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Alternate Universe

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This past weekend was a bonanza for alternate uniforms, including several making their inaugural appearances. Check it out:

• The Bobcats wore their new navy alts (additional views here and here), which I like quite a bit.

• The Nets unveiled their solid-red alts (also look here, here, and here). Now let’s hope they quietly retire them.

• The Jazz dressed in light blue. According to “Baby Blues” section of this article, several players thought the shorts lettering looked “like high school,” an assessment with which I agree. (Another note from that article: Robert Hyde, president of the team’s Fanzz merchandise stores [now there’s a brilliant store name…], is quoted thusly: “The NBA won’t let you use black anymore [for alternate jerseys].” First I’ve heard of that.)

• Maybe the prohibition on solid-black alternates explains why the Wizards have gone with their controversial two-tone alts, which made their debut over the weekend. I still like the stars and stripes, although I wouldn’t argue too hard with anyone who finds the whole thing a bit much. (Question: Notwithstanding last season’s Bulls-as-Stags throwbacks, when’s the last time an NBA team wore two-tone unis?)

• Notre Dame broke out the green jerseys (which I happen to love, so I’m running lots of additional pics here, here, here, here, and here).

• The Titans wore their light blue pants for the first time (additional pics here, here, and here). I prefer the navy pants, although I like the reference to the franchise’s old Love Ya Blue days.

• I’m not positive, but I think yesterday marked the first time the Rams have worn these white pants (which didn’t fare too well).

And that’s not counting the Eagles’ black jerseys, the Panthers’ blue jerseys, the Lakers’ home whites, or the Broncos’ blue pants, all of which are now reasonably familiar sights. “Uniform”? Apparently not.

While you were watching football…: Yesterday I accompanied a lively crew of folks from the very wonderful City Reliquary to the annual Rosendale Picklefest, where there was much munching of deep-fried pickles, among other nutritious options. The proceedings included music from an “authentic” German band, whose members were attired in traditional lederhosen. I had my photo taken with one of them, for reasons that I think will be obvious to most of you.

Our next stop was the excellent Century House Historical Society, where Uni Watch hedge fund analyst Jenny Strasburg alertly spotted photos of old women’s and men’s basketball uniforms hanging on one of the walls. Those stripes on the men’s jerseys are pretty wild — I’ve seen similar stripes used as side panels, but never quite like they’re used in this old photo. All of which goes to show that historical uni-related research can take place anywhere, even during a field trip to a pickle festival.

Uni Watch News Ticker: The Chargers’ Marcus McNeill is playing with two broken hands — which apparently makes it difficult for him to zip up his pants (über-thanks to Tim Walsh and Vince Vincenzo, both of whom submitted screen-grabs). … Interesting Boston College uni-numbering tradition explained here (scroll down to the “New jersey” section, and thanks to Dave Conley for the tip). … Michael Rich notes that Rutgers uses different helmet-numbering formats depending on which helmet design a player is wearing. … Good account of DeAngelo Williams’s super-shiny shoe soles in the middle of this Q&A page (with thanks to Ryan Campbell). Multiple sources report that Williams also wears the Univeristy of Memphis logo on his mouthguard, but if you can see it here, your eyesight is better than mine. … All that fuss, just for this? (And although you can’t see it in the photos, Robert Madel notes that Nolan was wearing white socks, which suggests that he still has a lot to learn about wearing a suit.) … Phillies first baseman Ryan Howard showed up at yesterday’s Eagles game wearing a pretty cool retro jacket. … In case you missed it in yesterday’s Comments section: Interesting note in the middle of this page regarding Jocelyn Thibault’s new mask (here’s his old one). … And here’s an article about the new NHL jerseys (although it’s long on speculation and short on solid info). … This web site turned six months old last Friday. Thanks to everyone who’s helped make this a really great half-year — looking forward to more.

 

221 comments to Alternate Universe

  • Kel | November 20, 2006 at 8:50 am |

    I’m with you on ND’s green jerseys. It makes them fit their name better, and looks really sharp with the gold. The same old color combinations get boring after a while, so it’s nice to see a team with a bit of variation.

  • Matt B | November 20, 2006 at 8:57 am |

    Something of an aesthetic disaster on Mallorca yesterday. Orange vs Red — it’s clash-a-riffic!

    Reminds me of a certain basketball game I’d hoped to strike from my databanks:

    And this was the alternate jersey. Apparently, orange vs red is higher contrast than blue & red vs red. But I’m not so sure…Barcelona used to carry a third jersey to eliminate the possibility of something like this. Maybe La Liga should mandate that every team have a predominantly white jersey on hand?

    Special note for the ladies: the Barca shop carries jerseys with a woman’s cut, and they’re not pink.

  • BJ L. | November 20, 2006 at 9:15 am |

    As one of the “sources” for the DeAngelo Williams mouth guard logo, I swear it’s there. Nobody has a clear pic of it though.

    Has anyone every seen/mentioned/reported on St. John’s University (MN)and how they do their name plates for football?


    St. John’s Football

  • Zack | November 20, 2006 at 9:21 am |

    I don’t know how to say this Paul, but your pose next to the lederhosen guy makes you look like some sort of polka groupie.

    Just a heads up.

  • nico | November 20, 2006 at 9:22 am |

    I’m with you Matt B on Barças orange, they should have a 3rd kit, but there’s no way it will ever be white. Their biggest rival is Real Madrid and wears all white, so no wearing of their colors. Plus Barcelona used to have white numbers on their shirts, they’ve changed them to yellow a few years back so the have absolutely no white on their kit.
    They still need a 3rd kit, they’ve used

    yellow,

    gold,

    silver and
    green

    as alternates, any one of them could do.

  • Pat | November 20, 2006 at 9:26 am |

    Is it just me or does the girl holding the basketball in the picture of the women’s team look possessed.

    I don’t mind the Nets’ jerseys as much I guess. I usually oppose to anything Nets, being a Celtics fan, but those don’t make me quite as sick as i thought they would. Not like the Celtics alternate unis.

    I don’t think I have to comment on the hideous Wizards unis but those Jazz alts are almost as bad, surprisingly. I usually support the light blue look. Like the Titans pulled off yesterday.

  • Greg Nilsen | November 20, 2006 at 9:27 am |

    [quote comment=”23753″]Something of an aesthetic disaster on Mallorca yesterday. Orange vs Red — it’s clash-a-riffic!

    Reminds me of a certain basketball game I’d hoped to strike from my databanks:

    And this was the alternate jersey. Apparently, orange vs red is higher contrast than blue & red vs red. But I’m not so sure…Barcelona used to carry a third jersey to eliminate the possibility of something like this. Maybe La Liga should mandate that every team have a predominantly white jersey on hand?

    Special note for the ladies: the Barca shop carries jerseys with a woman’s cut, and they’re not pink.[/quote]

    I have to ask…what’s with the purple and yellow striped ball?

    That whole picture looks like a match between Barnum & Bailey’s and the Shriner circuses.

  • Scott Novosel | November 20, 2006 at 9:28 am |

    Gotta disagree about the Bobcats’ unis. They look so cheapy. Like you could grab that jersey out of a pile of discount goods at Jerry’s sport shop in Grandview, Missouri. Look at the neck on there. It like they tried to do one of those cheesy nike collar designs but didn’t have the money to put anything there.

    This brings up a good point about what has happened to a lot of the jerseys in the NFL and NBA. They have tried to copy the innovation of Nike but have failed miserably. Did you see the Bills unis this weekend. How much of whatever can you fit on a uniform? Nothing even lines up.

    How refreshing did the Browns unis look this weekend? And how good did #30 for Notre Dame look with his plain white long sleeve underneath? Nice work!

  • Matt | November 20, 2006 at 9:34 am |

    I’m fully aware of Barca’s relationship with their white-wearing rivals, that’s why I thought it might be a league mandate. And I hope the following might turn neutral uniwatchers against Real:

    Purple logo-creep on the primary jersey
    purple alt jersey

    black away jersery

  • Richard | November 20, 2006 at 9:36 am |

    [quote comment=”23759″]Is it just me or does the girl holding the basketball in the picture of the women’s team look possessed.

    I don’t mind the Nets’ jerseys as much I guess. I usually oppose to anything Nets, being a Celtics fan, but those don’t make me quite as sick as i thought they would. Not like the Celtics alternate unis.

    I don’t think I have to comment on the hideous Wizards unis but those Jazz alts are almost as bad, surprisingly. I usually support the light blue look. Like the Titans pulled off yesterday.[/quote]

    How do the Celtics’ alternates make you sick? It’s not that much of a variation of the norm. Yes, the thick stripe down the side of the shorts looks a little collegiate, but the black really isn’t that bad an accent color.

  • PDXclark | November 20, 2006 at 9:37 am |

    Another note on the Red Nets jerseys- since they were worn at home, the Blazers wore their white “home” unis that say Blazers on the front. Their road jerseys are usually black and say Portland….

  • Matt | November 20, 2006 at 9:42 am |

    The ball is Nike’s handiwork. There was a discussion about it wrt England’s league a little while back.

    Here it is in action with Sevilla and Valencia. Apparently, Valencia celebrates Halloween every road game.

  • Chris | November 20, 2006 at 9:45 am |

    The purple and yellow ball is the “winter” ball used in the Premier league. They use a white and red ball through October I think. From what I understand it has to do with being able to see the ball in winter weather.

  • Paul P | November 20, 2006 at 9:46 am |

    I was watching the World Series of Poker last night, and the commentator made a fun observation. One young player wasn’t doing all that well, and he said “Maybe if he would turn his hat so that the brim faced forward and not sideways he’d play a little better.”

    Now we just need to get all baseball announcers to feel say the same thing, and maybe we can get MLB to ban the sideways hat thing!

  • Paul Lukas | November 20, 2006 at 9:47 am |

    [quote comment=”23756″]I don’t know how to say this Paul, but your pose next to the lederhosen guy makes you look like some sort of polka groupie.[/quote]

    And what exactly would be wrong with that? Polka rocks!

  • Chris | November 20, 2006 at 9:48 am |

    The winter ball.

    The red and white version.

  • Chris | November 20, 2006 at 9:51 am |
  • Matt B | November 20, 2006 at 9:54 am |

    Do they need a winter ball in Spain, though? Maybe at the higher elevations….

  • Tape | November 20, 2006 at 9:54 am |

    I really liked the Titans’ light blue pants. I think it brings together the whole uni much better than the navy pants, because it goes with the light blue shoulder panel quite nicely. I think they’d do well to keep the look. the Titans’ certainly looked much better than their opponents with their ugly black alts.

    the Rams’ white pants weren’t bad, but they were kind of bland compared to their gold pants. it just didn’t look right. (granted, I don’t like their “new” navy/metallic gold look. I much preferred the royal/yellow old school Eric Dickerson-era look, which really stood out – the new look doesn’t stand out to me at all.) and I’m also fairly certain it’s the first time they’ve ever been worn in a game.

    brief note on the Lakers’ whites: I love how they only wear the whites on sundays. I like the idea of a “sunday jersey”.

    the purple/yellow soccer ball: it’s been discussed here before. in Europe, they use a “winter ball” for the wintery months when snow is likely, so the ball is visible against the snow, unlike the traditional white ball.

    Bobcats’ navy alts: love them. very nice. and this coming from a big fan of orange.

    Nets’ red alts: don’t really care either way.

  • Jonathan Edwards | November 20, 2006 at 10:01 am |

    http://yalebulldogs....

    Yale had some nice socks going on Saturday.

  • Wally1912 | November 20, 2006 at 10:08 am |

    I think Mike Nolan is actually wearing Reebok golf shoes

  • KT | November 20, 2006 at 10:09 am |

    Actually, I don’t mind the Nets’ all-reds. But the Dr. J red/white/blues are hard to beat.

    Those Wizards jerseys are just butt ugly. It’s not because they’re two-tone, though that’s not so hot. They just look teh ghey.

    I believe I’ve seen the Rams in those white pants before.

    And ND’s greens are cool when used in moderation.

  • Brandon T. | November 20, 2006 at 10:10 am |

    As much as I loathe Notre Dame, I really enjoy their alternate unis. They have it down on how to break out the alt.: if you do have an alternate, wear it only once a year, if that.

    Wizards alt: Thumbs up.
    Jazz alt: Thumbs down.
    Nets alt: Throw it in the Hudson.

    Bobcats alt: The Bobcats need a new uniform, not a new alternate. Their colors (bright orange with gray and navy?), the typography, piping, everything makes me think of the NBDL or Euro-league.

    BT

  • Harry | November 20, 2006 at 10:12 am |

    Here’s Army’s cheerleaders going retro at the Notre Dame game by wearing legwarmers

  • Daniel | November 20, 2006 at 10:17 am |

    Isn’t Jack del Rio going to wear a suit for tonight’s game? I’m pretty sure I read that here a few days ago.

  • Chris | November 20, 2006 at 10:25 am |

    I can’t find a picture of them, but I’m almost certain the OSU cheer leaders went really old school with sweaters and skirts during the game this saturday.

  • Scott Novosel | November 20, 2006 at 10:27 am |

    Hey, I also wanted to get some advice from you guys as to my new uniform for this tv show in Japan. Totally old school MLB influenced:

    pants 2

  • Luther Mahoney | November 20, 2006 at 10:28 am |

    I do not believe that the trend of NFL coaches wearing suits will go beyond Mike Nolan.
    that is because,almost all head coaches now wear
    head sets and carry battery packs for the head set,a red replay review flag and other items on them,during games. Former head coach Steve Mari-ucci,who wears sharp looking suits off the field,
    once stated,in an NFL Films clip,that with all the
    items that he must wear during a game a siut would
    not be practical because,it inhibit has movement
    when he is standing and moving for three hours.
    One must remember that Lombardi,Halas,Landry and
    others,who wore suits,rarely wore head sets and
    one of the few who did wear a head set from that era-Bud Grant-wore casual pants,a purple wind-
    breaker and a Vikings cap.

    After yesterday’s game,the sight of Mike Nolan removing his jacket while an attendent
    remove wires and other items reminded me of an
    undercover cop who is wired for a dangerous
    assignment.

  • Scott Novosel | November 20, 2006 at 10:33 am |

    Sorry, I can’t figure out the whole link deal. Gomennasai!

    http://i9.tinypic.co...pants1

    http://i9.tinypic.co...

  • Peter Wunsch | November 20, 2006 at 10:33 am |

    I watched part of the Rams game on the Direct TV package and the announcer stated that this was the first time the Rams wore white pants since the move from LA.

  • Ian K | November 20, 2006 at 10:34 am |

    I read on the “reliable” Wikipedia that Mike Nolan’s suit was designed by Reebok. I’m not sure if this was discussed earlier, my apologies if it was. I hope NFL coaches continue to wear suits. We’ll see what Del Rio wears tonight I guess, but please no teal tie.

    I don’t know if any of you are familiar with Lexington, Virginia but I traveled there from Fort Worth for a wedding this weekend. It’s the home of Washington & Lee and VMI – who played Liberty U in some fine red and gold unis. A beautiful college town to say the least, and some nice uniforms, pictures here

  • Pat | November 20, 2006 at 10:35 am |

    [quote comment=”23764″][quote comment=”23759″]Is it just me or does the girl holding the basketball in the picture of the women’s team look possessed.

    I don’t mind the Nets’ jerseys as much I guess. I usually oppose to anything Nets, being a Celtics fan, but those don’t make me quite as sick as i thought they would. Not like the Celtics alternate unis.

    I don’t think I have to comment on the hideous Wizards unis but those Jazz alts are almost as bad, surprisingly. I usually support the light blue look. Like the Titans pulled off yesterday.[/quote]

    How do the Celtics’ alternates make you sick? It’s not that much of a variation of the norm. Yes, the thick stripe down the side of the shorts looks a little collegiate, but the black really isn’t that bad an accent color.[/quote]

    I don’t think there is anything wrong with the Celtics alts. I am not a particularly huge fan of the jersey, but the shorts look on the ok side. As one of the last 20 actual Celtics fans left in the world who appreciate the history and tradition surrounding the team I naturally feat change. That’s why they make me sick.

    I actually don’t mind the St. Patrick’s Day unis because at least that is embracing Boston’s Irish history and are worn for a specific day and not just thrown on whenever they feel like they should wear a different uniform. To me the Celtics uniform is the most aesthetically appealing uniform in sports because of its simplicity.

    On another note I don’t really like the addition of the shamrock to the waist of the shorts or to the back of the jersey either.

  • tuffy | November 20, 2006 at 10:36 am |

    i love the green jerseys of nd, but aren’t they supposed to be for something special? i’m having a hard time seeing how a drubbing of army qualifies for the green jersey.

    have a nice day

    tuf

  • Paul Lukas | November 20, 2006 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”23786″]I watched part of the Rams game on the Direct TV package and the announcer stated that this was the first time the Rams wore white pants since the move from LA.[/quote]

    Actually, reader Ron Shaver just informed me that they wore the white pants back in August, for a preseason game. But I’m pretty sure this was the first time they’ve worn them during the regular season.

  • BJ L. | November 20, 2006 at 10:37 am |
  • Nick | November 20, 2006 at 10:43 am |

    I think Senior Day would qualify as special enough.

    Plus, they were probably sick of wearing the jerseys against good teams and losing. Break em out on a day that’s special, but against a crappy team, instant reversal of fortunes.

    As much as I despise ND, those green unis are fantastic. Whenever I play Michigan at ND in NCAA football, I switch the unis to the green.

    Actually, that’s a whole different topic. Anyone else like me who loves making sure the unis on the opposing teams are the best possible when playing video games?

    It’s one of my pet peeves with NHL 06. In the dynasty mode, you can’t change the opposing team’s jersey.

  • Bouj | November 20, 2006 at 10:44 am |

    As to the ban on the black NBA alts, the Rockets were supposed to get a black alt this season. My buddy does the lettering for the team (Paul interviewed him for an ESPN article a while back) and he actually got to see one of them.

    After the NBA Draft came and went and there was no unveiling, the topic came up on the local sports radio show in Houston about 6 weeks ago. They called the Rockets to find out why the black jersey wasn’t unveiled yet, and the Rockets said the NBA killed it for this season because they are not approving any new black alts.

  • Ben | November 20, 2006 at 10:49 am |

    Re: The Wizards alternate unis.

    I really don’t get these. I suppose the case could be made for the gold since there is a bit of cold in the original home and away unis, and there is a bit of a throwback to the days of the Bullets with the stars and stripes, but I recall someone saying on another board that the new unis, particularly the colors were a tribute to the “old school days of the Bullets.”

    Wha?? The Bullets never had gold or black in their color scheme, even back when they were playing in Baltimore. The colors were orange and blue, which changed to red and blue.

  • bob in hopewell | November 20, 2006 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”23789″]i love the green jerseys of nd, but aren’t they supposed to be for something special? i’m having a hard time seeing how a drubbing of army qualifies for the green jersey.[/quote]

    huge Irish fan here, and yeah, they usually break out the green’s for a ‘big’ game…..got a little scared since they lost to USC last year, and an underdog BC team a few years back. Weis said that he wanted to honor the seniors and wear them one last time.

    Paul, glad you liked Picklefest, snuck up on me this year and i missed it

  • Kim | November 20, 2006 at 10:58 am |

    This is rare. I’m going to defend the Bullets/Wizards.

    I like the new uni. It builds on their color scheme without resorting to black.

    Also, if it were monochromatic (i.e. the shorts have the same color as the top) wouldn’t that be just a little bit too much of the shimmery material?

  • Big Ed | November 20, 2006 at 11:03 am |

    great commentary on the ND green alt. unis….I too was under the impression that they were strictly reserved for “special” games…BUT they have been losing in them as of late…the USC game was a heartbreaker for sure…great use of them though…not a bigger game last year in the NCAA arguably…the BC game was another crusher for the green…i actually had money on BC and when the Irish came out w/ them on i thought i was screwed for sure…that ass clown Tyrone Willingham used the green TOO much…trying to cover up for his shitty coaching by being gimmicky and hoping nobody would notice that he was crap…

  • Terry Mark | November 20, 2006 at 11:06 am |

    I’m in agreement with Brandon T. and Nick. I’m no fan of Notre Dame, but I think their green jerseys look great and I appreciate how the football program uses them: as a surprise and not some cynical marketing shtick. Some teams wear their “alternates” so often it renders the word meaningless.

    Also, I’m going to have to side with the Wizards on their two-tone look. Anything that reminds me of my favorite basketball movie, “Hoosiers” (remember the red-over-gold unis of the Hickory Huskers?) is good.

  • bob in hopewell | November 20, 2006 at 11:06 am |

    amen to that big ed

  • Seattle Matt | November 20, 2006 at 11:06 am |

    Here’s some possible photo proof of DeAngelo Williams’s Memphis mouthpiece (photo courtesy of yahoo, enlarged mouthpiece + Tiger logo for reference)

    judge for yourself

  • KT | November 20, 2006 at 11:09 am |

    I knew I’d seen the Rams in white pants at some point recently.

    Glad the NBA is cracking down on the played-out and gangsta black alts.

    Just out of curiosity, where does Army get its cheerleaders? They’re not female cadets, are they? Because that wouldn’t seem to me to be a very Army-like thing to do.

  • mike | November 20, 2006 at 11:15 am |

    You’re wrong about those Nets alternative jerseys. They look great.

  • Beefalo | November 20, 2006 at 11:18 am |

    An eBay listing that seems to be taunting Paul…Nike and purple together?

    eBay listing with Uni Watch reference

  • Tim | November 20, 2006 at 11:24 am |

    Regarding BC and the Jay McGillis scholarship: I was the local TV play-by-play guy for Brockton High School football when Jay played there before going off to BC. He was an undersized, overachieving defensive back and by all accounts a great kid – it was a real tragedy when he died so young. As I live in Colorado now I hadn’t heard about the number tribute, but I think it’s a nice touch.

  • Chris Mewett | November 20, 2006 at 11:29 am |

    [quote comment=”23773″]the purple/yellow soccer ball: it’s been discussed here before. in Europe, they use a “winter ball” for the wintery months when snow is likely, so the ball is visible against the snow, unlike the traditional white ball.[/quote]It’s actually more a question of visibility due to light conditions than visibility in the snow. A significant portion of the season in many European leagues takes place during the months where the sun is never very high in the sky, and even a 3pm match is more of a dusk-game than a day-game.

  • Matt R. | November 20, 2006 at 11:32 am |

    Regarding the Notre Dame green jerseys, I listened to the post game on the radio. Coach Weis was asked, and said that his son came up with the idea to honor the team’s seniors.

  • Benji | November 20, 2006 at 11:32 am |

    ND used to wear the green jerseys for special games but apparently beating up on an overmatched team now counts as a special game. It would have made more sense to break out green jerseys for USC next week (or at least green numbers a la the 1992 Sugar Bowl) but Weis wasn’t about to lose in them.

  • spt | November 20, 2006 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”23807″]I knew I’d seen the Rams in white pants at some point recently.

    Glad the NBA is cracking down on the played-out and gangsta black alts.

    Just out of curiosity, where does Army get its cheerleaders? They’re not female cadets, are they? Because that wouldn’t seem to me to be a very Army-like thing to do.[/quote]

    There have been female cadets for a while. Women are also allowed to vote.

    [There’s no reason for comments like this. -webmaster edit]

  • Chris Mewett | November 20, 2006 at 11:34 am |

    [quote comment=”23807″]Just out of curiosity, where does Army get its cheerleaders? They’re not female cadets, are they? Because that wouldn’t seem to me to be a very Army-like thing to do.[/quote]Yes, the service academies’ cheerleaders are cadets/midshipmen.

  • KT | November 20, 2006 at 11:53 am |

    I know there have been female cadets for a while, ****. It just seemed dichotomous to me that someone would be a soldier and a cheerleader.

    *******

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | November 20, 2006 at 11:54 am |

    last nba team to wear 2 tone outside of the bulls?
    the sixers on a retro night…
    http://www.alleniver...

    all though im not a “domer” by any means, id love to see them have 4 jerseys,
    the navy/white,
    the white/navy,
    but switch the green/gold to white trimmed in gold,
    and bring back the white with the green trimmed in gold, like the 92 sugar bowl.

    polka? luk, you need to come to the lehigh valley for musikfest…

  • Kevin Walsh | November 20, 2006 at 12:00 pm |

    The Broncos broke out the all-blues yesterday. didn’t work out since the Chargers beat them in Denver, which never happens.

    http://www.forgotten...

  • Riff | November 20, 2006 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”23786″]I watched part of the Rams game on the Direct TV package and the announcer stated that this was the first time the Rams wore white pants since the move from LA.[/quote]

    I distinctly remember the Rams wearing the white pants a few years ago. After some extensive searching, I can’t find a thing. Maybe I’m thinking preseason. But I swear I’ve seen them before…

    But I did stumble across this.

  • Jason | November 20, 2006 at 12:21 pm |

    Seattle Matt:

    Here’s some possible photo proof of DeAngelo Williams’s Memphis mouthpiece (photo courtesy of yahoo, enlarged mouthpiece + Tiger logo for reference)

    Looks like it to me. Well done!!

  • David T | November 20, 2006 at 12:22 pm |

    The BC link above got me thinking of another jersey-related tribute that, I think, is still in place. Iowa State has a native Iowan each season wear #40 in honor of Chris Street, an Iowa player from Indianola, IA, who was killed in a traffic accident in mid-season in 1993. Iowa retired Street’s jersey, and Iowa State instituted the tradition. I can’t find a good link that describes it other than this, but as far as I know it’s still going on. This article also mentions that Street was buried in his uniform and warmups he wore for his last game, against Duke.

  • David T | November 20, 2006 at 12:23 pm |

    Whoops, here’s the link.

    http://www.mndaily.c...

  • ard | November 20, 2006 at 12:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”23805″]Here’s some possible photo proof of DeAngelo Williams’s Memphis mouthpiece (photo courtesy of yahoo, enlarged mouthpiece + Tiger logo for reference)

    judge for yourself[/quote]

    I don’t know if these will help but i think you can see a logo at the top of the mouthpiece. i saw last monday’s game where the tv close up clearly showed the u of m logo. sorry i can’t do all the fancy zooming.

  • SuperJon | November 20, 2006 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”23787″]I don’t know if any of you are familiar with Lexington, Virginia but I traveled there from Fort Worth for a wedding this weekend. It’s the home of Washington & Lee and VMI – who played Liberty U in some fine red and gold unis. A beautiful college town to say the least, and some nice uniforms, pictures here[/quote]

    I was at the game as well. There are more pictures at http://www.flamesspo.... Just click on the link that says “For GW-VMI, click here.” It was my first trip to VMI and I loved it.

  • Ben | November 20, 2006 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”23819″]I know there have been female cadets for a while, ****. It just seemed dichotomous to me that someone would be a soldier and a cheerleader.*******[/quote]

    You obviously know nothing about the history of either the Naval Academy, the Air Force Academy or West point.

    Long before women were admitted to the academies, there were cheerleaders during games, and they were male.

    Oh, the shock and horror!!!!

    Give me a break.

    As for Kim’s comment that the wizards new alt “builds on their color scheme without resorting to black, HELLO??!!!!

    The shorts are black. The stars are black. The second color in the alt is black. How is that not resorting to black?

    And if it’s true that the NBA has banned the use of black for alt uni prime colors, then I’m all for it, as it’s boring and lazy cop-out.

  • joe | November 20, 2006 at 12:43 pm |

    College FB unis are great, but the NCAA ought to make the teams wear socks up to the knees. I mean, the NCAA mandates everything else that goes on, why not something that is aesthetically necessary? And has the NFL gotten sloppy when enforcing their own uniform codes? I’m noticing shirt tails out and various sock configurations that are disrupting the uniformity of the teams.

    The Titans powder blue pants worked very well yesterday, although the striping was inconsistent, kind of like the Patriots striping inconsistencies. Call me crazy, but I’ve always been of the opinion that the pants stripe should somehow match the sleeve striping. Same deal with the Rams yesterday.

  • Kim | November 20, 2006 at 12:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”23830″][quote comment=”23819″]I know there have been female cadets for a while, ****. It just seemed dichotomous to me that someone would be a soldier and a cheerleader.*******[/quote]

    You obviously know nothing about the history of either the Naval Academy, the Air Force Academy or West point.

    Long before women were admitted to the academies, there were cheerleaders during games, and they were male.

    Oh, the shock and horror!!!!

    Give me a break.

    As for Kim’s comment that the wizards new alt “builds on their color scheme without resorting to black, HELLO??!!!!

    The shorts are black. The stars are black. The second color in the alt is black. How is that not resorting to black?

    And if it’s true that the NBA has banned the use of black for alt uni prime colors, then I’m all for it, as it’s boring and lazy cop-out.[/quote]

    Black shorts, and black trime, whoopee.

    They could have gone with an all black look. Which is what a lot of teams would have done. They went with a different look without resorting to that.

    As for the military academies and cheerleading, it’s a little something called esprit de corps. And a critical building block for teamwork and leadership. Two character elements that are pretty darned critical on a battlefield.

  • Jack H. | November 20, 2006 at 12:57 pm |

    Nothing on Mike Nolan’s suit? I’m shocked.

    And as far as ND goes, I think that the gold letters especially make the green jersey the awesome thing that it is. As a huge ND fan I much prefer these darker ones to the ones they wore under Willingham.

  • Kenny | November 20, 2006 at 1:03 pm |
  • joe | November 20, 2006 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”23807″]I knew
    Just out of curiosity, where does Army get its cheerleaders? They’re not female cadets, are they? Because that wouldn’t seem to me to be a very Army-like thing to do.[/quote]

    I don’t see his question as all that inappropriate. From the picture the cheerleaders look like any other pretty college cheerleaders. At first glance I didn’t think they were officer trainees either, but then figured that the military would not be so wasteful as to import cheerleaders for football games (or would they? – after all, the coaches are usually not servicemen).

    From most of our own experiences with cheerleaders, I think we could vouch that many if not most practicing cheerleaders do not have the mindset necessary to enroll in a service academy – in other words they lack the aggressive tendencies that we would associate with military men and women (except Carolina Panthers cheerleaders) but this viewpoint is after all a stereotype. KT was simply asking a question since the paradigms of cheerleader and soldier seem to easily clash. He doesn’t deserve the grief ya’ll are giving him.

  • Brad | November 20, 2006 at 1:13 pm |

    About Nolan’s socks, I read somewhere that it was a nod to the older coaches and I thought I read where Lombardi also wore white socks with his shoes

  • John Ekdahl | November 20, 2006 at 1:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”23835″]KT was simply asking a question since the paradigms of cheerleader and soldier seem to easily clash. He doesn’t deserve the grief ya’ll are giving him.[/quote]
    You are exactly right. Everyone cool it.

  • Kevin | November 20, 2006 at 1:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”23823″][quote comment=”23786″]I watched part of the Rams game on the Direct TV package and the announcer stated that this was the first time the Rams wore white pants since the move from LA.[/quote]

    I distinctly remember the Rams wearing the white pants a few years ago.

    After some extensive searching, I can’t find a thing. Maybe I’m thinking preseason. But I swear I’ve seen them before…

    But I did stumble across this.[/quote]

    I seem to remember the white on white myself from a previous season, so you are not alone, my friend.

  • Matthew S. | November 20, 2006 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”23781″]I can’t find a picture of them, but I’m almost certain the OSU cheer leaders went really old school with sweaters and skirts during the game this saturday.[/quote]

    I think USC’s cheerleaders wear somewhat retro cheerleading sweaters. While I LOATHE USC, I had to pick my jaw up off the floor after seeing them festooned with roses late in the game against Cal on Saturday night. They always seem to be wearing those white sweaters which seem like they came from the movie ‘Hoosiers’ (though they adorn the USC ladies much better). They keep the uniforms simple.

    USC cheerleaders at the 2006 Rose Bowl: http://images.google...

  • Bryan | November 20, 2006 at 1:34 pm |

    ND Grad….I love THIS version of the green jerseys. You’re right the gold numbers/white lining make the jersey look special. Much better than the Willingham Version and even the Green Numbered versions

    And I had no problem with them wearing the jerseys on Saturday. The green jersey had a sort of ‘jinx’ going on since Gerry Faust and Lou Holtz tried to destroy them. Even saturday some fans saw the green jersey and went “Ah shit”…Better to ‘break’ that curse sooner against a lesser team than later

  • Miguel | November 20, 2006 at 1:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”23842″]I think USC’s cheerleaders wear somewhat retro cheerleading sweaters. While I LOATHE USC, I had to pick my jaw up off the floor after seeing them festooned with roses late in the game against Cal on Saturday night. They always seem to be wearing those white sweaters which seem like they came from the movie ‘Hoosiers’ (though they adorn the USC ladies much better). They keep the uniforms simple.

    USC cheerleaders at the 2006 Rose Bowl: http://images.google...

    Here’s another good photo of the Song Girls from this year’s Rose Bowl.

  • Dr. Blogstein | November 20, 2006 at 1:46 pm |

    I wish the Nets would bring back the old school Stars and Stripes uniforms. The red alternets belong in the same place they buried the Nets’ tie dyed uniforms of the early 90’s.

  • MetsFan AZ | November 20, 2006 at 1:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”23846″]I wish the Nets would bring back the old school Stars and Stripes uniforms. The red alternets belong in the same place they buried the Nets’ tie dyed uniforms of the early 90’s.[/quote]
    Tie Dyed? Did Bill Walton play for the Nets? pics please…

  • Dan from PC | November 20, 2006 at 1:57 pm |

    i’ve been looking for pics from the 1992 sugar bowl everyone is pointing to that Notre Dame wore green numbers in, and cant find any…anyone have some photographic evidence?

  • Mark in Shiga | November 20, 2006 at 2:00 pm |

    One more shot of the previous Rutgers uniforms, for you Scarlet Knight fans.

    And I like both the red Nets’ alteernates and the Wizards’ gold and black!

  • Harry | November 20, 2006 at 2:00 pm |

    There is a Yahoo Group
    with lots of pictures of cheerleaders in retro uniforms. I think some of the pictures go back to the 30s but most are from the 50s, 60s and 70s.

  • Chris Mewett | November 20, 2006 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”23830″]As for Kim’s comment that the wizards new alt “builds on their color scheme without resorting to black, HELLO??!!!!

    The shorts are black. The stars are black. The second color in the alt is black. How is that not resorting to black?

    And if it’s true that the NBA has banned the use of black for alt uni prime colors, then I’m all for it, as it’s boring and lazy cop-out.[/quote]Pretty sure they’re actually navy, angry guy.

  • Smail | November 20, 2006 at 2:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”23845″][quote comment=”23842″]I think USC’s cheerleaders wear somewhat retro cheerleading sweaters. While I LOATHE USC, I had to pick my jaw up off the floor after seeing them festooned with roses late in the game against Cal on Saturday night. They always seem to be wearing those white sweaters which seem like they came from the movie ‘Hoosiers’ (though they adorn the USC ladies much better). They keep the uniforms simple.

    USC cheerleaders at the 2006 Rose Bowl: http://images.google...

    Here’s another good photo of the Song Girls from this year’s Rose Bowl.[/quote]

    Worst Photoshop job ever. The double/ghosted face next to her left elbow is the most noticeable mistake.

  • Harry | November 20, 2006 at 2:04 pm |

    oops

  • TruBruin | November 20, 2006 at 2:04 pm |

    Wizards Alternate Unis.

    Wes Unseld Meets Wes Craven…Spooky ugly.

    http://us.i1.yimg.co...

    Creamer site had an article about a year ago from the ex-NBA vp.creative director who said Commissioner Stern blackballed black unis because he was watching ESPN highlights one night and all he saw from a distance was the home team in white playing the road team in black unis…(good point) in particular the Jazz as I recall wearing black and why would the Jazz ever wear black with a purple, green and blue logo palette???

  • Colin | November 20, 2006 at 2:06 pm |

    I dont know if this has already been addressed, but has anyone else noticed the chinstraps of some nfler’s helmets are riveted in now. I’ve only noticed it on chinstraps that are secured through the facemask. Hopefully the links work below.

    Riveted – http://www.packers.c...

    Snaps – http://sports.espn.g...

    P.S. Nice fur that Gilbert Brown wore as honorary captain in the Packer/Patriots games. I think he might have just ate the animal for breakfast.

    http://www.packers.c...

  • Joe | November 20, 2006 at 2:18 pm |

    I like the nets reds, its not like its some random color they came up with (Celtics blacks).

    Do the USC cheerleaders usually do that depending on the BCS bowl they are in? Like oranges for the orange bowl, Nachos for the Fiesta Bowl?

    I LOVE the Titans pants. i like all of the titans unis, but they look the best. i wonder how they would go with the Blue tops.

    I also like the Bronco’s blue pants, but they need to wear socks that are either all or mostly orange.

  • Frinklin | November 20, 2006 at 2:20 pm |

    Actually, that’s a whole different topic. Anyone else like me who loves making sure the unis on the opposing teams are the best possible when playing video games?

    Don’t pick up an XBOX 360 then. For Madden 07, they are no alt jersey combos. As a Seahawk fan, it drives me nuts that I can only pick from blue-on-blue-on-blue or the white on white.

    Can’t edit any players either, but that’s another aggravation.

  • Matthew S. | November 20, 2006 at 2:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”23864″]I like the nets reds, its not like its some random color they came up with (Celtics blacks).

    Do the USC cheerleaders usually do that depending on the BCS bowl they are in? Like oranges for the orange bowl, Nachos for the Fiesta Bowl?

    I LOVE the Titans pants. i like all of the titans unis, but they look the best. i wonder how they would go with the Blue tops.

    I also like the Bronco’s blue pants, but they need to wear socks that are either all or mostly orange.[/quote]

    I’m not sure. I’ve seen them wear the roses on the uniform a few times in the past (that is, before they lost to UT in the 2006 Rose Bowl), but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen cheerleaders other than USC do this and I don’t think I’ve ever seen USC cheerleaders do anything but roses for the Rose Bowl (being a PAC-10 team, I’m not sure they would ever go to the Orange Bowl. If I’m wrong on that, someone let me know). A quick glimpse through Google Images didn’t turn up anything either.

  • Broker75 | November 20, 2006 at 2:34 pm |

    When and why did Kobe Bryant change from being number 8 to 24.

  • mike | November 20, 2006 at 2:38 pm |

    first of all, im all for alternate jerseys! it breaks up the monotony that regular jersey combinations often make. id love to see some nfl who do not have alternate jerseys, get one:

    packers-yellow
    steelers-yellow
    49ers-gold
    saints-gold
    bills-red
    etc…

  • Kenny | November 20, 2006 at 2:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”23869″]When and why did Kobe Bryant change from being number 8 to 24.[/quote]

    Is this going to be the new Kenny Rogers BP hat

  • skott | November 20, 2006 at 2:50 pm |

    the ohio state cheerleader unis the other night were AMAZING.

    i’m a huge USC cheerleader fan, too.

    i like ’em old school like that.

    i love the BC thing and i LOVED the rams uniform thing…very cool uni’s. i hate the new gold and dark blue. yuck. too 2000ish for my taste.

  • ryan | November 20, 2006 at 2:53 pm |

    Speaking of the Broncos socks, why do you see that orange stripe on some players, but you don’t see it on others? Is it part of the blue sock, the low white, or a third sock altogether (which I’d doubt). Ideas?

  • Matthew S. | November 20, 2006 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”23870″]first of all, im all for alternate jerseys! it breaks up the monotony that regular jersey combinations often make. id love to see some nfl who do not have alternate jerseys, get one:

    packers-yellow
    steelers-yellow
    49ers-gold
    saints-gold
    bills-red
    etc…[/quote]

    The Saints do have Gold alternates. And I love how the example from this website is an Aaron Brooks jersey. Too funny for words.

    Gold: http://www.footballf...

  • al | November 20, 2006 at 2:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”23769″][quote comment=”23756″]I don’t know how to say this Paul, but your pose next to the lederhosen guy makes you look like some sort of polka groupie.[/quote]

    And what exactly would be wrong with that? Polka rocks![/quote]
    Paul, what are those hose called, the segmented socks? Those are sweet, I need a pair of those to play soccer with. :)

  • Kim | November 20, 2006 at 2:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”23869″]When and why did Kobe Bryant change from being number 8 to 24.[/quote]

    When? This year

    Why? $$$$$$

  • Sean Janssen | November 20, 2006 at 2:57 pm |

    The Washington State Cougars donned the old “Cougars” script helmets for Apple Cup the third year in a row this weekend. Unfortunately, they didn’t stay undefeated in them, however. They also took the striping off the pants for the game.

  • matt | November 20, 2006 at 2:57 pm |

    Watching the Maui Invitational
    Those Memphis uni’s are an abomination
    Horizontal, diagonal, vertical stripes
    looks like tetris

  • al | November 20, 2006 at 3:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”23777″]Actually, I don’t mind the Nets’ all-reds. But the Dr. J red/white/blues are hard to beat.

    Those Wizards jerseys are just butt ugly. It’s not because they’re two-tone, though that’s not so hot. They just look teh ghey.

    I believe I’ve seen the Rams in those white pants before.

    And ND’s greens are cool when used in moderation.[/quote]
    Those Dr. J red/white/blues are very sweet. They’ve recently (past two seasons) used this as their throwback, but it’s not the same thing.
    1. the current throwbacks are too baggy (read current) &
    2. the shoulder ‘straps’ (however that’s referred to) are too wide, they should be very narrow.

    Those Dr. J, billy melchionni, Billy Paultz, Larry Kenon uniforms are why I became an ABA fan and a Net fan to this day !!!! Silly bugger that I am.

  • Kenny | November 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”23876″]Speaking of the Broncos socks, why do you see that orange stripe on some players, but you don’t see it on others? Is it part of the blue sock, the low white, or a third sock altogether (which I’d doubt). Ideas?[/quote]

    It looks like the white part is just pushed up over the orange. If you look hard enough you can see some orange

  • Nick | November 20, 2006 at 3:04 pm |

    Out of curiousity did anyone else notice last night that the chargers had their numbers on their buckles of their chinsraps at the tops of the helmet, I dont have any pictures but I noticed it on alot of the players.

  • joe | November 20, 2006 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”23876″]Speaking of the Broncos socks, why do you see that orange stripe on some players, but you don’t see it on others? Is it part of the blue sock, the low white, or a third sock altogether (which I’d doubt). Ideas?[/quote]

    The orange stripe is on the uniform knee sock. Some of the players are wearing navy blue knee-high hosiery and pulling regular white athletic socks up to the approximate same height. If I were a coach I’d hit my players with a hefty fine for this. For some reason its a widely replicated look even though it makes the player look like he’s mentally challenged and can’t dress himself. My beloved Bumskins are a major malfeaser.

  • Paul Lukas | November 20, 2006 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”23884″]Out of curiousity did anyone else notice last night that the chargers had their numbers on their buckles of their chinsraps at the tops of the helmet, I dont have any pictures but I noticed it on alot of the players.[/quote]

    They’ve been doing this for several years. The Chiefs do it, too. To my knowledge, they’re the only teams with uni-numbered chinstraps.

  • joe | November 20, 2006 at 3:16 pm |

    On second glance, it looks like the Bronco in your example may just have his socks rolled in such a fashion as to disguise the orange stripe.

  • Smail | November 20, 2006 at 3:19 pm |

    Regarding the Ohio State football cheerleaders:
    This is what they normally wear.
    Unless it’s really cold, then they wear these.
    Last week, against Northwestern, they wore unis with a little more stripage.
    And this is what they wore on Saturday.
    It’s also worth noting that this is not the first time the cheerleaders have worn throwback uniforms this season. For the Indiana game a few weeks back, they sported 70’s throwbacks.

  • STUBZ | November 20, 2006 at 3:31 pm |

    I think I despise the Eagles’ black jerseys more than the two-tone uniforms on the Wizards. Also, I don’t understand why Washington would wear Black/Gold jerseys. What are they, the Capitals?

  • ngruz25 | November 20, 2006 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”23815″]ND used to wear the green jerseys for special games but apparently beating up on an overmatched team now counts as a special game. It would have made more sense to break out green jerseys for USC next week (or at least green numbers a la the 1992 Sugar Bowl) but Weis wasn’t about to lose in them.[/quote]

    I won’t speak to your first point, because it’s been addressed already, but Notre Dame is on the road against USC next week, so they couldn’t wear the green.

  • Broker75 | November 20, 2006 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”23879″][quote comment=”23869″]When and why did Kobe Bryant change from being number 8 to 24.[/quote]

    When? This year

    Why? $$$$$$[/quote]

    Thanks Kim :D
    But is $$$$ the actual reason?
    I thought it would be out of respect for somebody or something, or just didn’t enjoy wearing 8.
    Money Talks I guess.
    Silly me, I mentioned the word respect with an NBA player in the same sentence, WOOPS.

  • Kyle O. | November 20, 2006 at 3:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”23815″]ND used to wear the green jerseys for special games but apparently beating up on an overmatched team now counts as a special game. It would have made more sense to break out green jerseys for USC next week (or at least green numbers a la the 1992 Sugar Bowl) but Weis wasn’t about to lose in them.[/quote]
    As explained in this article the green jerseys were not used because of the game they were playing but instead were used to honor what coach Weis deemed a “special” senior class during their last home game.

  • jay | November 20, 2006 at 3:49 pm |

    What is the decision process for a football team to chose between placing the number on top of the shoulder or on the outer side of the shoulder?

  • Chris | November 20, 2006 at 3:54 pm |

    I must say, I’m proud of my high school alma mater’s choice of basketball apparel. Thought you all might like this and this.

  • Chris | November 20, 2006 at 3:56 pm |

    Almost forgot to mention, it is Bellmont High School in Decatur, IN.

  • Riff | November 20, 2006 at 4:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”23870″]first of all, im all for alternate jerseys! it breaks up the monotony that regular jersey combinations often make. id love to see some nfl who do not have alternate jerseys, get one:

    packers-yellow
    steelers-yellow
    49ers-gold
    saints-gold
    bills-red
    etc…[/quote]

    Geez those would be as bad as or worse than Chicago’s orange. The normal ones look fine, no need to stray from them! Although I think the Bills could use another revamping, or simply use their current throwbacks (OJ era white helmets and royal blue jerseys). But none of those jerseys you mentioned should be messed with or added to.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | November 20, 2006 at 4:04 pm |

    what a defense the eagles had in the early 90s…
    its unreal that 3 are now gone…
    http://www.philadelp...

  • Ben | November 20, 2006 at 4:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”23852″][quote comment=”23830″]As for Kim’s comment that the wizards new alt “builds on their color scheme without resorting to black, HELLO??!!!!

    The shorts are black. The stars are black. The second color in the alt is black. How is that not resorting to black?

    And if it’s true that the NBA has banned the use of black for alt uni prime colors, then I’m all for it, as it’s boring and lazy cop-out.[/quote]Pretty sure they’re actually navy, angry guy.[/quote]

    No, they are black.

    Not Navy-black or Black-navy.

    Black.
    Re: Kobe Bryant changing his number. There are a couple of reasons:

    1)So he can sell the most jerseys.

    2) It’s a not so subtle way for him to try and position himself as the best player in the game. his new uni number is one higher then Lebrons and Jordans.

  • Phil | November 20, 2006 at 4:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”23894″][quote comment=”23879″][quote comment=”23869″]When and why did Kobe Bryant change from being number 8 to 24.[/quote]

    When? This year

    Why? $$$$$$[/quote]

    Thanks Kim :D
    But is $$$$ the actual reason?
    I thought it would be out of respect for somebody or something, or just didn’t enjoy wearing 8.
    Money Talks I guess.
    Silly me, I mentioned the word respect with an NBA player in the same sentence, WOOPS.[/quote]
    Who is the $$$$ talking to? Is it Kobe or is it the NBA? How would Kobe make any money by changing his number?

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | November 20, 2006 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”23903″][quote comment=”23894″][quote comment=”23879″][quote comment=”23869″]When and why did Kobe Bryant change from being number 8 to 24.[/quote]

    When? This year

    Why? $$$$$$[/quote]

    Thanks Kim :D
    But is $$$$ the actual reason?
    I thought it would be out of respect for somebody or something, or just didn’t enjoy wearing 8.
    Money Talks I guess.
    Silly me, I mentioned the word respect with an NBA player in the same sentence, WOOPS.[/quote]
    Who is the $$$$ talking to? Is it Kobe or is it the NBA? How would Kobe make any money by changing his number?[/quote]

    when this first came out (in june?) someone on this blog had the best reason why kobe changed from 8 to 24… because he was wasnt a fan of dale jr anymore, his new favorite driver was jeff gordon.

  • Kim | November 20, 2006 at 4:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”23891″]I think I despise the Eagles’ black jerseys more than the two-tone uniforms on the Wizards. Also, I don’t understand why Washington would wear Black/Gold jerseys. What are they, the Capitals?[/quote]

    The Wiz and Caps have the same color template. Goes back to the old man Abe Pollin owning both (before freeing the Caps to Ted Leonsis).

    The bronze and black have always been in the Wiz uniforms, but mainly as trim.

    The Caps will be wearing Red, White and Blue next year when the templates come rolling in to the NHL.

  • StevieW | November 20, 2006 at 4:20 pm |

    I have a close friend who graduated from West Point in 1995. I asked a similar question about the cheerleaders at the time, about it didn’t seem logical to be both officers in training and cheerleaders. He said the female cheerleaders at the time were actually students from nearby prep schools, academies, and high schools that tried out to be on the Army (West Point) Cheerleading squad. It may have changed since then, but they were not cadets at the time. Looking closely at the female cheerleaders, their hair looks longer than the standard allowed for women in the military and they look a little younger to me as well. Could still be the case ?

  • C.N. | November 20, 2006 at 4:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”23800″]great commentary on the ND green alt. unis….I too was under the impression that they were strictly reserved for “special” games…BUT they have been losing in them as of late…the USC game was a heartbreaker for sure…great use of them though…not a bigger game last year in the NCAA arguably…the BC game was another crusher for the green…i actually had money on BC and when the Irish came out w/ them on i thought i was screwed for sure…that ass clown Tyrone Willingham used the green TOO much…trying to cover up for his shitty coaching by being gimmicky and hoping nobody would notice that he was crap…[/quote]

    Call his coaching whatever you like, but who recruited the players on last year’s (and mostly this year’s) team? A coach is only as good as his players…

  • C.N. | November 20, 2006 at 4:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”23815″]ND used to wear the green jerseys for special games but apparently beating up on an overmatched team now counts as a special game. It would have made more sense to break out green jerseys for USC next week (or at least green numbers a la the 1992 Sugar Bowl) but Weis wasn’t about to lose in them.[/quote]

    They’ll be on the road next week. You know USC isn’t about to wear white at home.

  • DrBear | November 20, 2006 at 4:44 pm |

    I’d love to see the movie “An Officer and A Cheerleader.”

    And re: the player with two broken hands, as Alex Hawkins said on his last broadcast for CBS: “When you have two broken hands and have to go to the bathroom, that’s when you find out who your friends are.”

  • Broker75 | November 20, 2006 at 4:46 pm |

    Is this true? —>”The Caps will be wearing Red, White and Blue next year when the templates come rolling in to the NHL”.

    Awesome!

  • C.N. | November 20, 2006 at 4:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”23868″][quote comment=”23864″]I like the nets reds, its not like its some random color they came up with (Celtics blacks).

    Do the USC cheerleaders usually do that depending on the BCS bowl they are in? Like oranges for the orange bowl, Nachos for the Fiesta Bowl?

    I LOVE the Titans pants. i like all of the titans unis, but they look the best. i wonder how they would go with the Blue tops.

    I also like the Bronco’s blue pants, but they need to wear socks that are either all or mostly orange.[/quote]

    I’m not sure. I’ve seen them wear the roses on the uniform a few times in the past (that is, before they lost to UT in the 2006 Rose Bowl), but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen cheerleaders other than USC do this and I don’t think I’ve ever seen USC cheerleaders do anything but roses for the Rose Bowl (being a PAC-10 team, I’m not sure they would ever go to the Orange Bowl. If I’m wrong on that, someone let me know). A quick glimpse through Google Images didn’t turn up anything either.[/quote]

    They played in the National Championship Game in the Orange Bowl two or three years ago, and the Song Girls (they’re not cheerleaders, or so they say) wore oranges as well. I have no pictures of this.

  • mg12 | November 20, 2006 at 4:50 pm |

    I just noticed that Todd McFarlane has come out with the latest series of his “Cooperstown Collection” of 6″ baseball figures.

    http://spawn.com/new...

    It’s pretty sweet. Cardinals fans can rejoice that he has captured Ozzie Smith in mid-backflip. Uni-related, he has Steve Carlton in the Phillies baby blues.

  • Kim | November 20, 2006 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”23912″]Is this true? —>”The Caps will be wearing Red, White and Blue next year when the templates come rolling in to the NHL”.

    Awesome![/quote]

    That’s the prevailing rumor. Here’s a link to a Washington Post chat with their beat writer. Ted Leonsis has alluded to it in the past, too.

    They’ve apparently wanted to do it for a little while but didn’t want to saddle the fans with buying multiple jerseys by buying an old style, and then the newer sleeker look.

  • C.N. | November 20, 2006 at 4:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”23906″]I have a close friend who graduated from West Point in 1995. I asked a similar question about the cheerleaders at the time, about it didn’t seem logical to be both officers in training and cheerleaders. He said the female cheerleaders at the time were actually students from nearby prep schools, academies, and high schools that tried out to be on the Army (West Point) Cheerleading squad. It may have changed since then, but they were not cadets at the time. Looking closely at the female cheerleaders, their hair looks longer than the standard allowed for women in the military and they look a little younger to me as well. Could still be the case ?[/quote]

    Good catch… and stated in a very non-jerkish way… impressive.

  • Broker75 | November 20, 2006 at 4:55 pm |

    “This web site turned six months old last Friday. Thanks to everyone who’s helped make this a really great half-year — looking forward to more”.

    This site is addictive! Thanks Paul. :D

  • Andy #11 | November 20, 2006 at 4:57 pm |

    Anyone see the t-shirt sleeves hanging out below Troy Smith’s jersey? One side was gray, the other side was red (or scarlet…). The left side had a swooooosh on it. Don’t have a pic.

    Also, is it just me, or do Jake Plummer’s jersey sleeves always seem like they’re way too long. This image isn’t from last night, but it’s like this every time I’ve seen him play. It’s like his jersey is a few sizes too large. Anyone else ever notice this?

  • subway | November 20, 2006 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”23847″][quote comment=”23846″]I wish the Nets would bring back the old school Stars and Stripes uniforms. The red alternets belong in the same place they buried the Nets’ tie dyed uniforms of the early 90’s.[/quote]
    Tie Dyed? Did Bill Walton play for the Nets? pics please…[/quote]
    Pics

  • David L | November 20, 2006 at 5:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”23831″]College FB unis are great, but the NCAA ought to make the teams wear socks up to the knees. I mean, the NCAA mandates everything else that goes on, why not something that is aesthetically necessary? And has the NFL gotten sloppy when enforcing their own uniform codes? I’m noticing shirt tails out and various sock configurations that are disrupting the uniformity of the teams.
    [/quote]

    Really?
    I love college FB socks.
    Why should college teams have to wear them high just like the NFL? Uniformity is good, but conformity is a whole different issue.

    It seems like socks are more uniform in the NCAA anyway, while there may be differing heights and styles of socks, everyone on the team has to wear the same ones, there’s no low whites/high whites like in the NFL.

    I was a little upset when i saw Michigan had gone to the high socks as oposed to the low ones they used to wear.

  • Gary | November 20, 2006 at 5:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”23906″]I have a close friend who graduated from West Point in 1995. I asked a similar question about the cheerleaders at the time, about it didn’t seem logical to be both officers in training and cheerleaders. He said the female cheerleaders at the time were actually students from nearby prep schools, academies, and high schools that tried out to be on the Army (West Point) Cheerleading squad. It may have changed since then, but they were not cadets at the time. Looking closely at the female cheerleaders, their hair looks longer than the standard allowed for women in the military and they look a little younger to me as well. Could still be the case ?[/quote]

    Not according to this article. It is from 2002, but I would assume the same holds true today.

  • todder85 | November 20, 2006 at 5:17 pm |

    ok, i wish i can find a pic of this, but last night during the grey cup, montreal’s qb anthony calvillo was missing the blue stripe on the front of his helmet. everyone else seemed to have theirs and calvillo has it on any other pic ive seen from this season. did i miss a hard hit off his head to strip the paint?

  • Jason | November 20, 2006 at 5:22 pm |

    Publically, Kobe Bryant said he changed numbers because it was time to move away from the past and look towards the future of his career with the Lakers. He had worn 24 before switching to 32 in high school.

    The rumored reason was that adidas re-released his orignial shoes, the KB8 as the Crazy 8’s and it made him mad, so he switched numbers to distance himself from a product, that in effect made fun of him.

  • Teebz | November 20, 2006 at 5:23 pm |

    Since someone mistakenly wrote that Kobe changed jersey numbers as a money-grabbing ploy, I’ll set the record straight.

    He wanted #24 from the time he entered the league with the Lakers. However, George McCloud wore #24 when Kobe entered the league. #24 was his high school number before switching to #33. #33 is, of course, retired by the Lakers in honor of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Instead, he chosed #8 in honor of his favorite Italian league player, Mike D’Antoni.

    He decided this year to switch back to his high school number. It wasn’t about money at all.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | November 20, 2006 at 5:25 pm |

    new jersey nets tie dye
    http://cache.gettyim...

    another team who went 2 tone
    sacramento kings
    http://cache.gettyim...

  • Teebz | November 20, 2006 at 5:26 pm |

    To add to my last post, he made the announcement on TNT that he was changing his number to signify the start of the second half of his career.

  • Chris Coleman | November 20, 2006 at 5:29 pm |

    Here is a gallery for the South Africa Springboks Throwback Jerseys against Ireland. Pretty sweet numbers, hun?

  • Minna H | November 20, 2006 at 5:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”23745″][quote comment=”23743″]
    Teebz, have you read all my comments on this issue? If you have, you’ll see that I have consistently said nice pants and nice shirt. I do not think coaches should wear suits, but it’s no skin off my nose if they do.

    For the last time, I have never said that the angry homeless guy should be the model for what coaches wear. Never. I never said that suits impede coaching in any way. All I am saying is that I, Minna H., prefer the sporty casual look (nice shirt, nice pants) to either the suit look or the sweats look.[/quote]

    I have read. I just wanted to be clear.

    You know it’s all in good fun, Minna. I’m not trying to be a bastard. :o)[/quote]

    Teebz, I know you weren’t trying to be a bastard, but I was tired of having to explain for the millionth time that my feelings on suits versus sweats was an aesthetic thing—supposedly the basis of this blog—and had nothing to do with function. In fact, I am pretty sure I never said anything about performance ability of clothing, which is why I was so exasperated that it kept coming up.

    Finally, there were other guys being jerks about the issue, as if I had said I ate babies for breakfast because I didn’t think coaches should wear suits. You happened to stumble in at the tail end of that frustrating exchange and took the brunt of it. Don’t worry, though. I’m going to do my level best not to weigh in on this issue ever again.

  • Minna H | November 20, 2006 at 5:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”23839″][quote comment=”23835″]KT was simply asking a question since the paradigms of cheerleader and soldier seem to easily clash. He doesn’t deserve the grief ya’ll are giving him.[/quote]
    You are exactly right. Everyone cool it.[/quote]

    I’m with Ek and joe on this one. KT asked a logical question and got jumped on for it. In fact, lately, there have been some less-than-tolerant responses posted. If your post includes, “How can anyone…”, “Get a grip…”, “What kind of idiot…” or variations of thus, don’t post it. Everyone has the right to his/her own opinion, and remember that everyone who posts is a real person with actual feelings. You can disagree with someone; just don’t make it a personal attack.

    Stepping off the soapbox and returning to the topic of unis.

  • Brian from Short Island | November 20, 2006 at 5:40 pm |

    Soccer stuff!
    1. Valencia’s uniforms are great. I love their crest.
    2. Barça has white in its crest.
    3. That ball in the eBay link is clearly a fake. Please no one buy it. However, it’s a decent illustration.
    4. Check out how the jerseys and numbering change for the Man United v Celtic (C’mon the hoops!) match tomorrow on ESPN2. It’s quite disgusting. They take out the hoops on the back of the Celtic shirt :/

  • Minna H | November 20, 2006 at 5:42 pm |

    Uni-related content

    I like the Eagles black alternates. In fact, I think I will start a campaign for more black unis in sports. I also like the Nets’ red alternates as red is my favorite color. I am a big fan of intense unis, especially red. I think everyone should have a black or red or both alternate.

    p.s. Before you start posting that “Are you out of your mind?” comment, I am kidding on the last sentence. I stand by the colors red and black, however.

  • Shane | November 20, 2006 at 6:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”23933″] It’s quite disgusting. They take out the hoops on the back of the Celtic shirt :/[/quote]

    UEFA requires that of every team with stripes/hoops for club compititions (such as the Champions League and the UEFA Cup).

  • Shane | November 20, 2006 at 6:06 pm |

    Actually, check this out. On the UEFA site, they show the backs of jerseys on the player’s information page. Weird.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | November 20, 2006 at 6:16 pm |

    this weekend someone remarked that the harvard uniform was bad. i always liked the tan pants. i always looked at the tan pants as the teams homage to the student body. sterotypical smart guys wearing khaki’s and a nice oxford.

    can anyone confirm that another “smart” school used the same tan pants with burgundy? if im not mistaken stanford wore the khaki for 1 season.

  • Josh | November 20, 2006 at 6:19 pm |

    The Grim Raper wore #8 in honor of Suns coach Mike D’Antoni.
    The Raper grew up in Italy (yeah, he’s really thug with his tats), where D’Antoni was a legend of the Italian League
    D’Antoni in Italy
    Coach D was the Grim Raper’s favorite player as a kid.

    After the playoffs last year (And getting owned by Raja Bell), the Grim Raper wanted to change his number and sever any ties to the Suns.

  • Teebz | November 20, 2006 at 6:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”23930″]Don’t worry, though. I’m going to do my level best not to weigh in on this issue ever again.[/quote]

    Love you too. ;o)

  • johnny miller | November 20, 2006 at 6:29 pm |

    Notre Dame should be ashamed. They whip out the green jerseys against a service academy and then run up the score during wartime.
    Did they just want to finally get a win wearing green for the first time since 1992.?

    Why not wear white/green next week against USC?

    MTFBWY
    Johnny Miller
    Talk show host , Las Vegas

  • Paul Lukas | November 20, 2006 at 6:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”23918″]is it just me, or do Jake Plummer’s jersey sleeves always seem like they’re way too long. This image isn’t from last night, but it’s like this every time I’ve seen him play. It’s like his jersey is a few sizes too large. Anyone else ever notice this?[/quote]

    This is what NFL sleeves have come to: a guy wears toally normal sleeves, no different than the ones on your T-shirt, and takes abuse for it. Maybe you’d prefer it if Plummer took sleeve advice from his teammates?

  • Grant | November 20, 2006 at 6:38 pm |

    I found this picture of the 1992 Sugar Bowl, in which Notre Dame wore the green numbers.I know it has been posted multiple times before how to get links in here, but I don’t remember how, so here is the address. I guess you’ll just have to copy and paste it.
    http://sjl-static2.s...

  • Minna H | November 20, 2006 at 6:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”23940″][quote comment=”23930″]Don’t worry, though. I’m going to do my level best not to weigh in on this issue ever again.[/quote]

    Love you too. ;o)[/quote]

    Ah, T. Cratchit. You do know how to jolly me out of a bad mood, don’t you? Slap up a pic of my Christmas present sans uniform, and all is forgiven, mon bon ami.

    M. Scrooge

  • Chuck Ryals | November 20, 2006 at 6:42 pm |

    Titans powder blues look good to me! reminds me of the Oilers. as for the Rams, I like their blue and white togs from the 70’s the best! green jerseys for ND are awesome.

  • Matt W | November 20, 2006 at 7:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”23913″][quote comment=”23868″][quote comment=”23864″]I like the nets reds, its not like its some random color they came up with (Celtics blacks).

    Do the USC cheerleaders usually do that depending on the BCS bowl they are in? Like oranges for the orange bowl, Nachos for the Fiesta Bowl?

    I LOVE the Titans pants. i like all of the titans unis, but they look the best. i wonder how they would go with the Blue tops.

    I also like the Bronco’s blue pants, but they need to wear socks that are either all or mostly orange.[/quote]

    I’m not sure. I’ve seen them wear the roses on the uniform a few times in the past (that is, before they lost to UT in the 2006 Rose Bowl), but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen cheerleaders other than USC do this and I don’t think I’ve ever seen USC cheerleaders do anything but roses for the Rose Bowl (being a PAC-10 team, I’m not sure they would ever go to the Orange Bowl. If I’m wrong on that, someone let me know). A quick glimpse through Google Images didn’t turn up anything either.[/quote]

    They played in the National Championship Game in the Orange Bowl two or three years ago, and the Song Girls (they’re not cheerleaders, or so they say) wore oranges as well. I have no pictures of this.[/quote]

    Here is a picture of the Song Girls with an orange on their sweaters for the Orange Bowl.

  • Matt W | November 20, 2006 at 7:10 pm |
  • graham | November 20, 2006 at 7:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”23852″][quote comment=”23830″]As for Kim’s comment that the wizards new alt “builds on their color scheme without resorting to black, HELLO??!!!!

    The shorts are black. The stars are black. The second color in the alt is black. How is that not resorting to black?

    And if it’s true that the NBA has banned the use of black for alt uni prime colors, then I’m all for it, as it’s boring and lazy cop-out.[/quote]Pretty sure they’re actually navy, angry guy.[/quote]

    pretty sure you’re wrong, the wizard’s alt shorts look black as night to me

  • jam | November 20, 2006 at 7:35 pm |

    Why do you guys hate black. Its as simplistic as the white works with almost anything. Can anybody name even 1 team other than the Bulls and the Timberwolves with Black Alts in the NBA (both of which are not new)? What is the reason for the ban?

  • Scott | November 20, 2006 at 7:46 pm |

    JAGS LOOKING GOOD IN ALL BLACK TONIGHT

  • StevieW | November 20, 2006 at 7:46 pm |

    Not according to this article. It is from 2002, but I would assume the same holds true today.[/quote]

    I stand corrected. Thanks for the link and the clarification. Another issue resolved.
    Cheers,

  • C.N. | November 20, 2006 at 7:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”23925″]Since someone mistakenly wrote that Kobe changed jersey numbers as a money-grabbing ploy, I’ll set the record straight.

    He wanted #24 from the time he entered the league with the Lakers. However, George McCloud wore #24 when Kobe entered the league. #24 was his high school number before switching to #33. #33 is, of course, retired by the Lakers in honor of Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Instead, he chosed #8 in honor of his favorite Italian league player, Mike D’Antoni.

    He decided this year to switch back to his high school number. It wasn’t about money at all.[/quote]

    I might add that he didn’t enter the league with the Lakers, but with the Hornets, despite playing few if no games with them.

  • ACC (the Brain) | November 20, 2006 at 8:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”23951″]Why do you guys hate black.

    Its as simplistic as the white works with almost anything.

    Can anybody name even 1 team other than the Bulls and the Timberwolves with Black Alts in the NBA (both of which are not new)?

    What is the reason for the ban?[/quote]

    I don’t hate black at all. It works well in the NBA. Supposedly Dictator Stern put an end to it for reasons unknown to me.

    Yeah it was more of a 90s trend.
    Is Miami’s black or red alternate?

  • My Name is Not Earl | November 20, 2006 at 8:07 pm |

    Why do NFL teams always seem to wear dark-on-dark in prime time? The Borncos did it again last night, and the Jaguars are doing it tonight.

    I just hope the Chiefs don’t wear red on red Thursday night.

  • C.N. | November 20, 2006 at 8:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”23934″]Uni-related content

    I like the Eagles black alternates. In fact, I think I will start a campaign for more black unis in sports. I also like the Nets’ red alternates as red is my favorite color. I am a big fan of intense unis, especially red. I think everyone should have a black or red or both alternate.

    p.s. Before you start posting that “Are you out of your mind?” comment, I am kidding on the last sentence. I stand by the colors red and black, however.[/quote]
    Agreed. It doesn’t look good for all teams but it doesn’t look as bad as it often gets credited for on this site. I realize the point of the ditch the black “campaign” has little to nothing to do with how the Mets’ black jerseys look, at least in theory, but even Paul would admit, I presume, that the Mets’ black jersey really doesn’t look that bad. It’s just the principle of the matter, I know. And I would like the Nets’ new unis, at least some, I guess, if I didn’t hate all things Nets.

  • Teebz | November 20, 2006 at 8:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”23954″]
    I might add that he didn’t enter the league with the Lakers, but with the Hornets, despite playing few if no games with them.[/quote]

    He was drafted by the Hornets 13th overall in 1996, and Jerry West traded Vlade Divac to the Hornets to get him before the start of the 1996-97 season. He went on to win the 1997 Slam Dunk contest as a member of the Lakers as well.

    In fact, he was acquired by the “Lakeshow” a day before he was to start his rookie season.

  • C.N. | November 20, 2006 at 8:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”23939″]The Grim Raper wore #8 in honor of Suns coach Mike D’Antoni.
    The Raper grew up in Italy (yeah, he’s really thug with his tats), where D’Antoni was a legend of the Italian League
    D’Antoni in Italy
    Coach D was the Grim Raper’s favorite player as a kid.

    After the playoffs last year (And getting owned by Raja Bell), the Grim Raper wanted to change his number and sever any ties to the Suns.[/quote]

    So I guess you won’t be buying your kid a Bryant jersey for Christmas, huh?

  • C.N. | November 20, 2006 at 8:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”23941″]Notre Dame should be ashamed. They whip out the green jerseys against a service academy and then run up the score during wartime.
    Did they just want to finally get a win wearing green for the first time since 1992.?

    Why not wear white/green next week against USC?

    MTFBWY
    Johnny Miller
    Talk show host , Las Vegas[/quote]

    They will be wearing white. They will be on the road.

  • Andy from KC | November 20, 2006 at 8:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”23957″]Why do NFL teams always seem to wear dark-on-dark in prime time? The Borncos did it again last night, and the Jaguars are doing it tonight.

    I just hope the Chiefs don’t wear red on red Thursday night.[/quote]

    Ew … I hope my Chiefs have more sense than that. Still, they did wear white on white for the opener, so who knows? (White on white at HOME? What the hell were you THINKING, Herm?!!?)

    I did find this, though. Ouch.

  • bg | November 20, 2006 at 8:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”23836″]About Nolan’s socks, I read somewhere that it was a nod to the older coaches and I thought I read where Lombardi also wore white socks with his shoes [/quote]

    you are correct. Vince with his white socks and Riddells.

  • Chris Mewett | November 20, 2006 at 8:35 pm |

    Looks like I was wrong on the Wizards. Could’ve sworn I’d seen a mock-up (or maybe during the unveiling) where it looked like blue and gold, but I guess not.

  • John Ekdahl | November 20, 2006 at 8:42 pm |

    Kornheiser was just talking about Del Rio’s suit. Free publicity for Reebok….

  • The Original Lee | November 20, 2006 at 8:54 pm |

    i like the suits, but from the only pictures ive seen it looks like they have no vents. sad display. if your gonna campaign to wear a suit on the sidelines, at least make it classy.

  • Andy from KC | November 20, 2006 at 9:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”23965″]Kornheiser was just talking about Del Rio’s suit. Free publicity for Reebok….[/quote]

    Del Rio is looking mighty sharp. His team … ehh, not so much.

  • Jason | November 20, 2006 at 9:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”23753″]Something of an aesthetic disaster on Mallorca yesterday. Orange vs Red — it’s clash-a-riffic!

    Reminds me of a certain basketball game I’d hoped to strike from my databanks:

    And this was the alternate jersey. Apparently, orange vs red is higher contrast than blue & red vs red. But I’m not so sure…Barcelona used to carry a third jersey to eliminate the possibility of something like this. Maybe La Liga should mandate that every team have a predominantly white jersey on hand?

    Special note for the ladies: the Barca shop carries jerseys with a woman’s cut, and they’re not pink.[/quote]
    The teams may not have had as many choices as normal for this game. Given that Barca had the Unicef logo, I’m assuming this was a champions league game and not a regular league fixutre. Most teams now have different kits for those games and they may not have brought alternates or planned for them.

  • Tape | November 20, 2006 at 9:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”23816″]
    Just out of curiosity, where does Army get its cheerleaders? They’re not female cadets, are they? Because that wouldn’t seem to me to be a very Army-like thing to do.[/quote]

    There have been female cadets for a while. Women are also allowed to vote.

    [There’s no reason for comments like this. -webmaster edit][/quote]

    the first one, maybe. I thought the retort was pretty funny.

  • GoMac | November 20, 2006 at 9:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”23753″]Something of an aesthetic disaster on Mallorca yesterday. Orange vs Red — it’s clash-a-riffic!

    Reminds me of a certain basketball game I’d hoped to strike from my databanks:

    And this was the alternate jersey. Apparently, orange vs red is higher contrast than blue & red vs red. But I’m not so sure…Barcelona used to carry a third jersey to eliminate the possibility of something like this. Maybe La Liga should mandate that every team have a predominantly white jersey on hand?

    Special note for the ladies: the Barca shop carries jerseys with a woman’s cut, and they’re not pink.[/quote]

    Listen..I understand the pink thing sometimes..to appeal to female customers..but I was walking to class today and saw a kid wearing this..

    What crap..

  • Tape | November 20, 2006 at 9:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”23870″]first of all, im all for alternate jerseys! it breaks up the monotony that regular jersey combinations often make. id love to see some nfl who do not have alternate jerseys, get one:

    packers-yellow
    steelers-yellow
    49ers-gold
    saints-gold
    bills-red
    etc…[/quote]

    the problem with your ideas for the Packers, Steelers, 49ers and Saints is that their jerseys will match their pants (all of these teams have pants that are the color you mentioned, both home and road, except for the ugly Saints’ black alt pants, which should be stricken from the record). monochrome yellow or gold would look horrendous. ESPECIALLY for the Packers with yellow helmet, jersey, and pants. the 49ers and Saints would also have that same issue, but I think yellow would be far more garish on all three elements than gold.

    the funny thing to me is that all four of those teams have excellently classy jerseys that should not be messed with, with the minor exception that the 49ers should go back to the Montana-era type, even though their current iteration still looks pretty good.

    the Bills would look OK at best in a red alt. I like how their helmet contrasts the jersey, and having a red alt would ruin that.

    I’d like to see no teams have alts. instead, they should just have good jerseys in the first place.

  • Minna H | November 20, 2006 at 9:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”23971″]

    Listen..I understand the pink thing sometimes..to appeal to female customers..but I was walking to class today and saw a kid wearing this..

    What crap..[/quote]

    I would take the red jersey over the pink every time. EVERY TIME. There is no pink in sports. I would rather run nude outside on the coldest Minnesota day only wearing black-striped socks than wear a pink jersey. I would rather never see the pythons of Ed Hochulis than purchase a pink jersey. I would rather Troy Polamalu cut off his hair than—ok, let’s not get carried, Minna.

    I would rather the Vikings have an 0-16 season than have a pink jersey in my house. Thanks, GoMac, for allowing me to have my weekly pink stinks rant—so therapeutic.

  • Tape | November 20, 2006 at 9:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”23952″]JAGS LOOKING GOOD IN ALL BLACK TONIGHT[/quote]

    prepare this man his straightjacket, because that’s an insane comment.

  • Al | November 20, 2006 at 9:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”23969″][quote comment=”23753″]Something of an aesthetic disaster on Mallorca yesterday. Orange vs Red — it’s clash-a-riffic!

    Reminds me of a certain basketball game I’d hoped to strike from my databanks:

    And this was the alternate jersey. Apparently, orange vs red is higher contrast than blue & red vs red. But I’m not so sure…Barcelona used to carry a third jersey to eliminate the possibility of something like this. Maybe La Liga should mandate that every team have a predominantly white jersey on hand?

    Special note for the ladies: the Barca shop carries jerseys with a woman’s cut, and they’re not pink.[/quote]
    The teams may not have had as many choices as normal for this game. Given that Barca had the Unicef logo, I’m assuming this was a champions league game and not a regular league fixutre. Most teams now have different kits for those games and they may not have brought alternates or planned for them.[/quote]
    That ‘s wrong- thanks for playing our game. The Barcelona/Mallorca on Saturday was a La Liga match. The match was at Mallorca, hence Barcelona using thier away kit. UEFA and Champ’s League fixtures are played Tuesday (Champ League) and Thursday (UEFA) and domestic leagues on weekends, for the most part.

  • Minna H | November 20, 2006 at 9:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”23958″][quote comment=”23934″]Uni-related content

    I like the Eagles black alternates. In fact, I think I will start a campaign for more black unis in sports. I also like the Nets’ red alternates as red is my favorite color. I am a big fan of intense unis, especially red. I think everyone should have a black or red or both alternate.

    p.s. Before you start posting that “Are you out of your mind?” comment, I am kidding on the last sentence. I stand by the colors red and black, however.[/quote]
    Agreed. It doesn’t look good for all teams but it doesn’t look as bad as it often gets credited for on this site. I realize the point of the ditch the black “campaign” has little to nothing to do with how the Mets’ black jerseys look, at least in theory, but even Paul would admit, I presume, that the Mets’ black jersey really doesn’t look that bad. It’s just the principle of the matter, I know. And I would like the Nets’ new unis, at least some, I guess, if I didn’t hate all things Nets.[/quote]

    C.N., I think I take it one step further than most people in the pact that I like monochromatic black. The news that Czar Stern put the kibbosh on black alternate unis distresses me to no end. Just think how much better those Wiz alternates would be if they were all black.

  • ChrisM70 | November 20, 2006 at 9:30 pm |

    Are the Jaguars jerseys/pants black or are they a dark shade of green? Maybe the colors of my TV are off, but they look green/teal to me…a very odd shade.

    They remind me of the Bears’ dark navy unis – they look black at first, but they are actually very dark blue.

    Am I wrong?

  • Minna H | November 20, 2006 at 9:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”23975″][quote comment=”23952″]JAGS LOOKING GOOD IN ALL BLACK TONIGHT[/quote]

    prepare this man his straightjacket, because that’s an insane comment.[/quote]

    Then strap me in one as well—as long as it’s black. Even though I haven’t seen the Jags in all black (I don’t have cable), I bet they look excellent.

  • Tape | November 20, 2006 at 9:31 pm |

    hey, out of curiosity, a blog question.

    I see that this blog is running on wordpress. I also see that on the front page, there are Google Ads following ONLY the first two posts, and no others.

    how do you get it to do that?

  • Tape | November 20, 2006 at 9:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”23979″]Then strap me in one as well—as long as it’s black. Even though I haven’t seen the Jags in all black (I don’t have cable), I bet they look excellent.[/quote]

    they’ve got black helmets, black jerseys, and black pants. it looks absolutely horrible. the fact that their pants have no stripes really doesn’t help. honestly, I think they look like a badly-dressed high school team.

  • ChrisM70 | November 20, 2006 at 9:37 pm |

    Does everyone see the Jaguars’ uniforms as black?

    If they are, the unis are a different shade of black than their helmets…

    BTW, Del Rio looks good in a suit – EVERY coach should have to wear a suit.

  • nico | November 20, 2006 at 9:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”23929″]Here is a gallery for the South Africa Springboks Throwback Jerseys against Ireland. Pretty sweet numbers, hun?[/quote]

    Sweet numbers in a patch! My school’s rugby team used to have those, they looked great on a hooped shirt. Plus they had to be stitched diagonally so they wouldn’t tear easily. Loves the RSA throwbacks. I saw France did the same to play the All Blacks last Saturday. They even had a fake belt and faux button down shirt.
    link

  • Miguel | November 20, 2006 at 9:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”23977″]…I think I take it one step further than most people in the pact that I like monochromatic black. The news that Czar Stern put the kibbosh on black alternate unis distresses me to no end. Just think how much better those Wiz alternates would be if they were all black.[/quote]

    David Stern hates black people uniforms.

  • Paul Lukas | November 20, 2006 at 9:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”23958″]even Paul would admit, I presume, that the Mets’ black jersey really doesn’t look that bad.[/quote]

    You presume incorrectly.

  • Brian from Short Island | November 20, 2006 at 9:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”23935″][quote comment=”23933″] It’s quite disgusting. They take out the hoops on the back of the Celtic shirt :/[/quote]

    UEFA requires that of every team with stripes/hoops for club compititions (such as the Champions League and the UEFA Cup).[/quote]
    I know why, I still don’t like.

    P.S. Does anyone know where I could find shirts for Champions League or UEFA Cup (with appropriate lettering and badges) for purchase? I wouldn’t get a Celtic one because they’re ugly, but I could go for a Spurs shirt with Puma’s world-cup style lowercase lettering

  • ChrisM70 | November 20, 2006 at 9:52 pm |

    I’m going to insist on this one last time…

    The Jaguars jerseys and pants are NOT black. They are dark green.

    Does anyone else see this?

  • Minna H | November 20, 2006 at 9:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”23986″][quote comment=”23958″]even Paul would admit, I presume, that the Mets’ black jersey really doesn’t look that bad.[/quote]

    You presume incorrectly.[/quote][/quote]

    Hey, Saint Paul. Let’s be clear that C.N. presumed that, not me. I know much better than to make that presumption! Hey, Ek. Wanna fix that for me?

  • Minna H | November 20, 2006 at 9:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”23989″][quote comment=”23986″][quote comment=”23958″]even Paul would admit, I presume, that the Mets’ black jersey really doesn’t look that bad.[/quote]

    You presume incorrectly.[/quote]

    Hey, Saint Paul. Let’s be clear that C.N. presumed that, not me. I know much better than to make that presumption! Hey, Ek. Wanna fix that for me?[/quote]

    Grr. Let’s try that again so it doesn’t look like I’m just quoting.

    Yo, Paul! I want to make sure it’s clear that it was not moi who presumed that—I know better. It was C.N. Ek! A little help?

  • Minna H | November 20, 2006 at 9:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”23985″][quote comment=”23977″]…I think I take it one step further than most people in the pact that I like monochromatic black. The news that Czar Stern put the kibbosh on black alternate unis distresses me to no end. Just think how much better those Wiz alternates would be if they were all black.[/quote]

    David Stern hates black people uniforms.[/quote]

    trying to de-italicize my words

    Miguel, I laughed out loud for several minutes. You get the Ekky for funniest post of the week. Thanks.

  • Andy from KC | November 20, 2006 at 10:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”23967″]i like the suits, but from the only pictures ive seen it looks like they have no vents. sad display. if your gonna campaign to wear a suit on the sidelines, at least make it classy.[/quote]

    Del Rio’s suit has a vent. I’m a double-vent guy, myself … but, you know, baby steps.

  • Dave | November 20, 2006 at 10:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”23972″][quote comment=”23870″]first of all, im all for alternate jerseys! it breaks up the monotony that regular jersey combinations often make. id love to see some nfl who do not have alternate jerseys, get one:

    packers-yellow
    steelers-yellow
    49ers-gold
    saints-gold
    bills-red
    etc…[/quote]

    the problem with your ideas for the Packers, Steelers, 49ers and Saints is that their jerseys will match their pants (all of these teams have pants that are the color you mentioned, both home and road, except for the ugly Saints’ black alt pants, which should be stricken from the record). monochrome yellow or gold would look horrendous. ESPECIALLY for the Packers with yellow helmet, jersey, and pants. the 49ers and Saints would also have that same issue, but I think yellow would be far more garish on all three elements than gold.

    the funny thing to me is that all four of those teams have excellently classy jerseys that should not be messed with, with the minor exception that the 49ers should go back to the Montana-era type, even though their current iteration still looks pretty good.

    the Bills would look OK at best in a red alt. I like how their helmet contrasts the jersey, and having a red alt would ruin that.

    I’d like to see no teams have alts. instead, they should just have good jerseys in the first place.[/quote]

    Believe it or not, the Steelers designed a gold jersey about 6-7 (or 8 or 9 or ???) years ago. They did it to combat southern teams (like former division rival Jacksonville) that wore white at home which forced the Steelers to wear black in the heat. President Dan Rooney said the concept surprisingly looked really good and would only be worn during road games, out of respect for the tranditional Pittsburgh fans. But back then, the league didn’t allow teams to wear alternate jerseys on the road. So the Steelers scrapped the idea and it was never heard from again.

    Pretty cool idea — using a uniform as an advantage.

  • Kevin W. | November 20, 2006 at 10:18 pm |

    Saints have a gold alternate uni.

  • Kelli | November 20, 2006 at 10:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”23906″]I have a close friend who graduated from West Point in 1995. I asked a similar question about the cheerleaders at the time, about it didn’t seem logical to be both officers in training and cheerleaders. He said the female cheerleaders at the time were actually students from nearby prep schools, academies, and high schools that tried out to be on the Army (West Point) Cheerleading squad. It may have changed since then, but they were not cadets at the time. Looking closely at the female cheerleaders, their hair looks longer than the standard allowed for women in the military and they look a little younger to me as well. Could still be the case ?[/quote]

    The academies long ago, before women were admitted, did get their female cheerleaders from surrounding schools. The Naval Academy now get its cheerleaders from among the middies. I do not know about the others though.

    As for hair regs, women are allowed to have hair just as long as they want it. When in uniform it cannot extend below the bottom of the uniform collar. The Navy, Army and Air Force allow women to use pins and clips to put their hair up. My beloved Marine Corps, however, demands that hair be off the collar with no pins, clips or anything else showing. Also, there can be no flyaways like in the other services. The academies all follow their service’s regs.

  • Chad E | November 20, 2006 at 10:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”23988″]I’m going to insist on this one last time…

    The Jaguars jerseys and pants are NOT black. They are dark green.

    Does anyone else see this?[/quote]

    I completly agree. When i first saw them i thought they looked like a dark forest green. Still do.

  • C.N. | November 20, 2006 at 10:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”23986″][quote comment=”23958″]even Paul would admit, I presume, that the Mets’ black jersey really doesn’t look that bad.[/quote]

    You presume incorrectly.[/quote]

    I know. I’m not that far off base… I haven’t been living in a cave for the past three months.

  • TX Ken | November 20, 2006 at 10:45 pm |

    There’s a really great High school game on ESPN tonight, no wait its that movie “Any Given Sunday”, no wait, apparently its some NFL team playing the New York Giants.

  • GoMac | November 20, 2006 at 10:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”23974″][quote comment=”23971″]

    Listen..I understand the pink thing sometimes..to appeal to female customers..but I was walking to class today and saw a kid wearing this..

    What crap..[/quote]

    I would take the red jersey over the pink every time. EVERY TIME. There is no pink in sports. I would rather run nude outside on the coldest Minnesota day only wearing black-striped socks than wear a pink jersey. I would rather never see the pythons of Ed Hochulis than purchase a pink jersey. I would rather Troy Polamalu cut off his hair than—ok, let’s not get carried, Minna.

    I would rather the Vikings have an 0-16 season than have a pink jersey in my house. Thanks, GoMac, for allowing me to have my weekly pink stinks rant—so therapeutic.[/quote]

    No problem..

    But what I meant was..no NFL team in their right mind is going to wear pink unless it’s to support breast cancer or something..like baseball does..All I’m saying is that the red alt is ugly and should never be busted out in a game..haha..

  • Jeff E. | November 20, 2006 at 11:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”23991″][quote comment=”23985″][quote comment=”23977″]…I think I take it one step further than most people in the pact that I like monochromatic black. The news that Czar Stern put the kibbosh on black alternate unis distresses me to no end. Just think how much better those Wiz alternates would be if they were all black.[/quote]

    David Stern hates black people uniforms.[/quote]

    trying to de-italicize my words

    Miguel, I laughed out loud for several minutes. You get the Ekky for funniest post of the week. Thanks.[/quote]

    Really? Insinuating that someone is a racist or hates a certain race is funny? I respectfully disagree. I believe that word or calling someone a racist is a serious charge and that it is way over used. Just because you disagree with someone’s policies does not make them a racist. By the way, as far as I know, there’s been no offical declaration that Stern has banned black as an alternate uni color; just a lot of hearsay.

  • shooooon | November 20, 2006 at 11:48 pm |

    arizona state basektball sporting the new unis this year. i like the sperated letter look, but im just so sick of that overr-used tab on the collar…so tacky. the lone sun devil logo on the side of the shorts is kinda intriguing though.

    http://www.pac-10.or...

    http://sports.espn.g...

    its still better than theryre older one

    http://www.doubleazo...

  • diz | November 20, 2006 at 11:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”23935″][quote comment=”23933″] It’s quite disgusting. They take out the hoops on the back of the Celtic shirt :/[/quote]

    UEFA requires that of every team with stripes/hoops for club compititions (such as the Champions League and the UEFA Cup).[/quote]

    The history of Celtic’s kit numbering is quite an interesting topic in itself.

    Although the UEFA requirements are largely daft, since the right outline and colouring can stand out at enough of a distance not to be a problem.

  • Snowman | November 21, 2006 at 12:28 am |

    What do you guys think of the Seattle SuperSonics’ jerseys? I’ve always loved them, and I don’t think that’s just because I’m a homer.

  • John | November 21, 2006 at 12:34 am |

    I was covering the BC-MD game for WMUC (Maryland student radio) on Saturday, and from the explanation I was given, it seemed like the wearing of #31 would become a tradition from now on. Nobody on the BC roster wears #31 normally, so it seems like it’s informally retired (only Ruth’s #68 and Flutie’s #22 are retired officially).

    In any case, whether it’s a new tradition or not, I think it’s a great way to honor a fallen player.

  • Thomas | November 21, 2006 at 12:35 am |

    you guys need your tv’s or eyes adjusted… the jags are definately in black… and it wouldnt be suck a crime if they wore there awesome white pants with them thus breaking up the dreaded leotard effect. but i’ll say again for emphasis they are BLACK

  • Original Jim | November 21, 2006 at 12:40 am |

    [quote comment=”23864″]I like the nets reds, its not like its some random color they came up with (Celtics blacks).[/quote]

    I don’t know why so many people are under the assumption that black is just a random color. Black is in the Celtics’ color scheme, and has been as least since the mid-90’s or so, when the Celtics logo was colorized and marketed a bit more (instead of the plain green and white version). Besides, the Celtics have also historically worn black shoes.

    As long as it’s just a trim color, I think adding black (or yellow/gold, which has historically been on the team jackets) would help make the uniform a little more modern while still retaining most of the traditional qualities, and also differentiate them from the Sonics.

    Times change. Uniforms and logos should be able to be updated, within reason, or they run the risk of looking dated. Teams throughout all major sports have been able to upgrade their looks and still keep the traditional feel, and no one dug their graves over it.

  • Josh | November 21, 2006 at 12:53 am |

    [quote comment=”23960″][quote comment=”23939″]The Grim Raper wore #8 in honor of Suns coach Mike D’Antoni.
    The Raper grew up in Italy (yeah, he’s really thug with his tats), where D’Antoni was a legend of the Italian League
    D’Antoni in Italy
    Coach D was the Grim Raper’s favorite player as a kid.

    After the playoffs last year (And getting owned by Raja Bell), the Grim Raper wanted to change his number and sever any ties to the Suns.[/quote]

    So I guess you won’t be buying your kid a Bryant jersey for Christmas, huh?[/quote]

    Well my kid won’t be born until March…but I’d sooner kill myself than buy anything with the Grim Raper’s name or face on it (Unless it’s a t-shirt with THIS PICTURE on it)

  • Jason | November 21, 2006 at 2:37 am |

    [quote comment=”23955″][quote comment=”23951″]Why do you guys hate black.

    Its as simplistic as the white works with almost anything.

    Can anybody name even 1 team other than the Bulls and the Timberwolves with Black Alts in the NBA (both of which are not new)?

    What is the reason for the ban?[/quote]

    I don’t hate black at all. It works well in the NBA. Supposedly Dictator Stern put an end to it for reasons unknown to me.

    Yeah it was more of a 90s trend.
    Is Miami’s black or red alternate?[/quote]

    Black is the official road jersey, red is the alternate.

  • Minna H | November 21, 2006 at 8:02 am |

    [quote comment=”24002″][quote comment=”23991″][quote comment=”23985″][quote comment=”23977″]…I think I take it one step further than most people in the pact that I like monochromatic black. The news that Czar Stern put the kibbosh on black alternate unis distresses me to no end. Just think how much better those Wiz alternates would be if they were all black.[/quote]

    David Stern hates black people uniforms.[/quote]

    trying to de-italicize my words

    Miguel, I laughed out loud for several minutes. You get the Ekky for funniest post of the week. Thanks.[/quote]

    Really? Insinuating that someone is a racist or hates a certain race is funny? I respectfully disagree. I believe that word or calling someone a racist is a serious charge and that it is way over used. Just because you disagree with someone’s policies does not make them a racist. By the way, as far as I know, there’s been no offical declaration that Stern has banned black as an alternate uni color; just a lot of hearsay.[/quote]

    Jeff E., sometimes it’s better to laugh than to cry. Since this is not a political board (not that that’s stopped me before), I’ll spare you my rant on racism, but I have seen a few things about Stern to believe that, at best, he has difficulties with…how shall I saw it…the face of basketball.

  • Minna H | November 21, 2006 at 8:06 am |

    [quote comment=”24001″]

    No problem..

    But what I meant was..no NFL team in their right mind is going to wear pink unless it’s to support breast cancer or something..like baseball does..All I’m saying is that the red alt is ugly and should never be busted out in a game..haha..[/quote]

    Yeah, GoMac, I hear you. The NFL better not be busting out the pinks. As for the Titans in red? As much as I love the color (and that shirt), no. It wouldn’t be right. Really, the teams shouldn’t sell jerseys in anything but their colors, but we all know it’s about the money.

  • Minna H | November 21, 2006 at 8:09 am |

    Ha! I’ve waited six months to say this….

    Hey, Paul! Where’s the new entry? Happy half-year anniversary; may the next half-year be just as feisty.

  • Minna H | November 21, 2006 at 8:11 am |

    Finally, I think the Irish should permanently switch to the greens. Not only does it more accurately reflect the school’s heritage, it looks better, too.

  • Paul Lukas | November 21, 2006 at 8:49 am |

    [quote comment=”24015″]Ha! I’ve waited six months to say this….

    Hey, Paul! Where’s the new entry?[/quote]

    C’mon, it’s not even 9am (eastern) yet! Nobody’s allowed to say, “Where’s the new entry?” until then!

    And I’m about to post it right…[clicks on proper button] now.

  • Nick | November 21, 2006 at 8:57 am |

    Really?
    I love college FB socks.
    Why should college teams have to wear them high just like the NFL? Uniformity is good, but conformity is a whole different issue.

    It seems like socks are more uniform in the NCAA anyway, while there may be differing heights and styles of socks, everyone on the team has to wear the same ones, there’s no low whites/high whites

    I was a little upset when i saw Michigan had gone to the high socks as oposed to the low ones they used to wear.[/quote]

    Actually, I think what Michigan does makes a lot of sense. Earlier in the season when it’s not quite as cold yet in Big Ten country, they go with the low socks.

    As the weather gets colder, the socks go up. And since they’ve been using navy socks, I like the look. I’m not a huge fan of high whites in football. Even in the NFL, I much prefer the high color with a sliver of white.

  • John from KY | November 21, 2006 at 10:28 am |

    [quote comment=”23982″]Does everyone see the Jaguars’ uniforms as black?

    If they are, the unis are a different shade of black than their helmets…[/quote]

    I did watch part of the game last night; the Jags uniforms are definitely black. You are correct, the helmets are a slightly different shade as Jacksonville uses a “dazzle” finish on their helmets. It was always clear when they played the Steelers that Pittsburgh used plain molded black plastic shells and Jacksonville used the dazzle paint on theirs.

  • Chris | November 21, 2006 at 4:34 pm |

    Good look on the green unis, but those should be reserved for big games. Not Navy.

  • Jack H. | November 21, 2006 at 8:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”23835″][quote comment=”23807″]I knew
    Just out of curiosity, where does Army get its cheerleaders? They’re not female cadets, are they? Because that wouldn’t seem to me to be a very Army-like thing to do.[/quote]

    I don’t see his question as all that inappropriate. From the picture the cheerleaders look like any other pretty college cheerleaders. At first glance I didn’t think they were officer trainees either, but then figured that the military would not be so wasteful as to import cheerleaders for football games (or would they? – after all, the coaches are usually not servicemen).

    From most of our own experiences with cheerleaders, I think we could vouch that many if not most practicing cheerleaders do not have the mindset necessary to enroll in a service academy – in other words they lack the aggressive tendencies that we would associate with military men and women (except Carolina Panthers cheerleaders) but this viewpoint is after all a stereotype. KT was simply asking a question since the paradigms of cheerleader and soldier seem to easily clash. He doesn’t deserve the grief ya’ll are giving him.[/quote]

    They’re cadets. My dad used to teach at Air Force and had some cheerleaders in his class. They’re the same as everybody else that goes there.

  • TruBruin | November 22, 2006 at 5:38 pm |

    By the way, as far as I know, there’s been no offical declaration that Stern has banned black as an alternate uni color; just a lot of hearsay.

    Hearsay as in the Official NBA Operations Manual under bylaws.

    Section 2 a.6 // Team Logos & Uniforms

    “No team will be permitted to use the color black as a dominant team color besides teams already attired in such color. Those teams will be grandfathered in. Should a team featuring black request a uniform change the League will recommend the discontiuation of black.”

  • Jeff | November 22, 2006 at 5:42 pm |

    Nolan didn’t wear white socks:

    Them is black.

  • obliv326 | November 26, 2006 at 11:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”23962″][quote comment=”23957″]Why do NFL teams always seem to wear dark-on-dark in prime time? The Borncos did it again last night, and the Jaguars are doing it tonight.

    I just hope the Chiefs don’t wear red on red Thursday night.[/quote]

    Ew … I hope my Chiefs have more sense than that. Still, they did wear white on white for the opener, so who knows? (White on white at HOME? What the hell were you THINKING, Herm?!!?)

    I did find this, though. Ouch.[/quote]

    i have to say, for all the hits that all solid unis take, i am one who likes them. i think it is good when we don’t feel beholden to tradition simply because i also think certain colors get the short shrift simply because they are considered loud or what have you…i happen to like orange. i like that the bears have an orange alternate, and to me, honestly, the orange jerseys the browns wore looked better as a uniform and, well, a color, than…brown. a suit of pair of shoes, sure, but as a unoform color, i have to say i am not a fan of brown…yet, you would think a crime had been committed when they broke out the range. personally, i like the orange better than any uniform they have at all…

    i think its interesting, too, that people will accept certain changes wholesale…wider shoulder straps on basketball uniforms, or longer shorts, without question, but change the colors!

    personally, i think the most boring thing in foorball uniforms are akll whites. since this tradition started back when teams usually only had one pair of white pants for both home and away, i see no reason why that tradition should be honored, since it comes not from a choice per se, but from a lack of one…and it really exists b/c its a tradition…to me, it just looks like a white flag for surrender.

    so, i a a fan of alternate uniforms, in general. i think the nets reds look great. i think the celtics look really great, esp b/c i think the celtic uniforms are held back by tradition, and i personally think they are boring. i have never really liked them b/c of their dull unis. the new alternates look amazing, imo, and i would ditch the old ones, or make those alt/throwbacks, and use the new ones as a template. i hate the lakers, but i love the alternates and throwbacks they have.

    i really like the kansas basketball alts as well…

    but i’m just rambling now.

    my point is that holding onto tradition can keep you from moving forward just as often as it celebrates the past, so i think people should be moeopen minded.

    in that vein, more solids on nfl teams. more alternates…less white on white.

    and youre not an idiot if you disagree with me. its just my opinion…and not law…(unless ballot measure 411.2 passes next week, and we all pray it will!)

  • obliv326 | November 26, 2006 at 11:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”23975″][quote comment=”23952″]JAGS LOOKING GOOD IN ALL BLACK TONIGHT[/quote]

    prepare this man his straightjacket, because that’s an insane comment.[/quote]

    just out of curiosity….but what is o wrong w/them? IMO they look a lot better than all whites, (what could be more dull) and no one complains about those.

    i am for more uni combos, not less…if we are going to allow all whotes w/no complaint, then i dont see what is wrong w/all solids…they are a different look, and i think they looked just fine.

    dont see why someone’s opinion over a uniform would require a straitjacket…i thought they looked pretty nice, myself.