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Ask and Ye Shall Receive … a Jpeg

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Question: How great are Uni Watch readers? Answer: Pretty damn great. Last week I put out the call for screen-grabs of Charlie Bell’s Wednesday-night wardrobe malfunction, and reader H. Beezy came through with several excellent shots. As you may recall, when posting those pics on Friday, I lamented that we still didn’t have a shot of Terry Glenn’s Ohio State buckeye helmet decal from the October 23rd Cowboys/Giants game. I was particularly interested in that incident because I hadn’t seen the game myself — I only knew about Glenn’s decal because several dozen readers had e-mailed me about it.

As it turns out, there’s an inside Cowboys source who’s a Uni Watch reader. I didn’t realize this until the person in question, who prefers to remain anonymous, e-mailed this photo to me on Friday afternoon (here’s a larger version, and a huge version), with Glenn’s buckeye decal clearly evident in all its contraband glory. I don’t know if Glenn was fined for this, but he hasn’t worn the buckeye in subsequent games.

Take a close look, incidentally, and you can see the Dymo Tape name label on the back of Glenn’s helmet, a Cowboys visual signature that dates all the way back to the 1960s. Look for further details on that classically inconspicuous detail — with help from our new friend in Dallas — in an upcoming blog segment.

Research Request: If you have TiVo or some other DVR, will be home on Tuesday night, and are willing to help out on a research project, please get in touch. Thanks. … Update, 1:20pm: Okay, I’ve got enough volunteers now. Thanks to all who’ve checked in to offer their services.

Uni Watch News Ticker: MLB still hasn’t unveiled its new batting practice jersey template. But last week I passed along news from an inside Mets source who said the new design was similar to what was used during the home run derby, with a two-button collar and “a thick black ‘stripe’ from the armpit down, like NFL jerseys. … Judging by the sneak peek available here, that information was, unfortunately, accurate. … The New York City Marathon was yesterday, and the New York Times ran this graphic to help identify the top runners. Nice enough — until you take a closer look and see the utterly gratuitous logo creep. Pfeh. … Baseball historian and archivist David Eskenazi, who specializes in photos from the Pacific northwest (I showcased some pics from his amazing collection a few months back), got in touch the other day. “The long-defunct Vernon Tigers of the Pacific Coast League had some nifty uniforms in the late teens and early 1920s,” he writes. “I’ve attached some scans, just for fun.” … Good interview here with uniform designer and longtime Uni Watch supporter Todd Radom. … Friday’s post regarding retired uniform numbers for people who never wore a uniform drew lots of good response in the Comments section. In addition to the examples I cited (if you missed them, look here), there are the Seahawks, who’ve retired No. 12 for their fans, the “12th man” (which, as Vincent Vincenzo points out, prompted a lawsuit from Texas A&M); the Pistons (No. 2, for Chuck Daly’s two championships); the Indians (No. 455, the number of consecutive sellouts at Jacobs Field); the Nuggets (No. 432, the number of victories compiled by former coach Doug Moe); the Pacers (No. 529, the number of victories coached by Slick Leonard); and the Suns (No. 832, the number of victories coached by Cotton Fitzsimmons). In addition, Marquette has retired No. 11 for the Apollo 11 crew, No. 38 for the 38 years of service by team trainer Robert Weingart, and No. 77 for former coach Al McGuire’s 1977 championship. Thanks to all who contributed, and no thanks to the teams who came up with these utterly pointless retired numbers. … Some interesting tidbits about football uniforms, along with lots of info you already knew, here (with thanks to Sean Janssen for the link). … Lacrosse rant from Al Stone, who writes: “As an outdoor lacrosse player, my pet peeve is the disparity between the pure outdoor game’s goalies and the bastardized indoor game’s refrigerators with sticks. Honestly, what do you think takes more skill — this or this? I might be alone on this, but I think it’s nuts to call both styles ‘lacrosse goalies.’ ” … Eric Stangel has spotted two interesting pieces of game-used memorabilia: The first is a Mariano Rivera cap, whose underbill is inscribed with “Dios te bendiga” (“God blesses you”). The other is a bat that Andruw Jones used to address the ball — literally. (Full details on that one are available in this discussion thread.) … Minnesota-Duluth’s hockey team celebrated the 40th anniversary of their arena on Saturday by wearing 1966 throwback unis, which featured some pretty sensational sock striping (thanks to Justin Dols and Karl Anderson). … More volleyball tourney observations from Jeremy Brahm: Germany has umlauts and a wristwatch, plus a player whose surname begins with “Ss”; the Dominicans use the same uni number font as the Anaheim Angels; what can brown do for your collar?; Chinese Taipei’s nameplate format is surname followed by initials; interesting mix of upper- and lowercase lettering on Japan’s nameplates; surprisingly ornate uni number typography for the American team; and more religiously modest garb for the Egyptian women. … Josh Huffines notes that the minor league Seattle Thunderbirds’ alternate jersey is pretty rad, plus it features one of the rare jersey logo characters that’s depicted neither head-on nor in profile. … Shannon Briggs wore some seriously awful trunks on Saturday night. … War on Purple battle report from Jonathan Carone, whose school, Liberty, played purple-clad Western Carolina on Saturday: ” I made a sign that said, ‘You Wear Purple’ and got our mascot to walk around the field with it. He was messing with the WCU trainers and even went up to the fans and showed them the sign and everything. It was pretty entertaining.” … In case you missed it in yesterday’s Comments section: Cedric Benson had some decal issues during yesterday’s Bears/Dolphins game (with thanks to Clint Fransen for the screen shot). … Douglas Adams notes that the “c” in Chris McAlister’s nameplate looks like this, while teammate Steve McNair’s nameplate looks like this. … From last night’s Comments section: Shield your eyes.

 

238 comments to Ask and Ye Shall Receive … a Jpeg

  • Scott Novosel | November 6, 2006 at 8:11 am |

    The Giants have the best unis in the NFL!

  • Scott Novosel | November 6, 2006 at 8:21 am |

    I live in Japan and came across this sweet jersey on the cover of a magazine:

  • Robert | November 6, 2006 at 8:43 am |

    The Cowboys Dymo tape usage is most intriguing. A franchise that is so well wealthy still uses something as low-tech and tacky looking as Dymo tape? I like it.

  • Don | November 6, 2006 at 8:45 am |

    New college basketball uni. The University of Arkansas @ Little Rock changed their unis. They now have UALR on the front instead of Arkansas Little Rock. A good view of the new and old are here

  • Don | November 6, 2006 at 8:46 am |

    I am link challenged.

  • Don | November 6, 2006 at 8:47 am |
  • Robert | November 6, 2006 at 8:47 am |

    The retirment of numbers not worn by players is bad enough, but when it is a number that would never conceivably be worn by a player, the whole thing just gets silly. I want to see a Suns player ask for number 832, be told that he cannot have it because it is retired, and then settle for 831 instead.

  • Marc Nelson Jr. | November 6, 2006 at 8:58 am |

    So indoor lacrosee goalies have more pads and a smaller goal? Weenies.

    Besides, I played goalie in high school, and the (many, many) bruises were a badge of honor.

  • Gibby | November 6, 2006 at 9:05 am |

    More vidence that we are losing the war on purple. This is from the Ontario University Assosication Semi-Final. The worst part is the monochromatic purple team here won the Canadian national championship last year wearing that uni combo….

  • Matt | November 6, 2006 at 9:15 am |

    The Buffalo Bulls have new uniforms for the College basketball season. I’m still trying to find a pic. They are very similar to the uniforms of the past, but they have changed the striping and piping on it. On the Jersey they added black piping and changed the Font on “Buffalo”… the shorts have the weird nike stripes that end up going across the butt of the shorts

  • Jonathon | November 6, 2006 at 9:17 am |

    Illinois has changed their unis. I particularly like the new shorts (not a fan of the clavicle-stripe trend).

    The waistband rocks!

    http://store.fansonl...

  • Jonathon | November 6, 2006 at 9:21 am |

    Did anyone else notice during the Ohio State – Illinois game that hand-warmers worn around the waists of the Illinois players included stripes that matched their pants? The warmers were navy blue, but the part that sat on their hips had orange piping to match their pants. This is the best photo I could find. Look at the players’ left hip:

    http://sports-att.es...

  • MetsFan AZ | November 6, 2006 at 9:23 am |

    [quote comment=”19386″]The Cowboys Dymo tape usage is most intriguing. A franchise that is so well wealthy still uses something as low-tech and tacky looking as Dymo tape? I like it.[/quote]

    I have always wondered what that was, can you read the names in HD? I wonder if one has ever come off. I think the Mets use that Dymo tape label thingy to put the names on the brim of their helmets as well.

  • Jeremy Brahm | November 6, 2006 at 9:30 am |

    The watch is on a German coach, who is a man and the tournament is for the ladies right now. The men will be later in the month, but no player can wear a game according to FIVB rules.

  • Joe Hilseberg | November 6, 2006 at 9:36 am |

    I mentioned that McNair/McAlister thing the first week of the season…from what I can gather the Ravens by default always go with the lower “C” (I know it’s a replica, but it’s technicaly accurate), but McNair has a history of the higher “C”. My guess is it’s a personal preference that he requested.

    And while looking for pictures I found this ebay listing. It pains me to see people pushing this crap as authentic (2 DIFFERENT “9’s”), and pains me even more to see people buy them. UGGGHHHH

  • Kim | November 6, 2006 at 9:38 am |

    Is the Liberty mascot pregnant? Or is it just a little water weight? Nice job on the sign, though.

    That Thunderbirds jersey is good. Maybe NHL teams ought to look at them to see what a jersey should look like anymore.

  • Kel | November 6, 2006 at 9:43 am |

    [quote comment=”19397″]Illinois has changed their unis. I particularly like the new shorts (not a fan of the clavicle-stripe trend).

    The waistband rocks!

    http://store.fansonl...

    Rocks? That waistband looks like the cheap-shit rickrack that our moms used to put on the hem of our dresses back in the 70s.

  • Jonathon | November 6, 2006 at 9:44 am |

    Ottawa rocks a great uni with neither a “straight-on” nor a true “profile” logo. That pissed off roman centurion makes for one of the best unis in the NHL:

    http://shop.canada.n...

  • Matt | November 6, 2006 at 9:46 am |

    Here’s a pic of the new Buffalo uniforms… not that great of a pic though… but see the stripes on the back of the shorts…

  • Chad E. | November 6, 2006 at 9:55 am |

    Indiana University had added an American Flag to their jerseys. Note that Oklahoma also had these flags, so it appears to be a Kelvin Sampson thing.

    We last had one after 9/11, but it was very tiny.

  • Chad E. | November 6, 2006 at 9:55 am |

    pic of flag from IU.

  • Chad E. | November 6, 2006 at 9:56 am |
  • GoTerriers | November 6, 2006 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment=”19403″]

    And while looking for pictures I found this ebay listing. It pains me to see people pushing this crap as authentic (2 DIFFERENT “9’s”), and pains me even more to see people buy them. UGGGHHHH[/quote]

    Back of the jersey looks like the Steelers numneric font . . .
    Kinda makes you question the authenticity of the signature, too . . .

  • Kim | November 6, 2006 at 10:03 am |

    [quote comment=”19408″]Ottawa rocks a great uni with neither a “straight-on” nor a true “profile” logo. That pissed off roman centurion makes for one of the best unis in the NHL:

    http://shop.canada.n...

    The Sens cocked head is good. Though I like the black alt over the red/white swirl home unis.

  • Dave | November 6, 2006 at 10:05 am |

    Glenn’s Buckeye Leaf sticker is upside down

  • Kyle Joecken | November 6, 2006 at 10:10 am |

    Everyone that’s able should help Paul do his Tuesday research, but not until after voting!

    Do your civic duty!

  • Brian from Short Island | November 6, 2006 at 10:19 am |

    [quote comment=”19394″]So indoor lacrosee goalies have more pads and a smaller goal? Weenies.

    Besides, I played goalie in high school, and the (many, many) bruises were a badge of honor.[/quote]
    Yes, from experience, I know that position HURTS outdoors.

  • Brian from Short Island | November 6, 2006 at 10:21 am |

    [quote comment=”19404″]Is the Liberty mascot pregnant? Or is it just a little water weight? Nice job on the sign, though.[/quote]
    Yes. It’d cost him a $500 fine to get an abortion there.

  • Daniel | November 6, 2006 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”19416″][quote comment=”19403″]

    And while looking for pictures I found this ebay listing. It pains me to see people pushing this crap as authentic (2 DIFFERENT “9’s”), and pains me even more to see people buy them. UGGGHHHH[/quote]

    Back of the jersey looks like the Steelers numneric font . . .
    Kinda makes you question the authenticity of the signature, too . . .[/quote]

    I don’t even see the signature.

  • Tape | November 6, 2006 at 10:31 am |

    [quote comment=”19395″]More vidence that we are losing the war on purple. This is from the Ontario University Assosication Semi-Final. The worst part is the monochromatic purple team here won the Canadian national championship last year wearing that uni combo….[/quote]

    I actually kinda like the purple-and-silver team in that photo. it’s one of the few purple color combos I can accept.

    that other team, though. wow, are those horrible. there’s two different shades of purple! a darker purple on the pants, and lighter on the jersey but with the darker purple as a shoulder/side panel… and that piping makes me sick. fully hideous.

    aside: football pants with no side striping are simply wrong.

  • Tape | November 6, 2006 at 10:36 am |

    [quote comment=”19408″]Ottawa rocks a great uni with neither a “straight-on” nor a true “profile” logo. That pissed off roman centurion makes for one of the best unis in the NHL:

    http://shop.canada.n...

    The centurion is ok. that red and black swirl uni is horrific, though. I can’t believe people take that seriously.

  • now_a_hoo | November 6, 2006 at 10:42 am |

    The Liberty thing would be funnier if it didn’t have the slightest tinge of homophobic overtones. Liberty shouldn’t get a pass on this stuff until they get a new chancellor/president/grand wizard/whatever.

  • Kelli | November 6, 2006 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”19424″][quote comment=”19416″][quote comment=”19403″]

    And while looking for pictures I found this ebay listing. It pains me to see people pushing this crap as authentic (2 DIFFERENT “9’s”), and pains me even more to see people buy them. UGGGHHHH[/quote]

    Back of the jersey looks like the Steelers numneric font . . .
    Kinda makes you question the authenticity of the signature, too . . .[/quote]

    I don’t even see the signature.[/quote]

    The ‘signature’ is on the crappy 9 on the back. I certainly wouldn’t buy anything from this guy.

    The Ottawa centurion is cool. I like symmetrical things though, so the black strip at the bottom is awful.

  • Joe Hilseberg | November 6, 2006 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”19424″]
    I don’t even see the signature.[/quote]

    It’s on the crap-tastic 9 that’s on the back of the jersey.

    How come the players don’t just look at that and say, “I’m not signing this…it’s just way off!” That would be a wonderful thing.

    The closest I know to that happening is with Randy White. He prefers to only signs the white Maryand helmet with the gold “M” because that is the on he wore, but I have seen some current helmets out there with his sig….guess he needs the money.

  • Pat | November 6, 2006 at 10:49 am |

    [quote comment=”19423″][quote comment=”19404″]Is the Liberty mascot pregnant? Or is it just a little water weight? Nice job on the sign, though.[/quote]
    Yes. It’d cost him a $500 fine to get an abortion there.[/quote]

    Seriously, what are students at Liberty allowed to do for fun? Can’t even watch an R-rated movie in their dorm room?

    This seems to imply the mascot may find him/her self in some trouble for that sign.

  • BtotheE | November 6, 2006 at 10:49 am |

    From the last comment here the picture shows the spear upsidedown, the feather should be hanging down.

  • BillB | November 6, 2006 at 10:50 am |
  • Mark in Shiga | November 6, 2006 at 10:55 am |

    [quote comment=”19427″][quote comment=”19408″]Ottawa rocks a great uni with neither a “straight-on” nor a true “profile” logo. That pissed off roman centurion makes for one of the best unis in the NHL:

    http://shop.canada.n...

    The centurion is ok. that red and black swirl uni is horrific, though. I can’t believe people take that seriously.[/quote]

  • matt | November 6, 2006 at 10:57 am |

    I hope that those are not Illinois’ new uniforms. Just the shorts look terrible – I don’t even want to see the jerseys.

  • Mark in Shiga | November 6, 2006 at 11:02 am |

    Whoops; accidentally added that without my own reply. I wanted to mention that I liked the older Ottawa logo better, with the centurion in profile. The newer one looks too cartoony and silly.

    This one is a really nice logo.

  • Jonathan | November 6, 2006 at 11:08 am |

    [quote comment=”19434″][quote comment=”19423″][quote comment=”19404″]Is the Liberty mascot pregnant? Or is it just a little water weight? Nice job on the sign, though.[/quote]
    Yes. It’d cost him a $500 fine to get an abortion there.[/quote]

    We’re allowed to do a lot, especially if we live off campus like I do. I’ve always said I’m not a fan of Jerry politically or religiously but I love him as my chancellor. To me, it’s 3 seperate people.

    As for the fun, we pulled a prank on one of Western’s players this weekend. I made a fake Facebook account as a girl named Kristen Hutchens. To make a long story short, their starting middle linebacker started hitting on her. He thought he was hooking up with her tonight and having some fun. When they came running out from the tunnel there was a huge 15-person sign that spelled out her name and we had other signs for it and stuff.
    Seriously, what are students at Liberty allowed to do for fun? Can’t even watch an R-rated movie in their dorm room?

    This seems to imply the mascot may find him/her self in some trouble for that sign.[/quote]

  • Jonathan | November 6, 2006 at 11:08 am |

    Wow, I screwed that one up pretty bad and didn’t even realize it.

  • Phil | November 6, 2006 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”19407″][quote comment=”19397″]Illinois has changed their unis. I particularly like the new shorts (not a fan of the clavicle-stripe trend).

    The waistband rocks!

    http://store.fansonl...

    Rocks? That waistband looks like the cheap-shit rickrack that our moms used to put on the hem of our dresses back in the 70s.[/quote]

    I like the Illinois shorts. At least they didn’t use the Nike template that’s going around. And the waistband seems to be consistant with a fighting Illins theme. Looks good.

  • BStu | November 6, 2006 at 11:14 am |

    Man, those Vernon Tigers had an AWESOME jersey logo. Am I wrong in thinking that its Japanese influenced in design? Somebody make some replica jerseys of that.

  • Big Ed | November 6, 2006 at 11:18 am |

    eBay is FULL of fakes…i forgot the stats, but some outrageous percentage of the memorabilia on there is totally fake…be careful…and why is Glenn’s buckeye upside down??? dumbass..

  • C.N. | November 6, 2006 at 11:18 am |

    Very perceptive individual, Mr. Carone is.

  • Chris Hilf | November 6, 2006 at 11:23 am |

    [quote comment=”19408″]Ottawa rocks a great uni with neither a “straight-on” nor a true “profile” logo. That pissed off roman centurion makes for one of the best unis in the NHL:

    http://shop.canada.n...
    Wilkes-Barre Penguins do it too.

  • C.N. | November 6, 2006 at 11:24 am |

    [quote comment=”19429″]The Liberty thing would be funnier if it didn’t have the slightest tinge of homophobic overtones. Liberty shouldn’t get a pass on this stuff until they get a new chancellor/president/grand wizard/whatever.[/quote]
    Liberty is a private school. Right or wrong, they can do whatever they want in regards to admitting homosexuals.

  • David | November 6, 2006 at 11:28 am |

    [quote comment=”19453″][quote comment=”19429″]The Liberty thing would be funnier if it didn’t have the slightest tinge of homophobic overtones. Liberty shouldn’t get a pass on this stuff until they get a new chancellor/president/grand wizard/whatever.[/quote]
    Liberty is a private school. Right or wrong, they can do whatever they want in regards to admitting homosexuals.[/quote]

    And we have the right to call them homophobic and refuse to have any respect for the school and what they do because of it.

  • Mike from Queens | November 6, 2006 at 11:32 am |

    [quote comment=”19400″]I think the Mets use that Dymo tape label thingy to put the names on the brim of their helmets as well.[/quote]

    David Wright helmet. Clearly not Dymo, but a sleeker, more modern version of the same concept. I personally think it looks awful. Why not just put the uni number on the back and leave it at that? The Dallas Dymo has precedent and a kind of nostalgic feel, not to mention matching the color scheme. The Mets version just doesn’t have the same feel. It fits more like an overactive mom on a Little League team than a professional uniform addendum.

  • Josh | November 6, 2006 at 11:32 am |

    Paul, where did you get the information that the Suns retired #832 for Cotton?
    The Suns list Cotton in their ring of honor, along with former trainer (and non player) Joe Proski.
    Cotton’s banner and Proski’s banners don’t contain numbers like the players’ banners do.

    Suns ring of honor members
    Cotton’s banner (no number)
    Charles Barkley’s banner (with number)

  • Jonathon | November 6, 2006 at 11:43 am |

    Under Armour wades into the world of college basketball unis:

    http://auburntigers....

    http://auburntigers....

  • Jonathan | November 6, 2006 at 11:48 am |

    [quote comment=”19450″]Very perceptive individual, Mr. Carone is.[/quote]

    You were probably being sarcastic but thanks, I appreciate it. I knew the students wouldn’t do a “You Wear Purple” chant so I just made the sign.

  • MetsFan AZ | November 6, 2006 at 11:49 am |

    [quote comment=”19457″][quote comment=”19400″]I think the Mets use that Dymo tape label thingy to put the names on the brim of their helmets as well.[/quote]

    David Wright helmet. Clearly not Dymo, but a sleeker, more modern version of the same concept. I personally think it looks awful. Why not just put the uni number on the back and leave it at that? The Dallas Dymo has precedent and a kind of nostalgic feel, not to mention matching the color scheme. The Mets version just doesn’t have the same feel. It fits more like an overactive mom on a Little League team than a professional uniform addendum.[/quote]
    agreed on both points – definitely not Dymo tape, looks like a Brother label maker clear label with white letters and definitely “name on your underwear” feel to it. stick with the uni number on the back.

  • Jonathan | November 6, 2006 at 11:53 am |

    [quote comment=”19454″][quote comment=”19453″][quote comment=”19429″]The Liberty thing would be funnier if it didn’t have the slightest tinge of homophobic overtones. Liberty shouldn’t get a pass on this stuff until they get a new chancellor/president/grand wizard/whatever.[/quote]
    Liberty is a private school. Right or wrong, they can do whatever they want in regards to admitting homosexuals.[/quote]

    And we have the right to call them homophobic and refuse to have any respect for the school and what they do because of it.[/quote]

    My computer’s being stupid so let’s try this a third time. We have a lot of homosexual kids at LU. They’re still in the closet but it’s fairly obvious with quite a few of them. I don’t have a problem with it but some do. If you have any questions about the school, e-mail me and I’ll answer them. A lot of the preconceptions are wrong. I’ll be happy to answer anything though.

  • dchis | November 6, 2006 at 11:54 am |

    [quote comment=”19454″][quote comment=”19453″][quote comment=”19429″]The Liberty thing would be funnier if it didn’t have the slightest tinge of homophobic overtones. Liberty shouldn’t get a pass on this stuff until they get a new chancellor/president/grand wizard/whatever.[/quote]
    Liberty is a private school. Right or wrong, they can do whatever they want in regards to admitting homosexuals.[/quote]

    And we have the right to call them homophobic and refuse to have any respect for the school and what they do because of it.[/quote]

    But you would demand they have respect for everything else by saying they’re not “tolerant” yet you would call them homophobic and that would be ok?

  • Mark in Shiga | November 6, 2006 at 11:56 am |

    While I accept that Liberty U. cas impose whatever rules it wishes, with the knowledge that students are free to not go there, you’ve got to figure that the name of the school is a bit deceptive, no?

  • Jonathan | November 6, 2006 at 11:58 am |

    Please, for the life of me, let’s not turn this into a Liberty debate. Anytime the school gets mentioned it happens and I’m tired of it. I’m a longtime Uni Watch reader and I send Paul things in from all of our games and he just happened to post this one. Next time I’ll just black out the jerseys.

  • Alex | November 6, 2006 at 11:59 am |

    that preview of the new MLB BP jerseys made me look away. I actually don’t mind the pullover/2-button look, but that side piping is just blah…uncalled for

  • Fraser | November 6, 2006 at 12:00 pm |

    Anyone have a screen shot of LANCE not wearing his proper NYC marathon number, but instead just wearing a big sign that said LANCE?

    I thought that was pretty annoying.

    As for comment #30 on the silver and purple school

    i went there. go to http://www.westernmu... and check out the wallpaper that says ARE YOU PURPLE?

    I played for a black and red team all through high school and then went on to play rugby at western, we actually moved from the school colours and went with an all black jersey with purple socks and purple numbers, it looked great, but the school took over our design this year and went back to school implemented purple.

    Paul might pass out for the day if he sees it.

  • David | November 6, 2006 at 12:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”19467″][quote comment=”19454″][quote comment=”19453″][quote comment=”19429″]The Liberty thing would be funnier if it didn’t have the slightest tinge of homophobic overtones. Liberty shouldn’t get a pass on this stuff until they get a new chancellor/president/grand wizard/whatever.[/quote]
    Liberty is a private school. Right or wrong, they can do whatever they want in regards to admitting homosexuals.[/quote]

    And we have the right to call them homophobic and refuse to have any respect for the school and what they do because of it.[/quote]

    But you would demand they have respect for everything else by saying they’re not “tolerant” yet you would call them homophobic and that would be ok?[/quote]

    I never demanded anything of them. They are free to have their views/policies and I am free to not support them. It is just like tomorrow. I will not vote for a local politician that I believe to be racist. Although I would like it if his views were more like mine, I cannot change how he thinks or acts. However, I can choose to not vote for him.

    (Sorry, Jonathan I will stop talking about the topic now)

  • nomuskles | November 6, 2006 at 12:03 pm |

    Douglas Adams (hopefully not the deceased author of The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy), is credited as pointing out the McNair-McCallister nameplate inconsistency. Not sure when he let paul know about it, but I posted in last Monday’s comment section (10/31/06) about it and Mike from Queens was able to find some different in-game pictures of it. Also, it seems to happen with both the purple and the white jerseys in the game, not just on signing day.

  • Josh | November 6, 2006 at 12:03 pm |

    The Giants also use some sort of tape to ID their batting helmets. They have been doing this for quite some time, as opposed to using numbers like most teams.

    Best pic I could find

  • Matt G | November 6, 2006 at 12:05 pm |

    Jonathon,

    Great job in taking the Hate the Purple to the field. Hope the mascot doesn’t get in trouble. By the way has Liberty always been with Adidas. Continue your fight against purple and also continue sending paul your pics.

  • Jonathan | November 6, 2006 at 12:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”19478″]Jonathon,

    Great job in taking the Hate the Purple to the field. Hope the mascot doesn’t get in trouble. By the way has Liberty always been with Adidas. Continue your fight against purple and also continue sending paul your pics.[/quote]

    We’re with Nike in football now. I think we just signed with them for this year. Different sports have different contracts though.

  • shadoquad | November 6, 2006 at 12:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”19422″][quote comment=”19394″]So indoor lacrosee goalies have more pads and a smaller goal? Weenies.

    Besides, I played goalie in high school, and the (many, many) bruises were a badge of honor.[/quote]
    Yes, from experience, I know that position HURTS outdoors.[/quote]

    I played defense in high school. In defense of Box Lacrosse, they do face a lot more shots in close, but I just think more of the outdoor game in general, and I definitely never second-guessed my goalie and his numerous welts. I blocked a couple shots and wore the “badge”, but he took 20-30 of those a game.

  • matt in the nati | November 6, 2006 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”19473″]Anyone have a screen shot of LANCE not wearing his proper NYC marathon number, but instead just wearing a big sign that said LANCE?

    I thought that was pretty annoying.

    [/quote]

    here ya go… i agree

  • J | November 6, 2006 at 12:24 pm |

    anybody notice illinois’ helmets during saturday’s game vs. OSU? the middle tab on top of the facemask had ‘TEAM’ on it. has it been there before?

  • Buckeye Mike | November 6, 2006 at 12:34 pm |

    Hey there everyone, good job on the Glenn pic. Sorry, the last week, i was movin, now I’m living it up in Cali, no longer an Ohio boy. just wasnted to stop in and say “I’m BACK!!!”

  • MetsFan AZ | November 6, 2006 at 12:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”19487″]anybody notice illinois’ helmets during saturday’s game vs. OSU? the middle tab on top of the facemask had ‘TEAM’ on it. has it been there before?[/quote]
    the weekend uni-faithful caught this Saturday and C.N. mentioned that “It’s a Ron Zook thing. His teams did it at Florida too.”

  • Chad | November 6, 2006 at 12:59 pm |

    All of the professional athletes had personalized bibs in the NYC Marathon. Here is a picture of Americans Meb Keflezighi and Dathan Ritzenhein from the race with their personalized bibs. I am not sure why Lance got one, but there were others

    I also disagree with Paul’s gratuitous logo creep comment. These athletes receive the majority of their paychecks from these shoe companies. We are not upset when they wear/use team logos in the NFL where the team pays the athletes, so why would we be upset here?

  • Paul Lukas | November 6, 2006 at 1:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”19458″]Paul, where did you get the information that the Suns retired #832 for Cotton?[/quote]

    Someone mentioned it in Friday’s Comments section. I went to the Suns’ web site to check, but the Suns, unlike most NBA teams the Suns don’t have a separate page on their site devoted to retired numbers (as you noted, they have a “ring of honor” page instead). So then I checked Wikipedia — not the ideal resource, agreed, but thisis what I found there.

    Frankly, it looks ambiguous as to whether the nubmer has truly been retired or not. But whatever — it’s still ridiculous.

  • C.N. | November 6, 2006 at 1:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”19487″]anybody notice illinois’ helmets during saturday’s game vs. OSU? the middle tab on top of the facemask had ‘TEAM’ on it. has it been there before?[/quote]

    Yes. It’s a Ron Zook thing. He did it at Florida too.

  • Brian Erni | November 6, 2006 at 1:26 pm |

    i’m not gonna lie, the new bp jerseys seem ok to me. i like them. but the side panneling IS unnecessary. they would look so sharp if the jersey was monochromatic. good news for mets fans: the black will be hidden a little bit more than the gross shoulder black we have now

  • C.N. | November 6, 2006 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”19495″][quote comment=”19487″]anybody notice illinois’ helmets during saturday’s game vs. OSU? the middle tab on top of the facemask had ‘TEAM’ on it. has it been there before?[/quote]
    the weekend uni-faithful caught this Saturday and C.N. mentioned that “It’s a Ron Zook thing. His teams did it at Florida too.”[/quote]
    heh…

  • Jonathon | November 6, 2006 at 1:27 pm |

    So why is Jamarcus Russell wearing gloves in this pic? (scroll down once you open link)

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Look at the other pic of Russell, to the right. He’s not wearing gloves for that pass attempt.

    Strange.

  • MetsFan AZ | November 6, 2006 at 1:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”19504″][quote comment=”19487″]anybody notice illinois’ helmets during saturday’s game vs. OSU? the middle tab on top of the facemask had ‘TEAM’ on it. has it been there before?[/quote]

    Yes. It’s a Ron Zook thing. He did it at Florida too.[/quote]
    well put

  • Patrick Mahoney | November 6, 2006 at 1:31 pm |

    The NY Islanders retired number 739 for Al Arbours coaching victories http://www.islesinfo...

    The Toronto Maple Leafs have a policy of retiring numbers only for players “who have made a significant contribution to the Toronto Maple Leaf Hockey Club and have experienced a career-ending incident while a member of the Maple Leaf team”
    The only numbers retired by the Leafs are #5 Bill Barilko and #6 Ace Bailey.

    1993, the Leafs began a policy of “Honoured Numbers” for their greatest stars. This numbers can be worn by other players but are honoured for the players who wore them. Alex Steen, Andrew Raycroft, Ian White, John Pohl and Mike Peca will wear honoured numbers (1, 7, 21 and 27, respectively) in 2006-07.

    More teams should honour numbers rather then retired stupid ones like coaching numbers.

  • RAS | November 6, 2006 at 1:31 pm |

    Instead of saying “LANCE” it should have said “LAME”. The guy is retired, and was never a professional runner (strictly speaking) to begin with. Giving him a personalized nameplate is stupid. Oh, and the real professional athletes finished about an hour before “LANCE”.

  • Kenny | November 6, 2006 at 1:33 pm |

    [quote comment=”19507″]So why is Jamarcus Russell wearing gloves in this pic? (scroll down once you open link)

    http://sports.espn.g...

    Look at the other pic of Russell, to the right. He’s not wearing gloves for that pass attempt.

    Strange.[/quote]

    That could be an older picture

  • Brian Erni | November 6, 2006 at 1:34 pm |

    a bit of speculation: since the all star bp/home run derby jerseys are set up to feature the colors of the hosting team, maybe the switch to this uniform side panneling is to give the jerseys a consistant feel in the derby jerseys. think about it. the derby jerseys will have an automatic template (look at the picture of the pirates bp jersey to the al home run derby jersey. same except for logos) and then all you have to do for the other league is juxtapose the colors.

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 1:39 pm |

    Talk about making sure the ‘uniform’ matches…

    Joe Pa. What a tough old guy. Get well soon.

    I like the Illinois shorts. Got that Aztec feel to them.

    Oh, and I back Kyle Joecken completely. Get out there and vote, y’all. If you are American, you should be voting. Do it because it’s your civic duty. Do it because it’s sexy. Do it because you can’t bitch if you don’t vote (that’s why I do it). I don’t care why you vote–

    just do it.

  • Maddux Sports Blog | November 6, 2006 at 1:43 pm |

    Thanks for the huge version of the picture. Nice to be able to see what all the fuss was about.

  • GoTerriers | November 6, 2006 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”19517″]

    just do it.[/quote]

    Minna,

    Ironic choice of words given the general disdain for the company that popularized that slogan . . . (or perhaps it was intentional, I’m not too swift on the uptake today!)

  • Matt G | November 6, 2006 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”19510″]Instead of saying “LANCE” it should have said “LAME”. The guy is retired, and was never a professional runner (strictly speaking) to begin with. Giving him a personalized nameplate is stupid. Oh, and the real professional athletes finished about an hour before “LANCE”.[/quote]

    Have you tried running a marathon…..

    Enough said… Give him credit for tring to raise money for cancer research. I am also sure that others finished behind him too..

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 1:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”19521″][quote comment=”19517″]

    just do it.[/quote]

    Minna,

    Ironic choice of words given the general disdain for the company that popularized that slogan . . . (or perhaps it was intentional, I’m not too swift on the uptake today!)[/quote]

    GoTerriers, it was, indeed, intentional. I do that once in a while when I want a chuckle; a gift from me to me. You’re pretty swift to get it on the second thought.

  • Taylor | November 6, 2006 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”19397″]Illinois has changed their unis. I particularly like the new shorts (not a fan of the clavicle-stripe trend).

    The waistband rocks!

    http://store.fansonl...

    In my opinion, the waistband is awful. Those look like something schools would wear in the mid-90s! Illinois is really a downgrade if you ask me. Where are the classic jerseys anymore, like UCLA and Indiana???

  • Banker Bill | November 6, 2006 at 1:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”19470″]Please, for the life of me, let’s not turn this into a Liberty debate. Anytime the school gets mentioned it happens and I’m tired of it. I’m a longtime Uni Watch reader and I send Paul things in from all of our games and he just happened to post this one. Next time I’ll just black out the jerseys.[/quote]

    I agree – I don’t care if a school admits straight kids, gay kids, butchers bakers or candlestick-makers – if they wear ugly uni’s, that’s the only abuse they get from me!

  • Taylor | November 6, 2006 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”19407″][quote comment=”19397″]Illinois has changed their unis. I particularly like the new shorts (not a fan of the clavicle-stripe trend).

    The waistband rocks!

    http://store.fansonl...

    Rocks? That waistband looks like the cheap-shit rickrack that our moms used to put on the hem of our dresses back in the 70s.[/quote]

    While I have the same opinion on the Ill. shorts not being good and all, they’re not bad enough to warrant profanity. One of the best things about this blog is that people don’t really cuss – it’s fairly mature like that (not that I’m calling you immature – I have no way of knowing.) Let’s keep the discussion on jerseys and try to keep profanity out of it. I am writing this with all due respect. Thank you.

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 2:02 pm |

    For more ripping on Bill and his red hoodie, read the first paragragh here.

  • matt | November 6, 2006 at 2:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”19510″]Instead of saying “LANCE” it should have said “LAME”. The guy is retired, and was never a professional runner (strictly speaking) to begin with. Giving him a personalized nameplate is stupid. Oh, and the real professional athletes finished about an hour before “LANCE”.[/quote]
    Whats wrong? You don’t like Lance? You sound like some “never was-been” runner who doesn’t want Lance distracting from the extremly exciting world of marathon running.

  • David | November 6, 2006 at 2:03 pm |

    I know that the US volleyball team is wearing Mizuno socks and shoes, but do you know if they’re wearing Mizuno uniforms too? They uniforms as well?
    They look a whole lot like Nike’s wraparound bib template used in Miami’s football unis?
    or perhaps a little more like Arizona‘s bib.

  • David L | November 6, 2006 at 2:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”19533″]I know that the US volleyball team is wearing Mizuno socks and shoes, but do you know if they’re wearing Mizuno uniforms too? They uniforms as well?
    They look a whole lot like Nike’s wraparound bib template used in Miami’s football unis?
    or perhaps a little more like Arizona‘s bib.[/quote]

    I guess I’ll have to go by David L now, just to distinguish myself from the other David (Liberty student).

  • Paul | November 6, 2006 at 2:07 pm |

    Those two schools from sunday are both from oakland not san francisco, the orange team is McClymonds ala the mack wordmark on their jerseys, the purple team is castlemont. Two of the tougher inner sity schools in oaklnad. and two of the uglier uniforms in the bay. I saw mack on tv a few weeks ago and thought i bet the faithful would hate that

  • Eric | November 6, 2006 at 2:11 pm |

    Paul,
    Is all logo creep bad? Those NY Marathon runners have been paid a good sum of money by these companies. This money has allowed them to train as athletes on a more full-time basis. In return, the company wants the public to understand that they are associated with this athlete, have provided them money, and quality equipment so that they can pursue their passion. The companies obviously hope is that the public might buy some of their ware. This seems like a good deal all around. And as far as I could see, none of the logo placements were aesthetically poor.

  • Andy from KC | November 6, 2006 at 2:13 pm |

    I don’t understand why all this venom is being spewed in Lance’s direction. I swear he wasn’t the only one in the marathon wearing his name, or at least something other than his race number. Look here and here. I mean, if he did something disrespectful or irreverent, that’s one thing, but sheesh.

  • Kramer | November 6, 2006 at 2:16 pm |

    its not the fact that its his name, its the fact that it is all capital letters that grinds my gears

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 2:17 pm |

    Ok. We have hit the treasure trove of retro jerseys, Many of them have been posted before, but here they are (sorta) on one page. It’s Page 2’s birthday, and they are showcasing some of their best material.

    Look at the upper lefthand corner, right next to (blech) Jessica Simpson (to the right of her). There are links for the best retro jerseys in each of the four major leagues.

    Retro-insanity!

  • Richard | November 6, 2006 at 2:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”19532″][quote comment=”19510″]Instead of saying “LANCE” it should have said “LAME”. The guy is retired, and was never a professional runner (strictly speaking) to begin with. Giving him a personalized nameplate is stupid. Oh, and the real professional athletes finished about an hour before “LANCE”.[/quote]
    Whats wrong? You don’t like Lance? You sound like some “never was-been” runner who doesn’t want Lance distracting from the extremly exciting world of marathon running.[/quote]

    Give the guy some credit – he ran a marathon in under 3 hours, a feat I am sure not many of us could do, even with training. He’s an athlete, and whether it’s on a bike or on his legs, he’s performing against elite athletes in his sport. Yes the personalized bib was a bit too much, but don’t belittle his achievement.

  • Matthew S. | November 6, 2006 at 2:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”19529″][quote comment=”19407″][quote comment=”19397″]Illinois has changed their unis. I particularly like the new shorts (not a fan of the clavicle-stripe trend).

    The waistband rocks!

    http://store.fansonl...

    Rocks? That waistband looks like the cheap-shit rickrack that our moms used to put on the hem of our dresses back in the 70s.[/quote]

    While I have the same opinion on the Ill. shorts not being good and all, they’re not bad enough to warrant profanity. One of the best things about this blog is that people don’t really cuss – it’s fairly mature like that (not that I’m calling you immature – I have no way of knowing.) Let’s keep the discussion on jerseys and try to keep profanity out of it. I am writing this with all due respect. Thank you.[/quote]

    Beanie: Whoa. Whoa. Why the F-ing? Why in front of the kid? All ya gotta do is say “earmuffs” to him, and you can say “F**k, sh*t, b****.”

    Sorry, I couldn’t resist. As soon as I read your comment I thought of Old School and that scene.

    I like those Illinois shorts. It’s different without being tacky. For those of you who don’t like them, keep in mind that you hardly ever see the waistband on college basketball players anyway.

  • Thorold Blair | November 6, 2006 at 2:23 pm |

    Am I alone in liking the typeface on these? Wouldn’t look good on most uniforms I dont think, but in this case it looks good

    Dont think that worked… But i was talking about the US womens volleyball jerseys

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 2:23 pm |

    Gah. I can post a link. I can. Try again.

    Retro-insanity!

    If that doesn’t work, just go to Page 2 of ESPN and find it yourself.

    p.s. A moment of remembrance for Ralph Wiley.

  • ACC | November 6, 2006 at 2:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”19382″]The Giants have the best unis in the NFL![/quote]

    Best among NFL teams that play in New Jersey!

  • Thorold Blair | November 6, 2006 at 2:25 pm |

    I guess it did work, but just for the sake of not having another brain cramp, can we get a tutorial on how to link and stuff?? haha

  • Teebz | November 6, 2006 at 2:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”19544″]Ok. We have hit the treasure trove of retro jerseys, Many of them have been posted before, but here they are (sorta) on one page. It’s Page 2’s birthday, and they are showcasing some of their best material.

    Look at the upper lefthand corner, right next to (blech) Jessica Simpson (to the right of her). There are links for the best retro jerseys in each of the four major leagues.

    Retro-insanity![/quote]

    That link didn’t work, Miss Scrooge. ;o)

    Retro-insanity: The Sequel!

  • BtotheE | November 6, 2006 at 2:38 pm |

    Tom Brady, here joining the many players not straping up the chinstrap. He has had a past of unusual chinstap configurations. Atleast he is not wearing a glove on his throwing hand..yet, give him time and some colder weather and he will. I know some quarterbacks wear the gloves for the grip, but I just can’t understand how they can still have the touch with gloves. And I just think it looks weird. Agree?

  • Josh | November 6, 2006 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”19499″][quote comment=”19458″]Paul, where did you get the information that the Suns retired #832 for Cotton?[/quote]

    Someone mentioned it in Friday’s Comments section. I went to the Suns’ web site to check, but the Suns, unlike most NBA teams the Suns don’t have a separate page on their site devoted to retired numbers (as you noted, they have a “ring of honor” page instead). So then I checked Wikipedia — not the ideal resource, agreed, but thisis what I found there.

    Frankly, it looks ambiguous as to whether the nubmer has truly been retired or not. But whatever — it’s still ridiculous.[/quote]

    The reason the Suns don’t have retired numbers on their website is that they don’t technically “retire” numbers anymore.
    When Tom Chambers’ number was retired they had a problem. Tom Gugliotta was wearing #24, so Jerry Colangelo changed the moniker from “retired number” to “Ring of honor”. All the members are on signs of the upper deck facing at US Ariways Center.
    While they don’t officially retire numbers anymore, however, the Suns won’t issue the ring of honor members’ numbers to players.

    For instance, Jalen Rose will wear #8, since #5 was worn by Ring of Honor member Dick Van Arsdale.

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 2:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”19554″]

    That link didn’t work, Miss Scrooge. ;o)

    Retro-insanity: The Sequel![/quote]

    If you noticed, Mr. Cratchit, I reposted because I’m fast like that. Thanks for having my back, though. How’s it going on my Christmas present?

  • Richard | November 6, 2006 at 2:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”19557″]Tom Brady, here

    joining the many players not straping up the chinstrap. He has had a past of unusual chinstap configurations. Atleast he is not wearing a glove on his throwing hand..yet, give him time and some colder weather and he will. I know some quarterbacks wear the gloves for the grip, but I just can’t understand how they can still have the touch with gloves. And I just think it looks weird. Agree?[/quote]

    actually, that’s Tom following a play. He normally rips one open to celebrate or get angry at a play. Here is him actually throwing a pass last night

  • Teebz | November 6, 2006 at 2:48 pm |

    Having been beaten to the correction punch by Miss Minna herself, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and ask a question.

    In the Uni Watch collective knowledge, which is vast and deep like the oceans, what qualifies as “retro”? Does Gordie Howe’s jersey qualify as “retro” if the basic design of the jersey has barely changed? Granted, it is old, but is it retro? I’d say “vintage” more than “retro”.

    According to Answers.com, vintage, as an adjective, can be defined as “characterized by excellence, maturity, and enduring appeal; classic.”

    Retro, on the other hand, is defined as the following from Wikipedia.com: “Retro, short for retrospective, is a modern term used to describe things from a bygone era. It is often used in a positive sense, referring to quirky or attractive products that are no longer available”.

    Is this just semantics? Since people use vintage and retro interchangeably in describing jerseys, should there be a distinction?

    All opinions wanted. Apply on this forum. :o)

  • Chad G | November 6, 2006 at 2:51 pm |

    Just so you all can see

    Belichick in the red hoodie

  • Josh | November 6, 2006 at 2:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”19564″]Having been beaten to the correction punch by Miss Minna herself, I’m gonna go out on a limb here and ask a question.

    In the Uni Watch collective knowledge, which is vast and deep like the oceans, what qualifies as “retro”? Does Gordie Howe’s jersey qualify as “retro” if the basic design of the jersey has barely changed? Granted, it is old, but is it retro? I’d say “vintage” more than “retro”.

    According to Answers.com, vintage, as an adjective, can be defined as “characterized by excellence, maturity, and enduring appeal; classic.”

    Retro, on the other hand, is defined as the following from Wikipedia.com: “Retro, short for retrospective, is a modern term used to describe things from a bygone era. It is often used in a positive sense, referring to quirky or attractive products that are no longer available”.

    Is this just semantics? Since people use vintage and retro interchangeably in describing jerseys, should there be a distinction?

    All opinions wanted. Apply on this forum. :o)[/quote]

    In the shoe world, vintage applys for actual old products from the past (a pair of Air Jordan 1’s made and sold in 1985) while “retro” is for old styled products sold produced and sold currently (A pair of Air Jordan 1’s made in 2000)

    For jerseys, a Champion authentic would be considered Vintage, while a Mitchell & Ness would be considered retro.

  • Bob | November 6, 2006 at 3:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”19557″]Tom Brady, here

    joining the many players not straping up the chinstrap. He has had a past of unusual chinstap configurations. Atleast he is not wearing a glove on his throwing hand..yet, give him time and some colder weather and he will. I know some quarterbacks wear the gloves for the grip, but I just can’t understand how they can still have the touch with gloves. And I just think it looks weird. Agree?[/quote]
    thought that was commented on recently….leaves it open so it is easier to call out plays

  • Teebz | November 6, 2006 at 3:09 pm |

    So…

    … if I read you correctly, Josh…

    … the Page 2 staff doesn’t know the difference between a retro jersey and a vintage jersey when it comes to hockey jerseys? Nor does CCM/Reebok?

    The “Vintage” NHL jerseys made in the new millenium would be “retro” by design then, not “vintage” as they claim, correct?

    I tend to agree with you that an old authentic jersey is vintage, and a newly-made “old-style” jersey is retro. Anyone else wanna weigh in?

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”19570″]So…

    … if I read you correctly, Josh…

    … the Page 2 staff doesn’t know the difference between a retro jersey and a vintage jersey when it comes to hockey jerseys? Nor does CCM/Reebok?

    The “Vintage” NHL jerseys made in the new millenium would be “retro” by design then, not “vintage” as they claim, correct?

    I tend to agree with you that an old authentic jersey is vintage, and a newly-made “old-style” jersey is retro. Anyone else wanna weigh in?[/quote]

    I second the motion. Motioned passed.

  • Josh | November 6, 2006 at 3:14 pm |

    [quote comment=”19570″]So…

    … if I read you correctly, Josh…

    … the Page 2 staff doesn’t know the difference between a retro jersey and a vintage jersey when it comes to hockey jerseys? Nor does CCM/Reebok?

    The “Vintage” NHL jerseys made in the new millenium would be “retro” by design then, not “vintage” as they claim, correct?
    [/quote]

    Correct.
    At least in my interpretation of the words.

    Also, if you check out Distant Replays Website, one of the leading retailers of retro sports gear, they call themselves “Distant Replays Retro Sports Store” Also, the top of the page says “Your retro sports headquarters”

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 3:18 pm |

    Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies

  • Teebz | November 6, 2006 at 3:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”19574″]Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies[/quote]

    Numbers 6 and 7 are nice, but I’d never own one because I’m a vintage guy, not a retro guy. And yes, I can spot “NHL Vinatge” jerseys from a mile away.

    Also, I can’t grasp why people spend $100 on a replica jersey and then customize if for an additional $60-100 with pro-style customizing. Save your pennies up, get a real jersey, and then customize it.

    I understand people aren’t made of money, but if you’re gonna dump money into customizing, spend it wisely. Nothing irked me more when I worked at a very famous North American hockey retailer. The cost to customize was sometimes more than the replica jersey itself.

    I should really write a “how to spot a pro NHL jersey” piece. I know so many people who have received a replica off ebay, claiming it was a “pro jersey”.

  • Matthew S. | November 6, 2006 at 3:33 pm |

    First, let me second what Minna said about voting. Contrary to popular belief it is important and also, voting in elections makes you eligible to complain when our officials inevitably screw up again.

    As to Teebz’s vintage v. retro question: I would think (and I haven’t consulted a dictionary) that the difference between retro and vintage is whether something is a direct reproduction of a past uniform style (which I would consider vintage) or if it merely harkens back to past designs without actually encompassing all the trappings of the past jersey or uniform (which I would say is retro). If this definition between the two is accepted (and anyone who finds fault with my definition should feel free to attack it) then it is possible that we could be talking about whether a baseball uniform is vintage because it has a beltloop in the front of the pants (like they did back in the 20s, 30s, and 40s) or if it is retro simply because it uses a past design.

    I can already actually see where there might be a problem with my reasoning, so feel free to address it.

  • Richard | November 6, 2006 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”19574″]Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies[/quote]

    and #8, could have been brought back this season, with a smaller transition from the bear face, but the Orr era jerseys are worthy.

    so Ms. Scrooge – who’s on your green jersey?

  • BBFAN | November 6, 2006 at 3:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”19574″]Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies[/quote]

    I love #8. Wish the Bruins would design a 3rd jersey based on that one.

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 3:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”19577″]

    Numbers 6 and 7 are nice, but I’d never own one because I’m a vintage guy, not a retro guy. And yes, I can spot “NHL Vinatge” jerseys from a mile away.

    Also, I can’t grasp why people spend $100 on a replica jersey and then customize if for an additional $60-100 with pro-style customizing. Save your pennies up, get a real jersey, and then customize it.

    I understand people aren’t made of money, but if you’re gonna dump money into customizing, spend it wisely. Nothing irked me more when I worked at a very famous North American hockey retailer. The cost to customize was sometimes more than the replica jersey itself.

    I should really write a “how to spot a pro NHL jersey” piece. I know so many people who have received a replica off ebay, claiming it was a “pro jersey”.[/quote]

    Please point out the differences, Monsieur Teebz, with pictorial evidence if you have it. I would like to see the difference between retro-replica and vintage.

    In fact, would you do that with the Canucks’ jersey? You could write on the pic like you did with the pic of my present. Thanks, Teebz.

  • Banker Bill | November 6, 2006 at 3:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”19574″]Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies[/quote]

    I actually had a Nordiques jersey – but I had the white one – and with all my jerseys, because I spend the $$ and I’m an egotist who had a very inaccurate shot and no chance to play any higher than college, I get my name and number (18) on all jerseys I buy – and a captain’s C.

    My brother has a white North Stars jersey – I HAVE to get that green one now! I also HAVE to get a purple Kings jersey.

  • Jon in SLC | November 6, 2006 at 3:55 pm |

    So I checked out the Distant Replays website. What’s wrong with this?

  • Banker Bill | November 6, 2006 at 3:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”19586″][quote comment=”19574″]Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies[/quote]

    I actually had a Nordiques jersey – but I had the white one – and with all my jerseys, because I spend the $$ and I’m an egotist who had a very inaccurate shot and no chance to play any higher than college, I get my name and number (18) on all jerseys I buy – and a captain’s C.

    My brother has a white North Stars jersey – I HAVE to get that green one now! I also HAVE to get a purple Kings jersey.[/quote]

    Any Rangers fans out there will laugh at this – my friend got an old-school Wales Conference All-Star jersey – but he put the name and number of the biggest goon in Rangers history on it. RUDY POESCHEK. If I can get a pic from him, I’ll try to put it on here. It’s hilarious to think of Rudy Poeschek as an All-Star.

  • Banker Bill | November 6, 2006 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”19587″]So I checked out the Distant Replays website. What’s wrong with this?[/quote]

    No red numbers. Give me a hard one will ya?

  • dchis | November 6, 2006 at 4:00 pm |

    Thought I would just throw this one out there for strangest small letter placement on the back of a jersey.

  • Banker Bill | November 6, 2006 at 4:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”19590″]Thought I would just throw this one out there for strangest small letter placement on the back of a jersey.[/quote]

    I think that’s just the way the jersey is laying right there – I believe that “S” is normal size but the material is partially folded, and the angle plays tricks on your eyes.

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 4:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”19579″][quote comment=”19574″]Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies[/quote]

    and #8, could have been brought back this season, with a smaller transition from the bear face, but the Orr era jerseys are worthy.

    so Ms. Scrooge – who’s on your green jersey?[/quote]

    Mr. Tiny Richard, I don’t buy jerseys, but if I did, it’d be….Troy Polamalu! Just kidding. Since I don’t know much about old-timey hockey (don’t kill me, guys, and anything before this millennium is old-timey to me), I would go with the classic of that era—Mike Modano.

  • Banker Bill | November 6, 2006 at 4:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”19592″][quote comment=”19579″][quote comment=”19574″]Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies[/quote]

    and #8, could have been brought back this season, with a smaller transition from the bear face, but the Orr era jerseys are worthy.

    so Ms. Scrooge – who’s on your green jersey?[/quote]

    Mr. Tiny Richard, I don’t buy jerseys, but if I did, it’d be….Troy Polamalu! Just kidding. Since I don’t know much about old-timey hockey (don’t kill me, guys, and anything before this millennium is old-timey to me), I would go with the classic of that era—Mike Modano.[/quote]

    Even further retro – I’d get Dino Ciccarelli.

  • Kevin | November 6, 2006 at 4:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”19588″][quote comment=”19586″][quote comment=”19574″]Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies[/quote]

    I actually had a Nordiques jersey – but I had the white one – and with all my jerseys, because I spend the $$ and I’m an egotist who had a very inaccurate shot and no chance to play any higher than college, I get my name and number (18) on all jerseys I buy – and a captain’s C.

    My brother has a white North Stars jersey – I HAVE to get that green one now! I also HAVE to get a purple Kings jersey.[/quote]

    Any Rangers fans out there will laugh at this – my friend got an old-school Wales Conference All-Star jersey – but he put the name and number of the biggest goon in Rangers history on it. RUDY POESCHEK. If I can get a pic from him, I’ll try to put it on here. It’s hilarious to think of Rudy Poeschek as an All-Star.[/quote]

    I remember Rudy from his Blues days. What an ugly mug on that guy. Teebz, I would also like to hear your thoughts on the NHL replica jersey topic.

  • JohnnyBoy | November 6, 2006 at 4:21 pm |

    Cedric Benson’s “C” was peeling off his helmet in the Bear’s miserable play Sunday. No method of screenshots, unfortunately.

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 4:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”19586″]

    I actually had a Nordiques jersey – but I had the white one – and with all my jerseys, because I spend the $$ and I’m an egotist who had a very inaccurate shot and no chance to play any higher than college, I get my name and number (18) on all jerseys I buy – and a captain’s C.

    My brother has a white North Stars jersey – I HAVE to get that green one now! I also HAVE to get a purple Kings jersey.[/quote]

    Hey, Banker Bill, we all have our weaknesses (Lofa’s not bad, either), so you go with your raging egomaniacal self. Buy all the ‘C’s you need.

  • MetsFan AZ | November 6, 2006 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”19597″]Cedric Benson’s “C” was peeling off his helmet in the Bear’s miserable play Sunday. No method of screenshots, unfortunately.[/quote]
    that screen shot is part of Paul’s “ticker” today.

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 4:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”19595″][quote comment=”19592″][quote comment=”19579″][quote comment=”19574″]Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies[/quote]

    and #8, could have been brought back this season, with a smaller transition from the bear face, but the Orr era jerseys are worthy.

    so Ms. Scrooge – who’s on your green jersey?[/quote]

    Mr. Tiny Richard, I don’t buy jerseys, but if I did, it’d be….Troy Polamalu! Just kidding. Since I don’t know much about old-timey hockey (don’t kill me, guys, and anything before this millennium is old-timey to me), I would go with the classic of that era—Mike Modano.[/quote]

    Even further retro – I’d get Dino Ciccarelli.[/quote]

    Yeah, it’s a toss-up, for sure. You could get one of each! One green and one white.

  • Teebz | November 6, 2006 at 4:26 pm |

    Ok, since Minna asked, and today’s article is titled “Ask and ye shall receive”, here’s a quick intro course to spotting the difference between an NHL replica jersey and an NHL pro jersey. We’ll start with the similarities as CCM made some serious upgrades when they moved from cheap polyester to Air-Knit fabric.

    Both jerseys are similar in that they both have:
    – CCM-patented Air-Knit 100% polyester double-knit. The fabric is breathable and durable, in other words.
    – Interlock neck hem for durability.
    – 2-inch wide bottom hem, soon to be killed off by Reebok.

    Now, for the differences that are clearly visible when looking at a jersey, they are:
    – NHL pro jerseys have a larger logo on the front than replicas do, and it is embroidered directly to the jersey. Replicas are glued on.
    Pro logo
    Replica logo
    – NHL pro jerseys have a fighting strap sewn into the back of the jersey, near the hemline. Replicas do not.
    Fighting strap
    – The NHL replica jerseys have a CCM embroidered logo on the left sleeve near the wrist. The NHL pro jerseys do not.
    Sleeve logo
    – For newer NHL jerseys, the NHL pro jerseys have a Reebok neck logo as all NHL pro jerseys are made under the Reebok brand name. All NHL replica jerseys have a CCM-brand neck logo as all NHL replica jerseys are made under the CCM brand name.
    – NHL pro jerseys have a silver embroidered NHL puck on the back of the jersey on the right-hand side on the hem. NHL replicas have an orange NHL puck.
    Replica NHL puck
    – Authentic jerseys prior to 1996, I believe, have the CCM logo embroidered in the teams’ colours in the spot where the puck is now located. Replicas had the CCM logo screened onto the fabric in the same spot.
    – NHL pro jerseys have reinforced stitching on all seams and hems. NHL replica jerseys only have it on armholes and shoulders.
    – NHL pro jerseys are sized by chest size (46 through 60 in the NHL by even numbers only). NHL replica jerseys are sized like all other clothes (small through XXL, and occasionally bigger). These can be viewed in the link in the next point.
    – NHL pro jersey tags are marked as “on-ice game jersey”. NHL replica jerseys are only marked as “official licensed jersey”.
    Pro tag
    Replica tag
    – NHL pro jerseys have double elbows and shoulders. NHL replica jerseys do not.
    – NHL pro jerseys have underarm gussets. NHL replica jerseys do not.

    I think that should do it. If you have any questions, post them here.

  • Richard | November 6, 2006 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”19592″][quote comment=”19579″][quote comment=”19574″]Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies[/quote]

    and #8, could have been brought back this season, with a smaller transition from the bear face, but the Orr era jerseys are worthy.

    so Ms. Scrooge – who’s on your green jersey?[/quote]

    Mr. Tiny Richard, I don’t buy jerseys, but if I did, it’d be….Troy Polamalu! Just kidding. Since I don’t know much about old-timey hockey (don’t kill me, guys, and anything before this millennium is old-timey to me), I would go with the classic of that era—Mike Modano.[/quote]

    Tiny? at 6’3″ I consider that an anomoly to be Tiny…

    Modano – good choice…

  • Teebz | November 6, 2006 at 4:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”19596″]
    I remember Rudy from his Blues days. What an ugly mug on that guy. Teebz, I would also like to hear your thoughts on the NHL replica jersey topic.[/quote]

    IMHO, Replica jerseys are a good jersey choice if:
    a) you have a child who is growing and don’t want to spend $200-250 on a pro for him/her; and/or b) you play rec hockey and need a jersey to wear on the ice.

    In no way am I bragging, but I only own pro jerseys because they look and feel like a real jersey more so than replicas. I got my learnings from working with them daily, so it’s a personal preference thing.

    And honestly, Rudy isn’t that bad of an idea. In fact, it makes me chuckle. Rudy = all-star. I have a Kasparaitis Islanders’ Fisherman jersey. I’ll see if I can get a picture of it and post it up in the next couple of days.

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 4:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”19603″]

    Tiny? at 6’3″ I consider that an anomoly to be Tiny…

    Modano – good choice…[/quote]

    Wow! You’re 6’3″? Nice! You can be Mr. R. Marley instead. Or, Tiny Richard can be ironic, like calling the overweight guy ‘Slim’.

    Now I’m leaning towards Dino….

  • GoMac | November 6, 2006 at 4:41 pm |

    Oh my God the horror..
    (The truncated stripe)

    And mismatched sleeves..

    Although I do like the fact that Western has it on their nameplate..

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 4:42 pm |

    Teebz, quel magnifique, mon bon ami! That was brilliant. Paul should have a blog entry on how to spot the fakes; he could lift the entire hockey section from you.

    Here’s the thing. I looked at the pics again on ESPN, and I can’t quite fit what you’re saying with the photos. Would you take, say, the North Stars jersey and tell me how you knew? I know I’m being incredibly dense on this, but I am more of a visual gal.

  • Mark in Shiga | November 6, 2006 at 4:44 pm |

    Speaking of North Stars jerseys, you have to love ths subtle shadows (the yellow layer is shifted just slightly off center) that they used to use. Back then it was only the North Stars and the Rangers with shadows.

  • BtotheE | November 6, 2006 at 4:46 pm |

    More on Brady, since I got myself into this, here with the straps wrong, should be cliped under the earhole to the back of the helmet. here. how it should be. These are older, the first from I believe their second super bowl run (OR 1st run) and the second from when I am not sure.

  • BtotheE | November 6, 2006 at 4:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”19612″]More on Brady, since I got myself into this, here with the straps wrong, should be cliped under the earhole to the back of the helmet. here. how it should be. These are older, the first from I believe their second super bowl run (OR 1st run) and the second from when I am not sure.[/quote] and here with it unsnapped. here.

  • Jeff I | November 6, 2006 at 4:54 pm |

    Paul and Friends, you’ll get a kick out of this.

    The Bush League Factor!

    It ranks the good, the bad and the ugly of minor league hockey team’s logos

    http://www.bushleagu...

  • BtotheE | November 6, 2006 at 4:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”19615″][quote comment=”19612″]More on Brady, since I got myself into this, here with the straps wrong, should be cliped under the earhole to the back of the helmet. here. how it should be. These are older, the first from I believe their second super bowl run (OR 1st run) and the second from when I am not sure.[/quote] and here with it unsnapped. here.[/quote]
    and here with a different strap setup here. I know practice and not strapped, but He changed straps through his earlier carrer. I guess tring to find what he or the eq. manager likes best.

  • Chuck Ryals | November 6, 2006 at 4:59 pm |

    great post (137) Teebz! I prefer the replicas, as the price is right and they do look good.

  • Kramer | November 6, 2006 at 5:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”19612″]More on Brady, since I got myself into this, here with the straps wrong, should be cliped under the earhole to the back of the helmet. here. how it should be. These are older, the first from I believe their second super bowl run (OR 1st run) and the second from when I am not sure.[/quote]

    after playing football and using all of these ways, you can use all of these combos

  • Teebz | November 6, 2006 at 5:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”19619″]great post (137) Teebz! I prefer the replicas, as the price is right and they do look good.[/quote]

    Thanks, Chuck. It’s nice to be able to put what I learned on the job to some use today. :o)

    Minna, I’ll look closely at that North Stars jersey once the site gets back up. Apparently, we’ve flooded another site.

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 5:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”19621″]

    Thanks, Chuck. It’s nice to be able to put what I learned on the job to some use today. :o)

    Minna, I’ll look closely at that North Stars jersey once the site gets back up. Apparently, we’ve flooded another site.[/quote]

    Hey, I complimented you, too, and in French! And the site is up—some of the links on this board are not working.

    Better Work

    I know you’ll get to it sooner or later, but this way it can be sooner.

  • Smail | November 6, 2006 at 5:12 pm |

    [quote comment=”19616″]Paul and Friends, you’ll get a kick out of this.

    The Bush League Factor!

    It ranks the good, the bad and the ugly of minor league hockey team’s logos

    http://www.bushleagu...

    Scroll up to the links section on the right hand side of this page and click on “Minor League Hockey Logos” ;)

  • Aaron | November 6, 2006 at 5:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”19408″]Ottawa rocks a great uni with neither a “straight-on” nor a true “profile” logo. That pissed off roman centurion makes for one of the best unis in the NHL:

    http://shop.canada.n...
    This should be their home jersey because its pretty nice for a team thats only been around for a little over a decade:
    http://shop.nhl.com/...
    This one is okay:
    http://shop.nhl.com/...
    The white one that they wear is in my opinion very bland and the white, for some reason, never seems to be fully white to the eye when seen live.:
    http://shop.nhl.com/...
    Nevertheless, the best jersey in the NHL is still the classic:
    http://shop.nhl.com/...

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | November 6, 2006 at 5:16 pm |

    hey all…
    just chiming in…

    a. about the marathon and the legible first names. that is done by design. virtually all distance races, (of substantial lengths- marathons or halfs) are scored by a computer microchip on your shoelace, however you are assigned the bib with your first name in large block letters. that is done for racer support. some halfs and marathons dont allow ipods or music, which means all you have is the fans and their suppport to get you through. and let me tell you, they do support you. when i did the runners world half marathon in april, these people yell and scream to push you, make you work and finish. they never have met you, but when you hear a group of 30 people screaming “c’mon todd work hard!!! hills coming up… 7, 6, 5 miles to go…etc. it is an unbelievable motivation and spark for the racer.
    i would recommend running a half marathon to everyone… give yourself about 5 months to train…what a sense of accomplishment.

    b. over the weekend, someone posted about the annoying chevrolet “our country” commercials. it is to the point of insanity now. i never thought i would hate a song more than last summer’s bryan adams tribute “life is an open road” for sportscenters 50 states in 50 days promo. but now it seams that melloncamp has done it…

  • Teebz | November 6, 2006 at 5:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”19610″]Would you take, say, the North Stars jersey and tell me how you knew? I know I’m being incredibly dense on this, but I am more of a visual gal.[/quote]

    The CCM Vintage collection is harder because CCM decided early on that it was only going to make pro jerseys if the demand was there. So far, I have only found pro Winnipeg Jets jerseys, Quebec Nordiques jerseys, dark Colorado Rockies jerseys, and dark Kansas City Scouts jerseys. I have yet to see a pro North Stars jersey in the Vintage collection.

    Looking at the small picture from ESPN, I can’t see a fighting strap and I can’t make out the size from the tag. I’ll see what I can dig up, though.

  • Teebz | November 6, 2006 at 5:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”19625]Hey, I complimented you, too, and in French! And the site is up—some of the links on this board are not working.

    I know you’ll get to it sooner or later, but this way it can be sooner.[/quote]

    I saw that, and I’m sorry for not saying thanks. So merci beaucoup, Minna! :o)

    I’ve been diligently searching out your answer for your North Stars jersey.

  • Al | November 6, 2006 at 5:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”19588″][quote comment=”19586″][quote comment=”19574″]Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies[/quote]

    I actually had a Nordiques jersey – but I had the white one – and with all my jerseys, because I spend the $$ and I’m an egotist who had a very inaccurate shot and no chance to play any higher than college, I get my name and number (18) on all jerseys I buy – and a captain’s C.

    My brother has a white North Stars jersey – I HAVE to get that green one now! I also HAVE to get a purple Kings jersey.[/quote]

    Any Rangers fans out there will laugh at this – my friend got an old-school Wales Conference All-Star jersey – but he put the name and number of the biggest goon in Rangers history on it. RUDY POESCHEK. If I can get a pic from him, I’ll try to put it on here. It’s hilarious to think of Rudy Poeschek as an All-Star.[/quote]

    Jeez…. if it’s a goon on yer jersey you want, why Poeschek (ex Dev, btw) over Fotiu, Troy Mallette or Tie Domi ??? (Shaking my head)

  • Jeff I | November 6, 2006 at 5:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”19626″][quote comment=”19616″]Paul and Friends, you’ll get a kick out of this.

    The Bush League Factor!

    It ranks the good, the bad and the ugly of minor league hockey team’s logos

    http://www.bushleagu...

    Scroll up to the links section on the right hand side of this page and click on “Minor League Hockey Logos” ;)[/quote]
    drats!

    and to think everytime anyone else does this I roll my eyes and thing, ‘the links are there for a reason’.

    Im heading back to my dunce corner for the eve

  • Brinke Guthrie | November 6, 2006 at 5:33 pm |

    From Peter Kings, SI.com;

    I implore you, Chargers. Please. Puh-lease. Make your old uniforms your new 2006 uniforms for good — and never think of going back. The Carolina blues are wonderful.

  • Chad G | November 6, 2006 at 5:38 pm |

    Check this out:

    The Current Espn Poll

    And look what the whole world hates…there is hope fellow Uni Watchers.

  • Sameer | November 6, 2006 at 5:39 pm |

    I think Al Stone should try Box Lax (the more popular version in Canada) before talking smack about it.

    I played Box Lax as a ‘tender, and it was much harder and tougher than ice hockey ‘tending (which I also do). Believe it or not, these people have amazing accuracy with their shots and the ball has a knack of finding holes in the padding.

    And even when it hits the padding, you feel it, I got bruises through the arm and chest protector.

    I only had 4 floor times before I was hurt by a shot that dislocated my thumb and stretched some ligaments on my right hand (it’s now set on a slightly different angle than my other thumb, which is pretty cool).

    So yes, it’s just as tough as an outdoor lacrosse goalie’s job.

  • Chad G | November 6, 2006 at 5:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”19637″]Check this out:

    The Current Espn Poll

    And look what the whole world hates…there is hope fellow Uni Watchers.[/quote]

    im an idiot, everyone hates the bcs

  • John in Athens | November 6, 2006 at 5:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”19629″]b. over the weekend, someone posted about the annoying chevrolet “our country” commercials. it is to the point of insanity now. i never thought i would hate a song more than last summer’s bryan adams tribute “life is an open road” for sportscenters 50 states in 50 days promo. but now it seams that melloncamp has done it…[/quote]

    I thought it was just me being “unpatriotic” (someone tell Chevy partonizing and patriotizing are two different things)!

    With the World Series ratings at an all time low (don’t they say that every year?), I’d like someone to look into the moment most folks turned the games off.

    My money’s on the fifth time in five commercial breaks that the artist formerly known as Cougar sang for Chevy over footage of Rosa Parks on a bus.

    Nice tie in, Chevy. Rosa would’ve loved a new pick up with it’s having no back seats and all.

    And New Orleans under water? Is that Chevy country, too?

    I think Boston Whaler might disagree.

  • Chad G | November 6, 2006 at 5:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”19640″][quote comment=”19637″]Check this out:

    The Current Espn Poll

    And look what the whole world hates…there is hope fellow Uni Watchers.[/quote]

    im an idiot, everyone hates the bcs[/quote]

    I guess I got so excited I didn’t really look at the picture close enough…it would have been cool if it were true

  • John in Athens | November 6, 2006 at 5:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”19640″][quote comment=”19637″]Check this out:

    The Current Espn Poll

    And look what the whole world hates…there is hope fellow Uni Watchers.[/quote]

    im an idiot, everyone hates the bcs[/quote]

    But that 9% know what reallymatters!

  • Micah | November 6, 2006 at 5:53 pm |

    I agree with BtotheE; the gloves on each hand of the quarterback is weird. I understand it on the non-throwing hand, like Brady, Vick, and others wear, but I’d think the ball would grip too much when trying to throw a pass. Some announcer made the point that it could be for the reason so the QB would be able to pull the ball back easier after a pump-fake. Xavier Lee of the Seminoles is doing this too and he looks like a WR, not a QB.

  • brian | November 6, 2006 at 6:01 pm |

    the knicks retired number 714 for red holzman (number of wins)

  • David L | November 6, 2006 at 6:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”19635″]From Peter Kings, SI.com;

    I implore you, Chargers. Please. Puh-lease. Make your old uniforms your new 2006 uniforms for good — and never think of going back. The Carolina blues are wonderful.[/quote]

    I hate to be picky, but it’s not Carolina blue, it’s Power Blue.

    And everyone here in SD loves them and wishes they would keep them.
    But as Paul notes in his FAQ section, Dean Spanos, the owner of the team really likes the navy blue unis.

    At least we can see the powder blues once or twice a year.

  • Aaron | November 6, 2006 at 6:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”19647″]the knicks retired number 714 for red holzman (number of wins)[/quote]
    I believe you mean the number 613

  • John in Athens | November 6, 2006 at 6:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”19650″][quote comment=”19635″]From Peter Kings, SI.com;

    I implore you, Chargers. Please. Puh-lease. Make your old uniforms your new 2006 uniforms for good — and never think of going back. The Carolina blues are wonderful.[/quote]

    I hate to be picky, but it’s not Carolina blue, it’s Power Blue.

    And everyone here in SD loves them and wishes they would keep them.
    But as Paul notes in his FAQ section, Dean Spanos, the owner of the team really likes the navy blue unis.

    At least we can see the powder blues once or twice a year.[/quote]

    You need to get organized!

    If Charger fans begain treating the powder blue as their official color (it’s not like anyone wouldn’t know who’s color that is, the ownership would have to follow suit, no? I mean, not have to, but it would make sense and be an incredible show community and team support without having a tacky boycot or walkout.

    What would Jack Tripper do?!

  • wyopokes | November 6, 2006 at 6:28 pm |

    if you looked close at mondays colts pats game, on some players you could see the silver oakley logo on some of the patriots players. i think kevin faulk was one.

  • Holla At your Boy | November 6, 2006 at 6:29 pm |

    **CORRECTION**
    The Seattle Thunderbirds are a WHL (Western Hockey League) team. The play in the CHL (Canadian Hockey League). The T-Birds are not a minor league team, they are a major junior team. This is different from college hockey and minor league hockey.

  • Banker Bill | November 6, 2006 at 6:38 pm |

    [quote comment=”19633″][quote comment=”19588″][quote comment=”19586″][quote comment=”19574″]Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies[/quote]

    I actually had a Nordiques jersey – but I had the white one – and with all my jerseys, because I spend the $$ and I’m an egotist who had a very inaccurate shot and no chance to play any higher than college, I get my name and number (18) on all jerseys I buy – and a captain’s C.

    My brother has a white North Stars jersey – I HAVE to get that green one now! I also HAVE to get a purple Kings jersey.[/quote]

    Any Rangers fans out there will laugh at this – my friend got an old-school Wales Conference All-Star jersey – but he put the name and number of the biggest goon in Rangers history on it. RUDY POESCHEK. If I can get a pic from him, I’ll try to put it on here. It’s hilarious to think of Rudy Poeschek as an All-Star.[/quote]

    Jeez…. if it’s a goon on yer jersey you want, why Poeschek (ex Dev, btw) over Fotiu, Troy Mallette or Tie Domi ??? (Shaking my head)[/quote]

    All those others had a modicum of skill – Rudy was a fist throwing noodle-head.

  • wyopokes | November 6, 2006 at 6:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”19655″]if you looked close at mondays colts pats game, on some players you could see the silver oakley logo on some of the patriots players. i think kevin faulk was one.[/quote]

    on their visors.

  • wyopokes | November 6, 2006 at 7:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”19661″][quote comment=”19655″]if you looked close at mondays colts pats game, on some players you could see the silver oakley logo on some of the patriots players. i think kevin faulk was one.[/quote]

    on their visors.[/quote]

    i remembered i dvr’d the game and sure enough after faulk was tackled they zoomed up on his face and from one angle you could see the oakley logo perfect. i wonder if the nfl is gonna catch it.

  • Shawn Knowles | November 6, 2006 at 7:13 pm |

    To above: No one ever said Canadian university football knew what they’re doing.

    Guelph
    McMaster I II
    Ottawa
    Ottawa
    Queens
    Toronto
    Western
    Laurier
    Windsor Lancers
    York

  • blakeruns | November 6, 2006 at 7:19 pm |

    for starters i have to say
    retiring numbers like 529 for wins
    or something insane like that is just silly and lame.
    however assiging a number like 2 to Red Auerbach or
    a similar move feels classy to me, nevermind that the person
    never actually donned a number.

    i also think what the lakers did for chick hearn was an excellent move

    also:
    as far as all the purple bashing goes…
    it can be used very nicely

    i really enjoy Andruw Jones’ bat graffiti.

    sorry if this has been addressed already…
    but the thing about the german volleyball team..
    i dont know what umlauts are but i think i can definately explain the wristwatch; he’s obviously a coach

  • John B | November 6, 2006 at 7:20 pm |

    Always a great pro sports logo trivia question?

    Q. What is the only logo in professional sports that read correctly upside down as it reads right side up (and the clue is in the thread today)?

    And this trivia fact holds true for their primary logo since their inception no less…

    Answer in a half hour.

  • Cy | November 6, 2006 at 7:25 pm |

    Did anyone else notice that the helmet decal in the last link of today’s column is upside down?

  • CubsFanBudMan | November 6, 2006 at 7:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”19529″][quote comment=”19407″][quote comment=”19397″] That waistband looks like the cheap-shit rickrack that our moms used to put on the hem of our dresses back in the 70s.[/quote]
    Let’s keep the discussion on jerseys and try to keep profanity out of it. I am writing this with all due respect. Thank you.[/quote]

    I find this odd, considering that Paul’s 10th word in today’s post is an F-bomb. If anything, that looks like a stamp of approval for an occassional cuss. Surprised you took such offense.

  • Shawn Knowles | November 6, 2006 at 7:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”19586″][quote comment=”19574″]Hey, Natron. Check out #7. You’re a real fan, though there’s no picture of the matching hat.

    Mr. Cratchit, I’m assuming you saw #6. Sweet.

    Ice Follies[/quote]

    I actually had a Nordiques jersey – but I had the white one – and with all my jerseys, because I spend the $$ and I’m an egotist who had a very inaccurate shot and no chance to play any higher than college, I get my name and number (18) on all jerseys I buy – and a captain’s C.

    My brother has a white North Stars jersey – I HAVE to get that green one now! I also HAVE to get a purple Kings jersey.[/quote]

    Egoist or not, I personally believe that if you didn’t wear it in the game, your name shouldn’t be on it outside of the game. Joe Nobody’s name should not be on the back of a jersey that Joe Sakic and Peter Forsberg have worn. We’re not in a class anywhere near those guys so we shouldn’t even pretend to be.

    Probly the only thing I hate more than this is people who wear a teams jersey at a game the team is not playing in. (ex: Wearing a Red Wings jersey at a Kings / Canucks game) It’s just wrong people, purply uniform wrong.

  • Shawn Knowles | November 6, 2006 at 7:37 pm |

    Also, I would like to pose the question: Why do people only put their names on the back of hockey jerseys?
    I can’t recall seeing many people put their names on the back of NBA/NFL/MLB jerseys.
    Does anyone have any jerseys that do? I’m just curious.

  • Cy | November 6, 2006 at 7:38 pm |

    my bad on the upside down decal, i was too late

  • John B | November 6, 2006 at 7:39 pm |

    Q. What is the only logo in professional sports that read correctly upside down as it reads right side up (and the clue is in the thread today)?

    A. Phoenix SUNS.

    Scroll down about 80% of the page.

    http://www.logoserve...

  • Chad G | November 6, 2006 at 7:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”19665″][quote comment=”19661″][quote comment=”19655″]if you looked close at mondays colts pats game, on some players you could see the silver oakley logo on some of the patriots players. i think kevin faulk was one.[/quote]

    on their visors.[/quote]

    i remembered i dvr’d the game and sure enough after faulk was tackled they zoomed up on his face and from one angle you could see the oakley logo perfect. i wonder if the nfl is gonna catch it.[/quote]

    If you look close at the Visor Tabs on Chad Jackson’s visor you can see the Oakley logo. Is it against the rules of the NFL to wear an oakley visor.

    We all know nike did’t like their colleges wearing Oakley Visors and provided them with Nike branded ones this season.

  • Mike from Queens | November 6, 2006 at 7:57 pm |

    [quote comment=”19509″]More teams should honour numbers rather then retired stupid ones like coaching numbers.[/quote]

    Couldn’t disagree more. No Islander should ever wear number 5 again, just like no Met should ever wear 41 again, just like no hockey player should ever wear 99 again. Those players defined their numbers on their teams and in their sports. They are their numbers.

    [quote comment=”19509″]The NY Islanders retired number 739 for Al Arbours coaching victories http://www.islesinfo...

    As I said over the weekend, I don’t mind the retirement of ridiculous numbers (what’s the harm?). But, the banner for Bill Torrey is ridiculous. Just a bowtie and the words “The Architect” underneath (couldn’t find a pic of the banner).

    [quote comment=”19550″]Gah. I can post a link. I can. Try again.

    Retro-insanity!/quote]

    The only good retro jerseys are ones like Montana on the Chiefs or Jerry Rice on the Seahawks. Or Fedorov on the Mighty Ducks. Or Babe Ruth in a Boston Braves uni. Either those, or jerseys of known criminals. Any OJ Simpson jersey is hilarious.

    A fantastic jersey would be Cory Lidle on the Philadelphia Flyers or Winnipeg / New York Jets.

  • Mike from Queens | November 6, 2006 at 7:58 pm |

    Screwed that up…

    The only good retro jerseys are ones like Montana on the Chiefs or Jerry Rice on the Seahawks. Or Fedorov on the Mighty Ducks. Or Babe Ruth in a Boston Braves uni. Either those, or jerseys of known criminals. Any OJ Simpson jersey is hilarious.

    A fantastic jersey would be Cory Lidle on the Philadelphia Flyers or Winnipeg / New York Jets.

  • Shawn Knowles | November 6, 2006 at 8:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”19679″]
    A fantastic jersey would be Cory Lidle on the Philadelphia Flyers or Winnipeg / New York Jets.[/quote]

    Ouch. That’s Brutal

  • Shane | November 6, 2006 at 8:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”19673″]I can’t recall seeing many people put their names on the back of NBA/NFL/MLB jerseys.
    Does anyone have any jerseys that do? I’m just curious.[/quote]

    The only way I would do it is if Tony Bua ever went to the Patriots.

  • Andy from KC | November 6, 2006 at 8:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”19679″]Screwed that up…

    The only good retro jerseys are ones like Montana on the Chiefs or Jerry Rice on the Seahawks. Or Fedorov on the Mighty Ducks. Or Babe Ruth in a Boston Braves uni. Either those, or jerseys of known criminals. Any OJ Simpson jersey is hilarious.

    A fantastic jersey would be Cory Lidle on the Philadelphia Flyers or Winnipeg / New York Jets.[/quote]

    Too soon, dude … way too soon.

    I’m with you on the Montana Chiefs jersey, though. I see several of those every week at Arrowhead and I always cringe.

  • Brinke Guthrie | November 6, 2006 at 8:43 pm |

    Those Oakland Athletics jerseys are now about to be obsolete.

    http://sfgate.com/cg...

  • C.N. | November 6, 2006 at 8:53 pm |

    [quote comment=”19679″]Screwed that up…

    The only good retro jerseys are ones like Montana on the Chiefs or Jerry Rice on the Seahawks. Or Fedorov on the Mighty Ducks. Or Babe Ruth in a Boston Braves uni. Either those, or jerseys of known criminals. Any OJ Simpson jersey is hilarious.

    A fantastic jersey would be Cory Lidle on the Philadelphia Flyers or Winnipeg / New York Jets.[/quote]
    Not so much fantastic as horribly insensitive. You were close though.

  • Teebz | November 6, 2006 at 8:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”19679″]Screwed that up…

    The only good retro jerseys are ones like Montana on the Chiefs or Jerry Rice on the Seahawks. Or Fedorov on the Mighty Ducks. Or Babe Ruth in a Boston Braves uni. Either those, or jerseys of known criminals. Any OJ Simpson jersey is hilarious.

    A fantastic jersey would be Cory Lidle on the Philadelphia Flyers or Winnipeg / New York Jets.[/quote]

    How is Fedorov “retro”? And that Lidle comment is simply poor class.

    Cool NHL jerseys, for me, would include:
    – #99 Gretzky white St. Louis Blues jersey
    – #29 Naslund black diagonal-lettered Pittsburgh Penguins jersey
    – #16 Propp white Minnesota North Stars jersey
    – #94 Shanahan navy Hartford Whalers jersey

    I don’t think I’d ever need any others. Ok, that’s a lie, but those would be amazing to have as part of my collection.

  • Stormy | November 6, 2006 at 10:07 pm |

    I’d just like to say that the Terry Glenn photo is awesome looking. There’s something about the colors, lighting, etc. that keeps me staring at it. The huge version is fantastic. It’s like watching a game in HD.

  • Joe O | November 6, 2006 at 10:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”19610″]Teebz, quel magnifique, mon bon ami! That was brilliant. Paul should have a blog entry on how to spot the fakes; he could lift the entire hockey section from you.

    Here’s the thing. I looked at the pics again on ESPN, and I can’t quite fit what you’re saying with the photos. Would you take, say, the North Stars jersey and tell me how you knew? I know I’m being incredibly dense on this, but I am more of a visual gal.[/quote]

    I’m not an expert…but quick look at the North Stars Jersey, it has the “CCM” logo on the rear hem line rather than the NHL logo. In my experience that says replica, but I haven’t shopped for a jersey that hasn’t been used in a decade plus…

    I could be wrong because its a special “collection”…but those are my two cents

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 11:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”19696″]

    I’m not an expert…but quick look at the North Stars Jersey, it has the “CCM” logo on the rear hem line rather than the NHL logo. In my experience that says replica, but I haven’t shopped for a jersey that hasn’t been used in a decade plus…

    I could be wrong because its a special “collection”…but those are my two cents[/quote]

    Thanks, Joe O., since somebody didn’t get back to me. I don’t know how you can see the tag, let alone know what it says, but even I can tell it’s not the NHL logo. Every time I see the CCM logo, it looks like it starts with an X—or a pair of crossed hockey sticks.

  • Brian in Milwaukee | November 6, 2006 at 11:17 pm |

    This topic had been discussed a long while ago, but I got a pic to illustrate Marquette is among the teams that have names for scholarship players on their jerseys, but not for walk-ons. Pics here.

  • Joe O | November 6, 2006 at 11:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”19697″]

    Thanks, Joe O., since somebody didn’t get back to me. I don’t know how you can see the tag, let alone know what it says, but even I can tell it’s not the NHL logo. Every time I see the CCM logo, it looks like it starts with an X—or a pair of crossed hockey sticks.[/quote]

    I’m not an expoert…but that I’m pretty sure thats the CCM tag in the team colors on the hemline there.

    I could be wrong on whether its authentic or not because that jersey comes from the 80’s…and so do i..

  • John in Athens | November 6, 2006 at 11:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”19687″]Those Oakland Athletics jerseys are now about to be obsolete.

    http://sfgate.com/cg...

    Philadelphia.

    Kansas City.

    Oakland.

    Fremont.

    Move over Boston / Milwaukee / Atlanta Braves, looks like we have a new America’s Team.

  • Teebz | November 6, 2006 at 11:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”19697″]

    Thanks, Joe O., since somebody didn’t get back to me. I don’t know how you can see the tag, let alone know what it says, but even I can tell it’s not the NHL logo. Every time I see the CCM logo, it looks like it starts with an X—or a pair of crossed hockey sticks.[/quote]

    You cut me deep, Shrek. You cut me deep.

    #155 should have told you that it was more than likely a replica since I couldn’t see a fighting strap. The problem with Joe’s assessment is this, as written in my “how to identify an NHL pro jersey” segment:

    – Authentic jerseys prior to 1996, I believe, have the CCM logo embroidered in the teams’ colours in the spot where the puck is now located. Replicas had the CCM logo screened onto the fabric in the same spot.

    If that jersey is, in fact, an authentic it would have the CCM logo embroidered onto the bottom hem. However, since it clearly is sporting a vintage collection tag, it’s a replica as I had deduced in Post #155.

    My skills of deduction are wasted here. Anyone have a murder I can solve? Somebody get me a Scooby snack.

    By the way, Minna, it’s all in good, clean fun that I wrote this. I know you’re poking a little fun. :o)

  • Joe O | November 6, 2006 at 11:24 pm |

    I also tried to zoom in on the next tag…but the picture is too small to differentiate the replica from the authentic…I actually own a replica Lightning jersey…and my fiance owns an authentic…

    Since we hate each others football teams (I’m a fins fan and she is a patsie fan) we decided that we would unite on the hockey front…

  • Joe O | November 6, 2006 at 11:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”19703″][quote comment=”19697″]

    Thanks, Joe O., since somebody didn’t get back to me. I don’t know how you can see the tag, let alone know what it says, but even I can tell it’s not the NHL logo. Every time I see the CCM logo, it looks like it starts with an X—or a pair of crossed hockey sticks.[/quote]

    You cut me deep, Shrek. You cut me deep.

    #155 should have told you that it was more than likely a replica since I couldn’t see a fighting strap. The problem with Joe’s assessment is this, as written in my “how to identify an NHL pro jersey” segment:

    – Authentic jerseys prior to 1996, I believe, have the CCM logo embroidered in the teams’ colours in the spot where the puck is now located. Replicas had the CCM logo screened onto the fabric in the same spot.

    If that jersey is, in fact, an authentic it would have the CCM logo embroidered onto the bottom hem. However, since it clearly is sporting a vintage collection tag, it’s a replica as I had deduced in Post #155.

    My skills of deduction are wasted here. Anyone have a murder I can solve? Somebody get me a Scooby snack.

    By the way, Minna, it’s all in good, clean fun that I wrote this. I know you’re poking a little fun. :o)[/quote]

    Stupid me…oh well…you are probably right…Soon enough all NHL hockey sweaters will look just like NFL jerseys so it’ll be easier to spot a replica!

  • Teebz | November 6, 2006 at 11:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”19704″]I also tried to zoom in on the next tag…but the picture is too small to differentiate the replica from the authentic…I actually own a replica Lightning jersey…and my fiance owns an authentic…

    Since we hate each others football teams (I’m a fins fan and she is a patsie fan) we decided that we would unite on the hockey front…[/quote]

    And hockeys saves yet another marriage. I told you all that this game was great! :o)

  • Teebz | November 6, 2006 at 11:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”19706″]
    Stupid me…oh well…you are probably right…Soon enough all NHL hockey sweaters will look just like NFL jerseys so it’ll be easier to spot a replica![/quote]

    No no no, Joe! You were right on with the assessment. I was off looking to see if CCM had produced any Vintage pro jerseys in Minnesota colours. And I haven’t found any.

  • Mac | November 6, 2006 at 11:35 pm |

    Serious logo creep: OU’s 18 wheeler that hauls around the football equipment has huge Nike swooshes on the front. Like 4 feet long.

  • Joe O | November 6, 2006 at 11:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”19707″][quote comment=”19704″]I also tried to zoom in on the next tag…but the picture is too small to differentiate the replica from the authentic…I actually own a replica Lightning jersey…and my fiance owns an authentic…

    Since we hate each others football teams (I’m a fins fan and she is a patsie fan) we decided that we would unite on the hockey front…[/quote]

    And hockeys saves yet another marriage. I told you all that this game was great! :o)[/quote]

    Yup…Hockey is our sports bridge…people give us funny looks when we walk around holding hands…me in my Dan Marino jersey…and her in her Tom Brady jersey…
    [quote comment=”19708″]
    No no no, Joe! You were right on with the assessment. I was off looking to see if CCM had produced any Vintage pro jerseys in Minnesota colours. And I haven’t found any.[/quote]
    They should make those jerseys…they are sweet!! Somewhat remind me of one of my fave jerseys of all time…The Orlando Thunder!!! I’m still hoping Santa will bring me one of those nifty green jerseys…

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 11:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”19703″][quote comment=”19697″]

    Thanks, Joe O., since somebody didn’t get back to me. I don’t know how you can see the tag, let alone know what it says, but even I can tell it’s not the NHL logo. Every time I see the CCM logo, it looks like it starts with an X—or a pair of crossed hockey sticks.[/quote]

    You cut me deep, Shrek. You cut me deep.

    #155 should have told you that it was more than likely a replica since I couldn’t see a fighting strap. The problem with Joe’s assessment is this, as written in my “how to identify an NHL pro jersey” segment:

    – Authentic jerseys prior to 1996, I believe, have the CCM logo embroidered in the teams’ colours in the spot where the puck is now located. Replicas had the CCM logo screened onto the fabric in the same spot.

    If that jersey is, in fact, an authentic it would have the CCM logo embroidered onto the bottom hem. However, since it clearly is sporting a vintage collection tag, it’s a replica as I had deduced in Post #155.

    My skills of deduction are wasted here. Anyone have a murder I can solve? Somebody get me a Scooby snack.

    By the way, Minna, it’s all in good, clean fun that I wrote this. I know you’re poking a little fun. :o)[/quote]

    But, Shaggy, I am more confused than ever! Vintage? Replica? I thought I knew the differense, but no! What is the Vintape CCM logo? Does it include hockey sticks?

    It’s strange. I have a fairly high compre—ok, Freddy. Let me ask you this. How much would that jersey cost? I know you’ve done this for me before, but can you place a pic of each type (replica, vintage, retro, etc., doesn’t have to be the North Stars) sidi by side so I can see them at the same time?

    Do this, and we can go smoke p—eat Scooby Snacks in the Mystery Van while solving a real mystery, such as where did the Vikings’ mojo go?

    –Velma

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 11:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”19703″][quote comment=”19697″]

    Thanks, Joe O., since somebody didn’t get back to me. I don’t know how you can see the tag, let alone know what it says, but even I can tell it’s not the NHL logo. Every time I see the CCM logo, it looks like it starts with an X—or a pair of crossed hockey sticks.[/quote]

    You cut me deep, Shrek. You cut me deep.

    #155 should have told you that it was more than likely a replica since I couldn’t see a fighting strap. The problem with Joe’s assessment is this, as written in my “how to identify an NHL pro jersey” segment:

    – Authentic jerseys prior to 1996, I believe, have the CCM logo embroidered in the teams’ colours in the spot where the puck is now located. Replicas had the CCM logo screened onto the fabric in the same spot.

    If that jersey is, in fact, an authentic it would have the CCM logo embroidered onto the bottom hem. However, since it clearly is sporting a vintage collection tag, it’s a replica as I had deduced in Post #155.

    My skills of deduction are wasted here. Anyone have a murder I can solve? Somebody get me a Scooby snack.

    By the way, Minna, it’s all in good, clean fun that I wrote this. I know you’re poking a little fun. :o)[/quote]

    Besides, Donkey, you said you’d dig up more but never reported back and Joe O. did. So there!

  • Minna H | November 6, 2006 at 11:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”19711″][quote comment=”19707″][quote comment=”19704″]I also tried to zoom in on the next tag…but the picture is too small to differentiate the replica from the authentic…I actually own a replica Lightning jersey…and my fiance owns an authentic…

    Since we hate each others football teams (I’m a fins fan and she is a patsie fan) we decided that we would unite on the hockey front…[/quote]

    quote]

    Joe O., you should tell your fiancee to wear a Bruschi jersey. He doesn’t get as much pub as Brady does, and he’s cuter. Please tell me her jersey isn’t pink.

    My last ex preferred shopping malls to sports—you can see why we didn’t make it.

    p.s. I’m sure I messed up the editing, so deal.

  • Minna H | November 7, 2006 at 12:00 am |

    And I did.

    Joe O said:

    I also tried to zoom in on the next tag…but the picture is too small to differentiate the replica from the authentic…I actually own a replica Lightning jersey…and my fiance owns an authentic…

    Since we hate each others football teams (I’m a fins fan and she is a patsie fan) we decided that we would unite on the hockey front…

    Velma said:

    Joe O., you should tell your fiancee to wear a Bruschi jersey. He doesn’t get as much pub as Brady does, and he’s cuter. Please tell me her jersey isn’t pink.

    My last ex preferred shopping malls to sports—you can see why we didn’t make it.

  • Minna H | November 7, 2006 at 12:04 am |

    Buckeye California Mike, welcome back, man. Hope the move was easy, and hope you’re still loyal to the scarlet and gray!

  • Teebz | November 7, 2006 at 12:05 am |

    [quote comment=”19713″]
    Besides, Donkey, you said you’d dig up more but never reported back and Joe O. did. So there![/quote]

    Did you just call me an ass? ;o)

    Who says I’m not still looking for pro Minnesota North Stars jerseys for myself? :o)

  • Minna H | November 7, 2006 at 12:07 am |

    That was supposed to be struckthrough.

    BuckeyeCalifornia Mike.

    If it doesn’t work again, then you will be stuck with Buckeye California Mike.

  • Minna H | November 7, 2006 at 12:10 am |

    [quote comment=”19719″][quote comment=”19713″]
    Besides, Donkey, you said you’d dig up more but never reported back and Joe O. did. So there![/quote]

    Did you just call me an ass? ;o)

    Who says I’m not still looking for pro Minnesota North Stars jerseys for myself? :o)[/quote]

    Ahhhh, now the truth comes out: it’s all about you!

    Maybe I did call you an ass. What are you going to do about it?

    Oh, and how’re you coming on my Christmas present? You must have a hot-line to Santa as you’re so close to the North Pole.

    I kid because I care.

  • Minna H | November 7, 2006 at 12:14 am |

    Since we are on the topic of hockey, how in the (*&!!!*!*!*!# is this ‘old-time hockey’ at all???????

    Death to pink!

  • Teebz | November 7, 2006 at 12:19 am |

    [quote comment=”19721″]

    Ahhhh, now the truth comes out: it’s all about you!

    Maybe I did call you an ass. What are you going to do about it?

    Oh, and how’re you coming on my Christmas present? You must have a hot-line to Santa as you’re so close to the North Pole.

    I kid because I care.[/quote]

    My igloo has a good view of the actual North Pole. Depending on how I feel, I may enter the Iditarod this year. I don’t wanna put too many miles on the ol’ dog sled, though. I’m still making payments. :o)

    And since I was the one who doctored that Polamalu picture with your “Minna 4 Life” wish, it’s gotta be all about me. ;o)

    I’ll grab my camera tomorrow and show you a few NHL pro jerseys from different eras. They’ll be good examples of how they changed.

  • Brendan | November 7, 2006 at 12:19 am |

    I was watching the football game tonight, and I noticed that one of the Raiders’ defenders (number 52 I think) had an American flag belt buckle. A good sized one, too. It looked really tacky…

  • Brian | November 7, 2006 at 12:25 am |

    Here’s this years Iowa Basketball jersey . Not a fan of the front piping in the lower part of the jersey.

  • Brian | November 7, 2006 at 12:26 am |

    How about I just give the link?

    http://a712.g.akamai...

  • Minna H | November 7, 2006 at 12:26 am |

    [quote comment=”19724]
    My igloo has a good view of the actual North Pole. Depending on how I feel, I may enter the Iditarod this year. I don’t wanna put too many miles on the ol’ dog sled, though. I’m still making payments. :o)

    And since I was the one who doctored that Polamalu picture with your “Minna 4 Life” wish, it’s gotta be all about me. ;o)

    I’ll grab my camera tomorrow and show you a few NHL pro jerseys from different eras. They’ll be good examples of how they changed.[/quote]

    Teebz, you do the Iditarod? That’s really cool. You do not have an igloo be cause that would be excellent. You part Inuit?

    You get me what I want you Christmas, and it will be all about you. For the pic, it’s just a little about you.

    Thanks in advance for putting in work with your camera for me. I much appreciate it. If you do the Iditarod, you have to take pics. When is it?

    Seriously. An igloo? Do you ice-fish in it?

  • Brendan | November 7, 2006 at 12:27 am |

    Also, in response to the possibly overprotected indoor lacrosse goalies: They need all that protection to keep the score (and consequently the game time) under control. It’s not uncommon for an NLL game to end with a final of 18-15 or so, even with all the pads. Also, the sticks in indoor lacrosse are allowed to be modified more than outdoor sticks are, which result in much faster and more accurate shots, with a ball heavier than a hockey puck, and from closer range than in field lacrosse.

    They wouldn’t be receiving bruises without those pads, they’d be receiving fractures.

  • Big Ed | November 7, 2006 at 12:28 am |

    i pose this question…is Nike just adding tabs to Oakley visors on teams like Ohio State or do they make visors now??? i have looked around and haven’t found Nike visors….

  • Teebz | November 7, 2006 at 12:31 am |

    [quote comment=”19740″]
    Seriously. An igloo? Do you ice-fish in it?[/quote]

    House. Don’t ice-fish in it. Two cars, one for work and one for pleasure. No Iditarod. Not even close.

    Pictures, I can do, though! And I’ll think about the Christmas present. ;o)

  • Minna H | November 7, 2006 at 12:41 am |

    [quote comment=”19763″][quote comment=”19740″]
    Seriously. An igloo? Do you ice-fish in it?[/quote]

    House. Don’t ice-fish in it. Two cars, one for work and one for pleasure. No Iditarod. Not even close.

    Pictures, I can do, though! And I’ll think about the Christmas present. ;o)[/quote]

    Ah, damn. That would have been really cool. Thanks for explaining your elusive Canadian humor to me. Does this mean you’re not Inuit? But you are bilingial. You’re not a Mountie, though. A car for work. What do you do, or shouldn’t I ask? Will you have to kill me if you tell me?

    If you get me what I *really* want for Christmas, I will probably keel over dead before I had a chance to enjoy. I will be very grateful to you, however, if wishes do come true.

    The pics, though, that’s the important thing. You should wear the jerseys when you take the pics.

  • Tim from MD by way of OH | November 7, 2006 at 12:51 am |

    In keeping with the Terry Glenn Buckeye award sticker sighting, I was watching the CMA Awards during breaks from the Monday night game and noticed that the bass player Jay DeMarcus, from the group Rascal Flatts was playing a Scarlet Bass guitar with Buckeyes near the neckjoint. He is from Columbus as is the lead singer. The picture is from the NFL Kickoff concert.

  • Jeff I | November 7, 2006 at 12:54 am |

    Not sure if this has been said before, as I dont watch many Raider games, but Andrew Walter’s entire jersey is mesh, including the upper part, while his teamates have the traditional mesh body, but fabric shoulders.

    It’s nearly impossible to make out not on HD, but here are pics nonetheless

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    http://espn-i.starwa...

  • Minna H | November 7, 2006 at 1:02 am |

    [quote comment=”19756″]i pose this question…is Nike just adding tabs to Oakley visors on teams like Ohio State or do they make visors now??? i have looked around and haven’t found Nike visors….[/quote]

    Big Ed, per Paul: looks like Nike is making visors

    Tab Hunter

    Look in the section called Tab Hunter. I’m sure it’s been discussed before, but I’m going to bed so no more further looking by me.

  • Tim from MD by way of OH | November 7, 2006 at 1:09 am |
  • Mike from Queens | November 7, 2006 at 2:19 am |

    “Poor class,” “horribly insensitive,” and “brutal.” That about sums me up. Thank you for judging me and labeling me via Internet. That’s class right there. Hm… you mean like someone flying a potentially destructive aircraft in terrible conditions without proper training in a city more susceptible to terrorism than anywhere else? Oh wait… what hurts more? My words, or his plane?

  • Andy from KC | November 7, 2006 at 7:48 am |

    [quote comment=”19774″]”Poor class,” “horribly insensitive,” and “brutal.” That about sums me up. Thank you for judging me and labeling me via Internet. That’s class right there. Hm… you mean like someone flying a potentially destructive aircraft in terrible conditions without proper training in a city more susceptible to terrorism than anywhere else? Oh wait… what hurts more? My words, or his plane?[/quote]

    For the love of God, just let it drop already.

  • Andy from KC | November 7, 2006 at 8:00 am |

    [quote comment=”19737″]Here’s this years Iowa Basketball jersey . Not a fan of the front piping in the lower part of the jersey.[/quote]

    I like it. I’m wondering if the piping is supposed to be contiguous with the piping on the shorts. If so, that’d be kinda cool–it’s a pretty narrow stripe, though, so I’m sure we’ll see all kinds of broken lines. The road jersey looks very sharp too.

  • Andy from KC | November 7, 2006 at 8:04 am |

    I said “I like it” referring to the jersey–the piping’s OK; I don’t think it looks bad.

  • shadoquad | November 7, 2006 at 8:42 am |

    [quote comment=”19638″]I think Al Stone should try Box Lax (the more popular version in Canada) before talking smack about it.

    I played Box Lax as a ‘tender, and it was much harder and tougher than ice hockey ‘tending (which I also do). Believe it or not, these people have amazing accuracy with their shots and the ball has a knack of finding holes in the padding.

    And even when it hits the padding, you feel it, I got bruises through the arm and chest protector.

    I only had 4 floor times before I was hurt by a shot that dislocated my thumb and stretched some ligaments on my right hand (it’s now set on a slightly different angle than my other thumb, which is pretty cool).

    So yes, it’s just as tough as an outdoor lacrosse goalie’s job.[/quote]

    I’m Al. I’ve played indoor AND outdoor. I’m sorry, I realize it takes skill, because it’s in close and whatnot, but it’s a lot harder to be an outdoor goalie. A guy died from taking a shot in outdoor. Please don’t justify your eight tons of padding to me. It takes nowhere near the athleticism to play an indoor goalie as it does the outdoor game. That’s why in college lacrosse a great goaltender can spell championships.

  • shadoquad | November 7, 2006 at 8:55 am |

    [quote comment=”19785″][quote comment=”19638″]I think Al Stone should try Box Lax (the more popular version in Canada) before talking smack about it.

    I played Box Lax as a ‘tender, and it was much harder and tougher than ice hockey ‘tending (which I also do). Believe it or not, these people have amazing accuracy with their shots and the ball has a knack of finding holes in the padding.

    And even when it hits the padding, you feel it, I got bruises through the arm and chest protector.

    I only had 4 floor times before I was hurt by a shot that dislocated my thumb and stretched some ligaments on my right hand (it’s now set on a slightly different angle than my other thumb, which is pretty cool).

    So yes, it’s just as tough as an outdoor lacrosse goalie’s job.[/quote]

    I’m Al. I’ve played indoor AND outdoor. I’m sorry, I realize it takes skill, because it’s in close and whatnot, but it’s a lot harder to be an outdoor goalie. A guy died from taking a shot in outdoor. Please don’t justify your eight tons of padding to me. It takes nowhere near the athleticism to play an indoor goalie as it does the outdoor game. That’s why in college lacrosse a great goaltender can spell championships.[/quote]

    Heck, I’ll go a step further. Every part of the outdoor game implies more athleticism. The field is huge. Every one of the 10 players has to be in top shape. Shots come at you from everywhere in a variety of speeds and screens. In box lacrosse, you have 5 attackmen and a fridge with a stick. Lax is hard no matter how it’s played, but it requires more skill and more endurance to play outdoor. Maybe it’s just my Maryland bias.

  • Smail | November 7, 2006 at 12:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”19710″]Serious logo creep: OU’s 18 wheeler that hauls around the football equipment has huge Nike swooshes on the front. Like 4 feet long.[/quote]

    Fortunately, all their schools have yet to follow suit. Here’s Ohio State’s equipment truck. Click on photo gallery for some great shots, all of which are swoosh-free.

  • Taylor | November 7, 2006 at 1:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”19781″][quote comment=”19737″]Here’s this years Iowa Basketball jersey . Not a fan of the front piping in the lower part of the jersey.[/quote]

    I like it. I’m wondering if the piping is supposed to be contiguous with the piping on the shorts. If so, that’d be kinda cool–it’s a pretty narrow stripe, though, so I’m sure we’ll see all kinds of broken lines. The road jersey looks very sharp too.[/quote]

    Didn’t Iowa have those jerseys last year?

  • Taylor | November 7, 2006 at 5:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”19880″][quote comment=”19710″]Serious logo creep: OU’s 18 wheeler that hauls around the football equipment has huge Nike swooshes on the front. Like 4 feet long.[/quote]

    Fortunately, all their schools have yet to follow suit. Here’s Ohio State’s equipment truck. Click on photo gallery for some great shots, all of which are swoosh-free.[/quote]

    Swoosh free? WQhoa, refreshing! I guess even Nike can’t claim that it makes 18 wheelers. :)