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C(r)aptastic

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I know some of you are sick of all Mets chatter on this site, but there are reasons why they keep coming up for discussion. Among them: No other team wears its designated road cap at home; no other team hardly ever wears its designated home uniform; no other team lets the color of their dugout jacket affect which cap they’ll wear at home; no other team has three different undershirt colors (the orange ones appeared to have been banished, but David Wright has recently revived them); and so on.

One of the more annoying aspects of this is that the team’s two black caps — one has a blue brim, the other is solid black — don’t even have matching “NY” logos. The logo on the blue-brimmed “road” cap (which is also worn for most home games, but whatever) is blue outlined in orange, while the one on the black alternate cap is blue outlined in white with an orange drop shadow. (And that’s not counting yet another version that appears on their color-gradated batting helmets, where the logo is black outlined in white with an orange drop shadow.)

All of which brings us to last night’s Giants/Mets game at Shea. The Mets were wearing the blue-brimmed “road” caps, so their cap logos were blue outlined in orange — except for rookie outfielder Carlos Gomez. He had a blue-brimmed cap, but it featured the white-outlined logo.

What this means, of course, is that New Era attached the wrong brim to the wrong crown. But really, who can blame them? I prefer to blame the team that was stupid enough to come up with two different but very similar logos for its two black-crowned caps. Remember, you can’t have quality control unless there’s actually some quality to be controlled. And in the case of the Mets’ headwear program, the quality has been sorely lacking for some time now.

(Special thanks to and Brian Erni and Neil Bisman, who were the first ones to spot Gomez’s cap snafu.)

Research Project: Speaking of caps, I’m trying to document as many instances as possible of MLB players wearing last year’s caps (easily identifiable by the gray underbrim) and/or not wearing the new BP caps (the Mets, for example, appear to have abandoned the new BP cap design altogether). Some of you have been pointing out examples of this for weeks, and at first I didn’t pay much attention, but now it strikes me that these two trends — not wearing the new 5950s and not wearing the new BP caps — may represent the largest rejection of a new uni element we’ve ever witnessed.

So if you spot good examples of players eschewing this year’s headwear, please let me know.

Membership Update: Several of you have asked why the Uni Watch membership program, which I announced nearly two weeks ago, still isn’t up and running. I was originally going to say, “I’m superstitious — as long as the Yankees keep losing, I don’t want to do anything to upset the cosmic order,” but the fact of the matter is that it’s taking a bit longer than I’d expected to get everything set up (who knew there were so many different sizes of laminating sleeves to choose from?), and I don’t want to take anyone’s money until everything is ready to go. But hang in there — Uni Watch design director Scott M.X. Turner and I are diligently working away (which basically means he’s working his ass off while I keep asking him to make little changes to this or that), and we should be good to go in a few more days. Thanks for your patience.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Stop whatever you’re doing and check out what Frank Mercogliano just found: a mid-1980s video that features umpire Eric Gregg wearing a Cubs windbreaker and struggling to put on some makeshift gear (the umpiring crew’s gear had been lost) and the Expos’ powder blue road uniforms. Plus a double-flap batting helmet, the Cubbies’ old sleeve patch, and strained commentary from Bill Murray. Essential. … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: We’ve talked before about the cross pin on Billy Martin’s cap. But I didn’t realize that the pin was also depicted on Martin’s plaque in Monument Park. … Also from yesterday: Great shot I hadn’t seen before of the Sox in shorts. … Josh Fisher notes that the Utah Utes were wearing some totally boss striped hosiery in the recent MWC Baseball Tourney. … Alabama has unveiled a set of coaches’ shirts, rendered in gray, red, and white. “Note the football laces at the base of the placket,” says Doug Simpson, who brought the shirts to my attention. … Uni Watch design director Scott M.X. Turner somehow found time in between membership-related projects (see update above) to note the following: “It’s not just U.S. sports teams that get throwback tributes wrong. How come Celtic couldn’t get this right? They’re celebrating the 40th anniversary of the Celtic club that won the European Cup in 1967. The striping doesn’t match, they didn’t copy the numbers on the shorts, and the goalies back then wore yellow tops, not the black shirts today’s goalies are sporting. And if they REALLY wanted to pay tribute, they’d eschew the Carling corporate tag on the current shirts, as well as the Celtic chest shield and Nike logo creep.” … Jeremy Brahm sent along some pics from the FIVB World League (that’s volleyball, people). Interesting to see the Argentinean team using a center color gradation, and the Egyptians wearing, as Jeremy put it, “castoffs from the Adidas soccer teams.”

 

234 comments to C(r)aptastic

  • Marcus Ramsey | May 30, 2007 at 8:10 am |

    Paul, you could of at least said something nice about the Giants uni’s. I mean, the Mets are supposed to be half Giants and half Dodgers right? Sorry the Giants gave you the black part, but at least the Giants uniforms look nice.

  • Vincent A. Cipollone | May 30, 2007 at 8:19 am |

    I’m surprised you caught that because when I was looking at the black cap, I didn’t notice the difference at first because they look similar to the logo on the batting helmets. Good catch.

  • Lockbull | May 30, 2007 at 8:22 am |

    As for Celtic, just be glad they didn’t put in the big swooshes in the empty stands at Celtic Park!

  • Vincent A. Cipollone | May 30, 2007 at 8:25 am |

    Speaking of soccer, does anybody know the difference between soccer socks, baseball socks, and white sanitaries?

  • Mark in Shiga | May 30, 2007 at 8:27 am |

    I think Frank’s video of the Cubs-Expos game is from 1987. Didn’t Andre Dawson play in that game?

  • CBates22 | May 30, 2007 at 8:29 am |

    To quote Fred Gwynne:

    “What the hell is a Ute?”

    Sorry, had to be done.

  • Brady | May 30, 2007 at 8:30 am |

    Like Alabama in the Ticker article, Oklahoma (OU) has released their Nike “Endline” series coaches shirts as well (with the football stitching on the collar); however, note that they have doomed us all and produced a BLACK version to go with the traditional Red and White (or Crimson and Cream to be really correct):

    Red

    White

    Black

    You will have to scroll down a bit on the pages to see the shirts.

  • Paul Lukas | May 30, 2007 at 8:32 am |

    [quote comment=”94742″]I think Frank’s video of the Cubs-Expos game is from 1987. Didn’t Andre Dawson play in that game?[/quote]

    I believe it’s actually 1986. At one point the broadcaster mentions how the Expos are looking for big things from Galarraga “now that Hubie Brooks is gone.” Brooks played only 80 games in 1986, due to injury; Galarraga, meanwhile, was spending his first full season in the bigs.

  • Ken L | May 30, 2007 at 8:37 am |

    I posted this yesterday, but it got lost in the comments section…I felt a repost was in order!

    Some interesting things out of NCAA lacrosse action this weekend, where Johns Hopkins won its 9th NCAA and 44th overall National title:
    Cornell was sporting some awesome socks.

    Hopkins wore their snazzy powder blue jersey for the championship game against Duke, and their unfortunately Nike-fied whites for the semifinal against Delaware.

    If you look closely at the second Hopkins picture, you’ll notice an aspect of the uniform that made an appearance throughout the weekend, and has generated a bit of buzz on both the sportslogos.net forum and especially the laxpower forum. The Hopkins helmets featured a smiling cartoon blue jay wearing a ‘JHU’ sweater and wielding a lacrosse stick (better, high-resolution picture). As an alumni member of the Hopkins band, I’ve seen nearly every Hopkins lacrosse game over the past five years, and was familiar with the fact that such a logo existed (and was created in the 1960’s), but had never seen it on the helmet until this weekend’s games. It’s really an amazing looking logo (especially if you’re fond of retro cartoon logos), and echoes the general trend I’ve seen of teams embracing their old cartoon logos (like the Reds and Padres).

  • Pittsburgh Gunny | May 30, 2007 at 8:41 am |

    That Celtic team that won the European Cup were nicknamed the Lisbon Lions because they won the Cup in Portugal. Here is nice little gallery saluting that team.

  • Robert | May 30, 2007 at 8:46 am |

    Seeing the ballgirl in the Cubs video reminds me of the greatest ballgirl of all time, the great Marla Collins. I would watch Cubs games in the 1980s just to see her.

    http://ignarski.trip...

  • dirwuf | May 30, 2007 at 8:48 am |

    The Cubs-Billl Murray video is definitely from 1987. This is when Harry Carry suffered a stroke and missed the first month or two of the season. In addition to Murray, guest announcers included Tom Bosley and George Will.

  • bj in gainesville | May 30, 2007 at 8:50 am |

    [quote comment=”94741″]Speaking of soccer, does anybody know the difference between soccer socks, baseball socks, and white sanitaries?[/quote]

    Soccer socks are often much longer than baseball socks, as they are usually folded to the length desired (and to hold the shin guards in). Baseball socks are basically standard. Sanitaries are very thin, as they’re designed to be layered.

    Re lax finals: Hopkins’ blue unis also have the Swoosh under the collar, but in a less obvious white. the helmet logo really bothered me, as the coaching staff’s shirts and all other JHU logos were the stylized BlueJay logo. And both teams (Duke and JHU) wore black warmup shirts. also, UNC wore socks with the interlocking UNC logo when they lost to Duke.

  • Original Jim | May 30, 2007 at 8:50 am |

    Maybe someone can explain this one to me…

    In the picture of the Argentinian volleyball team, there’s a player in the back row who wears #2. The 2 is underlined, just above the Visa logo, but it’s not underlined for player #12.

    Does the underline signify “Captain”?

  • Mark in Shiga | May 30, 2007 at 8:55 am |

    Paul, you could be right, but they could also be referring to Hubie no longer being on the team; not just out with an injury.

    Another 1987-only guy who I remember playing in the Bill Murray game was Alonzo Powell. All 14 of his games with the Expos were in 1987. He never amounted to much in the majors, but he later came to Japan and played with distinction for several seasons.

  • DCM | May 30, 2007 at 9:04 am |

    Too bad about the Mets unis, since they have 2 or 3 sets (without the black) that look great.

    There’s another ChiSox in shorts photo bouncing around that included Moe Drabowsky, that was shown when he passed away last year.

  • Kim | May 30, 2007 at 9:06 am |

    Here’s the problem with the Celtic throwback:

    Celtic is one of those ‘classic’ teams that really haven’t done much with their shirts over the last century or so. And sponsorship is to a point where the team can’t even change the number font to match because the league likely has a standard sponsored number kit, and it seems unlikely that a sponsor (who’s forked over a ton of cash) would let the team have logo free shirts.

    The more interesting goalkeeper aspect is that back then goalkeepers could only wear solid yellow, red, or green shirts. Black was for officials.

  • Jeremy Brahm | May 30, 2007 at 9:09 am |

    [quote comment=”94755″]Maybe someone can explain this one to me…

    In the picture of the Argentinian volleyball team, there’s a player in the back row who wears #2. The 2 is underlined, just above the Visa logo, but it’s not underlined for player #12.

    Does the underline signify “Captain”?[/quote]

    Yes, that is correct, they use a line underneath the number to signify that player is the captain.

    It was funny going to the match between the US and France this weekend in Portland because neither team’s captains (the underlined people) played much and the coach had to signal to the head referee who would be the new captain on the court, because you are required to have a playing captain at all times.

  • Robert | May 30, 2007 at 9:10 am |

    [quote comment=”94744″]Like Alabama in the Ticker article, Oklahoma (OU) has released their Nike “Endline” series coaches shirts as well (with the football stitching on the collar); however, note that they have doomed us all and produced a BLACK version to go with the traditional Red and White (or Crimson and Cream to be really correct):

    Red

    White

    Black

    You will have to scroll down a bit on the pages to see the shirts.[/quote]

    Leaving aside that black is not an OU color, the shirt with the black on it is just plain ugly.

  • Jeremy Brahm | May 30, 2007 at 9:11 am |

    I just noticed that the Argentine flags on the players did not have a sun?

  • Clevo | May 30, 2007 at 9:19 am |

    [quote comment=”94761″]Here’s the problem with the Celtic throwback:

    Celtic is one of those ‘classic’ teams that really haven’t done much with their shirts over the last century or so. And sponsorship is to a point where the team can’t even change the number font to match because the league likely has a standard sponsored number kit, and it seems unlikely that a sponsor (who’s forked over a ton of cash) would let the team have logo free shirts.

    The more interesting goalkeeper aspect is that back then goalkeepers could only wear solid yellow, red, or green shirts. Black was for officials.[/quote]

    they could revert to the old number styling for cup/ non league matches.

  • Nick | May 30, 2007 at 9:19 am |

    It appears to me the Billy had a cross, not a crucifix on his hat. The latter of course, being a cross with Christ’s body on it.

  • Kim | May 30, 2007 at 9:24 am |

    [quote comment=”94768″][quote comment=”94761″]Here’s the problem with the Celtic throwback:

    Celtic is one of those ‘classic’ teams that really haven’t done much with their shirts over the last century or so. And sponsorship is to a point where the team can’t even change the number font to match because the league likely has a standard sponsored number kit, and it seems unlikely that a sponsor (who’s forked over a ton of cash) would let the team have logo free shirts.

    The more interesting goalkeeper aspect is that back then goalkeepers could only wear solid yellow, red, or green shirts. Black was for officials.[/quote]

    they could revert to the old number styling for cup/ non league matches.[/quote]

    Good thought. That would also be appropriate since it’s a European Cup winning team that they’re celebrating, so reverting to the old font for those matches would be a clever tribute.

  • Christopher | May 30, 2007 at 9:24 am |

    [quote comment=”94745″][quote comment=”94742″]I think Frank’s video of the Cubs-Expos game is from 1987. Didn’t Andre Dawson play in that game?[/quote]

    I believe it’s actually 1986. At one point the broadcaster mentions how the Expos are looking for big things from Galarraga “now that Hubie Brooks is gone.” Brooks played only 80 games in 1986, due to injury; Galarraga, meanwhile, was spending his first full season in the bigs.[/quote]

    Yeah, but if you look at the stats of the players, and comments to the tune of “off to a great start”… it can’t be anywhere near past game 80.

    Hubie must have played most/all of his games before the all star break- because he was an All Star.

    Brooks also seems to have played most of 1987 (112 games).

    MON played at CHI in Apr, June, Sept 1986.
    MON played at CHI in Apr, July, Sept 1987.

  • Eephus | May 30, 2007 at 9:31 am |

    I think Celtic’s kits aren’t supposed to be throwbacks, just commemoratives. It’s not referred to as a throwback in the press release. There’s simply a Lisbon Lions logo around the normal chest shield, like when American football teams wear anniversary patches.

  • BStu | May 30, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    I actually liked the black cap, blue rim when the Mets first introduced it. Still do, really, though I think it should never be paired with the pinstripes. But the all-black cap has never impressed me. Mostly because I noticed right away that it had a third cap logo which seemed absurd. I’m not even sure they needed a second. So many of their adaptations have undercut the orange in their color scheme and frankly the orange is the reason I became a Mets fan as a kid. It was my favorite color, so it set the Mets apart from the Yankees and Red Sox. I’m not saying its the best reason to root for a team, but I was a kid without a clear influence. I’m disappointed to see the orange minimized with drop shadows and outlines and drop shadows on outlines.

  • Brian from Short Island | May 30, 2007 at 9:38 am |

    [quote comment=”94770″][quote comment=”94768″][quote comment=”94761″]Here’s the problem with the Celtic throwback:

    Celtic is one of those ‘classic’ teams that really haven’t done much with their shirts over the last century or so. And sponsorship is to a point where the team can’t even change the number font to match because the league likely has a standard sponsored number kit, and it seems unlikely that a sponsor (who’s forked over a ton of cash) would let the team have logo free shirts.

    The more interesting goalkeeper aspect is that back then goalkeepers could only wear solid yellow, red, or green shirts. Black was for officials.[/quote]

    they could revert to the old number styling for cup/ non league matches.[/quote]

    Good thought. That would also be appropriate since it’s a European Cup winning team that they’re celebrating, so reverting to the old font for those matches would be a clever tribute.[/quote]
    A clever idea would be to wear that old font (on the shirts, however) for Champions League matches this year. The only problem is that Celtic is required to blank out the hoops on their backs for CL Matches.

  • Jerry | May 30, 2007 at 9:45 am |

    Paul,

    The Mets uniform situation is a complete disaster. The team is in desperate need of an official uniform czar. I would like to formally nominate you for that position.

    Since I am doing the favor of nominating you to such a prestigious and thoroughly non-existent position, I would like to make a few suggestions that I know you won’t mind:

    -Ditch the Black – No black hats, no black unis, no drop shadows, no black anywhere except for memorial patches!

    -Keep uniforms uniform – So one hat, one road jersey (which is a great jersey), and I’m OK with 2 home jerseys. The solid white home jersey is salvageable if they do something to make it interesting. I’ve got some ideas to photoshop.

    -Stirrups, or at least high socks.

    – The Mets have great logos, why not use them. I’ve got ideas.

  • Graf Zeppelin | May 30, 2007 at 9:46 am |

    The black/blue caps, unveiled in ’98, are just the ’97 white caps with a black crown. The logo on those caps, the white and the black, matched what was at the time the script on the Mets’ jerseys, i.e., blue outlined in orange, but when designing the black alternate jerseys for ’98 they probably found that the regular blue/orange script didn’t look good against a black background, or at least that the redesigned blue/white outline/orange drop-shadow script looked better. (Note also that the black jerseys in ’98 still had the original Mets’ blue skyline logo patch on the sleeve.) They wore the black/blue caps with the black jerseys in ’98, home and away, but the problem was that for absolutely no good reason, instead of replacing the plain white alternates with the black they kept them, added a black drop-shadow to the script, and as the season wore on started wearing the black caps with those as well (same for the road greys). The pinstripes still had the regular Mets script (no black drop-shadow) and were only worn with the blue caps.

    For ’99, since as Paul pointed out the logo on the two-tone caps didn’t match the script on the black jerseys, they designed a logo that did, hence the solid black caps (they also added the black “NEW YORK” jersey that year, and the redesigned black skyline logo patch). The pinstripes took on the black drop-shadow and started being worn, albeit rarely, with the two black caps, even more rarely with the blue.

    The point is that the black/blue cap and the plain white uniform both became completely unnecessary and expendable when the black jerseys and solid black caps were added, but not only did the Mets keep them, they wear them all the time.

    Paul is correct that there’s a reason this topic keeps coming up. It’s frustrating as both Mets fans and uni watchers to see that none of this makes any sense, and worse yet, after nine years, THE METS STILL DON’T GET IT and we can’t seem to do anything about it. Not even the “Ditch the Black” campaign helped; the Mets are wearing blue caps less often this year than they did last year.

  • Shaftman | May 30, 2007 at 9:53 am |

    I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it over and over till Wilpon “gets it”

    Home Games:
    M-Sat: Pin Stripe uni’s with blue caps, blue undershirts, and blue socks.

    Sun: Snow White uni’s with blue caps, blue undershirts, and blue socks.

    Road Games:
    Grey uni’s with Black/Blue caps, black undershirts and black socks.

    I’m not in love with the black but I can live with it as part of the road setup (as a highlight color, not the jersey color.) This solution is kind of meeting in the middle but should make everyone happy enough.

  • Jeremy | May 30, 2007 at 9:55 am |

    While this is all nice and dandy, the fact is that those of us who are not Mets fans are fucking sick of all the Mets talk on this website. The uniforms that they wear from night to night are not that bad. So they have black jerseys? who cares? I understand that this is a uniform website, but we know how people feel about the black Uni’s, we know how people feel about the Mets, it’s time to just shut the fuck up already.

  • Joey Guns | May 30, 2007 at 9:59 am |

    The Cubs/Expos game was from 4/17/87.

    http://www.baseball-...

    Gotta love the internet.

  • Brad | May 30, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment=”94764″]I just noticed that the Argentine flags on the players did not have a sun?[/quote]

    I’m not 100% sure about Argentina, but several South American countries have civilian and government flags. The government flags usually have some kind of symbol in the middle which is omitted on the civilian flags. It is usually against the law to fly the government flag outside of government buildings, etc.

  • David | May 30, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”94783″]While this is all nice and dandy, the fact is that those of us who are not Mets fans are fucking sick of all the Mets talk on this website. The uniforms that they wear from night to night are not that bad. So they have black jerseys? who cares? I understand that this is a uniform website, but we know how people feel about the black Uni’s, we know how people feel about the Mets, it’s time to just shut the fuck up already.[/quote]

    If you are fucking sick of it, just fucking stop reading.

  • Marty Met | May 30, 2007 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment=”94783″]While this is all nice and dandy, the fact is that those of us who are not Mets fans are fucking sick of all the Mets talk on this website. The uniforms that they wear from night to night are not that bad. So they have black jerseys? who cares? I understand that this is a uniform website, but we know how people feel about the black Uni’s, we know how people feel about the Mets, it’s time to just shut the fuck up already.[/quote]Must be a Yankee fan in a bad mood from being 14 games out.

  • BCrisp | May 30, 2007 at 10:05 am |

    Last night in the top of the first inning (I think) Astros catcher Brad Ausmus had to remove his belt and throw it into the dugout. I heard this on the radio while driving, so I didn’t see it. Did anyone see this last night?

  • Joe Drennan | May 30, 2007 at 10:05 am |

    I say give the guy a break. It’s gotta be hard to find something to write about every day of the week when you can write about anything, but Paul is narrowing that scope down to something specific, very specific, so if he fills voids of what to talk about with what he knows best, his Mets, so be it. It’s better than having to look at those ugly D-backs jerseys every day.

  • Joey Guns | May 30, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”94787″][quote comment=”94783″]While this is all nice and dandy, the fact is that those of us who are not Mets fans are fucking sick of all the Mets talk on this website. The uniforms that they wear from night to night are not that bad. So they have black jerseys? who cares? I understand that this is a uniform website, but we know how people feel about the black Uni’s, we know how people feel about the Mets, it’s time to just shut the fuck up already.[/quote]Must be a Yankee fan in a bad mood from being 14 games out.[/quote]

    14.5 haha at least they’re still tied with the devil rays for last.

  • Stuby | May 30, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”94736″]Paul, you could of at least said something nice about the Giants uni’s. I mean, the Mets are supposed to be half Giants and half Dodgers right? Sorry the Giants gave you the black part, but at least the Giants uniforms look nice.[/quote]
    Armando Benitez in any uniform looks like shit.

  • Joe Drennan | May 30, 2007 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”94792″][quote comment=”94736″]Paul, you could of at least said something nice about the Giants uni’s. I mean, the Mets are supposed to be half Giants and half Dodgers right? Sorry the Giants gave you the black part, but at least the Giants uniforms look nice.[/quote]
    Armando Benitez in any uniform looks like shit.[/quote]
    At least his name is fun to say though.

  • Shaftman | May 30, 2007 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”94783″]While this is all nice and dandy, the fact is that those of us who are not Mets fans are fucking sick of all the Mets talk on this website. The uniforms that they wear from night to night are not that bad. So they have black jerseys? who cares? I understand that this is a uniform website, but we know how people feel about the black Uni’s, we know how people feel about the Mets, it’s time to just shut the fuck up already.[/quote]

    You know…I don’t like soccer. Never have and never will, I couldn’t care less about their kits or what they look like. However this is a site dedicated to all uniforms and the aesthetics of them. When people talk about soccer or rugby or other things I don’t care about I simply don’t read it.

    It’s like when there is a program on TV and I don’t like it…I change the channel.

    So, you have three options:
    1) Go to a different site (bad option),
    2) Don’t read the comments about the mets (bad option),
    3) Start a discussion on what you would like to talk about (Ding ding ding…we have a winner.).

  • mg12 | May 30, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    Quick re-post from late yesterday. Todd McFarlane issued a new Wayne Gretzky figure from the 1996 Blues season where he played 31 games. Uniform cameo and oddity in one.

    http://www.spawn.com...

  • Matt D. | May 30, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    The white Sox Shorts pics still make me cringe. Looking at the wide 70’s lapel (What the !@#$%^&* is a LAPEL doing on a modern baseball uniform!?!?!?) reminds me of the old Cheap Seats line – “That year, the White Sox uniform came with a matching sportcoat”

  • DenverGregg | May 30, 2007 at 10:24 am |

    Yesterday’s comments had a lot about the two-tone Cool Flow helmets. I think the Rox and Mets use them because they each have two different colored hats and the two-tone Cool Flow could be viewed as something that would work with either.

    That being said, I don’t like the two-tone on the Cool Flow; I’m not sold on the Cool Flow look in general; I think the Mets ought to ditch the black (suggestion above for a Mets uni schedule was a good one); and the Rox ought to change their colors to the Colorado Springs Sky Sox (AAA affiliate) colors of Forest Green and Silver.

    The Joe Morgan and ballgirl pic was great for many reasons. While the ballgirl was the best reason, the stirrups were perfect all ’round.

  • Brendan | May 30, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    I generally enjoy the discussions on here but I do find my eyes glaze over when the anti-black discussion appears in full force. It’s not that I disagree, I absolutely detest the trend toward black where it does not belong, it’s just that it is a lot listening my father-in-law tell the same story over and over.

  • Marcus Ramsey | May 30, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”94798″][quote comment=”94792″][quote comment=”94736″]Paul, you could of at least said something nice about the Giants uni’s. I mean, the Mets are supposed to be half Giants and half Dodgers right? Sorry the Giants gave you the black part, but at least the Giants uniforms look nice.[/quote]
    Armando Benitez in any uniform looks like shit.[/quote]
    At least his name is fun to say though.[/quote]

    Not if you’re a Giant fan. 4.66 ERA and he’s the closer? The worst part is our starters are pretty solid, Zito, Morris, Cain, and Lowry. All good pitchers and our new kid Lincecum, leading up to Benitez? TWO BALKS? Some guys so all season without ONE and he gets two in one game.

  • Matt D. | May 30, 2007 at 10:33 am |

    Maybe it’s my bitter anti-Yankeeness, but I’m not one to complain about the Mets uniform issues (and they do have issues). Those who want to come in and drop f-bombs over the issue of the day badly need to get a grip on reality. Issues close to home are fine. Remember, the blogger is from Brooklyn (Queens? sorry if I goof it up ,Paul).
    I wil say, though, it would be nice if the Met’s uniforms were, well, UNIFORM.

  • Colin | May 30, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    On the Bill Murray clip
    :22″And looking at Eric, I would say this is a guy that butters his bread on both sides”
    2:18″Who’s this stiff coming up to back”
    Those are two hilarious quotes, they didn’t even need to play the game that day to make it great.

  • Ryan B. | May 30, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”94736″]Paul, you could of at least said something nice about the Giants uni’s. I mean, the Mets are supposed to be half Giants and half Dodgers right? Sorry the Giants gave you the black part, but at least the Giants uniforms look nice.[/quote]

    Sorry, but the Mets did not inherit the color black from the old New York Giants. They took the old “NY” cap insignia and the color orange from the Giants. That’s it. The blue is from the Dodgers and the pinstripes honor the Yankees.

    Black came about in 1997 to sell merchandise, not to honor the Giants’ history or baseball in any way.

  • Stuby | May 30, 2007 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”94806″][quote comment=”94798″][quote comment=”94792″][quote comment=”94736″]Paul, you could of at least said something nice about the Giants uni’s. I mean, the Mets are supposed to be half Giants and half Dodgers right? Sorry the Giants gave you the black part, but at least the Giants uniforms look nice.[/quote]
    Armando Benitez in any uniform looks like shit.[/quote]
    At least his name is fun to say though.[/quote]

    Not if you’re a Giant fan. 4.66 ERA and he’s the closer? The worst part is our starters are pretty solid, Zito, Morris, Cain, and Lowry. All good pitchers and our new kid Lincecum, leading up to Benitez? TWO BALKS? Some guys so all season without ONE and he gets two in one game.[/quote]
    Just remember: Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano and Boof Bonser for AJ Pierzynski. I don’t think the Giants ever even tried Nathan in the Closer role. That hurts.

  • Mark in Shiga | May 30, 2007 at 10:42 am |
  • BCrisp | May 30, 2007 at 10:47 am |

    From the Astros Mailbag:
    Is there a rhyme or reason to the frequent Astros wardrobe changes? They seem to be wearing the red “softball” jerseys all the time on the road these days, and never the classic road gray. Is there a reason? Those red jerseys aren’t too classy. Save them for batting practice and Spring Training.
    — Carter, Los Angeles

    The Astros wear the red jerseys on the road for two reasons — the material is lighter and therefore more comfortable during the hot summer months, and McLane likes them.

  • Paul Lukas | May 30, 2007 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”94805″]I generally enjoy the discussions on here but I do find my eyes glaze over when the anti-black discussion appears in full force.[/quote]

    For the record: Today’s post has nothing to do with black (or the ditching thereof) per se. It’s about a confused cap logo situation and a genuine manufacturer’s glitch at the major league level.

    I’m gonna be away from the computer for most of the rest of the day — let’s please keep things civil while I’m gone, yes? Yes.

  • todd krevanchi | May 30, 2007 at 10:47 am |

    some merchandise items…
    now the teams are going global…
    at least a few are anyway…
    franchise country flag hats
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    on my niketalk.com website, the nike corporate watchdogs have often used our membership as a free focus group for items to “retro”. in a cheap attempt to do the same, here is my request to twins enterprises…
    see what you did here?
    http://shop.mlb.com/...
    with this logo and year?
    http://moonlightgrah...

    do the same in a solid red franchise
    with this logo and include the original year!
    http://farm1.static....

    PLEASE?

    also, although i am not a part of the faction (for or against) for the mets, cleveland area teams, or japanese baseball, all of whom many would say are over covered here (i like many simply pass over it), i did find this little nugget from last year…
    im not sure that this was posted, so i’ll post it now…
    http://www.angelfire...

  • Mitch | May 30, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    Here’s a photo of the Cardinals’ Low A team (Swing of the Quad Cities) who rock the stirrups as a team. However it looks like Brad Furnish may have missed the loop when putting his on…

  • Mitch | May 30, 2007 at 10:54 am |

  • Mitch | May 30, 2007 at 10:55 am |

    ok…. that link thing isnt working so here it is

    http://www.flickr.co...

  • Joe Drennan | May 30, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    Speaking of black that doesn’t belong, how about the Blackhawks 3rd jersey? This one makes sence though as black has always been an accent color for the Blackhawks, and the word black is in their names, but when you have what is annualy voted as the best looking jersey in pro sports in different forums with their home reds and road whites, why go with a black alternate? I know it was to sell more jerseys, heck I have one, but it doesn’t belong there. Unlike the black Mets jerseys though, the black Hawks jersey looks sharp none the less. I guess I would have prefered the Hawks go the rout of the Habs or the Bruins and have their alternate as a throwback.

    I do like that more NHL teams are going throwback for alternates, I just wonder how that’ll be affected by the redesign. I’ve heard no team will have an alternate next year as it’s too much to ask RBK to design an alternate when they’re alreay redesigning all jerseys. Some don’t need to be redesigned though (Habs, Hawks, Wings, Rangers, Bruins, Leafs).

  • Matt D. | May 30, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”94806″][quote comment=”94798″][quote comment=”94792″][quote comment=”94736″]Paul, you could of at least said something nice about the Giants uni’s. I mean, the Mets are supposed to be half Giants and half Dodgers right? Sorry the Giants gave you the black part, but at least the Giants uniforms look nice.[/quote]
    Armando Benitez in any uniform looks like shit.[/quote]
    At least his name is fun to say though.[/quote]

    Not if you’re a Giant fan. 4.66 ERA and he’s the closer? The worst part is our starters are pretty solid, Zito, Morris, Cain, and Lowry. All good pitchers and our new kid Lincecum, leading up to Benitez? TWO BALKS? Some guys so all season without ONE and he gets two in one game.[/quote]

    Try 2 balks in ONE INNING.
    Now you know how it felt to be a Mets fan in the 2000 World Series and after. When Benietez would enter a game, you could feel your heart drop and know something bad was about to happen. I remember screaming at the TV during a subway series gae that he blew in 2002, “THROW A !@#$%^&* STRIKE, YOU@#$%^&*!!R... Yes, throwing a baseball close to 100mph is a talent, but you need mental fortitude to be a closer. 7 years after proving that he doesn’t have it (possibly 11 thanks to Jeffrey Maier?), a major leagur team is still trusting him to close games?!? unbelieveable. Even Byung-Hung Kim is only allowed to start.

  • Alex | May 30, 2007 at 11:01 am |

    not sure if anyone else noticed but something was up with Derek Turnbow’s undershirt last night. it was completely baggy around the neck, like he had stretched the neck WAY out…

    sorry, no pic

  • Jeremy | May 30, 2007 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”94791″][quote comment=”94787″][quote comment=”94783″]While this is all nice and dandy, the fact is that those of us who are not Mets fans are fucking sick of all the Mets talk on this website. The uniforms that they wear from night to night are not that bad. So they have black jerseys? who cares? I understand that this is a uniform website, but we know how people feel about the black Uni’s, we know how people feel about the Mets, it’s time to just shut the fuck up already.[/quote]Must be a Yankee fan in a bad mood from being 14 games out.[/quote]

    14.5 haha

    at least they’re still tied with the devil rays for last.[/quote]
    Being a Yankee fan has nothing to do with it, and for the record, 2 f-bombs isnt dropping f-bombs all over the place. In fact, I like watching the mets, go to many of their games and wasn’t bashing the post of the day at all. It was the fact that one mention of the mets, whether it has to do with black or not starts a day-long debate about ditching the black. Get over it, they are a major league team and can do whatever they want. When’s the last time a fan petition led to the changing of a uniform? Which brings up another point. Has there ever been an official petition to Ditch the Black? Why not draw something up, have everyone who wants to sign it, and then send it to the team. If nothing else, it may gain recognition for the site. The fact is that I love this website, and have been reading since day one. I was simply voicing my frustration with the constant complaining about the Mets.

  • Larry C | May 30, 2007 at 11:06 am |

    The Anaheim Ducks need to start using more orange in their outfits. This occurred to me when I last saw the Anaheim-Red Wings game last week. The fans had some orange hats and were waving orange flags and the total effect was that they looked more Duck-like than the team on the ice. Plus the Orange ties nicely into the local area (Orange County). I have this weird vision that one day … one day the fans will be sporting goofy foam hats shaped like oranges, much like the NHL version of the Green Bay Packer cheeseheads. There is just so much potential for using orange with the Ducks.

    It just bothers me that the current Duck jersey looks like it was slapped together at the last minute, as if the owners had a cool new name for the franchise in mind after they bought it, but the fans strongly insisted that they keep the Ducks name. It also bothers me, and it should bother the Anaheim fans, that they might win the Stanley Cup with such a “blah” outfit. Then again, the prospect of the (Mighty) Ducks winning the cup a couple of years ago in the Disney-brand outfits sent major chills down the spines of the hockey fans (in the Seattle area, anyway), so I suppose there’s much to be grateful about. But man, there could’ve been something really great here.

  • Perry | May 30, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    Check out this killer shot of young Tony LaRussa in green and gold Kansas City A’s togs, complete with enormous white sleeve numbers, ca. 1963-4.

    http://sportsillustr...

  • Joe Drennan | May 30, 2007 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”94835″]The Anaheim Ducks need to start using more orange in their outfits. This occurred to me when I last saw the Anaheim-Red Wings game last week. The fans had some orange hats and were waving orange flags and the total effect was that they looked more Duck-like than the team on the ice. Plus the Orange ties nicely into the local area (Orange County). I have this weird vision that one day … one day the fans will be sporting goofy foam hats shaped like oranges, much like the NHL version of the Green Bay Packer cheeseheads. There is just so much potential for using orange with the Ducks.

    It just bothers me that the current Duck jersey looks like it was slapped together at the last minute, as if the owners had a cool new name for the franchise in mind after they bought it, but the fans strongly insisted that they keep the Ducks name. It also bothers me, and it should bother the Anaheim fans, that they might win the Stanley Cup with such a “blah” outfit. Then again, the prospect of the (Mighty) Ducks winning the cup a couple of years ago in the Disney-brand outfits sent major chills down the spines of the hockey fans (in the Seattle area, anyway), so I suppose there’s much to be grateful about. But man, there could’ve been something really great here.[/quote]

    While I never like the name Mighty Ducks, I did like the logo. I think the old Ducks logo in the updated colors on the updated jersey would look sharp. I guess I just like when hockey logos find a way tin incorperate sticks or other pieces of equipment like a goalie mask to fit a duck.

  • Stuby | May 30, 2007 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”94820″][quote comment=”94805″]I generally enjoy the discussions on here but I do find my eyes glaze over when the anti-black discussion appears in full force.[/quote]

    For the record: Today’s post has nothing to do with black (or the ditching thereof) per se. It’s about a confused cap logo situation and a genuine manufacturer’s glitch at the major league level.

    I’m gonna be away from the computer for most of the rest of the day — let’s please keep things civil while I’m gone, yes? Yes.[/quote]
    We’ll play nice.

  • David | May 30, 2007 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”94833″]I was simply voicing my frustration with the constant complaining about the Mets.[/quote]

    You consider telling Paul to “shut the fuck up” to be simply voicing your frustration? Sounds pretty rude to me.

  • Kerry | May 30, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”94783″]While this is all nice and dandy, the fact is that those of us who are not Mets fans are fucking sick of all the Mets talk on this website. The uniforms that they wear from night to night are not that bad. So they have black jerseys? who cares? I understand that this is a uniform website, but we know how people feel about the black Uni’s, we know how people feel about the Mets, it’s time to just shut the fuck up already.[/quote]
    Paul,

    Just FYI. I’m a Cubs fan down in South Louisiana…and I COMPLETELY agree about the Mets and understand your disgust with the situation.

    And, even though many of the topics that YOU yourself discuss in YOUR daily blog postings, we get a daily dose of many things non-Mets through the comments section.

    So keep up the good work and to hell with other people that tell you how to write YOUR blog.

  • Mr. Met | May 30, 2007 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”94826″][quote comment=”94806″][quote comment=”94798″][quote comment=”94792″][quote comment=”94736″]Paul, you could of at least said something nice about the Giants uni’s. I mean, the Mets are supposed to be half Giants and half Dodgers right? Sorry the Giants gave you the black part, but at least the Giants uniforms look nice.[/quote]
    Armando Benitez in any uniform looks like shit.[/quote]
    At least his name is fun to say though.[/quote]

    Not if you’re a Giant fan. 4.66 ERA and he’s the closer? The worst part is our starters are pretty solid, Zito, Morris, Cain, and Lowry. All good pitchers and our new kid Lincecum, leading up to Benitez? TWO BALKS? Some guys so all season without ONE and he gets two in one game.[/quote]

    Try 2 balks in ONE INNING.
    Now you know how it felt to be a Mets fan in the 2000 World Series and after. When Benietez would enter a game, you could feel your heart drop and know something bad was about to happen. I remember screaming at the TV during a subway series gae that he blew in 2002, “THROW A !@#$%^&* STRIKE, YOU@#$%^&*!!R... Yes, throwing a baseball close to 100mph is a talent, but you need mental fortitude to be a closer. 7 years after proving that he doesn’t have it (possibly 11 thanks to Jeffrey Maier?), a major leagur team is still trusting him to close games?!? unbelieveable. Even Byung-Hung Kim is only allowed to start.[/quote]

    You gotta love how so many announcers point out his stats, like how many saves he has or how low batters are hitting against him (they mentioned second lowest in the league last night, I think), like they’re in awe of the fact that a guy with stuff like his has been on so many teams and can’t catch on as a closer.

    The truth is that Armando Benitez has some of the most emptiest saves in the history of the sport, because every time, every time he was brought into a pressure siatuation, he folded like a cheap deck of cards. He would have 30+ saves by August, then always blow 2-3 saves against the Braves in September when the Mets needed a win in the worst way.

    And long-suffering Mets fans will not soon forget the disaster that followed in Braden Looper, or as I liked to call him, Armando Looper. If anyone can believe it, he was actually worse than Benitez. Fortunately, Willie Randolph realized that Looper was not going to cut it as a closer you could rely on in a pressure cooker, and got rid of him after one season on his watch. Unlike Bobby Valentine, who stuck with Benitez through his failures year after year after year.

    Two guys who just couldn’t deal with pressure situations.

  • Shaftman | May 30, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”94836″]Check out this killer shot of young Tony LaRussa in green and gold Kansas City A’s togs, complete with enormous white sleeve numbers, ca. 1963-4.

    http://sportsillustr...

    Not to nitpick but they were “officially” know as the Athletics and the uniform, even though it’s hard to see, mearly had an “A” and not the “A’s” that we are currently used to now.

  • Jerry | May 30, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    So I tried my hand at creating a new mets home ALTERNATE jersey which should be worn only for Sunday home games. I would also go nameless on the back, but I didn’t photoshop that.

    I followed a few basic principles to create this:

    – The alternate jersey should be distinguishable from the normal jersey. This is just this minus the pinstripes and plus blue piping.

    – I like Mr. Met.

    – I really like the classic look of the Tigers, Yankees, Reds, and White Sox.

    The jersey might look better with no numbers on the front. I haven’t made up my mind on that yet. In my mind it’s certainly an improvement over the current state of affairs.

  • Shaftman | May 30, 2007 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”94848″]So I tried my hand at creating a new mets home ALTERNATE jersey which should be worn only for Sunday home games. I would also go nameless on the back, but I didn’t photoshop that.

    I followed a few basic principles to create this:

    – The alternate jersey should be distinguishable from the normal jersey. This is just this minus the pinstripes and plus blue piping.

    – I like Mr. Met.

    – I really like the classic look of the Tigers, Yankees, Reds, and White Sox.

    The jersey might look better with no numbers on the front. I haven’t made up my mind on that yet. In my mind it’s certainly an improvement over the current state of affairs.[/quote]

    Very nice…what if we even took it a step further and made it the same off white that the Giants wear at home?

  • Anthony Verna | May 30, 2007 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”94848″]So I tried my hand at creating a new mets home ALTERNATE jersey which should be worn only for Sunday home games. I would also go nameless on the back, but I didn’t photoshop that.

    I followed a few basic principles to create this:

    – The alternate jersey should be distinguishable from the normal jersey. This is just this minus the pinstripes and plus blue piping.

    – I like Mr. Met.

    – I really like the classic look of the Tigers, Yankees, Reds, and White Sox.

    The jersey might look better with no numbers on the front. I haven’t made up my mind on that yet. In my mind it’s certainly an improvement over the current state of affairs.[/quote]

    I must admit that I like it greatly!

  • Brendan | May 30, 2007 at 11:34 am |

    I generally enjoy the discussions on here but I do find my eyes glaze over when the anti-black discussion appears in full force.

    For the record: Today’s post has nothing to do with black (or the ditching thereof) per se. It’s about a confused cap logo situation and a genuine manufacturer’s glitch at the major league level.

    I do understand the nature of the post; what I referred to was the way the discussion that derives from the daily post has a tendency to become repetitively and reflexively anti-black, anti-Nike, or anti-purple. I myself happen to be generally anti-each of those colours and apathetic about Nike but I was simply pointing out an irritant of mine.

    On the positive side here is a sweet photo of the Junction City (OR) Reds http://www.registerg...

    This happens to be the hometown of Hall of Famer Bobby Doerr though I don’t know if he had anything to do with them.

  • schuby | May 30, 2007 at 11:36 am |

    OK, does anyone know why my post was eaten, but when i tried to post it again it said it was a duplicate. I had a nice rant, but it hasn’t shown up.

  • James P. | May 30, 2007 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”94789″]Last night in the top of the first inning (I think) Astros catcher Brad Ausmus had to remove his belt and throw it into the dugout. I heard this on the radio while driving, so I didn’t see it. Did anyone see this last night?[/quote]

    a search of the web has no mention of this. you should e-mail allison footer–beat writer for MLB with the Astros–and ask her to look into it.

  • Joey Guns | May 30, 2007 at 11:36 am |

    [quote comment=”94845″][quote comment=”94826″][quote comment=”94806″][quote comment=”94798″][quote comment=”94792″][quote comment=”94736″]Paul, you could of at least said something nice about the Giants uni’s. I mean, the Mets are supposed to be half Giants and half Dodgers right? Sorry the Giants gave you the black part, but at least the Giants uniforms look nice.[/quote]
    Armando Benitez in any uniform looks like shit.[/quote]
    At least his name is fun to say though.[/quote]

    Not if you’re a Giant fan. 4.66 ERA and he’s the closer? The worst part is our starters are pretty solid, Zito, Morris, Cain, and Lowry. All good pitchers and our new kid Lincecum, leading up to Benitez? TWO BALKS? Some guys so all season without ONE and he gets two in one game.[/quote]

    Try 2 balks in ONE INNING.
    Now you know how it felt to be a Mets fan in the 2000 World Series and after. When Benietez would enter a game, you could feel your heart drop and know something bad was about to happen. I remember screaming at the TV during a subway series gae that he blew in 2002, “THROW A !@#$%^&* STRIKE, YOU@#$%^&*!!R... Yes, throwing a baseball close to 100mph is a talent, but you need mental fortitude to be a closer. 7 years after proving that he doesn’t have it (possibly 11 thanks to Jeffrey Maier?), a major leagur team is still trusting him to close games?!? unbelieveable. Even Byung-Hung Kim is only allowed to start.[/quote]

    You gotta love how so many announcers point out his stats, like how many saves he has or how low batters are hitting against him (they mentioned second lowest in the league last night, I think), like they’re in awe of the fact that a guy with stuff like his has been on so many teams and can’t catch on as a closer.

    The truth is that Armando Benitez has some of the most emptiest saves in the history of the sport, because every time, every time he was brought into a pressure siatuation, he folded like a cheap deck of cards. He would have 30+ saves by August, then always blow 2-3 saves against the Braves in September when the Mets needed a win in the worst way.

    And long-suffering Mets fans will not soon forget the disaster that followed in Braden Looper, or as I liked to call him, Armando Looper. If anyone can believe it, he was actually worse than Benitez. Fortunately, Willie Randolph realized that Looper was not going to cut it as a closer you could rely on in a pressure cooker, and got rid of him after one season on his watch. Unlike Bobby Valentine, who stuck with Benitez through his failures year after year after year.

    Two guys who just couldn’t deal with pressure situations.[/quote]

    How funny was it when the Yankees gave old Armando a shot a few years back? That experiment lasted about a week…….

  • Amy | May 30, 2007 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”94848″]So I tried my hand at creating a new mets home ALTERNATE jersey which should be worn only for Sunday home games. I would also go nameless on the back, but I didn’t photoshop that.

    I followed a few basic principles to create this:

    – The alternate jersey should be distinguishable from the normal jersey. This is just this minus the pinstripes and plus blue piping.

    – I like Mr. Met.

    – I really like the classic look of the Tigers, Yankees, Reds, and White Sox.

    The jersey might look better with no numbers on the front. I haven’t made up my mind on that yet. In my mind it’s certainly an improvement over the current state of affairs.[/quote]

    Nice Job, I like it too.

  • WVU Tom | May 30, 2007 at 11:38 am |

    Not good news for those of eagerly anticipating the return of “Baltimore” on the O’s away jerseys. I don’t know how much of this is BS, or even what to believe for that matter, but it sounds like the Orioles did consider the change, but are probably not (at least not this year) going to move forward with it. If that is the case…BOO!

    Much like Paul’s disgust over the Met’s uni situation, many of us O’s fans have been wanting to see this change for decades–I’ve even seen people with petitions outside the Yard asking for signates. I don’t want to put words in mouth of Paul or anyone else on this site, but for me the most frustrating thing is the question of “how can those that have the power to make these decisions make such stupid ones, totally disrarding the wishes of the fans!?!?”

  • TBDRO | May 30, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”94791″][quote comment=”94787″][quote comment=”94783″]While this is all nice and dandy, the fact is that those of us who are not Mets fans are fucking sick of all the Mets talk on this website. The uniforms that they wear from night to night are not that bad. So they have black jerseys? who cares? I understand that this is a uniform website, but we know how people feel about the black Uni’s, we know how people feel about the Mets, it’s time to just shut the fuck up already.[/quote]Must be a Yankee fan in a bad mood from being 14 games out.[/quote]

    14.5 haha

    at least they’re still tied with the devil rays for last.[/quote]
    But, the Rays own the season series so far 3-1… putting the Yankees at the bottom of the standings.

  • Pflava | May 30, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    I’m not a fan of the Mets in the least, but I think they deserve to be discussed here just about every day for how badly they’ve screwed up a beautiful uniform set. I can’t think of another team that has crapped all over a classic set quite like they have done.

  • WVU Tom | May 30, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    RE: Comment #76

    In case you don’t see it–scroll down on the link for the full story.

  • Jaye | May 30, 2007 at 11:43 am |

    Armando Benitez didn’t balk that last time. That was the wind blowing those huge pant legs. If he’d gone tighter, it wouldn’t have happened.

  • Colin | May 30, 2007 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”94815″][quote comment=”94806″][quote comment=”94798″][quote comment=”94792″][quote comment=”94736″]Paul, you could of at least said something nice about the Giants uni’s. I mean, the Mets are supposed to be half Giants and half Dodgers right? Sorry the Giants gave you the black part, but at least the Giants uniforms look nice.[/quote]
    Armando Benitez in any uniform looks like shit.[/quote]
    At least his name is fun to say though.[/quote]

    Not if you’re a Giant fan. 4.66 ERA and he’s the closer? The worst part is our starters are pretty solid, Zito, Morris, Cain, and Lowry. All good pitchers and our new kid Lincecum, leading up to Benitez? TWO BALKS? Some guys so all season without ONE and he gets two in one game.[/quote]
    Just remember: Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano and Boof Bonser for AJ Pierzynski. I don’t think the Giants ever even tried Nathan in the Closer role. That hurts.[/quote]
    As my friends will tell you, I’m a twins hater mainly for the fairweather twin city fans. I worked there in the summer of 2002 and at the beginning of the season those games were empty. Why they started winning, it was terrible seeing all these “hardcore fans”. My question is why are Bonser and Liriano always mentioned in that trade? Liriano is gonna be a Kerry Wood (talent beyond belief, but always hurt) and Bonser is marginal at best.

  • goofy119 | May 30, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    Long time reader, 1st time poster….
    When did MLB uniforms loose their color?
    I was going through the NATIONAL BASEBALL HALL OF FAME web site for Uniforms
    http://www.baseballh...
    and I noticed how all teams home or away used to have colorful uniforms, what happened? Today’s uniforms all look cookie cutter white home, black/gray away. In this modem era of high def televisions shouldn’t teams go away from the white/black attitude and bring back the color?
    I understand most teams have 3rd/Sunday colorful uniforms but they are only used for special days or every once in a while to change the pace.
    With all of the modern marketing companies and artists in the world, couldn’t MLB come up with different colors for each team. As pointed out on this web site look at Arizona and Houston for example, they are the same uniform style and colors. This is 2007 for crying out loud!!! Back in the 1900’s each team had a different look, and MLB needs that different look back.
    I recommend MLB hire a “Chief of Uniforms/Logos” (a little simualr to what the NBA has) This person would make sure that each team would have a different look/colors from one another. Set rules for how many teams can wear pinstripes or go sleeveless or wear black.
    MLB, bring back the color, please, gray/black is killing me and the league look.

  • Joey Guns | May 30, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    I just saw this on deadspin. Some guy had Mr. Met come to his birthday party.

    http://www.paultambu...

    Mr. Met was wearing a hat that even the Mets don’t wear!

    http://www.paultambu...

    At least in this pic, taken at Fenway Park last year, he’s wearing a hat that they do wear…….

    http://graphics.bost...

  • Stuby | May 30, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”94858″]I’m not a fan of the Mets in the least, but I think they deserve to be discussed here just about every day for how badly they’ve screwed up a beautiful uniform set. I can’t think of another team that has crapped all over a classic set quite like they have done.[/quote]
    I can

  • Jeremy | May 30, 2007 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”94840″][quote comment=”94833″]I was simply voicing my frustration with the constant complaining about the Mets.[/quote]

    You consider telling Paul to “shut the fuck up” to be simply voicing your frustration? Sounds pretty rude to me.[/quote]
    Had you read my post, you would have seen that my initial comment wasn’t directed towards Paul.

  • Paul P. | May 30, 2007 at 11:51 am |

    Also, those 1960 Celtic uniforms did not have numbers on the back. Celtic wore their uniform numbers on their shorts up until the 90s. However, I am not sure if they wore numbers in Europe.

    Let’s throw out this possibility. What if Celtic were to play a match in France, where alcohol advertising is banned. Then, they wouldn’t have to wear their Carling advert or the SPL numbering

  • Marty Met | May 30, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”94865″]I just saw this on deadspin.

    Some guy had Mr. Met come to his birthday party.

    http://www.paultambu...

    Mr. Met was wearing a hat that even the Mets don’t wear!

    http://www.paultambu...

    At least in this pic, taken at Fenway Park last year, he’s wearing a hat that they do wear…….

    http://graphics.bost...Mr. met is wearing an old BP hat from 2005 0r 2006.

  • Stuby | May 30, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”94858″]I’m not a fan of the Mets in the least, but I think they deserve to be discussed here just about every day for how badly they’ve screwed up a beautiful uniform set. I can’t think of another team that has crapped all over a classic set quite like they have done.[/quote]
    They’ve screwed up a classic here

  • bx- | May 30, 2007 at 12:01 pm |

    Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but the Cubs’ Jason Marquis doesn’t use a “Q” in his last name on his jersey, but instead an “O”. I can’t seem to dig up any photos from last night, but I was able to pause the TiVo and take a pretty close look, and it doesn’t really look like there’s anything at all coming off the “O” like there was in StL.

  • todd krevanchi | May 30, 2007 at 12:02 pm |

    please tell me that im not the only one who when hearing the name,
    Derek Turnbow
    i think
    Chief Jay Turnbow

  • schuby | May 30, 2007 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”94790″]I say give the guy a break. It’s gotta be hard to find something to write about every day of the week when you can write about anything, but Paul is narrowing that scope down to something specific, very specific, so if he fills voids of what to talk about with what he knows best, his Mets, so be it. It’s better than having to look at those ugly D-backs jerseys every day.[/quote]

    Ok, so you hate it when somebody rips on your precious Mets, but you can still rip on the D-backs whenever you want?? That’s pretty stupid if you ask me. But seriously, would you rather want to see the Mets in all black, or the Dbacks unis. I know this for a fact, that the D-backs unis are way better. They’re also a lot better than people give them credit for. They can even pull off a black uni better than the Mets. The only problem is that the A sometimes doesn’t line up correctly. The only time that happens is when someone is running and the air makes the jersey go funny, or when the player doesn’t button up his top two buttons, i.e. Micah Owings. Which brings me to this, which I have mentioned before.

    I know that we all love to hate on the D-backs here, so, i believe we should have a little contest. Let’s play a game called “See If You Can Design A Better Diamondbacks Uniform”. I would love to see what would people will come up with. Maybe they actually will be better than the current ones.

  • Mark in Shiga | May 30, 2007 at 12:10 pm |

    Goofy, while I agree with you about colors being better than dull gray, this question:

    couldn’t MLB come up with different colors for each team

    ..is pretty disturbing. Why should the league decide what colors the individual teams wear? I could easily imagine Selig taking that power for himself; don’t put any ideas in their heads!

  • Joe Drennan | May 30, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”94880″][quote comment=”94790″]I say give the guy a break. It’s gotta be hard to find something to write about every day of the week when you can write about anything, but Paul is narrowing that scope down to something specific, very specific, so if he fills voids of what to talk about with what he knows best, his Mets, so be it. It’s better than having to look at those ugly D-backs jerseys every day.[/quote]

    Ok, so you hate it when somebody rips on your precious Mets, but you can still rip on the D-backs whenever you want?? That’s pretty stupid if you ask me. But seriously, would you rather want to see the Mets in all black, or the Dbacks unis. I know this for a fact, that the D-backs unis are way better. They’re also a lot better than people give them credit for. They can even pull off a black uni better than the Mets. The only problem is that the A sometimes doesn’t line up correctly. The only time that happens is when someone is running and the air makes the jersey go funny, or when the player doesn’t button up his top two buttons, i.e. Micah Owings. Which brings me to this, which I have mentioned before.

    I know that we all love to hate on the D-backs here, so, i believe we should have a little contest. Let’s play a game called “See If You Can Design A Better Diamondbacks Uniform”. I would love to see what would people will come up with. Maybe they actually will be better than the current ones.[/quote]

    I wasn’t the person who originaly vented about the Mets. I was simply stating that it’s hard to come up with something new every day, and added the D-back reference in there because next to the Mets, I think they’re mentioned the most for their colors. It was an attempt at sarcasm.

    I personaly love all the talk, whether it be about the Mets, D-back or the team I like, the Cubs. No team is perfect and since we all are, it’s up to us to point out their inconsitencies. (Incase you didn’t pick up on that, that too is a joke)

  • Matt D. | May 30, 2007 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”94848″]So I tried my hand at creating a new mets home ALTERNATE jersey which should be worn only for Sunday home games. I would also go nameless on the back, but I didn’t photoshop that.

    I followed a few basic principles to create this:

    – The alternate jersey should be distinguishable from the normal jersey. This is just this minus the pinstripes and plus blue piping.

    – I like Mr. Met.

    – I really like the classic look of the Tigers, Yankees, Reds, and White Sox.

    The jersey might look better with no numbers on the front. I haven’t made up my mind on that yet. In my mind it’s certainly an improvement over the current state of affairs.[/quote]

    Good job – a worthy replacement for the snow-shote uniform, IMHO. It reminds me a bit of the Indians’ Sunday uniform with sleeves.

  • Joey Guns | May 30, 2007 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”94874″][quote comment=”94865″]I just saw this on deadspin.

    Some guy had Mr. Met come to his birthday party.

    http://www.paultambu...

    Mr. Met was wearing a hat that even the Mets don’t wear!

    http://www.paultambu...

    At least in this pic, taken at Fenway Park last year, he’s wearing a hat that they do wear…….

    http://graphics.bost...Mr. met is wearing an old BP hat from 2005 0r 2006.[/quote]

    Yeah I realized that as I posted. I figured that hat would’ve been retired when 2007 started.

  • Roger | May 30, 2007 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”94840″][quote comment=”94833″]I was simply voicing my frustration with the constant complaining about the Mets.[/quote]

    You consider telling Paul to “shut the fuck up” to be simply voicing your frustration? Sounds pretty rude to me.[/quote]

    Very very rude. Shame on you, dude.

  • DRob | May 30, 2007 at 12:42 pm |

    Fulham FC in London is moving from Airness (a French company) to Nike for next season. Here is last season’s kit, compared to next years.
    A big BIG step up in my opinion. Their away will be “black and red stripes.”
    Hopefully next year I’ll be studying in South Kensington, nearby Craven Cottage and be able to root for McBride, Boca, and Dempsey in person.

  • Mel | May 30, 2007 at 12:47 pm |

    The Mets uniforms are bad enough, but who wants to watch that POC, Carlos Delgado? Haven’t Mets fans suffered enough?

  • Dave A | May 30, 2007 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”94877″]please tell me that im not the only one who when hearing the name,
    Derek Turnbow
    i think
    Chief Jay Turnbow[/quote]

    For the unenlightened, who is Chief Jay Turnbow?

  • Mr. Met | May 30, 2007 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”94900″]The Mets uniforms are bad enough, but who wants to watch that POC, Carlos Delgado? Haven’t Mets fans suffered enough?[/quote]

    Forgive my ignorance, but what the hell is a POC? Piece of Crap? And is this in reference to him not standing for “God Bless America” while playing in Toronto? Does anyone really care about that anymore?

    No offense, but I didn’t care about it when he was in Toronto. If he wants to stand, sit, do cartwheels, whatever; he has his convictions, I have mine. And seeing as how he stands for it now, it really is beyond a moot point.

  • Mr. Met | May 30, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”94901″][quote comment=”94877″]please tell me that im not the only one who when hearing the name,
    Derek Turnbow
    i think
    Chief Jay Turnbow[/quote]

    For the unenlightened, who is Chief Jay Turnbow?[/quote]

    Old school wrestler Chief Jay Strongbow; I guess Turnbow sounding very similar to Strongbow evokes memories of the Chief and his War Dance in some people.

  • Andy from KC | May 30, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    You know, I’m OK with discussing the Mets as it pertains to their unis. But these “player X is God” and “player Y sucks” tangents don’t belong here. There’s 50,000 other message boards for that. I come here to read anything BUT that.

  • Joe | May 30, 2007 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”94856″]Not good news for those of eagerly anticipating the return of “Baltimore” on the O’s away jerseys. I don’t know how much of this is BS, or even what to believe for that matter, but it sounds like the Orioles did consider the change, but are probably not (at least not this year) going to move forward with it. If that is the case…BOO!

    Much like Paul’s disgust over the Met’s uni situation, many of us O’s fans have been wanting to see this change for decades–I’ve even seen people with petitions outside the Yard asking for signates. I don’t want to put words in mouth of Paul or anyone else on this site, but for me the most frustrating thing is the question of “how can those that have the power to make these decisions make such stupid ones, totally disrarding the wishes of the fans!?!?”[/quote]

    I really despise Mr. Angelos. I can dream though…

  • Shaftman | May 30, 2007 at 1:01 pm |
  • Stuby | May 30, 2007 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”94904″]You know, I’m OK with discussing the Mets as it pertains to their unis. But these “player X is God” and “player Y sucks” tangents don’t belong here. There’s 50,000 other message boards for that. I come here to read anything BUT that.[/quote]
    Good Point.

  • Pedro | May 30, 2007 at 1:04 pm |

    I know this is a longshot (since it seems alot of you are out east) but was anyone here watching the Angels-Mariners game last night?? When Mike Napoli went up to bat in the bottom of the eighth in noticed the halo on his A had fallen off or was missing. I dont have Tivo so i cant upload a screengrab, can anyone take a look?? It might change the Mets monotany up a little bit and cheer all these grumpy uniwatchers up ha ha.

  • BStu | May 30, 2007 at 1:05 pm |

    I actually prefer the snow-white jersey and I like it with either the blue or black/blue caps. I wouldn’t mind seeing that share time with the Pinstripes during the week and let them have their Sunday blacks. I’d eliminate the black road alternate entirely as well as the all black cap. Road-alternates are the dumbest uniform phenomenon, in my opinion. I’m not a “Ditch the Black” guy. I own the black/blue cap and I have a black home jersey. Even I think they’ve gone way too far, though.

    Let them cycle through the pinstripes and snow-whites at home, always the blue caps with the pinstripes and 50/50 blue and black with the snow-whites, with Sunday wearing the black alternate. On the road, stick with the grey uniform and again go 50/50 with the blue and black caps. I’d also suggest 4 Sundays a year feature retro-80’s home jerseys, obviously with blue hats. By my count, this would result in the Blue caps being worn 96 games and the black caps being worn 68 games (and the black jersey’s only being worn 9 days) A nice, even compromise that reigns in the black, while still allowing allowing some indulgence of the color.

  • Tony Miller | May 30, 2007 at 1:09 pm |

    Am I going crazy, or does the guy in this photo (front row, second from left) have a Livestrong band three-fourths of the way up his forearm?

  • Mr. Met | May 30, 2007 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”94904″]You know, I’m OK with discussing the Mets as it pertains to their unis. But these “player X is God” and “player Y sucks” tangents don’t belong here. There’s 50,000 other message boards for that. I come here to read anything BUT that.[/quote]

    Good point. Additionally, this message board is slowly becoming one where people act like their opinion is gospel, and if you disagree, then you’re an idiot/moron/asshole/insert your own adjective.

    I don’t understand how acting like your viewpoint is the only correct one, using crude language or dropping f-bombs is to supposed to make your point any stronger. I mean, telling someone to STFU is just indicative of:

    (a) a lack of imagination and vocabulary.
    (b) the ability to grow a set on the internet, where you’re anonymous and can get away with telling someone to STFU without getting popped in the mouth.

    Surely there must be a better way to make your point without acting like a 12-year old……?

  • Jeff | May 30, 2007 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”94783″]While this is all nice and dandy, the fact is that those of us who are not Mets fans are fucking sick of all the Mets talk on this website. The uniforms that they wear from night to night are not that bad. So they have black jerseys? who cares? I understand that this is a uniform website, but we know how people feel about the black Uni’s, we know how people feel about the Mets, it’s time to just shut the fuck up already.[/quote]

    Sorry, I have to disagree. The Mets wearing black is the biggest atrocity in the uni-related world today. That might sound like an exaggeration, but its the truth. I’m a Giants fan and was constantly trying to keep the vomit in my mouth while watching the game last night.

    And it had nothing to to with Armando “I Did My Job” Benitez, either.

  • Chance | May 30, 2007 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”94816″]Hat modification buffs: Cory Sullivan seems to be another 5950 surgeon.[/quote]

    Not a very careful one, though. More like a 59fifty butcher….

  • Jonathon | May 30, 2007 at 1:13 pm |

    Looks like the Bears are ahead of the game in showing off some of their 2007 season sideline apparel. Their online store has the 2007 preseason coaches cap, the 2007 regular season coaches visor, and the 2007 regular season players visor. the hats usually mimic the visors, so this is a decent preview of what’s “in store” for nfl fans this fall:

    2007 preseason coaches cap:
    http://store.chicago...

    2007 regular season coaches visor:
    http://store.chicago...

    2007 regular season players visor:
    http://store.chicago...

    Are there any other teams that have made their 2007 stuff available yet? I only know that Jacksonville (go Jags!) have not. This stuff is not on NFL.com’s shop, either.

  • Joe Drennan | May 30, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”94915″]Am I going crazy, or does the guy in this photo (front row, second from left) have a Livestrong band three-fourths of the way up his forearm?[/quote]

    Those things are a bit big, so for a kid to do that doesn’t surprise me as it’s probably the only way he can keep it on.

  • Kyle at IU | May 30, 2007 at 1:18 pm |

    I think that if the Mets put “NEW YORK” across the black alts and used them on the road, that would be cool. I think the home alt. should be that wonderful shade of blue that they use, paired with the blue hats. Plus, I like the idea of using the cap logo on the alt, so go ahead and stick that on there. I may not like the Mets, but it would be nice to see them shape up a bit on the unis.

    As far as the d-backs are concerned: while the font on the jersey may be a little odd, and while I hate the fact that they abbreviated the team name on the jersey, the new colors look amazing. A couple more tweaks, and they could look real good.

  • Joe Drennan | May 30, 2007 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”94909″]Chief Jay Strongbow[/quote]
    I know his tag team partner “White Wolf” who happens to be Adnan Al-Kaissie who happens to be Iraqi by birth, not Native American.

  • Mr. Met | May 30, 2007 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”94914″]I actually prefer the snow-white jersey and I like it with either the blue or black/blue caps. I wouldn’t mind seeing that share time with the Pinstripes during the week and let them have their Sunday blacks. I’d eliminate the black road alternate entirely as well as the all black cap. Road-alternates are the dumbest uniform phenomenon, in my opinion. I’m not a “Ditch the Black” guy. I own the black/blue cap and I have a black home jersey. Even I think they’ve gone way too far, though.

    Let them cycle through the pinstripes and snow-whites at home, always the blue caps with the pinstripes and 50/50 blue and black with the snow-whites, with Sunday wearing the black alternate. On the road, stick with the grey uniform and again go 50/50 with the blue and black caps. I’d also suggest 4 Sundays a year feature retro-80’s home jerseys, obviously with blue hats. By my count, this would result in the Blue caps being worn 96 games and the black caps being worn 68 games (and the black jersey’s only being worn 9 days) A nice, even compromise that reigns in the black, while still allowing allowing some indulgence of the color.[/quote]

    My idea was this:
    Home weekday games: Snow-whites with blue caps (since there are relatively few home weekday games, it really would be relegated to “Alternate 2 status”)
    Home evening games + Saturdays: Pinstripes with blue caps
    Home Sunday games: Black alternates
    Road games: Road grays with blue/black caps
    Road Sunday games: Black alternates

    The Mets are not going to ditch the black for the foreseeable future, so maybe something like this would be an equitable solution.

  • Shaftman | May 30, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”94914″]I actually prefer the snow-white jersey and I like it with either the blue or black/blue caps. I wouldn’t mind seeing that share time with the Pinstripes during the week and let them have their Sunday blacks. I’d eliminate the black road alternate entirely as well as the all black cap. Road-alternates are the dumbest uniform phenomenon, in my opinion. I’m not a “Ditch the Black” guy. I own the black/blue cap and I have a black home jersey. Even I think they’ve gone way too far, though.

    Let them cycle through the pinstripes and snow-whites at home, always the blue caps with the pinstripes and 50/50 blue and black with the snow-whites, with Sunday wearing the black alternate. On the road, stick with the grey uniform and again go 50/50 with the blue and black caps. I’d also suggest 4 Sundays a year feature retro-80’s home jerseys, obviously with blue hats. By my count, this would result in the Blue caps being worn 96 games and the black caps being worn 68 games (and the black jersey’s only being worn 9 days) A nice, even compromise that reigns in the black, while still allowing allowing some indulgence of the color.[/quote]

    I think that is a well though out plan. I just don’t think the black jersey has anyplace in the scheme.

    I am so sick of teams that have multiple alternates…just have one. I would choose the snow white as the alternate since the pin striped uni’s are supposed to represent the 3 original NY teams and were designed with that purpose in mind. Then play your road games entireley in gray with the blue/black caps.

  • Foles | May 30, 2007 at 1:24 pm |

    During the Yankees – Blue Jays game last night Johnny Damon was wearing regular running shoes instead of cleats. Early on in the game he was on first and kept losing his grip on the dirt as he took his leads. The YES announcers made some comments about it and they showed some closeups of his shoes. Has he always done this?

  • Adam | May 30, 2007 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”94914″]Let them cycle through the pinstripes and snow-whites at home, always the blue caps with the pinstripes and 50/50 blue and black with the snow-whites, with Sunday wearing the black alternate. On the road, stick with the grey uniform and again go 50/50 with the blue and black caps. I’d also suggest 4 Sundays a year feature retro-80’s home jerseys, obviously with blue hats. By my count, this would result in the Blue caps being worn 96 games and the black caps being worn 68 games (and the black jersey’s only being worn 9 days) A nice, even compromise that reigns in the black, while still allowing allowing some indulgence of the color.[/quote]

    People keep suggesting different schedules the Mets could use, but is there any indication at all the Mets care at all? I’m pretty much completly indifferent on the whole black thing, but I can’t see how it benefits the team to get rid of the black uniforms or set a schedule, so why would they bother?

  • Mr. Met | May 30, 2007 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”94923″][quote comment=”94909″]Chief Jay Strongbow[/quote]
    I know his tag team partner “White Wolf” who happens to be Adnan Al-Kaissie who happens to be Iraqi by birth, not Native American.[/quote]

    Good stuff. You could do a whole column about that; pro-wrestlers and their real nationalities, like Adnan al-Kaissie or Nikolai Volkoff (a Polish guy from Maryland)…

  • susan | May 30, 2007 at 1:27 pm |

    I was at the Comets game last night (yea, yea… i know) and noticed the Comets home jerseys have the name ABOVE the number which is against the league wide template. The warm-ups and away jerseys, however, meet the template. I have been unable to find a photo – go figure…

    Which by the way – these are just about the ugliest uniforms I have EVER seen! Boring….. Not to mention, you can not even read the names because the font is way too skinny – and I have tickets on the 11th row!

  • Chad G | May 30, 2007 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”94922″]I think that if the Mets put “NEW YORK” across the black alts and used them on the road, that would be cool. I think the home alt. should be that wonderful shade of blue that they use, paired with the blue hats. Plus, I like the idea of using the cap logo on the alt, so go ahead and stick that on there. I may not like the Mets, but it would be nice to see them shape up a bit on the unis.

    As far as the d-backs are concerned: while the font on the jersey may be a little odd, and while I hate the fact that they abbreviated the team name on the jersey, the new colors look amazing. A couple more tweaks, and they could look real good.[/quote]

    Umm…They already do. It looks better than the home version, but it still sucks.

  • Mr. Met | May 30, 2007 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”94927″][quote comment=”94914″]Let them cycle through the pinstripes and snow-whites at home, always the blue caps with the pinstripes and 50/50 blue and black with the snow-whites, with Sunday wearing the black alternate. On the road, stick with the grey uniform and again go 50/50 with the blue and black caps. I’d also suggest 4 Sundays a year feature retro-80’s home jerseys, obviously with blue hats. By my count, this would result in the Blue caps being worn 96 games and the black caps being worn 68 games (and the black jersey’s only being worn 9 days) A nice, even compromise that reigns in the black, while still allowing allowing some indulgence of the color.[/quote]

    People keep suggesting different schedules the Mets could use, but is there any indication at all the Mets care at all? I’m pretty much completly indifferent on the whole black thing, but I can’t see how it benefits the team to get rid of the black uniforms or set a schedule, so why would they bother?[/quote]

    That was a point I made last night; I think stuff like the “Ditch the Black” campaign, while noble, is probably like a pimple on the ass of the Mets operations; you notice it at first, but eventually you just ignore it and go about your daily business.

  • Johnny O | May 30, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    Randy Winn of the Giants is among those who still sports Last year’s 5950’s. He is featured on MLB.com sporting the gray under bill. I don’t know if this pic was taken last year or this year, so it might all be for not, but it is worth checking into.

  • Stuby | May 30, 2007 at 1:33 pm |

    I’ve seen Jeff Francoeur of the Braves the last couple games wearing one of those ugly dotted Nike undershirts. Didn’t he get the memo that those things are God-awful?

  • tessa | May 30, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”94880″]But seriously, would you rather want to see the Mets in all black, or the Dbacks unis. I know this for a fact, that the D-backs unis are way better. They’re also a lot better than people give them credit for. They can even pull off a black uni better than the Mets. The only problem is that the A sometimes doesn’t line up correctly. The only time that happens is when someone is running and the air makes the jersey go funny, or when the player doesn’t button up his top two buttons, i.e. Micah Owings.[/quote]

    See, here’s the thing. A good sports uniform is designed for movement, not derailed by it. When a sports uniform is designed in a way that it looks ridiculous every time an athlete moves, it is a bad design, and therefore subject to incessant mocking by UniWatch and Co.

  • Robb | May 30, 2007 at 1:38 pm |

    The Alabama coaches’ shirts mentioned are actually part of Nike’s new template for ’07, the “Quick Count Coaches Polo”.
    Michigan State’s can be found here (along with other schools).

    They’re terrible.

  • Minna H. | May 30, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    I saw part of the Mets/Giants game last night, and I have to say I liked the look overall. I wasn’t sitting close to a TV, so the dropshadow didn’t bother me at all. I knew, however, that it would be the topic of the blog today–and I wasn’t disappointed.

    Mr. Met, I agree with you about having different opinions and trying to voice them respectfully. I have strong opinions (obviously), but I try to get the meaning across without going on a rampage. Obviously, I haven’t always succeeded, but I do think it’s better to explain your own point of view than to tell someone else s/he is full of crap.

    Back to unis: I don’t like the center gradation thing going on with the Argentine unis–looks bush league to me.

  • Joe Drennan | May 30, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”94940″][quote comment=”94880″]But seriously, would you rather want to see the Mets in all black, or the Dbacks unis. I know this for a fact, that the D-backs unis are way better. They’re also a lot better than people give them credit for. They can even pull off a black uni better than the Mets. The only problem is that the A sometimes doesn’t line up correctly. The only time that happens is when someone is running and the air makes the jersey go funny, or when the player doesn’t button up his top two buttons, i.e. Micah Owings.[/quote]

    See, here’s the thing. A good sports uniform is designed for movement, not derailed by it. When a sports uniform is designed in a way that it looks ridiculous every time an athlete moves, it is a bad design, and therefore subject to incessant mocking by UniWatch and Co.[/quote]

    Interesting point. Do you think this is why MLB went to pull over jerseys in the 80s? I think if the D-backs or other teams that have that little issue with a jersey not being buttoned all the way up wore pullover jerseys this obviously wouldn’t happen. I am not advocating pull over jerseys though, they look too little leagueish to me. I’m all for button up.

  • jkads | May 30, 2007 at 1:44 pm |

    Here is something uni-related even though it has nothing to do with the design:

    Rasheed Wallace tosses his sweaty jersey and hits a guy in the face.

  • patrick | May 30, 2007 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”94932″]I was at the Comets game last night (yea, yea… i know) and noticed the Comets home jerseys have the name ABOVE the number which is against the league wide template. The warm-ups and away jerseys, however, meet the template. I have been unable to find a photo – go figure…

    Which by the way – these are just about the ugliest uniforms I have EVER seen! Boring….. Not to mention, you can not even read the names because the font is way too skinny – and I have tickets on the 11th row![/quote]

    tickets… as in plural? like season tickets…. to the WNBA? they do that? wow

  • Colin | May 30, 2007 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”94899″]Fulham FC in London is moving from Airness (a French company) to Nike for next season. Here is last season’s kit, compared to next years.
    A big BIG step up in my opinion. Their away will be “black and red stripes.”
    Hopefully next year I’ll be studying in South Kensington, nearby Craven Cottage and be able to root for McBride, Boca, and Dempsey in person.[/quote]

    Nice. I like it. I haven’t yet seen the rumored Derby Adidas kits for 07/08, but if they are half as good as these new Fulham ones, I’ll be happy.

  • Brian W | May 30, 2007 at 1:46 pm |

    Last night, during the Pirates/Padres broadcast, the “roving sideline reporter” for the game reported that Pirate reliever Josh Sharpless, who was just re-called from the minors, had to wear a pair of Aaron Harang’s shoes for the game, since Harang was the only other player they could in the ballpark who wears size 15 shoes. Woulda looked funny if the “Reds” still wore red shoes like back in the day, huh?

  • Ron | May 30, 2007 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”94792″][quote comment=”94736″]Paul, you could of at least said something nice about the Giants uni’s. I mean, the Mets are supposed to be half Giants and half Dodgers right? Sorry the Giants gave you the black part, but at least the Giants uniforms look nice.[/quote]
    Armando Benitez in any uniform looks like shit.[/quote]
    I am not balking at that idea.

  • Rich | May 30, 2007 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”94832″]not sure if anyone else noticed but something was up with Derek Turnbow’s undershirt last night. it was completely baggy around the neck, like he had stretched the neck WAY out…

    sorry, no pic[/quote]
    Boo large-headed friend!

  • Ron | May 30, 2007 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”94815″][quote comment=”94806″][quote comment=”94798″][quote comment=”94792″][quote comment=”94736″]Paul, you could of at least said something nice about the Giants uni’s. I mean, the Mets are supposed to be half Giants and half Dodgers right? Sorry the Giants gave you the black part, but at least the Giants uniforms look nice.[/quote]
    Armando Benitez in any uniform looks like shit.[/quote]
    At least his name is fun to say though.[/quote]

    Not if you’re a Giant fan. 4.66 ERA and he’s the closer? The worst part is our starters are pretty solid, Zito, Morris, Cain, and Lowry. All good pitchers and our new kid Lincecum, leading up to Benitez? TWO BALKS? Some guys so all season without ONE and he gets two in one game.[/quote]
    Just remember: Joe Nathan, Francisco Liriano and Boof Bonser for AJ Pierzynski. I don’t think the Giants ever even tried Nathan in the Closer role. That hurts.[/quote]

    You’re right Nathan was a set-up guy. Don’t forget about Jeremy Accardo who is doing well in Toronto with a 1-0 record and 1.16 ERA and 5 saves. He could have been the closer had they not traded him for Chulk and Hillendbrand who ended being a rental.

  • Broker75 | May 30, 2007 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”94857″][quote comment=”94791″][quote comment=”94787″][quote comment=”94783″]While this is all nice and dandy, the fact is that those of us who are not Mets fans are fucking sick of all the Mets talk on this website. The uniforms that they wear from night to night are not that bad. So they have black jerseys? who cares? I understand that this is a uniform website, but we know how people feel about the black Uni’s, we know how people feel about the Mets, it’s time to just shut the fuck up already.[/quote]Must be a Yankee fan in a bad mood from being 14 games out.[/quote]

    14.5 haha

    at least they’re still tied with the devil rays for last.[/quote]
    But, the Rays own the season series so far 3-1… putting the Yankees at the bottom of the standings.[/quote]
    All this Yankee trash talk is just adding to Steinbrenner’s fire. People,! you are waking a sleeping lion. hush up y’all.
    Yankees!

  • Go Blue | May 30, 2007 at 1:57 pm |

    Who cares about Scumtic FC? It will always be the FAMOUS GLASGOW RANGERS!

    WATP
    FTP

  • Broker75 | May 30, 2007 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”94909″]Chief Jay Strongbow[/quote]
    Where did you find that? that guy is a legend!

  • Mr. Met | May 30, 2007 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”94955″][quote comment=”94857″][quote comment=”94791″][quote comment=”94787″][quote comment=”94783″]While this is all nice and dandy, the fact is that those of us who are not Mets fans are fucking sick of all the Mets talk on this website. The uniforms that they wear from night to night are not that bad. So they have black jerseys? who cares? I understand that this is a uniform website, but we know how people feel about the black Uni’s, we know how people feel about the Mets, it’s time to just shut the fuck up already.[/quote]Must be a Yankee fan in a bad mood from being 14 games out.[/quote]

    14.5 haha

    at least they’re still tied with the devil rays for last.[/quote]
    But, the Rays own the season series so far 3-1… putting the Yankees at the bottom of the standings.[/quote]
    All this Yankee trash talk is just adding to Steinbrenner’s fire. People,! you are waking a sleeping lion. hush up y’all.
    Yankees![/quote]

    Forget about waking a sleeping lion; someone needs to wake up those sleeping bats.

  • Aaron | May 30, 2007 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”94876″]Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but the Cubs’ Jason Marquis doesn’t use a “Q” in his last name on his jersey, but instead an “O”. I can’t seem to dig up any photos from last night, but I was able to pause the TiVo and take a pretty close look, and it doesn’t really look like there’s anything at all coming off the “O” like there was in StL.[/quote]

    It looks like an O, but its really a Q

    http://www.wrigleyvi...

  • Broker75 | May 30, 2007 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”94959″][quote comment=”94955″][quote comment=”94857″][quote comment=”94791″][quote comment=”94787″][quote comment=”94783″]While this is all nice and dandy, the fact is that those of us who are not Mets fans are fucking sick of all the Mets talk on this website. The uniforms that they wear from night to night are not that bad. So they have black jerseys? who cares? I understand that this is a uniform website, but we know how people feel about the black Uni’s, we know how people feel about the Mets, it’s time to just shut the fuck up already.[/quote]Must be a Yankee fan in a bad mood from being 14 games out.[/quote]

    14.5 haha

    at least they’re still tied with the devil rays for last.[/quote]
    But, the Rays own the season series so far 3-1… putting the Yankees at the bottom of the standings.[/quote]
    All this Yankee trash talk is just adding to Steinbrenner’s fire. People,! you are waking a sleeping lion. hush up y’all.
    Yankees![/quote]

    Forget about waking a sleeping lion; someone needs to wake up those sleeping bats.[/quote]
    Ever since the Unit came to town, it’s never been the same..I was so glad to see him go. Yankee colors did not suit him.

  • Robert | May 30, 2007 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”94939″]I’ve seen Jeff Francoeur of the Braves the last couple games wearing one of those ugly dotted Nike undershirts. Didn’t he get the memo that those things are God-awful?[/quote]

    Kenny Lofton still wears one as well.

  • Joey Guns | May 30, 2007 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”94936″]Randy Winn of the Giants is among those who still sports Last year’s 5950’s. He is featured on MLB.com sporting the gray under bill. I don’t know if this pic was taken last year or this year, so it might all be for not, but it is worth checking into.[/quote]

    http://sports.yahoo....

    In that pic, it looks like he’s wearing this year’s hat. A lot of the profile pics are old. The best is Juan Pierre’s profile pic. He’s got a green underbill! It’s been mentioned on here at least twice. I sent it to Paul, in case he wanted to include it in his next story.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/t...

  • Joey Guns | May 30, 2007 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”94926″]During the Yankees – Blue Jays game last night Johnny Damon was wearing regular running shoes instead of cleats. Early on in the game he was on first and kept losing his grip on the dirt as he took his leads. The YES announcers made some comments about it and they showed some closeups of his shoes. Has he always done this?[/quote]

    I heard that too. I think they were also saying that he only did that for better support for his calves. Did you see how he was trying to get a bigger lead onto the astroturf, so he could get a better jump?

  • Shane | May 30, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”94801″]Quick re-post from late yesterday. Todd McFarlane issued a new Wayne Gretzky figure from the 1996 Blues season where he played 31 games. Uniform cameo and oddity in one.

    http://www.spawn.com...

    I forgot how horrid those Blues sweaters were. Ouch.

    btw, love the new Fulham shirt. Hopefully my side (Man United) sticks with last year’s kit, or has something like Fulham’s, very simple.

  • Mr. Met | May 30, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”94962″][quote comment=”94939″]I’ve seen Jeff Francoeur of the Braves the last couple games wearing one of those ugly dotted Nike undershirts. Didn’t he get the memo that those things are God-awful?[/quote]

    Kenny Lofton still wears one as well.[/quote]

    Ruben Gotay of the Mets wears one as well. Oddly enough, he wasn’t on the club last year when the shirts first debuted.

  • Shaftman | May 30, 2007 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”94958″][quote comment=”94909″]Chief Jay Strongbow[/quote]
    Where did you find that? that guy is a legend![/quote]

    Here.

  • Josh | May 30, 2007 at 2:36 pm |

    I hate the Mets.
    (Sorry…as a Cardinals fan, I’m required to start any comment about the Mets with that)

    If the Mets equip mgr. is so damn worried about having their dugout jackets match the black crap, why doesn’t he just have the team wear THIS MUCH BETTER LOOKING JACKET instead?

    WINDBREAKER VERSION

  • Shaftman | May 30, 2007 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”94982″]I hate the Mets.
    (Sorry…as a Cardinals fan, I’m required to start any comment about the Mets with that)

    If the Mets equip mgr. is so damn worried about having their dugout jackets match the black crap, why doesn’t he just have the team wear THIS MUCH BETTER LOOKING JACKET instead?

    WINDBREAKER VERSION[/quote]

    I hate the Cardinals, especially that Molina guy…

    But who knew their fans were so intelligent.

    Hey Charlie (Samuels)…we found your new assistant.

  • Joey Guns | May 30, 2007 at 2:43 pm |

    As much as I hate the Yankees, I do like this jacket:

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

    It reminds me of one of my favorite jackets:

    http://www.designerv...

  • Mel | May 30, 2007 at 2:47 pm |

    As long as Delgado wears a Uniform, he is fair game for criticism. And yes, he is a POC for being a hypocritical jerk. Making millions of dollars from MLB, and then criticizing the fans (mostly American) immediately after 9/11 is inexcusable. And until he makes a formal apology, and shows some real support from both America and the soldiers and Marines who died defending his right to be an ass, I will speak out, just as others like Mr. Met and Minna have done.

  • Ian K | May 30, 2007 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”94862″]
    My question is why are Bonser and Liriano always mentioned in that trade? Liriano is gonna be a Kerry Wood (talent beyond belief, but always hurt) and Bonser is marginal at best.[/quote]

    3 players that have made the bigs AND made an impact- (Boof is a decent #3 or #4 starter with a sub 4 ERA and Liriano did help the Twins win the Central) The Giants had Pierzynski for 1 year. Even if your prediction proves true, the Giants still gave up a lot for a rent-a-player. And of course, as a Dodgers fan it sure makes me smile.

  • Joey Guns | May 30, 2007 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”94987″][quote comment=”94982″]I hate the Mets.
    (Sorry…as a Cardinals fan, I’m required to start any comment about the Mets with that)

    If the Mets equip mgr. is so damn worried about having their dugout jackets match the black crap, why doesn’t he just have the team wear THIS MUCH BETTER LOOKING JACKET instead?

    WINDBREAKER VERSION[/quote]

    I hate the Cardinals, especially that Molina guy…

    But who knew their fans were so intelligent.

    Hey Charlie (Samuels)…we found your new assistant.[/quote]

    All of the Molinas are becoming Met killers. There’s a 4th one, on the White Sox (also a catcher, but no relation, that I know of).

  • todd krevanchi | May 30, 2007 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”94932″]I was at the Comets game last night (yea, yea… i know) and noticed the Comets home jerseys have the name ABOVE the number which is against the league wide template. The warm-ups and away jerseys, however, meet the template. I have been unable to find a photo – go figure…

    Which by the way – these are just about the ugliest uniforms I have EVER seen! Boring….. Not to mention, you can not even read the names because the font is way too skinny – and I have tickets on the 11th row![/quote]

    awesome another fan (or appreciator of womens basketball at least)!

    here is where i input my sue bird comment for the day.

    like i said before,
    do i think the mets are over covered?
    do i think cleveland area teams are over covered?
    do i think japanese baseball is over covered?

    yes.
    yes.
    yes.

    but listen, that just means, that PL, vince, and jeremy and mark in shiga are contributing relevent uni info on these teams. and PL feels its “fit to print”.

    i dont remember PL writing a commentary on the mets or the way that randolph and his staff run the team.
    i dont recall vince saying anything on the off season acquisitions of the browns and how it will affect their division play, or creating a personal agenda on any cleveland or ohio based team.
    i dont think ive read anything from jeremy or mark about one team vs. another in japanese baseball.

    this site is so unique in that you can talk about sports here, and not REALLY talk about sports. someone with a keen eye, and attention to detail who has no idea what is going on on the court, field or ice, could get just as much out of this site as its most rabid fan.

    thats what i love about this site.

    this “DTB” stuff?
    when was the last time he forced this agenda? how bout never.
    its not even linked anymore.

    you guys know im a ‘heels fan. if i want to talk about their uni’s, i’ll come here. if i want to talk about why roy called a play for tyler down low and not ty on a dribble penetration to kick out to wayne on the wing, i’ll go to insidecarolina.com

    i think that is the philosophy we have here… but thats just me.

  • Adam | May 30, 2007 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote]
    All of the Molinas are becoming Met killers.

    There’s a 4th one, on the White Sox (also a catcher, but no relation, that I know of).[/quote]

    That’s Gustavo, and he’s not related, and he’s now in triple A (and it’s not likely he’ll make it back up any time soon, unless one of the two catchers on the team gets hurt).

  • Kris McInnis | May 30, 2007 at 2:53 pm |

    Nike is also developing a line of uniform apparel for the newly created and aspiring Alabama Crimson Tide Coed-Intramural 4-Wheelin’ Team. The preliminary design looks like this. Boo-Joe Weaver, senior/team captain/ATV enthusiast/and faithful BAMA loyalist, has expressed his general satisfaction of the design. He only wished that Nike had actually incorporated Saban’s name within the design.

    Also, there is no further news on Weaver’s related appeal to the manufacturer that asks of Nike to “go ahead and change their name to ‘Nick’.”

  • WVU Tom | May 30, 2007 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”94905″][quote comment=”94856″]Not good news for those of eagerly anticipating the return of “Baltimore” on the O’s away jerseys. I don’t know how much of this is BS, or even what to believe for that matter, but it sounds like the Orioles did consider the change, but are probably not (at least not this year) going to move forward with it. If that is the case…BOO!

    Much like Paul’s disgust over the Met’s uni situation, many of us O’s fans have been wanting to see this change for decades–I’ve even seen people with petitions outside the Yard asking for signates. I don’t want to put words in mouth of Paul or anyone else on this site, but for me the most frustrating thing is the question of “how can those that have the power to make these decisions make such stupid ones, totally disrarding the wishes of the fans!?!?”[/quote]

    I really despise Mr. Angelos. I can dream though…[/quote]

    Frankly, it’s matter of tradition and standards. Currently, only 5 teams (I think) use the team name as opposed to the location name on the road Jerseys–

    Philly: Pretty much always done it that way (including when the A’s were located there); in fact, according to “Dressed to the Nines”, you have to go back to 1900 to find a Road Jersey with “PHILA” on it.

    St. Louis: Again, ALWAYS done it this way, so I’ll let it pass.

    California/Anahiem/LA Angels: OK, they would need to actually figure out where they are from before they could label the jersey that way.

    Milwaukee: This team has been back and forth, but did wear “Milwaukee” from ’78 to ’94, and I’ve alwys thought they should go back to previous unis anyway–but the case is there that this team has established classic unifroms that do it the right way (or at least the traditional way).

    Baltimore: Again, Putting “Orioles” on the road jerseys was a marketing ploy, and is not based on a tradition, so it should change. Preferably to something like this.

  • Joey Guns | May 30, 2007 at 3:00 pm |

    http://www.charitywi...

    There’s a new wine coming out called “Manny Being Merlot”. I kid you not. There’s also Schilling Schardonnay and Tim Wakefield Presents…
    “CaberKnuckle”.

  • susan | May 30, 2007 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”94945″][quote comment=”94932″]I was at the Comets game last night (yea, yea… i know) and noticed the Comets home jerseys have the name ABOVE the number which is against the league wide template. The warm-ups and away jerseys, however, meet the template. I have been unable to find a photo – go figure…

    Which by the way – these are just about the ugliest uniforms I have EVER seen! Boring….. Not to mention, you can not even read the names because the font is way too skinny – and I have tickets on the 11th row![/quote]

    tickets… as in plural? like season tickets…. to the WNBA? they do that? wow[/quote]

    Yes, they do. It is a far better alternative than Rockets season tickets. And actually quite affordable. Enough so that I have had four seats for ten plus years now. Yes… the WNBA has been around that long.

  • Ed | May 30, 2007 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”94880″]I know that we all love to hate on the D-backs here, so, i believe we should have a little contest. Let’s play a game called “See If You Can Design A Better Diamondbacks Uniform”. I would love to see what would people will come up with. Maybe they actually will be better than the current ones.[/quote]

    OK, how about this?

    ed

  • todd krevanchi | May 30, 2007 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”94999″]Nike is also developing a line of uniform apparel for the newly created and aspiring Alabama Crimson Tide Coed-Intramural 4-Wheelin’ Team. The preliminary design looks like this. Boo-Joe Weaver, senior/team captain/ATV enthusiast/and faithful BAMA loyalist, has expressed his general satisfaction of the design. He only wished that Nike had actually incorporated Saban’s name within the design.

    Also, there is no further news on Weaver’s related appeal to the manufacturer that asks of Nike to “go ahead and change their name to ‘Nick’.”[/quote]

    you should try to get these ahem, “team” hats.

    i actually thought about ordering one just cuz of how unique it is…

  • Kings33 | May 30, 2007 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”94943″][quote comment=”94940″][quote comment=”94880″]But seriously, would you rather want to see the Mets in all black, or the Dbacks unis. I know this for a fact, that the D-backs unis are way better. They’re also a lot better than people give them credit for. They can even pull off a black uni better than the Mets. The only problem is that the A sometimes doesn’t line up correctly. The only time that happens is when someone is running and the air makes the jersey go funny, or when the player doesn’t button up his top two buttons, i.e. Micah Owings.[/quote]

    See, here’s the thing. A good sports uniform is designed for movement, not derailed by it. When a sports uniform is designed in a way that it looks ridiculous every time an athlete moves, it is a bad design, and therefore subject to incessant mocking by UniWatch and Co.[/quote]

    Interesting point. Do you think this is why MLB went to pull over jerseys in the 80s? I think if the D-backs or other teams that have that little issue with a jersey not being buttoned all the way up wore pullover jerseys this obviously wouldn’t happen. I am not advocating pull over jerseys though, they look too little leagueish to me. I’m all for button up.[/quote]

    Even my little leaguers get to go 3 button Henley… And when you make All-Stars, you get a full button down vest and coordinating undershirt.

    My point – better players get more buttons… no pullover jerseys!

    BTW, we do have a logo creep issue, with the Dick’s Sporting Goods tags at the neck in back. I’ve thought about buying out the uni-sponsorship for the league just to put Chico’s Bail Bonds on there.

  • todd krevanchi | May 30, 2007 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”94999″]Nike is also developing a line of uniform apparel for the newly created and aspiring Alabama Crimson Tide Coed-Intramural 4-Wheelin’ Team. The preliminary design looks like this. Boo-Joe Weaver, senior/team captain/ATV enthusiast/and faithful BAMA loyalist, has expressed his general satisfaction of the design. He only wished that Nike had actually incorporated Saban’s name within the design.

    Also, there is no further news on Weaver’s related appeal to the manufacturer that asks of Nike to “go ahead and change their name to ‘Nick’.”[/quote]

    you should try to get these ahem, “team” hats.

    i actually thought about ordering one just because of how unique it is…

  • todd krevanchi | May 30, 2007 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”94999″]Nike is also developing a line of uniform apparel for the newly created and aspiring Alabama Crimson Tide Coed-Intramural 4-Wheelin’ Team. The preliminary design looks like this. Boo-Joe Weaver, senior/team captain/ATV enthusiast/and faithful BAMA loyalist, has expressed his general satisfaction of the design. He only wished that Nike had actually incorporated Saban’s name within the design.

    Also, there is no further news on Weaver’s related appeal to the manufacturer that asks of Nike to “go ahead and change their name to ‘Nick’.”[/quote]

    you should try to get these ahem, “team hats“.

    i actually thought about ordering one just because of how unique it is…

  • patrick | May 30, 2007 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”94991″]As long as Delgado wears a Uniform, he is fair game for criticism. And yes, he is a POC for being a hypocritical jerk. Making millions of dollars from MLB, and then criticizing the fans (mostly American) immediately after 9/11 is inexcusable. And until he makes a formal apology, and shows some real support from both America and the soldiers and Marines who died defending his right to be an ass, I will speak out, just as others like Mr. Met and Minna have done.[/quote]

    ummm, is he even a US citizen? BC if not, he has no “obligation” to support anyone but himself. And if he IS a citizen, he still has the right to say whatever he’d like. Thats the beauty of this country….

  • JayD | May 30, 2007 at 3:21 pm |

    We were at the Yankees v Blue Jays game last night. Great seats behind the Yankee dugout and noticed Jason Giambi wears a Nike cleat on his right foot and a Nike sneaker on his left when batting.. I know he’s got some “bone spur” issues, and you should see the guy limp while walking, let alone running. But i’ve never noticed this before. Between that and Johnny Damon changing out of his spikes and into Puma sneakers at first base, it made for a few conversations. Watch for it again tonight

  • WVU Tom | May 30, 2007 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”95010″][quote comment=”94880″]I know that we all love to hate on the D-backs here, so, i believe we should have a little contest. Let’s play a game called “See If You Can Design A Better Diamondbacks Uniform”. I would love to see what would people will come up with. Maybe they actually will be better than the current ones.[/quote]

    OK, how about this?

    ed[/quote]

    I haven’t said a word all year about the D’backs…until now. I don’t think the new unifroms are all that bad. I don’t really like the font, but I’m a fan of the more traditional fonts in general. The one thing that does bug me though is the choice of color–red seems to be the new “it” color, and just seemed unoriginal (not that I was a real fan of the old color scheme).

    I’m not much of a designer, so I don’t have anything to contribute there… Being a southwest team, if you wanted to go with red, maybe mixing in some some burnt orange would look sharp, and more original than every other team that using red these days.

  • Kings33 | May 30, 2007 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”95002″][quote comment=”94905″][quote comment=”94856″]Not good news for those of eagerly anticipating the return of “Baltimore” on the O’s away jerseys. I don’t know how much of this is BS, or even what to believe for that matter, but it sounds like the Orioles did consider the change, but are probably not (at least not this year) going to move forward with it. If that is the case…BOO!

    [/quote]
    I can appreciate wanting the City name on road jerseys, but when it comes to Baltimore, I think this is a uni that needs a complete overhaul. I hate the font – it just screams 1970’s goofy bird logo to me to this day.

    I think this is a team that’s stayed fairly consistent over the years that could really use some updating across the board. The hat was a vast improvement over the 8 panel goofy bird, but what have you done for me lately?

  • Josh | May 30, 2007 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”95002″]
    Frankly, it’s matter of tradition and standards. Currently, only 5 teams (I think) use the team name as opposed to the location name on the road Jerseys–

    Philly: Pretty much always done it that way (including when the A’s were located there); in fact, according to “Dressed to the Nines”, you have to go back to 1900 to find a Road Jersey with “PHILA” on it.

    St. Louis: Again, ALWAYS done it this way, so I’ll let it pass.

    California/Anahiem/LA Angels: OK, they would need to actually figure out where they are from before they could label the jersey that way.

    Milwaukee: This team has been back and forth, but did wear “Milwaukee” from ’78 to ’94, and I’ve alwys thought they should go back to previous unis anyway–but the case is there that this team has established classic unifroms that do it the right way (or at least the traditional way).

    Baltimore: Again, Putting “Orioles” on the road jerseys was a marketing ploy, and is not based on a tradition, so it should change. Preferably to something like this.[/quote]
    Actually the Cardinals briefly had St Louis on the road unis in the 1930’s
    See it here
    I have always wished they would go back to this on the road greys.

  • CBates22 | May 30, 2007 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”94919″]Looks like the Bears are ahead of the game in showing off some of their 2007 season sideline apparel. Their online store has the 2007 preseason coaches cap, the 2007 regular season coaches visor, and the 2007 regular season players visor. the hats usually mimic the visors, so this is a decent preview of what’s “in store” for nfl fans this fall:

    2007 preseason coaches cap:
    http://store.chicago...

    2007 regular season coaches visor:
    http://store.chicago...

    2007 regular season players visor:
    http://store.chicago...

    Are there any other teams that have made their 2007 stuff available yet? I only know that Jacksonville (go Jags!) have not. This stuff is not on NFL.com’s shop, either.[/quote]

    Jonathon,

    I am not sure about other team sites, but I have seen one online retailer that is selling these hats.

    Examples:

    Cardinals

    Colts

    Bengals

    Giants

    Chargers

    I don’t even want to know what in the world these horrific things are.

  • WVU Tom | May 30, 2007 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”95023″][quote comment=”95002″]
    Frankly, it’s matter of tradition and standards. Currently, only 5 teams (I think) use the team name as opposed to the location name on the road Jerseys–

    Philly: Pretty much always done it that way (including when the A’s were located there); in fact, according to “Dressed to the Nines”, you have to go back to 1900 to find a Road Jersey with “PHILA” on it.

    St. Louis: Again, ALWAYS done it this way, so I’ll let it pass.

    California/Anahiem/LA Angels: OK, they would need to actually figure out where they are from before they could label the jersey that way.

    Milwaukee: This team has been back and forth, but did wear “Milwaukee” from ’78 to ’94, and I’ve alwys thought they should go back to previous unis anyway–but the case is there that this team has established classic unifroms that do it the right way (or at least the traditional way).

    Baltimore: Again, Putting “Orioles” on the road jerseys was a marketing ploy, and is not based on a tradition, so it should change. Preferably to something like this.[/quote]
    Actually the Cardinals briefly had St Louis on the road unis in the 1930’s
    See it here
    I have always wished they would go back to this on the road greys.[/quote]

    Hmmm…I missed that, and it is much better.

  • Mark in Shiga | May 30, 2007 at 3:46 pm |

    The Cubs had the nickname for a while in the 1980s when they wore the blue jerseys with the round “CUBS” logo. If they would just dump the gray road jerseys for the much cooler blue alternates with the C and the walking bear, they wouldn’t have the city name either. Come to think of it — and this mught be blasphemy — I wouldn’t mind seeing that logo on the pinstriped jerseys at home.

  • DRob | May 30, 2007 at 4:02 pm |

    More soccer related news.

    New Barca home shirt (a mix between last year and this year).

    New Man U home jersey. All red, I kinda like it. More pics here.

  • Adam | May 30, 2007 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”95028″]The Cubs had the nickname for a while in the 1980s when they wore the blue jerseys with the round “CUBS” logo. If they would just dump the gray road jerseys for the much cooler blue alternates with the C and the walking bear, they wouldn’t have the city name either. Come to think of it — and this mught be blasphemy — I wouldn’t mind seeing that logo on the pinstriped jerseys at home.[/quote]

    I hate the Cubs way too much to spend time looking up the specifics, but they also had gray road uniforms with “Cubs” in an odd font at some point in the late 90s. I recall people complaining that it looked like “Cuba”

  • Shaftman | May 30, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”95039″][quote comment=”95028″]The Cubs had the nickname for a while in the 1980s when they wore the blue jerseys with the round “CUBS” logo. If they would just dump the gray road jerseys for the much cooler blue alternates with the C and the walking bear, they wouldn’t have the city name either. Come to think of it — and this mught be blasphemy — I wouldn’t mind seeing that logo on the pinstriped jerseys at home.[/quote]

    I hate the Cubs way too much to spend time looking up the specifics, but they also had gray road uniforms with “Cubs” in an odd font at some point in the late 90s. I recall people complaining that it looked like “Cuba”[/quote]

    If these are the ones that you are referring too, then I agree with the “cuba” assesment.

  • Shaftman | May 30, 2007 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”95042″][quote comment=”95039″][quote comment=”95028″]The Cubs had the nickname for a while in the 1980s when they wore the blue jerseys with the round “CUBS” logo. If they would just dump the gray road jerseys for the much cooler blue alternates with the C and the walking bear, they wouldn’t have the city name either. Come to think of it — and this mught be blasphemy — I wouldn’t mind seeing that logo on the pinstriped jerseys at home.[/quote]

    I hate the Cubs way too much to spend time looking up the specifics, but they also had gray road uniforms with “Cubs” in an odd font at some point in the late 90s. I recall people complaining that it looked like “Cuba”[/quote]

    If these are the ones that you are referring too, then I agree with the “cuba” assesment.[/quote]

    I meant these.

  • Anthony Verna | May 30, 2007 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”95026″]I don’t even want to know what in the world these horrific things are.[/quote]

    I’m going to order 5 of each. Then I’m going to hand them out to my relatives.

  • schuby | May 30, 2007 at 4:21 pm |

    ed– I would not mind that jersey one bit. A number might be nice, but I would have to see it to find out. And generally, the away jersey doesn’t have a problem with overlapping, and i like the style of jersey, too. They had one like that with the old color scheme, and i loved it.

    The point is, most people terribly overreacted when the new jerseys came out. They got mad because they “copied”(when its really just similar) color schemes, and overlooked the fact that they are pretty good unis. When they found one problem(the overlapping) they ran with it because they still didn’t like it. That isn’t fair because evertyone should agree that they were a huge improvement. But an even bigger improvement would be the jersey with just the A on it. Nice work ed, i’ve been waiting for something like that.

  • Shaftman | May 30, 2007 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”95048″][quote comment=”95026″]I don’t even want to know what in the world these horrific things are.[/quote]

    I’m going to order 5 of each. Then I’m going to hand them out to my relatives.[/quote]

    It keeps me safe when I’m… jogging at night!

  • Pedro | May 30, 2007 at 4:21 pm |

    So did anyone notice the halo missing on the A of Mile Napoli’s jersey in last nights Angels-Mariners game? It happenned on his 8th inning at bat.

  • DZ | May 30, 2007 at 4:23 pm |

    Speaking of ugly, I hope the Pirates didn’t wear this combo that often:

    http://dynamic.si.cn...

  • Stuby | May 30, 2007 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”94919″]Looks like the Bears are ahead of the game in showing off some of their 2007 season sideline apparel. Their online store has the 2007 preseason coaches cap, the 2007 regular season coaches visor, and the 2007 regular season players visor. the hats usually mimic the visors, so this is a decent preview of what’s “in store” for nfl fans this fall:

    2007 preseason coaches cap:
    http://store.chicago...

    2007 regular season coaches visor:
    http://store.chicago...

    2007 regular season players visor:
    http://store.chicago...

    Are there any other teams that have made their 2007 stuff available yet? I only know that Jacksonville (go Jags!) have not. This stuff is not on NFL.com’s shop, either.[/quote]
    They have a ‘Preseason Cap’? Someone actually gets paid to think up stuff like that!

  • Sammy | May 30, 2007 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”95002″]
    Frankly, it’s matter of tradition and standards. Currently, only 5 teams (I think) use the team name as opposed to the location name on the road Jerseys–

    Philly: Pretty much always done it that way (including when the A’s were located there); in fact, according to “Dressed to the Nines”, you have to go back to 1900 to find a Road Jersey with “PHILA” on it.

    St. Louis: Again, ALWAYS done it this way, so I’ll let it pass.

    California/Anahiem/LA Angels: OK, they would need to actually figure out where they are from before they could label the jersey that way.

    Milwaukee: This team has been back and forth, but did wear “Milwaukee” from ’78 to ’94, and I’ve alwys thought they should go back to previous unis anyway–but the case is there that this team has established classic unifroms that do it the right way (or at least the traditional way).

    Baltimore: Again, Putting “Orioles” on the road jerseys was a marketing ploy, and is not based on a tradition, so it should change. Preferably to something like this.[/quote]

    I heard, probably on these boards, that the reason that they say Orioles is that the team was trying to include the Washington DC area, and did not want to be exclusive to Baltimore. Since the Nats are back in Washington now, I see no reason to return to the Baltimore road jersey. Especially if there is so much passion among the fans about it.

    For my hometown Detroit Tigers, it would be tough to figure out that they are Tigers unless you knew already.

  • Broker75 | May 30, 2007 at 4:42 pm |

    I’m surprised the Orioles still have the ‘Orioles’ on both home and away. Most teams have their respective city/state on their aways. Speaking of having a state name on your jersey as a team name, why can’t Arizona be Phoenix. Florida should be Miami. Anaheim was California. Texas? hm, don’t know.

  • Jerry | May 30, 2007 at 4:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”95010″][quote comment=”94880″]I know that we all love to hate on the D-backs here, so, i believe we should have a little contest. Let’s play a game called “See If You Can Design A Better Diamondbacks Uniform”. I would love to see what would people will come up with. Maybe they actually will be better than the current ones.[/quote]

    OK, how about this?

    ed[/quote]

    That’s way better. Maybe I’ll take a crack at one during the Mets game tonight.

  • Stuby | May 30, 2007 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”95066″]I’m surprised the Orioles still have the ‘Orioles’ on both home and away. Most teams have their respective city/state on their aways. Speaking of having a state name on your jersey as a team name, why can’t Arizona be Phoenix. Florida should be Miami. Anaheim was California. Texas? hm, don’t know.[/quote]
    ‘Dallas Rangers’ would just be dumb. A Texas Ranger is an actual occupation.

  • Broker75 | May 30, 2007 at 4:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”95071″][quote comment=”95066″]I’m surprised the Orioles still have the ‘Orioles’ on both home and away. Most teams have their respective city/state on their aways. Speaking of having a state name on your jersey as a team name, why can’t Arizona be Phoenix. Florida should be Miami. Anaheim was California. Texas? hm, don’t know.[/quote]
    ‘Dallas Rangers’ would just be dumb. A Texas Ranger is an actual occupation.[/quote]
    Conan loves Walker..hilarious

  • Matthew S. | May 30, 2007 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”95071″][quote comment=”95066″]I’m surprised the Orioles still have the ‘Orioles’ on both home and away. Most teams have their respective city/state on their aways. Speaking of having a state name on your jersey as a team name, why can’t Arizona be Phoenix. Florida should be Miami. Anaheim was California. Texas? hm, don’t know.[/quote]
    ‘Dallas Rangers’ would just be dumb. A Texas Ranger is an actual occupation.[/quote]

    An unintentionally funny occupation: http://www.youtube.c...

  • Lockbull | May 30, 2007 at 4:51 pm |

    More soccer related news.

    New Barca home shirt (a mix between last year and this year).

    New Man U home jersey. All red, I kinda like it. More pics here.


    LOVE the Barca Jersey, especially the “Camp Nou” circle around the crest.

    Man U? – Looks like bloody Liverpool!

  • Jerry | May 30, 2007 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”95015″][quote comment=”94991″]As long as Delgado wears a Uniform, he is fair game for criticism. And yes, he is a POC for being a hypocritical jerk. Making millions of dollars from MLB, and then criticizing the fans (mostly American) immediately after 9/11 is inexcusable. And until he makes a formal apology, and shows some real support from both America and the soldiers and Marines who died defending his right to be an ass, I will speak out, just as others like Mr. Met and Minna have done.[/quote]

    ummm, is he even a US citizen? BC if not, he has no “obligation” to support anyone but himself. And if he IS a citizen, he still has the right to say whatever he’d like. Thats the beauty of this country….[/quote]

    This is pretty off topic, but Delgado is a US citizen (Puerto Rico is a US territory) and he was protesting against the decision to invade Iraq and the US Navy’s use of certain areas of Puerto Rico for target practice.

  • alex | May 30, 2007 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”94751″]Seeing the ballgirl in the Cubs video reminds me of the greatest ballgirl of all time, the great Marla Collins. I would watch Cubs games in the 1980s just to see her.

    http://ignarski.trip...

    Is she the one that took OFF her uniform for Playboy?

  • Mike Engle | May 30, 2007 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”94882″]Goofy, while I agree with you about colors being better than dull gray, this question:

    couldn’t MLB come up with different colors for each team

    ..is pretty disturbing. Why should the league decide what colors the individual teams wear? I could easily imagine Selig taking that power for himself; don’t put any ideas in their heads![/quote]
    Haha, Selig would change every team’s colors to navy and red to mimic the Milwaukee Braves. Darn good thing he couldn’t do that to the Pilots/Brewers. Their blue and yellow looks amazing!

  • Mike Engle | May 30, 2007 at 4:55 pm |

    Now, for a repost (I am going to repost this every day until I get an answer, not including STFU, because that is not an answer):
    What is the significance/function of the little button on top of baseball caps, if any?

  • MJ | May 30, 2007 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”95015″][quote comment=”94991″]As long as Delgado wears a Uniform, he is fair game for criticism. And yes, he is a POC for being a hypocritical jerk. Making millions of dollars from MLB, and then criticizing the fans (mostly American) immediately after 9/11 is inexcusable. And until he makes a formal apology, and shows some real support from both America and the soldiers and Marines who died defending his right to be an ass, I will speak out, just as others like Mr. Met and Minna have done.[/quote]

    ummm, is he even a US citizen? BC if not, he has no “obligation” to support anyone but himself. And if he IS a citizen, he still has the right to say whatever he’d like. Thats the beauty of this country….[/quote]

    If he is NOT a citizen, he has no right to criticize the American people or our soldiers while playing AMERICA’S past time and cashing in those millions of American dollars. If he IS a citizen, he is criticizing the very men and women who fight every day for his freedom to sound like an ass.

  • MJ | May 30, 2007 at 5:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”95080″]Now, for a repost (I am going to repost this every day until I get an answer, not including STFU, because that is not an answer):
    What is the significance/function of the little button on top of baseball caps, if any?[/quote]

    Maybe it’s a miniature lightning rod??

  • Matthew S. | May 30, 2007 at 5:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”95084″][quote comment=”95015″][quote comment=”94991″]As long as Delgado wears a Uniform, he is fair game for criticism. And yes, he is a POC for being a hypocritical jerk. Making millions of dollars from MLB, and then criticizing the fans (mostly American) immediately after 9/11 is inexcusable. And until he makes a formal apology, and shows some real support from both America and the soldiers and Marines who died defending his right to be an ass, I will speak out, just as others like Mr. Met and Minna have done.[/quote]

    ummm, is he even a US citizen? BC if not, he has no “obligation” to support anyone but himself. And if he IS a citizen, he still has the right to say whatever he’d like. Thats the beauty of this country….[/quote]

    If he is NOT a citizen, he has no right to criticize the American people or our soldiers while playing AMERICA’S past time and cashing in those millions of American dollars. If he IS a citizen, he is criticizing the very men and women who fight every day for his freedom to sound like an ass.[/quote]

    I’m with previous person on this: soldiers are doing for this country so that we have the freedom to disagree and I fail to see how Carlos Delgado is in the wrong. I don’t share his beliefs, but one of the founding principles of this nation is that notion that we can disagree and not be considered any less of a citizen or indeed a person.

    That being said, this talk reminded me of Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf when he played for the Denver Nuggets. During the national anthem, he would sometimes bow his head and quietly recite an islamic prayer rather than acknowledge the National Anthem.

    Story is halfway down on this page: http://en.wikipedia....

  • Jeff B | May 30, 2007 at 5:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”95056″][quote comment=”94919″]Looks like the Bears are ahead of the game in showing off some of their 2007 season sideline apparel. Their online store has the 2007 preseason coaches cap, the 2007 regular season coaches visor, and the 2007 regular season players visor. the hats usually mimic the visors, so this is a decent preview of what’s “in store” for nfl fans this fall:

    2007 preseason coaches cap:
    http://store.chicago...

    2007 regular season coaches visor:
    http://store.chicago...

    2007 regular season players visor:
    http://store.chicago...

    Are there any other teams that have made their 2007 stuff available yet? I only know that Jacksonville (go Jags!) have not. This stuff is not on NFL.com’s shop, either.[/quote]
    They have a ‘Preseason Cap’? Someone actually gets paid to think up stuff like that![/quote]

    I would much rather this hat. I also love that they show it in “Front” view and “Lovie Smith” view.

  • Shaftman | May 30, 2007 at 5:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”95080″]Now, for a repost (I am going to repost this every day until I get an answer, not including STFU, because that is not an answer):
    What is the significance/function of the little button on top of baseball caps, if any?[/quote]

    According to this trivia site, it is because, “It hides the junction of the seams.”.

  • BStu | May 30, 2007 at 5:43 pm |

    [quote]I would choose the snow white as the alternate since the pin striped uni’s are supposed to represent the 3 original NY teams and were designed with that purpose in mind.[/quote]

    See, I never got that. The uniform memorializes the lost Dodger and Giant franchises AND a team that hasn’t gone anywhere? It never made sense to me to honor a team that still exists. I mean, lets say Boston gets a National League team. It’d be one thing for them to mimic the old Braves uniform, but adopting cues from the Red Sox would seem weird to me. I can live with the pinstripes, but I still prefer the snow-whites.

  • Mike Engle | May 30, 2007 at 6:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”95098″][quote comment=”95080″]Now, for a repost (I am going to repost this every day until I get an answer, not including STFU, because that is not an answer):
    What is the significance/function of the little button on top of baseball caps, if any?[/quote]

    According to this trivia site, it is because, “It hides the junction of the seams.”.[/quote]
    Works for me.

  • BStu | May 30, 2007 at 6:02 pm |

    [quote]If he is NOT a citizen, he has no right to criticize the American people or our soldiers while playing AMERICA’S past time and cashing in those millions of American dollars. If he IS a citizen, he is criticizing the very men and women who fight every day for his freedom to sound like an ass.[/quote]

    Okay, this still isn’t UNI related, even if the man wears a uniform. He wears shoes, too. Do you go to footwear sites to rant about Delgado?

    Aside from that, though, you are completely misrepresenting him. When did he criticize soldiers? How did he attack fans after “immediately” after 9/11? What is the basis for your attack on Delgado? Because what Delgado did was make a private and personal decision not to stand for “God Bless America” in 2004. He did so without even trying to attract attention to himself, but when it was noticed 4 months later he answered honestly that he was protesting the War in Iraq. Not the soldiers. Not the people who died on 9/11. Heck, he’s given money to the victims of 9/11. That he has been so viciously demeaned for such a small and dignified expression of his beliefs speaks very poorly of the state of America.

    Now, for goodness sake, let us all get back to talking about striped hoisary, uniform patches, and vertically arched name plates.

  • diz | May 30, 2007 at 6:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”94775″][quote comment=”94770″][quote comment=”94768″][quote comment=”94761″]Here’s the problem with the Celtic throwback:

    Celtic is one of those ‘classic’ teams that really haven’t done much with their shirts over the last century or so. And sponsorship is to a point where the team can’t even change the number font to match because the league likely has a standard sponsored number kit, and it seems unlikely that a sponsor (who’s forked over a ton of cash) would let the team have logo free shirts.

    The more interesting goalkeeper aspect is that back then goalkeepers could only wear solid yellow, red, or green shirts. Black was for officials.[/quote]

    they could revert to the old number styling for cup/ non league matches.[/quote]

    Good thought. That would also be appropriate since it’s a European Cup winning team that they’re celebrating, so reverting to the old font for those matches would be a clever tribute.[/quote]
    A clever idea would be to wear that old font (on the shirts, however) for Champions League matches this year. The only problem is that Celtic is required to blank out the hoops on their backs for CL Matches.[/quote]

    Yeah, the pizza wedge is HORRID. Before they had to wear shirt numbers domestically, when they were called on to in Europe they would just have them in plain black. Their original domestic shirt numbers were plain green, then in either 1995 or 1996 they adopted the pretty badass green block numbers in a tight white box that were readable for MILES. More recently they’ve stuck with black with white outlining, which is fairly easy to read, making the rule on having a plain background a bit silly. Same with the Milanese sides (white/yellow or gold on red/blue & black over the years)

    [quote comment=”94872″]Also, those 1960 Celtic uniforms did not have numbers on the back. Celtic wore their uniform numbers on their shorts up until the 90s. However, I am not sure if they wore numbers in Europe.[/quote]

    They still wear numbered shorts, even after shirt numbered was forced upon them. It’s more standard now (the old numbered shorts had two huge numbers, one front left and one on the rear of the right leg.) 1994 or 1995 is when they started to make the change. This is from that era, where they went with sleeve numbers as a “will this do?” gesture. The numbering on Paul McStay there seems a bit last minute, perhaps they were trying to avoid a fine…

  • Shaftman | May 30, 2007 at 6:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”95101″][quote]I would choose the snow white as the alternate since the pin striped uni’s are supposed to represent the 3 original NY teams and were designed with that purpose in mind.[/quote]

    See, I never got that. The uniform memorializes the lost Dodger and Giant franchises AND a team that hasn’t gone anywhere? It never made sense to me to honor a team that still exists. I mean, lets say Boston gets a National League team. It’d be one thing for them to mimic the old Braves uniform, but adopting cues from the Red Sox would seem weird to me. I can live with the pinstripes, but I still prefer the snow-whites.[/quote]

    I actually agree with you…I don’t understand why they chose to honor the Yankee’s with pinstripes (or at all for that matter) but the fact is that the blue comes from the Dodgers, the orange from the Giants and the pinstripes from the Yanks. The design and the intent were to honor the NY area teams.

    That being said…I just think that the pinstripe uni’s are better, even though I really do like the snow whites as well. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

    It’s nitpicking…besides, I think if they just got rid of the black uni’s then the uni-verse would be at peace.

  • Joe | May 30, 2007 at 6:32 pm |

    About the use of the batting practice caps and jerseys, I attended to Phillies-Braves series in Atlanta over the weekend. During the pregame batting practice, about half of the Phillies team wore the game cap instead of the batting practice hat ( the 3930 has a blue P, the game cap has a white P, easy to tell the difference). And almost none of the players wore the blue on the road batting practice jersey, they wore these plain red pullovers, no logo, name or numbers. Quite frustrating if you don’t recognize the players by sight. Wonder if it was some purpose to that.

  • Hex | May 30, 2007 at 6:54 pm |

    I really like the accidentally made mets cap with the white outline on the blue brimmed black cap. The regular black cap is boring as far as I’m concerned, but the logo on the blue brimmed version doesn’t stand out well, and doesn’t match the lettering on the black jerseys.

    I don’t think black is going away anytime soon, but they should switch to having only one alternate cap (the mistake version) and that would have the added benefit of hopefully ensuring more gametime for the home cap.

  • Chad G | May 30, 2007 at 6:55 pm |

    Eye black logo creep for Michael Young of the Rangers today in Oakland. Here is the company’s site.

  • goofy119 | May 30, 2007 at 7:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”95079″][quote comment=”94882″]Goofy, while I agree with you about colors being better than dull gray, this question:

    couldn’t MLB come up with different colors for each team

    ..is pretty disturbing. Why should the league decide what colors the individual teams wear? I could easily imagine Selig taking that power for himself; don’t put any ideas in their heads![/quote]
    Haha, Selig would change every team’s colors to navy and red to mimic the Milwaukee Braves. Darn good thing he couldn’t do that to the Pilots/Brewers. Their blue and yellow looks amazing![/quote]

    My thought was that since the clubs were just copying from each other these days, a “uniform policeman” should be appointed from the league to be a middle man between the league and the clubs. This middle man would look at the new design and then look at current designs of the other clubs and make sure nothing looked similar, so to help keep uniform/team colors more unique.
    When the NFL Cardinals moved from St. Louis to Arizona, there were articles on how Cardinal Red was different than normal red. Seeing it, Cardinal Red was a different color of red than any other team. Why can’t the MLB baseball clubs do this?

    Watch a Astros vs D-Backs game, they are the exact same colors. Once again, this is 2007 and they should be better than that.

    I am not asking for pink or neon green, but I would like to see more light blue, maroon, even light purple.
    Colorado Rockies are you listening? Ditch the black/gray for light purple. Do away with the gray and the black away/alt unis.
    These clubs are worth millions and millions of dollars to be their own unique baseball club, do really have to copy each other?
    When the D-Backs were redesigning their colors and uniforms, did it ever occur to them to see if another team was using the colors? Obliviously not, which is why I think a middle man is needed. Basically the teams can nto uniform police themselves.

  • Eric | May 30, 2007 at 7:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”95066″]I’m surprised the Orioles still have the ‘Orioles’ on both home and away. Most teams have their respective city/state on their aways. Speaking of having a state name on your jersey as a team name, why can’t Arizona be Phoenix. Florida should be Miami. Anaheim was California. Texas? hm, don’t know.[/quote]

    As a Phoenix AREA resident, I don’t mind the “Arizona” tag to the teams. Arizona will never have major league teams outside of the Phoenix area, and as such, the Dbacks and Cardinals prefer to market to the entire region and state.
    As a resident of the eastern suburbs in Maricopa County, the bulk of Phoenix only conjures up images from the TV news of Crack houses, prostitution, gang violence, Illegal immigrant drop houses with 80 people stuffed inside, etc. Phoenix is a HUGE city area wise, but most of the nicer areas are on the fringes and prefer to be known by their neighborhood names to distance themselves from the actual city itself.

    As for sports, the Arizona Cardinals started out as the “Phoenix Cardinals”, but have never played in Phoenix, having played in Tempe (where their practice facility/offices remain) and currently in Glendale. Phoenix Coyotes no longer play in Phoenix, having moved next door to the Cardinals Stadium in suburban Glendale. I recall reading about a possible change to “Arizona Coyotes”, and even “glendale coyotes” but that would be STUPID, seeing as how the immediate reaction of 90% of the country would be Glendale California?

  • Jeff B | May 30, 2007 at 7:29 pm |

    I’d like to take this opportunity to express my affinity toward the collar on the Jazz unis. I like that it is a V neck, but the piping I guess around it doesn’t stay a consitatnt thickness.

  • schuby | May 30, 2007 at 7:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”95146″][quote comment=”95079″][quote comment=”94882″]Goofy, while I agree with you about colors being better than dull gray, this question:

    couldn’t MLB come up with different colors for each team

    ..is pretty disturbing. Why should the league decide what colors the individual teams wear? I could easily imagine Selig taking that power for himself; don’t put any ideas in their heads![/quote]
    Haha, Selig would change every team’s colors to navy and red to mimic the Milwaukee Braves. Darn good thing he couldn’t do that to the Pilots/Brewers. Their blue and yellow looks amazing![/quote]

    My thought was that since the clubs were just copying from each other these days, a “uniform policeman” should be appointed from the league to be a middle man between the league and the clubs. This middle man would look at the new design and then look at current designs of the other clubs and make sure nothing looked similar, so to help keep uniform/team colors more unique.
    When the NFL Cardinals moved from St. Louis to Arizona, there were articles on how Cardinal Red was different than normal red. Seeing it, Cardinal Red was a different color of red than any other team. Why can’t the MLB baseball clubs do this?

    Watch a Astros vs D-Backs game, they are the exact same colors. Once again, this is 2007 and they should be better than that.

    I am not asking for pink or neon green, but I would like to see more light blue, maroon, even light purple.
    Colorado Rockies are you listening? Ditch the black/gray for light purple. Do away with the gray and the black away/alt unis.
    These clubs are worth millions and millions of dollars to be their own unique baseball club, do really have to copy each other?
    When the D-Backs were redesigning their colors and uniforms, did it ever occur to them to see if another team was using the colors? Obliviously not, which is why I think a middle man is needed. Basically the teams can nto uniform police themselves.[/quote]

    Once again, they are similar. The Astros is more of a brick red, while Arizona’s is Sedona red. The astros are darker than the D-backs.

  • Dave A | May 30, 2007 at 7:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”94903″][quote comment=”94901″][quote comment=”94877″]please tell me that im not the only one who when hearing the name,
    Derek Turnbow
    i think
    Chief Jay Turnbow[/quote]

    For the unenlightened, who is Chief Jay Turnbow?[/quote]

    Old school wrestler Chief Jay Strongbow; I guess Turnbow sounding very similar to Strongbow evokes memories of the Chief and his War Dance in some people.[/quote]

    Thanks. Strongbow I know…I just thought I was missing something.

  • Savannah K | May 30, 2007 at 7:58 pm |

    Regarding the Celtic FC unis, I’m totally unfamiliar with their history, but has their logo always been a 4-leaf clover and not a true Irish 3-leaf shamrock?

  • Chad G | May 30, 2007 at 8:24 pm |

    Barry Zito seems to be missing the orange button from the top of his cap tonight. It’s hard to tell from that picture, but hopefully there will be a better one later.

  • Dave A | May 30, 2007 at 8:33 pm |

    California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper posing with Ducks and Senators jerseys with their names on the back.

    For those wondering, I saw the back of the Schwarzenegger jersey on the evening news and no radial or vertical arching as you might expect. The name was straight across the back. Can’t find pics online yet.

  • BStu | May 30, 2007 at 8:45 pm |

    Am I the only person who likes that the Orioles don’t put “Baltimore” on their road uniforms? I’m not saying I’m opposed to them using “Baltimore”. I actually love their old “Baltimore” road uni’s. But I like the unique quality of sticking with their team nickname instead of the “team name”. Its different. Its tradition. They’ve been Baltimore-less for what? 37 seasons? Plus it was on their original uniforms their first two years. So that’s 39 years of “Orioles” on the road and only 15 years with “Baltimore”. That doesn’t even mention that going back to the St. Louis Browns who had “Browns” on their road unis for 6 years near the end of the franchise’s time in St. Louis.

  • Frank | May 30, 2007 at 9:18 pm |

    Milwaukee: This team has been back and forth, but did wear “Milwaukee” from ‘78 to ‘94, and I’ve alwys thought they should go back to previous unis anyway–but the case is there that this team has established classic unifroms that do it the right way (or at least the traditional way).

    Not that I’m thriled with with their current uniforms, but while the old “mb” glove logo Brewers unis seems nice to see as a alternate, I do remember being happy to see them go as being pretty boring and outdated when they did in 1994. Four or five years of the that uniform style. I think that same feeling would come back…

    And as an O’s fan, yeah, for Gawd’s sake can we get Baltimore on the road unis?

  • Bill T. | May 30, 2007 at 9:24 pm |

    Carlos Gomez tonight: wearing an accurate black/blue cap.

  • Frank | May 30, 2007 at 9:28 pm |

    They’ve been Baltimore-less for what? 37 seasons? Plus it was on their original uniforms their first two years

    Granted. But it wasn’t until the Senators moved out of DC when they changed to the Orioles on the road “for good”. Don’t quote me, but I believe that change was based on tapping the DC market. With the Nats now in DC and perhaps as much of need as ever to have a Baltimore idenity and not worry about a regional one, this is a first step. Plus those 60’s road uni’s did look nice I must say.

  • Robert | May 30, 2007 at 9:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”95078″][quote comment=”94751″]Seeing the ballgirl in the Cubs video reminds me of the greatest ballgirl of all time, the great Marla Collins. I would watch Cubs games in the 1980s just to see her.

    http://ignarski.trip...

    Is she the one that took OFF her uniform for Playboy?[/quote]

    Yep, September, 1986, for those who are wondering.

  • Ken L | May 30, 2007 at 10:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”94754″]

    Re lax finals: Hopkins’ blue unis also have the Swoosh under the collar, but in a less obvious white. the helmet logo really bothered me, as the coaching staff’s shirts and all other JHU logos were the stylized BlueJay logo. And both teams (Duke and JHU) wore black warmup shirts. also, UNC wore socks with the interlocking UNC logo when they lost to Duke.[/quote]

    I’ve only ever seen the stylized Blue Jay until this past weekend. Hmm…

  • S Dot | May 30, 2007 at 10:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”94964″][quote comment=”94926″]During the Yankees – Blue Jays game last night Johnny Damon was wearing regular running shoes instead of cleats. Early on in the game he was on first and kept losing his grip on the dirt as he took his leads. The YES announcers made some comments about it and they showed some closeups of his shoes. Has he always done this?[/quote]

    I heard that too.

    I think they were also saying that he only did that for better support for his calves. Did you see how he was trying to get a bigger lead onto the astroturf, so he could get a better jump?[/quote]

    We played in the International Bowl at Skydome/Rogers center in January. I dont know if they use the same turf for baseball as they did for our game, but the grip was terrible in anything besides turf shoes. Cleats didnt really do much to improve grip since the turf was so matted down. That might explain why Damon went without spikes.

  • Matthew S. | May 30, 2007 at 10:32 pm |

    In the 8th inning of the Reds-Astros game, Lance Berkman was wearing a Cool Flo helmet. First time I’ve ever seen him wear one. I don’t think he was even wearing it in his first two at bats of the game. The only other Astro to wear a Cool Flo was Aubrey Huff during his brief time with the team last year.

  • RefUni | May 30, 2007 at 10:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”95177″]California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper posing with Ducks and Senators jerseys with their names on the back.

    For those wondering, I saw the back of the Schwarzenegger jersey on the evening news and no radial or vertical arching as you might expect. The name was straight across the back. Can’t find pics online yet.[/quote]

    The Senators don’t arch their lettering, so I don’t know why you’d expect that…

  • ja | May 30, 2007 at 11:03 pm |

    watching m’s and angels right now…kenji johjima catching for seattle and mike napoli for the halos–both with the old billy goat chin protectors hanging from the mask (napoli even has the angels ‘A’ logo on his)…when is the last time that two catchers in the same game had the billy goats? a tool from the past. looks great though!

  • Go Cyclones! | May 30, 2007 at 11:37 pm |

    sorry if this is a repeat of a previous comment, did a quick scroll through tonight:

    BirdBats (site Paul linked to a week or so ago) has pointed out that with Molina on the DL and Brian Esposito called up, the team is now down to FOUR available numbers.

    “May 30 , 2007. Brian Esposito, called up from AAA to replace Molina on the roster, is wearing #35. With all the player movement this season, numbers are beginning to run low. When you remove the retired numbers, the quasi-retired numbers (25, 51 and 57) and the digits “reserved” for former players who are injured or in AAA (30 for Mulder, 49 for Ankiel, 52 for Kinney, 53 for Rodriguez and likely 60 for Narveson), you’re left with 13 (last worn by Vizcaino in ’06), 19 (Perez in ’06) and 33 (Bigbie in ’06). After that, the first available number is 62.”

  • Joey Guns | May 30, 2007 at 11:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”95175″]Barry Zito seems to be missing the orange button from the top of his cap tonight. It’s hard to tell from that picture, but hopefully there will be a better one later.[/quote]

    Someone mentioned that a few weeks ago, but Paul displayed pics like this (from 5/18/07), where the orange button is obviously there………hmmmmmmm A mystery

    http://sports.yahoo....

  • schuby | May 30, 2007 at 11:53 pm |

    Paul has a small article about socks with individual toes on Page 2.

  • Josh | May 31, 2007 at 12:49 am |

    [quote comment=”94821″]

    on my niketalk.com website… [/quote]

    Are you Method Man, Todd?

  • Pedro | May 31, 2007 at 8:00 am |

    I emailed the Mets recently to ask why they wear the road caps at home so often. The response I received was that they “try to mix up the uniforms as best as possible”. I agree that they rotate the jerseys pretty well, but they wear the black and blue caps way more than the others…and as a longtime Mets fan, it drives me nuts.

  • bx- | May 31, 2007 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”94960″][quote comment=”94876″]Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but the Cubs’ Jason Marquis doesn’t use a “Q” in his last name on his jersey, but instead an “O”. I can’t seem to dig up any photos from last night, but I was able to pause the TiVo and take a pretty close look, and it doesn’t really look like there’s anything at all coming off the “O” like there was in StL.[/quote]

    It looks like an O, but its really a Q

    http://www.wrigleyvi...

    Definately not what he was wearing last night, I’ll keep digging for a link…