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Keep Your Pants On

Remember those black slacks that NFL officials were supposed to wear this season for cold-weather games? I thought for sure we’d see them for this past Monday’s snow bowl in Seattle, but the zebras in that game wore their regular white knickers, leading me (and others) to wonder if the whole slacks experiment had been quietly shelved before it could even see the light of day.

Not so, says NFL officiating executive Larry Upson, who happily discussed the issue with me when I called to ask about the slacks (and who’s also credited as the editor for NFL’s official rulebook — see link at right). Our conversation went like this:

Uni Watch: So how come we didn’t see the slacks in Seattle?

Larry Upson: Well, believe it or not, it wasn’t actually cold in Seattle. It was snowing, but it wasn’t cold. They didn’t think it was that cold. We really haven’t had any cold-weather games yet where, y’know, where the crew has even — we’ve had one crew ask so far. They have to ask before they can wear ’em, just so we don’t have guys going around willy-nilly wearing them.

UW: In other words, so the whole crew is wearing them, not just one or two guys.

LU: Exactly.

UW: That one crew that asked — which game was that for, and how come they didn’t end up wearing the slacks?

LU: It was Pittsburgh and Cleveland, Week 11. And they had called me on the Friday before the game, because the weather had been predicted to be pretty cold. But as it turned out, it was about 40 degrees, which isn’t too bad.

UW: So how cold does it have to be?

LU: I’ve set a general guideline of about 30 degrees, although that’s flexible, because of things like wind-chill factor.

UW: Would they have had the long slacks available to them for that Browns/Steelers game, if they’d wanted to wear them anyway? I mean, were they there at the stadium, or do you have to ship them to the crew, or what?

LU: Oh, they all have ’em. Once you reach a certain point in the season, you always travel with short-sleeve and long, white and black.

UW: So the slacks are still in the wardrobe — they just haven’t been called for yet.

LU: Right. Actually, it’s supposed to be very cold in Green Bay this Sunday, so you may see them then.

So there you have it: Plenty of waiter, bellhop, and usher jokes on tap for this Sunday in Green Bay. You heard it here first.

Holiday Shopping Update: As you may have noticed at the top of the left column, we have another display advertiser. That would be William Henderson, whose Double-Knit Era Collector’s Reference CD-ROM is an essential resource for anyone reading this. Don’t be fooled by the title — even if you don’t collect jerseys (I don’t collect them myself), the Collector’s Reference is the single best repository of modern-era MLB uni info out there. Highly recommended.

Meanwhile, as promised a few days ago, we have a slew of new Uni Watch merch for sale, and most products are now available in a choice of two logos. In addition to T-shirts (old logo, new logo) and coffee mugs (old, new), we now have trucker’s caps (old, new), travel mugs (old, new, and note that the menu of options on the mug page also includes beer steins), tote bags, fridge magnets, and, by popular demand — well, from Minna H., at least — mouse pads (old, new). You can see the full product line here. Big thanks, as always, to Uni Watch design director Scott M.X. Turner for graciously allowing us to slap his logo designs on anything that doesn’t move.

Okay — now get shoppin’.

Uni Watch News Ticker: As many of you know already, the Dodgers introduced Juan Pierre and Randy Wolf to the media on Wednesday, and in so doing also unveiled their new jerseys. Names have been restored to both the homes and roads, the road jersey’s white insignia outlining and blue placket piping have been eliminated, and the road jersey’s left-sleeve “Dodgers” patch has been replaced by an “LA” patch. … The Reds, meanwhile, will unveil their new uniforms today. And the Cincinnati Enquirer is marking the occasion by running a poll to determine the team’s best uniform ever. … You already knew that the NHL was planning to unveil its new uni template at the All-Star Game in January, but here’s the latest depressing confirmation of it. … In case you missed it in Wednesday’s Comments section: Good explanation here for why Mets pitching coach Rick Peterson always wears a windbreaker, no matter how hot it is. … Also from the Comments: The Reebok logo on the back of Joe Pavelski’s jersey was upside-down on Wednesday night (great catch by David Shucosky). … This little animation starts out being really annoying, but stick with it — after about 20 seconds it develops into a pretty good commentary on logo updates (with thanks to Andrew Landsman). … Good article here on the odd NCAA football protocol of having multiple players with the same uni number. … Laura Koenig notes that the minor league Spokane Indians are revising their logo, with input from the Spokane Indian tribe — apparently the first time such a partnership has been undertaken. Details here. … Two interesting high school football photo finds by Jeff Stephens: First up, a case of dueling winged helmets (and dig those shoulder stripes!). As for the second shot, it kinda speaks for itself. … Good archive of hockey logos, and other hockey stuff, here (with thanks to David Potter). … Gorgeous bit of history shared by Tim Ahner, who writes: “I was going though some pictures that I’d been given by my grandparents. They are of my great-grandfather and the baseball teams that he managed in Fremont, Ohio. I believe they all played in the Fremont Industrial League. The first picture is the 1915 Henkel’s team; the second shot is the 1915 Fremont Industrial Baseball League teams (looks like there were four different teams that year); the third shot is the 1916 Fremont Industrial League teams (I believe there were eight teams that year); and the fourth shot is the 1928 Christy Razors team.” Amazing stuff, Tim — thanks for sharing this bit of family (and uni) history. … Rob Montoya sent along some interesting Pop Warner pics. Among the highlights: Bengals-esque helmets, a “W” logo that will never be mistaken for Wisconsin’s (well, maybe this Wisconsin logo), some killer socks, and the rather jarring sight of a bearded official. … Jeff Israel had a great catch in yesterday’s Comments: “The Boston Bruins have started a new trend where their bench players wear their helmets ‘rally cap’-style (i.e., backwards). Usually it’s just the guys who don’t shoot while the three guys take their chances, and once they get back to the bench they flip their lids. However, tonight the shootout went 7-8 rounds and the Bruins had to use more players than expected. The rally helmets caused a delay for Petr Tenkrat and Phil Kessel, because as their helmets were reversed, their hot/sweaty hair fogged up their visors and they needed to be wiped down so the shooters could see.” … Get a room. … You, too.

 

244 comments to Keep Your Pants On

  • Jonathon | December 1, 2006 at 9:13 am |

    Anyone else notice that they’re playing with an AFL football (Arena League)?

    http://www.popwarner...

  • Rene | December 1, 2006 at 9:15 am |

    i DONT have NFL network and refuse to get it so therefore i only caught the highlights but is it me or did “ocho cinco” have a different stripe pattern on his helmet last night?

  • MArk | December 1, 2006 at 9:17 am |

    Just curious…why different letters on all the hats in that 1928 Christy Razors photo

  • Rich | December 1, 2006 at 9:17 am |

    So “Moore” “Goode” and “Dick” are real?! I always thought that was just a Photoshop job due to the mentioned mis-match typography…

  • NickNH | December 1, 2006 at 9:17 am |

    Moore. Goode. Dick.

    Gotta love the person who saw them standing there and knew he had to take the picture.

    Also gotta love that Nutt had to choose from among Dick and Johnson to be the QB of the Hogs.

    Good god, I sound like Tobias Funke.

  • Tim | December 1, 2006 at 9:17 am |

    In the 1928 Christy Razors picture, check out the player front and center. Is that eyeblack? If so it pre-dates Paul’s assertion from the ESPN article, “The earliest known instance of a player wearing eye black is Redskins fullback Andy Farkas, who apparently came up with the idea on his own in 1942.”

  • Kyle O. | December 1, 2006 at 9:24 am |

    Anyone know how many different types of facemasks and helmets Ocho Cinco has worn this yeah and why… It seems like a new one every week.

  • Tim | December 1, 2006 at 9:24 am |

    [quote comment=”25858″]Moore. Goode. Dick.

    Gotta love the person who saw them standing there and knew he had to take the picture.

    Also gotta love that Nutt had to choose from among Dick and Johnson to be the QB of the Hogs.

    Good god, I sound like Tobias Funke.[/quote]

    I think you just Blue your cover. You’ve made huge mistake.

  • Fitz | December 1, 2006 at 9:29 am |

    The Bruins took the rally helmet idea from the Thrashers who used it last year. Marc Savard started the practice on both teams

  • Fitz | December 1, 2006 at 9:30 am |

  • MetsFan AZ | December 1, 2006 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment=”25859″]In the 1928 Christy Razors picture, check out the player front and center. Is that eyeblack? If so it pre-dates Paul’s assertion from the ESPN article, “The earliest known instance of a player wearing eye black is Redskins fullback Andy Farkas, who apparently came up with the idea on his own in 1942.”[/quote]
    I say puffy eyelids. Or eye”unders”??

  • Tim | December 1, 2006 at 9:37 am |

    [quote comment=”25867″][quote comment=”25859″]In the 1928 Christy Razors picture, check out the player front and center. Is that eyeblack? If so it pre-dates Paul’s assertion from the ESPN article, “The earliest known instance of a player wearing eye black is Redskins fullback Andy Farkas, who apparently came up with the idea on his own in 1942.”[/quote]
    I say puffy eyelids. Or eye”unders”??[/quote]

    That’s what I thought at first too, but they are darker than anyone elses eyes on the team and much more square.

  • James | December 1, 2006 at 9:42 am |

    I know we all saw Chad’s orange chinstrap last night.

  • Pat | December 1, 2006 at 9:46 am |

    [quote comment=”25854″]i DONT have NFL network and refuse to get it so therefore i only caught the highlights but is it me or did “ocho cinco” have a different stripe pattern on his helmet last night?[/quote]

    I don’t have the NFL Network either, and didn’t catch the highlights so I went and checked out the pictures at ESPN.com.

    Check out Rudi Johnson’s helmet compared to Chad Johnson’s helmet. Definitley something screwy going on there. Looks like Ocho Cinco’s helmet has some sort of plate on the side covering up parts of the stripes.

  • Beefalo | December 1, 2006 at 9:50 am |

    Interesting that the Dodgers had the new uniforms on, but not the new caps that are supposed to have the black underbrims. I know Frank Thomas had one during his press conference you mentioned Wednesday but you can see that Juan Pierre has the grey undervisor on his Dodgers cap.

    I know the Dodgers are probably just using the stock from last year, but still interesting to me…

  • Pat | December 1, 2006 at 9:51 am |

    [quote comment=”25870″]I know we all saw Chad’s orange chinstrap last night.[/quote]

    Ah ha, so it’s an orange chin strap. And the orange straps are covering the stripes on the helmet. Good catch. It looked like a plate to me at first because it matches the helmet color. (Or maybe I wasn’t looking hard enough and searching for a quick answer.)

    Gotta say, I like the white better.

  • JD | December 1, 2006 at 9:53 am |

    [quote comment=”25857″]So “Moore” “Goode” and “Dick” are real?! I always thought that was just a Photoshop job due to the mentioned mis-match typography…[/quote]

    I think this is a hoax. There’s no #65 Goode on the roster for the last two years and Casey Dick (who’s real) is a true sophmore.

    Although, I don’t know why photoshop would be necessary. The current #65 is named “Love”. I’ll let you replace “Moore” with “Love” on your own.

  • Joe M. | December 1, 2006 at 9:54 am |

    It may just be the way the stripes are set up on the different styles of helmets?

    Plus the orange chin straps are blending into the helmet’s base color.

  • Robert | December 1, 2006 at 9:57 am |

    Thumbs up to the new Dodgers road jersey. It is a nice improvement and is as close to Dodgers road jersey perfection as can be attained.

  • fred | December 1, 2006 at 10:03 am |

    Not so much about the bearded official, but check out the socks on the players!

  • Cathy Parfitt | December 1, 2006 at 10:04 am |

    Manchester City football club is auctioning off their shirt from remembrance day which has a poppy embroidered. LINK

  • PDXclark | December 1, 2006 at 10:05 am |

    I’m on board with thinking Moore/Goode/Dick is fake. Besides the Moore typography being different, it is also not centered over the number.

  • Kevin Mc | December 1, 2006 at 10:10 am |

    [quote comment=”25879″]Not so much about the bearded official, but check out the socks on the players![/quote]

    Also, #4 in that picture is wearing what appears to be soccer-style shin guards under his socks. I’ve never seen that before in football, but I can imagine it’s pretty functional.

  • MetsFan AZ | December 1, 2006 at 10:13 am |

    [quote comment=”25883″][quote comment=”25879″]Not so much about the bearded official, but check out the socks on the players![/quote]

    Also, #4 in that picture is wearing what appears to be soccer-style shin guards under his socks. I’ve never seen that before in football, but I can imagine it’s pretty functional.[/quote]
    Someone mentioned on this site that Clinton Portis? has done it.

  • al | December 1, 2006 at 10:17 am |

    [quote comment=”25872″][quote comment=”25854″]i DONT have NFL network and refuse to get it so therefore i only caught the highlights but is it me or did “ocho cinco” have a different stripe pattern on his helmet last night?[/quote]

    I don’t have the NFL Network either, and didn’t catch the highlights so I went and checked out the pictures at ESPN.com.

    Check out Rudi Johnson’s helmet compared to Chad Johnson’s helmet. Definitley something screwy going on there. Looks like Ocho Cinco’s helmet has some sort of plate on the side covering up parts of the stripes.[/quote]
    They are not wearing the same model helmet, 85 is wearing a Revolution so that might be distorting the striping.

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 10:19 am |

    Since the NHL All-Star Game has become less about the best players playing hockey against one another and more about the players playing pond hockey and lighting the lamp, is it any wonder that the NHL wants to introduce another ridiculous element to the All-Star Weekend?

    Skill competition can stay, Fan and Media Scrums can stay. The old NHL All-Star Game jerseys were, for the most part, well-designed, and looked good. If you can have jerseys like this, this, this, or this, I say “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”.

    Thanks for ruining the way hockey looks, Reebok. Real classy move.

  • SpartyCuse | December 1, 2006 at 10:21 am |

    There is a Moore on the team. He currently wears #57 and is a redshirt freshman kicker.Moore’s Bio Page

  • Broker75 | December 1, 2006 at 10:22 am |

    I really like the “new”/old changes to the Dodger’s jersey. An instant,.here’s that word, classic.

  • Tim | December 1, 2006 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”25856″]Just curious…why different letters on all the hats in that 1928 Christy Razors photo[/quote]
    I believe that it is because my Great-grandfather did some recruiting from neighboring towns. Clyde, Sandusky, not quite sure about the W on the white hat though, with the F being Fremont.

  • SpartyCuse | December 1, 2006 at 10:24 am |

    And just to finish up…

    Heres Goode!

    And heres your Dick!

  • Tim | December 1, 2006 at 10:26 am |

    [quote comment=”25889″][quote comment=”25856″]Just curious…why different letters on all the hats in that 1928 Christy Razors photo[/quote]
    I believe that it is because my Great-grandfather did some recruiting from neighboring towns. Clyde, Sandusky, not quite sure about the W on the white hat though, with the F being Fremont.[/quote]
    I think the White W may be from Woodville, Ohio

  • Tim | December 1, 2006 at 10:34 am |

    [quote comment=”25872″][quote comment=”25854″]i DONT have NFL network and refuse to get it so therefore i only caught the highlights but is it me or did “ocho cinco” have a different stripe pattern on his helmet last night?[/quote]

    I don’t have the NFL Network either, and didn’t catch the highlights so I went and checked out the pictures at ESPN.com.

    Check out Rudi Johnson’s helmet compared to Chad Johnson’s helmet. Definitley something screwy going on there. Looks like Ocho Cinco’s helmet has some sort of plate on the side covering up parts of the stripes.[/quote]

    I believe that it just looks screwy because CJ has switched to the Revolution helmet for last nights game. The Revolution has a piece of the helmet that comes down over the cheek. It is made this way because a study was done by Ridell and they concluded that most concussions happen by being hit on the side of the head and from the jaw line. These helmets help to disperse the energy better.

  • mg12 | December 1, 2006 at 10:34 am |

    Paul,

    Thanks for the Strongbad video. I love homestarrunner. Remember to “Squish It, Scew It and Turn It All Around”. Don’t forget to add the fangs.

  • Tim | December 1, 2006 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”25893″][quote comment=”25872″][quote comment=”25854″]i DONT have NFL network and refuse to get it so therefore i only caught the highlights but is it me or did “ocho cinco” have a different stripe pattern on his helmet last night?[/quote]

    I don’t have the NFL Network either, and didn’t catch the highlights so I went and checked out the pictures at ESPN.com.

    Check out Rudi Johnson’s helmet compared to Chad Johnson’s helmet. Definitley something screwy going on there. Looks like Ocho Cinco’s helmet has some sort of plate on the side covering up parts of the stripes.[/quote]

    I believe that it just looks screwy because CJ has switched to the Revolution helmet for last nights game. The Revolution has a piece of the helmet that comes down over the cheek. It is made this way because a study was done by Ridell and they concluded that most concussions happen by being hit on the side of the head and from the jaw line. These helmets help to disperse the energy better.[/quote]
    sorry that should be Riddell

  • 13monkeys | December 1, 2006 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”25868″][quote comment=”25867″][quote comment=”25859″]In the 1928 Christy Razors picture, check out the player front and center. Is that eyeblack? If so it pre-dates Paul’s assertion from the ESPN article, “The earliest known instance of a player wearing eye black is Redskins fullback Andy Farkas, who apparently came up with the idea on his own in 1942.”[/quote]
    I say puffy eyelids. Or eye”unders”??[/quote]

    That’s what I thought at first too, but they are darker than anyone elses eyes on the team and much more square.[/quote]

    This could be the after effects of a broken nose which probably happened a lot more often in baseball when they had those old school gloves.

  • mg12 | December 1, 2006 at 10:38 am |

    Paul, what is the latest on the quiz? Have you had many entries yet?

  • dgc | December 1, 2006 at 10:39 am |

    Today’s Washington Post’s kids section has a little uni-critique. Looks like he doesn’t like mascots and a thumbs down on Les Boulez’s gold jerseys.
    Click here

  • Pat | December 1, 2006 at 10:41 am |

    [quote comment=”25886″]Since the NHL All-Star Game has become less about the best players playing hockey against one another and more about the players playing pond hockey and lighting the lamp, is it any wonder that the NHL wants to introduce another ridiculous element to the All-Star Weekend?

    Skill competition can stay, Fan and Media Scrums can stay. The old NHL All-Star Game jerseys were, for the most part, well-designed, and looked good. If you can have jerseys like this, this, this, or this, I say “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”.

    Thanks for ruining the way hockey looks, Reebok. Real classy move.[/quote]

    These are some of the ugliest uniforms ever. They have them hanging in Halftime Pizza across the street from the TD Banknorth Garden. Everytime I go in there I want to hurl from the site of those jerseys. Teal and purple with in the shape of a big star?

    And, if you’re going to have a big star that looks like it’s running over the shoulders to the back of the jersey why not finish the star on the other side instead of flattening it out. You still probably could have fir the name plate on there judging fron the size of this enormous star.

  • Pantherfid | December 1, 2006 at 10:44 am |

    OH MY GOD NO!!!!! It looks like Uniwatch Favorite, University of Oregon Ducks, have created a new uni for the upcoming Vegas Bowl. God help us all!

    I wonder if they will add sideburns to the helmet!?!

  • Paul Lukas | December 1, 2006 at 10:48 am |

    [quote comment=”25897″]Paul, what is the latest on the quiz? Have you had many entries yet?[/quote]

    As of right now, there are 41 entries (the first of which was submitted by Don Norwood roughly one hour after the quiz was posted). I’ve only looked at a couple of them, but new Uni Watch intern Vince Grzegorek will begin scoring/grading later today.

  • Broker75 | December 1, 2006 at 11:00 am |

    Coming from an original six fan, I am looking forward to the new sleek look jersey’s that the NHL are unveiling at the All Star Game at Dallas in January.

  • Miguel | December 1, 2006 at 11:03 am |

    [quote comment=”25853″]Anyone else notice that they’re playing with an AFL football (Arena League)?

    http://www.popwarner...

    It kind of looks like it, but it’s a Pop Warner ball.

  • Banker Bill | December 1, 2006 at 11:04 am |

    [quote comment=”25904″]Coming from an original six fan, I am looking forward to the new sleek look jersey’s that the NHL are unveiling at the All Star Game at Dallas in January.[/quote]

    As most folks on here now, I am a hockey nut – but I’ll hold off on judging the new jerseys until I see them. I’m more interested in teh updates on the padding. The jerseys can’t shock too much if you compare wjat New Era has done to baseball caps with their frequently discussed “interpretations” of team logos and alternative color choices.

  • Pantherfid | December 1, 2006 at 11:11 am |

    Are the Buffalo Bills going to be wearing their sweet throwbacks this weekend?

    These are some of the best throwbacks in the NFL (San Diego in the Powder Blues are still the best, Cleveland was nice last week too.)

  • Broker75 | December 1, 2006 at 11:14 am |

    The Atlanta Thrashers looked good in their uni’s Thursday night, they must’ve felt good too shutting out the Maple Leafs 5-0, whoa.

  • Banker Bill | December 1, 2006 at 11:17 am |

    [quote comment=”25908″]The Atlanta Thrashers looked good in their uni’s Thursday night, they must’ve felt good too shutting out the Maple Leafs 5-0, whoa.[/quote]
    The Thrashers wouls look better if they eliminated the stupid “ATLANTA” on only one arm. The color scheme is great, the logo leaves a little to be desired, but only having one sleeve different is really stupid.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | December 1, 2006 at 11:18 am |

    [quote comment=”25898″]Today’s Washington Post’s kids section has a little uni-critique. Looks like he doesn’t like mascots and a thumbs down on Les Boulez’s gold jerseys.
    Click here[/quote]

    from the article…
    The University of Oregon’s uniforms are a fashion nightmare. The Ducks wear green and yellow with some kind of crisscross pattern on the shoulders and knees.

    some kind of crisscross pattern? c’mon dude. its called diamond plate. you should know that if you are gonna write about it.

    im sure when the media wrote about the houndstooth trim on ‘bama’s unis they didnt refer to it as, “some kind repeating checkerboard design”

  • Jonathon | December 1, 2006 at 11:20 am |

    [quote comment=”25905″][quote comment=”25853″]Anyone else notice that they’re playing with an AFL football (Arena League)?

    http://www.popwarner...

    It kind of looks like it, but it’s a Pop Warner ball.[/quote]

    I stand corrected. Good call.

  • JimmyMac | December 1, 2006 at 11:22 am |

    Since the NHL All-Star Game has become less about the best players playing hockey against one another and more about the players playing pond hockey and lighting the lamp, is it any wonder that the NHL wants to introduce another ridiculous element to the All-Star Weekend?

    Skill competition can stay, Fan and Media Scrums can stay. The old NHL All-Star Game jerseys were, for the most part, well-designed, and looked good. If you can have jerseys like this, this, this, or this, I say “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”.

    Thanks for ruining the way hockey looks, Reebok. Real classy move.

    Tough to argue. Bettman. The League killer.

  • Brian | December 1, 2006 at 11:22 am |

    That kid in the ‘Bengals-esque’ helmet is rocking some baseball cleats.

  • GoTerriers | December 1, 2006 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”25910″]

    im sure when the media wrote about the houndstooth trim on ‘bama’s unis they didnt refer to it as, “some kind repeating checkerboard design”[/quote]

    As the risk of being labels the resident wise-ass on this subject, there are some who would tell you that the ‘Bama design was never houndstooth and, really is “some kind repeating [sic] checkerboard design”

  • Smail | December 1, 2006 at 11:36 am |

    Here’s a post I made to my personal blog about “Moore Goode Dick” back in October:

    “A little over a month ago, I posted a picture containing a number of Arkansas football players standing in a rather curious position. I have since discovered that said photo is too good to be true, and naught but a work of Le Photoshop.

    Upon looking the picture over, it jumps out at me that Clarke Moore’s nameplate has obviously been altered as it is much chunkier than the other two players’ nameplates. Why I didn’t notice that before is anyone’s guess. So what is player #65’s real name? Demarcus Love! Yes, if left unchanged, their nameplates would have read “Love Goode Dick” instead of the not-quite-as-funny “Moore Goode Dick.”

    However, this presents another conundrum. According to the player bio’s, D. Love is 6’5, while B. Goode and C. Dick come in at 6’1 and 6’2, respectively. Take another look at the picture and you will see that “Moore/Love” is actually much shorter than the other two players! So what’s going on here? My first thought was that the picture may have been taken from a previous year. However, there was no #65 on the Arkansas roster in 2005, or 2004, and back in 2003, B. Goode and C. Dick were not on the team. So, we’re left with player heights as our final clue to the mystery of the player on the left.

    There are only a handful of Razorbacks under 6’0, and an even smaller number who are of the caucasian persuasion indicated in the photo. It boils down to one of about three players, and I’m placing my vote for #59, Stephen Arnold. His hair color and sideburns match the picture, plus he’s the backup kicker; a player who would hangout along the sidelines with B. Goode (longsnapper) and C. Dick (backup QB). The linchpin of my decision is that the numbers 5 and 9 can be easily transposed, and the 9 flipped to give you 65. This obviously explains the Photoshoppery, as I think we can all agree, “Arnold Goode Dick” just isn’t very funny.”

  • Smail | December 1, 2006 at 11:42 am |

    re: #52

    Maybe an Arkansas fan can clear this up for me. When I made my original post in October, there was a Stephen Arnold who wore #59 listed on hogwild and on ESPN as the Razorbacks backup punter. Five minutes ago, when I went back looking for links to match the earlier post, he’s nowhere to be found. Did he transfer, or maybe lose eligibility?

  • joe | December 1, 2006 at 11:44 am |

    I always wondered what this was all about…and then noticed that the old St Louis Browns used a similar mascot. Apparently, I’m not up on my Brothers Grimm fairy tales. Just thought it was interesting.

  • Broker75 | December 1, 2006 at 11:46 am |

    [quote comment=”25912″]Since the NHL All-Star Game has become less about the best players playing hockey against one another and more about the players playing pond hockey and lighting the lamp, is it any wonder that the NHL wants to introduce another ridiculous element to the All-Star Weekend?

    Skill competition can stay, Fan and Media Scrums can stay. The old NHL All-Star Game jerseys were, for the most part, well-designed, and looked good. If you can have jerseys like this, this, this, or this, I say “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”.

    Thanks for ruining the way hockey looks, Reebok. Real classy move.

    Tough to argue. Bettman. The League killer.[/quote]

    I’m finding this hard to understand, probably because I dis-agree, but how did Reebok ruin the way hockey looks?, and how is Bettman The League Killer. If anything, Mr.Bettman is trying his a** off to sell this league where it would make the most money.
    And Reebok isn’t aiming for the “old” NHL fan, they want the free spending logo fanatic’s who buy merchandise for the name or latest look.

  • Cliff Rancho | December 1, 2006 at 11:47 am |

    How can you diss HomestarRunner/Strong Bad? Annoying? Never! It’s the best animation site out there. All free too, no advertising.

    Oh, and the kickoff temperature of the Monday night game was 34 degrees. Which is…of course, not THAT cold.

    Let me know when you start selling these… I’ll be the first one to buy it!

  • Broker75 | December 1, 2006 at 11:49 am |

    The Cleveland Browns are named after Charlie, in MY dream world.

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 11:50 am |

    [quote comment=”25899″]
    These are some of the ugliest uniforms ever. They have them hanging in Halftime Pizza across the street from the TD Banknorth Garden. Everytime I go in there I want to hurl from the site of those jerseys. Teal and purple with in the shape of a big star?

    And, if you’re going to have a big star that looks like it’s running over the shoulders to the back of the jersey why not finish the star on the other side instead of flattening it out. You still probably could have fir the name plate on there judging fron the size of this enormous star.[/quote]

    So do the San Jose Sharks make you hurl as well? The 94-97 All-Star Jerseys were introduced in NYC at MSG for the All-Star Game. They look far better than these ridiculous jerseys, far better than these jerseys, and 100 times better than Vancouver 1998 All-Star Game jerseys. Are those lines supposed to be like the 20th Century Fox lamps around the marquee?

  • ed gaug | December 1, 2006 at 11:53 am |

    This one was taken at my high school the year after i graduated and of course they finally upgraded the jerseys after 10 years.

  • ed gaug | December 1, 2006 at 11:55 am |
  • Riff | December 1, 2006 at 11:55 am |

    Yay! Paul, I’m excited to see that you have discovered the glorious world of Strongbad and Homestarrunner! (If it’s your first time, go here) I’m tellin’ you, this is quite possibly the second best website ever! (I think we all know what the best one is.)

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 11:57 am |

    [quote comment=”25919″]
    I’m finding this hard to understand, probably because I dis-agree, but how did Reebok ruin the way hockey looks?
    And Reebok isn’t aiming for the “old” NHL fan, they want the free spending logo fanatic’s who buy merchandise for the name or latest look.[/quote]

    The Original Six teams have remained virtually unchanged in their look for a long, long time. Any change to their jerseys should be met with criticism of the extreme variety. Hockey is game that honours its traditions. You don’t spit on the 80+ years of hockey history by redesigning the Canadiens jersey or the Maple Leafs jersey.

    Regardless of who Reebok is targetting with this stupid idea, you don’t see the Yankees wearing purple or teal because it’s “fashionable” (sorry, Paul), do you? Steinbrenner won’t even allow the jersey makers to have their logo on the jersey anywhere. Reebok needs to leave well-enough alone, and stick to making jerseys, not designing them. As for the people within the NHL who are supporting this “new jersey = new merchandise dollars” idea… they’re no better than Beaverton, Oregon.

  • Smail | December 1, 2006 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”25917″]re: #52

    Maybe an Arkansas fan can clear this up for me. When I made my original post in October, there was a Stephen Arnold who wore #59 listed on hogwild and on ESPN as the Razorbacks backup punter. Five minutes ago, when I went back looking for links to match the earlier post, he’s nowhere to be found. Did he transfer, or maybe lose eligibility?[/quote]

    Ok last one, I promise.

    Here is the original link I found to Stephen Arnold’s bio. http://arkansas.riva...
    It seems his number has been changed to #34, as evidenced here, although he is not listed on ESPN, or the official Alabama football roster at rolltide.com. There’s one other big change worth noting. There is no longer a Clarke Moore on the roster, but there is a Courtney Moore (who also wears #34), who is short enough to be the Moore in the picture. However, I have yet to find a picture of him, to verify ethnicity. I think the unfortunate habit of multiple and switching uni numbers will make this one just about impossible to shake out.

  • Bob in hopewell | December 1, 2006 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”25925″]Yay! Paul, I’m excited to see that you have discovered the glorious world of Strongbad and Homestarrunner! (If it’s your first time, go here) I’m tellin’ you, this is quite possibly the second best website ever! (I think we all know what the best one is.)[/quote]
    yeah it is, i have the StrongBad Messenger bag to use as a diaper bag

  • Riff | December 1, 2006 at 12:08 pm |

    I think these helmets displace Michigan/Princeton as the best of all time. Fresh without being gaudy, revolutionary while remaining classy. I love it!

  • Smail | December 1, 2006 at 12:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”25927″]

    Maybe an Arkansas fan can clear this up for me. When I made my original post in October, there was a Stephen Arnold who wore #59 listed on hogwired and on ESPN as the Razorbacks backup punter. Five minutes ago, when I went back looking for links to match the earlier post, he’s nowhere to be found. Did he transfer, or maybe lose eligibility?[/quote]

    Ok last one, I promise.

    Here is the original link I found to Stephen Arnold’s bio. http://arkansas.riva...
    It seems his number has been changed to #34, as evidenced here, although he is not listed on ESPN, or the official Alabama football roster at rolltide.com. There’s one other big change worth noting. There is no longer a Clarke Moore on the roster, but there is a Courtney Moore (who also wears #34), who is short enough to be the Moore in the picture. However, I have yet to find a picture of him, to verify ethnicity. I think the unfortunate habit of multiple and switching uni numbers will make this one just about impossible to shake out.[/quote]

    Or how about I’m an idiot who mixed up Alabama and Arkansas? And how about adding the ability to delete posts to cover this sort of idiocy in the future?

  • John from KY | December 1, 2006 at 12:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”25862″]Anyone know how many different types of facemasks and helmets Ocho Cinco has worn this yeah and why… It seems like a new one every week.[/quote]

    As others have mention, he was wearing a Riddell Revolution last night – it appears he has been wearing that helmet against the other AFC North teams.

    He has also worn a Schutt helmet (looked like a Pro Air II) but he has worn two different face masks with it – one is the typical QB/WR two-bar mask (with the extra side bars like Deon Sanders wore), the other is the oversized QB/RB/LB mask like Drew Brees, Alex Smith and Donovan McNabb (although it appears that McNabb wore the Riddell version of this style instead of the Schutt) wear.

  • ACC (the Brain) | December 1, 2006 at 12:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”25877″]Thumbs up to the new Dodgers road jersey. It is a nice improvement and is as close to Dodgers road jersey perfection as can be attained.[/quote]

    Agreed.

    Thumbs way up to new LA Dodgers threads.

    The white ‘outline’ marred the old unis.

  • ACC (the Brain) | December 1, 2006 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”25907″]Are the Buffalo Bills going to be wearing their sweet throwbacks this weekend?

    These are some of the best throwbacks in the NFL (San Diego in the Powder Blues are still the best, Cleveland was nice last week too.)[/quote]

    Don’t forget 49ers!

  • al | December 1, 2006 at 12:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”25907″]Are the Buffalo Bills going to be wearing their sweet throwbacks this weekend?

    These are some of the best throwbacks in the NFL (San Diego in the Powder Blues are still the best, Cleveland was nice last week too.)[/quote]
    What is the over/under on the amount of yardage gained by LT this Sunday, 350 ?
    It’s gonna be ugly.

  • al | December 1, 2006 at 12:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”25910″][quote comment=”25898″]Today’s Washington Post’s kids section has a little uni-critique. Looks like he doesn’t like mascots and a thumbs down on Les Boulez’s gold jerseys.
    Click here[/quote]

    from the article…
    The University of Oregon’s uniforms are a fashion nightmare. The Ducks wear green and yellow with some kind of crisscross pattern on the shoulders and knees.

    some kind of crisscross pattern? c’mon dude. its called diamond plate. you should know that if you are gonna write about it.

    im sure when the media wrote about the houndstooth trim on ‘bama’s unis they didnt refer to it as, “some kind repeating checkerboard design”[/quote]
    Don’t we have a moratorium on Houndstooth references on this blog ?

  • MArk | December 1, 2006 at 12:44 pm |

    MArk said:

    Just curious…why different letters on all the hats in that 1928 Christy Razors photo

    I believe that it is because my Great-grandfather did some recruiting from neighboring towns. Clyde, Sandusky, not quite sure about the W on the white hat though, with the F being Fremont.

    interesing that jerseys would change and not hats. pretty cool though.

  • Marc M. | December 1, 2006 at 12:46 pm |

    Hey Paul:

    You got a mention in the Wall Street Journal Online today. They even posted a link to uni watch.

  • Marc M. | December 1, 2006 at 12:47 pm |

    heres the link

  • Wise-man | December 1, 2006 at 12:47 pm |

    Speaking of NHL All-Star jerseys, it has come to my attention that the new ’06-’07 All-Star jerseys are just a rehash of the 2002-2003 jerseys only without the bottom stripe. Think about it.

  • bluenoser | December 1, 2006 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”25926″][quote comment=”25919″]
    I’m finding this hard to understand, probably because I dis-agree, but how did Reebok ruin the way hockey looks?
    And Reebok isn’t aiming for the “old” NHL fan, they want the free spending logo fanatic’s who buy merchandise for the name or latest look.[/quote]

    The Original Six teams have remained virtually unchanged in their look for a long, long time. Any change to their jerseys should be met with criticism of the extreme variety. Hockey is game that honours its traditions. You don’t spit on the 80+ years of hockey history by redesigning the Canadiens jersey or the Maple Leafs jersey.

    Regardless of who Reebok is targetting with this stupid idea, you don’t see the Yankees wearing purple or teal because it’s “fashionable” (sorry, Paul), do you? Steinbrenner won’t even allow the jersey makers to have their logo on the jersey anywhere. Reebok needs to leave well-enough alone, and stick to making jerseys, not designing them. As for the people within the NHL who are supporting this “new jersey = new merchandise dollars” idea… they’re no better than Beaverton, Oregon.[/quote]
    Couldn’t agree more Teebz, hockey is a game that is deeply rooted in tradition and if you read the reports of the “new jersey” unveiling one of the first lines reads “The NHL will be breaking with tradition….”. As for Gary Bettman, he is all about breaking with tradition, no fighting, no red-line, 2 referees, ugly jerseys, hockey in Nashville, etc etc etc. He is terrible for hockey, someone wake me when the nightmare is over!!

  • Smed | December 1, 2006 at 12:51 pm |

    I guess the people who complain about duplicate numbers need to get out into the world of D-3 more often. Wabash had over 110 players on the roster this year, so there has to be dupes. At times, Linfield and Mt. Union had THREE players wearing the same number because they have so many players. So it happens. We also were penalizied once for having two #42s in on the same punt – we blocked it and that’s how the officials found out.

  • Cork | December 1, 2006 at 12:52 pm |

    While researching the quiz, came across this great photo of Gerry Cheevers. Not sure if this accurate, but he may have been the first goalie to decorate his mask. He added “stitches” to every spot on his mask that got hit with a puck. This photo alone makes one wonder why it took goalies so long to start wearing masks.

  • Original Jim | December 1, 2006 at 12:52 pm |

    Official Pop Warner footballs were redesigned a few years ago. They mimic the Arena Football league balls, but with brown and black striping. I think this was a way to make the players feel more professional, by adding Pop Warner logos to the uniforms and using a somewhat unique ball.

    I should know. I am a referee.

    And I have a beard :)

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 1:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”25941″]As for Gary Bettman, he is all about breaking with tradition, no fighting, no red-line, 2 referees, ugly jerseys, hockey in Nashville, etc etc etc. He is terrible for hockey, someone wake me when the nightmare is over!![/quote]

    Some truth to this, but it’s not quite all him. The Competition Committee, composed of three voting groups, made most of these recommendations to the NHLPA and GMs. The voting members of the Committee are:

    – NHL players Rob Blake, Martin Brodeur, Jarome Iginla, Trevor Linden, and Brendan Shanahan.
    – GMs Bob Gainey (Mtl), Kevin Lowe (Edm), David Poile (Nas), and Don Waddell (Atl).
    – owner Ed Snider (Phi).

    The moderators are Colin Campbell, respresenting the NHL, and Mike Gartner, representing the NHLPA.

    Rules aren’t traditional in so much as the look of the NHL. There is always outcry at NHL uniform changes, but to radically change the look of teams who have been around for almost 100 years is blasphemous. If MLB forced the Yankees or Red Sox or Dodgers to radically change their uniform design, the backlash towards Selig would probably kill him.

  • al | December 1, 2006 at 1:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”25921″]The Cleveland Browns are named after Charlie, in MY dream world.[/quote]

    Thanks for that link, it literally made the last hour disappear. Awesome. you can really get lost in Schultz’ world…. funny stuff.

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 1:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”25943″]While researching the quiz, came across this great photo of Gerry Cheevers. Not sure if this accurate, but he may have been the first goalie to decorate his mask. He added “stitches” to every spot on his mask that got hit with a puck. This photo alone makes one wonder why it took goalies so long to start wearing masks.[/quote]

    The slapshot was a large reason goalies started wear masks. On November 1st, 1959, Plante stopped a shot with his unprotected face that required 200 stitches to repair. The mask he appeared on the ice with was one he had been wearing in practice since 1955. After returning to win the game against the Rangers by a score of 4-1, the Canadiens won 11 straight games and the Stanley Cup with Plante wearing the mask. He was supposed to stop wearing the mask once his face had healed, but refused to take it off for safety reasons.

    However, the man creditted with the “invention” of the slapshot, Bernie “Boom Boom” Geoffrion of the Montreal Canadiens, started playing in the league in 1951. The slapshot was used by few players early on, but after Geoffrion won the Art Ross Trophy with Montreal for most points in 1955, the slapshot was adopted by many.

    As you can see, 1955 was a critical year: Geoffrion uses the slapshot to win the award for best offensive player, and teammate Plante protects his face in practice against Geoffrion by wearing a mask.

  • Jeff I | December 1, 2006 at 1:23 pm |

    I feel really stupid for not mentioning the obvious, though it seems evident, that the rally helmet practice is only used during the shootout.

    Would not work to well with line changes on the fly!

    Also last night’s shootout went 7 rounds.

  • Pat | December 1, 2006 at 1:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”25922″][quote comment=”25899″]
    These are some of the ugliest uniforms ever. They have them hanging in Halftime Pizza across the street from the TD Banknorth Garden. Everytime I go in there I want to hurl from the site of those jerseys. Teal and purple with in the shape of a big star?

    And, if you’re going to have a big star that looks like it’s running over the shoulders to the back of the jersey why not finish the star on the other side instead of flattening it out. You still probably could have fir the name plate on there judging fron the size of this enormous star.[/quote]

    So do the San Jose Sharks make you hurl as well? The 94-97 All-Star Jerseys were introduced in NYC at MSG for the All-Star Game. They look far better than these ridiculous jerseys, far better than these jerseys, and 100 times better than Vancouver 1998 All-Star Game jerseys. Are those lines supposed to be like the 20th Century Fox lamps around the marquee?[/quote]

    Yes, the San Jose Sharks uniform is quite nauseating.

    I never said anything about the other uniforms as I don’t follow hockey that’s the first time I have never seen those.

  • Ryan Real | December 1, 2006 at 1:39 pm |

    I don’t know, I don’t think I’m a fan of the new Dodgers unis. They kind of look cheap, like rec-league jerseys. Maybe they’ll grow on me.

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 1:39 pm |

    A mention by the esteemed Paul Lukas (though I remember specifying it should be black) AND a link to Strongbad in one blog? Best. Blog. Entry. Ever.

    I disagree that the elimination of the piping on the Dodgers’ away jerseys make it look better. The jersey looks blah to me without it.

    Teebz. I feel your pain. The only consolation for me is that the North Stars did not live to see the day. It makes losing them…no, it doesn’t. Never mind.

    Burrill–I will be watching the Wild! hame tonight against your Winged Wheels (TM). Two nice unis with not-no-nice logos.

    Ok. I am off to buy UniWatch (TM) stuff. I foresee loved ones receiving UniWatch (TM) magnets—along with the tats—in their stockings this Christmas.

    Oh, and al, this is for you: Houndstooth will never die!

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 1:41 pm |

    That would be the Wild! game tonight. I have no idea what a hame is. My fingers typing too quickly, I guess.

  • scott | December 1, 2006 at 1:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”25933″][quote comment=”25877″]Thumbs up to the new Dodgers road jersey. It is a nice improvement and is as close to Dodgers road jersey perfection as can be attained.[/quote]

    Agreed.

    Thumbs way up to new LA Dodgers threads.

    I also like that the player names have returned to the style of each letter being stitched to the jersey, rather than to a nameplate. Wonderful, clean look.

    The white ‘outline’ marred the old unis.[/quote]

  • Kenny | December 1, 2006 at 1:49 pm |

    I have to agree with Ryan-I don’t like the Dodgers new uniforms at all. Taking out the white outline makes the jersey look to much like the cheap replica versions they sell at the local K-mart. If they really want to change their look, how about going back to the ’70s Garvery-era “Dodgers” with the white outline on their road unis? That’s when the Dodgers played their best anyway.

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 1:49 pm |

    Since it hasn’t been mentioned, if any of you get TSN by satellite or cable, I suggest tuning in tonight. For the first time ever during an NHL game, Christ Cuthbert and Glenn Healy, the broadcast team for TSN, will be broadcasting from directly between the benches. TSN and NBC have had colour guys down there before, but this will be an NHL first for an NHL broadcasting team.

    Read about it here.

  • scott | December 1, 2006 at 1:50 pm |

    Oops, this was my comment:

    I also like that the player names have returned to the style of each letter being stitched to the jersey, rather than to a nameplate. Wonderful, clean look.

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 1:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”25960″] Christ Cuthbert and Glenn Healy…[/quote]

    Um… that should be Chris, not Christ. He might know his stuff, but he’s not even close to being on that level.

    Sorry to all regarding my typo. Like Minna, my fingers are typing far too fast today. Six cups of coffee will do that to you. :o)

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | December 1, 2006 at 1:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”25938″]Hey Paul:

    You got a mention in the Wall Street Journal Online today. They even posted a link to uni watch.
    [/quote]

    [quote comment=”25939″]heres the link

    [/quote]

    so, what did it say in the journal online…

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”25962″][quote comment=”25960″] Christ Cuthbert and Glenn Healy…[/quote]

    Um… that should be Chris, not Christ. He might know his stuff, but he’s not even close to being on that level.

    Sorry to all regarding my typo. Like Minna, my fingers are typing far too fast today. Six cups of coffee will do that to you. :o)[/quote]

    Teebz, six cups????? What are you doing to yourself? My excuse is that I haven’t had my one cup yet, which I’m about to pour.

    p.s. It’s ok, Teebz. We know you think hockey is god (TM).

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”25964″]

    Teebz, six cups????? What are you doing to yourself? My excuse is that I haven’t had my one cup yet, which I’m about to pour.

    p.s. It’s ok, Teebz. We know you think hockey is god (TM).[/quote]

    It’s my religion, not God. But I’m sure he’s a fan too. ;o)

    As for the coffee, it’s the only thing that’s kept me awake for meetings I’ve been involved in over the last two days.

  • Paul Lukas | December 1, 2006 at 2:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”25964″]p.s. It’s ok, Teebz. We know you think hockey is god (TM).[/quote]

    OK, that’s it — enough with the TM symbols already, please.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | December 1, 2006 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”25962″]

    Sorry to all regarding my typo. Like Minna, my fingers are typing far too fast today. Six cups of coffee will do that to you. :o)[/quote]

    siX, htats nnothingg!!!! i havvvvvvvvve sssix cupppsof cofffeee by 9inthemorning. imat 3 potsrigh t now….

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”25966″][quote comment=”25964″]p.s. It’s ok, Teebz. We know you think hockey is god (TM).[/quote]

    OK, that’s it — enough with the TM symbols already, please.[/quote]

    Awright, Mr. Grumpy. I will put a moratorium on the trademark symbol unless it’s truly worranted.

    p.s. Tbeez, if god does watch hockey, shouldn’t it have better ratings?

  • Riff | December 1, 2006 at 2:12 pm |

    I don’t think the San Jose Sharks jerseys are all that bad. I kinda like the Broncos look on the hockey jersey. Though I think they do need to redo that chest logo, it looks minor-league and very mid-90’s.

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 2:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”25968″][quote comment=”25962″]

    Sorry to all regarding my typo. Like Minna, my fingers are typing far too fast today. Six cups of coffee will do that to you. :o)[/quote]

    siX, htats nnothingg!!!! i havvvvvvvvve sssix cupppsof cofffeee by 9inthemorning. imat 3 potsrigh t now….[/quote]

    todd, I’m surprised you can type at all! Sheesh. Maybe we need to start a coffee addict support group along with a uni-obseesed support group. Come to think of it, perhaps the two are related.

    This is way off topic, but more on target, if you get what I mean. I was disturbed by the Twins’ mock-up helmet on that helmet site posted yesterday. Their helmet would not be red, but blue. The red helmet did not look good at all (and I am strong proponent of the color red).

  • Ed R. | December 1, 2006 at 2:18 pm |

    I got my Uni-Watch tatoos today along with a hand written “Thank You” from Paul! Best five bucks I’ve spent in a while!

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 2:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”25969″]
    p.s. Teebz, if god does watch hockey, shouldn’t it have better ratings?[/quote]

    Not at all. He’s one being. He can’t change Neilsen’s system. ;o)

    And Todd, I’ll meet you at Starbucks later for as much caffeine as we can get. And an overspeed conversation on all things uniform.

  • Banker Bill | December 1, 2006 at 2:24 pm |

    Sharks logo – not bad at all – Sharks jersey with all the unnecessary piping and strange font for the names, no good – Black Sharks jersey – terrible.

    Teebz, you make me almost want to order the center ice package just to see this broadcast thing…plus I love Glen Healy. Remembere when he and Pat Flatley used to do “Heals and Flats”? Classic name for the two of them together – and they may be the only teammates to be teammates on botht he Rangers and the Islanders. Not sure if that’s true, but I can’t think of any others….

  • GoTerriers | December 1, 2006 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”25974″]Sharks logo – not bad at all – Sharks jersey with all the unnecessary piping and strange font for the names, no good – Black Sharks jersey – terrible.

    Teebz, you make me almost want to order the center ice package just to see this broadcast thing…plus I love Glen Healy. Remembere when he and Pat Flatley used to do “Heals and Flats”? Classic name for the two of them together – and they may be the only teammates to be teammates on botht he Rangers and the Islanders. Not sure if that’s true, but I can’t think of any others….[/quote]

    BB

    Flats and Pat Lafontaine might have missed each other by a year with the Rangers, but they’re the only other combo that comes immediately to mind

  • Tape | December 1, 2006 at 2:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”25970″] Though I think they do need to redo that chest logo, it looks minor-league and very mid-90’s.[/quote]

    funny thing about that…

  • Tape | December 1, 2006 at 2:35 pm |

    just a quick weigh-in on the Dodgers’ unis: great!

    that white outline looked like crap. nice, simple Dodger blue is all they need. now they look like the classy old-school team that they are.

  • Banker Bill | December 1, 2006 at 2:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”25975″][quote comment=”25974″]Sharks logo – not bad at all – Sharks jersey with all the unnecessary piping and strange font for the names, no good – Black Sharks jersey – terrible.

    Teebz, you make me almost want to order the center ice package just to see this broadcast thing…plus I love Glen Healy. Remembere when he and Pat Flatley used to do “Heals and Flats”? Classic name for the two of them together – and they may be the only teammates to be teammates on botht he Rangers and the Islanders. Not sure if that’s true, but I can’t think of any others….[/quote]

    BB

    Flats and Pat Lafontaine might have missed each other by a year with the Rangers, but they’re the only other combo that comes immediately to mind[/quote]
    Great question though isn’t it? I like to think of all the players who played for all 3 metro area teams (NYR, NYI, NJD) and it hit me that they are the only two that I can put as teammates on both teams.

  • Jon in SLC | December 1, 2006 at 2:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”25968″][quote comment=”25962″]

    Sorry to all regarding my typo. Like Minna, my fingers are typing far too fast today. Six cups of coffee will do that to you. :o)[/quote]

    siX, htats nnothingg!!!! i havvvvvvvvve sssix cupppsof cofffeee by 9inthemorning. imat 3 potsrigh t now….[/quote]

    See, I used to have the six cups of coffee thing going on but recently I have been able to keep it to 3 cups before noon. Then I switch over to the Red Bulls for the rest of the day. That’s healthier, right?

  • Mike Miller | December 1, 2006 at 2:38 pm |

    The Myrtle Beach Pelicans (Braves’ A affiliate) unveiled their new logo and uniform designs yesterday. Gone are black and teal replaced by powder blue and navy blue.

    Story

    Photo Gallery

    Some neat detail on the logo, the rope border around the outside and a cresent moon (from the SC state flag). Looks more like a hockey logo (substitute bat for hockey stick). Powder blue is becoming the new teal though. A mortitorium may be needed like, right now. The powder blue jersey with gold numbers and lettering looks pretty sharp though. The sleeveless regular unis will be nice for your average 85 degree/85% humidity night in South Carolina.

  • todd krevanchi | December 1, 2006 at 2:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”25973″]

    And Todd, I’ll meet you at Starbucks later for as much caffeine as we can get. And an overspeed conversation on all things uniform.[/quote]

    starbucks? shoot, id be happy with a 50 gallon drum of folgers crystals and some hot water, hanging in the rec room. but hell, lets face it, outside of the cast of “friends”, and “frasier” who gets together to hang out and drink, ahem, coffee… lets do 2 30 packs of miller lite, the carolina/kentucky game at noon, and then the army/navy game at 230… although i do have a ticket to the army/navy game if i want it…

  • GoTerriers | December 1, 2006 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”25978″]
    Great question though isn’t it? I like to think of all the players who played for all 3 metro area teams (NYR, NYI, NJD) and it hit me that they are the only two that I can put as teammates on both teams.[/quote]

    Great question, for sure and something else for me to obsess over now that I’ve turned in my Uni Quiz . . . (slow Friday in the office)

  • Burrill | December 1, 2006 at 2:42 pm |

    Minna, it looks like the Wings are at the Wild! tonight. Does that mean it’ll be the Wings’ whites against the Wild!’s Christmas unis? I wouldn’t mind that combination. Not at all.

    But tomorrow I have to go see the Sharks in person. Not sure about that. At least it’ll be the away Sharks unis. And the home Wings unis will be eye-catching enough to offset that.

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 2:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”25979″][quote comment=”25968″][quote comment=”25962″]

    Sorry to all regarding my typo. Like Minna, my fingers are typing far too fast today. Six cups of coffee will do that to you. :o)[/quote]

    siX, htats nnothingg!!!! i havvvvvvvvve sssix cupppsof cofffeee by 9inthemorning. imat 3 potsrigh t now….[/quote]

    See, I used to have the six cups of coffee thing going on but recently I have been able to keep it to 3 cups before noon. Then I switch over to the Red Bulls for the rest of the day. That’s healthier, right?[/quote]

    Jon in SLC, uh, no. Not only do you have the caffeine, you have the sugar! We need a t-shirt that says obsessive uni-watching and java-drinking. That would be funny.

  • Jon in SLC | December 1, 2006 at 2:47 pm |

    As a Dodgers faithful, I like the new away jersey. Reminds me of one of the best ever.

  • todd krevanchi | December 1, 2006 at 2:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”25979″]

    See, I used to have the six cups of coffee thing going on but recently I have been able to keep it to 3 cups before noon. Then I switch over to the Red Bulls for the rest of the day. That’s healthier, right?[/quote]

    its only healthier if you have half a can of red bull and you add either a shot of jaeger or a shot of cherry vodka, you know the jaegerbomb, and the cherry bomb! now thats healthy livin’!

  • Jon in SLC | December 1, 2006 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”25986″][quote comment=”25979″]

    See, I used to have the six cups of coffee thing going on but recently I have been able to keep it to 3 cups before noon. Then I switch over to the Red Bulls for the rest of the day. That’s healthier, right?[/quote]

    its only healthier if you have half a can of red bull and you add either a shot of jaeger or a shot of cherry vodka, you know the jaegerbomb, and the cherry bomb! now thats healthy livin’![/quote]

    Oh, you mean the Heart Attack Special. An EMT friend of mine said the alcohol slows the heart and the Red Bull speeds it up. The heart doesn’t know what to do. But, at least they taste great!

  • Thorold Blair | December 1, 2006 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”25918″]I always wondered what this was all about…and then noticed that the old St Louis Browns used a similar mascot. Apparently, I’m not up on my Brothers Grimm fairy tales. Just thought it was interesting.[/quote]

    The the actually look might have anything to do wtih the St. Louis Billiken

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”25980″]The Myrtle Beach Pelicans (Braves’ A affiliate) unveiled their new logo and uniform designs yesterday. Gone are black and teal replaced by powder blue and navy blue.

    Story

    Photo Gallery

    Some neat detail on the logo, the rope border around the outside and a cresent moon (from the SC state flag). Looks more like a hockey logo (substitute bat for hockey stick). Powder blue is becoming the new teal though. A mortitorium may be needed like, right now. The powder blue jersey with gold numbers and lettering looks pretty sharp though. The sleeveless regular unis will be nice for your average 85 degree/85% humidity night in South Carolina.[/quote]

    Mike Miller, it’s not powder blue; it’s Pelican Blue. Yeah, right. That’s powder blue if I’ve ever seen it. I am with you on the death knell for powder blue. To be fair, I never liked it in the first place, not even these:

    blech

    I like the logo (the pelican), though.

  • Ian K | December 1, 2006 at 2:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”25958″]I have to agree with Ryan-I don’t like the Dodgers new uniforms at all. Taking out the white outline makes the jersey look to much like the cheap replica versions they sell at the local K-mart. If they really want to change their look, how about going back to the ’70s Garvery-era “Dodgers” with the white outline on their road unis? That’s when the Dodgers played their best anyway.[/quote]

    I am also a little hesitant to endorse the new jerseys. They seem plain, but hopefully with pants and the whole uniform getup they look will better.

    I’m glad the nameplates are back though.

  • ACC (the Brain) | December 1, 2006 at 2:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”25970″]I don’t think the San Jose Sharks jerseys are all that bad. I kinda like the Broncos look on the hockey jersey. Though I think they do need to redo that chest logo, it looks minor-league and very mid-90’s.[/quote]

    Note that the Sharks altered their jerseys (not the logo)in the mid 90s and the current is an improvement

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 2:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”25983″]Minna, it looks like the Wings are at the Wild! tonight. Does that mean it’ll be the Wings’ whites against the Wild!’s Christmas unis? I wouldn’t mind that combination. Not at all.

    But tomorrow I have to go see the Sharks in person. Not sure about that. At least it’ll be the away Sharks unis. And the home Wings unis will be eye-catching enough to offset that.[/quote]

    Huh. I thought it was in Detroit, but I was wrong. That’s what I meant when I typed hame. Home + game = hame. That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it.

    I wish it could be red on red-and-green. That would be fantastic. Too bad you’re not going to tonight’s game (if it were in Detroit), Burrill. I could try to pick you out of the crowd in your Flying Wheels jersey and UnderArm, UnderAll, UnderWhatever hat.

    As for San Jose, at least it’s not, uh, um, uh….Well, at least you get to see your team play!

    Go red-and-green!

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”25981″][quote comment=”25973″]

    And Todd, I’ll meet you at Starbucks later for as much caffeine as we can get. And an overspeed conversation on all things uniform.[/quote]

    starbucks? shoot, id be happy with a 50 gallon drum of folgers crystals and some hot water, hanging in the rec room. but hell, lets face it, outside of the cast of “friends”, and “frasier” who gets together to hang out and drink, ahem, coffee… lets do 2 30 packs of miller lite, the carolina/kentucky game at noon, and then the army/navy game at 230… although i do have a ticket to the army/navy game if i want it…[/quote]

    hey, todd, am I invited even if I don’t drink beer? I’ll bring my own flank of rum-and-diet pop to keep me toasty. Party at todd’s place! (Closer to my beloved Troy P.).

    You are even hesitating to go to the Army/Navy game? You have to go! Think of the pomp! Think of the circumstance! Think of the uniformed soldiers who always watch!

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”25996″]I’ll bring my own flank of rum-and-diet pop to keep me toasty.[/quote]

    Flank? Too funny, Minna. :o)

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”25998″][quote comment=”25996″]I’ll bring my own flank of rum-and-diet pop to keep me toasty.[/quote]

    Flank? Too funny, Minna. :o)[/quote]

    Ooooh, Freudian slip. I’m hitting that java a bit too hard. I meant, flask, of course.

  • Robert | December 1, 2006 at 3:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”25958″]I have to agree with Ryan-I don’t like the Dodgers new uniforms at all. Taking out the white outline makes the jersey look to much like the cheap replica versions they sell at the local K-mart. If they really want to change their look, how about going back to the ’70s Garvery-era “Dodgers” with the white outline on their road unis? That’s when the Dodgers played their best anyway.[/quote]

    The team name should NEVER appear on the road jersey. The road jersey should be emblazoned with the name of the team’s city. I remember being pleased some years ago when the Dodgers finally put the “Los Angeles” back on the road uniform.

  • Marc M. | December 1, 2006 at 3:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”25963″][quote comment=”25938″]Hey Paul:

    You got a mention in the Wall Street Journal Online today. They even posted a link to uni watch.
    [/quote]

    [quote comment=”25939″]heres the link

    [/quote]

    so, what did it say in the journal online…[/quote]

    The article talked about college rules allowing for multiple teammates to wear the same number. At the end the reporter said he got it from the always entertaining Paul Lukas’ uniwatchblog.

  • STUBZ | December 1, 2006 at 3:13 pm |

    Are the Reds going to remove the black from their color scheme?

  • Paul Lukas | December 1, 2006 at 3:13 pm |

    For those who are wondering: The WSJournal mention that’s referenced in Comment #73 is from the WSJ’s “Daily Fix” sports blog. Basically, they just linked to this article and then said, “[We] found that one on Paul Lukas’s always-entertaining UniWatch blog.”

  • Burrill | December 1, 2006 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”25995″]I wish it could be red on red-and-green. That would be fantastic. Too bad you’re not going to tonight’s game (if it were in Detroit), Burrill. I could try to pick you out of the crowd in your Flying Wheels jersey and UnderArm, UnderAll, UnderWhatever hat.[/quote]

    I will be wearing a shirt with a Flight-Certified Wheels logo, but I may wear my Michigan helmet, just to be an oddball. Besides, hockey is a dangerous sport. Or so I will claim, if I wear it.

  • Jon in SLC | December 1, 2006 at 3:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”26002″]Are the Reds going to remove the black from their color scheme?[/quote]

    This says that “On Friday at approximately 5:50 p.m., the Reds will unveil their new uniforms for the 2007 season in a special fashion show”. Stay tuned.

  • todd krevanchi | December 1, 2006 at 3:27 pm |

    a. jon in slc- one of my friends did 8 jagerbombs in 1 minute 26 seconds, while another one paced himself to 17 jaegerbombs during 1 glorious sunday bender…

    b. thorold blair- ahhh, remember the good ole days of charlie spoonhour!

    c. minna- sure your invited!!! my dad has been wanting to go to the army/navy game his whole life and now at 58, he gets his wish… go midshipmen! it may be a gametime decision whether i go or not…

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 3:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”26004″][quote comment=”25995″]I wish it could be red on red-and-green. That would be fantastic. Too bad you’re not going to tonight’s game (if it were in Detroit), Burrill. I could try to pick you out of the crowd in your Flying Wheels jersey and UnderArm, UnderAll, UnderWhatever hat.[/quote]

    I will be wearing a shirt with a Flight-Certified Wheels logo, but I may wear my Michigan helmet, just to be an oddball. Besides, hockey is a dangerous sport. Or so I will claim, if I wear it.[/quote]

    I was going to suggest that helmet, but I didn’t want to appear disrespectful. You should post pics when you go.

    Speaking of dangerous sports: hockey-not-uni-related

    Just in case you need more justification to wear the Flying Wings helmet (reminds me of flying, for some reason).

    Flight-Certified Wheels. *snicker*

    Man, I love you guys! (The rum in my flank talking).

  • Broker75 | December 1, 2006 at 3:28 pm |

    Hopefully the Reds will alter their Chicago Bears “C” and come up with something similar their 1901 ball cap.

  • Robert | December 1, 2006 at 3:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”26006″][quote comment=”26002″]Are the Reds going to remove the black from their color scheme?[/quote]

    This says that “On Friday at approximately 5:50 p.m., the Reds will unveil their new uniforms for the 2007 season in a special fashion show”. Stay tuned.[/quote]

    As the self-declared number one Reds fan who posts here, this has me verrrrrrrry nervous.

  • Jeff Wilcox | December 1, 2006 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”25904″]Coming from an original six fan, I am looking forward to the new sleek look jersey’s that the NHL are unveiling at the All Star Game at Dallas in January.[/quote]

    I completely agree. And contrary to current opinion, the loose fitting sweater is a relatively recent style that came about with the bigger shoulder pads. Going to a more form fitting design is more traditional. I’ll reserve my judgement until I see it, but I’m looking forward to it.

  • Kerby | December 1, 2006 at 3:35 pm |

    I can’t believe that there isn’t more outrage regarding the duplicate uni numbers in college by uniwatch readers. It is so stupid. Why would any player want to share an “identity” with another player on the same roster? Ohio State does plenty of it and it drives me crazy. Who cares if a player has gotten attached to a certain number. If a number is taken, tell him to pick another one. End of conversation. I can’t believe Tress goes along with this.
    Speaking of Tress – does anyone know for sure what jersey color OSU is wearing for the national championship game? We would have the home jersey choice – but have won two straight bowls in AZ wearing white and I think they should wear white again.

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 3:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”26008″]a. jon in slc- one of my friends did 8 jagerbombs in 1 minute 26 seconds, while another one paced himself to 17 jaegerbombs during 1 glorious sunday bender…

    b. thorold blair- ahhh, remember the good ole days of charlie spoonhour!

    c. minna- sure your invited!!! my dad has been wanting to go to the army/navy game his whole life and now at 58, he gets his wish… go midshipmen! it may be a gametime decision whether i go or not…[/quote]

    todd, I can’t believe your friends are still alive. Man, that is some serious drinking.

    What could be more important than going to a game with your dad?

    Tickets: a zillion dollars.
    Tailgating beforehand: hundreds of dollars.
    Parking: hundreds of dollars.

    A lasting memory of shouting invectives with your father at the opposing team as it crushes the life out of you: priceless.

    I’ll bring the chips and dips, but not the new UniWatch truckers’ hat I’m buying because unless Paul drives it here himself, I won’t get it in time.

  • Jeff Wilcox | December 1, 2006 at 3:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”25922″][quote comment=”25899″]
    San Jose Sharks make you hurl as well? The 94-97 All-Star Jerseys were introduced in NYC at MSG for the All-Star Game. They look far better than these ridiculous jerseys, far better than these jerseys, and 100 times better than Vancouver 1998 All-Star Game jerseys. Are those lines supposed to be like the 20th Century Fox lamps around the marquee?[/quote]

    I loved those 2000 All star jersey’s. Dug the horizontal stripe, although it looked better on the White Goalie Sweater than the on the dark skaters.

  • Jon in SLC | December 1, 2006 at 3:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”26008″]a. jon in slc- one of my friends did 8 jagerbombs in 1 minute 26 seconds, while another one paced himself to 17 jaegerbombs during 1 glorious sunday bender…
    [/quote]

    Wow, Todd you guys are hardcore. Well if you ever make it to SLC, the drinks are on me. Then we’ll go see the Jazz play in the new Tox Box (formerly the Delta Center). Hopefully they will wear those sweet (barf) baby blues.

  • Chad G | December 1, 2006 at 3:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”25996″]
    hey, todd, am I invited even if I don’t drink beer? I’ll bring my own flank of rum-and-diet pop to keep me toasty. Party at todd’s place! (Closer to my beloved Troy P.).[/quote]

    Ha, thats kinda funny Minna. I have this friend and all she drinks is captain and cokes (or diet, but whatever). She goes so far as to carry her own fifth of Captain Morgans in her purse when we hang out.

    P.S. damn you midwesterners and your pop!

  • Dane | December 1, 2006 at 3:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”25960″]Since it hasn’t been mentioned, if any of you get TSN by satellite or cable, I suggest tuning in tonight. For the first time ever during an NHL game, Christ Cuthbert and Glenn Healy, the broadcast team for TSN, will be broadcasting from directly between the benches. TSN and NBC have had colour guys down there before, but this will be an NHL first for an NHL broadcasting team.

    Read about it here.[/quote]

    I would like to see it, but the TSN feed will be blocked out in the NY area. We’ll just have to hear how many times Joe Michiletti calls them the Islanders tonight. Over/under is 3.5.

  • Ian K | December 1, 2006 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”26011″][quote comment=”26006″][quote comment=”26002″]Are the Reds going to remove the black from their color scheme?[/quote]

    This says that “On Friday at approximately 5:50 p.m., the Reds will unveil their new uniforms for the 2007 season in a special fashion show”. Stay tuned.[/quote]

    As the self-declared number one Reds fan who posts here, this has me verrrrrrrry nervous.[/quote]

    I would be worried , Robert. A press conference on Friday after business hours? Classic spin control.

  • Dane | December 1, 2006 at 3:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”25969″]

    p.s. Tbeez, if god does watch hockey, shouldn’t it have better ratings?[/quote]

    Doesn’t fall into the all-important male 18-45 demographic.

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 3:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”26017″][quote comment=”25996″]
    hey, todd, am I invited even if I don’t drink beer? I’ll bring my own flank of rum-and-diet pop to keep me toasty. Party at todd’s place! (Closer to my beloved Troy P.).[/quote]

    Ha, thats kinda funny Minna. I have this friend and all she drinks is captain and cokes (or diet, but whatever). She goes so far as to carry her own fifth of Captain Morgans in her purse when we hang out.

    P.S. damn you midwesterners and your pop![/quote]

    Now, that is hardcore. Or is it just so hard to get rum where you are (where are you?) with your soda? I don’t have a flask, so I would have to rely on a thermos if I were to venture outside with my drink.

    We should have regional UniWatch parties, with or without Paul. Maybe we could have softball teams and elimination rounds and everything. Of course, we would never get past the ‘planning the uniform’ stage….

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”26016″][quote comment=”26008″]a. jon in slc- one of my friends did 8 jagerbombs in 1 minute 26 seconds, while another one paced himself to 17 jaegerbombs during 1 glorious sunday bender…
    [/quote]

    Wow, Todd you guys are hardcore. Well if you ever make it to SLC, the drinks are on me. Then we’ll go see the Jazz play in the new Tox Box (formerly the Delta Center). Hopefully they will wear those sweet (barf) baby blues.[/quote]

    Jon, how about Bo-Tox Box or De-Tox Box for the Utah….what marks Utah? Certainly not its jazz scene.

    Hey, if the Lawers ever return our name, they could be the Los Angeles Botoxes. It fits.

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”26015″]
    I loved those 2000 All star jersey’s. Dug the horizontal stripe, although it looked better on the White Goalie Sweater than the on the dark skaters.[/quote]

    The players looked like clowns.

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 3:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”26020″][quote comment=”25969″]

    p.s. Tbeez, if god does watch hockey, shouldn’t it have better ratings?[/quote]

    Doesn’t fall into the all-important male 18-45 demographic.[/quote]

    Dane, words of wisdom. But it begs the question: if hockey doesn’t appeal to males aged 18-45, why the hell not?

  • Jeff Wilcox | December 1, 2006 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”26023″][quote comment=”26015″]
    I loved those 2000 All star jersey’s. Dug the horizontal stripe, although it looked better on the White Goalie Sweater than the on the dark skaters.[/quote]

    The players looked like clowns.[/quote]

    Why?

  • Chad G | December 1, 2006 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”26021″][quote comment=”26017″][quote comment=”25996″]
    hey, todd, am I invited even if I don’t drink beer? I’ll bring my own flank of rum-and-diet pop to keep me toasty. Party at todd’s place! (Closer to my beloved Troy P.).[/quote]

    Ha, thats kinda funny Minna. I have this friend and all she drinks is captain and cokes (or diet, but whatever). She goes so far as to carry her own fifth of Captain Morgans in her purse when we hang out.

    P.S. damn you midwesterners and your pop![/quote]

    Now, that is hardcore. Or is it just so hard to get rum where you are (where are you?) with your soda? I don’t have a flask, so I would have to rely on a thermos if I were to venture outside with my drink.

    We should have regional UniWatch parties, with or without Paul. Maybe we could have softball teams and elimination rounds and everything. Of course, we would never get past the ‘planning the uniform’ stage….[/quote]

    No we have plently of rum. This is a friend I know back in New York. She just doesn’t like any short of alcohol or rum other than the Captain…yeah, it’s kinda weird. She doesn’t take it with her to bars though, that would be a little crazy. She just always has it when we’re hanging out at peoples places…beer is usually the drink of choice for the rest of us.

  • Jeff Wilcox | December 1, 2006 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”25926″][quote comment=”25919″]
    I’m finding this hard to understand, probably because I dis-agree, but how did Reebok ruin the way hockey looks?
    And Reebok isn’t aiming for the “old” NHL fan, they want the free spending logo fanatic’s who buy merchandise for the name or latest look.[/quote]

    The Original Six teams have remained virtually unchanged in their look for a long, long time. Any change to their jerseys should be met with criticism of the extreme variety. Hockey is game that honours its traditions. You don’t spit on the 80+ years of hockey history by redesigning the Canadiens jersey or the Maple Leafs jersey.

    Regardless of who Reebok is targetting with this stupid idea, you don’t see the Yankees wearing purple or teal because it’s “fashionable” (sorry, Paul), do you? Steinbrenner won’t even allow the jersey makers to have their logo on the jersey anywhere. Reebok needs to leave well-enough alone, and stick to making jerseys, not designing them. As for the people within the NHL who are supporting this “new jersey = new merchandise dollars” idea… they’re no better than Beaverton, Oregon.[/quote]

    Here’s what I don’t understand… From what I’ve heard, the fit of the jersey’s is going to change. Why would you think that would lead to some radical re-design of the traditional jersey’s and color changes? I’m just guessing since no one has seen them yet, but I bet the Habs jersey is going to look the same, just tighter. Why so alarmist?

  • Robert | December 1, 2006 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”26010″]Hopefully the Reds will alter their Chicago Bears “C” and come up with something similar their 1901 ball cap.[/quote]

    Ahem. The Reds were using the wishbone “C” long before the Bears’ franchise even existed.

  • Chip Bell | December 1, 2006 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”26019″][quote comment=”26011″][quote comment=”26006″][quote comment=”26002″]Are the Reds going to remove the black from their color scheme?[/quote]

    This says that “On Friday at approximately 5:50 p.m., the Reds will unveil their new uniforms for the 2007 season in a special fashion show”. Stay tuned.[/quote]

    As the self-declared number one Reds fan who posts here, this has me verrrrrrrry nervous.[/quote]

    I would be worried , Robert. A press conference on Friday after business hours? Classic spin control.[/quote]

    Reds Fest is being shown live on mlb.com, so we should be able to see the new uniforms as they are unveiled.

  • Jon in SLC | December 1, 2006 at 4:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”26022″][quote comment=”26016″][quote comment=”26008″]a. jon in slc- one of my friends did 8 jagerbombs in 1 minute 26 seconds, while another one paced himself to 17 jaegerbombs during 1 glorious sunday bender…
    [/quote]

    Wow, Todd you guys are hardcore. Well if you ever make it to SLC, the drinks are on me. Then we’ll go see the Jazz play in the new Tox Box (formerly the Delta Center). Hopefully they will wear those sweet (barf) baby blues.[/quote]

    Jon, how about Bo-Tox Box or De-Tox Box for the Utah….what marks Utah? Certainly not its jazz scene.

    Hey, if the Lawers ever return our name, they could be the Los Angeles Botoxes. It fits.[/quote]

    What marks Utah huh? Well, everyone knows about the mountains and the skiing, but in addition I would say 7-Elevens. We have a ton of them. More than any other place I have ever been. My dad (from California) remarks how they are on every corner. But how do we work that into a new NBA name? Hmmm, any suggestions?

  • Broker75 | December 1, 2006 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”26029″][quote comment=”26010″]Hopefully the Reds will alter their Chicago Bears “C” and come up with something similar their 1901 ball cap.[/quote]

    Ahem. The Reds were using the wishbone “C” long before the Bears’ franchise even existed.[/quote]
    Any proof?

  • Mark in Shiga | December 1, 2006 at 4:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”26021″]
    We should have regional UniWatch parties, with or without Paul. Maybe we could have softball teams and elimination rounds and everything. Of course, we would never get past the ‘planning the uniform’ stage….[/quote]

    If I’m in charge, the Japanese squad will be wearing these.

    And I always liked those hockey All-Star jerseys with the player names underneath the numbers. A slightly different look, and it made teh number more prominent than the name. Has any baseball tean done that other than the Reds in the 1960s?

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”26028″]Why so alarmist?[/quote]

    Reebok radically changed the practice jerseys already, and the Dallas Stars have already announced they have to eliminate the star on their jersey for the new template to work. As you have seen with the Barney Rubble Hairpieces jerseys, no hem striping, and that was always a vital piece to an NHL jersey.

    The issue? Templates. No longer can a team be “unique” with their design. It has to follow the template. Be gone, tradition and history. Reebok has proved that the almighty dollar is far more important than the integrity of the game.

  • GoTerriers | December 1, 2006 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”26034″][quote comment=”26029″][quote comment=”26010″]Hopefully the Reds will alter their Chicago Bears “C” and come up with something similar their 1901 ball cap.[/quote]

    Ahem. The Reds were using the wishbone “C” long before the Bears’ franchise even existed.[/quote]
    Any proof?[/quote]

    From Chicagobears.com

    “The Bears trademark ‘C’ logo appeared on helmets in 1962 and its use continues through present day although the mark has changed from white to orange and the shape has changed slightly. After 11 years, the white ‘C’ logo is colored orange with white trim in 1973 and still has the same look today.”

    1913 Cincinatti Reds from the Baseball HOF “Dressed to the Nines” exhibit.

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 4:31 pm |

    Has anyone noticed that all the current color/studio guys were, at one point, teammates by degrees of seperation? Kelly Hrudey (CBC), Glenny Healy (TSN), Tie Domi (TSN), Pat Flatley, Bil Berg (NHL Network), Ed Olczyk (NHL on NBC), Ray Ferraro (NHL on NBC), Greg Millen (CBC), and Nick Kypreos (Rogers Sportsnet) all fit the pattern. Heck, even Cammi Granato (NHL on NBC) does!

    Check it out here.

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 4:33 pm |

    Glenn Healy and Bill Berg, that is. I’m off the coffee as of right now.

  • tessa | December 1, 2006 at 4:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”25973″][quote comment=”25969″]
    p.s. Teebz, if god does watch hockey, shouldn’t it have better ratings?[/quote]

    Not at all. He’s one being. He can’t change Neilsen’s system. ;o)
    [/quote]

    Of course, if you are Catholic, you can count Him (or Her) for three in the ratings.

  • todd krevanchi | December 1, 2006 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”26014″]
    What could be more important than going to a game with your dad?

    Tickets: a zillion dollars.
    Tailgating beforehand: hundreds of dollars.
    Parking: hundreds of dollars.
    [/quote]

    the fact that the term zillion comes into play, thats why im not going… maybe next year… lincoln financial field is only an hour away, and jim’s steaks on south street is on the way home…

    [quote comment=”26016″]
    Wow, Todd you guys are hardcore. Well if you ever make it to SLC, the drinks are on me.[/quote]

    yeah, we do it up pretty good here, a dozen bars and social clubs in a town with 2 active stop lights. in our town they say we care about neither our lungs, nor our liver, nor our lips. (smoking, drinking, dipping)(i dont smoke though)
    i’ve been to orem and ogden as well as salt lake. its like barbie and ken out there! are there any people of color there outside of the college teams and the jazz? and the drinking! i had to join these clubs just to drink for a week! it was weird…

    [quote comment=”26017″]
    P.S. damn you midwesterners and your pop![/quote]

    they say pop in pittsburgh and ohio, and i still cant get it in my mind that they mean soda…

    [quote comment=”26021″]
    We should have regional UniWatch parties, with or without Paul. Maybe we could have softball teams and elimination rounds and everything. Of course, we would never get past the ‘planning the uniform’ stage….[/quote]

    on my site, niketalk, people have regional get togethers, quite often. they call them summitts. all over the US and in other continents as well… it doesnt hurt that there are nearly 54 thousand registered members, and who knows how many are not registered. our site is currently divided into 10 different regions including, canada and the phillipines.

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 4:38 pm |

    I’m a free agent in terms of a region. No one else from my city that I know of even comments on this site. And I’m a pretty good softball player. ;o)

    I’ll start the bidding for my services at $1 and a six-pack of your best regional beer.

  • tessa | December 1, 2006 at 4:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”25868″][quote comment=”25867″][quote comment=”25859″]In the 1928 Christy Razors picture, check out the player front and center. Is that eyeblack? If so it pre-dates Paul’s assertion from the ESPN article, “The earliest known instance of a player wearing eye black is Redskins fullback Andy Farkas, who apparently came up with the idea on his own in 1942.”[/quote]
    I say puffy eyelids. Or eye”unders”??[/quote]

    That’s what I thought at first too, but they are darker than anyone elses eyes on the team and much more square.[/quote]

    I am pretty sure that the “eye black” is the shadow of the cap’s brim. This accounts for it appearing to be square, and it accounts for it looking different on some players (depending on their position in the photo).

  • Jeff Wilcox | December 1, 2006 at 4:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”26036″][quote comment=”26028″]Why so alarmist?[/quote]

    Reebok radically changed the practice jerseys already, and the Dallas Stars have already announced they have to eliminate the star on their jersey for the new template to work. As you have seen with the Barney Rubble Hairpieces jerseys, no hem striping, and that was always a vital piece to an NHL jersey.

    The issue? Templates. No longer can a team be “unique” with their design. It has to follow the template. Be gone, tradition and history. Reebok has proved that the almighty dollar is far more important than the integrity of the game.[/quote]

    You seem to be jumping to conclussions that every team will have the same design like Nike College football teams.

    They are changing the fit, not design. Because of the new fit, will some design be affected? Sure. No more hemline design, which I would hardly call vital, and Dallas can’t do their design because it impacts the hemline, but that doesn’t mean team’s can’t be unique in their design or keep the design they have now. Montreal will have the same logo, so will the leafs, so will the rangers, so tradition seems intact to me.

    Being from Buffalo, I hate that new logo, but that was the organization’s choice. The Owner wanted a completely new logo, and he got one. On the other hand, I love that front uni number, which is completely unique.

    And I just don’t see how a tighter Jersey impacts the integrity of the game. A new fitted jersey, that fits better over modern equipment doesn’t affect the integrity of the game at all in my opinion.

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”26032″]

    What marks Utah huh? Well, everyone knows about the mountains and the skiing, but in addition I would say 7-Elevens. We have a ton of them. More than any other place I have ever been. My dad (from California) remarks how they are on every corner. But how do we work that into a new NBA name? Hmmm, any suggestions?[/quote]

    How about the Utah Conveniences?

    Mark in Shiga said:

    If I’m in charge, the Japanese squad will be wearing these.
    You’re hired.

    tessa said:

    Teebz said:

    Minna H said:

    p.s. Teebz, if god does watch hockey, shouldn’t it have better ratings?

    Not at all. He’s one being. He can’t change Neilsen’s system. ;o)

    Of course, if you are Catholic, you can count Him (or Her) for three in the ratings.

    So are you.

    todd k. said:

    on my site, niketalk, people have regional get togethers, quite often. they call them summitts. all over the US and in other continents as well… it doesnt hurt that there are nearly 54 thousand registered members, and who knows how many are not registered. our site is currently divided into 10 different regions including, canada and the phillipines.

    Excellent. We can call them conferences. We’ll have to work on this.

    Teebz said:

    I’m a free agent in terms of a region. No one else from my city that I know of even comments on this site. And I’m a pretty good softball player. ;o)

    I’ll start the bidding for my services at $1 and a six-pack of your best regional beer.

    Nonsense, Teebz. You are in my conference because you are on top of me—geographically-speaking. Besides, I have this—it’s from the land of sky-blue waters!

  • tessa | December 1, 2006 at 4:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”25926″][quote comment=”25919″]
    I’m finding this hard to understand, probably because I dis-agree, but how did Reebok ruin the way hockey looks?
    And Reebok isn’t aiming for the “old” NHL fan, they want the free spending logo fanatic’s who buy merchandise for the name or latest look.[/quote]

    The Original Six teams have remained virtually unchanged in their look for a long, long time. Any change to their jerseys should be met with criticism of the extreme variety. Hockey is game that honours its traditions. You don’t spit on the 80+ years of hockey history by redesigning the Canadiens jersey or the Maple Leafs jersey.
    [/quote]

    An excellent reason to be wary of big changes in hockey uniforms. (Link from SI’s “Sports Fashion Mis-statements” photo essay)

  • todd krevanchi | December 1, 2006 at 5:14 pm |

    softball huh?
    as a former fastpitch player and current modified and unlimited slo-pitch player i would be interested. however, i like my pants long. david wright long. so i’ll probably be on the bench.

    putting together uniforms for a team made up of members of this site? god, thats an undertaking!
    i couldnt imagine the scrutiny that would go on.

    if i were to design it, it would be white w/ maroon pinstripe pants (or white with a single bit of maroon piping down the sides. with a maroon jersey. the uni watch logo (seen above, yellow text, with the green outline, but no drop shadow, i hate drop shadow!) with a yellow and green outline number in the lower left torso (think astros).

  • Chuck Ryals | December 1, 2006 at 5:15 pm |

    Dodgers new road unis look great because they got rid of the piping. Piping on baseball jerseys remind me too much of pajamas!

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”26050″]
    They are changing the fit, not design. Because of the new fit, will some design be affected? Sure. No more hemline design, which I would hardly call vital, and Dallas can’t do their design because it impacts the hemline, but that doesn’t mean team’s can’t be unique in their design or keep the design they have now. Montreal will have the same logo, so will the leafs, so will the rangers, so tradition seems intact to me.
    [/quote]

    A logo does not define a team. Otherwise, remove the pinstripes from the Yankees.

    The hemline stripe has been on NHL jerseys since the 1920s. The Canadiens have always had a stripe. Toronto’s jerseys have barely changed from the 1930s. And why is Reebok so dead-set on tucking in the jerseys? If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

    Reebok is to the NHL as much as Nike is to college football. Excuse the sarcasm, but all love what Nike did to college football jerseys.

  • JimmyMac | December 1, 2006 at 5:22 pm |

    Hockey is in the toilet. A great (I really mean) great game detroy by Stern’s NBA Entertainment lawyer (true).

    Since Bettman took over hockey has seen the following catastrophic events:

    1. Lost an entire season to a player lockout.
    2. Ratings: Down.
    3. Attendance: Down in ALL major markets.
    4. Q ratings (player awareness) : Name 3 players on the Blue Jackets (Blue Jackets, who are they?)
    5. Look of the game: Sabres, Ducks, black jerseys.
    6. FOX trak glowing puck: On GB’s clock.
    7. Rules (Campbell reports in to Bettman)
    8. Shoot out? Silly soccer crap.
    9. Dasherboard signage (where’s the puck?)
    10. Canadian market: slipping south.

    I used to absolutely adore the great game of hockey. Now you cannot pay me to attend a game and the local team the Blackhawks, an amazing history can’t draw 7,000 fans a game… it’s sad, pathetic tragic and then here comes Reebok…the only outfitter WORSE than NIKE…

    Blame the guy at the top, Commissioner Bettman.

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 5:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”26056″]softball huh?
    as a former fastpitch player and current modified and unlimited slo-pitch player i would be interested. however, i like my pants long. david wright long. so i’ll probably be on the bench.

    putting together uniforms for a team made up of members of this site? god, thats an undertaking!
    i couldnt imagine the scrutiny that would go on.

    if i were to design it, it would be white w/ maroon pinstripe pants (or white with a single bit of maroon piping down the sides. with a maroon jersey. the uni watch logo (seen above, yellow text, with the green outline, but no drop shadow, i hate drop shadow!) with a yellow and green outline number in the lower left torso (think astros).[/quote]

    Gotta have black in it, or I’m taking my conferences and going home. I’m with you on the no drop shadow, but I’m not for the excessive use of yellow—it clashes with my skin. Still, the basic premise is sound. Maybe we can add regional accents—such as a lake to the Midwestern logo. In fact, we can put the UniWatch logo in a lake! Now I’m excited. Any Photoshop-heads out there willing to do some mock-ups?

    p.s. I’m not the greatest hitter, but I wield a mean glove.

  • Burrill | December 1, 2006 at 5:28 pm |

    Minna, I am planning to take my camera to the game, but the Wings have an unpleasantly specific camera policy, so I have to figure out which lens to take. I prefer Comerica Park, where they really don’t care what gear you bring as long as you stay in your seat and don’t use a tripod.

  • MikeR | December 1, 2006 at 5:39 pm |

    Uni Watchers of the world…UNITE!
    NO, NO, NO, NO, NO should this EVER happen! Start writing those letters and emails to each commissioner’s office today.

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 5:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”26061″]Minna, I am planning to take my camera to the game, but the Wings have an unpleasantly specific camera policy, so I have to figure out which lens to take. I prefer Comerica Park, where they really don’t care what gear you bring as long as you stay in your seat and don’t use a tripod.[/quote]

    Why is that, Burrill? Are they afraid of…bootleg photos? Disturbances? What? That is strange. Well, do the best you can to capture the Flying Wheel awash in a sea of red. Oh, and you can be official cameraman for the Midwestern Conference—when you’re not pitching, of course. Hopefully, you will not run into Kenny Rogers–or vice-versa.

  • Jeff I | December 1, 2006 at 5:49 pm |

    Looks like thr new Reds unis have hit the MLB stores a few minutes early

    http://mlb.imageg.ne...

    http://mlb.imageg.ne...

    http://mlb.imageg.ne...

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 5:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”26059″]

    1. Lost an entire season to a player lockout.[/quote]

    This was essential to control league-spending and players’ salaries. This was hardly catastrophic as the NHL has come back better than what it was before.

    [quote comment=”26059″]2. Ratings: Down.
    3. Attendance: Down in ALL major markets.
    4. Q ratings (player awareness) : Name 3 players on the Blue Jackets (Blue Jackets, who are they?)[/quote]

    Pascal Leclaire, Rick Nash, David Vyborny, Espen Knutsen, Rostislav Klesla, Adam Foote, Sergei Fedorov, Manny Malhotra. Is that enough?
    [quote comment=”26059″]5. Look of the game: Sabres, Ducks, black jerseys.[/quote]

    Ownership changes, not Bettman, prompted these changes.
    [quote comment=”26059″]6. FOX trak glowing puck: On GB’s clock.[/quote]

    A brutal idea, yes. But you can’t fault him for trying to use technology to make the game better. The other leagues have tried things as well that failed miserably.

    [quote comment=”26059″]7. Rules (Campbell reports in to Bettman)[/quote]

    Most of the new rules were put in place by the Competition Committee made up of players, GMs and an owner. Colin Campbell hands down disciplinary action, not rule changes.

    [quote comment=”26059″]8. Shoot out? Silly soccer crap.[/quote]

    But far more entertaining for the fans. And allows for the players to be creative and have some fun. It’s not life or death like the Olympics, but it’s a fun and exciting way to earn an extra crucial point.

    [quote comment=”26059″]9. Dasherboard signage (where’s the puck?)[/quote]

    Signage on and around the boards has been there since before Bettman took over.

    [quote comment=”26059″]10. Canadian market: slipping south.[/quote]

    The markets that Quebec City and Winnipeg moved into are bigger than the ones they left. Have you been to Toronto? You can’t get a ticket from a ticket booth, and scalpers want no less than $500 per ticket. Why? Because the passion is still there.

    [quote comment=”26059″]I used to absolutely adore the great game of hockey. Now you cannot pay me to attend a game and the local team the Blackhawks, an amazing history can’t draw 7,000 fans a game… it’s sad, pathetic tragic and then here comes Reebok…the only outfitter WORSE than NIKE…

    Blame the guy at the top, Commissioner Bettman.[/quote]

    The guy who owns the Blackhawks is to blame, not Bettman. Bettman is the commissioner. He works for the owners. If Wirtz wasn’t such a moron, his team wouldn’t be in the position it is today. Your GMs and the owner are squarely to blame for the sorry state of affairs in Chicago, not the Commish of the NHL.

  • tim | December 1, 2006 at 5:55 pm |

    Not much of a change for the reds, just the font. No more vest jerseys though, so thats kinda cool.

  • David | December 1, 2006 at 5:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”26067″]Not much of a change for the reds, just the font. No more vest jerseys though, so thats kinda cool.[/quote]

    Not much of a change? They are completely different in almost every respect. No pinstripes, no sleeveless, all red home cap, GREATLY reduced black, Mr. Red returns. On a possitive note, the aways look really nice, on a negative note…WHY THE PIPING?

  • MetsFan AZ | December 1, 2006 at 6:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”26067″]Not much of a change for the reds, just the font. No more vest jerseys though, so thats kinda cool.[/quote]
    That was one of the few vests I liked. The Reds, Pirates, Old A’s unis, that’s about it. Also, tight fitting shirts underneath the vests don’t look good, especially the dot matrix pattern.

  • Jeff Wilcox | December 1, 2006 at 6:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”26058″][quote comment=”26050″]
    They are changing the fit, not design. Because of the new fit, will some design be affected? Sure. No more hemline design, which I would hardly call vital, and Dallas can’t do their design because it impacts the hemline, but that doesn’t mean team’s can’t be unique in their design or keep the design they have now. Montreal will have the same logo, so will the leafs, so will the rangers, so tradition seems intact to me.
    [/quote]

    A logo does not define a team. Otherwise, remove the pinstripes from the Yankees.

    The hemline stripe has been on NHL jerseys since the 1920s. The Canadiens have always had a stripe. Toronto’s jerseys have barely changed from the 1930s. And why is Reebok so dead-set on tucking in the jerseys? If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

    Reebok is to the NHL as much as Nike is to college football. Excuse the sarcasm, but all love what Nike did to college football jerseys.[/quote]

    I’ll absolutely grant you the point of the logo not being the ultimately defining thing about a team, but there is a difference between the yankees, who are known for their pinstripes, and any hockey team, none of which are known for the hemline stripe. Teams went years without a stripe at all, including the Leafs and Habs. Granted that most teams had a stripe. The fact of the matter is that I’m attached to it as a design element.

    I just have an open mind to the jersey’s. Maybe I will hate them, but I’m not opposed to change, so I’m willing to see them before casting judgement.

  • Dane | December 1, 2006 at 6:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”26025″][quote comment=”26020″][quote comment=”25969″]

    p.s. Tbeez, if god does watch hockey, shouldn’t it have better ratings?[/quote]

    Doesn’t fall into the all-important male 18-45 demographic.[/quote]

    Dane, words of wisdom. But it begs the question: if hockey doesn’t appeal to males aged 18-45, why the hell not?[/quote]

    Sorry, that joke misfired. I wanted to indicate that God(TM) doesn’t fall into the 18-45 demographic, which is why it doesn’t help the ratings.

    (insert Opie & Anthony car crash sound here)

  • MikeR | December 1, 2006 at 6:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”26068″][quote comment=”26067″]Not much of a change for the reds, just the font. No more vest jerseys though, so thats kinda cool.[/quote]

    Not much of a change? They are completely different in almost every respect. No pinstripes, no sleeveless, all red home cap, GREATLY reduced black, Mr. Red returns. On a possitive note, the aways look really nice, on a negative note…WHY THE PIPING?[/quote]

    As a Red fanatic, I like the changes. Its a quality update with a nod toward the past. Very appropriate for MLB’s oldest franchise, in my opinion. The re-introduction of Mr. Redlegs is totally AWESOME!

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 6:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”26071″]
    I just have an open mind to the jersey’s. Maybe I will hate them, but I’m not opposed to change, so I’m willing to see them before casting judgement.[/quote]

    Open minds are the only thing anyone can have. However, unless a change is necessary, why make one? I oppose the change for three reasons:

    1. Tradition.
    2. Unnecessary “Nike” tactics.
    3. Cash-grab.

  • JimmyMac | December 1, 2006 at 6:21 pm |

    The lockout.
    This was hardly catastrophic as the NHL has come back better than what it was before.
    It is? Hardly. You’re in minority who think so.

    2. Ratings: Down.
    No comment?
    3. Attendance: Down in ALL major markets.
    No comment?

    4. Q ratings (player awareness) : Name 3 players on the Blue Jackets (Blue Jackets, who are they?)

    Pascal Leclaire, Rick Nash, David Vyborny, Espen Knutsen, Rostislav Klesla, Adam Foote, Sergei Fedorov, Manny Malhotra.

    Is that enough? Yep. My point exactly. OK Federov I get…what city is it? Cincinnati?

    5. Look of the game: Sabres, Ducks, black jerseys.
    Ownership changes, not Bettman, prompted these changes.
    Changes still run through the league office I assume…

    6. FOX trak glowing puck: On GB’s clock.
    A brutal idea, yes. But you can’t fault him for trying to use technology to make the game better. The other leagues have tried things as well that failed miserably.
    The yellow 1st down marker on the football field has failed? It’s awesome invention…

    7. Rules (Campbell reports in to Bettman)
    Most of the new rules were put in place by the Competition Committee made up of players, GMs and an owner. Colin Campbell hands down disciplinary action, not rule changes. Huh?

    8. Shoot out? Silly soccer crap.
    But far more entertaining for the fans. And allows for the players to be creative and have some fun. It’s not life or death like the Olympics, but it’s a fun and exciting way to earn an extra crucial point.
    Nothing says gimmick more than “it’s not life or death…”

    9. Dasherboard signage (where’s the puck?)
    Signage on and around the boards has been there since before Bettman took over.
    Doesn’t mean he should’nt/can’t fix it…

    10. Canadian market: slipping south.
    The markets that Quebec City and Winnipeg moved into are bigger than the ones they left. Have you been to Toronto? You can’t get a ticket from a ticket booth, and scalpers want no less than $500 per ticket. Why? Because the passion is still there.
    An option to the Raptors or the Blue Jays.

    Fully agree with you on the Blackhawks…

    My opinion //Hockey is broke and Bettman.

    JimmyMac said:

  • David | December 1, 2006 at 6:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”26075″][quote comment=”26068″][quote comment=”26067″]Not much of a change for the reds, just the font. No more vest jerseys though, so thats kinda cool.[/quote]

    Not much of a change? They are completely different in almost every respect. No pinstripes, no sleeveless, all red home cap, GREATLY reduced black, Mr. Red returns. On a possitive note, the aways look really nice, on a negative note…WHY THE PIPING?[/quote]

    As a Red fanatic, I like the changes. Its a quality update with a nod toward the past. Very appropriate for MLB’s oldest franchise, in my opinion. The re-introduction of Mr. Redlegs is totally AWESOME![/quote]

    I love everything about them, but for whatever reason the home jersey looked weird with the red piping. It may just be because they were wearing colored shirts under them that were white so you don’t get any contrast from an undershirt.

    I love the change, I am just standing back on the home unis until I see some photo shoot of the players in full unis including undershirts. That may be what seems strange right now.

  • Jeff Wilcox | December 1, 2006 at 6:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”26076″]

    Open minds are the only thing anyone can have. However, unless a change is necessary, why make one? I oppose the change for three reasons:

    1. Tradition.
    2. Unnecessary “Nike” tactics.
    3. Cash-grab.[/quote]

    1. Traditionally, the sweaters fit tighter than they do now. It’s only been since the 80’s that they started getting loose. That’s why they had to start mandating equipment tie downs.

    2. Can you define these tactics? What specifically do you mean.

    3. I think that it’s less a cash grab and more a marketing measure. Hockey players are some of the strongest, fittest athletes out there, but you wouldn’t know it from the formless jersey.

  • Dave | December 1, 2006 at 7:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”26067″]Not much of a change for the reds, just the font. No more vest jerseys though, so thats kinda cool.[/quote]

    I like the new-old look. Double knit for the new millenium. But what happened to the blue they were talking about?

  • JJD | December 1, 2006 at 7:35 pm |

    I’m bummed because I thought today’s column was going to answer my “why does Adam “Pac-Man” Jones wear a jersey that says ‘P. Jones’ and not ‘A. Jones'”-question.

  • MikeR | December 1, 2006 at 7:40 pm |

    David,

    I had a bit of the same reaction, but I think its because I’m so used to the sleeveless unis they’ve been using since they changed the pinstripe unis in the 90’s. The change is a bit of a knock-off of the Tigers layout, but that’s not a bad thing. There are too many pinstriped and sleeveless “template” (for lack of a better word) uniforms used in baseball. Don’t get me wrong, pinstriped and sleeveless unis are good. I just think the piping used by the Reds harken to the classics like the Tigers and Red Sox home unis; teams that, collectively with the Reds, have a long standing tradition and history.

  • David | December 1, 2006 at 7:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”26089″]David,

    I had a bit of the same reaction, but I think its because I’m so used to the sleeveless unis they’ve been using since they changed the pinstripe unis in the 90’s. The change is a bit of a knock-off of the Tigers layout, but that’s not a bad thing. There are too many pinstriped and sleeveless “template” (for lack of a better word) uniforms used in baseball. Don’t get me wrong, pinstriped and sleeveless unis are good. I just think the piping used by the Reds harken to the classics like the Tigers and Red Sox home unis; teams that, collectively with the Reds, have a long standing tradition and history.[/quote]

    I have been looking at the uniforms on and off all night and I am starting to come around to the home uniforms. I think it may just be the stark contrast of the red piping on the stark white uniform that makes the home uniforms look a little off to me. I think I am also adjusting to having sleeves again and losing the pin stripes(both are nice to be getting used to). It is just such a different look, one that we haven’t really seen since the 80’s pullovers.

    I think this is a uniform that will go through some tweaks over the next few years, but I think it is a uniform that, if tweaked correctly, can be one that we keep for a long time.

  • scott d | December 1, 2006 at 8:47 pm |

    Here is a link to the players modeling the new Reds uniforms, not just pictures trying to sell jerseys. Lifelong Reds fan here… I really like them. Agreed with the comparison to Detroit, which is a good thing. Plus, MR RED is back!!! (picture #3)

    http://news.enquirer...

  • Paul Lukas | December 1, 2006 at 8:51 pm |

    I have the Houston/Southern Miss game on in the background while I’m working on some other stuff. Just glanced up at the screen while the ref was announcing a penalty and noticed that he looks exactly — I mean exactly — like Orlando Hernandez (who I suppose could be moonlighting during the MLB offseason, right?).

  • Ed R. | December 1, 2006 at 8:53 pm |

    There is a picture of the Reds new BP jersey and cap on their home page right now along with the other jerseys. It’s one of those changing stories on the main page that says “Reds to don new uniforms for the 2007 season” It looks like there is something on the side of the cap and I remember Paul had mentioned something about there being some stretch fabric on the sides of the caps or something like that.
    Reds

  • bobestes | December 1, 2006 at 9:10 pm |

    I think the new Reds Unis are an improvement. I’m always in favor when teams clean things up a bit.

    My only gripe is that they have this classic, 1930’s look, but they use the 70’s-looking “REDS inside the wishbone” logo. Go with a red wishbone C in that location, and I’d be elated. Everyone knows you’re the Reds.

    Oh, and get rid of any and all black dropshadows. I hate dropshadows.

  • korryn | December 1, 2006 at 9:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”26098″]There is a picture of the Reds new BP jersey and cap on their home page right now along with the other jerseys. It’s one of those changing stories on the main page that says “Reds to don new uniforms for the 2007 season” It looks like there is something on the side of the cap and I remember Paul had mentioned something about there being some stretch fabric on the sides of the caps or something like that.
    Reds[/quote]

    Here is the url for the new reds unis:
    http://shop.mlb.com/...

  • bobestes | December 1, 2006 at 9:14 pm |

    this = better

  • David | December 1, 2006 at 9:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”26099″]I think the new Reds Unis are an improvement. I’m always in favor when teams clean things up a bit.

    My only gripe is that they have this classic, 1930’s look, but they use the 70’s-looking “REDS inside the wishbone” logo. Go with a red wishbone C in that location, and I’d be elated. Everyone knows you’re the Reds.

    Oh, and get rid of any and all black dropshadows. I hate dropshadows.[/quote]

    They aren’t using the “running man” Mr. Red that used to be in the C anymore. They are now using this classic Mr. Red with the Handlebar mustache:

    http://img153.images...

  • Brian Erni | December 1, 2006 at 9:38 pm |

    There is a picture of the Reds new BP jersey and cap on their home page right now along with the other jerseys. It’s one of those changing stories on the main page that says “Reds to don new uniforms for the 2007 season” It looks like there is something on the side of the cap and I remember Paul had mentioned something about there being some stretch fabric on the sides of the caps or something like that.
    Reds

    good catch, ed! yeah that’s definitely the new bp jersey on the site and you can see the white/black sidepanneling. definitely a carbon copy of the sidepanneling from the ’06 allstar game in pittsburgh this year.

  • David | December 1, 2006 at 9:40 pm |

    Sorry, I misread your post.

    None the less, the “reds” inside the wishbone C has been around since 1913:

    http://www.sportslog...

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 9:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”26073″][quote comment=”26025″][quote comment=”26020″][quote comment=”25969″]

    p.s. Tbeez, if god does watch hockey, shouldn’t it have better ratings?[/quote]

    Doesn’t fall into the all-important male 18-45 demographic.[/quote]

    Dane, words of wisdom. But it begs the question: if hockey doesn’t appeal to males aged 18-45, why the hell not?[/quote]

    Sorry, that joke misfired. I wanted to indicate that God(TM) doesn’t fall into the 18-45 demographic, which is why it doesn’t help the ratings.

    (insert Opie & Anthony car crash sound here)[/quote]

    Dane, that makes it very funny. Careful, though, with the trademark symbol—don’t want to send Paul into an apoplectic fit.

  • Minna H | December 1, 2006 at 9:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”26097″]I have the Houston/Southern Miss game on in the background while I’m working on some other stuff. Just glanced up at the screen while the ref was announcing a penalty and noticed that he looks exactly — I mean exactly — like Orlando Hernandez (who I suppose could be moonlighting during the MLB offseason, right?).[/quote]

    Paul, maybe it’s his son. I mean, Orlando is forty-something, yes?

  • bobestes | December 1, 2006 at 9:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”26105″]Sorry, I misread your post.

    None the less, the “reds” inside the wishbone C has been around since 1913:

    http://www.sportslog...

    Good point. I think it’s the black dropshadows that bug me, which is very much a fancy of the late 90’s. You have this late 90’s-ized logo on a classic uniform design, and it just looks weird, in my opinion.

    At least it’s not the Bengals, right?

  • David | December 1, 2006 at 10:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”26111″][quote comment=”26105″]Sorry, I misread your post.

    None the less, the “reds” inside the wishbone C has been around since 1913:

    http://www.sportslog...

    Good point. I think it’s the black dropshadows that bug me, which is very much a fancy of the late 90’s. You have this late 90’s-ized logo on a classic uniform design, and it just looks weird, in my opinion.

    At least it’s not the Bengals, right?[/quote]

    I get your point now, I think that is why they dropped the black backdrop for the Wishbone, to give it a cleaner older look:

    http://store.majesti...

    As for the Bengals….I made this up a while back as a “what I think would look better” image:

    http://img154.images...

  • Allison | December 1, 2006 at 10:26 pm |

    If Dennis Rodman still played in the NBA, I have a feeling this would get him fined.

    But I give the players credit for fighting back regarding the new Technical calls and the new ball. Reactions are natural. I understand when they OVER react, but hitting the post because you missed a lay up? Understandable in my book.

  • MikeR | December 1, 2006 at 10:42 pm |

    I don’t mind the drop shadows on the Reds new unis. I kind of like them. I know, its trendy and modernized, maybe unnecessary. However, I think the drop shadows set the uniforms apart from the other classics I noted in previous posts. As a fan, I want my team to be set apart from others. I don’t want my team to be JUST like the Tigers or JUST like the Red Sox. Phil Castellini has the right approach, as quoted in this article. Plus, (see bottom of same article) is anyone going to argue with Johnny Bench?

  • GoMac | December 1, 2006 at 10:45 pm |

    I like the new Reds jersey..great upgrade from the disasters they’ve been wearing the past few years..and am I the only one really digging the new font “Redlegs”?

    On another note..I’m really happy that the world of Homestar Runner has merged with the Uni Watch one..

    I even named one of my dogs after the character of The Cheat.

  • Marc Walls | December 1, 2006 at 11:42 pm |

    brace yourself for this sight. My source tells me that the Titans are considering wearing the powder blue jersey/powder blue pants combination this weekend against the Colts. Should be interesting.

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 11:47 pm |

    I’m not sure why you want to test me with this, but here we go.

    [quote comment=”26077″]
    It is? Hardly. You’re in minority who think so.[/quote]

    Are you a Devils fan? Because if you loved clutching-and-grabbing, sign here. Scoring is up, and excitement is what you want. So unless you’ve been sleeping, the game is faster, the goals are more plentiful, and the games are far more exciting.

    [quote comment=”26077″]2. Ratings: Down.
    No comment?[/quote]

    When you have no major US television contract like the NFL or MLB, it’s hard to push ratings up. I assumed this would be a no-brainer, but I’d be happy to explain in greater detail if you like.

    [quote comment=”26077″]3. Attendance: Down in ALL major markets.[/quote]

    Define “major”. Toronto? No. Vancouver? No. Denver? No. New York? No. In fact, attendance is up in Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Nashville, and Anaheim. Since Los Angeles is brutal, and Anaheim is so close, would it be fair to say that the true hockey fans in LA migrate to Anaheim where the team is winning?

    [quote comment=”26077″]Yep. My point exactly. OK Federov I get…what city is it? Cincinnati?[/quote]

    Either you don’t follow hockey, or this is sarcasm. Either way, it’s a slap to the face for the entire city of Columbus, Ohio.

    [quote comment=”26077″]
    Changes still run through the league office I assume…[/quote]

    Why would the league block a jersey change? If they are comfortable with the Reebok change, why would they prevent a team from updating/changing their logo/colours? They have far bigger things to worry about than team colours. That’s what trademarks are for (had to throw that in for you, Paul).

    [quote comment=”26077″]The yellow 1st down marker on the football field has failed? It’s awesome invention…[/quote]

    The orange baseball. The officials’ cam. The balata ball experiment in baseball. Astroturf in FIFA matches. The BCS. Fox broadcasting the NHL. And these are only what I can think of off the top of my head.

    [quote comment=”26077″]Huh? – the response to Colin Campbell’s job[/quote]

    Colin Campbell in charge of handing down suspensions of players and overseeing the league’s on-ice officials, not creating and mandating rules.

    [quote comment=”26077″]Nothing says gimmick more than “it’s not life or death…”[/quote]

    Nothing says desperate for a rationalization than attributing a good addition for the paying fans to being a gimmick. Is it a gimmick in the Olympics? No. If you’re paying top dollar for a seat to watch your team, a tie is not the way you want to go home. It’s boring and counter-productive to the fans’ interests, and the latter reason is the more important reason.

    [quote comment=”26077″]Doesn’t mean he shouldn’t/can’t fix it…[/quote]

    Are you implying that the teams should give up the revenue they make off the advertisements on the boards? You’ll need a better reason than “he should fix it”. I can guarantee you that no team nor the league will take this seriously.

    [quote comment=”26077″]An option to the Raptors or the Blue Jays.[/quote]

    Are you saying they are passion-less? Chris Bosh would argue that. Vernon Wells would argue that.

    [quote comment=”26077”]Fully agree with you on the Blackhawks…

    My opinion //Hockey is broke and Bettman.[/quote]

    You’re certainly entitled to it. I will never debate that. :o)

  • Teebz | December 1, 2006 at 11:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”26081″]
    Traditionally, the sweaters fit tighter than they do now. It’s only been since the 80’s that they started getting loose. That’s why they had to start mandating equipment tie downs.[/quote]

    They started getting looser due to the larger equipment. Unless they change the size of the equipment, the jerseys will look ridiculous. And since the players won’t give up what they have in terms of safety, this will be a tough sell.

    [quote comment=”26081″]Can you define these tactics? What specifically do you mean?[/quote]

    Just because Reebok got the NHL contract doesn’t mean they have to redesign the game. Nike has ruined college football uniforms based upon their measures of “fashion”. Reebok needs to let it be, and not to try “Nike-size” (pronounced “Nike-eh-size”) the NHL in a template of their choosing. Otherwise, Reebok is no better than Nike in being a travesty to mostly everything they wrap their slimy tentacles around. :o)

    [quote comment=”26081″]I think that it’s less a cash grab and more a marketing measure. Hockey players are some of the strongest, fittest athletes out there, but you wouldn’t know it from the formless jersey.[/quote]

    So do you feel that NFL linemen should cut their sleeves? I don’t care how strong they are. They aren’t in a bodybuilding contest. They’re playing the fastest professional sport not on a racetrack. Hockey is played with sweaters and jerseys, not spandex and lycra. Leave the form-fitting “jerseys” to beach volleyball and swimmers.

  • Jeff | December 2, 2006 at 12:10 am |

    [quote comment=”25853″]Anyone else notice that they’re playing with an AFL football (Arena League)?

    http://www.popwarner...

    yah thats the LCP Bengals in Leander-Cedar Park texas, where I live, they use those fo a reason i dont know but the sports stores in the areas sell a BOAT load of AFL footballs

  • bg | December 2, 2006 at 12:41 am |

    great page.
    http://www.mghelmets...

    http://www.mghelmets...

    whats with those Charlotte helmets? a “C” and then a Bears logo over a star? and a plain “W” for the “Wind?”

    Love that Southern CA Sun logo tho.

  • Burrill | December 2, 2006 at 12:54 am |

    [quote comment=”26064″]Why is that, Burrill? Are they afraid of…bootleg photos? Disturbances? What? That is strange. Well, do the best you can to capture the Flying Wheel awash in a sea of red. Oh, and you can be official cameraman for the Midwestern Conference—when you’re not pitching, of course. Hopefully, you will not run into Kenny Rogers–or vice-versa.[/quote]

    The Wings prohibit lenses over 80mm. This is irritating to me because my most useful lens for this sort of occasion extends to 85, putting it just over the cutoff.

    As for why, maybe they want to restrict aspiring photographers in the crowd; maybe they’re just trying to limit the physical size of spectators’ cameras. I suspect the former is more likely than the latter. Either way, I’m not too fond of it, but I can deal with it.

    Wow — you’re trusting me with the position of pitcher? You’re brave. I haven’t played any sort of baseball-like game since I played t-ball. But I’ll do my best to avoid Kenny “Hey, What’s Up With His Hat? Is He Wearing A Different Hat?” Rogers.

  • Bob A | December 2, 2006 at 1:05 am |

    [quote comment=”26097″]I have the Houston/Southern Miss game on in the background while I’m working on some other stuff. Just glanced up at the screen while the ref was announcing a penalty and noticed that he looks exactly — I mean exactly — like Orlando Hernandez (who I suppose could be moonlighting during the MLB offseason, right?).[/quote]
    Just back from the game… Orlando Hernandez would have probably done a better job than that guy.

    To put in on topic… I wish we (Houston) would go back to the red jerseywhite pants combo. I’m in the camp that doesn’t like the one color look.

  • Minna H | December 2, 2006 at 1:05 am |

    Burrill, the Flying Wheels look better in motion, even when brutally cutting down my Wild!

    Before the game, they showed footage from games past—which means the North Stars, of course. Tomorrow, the Wild! play the Dallas Stars, which will not be a pretty sight. I want my Minnesota North Stars back!!!!!

    Have fun at the game tomorrow, Burrill—try to smuggle in your best lens. I expect pictures posted Sunday morning!

  • Minna H | December 2, 2006 at 1:11 am |

    [quote comment=”26126″][quote comment=”26064″]Why is that, Burrill? Are they afraid of…bootleg photos? Disturbances? What? That is strange. Well, do the best you can to capture the Flying Wheel awash in a sea of red. Oh, and you can be official cameraman for the Midwestern Conference—when you’re not pitching, of course. Hopefully, you will not run into Kenny Rogers–or vice-versa.[/quote]

    The Wings prohibit lenses over 80mm. This is irritating to me because my most useful lens for this sort of occasion extends to 85, putting it just over the cutoff.

    As for why, maybe they want to restrict aspiring photographers in the crowd; maybe they’re just trying to limit the physical size of spectators’ cameras. I suspect the former is more likely than the latter. Either way, I’m not too fond of it, but I can deal with it.

    Wow — you’re trusting me with the position of pitcher? You’re brave. I haven’t played any sort of baseball-like game since I played t-ball. But I’ll do my best to avoid Kenny “Hey, What’s Up With His Hat? Is He Wearing A Different Hat?” Rogers.[/quote]

    You are my official closer. Why? Because of the beard, of course. You are lean, mean, and intimidating. Who cares if you can actually pitch? One look at you, and the batter will strike him/herself out.

    Kenny Rogers, he looks different than his teammates. Is he wearing a BP hat????? And what’s that on his hand????

    Rules that have no reason are frustrating—that’s why I say smuggle in your 85mm lens. Power to the people, and you can’t stop the ‘fro!

    p.s. We posted to each other at the same time. That is funny.

  • Bob A | December 2, 2006 at 1:12 am |

    re: Houston Cougars…. This is better than that

  • Minna H | December 2, 2006 at 1:13 am |

    Teebz, time to lay off the coffee, man. It’s not good for your blood-pressure.

    At least switch to decaf.

  • Minna H | December 2, 2006 at 1:17 am |

    [quote comment=”26131″]re: Houston Cougars…. This is better than that[/quote]

    Bob A. Agreed. This is definiely better than that, but it’s because that has two different shades of red. If that had a jersey that matched the pants, well, my eyes would explode.

  • Teebz | December 2, 2006 at 1:19 am |

    [quote comment=”26132″]Teebz, time to lay off the coffee, man. It’s not good for your blood-pressure.

    At least switch to decaf.[/quote]

    Like any fanatic, I shall defend my religion until death. :o)

  • Minna H | December 2, 2006 at 1:27 am |

    [quote comment=”26134″][quote comment=”26132″]Teebz, time to lay off the coffee, man. It’s not good for your blood-pressure.

    At least switch to decaf.[/quote]

    Like any fanatic, I shall defend my religion until death. :o)[/quote]

    As long as it’s not your death. Who will speak for hockey if you are no longer around to champion it? So, I say, it’s as much for your religion as yourself that I implore you to cut down to five cups a day.

    Banker B. and Bluenoser can only do so much on their own—with a little help from Kenny, of course. Hockey needs you, Teebz. Don’t forget that.

  • Teebz | December 2, 2006 at 1:31 am |

    [quote comment=”26135″][quote comment=”26134″][quote comment=”26132″]Teebz, time to lay off the coffee, man. It’s not good for your blood-pressure.

    At least switch to decaf.[/quote]

    Like any fanatic, I shall defend my religion until death. :o)[/quote]

    As long as it’s not your death. Who will speak for hockey if you are no longer around to champion it? So, I say, it’s as much for your religion as yourself that I implore you to cut down to five cups a day.

    Banker B. and Bluenoser can only do so much on their own—with a little help from Kenny, of course. Hockey needs you, Teebz. Don’t forget that.[/quote]

    If only the NHL had me employed….

    I can dream the impossible dream, can’t I?

  • Minna H | December 2, 2006 at 1:33 am |

    [quote comment=”26136″]

    If only the NHL had me employed….

    I can dream the impossible dream, can’t I?[/quote]

    You could be the official uni-tweaker. No team could change their unis without your approval. Think of the power!

  • Teebz | December 2, 2006 at 1:41 am |

    [quote comment=”26137″][quote comment=”26136″]

    If only the NHL had me employed….

    I can dream the impossible dream, can’t I?[/quote]

    You could be the official uni-tweaker. No team could change their unis without your approval. Think of the power![/quote]

    No, that’s not my call. I don’t think I’d want to stifle any sort of creativity from the teams. But certain jerseys would be killed immediately.

    Like the Dallas Fallopian Tubes.

  • Tim | December 2, 2006 at 1:43 am |

    [quote comment=”26047″][quote comment=”25868″][quote comment=”25867″][quote comment=”25859″]In the 1928 Christy Razors picture, check out the player front and center. Is that eyeblack? If so it pre-dates Paul’s assertion from the ESPN article, “The earliest known instance of a player wearing eye black is Redskins fullback Andy Farkas, who apparently came up with the idea on his own in 1942.”[/quote]
    I say puffy eyelids. Or eye”unders”??[/quote]

    That’s what I thought at first too, but they are darker than anyone elses eyes on the team and much more square.[/quote]

    I am pretty sure that the “eye black” is the shadow of the cap’s brim. This accounts for it appearing to be square, and it accounts for it looking different on some players (depending on their position in the photo).[/quote]

    I spoke to my Dad tonight to get a little more back story on the pictures that are posted. He said in a joking fashion that the guys that usually played for my great-grandfather were pretty big booze hounds,he said that it was probably from the having a long night before the championship game. Which would also explain why the guys had different hats on. Another thing that he cleared up for me was something that you aren’t going to like Paul. He said that the majority of the hats that my grandfather got for the team were purple, only because the high school colors we purple and white.

  • Minna H | December 2, 2006 at 1:44 am |

    [quote comment=”26138″][quote comment=”26137″][quote comment=”26136″]

    If only the NHL had me employed….

    I can dream the impossible dream, can’t I?[/quote]

    You could be the official uni-tweaker. No team could change their unis without your approval. Think of the power![/quote]

    No, that’s not my call. I don’t think I’d want to stifle any sort of creativity from the teams. But certain jerseys would be killed immediately.

    Like the Dallas Fallopian Tubes.[/quote]

    You’re kidding me. Those are (are you listening, todd k.?) an abomination! I hope they wear those tomorrow. It would make me feel better…no, it wouldn’t. Never mind.

  • Minna H | December 2, 2006 at 1:47 am |

    [quote comment=”26139″]

    I spoke to my Dad tonight to get a little more back story on the pictures that are posted. He said in a joking fashion that the guys that usually played for my great-grandfather were pretty big booze hounds,he said that it was probably from the having a long night before the championship game. Which would also explain why the guys had different hats on. Another thing that he cleared up for me was something that you aren’t going to like Paul. He said that the majority of the hats that my grandfather got for the team were purple, only because the high school colors we purple and white.[/quote]

    Those are fantastic pictures, Tim. Thanks to you and your dad for sharing them. I really enjoy looking at the old-timey pictures. Ahhh, those were the days of booze and women….

  • Teebz | December 2, 2006 at 1:48 am |

    [quote comment=”26140″]
    You’re kidding me. Those are (are you listening, todd k.?) an abomination! I hope they wear those tomorrow. It would make me feel better…no, it wouldn’t. Never mind.[/quote]

    Dallas already discontinued wearing them. Let’s just say that they didn’t sell very well.

  • Minna H | December 2, 2006 at 1:56 am |

    [quote comment=”26142″][quote comment=”26140″]
    You’re kidding me. Those are (are you listening, todd k.?) an abomination! I hope they wear those tomorrow. It would make me feel better…no, it wouldn’t. Never mind.[/quote]

    Dallas already discontinued wearing them. Let’s just say that they didn’t sell very well.[/quote]

    Gee, I wonder why. What a waste of money. What would you want to do for the NHL?

  • Teebz | December 2, 2006 at 2:09 am |

    [quote comment=”26143″]
    What would you want to do for the NHL?[/quote]

    I’m not sure. Maybe work in some sort of promotional department, or work with the players in some capacity much like the competition committee.

    As long as it’s fun, that’s what I’d want to do.

  • Ben | December 2, 2006 at 2:43 am |

    Chad’s striping issue do not come from his new Revolution helmet, but rather his new orange chinstrap tails that cover the bottom portion of his stripes

  • Jeff Wilcox | December 2, 2006 at 2:44 am |

    [quote comment=”26122″][quote comment=”26081″]
    Traditionally, the sweaters fit tighter than they do now. It’s only been since the 80’s that they started getting loose. That’s why they had to start mandating equipment tie downs.[/quote]

    They started getting looser due to the larger equipment. Unless they change the size of the equipment, the jerseys will look ridiculous. And since the players won’t give up what they have in terms of safety, this will be a tough sell.

    [quote comment=”26081″]Can you define these tactics? What specifically do you mean?[/quote]

    Just because Reebok got the NHL contract doesn’t mean they have to redesign the game. Nike has ruined college football uniforms based upon their measures of “fashion”. Reebok needs to let it be, and not to try “Nike-size” (pronounced “Nike-eh-size”) the NHL in a template of their choosing. Otherwise, Reebok is no better than Nike in being a travesty to mostly everything they wrap their slimy tentacles around. :o)

    [quote comment=”26081″]I think that it’s less a cash grab and more a marketing measure. Hockey players are some of the strongest, fittest athletes out there, but you wouldn’t know it from the formless jersey.[/quote]

    So do you feel that NFL linemen should cut their sleeves? I don’t care how strong they are. They aren’t in a bodybuilding contest. They’re playing the fastest professional sport not on a racetrack. Hockey is played with sweaters and jerseys, not spandex and lycra. Leave the form-fitting “jerseys” to beach volleyball and swimmers.[/quote]

    Supposedly, the new jersey fits better around the modern pads. Apparently feedback from the players is very positive.

    Reebok isn’t changing the game at all, they are changing the uniforms. And that is the League’s choice to move forward with it. And you are assuming that the jersey’s will have a design template like the “Bib” look that Nike has done to football, but that remains to be seen. There is no indication that a design template exists. If that does turn out to be the case, I’ll be right there with you protesting.

    As for the reasons behind the form fitting construction, I was making a point more to the reasoning for the league to do it, not the actual aesthetics of it. I think that the NHL wants the fastest game to look fast and sleek.

  • Mark in Shiga | December 2, 2006 at 4:35 am |

    I really like the number font on those nre Cincinnati jerseys!

    And how about that 1869 jersey in the background… are they going to be wearing that?

    One thing the Reds need to never, ever bring back is the disgustingly-huge player surnames on the jerseys of the 1970s-80s. Poor Dave Concepcion looked ridiculous! If a jersey has to have surnames, make them small like Baltimore’s.

  • Al | December 2, 2006 at 5:48 am |

    [quote comment=”26039″]Has anyone noticed that all the current color/studio guys were, at one point, teammates by degrees of seperation? Kelly Hrudey (CBC), Glenny Healy (TSN), Tie Domi (TSN), Pat Flatley, Bil Berg (NHL Network), Ed Olczyk (NHL on NBC), Ray Ferraro (NHL on NBC), Greg Millen (CBC), and Nick Kypreos (Rogers Sportsnet) all fit the pattern. Heck, even Cammi Granato (NHL on NBC) does!

    Check it out here.[/quote]

    Wow Teebz, you are a true lifer! Your chart was very educational… but when I first read your observation I assumed that you were referring to Cammi ‘s brother playing his first few seasons as a Ranger, if you recall Tony and Leechie were Rangers co-Rookies of the year 1989 (still upset they traded him to San Jose).

  • Al | December 2, 2006 at 5:57 am |

    [quote comment=”26059″]Hockey is in the toilet. A great (I really mean) great game detroy by Stern’s NBA Entertainment lawyer (true).

    Since Bettman took over hockey has seen the following catastrophic events:

    1. Lost an entire season to a player lockout.
    2. Ratings: Down.
    3. Attendance: Down in ALL major markets.
    4. Q ratings (player awareness) : Name 3 players on the Blue Jackets (Blue Jackets, who are they?)
    5. Look of the game: Sabres, Ducks, black jerseys.
    6. FOX trak glowing puck: On GB’s clock.
    7. Rules (Campbell reports in to Bettman)
    8. Shoot out? Silly soccer crap.
    9. Dasherboard signage (where’s the puck?)
    10. Canadian market: slipping south.

    I used to absolutely adore the great game of hockey. Now you cannot pay me to attend a game and the local team the Blackhawks, an amazing history can’t draw 7,000 fans a game… it’s sad, pathetic tragic and then here comes Reebok…the only outfitter WORSE than NIKE…

    Blame the guy at the top, Commissioner Bettman.[/quote]
    JMac,
    I nominate you as Uni-nation’s ambassador to the NHL. Keep woking on your list for presentation to Bettman. You can go to the league offices in NYC and nail it to their office doors akin to Martin Luther. Think of the changes you could inspire, You Go Boy !

  • Al | December 2, 2006 at 6:41 am |

    [quote comment=”26152″]I really like the number font on those nre Cincinnati jerseys!

    And how about that 1869 jersey in the background… are they going to be wearing that?

    One thing the Reds need to never, ever bring back is the disgustingly-huge player surnames on the jerseys of the 1970s-80s. Poor Dave Concepcion looked ridiculous! If a jersey has to have surnames, make them small like Baltimore’s.[/quote]
    Isn’t that number font the same one used by the Philadelphia Eagles (and rollerball inspired?)
    I’m not crazy of the number’s Buffaslug-esque placement at the front of the jersey.

  • C.J. Andringa | December 2, 2006 at 7:45 am |

    [quote comment=”26125″]whats with those Charlotte helmets? a “C” and then a Bears logo over a star? and a plain “W” for the “Wind?” Love that Southern CA Sun logo tho.[/quote]

    The New York Stars up and moved to Charlotte and became the Charlotte Stars, during the season! (Check out the NY 1974 helmet and compare it to the Charlotte 1974 edition).

  • C.J. Andringa | December 2, 2006 at 7:50 am |

    [quote comment=”26013″]I can’t believe that there isn’t more outrage regarding the duplicate uni numbers in college by uniwatch readers. It is so stupid. Why would any player want to share an “identity” with another player on the same roster? Ohio State does plenty of it and it drives me crazy. Who cares if a player has gotten attached to a certain number. If a number is taken, tell him to pick another one. End of conversation. I can’t believe Tress goes along with this.[/quote]

    Okay…try outfitting 120 players (or more), but you’re only allowed to use numbers 1-99. Pretty difficult.

  • Terry | December 2, 2006 at 8:11 am |

    Hey guys,

    I just got and started to read The Toronto Star this morning (Saturday) and the article says that the Leaf logo is changing and that they would be introducing the new Leaf logo at the All-Star Game. Did anyone hear about this beforehand? How about you, Paul?

    I’m going to try to repost this comment in the Saturday open thread when it opens this morning.

  • My Name is Not Earl | December 2, 2006 at 11:41 am |

    So why is Georgia Tech wearing blue today? Why not white or gold?

  • Azul Army | December 2, 2006 at 11:45 am |

    Paul- I was catching up on your last ESPN column and the part about eye black. It struck me that you should have some UniWatch branded eye strips to go with the rest of the UniWatch catalogue stuff. Yes, I know the tattoos arent really moving but it would be cool to see a set of those eye strips pop up on the NFL network some Sunday.

    Who knows, if they were available, UniWatch could become the (un)official sponsor of my son’s NFL flag football team!

  • Minna H | December 2, 2006 at 12:05 pm |

    Um, yeah. Uniform. Looks uniform to me.

    Warning! Contains nipple

  • Stu | December 2, 2006 at 9:23 pm |

    Can anyone make out the patch on the Florida jersey? At first i thought it was a patch for the game, but it looks like a Florida helmet and a white helmet.

    Any ideas?

  • Bobby D | December 2, 2006 at 10:21 pm |

    The numbers on the Reds red top is too high, it looks goofy to be so high, they should’ve put it lower, like the Dodgers do. I’m not in love with it. Don’t know why so many people are against piping, the best uniform is the Bosox’s home jersey, and any uniform w/out stripes on the pants is B.O.R.I.N.G.!

    Personally I also love vest uniforms, when worn with acceptable undershirts, not those goober things Nike was promoting w/ the love dots…or ones that don’t look like they are from outer space like those terrible Rockies ones which are too wide in the shoulders!

  • Mark in Shiga | December 3, 2006 at 1:44 am |

    Al, the Eagles’ numbers are a bit different; check out the points on the 2 and 6 for Cincinnati (the Eagles don’t have those). There are also curves in places where the Eagles have straight lines. It’s close, but different.