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Job Description: Equipment Manager Babysitter

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As you may have seen in my ESPN column last Thursday, Bengals equipment manager Rob Recker had a few things to say about the difficulties of imposing uniform and equipment guidelines on millionaire athletes (including Chad Johnson, whose orange chinstrap was benched yesterday).

Recker told me a bunch of other stuff, but I didn’t have room for it in the column. Fortunately, there’s plenty of room for it right here, so here’s a bit more of what he had to say:

I’ve seen guys come in here with black chinstraps, and I just say, “Hey, they’re illegal.” It’s like the socks that are too low, it’s like the pants that are too high. Every week, during pregame, you see a bunch of guys with their socks pulled down, on purpose, just to draw attention. It’s all about drawing attention. And they are told to pull their socks up, tuck their shirts in, and do all those things they’re supposed to do so they don’t get fined.[…]

Everyone wants to be different. We used to have white shoes, but when Marvin [Lewis] came in, he said we’re switching to black shoes. Fine, no problem. Now I’ve got all these guys who want white shoes, or white and orange. It’s the same thing with the visors — everyone wants the dark-tinted visors, because it’s all about the look, and then on Friday I’m taking six or eight of ’em off and replacing ’em with the clear ones, because that’s what’s legal on the field. […]

I think the uniform [police] are pretty cool, and for the most part the NFL is cool. They’re not looking to be, y’know, assholes — they just want to keep the uniform code pretty consistent so it doesn’t get out of control.

Poor Recker. As if to prove his point, T.J. Houshmanzedah wore white cleats yesterday, instead of Cincy’s usual black. If you want to see what being an NFL equipment manager was like before the era of the modern showboating athlete, look here.

Lump of Coal: In case you missed it on Friday, I’m thinking of having a Uni Watch party here in Brooklyn this Saturday afternoon (figure around 3pm, give or take), but I realize people have shopping and other holiday-related obligations to deal with, so I’m trying to gauge how many people are interested. I received only a few positive responses to this idea when I first mentioned it last Friday, so I’ll just scrap the whole thing if I don’t get better feedback today and tomorrow. If you want in, please send a note to uniparty at earthlink dot net.

Helmet Giveaway Reminder: Tonight at 9pm is the deadline for entering for a chance to win a free non-autographed college helmet from our friends at Gridiron Memories. If you haven’t already done so, just send an e-mail to helmetraffle at earthlink dot net. One entry per person, but everyone who’s ordered Uni Watch temporary tattoos will automatically have their names put into the hat a second time. (To get in on this, PayPal $1 apiece for the first five tats, 50 cents apiece after that, with a five-tat minimum, to paul_lukas at earthlink dot net.) The winner will be announced tomorrow.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Check out these Girl Scout uniforms (featured last week in this eBay auction). … Stadium naming rights have reached a new level of absurdity. … Jason Halpin recently attended a Devils game and snapped this shot of backup goalie Scott Clemmensen wearing a cap with the wrong NHL logo. … Several NFL players are on notice for having worn unauthorized gloves (with thanks to Cork Gaines). … Want to create you own Bengals helmet? Turns out there’s actually a decal kit for that (great find by Dan Smith). … Soccer query from Dennis Abrams: “I was very surprised to see this when I was watching highlights. When Adelaide’s starting keeper was red-carded, the backup came in with a baseball-style cap on. I don’t know what kind of logo was on the front. Apparently he has done this before, but for all I know, he could do this every game. I’d like to know if this is common practice in soccer or if this is the Daniel Beltrame’s trademark.” … In light of Wisconsin’s aggressive pursuit of high schools appropriating the university’s “motion W” logo, this PDF file of logo-use guidelines is particularly interesting (with thanks to UW grad Brian Temke). … Florida’s football jerseys have looked like this this season, but they’ll drop the 100th-anniversary patch and go with this for the BCS title game. … Buried in last Friday’s Comments section: the coolest pole vaulting socks ever. … Found this cool jacket at a thrift store. Probably would’ve bought it anyway, what with the excellent breast pocket patch and all, but what sealed the deal was this great interior lining. … “I was just watching the movie Necessary Roughness,” writes Ethan Oster, “and I noticed that almost all the players for the Armadillos wear a facemask I’ve never seen before.” He’s referring to the mask being worn by two of the three players in this shot. Looks kinda like a Dungard 205, but with a bigger cage. Anyone know more about this design? … That’s quite an outfit being worn by the Canadian speed skaters (an uncharacteristically non-Asian contribution from Jeremy Brahm). … Radically divergent approaches to NFL hosiery on display here. … Speaking of which, was Cedric Griffin taking cues from Jane Fonda yesterday? … More hosiery follies: What the hell’s going on here? … Remember our discussion a while back of the Philly tag? Double-barrel example of it here. … Warrick Dunn usually gets attention for his necklace, but he also appears to have major belt-flappage issues. … Mike Nolan and Jack Del Rio both wore their suits again. … R.W. McQuarters is still wearing that SpongeBob Band-Aid (as previously seen here). … Michael Rich notes that Georgia Tech’s home nameplate typography is very different from what they wear on the road. “Sorry I couldn’t find a better example of the home jersey, but the difference is much more pronounced than the photo might suggest,” he writes. “Notice that on the road, the nameplate is so large it actually crosses into the blue trim, whereas there is clearly white between the name and the blue trim of the home jersey. I’ve seen this in multiple games, so it wasn’t just a one-game uni snafu or anything like that.” … That was one weird-ass loincloth that Rachid Drilzane was wearing on Saturday night. … I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: White boxing gloves are lame-o. … Kassim Ouma’s green gloves and green trunks, however, looked great. … Reprinted from last night’s Comments section: Jose Mesa, who matches his glove’s color to his team’s color (as seen here, here, here, here, here, and here), has just signed with the Tigers. Get ready for that orange glove when Detroit goes on the road. … I was looking again at that Chad Johnson photo from yesterday and noticed that two of the sideline guys are wearing “9” anklebands. Anyone know what that’s about?

 

231 comments to Job Description: Equipment Manager Babysitter

  • Mark McGinnis | December 11, 2006 at 9:22 am |

    Regarding the Adelaide goalkeeper, it isn’t that unusual for soccer goalkeepers to where a billed cap when they are looking into a bright sun. That seems like the it was a night game, so maybe he just is in the habit of wearing one. Since he is playing in summer, maybe he likes the sweat control aspect?
    Teams usually don’t bother creating a uniform cap for this purpose, keepers often wear a generic cap from their equipment maker. My question, why would any non-American where a baseball cap at all? Yet they usually do, rather than a cricket cap. To my eyes the latter have larger bills. Am I wrong about this?

  • Matt B | December 11, 2006 at 9:22 am |

    To follow up from yesterday:

    Don’t know of any comprehensive NBA floor design sites, is anything out there half as good as this?
    I believe Barcelona’s 2nd uni is traditionally loud. I don’t know why, perhaps to avoid the need for a third, as it’s tough to conceive of an opposing kit that might be mistaken for both a neon pastel and the blue/red stripes? Although this led to an ugly scene a few weeks ago versus Mallorca. Some consider the day-glo to be good luck because they wore it for their first European championship, which led to an amusing scene afterwards when they wore their traditional jersey for the celebratory photo while leaving their contrasting shorts and socks on. The choice of orange might be a shout-out to Holland, but that’s just a guess.

  • Dan from PC | December 11, 2006 at 9:24 am |

    a little uni watch procrastination always makes finals week more bearable

    in regards to the facemask in question from Necessary Roughness back when i played pee wee football, a few guys on my team sported one of those…its simply the same plastic material worn here by Lomas Brown in a different configuration

    hope that helps

  • Steve | December 11, 2006 at 9:26 am |

    Mismatched shoes and gloves, number 100 and a nickname on the jersey. It’s Adolfo Bautista, “Bofo”, from the Apertura chamions Chivas.

  • Richard | December 11, 2006 at 9:27 am |

    the anklebracelet guys look like the bubble guy and the photographer, so that might be a designation so that producers can identify their own crew on the sidelines, or something like that.

  • SaveFarris | December 11, 2006 at 9:27 am |

    Remember our discussion a while back of the Philly tag? Double-barrel example of it here.

    It’s actually a Triple example. Lito Shepard (#26) is out of focus on the right but his blue tag is as plain as day.

  • Boilermaker | December 11, 2006 at 9:28 am |

    During the Dallas, New Orleans game last night Dallas Safety #29 was wearing the wierdest facemask ever, sorry I couldn’t find a picture.

    A un uniwatch related request- I need a picture of Nate Robinson blocking Yao Ming.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 11, 2006 at 9:28 am |

    Those facemasks from Necessary Roughness were around for only a couple of years. I don’t have the details, but they are plastic and never really caught on.

  • Chris R. | December 11, 2006 at 9:30 am |

    Those “9” bands … maybe control room identifiers? With all the constant switching during a live broadcast, I’ve seen A/V guys (and have myself when working the camera) worn uni-type numbers correlating to the feed/channel I’m on.

    Can’t say for sure though…

  • Chris R. | December 11, 2006 at 9:34 am |

    [quote comment=”28158″]Those “9” bands … maybe control room identifiers? With all the constant switching during a live broadcast, I’ve seen A/V guys (and have myself when working the camera) worn uni-type numbers correlating to the feed/channel I’m on.

    Can’t say for sure though…[/quote]

    Apologies for my absolutely horrid grammar, by the way.

  • Joe Hilseberg | December 11, 2006 at 9:35 am |

    Ok..got the details about the facemask…

    Riddell KRA-LITE FACEMASK

    Half the weight; five times the strength. Engineered thermoplastic eliminates exposed metal. Kra-Lite® masks remove a half pound from a player’s helmet system. Will maintain shape under severest usage.

  • your sister's gay boyfriend | December 11, 2006 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”28148″]My question, why would any non-American where a baseball cap at all? Yet they usually do, rather than a cricket cap. To my eyes the latter have larger bills. Am I wrong about this?[/quote]Well, sporting goods makers generally don’t make cricket caps, but they pretty much all make baseball caps.

    And I don’t think cricket caps have larger bills – the bowls are smaller and sit higher (thus more likely to fall off), but the bills are about the same size, if not smaller.

    You don’t see goalies wearing caps that often because most top flight stadiums are big enough, or designed specifically to keep the late afternoon sun out.

  • Kevin | December 11, 2006 at 9:48 am |

    In that boxing photo with the loincloth Rachid Drilzane is feeling the Wrath of Khan.

    Khaaaaannnn!

    Okay now get back to work.

  • Miguel | December 11, 2006 at 9:49 am |

    [quote comment=”28156″]A un uniwatch related request- I need a picture of Nate Robinson blocking Yao Ming.[/quote]

    I’ve never been able to find a picture, but here’s a great clip.

  • Ryan | December 11, 2006 at 9:58 am |

    i agree with the opinions of the above, the 9 probably gives the producers some clue as to which camera and mic on field to get sounds from. if you’re looking at a replay, and can’t see the yardage that easily, its probably the fastest way to play an appropriate sound or get a close up. i’d imagine that the majority of the mic holders look somewhat similar, though i doubt they have to deal with uniform nazis like the players do.

  • wooster, oh | December 11, 2006 at 9:59 am |

    I think the ‘9 bands’ may be a type of media pass. Yesterday was the 9th home game for the Bengals this year (2 preseason and 7 regular season games).

  • Teebz | December 11, 2006 at 10:02 am |

    [quote comment=”28164″]In that boxing photo with the loincloth Rachid Drilzane is feeling the Wrath of Khan.

    Khaaaaannnn!

    Okay now get back to work.[/quote]

    That loincloth is similar to what Roman gladiators used to wear. Here’s an example. Russell Crowe wore a more suitable, less commercialized example in the movie Gladiator.

    Since he considers himself a warrior, perhaps a gladiator, Drilzane wanted to presumably look the part.

  • Teebz | December 11, 2006 at 10:07 am |

    While Drilzane’s outfit is peculiar, no one happened to mention the giant RBK on his opponent’s trunks? Does Reebok sponsor this guy?

  • Pantherfid | December 11, 2006 at 10:23 am |

    Oh well…so much for my hope that Florida would wear their awsome throwbacks for the BCS Title Game.

  • Jonathon | December 11, 2006 at 10:40 am |

    [quote comment=”28157″]Those facemasks from Necessary Roughness were around for only a couple of years. I don’t have the details, but they are plastic and never really caught on.[/quote]

    weren’t those facemasks popular in the now-defunct world league (now NFL-Europe)?

    http://www.nfleurope...

  • Brian | December 11, 2006 at 10:42 am |

    Does anyone has pictures or screen shots of the Dallas player #29’s facemask?

  • Jonathon | December 11, 2006 at 10:43 am |

    something tells me that the gators will still wear their “100th Anniversary” patches during the game – that pic looked like a replica jersey for fans to purchase; I don’t think a replica jersey with the anniversary patch is available to the public; therefore, the bowl patch has just been added to a replica jersey with the standard gator patch and sold to the public.

  • DJ | December 11, 2006 at 10:46 am |

    In response to the Devils goalie, I have a Flyers hat in the same style – the “NHL” on the shield runs from the top left to the lower right and is silver/gray. I believe I bought it last year around this time, and it was purchased on NHL.com – personally I love the hat, not a big deal to me that the shield isn’t correct.

  • Nat gal | December 11, 2006 at 10:50 am |

    If tinted visors are illegal in the NFL, how come LaDainian Tomlinson wears one? Does he just eat the fine every week? Is it really un-tinted and I have a really bad TV?

  • Andy (#11) | December 11, 2006 at 10:50 am |

    What’s the deal with Randy Moss hanging his gloves from his facemask after he was injured and sitting on the sideline yesterday? I think I saw another shot in a different game of a player who hung his gloves from his facemask?
    It looked funny.

  • Pat | December 11, 2006 at 10:51 am |

    [quote comment=”28167″]I think the ‘9 bands’ may be a type of media pass. Yesterday was the 9th home game for the Bengals this year (2 preseason and 7 regular season games).[/quote]

    Yea, that explanation would make sense seeing as how you can clearly see a Bengals “B” logo on the band as well, which means it was a team issued item.

  • Pat | December 11, 2006 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”28177″]If tinted visors are illegal in the NFL, how come LaDainian Tomlinson wears one? Does he just eat the fine every week? Is it really un-tinted and I have a really bad TV?[/quote]

    You can get a doctor’s permission to wear a tinted face mask if you have a certain type of vision problem, I can’t explain in full detail but I know it is legal with that permission.

  • Jim H | December 11, 2006 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”28149″]To follow up from yesterday:

    Don’t know of any comprehensive NBA floor design sites, is anything out there half as good as this?
    [/quote]

    I personally use to love the old Charlotte Hornets honeycomb lane design(no pics) and the Boston Garden old Celtics court.

  • Paul Lukas | December 11, 2006 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”28180″][quote comment=”28177″]If tinted visors are illegal in the NFL, how come LaDainian Tomlinson wears one? Does he just eat the fine every week? Is it really un-tinted and I have a really bad TV?[/quote]

    You can get a doctor’s permission to wear a tinted face mask if you have a certain type of vision problem, I can’t explain in full detail but I know it is legal with that permission.[/quote]

    Correct. Tomlinson has light-sensitivity issues — sunlight in his eyes can trigger a migraine. So he has permission to wear the tinted visor (as do a few other players).

  • Kerry | December 11, 2006 at 10:57 am |

    [quote comment=”28156″]During the Dallas, New Orleans game last night Dallas Safety #29 was wearing the wierdest facemask ever, sorry I couldn’t find a picture.

    A un uniwatch related request- I need a picture of Nate Robinson blocking Yao Ming.[/quote]
    I noticed that facemask as well. There was a weird arc that came up roughly 3 inches above the mouthguard. It looks as though it was meant to protect the player’s nose.

  • House | December 11, 2006 at 10:58 am |

    [quote comment=”28167″]I think the ‘9 bands’ may be a type of media pass. Yesterday was the 9th home game for the Bengals this year (2 preseason and 7 regular season games).[/quote]

    They are sideline passes that designate the game and usually what type of pass it is (i.e. photo, mics, video, etc.). I worked as a GA for a Top 25 DI football program and to roam the sidelines outside of the team box you had to have one.

  • dchis | December 11, 2006 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”28184″][quote comment=”28156″]During the Dallas, New Orleans game last night Dallas Safety #29 was wearing the wierdest facemask ever, sorry I couldn’t find a picture.

    A un uniwatch related request- I need a picture of Nate Robinson blocking Yao Ming.[/quote]
    I noticed that facemask as well. There was a weird arc that came up roughly 3 inches above the mouthguard. It looks as though it was meant to protect the player’s nose.[/quote]

    Haven’t been able to find the Cowboys player with the mask but here is a photo from the Chargers game with Lorenzo Neal #41 of the Chargers wearing the same style mask.

  • Steve | December 11, 2006 at 11:01 am |

    She won the 200m

  • Kerry | December 11, 2006 at 11:02 am |

    [quote comment=”28167″]I think the ‘9 bands’ may be a type of media pass. Yesterday was the 9th home game for the Bengals this year (2 preseason and 7 regular season games).[/quote]
    That’s my assumption too. At first, I thought it may have been for the television broadcast. However, the photographer on the left of the picture is using a still image camera…not a TV camera. So, he wouldn’t be included in the TV identification labels.

    I think it’s just a media pass.

  • drjwtexas | December 11, 2006 at 11:06 am |

    I don’t have a picture of Keith Davis (Cowboys #29) face mask, but I think it’s the same as LaVar Arrington.

    Dennis

  • dchis | December 11, 2006 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”28186″][quote comment=”28184″][quote comment=”28156″]During the Dallas, New Orleans game last night Dallas Safety #29 was wearing the wierdest facemask ever, sorry I couldn’t find a picture.

    A un uniwatch related request- I need a picture of Nate Robinson blocking Yao Ming.[/quote]
    I noticed that facemask as well. There was a weird arc that came up roughly 3 inches above the mouthguard. It looks as though it was meant to protect the player’s nose.[/quote]

    Haven’t been able to find the Cowboys player with the mask but here is a photo from the Chargers game with Lorenzo Neal #41 of the Chargers wearing the same style mask.[/quote]

    This photo shows a little of the mask of Keith Davis #29 from last night. From last week here is a really good photo of the mask.

  • Matt | December 11, 2006 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”28177″]If tinted visors are illegal in the NFL, how come LaDainian Tomlinson wears one? Does he just eat the fine every week? Is it really un-tinted and I have a really bad TV?[/quote]

    IIRC, you must have a note from a doctor saying you need one. LDT apparently gets migraines easily, so he wears one to help block out the sun.

  • UMD_Chris | December 11, 2006 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”28184″][quote comment=”28156″]During the Dallas, New Orleans game last night Dallas Safety #29 was wearing the wierdest facemask ever, sorry I couldn’t find a picture.

    A un uniwatch related request- I need a picture of Nate Robinson blocking Yao Ming.[/quote]
    I noticed that facemask as well. There was a weird arc that came up roughly 3 inches above the mouthguard. It looks as though it was meant to protect the player’s nose.[/quote]

    Sounds like the new Bulldog facemask from Schutt. LaVar Arrington sported that facemask this year, at least until his season was cut short a few weeks ago.
    http://www.schuttspo...

  • Burrill | December 11, 2006 at 11:10 am |

    [quote comment=”28184″]I noticed that facemask as well. There was a weird arc that came up roughly 3 inches above the mouthguard. It looks as though it was meant to protect the player’s nose.[/quote]

    Was it this facemask? Several players on my local high school’s team had it this year. It was new to me.

  • Pat | December 11, 2006 at 11:12 am |

    [quote comment=”28182″][quote comment=”28149″]To follow up from yesterday:

    Don’t know of any comprehensive NBA floor design sites, is anything out there half as good as this?
    [/quote]

    I personally use to love the old Charlotte Hornets honeycomb lane design(no pics) and the Boston Garden old Celtics court.[/quote]

    Come on. That’s a picture of the overly boring Fleet Center (pre-name change). This is the old Garden. Notice how the green painted areas are much lighter at the old Garden and Lucky was a two color logo in the middle (green and white) without the skin color or brown in his hat. But, I’ll agree that the Celtics parquet floor is legendary and the greatest and most recognizable playing surface in all of sports.

  • drjwtexas | December 11, 2006 at 11:12 am |

    Here another picture.

    Arrington

    Dennis

  • steve | December 11, 2006 at 11:15 am |

    http://www.geocities...

    that is not only a great pic of that goofy world league facemask but an example of one horrible uni.

  • NickNH | December 11, 2006 at 11:15 am |

    ZGoing back to yesterday’s discussion on the numerals with certain names. Last year it affected at least one NHL player.

    Flyers defenseman Freddy Meyer’s full name is Frederick Augustus Meyer IV (not a bad name for a mason’s son from a small town in New Hampshire). He signed his contract as Frederick Meyer IV and as a result, when one of my friends tried to customize a Flyers jersey with his name last year (we went to BU together and Freddy was a captain there), it couldn’t be done without the roman numerals, which he actually didn’t have on his jersey during games.

    Not sure if that’s been fixed now so that you can buy a personalized jersey with just MEYER on the back.

  • JimmyMac | December 11, 2006 at 11:16 am |

    http://www.ebbets.co...

    Joy, rapture, the Ebbets Field Flannel catolog arrived at my home this weekend. And while I love the internet, there’s a certain throwback joy in print to shopping for throwback garments as opposed to e-commerce shopping. :)

  • Jason | December 11, 2006 at 11:17 am |

    Possibly the worst college hoops unis out there right now. I saw them in person in Chicago and they’re just atrocious. It’s weird because the blues aren’t bad, and I really like the homes.

  • redemske | December 11, 2006 at 11:21 am |

    The armband is indeed a media pass. Had I rolled out of bed sooner, I would have said that. Sideline passes are generally arm or leg bands so they’re out of the way. Press box passes are on a lanyard, which wouldn’t work for identification if you already had a camera around your neck.

  • nico | December 11, 2006 at 11:22 am |

    It’s good to see that for the Club World Cup FIFA enforces the one sponsor per team rule, America usually looks like this (kinda like a racing car…) now looks like this, but only for this tournament. Some teams are really getting out of hand with branding on their kits, especially in Mexico and South America

  • GoMac | December 11, 2006 at 11:26 am |

    Haha..awesome Pole Vaulting socks..

    I used to wear pretty much an identical pair when I wrestled in High School..

    Shoulda seen my coaches face the first time I broke ’em out..

  • Dane | December 11, 2006 at 11:27 am |

    On December 7, Paul told us about the prototype electronic jerseys. If you want to have something like that – and you can fit into an XL or smaller (disqualifies me) – then shop here:

    http://www.thinkgeek...

  • junkland | December 11, 2006 at 11:31 am |

    speaking of weird facemasks, what about the Dallas defensive end that 5 or 6 horizontal bars and 4 or 5 vertical bars?

    It must be pretty hard to see.

  • tuffy | December 11, 2006 at 11:34 am |

    i don’t know much about the necessary roughness facemasks, but they look just like the ones i wore in highschool in 1993. about the time of the movie, right? so i’m thinking it was a trend at the time that just didn’t last.

  • Jim H | December 11, 2006 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”28205″]speaking of weird facemasks, what about the Dallas defensive end that 5 or 6 horizontal bars and 4 or 5 vertical bars?

    It must be pretty hard to see.[/quote]

    That was Chris Canty, he wears so many bars because he was in a bar fight and got hit in the face with a bottle.

  • Hogie | December 11, 2006 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”28200″]Possibly the worst college hoops unis out there right now. I saw them in person in Chicago and they’re just atrocious. It’s weird because the blues aren’t bad, and I really like the homes.[/quote]

    Ditch The Black!!!

  • Brandon T. | December 11, 2006 at 11:49 am |
  • Brandon T. | December 11, 2006 at 11:50 am |

    Must has inserted my link wrong, didn’t mean to strikethrough. Anyway, if you can’t read it, I’m questioning on why Ohio State is using a Wilson football instead of team issue Nike since they’re a Nike school.

    BT

  • Kyle O | December 11, 2006 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”28168″][quote comment=”28164″]In that boxing photo with the loincloth Rachid Drilzane is feeling the Wrath of Khan.

    Khaaaaannnn!

    Okay now get back to work.[/quote]

    That loincloth is similar to what Roman gladiators used to wear. Here’s an example. Russell Crowe wore a more suitable, less commercialized example in the movie Gladiator.

    Since he considers himself a warrior, perhaps a gladiator, Drilzane wanted to presumably look the part.[/quote]

    I can’t believe no one has mentioned this guy yet!

  • Jim H | December 11, 2006 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”28207″][quote comment=”28205″]speaking of weird facemasks, what about the Dallas defensive end that 5 or 6 horizontal bars and 4 or 5 vertical bars?

    It must be pretty hard to see.[/quote]

    That was Chris Canty, he wears so many bars because he was in a bar fight and got hit in the face with a bottle.[/quote]

    Can be seen in a bit in this photo and in this photo as well.

  • diz | December 11, 2006 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”28169″]While Drilzane’s outfit is peculiar, no one happened to mention the giant RBK on his opponent’s trunks? Does Reebok sponsor this guy?[/quote]

    Amir Khan’s from Bolton, which is pretty much Reebok Country. Pretty much everything from Bolton with a sporting connection gets plastered with it.

    It’s also why Bolton Wanderers stadium name is borderline acceptable

  • dchis | December 11, 2006 at 12:01 pm |

    I saw just a couple of good uni things from football yesterday. The first is that Reggie Bush was wearing not mismatched sleeves but mismatched armbands with a white one on the right and a black one on the left. Also, saw some highlights of the Bills Jets game and my wife, who doesn’t quite get what the big deal about all the uniform stuff is (she’s coming around), said that the Bills uniforms were gross, which they are, but then I asked her why and she said, “They look like a candy cane, not the regular good kind, but the gross kind that taste terrible.”

  • Paul Lukas | December 11, 2006 at 12:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”28217″]…my wife, who doesn’t quite get what the big deal about all the uniform stuff is (she’s coming around)…[/quote]

    All together, now: TIME TO GET A NEW WIFE!!!

  • Tim | December 11, 2006 at 12:11 pm |

    Maybe this has been brought up before but I do not understand the fascination with the Wisconsin “W”… It is a horrible University letter… I am a big fan of the classic blockier style lettering such as U of Washington

    (forgive the purple)

    Or even “W” in their primary logo… I am just not a big fan of the curved modern looking “W” if they want more than just the blocked lettering, I way go with their older “W” like on this:

  • Tim | December 11, 2006 at 12:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”28221″]Maybe this has been brought up before but I do not understand the fascination with the Wisconsin “W”… It is a horrible University letter… I am a big fan of the classic blockier style lettering such as U of Washington

    (forgive the purple)

    Or even “W” in their primary logo… I am just not a big fan of the curved modern looking “W” if they want more than just the blocked lettering, I way go with their older “W” like on this:

    [/quote]

    My bad…

  • Peter | December 11, 2006 at 12:18 pm |

    The 9 ankle bands are the media passes for photogs and other TV crew on the sidelines. The nine is the number of the home game. They don’t wear the around the neck style pass because that would get in the way of their equipment.

  • Andy (#11) | December 11, 2006 at 12:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”28178″]What’s the deal with Randy Moss hanging his gloves from his facemask after he was injured and sitting on the sideline yesterday?

    I think I saw another shot in a different game of a player who hung his gloves from his facemask?
    It looked funny.[/quote]

    I found a picture from last year.
    Where do you put your gloves if you don’t have pockets? You hang them from your facemask.

  • Jeff | December 11, 2006 at 12:28 pm |

    The Facemask was used in the early 90’s. If you remember most of the players in the World League (NFL Europe) wore them the first couple of years. They were light weight which was supposed to help by taking stress of the neck. However they cracked all the time. Soon…Schutt came out with Titanium masks that were light weight and much stronger. Plus a lot more easier on the eyes! Thus the only time you see these http://static.flickr... is in old pictures or in semi-pro leagues! With the exception of Lomas Brown who wore one the majority of his career!

  • Adam | December 11, 2006 at 12:29 pm |

    Italian goalkeeper Walter Zenga used to wear a baseball-style hat. Not sure if he wore it before playing in Major League Soccer for the Revolution, but I know he did it then.

    http://www.walterzen...

    Pretty sure I remember it bill-forward, though a quick search didn’t turn up evidence.

  • Kerry | December 11, 2006 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”28210″]Must has inserted my link wrong, didn’t mean to strikethrough. Anyway, if you can’t read it, I’m questioning on why Ohio State is using a Wilson football instead of team issue Nike since they’re a Nike school.

    BT[/quote]
    Looking through the rest of the pictures, Ohio State is using Wilson balls in all of the pictures.

    Well, why are they using Wilson balls you ask? Because they are THE OFFICIAL BALL OF THE NCAA. Look up in the upper right-hand corner of the screen…official ball of the NFL too.

  • Jill | December 11, 2006 at 12:36 pm |

    Mary Buckheit might be stepping on some toes with this Page 2 article. Good article though, I hate the pink jersey trend.

    When I saw the title I thought it was written by Minna.

  • nico | December 11, 2006 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”28229″]Italian goalkeeper Walter Zenga used to wear a baseball-style hat. Not sure if he wore it before playing in Major League Soccer for the Revolution, but I know he did it then.

    http://www.walterzen...

    Pretty sure I remember it bill-forward, though a quick search didn’t turn up evidence.[/quote]

    check this out

    He also wotre a cap while in Italy, sometimes at least.

  • WVU Tom | December 11, 2006 at 12:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”28219″][quote comment=”28217″]…my wife, who doesn’t quite get what the big deal about all the uniform stuff is (she’s coming around)…[/quote]

    All together, now: TIME TO GET A NEW WIFE!!![/quote]

    IMO, it doesn’t matter if it’s not a big deal to her, and long as she understands it’s a big deal to you!

    Usually, the uniform aspect is one area of sports where you would expect the average woman to take interest (I said average, but I’m not trying to stereotype)–but it seems that the uni-enthusiasts standards go way above that of just good ‘ol plain fashion sense.

  • Tim | December 11, 2006 at 12:40 pm |

    Brandon T,
    Is Wilson is the official football of the NCAA? If so, that would trump any deal with a uniform supplier. I’d think that uniform and football suppliers are 2 different things.

    The picture you posted was from a game @ Northwestern, here’s one from a home game.

    SO to me, it looks like Wilson is the ball supplier of D1….either that or its left up to each school and both NW and tOSU chose Wilson.

  • Tim | December 11, 2006 at 12:41 pm |

  • Tim | December 11, 2006 at 12:44 pm |

    sorry…different formatting than what i’m used to.

    http://www.geoclan.c...

  • WVU Tom | December 11, 2006 at 12:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”28231″]Mary Buckheit might be stepping on some toes with this Page 2 article. Good article though, I hate the pink jersey trend.

    When I saw the title I thought it was written by Minna.[/quote]

    The pink gear is the absolute worst! (I don’t think it steps on anyone’s toes, after all, it’s not game worn gear but fan merchandise).

    Hell even these would look better in black!

    Any female (or male?) wearing this crap doesn’t understand what it means to be a true fan–which is displaying your team colors (even if you think they are hideous).

  • Andy (#11) | December 11, 2006 at 12:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”28239″]
    Any female (or male?) wearing this crap doesn’t understand what it means to be a true fan–which is displaying your team colors (even if you think they are hideous).[/quote]

    Exactly!
    Even if your team color is black (with a little blue and orange here and there).

  • Banker Bill | December 11, 2006 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”28231″]Mary Buckheit might be stepping on some toes with this Page 2 article. Good article though, I hate the pink jersey trend.

    When I saw the title I thought it was written by Minna.[/quote]

    First person I though of too…Paul, you have a Page 2 affiliation – did you give this writer “permission” to vent on this topic – which she’s right on 100% by the way….

  • WVU Tom | December 11, 2006 at 12:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”28240″][quote comment=”28239″]
    Any female (or male?) wearing this crap doesn’t understand what it means to be a true fan–which is displaying your team colors (even if you think they are hideous).[/quote]

    Exactly!
    Even if your team color is black (with a little blue and orange here and there).[/quote]

    Well that’s a whole ‘nother issue there. The Mets actually wear that thing on the field!

    I’m not a Mets fan, nor am I against the usage of black (if it’s part of a teams traditional color scheme)–to be honest, I don’t think the Mets look that bad in black; but I do “get it” and support that “ditch the black” campaign.

  • Ken | December 11, 2006 at 1:03 pm |

    re: Necessary Roughness plastic facemasks.

    Those did come out in the late ’80’s. They were plastic and a much lighter weight than other facemasks. In the mid ’80’s there were still a lot of facemasks hanging around high school equipment rooms that were much thicker and heavier than the standard today. Those plastic masks were a lot lighter.

    The first time I saw one was on my 7th grade football team in 1987. We all thought they were going to be the “wave of the future,” but they fizzled.

    ken

  • James Craven | December 11, 2006 at 1:03 pm |

    Holy Craparoni! The Saints and Jags wore their Harry High SChool all-black uniforms and the Jets wore all-green. My eyes are still burinigating from that monochormatic stupidity.

  • WVU Tom | December 11, 2006 at 1:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”28239″][quote comment=”28231″]Mary Buckheit might be stepping on some toes with this Page 2 article. Good article though, I hate the pink jersey trend.

    When I saw the title I thought it was written by Minna.[/quote]

    The pink gear is the absolute worst! (I don’t think it steps on anyone’s toes, after all, it’s not game worn gear but fan merchandise).

    Hell even these would look better in black!

    Any female (or male?) wearing this crap doesn’t understand what it means to be a true fan–which is displaying your team colors (even if you think they are hideous).[/quote]

    And I completey missed this this first time through! Adding a mint/pastel green to a pink dodgers tee-shirt! Not only does this make me sick due to the whole pink thing, but it actually encorporates a SECOND non-team color!

  • Chad G | December 11, 2006 at 1:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”28210″]Must has inserted my link wrong, didn’t mean to strikethrough. Anyway, if you can’t read it, I’m questioning on why Ohio State is using a Wilson football instead of team issue Nike since they’re a Nike school.

    BT[/quote]

    Ok, here is the real deal. Most nike outfitted schools use nike balls (Penn State, USC, Florida, etc.) However Jim Tressel has an endorsment deal with with wilson for his team to use their balls. Loyd Carr of Michigan also has the same deal. Most addidas schools use wilson balls, but some use addidas balls now, UCLA did when they played USC. Go here and click the “advisory staff” button on the top left.

  • Jason | December 11, 2006 at 1:16 pm |

    1. Wilson footballs are also made in Ada, Ohio.

    B) Ohio State’s basketball home is officially called Value City Arena at the Jerome Schottenstein Center. The Schottenstein family owns Value City, so it’s not as bad as the Rams moneygrab.

    Third, in my opinion, this is the best Bengals combo.

  • WVU Tom | December 11, 2006 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”28248″]

    Third, in my opinion, this is the best Bengals combo.[/quote]

    Sock police!!!

    I don’t know–as I stated yesterday, when watching the bengals on TV I thought they looked like human creamsicles. The unis are so bad (IMO), that I don’t think it matters what color combo they wear. (But at lest they’re still only 2nd worst to the Bills).

  • Mark Doescher | December 11, 2006 at 1:27 pm |

    About the 9 bands

    Counting preseason, that was the 9th game for the bengals at home, therefore those were the fieldpasses given to media members that allows them to stand on the sidelines during the game. I have quite a few sticky bands like that from my days shooting Oklahoma Football all over the country. They are easier to see than a normanl credential hung around the neck.

  • Frank Mercogliano | December 11, 2006 at 1:28 pm |

    All the previous folks are correct on the leg band….it’s specifically a photographer/television media credential.

    As for the ball cap for the goalie, the one difference for them is you have to wear a soft-billed cap (almost like a painter’s cap). If the bill is hard, like an MLB cap, you can’t wear it. I wish I had a picture of me wearing my Garfield painter’s cap (with the flaps hanging down to back like an Arab shiekh) that I wore in goal when I was around 11 or 12 on a hot day in New York for a game…I did that a couple of times when it was hot and the sun was low.

  • al | December 11, 2006 at 1:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”28219″][quote comment=”28217″]…my wife, who doesn’t quite get what the big deal about all the uniform stuff is (she’s coming around)…[/quote]

    All together, now: TIME TO GET A NEW WIFE!!![/quote]
    You must be single. Getting rid is no easy task, Paul.

  • MAO | December 11, 2006 at 1:30 pm |

    UVA’s football stadium is called:

    Carl Smith Center, home of David A. Harrison III Field at Scott Stadium.

    Absurd. Used to just be Scott Stadium

  • Chad G | December 11, 2006 at 1:33 pm |

    UCLA with Adidas ball(Adidas School)

    USC with Nike ball(Nike School)

    Georgia Tech with Nike ball(Russel Athletic School)

    Notre Dame with Wilson Ball(Adidas School)

    Michigan with Wilson ball(Nike School)

    Northwestern is an Adidas school that uses a Wilson GST ball(the one with the black laces) if I find a pic i’ll post it

  • Nick | December 11, 2006 at 1:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”28172″][quote comment=”28157″]Those facemasks from Necessary Roughness were around for only a couple of years. I don’t have the details, but they are plastic and never really caught on.[/quote]

    weren’t those facemasks popular in the now-defunct world league (now NFL-Europe)?

    http://www.nfleurope...

    The Bengal’s Willie Anderson appears to wear the full-face style of those plastic facemasks.

  • Eric | December 11, 2006 at 1:45 pm |

    A hockey link…

    Check out the nice jerseys from Saturday’s game,a great vintage Canadiens white and the only acceptable Sabres sweater :

    Saturday night match-up

    Note that Briere’s sweater is a bit of a mess on the front with the newly added number on the right breast (what? you can’t figure out who is is from the back number or the arm numbers?) and the biggest captain’s “C” I’ve every seen.

    + plus marks for some of the sweetest striped socks in the league.

    – minus marks for that remaining ‘slug’ on the helmet (couldn’t we just salt it to kill it?).

  • Matthew S. | December 11, 2006 at 1:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”28258″]UCLA with Adidas ball(Adidas School)

    USC with Nike ball(Nike School)

    Georgia Tech with Nike ball(Russel Athletic School)

    Notre Dame with Wilson Ball(Adidas School)

    Michigan with Wilson ball(Nike School)

    Northwestern is an Adidas school that uses a Wilson GST ball(the one with the black laces) if I find a pic i’ll post it[/quote]

    Some of those pictures could be misleading though if they show kick off or punt returns. The reason being that if a Nike team faces an Adidas team, and the Nike team is kicking off, the kicker of the Nike team will use a Nike ball and so the Adidas team’s returner will have a Nike ball for those plays and those plays only.

  • Metsfan AZ | December 11, 2006 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”28258″]UCLA with Adidas ball(Adidas School)

    USC with Nike ball(Nike School)

    Georgia Tech with Nike ball(Russel Athletic School)

    Notre Dame with Wilson Ball(Adidas School)

    Michigan with Wilson ball(Nike School)

    Northwestern is an Adidas school that uses a Wilson GST ball(the one with the black laces) if I find a pic i’ll post it[/quote]
    What does GST stand for?

  • Drew | December 11, 2006 at 1:55 pm |

    I really hope that someone else saw this. I didn’t watch much of the game, but in last night’s Broncos-Chargers game (I believe in the 3rd quarter), some player was sitting on the training table on the sidelines, doing what appeared to be having the entire side seam of his uniform top sewn up. I’m not sure what the premise was, whether it was ripped open or if this is a new tightening technique, because it was only a brief shot.

  • Eric | December 11, 2006 at 2:01 pm |

    Need some help here.

    Lemaire scores on on some mystery pylons

    The French sign in the background would indicate that it is in Quebec (as would the home whites). The black plastic Lange skates as well as the helmeted players would suggest it was in the last-70’s (he also retired in 1979) and not 1971 as it says in the associated note.

    But I certainly don’t recall the Vancouver Canucks ever having a jersey like that.

  • Broker75 | December 11, 2006 at 2:02 pm |

    What does GST stand for?

    Good and Services Tax. ;-)

  • Chad G | December 11, 2006 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”28265″][quote comment=”28258″]UCLA with Adidas ball(Adidas School)

    USC with Nike ball(Nike School)

    Georgia Tech with Nike ball(Russel Athletic School)

    Notre Dame with Wilson Ball(Adidas School)

    Michigan with Wilson ball(Nike School)

    Northwestern is an Adidas school that uses a Wilson GST ball(the one with the black laces) if I find a pic i’ll post it[/quote]

    Some of those pictures could be misleading though if they show kick off or punt returns. The reason being that if a Nike team faces an Adidas team, and the Nike team is kicking off, the kicker of the Nike team will use a Nike ball and so the Adidas team’s returner will have a Nike ball for those plays and those plays only.[/quote]

    Trust me, that is not the case with these pictures, they are not misleading. I know these are the types of balls these teams use (I watch a lot of college football) I wasn’t basing my statements on the pictures, I knew this info before hand. The only one that I could see as being confusing would be the Michigan pic, but as I posted in comment #82, Loyd Carr has an endorsment with Wilson footballs, thats why Michigan uses them. (the UCLA, USC, and GT pics are of quaterbacks, so they are not kick returns, the notre dame one is of Darius Walker the running back)

  • Minna H | December 11, 2006 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”28231″]Mary Buckheit might be stepping on some toes with this Page 2 article. Good article though, I hate the pink jersey trend.

    When I saw the title I thought it was written by Minna.[/quote]

    Jill, thanks for thinking of me. I knew my brainwashing would take at some point. She says it so eloquently, doesn’t she? I am speechless (well, no, not really) at all the examples. I have always thought wearing pink meant ‘I care more about looking cute for the boiz’ than ‘I am a hardcore fan who is female.’ Even on this board, there have been guys who support the pink thing saying, ‘Well, the ladies like it’ in a condescending way.

    Like Mary B. said, if you can break out the creds that show you were a fan from way back when and you happen to love pink, fine. Otherwise, you ain’t a real fan.

    Here are the results for the poll on pink (you can see my results).

    pink stinks!

  • Broker75 | December 11, 2006 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”28270″]Need some help here.

    Lemaire scores on on some mystery pylons

    The French sign in the background would indicate that it is in Quebec (as would the home whites). The black plastic Lange skates as well as the helmeted players would suggest it was in the last-70’s (he also retired in 1979) and not 1971 as it says in the associated note.

    But I certainly don’t recall the Vancouver Canucks ever having a jersey like that.[/quote]
    I can’t make out which team that would be..It can’t be the Canucks, their original logo was the hockey stick in the rink, and their 70’s-80’s jersey was the yellow crazy ones, hmm.
    At first glance I thought it was the Colorado Rockies.

  • Minna H | December 11, 2006 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”28241″][quote comment=”28231″]Mary Buckheit might be stepping on some toes with this Page 2 article. Good article though, I hate the pink jersey trend.

    When I saw the title I thought it was written by Minna.[/quote]

    First person I though of too…Paul, you have a Page 2 affiliation – did you give this writer “permission” to vent on this topic – which she’s right on 100% by the way….[/quote]

    Banker Bill, nice to know that my disdain for pink has seeped into the collective conscience of this board. My work here is done.

  • Matthew S. | December 11, 2006 at 2:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”28272″][quote comment=”28265″][quote comment=”28258″]UCLA with Adidas ball(Adidas School)

    USC with Nike ball(Nike School)

    Georgia Tech with Nike ball(Russel Athletic School)

    Notre Dame with Wilson Ball(Adidas School)

    Michigan with Wilson ball(Nike School)

    Northwestern is an Adidas school that uses a Wilson GST ball(the one with the black laces) if I find a pic i’ll post it[/quote]

    Some of those pictures could be misleading though if they show kick off or punt returns. The reason being that if a Nike team faces an Adidas team, and the Nike team is kicking off, the kicker of the Nike team will use a Nike ball and so the Adidas team’s returner will have a Nike ball for those plays and those plays only.[/quote]

    Trust me, that is not the case with these pictures, they are not misleading. I know these are the types of balls these teams use (I watch a lot of college football) I wasn’t basing my statements on the pictures, I knew this info before hand. The only one that I could see as being confusing would be the Michigan pic, but as I posted in comment #82, Loyd Carr has an endorsment with Wilson footballs, thats why Michigan uses them. (the UCLA, USC, and GT pics are of quaterbacks, so they are not kick returns, the notre dame one is of Darius Walker the running back)[/quote]

    Didn’t mean to accuse you of being wrong, I just wanted to make sure that the ball’s that kickers and punters use were taken into account. You’ve clearly done your homework though Chad. Kudos.

  • dchis | December 11, 2006 at 2:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”28269″]I really hope that someone else saw this. I didn’t watch much of the game, but in last night’s Broncos-Chargers game (I believe in the 3rd quarter), some player was sitting on the training table on the sidelines, doing what appeared to be having the entire side seam of his uniform top sewn up. I’m not sure what the premise was, whether it was ripped open or if this is a new tightening technique, because it was only a brief shot.[/quote]

    I was watching and saw it. It was Shawne Merriman of the Chargers. They were messing with the strap on his pads that connects the front part of the chest pad to the back part of the shoulder pads. Not sure what happened to it as to why they needed to change it. Also, Merriman has some words shaved into the right side of his head.

  • Matthew S. | December 11, 2006 at 2:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”28275″][quote comment=”28241″][quote comment=”28231″]Mary Buckheit might be stepping on some toes with this Page 2 article. Good article though, I hate the pink jersey trend.

    When I saw the title I thought it was written by Minna.[/quote]

    First person I though of too…Paul, you have a Page 2 affiliation – did you give this writer “permission” to vent on this topic – which she’s right on 100% by the way….[/quote]

    Banker Bill, nice to know that my disdain for pink has seeped into the collective conscience of this board. My work here is done.[/quote]

    Minna, I think that anyone who has spent more than a week in the comments section knows of your disdain for pink and thus thought of you immediately when reading the Mary Buckheit article. And I’m with 100% on pink (well ok, I think pink hats are acceptable at times for girls), but we definitely differ on the use of the color black; e.g. I thought the Saints looked terrible yesterday.

  • Matt Bonnett | December 11, 2006 at 2:13 pm |

    Not sure about the soft peak rules for goalkeepers, most I’ve seen wear bog standard baseball caps.

    a quick google for example.

    Do think they miss a trick here as for sure the caps are only worn when facing into the sun but they never seem to have one ready and the club shops always sell enough different designs of cap.

    BTW cricket cap: even the cricketers are starting to wear baseball style caps

  • Thorold Blair | December 11, 2006 at 2:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”28177″]If tinted visors are illegal in the NFL, how come LaDainian Tomlinson wears one? Does he just eat the fine every week? Is it really un-tinted and I have a really bad TV?[/quote]

    Willis McGahee is another of the dark visor wearers, I’m assuming he has the permission to wear it. It’s tough to see, but the top tabs have the Bills logo.

  • Jared | December 11, 2006 at 2:21 pm |

    Regarding the Bengals helmet decals sold on e-bay: I read this interview Paul did last year with the guy who supplies helmet decals to many nfl teams, he said the Bengals helmets were painted…Makes you wonder about the authenticity of these decals.

  • chris | December 11, 2006 at 2:22 pm |

    the GST stands for: Genuinely S***tacular. Theyre like the cheap ones people buy at the supermarket.

  • nico | December 11, 2006 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”28270″]Need some help here.

    Lemaire scores on on some mystery pylons

    The French sign in the background would indicate that it is in Quebec (as would the home whites). The black plastic Lange skates as well as the helmeted players would suggest it was in the last-70’s (he also retired in 1979) and not 1971 as it says in the associated note.

    But I certainly don’t recall the Vancouver Canucks ever having a jersey like that.[/quote]

    the other team is Spartak Moscow although they are wearing a logo closer to the soccer Spartak Moscow but it’s the same club

  • chris | December 11, 2006 at 2:30 pm |

    MY former high school team wears these. Sleeves and all.

  • Minna H | December 11, 2006 at 2:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”28279″]

    Minna, I think that anyone who has spent more than a week in the comments section knows of your disdain for pink and thus thought of you immediately when reading the Mary Buckheit article. And I’m with 100% on pink (well ok, I think pink hats are acceptable at times for girls), but we definitely differ on the use of the color black; e.g. I thought the Saints looked terrible yesterday.[/quote]

    Matthew, my quest for world domintation is taking hold! We will agree to disagree about the caps. If you read my dissection of the Saints’ unis from yesterday, you will note that I was not terribly pleased with them, either, but not because they were black.

    On the Bengals’ decals kit—the guy is auctioning off a kit for other teams as well. Check out his other items.

    Vikings! Steelers! You choose!

  • Chad G | December 11, 2006 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”28277″]
    Didn’t mean to accuse you of being wrong, I just wanted to make sure that the ball’s that kickers and punters use were taken into account. You’ve clearly done your homework though Chad. Kudos.[/quote]

    Sorry bout that last post, I didn’t want it to sound harsh. Sorry if it did. You did bring up a good point about the punt/kick returns, I actually hadn’t thought of that before, but those pictures should be accurate, those are the types of balls those schools use.

    On another note, I have no idea what GST means…I tried looking through the wilson site, but couldn’t find anything.

  • todd krevanchi | December 11, 2006 at 2:31 pm |

    from the rovell article…
    a. does he not work for espn anymore?
    b. 44 of the 64 (68.8 percent) bowl teams will wear Nike footwear including the Air Huarache 2K4 cleat…em> Oh really? Unless the BCS teams are playing college baseball to figure out who wins the national title players havent worn a football version of that shoe all year. I dont think ive even seen a football version.

    c. rickey jackson had one of the craziest facemasks in recent memory…
    http://cache.gettyim...
    http://store.sportsc...

  • chris | December 11, 2006 at 2:40 pm |

    another under armor-type jersey sighting.

    home

    road

  • Burrill | December 11, 2006 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”28275″]Banker Bill, nice to know that my disdain for pink has seeped into the collective conscience of this board. My work here is done.[/quote]

    No, Minna, I suspect you will always have work to do when it comes to the acceptance of black in unis.

    Just remember: pink is a four-letter word. (I can see it now: “This movie rated R for pervasive pink.”)

  • Eric | December 11, 2006 at 2:41 pm |

    the other team is Spartak Moscow although they are wearing a logo closer to the soccer Spartak Moscow but it’s the same club

    Niiice. Thanks.

    How the h*ll would you know that?
    Master Nico, I have much to learn …

  • chris | December 11, 2006 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”28292″]another under armor-type jersey sighting.

    home

    road[/quote]

    oops click on the batavia bulldog picture album…

  • todd krevanchi | December 11, 2006 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”28284″][quote comment=”28270″]Need some help here.

    Lemaire scores on on some mystery pylons

    The French sign in the background would indicate that it is in Quebec (as would the home whites). The black plastic Lange skates as well as the helmeted players would suggest it was in the last-70’s (he also retired in 1979) and not 1971 as it says in the associated note.

    But I certainly don’t recall the Vancouver Canucks ever having a jersey like that.[/quote]

    the other team is Spartak Moscow although they are wearing a logo closer to the soccer Spartak Moscow but it’s the same club[/quote]

    spartak moscow is who sue bird will be playing her winter ball with this season…

  • Chad G | December 11, 2006 at 2:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”28283″]the GST stands for: Genuinely S***tacular. Theyre like the cheap ones people buy at the supermarket.[/quote]

    They are not cheap balls from the supermarket

    Wilson does sell replica balls for like $20 with black laces, but they are not GST balls.

    Here is Northwestern using one in a game from last year

  • Burrill | December 11, 2006 at 2:44 pm |

    Dang it.

  • Broker75 | December 11, 2006 at 2:46 pm |

    Let’s go Charger’s ,and I’m not even a Charger fan, but come on now, it’s like whoa.

  • Chad G | December 11, 2006 at 2:48 pm |

    Nevermind, that URL is obviously rtarted in some way. It was just a link to the wilson GST ball page. You can go to wilson.com and find it.

  • Minna H | December 11, 2006 at 2:50 pm |

    Burrill, you are correct, sadly, about the lack of acceptance for black in unis. I must fight tirelessly for the poor, much-maligned color (except in the Mets’ unis, of course).

    Pervasive pink—that should be rated X—for obscene. Punk the pink! Pink stinks!

  • Metsfan AZ | December 11, 2006 at 2:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”28303″]Nevermind, that URL is obviously rtarted in some way. It was just a link to the wilson GST ball page. You can go to wilson.com and find it.[/quote]
    found it, what does it stand for?

  • Dave O'Ryan | December 11, 2006 at 2:54 pm |

    As for the faskmasks in Necessary Roughness, they were Riddell Kra-Lite MB-2. Probably the most famous wearer was Kerwin Bell while playing for the Orlando Thunder of the WLAF and the first to use a helmet cam….

    http://www.geocities...

    Here is one available on eBay….

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    http://www.riddell1....

    http://www.goallinea...

  • Eric | December 11, 2006 at 2:56 pm |

    Let’s go Charger’s ,and I’m not even a Charger fan, but come on now, it’s like whoa.

    She quotes from from a hardcore Marxist and likes to wear Nascar-related fetish wear. I’d like to see the Venn diagram on those two topics – I bet the intersection would be minuscule.

  • chris | December 11, 2006 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”28298″][quote comment=”28283″]the GST stands for: Genuinely S***tacular. Theyre like the cheap ones people buy at the supermarket.[/quote]

    Wilson does sell replica balls for like $20 with black laces, but they are not GST balls.

    Here is Northwestern using one in a game from last year[/quote]

    they’re not exactly cheap, but when playing with it the size is smaller than the normal balls and they are made out of adifferent material than the others. I just dont like them.

  • Brandon T. | December 11, 2006 at 2:58 pm |

    Thanks for all the help on the Ohio State ball(comments 54 & 55). I wasn’t aware of Jim Tressel being an “advisor” (a.k.a. paid endorser) of Wilson, I assumed all Nike schools had to use Nike balls as part of their Nike contract. Guess not.

    BT

  • Broker75 | December 11, 2006 at 3:01 pm |

    I bet the intersection would be minuscule.
    I’d like to minuscule her alright.
    lightning

  • WVU Tom | December 11, 2006 at 3:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”28301″]Let’s go Charger’s ,and I’m not even a Charger fan, but come on now, it’s like whoa.[/quote]

    Hmmm…no real uni discussion here…OK, I’ll guess I’ll let it slide this time. (of course, I’m no position to say what can and can’t be discussed, so I guess I should just enjoy!)

    I have to question this girls hygene habits–doesn’t she know how dirty those gym floors can be?!?

  • al | December 11, 2006 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”28274″][quote comment=”28270″]Need some help here.

    Lemaire scores on on some mystery pylons

    The French sign in the background would indicate that it is in Quebec (as would the home whites). The black plastic Lange skates as well as the helmeted players would suggest it was in the last-70’s (he also retired in 1979) and not 1971 as it says in the associated note.

    But I certainly don’t recall the Vancouver Canucks ever having a jersey like that.[/quote]
    I can’t make out which team that would be..It can’t be the Canucks, their original logo was the hockey stick in the rink, and their 70’s-80’s jersey was the yellow crazy ones, hmm.
    At first glance I thought it was the Colorado Rockies.[/quote]

    Nah… can’t be the Rockies… did the California Golden Seals have that logo on their away sweaters, I don’t think so either…
    My guess it’s not an NHL team.
    Send up the Batsignal… we need Teebz, where’s PuckMan at ?

  • Dave O'Ryan | December 11, 2006 at 3:03 pm |

    I was looking again at that Chad Johnson photo from yesterday and noticed that two of the sideline guys are wearing “9″ anklebands. Anyone know what that’s about?

    I wonder if it was the 9th home game for the Bengals and this was how they handout field passes for sideline help and phoographers

  • nico | December 11, 2006 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”28295″]

    the other team is Spartak Moscow although they are wearing a logo closer to the soccer Spartak Moscow but it’s the same club

    Niiice. Thanks.

    How the h*ll would you know that?
    Master Nico, I have much to learn …[/quote]

    Being a soccer fan makes you see teams from all over the World, and Spartak regularly plays the Champions League…

  • Shane | December 11, 2006 at 3:05 pm |

    I’d like to know if this is common practice in soccer or if this is the Daniel Beltrame’s trademark.

    Olli Kahn wears a hat once in a while with Bayern Munich. I don’t know if he ever did it while playing for Germany, though.

    I also remember seeing a replay of the 1977 FA Cup Final recently, and Liverpool’s keeper had a hat on for the second half.

    And Paul, kudos for the picture of Clemmensen. I met him in Albany, he’s a pretty good guy.

  • WVU Tom | December 11, 2006 at 3:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”28314″][quote comment=”28301″]Let’s go Charger’s ,and I’m not even a Charger fan, but come on now, it’s like whoa.[/quote]

    Hmmm…no real uni discussion here…OK, I’ll guess I’ll let it slide this time. (of course, I’m no position to say what can and can’t be discussed, so I guess I should just enjoy!)

    I have to question this girls hygene habits–doesn’t she know how dirty those gym floors can be?!?[/quote]

    Link doesn’t seem to work–let’s try this.

  • Jay B Palmer | December 11, 2006 at 3:07 pm |

    It looks like Rovell did leave ESPN a while ago.

  • Broker75 | December 11, 2006 at 3:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”28319″][quote comment=”28314″][quote comment=”28301″]Let’s go Charger’s ,and I’m not even a Charger fan, but come on now, it’s like whoa.[/quote]

    Hmmm…no real uni discussion here…OK, I’ll guess I’ll let it slide this time. (of course, I’m no position to say what can and can’t be discussed, so I guess I should just enjoy!)

    I have to question this girls hygene habits–doesn’t she know how dirty those gym floors can be?!?[/quote]

    Link doesn’t seem to work–let’s try this.[/quote]
    If it was Halloween, I’d dress up as a gym floor.

  • Mike | December 11, 2006 at 3:09 pm |

    The Riddell face masks were also used extensively in the CFL back in the day. One of the more prominent wearers was Henry ‘Gizmo’ Williams (http://www.smcassano...). Also, the full size version that Willie Anderson uses is also used by Wayne Gandy of the Falcons.

  • Andy (#11) | December 11, 2006 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”28305″][quote comment=”28303″]Nevermind, that URL is obviously rtarted in some way. It was just a link to the wilson GST ball page. You can go to wilson.com and find it.[/quote]
    found it, what does it stand for?[/quote]

    Game Saving Technology.
    At least according to this link.

  • Minna H | December 11, 2006 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”28315″][quote comment=”28274″][quote comment=”28270″]Need some help here.

    Lemaire scores on on some mystery pylons

    The French sign in the background would indicate that it is in Quebec (as would the home whites). The black plastic Lange skates as well as the helmeted players would suggest it was in the last-70’s (he also retired in 1979) and not 1971 as it says in the associated note.

    But I certainly don’t recall the Vancouver Canucks ever having a jersey like that.[/quote]
    I can’t make out which team that would be..It can’t be the Canucks, their original logo was the hockey stick in the rink, and their 70’s-80’s jersey was the yellow crazy ones, hmm.
    At first glance I thought it was the Colorado Rockies.[/quote]

    Nah… can’t be the Rockies… did the California Golden Seals have that logo on their away sweaters, I don’t think so either…
    My guess it’s not an NHL team.
    Send up the Batsignal… we need Teebz, where’s PuckMan at ?[/quote]

    You read my mind, al. As I was going through this thread, I thought it called for Teebz, too. T. Cratchit? You out there? Bueller? Bueller?

    And, give it up for Lemaire, the coach of the Wild!

  • Broker75 | December 11, 2006 at 3:11 pm |

    The power’s of being hot, who needs gravity.

  • Eric | December 11, 2006 at 3:15 pm |

    I have to question this girls hygene habits–doesn’t she know how dirty those gym floors can be?!?

    Ok, 2 remarks and I’ll go.

    1. check out the URL on that one. Assets you bet! (hardy, har, har)
    2. the “Jenny Craig Pavilion”? So this is what America has come too … (smug Canadian)

  • jexby | December 11, 2006 at 3:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”28278″]
    I was watching and saw it. It was Shawne Merriman of the Chargers. They were messing with the strap on his pads that connects the front part of the chest pad to the back part of the shoulder pads. Not sure what happened to it as to why they needed to change it. Also, Merriman has some words shaved into the right side of his head.[/quote]

    I believe those words in his head are:

    ‘Roided Up

  • Chad G | December 11, 2006 at 3:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”28316″]I was looking again at that Chad Johnson photo from yesterday and noticed that two of the sideline guys are wearing “9″ anklebands. Anyone know what that’s about?

    I wonder if it was the 9th home game for the Bengals and this was how they handout field passes for sideline help and phoographers[/quote]

    Can’t be, each NFL team only has 8 home games a year.

  • dchis | December 11, 2006 at 3:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”28332″][quote comment=”28316″]I was looking again at that Chad Johnson photo from yesterday and noticed that two of the sideline guys are wearing “9″ anklebands. Anyone know what that’s about?

    I wonder if it was the 9th home game for the Bengals and this was how they handout field passes for sideline help and phoographers[/quote]

    Can’t be, each NFL team only has 8 home games a year.[/quote]

    Should read the other comments earlier in the day about this. The Bengals have played nine home games now because of the 2 preseason home games and then 7 regular season home games.

  • Matt B | December 11, 2006 at 3:24 pm |

    The Necessary Roughness helmets remind me of the facemask Terry Bradshaw used to wear. Dig the poorly applied logo decal (good luck trying to affix a planar sticker to a sphere…)

  • Broker75 | December 11, 2006 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”28315″][quote comment=”28274″][quote comment=”28270″]Need some help here.

    Lemaire scores on on some mystery pylons

    The French sign in the background would indicate that it is in Quebec (as would the home whites). The black plastic Lange skates as well as the helmeted players would suggest it was in the last-70’s (he also retired in 1979) and not 1971 as it says in the associated note.

    But I certainly don’t recall the Vancouver Canucks ever having a jersey like that.[/quote]
    I can’t make out which team that would be..It can’t be the Canucks, their original logo was the hockey stick in the rink, and their 70’s-80’s jersey was the yellow crazy ones, hmm.
    At first glance I thought it was the Colorado Rockies.[/quote]

    Nah… can’t be the Rockies… did the California Golden Seals have that logo on their away sweaters, I don’t think so either…
    My guess it’s not an NHL team.
    [/quote]
    The Cleveland Barons had a team in the 70’s, it might’ve been their alt’s (did they have alt’s back then). Kansas City also had a team.

  • Miguel | December 11, 2006 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”28288″]from the rovell article…
    a. does he not work for espn anymore?
    b. 44 of the 64 (68.8 percent) bowl teams will wear Nike footwear including the Air Huarache 2K4 cleat…
    Oh really? Unless the BCS teams are playing college baseball to figure out who wins the national title players havent worn a football version of that shoe all year. I dont think ive even seen a football version.

    [/quote]

    a) I think Rovell left ESPN over the summer.

    b) Good call on the Huarache 2K4.

    Makes you wonder where they get there info regarding products used and market share. I’ve been keeping up with Peewee and high school and football here in Texas and no way does Under Armour have 24% market share on cleats like Rovell’s colleague states. I don’t know – maybe it’s different in other parts of the country.

  • WVU Tom | December 11, 2006 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”28332″][quote comment=”28316″]I was looking again at that Chad Johnson photo from yesterday and noticed that two of the sideline guys are wearing “9″ anklebands. Anyone know what that’s about?

    I wonder if it was the 9th home game for the Bengals and this was how they handout field passes for sideline help and phoographers[/quote]

    Can’t be, each NFL team only has 8 home games a year.[/quote]

    Most teams will count thier 2 preseason games as part of the home game package, so the first home game of the regular season would be #3.

    Counting that way, that was the Bengals’ 9th home game.

  • WVU Tom | December 11, 2006 at 3:33 pm |

    late as usual…

    (re: comments 146 and 150)

  • Kerry | December 11, 2006 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”28279″][quote comment=”28275″][quote comment=”28241″][quote comment=”28231″]Mary Buckheit might be stepping on some toes with this Page 2 article. Good article though, I hate the pink jersey trend.

    When I saw the title I thought it was written by Minna.[/quote]

    First person I though of too…Paul, you have a Page 2 affiliation – did you give this writer “permission” to vent on this topic – which she’s right on 100% by the way….[/quote]

    Banker Bill, nice to know that my disdain for pink has seeped into the collective conscience of this board. My work here is done.[/quote]

    Minna, I think that anyone who has spent more than a week in the comments section knows of your disdain for pink and thus thought of you immediately when reading the Mary Buckheit article. And I’m with 100% on pink (well ok, I think pink hats are acceptable at times for girls), but we definitely differ on the use of the color black; e.g. I thought the Saints looked terrible yesterday.[/quote]
    You mean the unis looked terrible yesterday, right? ‘Cause that team layed the wood on Dallas last night!

    WHO DAT!!!! (sorry, just a little excited after years of sub-mediocrity)

  • Matthew S. | December 11, 2006 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”28341″][quote comment=”28279″][quote comment=”28275″][quote comment=”28241″][quote comment=”28231″]Mary Buckheit might be stepping on some toes with this Page 2 article. Good article though, I hate the pink jersey trend.

    When I saw the title I thought it was written by Minna.[/quote]

    First person I though of too…Paul, you have a Page 2 affiliation – did you give this writer “permission” to vent on this topic – which she’s right on 100% by the way….[/quote]

    Banker Bill, nice to know that my disdain for pink has seeped into the collective conscience of this board. My work here is done.[/quote]

    Minna, I think that anyone who has spent more than a week in the comments section knows of your disdain for pink and thus thought of you immediately when reading the Mary Buckheit article. And I’m with 100% on pink (well ok, I think pink hats are acceptable at times for girls), but we definitely differ on the use of the color black; e.g. I thought the Saints looked terrible yesterday.[/quote]
    You mean the unis looked terrible yesterday, right? ‘Cause that team layed the wood on Dallas last night!

    WHO DAT!!!! (sorry, just a little excited after years of sub-mediocrity)[/quote]

    Yeah, I don’t like the Saints or the Cowboys, so I didn’t watch much of the game, but I was indeed referring to the Saints all black uniforms.

    Minna I missed your analysis of the Saints uniforms on Sunday, I’ll go back and check it out when I have a minute later today.

    The only team I think that does look good in all black is the New Zealand National Rugby Team, aka “The All Blacks”.

    Team history: http://en.wikipedia....

    Video of the team performing the pre-match Haka: http://www.allblacks...

  • Matthew S. | December 11, 2006 at 3:58 pm |

    And if the video doesn’t work, here’s a picture of the team performing the pre-match Haka: http://en.wikipedia....

  • Thorold Blair | December 11, 2006 at 4:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”28270″]Need some help here.

    Lemaire scores on on some mystery pylons

    The French sign in the background would indicate that it is in Quebec (as would the home whites). The black plastic Lange skates as well as the helmeted players would suggest it was in the last-70’s (he also retired in 1979) and not 1971 as it says in the associated note.

    But I certainly don’t recall the Vancouver Canucks ever having a jersey like that.[/quote]

    Colorado Rockies maybe?

  • Tim D | December 11, 2006 at 4:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”28345″][quote comment=”28270″]Need some help here.

    Lemaire scores on on some mystery pylons

    The French sign in the background would indicate that it is in Quebec (as would the home whites). The black plastic Lange skates as well as the helmeted players would suggest it was in the last-70’s (he also retired in 1979) and not 1971 as it says in the associated note.

    But I certainly don’t recall the Vancouver Canucks ever having a jersey like that.[/quote]

    Colorado Rockies maybe?[/quote]
    That is my guess also….unless it’s a pre-season game against some Canadian Minor League Team?

  • Gary | December 11, 2006 at 4:12 pm |

    Hey, I think I’ve found UniWatch an official mascot. The anemone crab, with his striped eye stalks. How do you like that, a crap with fashion sense….

  • Dan from PC | December 11, 2006 at 4:13 pm |

    stern getting rid of the new ball no need to worry about teams changing their logos.

  • Jeff I | December 11, 2006 at 4:17 pm |

    Maybe those guys with the “9” anklebands are contenders to be the 9th Bengal arrested this season?

  • Riff | December 11, 2006 at 4:31 pm |

    I noticed Ed Reed was wearing a cleated version of the Nike Huarache Trainer on Sunday. It’s basically a custom colored upper on Nike’s molded TD cleat plate.

  • todd krevanchi | December 11, 2006 at 4:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”28353″]I noticed Ed Reed was wearing a cleated version of the Nike Huarache Trainer on Sunday. It’s basically a custom colored upper on Nike’s molded TD cleat plate.[/quote]

    wow! that is one pretty PE!!! its gotta be light as a feather as well… all of those “free” shoes weigh nothing…

  • JimmyMac | December 11, 2006 at 4:48 pm |

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Ummm…that’s a Commissioner turnover…opps…bet someone at the NBA is cleaning up the ol’ resume…

    Can he change the Wizards alternate too?

  • Minna H | December 11, 2006 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”28343″]

    Minna I missed your analysis of the Saints uniforms on Sunday, I’ll go back and check it out when I have a minute later today.

    The only team I think that does look good in all black is the New Zealand National Rugby Team, aka “The All Blacks”.

    Team history: http://en.wikipedia....

    Video of the team performing the pre-match Haka: http://www.allblacks...

    Matthew, I was just saying why I preferred the Jax all blacks over the Saints’—nothing too earth-shattering. I love the All Blacks’ unis. So simple and clean.

  • Broker75 | December 11, 2006 at 4:52 pm |

    I wonder if Rex is gonna pull a stinker tonight in St.Louis.
    Peyton Manning will never win a Superbowl under Tony Dungy.

  • Matthew S. | December 11, 2006 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”28356″][quote comment=”28343″]

    Minna I missed your analysis of the Saints uniforms on Sunday, I’ll go back and check it out when I have a minute later today.

    The only team I think that does look good in all black is the New Zealand National Rugby Team, aka “The All Blacks”.

    Team history: http://en.wikipedia....

    Video of the team performing the pre-match Haka: http://www.allblacks...

    Matthew, I was just saying why I preferred the Jax all blacks over the Saints’—nothing too earth-shattering. I love the All Blacks’ unis. So simple and clean.[/quote]

    They are simple, which is what makes them great. I’m even ok with the large Adidas logo on there, the spare use of the three white stripes on the jersey (especially that awesome fern logo over the left breast of the jersey) and on the socks.

    I like the Jacksonville’s all black more than the Saints’ all black too, but nothing compares to the Original All Blacks.

  • Coop | December 11, 2006 at 4:56 pm |

    Chris…can’t get your link to work…it opens my facebook account.

    [quote comment=”28285″]MY former high school team wears these. Sleeves and all.[/quote]

  • Broker75 | December 11, 2006 at 4:57 pm |

    Big game tonight between the Capitals and Penguins. Ovechkin vs Crosby.

  • Scott | December 11, 2006 at 5:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”28266″][quote comment=”28258″]UCLA with Adidas ball(Adidas School)

    USC with Nike ball(Nike School)

    Georgia Tech with Nike ball(Russel Athletic School)

    Notre Dame with Wilson Ball(Adidas School)

    Michigan with Wilson ball(Nike School)

    Northwestern is an Adidas school that uses a Wilson GST ball(the one with the black laces) if I find a pic i’ll post it[/quote]
    What does GST stand for?[/quote]
    I read somewhere (don’t know at the moment) during this season that NCAA teams supply their own footballs for a game, e.g., when Nebraska (adidas) played USC (Nike) the Huskers brought a supply of footballs to SoCal for its offense. I noticed the NU punter using a Nike ball to kick to Oklahoma during the (Dr Pepper ™) Big XII Championship game. So did the NCAA put this rule into effect to add to the logo creep during the games, and thereby bring more $$$ into the schools’ football budgets?!? Inquiring conspiracy theorists want to know!

    Scott

  • Ian | December 11, 2006 at 5:04 pm |

    The field is at the Dome. Not the other way around.

  • todd krevanchi | December 11, 2006 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”28355″]http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2694335

    Ummm…that’s a Commissioner turnover…opps…bet someone at the NBA is cleaning up the ol’ resume…

    Can he change the Wizards alternate too?[/quote]

    so does this mean they are switching to the old ball, or keeping the new ball (pattern) and just switching to leather?

  • Teenage FBI | December 11, 2006 at 5:06 pm |

    Following up on a post I made a few days back, here is a slightly better shot of the new CCM helmet Alexander Ovechkin has started wearing. The more I see it, the less I like it.

    Looks like a cross between the Mission and the immensely-ugly-suddenly-ubiquitous Bauer/Cooper models.

    Also, look close, and you’ll notice that there is a new logo for CCM, which would be terrible news, considering that they have one of the best logos of any company.

  • Carl | December 11, 2006 at 5:11 pm |

    I didn’t want to take the time to read all posts, so if someone already mentioned this about the Necessary Roughness facemasks, I aplogize: I remember that particular facemask being predominantly used in the WLAF when it was around in the early 1990’s (Orlando Thunder, Sacramento Surge?, etc.)

  • Smail | December 11, 2006 at 5:25 pm |

    regarding the Buckeye/Nike/Wilson football discussion: The Buckeyes have used Wilson footballs for as long as I can remember; being manufactured in Ohio was probably what got it started. When the Nike deal was inked in the mid 90’s, there was some concern that the Buckeyes would switch to the Nike balls, but the decision was left to the quarterback. Whoever the QB was at the time decided to stay with the Wilson ball, saying it felt better or some such.

    I remember reading an article in The Columbus Dispatch about it years ago. Now that Tressel’s on board, I guess the qb doesn’t get to make the call anymore.

  • JimmyMac | December 11, 2006 at 5:34 pm |

    “switch back to the old leather model for all games”
    probably means it’s back to the old ball and ditching both the material and the pattern…

    And the D-League would have been the “perfect” place to perfect the ball. Nah, too obvious.

  • Bill Blewett | December 11, 2006 at 5:39 pm |

    I really expected to see something about this here tonight, to learn more about it, but unfortunately since I expected that I didn’t take many notes myself… One of the Cowboys DBs last night had the weirdest facemask I’ve everseen, he looked like a pig. He was one of the two that got burned by Reggie bush on his long flat reception run for a TD. Any pics?

  • Eric | December 11, 2006 at 5:43 pm |

    Question 1:

    On the Bengals’ decals kit—the guy is auctioning off a kit for other teams as well. Check out his other items.

    Vikings! Steelers! You choose!

    Ok, I’ll bite…

    I understand why Cleveland is missing from the list, but where is Arizona and/or Indianapolis? Does St.Louis and/or Baltimore still hold a copyright on the bird head or horseshoe?

    Question 2:

    The Necessary Roughness helmets remind me of the facemask Terry Bradshaw used to wear. Dig the poorly applied logo decal (good luck trying to affix a planar sticker to a sphere…)

    Can anyone answer how to get around the problem mentioned above?

    flat thing on round thing with no buckling?

  • Chad G | December 11, 2006 at 5:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”28373″]I really expected to see something about this here tonight, to learn more about it, but unfortunately since I expected that I didn’t take many notes myself… One of the Cowboys DBs last night had the weirdest facemask I’ve everseen, he looked like a pig. He was one of the two that got burned by Reggie bush on his long flat reception run for a TD. Any pics?[/quote]

    There was a lot of discussion about this earlier in the day, look throught the first 50 or so comments from today

  • Eric | December 11, 2006 at 5:46 pm |

    Missing references:

    Old problem:
    Terry’s noggin

    Modern fix is done how?
    flat thing on round thing with no buckling?

  • DAVID | December 11, 2006 at 5:47 pm |

    the masks you are refering to from the movie are not dunguards..i believe they were a riddell product..since that was what they wore in movie. i was an equipment mamanger for a long time and those masks were great for lineman.they didnt get scraped up ro anything.

  • Steve | December 11, 2006 at 5:48 pm |

    On Eastbay you can now own your own generic Notre Dame quarterback who could or could not be Brady Quinn Heisman winner shirt!

    Go Irish!
    Direct to the photo

    Wait…he lost? Oh.

    Interestingly, Eastbay’s “Fan gear” page has nike listed as the shirt’s creator, not Reebok. However, if you go to order the shirts, it does say Reebok in the description.

    Fan gear page

  • Matthew S. | December 11, 2006 at 5:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”28379″]On Eastbay you can now own your own generic Notre Dame quarterback who could or could not be Brady Quinn Heisman winner shirt!

    Go Irish!
    Direct to the photo

    Wait…he lost? Oh.

    Interestingly, Eastbay’s “Fan gear” page has nike listed as the shirt’s creator, not Reebok. However, if you go to order the shirts, it does say Reebok in the description.

    Fan gear page [/quote]

    What cracks me up about that is that you would think that these sports apparel websites have someone sitting at a computer, ready to take offline the gear of everyone but the winner. But no, it’s still online two days later. Things like this just strike me as sloppy and lazy.

  • Bobby D | December 11, 2006 at 6:14 pm |

    I can’t say I’m in love with the green boxing gloves-green boxing shorts combination….that’s a weird shade of green. I think the white gloves are better than the green. It might be advantage (if you’re the only boxer wearing them) to wear white ones because it could clearly show more shots connecting….er unless one were fighting a very pale person, LOL.

  • bg | December 11, 2006 at 6:16 pm |

    NBA ball go bye-bye.
    http://msn.foxsports...

  • bg | December 11, 2006 at 6:22 pm |

    Paul put a brief blurb up on this; read it in detail. words fail me on this.

    http://online.wsj.co...

  • Patrick Mahoney | December 11, 2006 at 6:25 pm |

    Looks like from that picture that chad Johnson had a different face mask once again. Does he change the style of his every week?

  • Steve-O | December 11, 2006 at 6:36 pm |

    i’ve seen this facemask before when i played littel league football. the helmets that had this face mask not only had the facemask but were and entirely different helmet design. instead of an inflatable ring around the top of the helmet, these helmets feature a bunch of little foam squares on the inside.

  • Boilermaker | December 11, 2006 at 6:53 pm |

    This is kindof a random thought but here goes: Mike Karney had never scored a TD in his career, it was his 44th game, and his uninumber is….take a guess…. 44, he scored three last night. Coincidence or what! lol

  • Boilermaker | December 11, 2006 at 6:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”28383″]NBA ball go bye-bye.
    http://msn.foxsports...
    Thats funny, I was at a spoorts store and they said they sold a bunch of the Authentic NBA balls, probably for christma, for, more than $100. What are these gift givers gonna do now?

  • Larry C | December 11, 2006 at 6:58 pm |

    A bit of a dilemma:

    I admit, I am one of those people that got a “fashion” jersey for his girlfriend. I couldn’t resist. However, I do have three things going for me:

    1.) It’s not pink.
    2.) It’s actually lime green, which is my girlfriend’s favorite color.
    3.) Technically, lime green IS one of the team colors for the team, the Seattle Seahawks. Sure, it’s not an “official” jersey, but I had heard rumors that the ‘Hawks had, once upon a time, considered doing a lime green alternate jersey but nixed the idea. (I can see why: looks great on the gals, not so great on the guys.)

    Was a wrong in buying into this trend?

    Additional note: I also got her a lime green ‘Hawks cap, which seems to get compliments from lots of folks, fans and non-fans alike.

  • Warren Thompson | December 11, 2006 at 7:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”28168″][quote comment=”28164″]In that boxing photo with the loincloth Rachid Drilzane is feeling the Wrath of Khan.

    Khaaaaannnn!

    Okay now get back to work.[/quote]

    That loincloth is similar to what Roman gladiators used to wear. Here’s an example. Russell Crowe wore a more suitable, less commercialized example in the movie Gladiator.

    Since he considers himself a warrior, perhaps a gladiator, Drilzane wanted to presumably look the part.[/quote]

    Roman gladiators didn’t wear anything like that. To see what they actually wore, do a Google search for “gladiators.” The movie Gladiator took a great many liberties with historicity, including the sort of helmet sported by Crowe himself.

  • Giancarlo | December 11, 2006 at 7:57 pm |

    Al, Minna, Broker75, Thorold Blair, and TimD
    You’re all trying to answer a question that was answered by Nico back in post #108. The Canadiens’ opponent is Spartak Moscow.

  • aaron | December 11, 2006 at 8:04 pm |

    post pictures as they come along, but it looks like the bears are going white on white tonight. when was the last time that this happened? i don’t remember it…

  • tjand72 | December 11, 2006 at 8:11 pm |

    Those Riddell facemasks were actually pretty strong. My dad was the equipment manager for my Pop Warner team. He took a sledgehammer to those masks numerous times and they held up.

    Greg Lloyd also wore these masks as a Steeler.
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  • Ed R. | December 11, 2006 at 8:42 pm |

    I just found a webpage with pictures (drawings) of all the new MLB BP Jerseys.

  • Patrick | December 11, 2006 at 8:48 pm |

    In an answer to the football question:

    GST = Game Saving Technology.

    This was the slogan Wilson attached to the balls when they started producing them.

    The new differences are the deeper channels on the ball, and the rubberized stripes that make it easier to grip.

    Only a handful of I-A teams (Northwestern, Tennessee, Maryland, N.C. State, and a few others) use it, but most I-AA, II and III teams use them (in some cases, mandated by the NCAA or their conference).

    One ball was forgotten in the discussion, however: Auburn, an Under Armour school, uses Spalding J5V balls.

  • Mark | December 11, 2006 at 9:28 pm |

    The Bengals Willie Anderson still wear the old style Riddell plastic mask.

  • bj (live from G'Ville) | December 11, 2006 at 9:30 pm |

    Florida uses Nike footballs as well, which could explain this (though I think ARK uses them too)

    and I’d think that Florida will wear their standard jersey (with Albert patch) rather than the 100 Years version. 2007 would be 101 years…

  • Jonathan | December 11, 2006 at 9:35 pm |

    Devin Hester (23 for the Bears) is wearing two pairs of striped socks. Has he done this all year?

  • Kevin Fik | December 11, 2006 at 9:35 pm |

    Did anyone notice the dual striped leggings on Devin Hester? His pants were up so high his socks and his knees were striped during his touchdown run.

  • Buckeye Mike | December 11, 2006 at 9:38 pm |

    Don;t know if this has been covered yet, but the ankle thing at the Bengals game is simpley the number of the game as for home games for the team this year. this is the 9th game played in paul brown this season (2 preseason games) and that way the security knows who can and can’t be on the field. there aer other teams that do that, I think OSU puts the logo of the other team on the people, so it is easy to spot. see, you can see it here but can’t tell what it is, but thats the deal folks!

  • Buckeye Mike | December 11, 2006 at 9:41 pm |

    sorry here

  • clay | December 11, 2006 at 9:47 pm |

    what kind of “B” is that on belushi’s hat.

  • Jonathan | December 11, 2006 at 10:04 pm |

    see if this link works… Belushi’s hat

  • Jonathan | December 11, 2006 at 10:06 pm |

  • Jonathan | December 11, 2006 at 10:07 pm |

    Ah, Christ, it’s the Tradition Cap from store.chicagobears.com. I suck at links.

  • Mike | December 11, 2006 at 10:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”28401″]I just found a webpage with pictures (drawings) of all the new MLB BP Jerseys.[/quote]

    That can’t be all the new ones, as it still has black and purple for the D-Backs.

  • Joseph | December 11, 2006 at 10:29 pm |

    I play high school football in Virginia, before the season i went to my local sports store and bought a visor for my helmet. I didn’t get a dark black visor such as LT

    but rather went with an Under Armour tent called smoke
    only to find out that it is illegal to wear a tented visor of anytype in High school which i thoink is a dumb rule.

  • bj | December 11, 2006 at 10:43 pm |

    Joe, you can’t wear a tinted (not tEnted) visor because if you get your ass knocked out, the EMTs/trainers need to be able to see your pupils.

    and despite what you thoink, it’s also illegal in the NCAA.

  • Al | December 11, 2006 at 10:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”28397″]Al, Minna, Broker75, Thorold Blair, and TimD
    You’re all trying to answer a question that was answered by Nico back in post #108. The Canadiens’ opponent is Spartak Moscow.[/quote]

    You’re right Gian…I opined on the answer because I hadn’t see Nico’s answer. Colour my impressed by Nico’s knowledge of early 70’s uniform minutia,thou.

  • Minna H | December 11, 2006 at 10:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”28397″]Al, Minna, Broker75, Thorold Blair, and TimD
    You’re all trying to answer a question that was answered by Nico back in post #108. The Canadiens’ opponent is Spartak Moscow.[/quote]

    Um, not me. I don’t know enough about hockey to even presume to answer. I was just giving a shoutout to Jacques Lemaire, the head coach of the Wild!

  • Minna H | December 11, 2006 at 10:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”28393″]A bit of a dilemma:

    I admit, I am one of those people that got a “fashion” jersey for his girlfriend. I couldn’t resist. However, I do have three things going for me:

    1.) It’s not pink.
    2.) It’s actually lime green, which is my girlfriend’s favorite color.
    3.) Technically, lime green IS one of the team colors for the team, the Seattle Seahawks. Sure, it’s not an “official” jersey, but I had heard rumors that the ‘Hawks had, once upon a time, considered doing a lime green alternate jersey but nixed the idea. (I can see why: looks great on the gals, not so great on the guys.)

    Was a wrong in buying into this trend?

    Additional note: I also got her a lime green ‘Hawks cap, which seems to get compliments from lots of folks, fans and non-fans alike.[/quote]

    Larry C., that is more complicated as the Seahawks do have close to that color in their scheme. I guess to me, it boils down to this: can she name three players on the team and their positions? If yes, then fine. In other words, as long as she’s a real fan and they aren’t pink, it’s borderline ok. I really don’t like the fashion jerseys, but that’s just personal preference.

  • Miguel | December 11, 2006 at 11:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”28401″]I just found a webpage with pictures (drawings) of all the new MLB BP Jerseys.[/quote]

    Is this legit? The Yankees have never had a two-tone batting practice jersey.

    [quote comment=”28409″]Florida uses Nike footballs as well, which could explain this (though I think ARK uses them too)[/quote]

    No way Arkansas uses a Nike ball. They’re a department-wide adidas school. This play was a Florida punt that the dude from Arkansas tried to catch behind his head inside the five.

  • Steve Prudente | December 11, 2006 at 11:29 pm |

    Marc Bulger’s helmet has a darker shade of blue in the ‘stripe’ area. I don’t see it on any other Rams players.

  • Michelle | December 11, 2006 at 11:39 pm |

    So Devin Hester Just set another NFL record with his kick retunrs for TDs but what’s up wtih the double sock

  • My Name is Not Earl | December 11, 2006 at 11:39 pm |

    Wasn’t Savannah State the team that couldn’t win a basketball game a few years back?

    And Rickey Jackson wore that big huge “cage” facebask because, if I remember correctly, he was in a car accident and broke a few bones in his face. So he needed all the protection he could get.

  • Michelle | December 11, 2006 at 11:39 pm |

    here’s the link I think

  • Jim H | December 12, 2006 at 12:36 am |

    Devin Hester’s socks.

  • Paul Lukas | December 12, 2006 at 12:44 am |

    [quote comment=”28426″][quote comment=”28401″]I just found a webpage with pictures (drawings) of all the new MLB BP Jerseys.[/quote]

    Is this legit? The Yankees have never had a two-tone batting practice jersey.[/quote]

    Not only is it legit, but the Yanks will actually have two two-tone BP jerseys — one for home (which is the one shown in that graphic) and one for the road (pretty much the same thing as the home version, except the white side panel is replaced by gray). Really.

  • Jim Wilkerson | December 12, 2006 at 1:21 am |

    [quote comment=”28398″]post pictures as they come along, but it looks like the bears are going white on white tonight. when was the last time that this happened? i don’t remember it…[/quote]

    This is surely not the last time, but a cool pic of Sweetness nonetheless.

    (Also, check out the tape on his ankle – it looks like it nearly covers his entire sock!)

  • Teebz | December 12, 2006 at 1:26 am |

    [quote comment=”28396″]
    Roman gladiators didn’t wear anything like that. To see what they actually wore, do a Google search for “gladiators.” The movie Gladiator took a great many liberties with historicity, including the sort of helmet sported by Crowe himself.[/quote]

    Ok, since I took your advice and did a search, here’s what I found: this, this, this, this, this, this, and this.

    I’m not sure about you, but it looks like they may have worn the skirts. I could have linked more, but I think my point has been made.

  • Teebz | December 12, 2006 at 1:36 am |

    [quote comment=”28284″]
    the other team is Spartak Moscow although they are wearing a logo closer to the soccer Spartak Moscow but it’s the same club[/quote]

    If that’s the case, Spartak played Montreal as part of the Super Series. This game would have been played in 1978, as that was the only time that Montreal and Spartak ever faced one another. Montreal won the game 5-2, by the way. Good call on the skates from being from the 1970s. :o)

    Here’s what the jerseys of Spartak looked like in 1999.

    Honestly, it would have taken me some time to hunt down that logo. However, I could have told you outright that it was not an NHL team. Good job, Nico!

  • Jim Wilkerson | December 12, 2006 at 3:00 am |

    The main problem with the Bears’ white-on-white unis tonight was the socks. They were wearing the road socks (meant to be worn with the dark road pants) with the home white pants, which doesn’t provide the contrast you should have between the two.

  • Riff | December 12, 2006 at 3:55 am |

    Devin Hester was wearing double-striped socks tonight.

  • Riff | December 12, 2006 at 4:16 am |

    Something interesting:

    In this photo, #16 Mark Bradley is wearing Nike’s Magnigrip Super Bad Padded glove that many others wear, but with black padding instead of the solid team color and w/o the NFL Equipment patch. I wonder how her got away with that…

  • Bobby D | December 12, 2006 at 5:36 am |

    [quote comment=”28257″]UVA’s football stadium is called:

    Carl Smith Center, home of David A. Harrison III Field at Scott Stadium.

    Absurd. Used to just be Scott Stadium[/quote]

    LMAO, sounds like the boxing titles ESPN used to give out when boxing was some of the main sports action shown way back when.. BTW, do you think the long name is somewhat related to UVA’s production of lawyers? = D

    About Wilson, they make the best football bar none, let’s not have any of the crude the NBA just went through with the b.balls. I can see Nike buying Wilson out so they can phase out the main brand akin to what they did to Bauer hockey equipment…

  • Bobby D | December 12, 2006 at 5:43 am |

    [quote]
    Jill, thanks for thinking of me. I knew my brainwashing would take at some point. She says it so eloquently, doesn’t she? I am speechless (well, no, not really) at all the examples. I have always thought wearing pink meant ‘I care more about looking cute for the boiz’ than ‘I am a hardcore fan who is female.’ Even on this board, there have been guys who support the pink thing saying, ‘Well, the ladies like it’ in a condescending way.

    Like Mary B. said, if you can break out the creds that show you were a fan from way back when and you happen to love pink, fine. Otherwise, you ain’t a real fan.

    Here are the results for the poll on pink (you can see my results).

    pink stinks![/quote]

    1) If you’re guy, would you ever date a pink?

    56.9% Yes
    43.1% No

    Um, er, ah…..the singer??? Is that another trick question of a typo? = D

  • ToasterPoodle | December 12, 2006 at 8:01 am |

    [quote comment=”28282″]Regarding the Bengals helmet decals sold on e-bay: I read this interview Paul did last year with the guy who supplies helmet decals to many nfl teams, he said the Bengals helmets were painted…Makes you wonder about the authenticity of these decals.[/quote]

    Could be that these are helmet decals used in pee wee football.

  • John from KY | December 12, 2006 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”28387″]i’ve seen this facemask before when i played littel league football. the helmets that had this face mask not only had the facemask but were and entirely different helmet design. instead of an inflatable ring around the top of the helmet, these helmets feature a bunch of little foam squares on the inside.[/quote]

    As many have said in other posts those plastic masks were made by Riddell from the same Kra-Lite II plastic as the helmet shells. They came on the helmets; according to HelmetHut most of the time the teams would just take them off and throw them out.

    That Riddell padding system of small, square, non-inflated foam pads was used on several helmet styles that are no longer in production, most recently on the WD-1, which only used this type of padding, the AF-2, which used this padding in the back but had an inflated crown and sides, and the VSR-1, which used this padding in the crown and sides but had an inflated back. I suspect that Steve-O had the youth version of the WD-1.

    By the way, all those helmets have been retired by Riddell. However, Brett Favre still wears a WD-1 helmet, so when he retires that model will also fade into history.

    And thanks for making me feel really old – I remember our high school team used Riddell PAC-3 helmets, which was the first model to use those little sealed foam pads back in the mid-to-late 70s.

  • al | December 12, 2006 at 9:50 am |

    [quote comment=”28483″][quote comment=”28398″]post pictures as they come along, but it looks like the bears are going white on white tonight. when was the last time that this happened? i don’t remember it…[/quote]

    This is surely not the last time, but a cool pic of Sweetness nonetheless.

    (Also, check out the tape on his ankle – it looks like it nearly covers his entire sock!)[/quote]

    great, no Sweet picture of Sweetness. I too love the spatting on the ankle! RIP SWEETNESS!

  • Travis | December 13, 2006 at 7:35 pm |

    I have worked with credentialing at football games, and I would bet that 9 is the designation for the photo area at PBS. Where I worked we used numbers to designate areas such as the team bench, and photo areas. The band is something that is commonly used on ankles/arms for photographers at football games.

  • JRanc | January 9, 2007 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”28288″]from the rovell article…
    a. does he not work for espn anymore?
    b. 44 of the 64 (68.8 percent) bowl teams will wear Nike footwear including the Air Huarache 2K4 cleat…em> Oh really? Unless the BCS teams are playing college baseball to figure out who wins the national title players havent worn a football version of that shoe all year. I dont think ive even seen a football version.[/quote]
    Yea, I remember reading that and thinking the same thing. I think he meant the Nike Huarache 2k6 D cleats, which as mentioned by Riff, are already being worn by the likes of Ed Reed and other such players. I remember seeing Jeff Garcia wearing them at training camp in 2006, although he wore the Jordan Mach III cleats in a Black/Silver colorway this past weekend when the Eagles beat the Giants.

  • JRanc | January 9, 2007 at 2:52 pm |

    Sorry to double post, but I just had to mention the fact that Terrell Owens is once again wearing the Jordan XIII cleats (he wore them for a period when he played for Philly) in a White/Navy colorway and that Marvin Harrison wore the lowtop-version of them in a Black/Silver colorway during their respective Wild Card games. This isn’t really huge news since the Jordan XIII cleats were released a couple years ago, but the lowtops were never released. Plus, I just thought that the cleats look very cool and I had to share the pictures with everyone.