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White Glove Treatment

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Lots of good uni-related action last night in Major League Baseball, beginning in St. Louis, where Brewers pitcher Chris Spurling took the mound in the bottom of the 7th wearing a white glove. As we’ve discussed before, this is technically against the rules (position players can wear light-colored gloves, but not pitchers), although it’s rarely enforced. But this umpiring crew apparently felt they needed the exercise. So as Spurling warmed up, the umps conferred, pointed at him, and then came over for a closer look, which of course attracted the attention of nimble-minded Cardinals announcers Dan McLaughlin and Al Hrabosky:

McLaughlin: What’s goin’ on here?

Hrabosky: Ahhh, they’re gonna check his glove, or something. Now they’re gonna bring out [Brewers manager] Ned Yost. Looks like it has some abbreviation for his name.

McLaughlin: “Spur.”

Hrabosky: “Spur 48,” number 48. He was with Detroit, that was his number with Detroit. [Spurling now wears No. 50 with the Brewers.]

McLaughlin: Because the glove is white…

Hrabosky: The glove is tan…

McLaughlin: Right.

Hrabosky: And that may be sayin’…

McLaughlin: Hides the ball.

Hrabosky: Yeah, it’s too close to the color of the ball. Kinda matches, y’know, the sleeve there. [Tries to use the Telestrator to draw a line on the gold trim of Spurling’s sleeve, but the director changes to another camera view and Hrabosky ends up drawing his line on Ned Yost instead.] They may make him change it. Obviously this’d be the first time, if they do. [Long pause as umps confer.] Gonna make him change gloves. [Spurling trades in his glove for a dark model.]

McLaughlin [groping for something relevant to say]: 40,313 in attendance tonight. [Pause.] You don’t see that very often, do you?

Hrabosky: No. But I can honestly say I think that’s the first time I’ve seen that color glove, too.

McLaughlin [making completely nonsensical reference to Joe Neikro]: Yeah. At least an emory board didn’t fly out of his back pocket.

Sound familiar? If you go back two months to the transcript of Todd Walker’s jersey snafu, you’ll find that McLaughlin pulled exactly the same routine. Basically, when a situation annoys him and he has nothing useful to say, he snidely mentions the attendance and suggests that the whole incident is a waste of everyone’s time, especially his. Dude clearly needs to get his priorities straight.

Meanwhile, up in the Bronx, the underbill inscription phenomenon got a small amount of airtime during last night’s Yankees/Orioles game, as play-by-play man Michael Kay noticed that Yanks starter Darrell Rasner had something scribbled under there. Here’s the short discussion Kay had with color commentator Al Leiter:

Kay: We just got a shot of Rasner, and he has something written under the bill of his hat. And you see that with a lot of pitchers. You have any literature under the bill of your hat?

Leiter: Yeah, early on I used to have, uh, KISS.

Kay: “Keep it simple, stupid”?

Leiter: Mm-hmm.

Kay: So it was not an homage to Gene Simmons, Ace Frehley, anything like that?

Leiter: No.

Uni watchery and lame-o hard rock references all in one sound bite, not too shabby.

(Big thanks to Laura Koenig and Eric Ritschdorff for the tips.)

Uni Watch News Ticker: The Bucks unveiled their new uniforms yesterday. And while the Xmas-esque color scheme is a bit problematic, it’s clearly a major upgrade over what they had before. … Speaking of Milwaukee, my radio interview on WUWM’s Lake Effect radio show, recorded last month at the Milkwaukee Uni Watch party, finally aired on Wednesday night. You can access the audio file here. … Joe Poll was poking around the Broncos’ web site and turned up this article about equipment manager Chris Valenti. The site also includes this 2005 Q&A session that Valenti conducted — good stuff. … Has anyone else noticed how bad Pedro Martinez’s karma has been since he failed to cash our check?

 

144 comments to White Glove Treatment

  • The Original Lee | September 29, 2006 at 5:11 am |

    I like the early posting. makes it nice for the international uniwatchers out there.

  • murph | September 29, 2006 at 5:17 am |

    Just a couple of opinions on the new Bucks unis:

    I hate that shiny material on many of these basketball uniforms. To me it just looks cheap.

    I wish the Roads said, “Milwaukee” but I like it anyway.

    Something looks odd about the shorts seeming way bigger than the shirts. Especially on the guy on the right.

    I’m glad the old colors are back – Christmas not withstanding.

  • Tape | September 29, 2006 at 6:30 am |

    Wow. I expected there to be much more “modern” (read: Nike-like) crap on the new Bucks duds. I’m actually quite excited about the new ones. a decent combo of their recent designs and retro. and they’re so simple!

    two nitpicks:
    1) I still am not really a fan of that typeface.
    2) Dear NBA: lose the shiny fabric.

    ultimately, while the only thing I will accept as Milwaukee Bucks gospel is this, these new unis are a major, major upgrade from what they were stuck with for the last decade or so.

  • Tape | September 29, 2006 at 6:32 am |

    speaking of xmas… bring this back!

  • Gregg | September 29, 2006 at 7:01 am |

    [quote comment=”11050″]speaking of xmas… bring this back![/quote]

    Those Devils jerseys always made me think of watermelons for some reason.

  • Anthony | September 29, 2006 at 7:01 am |

    [quote comment=”11050″]speaking of xmas… bring this back![/quote]

    YES!! I agree…

    Although I don’t think too many uni watch readers will share our opinion. There was a bunch of commenting on this topic a week or two ago. It led to people bashing the logo and saying it was cartoony.

  • matt in the nati | September 29, 2006 at 8:32 am |

    for starters i love the devils logo cause it takes a second look to get all the elements but is still simple…

    pedro’s karma couldn’t be worst… notice mostly that his injury is in the exact spot of his uniform infraction… if he would have just hike his socks the tendon would have been protected…

  • Robert | September 29, 2006 at 8:34 am |

    I cannot stand the shiny material, either in the NBA or the NFL.

    As for the Bucks specifically, the new uniforms are fine, and I thought that the purple ones were ok too. I have no problem with purple if it is done right (e.g., Vikings until this year).

  • Richard | September 29, 2006 at 8:41 am |

    This should show Pedro that he shouldn’t mess with the powers of the UniWatchers!

    Next time, just cash Paul’s check

  • Zack | September 29, 2006 at 8:50 am |

    Does this count as a win or a loss in the war on Christmas?

    Anyway, that color scheme just isn’t doing it for me, and the striping in the side panels doesn’t look very sharp, especially the white on the aways.

    I’d love to se a return to this

  • ESS | September 29, 2006 at 8:51 am |

    [quote comment=”11052″][quote comment=”11050″]speaking of xmas… bring this back![/quote]

    YES!! I agree…

    Although I don’t think too many uni watch readers will share our opinion. There was a bunch of commenting on this topic a week or two ago. It led to people bashing the logo and saying it was cartoony.[/quote]

    I am all for bringing back the old Devils jerseys. And I hate the Devils! I did always like their unis though, until they changed them.

  • Brian W | September 29, 2006 at 8:56 am |

    My wife & I were watching the Brewers “white glove” fiasco and I just knew that Uni Watch would be all over it!

    McLaughlin & Hrabosky were cranky last night about EVERYTHING as they were watching their Redbirds go into the tank. They needed to lighten up about everything, not just all issues uni-related.

    Note to Mssrs. Hrabosky & McLaughlin: your club is still in first place, and trust me as a (gulp) Pirate fan, it could be A LOT worse. Fourteen consecutive losing seasons, for instance…

  • Rich | September 29, 2006 at 8:58 am |

    I agree with Hrabosky, that glove is tan, not white.
    And yeah, Tape (#3), that Buck road jersey is just too shiny, almost Dallas-Maverick-silver-shiny!

  • Chris S. | September 29, 2006 at 9:27 am |

    Niekro is a sore subject for me, so I can’t resist commenting. The guy was railroaded – did any one stop to think about how exactly he was managing to discreetly rough up the ball with an object in his back pocket? In front of thousands of people and a TV audience? It did not happen, people. The board was for exactly what he said it was for.

    Anyway, I’m glad they made Spurling change the glove.

  • John | September 29, 2006 at 9:35 am |

    The new Bucks unis are a huge improvement. Granted, they could have updated the logo, or even brought back the old-school Bango logo. But all in all, it’s a lot better than I had expected. The pairing of green and red is in my opinion an underused color combo.

  • Mark Dancer | September 29, 2006 at 9:43 am |

    I actually like the red and green quite a bit. It’s time we start claiming color combinations back from holidays. Why should Christmas be teh only time that red and green are allowed to be seen together? They look good together, and they will look great filling the arena. I could care less about the Bucks, but I am all about bringing some life back to that tired-looking franchise.

    Now that new off-center “Buck Head” logo of theirs, however… That’s a different story.

  • a arauz | September 29, 2006 at 9:44 am |

    [quote comment=”11063″]Niekro is a sore subject for me, so I can’t resist commenting.

    The guy was railroaded – did any one stop to think about how exactly he was managing to discreetly rough up the ball with an object in his back pocket? In front of thousands of people and a TV audience? It did not happen, people. The board was for exactly what he said it was for.

    Anyway, I’m glad they made Spurling change the glove.[/quote]
    You’re right… the guy would have had to have been David Blaine (hehehehehe) to make that happen in front of 35K ppl. Railroaded is right.

  • Andy Head | September 29, 2006 at 9:44 am |

    In advance, sorry for the long post. Loved the radio interview. Just a couple of thoughts that occurred to me as I was listening…

    Did they say the Admirals’ practice facility is the Mullet Ice Center?

    Paul, the Jaguars? Wow… I had no idea. Another of what I would call your guilty pleasures, though, has got to be the original Tampa Bay Devil Rays unis. I’ve seen you hype those jerseys a couple times now, and I just don’t get it, what with the rainbow lettering and all…

    I suppose since we’re all similarly obsessed, I can finally admit this in public. When I was a kid, every summer I used to sit down and draw and color every team logo in MLB and decorate my room with them. Think I did it once with the NFL, too, but I was pretty good with the baseball logos. Once a friend of mine had me draw him up a big (like 3′ x 3′) Blue Jays logo, and later in life that same drawing ended up in the background of a picture of the governor (I grew up in Alaska) in our local newspaper. Long story.

  • ChrisM70 | September 29, 2006 at 9:45 am |

    The Bucks’ uniforms are better. I agree that the shiny fabric is not good, but they look much more like retro uniforms…

    http://seriousstyles...

  • JJD | September 29, 2006 at 9:46 am |

    Allow me to echo the “I hate shiny fabric”-comments. It makes the Nuggets look like they are wearing WNBA uniforms and it’s really not necessary on these new Bucks-duds. The Raptors got it right in passing on the shiny-ness.

  • Kenny | September 29, 2006 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”11071″]Allow me to echo the “I hate shiny fabric”-comments. It makes the Nuggets look like they are wearing WNBA uniforms and it’s really not necessary on these new Bucks-duds. The Raptors got it right in passing on the shiny-ness.[/quote]

    I was actually pretty excited to see the new Bucks uni’s (although I am a Bulls fan). I was very, VERY disappointed to see the shiny fabric. I would have loved to seen this.

    And in regard to the Nuggets and the WNBA:

    Nuggets

    Chicago Sky

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | September 29, 2006 at 10:02 am |

    a. i’ll sign the “i hate the shiny fabric on pro sports uniforms” petition. the “dazzle” or “shimmer” style, or how it has been referred to by manufacturers is fine to wear on your summer league teams at the playgrounds, but not as an nba franchise

    b. when it comes to white leather in baseball, what are we defining it as? any none black or dark brown leather on gloves? i’m convinced i own a pair of casual shoes that are that color, and they are definitely not white. when i hear the term “wearing the whites” i think of either a member of the us navy or naval academy in their dress whites, or rocking a pair of crispy new air force 1’s.

    c. every time i read something about the devils and their unis, i cant help but think of their number 1 fan who is there to “support the team”. david puddy. “nobody messes with the devils. nobody.” incidently although he rocked the white red and black marty brodeur jersey, he painted his face red and green…

  • specs | September 29, 2006 at 10:05 am |

    [quote comment=”11047″]I hate that shiny material on many of these basketball uniforms. To me it just looks cheap.[/quote]

    Agreed. And couldn’t someone find Andrew Bogut an iron? The wrinkles make the jersey look even thinner and cheaper in addition to the shiny fabric.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | September 29, 2006 at 10:12 am |

    oh, and, uh, adidas has started to release a ton of nba stuff. just do an eastbay search for adidas nba…
    althought their “authentic” shorts are confusing. the alternate shorts are sans logo, whereas the regular shorts have one.

  • Paul Lukas | September 29, 2006 at 10:16 am |

    [quote comment=”11068″]Paul, the Jaguars? Wow… I had no idea. Another of what I would call your guilty pleasures, though, has got to be the original Tampa Bay Devil Rays unis. I’ve seen you hype those jerseys a couple times now, and I just don’t get it, what with the rainbow lettering and all…[/quote]

    I do indeed like the Jaguars’ uni. I like the colors (the turquoise somehow looks classy when accented with gold and black), I love the number typeface, and I really like the helmet. If they can resist changing this design (unlikely, but we can hope), I honestly believe it will be considered a classic 20 yrs from now.

    As for the D-Rays, I think you’re confusing me with someone else. I’m on record as calling Tampa’s inaugural uniform the worst in MLB history. I have no problem with their current set, however, which I think is perfectly fine.

  • Miguel | September 29, 2006 at 10:29 am |

    Anyone else think the Bucks should wear the black shoes on the road and the white shoes at home?

  • MetsfanAZ | September 29, 2006 at 10:32 am |

    [quote comment=”11057″]This should show Pedro that he shouldn’t mess with the powers of the UniWatchers!

    Next time, just cash Paul’s check[/quote]
    Karma Shmarma! Doesn’t this all go back to him slipping in the clubhouse when the umps made him take off or alter his Nike dot matrix shirt in May. He hurts his hip, starts limping around, probably strains both of his calves trying to compensate… AARRGGHH! I agree he should have cashed the check and looked good with high socks but I place the blame on the swoosh.
    Let’s go Mets!

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | September 29, 2006 at 10:42 am |

    i wonder if michael redd is going to be added to the brand jordan stable soon based on his uniform debut footwear.

  • Natron | September 29, 2006 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”11078″]Anyone else think the Bucks should wear the black shoes on the road and the white shoes at home?[/quote]

    I think every team should do that… In both the NBA & NFL.

  • Brian from Short Island | September 29, 2006 at 10:43 am |

    Puh-lease, Pedro injured is a plus for the Mets. He’s pitched in one big game as a Met, on a Wednesday in August of last year. The Mets are .5 games back in the Wild Card on Philly, who they are playing. Pedro on the hill. He gives up four bombs, the Mets lose, season down the drain.

    Given this team, I’m satisfied with Duque, Glavine and Maine or Traschel.

  • Av Doomchin | September 29, 2006 at 10:45 am |

    [quote comment=”11075″][quote comment=”11047″]I hate that shiny material on many of these basketball uniforms. To me it just looks cheap.[/quote]

    Agreed. And couldn’t someone find Andrew Bogut an iron? The wrinkles make the jersey look even thinner and cheaper in addition to the shiny fabric.[/quote]

    Besides the Bogut mess, anyone else notice how uncomfrotable mike redd looked in his uniform. Looked like his shorts were a XXL and his Jersey was a Child Small. Were the bucks going for the NHLs new tappered narrow look? Sounds funny, but seriously are they?

  • Natron | September 29, 2006 at 10:46 am |

    What’s going on with the heel of Redd’s right foot in this picture?

    Is there something there or is it just me? Is it just the paint on the floor messing with my eyes, warm-ups, toilet paper… what’s going on?

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | September 29, 2006 at 10:54 am |

    [quote comment=”11084″]What’s going on with the heel of Redd’s right foot in this picture?

    Is there something there or is it just me? Is it just the paint on the floor messing with my eyes, warm-ups, toilet paper… what’s going on?[/quote]

    i wondered that too, but im sure they came out in warm ups and then tore them off for the unveiling of the uni…thats probably a pant leg…

  • mike | September 29, 2006 at 10:56 am |

    I agree with everyone who has said they don’t care for the shiny material or the typeface of the new Bucks uniform.

    It’s far from perfect, but I think it’s an upgrade, and it turned out much, much better than I thought they would when the team made the announcment that they were switching to red and green.

    Final Grade: B

  • Kenny | September 29, 2006 at 10:56 am |

    [quote comment=”11084″]What’s going on with the heel of Redd’s right foot in this picture?

    Is there something there or is it just me? Is it just the paint on the floor messing with my eyes, warm-ups, toilet paper… what’s going on?[/quote]

    It almost looks like his shoe is melting to the floor…maybe a warm-up if they announced those too

    Also look how the fabric on Bogut’s jersey is pulling by the lettering already

  • Forrest | September 29, 2006 at 11:02 am |

    Finally, some online pictures arrived of UNCo’s new road blue pants, courtesy of New Balance. Apologies for the SEA OF PURPLE in the foreground, but it is from Weber State’s website. But seriously? Eww…
    The Sam Safken patch was alive and well last night too, but alas, no pictures so far. The Greeley Tribune ran a picture of it, but their online version fails to include it.

  • Riff | September 29, 2006 at 11:11 am |

    I was googling the Orioles logo for my softball team at work and came across quite a gem on Chris Creamer’s site. It’s a redesign concept for the Orioles. Not that they should or will ever change their look, but I think the designs have some merit.

  • SpartyCuse | September 29, 2006 at 11:13 am |

    [quote comment=”11088″]Finally, some online pictures arrived of UNCo’s new road blue pants, courtesy of New Balance. Apologies for the SEA OF PURPLE in the foreground, but it is from Weber State’s website. But seriously? Eww…
    The Sam Safken patch was alive and well last night too, but alas, no pictures so far. The Greeley Tribune ran a picture of it, but their online version fails to include it.[/quote]

    Too bad the NCAA patch doesnt fully cover the Adidas logo creep on that purple monster.

  • Andrew | September 29, 2006 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”11066″]I actually like the red and green quite a bit. It’s time we start claiming color combinations back from holidays. Why should Christmas be teh only time that red and green are allowed to be seen together? They look good together, and they will look great filling the arena. I could care less about the Bucks, but I am all about bringing some life back to that tired-looking franchise.

    Now that new off-center “Buck Head” logo of theirs, however… That’s a different story.[/quote]

    How about black and orange as good-looking holiday colors? The Bengals notwithstanding, those two colors always go well to my eye. I will admit, though, I have a soft spot for orange, even if I am a son of a Texas A&M alum.

    As far as the Jags’ unis go, I like the original set just fine, but can’t stand the black jersey or pants; those are just awful to me.

    Also, I remember Paul saying quite a while ago (I want to say in his first ESPN column, but I’m not sure) that the Thrashers’ uniforms are another “modern” set he likes. I disagree with him, but I would like to know why he likes those uniforms.

  • Jonathon | September 29, 2006 at 11:28 am |

    Nice to hear that Paul likes the Jags’ unis. As part of the 1% of America that roots for the Jags (according to Harris Interactive), I love the Jags’ unis. At first I disapproved of the change from traditional numbers. The 95-96 jersey was great.
    http://www.jaguars.c...

    Then Nike went overboard and added black side panels in 1997 (look at Clyde Simmons and Pete Mitchell – which is really Jeff Lageman, I think)
    http://www.sportsecy...

    They toned it down by 1999, and they have had the same jersey since (except for the addition of a black alternate jersey and black pants). The black pants, however, have gone through 2 incarnations. They originally had stripes similar to the white pants (look at Leftwich in the line above).

    The helmet has always been great. I’m glad they had to nix the prototype b/c it was too close to the carmaker logo (scroll down).
    http://www.misterhab...

  • Jonathon | September 29, 2006 at 11:44 am |

    Not sure about the uni design, but I like the idea of a two-tone stirrup/sock combo.

    http://smg.photobuck...

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | September 29, 2006 at 12:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”11095″]Not sure about the uni design, but I like the idea of a two-tone stirrup/sock combo.

    http://smg.photobuck...

    props to the guy for all the effort and the creativity. but jeez, thats pretty over the top! i actually think he may have been commissioned to do the uni’s for any given sunday and the new rollerball!

  • Robert | September 29, 2006 at 12:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”11090″]I was googling the Orioles logo for my softball team at work and came across quite a gem on Chris Creamer’s site. It’s a redesign concept for the Orioles. Not that they should or will ever change their look, but I think the designs have some merit.[/quote]

    I must respectfully but vehemently disagree. The Orioles look has changed over the years, but it has been consistently good and has never offended. The redesign in the link features creativity run amok.

  • Eric | September 29, 2006 at 12:06 pm |

    Put me down as a Jag uni lover … pre-black pants of course which make little sense. I’d have changed the pants from white to, not black, but the metallic gold that is already in their uni. That could have been one for the ages.

    Two more thumbs (and more if I had them) way down for shiny NBA unis. That trend has to peter out soon.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | September 29, 2006 at 12:07 pm |

    although he did have the dbacks in brick red, sand and black last year in his concept…
    http://smg.photobuck...

  • Wade | September 29, 2006 at 12:11 pm |

    A little college football here…why does Auburn refuse to match the stripes on their pants to their helmet and jersey?

    Link

  • redemske | September 29, 2006 at 12:14 pm |

    Those MLB uniform concepts are just plain offensive. The Orioles look like a football team. Then again, in real life, they sure don’t look like a baseball team.

  • Kim | September 29, 2006 at 12:21 pm |

    So are the Bucks now an affiliate with the Minnesota Wild? That color combo is awfully close.

  • Andy Head | September 29, 2006 at 12:21 pm |

    [quote comment=”11077″]As for the D-Rays, I think you’re confusing me with someone else. I’m on record as calling Tampa’s inaugural uniform the worst in MLB history. I have no problem with their current set, however, which I think is perfectly fine.[/quote]

    I must have gotten that backwards, my apologies. But I don’t like the current set, either, so I knew we disagreed on one of the D-Rays unis.

  • frankenslade | September 29, 2006 at 12:23 pm |

    That new, green Bucks uniform looks like cheep Christmas ribbon that a department store would use to wrap gifts. It’s good to see their old colors back, but the uniform material looks shiny to the point of gaudy?

  • John | September 29, 2006 at 12:30 pm |

    [quote comment=”11103″]So are the Bucks now an affiliate with the Minnesota Wild? That color combo is awfully close.[/quote]

    No, the Bucks just went back to their original colors (worn until the mid-80s) which the Wild had appropriated.

  • Taylor Gaddy | September 29, 2006 at 12:36 pm |

    I like the new Bucks jerseys. HUGE improvement over their previous ones. I’m in the minority on this, but I like the shiny jerseys. They remind me of the old UNLV jerseys from back in the day.

    So many “new” jerseys (read: anything made by Nike) are ugly (Kentucky, Arizona, Florida, etc.) It’s refreshing to have a new jersey that isn’t brutal.

    On another note, does anybody know where I can order George Mason shorts made by Nike?

  • Richard | September 29, 2006 at 12:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”11107″]I like the new Bucks jerseys. HUGE improvement over their previous ones. I’m in the minority on this, but I like the shiny jerseys. They remind me of the old UNLV jerseys from back in the day.

    So many “new” jerseys (read: anything made by Nike) are ugly (Kentucky, Arizona, Florida, etc.) It’s refreshing to have a new jersey that isn’t brutal.

    On another note, does anybody know where I can order George Mason shorts made by Nike?[/quote]

    you just trashed Nike, and then said yo uwanted some of their shorts…
    make sense to ANYONE?

  • Ian K | September 29, 2006 at 12:50 pm |

    [quote comment=”11099″]although he did have the dbacks in brick red, sand and black last year in his concept…
    http://smg.photobuck...

    I think this and the Orioles concept are fun to look at as long as they never, ever go into actual production.

  • Taylor Gaddy | September 29, 2006 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”11109″][quote comment=”11107″]I like the new Bucks jerseys. HUGE improvement over their previous ones. I’m in the minority on this, but I like the shiny jerseys. They remind me of the old UNLV jerseys from back in the day.

    So many “new” jerseys (read: anything made by Nike) are ugly (Kentucky, Arizona, Florida, etc.) It’s refreshing to have a new jersey that isn’t brutal.

    On another note, does anybody know where I can order George Mason shorts made by Nike?[/quote]

    you just trashed Nike, and then said yo uwanted some of their shorts…
    make sense to ANYONE?[/quote]

    No, I said the NEW jerseys Nike made are ugly. The style shorts that George Mason wear is an OLD DESIGN that was first introduced in the mid-90s (worn by Penn St., Ok. St., a few other teams, I forget). GMU does not wear NEW style Nike jerseys (like LSU, Florida, Wake Forest, Iowa, etc.) Up until a few years ago Nike made some nice college basketball jerseys. Too bad they’ve really gone downhill with their NEW designs.

  • Andy Head | September 29, 2006 at 12:55 pm |

    Just so Paul isn’t the only one confessing guilty pleasures… I love the Kansas City Royals uniforms. No, not the old baby blues (which I know some people really like), but what they wear today. The blue alts, the road greys… can’t get enough. But this is the only place I’ll admit it.

  • Taylor Gaddy | September 29, 2006 at 12:56 pm |

    Paul,

    On another subject have you heard anything about the Wizards ever getting new jerseys? The current ones the Wizards have are rough, in my opinion.

    Thanks.

  • John Ekdahl | September 29, 2006 at 12:57 pm |

    Anyone notice that those MLB concept unis (orioles, dbacks, braves) look very NFL-ish?

    I don’t particularly like them, but I would be interested to see more of his designs if anyone has links. He is creative anyway….

  • Minna H | September 29, 2006 at 1:00 pm |

    Oh, so shiny! Those Bucks unis have got to go. The whites are fine, but those shiny Christmas ones are an eyesore. Maybe it’s because I don’t like Christmas, but green and red together doesn’t sit well with me. I like the Wild unis for some odd reason, but I dislike the Bucks—back to the purple, please.

    Oh, as to those concept designs—please burn them so no exec actually thinks they’re a good idea.

  • Burrill | September 29, 2006 at 1:02 pm |

    As far as those MLB concept uniforms, I’m not too fond of the Tigers concept. He didn’t go as overboard with those as he did with some others, but there’s not a whole lot of Olde English D left in them. Even then, it’s a New Tiger-Striped D.

  • Andrew | September 29, 2006 at 1:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”11106″][quote comment=”11103″]So are the Bucks now an affiliate with the Minnesota Wild? That color combo is awfully close.[/quote]

    No, the Bucks just went back to their original colors (worn until the mid-80s) which the Wild had appropriated.[/quote]

    I don’t think the Wild “appropriated” the Bucks colors, certainly not intentionally. I doubt a Minnesota team would intentionally lift colors from a Wisconsin-based team. I think that the Wild chose their colors to represent various aspects about the state of Minnesota; I’m not certain what each color means, though.

  • Minna H | September 29, 2006 at 1:06 pm |

    Paul, great interview, but let it be known that I am one of two people who liked the Admirals new logo and said so on this very board.

  • Miguel | September 29, 2006 at 1:21 pm |

    Is there really a team out there called the “Bad Gas”?

  • Paul Lukas | September 29, 2006 at 1:23 pm |

    [quote comment=”11112″]Just so Paul isn’t the only one confessing guilty pleasures… [/quote]

    Just to clarify: I don’t consider the Jags’ uni to be a guilty pleasure. You’re the one who characterized it that way, Andy! I think the Jags’ design is a full-on straightforward pleasure, no guilt required.

  • Jonathon | September 29, 2006 at 1:36 pm |

    [quote comment=”11100″]A little college football here…why does Auburn refuse to match the stripes on their pants to their helmet and jersey?

    Link[/quote]

    as an auburn grad, i’ll stick up for our unis:

    the pant stripes have no space between them b/c of tradition. they’ve always been that way.

    http://dealbyauction...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    http://www.angelfire...

  • nastykjn | September 29, 2006 at 1:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”11047″]Just a couple of opinions on the new Bucks unis:

    I hate that shiny material on many of these basketball uniforms. To me it just looks cheap.

    I wish the Roads said, “Milwaukee” but I like it anyway.

    Something looks odd about the shorts seeming way bigger than the shirts. Especially on the guy on the right.

    I’m glad the old colors are back – Christmas not withstanding. [/quote]

    I just wonder what’s up with the “hourglass” look for the Bucks sidepanels. Take a look. Wide by the armpit, thin through the waist, wide by the knee.

    [quote comment=”11068″]In advance, sorry for the long post. Loved the radio interview. Just a couple of thoughts that occurred to me as I was listening…

    Did they say the Admirals’ practice facility is the Mullet Ice Center?

    Paul, the Jaguars? Wow… I had no idea. Another of what I would call your guilty pleasures, though, has got to be the original Tampa Bay Devil Rays unis. I’ve seen you hype those jerseys a couple times now, and I just don’t get it, what with the rainbow lettering and all…

    I suppose since we’re all similarly obsessed, I can finally admit this in public. When I was a kid, every summer I used to sit down and draw and color every team logo in MLB and decorate my room with them. Think I did it once with the NFL, too, but I was pretty good with the baseball logos. Once a friend of mine had me draw him up a big (like 3′ x 3′) Blue Jays logo, and later in life that same drawing ended up in the background of a picture of the governor (I grew up in Alaska) in our local newspaper. Long story.[/quote]

    Anchorage Service High School, class of ’97.

  • Jersey Mark | September 29, 2006 at 1:37 pm |

    The Pedro Karma has cetainly caught up to him.

    Today’s Newark Star-Ledger has a shot of Pedro wearing the black uni AND he has the pajama pant look. To top it off, he has the bottom of the pant ripped and ticked onto the bottom of the cleat! ugh!

  • Pedro | September 29, 2006 at 1:38 pm |

    Yeah the Jaguars uniforms (minus the black pants) are amont the best in the NFL, along with the good old Silver and Black. NO GUILT REQUIRED. Now if anyone likes the Vikings uniforms, they need all the quilt they can get…Oh by the way did anyone ever notice that when the Jaguars came into the league all the players’ shoulder pads had the same jaguar logo thats on the Jaguars “sleeves”. You could only notice when the jersey got pulled up over the pads. Sorry could not find pics.

  • redemske | September 29, 2006 at 1:38 pm |
  • Kramer | September 29, 2006 at 1:48 pm |
  • Andy Head | September 29, 2006 at 1:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”11120″]Just to clarify: I don’t consider the Jags’ uni to be a guilty pleasure. You’re the one who characterized it that way, Andy![/quote]

    Hey, I didn’t mean to ruffle any feathers (although I do disagree with your opinion of those particular uniforms). I only used that term because the interviewer on the radio show did.

    [quote comment=”11123″]Anchorage Service High School, class of ’97.[/quote]

    Mt. Edgecumbe High School in Sitka, class of ’98.

  • Robert | September 29, 2006 at 1:59 pm |
  • Chris | September 29, 2006 at 2:01 pm |

    [quote comment=”11074″]a. i’ll sign the “i hate the shiny fabric on pro sports uniforms” petition. the “dazzle” or “shimmer” style, or how it has been referred to by manufacturers is fine to wear on your summer league teams at the playgrounds, but not as an nba franchise

    b. when it comes to white leather in baseball, what are we defining it as? any none black or dark brown leather on gloves? i’m convinced i own a pair of casual shoes that are that color, and they are definitely not white. when i hear the term “wearing the whites” i think of either a member of the us navy or naval academy in their dress whites, or rocking a pair of crispy new air force 1’s.

    c. every time i read something about the devils and their unis, i cant help but think of their number 1 fan who is there to “support the team”. david puddy. “nobody messes with the devils. nobody.” incidently although he rocked the white red and black marty brodeur jersey, he painted his face red and green…[/quote]

    The problem I always had with that episode is that Puddy said he had been a Devils fan since he was a little kid…when he was a little kid the Devils would have still been the Colorado Rockies…unless we are to believe Puddy is around 20-25 in the episode…which would be quite the stretch….

    would it kill writers to do a little research before writing an episode? Like the hockey episode in the Simpsons where the puck appears to croos about five different red lines on the way down the ice…..arg!!!

    I’m ok now…whew

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | September 29, 2006 at 2:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”11119″]Is there really a team out there called the “Bad Gas”?[/quote]

    i wouldnt be surprised if alot of those unknown teams were designs he did for teams in his fantasy baseball/football leagues.

  • Mark in Shiga | September 29, 2006 at 2:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”11094″]Nice to hear that Paul likes the Jags’ unis. As part of the 1% of America that roots for the Jags (according to Harris Interactive), I love the Jags’ unis. At first I disapproved of the change from traditional numbers. The 95-96 jersey was great.
    http://www.jaguars.c...

    I like the original Jaguars jersey more than the one they’ve got now, but the problem was that the triple-layered lettering extended to the player surnames above the numbers and it looked ridiculous.

    If they’d kept the three-layer block numbers but made the names a single layer of white (home) or black (road), they would have looked perfect. The Devil Rays do this too and the names are much more readable than they would be if they also had three layers.

  • norb | September 29, 2006 at 2:15 pm |

    As a Bucks half-season ticket holder (the “purple plan” — i refuse to acknowledge that it has a new name now), i opted to pass on going to the “grand unveiling” of the new Bucks unis. Obviously, as a vocal proponent of purple, it would have both broken my heart AND been an egregious breach of decorum to do so. That said, i’ve always felt that the traditional dark green jerseys w/red and white trim were actually pretty cool (had the return to green and red not come at the expense of my favorite color, i’d likely be all for it), so, the loss of purple notwithstanding, i was cautiously optimistic about the whole affair. Unfortunately, let me levy a big BAH, HUMBUG on the new unis — i was hoping for either a modernized version of the late 70’s jersey (red trim w/the green side bars) (and, when i say “modernized,” i mean a font similar to what the Mavs and Pistons currently use), or else just a flat-out return to 1971. Instead, i got this stupid “BUCKS” lettering that looks like the things my grandma used to put around her shrubs to keep the rabbits out, some kinda wet green garbage bag look, and Cardinals/Vikings/af2 style curvy weird side crap on the away jerseys, and the home jerseys just look like puke. Red Thursday is a sad, sad day for athletic aesthetics.

  • E | September 29, 2006 at 2:17 pm |

    Those uniform redesigns are all horrible. Just because a guy knows how to use a few computer programs, doesn’t mean he is able to design unis. I don’t want every uni, logo etc to look “modern” and “bold” and “graphic” with thick outlines and comic book lettering and. The best designs are unique to that team and it’s history. These look like they came from a logo factory.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | September 29, 2006 at 2:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”11137″]As a Bucks half-season ticket holder (the “purple plan” — i refuse to acknowledge that it has a new name now), i opted to pass on going to the “grand unveiling” of the new Bucks unis. Obviously, as a vocal proponent of purple, it would have both broken my heart AND been an egregious breach of decorum to do so. That said, i’ve always felt that the traditional dark green jerseys w/red and white trim were actually pretty cool (had the return to green and red not come at the expense of my favorite color, i’d likely be all for it), so, the loss of purple notwithstanding, i was cautiously optimistic about the whole affair. Unfortunately, let me levy a big BAH, HUMBUG on the new unis — i was hoping for either a modernized version of the late 70’s jersey (red trim w/the green side bars) (and, when i say “modernized,” i mean a font similar to what the Mavs and Pistons currently use), or else just a flat-out return to 1971. Instead, i got this stupid “BUCKS” lettering that looks like the things my grandma used to put around her shrubs to keep the rabbits out, some kinda wet green garbage bag look, and Cardinals/Vikings/af2 style curvy weird side crap on the away jerseys, and the home jerseys just look like puke. Red Thursday is a sad, sad day for athletic aesthetics.[/quote]

    hey norb,
    is there a site where i can contact you? i have some questions about your punk music interest and knowledge…

  • Jim | September 29, 2006 at 2:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”11138″]Those uniform redesigns are all horrible. Just because a guy knows how to use a few computer programs, doesn’t mean he is able to design unis. I don’t want every uni, logo etc to look “modern” and “bold” and “graphic” with thick outlines and comic book lettering and. The best designs are unique to that team and it’s history. These look like they came from a logo factory.[/quote]

    I know the artist. He was still in high school when he made these. I admire the fact he is willing to think outside the box when it comes to his concepts. I couldn’t do any of this stuff when I was in high school, or even years after that when I was learning to use the design software.

    Unfortunately, when you see all of his concepts together, they are all very similar in style, with either pointed serif fonts or overuse of piping. It’s his fingerprint, but ultimately what kept these from progressing any further than they did.

  • Kramer | September 29, 2006 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”11132″][quote comment=”11130″]

    MUCH Better[/quote]

    Oof, are you sure about that? They look equally as bad to me. Poor Vikes.[/quote]

    yes im sure i’d rather have the gold to break up the raging cartoon dinosaur look. (i.e. barney and dino)

  • a arauz | September 29, 2006 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”11116″]As far as those MLB concept uniforms, I’m not too fond of the Tigers concept. He didn’t go as overboard with those as he did with some others, but there’s not a whole lot of Olde English D left in them. Even then, it’s a New Tiger-Striped D.[/quote]
    This Tigers concept look very Japanese league, no?

  • a arauz | September 29, 2006 at 2:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”11119″]Is there really a team out there called the “Bad Gas”?[/quote]

    Yeah, any franchise that plays in the New Jersey Meadowlands.

  • mike | September 29, 2006 at 2:32 pm |

    lots of uni fun last night in the mets braves game

    andruw appears to be the only brave that wears the cool flow helmet in the lineup last night

    the back up ctacher for the braves, Pena, wears to different color batting gloves

    and it appears that jose reyes was wearing an NL East Champs 3/4 sleeve tee under his jersey last night, as you could see part of it while he was batting

  • Patrick | September 29, 2006 at 2:42 pm |

    The Jags teal home uni’s are decent, but I can’t stand the white jersey/black pants combo because said teal becomes invisible and it looks like they are black with a little gold trim. If you’re going to do the “All Teal Stadium” bit, have the balls to include teal in both uniform sets.

  • Miguel | September 29, 2006 at 2:46 pm |

    [quote comment=”11138″]Those uniform redesigns are all horrible. Just because a guy knows how to use a few computer programs, doesn’t mean he is able to design unis. I don’t want every uni, logo etc to look “modern” and “bold” and “graphic” with thick outlines and comic book lettering and. The best designs are unique to that team and it’s history. These look like they came from a logo factory.[/quote]

    Can we just leave the dude alone? At least he’s trying…

    Also, he was kind enough to share his whole photobucket album including a pic of his girl’s toe.

  • John | September 29, 2006 at 2:49 pm |

    [quote comment=”11117″][quote comment=”11106″][quote comment=”11103″]So are the Bucks now an affiliate with the Minnesota Wild? That color combo is awfully close.[/quote]

    No, the Bucks just went back to their original colors (worn until the mid-80s) which the Wild had appropriated.[/quote]

    I don’t think the Wild “appropriated” the Bucks colors, certainly not intentionally. I doubt a Minnesota team would intentionally lift colors from a Wisconsin-based team. I think that the Wild chose their colors to represent various aspects about the state of Minnesota; I’m not certain what each color means, though.[/quote]

    I guess I should have put “appropriated” in quotes as I wasn’t knocking the Wild’s look – I like their use of the colors. I was just having a “hey you kids get off my lawn” moment as someone who fondly remembers the green/red Bucks unis of the late 70s norb refers to in post #76 and was unsure if the orignal poster (Kim) remembered they were the Bucks colors long before the Wild was in existance.

  • Chad | September 29, 2006 at 3:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”11147″]The Jags teal home uni’s are decent, but I can’t stand the white jersey/black pants combo because said teal becomes invisible and it looks like they are black with a little gold trim. If you’re going to do the “All Teal Stadium” bit, have the balls to include teal in both uniform sets.[/quote]

    I actually like this combo the best(I think there is a tiny bit of the turqoise were the NFL logo is on the jersey yoke). Since the black and gold are colors you might actually see on a jaguar. If you know of a turquoise jaguar let me know. I don’t mind the turquise jersey’s though (much better than the vikings, titans, bengals, lions with the black trim, broncos, and bills) I just like the white better

  • Ian K | September 29, 2006 at 3:29 pm |
  • Burrill | September 29, 2006 at 3:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”11143″][quote comment=”11116″]As far as those MLB concept uniforms, I’m not too fond of the Tigers concept. He didn’t go as overboard with those as he did with some others, but there’s not a whole lot of Olde English D left in them. Even then, it’s a New Tiger-Striped D.[/quote]
    This Tigers concept look very Japanese league, no?[/quote]

    You know, I didn’t think about that initially, but you’re right.

  • Chad | September 29, 2006 at 3:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”11148″][quote comment=”11138″]Those uniform redesigns are all horrible. Just because a guy knows how to use a few computer programs, doesn’t mean he is able to design unis. I don’t want every uni, logo etc to look “modern” and “bold” and “graphic” with thick outlines and comic book lettering and. The best designs are unique to that team and it’s history. These look like they came from a logo factory.[/quote]

    Can we just leave the dude alone? At least he’s trying…

    Also, he was kind enough to share his whole photobucket album including a pic of his girl’s toe.[/quote]

    This has nothing to do with anything but did anyone notice that of all the pictures that guy took of himself 99% of them are of the left side of his face

  • Steven | September 29, 2006 at 3:38 pm |

    Sorry no links but the jersey redesign check out the Rockies much better then they have now. (Don’t take much) and some teams you don’t mess with Tigers, Cubs, Dodgers etc. Cincinnati is kida pushing being let alone like the logo but the Cincy redesgin is ugly!

  • Dan | September 29, 2006 at 3:41 pm |

    Uniform design is a very difficult thing, I give the guy credit for making them. The non-real teams are great, he is just a forward thinking person not to say that the old stuff isnt great but this style has its place too.

  • ESS | September 29, 2006 at 3:44 pm |

    [quote comment=”11148″][quote comment=”11138″]Those uniform redesigns are all horrible. Just because a guy knows how to use a few computer programs, doesn’t mean he is able to design unis. I don’t want every uni, logo etc to look “modern” and “bold” and “graphic” with thick outlines and comic book lettering and. The best designs are unique to that team and it’s history. These look like they came from a logo factory.[/quote]

    Can we just leave the dude alone? At least he’s trying…

    Also, he was kind enough to share his whole photobucket album including a pic of his girl’s toe.[/quote]

    Possibly exgirl now…

    I used to do this kind of stuff with the paint feature on my old first generation Mac. His looks a lot better than the stuff I came up with.

    Interesting stuff. Hope a lot of it doesn’t ever happen, but fun to look at.

  • ESS | September 29, 2006 at 3:49 pm |

    After looking at the redesigns, I’m sad to see McNabb going to the Missouri Mules. I hope they get him somebody to throw to.

  • ESS | September 29, 2006 at 3:53 pm |

    I take back all the nice things I said. This redesign guy is nuts!! If anyone at my alma mater’s athletic department thinks this is a good idea I will probably go on a kill-crazy rampage!

  • Forrest | September 29, 2006 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”11155″]Sorry no links but the jersey redesign check out the Rockies much better then they have now. (Don’t take much)….[/quote]

    I don’t think so. They’re worse, if that’s even possible.

    And this…this….NO! KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

    And this one made me break things. Indeed.

  • Tom | September 29, 2006 at 4:00 pm |

    [quote comment=”11110″][quote comment=”11099″]although he did have the dbacks in brick red, sand and black last year in his concept…
    http://smg.photobuck...

    I think this and the Orioles concept are fun to look at as long as they never, ever go into actual production.[/quote]

    Well, it’s probably counter-productive to comment on these designs when they will obviously never see the light of day, but I will say this: Baltimore has to go back to putting “Baltimore” on the away jersey.

    *Also, bring back the cartoon bird hat. (no two-tone hat though, preferable a solid black).
    It’s the oriole bird, who’s wearing the cap with the oriole bird, who presumably is wearning a cap with the oriole bird, and so on into infinity.

  • Pat | September 29, 2006 at 4:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”11050″]speaking of xmas… bring this back![/quote]
    AMEN to that!!

  • ESS | September 29, 2006 at 4:09 pm |

    A lot of those designs look like contest entries/winners.

    All in all pretty cool stuff. Nice to see some imagination applied. Weird seeing mashups of a city’s NFL team with the same city’s NBA team. Kinda cool…

  • a arauz | September 29, 2006 at 4:16 pm |

    [quote comment=”11160″]I take back all the nice things I said. This redesign guy is nuts!! If anyone at my alma mater’s athletic department thinks this is a good idea I will probably go on a kill-crazy rampage![/quote]
    C’mon, what can the Blue Chickens be upset about??? (He says as his school’s mascot is an Orange, and not even a navel orange at that).

  • a arauz | September 29, 2006 at 4:19 pm |

    [quote comment=”11162″][quote comment=”11155″]Sorry no links but the jersey redesign check out the Rockies much better then they have now. (Don’t take much)….[/quote]

    I don’t think so. They’re worse, if that’s even possible.

    And this…this….NO! KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

    And this one made me break things. Indeed.[/quote]

    They can’t just steal the Chargers’ look like that !?!? This guy needs to be stopped before he runs amok!

  • JL | September 29, 2006 at 4:21 pm |

    definite improvement for the Bucks, as far as the uniforms (logo issues have already been discussed here), but I’m not sure if they’re really as shiny as they look in that picture. Check here. David Noel is not looking quite as shiny.

  • Jon in SLC | September 29, 2006 at 4:22 pm |

    I give the kid props for creativity and effort. His designs are a bit cookie cutter, and not something I’d like to see my teams wearing. But I do like that he has put his creativity to the fine art of uniforms vs. say import cars or something. To me it seems he’s lacking the history and tradition behind the clubs, and that is a large part of who they are. Overall, they were fun to look at and they get you thinking and that’s great!

  • Eric | September 29, 2006 at 4:38 pm |

    I’d love to see a recurrence of a trademark Bucks uni memory — two players with the same last name a la “Marques Johnson” and “Mickey Johnson.”

    Might I also add how great it is to live in a world where how that was handled would generate instantly viewable comment from like-minded people all over the world?

  • ESS | September 29, 2006 at 4:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”11166″][quote comment=”11160″]I take back all the nice things I said. This redesign guy is nuts!! If anyone at my alma mater’s athletic department thinks this is a good idea I will probably go on a kill-crazy rampage![/quote]
    C’mon, what can the Blue Chickens be upset about??? (He says as his school’s mascot is an Orange, and not even a navel orange at that).[/quote]
    Begin Canned Defense of UD’s Mascot
    The Delaware Regiment raised during the Revolutionary war fought with great valor and distinguished itself as one of the bravest fighting units in the Continental Army. Their mascot was an actual Delaware Blue Hen, know for its fighting skills (and skills in magic), and hence the unit became known as the “Fightin Blue Hens.”

    End Canned Defense of UD’s Mascot
    Actually the real Delaware Blue Hen does have a bluish tint to it’s feathers. UD maintains a breeding stock to preserve this type of bird. And the old Fightin’ Blue Hen Mascot was a billion times better than the current one.
    On the plus side I get to tailgate all day tomorrow in Newark, DE. On the minus side, they’re playing New Hampshire.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | September 29, 2006 at 4:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”11169″]I give the kid props for creativity and effort. His designs are a bit cookie cutter, and not something I’d like to see my teams wearing. But I do like that he has put his creativity to the fine art of uniforms vs. say import cars or something. To me it seems he’s lacking the history and tradition behind the clubs, and that is a large part of who they are. Overall, they were fun to look at and they get you thinking and that’s great![/quote]

    agreed. i applaud his efforts just to take the time to do it! i know how long it took me to review all of them, let alone for him to design them. and hey, we all looked at his WHOLE album so they couldnt be that bad!

    as a nike guy, when i was growing up i had a huge portfolio of nike shoe designs, of course with no computer aid so they were all freehand.

    this guy took a lot of license and some were better than others.

    his atlanta hawks templates were nice i thought. and i dont mind the rockies design. great effort!

    …oh, and, nice toe too.

  • nastykjn | September 29, 2006 at 4:52 pm |

    So I have to give the guy lots of credit for the designs. I can’t even draw stick folks. However, doesn’t it seem that this looks an awful lot like this? Kind of interesting seeing as how this Diamondbacks logo is “new” and it would seem that his Wizards design has been there for a bit.

  • Buckeye Mike | September 29, 2006 at 4:56 pm |

    Ok, on that one kid’s logo page, i give him all kinds of props for doing that. Some of his stuff isn’t really that bad. I don’t care for the whole O’s things, but some parts of it are ok, and the “new” texas logo looks neat, tough, i like it. I didn’t look real close, so I hope I don’t find his attack on OSU, that would not be good.

    But I have to ask, What the HELL is this Browns logo supposed to be? and how come no one has pointed out the LOGO CREEP? Look at the Browns one, and like this one for the redskins. He has swooshes all over the place. I’ll assume that he did it to all the NFL ones(I’m too lazy to look right now), but then when he does ones for one of the Nike U’s, Miami, he leaves it out. I mean, I know it says 2004, But didn’t RBK have the NFL then? and I don’t think the Browns ever used Nike. Overall, I still give him all kinds of props for the awesome thinking.

  • Pat | September 29, 2006 at 4:59 pm |

    [quote comment=”11112″]Just so Paul isn’t the only one confessing guilty pleasures… I love the Kansas City Royals uniforms. No, not the old baby blues (which I know some people really like), but what they wear today. The blue alts, the road greys… can’t get enough. But this is the only place I’ll admit it.[/quote]
    Your’e not alone on this one. That Royals blue alt is among my top 5 MLB favorites. I really dig team unifoms that employ only one color plus white. I think it gives the teams a classy traditional look. Look at the Toronto Maple Leafs, the Detroit Red Wings, the Detroit Tigers, and even the hated Yankees. All classic looks. And props to the Royals for abandoning the black trim on those babies (are you watching NYM?) So, I see no shame in admiring this shirt. It beats almost any lavish 4-color scheme a team could concoct. Keep it simple, Royals! Now, just bring back the baby blue on occasion and we’ll all be satisfied!

  • Craig | September 29, 2006 at 5:02 pm |

    [quote comment=”11112″]Just so Paul isn’t the only one confessing guilty pleasures… I love the Kansas City Royals uniforms. No, not the old baby blues (which I know some people really like), but what they wear today. The blue alts, the road greys… can’t get enough. But this is the only place I’ll admit it.[/quote]

    Are those really guilty pleasures? Well if they are, then I’m with you. KC is one of the few MLB teams that can get away with wearing a solid blue jersey and not look like clowns.

    Also, I’ll throw my support being the teal posse. The Jags’ uniform is easily one of the best new designs in the league, way better than their expansion cousins. I prefer the teal jersey over the white pants myself.

  • Miguel | September 29, 2006 at 5:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”11177″]

    But I have to ask, What the HELL is this Browns logo supposed to be?[/quote]

    It looks like a bulldog that swallowed a football.

    I found more of the dude’s designs. Yes, I know I’m a loser.

  • Matthew | September 29, 2006 at 5:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”11138″]Those uniform redesigns are all horrible. Just because a guy knows how to use a few computer programs, doesn’t mean he is able to design unis. I don’t want every uni, logo etc to look “modern” and “bold” and “graphic” with thick outlines and comic book lettering and. The best designs are unique to that team and it’s history. These look like they came from a logo factory.[/quote]

  • Matthew | September 29, 2006 at 5:11 pm |

    Sorry about the above post with only the quote, this comptuer is acting up.

    Could not agree more with E. These are all the same design theme which are interesting so long, as todd krevanchi said earlier, they are NEVER actually produced.

    I’m not even a Cubs or a Dodgers fan, but I think it is sacrilege to consider any but the smallest change to some of the most classic designs the game has ever seen.

  • Jon in SLC | September 29, 2006 at 5:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”11141″][quote comment=”11138″]Those uniform redesigns are all horrible. Just because a guy knows how to use a few computer programs, doesn’t mean he is able to design unis. I don’t want every uni, logo etc to look “modern” and “bold” and “graphic” with thick outlines and comic book lettering and. The best designs are unique to that team and it’s history. These look like they came from a logo factory.[/quote]

    I know the artist. He was still in high school when he made these. I admire the fact he is willing to think outside the box when it comes to his concepts. I couldn’t do any of this stuff when I was in high school, or even years after that when I was learning to use the design software.

    Unfortunately, when you see all of his concepts together, they are all very similar in style, with either pointed serif fonts or overuse of piping. It’s his fingerprint, but ultimately what kept these from progressing any further than they did.[/quote]

    Jim – What’s this guys name? And does he know his design are getting discussed here?

  • Forrest | September 29, 2006 at 5:32 pm |

    Well, we can give him this one as a plus. I think it’s awesome.

  • Marc M. | September 29, 2006 at 5:36 pm |

    Just curious if they are like minded people out there. I think the best redesign of the NBA uniform would have to include reducing the length of the shorts. Players are wearing them way to baggy to where they look clownish.

    Comments?

  • TX Ken | September 29, 2006 at 5:37 pm |

    I hope this metallic-fabric-in-the-NBA “fad” doesn’t last much longer… What do they think this is, the future?!

    Dear NBA, y’all look ridiculous!

  • Matthew | September 29, 2006 at 5:38 pm |

    I take back some of what I said as the Anaheim Ducks design isn’t half bad, ESPECIALLY considering what they came up with this year.

    http://s17.photobuck...

    I guess the only two things that really bother me about these redesigns is that he would dare even think about changing teams like the Dodgers, Cubs, Tigers, etc. And the second thing is that each of these just uses too much heavy use of color and font; too many bold lines. The designs are too heavy and clunky. It’s like something you’d see on a videogame or anime or something like that.

  • Matthew | September 29, 2006 at 5:40 pm |

    And please excuse my poor grammar as I was not smart enough to look at my post before I clicked the ‘Say it’ button.

  • Chuck Ryals | September 29, 2006 at 6:05 pm |

    [quote comment=”11100″]A little college football here…why does Auburn refuse to match the stripes on their pants to their helmet and jersey?

    Link[/quote]

    Also, why doesn’t Iowa get rid of those awful Steeler replicas and get their own identity?

  • Timmy B | September 29, 2006 at 6:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”11050″]speaking of xmas… bring this back![/quote]

    I agree!! I see those jerseys and I see Chico Resch in goal and the Devils on the short end of 11-3 scores.

    Although black and red go well together, I never liked the Devs change to black. I always felt they were just trending. There were other things they could’ve done than just dropping green for black and dulling down the red.. And now after seeing the black for many years, their jerseys just look bland now. Maybe if they made that red a little brighter it would pep things up a bit.

  • nastykjn | September 29, 2006 at 6:22 pm |

    I say give the guy a break. Just like concept cars these probably won’t get made but in 20 years or so things similar to those unis may very well be what we see. The way everyone is talking it’s like the going consensus is that everyone should be wearing this.

    I agree the Cubs’ look is classic but let’s be honest, they ain’t wearing these anymore.

    Say it with me now, “Change can be a good thing.

  • mallrat | September 29, 2006 at 6:34 pm |

    Chad says
    This has nothing to do with anything but did anyone notice that of all the pictures that guy took of himself 99% of them are of the left side of his face[/quote]

    He’s a lot like Paris Hilton in that regard.

  • Minna H | September 29, 2006 at 6:35 pm |

    I’m not being harsh on the kid because I’m against change; I’m being harsh because I don’t like his designs. Most of them blend into each other and are blah for the most part. I don’t even like the Vikes’ prototype because of the hideous mustard-brown ‘gold’ accents.

    I don’t think most of his designs—and I mostly looked at the baseball ones—are very creative. Changing for the sake of change is just as bad as refusing to change at all.

  • CubsFanBudMan | September 29, 2006 at 6:44 pm |

    I remember when AAO was doing this project on Chris Creamer’s board. He took on the task of redesigning every team, and I tip my cap to him for that. As a whole, yes, many have similar design trademarks of his. But give one team one of his designs and I think it could work. Not saying I’d want it to be the Cubs, but I honestly like the fact that he took even the traditional teams in a bold new direction. (And why are the Cubs completely untouchable — they’ve won nothing in these or any of the versions since 1945… or 1908 to be specific.) It’s just a concept, folks. It’s not like one day MLB is going to say — “everyone change to these now.” Well, maybe they would — I forgot Turn Ahead the Clock day. He did a nice job with them.

  • Mike | September 29, 2006 at 6:48 pm |

    I love some of the logos that guy came up with, (stuff you can put on a hat or in the middle of a football field for example) but the entire uniform designs are not too hot for a lot of them.

    And I never realized how retared looking baseball uniforms are with side paneling and Denver Brocno-esque stripes on pants are until I saw the Orioles design. But for whatever reason, I like them on NFL teams.

  • Andy from KC | September 29, 2006 at 6:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”11178″][quote comment=”11112″]Just so Paul isn’t the only one confessing guilty pleasures… I love the Kansas City Royals uniforms. No, not the old baby blues (which I know some people really like), but what they wear today. The blue alts, the road greys… can’t get enough. But this is the only place I’ll admit it.[/quote]
    Your’e not alone on this one. That Royals blue alt is among my top 5 MLB favorites. I really dig team unifoms that employ only one color plus white. I think it gives the teams a classy traditional look. Look at the Toronto Maple Leafs, the Detroit Red Wings, the Detroit Tigers, and even the hated Yankees. All classic looks. And props to the Royals for abandoning the black trim on those babies (are you watching NYM?) So, I see no shame in admiring this shirt. It beats almost any lavish 4-color scheme a team could concoct. Keep it simple, Royals! Now, just bring back the baby blue on occasion and we’ll all be satisfied![/quote]

    Glad to see my favorite team get some props! I was the happiest guy when the Royals unveiled their new threads this spring. The only thing more hideous than the sleeveless abortions they wore on the the road the last few years was their style of play. And I never dug this logo; I’m glad it’s gone (along with the stupid black drop-shadow trim). I’ve even come around on the new(ish) KC shield logo; I think it works better than the old KCR logo . Now, if we just had the powder blues to wear as alternates, we’d be all set!

  • Andy from KC | September 29, 2006 at 6:56 pm |

    OK, so the last 3 links on my post (#127) didn’t work. I still think you’ll get the gist.

  • Jeff E. | September 29, 2006 at 7:09 pm |

    Is it me, or does the tertiary logo seem a little unusual?
    Not to mention the team name of “Chimps”

  • mallrat | September 29, 2006 at 7:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”11204″]Is it me, or does the tertiary logo seem a little unusual?
    Not to mention the team name of “Chimps”[/quote]

    If I was a team owner I don’t think I would want such a phallic symbol for my logo… Unless it was like a chippendales softball team or something

  • nastykjn | September 29, 2006 at 8:31 pm |

    I was just watching the Marlins/Phillies game at lunch. Cabrera and Willingham are both wearing personalized swooshified wristbands and Jaime Moyer seems to be having some alignment problems with the Liberty Bell Stirups.

  • Kevin McGuire | September 29, 2006 at 9:20 pm |

    one of the USF players had their back name plate starting to come off. i can’t do screen grabs but it was after USF intercepted Rutgers with just over 3 mins to go in the first half

  • Tape | September 29, 2006 at 9:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”11167″]
    They can’t just steal the Chargers’ look like that !?!? This guy needs to be stopped before he runs amok![/quote]

    I think he was probably shooting for the Denver Nuggets. What with the Denver Broncos playing in Denver, and the colors being the Nuggets’ colors and definitely not the Chargers’.

    Also, I’m very happy to see so many people agreeing that the Devils were better in red and green than red and black. I thought no one liked the red and green! pleaseant surprise there.

  • SpartyCuse | September 29, 2006 at 10:31 pm |

    Anybody able to get a screen grab from the So Fla/Rutgers game on ESPN2? At the end of the 3rd quarter, they showed a So FLA cheerleader. On her cheerleader outfit/uniform, it had a FedEx Orange Bowl patch. I have no idea why they would have that on there. USF has never played in that bowl, and is probably not going to this year.

  • Chad | September 29, 2006 at 11:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”11206″]I was just watching the Marlins/Phillies game at lunch. Cabrera and Willingham are both wearing personalized swooshified wristbands and Jaime Moyer seems to be having some alignment problems with the Liberty Bell Stirups.[/quote]

    at lunch? do you live in hawaii?

  • Brinke Guthrie | September 30, 2006 at 12:09 am |

    [quote comment=”11177″]Ok, on that one kid’s logo page, i give him all kinds of props for doing that. Some of his stuff isn’t really that bad. I don’t care for the whole O’s things, but some parts of it are ok, and the “new” texas logo looks neat, tough, i like it. I didn’t look real close, so I hope I don’t find his attack on OSU, that would not be good.

    But I have to ask, What the HELL is this Browns logo supposed to be? and how come no one has pointed out the LOGO CREEP? Look at the Browns one, and like this one for the redskins. He has swooshes all over the place. I’ll assume that he did it to all the NFL ones(I’m too lazy to look right now), but then when he does ones for one of the Nike U’s, Miami, he leaves it out. I mean, I know it says 2004, But didn’t RBK have the NFL then? and I don’t think the Browns ever used Nike. Overall, I still give him all kinds of props for the awesome thinking.[/quote]

    I think..THINK..it’s a bulldog? Or a vampire monster. One of those.

  • Brinke Guthrie | September 30, 2006 at 12:19 am |

    That UC Bearcats concept scares me. It looks like a Stephen King novel.

    Stop the madness.

    =bg=
    UC Class of 84/College Conservatory of Music

  • Jim | September 30, 2006 at 12:27 am |

    [quote comment=”11185″]Jim – What’s this guys name? And does he know his design are getting discussed here?[/quote]

    His name is Ian. He used to visit the CCSLC frequently, but hasn’t stopped by much in the last few months since he went back to school. I don’t have his email address, so I don’t know if he’s aware that his stuff is being discussed.

    In a way, it feels like we’ve been prying into his diary. I know photobucket accounts are public, but it seems weird that everyone is just randomly linking through his portfolio and commenting on it, especially with him most likely unaware of it.

    As CubsFanBudMan mentioned, these were done as part of a redesign project Ian was working on. And they’re probably not most people’s cup of tea, but he challenged himself to come up with some unique ideas.

  • Sam | September 30, 2006 at 1:26 am |

    [quote comment=”11195″][quote comment=”11050″]speaking of xmas… bring this back![/quote]

    I agree!! I see those jerseys and I see Chico Resch in goal and the Devils on the short end of 11-3 scores.

    Although black and red go well together, I never liked the Devs change to black. I always felt they were just trending. There were other things they could’ve done than just dropping green for black and dulling down the red.. And now after seeing the black for many years, their jerseys just look bland now. Maybe if they made that red a little brighter it would pep things up a bit.[/quote]

    The Devils need a uniform overhaul. Their logo is god-awful. Although I disagree that they were simply trending when they went with the black. When I think of devils, I always associate them with red and black.

  • Brian from Short Island | September 30, 2006 at 1:34 am |

    [quote comment=”11205″][quote comment=”11204″]Is it me, or does the tertiary logo seem a little unusual?
    Not to mention the team name of “Chimps”[/quote]

    If I was a team owner I don’t think I would want such a phallic symbol for my logo… Unless it was like a chippendales softball team or something[/quote]
    …or unless you own the Arizona Diamondbacks.

  • nastykjn | September 30, 2006 at 2:10 am |

    [quote comment=”11213″][quote comment=”11206″]I was just watching the Marlins/Phillies game at lunch. Cabrera and Willingham are both wearing personalized swooshified wristbands and Jaime Moyer seems to be having some alignment problems with the Liberty Bell Stirups.[/quote]

    at lunch? do you live in hawaii?[/quote]

    Used to. It’s Alaska now.

  • Kelli | September 30, 2006 at 2:59 am |

    [quote comment=”11162″]And this…this….NO! KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN![/quote]

    If the Longhorns did this I would never watch them again. The most disturbing part, other than all those crazy lines all over everything, is that the longhorn has suddenly lost his horns! ACK!

  • Al | September 30, 2006 at 12:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”11172″][quote comment=”11166″][quote comment=”11160″]I take back all the nice things I said. This redesign guy is nuts!! If anyone at my alma mater’s athletic department thinks this is a good idea I will probably go on a kill-crazy rampage![/quote]
    C’mon, what can the Blue Chickens be upset about??? (He says as his school’s mascot is an Orange, and not even a navel orange at that).[/quote]
    Begin Canned Defense of UD’s Mascot
    The Delaware Regiment raised during the Revolutionary war fought with great valor and distinguished itself as one of the bravest fighting units in the Continental Army. Their mascot was an actual Delaware Blue Hen, know for its fighting skills (and skills in magic), and hence the unit became known as the “Fightin Blue Hens.”

    End Canned Defense of UD’s Mascot
    Actually the real Delaware Blue Hen does have a bluish tint to it’s feathers. UD maintains a breeding stock to preserve this type of bird. And the old Fightin’ Blue Hen Mascot was a billion times better than the current one.
    On the plus side I get to tailgate all day tomorrow in Newark, DE. On the minus side, they’re playing New Hampshire.[/quote]

    Thanks for this…. LOL. I quite enjoyed it, have a great day of tailgating.

  • norb | October 2, 2006 at 1:53 pm |

    Regarding the Minnesota Wild color scheme, i personally don’t believe that any Minnesota team would attempt to appeal to any Wisconsinite, ever, but it is worth noting that, as far as FSN North is concerned, Wisconsin (at least the northern part) is part of the Minnesota Wild broadcast area — Green Bay is 285 miles from St. Paul and the Wild and only 200 miles from Chicago and the Blackhawks, but we get Wild — not Blackhawks — games.