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Sleeveless in Chicago

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Before we get started with today’s entry: I ended up making an important addition to yesterday’s ESPN column at about noon eastern. If you read it prior to then and weren’t keeping track of yesterday morning’s comments, you may want to check it out again, because the mystery of Nomar’s pin (and Manny’s too!) has been solved.

Now then: Got a note the other day from longtime Uni Watch contributor Bryan Redemske, who’s noticed something really interesting:

Mark Buehrle has been wearing cycling arm-warmers under his jersey, instead of a long-sleeved undershirt — specifically, these. You can see the blacked-out Pearl Izumi logo on his left sleeve in this pic — mid-forearm, facing down. And the logo is in very plain sight here. A couple of my buddies have those arm-warmers, and the way they shine in the light is exactly the same.

Coupla thoughts here: First of all, I had no idea there was even such a thing as cycling arm-warmers. Second, this brings up the interesting issue of players using equipment intended for use in another sport. Leaving aside the issue of footwear (there’s a lot cross-sport action there), the first things that come to mind are football facemasks, which have been worn by several baseball players and at least one hockey player. And then there’s Dave Parker, who at various times wore a football facemask and a hockey goalie’s mask (although the latter was only for one plate appearance, which resulted in a walk).

There have also been lots of baseball players who’ve worn golf gloves, and football players who’ve worn batting gloves or scuba gloves. Plus I’m sure there are plenty of other cross-sport examples that I’m not thinking of — let’s have ’em.

Attention Jeremy Brahm!: Got a rather frustrating note yesterday from Ben Wood, as follows:

If you’re ever back in the Twin Cities, you should check out the Ragstock Warehouse in Minneapolis’s downtown warehouse district. Their large selection of used clothes includes a nice collection of Japanese baseball jerseys (which I assume are from high schools or amateur leagues), most of which are under $10 [additional pics here, here, and here]. Some of them have those pinned-on squares of fabric holding the rear uniform number, and some even have all the lettering done up with black Magic Marker. Sorry I didn’t send these to you before your trip to Minneapolis, but the pics have been stuck on my girlfriend’s camera for some time.

Sigh. Now he tells me.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Good article here about tennis equipment sponsorships (with thanks to Dominic Litten). … Mike Milici — the guy who wrote the cap surgery instrux that many of you have found so useful — has posted a bunch of Phillies clubhouse photos on his blog. Among the revelations: Ryan Howard has an Astros jersey hanging in his locker. Further details here and here. … “Last season, Pelle Prestberg, a player for Frolunda HC in the Swedish Elite hockey league, wore No. 100, instead of his usual No. 10,” writes R. J. Pratt. “Based on my VERY rudimentary Swedish knowledge and use of online translators, it appears that he wore it during 2005-06 to ‘celebrate’ the 100th anniversary of Lofsberg Lila, one of Frolunda’s sponsors (as I’m sure you’re aware, European hockey teams have long been victims of extreme logo creep, to the point where the team logos are often secondary). But that’s not the worst. Check out this photo, which shows the team wearing shiny metallic gold helmets. Perhaps the scariest hockey outfit ever worn.” … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: All the Pro Football Hall of Fame inductees are listed by uniform number here. … The Florida Marlins could become the Miami Marlins, according to this report. … The party line is the college football helmt merit decals originated with Ohio State in 1968. But according to this interview (kindly forwarded by Brian Hansen), Nebraska was doing it as early as 1956. To find the relevant portion of the interview, search on the word “Stauber” and read that paragraph. … Ottawa mayor Larry O’Brien wore a Senators jersey (the “M” is presumably for mayor) during a pep rally yesterday (as spotted by Bryan Redemske). … Quasi-logo-related item from Kim Kolb, who writes, “Thought you’d might want to check this out. Who are they? They’re the supporters’ group for the Philadelphia MLS team. Never mind that Philadelphia does not (yet) have an MLS team. They’ve organized, come up with a pretty good name and logo, and even gotten some press. They’ve even got a road trip planned to head up to Giants Stadium to boo the New York Red Bulls, because what Philadelphia sports entity can exist without a little hate for NY? Anyway, they picked the yellow and blue (hoping that a soccer team would follow suit) to match the Philadelphia flag.” … Holy crap.

Holiday Schedule: We’ll have open threads for at least two of the next three days. I might have a new entry on Sunday or Monday — or I might not. Either way, the Uni Watch membership program should be ready to launch when we reconvene next week. Have a great Decoration Day weekend, and watch out for American flag patches falling off of MLB caps.

 

204 comments to Sleeveless in Chicago

  • Gregg | May 25, 2007 at 8:43 am |

    Have the Mets given up on wearing those dreadful batting practice caps? I noticed that during last night’s pregame, the players and coaches were wearing the traditional (read–blue) 5950 caps with their practice jerseys. Since they never wear blue hats on the road, it seems they have brought them along in place of the batting practice caps.

  • Natron | May 25, 2007 at 8:45 am |

    Some disheartening news from the alma-matter:

    “Look for the Gophers football team, under new coach Tim Brewster, to switch from gold to maroon pants for road games this year, and to wear gold pants with gold jerseys for the Ohio State game Sept. 29 at the Metrodome. Minnesota plans to wear maroon pants and maroon jerseys for the Wisconsin game Nov. 17 at the Dome.

    The Gophers are switching from black shoes to white shoes next season.”

    The switch to white shoes I believe was reported here weeks ago, was it not? The gold-on-gold and maroon-on-maroon hurts bad though. Link here (toward the bottom of the article).

  • Natron | May 25, 2007 at 8:51 am |

    Some disheartening news from the alma-matter:

    “Look for the Gophers football team, under new coach Tim Brewster, to switch from gold to maroon pants for road games this year, and to wear gold pants with gold jerseys for the Ohio State game Sept. 29 at the Metrodome. Minnesota plans to wear maroon pants and maroon jerseys for the Wisconsin game Nov. 17 at the Dome.

    The Gophers are switching from black shoes to white shoes next season.”

    I believe the switch to white shoes was reported here weeks ago, was it not? The gold-on-gold and maroon-on-maroon hurts bad though.

    Link here (toward the bottom of the article).

  • Rob | May 25, 2007 at 8:51 am |

    Umm… Those hockey pictures are of Farjestads BK not of Vastra Frolunda HC. Also, the golden helmets are a sign of honor in european hockey. In most leagues a teams top scorer has to wear a golden helmet to signify that he is the best.

  • Joe Drennan | May 25, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    Holy crap

    At least the Ducks have found a way to make looking at their football uniforms enjoyable.

  • Kek | May 25, 2007 at 8:54 am |

    [quote comment=”91959″]Umm… Those hockey pictures are of Farjestads BK not of Vastra Frolunda HC. Also, the golden helmets are a sign of honor in european hockey. In most leagues a teams top scorer has to wear a golden helmet to signify that he is the best.[/quote]

    Yeah, but they’re ALL wearing the gold helmets in the photo.

  • Pittsburgh Gunny | May 25, 2007 at 9:01 am |

    “Sons of Ben” that was tremendous, thanks for that!

  • Billy D | May 25, 2007 at 9:08 am |

    Not quite cross sport, but Dominic Hasek wears a smaller cage as a goalie mask, looking like this instead of normal masks that cover the throat like this

  • MH | May 25, 2007 at 9:12 am |

    Umm… Those hockey pictures are of Farjestads BK not of Vastra Frolunda HC. Also, the golden helmets are a sign of honor in european hockey. In most leagues a teams top scorer has to wear a golden helmet to signify that he is the best.

    Yeah, but they’re ALL wearing the gold helmets in the photo.

    Also, what kind of honor flows from looking like a total idiot. I seriously doubt crap like this would fly in the NHL. Respect the game, folks.

  • James P. | May 25, 2007 at 9:13 am |

    Howard probably traded jerseys with Berkman or he not so secretly wants to be an Astro…I wonder if he can play somewhere other than 1st…

  • Elena E | May 25, 2007 at 9:15 am |

    Well,geez, I knew those were guardian angel pins. I thought the mystery was WHY they wore them, not what they were. I have the one with the angel holding a bat (Manny’s style?). I dont’ wear it because the bat makes it top-heavy and it always falls over. You can get them with different sports equipment, along with plain angels, your birthstone, etc. I also have a weight loss one, standing on a little scale.

  • Kim | May 25, 2007 at 9:17 am |

    Cross-sport equipment? How about the many soccer shin guards (at least that what they started as) that baseball players wear when batting?

  • Joe Drennan | May 25, 2007 at 9:19 am |

    Hasek wears a helmet made by Gary Warick. The mask is a newer verson of an old Cooper helmet like the one Mark Messier wore, but Hasek wore a simple players cage on it that you’ll find on many youth players.

    I myself wore the same kind of helmet for a year in college until my parents, coaches and doctor made me go back to the “traditional” mask after a concussion.

    Hockey goalies do however tend to wear golf or batting gloves on their glove hand. It’s supposed to minimize the sting of catching a puck. I’ve tried it, but I don’t think it works. You can see a good example here on Belfour’s left hand.

  • SRD | May 25, 2007 at 9:21 am |

    Some more sports cross-pollenation…

    When I played rugby, I wore soccer shinguards and wide receiver gloves with the fingers cut off (you couldn’t wear full-fingered gloves)

  • Amy | May 25, 2007 at 9:24 am |

    Re: equipment cross-sporting

    Once of my roommates in college was on the downhill ski team and apparently they would wear soccer shin guards on their forearms for protection when hitting the poles or gates or whatever they are called.

  • cathy | May 25, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    Brady Anderson of the Orioles famously wore a Roller Blade elbow pad at bat. He used to blade to Camden Yards from his home. You can see pics here and here. I couldn’t find one with “roller blade” visible.

  • Jason | May 25, 2007 at 9:30 am |

    I would imagine wearing a goalie mask while at bat (a la Dave Parker) would greatly reduce your visibility and make it very difficult to hit the ball. Too bad he didn’t get a hit, that would have been highly impresive.

  • Mark in Shiga | May 25, 2007 at 9:31 am |

    That’s an amazing collection of Japanese amateur jerseys up there. How did Minnesota get so many of them? It’s not like Japanese people flock there on vacation, right?

    And Minna, there’s a vertically-lettered North Akashi HS jersey for what looks like $15.99; right in the neighborhood, isn’t it?

  • TBDRO | May 25, 2007 at 9:33 am |

    A Uni Watch membership program? Wow. I love the columns, I love the blog, heck, I’ve been meaning to pick up some Uni Watch merchandise.

    But, a Uni Watch membership program? Really?

  • Carl | May 25, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    Thank goodness the Marlins may change to the Miami Marlins.

    Now if we can just get the stupid Rockies to become the Denver Rockies the National League can once again be a city league like it should be…

  • Johnny O | May 25, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    I just read on the Milwaukee Brewers web site that they are going to be hosting a bowling tournament there Oct. 28th. I have two things to say about this:

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?

    2) I know I am counting my chickens before they hatch.. but what if the Crew make a run in the playoffs and make it to the World Series? I don’t how the scheduling would work… but what if the Brewers have a home game that night? It says that they venue would be moved to another local bowling alley, but that wouldn’t be nearly as fun a Miller Park.

  • Dave | May 25, 2007 at 9:40 am |

    Looks like the shoulders on those Oregon jerseys look different than the diamond cutters of last year, looks more like a checkeboard

    thoughts?

  • Jason | May 25, 2007 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=”91990″]

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?[/quote]

    I know the University of Kentucky and Michigan State played a basketball game at Ford Field a few years ago. They did it strictly to break the record for attendance to a college basketball game, which they did.

    I’m pretty sure two NHL teams played an outdoor game a few years ago too. The details escape me though. I’m sure someone on here would know more about it.

  • Joe Drennan | May 25, 2007 at 9:41 am |

    [quote comment=”91990″]I just read on the Milwaukee Brewers web site that they are going to be hosting a bowling tournament there Oct. 28th. I have two things to say about this:

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?
    [/quote]
    Happens all the time. Wrigley Field was the long time home of the Bears. Infact. Wrigley Field has hosted more NFL games than any other venue. Hockey arenas are routinley used for basketball as well. Football stadiums are used for soccer.

    Basketball courts are used for volleyball. The list is endless.

    The small arena I coach at held the US Horse Shoe National Championships. That just shows it doesn’t have to be a major arena to host a cross over.

  • Stuby | May 25, 2007 at 9:41 am |

    I think its been mentioned here before, but doesn’t Justin Morneau wear an NHL T-shirt under his Twins jersey?

  • Joe Drennan | May 25, 2007 at 9:42 am |

    [quote comment=”91995″]I think its been mentioned here before, but doesn’t Justin Morneau wear an NHL T-shirt under his Twins jersey?[/quote]

    Canucks T-shirt to be exact.

  • Natron | May 25, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    [quote comment=”91997″][quote comment=”91995″]I think its been mentioned here before, but doesn’t Justin Morneau wear an NHL T-shirt under his Twins jersey?[/quote]

    Canucks T-shirt to be exact.[/quote]

    Todd Bertuzzi Canucks shirt to be even more exact.

  • Natron | May 25, 2007 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”91994″][quote comment=”91990″]I just read on the Milwaukee Brewers web site that they are going to be hosting a bowling tournament there Oct. 28th. I have two things to say about this:

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?
    [/quote]
    Happens all the time. Wrigley Field was the long time home of the Bears. Infact. Wrigley Field has hosted more NFL games than any other venue. Hockey arenas are routinley used for basketball as well. Football stadiums are used for soccer.

    Basketball courts are used for volleyball. The list is endless.

    The small arena I coach at held the US Horse Shoe National Championships. That just shows it doesn’t have to be a major arena to host a cross over.[/quote]

    Bowling to me is interesting… It looked really strange when they did it at Miller Park. I think they just threw a couple of lanes on the 1st base line. I believe the Racing Sausages also made an appearance if I’m not mistaken.

    Also remember that the University of Wisconsin played Ohio State in hockey at Lambeau 2 years ago, and the 2010 NCAA Frozen Four will be at Ford Field in Detroit as well.

  • Stuby | May 25, 2007 at 9:54 am |

    Lets not forget these gloves.

  • Boston Nick | May 25, 2007 at 9:55 am |

    Manny Ramirez has been alternating between a couple of (one black and one gray and blue) versions of the Air Huarache 2005 spikes, which are basketball inspired, and a pair of Nike Vapor Jet football cleats.

    In addition, Ken Harrelson started all the batting glove stuff by wearing a golf glove when he came to bat one day because he had a blister on his hand, which I’m sure most (if not all) of you guys know.

  • Shaftman | May 25, 2007 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”91988″]A Uni Watch membership program? Wow. I love the columns, I love the blog, heck, I’ve been meaning to pick up some Uni Watch merchandise.

    But, a Uni Watch membership program? Really?[/quote]

    This was covered in the birthday column last week.

  • Mike from Queens | May 25, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment=”91989″]Thank goodness the Marlins may change to the Miami Marlins.

    Now if we can just get the stupid Rockies to become the Denver Rockies the National League can once again be a city league like it should be…[/quote]

    How about the Rockies move out of Colorado entirely. That mile high stadium shit is really old, and in the words of the immortal Bob Murphy after his first game there, “That’s not baseball.”

  • Stuby | May 25, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”92000″][quote comment=”91994″][quote comment=”91990″]I just read on the Milwaukee Brewers web site that they are going to be hosting a bowling tournament there Oct. 28th. I have two things to say about this:

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?
    [/quote]
    Happens all the time. Wrigley Field was the long time home of the Bears. Infact. Wrigley Field has hosted more NFL games than any other venue. Hockey arenas are routinley used for basketball as well. Football stadiums are used for soccer.

    Basketball courts are used for volleyball. The list is endless.

    The small arena I coach at held the US Horse Shoe National Championships. That just shows it doesn’t have to be a major arena to host a cross over.[/quote]

    Bowling to me is interesting… It looked really strange when they did it at Miller Park. I think they just threw a couple of lanes on the 1st base line. I believe the Racing Sausages also made an appearance if I’m not mistaken.

    Also remember that the University of Wisconsin played Ohio State in hockey at Lambeau 2 years ago, and the 2010 NCAA Frozen Four will be at Ford Field in Detroit as well.[/quote]
    It cracks me up that the SF Giants tried for years to get a baseball-only facility and within a few years, they were already having college bowl games there, not to mention the XFL. Not exactly the best venue for football.

  • JohnBoy | May 25, 2007 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”91989″]Thank goodness the Marlins may change to the Miami Marlins.

    Now if we can just get the stupid Rockies to become the Denver Rockies the National League can once again be a city league like it should be…[/quote]

    You’ll still have the Arizona Diamondbacks…

  • Teebz | May 25, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”91993″]
    I’m pretty sure two NHL teams played an outdoor game a few years ago too. The details escape me though. I’m sure someone on here would know more about it.[/quote]

    Edmonton and Montreal played in the cold Edmonton winter at Commonwealth Stadium. I have the CBC-produced DVD that contains both the Heritage game and the actual NHL game. If anyone wants a copy, I’ll gladly set you up.

    Ben Wood, you have got to contact me. I want a couple of those jerseys.

  • James P. | May 25, 2007 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”92010″][quote comment=”91989″]Thank goodness the Marlins may change to the Miami Marlins.

    Now if we can just get the stupid Rockies to become the Denver Rockies the National League can once again be a city league like it should be…[/quote]

    You’ll still have the Arizona Diamondbacks…[/quote]

    and Texas Rangers…

  • Teebz | May 25, 2007 at 10:09 am |

    [quote comment=”91971″]

    Umm… Those hockey pictures are of Farjestads BK not of Vastra Frolunda HC. Also, the golden helmets are a sign of honor in european hockey. In most leagues a teams top scorer has to wear a golden helmet to signify that he is the best.

    Yeah, but they’re ALL wearing the gold helmets in the photo.

    Also, what kind of honor flows from looking like a total idiot. I seriously doubt crap like this would fly in the NHL. Respect the game, folks.[/quote]

    Why are you comparing a European tradition to that which occurs in the NHL? The leading scorer in all Euro leagues wear a different helmet, and some even wear a different jersey, much like the Tour de France.

    I doubt very much that they are not respecting the game. If anything, they are celebrating the achievement of a player, not unlike the Art Ross Trophy or “Rocket” Richard Trophy.

  • R. J. Pratt | May 25, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    The Frolunda HC/Farjestads BK mixup is unforgivable on my part. I looked at the post this morning and saw the FBK logo and thought – uh-oh, you really screwed up here. My only defense was checking out past seasons to see what Prestberg wore for a number and he had played for Frolunda earlier.

    As for the helmets, I knew about the scoring thing (I remember a picture of Rick Nash sporting a snazzy gold helmet in the Swiss league during the lockout) but I was curious as to the reason that they’re all wearing the helmets. I’m guessing the picture is from when Farjestads won the Elitserien playoffs in 2006 – maybe if you win, the league gives everyone gold helmets. Farjestads usually wears purple.

  • Johnny O | May 25, 2007 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”92009″][quote comment=”92000″][quote comment=”91994″][quote comment=”91990″]I just read on the Milwaukee Brewers web site that they are going to be hosting a bowling tournament there Oct. 28th. I have two things to say about this:

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?
    [/quote]
    Happens all the time. Wrigley Field was the long time home of the Bears. Infact. Wrigley Field has hosted more NFL games than any other venue. Hockey arenas are routinley used for basketball as well. Football stadiums are used for soccer.

    Basketball courts are used for volleyball. The list is endless.

    The small arena I coach at held the US Horse Shoe National Championships. That just shows it doesn’t have to be a major arena to host a cross over.[/quote]

    Bowling to me is interesting… It looked really strange when they did it at Miller Park. I think they just threw a couple of lanes on the 1st base line. I believe the Racing Sausages also made an appearance if I’m not mistaken.

    Also remember that the University of Wisconsin played Ohio State in hockey at Lambeau 2 years ago, and the 2010 NCAA Frozen Four will be at Ford Field in Detroit as well.[/quote]
    It cracks me up that the SF Giants tried for years to get a baseball-only facility and within a few years, they were already having college bowl games there, not to mention the XFL. Not exactly the best venue for football.[/quote]
    I obviously knew about the many venues that host basketball/ hockey and also baseball/football. How could I be dumb enough to forget about Bucky and the Buckeyes at Lambeau Field (I was at the damn game)

    I guess what I am looking for is more examples of non main stream sports… like bowling in a baseball stadium or volleyball on a football field.. something weird like that. But I do appreciate the comments so far.

  • Sage Confuicus | May 25, 2007 at 10:14 am |

    [quote comment=”91971″]

    Umm… Those hockey pictures are of Farjestads BK not of Vastra Frolunda HC. Also, the golden helmets are a sign of honor in european hockey. In most leagues a teams top scorer has to wear a golden helmet to signify that he is the best.

    Yeah, but they’re ALL wearing the gold helmets in the photo.

    Also, what kind of honor flows from looking like a total idiot. I seriously doubt crap like this would fly in the NHL. Respect the game, folks.[/quote]

    Yeah. They kind of look like cylons.

  • todd krevanchi | May 25, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    from yesterday…

    [quote comment=”91945″][quote comment=”91804″][quote comment=”91790″][quote comment=”91789″][quote comment=”91788″][quote comment=”91778″][quote comment=”91777″][quote comment=”91776″][quote comment=”91775″][quote comment=”91774″][quote comment=”91771″]Read the headline of the article..Jeter’s got it..and gets it.[/quote]

    Give it up, dude. He doesn’t GET IT TM[/quote]
    This guy has does nothing but good to Major League Baseball, what’s there to give up…dude[/quote]

    Last time I checked, this was UNIWatch and everyone’s reference to him not “getting it” is in regard to his uniform. Calm down and stop taking it so personally.[/quote]

    got it

    ;-)[/quote]
    ..but there’s gotta be a pic with him showing some sock,[/quote]
    Exhibit A: #18-Good socks; #2-no socks.[/quote]
    that’s been established already..[/quote]
    Yeah, I know. Its still fun.[/quote]

    im a fan of the longer pant look. and i think jeter looks like a player in his uni. so i say he “gets it”.

    by the way, since when did “get it” refer to wearing stirrup hose anyway? i was under the impression that the term “get it” simply meant that people were aware of this type of minutae.[/quote]

    Todd, longer pants? I’ve seen your name around here often enough to think that you should know better…

    The long pants look is just that… a look. It’s like a fireman deciding to wear his helmet backwards. He might think it looks cool, he might even be right, but it’s not how you’re supposed to wear the uniform. I think that showing the uniform respect by wearing it properly comes before looking cool.[/quote]

    what?
    i should KNOW better?
    what is that?

    i KNOW that i like the way longer pants look.
    on jeter, on wright on other mlb’ers.

    i KNOW that i dont like the way pants look when they are tight and just below the knee. on any player, stirrups (cruz jr) or plain socks (soriano)

    i KNOW that i dont mind the way juan pierre looks cuz his pants are tailored to be baggy, to mimic the look of jackie and gehrig, et al.

    i KNOW that i like when some teams wear same color pants and shirts in football, alternate solid color baseball jerseys, the previously stated “pajama pant”, and that i dont mind the color purple.

    i KNOW that i “GET IT” because i pay attention to this kind of stuff in all sports, and not because of i am forced to follow some popular opinions here.

    i KNOW that you meant no disrespect and were just making friendly and joking conversation, but i dont like it when people make general statements that everyone subscribes to the same opinions here.

    i have an opinion here just like everyone does on what i like and dislike. you dont have to agree with it, but please respect that i have an opinion and that its my own.

  • Jonathon | May 25, 2007 at 10:20 am |

    Can anyone explain why Juan Pierre’s player photo has him wearing a Dodgers cap with a green underbill? They haven’t worn caps with green underbills in a LONG LONG time.

    http://sports.espn.g...

  • Robert | May 25, 2007 at 10:20 am |

    [quote comment=”92012″][quote comment=”92010″][quote comment=”91989″]Thank goodness the Marlins may change to the Miami Marlins.

    Now if we can just get the stupid Rockies to become the Denver Rockies the National League can once again be a city league like it should be…[/quote]

    You’ll still have the Arizona Diamondbacks…[/quote]

    and Texas Rangers…[/quote]

    The Rangers are in the American League, and the original post was referring only to the Senior Circuit.

  • SRD | May 25, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    Back in ’04, the AMNRL was trying to get a rugby match going between the USA Tomahawks and Australian Kangaroos at Yankee Stadium. Not sure if it ever went down…

  • Joey Guns | May 25, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    Anyone notice the Mets jersey hanging in the locker next to Chase Utley’s locker?

    http://bugsandcranks...

    It has a “4” on it, so I’m guessing it’s probably “47”, for Glavine.

    Any thoughts?

  • Kerry | May 25, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    I’m surprised that no one has hit on this yet: If the Marlins do change from “Florida” to “Miami” there will undoubtedly be a new HAT LOGO.

  • David Potter | May 25, 2007 at 10:22 am |

    Finally a way to make the Oregon unis look nice

  • Kerry | May 25, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”92027″]Finally a way to make the Oregon unis look nice[/quote]
    No. NOT nice…just more tolerable.

  • hott rodd | May 25, 2007 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”91994″][quote comment=”91990″]I just read on the Milwaukee Brewers web site that they are going to be hosting a bowling tournament there Oct. 28th. I have two things to say about this:

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?
    [/quote]
    Happens all the time. Wrigley Field was the long time home of the Bears. Infact. Wrigley Field has hosted more NFL games than any other venue. Hockey arenas are routinley used for basketball as well. Football stadiums are used for soccer.

    Basketball courts are used for volleyball. The list is endless.

    The small arena I coach at held the US Horse Shoe National Championships. That just shows it doesn’t have to be a major arena to host a cross over.[/quote]

    Here in Phoenix the Lady Sun Devils have played several Basketball games at Bank One Ballpark, most notably the one this past winter that was RAINED OUT

  • Joey Guns | May 25, 2007 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”92022″]Can anyone explain why Juan Pierre’s player photo has him wearing a Dodgers cap with a green underbill? They haven’t worn caps with green underbills in a LONG LONG time.

    http://sports.espn.g...

    He might’ve chosen to wear the had for the photo op, for some strange reason. Yeah, green underbill is old school. Paul could probably chime in with more info….

  • B93 | May 25, 2007 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”91959″]Umm… Those hockey pictures are of Farjestads BK not of Vastra Frolunda HC. Also, the golden helmets are a sign of honor in european hockey. In most leagues a teams top scorer has to wear a golden helmet to signify that he is the best.[/quote]

    I’m quite certain the golden hats in Swedish hockey are only used to celebrate a championship and only worn after the final game and never during games. Its similar to the tradition of US teams donning celebratory T-shirts and caps after winning the World Series, Super Bowl etc. The golden hats are ugly none the less.

  • The Ol Goaler | May 25, 2007 at 10:28 am |

    Viewing the names and numbers of the Pro Football Hall of Fame makes me really wish the “No Fun League” would quit the practice of assigning numbers to positions.

    Now, I’m not suggesting a complete overhaul… Otto Graham changed from #60 to #14 when the Browns left the All-America Football Conference for the NFL… and tackle “Bruiser” Kinard would obviously need to wear a number other than his #25; but would it really hurt anything for Reggie Bush to wear #5 as a running back? Y’know, like Paul Hornung? (Sigh…)

  • Matt D. | May 25, 2007 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”91990″]I just read on the Milwaukee Brewers web site that they are going to be hosting a bowling tournament there Oct. 28th. I have two things to say about this:

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? [/quote]

    I’ll try to find the pic again, but I saw, on a baseball stadium forum, a picture of Gil Hodges and Yogi Berra bowling at RFK Stadium in 1964.

  • Kim | May 25, 2007 at 10:32 am |

    They’ve played ice hockey and football in Atlantic City’s Boardwalk Hall…..yes, the former home of the Miss America Pagent.

    http://en.wikipedia....

  • Jonathon | May 25, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Pretty cool pic of the A’s 1968 unis, there first year in Oakland. Catfish Hunter’s stirrups are bitchin’. But it sure looks like his sanitaries are white, not yellow. Difficult to tell, b/c of the black/white photo, but the sanitary looks the same color as the white spikes.

    http://www.baseballh...

  • ScottyJ in WV | May 25, 2007 at 10:41 am |

    Re: equipment cross-sporting

    For quite a few years, some bowlers will wear either a baseball batting glove or golf glove, most noteably Pete Weber. Tried it myself a few years back but personally I didn’t like the feel.

  • Kek | May 25, 2007 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”92032″]Viewing the names and numbers of the Pro Football Hall of Fame makes me really wish the “No Fun League” would quit the practice of assigning numbers to positions.

    Now, I’m not suggesting a complete overhaul… Otto Graham changed from #60 to #14 when the Browns left the All-America Football Conference for the NFL… and tackle “Bruiser” Kinard would obviously need to wear a number other than his #25; but would it really hurt anything for Reggie Bush to wear #5 as a running back? Y’know, like Paul Hornung? (Sigh…)[/quote]

    The thing about Graham that always found intriguing, was that in the old days jerseys were recycled and in the seasons directly following his change from #60 to #14 you can clearly see the outline of the old number on the jersey. In fact, I think the HOF has such a jersey on display.

    This day and age, an NFL player probably uses several jerseys a year.

  • Matt D. | May 25, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    I’ll try to find the pic again, but I saw, on a baseball stadium forum, a picture of Gil Hodges and Yogi Berra bowling at RFK Stadium in 1964.

    Here it is. (2nd post down)
    The peson who posted thought it might be the Polo Grounds, but it’s clearly not.

  • Ferdinand Cesarano | May 25, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    There was some talk last year about a Ranger-Islander game at Yankee Stadium, but I haven’t heard anything about it since those initial reports.

  • Frank Mercogliano | May 25, 2007 at 10:46 am |

    If the Marlins become the Miami Marlins (that would be tough to get used to saying being I’m the only Marlins fan in Idaho), they would go to this on their caps, which is what is basically on their batting practice caps right now. Of course, the M would be black as they’s seriously gone away from the teal.

    Frank

  • Cork | May 25, 2007 at 10:46 am |

    I’m just guessing here, but i dont think those Japanese jerseys are real teams. I have been in two different second-hand shops in two different states that had a rack that looked exactly the same, with about 50 Japanese baseball jerseys. I even owned a couple of the Jerseys at one point. They were definitely replicas at best.

    I remember trying to find information about the “teams” whose jerseys i had and never came up with anything. I suppose they could be high school replicas or what we would call semi-pro or even amateur.

  • Shaftman | May 25, 2007 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”92046″]I’ll try to find the pic again, but I saw, on a baseball stadium forum, a picture of Gil Hodges and Yogi Berra bowling at RFK Stadium in 1964.

    Here it is. (2nd post down)
    The peson who posted thought it might be the Polo Grounds, but it’s clearly not.[/quote]

    According to that thread the stadium was RFK in DC.

  • My name is not Earl | May 25, 2007 at 10:48 am |

    Yesterday at the Tennessee state high school track meet, an athlete from West High School in Knoxville was wearing some serious Spider-Man-inspired socks:

    http://mas.scripps.c...

  • Kek | May 25, 2007 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”92035″]They’ve played ice hockey and football in Atlantic City’s Boardwalk Hall…..yes, the former home of the Miss America Pagent.

    http://en.wikipedia....
    I think this would be in a slightly different category though because Boardwalk Hall was their only venue. It wasn’t as if they played their once just as a promotional thing.

    As an ECHL fan, I thought AC would have been a great market for the ECHL. You could have the fans from teams like Johnstown, Wheeling, Toledo, Dayton, etc plan road trips and hit the casinos while they are there. That just wasn’t enough from an attendance standpoint though. Even in the year they won the title it just wasn’t enough. I guess it would be hard to keep a sports franchise afloat based solely on tourism and not a home market.

  • Nolan | May 25, 2007 at 10:51 am |

    Another hockey/football facemask convergence was Blake Sloan of the Dallas Stars who wore a bauer helmet with a kra lite facemask for a few games.

    I have tried off and on for a few months to find a picture of him in it but no dice.

  • Tuffy | May 25, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    This might’ve been mentioned already, but at least one NBA player was wearing a football girdle, complete with thigh pads, last year. You reported on it at that time, Paul.

  • Mark Mayall | May 25, 2007 at 10:54 am |

    Arm-warmers are also becoming popular among elite runners on cold days to augment what are very skimpy outfits. A way to keep warm while not wearing a long-sleeved shirt. From this year’s Boston marathon, where miserable conditions warranted the extra coverage:

    #2, front and center

    #37 on the right

  • Ferdinand Cesarano | May 25, 2007 at 10:55 am |

    There was talk last year about possibly holding a Ranger-Islander game at Yankee Stadium. But, I haven’t heard anything since those initial reports.

  • Aaron | May 25, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    I don’t know if I want to admit that I know this, but the New York Liberty (WNBA) played a few games at Radio City Music Hall. There was a sweet picture in Sports Illustrated that showed the setup.

  • Kim | May 25, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”92052″][quote comment=”92035″]They’ve played ice hockey and football in Atlantic City’s Boardwalk Hall…..yes, the former home of the Miss America Pagent.

    http://en.wikipedia....
    I think this would be in a slightly different category though because Boardwalk Hall was their only venue. It wasn’t as if they played their once just as a promotional thing.
    [/quote]

    But the discussion rolled out of this from Post 20:
    For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?

    I think hockey, basketball, and college football being played in an auditorium ought to qualify, or at least be a footnote to the discussion.

    They also played the football on natural grass there.

  • Mike Engle | May 25, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    Re: sports cross pollination
    There’s a golfer who is/was on the PGA Tour who had a Reebok contract, and would routinely wear Reebok PlayDry clothing that any of the NFL coaches would wear. I remember seeing him wearing Jets and Browns shirts, but since I do not remember his name, searching for pictures would be futile.

  • Anthony Verna | May 25, 2007 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”92016″][quote comment=”91971″]

    Umm… Those hockey pictures are of Farjestads BK not of Vastra Frolunda HC. Also, the golden helmets are a sign of honor in european hockey. In most leagues a teams top scorer has to wear a golden helmet to signify that he is the best.

    Yeah, but they’re ALL wearing the gold helmets in the photo.

    Also, what kind of honor flows from looking like a total idiot. I seriously doubt crap like this would fly in the NHL. Respect the game, folks.[/quote]

    Yeah. They kind of look like cylons.[/quote]

    Couldn’t you have linked to this Cylon instead?

  • Johnny Bacardi | May 25, 2007 at 11:02 am |

    I always thought they should have been called the Miami Marlins anyway. Maybe it’s the old crank in me, but I dislike regional names (“New England”, “Golden State”, “Colorado”).

  • Ron | May 25, 2007 at 11:02 am |

    I would buy a Sons of Ben jersey, but only if they keep that awesome Franklin Skull logo. Soccer or not, that is wicked cool.

  • Kek | May 25, 2007 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”92061″][quote comment=”92052″][quote comment=”92035″]They’ve played ice hockey and football in Atlantic City’s Boardwalk Hall…..yes, the former home of the Miss America Pagent.

    http://en.wikipedia....
    I think this would be in a slightly different category though because Boardwalk Hall was their only venue. It wasn’t as if they played their once just as a promotional thing.
    [/quote]

    But the discussion rolled out of this from Post 20:
    For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?

    I think hockey, basketball, and college football being played in an auditorium ought to qualify, or at least be a footnote to the discussion.

    They also played the football on natural grass there.[/quote]
    I gotcha. I was only addressing the hockey aspect of the post. I read on though and saw where the convention hall also hosted the Boardwalk Bowl and Liberty Bowl which would definitely fit in the discussion.

    I can remember going to the PA Farm Show when I was a little one and remember seeing a figure skater on a temporary ice surface. I wonder if anyone knows if they ever did an exhibition hockey game there.

  • Kim | May 25, 2007 at 11:10 am |

    Arizona State has played some women’s basketball games at BankOne Ballpark/Chase Field.

  • Perry | May 25, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”92008″][quote comment=”91989″]Thank goodness the Marlins may change to the Miami Marlins.

    Now if we can just get the stupid Rockies to become the Denver Rockies the National League can once again be a city league like it should be…[/quote]

    How about the Rockies move out of Colorado entirely. That mile high stadium shit is really old, and in the words of the immortal Bob Murphy after his first game there, “That’s not baseball.”[/quote]

    How about you go %*^& yourself? You want to tell a city/region that supports baseball like Colorado has (4.5 million fans the first year, over 3 million in each of the first 9, despite consistently lousy teams) that they shouldn’t have a team? I’m sorry, we don’t WANT to drive 600 miles to Kansas City or 900 miles to Phoenix to see a game. Look, I don’t like a steady diet of 12-9 games any more than you do, but the humidor has really helped. Park effects used to regularly top 120 and even 130 here, but since 2003 they’ve been 112, 120, 113, 107, and 107. That’s right, since the beginning of last season only 7% more scoring than a neutral park!

  • Shaftman | May 25, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”92064″]I always thought they should have been called the Miami Marlins anyway. Maybe it’s the old crank in me, but I dislike regional names (“New England”, “Golden State”, “Colorado”).[/quote]

    I’m a little bit different. I prefer the city names, but I would still choose a regional name over a state name. I really dislike it when they take the name of a city that they are either no longer in or were never in. (i.e. LA Angels of Anaheim, NY Jets/Giants, Dallas Cowboys, the list goes on…). Honor where you are…not where you have been or wish you were.

  • Shaftman | May 25, 2007 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”92075″][quote comment=”92008″][quote comment=”91989″]Thank goodness the Marlins may change to the Miami Marlins.

    Now if we can just get the stupid Rockies to become the Denver Rockies the National League can once again be a city league like it should be…[/quote]

    How about the Rockies move out of Colorado entirely. That mile high stadium shit is really old, and in the words of the immortal Bob Murphy after his first game there, “That’s not baseball.”[/quote]

    How about you go %*^& yourself? You want to tell a city/region that supports baseball like Colorado has (4.5 million fans the first year, over 3 million in each of the first 9, despite consistently lousy teams) that they shouldn’t have a team? I’m sorry, we don’t WANT to drive 600 miles to Kansas City or 900 miles to Phoenix to see a game. Look, I don’t like a steady diet of 12-9 games any more than you do, but the humidor has really helped. Park effects used to regularly top 120 and even 130 here, but since 2003 they’ve been 112, 120, 113, 107, and 107. That’s right, since the beginning of last season only 7% more scoring than a neutral park![/quote]

    The Rockies play “real baseball” but are aided by something that can not be controlled. Maybe they should have made the fence further back. But it’s no worse than the Phillies at Citizens Bank Park? Routine fly balls are going into the stands. That park is ridiculous.

  • Anthony Verna | May 25, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”92076″][quote comment=”92064″]I always thought they should have been called the Miami Marlins anyway. Maybe it’s the old crank in me, but I dislike regional names (“New England”, “Golden State”, “Colorado”).[/quote]

    I’m a little bit different. I prefer the city names, but I would still choose a regional name over a state name. I really dislike it when they take the name of a city that they are either no longer in or were never in. (i.e. LA Angels of Anaheim, NY Jets/Giants, Dallas Cowboys, the list goes on…). Honor where you are…not where you have been or wish you were.[/quote]

    Here’s where I disagree. I know they’re in NJ, but it’s practically NYC and both football teams are born of NYC. Also, the Cowboys are JUST outside Dallas. Not exactly far away. (Anaheim’s a different story since it’s over 20 miles from LA and a population base that is its own area now.)

  • WVU Tom | May 25, 2007 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”92076″][quote comment=”92064″]I always thought they should have been called the Miami Marlins anyway. Maybe it’s the old crank in me, but I dislike regional names (“New England”, “Golden State”, “Colorado”).[/quote]

    I’m a little bit different. I prefer the city names, but I would still choose a regional name over a state name. I really dislike it when they take the name of a city that they are either no longer in or were never in. (i.e. LA Angels of Anaheim, NY Jets/Giants, Dallas Cowboys, the list goes on…). Honor where you are…not where you have been or wish you were.[/quote]

    Well the LA Angels of Anaheim is a class by itself–it’s no wonder they just wear “Angels” on their road uniforms. As far as NY Jets/Giants and some of the others, I don’t have to big a problem with it because even though the venues may be outside city limits, they are still within the sphere of influence of the namesake city.

    How funny would it be though to watch the New Jersey Giants play the Maryland Redskins…or the East Rutherford Jets play the Irving Cowboys!

  • Mark | May 25, 2007 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”92015″][quote comment=”92009″][quote comment=”92000″][quote comment=”91994″][quote comment=”91990″]I just read on the Milwaukee Brewers web site that they are going to be hosting a bowling tournament there Oct. 28th. I have two things to say about this:

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?
    [/quote]
    Happens all the time. Wrigley Field was the long time home of the Bears. Infact. Wrigley Field has hosted more NFL games than any other venue. Hockey arenas are routinley used for basketball as well. Football stadiums are used for soccer.

    Basketball courts are used for volleyball. The list is endless.

    The small arena I coach at held the US Horse Shoe National Championships. That just shows it doesn’t have to be a major arena to host a cross over.[/quote]

    Bowling to me is interesting… It looked really strange when they did it at Miller Park. I think they just threw a couple of lanes on the 1st base line. I believe the Racing Sausages also made an appearance if I’m not mistaken.

    Also remember that the University of Wisconsin played Ohio State in hockey at Lambeau 2 years ago, and the 2010 NCAA Frozen Four will be at Ford Field in Detroit as well.[/quote]
    It cracks me up that the SF Giants tried for years to get a baseball-only facility and within a few years, they were already having college bowl games there, not to mention the XFL. Not exactly the best venue for football.[/quote]
    I obviously knew about the many venues that host basketball/ hockey and also baseball/football. How could I be dumb enough to forget about Bucky and the Buckeyes at Lambeau Field (I was at the damn game)

    I guess what I am looking for is more examples of non main stream sports… like bowling in a baseball stadium or volleyball on a football field.. something weird like that. But I do appreciate the comments so far.[/quote]

    If you are looking for non main stream sports, the S.F. Giants hosted a ski jumping exhibition at AT&T park either this last winter or the winter before. I don’t have any pictures of it, but I do know I saw a few somewhere online at one point. Maybe someone else has some photos.

  • Janke | May 25, 2007 at 11:35 am |

    The golfer that wears NFL Equipment polos is Ben Curtis. He usually wears the polo shirt of the team from whatever state the tournament is in. I know I’ve seen him in Browns, Redskins, Steelers, and Vikings gear.

  • Amy | May 25, 2007 at 11:36 am |

    Being from W. MA, I appreciate the Patriot’s using New England rather than a more specific name. People who do not live in MA tend to think the entire state consists only of Boston and that general area… So for example even though there are Red Sox fans throughout New England (although CT likes to pretend its an extension of NYC sometimes), all Red Sox fans are characterized as being typical obnoxious R-droppping Bostonians, which doesn’t even come close to covering the entire fan base. Of course I am in NO WAY suggesting that the Red Sox change their name, that would be blasphemy. Just trying to explain how a regional name can make more sense.

  • Justin | May 25, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”91980″]Brady Anderson of the Orioles famously wore a Roller Blade elbow pad at bat. He used to blade to Camden Yards from his home. You can see pics here and here. I couldn’t find one with “roller blade” visible.[/quote]

    Many of the Early 90’s Blue Jays used to wear the Rollerblade wrist guards to protect their wrists when sliding head first. Roberto Alomar in particular.

  • Matt D. | May 25, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    I can remember going to the PA Farm Show when I was a little one and remember seeing a figure skater on a temporary ice surface. I wonder if anyone knows if they ever did an exhibition hockey game there.

    I doubt that it would happen, as you have a perfectly good arena just up the road in Hershey.
    I will admit, though, that there were ice shows at the Carrier Dome in the mid-to-late 90’s, even though there was a good arena in downtown Syracuse.

  • Shaftman | May 25, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”92085″][quote comment=”92076″][quote comment=”92064″]I always thought they should have been called the Miami Marlins anyway. Maybe it’s the old crank in me, but I dislike regional names (“New England”, “Golden State”, “Colorado”).[/quote]

    I’m a little bit different. I prefer the city names, but I would still choose a regional name over a state name. I really dislike it when they take the name of a city that they are either no longer in or were never in. (i.e. LA Angels of Anaheim, NY Jets/Giants, Dallas Cowboys, the list goes on…). Honor where you are…not where you have been or wish you were.[/quote]

    Here’s where I disagree. I know they’re in NJ, but it’s practically NYC and both football teams are born of NYC. Also, the Cowboys are JUST outside Dallas. Not exactly far away. (Anaheim’s a different story since it’s over 20 miles from LA and a population base that is its own area now.)[/quote]

    Don’t get me wrong I live on Long Island and I’m a die hard Jets fan, but they don’t reside in New York. They reside in New Jersey. Want to use a regional name, ok…they could call themselves the Metro Jets (ok, that’s horrible, but you get the idea.).

    Dallas could use a state name or call themselves the Arlington Cowboys when they move. What about the A’s when they move to Freemont? Do they keep the Oakland in their name?

    I know that it would get messy to change everyones names to a proper locale but it does bug me when I see a name that doesn’t fit. It also makes me appreciate the Patriots being “New England” instead of “Boston”.

    Just my $0.02

  • Randy Miller | May 25, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    And, of course, before Curtis, the late, great Payne Stewart had NFL-geared shirts and plus-fours.

  • Mark Max | May 25, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    The first publicized outdoor hockey that I remember that may have started the trend was “the cold war.”
    Michigan vs. Michigan State at Spartan Stadium, #1 vs. #4 in the country, great game and 78,000+ (I think) were there in attendance. Here’s a video recap!

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 25, 2007 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”91961″]Holy crap

    At least the Ducks have found a way to make looking at their football uniforms enjoyable.[/quote]

    What football uniforms?

  • Mark Max | May 25, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    I totally forgot that ryan Miller wore eye black in net for that game!

  • Stuby | May 25, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    ‘Golden State’ Warriors is just plain goofy, especially now that there are 4 teams in CA. They used to be the SF Warriors before moving over to Oakland around the same time the A’s moved from KC. I wouldn’t have minded the ‘Oakland’ Warriors, ‘San Francisco Bay’ Warriors, or even ‘Bay Area’ Warriors.
    NOT, however, the ‘San Francisco Warriors of Oakland formerly of Philadelphia’.

    I think its probably too late to change it.

  • patrick | May 25, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”91975″]Cross-sport equipment? How about the many soccer shin guards (at least that what they started as) that baseball players wear when batting?[/quote]
    those aren’t soccer shinguards. Soccer shinguards A) dont have straps B) arent that type of molded plastic and C) are wayyyy bigger than most shinguards worn by professionals. Shinguards tend to diminish in size at higher levels of soccer. Throughout HS i wore a pair designed for 5-9 years olds…

  • Andrew | May 25, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    Just a note on RAGSTOCK. They actually have stores all over the midwest, not just MPLS. Growing up in Madison, WI we used to shop there all the time. Every location I’ve been to has the Japanese jerseys as well as various other sports. Check out http://www.ragstock.... for locations.

  • WVU Tom | May 25, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”92095″][quote comment=”92085″][quote comment=”92076″][quote comment=”92064″]I always thought they should have been called the Miami Marlins anyway. Maybe it’s the old crank in me, but I dislike regional names (“New England”, “Golden State”, “Colorado”).[/quote]

    I’m a little bit different. I prefer the city names, but I would still choose a regional name over a state name. I really dislike it when they take the name of a city that they are either no longer in or were never in. (i.e. LA Angels of Anaheim, NY Jets/Giants, Dallas Cowboys, the list goes on…). Honor where you are…not where you have been or wish you were.[/quote]

    Here’s where I disagree. I know they’re in NJ, but it’s practically NYC and both football teams are born of NYC. Also, the Cowboys are JUST outside Dallas. Not exactly far away. (Anaheim’s a different story since it’s over 20 miles from LA and a population base that is its own area now.)[/quote]

    Don’t get me wrong I live on Long Island and I’m a die hard Jets fan, but they don’t reside in New York. They reside in New Jersey. Want to use a regional name, ok…they could call themselves the Metro Jets (ok, that’s horrible, but you get the idea.).

    Dallas could use a state name or call themselves the Arlington Cowboys when they move. What about the A’s when they move to Freemont? Do they keep the Oakland in their name?

    I know that it would get messy to change everyones names to a proper locale but it does bug me when I see a name that doesn’t fit. It also makes me appreciate the Patriots being “New England” instead of “Boston”.

    Just my $0.02[/quote]

    In this case it is weird because it crosses state lines, so I agree a little (plus NJ gets no credit for housing two NFL teams), but I guess I do understand that the “New York” refers to the city, and not necessarilly the state of NY–East Rutherford, NJ is definately within New York city’s sphere of influence.

  • Joey Guns | May 25, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”92096″]And, of course, before Curtis, the late, great Payne Stewart had NFL-geared shirts and plus-fours.[/quote]

    Damn, you beat me to it…..

    They even made a football card of Payne Stewart……

    http://i16.ebayimg.c...

  • patrick | May 25, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”91993″][quote comment=”91990″]

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?[/quote]

    I know the University of Kentucky and Michigan State played a basketball game at Ford Field a few years ago. They did it strictly to break the record for attendance to a college basketball game, which they did.

    I’m pretty sure two NHL teams played an outdoor game a few years ago too. The details escape me though. I’m sure someone on here would know more about it.[/quote]

    They also played a womens basketball game outside…. i think in arizona

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 25, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”92021″]from yesterday…

    [quote comment=”91945″][quote comment=”91804″][quote comment=”91790″][quote comment=”91789″][quote comment=”91788″][quote comment=”91778″][quote comment=”91777″][quote comment=”91776″][quote comment=”91775″][quote comment=”91774″][quote comment=”91771″]Read the headline of the article..Jeter’s got it..and gets it.[/quote]

    Give it up, dude. He doesn’t GET IT TM[/quote]
    This guy has does nothing but good to Major League Baseball, what’s there to give up…dude[/quote]

    Last time I checked, this was UNIWatch and everyone’s reference to him not “getting it” is in regard to his uniform. Calm down and stop taking it so personally.[/quote]

    got it

    ;-)[/quote]
    ..but there’s gotta be a pic with him showing some sock,[/quote]
    Exhibit A: #18-Good socks; #2-no socks.[/quote]
    that’s been established already..[/quote]
    Yeah, I know. Its still fun.[/quote]

    im a fan of the longer pant look. and i think jeter looks like a player in his uni. so i say he “gets it”.

    by the way, since when did “get it” refer to wearing stirrup hose anyway? i was under the impression that the term “get it” simply meant that people were aware of this type of minutae.[/quote]

    Todd, longer pants? I’ve seen your name around here often enough to think that you should know better…

    The long pants look is just that… a look. It’s like a fireman deciding to wear his helmet backwards. He might think it looks cool, he might even be right, but it’s not how you’re supposed to wear the uniform. I think that showing the uniform respect by wearing it properly comes before looking cool.[/quote]

    what?
    i should KNOW better?
    what is that?

    i KNOW that i like the way longer pants look.
    on jeter, on wright on other mlb’ers.

    i KNOW that i dont like the way pants look when they are tight and just below the knee. on any player, stirrups (cruz jr) or plain socks (soriano)

    i KNOW that i dont mind the way juan pierre looks cuz his pants are tailored to be baggy, to mimic the look of jackie and gehrig, et al.

    i KNOW that i like when some teams wear same color pants and shirts in football, alternate solid color baseball jerseys, the previously stated “pajama pant”, and that i dont mind the color purple.

    i KNOW that i “GET IT” because i pay attention to this kind of stuff in all sports, and not because of i am forced to follow some popular opinions here.

    i KNOW that you meant no disrespect and were just making friendly and joking conversation, but i dont like it when people make general statements that everyone subscribes to the same opinions here.

    i have an opinion here just like everyone does on what i like and dislike. you dont have to agree with it, but please respect that i have an opinion and that its my own.[/quote]

    Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, no matter how wrong you may be. Please see your doctor before beginning a chill pill regimen.

    Breathe in, breathe out, lighten up a bit, and move on. Thank you.

  • Kev | May 25, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”91976″]Hockey goalies do however tend to wear golf or batting gloves on their glove hand. It’s supposed to minimize the sting of catching a puck. I’ve tried it, but I don’t think it works. You can see a good example here on Belfour’s left hand.[/quote]

    Here’s a better image of that:

    http://sportsillustr...

    I, myself wear Mechanix Original Gloves under my goaltender’s gloves, on both hands.

    http://garage.mechan...

    I personally feel that it provides a little extra bit of control for me, as I have smaller hands. I’ve also known of hockey goaltenders to wear volleyball kneepads under their leg pads, as well as forward skaters who wear baseball sliding pants. This is all adult rec league, of course, and does not necessarily mean professional or semi-pro players have done the same.

  • Tim F. | May 25, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    I’ve been waiting for the Marlins to be renamed “Miami” for some time now. According to Back to the Future, the Chicago Cubs beat Miami in the 2015 World Series. Everything is falling into place…

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 25, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”92062″]Re: sports cross pollination
    There’s a golfer who is/was on the PGA Tour who had a Reebok contract, and would routinely wear Reebok PlayDry clothing that any of the NFL coaches would wear. I remember seeing him wearing Jets and Browns shirts, but since I do not remember his name, searching for pictures would be futile.[/quote]

    Ben Curtis, and earlier it was Payne Stewart.

  • Joe Drennan | May 25, 2007 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”92112″]I’ve been waiting for the Marlins to be renamed “Miami” for some time now. According to Back to the Future, the Chicago Cubs beat Miami in the 2015 World Series. Everything is falling into place…[/quote]
    All that’s left now is for the Marlins to be realigned to the American League. The Cubs can’t go there for two reasons. 1) Chicago already has an AL team in the Sox. 2) The Cubs are the oldest NL team. (I know the Reds are considered the oldest baseball team, but the Cubs were a charter NL team and have never left it).

  • Christopher | May 25, 2007 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”92112″]I’ve been waiting for the Marlins to be renamed “Miami” for some time now. According to Back to the Future, the Chicago Cubs beat Miami in the 2015 World Series. Everything is falling into place…[/quote]

    So, uhhhh, which of the teams will be moving to the AL?

    ;)

  • patrick | May 25, 2007 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”92092″]Being from W. MA, I appreciate the Patriot’s using New England rather than a more specific name. People who do not live in MA tend to think the entire state consists only of Boston and that general area… So for example even though there are Red Sox fans throughout New England (although CT likes to pretend its an extension of NYC sometimes), all Red Sox fans are characterized as being typical obnoxious R-droppping Bostonians, which doesn’t even come close to covering the entire fan base. Of course I am in NO WAY suggesting that the Red Sox change their name, that would be blasphemy. Just trying to explain how a regional name can make more sense.[/quote]

    Just to inform you, CT is really split about sports. Generally, anything south of Hartford is New York territory, anything north of hartford tends to go with new england or boston. Some consider the line at New Haven, however from personal experience, hartford’s a better line.

  • Mike Engle | May 25, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    More cross-pollination: football players at the speed positions will sometimes choose to wear track spikes. Deion Sanders was famous for this. Is this a myth or a true story?: he once did a 40-yard dash in track spikes and people thought that the shoes made his time too fast. Deion responded by taking off his track spikes and doing a faster 40 in football cleats.

  • Lake | May 25, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”92094″]I can remember going to the PA Farm Show when I was a little one and remember seeing a figure skater on a temporary ice surface. I wonder if anyone knows if they ever did an exhibition hockey game there.

    I doubt that it would happen, as you have a perfectly good arena just up the road in Hershey.
    I will admit, though, that there were ice shows at the Carrier Dome in the mid-to-late 90’s, even though there was a good arena in downtown Syracuse.[/quote]
    The War Memorial was way too small for an event like that. You can barely get 6500 in there.

  • Ryan | May 25, 2007 at 12:19 pm |

    The Quad City Flames were introduced as Calgary’s new affiliate yesterday. They had the new owners put on Calgary jerseys. Topping it all off, at least one still had the tags left on.

    http://qctimes.com/c...

  • Robert | May 25, 2007 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”92115″][quote comment=”92112″]I’ve been waiting for the Marlins to be renamed “Miami” for some time now. According to Back to the Future, the Chicago Cubs beat Miami in the 2015 World Series. Everything is falling into place…[/quote]

    So, uhhhh, which of the teams will be moving to the AL?

    ;)[/quote]

    Don’t give Selig any ideas. At one time, he wanted several teams to change leagues, and ultimately only the Brewers were forced to do so.

  • Mike Engle | May 25, 2007 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”92125″]The Quad City Flames were introduced as Calgary’s new affiliate yesterday. They had the new owners put on Calgary jerseys. Topping it all off, at least one still had the tags left on.

    http://qctimes.com/c...
    Whoa! The CCM cuff logo on the left wrist! That’s the tell-tale sign of a replica jersey. Probably a gift shop leftover in anticipation of the new RBK jerseys. If we made fun of the Washington Capitals for this reason, we cannot give Calgary a free pass. Say it with me…CHEESY!

  • Big O | May 25, 2007 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”92075″][quote comment=”92008″][quote comment=”91989″]Thank goodness the Marlins may change to the Miami Marlins.

    Now if we can just get the stupid Rockies to become the Denver Rockies the National League can once again be a city league like it should be…[/quote]

    How about the Rockies move out of Colorado entirely. That mile high stadium shit is really old, and in the words of the immortal Bob Murphy after his first game there, “That’s not baseball.”[/quote]

    How about you go %*^& yourself? You want to tell a city/region that supports baseball like Colorado has (4.5 million fans the first year, over 3 million in each of the first 9, despite consistently lousy teams) that they shouldn’t have a team? I’m sorry, we don’t WANT to drive 600 miles to Kansas City or 900 miles to Phoenix to see a game. Look, I don’t like a steady diet of 12-9 games any more than you do, but the humidor has really helped. Park effects used to regularly top 120 and even 130 here, but since 2003 they’ve been 112, 120, 113, 107, and 107. That’s right, since the beginning of last season only 7% more scoring than a neutral park![/quote]

    If the game was meant to be exactly the same every game their would be one ballpark that all the teams would have to play out of. One of the best things about baseball is going to different fields and seeing how each one makes the game a little different.

  • Dan Merker | May 25, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    A few things.

    1) I know Payne Stewart had a sponsorship deal with the NFL, and I think Ben Curtis does, so it’s not really equipment changing sports as it is cross-sport sponsorship — similar to the Brewers sponsoring the Milwaukee Admirals.
    2) I didn’t see anyone mention the obvious cross-sport equipment creep. The hockey-style catchers masks that are nearly ubiquitous now. I think Charlie O’Brien was the first to wear a goalie-style mask behind the plate. This caught on so well and so quickly that the old-fashioned catchers’ masks are now the exception, instead of the rule.

  • Jason | May 25, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”92121″]More cross-pollination: football players at the speed positions will sometimes choose to wear track spikes. Deion Sanders was famous for this. Is this a myth or a true story?: he once did a 40-yard dash in track spikes and people thought that the shoes made his time too fast. Deion responded by taking off his track spikes and doing a faster 40 in football cleats.[/quote]

    This is a common practice now at the combines. A lot of the guys were track spikes while running the 40.

  • Mark Mayall | May 25, 2007 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”92121″]More cross-pollination: football players at the speed positions will sometimes choose to wear track spikes. Deion Sanders was famous for this. Is this a myth or a true story?: he once did a 40-yard dash in track spikes and people thought that the shoes made his time too fast. Deion responded by taking off his track spikes and doing a faster 40 in football cleats.[/quote]

    As a track coach, I have to say that’s a myth. Track spikes are built for speed, such that lightness and flexibility are valued over durability. They offer nothing in terms of lateral support/stability when making cuts and the like. A WR or DB would tear them to shreds in a game situation. Also, track spikes have all their traction up front, from the ball of the foot forward–the rest of the sole is paper-thin and usually smooth. There are no sprinting spikes with spike elements in the heel. Specialty spikes for the high jump and javelin have spikes in the heel (for high jumpers, the heel spikes are only in the shoe worn on the takeoff foot) but you wouldn’t want to wear them on the football field either.

    example

    I have read where shoe companies claim to have designed football shoes with a track spike last (shape). The upper materials and outsole are still substantially different, and they still weigh more than track spikes do.

    The Oakland A’s of the ’70s had a guy on their team specifically to steal bases–his name escapes me but no doubt someone on this board knows who I’m referring to–and I’ve read that he wore track spikes in games. Assuming he didn’t play much in the field, he could get away with this.

  • tape | May 25, 2007 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”92126″][quote comment=”92115″][quote comment=”92112″]I’ve been waiting for the Marlins to be renamed “Miami” for some time now. According to Back to the Future, the Chicago Cubs beat Miami in the 2015 World Series. Everything is falling into place…[/quote]

    So, uhhhh, which of the teams will be moving to the AL?

    ;)[/quote]

    Don’t give Selig any ideas. At one time, he wanted several teams to change leagues, and ultimately only the Brewers were forced to do so.[/quote]

    and he should fucking move them back PRONTO.

    I’ve said this at least 237 times (not necessarily here). Move the Brewers back to the AL. “but uneven number of teams! scheduling problems!”

    1) who cares? you have interleague games now, Selig. spread the interleague games throughout the season. have 14 intraleague games and 1 interleague game every day all season. or more if you need to have 2-3 games at a given time for whatever reason.

    2) get rid of 2 teams, go back to having 2 divisions per league of 7 teams each. keep the wild cards if you like, I don’t mind those so much.

    3) add two teams! have 32 teams, 16 per league, 8 per division.

  • DCM | May 25, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    Payne Stewart always wore the plus-fours…knickers. So whatever NFL team he was dressed as, he would also wear that team’s socks. I think he like the all white socks the best, like the Bears wore with thier navy pants.

  • Mark Mayall | May 25, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”92136″][quote comment=”92121″]More cross-pollination: football players at the speed positions will sometimes choose to wear track spikes. Deion Sanders was famous for this. Is this a myth or a true story?: he once did a 40-yard dash in track spikes and people thought that the shoes made his time too fast. Deion responded by taking off his track spikes and doing a faster 40 in football cleats.[/quote]

    This is a common practice now at the combines. A lot of the guys were track spikes while running the 40.[/quote]

    If we’re talking about a comine situation and just running a 40, you’d be crazy not to wear track spikes. They’re lighter than football cleats, and Deion Sanders notwithstanding, lighter shoes will allow for faster sprinting.

    Wearing them in a game is another matter entirely.

  • Joe Drennan | May 25, 2007 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”92135″]2) I didn’t see anyone mention the obvious cross-sport equipment creep. The hockey-style catchers masks that are nearly ubiquitous now. I think Charlie O’Brien was the first to wear a goalie-style mask behind the plate. This caught on so well and so quickly that the old-fashioned catchers’ masks are now the exception, instead of the rule.[/quote]

    This isn’t an actualy hockey goalie mask, but rather a design inspired by one. There are some differences, cage, face opening, backplate. The worst difference is MLB’s refusal to let the catchers decorate the mask like goalies can in hockey.

    I like the old school look better though.

  • Ron | May 25, 2007 at 12:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”92009″][quote comment=”92000″][quote comment=”91994″][quote comment=”91990″]I just read on the Milwaukee Brewers web site that they are going to be hosting a bowling tournament there Oct. 28th. I have two things to say about this:

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?
    [/quote]
    Happens all the time. Wrigley Field was the long time home of the Bears. Infact. Wrigley Field has hosted more NFL games than any other venue. Hockey arenas are routinley used for basketball as well. Football stadiums are used for soccer.

    Basketball courts are used for volleyball. The list is endless.

    The small arena I coach at held the US Horse Shoe National Championships. That just shows it doesn’t have to be a major arena to host a cross over.[/quote]

    Bowling to me is interesting… It looked really strange when they did it at Miller Park. I think they just threw a couple of lanes on the 1st base line. I believe the Racing Sausages also made an appearance if I’m not mistaken.

    Also remember that the University of Wisconsin played Ohio State in hockey at Lambeau 2 years ago, and the 2010 NCAA Frozen Four will be at Ford Field in Detroit as well.[/quote]
    It cracks me up that the SF Giants tried for years to get a baseball-only facility and within a few years, they were already having college bowl games there, not to mention the XFL. Not exactly the best venue for football.[/quote]
    The Giants prefer not to have football at AT&T but they do need revenue since they are the ones paying for the ballpark.

    Also not sure if it has been mentioned but the Oilers and Canadians played outdoors at Commonwealth Stadium in Edmonton in 2003.

    There was talk the New York Rangers and New Jersey Devils were to play at Yankee Stadium but not sure if that is going to happen or not.

  • Matt | May 25, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    Add the Washington Redskins to the list of teams not playing in the city they represent. FED-Ex Field is inside the capital beltway but still technically Maryland.

  • DCM | May 25, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    Ron Washington was the A’s ‘designated runner’, another Charlie O. Finley idea. Washington is now a coach or manager for a MLB team, I think. And once in spring training he (or someone built like him) wore number 100. But not green shoes.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | May 25, 2007 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”92148″]Ron Washington was the A’s ‘designated runner’, another Charlie O. Finley idea. Washington is now a coach or manager for a MLB team, I think. And once in spring training he (or someone built like him) wore number 100. But not green shoes.[/quote]

    That would be Herb Washington – former world record holder in the 60 yard dash (indoor)

  • DCM | May 25, 2007 at 12:56 pm |

    The Colts Lenny Moore was one of the first football players to wear a sweatband, borrowed from tennis…according to the coffe-table book ‘The First 50 Years’.

  • Mets Fan in Chicago | May 25, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”92149″][quote comment=”92148″]Ron Washington was the A’s ‘designated runner’, another Charlie O. Finley idea. Washington is now a coach or manager for a MLB team, I think. And once in spring training he (or someone built like him) wore number 100. But not green shoes.[/quote]

    That would be Herb Washington – former world record holder in the 60 yard dash (indoor)[/quote]
    Dang – forgot my link: http://en.wikipedia....

  • Kek | May 25, 2007 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”92148″]Ron Washington was the A’s ‘designated runner’, another Charlie O. Finley idea. Washington is now a coach or manager for a MLB team, I think. And once in spring training he (or someone built like him) wore number 100. But not green shoes.[/quote]
    Herb Washington was the designated runner the A’s used. Ron Washington manages the Rangers now and although he coached in the A’s organization, never played as an A.

  • Shaftman | May 25, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”92145″][quote comment=”92009″][quote comment=”92000″][quote comment=”91994″][quote comment=”91990″]I just read on the Milwaukee Brewers web site that they are going to be hosting a bowling tournament there Oct. 28th. I have two things to say about this:

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?
    [/quote]
    Happens all the time. Wrigley Field was the long time home of the Bears. Infact. Wrigley Field has hosted more NFL games than any other venue. Hockey arenas are routinley used for basketball as well. Football stadiums are used for soccer.

    Basketball courts are used for volleyball. The list is endless.

    The small arena I coach at held the US Horse Shoe National Championships. That just shows it doesn’t have to be a major arena to host a cross over.[/quote]

    Bowling to me is interesting… It looked really strange when they did it at Miller Park. I think they just threw a couple of lanes on the 1st base line. I believe the Racing Sausages also made an appearance if I’m not mistaken.

    Also remember that the University of Wisconsin played Ohio State in hockey at Lambeau 2 years ago, and the 2010 NCAA Frozen Four will be at Ford Field in Detroit as well.[/quote]
    It cracks me up that the SF Giants tried for years to get a baseball-only facility and within a few years, they were already having college bowl games there, not to mention the XFL. Not exactly the best venue for football.[/quote]
    The Giants prefer not to have football at AT&T but they do need revenue since they are the ones paying for the ballpark.

    Also not sure if it has been mentioned but the Oilers and Canadians played outdoors at Commonwealth Stadium in Edmonton in 2003.

    There was talk the New York Rangers and New Jersey Devils were to play at Yankee Stadium but not sure if that is going to happen or not.[/quote]

    It was going to be Rangers vs Islanders.

  • patrick | May 25, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”92145″][quote comment=”92009″][quote comment=”92000″][quote comment=”91994″][quote comment=”91990″]I just read on the Milwaukee Brewers web site that they are going to be hosting a bowling tournament there Oct. 28th. I have two things to say about this:

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?
    [/quote]
    Happens all the time. Wrigley Field was the long time home of the Bears. Infact. Wrigley Field has hosted more NFL games than any other venue. Hockey arenas are routinley used for basketball as well. Football stadiums are used for soccer.

    Basketball courts are used for volleyball. The list is endless.

    The small arena I coach at held the US Horse Shoe National Championships. That just shows it doesn’t have to be a major arena to host a cross over.[/quote]

    Bowling to me is interesting… It looked really strange when they did it at Miller Park. I think they just threw a couple of lanes on the 1st base line. I believe the Racing Sausages also made an appearance if I’m not mistaken.

    Also remember that the University of Wisconsin played Ohio State in hockey at Lambeau 2 years ago, and the 2010 NCAA Frozen Four will be at Ford Field in Detroit as well.[/quote]
    It cracks me up that the SF Giants tried for years to get a baseball-only facility and within a few years, they were already having college bowl games there, not to mention the XFL. Not exactly the best venue for football.[/quote]
    The Giants prefer not to have football at AT&T but they do need revenue since they are the ones paying for the ballpark.

    Also not sure if it has been mentioned but the Oilers and Canadians played outdoors at Commonwealth Stadium in Edmonton in 2003.

    There was talk the New York Rangers and New Jersey Devils were to play at Yankee Stadium but not sure if that is going to happen or not.[/quote]

    About 10 years ago, Colombia played Ecuador at Shea stadium…. one goal was on the right field line, the other closer towards the left field fence. Very interesting to see Shea with no infield.

  • todd krevanchi | May 25, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    pac bell for the emerald bowl…
    [quote comment=”92110″]Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, no matter how wrong you may be. Please see your doctor before beginning a chill pill regimen.

    Breathe in, breathe out, lighten up a bit, and move on. Thank you.[/quote]

    please…

  • Adam | May 25, 2007 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote]
    Don’t give Selig any ideas. At one time, he wanted several teams to change leagues, and ultimately only the Brewers were forced to do so.[/quote]

    and he should fucking move them back PRONTO.

    I’ve said this at least 237 times (not necessarily here). Move the Brewers back to the AL. “but uneven number of teams! scheduling problems!”
    [/quote]

    Do we have any evidence at all the that Brewers WANT to move back to the AL? I think they’re perfectly happy in the NL having big crowds for 9 games a year against the Cubs. And I hope interleague play every day never happens. If it does, they might as well just get rid of the leagues altogether. Besides making it much less special, it would be stupid to mae teams play by two sets of rules throughout the entire season – at least now it’s only over a few week period.

  • todd krevanchi | May 25, 2007 at 1:11 pm |

    emerald bowl link
    http://www.emeraldbo...

  • Adam | May 25, 2007 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”92158″][quote]
    Don’t give Selig any ideas. At one time, he wanted several teams to change leagues, and ultimately only the Brewers were forced to do so.[/quote]

    and he should fucking move them back PRONTO.

    I’ve said this at least 237 times (not necessarily here). Move the Brewers back to the AL. “but uneven number of teams! scheduling problems!”
    [/quote]

    Do we have any evidence at all the that Brewers WANT to move back to the AL? I think they’re perfectly happy in the NL having big crowds for 9 games a year against the Cubs. And I hope interleague play every day never happens. If it does, they might as well just get rid of the leagues altogether. Besides making it much less special, it would be stupid to mae teams play by two sets of rules throughout the entire season – at least now it’s only over a few week period.[/quote]

    I messed up the quoting on that, obviously, but I think you get the idea. At this point, it’s been 10 years, it would be dumb to just randomly change the Brewers back.

  • GoTerriers | May 25, 2007 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”92137″]The Oakland A’s of the ’70s had a guy on their team specifically to steal bases–his name escapes me but no doubt someone on this board knows who I’m referring to–and I’ve read that he wore track spikes in games. Assuming he didn’t play much in the field, he could get away with this.[/quote]

    You’re thinking of “Hurricane” Herb Washington

    I love how the card lists his position as “Pinch Runner” He also has one of the greatest career statistical lines of all time . . .0 At-Bats, 33 Runs Scored, 31 Stolen Bases.

    God love Charley Finley!!!

  • Kek | May 25, 2007 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”92163″][quote comment=”92137″]The Oakland A’s of the ’70s had a guy on their team specifically to steal bases–his name escapes me but no doubt someone on this board knows who I’m referring to–and I’ve read that he wore track spikes in games. Assuming he didn’t play much in the field, he could get away with this.[/quote]

    You’re thinking of “Hurricane” Herb Washington

    I love how the card lists his position as “Pinch Runner” He also has one of the greatest career statistical lines of all time . . .0 At-Bats, 33 Runs Scored, 31 Stolen Bases.

    God love Charley Finley!!![/quote]
    Didn’t they bring him in a WS game and he got picked off? I’m thinking I remember that from one of the late Ron Luciano’s books.

    It was interesting idea (Finley had his share!) but even if smallball made a comeback, I couldn’t see a team today using a roster spot on a guy that only pinch ran.

  • Mark Max | May 25, 2007 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”92154″][quote comment=”92148″]Ron Washington was the A’s ‘designated runner’, another Charlie O. Finley idea. Washington is now a coach or manager for a MLB team, I think. And once in spring training he (or someone built like him) wore number 100. But not green shoes.[/quote]
    Herb Washington was the designated runner the A’s used. Ron Washington manages the Rangers now and although he coached in the A’s organization, never played as an A.[/quote]

    Herb Washington now owns the Youngstown Steelhounds, a Central Hockey League team affiliated with the Columbus BlueJackets.

  • jere | May 25, 2007 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”92135″]The hockey-style catchers masks that are nearly ubiquitous now.[/quote]

    That’s the first thing I thought of, too. A good example is shown in the pic of Manny with the angel pin from the current ESPN article, linked in this post.

  • Larry C | May 25, 2007 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”92076″][quote comment=”92064″]I always thought they should have been called the Miami Marlins anyway. Maybe it’s the old crank in me, but I dislike regional names (“New England”, “Golden State”, “Colorado”).[/quote]

    I’m a little bit different. I prefer the city names, but I would still choose a regional name over a state name. I really dislike it when they take the name of a city that they are either no longer in or were never in. (i.e. LA Angels of Anaheim, NY Jets/Giants, Dallas Cowboys, the list goes on…). Honor where you are…not where you have been or wish you were.[/quote]

    In that case, the Detroit Pistons have, for the longest time, really been the Auburn Hills Pistons, which really doesn’t have a good ring to it. Neither would the Inglewood Lakers, since that’s where they played during the 80’s. But it makes sense when you consider that the fans are from the Detroit area and LA area. (The same applies for the NY and Dallas Cowboys teams.)

    That’s why I can’t understand why the Bay Area teams get so huffy, especially with the whole 49ers situation and the political intervention (I mean, they’re still in the San Fran area, right?) and the whole issue with the Golden State name. I suspect there’s more regional pride at stake there. But if that was the case, then it has the be the only place in the US where that’s a problem since no other team seems to have any problem at all with usurping the name of the nearest major metropolitan area.

    My perspective is skewed in any case. I came from Detroit Catholic Central High School. Since the 70’s they haven’t been in Detroit at all: when I was there, they were located in the nearby suburb of Redford. And now the school is 10-15 miles farther away in Novi, MI. Yet, the name is still “Detroit” Catholic Central.

  • dgc | May 25, 2007 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”92147″]Add the Washington Redskins to the list of teams not playing in the city they represent. FED-Ex Field is inside the capital beltway but still technically Maryland.[/quote]

    It’s a bit sillier, the Washington Redskins play in Landover, Maryland and the team offices (Redskin Park) are in Ashburn, Virginia.

  • Jeff B | May 25, 2007 at 1:49 pm |

    I know this topic has been long abandoned on here, but no one mentioned that pro sand volleyball is played in tennis arenas.

  • Alan | May 25, 2007 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”92175″][quote comment=”92076″][quote comment=”92064″]I always thought they should have been called the Miami Marlins anyway. Maybe it’s the old crank in me, but I dislike regional names (“New England”, “Golden State”, “Colorado”).[/quote]

    I’m a little bit different. I prefer the city names, but I would still choose a regional name over a state name. I really dislike it when they take the name of a city that they are either no longer in or were never in. (i.e. LA Angels of Anaheim, NY Jets/Giants, Dallas Cowboys, the list goes on…). Honor where you are…not where you have been or wish you were.[/quote]

    In that case, the Detroit Pistons have, for the longest time, really been the Auburn Hills Pistons, which really doesn’t have a good ring to it. Neither would the Inglewood Lakers, since that’s where they played during the 80’s. But it makes sense when you consider that the fans are from the Detroit area and LA area. (The same applies for the NY and Dallas Cowboys teams.)

    That’s why I can’t understand why the Bay Area teams get so huffy, especially with the whole 49ers situation and the political intervention (I mean, they’re still in the San Fran area, right?) and the whole issue with the Golden State name. I suspect there’s more regional pride at stake there. But if that was the case, then it has the be the only place in the US where that’s a problem since no other team seems to have any problem at all with usurping the name of the nearest major metropolitan area.

    My perspective is skewed in any case. I came from Detroit Catholic Central High School. Since the 70’s they haven’t been in Detroit at all: when I was there, they were located in the nearby suburb of Redford. And now the school is 10-15 miles farther away in Novi, MI. Yet, the name is still “Detroit” Catholic Central.[/quote]

    Just be glad you’re not a fan of this team. They dont even have a home!

    http://www.atlanticl...

  • Kek | May 25, 2007 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”92175″][quote comment=”92076″][quote comment=”92064″]I always thought they should have been called the Miami Marlins anyway. Maybe it’s the old crank in me, but I dislike regional names (“New England”, “Golden State”, “Colorado”).[/quote]

    I’m a little bit different. I prefer the city names, but I would still choose a regional name over a state name. I really dislike it when they take the name of a city that they are either no longer in or were never in. (i.e. LA Angels of Anaheim, NY Jets/Giants, Dallas Cowboys, the list goes on…). Honor where you are…not where you have been or wish you were.[/quote]

    In that case, the Detroit Pistons have, for the longest time, really been the Auburn Hills Pistons, which really doesn’t have a good ring to it. Neither would the Inglewood Lakers, since that’s where they played during the 80’s. But it makes sense when you consider that the fans are from the Detroit area and LA area. (The same applies for the NY and Dallas Cowboys teams.)

    That’s why I can’t understand why the Bay Area teams get so huffy, especially with the whole 49ers situation and the political intervention (I mean, they’re still in the San Fran area, right?) and the whole issue with the Golden State name. I suspect there’s more regional pride at stake there. But if that was the case, then it has the be the only place in the US where that’s a problem since no other team seems to have any problem at all with usurping the name of the nearest major metropolitan area.

    My perspective is skewed in any case. I came from Detroit Catholic Central High School. Since the 70’s they haven’t been in Detroit at all: when I was there, they were located in the nearby suburb of Redford. And now the school is 10-15 miles farther away in Novi, MI. Yet, the name is still “Detroit” Catholic Central.[/quote]
    I think there’s a similar situation in Pittsburgh with our North Catholic High. There has been some talk of not only moving it out of the city, but out of Allegheny County. Some aren’t too crazy about this but I think that the Pittsburgh “area” is what is important with that designation.

    So many people say they are from “Pittsburgh” or “Baltimore” or “Detroit” but in reality, they live in suburb that an outsider might not know.

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 25, 2007 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”92157″]pac bell for the emerald bowl…
    [quote comment=”92110″]Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, no matter how wrong you may be. Please see your doctor before beginning a chill pill regimen.

    Breathe in, breathe out, lighten up a bit, and move on. Thank you.[/quote]

    please…[/quote]

    Todd,

    I’m kidding around with you. Seriously, LIGHTEN UP, FRANCIS.

    There are plenty of folks who disagree on these threads. I’ve had it out with Minna H. and others multiple times about the supposed “evils” of Chief Wahoo. I can handle it. They can handle it. We disagree, we bitch at each other for awhile, and we move on. Join the club, please. No membership fee required in this one. I’m glad that your obsession with Derek Jeter transcends his eschewing of the stirrups and sanitaries. Disagree with me, poke fun at me, and then fugghedaboudit. Maybe if you do it well, he’ll go Junior on you.

    All of this has been written with tongue firmly planted in cheek. I hope it’s taken that way. If not, I promise to not lose any sleep over it. Feel free to have the last word, because that’s all I’m going to say about it.

  • Jeff B | May 25, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    And if anyone was concerned, the lack of symmetry in the UniWatch page design has long annoyed me. OK so we have the white area in the middle with the green pannels on the side. Well whats with the grey column along the right that has all the links and ads and stuff? Even having that is fine, but what’s with the small grey area that is up by the logo on top that is separate from the other grey with the links? And why does the grey link column kind of hang off the side? It overlaps weird. It doesn’t bother me while I’m looking someplace down the page, but the header and top looks really disorganized to me.

  • Kek | May 25, 2007 at 1:59 pm |

    Just be glad you’re not a fan of this team. They dont even have a home!

    http://www.atlanticl...
    This is another interesting topic: teams that have no home games or are away from their traditional home for long periods of time.

    The AIFL (LOW level indoor football) had a team fold right before the season started but the players remained and they were known as the “AIFL Ghostriders”. I would equate this with the Atlantic League because of the independent status.

    The Arena Football League did this by design with the old Houston Thunderbears team, they got the unofficial nickname of the traveling bears because they played an all-road schedule in order to promote awareness of the league.

  • mike | May 25, 2007 at 2:00 pm |

    Paul,
    I was trying to think of a way for people to choose their numbers for their membership cards, when I looked at my TV and saw Futurama of all things. When playing blernsball, Leela wears the number 7/8. I don’t know what all of the old fashion numbered people will say, but this is better than same numbers.

  • Shaftman | May 25, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    Is it me or does Mark Teixeira look like he’s wearing a Superman costume underneath his uni?

  • John in Sacramento | May 25, 2007 at 2:04 pm |

    Re: Japanese HS jerseys: These were very popular in San Francisco about 25 years ago, and most were button-front, some flannel, some knit. I have one (“Dentsu”) that I got in 1981, that was the largest one I could find. No way I can wear it now. They were very cool, with numbers, and japanese lettering on the sleeves. I have not seen one in 15 years. Hope they become popular again. How about amateur uni’s from Latin America, China or other (BB) emerging countries? That would be great.

  • Roger | May 25, 2007 at 2:05 pm |

    This is a little off topic, but related. It does involve graphic design and logos.

    Barry Bond’s home run record chase.

    Last year, MLB put together some logos to commemorate the occasion. What happened to those? I forgot what they looked like. They’re not even on the Giants homepage. No countdown, no “special” balls with logo and serial number, nothing.

    Where did it all go?

  • Kim | May 25, 2007 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”92175″][quote comment=”92076″][quote comment=”92064″]I always thought they should have been called the Miami Marlins anyway. Maybe it’s the old crank in me, but I dislike regional names (“New England”, “Golden State”, “Colorado”).[/quote]

    I’m a little bit different. I prefer the city names, but I would still choose a regional name over a state name. I really dislike it when they take the name of a city that they are either no longer in or were never in. (i.e. LA Angels of Anaheim, NY Jets/Giants, Dallas Cowboys, the list goes on…). Honor where you are…not where you have been or wish you were.[/quote]

    In that case, the Detroit Pistons have, for the longest time, really been the Auburn Hills Pistons, which really doesn’t have a good ring to it. Neither would the Inglewood Lakers, since that’s where they played during the 80’s. But it makes sense when you consider that the fans are from the Detroit area and LA area. (The same applies for the NY and Dallas Cowboys teams.)

    That’s why I can’t understand why the Bay Area teams get so huffy, especially with the whole 49ers situation and the political intervention (I mean, they’re still in the San Fran area, right?) and the whole issue with the Golden State name. I suspect there’s more regional pride at stake there. But if that was the case, then it has the be the only place in the US where that’s a problem since no other team seems to have any problem at all with usurping the name of the nearest major metropolitan area.

    [/quote]

    SF, Oakland, and San Jose are three distinct cities that happen to be really close together. The only other similar regions that I can think of are LA/Anaheim, or Minneapolis/St. Paul.

    Minneapolis/St. Paul is the classic example of picking the state/regional name instead of picking one city over another.

    Santa Clara is across the street from San Jose, and it’s a fairly long (sometimes difficult) drive to SF.

    NJ gets it’s feather’s ruffled when a New York team calls NJ home, but refers to itself as NY.

    And of course, the Baltimore Orioles tried to do the opposite by reducing their use of Baltimore in order to appear like they represent DC, too.

  • Johnny K | May 25, 2007 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”92142″][quote comment=”92135″]2) I didn’t see anyone mention the obvious cross-sport equipment creep. The hockey-style catchers masks that are nearly ubiquitous now. I think Charlie O’Brien was the first to wear a goalie-style mask behind the plate. This caught on so well and so quickly that the old-fashioned catchers’ masks are now the exception, instead of the rule.[/quote]

    This isn’t an actualy hockey goalie mask, but rather a design inspired by one. There are some differences, cage, face opening, backplate. The worst difference is MLB’s refusal to let the catchers decorate the mask like goalies can in hockey.

    I like the old school look better though.[/quote]

    For the old school look, we’ve got it here in Detroit, now. On the new helmets MLB doesn’t allow “personal” designs but most ,if not all, have a team specific look to them. I, too, think it would be great to see the helmet art on the masks as well.

  • Roger | May 25, 2007 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”92201″]This is a little off topic, but related. It does involve graphic design and logos.

    Barry Bond’s home run record chase.

    Last year, MLB put together some logos to commemorate the occasion. What happened to those? I forgot what they looked like. They’re not even on the Giants homepage. No countdown, no “special” balls with logo and serial number, nothing.

    Where did it all go?[/quote]

    All I could find was a logo to comemmorate #715.

    http://www.logoshak....

    BTW > logoshak.com is pretty cool.

  • Nick Maibroda | May 25, 2007 at 2:13 pm |

    Cross-sports items. I forget which soccer goalkeeper it was but due to a head injury he worn a rugby scrum cap in nets. Paul had this in the ticker at some point. Can’t find the picture of it…

    When Doug Flutie was playing in the CFL there was big talk of how he used to wear glass cutter gloves in the cold weather.

    See pic here. Not quite cross-sports, but definitely cross-discipline. After all they are both used at the job.

  • Roger | May 25, 2007 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”92207″][quote comment=”92201″]This is a little off topic, but related. It does involve graphic design and logos.

    Barry Bond’s home run record chase.

    Last year, MLB put together some logos to commemorate the occasion. What happened to those? I forgot what they looked like. They’re not even on the Giants homepage. No countdown, no “special” balls with logo and serial number, nothing.

    Where did it all go?[/quote]

    All I could find was a logo to comemmorate #715.

    http://www.logoshak....

    BTW > logoshak.com is pretty cool.[/quote]

    They’re not even selling shirts. I just checked.

    I know the stuff exists. I saw it.

  • Roger | May 25, 2007 at 2:20 pm |

    This is about it.[quote comment=”92214″][quote comment=”92207″][quote comment=”92201″]This is a little off topic, but related. It does involve graphic design and logos.

    Barry Bond’s home run record chase.

    Last year, MLB put together some logos to commemorate the occasion. What happened to those? I forgot what they looked like. They’re not even on the Giants homepage. No countdown, no “special” balls with logo and serial number, nothing.

    Where did it all go?[/quote]

    All I could find was a logo to comemmorate #715.

    http://www.logoshak....

    BTW > logoshak.com is pretty cool.[/quote]

    They’re not even selling shirts. I just checked.

    I know the stuff exists. I saw it.[/quote]

    This is about it …

    http://bonds-passes-...

    … and it’s not even official.

  • Mark | May 25, 2007 at 2:30 pm |

    Minnesota is looking to go gold on gold for their home game against Ohio State this season, as well as other changes to their uniform. Speaking of Minnesota, The Timberwolves need a complete makeover.

  • John in Sacramento | May 25, 2007 at 2:32 pm |

    Re the Golden State Warriors: I believe that when they moved to Oakland they intended to play some games in San Diego, like the wildly popular Kansas City-Omaha Kings. I don’t think that ever happened. They probably did not consider being the Oakland Warriors, because unlike the A’s and Raiders, the Warriors represent the entire Bay Area. By the way, the Warriors must stop wearing those “The City” throwbacks. “The City” is not Oakland.

  • Mr. Met | May 25, 2007 at 2:32 pm |

    The Florida Marlins already have a tailor-made logo should they make the name change to Miami Marlins.

    Also, looks like logo-creep has infested Dressed to the Nines; look at that swooshy design on those middle cleats……

  • Kenny | May 25, 2007 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”92108″][quote comment=”91993″][quote comment=”91990″]

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?[/quote]

    I know the University of Kentucky and Michigan State played a basketball game at Ford Field a few years ago. They did it strictly to break the record for attendance to a college basketball game, which they did.

    I’m pretty sure two NHL teams played an outdoor game a few years ago too. The details escape me though. I’m sure someone on here would know more about it.[/quote]

    They also played a womens basketball game outside…. i think in arizona[/quote]

    Yes in Arizona

  • Jon in SLC | May 25, 2007 at 2:35 pm |

    The Salt Lake Bees (the local Triple A team)is wearing Camo jerseys tonight. They also played on Mothers Day in Pink jerseys.

  • Broker75 | May 25, 2007 at 2:36 pm |

    from yesterday:
    [quote comment=”91937″][quote comment=”91766″][quote comment=”91757″][quote comment=”91636″][quote comment=”91576″][quote comment=”91558″]Andy Pettitte was showing some sock last night.[/quote]

    I noticed that Pettite had ’em high, as did A-Rod, Cano and Mientkiewicz (sp?)

    Come on, Jeter… Get It[/quote]
    ahh.., Jeter’s got it thank you very much..

    No, he doesn’t get it. If he did, he would look more like this.

    !![/quote]

    Please note the fantastic stirrup/white sanitary hose combo.[/quote]
    It’s not mandatory to have high socks. Jeter gets it.[/quote]

    Please remember that you are, obviously, the new guy here. That being said, there is certain terminology that you need to learn before you pop off about Jeter “getting it” when he clearly does not.[/quote]

    I don’t care if you created this site,,,stop sounding like a prick.

  • Broker75 | May 25, 2007 at 2:40 pm |

    and from today..

    [/quote]Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, no matter how wrong you may be. Please see your doctor before beginning a chill pill regimen.

    Breathe in, breathe out, lighten up a bit, and move on. Thank you.[/quote]

    is this fool for real?

  • Stuby | May 25, 2007 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”92227″][quote comment=”92108″][quote comment=”91993″][quote comment=”91990″]

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?[/quote]

    I know the University of Kentucky and Michigan State played a basketball game at Ford Field a few years ago. They did it strictly to break the record for attendance to a college basketball game, which they did.

    I’m pretty sure two NHL teams played an outdoor game a few years ago too. The details escape me though. I’m sure someone on here would know more about it.[/quote]

    They also played a womens basketball game outside…. i think in arizona[/quote]

    Yes in Arizona[/quote]
    Boy, what a turnout for that game!

  • MH | May 25, 2007 at 2:48 pm |

    Finally a way to make the Oregon unis look nice

    No. NOT nice…just more tolerable.

    “… just more tolerable”!? Are you kidding me??!! Are we looking at the same pic? Surely, we all at least agree that those Oregon unis look a tad nicer than “more tolerable”?

    Go Ducks, at least when Dayle is cheering.

  • Kerry | May 25, 2007 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”92112″]I’ve been waiting for the Marlins to be renamed “Miami” for some time now. According to Back to the Future, the Chicago Cubs beat Miami in the 2015 World Series. Everything is falling into place…[/quote]
    Don’t forget that MIAMI has to change their nickname to the Gators too since that’s whos the CUBS beat.

  • Kenny | May 25, 2007 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”92235″][quote comment=”92227″][quote comment=”92108″][quote comment=”91993″][quote comment=”91990″]

    1) It says they had this bowling tournament at Miller Park in 2004. Has anyone heard of a bowling tournament being held at a baseball venue ever aside from this? For that matter have there been any other sports taking place in different sports venues in general?[/quote]

    I know the University of Kentucky and Michigan State played a basketball game at Ford Field a few years ago. They did it strictly to break the record for attendance to a college basketball game, which they did.

    I’m pretty sure two NHL teams played an outdoor game a few years ago too. The details escape me though. I’m sure someone on here would know more about it.[/quote]

    They also played a womens basketball game outside…. i think in arizona[/quote]

    Yes in Arizona[/quote]
    Boy, what a turnout for that game![/quote]

    All they needed to add was chains instead of nets

  • Stuby | May 25, 2007 at 2:55 pm |

    I know we have seen the NL All-Star BP jersey on here. I couldn’t remember if anyone had posted the logo for the AL. Granted its just a T-shirt, but you get the idea. To me the GG bridge looks more like power lines.

  • Mark in Shiga | May 25, 2007 at 3:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”92237″][quote comment=”92112″]I’ve been waiting for the Marlins to be renamed “Miami” for some time now. According to Back to the Future, the Chicago Cubs beat Miami in the 2015 World Series. Everything is falling into place…[/quote]
    Don’t forget that MIAMI has to change their nickname to the Gators too since that’s whos the CUBS beat.[/quote]

    Great to see that the Cubs will be remiving that silly (R) trademark sign from their logo in the next eight years!

  • Jonathon | May 25, 2007 at 3:03 pm |

    The Landover Redskins. Ha.

    The Opa-Locka Dolphins

    The Orchard Park Bills

    The Glendale Cardinals

  • scott | May 25, 2007 at 3:03 pm |

    The Revolution and Barnstormers in the Atlantic League went old school “Roses” last weekend:

    http://www.yorkrevol...

  • Anthony Verna | May 25, 2007 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”92244″][quote comment=”92237″][quote comment=”92112″]I’ve been waiting for the Marlins to be renamed “Miami” for some time now. According to Back to the Future, the Chicago Cubs beat Miami in the 2015 World Series. Everything is falling into place…[/quote]
    Don’t forget that MIAMI has to change their nickname to the Gators too since that’s whos the CUBS beat.[/quote]

    Great to see that the Cubs will be remiving that silly (R) trademark sign from their logo in the next eight years![/quote]

    Hey hey hey!

    That silly symbol is the cornerstone of some of our jobs. ;)

  • Jonathon | May 25, 2007 at 3:11 pm |

    Didn’t the Marlins wear throwback jerseys a couple years ago – Miami Marlins jerseys to commemorate the International league Team? Royal blue with an orange “M” logo, right?

    Does anyone have pictures of that? I’m thinking that if the Mrlins change the name, they’d replace the “F” with the “M,” using the same typeface as the old minor league logo.

    Scroll about half way down this link to see the logo.

    http://www.logoserve...

  • Jonathon | May 25, 2007 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”92246″]The Revolution and Barnstormers in the Atlantic League went old school “Roses” last weekend:

    http://www.yorkrevol...

    The jersey is creme colored, but his pants are white.

  • Scott | May 25, 2007 at 3:14 pm |

    With the NCAA men’s championships being held this weekend, it seems like a perfect time to add lacrosse to the sports where a piece of equipment has been modified from its original use.

    The “modern” lax helmet is really a kayaking helmet with a mask on it. (Hence the model name – Cascade).

    The old helmet – you can sort of see one in this virtual tour was much bulker and heavier on a player’s head.

  • Stuby | May 25, 2007 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”92251″][quote comment=”92246″]The Revolution and Barnstormers in the Atlantic League went old school “Roses” last weekend:

    http://www.yorkrevol...

    The jersey is creme colored, but his pants are white.[/quote]
    And the other manager’s jersey is way too tight.

  • todd krevanchi | May 25, 2007 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”92232″]and from today..

    [/quote]Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, no matter how wrong you may be. Please see your doctor before beginning a chill pill regimen.

    Breathe in, breathe out, lighten up a bit, and move on. Thank you.[/quote]

    is this fool for real?[/quote]

    apparently…
    i was surprised to find out i had an obsession with jeter! someone should have told me earlier!

    he was right on one thing when he said, “disagree with me…”. because i do, in fact i disagree with a lot of the popular opinions here.

    i have never made an attack at someone, mentioned to someone that their opinion was wrong, or told anyone what they should or shouldnt KNOW.

  • Minna H. | May 25, 2007 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”91983″]That’s an amazing collection of Japanese amateur jerseys up there. How did Minnesota get so many of them? It’s not like Japanese people flock there on vacation, right?

    And Minna, there’s a vertically-lettered North Akashi HS jersey for what looks like $15.99; right in the neighborhood, isn’t it?[/quote]

    Mark in Shiga, that is pretty cool. No, we don’t get too many Japanese people round these parts. I should have thought of suggesting Ragstock to Paul myself. I may have to meander over there and check out the uni-related merchandise.

  • Minna H. | May 25, 2007 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”92257″][quote comment=”91983″]That’s an amazing collection of Japanese amateur jerseys up there. How did Minnesota get so many of them? It’s not like Japanese people flock there on vacation, right?

    And Minna, there’s a vertically-lettered North Akashi HS jersey for what looks like $15.99; right in the neighborhood, isn’t it?[/quote]

    Mark in Shiga, that is pretty cool. No, we don’t get too many Japanese people round these parts. I should have thought of suggesting Ragstock to Paul myself. I may have to meander over there and check out the uni-related merchandise.[/quote]

    Quoting me, kind of: Paul, all this means is that you will have to come back to MN in the near future.

  • Amy | May 25, 2007 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”92256″]
    i have never made an attack at someone, mentioned to someone that their opinion was wrong, or told anyone what they should or shouldnt KNOW.[/quote]

    I just wanted to chime in because I’ve noticed the tone on this comment board degrading. One of the things I’ve enjoyed most about this site is that the comments section is typically unusually civil for an internet forum (compared to the comments at ESPN for example). Lately things have started to skew towards and attitude of “we all have to agree or else”… Usually conversation is more interesting when people don’t agree. Todd, I know you’re a regular contributor here and it’s too bad that you’re having to defend yourself today.

    And for what its worth, I’m totally indifferent on the issue of showing stirrups or not.

  • Broker75 | May 25, 2007 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”92256″][quote comment=”92232″]and from today..

    [/quote]Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, no matter how wrong you may be. Please see your doctor before beginning a chill pill regimen.

    Breathe in, breathe out, lighten up a bit, and move on. Thank you.[/quote]

    is this fool for real?[/quote]

    apparently…
    i was surprised to find out i had an obsession with jeter! someone should have told me earlier!

    he was right on one thing when he said, “disagree with me…”. because i do, in fact i disagree with a lot of the popular opinions here.

    i have never made an attack at someone, mentioned to someone that their opinion was wrong, or told anyone what they should or shouldnt KNOW.[/quote]

    Precisely, that’s what’s amazing, what kind of person tells someone what they should or shouldn’t know..I think insanity is heading his way..

  • Perry | May 25, 2007 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”92208″]Cross-sports items. I forget which soccer goalkeeper it was but due to a head injury he worn a rugby scrum cap in nets. Paul had this in the ticker at some point. Can’t find the picture of it…
    [/quote]

    Peter Cech of Chelsea. Here’s a pic:

    http://tinyurl.com/2...

  • Minna H. | May 25, 2007 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”92049″]I’m just guessing here, but i dont think those Japanese jerseys are real teams. I have been in two different second-hand shops in two different states that had a rack that looked exactly the same, with about 50 Japanese baseball jerseys. I even owned a couple of the Jerseys at one point. They were definitely replicas at best.

    I remember trying to find information about the “teams” whose jerseys i had and never came up with anything. I suppose they could be high school replicas or what we would call semi-pro or even amateur.[/quote]

    Cork, that is a good guess. Obviously, I am replying as I read–you guys have sure been busy today. Now, I definitely will have to check it out to see what’s the deal. Will let you know when I do.

  • Minna H. | May 25, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”92221″]Minnesota is looking to go gold on gold for their home game against Ohio State this season, as well as other changes to their uniform. Speaking of Minnesota, The Timberwolves need a complete makeover.[/quote]

    No, Mark, no! I disagree about the Timberwolves. I like the uniforms the way they are.

    As for the Twins, it really makes sense to be the Minnesota Twins rather than one city or the other. It would be too fractious to call them the Minneapolis Twins or the St. Paul Twins. About the only other option would be the Twin Cities Twins, which just sounds dumb.

    Whew! Almost caught up now.

  • Teebz | May 25, 2007 at 3:53 pm |

    If you’re going for a Japanese ball jersey or two, hook me up, Minna.

    I’ll send down some Tandoori Sizzler-flavoured Doritos. :o)

  • Sal | May 25, 2007 at 4:09 pm |

    “Great to see that the Cubs will be remiving that silly (R) trademark sign from their logo in the next eight years!”

    That logo comes from the Chicago Athletic Association … which allows the Cubs to use it.

  • Bob A | May 25, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”92096″]And, of course, before Curtis, the late, great Payne Stewart had NFL-geared shirts and plus-fours.[/quote]

    Payne is Saints outfit. He was my family’s favorite golfer. RIP Payne.

  • Jerico | May 25, 2007 at 4:20 pm |

    More venues holding events unusual to the venue (a la Emerald Bowl in Pac Bell Park)

    1932 NFL Championship Playoff in Chicago Stadium (arugably the first-ever arena football game; Bears won 9-0 on an 80-yard field that mandated hashmarks for the first time in NFL history)

    Ski jumping at Soldier Field, circa 1956

  • Bob A | May 25, 2007 at 4:21 pm |

    And one more of Payne Stewart, this one in Bears gear. Great socks!

  • Matthew S. | May 25, 2007 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”92289″]And one more of Payne Stewart, this one in Bears gear. Great socks![/quote]

    Does anyone recall which tournament it was, right after Payne’s death, in which all the golfers participating cuffed up their pants or wore knickers with long songs in tribute to him?

  • Matthew S. | May 25, 2007 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”92301″][quote comment=”92289″]And one more of Payne Stewart, this one in Bears gear. Great socks![/quote]

    Does anyone recall which tournament it was, right after Payne’s death, in which all the golfers participating cuffed up their pants or wore knickers with long songs in tribute to him?[/quote]

    Er, long socks. Not songs. I’m only a few minutes away from a 3 day weekend and it’s taking over my mind.

  • Matt from the 'Ville | May 25, 2007 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”92287″][quote comment=”92096″]And, of course, before Curtis, the late, great Payne Stewart had NFL-geared shirts and plus-fours.[/quote]

    Payne is Saints outfit. He was my family’s favorite golfer. RIP Payne.[/quote]

    Bob A. — I have to agree with you. PS was my favorite as well. I miss what he brought to the tour. He was always fun to follow on the course during the practice rounds….

  • jake | May 25, 2007 at 5:41 pm |

    Cliff Floyd was wearing a yet to be identified undershirt in last nights game. Does anyone know what it is or how long he has been wearing it?

  • junkland | May 25, 2007 at 6:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”92250″]Didn’t the Marlins wear throwback jerseys a couple years ago – Miami Marlins jerseys to commemorate the International league Team? Royal blue with an orange “M” logo, right?

    Does anyone have pictures of that? I’m thinking that if the Mrlins change the name, they’d replace the “F” with the “M,” using the same typeface as the old minor league logo.

    Scroll about half way down this link to see the logo.

    http://www.logoserve...

    Very Cool Page!

    I like the Havana Sugar Kings Logo.

    Can you imagine what the travel must’ve been like in the late 50s? A roadtrip to Cuba!

  • buccos | May 25, 2007 at 7:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”92012″][quote comment=”92010″][quote comment=”91989″]Thank goodness the Marlins may change to the Miami Marlins.

    Now if we can just get the stupid Rockies to become the Denver Rockies the National League can once again be a city league like it should be…[/quote]

    You’ll still have the Arizona Diamondbacks…[/quote]

    and Texas Rangers…[/quote]
    he said national league

  • Skippy | May 25, 2007 at 7:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”91992″]Looks like the shoulders on those Oregon jerseys look different than the diamond cutters of last year, looks more like a checkeboard

    thoughts?[/quote]

    What shoulders?

  • schuby | May 25, 2007 at 7:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”92332″][quote comment=”92250″]Didn’t the Marlins wear throwback jerseys a couple years ago – Miami Marlins jerseys to commemorate the International league Team? Royal blue with an orange “M” logo, right?

    Does anyone have pictures of that? I’m thinking that if the Mrlins change the name, they’d replace the “F” with the “M,” using the same typeface as the old minor league logo.

    Scroll about half way down this link to see the logo.

    http://www.logoserve...

    Very Cool Page!

    I like the Havana Sugar Kings Logo.

    Can you imagine what the travel must’ve been like in the late 50s? A roadtrip to Cuba![/quote]

    That Durham Bulls one looks dangerously close to the old Broncos logo.

  • Sage Confuicus | May 25, 2007 at 7:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”92063″][quote comment=”92016″][quote comment=”91971″]

    Umm… Those hockey pictures are of Farjestads BK not of Vastra Frolunda HC. Also, the golden helmets are a sign of honor in european hockey. In most leagues a teams top scorer has to wear a golden helmet to signify that he is the best.

    Yeah, but they’re ALL wearing the gold helmets in the photo.

    Also, what kind of honor flows from looking like a total idiot. I seriously doubt crap like this would fly in the NHL. Respect the game, folks.[/quote]

    Yeah. They kind of look like cylons.[/quote]

    Couldn’t you have linked to this Cylon instead?[/quote]

    Ahh yes, the new Cylons didn’t produce quite the same effect. Your choice is certainly better on the eyes though.

  • alex | May 25, 2007 at 8:20 pm |

    ther are pictures of the bowling at Miller Park at Awful Announcing.

  • Minna H. | May 25, 2007 at 11:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”92276″]If you’re going for a Japanese ball jersey or two, hook me up, Minna.

    I’ll send down some Tandoori Sizzler-flavoured Doritos. :o)[/quote]

    Teebz, deal! I’ll check out the jerseys and see if they are authentic. In return, I want two bags of Tandoori Sizzler Doritos. Of course, I could probably get them from them from the website, but where is the fun in that?

  • =bg= | May 25, 2007 at 11:54 pm |

    I don’t have a problem at all with the Niners maybe having having their new place in Santa Clara. It’s the SF Bay Area, a huge metro region.

    For those not familiar with the area, we have the North Bay (Marin Co,) the East Bay (Oakland, Berkeley, etc.) and the South Bay (San Jose, Santa Clara, Silicon Valley, eBay, Yahoo!, Google, Apple, you name it.)

    The Niners have their offices and practice facility there, due to the fact it’s further south, and thus warmer. If they can get a fab new stadium done and it has to be Santa Clara, so what? (I can’t afford tickets whether it’s @ the new place or the old dump.) Candlestick is a horrible decaying rusty relic, and an embarrassment to the Bay Area. It needs to be blown up.

    Golden State Warriors? I have no idea why they say that and not “Oakland Warriors.”

    While we’re at it, you can bet the farm that they will be “The Oakland A’s of Fremont” once their new high-tech Cisco Field palace is built.

    And of course, we DO have the best baseball park on the planet not named Wrigley or Fenway, right there off 3rd & King Streets…where it’s a chilly 50 degrees.

  • Colt | May 26, 2007 at 1:03 am |

    You have to admit, Santa Clara 49ers and Fremont A’s both sound pretty bush league. Oakland Warriors would be nice, though.

    Colt
    http://www.coltrosen...

  • Mike from Queens | May 26, 2007 at 3:39 am |

    [quote comment=”92075″]How about you go %*^& yourself? You want to tell a city/region that supports baseball like Colorado has (4.5 million fans the first year, over 3 million in each of the first 9, despite consistently lousy teams) that they shouldn’t have a team? I’m sorry, we don’t WANT to drive 600 miles to Kansas City or 900 miles to Phoenix to see a game. Look, I don’t like a steady diet of 12-9 games any more than you do, but the humidor has really helped. Park effects used to regularly top 120 and even 130 here, but since 2003 they’ve been 112, 120, 113, 107, and 107. That’s right, since the beginning of last season only 7% more scoring than a neutral park![/quote]

    You need to relax. Even if I was suggesting that Colorado fans didn’t deserve a team, which I was not doing, you still need to relax. I simply think Coors Field has become gimmicky with its insane dimensions, thin air, and humidor. I’d rather not see it. This is enough for you to tell me to go fuck myself? Again. Breathe. Relax. Have some dip.

  • Brendan | May 26, 2007 at 4:55 am |

    [quote comment=”92241″]I know we have seen the NL All-Star BP jersey on here. I couldn’t remember if anyone had posted the logo for the AL. Granted its just a T-shirt, but you get the idea. To me the GG bridge looks more like power lines.[/quote]

    It’s really too bad they didn’t use the Bay Bridge for the AL jersey.

  • TD | May 26, 2007 at 5:54 am |

    [quote comment=”92274″][quote comment=”92221″]Minnesota is looking to go gold on gold for their home game against Ohio State this season, as well as other changes to their uniform. Speaking of Minnesota, The Timberwolves need a complete makeover.[/quote]

    No, Mark, no! I disagree about the Timberwolves. I like the uniforms the way they are.

    As for the Twins, it really makes sense to be the Minnesota Twins rather than one city or the other. It would be too fractious to call them the Minneapolis Twins or the St. Paul Twins. About the only other option would be the Twin Cities Twins, which just sounds dumb.

    Whew! Almost caught up now.[/quote]

    I like the Wolves unis now, except for the font change on the names a few years ago. They went from the more rounded wider letters to a thinner font that more closely resembled their crappy replica jerseys.

  • Antti Salmi | May 26, 2007 at 7:11 am |

    As somebody pointed out, in Swedish hockey champions receive golden championship helmets in similar fashion to championship t-shirts and caps.

    In Finnish hockey league each team’s leading scorer has to wear a golden helmet. These helmets are part of state lottery company’s league-wide sponsorship deal.

    In mid-90’s Jokerit Helsinki were sponsored by kettle factory Hackman, and they wore silver helmets. When they wore those with purple and teal jerseys, it pretty much made you want to poke your eyes out.

  • Björn | May 26, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    Antti, you’re absolutely correct. This tradition started in the early or mid-1980’s (don’t know the exact year). In those days most Swedish Elite League teams wore Jofa helmets and I would assume that it was partly seen as a promotional opportunity in the eyes of Jofa. If we go back to the 1960’s there was a lot more competition among Swedish helmet makers, so that would probably have been an obstruction towards making it a tradition, if anyone would have come up with the idea.

    In the 1990’s we have seen CCM and Reebok following this national tradition, producing a set of golden helmets for “their” respective teams, when they’ve won.

    This april, we saw Reebok golden helmets for MoDo.

    In 1979 however, when MoDo won their first national championship, they wore elegant Northland helmets and the tradition with golden helmets was still some years away. Thankfully.

  • Josh Huffines | May 26, 2007 at 2:44 pm |

    It pains me to say this, as a former Sooner and current Husky…but um…GO DUCKS!