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Just One Little Problem…

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You know how it is. You’re thinking how something or someone is really gorgeous — magnificent, even — but then you notice that the something or someone has a teeny little visual flaw. And soon you get fixated on that flaw. You’re looking at that beautiful painting, or sweater, or car, or girl, but you can’t see the beauty anymore. All you see is the one weak brushstroke, the dropped stitch, the little ding in the bumper, the slight asymmetry in her nostrils. Soon the flaw has taken on massive proportions, spreading in your field of vision like a metastasized tumor, blotting out any trace of the beauty, until you can no longer stand to be in the presence of this abomination, this affront to all that is right and good. You tear yourself away from the something or someone, vowing never to look in that direction again, lest your stomach turn and your eyeballs melt at the very sight.

And yet you can’t stop looking.

That, my friends, is what’s happened to me over on the Chris Creamer discussion board, where there’s recently been some discussion of design flaws in team logos. Granted, most of the logos in question aren’t exactly masterpieces, but still, it’s hard not to fixate on the flaws once you’ve been made aware of them. Case in point: On the San Jose Sharks logo, the tape on the stick blade is only on the front side — it doesn’t wrap around the blade. Like, what the fuck is that?! And now that I’ve pointed it out to you, good luck not obsessing over it every time you see the Sharks logo for the rest of your life.

Want more? Okay, you asked for it:

• On the Hornets logo, the seams on the basketball are badly asymmetrical.

• The type on the throwback Maple Leafs logo is off-center (and yes, that’s how it is on the jersey, too).

• On the Providence Bruins logo, the two vertical spokes aren’t parallel. (Okay, so this one is more than a tiny flaw — it’s more like a train wreck that you can see from a distance.)

And I’m sure there are more. Anyone care to ruin everyone else’s day by pointing them out?

A Few Orders of Business: First and foremost: Some douchebag loser who hides under a phony screen name and a phony e-mail address has been posting personal attacks in the Comments section. I’ve deleted them, but that’s no guarantee he won’t keep posting more of the same (at least until Johnny Ek gets back from vacation and blocks his access, which we occasionally have to do with malcontents, and which I really need to learn how to do without John’s assistance). My two standard rules still apply: (1) No personal invective in the Comments section, period. (2) If you see someone violating the first rule, please resist the temptation to respond (even if the attack was directed at you). Instead, just shoot me a note and I’ll address it. Just because some pathetic flasher opens his raincoat, that doesn’t mean you have to look — just keep walking.

Okay, enough of that. In happier news, I’m pleased to report that our friends at Distant Replays plan to contribute another $200 gift card for me to raffle off. Details soon.

Also: As I briefly mentioned last month, I’d like to convene a Uni Watch party here in Brooklyn on Saturday, February 3rd, which is the day before the Super Bowl. If you think you’ll be able to grace us with your presence, send a note to uniparty at earthlink dot net.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Logo Creep Alert from Andrew Lopez, who notes that JaMarcus Russell’s press conference yesterday was swoosh-sponsored. We’ve seen these lapel pins before on college hoops coaches, but c’mon, at a press conference? I look forward to all the Nike apologists defending this one. … Good note from Mike Forgy, who writes: “Went to my first Washington Capitals practice the other day and was shocked at the overwhelming colors employed. The goalies wore black, the defensemen wore white practice jerseys, and red, blue (teal?), and yellow were used to differentiate the lines. It was odd to see the Caps logo on so many different-colored unis.” You can see a gallery of his snapshots here. … A few days ago I mentioned the Granny Basketball League, but didn’t have any good pics. League director Barb McPherson has now helped fill that void. “The Granny Jamboree was held on Saturday. Fifty-three grannies turned out. Attached are some “action” images, but keep in mind, with no running and no jumping allowed, there really isn’t a lot of action!” … Ryan Hickox sent along some more pics of a uni-clad Dubya, this time from his rugby days, as seen here (top row, center) and here (note the telling caption). … Really good article here on the trademarking of team colors (with thanks to Uni Watch publicist Carrie Klein). … Eyewear note from Todd Krevanchi, who writes: “I guess Wisconsin’s Marcus Landry is trying to bring some of the Hanson Brothers’ old-time hockey spirit to the Big 10 this season.” … Here‘s another old pennant submitted by Craig Bates. Note that the batter appears to be hitting cross-handed (plus he’s, like, standing on a rock or something). … Good catch by Ray Gryder, who writes: “Check out the arrowhead logo on the helmet of the KC player from this photo from the 1963 AFL All-Star game, which was played in January of 1963. The Dallas Texans supposedly didn’t officially become the KC Chiefs until February. Perhaps the photo is not from 1963, but 1964? Plus the arrowhead logo looks stubbier than usual.” … Now that‘s a logo (from the 1960s Continental Football League, courtesy of Scott M.X. Turner). … Reprinted from yesterday’s Comments section: Good article here on the Blackhawks’ captain’s “C” designation (as pointed out by Michael Kramer). … Uni Watch intern Vince Grzegorek (who did a kickass job with yesterday’s post, no?) notes that Larry Hughes of the Cavs usually wears a headband but on at least three recent occasions has gone headband-free in the second half. “The Cavs were down by a ton at half in two of those contests, and Hughes had zero points in the first half of the other one,” says Vince. “Announcer Fred McLeod cleared things up on Tuesday by explaining that Hughes sometimes takes off the headband at half to change his luck or the team’s karma.” … Anyone who shares my love of striped socks will enjoy this short video (with thanks to Matt Parker). … And anyone who shares my love of stirrups will no doubt share my outrage that the word “Faux” is missing from [NSFW alert] this American Apparel ad.

 

332 comments to Just One Little Problem…

  • Howie | January 11, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    Thought it was Jamarcus Russell.

  • billy v | January 11, 2007 at 8:59 am |

    Eyewear note from Todd Krevanchi, who writes: “I guess Wisconsin’s Marcus Landry is trying to bring some of the Hanson Brothers’ old-time hockey spirit to the Big 10 this season”

    HMMMM….think he looks more like Raj from “Whats Happening”

  • Original Jim | January 11, 2007 at 9:02 am |

    As asymmetrical as the spokes are on the Providence Bruins logo, I don’t think it would look better if they were lined up. A “P” isn’t symmetrical like a “B” is. To get the one continuous vertical spoke, you would have either an extra wide gold stripe along the stem of the P, or two parallel lines in the same area, which would either make the logo very busy, or just more odd than it already is.

    Aesthetically, it’s as good as it’s going to get, even if the stripes don’t line up.

  • Ray | January 11, 2007 at 9:03 am |

    See this for an article all about the power of Paul’s favorite color…..

    I can’t believe that they’ve referenced Teletubbies in an article about the Baltimore Ravens.

  • Ken | January 11, 2007 at 9:05 am |

    This placement of the logo on this Angels jacket always killed me . . .

  • Natron | January 11, 2007 at 9:06 am |

    Faux what now?

  • NickNH | January 11, 2007 at 9:06 am |

    Ahhh, practice unis.

    I used to go to BU hockey practices 2-3 times a week, and they have all kinds of different colors as well. the first line was white, second red, third orange and the fourth was dark green. The defense and goalies wore navy blue while guys who were without a line and likely to be scratched from the game wore grey if they were healthy and light blue if they were injured. All these had solid colored socks that matched up with the jerseys.

    BU used the light blue to denote injury, no doubt because our traditional scarlet color wouldn’t make sense to show the injury. It’s kinda like the red teams in the NFL who use different colors for the QB no contact jersey.

  • Ken | January 11, 2007 at 9:07 am |

    Here is the link mentioned above . . .

  • Ken | January 11, 2007 at 9:08 am |

    aw screw it . . . http://i5.ebayimg.co...

  • Ray | January 11, 2007 at 9:08 am |

    Sorry here’s the link I mentioned (need more coffee)

  • Kieran K. | January 11, 2007 at 9:09 am |

    How about a little NSFW tag on that last link for those of us at work?

  • Ray | January 11, 2007 at 9:11 am |

    [quote comment=”40262″]See this for an article all about the power of Paul’s favorite color…..

    I can’t believe that they’ve referenced Teletubbies in an article about the Baltimore Ravens.[/quote]

    too early for this, let’s try 1 more time….

  • Ray | January 11, 2007 at 9:12 am |

  • Cork | January 11, 2007 at 9:12 am |

    yep Paul…OUTRAGED at the American Apparel ad.

  • Ray | January 11, 2007 at 9:13 am |

  • Ray | January 11, 2007 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment=”40262″]See this for an article all about the power of Paul’s favorite color…..

    I can’t believe that they’ve referenced Teletubbies in an article about the Baltimore Ravens.[/quote]

    http://www.baltimore...

    Let’s try it the old way

  • +JohnnyBoy- | January 11, 2007 at 9:17 am |

    Wait, there is words in that ad… I’ll have to look again.

  • Dwight | January 11, 2007 at 9:21 am |

    Did the Montreal Beavers have some psychic powers as there seems to be a resemblance to a certain swoosh in the tail, even though that company had not been invented yet?

  • PDXclark | January 11, 2007 at 9:22 am |

    [quote comment=”40261″]As asymmetrical as the spokes are on the Providence Bruins logo, I don’t think it would look better if they were lined up. A “P” isn’t symmetrical like a “B” is. To get the one continuous vertical spoke, you would have either an extra wide gold stripe along the stem of the P, or two parallel lines in the same area, which would either make the logo very busy, or just more odd than it already is.

    Aesthetically, it’s as good as it’s going to get, even if the stripes don’t line up.[/quote]

    Essentially the same issue with the Hornets logo- a symetrical seam would align closely with the coutour of the shoe and look strange.

  • Aram | January 11, 2007 at 9:25 am |

    The Washington Capitals practice jerseys are not uncommon. The University of Michigan hockey program used to have a similar system of colored practice sweaters. Every few years they hold an equipment sale where they sell off excess equipment, broken sticks, shirts, things like that, and at least once, practice jerseys. I know people who have teal Michigan jerseys with the M on the front and everything. They’re otherwise identical to game jerseys, but just in goofy colors.

  • Ken | January 11, 2007 at 9:25 am |

    I’ve never liked that the “A” extends so far down in this Angels logo: http://www.sportslog...

  • WVU Tom | January 11, 2007 at 9:27 am |

    [quote comment=”40284″][quote comment=”40261″]As asymmetrical as the spokes are on the Providence Bruins logo, I don’t think it would look better if they were lined up. A “P” isn’t symmetrical like a “B” is. To get the one continuous vertical spoke, you would have either an extra wide gold stripe along the stem of the P, or two parallel lines in the same area, which would either make the logo very busy, or just more odd than it already is.

    Aesthetically, it’s as good as it’s going to get, even if the stripes don’t line up.[/quote]

    Essentially the same issue with the Hornets logo- a symetrical seam would align closely with the coutour of the shoe and look strange.[/quote]

    You *may* have a point about the Providence logo, that would be kind of hard to work with, but I disagree with the comment about the Hornets logo, since you could always widen the stripe on the right side.

  • Seth H | January 11, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    the two vertical spokes aren’t parallel

    If you extended the two lines, they would be parallel. That is exactly the problem; they don’t line up.

  • Paul Lukas | January 11, 2007 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”40284″]Essentially the same issue with the Hornets logo- a symetrical seam would align closely with the coutour of the shoe and look strange.[/quote]

    Then why not make the other curved seam farther away from the center seam? Or why not rotate the ball so there’s no conflict with the shoe? When you have to depict something inaccurately in order to preserve your design, it means your design isn’t working.

  • Beefalo | January 11, 2007 at 9:30 am |

    Paul,

    All may not be lost with the Sharks logo–maybe the designer thought the hockey stick was using this product instead of the traditional tape…

    (cue sarcasm alert)

  • Brian T | January 11, 2007 at 9:36 am |

    In Response to the American Apparel Ad: There are something’s worth sacrificing in life.. Perhaps this is one of them.

  • WVU Tom | January 11, 2007 at 9:43 am |

    As long as we’re talking symmetry, I may as well comment on my favorite logo…

    If you look at this logo it is easy to see that technically the center line runs though the middle of the ‘W’, however there is a lot more “activity” on the right side, since the ‘V’ is off-center as it is aligned to the ‘W’.

    Here’s what has always bugged me: Hats featuring the Flying WV always center the logo so that the front seam runs though the center of the ‘W’, which may be techically correct, but it just looks off-center to me. I’ve always thought it would *look better* to shift the logo slightly to the left. Any of my fellow WVU friends who I mention this to usually think I’m crazy for even noticing in the first place.

  • Kevin | January 11, 2007 at 9:44 am |

    Great now I’m going to be noticing problems with team logos after reading the article today. Seriously I watch game now and make mental notes of what should show up on Uni Watch and everytime I do it shows up on here. Its nice to know that I’m not the only one obsessing over these type things. Hi my name is Kevin and I’m a uniform obsessive.

    That Montreal Beavers local rules.

  • Pat | January 11, 2007 at 9:45 am |

    I’ve noticed a few design flaws in logos recently. Timberwolves: Notice how much thicker the stroke is around the trees on the left side.
    Nets: It’s a rather miniscule error but check out the shading along the embossed parts of the “S” and the other letters. The top right side of the S is shaded which is not happening on any other letters.
    Throwback Rockets: No seam going across the middle of the ball to make the 8 panels. It is stuck with a wierd, never existing 6 panel ball.

    Celtics: I noticed this one when I was real little visiting the Garden with my dad. Lucky’s left hand (on our right) does not have a stroke line on the wrist leading up to the sleeve. (By the way a bigger Celtics logo mistake was the fact that this one was even made.)

    That’s all I’ve got. I’m a big NBA guy, though, so I don’t know as much about MLB, NFL, and especially NHL logos.

  • wooster, oh | January 11, 2007 at 9:46 am |

    Re: Ravens,
    Not sure if this has been covered yet, but this is in regards to the color purple and the Baltimore Ravens. I grew up in Maryland and when they went to the Super Bowl a few years ago, the city replaced all of the old street light bulbs in the Inner Harbor and Fells Point and Stadium neighborhoods with purple light bulbs. It was obscene. Luckily, I was in college at the time and didn’t have to experience it first-hand.

  • Chris | January 11, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    It looks like someone used Microsoft Paint to design the Hornets logo.

  • WVU Tom | January 11, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”40299″]Re: Ravens,
    Not sure if this has been covered yet, but this is in regards to the color purple and the Baltimore Ravens. I grew up in Maryland and when they went to the Super Bowl a few years ago, the city replaced all of the old street light bulbs in the Inner Harbor and Fells Point and Stadium neighborhoods with purple light bulbs. It was obscene. Luckily, I was in college at the time and didn’t have to experience it first-hand.[/quote]

    Don’t know if you’re still around, but it starting to happen again.

    (I think it’s cool, to bad that city hasn’t had a reason to “go orange” lately).

  • Christopher | January 11, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    The LA Clippers logo:

    http://images.footba...

    The lines on the basketball seem all goofed up. Especially the middle line. Imagine the words not being there… there would be 2 massive pannels on the right, and a bunch of tiny pannels on the left.

  • Christopher | January 11, 2007 at 9:51 am |

    NOTE TO EVERYONE:

    Don’t post links to images on Chris Creamer’s site… they don’t work unless you’re on the site… they’re protected by some goofy script.

    Just an FYI. I love his site (even though he’s a bit nutty on the security).

  • Kyle Joecken | January 11, 2007 at 9:52 am |

    Since we’re focused on minor blemishes today, I’ll let out the math guy in me for a moment here.

    The two vertical strokes in the Providence logo ARE parallel — they’re both vertical, which means they will never intersect, hence parallel. They are not collinear (lying on the same line).

    And I agree with the rest of the comments on it — it seems that the ‘P’ would appear off-center if you just replaced the Bruins B with the Providence P. Not that what they’ve done is the best solution….

  • LT | January 11, 2007 at 9:53 am |

    Wow, I’ve been a hockey nut my whole life and never made that observation of the Sharks’ tape though I’ve looked at the logo a thousand times. Incredible.

    In regards to the Caps’ multi-colored practice jerseys, that is a common practice. American colleges do it. Major junior teams in Canada do it. Even some high schools do it so long as they have a bit of a budget.

    Also, with the vertical striped sock story the other day, I just googled quickly and couldn’t find a photo but the 1994-95 Providence College hockey team wore some of the most unusual things you’ve ever seen, pinstriped hockey uniforms. It was only the white home uniforms but the socks were also pinstriped which was, uh, different. It only lasted one year.

    Long-time reader, first time commentator. Slow day at work I guess. Love the site.

  • Yoke | January 11, 2007 at 9:54 am |

    Practice jerseys are nothing new. We had them when I played youth hockey. It makes practicing a lot easier and doing competition drills go more smoothly.

    I’m sure the difference is that when the pros switch lines, they don’t have to switch jerseys with the guy that you are changing with, like they do with the kids.

  • CRAZY LARRY | January 11, 2007 at 9:56 am |

    Check out the new Manitoba Moose sweaters (NOT jerseys, NEVER jerseys) The were honouring the Canadian National Team. I LOVE THEM. I would hope they wear them again.

  • Pittsburgh Gunny | January 11, 2007 at 9:56 am |

    Here is my contribution to the new obsession of the day. Looking at this Senators logo, notice how the lower laurel thingee has one more leaf thingee than the one on the top.

  • Erc | January 11, 2007 at 9:56 am |

    http://www.bostonspo...

    The Chiefs old log reminded me of some wishful thinking right before the KC/Indy game.

  • CRAZY LARRY | January 11, 2007 at 9:57 am |
  • Pat | January 11, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”40298″]I’ve noticed a few design flaws in logos recently. Timberwolves: Notice how much thicker the stroke is around the trees on the left side.
    Nets: It’s a rather miniscule error but check out the shading along the embossed parts of the “S” and the other letters. The top right side of the S is shaded which is not happening on any other letters.
    Throwback Rockets: No seam going across the middle of the ball to make the 8 panels. It is stuck with a wierd, never existing 6 panel ball.

    Celtics: I noticed this one when I was real little visiting the Garden with my dad. Lucky’s left hand (on our right) does not have a stroke line on the wrist leading up to the sleeve. (By the way a bigger Celtics logo mistake was the fact that this one was even made.)

    That’s all I’ve got. I’m a big NBA guy, though, so I don’t know as much about MLB, NFL, and especially NHL logos.[/quote]

    By the by, I meant to say RIGHT side of the trees for the Timberwolves.

  • Miguel | January 11, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”40303″]NOTE TO EVERYONE:

    Don’t post links to images on Chris Creamer’s site… they don’t work unless you’re on the site… they’re protected by some goofy script.

    Just an FYI. I love his site (even though he’s a bit nutty on the security).[/quote]

    Actually, just click the “Go” button next to the address bar and you’ll see the picture. But he’s right, it’s probably better to link to the page that the picture is on, rather than the pic itself.

  • Joe Hilseberg | January 11, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”40299″]Re: Ravens,
    Not sure if this has been covered yet, but this is in regards to the color purple and the Baltimore Ravens. I grew up in Maryland and when they went to the Super Bowl a few years ago, the city replaced all of the old street light bulbs in the Inner Harbor and Fells Point and Stadium neighborhoods with purple light bulbs. It was obscene. Luckily, I was in college at the time and didn’t have to experience it first-hand.[/quote]

    I love the purple lights! I do not share the hatred of purple with Paul. I will be purple clad on Saturday in the upper deck as I watch the Ravens go hunting!

    Did anyone watch the MD vs. Miami game last night? The Canes names on the back of their jerseys were inconsistent. Some straight, some arched….don’t know why?

    And finally…were there socks in the American Apparel ad? I didn’t notice!

  • Richard | January 11, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”40302″]The LA Clippers logo:

    http://images.footba...

    The lines on the basketball seem all goofed up. Especially the middle line. Imagine the words not being there… there would be 2 massive pannels on the right, and a bunch of tiny pannels on the left.[/quote]

    Yeah, the Clippers logo has too many stripes at the bottom. The stripe in the middle goes up to the top line showing ball movement. The second line, which would symettrically line up with the curve on the right, goes through the wording to the second line showing movement. Then there’s a third curve on the bottom, but that does not correspond to a line on the top, because the third line down showing ball motion does not continue into the ball.

  • David | January 11, 2007 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”40315″][quote comment=”40303″]NOTE TO EVERYONE:

    Don’t post links to images on Chris Creamer’s site… they don’t work unless you’re on the site… they’re protected by some goofy script.

    Just an FYI. I love his site (even though he’s a bit nutty on the security).[/quote]

    Actually, just click the “Go” button next to the address bar and you’ll see the picture. But he’s right, it’s probably better to link to the page that the picture is on, rather than the pic itself.[/quote]

    Umm… clicking ‘Go’ doesn’t work for me. I have to admit that it is frustrating to be reading everyone’s thoughts on these logos and not being able to see the pics they are talking about.

  • Bill | January 11, 2007 at 10:02 am |

    This isn’t quite the same thing the Paul describes, but I’ve always thought the Steelers helmet looked odd with the logo on just one side.

  • Pat | January 11, 2007 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”40302″]The LA Clippers logo:

    http://images.footba...

    The lines on the basketball seem all goofed up. Especially the middle line. Imagine the words not being there… there would be 2 massive pannels on the right, and a bunch of tiny pannels on the left.[/quote]

    I never noticed this problem before. Not only is the middle line kind of “goofed up” as you put it, but there is an extra line coming from the bottom of the ball, stemming from under the space between the second ‘P’ and the ‘E’. The top panels seem to be too small as well. I don’t know how this ever got by me but this may be the worst sports logo I have ever seen, from a detail standpoint. A bigger version, with all the design issues is here.

  • V8Cougar | January 11, 2007 at 10:12 am |

    The thick stroke on the T’Wolves logo is shadow.

    It always surprised me at just how poorly drawn those old logos are (e.g. the KU logo from yesterday). I think a lot of them were drawn by a friend of the team and adopted as a crappy logo. That’s not saying I don’t like them; I think they have tons of character and charm compared to modern logos which all seem to be styled the same.

  • V8Cougar | January 11, 2007 at 10:15 am |

    [quote comment=”40318″][quote comment=”40315″][quote comment=”40303″]NOTE TO EVERYONE:

    Don’t post links to images on Chris Creamer’s site… they don’t work unless you’re on the site… they’re protected by some goofy script.

    Just an FYI. I love his site (even though he’s a bit nutty on the security).[/quote]

    Actually, just click the “Go” button next to the address bar and you’ll see the picture. But he’s right, it’s probably better to link to the page that the picture is on, rather than the pic itself.[/quote]

    Umm… clicking ‘Go’ doesn’t work for me. I have to admit that it is frustrating to be reading everyone’s thoughts on these logos and not being able to see the pics they are talking about.[/quote]

    Try copy and pasting it in the address bar

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 10:18 am |

    Here is another logo that has a problem, although ever so small. It is not as big a problem as witht the extra stroke on the bottom of the Clippers (TM) logo, so I guess it could be it’s opposite. The Warriors logo does not extend the lines of the basketball throught the man holding the lightning bolt. There should be just one stroke to his right. Also there is the same thing with this alternate logo except it is for the middle line of the ball and there should be an extra stroke to the left of the “W” just above the lightning bolt.

    Small but still noticeable.

  • Marc | January 11, 2007 at 10:18 am |

    The providence logo is an optical illusion.

    If you place a straight edge (a piece of paper) across the lines you will see that the lines are aligned.

  • Frank from B-more | January 11, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    Although I am not always a fan of Purple, i love that B-more has gotten into the Ravens playoffs with the purple lights. The bromo seltzer tower. City Hall and all the Hotels have purple displayed. GO RAVENS.

  • Morgan Doninger | January 11, 2007 at 10:20 am |

    The Florida Panthers logo has driven me crazy for years for a very minor thing. The panther on the logo has thumbs. Full out prehensile thumbs. It looks ridiculous. I also heard that the reason the cat has five digits per paw was that the cat was originally supposed to be snapping a hockey stick in half, but the NHL nixed this as being too much like the Sharks logo! I can’t confirm that story, but I do know that the Panther logo painted at center ice of their barn is indeed snapping a stick in half, hence the need of thumbs to hold the stick.

    Wow. I just went onto the Panthers website to look up the ever changing name of their home arena to edit the above paragraph, and low and behold the panther snapping the stick is featured right across the top. Check it out at:

    http://www.floridapa...

  • John | January 11, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”40310″]Check out the new Manitoba Moose sweaters (NOT jerseys, NEVER jerseys) The were honouring the Canadian National Team. I LOVE THEM. I would hope they wear them again. [/quote]

    I’m guessing the left shoulder patch is a charity logo and that these will be raffled off later. For players who wear an ‘A’ or ‘C’, where does that patch go? Is it just ditched?

  • John | January 11, 2007 at 10:22 am |

    wow, too much linkage. not awake yet. whoopsy.

  • Pat | January 11, 2007 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”40328″]The providence logo is an optical illusion.

    If you place a straight edge (a piece of paper) across the lines you will see that the lines are aligned.[/quote]

    Not true. Stop spreading lies.

  • Teebz | January 11, 2007 at 10:24 am |

    The Moose Team Canada jerseys will not be worn in place of the black alternate jerseys they normally wear. There was some discussion about them keeping the Canadian-influenced jerseys, but they have since been put up for sale on Ebay.

    Here are the Team Canada Moose jerseys.

    Here are the Moose black alternate jerseys.

    They are jerseys, unless you wear polyester sweaters. If they were still made out of wool, they would still be called sweaters. They haven’t been made out of wool for a long time.

    However, both are acceptable ways of describing a hockey jersey.

  • Teebz | January 11, 2007 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”40331″] I just went onto the Panthers website to look up the ever changing name of their home arena to edit the above paragraph, and low and behold the panther snapping the stick is featured right across the top.
    [/quote]

    The stick-snapping Panther is the alternate logo. It appears only on the Panthers’ red alternate jersey.

  • David | January 11, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”40328″]The providence logo is an optical illusion.

    If you place a straight edge (a piece of paper) across the lines you will see that the lines are aligned.[/quote]

    Are you crazy? It isn’t even close.

  • baude | January 11, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”40320″]This isn’t quite the same thing the Paul describes, but I’ve always thought the Steelers helmet looked odd with the logo on just one side.[/quote]

    get ready for steeler fan backlash…

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    Found another logo. Look closely at the seams of the baseball in the Twins (TM) logo. Notice anything strange? Now compare it to the Red Sox (TM) logo, what do you think?

  • Tim | January 11, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    RE: The GWB rugby photo. This falls under the “one flaw and you’re ruined” idea, but that player in the front right really needs to cross his legs.

  • David | January 11, 2007 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment=”40324″][quote comment=”40318″][quote comment=”40315″][quote comment=”40303″]NOTE TO EVERYONE:

    Don’t post links to images on Chris Creamer’s site… they don’t work unless you’re on the site… they’re protected by some goofy script.

    Just an FYI. I love his site (even though he’s a bit nutty on the security).[/quote]

    Actually, just click the “Go” button next to the address bar and you’ll see the picture. But he’s right, it’s probably better to link to the page that the picture is on, rather than the pic itself.[/quote]

    Umm… clicking ‘Go’ doesn’t work for me. I have to admit that it is frustrating to be reading everyone’s thoughts on these logos and not being able to see the pics they are talking about.[/quote]

    Try copy and pasting it in the address bar[/quote]

    Still doesn’t work.

  • AMS | January 11, 2007 at 10:32 am |

    The Steelers helmets look odd to some, perhaps, but the one-sided logo was purposeful, and, to many, is a nice, and distinctive, touch.

  • Metsfan AZ | January 11, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”40341″]Found another logo. Look closely at the seams of the baseball in the Twins (TM) logo. Notice anything strange? Now compare it to the Red Sox (TM) logo, what do you think?[/quote]
    That’s like being able to see the back of the baseball??? weird…

  • Eric | January 11, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    I think that the type on the Maple Leafs throwback logo is off-center on purpose. I think it is replicating the original logo which was probably put together in some archaic manner that left it slightly off-center. If that is the case, here is the question: Do you center it and correct an obvious error, or do you leave it as it was? I say, leave it as it was. I think little quirks are actually charming In logos. And in women. (I only mention “women” because it was part of Paul’s original thesis)

  • Jared | January 11, 2007 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”40341″]Found another logo. Look closely at the seams of the baseball in the Twins (TM) logo. Notice anything strange? Now compare it to the Red Sox (TM) logo, what do you think?[/quote]
    Have you never looked at at a baseball. The Twins Logo just uses the baseball image from a different angle.

  • Tim | January 11, 2007 at 10:38 am |

    The new Buffalo Sabres logo has that type of flaw that bugs me. The horn on the far side of the head looks like it is part of the face because of the color. If you check the old logo, they recognized that and made it look different from the face/head.

  • Thorold Blair | January 11, 2007 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”40341″]Found another logo. Look closely at the seams of the baseball in the Twins (TM) logo. Notice anything strange? Now compare it to the Red Sox (TM) logo, what do you think?[/quote]

    Agreed, looks like there is some extra stitches on the twins logo

  • wooster, oh | January 11, 2007 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”40330″]Although I am not always a fan of Purple, i love that B-more has gotten into the Ravens playoffs with the purple lights. The bromo seltzer tower. City Hall and all the Hotels have purple displayed. GO RAVENS.[/quote]

    Ok, I do applaud the bromo seltzer being purple. That’s cool, but the street lights are a bit much. I think my disgust for it has to do more with the ridiculous number of Redskins fans that jump ship to the Ravens whenever they do well. And no, I’m not a Redskins fan. I’m a Saints fan and have been waiting for this upcoming weekend for a LOOOOOOOOONG time.

  • Tim | January 11, 2007 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”40296″]Here’s what has always bugged me: Hats featuring the Flying WV always center the logo so that the front seam runs though the center of the ‘W’, which may be techically correct, but it just looks off-center to me. I’ve always thought it would *look better* to shift the logo slightly to the left. Any of my fellow WVU friends who I mention this to usually think I’m crazy for even noticing in the first place.[/quote]
    As a WVU grad myself, the only thing that bugs me about it is the unusually large number of people that put the WV window stickers on the back of the car and put them backward, so from the outside the V is on the left.

  • Pittsburgh Gunny | January 11, 2007 at 10:49 am |

    I have also always liked how this version of the dear Padre seems to be stepping on his own toes/.

  • Ben | January 11, 2007 at 10:50 am |

    This may be nitpicking, but how do we feel about the cavs logo?

    Can the handle of the sword be on the front of the name and be peircing the name at the same time?

  • Jason | January 11, 2007 at 10:50 am |

    Not sports related, but I never noticed (until it was pointed out to me) that on the FedEx logo, the ‘E’ and ‘x’ combine to show an arrow. I never look at that logo the same anymore.

  • J.D. | January 11, 2007 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”40350″]The new Buffalo Sabres logo has that type of flaw that bugs me. The horn on the far side of the head looks like it is part of the face because of the color. If you check the old logo, they recognized that and made it look different from the face/head.[/quote]
    I agree. The horn on the right looks like the Buffaslug has a Tintin-style cowlick.

  • Greg | January 11, 2007 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”40331″]The Florida Panthers logo has driven me crazy for years for a very minor thing. The panther on the logo has thumbs. Full out prehensile thumbs. It looks ridiculous. I also heard that the reason the cat has five digits per paw was that the cat was originally supposed to be snapping a hockey stick in half, but the NHL nixed this as being too much like the Sharks logo! I can’t confirm that story, but I do know that the Panther logo painted at center ice of their barn is indeed snapping a stick in half, hence the need of thumbs to hold the stick.

    Wow. I just went onto the Panthers website to look up the ever changing name of their home arena to edit the above paragraph, and low and behold the panther snapping the stick is featured right across the top. Check it out at:

    http://www.floridapa...

    And Mickey Mouse wears gloves and yellow shoes!!! What the hell mouse wears clothes?!? What was Walt thinking?

    These are icons, representations of real world objects, some more closely than others…by design. Would you expect fine art to all look like photography? Just a thought…

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”40348″][quote comment=”40341″]Found another logo. Look closely at the seams of the baseball in the Twins (TM) logo. Notice anything strange? Now compare it to the Red Sox (TM) logo, what do you think?[/quote]
    Have you never looked at at a baseball. The Twins Logo just uses the baseball image from a different angle.[/quote]

    Jared it is not using the baseball from a different angle. I understand how a baseball can look very different from different angles. The Rangers logo looks normal is on a different angle, but the Twins logo is not. It completely changes direction of the stitching in a direction that a baseball does not follow.

  • nybatt | January 11, 2007 at 10:52 am |

    don’t know if anyone else caught it… but, last night on NBC nightly news they were doing a piece on US soldiers working with Iraqi soldiers.. at one point there was about a 5-second shot of an Iraqi soldier wearing a “skully” (translated: a spandex, tight-fitting garment worn on the head).. anyhow, it was black with a HUGE nike swoosh in the front… both comical and ridiculous at the same time.

  • sh | January 11, 2007 at 10:53 am |

    This is old news, so it’s probably been discussed here in other conversations, I’m guessing. Close scrutiny of the Kentucky Wildcats’ “screaming cat” logo once found the cat’s tongue to resemble part of the male anatomy. I think the logo’s still in use, but with a tongue that is more difficult to interpret in that way . . .

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 11:01 am |

    Ok, I know most of us prefer this Brewers (TM) logo to this one, but look at the ball in the glove. Interesting?

  • Kenny | January 11, 2007 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”40335″]The Moose Team Canada jerseys will not be worn in place of the black alternate jerseys they normally wear. There was some discussion about them keeping the Canadian-influenced jerseys, but they have since been put up for sale on Ebay.

    Here are the Team Canada Moose jerseys.

    Here are the Moose black alternate jerseys.

    They are jerseys, unless you wear polyester sweaters. If they were still made out of wool, they would still be called sweaters. They haven’t been made out of wool for a long time.

    However, both are acceptable ways of describing a hockey jersey.[/quote]

    Oh man that Moose on the Alternate is mean looking…wish the jersey was green though

    Teebz thank you for clarifying that…I’ve gone from calling them jerseys to sweaters and keep switching back and forth not knowing what to call it…if both are acceptable, I can’t be wrong, right?

  • todd krevanchi | January 11, 2007 at 11:04 am |

    so let me get this straight…

    this weekend in the playoffs,
    the indianapolis colts RETURN to baltimore to play the ravens, who are actually the cleveland browns.

    so this weekends matchup is actually a good old fashioned slobber knocker between two of the leagues most storied franchises.

    the cleveland browns vs. the baltimore colts

    baltimore’s high powered offense will be playing “on the road” in baltimore, md against a tough cleveland defense. cleveland should have a significant home field advantage over baltimore… you know, because cleveland is playing at home in baltimore, md and all…

  • baude | January 11, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”40358″]This may be nitpicking, but how do we feel about the cavs logo?

    Can the handle of the sword be on the front of the name and be peircing the name at the same time?[/quote]

    Perhaps the sword is a scimitar or some other curved sword. In this case the error in the logo is that the hilt & hand guard are rotated 90 degrees, not the blade being bent.

    (I know this is ridiculous, but that seems to be the theme today)

  • Pat | January 11, 2007 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”40362″][quote comment=”40348″][quote comment=”40341″]Found another logo. Look closely at the seams of the baseball in the Twins (TM) logo. Notice anything strange? Now compare it to the Red Sox (TM) logo, what do you think?[/quote]
    Have you never looked at at a baseball. The Twins Logo just uses the baseball image from a different angle.[/quote]

    Jared it is not using the baseball from a different angle. I understand how a baseball can look very different from different angles. The Rangers logo looks normal is on a different angle, but the Twins logo is not. It completely changes direction of the stitching in a direction that a baseball does not follow.[/quote]

    Agreed, something is up with that stiching. It looks like there is one really thick panel and one really thin panel making up the baseball. Good catch.

  • Shane | January 11, 2007 at 11:06 am |

    It seems those colors are pretty standard across the NHL, as far as practice jerseys go. The Bruins auctioned a bunch of practice equipment off a month ago, and the majority of the jerseys were teal and yellow.

  • Shane | January 11, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”40370″
    Perhaps the sword is a scimitar or some other curved sword.[/quote]

    If some farscial aquatic bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away!

  • Kel | January 11, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    [quote comment=”40340″][quote comment=”40320″]This isn’t quite the same thing the Paul describes, but I’ve always thought the Steelers helmet looked odd with the logo on just one side.[/quote]

    get ready for steeler fan backlash…[/quote]

    No backlash here, honest. :) However, my bestest friend, TD, who got me hooked on this site, showed me this a few weeks ago after we were having a discussion about exactly this.

    Hope it helps. :)

  • Dr | January 11, 2007 at 11:09 am |

    The Ravens logo is a pet peeve of mine. What is the “B” supposed to be. It’s not a tattoo, because you can’t tattoo feathers. And it’s not superimposed on top of the bird, because it’s tucked under some feathers near the mouth.

    Also, there is no way these teeth are drawn to scale. Are they???

  • Andy (#11) | January 11, 2007 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”40337″][quote comment=”40331″] I just went onto the Panthers website to look up the ever changing name of their home arena to edit the above paragraph, and low and behold the panther snapping the stick is featured right across the top.
    [/quote]

    The stick-snapping Panther is the alternate logo. It appears only on the Panthers’ red alternate jersey.[/quote]

    The stick in this logo has the tape on the blade shown correctly (unlike the Sharks logo), but it seems to me that the red stripes and the tape on the handle of the stick should also wrap around.

  • Richard | January 11, 2007 at 11:14 am |

    [quote comment=”40370″][quote comment=”40358″]This may be nitpicking, but how do we feel about the cavs logo?

    Can the handle of the sword be on the front of the name and be peircing the name at the same time?[/quote]

    Perhaps the sword is a scimitar or some other curved sword. In this case the error in the logo is that the hilt & hand guard are rotated 90 degrees, not the blade being bent.

    (I know this is ridiculous, but that seems to be the theme today)[/quote]

    or the logo could be at a small angle to the sword, causing the sword bottom to be able to touch in front while the other end pierced through the other end.

  • wooster, oh | January 11, 2007 at 11:16 am |

    [quote comment=”40359″]Not sports related, but I never noticed (until it was pointed out to me) that on the FedEx logo, the ‘E’ and ‘x’ combine to show an arrow. I never look at that logo the same anymore.[/quote]

    Ask any kid under the age of 5 (or anyone who can’t read, for that matter) and the only thing they’ll notice in the arrow. Isn’t is crazy how are perception changes. Also, once you do see it, you’ll notice it everytime you see a FedEx logo again. And yes it won awards because apparently the arrow was designed like that on purpose.

  • Lou | January 11, 2007 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”40278″]yep Paul…OUTRAGED at the American Apparel ad.[/quote]

    That link could have used a warning: Do Not View at Work!

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 11:18 am |

    This isn’t a problem with the logo but just thought the new Padres (TM) logo looked a lot like this logo and jersey design, which isn’t a bad thing. Is it close?

  • tim b | January 11, 2007 at 11:18 am |

    it doesn’t bother me much at all, but should the ravens be using the “it’s time to hunt” theme to the playoffs, considering their proximity to the beltway sniper a few years back?

  • wooster, oh | January 11, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    I am grammatically challenged today. Let’s try that again: Ask any kid under the age of 5 (or anyone who can’t read, for that matter) and the only thing they’ll notice is the arrow. Isn’t is crazy how our perception changes. Also, once you do see it, you’ll notice it everytime you see a FedEx logo again. And yes it won awards because apparently the arrow was designed like that on purpose.

  • Joe Hilseberg | January 11, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”40328″]The providence logo is an optical illusion.

    If you place a straight edge (a piece of paper) across the lines you will see that the lines are aligned.[/quote]

    This was driving me crazy, so I drew the Providence logo to see what was really going on.

    I drew one that shows exact symmetry and clean 45 degree cross’ of the spokes. Come to find that there are many flaws in the original. See the comparison….The “P” has been budged to the right some and the spokes are not centered or symmetrical!

  • smcs | January 11, 2007 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”40346″] If that is the case, here is the question: Do you center it and correct an obvious error, or do you leave it as it was?[/quote]

    Honestly, if Paul had not told you about this, would you have noticed? Is it really “an obvious error”? I am a huge Leafs fan, and have probably seen 90% of the games played where they wear the alternates and I have never noticed it.

    [quote comment=”40350″]The new Buffalo Sabres logo has that type of flaw that bugs me. The horn on the far side of the head looks like it is part of the face because of the color. If you check the old logo, they recognized that and made it look different from the face/head.[/quote]

    The Buffalo Sabres new logo has a type of flaw that bugs me, my eyes hurt whenever I look at it.

    Two other things. You can buy some of the NHL practice jerseys. Just only in the team’s primary and secondary colours.

    David Beckham signed with the Los Angeles Galaxy today. I have never seen that type of font used on the back of a jersey. I believe that is with Real Madrid

  • Alec | January 11, 2007 at 11:24 am |

    Anyone notice the Leon Washington-Like finger signs that our prez is flaunting to the camera in the Bush Rugby picture?
    Could it mean “I did 2, count ’em 2, lines of coke last night!”?

  • Teebz | January 11, 2007 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”40332″][quote comment=”40310″]Check out the new Manitoba Moose sweaters (NOT jerseys, NEVER jerseys) The were honouring the Canadian National Team. I LOVE THEM. I would hope they wear them again. [/quote]

    I’m guessing the left shoulder patch is a charity logo and that these will be raffled off later. For players who wear an ‘A’ or ‘C’, where does that patch go? Is it just ditched?[/quote]

    The patch is removed for the captain and alternate captains. The patch is for the Manitoba Moose Yearling Foundation. Since there are only a maximum of three players not wearing a team-issued patch for a team charity, it’s better than removing the Toyota patch since they paid a premium to be featured on the jersey. You have to keep the corporate world happy, right?

    By the way, here are the three patches featured on each Moose jersey. Note the “game worn” patch. All game-worn jerseys in the NHL and AHL feature a patch or marking similar to this one. It’s how to tell an authentic game worn jersey from a store-bought pro jersey. They are usually hidden inside the rear hem.

  • Christopher | January 11, 2007 at 11:28 am |

    Ironic thing on the Sharks logo… the tape on the *top* of the stick is done correctly!

  • Richard | January 11, 2007 at 11:30 am |

    [quote comment=”40389″][quote comment=”40346″] If that is the case, here is the question: Do you center it and correct an obvious error, or do you leave it as it was?[/quote]

    Honestly, if Paul had not told you about this, would you have noticed? Is it really “an obvious error”? I am a huge Leafs fan, and have probably seen 90% of the games played where they wear the alternates and I have never noticed it.

    [quote comment=”40350″]The new Buffalo Sabres logo has that type of flaw that bugs me. The horn on the far side of the head looks like it is part of the face because of the color. If you check the old logo, they recognized that and made it look different from the face/head.[/quote]

    The Buffalo Sabres new logo has a type of flaw that bugs me, my eyes hurt whenever I look at it.

    Two other things. You can buy some of the NHL practice jerseys. Just only in the team’s primary and secondary colours.

    David Beckham signed with the Los Angeles Galaxy today. I have never seen that type of font used on the back of a jersey. I believe that is with Real Madrid[/quote]

    Yup, those are the backs of the Real kits. You can see some of the lettering on this photo from the store.

  • Eric | January 11, 2007 at 11:31 am |

    Honestly, if Paul had not told you about this, would you have noticed? Is it really “an obvious error”? I am a huge Leafs fan, and have probably seen 90% of the games played where they wear the alternates and I have never noticed it.

    I actually did notice it before Paul brought it up and thought it was kinda quirky.

  • Jay Palmer | January 11, 2007 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”40359″]Not sports related, but I never noticed (until it was pointed out to me) that on the FedEx logo, the ‘E’ and ‘x’ combine to show an arrow. I never look at that logo the same anymore.[/quote]

    Or how about the FedEx (which originally stood for Federal Express) now has an express service and their trucks say “FedEx Express” which corelates to “Federal Express Express”.

    no uni-related but just my $0.02

  • jesse | January 11, 2007 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”40383″][quote comment=”40278″]yep Paul…OUTRAGED at the American Apparel ad.[/quote]

    That link could have used a warning: Do Not View at Work![/quote]

    it had one, NSFW. Intrestingly my security code was 1111

  • Joe Hilseberg | January 11, 2007 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”40376″]The Ravens logo is a pet peeve of mine. What is the “B” supposed to be. It’s not a tattoo, because you can’t tattoo feathers. And it’s not superimposed on top of the bird, because it’s tucked under some feathers near the mouth.[/quote]

    When the Browns came here David Modell made it clear that he wanted a “B” to be on the teams helmet as a tribute to the city. (A great move considering the baseball team wants nothing to do with the city’s name) The original logo had this. However when they had to make the change to the bird head he still wanted the “B” there. They had a Raven head in circulation already, but redesigned it to include the “B”.

    The tucking of the feathers and such are just design elements used to make it look as if the “B” should be there. I really like it.

  • sh | January 11, 2007 at 11:35 am |

    I always thought the waves on the Padres’ logo borrowed from the Boston/Portland Breakers of the old USFL.

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 11:36 am |
  • Andrew | January 11, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”40376″]

    Also, there is no way these teeth are drawn to scale. Are they???[/quote]

    The Preds’ logo is a representation of a saber-toothed tiger, from which the team gets its name.

  • Eriq Jaffe | January 11, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    I don’t know if it really qualifies as a flaw, but the asymmetry of the Chicago Bears’ ‘C’ logo has always bothered me.

  • Teebz | January 11, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment=”40368″]
    Oh man that Moose on the Alternate is mean looking…wish the jersey was green though[/quote]

    Apparently, I have been corrected. A friend of mine said that the black jersey is the road jersey, and this green jersey is the alternate. I much prefer the green jersey, and I think they should use it as the road jersey.

    [quote comment=”40368″]Teebz thank you for clarifying that…I’ve gone from calling them jerseys to sweaters and keep switching back and forth not knowing what to call it…if both are acceptable, I can’t be wrong, right?[/quote]

    No, you’re not wrong. However, “sweater” is the old term for hockey jerseys. Personally, it doesn’t make a difference to me.

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 11:40 am |

    The Washington Capitals (TM) logo doesn’t have the tape wrap around the stick like the Sharks logo. I guess though it could be the shadow?

  • Richard | January 11, 2007 at 11:43 am |

    i just realized that no only do the socks in MLS have the three Adidas stripes on the top, but they also have the Adidas logo on them. And yes, Clint was wearing yellow cleats in the photo.

  • PDXclark | January 11, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”40366″]Ok, I know most of us prefer this Brewers (TM) logo to this one, but look at the ball in the glove. Interesting?[/quote]

    I have a baseball at my desk. Here are my takes on ball stiching-
    Twins: I see where they are coming from, but in order for that stiching pattern to be visible, the baseball would have to have been run over by a truck.
    Brewers MB glove:
    There is a viewing angle that results in a flat S accross the ball. In real life you would see the edges of other seams around the perimeter of the ball as well, but since the whole logo is intended to be a graphic representation of a a ball in a glove, not actually a ball ina glove, I’m gonna let it slide.

  • Andy (#11) | January 11, 2007 at 11:45 am |

    Am I the only one who thinks the person who designed the Denver Broncos logo was a fan of the Steve Miller Band’s Greatest Hits album?

  • Art Mah | January 11, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    IIRC, the symetrical Toronto Maple Leaf old-style logo was trademarked by Carl Brewer, during his very bitter battle with Leafs management (ie. Harold Ballard) and who also fronted the proceedings to get pension money for the players after the Alan Eagleson scandal.

    So the Leafs went to the one that we see on their throwbacks. I believe this was an earlier incarnation, but I’m not entirely sure about this.

  • Jason | January 11, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    Or how about the FedEx (which originally stood for Federal Express) now has an express service and their trucks say “FedEx Express” which corelates to “Federal Express Express”.

    Weird. Well I’m off to use my PIN number at the ATM machine and get a sandwich WITH au jus.

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    I’ve never seen this Predators (TM) logo. This is another one of the rare non-profile logos. I don’t think they ahve put it on anything? Anyone know if they’ve used it?

  • Anthony Verna | January 11, 2007 at 11:51 am |

    Then this one has to bug you since it is supposed to be a ball in the P.

    http://www.seventh-i...

  • Frank from B-more | January 11, 2007 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”40376″]The Ravens logo is a pet peeve of mine. What is the “B” supposed to be. It’s not a tattoo, because you can’t tattoo feathers. And it’s not superimposed on top of the bird, because it’s tucked under some feathers near the mouth.

    Also, there is no way these teeth are drawn to scale. Are they???[/quote]

    The Ravens main logo has always been a little forced. When Modell moved the team, and let the fans pick the name he made sure that the team would be identified as a Baltimore team. Thus the B on the head of the profile bird, and the MD State Police shield on the field and the uniform. Personally I think the team ought to go with just the B on the Helmet without the Bird logo.

  • Teebz | January 11, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”40415″]I’ve never seen this Predators (TM) logo. This is another one of the rare non-profile logos. I don’t think they ahve put it on anything? Anyone know if they’ve used it?[/quote]

    It’s on their puke-green alternates.

  • Zurk | January 11, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    Great – now I will have to look at logos also! With trying to catch all the things that are going to show up on Uniwatch and checking out the Uni’s I am running out of time to watch the game! I agree with dchis on the Twins logo – stitches are definetly going an odd direction. Being a big Twins fan it’s weird I never noticed the stitches before. I’ll have to spend the rest of the day at work checking out logos! I also love the green and black striped socks on the Granny!

  • Alec | January 11, 2007 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”40414″]Or how about the FedEx (which originally stood for Federal Express) now has an express service and their trucks say “FedEx Express” which corelates to “Federal Express Express”.

    Weird. Well I’m off to use my PIN number at the ATM machine and get a sandwich WITH au jus.[/quote]

    Just another example of RAS Syndrome (Redundant Acronym Syndrome…)

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 11:54 am |

    So which Flames logo is better, the Atlanta versian or the Calgary version?

  • Jay Palmer | January 11, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”40414″]Or how about the FedEx (which originally stood for Federal Express) now has an express service and their trucks say “FedEx Express” which corelates to “Federal Express Express”.

    Weird. Well I’m off to use my PIN number at the ATM machine and get a sandwich WITH au jus.[/quote]

    Nicely done.

  • Pat | January 11, 2007 at 11:56 am |

    I don’t care if it’s not uni-related, this is frickin’ huge. What will have the greater impact on American soccer, Pele in new York or Beckham in LA? I have to go with Beckham.

  • Teebz | January 11, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”40424″]So which Flames logo is better, the Atlanta versian or the Calgary version?[/quote]

    Both are still in use today. Calgary, as a way to honour their past, use the Atlanta Flames logo as their alternate captain “A”. You can see it here on Jerome Iginla.

  • Frank from B-more | January 11, 2007 at 11:59 am |

    [quote comment=”40412″]Am I the only one who thinks the person who designed the Denver Broncos logo was a fan of the Steve Miller Band’s Greatest Hits album?[/quote]

    Denver and the NFL actually seem to have stole the logo from the Baltimore Stallions of the CFL, whick kinda sucks because the CFL wanted to use the name colts.

  • Frank from B-more | January 11, 2007 at 12:01 pm |

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”40428″][quote comment=”40424″]So which Flames logo is better, the Atlanta versian or the Calgary version?[/quote]

    Both are still in use today. Calgary, as a way to honour their past, use the Atlanta Flames logo as their alternate captain “A”. You can see it here on Jerome Iginla.[/quote]

    That’s awsome. That’s good use of the “A” for the assistant captain.

  • DrBear | January 11, 2007 at 12:06 pm |

    MUCH love on the Montreal Beavers! Kick some tail!

    As for practice jersey colors – I remember reading in the old days, they designated first, second and third lines and defense units. And the lowest-ranking ones were always in black – called the “Black Aces.” Eddie Shore, the old Bruins star who coached in the minors at Springfield for years, was notorious for sticking you with the “black aces” if you got in his doghouse.

  • Teebz | January 11, 2007 at 12:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”40431″]
    That’s awsome. That’s good use of the “A” for the assistant captain.[/quote]

    Ironically, they don’t use the Calgary “C” for the captain, though. Iginla, who is the captain this year, wears a normal block font “C”. Robyn Regehr, who is an alternate, wears the Atlanta “A”.

  • Dr | January 11, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”40359″]Not sports related, but I never noticed (until it was pointed out to me) that on the FedEx logo, the ‘E’ and ‘x’ combine to show an arrow. I never look at that logo the same anymore.[/quote]

    There is also a spoon in the logo, if you look carefully. I’m sure it was not intentional.

  • smcs | January 11, 2007 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”40431″][quote comment=”40428″][quote comment=”40424″]So which Flames logo is better, the Atlanta versian or the Calgary version?[/quote]

    Both are still in use today. Calgary, as a way to honour their past, use the Atlanta Flames logo as their alternate captain “A”. You can see it here on Jerome Iginla.[/quote]

    That’s awsome. That’s good use of the “A” for the assistant captain.[/quote]

    That would be JAROME Iginla and “A” for the ALTERNATE captiain

  • Teebz | January 11, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”40437″]
    That would be JAROME Iginla and “A” for the ALTERNATE captiain[/quote]

    Ok, mine was a spelling mistake. I apologize.

    However, assistant captain is just as acceptable as alternate captain… much in the same way that jersey and sweater are inter-changeable.

  • WVU Tom | January 11, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”40316″]
    I love the purple lights! I do not share the hatred of purple with Paul. I will be purple clad on Saturday in the upper deck as I watch the Ravens go hunting!

    [/quote]

    I have to agree.

    (I too will part of the purple legion, perch high in my nose-bleed seat in Baltimore on Saturday!)

  • todd krevanchi | January 11, 2007 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”40376″]Also, there is no way these teeth are drawn to scale. Are they???[/quote]

    amazingly enough, i would have to say there is minimal to no exaggeration at best on that photo. do a google image search for sabre tooth tiger and check out some of the skulls that come up… amazing.

    if that was the predator, i’d hate to be the prey…

  • Ben | January 11, 2007 at 12:22 pm |

    Re: Jamarcus Russell’s press conference being sponsered by Nike.

    Bullshit.

    Just because he had a Nike swoosh pin on his suit doesn’t mean the press conference was sponsered by Nike. The plain truth of the matter is that if the press conference was sponsered by anyone or anything it was a joint production of LSU and Verizon.

    How do I know this?

    Simple: I don’t have some sicko demented obsession or belief that Nike is the source of all things vile and evil in the world and I’m also smart enough to know that the true sponsers of crap like this are the companies/organizations that have their names/logos on the background walls.

    This rationalization and quasi-nazification of Nike that is building and building around here is sickening

  • concealed78 | January 11, 2007 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”40384″]This isn’t a problem with the logo but just thought the new Padres (TM) logo looked a lot like this logo and jersey design, which isn’t a bad thing. Is it close?[/quote]

    Ugh… I got motion-sickness just looking at that Fisherman Islanders jersey. Guess the Islanders were in an anti-straight line mood. “Rock the boat,” they said.

  • WVU Tom | January 11, 2007 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”40440″][quote comment=”40376″]Also, there is no way these teeth are drawn to scale. Are they???[/quote]

    amazingly enough, i would have to say there is minimal to no exaggeration at best on that photo. do a google image search for sabre tooth tiger and check out some of the skulls that come up… amazing.

    if that was the predator, i’d hate to be the prey…[/quote]

    On the subject of teeth and logos (I believe Paul has mentioned this before), I’ve always been annoyed at these teeth on the Lousiville Cardinal logo, since birds technically don’t have teeth at all.

  • Chevy | January 11, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”40434″][quote comment=”40431″]
    That’s awsome. That’s good use of the “A” for the assistant captain.[/quote]

    Ironically, they don’t use the Calgary “C” for the captain, though. Iginla, who is the captain this year, wears a normal block font “C”. Robyn Regehr, who is an alternate, wears the Atlanta “A”.[/quote]

    I know in the late 90’s when Theo Fleury was still with the Flames and they introduced the Atlanta ‘A’ as the alternate patch, they also used a smaller Calgary ‘C’ for the captain. This has since been switched back to a standard ‘C’.I’ll try and find a pisture of it…

  • Rene | January 11, 2007 at 12:28 pm |

    QUESTION: We all know how ridiculously anal the NFL is about player numbers by position. well, is it possible to “stick it to the man” by assigning players who play a certain position at a different one. ex: reggie bush listed as the backup kicker so he could wear number 5 or even the starter, who cares as long as he is a kicker doesnt necessarily mean he cant rush for x amount of plays or catch y amount of balls right? or wrong?

  • Chevy | January 11, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    Fleury wearing the Calgary ‘C’ as his captain ‘C’, you can kinda see it here.

  • concealed78 | January 11, 2007 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”40407″]I don’t know if it really qualifies as a flaw, but the asymmetry of the Chicago Bears’ ‘C’ logo has always bothered me.[/quote]

    I noticed that too. I have ( /wearing) a navy blue Bears cap with a thick orange wishbone-C and a navy blue & white Bears logo with the white lines in it (it’s from 1997). The horizontal edge of the lower end of the C tends to line up horizontally with the pinched peak on the left side end of the logo.

  • Chevy | January 11, 2007 at 12:32 pm |
  • Shane | January 11, 2007 at 12:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”40446″]QUESTION: We all know how ridiculously anal the NFL is about player numbers by position. well, is it possible to “stick it to the man” by assigning players who play a certain position at a different one. ex: reggie bush listed as the backup kicker so he could wear number 5 or even the starter, who cares as long as he is a kicker doesnt necessarily mean he cant rush for x amount of plays or catch y amount of balls right? or wrong?[/quote]

    Depends on the contract, I think. There was a Doug Flutie interview somewhere a while back where he wanted the Bills to list him as a running back so he could wear 21, but his contract specifically said “QUARTERBACK”, so they couldn’t.

    IIRC.

  • Billy | January 11, 2007 at 12:37 pm |

    This one has always bothered me…look at the Brooklyn Cyclones cap logo. you have a white ‘B’ outlined in blue, interlocking with a red ‘c’ also outlined in blue. There are 3 overlaps: the 2 bumps (is there a technical name?) on the right side of the ‘B’, and the middle line in the ‘B’. On the upper bump, the red ‘c’ and blue outline overlap the white ‘B’ and its blue outline. Bottom bump, you have the same thing, only with the ‘B’ doing the overlap. But in that middle line, the ‘B’ overlaps the ‘c’, but the blue outline does not. Id this two different letters and their respective outlines overlapping, or one interlocked logo that is outline in blue? The world may never know…

    (I don’t know how to put links in here, but you can see the logo here: http://www.brandsoft...)

  • Art Mah | January 11, 2007 at 12:38 pm |

    As mentioned above, the Flaming C had been used for the Captain in 95-96, for that little pisspot Theo Fleury. It was also at that time they started using the Atlanta A for Alternate Captains. I think they shelved it for awhile after that season until a couple of years ago.

    One thing I also remember about that, I was working at Jersey City in Edmonton. Our crester was the Flames crester in Calgary. There was a bit of a stink created because some Flames jerseys that were crested in Edmonton with a Flaming C for Fleury’s jerseys. The crester was upset because apparently, the Flames were the only team that could do that since it was their intellectual property.

    The crester was adamant about that they were the only party legally able to do that, since they were the only party authorized by the team to use their marks for cresting. I don’t know how it is now, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the template for the Atlanta A is not in the Flames cresting kits outside of Calgary

  • Art Mah | January 11, 2007 at 12:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”40453″]

    Depends on the contract, I think. There was a Doug Flutie interview somewhere a while back where he wanted the Bills to list him as a running back so he could wear 21, but his contract specifically said “QUARTERBACK”, so they couldn’t.

    IIRC.[/quote]

    When Flutie was in the CFL, he wore 20 until he went to Toronto, where he wore 2. The numbering rules aren’t as regimented in the CFL as the NFL is. If I’m not mistaken, 1-49 and 70-99 are eligible numbers, with 50-69 non-eligible numbers. It’s great to see some players wearing numbers in the 70s for wide receivers or slotbacks, but I they are a dying breed too, most of the receivers are either in the 80s or single digits.

  • Brian Crisp | January 11, 2007 at 12:49 pm |

    As much as I love my Aggies, their logo has bugged me for sometime.
    aTm
    If you were drawing a bevel T wouldn’t the down stroke of the left side of the stem match the right downstroke? It’s missing a white trapezoid.
    Luckily the football helmets, and other logos do not use a beveled T.

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”40458″]As much as I love my Aggies, their logo has bugged me for sometime.
    aTm
    If you were drawing a bevel T wouldn’t the down stroke of the left side of the stem match the right downstroke? It’s missing a white trapezoid.
    Luckily the football helmets, and other logos do not use a beveled T.[/quote]

    No not necessarily. It all depends on where the light source is coming from, that’s what affects the bevel coloring. It’s more of a shadow thing and that’s why it is on the right side.

  • todd krevanchi | January 11, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”40454″]This one has always bothered me…look at the Brooklyn Cyclones cap logo. you have a white ‘B’ outlined in blue, interlocking with a red ‘c’ also outlined in blue. There are 3 overlaps: the 2 bumps (is there a technical name?) on the right side of the ‘B’, and the middle line in the ‘B’. On the upper bump, the red ‘c’ and blue outline overlap the white ‘B’ and its blue outline. Bottom bump, you have the same thing, only with the ‘B’ doing the overlap. But in that middle line, the ‘B’ overlaps the ‘c’, but the blue outline does not. Id this two different letters and their respective outlines overlapping, or one interlocked logo that is outline in blue? The world may never know…

    (I don’t know how to put links in here, but you can see the logo here: http://www.brandsoft...)[/quote]

    so it should look like this…
    http://i12.tinypic.c...

  • WVU Tom | January 11, 2007 at 12:55 pm |

    Hey Paul, Ek, et al,

    Maybe a quick tutorial on “how to post links” in one of the blogs? You know step-by-step, closing tags, etc… It’s seems to be biggest problem many of the comment posters have.

    It’s not rocket science, but it can be a little confusing for those not familiar with how web pages work.

    Of course, it’s a little difficult because everyone is using different browsers that may behave differently–I for instance always have to click on the annoying “information bar” to allow scripted windows and reset my cursur every time with IE7.

    Anyway, just a suggestion. Keep up the good work.

  • Paul Lukas | January 11, 2007 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”40442″]Re: Jamarcus Russell’s press conference being sponsered by Nike.

    Bullshit.[/quote]

    I meant “sponsored” in the metaphorical sense. I don’t mean Nike literally underwrote/bankrolled the event; I mean Russell had a swoosh pin on his lapel for no good reason. Pointing this out is not “nazification” — it’s identifying corporate branding bullshit as corporate branding bullshit. And just so we’re clear, I’d have the same reaction if it was a Reebok pin, an Adidas pin, etc.

    Or maybe there IS a good reason for him to have been wearing the pin, which you could explain to us?

  • Brian Crisp | January 11, 2007 at 1:05 pm |

    Obviously the Texans Logo is based of the Texas Flag
    We’ve also had many discussion on here about the use of a reverse field To make it look like someone is moving forward and the flag is flying behind them.
    The Texans helemts (left side, right side) makes it look like the team is moving backwards and the flag is flying in front of them.
    This team never had a chance.

  • Pat | January 11, 2007 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”40459″][quote comment=”40458″]As much as I love my Aggies, their logo has bugged me for sometime.
    aTm
    If you were drawing a bevel T wouldn’t the down stroke of the left side of the stem match the right downstroke? It’s missing a white trapezoid.
    Luckily the football helmets, and other logos do not use a beveled T.[/quote]

    No not necessarily. It all depends on where the light source is coming from, that’s what affects the bevel coloring. It’s more of a shadow thing and that’s why it is on the right side.[/quote]

    Good point, but if we want to talk light source and highlights and shadows I think it’s right to mention that the serif on the bottom of the T (along the baseline) is missing the white “highlight” that should run across the top from the stem to the edge of the serif. The top of the ‘T’ has the highlight going across the top, why shouldn’t the serif?

  • Dave A | January 11, 2007 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”40457″][quote comment=”40453″]

    Depends on the contract, I think. There was a Doug Flutie interview somewhere a while back where he wanted the Bills to list him as a running back so he could wear 21, but his contract specifically said “QUARTERBACK”, so they couldn’t.

    IIRC.[/quote]

    When Flutie was in the CFL, he wore 20 until he went to Toronto, where he wore 2. The numbering rules aren’t as regimented in the CFL as the NFL is. If I’m not mistaken, 1-49 and 70-99 are eligible numbers, with 50-69 non-eligible numbers. It’s great to see some players wearing numbers in the 70s for wide receivers or slotbacks, but I they are a dying breed too, most of the receivers are either in the 80s or single digits.[/quote]

    In the CFL, eligible numbers are 00-39 and 70-39.

    Article 4: Eligibility of Receivers

  • maximumK | January 11, 2007 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”40463″][quote comment=”40442″]Re: Jamarcus Russell’s press conference being sponsered by Nike.

    Bullshit.[/quote]

    I meant “sponsored” in the metaphorical sense. I don’t mean Nike literally underwrote/bankrolled the event; I mean Russell had a swoosh pin on his lapel for no good reason. Pointing this out is not “nazification” — it’s identifying corporate branding bullshit as corporate branding bullshit. And just so we’re clear, I’d have the same reaction if it was a Reebok pin, an Adidas pin, etc.

    Or maybe there IS a good reason for him to have been wearing the pin, which you could explain to us?[/quote]

    You know, if I were announcing that I was going to the NFL and I were going to wear a shoe brand lapel pin for the occasion, I’d probably go with my new uni-masters: reebok.

    Here’s a totally random question: What is the origin of the word “jersey” as a description for what you wear at an athletic event? I know there are several places in the world called “Jersey” (NJ, Jersey City, Jersey, UK). Does one of those locales have something to do with the name?

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”40465″][quote comment=”40459″][quote comment=”40458″]As much as I love my Aggies, their logo has bugged me for sometime.
    aTm
    If you were drawing a bevel T wouldn’t the down stroke of the left side of the stem match the right downstroke? It’s missing a white trapezoid.
    Luckily the football helmets, and other logos do not use a beveled T.[/quote]

    No not necessarily. It all depends on where the light source is coming from, that’s what affects the bevel coloring. It’s more of a shadow thing and that’s why it is on the right side.[/quote]

    Good point, but if we want to talk light source and highlights and shadows I think it’s right to mention that the serif on the bottom of the T (along the baseline) is missing the white “highlight” that should run across the top from the stem to the edge of the serif. The top of the ‘T’ has the highlight going across the top, why shouldn’t the serif?[/quote]

    True true, good point. I guess it justs screwed up from the start with the bevel and white but without it is a very classy logo.

  • Dave A | January 11, 2007 at 1:14 pm |

    Whoops…I meant 70-99.

  • Jeff B | January 11, 2007 at 1:15 pm |

    It’s missing a white trapezoid.

    More nitpicking but wouldn’t the white part on the left serif be a parallelagram or rhombus since it is interior?

  • Original Jim | January 11, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”40388″]This was driving me crazy, so I drew the Providence logo to see what was really going on.

    I drew one that shows exact symmetry and clean 45 degree cross’ of the spokes. Come to find that there are many flaws in the original. See the comparison….The “P” has been budged to the right some and the spokes are not centered or symmetrical![/quote]

    I guess I wasn’t as clear as I thought when I mentioned the parallel lines. I meant the extra space would create parallel lines betwen the stem of the P and the lower part of the vertical spoke. But you perfectly illustrated my point. If it’s symmetrical, it doesn’t look as good.

    The slight tweaks make it look better, and I don’t think the inconsistencies it makes it look unfinished or lazy (because things don’t line up).

  • Philly Bill | January 11, 2007 at 1:16 pm |

    The Preds logo isn’t exaggerated at all:
    http://en.wikipedia....

    According to the Wiki link above: a fossil of a sabre-toothed tiger was found in downtown Nashville in August 1971, only the fifth of its kind found in North America.

    The Preds wore those pukey third jerseys on Tuesday’s OT win vs. Anaheim: http://www.nashville...

    Speaking of the Preds, does Terry Crisp have the most comically over-the-top Canadian accent of all time? Do you sound like that, Teebz?

  • Chad G | January 11, 2007 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”40455″]As mentioned above, the Flaming C had been used for the Captain in 95-96, for that little pisspot Theo Fleury. It was also at that time they started using the Atlanta A for Alternate Captains. I think they shelved it for awhile after that season until a couple of years ago.

    One thing I also remember about that, I was working at Jersey City in Edmonton. Our crester was the Flames crester in Calgary. There was a bit of a stink created because some Flames jerseys that were crested in Edmonton with a Flaming C for Fleury’s jerseys. The crester was upset because apparently, the Flames were the only team that could do that since it was their intellectual property.

    The crester was adamant about that they were the only party legally able to do that, since they were the only party authorized by the team to use their marks for cresting. I don’t know how it is now, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the template for the Atlanta A is not in the Flames cresting kits outside of Calgary[/quote]

    Maybe I’m just an idiot, but what do you mean by crester and cresting?

  • Ian K | January 11, 2007 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”40464″]Obviously the Texans Logo is based of the Texas Flag
    We’ve also had many discussion on here about the use of a reverse field To make it look like someone is moving forward and the flag is flying behind them.
    The Texans helemts (left side, right side) makes it look like the team is moving backwards and the flag is flying in front of them.
    This team never had a chance.[/quote]

    Hilarious Brian! Oh, and if all those Aggie jokes I’ve heard since moving to Texas are true, a mis-beveled logo is the least of A&M’s problems…

  • Teebz | January 11, 2007 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”40476″]
    Speaking of the Preds, does Terry Crisp have the most comically over-the-top Canadian accent of all time? Do you sound like that, Teebz?[/quote]

    Um… I don’t think I do. There are different accents across the country, and I wasn’t worn in raised in Parry Sound, Ontario. I’m more of a midwesterner, so that could do with the different accent. :o)

  • Brian Crisp | January 11, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    Let’s just all agree that the A&M logo has many shading/lighting/bevel problems.
    I love Aggie jokes, I know more and tell more than most non-Aggies. If I can’t laugh at myself, who can I laugh at? Plus, it’s been my experience that people that tell jokes like these usualy have a root of jealousy.

  • Teebz | January 11, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”40479″][quote comment=”40476″]
    Speaking of the Preds, does Terry Crisp have the most comically over-the-top Canadian accent of all time? Do you sound like that, Teebz?[/quote]

    Um… I don’t think I do. There are different accents across the country, and I wasn’t worn in raised in Parry Sound, Ontario. I’m more of a midwesterner, so that could do with the different accent. :o)[/quote]

    born*… someone pull me away from here.

  • Matt | January 11, 2007 at 1:24 pm |

    Does anyone know of any links to sites where one could view different basketball floor designs? (NCAA, NBA etc.)

  • Nolan | January 11, 2007 at 1:32 pm |

    Not uni related, but I know there are many METS fans here who could shed some light on this quote:

    “As far as just looking at Paul Lo Duca across the field, I’m not really into how he acts behind the plate,”

    What does Lo Duca do that is so reprehensible?

  • Metsfan AZ | January 11, 2007 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”40485″]Not uni related, but I know there are many METS fans here who could shed some light on this quote:

    “As far as just looking at Paul Lo Duca across the field, I’m not really into how he acts behind the plate,”

    What does Lo Duca do that is so reprehensible?[/quote]
    I feel obligated to respond, however I have no idea. I was much more offended by Piazza’s inability to throw anyone out.

  • Paul Lukas | January 11, 2007 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”40485″]Not uni related, but I know there are many METS fans here who could shed some light on this quote:

    “As far as just looking at Paul Lo Duca across the field, I’m not really into how he acts behind the plate,”

    What does Lo Duca do that is so reprehensible?[/quote]

    Well, he is a bit of a hothead. Wouldn’t surprise me if the umps dislike him for this, which might mean his pitchers don’t get a lot of borderline calls.

  • Philly Bill | January 11, 2007 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”40479″]Um… I don’t think I do. There are different accents across the country, and I wasn’t born and raised in Parry Sound, Ontario. I’m more of a midwesterner, so that could do with the different accent. :o)[/quote]

    Well, Bobby Orr doesn’t sound like Crispy, does he?

    (I’m not trying to goof on Canadians — I even know Robert Gordon Orr’s home town! Actually, Crispy is awesome. He does a great job on the Preds’ telecasts.)

    BTW, big ups to Christopher (#33) for the Clippers logo tip. That’s INSANE — much worse than the Sharks logo. I’ll never be able to look at it the same way again.

  • Johnny O | January 11, 2007 at 1:47 pm |

    At the time when the Milwaukee “Ball-in-glove” logo came out, the Brewers were sponsored by Pepsi. A student from either UW-Eau Claire or UW-Lacrosse designed the logo for a contest, and only won like $200 for it. But anyways, it has always been said the Brewers organization deliberatly made the ball look like the pepsi logo for some free advertising. As a side note…the Brewers TV broadcasts are still sponsored by Pepsi…it’s the cola.

    Pepsi logo creep

  • Ben | January 11, 2007 at 1:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”40463″][quote comment=”40442″]Re: Jamarcus Russell’s press conference being sponsered by Nike.

    Bullshit.[/quote]

    I meant “sponsored” in the metaphorical sense. I don’t mean Nike literally underwrote/bankrolled the event; I mean Russell had a swoosh pin on his lapel for no good reason. Pointing this out is not “nazification” — it’s identifying corporate branding bullshit as corporate branding bullshit. And just so we’re clear, I’d have the same reaction if it was a Reebok pin, an Adidas pin, etc.

    Or maybe there IS a good reason for him to have been wearing the pin, which you could explain to us?[/quote]

    How the hell do you know that Russell to quote you, “had a swoosh pin on his lapel for no good reason??”

    Were you at the press conference? If you were and were so outraged by the swoosh, then why didn’t you ask him why he was wearing the sign of the One True Satan on his jacket lapel? As for a good reason why he had the lapel pin, well DUH, LSU is a Nike school.

  • Johnny O | January 11, 2007 at 1:48 pm |
  • Nolan | January 11, 2007 at 1:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”40487″][quote comment=”40485″]
    What does Lo Duca do that is so reprehensible?[/quote]

    Well, he is a bit of a hothead. Wouldn’t surprise me if the umps dislike him for this, which might mean his pitchers don’t get a lot of borderline calls.[/quote]

    Makes sense, thanks.

  • Kerry | January 11, 2007 at 1:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”40376″]Also, there is no way these teeth are drawn to scale. Are they???[/quote]
    YOU BE THE JUDGE – this ia a cast taken from an authentic sabre-tooth tiger skull.

  • Jay Palmer | January 11, 2007 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”40493″]At the time when the Milwaukee “Ball-in-glove” logo came out, the Brewers were sponsored by Pepsi. A student from either UW-Eau Claire or UW-Lacrosse designed the logo for a contest, and only won like $200 for it. But anyways, it has always been said the Brewers organization deliberatly made the ball look like the pepsi logo for some free advertising. As a side note…the Brewers TV broadcasts are still sponsored by Pepsi…it’s the cola.

    Pepsi logo creep[/quote]

    WOW, never notice that before…nice catch.

  • Teebz | January 11, 2007 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”40497″][quote comment=”40487″][quote comment=”40485″]
    What does Lo Duca do that is so reprehensible?[/quote]

    Well, he is a bit of a hothead. Wouldn’t surprise me if the umps dislike him for this, which might mean his pitchers don’t get a lot of borderline calls.[/quote]

    Makes sense, thanks.[/quote]

    Actually, the Canadian Press took it a bit further.

    “Thomson’s dislike of the Mets could also stem from his seasons with the Braves and their rivalry with New York. He was loyal to his club and appreciated what manager Bobby Cox did for him last Sept. 27, letting him pitch in a game against the Mets so Thomson could showcase himself.” – Canadian Press

    Since only the Mets and Jays offered a 40-man spot for Thomson while a number of teams, including the Braves, offered minor-league contracts, I can see Thomson making taking a shot at his former division rivals.

    While I don’t think Do Luca is the reason for Thomson not signing with the Mets, Paul’s reason would hold true as well. His signing with the Jays could stem from his dislike of Do Luca when Thomson was with the Braves. They may have crossed paths there one too mnay times.

  • Rob | January 11, 2007 at 2:01 pm |

    You should check out Weird Al’s “Close But No Cigar” on the new album (“Straight Outta Lynwood”) that goes well with the opening to this post.

  • Teebz | January 11, 2007 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”40489″][quote comment=”40479″]Um… I don’t think I do. There are different accents across the country, and I wasn’t born and raised in Parry Sound, Ontario. I’m more of a midwesterner, so that could do with the different accent. :o)[/quote]

    Well, Bobby Orr doesn’t sound like Crispy, does he?

    (I’m not trying to goof on Canadians — I even know Robert Gordon Orr’s home town! Actually, Crispy is awesome. He does a great job on the Preds’ telecasts.)
    [/quote]

    Orr doesn’t, and good on you, Philly Bill. I’m quite sure I don’t sound like Crisp. I was just commenting on how different parts of Canada have different accents, which may account for his “sound”. :o)

  • GoMac | January 11, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    Alright..so I’m doing 8 things at once as usual..so I’m reading our beloved Uni Watch and checking my MySpace at the same time..only when the main page loads..it’s ad is this..

    Sigh..that’s depressing on so many levels..

  • Kerry | January 11, 2007 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”40494″][quote comment=”40463″][quote comment=”40442″]Re: Jamarcus Russell’s press conference being sponsered by Nike.

    Bullshit.[/quote]

    I meant “sponsored” in the metaphorical sense. I don’t mean Nike literally underwrote/bankrolled the event; I mean Russell had a swoosh pin on his lapel for no good reason. Pointing this out is not “nazification” — it’s identifying corporate branding bullshit as corporate branding bullshit. And just so we’re clear, I’d have the same reaction if it was a Reebok pin, an Adidas pin, etc.

    Or maybe there IS a good reason for him to have been wearing the pin, which you could explain to us?[/quote]

    How the hell do you know that Russell to quote you, “had a swoosh pin on his lapel for no good reason??”

    Were you at the press conference? If you were and were so outraged by the swoosh, then why didn’t you ask him why he was wearing the sign of the One True Satan on his jacket lapel? As for a good reason why he had the lapel pin, well DUH, LSU is a Nike school.[/quote]
    Seriously….chill out man. From your reactions, you’d think that Paul said something really bad about a relative.

    As for the justification that “LSU is a Nike School,” tell me why THIS MANisn’t wearing one?? And HERE’S THE 2 TOGETHER.

    I’m an LSU alum and currently live in Baton Rouge. I think that the reasoning is one of two things:
    [1] “All the cool kids are doing it!” What I mean by that is that Nike is the “IN” thing in sports. People LOVE to wear that swoosh. Just like people HAVE to have the latest designer cloths or newest technology gadgets.

    [2] He’s looking to get an endorsement deal with Nike (or maybe already has something lined up). And you can’t blame him to try to milk as much out of the opportunity as he can.

    Personally, Swoosh-clad or Swoosh-less, I wish him nothing but the best of luck and hope he becomes one the NFL’s top quarterbacks one day.

  • Johnny O | January 11, 2007 at 2:16 pm |

    I found out the real scoop. The Brewers “Ball-in glove” logo was selected among more than 2,000 entries from both professional and amateur designers in an open contest in October and November 1977. Tom Meindel, an Art History student at the University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire, designed the logo and earned the $2,000 first prize. The logo combines the lower case letters “m” and “b”, the club’s initials, to form a baseball glove.

    I also found this awesome article on the current Brewers logo vs. the old one. Two years agao the peopel at MIller Park had a shirt give a way. You could choose between the ball-in-glove logo, and the new one. The results heavily favored the old logo, and that is how the Brewers decided to do Retro Sundays and have the old logo show up once in a while.

    Milwaukee Journal Sentinal article

  • Jack | January 11, 2007 at 2:20 pm |

    I know this isn’t sports logo related, but there is a glaring design flaw in the poster for the greatest movie of the year. The way the snakes are wrapped around the plane only one has a tail. I personally think its the snake on the left, but it’s open to interpretation.

    http://imagecache2.a...

  • tedkerwin | January 11, 2007 at 2:22 pm |

    I stumbled upon this page while looking for a clarification on the NBA rules. I saw three interesting links. The first is the NBA Dress Code link which has a photo gallery of NBA players with analysis by a GQ editor. It is funny that some of his suggestion on what players should wear off the Court do not always apply to the uniforms they wear on the Court.

    Further, the picture of Stern holding the new ball at a window overlooking a plaza clearly in Europe, maybe Italy or Spain, in a purple tie must make Paul cringe. I wonder why Stern had the new ball with him for photo ops on his vacation.

    Finally, the bulls logo on the banner behind Wallace appears to be an attempt to make a bull’s body out of Six NBA Championship trophies with the Bull head pasted on the front. It is really quite ugly. Is this something they use often? I have never seen it before. Any one have information?


    NBA Link

  • Joe Hilseberg | January 11, 2007 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”40517″]I know this isn’t sports logo related, but there is a glaring design flaw in the poster for the greatest movie of the year. The way the snakes are wrapped around the plane only one has a tail. I personally think its the snake on the left, but it’s open to interpretation.

    http://imagecache2.a...

    Out of respect to all who read and post to this site, please don’t ever reference Snakes on A Plane again.

  • Pat | January 11, 2007 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”40518″]I stumbled upon this page while looking for a clarification on the NBA rules. I saw three interesting links. The first is the NBA Dress Code link which has a photo gallery of NBA players with analysis by a GQ editor. It is funny that some of his suggestion on what players should wear off the Court do not always apply to the uniforms they wear on the Court.

    Further, the picture of Stern holding the new ball at a window overlooking a plaza clearly in Europe, maybe Italy or Spain, in a purple tie must make Paul cringe. I wonder why Stern had the new ball with him for photo ops on his vacation.

    Finally, the bulls logo on the banner behind Wallace appears to be an attempt to make a bull’s body out of Six NBA Championship trophies with the Bull head pasted on the front. It is really quite ugly. Is this something they use often? I have never seen it before. Any one have information?


    NBA Link
    [/quote]

    You are streeeeeeeeeeetching for that Bulls thing with the 6 trophies making up a bull’s body. I just think it’s a way for them to show off that they have 6 championships. Good thing the Celtics never did this or they wouldn’t be able to fit the image anywhere.

    I don’t understand how you can say that the scene outside Stern’s window is “clearly” somewhere in Europe. The NBA doesn’t have any offices in Europe, first of all. Second, that could be any major city in the US, including New York City where the NBA headquarters happens to be. A lot of old European and Ancient Roman architecture became popular in the US in the early 1900s, which would explain the buildings out the window.

    Last, I think we all know that Paul isn’t fond of the color purple. But am I the only one that finds it quite annoying every time someone points out that something somebody wore was purple, or posts a link to something purple and makes a bad joke about how Paul must hate it?

  • GoMac | January 11, 2007 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”40303″]NOTE TO EVERYONE:

    Don’t post links to images on Chris Creamer’s site… they don’t work unless you’re on the site… they’re protected by some goofy script.

    Just an FYI. I love his site (even though he’s a bit nutty on the security).[/quote]

    Just reload and it works..

    And God I love American Apparel..

  • jesse | January 11, 2007 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”40512″][quote comment=”40494″][quote comment=”40463″][quote comment=”40442″]Re: Jamarcus Russell’s press conference being sponsered by Nike.

    Bullshit.[/quote]

    I meant “sponsored” in the metaphorical sense. I don’t mean Nike literally underwrote/bankrolled the event; I mean Russell had a swoosh pin on his lapel for no good reason. Pointing this out is not “nazification” — it’s identifying corporate branding bullshit as corporate branding bullshit. And just so we’re clear, I’d have the same reaction if it was a Reebok pin, an Adidas pin, etc.

    Or maybe there IS a good reason for him to have been wearing the pin, which you could explain to us?[/quote]

    How the hell do you know that Russell to quote you, “had a swoosh pin on his lapel for no good reason??”

    Were you at the press conference? If you were and were so outraged by the swoosh, then why didn’t you ask him why he was wearing the sign of the One True Satan on his jacket lapel? As for a good reason why he had the lapel pin, well DUH, LSU is a Nike school.[/quote]
    Seriously….chill out man. From your reactions, you’d think that Paul said something really bad about a relative.

    As for the justification that “LSU is a Nike School,” tell me why THIS MANisn’t wearing one?? And HERE’S THE 2 TOGETHER.

    I’m an LSU alum and currently live in Baton Rouge. I think that the reasoning is one of two things:
    [1] “All the cool kids are doing it!” What I mean by that is that Nike is the “IN” thing in sports. People LOVE to wear that swoosh. Just like people HAVE to have the latest designer cloths or newest technology gadgets.

    [2] He’s looking to get an endorsement deal with Nike (or maybe already has something lined up). And you can’t blame him to try to milk as much out of the opportunity as he can.

    Personally, Swoosh-clad or Swoosh-less, I wish him nothing but the best of luck and hope he becomes one the NFL’s top quarterbacks one day.[/quote]

    Anybody think that because JaMarcus is going pro, and can take endorsements for the first time that Nike simply threw the guy a few bucks to wear it at the press conference? Especially since Reebok has the endorsement deal for the NFL. The guy was probably stone cold broke this morning, and while he won’t be for much longer, the couple grand he got probably helped him out a lot. Seems like a simple enough explanation to me.

  • Kerry | January 11, 2007 at 2:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”40524″][quote comment=”40303″]NOTE TO EVERYONE:

    Don’t post links to images on Chris Creamer’s site… they don’t work unless you’re on the site… they’re protected by some goofy script.

    Just an FYI. I love his site (even though he’s a bit nutty on the security).[/quote]

    Just reload and it works..

    And God I love American Apparel..[/quote]
    Not necessarily. It all depends on what browser you’re using. Also, you have to remember that a large group of us access this site from work as a way to help us get through the day. Therefore, we’re stuck using whatever browser our employer uses. I mean it’s not that hard to just copy and past the link from Chris Creamer as opposed to posting the link to the pic.

  • Brian Crisp | January 11, 2007 at 3:00 pm |

    The basketball on this logo looks a little off too.
    Mavericks
    Also if Merriam-Webster defines Maverick as “an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party” can you really make is a plural? It’s kind of like “The Lone Rangers” from Airheads.

  • Matthew S. | January 11, 2007 at 3:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”40523″][quote comment=”40518″]I stumbled upon this page while looking for a clarification on the NBA rules. I saw three interesting links. The first is the NBA Dress Code link which has a photo gallery of NBA players with analysis by a GQ editor. It is funny that some of his suggestion on what players should wear off the Court do not always apply to the uniforms they wear on the Court.

    Further, the picture of Stern holding the new ball at a window overlooking a plaza clearly in Europe, maybe Italy or Spain, in a purple tie must make Paul cringe. I wonder why Stern had the new ball with him for photo ops on his vacation.

    Finally, the bulls logo on the banner behind Wallace appears to be an attempt to make a bull’s body out of Six NBA Championship trophies with the Bull head pasted on the front. It is really quite ugly. Is this something they use often? I have never seen it before. Any one have information?


    NBA Link
    [/quote]

    You are streeeeeeeeeeetching for that Bulls thing with the 6 trophies making up a bull’s body. I just think it’s a way for them to show off that they have 6 championships. Good thing the Celtics never did this or they wouldn’t be able to fit the image anywhere.

    I don’t understand how you can say that the scene outside Stern’s window is “clearly” somewhere in Europe. The NBA doesn’t have any offices in Europe, first of all. Second, that could be any major city in the US, including New York City where the NBA headquarters happens to be. A lot of old European and Ancient Roman architecture became popular in the US in the early 1900s, which would explain the buildings out the window.

    Last, I think we all know that Paul isn’t fond of the color purple. But am I the only one that finds it quite annoying every time someone points out that something somebody wore was purple, or posts a link to something purple and makes a bad joke about how Paul must hate it?[/quote]

    Pat, the NBA does have a presence in Europe, Asia, and South America as can be surmised from this: http://www.nba.com/g...

    I won’t go so far as to say that they ‘have offices’ there, but it’s not exactly outlandish that David Stern would be pictured there, particularly when you consider all of the preseason games that took place in France and Spain in October. http://www.insidehoo...

    Stern, at the time, was trying to push the merits of the new ball. So given that several preseason games took place in Europe in the preseason, and Commissioner Stern was trying to sell the new ball, it’s not exactly out of the question that he would be in Europe at the time.

    And while I’ve never been to New York, I will say that picture does look like it was taken in an Italian city (not many U.S. cities have public plazas with loads of statuary as that picture does). And that conclusion is partially supported by the fact that NBA execs were in Europe during the preseason as can be seen here: http://www.nba.com/e...

    I realize that this is largely circumstantial evidence, but it’s just something to think about.

  • Pat | January 11, 2007 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”40535″]Pat, the NBA does have a presence in Europe, Asia, and South America as can be surmised from this: http://www.nba.com/g...

    I won’t go so far as to say that they ‘have offices’ there, but it’s not exactly outlandish that David Stern would be pictured there, particularly when you consider all of the preseason games that took place in France and Spain in October. http://www.insidehoo...

    Stern, at the time, was trying to push the merits of the new ball. So given that several preseason games took place in Europe in the preseason, and Commissioner Stern was trying to sell the new ball, it’s not exactly out of the question that he would be in Europe at the time.

    And while I’ve never been to New York, I will say that picture does look like it was taken in an Italian city (not many U.S. cities have public plazas with loads of statuary as that picture does). And that conclusion is partially supported by the fact that NBA execs were in Europe during the preseason as can be seen here: http://www.nba.com/e...

    I realize that this is largely circumstantial evidence, but it’s just something to think about.[/quote]

    Point taken, just arguing the validity of “clearly” being used. I’ve been to NY before and don’t remember seeing this exact plaza but I have been to places like it outside of Manhattan. I’m not saying it’s definitley NY but I’m not saying it’s definitley Europe. But like I said, the architecture does definitley have early Europena influences, and I completely forgot about the NBA Europe thing this preseason (which had some great uniforms by the way, the sixers and spurs being the best of the 4[?] teams that went over. I can only remember the Sixers, Spurs, Suns and Clippers).

  • Paul Lukas | January 11, 2007 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”40494″]As for a good reason why he had the lapel pin, well DUH, LSU is a Nike school.[/quote]

    Ah, yes. That’s why it makes perfect sense for someone to wear a Nike lapel pin on his fancy suit as he’s announcing that he’s leaving the school. Of course.

    I think we’re gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

  • Art Mah | January 11, 2007 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”40477″]
    Maybe I’m just an idiot, but what do you mean by crester and cresting?[/quote]

    The crester is the company that attaches the names and numbers onto the jerseys. That is the term that at least the ones in Calgary and Edmonton use to describes themselves.

  • Richard Zelonka | January 11, 2007 at 3:09 pm |

    Useless logo creep stat from ussoccer.com:

    Articles

    Men’s National Team

    MNT Training Camp Blog from Carson, Calif. – Back to Work

    Joe Cannon leads the goalkeepers through some agility work.
    © U.S. Soccer
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    U.S. MNT Kicks Off First Training Camp Under Bob Bradley
    Quote Sheet: U.S. MNT Head Coach Bob Bradley and Players Discuss the First Day of Training

    A lot has changed since the last time the U.S. Men’s National Team took the field, most notably at the top of the program where Bob Bradley takes over as head coach. Additionally, there are a slew of new faces throughout the player pool, and Bradley and his staff have their work cut out to find the right combination of players for a busy year ahead. Following their upcoming friendlies vs. Denmark (Jan. 20) and Mexico (Feb. 7), the U.S. will look to defend their CONCACAF Gold Cup title this summer. Just a few days later, it’s off to CONMEBOL’s signature event, the Copa America. So while there’s tremendous excitement about the coming weeks and months, Bradley and his staff are taking it one day at a time. To give fans an inside look as this process unfolds, ussoccer.com presents this exclusive Training Camp Blog from Carson, Calif., as the 2010 World Cup cycle officially gets underway.

    Wednesday, Jan. 10 @ 12:21 p.m. – Anatomy of the training session:

    1. Warm up and dynamic stretching (10 minutes)
    2. Rotation of 5v5 plus one keep away in a 40×30 grid for five minutes, with the third group doing short running exercises (15 minutes total)
    3. Group splits in half; each using half-field. Group 1 goes 2v1 to big goal with keepers. Group 2 plays 7v3 to big goal, with offense working on combining through the middle of the field as well as crossing, and defenders working on staying connected. Groups switch after 12 minutes (24 minutes total)
    4. 10v10 to big goals, each goal sitting on the six-yard line and using full width. (20 minutes)
    5. Two groups starting at either endline. Running from endline to opposite 18 and back. After five repetitions, a four-minute jog maintaining elevated heart rate. One minute rest, then second cycle (10 minutes)
    6. Cool down and stretching (6 minutes)

    Whew. You think you got what it takes?

    Wednesday, Jan. 10 @ 9: 33 a.m. PT
    Impromptu interview #2 – Danny Califf, on the ride to training

    ussoccer.com: What was the transition like going to a club in such a faraway land?

    Danny: The club has been outstanding, and the players have been very cool and welcoming. They go out of their way to include me in things they’re doing off the field, like dinners, movies, and stuff like that.
    Whenever I’m around they switch from Danish to English so I don’t feel out of place. The club takes care of so many little things, like helping you through the work permit process, finding a place to live …
    whatever you need, they look after it for you.

    us: Tell us one cool thing about the town of Aalborg.

    DC: It’s a university town, so every weekend the main strip in town is really buzzing. There’s a street called Jom Fro Ane Gading where all the bars and clubs are located, and it’s got a great vibe.

    us: and the Danish food you like the most?

    DC: I’m not big on Danish food per se, but I love what they do with burgers. They serve them on a bun open-faced and eat them with a knife and fork. Toppings include beets, pickled cabbage and some type of brown sauce. Fantastic.

    us: Being a SoCal guy your whole life and moving to a rather different environment – on so many levels -, what have you found surprising about living in Denmark?

    DC: There’s a tremendous amount of trust and respect amongst the people. You always feel really safe, and you don’t have to worry if you don’t lock your garage door or leave a bike outside. Here’s a great example: families like to stroll around with their kids in these big ‘buggies’. Most of the restaurants are really small, and there’s really no where to put them. So people will leave their kids outside with a baby monitor in the buggy, and go in and enjoy their meal. It wouldn’t even cross their mind that someone would cause a problem with their children, because it doesn’t happen. Living in that kind of environment of trust and security is very refreshing.

    us: What’s your favorite Danish word to say?

    DC: “Tak.” It means ‘thank you’. Really easy to say, and very versatile.

    Tuesday, Jan. 9 @ 9:58 p.m. PT
    Wandering down the players’ hallway and heard some acoustic music coming from a room. Popped in to find Pablo Mastroeni practicing ‘Warning Signs’ by Cold Play. It’s amazing to hear how far he’s come with his guitar playing since he composed the ‘tribute’ to Landon Donovan that appeared on ESPN just before the 2002 World Cup (anyone remember the bobblehead?). Pablo’s got a ton of great tunes in the repertoire, and his partner Chris Albright is still belting out the vocals, so stay tuned for another concert from Carson…

    Tuesday, Jan. 9 @ 6:46 p.m. PT
    See if you can picture this one. At the dinner table tonight, Eddie Johnson sits down holding a plate with a pile of tuna fish topped with mayo, mustard and thousand island dressing. Eddie and a couple of the guys swear by it. Feel free to e-mail us and let us know how it tastes if you decide to ‘train like the pros do’…

    Tuesday, Jan. 9 @ 5:10 p.m. PT
    The afternoon session served as both recovery and strength training. Assistant coach Peter Nowak set up 14 different stations that covered abdominal training, agility, upper body strength and leg exercises. Players worked in pairs and performed at each station in 30 second intervals, going through two rotations. Combined with warm up and cool down runs, it was just over an hour before the players drove off into the California sunset and back to the hotel for more well-earned rest.

    Tuesday, Jan. 9 @ 1 p.m. PT
    ESPN set up shop in the hotel this morning to shoot a series of interviews to be used throughout the first two games. In addition to their usual requests for Landon Donovan, Pablo Mastroeni and Jimmy Conrad, a few of the rookies got their first taste of being in the ESPN spotlight: Jonathan Bornstein, Michael Parkhurst and Kenny Cooper all showed a lot of poise when the red light went on…

    Tuesday, Jan. 9 @ 11:28 a.m. PT
    Chivas USA striker Ante Razov strolled out to watch the end of training and say hello to his former boss and teammates. Ante was as stylin’ as ever, and said he is looking forward to getting back to business.

    Tuesday, Jan. 9 @ 9:51 a.m. PT
    As the second phase of training camp begins, the players are strapped with heart monitors for the first time. They’ll be wearing the devices for the duration of the morning session, and the information is being transmitted and monitored in real time. Picture a guy carrying a laptop with a hood around the field with a serious look on his face. Sadly for those who like to keep score, no fitness competitions so far. But the soccer sharpness is steadily returning. This was probably the toughest session of the camp so far…

    Monday, Jan. 8 @ 10:41 p.m. PT
    Some fun and not so useful stats from camp so far:

    7 – cases of gatorade energy shakes consumed
    10 – cases of water consumed
    12 – cases of gatorade consumed
    12 – hours of training in four days
    19 – hours of video shot between training, meetings and coaching education lectures
    256 – nike swooshes on the field at any one time adorning clothing, balls and equipment
    390 – pounds of laundry washed in four days
    684 – number of photos taken by ussoccer.com photographers at training

  • hotrodd | January 11, 2007 at 3:11 pm |

    since the picture of stern is filenamed 061006 one could surmise that it was taken on October 6, 06 (as i recall the new ball not having been introduced on June 6) this would fit right in with the timetable of teams playing in europe during preseason. ALSO there was a basketball tournament in Europe this summer was there not? Is it that unreasonable for Stern to have been over there for that?

  • S Bennett | January 11, 2007 at 3:13 pm |

    Here’s a totally random question: What is the origin of the word “jersey” as a description for what you wear at an athletic event? I know there are several places in the world called “Jersey” (NJ, Jersey City, Jersey, UK). Does one of those locales have something to do with the name?[/quote]

    According to my exhaustive research, Jerseys are called jerseys because “they were first made from jersey cloth, machine woven fabrics of wool, etc., manfactured on the Island of Jersey” (QPB encyclopedia of word and phrase origins) Kinda like Paisley started in paisley, or Harris Tweed started on Harris Island.

    The Island of Jersey There are some offerings on the aforementioned site that offr w the place was named Jersey, but the QPB encyclopedia of word and phrase origins offers that Jersey is a corruption of the word Caesarea, or Caesar, as we’d say it, in reference to Roman occupation way back when. The “ey” suffix means “island”, so this would translate to “The Caesar’s Island”

    Well, that’s one theory at least.

  • Thorold Blair | January 11, 2007 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”40446″]QUESTION: We all know how ridiculously anal the NFL is about player numbers by position. well, is it possible to “stick it to the man” by assigning players who play a certain position at a different one. ex: reggie bush listed as the backup kicker so he could wear number 5 or even the starter, who cares as long as he is a kicker doesnt necessarily mean he cant rush for x amount of plays or catch y amount of balls right? or wrong?[/quote]

    The Seahawks tried to do that with Brian Bosworth (wearing 44 caliming they’d use him as a fullback).. it didn’t fly

  • Art Mah | January 11, 2007 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”40539″][quote comment=”40494″]As for a good reason why he had the lapel pin, well DUH, LSU is a Nike school.[/quote]

    Ah, yes. That’s why it makes perfect sense for someone to wear a Nike lapel pin on his fancy suit as he’s announcing that he’s leaving the school. Of course.

    I think we’re gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.[/quote]

    Has anyone thought that Russell may have signed with Nike as his first act in turning pro? If he did, I bet he obliged a request to wear the pin from a Nike flack. Not trying to add fuel to the fire, but just throwing that out there.

  • Matthew S. | January 11, 2007 at 3:19 pm |

    There were some pretty interesting uniform alterations because of the preseason games. The Sixers added gold and red shoulder stripes representing the flag of Cataluna because they played a club team in Barcelona. I think the Spurs had the French tricolor in stripes down the side of their uniforms when they play in France (I think it was in Lyon), and I seem to remember the Suns adding stripes to uniforms too, but don’t recall the details.

    I made a quick attempt to google some pictures, but couldn’t find anything. There is at least one previous blog entry by Paul dealing with this though. Check the archives.

  • S Bennett | January 11, 2007 at 3:20 pm |

    Two points about this picture, from the announcement of Walter Smith as Rangers boss:

    1) By the time the press conference for TV was put together, Walter Smith was wearining the same tie, as were all the Rangers executives.

    2) The ties are red, Yellow and Black. Those are Partick Thistle colors! Partick are another Glasgow based team, BTW.

    Can you imagine the Giants hosting a press conference where all club officials wore green and white ties? Odd.

  • Kenny | January 11, 2007 at 3:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”40410″]i just realized that no only do the socks in MLS have the three Adidas stripes on the top, but they also have the Adidas logo on them. And yes, Clint was wearing yellow cleats in the photo.[/quote]

    But why is he wearing Nike if everything else is Adidas?

  • Paul Lukas | January 11, 2007 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”40546″]Has anyone thought that Russell may have signed with Nike as his first act in turning pro?[/quote]

    So what? Then let him just wear a “Property of Nike” T-shirt to the press conference, instead of a nice suit, if that’s what it boils down to.

    My objection to this is that Nike — and, yes, other companies — basically see any surface of anything as a place to advertise. That is offensive and, I’d argue, civically and culturally unhealthy.

  • Minna H. | January 11, 2007 at 3:22 pm |

    Ok. I had to look at the other MN logos since the Twins and Timberwolves’ logos were both brought up. The Vikings logo’s horns are incorrect. Rather, the back horn is incorrect. With the way the head is, the back horn should not be showing. Also, the braid is incorrect as the hunks of hair should cross every other. There are two hanks from one side at the top, and the bottom of the braid looks as if one hank of hair is just wrapped all the way around the end.

    The Wild! logo, besides being a mess in general, has two small design flaws. The mouth is lined up incorrectly and the first tree on the left is missing its top.

    I like the Timberwolves shadow on their trees, but the Twins’ ball is going to bug me from now on.

    This makes me wonder, however, if there are more logos that are slightly (or not so slightly) askew than there are ones that are pretty damn near perfect.

  • S Bennett | January 11, 2007 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”40551″][quote comment=”40410″]i just realized that no only do the socks in MLS have the three Adidas stripes on the top, but they also have the Adidas logo on them. And yes, Clint was wearing yellow cleats in the photo.[/quote]

    But why is he wearing Nike if everything else is Adidas?[/quote]

    Personal sponsorship vs. club sponsorship.

  • Pat | January 11, 2007 at 3:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”40551″][quote comment=”40410″]i just realized that no only do the socks in MLS have the three Adidas stripes on the top, but they also have the Adidas logo on them. And yes, Clint was wearing yellow cleats in the photo.[/quote]

    Same reason Kobe Bryant can wear Nike, Allen Iverson can wear Reebok and Stephon Marbury can wear… whatever company it is that makes those shoes he has. The NBA uniforms are made by Adidas. It’s all about individual contracts.

    But why is he wearing Nike if everything else is Adidas?[/quote]

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”40553″]Ok. I had to look at the other MN logos since the Twins and Timberwolves’ logos were both brought up. The Vikings logo’s horns are incorrect. Rather, the back horn is incorrect. With the way the head is, the back horn should not be showing. Also, the braid is incorrect as the hunks of hair should cross every other. There are two hanks from one side at the top, and the bottom of the braid looks as if one hank of hair is just wrapped all the way around the end.

    The Wild! logo, besides being a mess in general, has two small design flaws. The mouth is lined up incorrectly and the first tree on the left is missing its top.

    I like the Timberwolves shadow on their trees, but the Twins’ ball is going to bug me from now on.

    This makes me wonder, however, if there are more logos that are slightly (or not so slightly) askew than there are ones that are pretty damn near perfect.[/quote]

    Minna,

    I didn’t ruin your day with the Twins logo did I? I do think it is odd though that such a good logo as what the Twins have would have that major of a problem with it.

  • S Bennett | January 11, 2007 at 3:31 pm |


    Has anyone thought that Russell may have signed with Nike as his first act in turning pro? If he did, I bet he obliged a request to wear the pin from a Nike flack. Not trying to add fuel to the fire, but just throwing that out there.

    Art, regardless of how close to the mark your idea is, I, for one, appreciate the fact you managed to offer it without a tone that calls everyone who might not agree with you a total dickhead. A shame others on the board can’t figure that out.

  • Kerry | January 11, 2007 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”40546″][quote comment=”40539″][quote comment=”40494″]As for a good reason why he had the lapel pin, well DUH, LSU is a Nike school.[/quote]

    Ah, yes. That’s why it makes perfect sense for someone to wear a Nike lapel pin on his fancy suit as he’s announcing that he’s leaving the school. Of course.

    I think we’re gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.[/quote]

    Has anyone thought that Russell may have signed with Nike as his first act in turning pro? If he did, I bet he obliged a request to wear the pin from a Nike flack. Not trying to add fuel to the fire, but just throwing that out there.[/quote]
    In a word, “yes.” Check out my comment earlier…#184.

  • Minna H. | January 11, 2007 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”40559″]

    Minna,

    I didn’t ruin your day with the Twins logo did I? I do think it is odd though that such a good logo as what the Twins have would have that major of a problem with it.[/quote]

    No, dchis, you didn’t ruin it, but I cannot stop looking at the weird seamage (yes, I made up that word). Like you said, the rest of the logo rocks—who thought up the seam? It would be so easy to fix, too, and I wonder if anyone in the Twins organisation has thought of it.

  • todd krevanchi | January 11, 2007 at 3:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”40512″]I’m an LSU alum and currently live in Baton Rouge. I think that the reasoning is one of two things:
    [1] “All the cool kids are doing it!” What I mean by that is that Nike is the “IN” thing in sports. People LOVE to wear that swoosh. Just like people HAVE to have the latest designer cloths or newest technology gadgets.

    [2] He’s looking to get an endorsement deal with Nike (or maybe already has something lined up). And you can’t blame him to try to milk as much out of the opportunity as he can.[/quote]

    agreed, on point 1. however, players may also have been issued these pins to wear with their suits or on their blazers for game day.

    agreed, on point 2. i thought i read that he hasnt signed with an agent yet, so shopping for endorsements without the proper representation is kind of sketchy.

    [quote comment=”40518″]I stumbled upon this page while looking for a clarification on the NBA rules. I saw three interesting links. The first is the NBA Dress Code link which has a photo gallery of NBA players with analysis by a GQ editor. It is funny that some of his suggestion on what players should wear off the Court do not always apply to the uniforms they wear on the Court.
    nba link
    [/quote]

    wow, today i am wearing virtually the identical tie that kobe bryant has on in this feature.

    and isnt the arrangement of larry obrien trophys simply a pyramid?

    [quote comment=”40524″]

    And God I love American Apparel..[/quote]

    is it just me or does she look a bit, how do you say, used?

    gimme less of the beat chick in stirrups, and say more of these 2 softball animals,in them…
    the finch:
    http://www.101lifest...

    http://farm1.static....

    the cat:
    http://farm1.static....

    http://www.texasspor...

    http://media.college...

    http://www.burntoran...

    http://www.burntoran...

  • Zurk | January 11, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    Minna – we shoudl start a Fix the Logo campaign!!

  • Kerry | January 11, 2007 at 3:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”40553″]The Wild! logo, besides being a mess in general, has two small design flaws. The mouth is lined up incorrectly and the first tree on the left is missing its top.[/quote]
    OK, maybe I’m missing something…how is it lined up incorrectly? Just curious. Personally, I don’t see what you mean by that.

    Secondly, I think that the intention of the logo is for the trees to be in some kind of perspective. I don’t that the tree farthest to the left is missing it’s top per se, but I think it was an attempt to give the illusion of distance from the viewer.

    Again, this is just my opinoin. I think what makes an analysis of a logo like this so difficult is the interpretations that the viewer has to make. Personally, I think it’s a GREAT logo (I know I probably should have warned you before saying that Minna).

    Oh and Paul, FYI…I think this has to be one of the BEST subjects you’re featured on here since I found this wonderful site; I’m much more interested in team logos than uniforms (which still go hand-in-hand much of the time). And kudos to everyone else for such meaningful discussion…it’s making my day FLY by.

  • Kerry | January 11, 2007 at 3:57 pm |

    Also, not really uni-related…but I still think it relative enough to post….

    In Washington, D.C., U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein will be introducing legislation later this month that would require the 49ers to get permission from San Francisco to retain their name if they moved to Santa Clara.

    If the Niners were to relocate, and Senator Feinstein’s bill passed, the cost of the move could be the team’s name and logo. In a speech before the Senate Judiciary Committee on November 14, Senator Feinstein said, “The 49er is the tradition of the city. San Francisco is the city of the Gold Rush. … You can’t move to Santa Clara and call yourself a 49er–you’re not. And you certainly can’t call yourself the San Francisco 49ers–you’re not.”

    CLICK HERE FOR THE FULL STORY

  • Matt | January 11, 2007 at 3:58 pm |

    I recommend to anyone reading this to watch the movie Idocracy. It’s not a great movie, but it represents what life WILL be like 500 years from now if we continue to let corporations plaster their image every where you look.

  • Kenny | January 11, 2007 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”40518″]I stumbled upon this page while looking for a clarification on the NBA rules. I saw three interesting links. The first is the NBA Dress Code link which has a photo gallery of NBA players with analysis by a GQ editor. It is funny that some of his suggestion on what players should wear off the Court do not always apply to the uniforms they wear on the Court.

    Further, the picture of Stern holding the new ball at a window overlooking a plaza clearly in Europe, maybe Italy or Spain, in a purple tie must make Paul cringe. I wonder why Stern had the new ball with him for photo ops on his vacation.

    Finally, the bulls logo on the banner behind Wallace appears to be an attempt to make a bull’s body out of Six NBA Championship trophies with the Bull head pasted on the front. It is really quite ugly. Is this something they use often? I have never seen it before. Any one have information?


    NBA Link[/quote]

    I live in Chicago and I’ve seen that a time or two…however, to say it makes up the body of the Bull is a long shot…look at their website it’s on the bottom

  • dchis | January 11, 2007 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”40569″][quote comment=”40553″]The Wild! logo, besides being a mess in general, has two small design flaws. The mouth is lined up incorrectly and the first tree on the left is missing its top.[/quote]
    OK, maybe I’m missing something…how is it lined up incorrectly? Just curious. Personally, I don’t see what you mean by that.

    Secondly, I think that the intention of the logo is for the trees to be in some kind of perspective. I don’t that the tree farthest to the left is missing it’s top per se, but I think it was an attempt to give the illusion of distance from the viewer.

    Again, this is just my opinoin. I think what makes an analysis of a logo like this so difficult is the interpretations that the viewer has to make. Personally, I think it’s a GREAT logo (I know I probably should have warned you before saying that Minna).

    Oh and Paul, FYI…I think this has to be one of the BEST subjects you’re featured on here since I found this wonderful site; I’m much more interested in team logos than uniforms (which still go hand-in-hand much of the time). And kudos to everyone else for such meaningful discussion…it’s making my day FLY by.[/quote]

    Yes this has been a great day for this site. The topic was incredible and combined with the JaMarcus Russell incident it’s been the most posts since December 21, 2006 which had 313 posts and number 218 (which is the last post on my browser for today) occured at 4:34 p.m. so we are ahead of the curve of the most posts in a day.

    Also, Kerry, I don’t agree with you thought the Wild (TM) logo is a good logo. I think it is to busy but that is my personal opinion. It honestly isn’t the worst logo around. ALso, I think the mouth is missaligned because the wolf/dog/wildcat/panther/whateverthingy??? has an underbite which I quite honestly haven’t seen on to many animals in the big wild cat area of animals. But, yes the trees are trying to give a feel of different distances and there I believe you are correct.

  • Jim | January 11, 2007 at 4:16 pm |

    In Paul’s link to the Montreal Beavers logo, you can see what appears to be a swoosh in his tail.

    Precognitive Logo Creep!!

  • tedkerwin | January 11, 2007 at 4:17 pm |

    I live in Chicago and I’ve seen that a time or two…however, to say it makes up the body of the Bull is a long shot…look at their website it’s on the bottom

    Without the Bull logo in front it makes more sense. The banner photo does make it confusing, especially since the red and black ribbons on the bottom of the trophy makes it look like they were tying in the logo face with the trophies. Plus the ball on top looks like onions.

  • Jeff B | January 11, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    Oh and Paul, FYI…I think this has to be one of the BEST subjects you’re featured on here since I found this wonderful site; I’m much more interested in team logos than uniforms (which still go hand-in-hand much of the time). And kudos to everyone else for such meaningful discussion…it’s making my day FLY by.

    I can’t say that this is one of the best, but it is definately interesting. Today’s post is very trivial, but that makes it interesting and accessable. I think that the historic posts are definately much more significant when looking at the whole picture of uniformity. The how and why is just as important as the what.

    And as for the Bulls logo with the championship trophies, it is only that. As a Chicago native I’ve seen it many times and it’s just a chance to show off Mike’s 6.

  • Joe Hilseberg | January 11, 2007 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”40573″]Also, not really uni-related…but I still think it relative enough to post….

    In Washington, D.C., U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein will be introducing legislation later this month that would require the 49ers to get permission from San Francisco to retain their name if they moved to Santa Clara.

    If the Niners were to relocate, and Senator Feinstein’s bill passed, the cost of the move could be the team’s name and logo. In a speech before the Senate Judiciary Committee on November 14, Senator Feinstein said, “The 49er is the tradition of the city. San Francisco is the city of the Gold Rush. … You can’t move to Santa Clara and call yourself a 49er–you’re not. And you certainly can’t call yourself the San Francisco 49ers–you’re not.”

    CLICK HERE FOR THE FULL STORY[/quote]

    I hope it passes! I’ve always thought that the city should keep the name, logo and records. How many yards has Johnny U passed for in the city of Indianapolis? Yep.. 0. However, he is the city’s leading passer according to their media guide?

    No Lakes in LA, can a Cardinal survive in Arizona, and the Jazz in Utah?? They don’t even allow music!

  • todd krevanchi | January 11, 2007 at 4:20 pm |

    well, pettitte had a jersey and hat on at his yankee intro, however there hasnt been a shot of the back to see what number he has…

  • Anthony Verna | January 11, 2007 at 4:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”40582″]In Paul’s link to the Montreal Beavers logo, you can see what appears to be a swoosh in his tail.

    Precognitive Logo Creep!![/quote]

    Someone’s reading too much Philip K Dick.

    http://www.philipkdi...
    http://en.wikipedia....

  • GoTerriers | January 11, 2007 at 4:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”40587″]well, pettitte had a jersey and hat on at his yankee intro, however there hasnt been a shot of the back to see what number he has…[/quote]

    The Yankees non-tendered Aaron Guiel, so I’m betting he’s wearing #46 . . .

  • Richard | January 11, 2007 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”40590″][quote comment=”40587″]well, pettitte had a jersey and hat on at his yankee intro, however there hasnt been a shot of the back to see what number he has…[/quote]

    The Yankees non-tendered Aaron Guiel, so I’m betting he’s wearing #46 . . .[/quote]

    if you go to the mlb site, you can watch the conference and at the 3:40 mark, they give him the jersey and you can see the number.

  • WVU Tom | January 11, 2007 at 4:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”40586″][quote comment=”40573″]Also, not really uni-related…but I still think it relative enough to post….

    In Washington, D.C., U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein will be introducing legislation later this month that would require the 49ers to get permission from San Francisco to retain their name if they moved to Santa Clara.

    If the Niners were to relocate, and Senator Feinstein’s bill passed, the cost of the move could be the team’s name and logo. In a speech before the Senate Judiciary Committee on November 14, Senator Feinstein said, “The 49er is the tradition of the city. San Francisco is the city of the Gold Rush. … You can’t move to Santa Clara and call yourself a 49er–you’re not. And you certainly can’t call yourself the San Francisco 49ers–you’re not.”

    CLICK HERE FOR THE FULL STORY[/quote]

    I hope it passes! I’ve always thought that the city should keep the name, logo and records. How many yards has Johnny U passed for in the city of Indianapolis? Yep.. 0. However, he is the city’s leading passer according to their media guide?

    No Lakes in LA, can a Cardinal survive in Arizona, and the Jazz in Utah?? They don’t even allow music![/quote]

    I believe the whole “team name, colors, logo, history, etc. belong to the city and not the franchise” deal started when the Ravens moved to Baltimore. Other teams have moved in the past and changed their names in the process, but I don’t think they *had* to.

    I imagine a lot of cities (including Baltimore) wish they had thought of that when their teams were re-located, it really should be standard practice.

    Of course, Santa Clara ins’t that far from San Francisco, and it’s at least in the same state. I don’t thnk calling a team that plays in Santa Clara the “San Francisco 49ers” is nearly as bad as refering the two football teams that play in New Jersey as “The New York …”

  • Kerry | January 11, 2007 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”40579″]Yes this has been a great day for this site. The topic was incredible and combined with the JaMarcus Russell incident it’s been the most posts since December 21, 2006 which had 313 posts and number 218 (which is the last post on my browser for today) occured at 4:34 p.m. so we are ahead of the curve of the most posts in a day.

    Also, Kerry, I don’t agree with you thought the Wild (TM) logo is a good logo. I think it is to busy but that is my personal opinion. It honestly isn’t the worst logo around. ALso, I think the mouth is missaligned because the wolf/dog/wildcat/panther/whateverthingy??? has an underbite which I quite honestly haven’t seen on to many animals in the big wild cat area of animals. But, yes the trees are trying to give a feel of different distances and there I believe you are correct.[/quote]
    That’s cool, we don’t all have to all agree on which logos and unis we like…boy would the world (and this board) be a boring place if that were indeed the case!

    As for the mouth…I see what you and Minna mean, but in this case, I can live with the “inaccuracies” of the logo for the sake of better aesthetics (I know you both think there is NOTHING aesthetically pleasing about the logo).

  • Anthony Verna | January 11, 2007 at 4:53 pm |

    Does anyone else remember Howard Cosell predicting that “The New Jersey Giants” would win the Super Bowl on TV?

  • Kerry | January 11, 2007 at 5:03 pm |

    Since there is all of this talk about flaws in team logos…how about the NASHVILLE KATS of the Arena Football League using the CORRECT BALL in their logo since rejoining the league as an expansion team in 2005. It’s nice to see the slight tweak made to their OLD LOGO. Just for clarification, the ball was correct on the old logo too; the league didn’t change to ball until AFTER the original Nashville Kats franchise folded.

  • Seattle Zach | January 11, 2007 at 5:07 pm |

    Don’t know if it’s been mentioned already or not, but it looks like the Seattle Mariners will be wearing this 30th Anniversary jersey patch this season:
    jersey patch

  • Anthony Verna | January 11, 2007 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”40600″]Don’t know if it’s been mentioned already or not, but it looks like the Seattle Mariners will be wearing this 30th Anniversary jersey patch this season:
    jersey patch[/quote]

    I was BORN the same year as the Mariners?

    *gulp*

  • Andy from KC | January 11, 2007 at 5:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”40523″]Last, I think we all know that Paul isn’t fond of the color purple. But am I the only one that finds it quite annoying every time someone points out that something somebody wore was purple, or posts a link to something purple and makes a bad joke about how Paul must hate it?[/quote]

    No, you’re not the only one. To me, that’s #2 behind the constant “hey, it’s Phil Knight” or “Beaverton checks in” comments that are fired at any of us who — gasp! — don’t hate Nike.

  • Bill T. | January 11, 2007 at 5:17 pm |

    The Detroit Tigers logo seems flawed in that the tiger would have to be really thin in the midsection to fit between the bars on the Old English D. Pic.

  • Minna H. | January 11, 2007 at 5:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”40569″][quote comment=”40553″]The Wild! logo, besides being a mess in general, has two small design flaws. The mouth is lined up incorrectly and the first tree on the left is missing its top.[/quote]
    OK, maybe I’m missing something…how is it lined up incorrectly? Just curious. Personally, I don’t see what you mean by that.

    Secondly, I think that the intention of the logo is for the trees to be in some kind of perspective. I don’t that the tree farthest to the left is missing it’s top per se, but I think it was an attempt to give the illusion of distance from the viewer.

    Again, this is just my opinoin. I think what makes an analysis of a logo like this so difficult is the interpretations that the viewer has to make. Personally, I think it’s a GREAT logo (I know I probably should have warned you before saying that Minna).

    [/quote]

    Kerry, I knew I didn’t explain this very well. What dchis said about the underbite is what I meant for the mouth. As for the trees, I understand the perspective thing, but all the other trees have two branches on either side even as they grow in size from left to right. The one on the far left should have two, or the ones on the right should have a few more.

    Zurk, my problem is that I can tell you what I think is wrong with a logo, but that doesnot necessarily mean I know how to fix it. Except for the Wild! I’d scrap it and start all over again. I like the unis, but not the logo. Kerry and I will amicably disagree on that point (the logo).

  • Florian | January 11, 2007 at 5:20 pm |

    But why is he wearing Nike if everything else is Adidas?

    That question reminds me of a thing that was pretty big in Germany after the World Cup. After 50 years of the national players being forced to wear Adidas when playing for Germany, the players finally threatened to walk out if they weren’t aloud a free choice of shoes and got their way. So after 50 years German national soccer players are finally free to wear the shoes they want when playing for their country.

  • GoTerriers | January 11, 2007 at 5:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”40602″][quote comment=”40600″]Don’t know if it’s been mentioned already or not, but it looks like the Seattle Mariners will be wearing this 30th Anniversary jersey patch this season:
    jersey patch[/quote]

    I was BORN the same year as the Mariners?

    *gulp*[/quote]

    And the Toronto Blue Jays . . .sorry, the Toronto Jays (since they’ve distanced themselves from the color blue)

  • GoTerriers | January 11, 2007 at 5:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”40606″]But why is he wearing Nike if everything else is Adidas?

    That question reminds me of a thing that was pretty big in Germany after the World Cup. After 50 years of the national players being forced to wear Adidas when playing for Germany, the players finally threatened to walk out if they weren’t aloud a free choice of shoes and got their way. So after 50 years German national soccer players are finally free to wear the shoes they want when playing for their country.[/quote]

    “Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, I’m Free at last”

  • DJ | January 11, 2007 at 5:37 pm |

    So after 50 years German national soccer players are finally free to wear the shoes they want when playing for their country.

    IIRC, the French soccer federation requires their players to wear Adidas cleats (along with the Adidas uniforms) when playing for the national team.

  • maximumK | January 11, 2007 at 5:38 pm |

    Nice coverage by the PTI guys on Jamarcus Russel’s pin-gate.

  • S Bennett | January 11, 2007 at 5:39 pm |

    Wilbon and Kornheiser just talked about the Russell lapel pin on PTI When asked, Russell basically said, he’s courting them by promoting the swoosh before signing anything.

    Outch. How pathetic is that; whoring yourself out to a multinational? Why not get on your back and open your legs, for crying out loud?

  • Bill T. | January 11, 2007 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”40366″]Ok, I know most of us prefer this Brewers (TM) logo to this one, but look at the ball in the glove. Interesting?[/quote]

    I’m not sure if it was mentioned, but the glove logo is flawed in that it only has four fingers – out of necessity of course to create the “m”.

    Also the angle of the ball, where the seams form an “S”, was used before by the Phillies.

  • Matthew S. | January 11, 2007 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”40603″][quote comment=”40523″]Last, I think we all know that Paul isn’t fond of the color purple. But am I the only one that finds it quite annoying every time someone points out that something somebody wore was purple, or posts a link to something purple and makes a bad joke about how Paul must hate it?[/quote]

    No, you’re not the only one. To me, that’s #2 behind the constant “hey, it’s Phil Knight” or “Beaverton checks in” comments that are fired at any of us who — gasp! — don’t hate Nike.[/quote]

    I’m not sure how many people here actually ‘hate’ Nike. Nike makes great (if somewhat overpriced) shoes and apparel. I especially like what they did with the U.S. Soccer Team’s World Cup uniforms this past year; classically influenced and clean, simple, even elegant design: http://i.cnn.net/si/...

    I think the majority of people here cite Nike for gratuitously plastering their logo on anything that moves. Reebok does the same thing. And you could argue that Adidas does this by putting their ‘three stripe’ design on everything, but I actually like that Adidas does that. Does that mean I’m talking out of both sides out of my mouth? Maybe. I am, in the end, just another fickle consumer.

    But I think one of the broader themes of this blog is misinterpreted. The majority of people here don’t hate Nike, Reebok, Adidas, Puma, UnderArmor, or any other manufacturer, rather they loathe some of their branding practices.

    Anyway, that’s my two cents. If a majority of people here actually do hate Nike, etc. feel free to say I’m wrong.

  • Jeff B | January 11, 2007 at 5:41 pm |

    “Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, I’m Free at last”

    Timely considering Monday. Although I don’t think you can compare shoes to civil rights, but thats alright. Did MLK ever play sports? That would be a nice article.

  • GoTerriers | January 11, 2007 at 5:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”40615″]“Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, I’m Free at last”

    Timely considering Monday. Although I don’t think you can compare shoes to civil rights, but thats alright. Did MLK ever play sports? That would be a nice article.[/quote]

    Thanks for getting the reference . . .it was intentional. You’re right, though, about there being no comparison of shoes and Civil Rights, I didn’t mean to imply there is one. Maybe I’ll poke around the ol’ web tonight and see what I can find out about the Dr. King’s athletic background

  • Adam | January 11, 2007 at 5:47 pm |

    So I decided to get the all-red Cincinnati hat. My brother got the red Nationals hat and a Dodgers hat.

  • S Bennett | January 11, 2007 at 5:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”40609″]So after 50 years German national soccer players are finally free to wear the shoes they want when playing for their country.

    IIRC, the French soccer federation requires their players to wear Adidas cleats (along with the Adidas uniforms) when playing for the national team.[/quote]

    That’ could very well be true for many players, but guys with significant boot deals appear to be exempt

  • Andy from KC | January 11, 2007 at 5:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”40614″][quote comment=”40603″][quote comment=”40523″]Last, I think we all know that Paul isn’t fond of the color purple. But am I the only one that finds it quite annoying every time someone points out that something somebody wore was purple, or posts a link to something purple and makes a bad joke about how Paul must hate it?[/quote]

    Your point is well taken, and, I’m sure, is representative of many who read this. But when Nike’s logo is referred to as a “swooshtika,” and the company themselves is referred to as the “One True Satan” (you only need to scroll up to read that), to me that constitutes not just hatred, but disproportionately extreme hatred.

    No, you’re not the only one. To me, that’s #2 behind the constant “hey, it’s Phil Knight” or “Beaverton checks in” comments that are fired at any of us who — gasp! — don’t hate Nike.[/quote]

    I’m not sure how many people here actually ‘hate’ Nike. Nike makes great (if somewhat overpriced) shoes and apparel. I especially like what they did with the U.S. Soccer Team’s World Cup uniforms this past year; classically influenced and clean, simple, even elegant design: http://i.cnn.net/si/...

    I think the majority of people here cite Nike for gratuitously plastering their logo on anything that moves. Reebok does the same thing. And you could argue that Adidas does this by putting their ‘three stripe’ design on everything, but I actually like that Adidas does that. Does that mean I’m talking out of both sides out of my mouth? Maybe. I am, in the end, just another fickle consumer.

    But I think one of the broader themes of this blog is misinterpreted. The majority of people here don’t hate Nike, Reebok, Adidas, Puma, UnderArmor, or any other manufacturer, rather they loathe some of their branding practices.

    Anyway, that’s my two cents. If a majority of people here actually do hate Nike, etc. feel free to say I’m wrong.[/quote]

  • Andy from KC | January 11, 2007 at 5:52 pm |

    Oh for crying out loud, I can’t believe I did that. Here’s the post I was trying to reply to:

    [quote comment=”40614″][quote comment=”40603″][quote comment=”40523″]Last, I think we all know that Paul isn’t fond of the color purple. But am I the only one that finds it quite annoying every time someone points out that something somebody wore was purple, or posts a link to something purple and makes a bad joke about how Paul must hate it?[/quote]

    No, you’re not the only one. To me, that’s #2 behind the constant “hey, it’s Phil Knight” or “Beaverton checks in” comments that are fired at any of us who — gasp! — don’t hate Nike.[/quote]

    I’m not sure how many people here actually ‘hate’ Nike. Nike makes great (if somewhat overpriced) shoes and apparel. I especially like what they did with the U.S. Soccer Team’s World Cup uniforms this past year; classically influenced and clean, simple, even elegant design: http://i.cnn.net/si/...

    I think the majority of people here cite Nike for gratuitously plastering their logo on anything that moves. Reebok does the same thing. And you could argue that Adidas does this by putting their ‘three stripe’ design on everything, but I actually like that Adidas does that. Does that mean I’m talking out of both sides out of my mouth? Maybe. I am, in the end, just another fickle consumer.

    But I think one of the broader themes of this blog is misinterpreted. The majority of people here don’t hate Nike, Reebok, Adidas, Puma, UnderArmor, or any other manufacturer, rather they loathe some of their branding practices.

    Anyway, that’s my two cents. If a majority of people here actually do hate Nike, etc. feel free to say I’m wrong.[/quote]

    And this was my response:

    Your point is well taken, and, I’m sure, is representative of many who read this. But when Nike’s logo is referred to as a “swooshtika,” and the company themselves is referred to as the “One True Satan” (you only need to scroll up to read that), to me that constitutes not just hatred, but disproportionately extreme hatred.

    No, you’re not the only one. To me, that’s #2 behind the constant “hey, it’s Phil Knight” or “Beaverton checks in” comments that are fired at any of us who — gasp! — don’t hate Nike.

  • Jeff B | January 11, 2007 at 5:52 pm |

    Maybe I’ll poke around the ol’ web tonight and see what I can find out about the Dr. King’s athletic background

    I’ll check it too. I imagine he did at some point but theres probably sketchy visuals

  • Andy from KC | January 11, 2007 at 5:58 pm |

    Sigh, post #251 didn’t work either … aw, close enough. It’s probably a pointless can of worms to open, but I feel better having gotten it off my chest.

  • James | January 11, 2007 at 6:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”40614″]

    But I think one of the broader themes of this blog is misinterpreted. The majority of people here don’t hate Nike, Reebok, Adidas, Puma, UnderArmor, or any other manufacturer, rather they loathe some of their branding practices.

    Anyway, that’s my two cents. If a majority of people here actually do hate Nike, etc. feel free to say I’m wrong.[/quote]
    What bothers me about ANY brand is that regardless of quality, value, or price, people automatically gravitate toward the thought that these brands are the best. While they may be good, the only thing we can be sure of is that they have huge marketing campaigns. People do not even think before they buy these brands anymore. Is there any inherent difference between Reebok or Nike or Adidas? Don’t some NCAA football teams just put their new suppliers logos over the old ones? They are basically interchangeable when it boils down to product. We pay the ridiculous amounts of money they charge because we are buying into a lifestyle. The cost or producing the good is miniscule compared to how much people pay.

    That is just my two cents and my attempt to verbalize my opinion of brands. I apologize if it is inappropriate.

  • JimmyMac | January 11, 2007 at 6:06 pm |

    Like Cindy Crawford’s or Marilyn Monroe’s beauty marks, their imperfections are what make them even more perfect.

    Kudos to the Charlotte Hornets desinger for not making the ball symetric…hell this artwork was done by hand not in Adobe Illustrator which makes it all the better.

    Creamer forum critiques are typically pointless rants so I personally prefer not to value anything anyone says on that site.

  • Anthony Verna | January 11, 2007 at 6:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”40624″]What bothers me about ANY brand is that regardless of quality, value, or price, people automatically gravitate toward the thought that these brands are the best. While they may be good, the only thing we can be sure of is that they have huge marketing campaigns. [/quote]

    Maybe it’s the trademark lawyer in me coming out, but isn’t that the point? We do see a brand and think of a quality in the goods. The swoosh, to us, means a certain quality of goods. And adidas is the first name in soccer equipment, no?

    We do associate quality to brands. If their products were junk, would they be able to launch marketing campaigns?

    (I mean, it doesn’t excuse JaMarcus Russell for the press conference pin – but that’s the point – to be loyal to a brand – though not in the extreme.)

  • Matthew S. | January 11, 2007 at 6:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”40621″]Oh for crying out loud, I can’t believe I did that. Here’s the post I was trying to reply to:

    [quote comment=”40614″][quote comment=”40603″][quote comment=”40523″]Last, I think we all know that Paul isn’t fond of the color purple. But am I the only one that finds it quite annoying every time someone points out that something somebody wore was purple, or posts a link to something purple and makes a bad joke about how Paul must hate it?[/quote]

    No, you’re not the only one. To me, that’s #2 behind the constant “hey, it’s Phil Knight” or “Beaverton checks in” comments that are fired at any of us who — gasp! — don’t hate Nike.[/quote]

    I’m not sure how many people here actually ‘hate’ Nike. Nike makes great (if somewhat overpriced) shoes and apparel. I especially like what they did with the U.S. Soccer Team’s World Cup uniforms this past year; classically influenced and clean, simple, even elegant design: http://i.cnn.net/si/...

    I think the majority of people here cite Nike for gratuitously plastering their logo on anything that moves. Reebok does the same thing. And you could argue that Adidas does this by putting their ‘three stripe’ design on everything, but I actually like that Adidas does that. Does that mean I’m talking out of both sides out of my mouth? Maybe. I am, in the end, just another fickle consumer.

    But I think one of the broader themes of this blog is misinterpreted. The majority of people here don’t hate Nike, Reebok, Adidas, Puma, UnderArmor, or any other manufacturer, rather they loathe some of their branding practices.

    Anyway, that’s my two cents. If a majority of people here actually do hate Nike, etc. feel free to say I’m wrong.[/quote]

    And this was my response:

    Your point is well taken, and, I’m sure, is representative of many who read this. But when Nike’s logo is referred to as a “swooshtika,” and the company themselves is referred to as the “One True Satan” (you only need to scroll up to read that), to me that constitutes not just hatred, but disproportionately extreme hatred.

    No, you’re not the only one. To me, that’s #2 behind the constant “hey, it’s Phil Knight” or “Beaverton checks in” comments that are fired at any of us who — gasp! — don’t hate Nike.[/quote]

    That’s a great point Andy. I guess I never really looked at ‘swooshtika’ in that sense. Upon thinking about it, I agree with your assertion that comparing a Nike swoosh to a symbol of the Nazi (and satan for that matter) smacks of extreme and irrational hatred.

    It seems the larger and more successful a multinational corporation becomes, the more powerfully divisive feelings it evokes. I give you Walmart, Exxon-Mobile, and of course Nike as primary examples. So this sort of irrational emotion should be expected (though not excused).

  • James | January 11, 2007 at 6:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”40626″][quote comment=”40624″]What bothers me about ANY brand is that regardless of quality, value, or price, people automatically gravitate toward the thought that these brands are the best. While they may be good, the only thing we can be sure of is that they have huge marketing campaigns. [/quote]

    Maybe it’s the trademark lawyer in me coming out, but isn’t that the point? We do see a brand and think of a quality in the goods. The swoosh, to us, means a certain quality of goods. And adidas is the first name in soccer equipment, no?

    We do associate quality to brands. If their products were junk, would they be able to launch marketing campaigns?

    (I mean, it doesn’t excuse JaMarcus Russell for the press conference pin – but that’s the point – to be loyal to a brand – though not in the extreme.)[/quote]

    Yeah, that’s what I am saying, Anthony. The brands are taking away people’s ability to decide for themselves what is best. Sure, it is great for these multinationals, but it makes us slaves to the brand. I’m not trying to come off like a liberal nut job, but I think people have a right to decide for themselves what is best for them in the absence of brainwashing and propaganda.

  • Nuk | January 11, 2007 at 6:22 pm |

    What’s interesting is that apparently there were logo geeks in the past. That is why the Vancouver Canucks changed their original logo in 70-71 to a logo that was actually proportional to an NHL rink in 72-73.

    The difference is subtle – but noticable.

  • mg12 | January 11, 2007 at 6:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”40395″][quote comment=”40389″][quote comment=”40346″] If that is the case, here is the question: Do you center it and correct an obvious error, or do you leave it as it was?[/quote]

    Honestly, if Paul had not told you about this, would you have noticed? Is it really “an obvious error”? I am a huge Leafs fan, and have probably seen 90% of the games played where they wear the alternates and I have never noticed it.

    [quote comment=”40350″]The new Buffalo Sabres logo has that type of flaw that bugs me. The horn on the far side of the head looks like it is part of the face because of the color. If you check the old logo, they recognized that and made it look different from the face/head.[/quote]

    The Buffalo Sabres new logo has a type of flaw that bugs me, my eyes hurt whenever I look at it.

    Two other things. You can buy some of the NHL practice jerseys. Just only in the team’s primary and secondary colours.

    David Beckham signed with the Los Angeles Galaxy today. I have never seen that type of font used on the back of a jersey. I believe that is with Real Madrid[/quote]

    Yup, those are the backs of the Real kits. You can see some of the lettering on this photo from the store.[/quote]

    That font is Peignot. I use it all the time.

    http://www.linotype....

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | January 11, 2007 at 6:38 pm |

    if any of you have read books about nike, you will know that it is not just a company, it is a culture and an attitude.

    i could go on about the things that happen there and the belief system there. heck you get bonuses if you walk, bike or run to work rather than drive, as well as another bonus if you use your lunch for physical activity as well.

    for those who know that philosophy, it could be their way of saying “that is me. i believe in the nike attitude. i am a nike athlete”. i would liken it to football players who you KNOW have the raider attitude. (well maybe not the recent raider attitude).

  • julie | January 11, 2007 at 6:47 pm |

    I won’t go so far as to say that they ‘have offices’ there, but it’s not exactly outlandish that David Stern would be pictured there, particularly when you consider all of the preseason games that took place in France and Spain in October. http://www.insidehoo...

    Stern, at the time, was trying to push the merits of the new ball. So given that several preseason games took place in Europe in the preseason, and Commissioner Stern was trying to sell the new ball, it’s not exactly out of the question that he would be in Europe at the time.

    And while I’ve never been to New York, I will say that picture does look like it was taken in an Italian city (not many U.S. cities have public plazas with loads of statuary as that picture does). And that conclusion is partially supported by the fact that NBA execs were in Europe during the preseason as can be seen here: http://www.nba.com/e...

    I realize that this is largely circumstantial evidence, but it’s just something to think about.[/quote]

    Point taken, just arguing the validity of “clearly” being used. I’ve been to NY before and don’t remember seeing this exact plaza but I have been to places like it outside of Manhattan. I’m not saying it’s definitley NY but I’m not saying it’s definitley Europe. But like I said, the architecture does definitley have early Europena influences, and I completely forgot about the NBA Europe thing this preseason (which had some great uniforms by the way, the sixers and spurs being the best of the 4[?] teams that went over. I can only remember the Sixers, Spurs, Suns and Clippers).[/quote]

    stern is posing with the new ball in a window that overlooks the campidoglio in rome. definitely. he’s in a city government building.

  • julie | January 11, 2007 at 6:50 pm |

    sorry. i deleted the italics/quote marks in that last post. i just added the campidoglio comments.

  • S Bennett | January 11, 2007 at 6:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”40631″][quote comment=”40626″][quote comment=”40624″]What bothers me about ANY brand is that regardless of quality, value, or price, people automatically gravitate toward the thought that these brands are the best. While they may be good, the only thing we can be sure of is that they have huge marketing campaigns. [/quote]

    That’s teh whole point of branding. It popped up a bit after the industrial revolution because companies made products that were otherwise indistinguishable. TV vs. TV, car vs. car, toaster vs toaster. Not really much of a diffrence.[/quote]

    Look at the top brands of 2006 and you’ll see that, for the average consumer, most of them represent a product that is essentially no different than what their competetors make. in a tight market like that, you have to find a way to be more cool – “conceptual value added” – than your competetors.

  • Thorold Blair | January 11, 2007 at 7:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”40613″][quote comment=”40366″]Ok, I know most of us prefer this Brewers (TM) logo to this one, but look at the ball in the glove. Interesting?[/quote]

    I’m not sure if it was mentioned, but the glove logo is flawed in that it only has four fingers – out of necessity of course to create the “m”.[/quote]

    They have 3 fingered gloves though.. where both the pinky and ring finger go in the same ‘hole’. I just dont know how readily used they are in the big leagues

  • ToasterPoodle | January 11, 2007 at 7:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”40612″]Wilbon and Kornheiser just talked about the Russell lapel pin on PTI When asked, Russell basically said, he’s courting them by promoting the swoosh before signing anything.

    Outch. How pathetic is that; whoring yourself out to a multinational? Why not get on your back and open your legs, for crying out loud?[/quote]
    Did you call it “Whoring yourself out” when you sent out a resume? Or were you just letting the potential employer know you were interested in working for them.
    I’m no fan of Nike, but Russell is just trying to get a job for the company of his choice.

  • Brian from Short Island | January 11, 2007 at 7:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”40310″]Check out the new Manitoba Moose sweaters (NOT jerseys, NEVER jerseys) The were honouring the Canadian National Team. I LOVE THEM. I would hope they wear them again. link[/quote]
    I refuse to call the Flo-knits “sweaters,” as it’s just plain inaccurate. They’re jerseys.

  • Brian Crisp | January 11, 2007 at 7:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”40648″][quote comment=”40612″]Wilbon and Kornheiser just talked about the Russell lapel pin on PTI When asked, Russell basically said, he’s courting them by promoting the swoosh before signing anything.

    Outch. How pathetic is that; whoring yourself out to a multinational? Why not get on your back and open your legs, for crying out loud?[/quote]
    Did you call it “Whoring yourself out” when you sent out a resume? Or were you just letting the potential employer know you were interested in working for them.
    I’m no fan of Nike, but Russell is just trying to get a job for the company of his choice.[/quote]
    When I applied for my job at NASA, I did not wear a spacesuit to my interview. Pretty sure it would not have helped.
    Do you think Nike cares if he is wearing a pin? No, they care if he will sell their products. He’ll sell products by being a successful NFL player.

  • Brian Crisp | January 11, 2007 at 7:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”40645″][quote comment=”40613″][quote comment=”40366″]Ok, I know most of us prefer this Brewers (TM) logo to this one, but look at the ball in the glove. Interesting?[/quote]

    I’m not sure if it was mentioned, but the glove logo is flawed in that it only has four fingers – out of necessity of course to create the “m”.[/quote]

    They have 3 fingered gloves though.. where both the pinky and ring finger go in the same ‘hole’. I just dont know how readily used they are in the big leagues[/quote]
    I don’t count this logo as a flaw, more of artistic license. Kind of like the Simpsons characters having four fingers. The artist was trying to make a ‘M’ look like a glove, allow him some room. Some of the other logos presented above, like Twins baseball, reflect a lazy/ sloppy artist who did not look at a real baseball.

  • ToasterPoodle | January 11, 2007 at 7:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”40552″][quote comment=”40546″]Has anyone thought that Russell may have signed with Nike as his first act in turning pro?[/quote]

    So what? Then let him just wear a “Property of Nike” T-shirt to the press conference, instead of a nice suit, if that’s what it boils down to.

    My objection to this is that Nike — and, yes, other companies — basically see any surface of anything as a place to advertise. That is offensive and, I’d argue, civically and culturally unhealthy.[/quote]
    I agree that nike, in particular, offends good form by slapping a logo on anything that holds still long enough.
    But in this case Paul, Russell wore the logo of HIS choice, not Nike’s. So in this case I think nike is innocent of being a “logo creep”.

  • Scott W | January 11, 2007 at 7:40 pm |

    Speaking of the Sharks logo, there’s a poll on the Sharks website:

    Which Sharks jersey do you like best?

    Black
    Teal
    White

    (FYI, Black (42%), Teal (44%), White (13%))

    And I voted white. But either way, all three jerseys have the taped-on-one-side-only stick in the mouth.

  • Brian from Short Island | January 11, 2007 at 7:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”40395″][quote comment=”40389″][quote comment=”40346″] If that is the case, here is the question: Do you center it and correct an obvious error, or do you leave it as it was?[/quote]

    Honestly, if Paul had not told you about this, would you have noticed? Is it really “an obvious error”? I am a huge Leafs fan, and have probably seen 90% of the games played where they wear the alternates and I have never noticed it.

    [quote comment=”40350″]The new Buffalo Sabres logo has that type of flaw that bugs me. The horn on the far side of the head looks like it is part of the face because of the color. If you check the old logo, they recognized that and made it look different from the face/head.[/quote]

    The Buffalo Sabres new logo has a type of flaw that bugs me, my eyes hurt whenever I look at it.

    Two other things. You can buy some of the NHL practice jerseys. Just only in the team’s primary and secondary colours.

    David Beckham signed with the Los Angeles Galaxy today. I have never seen that type of font used on the back of a jersey. I believe that is with Real Madrid[/quote]

    Yup, those are the backs of the Real kits. You can see some of the lettering on this photo from the store.[/quote]
    No, no, no!
    Those are last year’s Real Kits. Unlike the English Premiership where the same numbers are used every year (they’re actually changing next year, as the Premiership doesn’t have rights to those letters past this year), Spanish teams tend to change lettering with each year…

    Here are this year’s shirtbacks… Yes, that’s Jose Antonio Reyes (not Jose Bernabe Reyes). There’s also a David Wright in England, a defender for Wigan Athletic.

  • Brian from Short Island | January 11, 2007 at 7:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”40650″][quote comment=”40310″]Check out the new Manitoba Moose sweaters (NOT jerseys, NEVER jerseys) The were honouring the Canadian National Team. I LOVE THEM. I would hope they wear them again. link[/quote]
    I refuse to call the Flo-knits “sweaters,” as it’s just plain inaccurate. They’re jerseys.[/quote]
    P.S. How does it feel to lose your NHL team and have it replaced by the Canucks’ AHL Squad?

  • James | January 11, 2007 at 7:45 pm |

    Here a few:

    Thrashers have the same stick tape issue.

    Islanders have the “I” bleed into island background and the name is assymetric.

    Flames’ “C” has a different inner curve for the lower and upper parts.

    Lighting: What’s up with 2 fonts? Plus the “T” in lightning doesn’t have the black border of the other letters.

    Capitals: only 3 claws on the eagle.

  • Brian from Short Island | January 11, 2007 at 7:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”40663″]Here a few:

    Thrashers have the same stick tape issue.

    Islanders have the “I” bleed into island background and the name is assymetric.

    Flames’ “C” has a different inner curve for the lower and upper parts.

    Lighting: What’s up with 2 fonts? Plus the “T” in lightning doesn’t have the black border of the other letters.

    Capitals: only 3 claws on the eagle.[/quote]
    I’ve always noticed that about the Islanders logo, but never seen it as a flaw. They have to get that long team name and the puck in on that small logo

  • julie | January 11, 2007 at 7:52 pm |

    why pay for the cow when the milk is free?

    in other words, if jamarcus russell wants to wear the nike swoosh for kicks, why would nike bother to pay him for endoresments?

  • BCrisp | January 11, 2007 at 7:55 pm |

    While looking at the Capitals logo from James’ post. I noticed something. If they are going to use a building in their logo it should be Capitols.
    Capitals

  • S Bennett | January 11, 2007 at 8:05 pm |

    Did you call it “Whoring yourself out” when you sent out a resume?

    No, my resumes went out in response to the fact that employers sought employees. And I never sent a resume to an employer on that employer’s letterhead, nor did I go to an interview wearing that employer’s lapel pin.

    And what about Adidas or Reebok? Would you go to an interview with that employer’s competition on your lapel? He’s just thrown away his leverage.

  • Brian from Short Island | January 11, 2007 at 8:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”40445″][quote comment=”40434″][quote comment=”40431″]
    That’s awsome. That’s good use of the “A” for the assistant captain.[/quote]

    Ironically, they don’t use the Calgary “C” for the captain, though. Iginla, who is the captain this year, wears a normal block font “C”. Robyn Regehr, who is an alternate, wears the Atlanta “A”.[/quote]

    I know in the late 90’s when Theo Fleury was still with the Flames and they introduced the Atlanta ‘A’ as the alternate patch, they also used a smaller Calgary ‘C’ for the captain. This has since been switched back to a standard ‘C’.I’ll try and find a pisture of it…[/quote]
    Barry Larkin wore a Reds-logo-style wishbone C when he was Captain of the Reds..

    w/r/t the question above asking whether Beckham would have a greater impact on American soccer than Pelé, I think he will, but not on his own. In the NASL, Pelé, Beckenbauer and Chingalia made NY Cosmos an incredibly competitive squad on the international stage (and in the NY Post’s Page Six, I’d imagine), their overspending led to leaguewide overspending (they tried, they couldn’t) which led to the demise of the NASL.

    As with Beckham, MLS has been careful to limit the number of “marquee players” to one per team, with no team allowed to trade for more than one extra marquee player slot. My hope is that Beckham will give the leauge a bit of credibility, which has already been seen with today’s link of Tottenham (yes, my EPL boys!) midfielder Edgar Davids to FC Dallas. Ronaldo was linked to Red Bull a while ago, but that won’t happen for a year at least, and I personally hope it doesn’t as he’s too injury prone and also frequently out of shape. But there are MLS links on my Tottenham newsfeed! I could have never imagined that. Once some stars settle in, hungry young South Americans and Africans will want to play amongst their heroes and we can serve hopefully as a breeding ground for some incredible players. As revenues rise, maybe we can keep some of these types, and ultimately MLS could join Spain, France, England, Italy and Germany as the superleagues of the world. That’s the ultimate goal, and even as a Red Bull supporter, I see the Beckham signing as a good thing. Now if only I could get some of my non-soccer-supporting fans to come out to some Red Bull games against teams not called Galaxy or Barcelona… :/

    The other big issue is breeding top American players, and one can only hope that recent initiatives to reach out to the poorer communities whose players can’t afford travel soccer and the plans for teams other than Red Bull to have youth academy programs will aid the American game. In my eyes, these are exciting times to support MLS.

  • Bill T. | January 11, 2007 at 8:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”40653]I don’t count this logo as a flaw, more of artistic license. Kind of like the Simpsons characters having four fingers. The artist was trying to make a ‘M’ look like a glove, allow him some room. Some of the other logos presented above, like Twins baseball, reflect a lazy/ sloppy artist who did not look at a real baseball.[/quote]

    Duly noted. Artistic license flawed rendering.

  • Bill T. | January 11, 2007 at 8:15 pm |

    I’ll try this again.

    Artistic license is not the same as flawed rendering.

    Tip: Don’t use the less than-greater than symbols to mean “not equal”.

  • James | January 11, 2007 at 8:16 pm |

    On the Islanders logo, I don’t mind so much that the “I” bleeds as much as the assymetry of the name since there is room for a little shifting. Maybe just having the tip of the I bleed into the island would look weird. Still, the whole logo is a bit too busy for me. They could have at least moved the “Islanders” down a little bit in order to match the width of the blue between the name and the orange border with the width of the rest of the logo. See the difference between in the space between the “NY” and the island itself with the orange border compared to the team name.

    Boy, its tough to talk about logos without visual aids.

  • BCrisp | January 11, 2007 at 8:22 pm |

    Is this the logo you’re talking about James?
    Islanders

  • Bill T. | January 11, 2007 at 8:26 pm |

    Can we consider this flawed? Original Pacers logo.

  • Giancarlo | January 11, 2007 at 8:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”40594″][quote comment=”40586″][quote comment=”40573″]Also, not really uni-related…but I still think it relative enough to post….

    In Washington, D.C., U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein will be introducing legislation later this month that would require the 49ers to get permission from San Francisco to retain their name if they moved to Santa Clara.

    If the Niners were to relocate, and Senator Feinstein’s bill passed, the cost of the move could be the team’s name and logo. In a speech before the Senate Judiciary Committee on November 14, Senator Feinstein said, “The 49er is the tradition of the city. San Francisco is the city of the Gold Rush. … You can’t move to Santa Clara and call yourself a 49er–you’re not. And you certainly can’t call yourself the San Francisco 49ers–you’re not.”

    CLICK HERE FOR THE FULL STORY[/quote]

    I hope it passes! I’ve always thought that the city should keep the name, logo and records. How many yards has Johnny U passed for in the city of Indianapolis? Yep.. 0. However, he is the city’s leading passer according to their media guide?

    No Lakes in LA, can a Cardinal survive in Arizona, and the Jazz in Utah?? They don’t even allow music![/quote]

    I believe the whole “team name, colors, logo, history, etc. belong to the city and not the franchise” deal started when the Ravens moved to Baltimore. Other teams have moved in the past and changed their names in the process, but I don’t think they *had* to.

    I imagine a lot of cities (including Baltimore) wish they had thought of that when their teams were re-located, it really should be standard practice.

    Of course, Santa Clara ins’t that far from San Francisco, and it’s at least in the same state. I don’t thnk calling a team that plays in Santa Clara the “San Francisco 49ers” is nearly as bad as refering the two football teams that play in New Jersey as “The New York …”[/quote]

    With regards to your last statement, if we apply that logic we can no longer refer to the Statue of Liberty as a New York City landmark. Technically it’s in New Jersey.

  • Dave A | January 11, 2007 at 8:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”40607″][quote comment=”40602″][quote comment=”40600″]Don’t know if it’s been mentioned already or not, but it looks like the Seattle Mariners will be wearing this 30th Anniversary jersey patch this season:
    jersey patch[/quote]

    I was BORN the same year as the Mariners?

    *gulp*[/quote]

    And the Toronto Blue Jays . . .sorry, the Toronto Jays (since they’ve distanced themselves from the color blue)[/quote]

    The Jays wore a 30th patch last season, which was their 30th in the AL. The Jays’ logo says 30th Season, while the Mariners’ says 30th Anniversary.

  • S Bennett | January 11, 2007 at 8:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”40666″]While looking at the Capitals logo from James’ post. I noticed something. If they are going to use a building in their logo it should be Capitols.
    Capitals[/quote]

    Interesting point. I guess it’s an issue of being the capital city, not the Capitol building. Don’t forget, this isn’t the first Caps logo.The team probably thought about this when they first chose the name, but it did raise an issue when they changed to their third logo.

  • Johnny O | January 11, 2007 at 8:41 pm |

    Well, I thought it would happen… and it did. The Milwaukee Brewers announced today that they will be celebrating their World Series loss with commemorative patches during their now “Retro Friday” home games. As you remember last year the Crew wore the old school uniforms every sunday, but now they are honoring a member of the 1982 AL Cahmpionship team with a bobblehead on friday home games. Along with that, they will be wearing a patch on their right shoulder.

    I have never heard of a team celebrating a World Series loss before. But then again… when you have only made one World Series in your teams history (minus the Milwaukee Braves), I guess it should be commended.

    At least the unis still look awesome.

    25th anniversary of the 1982 AL Champs

  • =bg= | January 11, 2007 at 8:45 pm |

    All I know is, when I was IN Beaverton, I asked several people where Nike was..and no one knew.

    In Nike’s defense, I had an acquaintance who worked there, and I swear I got more free stuff than Michael Jordon. Now I WAS a walking swoosh for several years.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  • James | January 11, 2007 at 8:55 pm |

    Yeah, thats the logo, thanks BCrisp.

    I noticed a few other things.

    Minnesota Twins: There is no drop shadow between the “i” and the “n’, but there is one between the “n” and the “s”.

    Astros: probably stylistic, but why use the cursive “r” and not the cursive “s”? The Padres, Dodgers, and Cardinals don’t have this problem. Or you could have gone with a non cursive “r”. Now, it sort of looks like the Astnos.

    Braves: probably another stylistic choice, but I haven’t seen a cursive “e” written like that.

    Brewers: cursive script, but no connector between the “w” and the “e”, not to mention the different “s”. Are there a bunch of different cursive conventions? I’d be glad if someone had more info on this.

    And, some cool things:

    Mets and Rangers have baseballs in their logos whose stitching is detailed so that you can see it offset according to perspective. Very cool.

    Also, I love how the “s” in the Mets’ logo ends with that little offset inside the loop.

    Toronto Raptors: although I don’t think its entirely anatomically correct, the weird little extra claw coming out of the ankle of the left shoe.

  • Brian H | January 11, 2007 at 9:16 pm |

    GASP! I’m watching the Philadelphia Flyers right now and I just noticed: The logo on their helmets has changed! Last season and most of this season has had the “FLYERS” font logo on them, as seen here:

    I’ve been looking back at photos of the past month and it looks like the Flyers did not make this change until December 12th when they hosted the Rangers. The font was ditched for a small logo of their primary logo, as shown here: This helmet change only seems to be for home games. How curious.

    The thing is that the Flyers used to use the primary logo on the helmet back as far as I can remember…2000 maybe?

    Then in 03-04, they changed to the helmets that had the backwards Flyers logo.

  • Brian H | January 11, 2007 at 9:19 pm |

    Meh, links didn’t post, so here they are:

    http://www.sportslog...
    http://images.comcas...
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    BTW, funny pic with Roenick:

    http://images.comcas...

  • Larry C | January 11, 2007 at 9:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”40680″][quote comment=”40594″][quote comment=”40586″][quote comment=”40573″]Also, not really uni-related…but I still think it relative enough to post….

    In Washington, D.C., U.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein will be introducing legislation later this month that would require the 49ers to get permission from San Francisco to retain their name if they moved to Santa Clara.

    If the Niners were to relocate, and Senator Feinstein’s bill passed, the cost of the move could be the team’s name and logo. In a speech before the Senate Judiciary Committee on November 14, Senator Feinstein said, “The 49er is the tradition of the city. San Francisco is the city of the Gold Rush. … You can’t move to Santa Clara and call yourself a 49er–you’re not. And you certainly can’t call yourself the San Francisco 49ers–you’re not.”

    CLICK HERE FOR THE FULL STORY[/quote]

    I hope it passes! I’ve always thought that the city should keep the name, logo and records. How many yards has Johnny U passed for in the city of Indianapolis? Yep.. 0. However, he is the city’s leading passer according to their media guide?

    No Lakes in LA, can a Cardinal survive in Arizona, and the Jazz in Utah?? They don’t even allow music![/quote]

    I believe the whole “team name, colors, logo, history, etc. belong to the city and not the franchise” deal started when the Ravens moved to Baltimore. Other teams have moved in the past and changed their names in the process, but I don’t think they *had* to.

    I imagine a lot of cities (including Baltimore) wish they had thought of that when their teams were re-located, it really should be standard practice.

    Of course, Santa Clara ins’t that far from San Francisco, and it’s at least in the same state. I don’t thnk calling a team that plays in Santa Clara the “San Francisco 49ers” is nearly as bad as refering the two football teams that play in New Jersey as “The New York …”[/quote]

    I agree. I don’t see what the senator is so riled up about. The LA Lakers, the most prominent team in basketball, played in a suburb of LA while they were at the forum, yet were allowed to keep the LA name. The Detroit Pistons play 30-plus miles north of Detroit, are actually closer to another city — Pontiac — and are allowed to keep the Detroit name. (Before Ford Field, Lions actually played in the Pontiac Silverdome, and that was a reference to the city, not the auto brand.)

    Santa Clara is not too far away from San Francisco. I also understand that Candlestick Park is in need of serious renovations, and the owners were simply looking for places in the area to build a new stadium. Then again, maybe I’m totally ignorant of the culture in the Bay Area. Residents seem to be very possessive over their cities. (Witness the Oakland, San Jose, and Golden State squads.) Perhaps there’s a deeply rooted pride that a former Detroiter/current Seattlite like me can’t understand.

  • Bill T. | January 11, 2007 at 9:40 pm |

    Since this image was brought up in Brian H’s post, does anyone know why Martin Brodeur’s mask always had a horned/tailed “J” on the crown and not the typical “NJ” Devils logo?

  • C.N. | January 11, 2007 at 9:43 pm |

    Just because some pathetic flasher opens his raincoat, that doesn’t mean you have to look — just keep walking.

    I guess this is a New York thing…?

  • Minna H. | January 11, 2007 at 9:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”40686″]
    Minnesota Twins: There is no drop shadow between the “i” and the “n’, but there is one between the “n” and the “s”.
    [/quote]

    James, I see a drop shadow between every letter. Is this the logo you were looking at?

  • C.N. | January 11, 2007 at 10:04 pm |

    But am I the only one that finds it quite annoying every time someone points out that something somebody wore was purple, or posts a link to something purple and makes a bad joke about how Paul must hate it?

    I agree… considering Paul has pointed out that he doesn’t hate purple, just its use in sports uniforms.

  • S Bennett | January 11, 2007 at 10:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”40696″]Just because some pathetic flasher opens his raincoat, that doesn’t mean you have to look — just keep walking.

    I guess this is a New York thing…?[/quote]

    What if it’s a really good flasher?

  • James | January 11, 2007 at 10:11 pm |

    Minna, check the bottom right of the “i” and the bottom right of the “n”, there is a little bar that isn’t their between the “n” and the “s” on the Twins logo.

  • James | January 11, 2007 at 10:12 pm |

    I mean there is a little bar between the n and the s and not between the i and n.

  • C.N. | January 11, 2007 at 10:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”40617″]So I decided to get the all-red Cincinnati hat. My brother got the red Nationals hat and a Dodgers hat.[/quote]

    You saw the buy-two, get-one-free deal too, huh? Got Royals, Nationals, and Rangers hats.

  • DP30 | January 11, 2007 at 10:15 pm |

    Damn, got beaten to the Islanders’ discrepancy in their logo. Looking at it though, you would think that the wording could be shifting so that it all fits on the blue background. But at the same time, there may be the possibility that the “I” and “S” could bleed into the Island backdrop.

    Somewhat relating to the earlier discussion on the wave design within the current Padres’ logo, I always felt that the logo for Super Bowl XXXVII (which, ironically was played in San Diego) was pretty much a rip-off of the Islanders’ alternate lighthouse logo in the mid-late ’90s. Thoughts?

  • john | January 11, 2007 at 10:19 pm |

    Found some random hockey things…

    – Someone mentioned the uneven wreath leaves on the Ottawa Senators logo (11 bottom, 10 top). Well, in 93/94 they had “Ottawa Senators” in that spot. Not sure when they changed. The current home/alternate logo has yet another number of leaves, 10 bottom and 5 top.

    – Is the Penguin’s lower hand in front of the stick?

    – Here’s one of the Columbus Blue Jackets secondary logos. It has continuous tape on the blade. Here’s the primary logo. Does this count as improperly taped?

    – The little leaf between AHL and 2007 is blatantly off, because ASG logos really aren’t that important.

    – Is the AHL logo guy even holding the stick with his lower hand?

  • john | January 11, 2007 at 10:27 pm |

    I missed this…..

    Notice that there are leaves in the visor to go with the words in the 93/94 logo, then a bare visor and leaves around the head in the current version. The alternate is covered in leaves. Are we to believe that the sens are a peaceful people? Look at their blueline…

  • Hammer | January 11, 2007 at 10:32 pm |

    just thought that i would let everybody know that a friend of mine got a tatoo with the nike tri-bolt logo on his back last night. i dont hate nike as much as some other readers so i think it actually looks pretty cool

  • Minna H. | January 11, 2007 at 10:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”40704″]I mean there is a little bar between the n and the s and not between the i and n.[/quote]

    James, great. Another thing to bug me about the Twins’ logo! Nice eye, by the way.

  • BurghFan | January 11, 2007 at 10:56 pm |

    You are streeeeeeeeeeetching for that Bulls thing with the 6 trophies making up a bull’s body. I just think it’s a way for them to show off that they have 6 championships. Good thing the Celtics never did this or they wouldn’t be able to fit the image anywhere.

    What the Celtics would do on their tickets, in years where they defending a championship, is replace the basketball on the leprechaun’s finger with the NBA trophy.

  • Bill T. | January 11, 2007 at 11:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”40708″]Found some random hockey things…

    – Someone mentioned the uneven wreath leaves on the Ottawa Senators logo (11 bottom, 10 top). Well, in 93/94 they had “Ottawa Senators” in that spot. Not sure when they changed. The current home/alternate logo has yet another number of leaves, 10 bottom and 5 top.

    – Is the Penguin’s lower hand in front of the stick?

    – Here’s one of the Columbus Blue Jackets secondary logos. It has continuous tape on the blade. Here’s the primary logo. Does this count as improperly taped?

    – The little leaf between AHL and 2007 is blatantly off, because ASG logos really aren’t that important.

    – Is the AHL logo guy even holding the stick with his lower hand?[/quote]

    Here goes…

    I didn’t even notice the switch between the Sens’ wreaths and word mark. Nice catch.

    The Penguin looks as if he is about to pass or shoot backhanded.

    The Columbus logos are too abstract and cartoonish to properly detail stick taping.

    As for the AHL logo guy, he looks left-handed.

    Speaking of the AHL, I do miss these guys.

  • Teebz | January 11, 2007 at 11:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”40708″]Is the Penguin’s lower hand in front of the stick?
    [/quote]

    No, the Penguin is holding the stick properly.

  • Beats | January 11, 2007 at 11:22 pm |

    The Big Ten logo like the FedEx logo has a hidden logo within the larger logo…”Despite the conference’s name, since Penn State joined in 1990, there have been 11 schools in the Big Ten, as signified by the hidden “11” in the Big Ten Conference logo”…http://en.wikipedia....

  • Ryan | January 11, 2007 at 11:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”40694″]Since this image was brought up in Brian H’s post, does anyone know why Martin Brodeur’s mask always had a horned/tailed “J” on the crown and not the typical “NJ” Devils logo?[/quote]
    Brodeur’s had that helmet forever… my hunch is that he used it durring his days in the AHL as well, with the now-defunct Utica Devils (you can google for the image, the links never work for me)… I’m guessing he used only the “J” because it’s an element present in both the New Jersey and Utica logos… but that’s just a hunch (I’ll try to find an image of Brodeur with Utica)

  • David | January 11, 2007 at 11:44 pm |

    300+ posts…What’s the record?

  • Paul Lukas | January 11, 2007 at 11:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”40634″]if any of you have read books about nike, you will know that it is not just a company, it is a culture and an attitude.[/quote]

    Sigh. Every corporation is a culture and an “attitude” (sorry, couldn’t write that part without quotes). That’s what branding is all about. Apple, IBM, McDonald’s, GE, Halliburton, Shell, Wal-Mart, ESPN, the Yankees — culture and “attitude” up the wazoo, each and every one. When you feel a connection with a particular company’s culture, that may make the company seem very special to you, but other other people think that the companies that they identify with are every bit as special. The corporate cultures may be distinct, but the basic notion of HAVING a corporate culture is nothing remarkable.

  • Jeff B | January 12, 2007 at 12:00 am |

    [quote comment=”40725″]300+ posts…What’s the record?[/quote]

    According to an earlier post, it was 313 so it would be 314+ now.

  • tessa | January 12, 2007 at 12:09 am |

    [quote comment=”40390″]Anyone notice the Leon Washington-Like finger signs that our prez is flaunting to the camera in the Bush Rugby picture?
    Could it mean “I did 2, count ’em 2, lines of coke last night!”?[/quote]

    It certainly isn’t a peace sign. :P

  • tessa | January 12, 2007 at 12:13 am |

    [quote comment=”40423″][quote comment=”40414″]Or how about the FedEx (which originally stood for Federal Express) now has an express service and their trucks say “FedEx Express” which corelates to “Federal Express Express”.

    Weird. Well I’m off to use my PIN number at the ATM machine and get a sandwich WITH au jus.[/quote]

    Just another example of RAS Syndrome (Redundant Acronym Syndrome…)[/quote]

    I know about autological words, but this is the first autological phrase I have ever seen. Well done!

  • Billy B. | January 12, 2007 at 12:15 am |

    [quote comment=”40678″]Can we consider this flawed? Original Pacers logo.[/quote]
    I never knew that the Pacers had a tennis team.

    I picked up the Giants, Nats, and Indians caps.

  • u kno DBo | January 12, 2007 at 12:47 am |

    Ok, I know most of us prefer this Brewers â„¢ logo to this one, but look at the ball in the glove. Interesting?

    I’m not sure if it was mentioned, but the glove logo is flawed in that it only has four fingers – out of necessity of course to create the “m”.

    the 3 fingers on top make an M, and the thumb and the body of the glove make a B, i never noticed this before but i imagine it was designed to say MB

  • Jeff | January 12, 2007 at 12:49 am |

    i just turned on the phoenix suns game and on the back of Amare Stoudemire’s jersey it looked liek the logo above his name was off center and skewed. I don’t have a pic but anyone who can get a screen shot it was around the 7:48 mark in the 4th.

  • Minna H. | January 12, 2007 at 12:51 am |

    [quote comment=”40721″]The Big Ten logo like the FedEx logo has a hidden logo within the larger logo…”Despite the conference’s name, since Penn State joined in 1990, there have been 11 schools in the Big Ten, as signified by the hidden “11” in the Big Ten Conference logo”…http://en.wikipedia....

    Beats, I just looked this up. That is so obvious once you know it—but it’s not something I ever noticed before. Of course, it will be all I can see from now on. Hm. Maybe there is such a thing as too much knowledge.

  • The Original Lee | January 12, 2007 at 2:04 am |

    this might have already been posted, im not reading all of the posts before me, but the new England home soccer kiet leaked.

    http://img238.images...

  • dirwuf | January 12, 2007 at 3:31 am |

    The AFL All-Star game picture is DEFINITELY from the game played in January 1963. The exact same photo was used on the cover of the program for the following year’s game.

  • dirwuf | January 12, 2007 at 3:35 am |
  • baude | January 12, 2007 at 4:29 am |

    [quote comment=”40434″][quote comment=”40431″]
    That’s awsome. That’s good use of the “A” for the assistant captain.[/quote]

    Ironically, they don’t use the Calgary “C” for the captain, though. Iginla, who is the captain this year, wears a normal block font “C”. Robyn Regehr, who is an alternate, wears the Atlanta “A”.[/quote]

    Theoren used to wear a double flaming c back int he flames’ race car days. Also here.

    But not always. I guess the flames wised up to the ridiculous repetition.

  • baude | January 12, 2007 at 5:55 am |

    non-Uni, but this day’s thread is pretty much over so what the hell.

    I wasn’t anti-nike before, but some the sneakers that were supposed to be delivered by XMas only just got delivered to me now.

    For Shame!

  • baude | January 12, 2007 at 6:04 am |

    [quote comment=”40742″]this might have already been posted, im not reading all of the posts before me, but the new England home soccer kiet leaked.

    http://img238.images...

    Interesting uniform number choice! Unless they’re touting Owen Hargreaves as the team’s premier player, someone at Umbro thought Becks was still on the squad.

  • S Bennett | January 12, 2007 at 6:54 am |

    [quote comment=”40758″][quote comment=”40742″]this might have already been posted, im not reading all of the posts before me, but the new England home soccer kiet leaked.

    http://img238.images...

    Interesting uniform number choice! Unless they’re touting Owen Hargreaves as the team’s premier player, someone at Umbro thought Becks was still on the squad.[/quote]

    Maybe, but seven has always been a magical football number. Midfield dynamo, creator, graft man, all the good stuff comes togehter in the number 7.

    by the way (and if I can get through the firewall at work I might post again on today’s bit) here’s a bit on US National team soccer player clint Dempsey from the English tabloids:

    Fulham’s new signing Clint Dempsey is also a hip-hop star who goes by the name of ‘Deuce’ and scored a big hit last year with ‘Don’t Tread’, a track recorded to mark the United States’ participation in the World Cup. Sample lyric: “Game took hold like the roots of a tree, Thank God soccer’s a sport and Nike sign me”.

    thought y’all would love that.

  • Kyle | January 12, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    I’ve got two logos that bug me….

    The Angels “winged A” which was used during the Disney days, always looked like there was male anatomy attached to it.

    The other was the old Pacers logo with the hand tipping a ball in the “P”. The ball looks like a tennis ball. Size, shape, even color.

    Since none of the Creamer links are working, I’ll save myself the trouble.

  • Kerry | January 12, 2007 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”40736″][quote comment=”40721″]The Big Ten logo like the FedEx logo has a hidden logo within the larger logo…”Despite the conference’s name, since Penn State joined in 1990, there have been 11 schools in the Big Ten, as signified by the hidden “11” in the Big Ten Conference logo”…http://en.wikipedia....

    Beats, I just looked this up. That is so obvious once you know it—but it’s not something I ever noticed before. Of course, it will be all I can see from now on. Hm. Maybe there is such a thing as too much knowledge.[/quote]
    Im kinda the opposite…I have always seen the “Hidden 11” in the Big Ten logo, but have NEVER noticed the arrow in the FedEx logo until it was pointed out on here. Perhaps that’s due to the fact that I spend an awful lot more time watching sports thatn I do watching delivery truck races.

  • B Wach$ | January 12, 2007 at 11:26 pm |

    As I read this I am wearing my Duke team shorts so instinctivly I look at the logo on the side. The ball only has six panels. Alternate view here

  • Joe | January 13, 2007 at 12:36 am |

    The Detroit Pistons play 30-plus miles north of Detroit, are actually closer to another city — Pontiac — and are allowed to keep the Detroit name. (Before Ford Field, Lions actually played in the Pontiac Silverdome, and that was a reference to the city, not the auto brand.)

    To call Pontiac a city in the same sense of Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago is a humongous stretch. It only has 66,000 people. I attended MSU and I always found that the kids from the Detroit burbs would always say they were from Detroit initially not Troy or Rochester, Novi etc. (Except Gross Pointe kids, they were from Gross Pointe!) Maybe referencing Detroit gave them some extra cache or street cred…So I don’t find it too troubling that the Pistons and Lions kept Detroit in their names. It’s the Detroit Metropolitan Area and Auburn Hills and Pontiac are in that area.

    As far as the Isles logo in Post# 274,282 & 283. I’m a lifelong Islander fan (born and raised on the Island) and I always saw the top of the I in Islanders a way to stylistically represent Jamaica Bay. I never knew if the Island in the logo was supposed to represent all of Long Island(including Brooklyn and Queens) or just Nassau and Suffolk counties (what people in NY refer to when they say “Long Island”) I just guessed it was the “whole” Island.

  • Jeff | January 13, 2007 at 5:59 pm |

    I suspect that no one is looking here anymore, but I am right now watching the Ravens/Colts game on CBS. The centerline of the Ravens shield on the field is not in the middle of the 50-yard line — the centerline actually matches up with the left side of the 50-yard line.