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Where Everyone’s Uni Number Is 57

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Halls of fame and sports museums are often the best places to see old uniforms, but they don’t always allow you to take photos. Fortunately, reader Chris Hilf had no such problems (or just ignored the rules) when he recently visited the Heinz History Center in Pittsburgh, which houses the Western Pennsylvania Sports Museum. Here are some of the shots he took and was generous enough to share:

Really old catcher’s gear. Compare that chest protector to these!

1939 Pirates jersey. Odd to see the Bucs not wearing black and gold, right? They didn’t adopt that color scheme until 1948. Also, note the centenial sleeve patch, which most MLB teams wore in 1939.

1950s Pittsburgh Hornets uniform. “I don’t know if you can tell,” writes Hilf, “but the shorts are satin!” Dig the sleeve patch, too.

1940s Hornets jersey. Judging by this photo and the previous two, the Hornets appear to have switched to black and gold around the same time the Pirates did.

Photo of Roberto Clemente and his kids. Start those kids wearing stirrups at an early age!

BBQ Update: It has been brought to my attention that yesterday’s announcement of a barbecue party in my back yard would’ve been a lot more useful if I’d mentioned that my back yard is in Brooklyn, New York. Sorry for the omission. Again, this rousing event will be on September 3rd, which is the Sunday of Labor Day weekend. If you want to attend, send an e-mail to unibbq at earthlink dot net. I’ll get back to you regarding address, time, etc. And since Pedro never cashed our check, the party’s beer budget is starting off at $78.66.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Now here’s a great item up for auction (with thanks to Todd Krevanchi). … Also wouldn’t mind adding a copy of this to the Uni Watch library. … Good article here about Fidel Castro’s Adidas logo creep. … The NFL requires players to have their jerseys tucked in. But Mike Murray notes that Orlando Huff of the Cardinals had his jersey cropped super-short over the weekend. … Justin Downey plays in the semi-pro Garden State Football League, which he says has “some of the nicest football unis out there — see for yourself.” So I did, and I still haven’t fully recovered. … Try to ignore the logo creep bonanza while checking out the weirdest hockey mask ever. The photo comes our way via Boris Shubinsky, who says the mask was designed by the goalie’s father, and that the design is currently being worn by only two or three netminders in the world. Bizarre. … Weird scene last night in Louisiana, where some of the Cowboys’ throwback jerseys included the “Cowboys” wordmark above the front uni numbers, and some didn’t, plus some players apparently didn’t even have the NFL Equipment logo patch at the base of the collar. … Jeremy Brahm isn’t the only one keeping an eye on Japanese baseball happening: Scott M.X. Turner (who designed the logo at the top of this page, don’tcha know) notes that the socks, tailoring, and white caps being sported by the winners of this year’s Koshien high-school tourney all look endearingly retro.

 

67 comments to Where Everyone’s Uni Number Is 57

  • Chris | August 22, 2006 at 8:41 am |

    I ignored the rules. It was a Sunday and there was no one there at all.

    The Pirates changes to black and gold in 1948. The red Hornets jersey was labeled as ‘1940s’ and the black and gold one ‘1950s’ (the museum doesn’t know where they’re from?), so you are correct in assuming they switched colors around the same time. The Penguins entered the league in the 67-68 season with blue and purple on white. This is from NHLUniforms.com, “On January 30, 1980, on the heels of world championships won by the Pirates and Steelers, the Penguins ditched their two-tone blue color scheme for black and gold, to match the colors of the city’s two title teams. The Boston Bruins protested, to no avail, claiming they had a monopoly on the black and gold color scheme”.
    The Steelers were black and gold from their inception in 1933, but did spend 1943 in green and white when they merged with the Eagles to form the Steagles due to lack of personnel because of WWII.

  • Brooks Reuter | August 22, 2006 at 8:50 am |

    The first link to the old catchers gear, isn’t catchers equpipment, it is umpire equipment. You can see an old cliker, ball bag, and plate brush in the lower left hand corner.

  • Rich | August 22, 2006 at 8:53 am |

    So what is that sleeve patch on the hornet’s jersey supposed to be? It certainly doesn’t look like a hornet.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | August 22, 2006 at 8:54 am |

    the ebay auction for the cubs game stirrups was reported to me by reader ian borkowski. it was included in an interview question for paul for his upcoming profiles interview. thanks ian and keep the questions coming…

  • Andrew | August 22, 2006 at 9:19 am |

    I may be wrong, but it looked like Cowboys TE Anthony Fasano had an accent over the “o” in his name in last night’s name. I don’t think I’ve ever seen his name rendered with an accent, so I thought that was weird.

  • Schafe | August 22, 2006 at 9:24 am |

    Great ‘Burgh stuff-
    Interesting subtle move by Willie Stargell in his early days that I always thought was very cool. In this picture, (hard to see, but trust me), on the flap of the old spikes he has his number (8), but instead of the numeral he has it written in the Roman Numeral version “VIII”.
    Link Name

  • Joe Hilseberg | August 22, 2006 at 9:35 am |

    Logo Creep Alert!

    Let’s just hope we don’t start seeing the asymmetrical sleeves on the docs!

  • Teebz | August 22, 2006 at 9:59 am |

    The goalie mask has been quite a source of innovation over the past 60 years. The current design, worn by almost all the goalies in the NHL, has been widely accepted as being the best due to the reduction of the cage bars, giving the goalie the most unobstructed view of the ice in front of him. However, there still are some minor design “flaws”. If a puck is shot hard enough, the puck can get stuck in the cage. See here with Ed Belfour:
    http://www.ottawasun...

    This goalie mask you have presented, Paul, looks like the goalie is wearing reading glasses. And the additional amount of caging across his face may obstruct his view a little more compared to the standard worn by the majority of goalies.

    Any word on who this netminder is and where he plays?

  • Kieran Kelly | August 22, 2006 at 10:01 am |

    Just a reminder that Jamie Moyer pitches for the Phillies tonight at Wrigley. We’ll see if he wears the Liberty Bell stirrups that the Phillies are supposed to wear. First base coach Marc Bombard wears them now and they look awesome. We’ll see if Moyer continues his trend of wearing stirrups.

  • Boris Shubinsky | August 22, 2006 at 10:08 am |

    [quote comment=”6234″]

    Any word on who this netminder is and where he plays?[/quote]

    The goaltender in the picture is Marco Streit. Last year he played with Rapperswil-Jona in the Swiss League. I would know, I sent the tip :)

  • Jersey Mark | August 22, 2006 at 10:21 am |

    Those are great throwback style jeseys on the HS team, lets hope to see more of this soon.
    Those Garden State football jerseys make me asshamed of my heritage.

  • Wooster Oh | August 22, 2006 at 10:22 am |

    [quote comment=”6234″]This goalie mask you have presented, Paul, looks like the goalie is wearing reading glasses. [/quote]

    Reminds me of this guy. I went to college with his son and we were in the same fraternity. We used to make him wear his Dad’s suits to formals.

  • N. | August 22, 2006 at 10:29 am |
  • Rick | August 22, 2006 at 10:42 am |

    [quote comment=”6229″]I may be wrong, but it looked like Cowboys TE Anthony Fasano had an accent over the “o” in his name in last night’s name. I don’t think I’ve ever seen his name rendered with an accent, so I thought that was weird.[/quote]

    Im good friends with 2 of this cousins (whose last name is also Fasano) Ill ask them.

  • Dan | August 22, 2006 at 10:44 am |

    What is going on with the new NFL referee jerseys? Whose bright idea was it to change the most basic and classic uniform out there?

  • See me at the Club | August 22, 2006 at 10:46 am |

    [quote comment=”6225″]I ignored the rules. It was a Sunday and there was no one there at all.

    The Pirates changes to black and gold in 1948. The red Hornets jersey was labeled as ‘1940s’ and the black and gold one ‘1950s’ (the museum doesn’t know where they’re from?), so you are correct in assuming they switched colors around the same time. The Penguins entered the league in the 67-68 season with blue and purple on white. This is from NHLUniforms.com, “On January 30, 1980, on the heels of world championships won by the Pirates and Steelers, the Penguins ditched their two-tone blue color scheme for black and gold, to match the colors of the city’s two title teams. The Boston Bruins protested, to no avail, claiming they had a monopoly on the black and gold color scheme”.
    The Steelers were black and gold from their inception in 1933, but did spend 1943 in green and white when they merged with the Eagles to form the Steagles due to lack of personnel because of WWII.[/quote]

    The Penguins original colors were baby blue on navy blue, not purple. Great color combo.

    The Hornet logo is actually a cartoon hornet face with a hockey helmet on.

    You have to like how all three major pro teams in the Burgh support black and gold…it is the city of champions.

  • Jill | August 22, 2006 at 11:01 am |

    [quote comment=”6231″]Logo Creep Alert!

    Let’s just hope we don’t start seeing the asymmetrical sleeves on the docs![/quote]

    I was watching this show a while ago and instantly thought if someone else were watching it a comment would make this blog. It is hard to tell from the screen grab but during the show I couldn’t figure what was going on with the swoosh, it didn’t look right. I figure either it is home-made, which is really disturbing or the Discovery Channel made him cover up the original logo. The second scenario doesn’t make much sense as I would figure if they are going to make him cover it, they would have a problem with the covering also being a swoosh. However, it also doesn’t make much sense that he would take the time to sew a Nike logo on his scrubs. Or maybe the original logo has problems being made sterile.

    I don’t even remember what the show was about, I was too preoccupied with the surgeons hat.

  • Brooks Reuter | August 22, 2006 at 12:07 pm |

    The “nike” hat looks like one of the bootleg wool hats you can buy at flea markets, and from street vendors in the city. Kind of like fake coach purses and things of that nature, they also make fake nike gear. However, you would think that a surgeon would be able to buy a real Nike hat and not some $5 knockoff.

  • Bill C | August 22, 2006 at 12:09 pm |

    I like striped socks as much as anyone BUT the picture “N” sent is way over the top. Now I’ve got this sudden urge for a cany cane.

  • Joe Hilseberg | August 22, 2006 at 12:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”6247″]The “nike” hat looks like one of the bootleg wool hats you can buy at flea markets, and from street vendors in the city. Kind of like fake coach purses and things of that nature, they also make fake nike gear. However, you would think that a surgeon would be able to buy a real Nike hat and not some $5 knockoff.[/quote]

    I’m pretty sure he had the hat on inside-out, and we are seeing the mess that is the back of the embroidery.

  • Kyle | August 22, 2006 at 12:19 pm |

    whoever designed the uniforms for that garden state football league should probably be shot. i’m going to assume i can find him in minneapolis, where i’m sure he is director of uniform design for a certain football team there….

    Oh, same goes for the candy-stripe softball sock guy. whatever happened to people with taste?

  • Andrew F | August 22, 2006 at 12:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”6238″]Those are great throwback style jeseys on the HS team, lets hope to see more of this soon.
    Those Garden State football jerseys make me asshamed of my heritage.[/quote]

    THAT is what makes you ashamed of being from Jersey???

    I could have sworn I saw that goalie mask somewhere before, but it turns out it was just here… http://namelyyours.n...

  • Miguel | August 22, 2006 at 12:37 pm |

    Mr. Lukas, I’m very impressed with your expansive knowledge of condiment history.

  • Riff | August 22, 2006 at 12:56 pm |

    Yesterday, SI.com had a photo gallery of images from the new Madden ’07. After looking them over, I have a BIG bone to pick with them. Brian Urlacher, Willis McGahee, Edgerin James, LaDanian Tomlinson, Larry Johnson, Terrell Owens, Jake Delhomme and Corey Dillon are all Nike athletes but are depicted in the game with Reebok shoes. Not cool. Now Reebok is buying out the rights to everything! Plus it was nice to see such accurate socks on the Lions and the new Vikes abominations. Also, Carson Palmer looks black and the ball seems to be a bit big.

  • Riff | August 22, 2006 at 1:04 pm |

    Last night during the Dodgers-Padres game, Brett Tomko came on in relief in the the 8th inning. While pitching, his jersey was shifting to his left revealing the swoosh on his Nike undershirt. I’m not sure if that’s the same shirt he was wearing, but that’s where the swoosh was. Sorry, no screen grab.

    I think it was Ricky Williams who was horse collared (tackled by the neck of the back of his shoulder pads) and he complained that he had his hair pulled. A couple years ago, I think. I’m pretty sure that was the reason the ruling was made.

  • AMS | August 22, 2006 at 1:07 pm |

    I’ve never been to the Western PA Sports Museum, but it looks pretty great. Was in Pgh this weekend, and didn’t stop by.

    I did see, though, that there’s a statue commemorating Franco Harris’ Immaculate Reception in the airport, and I was impressed to note that the uniform looks pretty right on. Can’t find a pic, but it brightened my day…

    A

  • AMS | August 22, 2006 at 1:09 pm |

    Ignore the other woman in the photo…check out the shoes and elbow pads, though…

    http://static.flickr...

  • Riff | August 22, 2006 at 1:10 pm |

    I don’t think it was ever proven, but a while ago we noted that Reggie Bush was fined for wearing his gold and black Adidas with visible stripes on the field. I don’t remember any photo evidence, but I came across this yesterday. It looks like a personalized Promodel with the rubber toe cap, but it’s certainly not an exact match because of the velcro, the shape of the tongue and the heel detail. Maybe Reggie’s got his own cleat! Any word on when the new Bushs come out?

  • Chris | August 22, 2006 at 1:16 pm |

    It’s not too difficult to get the Steelers uniform right, it hasn’t changed for so long.

    No work yet on John Madden’s lawsuit to have the ball Franco is catching lowered until it’s touching the turf….

  • mark | August 22, 2006 at 1:42 pm |

    Are the Bucs going to wear these this season. I hope the trend toward black jerseys doesn’t continue…

  • Anthony | August 22, 2006 at 2:28 pm |

    [quote comment=”6256″]Last night during the Dodgers-Padres game, Brett Tomko came on in relief in the the 8th inning. While pitching, his jersey was shifting to his left revealing the swoosh on his Nike undershirt. I’m not sure if that’s the same shirt he was wearing, but that’s where the swoosh was. Sorry, no screen grab.

    I think it was Ricky Williams who was horse collared (tackled by the neck of the back of his shoulder pads) and he complained that he had his hair pulled. A couple years ago, I think. I’m pretty sure that was the reason the ruling was made.[/quote]

    I think it had something to do with the tackles the cowboys safety roy williams was making. they were pretty vicious. the biggest uproar, if my memory serves me correctly, was after T.O. got hurt.

  • Steve-O | August 22, 2006 at 2:42 pm |

    i think the 1986 mets unis are a great uniform, espcially with the stirrups. these unis look A LOT better than some of the unis in baseball today. why can’t other teams put some effort into making a classy uniform and not junk?

  • Riff | August 22, 2006 at 2:56 pm |

    That sounds right, Anthony. I remember a rule being introduced after T.O. got hurt restricting the horse collar tackle.

    And someone mentioned this the other day. As a Cowboy fan, I just about blew my top. It was then that I swore off T.O. as a horrible person.

  • Jersey Mark | August 22, 2006 at 3:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”6252″][quote comment=”6238″]Those are great throwback style jeseys on the HS team, lets hope to see more of this soon.
    Those Garden State football jerseys make me asshamed of my heritage.[/quote]

    THAT is what makes you ashamed of being from Jersey???

    I could have sworn I saw that goalie mask somewhere before, but it turns out it was just here… http://namelyyours.n...
    Hey Now!

  • Nick | August 22, 2006 at 3:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”6242″]What is going on with the new NFL referee jerseys? Whose bright idea was it to change the most basic and classic uniform out there?[/quote]

    Seahawks fans put a curse on the NFL refs. They are doomed to wander the earth in these terrible uniforms until the Seahawks can claim what they so rightly earned.

  • Chris Doran | August 22, 2006 at 3:24 pm |

    [quote comment=”6265″]That sounds right, Anthony. I remember a rule being introduced after T.O. got hurt restricting the horse collar tackle.

    And someone mentioned this the other day. As a Cowboy fan, I just about blew my top. It was then that I swore off T.O. as a horrible person.[/quote]

    I am the rarest of all creatures, a Cowboy fan who was born and raised in Philadelphia…

    T.O’s excuse for that which I heard recently was that he asked someone why the hole was in the roof. The response was “That’s so God can watch his favorite team.” So T.O. figured the star in the middle of the field was the only place he could glorify God.

    Shold you believe that was his reason, I have some lovely land in Florida to offer you!!!

  • Gabe | August 22, 2006 at 3:32 pm |

    I play semi-pro in Pittsburgh. I think we have the best looking uni’s out there, our rivals the Pittsburgh Colts come in a close second though. The only problem with ours is that we have to wear black socks. As Paul would say it kinda makes us look like we are wearing tights. I would have gone with Columbia Blue myself. And although we are almost in last place I think we are the best looking team in the league.

    My team: Western Pa Warhawks
    Colts: Pittsburgh Colts
    notice the word “Pittsburgh” down their pant leg. I think that is pretty slick.

  • Gabe | August 22, 2006 at 3:34 pm |

    For some reason the links are not working if you want to see them just copy and paste I guess. Sorry.

    http://www.wpawarhaw...
    http://www.pittsburg...

  • Tyler hale | August 22, 2006 at 3:39 pm |

    [quote comment=”6261″]Are the Bucs going to wear these this season. I hope the trend toward black jerseys doesn’t continue…[/quote]
    I saw these uniforms go for sale (and people wearing them) starting about 2-3 years after the bucs came out with the “red and pewter” color scheme, though i have never seen the bucs wear it. My assuption is that its like some of the silver alternate jerseys teams release just so fans buy them. Its all for the money in my opinion

  • Bill | August 22, 2006 at 3:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”6270″][quote comment=”6265″]That sounds right, Anthony. I remember a rule being introduced after T.O. got hurt restricting the horse collar tackle.

    And someone mentioned this the other day. As a Cowboy fan, I just about blew my top. It was then that I swore off T.O. as a horrible person.[/quote]

    I am the rarest of all creatures, a Cowboy fan who was born and raised in Philadelphia…

    T.O’s excuse for that which I heard recently was that he asked someone why the hole was in the roof. The response was “That’s so God can watch his favorite team.” So T.O. figured the star in the middle of the field was the only place he could glorify God.

    Shold you believe that was his reason, I have some lovely land in Florida to offer you!!![/quote]

    TO was glorifying himself – which in TO’s world, means he is glorifying God. The man thinks he can walk on water – got news for you TO – I can too once it hits 32 degrees outside and I put on my skates.

  • Matthew | August 22, 2006 at 4:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”6274″][quote comment=”6270″][quote comment=”6265″]That sounds right, Anthony. I remember a rule being introduced after T.O. got hurt restricting the horse collar tackle.

    And someone mentioned this the other day. As a Cowboy fan, I just about blew my top. It was then that I swore off T.O. as a horrible person.[/quote]

    I am the rarest of all creatures, a Cowboy fan who was born and raised in Philadelphia…

    T.O’s excuse for that which I heard recently was that he asked someone why the hole was in the roof. The response was “That’s so God can watch his favorite team.” So T.O. figured the star in the middle of the field was the only place he could glorify God.

    Shold you believe that was his reason, I have some lovely land in Florida to offer you!!![/quote]

    TO was glorifying himself – which in TO’s world, means he is glorifying God. The man thinks he can walk on water – got news for you TO – I can too once it hits 32 degrees outside and I put on my skates.[/quote]

    What T.O. glorifies in more than anything else is people paying attention to him.

    T.O. and his whole shtick reminds me of the Halloween episode of The Simpsons where all the advertising comes alive and starts to destroy Springfield. The solution to the problem was “Just don’t look” (with a catchy jingle to help you remember it…oh irony).

    Anyway, I’m starting to wonder that, if everyone were to suddenly ignore T.O., would he keel over an die? I think it’s worth a shot.

  • Bill | August 22, 2006 at 4:10 pm |

    Anyway, I’m starting to wonder that, if everyone were to suddenly ignore T.O., would he keel over an die? I think it’s worth a shot.[/quote]

    The thing is – as long as ESPN, et al, continue to jam TO down our throats, we really don’t have much choice. Chad Johnson is getting to be the same way.

  • Matthew | August 22, 2006 at 4:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”6276″]Anyway, I’m starting to wonder that, if everyone were to suddenly ignore T.O., would he keel over an die? I think it’s worth a shot.[/quote]

    The thing is – as long as ESPN, et al, continue to jam TO down our throats, we really don’t have much choice. Chad Johnson is getting to be the same way.[/quote]

    I just change the channel personally, but that’s me. It also helps that I’m not a Cowboys fan, but others can’t avoid that so easily.

    Chad Johnson is not quite to the point yet where I despise him (I thought the giving the presents away after his touchdown in December was awesome and his hitting the football with the end zone marker like a putter was funny), but he is starting to get on my nerves.

    Since this is Uniwatch, I’ll also throw out the fact that I liked the Cowboys uniforms in the game against the Saints last night. And am I mistaken or were those helmets white?

  • Chris | August 22, 2006 at 4:24 pm |

    pleasant news I just heard…the Raptors are tweaking the unis once again, and they are moving away from the purple!!

    Their unis will feature a lot more red, and the dino logo is gone….in its place, the Raptors will use what was their secondary logo which is the claw.

  • smcs | August 22, 2006 at 4:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”6278″]pleasant news I just heard…the Raptors are tweaking the unis once again, and they are moving away from the purple!!

    Their unis will feature a lot more red, and the dino logo is gone….in its place, the Raptors will use what was their secondary logo which is the claw.[/quote]

    Morris Peterson posted these pictures of Chris Bosh on his Myspace site on July 30.

  • Ben | August 22, 2006 at 4:45 pm |

    This is completely off topic but while i was at a local burger joint the other day, our waiter (a beautiful blonde by the way) was wearing clean white socks that went to her knee, the kicker? They had red and blue stripes around the calf in a thin-thick-thin pattern. Truly a beautiful spectacle.

  • Mike from Queens | August 22, 2006 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”6261″]Are the Bucs going to wear these this season. I hope the trend toward black jerseys doesn’t continue…[/quote]

    I don’t mind black NFL unis. I don’t even have much of a problem with this. The problem with this Bucs jersey is that it’s too shiny. Dresses are shiny; shoes are shiny; happy people can be shiny; football jerseys should not be shiny. As long as we never see Link Name or Link Name again, I’ll be happy.

  • Riff | August 22, 2006 at 5:00 pm |

    I too wish that all of the sports news outlets would simply stop talking about TO. It’s just too hard to avoid him because he makes the cover story EVERYWHERE! Grrr, frustrating.

    TO’s claim to Christianity and God is a bunch of crock. If he really was, he wouldn’t act the way he does by drawing so much attention to himself and getting into contract disputes over more money.

    And yes, Matthew, those Cowboys helmets are white. But they are only worn with those jerseys.

  • Matthew | August 22, 2006 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”6283″]I too wish that all of the sports news outlets would simply stop talking about TO. It’s just too hard to avoid him because he makes the cover story EVERYWHERE! Grrr, frustrating.

    TO’s claim to Christianity and God is a bunch of crock. If he really was, he wouldn’t act the way he does by drawing so much attention to himself and getting into contract disputes over more money.

    And yes, Matthew, those Cowboys helmets are white. But they are only worn with those jerseys.[/quote]

    I was curious about the helmets, thanks Riff. Do you know if they plan to wear these as alternates at all during the regular season?

  • Micah | August 22, 2006 at 5:27 pm |

    Riff,

    Reggie does have his own sig cleat; it’s coming out at the beginning of the season. I find it interesting that he still wears Nike gloves though.

  • Luke | August 22, 2006 at 5:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”6253″]Mr. Lukas, I’m very impressed with your expansive knowledge of condiment history.[/quote]

    Huh?

  • concealed78 | August 22, 2006 at 5:43 pm |

    Why the hell are the Cowboys wearing throwbacks in an exhibition game??

  • Luke | August 22, 2006 at 5:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”6286″][quote comment=”6253″]Mr. Lukas, I’m very impressed with your expansive knowledge of condiment history.[/quote]

    Huh?[/quote]

    Ohhhh, nevermind…

  • Nolan | August 22, 2006 at 5:51 pm |

    [quote comment=”6284″][quote comment=”6283″]I too wish that all of the sports news outlets would simply stop talking about TO. It’s just too hard to avoid him because he makes the cover story EVERYWHERE! Grrr, frustrating.

    TO’s claim to Christianity and God is a bunch of crock. If he really was, he wouldn’t act the way he does by drawing so much attention to himself and getting into contract disputes over more money.

    And yes, Matthew, those Cowboys helmets are white. But they are only worn with those jerseys.[/quote]

    I was curious about the helmets, thanks Riff. Do you know if they plan to wear these as alternates at all during the regular season?[/quote]

    As far as I know the Cowboys will only wear those throwbacks on Thanksgiving. They did the same thing last year too.

  • Riff | August 22, 2006 at 5:57 pm |

    I’ll bet he can’t because of logo creep like this, since only the Reebok logo is allowed. I think we mentioned here that it might be a potential problem for Mario Williams as well.

  • tony | August 22, 2006 at 6:35 pm |

    [quote comment=”6227″]So what is that sleeve patch on the hornet’s jersey supposed to be? It certainly doesn’t look like a hornet.[/quote]

    Umm, a very angry hive?!?

  • Mike from Queens | August 22, 2006 at 7:07 pm |

    I’ve always wondered why most Japanese uniforms have Latin script. Even the names on the back of the jerseys. If I remember correctly, the Russian players in the Olympics used Latin type letters for their nameplates (scroll through to see), and not the natural Cyrillic. Yet, the front of their jerseys look like this. This is the Cyrillic, with the initial P functioning as an R. You’d pronounce it in English as “Rossiya” with an accent on the I.

    The best example I’ve seen are Tretiak jerseys. To spell it out in Cyrillic, it would be much different looking, but I’ve seen multiple kinds of jerseys for him: Latin / Cyrillic.

    Most countries at least include their own language on their jerseys (Finland,Germany, and Belarus. Yet, Japanese teams have none of this.

    I guess my question is multifold and complicated:

    1. Why do Japanese teams not even use a hint of their natural language and script on their uniforms? They use it in their boxscores, so why not the unis?
    2. Why the different spellings for Tretiak? Why would his Russian jersey have his name spelt differently than once used for Olympic play? Is the Latin alphabet any more legitimate? Is it marketing or advertising? If so, wouldn’t we all want the Tretiak jersey with the authentic Cyrillic spelling?
    3. The same goes for Japanese unis. Wouldn’t diehard Ichiro fans rather wear an authentic Japanese uniform with authentic Japanese script as opposed to those ugly Mariner unis?

  • Mike from Queens | August 22, 2006 at 7:14 pm |

    That first link doesn’t work, but you can search or just trust me. It’s not Cyrillic.

  • MAO | August 22, 2006 at 7:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”6271″]I play semi-pro in Pittsburgh. I think we have the best looking uni’s out there, our rivals the Pittsburgh Colts come in a close second though. The only problem with ours is that we have to wear black socks. As Paul would say it kinda makes us look like we are wearing tights. I would have gone with Columbia Blue myself. And although we are almost in last place I think we are the best looking team in the league.
    [/quote]

    I hope this is a joke. Those are some of the worst unis I’ve ever seen. I’m ok with the solid black helmet. But what is going on with those shirts?

  • Tom O'Grady | August 22, 2006 at 7:39 pm |

    As leaked a few weeks ago…

    “In essence, fans could not identify many of the new players without looking at a scorecard, and the old-fashioned scoreboard isn’t conducive to associating players with their numbers.

    “I think baseball in general has a pretty high turnover from year to year,” McDonough said. “And I think with your younger fans, those impressions are made at such an early age, and I think it just makes it a little bit easier [to identify players].

    “I think this year, by the time the season ends, we’ll have close to 40 players who have been on the roster. We’re kind of seeing that trend continue.”

    The Cubs decided to take names off the jerseys before the start of the 2005 season, when they had many more familiar faces, including Wood, Prior, Zambrano, Greg Maddux, Nomar Garciaparra and Corey Patterson.

    It was a concession to the team’s history, though many fans didn’t care for the move, as the Cubs quickly discovered.

    “This whole franchise speaks to tradition, history and nostalgia,” McDonough said. “You look back and say that part of that [tradition] was just the numbers on the backs on uniforms without the names. So we experimented with it for a couple of years, and then collectively we thought it was time to bring back [the names].”

    T.

  • JTH | August 22, 2006 at 10:49 pm |

    I happen to know John McDonough and he’s a hell of a nice guy and a marketing/PR virtuoso (and actually a Sox fan), but he’s completely full of crap here. Especially this part:

    [quote comment=”6297″]”I think this year, by the time the season ends, we’ll have close to 40 players who have been on the roster. We’re kind of seeing that trend continue.”[/quote]

    Really John? You’ll have close to 40 players on the 40-man roster by the time the season ends? That’s a staggering figure.

  • Knor | August 23, 2006 at 8:49 am |

    Hilf? is that you? Did you formerly work at Dickinson College? Are you in PGH full time?

  • Kevin | August 23, 2006 at 9:10 am |

    I know no one is probably going to read this, but hockey players do not wear jerseys, they wear sweaters. Paul, I’m surprised you missed that.

  • a arauz | August 23, 2006 at 9:52 am |

    [quote comment=”6297″]As leaked a few weeks ago…

    “In essence, fans could not identify many of the new players without looking at a scorecard, and the old-fashioned scoreboard isn’t conducive to associating players with their numbers.

    “I think baseball in general has a pretty high turnover from year to year,” McDonough said. “And I think with your younger fans, those impressions are made at such an early age, and I think it just makes it a little bit easier [to identify players].

    “I think this year, by the time the season ends, we’ll have close to 40 players who have been on the roster. We’re kind of seeing that trend continue.”

    The Cubs decided to take names off the jerseys before the start of the 2005 season, when they had many more familiar faces, including Wood, Prior, Zambrano, Greg Maddux, Nomar Garciaparra and Corey Patterson.

    It was a concession to the team’s history, though many fans didn’t care for the move, as the Cubs quickly discovered.

    “This whole franchise speaks to tradition, history and nostalgia,” McDonough said. “You look back and say that part of that [tradition] was just the numbers on the backs on uniforms without the names. So we experimented with it for a couple of years, and then collectively we thought it was time to bring back [the names].”

    T.[/quote]

    Enuff, already ! You were right, stop blowing your horn already… jeez, we don’t care.

  • VolHockey | August 23, 2006 at 9:55 am |

    Am I the only one that looked at the one very tall guy in the middle of the Garden State Football League picture and thought:

    “So, that’s where Tony Mandarich ended up!”

  • Teebz | August 23, 2006 at 10:18 am |

    [quote comment=”6294″]
    2. Why the different spellings for Tretiak? Why would his Russian jersey have his name spelt differently than once used for Olympic play? Is the Latin alphabet any more legitimate? Is it marketing or advertising? If so, wouldn’t we all want the Tretiak jersey with the authentic Cyrillic spelling?[/quote]

    I believe it has to do with the large number of media members that go to the Olympics. If the name is written in Russian, there aren’t too many play-by-play guys who can translate on the fly. Some of these countries (Kazakhstan, Ukraine)have players that no one has ever heard oif outside of their club teams. So writing it in “Latin” is much easier for the viewers, play-by-play guys, to know who that guy is and how to pronounce his name.

    As an aside, I have a Latvia jersey with Ozolinsh on the back. However, the Latvian spelling of Ozolinsh in “Latin” becomes “Ozolins”. Great jersey in terms of bold colors simplicity. However, unlike the link below, mine is the dark jersey.

    Link Name

  • Beau | August 24, 2006 at 9:17 pm |

    ha ha. I had a good chuckle at the Garden State Football League picture. Those look like something designed for a WWE wrestler. and what’s with those little white triangles on the sleves?