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Uni Watch Book Club

As I recently mentioned in another post, a lot of our knowledge, if you can call it that, of early uniforms is based more on templates and illustrations than on photographs. Case in point: It’s one thing to see this depiction of the tattersall plaid pattern worn by 1916 Brooklyn Robins (they later became the Dodgers), but it’s something else again to see a photo of it — say, this one.

That photo comes from Baseball’s Golden Age: The Photographs of Charles M. Conlon (see link at right), an excellent book recently recommended to me by reader Matt Ciccone. It turns out to be a fertile ground for uni-watchery, as you can see in the following pics (my apologies for the moiré pattern on many of the photos — haven’t had that problem with other books, but it kept happening again and again with this one):

• After the Indians won the 1920 World Series, they wore “Worlds Champions” jerseys the following season, as seen here and here. (Note that this was grammatically incorrect — they should have included an apostrophe, as the 1906 Giants did.)

• Here’s one where the template gives almost no hint of just how majestic the real uniform was: Judging by this, you’d say that the 1938 Boston Bees (forerunners of today’s Atlanta Braves, don’tcha know) looked okay but hardly spectacular. But check out the lettering in this photo — beeYOOteeful! (As an aside, any idea who’s shown in that photo? I’ll provide the answer at the end of this entry.)

• I’m totally digging the superscript “T” used by the old St. Louis Browns.

• Even better: the caps worn by the 1910 Philadelphia Athletics. The stripes, the short brim, the just-so angle and profile — I’d wear that baby today.

• The book features several great Pirates jersey styles, including the lettered placket (1912), the “P P” collar (1914), and, in the background, the chest pocket (1911).

• Speaking of lettered plackets, check out the 1913 Brooklyn Superbas (another of the franchise’s pre-Dodgers names), whose team name lives on in Uni Watch design director Scott M. X. Turner‘s graphic design business, Superba Graphics.

• Brooklyn’s team was finally being called the Dodgers by the time of this 1925 photo. The black armband is in memory of team owner and stadium eponym Charles Ebbets, who had recently died. The chest patch, although difficult to decipher in this photo, reads “National League Golden Jubilee, 1876-1925,” and was worn by all NL teams that season — sometimes on the chest, sometimes on the sleeve.

• I’ve always loved the Cubs’ late-1930s road design, with the underlined insignia and the zipper front.

• Here’s eternal punchline Wally Pipp, doing the gum on the cap routine. And look — the Babe did it too!

• Pointy collar-o-rama on display here by the 1904 Giants.

• Would never have guessed in a jillion years that the Yankees ever wore a dugout jacket like the one modeled in this 1927 shot of Miller Huggins.

• Turns out that the sideways cap thing dates back at least to 1925. And in that same year, the Tigers’ mismatched cap and jersey logos were plain for all to see.

• The 1904 Cubs clearly had an insufficient hosiery budget.

As for that 1938 Boston Bees photo, the subject is none other than a young (well, 48-year-old) Casey Stengel, just cutting his managerial teeth.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Good article here on Ravens equipment manager Ed Carroll (with thanks to Matt Radebaugh). … Yesterday I asked why Jeff O’Neill wore an “18” necklace pendant. The answer comes from Steve Zolis, who writes: “It’s in memory of his late brother Don, who died in a car accident in 2005. Eighteen was the number Don wore as the captain of the Ontario Hockey League’s Peterborough Petes. While most players have their names and numbers pre-printed on the tops of their sticks to identify their personal curve pattern, Jeff’s sticks read ‘Donnie.’ ” Zolis adds that “What do NHLers write on their sticks?” might be a good Uni Watch research project, and I agree — feel free to send contributions this-a-way. … The NBA’s new ball, supposedly headed for the unemployment line, will be able to continue moonlighting in Japan (with thanks to Jeremy Brahm). … With Lamar Hunt’s death last night, expect the Chiefs to sport some sort of memorial this weekend. The bigger question is whether the Chiefs will update their uniforms now that Hunt — a traditionalist — is no longer around to hold the line.

 

161 comments to Uni Watch Book Club

  • Matt from the 'Ville | December 14, 2006 at 8:59 am |

    Wonderful Pics Paul.

    Am I number 1 today….:)

  • NickNH | December 14, 2006 at 9:01 am |

    Sidney Crosby has “Darryl 87” embroidered on his gloves. I know that his junior teammates started calling him that after a 10-point game for Rimouski.

    And it’s not just pros who get names on their sticks either. I’m pretty sure guys at BU have personalized sticks, probably based on BU’s equipment deals with Nike/Bauer (Unis) and Easton (sticks/gloves).

  • Original Jim | December 14, 2006 at 9:04 am |

    Paul, I have a game-used stick of Zdeno Chara’s, back when he played for the Lowell Lock Monsters of the AHL. There are a number of names written on the shaft and blade, but I haven’t been able to confirm if they’re the names of his children or other family members.

    At some point I will try to send you some pictures of it, maybe a “detective” out here in the interweb can shed some light onto them.

  • baude | December 14, 2006 at 9:10 am |

    let me be the first to bring up the name of the japanese basketball league mentioned in today’s blog…

  • Pat | December 14, 2006 at 9:11 am |

    Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.

    As a bit of a sidenote: My vintage base ball team is currently in the process of creating a new team to play by the rules of 1886. We will be known as the Boston Beaneaters as a tribute to the 1886 version of the current Braves. I can only hope that our uniforms will look as good as these. I hope to be able to post pictures as soon as our uniforms come in.

    As another sidenote: I am trying to recreate the Boston Beaneaters logo for our website, flyers, base ball cards, and other printed media but the only logo I can seem to find is found on the left breast of the home uniform from this picture. Anybody know of a different one? If that is the only one I was thinking of creating a new logo or emblem just to keep it a little more interesting, for myself at least. Anybody have any suggestions?

  • Kim | December 14, 2006 at 9:12 am |

    Also look for the MLS teams that are owned or were previously owned by Lamar Hunt to have something when their season starts.

    That whole league owes a huge debt to that man and his persistance to get the sport off the ground(again).

  • wooster, oh | December 14, 2006 at 9:17 am |

    [quote comment=”29816″]let me be the first to bring up the name of the japanese basketball league mentioned in today’s blog…[/quote]

    Damn you, baude!

  • Gary | December 14, 2006 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment=”29817″]
    As another sidenote: I am trying to recreate the Boston Beaneaters logo for our website, flyers, base ball cards, and other printed media but the only logo I can seem to find is found on the left breast of the home uniform from this picture. Anybody know of a different one? If that is the only one I was thinking of creating a new logo or emblem just to keep it a little more interesting, for myself at least. Anybody have any suggestions?[/quote]

    As far as Chris Creamer’s site is concerned, that seems to be the only one…

  • Jeff A | December 14, 2006 at 9:26 am |

    Adidas has come out with a line of team inspired shoes.

  • al | December 14, 2006 at 9:26 am |

    [quote comment=”29818″]Also look for the MLS teams that are owned or were previously owned by Lamar Hunt to have something when their season starts.

    That whole league owes a huge debt to that man and his persistance to get the sport off the ground(again).[/quote]

    that’s very true, Kim. I was beaten to the punch by Paul today. I’ve had this book (bought it at B&N for $5) for nearly 6 years. I was efforting a project of scanning and getting some words together for Paul on the book. Oh well, serves me right for trying to make it a surprise. This is an awesome book that sits on my coffee table, I highly recommend it to anyone that loves 1920’s baseball and to those that are curious, and if you’re on this site, chances are that’s YOU.

    Cheers.

  • justin | December 14, 2006 at 9:27 am |

    Based on uniforms alone, who wins the national championship game? I am going to give Florida the nod based on uniforms and logos alone.
    Buckeyes have the nice helmet reward stickers, but overall I think Florida has them beat. At any rate, it will be a game between great traditional uniforms.

  • Jeff A | December 14, 2006 at 9:28 am |

    Sorry, first time using links.

  • Jeff A | December 14, 2006 at 9:32 am |
  • The Ol Goaler | December 14, 2006 at 9:37 am |

    The best tribute to the late, great Lamar Hunt would be for the Chiefs to use these uniform combinations the rest of the season. (Hank Stram was the “designer” who instituted the red pants, worn during the Chiefs’ Super Bowl-winning 1969/70 season.) And never forget, it was Lamar Hunt who suggested the “NFL-AFL Championship Game” be called “The Super Bowl”!

  • redemske | December 14, 2006 at 9:42 am |

    I’d like to be the third person to mention that Japanese league’s name …

  • Mike Perozich | December 14, 2006 at 9:53 am |

    Paul,

    I think you may want to check this place out. It is a chance to play baseball with old time MLB’s, in turn of the century uni’s (sorry they are made out of polyester.) I’ve doen it before the field is made to resemble that of the one in field of dreams. Here is the web site to check it out.

    http://www.doubleday...

    Sorry I don’t know how to do the links.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 14, 2006 at 9:53 am |

    Hey Paul…no offense to our friend Matt, but I rocked out comment #61 yesterday “Article about the Raven’s Equipment Manager here.”

    I need to get my props where I can! haha

    Love the old time pics too…I think I just found a X-mas gift for someone…me!

  • Kim | December 14, 2006 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”29816″]let me be the first to bring up the name of the japanese basketball league mentioned in today’s blog…[/quote]

    With a name like that, I’m surprised that they haven’t fooled many American players into going over.

  • BtotheE | December 14, 2006 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”29828″]Based on uniforms alone, who wins the national championship game? I am going to give Florida the nod based on uniforms and logos alone.
    Buckeyes have the nice helmet reward stickers, but overall I think Florida has them beat. At any rate, it will be a game between great traditional uniforms.[/quote]
    I can’t disagree more about Florida’s uni’s. The helmet, is terrible, the font is terrible, but rest of the uni is ok, with the exception of the different sleeves with the gator(?) print and the do rags made from them. Their throwbacks this year were cool, but the the one orange shoulder and one blue shoulder from a year ago (?) can not be forgotten. Go Buckeyes, even though I miss some of the gray in your uni’s, but I love those helmet stickers.

  • DG Lewis | December 14, 2006 at 9:59 am |

    “With Lamar Hunt’s death last night, expect the Chiefs to sport some sort of memorial this weekend. The bigger question is whether the Chiefs will update their uniforms now that Hunt — a traditionalist — is no longer around to hold the line.”

    Wouldn’t the best memorial be to simply state that the Chiefs will never update their uniforms, in honor of Hunt?

  • Matt | December 14, 2006 at 10:01 am |

    [quote comment=”29818″]Also look for the MLS teams that are owned or were previously owned by Lamar Hunt to have something when their season starts.

    That whole league owes a huge debt to that man and his persistance to get the sport off the ground(again).[/quote]

    I could be wrong, but isn’t the MLS Championship called the Lamar Hunt Cup?

  • Ian K | December 14, 2006 at 10:04 am |

    [quote comment=”29841″][quote comment=”29828″]Based on uniforms alone, who wins the national championship game? I am going to give Florida the nod based on uniforms and logos alone.
    Buckeyes have the nice helmet reward stickers, but overall I think Florida has them beat. At any rate, it will be a game between great traditional uniforms.[/quote]
    I can’t disagree more about Florida’s uni’s. The helmet, is terrible, the font is terrible, but rest of the uni is ok, with the exception of the different sleeves with the gator(?) print and the do rags made from them. Their throwbacks this year were cool, but the the one orange shoulder and one blue shoulder from a year ago (?) can not be forgotten. Go Buckeyes, even though I miss some of the gray in your uni’s, but I love those helmet stickers.[/quote]

    I will also disagree with Florida having the superior jerseys. The color scheme is great – blue & orange is a good combination and not used enough. Red & silver are overused, but where is it better looking than on Ohio State? The silver helmets with the stripe look great too.

    The worst aspect of Florida’s unis are the helmets. Orange dome – blah. Orange looks better as the accent color. And the logo and script ‘Gators’? Don’t like that either. However, if Florida wore their throwbacks, like earlier in the season, I would have to vote for them.

  • Kim | December 14, 2006 at 10:12 am |

    [quote comment=”29843″][quote comment=”29818″]Also look for the MLS teams that are owned or were previously owned by Lamar Hunt to have something when their season starts.

    That whole league owes a huge debt to that man and his persistance to get the sport off the ground(again).[/quote]

    I could be wrong, but isn’t the MLS Championship called the Lamar Hunt Cup?[/quote]

    There is the Lamar Hunt US Open Cup. Which is a tournament that includes MLS, minor league, and amateur teams. Which a better tribute recognizing his contributions to all levels of soccer.

    The MLS Championship is MLS Cup. (somehow there’s no corporate sponsorship of that….)

  • Bill | December 14, 2006 at 10:18 am |

    Being a Denver Broncos lifer, I’m a Chiefs hater. But one thing I have always admired about the Chiefs’ is their traditional uniform. When nearly every other team in the league moves toward a modern style of uniform with stripes going every which way and logos that get more and more detailed every year, Lamar Hunt has kept the Chiefs in a traditional looking uni that can stand the test of time. They look good every week. If they want to honor Lamar Hunt, they’ll keep the traditional unis. If there’s one thing the NFL can use, it’s a little more respect to its tradition.

  • Joe | December 14, 2006 at 10:25 am |

    >>>>That photo comes from Baseball’s Golden Age: The Photographs of Charles M. Conlon (see link at right)………>>>>>

    OK, I’m going to be sorry but… what link at right are you refering to, Paul?

  • Broker75 | December 14, 2006 at 10:27 am |

    Man O man, Staal’s goal will be looked at when the networks look at the plays of the year, holy shi*, that beats a dunk anytime.
    I’m glad I got to see it live while drinking a Bud. :-D

  • ej | December 14, 2006 at 10:29 am |

    “• Even better: the caps worn by the 1910 Phillies. The stripes, the short brim, the just-so angle and profile — I’d wear that baby today.”

    I am 99% sure that the hat shown in this picture is that of the 1910 Philly Athletics. I actually purchased a replica of this hat at an A’s turn back the clock game in 2000.

  • Dave | December 14, 2006 at 10:31 am |

    Um, Paul, the Brooklyn Superbas are not the namesake of Superba Graphics. Superba Graphics is the namesake of the Brooklyn Superbas (they are named after the team). The Brooklyn Superbas are the eponym of Superba Graphics; they are the thing from which the namesake takes its name.

    I know, I know, this is a very anal and geeky complaint. But considering the attention to detail for which you and this blog are justifiably famous, I thought you’d appreciate the constructive criticism.

  • Mark Fimoff | December 14, 2006 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”29817″]Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.[/quote]

    “That guy” from the 1904 Cubs is Johnny Evers.

    By the way, the “1910 Phillies” picture noted by Uni-Watch from McCabe’s book is from the Phila. A’s.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 14, 2006 at 10:40 am |

    I was up in Philly the other night and I was checking out the statue of Steve Carlton they have outside of the ballpark, and I was very impressed with the stirrup detail the sculptor used. Kudos to him!

  • Tim | December 14, 2006 at 10:45 am |

    I like the traditional Chiefs unis as much as the next guy, but I don’t think a new design would hurt…they can always wear throwbacks.

  • steve | December 14, 2006 at 10:47 am |

    Growing up collecting hockey cards, I remember seeing something strange on a Kirk McLean card. He was making a kick save, and you were able to see the bottom of one of his skates, and it said “Weird”

    Unfortunately, this is the only picture I could find of it. And it’s tiny, so you can’t really see the writing. I will keep looking around for a bigger version.

  • Burrill | December 14, 2006 at 10:47 am |

    [quote comment=”29849″]If there’s one thing the NFL can use, it’s a little more respect to its tradition.[/quote]

    All major sports could use a little more respect for their traditions, but that seems to be a pretty low priority.

    Sorry. I get a little cynical about it sometimes.

  • todd krevanchi | December 14, 2006 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”29865″][quote comment=”29817″]Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.[/quote]

    “That guy” from the 1904 Cubs is Johnny Evers.[/quote]

    “that guy” only happens to be perhaps the most famous 2nd baseman in the history of baseball. if not that, then the most referred to.

  • Kim | December 14, 2006 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”29868″]I like the traditional Chiefs unis as much as the next guy, but I don’t think a new design would hurt…they can always wear throwbacks.[/quote]

    ……and the NFL marketing department checks in…..

  • Anthony Verna | December 14, 2006 at 10:55 am |

    It’s too bad that all of the statues around Citizens Bank Park really get the human body out of proportion!

    [quote comment=”29867″]I was up in Philly the other night and I was checking out the statue of Steve Carlton they have outside of the ballpark, and I was very impressed with the stirrup detail the sculptor used. Kudos to him![/quote]

  • Paul Lukas | December 14, 2006 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”29858″]“• Even better: the caps worn by the 1910 Phillies. The stripes, the short brim, the just-so angle and profile — I’d wear that baby today.”

    I am 99% sure that the hat shown in this picture is that of the 1910 Philly Athletics.[/quote]

    Right you are. Complete brain-lock on my part. I’ll correct the text right now.

  • ToasterPoodle | December 14, 2006 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”29841″][quote comment=”29828″]Based on uniforms alone, who wins the national championship game? I am going to give Florida the nod based on uniforms and logos alone.
    Buckeyes have the nice helmet reward stickers, but overall I think Florida has them beat. At any rate, it will be a game between great traditional uniforms.[/quote]
    I can’t disagree more about Florida’s uni’s. The helmet, is terrible, the font is terrible, but rest of the uni is ok, with the exception of the different sleeves with the gator(?) print and the do rags made from them. Their throwbacks this year were cool, but the the one orange shoulder and one blue shoulder from a year ago (?) can not be forgotten. Go Buckeyes, even though I miss some of the gray in your uni’s, but I love those helmet stickers.[/quote]
    Go ahead and give yourself a buckeye sticker for this post.

  • Pat | December 14, 2006 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”29874″][quote comment=”29865″][quote comment=”29817″]Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.[/quote]

    “That guy” from the 1904 Cubs is Johnny Evers.[/quote]

    “that guy” only happens to be perhaps the most famous 2nd baseman in the history of baseball. if not that, then the most referred to.[/quote]

    Sorry, not a huge Cubs fan. And, I haven’t seen all that many pictures of Johnny Evers in my life. Damn, would you know Bobby Doerr or Joe Cronin if you saw them? I would, but that’s because I follow the Red Sox.

  • Jacob Reed | December 14, 2006 at 11:05 am |

    God, I hate to do this as a Chiefs fan, but I agree with the Broncos fan. Chiefs fans revolted when the NFL mandated that we couldnt use “Rock and Roll Pt. 2” as our touchdown song due to Gary Glitter being arrested. So what happened? The Chiefs hires someone to record a new version, since it was a tradition. Anything out of the norm causes complete pandemonium in KC. A uniform change may bring on the apocalypse. It actually terrifies me.

  • Paul Lukas | December 14, 2006 at 11:06 am |

    [quote comment=”29863″]Um, Paul, the Brooklyn Superbas are not the namesake of Superba Graphics. Superba Graphics is the namesake of the Brooklyn Superbas (they are named after the team). The Brooklyn Superbas are the eponym of Superba Graphics; they are the thing from which the namesake takes its name.

    I know, I know, this is a very anal and geeky complaint. But considering the attention to detail for which you and this blog are justifiably famous, I thought you’d appreciate the constructive criticism.[/quote]

    If there’s one place where you don’t have to apologize for making geeky observations, this is it. Technically speaking, most dictionaries say that two people/things/etc. with the same name are both namesakes, regardless of which came first. But your point is well taken.

  • Brendan | December 14, 2006 at 11:19 am |

    I have been looking at the Cooperstown Collection for replica caps from the early 1900s but they all seem to be period designs slapped onto current hat styles. I know that my brother or I used to have a Giants cap modelled on the 1913 cap that was more like a beanie with a short bill. Am I wrong about this?
    http://www.dugout-me...

  • todd krevanchi | December 14, 2006 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”29881″][quote comment=”29874″][quote comment=”29865″][quote comment=”29817″]Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.[/quote]

    “That guy” from the 1904 Cubs is Johnny Evers.[/quote]

    “that guy” only happens to be perhaps the most famous 2nd baseman in the history of baseball. if not that, then the most referred to.[/quote]

    Sorry, not a huge Cubs fan. And, I haven’t seen all that many pictures of Johnny Evers in my life. Damn, would you know Bobby Doerr or Joe Cronin if you saw them? I would, but that’s because I follow the Red Sox.[/quote]

    actually, i didnt visually recognize evers, only the name… as the tinker to evers to chance DP combo. i would be able to pick out doerr, MAYBE cronin. i wanted to get a red sox #4 jersey a while back, so i did some research on cronin.

    does anyone know if they make this green bay hat anymore? id love one in a lids.com franchise…
    http://cache.gettyim...

  • jesse | December 14, 2006 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”29874″][quote comment=”29865″][quote comment=”29817″]Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.[/quote]

    “That guy” from the 1904 Cubs is Johnny Evers.[/quote]

    “that guy” only happens to be perhaps the most famous 2nd baseman in the history of baseball. if not that, then the most referred to.[/quote]

    Famous or not, that guy could use a snack.

  • baude | December 14, 2006 at 11:36 am |

    There was a goal cam shot of Kirk Mclean that was in that begining photos section of SI in 94 when he carried the Canucks in the finals. Can’t find the photo…

    Weird

  • dchis | December 14, 2006 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”29881″][quote comment=”29874″][quote comment=”29865″][quote comment=”29817″]Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.[/quote]

    “That guy” from the 1904 Cubs is Johnny Evers.[/quote]

    “that guy” only happens to be perhaps the most famous 2nd baseman in the history of baseball. if not that, then the most referred to.[/quote]

    Sorry, not a huge Cubs fan. And, I haven’t seen all that many pictures of Johnny Evers in my life. Damn, would you know Bobby Doerr or Joe Cronin if you saw them? I would, but that’s because I follow the Red Sox.[/quote]

    First not on Evers. He was one of the most famous second baseman to ever play baseball but was also overrated for what he was known for, his great double play combination Tinker-to-Evers-to-Chance. Evers averaged 40.78 errors per every 162 games for his career.

    Second, Pat, you follow the Sox? Thats awsome!! Where are you from?

  • dchis | December 14, 2006 at 11:48 am |

    Boy I need to proofread. grrrr

  • baude | December 14, 2006 at 11:51 am |

    Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.

  • Terry Mark | December 14, 2006 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”29868″]I like the traditional Chiefs unis as much as the next guy, but I don’t think a new design would hurt…they can always wear throwbacks.[/quote]

    I couldn’t disagree more. The Chiefs’ design endures because of its simplicity and little details such as the sock striping. I hope the uniforms remain as is.

    Would anyone suggest that the Yankees update their design and wear the pinstripes as “throwbacks”? Right …

  • Banker Bill | December 14, 2006 at 11:55 am |

    [quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.

  • Brian from Short Island | December 14, 2006 at 12:03 pm |

    Commendation to my History teacher, who picked out the name, team and era of the Casey Stengel picture as he was walking past my computer without me even asking for it.

    He says the hand on the front of the book is that of Walter Johnson, but qualifies the statement by saying “that would be an incredible ID if it were right.” Does anyone know?

  • Brian from Short Island | December 14, 2006 at 12:04 pm |

    He got the photographer as well…

  • todd krevanchi | December 14, 2006 at 12:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    i sure do! a great hockey game… i think every goal i ever scored on sega hockey was a one timer…
    however when it came to football, i was team super tecmo… i stayed away from madden…

  • Kenny | December 14, 2006 at 12:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”29892″][quote comment=”29874″][quote comment=”29865″][quote comment=”29817″]Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.[/quote]

    “That guy” from the 1904 Cubs is Johnny Evers.[/quote]

    “that guy” only happens to be perhaps the most famous 2nd baseman in the history of baseball. if not that, then the most referred to.[/quote]

    Famous or not, that guy could use a snack.[/quote]

    A snack? That man needs a damn 3 course meal

  • dchis | December 14, 2006 at 12:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    Yes, Banker Bill I remember the SEGA Genesis. It was the first gaming system that I had and that was the first game that I owned. You can get that game plus Madden NFL 95 with a plug and play system. I’ve been trying to find the photo on gaming sites but my work blocks game sites. Guess I’ll have to go get on the IT guy’s computer he gets anything as an administrator.

  • Roberto Alomar | December 14, 2006 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”29874″][quote comment=”29865″][quote comment=”29817″]Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.[/quote]

    “That guy” from the 1904 Cubs is Johnny Evers.[/quote]

    “that guy” only happens to be perhaps the most famous 2nd baseman in the history of baseball. if not that, then the most referred to.[/quote]

    I resent that.

  • Ed Findlay | December 14, 2006 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”29817″]Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.

    As a bit of a sidenote: My vintage base ball team is currently in the process of creating a new team to play by the rules of 1886. We will be known as the Boston Beaneaters as a tribute to the 1886 version of the current Braves. I can only hope that our uniforms will look as good as these. I hope to be able to post pictures as soon as our uniforms come in.

    As another sidenote: I am trying to recreate the Boston Beaneaters logo for our website, flyers, base ball cards, and other printed media but the only logo I can seem to find is found on the left breast of the home uniform from this picture. Anybody know of a different one? If that is the only one I was thinking of creating a new logo or emblem just to keep it a little more interesting, for myself at least. Anybody have any suggestions?[/quote]

    Around that time they wore home jerseys with laces up necks, wide collars, and BOSTON in red letters in the shape of an arc…nothing elaborate, just a basic uniform.

  • Teebz | December 14, 2006 at 12:30 pm |

    Thankfully, I still have my old Genesis hooked up. I loved the EA Sports NHL games, and took it upon myself to purchase each one to add to the collection. I mean, with NHL 95 looking like this, who could pass up such a priceless game?

  • Scott | December 14, 2006 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”29909″][quote comment=”29874″][quote comment=”29865″][quote comment=”29817″]Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.[/quote]

    “That guy” from the 1904 Cubs is Johnny Evers.[/quote]

    “that guy” only happens to be perhaps the most famous 2nd baseman in the history of baseball. if not that, then the most referred to.[/quote]

    I resent that.[/quote]

    Roberto, Not exactly the greatest picture to refer to. After all, the story behind that ejection was Alomar just made fun of a dead child.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 14, 2006 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”29912″]Thankfully, I still have my old Genesis hooked up. I loved the EA Sports NHL games, and took it upon myself to purchase each one to add to the collection. I mean, with NHL 95 looking like this, who could pass up such a priceless game?[/quote]

    And that is why I bought this!!! My Genesis went up, so I needed it!

  • Miguel | December 14, 2006 at 12:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”29850″]>>>>That photo comes from Baseball’s Golden Age: The Photographs of Charles M. Conlon (see link at right)………>>>>>

    OK, I’m going to be sorry but… what link at right are you refering to, Paul?[/quote]

    I believe he’s referring to the Amazon link

  • Paul Lukas | December 14, 2006 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”29903″]Commendation to my History teacher, who picked out the name, team and era of the Casey Stengel picture as he was walking past my computer without me even asking for it.

    He says the hand on the front of the book is that of Walter Johnson, but qualifies the statement by saying “that would be an incredible ID if it were right.” Does anyone know?[/quote]

    It’s not Johnson. It’s spitballer Ed Walsh, demonstrating his spitball grip, circa 1913.

  • Frank Mercogliano | December 14, 2006 at 12:50 pm |

    I not only remember SEGA Genesis, I have an emulator I downloaded to play NHL 95….I got it a few weeks ago, and I’m 5-2-1 as the Florida Panthers (I just dropped a 3-1 game to Ottawa…I should have switched to Mark Fitzpatrick earlier in the game).

    And I have Super Tecmo for it as well…

    Frank

  • Mark Fimoff | December 14, 2006 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”29885″]I have been looking at the Cooperstown Collection for replica caps from the early 1900s but they all seem to be period designs slapped onto current hat styles. I know that my brother or I used to have a Giants cap modelled on the 1913 cap that was more like a beanie with a short bill. Am I wrong about this?
    http://www.dugout-me...

    You are basically correct. You need to check out Cooperstown Ballcap Company at

    http://www.ballcap.c...

    They have what you want.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 14, 2006 at 12:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”29921″]I not only remember SEGA Genesis, I have an emulator I downloaded to play NHL 95….I got it a few weeks ago, and I’m 5-2-1 as the Florida Panthers (I just dropped a 3-1 game to Ottawa…I should have switched to Mark Fitzpatrick earlier in the game).

    And I have Super Tecmo for it as well…

    Frank[/quote]

    You can’t come on here and say you downloaded an emulator and not tell us where to get it!!!

  • Pat | December 14, 2006 at 1:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”29817″]Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.

    As a bit of a sidenote: My vintage base ball team is currently in the process of creating a new team to play by the rules of 1886. We will be known as the Boston Beaneaters as a tribute to the 1886 version of the current Braves. I can only hope that our uniforms will look as good as these. I hope to be able to post pictures as soon as our uniforms come in.

    As another sidenote: I am trying to recreate the Boston Beaneaters logo for our website, flyers, base ball cards, and other printed media but the only logo I can seem to find is found on the left breast of the home uniform from this picture. Anybody know of a different one? If that is the only one I was thinking of creating a new logo or emblem just to keep it a little more interesting, for myself at least. Anybody have any suggestions?[/quote]

    Following up on my logo creating experiment. I created a simple logo for the newest beaneaters. Since I don’t really think they would appreciate me doodling out a man eating beans at work (which is what I wanted to do originally, some fat guy with beans all over his face) I made a somewhat related logo. You can see it here. Let me know what you think and how I should change it.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | December 14, 2006 at 1:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”29927″][quote comment=”29817″]Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.

    As a bit of a sidenote: My vintage base ball team is currently in the process of creating a new team to play by the rules of 1886. We will be known as the Boston Beaneaters as a tribute to the 1886 version of the current Braves. I can only hope that our uniforms will look as good as these. I hope to be able to post pictures as soon as our uniforms come in.

    As another sidenote: I am trying to recreate the Boston Beaneaters logo for our website, flyers, base ball cards, and other printed media but the only logo I can seem to find is found on the left breast of the home uniform from this picture. Anybody know of a different one? If that is the only one I was thinking of creating a new logo or emblem just to keep it a little more interesting, for myself at least. Anybody have any suggestions?[/quote]

    Following up on my logo creating experiment. I created a simple logo for the newest beaneaters. Since I don’t really think they would appreciate me doodling out a man eating beans at work (which is what I wanted to do originally, some fat guy with beans all over his face) I made a somewhat related logo. You can see it here. Let me know what you think and how I should change it.[/quote]

    based on the contents of the spoon, your team name should be the boston refried-beaneaters.

  • Pat | December 14, 2006 at 1:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”29929″][quote comment=”29927″][quote comment=”29817″]Somebody needs to get that guy from the 1904 Cubs something to eat.

    As a bit of a sidenote: My vintage base ball team is currently in the process of creating a new team to play by the rules of 1886. We will be known as the Boston Beaneaters as a tribute to the 1886 version of the current Braves. I can only hope that our uniforms will look as good as these. I hope to be able to post pictures as soon as our uniforms come in.

    As another sidenote: I am trying to recreate the Boston Beaneaters logo for our website, flyers, base ball cards, and other printed media but the only logo I can seem to find is found on the left breast of the home uniform from this picture. Anybody know of a different one? If that is the only one I was thinking of creating a new logo or emblem just to keep it a little more interesting, for myself at least. Anybody have any suggestions?[/quote]

    Following up on my logo creating experiment. I created a simple logo for the newest beaneaters. Since I don’t really think they would appreciate me doodling out a man eating beans at work (which is what I wanted to do originally, some fat guy with beans all over his face) I made a somewhat related logo. You can see it here. Let me know what you think and how I should change it.[/quote]

    based on the contents of the spoon, your team name should be the boston refried-beaneaters.[/quote]

    yea, I’m working on the details of the beans. They haven’t been easy to work with though.

  • Jay Palmer | December 14, 2006 at 1:15 pm |

    Following up on my logo creating experiment. I created a simple logo for the newest beaneaters. Since I don’t really think they would appreciate me doodling out a man eating beans at work (which is what I wanted to do originally, some fat guy with beans all over his face) I made a somewhat related logo. You can see it here. Let me know what you think and how I should change it.

    I would add a purple drop shadow!!!

    Just trying to get Paul riled up. It looks great the way it is. Simple with a nice graphic attached. Don’t change a thing.

  • Andy from KC | December 14, 2006 at 1:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”29833″]The best tribute to the late, great Lamar Hunt would be for the Chiefs to use these uniform combinations the rest of the season. (Hank Stram was the “designer” who instituted the red pants, worn during the Chiefs’ Super Bowl-winning 1969/70 season.) And never forget, it was Lamar Hunt who suggested the “NFL-AFL Championship Game” be called “The Super Bowl”![/quote]

    Those are the unis the Chiefs have worn all year, except for the horrible, horrible fiasco that was Opening Day. Let us never speak of it again.

  • GoTerriers | December 14, 2006 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”29930″]

    Following up on my logo creating experiment. I created a simple logo for the newest beaneaters. Since I don’t really think they would appreciate me doodling out a man eating beans at work (which is what I wanted to do originally, some fat guy with beans all over his face) I made a somewhat related logo. You can see it here. Let me know what you think and how I should change it.[/quote]

    based on the contents of the spoon, your team name should be the boston refried-beaneaters.[/quote]

    yea, I’m working on the details of the beans. They haven’t been easy to work with though.[/quote]

    What about a beanpot (not a “Beanpot”, college hockey fans). Same message, without the problem of detailing beans on a spoon . . .

  • Pat | December 14, 2006 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”29933″][quote comment=”29930″]

    Following up on my logo creating experiment. I created a simple logo for the newest beaneaters. Since I don’t really think they would appreciate me doodling out a man eating beans at work (which is what I wanted to do originally, some fat guy with beans all over his face) I made a somewhat related logo. You can see it here. Let me know what you think and how I should change it.[/quote]

    based on the contents of the spoon, your team name should be the boston refried-beaneaters.[/quote]

    yea, I’m working on the details of the beans. They haven’t been easy to work with though.[/quote]

    What about a beanpot (not a “Beanpot”, college hockey fans). Same message, without the problem of detailing beans on a spoon . . .[/quote]

    That was another bunked plan. The bean pot covered kept coming out looking like a teapot or an urn. I haven’t ruled that out though, but I think I’ll have to make the beans in the pot to make it actually look like what I am trying to represent.

    I wanted it to look something like this but it never worked out well.

    I think the beans actually look alright now that I worked on them a little longer. Boy this is a productive use of my time at work.

  • Matthew S. | December 14, 2006 at 1:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    I was just about to point this out when I saw that you beat me to it. Remember Genesis? Hell I still play NHL 95 all the time. Probably one of the best hockey video games ever (after Blades of Steel for the original Nintendo). NHL 95 was also, I think, the game being played by Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau in the movie ‘Swingers’.

    Lamar Hunt will be missed not only for the great things he did for the NFL and the MLS, but also for his contributions to the city of Dallas and SMU. Mr. Hunt gave over $7.5 million to the university and attended almost every SMU home football game in Ford Stadium (which he helped finance). The sports world has lost a true giant and a great man.

  • moten21 | December 14, 2006 at 1:55 pm |

    Something has always bothered me about the Chiefs uniforms. Why are the colours on the jersey and pants yellow, red and white, yet on the helmet they are black, red, and white?

  • Beanpot=BU Invitational | December 14, 2006 at 2:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”29934″][quote comment=”29933″][quote comment=”29930″]

    Following up on my logo creating experiment. I created a simple logo for the newest beaneaters. Since I don’t really think they would appreciate me doodling out a man eating beans at work (which is what I wanted to do originally, some fat guy with beans all over his face) I made a somewhat related logo. You can see it here. Let me know what you think and how I should change it.[/quote]

    based on the contents of the spoon, your team name should be the boston refried-beaneaters.[/quote]

    yea, I’m working on the details of the beans. They haven’t been easy to work with though.[/quote]

    What about a beanpot (not a “Beanpot”, college hockey fans). Same message, without the problem of detailing beans on a spoon . . .[/quote]

    That was another bunked plan. The bean pot covered kept coming out looking like a teapot or an urn. I haven’t ruled that out though, but I think I’ll have to make the beans in the pot to make it actually look like what I am trying to represent.

    I wanted it to look something like this but it never worked out well.

    I think the beans actually look alright now that I worked on them a little longer. Boy this is a productive use of my time at work.[/quote]

    I think the first “O” in boston should be a face wih a wide open mouth.

  • John | December 14, 2006 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”29932″]Those are the unis the Chiefs have worn all year, except for the horrible, horrible fiasco that was Opening Day. Let us never speak of it again.[/quote]

    I still don’t understand the hatred for the white on white combo worn by KC. Sure, it was worn at home, but the white on white is a classic look for a lot of teams.

    I don’t like that they are wearing white at home, but I still like the look.

  • Pat | December 14, 2006 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote]I think the first “O” in boston should be a face wih a wide open mouth. [/quote]

    Liking that idea. I’ll see if I can get some time this weekend to drawing up an open mouth. But wouldn’t that then call for a hand holding the spoon and thus possibly making it a little too busy (what with the face and all?

  • Banker Bill | December 14, 2006 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”29906″][quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    i sure do! a great hockey game… i think every goal i ever scored on sega hockey was a one timer…
    however when it came to football, i was team super tecmo… i stayed away from madden…[/quote]

    WOW – Video game geeks like me!! All sports games all the time! I always got hockey games no matter what system I had – all the way back to “Ice Hockey” by Activision for the Atari 2600 – My oldest stepson recently broke my PS2 so I’m out of the loop for NHL games, but NHL 95 was the best. I think most of my goals were one timers too – I was bretty good at breakaways though.

    Teebz, dchis, krvanch – you guys have me all nostalgic!

  • Jim | December 14, 2006 at 2:24 pm |

    Anybody interested in Tecmo Super Bowl for the NES should go to this site. They have the game with this year’s rosters and classic rosters from years like 1970 (with correct helmet designs as well!!)

  • wooster, oh | December 14, 2006 at 2:25 pm |

    It’s 2:30 in the afternoon and bj-league is still HI-larious!!!!!!

  • Banker Bill | December 14, 2006 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”29944″]It’s 2:30 in the afternoon and bj-league is still HI-larious!!!!!![/quote]
    “The bj-league – where our quality of play sucks!”

    Thank you – you’re a wonderful audience…please try the veal.

  • justin | December 14, 2006 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”29851″]Man O man, Staal’s goal will be looked at when the networks look at the plays of the year, holy shi*, that beats a dunk anytime.
    I’m glad I got to see it live while drinking a Bud. :-D[/quote]

    If you want to see an awesome goal, check out this goal by Zach Hamill of the Everett Silvertips (WHL) during a shootout with the Seattle Thunderbirds. Movie (WMV) Clip

  • Shane | December 14, 2006 at 2:32 pm |

    Hey Paul, here’s a link to that old A’s hat, if you want to get one.

  • Brian Erni | December 14, 2006 at 2:32 pm |

    i love the idea of commemerating a world championship for the entire following season. maybe not to extent of the entire jersey, but atleast with a patch. i believe the last team to do so was the marlins in 2004 when they wore a world champions patch on their sleeve all season. the last two years, the red and white sox wore patches on their hats and jerseys (the red sox wore special gold outline around their letters and numbers) on opening day, but then dumped them after that. common, guys. a world series championship should be celebrated, or atleast acknowledged, for the reigning season.

  • Dave S | December 14, 2006 at 2:37 pm |

    The Gators have some of the classiest uniforms in college football especially considering they are a Nike school. Comparing them to Oregon’s and Miami’s, they’re awesome. The script helmet is one of the best in the nation. Yes those orange sleeves were horrendous and as a Gator fan, I apologize for them. And those undershirts are exactly that, undershirts. They can only be seen on some players and who cares if some players wear them on their heads, its not part of the uniform if its under the helmet.

  • Shaun | December 14, 2006 at 2:38 pm |

    Just googling “sega genesis emulators” should really get you to anything that you need. It takes some time to find a good site, it also takes time and searching to find the ROM’s (games) for the emulators.

    On a kinda related note, does anyone remember the old nintendo game “Blades of Steel”. I am unsure who the teams you could play were, but one was green on the screen, and one was purple. It looks like you were playing the ninja turtles vs the foot clan in hockey!

  • Kerry | December 14, 2006 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”29923″][quote comment=”29885″]I have been looking at the Cooperstown Collection for replica caps from the early 1900s but they all seem to be period designs slapped onto current hat styles. I know that my brother or I used to have a Giants cap modelled on the 1913 cap that was more like a beanie with a short bill. Am I wrong about this?
    http://www.dugout-me...

    You are basically correct. You need to check out Cooperstown Ballcap Company at

    http://www.ballcap.c...

    They have what you want.[/quote]
    Just curious, but has anyone actually purchased a hat from THIS SITE? I see many hats that I like, but would like to know if the hats look good inperson….the photoshop images don’t really appeal to me. I like to see the item I’m buying before I purchase!

  • Mark Fimoff | December 14, 2006 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”29952″][quote comment=”29923″][quote comment=”29885″]I have been looking at the Cooperstown Collection for replica caps from the early 1900s but they all seem to be period designs slapped onto current hat styles. I know that my brother or I used to have a Giants cap modelled on the 1913 cap that was more like a beanie with a short bill. Am I wrong about this?
    http://www.dugout-me...

    You are basically correct. You need to check out Cooperstown Ballcap Company at

    http://www.ballcap.c...

    They have what you want.[/quote]
    Just curious, but has anyone actually purchased a hat from THIS SITE? I see many hats that I like, but would like to know if the hats look good inperson….the photoshop images don’t really appeal to me. I like to see the item I’m buying before I purchase![/quote]

    Yes I have and yes they do.

    It is a good idea to do some research on your own as they can produce thousands of different combinations and they can make historical errors. My first cap from them was a 1910 Cubs road cap. It came with the wrong pinstripe pattern, which was obvious to me. I emailed them a 1910 photo of Frank Chance, and the 2nd time around they got it right (at no extra charge of course)

  • Jacob Reed | December 14, 2006 at 3:09 pm |

    The best tribute to the late, great Lamar Hunt would be for the Chiefs to use these uniform combinations the rest of the season. (Hank Stram was the “designer” who instituted the red pants, worn during the Chiefs’ Super Bowl-winning 1969/70 season.) And never forget, it was Lamar Hunt who suggested the “NFL-AFL Championship Game” be called “The Super Bowl”!
    Those are the unis the Chiefs have worn all year, except for the horrible, horrible fiasco that was Opening Day. Let us never speak of it again.

    Something has always bothered me about the Chiefs uniforms. Why are the colours on the jersey and pants yellow, red and white, yet on the helmet they are black, red, and white?

    1. the facemasks are gray and the shoes are black. not currently in use.

    2. the whites are the worst idea since hiring greg robinson.

    3. a yellow outline for the logo would not look good at all. i actually have a lapel pin with gold in place of the black. it disturbs me in my sleep. not a good idea to not have the black. see it here: http://www.kcchiefsp...

  • ken | December 14, 2006 at 3:16 pm |

    One quick comment on the names, numbers on player’s hockey sticks. Sometimes the number is a personal player grading of the stick. A #1 might be the “best” stick in the bunch, a #3 might have more flex. [Peter Bondra used to do this when he was with the CAPS]

  • Kenny | December 14, 2006 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”29941″][quote comment=”29906″][quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    i sure do! a great hockey game… i think every goal i ever scored on sega hockey was a one timer…
    however when it came to football, i was team super tecmo… i stayed away from madden…[/quote]

    WOW – Video game geeks like me!! All sports games all the time! I always got hockey games no matter what system I had – all the way back to “Ice Hockey” by Activision for the Atari 2600 – My oldest stepson recently broke my PS2 so I’m out of the loop for NHL games, but NHL 95 was the best. I think most of my goals were one timers too – I was bretty good at breakaways though.

    Teebz, dchis, krvanch – you guys have me all nostalgic![/quote]

    NHL 94 – breakaways, one timers, and don’t forget the wrap around from behind the net

    Tecmo Bowl was the shizzle, especially Christian Okoye!!!

    As good as the new games are, those were classics!!!

  • Kenny | December 14, 2006 at 3:17 pm |

    oops that was supposed to be NHL 95

  • Kim | December 14, 2006 at 3:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”29935″][quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    I was just about to point this out when I saw that you beat me to it. Remember Genesis? Hell I still play NHL 95 all the time. Probably one of the best hockey video games ever (after Blades of Steel for the original Nintendo). NHL 95 was also, I think, the game being played by Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau in the movie ‘Swingers’.

    Lamar Hunt will be missed not only for the great things he did for the NFL and the MLS, but also for his contributions to the city of Dallas and SMU. Mr. Hunt gave over $7.5 million to the university and attended almost every SMU home football game in Ford Stadium (which he helped finance). The sports world has lost a true giant and a great man.[/quote]

    Was it 95 or 96. I think in 96 they took the fighting out, and they complained about it in the movie……or was it 95 where they took the fighting out? And NHL94 was the original (fighting and injuries).

  • Nuk | December 14, 2006 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”29935″][quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    I was just about to point this out when I saw that you beat me to it. Remember Genesis? Hell I still play NHL 95 all the time. Probably one of the best hockey video games ever (after Blades of Steel for the original Nintendo). NHL 95 was also, I think, the game being played by Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau in the movie ‘Swingers’.

    [quote]

    I liked Game 6 too – Canucks won 4-1, and if it wasn’t for the 2 day break between Game 6 and 7 – and shoddy reffing (mutter, mutter)….and beaten like a rented mule? The goal went in off of Babych on a PP.

    They were playing NHLPA ’93 in Swingers – that was the one where they took out fighting but you could “make Gretzky bleed”.

    A good site for emaulators and files can be found here NHL94.com

    //Still have visions of Nathan Lafayette hitting the post in Game 7

  • Teebz | December 14, 2006 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”29947″]
    If you want to see an awesome goal, check out this goal by Zach Hamill of the Everett Silvertips (WHL) during a shootout with the Seattle Thunderbirds. Movie (WMV) Clip[/quote]

    You mean the Marek Malik goal?

  • Banker Bill | December 14, 2006 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”29963″][quote comment=”29935″][quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    I was just about to point this out when I saw that you beat me to it. Remember Genesis? Hell I still play NHL 95 all the time. Probably one of the best hockey video games ever (after Blades of Steel for the original Nintendo). NHL 95 was also, I think, the game being played by Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau in the movie ‘Swingers’.

    [quote]

    I liked Game 6 too – Canucks won 4-1, and if it wasn’t for the 2 day break between Game 6 and 7 – and shoddy reffing (mutter, mutter)….and beaten like a rented mule? The goal went in off of Babych on a PP.

    They were playing NHLPA ’93 in Swingers – that was the one where they took out fighting but you could “make Gretzky bleed”.

    A good site for emaulators and files can be found here NHL94.com

    //Still have visions of Nathan Lafayette hitting the post in Game 7[/quote]

    Got your goals confused – Larmer’s goal bounced in off of Babych. Kovalev was a breakaway deke – backhand to forehand roof job that knocked himself down and completely fooled McLean. I remember Lafayette hitting the post – I also remember Lafayette actually skating for the Rangers the following year.

  • Banker Bill | December 14, 2006 at 3:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”29963″][quote comment=”29935″][quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    I was just about to point this out when I saw that you beat me to it. Remember Genesis? Hell I still play NHL 95 all the time. Probably one of the best hockey video games ever (after Blades of Steel for the original Nintendo). NHL 95 was also, I think, the game being played by Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau in the movie ‘Swingers’.

    [quote]

    I liked Game 6 too – Canucks won 4-1, and if it wasn’t for the 2 day break between Game 6 and 7 – and shoddy reffing (mutter, mutter)….and beaten like a rented mule? The goal went in off of Babych on a PP.

    They were playing NHLPA ’93 in Swingers – that was the one where they took out fighting but you could “make Gretzky bleed”.

    A good site for emaulators and files can be found here NHL94.com

    //Still have visions of Nathan Lafayette hitting the post in Game 7[/quote]

    Oh my God – I was WRONG – that was game 5! I give myself 2 minutes with a 10 minute misconduct penalty. I guess that happens when you don’t eat lunch…

  • Banker Bill | December 14, 2006 at 3:36 pm |

    Someone has to close their tags.

  • justin | December 14, 2006 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”29964″][quote comment=”29947″]
    If you want to see an awesome goal, check out this goal by Zach Hamill of the Everett Silvertips (WHL) during a shootout with the Seattle Thunderbirds. Movie (WMV) Clip[/quote]

    You mean the Marek Malik goal?[/quote]

    Yeah, same idea, but keeping in the context of current events, the Hamill goal was last week…and besides it was a move to the other side of the net.

  • Matthew S. | December 14, 2006 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”29962″][quote comment=”29935″][quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    I was just about to point this out when I saw that you beat me to it. Remember Genesis? Hell I still play NHL 95 all the time. Probably one of the best hockey video games ever (after Blades of Steel for the original Nintendo). NHL 95 was also, I think, the game being played by Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau in the movie ‘Swingers’.

    Lamar Hunt will be missed not only for the great things he did for the NFL and the MLS, but also for his contributions to the city of Dallas and SMU. Mr. Hunt gave over $7.5 million to the university and attended almost every SMU home football game in Ford Stadium (which he helped finance). The sports world has lost a true giant and a great man.[/quote]

    Was it 95 or 96. I think in 96 they took the fighting out, and they complained about it in the movie……or was it 95 where they took the fighting out? And NHL94 was the original (fighting and injuries).[/quote]

    It was 95 when they took the fighting out. They brought fighting back for 96. In Swingers, they complain about how they took fighting out of the game ‘because I think kids were hitting each other or something’, so they must be playing 95 (even though the menu screen is a little different than the 95 I have).

  • Matthew S. | December 14, 2006 at 3:55 pm |

    Actually it’s the ‘Pause’ screen that’s different, not the menu screen.

  • shambells | December 14, 2006 at 3:57 pm |

    I would definitly recognize Joe Cronin. In either ’58 or ’59 he gave me a baseball at a old timers day at yankee stadium.

    And when joltin joe dimaggio batted they kept pitching to him for almost 5 minutes till he hit a home run.

    And Dave Sisler, Georges son, pitched very well for Boston that day. When he came out of the game he was applauded by most of the crowd.
    Can u imagine that happening today?

  • Brandon T. | December 14, 2006 at 3:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”29921″]I not only remember SEGA Genesis, I have an emulator I downloaded to play NHL 95….I got it a few weeks ago, and I’m 5-2-1 as the Florida Panthers (I just dropped a 3-1 game to Ottawa…I should have switched to Mark Fitzpatrick earlier in the game).

    And I have Super Tecmo for it as well…

    Frank[/quote]

    Bless you sir. I covet an emulator for NES & Tecmo Bowl more than anything, please show me where I can find it (brandon.e.travis@gmail.com)

    Thanks,

    BT

  • hofflalu | December 14, 2006 at 4:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”29842″]With Lamar Hunt’s death last night, expect the Chiefs to sport some sort of memorial this weekend. The bigger question is whether the Chiefs will update their uniforms now that Hunt — a traditionalist — is no longer around to hold the line.quote]

    I’d been under the impression that GM Carl Peterson was also quite the traditionalist, and that as long as he was there, the unis would stay as is. Also, since I thought I heard that Hunt’s son would take over ownership, you’d have to think he’d carry on at least some of the traditionalist legacy of his father.

  • Teebz | December 14, 2006 at 4:06 pm |

    I am writing a rather large piece on all the EA Sports NHL games. I’ll post it shortly.

    Paul or Ek… I am gonna have a pile of links in there. Please bear with me if it gets blocked. I’ll have them allow it as soon as I can.

  • Chad | December 14, 2006 at 4:12 pm |

    A UniWatch word of caution for this weekend…if you plan on watching the Division III championship game on one of the ESPNs, a word of purple caution is appropriate. Unfortunately for everybody, both teams are purple. The game is a rematch from last year’s title game, so it has that going for it, which is nice. Check out the bloodshed

  • al | December 14, 2006 at 4:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”29957″]The best tribute to the late, great Lamar Hunt would be for the Chiefs to use these uniform combinations the rest of the season. (Hank Stram was the “designer” who instituted the red pants, worn during the Chiefs’ Super Bowl-winning 1969/70 season.) And never forget, it was Lamar Hunt who suggested the “NFL-AFL Championship Game” be called “The Super Bowl”!
    Those are the unis the Chiefs have worn all year, except for the horrible, horrible fiasco that was Opening Day. Let us never speak of it again.

    Something has always bothered me about the Chiefs uniforms. Why are the colours on the jersey and pants yellow, red and white, yet on the helmet they are black, red, and white?

    1. the facemasks are gray and the shoes are black. not currently in use.

    2. the whites are the worst idea since hiring greg robinson.

    3. a yellow outline for the logo would not look good at all. i actually have a lapel pin with gold in place of the black. it disturbs me in my sleep. not a good idea to not have the black. see it here: http://www.kcchiefsp...

    JR- i was quite disappointed to see that they don’t carry legimate throwbacks stuff like Lenny Dawson, Podolak & my alltime fave: Otis!
    Why wouldn’t the franchise honor it’s greatest era?

  • ToasterPoodle | December 14, 2006 at 4:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”29939″][quote comment=”29932″]Those are the unis the Chiefs have worn all year, except for the horrible, horrible fiasco that was Opening Day. Let us never speak of it again.[/quote]

    I still don’t understand the hatred for the white on white combo worn by KC. Sure, it was worn at home, but the white on white is a classic look for a lot of teams.

    I don’t like that they are wearing white at home, but I still like the look.[/quote]
    The reason behind it was that it forced the opening day oponent, the Bengals, to wear black on a hot early Sept. day in KC.

  • ToasterPoodle | December 14, 2006 at 4:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”29957″]The best tribute to the late, great Lamar Hunt would be for the Chiefs to use these uniform combinations the rest of the season. (Hank Stram was the “designer” who instituted the red pants, worn during the Chiefs’ Super Bowl-winning 1969/70 season.) And never forget, it was Lamar Hunt who suggested the “NFL-AFL Championship Game” be called “The Super Bowl”!
    I dunno. Perhaps you should talk to someone about your night tares, because that gold outline looks great.
    Those are the unis the Chiefs have worn all year, except for the horrible, horrible fiasco that was Opening Day. Let us never speak of it again.

    Something has always bothered me about the Chiefs uniforms. Why are the colours on the jersey and pants yellow, red and white, yet on the helmet they are black, red, and white?

    1. the facemasks are gray and the shoes are black. not currently in use.

    2. the whites are the worst idea since hiring greg robinson.

    3. a yellow outline for the logo would not look good at all. i actually have a lapel pin with gold in place of the black. it disturbs me in my sleep. not a good idea to not have the black. see it here: http://www.kcchiefsp...

  • WVU Tom | December 14, 2006 at 4:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”29973″][quote comment=”29921″]I not only remember SEGA Genesis, I have an emulator I downloaded to play NHL 95….I got it a few weeks ago, and I’m 5-2-1 as the Florida Panthers (I just dropped a 3-1 game to Ottawa…I should have switched to Mark Fitzpatrick earlier in the game).

    And I have Super Tecmo for it as well…

    Frank[/quote]

    Bless you sir. I covet an emulator for NES & Tecmo Bowl more than anything, please show me where I can find it (brandon.e.travis@gmail.com)

    Thanks,

    BT[/quote]

    A simple Google seach for “video game emulators” or something similar will definatley provide results. Usually it’s not the emulators for the consoles that are hard to find as much as the ROM files for the games. Technically, it’s illegal to distribute the ROM images, as their use is prohibited with out actually owning the game itself. Having said that, you can usually find what your looking for if you search long enough.

  • Richard | December 14, 2006 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”29970″][quote comment=”29962″][quote comment=”29935″][quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    I was just about to point this out when I saw that you beat me to it. Remember Genesis? Hell I still play NHL 95 all the time. Probably one of the best hockey video games ever (after Blades of Steel for the original Nintendo). NHL 95 was also, I think, the game being played by Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau in the movie ‘Swingers’.

    Lamar Hunt will be missed not only for the great things he did for the NFL and the MLS, but also for his contributions to the city of Dallas and SMU. Mr. Hunt gave over $7.5 million to the university and attended almost every SMU home football game in Ford Stadium (which he helped finance). The sports world has lost a true giant and a great man.[/quote]

    Was it 95 or 96. I think in 96 they took the fighting out, and they complained about it in the movie……or was it 95 where they took the fighting out? And NHL94 was the original (fighting and injuries).[/quote]

    It was 95 when they took the fighting out. They brought fighting back for 96. In Swingers, they complain about how they took fighting out of the game ‘because I think kids were hitting each other or something’, so they must be playing 95 (even though the menu screen is a little different than the 95 I have).[/quote]

    Yea – according to this following quote and the previous update, they had to be playing 95, especially since the movie came out in 96.

    Quoting “Swingers”:
    Trent: I wish they still had fights in this game so I could bitch-slap Wayne.
    Mike: What? They don’t have fighting anymore?
    Trent: Doesn’t that suck?
    Mike: Why’d they get rid of the fighting? It was the best part of the old version.
    Sue: I think kids were hittin’ each other or somethin’, man.
    Trent: Yeah but you know what, Mike? You can make their heads bleed in this one.
    Mike: Make somebody’s head bleed.
    Sue: No man, were in the playoffs.

  • Teebz | December 14, 2006 at 4:48 pm |

    Screw the review. It keeps timing out on me with the security code. Tying it twice was enough.

    I’ll let the Internet take over from here. Read me!

  • Teebz | December 14, 2006 at 4:49 pm |

    Maybe this site is punishing me for poor spelling?

    Trying… not tying. :o)

  • Souder | December 14, 2006 at 4:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”29970″][quote comment=”29962″][quote comment=”29935″][quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    I was just about to point this out when I saw that you beat me to it. Remember Genesis? Hell I still play NHL 95 all the time. Probably one of the best hockey video games ever (after Blades of Steel for the original Nintendo). NHL 95 was also, I think, the game being played by Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau in the movie ‘Swingers’.

    Lamar Hunt will be missed not only for the great things he did for the NFL and the MLS, but also for his contributions to the city of Dallas and SMU. Mr. Hunt gave over $7.5 million to the university and attended almost every SMU home football game in Ford Stadium (which he helped finance). The sports world has lost a true giant and a great man.[/quote]

    Was it 95 or 96. I think in 96 they took the fighting out, and they complained about it in the movie……or was it 95 where they took the fighting out? And NHL94 was the original (fighting and injuries).[/quote]

    It was 95 when they took the fighting out. They brought fighting back for 96. In Swingers, they complain about how they took fighting out of the game ‘because I think kids were hitting each other or something’, so they must be playing 95 (even though the menu screen is a little different than the 95 I have).[/quote]

    “I’m going to make Gretzky’s head bleed”
    “It’s not so much me as it is Roenick, the guy’s just really good.”

  • Teebz | December 14, 2006 at 4:54 pm |

    NHL Hockey, produced in 1991, is the original. I racked up 378 penalty minutes in one game! I’m all about old-skool hockey… hits, fights, and goals. :o)

  • justin | December 14, 2006 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”29984″][quote comment=”29970″][quote comment=”29962″][quote comment=”29935″][quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    I was just about to point this out when I saw that you beat me to it. Remember Genesis? Hell I still play NHL 95 all the time. Probably one of the best hockey video games ever (after Blades of Steel for the original Nintendo). NHL 95 was also, I think, the game being played by Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau in the movie ‘Swingers’.

    Lamar Hunt will be missed not only for the great things he did for the NFL and the MLS, but also for his contributions to the city of Dallas and SMU. Mr. Hunt gave over $7.5 million to the university and attended almost every SMU home football game in Ford Stadium (which he helped finance). The sports world has lost a true giant and a great man.[/quote]

    Was it 95 or 96. I think in 96 they took the fighting out, and they complained about it in the movie……or was it 95 where they took the fighting out? And NHL94 was the original (fighting and injuries).[/quote]

    It was 95 when they took the fighting out. They brought fighting back for 96. In Swingers, they complain about how they took fighting out of the game ‘because I think kids were hitting each other or something’, so they must be playing 95 (even though the menu screen is a little different than the 95 I have).[/quote]

    Yea – according to this following quote and the previous update, they had to be playing 95, especially since the movie came out in 96.

    Quoting “Swingers”:
    Trent: I wish they still had fights in this game so I could bitch-slap Wayne.
    Mike: What? They don’t have fighting anymore?
    Trent: Doesn’t that suck?
    Mike: Why’d they get rid of the fighting? It was the best part of the old version.
    Sue: I think kids were hittin’ each other or somethin’, man.
    Trent: Yeah but you know what, Mike? You can make their heads bleed in this one.
    Mike: Make somebody’s head bleed.
    Sue: No man, were in the playoffs.[/quote]

    I’m 99% sure that they were playing NHLPA 93 in Swingers.

    Let’s keep in mind this was a movie. The movie came out in 96 (filmed in 94-95?). I’m sure that since the no-fighting-in-the-game thing was a hot topic that it was written into the script, but that doesn’t mean that the affected version HAD to be the one they were actually playing. If my memory serves me right…it was the NHLPA 93 game that got the ball rolling to remove fighting from either the 94 or 95 version. But I’m almost positive it was 93 they were playing. I’m guessing that if you look at the pause screen…they refer to the teams only by the city. No logo or team names. It’s because they didn’t have the NHL license yet…just the players (hence nhlPA 93 vs. NHL 95)…

  • Jacob Reed | December 14, 2006 at 4:59 pm |

    JR- i was quite disappointed to see that they don’t carry legimate throwbacks stuff like Lenny Dawson, Podolak & my alltime fave: Otis!
    Why wouldn’t the franchise honor it’s greatest era?

    looks pretty dang close to me, save the helmet and lettering on the jersey…
    http://artfiles.art....

  • Jacob Reed | December 14, 2006 at 5:00 pm |

    Those are the unis the Chiefs have worn all year, except for the horrible, horrible fiasco that was Opening Day. Let us never speak of it again.

    I still don’t understand the hatred for the white on white combo worn by KC. Sure, it was worn at home, but the white on white is a classic look for a lot of teams.

    I don’t like that they are wearing white at home, but I still like the look.

    The reason behind it was that it forced the opening day oponent, the Bengals, to wear black on a hot early Sept. day in KC.

    they could have worn red pants. its no excuse.

  • Teebz | December 14, 2006 at 5:14 pm |

    NHLPA 93 was called as such because EA Sports wasn’t the multi-million dollar wing of Electronic Arts it is today. They only had enough money to buy one license, and they chose the NHLPA license because no one had ever done that before.

    NHLPA 93 also had fighting, but it was considerably toned down from the original NHL Hockey where it seemed that every hit resulted in a fight.

    NHLPA also had blood in it. And Jeremy Roenick was one of the highest rated players in NHLPA 93.

  • Matthew S. | December 14, 2006 at 5:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”29991″][quote comment=”29984″][quote comment=”29970″][quote comment=”29962″][quote comment=”29935″][quote comment=”29902″][quote comment=”29900″]Here is the kirk mclean “weird” photo, but its low-res. You can see something on his right skate.[/quote]

    That photo shows McLean getting beat like a rented mule by a very young Alexei Kovalev in Game 6 of the 1994 Stanley Cup Finals. As a Ranger Fan, I LOVE that picture. EA sports actually used it as the cover photo for NHL 95, back when I had (does anyone remember) SEGA Genesis.[/quote]

    I was just about to point this out when I saw that you beat me to it. Remember Genesis? Hell I still play NHL 95 all the time. Probably one of the best hockey video games ever (after Blades of Steel for the original Nintendo). NHL 95 was also, I think, the game being played by Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau in the movie ‘Swingers’.

    Lamar Hunt will be missed not only for the great things he did for the NFL and the MLS, but also for his contributions to the city of Dallas and SMU. Mr. Hunt gave over $7.5 million to the university and attended almost every SMU home football game in Ford Stadium (which he helped finance). The sports world has lost a true giant and a great man.[/quote]

    Was it 95 or 96. I think in 96 they took the fighting out, and they complained about it in the movie……or was it 95 where they took the fighting out? And NHL94 was the original (fighting and injuries).[/quote]

    It was 95 when they took the fighting out. They brought fighting back for 96. In Swingers, they complain about how they took fighting out of the game ‘because I think kids were hitting each other or something’, so they must be playing 95 (even though the menu screen is a little different than the 95 I have).[/quote]

    Yea – according to this following quote and the previous update, they had to be playing 95, especially since the movie came out in 96.

    Quoting “Swingers”:
    Trent: I wish they still had fights in this game so I could bitch-slap Wayne.
    Mike: What? They don’t have fighting anymore?
    Trent: Doesn’t that suck?
    Mike: Why’d they get rid of the fighting? It was the best part of the old version.
    Sue: I think kids were hittin’ each other or somethin’, man.
    Trent: Yeah but you know what, Mike? You can make their heads bleed in this one.
    Mike: Make somebody’s head bleed.
    Sue: No man, were in the playoffs.[/quote]

    I’m 99% sure that they were playing NHLPA 93 in Swingers.

    Let’s keep in mind this was a movie. The movie came out in 96 (filmed in 94-95?). I’m sure that since the no-fighting-in-the-game thing was a hot topic that it was written into the script, but that doesn’t mean that the affected version HAD to be the one they were actually playing. If my memory serves me right…it was the NHLPA 93 game that got the ball rolling to remove fighting from either the 94 or 95 version. But I’m almost positive it was 93 they were playing. I’m guessing that if you look at the pause screen…they refer to the teams only by the city. No logo or team names. It’s because they didn’t have the NHL license yet…just the players (hence nhlPA 93 vs. NHL 95)…[/quote]

    That’s a good point about the licensing. In NHL 95, the home team’s logo can be seen in the middle of the center face off. In the game they play in Swingers, there’s nothing there. Other than that though and the different pause screen, the rest of the game looks almost exactly like 95 and the timing of filming works since NHL 95 came out in August of 1994. I guess it’s NHLPA 93 as a movie stand in for NHL 95?

    Sue: I took the Kings to the cup.
    Trent: Yeah against the computer and with the offsides turned off.
    Sue: They’re a finesse team.
    Trent: They’re a bitch team.

    Swingers is one of the more quotable movies from the past 10 years.

  • DRob | December 14, 2006 at 5:36 pm |

    Have the Packers ever worn this in game? Or the Chiefs this?

  • Andy from KC | December 14, 2006 at 5:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”29981″][quote comment=”29939″][quote comment=”29932″]Those are the unis the Chiefs have worn all year, except for the horrible, horrible fiasco that was Opening Day. Let us never speak of it again.[/quote]

    I still don’t understand the hatred for the white on white combo worn by KC. Sure, it was worn at home, but the white on white is a classic look for a lot of teams.

    I don’t like that they are wearing white at home, but I still like the look.[/quote]
    The reason behind it was that it forced the opening day oponent, the Bengals, to wear black on a hot early Sept. day in KC.[/quote]

    Yep, and it turned out to be a brilliant tactical move, since it rained freaking cats and dogs that day.

    Look, white on white might be fine for a lot of teams. Sometimes it saves us from some hideousness — *coughSeahawkscough* — but if you’re talking about the Kansas City Chiefs, there has GOT to be a significant amount of red in there. That’s just all there is to it.

  • Minna H | December 14, 2006 at 5:44 pm |

    Wow. Have I stepped into the Hockey Gaming Forum by mistake? I sure feel like a hockey rook reading you ol’ timers’ posts.

    Paul, I was drooling over the lettered placard. I think the vertical lettering is much snazzier than its horizontal counterpart. I would wear something with vertical lettering in a heartbeat.

    Burrill, you cannot be cynical as I am the Resident Cynic on this board, and I’m not sharing my crown.

    Teebz, if you want to write a long post, just save it and when the security code doesn’t work, paste it back in. I’ve done that several times myself.

    DRob, that black Kansas City jersey is sweet.

  • Minna H | December 14, 2006 at 5:50 pm |

    This guy has a couple aesthetic ideas for the NBA. Look at his first two bullet points. I’m not saying I agree—I’m just the messenger.

    John Stockton lives!

  • Ben | December 14, 2006 at 5:58 pm |

    post 116 and others are correct.

    They play NFLPA 93 but talk about it as if it is NHL 95

  • concealed78 | December 14, 2006 at 6:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”29952″][quote comment=”29923″][quote comment=”29885″]I have been looking at the Cooperstown Collection for replica caps from the early 1900s but they all seem to be period designs slapped onto current hat styles. I know that my brother or I used to have a Giants cap modelled on the 1913 cap that was more like a beanie with a short bill. Am I wrong about this?
    http://www.dugout-me...

    You are basically correct. You need to check out Cooperstown Ballcap Company at

    http://www.ballcap.c...

    They have what you want.[/quote]
    Just curious, but has anyone actually purchased a hat from THIS SITE? I see many hats that I like, but would like to know if the hats look good inperson….the photoshop images don’t really appeal to me. I like to see the item I’m buying before I purchase![/quote]

    Yes I have. About 8 years ago, I ordered the 1982-1986 home Chicago White Sox cap. Suffice to say, I was rather pissed. The white front panel wasn’t not white, but a light tan. The hat size was way too big, despite me measuring my head before I ordered, and the sweatband was paper thin & leather. Tho the most disappointing thing about it, was the logo itself. It’s completely wrong on the website, and that’s exactly how it came out on the hat, and to add insult to the process, it was extremely crooked & off-centered. I returned it and got my money back. And from the other real pictures I’ve seen, their modern caps are awful. I’d avoid them unless you need the really old stuff.

  • Burrill | December 14, 2006 at 6:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”30006″]Burrill, you cannot be cynical as I am the Resident Cynic on this board, and I’m not sharing my crown.[/quote]

    Minna, this whole college football playoff furor has me getting more cynical every day. Ugh.

    Can I be the Resident Cynic Intern?

  • Teebz | December 14, 2006 at 6:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”30006″]
    Teebz, if you want to write a long post, just save it and when the security code doesn’t work, paste it back in. I’ve done that several times myself.
    [/quote]

    It wasn’t all that long. It just was a pain to retype and refind all the links.

  • Jacob Reed | December 14, 2006 at 7:11 pm |

    Have the Packers ever worn this in game? Or the Chiefs this?

    no. they have never worn those. God willing, they never will.

  • Andrew | December 14, 2006 at 7:41 pm |

    I don’t know if it’s been pointed out already and I missed it, or not, but the underperforming Italian soccer team AS Roma is wearing fake pointed collars.
    http://www.goal.com/...

    I’ve been cheering for them for a couple of years now, and I can’t believe I’d never noticed it before.

  • Tom | December 14, 2006 at 7:43 pm |

    Interesting discussion here about college lacrosse equipment/uniform supplier conflicts. Go figure, Nike is involved.

  • Tako | December 14, 2006 at 7:45 pm |

    just a thought as i was watching hbo today, the giants’ red jerseys looked better on icebox and the gang as they beat al bundy’s cowboys than they do on eli and his merry men

  • Al | December 14, 2006 at 8:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”29990″]NHL Hockey, produced in 1991, is the original. I racked up 378 penalty minutes in one game! I’m all about old-skool hockey… hits, fights, and goals. :o)[/quote]

    LOL… who were you? Willi Plett or Stan Jonathon?

  • Al | December 14, 2006 at 8:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”29992″]JR- i was quite disappointed to see that they don’t carry legimate throwbacks stuff like Lenny Dawson, Podolak & my alltime fave: Otis!
    Why wouldn’t the franchise honor it’s greatest era?

    looks pretty dang close to me, save the helmet and lettering on the jersey…
    http://artfiles.art....

    Appears as if the number font is different. I seriously want one of those Otis jerseys.. or a Podolak 14.

  • Al | December 14, 2006 at 9:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”30029″]just a thought as i was watching hbo today, the giants’ red jerseys looked better on icebox and the gang as they beat al bundy’s cowboys than they do on eli and his merry men[/quote]

    Sir,

    I doff my sombrero in your general direction !!!!
    LOL.

    ‘al bundy’s cowboys’…. LOL

  • Minna H | December 14, 2006 at 9:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”30019″][quote comment=”30006″]
    Teebz, if you want to write a long post, just save it and when the security code doesn’t work, paste it back in. I’ve done that several times myself.
    [/quote]

    It wasn’t all that long. It just was a pain to retype and refind all the links.[/quote]

    I copy all my posts just in case. It has helped me more times than I care to count.

    Like right now. I had an ‘invalid’ security code, but I saved my post so I didn’t have to type it twice. Granted, it was one of the shortest posts I’ve ever written, but still.

  • Minna H | December 14, 2006 at 9:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”30012″][quote comment=”30006″]Burrill, you cannot be cynical as I am the Resident Cynic on this board, and I’m not sharing my crown.[/quote]

    Minna, this whole college football playoff furor has me getting more cynical every day. Ugh.

    Can I be the Resident Cynic Intern?[/quote]

    Hm. Given your situation, Burrill, I grudingly accept your application as long as you can make a mean cup of green tea. With honey. Scones would be nice, too, but not necessary. (White cheddar cheese and broccoli, to be precise).

    I find that ALL of sports makes me cynical some days….

  • Frank Mercogliano | December 14, 2006 at 9:17 pm |

    I got the emulator here and the ROMS here.

    Aaahhhhh…enjoy!

    Frank

  • Minna H | December 14, 2006 at 9:22 pm |

    Just read the second Troy Soos’ book, Murder at Ebbetts Field. I liked it better than the first, and there are still the little baseball details that are so enjoyable to read, Mickey Rawlings, playing for the Giants in 1914, is so real, I looked him up to see if he actually existed. Read this series for more old-timey baseball lore. Great characterization of Casey Stengel, too.

  • Kenny | December 14, 2006 at 9:47 pm |

    Yes, the bj-league has to be the worst name ever for a professional sports league. People laugh all the time when I explain that there are 2 basketball leagues in Japan-the longtime JBL and the bj-league. Kobe Bryant’s dad, Joe Bryant, is the head coach of the Tokyo Apache of the bj-league, and former Utah Jazz forward David Benoit plays for the Saitama Broncos, so they’ve been “blowing” up the bj-league for the 2 years the league has been in existence.

  • Jeff I | December 14, 2006 at 9:49 pm |

    The Bruins dressed two #18’s tonight.

    Mark Mowers and this dude: http://cache.boston....

  • Teebz | December 14, 2006 at 9:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”30044″][quote comment=”29990″]NHL Hockey, produced in 1991, is the original. I racked up 378 penalty minutes in one game! I’m all about old-skool hockey… hits, fights, and goals. :o)[/quote]

    LOL… who were you? Willi Plett or Stan Jonathon?[/quote]

    Neither actually. Although, I would have loved to have both to help. Maybe Tiger Williams too. I racked up that amazing stat against Philadelphia with Chicago. It was a bet between me and a couple of friends to see who could do the most damage. I won, but not by much. One guy racked up 354 minutes in a Winnipeg-Detroit game. :o)

    Like I said…a fight on almost every hit.

  • Teebz | December 14, 2006 at 10:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”30059″][quote comment=”30019″]
    It wasn’t all that long. It just was a pain to retype and refind all the links.[/quote]

    I copy all my posts just in case. It has helped me more times than I care to count.

    Like right now. I had an ‘invalid’ security code, but I saved my post so I didn’t have to type it twice. Granted, it was one of the shortest posts I’ve ever written, but still.[/quote]

    I find that I tend to cut corners at work. I know I should… I just don’t. :o)

  • Brian from Short Island | December 14, 2006 at 10:21 pm |

    I’d like some uni-borne acknowledgement of championships like exists in soccer. In Italy, you wear the scudetto (look on the green stripe, it’s there. Juventus are wearing the scudetto they won two years ago while celebrating the win last year. Ironically, both titles were stripped in the Calciopoli scandal, and Juve were relegated to Serie B. However, they had far more than 20 wins, so the two stars above the scudetto will be there when they’re promoted to Serie A again) (small shield with an italian flag on it) for an entire season after you win the league the year before, and 10 top-flight titles gets you a uni-borne star. In England, the champ wears a Premiership badge saying that they won the year before. The Champions League winner wears a special patch instead of the normal Champions League patch for the next year’s league. Gold accents on the logo patch, or something similarly subtle, would be cool.

  • Brian from Short Island | December 14, 2006 at 10:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”30026″]I don’t know if it’s been pointed out already and I missed it, or not, but the underperforming Italian soccer team AS Roma is wearing fake pointed collars.
    http://www.goal.com/...

    I’ve been cheering for them for a couple of years now, and I can’t believe I’d never noticed it before.[/quote]
    You probably didn’t notice it because the jerseys change every year.

    I think they’re not going for the pointed collars (see Juventus, Celtic away, Holland, etc. for that), but to rip off the template Nike was using two templates ago.

    Thank god Nike has gone away from templates!.

  • MikeR | December 14, 2006 at 10:50 pm |

    Paul,

    With your comment about the Chiefs holding the line with regards to their uni design, I’m curious to ask whether you have any inside info on possible changes. You seem to imply that there may have been discussions in the past about a uni change. Were you merely speculating or potentially forcasting???

  • Marcus | December 14, 2006 at 11:01 pm |

    Why do some players on the 49er’s have the style of jersey I see on the Oklahoma players, as well as most of the “Nike” college teams?

    Frank Gore

    Where there are some players like in Philly who have jerseys that do not even cover theier stomach? Personally I think the Shoosh is still making the SF stuff, then they put a Reebok “thing” on them. Or not?

    Oh and in New Orleans there is the chiche “Game not with the Lakers where neither team is in white”

    http://images.sports...

  • j exby | December 14, 2006 at 11:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”29858″]“• Even better: the caps worn by the 1910 Phillies. The stripes, the short brim, the just-so angle and profile — I’d wear that baby today.”

    I am 99% sure that the hat shown in this picture is that of the 1910 Philly Athletics. I actually purchased a replica of this hat at an A’s turn back the clock game in 2000.[/quote]

    yicko! why get a cheap replica of the 1910 Athletics when the heavy wool, old sewing machines and traditional style of old caps are totally available via:
    http://www.ballcap.c...
    !
    Worth every penny! I have the 1904 White Sox cap on now as I type. I’ve easily got another dozen Cooperstown caps in the closet…..Sox, American Giants… pure history.

  • j exby | December 14, 2006 at 11:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”30011″][quote comment=”29952″][quote comment=”29923″][quote comment=”29885″]I have been looking at the Cooperstown Collection for replica caps from the early 1900s but they all seem to be period designs slapped onto current hat styles. I know that my brother or I used to have a Giants cap modelled on the 1913 cap that was more like a beanie with a short bill. Am I wrong about this?
    http://www.dugout-me...

    You are basically correct. You need to check out Cooperstown Ballcap Company at

    http://www.ballcap.c...

    They have what you want.[/quote]
    Just curious, but has anyone actually purchased a hat from THIS SITE? I see many hats that I like, but would like to know if the hats look good inperson….the photoshop images don’t really appeal to me. I like to see the item I’m buying before I purchase![/quote]

    Yes I have. About 8 years ago, I ordered the 1982-1986 home Chicago White Sox cap. Suffice to say, I was rather pissed. The white front panel wasn’t not white, but a light tan. The hat size was way too big, despite me measuring my head before I ordered, and the sweatband was paper thin & leather. Tho the most disappointing thing about it, was the logo itself. It’s completely wrong on the website, and that’s exactly how it came out on the hat, and to add insult to the process, it was extremely crooked & off-centered. I returned it and got my money back. And from the other real pictures I’ve seen, their modern caps are awful. I’d avoid them unless you need the really old stuff.[/quote]

    I’ll second that recommendation to only have them make the “old” styles- they are not New Era and don’t have the modern templates accurate, or the equipment to do so.

    all of my Cooperstown caps are from 1950 or earlier, and are gems.
    Actually I love the leather sweatband! out west here it’s dry and not an issue. too sticky in humidity?
    As far as sizing- they can vary, BUT- they also offer FREE sizing corrections. I’ve sent mine back, sometimes twice- but in the end I have a ballcap that is truly unique, fits great and has historic style to it!

    If you want dead on New Era caps (american needle is terrible) then distantreplays.com or mickeysplace.com is worth a try.
    For New Era White Sox caps – very authentic 1950s/60s/70s/80s, call the folks at Grandstandsox.com. Their web site doesn’t do their store justice!

    Pale Hose again in 2007!

  • Original Jim | December 15, 2006 at 12:18 am |

    All the talk about video game hockey, and no one remembers this scene from Mallrats, where Rene (Shannen Doherty) is woken up by Banky (Jason Lee) playing NHL 93?

    R: What time is it ? 9:30.

    B: Man, go back to sleep.

    [ Sighs ]

    B: Christ.

    [ Game audience cheering ]

    R: What the hell are you doing ?

    B: Finishing my game.

    R: No, no, no. You promised me breakfast. Breakfast ?

    B: Breakfast, schmrekfest. Look at the score. I’m only in the middle of the second and I’m winning 12 to 2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene. Now, Hartford, the whale ? Hey, they only beat Vancouver once, maybe twice in a lifetime.

  • Original Jim | December 15, 2006 at 12:19 am |

    Sorry, I mean Brodie, not Banky.

    Damn this infernal lack of an edit button!

  • Paul Lukas | December 15, 2006 at 12:25 am |

    [quote comment=”30141″]Paul,

    With your comment about the Chiefs holding the line with regards to their uni design, I’m curious to ask whether you have any inside info on possible changes. You seem to imply that there may have been discussions in the past about a uni change. Were you merely speculating or potentially forcasting???[/quote]

    Just forecasting the inevitable. No inside info.

    Incidentally: For those of you who complain about the security code, you wouldn’t believe how much spam we get hit with. It’s all the same stuff you probably get in your email account: cheap drugs, sex aids, ponzi schemes, etc. A ton of it. And if not for the security code, it’d all end up in the Comments section. So while I understand that it’s a pain, believe me when I say it’s a necessary evil.

  • Marcus | December 15, 2006 at 12:53 am |

    Anyone see Reggie Miller’s socks from the basketball game?

    Stripe-o-rama!

  • Andy C | December 15, 2006 at 1:14 am |

    I am friends with one of the football managers for TCU, and he told me that TCU will be getting a new design for next season (from Nike of course who currently makes their unis). They will be the same color scheme (your favorite purple) and will be the same template like Wake Forest’s unis. The main difference is they are switching to tackle-twill (sewn) as oppossed to their current iron-on. Earlier this week, Nike sent TCU some unis to try on for players to get sizes and such. The manager told me he will give me a pic once he receives them.

  • Teebz | December 15, 2006 at 1:30 am |

    [quote comment=”30199″]All the talk about video game hockey, and no one remembers this scene from Mallrats, where Rene (Shannen Doherty) is woken up by Banky (Jason Lee) playing NHL 93?
    [/quote]

    He is not playing NHLPA 93. He is playing Sega’s All-Star Hockey. That’s like saying the EPL and MLS are the same game.

    Hockey on the Sega rules. So does Mallrats. “I should know. We can smell our own.”

  • Teebz | December 15, 2006 at 1:32 am |

    [quote comment=”30202″]
    Incidentally: For those of you who complain about the security code, you wouldn’t believe how much spam we get hit with. It’s all the same stuff you probably get in your email account: cheap drugs, sex aids, ponzi schemes, etc. A ton of it. And if not for the security code, it’d all end up in the Comments section. So while I understand that it’s a pain, believe me when I say it’s a necessary evil.[/quote]

    I’m not complaining. I prefer we don’t get spam-bombed. I was just whining about taking so long to formulate my posts. :o)

  • Minna H | December 15, 2006 at 1:54 am |

    [quote comment=”30209″][quote comment=”30199″]All the talk about video game hockey, and no one remembers this scene from Mallrats, where Rene (Shannen Doherty) is woken up by Banky (Jason Lee) playing NHL 93?
    [/quote]

    He is not playing NHLPA 93. He is playing Sega’s All-Star Hockey. That’s like saying the EPL and MLS are the same game.

    Hockey on the Sega rules. So does Mallrats. “I should know. We can smell our own.”[/quote]

    Teebz, oh hockey curator of greatness, I prostate myself before thee. Man. What don’t you know about hockey? I’ma see if I can stump you one of these days….

  • Ben | December 15, 2006 at 2:36 am |

    A great UniWatch investigation would be figuring out some of the symobology found on ice hockey goalie masks, as many goalies have wacky nicknames and many different characters, murals, etc. found on their cages. Most memorably Patrick Lalime, who has since fallen off the face of the earth, used to have Marvin the Martian wearing a Spartan uniform both on his mask here and here and very awesomely printed on the blade of his stick.

    *Notice he continued to use the Spartan themed Martian Man even after leaving the Senators

  • Tako | December 15, 2006 at 4:29 am |

    [quote comment=”30056″][quote comment=”30029″]just a thought as i was watching hbo today, the giants’ red jerseys looked better on icebox and the gang as they beat al bundy’s cowboys than they do on eli and his merry men[/quote]

    Sir,

    I doff my sombrero in your general direction !!!!
    LOL.

    ‘al bundy’s cowboys’…. LOL[/quote]

    i love that movie, and logo creep everywhere on the cowboys for the once great apparal giant, Apex. I loved that mid-90s Giants helmet too, way better than their current one

  • kuri | December 15, 2006 at 11:17 am |

    You can watch bj-league games on BJTV

  • Jeff G. | June 24, 2007 at 7:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”30207″]I am friends with one of the football managers for TCU, and he told me that TCU will be getting a new design for next season (from Nike of course who currently makes their unis). They will be the same color scheme (your favorite purple) and will be the same template like Wake Forest’s unis. The main difference is they are switching to tackle-twill (sewn) as oppossed to their current iron-on. Earlier this week, Nike sent TCU some unis to try on for players to get sizes and such. The manager told me he will give me a pic once he receives them.[/quote]
    any chance he has sent you a pic yet? I can’t wait to see the new unis!