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Lace-ism

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Consider the humble shoelace. Or better yet, let reader John Muir consider it for you:

Look at this picture of Marc Savard in Boston’s home uniform, complete with yellow laces. In the background is Tampa’s Brad Richards, with the standard white laces.

There’s something clean and beautiful about both players’ laces in that photo. Savard had worn white laces in previous stops with Calgary and the Rangers but switched to yellow soon after he was traded to Atlanta (before, after). Ovechkin has been going with the yellow laces, but it looks awkward, because yellow isn’t one of the Capitals’ colors. Jagr did it in Pittsburgh (cool) Washington (see: Ovechkin), and currently in the sewers of Manhattan (ugh). I’ve seen black laces before, but cannot find any sort of documentation. I think someone on Dallas.

What’s my point? Colored laces, with the right team, complete a uniform. I’m surprised more players don’t do it.

So is Muir in favor of, say, the Canadiens wearing blue or red laces, or the Devils wearing red laces? “I think it would look cool if done right,” he says. “Minnesota wouldn’t look too bad with Christmas-colored laces; the Isles could pair the orange third with orange laces and I’d be all for it.”

Intriguing concept (although one that I can’t really get behind). The most interesting thing about shoelaces, it seems to me, is how the protocols vary from sport to sport. In hockey, most players still wearing white laces against their black skates, creating a nice contrast (although there are more and more players wearing gold, including, as Michael Rich recently pointed out to me, Slava Kozlov). But football laces are largely contast-free, with lots of black laces on black shoes and white on white (although there are occasional exceptions, like Joey Porter’s gold laces, Greg Spires’s red, and Jim Maxwell’s orange). Back in the preseason, there were reports that Matt Hasselbeck, who wears black shoes, was actually instructed by the officials to trade in his white shoelaces for black, although I’m a bit skeptical of this, in part because Hasseleck had worn white laces in the past without incident.

MLB cleats and laces usually match, whether the color is black, blue, red, or white. There are some exceptions, however, and there are also situations where the laces match the trim instead of the shoe’s primary color. I also seem to recall some of the Reds wearing red laces a few years back, but I can’t remember the details. Anyone..?

NBA kicks are so elaborately designed these days that there’s no defining shoelace trend. For the most part, though, black sneakers are accessorized with matching black laces, while white shoes sometimes have colored laces and sometimes have white, which sometimes are designed to contrast against a colored tongue.

Getting back to hockey, there’s another kind of lacing to consider: the lace-up collar, which is usually white, as seen in these pics of the Islanders, Rangers (home, road), Coyotes, Oilers, Leafs, Blue Jackets, Avalanche, and Wild. A few teams, however, opt for dark laces, including the Thrashers and Flames.

Meanwhile, here’s a subject for further research: Several years back — maybe in the 1990s, before Uni Watch’s debut — I believe there was a company marketing sports shoelaces made with solid gold aglets (those are the little tips at the ends of laces). They were supposedly “premium” laces for “the athlete who demands the best,” or some bullshit like that. I can’t find any background info on this, though.

And finally, in the unlikely event that you want to know still more about shoelaces, look here.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Uni Watch publicist Carrie Klein came back from her family’s Xmas gathering with the following news: “My mom, unbeknownst to me until last night, collects old photos of kids in school (not sports) uniforms. The entire front hall of her condo is decorated with them. It’s nuts. There are striped socks aplenty! … Not quite uni-related, but I judged a pretty hilarious baseball-centric haiku contest a few days ago. Details here. … Take a close look at this photo of Hines Ward from Super Bowl XL. It almost looks like his right-leg stocking has a zipper running through it. … Interesting blog about uni numbers here. … Jesse Spector notes that the NFL Network, which runs lots of old NFL Films footage during the day, is offering a free preview on many cable systems this week (Ch. 199 on Time Warner systems in New York). “Today I watched the season films of the ’69 Chiefs and ’82 Jets,” he writes. “Noticed lots of uniform stuff, like Willie Lanier’s helmet having a big bump in the middle, the huge numbers the Jets had on their shoulder pads in the ’80s, and stuff like the Chiefs having their helmet and the opposing team’s helmet painted together at midfield for home games.” … Check out what Tom Hoffman got for Christmas. … Odd typography at Middle Tennessee State, as observed by Alan Topolski, who writes: “It seems like MTSU has a font size for the nameplate that changes depending on the length of the player’s last name.” The only other team I can think of that did something similar was the bumblebee-era Pirates, as seen on the Lee Lacy jersey shown in this page from Bill Henderson’s indispensable Double Knit Era Collector’s Reference.

 

149 comments to Lace-ism

  • ML | December 27, 2006 at 8:50 am |

    Don’t the Revolution helmets now have a similar raised section in the middle (like the Lanier one)? Maybe he was on to something *very* early… or maybe he had an alien head.

  • ML | December 27, 2006 at 8:54 am |
  • Ron | December 27, 2006 at 8:56 am |

    The Revolution helmet does have a slight raise, but that raise in the Lanier helmet is friggin’ huge!

  • Nick Maibroda | December 27, 2006 at 9:06 am |

    Good observation about the laces on hockey skates. The reason for different colours are because there are two different types of laces, waxed and regular. The waxed laces are yellow and tend to give a tighter fit when tying the skates up. Most of the white ones are not waxed. It just depends on a players preference. It is possible that there are now waxed laces in different colours, but to any older hockey player, they know yellow laces equals waxed laces.

  • TBDRO | December 27, 2006 at 9:07 am |

    Re: A font size for the nameplate that changes depending on the length of the player’s last name

    I believe the University of Tennessee football team did this at one point as well.

  • Jeffrey Fedenko | December 27, 2006 at 9:11 am |

    Willie Lanier’s helmet was a special padded helmet that had padding on the exterior. Check helmethut.com in the NFL section for info on the Chiefs/Lanier helmet. (Sorry no direct link.)

  • Steve Prudente | December 27, 2006 at 9:15 am |

    [quote comment=”35547″]Re: A font size for the nameplate that changes depending on the length of the player’s last name

    I believe the University of Tennessee football team did this at one point as well.[/quote]

    Yea I think it was during Peyton Manning’s tenure, not sure if they still do it nowadays.

  • Jonathon | December 27, 2006 at 9:16 am |

    One football team that still sports white laces on black cleats is Alabama. The Tide briefly flirted with white shoes during the 80s, but Bill Curry switched them back to the traditional black, and most of the players opt to wear the Stabler/Namath – esque black cleats with white laces.

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  • Joe Hilseberg | December 27, 2006 at 9:16 am |

    You don’t see this too often…good for him!

  • Jonathon | December 27, 2006 at 9:19 am |

    Here’s Stabler wearing the white laces with black cleats at Alabama back in the 60s:

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    Stabler continued to do so with the Raiders in the 70s:

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  • Brooks | December 27, 2006 at 9:22 am |

    On a uni Christmas note, I got this as a gift. My little sister is a sophmore at BU and has become a big hockey fan. I thought this was an awesome gift. And before any of you make any “logo creep” or “evil empire” comments, I love Nike products and the Nike brand.

  • ML | December 27, 2006 at 9:25 am |

    Logo creep! Evil empire!

  • Brooks | December 27, 2006 at 9:25 am |

    USC wears white laces as well.

  • Banker Bill | December 27, 2006 at 9:28 am |

    [quote comment=”35546″]Good observation about the laces on hockey skates. The reason for different colours are because there are two different types of laces, waxed and regular. The waxed laces are yellow and tend to give a tighter fit when tying the skates up. Most of the white ones are not waxed. It just depends on a players preference. It is possible that there are now waxed laces in different colours, but to any older hockey player, they know yellow laces equals waxed laces.[/quote]

    I currently have black laces in my skates because I broke one a couple of weeks ago, but I love the concept of matching the laces with a uni color. I think Savard looks great – except for the stupid uni number. Heck, anything to keep my eyes away from the new jerseys that they’re going to debut at the All-Star game.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 27, 2006 at 9:29 am |

    [quote comment=”35557″]On a uni Christmas note, I got this as a gift. My little sister is a sophmore at BU and has become a big hockey fan. I thought this was an awesome gift. And before any of you make any “logo creep” or “evil empire” comments, I love Nike products and the Nike brand.[/quote]

    But one day it may end up like this!!!!!

  • Jonathon | December 27, 2006 at 9:29 am |

    Of course, Joe Namath broke with the trend and wore his signature white shoes, even at Alabama.

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    But here’s a weird shot of him nursing his knee with ice, while wearing bermuda shorts, but he still has his jersey and shoulder pads on.

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  • Jay Palmer | December 27, 2006 at 9:32 am |

    [quote comment=”35562″][quote comment=”35557″]On a uni Christmas note, I got this as a gift. My little sister is a sophmore at BU and has become a big hockey fan. I thought this was an awesome gift. And before any of you make any “logo creep” or “evil empire” comments, I love Nike products and the Nike brand.[/quote]

    But one day it may end up like this!!!!![/quote]

    Forgetting the evil empire stuff…

    Take away the Boston on the second jersey, focus purely on the aesthetics…that’s not a bad looking jersey.

    Yes, they put it on EVERYTHING, but the swoosh is a very simple, very nice logo.

    Let the bashing begin

  • GentleWhoadie9000 | December 27, 2006 at 9:35 am |

    Maibroda-

    they do make wax laces in most colors now, although yellow laces are always waxed. It’s a stylistic thing- mainly for euro players, or flashy types.

  • Paul Lukas | December 27, 2006 at 9:36 am |

    [quote comment=”35565″]Yes, they put it on EVERYTHING, but the swoosh is a very simple, very nice logo.[/quote]

    I completely agree. One of the most unfortunate aspects of Nike’s world-domination scheme is that they’ve completely besmirched an excellent piece of design. Too bad.

  • todd krevanchi | December 27, 2006 at 9:37 am |

    some jersey numbers just look good on a player and the number 12 in that block style font (bama, penn st.) just looks cool…

  • Nolan | December 27, 2006 at 9:39 am |

    [quote comment=”35557″]On a uni Christmas note, I got this as a gift. My little sister is a sophmore at BU and has become a big hockey fan. I thought this was an awesome gift. And before any of you make any “logo creep” or “evil empire” comments, I love Nike products and the Nike brand.[/quote]

    Sweet jersey, but you have to agree the logo on a hockey sweater belongs on the back right hemline.

  • Ryan Dempsey | December 27, 2006 at 9:40 am |

    Eric Davis sporting the red laces.

  • UwantRadie | December 27, 2006 at 9:55 am |

    The thing about Logo Creeps is that they occasionally serve the greater good. While i still am annoyed by most of them, I do see some that are actually good. When you see a soccer field or basketball court with a big Nike Swoosh on it, you automatically think that Nike is destroying the integrity of the sport but if Nike didnt pay for that court to be built then would it have ever been? If Nike puts up a bunch of courts and fields all over the world, then they should be allowed to advertise on the courts that they paid for. Obviously they dont care about the people that play on them, they just want the advertising and revenue that comes from it but the end result is still the same. A court was built where one wasnt before. Some kids are going to grow up with a place to play ball where they might otherwise not have had the chance.

    The same goes for colleges to a lesser degree. If Nike wants to pay for the equipment of a team and possibly save some money for the school, then why shouldnt they get to put their logo on the jersey?

    I get annoyed when it is overdone or grossly tactless.

    In essence, what I am saying is dont be so quick to write off every Logo Creep.

  • ML | December 27, 2006 at 10:00 am |

    What is the *best* logo creep ever?

    I submit:

    McMahon’s rebellious Adidas neckband — only because he was wearing it not only to support Adidas but to tick off the NFL infrastructure.

  • Texas_Islander | December 27, 2006 at 10:01 am |

    Can’t forget Jamie Moyer’s cleat/lace/stirrup combination. If he could figure out his pant length he would be one of the best dressed in baseball.

    Getting away from the shoelace theme, I think the “Maddux” half-up-half-down look is horrible. I would even take the pj look over that. But this look takes the cake.

  • ML | December 27, 2006 at 10:03 am |

    No idea why my link failed above… here’s McMahon

  • mg12 | December 27, 2006 at 10:24 am |

    I just recently came across my nomination for the worst logo creep.

    Bill Snyder was the greatest football coach in Kansas State history. He has written a few books in the past, but in June of 06 he released his most recent, an autobiography that chronicles the journey of transforming a laughing-stock football program into one of the country’s more elite programs. This book should be viewed as a great personal achievement, but comes off as a strange Nike-esque advertisement due to the cover, sad.

    http://www.shopvarne...

  • Kelli | December 27, 2006 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”35552″]You don’t see this too often…good for him![/quote]

    As a combat veteran, it makes me proud when someone chooses the military path. It is difficult to watch your son go off to war. The hardest thing to do is respect his decision even when you don’t agree with it. I wish this young man much luck in his endeavour.

    However, I find it amusing that the article lists his training as, ‘Officer Cadet School.’ I went to Officer Candidate School. This cadet course must be for the Boy Scouts….or Air Force. :)

  • MattyJ | December 27, 2006 at 10:32 am |

    I know there have been some posts recently about the new NHL uniforms. Just wondering if anyone has heard anything more than what has already been posted here. I do find it odd that the NHL didn’t even put the All Star Game sweaters on sale in time for Christmas. RBK and the league must really be scared about what the public reaction is going to be. That doesn’t instill a lot of confidence in what is coming. I also find it unfortunate that the league is letting RBK shove the new designs down its throat. Shouldn’t it be the NHL telling the manufactuer what it wants and not the other way around? As his been mentioned here many times, we have seen the epidemic of “template” unis (e.g., college football, the new MLB batting practice jerseys). I hope this is a trend that is stopped soon. Hopefully the public outcry over the new NHL unis will be so overwhelming that the league and RBK will be forced to run shelve this idea permanently.

  • girard31 | December 27, 2006 at 10:39 am |

    Speaking of Namath and Alabama, I was thumbing through a book on Namath at the bookstore last week, and in it was a photo of him playing in a game where some of the Bama players have red helmets on and some have white. It looked like the guys with white helmets were backs and receivers. There seemed to be a trend in the 60’s to have receivers have different helmet markings. Is this what was going on here?

  • cheechoo | December 27, 2006 at 10:43 am |

    The primary reason for those yellow laces is many models of Graf brand skates come with them-especially the higher-end models that pros would wear.

  • Teebz | December 27, 2006 at 10:44 am |

    [quote comment=”35594″]I know there have been some posts recently about the new NHL uniforms. Just wondering if anyone has heard anything more than what has already been posted here. I do find it odd that the NHL didn’t even put the All Star Game sweaters on sale in time for Christmas. RBK and the league must really be scared about what the public reaction is going to be. That doesn’t instill a lot of confidence in what is coming. I also find it unfortunate that the league is letting RBK shove the new designs down its throat. Shouldn’t it be the NHL telling the manufactuer what it wants and not the other way around? As his been mentioned here many times, we have seen the epidemic of “template” unis (e.g., college football, the new MLB batting practice jerseys). I hope this is a trend that is stopped soon. Hopefully the public outcry over the new NHL unis will be so overwhelming that the league and RBK will be forced to run shelve this idea permanently.[/quote]

    The NHLPA is their biggest stumbling block right now. I reported a few weeks ago that the NHLPA is unhappy with the jerseys, and they voted down the tuck-in rule as well as the changing of the Maple Leafs logo. The reason the All-Star jerseys haven’t gone on sale is that the NHL is planning a big ceremony in Dallas in regards to the new jerseys. You won’t see them before February.

  • DenverGregg | December 27, 2006 at 10:51 am |

    Yesterday I checked out one of PL’s sidebar links and then tried, without success to find what’s described as follows: “In 1936, the [Chicago Bears] team unveils a uniform described years later by an NFL publication as ‘an early version of psychodelia [sic].’ Bruising fullback Bronko Nagurski and his mates wear a dark helmet with three orange stripes from front to back, a white jersey with 14 navy and orange alternating stripes on the sleeves and shoulders. The socks look like something the Munchkins would wear in the Land of Oz, with alternating navy and orange stripes from the ankle to the knee. The look lasts just one year.”

    I’d love to see that! Of course with today’s sleeve lengths the sleeve stripes would have to be about a millimeter wide.

    Google gives a few results for the ’36 Bears, but the ones I found all showed more conventional uni looks.

  • Paul Lukas | December 27, 2006 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”35594″]I do find it odd that the NHL didn’t even put the All Star Game sweaters on sale in time for Christmas.[/quote]

    Not only that, but if you go to the January schedule listing on NHL.com, the All-Star Game isn’t even listed. The schedule just jumps from Jan. 20th to the 26th. It’s almost like they’re ashamed of their own showcase.

  • Anthony Verna | December 27, 2006 at 10:58 am |

    Was anyone expecting the NHL to do something . . . right? When did that last happen?

    [quote comment=”35602″][quote comment=”35594″]I do find it odd that the NHL didn’t even put the All Star Game sweaters on sale in time for Christmas.[/quote]

    Not only that, but if you go to the January schedule listing on NHL.com, the All-Star Game isn’t even listed. The schedule just jumps from Jan. 20th to the 26th. It’s almost like they’re ashamed of their own showcase.
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  • drjwtexas | December 27, 2006 at 10:59 am |

    While looking for Tennessee name plates I found this Tennessee State 1930’s picture.

    Nice strips.

  • Teebz | December 27, 2006 at 11:05 am |

    [quote comment=”35604″]Was anyone expecting the NHL to do something . . . right? When did that last happen?[/quote]

    The NHL has done many things right in the last year. Scoring is up slightly, the excitement is back, and the fans have returned in traditional markets.

    Let’s not forget that we’re talking about a sport that ranked behind the Westminster Dog Show in terms of TV ratings thanks to the Neutral Zone Trap (that’s like a swear to us hockey purists).

  • Paul Lukas | December 27, 2006 at 11:11 am |

    I’ve got the NFL Network on (gotta love that freebie), and they’re showing Super Bowl VI. First SB I ever watched (I was 7 yrs old), and one of the worst of all time, but some great uni bits: The Cowboys took the field wearing amazing baseball-style jackets; the chain gang guys are wearing red stirrups; the Dolphins have orange belts; etc., etc.

    They just showed upteen replays of that horrible 23-yard sack of Griese. As a kid, I think that’s when I knew the game was over.

  • MattyJ | December 27, 2006 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”35604″]Was anyone expecting the NHL to do something . . . right? When did that last happen?

    [quote comment=”35602″][quote comment=”35594″]I do find it odd that the NHL didn’t even put the All Star Game sweaters on sale in time for Christmas.[/quote]

    Not only that, but if you go to the January schedule listing on NHL.com, the All-Star Game isn’t even listed. The schedule just jumps from Jan. 20th to the 26th. It’s almost like they’re ashamed of their own showcase.
    [/quote][/quote]

    Unfortunatley, you’re right. The NHL hasn’t done anything right for years. I had high hopes for Nettman when he became commissioner. I thought the NHL was on the precipce of becoming something huge. But then came the strike after the ’94-’94 season and they couldn’t capitilize on the great story of the Rangers’ Stanley Cup victory, then a decade later the cancelled season. THe NHL has been condemned to be run by a bunch of boobs. Bettman isn’t the first. Remember the “invisible commissioner,” John Ziegler. Nobody could find the guy while the whole fiasco over the refs and Jim Schoenfeld’s suspension was going on during the Devils vs. Bruins Wales Conference Finals was going on (the infamous “Have another donut” incident).

    They can improve the game without killing all of its traditions. By the way, I’ve read in The Hockey News recently that the league is toying with the idea of increasing the size of the nets to increase scoring.

  • Teebz | December 27, 2006 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”35611″]

    Unfortunatley, you’re right. The NHL hasn’t done anything right for years. I had high hopes for Nettman when he became commissioner. I thought the NHL was on the precipce of becoming something huge. But then came the strike after the ’94-’94 season and they couldn’t capitilize on the great story of the Rangers’ Stanley Cup victory, then a decade later the cancelled season. THe NHL has been condemned to be run by a bunch of boobs. Bettman isn’t the first. Remember the “invisible commissioner,” John Ziegler. Nobody could find the guy while the whole fiasco over the refs and Jim Schoenfeld’s suspension was going on during the Devils vs. Bruins Wales Conference Finals was going on (the infamous “Have another donut” incident).

    They can improve the game without killing all of its traditions. By the way, I’ve read in The Hockey News recently that the league is toying with the idea of increasing the size of the nets to increase scoring.[/quote]

    Again, the game evolved into a defensive stand-still. It happened in the NBA, it happened in MLB, and it happened with the NHL. The biggest evolution in the NHL was the quality of goaltending, and it started with Patrick Roy in 1983. Notice how he was successful for two decades without changing his style. You can’t say that about Grant Fuhr. You can’t say that about Tom Barrasso. You can’t even say that about Chris Osgood. Goaltending, over the last 20 years, has improved exponentially compared to the earlier eras of the NHL.

    And the NHL has already killed the idea of making the nets larger.

  • Matty L. | December 27, 2006 at 11:25 am |

    I used to do stupid crap to match up little things with the uniform, usually just the colour I’d tape my stick up would match my jersey colour. It was always only me until one season in my late teens where it caught on pretty quick and eventually my line, and a couple of defencemen had their sticks taped green (our goalie also rocked a green bandana under his mask, I also had a green mouthguard).

    I also wore waxed laces for much of my life, younger years it was just to make tying them easier (although waxed laces hurt your hand like a mother) and then later on I just kept buying them as a force of habit. I noticed that they didn’t tear as easy as non-waxed ones. Non-waxed laces guys would go through about 2 laces a season per skate, waxed I went 2 years without changing them. The only drawback I ever saw to them was that they’d leave an ugly stain on the tongue of the skate in whatever colour the wax was. When I finally bought nice skates I ended the tradition and bought plain old black laces.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 27, 2006 at 11:26 am |

    How did Nike get him to do this???

  • Jonathon | December 27, 2006 at 11:29 am |

    look at the entry for 1962 for the answer concerning white helmets on Alabama players:

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  • ML | December 27, 2006 at 11:33 am |

    Paul, you gotta sub to NFL Network… it is nonstop old footage; fantastic uni bits.

  • Banker Bill | December 27, 2006 at 11:35 am |

    [quote comment=”35609″][quote comment=”35604″]Was anyone expecting the NHL to do something . . . right? When did that last happen?[/quote]

    The NHL has done many things right in the last year. Scoring is up slightly, the excitement is back, and the fans have returned in traditional markets.

    Let’s not forget that we’re talking about a sport that ranked behind the Westminster Dog Show in terms of TV ratings thanks to the Neutral Zone Trap (that’s like a swear to us hockey purists).[/quote]

    If you use that “NZT” word again, I’ll wash your mouth out with soap. That’s as bad as that Left Wing Lock.

    I agree the product is better – but Colin Campbell recently said they’ll be looking at expanding the nets…I don’t want to see bigger nets – I want to see the icing touch up eliminated, I want to see officials get back to calling penalties, not little shirt tugs – and I want to see the Rangers go more than one game without a 5 on 3 against them.

  • Pittsburgh Gunny | December 27, 2006 at 11:45 am |

    I think the NHL game of today is very entertaining. The only thing I would change is to get rid of the regular season overtimes and let a tie be worth 1 point.

    BTW, John Ziegler was the President of the NHL not Commissioner. Bettman is the 1st one to have that title, although I am not sure of the differences in duties.

  • Banker Bill | December 27, 2006 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”35626″]I think the NHL game of today is very entertaining. The only thing I would change is to get rid of the regular season overtimes and let a tie be worth 1 point.

    BTW, John Ziegler was the President of the NHL not Commissioner. Bettman is the 1st one to have that title, although I am not sure of the differences in duties.[/quote]

    No more ties!! No more ties!! No more ties!!
    (Can I stress enough how much the tie needs to stay out of the NHL?)

  • MattyJ | December 27, 2006 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”35626″]I think the NHL game of today is very entertaining. The only thing I would change is to get rid of the regular season overtimes and let a tie be worth 1 point.

    BTW, John Ziegler was the President of the NHL not Commissioner. Bettman is the 1st one to have that title, although I am not sure of the differences in duties.[/quote]

    Agreed. The NHL is more fun to watch today then was the pre-lock out game. That said, the “non-game” related changes Bettman, et al have made have left much to be desired.

    Ziegler was a buffon, no matter what his title.

    Here’s hoping that the Rangers keep the diagonal “RANGERS” and don’t make the Staute of Liberty head their new primary jersey logo I also don’t want to see a return to the shield logo on the jersey either.

  • MattyJ | December 27, 2006 at 12:00 pm |

    And by “buffon” I mean “buffoon.”

  • Anthony Verna | December 27, 2006 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”35633″]And by “buffon” I mean “buffoon.”[/quote]

    I thought you meant this:

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  • ToasterPoodle | December 27, 2006 at 12:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”35567″][quote comment=”35565″]Yes, they put it on EVERYTHING, but the swoosh is a very simple, very nice logo.[/quote]

    I completely agree. One of the most unfortunate aspects of Nike’s world-domination scheme is that they’ve completely besmirched an excellent piece of design. Too bad.[/quote]
    I am with you Paul,
    I remember in middle school WANTING to wear a nike wristband, just because the swoosh looked so cool.
    Too bad they made me hate it.

  • ToasterPoodle | December 27, 2006 at 12:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”35571″]Eric Davis sporting the red laces.[/quote]
    dig the one hi-top, one low-top shoes

  • Anthony Verna | December 27, 2006 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”35638″]I am with you Paul,
    I remember in middle school WANTING to wear a nike wristband, just because the swoosh looked so cool.
    Too bad they made me hate it.[/quote]

    But that’s a part of the fun of branding and of seeing companies handle their brands. They might mean quality, and we might all accept that. But we (as consumers of the brands) also know when they go too far. We (consumers) then begin to reject the brands.

  • John | December 27, 2006 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”35627″][quote comment=”35626″]I think the NHL game of today is very entertaining. The only thing I would change is to get rid of the regular season overtimes and let a tie be worth 1 point.

    BTW, John Ziegler was the President of the NHL not Commissioner. Bettman is the 1st one to have that title, although I am not sure of the differences in duties.[/quote]

    No more ties!! No more ties!! No more ties!!
    (Can I stress enough how much the tie needs to stay out of the NHL?)[/quote]

    Like normal clothing on Barry Melrose, ties are just pointless.

    (Ha! That’s funny…)

  • bluenoser | December 27, 2006 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”35566″]Maibroda-

    they do make wax laces in most colors now, although yellow laces are always waxed. It’s a stylistic thing- mainly for euro players, or flashy types.[/quote]
    The appearance of waxed laces has indeed increased due to use by European players but for the most part it is not a stylistic thing!! It has to do with the brand of skates many of them use, Graf!! Graf is a company that was founded in Switzerland some 80 yrs or so ago and for the most part, yellow waxed laces come standard on there skates. While I am sure there is the odd player that chooses the yellow because they think it’s cool,for the most part it is what they have used their whole lives and as the Graf brand has increased in popularity so has the occurence of yellow laces in the NHL! Oh by the way, I wear Graf and they are the best!!

  • Teebz | December 27, 2006 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”35623″]
    If you use that “NZT” word again, I’ll wash your mouth out with soap. That’s as bad as that Left Wing Lock.[/quote]

    I apologize for my language, Bill. :o)

    [quote comment=”35623″]
    I agree the product is better – but Colin Campbell recently said they’ll be looking at expanding the nets…I don’t want to see bigger nets – I want to see the icing touch up eliminated, I want to see officials get back to calling penalties, not little shirt tugs – and I want to see the Rangers go more than one game without a 5 on 3 against them.[/quote]

    The NHL has dismissed larger nets as an idea that will never happen. It will ruin hockey as we know it. Thery know this, and, although they talk about it, it will never happen.

    As for touch-up icing, this has been demanded by many people over the years. After Pat peake had his career ruined by tearing all the tendons and ligaments in his ankle by crashing into the boards full speed going for an icing, this is a hot topic. Brad Bombardir, when he was playing in the AHL, had his leg broken and missed half a season. With the rules as they are today in the NHL where a team cannot change players if they ice the puck, this rule should be changed for safety reasons.

    The “shirt tugs” aren’t as bad as you think, but it was that kind of obstruction that was slowing down the NHL’s best players. With Crosby and Jagr and Malkin and Kovalchuk and Hossa being able to skate and not worry about being held or obstructed, the NHL has become exciting and fast-paced again. Besides, Bill… with the complaints about refs calling obstruction, you’d think you were a NZT Devils’ fan. :oP

  • chris | December 27, 2006 at 12:29 pm |

    I went to a high school game last night and to my horror the team my alma mater was playing was wearing the ohiostate/SIU/mutiple other team template IN PURPLE AND BLACK!!!!! Paul’s soul might have died if he saw it.

  • Matt from the 'Ville | December 27, 2006 at 12:41 pm |

    Has the NBA always imprinted the home teams names on the balls being used??? L ook at this picture you can clearly read Orlando Magic. Or is this some new with the “new ball

  • Richard | December 27, 2006 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”35643″][quote comment=”35627″][quote comment=”35626″]I think the NHL game of today is very entertaining. The only thing I would change is to get rid of the regular season overtimes and let a tie be worth 1 point.

    BTW, John Ziegler was the President of the NHL not Commissioner. Bettman is the 1st one to have that title, although I am not sure of the differences in duties.[/quote]

    No more ties!! No more ties!! No more ties!!
    (Can I stress enough how much the tie needs to stay out of the NHL?)[/quote]

    Like normal clothing on Barry Melrose, ties are just pointless.

    (Ha! That’s funny…)[/quote]

    and that’s why they have the shootouts

  • Jon | December 27, 2006 at 12:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”35639″][quote comment=”35571″]Eric Davis sporting the red laces.[/quote]
    dig the one hi-top, one low-top shoes[/quote]

    Eric is wearing a leg guard that is white. He is wearing 2 high top cleats but it does look like one

  • Matt from the 'Ville | December 27, 2006 at 12:43 pm |

    Sorry I meant to link this picture. I screwed that one up.

  • Richard | December 27, 2006 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”35652″][quote comment=”35639″][quote comment=”35571″]Eric Davis sporting the red laces.[/quote]
    dig the one hi-top, one low-top shoes[/quote]

    Eric is wearing a leg guard that is white. He is wearing 2 high top cleats but it does look like one[/quote]

    Shocking! A leg guard that blends in to the uniform leg…what a concept. maybe other hitters should take a cue.

  • Original Jim | December 27, 2006 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”35557″]On a uni Christmas note, I got this as a gift. My little sister is a sophmore at BU and has become a big hockey fan. I thought this was an awesome gift. And before any of you make any “logo creep” or “evil empire” comments, I love Nike products and the Nike brand.[/quote]

    When did BU go back to Nike? I thought they were wearing Koronis.

  • Andrew | December 27, 2006 at 1:04 pm |

    Anyone know when the new Authentic 5950s with black underbills and polyester, like those worn by the Tigers in the World Series, start showing up more frequently?

  • Monte | December 27, 2006 at 1:15 pm |

    Not sure if this is going to work but Garcia has been wearing what look to be silver laces… God I hate the Eagles.

  • Monte | December 27, 2006 at 1:18 pm |

    He’s also wearing cleats that go for the retarded fake spats look.

    God I hate the Eagles.

  • Banker Bill | December 27, 2006 at 1:19 pm |

    I just wish there were more hitting – I can understand calling flagrant obstruction calls – but you also have to allow a defenseman to play…defense. Look, I love to see an end to end rush as much as the next guy, but a textbook hip check or a guy getting a slobberknocker because he’s looking at the puck are just as appealing to me. I agree with Freddie “The Fog” Shero – if I want to see “pretty skating” I’ll go see the Ice Capades.

    Hell, I saw DiPietro come out and initiate contact with Jason Ward last night in the FACEOFF CIRCLE and Ward was penalized for charging. If a goalie wants to come out that far, you should be able to blast him. He’s got the padding – he can take it.

    Teebz, even you’ll admit that the officials are sometimes way too ticky tack with obstruction. By definition, “obstructing” is “impeding progress”. Well, if you’re still skating at full speed while my stick is in your hip, your progress isn’t impeded. If you fall down, well then I’ve impeded you. Most officials can tell a dive when they see it – I’d like to see more of THAT called, and the guys who throw their heads back when someone grazes them (Tyson Nash, Brendan Witt – has there ever been a more feminine “tough guy” than Brendan Witt?) That’s as bad as a dive to me.

  • Greg Riffenburgh | December 27, 2006 at 1:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”35559″]USC wears white laces as well.[/quote]

    Good call, Brooks. You can’t talk about contrasting laces without mentioning USC. They’ve been doing it forever and it looks great! I think I might get a pair of white laces for one of my Christmas presents.

  • NickNH | December 27, 2006 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”35657″][quote comment=”35557″]On a uni Christmas note, I got this as a gift. My little sister is a sophmore at BU and has become a big hockey fan. I thought this was an awesome gift. And before any of you make any “logo creep” or “evil empire” comments, I love Nike products and the Nike brand.[/quote]

    When did BU go back to Nike? I thought they were wearing Koronis.[/quote]

    BU actually wore Nike in the late 90s until 00-01.

    In 01-02 (when I started covering the team for the student paper), they went to CCM jerseys. They wore CCM jerseys from that season to 03-04. In 04-05 and 05-06, BU started wearing Reebok branded jerseys (after the Reebok buyout of CCM and Reebok increased its presence in hockey). Midway through the 04-05 season, BU actually had a lot of guys start to wear the RBK helmets.

    BU’s athletic dept as a whole went back to Nike this year. The only bad thing in my eyes has been the swooshes on the knees of the hockey socks. The biggest improvement has been to replica jerseys.

    Koronis started making replicas when BU went to CCM. While the quality was solid, the font of the arched BOSTON was thinner and taller than the one used on game jerseys.

    The two years using Reebok jerseys had replicas made by some no-name company that added a teardrop neckline to the jersey, even though BU doesn’t have it.

    Nike/Bauer has gotten the font right, and the look right, which is good for sticklers like us on this site. They’ve also started selling the alternate jerseys, both home and away (I have the home white), which has been a big improvement.

    And if all the links I put in this post work, I’ll be very happy.

  • mrf | December 27, 2006 at 1:41 pm |

    somebody, please tell me you’re watching the pop warner super bowl on espn right now…HOLY mismatched socks and uniform code violations galore!

  • NickNH | December 27, 2006 at 1:43 pm |

    Man I don’t know what I’m doing, but these should work.

    Koronis

    Teardrop

    Nike Bauer

  • JTN | December 27, 2006 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”35581″]What is the *best* logo creep ever?

    I submit:

    McMahon’s rebellious Adidas neckband — only because he was wearing it not only to support Adidas but to tick off the NFL infrastructure.[/quote]

    hahaha…

    to say that headband is a logo creep is like saying the star is logo creeping on this cowboys uniform

    btw…i’m pretty sure that deion use to wear a nike headband on his neck too, making a total of 12 swooshes on him (4 on each shoe and 2 on each glove…13 if he was wearing a nike headband)….sweet sassy molassy that’s a lot of nike!!

  • JTN | December 27, 2006 at 2:12 pm |

    oh my…

    believe it or not, there are actually more swooshes on deion’s shoes than what you can see, upping that total to at least 16 swooshes on him

  • Miguel | December 27, 2006 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”35662″]Not sure if this is going to work but Garcia has been wearing what look to be silver laces… God I hate the Eagles.[/quote]

    What kind of shoes is Garcia wearing? He had worn some Vicks against the Panthers.

  • Original Jim | December 27, 2006 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”35668″][quote comment=”35657″][quote comment=”35557″]On a uni Christmas note, I got this as a gift. My little sister is a sophmore at BU and has become a big hockey fan. I thought this was an awesome gift. And before any of you make any “logo creep” or “evil empire” comments, I love Nike products and the Nike brand.[/quote]

    When did BU go back to Nike? I thought they were wearing Koronis.[/quote]

    BU actually wore Nike in the late 90s until 00-01.

    In 01-02 (when I started covering the team for the student paper), they went to CCM jerseys. They wore CCM jerseys from that season to 03-04. In 04-05 and 05-06, BU started wearing Reebok branded jerseys (after the Reebok buyout of CCM and Reebok increased its presence in hockey). Midway through the 04-05 season, BU actually had a lot of guys start to wear the RBK helmets.

    BU’s athletic dept as a whole went back to Nike this year. The only bad thing in my eyes has been the swooshes on the knees of the hockey socks. The biggest improvement has been to replica jerseys.

    Koronis started making replicas when BU went to CCM. While the quality was solid, the font of the arched BOSTON was thinner and taller than the one used on game jerseys.

    The two years using Reebok jerseys had replicas made by some no-name company that added a teardrop neckline to the jersey, even though BU doesn’t have it.

    Nike/Bauer has gotten the font right, and the look right, which is good for sticklers like us on this site. They’ve also started selling the alternate jerseys, both home and away (I have the home white), which has been a big improvement.

    And if all the links I put in this post work, I’ll be very happy.[/quote]

    I knew that Nike had a contract with the entire Hockey East during the early 00’s, and that since then many teams have gone to their own endorsements. I thought that some one wore Koronis on ice, aside from the replicas. Either UMass or UMass-Lowell might have been that team, but it wears Nike now. I’m not sure about BC…hockey was the only sport I knew that used Nike, everything else was Reebok or adidas.

  • Josh Peterson | December 27, 2006 at 2:32 pm |

    They make wax laces in white and yellow. They also make black laces. Back in the mid 90’s when it was all the rage to have black holders on the bottom of the skates black laces were also sold. They still sell the blacks but personally I use yellow wax laces.

    Most european players use the yellow wax laces. I think they are sharp, if your team has some yellow in the colors

  • Teebz | December 27, 2006 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”35664″]I just wish there were more hitting – I can understand calling flagrant obstruction calls – but you also have to allow a defenseman to play…defense. Look, I love to see an end to end rush as much as the next guy, but a textbook hip check or a guy getting a slobberknocker because he’s looking at the puck are just as appealing to me. I agree with Freddie “The Fog” Shero – if I want to see “pretty skating” I’ll go see the Ice Capades.[/quote]

    I have yet to see a hip check or a hard bodycheck while the player has the puck called as a penalty. As much as Shero is right, he needs to realize that the way the officials are calling the game is good for the game. People don’t wanna see 2-1 games where there are 4 total scoring chances. People enjoy end-to-end action. There have been many “slobberknockers” since the start of the 2005-06 season: Brain Campbell on RJ Umberger, for example. Hitting hasn’t been reduced… it’s been made relevant to the play now.

    [quote comment=”35664″]Hell, I saw DiPietro come out and initiate contact with Jason Ward last night in the FACEOFF CIRCLE and Ward was penalized for charging. If a goalie wants to come out that far, you should be able to blast him. He’s got the padding – he can take it.[/quote]

    I disagree. Goalies’ pads are meant to stop pucks, not protect them from a monster hit. And since there are only two goalies on a roster at any given time, what would stop a coach from having their best tough guy run a goalie to injure him and put him out of the game or playoff series?

    [quote comment=”35664″]Teebz, even you’ll admit that the officials are sometimes way too ticky tack with obstruction. By definition, “obstructing” is “impeding progress”. Well, if you’re still skating at full speed while my stick is in your hip, your progress isn’t impeded. If you fall down, well then I’ve impeded you. Most officials can tell a dive when they see it – I’d like to see more of THAT called, and the guys who throw their heads back when someone grazes them (Tyson Nash, Brendan Witt – has there ever been a more feminine “tough guy” than Brendan Witt?) That’s as bad as a dive to me.[/quote]

    Why is your stick on my hip? Skate a little faster, and put body on body. It’s no different than international hockey rules. If you stop moving your feet, you’re going to be penalized.

    So what’s worse: Brendan Witt throwing his head back, or Paul Kariya or Brendan Morrison throwing themselves to the ice as if impaled by a stick when they’re barely breathed on? If one can do it, why can’t the other? I’m not saying Brendan Witt is right or justified, but if one side can take advantage of it, why can’t the other?

  • Teebz | December 27, 2006 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”35682″]Brain Campbell[/quote]

    Wow… turkey at work makes for lazy editting.

  • Banker Bill | December 27, 2006 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”35684″][quote comment=”35682″]Brain Campbell[/quote]

    Wow… turkey at work makes for lazy editting.[/quote]

    I agree on most of your points – especially the diving thing. I used to love Kariya until I realized that he flops more than Greg Ostertag did in the NBA.

    As far as the goalie thing, I still contend that if you’re a goalie and you come out of the crease and initiate contact on me, I should have the right to blast you. I used to see goalies go behind the net all the time and pinch people then flop like they got shot. Act like a hockey player and man up. I feel goalies should be protected in the crease at all costs, but if you want to come out of the crease, you’re fair game. Stay where you belong.

  • Jay Palmer | December 27, 2006 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”35686″][quote comment=”35684″][quote comment=”35682″]Brain Campbell[/quote]

    Wow… turkey at work makes for lazy editting.[/quote]

    I agree on most of your points – especially the diving thing. I used to love Kariya until I realized that he flops more than Greg Ostertag did in the NBA.

    As far as the goalie thing, I still contend that if you’re a goalie and you come out of the crease and initiate contact on me, I should have the right to blast you. I used to see goalies go behind the net all the time and pinch people then flop like they got shot. Act like a hockey player and man up. I feel goalies should be protected in the crease at all costs, but if you want to come out of the crease, you’re fair game. Stay where you belong.[/quote]

    I’m with you. Just like in the NFL…once a QB starts to rush the ball you have every right to hit him like you would any other rusher, not more, but certainly not less.

    Same with the goalie, don’t try to injure him but hitting him with the same force that you would any other player on skates should be allowed (once they come out of the crease).

  • ML | December 27, 2006 at 3:56 pm |

    Awesome one-of-a-kind mistake hat Bob Hope is wearing in this pic! *wink*

    Bob Hope and President Ford

  • Shane | December 27, 2006 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”35660″]Anyone know when the new Authentic 5950s with black underbills and polyester, like those worn by the Tigers in the World Series, start showing up more frequently?[/quote]

    I was hat shopping today (new Red Sox 5950), and I didn’t see any poly 5950s at all. Maybe New Era scrapped the idea last second?

    I thought Milan Hejduk wore yellow laces, but it appears that I’m wrong.

  • dchis | December 27, 2006 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”35689″]Awesome one-of-a-kind mistake hat Bob Hope is wearing in this pic! *wink*

    Bob Hope and President Ford[/quote]

    That isn’t a mistake. The picture is edited and turned around. Look at Hope’s shirt. How many shirts have the logo on the right side. It’s always on the left. The original had Hope on Ford’s right not on his left.

  • Greg Riffenburgh | December 27, 2006 at 4:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”35689″]Awesome one-of-a-kind mistake hat Bob Hope is wearing in this pic! *wink*

    Bob Hope and President Ford[/quote]

    If you look at other parts of the picture, it’s clear that it’s not the hat that’s wrong, the picture is simply flipped. If You look at Ford’s zipper, it’s the right side that overlaps the left, whereas men’s pants have the left side overlapping the right. Same with the shirts. Also, Hope’s chest logo is on the right chest instead of the left chest where most companies put an identifying mark on such a polo.

    So it’s SI’s fault, not Bob’s

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”35692″][quote comment=”35689″]Awesome one-of-a-kind mistake hat Bob Hope is wearing in this pic! *wink*

    Bob Hope and President Ford[/quote]

    That isn’t a mistake. The picture is edited and turned around. Look at Hope’s shirt. How many shirts have the logo on the right side. It’s always on the left. The original had Hope on Ford’s right not on his left.[/quote]

    dchis, I think that’s why ML put a wink in his post.

    Hockeyheads, please define terms that you use, especially if they equate to swearing so I can be in on the joke.

    MetsfanAZ!!! Yeah, I’m shouting at you because I NEED my Troy P.

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 4:19 pm |

    Oh, MetsfanAZ, my shoutout to you was a continuation of your comment yesterday about the September issue of GQ that has Troy P. in it. If anybody has a spare copy lying around….

  • Teebz | December 27, 2006 at 4:35 pm |

    NZT = Neutral Zone Trap.
    Left Wing Lock = a modified version of the NZT.

    Basically, the NZT is a way of clogging up the ice area between the two blue lines, making rushes through the zone nearly impossible. With the new NHL rules, the Trap is nearly impossible due to obstruction rules.

    Here is how the Left Wing Lock is explained. Like I said, it is a modified version of the trap.

    Both are now the equivalent of cussing in the new NHL.

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”35696″]NZT = Neutral Zone Trap.
    Left Wing Lock = a modified version of the NZT.

    Basically, the NZT is a way of clogging up the ice area between the two blue lines, making rushes through the zone nearly impossible. With the new NHL rules, the Trap is nearly impossible due to obstruction rules.

    Here is how the Left Wing Lock is explained. Like I said, it is a modified version of the trap.

    Both are now the equivalent of cussing in the new NHL.[/quote]

    Ah, thanks, Teebz. I can always count on you to educate me on the rudimentaries of hockey.

  • todd krevanchi | December 27, 2006 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”35578″]The thing about Logo Creeps is that they occasionally serve the greater good.

    In essence, what I am saying is dont be so quick to write off every Logo Creep.[/quote]

    maybe i’m wrong in my interpretation, but i have never read the term creep in ‘logo creep’ to be a noun. always as an action verb.

    as in ‘this jersey is so plain that the potential for logo creep is overwhelming.’ or ‘jimmy johnsons race jersey was overflowing with logo creep.’ as though logos are creeping up like ants waiting to stick onto a uniform.

    not like cavity creeps…

    [quote comment=”35676″][quote comment=”35662″]Not sure if this is going to work but Garcia has been wearing what look to be silver laces… God I hate the Eagles.[/quote]

    What kind of shoes is Garcia wearing? He had worn some Vicks against the Panthers.[/quote]

    looks like a jordan b trues PE. however in training camp he did wear the trainer 2k6
    http://philadelphia....
    like larry fitzgerald and ed reed have worn this season. ed reed’s are awesome…
    http://us.i1.yimg.co...
    http://us.i1.yimg.co...
    http://i14.tinypic.c...
    look for the trainer 2k6 to be the bowl shoe that darren rovel called the 2k4 before.

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”35702″][quote comment=”35578″]The thing about Logo Creeps is that they occasionally serve the greater good.

    In essence, what I am saying is dont be so quick to write off every Logo Creep.[/quote]

    maybe i’m wrong in my interpretation, but i have never read the term creep in ‘logo creep’ to be a noun. always as an action verb.

    as in ‘this jersey is so plain that the potential for logo creep is overwhelming.’ or ‘jimmy johnsons race jersey was overflowing with logo creep.’ as though logos are creeping up like ants waiting to stick onto a uniform.

    not like cavity creeps…

    [quote comment=”35676″][quote comment=”35662″]Not sure if this is going to work but Garcia has been wearing what look to be silver laces… God I hate the Eagles.[/quote]

    What kind of shoes is Garcia wearing? He had worn some Vicks against the Panthers.[/quote]

    looks like a jordan b trues PE. however in training camp he did wear the trainer 2k6
    http://philadelphia....
    like larry fitzgerald and ed reed have worn this season. ed reed’s are awesome…
    http://us.i1.yimg.co...
    http://us.i1.yimg.co...
    http://i14.tinypic.c...
    look for the trainer 2k6 to be the bowl shoe that darren rovel called the 2k4 before.[/quote]

    todd k., the way you are using logo creep, it is still a noun–even though I guess it could be possibly interpretated as a verb. I see it as virtually one word. To use as a verb would be like saying, ‘Man, the logo creeps all over the jersey,’ which, while amusing, doesn’t make the best grammatical sense.

  • Paul Lukas | December 27, 2006 at 5:17 pm |

    As the person who created the term “logo creep,” I think I speak with some authority here: It’s a noun.

  • todd krevanchi | December 27, 2006 at 5:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”35704″]As the person who created the term “logo creep,” I think I speak with some authority here: It’s a noun.[/quote]

    so just like the cavity creeps from crest, there are logo creeps at apparel manufacturers… that way?

    jeez and this whole time i read it as a term of action! guess i’ll take my masters degree and throw it away tonight.

  • MattyJ | December 27, 2006 at 5:28 pm |

    Gotta love these goalie masks, especially Gilles Gratton’s!

    http://www.legendsof...

  • todd krevanchi | December 27, 2006 at 5:30 pm |

    it just that when i read a sentence that starts, “a disturbing bit of logo creep…”
    i read it to say “a disturbing sitution where a logo has crept its way into visibility.” and never like “adidas, reebok or under armor are logo creeps.” like the cavity creeps…

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”35707″]it just that when i read a sentence that starts, “a disturbing bit of logo creep…”
    i read it to say “a disturbing sitution where a logo has crept its way into visibility.” and never like “adidas, reebok or under armor are logo creeps.” like the cavity creeps…[/quote]

    What are cavity creeps? It’s more like logo is the adjective and creep is the noun. ‘The disturbing creep of logos’ would be another way to read it. ‘Putting three swooshes on one glove is disturbing creep of a logo.’ Like that.

    Paul, I didn’t know you invented the term. You should trademark it. Logo creep ™, coined by Paul Lukas.

  • Paul Lukas | December 27, 2006 at 5:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”35707″]it just that when i read a sentence that starts, “a disturbing bit of logo creep…”
    i read it to say “a disturbing sitution where a logo has crept its way into visibility.” and never like “adidas, reebok or under armor are logo creeps.” like the cavity creeps…[/quote]

    Yes, exactly. Well, almost — I’d say “the disturbing encroachment of corporate logos where they don’t belong.” But the key word — whether “situation” in your definition or “encroachment” in mine — is a noun. In short: It’s a phenomenon. And that’s a noun, or a subject term.

  • zach | December 27, 2006 at 6:00 pm |

    Just to clarify something about those wax laces. The allure with the wax laces isn’t that they get your skates tighter, but that they will remain tight for the entirety of the game. When you get right down to it, you can tie a pair of skates with waxed or un-waxed laces just as tight, but the wax laces won’t slip like normal laces.

    Also, although I think Ovechkin a fairly flashy player (his blades in the Olympics?) I would assume the wax laces are functionally important as he is notoriously hard on his skates.

  • Anthony Verna | December 27, 2006 at 6:53 pm |

    It’s funny, I always understood Logo Creep as a noun meaning that corporate logos are encroaching into places where they traditionally haven’t been placed.

    But the conversation reminds me of high school. When I first heard the Red Hot Chili Peppers’ “Under the Bridge,” the line “I don’t wanna feel like I did that day,” had me thinking, “How do you do a day?”

    You must love syntax.

  • MetsfanAZ | December 27, 2006 at 7:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”35694″][quote comment=”35692″][quote comment=”35689″]Awesome one-of-a-kind mistake hat Bob Hope is wearing in this pic! *wink*

    Bob Hope and President Ford[/quote]

    That isn’t a mistake. The picture is edited and turned around. Look at Hope’s shirt. How many shirts have the logo on the right side. It’s always on the left. The original had Hope on Ford’s right not on his left.[/quote]

    dchis, I think that’s why ML put a wink in his post.

    Hockeyheads, please define terms that you use, especially if they equate to swearing so I can be in on the joke.

    MetsfanAZ!!! Yeah, I’m shouting at you because I NEED my Troy P.[/quote]
    Sorry, off today, checking in real quick to see if you were here, then I gotta run off again. But I will try to dig up my issue and get it to you snail mail. If not we have a great used bookstore in town that keeps back issues. Don’t worry, i’ll get you some samoa, if you know what i mean.

  • Kevin Dugal | December 27, 2006 at 7:31 pm |

    hey, looking for a website that sells shoelaces, i need the basketball shoe style, that have small trim on each side of the lace, in different colors. any help would be appreciated

  • Bob from Akron | December 27, 2006 at 7:55 pm |

    Long-time reader…first-time post-er. Love the site!

    On the subject of nameplates on the MTSU uniforms:

    What is the name of the font? (It looks like the font on the Maryland basketball uniforms.)

    MTSU running back Desmond Gee (#2) has a nameplate whose font (Arial) is completely different than that of the other players.

  • matt1977 | December 27, 2006 at 8:00 pm |

    “and stuff like the Chiefs having their helmet and the opposing team’s helmet painted together at midfield for home games.”

    In the 86 AFC Championship Game (The Drive), one endzone of Cleveland Municipal Stadium had the Browns helmet and “Browns” painted on, while the other had “Broncos” and their helmet. I always thought this was odd and don’t recall seeing anything like it since. I don’t have screen shots but just flip on ESPN Classic sometime. They seemingly show it once a week as part of the “NFL’s Greatest Games” series. (and I sadistically always leave it on)

  • Ryan | December 27, 2006 at 8:18 pm |

    Logo creep on Sesame Street?

  • Ryan | December 27, 2006 at 8:18 pm |
  • Original Jim | December 27, 2006 at 8:23 pm |

    Let’s make it a gerund! Logo creeping!

    MTSU’s nameplate font is Aachen (I think Aachen Bold, but I can’t tell for sure until I see more pictures).

    Interesting note about the Emerald Bowl tonight…the on-field bowl game and corporate logos for Emerald are different than the logos on the jerseys, and in the Emerald Nut commercials.

    new logo: http://www.emeraldnu...

    old logo (on trophy): http://www.emeraldbo...

    It looks like the patch on FSU’s uniforms is the old logo, but UCLA might have the new logo.

  • Ed Findlay | December 27, 2006 at 8:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”35722″]Logo creep on Sesame Street?
    [/quote]

    It looks like it might be but it’s generic enough not to be.

  • Matt | December 27, 2006 at 8:24 pm |

    In the 86 AFC Championship Game (The Drive), one endzone of Cleveland Municipal Stadium had the Browns helmet and “Browns” painted on, while the other had “Broncos” and their helmet. I always thought this was odd and don’t recall seeing anything like it since. I don’t have screen shots but just flip on ESPN Classic sometime. They seemingly show it once a week as part of the “NFL’s Greatest Games” series. (and I sadistically always leave it on)

    I was at the 1983 AFC Championship Game at the L.A. Coliseum. I remember one end zone had “Raiders” in silver over black, but the other endzone had grey “Seahawks” over blue. Sorry, no pics.

  • Ed Findlay | December 27, 2006 at 8:25 pm |

    In tonight’s Emerald Bowl, it looks like two contrasting nameplates: Florida State’s nameplates appear to stay the same font size while UCLA’s nameplates look like they increase in size and space between letters for some of the shorter names…

  • Ed Findlay | December 27, 2006 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”35724″]Let’s make it a gerund! Logo creeping!

    MTSU’s nameplate font is Aachen (I think Aachen Bold, but I can’t tell for sure until I see more pictures).

    Interesting note about the Emerald Bowl tonight…the on-field bowl game and corporate logos for Emerald are different than the logos on the jerseys, and in the Emerald Nut commercials.

    new logo: http://www.emeraldnu...

    old logo (on trophy): http://www.emeraldbo...

    It looks like the patch on FSU’s uniforms is the old logo, but UCLA might have the new logo.[/quote]
    [quote comment=”35724″]Let’s make it a gerund! Logo creeping!

    MTSU’s nameplate font is Aachen (I think Aachen Bold, but I can’t tell for sure until I see more pictures).

    Interesting note about the Emerald Bowl tonight…the on-field bowl game and corporate logos for Emerald are different than the logos on the jerseys, and in the Emerald Nut commercials.

    new logo: http://www.emeraldnu...

    old logo (on trophy): http://www.emeraldbo...

    It looks like the patch on FSU’s uniforms is the old logo, but UCLA might have the new logo.[/quote]

    Both are the new logo, however the logos on the 30 yard lines look like a cross between the old and new logos(although tough to recreate the new one onfield…)

  • Anthony Verna | December 27, 2006 at 8:58 pm |
  • Kevin Z | December 27, 2006 at 9:18 pm |

    I’m surprised no one’s mentioned the FSU socks. They are gold NFL-style and I’m not sure I’ve seen them before this season or ever. I know FSU has worn maroon/burgundy socks before, but the gold seems new.
    Also, QB Weatherford and the kicker for FSU (and probably others) are wearing those asymmetrical nike undershirts with different color sleeves.

  • TD | December 27, 2006 at 9:29 pm |

    Didn’t see anyone else mention it, but Gerald Ford’s #48 jersey was retired by Michigan in 1994. That would be quite the throwback.

  • Korch | December 27, 2006 at 9:36 pm |

    Garcia is wearing a version of these cleats:

    http://www.eastbay.c...

    Brian Dawkins wore a version earlier this year, do a getty search.

  • Denis | December 27, 2006 at 9:45 pm |

    Many Hockey teams across the nation will display their new Nike Swift Fit uniforms this weekend:
    http://insidecollege...

    Something I noticed about the Chiefs Raiders game was that the Chiefs had their numbers written on their chin strap. Look at Larry Johnson here, you can kind of see it here:
    http://www.nfl.com/p...

    Also, we have talked about teams have their numbers on their socks, I believe it was the Oakland A’s. Anyways, The Maine Black Bears mens hockey team has the same little white cloth sewn into their socks with a sharpie number written on it. Trust me it was there.

    Finally, the only laces that look good on skates are white and only white. I think that black laces on skates looks brutal. One reason is because it makes you look like you skate slower.
    The yellow laces are made by Graf and should only be worn of Graf skates. Period.
    That is hockey

  • TD | December 27, 2006 at 9:45 pm |

    Ford in his senior season for the 1933 National Champions..

    http://espn-ak.starw...

  • Matt B | December 27, 2006 at 9:55 pm |

    As the person who created the term “logo creep,” I think I speak with some authority here: It’s a noun.

    “Verbing weirds language.”

    Cherish that Hope / Ford pic. It’s not often you have two men named Leslie in the same place at once.

  • Richard | December 27, 2006 at 9:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”35739″]Many Hockey teams across the nation will display their new Nike Swift Fit uniforms this weekend:
    http://insidecollege...

    Something I noticed about the Chiefs Raiders game was that the Chiefs had their numbers written on their chin strap. Look at Larry Johnson here, you can kind of see it here:
    http://www.nfl.com/p...

    Also, we have talked about teams have their numbers on their socks, I believe it was the Oakland A’s. Anyways, The Maine Black Bears mens hockey team has the same little white cloth sewn into their socks with a sharpie number written on it. Trust me it was there.

    Finally, the only laces that look good on skates are white and only white. I think that black laces on skates looks brutal. One reason is because it makes you look like you skate slower.
    The yellow laces are made by Graf and should only be worn of Graf skates. Period.
    That is hockey[/quote]

    That Maine jersey is horrible. I can’t believe they went away from the dark blue or the white for the jersey.

  • Patrick | December 27, 2006 at 10:21 pm |

    Those FSU socks looked like panty hose at first glance.

  • tod | December 27, 2006 at 11:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”35707″]it just that when i read a sentence that starts, “a disturbing bit of logo creep…”
    i read it to say “a disturbing sitution where a logo has crept its way into visibility.” and never like “adidas, reebok or under armor are logo creeps.” like the cavity creeps…[/quote]
    This all just proves my point that todd krevanchi is a complete and total moron.

    BOOT HIM AND HIS NIKE LOVING, WNBA FANTASIZING IDIOCY FROM THIS BOARD!!

  • Teebz | December 27, 2006 at 11:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”35739″]Many Hockey teams across the nation will display their new Nike Swift Fit uniforms this weekend:
    http://insidecollege...

    Why, oh why, is the NCAA letting Nike ruin college hockey? I much prefer the arm stripes versus the vertical flair stripes. Maine has a timeless jersey. Nike and whoever approved this at Maine have ruined one of the best college jerseys. Even UNH has a simple and classic look.

    [quote comment=”35739″]Finally, the only laces that look good on skates are white and only white. I think that black laces on skates looks brutal. One reason is because it makes you look like you skate slower.
    The yellow laces are made by Graf and should only be worn of Graf skates. Period.[/quote]

    Not to bring you down, but I use black laces, and they look good with my skates. Here are the CCM Tacks 452 with white laces. Here are the CCM tacks with black laces. Personally, the black laces don’t slow me down. It’s all about personal preference, and isn’t that the way it’s supposed to be?

    [quote comment=”35739″]That is hockey[/quote]

    Is that some sort of signature? :o)

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 11:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”35748″][quote comment=”35707″]it just that when i read a sentence that starts, “a disturbing bit of logo creep…”
    i read it to say “a disturbing sitution where a logo has crept its way into visibility.” and never like “adidas, reebok or under armor are logo creeps.” like the cavity creeps…[/quote]
    This all just proves my point that todd krevanchi is a complete and total moron.

    BOOT HIM AND HIS NIKE LOVING, WNBA FANTASIZING IDIOCY FROM THIS BOARD!![/quote]

    todd k. has been a productive member of this board, unlike you. I may not agree with all his points of view, but he is more than welcome to share them. If you are going to dis him, at least have the decency to put your real (or full) name.

    MetsfanAZ, thanks a million. You are the best! I can’t get enough of the Samoan (and, yes, I know exactly what you mean).

    Gene W. on ESPN has a wish list for 2007. Read the third from the bottom. I am in full agreement. In fact, I will chip in $5 of my own. Who’s with me?

  • Teebz | December 27, 2006 at 11:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”35748″]
    This all just proves my point that todd krevanchi is a complete and total moron.

    BOOT HIM AND HIS NIKE LOVING, WNBA FANTASIZING IDIOCY FROM THIS BOARD!![/quote]

    I rarely weigh in on stuff like this, but it’s opinions like this that make you look less mature than most five year-olds, Tod with one D. Todd K can say what he wants, and have his opinions heard because he is a respected member of this blog. Todd K has contributed more good to this blog than you ever will.

    How about next time, you keep your opinions about others to yourself? Otherwise, I’m sure Ek and Paul will listen to the majority when we tell them you’re no longer welcome.

  • Boris Shubinsky | December 27, 2006 at 11:33 pm |

    I don’t know if it’s been posted already or not, but “yellow” and “gold” laces are often indicative of waxed laced. Also, the skate maker “Graf” is known for their yellow/gold laces on their skates.

  • Jon in SLC | December 27, 2006 at 11:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”35742″][quote comment=”35739″]Many Hockey teams across the nation will display their new Nike Swift Fit uniforms this weekend:
    http://insidecollege...

    Something I noticed about the Chiefs Raiders game was that the Chiefs had their numbers written on their chin strap. Look at Larry Johnson here, you can kind of see it here:
    http://www.nfl.com/p...

    Also, we have talked about teams have their numbers on their socks, I believe it was the Oakland A’s. Anyways, The Maine Black Bears mens hockey team has the same little white cloth sewn into their socks with a sharpie number written on it. Trust me it was there.

    Finally, the only laces that look good on skates are white and only white. I think that black laces on skates looks brutal. One reason is because it makes you look like you skate slower.
    The yellow laces are made by Graf and should only be worn of Graf skates. Period.
    That is hockey[/quote]

    That Maine jersey is horrible. I can’t believe they went away from the dark blue or the white for the jersey.[/quote]

    I agree, that Maine jersey is horrible. I own a lot of hockey jerseys, most smell like old mildew and have seen better days on the ice. But a few are just for wearing around, you know, to poker games, some minor league hockey games, things like this. I only have one jersey that I think is too beautiful to even wear, just to own. It is the classic dark Maine jersey. Too beautiful to put into words.

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 11:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”35751″][quote comment=”35748″]
    This all just proves my point that todd krevanchi is a complete and total moron.

    BOOT HIM AND HIS NIKE LOVING, WNBA FANTASIZING IDIOCY FROM THIS BOARD!![/quote]

    I rarely weigh in on stuff like this, but it’s opinions like this that make you look less mature than most five year-olds, Tod with one D. Todd K can say what he wants, and have his opinions heard because he is a respected member of this blog. Todd K has contributed more good to this blog than you ever will.

    How about next time, you keep your opinions about others to yourself? Otherwise, I’m sure Ek and Paul will listen to the majority when we tell them you’re no longer welcome.[/quote]

    Man, Teebz, you’re freaking me out. Not only have we posted at the same time at night several times, but we post similar things. Rock on, mon ami to the north, aka Puckman, aka Hockey Curator, aka the Walking Encyclopedia of Hockey Knowledge.

  • tod | December 27, 2006 at 11:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”35750″][quote comment=”35748″][quote comment=”35707″]it just that when i read a sentence that starts, “a disturbing bit of logo creep…”
    i read it to say “a disturbing sitution where a logo has crept its way into visibility.” and never like “adidas, reebok or under armor are logo creeps.” like the cavity creeps…[/quote]
    This all just proves my point that todd krevanchi is a complete and total moron.

    BOOT HIM AND HIS NIKE LOVING, WNBA FANTASIZING IDIOCY FROM THIS BOARD!![/quote]

    If you are going to dis him, at least have the decency to put your real (or full) name.quote]
    Sorry – My full name is Tod H.

  • Teebz | December 27, 2006 at 11:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”35755″]

    Man, Teebz, you’re freaking me out. Not only have we posted at the same time at night several times, but we post similar things. Rock on, mon ami to the north, aka Puckman, aka Hockey Curator, aka the Walking Encyclopedia of Hockey Knowledge.[/quote]

    Great minds think alike, and all that jazz, Minna. ;o)

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 11:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”35754″][quote comment=”35742″][quote comment=”35739″]Many Hockey teams across the nation will display their new Nike Swift Fit uniforms this weekend:
    http://insidecollege...

    Something I noticed about the Chiefs Raiders game was that the Chiefs had their numbers written on their chin strap. Look at Larry Johnson here, you can kind of see it here:
    http://www.nfl.com/p...

    Also, we have talked about teams have their numbers on their socks, I believe it was the Oakland A’s. Anyways, The Maine Black Bears mens hockey team has the same little white cloth sewn into their socks with a sharpie number written on it. Trust me it was there.

    Finally, the only laces that look good on skates are white and only white. I think that black laces on skates looks brutal. One reason is because it makes you look like you skate slower.
    The yellow laces are made by Graf and should only be worn of Graf skates. Period.
    That is hockey[/quote]

    That Maine jersey is horrible. I can’t believe they went away from the dark blue or the white for the jersey.[/quote]

    I agree, that Maine jersey is horrible. I own a lot of hockey jerseys, most smell like old mildew and have seen better days on the ice. But a few are just for wearing around, you know, to poker games, some minor league hockey games, things like this. I only have one jersey that I think is too beautiful to even wear, just to own. It is the classic dark Maine jersey. Too beautiful to put into words.[/quote]

    Jon in Sin Lots City, that looks like the Titans’ unis. Ha! How’s the drunk laddering going?

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 11:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”35756″][quote comment=”35750]

    If you are going to dis him, at least have the decency to put your real (or full) name.quote]
    Sorry – My full name is Tod H.[/quote]

    All right, that last part I wrote about names was more that I thought you were using his name without a D rather than your own name, but point taken.

    I stand by the rest of my sctatement. todd k. has just as much right to be here as anyone else, no matter what your personal invective is against him.

  • Jon in SLC | December 27, 2006 at 11:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”35758″][quote comment=”35754″][quote comment=”35742″][quote comment=”35739″]Many Hockey teams across the nation will display their new Nike Swift Fit uniforms this weekend:
    http://insidecollege...

    Something I noticed about the Chiefs Raiders game was that the Chiefs had their numbers written on their chin strap. Look at Larry Johnson here, you can kind of see it here:
    http://www.nfl.com/p...

    Also, we have talked about teams have their numbers on their socks, I believe it was the Oakland A’s. Anyways, The Maine Black Bears mens hockey team has the same little white cloth sewn into their socks with a sharpie number written on it. Trust me it was there.

    Finally, the only laces that look good on skates are white and only white. I think that black laces on skates looks brutal. One reason is because it makes you look like you skate slower.
    The yellow laces are made by Graf and should only be worn of Graf skates. Period.
    That is hockey[/quote]

    That Maine jersey is horrible. I can’t believe they went away from the dark blue or the white for the jersey.[/quote]

    I agree, that Maine jersey is horrible. I own a lot of hockey jerseys, most smell like old mildew and have seen better days on the ice. But a few are just for wearing around, you know, to poker games, some minor league hockey games, things like this. I only have one jersey that I think is too beautiful to even wear, just to own. It is the classic dark Maine jersey. Too beautiful to put into words.[/quote]

    Jon in Sin Lots City, that looks like the Titans’ unis. Ha! How’s the drunk laddering going?[/quote]

    The drunk ladders were years ago. Back when it was ok for your hockey coach to make his own homemade beer and let us all (team leaders) have one at his house during team meetings. Today that kind of things would make CNN. I’ve been away for awhile, trips back home, holiday parties things of that sort. But I’ve been catching up late at night, just to late to post.

    I agree that it’s ridiculous to slam Todd Krevanchi. I don’t always agree with him, but his posts are always intelligent. Plus he makes me laugh.

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 11:49 pm |

    Damn it. I hate when it goes all italic. This was my reply to Tod H.:

    All right, that last part I wrote about names was more because I thought you were using a pseudonym based on todd’s name, but point taken.

    I stand by the rest of my statement. todd k. has just as much right to be here as anyone else, no matter what your personal invective is against him.

    I edited it a bit, but essentially the same. Back to the uniform nitpicking.

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 11:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”35760″]

    The drunk ladders were years ago. Back when it was ok for your hockey coach to make his own homemade beer and let us all (team leaders) have one at his house during team meetings. Today that kind of things would make CNN. I’ve been away for awhile, trips back home, holiday parties things of that sort. But I’ve been catching up late at night, just to late to post.

    I agree that it’s ridiculous to slam Todd Krevanchi. I don’t always agree with him, but his posts are always intelligent. Plus he makes me laugh.[/quote]

    Wow. I can’t imagine a coach doing that these days. You’re right. That would be splashed all over ESPN and CNN. Good to see ya again.

  • Shuman | December 27, 2006 at 11:52 pm |

    Off topic,

    Can anyone produce a link to a picture of the old University of Hawaii uniforms? This is when they had the rainbow on the helmet.

    I’m looking for any picture between 1975-1998 (in color preferably).

    Thanks to the helmet project I know what the helmets look like, so I don’t need that link.

    Thank you to anyone who can help.

  • Original Jim | December 28, 2006 at 12:20 am |

    Wow, that hate for Todd Krevanchi was uncalled for. Seriously.

    Maine should be in navy, with the classic script. Never light blue.

    UNH should be in navy, reading “UNH”. Never silver.

    Neither should ever be in a Swift jersey. One of the worst things to happen to hockey since Cooperalls.

  • Jon in SLC | December 28, 2006 at 12:22 am |

    Titans nothing. This is sweet! And the old Hawaii uni is tough. I’ve tried tons of sites and searches and nothing so far. Now, I’m on a mission…

  • Minna H. | December 28, 2006 at 12:37 am |

    [quote comment=”35766″]Titans nothing. This is sweet! And the old Hawaii uni is tough. I’ve tried tons of sites and searches and nothing so far. Now, I’m on a mission…[/quote]

    It’s a sweet-looking jersey, to be sure, but it still reminds me of this. Sorry!

    I tried looking for the University of Hawaii unis, too, but I gave up after a rather perfunctory search. I might try again.

  • Jon in SLC | December 28, 2006 at 12:44 am |

    I’ve tried everything I can think of. Old bowl game photos, old days of the WAC. Direct to the university’s website. And nothing. Those were great uni’s too. When I think of Hawaii football, I think of the the Rainbow Warriors. I even looke through old BYU (ugh!) football photos for a chance. Now that’s desperate!

  • chris | December 28, 2006 at 12:46 am |

    if they ever hurt the gopher jersey with that streamline crap, someone is gonna get hurt…

  • Jon in SLC | December 28, 2006 at 12:56 am |

    Success! Scroll to the larger picture.

  • Jon in SLC | December 28, 2006 at 1:06 am |

    [quote comment=”35766″]Titans nothing. This is sweet! And the old Hawaii uni is tough. I’ve tried tons of sites and searches and nothing so far. Now, I’m on a mission…[/quote]

    Quoting myself is kinda odd. But the jersey listed above shows the font in light blue. But the replica offered on the GoBlackbears.com shows the font in white. My jersey hanging in the closet is in white as well. White looks to be correct.

  • Andrew F. | December 28, 2006 at 1:14 am |

    BIG hockey news that isn’t related to all this non-uni bickering-

    They’ve done it again…. http://www.insidecol... NINE TEAMS!!!! They’re now killing it at one of it’s purest forms…

  • Andrew F. | December 28, 2006 at 1:16 am |

    wooo did i get to the party late… nevermind lol how did I totally miss that it was posted. My bad….

  • Minna H. | December 28, 2006 at 1:17 am |

    [quote comment=”35773″]Success! Scroll to the larger picture.[/quote]

    You rule, Jon, even if you had to resort to the evil, money-sucking site to find it. Too bad they are kinda ugly.

  • Daniel | December 28, 2006 at 1:18 am |

    Eric Gagné (traitor) always wore white laces with the Dodgers

    http://www.1softball...

  • shuman | December 28, 2006 at 1:28 am |

    Jon in SLC,

    Snaps to you my friend! Great catch!!

    I had tried the Elam route on google images but to no success.

    What can’t you find on ebay?

  • Jon in SLC | December 28, 2006 at 1:32 am |

    [quote comment=”35782″]Jon in SLC,

    Snaps to you my friend! Great catch!!

    I had tried the Elam route on google images but to no success.

    What can’t you find on ebay?[/quote]

    I was a man with a purpose. I’m sure the rest of Uni Nation (Is that right?) will have better stuff tomorrow.

    [quote comment=”35781″]Eric Gagné (traitor) always wore white laces with the Dodgers

    http://www.1softball...

    Gagne’s option wasn’t picked up. Not exactly a traitor.

  • Michael Wing | December 28, 2006 at 6:07 am |

    Back to Alan Topolski’s comment, and Paul’s response. Back in 1970, the first year of the NFL-AFL merger, I watched with heightened interest to see what fonts would be used for the old NFL teams’ nameplates. The L.A. Rams had a font that used this same variable width. I specifically remember Tom Mack’s uniform; the nameplate looked a lot like that of Lee “LACY” on the Pirate link.

  • DenverGregg | December 28, 2006 at 7:58 am |

    [quote comment=”35777″]BIG hockey news that isn’t related to all this non-uni bickering-

    They’ve done it again…. NINE TEAMS!!!! They’re now killing it at one of it’s purest forms…[/quote]

    That’s terrible. The new Sioux jersey is worst of all, considering how the original looks. What they did to Maine is a travesty too.

  • Chris | January 15, 2007 at 5:05 pm |

    Regarding MTSU’s font on the nameplates…The Tennessee Volunteers used to do this as well, especially around the early 90’s. Chuck Webb’s name was wide enough to span the entire nameplate.