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Shirts Off Their Backs

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The other day I got an e-mail from Matt Kowalski. The subject line read, “The only sport where the winner gets the loser’s uniform…” When I opened the e-mail, the sentence was completed: “is rowing.”

The rest of the e-mail read like so:

“Shirt racing” is the way things are done at all major college rowing championships. If you win the regatta, then you get ALL THE JERSEYS/HENLEYS/UNIFORMS of the other crews you beat. If a rower is lucky enough, he can get on a run — the U of Wisconsin recently had a class (’03, maybe?) that won four consecutive Eastern Sprints titles; the few kids in those boats wound up with lots of Harvard/Yale/Princeton gear. I think there’s a legend of some guys from Penn in the early or mid-’90s that came away with 150+ shirts over four years, between Eastern Sprints, IRAs (Intercollegiate Rowing Association), and dual races.

I rowed at a small club school (Pitt) and also spent a season on the Wisconsin crew after transferring. After every race at Pitt, I had to give up my shirt. At Wisconsin, however, I had the satisfying feeling of watching a Purdue rower dump a huge laundry pile of Purdue jerseys right in front of out trailer after all our boats spanked them at the Big 10 regatta.

Then there’s the story of Yale’s silk sash. At one point in the ’70s, their crew was so slow, and giving away so many of their jerseys with the real silk stripe, that they had to switch to screening the stripe onto the jersey, just to save money.

Shirt racing, incidentally, is one of the reasons why men’s rowing is NOT an NCAA sport. Betting by NCAA student-athletes is outlawed, and shirt racing is essentially a bet. But under the IRA (which is 12 years older than the NCAA, by the way), it’s no problem.

There’s no professional rowing (anymore). No money to be made in
the sport. Yet Wall Street types from Ivy League schools put off big-$$$ careers to live like hobos trying to make national teams. Shirt racing encapsulates this spirit of the sport. In dual races between 8s, they actually pull the 63-ft. shells together at the finish line and give over the shirts right thereon the water. International rowing doesn’t really have shirt racing, but there’s a long tradition of trading gear at the end of a World Cup-level regatta. When the East German crews were winning in the ’70s, one of their henley jerseys could command barter of a lot of Western-issued sweats/warm-ups/gear.

Interesting protocol, although it raises as many questions as it answers, at least for me. Here’s the ensuing back-and-forth I had with Kowalski:

Uni Watch: Do the winners wear the losers’ jerseys, or do they all go into a trophy case, or what?

Matt Kowalski: They don’t usually get displayed or anything, other then being worn at practice or other regattas as a symbol of speed. I lost the few that I won at Wisconsin. I think a lot of successful rowers just throw theirs in a drawer. It’s not a sport with a lot of glamour.

UW: I assume women’s rowing teams don’t do the uni-trade thing, right? And this is why women’s rowing is an NCAA sport?

MK: Women’s rowing is a NCAA sport because of Title IX. It’s the logical choice when you need to add 50-70 female students to balance football, and has grown by about tenfold since the 1990s. The women tend to wear unisuits, so there’s not as much trading.

UW: What does a typical crew jersey look like, anyway? Is there any standard template or style for what it’s is “supposed” to look like (tailoring, colors, home-vs.-road ettiquette, etc.), or is it just a freestyle kind of thing? Is there an acknowledged “classic,” like Yankee pinstripes or something like that?

MK: For years the rowing world went with the Oxford/Cambridge standard design, which was basically a “ringer” T-shirt with a few buttons at the collar. The diagonal stripe and the school letter are common, too. Remember, rowing is generally a conservative sport, and it’s horrible for spectators, so unis have never been a huge deal (outside of your shirt being taken by a faster crew). That said, with the increase in rowing apparel companies in the past few years, there’s a lot of radical designs making their way to the water. Princeton’s women wore tiger stripe unisuits last spring for a few races, and the German national team’s sponsorship by Deutsche Telecom led to some outrageous pink unis.

There’s no home vs. road. There are seasonal uni differences, fall vs, spring. Shirt racing usually takes place in the spring. In the fall, the races are 4000-6000 meters. Because of the longer time spent on the water (I’ve had races where I was out there for three hours with delays), the gear is long tights and long-sleve tech shirts made of Coolmax.

Another rowing uni phnomenon is the Stevenson. These are pullover jackets cut short in the front and very long in the back. The long flap in the back provides extra padding and waterproofing when tucked into the trou (for some reason, what everybody else calls “compresion shorts,” rowers call “trou”). Stevensons also have shoulder gussets to allow for the arms to reach out when placing the oar in the water. Stevenson is a company that became identified with the jackets, like Kleenex for tissues. Most of the nice ones today are made by Boathouse Sports.

J & L was the first company to do nothing but rowing gear, and they do all kinds of custom embroidery and color schemes for crews; most varsity programs have a new design each year. Clubs are on a tighter budget, and for fall races a trip to the discount store for wacky gear is common (different boats will wear different shirts). The Head of the Charles in Boston is the unoffical world rowing convention every year, and a lot of club crews make up specific gear/hats/glasses/headbands just for that race.

UW: What about logo-emblazoned oar blades?

MK: Yeah, I guess that could be considered part of the uniform. Most big regattas will have a T-shirt for sale showing all the blades of the different schools. They’re pretty cool. Down by the docks where crews lay their blades before they get in the boat, you can often find pile after pile of oars next to each other, and it makes a kind of rowing rainbow.

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Wow — big thanks to Matt for that crash course in rowing aesthetics. Here he is at Head of the Charles in 1999. “I liked wearing orange over my tech shirt,” he says, “because I was a big fan of the Dutch rowers at the time.”

And just to put a characteristic Uni Watch spin on this, it will come as no surprise to any of you that I managed to turn up this photo.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Good story here (and additional details here) about a Sikh kid in Pennsylvania who successfully challenged a ruling that he couldn’t wear his patka while playing soccer (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). … Reprinted from yesterday’s Comments section: Amazing polka-dot socks on the Collins Hill High girls’ hoops team in Georgia. … Todd Davis reports, “Iverson was just on local TV complaining that the Nuggets don’t have any colored or striped socks going on. ‘We’ll fix that,’ he said.” … A few gazillion people wrote in to inform me that Cal’s Marshawn Lynch didn’t have a nameplate on his jersey in last night’s Holiday Bowl. I’m not sure which is more depressing: the lack of quality control or the fact that so many people were actually watching the Holiday Bowl.

Long Weekend Schedule: We’ll have an open thread tomorrow, a short entry on Sunday, another open thread on Monday, and then back to regular content on Tuesday. OK? OK.

 

117 comments to Shirts Off Their Backs

  • Kyle O. | December 29, 2006 at 8:55 am |

    They also trade shirts in soccer. The higher the level the more often they get traded. In the world cup shirts get traded after every match but it is the players choice.

  • Tim | December 29, 2006 at 8:59 am |

    It isn’t required by any rules, except for maybe “unspoken” ones, but soccer players often trade jerseys after a match, especially internationally. Of course, in this way, even the loser goes home with a shirt. My roommate and his college soccer team took a training trip over the summer to Europe to play some junior teams of big clubs and came back with some awesome jerseys.

  • Banker Bill | December 29, 2006 at 9:01 am |

    Interesting read about the crew teams – when I went to High School, crew was for the elitists and the rich kids, and the assistant principal basically fawned all over the crew team (his daughter was a rower, and they were elitists too). As such, I basically paid no attention to them other than to roll my eyes when they would “walk on water” down the hallways. To think they actually had unis and not just t-shirts and bathing suits – I guess I never thought about it much.

  • ML | December 29, 2006 at 9:12 am |

    True (on the soccer shirts) — in fact for the World Cup, Umbro had every shirt they made labelled with the *opponents* name and the date of the match, so when the shirts were traded (and sold on eBay, is my guess), they could be verified authentic as to not only who wore them but in what match.

    You can kind of make it out under Beckham’s front number, and here’s a huge pic where you can almost make out that it says “England v Paraguay” under the number.

    One more huge one. Sorry for all the Beckham shots, not surprisingly those are the ones you can find the most of. Since the rest of the side was shite and all.

  • Stuby | December 29, 2006 at 9:13 am |

    I guess my only exposure to rowing were two bad 80’s movies ‘The Boy in Blue’ and ‘Oxford Blues’. Can’t recall whether there was any shirt exchanging going on in either.

    Cool uniforms and oars, though.

  • RAS | December 29, 2006 at 9:14 am |

    Difference between soccer and crew being in crew there’s no exchange. If you lose the race, you lose your jersey.

    That would have been a big problem for my high school basketball team, which in 1992 was I think still wearing the same unis in which the 1984 team had won a state championship. We would have had to have a bake sale or something if we stood a 50/50 shot (or worse) of losing our shirts every night.

    Also, could Lynch’s lack of a nameplate really be a quality control issue? Doesn’t there have to be a story there? It’s not like he’s some kind of special-teams-only, walk-on, practice dummy kind of guy. He’s, like, a good player and stuff.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 29, 2006 at 9:16 am |

    I think those “polka-dot socks” are actually little basketballs

  • Stormy | December 29, 2006 at 9:18 am |

    Great article, but one factual error. Men’s rowing could be an NCAA sport and keep the jersey swap. From the NCAA’s database:

    1. Long-Standing Tradition: (I) The provisions of NCAA Bylaw 10.3 are not applicable to a long-standing demonstrated tradition in a particular sport in which student-athletes from involved institutions exchange a tangible item (e.g., exchanging of shirts in the sport of rowing [emphasis mine]) contingent on the outcome of a competition, provided such activity is approved by the involved institutions. [References: 10.3 (gambling activities) and NCAA Interpretations Committee 11/26/96, Item No. 1)]

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 29, 2006 at 9:18 am |
  • Chris | December 29, 2006 at 9:30 am |

    When will there be a “I don’t give a shit Bowl presented by Nike”? ESPN will most likely pick up the rights to that game, hell, it’s football, right?

  • Banker Bill | December 29, 2006 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”36151″]Like these[/quote]
    Great catch and research Joe – I would have never even thought that.

  • Seth H | December 29, 2006 at 9:34 am |

    One other uni-related crew fact that I am surprised was not mentioned: Crew gave rise to the first “uniforms” worn in intercollegiate competition in the US.

    From the Harvard athletic department website: “June 19, 1858-Red Bandanas
    Harvard distinguishes itself from its competition when Charles W. Eliot ’53 purchases six red Chinese silk bandanas for his crew members to wear for that day’s regatta. It is believed to be the first time a sports team features an identifying mark. Eliot later serves as Harvard’s President from 1869 until 1909.”

    So crew in general (and Harvard crew in particular) is the genesis of much of what gets discussed on this site.

  • Seth H | December 29, 2006 at 9:37 am |

    One further note.

    This is, of course, where the Harvard “Crimson” nickname originates.

    In later races, Yale took to wearing blue bandanas. [Always second best.]

    Of course, we all know what color you get when you mix red and blue . . . .

  • Nick | December 29, 2006 at 9:42 am |

    Did anyone else notice that Texas A&M running back Jorvorskie Lane had an second decal on his helmet bumper last night. The second sticker was applied crooked so the original bumper plate was partically noticable. I couldn’t find a photo of it. Did anyone else catch this?

  • sully | December 29, 2006 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment=”36150″]Great article, but one factual error. Men’s rowing could be an NCAA sport and keep the jersey swap. From the NCAA’s database:

    1. Long-Standing Tradition: (I) The provisions of NCAA Bylaw 10.3 are not applicable to a long-standing demonstrated tradition in a particular sport in which student-athletes from involved institutions exchange a tangible item (e.g., exchanging of shirts in the sport of rowing [emphasis mine]) contingent on the outcome of a competition, provided such activity is approved by the involved institutions. [References: 10.3 (gambling activities) and NCAA Interpretations Committee 11/26/96, Item No. 1)][/quote]

    I think the problem is that there is not a jersey exchange, but rather the losers give up their jerseys, in effect, making it a bet.

  • Brooks | December 29, 2006 at 9:45 am |

    I just wanted to break some Nike haters stones a little, so I snapped a pic of my truck this morning. Thought you guys might enjoy it.

  • Pittsburgh Gunny | December 29, 2006 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”36145″]True (on the soccer shirts) — in fact for the World Cup, Umbro had every shirt they made labelled with the *opponents* name and the date of the match, so when the shirts were traded (and sold on eBay, is my guess), they could be verified authentic as to not only who wore them but in what match.

    You can kind of make it out under Beckham’s front number, and here’s a huge pic where you can almost make out that it says “England v Paraguay” under the number.

    One more huge one. Sorry for all the Beckham shots, not surprisingly those are the ones you can find the most of. Since the rest of the side was shite and all.[/quote]
    ARRRRRGGGGHHHH! I really didn’t need to see a shot of Cashley Cole this morning……
    ;)

  • Seth H | December 29, 2006 at 9:48 am |

    Last Harvard uni-related item of the day (I promise). Also from the Harvard athletics website: “June 4, 1875-Sharp-Dressed Men
    Harvard plays its first intercollegiate football game, hosting Tufts at Jarvis Field. Just as historic is that Harvard is outfitted in formal uniforms, believed to be the first time a team has been so identified. The squad is adorned in the newly-chosen school colors, with a uniform of white shirts and pants, with crimson trimming and crimson hose.”

  • Miguel | December 29, 2006 at 9:52 am |

    Anyone have any idea what site you might be able to find more rowing pics?

    I’m not sure if there are enough watermarks on the pic.

  • Brooks | December 29, 2006 at 9:53 am |

    It is safe to say that this pic is much worse than any of the Antonio Bryant pics.

  • Matt B | December 29, 2006 at 9:59 am |

    The thing about non-NCAA sports not counting in the title IX stats strikes me as very odd. If it is true, I wonder if there has been any discussion among the football powers to devise a football-only shadow NCAA? Two “benefits” (from the ADs’ points of view) that immediately come to mind are removal of 100+ male varsity athletes from the Title IX books and the ability to write your own recruiting / player benefits rules. Very interesting.

    OUC: former rowers, apparently wearing their prizes. Looks like Temple, ??, ??, Penn, Dartmouth, Cal, ??, Columbia, Cornell.

  • Matt B | December 29, 2006 at 10:11 am |

    NCAA reg:
    “…exchange a tangible item (e.g., exchanging of shirts in the sport of rowing) contingent on the outcome of a competition, provided such activity is approved…

    Sully:
    I think the problem is that there is not a jersey exchange, but rather the losers give up their jerseys, in effect, making it a bet.

    I think the “contingent on the outcome” language is the NCAA’s genteel way of describing a bet, so it would indeed be OK.

  • David | December 29, 2006 at 10:34 am |

    I’m not sure which is more depressing: the lack of quality control or the fact that so many people were actually watching the Holiday Bowl.

    I am a little offended by this. Aggie fans were excited to watch A&M play in a bowl game no matter which one it was, c’mon we have kinda sucked since Fran took over.

    Related to Marshawn Lynch’s nameplate missing, maybe he had to where one of LB Desmond Bishop’s jerseys since they share the same number.

    And as an unrelated side note: During the halftime show, a graphic with Marshawn Lynch’s stats had his named spelled Linch. ESPN should know better.

  • ML | December 29, 2006 at 10:47 am |

    To #17: Not surprisingly, Cashley is riding on someone’s back…

  • Kelli | December 29, 2006 at 10:48 am |

    There are a few of us who will tune in to watch the Aggies play even when they are getting their asses handed to them. They were certainly the best looking team on the field.

    The rowing info is cool. I can definitely see why the women wouldn’t trade the unitards. That would be sort of like wearing another chick’s bathing suit. Ewwwwwww!

  • Banker Bill | December 29, 2006 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”36179″]I’m not sure which is more depressing: the lack of quality control or the fact that so many people were actually watching the Holiday Bowl.

    I am a little offended by this. Aggie fans were excited to watch A&M play in a bowl game no matter which one it was, c’mon we have kinda sucked since Fran took over.

    Related to Marshawn Lynch’s nameplate missing, maybe he had to where one of LB Desmond Bishop’s jerseys since they share the same number.

    And as an unrelated side note: During the halftime show, a graphic with Marshawn Lynch’s stats had his named spelled Linch. ESPN should know better.[/quote]

    Every year it seems the Holiday Bowl is one of the more enjoyable bowl games – I don’t know why that is, but I seem to get hooked into it every year when I’m channel surfing.

  • Tim | December 29, 2006 at 10:56 am |

    Uni Related.

    Tenn. Titans play good when they look good. I’m not a fan of their color scheme, but their uni’s have looked better since going with the Houston Oilers-esque pants. Vince Young doesn’t hurt either.

    http://news.yahoo.co...

  • Andrew | December 29, 2006 at 11:06 am |

    Went to the Michigan basketball game last night vs. Army and noticed a few things different.

    Jevohn Shepherd had different shoes than the rest of U-M.

    Jarell Brown had different shoes than the rest of Army did

    I’m new at the flickr thing, so I just posted the photos from my album, if someone could help with flickr, it would be appreciated.

  • Stormy | December 29, 2006 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”36169″]The thing about non-NCAA sports not counting in the title IX stats strikes me as very odd. If it is true, I wonder if there has been any discussion among the football powers to devise a football-only shadow NCAA? Two “benefits” (from the ADs’ points of view) that immediately come to mind are removal of 100+ male varsity athletes from the Title IX books and the ability to write your own recruiting / player benefits rules. Very interesting.[/quote]

    That’s because it is odd. Title IX focuses on varsity sports. Wisconsin treats men’s rowing as varsity, Michigan as “club varsity,” whatever that is, and Virginia as club. Each school then treats men’s rowing differently for purposes of Title IX. Wisconsin counts it, Virginia doesn’t, and I can’t find Michigan’s EADA form to see what they do.

  • ACC (the Brain) | December 29, 2006 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”36185″]Uni Related.

    Tenn. Titans play good when they look good. I’m not a fan of their color scheme, but their uni’s have looked better since going with the Houston Oilers-esque pants. Vince Young doesn’t hurt either.

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    Hey it’s not about Young. It’s the whole team. The linemen like the navy monochromatic look for slimming effect. Other players wanted to try the light blue pants. The coach (who is extremely popular with his squad) listened to his players’ suggestions for different combos and let them have fun. No surprise that the team is playing well when there is such good rapport. It shows players do care about how they look and it helps when a coach gives them some input from game to game.

  • Jason | December 29, 2006 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”36165″]Last Harvard uni-related item of the day (I promise). Also from the Harvard athletics website: “June 4, 1875-Sharp-Dressed Men
    Harvard plays its first intercollegiate football game, hosting Tufts at Jarvis Field. Just as historic is that Harvard is outfitted in formal uniforms, believed to be the first time a team has been so identified. The squad is adorned in the newly-chosen school colors, with a uniform of white shirts and pants, with crimson trimming and crimson hose.”[/quote]

    Seth you failed to recognize in your over glorification of your ivy league school the very interesting story of Harvard and Fordham and how their school colors came to be.

    Magenta was used on the uniforms of Fordham’s “base-ball nines.” Magenta was also used by Fordham’s archrival, Harvard.
    Both institutions claimed prior right to use of magenta, and neither institution was willing to make concessions. Since it was “improper” for two schools to be wearing the same colors, the matter was to be settled by a series of baseball games. The winning team could lay claim to magenta. The losing team would have to find another color.

    Fordham won, but Harvard reneged on its promise.
    Ironic footnote: After Harvard kept magenta as its school color, Fordham adopted Maroon and shortly thereafter Harvard adopted Crimson.

    You don’t have to go to Harvard to quote websites

  • ML | December 29, 2006 at 11:18 am |

    Check out this picture of Ryan Howard. Do his Adidas stripes extend beyond the sole of his cleats, or is there a horizontal red stripe there for some reason?

  • dchis | December 29, 2006 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”36190″][quote comment=”36185″]Uni Related.

    Tenn. Titans play good when they look good. I’m not a fan of their color scheme, but their uni’s have looked better since going with the Houston Oilers-esque pants. Vince Young doesn’t hurt either.

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    Hey it’s not about Young. It’s the whole team. The linemen like the navy monochromatic look for slimming effect. Other players wanted to try the light blue pants. The coach (who is extremely popular with his squad) listened to his players’ suggestions for different combos and let them have fun. No surprise that the team is playing well when there is such good rapport. It shows players do care about how they look and it helps when a coach gives them some input from game to game.[/quote]

    What’s not about Young?? Their uniform combinations? Or the fact that they have been winning of late? Because the team has been playing well, but you take Vince off of that team and they aren’t close to being as good as they are with him.

  • Sammy44 | December 29, 2006 at 11:27 am |

    From an Auburn message board site:

    our guys will be wearing specially designed orange and blue under armor cleats in the cotton bowl.

    I haven’t seen a picture of them, so I don’t know how “orange and blue” they will be…but it will be different from the usual black cleats.

    Has anybody else heard anything about this?

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 29, 2006 at 11:31 am |

    [quote comment=”36187″]Went to the Michigan basketball game last night vs. Army and noticed a few things different.

    Jevohn Shepherd had different shoes than the rest of U-M.

    Jarell Brown had different shoes than the rest of Army did

    I’m new at the flickr thing, so I just posted the photos from my album, if someone could help with flickr, it would be appreciated.[/quote]

    You had some sweet seats my man!

    Also announced that the Ravens will be wearing all black on sunday.

  • Bob Sullivan | December 29, 2006 at 11:34 am |

    I rowed back in the 70s for Rollins College. We gave and got shirts several times. The Rollins rowing shirt had a horizontal stripe all the way around the shirt, difficult to do at that time since the stripe was dyed into the shirt before the shirt was put together. A cool shirt, and I still have one.

    Anyway, one of the boats had a female coxwain. She got a little nervous about the whole shirt thing, but solved it by wearing a tank top underneath her rowing shirt.

  • Pedro | December 29, 2006 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”36185″]Uni Related.

    Tenn. Titans play good when they look good. I’m not a fan of their color scheme, but their uni’s have looked better since going with the Houston Oilers-esque pants. Vince Young doesn’t hurt either.

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    I think the main problem with the Titans unis is the different colored shoulders, it looks horrible. If they took that off and made the jerseys one solid color, the uniforms would be more than descent and would actually look good.

  • ACC (the Brain) | December 29, 2006 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”36193″][quote comment=”36190″][quote comment=”36185″]Uni Related.

    Tenn. Titans play good when they look good. I’m not a fan of their color scheme, but their uni’s have looked better since going with the Houston Oilers-esque pants. Vince Young doesn’t hurt either.

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    Hey it’s not about Young. It’s the whole team. The linemen like the navy monochromatic look for slimming effect. Other players wanted to try the light blue pants. The coach (who is extremely popular with his squad) listened to his players’ suggestions for different combos and let them have fun. No surprise that the team is playing well when there is such good rapport. It shows players do care about how they look and it helps when a coach gives them some input from game to game.[/quote]

    What’s not about Young?? Their uniform combinations? Or the fact that they have been winning of late? Because the team has been playing well, but you take Vince off of that team and they aren’t close to being as good as they are with him.[/quote]

    Young has been awesome no doubt. Let’s give credit to the whole organization for going from 0-5 to possibly 9-7. It’s a remarkable turnaround. The unis combinations is also a team collaboration from what I gathered from the article. It makes the Titans easy root for this weekend vs. Patriots and next season as well. Not to mention their mascot ran over the Saints’ backup QB! Hilarious1 Long live the baby blue pants and all the uni combos.

  • Frank from B-more | December 29, 2006 at 12:22 pm |

    ALL BLACK ALERT:
    Ravens to wear All Black unis for Sunday’s finale against Buffalo. I like the jersey, but can’t stand the fact that they wear white shoes with these. For those of you who are anti-black, what other color should a team named the Ravens use as their alternate?

  • Frank from B-more | December 29, 2006 at 12:26 pm |

    LINKS:

  • ACC (the Brain) | December 29, 2006 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”36206″]ALL BLACK ALERT:
    Ravens to wear All Black unis for Sunday’s finale against Buffalo. I like the jersey, but can’t stand the fact that they wear white shoes with these. For those of you who are anti-black, what other color should a team named the Ravens use as their alternate?
    [/quote]

    I can’t relate to anyone who is so anti-black that he would not want the Ravens wearing black.

    Don’t like the Lions’ blacks? Fine.

    Ravens blacks look cool to me and should remain in the circuit.

  • Spenceohio | December 29, 2006 at 12:28 pm |

    I rowed at Ohio State in the mid 90’s. When we were at the Head of the Charles in ’95 (I think) the national team showed up with swooshes on their blades (at least for the warm-up sessions, can’t remember if they used them in the actual race). If I remember right, it was because Nike was trying to lock up as many of the olympic sports as it could before the Atlanta games, and had just inked a deal with USRowing.

    Around the same time, OSU’s women became a varsity program. Since OSU is a Nike school, they had to switch from JL unis to Nike unis, but the Nike ones were so bad that they went back to JL, and just had swooshes embroidered over the JL logos.

  • ML | December 29, 2006 at 12:29 pm |
  • ML | December 29, 2006 at 12:31 pm |

    Sorry, must’ve been a link hidden in the post I quoted.

  • DRob | December 29, 2006 at 12:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”36203″][quote comment=”36193″][quote comment=”36190″][quote comment=”36185″]Uni Related.

    Tenn. Titans play good when they look good. I’m not a fan of their color scheme, but their uni’s have looked better since going with the Houston Oilers-esque pants. Vince Young doesn’t hurt either.

    http://news.yahoo.co...

    Hey it’s not about Young. It’s the whole team. The linemen like the navy monochromatic look for slimming effect. Other players wanted to try the light blue pants. The coach (who is extremely popular with his squad) listened to his players’ suggestions for different combos and let them have fun. No surprise that the team is playing well when there is such good rapport. It shows players do care about how they look and it helps when a coach gives them some input from game to game.[/quote]

    What’s not about Young?? Their uniform combinations? Or the fact that they have been winning of late? Because the team has been playing well, but you take Vince off of that team and they aren’t close to being as good as they are with him.[/quote]

    Young has been awesome no doubt. Let’s give credit to the whole organization for going from 0-5 to possibly 9-7. It’s a remarkable turnaround. The unis combinations is also a team collaboration from what I gathered from the article. It makes the Titans easy root for this weekend vs. Patriots and next season as well. Not to mention their mascot ran over the Saints’ backup QB! Hilarious1 Long live the baby blue pants and all the uni combos.[/quote]

    Yep…its real funny that the Titans allowed this thing to drive a golf cart around people in general, with the mask on and everything.
    McPherson is suing. He got cut by the Saints soon after. He is currently in the Arena league (with the Austin Wranglers, as a backup).
    I hope he wins. No athlete deserves to have thier shot at the “big show” cut down by some teams stupidness.

  • Broker75 | December 29, 2006 at 12:39 pm |

    An ESPN sportsnation NHL poll asked where the Pittsburgh Penguins are gonna end up next year, the states surrounding Kansas City (Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, and Arkansas) were all in majority for having a team in Kansas City. The rest of the nation was in majority for the Penguins staying in Pittsburgh.
    just some interesting FYI (to me anyways)
    I think there will be support for a team there, they love there sports in that area. Nothin like some southern fried whatever tailgating before a Kansas City ?Scouts? game.
    But again, the Penguins belong in Pittsburgh.

  • Nolan | December 29, 2006 at 12:40 pm |

    Iverson obviously fixed that colored sock thing last night also he had on a baby blue shooter sleeve. Previously he has only had black or white.

  • WVU Tom | December 29, 2006 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”36210″][quote comment=”36206″]ALL BLACK ALERT:
    Ravens to wear All Black unis for Sunday’s finale against Buffalo. I like the jersey, but can’t stand the fact that they wear white shoes with these. For those of you who are anti-black, what other color should a team named the Ravens use as their alternate?
    [/quote]

    I doubt many people are anti-black. Most are anti-ALL black. You know, even the black shirt and black pants would be more tolerable if they weren’t wearing black socks and really really low whites. Paul has dubbed it the leotard effect.

    As far as an alternate, I’d suggest black shirts with the standard pants, as the Eagles do. They still look like the Eagles when they do that; the Ravens in their bodystockings look like the villain team from a bad high school football movie.[/quote]

    You beat me to it!

    I totally agree. As a Baltimore native and Ravens fan, I have been hoping to see the black jersey/white pants combo since the alternate unis debuted in 2004.

  • Nolan | December 29, 2006 at 12:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”36217″]Iverson obviously fixed that colored sock thing last night also he had on a baby blue shooter sleeve. Previously he has only had black or white.[/quote]
    OK, further review shows that is probably just yellow athletic tape. I guess it could be socks, but they are super thin if they are plus no NBA logo=NO NO.

  • Jeff I | December 29, 2006 at 12:48 pm |

    The Titans will most likely play well in whatever they wear Sunday as the Pats will be playing mostly reserves.

    Go Vinny!

  • The Gov'Nah | December 29, 2006 at 12:52 pm |

    Thanks to Paul and Matt. what a great read !

  • dchis | December 29, 2006 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”36215″]An ESPN sportsnation NHL poll asked where the Pittsburgh Penguins are gonna end up next year, the states surrounding Kansas City (Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, and Arkansas) were all in majority for having a team in Kansas City. The rest of the nation was in majority for the Penguins staying in Pittsburgh.
    just some interesting FYI (to me anyways)
    I think there will be support for a team there, they love there sports in that area. Nothin like some southern fried whatever tailgating before a Kansas City ?Scouts? game.
    But again, the Penguins belong in Pittsburgh.[/quote]

    Oh and they support the Royals really well. In 2006 they averaged 17,158 for a season total of 1,372,684 with the AL average for the season being 2,458,741. Well after all the Royals aren’t very good with a 62-100 record last year.

  • Chris | December 29, 2006 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”36169″]The thing about non-NCAA sports not counting in the title IX stats strikes me as very odd. If it is true, I wonder if there has been any discussion among the football powers to devise a football-only shadow NCAA? Two “benefits” (from the ADs’ points of view) that immediately come to mind are removal of 100+ male varsity athletes from the Title IX books and the ability to write your own recruiting / player benefits rules. Very interesting.[/quote]

    There was a College Football Association back in the 60’s-early90’s. They financed Oklahoma and Georgia’s law suit against the NCAA on television contracts. They still acted under NCAA rules and regulations though. If teams go outside the NCAA, they will not be as profitable as they are now.

  • PDXclark | December 29, 2006 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”36162″]I just wanted to break some Nike haters stones a little, so I snapped a pic of my truck this morning. Thought you guys might enjoy it.[/quote]

    I’m not an Nike-hater and don’t want this to become personal, but I have an honest question regarding your pride in the swoosh on your truck. Since you took the time to post a picture of it here, I hope you humor me with an explanation.
    What would motivate you to place the corporate logo of a company that has nothing to do with, or is in any way related to a truck, on a truck? I understand if you’ve got a Flowmaster, Edelbrock, or Hooker Header sticker, assuming those parts are in your car. While its still corporate whoring, it kind of makes sense.

    But why the swoosh? Do you work for Nike? Has Nike somehow done something to positively affect your life? In short, why are you essentially sacrificing space on your personal vehicle- space that you own, to pimp a corporate entity that is not related to the item and has done nothing for you except overcharge for shoes?

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 29, 2006 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”36218″][quote comment=”36210″][quote comment=”36206″]ALL BLACK ALERT:
    Ravens to wear All Black unis for Sunday’s finale against Buffalo. I like the jersey, but can’t stand the fact that they wear white shoes with these. For those of you who are anti-black, what other color should a team named the Ravens use as their alternate?
    [/quote]

    I doubt many people are anti-black. Most are anti-ALL black. You know, even the black shirt and black pants would be more tolerable if they weren’t wearing black socks and really really low whites. Paul has dubbed it the leotard effect.

    As far as an alternate, I’d suggest black shirts with the standard pants, as the Eagles do. They still look like the Eagles when they do that; the Ravens in their bodystockings look like the villain team from a bad high school football movie.[/quote]

    You beat me to it!

    I totally agree. As a Baltimore native and Ravens fan, I have been hoping to see the black jersey/white pants combo since the alternate unis debuted in 2004.[/quote]

    It was first on post #35…both of you were beat to it!!! I love the black on them…for 1 game!

  • WVU Tom | December 29, 2006 at 1:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”36228″][quote comment=”36218″][quote comment=”36210″][quote comment=”36206″]ALL BLACK ALERT:
    Ravens to wear All Black unis for Sunday’s finale against Buffalo. I like the jersey, but can’t stand the fact that they wear white shoes with these. For those of you who are anti-black, what other color should a team named the Ravens use as their alternate?
    [/quote]

    I doubt many people are anti-black. Most are anti-ALL black. You know, even the black shirt and black pants would be more tolerable if they weren’t wearing black socks and really really low whites. Paul has dubbed it the leotard effect.

    As far as an alternate, I’d suggest black shirts with the standard pants, as the Eagles do. They still look like the Eagles when they do that; the Ravens in their bodystockings look like the villain team from a bad high school football movie.[/quote]

    You beat me to it!

    I totally agree. As a Baltimore native and Ravens fan, I have been hoping to see the black jersey/white pants combo since the alternate unis debuted in 2004.[/quote]

    It was first on post #35…both of you were beat to it!!! I love the black on them…for 1 game![/quote]

    I apologize for not giving proper credit, as I did see your post was first!

    Specifically, I was refering to being beat to the comment of how much I want to see black jersey/white pants.

  • Miguel | December 29, 2006 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”36217″]Iverson obviously fixed that colored sock thing last night also he had on a baby blue shooter sleeve. Previously he has only had black or white.[/quote]

    It’s funny that AI would rather wear his old school shoes, rather than his new pieces of crap.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 29, 2006 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”36229″]
    I apologize for not giving proper credit, as I did see your post was first!

    Specifically, I was refering to being beat to the comment of how much I want to see black jersey/white pants.[/quote]

    I couldn’t agree more!!!!!

  • Minna H. | December 29, 2006 at 1:27 pm |

    All black, all the time. The Ravens (and the Panthers) should have all-black alternates, not just because I love all-black, but because it makes sense. Well, ok, mostly it’s for my benefit.

    PDXclark in #54, yeah, that. I was wondering the same thing, but you worded it much better than I would have.

  • WVU Tom | December 29, 2006 at 1:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”36231″][quote comment=”36229″]
    I apologize for not giving proper credit, as I did see your post was first!

    Specifically, I was refering to being beat to the comment of how much I want to see black jersey/white pants.[/quote]

    I couldn’t agree more!!!!![/quote]

    Fantastic! Now that combo looks good enough to replace the standard purple home unis!

  • WVU Tom | December 29, 2006 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”36233″][quote comment=”36231″][quote comment=”36229″]
    I apologize for not giving proper credit, as I did see your post was first!

    Specifically, I was refering to being beat to the comment of how much I want to see black jersey/white pants.[/quote]

    I couldn’t agree more!!!!![/quote]

    Fantastic! Now that combo looks good enough to replace the standard purple home unis![/quote]

    …forgot to add that I love that you tweaked the socks too.

  • Paul Lukas | December 29, 2006 at 1:39 pm |

    Today’s main post made reference to tiger-striped jerseys worn by the Princeton women’s team, but I didn’t have a photo. Happily, Matt Kowalski just provided one.

  • GoTerriers | December 29, 2006 at 1:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”36237″]Today’s main post made reference to tiger-striped jerseys worn by the Princeton women’s team, but I didn’t have a photo. Happily, Matt Kowalski just provided one.[/quote]

    Cincinnati Bengals, eat your hearts out!! How about “OchoCinco” coming out for warmups with one of those on! The NFL uni-police would have burst a blood vessel!

  • Teebz | December 29, 2006 at 1:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”36215″]An ESPN sportsnation NHL poll asked where the Pittsburgh Penguins are gonna end up next year, the states surrounding Kansas City (Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri, and Arkansas) were all in majority for having a team in Kansas City. The rest of the nation was in majority for the Penguins staying in Pittsburgh.
    just some interesting FYI (to me anyways)
    I think there will be support for a team there, they love there sports in that area. Nothin like some southern fried whatever tailgating before a Kansas City ?Scouts? game.
    But again, the Penguins belong in Pittsburgh.[/quote]

    ESPN polls are like any other stat. 32.7% of them mean nothing. ;o)

    Seriously, if you asked people in Manitoba and the surrounding cities if they wanted the Jets back, I’m sure there would be an overwhelming response to “yes”. KC wants a team, but I believe Bettman will do everything to keep the Penguins in Steeltown.

  • Teebz | December 29, 2006 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”36237″]Today’s main post made reference to tiger-striped jerseys worn by the Princeton women’s team, but I didn’t have a photo. Happily, Matt Kowalski just provided one.[/quote]

    The Cincinnati Thundercats’ cheerleaders have clearly found something else to do with their free time when they’re not cheering on convicted crimnals/getting recruited into the Bengals’ gang.

  • Minna H. | December 29, 2006 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”36245″][quote comment=”36237″]Today’s main post made reference to tiger-striped jerseys worn by the Princeton women’s team, but I didn’t have a photo. Happily, Matt Kowalski just provided one.[/quote]

    The Cincinnati Thundercats’ cheerleaders have clearly found something else to do with their free time when they’re not cheering on convicted crimnals/getting recruited into the Bengals’ gang.[/quote]

    Trying to eat here, Teebz. Not nice of you to make me almost spit out my food!

  • WVU Tom | December 29, 2006 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”36245″][quote comment=”36237″]Today’s main post made reference to tiger-striped jerseys worn by the Princeton women’s team, but I didn’t have a photo. Happily, Matt Kowalski just provided one.[/quote]

    The Cincinnati Thundercats’ cheerleaders have clearly found something else to do with their free time when they’re not cheering on convicted crimnals/getting recruited into the Bengals’ gang.[/quote]

    Don’t you mean the “Cheetaras”?

  • Teebz | December 29, 2006 at 2:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”36246″][quote comment=”36245″][quote comment=”36237″]Today’s main post made reference to tiger-striped jerseys worn by the Princeton women’s team, but I didn’t have a photo. Happily, Matt Kowalski just provided one.[/quote]

    The Cincinnati Thundercats’ cheerleaders have clearly found something else to do with their free time when they’re not cheering on convicted crimnals/getting recruited into the Bengals’ gang.[/quote]

    Trying to eat here, Teebz. Not nice of you to make me almost spit out my food![/quote]

    Sorry, Minna, but it had to be said. Besides, I’m sure that Who-Dat was probably dancing up a storm on the dock while the ladies were showing “Ocho Chumpo” how it takes a team to win, rather than one individual running his mouth.

  • Brooks | December 29, 2006 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”36227″][quote comment=”36162″]I just wanted to break some Nike haters stones a little, so I snapped a pic of my truck this morning. Thought you guys might enjoy it.[/quote]

    I’m not an Nike-hater and don’t want this to become personal, but I have an honest question regarding your pride in the swoosh on your truck. Since you took the time to post a picture of it here, I hope you humor me with an explanation.
    What would motivate you to place the corporate logo of a company that has nothing to do with, or is in any way related to a truck, on a truck? I understand if you’ve got a Flowmaster, Edelbrock, or Hooker Header sticker, assuming those parts are in your car. While its still corporate whoring, it kind of makes sense.

    But why the swoosh? Do you work for Nike? Has Nike somehow done something to positively affect your life? In short, why are you essentially sacrificing space on your personal vehicle- space that you own, to pimp a corporate entity that is not related to the item and has done nothing for you except overcharge for shoes?[/quote]

    Why do people place Oakley stickers, or Roxy stickers on their vehicles? I put the sticker on the truck because to me it is aesthetically pleasing. I choose to wear only Nike products. I feel it is a good brand, and I have always chosen to purchase Nike shoes, and athletic wear. I do not feel that I am in anyway “whoring” myself to a corporation. In order to do that I would have to be getting something in return, which I most certainly am not. I personally think the Nike Swoosh® is one of the classiest, most simple forms of corporate identity, and that is why I chose to put the sticker on my vehicle.

  • Cork | December 29, 2006 at 2:19 pm |

    those tiger stripes are pretty hideous…but even worse is the fact that two of the ladies have vertical stripes and two have horizontal stripes…and if they are going to wear a ‘uniform’ could they at least agree on the same color hat or even the same style? The whole thing just looks really sloppy.

  • Banker Bill | December 29, 2006 at 2:19 pm |

    Great little read here for all puckheads – with a nice uni jab at Oregon in the middle

  • Banker Bill | December 29, 2006 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”36247″][quote comment=”36245″][quote comment=”36237″]Today’s main post made reference to tiger-striped jerseys worn by the Princeton women’s team, but I didn’t have a photo. Happily, Matt Kowalski just provided one.[/quote]

    The Cincinnati Thundercats’ cheerleaders have clearly found something else to do with their free time when they’re not cheering on convicted crimnals/getting recruited into the Bengals’ gang.[/quote]

    Don’t you mean the “Cheetaras”?[/quote]

    I feel so honored – you are all using my reference from the other day…”I’M THE KING OF THE WORLD…or better yet, THUNDERCATS, HOOOOOOOOO!”

  • tessa | December 29, 2006 at 2:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”36244″]
    ESPN polls are like any other stat. 32.7% of them mean nothing. ;o)

    Seriously, if you asked people in Manitoba and the surrounding cities if they wanted the Jets back, I’m sure there would be an overwhelming response to “yes”. KC wants a team, but I believe Bettman will do everything to keep the Penguins in Steeltown.[/quote]

    From your fingers to God’s ears (or eyes?).

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 29, 2006 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”36235″]
    …forgot to add that I love that you tweaked the socks too.[/quote]

    Yeah, I have always thought that they should!

    I had to re-post the pic because I exceeded my bandwidth.

  • ML | December 29, 2006 at 2:34 pm |

    Mizzou is wearing black on black (I think it’s black at least), but they have a wide stripe on the pants, plus the standard college low-sock look, so they don’t look like uni-TARDS. Not the best, but way better than this.

  • Teebz | December 29, 2006 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”36255″]
    I feel so honored – you are all using my reference from the other day…”I’M THE KING OF THE WORLD…or better yet, THUNDERCATS, HOOOOOOOOO!”[/quote]

    Are you Carson Palmer? No wait, with a statement like that “Banker Bill” will now only be referred to as “Mucho Dinero Bill”. ;o)

  • ML | December 29, 2006 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”36258″][quote comment=”36235″]
    …forgot to add that I love that you tweaked the socks too.[/quote]

    Yeah, I have always thought that they should!

    I had to re-post the pic because I exceeded my bandwidth.[/quote]

    SOOOO much nicer. Maybe I wouldn’t hate the double knife murderer as much if he was wearing that.

    Nah, I still would.

    (Just kidding, Ray Ray, please don’t knife me)

  • Nolan | December 29, 2006 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”36237″]Today’s main post made reference to tiger-striped jerseys worn by the Princeton women’s team, but I didn’t have a photo. Happily, Matt Kowalski just provided one.[/quote]
    Umm, thanks Matt…I guess.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 29, 2006 at 2:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”36262″][quote comment=”36258″][quote comment=”36235″]
    …forgot to add that I love that you tweaked the socks too.[/quote]

    Yeah, I have always thought that they should!

    I had to re-post the pic because I exceeded my bandwidth.[/quote]

    SOOOO much nicer. Maybe I wouldn’t hate the double knife murderer as much if he was wearing that.

    Nah, I still would.

    (Just kidding, Ray Ray, please don’t knife me)[/quote]

    Thanks for reminding me of that…hehehe

  • Banker Bill | December 29, 2006 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”36261″][quote comment=”36255″]
    I feel so honored – you are all using my reference from the other day…”I’M THE KING OF THE WORLD…or better yet, THUNDERCATS, HOOOOOOOOO!”[/quote]

    Are you Carson Palmer? No wait, with a statement like that “Banker Bill” will now only be referred to as “Mucho Dinero Bill”. ;o)[/quote]

    Just because I’m a banker doesn’t mean I have “mucho dinero” – it’s like going to strip club. You get to look at it, put your hands on it a little, imagine what kind of fun you could have with it, but in the end, you have to leave it there when you go home.

  • nastykjn | December 29, 2006 at 3:20 pm |

    A friend of mine has a wall in his garage full of rowing jerseys from his days at U-Dub.

    I’m thoroughly enjoying the fact that all the bowl patches are covering Nike’s stupid-azz piping along the collar. Maybe the fact that this looks idiotic will convince the Swooshers to change. (probably not.)

  • Seth H | December 29, 2006 at 3:27 pm |

    You don’t have to go to Harvard to quote websites

    I was adding information about uniform history, one of the areas of discussion on this site.

    You engaged in an uncalled for personal attack.

  • David L | December 29, 2006 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”36192″]Check out this picture of Ryan Howard. Do his Adidas stripes extend beyond the sole of his cleats, or is there a horizontal red stripe there for some reason?[/quote]

    on several of adidas‘ baseball cleats, the stripes continue onto the sole of the shoe.

  • Ed Findlay | December 29, 2006 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”36253″]those tiger stripes are pretty hideous…but even worse is the fact that two of the ladies have vertical stripes and two have horizontal stripes…and if they are going to wear a ‘uniform’ could they at least agree on the same color hat or even the same style? The whole thing just looks really sloppy.[/quote]

    Actually they are uniform- look closely, vertical stripes for right(starboard) side oars, horizontal for left(port) side oars.

  • AJ | December 29, 2006 at 4:03 pm |

    Open question for discussion: Who do you all think has the best unis in college basketball right now? Indiana and UCLA are obvious choices with their old-school traditional look, but what new uniforms are the best?

  • Sean Janssen | December 29, 2006 at 4:07 pm |

    Washington State University crew (2003-2004)
    Everett Community College crew (2002-2003)

    Represent! At Everett, we were one of only two West Coast community colleges with a crew but left Orange Coast as the one and only after the sport was canceled following my sophomore year.

    I noticed someone said “crew team.” That’s a big no-no. Crew means team. So you can have a rowing team or a crew but not a “crew team.”

  • Thomas | December 29, 2006 at 4:13 pm |

    My understanding is that rugby teams exchange jerseys in a similar fashion to crew teams. I know at school (Amherst) I often see rugby players wearing Wesleyan and Williams jerseys that they have won. Perhaps it’s just a Little Three thing?

    On a completely different note about the Holiday Bowl, did anyone see the Cal OLB with “GOOGLE ME” written on his eye black stickers? I remembered that discussion from a while back, thought this was pretty clever. I have pictures, but I don’t know how to post them…

  • Banker Bill | December 29, 2006 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”36297″]Washington State University crew (2003-2004)
    Everett Community College crew (2002-2003)

    Represent! At Everett, we were one of only two West Coast community colleges with a crew but left Orange Coast as the one and only after the sport was canceled following my sophomore year.

    I noticed someone said “crew team.” That’s a big no-no. Crew means team. So you can have a rowing team or a crew but not a “crew team.”[/quote]

    That was me – and that shows how idiotic our crew was at my High School – their jackets even said “crew team.” Doesn’t matter either way…just like if someone calls a hockey jersey a “sweater” or a soccer club a “team”.

  • Kenny | December 29, 2006 at 4:27 pm |

    Non-uni related

    The definition of logo creep for all those who are confused

  • Brandon | December 29, 2006 at 4:37 pm |

    Kenny, how is that log creep? looks to me like a student”debit” card from UNT… could be missing something though

  • Kenny | December 29, 2006 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”36311″]Kenny, how is that log creep? looks to me like a student”debit” card from UNT… could be missing something though[/quote]

    Pretty sure it was just a student Id…well atleast that is what it said on the entry

  • Kenny | December 29, 2006 at 4:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”36314″][quote comment=”36311″]Kenny, how is that log creep? looks to me like a student”debit” card from UNT… could be missing something though[/quote]

    Pretty sure it was just a student Id…well atleast that is what it said on the entry[/quote]

    but i could be wrong…sorry for the double post…but if it is a student ID that is logo creep

  • Brandon | December 29, 2006 at 4:53 pm |

    Entirely possible, for the short semester I actually was in college the school had a dual ID/meal card thingamajig… had the PNC Bank logo on it I think

  • Banker Bill | December 29, 2006 at 4:58 pm |

    Well, I don’t know if I’ll see any of you this weekend…Happy New Year everybody. I’m off like a prom dress…..

  • ML | December 29, 2006 at 4:58 pm |

    Houston’s solid red unis (currently on ESPN) are the exact wrong shade of red, at least on my TV. Ugh.

  • Erc | December 29, 2006 at 5:03 pm |
  • TD | December 29, 2006 at 5:07 pm |

    I don’t have the green, so merry christmas.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    feel free to tip me the Steelers one if you win it. :)

  • TD | December 29, 2006 at 5:10 pm |

    I swear, those swift jerseys are a conspiracy between Nike and EA Sports to make video game CGI unis look more realistic through reverse-engineering. Gah.

  • Minna H. | December 29, 2006 at 7:07 pm |

    I like the unitard look. I was rooting for Missouri solely based on their unis despite the ugly yellow stripe up the legs, but their stupid prevent defense cost them the game at the end.

    Those Oregon St. unis were a nightmare of orange stripes. God, those unis are ugly.

    p.s. Hahahaha on the whole Thundercats thread. Cracks me up.

  • Teebz | December 29, 2006 at 7:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”36271″]
    Just because I’m a banker doesn’t mean I have “mucho dinero” – it’s like going to strip club. You get to look at it, put your hands on it a little, imagine what kind of fun you could have with it, but in the end, you have to leave it there when you go home.[/quote]

    Kind of like “Ocho Cinco-cat” and the Super Bowl? He gets to look at it, put his hands on the trophy, imagines what fun he could have with it, but in the end, he leaves it where he found it when he goes home? Or pays a Thundercats teammate to steal it for him?

  • ML | December 29, 2006 at 8:22 pm |

    Nooooo… the Purdue game just came on and my worst nightmare, Paul Maguire is doing color. ARGH.

    Purdue’s unis look sweet though!

  • Brandon | December 29, 2006 at 8:26 pm |

    what’s up with Maryland?

    Uni seems odd looking from sideline view… yellow piping and black seem to mesh together on TV

  • Anthony Verna | December 29, 2006 at 9:10 pm |

    The Maryland jerseys are annoying with the yellow trim. Ow.

  • Anthony Verna | December 29, 2006 at 9:14 pm |

    I have a question for the hockey guys around here.

    I’d like to buy a jersey for a friend of mine that’s in the style of the high school where she teaches. It’s a surprise.

    The jersey itself is not complicated. I have a picture.

    Would anyone know where to go to get a jersey like this?

    Thanks!

  • Allison | December 29, 2006 at 9:39 pm |

    I know that college football teams exchange team apparel before games/over the weekend. Atleast in the Big 12. Some of my good friends at Iowa State are on the football team and came to class on Mondays with Swoosh-ified pullover jackets, hooded sweatshirts, sweatpants, watches, etc. I believe they usually gave away long-sleeve tees and sweatshirts. Not the same as the rowing thing, but close.

  • Tako | December 29, 2006 at 9:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”36230″][quote comment=”36217″]Iverson obviously fixed that colored sock thing last night also he had on a baby blue shooter sleeve. Previously he has only had black or white.[/quote]

    It’s funny that AI would rather wear his old school shoes, rather than his new pieces of crap.[/quote]

    it’s probably because his new kicks aren’t made in powder blue yet, seeing as he just got traded, and the Questions come in like a jillion colors. i’m sure we’ll see a powder blue version in no time.

  • Johnny O | December 29, 2006 at 10:03 pm |

    I happen to like Maryland’s uniforms. They look really nice on my HD TV. Plus it’s cool they are outfitted by Under Armour. Very different looking. I like that.

  • Johnny O | December 29, 2006 at 10:29 pm |

    I also like the fact that Maryland decided to put their patches on their upper shoulders. Rather than try to cover up their normal chest logos and such.

  • JJ | December 30, 2006 at 12:09 am |

    Huh – surprised no one already mentioned that Game Cocks tight-end (starting to sound perverted) Robert Pavlovic had a Canadian flag sticker on the back of this helmet where the US flag usually is (He is from Mississaugu, ON). Or, more predictably someone mentioned it 4 months ago and I didn’t see it….. and YES, I was actually watching the Liberty Bowl.

  • JJ | December 30, 2006 at 12:11 am |

    [quote comment=”36385″]Huh – surprised no one already mentioned that Game Cocks tight-end (starting to sound perverted) Robert Pavlovic had a Canadian flag sticker on the back of this helmet where the US flag usually is (He is from Mississaugu, ON). Or, more predictably someone mentioned it 4 months ago and I didn’t see it….. and YES, I was actually watching the Liberty Bowl.[/quote]

    Son of a… link

  • bg | December 30, 2006 at 12:57 am |

    Barry Zito also gets to keep his No. 75 uniform, which he will don in black and orange for the first time Wednesday at a formal news conference at the ballpark.

  • Brian D J | December 30, 2006 at 2:37 am |

    OK not the greatest time for my first post but I found an old pic of the family an I think you gotta love my brothers sock choice (I’m the Little Blonde)

  • The Mole Man | December 30, 2006 at 9:59 am |

    [quote comment=”36334″]I like the unitard look. I was rooting for Missouri solely based on their unis despite the ugly yellow stripe up the legs, but their stupid prevent defense cost them the game at the end.

    Those Oregon St. unis were a nightmare of orange stripes. God, those unis are ugly.

    p.s. Hahahaha on the whole Thundercats thread. Cracks me up.[/quote]

    My eyes were burning out of my sockets watching this horrendeous display of UGLY, non-Traditional uniforms…as a resident of Missouri, (and unfortunately, a tax-payer who funds this “crap” on the field) Pinkel is, and will always be, a second-tier coach…and it’s a shame that a state with only one D-1 football school, has not performed better these past 25+ years…my God, look at the states of OK, KS, IA…why not MU?????????????

  • Kelli | December 30, 2006 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”36385″]Huh – surprised no one already mentioned that Game Cocks tight-end (starting to sound perverted) Robert Pavlovic had a Canadian flag sticker on the back of this helmet where the US flag usually is (He is from Mississaugu, ON). Or, more predictably someone mentioned it 4 months ago and I didn’t see it….. and YES, I was actually watching the Liberty Bowl.[/quote]

    He has a US flag and the Canadian flag. Mississauga is part of the metro Toronto area, so he’s really not all that Canadian.

    Gamecocks is one word, not two. And you have no idea how much fun it is to yell, “Go Cocks!” at sporting events.

  • Teebz | December 30, 2006 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”36354″]I have a question for the hockey guys around here.

    I’d like to buy a jersey for a friend of mine that’s in the style of the high school where she teaches. It’s a surprise.

    The jersey itself is not complicated. I have a picture.

    Would anyone know where to go to get a jersey like this?

    Thanks![/quote]

    My only advice would be that if the uniform is a patterned jersey, you may have to contact the school or look for blank jerseys online. Once that’s done, you’d have to provide a company with pictures of everything: logo, nameplate font, and any patches the team may wear. It might cost you an arm and a leg if you go full embroidery for a logo. They base the cost on colours and size of the logo.

    The one place that I know does custom uniforms is River City Sports. I know because I used to work there.

  • Steph | January 1, 2007 at 11:47 am |

    The only exception to the NCAA gambling rules is for “long-standing traditions.” The NCAA has specifically stated that rowing’s shirt-betting fits this exception. Most people–in fact, most university compliance officers–are not aware of the exception, but it exists and permits shirt-betting in women’s rowing. As a former college rower (and a current NCAA compliance officer for a Divison I university), I have to point out that we ladies are very proud of the betting shirts that we have earned–just like the guys are!

  • JW | January 2, 2007 at 2:08 am |

    Does this tradition of rowing’s make anyone else think of heraldry and coats-of-arms? Take a look at the medium arms of the Ausrtrian and Hungarian Empire. All the little coats included in the large shields represent areas that were controlled by the empire. In other words, if we defeat you, we get the representation of your team. I wonder if this is connected to rowing’s tradition. Considering rowing’s status as a upper-class, British, noble sport, I would not be surprised. Any rowing experts know?