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That Hat is Juuuuuusst a Bit Outside

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By Vince Grzegorek

A couple of years ago some friends and I took a road trip to Chicago to see the Indians play the White Sox on Opening Day. As a promotion that day, the Sox gave out “Rally Socks,” which was just one white sock given to each fan. One of my friends, slightly inebriated and irritated by the Sox fans all around us, held up the white sock and said, “What the hell is this? What do you want me to do with it? Jerk off?”

And so it goes with a lot of promotional giveaways, a frustratingly high percentage of which consists of cheap stuff that you either leave under your seat or throw away while walking out of the game (or drunkenly mock). How cheap? Well, in a world of corporate naming rights and million dollar sponsorships, the Astros don’t even need someone like Coke or Toyota to give you a free tote bag — they just need one lonely dentist. That just screams, “We are giving you something really, really cheap.”

Why should we complain, though? It’s free, so shouldn’t we just sit back and be thankful that we got anything in the first place? Well, not when the stuff they give out is not just cheap, but cheap crap.

Every now and then, however, a team comes up with something really cool. And a lot of the best giveaways this year have been uni-related. For example, my personal favorite of the year so far: Rick Vaughn Glasses Giveaway Night at Jacobs Field, to celebrate the release of the commemorative edition of the Major League DVD. Seriously, who wouldn’t save those and wear them around the office, or to the grocery store, or to your in-laws’ house? Pair them with the Anderson Varejao wig you got earlier in the year at the Cavs game and you’ve got Wild Thing covered from all angles.

The second best uni-related giveaway of the year so far had to be the Rally Cap Night conducted by the Giants. When it comes to the “Is it good or is it stupid?” test, this one definitely lands on the right side. (My only concern would be that to give out rally caps before the game starts would seem to indicate that you expect to need them later on in the game, which would mean that your team would be losing, which seems a bit pessimistic, right?)

Unfortunately, Cap Night also seems to be an instance where teams feel the need to innovate, probably because the tradition has been around so long and the prospects of receiving yet another boring hat doesn’t really bring in hordes of fans through the turnstiles. The result of such outside-the-box thinking tends to be sartorial disaster though, because for every Rally Cap Night or Military Appreciation Night (which Arizona seems intent on screwing up with the ugliest camouflage hat I have ever seen) there are horrendous attempts at being creative and cute. Disgusting. Embarrassing. Ridiculous. *$&#(!@! Cheap looking. Useless. Stupid. Really stupid. Kinda makes you pine for one of those plain old boring cap nights, eh?

Alas, there’s not much you can do. Unless you’re getting a rally cap, some awesome glasses, a bobblehead, a Nacho Libre mask, a Ryan Freel dirty shirt, or this Angels clock (which is only cool because it looks like the uniform has shorts and not pants), then you simply grab your phone holder, imitation World Series ring, poster, or whatever and politely leave it under your seat like a normal person. Maybe next time you look at a schedule you’ll pay more attention to the day when Oakland gives out an A’s tie (which is Father’s Day, by the way).

Vince’s Ticker: Check out a list of the Top 10 major league promotions this year, and then roll on over to this page and marvel at 10 of the top minor league promotional nights ever. … Want to know why the Cubs have over 54 promotional events this year and why the PR people from Boston think Red Sox fans couldn’t care less about giveaways? Check out this article. … If you live in Cleveland and haven’t yet visited the Baseball as America exhibit, get on it right away. Not only is it worth it to spend a couple of hours delving through baseball’s history, but there are plenty of uni-related items along the way. Personal favorites include: Eddie Gaedel’s 1/8 jersey, Knee-Saver pads invented by Sandy Alomar Jr., the special “Star Spangled” White Sox jersey, Curt Schilling’s hat from the 2001 playoffs, and the first catcher’s mask ever used. … Larry Hughes headband watch- The Plain Dealer reported that in Game One against the Nets Hughes went 1-4 for two points and three assists before taking off his headband with 2:30 left in the first quarter, and 6-16 for 15 points, three assists and four steals afterwards. … After catching some flak for his “mussy” haircut at the draft, Brady Quinn showed up to mini camp neatly coiffed. … On a whiny note: I hate that the blue in the Indians’ batting helmets doesn’t match the blue in the jersey or the hats. Right? … Wondering what throwback jerseys might be in store for the Cavaliers in the upcoming years? After going with the orange route this past season, don’t be surprised if this design makes an appearance in the next year or two. I have it from a good source (who spoke personally to Dan Gilbert) that Mr. Gilbert likes this version best and it shouldn’t surprise anyone to see it soon. Personally, I think the design is fantastic and I have nothing to say but, “WHAM with the right hand!”

 

297 comments to That Hat is Juuuuuusst a Bit Outside

  • Robert | May 8, 2007 at 8:34 am |

    Nice job, Vince.

    I must confess that I like some of the giveaway fishing hats that you highlighted, even though I don’t fish. They are certainly better than a cheapo replica baseball cap with a corporate logo plastered on the back.

  • Tim B. | May 8, 2007 at 8:36 am |

    A good giveaway was the Ralph Kiner & Lindsey Nelson bobbleheads that came as a pair from the Mets in 2003. That showed some tasteful imagination.

  • Peter Wunsch | May 8, 2007 at 8:39 am |

    Back in the the real early 80’s the NY rangers had an unannounced cap night with a garish red cap sponsored by both Winston cigarettes and WNBC (the predecessor of WFAN). Mark Pavelich, of 1980 US Olympic team fame, scored five goals in the game against the Hartford Whalers. By games end there were at least 15,000 of the 18,000 hats back on the ice. Luckily, I have still have mine. Maybe it is worh something on eBay.

  • Mark in Shiga | May 8, 2007 at 8:50 am |

    I still have the green Mets cap that they gave away for Irish Night around 1996 or so; it’s adjustable, but it doesn’t have any stupid coporate logos on it and looks great.

    I also remember getting a replica 1986 World Series ring; it had an adjuster on the bottom and would probably be reviled by adult fans today, but at the time I thought it was amazing.

    The Cubs iPod looked like a great promotion, but now looking at the back of it, it looks more like a pathetic TV station ad that just happens to have a Cubs logo on it. I was expecting something really clever, like having the front click wheel contain the perfectly-round red C logo, or the iPod itself to be wood-grain like a bat, or maybe blue pinstripes on the white background for the body, or… you know, something really clever and fun.

  • Mark in Shiga | May 8, 2007 at 8:57 am |

    My post just got eaten, perhaps because I posted several links to pictured on eBay about the Cubs’ iPod giveaway. I had been expecting a realy clever and distinctive-looking item, maybe with blue pinstripes on a whilte background, or a woodgrain body, or something, but it’s just a plain silver iPod with a Cubs logo and then the name of a TV station on the back. Pathetic.

    The two best promotions I’ve been to were the Mets’ Irish Night in 1996 or ’97, where they gave away nice green hats, and the 1987 game when the Mets gave away World Series ring replicas. Now those rings would probably look pathetic, with their adjustable strap on the bottom, but to a kid they were amazing.

  • Paul Lukas | May 8, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    [quote comment=”83062″]My post just got eaten…[/quote]

    I just restored it.

  • Ilana Hardesty | May 8, 2007 at 9:03 am |

    Vince,
    Just a quick note to mention the best of all giveaways — when the Lowell Spinners (Sox farm team) gave away Jack Kerouac bobblehead dolls (Kerouac is, of course, a native son of Lowell, MA).
    http://www.onlyagame...

  • Joey Guns | May 8, 2007 at 9:05 am |

    The Altoona Curve (in PA) have been doing a Retro Celebrity Series promotion for the past few years. Here’s a list of some of this year’s celebrities that will appear at select games:

    TV’s Erik Estrada from CHiPs
    TV’s “Eddie Munster”, Butch Patrick
    TV’s “Peter Brady”, Christopher Knight
    TV’s “Huggy Bear” on the tv show ‘Starsky and Hutch’,Antonio Fargas
    TV’s “Potsie” from Happy Days, Anson Williams

    Last year’s Retro Celebrity night included: Richard Moll, Adam West, Barry Williams, Sherman Hemsley, Jerry Mathers, Jimmie Walker, Dawn Wells, etc.

    They’re also doing an “American Idol Finalist” promotion every month, with a finalist from one of the seasons appearing at the game.

  • Jonathon | May 8, 2007 at 9:05 am |

    Vince, beware of the floppy hat in Cleveland. Saturday, June 16th, the Braves will be in town, and it’s floppy hat night at the Jake. It will probably end up being left under my seat. Go Braves!

  • BCrisp | May 8, 2007 at 9:07 am |

    This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.

  • tim b | May 8, 2007 at 9:08 am |

    Vince, you’re dead on with the blue in the Tribe’s hats and helmets not matching up. It has bugged my buddy and I for years, namely since the Dolans started shrinking/long term phasing out the Chief a few years back.

  • Clevo | May 8, 2007 at 9:18 am |

    the Indians hats and batting helmets used to match, until they decided to lighten the blue of the hats a few years ago- they also made Chief Wahoo smaller at that time and put a silver border around him. I think it was the same year they introduced the script I hat. You know, the hat you never see anyone except team members and ushers wearing.

    Last year when the Indians were in Cincy, they gave away John Deere themed Reds hats (I think Adam LaRoche John Deere hats) They went over big with the Reds crowd. You can see s few of them in teh crowd here (sorry, its a huge pic):

    http://homepage.mac....

  • Mike V. | May 8, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    The Buckos here in Pittsburgh (a.k.a. the Suckos) have some good give a ways (they have to). My favorite this year are the era logo bobbleheads.

  • Adam | May 8, 2007 at 9:29 am |

    The idea behind the rally socks is that you’re supposed to wave it over your head. The whole “White Sox/rally socks” connection seems to make sense, except the only time Sox fans really did wave socks on a regular basis (that I can remember) was during the 1993 playoff run. Besides that, it’s never really taken off.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 9:31 am |

    Not many of you are gonna have any idea what I’m talking about but who else thinks the Red Wings should be moved to the Eastern Conference. The poor Detroit fans gotta stay up till 10:00pmEst just to see the puck dropped.
    NHL’s Conf.Finals; Detroit-A+(regarding uni’s), Anaheim-C, Ottawa-A, Buffalo-C+.
    confused?

  • Adam | May 8, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    Oh, and I should point out that only somebody pretty silly would “politely leave it under your seat like a normal person”. I don’t know about how it went in other cities, but White Sox ones were going for about $100 on ebay in the days after they were given out.

  • Adam | May 8, 2007 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”83088″]Oh, and I should point out that only somebody pretty silly would “politely leave it under your seat like a normal person”. I don’t know about how it went in other cities, but White Sox ones were going for about $100 on ebay in the days after they were given out.[/quote]

    Um, I’m talking about the imitation world series rings, of course. Oops.

  • anthony | May 8, 2007 at 9:35 am |

    Ahhh, giveaway days at Yankee Stadium…

    I used to love hat day when I was a kid. The Yankees gave away great hats (especially on batting helmet day) but then Burger King got involved and then I think it was Con Edison and they put these HUGE logos on the back of the hats. If you wore them, other kids wouldmake fun of you and say you were poor for wearing a “cheap” hat.

    Huge thumbs up for the SF rally cap – very cool!

  • Peter Wunsch | May 8, 2007 at 9:36 am |

    My brother-in-law has a machine that can install grommets onto anything. He has converted every one of my NY Ranger giveaway towels into a golf towel for the past fifteen years.

    Even the blue one that got dye all over everything the first time I used it on the course.

  • Joe Drennan | May 8, 2007 at 9:37 am |

    I am a Cubs fan and hate the White Sucks, but you have to give it to Bill Veck for being inovative to bring people out. He had the shower in the outfield (which they still have) disco demo night, put the radio play by play guys in the outfield amongst fans and so many other circus like things that made you think the Sucks were a minor league team.

  • Joe Drennan | May 8, 2007 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”83084″]Not many of you are gonna have any idea what I’m talking about but who else thinks the Red Wings should be moved to the Eastern Conference. The poor Detroit fans gotta stay up till 10:00pmEst just to see the puck dropped.
    NHL’s Conf.Finals; Detroit-A+(regarding uni’s), Anaheim-C, Ottawa-A, Buffalo-C+.
    confused?[/quote]

    Oh yea, lets realign the entire NHL so Wings fans can catch the 9 pm news and go to bed early.

  • stuby | May 8, 2007 at 9:41 am |

    A couple of weird items I have received at the ballpark…

    1) A SF Giants BBQ apron printed with the shirt front and top portion of the pants. The only problem was that if you got to close to the BBQ, the apron would melt to your skin.

    2) At the ‘Stick, they had Flashlight Night. They gave out the batteries on the way out of the ballpark so they could not be used as projectiles.

    A few of the coolest that I still have…

    1) An orange Astros batting helmet from the Astrodome in ’78

    2) A real-size (28″) wood bat from the ‘Stick in ’82 with their 25th season logo and the name ‘Joe Morgan’ underneath it.

  • Robert | May 8, 2007 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”83076″]Last year when the Indians were in Cincy, they gave away John Deere themed Reds hats (I think Adam LaRoche John Deere hats) ):

    http://homepage.mac....

    Do you mean Adam Dunn or perhaps Jason LaRue?

  • Kings33 | May 8, 2007 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”83062″]My post just got eaten, perhaps because I posted several links to pictured on eBay about the Cubs’ iPod giveaway. I had been expecting a realy clever and distinctive-looking item, maybe with blue pinstripes on a whilte background, or a woodgrain body, or something, but it’s just a plain silver iPod with a Cubs logo and then the name of a TV station on the back. Pathetic.
    [/quote]

    MArk: HAve you seen these? I use a NAts one for my laptop, and a Rutgers one on my iPod Nano…

    Meets your needs, I think.

  • Kings33 | May 8, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    link here

    This should work

  • SPIM56 | May 8, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    Not uni related, but the best promotional day I remember was in the early 80’s at Yankee Stadium. I think it might have been bobby murcer day. Since he was a spokesman for Skoal and was also pushing a hit single at the time, I believe that adults were actually given samples of the new Skoal Bandits and kids were given a poster of Bobby with a big Skoal logo on it.

  • Clevo | May 8, 2007 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”83098″][quote comment=”83076″]Last year when the Indians were in Cincy, they gave away John Deere themed Reds hats (I think Adam LaRoche John Deere hats) ):

    http://homepage.mac....

    Do you mean Adam Dunn or perhaps Jason LaRue?[/quote]

    Yeah, Jason LaRue. I knew there was a LA in there.

  • Adambez | May 8, 2007 at 9:51 am |

    The Twins gave away a very cool Piranhas Rapala this year, check it out.

  • Joe Drennan | May 8, 2007 at 9:52 am |

    I love the Dairy Queen ice cream helemts. I remember when you could go to DQ and collect all the MLB helmets. At one point I probably had 85% of the league.

  • Adambez | May 8, 2007 at 9:52 am |

    Link, sorry

  • Carl Greenfeld | May 8, 2007 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”83062″]My post just got eaten, perhaps because I posted several links to pictured on eBay about the Cubs’ iPod giveaway. I had been expecting a realy clever and distinctive-looking item, maybe with blue pinstripes on a whilte background, or a woodgrain body, or something, but it’s just a plain silver iPod with a Cubs logo and then the name of a TV station on the back. Pathetic.

    The two best promotions I’ve been to were the Mets’ Irish Night in 1996 or ’97, where they gave away nice green hats, and the 1987 game when the Mets gave away World Series ring replicas. Now those rings would probably look pathetic, with their adjustable strap on the bottom, but to a kid they were amazing.[/quote]

    I dont know, If I was getting an ipod for going to a baseball game, i would not be too concerned with the corporate logo. Not like we are talking about a crappy 50 cent mesh hat

  • Mark | May 8, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    I like the Cleveland-centric post. Personally I like the old Tribe hats with the larger Chief Wahoo and white border. I’m not a fan of the silver/gold trim they’ve been using the last 4-5 years. I actually own one of the script “I” hats. There are more then a few times I look at it and think it is a “J.”

    Since the Cavs are progressing through their throwbacks, does that mean we will see these in a year or two?

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 8, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    Thanks, Vince. I have been griping about how the Indians’ batting helmets haven’t matched the blue jerseys ever since Paul had that color specialist interview (the funny chick that worked for Adidas, I think). If they can match the colors, why not make it happen? Can you imagine the Yankees looking like that? NO WAY! Their shit matches!

  • Leo | May 8, 2007 at 10:04 am |

    Not many of you are gonna have any idea what I’m talking about but who else thinks the Red Wings should be moved to the Eastern Conference. The poor Detroit fans gotta stay up till 10:00pmEst just to see the puck dropped.
    NHL’s Conf.Finals; Detroit-A+(regarding uni’s), Anaheim-C, Ottawa-A, Buffalo-C+.
    confused?

    Oh yea, lets realign the entire NHL so Wings fans can catch the 9 pm news and go to bed early.

    You mean because the Wings are one of two (and that’s being generous and calling Columbus an NHL team) Eastern time zone teams to play in the West? Or because if Detroit moved to the East, they could play with our biggest rival (Toronto) again? Or because having to fly 2,000 miles for every playoff series is stupid? Or because it’s fun to make three trips to California a season?

  • Brian | May 8, 2007 at 10:05 am |

    This relates to one of the past blogs about the relief pitchers & the snack bags that they have. This was just ont eh Cubs website in a mailbag article:

    I was at the Cubs-Cardinals games on April 27-28, cheering on the Cubs, and my seats were right next to the Cubs’ bullpen. I noticed one of the Cubs pitchers had a pink Strawberry Shortcake backpack. Do you know whose backpack that is, and the significance?
    — Caleb W., St. Louis, Mo.

    The backpack is loaded with bullpen essentials, such as gum and candy, and is carried by whoever is the youngest member, which, in the Cubs’ situation, is Rocky Cherry.

  • Eriq Jaffe | May 8, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    All of these worked out better than Ten Cent Beer Night.

    I remember, way back in my youth, going to see the White Sox play the Red Sox, and they were giving away White Sox Tube Socks, sponsored by Clorox. The commercials, in which guys like Jerry Dybzinski just stumbled over trying to say it, were hilarious. The game is somewhat notable for being the game in which Ron LeFlore got conked on the head with a fly ball.

    I still have (and use, when it gets cold enough) a White Sox scarf that I got at a game back in ’85 or ’86.

  • todd krevanchi | May 8, 2007 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”83071″]Vince, you’re dead on with the blue in the Tribe’s hats and helmets not matching up. It has bugged my buddy and I for years, namely since the Dolans started shrinking/long term phasing out the Chief a few years back.[/quote]

    i would imagine that the difference in color is attributed to the indians using the same identical color/pantone for the helmets and the uniforms.

    wouldnt common logic say that the colors appear different because they are on different types of surfaces? a textile vs. molded plastic (or whatever synthetic material it is)?

    it seems to me that this difference is simply a failure by their design team to appropriately align their colors. im assuming that there should be 2 different blues used so each part of the uniform matches based on the surface it is used on…

    do you know what i mean, or have i totally confused you…

  • Ray | May 8, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”83094″][quote comment=”83084″]Not many of you are gonna have any idea what I’m talking about but who else thinks the Red Wings should be moved to the Eastern Conference. The poor Detroit fans gotta stay up till 10:00pmEst just to see the puck dropped.
    NHL’s Conf.Finals; Detroit-A+(regarding uni’s), Anaheim-C, Ottawa-A, Buffalo-C+.
    confused?[/quote]

    Oh yea, lets realign the entire NHL so Wings fans can catch the 9 pm news and go to bed early.[/quote]

    This was the subject of Mitch Albom’s closing “rant” on ESPN’s The Sports Reporters. He was great, telling the NHL to get a map, clock and a clue!

  • Paul | May 8, 2007 at 10:09 am |

    Interesting article: Just like the Steelers chose to wear their white jerseys in the Super Bowl, AC Milan chose to weir their white shirts in the UEFA Champions League Final. AC Milan usually wears red and black and their nickname is the “rossoneri” but they consider their white shirts their “maglia fortunata.”

  • Dan | May 8, 2007 at 10:09 am |

    I guess that “Really Stupid” is in the eye of the beholder. The Orioles have been giving away bucket hats for as long as I can remember. They’ve usually been orange. This dates back to Memorial Stadium and Natty Boh on the scoreboard. (for you non-Baltimorons, that’s the National Bohemian Beer mascot…kind of looks like the Pringles guy)

    The first one I ever got had the old cartoon Oriole bird on it. It was from before the change to the “real” Oriole.

    What I remember about them is that Miller Lite usually sponsored that give-away…and on one side it had an Orioles Logo and the other had the Miller Lite logo, so if you were a kid, they wouldn’t give you one…so I just kept the one they gave my Uncle.

    So that’s not a lame give-away…it’s a give-away rooted in Orioles tradition! lol.

  • WVU Tom | May 8, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    I personally side with “stupid” for the SF rally hats. If it were a rally hat, the SF logo should be backwards (because the hat would be inside out), plus the brim is technically curved the wrong way. On top of all this, I think it’s just plainn ugly–hard to see anyone wearing this outside of the game it was distributed.

  • Ben N | May 8, 2007 at 10:13 am |

    That picture of Rick Vaughn shows him wearing the Indians road grey uniform, and he is standing in Milwaukee County Stadium, the Indians home ballpark in the movie. Nice work, Hollywood.

  • Brandon | May 8, 2007 at 10:14 am |

    Went to the Cards/Rox game last night. The Rox were wearing their black vest alts. These make no sense to me since the undershirt is also black. Why not just add black sleeves and be done with it, or better yet get rid of it all together.

  • WVU Tom | May 8, 2007 at 10:14 am |

    [quote comment=”83125″]I guess that “Really Stupid” is in the eye of the beholder. The Orioles have been giving away bucket hats for as long as I can remember. They’ve usually been orange. This dates back to Memorial Stadium and Natty Boh on the scoreboard. (for you non-Baltimorons, that’s the National Bohemian Beer mascot…kind of looks like the Pringles guy)

    The first one I ever got had the old cartoon Oriole bird on it. It was from before the change to the “real” Oriole.

    What I remember about them is that Miller Lite usually sponsored that give-away…and on one side it had an Orioles Logo and the other had the Miller Lite logo, so if you were a kid, they wouldn’t give you one…so I just kept the one they gave my Uncle.

    So that’s not a lame give-away…it’s a give-away rooted in Orioles tradition! lol.[/quote]

    I can attest that floppy hat night is always one of the most popular promotion nights at The Yard.

  • stuby | May 8, 2007 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment=”83115″]Thanks, Vince. I have been griping about how the Indians’ batting helmets haven’t matched the blue jerseys ever since Paul had that color specialist interview (the funny chick that worked for Adidas, I think). If they can match the colors, why not make it happen? Can you imagine the Yankees looking like that? NO WAY! Their shit matches![/quote]
    Thats the problem I always had with these. I’m glad they finally fixed it.

  • JeffB | May 8, 2007 at 10:17 am |

    My two favorite ballpark giveaways were the St. Paul Saints seat cushions that featured a photo of Bud Selig on one side and Donald Fehr on the other.

    The other was Harry Caray Sunglasses Day when the Cubs gave away large black novely sunglasses, like the style shown in this link (that hopefully works)

  • James P. | May 8, 2007 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”83132″]Went to the Cards/Rox game last night. The Rox were wearing their black vest alts. These make no sense to me since the undershirt is also black. Why not just add black sleeves and be done with it, or better yet get rid of it all together.[/quote]

    i thought the same when i flipped to that game last night. i know the rox’s colors are purple, black, and white, but where was the purple on that uni? it looked like the white sox were playing the cards last night.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”83093″]I am a Cubs fan and hate the White Sucks, but you have to give it to Bill Veck for being inovative to bring people out. He had the shower in the outfield (which they still have) disco demo night, put the radio play by play guys in the outfield amongst fans and so many other circus like things that made you think the Sucks were a minor league team.[/quote]
    Hey Joe, were you one of the Chicago fans cheering for the White Sox when they were in the World Series because the Cubs blew.?

  • Joe Drennan | May 8, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”83137″][quote comment=”83093″]I am a Cubs fan and hate the White Sucks, but you have to give it to Bill Veck for being inovative to bring people out. He had the shower in the outfield (which they still have) disco demo night, put the radio play by play guys in the outfield amongst fans and so many other circus like things that made you think the Sucks were a minor league team.[/quote]

    Absolutly not. I was cheering for the Stros all the way. My wife coudn’t understand how I couldn’t support a team from my home town, but I think only Yankee and Mets fans can understand the feeling Cubs and Sox fans have in hating a team from their own city.
    Hey Joe, were you one of the Chicago fans cheering for the White Sox when they were in the World Series because the Cubs blew.?[/quote]

  • Mike | May 8, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    The Pirates are also giving away a Homestead Grays jersey (I think it is a tshirt) and the various hats, etc they usually give out.

    http://pittsburgh.pi...

  • WVU Tom | May 8, 2007 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”83056″]I still have the green Mets cap that they gave away for Irish Night around 1996 or so; it’s adjustable, but it doesn’t have any stupid coporate logos on it and looks great.

    I also remember getting a replica 1986 World Series ring; it had an adjuster on the bottom and would probably be reviled by adult fans today, but at the time I thought it was amazing.

    The Cubs iPod looked like a great promotion, but now looking at the back of it, it looks more like a pathetic TV station ad that just happens to have a Cubs logo on it. I was expecting something really clever, like having the front click wheel contain the perfectly-round red C logo, or the iPod itself to be wood-grain like a bat, or maybe blue pinstripes on the white background for the body, or… you know, something really clever and fun.[/quote]

    I’m assuming they weren’t giving these away–what was the promotion?

  • stuby | May 8, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”83141″]The Pirates are also giving away a Homestead Grays jersey (I think it is a tshirt) and the various hats, etc they usually give out.

    http://pittsburgh.pi...
    Dude, August 16th…Styx in Concert!!

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”83140″][quote comment=”83137″][quote comment=”83093″]I am a Cubs fan and hate the White Sucks, but you have to give it to Bill Veck for being inovative to bring people out. He had the shower in the outfield (which they still have) disco demo night, put the radio play by play guys in the outfield amongst fans and so many other circus like things that made you think the Sucks were a minor league team.[/quote]

    Absolutly not. I was cheering for the Stros all the way. My wife coudn’t understand how I couldn’t support a team from my home town, but I think only Yankee and Mets fans can understand the feeling Cubs and Sox fans have in hating a team from their own city.
    Hey Joe, were you one of the Chicago fans cheering for the White Sox when they were in the World Series because the Cubs blew.?[/quote][/quote]
    Actually I’m a Yankees fan, when the Subway series was happening my heart was with the Yanks, but I wouldn’t have minded if the Mets won. So you must be narrow minded.

  • todd krevanchi | May 8, 2007 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”83147″][quote comment=”83141″]The Pirates are also giving away a Homestead Grays jersey (I think it is a tshirt) and the various hats, etc they usually give out.

    http://pittsburgh.pi...
    Dude, August 16th…Styx in Concert!![/quote]

    “And he taught me that Styx was one of the greatest American rock bands and they only got a bad rap because most critics are cynical assholes.”

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”83094″][quote comment=”83084″]Not many of you are gonna have any idea what I’m talking about but who else thinks the Red Wings should be moved to the Eastern Conference. The poor Detroit fans gotta stay up till 10:00pmEst just to see the puck dropped.
    NHL’s Conf.Finals; Detroit-A+(regarding uni’s), Anaheim-C, Ottawa-A, Buffalo-C+.
    confused?[/quote]

    Oh yea, lets realign the entire NHL so Wings fans can catch the 9 pm news and go to bed early.[/quote]
    You must be one of the ones that have no idea what I’m talking about.

  • BCrisp | May 8, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”83148″][quote comment=”83140″][quote comment=”83137″][quote comment=”83093″]I am a Cubs fan and hate the White Sucks, but you have to give it to Bill Veck for being inovative to bring people out. He had the shower in the outfield (which they still have) disco demo night, put the radio play by play guys in the outfield amongst fans and so many other circus like things that made you think the Sucks were a minor league team.[/quote]

    Absolutly not. I was cheering for the Stros all the way. My wife coudn’t understand how I couldn’t support a team from my home town, but I think only Yankee and Mets fans can understand the feeling Cubs and Sox fans have in hating a team from their own city.
    Hey Joe, were you one of the Chicago fans cheering for the White Sox when they were in the World Series because the Cubs blew.?[/quote][/quote]
    Actually I’m a Yankees fan, when the Subway series was happening my heart was with the Yanks, but I wouldn’t have minded if the Mets won. So you must be narrow minded.[/quote]
    Thanks, for cheering on the ‘stros. Wish they could have done more in that series.
    Something similar to me happened last year when Texas played for the national championship. I’m an Aggie grad and Texas is our #1 rival. I did not pull for Texas because they are in the same state. Eventhough some Aggies did. I know tons of Texas fans who love to brag. Bragging rights for a national championship last a few years against your rival. I wanted USC to win just so I didn’t have to listen to Texas fans.

  • El Rey | May 8, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”83070″]This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.[/quote]

    Why did he get a bulldozer?

  • ToasterPoodle | May 8, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    I’m not sure if it was invented in Columbus or not, but ‘Dime-a-Dog Night’ was always a favorite.
    Thanks Vince for the Mighty Joe Tait reference at the end of the post. IMHO The best NBA announcer out there. So good that he doesn’t need a second man in the booth.

  • Joe Drennan | May 8, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    [quote comment=”83151″][quote comment=”83094″][quote comment=”83084″]Not many of you are gonna have any idea what I’m talking about but who else thinks the Red Wings should be moved to the Eastern Conference. The poor Detroit fans gotta stay up till 10:00pmEst just to see the puck dropped.
    NHL’s Conf.Finals; Detroit-A+(regarding uni’s), Anaheim-C, Ottawa-A, Buffalo-C+.
    confused?[/quote]

    Oh yea, lets realign the entire NHL so Wings fans can catch the 9 pm news and go to bed early.[/quote]
    You must be one of the ones that have no idea what I’m talking about.[/quote]

    I totaly get it as I stay up late many times to watch the Wild play the ‘Nucks, Sharks and Ducks.

    I rather see my team play in the tougher conference (Western) too rather than have half its schedule against teams that are perenialy struggling.

    Sure in the West there are the Blues and Blue Jackets, but teams like the Hawks are coming back, Phoenix could be good, but past that, every other team is a playoff caliber team. Look to the east and that’s not the case. Even some of the eastern teams that made the playoffs were lesser teams than western teams that were left on the outside looking in. I will admit though, the east’s top dogs are quality hockey teams, the conference just doesn’t have depth. Case in point, I think most people would have guessed a Buffalo-Ottwa est final, but the possibilities for the west final were varried as I believe 6 of the 8 in the west could have made it to the west finals.

  • Joe | May 8, 2007 at 10:55 am |

    My favorite is Bat day at Yankee stadium. They started giving them out as you leave which is great. Lets give a few thousand drunken New Yorkers wood bats and let them loose in the Bronx

  • Marty Met | May 8, 2007 at 10:55 am |

    My beloved New York Metropolitans had “Ice Cube Tray Night” in 2005.

  • stuby | May 8, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”83157″][quote comment=”83070″]This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.[/quote]

    Why did he get a bulldozer?[/quote]
    I didn’t even know they awarded an MVP of the NLDS.

  • Jeremy | May 8, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”83151″][quote comment=”83094″][quote comment=”83084″]Not many of you are gonna have any idea what I’m talking about but who else thinks the Red Wings should be moved to the Eastern Conference. The poor Detroit fans gotta stay up till 10:00pmEst just to see the puck dropped.
    NHL’s Conf.Finals; Detroit-A+(regarding uni’s), Anaheim-C, Ottawa-A, Buffalo-C+.
    confused?[/quote]

    Oh yea, lets realign the entire NHL so Wings fans can catch the 9 pm news and go to bed early.[/quote]
    You must be one of the ones that have no idea what I’m talking about.[/quote]
    I hate people who think they are superior just because they like and watch hockey. I happen to love hockey, and it’s a big pet peeve when someone gets on their high horse about how they like hockey. If you’re a true fan, you’re a true fan whether everyone else likes it or not

  • Alyssa E. | May 8, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    You forgot the hats the Phillies gave out on their most recent college night- military green, sponsored by McDonalds… Would you like some fries with that, Mr. Castro?

  • Marty Met | May 8, 2007 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”83163″]My favorite is Bat day at Yankee stadium. They started giving them out as you leave which is great. Lets give a few thousand drunken New Yorkers wood bats and let them loose in the Bronx[/quote]

    A few thousand Yankee fans. The most vile group of hooilgans east of the EPL.

  • Mike | May 8, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    Gotta disagree on Chief Wahoo… I think he should go. I live in Cleveland and I think a grinning cartoon indian is insulting to native americans. I don’t really like the script “I” either. Why not return to one of the old hats with a “C” for Cleveland? Heck, they didn’t even start wearing Wahoo on their hats until 1986.

  • Adam | May 8, 2007 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”83148″]Actually I’m a Yankees fan, when the Subway series was happening my heart was with the Yanks, but I wouldn’t have minded if the Mets won. So you must be narrow minded.[/quote]

    I think Chicago is just different in this respect than New York. I’m a White Sox fan, and I don’t know a single White Sox fan who cares about the team at all who would ever root for (or be happy for) the Cubs, and it goes the other way, too. However, I know one New Yorker and she claims to be fans of both teams.

  • stuby | May 8, 2007 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”83169″][quote comment=”83163″]My favorite is Bat day at Yankee stadium. They started giving them out as you leave which is great. Lets give a few thousand drunken New Yorkers wood bats and let them loose in the Bronx[/quote]

    A few thousand Yankee fans. The most vile group of hooilgans east of the EPL.[/quote]
    West of the EPL. Actually the polar route might be shorter…ah, nevermind.

  • James P. | May 8, 2007 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”83157″][quote comment=”83070″]This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.[/quote]

    Why did he get a bulldozer?[/quote]

    During the 2005 NLCS, Roy Oswalt was promised before game 6 if he could get a win and take the Astros to the World Series, Drayton McLane, the Astros owner, would buy him a new bulldozer. McLane had asked Roy earlier in his career what his goals were to which Roy replied “To own a bulldozer.” Roy Oswalt is now the proud owner of a Caterpillar D6N XL.

    also, the bulldozer bobblehead is one of the coolest bobbleheads ever!

  • Joe Drennan | May 8, 2007 at 11:07 am |

    [quote comment=”83171″][quote comment=”83148″]Actually I’m a Yankees fan, when the Subway series was happening my heart was with the Yanks, but I wouldn’t have minded if the Mets won. So you must be narrow minded.[/quote]

    I think Chicago is just different in this respect than New York. I’m a White Sox fan, and I don’t know a single White Sox fan who cares about the team at all who would ever root for (or be happy for) the Cubs, and it goes the other way, too. However, I know one New Yorker and she claims to be fans of both teams.[/quote]

    I agree. I think Cubs/Sox fans have more respect for the ones who pick a team and stick with them, rather than saying they like one but root for both. I may hate your team, but I apprechiate your loyalty, that’s my feeling.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”83166″][quote comment=”83151″][quote comment=”83094″][quote comment=”83084″]Not many of you are gonna have any idea what I’m talking about but who else thinks the Red Wings should be moved to the Eastern Conference. The poor Detroit fans gotta stay up till 10:00pmEst just to see the puck dropped.
    NHL’s Conf.Finals; Detroit-A+(regarding uni’s), Anaheim-C, Ottawa-A, Buffalo-C+.
    confused?[/quote]

    Oh yea, lets realign the entire NHL so Wings fans can catch the 9 pm news and go to bed early.[/quote]
    You must be one of the ones that have no idea what I’m talking about.[/quote]
    I hate people who think they are superior just because they like and watch hockey. I happen to love hockey, and it’s a big pet peeve when someone gets on their high horse about how they like hockey. If you’re a true fan, you’re a true fan whether everyone else likes it or not[/quote]
    You sound like an angry fan.

  • BCrisp | May 8, 2007 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”83173″][quote comment=”83157″][quote comment=”83070″]This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.[/quote]

    Why did he get a bulldozer?[/quote]

    During the 2005 NLCS, Roy Oswalt was promised before game 6 if he could get a win and take the Astros to the World Series, Drayton McLane, the Astros owner, would buy him a new bulldozer. McLane had asked Roy earlier in his career what his goals were to which Roy replied “To own a bulldozer.” Roy Oswalt is now the proud owner of a Caterpillar D6N XL.

    also, the bulldozer bobblehead is one of the coolest bobbleheads ever![/quote]
    Sorry, I said he was MVP of the wrong series, it should have been NLCS. I think it’s a funny story and an even better bobblehead. Oswalt is just a good ol’ buy form a small town in Mississippi who’s a hell of a pitcher.Oswalt and his ‘dozer

  • Dan | May 8, 2007 at 11:13 am |

    On the hockey thing…I mean, what are we talking about here…if we’re specifically talking about the Wings, in a Series that goes 7 games, we’re talking about AT MOST 4 games in the late time-zone.

    This year, they have a rare run of all games being against teams in that time zone (Calgary, then San Jose, now Anaheim). Odds are, more often than not, they’ll get games with St. Louis or Chicago or Minnesota in at least one series.

    I didn’t hear them complaining when they had all those series and rivalries w/ Colorado in the late 90s.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”83175″][quote comment=”83171″][quote comment=”83148″]Actually I’m a Yankees fan, when the Subway series was happening my heart was with the Yanks, but I wouldn’t have minded if the Mets won. So you must be narrow minded.[/quote]

    I think Chicago is just different in this respect than New York. I’m a White Sox fan, and I don’t know a single White Sox fan who cares about the team at all who would ever root for (or be happy for) the Cubs, and it goes the other way, too. However, I know one New Yorker and she claims to be fans of both teams.[/quote]

    I agree. I think Cubs/Sox fans have more respect for the ones who pick a team and stick with them, rather than saying they like one but root for both. I may hate your team, but I apprechiate your loyalty, that’s my feeling.[/quote]
    Ok, lets get this straight, I route for the Yankees, not the Mets, I wouldn’t have been heart broken (like Cubs fans have been since the wheel was invented) if the Mets would’ve taken the Series.!

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”83181″]On the hockey thing…I mean, what are we talking about here…if we’re specifically talking about the Wings, in a Series that goes 7 games, we’re talking about AT MOST 4 games in the late time-zone.

    This year, they have a rare run of all games being against teams in that time zone (Calgary, then San Jose, now Anaheim). Odds are, more often than not, they’ll get games with St. Louis or Chicago or Minnesota in at least one series.

    I didn’t hear them complaining when they had all those series and rivalries w/ Colorado in the late 90s.[/quote]
    Actually last night’s game in San Jose was originally scheduled for 10:30pm, but it was later changed to 8:30-9:00pm.

  • concealed78 | May 8, 2007 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”83089″][quote comment=”83088″]Oh, and I should point out that only somebody pretty silly would “politely leave it under your seat like a normal person”. I don’t know about how it went in other cities, but White Sox ones were going for about $100 on ebay in the days after they were given out.[/quote]

    Um, I’m talking about the imitation world series rings, of course. Oops.[/quote]

    One of my buddies got one at the game. For cheap crap, it wasn’t a bad looking detailed ring. One of the other huge popular Sox giveaways was Carlton Fisk ’83 home bobblehead. One giveaway hat I really liked, was from like 15 years ago, A Negro League Chicago American Giants cap, navy blue w/ big interlocking AG, in the old K.C. Athletics font. I think they wore Giants unis and it looked sharp as hell. And unfortunately as I mention of the Cubs, the jerseys they give away, if not a current authentic, it’s one of them really expensive Mitchell & Ness ones.

  • Jonathan | May 8, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    I’ll be honest. I think the obsession people have with English royalty is silly, but obsession with uniform aesthetics is not…

    While surfing the net yesterday I noticed in an article that Prince Harry was wearing a Boston Red Sox hat the other day.

    This first picture got me suspicious:

    http://www.dailymail...

    And then I found this, where you can clearly see the Sox logo on the back of the hat. Couldn’t find any straight on shots of the front of the hat.

    http://www.hellomaga...

  • concealed78 | May 8, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”83175″][quote comment=”83171″][quote comment=”83148″]Actually I’m a Yankees fan, when the Subway series was happening my heart was with the Yanks, but I wouldn’t have minded if the Mets won. So you must be narrow minded.[/quote]

    I think Chicago is just different in this respect than New York. I’m a White Sox fan, and I don’t know a single White Sox fan who cares about the team at all who would ever root for (or be happy for) the Cubs, and it goes the other way, too. However, I know one New Yorker and she claims to be fans of both teams.[/quote]

    I agree. I think Cubs/Sox fans have more respect for the ones who pick a team and stick with them, rather than saying they like one but root for both. I may hate your team, but I apprechiate your loyalty, that’s my feeling.[/quote]

    Agreed. Anyone would be hard pressed to find a Cubs & Sox fan. You pick one or the other & stick with it. No flip-flopping!

  • Jason | May 8, 2007 at 11:22 am |

    The Brewers caps are noticably lighter than their blue alts. I went to Home Depot to get the “team color” paint to paint our third bedroom in Brewers colors and the blue looked almost purple. I looked at the cap and the paint actually matched pretty well. It wasn’t going to cut it for the room though so I took in my blue alt jersey and had them match it up. Much better! If I’m ever techo advanced, I’ll post pics of the room. Its pretty cool, IMO.

  • Dan Merker | May 8, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    I was reading an article today about Royals rookie Billy Butler. Several young Royals (Butler, John Buck, Alex Gordon?) wear their pants short. I found it particularly heartening that this was said:

    “The little things are so much different here. Like the pants. In the minor leagues, you take what they give you, and it usually doesn’t fit right. Here, in the big leagues, Butler’s pants are tailored exactly the way he likes — extra room for his enormous legs and cut short to show off his stirrups.”

    The Royals might suck, but at least some of them know how to dress. KC Star

  • Anthony Verna | May 8, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”83147″][quote comment=”83141″]The Pirates are also giving away a Homestead Grays jersey (I think it is a tshirt) and the various hats, etc they usually give out.

    http://pittsburgh.pi...
    Dude, August 16th…Styx in Concert!![/quote]

    If the Clarks were playing after a game, I’d be there.

  • Johnny Bacardi | May 8, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    Very first game I ever went to, Philadelphia at Cincinnati, August 1970, was ball day. Got my free baseball signed by Denny Doyle (rookie 2B with the Phils, he was from a nearby town and he knew us) and the immortal Ron Stone.

    I’d be surprised if they still gave baseballs away at ballparks. Or bats, either- I went to a couple of bat days up in Cincy…

    Don’t like those 80’s Cavs uniforms- too much like the type of thinking that gave us cartoon dinosaurs on Toronto jerseys and the like. Made by graphic designers (and I’m one myself) who have no idea or a care about uniform tradition (I do have that, however!).

  • Jill | May 8, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”83171″][quote comment=”83148″]Actually I’m a Yankees fan, when the Subway series was happening my heart was with the Yanks, but I wouldn’t have minded if the Mets won. So you must be narrow minded.[/quote]

    I think Chicago is just different in this respect than New York. I’m a White Sox fan, and I don’t know a single White Sox fan who cares about the team at all who would ever root for (or be happy for) the Cubs, and it goes the other way, too. However, I know one New Yorker and she claims to be fans of both teams.[/quote]

    The rivalry in Chicago is much different than in New York. I grew up in Chicago and lived in New York for 5 years so I’ve seen both types of fans. I can’t imagine a Cubs fan rooting for the White Sox. And I would lose any small amount of respect I might have for White Sox fans if they started cheering for the Cubs.

  • Andrew | May 8, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    Vince can’t believe you’re hating on Bucket Hats, I still have an old Mets one that my Granpa got at a game with a Bud Light liner around it. Also have a sweet Mets winter cap from ’86, this one from Dad, that has the orange poofy ball on top.

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 8, 2007 at 11:30 am |
  • Johnny Bacardi | May 8, 2007 at 11:33 am |

    [quote comment=”83171″][quote comment=”83148″]Actually I’m a Yankees fan, when the Subway series was happening my heart was with the Yanks, but I wouldn’t have minded if the Mets won. So you must be narrow minded.[/quote]

    I think Chicago is just different in this respect than New York. I’m a White Sox fan, and I don’t know a single White Sox fan who cares about the team at all who would ever root for (or be happy for) the Cubs, and it goes the other way, too. However, I know one New Yorker and she claims to be fans of both teams.[/quote]

    I’m a Sox fan, but to be honest it wouldn’t kill me to see the Cubbies win one one of these days, if nothing else but to give all that curse crap and “lovable losers” a rest for a year. Besides, I have a tendency to root for underdogs anyway.

    Of course, maybe the fact that I live in Kentucky, and not on the South Side of Chicago, may have something to do with that…!

  • Joey Guns | May 8, 2007 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”83180″][quote comment=”83173″][quote comment=”83157″][quote comment=”83070″]This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.[/quote]

    Why did he get a bulldozer?[/quote]

    During the 2005 NLCS, Roy Oswalt was promised before game 6 if he could get a win and take the Astros to the World Series, Drayton McLane, the Astros owner, would buy him a new bulldozer. McLane had asked Roy earlier in his career what his goals were to which Roy replied “To own a bulldozer.” Roy Oswalt is now the proud owner of a Caterpillar D6N XL.

    also, the bulldozer bobblehead is one of the coolest bobbleheads ever![/quote]
    Sorry, I said he was MVP of the wrong series, it should have been NLCS. I think it’s a funny story and an even better bobblehead. Oswalt is just a good ol’ buy form a small town in Mississippi who’s a hell of a pitcher.Oswalt and his ‘dozer[/quote]

    Not a bad gift, a $200,000 Bulldozer! That blows away a $50,000 car!

  • Tim F. | May 8, 2007 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”83160″]I’m not sure if it was invented in Columbus or not, but ‘Dime-a-Dog Night’ was always a favorite.
    Thanks Vince for the Mighty Joe Tait reference at the end of the post. IMHO The best NBA announcer out there. So good that he doesn’t need a second man in the booth.[/quote]

    Hey Vince, with the reference to Joe Tait and the dedication you exhibit to exploring Cleveland’s “Athletic Aesthetics”, why not a mention of Tait’s storied sweater addiction?

  • Minna H. | May 8, 2007 at 11:38 am |

    Ok. Before I read any further, I have to comment on the Minnesota finger puppet giveaway.

    I scanned and saw only one oblique reference, so here goes.

    Last year, the ever-loquacious Ozzie Guillen called Minnesota little piranhas in explaining how the Twins beat you bit by bit rather than club you over the head.

    Then, for reasons unknown to me, the Twins took the name and ran with it. Why the team would want to identify with something another team’s manager called them, I don’t know, but there it is. That is the connection to the fish, and since it was little piranha giveaway night, the top ten guy could have found that out with the slightest bit of research.

    Whew. I feel better.

    stuby, you are in my generation. I’m thirty-six, but I didn’t become obsessed with sports until much later in life. If anyone brings back the pill-box, it should be these guys. Supposedly, that is Bert Blyleven, whom I love as an announcer.

    TD, do I need to manufacture a way for you to come to the TCUWP? I hope not ‘coz I used up all my finagling skills yesterday. Oh well. Even if it’s just me, Paul, Teebz and Natron, we will bring down the house.

  • todd krevanchi | May 8, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”83188″]I’ll be honest. I think the obsession people have with English royalty is silly, but obsession with uniform aesthetics is not…

    While surfing the net yesterday I noticed in an article that Prince Harry was wearing a Boston Red Sox hat the other day.

    This first picture got me suspicious:

    http://www.dailymail...

    And then I found this, where you can clearly see the Sox logo on the back of the hat. Couldn’t find any straight on shots of the front of the hat.

    http://www.hellomaga...

    thats just an mlb franchise from twins enterprises.
    http://www.lids.com/...
    very popular hat at lids. got probably 50 franchises in ncaa and mlb…

  • harry | May 8, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    Michigan and Michigan State wore pink during a softball game to raise awareness for breast cancer research

  • Sir Jock Strap | May 8, 2007 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”83110″]I love the Dairy Queen ice cream helemts. I remember when you could go to DQ and collect all the MLB helmets. At one point I probably had 85% of the league.[/quote]

    You’ll love this guy’s website.

    http://www.gumballhe...

  • Mike | May 8, 2007 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”83150″][quote comment=”83147″][quote comment=”83141″]The Pirates are also giving away a Homestead Grays jersey (I think it is a tshirt) and the various hats, etc they usually give out.

    http://pittsburgh.pi...
    Dude, August 16th…Styx in Concert!![/quote]

    “And he taught me that Styx was one of the greatest American rock bands and they only got a bad rap because most critics are cynical assholes.”[/quote]

    A Big Daddy reference?

    Someone should tell this guy Ruck Vaughn wore stirrups…and is wearing them wrong in the new DirecTV ads….

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

  • Adam | May 8, 2007 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”83182″]
    Ok, lets get this straight, I route for the Yankees, not the Mets, I wouldn’t have been heart broken (like Cubs fans have been since the wheel was invented) if the Mets would’ve taken the Series.![/quote]

    Well, as a White Sox fan, I can’t think of a worse nightmare than the Cubs beating us in the World Series. I don’t think I’d ever, ever, ever hear the end of it.

  • todd krevanchi | May 8, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”83210″]A Big Daddy reference?

    Someone should tell this guy Ruck Vaughn wore stirrups…and is wearing them wrong in the new DirecTV ads….

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    it sure is! i figured that was better (and more relevant) than the kangaroo song.

    with those mcfarlane customs its tough because you have to deal with the existing mlb figures. so since eric gagne wears his pants like that, and gagne’s figure is the closet youd get to vaughn (cuz of the glasses), the custom has to take on that appearance. some of the customs are really sharp though…

  • todd krevanchi | May 8, 2007 at 11:58 am |

    every time i see that picture with the headline i think of 2 things…
    a. lynn belvedere saying the name “wesley” in his english “wezzzzzzzzleeee”
    b. and this
    http://youtube.com/w...

  • Joe Drennan | May 8, 2007 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”83208″]Michigan and Michigan State wore pink during a softball game to raise awareness for breast cancer research[/quote]
    Looks like the helmet cage is pink too. I like that the helmet cage is a plastic one, alowing the batter to see through it, much like a hockey visor.

  • Seth H | May 8, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    My favorite is Bat day at Yankee stadium. They started giving them out as you leave which is great. Lets give a few thousand drunken New Yorkers wood bats and let them loose in the Bronx

    Actually, you are wrong.

    I have attended bat day several times, both as a 8 or 9 year old kid (right before they reonvated the Stadium) and as a parent. The bats are given to the kids (not adults) when they walk in and, in a time honored tradition, at one point during the game Bob Shepard asks all the kids to raise their bats up in the air. It is a great moment. (And if you remember doing it as a kid, and you see your own kids doing it, you might even get a little misty.)

  • Sir Jock Strap | May 8, 2007 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”83170″]Gotta disagree on Chief Wahoo… I think he should go. I live in Cleveland and I think a grinning cartoon indian is insulting to native americans. I don’t really like the script “I” either. Why not return to one of the old hats with a “C” for Cleveland? Heck, they didn’t even start wearing Wahoo on their hats until 1986.
    [/quote]

    As a Native American from the Ohlone tribe …lighten up francis.

    I suppose Italians should be upset at Nintendo for Mario.

  • Brian | May 8, 2007 at 12:01 pm |

    Hey Paul,

    Do you have a second home in Illinois? I just saw this headline on MSNBC.com:

    Darn it! Serial sock snatcher refuses to toe line
    Illinois man with long history of sock-related offenses charged again

  • Derek G. | May 8, 2007 at 12:07 pm |

    I hope we see these Cavs throwbacks soon

    throwback

  • Erik | May 8, 2007 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”83084″]Not many of you are gonna have any idea what I’m talking about but who else thinks the Red Wings should be moved to the Eastern Conference. The poor Detroit fans gotta stay up till 10:00pmEst just to see the puck dropped.
    NHL’s Conf.Finals; Detroit-A+(regarding uni’s), Anaheim-C, Ottawa-A, Buffalo-C+.
    confused?[/quote]

    I agree completely. Not really uniform related but I always wondered why, for example, the Dallas Cowboys were in the NFC East! There’s a bunch more of examples, like Detroit being in the west, the Texas Rangers being in the AL West, etc.

  • Joe | May 8, 2007 at 12:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”83219″]My favorite is Bat day at Yankee stadium. They started giving them out as you leave which is great. Lets give a few thousand drunken New Yorkers wood bats and let them loose in the Bronx

    Actually, you are wrong.

    I have attended bat day several times, both as a 8 or 9 year old kid (right before they reonvated the Stadium) and as a parent. The bats are given to the kids (not adults) when they walk in and, in a time honored tradition, at one point during the game Bob Shepard asks all the kids to raise their bats up in the air. It is a great moment. (And if you remember doing it as a kid, and you see your own kids doing it, you might even get a little misty.)[/quote]
    last time i was there they gave them to everyone as we left. Thats how my father and i got two of them. I dont remember anything like you describe, but its been over a year

  • Joe Drennan | May 8, 2007 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”83204″]JD, do I need to manufacture a way for you to come to the TCUWP? I hope not ‘coz I used up all my finagling skills yesterday. Oh well. Even if it’s just me, Paul, Teebz and Natron, we will bring down the house.[/quote]

    Hmm, wore out your nails. SOunds like you need to go get them done with some pink polish since pink is your favorite color.

  • James P. | May 8, 2007 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”83214″]
    with those mcfarlane customs its tough because you have to deal with the existing mlb figures. so since eric gagne wears his pants like that, and gagne’s figure is the closet youd get to vaughn (cuz of the glasses), the custom has to take on that appearance. some of the customs are really sharp though…[/quote]

    being one to have mad a custom using a SportPick, when you do a basic repaint you are limited by the base figure, but if you have the skill to kitbash/resculpt, you can basically make the base look however you want. that being said, a “Wild Thing” Vaughn could also be made from a Nolan Ryan Cooperstown series 3 with glasses sculpted on…stirrups already provided on the base figure.

  • Another Jason | May 8, 2007 at 12:26 pm |

    The Reds promotion department is showing Bronson Arroyo some love with his own straight-legged bobblehead and the kinda creepy hat night

  • Teebz | May 8, 2007 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”83084″]Not many of you are gonna have any idea what I’m talking about but who else thinks the Red Wings should be moved to the Eastern Conference. The poor Detroit fans gotta stay up till 10:00pmEst just to see the puck dropped.
    NHL’s Conf.Finals; Detroit-A+(regarding uni’s), Anaheim-C, Ottawa-A, Buffalo-C+.
    confused?[/quote]

    Not me. Who would take their spot?

  • Terry Mark | May 8, 2007 at 12:29 pm |

    So with the Giants Rally Cap, if you turn that inside out, do you get a regular Giants cap?

  • Joe | May 8, 2007 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”83133″][quote comment=”83125″]I guess that “Really Stupid” is in the eye of the beholder. The Orioles have been giving away bucket hats for as long as I can remember. They’ve usually been orange. This dates back to Memorial Stadium and Natty Boh on the scoreboard. (for you non-Baltimorons, that’s the National Bohemian Beer mascot…kind of looks like the Pringles guy)

    The first one I ever got had the old cartoon Oriole bird on it. It was from before the change to the “real” Oriole.

    What I remember about them is that Miller Lite usually sponsored that give-away…and on one side it had an Orioles Logo and the other had the Miller Lite logo, so if you were a kid, they wouldn’t give you one…so I just kept the one they gave my Uncle.

    So that’s not a lame give-away…it’s a give-away rooted in Orioles tradition! lol.[/quote]

    I can attest that floppy hat night is always one of the most popular promotion nights at The Yard.[/quote]

    I agree! The first thing we do when the schedule is announced is look for floppy hat night! It’s always the most fun game. I think I have about 10 of them. Remember when they did the green hat for 1 year? It sucked. My favorite is a white one I have with the cartoon bird and the miller logo on the top.

    Back when I was a wee lad I went to bat day at memorial stadium to see the O’s play the A’s. My favorite player was Jose Canseco (I was 11 and had no idea what steriods were, so no jokes please!) and I struck up a conversation before the game with the Pitching Coach’s (Dave Duncan) son. Yes, that is current star Chris Duncan. He traded me a Canseco signed ball for my free bat and $10! I still have the ball!

    My guess is that Chris was always on the road and had to see dozens of giveaway nights, so maybe he had a collection of stuff?

  • Jeremy | May 8, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    Anyone ever notice that Rob Stone from Mr. Belvedere is a dead ringer for Mad Dog?

  • Teebz | May 8, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”83204″]
    TD, do I need to manufacture a way for you to come to the TCUWP? I hope not ‘coz I used up all my finagling skills yesterday. Oh well. Even if it’s just me, Paul, Teebz and Natron, we will bring down the house.[/quote]

    Teebz might be out. Long story, but let’s just say that yesterday’s topic of softball and steroid-monkeys are a big reason why. If I can escape the doctor’s appointment on Friday, I’ll be there.

  • shadoquad | May 8, 2007 at 12:33 pm |

    As usual, Vince, I enjoyed your column. It’s always a fairly seamless transition between Paul posts. Good stuff.

    Al

  • Sage Confucius | May 8, 2007 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”83152″][quote comment=”83148″][quote comment=”83140″][quote comment=”83137″][quote comment=”83093″]I am a Cubs fan and hate the White Sucks, but you have to give it to Bill Veck for being inovative to bring people out. He had the shower in the outfield (which they still have) disco demo night, put the radio play by play guys in the outfield amongst fans and so many other circus like things that made you think the Sucks were a minor league team.[/quote]

    Absolutly not. I was cheering for the Stros all the way. My wife coudn’t understand how I couldn’t support a team from my home town, but I think only Yankee and Mets fans can understand the feeling Cubs and Sox fans have in hating a team from their own city.
    Hey Joe, were you one of the Chicago fans cheering for the White Sox when they were in the World Series because the Cubs blew.?[/quote][/quote]
    Actually I’m a Yankees fan, when the Subway series was happening my heart was with the Yanks, but I wouldn’t have minded if the Mets won. So you must be narrow minded.[/quote]
    Thanks, for cheering on the ‘stros. Wish they could have done more in that series.
    Something similar to me happened last year when Texas played for the national championship. I’m an Aggie grad and Texas is our #1 rival. I did not pull for Texas because they are in the same state. Eventhough some Aggies did. I know tons of Texas fans who love to brag. Bragging rights for a national championship last a few years against your rival. I wanted USC to win just so I didn’t have to listen to Texas fans.[/quote]

    I am a lifelong Aggie fan and I pulled for the ‘Horns. It came down to state pride over Aggie pride. I’ve even been known to pull for the ‘Horns over the Aggies at certain times when it would benefit the greater good of the state of Texas.

  • Teebz | May 8, 2007 at 12:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”83225″][quote comment=”83084″]Not many of you are gonna have any idea what I’m talking about but who else thinks the Red Wings should be moved to the Eastern Conference. The poor Detroit fans gotta stay up till 10:00pmEst just to see the puck dropped.
    NHL’s Conf.Finals; Detroit-A+(regarding uni’s), Anaheim-C, Ottawa-A, Buffalo-C+.
    confused?[/quote]

    I agree completely. Not really uniform related but I always wondered why, for example, the Dallas Cowboys were in the NFC East! There’s a bunch more of examples, like Detroit being in the west, the Texas Rangers being in the AL West, etc.[/quote]

    It’s called “the balance of the teams” unofficially. Detroit is in the East, but they play in the West in the NHL due to the number of East Coast teams. Nashville also follows this reasoning.

  • Andrew F | May 8, 2007 at 12:35 pm |

    This is up there for worst giveaway ever- http://www.brooklync...

    I used to love glove day, but as a lefty, it seemed like it was always impossible for me to get one. And I have quite the collection of Mets giveaway batting helmets from when I was a kid. Once I have a house, a bar is going in the basement, and those are definitely going on the wall.

  • B.G. | May 8, 2007 at 12:37 pm |

    Regarding the Wings…the late time zones for fans are bad enough, but the traveling for the team is brutal. Just as approximation, for the 3 game Calgary series they travelled 9400 miles there and back. To San Jose, a whopping 20,000! To Anaheim, they will go there at least twice, maybe three times for 4000 to 6000 miles of travel. Even on Redbird1, their plane, that has to take a toll on them. The Eastern Conference teams are much closer to each other. For the Buffalo/Rangers series they didn’t even have to leave the state! I guess what doesn’t kill them, makes them stronger. That’s why I love me some hockey players – they’re tough – Go Wings!

  • Matt B | May 8, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    >Oh yea, lets realign the entire NHL so Wings fans can catch the 9 pm news and go to bed early.

    Eastern Time cities should not be in Western Divisions, full stop.

    Worst promo giveaway: The Brewers gave away kids’ baseball gloves, “signed” by Robin Yount. Cheap vinyl things, but hey they’re free. The crappy thing was that the lefty glove was an exact mirror images, so we southpaws got stuck with reversed signatures. How insulting!

  • Dave | May 8, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”83126″]I personally side with “stupid” for the SF rally hats. If it were a rally hat, the SF logo should be backwards (because the hat would be inside out), plus the brim is technically curved the wrong way. On top of all this, I think it’s just plainn ugly–hard to see anyone wearing this outside of the game it was distributed.[/quote]

    I agree. It reminds me of those hats that are designed to be worn backwards, with the main logo printed on the back. It’s unnatural. Besides, the best part of a rally cap is making it out of a regular hat.

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”83148″][quote comment=”83140″][quote comment=”83137″][quote comment=”83093″]I am a Cubs fan and hate the White Sucks, but you have to give it to Bill Veck for being inovative to bring people out. He had the shower in the outfield (which they still have) disco demo night, put the radio play by play guys in the outfield amongst fans and so many other circus like things that made you think the Sucks were a minor league team.[/quote]

    Absolutly not. I was cheering for the Stros all the way. My wife coudn’t understand how I couldn’t support a team from my home town, but I think only Yankee and Mets fans can understand the feeling Cubs and Sox fans have in hating a team from their own city.
    Hey Joe, were you one of the Chicago fans cheering for the White Sox when they were in the World Series because the Cubs blew.?[/quote][/quote]
    Actually I’m a Yankees fan, when the Subway series was happening my heart was with the Yanks, but I wouldn’t have minded if the Mets won. So you must be narrow minded.[/quote]

    I’m a Mets fan and I definitely minded that the Yankees won. The Yankees are like the evil empire. I route for Boston in the socks/yanks series. I know people won’t like this, but I can’t consider someone a true fan if they have sympathy for the opponent.

  • Matthew S. | May 8, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”83202″][quote comment=”83180″][quote comment=”83173″][quote comment=”83157″][quote comment=”83070″]This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.[/quote]

    Why did he get a bulldozer?[/quote]

    During the 2005 NLCS, Roy Oswalt was promised before game 6 if he could get a win and take the Astros to the World Series, Drayton McLane, the Astros owner, would buy him a new bulldozer. McLane had asked Roy earlier in his career what his goals were to which Roy replied “To own a bulldozer.” Roy Oswalt is now the proud owner of a Caterpillar D6N XL.

    also, the bulldozer bobblehead is one of the coolest bobbleheads ever![/quote]
    Sorry, I said he was MVP of the wrong series, it should have been NLCS. I think it’s a funny story and an even better bobblehead. Oswalt is just a good ol’ buy form a small town in Mississippi who’s a hell of a pitcher.Oswalt and his ‘dozer[/quote]

    Not a bad gift, a $200,000 Bulldozer!

    That blows away a $50,000 car![/quote]

    There was an article about this in ESPN ‘The Magazine’ last year too. Roy owns a huge amount of land in Weir, Mississippi (his hometown). Drayton McClain is one of the richest owners in baseball (worth a couple billion I think), so dropping $200,000 on a bulldozer for his ace pitcher as a reward for getting the team to it’s first World Series is a drop in the bucket for him.

    Anyway, here’s a couple pictures of Oswalt getting the bulldozer:

    http://houston.astro...

    http://www.astroasyl...

  • todd krevanchi | May 8, 2007 at 12:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”83245″][quote comment=”83202″][quote comment=”83180″][quote comment=”83173″][quote comment=”83157″][quote comment=”83070″]This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.[/quote]

    Why did he get a bulldozer?[/quote]

    During the 2005 NLCS, Roy Oswalt was promised before game 6 if he could get a win and take the Astros to the World Series, Drayton McLane, the Astros owner, would buy him a new bulldozer. McLane had asked Roy earlier in his career what his goals were to which Roy replied “To own a bulldozer.” Roy Oswalt is now the proud owner of a Caterpillar D6N XL.

    also, the bulldozer bobblehead is one of the coolest bobbleheads ever![/quote]
    Sorry, I said he was MVP of the wrong series, it should have been NLCS. I think it’s a funny story and an even better bobblehead. Oswalt is just a good ol’ buy form a small town in Mississippi who’s a hell of a pitcher.Oswalt and his ‘dozer[/quote]

    Not a bad gift, a $200,000 Bulldozer!

    That blows away a $50,000 car![/quote]

    There was an article about this in ESPN ‘The Magazine’ last year too. Roy owns a huge amount of land in Weir, Mississippi (his hometown). Drayton McClain is one of the richest owners in baseball (worth a couple billion I think), so dropping $200,000 on a bulldozer for his ace pitcher as a reward for getting the team to it’s first World Series is a drop in the bucket for him.

    Anyway, here’s a couple pictures of Oswalt getting the bulldozer:

    http://houston.astro...

    http://www.astroasyl...

    nothing says “great job man!” than the gift of an earth mover…

  • Anthony Verna | May 8, 2007 at 12:53 pm |

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who finds the gift of a bulldozer just. . . odd.

  • Wes Walz | May 8, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”83165″][quote comment=”83157″][quote comment=”83070″]This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.[/quote]

    Why did he get a bulldozer?[/quote]
    I didn’t even know they awarded an MVP of the NLDS.[/quote]

    That’s the joke–there isn’t an NLDS MVP award. Several players, though, have incentives written into their contracts about this. I think Oswalt was just being rewarded by Drayton McLane for a good season, basically.

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”83241″]Worst promo giveaway: The Brewers gave away kids’ baseball gloves, “signed” by Robin Yount. Cheap vinyl things, but hey they’re free. The crappy thing was that the lefty glove was an exact mirror images, so we southpaws got stuck with reversed signatures. How insulting![/quote]

    I remember going to a Mets game at Shea as a kid on glove give away day. They were also the cheap vinyl kind. At the gate they gave away all righty gloves, but you could go up to a special window and exchange it if you were a lefty. I remember that because at the time my little sister (probably 4 or 5 years old) thought she was a lefty (she turned out to be a righty). That Mets glove was the first glove I used for little league in T-ball. It was intact I think until I was in Junior High when I used the laces (they were actually rawhide) to repair a first baseman’s mitt.

  • Joe Drennan | May 8, 2007 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”83248″]I’m glad I’m not the only one who finds the gift of a bulldozer just. . . odd.[/quote]
    I doubt you’re the only one who thinks it odd, but I think you’d be hard pressed to find somebody who doesn’t think that’s a cool gift. Certainly out of the ordinary. It beats some car you’ll turn around and sell.

  • Matthew S. | May 8, 2007 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”83249″][quote comment=”83165″][quote comment=”83157″][quote comment=”83070″]This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.[/quote]

    Why did he get a bulldozer?[/quote]
    I didn’t even know they awarded an MVP of the NLDS.[/quote]

    That’s the joke–there isn’t an NLDS MVP award. Several players, though, have incentives written into their contracts about this. I think Oswalt was just being rewarded by Drayton McLane for a good season, basically.[/quote]

    No, it was originally a typo. Oswalt was the NLCS MVP and the bulldozer was Drayton McClain’s award for his efforts in pitching the Astros to their first World Series (because god knows we didn’t hit our way into it…)

  • Tod | May 8, 2007 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”83249″][quote comment=”83165″][quote comment=”83157″][quote comment=”83070″]This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.[/quote]

    Why did he get a bulldozer?[/quote]
    I didn’t even know they awarded an MVP of the NLDS.[/quote]

    That’s the joke–there isn’t an NLDS MVP award. Several players, though, have incentives written into their contracts about this. I think Oswalt was just being rewarded by Drayton McLane for a good season, basically.[/quote]
    I’m sorry, but didn’t Oswalt get paid 5.9 mil to lead his team to the World Series?

  • Jonathon | May 8, 2007 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”83141″]The Pirates are also giving away a Homestead Grays jersey (I think it is a tshirt) and the various hats, etc they usually give out.

    http://pittsburgh.pi...

    It’s interesting that Pittsburgh is commemorating the Grays; the Nationals wore retro Grays jerseys for a home game against the Mets last year. I think the Mets wore the unis of the New York Cubans. The Grays played “home games” in both Pittsburgh and Washington.

  • muskiejim | May 8, 2007 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”83253″][quote comment=”83249″][quote comment=”83165″][quote comment=”83157″][quote comment=”83070″]This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.[/quote]

    Why did he get a bulldozer?[/quote]
    I didn’t even know they awarded an MVP of the NLDS.[/quote]

    That’s the joke–there isn’t an NLDS MVP award. Several players, though, have incentives written into their contracts about this. I think Oswalt was just being rewarded by Drayton McLane for a good season, basically.[/quote]

    No, it was originally a typo. Oswalt was the NLCS MVP and the bulldozer was Drayton McClain’s award for his efforts in pitching the Astros to their first World Series (because god knows we didn’t hit our way into it…)[/quote]

    6 million dollars seems like enough of a reward to me!

  • Matthew S. | May 8, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”83256″][quote comment=”83253″][quote comment=”83249″][quote comment=”83165″][quote comment=”83157″][quote comment=”83070″]This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.[/quote]

    Why did he get a bulldozer?[/quote]
    I didn’t even know they awarded an MVP of the NLDS.[/quote]

    That’s the joke–there isn’t an NLDS MVP award. Several players, though, have incentives written into their contracts about this. I think Oswalt was just being rewarded by Drayton McLane for a good season, basically.[/quote]

    No, it was originally a typo. Oswalt was the NLCS MVP and the bulldozer was Drayton McClain’s award for his efforts in pitching the Astros to their first World Series (because god knows we didn’t hit our way into it…)[/quote]

    6 million dollars seems like enough of a reward to me![/quote]

    Are we really going to give a guy crap for receiving a gift from a grateful owner for putting his team (almost single handedly in game 6 of that NLCS) in the World Series for the first time in the team’s 42 year history?

  • Mike | May 8, 2007 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”83214″][quote comment=”83210″]A Big Daddy reference?

    Someone should tell this guy Ruck Vaughn wore stirrups…and is wearing them wrong in the new DirecTV ads….

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    it sure is! i figured that was better (and more relevant) than the kangaroo song.

    with those mcfarlane customs its tough because you have to deal with the existing mlb figures. so since eric gagne wears his pants like that, and gagne’s figure is the closet youd get to vaughn (cuz of the glasses), the custom has to take on that appearance. some of the customs are really sharp though…[/quote]

    Agreed, some are much, much better than the originals

  • Minna H. | May 8, 2007 at 1:09 pm |

    Re: Cleveland’s nickname.

    Kevin of Ohio, as has been discussed before, there is a vast difference between Irish Americans accepting something that may or may not be perceived as derogatory and the same for Native Americans. Also, the fans may not consider the nicknames derogatory, but that doesn’t make it so. That is the view of the dominant mainstream which doesn’t always see eye-to-eye with the minority–that is one of the definitions of racism.

    Sir J.S., I am glad you are not bothered by it; other Native Americans are. There is no monolith view for any given ‘race’.

    Teebz, aw, damn, man. I hope you are ok, and I really hope you can make it down.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”83244″][quote comment=”83148″][quote comment=”83140″][quote comment=”83137″][quote comment=”83093″]I am a Cubs fan and hate the White Sucks, but you have to give it to Bill Veck for being inovative to bring people out. He had the shower in the outfield (which they still have) disco demo night, put the radio play by play guys in the outfield amongst fans and so many other circus like things that made you think the Sucks were a minor league team.[/quote]

    Absolutly not. I was cheering for the Stros all the way. My wife coudn’t understand how I couldn’t support a team from my home town, but I think only Yankee and Mets fans can understand the feeling Cubs and Sox fans have in hating a team from their own city.
    Hey Joe, were you one of the Chicago fans cheering for the White Sox when they were in the World Series because the Cubs blew.?[/quote][/quote]
    Actually I’m a Yankees fan, when the Subway series was happening my heart was with the Yanks, but I wouldn’t have minded if the Mets won. So you must be narrow minded.[/quote]

    I’m a Mets fan and I definitely minded that the Yankees won. The Yankees are like the evil empire. I route for Boston in the socks/yanks series. I know people won’t like this, but I can’t consider someone a true fan if they have sympathy for the opponent.[/quote]
    That’s funny, cause whenever the Dodgers play the Mets, I route for the Dodgers.

  • Jaye | May 8, 2007 at 1:10 pm |

    Off the subject: This morning, while watching a past episode of Antiques Roadshow, they showed a 1951 Minneapolis Millers jersey worn by #28, Willie Mays. It was purchased for $50. The appraised value? $60,000-$80,000!!! What made it so special? A tear in the arm that was stitched up, likely proving that the Say Hey Kid actually played in it. SO … what’s in your closet? Better check!!!!

  • Andrew F | May 8, 2007 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”83115″]Thanks, Vince. I have been griping about how the Indians’ batting helmets haven’t matched the blue jerseys ever since Paul had that color specialist interview (the funny chick that worked for Adidas, I think). If they can match the colors, why not make it happen? Can you imagine the Yankees looking like that? NO WAY! Their shit matches![/quote]

    yeah, their shit really matches.

  • Metsfan AZ | May 8, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”83260″][quote comment=”83244″][quote comment=”83148″][quote comment=”83140″][quote comment=”83137″][quote comment=”83093″]I am a Cubs fan and hate the White Sucks, but you have to give it to Bill Veck for being inovative to bring people out. He had the shower in the outfield (which they still have) disco demo night, put the radio play by play guys in the outfield amongst fans and so many other circus like things that made you think the Sucks were a minor league team.[/quote]

    Absolutly not. I was cheering for the Stros all the way. My wife coudn’t understand how I couldn’t support a team from my home town, but I think only Yankee and Mets fans can understand the feeling Cubs and Sox fans have in hating a team from their own city.
    Hey Joe, were you one of the Chicago fans cheering for the White Sox when they were in the World Series because the Cubs blew.?[/quote][/quote]
    Actually I’m a Yankees fan, when the Subway series was happening my heart was with the Yanks, but I wouldn’t have minded if the Mets won. So you must be narrow minded.[/quote]

    I’m a Mets fan and I definitely minded that the Yankees won. The Yankees are like the evil empire. I route for Boston in the socks/yanks series. I know people won’t like this, but I can’t consider someone a true fan if they have sympathy for the opponent.[/quote]
    That’s funny, cause whenever the Dodgers play the Mets, I route for the Dodgers.[/quote]
    And what “root” do you take to get to Shea? sorry, couldn’t resist. I really can’t root for anyone other than the Good Guys. I am happy for my friends if their team wins somehting and it isn’t at the expense of one of my teams. but I don’t openly root for anyone other than the Amazin’s.

  • Wes Walz | May 8, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    Regarding the NHL and its conference alignment; did many people complain when we used the old Wales/Campbell format? I don’t recall much whining. After all, in the Norris when I was growing up it was my North Stars against the hated Blackhawks (or Black Hawks, if you’re a history guy), Dead Things, Leafs, and the classic Bluenote, another ’67 entry. Good division–always good when the Leafs were even worse than the NS and we limped into the playoffs with about 70 points, too!

    Toronto finally made its way into the east after two runs to the western conference finals (Gretzky in Gm7 at MLG in ’93 was and is an epic event) but DET is still in the west. Too bad. You can only hope for teams to move or sprout up in KC, Vegas, and Portland to have any chance of going east.

    As a fan of Minnesota’s new team now, I can see where Detroiters can feel like it’s rough to be in the west. I live in the Eastern time zone now as well, so I know all about staying up late to see the Wild square off against VAN, EDM, and CGY.

    In fact, since those teams comprise the Northwest division with MIN, I have to stay up late more often than a DET fan whose division reaches no farther than the banks of the Mississippi…

    I’m not feeling much sympathy for you, Wings fans. You’ve got more Cups (unfortunately), you knocked the North Stars out of their last playoff appearance (1991-92), and you’re still in the playoffs (since ANA beat the Wild and I just don’t like DET, I’ll root for the GREAT Sabres–Let’s Go Buffalo!–or Ottawa to support my Canadian friends) you should just sit back and enjoy.

    Realignment can wait…and wait…and wait. Remember, the West has to retain SOME Original Six team–and it will be a couple of years before Chicago gets to be decent enough to merit that title again.

  • scott | May 8, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    So with the Giants Rally Cap, if you turn that inside out, do you get a regular Giants cap?

    No, not really. In Norwich, Conn., where the Giants’ AA affiliate plays, the team recently gave out the same caps to fans. Two things wrong with the cap: the SF should be backwards, and the tags should be on the outside.

  • Tiki | May 8, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    I mean this in the most non-whiny way, but why do all the links open in seperate windows now? They used to just open all in the same window, now I wind up opening 15 different ones. Can we go back to the old way?

  • Minna H. | May 8, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”83228″][quote comment=”83204″]JD, do I need to manufacture a way for you to come to the TCUWP? I hope not ‘coz I used up all my finagling skills yesterday. Oh well. Even if it’s just me, Paul, Teebz and Natron, we will bring down the house.[/quote]

    Hmm, wore out your nails. SOunds like you need to go get them done with some pink polish since pink is your favorite color.[/quote]

    Hahahaha. I guess it’s a good thing you’re not coming, Joe D., because I would have to whap you as well as take your North Stars jersey.

    Oh, wait. The JD was supposed to be TD. Damn. I need some coffee.

    TD, I hope you can drop by the TCUWP.

    As for the rally cap, I am in the “it’s stupid” category. If I want a rally cap, I’ll turn the damn cap inside-out myself.

  • SPIM56 | May 8, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”83219″]

    I have attended bat day several times, both as a 8 or 9 year old kid (right before they reonvated the Stadium) and as a parent. The bats are given to the kids (not adults) when they walk in and, in a time honored tradition, at one point during the game Bob Shepard asks all the kids to raise their bats up in the air. It is a great moment. (And if you remember doing it as a kid, and you see your own kids doing it, you might even get a little misty.)[/quote]

    Some old shots of Yankee Stadium Bat Day. They still have you raise your bats on Bat Day. Can’t find any modern pictures though.

  • Teebz | May 8, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”83267″]Regarding the NHL and its conference alignment; did many people complain when we used the old Wales/Campbell format? I don’t recall much whining. After all, in the Norris when I was growing up it was my North Stars against the hated Blackhawks (or Black Hawks, if you’re a history guy), Dead Things, Leafs, and the classic Bluenote, another ’67 entry. Good division–always good when the Leafs were even worse than the NS and we limped into the playoffs with about 70 points, too!

    Toronto finally made its way into the east after two runs to the western conference finals (Gretzky in Gm7 at MLG in ’93 was and is an epic event) but DET is still in the west. Too bad. You can only hope for teams to move or sprout up in KC, Vegas, and Portland to have any chance of going east.

    As a fan of Minnesota’s new team now, I can see where Detroiters can feel like it’s rough to be in the west. I live in the Eastern time zone now as well, so I know all about staying up late to see the Wild square off against VAN, EDM, and CGY.

    In fact, since those teams comprise the Northwest division with MIN, I have to stay up late more often than a DET fan whose division reaches no farther than the banks of the Mississippi…

    I’m not feeling much sympathy for you, Wings fans. You’ve got more Cups (unfortunately), you knocked the North Stars out of their last playoff appearance (1991-92), and you’re still in the playoffs (since ANA beat the Wild and I just don’t like DET, I’ll root for the GREAT Sabres–Let’s Go Buffalo!–or Ottawa to support my Canadian friends) you should just sit back and enjoy.

    Realignment can wait…and wait…and wait. Remember, the West has to retain SOME Original Six team–and it will be a couple of years before Chicago gets to be decent enough to merit that title again.[/quote]

    Despite the rantings of the Norris division you made, you also had Tampa Bay in there for a couple of seasons which no one seems to remember. Tampa Bay hardly fit into the same timezone as any other Norris division team.

    Just pointing out to Detroit fans that it’s not always fair.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”83266″][quote comment=”83260″][quote comment=”83244″][quote comment=”83148″][quote comment=”83140″][quote comment=”83137″][quote comment=”83093″]I am a Cubs fan and hate the White Sucks, but you have to give it to Bill Veck for being inovative to bring people out. He had the shower in the outfield (which they still have) disco demo night, put the radio play by play guys in the outfield amongst fans and so many other circus like things that made you think the Sucks were a minor league team.[/quote]

    Absolutly not. I was cheering for the Stros all the way. My wife coudn’t understand how I couldn’t support a team from my home town, but I think only Yankee and Mets fans can understand the feeling Cubs and Sox fans have in hating a team from their own city.
    Hey Joe, were you one of the Chicago fans cheering for the White Sox when they were in the World Series because the Cubs blew.?[/quote][/quote]
    Actually I’m a Yankees fan, when the Subway series was happening my heart was with the Yanks, but I wouldn’t have minded if the Mets won. So you must be narrow minded.[/quote]

    I’m a Mets fan and I definitely minded that the Yankees won. The Yankees are like the evil empire. I route for Boston in the socks/yanks series. I know people won’t like this, but I can’t consider someone a true fan if they have sympathy for the opponent.[/quote]
    That’s funny, cause whenever the Dodgers play the Mets, I route for the Dodgers.[/quote]
    And what “root” do you take to get to Shea? sorry, couldn’t resist. I really can’t root for anyone other than the Good Guys. I am happy for my friends if their team wins somehting and it isn’t at the expense of one of my teams. but I don’t openly root for anyone other than the Amazin’s.[/quote]
    You can “root” all you want for your other New York team, 85% of this state all know the Yankees own the entire state.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 1:25 pm |

    it wasnt’ me this time..

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”83269″]I mean this in the most non-whiny way, but why do all the links open in seperate windows now? They used to just open all in the same window, now I wind up opening 15 different ones. Can we go back to the old way?[/quote]

    Beacuase that’s the way Vince does his entries. Paul’s will still be in all the same window. I like Vince’s way better though because some links take time to load and I like to keep reading and click other links.

  • Metsfan AZ | May 8, 2007 at 1:27 pm |

    me either fixed?

  • Joe Drennan | May 8, 2007 at 1:27 pm |

    must be a slow day for everybody if we’re already at 140 comments at lunch time.

  • Minna H. | May 8, 2007 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”83266″][quote comment=”83260″]That’s funny, cause whenever the Dodgers play the Mets, I route for the Dodgers.[/quote]
    And what “root” do you take to get to Shea? sorry, couldn’t resist. I really can’t root for anyone other than the Good Guys. I am happy for my friends if their team wins somehting and it isn’t at the expense of one of my teams. but I don’t openly root for anyone other than the Amazin’s.[/quote]

    Damn, MetsfanAZ. You beat me to it, and you were funny about it!

    I am so happy you addressed this (and that you haven’t bolded the board today), I won’t even point out your typo.

  • Matthew S. | May 8, 2007 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”83276″][quote comment=”83269″]I mean this in the most non-whiny way, but why do all the links open in seperate windows now? They used to just open all in the same window, now I wind up opening 15 different ones. Can we go back to the old way?[/quote]

    Beacuase that’s the way Vince does his entries. Paul’s will still be in all the same window. I like Vince’s way better though because some links take time to load and I like to keep reading and click other links.[/quote]

    Regardless of who wrote the entry for the day, the links open in different pages for me 99% of the and I prefer it that way for the same reason Chad G. does. That being said, I think you can finagle some operating systems to open the links the way you prefer (like OS X or Firefox).

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”83137″][quote comment=”83093″]
    I’m a Mets fan and I definitely minded that the Yankees won. The Yankees are like the evil empire. I route for Boston in the socks/yanks series. I know people won’t like this, but I can’t consider someone a true fan if they have sympathy for the opponent.[/quote]
    That’s funny, cause whenever the Dodgers play the Mets, I route for the Dodgers.[/quote]
    And what “root” do you take to get to Shea? sorry, couldn’t resist. I really can’t root for anyone other than the Good Guys. I am happy for my friends if their team wins somehting and it isn’t at the expense of one of my teams. but I don’t openly root for anyone other than the Amazin’s.[/quote]

    I also said socks instead of sox…not enough caffine yet this morning.

  • Perry | May 8, 2007 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”83132″]Went to the Cards/Rox game last night. The Rox were wearing their black vest alts. These make no sense to me since the undershirt is also black. Why not just add black sleeves and be done with it, or better yet get rid of it all together.[/quote]

    Here here. I actually wrote to the team a couple of weeks ago and asked them to please stop wearing them, to try to show a little class and not wear any alts. “Do you want to be like the Yankees and Cardinals, or like the Marlins?” etc. Didn’t seem to help.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”83283″][quote comment=”83137″][quote comment=”83093″]
    I’m a Mets fan and I definitely minded that the Yankees won. The Yankees are like the evil empire. I route for Boston in the socks/yanks series. I know people won’t like this, but I can’t consider someone a true fan if they have sympathy for the opponent.[/quote]
    That’s funny, cause whenever the Dodgers play the Mets, I route for the Dodgers.[/quote]
    And what “root” do you take to get to Shea? sorry, couldn’t resist. I really can’t root for anyone other than the Good Guys. I am happy for my friends if their team wins somehting and it isn’t at the expense of one of my teams. but I don’t openly root for anyone other than the Amazin’s.[/quote]

    I also said socks instead of sox…not enough caffine yet this morning.[/quote]
    I noticed that too, but I’m not anal.

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 1:35 pm |

    You can “root” all you want for your other New York team, 85% of this state all know the Yankees own the entire state.

    Prove it.

    Yes I will agree that Yankees fans have a majority in NY, but not 85%. That might be the case for Yankees to Mets fans outside of the state. You have to realize that when the Giants and Dodgers left I doubt all the fans just blindly went to the dark side. The Mets have had a strong following from the begining because they were born only a few years after the exudus of the NL from NY.

  • Philly Bill | May 8, 2007 at 1:36 pm |

    To the Baltimorons who stuck up for Flop Hat Night, thanks hon.

    It was always a banner day for me to catch a game at Memorial Stadium (since the Vet was such a horrible place to watch baseball), and Flop Hat night was, in my adolescent opinion, the best game to attend.

  • Metsfan AZ | May 8, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”83281″][quote comment=”83266″][quote comment=”83260″]That’s funny, cause whenever the Dodgers play the Mets, I route for the Dodgers.[/quote]
    And what “root” do you take to get to Shea? sorry, couldn’t resist. I really can’t root for anyone other than the Good Guys. I am happy for my friends if their team wins somehting and it isn’t at the expense of one of my teams. but I don’t openly root for anyone other than the Amazin’s.[/quote]

    Damn, MetsfanAZ. You beat me to it, and you were funny about it!

    I am so happy you addressed this (and that you haven’t bolded the board today), I won’t even point out your typo.[/quote]
    Not only did I not bold the board. I undid the italics that someone else did. I’m ready to call Ek for a job.
    But, typos in an e-mail pointing out typos, sp, etc. are totally unacceptable. But damn funny.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”83287″]You can “root” all you want for your other New York team, 85% of this state all know the Yankees own the entire state.

    Prove it.

    Yes I will agree that Yankees fans have a majority in NY, but not 85%. That might be the case for Yankees to Mets fans outside of the state. You have to realize that when the Giants and Dodgers left I doubt all the fans just blindly went to the dark side. The Mets have had a strong following from the begining because they were born only a few years after the exudus of the NL from NY.[/quote]
    There is no proof, just sticking up for my Yanks as they get cut up 99.5% of the time in here, including by PL.

  • blt | May 8, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”83241″]>Oh yea, lets realign the entire NHL so Wings fans can catch the 9 pm news and go to bed early.

    Eastern Time cities should not be in Western Divisions, full stop.

    Worst promo giveaway: The Brewers gave away kids’ baseball gloves, “signed” by Robin Yount. Cheap vinyl things, but hey they’re free. The crappy thing was that the lefty glove was an exact mirror images, so we southpaws got stuck with reversed signatures. How insulting![/quote]

    I loved Brewers glove day. The gloves weren’t useful for little league or anything but I got a lot of mileage in the neighborhood with mine.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 1:39 pm |

    oh oh, that might’ve been me

  • Perry | May 8, 2007 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”83196″]Very first game I ever went to, Philadelphia at Cincinnati, August 1970, was ball day. Got my free baseball signed by Denny Doyle (rookie 2B with the Phils, he was from a nearby town and he knew us) and the immortal Ron Stone.
    [/quote]

    August 1970? You missed having your first-ever game be at Crosley Field by ONE MONTH, and had to go to Riverfront instead? That’s a crying shame.

  • James P. | May 8, 2007 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”83257″][quote comment=”83256″][quote comment=”83253″][quote comment=”83249″][quote comment=”83165″][quote comment=”83157″][quote comment=”83070″]This is a great bobblehead. For those of you who did not know Roy Oswalt was given a bulldozer last year by the Astros owner for being the NLDS MVP.[/quote]

    Why did he get a bulldozer?[/quote]
    I didn’t even know they awarded an MVP of the NLDS.[/quote]

    That’s the joke–there isn’t an NLDS MVP award. Several players, though, have incentives written into their contracts about this. I think Oswalt was just being rewarded by Drayton McLane for a good season, basically.[/quote]

    No, it was originally a typo. Oswalt was the NLCS MVP and the bulldozer was Drayton McClain’s award for his efforts in pitching the Astros to their first World Series (because god knows we didn’t hit our way into it…)[/quote]

    6 million dollars seems like enough of a reward to me![/quote]

    Are we really going to give a guy crap for receiving a gift from a grateful owner for putting his team (almost single handedly in game 6 of that NLCS) in the World Series for the first time in the team’s 42 year history?[/quote]

    They just wish they got a bulldozer for doing a good job…

  • stuby | May 8, 2007 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”83242″][quote comment=”83126″]I personally side with “stupid” for the SF rally hats. If it were a rally hat, the SF logo should be backwards (because the hat would be inside out), plus the brim is technically curved the wrong way. On top of all this, I think it’s just plainn ugly–hard to see anyone wearing this outside of the game it was distributed.[/quote]

    I agree. It reminds me of those hats that are designed to be worn backwards, with the main logo printed on the back. It’s unnatural. Besides, the best part of a rally cap is making it out of a regular hat.[/quote]
    …and this

  • Metsfan AZ | May 8, 2007 at 1:41 pm |

    geek squad to the rescue. But I bet it didn’t work

  • Minna H. | May 8, 2007 at 1:42 pm |

    Damn, MetsFanAZ, maybe I spoke too soon and posted too slowly.

    Who else is having the problem of a freezing computer where the words take forever to show up in the box?

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”83289″][quote comment=”83281″][quote comment=”83266″][quote comment=”83260″]That’s funny, cause whenever the Dodgers play the Mets, I route for the Dodgers.[/quote]
    And what “root” do you take to get to Shea? sorry, couldn’t resist. I really can’t root for anyone other than the Good Guys. I am happy for my friends if their team wins somehting and it isn’t at the expense of one of my teams. but I don’t openly root for anyone other than the Amazin’s.[/quote]

    Damn, MetsfanAZ. You beat me to it, and you were funny about it!

    I am so happy you addressed this (and that you haven’t bolded the board today), I won’t even point out your typo.[/quote]
    Not only did I not bold the board. I undid the italics that someone else did. I’m ready to call Ek for a job.
    But, typos in an e-mail pointing out typos, sp, etc. are totally unacceptable. But damn funny.[/quote]

    so how do the rest of us mortals close the tags that are left open. Especially by Yankees fans, like now ;)

  • Metsfan AZ | May 8, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    unbold?

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”83297″]Damn, MetsFanAZ, maybe I spoke too soon and posted too slowly.

    Who else is having the problem of a freezing computer where the words take forever to show up in the box?[/quote]

    That happens to me when I post from home, but not at work. I’m assuming it’s just an inferior internet connection.

  • Andy from KC | May 8, 2007 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”83102″][quote comment=”83098″][quote comment=”83076″]Last year when the Indians were in Cincy, they gave away John Deere themed Reds hats (I think Adam LaRoche John Deere hats) ):

    http://homepage.mac....

    Do you mean Adam Dunn or perhaps Jason LaRue?[/quote]

    Yeah, Jason LaRue. I knew there was a LA in there.[/quote]

    Wow … they had a promotion for JASON LaRUE?!!? I was all set to make fun of the Reds, but then I remembered that my team has giveaways for shitty players too, so I guess there’s nothing I can say.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”83298″][quote comment=”83289″][quote comment=”83281″][quote comment=”83266″][quote comment=”83260″]That’s funny, cause whenever the Dodgers play the Mets, I route for the Dodgers.[/quote]
    And what “root” do you take to get to Shea? sorry, couldn’t resist. I really can’t root for anyone other than the Good Guys. I am happy for my friends if their team wins somehting and it isn’t at the expense of one of my teams. but I don’t openly root for anyone other than the Amazin’s.[/quote]

    Damn, MetsfanAZ. You beat me to it, and you were funny about it!

    I am so happy you addressed this (and that you haven’t bolded the board today), I won’t even point out your typo.[/quote]
    Not only did I not bold the board. I undid the italics that someone else did. I’m ready to call Ek for a job.
    But, typos in an e-mail pointing out typos, sp, etc. are totally unacceptable. But damn funny.[/quote]

    so how do the rest of us mortals close the tags that are left open. Especially by Yankees fans, like now ;)[/quote]
    hey now, abra-cadabratest

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”83301″]unbold?[/quote]

    so fill us in Metsfan, how do you do it?

  • Metsfan AZ | May 8, 2007 at 1:44 pm |

    Thank you very much, not bad for a Finance major. And no, Minna that wasn’t me.

  • Leo | May 8, 2007 at 1:46 pm |

    egarding the NHL and its conference alignment; did many people complain when we used the old Wales/Campbell format? I don’t recall much whining. After all, in the Norris when I was growing up it was my North Stars against the hated Blackhawks (or Black Hawks, if you’re a history guy), Dead Things, Leafs, and the classic Bluenote, another ‘67 entry. Good division–always good when the Leafs were even worse than the NS and we limped into the playoffs with about 70 points, too!

    Toronto finally made its way into the east after two runs to the western conference finals (Gretzky in Gm7 at MLG in ‘93 was and is an epic event) but DET is still in the west. Too bad. You can only hope for teams to move or sprout up in KC, Vegas, and Portland to have any chance of going east.

    As a fan of Minnesota’s new team now, I can see where Detroiters can feel like it’s rough to be in the west. I live in the Eastern time zone now as well, so I know all about staying up late to see the Wild square off against VAN, EDM, and CGY.

    In fact, since those teams comprise the Northwest division with MIN, I have to stay up late more often than a DET fan whose division reaches no farther than the banks of the Mississippi…

    I’m not feeling much sympathy for you, Wings fans. You’ve got more Cups (unfortunately), you knocked the North Stars out of their last playoff appearance (1991-92), and you’re still in the playoffs (since ANA beat the Wild and I just don’t like DET, I’ll root for the GREAT Sabres–Let’s Go Buffalo!–or Ottawa to support my Canadian friends) you should just sit back and enjoy.

    Realignment can wait…and wait…and wait. Remember, the West has to retain SOME Original Six team–and it will be a couple of years before Chicago gets to be decent enough to merit that title again.

    Wow! This is a great argument that makes me miss the Norris so much. But that’s also half the point of the re-alignment problem for Wings fans. It’s not just that there are all those 10 p.m. games, but also that who are the Wings playing?

    A bunch of teams that nobody in Detroit cares about.

    You hit it on the head with Chicago. They’re a joke now that get outdrawn by the Wolves are are an insult to their rich heritage. The Wild are certainly not the mighty North Stars, playing the Blues is not the same since Brett Hull left, other than being from Ohio who cares about the Blue Jackets and Nashville is just a creepy city for hockey.

    In the East, Detroit would play four other Original Six teams and could build new rivalries with teams like Ottawa, Buffalo or New Jersey. Right now, with Colorado being a shell of its former self, the only real exciting game of the entire 2006-07 regular season was Detroit’s one game with the Maple Leafs.

    You said it very correctly though. Detroit can’t move without another team going into the West and with the NHL already bursting with too many teams, that won’t happen. So Detroiters will see these always long and exciting series with California teams that they don’t care about and Canada’s smaller franchises with rabid fan bases but isolated locations.

  • Metsfan AZ | May 8, 2007 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”83305″][quote comment=”83301″]unbold?[/quote]

    so fill us in Metsfan, how do you do it?[/quote]
    click on whatever the current tag problem is. backspace over the resulting “strong” or “em” then click it again leaving just a “close the tag” command. I know my geek speak might be a little jargonish but you get the point. What I need is a sarcasm tag, I would leave that open all the time.

  • Joe Drennan | May 8, 2007 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”83303″][quote comment=”83102″][quote comment=”83098″][quote comment=”83076″]Last year when the Indians were in Cincy, they gave away John Deere themed Reds hats (I think Adam LaRoche John Deere hats) ):

    http://homepage.mac....

    Do you mean Adam Dunn or perhaps Jason LaRue?[/quote]

    Yeah, Jason LaRue. I knew there was a LA in there.[/quote]

    Wow … they had a promotion for JASON LaRUE?!!? I was all set to make fun of the Reds, but then I remembered that my team has giveaways for shitty players too, so I guess there’s nothing I can say.[/quote]

    Well, since you’re a fan of the Royals, they have no choice but to have promotions of “shitty” players. Sorry, but it had to be said.

  • Joe | May 8, 2007 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”83288″]To the Baltimorons who stuck up for Flop Hat Night, thanks hon.

    It was always a banner day for me to catch a game at Memorial Stadium (since the Vet was such a horrible place to watch baseball), and Flop Hat night was, in my adolescent opinion, the best game to attend.[/quote]

    I don’t know if I should be happy for the shout out or pissed you called us Baltimorons.

    We don’t like that…especially coming from Filthydelphia! :)

  • Mike | May 8, 2007 at 1:48 pm |

    sorry about the bold. …wasn’t intentional

  • SaraJane | May 8, 2007 at 1:52 pm |

    This is only very marginally uni-related, but I was wondering if any other Uni-Watchers have Nintendo Wiis. I’ve made a couple Cardinals Miis hoping they’ll show up in Wii Baseball (thankfully the baseball cap is red!). If anyone wants to exchange Wii numbers for some Mii Parade action, post your Wii number. Mine is:

    4025 9911 2390 2430

  • Metsfan AZ | May 8, 2007 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”83314″]sorry about the bold. …wasn’t intentional[/quote]
    make that the last time.
    see, a perfect place for a sarcasm tag.

  • Andy from KC | May 8, 2007 at 1:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”83310″][quote comment=”83303″][quote comment=”83102″][quote comment=”83098″][quote comment=”83076″]Last year when the Indians were in Cincy, they gave away John Deere themed Reds hats (I think Adam LaRoche John Deere hats) ):

    http://homepage.mac....

    Do you mean Adam Dunn or perhaps Jason LaRue?[/quote]

    Yeah, Jason LaRue. I knew there was a LA in there.[/quote]

    Wow … they had a promotion for JASON LaRUE?!!? I was all set to make fun of the Reds, but then I remembered that my team has giveaways for shitty players too, so I guess there’s nothing I can say.[/quote]

    Well, since you’re a fan of the Royals, they have no choice but to have promotions of “shitty” players. Sorry, but it had to be said.[/quote]

    annnnd … THERE it is. Very original, and I only had to wait 6 posts for it. Nicely done.

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”83309″][quote comment=”83305″][quote comment=”83301″]unbold?[/quote]

    so fill us in Metsfan, how do you do it?[/quote]
    click on whatever the current tag problem is. backspace over the resulting “strong” or “em” then click it again leaving just a “close the tag” command. I know my geek speak might be a little jargonish but you get the point. What I need is a sarcasm tag, I would leave that open all the time.[/quote]

    huh, I’ve tried that a bunch of times, it never seems to work. Maybe you just have magic powers.

  • Richard | May 8, 2007 at 1:55 pm |

    I attended the Giants’ rally cap day — I collect hats (especially giveaway ones) so we had to go. Since people seem interested in the rally caps (both pro and con), I thought maybe people would want to get a closer look at mine:

    Rally Cap Photos

    The logo on the back is for Playstation, which sponsored the promotion.

    Of course, my all-time favorite cap giveaway was in Oakland in the first year of interleague play, when they gave out A’s-Giants split caps. Can you imagine this with Yankees-Mets or Cubs-White Sox?

  • Metsfan AZ | May 8, 2007 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”83318″][quote comment=”83309″][quote comment=”83305″][quote comment=”83301″]unbold?[/quote]

    so fill us in Metsfan, how do you do it?[/quote]
    click on whatever the current tag problem is. backspace over the resulting “strong” or “em” then click it again leaving just a “close the tag” command. I know my geek speak might be a little jargonish but you get the point. What I need is a sarcasm tag, I would leave that open all the time.[/quote]

    huh, I’ve tried that a bunch of times, it never seems to work. Maybe you just have magic powers.[/quote]
    that’s probably it. ;)

  • Joe Drennan | May 8, 2007 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”83317″][quote comment=”83310″][quote comment=”83303″][quote comment=”83102″][quote comment=”83098″][quote comment=”83076″]Last year when the Indians were in Cincy, they gave away John Deere themed Reds hats (I think Adam LaRoche John Deere hats) ):

    http://homepage.mac....

    Do you mean Adam Dunn or perhaps Jason LaRue?[/quote]

    Yeah, Jason LaRue. I knew there was a LA in there.[/quote]

    Wow … they had a promotion for JASON LaRUE?!!? I was all set to make fun of the Reds, but then I remembered that my team has giveaways for shitty players too, so I guess there’s nothing I can say.[/quote]

    Well, since you’re a fan of the Royals, they have no choice but to have promotions of “shitty” players. Sorry, but it had to be said.[/quote]

    annnnd … THERE it is. Very original, and I only had to wait 6 posts for it. Nicely done.[/quote]
    Like I said: it had to be said so I got it out of the way.

  • Joe Drennan | May 8, 2007 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”83319″]I attended the Giants’ rally cap day — I collect hats (especially giveaway ones) so we had to go. Since people seem interested in the rally caps (both pro and con), I thought maybe people would want to get a closer look at mine:

    Rally Cap Photos

    The logo on the back is for Playstation, which sponsored the promotion.

    Of course, my all-time favorite cap giveaway was in Oakland in the first year of interleague play, when they gave out A’s-Giants split caps. Can you imagine this with Yankees-Mets or Cubs-White Sox?[/quote]
    The Giants/A’s cap us ugly, but a unique suviner that I’d probably take home with me and put it on my desk at work.

  • Philly Bill | May 8, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”83312″][quote comment=”83288″]To the Baltimorons who stuck up for Flop Hat Night, thanks hon.

    It was always a banner day for me to catch a game at Memorial Stadium (since the Vet was such a horrible place to watch baseball), and Flop Hat night was, in my adolescent opinion, the best game to attend.[/quote]

    I don’t know if I should be happy for the shout out or pissed you called us Baltimorons.

    We don’t like that…especially coming from Filthydelphia! :)[/quote]

    I lived in Maryland for 5 years and grew up in Delaware, so I followed both the Phils and Orioles as a kid. It’s a term of endearment; no offense intended.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”83320″][quote comment=”83318″][quote comment=”83309″][quote comment=”83305″][quote comment=”83301″]unbold?[/quote]

    so fill us in Metsfan, how do you do it?[/quote]
    click on whatever the current tag problem is. backspace over the resulting “strong” or “em” then click it again leaving just a “close the tag” command. I know my geek speak might be a little jargonish but you get the point. What I need is a sarcasm tag, I would leave that open all the time.[/quote]

    huh, I’ve tried that a bunch of times, it never seems to work. Maybe you just have magic powers.[/quote]
    that’s probably it. ;)[/quote]
    here let me bold everything so we can try it.

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    Brady Quinn in his Riddle Revolution helmet at rookie camp. I also found it strange that Michael Griffin is wearing #10 at Titans camp. he obviously can’t wear this number as a DB, but it’s Vince Young’s number. Maybe because he is also from UT Vince wanted him to wear it for camp or something.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”83325″][quote comment=”83320″][quote comment=”83318″][quote comment=”83309″][quote comment=”83305″][quote comment=”83301″]unbold?[/quote]

    so fill us in Metsfan, how do you do it?[/quote]
    click on whatever the current tag problem is. backspace over the resulting “strong” or “em” then click it again leaving just a “close the tag” command. I know my geek speak might be a little jargonish but you get the point. What I need is a sarcasm tag, I would leave that open all the time.[/quote]

    huh, I’ve tried that a bunch of times, it never seems to work. Maybe you just have magic powers.[/quote]
    that’s probably it. ;)[/quote]
    here let me bold everything so we can try it.[/quote]
    ;)

  • todd krevanchi | May 8, 2007 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”83319″]
    when they gave out A’s-Giants split caps.[/quote]

    wow. that hat is brutal.

  • Philly Bill | May 8, 2007 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”83324″][quote comment=”83312″][quote comment=”83288″]To the Baltimorons who stuck up for Flop Hat Night, thanks hon.

    It was always a banner day for me to catch a game at Memorial Stadium (since the Vet was such a horrible place to watch baseball), and Flop Hat night was, in my adolescent opinion, the best game to attend.[/quote]

    I don’t know if I should be happy for the shout out or pissed you called us Baltimorons.

    We don’t like that…especially coming from Filthydelphia! :)[/quote]

    I lived in Maryland for 5 years and grew up in Delaware, so I followed both the Phils and Orioles as a kid. It’s a term of endearment; no offense intended.[/quote]

    Li’l Addendum: I’d still be an O’s fan if Angelos hadn’t run that organization into the dirt. I found myself caring less and less about them each season until it was all gone a few years ago.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled Uni Watching…

  • Metsfan AZ | May 8, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”83328″][quote comment=”83319″]
    when they gave out A’s-Giants split caps.[/quote]

    wow. that hat is brutal.[/quote]
    Couple of things, first – nice one to tie together giveaway caps with sportsfan bigamy. I bet that came in handy in 1989. second, it reminds me of the 2000 or so shots of brady quinn’s sister. Is she Mrs. OSU linebacker now?

  • Minna H. | May 8, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”83306″]Thank you very much, not bad for a Finance major. And no, Minna that wasn’t me.[/quote]

    MetsfanAz, you are the man. By the way, my last comment had to do with the italics, not the current bold problem, but I couldn’t get it posted in time. I guess my frozen computer syndrome is good for something.

  • jesse | May 8, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”83255″][quote comment=”83141″]The Pirates are also giving away a Homestead Grays jersey (I think it is a tshirt) and the various hats, etc they usually give out.

    http://pittsburgh.pi...

    It’s interesting that Pittsburgh is commemorating the Grays; the Nationals wore retro Grays jerseys for a home game against the Mets last year. I think the Mets wore the unis of the New York Cubans. The Grays played “home games” in both Pittsburgh and Washington.[/quote]

    They may have played a few games in Washington, but Homestead is in Pittsburgh.

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”83330″][quote comment=”83328″][quote comment=”83319″]
    when they gave out A’s-Giants split caps.[/quote]

    wow. that hat is brutal.[/quote]
    Couple of things, first – nice one to tie together giveaway caps with sportsfan bigamy. I bet that came in handy in 1989. second, it reminds me of the 2000 or so shots of brady quinn’s sister. Is she Mrs. OSU linebacker now?[/quote]
    I bet that jersey would look better on the floor..

  • Mike | May 8, 2007 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”83330″][quote comment=”83328″][quote comment=”83319″]
    when they gave out A’s-Giants split caps.[/quote]

    wow. that hat is brutal.[/quote]
    Couple of things, first – nice one to tie together giveaway caps with sportsfan bigamy. I bet that came in handy in 1989. second, it reminds me of the 2000 or so shots of brady quinn’s sister. Is she Mrs. OSU linebacker now?[/quote]
    You wrapped up today’s comments in one little nutshell, didn’t you? Brady Quinn, Cleveland, sportsfan bigamy (nice coin of phrase, btw),… We’re all done. We can go home now.

  • Minna H. | May 8, 2007 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”83330″][quote comment=”83328″][quote comment=”83319″]
    when they gave out A’s-Giants split caps.[/quote]

    wow. that hat is brutal.[/quote]
    Couple of things, first – nice one to tie together giveaway caps with sportsfan bigamy. I bet that came in handy in 1989. second, it reminds me of the 2000 or so shots of brady quinn’s sister. Is she Mrs. OSU linebacker now?[/quote]

    here you go.

    Maybe she wore a two-toned dress.

  • Brooks | May 8, 2007 at 2:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”83210″][quote comment=”83150″][quote comment=”83147″][quote comment=”83141″]The Pirates are also giving away a Homestead Grays jersey (I think it is a tshirt) and the various hats, etc they usually give out.

    http://pittsburgh.pi...
    Dude, August 16th…Styx in Concert!![/quote]

    “And he taught me that Styx was one of the greatest American rock bands and they only got a bad rap because most critics are cynical assholes.”[/quote]

    A Big Daddy reference?

    Someone should tell this guy Ruck Vaughn wore stirrups…and is wearing them wrong in the new DirecTV ads….

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Why would someone pay for repainted figures? They aren’t even good representations of the characters, the Jake Taylor is just Johnny Bench and Vaughn is just Eric Gagne.

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    stop eating my post?
    I hate is when sports sites get things blatently wrong. It’s your F-ing livelyhood for Christ’s sake.

    “No. 31. Derek Jeter, SS, Yankees, Age 33 (21)
    Karma isn’t on Jeter’s side these days. First, he lost the American League MVP to Morneau last year, even though he led to the Yankees to the pennant and led the league with an 80.5 VORP. Second, he seems to have taken the worst of his feud with Alex Rodriguez, as no-more-Mr.-Nice-Guy A-Rod hit as many home runs in April as Jeter had all of last season. Jeter was an overrated player for a long time, particularly on defense. Dare we say he’s underrated now?”

    Earth to SI, the Tigers represented the AL in the world series not the Yankees. Jeter led them to a first round playoff exit. How can you have the balls to call Jeter underrated yet blatently felate him using incorrect info.

  • Joey Guns | May 8, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”83330″][quote comment=”83328″][quote comment=”83319″]
    when they gave out A’s-Giants split caps.[/quote]

    wow. that hat is brutal.[/quote]
    Couple of things, first – nice one to tie together giveaway caps with sportsfan bigamy. I bet that came in handy in 1989. second, it reminds me of the 2000 or so shots of brady quinn’s sister. Is she Mrs. OSU linebacker now?[/quote]

    It’s a man, baby. She doesn’t do it for me at all.

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 2:29 pm |

    I hate is when sports sites get things blatently wrong. It’s your F-ing livelyhood for Christ’s sake.

    From SI.com

    “No. 31. Derek Jeter, SS, Yankees, Age 33 (21)
    Karma isn’t on Jeter’s side these days. First, he lost the American League MVP to Morneau last year, even though he led to the Yankees to the pennant and led the league with an 80.5 VORP. Second, he seems to have taken the worst of his feud with Alex Rodriguez, as no-more-Mr.-Nice-Guy A-Rod hit as many home runs in April as Jeter had all of last season. Jeter was an overrated player for a long time, particularly on defense. Dare we say he’s underrated now?”

    Earth to SI, the Tigers represented the AL in the world series not the Yankees. Jeter led them to a first round playoff exit.

    How can you have the balls to call Jeter underrated yet blatently felate him using incorrect info.

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 2:29 pm |
  • Joey Guns | May 8, 2007 at 2:30 pm |

    I have a few of these bat day bats laying around in my basement. They definitely used to give them out before the game. I think they stopped giving them out before the game in the 90’s, but I’m not sure. Just about every bat day promotion I see these days is for mini bats.

    http://keymancollect...

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 2:31 pm |

    I tried to link to the article describing the above, but everytime I try to comment using that link the post gets eaten. Its the SI article about Baseball’s 50 most valuable players.

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 8, 2007 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”83264″][quote comment=”83115″]Thanks, Vince. I have been griping about how the Indians’ batting helmets haven’t matched the blue jerseys ever since Paul had that color specialist interview (the funny chick that worked for Adidas, I think). If they can match the colors, why not make it happen? Can you imagine the Yankees looking like that? NO WAY! Their shit matches![/quote]

    yeah, their shit really matches.[/quote]

    Haha! Great retort to my “Spoke to soon” comment. I yield…

    But the Tribe’s blues not matching? Still terrible!!!

  • Tim D | May 8, 2007 at 2:43 pm |

    After Angels announcer Rex Hudler was busted in KC for pot a couple of years ago…the joke amongst all of us out here in Ca. was that the Angels next promotion should be “Rex Hudler Bobble-Head Bong ” night!…LOL

  • Dan | May 8, 2007 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”83312″][quote comment=”83288″]To the Baltimorons who stuck up for Flop Hat Night, thanks hon.

    It was always a banner day for me to catch a game at Memorial Stadium (since the Vet was such a horrible place to watch baseball), and Flop Hat night was, in my adolescent opinion, the best game to attend.[/quote]

    I don’t know if I should be happy for the shout out or pissed you called us Baltimorons.

    We don’t like that…especially coming from Filthydelphia! :)[/quote]

    Actually, the “Baltimoron” was in my original post defending the floppy! (When I was explaining Natty Boh to the non-crabcakers.)

  • jkads | May 8, 2007 at 2:55 pm |

    I think I would be a fan of this Cavs throwback:

    Wilkens in action

    More Cavs Jerseys

  • Dan | May 8, 2007 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”83329″][quote comment=”83324″][quote comment=”83312″][quote comment=”83288″]To the Baltimorons who stuck up for Flop Hat Night, thanks hon.

    It was always a banner day for me to catch a game at Memorial Stadium (since the Vet was such a horrible place to watch baseball), and Flop Hat night was, in my adolescent opinion, the best game to attend.[/quote]

    I don’t know if I should be happy for the shout out or pissed you called us Baltimorons.

    We don’t like that…especially coming from Filthydelphia! :)[/quote]

    I lived in Maryland for 5 years and grew up in Delaware, so I followed both the Phils and Orioles as a kid. It’s a term of endearment; no offense intended.[/quote]

    Li’l Addendum: I’d still be an O’s fan if Angelos hadn’t run that organization into the dirt. I found myself caring less and less about them each season until it was all gone a few years ago.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled Uni Watching…[/quote]

    I grew up an O’s fan…but have kind of had my interest in baseball fade (mainly because of Angelos & the last 10 years of “Oriole Magic”)

    I have a 2-year-old son. I took him to LIDS in the mall last weekend, and let him try on an O’s hat and a Nationals hat (We live right inbetween Balto & DC) while he looked in the mirror. So then I asked him…OK…which hat do you want. “O!” (“oh, crap,” I thought) Are you SURE? “O Daddy!” Do you realize what you’re signing on for here? “O!” I gave him the hat, and he slapped it on, and was as happy as he could be.

    We’re taking him to the O’s game AT Washington next weekend. Kind of cool that his first ballgame will be for BOTH local teams.

  • Doyler | May 8, 2007 at 2:55 pm |

    The Redskins gave away check book covers last year.
    Think about that one for a second!

    The Orioles give out tee shirts on tuesday home games this season. Erik Bedard tee tonight.

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 8, 2007 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”83299″][quote comment=”83220″][quote comment=”83170″]Gotta disagree on Chief Wahoo… I think he should go. I live in Cleveland and I think a grinning cartoon indian is insulting to native americans. I don’t really like the script “I” either. Why not return to one of the old hats with a “C” for Cleveland? Heck, they didn’t even start wearing Wahoo on their hats until 1986.
    [/quote]

    As a Native American from the Ohlone tribe …lighten up francis.

    I suppose Italians should be upset at Nintendo for Mario.[/quote]

    It’s just a dumb logo. I’ve got no problem with the name Indians and I’m not about to start some kind of parade of protest. I’m just giving my opinion (kind of like Paul doesn’t like purple). I think the team could come up with a better logo. I don’t understand the Wahoo lovers, who insist on hanging on to this goofy cartoon. I think, in fact, that an anti- “politically correct” backlash has affected better judgment and made their love of their little cartoon guy just a little strange, if you ask me. Teams change logos all the time. Why take a stand for Chief Wahoo? I don’t get it. People are offended by it, so why not get rid of it? I’ve heard the “fighting irish” leprechaun arguments before and the fact is nobody who is irish cares.[/quote]

    EXACTLY. Nobody who is Irish cares. MY POINT EXACTLY.

    There is clearly a very small portion of the population who is offended by Chief Wahoo and other similar team logos and/or names. It’s too bad that they are, and thus miss out on the pride of being depicted as noble, proud, and fierce warriors which is why these names and logos are chosen. If their race was viewed as nothing but a bunch of drunks or lazy asses (someone else’s stereotype, not mine!), they wouldn’t have these teams lining up to be their namesake.

    As one of the posts above points out, those of Native American descent need not be offended. It can be seen as a point of pride.

    There is no “right to not be offended” in this country. If everyone went around and never said anything that might bother a tenth of a percent of the population, we’d never accomplish anything. Most of the great art throughout history has offended someone. Loads of modern science has offended people. Rock ‘n’ roll offends a lot of people. The list goes on and on and on…

    If it bothers you that much, don’t patronize these organizations and leagues. Exercise your right to peaceably assemble at the gates (but don’t be surprised when I tell you to lighten up while they scan my ticket). Write a letter to team management and the commissioner of the sport. Just don’t expect us to bow to the VAST MINORITY because you don’t take something the way it is intended.

  • Joey Guns | May 8, 2007 at 3:05 pm |

    Anyone remember this blunder from 2006 regarding Orioles player Brian Roberts bobblehead looking a little darker than it should’ve?

    http://www.washingto...

    Also, anyone remember the Tom Cruise bobble couch?

    http://www.anti-scie...

  • Metsfan AZ | May 8, 2007 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”83335″][quote comment=”83330″][quote comment=”83328″][quote comment=”83319″]
    when they gave out A’s-Giants split caps.[/quote]

    wow. that hat is brutal.[/quote]
    Couple of things, first – nice one to tie together giveaway caps with sportsfan bigamy. I bet that came in handy in 1989. second, it reminds me of the 2000 or so shots of brady quinn’s sister. Is she Mrs. OSU linebacker now?[/quote]
    You wrapped up today’s comments in one little nutshell, didn’t you? Brady Quinn, Cleveland, sportsfan bigamy (nice coin of phrase, btw),… We’re all done. We can go home now.[/quote]
    Thanks Mike, some days I have it, most of the time i don’t. “sportsfan bigamy” is either directly from Bill Simmons or a paraphrase from his sports fan manifesto or something along those lines.

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 8, 2007 at 3:06 pm |

    I love the Cleveland Indians, and I picked up a deep and earnest respect and appreciation for Native American culture in the Boy Scouts. I don’t see how those clash.

    A cartoon is just that — a cartoon. Who finds Elmer Fudd offensive? Jimmy Neutron? Fat Albert? Come on…

  • Mark in Cincy | May 8, 2007 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”83303″][quote comment=”83102″][quote comment=”83098″][quote comment=”83076″]Last year when the Indians were in Cincy, they gave away John Deere themed Reds hats (I think Adam LaRoche John Deere hats) ):

    http://homepage.mac....

    Do you mean Adam Dunn or perhaps Jason LaRue?[/quote]

    Yeah, Jason LaRue. I knew there was a LA in there.[/quote]

    Wow … they had a promotion for JASON LaRUE?!!? I was all set to make fun of the Reds, but then I remembered that my team has giveaways for shitty players too, so I guess there’s nothing I can say.[/quote]
    isn’t Jason LaRue a Royal now?

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”83365″][quote comment=”83299″][quote comment=”83220″][quote comment=”83170″]Gotta disagree on Chief Wahoo… I think he should go. I live in Cleveland and I think a grinning cartoon indian is insulting to native americans. I don’t really like the script “I” either. Why not return to one of the old hats with a “C” for Cleveland? Heck, they didn’t even start wearing Wahoo on their hats until 1986.[/quote]

    As a Native American from the Ohlone tribe …lighten up francis.

    I suppose Italians should be upset at Nintendo for Mario.[/quote]

    It’s just a dumb logo. I’ve got no problem with the name Indians and I’m not about to start some kind of parade of protest. I’m just giving my opinion (kind of like Paul doesn’t like purple). I think the team could come up with a better logo. I don’t understand the Wahoo lovers, who insist on hanging on to this goofy cartoon. I think, in fact, that an anti- “politically correct” backlash has affected better judgment and made their love of their little cartoon guy just a little strange, if you ask me. Teams change logos all the time. Why take a stand for Chief Wahoo? I don’t get it. People are offended by it, so why not get rid of it? I’ve heard the “fighting irish” leprechaun arguments before and the fact is nobody who is irish cares.[/quote]

    EXACTLY. Nobody who is Irish cares. MY POINT EXACTLY.

    There is clearly a very small portion of the population who is offended by Chief Wahoo and other similar team logos and/or names. It’s too bad that they are, and thus miss out on the pride of being depicted as noble, proud, and fierce warriors which is why these names and logos are chosen. If their race was viewed as nothing but a bunch of drunks or lazy asses (someone else’s stereotype, not mine!), they wouldn’t have these teams lining up to be their namesake.

    As one of the posts above points out, those of Native American descent need not be offended. It can be seen as a point of pride.

    There is no “right to not be offended” in this country. If everyone went around and never said anything that might bother a tenth of a percent of the population, we’d never accomplish anything. Most of the great art throughout history has offended someone. Loads of modern science has offended people. Rock ‘n’ roll offends a lot of people. The list goes on and on and on…

    If it bothers you that much, don’t patronize these organizations and leagues. Exercise your right to peaceably assemble at the gates (but don’t be surprised when I tell you to lighten up while they scan my ticket). Write a letter to team management and the commissioner of the sport. Just don’t expect us to bow to the VAST MINORITY because you don’t take something the way it is intended.[/quote]

    had to fix that, it was starting to get on my nerves.

  • Joey Guns | May 8, 2007 at 3:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”83208″]Michigan and Michigan State wore pink during a softball game to raise awareness for breast cancer research[/quote]

    Yeah, somebody named Sammy posted some links yesterday.

    Here’s a priceless pic of the umpires with pink belts and wristbands: http://www.mgoblue.c...

    Here are the links:

    Saturday: http://www.mgoblue.c...

    Sunday:
    http://www.mgoblue.c...

  • Joe | May 8, 2007 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”83363″]
    We’re taking him to the O’s game AT Washington next weekend. Kind of cool that his first ballgame will be for BOTH local teams.[/quote]

    Great story! The most fun I had at a game last year was the O’s at the Nats…terrible stadium but it was a really good crowd! I was very surprised by it.

  • todd krevanchi | May 8, 2007 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”83374″]

    Sunday:
    http://www.mgoblue.c...

    i spent 4.5 years in undergrad. and 2 years in grad school.

    im no casanova but i spent plenty of time (usually after a thursday, friday or saturday night party) with co-eds at my schools.

    im quite familiar with the nocturnal behaviors of the female (college demographic and up).

    but can someone please explain to me what is going on in the above picture? because you see, what seems to be happening there has nothing to do with a college softball pregame huddle.

  • Mark in Cincy | May 8, 2007 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”83378″][quote comment=”83374″]

    Sunday:
    http://www.mgoblue.c...

    i spent 4.5 years in undergrad. and 2 years in grad school.

    im no casanova but i spent plenty of time (usually after a thursday, friday or saturday night party) with co-eds at my schools.

    im quite familiar with the nocturnal behaviors of the female (college demographic and up).

    but can someone please explain to me what is going on in the above picture? because you see, what seems to be happening there has nothing to do with a college softball pregame huddle.[/quote]
    thanks for putting that much more tactfully than I could have . . .

  • Philly Bill | May 8, 2007 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”83364″]The Redskins gave away check book covers last year. Think about that one for a second!

    The Orioles give out tee shirts on tuesday home games this season. Erik Bedard tee tonight.[/quote]

    Add the Rangers to the pile of Tuesday t-shirt promotioneers. The Rangers don’t give ’em away, though — they cost $2.

  • Mike | May 8, 2007 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”83370″]I love the Cleveland Indians, and I picked up a deep and earnest respect and appreciation for Native American culture in the Boy Scouts. I don’t see how those clash.

    A cartoon is just that — a cartoon. Who finds Elmer Fudd offensive? Jimmy Neutron? Fat Albert? Come on…[/quote]

    Hey, I just don’t like the logo. I mean, this is a Uni-watch forum isn’t it? Isn’t this where we give opinions on such trivial things as hats and socks and such?
    It’s a cartoon character. …kinda minor league IMHO. Baltimore got rid of their old Orioles bird, which seems to be the closest example I can think of. I wouldn’t want Elmer Fudd on my team’s hat but, no, it probably wouldn’t offend anyone. Now, if you put some of the old racial caricatures that WB and Disney have long since shelved on a team’s hat, there’d be hell to pay, no?

  • Adam | May 8, 2007 at 3:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”83364″]The Redskins gave away check book covers last year.
    [/quote]

    The White Sox have given out check book covers before. I know because I use one…

  • Jaye | May 8, 2007 at 3:48 pm |

    I’m a lifelong Braves fan who hated Chief Knockahoma and refuses to do that silly-a chant with arms chopping in the air. But to think of my club as a group of powerful warriors willing to give their all … that doesn’t bother me.

  • Joey Guns | May 8, 2007 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”83380″][quote comment=”83378″][quote comment=”83374″]

    Sunday:
    http://www.mgoblue.c...

    i spent 4.5 years in undergrad. and 2 years in grad school.

    im no casanova but i spent plenty of time (usually after a thursday, friday or saturday night party) with co-eds at my schools.

    im quite familiar with the nocturnal behaviors of the female (college demographic and up).

    but can someone please explain to me what is going on in the above picture? because you see, what seems to be happening there has nothing to do with a college softball pregame huddle.[/quote]
    thanks for putting that much more tactfully than I could have . . .[/quote]

    Yeah, that was very classy. I’m actually sort of surprised.

  • Jaye | May 8, 2007 at 3:55 pm |

    RE: Recent discussion of face masks in softball… check that one out (or have we already seen, discussed it?? So many posts that I can’t keep up.)
    http://www.mgoblue.c...

  • todd krevanchi | May 8, 2007 at 3:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”83370″]I love the Cleveland Indians, and I picked up a deep and earnest respect and appreciation for Native American culture in the Boy Scouts. I don’t see how those clash.

    A cartoon is just that — a cartoon. Who finds Elmer Fudd offensive? Jimmy Neutron? Fat Albert? Come on…[/quote]

    was just going to say that!

    i mean, there are cartoon charicatures used commercially all around us! colonel sanders, pep boys, mrs. butterworth.

    isnt a cartoon depiction sometimes just that? a cartoon depiction?

    if cartoon charicatures are offensive, then why do millions of people a year buy offensive imagery of themselves on the streets of major cities, at amusement parks AND at baseball stadiums?

    because ive seen thousands of artists who sit all day and do nothing but draw charicatures… of people of all races, ethnicites, religions and creeds.

    ive got 2 myself.

  • Jaye | May 8, 2007 at 3:56 pm |

    sorry, the link didn’t work, you have to flip through the gallery to find it.

  • tim b | May 8, 2007 at 3:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”83170″]Gotta disagree on Chief Wahoo… I think he should go. I live in Cleveland and I think a grinning cartoon indian is insulting to native americans. I don’t really like the script “I” either. Why not return to one of the old hats with a “C” for Cleveland? Heck, they didn’t even start wearing Wahoo on their hats until 1986.
    [/quote]

    for the record, chief has been on the hat and/or uniform for much, much longer than just 1986. i believe first on the hat in 1954, and he’s been on the uni itself for much longer than that, even prominently featured on the front of the jersey throughout the 60s.

  • warren thompson | May 8, 2007 at 3:58 pm |

    [/quote]
    There are no teams named the … Unicorns …. [/quote]

    The good folks in New Braunfels, Texas, just might pick a bone with you. They are quite proud of the New Braunfels High School Unicorns.

  • Perry | May 8, 2007 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”83310″][quote comment=”83303″][quote comment=”83102″][quote comment=”83098″][quote comment=”83076″]Last year when the Indians were in Cincy, they gave away John Deere themed Reds hats (I think Adam LaRoche John Deere hats) ):

    http://homepage.mac....

    Do you mean Adam Dunn or perhaps Jason LaRue?[/quote]

    Yeah, Jason LaRue. I knew there was a LA in there.[/quote]

    Wow … they had a promotion for JASON LaRUE?!!? I was all set to make fun of the Reds, but then I remembered that my team has giveaways for shitty players too, so I guess there’s nothing I can say.[/quote]

    Well, since you’re a fan of the Royals, they have no choice but to have promotions of “shitty” players. Sorry, but it had to be said.[/quote]

    It’s especially funny coming from a Royals fan, considering LaRue himself is now a Royal.

  • Joey Guns | May 8, 2007 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”83391″]sorry, the link didn’t work, you have to flip through the gallery to find it.[/quote]

    Are you referring to this?

    http://www.mgoblue.c...

    I hate the Michigan football team (all PSU alumni do), but I gotta say, I love the catcher’s mask:

    http://www.mgoblue.c...

  • Dan | May 8, 2007 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”83393″][/quote]
    There are no teams named the … Unicorns …. [/quote]

    The good folks in New Braunfels, Texas, just might pick a bone with you. They are quite proud of the New Braunfels High School Unicorns.[/quote]

    “It’s not a unicorn. It’s a horse with a sword on his head…and he guards my dreams” (Come on…ther’es got to be a couple Scrubs fans out there!!)

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 4:10 pm |

    i mean, there are cartoon charicatures used commercially all around us! colonel sanders, pep boys, mrs. butterworth.


    you forgot Aunt Jemima

  • Minna H. | May 8, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    “It’s just a cartoon” dosen’t cut it. It’s a grinning buffoon that is ugly even if it weren’t racially-based. To make matters worse, there is the whole chanting and chopping (yes, I know this is Atlanta) thing. You can’t tell me that most people actually give a damn about Native American culture when they are whooping away. The whole ‘noble warrior thing’ is also a stereotype in and of itself that is overly-propagated.

    You wouldn’t see a team with its logo being a stereotyped African American or a team called the Niggers, nor should there be. This isn’t any different.

    I admire Sir J.S. for being so blaise about it. However for those of you in the majority, it is easy to sit there and say, “Well, that shouldn’t be offensive” and get defensive if everyone doesn’t agree with you.

  • Jaye | May 8, 2007 at 4:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”83399″]i mean, there are cartoon charicatures used commercially all around us! colonel sanders, pep boys, mrs. butterworth.


    you forgot Aunt Jemima[/quote]

    Yeah, but at least AJ got a makeover a few years ago. She dropped some weight and ditched the bandana! Who says we’re not making progress … being sarcastic … I’m a black female.

  • Minna H. | May 8, 2007 at 4:15 pm |

    Apparently, getting on my high horse knocks my typing ability for a loop. The first sentence should read…”doesn’t cut it.” Let’s hope I din’t leave the bold on as well.

  • Minna H. | May 8, 2007 at 4:17 pm |

    Forget it. I can’t spell right now. I am done for the present.

  • Richard | May 8, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    Okay, I’ve found the giveaway of all time. Coming up August 8, the Giants are having Jewish Heritage Night, complete with a giveaway of a bobblehead of the “Rally Rabbi.”

    Paul definitely needs to see this.

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 8, 2007 at 4:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”83382″][quote comment=”83370″]I love the Cleveland Indians, and I picked up a deep and earnest respect and appreciation for Native American culture in the Boy Scouts. I don’t see how those clash.

    A cartoon is just that — a cartoon. Who finds Elmer Fudd offensive? Jimmy Neutron? Fat Albert? Come on…[/quote]

    Hey, I just don’t like the logo. I mean, this is a Uni-watch forum isn’t it? Isn’t this where we give opinions on such trivial things as hats and socks and such?
    It’s a cartoon character. …kinda minor league IMHO. Baltimore got rid of their old Orioles bird, which seems to be the closest example I can think of. I wouldn’t want Elmer Fudd on my team’s hat but, no, it probably wouldn’t offend anyone. Now, if you put some of the old racial caricatures that WB and Disney have long since shelved on a team’s hat, there’d be hell to pay, no?[/quote]

    If you don’t like the logo, that’s fine. There are a lot of logos I don’t like either. I just get annoyed by all those who say, “I’m offended! Change it now!”

  • patrick | May 8, 2007 at 4:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”83328″][quote comment=”83319″]
    when they gave out A’s-Giants split caps.[/quote]

    wow. that hat is brutal.[/quote]

    not as brutal as that uglyt chick who wore the half ND half OSU jersey…. yeah you know who im talking about …..

    http://www.nbcsports...

  • WVU Tom | May 8, 2007 at 4:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”83381″][quote comment=”83364″]The Redskins gave away check book covers last year. Think about that one for a second!

    The Orioles give out tee shirts on tuesday home games this season. Erik Bedard tee tonight.[/quote]

    Add the Rangers to the pile of Tuesday t-shirt promotioneers. The Rangers don’t give ’em away, though — they cost $2.[/quote]

    Yeah, I was at one of T-Shirt Nights (Markakis). Problem with T-Shirt Night?…Every one gets the same size. I got a shirt that’s way too tight, and my girl gets one that’s way too big.

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 8, 2007 at 4:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”83393″][/quote]
    There are no teams named the … Unicorns …. [/quote]

    The good folks in New Braunfels, Texas, just might pick a bone with you. They are quite proud of the New Braunfels High School Unicorns.[/quote]

    I stand corrected.

    And… ugh.

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | May 8, 2007 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”83409″]Forget it. I can’t spell right now. I am done for the present.[/quote]

    Yay.

  • Jordan | May 8, 2007 at 4:36 pm |

    pretty sweet shorts i was able to pick up from ebay

    anyone know a good, cheap, sneaker website online… denimandsole is pretty overpriced.

  • Jordan | May 8, 2007 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”83414″][quote comment=”83393″][/quote]
    There are no teams named the … Unicorns …. [/quote]

    The good folks in New Braunfels, Texas, just might pick a bone with you. They are quite proud of the New Braunfels High School Unicorns.[/quote]

    I stand corrected.

    And… ugh.[/quote]

    Same with the North Carolina School of Science and Math…

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”83418″]pretty sweet shorts i was able to pick up from ebay

    anyone know a good, cheap, sneaker website online… denimandsole is pretty overpriced.[/quote]

    zappos.com?

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”83406″][quote comment=”83399″]i mean, there are cartoon charicatures used commercially all around us! colonel sanders, pep boys, mrs. butterworth.


    you forgot Aunt Jemima[/quote]

    Yeah, but at least AJ got a makeover a few years ago. She dropped some weight and ditched the bandana! Who says we’re not making progress … being sarcastic … I’m a black female.[/quote]
    I never knew she went by “AJ”

  • patrick | May 8, 2007 at 4:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”83398″][quote comment=”83393″][/quote]
    There are no teams named the … Unicorns …. [/quote]

    The good folks in New Braunfels, Texas, just might pick a bone with you. They are quite proud of the New Braunfels High School Unicorns.[/quote]

    “It’s not a unicorn. It’s a horse with a sword on his head…and he guards my dreams” (Come on…ther’es got to be a couple Scrubs fans out there!!)[/quote]

    scrubs is one of my most favorite shows, I love Dr. Cox
    “oh my god, did you see what happened on americas fattest fatties? a 900 pound woman lost a pound and cried for 20 minutes”

  • Patrick | May 8, 2007 at 4:50 pm |

    Are we sure that isn’t Brady Quinn in a wig and bad eyeliner?

  • Broker75 | May 8, 2007 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”83400″]”It’s just a cartoon” dosen’t cut it. It’s a grinning buffoon that is ugly even if it weren’t racially-based. To make matters worse, there is the whole chanting and chopping (yes, I know this is Atlanta) thing. You can’t tell me that most people actually give a damn about Native American culture when they are whooping away. The whole ‘noble warrior thing’ is also a stereotype in and of itself that is overly-propagated.

    You wouldn’t see a team with its logo being a stereotyped African American or a team called the Niggers, nor should there be. This isn’t any different.

    I admire Sir J.S. for being so blaise about it. However for those of you in the majority, it is easy to sit there and say, “Well, that shouldn’t be offensive” and get defensive if everyone doesn’t agree with you.[/quote]

    The thing is, when I see the Tribe or Braves playing ball, I don’t think of it in the sense of racial images or whatever, I just see it as the Cleveland Indians Baseball Club and Atlanta Braves Baseball Club doing their thing, playing a game wearing their team colors and logo. It’s a sport, a game, not a political showdown.
    Maybe it’s just I’m not as sensitive as some people..and enjoy the sport and creativity of the uni

  • Joey Guns | May 8, 2007 at 4:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”83424″]Are we sure that isn’t Brady Quinn in a wig and bad eyeliner?[/quote]

    For a split second the first time I saw her, I thought she was hot. Ever since, I’ve been scratching my head saying “What was I thinking????” I think AJ Hawk (her husband) looks more feminine than her!

    http://www.themighty...

  • Johnny Bacardi | May 8, 2007 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”83293″][quote comment=”83196″]Very first game I ever went to, Philadelphia at Cincinnati, August 1970, was ball day. Got my free baseball signed by Denny Doyle (rookie 2B with the Phils, he was from a nearby town and he knew us) and the immortal Ron Stone.
    [/quote]

    August 1970? You missed having your first-ever game be at Crosley Field by ONE MONTH, and had to go to Riverfront instead? That’s a crying shame.[/quote]

    Yeah, I know. What can I say, I was 10 and didn’t have a choice!

  • Mike | May 8, 2007 at 5:00 pm |

    I’m a life-long Yankees fan and I hate the Mets, I never root for them.

    As for the contrasting blue in the Indians uniforms, I realized that too recently. I always thought the blue on their uniforms matched before they changed them in the early part of this decade. They should go back to the uniforms they released in 1994.

  • todd krevanchi | May 8, 2007 at 5:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”83420″][quote comment=”83418″]pretty sweet shorts i was able to pick up from ebay

    anyone know a good, cheap, sneaker website online… denimandsole is pretty overpriced.[/quote]

    zappos.com?[/quote]

    well, i’ll tell you what.

    as one of a handful of resident sneakerheads (mihalik, miguel, dpnation, and others), when it comes to buying sneakers, be it at a store, or online, go by this creed, “if its too good to be true, then it probably is.”

    there are more fakes on sale than authentic stuff (especially, af1’s, dunks, aj, bape).

    you are not going to find good, cheap.
    you will find
    good, regular priced
    good, over priced
    or
    fake, cheap

    spend the money to get a quality product.

  • Jaye | May 8, 2007 at 5:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”83421″][quote comment=”83406″][quote comment=”83399″]i mean, there are cartoon charicatures used commercially all around us! colonel sanders, pep boys, mrs. butterworth.


    you forgot Aunt Jemima[/quote]

    Yeah, but at least AJ got a makeover a few years ago. She dropped some weight and ditched the bandana! Who says we’re not making progress … being sarcastic … I’m a black female.[/quote]
    I never knew she went by “AJ”[/quote]

    It’s a little-known fact! Glad I could share some knowledge.

  • Mike | May 8, 2007 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”83426″][quote comment=”83400″]”It’s just a cartoon” dosen’t cut it. It’s a grinning buffoon that is ugly even if it weren’t racially-based. To make matters worse, there is the whole chanting and chopping (yes, I know this is Atlanta) thing. You can’t tell me that most people actually give a damn about Native American culture when they are whooping away. The whole ‘noble warrior thing’ is also a stereotype in and of itself that is overly-propagated.

    You wouldn’t see a team with its logo being a stereotyped African American or a team called the Niggers, nor should there be. This isn’t any different.

    I admire Sir J.S. for being so blaise about it. However for those of you in the majority, it is easy to sit there and say, “Well, that shouldn’t be offensive” and get defensive if everyone doesn’t agree with you.[/quote]

    The thing is, when I see the Tribe or Braves playing ball, I don’t think of it in the sense of racial images or whatever, I just see it as the Cleveland Indians Baseball Club and Atlanta Braves Baseball Club doing their thing, playing a game wearing their team colors and logo. It’s a sport, a game, not a political showdown.
    Maybe it’s just I’m not as sensitive as some people..and enjoy the sport and creativity of the uni[/quote]
    The site is called “Uni-Watch”. We’re talking uniforms.

  • Jordan | May 8, 2007 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”83433″][quote comment=”83420″][quote comment=”83418″]pretty sweet shorts i was able to pick up from ebay

    anyone know a good, cheap, sneaker website online… denimandsole is pretty overpriced.[/quote]

    zappos.com?[/quote]

    well, i’ll tell you what.

    as one of a handful of resident sneakerheads (mihalik, miguel, dpnation, and others), when it comes to buying sneakers, be it at a store, or online, go by this creed, “if its too good to be true, then it probably is.”

    there are more fakes on sale than authentic stuff (especially, af1’s, dunks, aj, bape).

    you are not going to find good, cheap.
    you will find
    good, regular priced
    good, over priced
    or
    fake, cheap

    spend the money to get a quality product.[/quote]

    any place in particular you suggest? i dont have any sort of local store that has the variety i’m looking for, so i think i’m stuck to the internet… that being said, when i did pick up my some air max 90s at footaction, a pair i had been eyeing on denimandsole for 140 wast there for 80…

  • Jaye | May 8, 2007 at 5:15 pm |

    The site is called “Uni-Watch”. We’re talking uniforms.[/quote]

    You’re right, and I’m still waiting to see comments on my first post of the day, #131, about the Willie Mays uni appraised at $60K to $80K. But manybe that’s chump change to some of you!

  • Andy from KC | May 8, 2007 at 5:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”83394″][quote comment=”83310″][quote comment=”83303″][quote comment=”83102″][quote comment=”83098″][quote comment=”83076″]Last year when the Indians were in Cincy, they gave away John Deere themed Reds hats (I think Adam LaRoche John Deere hats) ):

    http://homepage.mac....

    Do you mean Adam Dunn or perhaps Jason LaRue?[/quote]

    Yeah, Jason LaRue. I knew there was a LA in there.[/quote]

    Wow … they had a promotion for JASON LaRUE?!!? I was all set to make fun of the Reds, but then I remembered that my team has giveaways for shitty players too, so I guess there’s nothing I can say.[/quote]

    Well, since you’re a fan of the Royals, they have no choice but to have promotions of “shitty” players. Sorry, but it had to be said.[/quote]

    It’s especially funny coming from a Royals fan, considering LaRue himself is now a Royal.[/quote]

    Hence my surprise that LaRue was considered worthy of his own promotional giveaway.

  • Sir Jock Strap | May 8, 2007 at 5:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”83319″]I attended the Giants’ rally cap day — I collect hats (especially giveaway ones) so we had to go. Since people seem interested in the rally caps (both pro and con), I thought maybe people would want to get a closer look at mine:

    Rally Cap Photos

    The logo on the back is for Playstation, which sponsored the promotion.

    Of course, my all-time favorite cap giveaway was in Oakland in the first year of interleague play, when they gave out A’s-Giants split caps. Can you imagine this with Yankees-Mets or Cubs-White Sox?[/quote]

    That A’s-Giant cap is horrendous.

    Go A’s!

  • StevieW | May 8, 2007 at 5:22 pm |

    I was a big fan of the ice cream cup helmets when I was a kid. I tried collecting them from my local United Dairy Farmers back in ’80-82 probably. I am 35 now and remember bugging the shit out of the manager of the store (which is like a local 7-11 with and ice cream shop)about when the “new” helmets were going to come in, because a few teams may have switched or our store didn’t have them. I think between me and my older brothers, who I bugged the shit out of to lend me money, I finally got the whole set. I laugh now at the time and money spent, and stress i probably caused to the poor manager.
    When I moved out, I only took the Reds. Obviously I am considering ordering the set from the website listed above, but it’s just not the same.

  • Sir Jock Strap | May 8, 2007 at 5:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”83424″]Are we sure that isn’t Brady Quinn in a wig and bad eyeliner?[/quote]

    Brady Quinn with eyeliner is friggin hawt.

  • Thorold Blair | May 8, 2007 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”83393″][/quote]
    There are no teams named the … Unicorns …. [/quote]

    The good folks in New Braunfels, Texas, just might pick a bone with you. They are quite proud of the New Braunfels High School Unicorns.[/quote]

    Why do I have a feeling this a school for the performing arts?

  • Dan | May 8, 2007 at 5:43 pm |

    since people are commenting on chief wahoo(i know i’m way behind) i’ll put my two cents in. i like him. whenever i see him i think of cleveland. i don’t see how it can be insensitive to indians when its a FREAKING CARTOON! i hate the fact that the ncaa went after schools like illinois and north dakota. honestly when i hear “fighting illini” i think of illinois citizens, not indians. plus, i haven’t seen any of you go after the chicago blackhawks. how does the nickname of blackhawk negatively affect todays indians(other than them being terrible)? sorry i don’t see it, then again, i’m not the most politically-correct person there is.

  • Chad G | May 8, 2007 at 5:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”83439″]The site is called “Uni-Watch”. We’re talking uniforms.[/quote]

    You’re right, and I’m still waiting to see comments on my first post of the day, #131, about the Willie Mays uni appraised at $60K to $80K. But manybe that’s chump change to some of you![/quote]

    Actually I was gonna respond to that comment, but I somehow forgot. During the Giants-Mets game yesterday the Trivia question on the Giants broadcast was what minor league team did Willie Mays play on before getting the call-up to the Majors. And it was the Millers. Just thought that was an interesting coincidence considering your post.

  • dpnation | May 8, 2007 at 5:56 pm |

    [quote comment]
    I hate the Michigan football team (all PSU alumni do), but I gotta say, I love the catcher’s mask:
    http://www.mgoblue.c...

    As a former collegiate rower.. I love their oar design too.

  • Andy | May 8, 2007 at 6:07 pm |

    I can’t tell you how thrilled I’d be if the term “jerk off” never appeared in a blog post again. Ever. This phrase is, to me, much more irksome than the occasional “tool”, “not so much”, or “made me throw-up in my mouth”.

  • ACC (the Brain) | May 8, 2007 at 6:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”83362″]I think I would be a fan of this Cavs throwback:

    Wilkens in action

    More Cavs Jerseys[/quote]

    The 1983-1987 Cavs jerseys are my favorite b-ball unis of all time – especially the home version.

    I agree about the Cleveland Indians replacing Wahoo with the letter C.

    Anyone wearing a split A’s-Giants cap at the next Bay Bridge series should be ushered to the concourse and reprimanded.

  • stuby | May 8, 2007 at 6:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”83461″][quote comment=”83362″]I think I would be a fan of this Cavs throwback:

    Wilkens in action

    More Cavs Jerseys[/quote]

    The 1983-1987 Cavs jerseys are my favorite b-ball unis of all time – especially the home version.

    I agree about the Cleveland Indians replacing Wahoo with the letter C.

    Anyone wearing a split A’s-Giants cap at the next Bay Bridge series should be ushered to the concourse and reprimanded.[/quote]
    Man, check out the shorts the Cavs wore from 1981-83. They look like lady’s track outfits.

  • Wes Walz | May 8, 2007 at 6:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”83324″][quote comment=”83312″][quote comment=”83288″]To the Baltimorons who stuck up for Flop Hat Night, thanks hon.

    “Thanks hon?” Oh my goodness–classic.

    Kitchy regional sayings are part of what makes our country great. It definitely took some getting used to in the two times I’ve visited Balt. having someone you’ve never met before calling you “hon” since many consider that a term of endearment.

    Though I’m a Midwesterner (with the accoutrement biases and such), I’d have to say that Philly and Baltimore are both great places to watch a baseball game. I can only hope we Twins fans will end up with something remotely resembling the experience at the ballpark these two towns have. The plans for the new Twins stadium, if you’re interested, can be found here.

  • alex | May 8, 2007 at 6:51 pm |

    Looking at the Giants promotional schedule, I see that they are giving away NY GIANTS hats when they host the yankees later this year.

  • Jeag | May 8, 2007 at 7:20 pm |

    There was a pretty unorthodox giveaway at Miller Park this very morning. Surprised nobody’s brought it up yet…unless I missed it, in which case I guess I’m the asshole.

  • Madd Matt | May 8, 2007 at 7:22 pm |

    yanks/rangers game; pettitte going with the high socks…….

  • Sammy | May 8, 2007 at 8:06 pm |

    Re: Red Wings in Western Conference

    The NBA and NHL both have 30 teams, and the Pistons are in the East and Wings in the West. If the Wings were to switch to the East, where I do agree they should be, playing with all the old rivals, then teams would have to be added/moved to western cities without NHL teams: Salt Lake, maybe Seattle or Winnepeg could support teams. The NHL is highly concentrated along the Atlantic, but I can’t see the Capitals, Flyers, Islanders or Devils leaving. I would like to see the Wings in the East, but I think staying in the West would be best for the league.

  • Colin | May 8, 2007 at 8:33 pm |

    Hey,
    I know it’s not uni related, but does anyone have a good method to wash hats. I dont want to put it in the washer and was curious if anyone could help. It’s a new era 55/45 poly cotton stretch fit hat if that matters.

  • Dave A | May 8, 2007 at 8:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”83473″]There was a pretty unorthodox giveaway at Miller Park this very morning. Surprised nobody’s brought it up yet…unless I missed it, in which case I guess I’m the asshole.[/quote]

    Good one!

  • Dave A | May 8, 2007 at 9:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”83261″]Off the subject: This morning, while watching a past episode of Antiques Roadshow, they showed a 1951 Minneapolis Millers jersey worn by #28, Willie Mays. It was purchased for $50. The appraised value? $60,000-$80,000!!! What made it so special? A tear in the arm that was stitched up, likely proving that the Say Hey Kid actually played in it. SO … what’s in your closet? Better check!!!![/quote]

    I saw that Antiques Roadshow and thought it was neat that the pic with the tear matched it to Mays. That having been said, even though it’s crazy money to most people, if you compare prices of game worn jerseys of Hall of Famers, it’s not out of line.

    Me personally? Not a chance!

  • Sir Jock Strap | May 8, 2007 at 9:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”83461″][quote comment=”83362″]I think I would be a fan of this Cavs throwback:

    Wilkens in action

    More Cavs Jerseys[/quote]

    The 1983-1987 Cavs jerseys are my favorite b-ball unis of all time – especially the home version.

    I agree about the Cleveland Indians replacing Wahoo with the letter C.

    Anyone wearing a split A’s-Giants cap at the next Bay Bridge series should be ushered to the concourse and reprimanded.[/quote]

    Replacing Wahoo with the letter C?! That’s madness! Why don’t you just bring Joe Charboneau out of retirement? Call up Len Barker and Andre Thorton. Tell ’em we’re gittin the band back together.

    You people are spineless.

  • Sir Jock Strap | May 8, 2007 at 9:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”83400″]”It’s just a cartoon” dosen’t cut it. It’s a grinning buffoon that is ugly even if it weren’t racially-based. To make matters worse, there is the whole chanting and chopping (yes, I know this is Atlanta) thing. You can’t tell me that most people actually give a damn about Native American culture when they are whooping away. The whole ‘noble warrior thing’ is also a stereotype in and of itself that is overly-propagated.

    You wouldn’t see a team with its logo being a stereotyped African American or a team called the Niggers, nor should there be. This isn’t any different.

    I admire Sir J.S. for being so blaise about it. However for those of you in the majority, it is easy to sit there and say, “Well, that shouldn’t be offensive” and get defensive if everyone doesn’t agree with you.[/quote]

    Puhleeze.

    How am I in the majority? My people were driven to the point of extinction. I also think the Cleveland Indian logo is pretty cool. It’s a whole lot better than going to some hippy chick’s house and seeing a dream catcher made in hong kong hanging on her wall and listening to her talk about how she’s totally into native american culture.

    Look. we’re still around and we have a baseball team named after us. Great! They also have a funny lookin mascot. Great.

    What would suck is if the euro-invaders had their way and we were completely forgotten. It’s a lot better than cheering for the Cleveland Spiders …. wait a minute ….

  • Vince Grzegorek | May 8, 2007 at 9:29 pm |

    The ‘Jerk Off’ reference was a direct quote. Trust me, I would never dream of including it on my own, but to give due justice to the situation, I thought a direct quote was necessary and honest.

  • Will | May 8, 2007 at 9:44 pm |

    http://sportsillustr...

    Don’t know if this link has been posted yet, but it looks like Michael Griffin has taken VY’s #10 jersey in the Titans minicamp. Anyone else got any info on this? PL? Hmmmmm

  • Steve | May 8, 2007 at 10:27 pm |

    Ever since a trip to D.C. last weekend, the Mets seem to be wearing their “home” caps as batting practice caps, especially on the road. I noticed this on the telecast last week, but only today, with most of the Mets buzzing their hair off, could I get a photo.

  • Minna H. | May 8, 2007 at 11:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”83502″][quote comment=”83400″]”It’s just a cartoon” dosen’t cut it. It’s a grinning buffoon that is ugly even if it weren’t racially-based. To make matters worse, there is the whole chanting and chopping (yes, I know this is Atlanta) thing. You can’t tell me that most people actually give a damn about Native American culture when they are whooping away. The whole ‘noble warrior thing’ is also a stereotype in and of itself that is overly-propagated.

    You wouldn’t see a team with its logo being a stereotyped African American or a team called the Niggers, nor should there be. This isn’t any different.

    I admire Sir J.S. for being so blaise about it. However for those of you in the majority, it is easy to sit there and say, “Well, that shouldn’t be offensive” and get defensive if everyone doesn’t agree with you.[/quote]

    Puhleeze.

    How am I in the majority? My people were driven to the point of extinction. I also think the Cleveland Indian logo is pretty cool. It’s a whole lot better than going to some hippy chick’s house and seeing a dream catcher made in hong kong hanging on her wall and listening to her talk about how she’s totally into native american culture.

    Look. we’re still around and we have a baseball team named after us. Great! They also have a funny lookin mascot. Great.

    What would suck is if the euro-invaders had their way and we were completely forgotten. It’s a lot better than cheering for the Cleveland Spiders …. wait a minute ….[/quote]

    I just want to clarify that I know you aren’t in the majority. I wrote that poorly, and I am glad to hear your opinion.

    I also want to apologize for going off because this is a uniform board and not a political board. I will try to keep that in mind in the future.

  • Johnny O | May 8, 2007 at 11:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”83475″]yanks/rangers game; pettitte going with the high socks…….[/quote]
    Dave Bush of the Crew also wore high socks today while on the mound, but for him it isn’t out of the ordinary. What was out of the ordinary is that I think they were a different shade of blue that he had worn before. I will try to get pics.

  • BJ | May 8, 2007 at 11:39 pm |

    Grady Sizemore is going to be on the cover of SI, and he’s in a batting motion, but he’s wearing a hat (and batting gloves as well)

  • =bg= | May 9, 2007 at 12:11 am |

    Mets are in town tonight @ The Big Phone. Paul’s right, that black is awful.

  • =bg= | May 9, 2007 at 12:15 am |

    [quote comment=”83444″]I was a big fan of the ice cream cup helmets when I was a kid. I tried collecting them from my local United Dairy Farmers back in ’80-82 probably. I am 35 now and remember bugging the shit out of the manager of the store (which is like a local 7-11 with and ice cream shop)about when the “new” helmets were going to come in, because a few teams may have switched or our store didn’t have them. I think between me and my older brothers, who I bugged the shit out of to lend me money, I finally got the whole set. I laugh now at the time and money spent, and stress i probably caused to the poor manager.
    When I moved out, I only took the Reds. Obviously I am considering ordering the set from the website listed above, but it’s just not the same.[/quote]

    Ah yes, I remember them well. My favorite UDFs were in Milford on Route 28, and I think Montgomery near Chester’s Roadhouse. I had a ton of those helmets! Yes, I was ALL over that manager! HA!

  • Brendan | May 9, 2007 at 2:03 am |

    Taking a look at the A’s promotion schedule, there are exactly 0 giveaways that make me want to go to the game, and one (Dog Day) that makes me want to skip that game. I went to it last year without knowing, and had to leave early (I’m allergic to dogs).

    The only thing that might conceivably be fun is the DARE day game with fireworks, if only for the irony that about a quarter of the stadium gets blitzed out of their minds before the fireworks.

  • Brian | May 9, 2007 at 3:21 am |

    I think somebody let their HTML get out of hand. Hopefully I can fix it. It’s weird having the whole comment area turn bold.

  • Sage Confucius | May 9, 2007 at 4:38 am |

    OMG! Even the football?!?

  • dgc | May 9, 2007 at 7:55 am |

    [quote comment=”83484″]Re: Red Wings in Western Conference

    The NBA and NHL both have 30 teams, and the Pistons are in the East and Wings in the West. If the Wings were to switch to the East, where I do agree they should be, playing with all the old rivals, then teams would have to be added/moved to western cities without NHL teams: Salt Lake, maybe Seattle or Winnepeg could support teams. The NHL is highly concentrated along the Atlantic, but I can’t see the Capitals, Flyers, Islanders or Devils leaving. I would like to see the Wings in the East, but I think staying in the West would be best for the league.[/quote]

    When the Pens looked like they might leave for KC, there was much rejoicing among Caps fans that maybe the Pens leaving would allow the Caps to rejoin our natural mid-Atlantic rivals. Although I guess in that scenario you would need Nashville to move to the SE before Detroit can return east.

  • Skycat | May 10, 2007 at 1:19 am |

    Speaking about non-matching blue helmets and jerseys, I think you’ll find that with the football Giants. The helmets appear to be much darker than the jerseys.

  • matt1977 | May 10, 2007 at 9:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”83076″]the Indians hats and batting helmets used to match, until they decided to lighten the blue of the hats a few years ago- they also made Chief Wahoo smaller at that time and put a silver border around him. I think it was the same year they introduced the script I hat. You know, the hat you never see anyone except team members and ushers wearing.

    Actually, the script “I” debuted in 2002 with the vest jerseys…The lighter blue/smaller wahoo came in 03…The hats used to be the same color as Bostonor New York…Script I in dark navy was a one year hat…like the A’s all green and white A…

    Last year when the Indians were in Cincy, they gave away John Deere themed Reds hats (I think Adam LaRoche John Deere hats) They went over big with the Reds crowd. You can see s few of them in teh crowd here (sorry, its a huge pic):

    http://homepage.mac....

  • matt1977 | May 10, 2007 at 11:48 pm |

    Actually, the script “I” debuted in 2002 with the vest jerseys…The lighter blue/smaller wahoo came in 03…The hats used to be the same color as Bostonor New York…Script I in dark navy was a one year hat…like the A’s all green and white A…

    Sorry-
    Not sure what happened

  • Mike | May 11, 2007 at 9:32 am |

    [quote comment=”83498″][quote comment=”83461″][quote comment=”83362″]I think I would be a fan of this Cavs throwback:

    Wilkens in action

    More Cavs Jerseys[/quote]

    The 1983-1987 Cavs jerseys are my favorite b-ball unis of all time – especially the home version.

    I agree about the Cleveland Indians replacing Wahoo with the letter C.

    Anyone wearing a split A’s-Giants cap at the next Bay Bridge series should be ushered to the concourse and reprimanded.[/quote]

    Replacing Wahoo with the letter C?! That’s madness! Why don’t you just bring Joe Charboneau out of retirement? Call up Len Barker and Andre Thorton. Tell ’em we’re gittin the band back together.

    You people are spineless.[/quote]
    I don’t understand what is “spineless” about disliking the little cartoon guy. What is so sacred about him? …and if a cartoon is not really a big deal, as some have suggested, then it’s not really a big deal to replace him with a “C” or an “I”, or whatever, no? Who are these Wahoo lovers and why do you love him so?

  • Ilana Hardesty | May 11, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    Vince, this comment is a little late, but the info just came to my attention. Talk about a give-away: This past Tuesday in Milwaukee:
    May 8 vs. Washington – 7:05 PM
    Free Prostate Cancer Screenings
    7:00am – 3:00pm – Free Prostate Cancer Screenings at Miller Park (northeast corner of ballpark near Friday’s). All men who receive a Prostate Cancer Screening that day will receive two free tickets to a future Milwaukee Brewers game. No appointment necessary. Free and Confidential.
    Sponsored by Froedtert & the Medical College of Wisconsin

  • DrBear | May 11, 2007 at 3:13 pm |

    Wouldn’t the Wilt Chamberlain uniform cameo be more appropriate as a “never happened” instead of a “late career” one? He never got to play for the Conquistadors (or as headline writers preferred, the Q’s) because the Lakers basically said “read your contract.” However, the contract didn’t say anything about coaching.