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What’dja Get? What’dja Get??

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My family doesn’t celebrate Christmas (chosen people and all that…), but Uni Watch hedge fund analyst Jenny Strasburg and I had our own little Christmas celebration last Wednesday, before she had to fly home to spend the real holiday with her family. And even though I stayed away from the computer for most of the day, the specter of Uni Watch seemed to hover over me all day long.

We began by checking out the Design Triennial exhibit up at the Cooper-Hewitt National Design Museum. There was one entry that included a critique of corporate branding, including the Nike swoosh, so of course I enjoyed that. But there were also two entries that featured actual Nike products, including — get this — a purple Nike running suit. Jenny saw this before I did and tried to steer me away from it, but it was no use. After staring, transfixed, for about a minute, I vomited all over the display.

Okay, not really, but I wanted to.

The exhibition also included some work by a menswear designer named Thom Browne. I’d never heard of him before, but the little placard accompanying his display included the following quote from him: “I love uniforms. They make everything so easy.” And sure enough, his work features lots of stripes, piping (sometimes lots of piping!), even striped socks. I’d never wear any of this stuff, natch, but it was still cool to see uniform details seeping into haute couture.

From there we went down to the New York Public Library, where they had an exhibit on the history of “rakish” menswear. Lots of great stuff, as you can see here and here. But what really stopped me in my tracks was an illustration of a dude with one vertically striped pant leg, accompanied by the following caption, which I copied down on the spot:

As early as the Middle Ages, striped cloth had achieved a reputation as the “Devil’s Cloth.” Stripes were associated with deviance and criminality. Even after striped garments like hose had become socially fashionable and a hallmark of heraldry, the design evoked licentious connotations. Young Renaissance warriors (and civilians) wore their eye-catching stripes with bravado — knowing that their rakish appearance would test their society’s tolerance level.

Explains a lot about my preoccupations, no? (Maybe explains Sean Taylor, too.)

We eventually made our way back to Uni Watch HQ, where we cooked this into this, and then it was time for presents. Let’s just say Jenny knew who she was shopping for. Among other treats, here’s what I scored:

• Two pairs of striped socks.

This book, published in 1952. It would be worthwhile for its cover photo alone, but there’s a lot more to it than that. Imagine my reaction, for example, when I saw the title of Chapter 7. There’s a fair amount of uni-centric text scattered throughout the book, including the following account of the players lining up to receive their uniforms:

Each boy stood patiently until he received his equipment. Then with a shrill yell he rushed over to the grassy part of the field, carefully laid down his pile, and hastily began pulling on the uniform on top of his T-shirt and pants. After checking the uniform for size, each boy carefully bagged the trousers in the approved big league manner. Then, with cap pulled down at a studiously careless angle, he fled for home.

Gotta like that.

This book (see link at right), which features hundreds of New York Daily News photos from the golden age of New York baseball (including some taken just a few blocks from where I live). There are way too many amazing pics to go over here, so I’ll just showcase a few: Willie Mays and Monte Irvin co-owned a liquor store, and looked mighty sharp while running it; check out the great old logos on this TV camera; and here’s another reason why I’m proud to be a Brooklynite.

My good fortune continued the following day, when I had drinks with Uni Watch publicist Carrie Klein, who surprised me with this swell trinket (here’s a bottom view). Isn’t that nice? It has taken all my willpower and self-restraint to refrain from removing the little perforated hole-punch.

Two days after that, on Xmas Eve, I went over to my friends George and Scout‘s place, where a small but festive crowd had gathered. We ate the Meal of the Seven Fishes (count ’em: oysters, smelts, cod, some sort of little bait fish thingies [sorry, I forgot to snap the photo until they were almost all gone], mussels, angel hair pasta with whiting sauce, and scallops), and then my buddy Dave Herman (who last year got me a pair of New York Rangers socks) gave me the gift to end all gifts. Now, as some of you know, I’m am extreeeeeeemely fond of beef, pork, lamb, and the like. And of course I’m also fond of uniforms, and of a certain National League baseball team. All those things came together when Dave presented me with this. Yabba-dabba-do!

All in all, a swell holiday. Hope yours was, too. If you got any cool uni-related swag, feel free to send photos this-a-way.

Uni Watch News Ticker: A while back someone mentioned in the Comments section that Kirk McLean had the word “Weird” written on the underside of his skate, but photographic evidence was lacking — until now (with thanks to ESPN.com photo czar Sean Hintz for the blow-up inset). According to this page, the “Weird”-ness started when McLean “was deemed too ‘normal’ by the [Vancouver] team trainers,” so they added the inscription to his skate. … Speaking of goalie weirdness, check out the illustration of Marvin the Martian on Patrick Lalime’s stick. … Remember our discussion of target-like hockey jersey logos? That came to mind when I saw this photo of what Yutaka Fukufuji, now in the Kings’ organization, used to wear in Japan. … Here’s a rare non-Japanese contribution from Jeremy Brahm: “In 1998, Real Sociedad of the Spanish First Division, had a fan killed by neo-Nazis. So for one game, the team wore his name, A. Zabaleta, on the back of their uniforms as a tribute to him.” … Nice bit about the 49ers’ throwbacks here (with thanks to Chris Kaufman). … The January issue of Smithsonian magazine includes this photo, with the following caption: “According to team lore, the Harlem Globetrotters first take the court in January 1927. They are a road team in the Midwest — not New York — and the name promotes the players, who are black. Soon known for trick shots and comedy routines, they will bring basketball to new audiences in more than 100 countries. As for Harlem, the team finally plays there in ’68.” … Totally cool auction items here, here, here, and here. … Another racer-backed women’s hoops school: Alabama State (as spotted by Richie Murray). … More archival college photos, this time courtesy of Steve Delaney, who writes: “I’m a student at Hood College in Frederick, Maryland. I was looking through a PDF file today of our alumni magazine and saw some real photo gems. It’s a 44-page document and you’ll really want to focus on pages 18-23. In there you’ll find a photo of field hockey players from the early 1900s (apparently we had the second college field hockey team in the US). And in the early days, Hood had a tradition of giving blazers to deserving athletes (not unlike present day varsity jackets). You can see examples of those on pages 19 and 23.” They apparently gave out varsity sweaters, too. … Nice camera work by Brian Terreson who noticed that LaDainian Tomlinson had a rip just below his nameplate on Sunday. … Matt Leinart appears to have been shopping for maternity clothes. … Some logo creep is a lot more annoying than others. … According to this article, Browns WR Braylon Edwards “faces league fines for violating uniform code by wearing white shoes — covered partially with black tape — while his teammates wore black shoes, and two different colored gloves” in Sunday’s game against the Bucs (with thanks to Chris Marcinko). … Good article here about advertising on MLS jerseys.

 

130 comments to What’dja Get? What’dja Get??

  • Joe Young | December 26, 2006 at 9:07 am |

    Braylon Edwards isn’t the only person (or sport) to be doing this:

    Check out Willy Mo Pena

    Different Pair

    Willy Mo in the World Baseball Classic

  • MattyJ | December 26, 2006 at 9:08 am |

    First Post

  • Ron | December 26, 2006 at 9:08 am |

    Sweet, #1 with a bullet!

  • Tape | December 26, 2006 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment=”35208″]First Post[/quote]

    [quote comment=”35210″]Sweet, #1 with a bullet![/quote]

    for every time it angers me that I see a first post of “first post!”, I laugh with equal and opposite aplomb when I see some clown who has wasted time, bandwidth and CPU cycles to write “first post!” only to not be the first post. or even the second in this case!

    double whammy!

    but seriously, why do people do this? it’s asinine.

  • Paul Lukas | December 26, 2006 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment=”35208″]First Post[/quote]
    [quote comment=”35210″]Sweet, #1 with a bullet![/quote]

    OK, so neither of you was actually first, which is poetic justice, since the whole “Hey, I’m first, so I’m gonna say so even though I have nothing else constructive to offer!” thing is embarrassing for everyone.

    New policy: Any “Hey, I’m first!” posts will be deleted.

  • Seth H | December 26, 2006 at 9:35 am |

    Back on October 16, in posts 21 and 22, I gave you multiple links to pictures of the Japan hockey sweaters.

  • Ron | December 26, 2006 at 9:40 am |

    [quote comment=”35231″][quote comment=”35208″]First Post[/quote]
    [quote comment=”35210″]Sweet, #1 with a bullet![/quote]

    OK, so neither of you was actually first, which is poetic justice, since the whole “Hey, I’m first, so I’m gonna say so even though I have nothing else constructive to offer!” thing is embarrassing for everyone.

    New policy: Any “Hey, I’m first!” posts will be deleted.[/quote]

    Hey, at least I have something to comment on now, since I’ve helped set a historical precedent (or at least been a back-breaking straw). I guess I could complain about how my work’s content filter blocks out all the non-Yahoo and non-ESPN image links, but that’s par for the course.

  • ML | December 26, 2006 at 9:42 am |

    You eat pork??

  • mark | December 26, 2006 at 9:42 am |

    Adding to yesterdays conversation in the comments section, here is a picture of the original “concept” Carolina Panthers uniform with the black pants.

  • spgrl | December 26, 2006 at 9:44 am |

    info on the new hockey unis as tried out by the Sharks

  • ML | December 26, 2006 at 9:44 am |

    [quote comment=”35251″]Adding to yesterdays conversation in the comments section, here is a picture of the original “concept” Carolina Panthers uniform with the black pants.[/quote]

    Can you link to the picture only? I don’t want to sign up for that forum just to see the pic.

  • spgrl | December 26, 2006 at 9:44 am |
  • Paul Lukas | December 26, 2006 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”35250″]You eat pork??[/quote]

    I eat everything. Except stinky cheese and mayonnaise. Just to clarify, though, those before/after meat pics are of a big-ass rib steak, not a pork chop.

  • ML | December 26, 2006 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”35256″][quote comment=”35250″]You eat pork??[/quote]

    I eat everything. Except stinky cheese and mayonnaise.[/quote]

    I’m with ya there, both counts. Got a leftover ham sammich yesterday handed to me with mayo… bleargh.

  • Brad | December 26, 2006 at 9:51 am |

    One thing I’ve wondered about these Dallas Cowboys throwbacks….Why the hell aren’t they white? The Cowboys should ALWAYS wear white at home. It is a great NFL uni tradition. So why make blue throwbacks to wear in Texas Stadium?

  • Elliott | December 26, 2006 at 9:52 am |

    My family doesn’t celebrate Christmas (chosen people and all that…)

    That makes two of us Paul…I love how you’re not ashamed of eating pork (nether am I….)

  • Lindsay | December 26, 2006 at 9:53 am |

    Don’t want to seem all nit-picky, but Yutaka Fukufuji actually plays in the Los Angeles Kings organization, not the Stars. I just saw him play for the Manchester Monarchs the other night, he was pretty decent.

  • Harry | December 26, 2006 at 9:55 am |

    In this women’s basketball game, it appears that both sides are wearing white jerseys

  • ML | December 26, 2006 at 9:55 am |

    [quote comment=”35259″]My family doesn’t celebrate Christmas (chosen people and all that…)

    That makes two of us Paul…I love how you’re not ashamed of eating pork (nether am I….)[/quote]

    Kornheiser said something about eating pork last night on MNF… anyone happen to notice that? Something about holding a pig’s head and how it probably wouldn’t be well received at his (insert Jewish community name here).

  • Brandon | December 26, 2006 at 9:56 am |

    I got this book although some of their choices for best are arguable thier is some great pics try to get some up l8er

  • The Ol Goaler | December 26, 2006 at 9:56 am |

    Concerning the Cowboys’ “throwback” unis… count John Madden (who likes globs of mud on uniforms, by the way) among those who wish the ‘Boys would get rid of those blue throwbacks. According to Madden, “They don’t look like the Cowboys, and they haven’t played like ’em today, either.”

  • BDH | December 26, 2006 at 9:56 am |

    Unless I missed a holiday trade, Fukufuji is in the Kings organization.

  • Elliott | December 26, 2006 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”35262″][quote comment=”35259″]My family doesn’t celebrate Christmas (chosen people and all that…)

    That makes two of us Paul…I love how you’re not ashamed of eating pork (nether am I….)[/quote]

    Kornheiser said something about eating pork last night on MNF… anyone happen to notice that? Something about holding a pig’s head and how it probably wouldn’t be well received at his (insert Jewish community name here).[/quote]

    I have no idea, I was at the game, but he has mentioned it several times before on PTI

  • Ron | December 26, 2006 at 9:57 am |

    [quote comment=”35262″][quote comment=”35259″]My family doesn’t celebrate Christmas (chosen people and all that…)

    That makes two of us Paul…I love how you’re not ashamed of eating pork (nether am I….)[/quote]

    Kornheiser said something about eating pork last night on MNF… anyone happen to notice that? Something about holding a pig’s head and how it probably wouldn’t be well received at his (insert Jewish community name here).[/quote]

    I once knew a Jewish guy who worked at a restaurant that served pork barbeque almost exclusively, despite the fact that he ate reasonably kosher. It was delicious (the food, and the irony).

  • Brad | December 26, 2006 at 9:59 am |

    I don’t mind the Dallas throwbacks…I just think they should have gone with white.

    href=”https://www.gfg.com/baseball/61ff41.jpg”>1.jpg

  • Brad | December 26, 2006 at 10:01 am |

    I clearly can’t link

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 26, 2006 at 10:05 am |

    That Reebok logo encroaching into the Niner’s sleeve stripes makes me sick!

  • Anthony Verna | December 26, 2006 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”35256″][quote comment=”35250″]You eat pork??[/quote]

    I eat everything. Except stinky cheese and mayonnaise.[/quote]

    You mean you don’t eat all your sandwiches with mayonnaise?

    http://vids.myspace....

  • Metsfan AZ | December 26, 2006 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”35275″]That Reebok logo encroaching into the Niner’s sleeve stripes makes me sick![/quote]
    If I were Alex Smith, I’d be more leery of Kurt Warner’s hand encroaching on my butt.

  • Brandon | December 26, 2006 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”35275″]That Reebok logo encroaching into the Niner’s sleeve stripes makes me sick![/quote]

    I’m not a Niners fan or anything, but everytime they wear those unis I can’t help but think they belong in the NFL every Sunday. Classic

  • Dave from Indy | December 26, 2006 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment=”35251″]Adding to yesterdays conversation in the comments section, here is a picture of the original “concept” Carolina Panthers uniform with the black pants.[/quote]
    Those are horrible. Did a 3rd grader come up with those or was it Nike! D’oh!

  • Matty L. | December 26, 2006 at 10:45 am |

    I got a Blue Jays 59fifty (the ugly ‘J’ logo version, not the uglier ‘T’ logo) and was happily surprised that it was still the wool model with the grey brim.

    Also I should be picking up a 1965 Hamilton Tiger-Cats jersey with some serious sleeve strippage, but a lame ‘faded’ 65 as the jersey number.

  • todd krevanchi | December 26, 2006 at 10:51 am |

    is it just me, or does anyone else have “the brews” by NOFX running through their head while reading todays comments…

  • Ron | December 26, 2006 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”35285″]is it just me, or does anyone else have “the brews” by NOFX running through their head while reading todays comments…[/quote]

    You’re not the only one.

  • WVU Tom | December 26, 2006 at 11:09 am |

    My apologies if someone already commented on this, but in reference to Dallas’ throwbacks yesterday:

    I thought they looked pretty sharp, with the exception of the fact that there seemed to be two different sock patterns. I don’t know if it was due to layering, but some players appeared to have a solid blue sock with a double white stripe, while others appeared to have white socks with a double blue stripe that transitioned into a blue upper sock. You can make out both styles here. There was no single “sock misfit”, as there seemed to be a healthy mix of both styles on the field at any time.

  • Patrick O'Donnell | December 26, 2006 at 11:10 am |

    The Cowboys should always wear those. Very classy. Much better than the current ones where it’s royal blue and black on the uni, and navy and silver on the helmet.

  • Eric G. | December 26, 2006 at 11:16 am |

    Not exactly uni-related, but I guess it could be for the content inside.
    I got the New York Times’ 80-page commemorative paper on the Mets, which is pretty much a big summary of all the things the Mets have done.
    I guess the reason it’s uni-related would be because of all the old photos.

  • Anthony Verna | December 26, 2006 at 11:26 am |

    Count me among those who didn’t like the Cowboys throwback jerseys.

    The jerseys looked like something childish and amateur. (There was something about how the numbers were stitched on that didn’t seem professional.) The helmets were just. . . flat.

    I don’t have a link, however, but I noticed that the nameplates were rounded on the throwbacks.

  • Scott Held | December 26, 2006 at 11:33 am |

    I got a Drew Brees throwback jersey, which could be just enough to get — I can’t believe I’m saying this — the Saints to the Super Bowl.
    Check out the fine bit of levity from the folks at Esquire … scroll down to the entry about the Bengals: http://www.esquire.c...

  • Kenny | December 26, 2006 at 11:35 am |

    Spent Christmas Eve and some of yesterday with my girlfriend’s family and we decorated xmas cookies…of course had to make the Cardinals stirrup out of the stocking…i’ll post a picture once i get them off her camera

  • WVU Tom | December 26, 2006 at 11:52 am |

    From Sunday’s open thread:
    [quote comment=”34393″]…

    Baltimore at Pittsburgh
    The usual: Pittsburgh looks great, Baltimore does not.

    …quote]

    We all know that Paul (and undoubtedly others) have certain disdain for purple, but I personally don’t have a problem with the color.

    I think the Ravens look pretty sharp, whether in whites or thier home purple jersey/white pants combo. When the team first took the field in the late 90’s, the unis were horrible, and while most people probably don’t realize that they are in fact wearing a second generation uniform, I find their current uniforms (which I believe first appeared in 99) very appealing. The number font has changed and the black pants have been put to rest, thankfully–plus the current helmet logo is much better than the original. I just hope they never “turn back the clock” to those horrible original unis.

    old unis and new

  • WVU Tom | December 26, 2006 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”35300″]From Sunday’s open thread:
    [quote comment=”34393″]…

    Baltimore at Pittsburgh
    The usual: Pittsburgh looks great, Baltimore does not.

    …[/quote]

    We all know that Paul (and undoubtedly others) have certain disdain for purple, but I personally don’t have a problem with the color.

    I think the Ravens look pretty sharp, whether in whites or thier home purple jersey/white pants combo. When the team first took the field in the late 90’s, the unis were horrible, and while most people probably don’t realize that they are in fact wearing a second generation uniform, I find their current uniforms (which I believe first appeared in 99) very appealing. The number font has changed and the black pants have been put to rest, thankfully–plus the current helmet logo is much better than the original. I just hope they never “turn back the clock” to those horrible original unis.

    old unis and new[/quote]

    Sorry, I think I screwed up closing the “quote comment” tags!

  • Monte | December 26, 2006 at 12:06 pm |

    I have to know where that Meats tshirt came from. Amazing.

  • mark | December 26, 2006 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”35254″]

    Can you link to the picture only? I don’t want to sign up for that forum just to see the pic.[/quote]

    sorry, didnt realize you had to register. try this

  • Buckeye Mike | December 26, 2006 at 12:20 pm |

    ok, Couple things,
    First off, in those pics of Wily mo playing with 2 diff gloves in the WBC, as a Reds fan, I have to ask HOW IN THE HELL WAS HE THERE ANYWAY? wasn’t there a guy still in his home country with a better bat and glove? had to be
    2nd, I got that ESPN scene it? and one of the catagories is sports logos, thanks to Uni-Watch, I can’t be stopped there. My roommate plays with me and he doesn’t even try anymore b/c I’m so fast
    3rd, YES, 44th post of the day, long livee the adam dunn spot. anyone can get 1st, but not just anyone can get in here! hahaha! IN YOUR FACE!

    ok, merry late christmas and happy new year all!

  • Banker Bill | December 26, 2006 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”35263″]I got this book although some of their choices for best are arguable thier is some great pics try to get some up l8er[/quote]

    I have seen that book in stores – and always wanted to get it – you’ve pushed me over the edge – Barnes and Noble here I come (the gift card I got was well worth it!!)

  • Buckeye Mike | December 26, 2006 at 12:20 pm |

    see, just as bad, fell to 45 i’m so dumb, i hate me

  • Banker Bill | December 26, 2006 at 12:29 pm |

    We mentioned it last week, now I have all of my friends referring to the Bengals as ther Thundercats. Lion-O Palmer throwing to Panthro Houshmanzadah!

    On the sidelines…the Cheetarahs!!

  • Jim | December 26, 2006 at 12:42 pm |

    I wanted these Bears’ socks for Christmas, but alas I cannot find them.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 26, 2006 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”35300″]From Sunday’s open thread:

    Baltimore at Pittsburgh
    The usual: Pittsburgh looks great, Baltimore does not.
    [/quote]

    You knew I would chime in on this one! I agree with WVU Tom…as far as purple unis go, the Ravens by far have the best. As Tom said, the first couple of years were a bit rough, but now they are very clean if you ask me.

    And to clarify, these are 3rd generation. When the team changed the helmet logo because of the lawsuit, they removed the bird from the sleeve and went with the shield logo.

  • ML | December 26, 2006 at 12:44 pm |

    I don’t have a picture, but TOwens was the sock misfit yesterday (in response to #35) — he had 3 stripes on one side and 1 on the other at several points during the game.

  • ML | December 26, 2006 at 12:47 pm |

    Also, I’m from Indianapolis and feel the entire reason the Colts can’t win in the playoffs is the Colts name. They should have given it back to Baltimore when Modell requested it (Jim Irsay evidentally asked for $35 million) and gone with a new name. Like the Browns, the Colts records should all be Baltimore.

    Of course, now that the Ravens have had success on their own, I don’t think the Colts name will ever go back. Too bad.

    In keeping with our racing theme (Pacers, Racers, Checkers), we could name them the… Indianapolis Pits.

  • DVG | December 26, 2006 at 12:49 pm |

    I found this when i was looking for post #49’s Chicago Bears socks. There are some amazing helmets on here, most of them being ones previously discussed in previous blogs. Check out the one fourth from the bottom, as I have never seen a logo like that before.

  • WVU Tom | December 26, 2006 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”35314″][quote comment=”35300″]From Sunday’s open thread:

    Baltimore at Pittsburgh
    The usual: Pittsburgh looks great, Baltimore does not.
    [/quote]

    You knew I would chime in on this one! I agree with WVU Tom…as far as purple unis go, the Ravens by far have the best. As Tom said, the first couple of years were a bit rough, but now they are very clean if you ask me.

    And to clarify, these are 3rd generation. When the team changed the helmet logo because of the lawsuit, they removed the bird from the sleeve and went with the shield logo.[/quote]

    My mistake, I thought all those changes happed at the same time–but the are all definately improvements. I love the way the shield incorporates the unique Maryland flag into the team’s logo.

    Of course, if you want an example of how not to wear purple, I think we all know where to look!

  • Original Jim | December 26, 2006 at 12:58 pm |

    From a symmetrical perspective, I think the logo creep fits better in the stripes than above it.

    I think eventually the brands will go behind the collar. With the way sleeves are shrinking now, the logo creep will overtake any secondary logos or numbers there anyway.

    Death to the anti-mayonnites!

  • WVU Tom | December 26, 2006 at 12:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”35315″]I don’t have a picture, but TOwens was the sock misfit yesterday (in response to #35) — he had 3 stripes on one side and 1 on the other at several points during the game.[/quote]

    I did notice that, but my comment was pointing out the fact that the entire team appeared to actually be wearing two different sock styles. It appeared to be an effect of layering.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 26, 2006 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”35317″]Also, I’m from Indianapolis and feel the entire reason the Colts can’t win in the playoffs is the Colts name. They should have given it back to Baltimore when Modell requested it (Jim Irsay evidentally asked for $35 million) and gone with a new name. Like the Browns, the Colts records should all be Baltimore.

    Of course, now that the Ravens have had success on their own, I don’t think the Colts name will ever go back. Too bad.

    In keeping with our racing theme (Pacers, Racers, Checkers), we could name them the… Indianapolis Pits.[/quote]

    I couldn’t agree with you more. However, I think that a majority of Baltimore fans would agree that we would take back the Colts name and records in a second….or at least I would.

    And when the Brown’s fans get over themselves and look at the facts, they will see how much of a class act Art Modell was for leaving the name despite how he was treated by the politicians in Cleveland, and that he should be in the HOF.

  • Dave S. | December 26, 2006 at 1:08 pm |

    Hey, I’m 58th!

  • WVU Tom | December 26, 2006 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”35324″][quote comment=”35317″]Also, I’m from Indianapolis and feel the entire reason the Colts can’t win in the playoffs is the Colts name. They should have given it back to Baltimore when Modell requested it (Jim Irsay evidentally asked for $35 million) and gone with a new name. Like the Browns, the Colts records should all be Baltimore.

    Of course, now that the Ravens have had success on their own, I don’t think the Colts name will ever go back. Too bad.

    In keeping with our racing theme (Pacers, Racers, Checkers), we could name them the… Indianapolis Pits.[/quote]

    I couldn’t agree with you more. However, I think that a majority of Baltimore fans would agree that we would take back the Colts name and records in a second….or at least I would.

    And when the Brown’s fans get over themselves and look at the facts, they will see how much of a class act Art Modell was for leaving the name despite how he was treated by the politicians in Cleveland, and that he should be in the HOF.[/quote]

    At this piont, I would want nothing to do with the Colts. Irsay is still one of the most hated men in Baltimore, and with the Ravens, baltimore fans are enjoying a new era of great football. In hindsight, sure it would have been great if Baltimore would have the idea to insist that the team name, logos and records belonged to the city–allowing a future team to use them (as Cleveland did), but as it stands now, the Colts name has forever been tainted since it left Charm City.

    (Nothing against fans in Indy, but most of us who lived in Baltimore at the time of the move are still bitter about how the deal went down).

  • Nolan | December 26, 2006 at 1:15 pm |

    Happy Boxing Day to our Friends from the north.

  • Kenny | December 26, 2006 at 1:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”35326″]Hey, I’m 58th![/quote]

    Annoying

    [quote comment=”35328″]Happy Boxing Day to our Friends from the north.[/quote]

    And a Happy Kwanzaa

  • Anthony Verna | December 26, 2006 at 1:17 pm |

    The Cleveland situation is not an easy one.

    The city didn’t want to pay for a new stadium. What would the site be? Where would the money come from? The mayor at the time kept saying he didn’t want to build a football stadium, he wanted to put more money into schools. At first, he was applauded.

    Then the Browns moved. Then the mayor was voted out. Then a new stadium was built in the same spot as the old stadium.

    It’s complex, because the stand was taken at first. Modell – hall of fame? I can understand that, for he was a steward of the league. However, if he wanted the community to stand tall, I wonder if he would’ve moved the team.

    Not an easy issue at all.

    [quote comment=”35324″]
    And when the Brown’s fans get over themselves and look at the facts, they will see how much of a class act Art Modell was for leaving the name despite how he was treated by the politicians in Cleveland, and that he should be in the HOF.[/quote]

  • WVU Tom | December 26, 2006 at 1:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”35330″]The Cleveland situation is not an easy one.

    The city didn’t want to pay for a new stadium. What would the site be? Where would the money come from? The mayor at the time kept saying he didn’t want to build a football stadium, he wanted to put more money into schools. At first, he was applauded.

    Then the Browns moved. Then the mayor was voted out. Then a new stadium was built in the same spot as the old stadium.

    It’s complex, because the stand was taken at first. Modell – hall of fame? I can understand that, for he was a steward of the league. However, if he wanted the community to stand tall, I wonder if he would’ve moved the team.

    Not an easy issue at all.

    [quote comment=”35324″]
    And when the Brown’s fans get over themselves and look at the facts, they will see how much of a class act Art Modell was for leaving the name despite how he was treated by the politicians in Cleveland, and that he should be in the HOF.[/quote][/quote]

    Browns fans have every right to be bitter, but at least the city of Cleveland was left with a much better deal than Baltimore was when the Colts left in 84.

    (and just to relate this comment to the content on this site: Baltimore lost some great classic unis!)

  • Terry | December 26, 2006 at 1:49 pm |

    I’m trying to find a picture but the U.S. National Junior hockey team is wearing horizontal stripes for the hockey socks now instead of those ugly vertical stripes at the World Junior Hockey Championships in Sweden which started today. Too bad the U.S. lost to Germany this morning…

  • Allison | December 26, 2006 at 2:31 pm |

    Attention, Paul. You might just want to get a pair of these for yourself:

    Striped snowboard socks I got for Christmas. The stripes make them appear plaid.

    And yet another pair of stripes! Ignore the purple.

  • DenverGregg | December 26, 2006 at 2:34 pm |

    Can’t agree with the spin on the Ravens’ numbers. Those are among the worst on any NFL uniform – way too busy.

    The Bears, Texans, Chiefs, Steelers and Broncos have numbers that enhance the overall look of their respective jerseys.

    Baltimore, Philly, Boston, Nashville, Atlanta, Tampa, San Diego, Miami, SF, Cincinnati and especially Jacksonvile have numbers that detract from the overall look. Other current NFL number styles are pretty much neutral.

  • Shane | December 26, 2006 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”35345″]Can’t agree with the spin on the Ravens’ numbers. Those are among the worst on any NFL uniform[/quote]

    Every team in the English Premier League wears them.

  • matt | December 26, 2006 at 2:48 pm |

    Don’t know if this has been brought up before, but my son received Madden 07 for xmas and in the cold weather games the refs are wearing their black cold weather pants.

  • Mike | December 26, 2006 at 2:51 pm |

    Anybody have any good examples of teams that have logos of their mascot wearing their uniform, like the Dolphins (notice the “M” helmet) or the old Orioles cap?

    Since that Miami Dolphins logo appears on their helmet, technically the dolphin should be wearing a helmet that has a dolphin wearing a helmet inside of a sun that has a dolphin wearing a helmet… and so on.

    And the Oriole on the cap technically should be wearing a picture of an Oriole wearing a cap, etc.

    Don’t think that I want the logos to be changed. I think they’re totally awesome. Just one of those quirky things.

  • Matt | December 26, 2006 at 2:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”35349″]Don’t know if this has been brought up before, but my son received Madden 07 for xmas and in the cold weather games the refs are wearing their black cold weather pants.[/quote]

    in Madden 07 the refs wear the black pants in all games not just the colder weather…

  • Original Jim | December 26, 2006 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”35348″][quote comment=”35345″]Can’t agree with the spin on the Ravens’ numbers. Those are among the worst on any NFL uniform[/quote]

    Every team in the English Premier League wears them.[/quote]

    Not quite.

    The Ravens numbers are a modified form of the font Matrix, which was used by the Diamondbacks until the recently introduced uniforms.

    The EPL teams’ numbers and letters are a modified form of Optima.

    The England national team wears TheFA, a custom font used throughout various FA team graphics.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 26, 2006 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”35348″][quote comment=”35345″]Can’t agree with the spin on the Ravens’ numbers. Those are among the worst on any NFL uniform[/quote]

    Every team in the English Premier League wears them.[/quote]

    Not quite the Ravens style, but close.

    It must be because I look at them every day, but I think the Ravens number mesh perfectly with the uni and artwork of the team. Agree to disagree I guess.

  • DenverGregg | December 26, 2006 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”35348″][quote comment=”35345″]Can’t agree with the spin on the Ravens’ numbers. Those are among the worst on any NFL uniform[/quote]

    Every team in the English Premier League wears them.[/quote]

    The Man U numbers you linked are in a similar style, but (1) the “points” of the numbers (e.g. upper left on the 2) don’t thin out to a point like the Ravens’ do and (2) these are white and appear to be attached with simple dark thread, whereas the Ravens use white with a gold border and a black drop-shadow. That makes a big difference.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 26, 2006 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”35355″]

    Not quite.

    The Ravens numbers are a modified form of the font Matrix, which was used by the Diamondbacks until the recently introduced uniforms.
    [/quote]

    Does anyone have a copy of Matrix font for a mac??? (not the movie font either) Would love to have that one. It’s similar to the font “Latin” as well, but Latin isn’t as versatile.

  • Matty L. | December 26, 2006 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”35353″][quote comment=”35349″]Don’t know if this has been brought up before, but my son received Madden 07 for xmas and in the cold weather games the refs are wearing their black cold weather pants.[/quote]

    in Madden 07 the refs wear the black pants in all games not just the colder weather…[/quote]

    I’ve got it on Wii and they wear the white knickers only in cold-weather cities. But I’ve noticed the weather doesn’t really have any affect on it as a game in Buffalo in week 3 had them in the pants.

  • ML | December 26, 2006 at 3:40 pm |

    On Xbox (not 360), their white “non-cold” knickers have a big fat black stripe on them. In almost any cold game, they will wear the black trousers with the heavy white stripe.

    As far as Baltimore goes… when Irsay dies, perhaps a wrong can be righted. I’m sitting here in my Reggie Wayne jersey typing this, so I’m not exactly anti-Indy, but love the way the city of Cleveland got to keep their name. Peyton shouldn’t be breaking Unitas records, McNair should be. Oh wait… sorry… maybe your next QB. ;)

  • Chris | December 26, 2006 at 4:07 pm |

    Wow, I actually got on the main Uniwatch blog. Cool, too bad the 49ers lost in the throwbacks 23-20 (I didn’t count that faux field goal).

  • Shane | December 26, 2006 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”35357″]these are white and appear to be attached with simple dark thread, whereas the Ravens use white with a gold border and a black drop-shadow. That makes a big difference.[/quote]

    Not quite, mi amigo. I noticed it when I got my first United jersey. The numbers are actually dual-layered for a slight drop shadow effect. Also, they’re heat applied, rather than being sewn on.

    Here’s a quick lesson on EPL lettering for everyone.

    All EPL teams wear the same font style for lettering and numbering. This isn’t exactly commonplace, but other leagues do the same thing (the Scottish Premier League, France’s Ligue 1, and MLS all use the exact same font). Also note that the EPL logo appears at the bottom of every number.

    Most teams in the EPL either wear black numbers on white, or the other way around. However, there are a few abnormalities.

    Blackburn Rovers wear red on white at home (when did they sign Condi Rice?!), as do Liverpool on the road.

    Newcastle United wear gold on white both home and away (such a terrible shirt), while Chelsea’s away shirt features blue and white numbering.

  • Tom Hoffman | December 26, 2006 at 4:12 pm |

    My best gift was from my father, who gave me the “Mr. Redlegs” warmup jacket he picked up in 1960 playing for the Palatka Redlegs in the Florida State League.

  • ML | December 26, 2006 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”35375″][quote comment=”35357″]Newcastle United wear gold on white both home and away (such a terrible shirt)[/quote]

    Big Manchester United fan here, but I can’t help myself — I LOVE Newcastle’s away kit. I know, it goes against the very oaths we are forced to swear ourselves to when we post on this site, but I just really like how it looks on television.

  • schuby | December 26, 2006 at 4:40 pm |

    I think that the Ravens’ jerseys are the best way to wear purple in all of sports. And the Vikings’ are the worst.

  • concealed78 | December 26, 2006 at 4:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”35278″][quote comment=”35275″]That Reebok logo encroaching into the Niner’s sleeve stripes makes me sick![/quote]

    I’m not a Niners fan or anything, but everytime they wear those unis I can’t help but think they belong in the NFL every Sunday. Classic[/quote]

    Agreed. I always felt the 49ers update was completely pointless; especially with all of that black and ugly blockshadows. The old look is clean. There’s no need to put gold on the jersey when it’s so prominent on the helmet & pants.

  • Terry | December 26, 2006 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”35336″]I’m trying to find a picture but the U.S. National Junior hockey team is wearing horizontal stripes for the hockey socks now instead of those ugly vertical stripes at the World Junior Hockey Championships in Sweden which started today. Too bad the U.S. lost to Germany this morning…[/quote]

    Horizontal Stripes (2007 World Juniors)

    Vertical Stripes (2006 Olympics)

  • WVU Tom | December 26, 2006 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”35351″]Anybody have any good examples of teams that have logos of their mascot wearing their uniform, like the Dolphins (notice the “M” helmet) or the old Orioles cap?

    Since that Miami Dolphins logo appears on their helmet, technically the dolphin should be wearing a helmet that has a dolphin wearing a helmet inside of a sun that has a dolphin wearing a helmet… and so on.

    And the Oriole on the cap technically should be wearing a picture of an Oriole wearing a cap, etc.

    Don’t think that I want the logos to be changed. I think they’re totally awesome. Just one of those quirky things.[/quote]

    I’ll repost if I find any photographic evidence, but as a Baltimore area native I can attest to the fact that on some larger versions of the old Oriole bird logo you could definately see the oriole bird on his cap (which would techically have the bird on his cap, and so on to infinity).

  • Nolan | December 26, 2006 at 5:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”35384″][quote comment=”35278″][quote comment=”35275″]That Reebok logo encroaching into the Niner’s sleeve stripes makes me sick![/quote]

    I’m not a Niners fan or anything, but everytime they wear those unis I can’t help but think they belong in the NFL every Sunday. Classic[/quote]

    Agreed. I always felt the 49ers update was completely pointless; especially with all of that black and ugly blockshadows. The old look is clean. There’s no need to put gold on the jersey when it’s so prominent on the helmet & pants.[/quote]
    The one thing about the throwbacks that I don’t like is the color of the pants and the striping. The stripe is way too wide and exactly what color are those pants? I much perfer the gold pants from the new set. Just ditch the blackâ„¢ and use a narrow version of the throwback stripe.

  • Minna H. | December 26, 2006 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”35310″]We mentioned it last week, now I have all of my friends referring to the Bengals as ther Thundercats. Lion-O Palmer throwing to Panthro Houshmanzadah!

    On the sidelines…the Cheetarahs!![/quote]

    Ah, Banker Bill! Glad to see your humor return. Did you get the jersey you wanted for Xmas?

    Oh, and death to mayonnaise. Mustard is much better. Hm. That was a bit alliterative. So is the fact that I am morose today. Also lugubrious, but that isn’t alliterative.

    Oh, and the Vikes. I will grant that their unis are awful this year (no sugarcoating the truth), but I still think the old ones were pretty magnificent.

  • Metsfan AZ | December 26, 2006 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”35394″][quote comment=”35384″][quote comment=”35278″][quote comment=”35275″]That Reebok logo encroaching into the Niner’s sleeve stripes makes me sick![/quote]

    I’m not a Niners fan or anything, but everytime they wear those unis I can’t help but think they belong in the NFL every Sunday. Classic[/quote]

    Agreed. I always felt the 49ers update was completely pointless; especially with all of that black and ugly blockshadows. The old look is clean. There’s no need to put gold on the jersey when it’s so prominent on the helmet & pants.[/quote]
    The one thing about the throwbacks that I don’t like is the color of the pants and the striping. The stripe is way too wide and exactly what color are those pants? I much perfer the gold pants from the new set. Just ditch the blackâ„¢ and use a narrow version of the throwback stripe.[/quote]
    Paul has posted pics before showing the various stripe widths the niners have had. I wanna say that the “stripes on steroids” is from the Montana glory days. at any rate, the unis are historically accurate but they could have picked a narrower stripe to copy.

  • Banker Bill | December 26, 2006 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”35396″][quote comment=”35310″]We mentioned it last week, now I have all of my friends referring to the Bengals as ther Thundercats. Lion-O Palmer throwing to Panthro Houshmanzadah!

    On the sidelines…the Cheetarahs!![/quote]

    Ah, Banker Bill! Glad to see your humor return. Did you get the jersey you wanted for Xmas?

    Oh, and death to mayonnaise. Mustard is much better. Hm. That was a bit alliterative. So is the fact that I am morose today. Also lugubrious, but that isn’t alliterative.

    Oh, and the Vikes. I will grant that their unis are awful this year (no sugarcoating the truth), but I still think the old ones were pretty magnificent.[/quote]

    No – I got a “work” uni (dress shirt and tie) but no new hockey jerseys. That’s OK though….

    Saw the Wild! win in the shootout the other day, and the red jerseys are growing on me…Especially with the Green helmets – they looked very festive.

    Best sign at a hockey game (credit espn.com) – seen at a Penguins game – a girl held up a sign that said “SIDNEY..PUT IT IN MY 5 HOLE”.

  • Minna H. | December 26, 2006 at 5:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”35398″][quote comment=”35396″][quote comment=”35310″]We mentioned it last week, now I have all of my friends referring to the Bengals as ther Thundercats. Lion-O Palmer throwing to Panthro Houshmanzadah!

    On the sidelines…the Cheetarahs!![/quote]

    Ah, Banker Bill! Glad to see your humor return. Did you get the jersey you wanted for Xmas?

    Oh, and death to mayonnaise. Mustard is much better. Hm. That was a bit alliterative. So is the fact that I am morose today. Also lugubrious, but that isn’t alliterative.

    Oh, and the Vikes. I will grant that their unis are awful this year (no sugarcoating the truth), but I still think the old ones were pretty magnificent.[/quote]

    No – I got a “work” uni (dress shirt and tie) but no new hockey jerseys. That’s OK though….

    Saw the Wild! win in the shootout the other day, and the red jerseys are growing on me…Especially with the Green helmets – they looked very festive.

    Best sign at a hockey game (credit espn.com) – seen at a Penguins game – a girl held up a sign that said “SIDNEY..PUT IT IN MY 5 HOLE”.[/quote]

    Ah, well. Work clothes are more useful, I guess. I love the Wild!’s alternates though I detest Christmas. I have no idea why, but the red-and-green just tickles me.

    Forgive my ignorance, but why 5 hole? Why not just hole?

  • Jay Palmer | December 26, 2006 at 5:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”35402″][quote comment=”35398″][quote comment=”35396″][quote comment=”35310″]We mentioned it last week, now I have all of my friends referring to the Bengals as ther Thundercats. Lion-O Palmer throwing to Panthro Houshmanzadah!

    On the sidelines…the Cheetarahs!![/quote]

    Ah, Banker Bill! Glad to see your humor return. Did you get the jersey you wanted for Xmas?

    Oh, and death to mayonnaise. Mustard is much better. Hm. That was a bit alliterative. So is the fact that I am morose today. Also lugubrious, but that isn’t alliterative.

    Oh, and the Vikes. I will grant that their unis are awful this year (no sugarcoating the truth), but I still think the old ones were pretty magnificent.[/quote]

    No – I got a “work” uni (dress shirt and tie) but no new hockey jerseys. That’s OK though….

    Saw the Wild! win in the shootout the other day, and the red jerseys are growing on me…Especially with the Green helmets – they looked very festive.

    Best sign at a hockey game (credit espn.com) – seen at a Penguins game – a girl held up a sign that said “SIDNEY..PUT IT IN MY 5 HOLE”.[/quote]

    Ah, well. Work clothes are more useful, I guess. I love the Wild!’s alternates though I detest Christmas. I have no idea why, but the red-and-green just tickles me.

    Forgive my ignorance, but why 5 hole? Why not just hole?[/quote]

    The 5 hole is the hole between the goalies legs.

  • Jay Palmer | December 26, 2006 at 5:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”35405″][quote comment=”35402″][quote comment=”35398″][quote comment=”35396″][quote comment=”35310″]We mentioned it last week, now I have all of my friends referring to the Bengals as ther Thundercats. Lion-O Palmer throwing to Panthro Houshmanzadah!

    On the sidelines…the Cheetarahs!![/quote]

    Ah, Banker Bill! Glad to see your humor return. Did you get the jersey you wanted for Xmas?

    Oh, and death to mayonnaise. Mustard is much better. Hm. That was a bit alliterative. So is the fact that I am morose today. Also lugubrious, but that isn’t alliterative.

    Oh, and the Vikes. I will grant that their unis are awful this year (no sugarcoating the truth), but I still think the old ones were pretty magnificent.[/quote]

    No – I got a “work” uni (dress shirt and tie) but no new hockey jerseys. That’s OK though….

    Saw the Wild! win in the shootout the other day, and the red jerseys are growing on me…Especially with the Green helmets – they looked very festive.

    Best sign at a hockey game (credit espn.com) – seen at a Penguins game – a girl held up a sign that said “SIDNEY..PUT IT IN MY 5 HOLE”.[/quote]

    Ah, well. Work clothes are more useful, I guess. I love the Wild!’s alternates though I detest Christmas. I have no idea why, but the red-and-green just tickles me.

    Forgive my ignorance, but why 5 hole? Why not just hole?[/quote]

    The 5 hole is the hole between the goalies legs.[/quote]

    Just realized how bad that sounded…the 5 hole is the triangle of space between the ice and the goalie’s two legs.

  • Minna H. | December 26, 2006 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”35406″][quote comment=”35405″]

    The 5 hole is the hole between the goalies legs.[/quote]

    Just realized how bad that sounded…the 5 hole is the triangle of space between the ice and the goalie’s two legs.[/quote]

    Funny! But why 5 specifically? Is he the fifth man? No. Is there a reason?

    Teebz?

  • Buckeye Mike | December 26, 2006 at 5:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”35407″][quote comment=”35406″][quote comment=”35405″]

    The 5 hole is the hole between the goalies legs.[/quote]

    Just realized how bad that sounded…the 5 hole is the triangle of space between the ice and the goalie’s two legs.[/quote]

    Funny! But why 5 specifically? Is he the fifth man? No. Is there a reason?

    Teebz?[/quote]

    Just count the holes, upper right, lower right, upper left lower left, in some order 1234, that only leaves the 5th, which is the one in the middle. I’m sure there is a better reason, but that is the way i had it told to me.

  • Jay Palmer | December 26, 2006 at 5:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”35407″][quote comment=”35406″][quote comment=”35405″]

    The 5 hole is the hole between the goalies legs.[/quote]

    Just realized how bad that sounded…the 5 hole is the triangle of space between the ice and the goalie’s two legs.[/quote]

    Funny! But why 5 specifically? Is he the fifth man? No. Is there a reason?

    Teebz?[/quote]

    picture a goalie in front of the net with his arms and legs spread out…

    That will create five holes to shoot through.

  • Minna H. | December 26, 2006 at 5:59 pm |

    Thanks, (California) Buckeye Mike and Jay. That makes sense, even if it conjures up a pic of a gingerbread man in my head. I don’t think a goalie would truly want a puck in his five hole.

  • Tim Mc | December 26, 2006 at 6:18 pm |

    This might help you to better visualize it. Sorry about the small size though.

  • Chris | December 26, 2006 at 6:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”35384″][quote comment=”35278″][quote comment=”35275″]That Reebok logo encroaching into the Niner’s sleeve stripes makes me sick![/quote]

    I’m not a Niners fan or anything, but everytime they wear those unis I can’t help but think they belong in the NFL every Sunday. Classic[/quote]

    Agreed. I always felt the 49ers update was completely pointless; especially with all of that black and ugly blockshadows. The old look is clean. There’s no need to put gold on the jersey when it’s so prominent on the helmet & pants.[/quote]
    Guys, I said this yesterday, and I’m going to say this again. The current 49ers uniforms were influenced by the 1951 jerseys

  • Minna H. | December 26, 2006 at 6:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”35412″]This might help you to better visualize it. Sorry about the small size though.[/quote]

    Thanks, Tim Mc. That did help because I started thinking about my gingerbread man scenario a little harder and realized that I only came up with four holes—I was missing the crouch.

  • Minna H. | December 26, 2006 at 6:28 pm |

    For Christmas, I got myself this book which has been mentioned on this site a few times. It is gorgeous, and well-worth the price.

  • Teebz | December 26, 2006 at 6:38 pm |

    In my quest to watch as much hockey as possible during the holidays, I happened to stumble across the Spengler Cup game between Canada and Mora IK from Sweden. Lo and behold, I nearly smiled at the jersey design put out by Nike: the old logo!

    What’s going on with the hem stripe? Sponsorship.

    Back view of the jerseys show that Zurich is a big sponsor of the tournament as the name appears on the rear of the Canadian jersey as well as both shoulders on the front. They also appear repeatedly on the HC Davos team, and the Berlin Polar Bears.

    Oh, and Canada, led by Pat Quinn, won in penalty shots. What is this tournament about? The Spengler Cup is the oldest European tournament for club teams. The tournament is played every year in Davos, Switzerland between Christmas and New Year’s Eve. Five teams participate in the tournament, with a select team from Canada usually included. The team from Canada, however, is made up of players playing in Europe and the AHL.

  • DRob | December 26, 2006 at 6:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”35295″]I got a Drew Brees throwback jersey, which could be just enough to get — I can’t believe I’m saying this — the Saints to the Super Bowl.[/quote]

    Me too! But to be honest…I think I prefer this throwback.

  • Anthony Verna | December 26, 2006 at 7:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”35394″] Just ditch the blackâ„¢ and use a narrow version of the throwback stripe.[/quote]

    Anyone want help in registering this trademark?

    0=)

  • Anthony Verna | December 26, 2006 at 7:23 pm |

    Minna’s here?

    Well, we have to give Minna a Christmas present.

    http://www.hochuli.n...

  • matt1977 | December 26, 2006 at 8:04 pm |

    I guess I should “get over myself” but to say that Art Modell is a “class act” for leaving the Browns’ history in Cleveland is utter horseshit.

  • Allison | December 26, 2006 at 8:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”35426″]Minna’s here?

    Well, we have to give Minna a Christmas present.

    http://www.hochuli.n...

    I’m gonna go out on a limb and say Hochuli is the only NFL ref with a website dedicated to him. And with good reason ;)

    If he can make the new ugly ref “uni’s” look good, he earns a website. Okay, so they don’t look good but it’s better than most.

  • Minna H. | December 26, 2006 at 8:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”35426″]Minna’s here?

    Well, we have to give Minna a Christmas present.

    http://www.hochuli.n...

    Anthony! You shouldn’t have. What a nice gift. The only thing that would make it better is if I got one of these, too. I mean, he’s not going to be busy in a couple of weeks, anyway.

    Allison, I would bet you’re right about the amazing Hochulis and his website. He can almost pull off the new unis, but only if he’s wearing the short-sleeve jersey, er, shirt. Got to let those pythons breathe.

  • DRob | December 26, 2006 at 8:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”35431″]I guess I should “get over myself” but to say that Art Modell is a “class act” for leaving the Browns’ history in Cleveland is utter horseshit.[/quote]

    Cleveland is lucky. So is San Jose (with the Earthquakes of the MLS). So is any city that has a pro team leave, but can retain the name, history, and colors of the original team.
    Trust me, it still makes me sick to think of the Utah Jazz (and I wasn’t even alive when the Jazz were in NOLA). Or Baltimore fans when they look at the Colts. Or Houston fans when they look at the Titans.
    While Modell may not be a good person or team owner (and trust me, I know what its like to have bad owners, with Benson of the Saints and Shinn of the Hornets), Cleveland fans should still be lucky that in the end, it wasn’t the Baltimore Browns.

  • Minna H. | December 26, 2006 at 9:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”35438″][quote comment=”35431″]I guess I should “get over myself” but to say that Art Modell is a “class act” for leaving the Browns’ history in Cleveland is utter horseshit.[/quote]

    Cleveland is lucky. So is San Jose (with the Earthquakes of the MLS). So is any city that has a pro team leave, but can retain the name, history, and colors of the original team.
    Trust me, it still makes me sick to think of the Utah Jazz (and I wasn’t even alive when the Jazz were in NOLA). Or Baltimore fans when they look at the Colts. Or Houston fans when they look at the Titans.
    While Modell may not be a good person or team owner (and trust me, I know what its like to have bad owners, with Benson of the Saints and Shinn of the Hornets), Cleveland fans should still be lucky that in the end, it wasn’t the Baltimore Browns.[/quote]

    Wah! Now I miss the North Stars and the Minneapolis Lakers again!

  • Acc (the brain) | December 26, 2006 at 9:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”35278″][quote comment=”35275″]That Reebok logo encroaching into the Niner’s sleeve stripes makes me sick![/quote]

    I’m not a Niners fan or anything, but everytime they wear those unis I can’t help but think they belong in the NFL every Sunday. Classic[/quote]

    Yeah they’re great no doubt about that. Still the current uniforms are nearly as good – save the repeating logo on sleeve & pants.

  • Acc (the brain) | December 26, 2006 at 9:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”35345″]Can’t agree with the spin on the Ravens’ numbers. Those are among the worst on any NFL uniform – way too busy.

    The Bears, Texans, Chiefs, Steelers and Broncos have numbers that enhance the overall look of their respective jerseys.

    Baltimore, Philly, Boston, Nashville, Atlanta, Tampa, San Diego, Miami, SF, Cincinnati and especially Jacksonvile have numbers that detract from the overall look. Other current NFL number styles are pretty much neutral.[/quote]

    Nashville? That’s a first.

    I have no problem with a distinctive numbering style. Not sure what the problem is with being different as long as the numbers are legible.

  • John Okray | December 26, 2006 at 10:13 pm |

    Has anyone been watching the Motor City Bowl? Central Michigan’s uniforms are outfitted by New Balance…what other team, pro, or college is outiftted by New Balance? I am used to seeing Nike, Reebok, Adidas, and even the occasional Under Armous… but New Balance? I can’t think of any other teams outfitted by them off the top of my head.

  • John Okray | December 26, 2006 at 10:14 pm |

    Of course I meant “Under Armour” … sorry

  • Mike | December 26, 2006 at 10:16 pm |

    Was it just me or did Sweden tweek the look of the crowns on their jerseys for the World Juniors? They looked a little different today, and it look in one shot like the decal on the back of their helmet (or at least one players) wasn’t exactly the same… I’ll see if I can find some pictures.

  • MetsfanAZ | December 26, 2006 at 10:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”35438″][quote comment=”35431″]I guess I should “get over myself” but to say that Art Modell is a “class act” for leaving the Browns’ history in Cleveland is utter horseshit.[/quote]

    Cleveland is lucky. So is San Jose (with the Earthquakes of the MLS). So is any city that has a pro team leave, but can retain the name, history, and colors of the original team.
    Trust me, it still makes me sick to think of the Utah Jazz (and I wasn’t even alive when the Jazz were in NOLA). Or Baltimore fans when they look at the Colts. Or Houston fans when they look at the Titans.
    While Modell may not be a good person or team owner (and trust me, I know what its like to have bad owners, with Benson of the Saints and Shinn of the Hornets), Cleveland fans should still be lucky that in the end, it wasn’t the Baltimore Browns.[/quote]
    Just being nitpicky ’cause that’s what we do, but the Titans were the Oilers in Houston. Different than the other teams you mentioned and that Minna brought up. Not sure on the history but I think the Titans may have been the Oilers while they were in Nashville before they moved to Memphis. Or was that Memphis to Nashville? And I have no idea but was Oilers an option when the Texans came into the league? The St. Louis Rams are another example but I don’t think anyone in L.A. gives a shit.

  • MetsfanAZ | December 26, 2006 at 10:29 pm |

    Minna, I assume you have multiple copies of the September GQ but in case you don’t let me know.

  • MetsfanAZ | December 26, 2006 at 10:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”35458″]Has anyone been watching the Motor City Bowl? Central Michigan’s uniforms are outfitted by New Balance…what other team, pro, or college is outiftted by New Balance? I am used to seeing Nike, Reebok, Adidas, and even the occasional Under Armous… but New Balance? I can’t think of any other teams outfitted by them off the top of my head.[/quote]
    Wyoming or Colorado State maybe? There’s also and SEC school, I think…

  • Mike | December 26, 2006 at 10:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”35460″]Was it just me or did Sweden tweek the look of the crowns on their jerseys for the World Juniors? They looked a little different today, and it look in one shot like the decal on the back of their helmet (or at least one players) wasn’t exactly the same… I’ll see if I can find some pictures.[/quote]
    These aren’t the best pictures for showing the logo, but if you look closly, you can see that there definatley was a change. I’m going to skim through the replay on TSN.ca to see if I can find a shot of the helmets (if it ever loads)
    2006 Olympics2007 World Jrs

  • DRob | December 26, 2006 at 10:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”35461″][quote comment=”35438″][quote comment=”35431″]I guess I should “get over myself” but to say that Art Modell is a “class act” for leaving the Browns’ history in Cleveland is utter horseshit.[/quote]

    Cleveland is lucky. So is San Jose (with the Earthquakes of the MLS). So is any city that has a pro team leave, but can retain the name, history, and colors of the original team.
    Trust me, it still makes me sick to think of the Utah Jazz (and I wasn’t even alive when the Jazz were in NOLA). Or Baltimore fans when they look at the Colts. Or Houston fans when they look at the Titans.
    While Modell may not be a good person or team owner (and trust me, I know what its like to have bad owners, with Benson of the Saints and Shinn of the Hornets), Cleveland fans should still be lucky that in the end, it wasn’t the Baltimore Browns.[/quote]
    Just being nitpicky ’cause that’s what we do, but the Titans were the Oilers in Houston. Different than the other teams you mentioned and that Minna brought up. Not sure on the history but I think the Titans may have been the Oilers while they were in Nashville before they moved to Memphis. Or was that Memphis to Nashville? And I have no idea but was Oilers an option when the Texans came into the league? The St. Louis Rams are another example but I don’t think anyone in L.A. gives a shit.[/quote]

    Nope- you’re very right. The Titans did operate for two seasons as the Tenn Oilers. The first season was in Memphis. The second was at Vandy. I may be wrong with specifics…

    The Oilers weren’t an option for the new Houston team…I think Bud Adams still has the name.

  • MetsfanAZ | December 26, 2006 at 10:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”35475″][quote comment=”35461″][quote comment=”35438″][quote comment=”35431″]I guess I should “get over myself” but to say that Art Modell is a “class act” for leaving the Browns’ history in Cleveland is utter horseshit.[/quote]

    Cleveland is lucky. So is San Jose (with the Earthquakes of the MLS). So is any city that has a pro team leave, but can retain the name, history, and colors of the original team.
    Trust me, it still makes me sick to think of the Utah Jazz (and I wasn’t even alive when the Jazz were in NOLA). Or Baltimore fans when they look at the Colts. Or Houston fans when they look at the Titans.
    While Modell may not be a good person or team owner (and trust me, I know what its like to have bad owners, with Benson of the Saints and Shinn of the Hornets), Cleveland fans should still be lucky that in the end, it wasn’t the Baltimore Browns.[/quote]
    Just being nitpicky ’cause that’s what we do, but the Titans were the Oilers in Houston. Different than the other teams you mentioned and that Minna brought up. Not sure on the history but I think the Titans may have been the Oilers while they were in Nashville before they moved to Memphis. Or was that Memphis to Nashville? And I have no idea but was Oilers an option when the Texans came into the league? The St. Louis Rams are another example but I don’t think anyone in L.A. gives a shit.[/quote]

    Nope- you’re very right. The Titans did operate for two seasons as the Tenn Oilers. The first season was in Memphis. The second was at Vandy. I may be wrong with specifics…

    The Oilers weren’t an option for the new Houston team…I think Bud Adams still has the name.[/quote]
    If that’s the case then it is a similar situation in that the name and history are gone but unlike the other cases it doesn’t come to town and wag it’s finger in your face 53 guys at a time.

  • maximumK | December 26, 2006 at 11:32 pm |

    Since 1984, Baltimore has a Super Bowl championship and Indy has a lot of disappointment. Assuming Steve McNair doesn’t get himself killed in the next few weeks, another “Bawlmer” might be getting its third Lombardi Trophy. Indianapolis…well, they lost to the Texans – need I say more?

  • maximumK | December 26, 2006 at 11:34 pm |

    ahem….that should read: “‘Bawlmer might be getting it’s third Lombardi Trophy.” I’m not sure why the word “another” was in there, but…i am quite wrong.

  • Zurk | December 27, 2006 at 1:03 am |

    Has anyone been watching the Motor City Bowl? Central Michigan’s uniforms are outfitted by New Balance…what other team, pro, or college is outiftted by New Balance? I am used to seeing Nike, Reebok, Adidas, and even the occasional Under Armous… but New Balance? I can’t think of any other teams outfitted by them off the top of my head.

    Wyoming or Colorado State maybe? There’s also and SEC school, I think…
    Has anyone been watching the Motor City Bowl? Central Michigan’s uniforms are outfitted by New Balance…what other team, pro, or college is outiftted by New Balance? I am used to seeing Nike, Reebok, Adidas, and even the occasional Under Armous… but New Balance? I can’t think of any other teams outfitted by them off the top of my head.

    Wyoming or Colorado State maybe? There’s also and SEC school, I think…
    Has anyone been watching the Motor City Bowl? Central Michigan’s uniforms are outfitted by New Balance…what other team, pro, or college is outiftted by New Balance? I am used to seeing Nike, Reebok, Adidas, and even the occasional Under Armous… but New Balance? I can’t think of any other teams outfitted by them off the top of my head.

    Wyoming or Colorado State maybe? There’s also and SEC school, I think…

    Colordo State is outfitted by Russell

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 1:41 am |

    [quote comment=”35464″]Minna, I assume you have multiple copies of the September GQ but in case you don’t let me know.[/quote]

    OH MY GOD! WTF???? Why didn’t anyone tell me????? I thought y’all had my back. Back issues! I must get a back issue!

    Um, er, I mean, MetsfanAZ, how interesting. Thank you for informing me that I have missed this issue. Now, I must see if I can snag a copy.

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 1:44 am |

    [quote comment=”35464″]Minna, I assume you have multiple copies of the September GQ but in case you don’t let me know.[/quote]

    Or, are you saying you could hook a sister up, MetsfanAZ?

  • Minna H. | December 27, 2006 at 2:07 am |

    [quote comment=”35464″]Minna, I assume you have multiple copies of the September GQ but in case you don’t let me know.[/quote]

    Grr. Cannot find it online. The only way I can get one is from eBay. Soooo, MetfanAZ, let me know ASAP if you can help me out, or I will be visiting the bad, bad place that mercilessly sucks money out of me. Thanks so much.

  • Ryan Roller | December 27, 2006 at 2:57 am |

    Got free tickets to the Devils v. Penguins game tonight 3 rows behind the goal and noticed a few things (I’m an everyday reader, but I don’t know if this has been touched on).

    1.) The 4’s on Brooks Orpik’s Jersey are weird,and I didn’t see another player with a 4 on for Pittsburgh. From ESPN.com.

    2.) Marc-Andre Fleury, the goalie for Pittsburgh has the letters “E.F.G.H. on the back left side of the helmet, while on the back right side he has a silver, reflective Fleur-de-lis (the French lilly typically known as the New Orleans Saints logo). Sorry, no pictures of that as I couldn’t get a good one from my camera phone.

  • TD | December 27, 2006 at 3:08 am |

    I was previously not aware of my primordial need for a “MOIDER DEM YANKS” t-shirt and/or sticker. I feel enlightened, yet, somehow, incomplete.

  • Teebz | December 27, 2006 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”35499″]
    1.) The 4’s on Brooks Orpik’s Jersey are weird,and I didn’t see another player with a 4 on for Pittsburgh. From ESPN.com.

    Tomas Surovy has the same number font.

  • Ryan Roller | December 27, 2006 at 12:49 pm |

    Surovy must have been a scratch because I did not see him on the ice last night.

  • Larry Coode | December 29, 2006 at 2:25 am |

    Did you notice LBJ (bow tie, Stetson in hand) behind/under Ike’s throwing hand in the prez-first-pitch gallery? Odd since they ran in different party circles. Johnson was also in JFK’s pic, but that’s more understandable since he was veep at the time.

    And add me to the list of history majors (close enough to poly sci…and a masters no less) and baseball fan geeks…the first-pitch retrospective was terrific. Great stuff!