Cézanne Estate Nets Hefty Licensing Fee from Bucs

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Back in September, I was given a look at the new MLB designs for the 2007 season, on the condition that I not divulge or discuss any of them prior to their official release dates. Most of them, like the Reds’ and Diamondbacks’ makeovers, were pretty conventional. Then I looked at the new Pirates design, and I couldn’t believe what I saw: MLB’s first-ever red vest, worn over black sleeves. Surely this must be a batting practice jersey or something like that, right? Nope, it was listed as the “Alternate Home” uniform.

For four months I sat on that knowledge, telling no one, certain that the whole thing must have been a mistake. There was no way the Buccos would really wear that, right? In recent weeks, as news outlets reported that the team would be “reintroducing red into the team’s color scheme,” I figured they’d just do a red-brimed cap or something like that — not the full-on bleeding vest. About a week ago, I told a friend from Pittsburgh about the red vest (she was horrified), but afterward I felt silly for having alarmed her, because I still couldn’t believe the team would actually go through with it.

On Friday, they proved me wrong. And you know, it’s not an ugly garment per se — I actually like red, black, and yellow together, and the team’s insignia still looks crisp. Really, this concept would make a swell bowling shirt. But as a Major League Baseball uniform — especially one for a team known for wearing black and gold — it’s a total fucking joke, and could single-handedly destroy PNC Park’s well-deserved reputation as a gorgeous place to watch a ballgame.

Incidentally, there’s been some rather disingenuous chatter coming from Pirates HQ about how “red used to be one of our original team colors back in the old days, after all.” True enough — and hey, it’s easy to see the natural evolution from long-ago red-inclusive Pirates uniforms like this, this, and this to the new design. Why, they’re obviously just preserving and honoring their heritage!

Remember the new Uni Watch standard: Is it good or is it stupid? I don’t think that question has ever been more rhetorical than it is here.

Party Update: Remember, Uni Watch party this Saturday, 3pm, at the 12th Street Bar in Brooklyn (just east of the corner of 12th St. and 8th Ave.; F train to 7th Ave. stop).

After extensive research and deliberation, it’s been determined that the San Francisco party (Feb. 7th, 7:30pm) will take place at Lefty O’Doul’s. I know I said I didn’t want a sports bar, but how many sports bars bill themselves as piano bars? I’m a sucker for that (even if they don’t actually have a piano anymore), plus it appears to be a pretty old-school kinda place. If anyone has a serious objection, let me know pronto. Otherwise, I’ll look forward to seeing you there next Wednesday evening.

And the Dallas party (Feb. 8th, 7:30pm) will be at the Ginger Man, a venue that I trust will be less controversial, since many people suggested it.

Uni Watch News Ticker: “I wandered into a bookstore yesterday and stumbled upon a book that seems to be right up your alley,” writes Billy Duss (see link at right). “Basically, the author has gone through most of the English club teams and documented their changing uniforms from 1980 to today. Most clubs change their uniforms every two years, so there is plenty to document.” … Interesting query from Aidan Brand, who writes: “Back when I was a small boy watching Hockey Night in Canada, all the players seemed to wear the same kind of pale blue ringer tee. I thought they were long-sleeved, but they may well have been short-sleeved. I couldn’t for the life of me find a decent photo, but you can catch a glimpse of what I’m talking about in this video of Louis Debrusk and Marty McSorley. Do you know anything about these? Were they as ubiquitous as I remember? If so, why was everyone wearing them? Who made them? Any idea where I could get one?” … Last week’s entry about Scholastic Coach magazine, and its many ads for Sand-Knit uniforms, triggered fond memories for Tim Walker: “I’m a former basketball manager (Indiana 76 NCAA Champion) and son of a high school basketball coach (Paul Walker — HS coach of Jerry Lucas!). My dad generally got new unis every year for the Middletown (Ohio) Middies, and I vividly remember helping him order those double knits! Here‘s a warm-up top from those years (Sand-Knit as well). Also: At Indiana, we switched over from leather Cons to Adidas in 1975-76. The Adidas Superstars from the factory had red leather stripes and a leather heel patch, but we often had to get a pair on short notice from the local sporting goods store, which only had the black Adidas stripes. They supplied the managers with a small bottle of crimson leather paint and we would color the stripes by hand. The end result was often pretty ragged, with paint getting on the white leather and the black showing through. I wish I had some pictures of that!” … My friend Ganda Suthivarakom, who runs the very wonderful food blog Eat Drink One Woman (and sings with David Byrne), featured me last Friday in her weekly “You Are What You Eat” feature. … “On the Colts sideline, I always see a person who looks vaguely official, wearing a red polo shirt with a Colts horseshoe on it,” writes Dave Ciskowski. “I figure there must be a reason for it — and perhaps it’s obvious — but I’ve never found an answer.” I’m assuming this is a coach who wants to make it easy for his group of players to identify him when he gives signals from the sideline, but does anyone know any specifics on this one? … Hilarious bit here about pointless Super Bowl merch (big thanks to Paul Hirsch). … Rob Bindeman just got back from attending the Twins Fantasy Camp in Florida. “Each ‘camper’ gets a full home Twins uniform and a BP jersey with his name and number of choice. In addition, the camp directors, Sports Adventures, encourage campers to bring their own uniform to support their favorite team (here’s camper Bill Phillips in a sweet Cubbies uni — note the ‘energy bar’ in his left hand). Former pros in attendance wear either a Twins uniform (like Harmon Killebrew, shown here with me) or the uniform of the team with which they’re most associated or currently affiliated.” … Dave Shucosky reports that the Wilkes-Barre Penguins will wear camouflage unis this Saturday. … Just to show I don’t completely hate Nike: Their “uniform builder” web pages (available for baseball, football, and lots of other sports) are pretty cool. … I’ve occasionally written about uni elements that don’t align (either across separate garments, or sometimes within the same garment). That prompted Flo Zenger to contribute the following: “These are pictures of a German (then) second division soccer team (Stuttgarter Kickers FC) back in 1993. They didn’t just have aligning stripes — their shirts and shorts actually formed the team’s logo. You can imagine what a mess that was when they were playing.” … “Here is a picture for the Japanese BJ-League All-Star Game uniforms,” reports Jeremy Brahm. “The player’s regular team is on the right side on the front of the uniform (the circle in the picture), and the team’s logo is on the back (also circled).” … Lots of great old Rochester Red Wings pics here (with thanks to Jesse Spector). … The Islanders wore 1972 throwbacks on Saturday night. … Speaking the Isles, there’s a good article about their “Fish Sticks” jersey design here (and check out the “More Jersey Stories” links at the bottom of the page — good stuff). … Jason Iapicco wants to know what Mo Williams is wearing on his left shoulder. … Decent article about team logos here. … Not quite uni-related, but Scott M.X. Turner has turned up YouTube video of the opening credits and theme songs for Monday Night Football in 1973 and CBS’s NFL football broadcast in 1970, both of which feature some amazing graphics. You can see them here and here, respectively.

 

166 comments to Cézanne Estate Nets Hefty Licensing Fee from Bucs

  • Chris Hilf | January 29, 2007 at 8:54 am |

    I think the ‘energy bar’ is in his left hand, not his right.

  • baude | January 29, 2007 at 8:57 am |

    blue hockey under shirt: mine was made by stanfield’s. Kinda like a lightweight thermal. no good pics on their site though…

  • KT | January 29, 2007 at 8:57 am |

    I’d say that book about soccer kits would be right up your alley.

    If you weren’t anti-soccer, that is.

  • Miguel | January 29, 2007 at 9:01 am |

    Paul, you’re already crazy skinny – why are you pounding the Diet Coke?

  • Wade | January 29, 2007 at 9:03 am |

    Not sure if this was mentioned over the weekend, but Alabama sported their good looking throwbacks in their loss to Arkansas over the weekend.

    NikeWorld

    ThrowbackWorld

  • Original Jim | January 29, 2007 at 9:06 am |

    Paul, I think you’re correct about the NFL coaches with the contrasting jerseys. Years ago on the Patriots, one of the coaches (either Charlie Weis or Romeo Crennel) would wear a different jersey than the rest of the coaches. I think it was Crennel, so I think it would have been the defensive co-ordinator who wore the contrasting shirt.

    I think there are a lot of NFL teams that do this as well.

  • Paul Lukas | January 29, 2007 at 9:06 am |

    [quote comment="48452"]I’d say that book about soccer kits would be right up your alley.

    If you weren’t anti-soccer, that is.[/quote]

    I’m not anti-soccer; I’m soccer-indifferent (and soccer-clueless).

  • Brian | January 29, 2007 at 9:17 am |

    i dont know what mo williams is wearing, but he did just return from a shoulder injury.

    i would guess it is some sort of protection, brace, etc. i just dont know exactly what

  • Chevy | January 29, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    Throughout the 80′s NHLers wore those light blue/dark blue undershirts made by Bauer. Here’s a pic.
    Bauer undershirt

    Today the same undershirts come in a veriety of colors, but at that time that style wasall they made.

  • Eli | January 29, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    The Monday Night Football song sounds a lot like the Linda Carter “Wonder Woman” song to me.

  • Banker Bill | January 29, 2007 at 9:30 am |

    Paul, did you notice in the NBC article about the Isles’ Fish Sticks jersey that in referencing all New York Area sports teams, they referred to our beloved Mets as BLUE and ORANGECICLE? DITCH THE BLACK!

  • scott | January 29, 2007 at 9:33 am |

    Baseball Weekly (or is that Sports Weekly?) reported a while back that the Pirates and Angels would both be sporting red alternates this year. Have the Angels introduced their version yet?

  • Tape | January 29, 2007 at 9:36 am |

    Paul, you’re absolutely right: the Pirates’ “alternate home” reds would be a great look for a bowling shirt. definitely a great bowling shirt.

    In fact, I kind of like it. I like the color scheme, with the black text with gold outline on the red field… but just not on the Pirates. It looks very, extremely, horribly bad for the Pirates.

    Also, the argument that “red used to be one of the original team colors” is horseshit. IF you go back to the first few decades of the 20th century, EVERY TEAM had either red, blue (royal or navy) or both as their color(s) — with the lone exception of the St. Louis Browns.

  • Asher | January 29, 2007 at 9:46 am |

    There’s an obit of Gump Worsley, the longtime Rangers goalie, in the NYTimes today: link

    It specifically mentions his status as one of the last goalies to go maskless, and the caption under his picture (displaying a quality flattop) reads “Gump Worsley played 20 of his 21 seasons without a protective mask.”

  • Rich Bruns | January 29, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    I’m fine with the Pirates having some red trim and the red bill on the hat but that’s just way too much. I give it two seasons at the most. Either that or we’ll be incredibly surprised and it’ll look great on the field.

  • Natron | January 29, 2007 at 9:49 am |
  • John | January 29, 2007 at 9:57 am |

    As far as the different color coaches shirt…I think the guy in the picture is this guy a defensive assistant for the Colts. The odd colored shirt guy is always the coach that is actually sending out the hand signals to the player(s) on the field looking for the defensive calls. He wears this shirt so that he is easy for the players to see when they look towards the sideline, otherwise he gets lost in the sea of blue and white.

  • Mark | January 29, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    The Pirates are making a departure in making red the primary color of the alternate jersey, but remember that the black jerseys they wore until last season had yellow letters and numbers trimmed in red. It’s not like this dropped out of the sky, or anything.
    Also, black, yellow and red are the colors of the Pennsylvania Railroad, so there’s precedent there.
    Beyond that, it’s a sweet looking jersey (save for their weird number font). Much better looking than that pinstriped POS they wear on Sundays.

  • John | January 29, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    Bad link on the Colts coach from above…try this guy

  • mg12 | January 29, 2007 at 10:04 am |

    Does anyone else think that those Japanese All Star BB uniforms are really sharp?

    I even like the player names on the front and team logo on back.

  • Ben | January 29, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment="48473"]Is everybody really that surprised?[/quote]

    VERY well said.

  • Talon Lardner | January 29, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    Drat… those Nike Team Uniform builders are going to be quite the fun little distraction. I know I played with the NFL’s little Custom Uniform preview more than I’d care to admit.

  • NickNH | January 29, 2007 at 10:25 am |

    Yeah, those nike pages are awesome.

    I even took the next step, messing around with the uniform colors and then going to NikeID to play around with different shoe options to match the uniforms.

    I would’ve killed to be able to order custom black/orange/white color scheme shoes back when I was playing CYO basketball.

  • Spif Me | January 29, 2007 at 10:25 am |

    Mo Williams appears to be wearing a protective undershirt made by a company called…really…Zoombang. They make protective shirts for football and other contact sports. They use these little pellets filled with ?something? to absorb the contact. Used a lot in FB for stingers & as a better alternative to regular rib protectors.

  • Pat | January 29, 2007 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment="48478"]Does anyone else think that those Japanese All Star BB uniforms are really sharp?

    I even like the player names on the front and team logo on back.[/quote]

    True that.

  • tBone | January 29, 2007 at 10:37 am |

    Paul, it must drive you nuts to have to sit on confidential information like the Pirates thing. I’ll bet you get exposed to a lot of uni material that you can’t talk about for weeks or months.

  • ryan | January 29, 2007 at 10:48 am |

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! By beloved Buccos got stupid!

  • Fleishman | January 29, 2007 at 11:00 am |

    Check the last question on this Q&A on Post-Gazette.com. I’m with that guy, and Dejan makes a great point in the last paragraph there.

  • Anthony Verna | January 29, 2007 at 11:12 am |

    I liked the link to the Isles’ jersey story on the NBC Sports website.

    As for the Buccos. . . I’m speechless.

  • Banker Bill | January 29, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment="48476"]The Pirates are making a departure in making red the primary color of the alternate jersey, but remember that the black jerseys they wore until last season had yellow letters and numbers trimmed in red. It’s not like this dropped out of the sky, or anything.
    Also, black, yellow and red are the colors of the Pennsylvania Railroad, so there’s precedent there.
    Beyond that, it’s a sweet looking jersey (save for their weird number font). Much better looking than that pinstriped POS they wear on Sundays.[/quote]

    I always liked their number font – because it’s different and unique – and easy to read.

  • interlockingtc | January 29, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    Wasn’t there another early Monday Night Football theme which was more guitar driven? Though I do love that keyboard/brass version, too.

  • Broker75 | January 29, 2007 at 11:30 am |

    These don’t look too bad, I guess you could say that they’re pirate colors.

  • Natron | January 29, 2007 at 11:36 am |

    I’m trapped at work, so the firewall permissions won’t allow me to search for imags, but some of you may recall that the Twins tried the red experiment for one season in 96, 97, 98 (something like that), and it failed miserably.

    I expect the same for the Bucs.

  • Pantherfid | January 29, 2007 at 11:38 am |

    Update from Tampa on the “new” Devil Rays unis with “more blue.” It seems that a picture appeared of them in the St. Pete Times. Also, the Devil Rays message boards had a thread discussing the “new unis.” I did not see the picture in the paper (nor can I find one on the net) and all seemed on the up and up…until I read the last entry on the thread…

    “You morons, those are the new BP jerserys.”

    I guess someone at the local sports station (WDAE) is not a loyal Uni Watch reader. Mystery solved.

  • UwantRadie | January 29, 2007 at 11:41 am |

    [quote comment="48481"]Drat… those Nike Team Uniform builders are going to be quite the fun little distraction. I know I played with the NFL’s little Custom Uniform preview more than I’d care to admit.[/quote]

    Can you link to the NFL one?

  • specs | January 29, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment="48504"]These don’t look too bad, I guess you could say that they’re pirate colors.[/quote]

    The thing that stands out to me in this photo is that LaRoche’s number is in a larger font size than the word “Pirates”. It seems like the team name would be the more important thing here, especially when there is a larger number on the player’s back, and given the fact that baseball umpires rarely need to quickly identify players by their numbers, as they do in basketball and football.

  • Rich Bruns | January 29, 2007 at 11:54 am |

    I don’t, maybe they’ve already done this one, but the Pirates should have an eyepatch giveaway day.

  • Pat | January 29, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment="48511"][quote comment="48504"]These don’t look too bad, I guess you could say that they’re pirate colors.[/quote]

    The thing that stands out to me in this photo is that LaRoche’s number is in a larger font size than the word “Pirates”. It seems like the team name would be the more important thing here, especially when there is a larger number on the player’s back, and given the fact that baseball umpires rarely need to quickly identify players by their numbers, as they do in basketball and football.[/quote]

    Yea, the number on the front does look a little bit on the big side. I think it would look a lot better tucked in between the bottom right corner of the arched letters and the buttons.

  • STUBZ(Dennis Abrams) | January 29, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment="48476"]The Pirates are making a departure in making red the primary color of the alternate jersey, but remember that the black jerseys they wore until last season had yellow letters and numbers trimmed in red. It’s not like this dropped out of the sky, or anything.
    Also, black, yellow and red are the colors of the Pennsylvania Railroad, so there’s precedent there.
    Beyond that, it’s a sweet looking jersey (save for their weird number font). Much better looking than that pinstriped POS they wear on Sundays.[/quote]
    Also, the bandana on the current Pirate logo is red (and has been in past years). Notice the letter outlines have red thrown in there too. Pittsburgh’s “P” logos have been red in the past as well. And I’ve never seen this one before.

  • Nolan | January 29, 2007 at 12:08 pm |

    Chicken skin…wow, that was unexpected.

  • Paul Lukas | January 29, 2007 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment="48521"]Chicken skin…wow, that was unexpected.[/quote]

    Nature’s perfect food. Developed a taste for it as a kid — my mom would serve roast chicken and I’d start by taking off the crispy skin, putting it in my mouth, and chewing it as long as I could to tease out all the tasty goodness. If you go to a Yakitori restaurant (Japanese place specializing in small grilled skewers of specific chicken parts), you can actually get little chicken skin kebabs. It’s the best!

  • DarkAudit | January 29, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment="48473"]Is everybody really that surprised?[/quote]

    If it wasn’t for Pena at the end, I could say they were all from the same season.

    Hell, in ’79, they could have been from the same week.

  • Adam Skrzynski | January 29, 2007 at 12:17 pm |

    It recently dawned on me that both of the Detroit Red Wings’ goalies, Dominic Hasek and Chris Osgood, wear non-tradional (non-modern) masks. Does anyone happen to know the last time the primary goalies of a hockey team both sported non-modern masks?

  • Banker Bill | January 29, 2007 at 12:18 pm |

    And I’ve never seen this one before.

    I never have either – more of a Pirates of the Caribbean undead thing there – different, that’s for sure.

  • Nolan | January 29, 2007 at 12:18 pm |

    By the way, when do we get the long awaited story on the brannock device? Also, what became of the Paul Lukas interview?

  • John | January 29, 2007 at 12:26 pm |

    [quote comment="48523"][quote comment="48521"]Chicken skin…wow, that was unexpected.[/quote]

    Nature’s perfect food. Developed a taste for it as a kid — my mom would serve roast chicken and I’d start by taking off the crispy skin, putting it in my mouth, and chewing it as long as I could to tease out all the tasty goodness. If you go to a Yakitori restaurant (Japanese place specializing in small grilled skewers of specific chicken parts), you can actually get little chicken skin kebabs. It’s the best![/quote]

    So at the dinner table you were the 8yo version of this guy.

  • Paul Lukas | January 29, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment="48527"]By the way, when do we get the long awaited story on the brannock device? Also, what became of the Paul Lukas interview?[/quote]

    The interview, which Todd Krvanchi graciously conducted with me, got shelved because another media outlet ended up conducting a very similar interview with me, and I don’t want to step on that outlet’s toes. Not sure when they’re gonna run their interview, but I hope soon.

    As for the Brannock Device: It’s my Very Favorite Object, a perfect piece of design, and lots of other cool things. Here‘s an article I wrote about it a while back (one of several such Brannock odes I’ve written over the years). Basically, I just like it, a lot, so I’ve adopted it as my personal graphic signature — it’s on my business card, my letterhead, and my right arm.

  • Heaps | January 29, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    Yes Yes Y’all…
    Give it up for the BRANNOCK DEVICE!

  • UwantRadie | January 29, 2007 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment="48532"][quote comment="48527"]By the way, when do we get the long awaited story on the brannock device? Also, what became of the Paul Lukas interview?[/quote]

    The interview, which Todd Krvanchi graciously conducted with me, got shelved because another media outlet ended up conducting a very similar interview with me, and I don’t want to step on that outlet’s toes. Not sure when they’re gonna run their interview, but I hope soon.

    As for the Brannock Device: It’s my Very Favorite Object, a perfect piece of design, and lots of other cool things. Here‘s an article I wrote about it a while back (one of several such Brannock odes I’ve written over the years). Basically, I just like it, a lot, so I’ve adopted it as my personal graphic signature — it’s on my business card, my letterhead, and my right arm.[/quote]

    What cartoon cat do you have on the other arm?

  • Jon in SLC | January 29, 2007 at 12:34 pm |

    Paul, I love roasted skin on the chicken as well. Wifey, being all health conscious (worried about fat), gives me hers and I gladly except!
    Wasn’t there another topic today as well? I thought we were going to post favorite jerseys?

  • Paul Lukas | January 29, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment="48535"]What cartoon cat do you have on the other arm?[/quote]

    Krazy Kat, which I consider to be High Art — maybe the highest of the 20th century. There’s a very good site devoted to the strip here.

    I like that we’ve got Cézanne and Krazy Kat mentioned on the same day.

  • Jon in SLC | January 29, 2007 at 12:42 pm |

    Or if I could think today i would accept.

  • Anthony Verna | January 29, 2007 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment="48541"][quote comment="48535"]What cartoon cat do you have on the other arm?[/quote]

    Krazy Kat, which I consider to be High Art — maybe the highest of the 20th century. There’s a very good site devoted to the strip here.

    I like that we’ve got Cézanne and Krazy Kat mentioned on the same day.[/quote]

    And I’d like to see this documentary: (NSFW warning on movie title)

    http://www.imdb.com/...

  • Philly Bill | January 29, 2007 at 12:45 pm |

    Not all that big on chicken skin, but I also avoid mayonnaise like it’s poisonous.

    I occasionally visit a restaurant with yakitori here in Dallas called Teppo (not to be confused with this guy). You can get chicken hearts, chicken joints (cartilage?), chicken gizzard, and chicken liver, but skin-on-a-stick might be a special order.

  • Albert | January 29, 2007 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment="48480"][quote comment="48473"]Is everybody really that surprised?[/quote]

    VERY well said.[/quote]

    Sorry, just finishd vomiting over those pictures! That said, I did read that the Mayor of Pittsburgh is running a “Get the REDD out” campaign to clean up the city. As such, the Pirates will wear these jerseys in 2007-only and only on Friday night home games. I guess it is P-town’s version of the inspi(red) campaign!

  • David | January 29, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    Is it just me or does it seem that the German soccer team, has some of the tallest soccer players ever? I mean, they’ve got the medium height guys in the front squatting, the short guys in the middle, and the extremely tall guys in the back. Is the back row standing on something? That’s what it seems like, but I can’t see anything. Especially tall is the guy second from left in the back row and third from right in the back row, next to the guy with the red mullet. Also, third from left in the middle row (he is the closest non-blue wearing player to the left), and the guy exactly to the right of the middle in the middle row (with the mustache), are both really short. Also check out the aforementioned mullets: guy second from the right on the top row and the second from right on the bottom row. Also, I’ve realized the two guys wearing pink jerseys are the keepers, but who are the three guys wearing blue? It seems like the two on the left are coaches, but they’re dressed more in the style of referees, and it seems like the guy on the right is a player. The same “giant effect” is seen in this picture. Whats up with that?

  • Johnny | January 29, 2007 at 12:57 pm |

    You know, I have a question, reagarding the sSand-Knit Company- I know it’s out of business now, but when did that happen?

  • Bill | January 29, 2007 at 12:59 pm |

    Paul, Why did MLB give you this sneak peak of the Pirates uniforms and then ask you to stay silent for so long? I mean, I can understand why you’d want to see them, but what’s in it for them? Just curious.

  • Matthew S. | January 29, 2007 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment="48546"][quote comment="48480"][quote comment="48473"]Is everybody really that surprised?[/quote]

    VERY well said.[/quote]

    Sorry, just finishd vomiting over those pictures! That said, I did read that the Mayor of Pittsburgh is running a “Get the REDD out” campaign to clean up the city. As such, the Pirates will wear these jerseys in 2007-only and only on Friday night home games. I guess it is P-town’s version of the inspi(red) campaign![/quote]

    There’s an episode of Scrubs where one of the doctors proclaims “I’m gagging and vomiting at the same time. I’m gavomiting!”

    In all seriousness, I don’t think red vests are terrible, but rather they just seem out of place. Since the Penguins switched to gold and black, all three Pittsburgh sports teams have been good about sticking to the gold and black color scheme and so this sudden infusion of red seems more weird than anything; like a bizarro version of the Pirates home uniforms.

    Now what’s going to happen if another team that sports red alternates (both road and home versions) happens to wear them on the same day? As it is, both the Astros and Reds have red Sunday jerseys. In addition, the road alternate jerseys for the Astros were the only Cool Base jerseys the Astros had last year and so consequently wore them for virtually every away game between late June and September.

  • Paul Lukas | January 29, 2007 at 1:08 pm |

    [quote comment="48549"]Paul, Why did MLB give you this sneak peak of the Pirates uniforms and then ask you to stay silent for so long? I mean, I can understand why you’d want to see them, but what’s in it for them? Just curious.[/quote]

    I didn’t say MLB gave me a look. I said I got a look, but I didn’t say (nor will I say) from whom.

    In general, sports leagues have to finalize their uniform designs well before a season starts, so all their merchandising partners, retailers, and licensees can have the right manufacturing specs regarding color, logos, etc. But the teams usually have specific marketing plans regarding how and when they want to roll out the designs. So the designs are usually media-embargoed/confidential/etc. until the official rollout dates. Sometimes the designs leak (as the Buffaslug did, e.g.), but usually they’re kept under wraps pretty well. Sometimes I get a sneak peek, sometimes I don’t. I devoted an entire blog entry to this topic last year — look here.

  • Pat | January 29, 2007 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment="48547"]Is it just me or does it seem that the German soccer team, has some of the tallest soccer players ever? I mean, they’ve got the medium height guys in the front squatting, the short guys in the middle, and the extremely tall guys in the back. Is the back row standing on something? That’s what it seems like, but I can’t see anything. Especially tall is the guy second from left in the back row and third from right in the back row, next to the guy with the red mullet. Also, third from left in the middle row (he is the closest non-blue wearing player to the left), and the guy exactly to the right of the middle in the middle row (with the mustache), are both really short. Also check out the aforementioned mullets: guy second from the right on the top row and the second from right on the bottom row. Also, I’ve realized the two guys wearing pink jerseys are the keepers, but who are the three guys wearing blue? It seems like the two on the left are coaches, but they’re dressed more in the style of referees, and it seems like the guy on the right is a player. The same “giant effect” is seen in this picture. Whats up with that?[/quote]

    Dude, seriously? I mean, no offense but… come on, seriously?

    On another note, Page 2 is giving Uni Watch a nice little shout out on its new and improved home page. Which looks quite snazzy if I do say so myself. Big improvement.

  • Dan | January 29, 2007 at 1:23 pm |

    Uniwatch got a mention on the newly redesigned ESPN Page 2

    If the page gets changed, the text in mention says “Page 2…… Where Uni Watch is already calling this a classic look.

  • David | January 29, 2007 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment="48557"][quote comment="48547"]Is it just me or does it seem that the German soccer team, has some of the tallest soccer players ever? I mean, they’ve got the medium height guys in the front squatting, the short guys in the middle, and the extremely tall guys in the back. Is the back row standing on something? That’s what it seems like, but I can’t see anything. Especially tall is the guy second from left in the back row and third from right in the back row, next to the guy with the red mullet. Also, third from left in the middle row (he is the closest non-blue wearing player to the left), and the guy exactly to the right of the middle in the middle row (with the mustache), are both really short. Also check out the aforementioned mullets: guy second from the right on the top row and the second from right on the bottom row. Also, I’ve realized the two guys wearing pink jerseys are the keepers, but who are the three guys wearing blue? It seems like the two on the left are coaches, but they’re dressed more in the style of referees, and it seems like the guy on the right is a player. The same “giant effect” is seen in this picture. Whats up with that?[/quote]

    Dude, seriously? I mean, no offense but… come on, seriously?

    On another note, Page 2 is giving Uni Watch a nice little shout out on its new and improved home page. Which looks quite snazzy if I do say so myself. Big improvement.[/quote]

    I’m not implying that there’s a German soccer team that’s got like 7 giants on the team. I’m just saying that its the first time that I’ve seen this type of effect and its pretty cool looking. On further investigation, I realized that they’re standing on something, but still, you’ve got to admit that it does look cool.

  • Dan | January 29, 2007 at 1:26 pm |

    I got beaten to the punch by 4 minutes. Oh well.

  • Greg | January 29, 2007 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment="48547"]Is it just me or does it seem that the German soccer team, has some of the tallest soccer players ever? I mean, they’ve got the medium height guys in the front squatting, the short guys in the middle, and the extremely tall guys in the back. Is the back row standing on something? That’s what it seems like, but I can’t see anything. Especially tall is the guy second from left in the back row and third from right in the back row, next to the guy with the red mullet. Also, third from left in the middle row (he is the closest non-blue wearing player to the left), and the guy exactly to the right of the middle in the middle row (with the mustache), are both really short. Also check out the aforementioned mullets: guy second from the right on the top row and the second from right on the bottom row. Also, I’ve realized the two guys wearing pink jerseys are the keepers, but who are the three guys wearing blue? It seems like the two on the left are coaches, but they’re dressed more in the style of referees, and it seems like the guy on the right is a player. The same “giant effect” is seen in this picture. Whats up with that?[/quote]
    Nice parody…I give it an “A”

  • BCrisp | January 29, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    Amayzing eBay item: A&M progrm
    For those of you who don’t know this is the game where the 12th Man tradition started. E. King Gill came in from the stands to dress up, but never play. One of the greatest college football traditions started at this game.
    To make it unicentric there are some good 1922 football photos on the pages shown.

  • Anthony | January 29, 2007 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment="48466"]Baseball Weekly (or is that Sports Weekly?) reported a while back that the Pirates and Angels would both be sporting red alternates this year. Have the Angels introduced their version yet?[/quote]

    The Angels have not officially introduced their versions yet, but an Angels fan with an insider friend at Majestic posted these photos on the Angels message board.

    This is only a replica, so the size is not in numbers, and it is the assumption by most on the board the authentic will look better. No clue yet how the names and numbers will appear on the back. The conversation on that message board can be found here:

  • The Gov'Nah | January 29, 2007 at 1:40 pm |

    Paul, i just noticed the new look Page 2. I caught a glimpse of your photo. You look like you could play some sort of Techie Villain in a sequel to Cloak & Dagger !

  • Anthony | January 29, 2007 at 1:41 pm |

    Oops, made a mistake, the message board link is HERE:

  • baude | January 29, 2007 at 1:42 pm |

    [quote comment="48525"]It recently dawned on me that both of the Detroit Red Wings’ goalies, Dominic Hasek and Chris Osgood, wear non-tradional (non-modern) masks. Does anyone happen to know the last time the primary goalies of a hockey team both sported non-modern masks?[/quote]

    last i can think of were richter and beezer

    and technically hasek’s helmet is modern. first time i remember hearing of it was in 2002 olympics. It is one piece as opposed to the two piece cooper. (Bad pic for showing the helmet, but great unis. goes great with the pads)

  • Matt D. | January 29, 2007 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment="48480"][quote comment="48473"]Is everybody really that surprised?[/quote]

    VERY well said.[/quote]

    No matter how bad uniforms get, they do need to go a ways to top the Pirates’ abominations fron the late 70′s and early 80′s. I once heard them compared unfavorably to the ubniforms that are usually found in the loser’s bracket of a softball tournament.

  • Greg | January 29, 2007 at 1:57 pm |

    Might just be me, but has anyone noticed the guys on Sports Center are commenting more about uniform styles…that sound very similar to comments on this board?

    Uni Watch effect perhaps?

  • Mike | January 29, 2007 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment="48568"]… two piece cooper.[/quote]

    Not really related, but I had a tonne of this card when I was younger. I probably still do somewhere.

    Anyone else think the the picture of the Isles throwbacks that Paul psted (which I think was the one Yahoo used to accomany their article) makes the Orange stripe look like the blue “points” on their third jerseys?

  • Buckeye Mike | January 29, 2007 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment="48455"]Paul, I think you’re correct about the NFL coaches with the contrasting jerseys. Years ago on the Patriots, one of the coaches (either Charlie Weis or Romeo Crennel) would wear a different jersey than the rest of the coaches. I think it was Crennel, so I think it would have been the defensive co-ordinator who wore the contrasting shirt.

    I think there are a lot of NFL teams that do this as well.[/quote]

    Of course I can’t find the pics now, but Todd Grantham is well know in cleveland for wearing bright orange and jumping around alot. He is the def Cord. too. and it makes sense, that is the side of the ball where, as said before, the signals come in fromthe sidelines, not the qb’s helmet. as I looked, all I could find was this pic of todd, and he’s not in his all orange. it’s true it’s true.

  • Joe Hilseberg | January 29, 2007 at 2:07 pm |

    So did anyone from Friday’s discussion do their homework and get pics of themselves in their favorite jersey?

  • Matthew S. | January 29, 2007 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment="48561"][quote comment="48547"]Is it just me or does it seem that the German soccer team, has some of the tallest soccer players ever? I mean, they’ve got the medium height guys in the front squatting, the short guys in the middle, and the extremely tall guys in the back. Is the back row standing on something? That’s what it seems like, but I can’t see anything. Especially tall is the guy second from left in the back row and third from right in the back row, next to the guy with the red mullet. Also, third from left in the middle row (he is the closest non-blue wearing player to the left), and the guy exactly to the right of the middle in the middle row (with the mustache), are both really short. Also check out the aforementioned mullets: guy second from the right on the top row and the second from right on the bottom row. Also, I’ve realized the two guys wearing pink jerseys are the keepers, but who are the three guys wearing blue? It seems like the two on the left are coaches, but they’re dressed more in the style of referees, and it seems like the guy on the right is a player. The same “giant effect” is seen in this picture. Whats up with that?[/quote]
    Nice parody…I give it an “A”[/quote]

    Perhaps these are the ‘Supermen’ that Nietzsche was referring to?

  • Jason | January 29, 2007 at 2:12 pm |

    Buried somewhere is last Friday’s “Nike War” was a request for people to submit photos of themselves in their favorite jerseys. I’m photo-illiterate, but anyway, here’s a shot of the favorite in my collection. I also have a black San Fransisco Spiders jersey that I’m pretty in love with. I can’t find a photo of one online right now, but it has a SportsChannel patch on it. Which makes me love it more.

  • Jason | January 29, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    Sorry, Joe!

  • Anthony | January 29, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    I’m not sure if everyone has seen all the MLB team’s batting practice caps yet, but if not, then here they are. Also, and I may get pounced on for this, but has Boston always had a red home batting practice cap? I’m only used to seeing them on the road so I’m used to the navy and red bill caps.

  • tessa | January 29, 2007 at 2:17 pm |

    I am possibly the last person in the world to be without a digital camera, but if I did, you would see a picture of me in this.

  • Greg | January 29, 2007 at 2:22 pm |

    First a Cezanne reference…now Nietzsche’s Ubermensch !!! On a blog about sports uniforms? Awesome!

  • Joe Hilseberg | January 29, 2007 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment="48582"]Buried somewhere is last Friday’s “Nike War” was a request for people to submit photos of themselves in their favorite jerseys. I’m photo-illiterate, but anyway, here’s a shot of the favorite in my collection. I also have a black San Fransisco Spiders jersey that I’m pretty in love with. I can’t find a photo of one online right now, but it has a SportsChannel patch on it. Which makes me love it more.[/quote]

    That is a sweet jersey!!! Ok…here are mine.

    Me in my custom O’s Murray Jersey (look at that vertical arch!)
    And my next 3 favs…and my silliest one that I’ll never wear in public, but may sell on ebay!

  • john | January 29, 2007 at 2:25 pm |

    In regards to the red shirted Colts coach. You are correct about it being easy to identify. In addition in college, a backup(usually 3rd string QB) will wear a red hat to give signals to the QB I dont have pictures of it, but non the less its preety regular. Another use of this tactic is with coordinators wearing a green or a red wristband to relay specific parts of plays or to give plays coverage options to two sets of players (ex. LB’s and secondary).

  • Florian | January 29, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    Greg, was just about to say the same thing.

    However, not all Germans are tall, blonde, muscular guys (on look into the mirror confirms that for me *g*) and unlike in the 90s we don’t wear mullets as a rule as well. So, just to clarify, yeah the last row is standing on something (most likely an “oktoberfest”-style long bench, which we call a beer bench, no idea whether there’s such a word in the American vernacular), more fotos of this technique (which is quite common around here) can be found amongst these search results.

  • Zack | January 29, 2007 at 2:28 pm |

    Mo Williams was wearing this

  • Ian K | January 29, 2007 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment="48590"][quote comment="48582"]Buried somewhere is last Friday’s “Nike War” was a request for people to submit photos of themselves in their favorite jerseys. I’m photo-illiterate, but anyway, here’s a shot of the favorite in my collection. I also have a black San Fransisco Spiders jersey that I’m pretty in love with. I can’t find a photo of one online right now, but it has a SportsChannel patch on it. Which makes me love it more.[/quote]

    That is a sweet jersey!!! Ok…here are mine.

    Me in my custom O’s Murray Jersey (look at that vertical arch!)
    And my next 3 favs…and my silliest one that I’ll never wear in public, but may sell on ebay![/quote]

    Yeah I forgot to take a picture of me in the Dodgers jersey. Perhaps for tomorrow.

    Joe, the Orioles unis look great. I remember your amazing interview about how you worked for the official Orioles uni seamstress (or whatever the correct term is). I bet the uniform has more personal value for you knowing how it was stitched.

  • Tim D | January 29, 2007 at 2:52 pm |

    [quote comment="48590"][quote comment="48582"]Buried somewhere is last Friday’s “Nike War” was a request for people to submit photos of themselves in their favorite jerseys. I’m photo-illiterate, but anyway, here’s a shot of the favorite in my collection. I also have a black San Fransisco Spiders jersey that I’m pretty in love with. I can’t find a photo of one online right now, but it has a SportsChannel patch on it. Which makes me love it more.[/quote]

    That is a sweet jersey!!! Ok…here are mine.

    Me in my custom O’s Murray Jersey (look at that vertical arch!)
    And my next 3 favs…and my silliest one that I’ll never wear in public, but may sell on ebay![/quote]
    Dude…the Blackhawks red sweater is one of the all time classics in sports…and this coming from a BLUES fan too!

  • Curtis | January 29, 2007 at 2:53 pm |

    Paul -

    If you’re a big fan of piano bars, then you better hit Pete’s Dueling Piano Bar in Ft. Worth when you come out for the Dallas stop.

  • K.C. | January 29, 2007 at 2:54 pm |

    I didn’t have a chance to check, but has anyone posted this bit from a Denver Post mailbag on the Rockies’ uniforms, complete with commentary on a few teams’ outfits?

    http://www.denverpos...

  • ID | January 29, 2007 at 2:55 pm |

    An extreme example of logo creep going wrong.

    Tattoo Artist Sued Over Penis Tattoo Prank

    January 23, 2007 10:03 a.m. EST

    Komfie Manalo – All Headline News Correspondent
    Buenos Aires, Argentina (AHN) – A tattoo artist from Argentina is facing a lawsuit after drawing a penis on the back of an Argentinean football fan instead of his favorite team’s official logo.

    Reports said the teenager approached the tattoo artist and asked him to tattoo the logo of the Boca Junior football team on his back.

    However, the tattooist was an avid supporter of the rival team and decided to play a prank on his young customer.

    After reaching home, the victim proudly showed his parents his new tattoo and was surprised to learn that a penis was tattooed on his back.

    According to Argentina’s Terra newspaper, the victim said, “I could not see what he was tattooing because he didn’t have a mirror. I only saw it when I got home and showed it to my parents.”

    A police spokesperson added, “The tattooist supports Boca Junior’s rival, River Plate, so he got annoyed when the teenager asked him to tattoo Boca’s symbol and decided to tattoo a penis instead. Unbelievable!”

    Story available here

  • Matt B | January 29, 2007 at 3:34 pm |

    Is it just me or does it seem that the German soccer team, has some of the tallest soccer players ever? I mean, they’ve got the medium height guys in the front squatting, the short guys in the middle, and the extremely tall guys in the back. Is the back row standing on something?

    There’s definitely something funny going on. Look at the space between the 2nd and 3rd guys from the left in the front row. There’s a sharp horizontal line right at the ankles of the guys in the 2nd row, and what appears to be a stretched-out soccer ball superimposed on the guys’ shins. Either some wacky photo manipulation or a mask to hide the riser behind the 2nd row?

  • Jim | January 29, 2007 at 3:36 pm |

    It’s Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins, not Wilkes-Barre Penguins.

  • DAVID | January 29, 2007 at 3:45 pm |

    mo williams is wearing a pad…he probably had a mild shoulder injury..this pad is maily used for contact sports under shoulder pads to cushion the blow.

  • Jon in SLC | January 29, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment="48582"]Buried somewhere is last Friday’s “Nike War” was a request for people to submit photos of themselves in their favorite jerseys. I’m photo-illiterate, but anyway, here’s a shot of the favorite in my collection. I also have a black San Fransisco Spiders jersey that I’m pretty in love with. I can’t find a photo of one online right now, but it has a SportsChannel patch on it. Which makes me love it more.[/quote]

    There are some great jerseys in there. I especially liked this one.

  • Nolan | January 29, 2007 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment="48590"][quote comment="48582"][/quote]
    That is a sweet jersey!!! Ok…here are mine.

    Me in my custom O’s Murray Jersey (look at that vertical arch!)
    And my next 3 favs…and my silliest one that I’ll never wear in public, but may sell on ebay![/quote]

    I didn’t realize the Raven’s had Puma uniforms, was this when they first entered the league? Did other teams have Puma as well. I seem to have blocked this period of time out.

  • Marc Smith | January 29, 2007 at 3:56 pm |

    [quote comment="48585"]I’m not sure if everyone has seen all the MLB team’s batting practice caps yet, but if not, then here they are. Also, and I may get pounced on for this, but has Boston always had a red home batting practice cap? I’m only used to seeing them on the road so I’m used to the navy and red bill caps.[/quote]

    Disappointing to see that the Cubs got rid of the bear overlaid on/through the ‘C’. While most of the alternate logos used on the BP hats (which for the most part have seemed to have gone) were non-events, I thought that one was great.

  • Kenny | January 29, 2007 at 4:03 pm |

    I am very biased towards this college uni

    Shot of myself in a jersey: Big fan of this one- it’s a Pagnozzi

    My dad bought me this for Xmas one year- hate it!

    Give me any Bears jerseys anyday

    Was a big fan of this one back in the day

    Grandmama

    All-time favorite though: 1982 Cardinals

    VIVA QUEBEC!!!

  • Joe Hilseberg | January 29, 2007 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment="48618"]I didn’t realize the Raven’s had Puma uniforms, was this when they first entered the league? Did other teams have Puma as well. I seem to have blocked this period of time out.[/quote]

    They never did…that’s just a replica. The authentics went in this order…Russell, Starter, Nike, Reebok

  • Nolan | January 29, 2007 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment="48626"][quote comment="48618"]I didn’t realize the Raven’s had Puma uniforms, was this when they first entered the league? Did other teams have Puma as well. I seem to have blocked this period of time out.[/quote]

    They never did…that’s just a replica. The authentics went in this order…Russell, Starter, Nike, Reebok[/quote]

    So why would there be a Puma replica if they never made the authentics? I’m not really into jersey collecting so maybe there’s something here I don’t understand.

  • StevieW | January 29, 2007 at 4:25 pm |

    Paul,
    A couple of comments. I completely agree on your addiction to chicken skin. Grilled chicken skin, preferably with a light barbecue sauce is incredible in it’s goodness.

    Nice to see you supporting craft beer again. The Ginger Man has a nice lineup of drafts. I thought maybe you would hit the Toronado in S.F.

    Also, I thought Uni Watch hedgefund analyst/manager Jenny Strausberg (sp?) was your s.o.? Or did I completely miss that one?

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | January 29, 2007 at 4:28 pm |

    two i can guarantee that had authentic game day jerseys made by puma.
    eagles
    titans

  • Anthony Verna | January 29, 2007 at 4:29 pm |

    I really wanted to go to Sat’s party, but between looking at real estate and my dad’s birthday, I won’t make it.

    *Grumbles*

    Good beer: http://www.greatlake...

  • Greg | January 29, 2007 at 4:30 pm |

    Puma did make some NFL unis at some point. I have a Bengals authentic by Puma. I think it was the later 90s and was only for a few teams.

  • maximumK | January 29, 2007 at 4:33 pm |

    [quote comment="48590"][quote comment="48582"]Buried somewhere is last Friday’s “Nike War” was a request for people to submit photos of themselves in their favorite jerseys. I’m photo-illiterate, but anyway, here’s a shot of the favorite in my collection. I also have a black San Fransisco Spiders jersey that I’m pretty in love with. I can’t find a photo of one online right now, but it has a SportsChannel patch on it. Which makes me love it more.[/quote]

    That is a sweet jersey!!! Ok…here are mine.

    Me in my custom O’s Murray Jersey (look at that vertical arch!)
    And my next 3 favs…and my silliest one that I’ll never wear in public, but may sell on ebay![/quote]

    I love the Darth Vader Ravens duds, Joe. You say you’d never wear it in public, but I would hole that you’d wear that to a game you attend in person. That’s some classic fan gear.

    Ok, to throw my hat in the ring…

    me with my jerseys

    2002 #28 Darrell Green Redskins Home
    2005 Nationals Home (plain)
    2001 #68 Jaromir Jagr Captals Home (go ahead and laugh…)
    2001 #23 Michael Jordan Wizards Away (keep laughing)
    2006 #82 Antwaan Randle El Redskins Home
    2004 #0 Patrick Ewing Jr. Indiana Hoosiers Away

    They’re all replicas, ’cause I’m still a poor college student. Once I get the money, though, I will be bringing in some serious sportswear. (also, pardon the mess in the pic…like I said: college student)

  • Judd | January 29, 2007 at 4:35 pm |

    Here is a pic of myself with my my favorite uni… sylish, classy and understated.

    If you want some accompanying audio, go here

  • Matthew S. | January 29, 2007 at 4:36 pm |

    One thing you will see plenty of at Gingerman (just spent several hours there Saturday night actually) is Houston-based St. Arnold’s.

    http://www.saintarno...

    They have a great variety too: http://www.saintarno...

    I highly suggest the St. Arnold’s Lawnmower (if available, not sure if they brew it year round): http://www.saintarno...

    Not sure if I’ll be able to make the Dallas party since I have plans for that night already. If at all possible, I’ll stop by though.

  • Chad G | January 29, 2007 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment="48642"][quote comment="48590"][quote comment="48582"]Buried somewhere is last Friday’s “Nike War” was a request for people to submit photos of themselves in their favorite jerseys. I’m photo-illiterate, but anyway, here’s a shot of the favorite in my collection. I also have a black San Fransisco Spiders jersey that I’m pretty in love with. I can’t find a photo of one online right now, but it has a SportsChannel patch on it. Which makes me love it more.[/quote]

    That is a sweet jersey!!! Ok…here are mine.

    Me in my custom O’s Murray Jersey (look at that vertical arch!)
    And my next 3 favs…and my silliest one that I’ll never wear in public, but may sell on ebay![/quote]

    I love the Darth Vader Ravens duds, Joe. You say you’d never wear it in public, but I would hole that you’d wear that to a game you attend in person. That’s some classic fan gear.

    Ok, to throw my hat in the ring…

    me with my jerseys

    2002 #28 Darrell Green Redskins Home
    2005 Nationals Home (plain)
    2001 #68 Jaromir Jagr Captals Home (go ahead and laugh…)
    2001 #23 Michael Jordan Wizards Away (keep laughing)
    2006 #82 Antwaan Randle El Redskins Home
    2004 #0 Patrick Ewing Jr. Indiana Hoosiers Away

    They’re all replicas, ’cause I’m still a poor college student. Once I get the money, though, I will be bringing in some serious sportswear. (also, pardon the mess in the pic…like I said: college student)[/quote]

    it says your photos are private

  • Chad G | January 29, 2007 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment="48624"]I am very biased towards this college uni

    Shot of myself in a jersey: Big fan of this one- it’s a Pagnozzi

    My dad bought me this for Xmas one year- hate it!

    Give me any Bears jerseys anyday

    Was a big fan of this one back in the day

    Grandmama

    All-time favorite though: 1982 Cardinals

    VIVA QUEBEC!!![/quote]

    Only the last 2 links worked

  • ryan | January 29, 2007 at 4:43 pm |

    [quote comment="48546"][quote comment="48480"][quote comment="48473"]Is everybody really that surprised?[/quote]

    VERY well said.[/quote]

    Sorry, just finishd vomiting over those pictures! That said, I did read that the Mayor of Pittsburgh is running a “Get the REDD out” campaign to clean up the city. As such, the Pirates will wear these jerseys in 2007-only and only on Friday night home games. I guess it is P-town’s version of the inspi(red) campaign![/quote]

    Sadly, there is no getting the REDD out. Instead, the current mayor is carrying out our former (late) mayor’s campsign to REDD UP Pittsburgh. Sadly, it’s based on Western PA Yinzer slang for “cleaning up” a space.

    I’m a proud Pittsburgher, but I just can’t get over how bad the campaign’s name is. I guess it’ll communicate with most folks, so that’s cool. It just makes me buy Advil.

  • david goodfriend | January 29, 2007 at 4:44 pm |

    If u go to amazon.com….go to the apparel section…and type in 2007 batting practice caps..they have pics of most of the new ones

    I like the bp caps….the game ones are to hot for most of the year…i wear them during the winter..the bp caps are very comfortable even on a hot summer day.

    but I am not crazy bout the new designs

  • Warren Thompson | January 29, 2007 at 4:46 pm |

    [quote comment="48476"]
    Also, black, yellow and red are the colors of the Pennsylvania Railroad, so there’s precedent there.
    [/quote]

    The “red” of the late, lamented Pennsylvania Railroad was actually Tuscan red, a shade somewhere between maroon and USC’s cardinal.

  • Jonathon | January 29, 2007 at 4:49 pm |
  • drog | January 29, 2007 at 4:55 pm |

    But as a Major League Baseball uniform… it’s a total fucking joke, and could single-handedly destroy PNC Park’s well-deserved reputation as a gorgeous place to watch a ballgame.

    Seriously…don’t get the complaint…with all of the atrocious designs used throughout sports in the last 30 years, this is stylish and discreet, and although it by-passes elements of the Pirates recent tradition, makes a nod back to the past

  • UwantRadie | January 29, 2007 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment="48643"]Here is a pic of myself with my my favorite uni… sylish, classy and understated.

    If you want some accompanying audio, go here…[/quote]

    ONE OF THE BEST LOGOS IN ALL OF SPORTS!

    Add that to the old school Brewers logo and you have the best 2 logos in the history of sports.

  • Doak Walker | January 29, 2007 at 4:58 pm |

    Colts also wore Puma jersey

  • Jonathon | January 29, 2007 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment="48626"][quote comment="48618"]I didn’t realize the Raven’s had Puma uniforms, was this when they first entered the league? Did other teams have Puma as well. I seem to have blocked this period of time out.[/quote]

    They never did…that’s just a replica. The authentics went in this order…Russell, Starter, Nike, Reebok[/quote]

    there were definitely Puma on-field jerseys; back when teams were split b/w Nike, Adidas, Puma, etc. The Ravens wore Nike on the field, but each manufacturer could make every teams’s replica jersey. As far as on-the-field Puma jerseys, I know the Rams and Titans wore them (Super Bowl XXXIV), and I’m sure there were others.

  • Judd | January 29, 2007 at 5:03 pm |

    Sorry, couldn’t resist… my second favorite uni… You should hum “Carmen” for the full effect.

  • Dan | January 29, 2007 at 5:05 pm |

    While the Pro Bowl jerseys are as horid as ever, it’s nice to see the team logos on the sleeves. I wonder if we’ll see that in the game, or if it’s only on the replicas.

  • Dan | January 29, 2007 at 5:06 pm |

    Someone smarter than me needs to fix the italics thing…..

  • maximumK | January 29, 2007 at 5:10 pm |

    crap…I accept responsibility for messing up the italic thing for the umpteenth time, even if I don’t know how I did it.

    Side note on my jerseys: I may be jumping the bandwagon of my adopted hometown (Indianapolis) depending on the outcome of Sunday’s little football game, so I may end up with a Marvin Harrison jersey. Also, that Jordan jersey will be exiting my life once I get the money for a gold Arenas jersey.

  • Judd | January 29, 2007 at 5:13 pm |

    Closed

  • Metsfan AZ | January 29, 2007 at 5:14 pm |

    [quote comment="48661"]crap…I accept responsibility for messing up the italic thing for the umpteenth time, even if I don’t know how I did it.

    Side note on my jerseys: I may be jumping the bandwagon of my adopted hometown (Indianapolis) depending on the outcome of Sunday’s little football game, so I may end up with a Marvin Harrison jersey. Also, that Jordan jersey will be exiting my life once I get the money for a gold Arenas jersey.[/quote]
    What’s an adopted hometown? At least you admit to jumping on the bandwagon and even throw in the condition of the outcome of the game.
    I tried to close the tags but I really don’t know. I messed it up the other day and couldn’t fix it.

  • Joe Hilseberg | January 29, 2007 at 5:18 pm |

    [quote comment="48632"]So why would there be a Puma replica if they never made the authentics? I’m not really into jersey collecting so maybe there’s something here I don’t understand.[/quote]

    Pre-RBK jersey monopoly any company could make replicas that shelled out the bucks for the licensing fees to the NFL.

    And I LOVE the Whale jersey!

    “Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver 3 or 4 times in a lifetime!” Kudos if you know the movie!

  • Judd | January 29, 2007 at 5:23 pm |

    Mallrats or Chasing Any…

    [quote comment="48667"][quote comment="48632"]So why would there be a Puma replica if they never made the authentics? I’m not really into jersey collecting so maybe there’s something here I don’t understand.[/quote]

    Pre-RBK jersey monopoly any company could make replicas that shelled out the bucks for the licensing fees to the NFL.

    And I LOVE the Whale jersey!

    “Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver 3 or 4 times in a lifetime!” Kudos if you know the movie![/quote]

  • Matthew S. | January 29, 2007 at 5:26 pm |

    [quote comment="48667"][quote comment="48632"]So why would there be a Puma replica if they never made the authentics? I’m not really into jersey collecting so maybe there’s something here I don’t understand.[/quote]

    Pre-RBK jersey monopoly any company could make replicas that shelled out the bucks for the licensing fees to the NFL.

    And I LOVE the Whale jersey!

    “Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver 3 or 4 times in a lifetime!” Kudos if you know the movie![/quote]

    It’s Mallrats right after Jason Lee says the “Breakfast, shmekfast” line to Shannen Doherty…yeah I’ve seen that movie too many times.

  • Kenny | January 29, 2007 at 5:30 pm |

    [quote comment="48646"][quote comment="48624"]I am very biased towards this college uni

    Shot of myself in a jersey: Big fan of this one- it’s a Pagnozzi

    My dad bought me this for Xmas one year- hate it!

    Give me any Bears jerseys anyday

    Was a big fan of this one back in the day

    Grandmama

    All-time favorite though: 1982 Cardinals

    VIVA QUEBEC!!![/quote]

    Only the last 2 links worked[/quote]

    College uni


    myself in the Pagnozzi

    I hate that I own this one

    Give me any Bears jersey anyday

    Was a big fan of this one

    Grandmama

    And the other two work

  • BP | January 29, 2007 at 5:33 pm |

    I was curious to combine one UniWatch topic with another, and how about that: nearly a perfect match.

  • Opie | January 29, 2007 at 5:34 pm |

    I don’t think Paul is that fucking stupid to actually believe this. But a uniform destroying a stadium’s reputation. Come on.

  • Patrick Jonas | January 29, 2007 at 5:45 pm |

    On the red vest thing–the Blue Jays wore one for Canada day in 97 or 98.

  • Mark Dancer | January 29, 2007 at 5:56 pm |

    I actually own an authentic white Eddie George jersey from the Puma days, and a new authentic Reebok Vince Young (alternate). The Puma jersey is better quality than the Reebok one. it has more weight to the fabric, and the stitching is tighter on the logos. I was really surprised by that when my Vince Young jersey came in the mail. The difference in quality is obvious when you have them side-by-side.

  • Nolan | January 29, 2007 at 5:59 pm |

    How sad is it that the MLB style guide photos don’t even show the stirrups like they used to.

  • Andy from KC | January 29, 2007 at 6:04 pm |

    I’m really liking the jersey pics everyone has sent in so far. Thank you all!

    My contribution … really hope these links work, and I apologize for the low quality, but my camera’s being kinda ghetto today.

    I am wearing my 1980 George Brett throwback. I know the Royals are more known for their powder blues, and I do have one, but the home white takes me back to when I was a kid, and Kauffman Stadium was still Royals Stadium with its orange seats and Astroturf. I even miss how it used to reek of cigarette smoke.

    But the really cool thing is what I’m holding up — it’s a game-worn 1969 Royals flannel jersey. It’s number 27, which was worn by Wally Bunker, the Royals’ Opening Day starter in 1969 (their inaugural season). There’s a tag on the front saying “set 1 1969,” meaning it was worn early in the year. I like to think it’s the jersey Bunker was wearing when he threw the first official pitch in Royals history, but I guess there’s no way to know that for sure.

  • Josh | January 29, 2007 at 6:31 pm |

    Puma DID make NFL authentics for a couple of years. They bought Logo Athletic so they took over the teams (AZ Cardinals, STL Rams & TN Titans come to mind among others) The Super Bowl between the Titans and Rams had both teams wearing Puma unis. I’m too lazy to look for pics online though.

    Here’s my Favorite jersey by the way

  • Jon in SLC | January 29, 2007 at 6:43 pm |

    To jump into the jersey favorites topic –

    Baseball-
    Basketball-
    Football-
    Hockey-
    (Close Seconds)
    My work uniform

    I’ll post the jerseys that I own after I get home. Nothing too spectacular there. I hope the links work.

  • Lindsay Oliver | January 29, 2007 at 6:47 pm |

    My jerseys

    From left to right:
    Boston Red Sox
    New England Patriots
    Patriots retro throwback
    Worcester Sharks
    Worcester IceCats
    Boston Bruins
    Middlebury College Panthers

    I also have an IceCats jersey in their original design, but I don’t have it at school with me. That’s probably my favorite jersey, since the one I have is autographed by the entire 1997 team.

  • Jeff | January 29, 2007 at 6:54 pm |

    Some of my Jersey collection. Just about all of them game worn!

    http://www.imagestat...

  • Chuck Ryals | January 29, 2007 at 6:59 pm |

    [quote comment="48541"][quote comment="48535"]What cartoon cat do you have on the other arm?[/quote]

    Krazy Kat, which I consider to be High Art — maybe the highest of the 20th century. There’s a very good site devoted to the strip here.

    I like that we’ve got Cézanne and Krazy Kat mentioned on the same day.[/quote]

    Krazy Kat rules! There are some great Krazy Kat books from Fantagraphics Books, check them out!

  • u kno DBo | January 29, 2007 at 7:01 pm |

    interesting/funny:

    not sure if this has been posted yet…

    http://www.cracked.c...

  • Jeff | January 29, 2007 at 7:02 pm |

    Paul…you like these??? Game issued Cleveland Browns Socks and Orange Pants!

    http://www.imagestat...

  • Jeff | January 29, 2007 at 7:07 pm |

    Sorry Browns Socks and Pants!

    http://www.imagestat...

  • Luke Kyle | January 29, 2007 at 7:10 pm |

    Hey all. Just want to jump in on the hockey talk before it dies down. I’ve played hockey for about 12 years now, and have fond memories of the blue Bauer underjerseys. The main purpose of those things was to keep all our equipment on ourselves. Usually that wouldn’t be a problem anyway, but if you get a big defenceman with a huge slapshot that likes to keep his pads loose for a smoother motion, which in turn makes them wear a bigger jersey, you could get those things to turn sideways with the right kind of hit.

    On a side note, one woman I played with in a co-rec league took one of my old underjerseys to use as pajama tops. (I’m 6’1″ 220, she’s 5’2″, 100 soaking wet) She said it’s the most comfortable thing she’s worn to bed. Hooray for alternate uses of unis!

  • luvsmedley | January 29, 2007 at 7:20 pm |

    Has this site been having problems? I typed a lengthy respose on the Pumas issue—and it said THIS SITE CANNOT BE FOUND. beh.

  • Jeff Wilcox | January 29, 2007 at 8:04 pm |

    Ken Dryden is getting his jersey retired by the Canadians right now, and all the old players there to talk are wearing throwback jerseys. But, Dave Dryden, Ken’s brother who played for Buffalo, is wearing the current 3rd jersey. Throwback logo, but with the chest number. You would think he would get a true throwback for something like this.

  • Justin | January 29, 2007 at 8:40 pm |

    Haters of the Pirates alt jerseys should have seen it coming with their 1999 turn ahead the clock jersey.

    Looks like the organization knows what its doing after all.

  • john | January 29, 2007 at 9:06 pm |

    [quote comment="48728"]Ken Dryden is getting his jersey retired by the Canadians right now, and all the old players there to talk are wearing throwback jerseys. But, Dave Dryden, Ken’s brother who played for Buffalo, is wearing the current 3rd jersey. Throwback logo, but with the chest number. You would think he would get a true throwback for something like this.[/quote]

    That’d be Galisano’s doing. He wants his creation to be seen, not the original.

  • Minna H. | January 29, 2007 at 9:35 pm |

    Thanks y’all for posting your favorite jerseys, though I am surprised not to see Teebz posting his hockey jerseys.

    Jon in SLC: next time please warn me before you post two of defunct MN teams’ jerseys so I can properly brace myself. Thanks.

    I still like the Pirates’ vest because red is my second favorite color, but I can see why people don’t think it’s right for the Pirates. As it is an alternate, they won’t be wearing it very often, so that should bring some (cold) comfort.

    Natron, you have a North Stars jersey, right? Post it!

    That undershirt that Mo Williams is wearing looks like a flak jacket.

    Chicken skin rules.

  • JJD | January 29, 2007 at 9:52 pm |

    I was watching SB XIII highlights last night, and I found it amazing that while all of the 49ers (as best I could tell) were wearing nameplates with a serif-typeface, Joe Montana was wearing one with sans-serif type. I seem to recall reading that Joe’s wife had given him the same jersey he’d worn in SB XIX over Miami, so that could explain the difference.

    I watched a TON of SB highlights on NFL Network last night. :)

  • Yoni R. | January 29, 2007 at 9:54 pm |

    For exactly 66% of my life the Pirates have had straight losing seasons. Why must they be even bigger losers now? all I can picture in my head when I see that LaRoche picture is Danny from “The Shining” saying REDRUM……REDRUM.

    And to think…those All star uni’s looked so good….

  • Billy B. | January 29, 2007 at 10:03 pm |

    I thought of last week’s cheesesteak discussion during world studies today. The teacher said something about Geno’s not serving people that don’t speak English. I also got a chance to bring up an SNL sketch in that same period. Not many times that cheesesteak and Laser Cats come up during the same period.

  • schuby | January 29, 2007 at 10:30 pm |

    [quote comment="48643"]Here is a pic of myself with my my favorite uni… sylish, classy and understated.

    If you want some accompanying audio, go here…[/quote]

    Can someone tell me what team that is?

  • Andrew | January 29, 2007 at 10:32 pm |

    You can’t forget pics of The Great One in the blue undershirt.

  • Minna H. | January 29, 2007 at 10:34 pm |

    [quote comment="48753"][quote comment="48643"]Here is a pic of myself with my my favorite uni… sylish, classy and understated.

    If you want some accompanying audio, go here…[/quote]

    Can someone tell me what team that is?[/quote]

    schuby, I’m guessing the Hartford Whalers (from the second link). Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

  • Jon in SLC | January 29, 2007 at 10:35 pm |

    No prob, I’ll warn away next time. I figured the pic from the ad I use for work with the shit-eatin’ grin would be the cherry on that sundae. Where is Teebz? I was waiting to see what he’d put up. I am in between two houses, with half my things in storage until the basement is finished. So I looked and I only have three of my jerseys currently with me. All football. My hockey and baseball are packed. But when I get them out I’ll take a pic of me in the beautiful Univ. of Maine jersey, just for you Minna.

  • Jon in SLC | January 29, 2007 at 10:39 pm |

    [quote comment="48753"][quote comment="48643"]Here is a pic of myself with my my favorite uni… sylish, classy and understated.

    If you want some accompanying audio, go here…[/quote]

    Can someone tell me what team that is?[/quote]

    That Whalers jersey is a thing of beauty.

  • Dave A | January 29, 2007 at 10:42 pm |

    [quote comment="48755"][quote comment="48753"][quote comment="48643"]Here is a pic of myself with my my favorite uni… sylish, classy and understated.

    If you want some accompanying audio, go here…[/quote]

    Can someone tell me what team that is?[/quote]

    schuby, I’m guessing the Hartford Whalers (from the second link). Someone correct me if I’m wrong.[/quote]

    Yup. it’s the Whalers.

  • schuby | January 29, 2007 at 10:44 pm |

    [quote comment="48759"][quote comment="48755"][quote comment="48753"][quote comment="48643"]Here is a pic of myself with my my favorite uni… sylish, classy and understated.

    If you want some accompanying audio, go here…[/quote]

    Can someone tell me what team that is?[/quote]

    schuby, I’m guessing the Hartford Whalers (from the second link). Someone correct me if I’m wrong.[/quote]

    Yup. it’s the Whalers.[/quote]

    Yea, i see it now. The H and the W and the whale fin.

  • Minna H. | January 29, 2007 at 10:47 pm |

    [quote comment="48756"]No prob, I’ll warn away next time. I figured the pic from the ad I use for work with the shit-eatin’ grin would be the cherry on that sundae. Where is Teebz? I was waiting to see what he’d put up. I am in between two houses, with half my things in storage until the basement is finished. So I looked and I only have three of my jerseys currently with me. All football. My hockey and baseball are packed. But when I get them out I’ll take a pic of me in the beautiful Univ. of Maine jersey, just for you Minna.[/quote]

    Yeah, Jon, that pic of you doesn’t quite fit in with the theme (though I suppose it is your uniform), but you’re a good-looking guy, so post away. University of Maine????? University of MN, fool! Represent.

    I didn’t actually go there, but I have to defend the hometown boys and the best hockey team in the college ranks. I’m not crazy about the grinning Golden Gopher, but it could be worse.

    Teebz, Teebz? Bueller, Bueller?

  • Kenny | January 29, 2007 at 11:00 pm |

    [quote comment="48743"]Thanks y’all for posting your favorite jerseys, though I am surprised not to see Teebz posting his hockey jerseys.

    Jon in SLC: next time please warn me before you post two of defunct MN teams’ jerseys so I can properly brace myself. Thanks.

    I still like the Pirates’ vest because red is my second favorite color, but I can see why people don’t think it’s right for the Pirates. As it is an alternate, they won’t be wearing it very often, so that should bring some (cold) comfort.

    Natron, you have a North Stars jersey, right? Post it!

    That undershirt that Mo Williams is wearing looks like a flak jacket.

    Chicken skin rules.[/quote]

    But Minna just because they are alternates doesn’t mean they will only wear them some of the time…for example the Washington Wizards gold/black unis

  • Kenny | January 29, 2007 at 11:02 pm |

    Minna- no jerseys huh? Well how about a post of your fave for us all to see? (Well besides North Stars)

  • Minna H. | January 29, 2007 at 11:06 pm |

    [quote comment="48766"][quote comment="48743"]

    I still like the Pirates’ vest because red is my second favorite color, but I can see why people don’t think it’s right for the Pirates. As it is an alternate, they won’t be wearing it very often, so that should bring some (cold) comfort.[/quote]

    But Minna just because they are alternates doesn’t mean they will only wear them some of the time…for example the Washington Wizards gold/black unis[/quote]

    Hm, Kenny, ’tis true. I seem to remember that someone else posted that they would only wear them a few times. Anyone back me up on this?

    By the way, your girlfriend/wife (I’m assuming that’s her) is a lucky woman. Post more of your favorite jerseys!

  • Jeff I | January 30, 2007 at 1:54 am |

    I’ll get in on the fun…here are some pics of me in my favorite jerseys.

    Bruins

    Pats w/ SB 39 patch

    Old school Revs

    Woops

    Not pictured:
    -Blue France Zidane jersey from 06 World Cup
    -Away Sox jersey with 1986 World Series Championship patch
    -Navy Pats Ty Law
    -80′s era Pats John Stephens jersey #44, with stitched on nameplate

  • Pat | January 30, 2007 at 3:32 am |

    [quote comment="48636"]two i can guarantee that had authentic game day jerseys made by puma.
    eagles
    titans[/quote]
    The Browns had them, too, in 99 when they came back. I own one.

  • Paul Lukas | January 30, 2007 at 8:46 am |

    [quote comment="48821"][quote comment="48636"]two i can guarantee that had authentic game day jerseys made by puma.
    eagles
    titans[/quote]
    The Browns had them, too, in 99 when they came back. I own one.[/quote]

    Quite a few NFL teams were outfitted by Puma in the late ’90s. The league was split fairly evenly between Nike, Adidas, and Puma at that point.

  • GJP | January 30, 2007 at 9:03 am |

    I have a buttload of hockey sweaters. Many Red Wings sweaters since I live in Michigan. But another thing I am doing is collecting the jerseys of players named Guy who have made it to the NHL, since that is my name. There are I believe 7 players in NHL history named Guy who have played 100 or more games (Lafleur, Lapointe, Charron, Chouinard, Hebert, Carbonneau, and Trottier).

    Here is my collection so far:

    Lafleur – 1972-73 Authentic Montreal red (Mitchell and Ness)

    Carbonneau – Replica Montreal white with Coupe Stanley 1893-1993 patch

    Carbonneau – Replica Dallas Stars green/black “star” with 1999 Stanley Cup patch

    Lapointe – 1972 Team Canada white replica #25

    In addition, I have a non-lace up New York Rangers jersey which I am looking to turn into a Lafleur- once I find a place which can letter and number a jersey in the 1980s NY Rangers style, which is different than what they use today.

    I am really looking forward to working on this collection, because Charron was captain of the Washington Capitals back in the red/white/blue days and also played for the Kansas City Scouts. Chouinard played for the Atlanta Flames. Carbonneau also played for the St. Louis Blues in the mid 1990s when they had the sweaters with the diagonal striping. Lafleur played for the Nordiques, who have one of the best looking sweaters in history. I’m not looking forward to the purple Mighty Ducks Hebert jersey, but with the passage of time, even that jersey will seem charming in its on way. Trottier played for the Leafs back in the early 1970s, back when they had pretty nice looking jerseys, with the blue shoulders and the lace up collar…and no names on the back.

  • B. Minich | February 5, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    I have to say, I like the red vest for some reason. Not sure why. I can’t explain it at all.

    I just like the thing. I want to buy one for some strange reason that part of my doesn’t understand.

    I much prefer the white one, though.