . They have every team’s font and most recent obsolete fonts. Class-act operation. For the record, they do replica jerseys with the correct fonts. So you Cubs fan that fears getting your jersey customized with the lame-o generic font, don’t fret. They get it right.

  • Mike Engle | June 5, 2007 at 8:45 pm |

    Re: comment 166
    http://www dot balljerseys dot com
    Its sister site: http://www dot icejerseys dot com
    Have to beat the filter.

  • Dave A | June 5, 2007 at 8:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”98033″]Paul… an idea for a column… I was watching a Pawtucket Red Sox-Columbus Clippers game on Thursday and noticed that the Clippers (formerly a Yankee farm team) have changed their logo to match with their current affiliation with the Washington Nationals. Many teams do this. The Portland Sea Dogs switched from Marlins colors to Red Sox Colors a few years back. All of the Yankees farm clubs (Tampa, Trenton, Scranton-Wilkes Barre, now have pinstriped uniforms.) It could be interesting to note some of the changes that have been made recently as teams have switched affiliations.[/quote]

    No pictures, unfortunately, but Mike McCann’s site does a great job in documenting minor league baseball history, including year-by-year affiliations and changes and histories of defunct leagues. Well worth checking out for any minor league fan.

  • Mr. Met | June 5, 2007 at 8:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”98266″]Re: comment 166
    http://www dot balljerseys dot com
    Its sister site: http://www dot icejerseys dot com
    Have to beat the filter.[/quote]

    That’s exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so very much.

  • Mike Engle | June 5, 2007 at 9:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”98268″][quote comment=”98266″]Re: comment 166
    http://www dot balljerseys dot com
    Its sister site: http://www dot icejerseys dot com
    Have to beat the filter.[/quote]

    That’s exactly what I was looking for. Thank you so very much.[/quote]
    Glad to help you, sir.

  • Dave from Jersey | June 5, 2007 at 9:45 pm |

    HELP!! PAUL AND FELLOW UNIWATCHERS!!

    I am playing for a new team this summer and I am looking for a nice pair of striped stirrups to wear. The team is called the Cubs and the only blue stirrups I have found with red stripes are not big enough and they are low cut. I want high cut stirrups that show alot of calf. It’s very easy to find stirrups online but barely any striped ones. PLEASE HELP!! Thanks in advance!

  • Sammy | June 5, 2007 at 10:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”98051″][quote comment=”98048″][quote comment=”98043″][quote comment=”97961″][quote comment=”97944″]It was definitely Len Kasper and Bob Brenly (note spelling). I watched the game. Pat Hughes works with Ron Santo on the radio and he does a daily uniform update, describing in detail what the players for both teams are wearing for the radio listeners in the early innings … “The Cubs are wearing their home white pinstriped tops with matching pants, blue shoes, blue caps and blue socks…”[/quote]
    Michael Kay, when he was on the radio for the Yankees used to do the same thing. Unfortuanetly, that, and any sense of dignity left with him after he moved to TV. I, just like many Yankees fans, will turn the radio back on once the Yankees fire Suzyn Waldman and/or John Sterling.[/quote]

    When Michael Kay first moved to TV, he called the games like he was still on the radio, with the uniform descriptions and all. In recent years, he stopped.

    It still saddens me that the Yankees diluted their strong broadcasting team by separating Sterling and Kay. I think they should be reunited, even if its to host the “Batting Practice” show (which has very few minutes of actual batting practice).[/quote]
    Fire Suzyn Waldman?! OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS!!! LOL!

    I’m unclear on something: why do Yankees’ fans need to have their uniform described to them? It’s not like there is a plethora of alternate combos. I could see with the Cubs, because they could be sporting the blue alt. Or the White Sox since they have a jersey, vest and black alt.

    I would think, if you’re a yanks’ fan, you know damn well what the team is wearing.[/quote]

    Good point…but remember there is another team that probably has many options. Besides, it’s a great way to start a broadcast.[/quote]

    Ken Kal on the Red Wings radio play-by-play used to always say what the Wings were wearing, even though it was obvious. That’s one thing I always remember, about five minutes into the first period, in that dead time between player introductions and scouting reports but before any real action on the ice. “The Red Wings, skating right to left across your radio dial, wearing their road red (sweaters/jerseys–I can’t remember which he would call them) with white numbers and trim,” or vice versa. He would usually introduce the opponents uniforms too. Since they switched to a different station, I haven’t listened to a game on the radio in a long time.

  • Hed-Bone | June 5, 2007 at 10:28 pm |

    Along with putting “Baltimore” on the road jerseys, the O’s should go back to using the cartoon bird on the hats as well.

  • jeff in detroit | June 5, 2007 at 10:47 pm |

    couple of interesting things from tonights tigers-rangers game. first placido polanco got hit by a pitch in the 4th inning that hit the front of his jersey and swung around to the back and the jersey became untucked. second pudge rodriguez put tape on his fingers to start the 5th inning after jason grilli had trouble seeing the signs.

  • =bg= | June 5, 2007 at 11:03 pm |

    Got a swell Cincinnati Stingers sweater on eBay- a replica. But since I’m now in CA and the team was in Ohio- I think ‘jersey’ ia OK. Not traditional, but OK.

  • af | June 5, 2007 at 11:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”98255″]Speaking of Jamie Moyer………..the Mets announcers just said “No one wears stirrups any more, barely the coaches”.

    Keith Hernandez just called Moyer’s stirrups “minor league ugly”. Ron Darling goes “Is that like Coyote Ugly?”

    Top of the 5th inning (right after Moyer’s at-bat)[/quote]

    But, but, Moyer has the Liberty Bell on his stirrups.

    Actually, that was quite a digression for the 5th inning of a tied ballgame.

  • Gavin | June 5, 2007 at 11:24 pm |

    Aramis Ramirez was showing sock tonight… that made three Cubs in the starting lineup (with Pie and Soriano). Let’s hope this is a trend that catches on…

  • Jeff C. | June 5, 2007 at 11:51 pm |

    during the 7th inning of the d’backs game Mark Grace was talking about Tony Pena’s red glove and red shoes.

  • Joey Guns | June 5, 2007 at 11:52 pm |

    Reyes still wearing last year’s hat…….

    http://sports.yahoo....

    (Delgado did also)

  • =bg= | June 5, 2007 at 11:59 pm |

    Randy has MESSENGER on his jersey tonight. But that flat lid on his cap looks ridiculous.

  • =bg= | June 6, 2007 at 12:01 am |

    PS he also switched to “23”

  • BA | June 6, 2007 at 12:02 am |

    Dodger’s catcher Russell Martin has a huge tear in his pants after sliding back into first in the top of the 7th. Not to mention how dirty he is…gotta love how he plays. Best Catcher in the NL this season so far.

    If you east coasters havent seen him play, he is a stud…and will be around for a long time.

  • David | June 6, 2007 at 12:15 am |

    why was cleveland wearing the blue alternates at home

  • David | June 6, 2007 at 12:16 am |

  • Minna H. | June 6, 2007 at 12:29 am |

    I found this link at SI, but I wanted to link directly since I have been having trouble linking SI lately. It’s in the 10 blog/spot.

    Get your pasta here.

    Enjoy!

  • SD Chris | June 6, 2007 at 12:44 am |

    North Face jackets just might be what you’ll see in MLB dugouts next season. Majestic’s new parent company, VF Imagewear, also owns North Face. Things that make you go hmmmmmm.

  • Jeff C. | June 6, 2007 at 12:54 am |

    the guy who played for Bonds today was missing his sf sticker on his batting helmet in the 10th inning

  • tessa | June 6, 2007 at 1:02 am |

    So, we know the Olympic logo is ugly, but can you believe that it is dangerous?

    See, doubters, obsessing over aesthetics is not just fun – it can also save lives.

  • Dustin | June 6, 2007 at 1:52 am |

    [quote comment=”98257″]To chime in as another Canuck on the sweater/jersey controversy, just because it’s not wool doesn’t mean it’s not a sweater anymore. Who made that rule?

    I prefer sweater, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t make any difference to me…
    [/quote]
    [quote comment=”98116″]DON CHERRY is a God here in Canada. … He brought up several good points about violence in hockey and how the American audience really wants it in hockey. … I know you guys get the shaft hockey brodcast wise down there but come on.[/quote]
    Wow, there is a lot of great conversation about hockey today!

    Growing up in Green Bay, WI, I had little exposure to hockey until we earned a Junior A team (when I was about 12), which has bred Cup finalists such as Ty Conklin, Matt Greene, Tom Preissing and Ryan Carter. I really got into the game due to the 93-94 playoffs when I first got cable.

    I went to a small college with a rich hockey tradition in Michigan Tech (at least in the 60’s and 70’s…and hopefully soon again), and in addition to Tech, I was blessed enough to see the powerhouse conference that is the WCHA. Also while at Tech, I was blessed enough to have access to CBC; not being able to tune into it now depresses me (except for the playoffs last year, where the some CBC playoff games were streamed over Yahoo!).

    To add to the sweater/jersey action, despite being an American, I constantly call them “sweaters,” despite my friends’ despise for that term. I call uniforms in other sports either “uniforms” or “jerseys.” Anyone using similar terms is fine with me, as it all describes the same item.

    Finally, we do have quite the hockey shaft here in the States. They’re constantly crying about violence in the game. I agree to a point: there should be strict penalties for stupid actions like chopping someone in the face with a stick, but occasional fighting has its purpose. But there is a need for fighting; it allows the skill players to do what they do best because others don’t want to mess with an enforcer.

    Post: the font for the Senators is called Serpentine Bold.

  • Dustin | June 6, 2007 at 1:59 am |

    [quote comment=”98292″]Ken Kal on the Red Wings radio play-by-play used to always say what the Wings were wearing, even though it was obvious. That’s one thing I always remember, about five minutes into the first period, in that dead time between player introductions and scouting reports but before any real action on the ice. “The Red Wings, skating right to left across your radio dial, wearing their road red (sweaters/jerseys–I can’t remember which he would call them) with white numbers and trim,” or vice versa. He would usually introduce the opponents uniforms too. Since they switched to a different station, I haven’t listened to a game on the radio in a long time.[/quote]
    Ken’s a great guy. I had the chance to meet him when he announced a Michigan Tech game during the lockout season.

    Another guy who does the similar thing is Ted Davis for the Milwaukee Bucks. What’s funny is that it’s a sponsored segment! It’s usually the same…something like: “Tonight, the Bucks are wearing their road forest green jerseys with white and silver numbers and red trim.”

    Then there’s Packers’ play-by-play guy Wayne Larivee who goes into great detail…wearing their road whites with green numerals and gold pants…and the Bears are wearing their home navy jerseys with white numbers with red piping (or something similar).

  • Dave LaFountain | June 6, 2007 at 2:48 am |

    Here is the info on Jason Spezza’s jersey from Barry Meisel who runs the NHL’s Meigray Game Worn Program that the Senators particpate itn.

    “Spezza’s jersey, MGG No. D07905, was significantly ripped during a second-period incident with Anaheim’s Samuel Pahlsson. Spezza took his jersey off when it was ripped from the neck to the crest, and since Spezza had to go to the penalty box, he went briefly off the ice while Mike Comrie served his penalty.

    While Spezza’s jersey was being repaired, he emerged with Eaves’ No. 44 (Eaves took the warmup and then did not play, and his jersey was immediately available) and served the rest of his penalty. When Spezza emerged from the box, he went to the bench and put back on his quickly repaired No. 19.”

    So there you have it, Spezza’s jersey was repaired before he put the 19 back on.

  • Sage Confucius | June 6, 2007 at 7:18 am |

    [quote comment=”98210″]Alanis Morisette sang the national anthem prior to game 4. You’ll notice that the Stanley Cup patch is over her left shoulder. Should be on the right like the players.[/quote]

    I can forgive that indiscretion since she let the Canadian fans sing a good portion of O Canada. I’m not Canadian, but that was awesome.

  • lemonverbena | June 6, 2007 at 8:43 am |

    George Mikan’s MPLS gear to be auctioned by Sotheby’s:

    Among items planned for a Sotheby’s auction of apparel worn by sports legends today are a road jersey and shorts worn by former Minneapolis Laker George Mikan during the 1947-48 NBA season, Bloomberg News reports.

    That was news to Mikan’s widow, Pat, who was married to George for 59 years. George died two years ago.

    “It’s not being done by us,” she told the Pioneer Press Monday. “We do have some (memorabilia) pieces that are nice and good and interesting, but I’m not a pauper by any means, and we’re not ready to put them up. We weren’t living hand to hand, even though (the NBA pension) wasn’t good for us. That’s supposed to improve next month, but we’ll see.”

  • Adam | June 6, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”98246″]Maybe I just don’t pay that close attention, but how many teams (besides the Phillies) have some players using cool-flo helmets and some players using the regular helmets?[/quote]

    I think most (all?) teams do. Seems like every team has a default, but a lot of times you’ll see a few players wearing the other. Like, the White Sox mostly use normal helmets, but have a few cool-flos.

  • James Craven | June 6, 2007 at 3:32 pm |

    As far as Chelsea’s new yellow highlighter marker clash kits:

    ZE GOGGLES, ZEY DO NOTHING!!!