And He Always Flew Coach, Too

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New ESPN column today. I’ll add the link when it goes live. [Update: No ESPN column today after all. It'll run next week.]

Meanwhile: As I noted at the end of yesterday’s Uni Watch News Ticker, the Chiefs will presumably wear some sort of memorial tribute this weekend for team founder Lamar Hunt, who died on Wednesday. But Hunt’s passing has already provided some valuable uni-watchery, thanks to a memorial photo gallery that’s been posted on the Chiefs’ web site (first brought to my attention yesterday by reader Jacob Reed). Many of the pics feature great little uni-related details I’d never seen before. Check it out:

• We’ve all seen Hank Stram wearing this Chiefs logo blazer. But I’d never seen him wearing one with the team name spelled out.

• Even better: Dig the amazing team-branded blazers worn by Hunt and Bud Adams in this 1962 shot, back when the Chiefs were still the Dallas Texans. Looks like Adams might also be wearing an Oilers tie tack.

• Speaking of the Texans, dig this shot of Hunt and his young son, the latter wearing a Texans T-shirt. Love to know what Goodwill outlet that eventually got donated to.

• Here’s something you don’t see anymore: a postgame celebration with one of the players (Sherrill Headrick, in this case) smoking a cigarette.

• Here’s Hunt presenting the NFL Man of the Year Award to Derrick Thomas in 1993. The uni detail that fascinates me here is the trophy itself: Like, when’s the last time you saw an NFL player wearing a poncho? Or maybe it’s supposed to be a superhero’s cape?

• How many NFL teams have uni-numbered ski caps?

• Check out Chiefs prexy Carl Peterson in this shot: He’s got the “58” button (a memorial for Derrick Thomas), the red-white-blue Chiefs ribbon (not sure what that’s for — the photo isn’t dated, but Thomas died in 2000, so the ribbon probably isn’t 9/11-related), and it looks like there’s a number on his tie (no idea).

• And in an age when Reebok dresses the coaches wear those ridiculous polo shirt designs, the elemental simplicity of this is quite refreshing.

‘Husker History: Reader Jonathon Binet has turned up a sensational little video chronicling the history of Nebraska’s football helmets. Check it out below:

Helmet Raffle Update: Speaking of helmets, I got a note yesterday from Pete Ellingsworth, winner of our Gridiron Memories helmet raffle. He says he’s taking the 1976-72 Indiana helmet — “I love the simple ‘I’ and stripes on the crimson
helmet,” he writes. “Plus I’m from Indiana (never mind the fact that I now reside in Burbank, California). I just wish IU would stop wearing those red on red unis!” Gotta love a contest winner who works a uni critique into his victory speech. Congrats, Pete!

No mas? No, mas!: My recent profile of No Mas led to a Wednesday-night sit-down between myself and No Mas principals I-berg and Large. Fueled by a pu pu platter and ample servings of chicken chop suey and “Richard Yee’s Style Chow Clams” (better than it looks), we discussed several weighty matters, including the possibility of creating a line of No Mas/Uni Watch co-branded T-shirts. Stay tuned.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Speaking of NFL coaches’ polos, check out the swash-“S” at the end of the insignia on Vince Lombardi’s shirt (with thanks to Robert Erdtmann). … An Orioles prole has been caught stealing team items, including jerseys and jackets, and selling them on eBay (as spotted on the police blotter by Matt French). … Turns out Daisuke Matsuzaka was fated to join the Red Sox all along — check out the stirrups he wore in high school (good catch by Richard Stover). … Remember Joe Pavelski’s upside-down Reebok logo, which first showed up about two weeks ago? Pavelski’s childhood friend and Uni Watch reader John Okray asked him about it on Wednesday. “He didn’t even realize it,” Okray reports. “He said, ‘I heard something about that. I forgot to look for it last night before I put my jersey on. I hadn’t noticed until somebody said something to me about it.’ Is it possible players aren’t as obsessed with their jerseys as we are? [There's a stunner. -- PL] The Sharks don’t have another road game until December 30th, so maybe the problem will be fixed by then.” … Okray also notes that Dwyane Wade, who was inexplicably wearing that Nike-branded Heat jersey on the cover of SI a week or two ago, now has three stripes shaved into his head. A mea culpa to Adidas, perhaps? … Good note from Chuck Miller, who writes: “Butte, Montana, is the hometown of motorcycle daredevil Evel Knievel. The city’s new CBA basketball franchise is not only named the Daredevils, but their uniforms are an interpretation of Knievel’s famous ‘Commander Jumpsuit’ motorcycle leathers.” All this was presumably done with Evel’s blessing, given his litigious nature. … A few days ago I linked to this photo of the 1905 Cherokee Male Seminary football team. I mentioned the noseguards that most of the players have hanging from their necks, but Michael Ferry has noticed something I missed regarding a few of the players seated in the middle row: “I was wondering if those are ‘helmets’ on the knee and arms, respectively, of those on the far right and left.” Looks like it, but those would definitely be the flimsiest helmets I’ve ever seen, so I asked Helmet Hut prexy Curtis Worrell, who said they’re definitely helmets. “Look at this,” he wrote back. “The helmet top far right has the same openings.” … The Marlins will have a sleeve patch next season celebrating the 10th anniversary of their 1997 championship. … Man, one lousy signature on a contract and suddenly you’ve got two Boston jerseys in one day. … Matt Corica notes that Seahawks’ “neon-snot sleeve stripe” was missing Deion Branch’s jersey last night, and from Nate Burleson’s too. … Looks like Mike Nolan went from wearing a suit to joining the janitorial staff.

 

161 comments to And He Always Flew Coach, Too

  • maximumK | December 15, 2006 at 8:18 am |

    woo hoo! i’m up early enough for #1!

  • barney | December 15, 2006 at 8:28 am |

    Always liked those Redskins’ uniforms as seen in that Lombardi/Jurgensen SI cover shot.

  • Andrew | December 15, 2006 at 8:32 am |

    Regarding the recent discussions of Native American names, it’s interesting to note that the SI cover has the headline “The Scalping Party Begins”. Could anyone get away with that now?

  • Richard | December 15, 2006 at 8:34 am |

    Nolan was probably dressing for the weather outside in Seattle, as there was flooding in the stadium from the rain that went through early in the game.

  • maximumK | December 15, 2006 at 8:35 am |

    Big props to Pete Ellingsworth for winning the helmet thing, and even bigger props for choosing the helmet I would’ve taken had I won. I love IU’s old school two-stripe design, and I was so happy when they wore it last year vs. Purdue.

  • Cork | December 15, 2006 at 8:41 am |

    Yes but those retro Indiana helmets left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth when they decided to go with the red facemask instead of the traditional grey.

  • Stuby | December 15, 2006 at 8:41 am |

    Why in the world does the Marlins commemorative patch have so much orange in it? Not exactly a complementary accent to teal.

  • Robert | December 15, 2006 at 8:49 am |

    [quote comment="30337"]Always liked those Redskins’ uniforms as seen in that Lombardi/Jurgensen SI cover shot.[/quote]

    Agreed. I have never liked the red pants, and wish that they would be abandoned forever.

    Love the idea of the Evel Knievel salute built into the CBA uniforms. Every kid my age worshiped him back in the early 1970s.

  • Burrill | December 15, 2006 at 9:01 am |

    Another Chelsea High School uni update, because I can:

    The basketball team got new unis this year. Here’s another look. Those are the home whites; I haven’t yet seen the away blues (well, I assume they’re blue).

    Here’s a question: in the first one, an S is visible on the shorts. I assume that’s a manufacturer’s logo, but I don’t recognize it. Whose is it?

    Also, Chelsea’s very talented big man graduated, and they didn’t have a lot of size to replace him, so they’ve turned into a small, fast team. With that in mind, they’ve adopted a Top Gun-inspired theme this year (with the slogan “The need for speed”), including a Top Gun-inspired Chelsea Basketball logo on the warmups (I’ll get a shot of that tonight). Because of that theme, in an amusing development, the student section has taken to wearing aviator sunglasses.

    I keep hoping to see the players wearing aviators during warmups or something.

  • Paul Lukas | December 15, 2006 at 9:04 am |

    [quote comment="30335"]woo hoo! i’m up early enough for #1![/quote]

    At the risk of sounding like a Scrooge, can we please give this kind of thing a rest? It’s embarrassing for all concerned.

  • kevlay | December 15, 2006 at 9:11 am |

    “The uni detail that fascinates me here is the trophy itself: Like, when’s the last time you saw an NFL player wearing a poncho?”

    Players wear these “ponchos” all of the time in cold weather games. I saw many players wearing them during last Thursday night’s Steelers-Browns game. Sorry no pics.

  • DJL | December 15, 2006 at 9:13 am |

    [quote comment="30348"][quote comment="30335"]woo hoo! i’m up early enough for #1![/quote]

    At the risk of sounding like a Scrooge, can we please give this kind of thing a rest? It’s embarrassing for all concerned.[/quote]

    Scrooge,

    Did you see this article in the Chicago Sun-Times about game worn jerseys for Christmas presents?

    My favorite quote was from an unnamed Chicago Bears player who quipped, ”So that’s why I’ve got a new uniform almost every game,” one player said when told his stuff was being sold.

  • kevlay | December 15, 2006 at 9:13 am |

    [quote comment="30350"]“The uni detail that fascinates me here is the trophy itself: Like, when’s the last time you saw an NFL player wearing a poncho?”

    Players wear these “ponchos” all of the time in cold weather games. I saw many players wearing them during last Thursday night’s Steelers-Browns game. Sorry no pics.[/quote]

    kinda weird to include it on a trophy though…

  • Micah | December 15, 2006 at 9:18 am |

    D. Wade is in no way honoring adidas with that three-stripe wave in his hair; that is a common hair style for many players. He is sponsored by Converse, a subsidary of Nike, so that is in no way true.

  • Rich | December 15, 2006 at 9:21 am |

    [quote comment="30338"]Regarding the recent discussions of Native American names, it’s interesting to note that the SI cover has the headline “The Scalping Party Begins”. Could anyone get away with that now?[/quote]

    I was thinking the same thing, and no, probably not.

  • DJL | December 15, 2006 at 9:24 am |

    [quote comment="30350"]“The uni detail that fascinates me here is the trophy itself: Like, when’s the last time you saw an NFL player wearing a poncho?”

    Players wear these “ponchos” all of the time in cold weather games. I saw many players wearing them during last Thursday night’s Steelers-Browns game. Sorry no pics.[/quote]

    Here are some photos of Browns wearing the ponchos.

    Notice the lack of sleeves.

  • Kim | December 15, 2006 at 9:30 am |

    Are those Seahawks really missing the neon snot-green stripes, or are those stripes rolled up under the pads? It would seem that’s the case for the second picture (and he’s wearing a short sleeve BA stlye undershirt that give the illusion of no snot-green stripes.)

  • shadoquad | December 15, 2006 at 9:31 am |

    [quote comment="30358"][quote comment="30350"]“The uni detail that fascinates me here is the trophy itself: Like, when’s the last time you saw an NFL player wearing a poncho?”

    Players wear these “ponchos” all of the time in cold weather games. I saw many players wearing them during last Thursday night’s Steelers-Browns game. Sorry no pics.[/quote]

    Here are some photos of Browns wearing the ponchos.

    Notice the lack of sleeves.[/quote]

    Alex Smith wore one last night for the “Squared Sevens”

  • Ian K | December 15, 2006 at 9:31 am |

    [quote comment="30358"][quote comment="30350"]“The uni detail that fascinates me here is the trophy itself: Like, when’s the last time you saw an NFL player wearing a poncho?”

    Players wear these “ponchos” all of the time in cold weather games. I saw many players wearing them during last Thursday night’s Steelers-Browns game. Sorry no pics.[/quote]

    Here are some photos of Browns wearing the ponchos.

    Notice the lack of sleeves.[/quote]

    Forget the poncho – how about Derrick Thomas’ sweet threads? Red blazer AND a flat gold chain over the shirt? Man, makes me want to watch some Fresh Prince of Bel-Air or something.

  • Pat | December 15, 2006 at 9:34 am |

    Was Deion Branch’s apparent rebellion against team uniformities the reason for his killing my fantasy team last night? I say yes.

  • Kenny | December 15, 2006 at 9:36 am |

    [quote comment="30338"]Regarding the recent discussions of Native American names, it’s interesting to note that the SI cover has the headline “The Scalping Party Begins”. Could anyone get away with that now?[/quote]

    Beat me to it, I saw that immediately

    Also anyone notice how much that player’s sleeve is rolled up?

  • dilbert719 | December 15, 2006 at 9:36 am |

    Re: the Seahawks jerseys, I don’t think the stripes are missing. If you compare sleeve lengths on Branch’s jersey with Hasselbeck’s, you can see that Branch’s sleeve ends just below the two logos, while Hasselbeck’s is much longer, and the material seems bunched up. It looks like Branch rolled the insides of his sleeves up.

    Burleson, similar detail: he’s wearing two sleeves. One ends just under the Hawk logo, and is rolled up; the other is from an undershirt. The two sleeves are slightly different colors, and as you look to the front of Burleson’s jersey, you can see the difference a little bit more clearly. Again, it looks like he tucked that part of his sleeve up; it would stay, since looking at most players’ sleeves, the snot strip is elastic.

  • mg12 | December 15, 2006 at 9:41 am |

    [quote comment="30347"]Another Chelsea High School uni update, because I can:

    The basketball team got new unis this year. Here’s another look. Those are the home whites; I haven’t yet seen the away blues (well, I assume they’re blue).

    Here’s a question: in the first one, an S is visible on the shorts. I assume that’s a manufacturer’s logo, but I don’t recognize it. Whose is it?

    Also, Chelsea’s very talented big man graduated, and they didn’t have a lot of size to replace him, so they’ve turned into a small, fast team. With that in mind, they’ve adopted a Top Gun-inspired theme this year (with the slogan “The need for speed”), including a Top Gun-inspired Chelsea Basketball logo on the warmups (I’ll get a shot of that tonight). Because of that theme, in an amusing development, the student section has taken to wearing aviator sunglasses.

    I keep hoping to see the players wearing aviators during warmups or something.[/quote]

    What are you a Chelsa High School freshman? Neato!

  • Miguel | December 15, 2006 at 9:45 am |

    Here’s something you don’t see anymore: a postgame celebration with one of the players (Sherrill Headrick, in this case) smoking a cigarette.

    Forget the cigarette.

    It’s just nice to see a celbration where the players aren’t required to wear stupid “official champion” shirts.

  • Burrill | December 15, 2006 at 9:45 am |

    [quote comment="30366"]What are you a Chelsa High School freshman? Neato![/quote]

    Nah. I’m well out of high school. Just a sports fan with a camera, more or less.

  • Terry | December 15, 2006 at 9:47 am |

    I don’t know about numbered ski caps, but Romeo Crennel has his name on his, at least at the last Steelers-Browns game.

  • DJL | December 15, 2006 at 9:48 am |

    For every photo I find of Browns players wearing the sideline poncho/overcoat, I cannot find one that shows the backside. Interestingly, when the Browns use the exact same design they’ve had on them from at least the 1960s with the Brownie on the back with the arched “Browns” above him.

    Can anyone help?

  • Jonathan | December 15, 2006 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment="30342"]Why in the world does the Marlins commemorative patch have so much orange in it? Not exactly a complementary accent to teal.[/quote]

    Haha – the Dolphins fans may disagree with you!

  • Rich | December 15, 2006 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment="30358"][quote comment="30350"]“The uni detail that fascinates me here is the trophy itself: Like, when’s the last time you saw an NFL player wearing a poncho?”

    Players wear these “ponchos” all of the time in cold weather games. I saw many players wearing them during last Thursday night’s Steelers-Browns game. Sorry no pics.[/quote]

    Here are some photos of Browns wearing the ponchos.

    Notice the lack of sleeves.[/quote]

    Those pics make it look like they’re hiding their faces in shame! (and given the current record of the Browns, I’ll leave it at that…)

  • Matt Konrad | December 15, 2006 at 9:51 am |

    i couldn’t even see the poncho in that Derrick Thomas photo, so blinded was i by the black collared shirt/under-collar rope of bling combo. i need that outfit for my office christmas party.

    (and, man, that SI headline nearly made me spit my coffee all over the screen.)

  • DJL | December 15, 2006 at 9:53 am |

    Seahawks players were wearing the poncho/overcoat last night.

  • Bill Sour | December 15, 2006 at 9:59 am |

    On Monday, we saw a shot of Warrick Dunn with some belt flappage. In the shot posted Friday of Mike Nolan not wearing a suit, you see Hannibal Navies’ belt hanging completely lose.

  • Patrick | December 15, 2006 at 10:00 am |

    Didn’t know if anybody caught this. I saw it on several of the highlights last night…since I don’t get the network.

  • Lake | December 15, 2006 at 10:00 am |

    [quote comment="30371"][quote comment="30342"]Why in the world does the Marlins commemorative patch have so much orange in it? Not exactly a complementary accent to teal.[/quote]

    Haha – the Dolphins fans may disagree with you![/quote]
    This reminds me- is there any way there could be some kind of list to determine the best and worst looking professional sports cities in North America? All major sports franchises would be included and averaged into the city’s grade. For example, Detroit may get high marks for the Tigers and Red Wings, but may be brought down by the Lions and their black unis.

    This may be fairly time consuming, but I think it would be interesting stuff.

  • Patrick | December 15, 2006 at 10:10 am |

    Anybody know why the one volleyball player wears the different colored jersey?

  • Richard | December 15, 2006 at 10:11 am |

    [quote comment="30377"]Didn’t know if anybody caught this. I saw it on several of the highlights last night…since I don’t get the network.[/quote]

    Yes, Frank Gore was styling the one sock up, one sock down look last night. The only problem is that the high sock didn’t come up high enough for his short pants…

  • kevlay | December 15, 2006 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment="30378"][quote comment="30371"][quote comment="30342"]Why in the world does the Marlins commemorative patch have so much orange in it? Not exactly a complementary accent to teal.[/quote]

    Haha – the Dolphins fans may disagree with you![/quote]
    This reminds me- is there any way there could be some kind of list to determine the best and worst looking professional sports cities in North America? All major sports franchises would be included and averaged into the city’s grade. For example, Detroit may get high marks for the Tigers and Red Wings, but may be brought down by the Lions and their black unis.

    This may be fairly time consuming, but I think it would be interesting stuff.[/quote]

    i think pittsburgh would have to pretty high on this list. the steelers, pirates, and penguins all have pretty nice unis, all black and gold too.

  • Tony Edwards | December 15, 2006 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment="30380"][quote comment="30377"]Didn’t know if anybody caught this. I saw it on several of the highlights last night…since I don’t get the network.[/quote]

    Yes, Frank Gore was styling the one sock up, one sock down look last night. The only problem is that the high sock didn’t come up high enough for his short pants…[/quote]

    I think it is more that Gore’s jersey is untucked and his tag is sticking out. Plus both of his socks are rolled down.

  • DJL | December 15, 2006 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment="30379"]Anybody know why the one volleyball player wears the different colored jersey?[/quote]

    That player is called the “libero,” which means “free” in Italian. The libero is essentially a defensive specialist and has certain limitations depending on the level of play (NCAA or international). The jersey is used because the libero can switch for any backrow player without counting against the sub limitations and need not notify the ref.

  • al | December 15, 2006 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment="30342"]Why in the world does the Marlins commemorative patch have so much orange in it? Not exactly a complementary accent to teal.[/quote]

    That’s true… maybe mgmt. wanted the jersey patch to match the color of the empty seats at Dolphin/JoeRobbiewhateverit’scallednowfootballstadium.

  • The Ol Goaler | December 15, 2006 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment="30379"]Anybody know why the one volleyball player wears the different colored jersey?[/quote]

    That player is the “libero”… a special position that remains on the “back line” throughout the game, regardless of the regular rotation. (“Libero” means “free” in some language with which I’m not familiar.)

  • Michael | December 15, 2006 at 10:26 am |

    Thanks for checking on the helmets in the Cherokee Seminary photo. Calling them flimsy might be a little generous.

  • Steve-O | December 15, 2006 at 10:29 am |

    Does anybody know when the Utah Jazz added their white uniforms? I want to say they didn’t add them till they moved here to utah but I am not sure.

    Hey, check out this awesome website on the history of the green bay packers uniforms.

    also, what is the normal uni watch email address that we can contact paul at?

  • Kim | December 15, 2006 at 10:30 am |

    [quote comment="30382"][quote comment="30378"][quote comment="30371"][quote comment="30342"]Why in the world does the Marlins commemorative patch have so much orange in it? Not exactly a complementary accent to teal.[/quote]

    Haha – the Dolphins fans may disagree with you![/quote]
    This reminds me- is there any way there could be some kind of list to determine the best and worst looking professional sports cities in North America? All major sports franchises would be included and averaged into the city’s grade. For example, Detroit may get high marks for the Tigers and Red Wings, but may be brought down by the Lions and their black unis.

    This may be fairly time consuming, but I think it would be interesting stuff.[/quote]

    i think pittsburgh would have to pretty high on this list. the steelers, pirates, and penguins all have pretty nice unis, all black and gold too.[/quote]

    They all do currently look good, but I think you could give the Pens some negative marks for switching their uni’s a lot over the past decade, though.

    And the Pirates for putting Willie Stargell in tight yellow pants.

  • Broker75 | December 15, 2006 at 10:33 am |

    I’m not sure, but were the 49er’s in retro uni’s Thursday night?

  • Steve-O | December 15, 2006 at 10:34 am |

    sorry about the double post, but i forgot to add this link for an old uniform maker from philadelphia. they have an online shop where you can buy replica jerseys like this one, a message board, and a histroic timeline where you can see jerseys they have made for teams such as the eagles and the athletics

  • Richard | December 15, 2006 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment="30383"][quote comment="30380"][quote comment="30377"]Didn’t know if anybody caught this. I saw it on several of the highlights last night…since I don’t get the network.[/quote]

    Yes, Frank Gore was styling the one sock up, one sock down look last night. The only problem is that the high sock didn’t come up high enough for his short pants…[/quote]

    I think it is more that Gore’s jersey is untucked and his tag is sticking out. Plus both of his socks are rolled down.[/quote]

    Later in the game, he had the one sock up, one sock down – i’m looking for a pic. I must have been paying more attention to that than the jersey tucking (probably because more players have the untucked look)…

  • JimmyMac | December 15, 2006 at 10:38 am |

    The NBA’s new ball, supposedly headed for the unemployment line, will be able to continue moonlighting in Japan (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). …
    In deference to the NBA, the new ball was tested all last year in the DLeague. Although it seems the League did not do their homework, the new design was actually put into play way in advance.

  • Pat | December 15, 2006 at 10:39 am |

    [quote comment="30378"][quote comment="30371"][quote comment="30342"]Why in the world does the Marlins commemorative patch have so much orange in it? Not exactly a complementary accent to teal.[/quote]

    Haha – the Dolphins fans may disagree with you![/quote]
    This reminds me- is there any way there could be some kind of list to determine the best and worst looking professional sports cities in North America? All major sports franchises would be included and averaged into the city’s grade. For example, Detroit may get high marks for the Tigers and Red Wings, but may be brought down by the Lions and their black unis.

    This may be fairly time consuming, but I think it would be interesting stuff.[/quote]

    Not time consuming. Boston wins hands down. Alright fine. How about this one instead.

  • Miguel | December 15, 2006 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment="30391"]I’m not sure, but were the 49er’s in retro uni’s Thursday night?[/quote]

    Their retros don’t have any drop-shadows…and I doubt they’ll ever make a white version…

  • JimmyMac | December 15, 2006 at 10:42 am |

    And get this guy to play Lamar Hunt when the do the movie of his life…Drew Caray…very close resemblence…

    http://online.tvguid...

  • Pat | December 15, 2006 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment="30389"]Hey, check out this awesome website on the history of the green bay packers uniforms.[/quote]

    I’ve always loved the one that said “Acme Packers” on it. I wonder if they ever packed anything for the Wile E. Coyote.

  • Broker75 | December 15, 2006 at 10:49 am |

    Here’s something you don’t see anymore: a postgame celebration with one of the players (Sherrill Headrick, in this case) smoking a cigarette.
    That’s hilarious, cause I was watching the NFL network and they had a special on somebody, I forget, but they were interviewing a lineman and he was smoking Marlboro’s during the locker room interview.
    Paul Coffey of the NHL’s Oilers used to smoke after games also.

  • Broker75 | December 15, 2006 at 10:50 am |

    Those pics make it look like they’re hiding their faces in shame! (and given the current record of the Browns, I’ll leave it at that…)

    eh!, leave the Browns alone, they’re coming around.

  • Stuby | December 15, 2006 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment="30395"][quote comment="30378"][quote comment="30371"][quote comment="30342"]Why in the world does the Marlins commemorative patch have so much orange in it? Not exactly a complementary accent to teal.[/quote]

    Haha – the Dolphins fans may disagree with you![/quote]
    This reminds me- is there any way there could be some kind of list to determine the best and worst looking professional sports cities in North America? All major sports franchises would be included and averaged into the city’s grade. For example, Detroit may get high marks for the Tigers and Red Wings, but may be brought down by the Lions and their black unis.

    This may be fairly time consuming, but I think it would be interesting stuff.[/quote]

    Not time consuming. Boston wins hands down. Alright fine. How about this one instead.[/quote]

    For worst uni city, I would like to nominate Denver. They are all pretty hideous.

  • Kyle | December 15, 2006 at 10:58 am |

    The funny thing about Hunt’s son wearing that Texans T-shirt… the fact that he’s in the Chiefs’ locker room! Look on the floor behind his dad, you can see a helmet with the arrowheads on the side, not a Texans helmet.

    Looks like the poor kid didn’t get a new T-shirt during the team move… either that or he was the first kid to think that retro T-shirts were cool.

  • Broker75 | December 15, 2006 at 11:00 am |

    I love when pro sports teams bring in or honor another athlete from another league. It shows class and support all around.

  • GoTerriers | December 15, 2006 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment="30379"]Anybody know why the one volleyball player wears the different colored jersey?[/quote]

    Somebody didn’t take the Uniwatch Quiz . . . .

  • Pat | December 15, 2006 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment="30404"]I love when pro sports teams bring in or honor another athlete from another league. It shows class and support all around.[/quote]

    As long as they don’t make him a #18 Celtics jersey you are absolutely correct. A #18 celtics Matsuzaka jersey would make me sick.

  • Broker75 | December 15, 2006 at 11:11 am |

    [quote comment="30408"][quote comment="30404"]I love when pro sports teams bring in or honor another athlete from another league. It shows class and support all around.[/quote]

    As long as they don’t make him a #18 Celtics jersey you are absolutely correct. A #18 celtics Matsuzaka jersey would make me sick.[/quote]
    haha, those pics were funny looking.
    What does the brass think of the Predators’ alternates?

  • RIch | December 15, 2006 at 11:22 am |

    That HS photo of Dice-K, besides the stirrups, has a 67 RedSox look.

  • Kenny | December 15, 2006 at 11:24 am |

    As much as I do not like the Packers they need to go back to these

  • Nick Maibroda | December 15, 2006 at 11:36 am |

    Not everyday you can bid on a scrub of Dr. Thomas Vokoun. I wonder if they will start putting up for auction the x-rays players get or the teeth they lose during games. Built it and they will come. Put it up for auction and they will bid!

  • junkland | December 15, 2006 at 11:40 am |

    [quote comment="30412"]That HS photo of Dice-K, besides the stirrups, has a 67 RedSox look.[/quote]

    So Boston signed a washed-up comedian?

    Hickery dickery dock! Andrew Dice K is the newest Red Sock! OHHHH!

  • Jeff | December 15, 2006 at 11:50 am |

    Can somebody get in touch with the Seahawks’ bigwigs and point out the amazing contrast between good uniforms and bad uniforms in last night’s game?

  • WVU Tom | December 15, 2006 at 12:09 pm |

    My apologies if someone already brought this up-

    ESPN Page2 article on voting mishaps in sports. Not a uni-related article, per se, until you reach the last entry, where it states that in 2003 the Denver Broncos reached the finals against Michigan in a poll for the best unifoms in sports. Again this was 2003, so I’m assuming this was refering to the latest version of the Broncos unis (although there may have been throwback categories?). If it is the current unis in question, how could you not suspect voter fraud!?!

    It kills me when teams make drastic uniform changes to go from a great classic look to something that could only have been generated by faulty market research and overthinking (Broncos, Bills, Bengals, etc.) Someone definately needs to step back and say, “wait a minute, are these good, or stupid?”

  • Matt B | December 15, 2006 at 12:13 pm |

    Re the ‘Hawks “neon snot stripe,” I’m probably in the minority, but it’s the only redeeming element in Seattle’s dull & boring look. Ordinarily I’d be against neon green anything, but here it’s a spark of life on an otherwise depressing color palette.

    And as for numbered ski caps, I reported John Stocco of the Badgers wearing one here on the boards a little while back. Don’t remember which game — Iowa? — he was on the sidelines injured that week.

  • graham | December 15, 2006 at 12:18 pm |

    I think it was announced that Nolan and Del Rio were only allowed to wear their suits twice this season. Probably why he’s wearing the windbreaker and windpants, although the weather likely had something to do with it too.

  • graham | December 15, 2006 at 12:20 pm |

    The story is buried in here somewhere
    http://msn.foxsports...

  • Brad B. | December 15, 2006 at 12:23 pm |

    Today’s headline was how I always remembered Lamar Hunt. I could not believe on a late afternoon flight from Columbus, OH to Dallas, TX in July 1998 sitting in our row was Mr. Hunt – in coach. One of the wealthiest men in the world flying coach. He was engaging and polite during the flight, and genuinely interested in my business, along with sharing his business that day in Columbus for the soccer team – the Crew.

  • Vince Grzegorek | December 15, 2006 at 12:24 pm |

    For every photo I find of Browns players wearing the sideline poncho/overcoat, I cannot find one that shows the backside. Interestingly, when the Browns use the exact same design they’ve had on them from at least the 1960s with the Brownie on the back with the arched “Browns” above him.

    Can anyone help?

    It is funny that this topic got brought up today. I just finished a short piece on “Brownie the Elf” for Paul today that was inspired by the appearance of the elf on the back of the sideline parkas of the Browns this year.

    The piece should be up sometime soon. Stay tuned.

    -Vince Grzegorek
    Uni Watch Intern

    PS. I’ll be researching sideline parkas (the heavy duty coldass weather kind) in the coming weeks… if anyone comes across good pics please pass them on to vincegrzegorek@gmail.com.

    Thanks.

  • Rich | December 15, 2006 at 12:36 pm |

    [quote comment="30400"]Those pics make it look like they’re hiding their faces in shame! (and given the current record of the Browns, I’ll leave it at that…)

    eh!, leave the Browns alone, they’re coming around.[/quote]

    I know, I know, I’m just teasin’. And being a ‘skins fan, I’ve got no room to talk! : )

  • Kerry | December 15, 2006 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment="30389"]Does anybody know when the Utah Jazz added their white uniforms? I want to say they didn’t add them till they moved here to utah but I am not sure.[/quote]
    Ummmm as far as I know…they’ve ALWAYS had WHITE JERSEYS.

  • Kenny | December 15, 2006 at 12:41 pm |

    [quote comment="30415"][quote comment="30412"]That HS photo of Dice-K, besides the stirrups, has a 67 RedSox look.[/quote]

    So Boston signed a washed-up comedian?

    Hickery dickery dock! Andrew Dice K is the newest Red Sock!

    OHHHH![/quote]

    At least I’m not the only one who thought this when they started calling him Dice-K

  • mrf | December 15, 2006 at 12:49 pm |

    the white subscription box on the cover of my sports illustrated had the nike tag covered up on the d-wade photo…

  • Deron Steinke | December 15, 2006 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment="30347"]Another Chelsea High School uni update, because I can:

    The basketball team got new unis this year. Here’s another look. Those are the home whites; I haven’t yet seen the away blues (well, I assume they’re blue).

    Here’s a question: in the first one, an S is visible on the shorts. I assume that’s a manufacturer’s logo, but I don’t recognize it. Whose is it?[/quote]

    Those are manufactured by Speedline as shown here.

  • Brad | December 15, 2006 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment="30378"][quote comment="30371"][quote comment="30342"]Why in the world does the Marlins commemorative patch have so much orange in it? Not exactly a complementary accent to teal.[/quote]

    Haha – the Dolphins fans may disagree with you![/quote]
    This reminds me- is there any way there could be some kind of list to determine the best and worst looking professional sports cities in North America? All major sports franchises would be included and averaged into the city’s grade. For example, Detroit may get high marks for the Tigers and Red Wings, but may be brought down by the Lions and their black unis.

    This may be fairly time consuming, but I think it would be interesting stuff.[/quote]

    And the winning city is…..Pittsburgh. You have the Steelers having the best NFL jerseys…the Pens are top 5-7, and the Pirates have a nice look (if you can forgive their BP attire)

  • chris | December 15, 2006 at 1:00 pm |

    With some apologies to Boston… Chicago, hands down has the best jerseys, let alone the best teams.

  • chris | December 15, 2006 at 1:04 pm |

    Speaking of speedline, how can they get away with copying signature styles like the one on the left or next page with kansas?

  • DJL | December 15, 2006 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment="30426"]For every photo I find of Browns players wearing the sideline poncho/overcoat, I cannot find one that shows the backside. Interestingly, when the Browns use the exact same design they’ve had on them from at least the 1960s with the Brownie on the back with the arched “Browns” above him.

    Can anyone help?

    It is funny that this topic got brought up today. I just finished a short piece on “Brownie the Elf” for Paul today that was inspired by the appearance of the elf on the back of the sideline parkas of the Browns this year.

    The piece should be up sometime soon. Stay tuned.

    -Vince Grzegorek
    Uni Watch Intern

    PS. I’ll be researching sideline parkas (the heavy duty coldass weather kind) in the coming weeks… if anyone comes across good pics please pass them on to vincegrzegorek@gmail.com.

    Thanks.[/quote]

    Thanks Vince.

    The Brownie Elf must have fallen out of favor with the resurgence of the new Browns in 1999, as it was probably overlooked by the corporate capitalization of the “Dawg Pound” name. Half of all merchandise in the late 90s, early 2000s had the bullshit Dawg Pound logos.

    Now, good luck finding either Dawg Pound logo on any merchandise other than the clearance rack. You’ll also note that a lot more Browns merchandise now includes Brownie, which I like.

    One of my favorite characterizations of the Brownie is used on a Mitchell & Ness jacket. Feel free to send it my way if anyone has the $400+ laying around.

  • Matthew S. | December 15, 2006 at 1:17 pm |

    Jeff Bagwell retired officially today. I would have loved to see him get to 500 HR’s, but his shoulder just wouldn’t allow him to play anymore. Anyway, I was thinking about it and as great as Bagwell is (and he’s a really nice guy, he came and signed autographs at my elementary school when he was in his rookie season…I was in second grade at the time), he may be one of the originators of the pajama pants look in baseball.

    http://i.a.cnn.net/s...

    In Bagwell’s case though, he probably started wearing the looser fitting pants due to his unusual, crouching batting stance: http://img.coxnewswe...

  • Matthew S. | December 15, 2006 at 1:28 pm |

    In the course of looking for a picture of Jeff Bagwell, I turned up this photo Astros pitcher (and later manager) Larry Dierker. Check out the stirrups he’s sporting.

    http://www.astrosdai...

  • dchis | December 15, 2006 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment="30431"][quote comment="30415"][quote comment="30412"]That HS photo of Dice-K, besides the stirrups, has a 67 RedSox look.[/quote]

    So Boston signed a washed-up comedian?

    Hickery dickery dock! Andrew Dice K is the newest Red Sock!

    OHHHH![/quote]

    At least I’m not the only one who thought this when they started calling him Dice-K[/quote]

    They didn’t just start calling him “Dice-K” that is how you pronounce “Daisuke.”

  • Brian | December 15, 2006 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment="30395"][quote comment="30378"][quote comment="30371"][quote comment="30342"]Why in the world does the Marlins commemorative patch have so much orange in it? Not exactly a complementary accent to teal.[/quote]

    Haha – the Dolphins fans may disagree with you![/quote]
    This reminds me- is there any way there could be some kind of list to determine the best and worst looking professional sports cities in North America? All major sports franchises would be included and averaged into the city’s grade. For example, Detroit may get high marks for the Tigers and Red Wings, but may be brought down by the Lions and their black unis.

    This may be fairly time consuming, but I think it would be interesting stuff.[/quote]

    Not time consuming. Boston wins hands down. Alright fine. How about this one instead.[/quote]

    I def agree with you on this one Pat the contest isn’t even a contest when you add in the Pat Patriot old school unis.

  • Burrill | December 15, 2006 at 1:50 pm |

    Really, if you’re going to dock points for the Bears’ occasional monochromatic lapse or the Lions’ alternate jerseys, then you’re going to have to dock more points for the Pats’ year-round football unis. The comparison to the old just makes the error more egregious.

    So I don’t think Bostom is such a clear winner.

  • Burrill | December 15, 2006 at 1:53 pm |

    Boston.

    Obviously, my typing is not a clear winner, either. Next thing you know, I’ll forget to close a tag. Who knows what could come next?

  • Bob in Hopewell | December 15, 2006 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment="30435"][quote comment="30378"][quote comment="30371"][quote comment="30342"]Why in the world does the Marlins commemorative patch have so much orange in it? Not exactly a complementary accent to teal.[/quote]

    Haha – the Dolphins fans may disagree with you![/quote]
    This reminds me- is there any way there could be some kind of list to determine the best and worst looking professional sports cities in North America? All major sports franchises would be included and averaged into the city’s grade. For example, Detroit may get high marks for the Tigers and Red Wings, but may be brought down by the Lions and their black unis.

    This may be fairly time consuming, but I think it would be interesting stuff.[/quote]

    And the winning city is…..Pittsburgh. You have the Steelers having the best NFL jerseys…the Pens are top 5-7, and the Pirates have a nice look (if you can forgive their BP attire)[/quote]

    Not sure if this qualifies as good or bad…

  • Matthew S. | December 15, 2006 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment="30451"]Boston.

    Obviously, my typing is not a clear winner, either. Next thing you know, I’ll forget to close a tag. Who knows what could come next?[/quote]

    I forgot to close a tag earlier, but then I wasn’t the one who opened in the first place…anyway, I’m not declaring Boston the winner, I’m just saying that Chicago does not have as sterling uniform credentials as was being claimed.

  • Jeff | December 15, 2006 at 2:10 pm |

    I remember those cold weather parkas being broken out all the time when I went to the Browns games in the early 80’s. They were brown with “Browns” in block lettering on the back. Municiple stadium, being right next to the lake was a cold, cold place (I remember freezing my butt off during an Indians game in July – that wind was brutal).

    Speaking of the Browns… Now I think their Unis are about as good as it gets. I loved the tweaks with the reverting back to the gray masks and the sholder stripes going back to just white and orange.

    But why does it seem like uni modification is always two steps forward and then two steps back? I loathe that they got rid of the stripes on the socks, and with they’d do awaay with the comemorative patches (the AL patch on the sleeve and the huge 60 year patch on the front).

    If they could remove the patches, bring back the sock stripes from last year, and move the TV numbers off the shoulders and onto the helmets (or just get rid of them completely), it’d be uni nirvana.

  • graham | December 15, 2006 at 2:12 pm |

    [quote comment="30431"][quote comment="30415"][quote comment="30412"]That HS photo of Dice-K, besides the stirrups, has a 67 RedSox look.[/quote]

    So Boston signed a washed-up comedian?

    Hickery dickery dock! Andrew Dice K is the newest Red Sock!

    OHHHH![/quote]

    At least I’m not the only one who thought this when they started calling him Dice-K[/quote]

    No, you’re not the only one, you and the other 8 billion people on earth who have seen Sportscenter in the last month

  • Tim B | December 15, 2006 at 2:13 pm |

    Random Browns thoughts…

    As far as the Browns go, it seemed like when they first started, Policy and crew wanted to establish their own identity and separate themselves from the past. It took many, many years into Browns 2.0 for them to openly embrace the past, and has just been happening in recent, post-Policy years.

    A few marks they retired, was this:
    http://www.sportslog...

    and replaced it with this:
    http://www.sportslog...

    I thought Brownie more fell out of favor in the Modell years, and didnt get much face time in Browns 2.0 until the past few years.

    I own, and they used sell a poster/print of the “last game at the stadium” that used this picture, of the old brown overcoat…

    http://myspace-408.v...

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 15, 2006 at 2:19 pm |

    [quote comment="30416"]Can somebody get in touch with the Seahawks’ bigwigs and point out the amazing contrast between good uniforms and bad uniforms in last night’s game?[/quote]

    They both suck! The 9’ers current logo has too many ovals, the red is too burgundy and the drop shadow unnecessary! They need to go back to the 80’s versions…which I have heard rumors that Mike Nolan is trying to do!

  • DenverGregg | December 15, 2006 at 2:22 pm |

    I’ll grant that Denver’s not the best uni city, but it’s way better than (at a minimum): Miami, Atlanta, Phoenix, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Jacksonvillage . . . .

    Chicago’s probably best-dressed for a city with all four major pro sports (the Bears, White Sox, Black Hawks and Fire all at or near the top of their respective leagues).

    In my book, DC comes out worst for cities that have MLB, NFL, NHL and MLS, but they’re not very close to the bottom in either NFL or MLS.

    Miami and Atlanta have a tough battle for worst-dressed city if you skip MLS. The Braves, other than the red jersey, have looked good for 20 years, but the new Falcons unis are atrocious enough to make up for it. The Thrashers and (hockey) Panthers both look teams from a bad made-for-TV movie. The Dolphins’ combo of teal and drop-shadows is visual ipecac. The Marlins kept the teal mistake going. I think Miami gets the nod.

    Orange County should get a most-improved award for the Ducks recent change and the Angels’ replacement of one of the worst uni’s ever with a decent one.

    Oh yeah, the Eagles should bring back the look ofSuper Bowl XV.

  • Jeff | December 15, 2006 at 2:22 pm |

    Paul,

    While searching for a picture of Browns players in a parka I came across this unusual picture of astronaut Donald Thomas in a Cleveland Browns/NASA astronaut uni.

    Browns Space suit

  • Vince Grzegorek | December 15, 2006 at 2:25 pm |

    Here’s the link to the Browns parka with the elf.

    The rest of Elf related material will have to wait…

    Vince

  • Vince Grzegorek | December 15, 2006 at 2:27 pm |

    Also, on the left hand side behind Bill Cowher in this pic is a 1/2 view of the back of the parka.

  • Broker75 | December 15, 2006 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment="30428"][quote comment="30400"]Those pics make it look like they’re hiding their faces in shame! (and given the current record of the Browns, I’ll leave it at that…)

    eh!, leave the Browns alone, they’re coming around.[/quote]

    I know, I know, I’m just teasin’. And being a ‘skins fan, I’ve got no room to talk! : )[/quote]
    Redskins eh, seems there is the reason for our dis-agreement cause I follow the Giants.
    Jason Campbell looks promising though (for some reason, when I first saw Jason Campbell, I was surprised, it just sounds like a white name) no harm intended please and thank-you.

  • CubsFanBudMan | December 15, 2006 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment="30459"]
    Chicago’s probably best-dressed for a city with all four major pro sports (the Bears, White Sox, Black Hawks and Fire all at or near the top of their respective leagues).

    [/quote]

    Listing “all four major pro sports” and leaving out the NBA? Interesting. Don’t think the Bulls hurt Chicago’s chances, but I’m biased.

  • Broker75 | December 15, 2006 at 2:32 pm |

    [quote comment="30461"]Here’s the link to the Browns parka with the elf.

    The rest of Elf related material will have to wait…

    Vince[/quote]
    I love it!

  • Broker75 | December 15, 2006 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment="30465"][quote comment="30459"]
    Chicago’s probably best-dressed for a city with all four major pro sports (the Bears, White Sox, Black Hawks and Fire all at or near the top of their respective leagues).

    [/quote]

    Listing “all four major pro sports” and leaving out the NBA? Interesting. Don’t think the Bulls hurt Chicago’s chances, but I’m biased.[/quote]
    NBA-New Ball Arrangements
    it seems that league is one of the most violent ones out there

  • Jeff | December 15, 2006 at 2:36 pm |

    Ah-ha! Thanks for the the link Tim B. That is indeed the old Browns parka I remembered. Except that I erroneously remembered it as having block lettering when it actually had vertically arched lettering. Nice!

  • Pat | December 15, 2006 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment="30465"][quote comment="30459"]
    Chicago’s probably best-dressed for a city with all four major pro sports (the Bears, White Sox, Black Hawks and Fire all at or near the top of their respective leagues).

    [/quote]

    Listing “all four major pro sports” and leaving out the NBA? Interesting. Don’t think the Bulls hurt Chicago’s chances, but I’m biased.[/quote]

    Agreed that the Bull have some very decent uniforms. But you can’t forgive them for these or these(you can barely see them in that picture, but those are red pinstripes, awful). Plus, those Fire jersey’s are ugly. If you are going to count those in the nice category then don’t forget to add the Revolution. Much better than those Fire jerseys and you gotta dig the two toned socks. Plus, I kind of hate those White Sox pin striped unis. And, last but not least, I don’t know how you can forgive the city of Chicago for this scene. That’s gotta doc them some style points.

  • Shane | December 15, 2006 at 2:53 pm |

    Pat, I think your forgetting one of the best jerseys in the history of MLS, Chicago’s third from two or three years ago. They need to start wearing it again.

  • DJL | December 15, 2006 at 2:56 pm |

    FYI, according to Wikipedia

    The Cleveland Browns are occasionally called the Brownies by their fans and used a brownie elf as an official mascot from their beginnings in 1946 until owner Art Modell phased it out in the mid-1960s. It was revived on a limited basis by the Browns since the team returned in 1999. During the 2004 Season, The Brownie appeared on the Team’s sideline ponchos and equipment trunks.

  • Shane | December 15, 2006 at 2:57 pm |

    And I just got out of my english final, too. You’re.

    Geeeeeez.

  • shoon | December 15, 2006 at 3:01 pm |

    news from eugene: ducks unveiled the helmets. today. the plan is to wear them during their las vegas bowl matchup with BYU (dec. 21 on espn). the uniform itself will probably end up looking like this.

    still wish they were sporting the all-whites , but its all good.

  • Eric | December 15, 2006 at 3:06 pm |

    Here’s something you don’t see anymore: a postgame celebration with one of the players (Sherrill Headrick, in this case) smoking a cigarette.

    I seem to remember back in the mid-70’s Guy Lafleur smoking a cigarette after the game (probably after scoring a hat-trick) and putting it out with his skate on the rubber mat when being interviewed by Hockey Night in Canada …

  • Pat | December 15, 2006 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment="30472"]Pat, I think your forgetting one of the best jerseys in the history of MLS, Chicago’s third from two or three years ago. They need to start wearing it again.[/quote]

    As I don’t even follow the Revs I hardly knew there was a Fire nevermind that they had a third jersey that is out of use now. Got to say though, very impressive. But so are the Pat Patriot uniforms and they carry just as much weight as those, so I’m still not convinced that Chicago beats Boston.

  • Teebz | December 15, 2006 at 3:10 pm |

    Before we go touting the city of Chicago, we mustn’t forget these beauties:

    Chicago’s now-defunct other football team. And here’s a close-up of that amazing logo.

    How soon we forget…

    :o)

  • Andy (#11) | December 15, 2006 at 3:12 pm |

    Uh-oh…I believe I’ve spotted purple in the picture of the pu pu platter.

  • dgc | December 15, 2006 at 3:22 pm |

    [quote comment="30459"]
    In my book, DC comes out worst for cities that have MLB, NFL, NHL and MLS, but they’re not very close to the bottom in either NFL or MLS.[/quote]

    Hmm, I would say DC fares better if the Wiz had stayed as the Bullets and the Caps never got away from the red, white and blue. I assume the Nats will get a uni makeover soon to get rid of the cheap-o MLB logo.

  • dgc | December 15, 2006 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment="30484"][quote comment="30459"]
    In my book, DC comes out worst for cities that have MLB, NFL, NHL and MLS, but they’re not very close to the bottom in either NFL or MLS.[/quote]

    Hmm, I would say DC fares better if the Wiz had stayed as the Bullets and the Caps never got away from the red, white and blue. I assume the Nats will get a uni makeover soon to get rid of the cheap-o MLB logo.[/quote]

    Just to be clear, I’m mean getting rid of the Nats’ logos that MLB designed while they still in control of the team, not the MLB logo itself.

  • Broker75 | December 15, 2006 at 3:30 pm |

    I’ve always wondered why the Nationals weren’t called the Washington Senators.

  • Brian | December 15, 2006 at 3:33 pm |

    [quote comment="30479"][quote comment="30472"]Pat, I think your forgetting one of the best jerseys in the history of MLS, Chicago’s third from two or three years ago. They need to start wearing it again.[/quote]

    As I don’t even follow the Revs I hardly knew there was a Fire nevermind that they had a third jersey that is out of use now. Got to say though, very impressive. But so are the Pat Patriot uniforms and they carry just as much weight as those, so I’m still not convinced that Chicago beats Boston.[/quote]

    I disagree with the Boston comment. 10-12 years ago, I would have been on board. However since then:

    REd Sox have changed their road unis (red letters instead of black). Also, they wear the occassional truly awful bright red home jersey on Sundays. I don’t see the Yankees or Tigers introducing a third jersey. The Bruins went through a redesign about a decade ago and the result is truly awful. The Celtics have added a horrible new road uni (see the display against Phila the other night). Lastly, I don’t think anyone can say with a straight face that the “Football Elvis” is anything other than somewhere near the bottom of the league. All in all, these “traditional” teams have thumbed their noses at this traditional fan over the past decade.

  • Matthew S. | December 15, 2006 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment="30489"]I’ve always wondered why the Nationals weren’t called the Washington Senators.[/quote]

    The Texas Rangers still own the name ‘Senators’ I believe and I don’t believe they were ever approached about allowing the Nationals to use it. Even if they had, I’m not sure Tom Hicks would part with it.

    It’s the same reason that the Texans are not the Oilers. Bud Adams wouldn’t give the name up to Bob McNair.

  • Matt | December 15, 2006 at 3:50 pm |

    [quote comment="30491"][quote comment="30489"]I’ve always wondered why the Nationals weren’t called the Washington Senators.[/quote]

    The Texas Rangers still own the name ‘Senators’ I believe and I don’t believe they were ever approached about allowing the Nationals to use it. Even if they had, I’m not sure Tom Hicks would part with it.

    It’s the same reason that the Texans are not the Oilers. Bud Adams wouldn’t give the name up to Bob McNair.[/quote]

    also the Mayor of DC didn’t want to use the name Senators because DC is not actually representated by Senators, he was pushing for the name Greys (after the old negro league team)… MLB didnt like the name Greys so the compromised on the Nationals…

  • DenverGregg | December 15, 2006 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment="30465"][quote comment="30459"]
    Chicago’s probably best-dressed for a city with all four major pro sports (the Bears, White Sox, Black Hawks and Fire all at or near the top of their respective leagues).

    [/quote]

    Listing “all four major pro sports” and leaving out the NBA? Interesting. Don’t think the Bulls hurt Chicago’s chances, but I’m biased.[/quote]

    Quit following NBA about a dozen years ago when it got way too much of the gangsta attitude. Now I go out of my way to avoid NBA.

  • todd krevanchi | December 15, 2006 at 3:58 pm |

    here is a larger image of the duck helmet…
    notice:
    raised logo bumper guard
    the airbrushed silver flame
    (i had always thought that the flame effect was created by the paint used and the angle viewed: similar to the paint job used by cars that change from purple to green dependent on your angle)
    http://www.registerg...

  • dgc | December 15, 2006 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment="30489"]I’ve always wondered why the Nationals weren’t called the Washington Senators.[/quote]

    Bud Selig wanted to call them the Senators. Mayor Williams said “No, because we have no real Senators”. Nationals was the compromise.
    The Senators used to be called the Nationals too, according to this article.

  • Chad G | December 15, 2006 at 4:06 pm |

    [quote comment="30500"]here is a larger image of the duck helmet…
    notice:
    raised logo bumper guard
    the airbrushed silver flame
    (i had always thought that the flame effect was created by the paint used and the angle viewed: similar to the paint job used by cars that change from purple to green dependent on your angle)
    http://www.registerg...

    Congratulations Oregon! I was waiting for you to destroy the only part of your uniform that still looked good.

  • Pat | December 15, 2006 at 4:12 pm |

    [quote comment="30490"][quote comment="30479"][quote comment="30472"]Pat, I think your forgetting one of the best jerseys in the history of MLS, Chicago’s third from two or three years ago. They need to start wearing it again.[/quote]

    As I don’t even follow the Revs I hardly knew there was a Fire nevermind that they had a third jersey that is out of use now. Got to say though, very impressive. But so are the Pat Patriot uniforms and they carry just as much weight as those, so I’m still not convinced that Chicago beats Boston.[/quote]

    I disagree with the Boston comment. 10-12 years ago, I would have been on board. However since then:

    REd Sox have changed their road unis (red letters instead of black). Also, they wear the occassional truly awful bright red home jersey on Sundays. I don’t see the Yankees or Tigers introducing a third jersey. The Bruins went through a redesign about a decade ago and the result is truly awful. The Celtics have added a horrible new road uni (see the display against Phila the other night). Lastly, I don’t think anyone can say with a straight face that the “Football Elvis” is anything other than somewhere near the bottom of the league. All in all, these “traditional” teams have thumbed their noses at this traditional fan over the past decade.[/quote]

    I’ll agree on three points. The Celtics new road unis have to go. But you have to give them some credit for these alts. And there regular uniforms have stayed basically unchanged except for the shamrocks added to the shorts and back of the jersey.

    The Red Sox sometimes Sunday uniform is definitley a little bit of an eye sore.

    The “flying elvis” (not football elvis) is definitley not a very attractive logo, but their actual uniforms aren’t all that bad. Better than probably half of the league. I’m talking about you Buffalo, Atlanta, Seattle, Denver, New Jersey/B (the Jets for all the non-TMQ readers), Philly, Minnesota, Baltimore, Tennessee, Jacksonville, Arizona and Tampa Bay. (I would link to all of those if I weren’t so lazy.)

    But, you can’t really say that the Bruins change was all that bad. I mean this was clearly a superior uniform but there is nothing wrong with this. It’s got some great (and I mean great) sock striping, a matching hemline and arm bands. Plus the “traditional” Bruins spoked logo. At least they got rid of this.

    I would like to see the Sox bring back the “black” (it’s actually navy blue) lettering on the away jerseys as well. But, I would love to see them bring back this (or as I like to call it… the greatest baseball uniform in the history of man).

  • DJL | December 15, 2006 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment="30500"]here is a larger image of the duck helmet…
    notice:
    raised logo bumper guard
    the airbrushed silver flame
    (i had always thought that the flame effect was created by the paint used and the angle viewed: similar to the paint job used by cars that change from purple to green dependent on your angle)
    http://www.registerg...

    You’ll also notice that the fask mask is a different color (black/dark green?) than the original gray shown in the unveiling.

  • Austin Gray | December 15, 2006 at 4:31 pm |

    The Chicago Fire can’t wear that uniform, per se. They could wear something similar to it if Adidas was willing to design one. But since it’s a Puma incarnation, it’ll have to settle for being the best MLS jersey of all time.

    And do those Oregon helmets have flames on them? It certainly looks that way.

  • Broker75 | December 15, 2006 at 4:35 pm |

    Check out Team Canada’s jersey for the upcoming World Junior tournament being played in Sweden over the holidays pretty sweet.

  • Broker75 | December 15, 2006 at 4:36 pm |

    I couldn’t find any other country’s jerseys though. I guess Nike is sponsoring the uni’s for every team in the tournament.

  • Reyes | December 15, 2006 at 4:38 pm |

    You don’t see parkas on the sideline as much because of all the “advancements,” domed stadiums, heated benches, butane heaters, etc.

  • Reyes | December 15, 2006 at 4:42 pm |

    I was looking for a pic of the NFL’s heated benches and found this article. Enjoy!

  • Broker75 | December 15, 2006 at 4:45 pm |

    Here’s the official website to the tournament, appently the other country’s haven’t released their jerseys.

  • Craig | December 15, 2006 at 4:50 pm |

    [quote comment="30489"]I’ve always wondered why the Nationals weren’t called the Washington Senators.[/quote]

    It’s their proper name. Even when they were known as the “Senators” in the first half of the 20th century, their official name was Nationals (a reference to the old National League team that was unceremoniously disbanded when the NL contracted from 12 to 8 teams after the disastrous 1899 season). Since Washington is once again in the National League, it was completely fitting that they once more adopted their true name.

  • Teebz | December 15, 2006 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment="30510"]I couldn’t find any other country’s jerseys though. I guess Nike is sponsoring the uni’s for every team in the tournament.[/quote]

    Nike is the IIHF sponsor for the World Juniors.

    Canada had those last year, except without the goofy side stripe. They are form-fitting. The problem? That material used to make the jersey is as close to cheap, flimsy polyester as one can get. And it’s like spandex: very elastic-y.

    They look good, but they’re brutal compared to the old Team Canada jerseys.

    I apologize now if the links aren’t closed. Somehow my cursor jumped all over my screen.

  • DCM | December 15, 2006 at 4:54 pm |

    Nice choice by the helmet winner!

  • Chad G | December 15, 2006 at 4:55 pm |

    [quote comment="30509"]Check out Team Canada’s jersey for the upcoming World Junior tournament being played in Sweden over the holidays pretty sweet.[/quote]

    Isn’t that the same jersey the big boys wore in the Torino Olympics?

  • Chad G | December 15, 2006 at 4:58 pm |

    [quote comment="30518"][quote comment="30509"]Check out Team Canada’s jersey for the upcoming World Junior tournament being played in Sweden over the holidays pretty sweet.[/quote]

    Isn’t that the same jersey the big boys wore in the Torino Olympics?[/quote]

    Here is a seller’s description

  • Teebz | December 15, 2006 at 5:09 pm |

    Make that the jersey supplier, not sponsor. Nike is the official licensed jersey supplier.

    Here’s from the 2006 Torino Olympics.

    Finland’s Antero Niittymaki
    Sweden’s Henrik Zetterberg
    America’s Angela Ruggiero
    Italy’s Michaela Maria Leitner
    Canada’s Rick Nash
    Slovakia’s Jan Lasak

  • DenverGregg | December 15, 2006 at 5:13 pm |

    [quote comment="30522"]Make that the jersey supplier, not sponsor. Nike is the official licensed jersey supplier.

    Here’s from the 2006 Torino Olympics.

    Finland’s Antero Niittymaki
    Sweden’s Henrik Zetterberg
    America’s Angela Ruggiero
    Italy’s Michaela Maria Leitner
    Canada’s Rick Nash
    Slovakia’s Jan Lasak[/quote]

    Thanks for the links. I had forgotten how they had “Finland” instead of “Suomi”. Kind of like if the USA were to wear “Estados Unidos”. (Great look otherwise.)

  • Teebz | December 15, 2006 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment="30524"][quote comment="30522"]
    Italy’s Michaela Maria Leitner
    Slovakia’s Jan Lasak[/quote]

    Thanks for the links. I had forgotten how they had “Finland” instead of “Suomi”. Kind of like if the USA were to wear “Estados Unidos”. (Great look otherwise.)[/quote]

    Notice the socks on both the Italian skater and the leg of the Slovakian defenceman. Vertical striping rather than horizontal.

    Personally, they look like they have shinpads on the outside.

  • Andy from KC | December 15, 2006 at 5:32 pm |

    [quote comment="30500"]here is a larger image of the duck helmet…
    notice:
    raised logo bumper guard
    the airbrushed silver flame
    (i had always thought that the flame effect was created by the paint used and the angle viewed: similar to the paint job used by cars that change from purple to green dependent on your angle)
    http://www.registerg...

    Do you have another pic of the Oregon helmet? I think someone threw up all over that one.

    Seriously, though, I’m on record as saying that white-on-white is generally a bad look for football teams (particularly my Chiefs), and I stand by it. However, I like the Ducks’ all-whites. They look like a completely different team.

  • Chuck Ryals | December 15, 2006 at 5:34 pm |

    [quote comment="30460"]Paul,

    While searching for a picture of Browns players in a parka I came across this unusual picture of astronaut Donald Thomas in a Cleveland Browns/NASA astronaut uni.

    Browns Space suit[/quote]

    So awesome! Football is a religion here in Ohio and this picture is just one reason why!

  • Giancarlo | December 15, 2006 at 6:01 pm |

    First of all, the Miami Dolphins wear aquamarine, not teal. I’ll keep pointing this out whenever necessary.

    Secondly, I hardly think the Steelers have the NFL’s best jerseys. They sport overly busy partial stripes on sleeves that don’t have the space for any stripes, and their numeral font is awful. What’s left? The steel logo is cool, but rather redundant on the jersey.

  • Craig | December 15, 2006 at 6:37 pm |

    [quote comment="30527"][quote comment="30460"]Paul,

    While searching for a picture of Browns players in a parka I came across this unusual picture of astronaut Donald Thomas in a Cleveland Browns/NASA astronaut uni.

    Browns Space suit[/quote]

    So awesome! Football is a religion here in Ohio and this picture is just one reason why![/quote]

    Really seems more like an effect than a cause.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | December 15, 2006 at 6:38 pm |

    [quote comment="30527"][quote comment="30460"]Paul,

    While searching for a picture of Browns players in a parka I came across this unusual picture of astronaut Donald Thomas in a Cleveland Browns/NASA astronaut uni.

    Browns Space suit[/quote]

    So awesome! Football is a religion here in Ohio and this picture is just one reason why![/quote]

    isnt the orange suit the standard issue land uniform for nasa astronauts? i think he just added a browns patch.

  • Brad | December 15, 2006 at 6:50 pm |

    [quote comment="30529"]First of all, the Miami Dolphins wear aquamarine, not teal. I’ll keep pointing this out whenever necessary.

    Secondly, I hardly think the Steelers have the NFL’s best jerseys. They sport overly busy partial stripes on sleeves that don’t have the space for any stripes, and their numeral font is awful. What’s left? The steel logo is cool, but rather redundant on the jersey.[/quote]
    WHAT?! They have the best color scheme, the best logo, and the font is classy, modern and clean. The stripes are cool too. They have stood the test of time as the image of the greatest franchise in sports.

  • J.Ponsetto | December 15, 2006 at 6:59 pm |

    Chicago hands down- has the best looking uniforms in sports. Boston is a distant second after changing the Pats uni and of course the yellow bruins jersey…yech…

    Cubs Top 5
    BHawks Number 1
    Bears Top 5
    Bulls Underrated Top 3
    WSox Top 10
    Sky Okay so theirs sux.

  • Vincent A. Cipollone | December 15, 2006 at 7:25 pm |

    I would like to start a petition similar to “Ditch the Black” but for the Marlins. “Eliminate the Orange” or something like that. How would I go about that?

  • bg | December 15, 2006 at 7:44 pm |

    [quote comment="30458"][quote comment="30416"]Can somebody get in touch with the Seahawks’ bigwigs and point out the amazing contrast between good uniforms and bad uniforms in last night’s game?[/quote]

    They both suck! The 9’ers current logo has too many ovals, the red is too burgundy and the drop shadow unnecessary! They need to go back to the 80’s versions…which I have heard rumors that Mike Nolan is trying to do![/quote]

    The Niners are trying to go back to the 80’s look? haven’t read that here in the Bay Area.

  • Giancarlo | December 15, 2006 at 8:12 pm |

    [quote comment="30533"][quote comment="30529"]First of all, the Miami Dolphins wear aquamarine, not teal. I’ll keep pointing this out whenever necessary.

    Secondly, I hardly think the Steelers have the NFL’s best jerseys. They sport overly busy partial stripes on sleeves that don’t have the space for any stripes, and their numeral font is awful. What’s left? The steel logo is cool, but rather redundant on the jersey.[/quote]

    WHAT?! They have the best color scheme, the best logo, and the font is classy, modern and clean. The stripes are cool too. They have stood the test of time as the image of the greatest franchise in sports.[/quote]

    Can anyone who’s not from Pittsburgh deny that there’s something clearly ridiculous about the sleeves on this Steeler? I admit that this was once a classic look, but the Steelers, like the Browns, Packers & others, have been screwed by modern jersey patterns. You just have to adapt. Pittsburgh might be better off returning to their yellow yoke look of the late ’60s.

    For what it’s worth I prefer the jerseys of the Raiders, Bears & Giants among others to those of the Steelers.

  • Giancarlo | December 15, 2006 at 8:14 pm |

    This Steeler.

  • Bill T. | December 15, 2006 at 8:27 pm |

    [quote comment="30544"]I would like to start a petition similar to “Ditch the Black” but for the Marlins. “Eliminate the Orange” or something like that. How would I go about that?[/quote]

    Is there a need? The Marlins have never had orange in their uniform color scheme. Just black, teal and silver.

  • Andrew | December 15, 2006 at 9:21 pm |

    [quote comment="30434"][quote comment="30347"]Another Chelsea High School uni update, because I can:

    The basketball team got new unis this year. Here’s another look. Those are the home whites; I haven’t yet seen the away blues (well, I assume they’re blue).

    Here’s a question: in the first one, an S is visible on the shorts. I assume that’s a manufacturer’s logo, but I don’t recognize it. Whose is it?[/quote]

    Those are manufactured by Speedline as shown here.[/quote]

    Am I correct in thinking that the second from left on the speedline page is yet another infraction on the Wisconsin “W”? Oh and by the way, Burrill-
    GO DREADNAUGHTS

  • Shane | December 15, 2006 at 11:10 pm |

    [quote comment="30535"]the yellow bruins jersey…yech…
    [/quote]

    Got rid of this season, went to a 1970’s era black sweater for the third. I just got one. =)

  • Craig | December 15, 2006 at 11:30 pm |

    [quote comment="30355"]D. Wade is in no way honoring adidas with that three-stripe wave in his hair; that is a common hair style for many players. He is sponsored by Converse, a subsidary of Nike, so that is in no way true.[/quote]
    If I’m not mistaken, didn’t Reebok buy Adidas last year???

  • Ben | December 16, 2006 at 12:52 am |

    Dudes, I’ve been championing this for years. The next fashion trend (not even sports fashion, but fashion in general) is going to be sports clothing that looks nothing like sports clothing. I wouldn’t be caught dead in any of the polos you see on NFL coaches these days but if the NFL or any other sport came out with polos as sharp as either of the ones Lamar Hunt is wearing, I’d buy in a second.

    This has other applications as well. Ever see a skinny kid wearing one of those black hoodies with an angry looking angel or other bizarre religious imagery? Turn that sucker red and white and put an haloed A somewhere on it and you’ve got an LA Angels of Anaheim shirt. Tell me Angelenos wouldn’t be buying that like crazy. Promote the apocalypse and your team at the same time.

  • Tako | December 16, 2006 at 2:39 am |

    [quote comment="30469"][quote comment="30465"][quote comment="30459"]
    Chicago’s probably best-dressed for a city with all four major pro sports (the Bears, White Sox, Black Hawks and Fire all at or near the top of their respective leagues).

    [/quote]

    Listing “all four major pro sports” and leaving out the NBA? Interesting. Don’t think the Bulls hurt Chicago’s chances, but I’m biased.[/quote]

    Agreed that the Bull have some very decent uniforms. But you can’t forgive them for these or these(you can barely see them in that picture, but those are red pinstripes, awful). Plus, those Fire jersey’s are ugly. If you are going to count those in the nice category then don’t forget to add the Revolution. Much better than those Fire jerseys and you gotta dig the two toned socks. Plus, I kind of hate those White Sox pin striped unis. And, last but not least, I don’t know how you can forgive the city of Chicago for this scene. That’s gotta doc them some style points.[/quote]

    I think the Bay Area should be included in this discussion for best outfitted city, even though it’s not technically a city. But c’mon, Giants A’s Niners Raiders all look sharp, the Sharks look way better than they used to when they broke into the league, and you can’t forget “the best basketball uniform ever,” aka the warriors throwbacks.

  • Teebz | December 16, 2006 at 3:09 am |

    [quote comment="30569"]
    If I’m not mistaken, didn’t Reebok buy Adidas last year???[/quote]

    Adidas bought Reebok.

  • Buckeye Mike | December 16, 2006 at 3:15 am |

    Don’t know if this was covered, it’s harder for me to check every day on the left coast, but along the seahawks mess up, the uni that aaron brooks wears for oakland has a black stripe on the arm like hasselbecks does, but I think he was the only one, look at pics rom the game in Cincy

  • DenverGregg | December 16, 2006 at 1:41 pm |

    [quote comment="30585"]
    I think the Bay Area should be included in this discussion for best outfitted city, even though it’s not technically a city. But c’mon, Giants A’s Niners Raiders all look sharp, the Sharks look way better than they used to when they broke into the league, and you can’t forget “the best basketball uniform ever,” aka the warriors throwbacks.[/quote]

    With the current Niners and Sharks looks, Bay Area is at least behind Chicago, Detroit, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Philly, NYC and Boston. Roughly tied with Dallas, Cleveland and Houston. Get the Niners to return to their 80’s look, move on up!

  • obliv326 | December 16, 2006 at 6:54 pm |

    kudos to pete for taking the indiana helmet, but i have to disagree on the unis. i absolutely LOVE the all reds. they were the first solid unis i ever saw, and rather than gasp in shock and horror at something different and recoil, i decided i liked the look. it was unique, and, at the time, it wasnt being done in the nfl, so it was a look strictly used in college. i have had a soft spot for solids ever since, and i really dont get why everyone is soo up in arms about them…i think its cool and a new look, and its not like the other styles are done away with. so i say keep them, wear them proudly, hoosiers.

  • Jack H. | December 16, 2006 at 10:59 pm |

    [quote comment="30395"][quote comment="30378"][quote comment="30371"][quote comment="30342"]Why in the world does the Marlins commemorative patch have so much orange in it? Not exactly a complementary accent to teal.[/quote]

    Haha – the Dolphins fans may disagree with you![/quote]
    This reminds me- is there any way there could be some kind of list to determine the best and worst looking professional sports cities in North America? All major sports franchises would be included and averaged into the city’s grade. For example, Detroit may get high marks for the Tigers and Red Wings, but may be brought down by the Lions and their black unis.

    This may be fairly time consuming, but I think it would be interesting stuff.[/quote]

    Not time consuming. Boston wins hands down. Alright fine. How about this one instead.[/quote]

    Man this reaminds me why the hell I hate Boston so much….

    Bull shit it’s all Detroit. Despite the Lions in black, their normal unis are very good. Plus we should get 1 million bonus points for this, canceling out any stupidity caused by the black hole. I mean, shit, U-M might as well be Detroit’s pro team.

  • Jim | December 17, 2006 at 8:00 pm |

    [quote comment="30335"]woo hoo! i’m up early enough for #1![/quote]

    I never understood this…who..besides yourself cares that you are first? That’s all you had to contribute to the discussion? Woo, I’m first?

    Now for something uni-related..

    With the upcoming change to the Toronto Maple Leafs logo..anyone other than me, think it will look more like their AHL affiliate they Marlies(sp?).

    -Jim

  • Ken | December 20, 2006 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment="30342"]Why in the world does the Marlins commemorative patch have so much orange in it? Not exactly a complementary accent to teal.[/quote]
    Like on the Dolphins’ unis?