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What Is It They Have in Europe? Oh, Right: Taste

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The annual Spengler Cup tourney was recently held in Switzerland, providing an ideal showcase for the bizarre advertising-plastered hockey uniforms that are so commonplace in Europe. I have a hard time even looking at these designs, but reader Jonathan Goupil bravely donned a radiation suit and then spent several hours photo-researching. His roundup is as follows:

I love to hate these European jerseys, so I kept looking for the pics that would sicken me the most. And there’s some disturbing stuff, like the Swiss league referees wearing red helmets and quite a weird jersey design. Here’s another “interesting” ref jersey design.

I’m lovin’ it: I spotted several teams wearing McDonalds logos [here, here, here, and here].

One of the games was played on a soccer field. But that didn’t stop the local soccer team from holding a practice.

Now, I knew Finnish elite league (SM-Liiga) has the top scorer on each team wear a golden helmet (here’s a better view). After some research, I found that the Swiss league used to give out a silver helmet. I say they “used to,” because now, not only does the top scorer wear a helmet with flames on it, he also gets to wear a different jersey. The front is the same as the others, but the back has no uni number, a different sponsor, a bunch of flames, and a “Top Scorer” designation.

That really struck me. Anyone got further info on this? I can’t read Finnish or German too well, so all I could do was look at pictures. Any other leagues or sports do this?

Most of those pictures I got from this great site. Just click around on the pictures and you’ll find photo galleries. Kinda tough to get around, but there’s tons of (sorta) cool uni pictures.

Big thanks to Jonathan for that truly nauseating tour of hockey stylings on the other side of the Atlantic.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Just won this vintage catalog on eBay. Looks like it has some pretty cool content. More details when the actual item arrives in the mail. … Jonathan Gault has come up with a few more presidential uni pics, this time of the White House’s current occupant, as seen here and here (top row, second from left). … Yesterday I mentioned that Nate Burleson of the Seahawks was wearing a Vikings-colored mouthguard on Saturday. Here’s a screen shot, courtesy of Scott Throndson.

 

190 comments to What Is It They Have in Europe? Oh, Right: Taste

  • MH | January 9, 2007 at 9:09 am |

    Those European hockey jerseys defy words.

  • todd krevanchi | January 9, 2007 at 9:20 am |

    just to help out with some post xmas shopping,
    here are the most recent friends and family offers
    footlocker
    champs
    footaction

    go nuts!

  • Ian K | January 9, 2007 at 9:21 am |

    Some uni observations from last night’s BCS game-
    Florida’s uniforms were way too busy with TWO patches. The SEC patch got cut in favor of the BCS Championship patch and their 100th anniversary patch. Is that 100 years of football? And on the subject of the patch, unlike in Europe, we in the US are very against on-uniform advertisements, but having “Tostitos” on the patch seems to be okay.

    I never noticed that Ohio State’s pants are not as silver as their helmets. It’s sort of a beige-gray shade, I don’t even know what to call it.

    A lot of the Florida players were wearing the Nike Pro Vent undershirts, and some had the personalized tribal designs on the shoulders. When the jersey partially obscured the design, the two tribal lightning bolt things, coupled with the swoosh, looked like a smiley face on their sleeves. Still trying to find photo evidence.

  • dchis | January 9, 2007 at 9:23 am |

    During the National Championship game last night I noticed that the Gators have different bumpers for different helmets. The Riddell helmets have the normal Riddell bumpers, but the other branded helmets have the Gatorhead logo (TM) on them. It appears to be a rubber logo that is raised from the bumper.

  • WVU Tom | January 9, 2007 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment=”39505″]Some uni observations from last night’s BCS game-
    Florida’s uniforms were way too busy with TWO patches. The SEC patch got cut in favor of the BCS Championship patch and their 100th anniversary patch. Is that 100 years of football? And on the subject of the patch, unlike in Europe, we in the US are very against on-uniform advertisements, but having “Tostitos” on the patch seems to be okay.

    [/quote]

    Allowing teams to place sponsors on a jersey or uniform has always been taboo, but giving corporate sponsors influence on the naming of the sporting events themselves has been popular for quite a while. The name of the game being played, like it or not, was the “Tostitos BCS Championship”, which the patch indicated. Much different than individual teams printing sponsor name on the uniforms.

  • ML | January 9, 2007 at 9:37 am |

    Is Jim Rice wearing a garbage bag under his uniform?

  • todd krevanchi | January 9, 2007 at 9:39 am |

    it was mentioned last week in the steve yzerman article that their hanging banners were replace with newer, more accurate banners.
    UNC has gone under a similar facelift, replacing ALL the smith center banners. retired/honored jerseys, championship, etc.
    before
    after

    the smith center is finishing up its renovation…
    if you guys are looking for any gift ideas for me…
    i’ll take this

  • Kenny | January 9, 2007 at 9:42 am |

    Anyone notice the very busy BCS Bowl Champs hats

    Louisville

    USC

    Boise St.

    LSU

    Click on the links view more pictures and you’ll see a lot of the sponsors logos on them as well

  • Chris | January 9, 2007 at 9:42 am |

    Hi there
    The Swiss Top Scorer has to wear that strange TOP SCORER jersey, which is sponsored by the Swiss Postal Office. The idea is, that for every scorer point, the Swiss Postal Office pays 200 Swiss Francs to Juniors’ ice hockey programms all around Switzerland and the players, as well (current rankings here and the complete concept here).

  • Matt B | January 9, 2007 at 9:49 am |

    What’s better than heavily striped socks? Full-length horizontally striped pants, of course. Sure, it’s not a sports uniform if you want to be picky about all that. But congrats are in order for the newest member of the R&R Hall, no?

  • PDXclark | January 9, 2007 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”39511″]Is Jim Rice wearing a garbage bag under his uniform?[/quote]
    No, but close- its a rubberized windbreaker. Pretty common in baseball, but I was too lazy too dig one up in a catolog.

    Also, call me crazy, but am I the only one who thinks those McDonalds hockey socks are so bad they’re good? I like ’em!

  • Andrew F | January 9, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    A lot of those hockey jerseys (and specifically that first ref one, i’m 99% sure [since a league I reffed for here on LI had the same ones]) are made by a company called Ace Jerseys. Their site, albeit a bit outdated, has a ton of pics. My college roller hockey team also got all of our uniforms from them. http://www.acejersey... worth taking a look at.

  • WVU Tom | January 9, 2007 at 9:58 am |

    [quote comment=”39518″]

    Also, call me crazy, but am I the only one who thinks those McDonalds hockey socks are so bad they’re good? I like ’em![/quote]

    You may be alone there…

    Seeing those sponsor logo filled uniforms almost makes it seem silly to complain about a simple ‘swoosh’ here and there.

  • John from KY | January 9, 2007 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment=”39505″]Some uni observations from last night’s BCS game-
    I never noticed that Ohio State’s pants are not as silver as their helmets. It’s sort of a beige-gray shade, I don’t even know what to call it.[/quote]

    Nike has been offering pants with that flat fabric (which I suppose is some type of “dry” fabric like their jerseys) instead of the “metallic” spandex fabric for 2-3 years now. Ohio State changed to those pants for the 2005 season; prior to that their pants were the shiny metallic silver that matched the helmets. You’re right, these new ones are an odd shade; I haven’t seen any other Nike team with silver pants in their set using this style of pants.

  • Jeff F. | January 9, 2007 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”39505″] Some uni observations from last night’s BCS game-
    Florida’s uniforms were way too busy with TWO patches. The SEC patch got cut in favor of the BCS Championship patch and their 100th anniversary patch. Is that 100 years of football? And on the subject of the patch, unlike in Europe, we in the US are very against on-uniform advertisements, but having “Tostitos” on the patch seems to be okay.[/quote]

    Actually, it looks like they are wearing THREE patches. There is an SEC patch where the v-neck meets. I’ve never seen this type of conference patch before. It’s just the standard NCAA patch with the conference name replacing “NCAA.” Did other teams do this during the season?

  • Richard | January 9, 2007 at 10:07 am |

    [quote comment=”39509″][quote comment=”39505″]Some uni observations from last night’s BCS game-
    Florida’s uniforms were way too busy with TWO patches. The SEC patch got cut in favor of the BCS Championship patch and their 100th anniversary patch. Is that 100 years of football? And on the subject of the patch, unlike in Europe, we in the US are very against on-uniform advertisements, but having “Tostitos” on the patch seems to be okay.

    [/quote]

    Allowing teams to place sponsors on a jersey or uniform has always been taboo, but giving corporate sponsors influence on the naming of the sporting events themselves has been popular for quite a while. The name of the game being played, like it or not, was the “Tostitos BCS Championship”, which the patch indicated. Much different than individual teams printing sponsor name on the uniforms.[/quote]

    The SEC patch did not get cut. It is on the jersey, at the bottom of the head opening (or whatever you want to asthetically call it).

  • Richard | January 9, 2007 at 10:10 am |

    or i can get beaten to the punch…good eye Jeff.

  • Stephen | January 9, 2007 at 10:11 am |

    #30 for the Gators last night, Earl Everett was wearing only one Nike plastered sleeve.Also his helmet flew off while making a sack on Troy Smith. Perhaps a chinstrap malfunction?

  • The Ol Goaler | January 9, 2007 at 10:14 am |

    After looking at those Euro-hockey unis, the much-dreaded “launch” of the new Reebok unis at this year’s NHL All-Star Game doesn’t seem so bad…

    However, they’ll still have to rip my Glenn Hall “replica” St. Louis Blues sweater off my cold, dead body! ;-)

  • Jason | January 9, 2007 at 10:15 am |

    OK, I’m a Euro-hockey buffoon. What would these club team be comparable to in the U.S.? Would they be IHL/AHL level, or more along the lines of the USHL (Green Bay Gamblers, Sioux Falls Stampede, etc…), or better, or worse. Just curious.

  • Stephen | January 9, 2007 at 10:15 am |

    Here is the picture of Earl Everett

  • Mike | January 9, 2007 at 10:15 am |

    An IRS auditor pointed out to me that one reason that sponsor names are so prominent in bowl promotions, when other types of advertising on the field or on uniforms are usually nowhere to be seen, is the Internal Revenue Code. Believe it or not, but the football bowl games are usually set up as nonprofit organizations. The Fiesta Bowl, for example, is organized by the Arizona Sports Foundation, a 501( c )( 3 ) “charitable organization” (those are the IRS’s words, not mine). For nonprofits, “sponsorships” (such as naming rights) are tax-exempt as income. Advertising income, on the other hand, is usually taxable, even for charities. If you notice, even on the Fiesta Bowl website, most of the “ads” are simply corporate logos or feel-good messages. (Click on “Charities” under their “Community” menu to see them tout their nonprofit status.)

    Amateur athletics is almost always guaranteed tax-exempt status from the IRS. In the government’s view, the only difference between the Fiesta Bowl and your son’s Pee Wee league is a matter of scale. “Tostito’s Fiesta Bowl” patches are the big money equivalent of “Bob’s Hardware” T-shirts.

  • Steve | January 9, 2007 at 10:19 am |

    I’m sure the subject has been discussed before, but am I the only one who thought OSU’s helmet stickers looked incredibly tacky last night? I’m not a fan of the concept to begin with, but after a season’s accumulation, it just looks pretty stupid.

  • Erc | January 9, 2007 at 10:22 am |

    Back in the day, my Little League had teams not named after MLB teams, but named for their sponsor. I played for McDonalds and had the name across my chest with the golden arches as the M. My had had the arch as well (actually tastfully done relative to those crazy european hockey unis). We were also color coordinated with the unis the restaurant employees wore. At the time it was light blue and dark blue (think TN Titans). Anyway, If I knew how to post a scanned pic, I would be happy to share. The picture of me is with my little brother who played for the local bank, and he had the full bank’s name: *******(7 letters in the city’s name) Cooperative Bank. It was in three rows on the front of the jersey. As a team memeber for the bank he got a savings account with $25 at the end of the season. I got a team dinner at the McD’s with wait service and all you could eat. Yummy for a 12 yo.

  • Tape | January 9, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    [quote comment=”39535″]I’m sure the subject has been discussed before, but am I the only one who thought OSU’s helmet stickers looked incredibly tacky last night? I’m not a fan of the concept to begin with, but after a season’s accumulation, it just looks pretty stupid.[/quote]

    am I mistaken, or was there a time where OSU used to only put the buckeye pride stickers on one side of the helmet?

    I have a mental image of that in my head, and the mental image of that in my head is pretty cool.

  • Joe Hilseberg | January 9, 2007 at 10:23 am |

    I actually love the McDonald’s socks! As long as you’re going to got sponsor crazy, do it as cool as possible!

    The Micky-D logo (love them or hate them) is just like the Nike logo. Clean and timeless.

  • Richard Zelonka | January 9, 2007 at 10:26 am |

    Even as a most diehard Gator fan, the logo creep leather jacket Urban Meyer put on after the game was shameless….at least he admitted that “Nike is very good to us” and that he essentially had no choice but to wear it?

  • Kenny | January 9, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”39529″]#30 for the Gators last night, Earl Everett was wearing only one Nike plastered sleeve.Also his helmet flew off while making a sack on Troy Smith. Perhaps a chinstrap malfunction?[/quote]

    Since they replayed that over and over again during the game, what I think happened was not a chinstrap malfunction, but when he ducked his head a little bit and got hit/grabbed on the back of the helmet it just slid off…most of the time when this happens, it’s with the guys who have a lot of hair (long/dreadlocks)

  • Andrew F | January 9, 2007 at 10:29 am |

    [quote comment=”39532″]OK, I’m a Euro-hockey buffoon. What would these club team be comparable to in the U.S.? Would they be IHL/AHL level, or more along the lines of the USHL (Green Bay Gamblers, Sioux Falls Stampede, etc…), or better, or worse. Just curious.[/quote]

    The better teams there would probably be a low level AHL team at best. There are many players over there that would be excellent players over here right away (like Henrik Lundqvist), but top to bottom, I don’t think they’d have the depth of the AHL teams here.

    On a uni related note, McDonald’s really seems to be big on hockey for some reason. They have had plenty of sponsorships on AHL and lower level unis before.

  • Coop | January 9, 2007 at 10:31 am |

    I don’t mind the helmet stickers, but I am afraid it is getting out of hand. While watching the OSU/UF game it looked like everyone had atleast one side of their helmet completely full. I know it is suppose to show accomplishments, but if everyone is doing it is it still a big accomplishment. I noticed it during the BYU/Oregon game as well.

  • WVU Tom | January 9, 2007 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”39540″]Even as a most diehard Gator fan, the logo creep leather jacket Urban Meyer put on after the game was shameless….at least he admitted that “Nike is very good to us” and that he essentially had no choice but to wear it?[/quote]

    I missed it–anyone with a pic?

  • Tim | January 9, 2007 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”39537″][quote comment=”39535″]I’m sure the subject has been discussed before, but am I the only one who thought OSU’s helmet stickers looked incredibly tacky last night? I’m not a fan of the concept to begin with, but after a season’s accumulation, it just looks pretty stupid.[/quote]

    am I mistaken, or was there a time where OSU used to only put the buckeye pride stickers on one side of the helmet?

    I have a mental image of that in my head, and the mental image of that in my head is pretty cool.[/quote]

    Nope, but they do fill up the left side completely before moving to the right side.

  • WVU Tom | January 9, 2007 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”39544″]I don’t mind the helmet stickers, but I am afraid it is getting out of hand. While watching the OSU/UF game it looked like everyone had atleast one side of their helmet completely full. I know it is suppose to show accomplishments, but if everyone is doing it is it still a big accomplishment. I noticed it during the BYU/Oregon game as well.[/quote]

    With the season they had, I’m not surprised that a lot of players had a lot of stickers. If the sickers are rewards for good play, then logically you should expect that an undefeated (until last night) team that goes to the National Championship has a lot of players who played very well throughout the season. If the team was 2-10, it would be harder to justify that many merit awards.

    (For the record, I am NOT an tOSU fan, nor a fan of the helmet stickers).

  • Ian K | January 9, 2007 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”39525″]
    Actually, it looks like they are wearing THREE patches. There is an SEC patch where the v-neck meets. I’ve never seen this type of conference patch before. It’s just the standard NCAA patch with the conference name replacing “NCAA.” Did other teams do this during the season?[/quote]

    Yeah I noticed that after I posted. I checked some other Florida games. The SEC patch has been on the v-neck all season, unlike other conferences who put it near the shoulder.

    [quote comment=”39536″]Back in the day, my Little League had teams not named after MLB teams, but named for their sponsor. [/quote]

    Good story, but I’m curious what your “day” is. In the early 90s when I lived in Raleigh, my Little League team was “Grocery Boy Jr” named for our sponsor, the convenience store. A year later when I moved to Texas, I played for the Twins, and wore the MLB logo uniform like many youth leagues do today.

  • Thorold Blair | January 9, 2007 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”39504″]just to help out with some post xmas shopping,
    here are the most recent friends and family offers
    footlocker
    champs
    footaction

    go nuts![/quote]

    MLB.com is offering buy 2 caps get one free on most of their stock, until the 15th of January

  • WVU Tom | January 9, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”39536″]Back in the day, my Little League had teams not named after MLB teams, but named for their sponsor. I played for McDonalds and had the name across my chest with the golden arches as the M. My had had the arch as well (actually tastfully done relative to those crazy european hockey unis). We were also color coordinated with the unis the restaurant employees wore.
    [/quote]

    Our little-league jerseys (and team names) were based on MLB teams, but out hats reflected the sponsors, which were under no obligation to actaully provide anything for the players on the team. I was always jealous of the McDonald’s Giants, as the players were always treated to a free meal after every game, while I got nothing from the local auto parts store that sponsored my team, the Cardinals. (This was in the mid 80’s, so I did have stirrups, but no cool St. Louis style stripes).

  • Erc | January 9, 2007 at 10:56 am |

    Good story, but I’m curious what your “day” is. In the early 90s when I lived in Raleigh, my Little League team was “Grocery Boy Jr” named for our sponsor, the convenience store. A year later when I moved to Texas, I played for the Twins, and wore the MLB logo uniform like many youth leagues do today.

    Mid 70’s.

  • Michael Churchill | January 9, 2007 at 10:59 am |

    [quote comment=”39543″][quote comment=”39532″]OK, I’m a Euro-hockey buffoon. What would these club team be comparable to in the U.S.? Would they be IHL/AHL level, or more along the lines of the USHL (Green Bay Gamblers, Sioux Falls Stampede, etc…), or better, or worse. Just curious.[/quote]

    The better teams there would probably be a low level AHL team at best. There are many players over there that would be excellent players over here right away (like Henrik Lundqvist), but top to bottom, I don’t think they’d have the depth of the AHL teams here.[/quote]

    So, before you judge, bear in mind that for many clubs, this sponsorship money is a vital source of income.

  • Erc | January 9, 2007 at 11:02 am |

    I was always jealous of the McDonald’s Giants, as the players were always treated to a free meal after every game, while I got nothing from the local auto parts

    :D As McD’s we would get a business card after each game that gave us a free soda, hamburger, or fries. Besides my brother getting paid by the bank to play, the only other team that got goodies was the team named after the sub shop. They go a free sub for every win. We also had a team for the funeral home, local pharmacy (thank got there was no viagra back then), Lions club, Rotary club, and a few other that i can not remember these days.

  • jon c. | January 9, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”39538″]I actually love the McDonald’s socks! As long as you’re going to got sponsor crazy, do it as cool as possible!

    The Micky-D logo (love them or hate them) is just like the Nike logo. Clean and timeless.[/quote]

    Add me to the list of heretics. I also think the spoke-striped ref. uni at the top of the page would be really cool if not for the stupid “fair play, please” note messing up the black and white striped scheme. otherwise it would be just about as classy as this.

  • WVU Tom | January 9, 2007 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”39556″][quote comment=”39543″][quote comment=”39532″]OK, I’m a Euro-hockey buffoon. What would these club team be comparable to in the U.S.? Would they be IHL/AHL level, or more along the lines of the USHL (Green Bay Gamblers, Sioux Falls Stampede, etc…), or better, or worse. Just curious.[/quote]

    The better teams there would probably be a low level AHL team at best. There are many players over there that would be excellent players over here right away (like Henrik Lundqvist), but top to bottom, I don’t think they’d have the depth of the AHL teams here.[/quote]

    So, before you judge, bear in mind that for many clubs, this sponsorship money is a vital source of income.[/quote]

    We should also keep in mind that this behavior is not isolated in Europe, or even overseas–it can be seen in some american sports as well.

  • Matty L. | January 9, 2007 at 11:06 am |

    This isn’t even in the same league as the McDonald’s socks in Europe but the AHL’s Toronto Marlies have a McDonalds ad on their jerseys .

    Hamilton Bulldogs are Pepsi sponsored which can be seen in countless times here
    (I particularly like the odd image of the Blue Jays mascot wearing skates)

    Even my University’s football team (McMaster) wear uniform sponsorship, I can’t find a clear picture but you can catch site of the Solo Mobile patch here

  • Kenny | January 9, 2007 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”39544″]I don’t mind the helmet stickers, but I am afraid it is getting out of hand. While watching the OSU/UF game it looked like everyone had atleast one side of their helmet completely full. I know it is suppose to show accomplishments, but if everyone is doing it is it still a big accomplishment. I noticed it during the BYU/Oregon game as well.[/quote]

    My buddy commented last night on this saying there were a lot of helmet stickers on the helmets

    [quote comment=”39549″][quote comment=”39544″]I don’t mind the helmet stickers, but I am afraid it is getting out of hand. While watching the OSU/UF game it looked like everyone had atleast one side of their helmet completely full. I know it is suppose to show accomplishments, but if everyone is doing it is it still a big accomplishment. I noticed it during the BYU/Oregon game as well.[/quote]

    With the season they had, I’m not surprised that a lot of players had a lot of stickers. If the sickers are rewards for good play, then logically you should expect that an undefeated (until last night) team that goes to the National Championship has a lot of players who played very well throughout the season. If the team was 2-10, it would be harder to justify that many merit awards.

    (For the record, I am NOT an tOSU fan, nor a fan of the helmet stickers).[/quote]

    Also if they get one for every win that means if someone didn’t play all year, they still got 12 stickers on their helmet for being on the team

  • Pat | January 9, 2007 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”39541″][quote comment=”39529″]#30 for the Gators last night, Earl Everett was wearing only one Nike plastered sleeve.Also his helmet flew off while making a sack on Troy Smith. Perhaps a chinstrap malfunction?[/quote]

    Since they replayed that over and over again during the game, what I think happened was not a chinstrap malfunction, but when he ducked his head a little bit and got hit/grabbed on the back of the helmet it just slid off…most of the time when this happens, it’s with the guys who have a lot of hair (long/dreadlocks)[/quote]

    Not to get picky, but those aren’t “dreadlocks.” These are dreadlocks. Those are braids.

  • Teebz | January 9, 2007 at 11:13 am |

    Ok, since there seems to be some confusion, I’ll provide some more. :o)

    The Russian Elite League would be much higher than AHL level. It is considered the second-best hockey league in the world (unofficially). The Swedish Elite League, the Finnish SM-liiga, and the Swiss Elite League would be around the AHL level, although they generally have higher calibre of play. The German Elite League would be equal to or slightly below the AHL. Since not much is spoken about the Czech Extra League, I would take a shot and lump it in with the Swedish, Finnish, and Swiss Leagues. If Jagr went home to play there, it can’t be that bad.

    As for the ads on the jerseys, I’ve made mention of how these teams don’t have billionaires funding them. Avangard Omsk of the Russian Super League may be the only one, as Roman Abramovich is the owner. The teams and leagues sell off areas of the jerseys in order to generate revenue.

    Ticket prices in Europe to one of the Elite Leagues rarely range above $50US. In fact, most are more than affordable. In the Russian Super League, most tickets range between $5US and $20US. Can you even buy a nosebleed ticket in the NHL for that? No.

    In this case, advertising helps the consumer. In fact, to sit in the best seats to see Metallurg Magnitogorsk, one of the better Russian teams, it would cost you about $7.50 per ticket.

  • Deron Steinke | January 9, 2007 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”39562″][quote comment=”39544″]I don’t mind the helmet stickers, but I am afraid it is getting out of hand. While watching the OSU/UF game it looked like everyone had atleast one side of their helmet completely full. I know it is suppose to show accomplishments, but if everyone is doing it is it still a big accomplishment. I noticed it during the BYU/Oregon game as well.[/quote]

    My buddy commented last night on this saying there were a lot of helmet stickers on the helmets

    [quote comment=”39549″][quote comment=”39544″]I don’t mind the helmet stickers, but I am afraid it is getting out of hand. While watching the OSU/UF game it looked like everyone had atleast one side of their helmet completely full. I know it is suppose to show accomplishments, but if everyone is doing it is it still a big accomplishment. I noticed it during the BYU/Oregon game as well.[/quote]

    With the season they had, I’m not surprised that a lot of players had a lot of stickers. If the sickers are rewards for good play, then logically you should expect that an undefeated (until last night) team that goes to the National Championship has a lot of players who played very well throughout the season. If the team was 2-10, it would be harder to justify that many merit awards.

    (For the record, I am NOT an tOSU fan, nor a fan of the helmet stickers).[/quote]

    Also if they get one for every win that means if someone didn’t play all year, they still got 12 stickers on their helmet for being on the team[/quote]

    I have always been a fan of both the Buckeyes and the helmet stickers. Not only does every team member get one for a win, but no one gets any in a loss. That is a big reason why some years only half the helmet is filled.

  • Anthony Verna | January 9, 2007 at 11:19 am |

    Count me among those who liked the spoke-striped ref uniform. . . minus the gaudy stuff.

  • razr | January 9, 2007 at 11:21 am |

    Went down to the New Era store on saturday here in new york, they are trying to clear out their merchandise of mlb caps (as is mlb.com it seems) because of the new hats that will be coming out in the spring, they are going to be harder and more durable the guy said, and he also mentioned that they might even be waterproof…anyone know anything further on this?

    razr

  • Anthony Verna | January 9, 2007 at 11:25 am |

    [quote comment=”39564″]
    In this case, advertising helps the consumer. In fact, to sit in the best seats to see Metallurg Magnitogorsk, one of the better Russian teams, it would cost you about $7.50 per ticket.[/quote]

    Advertising (the “pre-show countdown” which is a bunch of ads) at the movies hasn’t helped drop or stop the rising costs of tickets there.

  • Minna H. | January 9, 2007 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”39535″]I’m sure the subject has been discussed before, but am I the only one who thought OSU’s helmet stickers looked incredibly tacky last night? I’m not a fan of the concept to begin with, but after a season’s accumulation, it just looks pretty stupid.[/quote]

    Steve, it bothered me because the helmets that weren’t entirely filled seemed unfinished to me. One guy had all of one side filled and half of the other; I wanted to run out there and slap six or seven more decals on him to fill the empty space.

    It also bothered me that during the double Script Ohio (TM), the camera people were running in between the two scripts and ruining the visuals.

    Howewer, neither of those bothered me more than Ohio State laying a big egg during the PenzoilSuperAmericaMegaMallKrispyKreme National Championship–that was the worst sight of all.

  • Minna H. | January 9, 2007 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”39567″]Count me among those who liked the spoke-striped ref uniform. . . minus the gaudy stuff.[/quote]

    Anthony, we agree again. If they got rid of the adverts, they would have something there.

  • Teebz | January 9, 2007 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”39569″][quote comment=”39564″]
    In this case, advertising helps the consumer. In fact, to sit in the best seats to see Metallurg Magnitogorsk, one of the better Russian teams, it would cost you about $7.50 per ticket.[/quote]

    Advertising (the “pre-show countdown” which is a bunch of ads) at the movies hasn’t helped drop or stop the rising costs of tickets there.[/quote]

    That’s why I wrote “[i]n this case”. I agree with your assessment of movie theatres in North America. :o)

  • Jason | January 9, 2007 at 11:36 am |

    The Russian Elite League would be much higher than AHL level. It is considered the second-best hockey league in the world (unofficially). The Swedish Elite League, the Finnish SM-liiga, and the Swiss Elite League would be around the AHL level, although they generally have higher calibre of play. The German Elite League would be equal to or slightly below the AHL. Since not much is spoken about the Czech Extra League, I would take a shot and lump it in with the Swedish, Finnish, and Swiss Leagues. If Jagr went home to play there, it can’t be that bad

    Thanks for the info. I’m learning a ton. I have no problem with ‘logo creep’ as it were, if it helps the consumer, regardless of aethetics. Do you have any idea what players in these leagues are paid (U.S. equiv.)? Are the leagues considered strictly developmental, or are they similar to Independant League baseball, which is often a mix of young players still holding out hope that they will make it, and older guys just playing a sport they enjoy while they’re still reasonably talented?

  • Anthony Verna | January 9, 2007 at 11:37 am |

    Ah, yes, Minna. . .

    Since it was sponsored by Tostitos. . . junk food sponsoring an athletic even (Mickey D’s counts here).

    Some Tostitos nutritional information:
    Tostitos Light: http://fritolay.com/...
    Baked Tostitos: http://tostitos.com/...
    Tostitos. . .Multigrain? http://www.fritolay....
    Regular: http://fritolay.com/...

  • Kenny | January 9, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”39563″][quote comment=”39541″][quote comment=”39529″]#30 for the Gators last night, Earl Everett was wearing only one Nike plastered sleeve.Also his helmet flew off while making a sack on Troy Smith. Perhaps a chinstrap malfunction?[/quote]

    Since they replayed that over and over again during the game, what I think happened was not a chinstrap malfunction, but when he ducked his head a little bit and got hit/grabbed on the back of the helmet it just slid off…most of the time when this happens, it’s with the guys who have a lot of hair (long/dreadlocks)[/quote]

    Not to get picky, but those aren’t “dreadlocks.” These are dreadlocks. Those are braids.[/quote]

    But you get the idea

  • Philly Bill | January 9, 2007 at 11:42 am |

    [quote comment=”39559″]We should also keep in mind that this behavior is not isolated in Europe, or even overseas–it can be seen in some american sports as well.[/quote]

    Good point. Hopefully the Euro hockey players don’t feel compelled to mention all their sponsors in interviews as well…

    Good to see that former Flyer and Hurricane — and swell guy by all accounts — Kent Manderville is still playing in the Finnish Elite League: http://farm1.static....

    Thanks for the discount codes, Todd. Paul, please consider this opportunity to replace those soccer cleats you play softball in!

  • Metsfan AZ | January 9, 2007 at 11:43 am |

    [quote comment=”39570″][quote comment=”39535″]I’m sure the subject has been discussed before, but am I the only one who thought OSU’s helmet stickers looked incredibly tacky last night? I’m not a fan of the concept to begin with, but after a season’s accumulation, it just looks pretty stupid.[/quote]

    Steve, it bothered me because the helmets that weren’t entirely filled seemed unfinished to me. One guy had all of one side filled and half of the other; I wanted to run out there and slap six or seven more decals on him to fill the empty space.

    It also bothered me that during the double Script Ohio (TM), the camera people were running in between the two scripts and ruining the visuals.

    Howewer, neither of those bothered me more than Ohio State laying a big egg during the PenzoilSuperAmericaMegaMallKrispyKreme National Championship–that was the worst sight of all.[/quote]
    The Fox telecast here in AZ went to commercial during the OSU band’s performance. The only thing I was looking forward to during halftime.
    BTW – glad you got the mag, I hear if you look real hard there are some articles in there.

  • Minna H. | January 9, 2007 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”39578″]Ah, yes, Minna. . .

    Since it was sponsored by Tostitos. . . junk food sponsoring an athletic even (Mickey D’s counts here).

    Some Tostitos nutritional information:
    Tostitos Light: http://fritolay.com/...
    Baked Tostitos: http://tostitos.com/...
    Tostitos. . .Multigrain? http://www.fritolay....
    Regular: http://fritolay.com/...

    That makes the word for the day: irony. Or oxymoron. Tostitos aren’t THAT bad for you—better than MickeyD’s. I don’t like the McDonald’s socks, but I like the Golden Arches a millimeter better than I like the Swoosh (which isn’t saying much).

  • Jonathon | January 9, 2007 at 11:45 am |

    What jerseys are Ripken and Gwynn wearing in the photo on the ESPN Baseball homepage?

    http://sports-ak.esp...

  • Teebz | January 9, 2007 at 11:46 am |

    Having received the offer from MLB.com, I was perusing the online aisles of MLB.com’s shop. It was there that I noticed this cap.

    Now I don’t want to rain on Cleveland’s heritage, but doesn’t that cap look like it should be part of this team’s apparel? According to the info on MLB.com, Cleveland wore this hat from 1959-1961, 1963-64, and 1970-71.

  • BCrisp | January 9, 2007 at 11:49 am |

    You didn;t miss much in tOSU’s band. They were playing Titanic. Formed a ship and sunk it when the band hid underneath blue tarps.
    Pretty ironic considering their football team this year.

  • Minna H. | January 9, 2007 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”39584″]
    The Fox telecast here in AZ went to commercial during the OSU band’s performance. The only thing I was looking forward to during halftime.
    BTW – glad you got the mag, I hear if you look real hard there are some articles in there.[/quote]

    The double script Ohio was before the game. I was flipping channels like mad by halftime out of disgust.

    You say there are articles in the magazine, but all I saw were emaciated pretty boys staring blankly back at me. Doesn’t matter. It has Troy P. half-dressed and I found him after a diligent search; that is all that matters.

  • Kenny | January 9, 2007 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”39587″]Having received the offer from MLB.com, I was perusing the online aisles of MLB.com’s shop. It was there that I noticed this cap.

    Now I don’t want to rain on Cleveland’s heritage, but doesn’t that cap look like it should be part of this team’s apparel? According to the info on MLB.com, Cleveland wore this hat from 1959-1961, 1963-64, and 1970-71.[/quote]

    Or how about these guys Teebz

  • Minna H. | January 9, 2007 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”39589″]You didn;t miss much in tOSU’s band. They were playing Titanic. Formed a ship and sunk it when the band hid underneath blue tarps.
    Pretty ironic considering their football team this year.[/quote]

    Hmm. I kinda wish I had seen this. That will teach me to ignore halftime.

  • Jonathon | January 9, 2007 at 11:52 am |

    [quote comment=”39525″][quote comment=”39505″] Some uni observations from last night’s BCS game-
    Florida’s uniforms were way too busy with TWO patches. The SEC patch got cut in favor of the BCS Championship patch and their 100th anniversary patch. Is that 100 years of football? And on the subject of the patch, unlike in Europe, we in the US are very against on-uniform advertisements, but having “Tostitos” on the patch seems to be okay.[/quote]

    Actually, it looks like they are wearing THREE patches. There is an SEC patch where the v-neck meets. I’ve never seen this type of conference patch before. It’s just the standard NCAA patch with the conference name replacing “NCAA.” Did other teams do this during the season?[/quote]

    Auburn wears a similar pennant patch with “SEC” inscribed. Florida is unique in that it’s placed in the center of the jersey. All SEC teams must wear an SEC patch, either on their jersey or on their helmet.

    http://sports.websho...

  • Timmy D | January 9, 2007 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”39586″]What jerseys are Ripken and Gwynn wearing in the photo on the ESPN Baseball homepage?

    http://sports-ak.esp...

    I was just about to ask the same question. Gwynn’s uniform looks very weird so I looked at Dressed to the Nines and there was no match for that uniform. They had pinstripes starting in 1985 but the “Padres” was not in script. Also I did not see a brown hat with white “SD” on it. It is completely foreign. Anyone else know about this?

  • Timmy D | January 9, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”39594″][quote comment=”39586″]What jerseys are Ripken and Gwynn wearing in the photo on the ESPN Baseball homepage?

    http://sports-ak.esp...

    I was just about to ask the same question. Gwynn’s uniform looks very weird so I looked at Dressed to the Nines and there was no match for that uniform. They had pinstripes starting in 1985 but the “Padres” was not in script. Also I did not see a brown hat with white “SD” on it. It is completely foreign. Anyone else know about this?[/quote]

    Plus Ripken is wearing pinstripes that have a shade that is very close to Gwynn’s uniform.

  • Metsfan AZ | January 9, 2007 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”39589″]You didn;t miss much in tOSU’s band. They were playing Titanic. Formed a ship and sunk it when the band hid underneath blue tarps.
    Pretty ironic considering their football team this year.[/quote]
    Is that what that was???? I saw that part and then the commercials started. I just wanted to see someone dot the i.

  • Teebz | January 9, 2007 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”39591″][quote comment=”39587″]Having received the offer from MLB.com, I was perusing the online aisles of MLB.com’s shop. It was there that I noticed this cap.

    Now I don’t want to rain on Cleveland’s heritage, but doesn’t that cap look like it should be part of this team’s apparel? According to the info on MLB.com, Cleveland wore this hat from 1959-1961, 1963-64, and 1970-71.[/quote]

    Or how about these guys Teebz[/quote]

    Maybe the state of Ohio was running out of ideas in the late 1960s and early 1970s?

    The Reds and Indians have the same logo as the Chicago Bears, and Cleveland wears the same colours. It reeks of a lawsuit for infringement. :o)

  • Kevin Z | January 9, 2007 at 12:00 pm |

    I went to the George Mason-UNC Wilmington game last night and Mason wore their new yellow alternate jerseys (which I think look good). One thing I noticed was how much room there appears to be at the underarm. The jersey seems to hang or drape down a lot more than something standard like this.

  • BCrisp | January 9, 2007 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”39596″][quote comment=”39589″]You didn;t miss much in tOSU’s band. They were playing Titanic. Formed a ship and sunk it when the band hid underneath blue tarps.
    Pretty ironic considering their football team this year.[/quote]
    Is that what that was???? I saw that part and then the commercials started. I just wanted to see someone dot the i.[/quote]
    I was in The Fightin’ Texas Aggie Band for 4 years. That’s what it looked like tOSU was doing on TV to me. Did they know they were going to be on national TV doing that, and playing a bad song from 7 years ago?

  • Nolan | January 9, 2007 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”39595″][quote comment=”39594″][quote comment=”39586″]What jerseys are Ripken and Gwynn wearing in the photo on the ESPN Baseball homepage?

    http://sports-ak.esp...

    I was just about to ask the same question. Gwynn’s uniform looks very weird so I looked at Dressed to the Nines and there was no match for that uniform. They had pinstripes starting in 1985 but the “Padres” was not in script. Also I did not see a brown hat with white “SD” on it. It is completely foreign. Anyone else know about this?[/quote]

    Plus Ripken is wearing pinstripes that have a shade that is very close to Gwynn’s uniform.[/quote]
    My first thought was they were color changed maybe to a sepia tone? But Ripkin’s pinstripes are confusing.

  • Minna H. | January 9, 2007 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”39596″][quote comment=”39589″]You didn;t miss much in tOSU’s band. They were playing Titanic. Formed a ship and sunk it when the band hid underneath blue tarps.
    Pretty ironic considering their football team this year.[/quote]
    Is that what that was???? I saw that part and then the commercials started. I just wanted to see someone dot the i.[/quote]

    Then you should have watched the pregame show. I normally don’t, but I was already watching tv and didn’t want to turn it off for fifteen minutes and come back again. You could have seen a double dotting! And camera people ruining it. Where is Kenny Rogers when you need him?

  • Philly Bill | January 9, 2007 at 12:07 pm |

    Yeah, I think it’s a bit of artistic license to make those two look “pure” compared to the “steroid cheats” of modern times. Look how slouchy the caps are — Gwynn and Ripken never wore those on a regular basis in the majors.

    Not uni-related, but mind-blowing nonetheless: http://www.timothygo.... Apparently this, uh, minor gaffe slipped through on SI.com Saturday night.

    HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!

  • DarkAudit | January 9, 2007 at 12:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”39512″]it was mentioned last week in the steve yzerman article that their hanging banners were replace with newer, more accurate banners.
    UNC has gone under a similar facelift, replacing ALL the smith center banners. retired/honored jerseys, championship, etc.
    before
    after

    the smith center is finishing up its renovation…
    if you guys are looking for any gift ideas for me…
    i’ll take this[/quote]

    The after pic returns just a blank page.

  • jesse | January 9, 2007 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”39596″][quote comment=”39589″]You didn;t miss much in tOSU’s band. They were playing Titanic. Formed a ship and sunk it when the band hid underneath blue tarps.
    Pretty ironic considering their football team this year.[/quote]
    Is that what that was???? I saw that part and then the commercials started. I just wanted to see someone dot the i.[/quote]

    Maybe one of the Buckey fans can answer this, does the OSU Band only do double script Ohio on the road, and regular script ohio at home? Or do they rotate it. I’ve seen them do double script at Beaver Stadium a few times, but never the regular one. I expected regular script Ohio last night, but got double script. The highlite of the evening for the Buckeyes. I think the double script looks cooler.

  • todd krevanchi | January 9, 2007 at 12:08 pm |

    the double script ohio was unbelievable!
    its just one of those things in sports that is neat to see/be a part of.

    the fact that there have been only 6 non-senior sousaphone playing individuals who have ever dotted the eye in the history of the band is also something refreshing. the band could easily auction the opportunity to do that at home games to raise funds. can you imagine how much they would get for the home michigan game?

  • Anthony Verna | January 9, 2007 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”39585″]That makes the word for the day: irony. Or oxymoron. Tostitos aren’t THAT bad for you—better than MickeyD’s. I don’t like the McDonald’s socks, but I like the Golden Arches a millimeter better than I like the Swoosh (which isn’t saying much).[/quote]

    True – if you stick to one ounce of Tostitos. You know anyone who does?

  • WVU Tom | January 9, 2007 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”39595″][quote comment=”39594″][quote comment=”39586″]What jerseys are Ripken and Gwynn wearing in the photo on the ESPN Baseball homepage?

    http://sports-ak.esp...

    I was just about to ask the same question. Gwynn’s uniform looks very weird so I looked at Dressed to the Nines and there was no match for that uniform. They had pinstripes starting in 1985 but the “Padres” was not in script. Also I did not see a brown hat with white “SD” on it. It is completely foreign. Anyone else know about this?[/quote]

    Plus Ripken is wearing pinstripes that have a shade that is very close to Gwynn’s uniform.[/quote]

    And I don’t think he ever wore that hat either.

  • Timmy D | January 9, 2007 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”39601″][quote comment=”39595″][quote comment=”39594″][quote comment=”39586″]What jerseys are Ripken and Gwynn wearing in the photo on the ESPN Baseball homepage?

    http://sports-ak.esp...

    I was just about to ask the same question. Gwynn’s uniform looks very weird so I looked at Dressed to the Nines and there was no match for that uniform. They had pinstripes starting in 1985 but the “Padres” was not in script. Also I did not see a brown hat with white “SD” on it. It is completely foreign. Anyone else know about this?[/quote]

    Plus Ripken is wearing pinstripes that have a shade that is very close to Gwynn’s uniform.[/quote]
    My first thought was they were color changed maybe to a sepia tone? But Ripkin’s pinstripes are confusing.[/quote]

    Looking at it some more there was a script uniform for the Padres…the ones they have now. Gwynn is not wearing that uniform though, the P’s are different and the d and the r are the same height in the unis now, they are different heights on the Gwynn uniform. They also had script with their 70’s unis but the script on those unis are on an angle and the uniform Gwynn is wearing is pretty straight across. Plus that SD on the hat still looks odd to me. It looks too big and has too much space between the letters, the ones now are the only ones that have had a white s and a white d and they are also the contemporary unis, but their s/d interlocking is much more compact. Still a big mystery to me.

  • Anthony Verna | January 9, 2007 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”39607″]the double script ohio was unbelievable!
    its just one of those things in sports that is neat to see/be a part of.

    the fact that there have been only 6 non-senior sousaphone playing individuals who have ever dotted the eye in the history of the band is also something refreshing. the band could easily auction the opportunity to do that at home games to raise funds. can you imagine how much they would get for the home michigan game?[/quote]

    Since I play tuba, I’d buy the spot for the hell of it!

  • Metsfan AZ | January 9, 2007 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”39607″]the double script ohio was unbelievable!
    its just one of those things in sports that is neat to see/be a part of.

    the fact that there have been only 6 non-senior sousaphone playing individuals who have ever dotted the eye in the history of the band is also something refreshing. the band could easily auction the opportunity to do that at home games to raise funds. can you imagine how much they would get for the home michigan game?[/quote]
    Imagine a Mighigan booster buying it and giving it to a sousaphone player for UM!

  • todd krevanchi | January 9, 2007 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”39605″][quote comment=”39512″]it was mentioned last week in the steve yzerman article that their hanging banners were replace with newer, more accurate banners.
    UNC has gone under a similar facelift, replacing ALL the smith center banners. retired/honored jerseys, championship, etc.
    before
    after

    the smith center is finishing up its renovation…
    if you guys are looking for any gift ideas for me…
    i’ll take this[/quote]

    The after pic returns just a blank page.[/quote]

    sorry!
    http://i3.tinypic.co...

  • Ian K | January 9, 2007 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”39584″][quote comment=”39570″][quote comment=”39535″]I’m sure the subject has been discussed before, but am I the only one who thought OSU’s helmet stickers looked incredibly tacky last night? I’m not a fan of the concept to begin with, but after a season’s accumulation, it just looks pretty stupid.[/quote]

    Steve, it bothered me because the helmets that weren’t entirely filled seemed unfinished to me. One guy had all of one side filled and half of the other; I wanted to run out there and slap six or seven more decals on him to fill the empty space.

    It also bothered me that during the double Script Ohio (TM), the camera people were running in between the two scripts and ruining the visuals.

    Howewer, neither of those bothered me more than Ohio State laying a big egg during the PenzoilSuperAmericaMegaMallKrispyKreme National Championship–that was the worst sight of all.[/quote]
    The Fox telecast here in AZ went to commercial during the OSU band’s performance. The only thing I was looking forward to during halftime.
    BTW – glad you got the mag, I hear if you look real hard there are some articles in there.[/quote]

    I noticed that as well. I’m also surprised Fox didn’t bring out Justin Timberlake or something to perform at halftime like ABC did last year. I really wanted to watch the band spell the script Ohio but instead I had to listen to the trainwreck that was Emmitt Smith as a TV analyst.

  • todd krevanchi | January 9, 2007 at 12:23 pm |

    not sure if anyone has been to the fiesta bowl at all, but in 96 when i went, they gave out free souvenir cups filled with tostitos and little salsa cups… unlimited trips. they had high school kids, grabbing cup after cup and just filling them with product and setting them on tables.
    my group i think walked away with like 50 cups that night…
    i remember mentioning that i wanted to go to the NOKIA sugar bowl the next year and get a phone for nothing.

    one side note. at the army/navy game this year, a phone sponsor (att maybe?) gave away a $20 phone card to all current army and navy cadets/middies in attendance. all they had to do was go to one of a few different redemption centers at the linc and provide evidence they were active.

  • Matthew S. | January 9, 2007 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”39535″]I’m sure the subject has been discussed before, but am I the only one who thought OSU’s helmet stickers looked incredibly tacky last night? I’m not a fan of the concept to begin with, but after a season’s accumulation, it just looks pretty stupid.[/quote]

    You definitely would not like some Texas high school football teams. In the 5A-Div. 1 championship between Southlake Carroll and Austin Westlake a few weeks ago, both teams were rocking crazy amounts of helmet stickers. Westlake players were especially original. One player had arranged his helmet stickers to form a ‘W’ on the back of his helmet while another used them to (presumably with the help of red and blue markers) create a Texas flag on the back of his.

    Westlake from earlier in the season: http://static.flickr...

    The interesting thing is that the star QB for Westlake didn’t wear any helmet stickers at all during the season: http://www.cactusran...

    Southlake players tended, I also noticed, to wear their stickers predominantly on the back of their helmets. Couldn’t find any pictures though.

  • todd krevanchi | January 9, 2007 at 12:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”39618″]
    The interesting thing is that the star QB for Westlake didn’t wear any helmet stickers at all during the season: quote]

    that is a refreshing “act like youve been there before” attitude. especially for a high school student. he doesnt need stickers on his helmet to know, or to let everyone else know that he is good.

  • maximumK | January 9, 2007 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”39606″][quote comment=”39596″][quote comment=”39589″]You didn;t miss much in tOSU’s band. They were playing Titanic. Formed a ship and sunk it when the band hid underneath blue tarps.
    Pretty ironic considering their football team this year.[/quote]
    Is that what that was???? I saw that part and then the commercials started. I just wanted to see someone dot the i.[/quote]

    Maybe one of the Buckey fans can answer this, does the OSU Band only do double script Ohio on the road, and regular script ohio at home? Or do they rotate it. I’ve seen them do double script at Beaver Stadium a few times, but never the regular one. I expected regular script Ohio last night, but got double script. The highlite of the evening for the Buckeyes. I think the double script looks cooler.[/quote]

    From what I’ve seen of that band, they seem to multiply the number of scripts for big games. I think they usually do the Double at big bowl games, and maybe some big games at the ‘shoe. The coolest thing i’ve seen was the QUAD Script at homecoming one year. The alumni band did the big scripts on the 50 and the Marching Band did the little scripts in the endzones.

    quad script

  • John Willmott | January 9, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    Pretty amusing front page image on ESPN.com today, inadvertently blurring out the swoosh on Chris Leak’s jersey with a well-timed piece of confetti.

  • todd krevanchi | January 9, 2007 at 12:44 pm |

    dammit!

    [quote comment=”39618″]The interesting thing is that the star QB for Westlake didn’t wear any helmet stickers at all during the season: [/quote]

    that is a refreshing “act like youve been there before” attitude. especially for a high school student. he doesnt need stickers on his helmet to know, or to let everyone else know that he is good.

  • Patrick O'Donnell | January 9, 2007 at 12:46 pm |

    Is there anything more annoying than people writing tOSU? That is the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen. How about tTEAMTHATGOTSPANKED? Give me a f*cking break. It’s dumb enough when people say it, but now they TYPE it too?

  • Minna H. | January 9, 2007 at 12:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”39621″]

    From what I’ve seen of that band, they seem to multiply the number of scripts for big games. I think they usually do the Double at big bowl games, and maybe some big games at the ‘shoe. The coolest thing i’ve seen was the QUAD Script at homecoming one year. The alumni band did the big scripts on the 50 and the Marching Band did the little scripts in the endzones.

    quad script[/quote]

    Cool. They have room for two more. Script Ohio 6, anyone?

  • maximumK | January 9, 2007 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”39625″]Is there anything more annoying than people writing tOSU? That is the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen. How about tTEAMTHATGOTSPANKED? Give me a f*cking break. It’s dumb enough when people say it, but now they TYPE it too?[/quote]

    I find it annoying too, as a member of a fellow Big Ten school. However the official name of the school is The Ohio State University. The rest of us may not like it, but that’s how it goes.

    Now, the one that kills me is “The Best Damn Band in the Land” (or TBDBITL). I like how the OSU band operates, but I wouldn’t go so far as to call them the best.

  • Rene | January 9, 2007 at 12:54 pm |

    on sunday nicco posted the following: Depending the competition, but for FIFA tournaments, only the GK can wear number 1. In the 86 World Cup, Argentina assigned number alphabetically, so Sergio Almirón, a forward, wore number 1, while the GK’s had 18 Nery Pumpido, 15 Luis Islas & 22 Héctor Zelada.

    i have to correctr this, the reason this cannot be is because the great diego maradonna wore #10 for that world cup as he always hasw and that would place his number (under niccos alphabet soup theory) b/ween 15 and 18 not 10…

  • dchis | January 9, 2007 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”39625″]Is there anything more annoying than people writing tOSU? That is the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen. How about tTEAMTHATGOTSPANKED? Give me a f*cking break. It’s dumb enough when people say it, but now they TYPE it too?[/quote]

    So it’s dumb to say the schools actual name?

  • Greg Riffenburgh | January 9, 2007 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”39504″]just to help out with some post xmas shopping,
    here are the most recent friends and family offers
    footlocker
    champs
    footaction

    go nuts![/quote]

    Thanks for that, but it looks like all the good stuff (read: Nike) is out of bounds. Thanks anyway friend. :)

    By the way, talk about great socks

  • Chad G | January 9, 2007 at 1:03 pm |

    As mentioned earlier

    Urban Meyer in the Nike leather jacket

    Not that great of a pic thoug, can’t see the swoosh.

  • Anthony Verna | January 9, 2007 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”39618″]
    The interesting thing is that the star QB for Westlake didn’t wear any helmet stickers at all during the season: http://www.cactusran...

    [/quote]
    Well, who throws the ball? There are 3 things that can happen when you throw the ball, and 2 of them are bad. Don’t you know that?

  • Matthew S. | January 9, 2007 at 1:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”39633″][quote comment=”39618″]
    The interesting thing is that the star QB for Westlake didn’t wear any helmet stickers at all during the season: http://www.cactusran...

    [/quote]
    Well, who throws the ball? There are 3 things that can happen when you throw the ball, and 2 of them are bad. Don’t you know that?[/quote]

    I’m not really following what you’re saying Anthony. But my point was that while the rest of his team had stickers covering their helmets, to the point of obscuring the Westlake ‘W’ in some cases, the starting senior QB had no stickers that I could see.

    I’ll keep looking for pictures of the game itself to see if I can provide some visual evidence.

  • jesse | January 9, 2007 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”39630″][quote comment=”39625″]Is there anything more annoying than people writing tOSU? That is the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen. How about tTEAMTHATGOTSPANKED? Give me a f*cking break. It’s dumb enough when people say it, but now they TYPE it too?[/quote]

    So it’s dumb to say the schools actual name?[/quote]

    We actually had this fight the day before the Michigan game. The general feeling was that yes, going out of your way to say THE Ohio State University, every single time you reference the school, was, in fact, dumb.

  • nico | January 9, 2007 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”39629″]on sunday nicco posted the following: Depending the competition, but for FIFA tournaments, only the GK can wear number 1. In the 86 World Cup, Argentina assigned number alphabetically, so Sergio Almirón, a forward, wore number 1, while the GK’s had 18 Nery Pumpido, 15 Luis Islas & 22 Héctor Zelada.

    i have to correctr this, the reason this cannot be is because the great diego maradonna wore #10 for that world cup as he always hasw and that would place his number (under niccos alphabet soup theory) b/ween 15 and 18 not 10…[/quote]

    Check out the complete roster for that world cup:
    1 Sergio Omar Almirón
    2 Sergio Batista
    3 Ricardo Enrique Bochini
    4 Claudio Borghi
    5 José Luis Brown
    6 Daniel Passarella
    7 Jorge Burruchaga
    8 Néstor Clausen
    9 José Luis Cuciuffo
    10 Diego Maradona
    11 Jorge Valdano
    12 Héctor Enrique
    13 Oscar Garré
    14 Ricardo Giusti
    15 Luis Islas
    16 Julio Olarticoechea
    17 Pedro Pablo Pasculli
    18 Nery Pumpido
    19 Oscar Ruggeri
    20 Carlos Daniel Tapia
    21 Marcelo Trobbiani
    22 Héctor Miguel Zelada

    Only Passarella(6), Maradona(10) and Valdano(11) don’t follow the rule, but the rest of the squad does. They did the same for the ’78 World Cup.

  • BCrisp | January 9, 2007 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”39625″]Is there anything more annoying than people writing tOSU? That is the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen. How about tTEAMTHATGOTSPANKED? Give me a f*cking break. It’s dumb enough when people say it, but now they TYPE it too?[/quote]
    Relax there buddy…Being a Big 12 guy I have to have some way to type Oklahome Sate University and Ohio State University with acronyms and without confusion. tOSU is just a habit from forums, etc.
    I could care less about “The” but need to make a difference somehow.

  • Matthew S. | January 9, 2007 at 1:20 pm |

    Ok, found some pictures now.

    These are from the title game on 12/23 in Texas Stadium. Southlake Carroll in green and black and Austin Westlake in white and red with blue trim.

    http://thewestlakech...
    http://thewestlakech...

    check out the ‘E’ the Westlake player has on the back of his helmet: http://thewestlakech...

    see what I mean about helmet stickers almost obscuring the helmet logo? (Westlake player on the far left): http://thewestlakech...

    and look at the sticker craziness on #69 for Southlake Carroll: http://thewestlakech...

    Anyway, for those of you who hate helmet stickers those pictures will be eyesores. Those of you who like them will be in a state nearing nirvana.

    There’s literally hundreds of pictures in scrollable galleries here: http://thewestlakech...

  • Florian | January 9, 2007 at 1:22 pm |

    http://i3.tinypic.co...

    Any numbers left to assign?

  • WVU Tom | January 9, 2007 at 1:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”39617″]not sure if anyone has been to the fiesta bowl at all, but in 96 when i went, they gave out free souvenir cups filled with tostitos and little salsa cups… unlimited trips. they had high school kids, grabbing cup after cup and just filling them with product and setting them on tables.
    my group i think walked away with like 50 cups that night…
    i remember mentioning that i wanted to go to the NOKIA sugar bowl the next year and get a phone for nothing.

    one side note. at the army/navy game this year, a phone sponsor (att maybe?) gave away a $20 phone card to all current army and navy cadets/middies in attendance. all they had to do was go to one of a few different redemption centers at the linc and provide evidence they were active.[/quote]

    I was at the “Nokia” Sugar Bowl last year (my screen name should tell you why), and I didn’t get a free phone, or anything else for that matter. I was happy with the outcome of the game though.

  • Banker Bill | January 9, 2007 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”39638″][quote comment=”39625″]Is there anything more annoying than people writing tOSU? That is the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen. How about tTEAMTHATGOTSPANKED? Give me a f*cking break. It’s dumb enough when people say it, but now they TYPE it too?[/quote]
    Relax there buddy…Being a Big 12 guy I have to have some way to type Oklahome Sate University and Ohio State University with acronyms and without confusion. tOSU is just a habit from forums, etc.
    I could care less about “The” but need to make a difference somehow.[/quote]

    If everything had to be that exact, ESPN and FOx or whoever would have to abbreviate Arte Moreno’s baseball team as LAAoA – which is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as referring to the “Mighty Ducks of Anaheim” the first years of their existence.

  • Jonathon | January 9, 2007 at 1:26 pm |

    best use of arched lettering i’ve seen in a while:

    http://sportsillustr...

  • WVU Tom | January 9, 2007 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”39644″][quote comment=”39617″]not sure if anyone has been to the fiesta bowl at all, but in 96 when i went, they gave out free souvenir cups filled with tostitos and little salsa cups… unlimited trips. they had high school kids, grabbing cup after cup and just filling them with product and setting them on tables.
    my group i think walked away with like 50 cups that night…
    i remember mentioning that i wanted to go to the NOKIA sugar bowl the next year and get a phone for nothing.

    one side note. at the army/navy game this year, a phone sponsor (att maybe?) gave away a $20 phone card to all current army and navy cadets/middies in attendance. all they had to do was go to one of a few different redemption centers at the linc and provide evidence they were active.[/quote]

    I was at the “Nokia” Sugar Bowl last year (my screen name should tell you why), and I didn’t get a free phone, or anything else for that matter. I was happy with the outcome of the game though.[/quote]

    …in addition, I was also at the “Toyota” Gator Bowl this year, and just in case anyone is curious, I did not get a new free truck!

  • Teebz | January 9, 2007 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”39577″]
    Thanks for the info. I’m learning a ton. I have no problem with ‘logo creep’ as it were, if it helps the consumer, regardless of aethetics. Do you have any idea what players in these leagues are paid (U.S. equiv.)? Are the leagues considered strictly developmental, or are they similar to Independant League baseball, which is often a mix of young players still holding out hope that they will make it, and older guys just playing a sport they enjoy while they’re still reasonably talented?[/quote]

    Salary disclosure over in Europe isn’t common. The Russian Super League has no disclosure, but it has been said that some players receive millions in American dollars for playing there.

    However, in my searches on the ‘Net, I came up with nothing in terms of concrete salaries. There are some leagues that provide players with a rent-free apartment, a new car, and a salary. I know this happens in the Swiss Elite League and the Swedish Elite League. Is it disclosed as part of their salary? No clue.

    As for being developmental, it depends on how you view it. As a fan, they are not a developmental leagues, but there are former NHLers doing very well over there. Patrick Lebeau, Sylvain Turgeon, and Rick DiPietro, all former Montreal Canadiens, have all played over there and done very well for themselves.

    As a GM from an NHL team, this is where you’ll find NHL-ready, unsigned veteran players if you’re looking. This is also where you scout the younger Europeans who are draft-eligible who aren’t in the CHL. The Sedin twins were products of the Swedish Elite League, as was Markus Naslund and Peter Forsberg when they were drafted. Ilya Kovalchuk is a Russian Elite League graduate. Mark Streit of the Montreal Canadiens is a Swiss Elite League graduate, although he played all over Europe before Montreal signed him as a free agent.

  • Anthony Verna | January 9, 2007 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”39634″][quote comment=”39633″][quote comment=”39618″]
    The interesting thing is that the star QB for Westlake didn’t wear any helmet stickers at all during the season: http://www.cactusran...

    [/quote]
    Well, who throws the ball? There are 3 things that can happen when you throw the ball, and 2 of them are bad. Don’t you know that?[/quote]

    I’m not really following what you’re saying Anthony. But my point was that while the rest of his team had stickers covering their helmets, to the point of obscuring the Westlake ‘W’ in some cases, the starting senior QB had no stickers that I could see.

    I’ll keep looking for pictures of the game itself to see if I can provide some visual evidence.[/quote]

    I was being completely silly in saying that the QB can’t have any stickers since when you throw, it might be an interception or an incomplete pass.

  • jesse | January 9, 2007 at 1:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”39645″][quote comment=”39638″][quote comment=”39625″]Is there anything more annoying than people writing tOSU? That is the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen. How about tTEAMTHATGOTSPANKED? Give me a f*cking break. It’s dumb enough when people say it, but now they TYPE it too?[/quote]
    Relax there buddy…Being a Big 12 guy I have to have some way to type Oklahome Sate University and Ohio State University with acronyms and without confusion. tOSU is just a habit from forums, etc.
    I could care less about “The” but need to make a difference somehow.[/quote]

    If everything had to be that exact, ESPN and FOx or whoever would have to abbreviate Arte Moreno’s baseball team as LAAoA – which is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as referring to the “Mighty Ducks of Anaheim” the first years of their existence.[/quote]

    Here is the way I understand it. Once upon a time, a man by the name of Gee was president of Ohio State. As a way to increase pride in the school (more academically than athletically) he made an edict that alumni and students should refer to it as The Ohio State University, rather than Ohio State or OSU, theory being it sounds “smarter”. Pitt did the same thing a few years back, but it never stuck (University of Pittsburgh or Pittsburgh versus Pitt).

    While Mr. Gee’s motives were pure, students at other schools in Ohio, and there are several, many with much better academic reputations, found the consistent reference as THE Ohio State University to be obnoxious. THE being interpreted as singular, and therefore better than everybody else.

    Finally, football players at from OSU do the THE thing when they do their introductions during NFL games, it sounds remarkably like when players from Miami do their “the U” stunt. It makes them look like jerks, it really does. Despite this, Ohio State fans get very defensive about it and defend it. If I went to Ohio State I probably would too.

  • Mike Kemezis | January 9, 2007 at 1:41 pm |

    Did anyone else notice that you could see Troy Smith’s jock strap through his pants. Im not sure if anyone else bought this up. It was easy to see in the begining of the game.

  • Jason | January 9, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    I was being completely silly in saying that the QB can’t have any stickers since when you throw, it might be an interception or an incomplete pass.

    Or it could be picked up off the ground and run 35 yards the other direction, thank you Chad Pennington!

  • Ryan | January 9, 2007 at 1:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”39532″]OK, I’m a Euro-hockey buffoon. What would these club team be comparable to in the U.S.? Would they be IHL/AHL level, or more along the lines of the USHL (Green Bay Gamblers, Sioux Falls Stampede, etc…), or better, or worse. Just curious.[/quote]

    Hmmm, well this is how the leagues are stacked, from the top to bottom

    NHL
    AHL
    ECHL, UHL, CHL
    USHL, SPHL and other developmental leagues

    The IHL died off a few years back… my Admirals (who’s new logo sucks, btw) used to be in the IHL… sigh, rest in peace… but yeah, top Euro leagues would be comparable to the AHL… I know a lot of guys who go back and forth between Europe and the AHL

  • Matthew S. | January 9, 2007 at 1:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”39650″][quote comment=”39634″][quote comment=”39633″][quote comment=”39618″]
    The interesting thing is that the star QB for Westlake didn’t wear any helmet stickers at all during the season: http://www.cactusran...

    [/quote]
    Well, who throws the ball? There are 3 things that can happen when you throw the ball, and 2 of them are bad. Don’t you know that?[/quote]

    I’m not really following what you’re saying Anthony. But my point was that while the rest of his team had stickers covering their helmets, to the point of obscuring the Westlake ‘W’ in some cases, the starting senior QB had no stickers that I could see.

    I’ll keep looking for pictures of the game itself to see if I can provide some visual evidence.[/quote]

    I was being completely silly in saying that the QB can’t have any stickers since when you throw, it might be an interception or an incomplete pass.[/quote]

    Gotcha. I’m a little slow on the uptake this morning.

    Nick Foles is the QB for Westlake. I’m sure there’s some reason that he chose not to wear helmet stickers, but I have no idea what it is. I think I read that he’s committed to Arizona State, so he can’t be too bad.

    There’s a new crop of quarterbacks coming from Texas. Vince Young is a graduate of Madison H.S. in Houston, Georgia QB Matt Stafford led Dallas Highland Park to the 5A state title in 2005, and now apparently this Westlake kid is pretty good. I saw him throw a perfect TD pass during the title game; gliding it perfectly off to the side of the endzone where only his receiver could get it. And he did this while rolling out. Very impressive to watch.

  • Anthony Verna | January 9, 2007 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”39654″]I was being completely silly in saying that the QB can’t have any stickers since when you throw, it might be an interception or an incomplete pass.

    Or it could be picked up off the ground and run 35 yards the other direction, thank you Chad Pennington![/quote]

    Now, now. If you’re a Jets fan, I don’t think you have much to complain about. The team was expected to go nowhere, but Pennington (heartthrob of my friend Jody who went to Marshall) returns healthy, the coach is much better than expected, and the team has a 10-win season. That one play won’t mean much in the long-run.

  • Metsfan AZ | January 9, 2007 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”39652″]Did anyone else notice that you could see Troy Smith’s jock strap through his pants. Im not sure if anyone else bought this up. It was easy to see in the begining of the game.[/quote]
    I thought all of their pants looked like that. and who wears a jock strap anymore? i thought anyone younger than 35 wore compression shorts now.

  • Jay Palmer | January 9, 2007 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”39658″][quote comment=”39654″]I was being completely silly in saying that the QB can’t have any stickers since when you throw, it might be an interception or an incomplete pass.

    Or it could be picked up off the ground and run 35 yards the other direction, thank you Chad Pennington![/quote]

    Now, now. If you’re a Jets fan, I don’t think you have much to complain about. The team was expected to go nowhere, but Pennington (heartthrob of my friend Jody who went to Marshall) returns healthy, the coach is much better than expected, and the team has a 10-win season. That one play won’t mean much in the long-run.[/quote]

    Very true…in an overall view of the situation.

    However, for all of us that bleed the green, this cost us a very real shot at winning a very difficult game and in that moment I was not thinking about next year, Mangini, or Chad’s Comeback Player of the Year award.

    I WANTED TO WIN!!!

  • Pat | January 9, 2007 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”39645″][quote comment=”39638″][quote comment=”39625″]Is there anything more annoying than people writing tOSU? That is the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen. How about tTEAMTHATGOTSPANKED? Give me a f*cking break. It’s dumb enough when people say it, but now they TYPE it too?[/quote]
    Relax there buddy…Being a Big 12 guy I have to have some way to type Oklahome Sate University and Ohio State University with acronyms and without confusion. tOSU is just a habit from forums, etc.
    I could care less about “The” but need to make a difference somehow.[/quote]

    If everything had to be that exact, ESPN and FOx or whoever would have to abbreviate Arte Moreno’s baseball team as LAAoA – which is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as referring to the “Mighty Ducks of Anaheim” the first years of their existence.[/quote]

    This has got to be the stupidest argument. Here’s why it’s called tOSU. We all know that. And, is someone REALLY that upset that they need to go on a profane rant about how stupid it is? I, personally, think it’s clever that they have added one simple word, possibly the most commonly used word in the english language, to the front of their nameand gave themselves a little more swagger by doing so. But, I think it’s absolutely hilarious that so many people take offense to it. I wish they would statr printing t-shirts that students and alumni could wear that says THE Ohio State University. I wish they would fly planes over the entire country that says THE Ohio State University. Just so I could laugh at the people that are offended by it.

    OK, a little hyperbole, but I still would like to know WHY people take it so seriously when someone writes about tOSU?

  • Anthony Verna | January 9, 2007 at 2:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”39661″]I wish they would statr printing t-shirts that students and alumni could wear that says THE Ohio State University. I wish they would fly planes over the entire country that says THE Ohio State University. Just so I could laugh at the people that are offended by it.
    [/quote]

    Then again, I went to Case Western Reserve University, which printed t-shirts that said, “a tradition of excellence even longer than our name.”

  • Vince Grzegorek | January 9, 2007 at 2:21 pm |

    Anthony:
    I also went to Case Western Reserve (this is Vince the Intern, just to be clear).

    Two thoughts:
    1. Love the full name, and hated when the school decided to just go by “Case”. The full name shows the tradition of the two schools (Case, and Western Reserve) that joined to form the college.
    2. Gotta love the high-schoolish football unis.

  • C.N. | January 9, 2007 at 2:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”39525″][quote comment=”39505″] Some uni observations from last night’s BCS game-
    Florida’s uniforms were way too busy with TWO patches. The SEC patch got cut in favor of the BCS Championship patch and their 100th anniversary patch. Is that 100 years of football? And on the subject of the patch, unlike in Europe, we in the US are very against on-uniform advertisements, but having “Tostitos” on the patch seems to be okay.[/quote]

    Actually, it looks like they are wearing THREE patches. There is an SEC patch where the v-neck meets. I’ve never seen this type of conference patch before. It’s just the standard NCAA patch with the conference name replacing “NCAA.” Did other teams do this during the season?[/quote]

    A lot of teams do this and have for years. The SEC in particular has done this for some time. Kentucky did the same thing with their SEC patch to make room for the Music City Bowl patch.

  • Patrick O'Donnell | January 9, 2007 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”39661″][quote comment=”39645″][quote comment=”39638″][quote comment=”39625″]Is there anything more annoying than people writing tOSU? That is the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen. How about tTEAMTHATGOTSPANKED? Give me a f*cking break. It’s dumb enough when people say it, but now they TYPE it too?[/quote]
    Relax there buddy…Being a Big 12 guy I have to have some way to type Oklahome Sate University and Ohio State University with acronyms and without confusion. tOSU is just a habit from forums, etc.
    I could care less about “The” but need to make a difference somehow.[/quote]

    If everything had to be that exact, ESPN and FOx or whoever would have to abbreviate Arte Moreno’s baseball team as LAAoA – which is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as referring to the “Mighty Ducks of Anaheim” the first years of their existence.[/quote]

    This has got to be the stupidest argument. Here’s why it’s called tOSU. We all know that. And, is someone REALLY that upset that they need to go on a profane rant about how stupid it is? I, personally, think it’s clever that they have added one simple word, possibly the most commonly used word in the english language, to the front of their nameand gave themselves a little more swagger by doing so. But, I think it’s absolutely hilarious that so many people take offense to it. I wish they would statr printing t-shirts that students and alumni could wear that says THE Ohio State University. I wish they would fly planes over the entire country that says THE Ohio State University. Just so I could laugh at the people that are offended by it.

    OK, a little hyperbole, but I still would like to know WHY people take it so seriously when someone writes about tOSU?[/quote]

    It’s all about how arrogant Sweater Vest U fans are. I could call a dump I just took THE dump I just took, but it doesn’t make my dump any better. It’s still just a piece of sh*t. The whole premise of putting THE in front of your school’s name is about arrogance, and that’s why it rubs people the wrong way.

  • Anthony Verna | January 9, 2007 at 2:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”39666″]Anthony:
    I also went to Case Western Reserve (this is Vince the Intern, just to be clear).

    Two thoughts:
    1. Love the full name, and hated when the school decided to just go by “Case”. The full name shows the tradition of the two schools (Case, and Western Reserve) that joined to form the college.
    2. Gotta love the high-schoolish football unis.[/quote]

    I also love the throwbacks – though not seen in person.

    http://www.d3hoops.c...

    High school? Naaaaah. . . http://www.case.edu/...
    Well, ok. . . http://www.case.edu/...

    I also wanted to go to the alumni event last night in downtown Manhattan, but was caught in filing hell. Thank you, USPTO.

    BTW, Case (*gasp*) has an alumna in women’s football. http://cerebrum.cwru...

  • jesse | January 9, 2007 at 2:46 pm |

    I could call a dump I just took THE dump I just took, but it doesn’t make my dump any better. It’s still just a piece of sh*t.

    You should seriously consider putting that on a t-shirt.

  • Pittsburgh Gunny | January 9, 2007 at 2:49 pm |

    Speaking of the Milwaukee Admirals, they have an interesting bit of logo-creep on their jerseys.

  • Anthony Verna | January 9, 2007 at 2:54 pm |
  • Teebz | January 9, 2007 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”39677″]Speaking of the Milwaukee Admirals, they have an interesting bit of logo-creep on their jerseys.[/quote]

    The Admirals were purchased in June 2005 by a group of investors, including Milwaukee Brewers owner Mark Attanasio and pitcher Ben Sheets. The Milwaukee Brewers became the sole uniform sponsor of the Admirals, and, thus, wear a Brewers logo patch on their sweaters.

  • Pat | January 9, 2007 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote]It’s all about how arrogant Sweater Vest U fans are. I could call a dump I just took THE dump I just took, but it doesn’t make my dump any better. It’s still just a piece of sh*t. The whole premise of putting THE in front of your school’s name is about arrogance, and that’s why it rubs people the wrong way.[/quote]

    I understand the arrogance thing. But still don’t get why it offends people. Is there another Ohio State University that they are calling second fiddle? Unless there is I still don’t really know who they are offending. It’s all in good fun if you ask me. I mean, Ohio University can’t really be offended since they are using the word state and it clearly is not in their school’s name. It would be like if someone at Boston University renamed the school The Boston University and people at Boston College got mad. It would make no sense. Clearly different names.

    Unless there is a situation like in Mass where they have UMASS Amherst, UMASS Lowell, UMASS Dartmouth, and UMASS Boston and then one started going by The University of Massachusetts, I could see that rubbing people in Lowell, Dartmouth and Boston the wrong way.

    But, since it is not that situation then it is clearly stupid.

  • dchis | January 9, 2007 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”39673″][quote comment=”39661″][quote comment=”39645″][quote comment=”39638″][quote comment=”39625″]Is there anything more annoying than people writing tOSU? That is the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen. How about tTEAMTHATGOTSPANKED? Give me a f*cking break. It’s dumb enough when people say it, but now they TYPE it too?[/quote]
    Relax there buddy…Being a Big 12 guy I have to have some way to type Oklahome Sate University and Ohio State University with acronyms and without confusion. tOSU is just a habit from forums, etc.
    I could care less about “The” but need to make a difference somehow.[/quote]

    If everything had to be that exact, ESPN and FOx or whoever would have to abbreviate Arte Moreno’s baseball team as LAAoA – which is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as referring to the “Mighty Ducks of Anaheim” the first years of their existence.[/quote]

    This has got to be the stupidest argument. Here’s why it’s called tOSU. We all know that. And, is someone REALLY that upset that they need to go on a profane rant about how stupid it is? I, personally, think it’s clever that they have added one simple word, possibly the most commonly used word in the english language, to the front of their nameand gave themselves a little more swagger by doing so. But, I think it’s absolutely hilarious that so many people take offense to it. I wish they would statr printing t-shirts that students and alumni could wear that says THE Ohio State University. I wish they would fly planes over the entire country that says THE Ohio State University. Just so I could laugh at the people that are offended by it.

    OK, a little hyperbole, but I still would like to know WHY people take it so seriously when someone writes about tOSU?[/quote]

    It’s all about how arrogant Sweater Vest U fans are. I could call a dump I just took THE dump I just took, but it doesn’t make my dump any better. It’s still just a piece of sh*t. The whole premise of putting THE in front of your school’s name is about arrogance, and that’s why it rubs people the wrong way.[/quote]

    But it still is very interesting that i t would matter to so many people. What is wrong with a university taking pride in itself and the students taking pride in the university? Everyune on here takes pride in something whether or not someone else thinks it’s worth having pride in. Case in point, I’m a New England Patriots fan and reading Jay Palmer’s post about wanting to win I kind of chuckled to myself, but I later thought that hey yeah he is still excited about the great year they had but still wanted to win and was disapointed when they didn’t. I thought there is no way the Jets would beat the Chargers but it doesn’t matter because in the playoffs anything can happen. I was very impressed with the Jets and think they will be very good for many years to come and next year will be better than this year. SO, I didn’t think that it mattered if the Jets won because they can’t beat the Chargers but you never know and for Jay Palmer it’s his team and he wants them to win know matter what. That is taking pride in his team. I’m sure he loves the J-E-T-S! JETS! JETS! thing. It’s not my favorite but it makes me think of the Jets.
    The “U” I don’t like form Miami but tOSU is their name name.

  • Richard | January 9, 2007 at 3:41 pm |

    some universities are officially named with a “The” in front of their name. In Washington , D.C., there is The American University, but it does not go by tAU, it just goes by AU. Michael Holley, formerly of ESPN and ESPN.com, is an alumnus of OSU, and when he talks about the university, he says “The Ohio State University”. When he writes about them, he just calls them OSU.

  • Kerry | January 9, 2007 at 3:46 pm |

    I’m pretty sure that all the SEC teams have the “SEC” pennant patch:

    LSU
    Arkansas – look at the running back’s shoulder
    Ole Miss – players’ right shoulder
    Alabama
    Tennessee
    Kentucky
    Mississippi State
    Auburn
    Vanderbilt & South Carolina
    Florida
    Georgia

  • Banker Bill | January 9, 2007 at 4:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”39648″][quote comment=”39577″]
    Thanks for the info. I’m learning a ton. I have no problem with ‘logo creep’ as it were, if it helps the consumer, regardless of aethetics. Do you have any idea what players in these leagues are paid (U.S. equiv.)? Are the leagues considered strictly developmental, or are they similar to Independant League baseball, which is often a mix of young players still holding out hope that they will make it, and older guys just playing a sport they enjoy while they’re still reasonably talented?[/quote]

    Salary disclosure over in Europe isn’t common. The Russian Super League has no disclosure, but it has been said that some players receive millions in American dollars for playing there.

    However, in my searches on the ‘Net, I came up with nothing in terms of concrete salaries. There are some leagues that provide players with a rent-free apartment, a new car, and a salary. I know this happens in the Swiss Elite League and the Swedish Elite League. Is it disclosed as part of their salary? No clue.

    As for being developmental, it depends on how you view it. As a fan, they are not a developmental leagues, but there are former NHLers doing very well over there. Patrick Lebeau, Sylvain Turgeon, and Rick DiPietro, all former Montreal Canadiens, have all played over there and done very well for themselves.

    As a GM from an NHL team, this is where you’ll find NHL-ready, unsigned veteran players if you’re looking. This is also where you scout the younger Europeans who are draft-eligible who aren’t in the CHL. The Sedin twins were products of the Swedish Elite League, as was Markus Naslund and Peter Forsberg when they were drafted. Ilya Kovalchuk is a Russian Elite League graduate. Mark Streit of the Montreal Canadiens is a Swiss Elite League graduate, although he played all over Europe before Montreal signed him as a free agent.[/quote]

    Did you mean PAUL DiPietro? Rick is the Islander goalie that hopefully my Rangers will strafe tonight…

  • jesse | January 9, 2007 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”39686″]some universities are officially named with a “The” in front of their name. In Washington , D.C., there is The American University, but it does not go by tAU, it just goes by AU. Michael Holley, formerly of ESPN and ESPN.com, is an alumnus of OSU, and when he talks about the university, he says “The Ohio State University”. When he writes about them, he just calls them OSU.[/quote]

    tOSU would be one thing, just saying the name of the school. But with Ohio State it’s THEosu. It’s arrogant and it’s meant to be.

  • Teebz | January 9, 2007 at 4:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”39690″]
    Did you mean PAUL DiPietro? Rick is the Islander goalie that hopefully my Rangers will strafe tonight…[/quote]

    Yeah, Paul. That’s what I get for reading NHL news in the newspaper and typing on Uni Watch at the same time. :o)

    Besides, Rick has never been a Hab. Good eyes, Bill.

  • Patrick O'Donnell | January 9, 2007 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”39691″][quote comment=”39686″]some universities are officially named with a “The” in front of their name. In Washington , D.C., there is The American University, but it does not go by tAU, it just goes by AU. Michael Holley, formerly of ESPN and ESPN.com, is an alumnus of OSU, and when he talks about the university, he says “The Ohio State University”. When he writes about them, he just calls them OSU.[/quote]

    tOSU would be one thing, just saying the name of the school. But with Ohio State it’s THEosu.

    It’s arrogant and it’s meant to be.[/quote]

    Exactly. Well said.

  • Banker Bill | January 9, 2007 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”39673″][quote comment=”39661″][quote comment=”39645″][quote comment=”39638″][quote comment=”39625″]Is there anything more annoying than people writing tOSU? That is the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen. How about tTEAMTHATGOTSPANKED? Give me a f*cking break. It’s dumb enough when people say it, but now they TYPE it too?[/quote]
    Relax there buddy…Being a Big 12 guy I have to have some way to type Oklahome Sate University and Ohio State University with acronyms and without confusion. tOSU is just a habit from forums, etc.
    I could care less about “The” but need to make a difference somehow.[/quote]

    If everything had to be that exact, ESPN and FOx or whoever would have to abbreviate Arte Moreno’s baseball team as LAAoA – which is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as referring to the “Mighty Ducks of Anaheim” the first years of their existence.[/quote]

    This has got to be the stupidest argument. Here’s why it’s called tOSU. We all know that. And, is someone REALLY that upset that they need to go on a profane rant about how stupid it is? I, personally, think it’s clever that they have added one simple word, possibly the most commonly used word in the english language, to the front of their nameand gave themselves a little more swagger by doing so. But, I think it’s absolutely hilarious that so many people take offense to it. I wish they would statr printing t-shirts that students and alumni could wear that says THE Ohio State University. I wish they would fly planes over the entire country that says THE Ohio State University. Just so I could laugh at the people that are offended by it.

    OK, a little hyperbole, but I still would like to know WHY people take it so seriously when someone writes about tOSU?[/quote]

    It’s all about how arrogant Sweater Vest U fans are. I could call a dump I just took THE dump I just took, but it doesn’t make my dump any better. It’s still just a piece of sh*t. The whole premise of putting THE in front of your school’s name is about arrogance, and that’s why it rubs people the wrong way.[/quote]

    Very appropriate comparison, cosidering how THE Ohio State University played last night!!

  • Banker Bill | January 9, 2007 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”39692″][quote comment=”39690″]
    Did you mean PAUL DiPietro? Rick is the Islander goalie that hopefully my Rangers will strafe tonight…[/quote]

    Yeah, Paul. That’s what I get for reading NHL news in the newspaper and typing on Uni Watch at the same time. :o)

    Besides, Rick has never been a Hab. Good eyes, Bill.[/quote]

    I just can’t believe I remembered him – my roster knowledge is OK but not on par with the mighty Teebz…without looking, he wore 45 right?

  • Teebz | January 9, 2007 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”39695″]
    I just can’t believe I remembered him – my roster knowledge is OK but not on par with the mighty Teebz…without looking, he wore 45 right?[/quote]

    He did!

    Ironically, he played for the Swiss team at the Olympics because he married a Swiss woman. He is an official Swiss citizen now.

  • GoTerriers | January 9, 2007 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”39684″] It would be like if someone at Boston University renamed the school The Boston University and people at Boston College got mad. It would make no sense. Clearly different names.[/quote]

    As a BU alumnus, I like this . . .I think I might start using this reference and see if it catches on . . . .

  • Jeremy | January 9, 2007 at 4:33 pm |

    i guess i went to tUK*

  • Chris | January 9, 2007 at 4:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”39655″][quote comment=”39532″]Hmmm, well this is how the leagues are stacked, from the top to bottom

    NHL
    AHL
    ECHL, UHL, CHL
    USHL, SPHL and other developmental leagues[/quote]

    Actually the USHL is a junior, amateur league for players looking for NCAA scholarships, while the SPHL is the lowest rung of professional hockey.

    As far as the money goes for players playing in these leagues, for the most part, European leagues pay enough to live comfortable but that’s about it. The exception to that rule is the Russian Super League…they have a lot of money to throw around, which is why you often see players Russian players who are sent down to the AHL by teir NHL team choose to return to their homeland. Apparently making much more coin in Russia is more appealing to them than riding the buses to places like Scranton, PA or Grand Rapids, MI. Go figure…

  • Matt | January 9, 2007 at 4:34 pm |

    Another example similar to the shortning and changing of college names is the University at Buffalo. Its full name is the State University of New York at Buffalo. Up until the early 90’s it went by that or SUNY Buffalo. But, since the early 90’s they’ve gone away from the State University of New York part and only go by University at Buffalo or UB. The sports teams shorten it even farther and go with just Buffalo.

  • Richard | January 9, 2007 at 4:45 pm |

    if your school actually has a The in front of it, then you went there. If you’re just putting it there to be arrogant like the Buckeyes, then it makes no sense.

  • Richard | January 9, 2007 at 4:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”39702″]Another example similar to the shortning and changing of college names is the University at Buffalo. Its full name is the State University of New York at Buffalo. Up until the early 90’s it went by that or SUNY Buffalo. But, since the early 90’s they’ve gone away from the State University of New York part and only go by University at Buffalo or UB. The sports teams shorten it even farther and go with just Buffalo.[/quote]

    Actually, it’s still The State University of New York, it’s just University At Buffalo

  • Richard | January 9, 2007 at 4:49 pm |

    here’s a full SUNY list – it’s not just buffalo.

  • ACC (the Brain) | January 9, 2007 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”39693″][quote comment=”39691″][quote comment=”39686″]some universities are officially named with a “The” in front of their name. In Washington , D.C., there is The American University, but it does not go by tAU, it just goes by AU. Michael Holley, formerly of ESPN and ESPN.com, is an alumnus of OSU, and when he talks about the university, he says “The Ohio State University”. When he writes about them, he just calls them OSU.[/quote]

    tOSU would be one thing, just saying the name of the school. But with Ohio State it’s THEosu.

    It’s arrogant and it’s meant to be.[/quote]

    Exactly. Well said.[/quote]

    What would be funny is if Oklahoma State or Oregon State changed their basketball jerseys to read
    THE OKLAHOMA STATE UNIVERSITY
    or
    THE OREGON STATE UNIVERSITY

  • BCrisp | January 9, 2007 at 4:52 pm |

    Since I started the tOSU thing I’ll add something about Texas rivalries. UT refers to themselves as The University of Texas. There are many universities in Texes, and they were not even the first. Texas A&M fans find this a liitle arrogant so A&M fans (which was the first public college in Texas) refer to UT as t.u.(texas university). Beleive me it pained me to type UT this many times.
    I’ll say it again: I used tOSU as a way to differentiate between OSU, OSU, and OSU. Forgive me if I left out any OSUs.

  • Joe Hilseberg | January 9, 2007 at 4:54 pm |

    I had some real work to do today (damnit!) and popped back in here a few mins ago….I really want to see this pic of this Ripken and Gwynn jerseys you all are talking about from earlier, but it’s not up on ESPN’s page anymore.

    ESPN changes home page images frequently, so for future reference please link to the actual jpg or gif image and not the url.

    And just for fun…I LOVE HIGH SOCKS!

  • maximumK | January 9, 2007 at 5:05 pm |

    Keeping THE discussion in THE Big Ten, Penn State also refers to themselves as THE Pennsylvania State University.

    tPSU

  • Teebz | January 9, 2007 at 5:09 pm |

    Since I’ve finally decided on the three MLB caps I want to purchase to take advantage of that little deal they have going on, here are the three:

    Choice number one.
    Choice number two.
    Choice number three.

    Thoughts?

  • ACC (the Brain) | January 9, 2007 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”39660″][quote comment=”39658″][quote comment=”39654″]I was being completely silly in saying that the QB can’t have any stickers since when you throw, it might be an interception or an incomplete pass.

    Or it could be picked up off the ground and run 35 yards the other direction, thank you Chad Pennington![/quote]

    Now, now. If you’re a Jets fan, I don’t think you have much to complain about. The team was expected to go nowhere, but Pennington (heartthrob of my friend Jody who went to Marshall) returns healthy, the coach is much better than expected, and the team has a 10-win season. That one play won’t mean much in the long-run.[/quote]

    Very true…in an overall view of the situation.

    However, for all of us that bleed the green, this cost us a very real shot at winning a very difficult game and in that moment I was not thinking about next year, Mangini, or Chad’s Comeback Player of the Year award.

    I WANTED TO WIN!!![/quote]

    Shame on CBS for not showing a flashback of the ’85 wildcard game. Those Jet uniforms were one of a kind – especially the dark version.

  • Chuck Ryals | January 9, 2007 at 5:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”39535″]I’m sure the subject has been discussed before, but am I the only one who thought OSU’s helmet stickers looked incredibly tacky last night? I’m not a fan of the concept to begin with, but after a season’s accumulation, it just looks pretty stupid.[/quote]

    I would bet that you are not from Ohio, Steve. The stickers are tradition, and they look great! Buckeye nation is hungover and still in a state of shock today after our WHIPPING last night. :-(

  • todd krevanchi | January 9, 2007 at 5:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”39711″]I had some real work to do today (damnit!) and popped back in here a few mins ago….I really want to see this pic of this Ripken and Gwynn jerseys you all are talking about from earlier, but it’s not up on ESPN’s page anymore.

    ESPN changes home page images frequently, so for future reference please link to the actual jpg or gif image and not the url.

    And just for fun…I LOVE HIGH SOCKS![/quote]

    i love women… especially when they throw on one my button downs…

    there has to be something said about those in pro sports who acknowledge a university yet fail to have a diploma from said university. announcers say it all they time “college team xyz lost alot to graduation last year.” really? my guess is they lost alot to eligibility running out.

    now its, “touchdown superstar xyz! the STATE U grad now has 13 scores this season.” can you imagine when its “touchdown superstar xyz! the certified attender of STATE U now has 13 scores this season.”

  • ACC (the Brain) | January 9, 2007 at 5:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”39711″]I had some real work to do today (damnit!) and popped back in here a few mins ago….I really want to see this pic of this Ripken and Gwynn jerseys you all are talking about from earlier, but it’s not up on ESPN’s page anymore.

    ESPN changes home page images frequently, so for future reference please link to the actual jpg or gif image and not the url.

    And just for fun…I LOVE HIGH SOCKS![/quote]

    I’ll remember Gwynn best in his prime with the pinstripes and brown hat. I believe it was 1985-1994 when he was arguably the best hitter in the game.

  • Matthew S. | January 9, 2007 at 5:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”39723″][quote comment=”39711″]I had some real work to do today (damnit!) and popped back in here a few mins ago….I really want to see this pic of this Ripken and Gwynn jerseys you all are talking about from earlier, but it’s not up on ESPN’s page anymore.

    ESPN changes home page images frequently, so for future reference please link to the actual jpg or gif image and not the url.

    And just for fun…I LOVE HIGH SOCKS![/quote]

    I’ll remember Gwynn best in his prime with the pinstripes and brown hat. I believe it was 1985-1994 when he was arguably the best hitter in the game.[/quote]

    I distinctly remember Gwynn and the Padres making my 102 win Astros look ridiculous in 1998. That was supposed to be our year, and the Padres beat us 3-1, defeating Randy Johnson both times he pitched in the series. I still remember Gwynn taking a nearly sideways Randy Johnson slider and shooting it down the third base line in Game 1. I knew things weren’t going to go my way when I saw that.

    Teebz, good hat choices, but I have no idea what the second one is. The ‘O’–if that’s what it is–almost looks like a thinner Oregon Ducks ‘O’. I always thought that the Padres hat from the 1990s, navy blue with a white ‘S’ interlocked with an orange ‘D’ looked great.

    http://www.baseballh...

  • Bill T. | January 9, 2007 at 5:39 pm |

    Not uni-related, but its funny what winning a little thing like a National Championship will do for you: http://www.FireUrban...

  • Chad G | January 9, 2007 at 6:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”39715″]Since I’ve finally decided on the three MLB caps I want to purchase to take advantage of that little deal they have going on, here are the three:

    Choice number one.
    Choice number two.
    Choice number three.

    Thoughts?[/quote]

    They’re all nice, except I would go with a current Washington nationals hat instead of the senators throwback, theyre basically the same thing plus New Era hats are made better than american needle.

    And Matthew S., just so you know, the hat with the O is an original Baltimore Orioles hat (i.e. the Yankees, before the moved to New York). Except according to “dressed to the nines” they never actually wore that hat

  • Eric G. | January 9, 2007 at 6:21 pm |

    Hey, not related to anything, but throwing it there.
    My friend and I started an NFL blog yesterday, and if you wanna check it out (there’s only a mock draft now) you can go to the following link.
    NFLOL
    Thanks.

  • Tom | January 9, 2007 at 6:22 pm |

    Familiar looking minor league hockey throwback jersey here.

  • DP30 | January 9, 2007 at 6:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”39684″][quote]Unless there is I still don’t really know who they are offending. It’s all in good fun if you ask me. I mean, Ohio University can’t really be offended since they are using the word state and it clearly is not in their school’s name.[/quote]

    Actually, Ohio University and Ohio State went through a huge lawsuit/court battle a few years ago over the use of the word “Ohio.”

    It seems that Ohio State used to use just the word “Ohio” a lot, from the stadium name, to cheerleaders’ uniforms, to track outfits, and it got to the point where Ohio accused Ohio State of infringement. Plus many Ohio University people were becoming outraged that their school was being confused with Ohio State (and a lot of times, still is to this day).

    The courts tended to agree, since Ohio University was established before Ohio State University. So as a result, since around the year 1999 or 2000, you see Ohio State now using the “athletic O” on the majority of their attire.

    As an aside, one store in Athens had been selling a t-shirt that read “Ohio, THE state university” in green-and-white as a running joke response to The Ohio State University’s name claim.

  • DP30 | January 9, 2007 at 6:49 pm |

    Sorry about the last post being in all italics, I’m just glad I got the links to work right.

  • Greg H | January 9, 2007 at 7:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”39600″][quote comment=”39596″][quote comment=”39589″]You didn;t miss much in tOSU’s band. They were playing Titanic. Formed a ship and sunk it when the band hid underneath blue tarps.
    Pretty ironic considering their football team this year.[/quote]
    Is that what that was???? I saw that part and then the commercials started. I just wanted to see someone dot the i.[/quote]
    I was in The Fightin’ Texas Aggie Band for 4 years. That’s what it looked like tOSU was doing on TV to me. Did they know they were going to be on national TV doing that, and playing a bad song from 7 years ago?[/quote]

    The Michigan Band did it in ’98 (The fire extinguishers, sinking the ship, and everything.) Actually, the MMB was the first to do the script OHIO as well.

    http://library.osu.e...

  • Thorold Blair | January 9, 2007 at 7:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”39648″][quote comment=”39577″]
    Thanks for the info. I’m learning a ton. I have no problem with ‘logo creep’ as it were, if it helps the consumer, regardless of aethetics. Do you have any idea what players in these leagues are paid (U.S. equiv.)? Are the leagues considered strictly developmental, or are they similar to Independant League baseball, which is often a mix of young players still holding out hope that they will make it, and older guys just playing a sport they enjoy while they’re still reasonably talented?[/quote]

    Salary disclosure over in Europe isn’t common. The Russian Super League has no disclosure, but it has been said that some players receive millions in American dollars for playing there.

    However, in my searches on the ‘Net, I came up with nothing in terms of concrete salaries. There are some leagues that provide players with a rent-free apartment, a new car, and a salary. I know this happens in the Swiss Elite League and the Swedish Elite League. Is it disclosed as part of their salary? No clue.

    As for being developmental, it depends on how you view it. As a fan, they are not a developmental leagues, but there are former NHLers doing very well over there. Patrick Lebeau, Sylvain Turgeon, and Rick DiPietro, all former Montreal Canadiens, have all played over there and done very well for themselves.[/quote]

    Paul DiPietro?

  • Mike Mardi | January 9, 2007 at 7:38 pm |

    I was watching ESPNEWS and the ran a clip of Cal Ripken Jr. from an allstar game. I noticed that the catcher was wearing number 09. I cant get the picture i took to work. Sorry.

  • Mike Mardi | January 9, 2007 at 7:39 pm |

  • Thorold Blair | January 9, 2007 at 7:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”39715″]Since I’ve finally decided on the three MLB caps I want to purchase to take advantage of that little deal they have going on, here are the three:

    Choice number one.
    Choice number two.
    Choice number three.

    Thoughts?[/quote]

    Good choices… I actually looked at all three of those myself, but I’m sticking with new eras.. dont want to chance an american needle hat.

  • Chili | January 9, 2007 at 8:02 pm |

    When I was a kid (late ’70s), I played on a McDonald’s-sponsored softball team called the Big Macs. If I recall correctly, we got free ice cream after the games — it was awesome.

    Teebz — I like the middle hat the best, then the Nationals one.

  • Brandon | January 9, 2007 at 8:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”39513″]Anyone notice the very busy BCS Bowl Champs hats

    Louisville

    USC

    Boise St.

    LSU

    Click on the links view more pictures and you’ll see a lot of the sponsors logos on them as well[/quote]
    I am surprised that the rose bowl who keeps the tradition with thier logo and naming conforms with the other bowls in the hat department

  • Thorold Blair | January 9, 2007 at 8:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”39748″]I was watching ESPNEWS and the ran a clip of Cal Ripken Jr. from an allstar game. I noticed that the catcher was wearing number 09. I cant get the picture i took to work. Sorry.[/quote]

    I can’t find a picture to confirm, but Benito Santiago used to wear 09 as opposed to 9 because he didn’t like the number being obscured by the strap of the chest protector. My “exhaustive research” has concluded that that was the 91 or 92 All-Star game as those were the only years that he wore 09 and played in the all-star game, both times for the san diego padres

  • ToasterPoodle | January 9, 2007 at 8:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”39694″][quote comment=”39673″][quote comment=”39661″][quote comment=”39645″][quote comment=”39638″][quote comment=”39625″]Is there anything more annoying than people writing tOSU? That is the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen. How about tTEAMTHATGOTSPANKED? Give me a f*cking break. It’s dumb enough when people say it, but now they TYPE it too?[/quote]
    Relax there buddy…Being a Big 12 guy I have to have some way to type Oklahome Sate University and Ohio State University with acronyms and without confusion. tOSU is just a habit from forums, etc.
    I could care less about “The” but need to make a difference somehow.[/quote]

    If everything had to be that exact, ESPN and FOx or whoever would have to abbreviate Arte Moreno’s baseball team as LAAoA – which is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as referring to the “Mighty Ducks of Anaheim” the first years of their existence.[/quote]

    This has got to be the stupidest argument. Here’s why it’s called tOSU. We all know that. And, is someone REALLY that upset that they need to go on a profane rant about how stupid it is? I, personally, think it’s clever that they have added one simple word, possibly the most commonly used word in the english language, to the front of their nameand gave themselves a little more swagger by doing so. But, I think it’s absolutely hilarious that so many people take offense to it. I wish they would statr printing t-shirts that students and alumni could wear that says THE Ohio State University. I wish they would fly planes over the entire country that says THE Ohio State University. Just so I could laugh at the people that are offended by it.

    OK, a little hyperbole, but I still would like to know WHY people take it so seriously when someone writes about tOSU?[/quote]

    It’s all about how arrogant Sweater Vest U fans are. I could call a dump I just took THE dump I just took, but it doesn’t make my dump any better. It’s still just a piece of sh*t. The whole premise of putting THE in front of your school’s name is about arrogance, and that’s why it rubs people the wrong way.[/quote]

    Very appropriate comparison, cosidering how THE Ohio State University played last night!![/quote]

    Here is what cracks me up about so many of you getting bent out of shape about the ‘THE’; like any word, it only has the meaning YOU the reader assign to it. So, Patrick O’Donnell you have merely escalated the power of the word you seem to hate.
    from a STILL proud alum of THE OSU.
    congrats to the Gators, by far THE superior team.

  • DP30 | January 9, 2007 at 8:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”39753″][quote comment=”39748″]I was watching ESPNEWS and the ran a clip of Cal Ripken Jr. from an allstar game. I noticed that the catcher was wearing number 09. I cant get the picture i took to work. Sorry.[/quote]

    I can’t find a picture to confirm, but Benito Santiago used to wear 09 as opposed to 9 because he didn’t like the number being obscured by the strap of the chest protector. My “exhaustive research” has concluded that that was the 91 or 92 All-Star game as those were the only years that he wore 09 and played in the all-star game, both times for the san diego padres[/quote]

    I agree, pretty sure it’s Benito Santiago. The best I could come up with for a picture is this, although it’s very small and tough to see. It’s from when he was wearing 09 with the Florida Marlins, so that’s 1993 and later. (too lazy to baseball-reference and look up when he was with them)

    Sorry if this is in italics too, the preview has it listed OK.

  • Original Jim | January 9, 2007 at 9:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”39684″][quote]Unless there is a situation like in Mass where they have UMASS Amherst, UMASS Lowell, UMASS Dartmouth, and UMASS Boston and then one started going by The University of Massachusetts, I could see that rubbing people in Lowell, Dartmouth and Boston the wrong way.

    But, since it is not that situation then it is clearly stupid.[/quote]

    UMass-Lowell used to be just known as the University of Lowell (U-Lowell) up until the early 90s when it was absorbed by the entire University of Mass. system. Same thing with UMass-Dartmouth, which was known as Southeastern Mass. University, up until the same point.

    If someone just says “UMass”, it’s universally known to be referring to UMass-Amherst. UMass-Boston was always called that, as far as I remember, just to differentiate it from Amherst.

    Even now, UMass-Amherst wants to be known only as UMass or Massachusetts. All other schools have the campus location listed as part of the name, and I’ve never known anyone to be either confused or feel inferior because of it.

  • Jon In SLC | January 9, 2007 at 9:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”39647″][quote comment=”39644″][quote comment=”39617″]not sure if anyone has been to the fiesta bowl at all, but in 96 when i went, they gave out free souvenir cups filled with tostitos and little salsa cups… unlimited trips. they had high school kids, grabbing cup after cup and just filling them with product and setting them on tables.
    my group i think walked away with like 50 cups that night…
    i remember mentioning that i wanted to go to the NOKIA sugar bowl the next year and get a phone for nothing.

    one side note. at the army/navy game this year, a phone sponsor (att maybe?) gave away a $20 phone card to all current army and navy cadets/middies in attendance. all they had to do was go to one of a few different redemption centers at the linc and provide evidence they were active.[/quote]

    I was at the “Nokia” Sugar Bowl last year (my screen name should tell you why), and I didn’t get a free phone, or anything else for that matter. I was happy with the outcome of the game though.[/quote]

    …in addition, I was also at the “Toyota” Gator Bowl this year, and just in case anyone is curious, I did not get a new free truck![/quote]

    I went to the 2004 Fiesta Bowl (technically Jan 1, 2005.) Utah v. Pittsburgh, and we didn’t receive anything of value either. Other than some well deserved credit and legitimacy.

  • Denis | January 9, 2007 at 9:56 pm |

    Ohio University Bobcats in Athens Ohio goes by
    “Ohio University, THE State University”

  • Joe O | January 9, 2007 at 10:04 pm |

    I don’t have any pics, but the Tampa Bay Lightning were wearing a commerative patch tonight in their game. The patch had something to do with the “Grath Brooks Teammates for Kids” thing the NHL was doing. The interesting (to me at least) was that Johan Holmqvist (lightning goaltender) had a slightly different patch. His patch didn’t have any of the white writing (it appeared as though his patch had dark blue writing). This made his patch nearly completely unreadable. The patch still had an outer white ring, but it looks like they made him a different patch. Maybe to avoid drawing the shooters eye?

  • DP30 | January 9, 2007 at 10:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”39776″]Ohio University Bobcats in Athens Ohio goes by
    “Ohio University, THE State University”[/quote]

    Technically, it’s listed as “The Ohio University.” That’s what it says on my degree, at least.

  • Matt | January 9, 2007 at 10:15 pm |

    seems like Zack Duke of the Pittsburgh Pirates writes something on his underbrim….DUKE

  • Jordan | January 9, 2007 at 10:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”39504″]todd krevanchi[/quote]

    Just curious, are you a NT member?

    Sorry if you have already addressed this–

  • Lake | January 9, 2007 at 10:43 pm |

    I loved when Santiago wore 09. He said it was because the strap on the back of his chest protector blocked his number. By going with 09, the strap would go in between the numbers, ensuring maximum visibility.

  • Gibby | January 9, 2007 at 10:59 pm |

    Alex Ovechkin was sporting the exceptionally long laces on his pants tonight. Appears to be yellow (matching his skates). My theory is that the yellow is actually a lace (a full skate lace too, because hockey players for some reason think it’s a good idea to have laces practically dragging on the ice). The black seems to be a unfastened belt (check to see the end, looks like a plastic buckle).

  • tessa | January 9, 2007 at 11:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”39701″] Apparently making much more coin in Russia is more appealing to them than riding the buses to places like Scranton, PA or Grand Rapids, MI. Go figure…[/quote]

    They should only be so lucky!

    The tOSU thing is also annoying because “the” is not typically included in acronyms. A notable exception, of course, it POTUS. Come to think of it, arrogance and ineffectiveness seems to be a hallmark of those including “the” in their acronym!

    ;). Just added another page to that FBI file, I think…

  • DRJ | January 10, 2007 at 12:47 am |

    [quote comment=”39686″]some universities are officially named with a “The” in front of their name. In Washington , D.C., there is The American University, but it does not go by tAU, it just goes by AU. Michael Holley, formerly of ESPN and ESPN.com, is an alumnus of OSU, and when he talks about the university, he says “The Ohio State University”. When he writes about them, he just calls them OSU.[/quote]

    I went to The College of New Jersey, where “The” is definitely part of the title. In fact, we took it one step further: Much to the dismay of pretty much everybody, TCNJ is the official abbreviation. Nothing says “elite institution of higher learning” like a big capital “T” that stands for “The”.

    Thankfully, most of the athletic teams get it right and use New Jersey.

  • Gaz... | January 10, 2007 at 1:03 am |

    Even my University’s football team (McMaster) wear uniform sponsorship, I can’t find a clear picture but you can catch site of the Solo Mobile patch here

    I know this was a while back (#42), but that looks more like a D.A.R.E. logo to me, as opposed to the Solo Mobile patch that Matty L mentioned above.

    As hypocriticial as this sounds, is there any way we could delete some of the italic “quotes” when one quotes a response from a response from a rsponse from a response? It’s ridiculous. No one is looking at the first response in a series of fifteen responses with links and the like.

  • Richard | January 10, 2007 at 8:21 am |

    [quote comment=”39755″][quote comment=”39753″][quote comment=”39748″]I was watching ESPNEWS and the ran a clip of Cal Ripken Jr. from an allstar game. I noticed that the catcher was wearing number 09. I cant get the picture i took to work. Sorry.[/quote]

    I can’t find a picture to confirm, but Benito Santiago used to wear 09 as opposed to 9 because he didn’t like the number being obscured by the strap of the chest protector. My “exhaustive research” has concluded that that was the 91 or 92 All-Star game as those were the only years that he wore 09 and played in the all-star game, both times for the san diego padres[/quote]

    I agree, pretty sure it’s Benito Santiago. The best I could come up with for a picture is this, although it’s very small and tough to see. It’s from when he was wearing 09 with the Florida Marlins, so that’s 1993 and later. (too lazy to baseball-reference and look up when he was with them)

    Sorry if this is in italics too, the preview has it listed OK.[/quote]

    It had to be either Santiago or Craig Biggio, since they were the only 2 players on the 1991 NL roster to catch in the game, according to the box score

  • todd krevanchi | January 10, 2007 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”39788″][quote comment=”39504″]todd krevanchi[/quote]

    Just curious, are you a NT member?

    Sorry if you have already addressed this–[/quote]

    yup… administrator

  • al | January 10, 2007 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”39587″]Having received the offer from MLB.com, I was perusing the online aisles of MLB.com’s shop. It was there that I noticed this cap.

    Now I don’t want to rain on Cleveland’s heritage, but doesn’t that cap look like it should be part of this team’s apparel? According to the info on MLB.com, Cleveland wore this hat from 1959-1961, 1963-64, and 1970-71.[/quote]

    Or worse, you can say it looks like the Reds should have worn those caps.

  • al | January 10, 2007 at 11:27 am |

    [quote comment=”39715″]Since I’ve finally decided on the three MLB caps I want to purchase to take advantage of that little deal they have going on, here are the three:

    Choice number one.
    Choice number two.
    Choice number three.

    Thoughts?[/quote]

    Teebz, is the second choice the Nuva-ring cap?
    Maybe your significant other will enjoy that choice.

  • al | January 10, 2007 at 11:39 am |

    [quote comment=”39629″]on sunday nicco posted the following: Depending the competition, but for FIFA tournaments, only the GK can wear number 1. In the 86 World Cup, Argentina assigned number alphabetically, so Sergio Almirón, a forward, wore number 1, while the GK’s had 18 Nery Pumpido, 15 Luis Islas & 22 Héctor Zelada.

    i have to correctr this, the reason this cannot be is because the great diego maradonna wore #10 for that world cup as he always hasw and that would place his number (under niccos alphabet soup theory) b/ween 15 and 18 not 10…[/quote]

    Rene, it’s true, Maradona and Kempes were handed the ’10’ jersey and the remainder of the squads got alphabetical influenced numbers.

  • Peter | December 2, 2007 at 3:19 pm |

    haha, this is just what I was looking for! I was appalled by Alaska Anchorage’s tacky arena ads last night when they played our CC Tigers and it naturally reminded me of the…uh…”uniforms” and “ice” in Europe. I’m about as obsessed with Uni’s as you so I love this blog and especially the pics you found. I think the worst thing I’ve seen in Europe is face-off dots painted like Wal-Mart smileys and players looking like they got shot with paintballs…although a gold-flame wearing-mcdonalds center is just as scary!