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Old Joy

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New ESPN column today — here’s the link.

Meanwhile: I want to use today’s post to catch up on some history-related items I’ve been meaning to cover, beginning with a web site that several readers have pointed out to me: Antique Athlete. It’s basically a bunch of pricey memorabilia, but the photos are a gold mine of old-school uni goodness, including plenty of killer examples from the worlds of baseball (here, here, here, and here), football (here, here, here, here, here, and here), basketball (here, here, here, and here), and hockey (here and here). Plus there’s old advertising, a truly amazing series of mascot-based bobbleheads (here, here, here, and here), some old pennants — even a pennant pillow! Have fun poking around, and let us all know if you buy anything.

Speaking of old uniforms, last month I wrote an entry about baseball in Alaska. It included a link to this photo, showing a player getting ready for the annual Midnight Sun Game, played at night, without lights, on the longest day of the year. Now longtime Uni Watch supporter Doug Brei has provided some additional info and photos about the Midnight Sun Game phenomenon:

The Midnight Sun Game is still alive and well, and recently celebrated its 100th anniversary. It’s still played every year in Fairbanks, under the natural light of the sun (they’ve never turned the lights on for a Midnight Sun Game), between the Alaska Goldpanners ABL team and a team from the “Lower 48.” They begin the game at 10:30 p.m. each year on the day of the summer solstice. At midnight, they stop the game and everyone stands up and sings the “Alaska Flag Song,” Alaska’s official state song.

Here’s a recent article on the Midnight Sun Game, along with an article about the 1906 game. And here are some photos from the 1908, 1933, and 1949 games.

Brei also shed some light on another item from that original Alaska entry. As you may recall, it included a link to this photo, whose caption said it was an “indoor baseball” team. Indoor baseball was a new concept for me, so I asked if anyone knew more about it.

Several people offered bits of information in that day’s comments section. But Brei has now provided the most complete account: “Indoor baseball was big enough in the first two decades of the century that Spalding actually published official guides on it,” he wrote. He also provided the following excerpt from the 1903 guide, which explains some of the game’s interesting equipment-related nuances:

The game of indoor base ball was invented in Chicago in 1887, and came about through a frolic among the members of the Farragut Club, who, in a spirit of fun on Thanksgiving day of that year, threw an ordinary boxing glove around the hall, which was struck at by one of the boys with a broom. Some twenty members had assembled, as usual on holidays, and George W. Hancock, seeing the possibility of a new sport, said in a bantering way: “Say, boys, let’s play base ball,” and the wrestling mat was hauled around cornerwise and a broom obtained. One of the boxing gloves was used for a ball, and, with the boys in position, they commenced their sport without rule or wisdom, but there was great fun. … It was thus that Mr. Hancock gained the title of “Father of Indoor Base Ball,” for he went home and thought out some rules that would equalize the different points of the game and directed Augustus J. White how to make a ball which could be seen at night and fill all the requirements of the game. And so the sport was evolved.

Raffle Reminder: Today’s the last day to enter the raffle for the David Wright batting practice jersey. If you want in, send an e-mail (one entry per person) to uniraffle at earthlink dot net by 9 p.m. eastern tonight. I’ll announce the winner on Monday.

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Uni Watch Midwestern Road Trip: I’m tentatively planning to be in Minneapolis on May 11th and Chicago on May 12th, and I’m looking forward to convening Uni Watch gatherings in both cities. The Twin Cities confab will take place at the always wonderful Nye’s Polonaise Room (figure on 7:30ish, but I’ll firm up the details when we get closer to the actual date); haven’t yet settled on a venue for the Chicago gathering — stay tuned.

It also looks like I’ll be in St. Louis in the near future. More details to follow soon.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Good site here breaking down the 2007 MLS uniforms. … Also from yesterday: Case Western’s uniform and logo style guide is available in this PDF file — highly recommended. … Richard Craig notes that Philip Rivers was doing a bit of mix-and-match uni action while throwing out the first pitch at a recent Padres game. … Personally, I’m OK with all the players and teams that will be wearing No. 42 this Sunday. But if you think the whole thing has gotten out of hand, you’re not alone. … UMich-centric version of Uni Watch (or at least that’s how the authors describe it) here.

 

181 comments to Old Joy

  • Justin | April 13, 2007 at 8:02 am |

    Ok, if an entire team is choosing to wear 42 that’s one thing, but why the hell is Eric Byrnes wearing number 42? That’s just rediculous.

  • Natron | April 13, 2007 at 8:15 am |

    Good call on Nye’s.

  • Lake | April 13, 2007 at 8:15 am |

    [quote comment=”69736″]Ok, if an entire team is choosing to wear 42 that’s one thing, but why the hell is Eric Byrnes wearing number 42? That’s just rediculous.[/quote]
    Why not? Why can’t players of all races, creeds and colors have the opportunity to appreciate the importance of what Jackie Robinson did and stood for? Don’t get me wrong, I hate Eric Byrnes and his “I dive for everything even though I don’t have to” bullshit nonsense, but I won’t hate on him for this.

  • Stuby | April 13, 2007 at 8:15 am |

    [quote comment=”69736″]Ok, if an entire team is choosing to wear 42 that’s one thing, but why the hell is Eric Byrnes wearing number 42? That’s just rediculous.[/quote]
    This has been opened up to any player who wants to participate. Why should only the African-American players be allowed to honor Jackie Robinson?

  • The Ol Goaler | April 13, 2007 at 8:20 am |

    Those pictures of mascot-centric bobbleheads brought back fond memories of my childhood… I once owned a Cardinals bobblehead; an “updated” version of the one pictured, featuring a red hat (introduced in 1964) and the familiar “Birds on the Bat” logo. I showed a precocious uni-fixation by making a small #9 and a “Joe T.” nameplate to honor one of my favorite Cards at the time… Joe Torre!

  • Adam in Chicago | April 13, 2007 at 8:20 am |

    I have one of those Cardinals bobbleheads sitting just a few feet from me as I type this! My Grandpa gave it to me a while back; he got it on a special giveaway day at old Sportsmans’ Park in 1963.

    I had no idea it was worth so much…

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | April 13, 2007 at 8:23 am |

    Paul,

    Looking forward to a DC visit. Anything planned???

  • Paul Lukas | April 13, 2007 at 8:25 am |

    [quote comment=”69745″]Paul,

    Looking forward to a DC visit. Anything planned???[/quote]

    I’ll do a DC/Balty visit at some point later this year, for sure.

  • The Ol Goaler | April 13, 2007 at 8:30 am |

    [quote comment=”69742″][quote comment=”69736″]Ok, if an entire team is choosing to wear 42 that’s one thing, but why the hell is Eric Byrnes wearing number 42? That’s just rediculous.[/quote]
    This has been opened up to any player who wants to participate. Why should only the African-American players be allowed to honor Jackie Robinson?[/quote]
    It strikes me that baseball is the only sport where one could even consider allowing an entire team to wear the same uniform number… after all, numbers weren’t even used as recently as the 1920’s. (I forget when the Yankees introduced the uni number, but I’m sure someone here will know.)

    Sadly, Larry Doby (the first African-American in the American League) is being overlooked again; although the Indians will all wear his #14 on the 60th anniversary of his MLB debut.

    As long as people remember why Robinson and Doby’s entrance into Major League Baseball was (and is) important, I applaud as many players and teams wearing Jackie’s #42 as possible.

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | April 13, 2007 at 8:32 am |

    Why wouldn’t Eric Byrnes want to honor Jackie Robinson? Why wouldn’t ANYONE want to honor Jackie Robinson? I suspect that the reason that all of this “42” business has gotten out of hand, according to Torii Hunter and other MLB players, is that a lot of the guys were fighting to be the one who had the honor of donning no. 42.

    Thank God for Jackie Robinson. Without him, we might have missed out on seeing so many great non-white players – Hank Aaron, Ozzie Smith, Frank Robinson, Willie Mays, Albert Pujols, Barry Bonds, Dave Parker, Willie Stargell, Dave Stewart, Kirby Puckett, and my personal favorite, the great Carlos Baerga. How many Josh Gibsons did we miss out on? So sad…

  • Joe | April 13, 2007 at 8:35 am |

    [quote comment=”69746″][quote comment=”69745″]Paul,

    Looking forward to a DC visit. Anything planned???[/quote]

    I’ll do a DC/Balty visit at some point later this year, for sure.[/quote]

    I MUST be informed of this…Paul, I’m getting married on Oct. 13th, so make sure it doesn’t happen then!!!

  • Joe | April 13, 2007 at 8:41 am |

    Can I suggest a meeting at Sports Legends at Camden Yards if you come? I hear it’s like a mini hall of fame. I’m ashamed to say I haven’t gone yet.

    Anyone on here been yet? Do they have good uniform exhibits?

  • Kevin from Ohio in Virginia | April 13, 2007 at 8:44 am |

    Yeah, don’t miss it. It’s AWESOME!

  • Stuby | April 13, 2007 at 8:45 am |

    I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.

  • Johnny O | April 13, 2007 at 8:51 am |

    There are going to be Uni Watch parties in ‘Sota, Chicago, and St. Louis… but no visit to Brew City or Mad Town?? I am slightly disappointed, but I’ll get over it. Maybe I will just have to trek down the 100 miles to the Windy City.

  • Paul Lukas | April 13, 2007 at 8:53 am |

    [quote comment=”69758″]There are going to be Uni Watch parties in ‘Sota, Chicago, and St. Louis… but no visit to Brew City or Mad Town??[/quote]

    I did a Milwaukee party back in August…

  • Natron | April 13, 2007 at 8:54 am |

    [quote comment=”69757″]I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.[/quote]

    *cringe* Never liked them. A few years back (maybe more than a few), my Babe Ruth ball team was named the “Commonwealth Electric Expos”, and our uniforms had the exact styling of those Montreal uniforms – 2 thick stipes down the legs and shoulders, team name/logo on the left, numbers on the right, etc. Exactly the same except for the colors. Of course, the colors were
    the same as our company sponsor which were… brown and yellow. Ugh. It was horrible.

    The 1st of the two years I played, they actually went the extra ugly mile and had us wear yellow sanitaries with brown stirrups, fortunately, the 2nd year we went with white sanitaries and brown stirrups.

    I think I have a team pic laying around, maybe I can scan it so that the atrocity can be seen, but I’ll refuse to identify myself – I’m trying to leave those days behind me!

  • Nicholas Maibroda | April 13, 2007 at 9:01 am |

    [quote comment=”69757″]I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.[/quote]
    Please don’t remind me of ‘Nos Amours’, aka the Expos. I live in Montreal and was one of the few fans who went to the stadium on a regular basis to see MLB at a ridiculous cheap price (as low as $5 CDN, usually around $8 CDN with a sit anywhere policy) Right now, it is snowing/raining with no promise of any type of baseball played with wooden bats. The closest place to watch a game are AAA Ottawa Lynx and Short Season A ball in Vermont, which has a beautiful ballpark. Take advantage of your local ball clubs.

  • Shane S. | April 13, 2007 at 9:05 am |

    See you at Nyes, Paul. You are very brave entering the heart of Purple Country, but Northeast Minneapolis is a great spot to have a beer. There’s lots of nice little hole-in-the-wall bars here, not all of them Polish. Psycho Suzi’s is a trip too, great pizza and atmosphere. And you may even see a few Packer fans running around to help balance out all that dreadful purple!

  • Kim | April 13, 2007 at 9:07 am |

    [quote comment=”69763″][quote comment=”69757″]I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.[/quote]
    Please don’t remind me of ‘Nos Amours’, aka the Expos. I live in Montreal and was one of the few fans who went to the stadium on a regular basis to see MLB at a ridiculous cheap price (as low as $5 CDN, usually around $8 CDN with a sit anywhere policy) Right now, it is snowing/raining with no promise of any type of baseball played with wooden bats. The closest place to watch a game are AAA Ottawa Lynx and Short Season A ball in Vermont, which has a beautiful ballpark. Take advantage of your local ball clubs.[/quote]

    At least Montreal retained custody of Youppi!

    He’s infinitely better than the malformed chicken that the Nationals have.

  • Adam in Chicago | April 13, 2007 at 9:11 am |

    A few suggestions for where to meet up in Chicago; granted all are in the Lincoln Park/Lakeview area, but that’s where I live:

    The Black Rock (on Damen Ave)
    The Red Lion (Lincoln & Fullerton)
    Rose’s (Lincoln & Wrightwood)
    The Charleston (on Hoyne)

    In St. Louis (where I’m originally from), I strongly suggest O’Connell’s Pub on Shaw & Kingshighway, just south of I-44. Great atmosphere, a fantastic house ale, and possibly the best burgers in the world.

  • Pat(Chicago) | April 13, 2007 at 9:12 am |

    For your Chicago visit, I recommend Goose Island’s Wrigleyville brew pub. Nice pub, locally brewed beer, in the shadow of a classic ball park.
    http://www.gooseisla...

  • Stuby | April 13, 2007 at 9:16 am |

    [quote comment=”69763″][quote comment=”69757″]I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.[/quote]
    Please don’t remind me of ‘Nos Amours’, aka the Expos. I live in Montreal and was one of the few fans who went to the stadium on a regular basis to see MLB at a ridiculous cheap price (as low as $5 CDN, usually around $8 CDN with a sit anywhere policy) Right now, it is snowing/raining with no promise of any type of baseball played with wooden bats. The closest place to watch a game are AAA Ottawa Lynx and Short Season A ball in Vermont, which has a beautiful ballpark. Take advantage of your local ball clubs.[/quote]
    The tri-color hat, the bizarre logo, the powder blues, button-up jerseys in the pullover era. Perfection.

  • Adam in Chicago | April 13, 2007 at 9:18 am |

    [quote comment=”69768″]For your Chicago visit, I recommend Goose Island’s Wrigleyville brew pub. Nice pub, locally brewed beer, in the shadow of a classic ball park.
    http://www.gooseisla...

    Also a good suggestion, and literally a half-block from Wrigley.

  • Tim | April 13, 2007 at 9:26 am |

    Barry Bonds Blows

  • Teebz | April 13, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    Minna, get your beer-drinking self ready. I am planning a Minneapolis trip for that weekend.

    Speaking of which, Paul, The Twins play Detroit that night at the Metrodomeon the 11th. It would be awesome to sit with THE MAN at a game featuring the classic Tigers uniform and the Twins and their pinstripes.

    Thoughts?

  • jay | April 13, 2007 at 9:38 am |

    Very Baggy Uniform Sighting

    Last night while flipping through channels – National vs. Braves, nationals pitcher Colome, #43, was wearing a very oversized uniform, both jersey and pants. You could not see the belt because the jersey overhang was so extreme, but it must have been there because the pants would not have been able to defy gravity without a functional belt.

    Maybe this was a uniform choice based on performance – it is hard to see the release point when it is a gray blob making the pitch.

    Or, maybe this was a need for comfort due to an all over skin rash?

    Or, maybe lost luggage?

    Or, maybe this was a fashion look-at-me statement?

    Whatever the reason, the baggy trend seems to be picking up steam. Sorry, no photos.

  • Mark in Cincy | April 13, 2007 at 9:39 am |

    Imagine my surprise to see this decanter on Uni Watch . . . it graces the top of my entertainment cabinet at home, right behind the miniature replica of the Horseshoe and signed vintage Bengals helmet (the decanter isn’t in mint condition, a little gluing was needed from an unfortunate dusting accident). You never know what you will find on Uni Watch.

  • todd krevanchi | April 13, 2007 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=”69764″]a truly amazing series of mascot-based bobbleheads (here, here, here, and here),[/quote]

    thats great! orwigsburg is just up the road from me and my mother has been looking to unload her collection of bobble heads for years! im just curious as to what his buying price will be as compared to his selling prices… ebay might be the better bet for her…

    [quote comment=”69759″]The game of indoor base ball was invented in Chicago in 1887, and came about through a frolic among the members of the Farragut Club, who, in a spirit of fun on Thanksgiving day of that year, threw an ordinary boxing glove around the hall, which was struck at by one of the boys with a broom. [/quote]

    that is only the second time i’ve ever heard a reference to farragut. both times in a sports reference… remember, this guy played his senior year there!
    http://images.google...

    [quote comment=”69736″]Ok, if an entire team is choosing to wear 42 that’s one thing, but why the hell is Eric Byrnes wearing number 42? That’s just rediculous.[/quote]

    i guess me wearing #1 because i idolized ozzie smith growing up was ridiculous as well…

    [quote comment=”69746″]UMich-centric version of Uni Watch (or at least that’s how the authors describe it) here.
    [/quote]

    this picture of jalen rose (who is sporting my 3rd favorite nike hoop shoe of all time the air maestro) features him wearing what looks to be mourning stripes on both shoulders.
    http://www.nbaloud.c...

  • Stuby | April 13, 2007 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment=”69773″]Barry Bonds Blows[/quote]
    Indeed he does.

  • Jamie | April 13, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    Are the new “flow” batting helmets sparklier than the old tradition ones. After watching the Detroit Tigers game last night I noticed that the blue batting helmets almost look iradecent(sp.?).

  • Natron | April 13, 2007 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”69775″]Minna, get your beer-drinking self ready. I am planning a Minneapolis trip for that weekend.

    Speaking of which, Paul, The Twins play Detroit that night at the Metrodomeon the 11th. It would be awesome to sit with THE MAN at a game featuring the classic Tigers uniform and the Twins and their pinstripes.

    Thoughts?[/quote]

    If I go, can I wear my jersey too?

  • SeattleMatt | April 13, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    Damns, I’m going to miss the Chicago Uniwatch gathering by 1 day. As far as Goose Island goes, I’ve always had better experiences at the Clybourn location. It might lack the coolness of the being a half block from Wrigley, but the food and beer seems a little better there.

  • Paul Lukas | April 13, 2007 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”69775″]Paul, The Twins play Detroit that night at the Metrodomeon the 11th. It would be awesome to sit with THE MAN at a game featuring the classic Tigers uniform and the Twins and their pinstripes.

    Thoughts?[/quote]

    Nice thought, but I’m only gonna be in town for one night, and I’d rather not spend it in an indoor baseball stadium (especially since ballpark seating isn’t very conducive for socializing with a large group). But maybe Nye’s will have the game on the TV!

  • Joe | April 13, 2007 at 10:06 am |

    [quote comment=”69779″]Very Baggy Uniform Sighting

    Last night while flipping through channels – National vs. Braves, nationals pitcher Colome, #43, was wearing a very oversized uniform, both jersey and pants. You could not see the belt because the jersey overhang was so extreme, but it must have been there because the pants would not have been able to defy gravity without a functional belt.

    Maybe this was a uniform choice based on performance – it is hard to see the release point when it is a gray blob making the pitch.

    Or, maybe this was a need for comfort due to an all over skin rash?

    Or, maybe lost luggage?

    Or, maybe this was a fashion look-at-me statement?

    Whatever the reason, the baggy trend seems to be picking up steam. Sorry, no photos.[/quote]

    I’ve noticed this year there are some Orioles sporting a very baggy look this season, but the king has been Nick Markakis.

  • tessa | April 13, 2007 at 10:08 am |

    I have just had my first disappearing post experience. Of course, there is a 90% chance that it is “user error.”

    Interesting article here about the players wearing 42. Mostly old news, but an interesting focus on the grassroots-iness of the movement to wear 42. Also, the article notes that players wearing 42 will not have their names on their jerseys. I had not thought about the names (being a ‘jingoistic’ Yankee fan :P, I am not in the practice of thinking about nameplates). I think this will look strange – some players on a team with nameplates, others without. On the other hand, the ‘strangeness’ will bring more focus to the 42, which is good.

    Man, Minneapolis is going to be a good time! Color me jealous (a nice hunter green jealous, of course).

  • Teebz | April 13, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment=”69792″]
    Nice thought, but I’m only gonna be in town for one night, and I’d rather not spend it in an indoor baseball stadium (especially since ballpark seating isn’t very conducive for socializing with a large group). But maybe Nye’s will have the game on the TV![/quote]

    Ahhh… much agreed on the large group. Good call! :o)

  • Big O | April 13, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”69783″][quote comment=”69773″]Barry Bonds Blows[/quote]
    Indeed he does.[/quote]

    So thats how he got every drop out of the “syringe”

  • Teebz | April 13, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    Speaking of large groups, since there was a pile of animosity towards Paul’s article yesterday and the arguments that went with it, I thought I’d include this today.

    Make laughs, not war, people. This site is too good for anger and hatred. :o)

  • Jason | April 13, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    I noticed that the Cleveland Cavaliers played at home (vs. NJ Nets) with their road jerseys on last night? Anyone know why?

  • pitnasty | April 13, 2007 at 10:38 am |

    i will miss paul in the chi by one day. paul i think you should come down to knoxvegas during the fall, the beer flows the women are lovely and cmon how can u resist all the beautiful orange

  • ElRey | April 13, 2007 at 10:38 am |

    MLB is selling replica jerseys with current players names and Jackie Robinson’s #.

    Garciaparra

    Griffey

  • Nicholas Maibroda | April 13, 2007 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment=”69766″][quote comment=”69763″][quote comment=”69757″]I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.[/quote]
    Please don’t remind me of ‘Nos Amours’, aka the Expos. I live in Montreal and was one of the few fans who went to the stadium on a regular basis to see MLB at a ridiculous cheap price (as low as $5 CDN, usually around $8 CDN with a sit anywhere policy) Right now, it is snowing/raining with no promise of any type of baseball played with wooden bats. The closest place to watch a game are AAA Ottawa Lynx and Short Season A ball in Vermont, which has a beautiful ballpark. Take advantage of your local ball clubs.[/quote]

    At least Montreal retained custody of Youppi!

    He’s infinitely better than the malformed chicken that the Nationals have.[/quote]

    You are bang on! A lot of the hockey fans in Montreal dislike the fact that the club has a mascot, let alone an old unemployed baseball mascot. However as one of the Montreal sports journalist said, he may be a little annoying at games, but what Youppi! means to kids in hospital beds cannot be measured. Youppi! even managed to make this man smile.

  • Alex | April 13, 2007 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”69779″]Very Baggy Uniform Sighting

    Last night while flipping through channels – National vs. Braves, nationals pitcher Colome, #43, was wearing a very oversized uniform, both jersey and pants. You could not see the belt because the jersey overhang was so extreme, but it must have been there because the pants would not have been able to defy gravity without a functional belt.

    Maybe this was a uniform choice based on performance – it is hard to see the release point when it is a gray blob making the pitch.

    Or, maybe this was a need for comfort due to an all over skin rash?

    Or, maybe lost luggage?

    Or, maybe this was a fashion look-at-me statement?

    Whatever the reason, the baggy trend seems to be picking up steam. Sorry, no photos.[/quote]

    wow, only here would someone notice something like that as I did. As soon as he took the mound I was laughing at how ridiculous he looked in his PJs….I’m not sure the pants and jersey were any baggier than say Man Ram’s, but they sure looked huge seeing as Colome is pretty thin…

  • Johnny O | April 13, 2007 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”69759″][quote comment=”69758″]There are going to be Uni Watch parties in ‘Sota, Chicago, and St. Louis… but no visit to Brew City or Mad Town??[/quote]

    I did a Milwaukee party back in August…[/quote]
    Ahhh of course… right after I started contributing to the blog. Not a problem though. Maybe in the near future another trip can be planned to the Dairy State. Until then I will try and get down to Chi Town.

  • Paul Lukas | April 13, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    Today’s ESPN column is up — look here.

  • Andrew | April 13, 2007 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”69802″]I noticed that the Cleveland Cavaliers played at home (vs. NJ Nets) with their road jerseys on last night? Anyone know why?[/quote]

    I dont think those are the Cavs road unis… but rather the alternate…. but this is a better question, did the Cavs make this their primary road uniform? It seems they wear this uniform more on the road than the red uniforms. This I dont mind so much because the Blue jerseys are sweeeeeettttt. Interesting pic here anybody ever see these Lebron shoes before???

  • Broker75 | April 13, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”69763″][quote comment=”69757″]I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.[/quote]
    Please don’t remind me of ‘Nos Amours’, aka the Expos. I live in Montreal and was one of the few fans who went to the stadium on a regular basis to see MLB at a ridiculous cheap price (as low as $5 CDN, usually around $8 CDN with a sit anywhere policy) Right now, it is snowing/raining with no promise of any type of baseball played with wooden bats. The closest place to watch a game are AAA Ottawa Lynx and Short Season A ball in Vermont, which has a beautiful ballpark. Take advantage of your local ball clubs.[/quote]
    no doubt, when the hell is warm weather coming! and I am way south of Montreal! %$#@!

  • Matt B | April 13, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    Didn’t Tiger cop the red-on-Sundays thing from Curtis Strange?

  • Kevin | April 13, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    good article…i have forever been superstitious about little stuff like that in every sport i play

  • andrew | April 13, 2007 at 11:15 am |

    in your article today paul… what about Rip Hamilton and his mask superstition? he obviously doesn’t need that hideous thing anymore.

  • todd krevanchi | April 13, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”69814″] Interesting pic here anybody ever see these Lebron shoes before???[/quote]

    those are the lebron iv nyc edition…
    http://criticalsole....

    this post on my board will show you virtually all of the lebron iv colorways…
    http://p087.ezboard....

    nike signed some draftees…
    http://www.nike.com/...

    i love the PE nike 2k4 and 2k5’s that mlb’ers have been wearing…

    [quote comment=”69807″]MLB is selling replica jerseys with current players names and Jackie Robinson’s #.

    Garciaparra

    Griffey[/quote]

    for those who wear 42 on sunday, protocol should be to wear low stirrups and appropriately tailored pants as well…
    like this guy.
    http://www.bricksand...

  • Joe | April 13, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”69807″]MLB is selling replica jerseys with current players names and Jackie Robinson’s #.

    Garciaparra

    Griffey[/quote]

    It would be a real tribute if they used the correct lettering and not that stock number and letters crap!

  • Justin | April 13, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    Personally, Eric Byrnes sucks so bad, that I don’t see it as a tribute to Jackie Robinson. It’s more of a disgrace.

    On a lighter note, Paul mentioned Manny’s habit of stealing things from teammates on hot streaks in his ESPN column today. This would probably explain him wearing David Ortiz’s “34” wristbands a couple of years ago.

  • Tom | April 13, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    No uniform superstition story is compelte without referencing Michael Jordan’s North Carolina uniform shorts...

    Though he moved to Illinois he never forgot his ties to North Carolina. He wore his North Carolina uniform shorts under his Chicago Bulls uniform in every game…

  • DW '95 | April 13, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    Paul,

    I just wanted to say how funny it is that you decided to go with this rally cap picture for your column today. The players are from a high school I played against when I went to school in Japan. You can see a sign in Japanese that’s posted on the back wall of the dugout. They were the American School in Japan (ASIJ) Mustangs and I played for the St. Mary’s International School (SMIS) Titans. If I remember correctly I think we ended up winning that game. Thanks for taking me back in time to the glory days of high school as I sit at work doing absolutely nothing. Man, do I miss organized baseball.

  • Metsfan AZ | April 13, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”69826″][quote comment=”69814″] Interesting pic here anybody ever see these Lebron shoes before???[/quote]

    those are the lebron iv nyc edition…
    http://criticalsole....

    this post on my board will show you virtually all of the lebron iv colorways…
    http://p087.ezboard....

    nike signed some draftees…
    http://www.nike.com/...

    i love the PE nike 2k4 and 2k5’s that mlb’ers have been wearing…

    [quote comment=”69807″]MLB is selling replica jerseys with current players names and Jackie Robinson’s #.

    Garciaparra

    Griffey[/quote]

    for those who wear 42 on sunday, protocol should be to wear low stirrups and appropriately tailored pants as well…
    like this guy.
    http://www.bricksand...
    Hey Krevanch, on Page 2’s AM Jump, what kind of shoes is Elton Brand wearing? They look like a huarache/shox hybrid or something, I couldn’t find them on Eastbay or footlocker.

  • tc | April 13, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”69760″][quote comment=”69757″]I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.[/quote]

    *cringe* Never liked them. A few years back (maybe more than a few), my Babe Ruth ball team was named the “Commonwealth Electric Expos”, and our uniforms had the exact styling of those Montreal uniforms – 2 thick stipes down the legs and shoulders, team name/logo on the left, numbers on the right, etc. Exactly the same except for the colors. Of course, the colors were
    the same as our company sponsor which were… brown and yellow. Ugh. It was horrible.

    The 1st of the two years I played, they actually went the extra ugly mile and had us wear yellow sanitaries with brown stirrups, fortunately, the 2nd year we went with white sanitaries and brown stirrups.

    I think I have a team pic laying around, maybe I can scan it so that the atrocity can be seen, but I’ll refuse to identify myself – I’m trying to leave those days behind me![/quote]

    Please do.

  • Thorold Blair | April 13, 2007 at 11:32 am |

    I tired this yesterday but it was a little late.. but has anyone purchased anything from ebbets field flannels? I’m trying to see how their jerseys and hats are for shrinking before i buy something

  • todd krevanchi | April 13, 2007 at 11:35 am |

    i cant see that foreman wore the “same” trunks as he did against ali… based on the fit (and the fact there is no GF on the left leg) i would say it is just another pair similar to them.

    kinda like what the stallion did
    creed fight: http://i19.photobuck...
    dixon fight: http://garfieldridge...

  • Paul Lukas | April 13, 2007 at 11:37 am |

    [quote comment=”69838″]i cant see that foreman wore the “same” trunks as he did against ali… based on the fit (and the fact there is no GF on the left leg) i would say it is just another pair similar to them.[/quote]

    I noticed the “GF” thing too. But Foreman has always maintained that it was the exact same pair. Tall tale? Maybe. But I thought it was worth putting in there, at least parenthetically.

  • Metsfan AZ | April 13, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”69839″][quote comment=”69838″]i cant see that foreman wore the “same” trunks as he did against ali… based on the fit (and the fact there is no GF on the left leg) i would say it is just another pair similar to them.[/quote]

    I noticed the “GF” thing too. But Foreman has always maintained that it was the exact same pair. Tall tale? Maybe. But I thought it was worth putting in there, at least parenthetically.[/quote]
    I remember reading that they were the same trunks (SI maybe). The author even took the creative liberty to say that they may have even shown a dull spot where they had skidded across the canvas in the Ali fight.

  • Matthew S. | April 13, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”69832″]No uniform superstition story is compelte without referencing Michael Jordan’s North Carolina uniform shorts...

    Though he moved to Illinois he never forgot his ties to North Carolina. He wore his North Carolina uniform shorts under his Chicago Bulls uniform in every game…[/quote]

    Jason Terry of the Mavericks always sleeps the night before a game in the team shorts of whatever team they’re playing the next day (i.e. when the Mavericks were playing the Heat in the Finals last year, he slept in Heat team shorts each night before a game). He’s been doing this since his college days at Arizona. He also wears no less than 3 pairs of socks on each foot, but that’s as much about preventing blisters as it is a superstition thing.

  • Metsfan AZ | April 13, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”69843″][quote comment=”69832″]No uniform superstition story is compelte without referencing Michael Jordan’s North Carolina uniform shorts...

    Though he moved to Illinois he never forgot his ties to North Carolina. He wore his North Carolina uniform shorts under his Chicago Bulls uniform in every game…[/quote]

    Jason Terry of the Mavericks always sleeps the night before a game in the team shorts of whatever team they’re playing the next day (i.e. when the Mavericks were playing the Heat in the Finals last year, he slept in Heat team shorts each night before a game). He’s been doing this since his college days at Arizona. He also wears no less than 3 pairs of socks on each foot, but that’s as much about preventing blisters as it is a superstition thing.[/quote]
    I thought he slept in his own full uniform, socks, shorts jersey and all, just no ankle tape.

  • todd krevanchi | April 13, 2007 at 11:48 am |

    thats the nike huarache elite, shox edition…
    this elite shoe is specifically designed for team use and comes in shox, zoom air, and air max midsoles. all come in the same colors for team use. brand just has a PE version.

  • Anthony | April 13, 2007 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”69763″][quote comment=”69757″]I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.[/quote]
    Please don’t remind me of ‘Nos Amours’, aka the Expos. I live in Montreal and was one of the few fans who went to the stadium on a regular basis to see MLB at a ridiculous cheap price (as low as $5 CDN, usually around $8 CDN with a sit anywhere policy) Right now, it is snowing/raining with no promise of any type of baseball played with wooden bats. The closest place to watch a game are AAA Ottawa Lynx and Short Season A ball in Vermont, which has a beautiful ballpark. Take advantage of your local ball clubs.[/quote]

    Interesting that, in this day and age of teams trying to cease and desist amateurs from “stealing” their logos, Vermont’s doing the opposite.

  • Matthew S. | April 13, 2007 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”69846″][quote comment=”69843″][quote comment=”69832″]No uniform superstition story is compelte without referencing Michael Jordan’s North Carolina uniform shorts...

    Though he moved to Illinois he never forgot his ties to North Carolina. He wore his North Carolina uniform shorts under his Chicago Bulls uniform in every game…[/quote]

    Jason Terry of the Mavericks always sleeps the night before a game in the team shorts of whatever team they’re playing the next day (i.e. when the Mavericks were playing the Heat in the Finals last year, he slept in Heat team shorts each night before a game). He’s been doing this since his college days at Arizona. He also wears no less than 3 pairs of socks on each foot, but that’s as much about preventing blisters as it is a superstition thing.[/quote]
    I thought he slept in his own full uniform, socks, shorts jersey and all, just no ankle tape.[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure he wears the other team’s shorts, but I’ll check into that further and see what I can find out.

  • Ari | April 13, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    I work for a company that makes movie posters and we are working on a film called “Leatherheads”. For a photo shoot we just got in a few old football helmets from that Antique Athlete website… good quality and seems authentic from the outside, but I am pretty sure they did not have elastic restraints inside the helmets back then. (by the by – First comment, big fan)

  • Matthew S. | April 13, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”69850″][quote comment=”69846″][quote comment=”69843″][quote comment=”69832″]No uniform superstition story is compelte without referencing Michael Jordan’s North Carolina uniform shorts...

    Though he moved to Illinois he never forgot his ties to North Carolina. He wore his North Carolina uniform shorts under his Chicago Bulls uniform in every game…[/quote]

    Jason Terry of the Mavericks always sleeps the night before a game in the team shorts of whatever team they’re playing the next day (i.e. when the Mavericks were playing the Heat in the Finals last year, he slept in Heat team shorts each night before a game). He’s been doing this since his college days at Arizona. He also wears no less than 3 pairs of socks on each foot, but that’s as much about preventing blisters as it is a superstition thing.[/quote]
    I thought he slept in his own full uniform, socks, shorts jersey and all, just no ankle tape.[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure he wears the other team’s shorts, but I’ll check into that further and see what I can find out.[/quote]

    The following is from answers.com (so the reliability is questionable).

    Terry wears five pairs of socks during every game because of superstition; in one game during the NCAA tournament he did not wear his traditional five pairs and did not score a single point.
    Terry makes it a point to sleep in the game shorts of the next day’s opponent; he has 22 pairs of shorts (including Mike Bibby’s and Gilbert Arenas’s) and is working to get one pair of shorts per team. He was pictured with several pairs of his shorts in a May 2006 edition of Sports Illustrated.

    This, however, is from an nba.com interview (here: http://www.nba.com/h...)

    Q: You have a superstition of wearing the opposing team’s shorts on the night before a game. Do you have the full collection of all 29 opponents yet?
    A: [laughs] Man, I’ve still got a ways to go. I think I’m about halfway home. Hopefully I can get a pair tonight from my good buddy, Chris Paul. But we’ll see. I had 22 (shorts at the end of) last season.

  • Andy from KC | April 13, 2007 at 12:10 pm |

    Love the Antique Athlete site. I was all ready to post and ask what this thing was, and then I saw in the URL that it’s a megaphone. I was gonna guess parking cone, but OK.

    Pricey is right, but they have some cool stuff like this Carl Hubbell glove and catcher’s gear with codpiece, and a Gregg Jefferies game-used jersey for 275 smackers.

  • Allison | April 13, 2007 at 12:15 pm |

    Paul, couldn’t help but laugh at this picture in the article.

    And if you make the St Louis trip, I highly recommend Houlihan’s restaurant at Union Station. We always stop there when we go down for a game, and if you need an afternoon ice cream fix nothing beats Ted Drewes custard!

  • Kyle O. | April 13, 2007 at 12:20 pm |

    I heard somewhere that Tiger Woods wears red on sundays as a show of support for his college Stanford. Has anyone else heard this?

  • Greg | April 13, 2007 at 12:22 pm |

    it’s too bad MLB is selling jerseys with current players and #42. i was really hoping MLB could pull off a nice tribute without trying to make a buck. shame on me for forgetting that the almighty dollar rules the world.

  • jones | April 13, 2007 at 12:24 pm |

    Paul, I love the superstitions mentioned in the article. Ever since T-Ball I’ve always worn my socks high and jumped over the foul lines before the game. Now I’m coaching a little league team and I would look pretty ridiculous wearing a full uniform with stirrups, but i still don’t step on the foul lines. We are the A’s so i got my little bro some green stirrups with the yellow sani’s. Looks pretty sweet if i do say so myself

  • Mark in Shiga | April 13, 2007 at 12:25 pm |

    Looks like the board ate my last post (can’t blame the security code this time) — I wanted to talk about Vermont and their excellent tie-dyed jersey that they wore a few years ago; at the time it was very distinctive! Anyone else ever see one of those?

    Also, a uniform with vertical writing: Konkō High School in Osaka. (Somebody here was looking for one of these; was it you, Minna?) Here’s the jersey-and-pants combination.

  • Matt D. | April 13, 2007 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”69865″]Love the Antique Athlete site. I was all ready to post and ask what this thing was, and then I saw in the URL that it’s a megaphone. I was gonna guess parking cone, but OK.

    [/quote]
    I’ve seen this for the White Sox, too. Apparently, it was a good thing in the 60’s and 70’s to sell popcorn at the ballpark, then tear off the bottom for a megaphone. Look Here. 2/3rd of the way down on the right-hand side.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | April 13, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”69872″]I heard somewhere that Tiger Woods wears red on sundays as a show of support for his college Stanford. Has anyone else heard this?[/quote]

    i thought it was because his mother said it was his “power color”.

  • Dan | April 13, 2007 at 12:36 pm |

    first: paul thanks for using my post on the front page, made my day

    second: minna if you’re looking for all black kits juventus would still be a pretty good bet. i don’t know many clubs with just black as a color. i know charlton from england has a black and gold jersey, but juve is the most monochromatic you can get

  • Jeff | April 13, 2007 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”69878″][quote comment=”69872″]I heard somewhere that Tiger Woods wears red on sundays as a show of support for his college Stanford. Has anyone else heard this?[/quote]

    i thought it was because his mother said it was his “power color”.[/quote]

    The “legend” I always heard was that he was having dinner with his parents the night before a final round (don’t remember the tourney) and his mom said “You look good in red…”

    And the rest is history…

  • Johnny O | April 13, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”69880″]first: paul thanks for using my post on the front page, made my day

    second: minna if you’re looking for all black kits juventus would still be a pretty good bet. i don’t know many clubs with just black as a color. i know charlton from england has a black and gold jersey, but juve is the most monochromatic you can get[/quote]
    Why not just go all the way and look at the New Zealand Rugby team called the All Blacks?

    All Blacks

  • Mark in Cincy | April 13, 2007 at 1:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”69882″][quote comment=”69880″]first: paul thanks for using my post on the front page, made my day

    second: minna if you’re looking for all black kits juventus would still be a pretty good bet. i don’t know many clubs with just black as a color. i know charlton from england has a black and gold jersey, but juve is the most monochromatic you can get[/quote]
    Why not just go all the way and look at the New Zealand Rugby team called the All Blacks?

    All Blacks[/quote]
    Love the All Blacks, this was my sister’s gift to my newborn son . . . he wears it quite a bit.

  • Dan | April 13, 2007 at 1:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”69882″][quote comment=”69880″]first: paul thanks for using my post on the front page, made my day

    second: minna if you’re looking for all black kits juventus would still be a pretty good bet. i don’t know many clubs with just black as a color. i know charlton from england has a black and gold jersey, but juve is the most monochromatic you can get[/quote]

    Why not just go all the way and look at the New Zealand Rugby team called the All Blacks?

    All Blacks[/quote]

    johnny as much as i like the all blacks (the haka totally kicks ass by the way) she was asking about soccer kits last night

  • Jerime | April 13, 2007 at 1:03 pm |

    After reading about the beginnings of indoor baseball, and then seeing the picture on the official guide, I can’t help but wonder if this was the start of 16″ softball. Or what folks outside of the Chicago, Milwaukee, or Detroit areas ignorately refer to as mushball.

  • Broker75 | April 13, 2007 at 1:05 pm |

    I think this fits todays date perfectly.

    it’s uni-related..of another kind.

  • Minna H. | April 13, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    There’s no party like a Minneapolis Polonaise Uni-Watch Party! I am halfway there already! Woo-hoo! Paul L., in the house at GQs best bar in America! It’ll be a great time for me to find a beer I like.

    I’m stoked, can you tell? I’m glad you’re coming on down, Teebz. I KNOW Natron will be there in his Boooooooooooof jersey. Teebz, gonna wear your Nordique jersey? Me? I’m going to wear… black.

    Mark in Shiga, that was, indeed, me. Thanks for the link–looks sharp! And for the link last night.

    Dan, I will scour Juventus for an all-black look. Let me know if you think of any other.

    Johnny O., I love the All Blacks, They are my favorite aesthetic team. You could come to Minneapolis instead of Illinois–it’s going to be a grand old time.

    As for Jason Terry, I was watching a Mavs game, and the announcers (think Hubie Brown was one of them, but I’m not sure) joking about his superstition of wearing the other team’s shorts the night before a game. They went on quite a bit about it–sorry, my memory is a bit spotty.

  • rob | April 13, 2007 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”69757″]I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.[/quote]

    i just love the hat

  • rob | April 13, 2007 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”69807″]MLB is selling replica jerseys with current players names and Jackie Robinson’s #.

    Garciaparra

    Griffey[/quote]

    that really is dumb…i think auctioning game worn jerseys would be fine, but just selling replicas for one day of baseball?

    they’ll do anything for some money

  • Johnny O | April 13, 2007 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”69888″][quote comment=”69882″][quote comment=”69880″]first: paul thanks for using my post on the front page, made my day

    second: minna if you’re looking for all black kits juventus would still be a pretty good bet. i don’t know many clubs with just black as a color. i know charlton from england has a black and gold jersey, but juve is the most monochromatic you can get[/quote]

    Why not just go all the way and look at the New Zealand Rugby team called the All Blacks?

    All Blacks[/quote]

    johnny as much as i like the all blacks (the haka totally kicks ass by the way) she was asking about soccer kits last night[/quote]
    My bad. Should have read the comments from yesterday first. But come on… those kits (do they call them kits in rugby?) do kick ass. And yes, the Haka does also kick ass. Quite frankly it is kind of scary. If I’m not mistaken isn’t the haka a traditional Māori dance?

    Minna – I don’t mind ‘Sota too much. I happen to have a few friends who are younger than me that go to The U… but Chi-town is only about an hour drive from my Southern Wisconsin home where the TC is about 3.5 hours. But we will see depending on the dates.

  • Broker75 | April 13, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”69890″]I think this fits todays date perfectly.

    it’s uni-related..of another kind.[/quote]

    here, this might help. todays date.

  • Skridge | April 13, 2007 at 1:31 pm |

    Krevanch,

    Each time I attempt to access your links, or click on your URL, the page that comes up says that I’ve been banned from the community. Quite interesting…

    Any thoughts?

  • Kim | April 13, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”69882″][quote comment=”69880″]first: paul thanks for using my post on the front page, made my day

    second: minna if you’re looking for all black kits juventus would still be a pretty good bet. i don’t know many clubs with just black as a color. i know charlton from england has a black and gold jersey, but juve is the most monochromatic you can get[/quote]
    Why not just go all the way and look at the New Zealand Rugby team called the All Blacks?

    All Blacks[/quote]

    The soccer team also goes all black (or All White).

  • Stuby | April 13, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”69807″]MLB is selling replica jerseys with current players names and Jackie Robinson’s #.

    Garciaparra

    Griffey[/quote]
    Lame. Lame. Lame.

  • Minna H. | April 13, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”69897″][quote comment=”69888″][quote comment=”69882″][quote comment=”69880″]first: paul thanks for using my post on the front page, made my day

    second: minna if you’re looking for all black kits juventus would still be a pretty good bet. i don’t know many clubs with just black as a color. i know charlton from england has a black and gold jersey, but juve is the most monochromatic you can get[/quote]

    Why not just go all the way and look at the New Zealand Rugby team called the All Blacks?

    All Blacks[/quote]

    johnny as much as i like the all blacks (the haka totally kicks ass by the way) she was asking about soccer kits last night[/quote]
    My bad. Should have read the comments from yesterday first. But come on… those kits (do they call them kits in rugby?) do kick ass. And yes, the Haka does also kick ass. Quite frankly it is kind of scary. If I’m not mistaken isn’t the haka a traditional Māori dance?

    Minna – I don’t mind ‘Sota too much. I happen to have a few friends who are younger than me that go to The U… but Chi-town is only about an hour drive from my Southern Wisconsin home where the TC is about 3.5 hours. But we will see depending on the dates.[/quote]

    Yeah, it’s traditional Maori. I wonder what the opposing team thinks while it’s waiting for the All Blacks to do their thing. I might have to start watching rugby–amazing game.

    I’m just teasing ya–I understand that Chi-town is closer.

  • Teebz | April 13, 2007 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”69893″]There’s no party like a Minneapolis Polonaise Uni-Watch Party! I am halfway there already! Woo-hoo! Paul L., in the house at GQs best bar in America! It’ll be a great time for me to find a beer I like.

    I’m stoked, can you tell? I’m glad you’re coming on down, Teebz. I KNOW Natron will be there in his Boooooooooooof jersey. Teebz, gonna wear your Nordique jersey? Me? I’m going to wear… black.
    [/quote]

    I need a Nords jersey first. :o|

    However, I will be sporting something from the collection. Maybe Kasparaitis and the Gorton’s Fisherman jersey will make an appearance for all in attendance. :o)

  • Brandon | April 13, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    See you at Nye’s Paul!

    Have to agree on the Dome, come back in 3 years to visit the new park, that’ll be worth seeing!

  • Minna H. | April 13, 2007 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”69902″][quote comment=”69882″][quote comment=”69880″]first: paul thanks for using my post on the front page, made my day

    second: minna if you’re looking for all black kits juventus would still be a pretty good bet. i don’t know many clubs with just black as a color. i know charlton from england has a black and gold jersey, but juve is the most monochromatic you can get[/quote]
    Why not just go all the way and look at the New Zealand Rugby team called the All Blacks?

    All Blacks[/quote]

    The soccer team also goes all black (or All White).[/quote]

    Huh, really? And it was the New Zealand cricket team who wore all-black, too. Looks like I have to move to NZ!

    Kim, any pics? All I’m seeing is All White.

  • M.S. Warner | April 13, 2007 at 1:39 pm |

    From the ESPN column:

    In a more nuanced approach, teams playing the Dallas Cowboys sometimes opt to wear white at home, thereby forcing the Cowboys to wear their blue jerseys, which are supposedly bad luck. The highest-profile instance of this was in 1980, when the Eagles chose to wear white while playing host to the NFC Championship Game. Sure enough, they won, and the legend of the Cowboys’ blue hex was cemented.

    Actually, it goes further back than that. The Cowboys have had that superstition since Super Bowl V, which they lost to the Colts in their blue jerseys.

  • Matthew S. | April 13, 2007 at 1:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”69904″][quote comment=”69897″][quote comment=”69888″][quote comment=”69882″][quote comment=”69880″]first: paul thanks for using my post on the front page, made my day

    second: minna if you’re looking for all black kits juventus would still be a pretty good bet. i don’t know many clubs with just black as a color. i know charlton from england has a black and gold jersey, but juve is the most monochromatic you can get[/quote]

    Why not just go all the way and look at the New Zealand Rugby team called the All Blacks?

    All Blacks[/quote]

    johnny as much as i like the all blacks (the haka totally kicks ass by the way) she was asking about soccer kits last night[/quote]
    My bad. Should have read the comments from yesterday first. But come on… those kits (do they call them kits in rugby?) do kick ass. And yes, the Haka does also kick ass. Quite frankly it is kind of scary. If I’m not mistaken isn’t the haka a traditional Māori dance?

    Minna – I don’t mind ‘Sota too much. I happen to have a few friends who are younger than me that go to The U… but Chi-town is only about an hour drive from my Southern Wisconsin home where the TC is about 3.5 hours. But we will see depending on the dates.[/quote]

    Yeah, it’s traditional Maori. I wonder what the opposing team thinks while it’s waiting for the All Blacks to do their thing. I might have to start watching rugby–amazing game.

    I’m just teasing ya–I understand that Chi-town is closer.[/quote]

    There are different types of Haka. One is historically based while the other is more recent and translated from Maori the lyrics have more to do with the Rugby team than with Maori tribesmen of the past.

    I posted this a week or so ago in the comments section, but it was late at night and I’m not sure how many people saw it, so here it is again, three videos of the All Blacks peforming the Haka:

    http://www.nzallblac...

    The first video is the newer Haka (controversial when premiered in 2005-2006 because it features a throat slashing gesture directed at the other team at the end). The second video has the more commonly performed Haka.

    In some of the video, you can see the reactions of the other team (particularly of the French team in the second video…I love it, their faces range from ‘can’t wait to get past this’ to ‘oh my god, those men are scary’).

    I remember reading about how in 1997 I think, two members of the English team rushed the All Blacks while they were performing the Haka to show that they accepted the challenge and were not intimidated.

    More history here: http://www.nzallblac...

  • Minna H. | April 13, 2007 at 1:52 pm |

    While reading Paul’s article, the name Mike Redmond and him doing naked batting practice triggered something in my mind.

    Mike Redmond up to his old tricks–but not for any superstitious reason. There’s also talk of a Magic Girdle. Read it and laugh.

  • Kim | April 13, 2007 at 1:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”69807″]MLB is selling replica jerseys with current players names and Jackie Robinson’s #.

    Garciaparra

    Griffey[/quote]

    They’re also selling authentic jersey’s with just the number:

    Dodgers

    Reds

    And what Jackie Robinson Tribute merchandising campaign would be complete without a Phillies Cool Base jersey?

  • todd krevanchi | April 13, 2007 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”69900″]Krevanch,

    Each time I attempt to access your links, or click on your URL, the page that comes up says that I’ve been banned from the community.

    Quite interesting…

    Any thoughts?[/quote]

    i am an administrator on the niketalk message board… one of the original 4. were you once banned from niketalk at anytime?

  • Jon in SLC | April 13, 2007 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”69904″][quote comment=”69897″][quote comment=”69888″][quote comment=”69882″][quote comment=”69880″]first: paul thanks for using my post on the front page, made my day

    second: minna if you’re looking for all black kits juventus would still be a pretty good bet. i don’t know many clubs with just black as a color. i know charlton from england has a black and gold jersey, but juve is the most monochromatic you can get[/quote]

    Why not just go all the way and look at the New Zealand Rugby team called the All Blacks?

    All Blacks[/quote]

    johnny as much as i like the all blacks (the haka totally kicks ass by the way) she was asking about soccer kits last night[/quote]
    My bad. Should have read the comments from yesterday first. But come on… those kits (do they call them kits in rugby?) do kick ass. And yes, the Haka does also kick ass. Quite frankly it is kind of scary. If I’m not mistaken isn’t the haka a traditional Māori dance?

    Minna – I don’t mind ‘Sota too much. I happen to have a few friends who are younger than me that go to The U… but Chi-town is only about an hour drive from my Southern Wisconsin home where the TC is about 3.5 hours. But we will see depending on the dates.[/quote]

    Yeah, it’s traditional Maori. I wonder what the opposing team thinks while it’s waiting for the All Blacks to do their thing. I might have to start watching rugby–amazing game.

    I’m just teasing ya–I understand that Chi-town is closer.[/quote]

    Or Minna, you could just watch my teams hated rival the BYU Cougars. They ripped off the Haka dance a few years back.

  • Paul Lukas | April 13, 2007 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”69910″]From the ESPN column:

    In a more nuanced approach, teams playing the Dallas Cowboys sometimes opt to wear white at home, thereby forcing the Cowboys to wear their blue jerseys, which are supposedly bad luck. The highest-profile instance of this was in 1980, when the Eagles chose to wear white while playing host to the NFC Championship Game. Sure enough, they won, and the legend of the Cowboys’ blue hex was cemented.

    Actually, it goes further back than that. The Cowboys have had that superstition since Super Bowl V, which they lost to the Colts in their blue jerseys.[/quote]

    Yeah, but the Colts didn’t make them wear blue in Super Bowl V — the NFL did (at the time, the Super Bowl’s designated home team was required to wear its colored jersey; nowadays it’s the designated home team’s choice). The Eagles made Dallas wear blue. While there had been talk about blue being bad luck, that game really put the capper on the legend of the blue jinx.

  • Jeff B | April 13, 2007 at 2:19 pm |

    I was expecting to see a ref to this in the rally cap section of today’s EPSN column.

  • Minna H. | April 13, 2007 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”69921″][quote comment=”69904″]

    Yeah, it’s traditional Maori. I wonder what the opposing team thinks while it’s waiting for the All Blacks to do their thing. I might have to start watching rugby–amazing game.

    I’m just teasing ya–I understand that Chi-town is closer.[/quote]

    Or Minna, you could just watch my teams hated rival the BYU Cougars. They ripped off the Haka dance a few years back.[/quote]

    Hm. Somehow, it’s just not the same with all the pads and no Maori. They don’t seem to be doing it too precisely, either, so maybe they are ‘saying’, “We are big ninnies–come kick our asses’ instead! Nope. I’m sticking to my original plan, Jon, and moving to NZ.

  • Matthew S. | April 13, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”69928″][quote comment=”69921″][quote comment=”69904″]

    Yeah, it’s traditional Maori. I wonder what the opposing team thinks while it’s waiting for the All Blacks to do their thing. I might have to start watching rugby–amazing game.

    I’m just teasing ya–I understand that Chi-town is closer.[/quote]

    Or Minna, you could just watch my teams hated rival the BYU Cougars. They ripped off the Haka dance a few years back.[/quote]

    Hm. Somehow, it’s just not the same with all the pads and no Maori. They don’t seem to be doing it too precisely, either, so maybe they are ‘saying’, “We are big ninnies–come kick our asses’ instead! Nope. I’m sticking to my original plan, Jon, and moving to NZ.[/quote]

    Minna, check out comment 99, I threw a couple videos of the All Blacks performing.

  • Vince Grzegorek | April 13, 2007 at 2:29 pm |

    Anyone know any specifics on what LeBron is wearing around his legs in these two pictures?

    Are they a leg version of the armband thingies football players wear?

  • Minna H. | April 13, 2007 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”69930″][quote comment=”69928″][quote comment=”69921″][quote comment=”69904″]

    Yeah, it’s traditional Maori. I wonder what the opposing team thinks while it’s waiting for the All Blacks to do their thing. I might have to start watching rugby–amazing game.

    I’m just teasing ya–I understand that Chi-town is closer.[/quote]

    Or Minna, you could just watch my teams hated rival the BYU Cougars. They ripped off the Haka dance a few years back.[/quote]

    Hm. Somehow, it’s just not the same with all the pads and no Maori. They don’t seem to be doing it too precisely, either, so maybe they are ‘saying’, “We are big ninnies–come kick our asses’ instead! Nope. I’m sticking to my original plan, Jon, and moving to NZ.[/quote]

    Minna, check out comment 99, I threw a couple videos of the All Blacks performing.[/quote]

    Yeah, Matthew S., I saw them the last time you posted. That is what cemented my everlasting loyalty to the All Blacks. I mean, I love that their name is All Blacks. It doesn’t get much better than that. So you can take the credit for me making the All Blacks my number one aesthetically-pleasing team.

  • WVU Tom | April 13, 2007 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”69925″]I was expecting to see a ref to this in the rally cap section of today’s EPSN column.[/quote]

    Ugh, not that thing again…why won’t it die!

  • Jon in SLC | April 13, 2007 at 2:34 pm |

    I hope that’s what they are saying. A lot of the players are from the South Pacific though. And I’m sorry to say they did beat us on a last second questionable call touchdown.

  • Minna H. | April 13, 2007 at 2:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”69931″]Anyone know any specifics on what LeBron is wearing around his legs in these two pictures?

    Are they a leg version of the armband thingies football players wear?[/quote]

    What I know is that it makes him look like he’s wearing Granny hose.

  • Minna H. | April 13, 2007 at 2:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”69934″]I hope that’s what they are saying. A lot of the players are from the South Pacific though. And I’m sorry to say they did beat us on a last second questionable call touchdown.[/quote]

    Really? It’s hard to tell with the quality of the video. It still doesn’t look right with the players in full gear. Maybe if they had been wearing all-black unis, I would have felt differently.

    Aren’t all last-second touchdowns that beat your team questionable?

  • Metsfan AZ | April 13, 2007 at 2:37 pm |

    Hey Minna,
    Here’s a nominee for a favorite throwback uni.

  • Matthew S. | April 13, 2007 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”69932″][quote comment=”69930″][quote comment=”69928″][quote comment=”69921″][quote comment=”69904″]

    Yeah, it’s traditional Maori. I wonder what the opposing team thinks while it’s waiting for the All Blacks to do their thing. I might have to start watching rugby–amazing game.

    I’m just teasing ya–I understand that Chi-town is closer.[/quote]

    Or Minna, you could just watch my teams hated rival the BYU Cougars. They ripped off the Haka dance a few years back.[/quote]

    Hm. Somehow, it’s just not the same with all the pads and no Maori. They don’t seem to be doing it too precisely, either, so maybe they are ‘saying’, “We are big ninnies–come kick our asses’ instead! Nope. I’m sticking to my original plan, Jon, and moving to NZ.[/quote]

    Minna, check out comment 99, I threw a couple videos of the All Blacks performing.[/quote]

    Yeah, Matthew S., I saw them the last time you posted. That is what cemented my everlasting loyalty to the All Blacks. I mean, I love that their name is All Blacks. It doesn’t get much better than that. So you can take the credit for me making the All Blacks my number one aesthetically-pleasing team.[/quote]

    Good, of all people I didn’t want you to miss out on that. The haka is a pretty stirring sight to see on video, I can only imagine what it’s like in person.

    Also, apparently in November of last year, the All Blacks had a disagreement with the Welsh Rugby union on when they would perform the haka prior to the match. So in protest, the team performed the haka in the locker room and video was then shown of it over the stadium big screen. This severely disappointed the fans who turned out wanting to see the haka performed on the field. Rugby unions have begun to contend that the haka gives an unfair advantage to the All Blacks because it ‘pumps them up’ and gives them an intimidating appearance prior to the match.

  • Poo Holes | April 13, 2007 at 2:46 pm |

    Recommendations for STL:
    1. Schlafly’s Bottleworks: Local brewhouse with a great selection of beers and a menu featuring locally produced ingredients.

    2. Blackthorn Pub: Real neighborhood bar with fantastic pizza. Be prepared to wait for your pie though…

    3. Can’t go wrong with O’Connell’s either (previously mentioned)

  • Minna H. | April 13, 2007 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”69938″]Hey Minna,
    Here’s a nominee for a favorite throwback uni.[/quote]

    It looks more brown than black, but it’ll do. Love the hats.

    Here’s a bobblehead from the Pirates. That fits in with today’s theme (sorta).

    Matthew S., I guess it would give them an advantage, but the other team could do something else to pump themselves up, too. I think it would be neat to see the haka performed in person.

  • Broker75 | April 13, 2007 at 2:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”69938″]Hey Minna,
    Here’s a nominee for a favorite throwback uni.[/quote]
    got my vote. nice

  • Minna H. | April 13, 2007 at 2:51 pm |

    Ok. I found this and this, but no all-black yet.

    This is nice, too, but what is the patch on it?

  • Jeremy | April 13, 2007 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”69931″]Anyone know any specifics on what LeBron is wearing around his legs in these two pictures?

    Are they a leg version of the armband thingies football players wear?[/quote]

    I believe that those are for jumpers knee. It helps stabilize the patellar tendon.

  • Broker75 | April 13, 2007 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”69943″][quote comment=”69938″]Hey Minna,
    Here’s a nominee for a favorite throwback uni.[/quote]

    It looks more brown than black, but it’ll do. Love the hats.

    Here’s a bobblehead from the Pirates. That fits in with today’s theme (sorta).

    Matthew S., I guess it would give them an advantage, but the other team could do something else to pump themselves up, too. I think it would be neat to see the haka performed in person.[/quote]
    Minna, are those signatures on the priates’ chin, or chin hair?

  • Broker75 | April 13, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”69949″][quote comment=”69943″][quote comment=”69938″]Hey Minna,
    Here’s a nominee for a favorite throwback uni.[/quote]

    It looks more brown than black, but it’ll do. Love the hats.

    Here’s a bobblehead from the Pirates. That fits in with today’s theme (sorta).

    Matthew S., I guess it would give them an advantage, but the other team could do something else to pump themselves up, too. I think it would be neat to see the haka performed in person.[/quote]
    Minna, are those signatures on the priates’ chin, or chin hair?[/quote]
    nevermind, I zoomed in, definitely chin scruff.

  • patrick | April 13, 2007 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”69948″][quote comment=”69931″]Anyone know any specifics on what LeBron is wearing around his legs in these two pictures?

    Are they a leg version of the armband thingies football players wear?[/quote]

    I believe that those are for jumpers knee. It helps stabilize the patellar tendon.[/quote]

    Dont know the medical explanation, but they hel releive stress, pressure, pain on knees. Usually only seen in basketball, although I’ve seen them on the soccer field as well

  • John Zajac | April 13, 2007 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”69935″][quote comment=”69931″]Anyone know any specifics on what LeBron is wearing around his legs in these two pictures?

    Are they a leg version of the armband thingies football players wear?[/quote]

    What I know is that it makes him look like he’s wearing Granny hose.[/quote]

    Those look like the Cho-Pat Knee straps. I had a few of them from my days as an NBA ballboy. They help fight off the little pains that can come at the base of your patella tendon after hard activity (running, cutting, jumping, ect.) that they called “jumpers knee”

  • tedkerwin | April 13, 2007 at 3:10 pm |

    Glavine just told Mike and Mad Dog that baseball allows pitchers to carry hand warmer packets in their pockets to keep the hand warm on cold nights, I never knew that.

  • Robert | April 13, 2007 at 3:12 pm |

    The Wikipedia entry on the rally cap may be right about its first appearance in the Major Leagues in 1985, but it was around elsewhere years earlier. My high school teams wore rally caps (with little success), and I graduated in 1984.

  • Aaron | April 13, 2007 at 3:15 pm |

    Two great videos here in this console about the Rangers equipment staff. Great footage.
    http://iptv.newyorkr...
    The titles of the videos are “Equipped To Win” Pt. 1 and “Equipped To Win” Pt. 2.

  • Broker75 | April 13, 2007 at 3:18 pm |

    espn.com is having a poll on who should wear # 42 in honour of Jackie Robinson.

  • Ron | April 13, 2007 at 3:25 pm |

    The Sharks will wear WAS decals with Sharks logo on their helmets beginning with tonight’s Game 2 vs. Nashville to honor the passing of goalie coach Warren Strelow.

    Information is located on this link, 12th Paragraph titled, WAS.

  • Ron | April 13, 2007 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”69872″]I heard somewhere that Tiger Woods wears red on sundays as a show of support for his college Stanford. Has anyone else heard this?[/quote]

    Not true, although he went to Stanford. He does not wear red because of that. He typically wears red because that is the favorite color of his mom.

    He tries to wear red during the final day of the tournament.

    You notice that a lot of Sports Illustrated cover shots of him winning, he is wearing red.

  • Broker75 | April 13, 2007 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”69966″]The Sharks will wear WAS decals with Sharks logo on their helmets beginning with tonight’s Game 2 vs. Nashville to honor the passing of goalie coach Warren Strelow.

    Information is located on this link, 12th Paragraph titled, WAS.[/quote]
    Haven’t noticed Forsberg yet..when is he gonna make an appearance? I’m surprised he didn’t net the OT winner Wednesday night.

  • Mike | April 13, 2007 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”69915″][quote comment=”69807″]MLB is selling replica jerseys with current players names and Jackie Robinson’s #.

    Garciaparra

    Griffey[/quote]

    They’re also selling authentic jersey’s with just the number:

    Dodgers

    Reds

    And what Jackie Robinson Tribute merchandising campaign would be complete without a Phillies Cool Base jersey?[/quote]

    Don’t forget the Buccos

    http://shop.mlb.com/...

  • BA | April 13, 2007 at 5:05 pm |

    Dodgers owner Frank McCourt wore a coat with a custom lining on opening day. Kinda cool.
    Photo here

  • JeffB | April 13, 2007 at 5:08 pm |

    Now this, gentlemen, is a bobble head.

    I’m excited about the Minneapolis meeting. Islanders Fisherman, huh? Now I better think of something that no one else could possibly wear…

  • JeffB | April 13, 2007 at 5:09 pm |
  • jones | April 13, 2007 at 5:09 pm |

    in regards to the haka dance, it made me think of this. the trinity euless trojans do the dance before the games. they wear all black so it doesn’t look dumb, plus they have like 20 players who are actually Polynesian. here is a video, i think, im still not good at doing links http://www.youtube.c... they played Permian a few years back and spanked them. also i wore a knee band thing back in HS when i hyperextended my knee in football. it didnt really do anything for that, but on the other hand our trainer was really dumb.

  • Bill | April 13, 2007 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”69759″][quote comment=”69758″]There are going to be Uni Watch parties in ‘Sota, Chicago, and St. Louis… but no visit to Brew City or Mad Town??[/quote]

    I did a Milwaukee party back in August…[/quote]

    Any Cleveland visits on the horizon?

  • Mike Engle | April 13, 2007 at 5:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”69971″][quote comment=”69915″][quote comment=”69807″]MLB is selling replica jerseys with current players names and Jackie Robinson’s #.

    Garciaparra

    Griffey[/quote]

    They’re also selling authentic jersey’s with just the number:

    Dodgers

    Reds

    And what Jackie Robinson Tribute merchandising campaign would be complete without a Phillies Cool Base jersey?[/quote]

    Don’t forget the Buccos

    http://shop.mlb.com/...
    At least the Pirates won’t be wearing the bloody red vests on #42 day. Talk about potentially ruining a tribute…

  • jones | April 13, 2007 at 5:11 pm |

    oh and by the way they are the team thats on the gatorade commercial with bill parcells standing at the toll booth when they are on the bus at the end, but i dont think they have on the black jerseys in the commercial

  • jesse | April 13, 2007 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”69947″]Ok. I found this and this, but no all-black yet.

    This is nice, too, but what is the patch on it?[/quote]

    That is a cooperstown collection patch which is on all Mitchel and Ness Jerseys, that is a early 1980’s Willie Stargel batting practice shirt reproduced by M&N. It is a pull over with 1/4 zipper on the front.

  • BA | April 13, 2007 at 5:21 pm |

    Did the dodgers really have a road vest in 1999?

  • Kim | April 13, 2007 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”69909″][quote comment=”69902″][quote comment=”69882″][quote comment=”69880″]first: paul thanks for using my post on the front page, made my day

    second: minna if you’re looking for all black kits juventus would still be a pretty good bet. i don’t know many clubs with just black as a color. i know charlton from england has a black and gold jersey, but juve is the most monochromatic you can get[/quote]
    Why not just go all the way and look at the New Zealand Rugby team called the All Blacks?

    All Blacks[/quote]

    The soccer team also goes all black (or All White).[/quote]

    Huh, really? And it was the New Zealand cricket team who wore all-black, too. Looks like I have to move to NZ!

    Kim, any pics? All I’m seeing is All White.[/quote]

    This is a gallery with some pics, and here’s one (not so good about halfway down).

    But it seems that the current Nike uniform is either white, or blue.

  • benjamin in UK | April 13, 2007 at 5:25 pm |

    Minna, how about this? http://www.tigerleis...

    not all black, but a few years ago there was an all black version, its the Hull City away shirt BTW (they play in the 2nd division of englands football league) our home kit looks like this –
    http://www.tigerleis...

    and we are the team that came up with this masterpiece –
    http://newsimg.bbc.c...

    About the haka, i think a few ears ago (around 2001 i think) the entire English team stood in a line about 2 foot away from the all blacks – they recieved alot of critisism came their way for disrespecting them)

  • Lose Remerswaal | April 13, 2007 at 5:27 pm |

    can’t believe you left out the most obvious uniform superstition of all:

    Kurt Angle pulls down the straps of his singlet when he needs a boost!

  • benjamin in UK | April 13, 2007 at 5:31 pm |

    ok, so i was wrong about the haka and england, it was much longer ago according to this article – http://news.bbc.co.u...

    and sorry about the spelling and grammar, it’s been along day.

  • Dan | April 13, 2007 at 5:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”69976″]in regards to the haka dance, it made me think of this. the trinity euless trojans do the dance before the games. they wear all black so it doesn’t look dumb, plus they have like 20 players who are actually Polynesian. here is a video, i think, im still not good at doing links http://www.youtube.c... they played Permian a few years back and spanked them. also i wore a knee band thing back in HS when i hyperextended my knee in football. it didnt really do anything for that, but on the other hand our trainer was really dumb.[/quote]
    pretty sweet vid, but i still like the all blacks more because that is where the maori are from, plus in the second video look at the guy thats doing the yelling, he scares the shit out of me. also, without the pads you actually see their muscles, which is also really intimidating

  • Jeremy | April 13, 2007 at 6:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”69986″]can’t believe you left out the most obvious uniform superstition of all:

    Kurt Angle pulls down the straps of his singlet when he needs a boost!

    [/quote]

    That’s because Uni Watch is about sports.

  • schuby | April 13, 2007 at 6:34 pm |

    Anybody got something on this ?

  • Kyle at IU | April 13, 2007 at 6:35 pm |

    I would imagine that Tiger Woods’ red-on-Sunday thing is going to become a lot more prevalent in the near future, thanks to the final round of the Masters. True he had the red collar showing, but after that headwind dropped his ball in the bunker on 17, I don’t think Woods will be treating that black sweater kindly. The thing is…if this guy is the richest athlete on the planet, why doesn’t he have a red sweater?

  • Metsfan AZ | April 13, 2007 at 6:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”70009″]I would imagine that Tiger Woods’ red-on-Sunday thing is going to become a lot more prevalent in the near future, thanks to the final round of the Masters. True he had the red collar showing, but after that headwind dropped his ball in the bunker on 17, I don’t think Woods will be treating that black sweater kindly. The thing is…if this guy is the richest athlete on the planet, why doesn’t he have a red sweater?[/quote]
    What Tiger wears during a Major is a far more complicated thing than meets the eye. Of course he has input and in the end can wear whatever he wants. It is decided at least 6 months in advance. That way when the Nike rep comes into the pro shop in the fall for the spring line and in the spring for the fall line he already knows what Tiger will be wearing each day of the major. And the pro shop can have those exact shirts available. Tiger’s fans and Nike fans will very often come in and say “I want the shirt and vest Tiger wore on Friday” or something similar.
    I knew my stint in the golf business would come in handy some day.

  • Paul Lukas | April 13, 2007 at 6:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”69982″]Did the dodgers really have a road vest in 1999?[/quote]

    No. First of all, the image shown there isn’t a vest — it’s a jersey with contrast-color sleeves (just like what the Angels were wearing at the time. But the Dodgers’ version, which was shown in the 1999 MLB Style Guide (which is what “Dressed to the Nines” uses for its post-Okkonen uniform database), ended up being scrapped before the season started. It was never worn.

  • Stuby | April 13, 2007 at 7:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”70013″][quote comment=”69982″]Did the dodgers really have a road vest in 1999?[/quote]

    No. First of all, the image shown there isn’t a vest — it’s a jersey with contrast-color sleeves (just like what the Angels were wearing at the time. But the Dodgers’ version, which was shown in the 1999 MLB Style Guide (which is what “Dressed to the Nines” uses for its post-Okkonen uniform database), ended up being scrapped before the season started. It was never worn.[/quote]
    Thank goodness.

  • Jason | April 13, 2007 at 7:16 pm |

    The Pirates have their red on, and it looks horrible. They don’t have the alt. hat on though.

  • Nate from SlipperyRock | April 13, 2007 at 7:27 pm |

    I like how the Tribute Jerseys will have a similar number style for the 42 without changing the team number style too much.

    Tribute Jerseys

  • Kim | April 13, 2007 at 7:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”70018″]I like how the Tribute Jerseys will have a similar number style for the 42 without changing the team number style too much.

    Tribute Jerseys[/quote]

    By similar number style, do you mean arabic? Base 10?

    They’re all in the standard number style of the particular team, with no name. Which for some teams is a change.

  • Stuby | April 13, 2007 at 8:02 pm |

    They missed on the Braves number style. (Ignore the vertically arched lettering in the example – that has sadly been abandoned.)

  • Tim | April 13, 2007 at 8:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”70017″]The Pirates have their red on, and it looks horrible. They don’t have the alt. hat on though.[/quote]

    On the bright side, if anyone in the Pirates organization is as superstitious as those in the column today, maybe the spanking their taking will be for the best.

  • Dave A | April 13, 2007 at 8:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”70020″][quote comment=”70018″]I like how the Tribute Jerseys will have a similar number style for the 42 without changing the team number style too much.

    Tribute Jerseys[/quote]

    By similar number style, do you mean arabic? Base 10?

    They’re all in the standard number style of the particular team, with no name. Which for some teams is a change.[/quote]

    The two Blue Jays replicas on the MLB site have two completely different number fonts. The one on the left with no name is the team number style.

    Is the Wells jersey on the right a Dodgers style number?

  • Buckeye Mike | April 13, 2007 at 8:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”69810″][quote comment=”69779″]Very Baggy Uniform Sighting

    Last night while flipping through channels – National vs. Braves, nationals pitcher Colome, #43, was wearing a very oversized uniform, both jersey and pants. You could not see the belt because the jersey overhang was so extreme, but it must have been there because the pants would not have been able to defy gravity without a functional belt.

    Maybe this was a uniform choice based on performance – it is hard to see the release point when it is a gray blob making the pitch.

    Or, maybe this was a need for comfort due to an all over skin rash?

    Or, maybe lost luggage?

    Or, maybe this was a fashion look-at-me statement?

    Whatever the reason, the baggy trend seems to be picking up steam. Sorry, no photos.[/quote]

    wow, only here would someone notice something like that as I did. As soon as he took the mound I was laughing at how ridiculous he looked in his PJs….I’m not sure the pants and jersey were any baggier than say Man Ram’s, but they sure looked huge seeing as Colome is pretty thin…[/quote]
    We all seem to agree that the high socks look is best, Arod has never looked better, and I’ve always loved Jim Thome. but I think the slightly baggy pj pants looks better than the skin tight ones that some people wear. thos look really bad. and the tighter long pants on the reds, god I love them too, but they tend to look like sweat pants, not something a guy makein a million bucks should be wearing. the road pants need a stripe on them or something

  • Mr. Met | April 13, 2007 at 8:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”70018″]I like how the Tribute Jerseys will have a similar number style for the 42 without changing the team number style too much.

    Tribute Jerseys[/quote]

    The sad part is that they’re selling the Mets snow white jerseys with Jackie Robinson’s number. The last few seasons the Mets have tended (though not religiously) to wear pinstripes with blue caps on Sunday home games.

    At the least, if they do use the snow whites on Sunday, they should wear the blue caps/undershirts/socks.

  • =bg= | April 13, 2007 at 8:50 pm |

    agggggghhh!
    Just turned on the TV, and my Giants are in Pitts.
    On one hand, you’ve got the classic road grays of the Giants.

    And on the other hand………

  • Mr. Met | April 13, 2007 at 8:53 pm |

    Mets, as Gary Cohen pointed out, are using the black alternates for the first time this year……

  • Chad G | April 13, 2007 at 8:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”70060″][quote comment=”70020″][quote comment=”70018″]I like how the Tribute Jerseys will have a similar number style for the 42 without changing the team number style too much.

    Tribute Jerseys[/quote]

    By similar number style, do you mean arabic? Base 10?

    They’re all in the standard number style of the particular team, with no name. Which for some teams is a change.[/quote]

    The two Blue Jays replicas on the MLB site have two completely different number fonts. The one on the left with no name is the team number style.

    Is the Wells jersey on the right a Dodgers style number?[/quote]

    The first jersey is an Authentic, the second is a replica. That’s why the numbers are different. Replica jerseys all have the same generic number font, no matter the team.

  • Mr. Met | April 13, 2007 at 9:11 pm |

    I hate when people sell knock-offs and advertise them as “what the pros wear on the field!!!”

    http://www.collectib...

  • Tim | April 13, 2007 at 9:26 pm |

    Sorry if this has been said before, but have we noticed yet that on “dressed to the nines,” they have started (with 2004 and up) showing the uniforms with long pants and no socks?
    red sox

  • Tim | April 13, 2007 at 9:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”70069″][quote comment=”70060″][quote comment=”70020″][quote comment=”70018″]I like how the Tribute Jerseys will have a similar number style for the 42 without changing the team number style too much.

    Tribute Jerseys[/quote]

    By similar number style, do you mean arabic? Base 10?

    They’re all in the standard number style of the particular team, with no name. Which for some teams is a change.[/quote]

    The two Blue Jays replicas on the MLB site have two completely different number fonts. The one on the left with no name is the team number style.

    Is the Wells jersey on the right a Dodgers style number?[/quote]

    The first jersey is an Authentic, the second is a replica. That’s why the numbers are different. Replica jerseys all have the same generic number font, no matter the team.[/quote]

    Can I say how much this bothers me every time I see a “Jeter” Yankees jersey? It kills me to see Yankee fans sporting their jerseys with names on the back. I actually asked someone at a sporting goods store about why the names come on even the Yankees and they said that it would cost more to not have the name. I don’t think he actually knew, he was probably just referring to the authentic.

  • skridge | April 13, 2007 at 9:51 pm |

    Krevanchi,

    Never banned from anything in my life, much less a message board. The only time that I’ve tried to access the site was earlier today…

    Also, I’m formally welcoming myself to the board. If you’d like, you can send me cookies and/or brownies as a welcome gift. I’ve been reading since day one, but have yet to post.

    I also think that WVUTom and I will get along fine.

    Let’s Go Mountaineers!

  • BA | April 13, 2007 at 10:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”70015″][quote comment=”70013″][quote comment=”69982″]Did the dodgers really have a road vest in 1999?[/quote]

    No. First of all, the image shown there isn’t a vest — it’s a jersey with contrast-color sleeves (just like what the Angels were wearing at the time. But the Dodgers’ version, which was shown in the 1999 MLB Style Guide (which is what “Dressed to the Nines” uses for its post-Okkonen uniform database), ended up being scrapped before the season started. It was never worn.[/quote]
    Thank goodness.[/quote]

    I’ll second that.
    It would have been bad enough for the Dodgers to break from tradition and go with that idea…but to go with the fake vest would have been really lame. Obviously another great idea from when Fox owned them. (The same people that gave Chan Ho Park and Darren Dreifort sickening contracts…)

  • Paul Lukas | April 13, 2007 at 10:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”70064″][quote comment=”70018″]I like how the Tribute Jerseys will have a similar number style for the 42 without changing the team number style too much.

    Tribute Jerseys[/quote]

    The sad part is that they’re selling the Mets snow white jerseys with Jackie Robinson’s number. The last few seasons the Mets have tended (though not religiously) to wear pinstripes with blue caps on Sunday home games.

    At the least, if they do use the snow whites on Sunday, they should wear the blue caps/undershirts/socks.[/quote]

    It’s moot, cuz we’re getting a serious storm on Sunday — ain’t gonna be no ballgame.

  • Broker75 | April 14, 2007 at 12:12 am |

    there was a player on the Stars tonight wearing black laces, anybody catch who hit was?

  • Dan | April 14, 2007 at 12:14 am |

    [quote comment=”69757″]I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.[/quote]

    Except for the three-colored helmet and the blue shoes, I have to agree. I miss the powder blue roads, especially from the Phillies and the Cardinals. And despite what some people think, I love San Diego’s sand-colored roads. Too cool.

  • Broker75 | April 14, 2007 at 12:23 am |

    [quote comment=”70109″][quote comment=”69757″]I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.[/quote]

    Except for the three-colored helmet and the blue shoes, I have to agree. I miss the powder blue roads, especially from the Phillies and the Cardinals. And despite what some people think, I love San Diego’s sand-colored roads. Too cool.[/quote]
    I never actually understood what the Expos logo meant.

  • Broker75 | April 14, 2007 at 12:25 am |

    I can see and ‘e’ but no ‘M’ there seems to be a ‘b’

  • subway | April 14, 2007 at 12:38 am |

    [quote comment=”70111″][quote comment=”70109″][quote comment=”69757″]I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.[/quote]

    Except for the three-colored helmet and the blue shoes, I have to agree. I miss the powder blue roads, especially from the Phillies and the Cardinals. And despite what some people think, I love San Diego’s sand-colored roads. Too cool.[/quote]
    I never actually understood what the Expos logo meant.[/quote]

    e=expos
    b=baseball
    Throw in that thing in between the e and the b and the logo takes the shape of a script M.

  • Dan | April 14, 2007 at 12:38 am |

    [quote comment=”70113″]I can see and ‘e’ but no ‘M’ there seems to be a ‘b'[/quote]

    I just got a little info on a website (I’m still trying to figure out how to do the linking thing on comments). Take a closer look at the picture. The red part forms an “e”, the blue part forms a “b”, and the whole logo is an “m”. It stands for “Montreal Expos Baseball”.

  • Marcus | April 14, 2007 at 1:03 am |

    Remember when Paul did that contest for making the new Washington uni’s and one of the entries was just turning the “M” from the Expos upside down to make a “W?” That was BY FAR my favorite!!

    And Gagne was wearing the old grey cap tonight in his first game, where the M’s decided to break out the uglies… er… alternates.

  • Minna H. | April 14, 2007 at 1:51 am |

    [quote comment=”69976″]in regards to the haka dance, it made me think of this. the trinity euless trojans do the dance before the games. they wear all black so it doesn’t look dumb, plus they have like 20 players who are actually Polynesian. here is a video, i think, im still not good at doing links http://www.youtube.c... they played Permian a few years back and spanked them. also i wore a knee band thing back in HS when i hyperextended my knee in football. it didnt really do anything for that, but on the other hand our trainer was really dumb.[/quote]

    jones, yup, it is much better with black unis. I gotta agree with Dan that the All Blacks do it the best and are the most intimidating sans pads and helmets.

    benjamin in UK, I’m not a big fan of orange, but that second link is sweet-looking. Also, thanks for the interesting article. I wonder what the All Blacks thought of the challenge. I actually agree that perhaps they respected an opponent who accepted the challenge.

    jesse, thanks for the info on the patch–it was bugging me. Is there any way to take off such a patch without ruining the garment?

    Broker75

  • Minna H. | April 14, 2007 at 1:56 am |

    Oops. I hit the Say It! button too soon, and before I closed my tag, apparently. Sorry.

    Broker75, I thought you were joking about the chin stubble, but I actually like the idea of signatures being the scruff.

    JeffB, now THAT’S a bobblehead. Where did you get it? You could wear a St. Paul Saints uni; I doubt anyone else would wear one.

    Kim, thanks for the galley pics. I really like the black unis for the NZ soccer team.

    Paul, no game? Are you serious? That wouldn’t happen in a dome….

  • diz | April 14, 2007 at 6:35 am |

    am amazed that people don’t think Major League Baseball or it’s clubs (all profit-making entities btw) would try to milk the Jackie Robinson tribute for a few quid.

    It all pales in comparison to Formula One’s “tribute ” to big Jackie though… this season Lewis Hamilton became the first black F1 driver and nobody actually gives a toss. Even though it’s not a deliberate attempt, it dismisses anything baseball’s trying to do…

  • stuby | April 14, 2007 at 8:35 am |

    [quote comment=”70109″][quote comment=”69757″]I really miss this uniform, and I wasn’t even a fan of the team.[/quote]

    Except for the three-colored helmet and the blue shoes, I have to agree. I miss the powder blue roads, especially from the Phillies and the Cardinals. And despite what some people think, I love San Diego’s sand-colored roads. Too cool.[/quote]
    The 3-color hat is a big part of what makes it cool. I also like the lower-casee ‘expos’ lettering.

    BTW, Andre Dawson is wearing his stirrups like I used to do in little league (1977-1981).