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Let Us Now Praise Famous Men Uniforms

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For years — long before I came up with the idea for Uni Watch — my favorite spot at the Baseball Hall of Fame was the third floor, where they had a big display of old uniforms. The bad news is that reader Jay Braiman tells me that the third floor has been renovated and that the uni display is no longer there; the good news is that he found a bunch of photos of the display, which he took during a visit to Cooperstown back in 2001. Let’s take a look:

• Great view here of the Angels’ old halo-topped cap.

• Here’s the old Seattle Pilots uniform from 1969. Note that the sleeve stripes also showed up on the 1970 Brewers jersey — that’s because the franchise’s move to Milwaukee wasn’t a done deal until just a few days before the start of the 1970 season, and they just removed the Pilots insignia from the old uniforms and replaced them with a hastily devised Brewers insignia. (Also in that last photo: Dig the striped A’s stirrups!)

• You’ve seen this one a jillion times, but the colors really pop in this photo. I still prefer this design, however.

• I’ve always loved the White Sox road design shown here. And speaking of the Sox, check out the logo-emblazoned stirrups in this photo — sox on sox!

• Still more Chisoxiana: Whenever someone refers to the White Sox wearing shorts for one game in 1976, the photos that usually show up are this, this, and this. But if you look at this shot of the Cooperstown display, you’ll see another photo of a shorts-clad Sox player.

• Two 1970s classics here: the Reds’ St. Paddy’s Day design from 1978 (first time a team did that), and the Phillies’ ill-fated solid-burgundy uniform, which was worn exactly once, on May 19, 1979.

• Great view here of the Braves’ experimental reflective satin uniform, worn for night games in 1948. (Also: Note the great Phillies road uni, White Sox stirrups, zip-front Cubs jersey, and Indians cap.)

• Tons of great stuff here — I’ll let it speak for itself.

• I can remember the first time I saw the catalog page with the little uniform swatches shown at the left side of this photo. “Man,” I thought, “I sure would love to have some catalogs like that!” Now, of course, I do.

• Sigh.

• Real oddity here: a special jersey prepared for a Casey Stengel tribute day at Yankee Stadium. (Gaylord Perry once wore something similar, although I’m unsure of when that photo was taken — maybe at his Hall of Fame induction?)

Special thanks to Jay for the pics, and for the stroll down Cooperstown’s memory lane. Here’s hoping they restore the uni exhibit soon.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Genuinely hilarious video commentary about black uniforms here, complete with references to the Nazis, Mafia funerals, and Nike’s child-labor practices. Essential viewing. … Great article here about Barry Bonds and his earring (with thanks to Jameson Costello). … Small item in Saturday’s Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (as forwarded by Shaun Schnur): “The [Pitt] athletic department has made some subtle changes to the Panthers’ uniforms, and they will be unveiled later this summer. The biggest change will be a return to blue pants for certain games.” … Speaking of new college football uniforms, here’s Michigan State’s new design. Too bad about the logo above the nameplate, but overall these look solid. Further details and pics here. … Unfortunate news out of St. Looie, as Anthony Reyes and his striped stirrups have been sent to the minors. … Meanwhile, Jose Reyes has been hitting without batting gloves lately. … Good article here about the Phillies’ uniform numbers (with thanks to Marc Malfara and Bernie Langer, among many others). … Miguel Cabrera has unveiled a pair of predominantly white shoes. … Cabrera is also one of several Marlins who wore rather war paint-ish eye black on Sunday. … The Twins and Blue Jays both wore military caps on Sunday. I had read that the Jays’ caps would honor the Canadian military, but it looks like they were wearing the same caps as the Twins. … Even weirder: Can someone explain why the Jays wore American flag cap patches while playing in Toronto yesterday? … More Memorial Day cap patch observations: Some players had them in front of the ear, others had them riding a bit high, and the Royals had them on the wrong side. … We’ve all seen still photos of the White Sox wearing shorts (like the ones in today’s main entry, above). But the only video footage I’ve ever seen — momentary but very worthwhile — can be found at the 44-second mark of this video (great find by Johnny Garfield) … Obligatory Serena Williams comment: What’s with the bustle? … Meanwhile, did you notice that her first-round opponent, Tsvetana Pironkova, paired an Adidas shirt and shoes with a Nike visor? … For years Johnny Estrada has worn real stirrups. But David Arnott recently snapped a photo of Estrada wearing total phonies — boooooo! Further details on this observation, and several others (including Tony Gwynn Jr. saying he won’t wear the new BP cap style because “It sucks!”), in this installment of Arnott’s blog. … Terry Mark recently attended a single-A game between the South Bend Silver Hawks and the Dayton Dragons, and filed this report: “Hawks first baseman Brad Miller had a Hawks logo patch on his left sleeve, while the rest of his teammates wore the patch on the right sleeve. Also: The back of the Dragons’ jerseys are pretty busy, while the Hawks by comparison are much simpler (but the yellow numbers are hard to read from a distance). Every Dragons player and coach wore high cuffs, because the Dragons are a Reds farm team.” … Speaking of Reds minor league clubs, Matthew Lepke was at Sunday’s Louisville Bats game and got this photo of pitching coach Ted Power and starter Tom Shearn displaying disparate stirrup styles. He also noted that Buffalo Bisons LF Brad Snyder had a badly torn pant leg (additional pics here and here. … If you go to this page and click on “Game 6 Highlights” (right side of the page), you’ll see video of the really awful black jerseys that the North Carolina baseball team recently wore (with thanks to Brett Gray). … Longtime contribtor Kevin Gee has noticed something really interesting about Roger Clemens: Check out the little belt-mounted gizmo he’s wearing here, here, here, and here. I find it hard to believe that the Rocket could have diabetes and manage to keep it secret, so I doubt that the device is an insulin pump (like Jason Johnson used to wear). So what is it — heart-rate monitor? Cyborg control panel? … Blast from the televisual past from Jacob Bestebroer, who made some observations while watching old episodes of The White Shadow: “I’ve attached a few pictures from an episode that ran during the show’s first season, 1978-79,” he writes. “I was surprised to see that they are wearing Nike shoes. Where was Nike as a company at that time? Also, I’ve attached a photo from the opening sequence that shows the coach in the show during his time with the Chicago Bulls. I’m wondering if the Bulls actually ever wore that uniform.” I’ll let the rest of you address those queries, because I’m too busy blissing out over the striped socks. … Reprinted from Sunday’s comments: Trevor Hoffman is archiving his gear, because “Each time I save one, it’s a new record,” a line that really scales new heights in chutzpah. … Michael Fritzlar sent me this article about Tomo Ohka turning on several of the Blue Jays to the pleasures of toe socks (just as Daisuke Matsuzaka and Hideki Okajima have done with the Red Sox) and then cracked me up with the following: “A.J. Burnett referring to his toes as ‘guys’ [as in ‘I’ve got these shower shoes with this strap that separates the big toe from the other guys’] is nothing new. Between innings on the Jumbotron (do they still call them that anymore?) at Skydome (I know they don’t call it that anymore), A.J. was being interviewed by a 12-year-old girl who asked him, ‘How long have you been playing baseball?’ A.J. quickly says, ‘Since the age of seven’ and then attempts to do the difficult algorithm of subtracting seven from his current age. You could almost smell the fire burning: ‘I guess for 15, 18, uh, 20 years or so?’ 20 + 7 = 27. A.J. is 31 years old this year. So A.J.’s new fetish for toe socks makes sense, because he needs to see his ‘guys’ so he can use his fingers and ‘guys’ to subtract the number of projected wins someone with his talent should be producing (20) and his actual output of wins (14). His ‘guys’ can also count his stints on the DL, how many days J.P has left as G.M., and the number of creepy facial hair looks with which he has scared children at Skydome (4). I just hope he doesn’t attempt to figure out the exchange rate between American and Canadian dollars — that would surely result in another trip on the DL. I wonder if he has names for his ‘guys,’ but I digress.” … Julian Tavarez had shirt tag issues on Sunday. … Kudos to Dave Shucosky, who found this photo of, as he put it, “Huston Street wearing more ribbons than a five-star general.” … The Washington Huskies hoops team will join Nike’s System of Dress program next season. Further details in the second item on this page (with thanks to Jon Horton). … Where’s that Velcro patch when you need it? … Kaz Matsui’s purple batting gloves look so much like grape candy, I almost want to lick them. … Anyone know what’s on Cliff Floyd’s undershirt? … Ken Tobler reports that Dennys Reyes’s nickname is “Big Sweat,” and he has it embroidered on his glove. … Late-breaking contribution from Jamie Costello, who got some screen grabs of Kentucky Derby jockeys wearing lots and lots of goggles.

 

212 comments to Let Us Now Praise Famous Men Uniforms

  • Steve | May 29, 2007 at 8:22 am |

    Here’s a link regarding the new Pitt unis.

  • Matt B | May 29, 2007 at 8:25 am |

    Speaking of museums, the Franklin Institute (a Science Museum) here in Philadelphia has a phyisics-of-sports exhibit, complete with unis for some local teams. PL will be pleased to know that the Phillies kit on display has the Liberty Bell stirrups. Does this mean they’re part of the official uniform? I know Jamie Moyer wears them but I don’t know if anyone else even shows sock.

  • Ed | May 29, 2007 at 8:25 am |

    As for why Toronto was wearing US flags on their caps…Memorial Day is a US holiday; Canadians honor their military dead on 11 November as Remembrance Day (Veteran’s Day in the US).

    ed

  • Jeremy | May 29, 2007 at 8:27 am |

    i went to the lexington legends (class a) baseball game last night and the legends were wearing their regular style jerseys except they had an american flag pattern for their sleeves and red numbers (the legends colors are blue and green) in honor of memorial day. i am still efforting a pic.

  • Chip Bell | May 29, 2007 at 8:27 am |

    The Twins and Blue Jays both wore military caps on Sunday. I had read that the Jays’ caps would honor the Canadian military, but it looks like they were wearing the same caps as the Twins

    The Twins and Jays military caps looked identical, except for the Canadian flag on the side of the Jays caps.

  • Jason | May 29, 2007 at 8:28 am |

    I’m pretty sure Gaylord Perry wore that uniform for some MLB sponsored old-timers game. I can’t remember if it took place during the All-Star break, or Hall of Fame induction, but I remember seeing it on tv. I could be wrong though, of course.

  • Miguel | May 29, 2007 at 8:36 am |

    I know he’s not taking the same stuff as the Rocket, but it looks like Pete Sampras has kind of let himself go.

  • dirwuf | May 29, 2007 at 8:48 am |

    Regarding whether the Bulls really did wear those “White Shadow” unis, the answer is yes, for most of the mid to late 70’s. Check out…
    http://www.geocities...

  • Brady | May 29, 2007 at 8:49 am |

    Genuinely hilarious video commentary about black uniforms here, complete with references to the Nazis, Mafia funerals, and Nike’s child-labor practices. Essential viewing. …

    I still think that NIKE is rolling out BLACK ELITE jerseys for all of its major college clients (seems like North Crolina has been hit with it also from the comment section) and we will see more of these in the coming weeks (Regionals, Super Regionals, WCWS).

  • Brady | May 29, 2007 at 8:49 am |

    Sorry, that should be CWS not WCWS…

  • James P. | May 29, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    [quote comment=”94109″]I’m pretty sure Gaylord Perry wore that uniform for some MLB sponsored old-timers game. I can’t remember if it took place during the All-Star break, or Hall of Fame induction, but I remember seeing it on tv. I could be wrong though, of course.[/quote]

    I believe he wore it for the Old-timer’s game at the All-Star Game back in the early 90s (1992?).

  • Matt D. | May 29, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    I took my son to the uniform display in the summer of ’05. It’s irritating that it’s not there for the time being (it definitely will be back in some form, like the gorgeous new ballpark room).

    I definitely have seen that picutre before. It’s coach Jim Rivera modeling the shorts before the season (He’s the same guy dancing like a crazy man after the Sox won the pennant in ’59 in the video mentioned above, too).
    I want to say that I saw the pic in a Sox history book, but maybe all of the trips to Cooperstown as a kid are blending in my mind (It’s a fantastic thing to never live more than 2 hours from baseball heaven).

  • Chi-town Joe | May 29, 2007 at 8:55 am |

    Cliff Floyd has been wearing that same undershirt for at least a week straight. I hope it gets washed. Here and here Could it be a championship shirt of some type?

  • Matt D. | May 29, 2007 at 8:56 am |

    Between the all-red Indians uniform, the White Sox shorts, and the Pirates’ yellow stripes, it just goes to show how BAD uniforms were in the 70’s.

  • Robert | May 29, 2007 at 8:58 am |

    [quote comment=”94109″]I’m pretty sure Gaylord Perry wore that uniform for some MLB sponsored old-timers game. I can’t remember if it took place during the All-Star break, or Hall of Fame induction, but I remember seeing it on tv. I could be wrong though, of course.[/quote]

    Yep, Gaylord Perry wore that busy jersey at multiple old-timers games.

  • Murphy | May 29, 2007 at 9:09 am |

    I watched a small bit of a UNC/Wake Forest game this past weekend and thought the UNC uniforms looked awful. They were a sleep inducing combo of gray and carolina blue: Gray hats with a blue visor, shiny blue shirts and gray pants. It was difficult to tell the difference between the blue and gray even in close-ups and the jerseys looked like they were purchased in the Ladies Sleepware department at Sears.

  • Erik | May 29, 2007 at 9:10 am |

    figured I’d post this for all of you to see. I whipped up a website showing all soccer (football) uniform changes for the upcoming year.
    http://www.freewebs....

  • Josh | May 29, 2007 at 9:15 am |

    Regarding Sampras, I watched him play a few weeks ago, and I am pretty sure he could be a top 5 player on the tour right now.

  • anthony | May 29, 2007 at 9:17 am |

    How can major league baseball have a “hall of fame” and NOT have a uniform display?

  • Cathy | May 29, 2007 at 9:22 am |

    [quote comment=”94134″]figured I’d post this for all of you to see. I whipped up a website showing all soccer (football) uniform changes for the upcoming year.
    http://www.freewebs....

    Thanks Erik, I’m a huge soccer fan and love the site. I agree that Man City’s new unis are tops. But, is that REALLY Chelsea’s new home jersey??? The florescent yellow/green? It looks like a keepers jersey.

  • xyz | May 29, 2007 at 9:22 am |

    It is my understanding that Nike started making basketball shoes in the mid 70’s. In fact, due to their close proximity to Portland (Beaverton is HQ for Swooshville) their famous ‘Blazer’ sneaker was inspired by/for the Portland Trail’Blazers’. (Recently, the Blazers have been reissued in a variety of color and fabric/leather combinations by Nike.)This hi top, all leather sneaker had a lo top companion called the ‘Bruin’. Nikes’ next generation basketball sneaker was called the ‘Franchise'(both hi and lo top versions were available). The franchise was most famously worn by George Iceman Gervin in the infamous Nike poster ‘The Iceman’. The franchise was a bit more rounded in the toe than the Blazer and had numerous but slight stylistic variations (gum sole bottoms, suede toe cap, no toe cap, leather toe cap, etc.). Here is where things got a little confusing as far as I remember. I believe the next shoes were called the ‘Legend’, an all leather sneaker that had a series of holes perforated on the toe and was a generally heftier version of the Franchise and the ‘Dynasty’, a hybrid sneaker made of suede and mesh. The ‘Legend’ was worn by Darrell Dr. Dunkenstein Griffith (in another infamous Nike poster, “Dr. Dunkenstein’ and with the Utah Jazz) and the early Ewing led Georgetown Hoyas. The ‘Dynasty’ shoe was worn by the Phi Slamma Jamma great Clyde Drexler, Larry Micheaux, etc. (Akeem wore Adidas.) Next came the ‘Air Force 1’ a.k.a. ‘Uptowns’that started the explosion into ‘Air Jordans’, ‘Dunks’, etc. The Air Force 1 was orginally made in white leather with silver trim and had the matching silver velcro strap across the ankle.

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 29, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    Heluvan interesting grip on the ball from Kim in the photo that Paul linked on the big page.

    Anyone with a tip on what kind of pitch he’s throwing there? Results of backyard testing to follow…

  • Stuby | May 29, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    [quote comment=”94124″]Between the all-red Indians uniform, the White Sox shorts, and the Pirates’ yellow stripes, it just goes to show how BAD uniforms were in the 70’s.[/quote]
    Most teams, except for the Yanks & Dodgers kind of lost their minds in the 70s. Even the Red Sox had the pullover jersey and the stretchy waistband.
    I look back on it now with nostalgia because thats what I was raised on. I’m a Giants fan and I preferred the 70s unis to the ‘retro’ unis they wore from 1983-1993.

  • Mark in Shiga | May 29, 2007 at 9:24 am |

    Looking at this minor league photo, it reminds me of how minor-league jerseys seem to have the little “minor leagues” logo several inches below the collar, instead of right on it like the big-league clubs do. Anyone know why this is?

    (And could they please get rid of it? Yet another thing cluttering up otherwise nice-looking jerseys.

  • Stuby | May 29, 2007 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment=”94124″]Between the all-red Indians uniform, the White Sox shorts, and the Pirates’ yellow stripes, it just goes to show how BAD uniforms were in the 70’s.[/quote]
    Yep, most teams kind of lost their minds in the 70s. I do look back on those unis with a sense of nostalgia because they were what I was raised on.

  • Seth H | May 29, 2007 at 9:26 am |

    The Marlins radio announcers discussed Cabrera’s shoes on Sunday. The lead announcer said they looked like someone had started with the A’s old white shoes and then gone to town.

    The same announcer also said the following (in paraphrase): “Miguel wearing his pants up today. Some people say he is wearing his socks up, but ballplayers wear their socks that way everyday. So it is incorrect to say that. He is wearing his pants legs up high.”

    Excellent analysis. I just wish I knew who the broadcaster was. (Listening to the game on XM while away from NY because I wanted to hear the Mets game.)

  • Patrick | May 29, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    I was at the Phillies/Diamondbacks last night and I have to say that the “Dbacks” uniform just isn’t working. For starters, their red BP jersey look too much like the Astros so much to the point that I was borderline confused as to who the Phils were playing. My wife, a baseball amatuer if there ever was once, wasn’t buying the Dbacks either…she referred to them as the DBags all night. On a positive note, I did pick up this sweet 1948 Phillies throwback hat.

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

  • Joey Guns | May 29, 2007 at 9:29 am |

    [quote comment=”94138″]How can major league baseball have a “hall of fame” and NOT have a uniform display?[/quote]

    Very simple. They don’t “get it”.

  • diz | May 29, 2007 at 9:37 am |

    [quote comment=”94142″][quote comment=”94134″]figured I’d post this for all of you to see. I whipped up a website showing all soccer (football) uniform changes for the upcoming year.
    http://www.freewebs....

    Thanks Erik, I’m a huge soccer fan and love the site. I agree that Man City’s new unis are tops. But, is that REALLY Chelsea’s new home jersey??? The florescent yellow/green? It looks like a keepers jersey.[/quote]

    looks like it’s been mislabelled on the site. I’d say that might be a third shirt there, rather than home…

  • Wade | May 29, 2007 at 9:44 am |

    I like the new Michigan State uniforms except for the low riding name on the front of the jersey. It looks like it is almost sitting on top of the numbers.

  • junkland | May 29, 2007 at 9:45 am |

    RE: Clifford Floyd- I was watching the Dodgers-Cubs game on TV over the weekend. Floyd had the top two buttons undone so there was a lot of flappage. ANYWAYS, to the left of that red and yellow logo on that gray undershirt, there is a WHITE SWOOSH.

    RE: B.K. Kim- What kind of grip is that on the baseball? His index finger is completely off the ball. Some sort of change-up?

  • Robert | May 29, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”94150″][quote comment=”94124″]Between the all-red Indians uniform, the White Sox shorts, and the Pirates’ yellow stripes, it just goes to show how BAD uniforms were in the 70’s.[/quote]
    Yep, most teams kind of lost their minds in the 70s. I do look back on those unis with a sense of nostalgia because they were what I was raised on.[/quote]

    Well put. I would throw a fit if teams these days started trotting out red-over-red uniforms or anything like what the Astros used to wear. However, I look back on those old looks with fondness, if for no other reason than that I thought that they were seriously cool when I was ten years old.

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 29, 2007 at 9:51 am |

    I think Jose Reyes gave his batting gloves to Coco Crisp, who has gone without in the past, but has been sporting a pair for the last couple of weeks. No pictures of him with gloves yet, but trust me — I have an inside source in Battle Creek, MI. Plus, I saw it on TV, so it must be true.

    Aside from the torn pant leg, note that the American flag is worn backwards by Brad Snyder as well. I’ll give them credit, though, for getting the right country’s flag on there because that town is, like, Canada South, eh? Seriously Buffalo, don’t sick the Buffaslug on me. I’ll go wide right on you Scott Norwood-style.

    Just kidding, you crazy Buffalonians. Being from Cleveland, we know about heartbreak

  • Fredo Corleone | May 29, 2007 at 9:53 am |

    Maybe I watched it too many times raising my kids…but this reminds me a lot of this

  • Smail | May 29, 2007 at 9:59 am |

    As I’m sure many of you have noticed, one size fits all/Flex-Fit hats have been becoming more and more popular, at the expense of traditional, fitted caps. I’ve seen the 5950 surgery posted here, but has anybody ever attempted removing the elastic from the inside of the sweatband ont these Flex-Fit hats? And if so, were you left with anything wearable?

  • mark | May 29, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
    pic

    more pictures

    why don’t softball players wear hats?

  • Smail | May 29, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment=”94173″]As I’m sure many of you have noticed, one size fits all/Flex-Fit hats have been becoming more and more popular, at the expense of traditional, fitted caps. I’ve seen the 5950 surgery posted here, but has anybody ever attempted removing the elastic from the inside of the sweatband ont these Flex-Fit hats? And if so, were you left with anything wearable?[/quote]

    that should say “of one of these”

  • Shaftman | May 29, 2007 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”94174″]i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
    pic

    more pictures

    why don’t softball players wear hats?[/quote]

    This is just a guess…but maybe their pony tails get in the way.

  • interlockingtc | May 29, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    I’ve never been to the Baseball Hall of Fame. As a kid, had I entered that room displaying the uniforms, I may never have left. Heaven.

    Where are their priorities? Get those uniforms back up. Immediately.

  • Stuby | May 29, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”94178″][quote comment=”94174″]i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
    pic

    more pictures

    why don’t softball players wear hats?[/quote]

    This is just a guess…but maybe their pony tails get in the way.[/quote]
    I’ve seen a few wear visors, but its definitely not ‘uniform’.

  • Ian K | May 29, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    Regarding the Mets uniform in this photo, is the outlining of “Mets” in red, or a very dark orange? It doesn’t look like it matches the orange on the cap or the orange in 2007’s uniforms.

  • Boston Nick | May 29, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    As a big fan of the purple-black combo (my high school actually wore purple, and it just looked better for us with black), I love Kaz Matsui’s batting gloves.

    Of course, I don’t necessarily love the Rockies’ unis (much like the Pirates…ugly is ugly even if the colors are nice), but I’m definitely one of those guys who strongly disagrees with Paul’s views on purple.

  • douglas | May 29, 2007 at 10:12 am |

    inter, city, deutschland : wow!
    what’s wrong with adidas questionmark template? it seems like umbro got some inspiration from wnba motif jerseys but enoughly sober to make it work.
    Inter sponsor really deserves credits for minimizing its space on the jersey and not spoiling it (everybody knows it’s been pirelli since forever so no real need to anyway).
    Great page Erik! very good work!

  • todd krevanchi | May 29, 2007 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”94117″]Regarding whether the Bulls really did wear those “White Shadow” unis, the answer is yes, for most of the mid to late 70’s. Check out…
    http://www.geocities...

    and later than that…
    http://espn.go.com/i...

    [quote comment=”94143″]It is my understanding that Nike started making basketball shoes in the mid 70’s. In fact, due to their close proximity to Portland (Beaverton is HQ for Swooshville) their famous ‘Blazer’ sneaker was inspired by/for the Portland Trail’Blazers’. (Recently, the Blazers have been reissued in a variety of color and fabric/leather combinations by Nike.)This hi top, all leather sneaker had a lo top companion called the ‘Bruin’. Nikes’ next generation basketball sneaker was called the ‘Franchise'(both hi and lo top versions were available). The franchise was most famously worn by George Iceman Gervin in the infamous Nike poster ‘The Iceman’. The franchise was a bit more rounded in the toe than the Blazer and had numerous but slight stylistic variations (gum sole bottoms, suede toe cap, no toe cap, leather toe cap, etc.). Here is where things got a little confusing as far as I remember. I believe the next shoes were called the ‘Legend’, an all leather sneaker that had a series of holes perforated on the toe and was a generally heftier version of the Franchise and the ‘Dynasty’, a hybrid sneaker made of suede and mesh. The ‘Legend’ was worn by Darrell Dr. Dunkenstein Griffith (in another infamous Nike poster, “Dr. Dunkenstein’ and with the Utah Jazz) and the early Ewing led Georgetown Hoyas. The ‘Dynasty’ shoe was worn by the Phi Slamma Jamma great Clyde Drexler, Larry Micheaux, etc. (Akeem wore Adidas.) Next came the ‘Air Force 1’ a.k.a. ‘Uptowns’that started the explosion into ‘Air Jordans’, ‘Dunks’, etc. The Air Force 1 was orginally made in white leather with silver trim and had the matching silver velcro strap across the ankle.[/quote]

    great mini history xyz… much more detailed than what i had planned…
    nike originally operated under the name blue ribbon sports, when it imported onitsuka tigers (now asics, in the model of the current cortez) in 1971, phil knight and bill bowerman (track legend and original investor) chose to make their own and decided on nike as a name. from the winged goddess of victory. if i remember correctly from the book swoosh, knight wanted the name to be dimension six. finally in 1972, the kit and caboodle was put together and the rest is history…

  • TD | May 29, 2007 at 10:20 am |

    Is that a zipper front on the Phillies all-burgandy uni? A really odd feature for 1979 if it is..

    Joey and Brad from Aerosmith need to tap in to Rocket’s flaxseed drip unit before it’s too late.

  • Willy Billy | May 29, 2007 at 10:20 am |

    Cliff Floyd is wearing a Nike Dri-Fit T-shirt with the “Cactus League” logo on the front. The logo is orange, and is a horizontal rextangle. I am currently looking for a picture of the logo I can post here, but I haven’t found one as of yet.

  • Anthony Verna | May 29, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”94174″]i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
    pic

    more pictures

    why don’t softball players wear hats?[/quote]

    Here’s my strange guess:

    Baseball’s a game that came around when people wore hats all the time. The athletes needed the hat, then. (Seriously, we might throw a fit if baseball didn’t have caps tomorrow, but would the performance change?)

    Softball’s a game that came around when people did NOT wear hats all the time in public, and I think that the softball uniform reflects that.

  • Frank Mercogliano | May 29, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    Couple of notes….

    The Marlins’ announcers talking about the pants were Dave Van Horne and Roxy Barnstein…two of the better announcers. Marlins have a great announcing set up for radio and TV.

    Softball hats….usually they wear visors if at all due to pony tails. Mostly, according to the women on our team here, it’s a personal preference thing.

    And as far as people saying the Hall of Fame “doesn’t get it” … um, I believe the uniforms are coming back in some form…..they are doing renovations up there…besides that’s why we have this little haven.

    Frank

  • Amy | May 29, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”94178″][quote comment=”94174″]

    why don’t softball players wear hats?[/quote]

    This is just a guess…but maybe their pony tails get in the way.[/quote]

    If its an adjustable hat, the pony tail fits just fine through the opening. The whole thing of hats not being part of a softball uniform drove me nuts in high school. Hats were provided for the baseball team, but if we wanted hats we had to decide on the look (they all had to match) and then buy them ourselves. Since hats in base/softball are functional I could never figure it out. I can assure you that being female or having a pony tail does not make you immune to having the sun get in your eyes. :)

  • Adam in Chicago | May 29, 2007 at 10:24 am |

    Curses! My post was just eaten… I’ll try again:

    I’d like to renew an old topic from last week regarding the necessity of names on jerseys and first initials and all that, and “what’s the point if they’re wearing numbers?”

    In rugby a player’s jersey number is not his own, but rather is determined by his position in the starting lineup:

    1 & 3 – Props
    2 – Hook
    4 & 5 – Locks
    6 & 7 – Flankers
    8 – The Eight
    9 – Scrum Half
    10 – Fly Half
    11 & 14 – Wings
    12 – Inside Center
    13 – Outside Center
    15 – Fullback
    16-22 – Reserves

    This means that a player wear a different number from match to match if he switches positions or is relegated to the bench (Tana Umaga, New Zealand’s longtime captain, went back and forth between 12, 13, & 14 in his career).

    It would stand to reason, then, that names would appear on jerseys so that fans might quickly identify favorite players, and yet this is extremely uncommon – especially at the international level. Most recently (to my knowledge) Wales put names on their jerseys in 2005, but they were gone by 2006. It should also be noted that when Wales had names they had 3 guys name Jones in the starting lineup, and they all had first initials on their backs.

    Why are names so uncommon on rugby shirts? Do they commonly use names at the club level, and I’ve just overlooked the practice? Are numbers positional in order to help the referee in some way? Does a certain non-positionally determined number ever stick with a player regardless of where he’s at, maybe as a sign of respect?

    I look to my fellow rugby-philes to help me understand.

  • Ben Thoma | May 29, 2007 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”94145″]Heluvan interesting grip on the ball from Kim in the photo that Paul linked on the big page.

    Anyone with a tip on what kind of pitch he’s throwing there? Results of backyard testing to follow…[/quote]
    I’m no pitcher, but my first thought is that perhaps he’s not pitching, but rushing a play in the field. Maybe?

  • Mark in Shiga | May 29, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”94182″]Regarding the Mets uniform in this photo, is the outlining of “Mets” in red, or a very dark orange? It doesn’t look like it matches the orange on the cap or the orange in 2007’s uniforms.[/quote]

    I think it’s orange; it looks the same color as the Orioles jersey to the left of it. The embroidery on the cap is a different material so it shouldn’t be surprising that the oranges are different shades.

    In the same photo, though, there’s a Pirates jersey, #36, and you can see white space between what should be the yellow and black layers of the number. Does this mean that instead of sewing two layers on top of each other like they do now, they instead sewed a black number and then a yellow outline around it?

  • nybatt | May 29, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    Like true baseball players, looking like throwback athletes, it was a pleasure to watch the SWB Yankees against the Mud Hens yesterday with EVERY PLAYER wearing their pants appropriately. Even #22 for the Yanks hiked them up! (something he failed to do at Trenton last week).

    The Mud Hens looked especially sharp not only wearing em high, but also sporting the classic 4″-cut stirrup.

    Obviously its team policy for both to wear their unis uniformly, and properly. Can’t figure out why this ends when players head to “the show”.

    ho-hum….

  • Matt D. | May 29, 2007 at 10:36 am |

    Is that a zipper front on the Phillies all-burgandy uni? A really odd feature for 1979 if it is..

    The Philies had zipper fronts into the 80’s. They were by far the last team to have them.

  • schuby | May 29, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    This photo is my hands-down favorite. I love the all-red Indians uni, nomatter what anyone else thinks. The old Padres is just so old-school and awesome. And those old braves unis are possibly my favorites or all time. I also like the red pinstripes on the Sox uni. Man, i must have really weird tastes in unis.

  • Joey Guns | May 29, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

    http://sports.espn.g...

    “I’m not worried about the Hall,” the San Francisco slugger said during a recent homer drought. “I take care of me.”

    Barry being Barry.

  • Stuby | May 29, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”94215″]Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

    http://sports.espn.g...

    “I’m not worried about the Hall,” the San Francisco slugger said during a recent homer drought. “I take care of me.”

    Barry being Barry.[/quote]
    Man I hope he tears up his knee again. What an ass.

  • Douzoglou Grandes Ligas | May 29, 2007 at 10:49 am |

    How can those Jockeys see through all of those goggles? I would think it probably has some sort of bottle effect. I guess you probably don’t need to see much when you’re a jockey, just make sure you whip that thoroughbred enough times.

  • Perry | May 29, 2007 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”94210″]Like true baseball players, looking like throwback athletes, it was a pleasure to watch the SWB Yankees against the Mud Hens yesterday with EVERY PLAYER wearing their pants appropriately. Even #22 for the Yanks hiked them up! (something he failed to do at Trenton last week).

    The Mud Hens looked especially sharp not only wearing em high, but also sporting the classic 4″-cut stirrup.

    Obviously its team policy for both to wear their unis uniformly, and properly. Can’t figure out why this ends when players head to “the show”.

    ho-hum….[/quote]

    I wonder if the requirement to wear high pants in the minor leagues might lead to an increased number of players wearing them long (“pajama style”) once they get to the majors. After years of being forced to wear a particular style, once they get the freedom to do what they want, they might want to exercise that freedom and celebrate their promotion by changing to a different style (not to mention conforming to the style that most of the other guys wear).

  • Madd Matt | May 29, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    Cliff Floyd is wearing a grey nike drifit, and the logo is a spring training logo…. All players receive them in Spring Training.

  • Amy | May 29, 2007 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”94227″]
    I wonder if the requirement to wear high pants in the minor leagues might lead to an increased number of players wearing them long (“pajama style”) once they get to the majors. After years of being forced to wear a particular style, once they get the freedom to do what they want, they might want to exercise that freedom and celebrate their promotion by changing to a different style (not to mention conforming to the style that most of the other guys wear).[/quote]

    That’s an interesting theory. One thing that maybe gets forgotten here is that many of these guys are at an age where people use their clothing to “express themselves”. In a way the PJ pants crew is like the co-op/intern at your office that wears cargo pants and sneakers with his dress shirt and tie. (which drives me crazy – cargo pants are CASUAL, they are not dress slacks).

  • Tom in Baltimore | May 29, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    Those Ducks uni numbers are rediculously huge.

  • Stuby | May 29, 2007 at 11:10 am |

    From the Dressed to the Nines site…

    “The 2002-2006 Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) is the first to include a section on uniform regulations. The CBA has no fewer than seven regulations regarding pants, limiting the pant length to be no lower than the top of the shoe heel and discouraging the baggy-pants look.”

    I went looking for what those seven regulations might be but couldn’t find anything. Anyone have any idea?
    I think its time baseball had uniform cops like the NFL.

  • Kings33 | May 29, 2007 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”94202″][quote comment=”94145″]Heluvan interesting grip on the ball from Kim in the photo that Paul linked on the big page.

    Anyone with a tip on what kind of pitch he’s throwing there? Results of backyard testing to follow…[/quote]
    I’m no pitcher, but my first thought is that perhaps he’s not pitching, but rushing a play in the field. Maybe?[/quote]

    My guess – a variation on the Randy Tomlin “Vulcan Change”

  • Robert | May 29, 2007 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”94174″]i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
    pic

    more pictures
    [/quote]

    I used to have a pair of game-worn Mike Henneman spikes, and there was a big chunk of plastic affixed to one shoe at the location where he drug his foot while pitching. I guess that without the plastic on there, a hole would have been worn through the leather in short order.

  • KingMouse | May 29, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    To me the object on Clemens belt looks like a security pager for a Harley Davidson. The fourth picture looks like it has the bar and shield logo on it. click on view two of the pager for a better look.

  • JJD | May 29, 2007 at 11:24 am |

    Kennedy High School’s girl’s softball team won the Washington 4A state championship Saturday, and this photo ran along side the article. Note the American flag on #16…is that pretty common now?

    Anyway, the thing that got my attention was “why do the ‘Lancers’ have a ‘T’ in their jersey?” After a couple of seconds I realized they have a Diamondbacksesque misalignment-thing going there.

  • KingMouse | May 29, 2007 at 11:24 am |

    I am not sure how to put the link in the post so here it is. http://www.harley-da... look at view 2.

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 29, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”94214″]This photo is my hands-down favorite. I love the all-red Indians uni, nomatter what anyone else thinks. The old Padres is just so old-school and awesome. And those old braves unis are possibly my favorites or all time. I also like the red pinstripes on the Sox uni. Man, i must have really weird tastes in unis.[/quote]

    I agree. In a sick, twisted way, I like the Indians’ all-reds from the late seventies too. One of my prized possessions, sure to be trotted out for any DC area UniWatch gathering, is a “beautiful” Dennis Eckersley throwback from 1976. Paul, I’m looking for a pair of red pants for just such an occasion, if you can make it happen. Seriously.

    What I found interesting is that the cap in the picture appeared to have a blue visor. I had never seen an all blue cap with these unis before because the caps are always sold nowadays with the red visor, but then they were easy to find pictures of.

    By the way, I love the full-bodied swinging 70’s Wahoo logo on these unis. GO TRIBE.

  • Joe | May 29, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    Anyone know what the tat on Ramon’s arm is???

  • TX Ken | May 29, 2007 at 11:30 am |

    This morning, on ESPN2’s “first take”, Jalen Rose wore a Detroit Tigers blazer that looked a lot like their BP jersey (with the orange shoulder wedges and all). Everyone keep an eye out for that picture, because it was really interesting to see.

  • Jaye | May 29, 2007 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”94220″][quote comment=”94215″]Bonds might not donate prized items to Hall of Fame

    http://sports.espn.g...

    “I’m not worried about the Hall,” the San Francisco slugger said during a recent homer drought. “I take care of me.”

    Barry being Barry.[/quote]
    Man I hope he tears up his knee again. What an ass.[/quote]

    In all honesty, if no one wants him in the HOF, why would you want any of his stuff there? Will there be an asterisk next to his items? Either ignore him or embrace him. We can’t have it both ways.

  • Danny | May 29, 2007 at 11:38 am |

    This is ridiculous. I am literally on RT 145 about 30 minutes away from Cooperstown. I NOW find out that this exhbibit is not up? ARG.

    Real point, we discussed Biggio’s pin and how Billy Martin wore a pin on his cap while managing the A’s and the Yankees. However, while visiting Monument Park this weekend, I noticed something odd on Billy Martin’s plaque. Between the Y on his cap is a crucifix pin! I found it strange that the Yankees would use this on his plaque.

  • Sid | May 29, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    The pitch Kim is throwing is a change up. There’s no one way to throw it, he just has a different way of gripping it.

  • Erik | May 29, 2007 at 11:43 am |

    Cathy and Diz: Yeah it’s probably a third jersey, it didn’t have a specific label on it when I found it. Definately doesn’t look like a Chelsea jersey though, but sure enough it is.

    Douglas: Thanks for the compliment (to Cathy as well). A few side notes: Ireland’s are pretty snazzy with that interesting design in the piping, but I kind of like them. Seems like a bunch (Palmerias) of teams are using that weird question mark (Real Madrid) piping (Rapid Wien, Liverpool), and I’ve never been a fan of asymmetrical (sp?) uniforms. Completely agree on the Inter thing, but it’s weird to see them wearing red and white just like Milan.

    inter, city, deutschland : wow!
    what’s wrong with adidas questionmark template? it seems like umbro got some inspiration from wnba motif jerseys but enoughly sober to make it work.
    Inter sponsor really deserves credits for minimizing its space on the jersey and not spoiling it (everybody knows it’s been pirelli since forever so no real need to anyway).

  • Josh W. | May 29, 2007 at 11:48 am |

    Ok, I don’t know if it was mentioned already today (I was too lazy to read through all the comments) but they do still have somewhat of a uni display in Cooperstown. I went just last year, and instead of having an old display like that, they have a new room where every team in represented in a “locker.” In the locker, each team had at least one jersey hanging up, with some teams having multiple jerseys. (if you zoom into that Padres’ picture, you can see a patch of the game they played vs the Mets in Mexico in I believe 1997). Also in this “locker room,” there were some other jerseys, such as Dice-K’s jersey from the World Baseball Classic. Gotta love those embroidered helmet decals.

    A few other things I saw uni-related:

    – There was a display from the previous year’s World Series, featuring three game worn jerseys .

    – A close up of a Phillies (I believe) zip-up jersey.

    – Curt Schilling’s bloody sock.

    Here’s another view of that hat Stengel wore. As you can see, the logo’s stretched all the way around it.

    – Some of Ted Williams old gear, including those ever-famous Red Sox striped stirrups. Check out the #9 at the bottom of the stirrup. I never noticed that until just now.

    – Uni’s from baseball movies, including The Rookie, and The Natural.

    I got other things, but I’m getting tired of linking everything. Real quick, though, in closing. The reason we went up to Cooperstown was because my little brother had a baseball tournament at the Cooperstown Dreams Park. Very nice facility, great place to play/watch a game. Anyways, in order to avoid uni-corresponding confusion (with over 100 teams there, it would be easy to have a game where two teams are wearing generally similar uniforms) the park gave out two jerseys to each team. A red one, and a blue one. Another rule they imposed was that each player had to wear their socks high. If not, they’d be removed from the game. Well, my little brother usually wore his pants low, as you can kinda see here. However, this tournament forced him to wear them high, and as a result hit his first home run. Later he hit his second off Roger Clemens’ son’s team, with the Rocket in attendance.

  • Anna | May 29, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”94174″]i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
    pic

    more pictures

    why don’t softball players wear hats?[/quote]

    The extra piece on their shoes is actually a hard plastic that they apply after they buy their shoes. It helps prevent burning a hole in the leather on their drag foot which would lead to them having to buy new shoes mulitple times in a season.

  • Mel | May 29, 2007 at 12:07 pm |

    I think the reason most MLB players don’t wear their pant legs high, is because their teammates discourage it. Many of these guys come to “the show” with their socks showing, like they wore them in College, and then after a while, most become victims of “peer pressure,” and wear the pant legs down. Management isn’t going to enforce proper uniform wearing because too many players are, at this point, making loads of money, and have become more important than the fans. Too many players (e.g., Manny just being “Manny”) get away with looking stupid because they have great stats.

  • DenverGregg | May 29, 2007 at 12:20 pm |

    Anecdotal Nike stuff.

    I played 8th grade basketball in 77-78. I vividly remember the big argument at the beginning of the season whether our uniform would include Nike or Converse shoes. Converse won out for the game shoes, but most of the better players (a group that didn’t include me) wore Nikes for practice. One guy wore Ponys. I wore Pumas.

    There was also an argument about how to pronounce Nike. Our point guard insisted it rhymed with bike.

    By freshman year of HS, all the cool kids were wearing Nikes, preferably without socks.

  • Ian K | May 29, 2007 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”94271″]I think the reason most MLB players don’t wear their pant legs high, is because their teammates discourage it. Many of these guys come to “the show” with their socks showing, like they wore them in College, and then after a while, most become victims of “peer pressure,” and wear the pant legs down. Management isn’t going to enforce proper uniform wearing because too many players are, at this point, making loads of money, and have become more important than the fans. Too many players (e.g., Manny just being “Manny”) get away with looking stupid because they have great stats.[/quote]

    I’ve heard this story too – David Wright has mentioned he felt this type of peer pressure from his Mets teammates when he made it to the bigs. Wright is seen with high socks through most of his minor league stay. It’s too bad that the baggy look wins out like that.

  • Stuby | May 29, 2007 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”94271″]I think the reason most MLB players don’t wear their pant legs high, is because their teammates discourage it. Many of these guys come to “the show” with their socks showing, like they wore them in College, and then after a while, most become victims of “peer pressure,” and wear the pant legs down. Management isn’t going to enforce proper uniform wearing because too many players are, at this point, making loads of money, and have become more important than the fans. Too many players (e.g., Manny just being “Manny”) get away with looking stupid because they have great stats.[/quote]
    Baseball needs to enforce it, a la the NFL. It can’t actually help their product if there a buncha Rag-Bags (Army term) running around out there, can it?

  • Ian | May 29, 2007 at 12:23 pm |

    Great feature on the HOF uni display. However, the picture of the Seattle Pilots jersey seems to disagree with what Dressed to the Nines shows and what the Mariners wore last year in their TBTC game. In fact, in “Rain Check; Baseball in the Pacific Northwest”, they show a Pilots team picture and they are wearing tops with block numbers. Who to believe? The HOF, with their Red Sox font top, or every other source with their athletic font top?

  • Andy from KC | May 29, 2007 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”94118″]Genuinely hilarious video commentary about black uniforms here, complete with references to the Nazis, Mafia funerals, and Nike’s child-labor practices. Essential viewing. …

    I still think that NIKE is rolling out BLACK ELITE jerseys for all of its major college clients (seems like North Crolina has been hit with it also from the comment section) and we will see more of these in the coming weeks (Regionals, Super Regionals, WCWS).[/quote]

    Long shot, but is there any way someone could transcribe the video for those of us who are hearing impaired? Thanks in advance.

  • ja | May 29, 2007 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”94151″]The Marlins radio announcers discussed Cabrera’s shoes on Sunday. The lead announcer said they looked like someone had started with the A’s old white shoes and then gone to town.

    The same announcer also said the following (in paraphrase): “Miguel wearing his pants up today. Some people say he is wearing his socks up, but ballplayers wear their socks that way everyday. So it is incorrect to say that. He is wearing his pants legs up high.”

    Excellent analysis. I just wish I knew who the broadcaster was.

    it was Dave Van Horne…other comments from the mets/marlins series this weekend. first, paul, the eye black/war paint thing has been going on all season during day games, several players doing it for the marlins–mainly cabrera and alfredo amezaga, couple other guys here and there as well. also, noticed that the mets were NOT wearing the bp caps at all this weekend (a la tony gwynn jr)…they were actually wearing the regular blue, classic caps pre-game and during bp.

  • Brad | May 29, 2007 at 12:47 pm |

    In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?

  • Michael Gargano | May 29, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    Hanley Ramirez wore the same undershirt as Cliff Floyd did in yesterdays game at Wrigley. Attached is a link with a little better look at Floyd’s undershirt.

  • schuby | May 29, 2007 at 12:58 pm |

    I just got a brilliant idea a few minutes ago. I know that we all love to hate on the D-backs here, so, i believe we should have a little contest. Let’s play a game called “See If You Can Design A Better Diamondbacks Uniform”. I would love to see what would people will come up with. Maybe they actually will be better than the current ones.

  • Brian Erni | May 29, 2007 at 12:58 pm |

    what a travesty that they’ve taken the uni exibit out. by far the best exibit the hallf of fame had. hey, paul. remember, the ill-fated phillies blue caps which was a modern example of a classic mistake? i always hoped to see them in that exibit one day

  • schuby | May 29, 2007 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

    Uhhh…. maybe Oklahoma University, maybe??

  • WVU Tom | May 29, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”94297″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

    Uhhh…. maybe Oklahoma University, maybe??[/quote]

    [sarcasm]
    Well, obviously!
    [/sarcasm]

    No, in all seriousness it is a valid point, but usually a college or university will be pretty strict with it’s naming convention.

    For example: It would be VERY wrong to call West Virinia University, the “University of West Virginia”, even though the two terms may in fact be synonymous.

  • ML | May 29, 2007 at 1:07 pm |

    Might be a record for number of different people named “Reyes” in one Uni Watch article today….

  • Roger | May 29, 2007 at 1:08 pm |
  • WVU Tom | May 29, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    Sometimes, I like to use, too many commas. Sorry, about that…

  • Mike | May 29, 2007 at 1:09 pm |

    What, no stirrups?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    In other news, the President will be welcoming the Houston Dynamo to the White House in an hour. I sense a new jersey on the way. Any bets on the number?

  • Stuby | May 29, 2007 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”94299″][quote comment=”94297″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

    Uhhh…. maybe Oklahoma University, maybe??[/quote]

    [sarcasm]
    Well, obviously!
    [/sarcasm]

    No, in all seriousness it is a valid point, but usually a college or university will be pretty strict with it’s naming convention.

    For example: It would be VERY wrong to call West Virinia University, the “University of West Virginia”, even though the two terms may in fact be synonymous.[/quote]
    Is ‘West Virinia’ the same thing as ‘West Virgina’ and/or ‘West Virginia’?

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 29, 2007 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

    Same with the University of Kansas and KU. Why?

  • bj in gainesville | May 29, 2007 at 1:20 pm |

    pretty sure the “box” on Clemens’ hip is a pedometer. Probably there by order of a trainer looking for him to loose some weight.

  • Mike | May 29, 2007 at 1:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”94299″][quote comment=”94297″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

    Uhhh…. maybe Oklahoma University, maybe??[/quote]

    [sarcasm]
    Well, obviously!
    [/sarcasm]

    No, in all seriousness it is a valid point, but usually a college or university will be pretty strict with it’s naming convention.

    For example: It would be VERY wrong to call West Virinia University, the “University of West Virginia”, even though the two terms may in fact be synonymous.[/quote]

    As a WVU Alum, I HATE it when people say University of West Virginia….or worse yet, University of Western Virginia….ugh

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 29, 2007 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”94301″]yikes …[/quote]

    I just threw up in my mouth a little.

  • Stuby | May 29, 2007 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”94309″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

    Same with the University of Kansas and KU. Why?[/quote]
    The University of Colorado has ‘CU’ on their helmets.

  • Christian | May 29, 2007 at 1:42 pm |

    I went looking for what those seven regulations might be but couldn’t find anything. Anyone have any idea?

    The CBA is available on the MLBPA website. Attachment 19 of the CBA is entitled “Uniform Regulations” and includes sections on pants, jerseys, undershirts, outerwear, footwear, adornment and markings, permissible alterations, wristbands, gloves, and helmets.

    The pants section is as follows:

    1. Straps may not be attached to the bottom of the pants.
    2. Shoes may not be laced through the pants.
    3. The elastic string may not be completely removed from the bottom of the pants.
    4. Pants may not extend below the top of the heel of spikes.
    5. Pants may not be so baggy as to, or otherwise sized in a manner which may, interfere with the umpires’ ability to make calls.
    6. Pants pockets may not unintentionally be untucked.
    7. Every effort will be made to replace, in a timely fashion, pants torn during the game.

    Section 6 was recently cited w/r/t Carlos Guillen of the Tigers.

  • Joey Guns | May 29, 2007 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”94313″][quote comment=”94301″]yikes …[/quote]

    I just threw up in my mouth a little.[/quote]

    Why can’t that picture be of 2 girls? Just my $0.02

  • Ian K | May 29, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”94297″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

    Uhhh…. maybe Oklahoma University, maybe??[/quote]

    Its official name is “University of Oklahoma.” Maybe it’s OU because it was established after Oregon, or because Oklahoma (the state) was admitted 2nd?

  • WVU Tom | May 29, 2007 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”94304″][quote comment=”94299″][quote comment=”94297″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

    Uhhh…. maybe Oklahoma University, maybe??[/quote]

    [sarcasm]
    Well, obviously!
    [/sarcasm]

    No, in all seriousness it is a valid point, but usually a college or university will be pretty strict with it’s naming convention.

    For example: It would be VERY wrong to call West Virinia University the “University of West Virginia”, even though the two terms may in fact be synonymous.[/quote]
    Is ‘West Virinia’ the same thing as ‘West Virgina’ and/or ‘West Virginia’?[/quote]

    Oh sorry, that should be West Virgina!

  • mg12 | May 29, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”94328″][quote comment=”94297″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

    Uhhh…. maybe Oklahoma University, maybe??[/quote]

    Its official name is “University of Oklahoma.” Maybe it’s OU because it was established after Oregon, or because Oklahoma (the state) was admitted 2nd?[/quote]

    Same to be said of Kansas. UK is Kentucky, Kansas is KU to differentiate themselves. I am sure there are some tricky trademarks involved as well.

  • todd krevanchi | May 29, 2007 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”94324″][quote comment=”94313″][quote comment=”94301″]yikes …[/quote]

    I just threw up in my mouth a little.[/quote]

    Why can’t that picture be of 2 girls?

    Just my $0.02[/quote]

    or of jamie kotsay…
    very nice…

  • Stuby | May 29, 2007 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”94333″][quote comment=”94304″][quote comment=”94299″][quote comment=”94297″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

    Uhhh…. maybe Oklahoma University, maybe??[/quote]

    [sarcasm]
    Well, obviously!
    [/sarcasm]

    No, in all seriousness it is a valid point, but usually a college or university will be pretty strict with it’s naming convention.

    For example: It would be VERY wrong to call West Virinia University the “University of West Virginia”, even though the two terms may in fact be synonymous.[/quote]
    Is ‘West Virinia’ the same thing as ‘West Virgina’ and/or ‘West Virginia’?[/quote]

    Oh sorry, that should be West Virgina![/quote]
    I thought you guys preferred ‘West, by God, Virginia’.

  • WVU Tom | May 29, 2007 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”94336″][quote comment=”94328″][quote comment=”94297″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

    Uhhh…. maybe Oklahoma University, maybe??[/quote]

    Its official name is “University of Oklahoma.” Maybe it’s OU because it was established after Oregon, or because Oklahoma (the state) was admitted 2nd?[/quote]

    Same to be said of Kansas. UK is Kentucky, Kansas is KU to differentiate themselves. I am sure there are some tricky trademarks involved as well.[/quote]

    There are definately a few OSU’s out there.

  • teddymcg | May 29, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    It seems like I heard once that when the Big 8 was formed they wanted uniformity between the conference teams. (OU, OSU, CU, KU, KSU, NU, ISU & MU) Then they let those texans in who screwed it all up (A&M, UT, BU? and TT).

  • David | May 29, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    Good old baseball pics. here in an article of the US’s oldest stadium (click on the like that says (Click for more photos by Kenny Smith))

  • David | May 29, 2007 at 2:29 pm |

    oops

  • David | May 29, 2007 at 2:29 pm |

  • David | May 29, 2007 at 2:30 pm |

    W/E…go to Page 2 on ESPN.com and go to the article by Jim Caple

  • Minna H. | May 29, 2007 at 2:31 pm |

    I lust, yes, lust for the Pilots’ unis. I would love to see the uni exhibition when they get it back up and running.

    As for the North Carolina black and blue jerseys–ugh. What a waste of black. I never thought I’d say this, but that is one ugly jersey–mostly because of the blue armpit blotches. Try again!

    I really got a kick out of the video decrying Oklahoma wearing black. “What kind of team would model themselves after the Nazis? It’s up for you in your heart of hearts to decide.” Brilliant.

  • Chris | May 29, 2007 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”94314″][quote comment=”94309″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

    Same with the University of Kansas and KU. Why?[/quote]
    The University of Colorado has ‘CU’ on their helmets.[/quote]

    When the Big 8 was created they wanted to stand out from the other conferences. Like how Tennessee is UT and Kentucky is UK, the Big 8 decided to flip it it.

  • Stuby | May 29, 2007 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”94351″][quote comment=”94314″][quote comment=”94309″][quote comment=”94289″]In the video the dude asks “What’s next… UO on the helmets?”, which got me wondering: why the heck does the University of Oklahoma use OU as an abbreviation?[/quote]

    Same with the University of Kansas and KU. Why?[/quote]
    The University of Colorado has ‘CU’ on their helmets.[/quote]

    When the Big 8 was created they wanted to stand out from the other conferences. Like how Tennessee is UT and Kentucky is UK, the Big 8 decided to flip it it.[/quote]
    Seriously? That’s friggin’ bizarre.

  • Ken L | May 29, 2007 at 2:53 pm |

    Some interesting things out of NCAA lacrosse action this weekend, where Johns Hopkins won its 9th NCAA and 44th overall National title:
    Cornell was sporting some awesome socks.

    Hopkins wore their snazzy powder blue jersey for the championship game against Duke, and their unfortunately Nike-fied whites for the semifinal against Delaware.

    If you look closely at the second Hopkins picture, you’ll notice an aspect of the uniform that made an appearance throughout the weekend, and has generated a bit of buzz on both the sportslogos.net forum and especially the laxpower forum. The Hopkins helmets featured a smiling cartoon blue jay wearing a ‘JHU’ sweater and wielding a lacrosse stick. As an alumni member of the Hopkins band, I’ve seen nearly every Hopkins lacrosse game over the past five years, and was familiar with the fact that such a logo existed (and was created in the 1960’s), but had never seen it on the helmet until this weekend’s games. It’s really an amazing looking logo (especially if you’re fond of retro cartoon logos), and echo the sentiments of one of the posters on the sportslogos.net board that a hi-res version of the logo would be greatly appreciated.

    This phenomenon of retro cartoon logos making a resurgence would also make a great Uniwatch topic! (Hint, hint…)

  • patrick | May 29, 2007 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”94158″][quote comment=”94142″][quote comment=”94134″]figured I’d post this for all of you to see. I whipped up a website showing all soccer (football) uniform changes for the upcoming year.
    http://www.freewebs....

    Thanks Erik, I’m a huge soccer fan and love the site. I agree that Man City’s new unis are tops. But, is that REALLY Chelsea’s new home jersey??? The florescent yellow/green? It looks like a keepers jersey.[/quote]

    looks like it’s been mislabelled on the site. I’d say that might be a third shirt there, rather than home…[/quote]

    It is indeed, their third, alternate jersey. Worn when teams clash, or sometimes for out of league games

  • C.J. | May 29, 2007 at 3:24 pm |

    Why “CU” and not “UC”, from the Colorado website:

    A question often asked of many former Big Eight schools: Why is it the University of Colorado, but the moniker is CU and not UC? (The same applies at Kansas-KU, Missouri-MU, Nebraska-NU and Oklahoma-OU). “Midwestern casualness,” says CU historian Fred Casotti. It has always been this way at Colorado, for whatever reason, and at the other four listed above-but seemingly nowhere else in the USA.

    In the 1950s, there was a concerted effort to eliminate the use of “CU” on the Boulder campus, both as a symbol and in speech, but Casotti said that no one would buy into it. “Nobody would change,” he said. “It’s easier to say than U of C, UC sounds like slang or something (as in ‘you see’), and it was traditional. By trying to eliminate it, they reinforced it.”

  • Boston Nick | May 29, 2007 at 3:32 pm |

    Looking at those soccer uniforms, it’s absolutely official in my mind. Nike has far surpassed Adidas as far as making soccer uniforms. Bizarrely, Nike has emphasized individual teams over company template. The results are simple classic uniforms that look excellent. Meanwhile, Adidas has made template based jerseys with all these bells and whistles (so to speak) that just add clutter and stupidity to their designs.

    I mean, even the pinstriped US jersey, which I’m not a fan of, is probably better than every single Adidas jersey Is aw on that site.

    Also, West Ham hasn’t had decent jerseys since they were made by Fila. The switch to Umbro sadly hasn’t changed it.

  • alex | May 29, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    To continue the state university talk, Indiana is also IU, despite the fact many people refer to them as “the university of indiana.” what’s funny is that this usually only applies to references to the football team. It seems they never mess up when talking about the basketball team.

  • Stuby | May 29, 2007 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”94372″]To continue the state university talk, Indiana is also IU, despite the fact many people refer to them as “the university of indiana.” what’s funny is that this usually only applies to references to the football team. It seems they never mess up when talking about the basketball team.[/quote]
    But they ARE actually IU

  • Jordan | May 29, 2007 at 3:45 pm |

    Well its the University of North Carolina, and referred to UNC in all instances except for one song, which cries NCU.

  • Joe Drennan | May 29, 2007 at 3:45 pm |

    Interesting little piece of equipment seen on Scott Neidermayer’s right foot here. It appears to be a brace that players occasionaly wear to protect their feet from pucks when blocking shots.

  • Mike Murray | May 29, 2007 at 3:46 pm |

    Aside from the torn pant leg, note that the American flag is worn backwards by Brad Snyder as well.

    Did you mean he’s wearing the flag on the wrong sleeve? The flag itself is displayed just fine.

  • Robert | May 29, 2007 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”94368″]Why “CU” and not “UC”, from the Colorado website:

    A question often asked of many former Big Eight schools: Why is it the University of Colorado, but the moniker is CU and not UC? (The same applies at Kansas-KU, Missouri-MU, Nebraska-NU and Oklahoma-OU). “Midwestern casualness,” says CU historian Fred Casotti. It has always been this way at Colorado, for whatever reason, and at the other four listed above-but seemingly nowhere else in the USA.

    [/quote]

    I do not know whether I buy the “midwestern casualness” concept. In Nebraska, nearly everyone refers to the University as UNL (short for University of Nebraska-Lincoln), to distinguish it from its smaller siblings, UNO and UNK.

    On campus, many signs say NU, while others say UNL. There is no real rhyme or reason to it, and I do not think that anyone there feels strongly about it one way or the other.

  • diz | May 29, 2007 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”94201″]
    Why are names so uncommon on rugby shirts? Do they commonly use names at the club level, and I’ve just overlooked the practice? Are numbers positional in order to help the referee in some way? Does a certain non-positionally determined number ever stick with a player regardless of where he’s at, maybe as a sign of respect?[/quote]

    It’s down to tradition – it’s easier for the amateur clubs (and all clubs were amateur until 1995) to manage 1-15 + subs, and since most of the grass roots support for the Union game is from recreational players, there is a strong sense of tradition.

    As far as I know of, there’s been no instances of a player wearing a number out of position… it’s not uncommon for a player to flit between two or three (sometimes four) numbers in the space of a couple of months.

    As a side note, Leiceseter used to use letters instead of numbers, but the English Premiership has shifted to names and squad numbers these days.

    League, of course, is a completely different matter.

    I’ve found a decent site that explains a lot of the history of this stuff, I’m mainly speaking from the experience of watching and playing Union over the years

  • Lauren | May 29, 2007 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”94283″]Long shot, but is there any way someone could transcribe the video for those of us who are hearing impaired? Thanks in advance.[/quote]

    As you wish…
    The Oklahoma Sooners took the field this week in the big 12 baseball tournament wearing black jerseys. This remake of Men in Black couldn’t be more shocking than if Britney Spears made an appearance with her navel covered up, if Jack Nicholson made an appearance at a Laker’s sideline without his trademark sunglasses, if Bob Stoopes had dropped his visor in favor of a Bud Wilkenson fedora.

    Nothing against black, it’s a fine color, and one that graces the uniforms of many a fine institution. But the Sooners wear crimson and cream. Have since not long after someone invented the wheel and nailed it to a (buckboard?). So what is OU doing going all Texas Tech on us? Black with red trim? And while it’s a dang sharp look, adopting the color scheme of Bobby Knight seems countrerproductive to the university mission.

    OU’s archrival happens to claim black as a primary color. Oklahoma State agreed to forgo black in the bedlam game Friday night so the Sooners could wear the color. Many a bedlam showdown has featured black uniforms vs. white, but rarely with the Cowboys in the whites. Hope fans didn’t sit on the wrong side of Bricktown Ballpark.

    Black uniforms are all the rage these days. The rappers adopted the Raiders and before you knew it, Duke basketball, Florida State football, and the Baltimore Ravens trotted out black jerseys. And every little league team from Iowa City to Fort Lauderdale had declared war on red and blue.

    Blame it all on the Nazis, when in 1932 invented black uniforms, designing them for their SS military, before going on a variety of humanitarian maneuvers. Why anyone would want to mimic the Nazis is a question you’ll have to answer in your own heart of hearts.

    The Sooners wore black this week because Nike asked them to. And in 21st century America, you don’t say no to Nike—the company of Michael Jordan, Bo Jackson, and 10 year old Pakistanian assembly line workers.

    Black appeals to the younger crowd, whose spending habits keep the US economy humming. That’s why sporting events these days tend to look like a mafia funeral, there’s so much black being worn.

    I don’t have a problem with teams occasionally dressing outside the box. The Red Sox wore green the other day to honor Boston legend Red Auerbach. Kelvin Sampson’s Sooners wore orange t-shirts in warmup at (Gallagher-Ibar?) Arena to honor the 10 killed in the OSU plane crash. But wearing black so Nike can sell 500 new jerseys to some Oklahoma kids? What’s next? Scrap the schooner in favor of a Mustang? Wear UO on the cap? Go all black—pants, shirts, caps? Men in Black—that’s a sequel I don’t want to see.

  • joe | May 29, 2007 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”94310″]pretty sure the “box” on Clemens’ hip is a pedometer. Probably there by order of a trainer looking for him to loose some weight.[/quote]

    That would be one giant pedometer then, most are at 2″x1″ or so in size. Even mine which can do a USB transfer of data to the computer is small in size. I’d have to go with the HD security thought so far. Plus pedometers are not usually worn in the front, most read most accuratly on the side of the hip.

  • todd krevanchi | May 29, 2007 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”94378″]Well its the University of North Carolina, and referred to UNC in all instances except for one song, which cries NCU.[/quote]

    dammit! beat me…
    from hark the sound…
    Hark the sound of Tar Heel voices
    Ringing clear and True
    Singing Carolina’s praises
    Shouting N.C.U.

    Hail to the brightest Star of all
    Clear its radiance shine
    Carolina priceless gem,
    Receive all praises thine.

    ‘Neath the oaks the sons true hearted
    Homage pay to thee
    Time worn walls give back their echo
    Hail to U.N.C.

    Though the storms of life assail us
    Still our hearts beat true
    Naught can break the friendships formed at
    Dear old N.C.U.

    I’m a Tar Heel born I’m a Tar Heel bred
    And when I die I’m a Tar Heel dead.
    So it’s RAH, RAH, Car’lina ‘lina
    RAH, RAH, Car’lina ‘lina
    RAH, RAH, Car’lina
    RAH! RAH! RAH!

    from here comes carolina…
    Here comes Carolina-lina.
    Here comes Carolina-lina.
    We hail from NCU.

    We’ve got the spirit in it.
    We’ve got the team to win it.
    We wear the colors white and blue,

    So it’s fight, fight, fight for Carolina
    As Davey did in days of old
    As we gather round the Well
    Cheer that Tar Heel team like hell
    For the glory of NCU.

    I’m a Tar Heel born.
    I’m a Tar Heel bred.
    And when I die I’ll be a Tar Heel dead.
    So it’s rah rah Carolina-lina.
    Rah rah Carolina-lina.
    Rah rah Carolina-lina–go to hell State!

  • Mike Engle | May 29, 2007 at 4:09 pm |

    Question I’ve always asked, but never got a good answer: is the little button on baseball caps functional, or is it just a little cherry on top?

  • Raul | May 29, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”94180″][quote comment=”94178″][quote comment=”94174″]i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
    pic

    more pictures

    why don’t softball players wear hats?[/quote]

    This is just a guess…but maybe their pony tails get in the way.[/quote]
    I’ve seen a few wear visors, but its definitely not ‘uniform’.[/quote]

    Back in the mid 90’s there was a Nike tennis shoe called the air resistance that had a huge toe on it that was supposedly made of kevlar so that tennis players wouldn’t ruin thier shoes by dragging the toe on the serve followthrough. I had a pair in High School but by the time I got to college they stopped making them

  • patrick | May 29, 2007 at 4:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”94201″]Curses! My post was just eaten… I’ll try again:

    I’d like to renew an old topic from last week regarding the necessity of names on jerseys and first initials and all that, and “what’s the point if they’re wearing numbers?”

    In rugby a player’s jersey number is not his own, but rather is determined by his position in the starting lineup:

    1 & 3 – Props
    2 – Hook
    4 & 5 – Locks
    6 & 7 – Flankers
    8 – The Eight
    9 – Scrum Half
    10 – Fly Half
    11 & 14 – Wings
    12 – Inside Center
    13 – Outside Center
    15 – Fullback
    16-22 – Reserves

    This means that a player wear a different number from match to match if he switches positions or is relegated to the bench (Tana Umaga, New Zealand’s longtime captain, went back and forth between 12, 13, & 14 in his career).

    It would stand to reason, then, that names would appear on jerseys so that fans might quickly identify favorite players, and yet this is extremely uncommon – especially at the international level. Most recently (to my knowledge) Wales put names on their jerseys in 2005, but they were gone by 2006. It should also be noted that when Wales had names they had 3 guys name Jones in the starting lineup, and they all had first initials on their backs.

    Why are names so uncommon on rugby shirts? Do they commonly use names at the club level, and I’ve just overlooked the practice? Are numbers positional in order to help the referee in some way? Does a certain non-positionally determined number ever stick with a player regardless of where he’s at, maybe as a sign of respect?

    I look to my fellow rugby-philes to help me understand.[/quote]

    rugby numbers are set in stone, you cannot wear a number that isnt assigned with your position. And in the case of helping the referee: yes, there are certain rules backs/forwads must adhere to, more along the lines of elgigible/ineligible recever recognition in football

  • Ryan B. | May 29, 2007 at 4:17 pm |

    In all honesty, if no one wants him [Barry Bonds-RB] in the HOF, why would you want any of his stuff there? Will there be an asterisk next to his items? Either ignore him or embrace him. We can’t have it both ways.

    As much as I can’t stand Bonds, I totally agree with this poster. I don’t think me, Joe Average Fan who hates Bonds, can talk about not wanting his HR record to count or say he’s a cheater and shouldn’t be embraced by America as the home run king, and then be upset because he won’t share any of his historic home run chase with the Hall. How hypocritical is that?

    Gee, I never thought I’d be agreeing with or sticking up for Bonds.

  • Philly Bill | May 29, 2007 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”94253″]Real point, we discussed Biggio’s pin and how Billy Martin wore a pin on his cap while managing the A’s and the Yankees. However, while visiting Monument Park this weekend, I noticed something odd on Billy Martin’s plaque. Between the Y on his cap is a crucifix pin! I found it strange that the Yankees would use this on his plaque.[/quote]

    That is a great observation!

    I believe Nike basketball shoes debuted in ’73 with the Blazer; I think the original colorway is the one on the left in that photo. I think their first major endorser was Geoff Petrie of — duh — the Blazers, who shared the ’71 Rookie of the Year award with the Celtics’ Dave Cowens and is now the GM of the Sacramento Kings.

  • Mike Engle | May 29, 2007 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”94402″][quote comment=”94253″]Real point, we discussed Biggio’s pin and how Billy Martin wore a pin on his cap while managing the A’s and the Yankees. However, while visiting Monument Park this weekend, I noticed something odd on Billy Martin’s plaque. Between the Y on his cap is a crucifix pin! I found it strange that the Yankees would use this on his plaque.[/quote]

    That is a great observation!

    I believe Nike basketball shoes debuted in ’73 with the Blazer; I think the original colorway is the one on the left in that photo. I think their first major endorser was Geoff Petrie of — duh — the Blazers, who shared the ’71 Rookie of the Year award with the Celtics’ Dave Cowens and is now the GM of the Sacramento Kings.[/quote]
    Funny, I thought George Gervin and his Ice Man advertisements were first.

  • shannon knight | May 29, 2007 at 4:23 pm |

    I like the old astros unis the best . Every summer my mom would ship from Kentucky to my grandparents in Houston. Reminds me of Joe Morgan, Doug Rader and Cesar Cedano. I wish the stros would wear them on throwback days. I hate the taco bell unis.

  • Philly Bill | May 29, 2007 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”94398″]Back in the mid 90’s there was a Nike tennis shoe called the air resistance that had a huge toe on it that was supposedly made of kevlar so that tennis players wouldn’t ruin thier shoes by dragging the toe on the serve followthrough. I had a pair in High School but by the time I got to college they stopped making them[/quote]

    The kevlar was overkill, but still most high-end tennis shoes (like these) have some sort of reinforcement at the toe, often just in the form of denser, more plasticky rubber.

  • Eriq Jaffe | May 29, 2007 at 4:31 pm |

    I came across this picture somewhere, and it’s about the only color picture I’ve ever found of the White Sox shorts. IIRC, the guy in the foreground is Chet Lemon, while the coach in the background is none other than Sox legend Minnie Miñoso!

  • Philly Bill | May 29, 2007 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”94404″]Funny, I thought George Gervin and his Ice Man advertisements were first.[/quote]

    Surely Gervin’s endorsement had more staying power. Most fans don’t even remember Petrie as a player.

    In the absence of any concrete evidence, I’m sticking with Petrie ’cause Iceman Slim didn’t even play pro ball ’til ’73. (He was in the ABA ’til ’76.)

    But, really, who cares?

  • Kyle at IU | May 29, 2007 at 5:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”94372″]To continue the state university talk, Indiana is also IU, despite the fact many people refer to them as “the university of indiana.” what’s funny is that this usually only applies to references to the football team. It seems they never mess up when talking about the basketball team.[/quote]

    The miniature championship banners and the shirts in my closet are telling me to kill you…

    Nah, J/K. Still, I do get seriously ticked when I hear anyone say “University of Indiana”. Unlike our friends in Big XII world, we like to keep our abbreviations consistent with the university names (IU, PU, NU, OSU, UW, PSU, etc, etc)

  • Dwight | May 29, 2007 at 5:04 pm |

    Just to add $.02. Here in Texas, Longhorns refer to the campus in Austing as UT (as in the University OF Texas). Those fans of A&M refer to it as TU (Texas University)- refusing to refer to the burt-orange clad as the preferred University. FYI.

  • Brian K. | May 29, 2007 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”94193″][quote comment=”94174″]i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
    pic

    more pictures

    why don’t softball players wear hats?[/quote]

    Here’s my strange guess:

    Baseball’s a game that came around when people wore hats all the time. The athletes needed the hat, then. (Seriously, we might throw a fit if baseball didn’t have caps tomorrow, but would the performance change?)

    Softball’s a game that came around when people did NOT wear hats all the time in public, and I think that the softball uniform reflects that.[/quote]
    also why is the infield all dirt

  • Dwight | May 29, 2007 at 5:05 pm |

    And that should be in Austin, not Austing.

  • CV | May 29, 2007 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”94124″]Between the all-red Indians uniform, the White Sox shorts, and the Pirates’ yellow stripes, it just goes to show how BAD uniforms were in the 70’s.[/quote]

    Man, I have to admit, I LOVED the yellow pinstripe unis of the late 70’s Pirates. I’m with you one the other two though.

    The road Mich St. unis are so dull. I hate the white/white look.

  • Go Blue | May 29, 2007 at 5:11 pm |

    The soccer jerseys are all wrong. Just go to Chelsea or Rwngers’ online store and you will quickly see the examples this joker gives are completely hosed up.

  • Bendert | May 29, 2007 at 5:39 pm |

    I’m sure other people noticed but the Oklahoma in black video featured a reference to the Boston Red Sox and their green uni’s that they wore to honor Red Auerbach. The video showed a split screen, which included a picture of Nomar Garciaparra who of course no longer plays for the BoSox making it clear that the reference to the green uni’s really included a picture of the St. Patty’s Day game, not the Red Auerbach one.

  • Matthew S. | May 29, 2007 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”94263″]Ok, I don’t know if it was mentioned already today (I was too lazy to read through all the comments) but they do still have somewhat of a uni display in Cooperstown. I went just last year, and instead of having an old display like that, they have a new room where every team in represented in a “locker.” In the locker, each team had at least one jersey hanging up, with some teams having multiple jerseys. (if you zoom into that Padres’ picture, you can see a patch of the game they played vs the Mets in Mexico in I believe 1997). Also in this “locker room,” there were some other jerseys, such as Dice-K’s jersey from the World Baseball Classic. Gotta love those embroidered helmet decals.

    A few other things I saw uni-related:

    – There was a display from the previous year’s World Series, featuring three game worn jerseys .

    – A close up of a Phillies (I believe) zip-up jersey.

    – Curt Schilling’s bloody sock.

    Here’s another view of that hat Stengel wore. As you can see, the logo’s stretched all the way around it.

    – Some of Ted Williams old gear, including those ever-famous Red Sox striped stirrups. Check out the #9 at the bottom of the stirrup. I never noticed that until just now.

    – Uni’s from baseball movies, including The Rookie, and The Natural.

    I got other things, but I’m getting tired of linking everything. Real quick, though, in closing. The reason we went up to Cooperstown was because my little brother had a baseball tournament at the Cooperstown Dreams Park. Very nice facility, great place to play/watch a game. Anyways, in order to avoid uni-corresponding confusion (with over 100 teams there, it would be easy to have a game where two teams are wearing generally similar uniforms) the park gave out two jerseys to each team. A red one, and a blue one. Another rule they imposed was that each player had to wear their socks high. If not, they’d be removed from the game. Well, my little brother usually wore his pants low, as you can kinda see here. However, this tournament forced him to wear them high, and as a result hit his first home run. Later he hit his second off Roger Clemens’ son’s team, with the Rocket in attendance.[/quote]

    I think the red Astros jersey on the right is actually the jersey Chris Burke wore in the NLDS against the Braves when he hit a walkoff solo HR in the 18th inning. I suppose it’s possible he wore it in the World Series too, but it seems like the Hall would’ve wanted a Biggio jersey to go along with that Jeff Bagwell #5 since it was the first (and only for Bags) World Series for both of them.

  • FriarBolt | May 29, 2007 at 5:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”94182″]Regarding the Mets uniform in this photo, is the outlining of “Mets” in red, or a very dark orange? It doesn’t look like it matches the orange on the cap or the orange in 2007’s uniforms.[/quote]
    I’m not afmiliar with that uniform. These Mets you refer to, that can’t be the same team as the Mets of New York can it. Their primary color is black, isn’t it?

    And yes, I’m being sarcastic

  • Kerry | May 29, 2007 at 5:56 pm |

    Personally, I actually LIKE when the jerseys have the LOGO ABOVE the NAMEPLATE. But I don’t necessarily like the rest of the jersey automatically.

  • Matthew S. | May 29, 2007 at 5:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”94380″]Aside from the torn pant leg, note that the American flag is worn backwards by Brad Snyder as well.

    Did you mean he’s wearing the flag on the wrong sleeve? The flag itself is displayed just fine.[/quote]

    I think this subject has come up numerous times and one day it was discussed ad nauseam, so I won’t get into too far other than to say that when the flag appears on the right side of something or the right sleeve of a person, it’s supposed to face with the blue field in the right hand corner like on the space shuttle.

    Space Shuttle Atlantis: http://www.universet...

    U.S. Soldier: http://www.flagpride...

  • Kerry | May 29, 2007 at 5:58 pm |

    Aghhhhh. My post was just eaten.

  • Andy from KC | May 29, 2007 at 6:00 pm |

    Thank you, Lauren for post #127! :)

    I won’t go off on a long anti-black-uni rant, since it’s been done to death, but that video pretty much echoes my sentiments. Black can be beautiful (Raiders, White Sox, Gretzky-era Kings), but to make that big a change to a team’s color scheme just to be trendy? That has no place in sports. (OK, I guess it does, but it shouldn’t.)

  • Perry | May 29, 2007 at 6:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”94398″][quote comment=”94180″][quote comment=”94178″][quote comment=”94174″]i went to my 2nd & 3rd softball games ever to watch Baylor win a trip to the Women’s College World Series on Saturday. I noticed that the pitchers have extra leather (or whatever) on their shoes since they drag their toe in their motion. they’re not in the act of pitching, but the two girls in front are pitchers and the ones in back are not-
    pic

    more pictures

    why don’t softball players wear hats?[/quote]

    This is just a guess…but maybe their pony tails get in the way.[/quote]
    I’ve seen a few wear visors, but its definitely not ‘uniform’.[/quote]

    Back in the mid 90’s there was a Nike tennis shoe called the air resistance that had a huge toe on it that was supposedly made of kevlar so that tennis players wouldn’t ruin thier shoes by dragging the toe on the serve followthrough. I had a pair in High School but by the time I got to college they stopped making them[/quote]

    Those were my favorite tennis shoes. The best part was that they would replace them if you wore through the shoe, which I always did. I would still buy that shoe (even without the guarantee) if they made it. I tried several other Nike tennis shoes, but I never found one I liked after they stopped making the Air Resistance. That’s the way it goes with athletic shoes, though, especially from Nike. If they make one I like, they change or drop the style after a year or 2.

  • Jordan | May 29, 2007 at 6:07 pm |

    the official anthem of uniwatch

  • Jim | May 29, 2007 at 6:08 pm |

    Kansas being referred to as “KU” is one of those “just because” things. Even prior to the turn of the last century, you can find references to “KU” in articles and photos.

    It has nothing to do with “conflicting” with Kentucky, or Big 8 symmetry, it’s just always been that way – our alma mater concludes with “Hail to Old K.U.”

    (I’ve also seen really old articles that refer to Kansas as “KSU”, back in the days when that godawful purple-wearing school down the road was the “Kansas State Agricultural College.”)

  • Colin | May 29, 2007 at 6:08 pm |

    I just saw a question on JEOPARDY! that said that the Nike uniforms worn by Islamic women in the Asian Game were actually a join effort between Nike and the United Nations. PL wrote about the unis, but I cant find it in the archives. I don’t know if the connection was made at all. I think that’s a pretty solid effort by Nike, even if you don’t like them most of the time.

  • Jim | May 29, 2007 at 6:12 pm |

    I also have to agree that 78-79 or so was when Nike really started gaining traction as “the shoes for the cool kids”. That was 8th grade for me, and Nikes were everywhere.

    But since my father was firmly in the “I’m not paying $30 for a pair of tennis shoes!” camp, “everywhere” didn’t include my house.

  • =bg= | May 29, 2007 at 6:13 pm |

    bonus points to anyone who recognizes those two fellows with CLemens in the first link.

  • =bg= | May 29, 2007 at 6:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”94467″]I also have to agree that 78-79 or so was when Nike really started gaining traction as “the shoes for the cool kids”. That was 8th grade for me, and Nikes were everywhere.

    But since my father was firmly in the “I’m not paying $30 for a pair of tennis shoes!” camp, “everywhere” didn’t include my house.[/quote]

    I believe I was the first guy @ Mariemont HS to wear Nike. (The All-courts.” We had a Puma Clyde school. blue/yellow or yellow/black. THE official shoe. People kept asking me about the design.

    BTW, my first great pair of shoes- 29.95 in 1972 for the Adidas ABA Americana. Couldn’t believe they cost that much, heheh.

  • FriarBolt | May 29, 2007 at 6:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”94121″][quote comment=”94109″]I’m pretty sure Gaylord Perry wore that uniform for some MLB sponsored old-timers game. I can’t remember if it took place during the All-Star break, or Hall of Fame induction, but I remember seeing it on tv. I could be wrong though, of course.[/quote]

    I believe he wore it for the Old-timer’s game at the All-Star Game back in the early 90s (1992?).[/quote]
    I attended one of those Old-timer’s games in 1987 and Gaylord wore that jersey (or one similar to it). The game featured old-timers who played in California versus old-timers that played in the other states.

  • concealed78 | May 29, 2007 at 6:19 pm |

    That authentic old Padres hat puts all of the replicas to shame. What an awesome pic. It just bugs me all to hell they can’t reproduce that cap accurately, and with such blasphemy results, too.

  • chris | May 29, 2007 at 6:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”94425″][quote comment=”94372″]To continue the state university talk, Indiana is also IU, despite the fact many people refer to them as “the university of indiana.” what’s funny is that this usually only applies to references to the football team. It seems they never mess up when talking about the basketball team.[/quote]

    The miniature championship banners and the shirts in my closet are telling me to kill you…

    Nah, J/K. Still, I do get seriously ticked when I hear anyone say “University of Indiana”. Unlike our friends in Big XII world, we like to keep our abbreviations consistent with the university names (IU, PU, NU, OSU, UW, PSU, etc, etc)[/quote]

    Everyone knows my school in the state of minnesota as the “U” or the “U of M” not “UM” because of hated michigan and “MU” because of marquette potentially, plus it sounds horrible.

  • Kyle at IU | May 29, 2007 at 7:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”94482″][quote comment=”94425″][quote comment=”94372″]To continue the state university talk, Indiana is also IU, despite the fact many people refer to them as “the university of indiana.” what’s funny is that this usually only applies to references to the football team. It seems they never mess up when talking about the basketball team.[/quote]

    The miniature championship banners and the shirts in my closet are telling me to kill you…

    Nah, J/K. Still, I do get seriously ticked when I hear anyone say “University of Indiana”. Unlike our friends in Big XII world, we like to keep our abbreviations consistent with the university names (IU, PU, NU, OSU, UW, PSU, etc, etc)[/quote]

    Everyone knows my school in the state of minnesota as the “U” or the “U of M” not “UM” because of hated michigan and “MU” because of marquette potentially, plus it sounds horrible.[/quote]

    Yeah, I did leave out a couple on my list there. I know Illinois is commonly referred to as U of I, but I’m not 100% sure what Iowa is. I don’t get much news out of Minnesota, so now I know about the U of M thing. And, since we’ve mentioned every other school, I’ll give MSU and their sort-of-new uniforms a shout out.

    And now for something completely different…mets have the stripes with the black hats. booo

  • Neil | May 29, 2007 at 7:14 pm |

    Haven’t noticed anyone else wearing it but tonight Carlos Gomez is wearing the black mets hat with a blue brim but the NY has white in it like on all the all black hats. Definitely the first I have ever seen of this…

  • warren thompson | May 29, 2007 at 7:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”94387″][quote comment=”94283″].
    Blame it all on the Nazis, when in 1932 invented black uniforms, designing them for their SS military, before going on a variety of humanitarian maneuvers. Why anyone would want to mimic the Nazis is a question you’ll have to answer in your own heart of hearts.[/quote]

    “Blame it all on the Nazis”? That’s a stretch. There were Prussian [i.e., German] Hussars who sported black uniforms as far back as the 18th century, complete with skull and crossbones. As well, some German cavalry regiments wore black in the early 20th century.

  • Brian Erni | May 29, 2007 at 7:35 pm |

    well, here’s an interesting occurrence at shea. mets in their pinstripes with the black and blue hats. but carlos gomez has the crown of the all black hat with a blue bill in the top of the 1st. paul, i’m sending you a screen shot.

  • Brian Erni | May 29, 2007 at 7:36 pm |

    Haven’t noticed anyone else wearing it but tonight Carlos Gomez is wearing the black mets hat with a blue brim but the NY has white in it like on all the all black hats. Definitely the first I have ever seen of this…

    sorry, neil, i didn’t see your comment. crazy, right?

  • Kyle at IU | May 29, 2007 at 7:42 pm |

    Here’s something strange: The cap atop Juan Pierre’s head in his roster photo has a green underbill. Any explanation?

    Pierre

  • Tim | May 29, 2007 at 8:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”94400″]
    rugby numbers are set in stone, you cannot wear a number that isnt assigned with your position. And in the case of helping the referee: yes, there are certain rules backs/forwads must adhere to, more along the lines of elgigible/ineligible recever recognition in football[/quote]

    Rugby numbers are only set in stone nowadays. Before rugby went professional you had Leicester (and a couple of other clubs) wearing letters (previously mentioned). Also, for some reason, unfortunately I don’t know what that reason is, Bath rarely used the number 13 shirt. Resulting in the outside centre wearing 14, the right-wing wearing 15, and the full-back getting 16 (Jon Callard was the lucky recipient that I can remember).

  • Jeff B | May 29, 2007 at 8:36 pm |

    Just watching the Cubs game, and the Cubs are wearing their home white pinstripes. I don’t know how many teams have this, but in the armpits of their jerseys, there is a mesh material. I just noticed because it is not pinstriped, so it stood out. Do all teams have this, or at least the option on warmer days?

  • Joey Guns | May 29, 2007 at 8:37 pm |

    The Yankees announcers just mentioned how their 3rd base coach, Larry Bowa, has the high pants tonight.

  • Matthew S. | May 29, 2007 at 8:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”94528″]Just watching the Cubs game, and the Cubs are wearing their home white pinstripes. I don’t know how many teams have this, but in the armpits of their jerseys, there is a mesh material. I just noticed because it is not pinstriped, so it stood out. Do all teams have this, or at least the option on warmer days?[/quote]

    It’s called a Cool Base jersey. They premiered across the league for hot weather games last season. All teams have at least one Cool Base version jersey.

    Examples:

    Dodgers home: http://mlb.imageg.ne...

    Royals alternate: http://mlb.imageg.ne...

    Astros away alternate: http://www.playersar...

    Phillies home: http://spln.imageg.n...

  • mg12 | May 29, 2007 at 9:14 pm |

    Speaking of uniform cameos and oddities. Todd McFarlane have combined both of these into his latest Wayne Gretzky figure.

    http://www.spawn.com...

    It is “The Great One” sporting that odd slanting striped version of the St. Louis Blues jersey from the 1996 season where he played a quick 31 games with the blue-notes. It’s a must-have for me.

  • neil | May 29, 2007 at 9:22 pm |

    Brian, when I first saw it I had to rewind it to make sure I wasn’t going nuts. I haven’t noticed anyone else wearing it.

  • Robert | May 29, 2007 at 9:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”94528″]Just watching the Cubs game, and the Cubs are wearing their home white pinstripes. I don’t know how many teams have this, but in the armpits of their jerseys, there is a mesh material. I just noticed because it is not pinstriped, so it stood out. Do all teams have this, or at least the option on warmer days?[/quote]

    That is the Cool Base jersey that debuted last year.

  • nybatt | May 29, 2007 at 9:32 pm |

    Even more bizarre from tonight’s yankee game (besides the straight steal of home) is the fact that first base coach tony pena has PULLED HIS PANTS UP MID-GAME!! sometime between the sixth and eighth inning!!

    by the way the comment from john flaherty on the YES network incorrectly stated that bowa “pulled his socks up” not his pants!!

  • DAVID | May 29, 2007 at 9:35 pm |

    yes..the bulls wore those uniforms..the red ones had chicago in script going up and the baseball style side numbers…doesnt anyone remember jordns first few seasons???
    wow…

  • Mike Engle | May 29, 2007 at 9:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”94552″]yes..the bulls wore those uniforms..the red ones had chicago in script going up and the baseball style side numbers…doesnt anyone remember jordns first few seasons???
    wow…[/quote]
    And the backs had plain block letters, as opposed to the fancier two-tone typeface…no, I don’t remember those. (That was sarcasm.)

  • Mr. Met | May 29, 2007 at 9:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”94502″]Haven’t noticed anyone else wearing it but tonight Carlos Gomez is wearing the black mets hat with a blue brim but the NY has white in it like on all the all black hats. Definitely the first I have ever seen of this…

    sorry, neil, i didn’t see your comment. crazy, right?[/quote]

    How could something like that get by New Era’s quality control?

  • Dave Sikula | May 29, 2007 at 9:40 pm |

    I saw Casey Stengel wear that jersey at a Dodger old-timers game in the 70s. Don’t know if it was made for that appearance of the Yankee game, but I’d guess it was the former.

  • Joey Guns | May 29, 2007 at 9:45 pm |

    Balco Bonds is pitch hitting at Shea tonight. A chant of “You did steroids” just started, and was pointed out by the announcers! haha

  • Wayne | May 29, 2007 at 10:05 pm |

    I’m watching the Cardinals-Rockies game, and in the top of the 4th inning the announcers were talking about Matt Holliday. The cameras showed Holliday standing in the outfield during their chat, and suddenly Holliday busts out a long pack of seeds and pour some into his mouth, then put the pack back into his back pocket. I thought that was pretty funny. I’ve never seen a player carry a big pack of seeds onto the field before.

  • Joey Guns | May 29, 2007 at 10:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”94549″]Even more bizarre from tonight’s yankee game (besides the straight steal of home) is the fact that first base coach tony pena has PULLED HIS PANTS UP MID-GAME!! sometime between the sixth and eighth inning!!

    by the way the comment from john flaherty on the YES network incorrectly stated that bowa “pulled his socks up” not his pants!![/quote]

    3rd base coach Larry Bowa had his pants up the whole game. Very odd. Whatever……..it didn’t work! haha

  • A Devoted Uniwatcher | May 29, 2007 at 10:07 pm |

    Hey, I’m watching the Marlins Cubs game and in the 4th or 5th inning when Aramis Ramirez made a nice play at third base but then botched the throw at first, it looks like Derrek Lee is wearing number 26 (he is normally 25). I Can’t find a pic yet, as none have surfaced. Maybe it was just a weird fold of the jersey, but it is worth taking note of.

  • Joey Guns | May 29, 2007 at 10:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”94567″]I’m watching the Cardinals-Rockies game, and in the top of the 4th inning the announcers were talking about Matt Holliday. The cameras showed Holliday standing in the outfield during their chat, and suddenly Holliday busts out a long pack of seeds and pour some into his mouth, then put the pack back into his back pocket. I thought that was pretty funny. I’ve never seen a player carry a big pack of seeds onto the field before.[/quote]

    A lot of players have seeds or dip in their pockets. Last year Cliff Floyd always used to have tons of seeds in his back pocket, and he’d pop a few in his mouth in between pitches.

  • Wayne | May 29, 2007 at 10:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”94572″][quote comment=”94567″]I’m watching the Cardinals-Rockies game, and in the top of the 4th inning the announcers were talking about Matt Holliday. The cameras showed Holliday standing in the outfield during their chat, and suddenly Holliday busts out a long pack of seeds and pour some into his mouth, then put the pack back into his back pocket. I thought that was pretty funny. I’ve never seen a player carry a big pack of seeds onto the field before.[/quote]

    A lot of players have seeds or dip in their pockets.

    Last year Cliff Floyd always used to have tons of seeds in his back pocket, and he’d pop a few in his mouth in between pitches.[/quote]

    I know a lot of players carry seeds or dip, but I’ve never seen a player have such a big pack of seeds like the pack Holliday had. It was like one of those long jumbo packs you can get at a 7-Eleven.

    Jose Oquendo (Cards’ 3rd base coach) came in to be Braden Looper’s warmup catcher in the bottom of the 4th inning because Yadi Molina got hurt on a foul ball. He put on just a helmet and glove and caught a few warmups. Oquendo caught a few games for the Cards back in the day, but boy it didn’t look like Oquendo could squat too low anymore with that big gut he has now. Pretty funny sight.

  • Sir Jock Strap | May 29, 2007 at 10:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”94337″][quote comment=”94324″][quote comment=”94313″][quote comment=”94301″]yikes …[/quote]

    I just threw up in my mouth a little.[/quote]

    Why can’t that picture be of 2 girls?

    Just my $0.02[/quote]

    or of jamie kotsay…
    very nice…[/quote]

    You’d think that if you were going to shell out that kind of money for a jersey, you’d at least buy the matching pro-cap.

  • Joey Guns | May 29, 2007 at 10:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”94583″][quote comment=”94337″][quote comment=”94324″][quote comment=”94313″][quote comment=”94301″]yikes …[/quote]

    I just threw up in my mouth a little.[/quote]

    Why can’t that picture be of 2 girls?

    Just my $0.02[/quote]

    or of jamie kotsay…
    very nice…[/quote]

    You’d think that if you were going to shell out that kind of money for a jersey, you’d at least buy the matching pro-cap.[/quote]

    He probably has a guy’s name on the back of the jersey too……

    I wonder who’s the pitcher and who’s the catcher? lol

  • schuby | May 29, 2007 at 10:59 pm |

    It has been said that the Met’s black-blue cap is different than the black-blue helmet, but i don’t see it. Could someone explain this?

  • Mike Engle | May 29, 2007 at 11:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”94590″]It has been said that the Met’s black-blue cap is different than the black-blue helmet, but i don’t see it. Could someone explain this?[/quote]
    Basically, the two-tone helmet has a blue brim that bleeds up onto the black crown of the helmet. The black and blue ball cap has a royal brim and a black crown, with a distinct separation of colors. Does that explain it?

  • Mr. Met | May 29, 2007 at 11:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”94590″]It has been said that the Met’s black-blue cap is different than the black-blue helmet, but i don’t see it. Could someone explain this?[/quote]

    Big difference.

    The Colorado Rockies also have mismatched helmets and caps.

  • Skip Lockwood | May 29, 2007 at 11:24 pm |

    Ahh…the sigh….all these years on and I’d still like to think that the ultimate goal of Uni Watch is the elimination of black from the Mets’ uniform repertoire and the return of the vintage 1965-1973 uniforms.

  • Stuby | May 29, 2007 at 11:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”94591″][quote comment=”94590″]It has been said that the Met’s black-blue cap is different than the black-blue helmet, but i don’t see it. Could someone explain this?[/quote]
    Basically, the two-tone helmet has a blue brim that bleeds up onto the black crown of the helmet. The black and blue ball cap has a royal brim and a black crown, with a distinct separation of colors. Does that explain it?[/quote]
    I don’t see the purpose for the two-tone helmet at all. If they started with the black hats to move more merchandise, why have a different batting helmet? Are fans buying batting helmets like that and wearing them out in public?

  • schuby | May 29, 2007 at 11:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”94598″][quote comment=”94590″]It has been said that the Met’s black-blue cap is different than the black-blue helmet, but i don’t see it. Could someone explain this?[/quote]

    Big difference.

    The Colorado Rockies also have mismatched helmets and caps.[/quote]

    I got that, but I don’t realize why people make a big deal about it. That’s how the Cool-Flo helmets are made, with the flares going back. I just didn’t think that that made much of a difference.

  • TD | May 29, 2007 at 11:42 pm |

    Rockies: seven straight wins in the purples, and more dreadful NL Central opponents waiting. Double Yoi.

  • Mr. Met | May 29, 2007 at 11:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”94599″]Ahh…the sigh….all these years on and I’d still like to think that the ultimate goal of Uni Watch is the elimination of black from the Mets’ uniform repertoire and the return of the vintage 1965-1973 uniforms.[/quote]

    The black is pretty much here to stay, for the foreseeable future anyway. If the Mets didn’t ditch the black after the putrid Al Howe years and go traditional blue/orange with the Minaya/Randolph regime, then they’re not going to do it anytime soon, barring something like an ownership change and a new owner who likes the traditional unis.

    I personally don’t mind the black, but I think if the Mets did something like set a uni-schedule, then more people might deal with it.

    Home weekday games: Snow-white alternates with blue caps
    Home weekend and evening games: Pinstripes with blue caps
    Sunday games: Black alternates (home or road games)
    Road games: Road grays with black/blue caps.

    Something like that would guarantee blue/orange love and keep the black to a minimum. Because while something like the “Ditch the Black” campaign is a noble idea, it’s like a pimple on the ass of the Mets operations; you know it’s there, but eventually you just ignore it after the initial discomfort.

  • Joey Guns | May 29, 2007 at 11:55 pm |

    Not uni-related at all, but……

    ESPN reporter Erin Andrews showed up on the Shea scoreboard Kiss Cam. She obliged, kissing her hand and planting it on her cameraman’s cheek.

  • Mr. Met | May 29, 2007 at 11:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”94601″][quote comment=”94598″][quote comment=”94590″]It has been said that the Met’s black-blue cap is different than the black-blue helmet, but i don’t see it. Could someone explain this?[/quote]

    Big difference.

    The Colorado Rockies also have mismatched helmets and caps.[/quote]

    I got that, but I don’t realize why people make a big deal about it. That’s how the Cool-Flo helmets are made, with the flares going back. I just didn’t think that that made much of a difference.[/quote]

    Are you serious? Two things: (a) This is Uni-Watch, and (b) this is exactly the type of thing that people on this site make a “big deal” about.

    Some of the Braves use the Cool-Flo helmets as well, but they kept the navy crown with the red brim to match the caps. Why couldn’t the Mets and Rockies have done that?

    Therein lies the question……

  • RefUni | May 30, 2007 at 12:02 am |

    [quote comment=”94151″]The Marlins radio announcers discussed Cabrera’s shoes on Sunday. The lead announcer said they looked like someone had started with the A’s old white shoes and then gone to town.

    The same announcer also said the following (in paraphrase): “Miguel wearing his pants up today. Some people say he is wearing his socks up, but ballplayers wear their socks that way everyday. So it is incorrect to say that. He is wearing his pants legs up high.”

    Excellent analysis. I just wish I knew who the broadcaster was. (Listening to the game on XM while away from NY because I wanted to hear the Mets game.)[/quote]

    Isn;t Dave Van Horn the Marlin’s play by play guy?

    Stole him out of Montreal …

  • jake | May 30, 2007 at 12:21 am |

    Love the ode to Walker Evans in the title

  • Mr. Met | May 30, 2007 at 12:34 am |

    [quote comment=”94611″][quote comment=”94151″]The Marlins radio announcers discussed Cabrera’s shoes on Sunday. The lead announcer said they looked like someone had started with the A’s old white shoes and then gone to town.

    The same announcer also said the following (in paraphrase): “Miguel wearing his pants up today. Some people say he is wearing his socks up, but ballplayers wear their socks that way everyday. So it is incorrect to say that. He is wearing his pants legs up high.”

    Excellent analysis. I just wish I knew who the broadcaster was. (Listening to the game on XM while away from NY because I wanted to hear the Mets game.)[/quote]

    Isn;t Dave Van Horn the Marlin’s play by play guy?

    Stole him out of Montreal …[/quote]

    It’s great listening to the Mets current trio of Ron Darling, Gary Cohen and Keith Hernandez. They tend to discuss topics like uniforms on a regular basis. Mex in particular likes to point out stuff like proper stirrups and the use of shoulder patches……

    Hands down, though, the most entertaining booth duo in recent memory for the Mets had to be the weekend announcing team of Gary Thorne and Tom Seaver. Before they started doing double duty on SNY and the CW-11, the Mets had different announcing teams for FSNY/MSG and WPIX-11. The cable side had the horrendous Fran Healy, Ted Robinson, Howie Rose (both very underrated play-by-play guys IMHO), and Mex. The WPIX side had Thorne and Seaver. Keeping in mind that these were the tempestuous Bobby Valentine years, there was never a shortage of tabloid fodder, and Thorne and Seaver would take it and run with it. They had no problem ripping Valentine, or the Mets, on the air, and on more than one occasion infuriated Mets ownership with their honesty and habit of calling a spade a spade. These two did not sugarcoat anything. Eventually it got Thorne fired (under the guise that his ESPN hockey duties were interfering with this Mets work) and led to the hiring of Dave O’Brien, who ironically was almost a dead-ringer for Thorne vocally, and whose ESPN MLS and baseball work interfered more with his Mets duties than Thorne.

    Sorry for the departure from uni-talk.

  • Vincent A. Cipollone | May 30, 2007 at 12:36 am |

    [quote comment=”94601″][quote comment=”94598″][quote comment=”94590″]It has been said that the Met’s black-blue cap is different than the black-blue helmet, but i don’t see it. Could someone explain this?[/quote]

    Big difference.

    The Colorado Rockies also have mismatched helmets and caps.[/quote]

    I got that, but I don’t realize why people make a big deal about it. That’s how the Cool-Flo helmets are made, with the flares going back. I just didn’t think that that made much of a difference.[/quote]

    The NY in the hat and the NY in the helmet are what’s different

  • jg | May 30, 2007 at 12:40 am |

    I checked back through here- apparently must have been the only person watching Det-TB earlier on Extra Innings when they announced new D-Rays unis for 2008- said they fast-tracked it and would have done it sooner if they could have

  • Frank Mercogliano | May 30, 2007 at 1:13 am |

    Great video here of a Cubs/Expos game with Bill Murray announcing from either 1985 or 1986, but it’s notable because the umpires didn’t have gear, and Eric Gregg was struggling to find equipment for his large frame to wear behind home plate.

    Frank

  • lemonverbena | May 30, 2007 at 5:23 am |

    [quote comment=”94143″]It is my understanding that Nike started making basketball shoes in the mid 70’s. In fact, due to their close proximity to Portland (Beaverton is HQ for Swooshville) their famous ‘Blazer’ sneaker was inspired by/for the Portland Trail’Blazers’ blah blah[/quote]

    reminds me of growing up in western WA, when we all wore Nikes before you BANDWAGONERS jacked our style…

    :)

  • diz | May 30, 2007 at 7:18 am |

    [quote comment=”94520″][quote comment=”94400″]
    rugby numbers are set in stone, you cannot wear a number that isnt assigned with your position. And in the case of helping the referee: yes, there are certain rules backs/forwads must adhere to, more along the lines of elgigible/ineligible recever recognition in football[/quote]

    Rugby numbers are only set in stone nowadays. Before rugby went professional you had Leicester (and a couple of other clubs) wearing letters (previously mentioned). Also, for some reason, unfortunately I don’t know what that reason is, Bath rarely used the number 13 shirt. Resulting in the outside centre wearing 14, the right-wing wearing 15, and the full-back getting 16 (Jon Callard was the lucky recipient that I can remember).[/quote]

    The numbers have been set in stone for ages (possibly a century by now,) with Leicester, Bath (who I forgot about… no ‘unlucky’ 13 for them) and Richmond etc being exceptions for a long while. English clubs are all squad numbers now though :(

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 30, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”94380″]Aside from the torn pant leg, note that the American flag is worn backwards by Brad Snyder as well.

    Did you mean he’s wearing the flag on the wrong sleeve? The flag itself is displayed just fine.[/quote]

    Nope. Should be on the other sleeve due to the way the field of blue is situated. The field of blue should either be in the top right corner of the patch, or the patch should be on the other sleeve.

  • lemonverbena | May 30, 2007 at 12:23 pm |

    this shot of the Pilots’ uni and the first Brewers uni is very cool. i heard that same story, that they were literally the Pilots’ unis with the lettering removed. but the part that i haven’t seen actual evidence of is that they still had the stitch holes from the Pilots lettering and insignia. i was never a Pilots fan since i was born the same year they moved, but as a Seattle fan in general i’d love to see a photo of that.

    and this Pilots home white uni has plain lettering and no insignia. maybe a spring training jersey? since this shot is of a ‘Pilots farmhand that didn’t make the team’… Twins manager Tom Kelly.

    Aside from the torn pant leg, note that the American flag is worn backwards by Brad Snyder as well.

    my understanding is that, according to military standards, the field of blue in the U.S. flag has to be the leading edge of the flag. it looks ‘backwards’ if worn on the right armband, for instance, but the idea is that the flag is being borne forward into the wind, with the front edge the ‘flagpole’. so those flags on the right side of the hat were seriously flawed. it’s disappointing that MLB would just send out a bunch of flag patches and tell the teams to stick them on instead of closely mandating their use.

  • lemonverbena | May 30, 2007 at 12:26 pm |

    Sweet Lou also wore this version.

  • Josh | May 30, 2007 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”94506″]Here’s something strange: The cap atop Juan Pierre’s head in his roster photo has a green underbill. Any explanation?

    Pierre[/quote]

    Most mugshots are taken in spring training. Notice how big the cap sits on his head. Most likely it’s a replica adjustable cap that the photographer brought for the pics. Many teams don’t bring their game caps (only the spring / BP caps ) to Florida or AZ for Spring Training, so when they take their mugshots the photog just hands them an adjustable cap to wear.

  • HBeezy | June 3, 2007 at 11:09 pm |

    [quote]• I can remember the first time I saw the catalog page with the little uniform swatches shown at the left side of this photo. “Man,” I thought, “I sure would love to have some catalogs like that!” Now, of course, I do.[/quote]

    Some gems in your shot of the swatches!
    http://farm1.static....

    “BROOKLYN” down the buttonline. Awesome.

    “BRAVES” with the “V” in the buttonline. Quirky.

    And a MLB team with an elephant logo? Explain. Somebody. Please.