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Left Is Right and Right Is Wrong — Except When It’s the Other Way Around

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I have a book review up on the left side of today’s Page 2 index page — look here.

Meanwhile: As most of you probably know, the Reds used an odd format for their road jerseys in the mid-1990s: Instead of putting the uni number on the left, as most teams do, they put it on the right, which always looked kinda weird. They started using this design in 1993 and maintained it through 1998, as you can see here.

But reader Louis Griffel has noticed something interesting: If you look through the pictorial record, you’ll find that there were some Reds who had their numbers on the “normal” side. He came up with several examples, and I then went and found some more (additional examples here and here). I even found one shot that shows one player with the number on the left and one with the number on the right, as seen here.

Pretty amazing to see such an obvious mistake repeated so many times. I guess the team’s stitcher just couldn’t get used to the “wrong”-side format.

Incidentally, as you may have noticed in some of those pics, the ’97 Reds had a lot of uni-related quirks, beginning with their really short sleeves. That’s because Deion Sanders cut his sleeves short (supposedly to honor Jackie Robinson, although Jackie never really wore his as short as Deion did), which drew a rebuke from the league prexy, who said everyone on the team had to wear uniform-length sleeves. So the rest of the team went super-short-sleeved as a gesture of solidarity to Sanders. This had the effect of pushing the road jersey’s two sleeve patches (team logo on the left, Jackie Robinson 50th-anniversary logo on the right) up onto the shoulder area. And since the Reds’ home jersey during this period was a vest, the Jackie Robinson patch appeared on their chest that season. Can you imagine if this web site had existed back then? We would’ve had a field day with that team.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Great socks on this sprinter from James Logan High in Union City, California (as spotted by Tim Erney). … And speaking of socks, check out the Highland Park girls’ golf team at the Texas State Tournament, plus they also wore temporary “HP” facial tattoos (with big thanks to Nolan Brett). … Still more sock sensations: Sporting Lisbon (additional views here, here, and here, courtesy of Thomas Galvin). … Latest example of illustrators instinctively including stirrups when depicting a baseball uniform: yesterday’s Page 2 comic. … Some of you scoffed when I took Rudy Giuliani to task for wearing so much Yankees gear. But now his campaign may be in hot water because it turns out that he accepted four World Series rings from the Bombers and then paid for them long after the fact at way below market rate, which may be an ethical or even legal violation. Full details here. … The Players Championship logo is changing from this to this (with thanks to Sam Mitchell). … Bryan Redemske notes that the elastic in Sammy Sosa’s sleeve cuffs appears to be much looser this season. In some shots, in fact, it looks like he may have ditched it altogether (draw your own conclusions here, here, here, here, and here). … Jeff Knepper notes that Jered Weaver has the initials “EHH” embroidered onto the back of his glove. “According to Wikipedia (for what it’s worth), he also writes these initials on the back of the mound,” Knepper writes. “It’s in honor of his deceased grandparents, Ed and Helen Hamlin.”

 

135 comments to Left Is Right and Right Is Wrong — Except When It’s the Other Way Around

  • Timmy D | May 10, 2007 at 8:34 am |

    I noticed something in the “Shirley Temple” cartoon on the left in #21’s locker…the number on the uniform is clearly not #21, it looks like an 8 or possibly a 3. I know its a very small detail, but with all of the uniwatch training I have gone through, those things pop out. Just thought I would share that little nugget.

  • Vincent A. Cipollone | May 10, 2007 at 8:41 am |

    In response to Sosa’s cuffs, it is evident he still does it because the sleeve crunckles up but he does it much looser than he did in the past

  • Timmy D | May 10, 2007 at 8:44 am |

    Do you think Sammy and Rafael both look so happy in that picture because they just finished pricking themselves with needles? Just a thought

  • Nolan | May 10, 2007 at 8:49 am |

    Anybody know what the logo was on the t-shirt Derek Fisher was wearing when TNT showed him walking to the locker room. (In quick search, I couldn’t find a pic)

    Description: 5 small leaves inside a circle with one of the leaves an orange color, the rest are white.

    I know I’ve seen it just don’t know where.

  • Justin | May 10, 2007 at 8:57 am |

    Does Jeff Weaver also have his grandparents initials on his glove? Or did he not love them as much?

  • JJD | May 10, 2007 at 9:04 am |

    I more reason to dislike the University of Nike Oregon. Last night KJR-AM in Seattle interviewed Oregon AD Patrick Kilkenny (sp?), and he was asked a question about Phil Knight. Part of his response was the Knight “bleeds lemon and green”.

    Seriously, LEMON and green? Blah.

  • Jason in Lexington | May 10, 2007 at 9:10 am |

    [quote comment=”84131″]In response to Sosa’s cuffs, it is evident he still does it because the sleeve crunckles up but he does it much looser than he did in the past[/quote]

    Looks like Sosa’s arms aren’t as big as they used to be. Maybe his sleeves just appear to be more loose. Just kidding. I do wonder how his arms shrunk so much though?

  • Clevo | May 10, 2007 at 9:13 am |

    Weaver also scribbles EHH in the dirt at the back of the mound before each inning. On the Indians broadcast last night, they said it was in honor of his grandparents.

    Also, I noted last night that Weaver’s uni looks almost 1940’s style. Baggy jersey, baggy pants hiked up, and stirrups very low in his shoes

    http://espn-i.starwa...

  • Joe | May 10, 2007 at 9:13 am |

    I LOVED the Reds uni’s in 1997. As wierd as they were, I just really thought they were cool. They reminded me of the mid 60’s O’s jersey’s that I love so much.

  • Cathy | May 10, 2007 at 9:26 am |

    Paul, or anyone else, notice that Matt Murton of the Cubs switched from high pants to low pants DURING the game. Len and Bob (TV guys) were talking about it and said they couldn’t remember a time when a player did that during a game…I can’t find Picures.

  • Mark in Shiga | May 10, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    Love the late ’90s Reds jerseys. Gray jerseys look good when there’s plenty of color to offset it, like the pinstripes, big thick numbers, and red sleeves like the Reds used. And having the numbers on the player’s right is a little different when you’ve got a team name across the front, but it’s standard when the team initial or logo is over the heart. If the Yankees, Cubs, or Tigers were to add numbers to the front, they would be on the player’s right breast, just a few inches above where the Reds had them (and in the same spot that the Reds put them back in the ’50s when they had really cool vest jerseys.

    I just wish they hadn’t dumped the white hats at home. Supposedly the team played badly in them, but those looked great.

  • Jeff | May 10, 2007 at 9:37 am |

    And in some upsetting news, after posting how Billy Butler of the Royals wore the cuffed pants and stirrups…he comes out last night in pajama pants.

  • Joe Drennan | May 10, 2007 at 9:38 am |

    So tomorrow at Nye’s Paul> Wish I could be there as we’d have tons to chat about. I’ll unfortunatly be an hour north of there at home, probably moring my 7 acre lawn. I’m still trying to master mowing it in intricate patterns like a MLB baseball field.

  • sully | May 10, 2007 at 9:38 am |

    Speaking of Derek Fisher…when he came out onto the court, wasn’t he wearing their road warmup jacket instead of the white home jacket that everyone on the bench was wearing?

  • Robert | May 10, 2007 at 9:42 am |

    I can’t believe that it has already been ten years since Deion Sanders’ Sleevegate. When it happened, I totally went off on Sanders for making the Reds look like a bunch of goobs when they went along with his sleeve-trimming. My wife, as always, responded with merely a roll of the eyes. Oh well.

    It should be noted that Deion Sanders’ alleged Jackie Robinson tribute also included wearing seriously baggy pants and hiking the legs. The pants were clownlike in their bagginess, proving again that there can be too much of a good thing.

  • Teebz | May 10, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”84149″]So tomorrow at Nye’s Paul> Wish I could be there as we’d have tons to chat about. I’ll unfortunatly be an hour north of there at home, probably moring my 7 acre lawn. I’m still trying to master mowing it in intricate patterns like a MLB baseball field.[/quote]

    As for me, I am 50/50 on going at this point. But I am striving to make changes so that it becomes a “fer-sher” thing.

  • Ian K | May 10, 2007 at 9:53 am |

    And speaking of socks, check out the Highland Park girls’ golf team at the Texas State Tournament,

    The team names for Highland Park HS are the Scots and the Lady Scots. A lot of their designs incorporate Scottish imagery, like the argyle pattern.

  • Beefalo | May 10, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    Every time I see that The Players Championship has changed itself into “The Players”, all I can think about is this.

  • Anthony Verna | May 10, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    I like the change to the Player’s logo. It’s much more graceful and simplistic. (And trust me, I’ve seen my fair share of gaudy logos in my short time.)

  • Ryan B. | May 10, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    Probably goes without saying, and might have been touched on earlier, but as far as a reason why the Reds’ road uniforms were designed with the numbers on the right side instead of the left…guess they just decided to keep the numbering consistent with the home uniform, which obviously had the numbers also on the right side.

    Wait a minute…uniform number consistency…never mind.

  • Andrew | May 10, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”84144″]Paul, or anyone else, notice that Matt Murton of the Cubs switched from high pants to low pants DURING the game. Len and Bob (TV guys) were talking about it and said they couldn’t remember a time when a player did that during a game…I can’t find Picures.[/quote]

    I also noticed it! Len and Bob talked about the high pants specifically during his first at-bat. Sorry, no pics though… :(

  • B.G. | May 10, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”84143″]I LOVED the Reds uni’s in 1997. As wierd as they were, I just really thought they were cool. They reminded me of the mid 60’s O’s jersey’s that I love so much.[/quote]
    The stirrups are even better!!!

  • Robert | May 10, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”84159″][quote comment=”84143″]I LOVED the Reds uni’s in 1997. As wierd as they were, I just really thought they were cool. They reminded me of the mid 60’s O’s jersey’s that I love so much.[/quote]
    The stirrups are even better!!![/quote]

    I do so wish that the Reds would bring back their 1950s stirrups. There were very sharp.

  • Brandon | May 10, 2007 at 10:15 am |

    I’m a huge fan of those mid 90’s Reds jerseys as well. They look clean and classy, and their home cap was WHITE. Nobody has a white cap anymore, something Cincy could of had just for themselves.

  • Greg | May 10, 2007 at 10:16 am |

    Speaking of the Reds, Edwin Encarnacion went high-cuffed last night vs. the Astros. He has been in a slump all season and this may have been a way of changing his luck. The sock-gods were not smiling on Edwin though. He had 2 errors in the field that ended up costing the Reds the game. I doubt we will see the Red socks again.

  • Kyle O from VA | May 10, 2007 at 10:31 am |

    There’s an article about the Buffalo Sabres recent merchandising success here . It says Buffalo is near the top with Detroit (and likely ahead of the Wings) in merchandise sales, that the sale of Sabres gear has gone up 900% since last year, and that Buffalo has 6 of the 7 most popular jerseys.

    I have mixed feelings. Buffalo is a likable sports town, and I really like the throwback sweater and the return to traditional colors . Plus they’re obviously having a lot of success this year. But why on earth people want to buy this – with the weird sleeves and yellow buffaslug logo – is beyond me.

  • Kerry | May 10, 2007 at 10:31 am |

    Apparently, not everyone in Tampa got the memo on the NEW PRACTICE JERSEYS.

    And why can’t the Vikings just use THESE JERSEYS???

  • Kerry | May 10, 2007 at 10:35 am |

    OK, this “comment eating” is getting out of hand. My post had 2 links in it…both to pictures that I uploaded to TinyPic.com (since I’m at work at that’s the only thing that works for me) and my post gets eaten by the Spam blocker!

    What gives?!

  • Kyle O from VA | May 10, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    For some reason my last post attempt didn’t work. Here’s try #2:

    There’s an article about the Buffalo Sabres recent merchandising success here . It says Buffalo is near the top with Detroit (and likely ahead of the Wings) in merchandise sales, that the sale of Sabres gear has gone up 900% since last year, and that Buffalo has 6 of the 7 most popular jerseys.

    I have mixed feelings. Buffalo is a likable sports town, and I really like the throwback sweater and the return to traditional colors . Plus they’re obviously having a lot of success this year. But why on earth people want to buy this – with the weird sleeves and yellow buffaslug logo – is beyond me.

  • Carl Greenfeld | May 10, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    As a new reader of uni watch, I have a question. Does anyone know what the history of stirrups are? They are very cool, no doubt, but they do not appear to have much practical use or value.

  • Alan | May 10, 2007 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment=”84145″]Love the late ’90s Reds jerseys. Gray jerseys look good when there’s plenty of color to offset it, like the pinstripes, big thick numbers, and red sleeves like the Reds used. And having the numbers on the player’s right is a little different when you’ve got a team name across the front, but it’s standard when the team initial or logo is over the heart. If the Yankees, Cubs, or Tigers were to add numbers to the front, they would be on the player’s right breast, just a few inches above where the Reds had them (and in the same spot that the Reds put them back in the ’50s when they had really cool vest jerseys.

    I just wish they hadn’t dumped the white hats at home. Supposedly the team played badly in them, but those looked great.[/quote]

    Love that uni..Mr. Redleg on it, also the team name Redlegs because they didnt want to be called Reds or they would be thought of as communists.

  • Teebz | May 10, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”84165″]There’s an article about the Buffalo Sabres recent merchandising success here . It says Buffalo is near the top with Detroit (and likely ahead of the Wings) in merchandise sales, that the sale of Sabres gear has gone up 900% since last year, and that Buffalo has 6 of the 7 most popular jerseys.

    I have mixed feelings. Buffalo is a likable sports town, and I really like the throwback sweater and the return to traditional colors . Plus they’re obviously having a lot of success this year. But why on earth people want to buy this – with the weird sleeves and yellow buffaslug logo – is beyond me.[/quote]

    It’s not that hard to increase your sales by 900% when you have a great team and a new logo and jersey. People want to ride the bandwagon and associate with a winner.

  • Kyle O from VA | May 10, 2007 at 10:46 am |

    Eek, sorry folks for the multiple posts. I swear Kerry’s second post in #28 used to be #26, then current posts #26,27,29 inserted themselves into the comments later. Weird.

  • Kerry | May 10, 2007 at 10:50 am |

    [quote comment=”84174″]Eek, sorry folks for the multiple posts. I swear Kerry’s second post in #28 used to be #26, then current posts #26,27,29 inserted themselves into the comments later. Weird.[/quote]
    You’re more than likely right. It seems like any post with multiple links is taking longer to get through the Spam filters.

  • todd krevanchi | May 10, 2007 at 10:51 am |

    in last nights game 2 of the western semis, i noticed that andris biedrins had on a wristband with his number on it. now that is nothing new… to any sport. usually numbered wristbands are in a plain block font. however, the numeral on the wristband was in the appropriate golden state typography… with outlining.
    http://farm1.static....

  • al | May 10, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    After shaving his head the day before, David Wright showed some leg yesterday … http://sports.yahoo....

    BTW, with the shaved head, Billy Wagner had the best response to his cut being ugly: “Yeah, but I’m rich.”

  • ThresherK | May 10, 2007 at 10:58 am |

    I was watching Chelsea and Arsenal this week. They wear red and blue, respectively, so each got their own main uniform. But when Arsenal and Liverpool, both red, play, the visitor has to go with the alternate.

    It made me wonder: Is the EPL team uniform scheme all written down somewhere, saying certain teams with similar kits can/can’t wear them together? Or do visitors have to bring the alternate and leave it up to the referee’s whim? And what happens when a team changes uniform styles or colors?

    Seriously, LEMON and green?

    Wow. Sounds like the old Tampa Bay Rowdies, the answer to the question: Whose lemon-and-lime looks normal next to Oregon? (Gotta love the socks!)

  • Forrest | May 10, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    Hey, that new Players Championship logo is pretty nice. Don’t know why I like it. I just do.

  • baude | May 10, 2007 at 11:04 am |

    The number on the left being the standard is because team wordmarks generally go from bottom right ot top left, and that leaves the bottom left as the appropriate place for a number. Most wordmarks, if not symmetric, would be oriented similarly. Since the reds had arched lettering that was symmetric, left or right made little aesthetic difference in my opinion.

    having some players with it on the right, and some with it on the left, now there is no excuse for that.

  • Mark in Cincy | May 10, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”84162″]Speaking of the Reds, Edwin Encarnacion went high-cuffed last night vs. the Astros. He has been in a slump all season and this may have been a way of changing his luck. The sock-gods were not smiling on Edwin though. He had 2 errors in the field that ended up costing the Reds the game. I doubt we will see the Red socks again.[/quote]
    Looks like Encarnacion will be rockin’ the high socks in Louisville.

  • Perry | May 10, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    Most amazing fact in today’s post: Jered Weaver has a Wikipedia page.

    I’m kind of a casual NBA watcher so I hadn’t paid much attention to the Warriors’ unis. After last night, I have to say, orange might look good with navy, and yellow might look good with navy, but orange and yellow do not belong on the same uniform.

  • Deron | May 10, 2007 at 11:10 am |

    Since I have trouble linking things I won’t even try, but the track pic in todays blog is clearly not of a sprinter, but of a distance runner. All sprint races and relays are run with every runner staying in their own lane with the exception of the 4×400 meter relay. In that pic: no baton = not a relay, two other girls also in lane 1 = not a sprint.

    uni relevent point 1: I agree, love the socks.

    uni relevent point 2: how many schools go nameless and/or logoless on their unis. The league I coach in has 2 of 17 schools and it just looks odd.

  • todd krevanchi | May 10, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    who is this man on the right?
    and how does he get to where 39 on a dodgers uni?
    http://www.ladabc.co...
    the only thing i could think of is that its a fantasy camp, but wouldnt their same jersey protocol apply here too?

  • Steve M | May 10, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    Last time Adrian Peterson was wearing so much purple was when he was being manhandled by TCU.

  • Paul Lukas | May 10, 2007 at 11:22 am |

    My repeated apologies for the occasional “eaten” posts. It’s our spam filter — sometimes it gets too aggressive. The good news is that any filtered post can be recovered and restored, and I’m trying to do that whenever possible. But I realize how annoying it can for you.

    As you’ll recall, we used to have a security code, and many of you complained that you lost your posts when you forgot to enter the code. Now there’s no code, but the filter sometimes casts too wide a net. Bottom line: There’s no perfect system, and occasionally there will be a problem — and sometimes that problem may involve you. If you could see the hundreds of genuine spams that the filter catches every day, you’d agree that it’s worth it.

    Thanks, as always, for your patience. And always feel free to let me know if you one of your posts has disappeared, so I can go recover it for you.

  • Joe | May 10, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”84170″]As a new reader of uni watch, I have a question. Does anyone know what the history of stirrups are? They are very cool, no doubt, but they do not appear to have much practical use or value.[/quote]

    Check it out

  • Paul Lukas | May 10, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”84195″][quote comment=”84170″]As a new reader of uni watch, I have a question. Does anyone know what the history of stirrups are? They are very cool, no doubt, but they do not appear to have much practical use or value.[/quote]

    Check it out[/quote]

    That entry ain’t so hot. Naturally, I prefer my own take on the subject. Look here and here.

  • Perry | May 10, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”84170″]As a new reader of uni watch, I have a question. Does anyone know what the history of stirrups are? They are very cool, no doubt, but they do not appear to have much practical use or value.[/quote]

    Have a look at this old Uni-Watch article.

    I’ve always been a little dubious about the “dye poisoning” explanation for “sanitary” socks, though. Is there any documentation of this reason for cotton undersocks? As colored wool socks would be hard to wash properly without damaging them, wouldn’t it make sense to wear some clean white cotton socks (that can be washed in hot water & bleach so they are sanitary) underneath? I would think avoiding athlete’s foot and other infections associated with wearing sweaty, grungy wool stockings would be a more likely explanation for the existence of “sanitaries” under baseball stirrups.

  • Perry | May 10, 2007 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”84170″]As a new reader of uni watch, I have a question. Does anyone know what the history of stirrups are? They are very cool, no doubt, but they do not appear to have much practical use or value.[/quote]

    I’m a fairly new reader too, but from what I recall reading somewhere: In the early 20th century the dyes used in colored socks were somehow a source of infection when players sustained spike wounds, a not-uncommon occurrance. And in the pre-antibiotic era, these infections could be dangerous. The solution: wear white “sanitary” socks next to the skin, with the colored sock over it. But wearing two pairs of socks on the feet was uncomfortable. Stirrups solved the problem — you could wear the sanitary socks next to your skin, wear just one layer on your feet, and still display the team color on your legs. So the answer is, nowadays they have no practical value, they’re just a wonderful, aesthetically pleasing anachronism.

  • joe | May 10, 2007 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”84144″]Paul, or anyone else, notice that Matt Murton of the Cubs switched from high pants to low pants DURING the game. Len and Bob (TV guys) were talking about it and said they couldn’t remember a time when a player did that during a game…I can’t find Picures.[/quote]

    He actually stated with low, struck out, went to high, struck out, then went back to low.

  • Paul Lukas | May 10, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    I have a book review up on the left side of today’s Page 2 index page.

  • Justin | May 10, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    [quote comment=”84191″]who is this man on the right?
    and how does he get to where 39 on a dodgers uni?
    http://www.ladabc.co...
    the only thing i could think of is that its a fantasy camp, but wouldnt their same jersey protocol apply here too?[/quote]

    If you check the website you got that picture from (www.ladabc.com), you will see it is the Dodgers Adult Baseball Camp. Looking at their “rosters”, it seems they have no restrictions on jersey numbers. It’s not like they are actually baseball players, so I don’t see any problem with it. Its pretty much the same as selling a jersey with a retired number, which happens all the time.

  • Ian K | May 10, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”84192″]Last time Adrian Peterson was wearing so much purple was when he was being manhandled by TCU.[/quote]

    17-10 baby! Unranked beating the #7 team in the nation. Zing!

    I’ll let Matthew S. chime in on what happened to my TCU Horned Frogs the following Saturday that year since he never fails to mention it.

  • jeag | May 10, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    [quote comment=”84161″]I’m a huge fan of those mid 90’s Reds jerseys as well. They look clean and classy, and their home cap was WHITE. Nobody has a white cap anymore, something Cincy could of had just for themselves.[/quote]

    Perfect example of what ditching the black can do for you. The Reds’ new unis are an improvement, but the ’97 unis are much better. I propose a league-wide return to the Jackie-length sleeves.

    I don’t like white caps, though, ever. These are slightly better than the Mets’ Good Humor caps of the same era. but white caps with colored brims always look goofy. Well, except for this one.

  • Nolan | May 10, 2007 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”84133″]Anybody know what the logo was on the t-shirt Derek Fisher was wearing when TNT showed him walking to the locker room.
    [/quote]
    Here is a screen cap of the Shirt in Question

    [quote comment=”84150″]Speaking of Derek Fisher…when he came out onto the court, wasn’t he wearing their road warmup jacket instead of the white home jacket that everyone on the bench was wearing?[/quote]

    Didn’t notice that, but could he have been wearing a shooting shirt?

  • Philly Bill | May 10, 2007 at 12:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”84155″]Every time I see that The Players Championship has changed itself into “The Players”, all I can think about is this. [/quote]

    “Hey, who loves ya, baby?”

  • Philly Bill | May 10, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”84206″][quote comment=”84133″]Anybody know what the logo was on the t-shirt Derek Fisher was wearing when TNT showed him walking to the locker room.
    [/quote]
    Here is a screen cap of the Shirt in Question

    [quote comment=”84150″]Speaking of Derek Fisher…when he came out onto the court, wasn’t he wearing their road warmup jacket instead of the white home jacket that everyone on the bench was wearing?[/quote]

    Didn’t notice that, but could he have been wearing a shooting shirt?[/quote]

    Warmup jacket, shooting shirt… they all remind me of a sports bra.

    Socks have shown up in the Page 2 cartoon for a second straight day… And this one is actually kind of funny!

  • Ryan B. | May 10, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”84180″]…Is the EPL team uniform scheme all written down somewhere, saying certain teams with similar kits can/can’t wear them together? Or do visitors have to bring the alternate and leave it up to the referee’s whim?[/quote]

    This is only a highly educated guess, because I can’t base my response on anything resembling fact. I would assume that most EPL clubs can determine which kit to wear at away games (like the Liverpool-Arsenal example) if the club they’re playing has a kit the same basic color as theirs. I would also imagine that most EPL teams probably travel with two kits in case there would be a dispute or an unexpected choice of what to wear by the home club. I would imagine that the referee would make a determination as to whether or not the away club would have to change (that is how it works in union rugby, at least).

  • Ryan B. | May 10, 2007 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”84209″][quote comment=”84180″]…Is the EPL team uniform scheme all written down somewhere, saying certain teams with similar kits can/can’t wear them together? Or do visitors have to bring the alternate and leave it up to the referee’s whim?[/quote]

    AND…with the membership of the EPL changing between each season due to relegations and promotions to and from the Championship, that written “color scheme clash” would be quite the dynamic document.[/quote]

  • Ryan B. | May 10, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    I can see where a judgment call would have to be made if it involved a club (or clubs) who wear a striped kit jersey. Like, when Reading plays at Chelsea, do they get to wear their “home” kits? (Chelsea’s home kit is this; here is the kit for Reading.) Surely not.

    My suspicion was verified by this clip of their Boxing Day match.

    Of course that might be a bad example…but I heard a rumor that Reading was supposed to always be allowed to wear their home kits because they’re a “royal” club. Anyone know anything about this?

  • Richard | May 10, 2007 at 12:43 pm |

    Back on the subject of uniform number placement, I noticed something very odd in a Sports Illustrated survey I took today. Check out the image that was at the top, and look at the player on the right. It’s obviously Albert Pujols, but it’s also obviously reversed. He’s batting lefthanded and “Cardinals” is backwards on the jersey. Yet someone felt the need to fix his uniform number so it wasn’t backwards, and in doing so stuck it on the wrong side a la the Reds ’90s unis.
    Did they think we wouldn’t notice that the rest of the photo was reversed if the number was straightened out or something?

  • patrick | May 10, 2007 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”84188″]Since I have trouble linking things I won’t even try, but the track pic in todays blog is clearly not of a sprinter, but of a distance runner. All sprint races and relays are run with every runner staying in their own lane with the exception of the 4×400 meter relay. In that pic: no baton = not a relay, two other girls also in lane 1 = not a sprint.

    uni relevent point 1: I agree, love the socks.

    uni relevent point 2: how many schools go nameless and/or logoless on their unis. The league I coach in has 2 of 17 schools and it just looks odd.[/quote]

    This is true for outdoor track only (liek in the pic). In indoor track, the one per lane rule does not apply.

  • patrick | May 10, 2007 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”84209″][quote comment=”84180″]…Is the EPL team uniform scheme all written down somewhere, saying certain teams with similar kits can/can’t wear them together? Or do visitors have to bring the alternate and leave it up to the referee’s whim?[/quote]

    This is only a highly educated guess, because I can’t base my response on anything resembling fact. I would assume that most EPL clubs can determine which kit to wear at away games (like the Liverpool-Arsenal example) if the club they’re playing has a kit the same basic color as theirs. I would also imagine that most EPL teams probably travel with two kits in case there would be a dispute or an unexpected choice of what to wear by the home club. I would imagine that the referee would make a determination as to whether or not the away club would have to change (that is how it works in union rugby, at least).[/quote]

    Thats why temas in the EPL have some of thse HIDEOUS third jerseys. They ahve a home, away, and an alt for color conflicts.

  • Andy from KC | May 10, 2007 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”84207″][quote comment=”84155″]Every time I see that The Players Championship has changed itself into “The Players”, all I can think about is this. [/quote]

    “Hey, who loves ya, baby?”[/quote]

    I was a little kid when those commercials aired, and of course I didn’t watch Kojak, so I didn’t know who Telly Savalas was. I always kept waiting for him to eat a turnbuckle or something.

  • Kenny | May 10, 2007 at 12:58 pm |

    post monster attacks again

  • Bmuck | May 10, 2007 at 1:35 pm |

    Paul- With all of the stirrups talk, can you tell me what exactly Juan Marichal is wearing(and look at his shoes without laces. They look like rubber) here?

  • Robert | May 10, 2007 at 1:36 pm |

    There is one issue involving stirrups that I do not recall Paul addressing: The too-thin stirrup where it enters the shoe.

    From the ’60s through the ’80s, there were many instances wherein the width of the stirrup would continue to narrow as it moved down the leg, until it was a mere sliver by the time it entered the shoe.

    http://orioles.aucti...

    It is almost as if the stirrup has begun to curl at the edges, and this always looked very sloppy to me.

    The phenomenon can be found in both the Golden Age style of stirrup (see the photo above) and the Narrow-Stirrup Era.

    http://orioles.aucti...

  • Jeff | May 10, 2007 at 1:40 pm |

    I don’t think the super short sleeves of the 90’s Reds looks so bad, I kinda like them (minus the patches on the shoulders of course). Or I at least like them until every team adopts them (like the dreaded alternate vests).

    One vest I especially loathe is my Tribe’s vest alternate uni. Which in accordance with Paul’s post today, also has the numbers on the right (wrong) side. I know it has precedent from some of the 60’s Indians unis, seen here, sorta here (yes, that’s an Indians uni – dig the socks), and here (it’s real easy to see the zipper on this one), but it was ugly then too.

    Maybe the numbers on the reverse side is an Ohio thing…

  • Johnny O | May 10, 2007 at 1:55 pm |

    Ian Poulter did not disappoint again at “The Players” today. He has pink pants matching his pink shoes. No pics yet, but I am sure I will get them tonight.

  • Jim | May 10, 2007 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”84229″]Paul- With all of the stirrups talk, can you tell me what exactly Juan Marichal is wearing(and look at his shoes without laces. They look like rubber) here?[/quote]

    It doesn’t just look like the shoes … check out the stirrup on his right leg. It appears to be made of the same material!

  • Perry | May 10, 2007 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”84236″][quote comment=”84229″]Paul- With all of the stirrups talk, can you tell me what exactly Juan Marichal is wearing(and look at his shoes without laces. They look like rubber) here?[/quote]

    It doesn’t just look like the shoes … check out the stirrup on his right leg. It appears to be made of the same material![/quote]

    I think they’re just black laces. Interesting date on the mag – a couple of weeks before the infamous Roseboro bat-conking.

  • Lincoln | May 10, 2007 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”84200″][quote comment=”84144″]Paul, or anyone else, notice that Matt Murton of the Cubs switched from high pants to low pants DURING the game. Len and Bob (TV guys) were talking about it and said they couldn’t remember a time when a player did that during a game…I can’t find Picures.[/quote]

    He actually stated with low, struck out, went to high, struck out, then went back to low.[/quote]

    Not true, I was at the game and Murton was wearing his high socks in the field in the second innning, his first at bat was in the bottom of the second. After that, around the 3rd or 4th, he switched back to usual low pants appearance. I have no pictures to prove it though.

  • Anthony Verna | May 10, 2007 at 2:24 pm |

    I wish Ian Poulter had a line of suits. Imagine going into court with a genuine Poulter suit!

  • Robert | May 10, 2007 at 2:37 pm |

    In NASCAR news, it looks like Dale Jr. will be driving a car with a different number next season. He is leaving DEI, and No. 8 will probably remain with them.

    The sale of merchandise features Junior’s new number will no doubt be through the roof in 2008. Major League and NFL teams can only dream of enjoying such a sales spike when they change uniforms.

  • Vincent A. Cipollone | May 10, 2007 at 2:37 pm |

    Why is Michael Griffin wearing Vince Young’s practice jersey? I don’t see any reason for him to wear #10. He didn’t go tenth in the draft and 10 isn’t allowed for safeties to wear.

  • jeff in detroit | May 10, 2007 at 2:40 pm |

    late last night i mentioned that jose mesa of the tigers switched from #94 to #50. i couldn’t find anywhere that mentioned it. does anyone know of the reason?

  • Jordan | May 10, 2007 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”84250″]Why is Michael Griffin wearing Vince Young’s practice jersey? I don’t see any reason for him to wear #10. He didn’t go tenth in the draft and 10 isn’t allowed for safeties to wear.[/quote]

    we talkin bout practice??

  • Ryan Petrynka | May 10, 2007 at 2:42 pm |

    Over in the NASCAR world, Dale Earnhardt, Jr., NASCAR’s most popular driver by far is leaving his current team at the end of the season because of a contract dispute. Because NASCAR owns and issues car numbers to the teams and not the drivers or teams, Dale Jr. could find himself with a new sponsor (highly unlikely) and/or a new car number (very likely). This would leave millions of fans with outdated merchandise, like:
    this, this, and this. I wouldn’t even consider this stuff to be collectors’ items because there’s so much Dale Jr. merchandise flying around.

  • Ryan Petrynka | May 10, 2007 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”84250″]Why is Michael Griffin wearing Vince Young’s practice jersey? I don’t see any reason for him to wear #10. He didn’t go tenth in the draft and 10 isn’t allowed for safeties to wear.[/quote]

    Both are Texas alumni and these minicamps are just for new draftees and position backups. Griffin probably asked for that jersey just for the minicamp and the Titans gave it to him.

  • LT | May 10, 2007 at 2:47 pm |

    Shoot. I thought I was on to something with the left vs. right numbers and the very last photo of a batter, the “very short sleeves” one of #29 messed it up. If you notice, the numbers are alligned to face out towards the TV cameras on both left and right handed batters. They correspond with the ear flaps on the batting helmets. That doesn’t fly only with the last one. I’m not a Reds fan. Maybe #29 was a switch hitter who goes primarily from the left but is going righty in that particular photo?

  • diz | May 10, 2007 at 2:47 pm |

    Re: The Premiership and colour choices:

    Apparently it’s down to the Official Match Delegate to ensure there’s no clash of kits. Traditionally the referee has the final say though, but I’m not sure what say they would have on the matter, I’d imagine they’d discuss the matter since the referee and assistants need to be able to distinguish which side touched the ball last and so on.

    The home team pretty much ALWAYS gets first choice though, and in finals and other matches at neutral venues there’s a coin toss to decide the “home” side. The only concrete evidence I can find of this just now is off the FA Cup rules (10 here, but is 14 on the PDF).

    Multicoloured shirts are pretty much case-by-case basis. I’ve seen the Tyne & Wear derby played both with and without the need for change strips

  • Christopher | May 10, 2007 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”84255″]Over in the NASCAR world, Dale Earnhardt, Jr., NASCAR’s most popular driver by far is leaving his current team at the end of the season because of a contract dispute. Because NASCAR owns and issues car numbers to the teams and not the drivers or teams, Dale Jr. could find himself with a new sponsor (highly unlikely) and/or a new car number (very likely). This would leave millions of fans with outdated merchandise, like:
    this, this, and this. I wouldn’t even consider this stuff to be collectors’ items because there’s so much Dale Jr. merchandise flying around.[/quote]

    Realize how much money this alone will generate for NASCAR and Dale, Jr. Everyone is going to go out and replace all of their “8” merchandise. Millions of dollars that may not have been spent otherwise.

  • Robert | May 10, 2007 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”84255″]Over in the NASCAR world, Dale Earnhardt, Jr., NASCAR’s most popular driver by far is leaving his current team at the end of the season because of a contract dispute. Because NASCAR owns and issues car numbers to the teams and not the drivers or teams, Dale Jr. could find himself with a new sponsor (highly unlikely) and/or a new car number (very likely). This would leave millions of fans with outdated merchandise, like:
    this, this, and this. I wouldn’t even consider this stuff to be collectors’ items because there’s so much Dale Jr. merchandise flying around.[/quote]

    I tried to make a similar post, but it was eaten. The Dale Jr. fans will soon be buying gazillions of dollars worth of new merch. The nice thing is that it will not be because of some contrived changed in number or color scheme like we see in the NFL, MLB and NBA.

  • Christopher | May 10, 2007 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”84201″]I have a book review up on the left side of today’s Page 2 index page.[/quote]

    Seemed so interesting that I don’t want to read the article on it, I just want to get the book!

  • Big O | May 10, 2007 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”84255″]Over in the NASCAR world, Dale Earnhardt, Jr., NASCAR’s most popular driver by far is leaving his current team at the end of the season because of a contract dispute. Because NASCAR owns and issues car numbers to the teams and not the drivers or teams, Dale Jr. could find himself with a new sponsor (highly unlikely) and/or a new car number (very likely). This would leave millions of fans with outdated merchandise, like:
    this, this, and this. I wouldn’t even consider this stuff to be collectors’ items because there’s so much Dale Jr. merchandise flying around.[/quote]

    Bud will follow Jr. were ever he may land. If he is real lucky DEI will allow him the use of the number 8. (Highly Unlikely) But the silly season has begun.

  • Sir Jock Strap | May 10, 2007 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”84230″]There is one issue involving stirrups that I do not recall Paul addressing: The too-thin stirrup where it enters the shoe.

    From the ’60s through the ’80s, there were many instances wherein the width of the stirrup would continue to narrow as it moved down the leg, until it was a mere sliver by the time it entered the shoe.

    http://orioles.aucti...

    It is almost as if the stirrup has begun to curl at the edges, and this always looked very sloppy to me.

    The phenomenon can be found in both the Golden Age style of stirrup (see the photo above) and the Narrow-Stirrup Era.

    http://orioles.aucti...

    Vida Blue, King of the Skinny Stirrup.

    http://www.autograph...

    http://www.autograph...

    That last picture looks like he was wearing the T-top style stirrup.

  • Jordan | May 10, 2007 at 3:06 pm |

    good pic here of the old red accent on UNC’s basketball jerseys, was supposed to add an intimidation factor to the uniform.

  • Big O | May 10, 2007 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”84267″][quote comment=”84255″]Over in the NASCAR world, Dale Earnhardt, Jr., NASCAR’s most popular driver by far is leaving his current team at the end of the season because of a contract dispute. Because NASCAR owns and issues car numbers to the teams and not the drivers or teams, Dale Jr. could find himself with a new sponsor (highly unlikely) and/or a new car number (very likely). This would leave millions of fans with outdated merchandise, like:
    this, this, and this. I wouldn’t even consider this stuff to be collectors’ items because there’s so much Dale Jr. merchandise flying around.[/quote]

    Realize how much money this alone will generate for NASCAR and Dale, Jr. Everyone is going to go out and replace all of their “8” merchandise. Millions of dollars that may not have been spent otherwise.[/quote]

    Bud will follow Jr. to where ever he lands. If he is lucky DEI will allow him to take the number 8 with him. Or Bud could pay DEI to keep the number8 with their sponsorship. It’s up to the almighty dollar.

    But the Silly Season has begun.

  • Josh | May 10, 2007 at 3:11 pm |

    Did you see those Padres sleeve patches last night? What are they and why are they red?

  • Barney | May 10, 2007 at 3:15 pm |

    During this afternoon’s Braves-Padres game, Chip Caray and Joe Simpson had a stirrup conversation when Jose Cruz, Jr. came to the plate with the traditional stirrup/sanitary look. Simpson commented that he liked the traditional look. Caray wondered if today’s players would even know what they were if they were handed out with uniforms. Finally, Simpson said that he like to see how many of the players would know to put the lower cut of the stirrup in the front.

  • Brendan | May 10, 2007 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”84144″]Paul, or anyone else, notice that Matt Murton of the Cubs switched from high pants to low pants DURING the game. Len and Bob (TV guys) were talking about it and said they couldn’t remember a time when a player did that during a game…I can’t find Picures.[/quote]

    I’ve done that. In high school we had a double-header, and since my pants were a size too small, the elastic cuffs were super tight. It was great for getting them to stay up, but after wearing them for four hours they started to cut off circulation. I played (ok, ok, sat on the bench) most of the second game with the cuffs at mid-shin.

  • Brendan | May 10, 2007 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”84188″]Since I have trouble linking things I won’t even try, but the track pic in todays blog is clearly not of a sprinter, but of a distance runner. All sprint races and relays are run with every runner staying in their own lane with the exception of the 4×400 meter relay. In that pic: no baton = not a relay, two other girls also in lane 1 = not a sprint.

    uni relevent point 1: I agree, love the socks.

    uni relevent point 2: how many schools go nameless and/or logoless on their unis. The league I coach in has 2 of 17 schools and it just looks odd.[/quote]

    In high school track many runners run more than one event.

    Also, check out the girl wearing the black and gold! She’s running for my alma mater.

  • Jordan | May 10, 2007 at 3:28 pm |

    http://photos.tarhee...

    good pic of red accents on UNC’s old basketball jerseys, was supposed to add an intimidation factor to the baby blue uniforms

  • Mike | May 10, 2007 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”84232″]I don’t think the super short sleeves of the 90’s Reds looks so bad, I kinda like them (minus the patches on the shoulders of course). Or I at least like them until every team adopts them (like the dreaded alternate vests).

    One vest I especially loathe is my Tribe’s vest alternate uni. Which in accordance with Paul’s post today, also has the numbers on the right (wrong) side. I know it has precedent from some of the 60’s Indians unis, seen here, sorta here (yes, that’s an Indians uni – dig the socks), and here (it’s real easy to see the zipper on this one), but it was ugly then too.

    Maybe the numbers on the reverse side is an Ohio thing…[/quote]

    The Indians should use the red undershirts with their vests, and bring back that red “C” hat. Would look better than the current version.

    Also, the Reds should bring back that home vest from the mid-90’s with the white pinstripe hats and use it as an alternate (like on Sundays).

  • Mike | May 10, 2007 at 3:35 pm |

    The Indians should use the red undershirts with their vests, and bring back that red “C” hat. Would look better than the current version.

    Also, the Reds should bring back that home vest from the mid-90’s with the white pinstripe hats and use it as an alternate (like on Sundays).

  • Jeff | May 10, 2007 at 3:39 pm |

    When searching for pictures for my previous post (#68) I came across some interesting pics:

    Sam McDowell rocking some thin-striped stirrups.

    Bob Feller wearing the ubiquitous windbreaker under the uniform (a Uni Watch favorite topic -I’m not sure what the shield patch on his sleeve represents)

    Jim Perry with his uni number on his sleeve.

  • Clevo | May 10, 2007 at 3:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”84291″]The Indians should use the red undershirts with their vests, and bring back that red “C” hat. Would look better than the current version.

    Also, the Reds should bring back that home vest from the mid-90’s with the white pinstripe hats and use it as an alternate (like on Sundays).[/quote]

    Unfortunately, they changed their accent color to blue from red in 2002.

    I dont mind the blue socks, but I wish they would bring back their striped stirrups, not that you’d see them on anyone besides Sowers, Byrd, Garko and a handful of others.

    They could get rid of the vest altogether and look like a big league club and that would be even better.

  • Erich | May 10, 2007 at 4:07 pm |

    Sorry… the post above was supposed to read like this..

    It looks to me that the stirrups are just thin and you can see the sanitaries underneath… Hence the “leather” or “rubber” look
    It doesn’t just look like the shoes … check out the stirrup on his right leg. It appears to be made of the same material!

  • Matthew S. | May 10, 2007 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”84204″][quote comment=”84192″]Last time Adrian Peterson was wearing so much purple was when he was being manhandled by TCU.[/quote]

    17-10 baby! Unranked beating the #7 team in the nation. Zing!

    I’ll let Matthew S. chime in on what happened to my TCU Horned Frogs the following Saturday that year since he never fails to mention it.[/quote]

    Indeed I had thought of mentioning my Mustangs beating your Horned Frogs 21-10 the Saturday after the same Frogs beat Oklahoma (with me in the student section of Ford Stadium behind the TCU bench screaming ‘Over-rated’, just one week after TCU fans got to do the same to Oklahoma), but the mention of my name removed all doubt from my mind about mentioning this historic win once again. We graduated a lot of players this spring so I’m not too sure about our choices in Ft. Worth this fall, so I have to enjoy that 21-10 win as much as possible until then.

    Also, Ian K. you forgot to mention that Highland Park High School’s baseball stadium–in going with the Scots team name–is called Scotland Yard.

  • Larry C | May 10, 2007 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”84165″]There’s an article about the Buffalo Sabres recent merchandising success here . It says Buffalo is near the top with Detroit (and likely ahead of the Wings) in merchandise sales, that the sale of Sabres gear has gone up 900% since last year, and that Buffalo has 6 of the 7 most popular jerseys.

    I have mixed feelings. Buffalo is a likable sports town, and I really like the throwback sweater and the return to traditional colors . Plus they’re obviously having a lot of success this year. But why on earth people want to buy this – with the weird sleeves and yellow buffaslug logo – is beyond me.[/quote]

    I’m a Detroit fan, and I don’t mind. Detroit’s been on top for years and years now, and it’s good for NHL fans to be cultivated in other cities.

    However…

    I’d like to hear how a Buffalo uni fan feels about this. Because I have a feeling that this means the team corporate offices will translate this to mean that the “Buffal-Slug” logo make-over was a rousing success.

    Who knows, they might be right. But does that mean that the team’s not going to return to its original logo? How do fans feel that the Slug may be the Buffalo logo may be the organization’s symbol for the long term future?

    That said, good luck Buffalo, and here’s hoping for a Wings-Sabres playoffs.

  • Broker75 | May 10, 2007 at 4:16 pm |

    I prefer the solid looking sock as opposed to the retro Moyer stirrups. Or you can just say that this is how a uniform should be worn

  • Seattle Zach | May 10, 2007 at 4:49 pm |

    MLB has come up with spec logos for their MLB tv Network, set to start in 2009

    http://www.fansatbat...

  • chris | May 10, 2007 at 5:01 pm |

    It’s unlikely that the sprinter is running on an indoor track. If you examine the track itself, there appear to be 8 lanes, which is common for outdoor tracks. Also, it could be an 800 meter run, or a similar mid-distance event. However, the girl in third place in the picture is wearing this spike (https://secure.advan...) which is generally worn by mid to long distance runners.

  • Nolan | May 10, 2007 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”84317″]MLB has come up with spec logos for their MLB tv Network, set to start in 2009

    http://www.fansatbat...
    Why is the second one the only one that doesn’t have …I don’t know what to call it…dimension? It’s a flat logo and the other three show a lighter shade in the blue of the mlb logo that adds some dimension to the logo.

  • =bg= | May 10, 2007 at 5:40 pm |

    I think that #46 is Pete Schourek..I’m wearing one of his undershirt game shirts right now- an old faded Russell Coolmax with a very faded #46 on the neck tag. Used to get into the clubhouse all the time and was allowed to “rummage” thru the old stuff- how great is that!

  • joe | May 10, 2007 at 5:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”84319″]It’s unlikely that the sprinter is running on an indoor track. If you examine the track itself, there appear to be 8 lanes, which is common for outdoor tracks. Also, it could be an 800 meter run, or a similar mid-distance event. However, the girl in third place in the picture is wearing this spike (https://secure.advan...) which is generally worn by mid to long distance runners.[/quote]

    I’d assume its outdoors since the people in the background are using umbrella and raincoatsto keep the rain off of themselves. Either that of that indoor track has a very leaky roof.

  • Stuby | May 10, 2007 at 5:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”84159″][quote comment=”84143″]I LOVED the Reds uni’s in 1997. As wierd as they were, I just really thought they were cool. They reminded me of the mid 60’s O’s jersey’s that I love so much.[/quote]
    The stirrups are even better!!![/quote]
    That Brooks Robinson photo makes me think of the ridiculously short brim of Robinson’s batting helmet, which then makes me think of Yaz’s ridiculously large earhole, which leads right into Yaz’s really thin stirrups. See its all tied together.

  • Stuby | May 10, 2007 at 5:54 pm |
  • Brendan | May 10, 2007 at 5:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”84320″][quote comment=”84317″]MLB has come up with spec logos for their MLB tv Network, set to start in 2009

    http://www.fansatbat...
    Why is the second one the only one that doesn’t have …I don’t know what to call it…dimension? It’s a flat logo and the other three show a lighter shade in the blue of the mlb logo that adds some dimension to the logo.[/quote]

    The second one is clearly the best. The rest look like someone just learned how to use gradient fills in photoshop.

  • Brendan | May 10, 2007 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”84334″][quote comment=”84320″][quote comment=”84317″]MLB has come up with spec logos for their MLB tv Network, set to start in 2009

    http://www.fansatbat...
    Why is the second one the only one that doesn’t have …I don’t know what to call it…dimension? It’s a flat logo and the other three show a lighter shade in the blue of the mlb logo that adds some dimension to the logo.[/quote]

    The second one is clearly the best. The rest look like someone just learned how to use gradient fills in photoshop.[/quote]

    Actually I take that back. The word “NETWORK” looks incredibly Yankees-related. Thay should go with the fourth one but with solid colors.

  • Teebz | May 10, 2007 at 6:09 pm |

    Ok, so my Minny trip is now more 30/70. Apparently, work decided that I should be at work tomorrow since one guy has basically gone AWOL.

    I’m fighting this, but it don’t look good right now, kids.

  • Bmuck | May 10, 2007 at 6:17 pm |

    Post #99-100

    Ok, I can kinda see how it might be a thin stirrup with a sanitary underneath that is causing the look of a rubber type material. But what gives for the shoe? I still haven’t seen anything like it. Apparently Paul isn’t in the house.

  • Natron | May 10, 2007 at 6:19 pm |

    On August 10, the Indians will all wear #14 in tribute fo Larry Doby.

    I think that was batted around during the Jackie Robinson tributes a couple of weeks ago, but it was formally announced today.

  • BA | May 10, 2007 at 6:22 pm |

    I used to check uniwatch from work all the time…until they added it to the list of blocked websites!

    Any smart computer-types have any tips on how to get around that?

  • Frankie | May 10, 2007 at 7:47 pm |

    I was looking through a photo gallery of rookies on SportsIllustrated.com and I came across a picture of the Titan’s first round pick, Michael Griffin, wearing number 10. Kind of weird that he would be wearing Vince Young’s jersey.

  • Frankie | May 10, 2007 at 7:48 pm |

    Michael Griffin

    Sorry, here’s the link from the comment.

  • Kenny | May 10, 2007 at 7:58 pm |

    Mother’s Day ball for the AFL

  • Justin | May 10, 2007 at 9:12 pm |

    I’m not a big hockey fan, but I was reading this little piece on ESPN.com, and saw an interesting quote regarding the Buffalo Sabres:

    “The longer you look at this team — and, yes, its market — the more there is for outsiders to like.

    Uh, well, cough … even the uniforms, which were recently cited as the worst in the league in one unscientific rant by a fellow whose taste has to be considered suspect because he once drove a Pacer, the car that looked like an inverted fishbowl on wheels.”

    ESPN Link

  • Vincent A. Cipollone | May 10, 2007 at 9:29 pm |

    I’m watching Real Salt Lake vs. Colorado Rapids and the keeper for Real Salt Lake wears 6, an unorthodox number for a keeper. What’s even more puzzling is that Salt Lake has no #12, a more common number for a keeper when #1 is taken. You can see the roster here.

  • Vincent A. Cipollone | May 10, 2007 at 9:29 pm |

    Spam Blocker ate my post about Nick Rimando

  • Justin | May 10, 2007 at 9:35 pm |

    grr spam blocker

  • Scott | May 10, 2007 at 9:53 pm |

    Does anyone know if the Seahawks are taking right green stripe out of their unis? In this pic you can see that it’s just that navy blue/sea green color, which I think is much better without that loud green. I also like the white laces on Engram’s shoes, like USC wears.

  • =bg= | May 10, 2007 at 10:30 pm |

    those practice unis are always approximations of the game uniforms, never exact copies I believe.

  • Joe in Louisville | May 10, 2007 at 10:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”84185″][quote comment=”84162″]Speaking of the Reds, Edwin Encarnacion went high-cuffed last night vs. the Astros. He has been in a slump all season and this may have been a way of changing his luck. The sock-gods were not smiling on Edwin though. He had 2 errors in the field that ended up costing the Reds the game. I doubt we will see the Red socks again.[/quote]
    Looks like Encarnacion will be rockin’ the high socks in Louisville.[/quote]

    He’ll have to. High socks are mandatory with the home uniforms.

  • Matt from the 'Ville | May 10, 2007 at 11:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”84401″][quote comment=”84185″][quote comment=”84162″]Speaking of the Reds, Edwin Encarnacion went high-cuffed last night vs. the Astros. He has been in a slump all season and this may have been a way of changing his luck. The sock-gods were not smiling on Edwin though. He had 2 errors in the field that ended up costing the Reds the game. I doubt we will see the Red socks again.[/quote]
    Looks like Encarnacion will be rockin’ the high socks in Louisville.[/quote]

    He’ll have to. High socks are mandatory with the home uniforms.[/quote]

    Joe in Louisville are you sure that they are mandatory I thought I saw a couple player wearing there pants long on opening day. Any way Louisville’s Jerseys are ugly with there colors being purple & black. Sry Minna not a fan of the black jerseys not even on my beloved Louisville Cardinals.

  • Mike Engle | May 11, 2007 at 12:01 am |

    [quote comment=”84395″]those practice unis are always approximations of the game uniforms, never exact copies I believe.[/quote]
    For instance, notice the lack of secondary color outlines on this Philadelphia Eagles practice jersey. Now, compare and contrast with the white game jersey.

  • Kyle O from VA | May 11, 2007 at 12:46 am |

    A couple of people have linked to the SI.com photo gallery of NFL rookie camps. The thing that jumps out to me is how there is so much variation on how teams tape a player’s name to the front of their helmet. Some teams have the name printed on the tape , some teams just write it in with a Sharpie , and some teams have no tape at all.

    Here’s the tally from the SI pics:
    Printed: Lions, ‘Skins, Vikings
    Written: ‘Niners, Bears, Colts
    No tape: Raiders, Browns, Bucs, Bengals, Titans

    The Redskins appear to use their team font (I don’t think it’s hand-written). The Vikes tape is so thin that the letters are small and hard to read, which defeats the purpose of using tape for easy identification purposes, no?

    Those pics reminded me of the first week of football practice in peewee league and high school. Get your pads, slap a piece of white athletic tape on your helmet, grab a black marker and write your name. The Sharpie smell when you sign your helmet means the season has started, and taking the tape off means you’ve earned a spot on the team after going through two-a-days.

  • Minna H. | May 11, 2007 at 12:50 am |

    [quote comment=”84403″][quote comment=”84401″][quote comment=”84185″][quote comment=”84162″]Speaking of the Reds, Edwin Encarnacion went high-cuffed last night vs. the Astros. He has been in a slump all season and this may have been a way of changing his luck. The sock-gods were not smiling on Edwin though. He had 2 errors in the field that ended up costing the Reds the game. I doubt we will see the Red socks again.[/quote]
    Looks like Encarnacion will be rockin’ the high socks in Louisville.[/quote]

    He’ll have to. High socks are mandatory with the home uniforms.[/quote]

    Joe in Louisville are you sure that they are mandatory I thought I saw a couple player wearing there pants long on opening day. Any way Louisville’s Jerseys are ugly with there colors being purple & black. Sry Minna not a fan of the black jerseys not even on my beloved Louisville Cardinals.[/quote]

    Matt from the ‘Ville, how can you not like this???

    Actually, I don’t like the red splotches, and I definitely don’t like the white helmets or shoes. I do like the shade of black and the socks, but overall, it could be so much better.

    Teebz, ya gotta make it! I’m sending you all the ‘get out of work’ mojo I can spare.

    Joe D., I guess I wasted all my wiles for nothing. However, I think it’s more important for you to be with your wife right now. Wishing you the best with her diagnosis. Hopefully, there will be another TCUWP in the future, and you will be able to make it.

    Who is going? Natron? Anna? Or is it just going to be Paul and me tossing back the drinks and eating the meats? I know it’s late, so I’ll ask again tomorrow.

  • Minna H. | May 11, 2007 at 12:57 am |

    Goddamn it. Ok. Forget trying to quote Matt from the ‘Ville.

    Fourth try.

    Matt from the ‘Ville, how can you not like this?

    Actually, I don’t like the red splotches, and I definitely don’t like the white helmets or shoes. I do like the shade of black and the socks, but overall, it could be so much better. I saw the socks and shoes in another pic, but apparently, I can’t poss that pic so you’ll just have to imagine.

    Teebz, ya gotta make it! I’m sending you all the ‘get out of work’ mojo I can spare.

    Joe D., I guess I wasted all my wiles for nothing. However, I think it’s more important for you to be with your wife right now. Wishing you the best with her diagnosis. Hopefully, there will be another TCUWP in the future, and you will be able to make it.

    Who is going? Natron? Anna? Or is it just going to be Paul and me tossing back the drinks and eating the meats? I know it’s late, so I’ll ask again tomorrow.

  • Minna H. | May 11, 2007 at 1:00 am |

    I also can’t type. Let me see if I can post the other Louisville pic.

    let’s give it a whirl. Ok, the socks are white, now black. I don’t like that, either.

  • Kyle O from VA | May 11, 2007 at 1:02 am |

    [quote comment=”84412″][quote comment=”84395″]those practice unis are always approximations of the game uniforms, never exact copies I believe.[/quote]
    For instance, notice the lack of secondary color outlines on this Philadelphia Eagles practice jersey. Now, compare and contrast with the white game jersey.[/quote]

    This practice jersey talk makes me think of how I’m amazed that the NFL hasn’t marketed practice jerseys the same way MLB pushes their batting practice jerseys, or how a lot of English soccer teams push their training kits.

  • Sage Confucius | May 11, 2007 at 4:24 am |

    [quote comment=”84343″]I used to check uniwatch from work all the time…until they added it to the list of blocked websites!

    Any smart computer-types have any tips on how to get around that?[/quote]

    Yeah, become best friends with the sys admins. If you have static IPs they can allow your IP only to access the URL. If not they have to open it up to everyone.

  • Teebz | May 11, 2007 at 6:53 am |

    It’s 6am. I am making last-minute trip preparations.

    See you guys tonight in Minneapolis! :o)