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Glove Is a Many-Splendored Thing

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As of this writing, there have been a whopping 170 comments in response to yesterday’s post (and only a few of them were people double-commenting to apologize for their typos), so you might have missed No. 162, in which a pseudonymous reader reported thusly: “Bottom of the 1st in the Giants/Padres game tonight and the Giants’ announcers (Jon Miller and FP Santangelo) just spent a few minutes discussing Matt Morris’s glove. Apparently Morris usually pitches with a black glove, but tonight [i.e., last night] he is sporting a brown model. Santangelo reported that he discussed it with Morris pregame, and Morris said he is 1-1 with the brown glove and wants to get it over .500 (the black glove is 7-9).”

Colored gloves have been in the news lately, mainly because of Bobby Abreu, who retained his Phillies-colored glove — red with blue stitching — even after joining the Yankees. Naturally, the official Uni Watch position is that colored gloves are an affront, and that everyone should stick with basic brown. You wanna wear some other color? Fine, just make sure your glove is made out of plastic, or vinyl, polysomethingorother. But if you want to wear real leather, stick to the natural tones — that steer didn’t moo and graze and get herded down to the slaughterhouse just to suffer the indignity of having his skin dyed blue (or red, or whatever).

Alas, baseball’s rulebook is disappointingly lax on this point. The only restriction is set out in rule 1.15(a): “The pitcher’s glove may not be white, gray, nor, in the judgment of an umpire, distracting in any manner.” The “distracting” qualifier has generally been interpreted to mean that the pitcher’s glove must be solid-colored, not two-tone, and has occasionally resulted in pitchers having to switch gloves at the outset of a game.

At least two current pitchers like to color-coordinate their gloves. The first is our friend Pedro Martinez, who frequently wore blue witih the Dodgers (faux stirrups alert!), blue again with the Expos (the red stitching is the sort of thing that can get a glove banned under the “distracting” rule; also, note Pedro’s then-trademark slit sleeves, now banned), and red — or at least red-ish — with the Red Sox. Now that he’s with the Mets, he often wears blue.

But Pedro (who has routinely swapped in a black glove for the colored models) has nothing on Jose Mesa, whose glovely colors date back to his days with Cleveland, where he wore red at home and blue on the road. He then wore blue with the Mariners, black with the Giants, red at home with the Phillies (and blue on the road), and black with the Pirates (too bad he’s a pitcher, or he could’ve worn this). All of this, however, was just a warmup for the horror he unveiled upon joining the Rockies.

Call for Questions: After the recent debut of the Uni Watch Profiles series (the next installment of which will feature Jon Springer, the man behind the amazing Mets by the Numbers site), several readers wrote in to request that I include myself on the list of future interviewees. I like this idea, so I’ve drafted longtime Uni Watch contributor and correspondent Todd Krevanchi to pepper me with questions. In addition to coming up with his own queries for me, he’ll also ask questions on your behalf. So if there’s anything you want to know about me, or about Uni Watch (aside from the questions already addressed on our FAQ page), e-mail them directly to Todd (that way I won’t see the questions in advance), and he’ll include the best ones in our interview. Remember, there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers — and hopefully I’ll manage to avoid any of those — so feel free to ask whatever’s on your mind.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Here’s an old uniform catalog I won’t be bidding on. … Who says you can’t have eyes in the back of your head? (With thanks to Jeremy Brahm.) … For the second consecutive year, the Bengals have posted their game-by-game uniform schedule on their web site, a move that other teams would be wise to follow. Of course, the real problem is that the Bengals look like crap no matter which uni they wear.

 

114 comments to Glove Is a Many-Splendored Thing

  • Max Dugan | August 16, 2006 at 8:57 am |

    I’m a born and bred, die-hard Bengals fan, and yes, I LOVE the uniforms, even the Orange Jersey-Black Pants style.

    I find the new Vikings uniforms garish and ugly.

    Is this a symptom of schizophrenia?

  • Casey | August 16, 2006 at 9:07 am |

    As a Bengals fan (and someone who stands against Uni Watch, in favor of the Bengals sweet helmet), I can only say I hope (pointlessly, I realize) that the team’s pant and sock combos are unavailable because they’re ditching the black pants (the worst thing to happen to the franchise since Ki-Jana Carter).

  • Marc M. | August 16, 2006 at 9:12 am |

    All hail the country’s biggest sock maker (including Under Armor.

  • Kevin | August 16, 2006 at 9:18 am |

    Bengals fans trashing the Vikes uniforms?

    Pot/Kettle?

  • Jersey Mark | August 16, 2006 at 9:22 am |

    The YES announcers commented during yesterdays game the Randy Johnson just switched gloves from a black model to a basic brown. T
    hey went on to comment how David Wells used a new glove for every Yankees start, and auctioned each one off to charity. Imagine breaking in a new glove all the time like that?
    Maybe he used it to hold his beers in between starts

  • Matt | August 16, 2006 at 9:33 am |

    [quote comment=”5574″]The YES announcers commented during yesterdays game the Randy Johnson just switched gloves from a black model to a basic brown. T
    hey went on to comment how David Wells used a new glove for every Yankees start, and auctioned each one off to charity. Imagine breaking in a new glove all the time like that?
    Maybe he used it to hold his beers in between starts[/quote]

    Rey Ordonez used to use different gloves for every start…

  • Tom | August 16, 2006 at 9:34 am |

    I just have to say thank goodness the Bengals will be wearing their black jerseys against the Patriots. Now I’ll just have to hope and pray they dont wear black pants with the black jerseys…

  • Tom | August 16, 2006 at 9:36 am |

    [quote comment=”5574″]The YES announcers commented during yesterdays game the Randy Johnson just switched gloves from a black model to a basic brown. T
    hey went on to comment how David Wells used a new glove for every Yankees start, and auctioned each one off to charity. Imagine breaking in a new glove all the time like that?
    Maybe he used it to hold his beers in between starts[/quote]

    The gloves that major leaguers get are pretty much broken in when they get them. They’re made with the good leather so they dont need the whole Neatsfoot Oil and rubber band treatment.

  • StevenWyder | August 16, 2006 at 9:38 am |

    My love for the both the Bengals, their uni’s and Uni Watch has never faded. Despite Uni Watch doesn’t like the Bengals Uni’s I can get over that.

    It’s good to see them wearing black on the road vs. Tampa Bay and New Orleans. Although Tampa could be hot, but I really don’t think the black jersey’s count for more than a couple of degrees.

    That is probably the same reason they are wearing white at home vs. the Browns. We have to see those horrible browns orange road jerseys.

    I always like the Black jersey/white pants the best. I agree the black/black look needs to be eliminated. They seem to wear them for big games, and look horrible. It was also the color combo of the playoff game last year, when Carson Palmer was hurt.

  • Mike | August 16, 2006 at 9:44 am |

    Stand up, Bengals nation! Orange and black stripes all the way!

    The Bengals are the only NFL team to combine two of my daughter’s favorite things: Halloween and tigers (she’ll be three in September). Of course, if the Vikings would lighten their purple to “fairy princess lavender” and replace their mascot with Polly Pockets, we might have another contender.

  • Mark | August 16, 2006 at 9:48 am |

    [quote comment=”5579″]My love for the both the Bengals, their uni’s and Uni Watch has never faded. Despite Uni Watch doesn’t like the Bengals Uni’s I can get over that.

    It’s good to see them wearing black on the road vs. Tampa Bay and New Orleans. Although Tampa could be hot, but I really don’t think the black jersey’s count for more than a couple of degrees.

    That is probably the same reason they are wearing white at home vs. the Browns. We have to see those horrible browns orange road jerseys.

    I always like the Black jersey/white pants the best. I agree the black/black look needs to be eliminated. They seem to wear them for big games, and look horrible. It was also the color combo of the playoff game last year, when Carson Palmer was hurt.[/quote]

    For that reason, maybe they won’t wear the combo again (we can only hope). I too am a devoted Bengals and UniWatch fan who isn’t offended by the Bengals new duds. However,is there any hope for them wearing these as a throwback any time soon? I love the current helmet, but I think the simple orange with the team name is great! I have scoured the globe for an officially licensed jersey of this ilk and have come up empty every time. I once read that Paul Brown put the stripes on the helmet because he couldn’t distinguish between the Bengals and Browns from the owner’s box during a snowy game. Does Brown family hold the same hatred for these unis as the Glazers do for the creamcicle oranges?

  • BlackDog | August 16, 2006 at 9:56 am |

    [quote comment=”5567″]I’m a born and bred, die-hard Bengals fan, and yes, I LOVE the uniforms, even the Orange Jersey-Black Pants style.

    I find the new Vikings uniforms garish and ugly.

    Is this a symptom of schizophrenia?[/quote]
    Yes. It is. I’m afraid you are quite sick. The only thing close to being as ugly as the Bengals uniforms are Buffalo’s. I’m sorry. With the correct therapy you may recover.

  • Tom O'Grady | August 16, 2006 at 10:24 am |

    So if there’s anything you want to know about me, or about Uni Watch (aside from the questions already addressed on our FAQ page), e-mail them directly to Todd (that way I won’t see the questions in advance), and he’ll include the best ones in our interview.

    No questions about socks or Witesock…that’s all I ask.

    T.

  • Mark Paul | August 16, 2006 at 10:26 am |

    I still Seattle’s are the worst, I don’t know why they won’t just go with white pants. And Buffalo’s are bad too, but their retros from last year were cool. And let’s not forget how awful the all black look is for Baltimore or Jacksonville.

    I’m hoping to start a petition to get the eagles to drop their black jerseys in favor of sporting the kelly green and silver pants twice a year

  • StevenWyder | August 16, 2006 at 10:27 am |

    [quote comment=”5582″][quote comment=”5579″].

    I too am a devoted Bengals and UniWatch fan who isn’t offended by the Bengals new duds. However,is there any hope for them wearing these as a throwback any time soon? I love the current helmet, but I think the simple orange with the team name is great! I have scoured the globe for an officially licensed jersey of this ilk and have come up empty every time. I once read that Paul Brown put the stripes on the helmet because he couldn’t distinguish between the Bengals and Browns from the owner’s box during a snowy game.

    Mark,
    I too have looked for a throwback Bengals Jersey. I don’t ever remember them wearing throwback uni’s during the 94 season when it was very popular. It might have been limited to the original teams.

    The closest thing I could find was the t-shirt on Bengals.com with an old style bengal helmet on an orange t-shirt. They have a similar one for sale now.

    I hadn’t heard that was the reason for the stripes before. But it is interesting and makes alot of sense. They certainly needed to distinguish themselves from Cleveland.

    Also Mitchell and Ness has a Bengals retro jacket for sale this year, with the original tiger running with a football, the helmet popping off.

  • Tom O'Grady | August 16, 2006 at 10:28 am |

    And when breaking in your newly colored glove, don’t forget the GLOVOLIUM please…

    http://cgi.ebay.com/...

    Sweet.

    T.

  • Dan | August 16, 2006 at 10:36 am |

    i think we should petition the NFL to allow us as a collective group to redesign one of the truly attrocious uniforms (i.e. the Bungles, Vikes, Seattle, Bills, Denver, etc.)

    also, as part of uniform regulations, leotard looks need to be banned forever

  • Natron | August 16, 2006 at 10:38 am |

    [quote comment=”5587″][quote comment=”5582″][quote comment=”5579″].

    I don’t ever remember them wearing throwback uni’s during the 94 season when it was very popular. It might have been limited to the original teams.

    [/quote]

    The Bengals wore throwbacks in ’94.

  • Tom | August 16, 2006 at 10:38 am |

    The Bengals did wear throwbacks during the 1994 season. Here is the only picture I could find.

  • Dan | August 16, 2006 at 10:43 am |

    [quote comment=”5591″]The Bengals did wear throwbacks during the 1994 season. Here is the only picture I could find.[/quote]

    the 1994 season was awesome only because of the throwbacks…teams like Pittsburgh and Green bay had ridiculous uniforms, but still looked cool

  • Mark | August 16, 2006 at 10:48 am |

    Thanks Natron and Tom for the picture, gives me hope for possibly finding a Bengals throwback. Put a grey facemask on that helmet and it would be outstanding!

  • Natron | August 16, 2006 at 10:52 am |

    [quote comment=”5593″][quote comment=”5591″]The Bengals did wear throwbacks during the 1994 season. Here is the only picture I could find.[/quote]

    the 1994 season was awesome only because of the throwbacks…teams like Pittsburgh and Green bay had ridiculous uniforms, but still looked cool[/quote]

    Lest we forget the 94 Bears. Although, is the 94 jersey really all that bad in comparison?

  • Kevin Z | August 16, 2006 at 10:53 am |

    I think the Bengals would have some of the best jerseys in the league if they got rid of the white stripe down the side (that even extends down to the pants stripe, which would look better with just the black and orange stripes. no white). I know Paul reported that the reason was to resemble the white patch on a href=”http://www.luxuryindiantravel.com/images/luxury-indian-tours/royal-bengal-tiger.jpg”>real tigers.
    My take: looks great on the animal, terrible on the football team.

  • D Schmitt | August 16, 2006 at 10:53 am |

    We’ve Uni-Watch’d another poor GeoCities site.

  • StevenWyder | August 16, 2006 at 10:57 am |

    Bummer none of the ’94 Jersey links are working.

  • Ian K | August 16, 2006 at 10:59 am |

    F.P. Santangelo is the color guy for Giants games??? That is hilarious! Now I have more reasons to laugh at the Giants, in addition to Bonds, Jon Miller, their aged lineup, and the Dodgers’ recent sweep of them.

  • Dan | August 16, 2006 at 11:00 am |

    [quote comment=”5600″]F.P. Santangelo is the color guy for Giants games??? That is hilarious! Now I have more reasons to laugh at the Giants, in addition to Bonds, Jon Miller, their aged lineup, and the Dodgers’ recent sweep of them.[/quote]

    how can you not like jon miller…hes the premier play-by-play guy in baseball…nothing better than the sunday night game with him and Joe morgan

  • Natron | August 16, 2006 at 11:06 am |

    Here is the ’94 Packers

  • Jersey Mark | August 16, 2006 at 11:21 am |

    [quote comment=”5601″][quote comment=”5600″]F.P. Santangelo is the color guy for Giants games??? That is hilarious! Now I have more reasons to laugh at the Giants, in addition to Bonds, Jon Miller, their aged lineup, and the Dodgers’ recent sweep of them.[/quote]

    how can you not like jon miller…hes the premier play-by-play guy in baseball…nothing better than the sunday night game with him and Joe morgan[/quote]
    Jon Miller is another example of an aged announcer who should hang it up, ala Tim McCarver, I am still scared from the days when the Yankees were on FOX in NY and I had to hear McCarver and his ridiculous bias.
    Now the Yankees are continuing this tradition with the geriatric Jim Kaat.

  • Dan | August 16, 2006 at 11:26 am |

    [quote comment=”5603″][quote comment=”5601″][quote comment=”5600″]F.P. Santangelo is the color guy for Giants games??? That is hilarious! Now I have more reasons to laugh at the Giants, in addition to Bonds, Jon Miller, their aged lineup, and the Dodgers’ recent sweep of them.[/quote]

    how can you not like jon miller…hes the premier play-by-play guy in baseball…nothing better than the sunday night game with him and Joe morgan[/quote]
    Jon Miller is another example of an aged announcer who should hang it up, ala Tim McCarver, I am still scared from the days when the Yankees were on FOX in NY and I had to hear McCarver and his ridiculous bias.
    Now the Yankees are continuing this tradition with the geriatric Jim Kaat.[/quote]

    miller is getting old, but he has one of the best voices in baseball…you’re ok with Jim Kaat when compared with Michael Sterling…worst radio announcer ever…goes right into those assinine hr calls on routine fly balls, and finds ways to be the biggest homer ever

    give me gary cohen, ron darling and keith hernandez

  • Kevin Z | August 16, 2006 at 11:35 am |

    Jon Miller I can live with, but Joe Morgan is terrible!

  • Kevin | August 16, 2006 at 11:38 am |

    The biggest problem with Joe Morgan? He’s his own biggest fan.

  • J-Rob | August 16, 2006 at 11:39 am |

    Is it me or does Cincinatti steal all their ideas from Cleveland Sports? I haven’t been around long enough, or actually done much research. Correct me if I’m wrong here.

    1. The “C” on the Reds. Who had that first, Reds or Indians?
    2. Um, Paul Brown.
    3. Bengals colors. I know we have Brown and Orange, but cmon, Black and Orange (I think Paul Brown brought those)?
    4. Toothbrush lighting Great American Ballpark…
    5. Paul Brown stadium kinda looks like Cleveland Stadium.

    Am I being really picky? Maybe I just hate the “Natti”

  • George T | August 16, 2006 at 11:40 am |

    Paul,
    The Indians have had a bad enough year already for us die-hard Tribe fans. We have suffered for decades without a World Series championship. So what do you do to us grieving Cleveland fans — post not one, but two pictures of Joe Table, the man who choked in Game 7 of the 1997 World Series and broke all of Cleveland’s hearts. Shame on you Paul for piling on us long-suffering Indians’ fans! ;)

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | August 16, 2006 at 11:44 am |

    [quote comment=”5604″][quote comment=”5603″][quote comment=”5601″][quote comment=”5600″]F.P. Santangelo is the color guy for Giants games??? That is hilarious! Now I have more reasons to laugh at the Giants, in addition to Bonds, Jon Miller, their aged lineup, and the Dodgers’ recent sweep of them.[/quote]

    how can you not like jon miller…hes the premier play-by-play guy in baseball…nothing better than the sunday night game with him and Joe morgan[/quote]
    Jon Miller is another example of an aged announcer who should hang it up, ala Tim McCarver, I am still scared from the days when the Yankees were on FOX in NY and I had to hear McCarver and his ridiculous bias.
    Now the Yankees are continuing this tradition with the geriatric Jim Kaat.[/quote]

    miller is getting old, but he has one of the best voices in baseball…you’re ok with Jim Kaat when compared with Michael Sterling…worst radio announcer ever…goes right into those assinine hr calls on routine fly balls, and finds ways to be the biggest homer ever

    give me gary cohen, ron darling and keith hernandez[/quote]

    im sure you meant to reference john sterling and just combined him with michael kay. as much as i despise john sterling, the “michael sterling” creation could be the absolute worst…ever.

  • Dan | August 16, 2006 at 11:46 am |

    that’s by far the most embarrassing thing to happen to me all day

    its been a long week

  • Ben | August 16, 2006 at 11:52 am |

    Anyone else noticed David Ortiz’s off-center helmet logo. Also, Wily Mo Pena’s recent hitting tear appears to be credited to his choice of non-matching batting gloves.

  • Mark Paul | August 16, 2006 at 11:54 am |

    Those packers ones aren’t too bad, but the steelers looked like a Euro soccer jersey.

  • Lisa Simpson | August 16, 2006 at 12:01 pm |

    I hope the Mets by the Numbers guy has woken up from his coma. Here is what he says about current Mets #7:

    “Nineteen-year-old uber-prospect Jose Reyes made his Met debut in No. 7 in 2003 and electrified the struggling franchise (.307/.334/.434) until an ankle injury shut him down in September. Much of the Mets’ hopes continue to ride with Reyes, whose frequent injuries in 2004 frankly scare the crap out of us.”

    Maybe someone should tell him about the war in Iraq and Brangelina too.

  • Justin | August 16, 2006 at 12:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”5574″] They went on to comment how David Wells used a new glove for every Yankees start, and auctioned each one off to charity. Imagine breaking in a new glove all the time like that?
    Maybe he used it to hold his beers in between starts[/quote]

    Wells still does this with the Red Sox and each glove is numbered. Which actually helps him keep count of his starts as his contract is very incentive based, with more money per start.

  • Mark | August 16, 2006 at 12:06 pm |

    [quote comment=”5609″]Is it me or does Cincinatti steal all their ideas from Cleveland Sports? I haven’t been around long enough, or actually done much research. Correct me if I’m wrong here.

    1. The “C” on the Reds. Who had that first, Reds or Indians?
    2. Um, Paul Brown.
    3. Bengals colors. I know we have Brown and Orange, but cmon, Black and Orange (I think Paul Brown brought those)?
    4. Toothbrush lighting Great American Ballpark…
    5. Paul Brown stadium kinda looks like Cleveland Stadium.

    Am I being really picky? Maybe I just hate the “Natti”[/quote]

    J-Rob: doing some quick research, the wishbone “C” makes its first appearance on a Reds Uni in 1914, it first appearance for Cleveland is 1933. As far as Paul Brown (reverent silence) goes, wasn’t he basically fired by the team that carries his name and since relocated? As far as I know, the Bengals were originally a team in 1937 (in the AFL), then 1940 (in the second incarnation of the AFL). Paul Brown (reverent silence) bused this name to call back on the city’s football history. I may be assuming, but the orange and black may just come form the colors of a bengal tiger.

  • Heath | August 16, 2006 at 12:15 pm |

    Is it just me or is the style of the Packers throwback the same as the current Bills jersey? How then do you explain the relative approval of the Packers design while the Bills uniform is met with so much disdain? I like them both, in what may be my biggest disagreement with Uni-Watch. Oh, except that I think that purple is an awesome color and more teams should use it.

  • MAO | August 16, 2006 at 12:16 pm |

    As bad as the Bengals unis are, at least they have great helmets. Remember, they used to wear these terrible things from 1968-79:

    http://www.onlinespo...

  • Jersey Mark | August 16, 2006 at 12:20 pm |

    [quote comment=”5617″][quote comment=”5574″] They went on to comment how David Wells used a new glove for every Yankees start, and auctioned each one off to charity. Imagine breaking in a new glove all the time like that?
    Maybe he used it to hold his beers in between starts[/quote]

    Wells still does this with the Red Sox and each glove is numbered. Which actually helps him keep count of his starts as his contract is very incentive based, with more money per start.[/quote]
    I hope he can get a refund for all the unused gloves he must have from this year.

  • J-Rob | August 16, 2006 at 12:20 pm |

    Mark,
    Thanks for the research on the “C”.

    Never sure about colors of teams and the object their representing like the Rams, not sure if Vikings wore purple, Bears…

    Just figured the Bengals wanted to jock the Browns.

  • Rick | August 16, 2006 at 12:22 pm |

    I think we just crashed the 94 Throwback Uni Site. Stupid geocities.

  • Jersey Mark | August 16, 2006 at 12:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”5604″]
    miller is getting old, but he has one of the best voices in baseball…you’re ok with Jim Kaat when compared with Michael Sterling…worst radio announcer ever…goes right into those assinine hr calls on routine fly balls, and finds ways to be the biggest homer ever

    give me gary cohen, ron darling and keith hernandez[/quote]

    Michael Sterling? I like John Sterling, I think his voice is great and he’s been with the Yankees forever so he knows his stuff. The goofiness just adds to the fun in my opinion.
    YES Is just fudging the whole thing up witht their musical chairs in the booth. This year they have had:
    Michael Kay
    Jim Kaat
    Bobby Murcer
    Ken Singleton
    Paul O’Neill
    Al Leiter(Really a Met, not a Yankee)
    and John Flaherty
    I think I’m missing one or two, but the point is that myself and most other people want to hear the same 2-3 guys every night.

    The amazing thing is that Singleton had to broadcast one game solo two weeks ago because O’Neill’s flight was delayed.

    I’ve watched a lot of Mets games this year too, and I just always seem to catch those three in the middle of some ridiculous tangent. They seem hell bent on thinking that everything was better when they were playing.
    Cohen is a professional, great voice, but the other two stilll have work to do until they can be considered broadcasters.

  • Bonnie | August 16, 2006 at 12:29 pm |

    Mike Timlin beats out all those other colored gloves; he uses a camo-colored glove!

    Camo Glove

  • Mark | August 16, 2006 at 12:32 pm |

    [quote comment=”5624″]Mark,
    Thanks for the research on the “C”.

    Never sure about colors of teams and the object their representing like the Rams, not sure if Vikings wore purple, Bears…

    Just figured the Bengals wanted to jock the Browns.[/quote]

    true, I haven’t seen to many orange and blue bears (or broncos for that matter). I may have just assumed on the colors, and we all know what happens when we assume now, don’t we?

  • Gil68 | August 16, 2006 at 12:47 pm |

    I remember reading somewhere (I know “somewhere” is not necessarily a credible source) that G.S. Halas picked navy and burnt orange for the bears because it was his alma mater Univ. of Illinois’s colors. Can anyone confirm?

  • Mark in Shiga | August 16, 2006 at 12:52 pm |

    Is it just my imagination or is there a bigger proportion of black gloves made to fit the right hand (i. e. for left-handed throwers)? I’m a lefty and have always had a black glove, all the way back to the mid-1980s. Never had an earth-toned one though my right-handed friends all did.

    Probably just coincidence.

  • a arauz | August 16, 2006 at 12:55 pm |

    [quote comment=”5595″][quote comment=”5593″][quote comment=”5591″]The Bengals did wear throwbacks during the 1994 season. Here is the only picture I could find.[/quote]

    the 1994 season was awesome only because of the throwbacks…teams like Pittsburgh and Green bay had ridiculous uniforms, but still looked cool[/quote]

    Lest we forget the 94 Bears. Although, is the 94 jersey really all that bad in comparison?[/quote]
    Didn’t the Bears wear those red/orange things during the 1939 season or thereabouts?

  • Mark Paul | August 16, 2006 at 1:05 pm |

    some of those 94’s are much better than the current…namely the Saints and Lions

  • Buckeye Mike | August 16, 2006 at 1:06 pm |

    Something to point out on the bangals unis. first off, I HATE them, as in both the team and the unis (GO BROWNS!) but I want to point out 2 things. First, TMQ on espn page two is cuttin in on the turf with his AFC preveiw, talkin about the bengals.
    Bengals real unis

    and the differant ones, which, maybe we should push for them to be fined b/c of, maybe we could get these uglys off the feild
    TJ Whosurmomma

  • Buckeye Mike | August 16, 2006 at 1:08 pm |

    By the way, the problem is the shoulder stripping look closely, I know I don’t have to point this out to most of you, but when i was a Uni-Rookie, it was helpful to have someone say the problem some times.

    Just lookin out for the newbies!!!

  • Chris | August 16, 2006 at 1:18 pm |

    [quote comment=”5591″]The Bengals did wear throwbacks during the 1994 season. Here is the only picture I could find.[/quote]

    Is it just me or are there tiger stripes in the metallic of the throwback helmets? I couldn’t see it the picture in #43, just the geocities one, too bad the site is crashed.

  • StevenWyder | August 16, 2006 at 1:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”5609″]Is it me or does Cincinatti steal all their ideas from Cleveland Sports? I haven’t been around long enough, or actually done much research. Correct me if I’m wrong here.

    1. The “C” on the Reds. Who had that first, Reds or Indians?
    2. Um, Paul Brown.
    3. Bengals colors. I know we have Brown and Orange, but cmon, Black and Orange (I think Paul Brown brought those)?
    4. Toothbrush lighting Great American Ballpark…
    5. Paul Brown stadium kinda looks like Cleveland Stadium.

    Am I being really picky? Maybe I just hate the “Natti”[/quote]

    First of all, it’s spelled Cincinnati. (3n’s, 3i’s,2 c’s and 1 t !)

    The reds and the use of “C” on their uniforms dates back 1869 when they were founded. The wishbone “C” later. Naturally the Capital letter of the city doesn’t have ownership.

    I think Paul Brown and picking the colors black and orange, may go all the way back to the Masillion (probably spelled wrong since it’s on the other end of the state and don’t care anyway.) High School Tigers ? where he got his start.

    I think I also remember reading somewhere P.B. wanted to use the same colors are the Brownies to stick to Art Modell somehow.

    Also there were previous Cincinnati Bengals (not Bangals) football teams as someone already mentioned.

  • Tim | August 16, 2006 at 1:46 pm |

    On the subject of Pedro’s gloves, I saw a picture of him in a spring training workout wearing a bright orange glove. It was amazing, I can’t find the picture now though. I wish he could use it in games.

  • StevenWyder | August 16, 2006 at 1:49 pm |

    Is it just me or are there tiger stripes in the metallic of the throwback helmets?

    As we know from a previous Uni Watch page 2 article on football helmet decals. The Bengals helmet is apparently painted using a stencil or pattern (Paul please correct me if I’m wrong). So the throwback helmets were probably painted orange leaving a fade or trace of the stripes.

  • JohnnyBoy | August 16, 2006 at 2:04 pm |

    The Bears’ “parking cone” orange jerseys are hideous. And they will be forever immortalized due to this site and Nathan Vasher’s 108-yard run.

  • Ben | August 16, 2006 at 2:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”5607″]The biggest problem with Joe Morgan? He’s his own biggest fan.[/quote]
    I have no idea what you guys are talking about. i love listening to Jon and Joe on Sundays because of the amazing chemistry that they have in the booth. Plus, Joe is a HOFer and has a way of explaining different plays throughout the game so that even non-baseball fans can understand the reasoning and/or strategy behind each decision.

  • Cork | August 16, 2006 at 2:30 pm |

    Does anybody have a copy of the new BABE RUTH biography “The Big Bam”? Would love if someone could scan and email me a copy of the photo of a young Babe holding a right-handed catchers mitt. Even the author didnt notice the left-handed babe was wearing a right-handed mitt.

    Thanks!
    Cork
    raysindex@gmail.com

  • Greg | August 16, 2006 at 2:36 pm |

    The Bengals’ unis have grown on me. Like Paul has said, it is a little annoying that they can’t get the underarm whites to be the same on every jersey, but for that I primarily blame Reebok. But I love the use of negative space on the shoulders, from a design point of view, that’s fantastic. The biggest problem I have with the unis is the pant stripe. Reebok has been trying too hard to use the pointed stripe for EVERYONE with little success. (originated in the NFL by Nike with the Broncos and Panthers to my recollection, but you could argue that the Chargers were first) The stripes on the Bengals’ pants are too awkward. It just looks like graduated tick marks rather than real tiger stripes like the previous uni did. And why the white at the top of the pants? Isn’t there enough on the jersey?

    Let’s not even get into the black-on-black bodysuits or the orange monstrosities!

    Funny anecdote: at first glance, I thought this guy was an amputee!

  • Richard | August 16, 2006 at 2:37 pm |

    [quote comment=”5630″]Is it just my imagination or is there a bigger proportion of black gloves made to fit the right hand (i. e. for left-handed throwers)? I’m a lefty and have always had a black glove, all the way back to the mid-1980s. Never had an earth-toned one though my right-handed friends all did.

    Probably just coincidence.[/quote]

    As a left-hander, I have a brown glove, and have had one for a few years.

    Mizuno has a couple of models: for one

  • Tim Mc | August 16, 2006 at 2:51 pm |

    New SI cover with some major logo creep, along with the new Ohio State Unis. At first count i find 16 of our favorite logo, and thats with the mailing address covering the bottom left of the cover.

  • Tim Mc | August 16, 2006 at 2:53 pm |

    hmm…apparently theres 6 different covers, each with plenty of logo creep

    Czech it out

  • Richard | August 16, 2006 at 3:05 pm |

    and 5 out of 6 have Nike unis, with Notre Dame being the lone Adidas wearer.

  • Mediocre Joe | August 16, 2006 at 3:06 pm |

    Joe’s fans have put up a great website for those who want to keep up with Joe’s views on all things baseball. Check it out!

  • J-Rob | August 16, 2006 at 3:13 pm |

    [quote comment=”5640″][quote comment=”5609″]Is it me or does Cincinatti steal all their ideas from Cleveland Sports? I haven’t been around long enough, or actually done much research. Correct me if I’m wrong here.

    1. The “C” on the Reds. Who had that first, Reds or Indians?
    2. Um, Paul Brown.
    3. Bengals colors. I know we have Brown and Orange, but cmon, Black and Orange (I think Paul Brown brought those)?
    4. Toothbrush lighting Great American Ballpark…
    5. Paul Brown stadium kinda looks like Cleveland Stadium.

    Am I being really picky? Maybe I just hate the “Natti”[/quote]

    First of all, it’s spelled Cincinnati. (3n’s, 3i’s,2 c’s and 1 t !)

    The reds and the use of “C” on their uniforms dates back 1869 when they were founded. The wishbone “C” later. Naturally the Capital letter of the city doesn’t have ownership.

    I think Paul Brown and picking the colors black and orange, may go all the way back to the Masillion (probably spelled wrong since it’s on the other end of the state and don’t care anyway.) High School Tigers ? where he got his start.

    I think I also remember reading somewhere P.B. wanted to use the same colors are the Brownies to stick to Art Modell somehow.

    Also there were previous Cincinnati Bengals (not Bangals) football teams as someone already mentioned.[/quote]

    I know both teams used the wishbone “C”. I think that’s a little different then a regular “C” they both also shared. One team stole the others idea for the wishbone. I just assumed it was Cinci.

  • Harry Caray | August 16, 2006 at 3:19 pm |

    This just in: The Cubs will go back to putting the players’ names on the back of their home jerseys next season. Len and Bob announced this during the Cubs-Astros game.

  • Joe Hilseberg | August 16, 2006 at 3:36 pm |

    Completely off topic, but if anyone wants The Denver Broncos Font…there it is.

  • Mike | August 16, 2006 at 3:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”5652″]hmm…apparently theres 6 different covers, each with plenty of logo creep

    Czech it out[/quote]

    I had subscribed to SI for 11 years until recently. One thing I hated were these regional covers! Just make one damn cover!! Seriously.

  • Alex | August 16, 2006 at 3:51 pm |

    Mesa’s purple glove has to be the worst case of “equipment matching” I’ve ever seen, period.

  • Brandon | August 16, 2006 at 3:52 pm |

    [quote comment=”5660″][quote comment=”5652″]hmm…apparently theres 6 different covers, each with plenty of logo creep

    Czech it out[/quote]

    I had subscribed to SI for 11 years until recently. One thing I hated were these regional covers! Just make one damn cover!! Seriously.[/quote]

    Whats even worse is i am from NJ and i have to get the WVU editon

  • CubsFanBudMan | August 16, 2006 at 4:05 pm |

    Cubs “From the Cubicle” notes that Cubs rookie starter Ryan O’Malley is missing the apostophe on his uniform.

    Scroll down to eighth inning

    He was a last-minute call-up after the 18-inning game… but I think it makes a case for leaving the rest of the name off the homes. If they can’t get it right on the roads…

  • Sal Fansanos Mustache | August 16, 2006 at 4:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”5601″][quote comment=”5600″]F.P. Santangelo is the color guy for Giants games??? That is hilarious! Now I have more reasons to laugh at the Giants, in addition to Bonds, Jon Miller, their aged lineup, and the Dodgers’ recent sweep of them.[/quote]

    how can you not like jon miller…hes the premier play-by-play guy in baseball…nothing better than the sunday night game with him and Joe morgan[/quote]

    Im a huuuuge yankee fan, and I cant remember the last sunday night yankee game on espn where Joe Morgan didnt compare the yankees to the big red machine, with him of course the big red machine the advantage in whatever category they was talking about. Joe Morgan would argue that Riverfront Stadium had more history than Yankee Stadium if the topic ever came up. Also if John Miller spanish, cause whenever he pronounces a spanish players name he over does it a bit.

  • Chris | August 16, 2006 at 4:32 pm |

    Anybody own any Mike Piazza Memoribilia or Jerseys? Send me an Email at bounceoffdawallz@hotmail.com. I’m Interested in them.
    Chris
    Thanks Guys..

  • Matthew | August 16, 2006 at 4:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”5654″]Joe’s fans have put up a great website for those who want to keep up with Joe’s views on all things baseball. Check it out![/quote]

    I’ve been reading that website all afternoon….simply hilarious. Good commentary too on the idiocy of certain sports reporters.

  • Andrew F | August 16, 2006 at 4:43 pm |

    [quote comment=”5630″]Is it just my imagination or is there a bigger proportion of black gloves made to fit the right hand (i. e. for left-handed throwers)? I’m a lefty and have always had a black glove, all the way back to the mid-1980s. Never had an earth-toned one though my right-handed friends all did.

    Probably just coincidence.[/quote]

    I’m lefty, so let me take a look… my 2 softball catcher’s mitts are dark brown and light tan, my outfield glove is tan, my baseball catcher’s mitt is a very dark brown (but not black), my infield glove is black, and my first baseman’s mitt is tan. I’m debating on what color catcher’s mitt to go with next year, but I think two-tone (although both natural colors) are in order.

  • Andrew F | August 16, 2006 at 4:44 pm |

    http://img434.images... more from the argyle hockey front..

  • Chuck Ryals | August 16, 2006 at 6:10 pm |

    [quote comment=”5596″]I think the Bengals would have some of the best jerseys in the league if they got rid of the white stripe down the side (that even extends down to the pants stripe, which would look better with just the black and orange stripes. no white). I know Paul reported that the reason was to resemble the white patch on a href=”http://www.luxuryindiantravel.com/images/luxury-indian-tours/royal-bengal-tiger.jpg”>real tigers.
    My take: looks great on the animal, terrible on the football team.[/quote]
    I agree, the white stripe down the side is what ruins the jersey, Vikings also. Bengals helmets look good to me. GO BROWNS!

  • Brian | August 16, 2006 at 6:13 pm |

    paul Brown chose the Brown and Orange for the Browns because he liked the look of Bowling Green’s color scheme. I never heard anything about him using orange and black for the Bengals based on Massilon’s colors, but that seems like a logical answer.

    I also hate Joe Morgan calling ballgames, but that is a totally unrelated topic.

  • Tom O'Grady | August 16, 2006 at 6:53 pm |

    This just in: The Cubs will go back to putting the playersÂ’ names on the back of their home jerseys next season. Len and Bob announced this during the Cubs-Astros game

    Sorry but had that exclusive through MLB Office sighting a month ago Harry.

    And the O’Connor apsthrophe mistake only supports the fun and legitimacy of having names on the back of unis…otherwise its a generic Cubs blank jersey. I mean give up the arguement already.
    Names rock…
    CubsFanBudMan…
    T.

  • Tom O'Grady | August 16, 2006 at 6:57 pm |

    Paul-
    Blogging on my Treo from the runway at Knoxville Airport… this is so cool…Tennessee Vols in line for an identity change…
    Hmmm.
    T

  • Blue-Eyed Monster | August 16, 2006 at 7:57 pm |

    Link to picture of the apostrophe-less O’Malley jersey.

  • Brett | August 16, 2006 at 8:58 pm |

    As a life-long Phillies fan, I swear I remember Bobby Abreu wearing a gray glove on the road, to match the Phillies gray unis, which is strange, because apparently gray gloves shouldn’t be allowed.

    After much searching, I’ve come up with this and this. They look gray to me

    If there’s any evidence of his Yankees away glove, I’d be interested to see it

  • Brian | August 16, 2006 at 8:58 pm |

    [quote comment=”5578″][quote comment=”5574″]The YES announcers commented during yesterdays game the Randy Johnson just switched gloves from a black model to a basic brown. T
    hey went on to comment how David Wells used a new glove for every Yankees start, and auctioned each one off to charity. Imagine breaking in a new glove all the time like that?
    Maybe he used it to hold his beers in between starts[/quote]

    The gloves that major leaguers get are pretty much broken in when they get them. They’re made with the good leather so they dont need the whole Neatsfoot Oil and rubber band treatment.[/quote]
    No no no! Good leather is HARD when you get it. Rey Ordoñez’s gloves were very hard. All that pre-broken-in stuff degrades like crazy, and can’t stay still enough for a major leaguer.

  • Jared | August 16, 2006 at 9:11 pm |

    [quote comment=”5613″]Anyone else noticed David Ortiz’s off-center helmet logo. Also, Wily Mo Pena’s recent hitting tear appears to be credited to his choice of non-matching batting gloves.[/quote]

    He’s been doing this for quite a while. When he was with the Reds ….

  • sportability | August 16, 2006 at 9:22 pm |

    [quote comment=”5600″]F.P. Santangelo is the color guy for Giants games??? That is hilarious! Now I have more reasons to laugh at the Giants, in addition to Bonds, Jon Miller, their aged lineup, and the Dodgers’ recent sweep of them.[/quote]
    FP was subbing in for Mike Krukow who was out for family leave of some sort; FP is the sometimes pregame guy and the standard TV fill in (when there’s a vacancy) for the Giants on Fox Bay Area, taking the spot of Bip Roberts who had done it in the past.

  • sportability | August 16, 2006 at 9:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”5665″][Is Jon] Miller spanish, cause whenever he pronounces a spanish players name he over does it a bit.[/quote]

    I think he’s bilingual, altho I couldn’t find confirmation in a quick google. He is definitely one of those over-preparers who asks every player how they like to have their name pronounced; he has in the past reflected during quiet moments on players with hispanic looking names who prefer anglo pronounciations, etc. I’d bet that he gets it right more than he gets it wrong.

  • sportability | August 16, 2006 at 9:30 pm |

    Paul – sorry to use a false name; wasn’t hiding… Steve P from Oakland, CA. I’ve written you a few times previously regarding UC Berkeley’s asymmetrical football helmets during the late 80s, early 90s (under Snyder and maybe Gilbertson the script Cal was on the right side only to ensure that the Cal was always reading forwards) and a few other random details.

  • Mr. Met | August 16, 2006 at 9:37 pm |

    How funny that a self-proclaimed huuuuuuuge Yankees fan spells Sal Fasano‘s name incorrectly. I’m sure his mustache is pissed. That being said, until I went onto that Joe Morgan website, I never realized how much Joe speaks yet never really says anything.

    That clip of Michael Kay killing that idiot caller was hilarious, if only because apparently the ESPN-1050 version of Kay is a totally different version of the YES-Network Kay. When Kay questioned whether he was supposed to sit there and cheer for Wang to pitch a perfect game, I thought, isn’t that in your YES contract? I’ve never heard him so passionate about something that wasn’t pro-Yankee. Kudos to him.

  • Steve Prudente | August 16, 2006 at 9:59 pm |

    I went to the movies today and noticed a logo creep in the preview for the new movie “Gridiron Gang.”

    It appears that both teams in the movie will be wearing uniforms made by Underarmor. You can view the trailer here. The logos start appearing around 1:45.

  • Steve Prudente | August 16, 2006 at 10:07 pm |

    Sorry, link didn’t work, hopefully this one does.

  • Steve Prudente | August 16, 2006 at 10:17 pm |

    [quote comment=”5678″]As a life-long Phillies fan, I swear I remember Bobby Abreu wearing a gray glove on the road, to match the Phillies gray unis, which is strange, because apparently gray gloves shouldn’t be allowed.

    After much searching, I’ve come up with this and this. They look gray to me

    If there’s any evidence of his Yankees away glove, I’d be interested to see it[/quote]

    Gray gloves are only prohibited for use by pitchers, at least as far as I know.

  • Brett | August 16, 2006 at 11:20 pm |

    yeah, i re-read the rule, and it does say pitchers only. they should be prohibited for players, cause it always looked like abreu had a slab of concrete on his hand (which it could have been, considering lack of fielding prowess)

  • xcalubur | August 16, 2006 at 11:52 pm |

    the bobcats just unveiled their alternate uniforms. i didn’t think they could get any uglier than the regular road uniforms, but i guess i was wrong.

    http://www.nba.com/b...

  • Andrew F. | August 17, 2006 at 12:12 am |

    Ok, kinda random, but I was watching the LLWS softball championship game, and #6 on one of the teams (they were both wearing green, but it was wither MI or NJ) was biting her jersey WHILE SHE WAS SWINGING. No screen shot, and I have no idea if there’s pictures anywhere of this game. But yeah, it’s a problem, someone has to teach these girls…

  • timbo | August 17, 2006 at 12:22 am |

    I don’t know how calling a girl a Bengal came about because both the Uni’s and helmets are ugly but I’ve heard it used to describe a girl with a nice uniform (body) but a ugly helmet (face)

  • Brandon Davis | August 17, 2006 at 12:25 am |

    Kenji Johjima of the Seattle Mariners wears a red glove, suprirsed nobody mentioned that, no rule on the pitcher’s battery mate i suppose.

    Example 1 and 2.

    You can also add Johjima to the list of players who puts his name on his catcher’s gear. The second photo looks like it’s from Johjima’s playing days in Japan so he is probably still using the same glove. Horrible logo creep on the shin guards too.

  • Kevin Bryant | August 17, 2006 at 12:34 am |

    You should perhaps when linking to geocities sites use coralcache: just append .nyud.net:8080 to the host name and the link will be distributed and not take out the geocities page. For instance:

    http://www.geocities...

    If it was linked to only via coral cache it would still be available for people to see (see: here)

  • Raul | August 17, 2006 at 3:37 am |

    You’ve gotta remember that the best throwbacks of 94 went to the 49ers, who wore them all season after getting beat down by the Eagles on Monday night in their regular unis. They wore the throwbacks all the way to the Super bowl.

    http://www.superbowl...

  • Mark in Shiga | August 17, 2006 at 4:39 am |

    [quote comment=”5701″]2 The second photo looks like it’s from Johjima’s playing days in Japan so he is probably still using the same glove. Horrible logo creep on the shin guards too.[/quote]

    That photo is from when he played for Jaan’s national team. You can tell because of the extra-wide space between pinstripes; Japan’s uniforms were very distinctive.

  • Greg | August 17, 2006 at 4:53 am |

    Actually, I think the Bobcats’ new alts look quite good.. Dark, classy colors with a splash of orange in a shape that’s common and traditional, but unique enough. I say well done.

  • Mike Miller | August 17, 2006 at 8:01 am |

    Yeah, there were only 10 teams in the softball world series, you would think they could come up with 10 colors that contrast better. I think one team was forest green and one was kelly green. If the players stood side by side, you could kind of tell the difference.

    The third baseman for one of the teams was wearing something similar to a catcher’s mask in the field. The commentator said that it was just for protection, there was no injury it was covering.

  • Mike Miller | August 17, 2006 at 8:07 am |

    Also, I hadn’t noticed it before, but doesn’t the tongue in the logo of the Dutch National Soccer team look a bit similar to a certain uniform provider that furnishes their uniforms?

    Dutch Soccer Web Site

  • Mike Miller | August 17, 2006 at 8:09 am |
  • CubsFanBudMan | August 17, 2006 at 9:14 am |

    [quote comment=”5674″]This just in: The Cubs will go back to putting the playersÂ’ names on the back of their home jerseys next season. Len and Bob announced this during the Cubs-Astros game

    Sorry but had that exclusive through MLB Office sighting a month ago Harry.

    And the O’Connor apsthrophe mistake only supports the fun and legitimacy of having names on the back of unis…otherwise its a generic Cubs blank jersey. I mean give up the arguement already.
    Names rock…
    CubsFanBudMan…
    T.[/quote]

    T-dot… I wasn’t serious. And it’s O’Malley, not O’Connor. So much for the names on the back helping Cubs fans to know a guy’s name (and as you pointed out, especially the ‘no-name minor leaguers.’) Hmmm…

  • a arauz | August 17, 2006 at 9:25 am |

    [quote comment=”5697″]the bobcats just unveiled their alternate uniforms. i didn’t think they could get any uglier than the regular road uniforms, but i guess i was wrong.

    http://www.nba.com/b...
    You’re right about the ugly uniforms, but they seemed to know that because they trotted out Morrison’s hedious mug to model it and thus take the attention off the cheesy uniforms

  • Nick | August 17, 2006 at 4:13 pm |

    I’ve noticed David Riske wearing a greyish looking glove for the White Sox recently. You can see a picture here…

    Link Name

  • Tom O'Grady | August 23, 2006 at 4:37 pm |

    T-dot… I wasn’t serious. And it’s O’Malley, not O’Connor.

    So much for the names on the back helping Cubs fans to know a guy’s name (and as you pointed out, especially the ‘no-name minor leaguers.’) Hmmm…

    and yes… you’re serious… you’re in serious need of help.

    FYI- O’Whogivesashit is now on the 60 day DL so again the point is proven. Cubs need their name on the back of their jerseys.

    Back to the CC Forums for you.

    T.

  • Tom O'Grady | August 23, 2006 at 4:38 pm |

    Actually, I think the Bobcats’ new alts look quite good.. Dark, classy colors with a splash of orange in a shape that’s common and traditional, but unique enough. I say well done.

    Agreed.

    T.

  • Tom O'Grady | August 23, 2006 at 4:40 pm |

    Cubs “From the Cubicle” notes that Cubs rookie starter Ryan O’Malley is missing the apostophe on his uniform.

    Scroll down to eighth inning

    He was a last-minute call-up after the 18-inning game… but I think it makes a case for leaving the rest of the name off the homes. If they can’t get it right on the roads…

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  • brandon | May 20, 2007 at 10:00 pm |

    i like joe morgan, i don’t care what anyone say. and south carolina’s new football uniforms are the worst thing i’ve ever seen. thanks to underarmor for ruining another program with decent tradition