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Alas, Poor Yorick Admirals Fans

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New ESPN column today. Here‘s the link.

Meanwhile: Minor league baseball and hockey teams revise their unis all the time, and for the most part nobody cares. But I received several dozen e-mails yesterday about the AHL’s Milwaukee Admirals, who just unveiled their new logo and jersey, much to the apparent displeasure of many Cream City residents. A poll on the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel‘s web site finds anti-logo sentiment running at over 70%.

Now, the Admirals’ previous logo and jersey were nothing special. But the new design isn’t exactly an improvement. Has there ever been a weaker, more characterless skull rendition than this one? And there are so many creative ways you can depict a skull — check out, for example, the composite skull being used to promote the current horror flick The Descent. Couldn’t the Admirals have done something like that, only with toothless, steroid-pumped hockey players instead of nubile young actresses with heart-shaped asses? Would’ve worked perfectly!

Yesterday there was a hilarious video on the Admirals’ web site, trying to explain the “story” behind the new logo. Unfortunately, they seem to have taken it down today, but as Nicole Haase points out, “It’s not good when you need an explanation to understand a logo.”

Best comment, from Gordon Reid: “I’m not quite sure if I like it or not, but I do have the sudden urge to go to Long John Silver’s.”

Internal Affairs Dept.: Over the past few days, the comments section has gotten bogged down with personal invective. I won’t go into specifics; the people who’ve engaged in this know who they are. I don’t care who started it and I don’t care who’s more at fault than whom — I just want it to stop. If you have a problem with someone else, either e-mail them privately or, better yet, take the high road and ignore them; if you have a problem with me or with the site, e-mail me privately. Good rule of thumb: If you have to ask yourself whether the comment you’re about to post is appropriate, it probably isn’t. Let’s please keep things uni-related, and save any personal attacks for some other forum. Thanks.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Reebok has created a special “VY” logo for Vince Young, which he’s been wearing on his wristband. According to this article, “soon fans will be able to buy shirts, hats and just about everything else imaginable with the VY logo on it.” Oh boy. (Thanks to Thomas Courtman for the link.) … Good catch by Victor Vilaplana: “On July 23rd, the Padres wore AIDS awareness ribbons during their game against the Giants. When they wore those same blue alternate jerseys on August 1st, the ribbons had been removed but there was some glue residue, which made most of the Padres look like they spit up on their shoulders.” … Remember Ted Lilly’s “DJM” cap inscription, which he refused to explain? It had disappeared for a few games, but it was back last night, at least for the game’s first few innings. Lilly must have changed caps at some point, because later in the game his headwear was inscription-free. … Several readers have checked in with reports of a segment that aired last night on the NFL Network’s NFL Total Access show. Apparently the on-field officials will have new unis this season, including an increased amount of black on the jerseys (especially on the sleeves), a different uni number/position design on the rear jersey, and — get this — black slacks (not knickers) with a white stripe for cold-weather games. I don’t get the NFL Network, so if anyone recorded this show — or can manage to record a rebroadcast of it — please try to come up with some screen-grabs for us. … As many of you are aware, the Padres routinely write the starting pitcher’s uni number in the dirt at the back of the mound. This led to an odd situation last night, as described here by Jean Lefebvre: “When Brandon Backe came out for the bottom of the 1st, he inscribed his No. 41 to the right of Woody Williams’ No. 17. Top of the second, Backe’s number was rubbed out by Williams. At this point Backe gave up.” … Ethan Rowley and Brian Kerr both wrote in last night to say that Albert Pujols appeared to have something written on the back of his jersey, to the left of his uni number. I looked, but I don’t see it. Anyone..?

 

143 comments to Alas, Poor Yorick Admirals Fans

  • anthony | August 3, 2006 at 7:36 am |

    I kind of like that Admirals’ logo. I think its a big improvement over the previous logo and jersey. I’m kind of surprised that Paul doesn’t like it since he tends to support logos that are more simplistic. But I guess I was wrong

  • Jonathan | August 3, 2006 at 7:59 am |

    The Woody Williams/Brandon Backe numbers-in-the dirt thing is HILLARIOUS!!! It only would have been better if Backe had come out for the bottom of the 2nd and scratched out Williams #17. Could a beanball war been started by less??

  • MattP | August 3, 2006 at 8:05 am |

    Breaking purple news:

    Raptors enter the land of respectability (yeah, it’s Mo Pete’s myspace page, go figure):

    New Raptors Jerseys

  • Michael Maurino | August 3, 2006 at 8:14 am |

    Milwaukee would have been better trying to look like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers skull. My problem is the Bucs are pirates (and criminals), where an admiral is supposed to be a man of honor. That’s more of an issue to me than the lopsided eyes and detached jaw.

  • Gregg | August 3, 2006 at 8:37 am |

    [quote comment=”4081″]Breaking purple news:

    Raptors enter the land of respectability (yeah, it’s Mo Pete’s myspace page, go figure):

    New Raptors Jerseys[/quote]

    Isn’t Mr. Peterson posign with the old NBA ball? Hmm…

  • Gregg | August 3, 2006 at 8:38 am |

    [quote comment=”4082″]Milwaukee would have been better trying to look like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers skull. My problem is the Bucs are pirates (and criminals), where an admiral is supposed to be a man of honor. That’s more of an issue to me than the lopsided eyes and detached jaw.[/quote]

    Agreed 100%. What the heck does a skull have to do with an admiral?

  • Lalitree | August 3, 2006 at 8:42 am |

    Huh. Just now seeing the new Admirals logo/jersey for the first time, and I gotta say I like it. I like the simple, modern illustrated look about it. Dare I say it’s actually kind of cute?

  • Drew | August 3, 2006 at 8:42 am |

    [quote comment=”4083″][quote comment=”4081″]Breaking purple news:

    Raptors enter the land of respectability (yeah, it’s Mo Pete’s myspace page, go figure):

    New Raptors Jerseys[/quote]

    Isn’t Mr. Peterson posign with the old NBA ball? Hmm…[/quote]

    It’s actually Chris Bosh.

  • Kevin | August 3, 2006 at 8:51 am |

    I don’t mind the logo, it’s the black as the main color that is annoying. I don’t really get the connect between the pirate skull and an admiral either though.

  • paul | August 3, 2006 at 8:53 am |

    My guess for the “brick red” mystery is the Cincinatti Reds. We’ve already heard they’ll be replacing the black with navy, and a darker red looks nice with navy blue. Plus, Mr. O’Grady alluded to the phasing out of sleeveless jerseys.

    Regardless of who’s doing it, it should be a nice change. Brick RedBurgundy/Maroon is the one color that’s missing from MLB teams (as a primary color).

  • Brandon T. | August 3, 2006 at 8:55 am |

    Why do the Padres inscribe the pitcher’s number on the mound? Is this something done by the grounds crew or the pitcher or what? Never heard of it before.

    BT

  • Andy Head | August 3, 2006 at 8:55 am |

    I really like the Admirals new jerseys, but I agree that the logo doesn’t really fit very well. The skull kinda reminds me of some old cartoon I used to watch, but I can’t put my finger on what it was… anyone else?

  • paul | August 3, 2006 at 8:55 am |

    Cincinatti = Cincinnati sorry

  • paul | August 3, 2006 at 8:57 am |

    [quote comment=”4090″]I really like the Admirals new jerseys, but I agree that the logo doesn’t really fit very well. The skull kinda reminds me of some old cartoon I used to watch, but I can’t put my finger on what it was… anyone else?[/quote]
    The skeleton from the “Beetlejuice” cartoon with the French accent?

  • Nicole | August 3, 2006 at 8:58 am |

    I posted this in yesterday’s comments, but basically a lot of the Admirals players will be in the NHL this year, so they’re saying their working with a skeleton crew – thus the new logo.

    And he apparently is an Admiral, but he’s an Admiral of a ghost ship.

    Clearly.

  • keith | August 3, 2006 at 9:04 am |

    Pujols definitely had something on the back of his jersey…i turned the game on around the 7th inning, and i saw it then. furthermore, when i saw it, the first thing i thought was, “this will be on the uni watch blog”. am i programmed, or what?

  • Andy Head | August 3, 2006 at 9:20 am |

    [quote comment=”4094″]The skeleton from the “Beetlejuice” cartoon with the French accent?[/quote]

    Yeah! Jacques, the exercising French skeleton… though, now that I look at them side-by-side, there’s not a whole lot of similarity there:

    http://www.theneithe...

  • Micah | August 3, 2006 at 9:26 am |

    That Descent skull is sweet!!! Oh yeah, I didn’t know Vince was signed to Reebok; kinda cool logo, I guess.

  • Tim from MN | August 3, 2006 at 9:33 am |

    is it just me or does the new Vince Young logo resemble the Tiger Woods one… I am talking style here not an exact match…

    http://vh10018.v1.mo...

    http://www.sportsgol...

  • Rick V | August 3, 2006 at 9:35 am |

    I cant put my finger on what that “VY” symbol reminds me of, I sort of looks like a ear of corn. Maybe its thisthe Boy Scout “Webelos” symbol.

    Also, Im against the Admirals logo for the same reasons as Michael Maurino and Greg. Admirals are not supposed to be pirates and there is a plethora of naval insignias, symbols, etc that could be drawn on to make a real nice logo for a team with that name.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | August 3, 2006 at 9:39 am |

    a. i think the new admirals logo is actually the skull of ren hoek (ren and stimpy)
    http://www-cse.ucsd....

    b. vince youngs logo. they paid someone to put that together? i think a 5 year old said, im gonna take the tiger woods logo, combine it with the makeup of a standard tree leaf and viola! whoops. im sorry, the designer had to be an old school braves fan…
    http://www.onlinespo...

  • pete | August 3, 2006 at 9:39 am |

    Vince’s logo is awfully similar to Tiger’s logo…

  • Brett | August 3, 2006 at 9:48 am |

    I think Paul touched on this in a previous posting, but the best part of the old Admirals’ jersey is the BREWERS patch.
    Also, Kudos to Brandon Backe, yes he should have wiped out Williams number (or maybe he should have written Clemens number). And it’s a good thing Backe and the Astros weren’t playing the White Sox, who knows how Ozzie Guillen would have interpretted that “unwritten” rule of wiping out the pitchers’ number from the back of the mound.

  • Brett | August 3, 2006 at 9:50 am |

    b. vince youngs logo. they paid someone to put that together? i think a 5 year old said, im gonna take the tiger woods logo, combine it with the makeup of a standard tree leaf and viola! whoops. im sorry, the designer had to be an old school braves fan…
    http://www.onlinespo...
    touche’ on the braves logo comparison

  • whiteshark17 | August 3, 2006 at 10:10 am |

    As was seen in the cool video on the Admirals website yesterday, the story is that their old original logo admiral got lost at sea so they used police sketch artists to keep updating his image for the newer logos (the Admiral did look older in each one). However, he was recently found after being trapped at the bottom of the ocean for years so he had to adapt and become a skeleton. Although I don’t mind the jersey, the logo is way too plain for a skull. My favorite detail is that on the full picture of the admiral he has a peg leg and uses his detachted skeleton leg for a stick! How cool is that?

  • DJL | August 3, 2006 at 10:17 am |

    I was just admiring how much better the University of Buffalo logo is than the Sabres logo, I know we covered it earlier, but I can’t believe a professional team would put out something so terrible.

    Anyway, the Helmet Project has a section dedicated to all the new helmets in college football this year, which can be found at the bottom of the left-hand scroll, or just click here. While the helmets are mostly in smaller Division III, I am sure helmet guru Charles Arey would appreciate the help.

  • MJE | August 3, 2006 at 10:18 am |

    I was at Browns camp yesterday and here are a few pics of the officials wearing what I can assume are the new unis that were referenced in today’s blog:

    http://s90.photobuck...

    http://s90.photobuck...

    http://s90.photobuck...

    I like them. They have a modern feel to them.

    What is the patch on the old Braves uni supposed to be?

    http://www.opengroup...(SC)Hank_Aaron_Photo

  • Robert Eden | August 3, 2006 at 10:19 am |

    Put me down as officially liking the Admirals’ new logo. A skull in an admiral’s hat? Gotta love it.

  • PDXclark | August 3, 2006 at 10:19 am |

    Before they took it down, the story on how the logo came to be was along the lines of: The old original cartoony mascot went out to sea and his ship sunk. He was then replaced by the last 3 or so logos, but now, he has resurfaced as the skeleton guy, but the cold water faded the old blue to ICE blue. But he’s back. Hence the “Never Say Die” phrase below the typeface.

    Creative, but I have to agree with whoever said that a logo shouldn’t need explaining.

  • PDXclark | August 3, 2006 at 10:22 am |

    Sorry for the repeat post above- I hadn’t refreshed in a while before posting.
    As for the Braves old sleeve- I believe its a stylized feather. That probably wouldn’t fly these days…

  • whiteshark17 | August 3, 2006 at 10:28 am |

    No problem PDX, I left out a few details and having the whole story helps. I find the whole video funny and wish they didn’t take it down.

  • Jay | August 3, 2006 at 10:28 am |

    If those are truly pics of the new NFL referee uniforms, color me unimpressed. The uneven stripes and big white number plackard on the back don’t flow very well. A zebra can’t change its stripes …

  • Kerby | August 3, 2006 at 10:34 am |

    I like the new admirals logo. It’s 10 times better than the old one with Sparty the Spartan wearing an admiral cap.

  • Mark in Shiga | August 3, 2006 at 10:36 am |

    If those are the new NFL referee jerseys, they’re hideous.

    Did they intentionally make the number tiny so that drunken angry fans can’t see who it is, look up his name, and shout abuse at him?

    There’s no reason to change the referee jerseys; they’re timeless and distinctive. I liked the typeface that they used in the 1980s (it looks a bit like what the Steelers use, only wider); maybe they could bring that back, but they’re just fine as they are.

  • Nick | August 3, 2006 at 10:36 am |

    I like the Admirals new jersey, too. Call me crazy. It’s simple. I could do without the blue strips through the text and the “never say die”, both in the logo, but the jersey is pretty simple and clean.

  • Mikey | August 3, 2006 at 10:39 am |

    1. Although i dont understand the connection between the skeleton and the maritime industry, i have to say that at least the Admirals logo isnt as bad as the islander fisherman from a few years ago. Maybe if they gave the skull a meaner disposition it would help. He looks a little sleepy eyed to me.

    2. The Mets sent Mike Pelfry to AAA norfolk yesterday and there is a rumor that it is due in part to his refusal to change his mouthguard from blue to black for the road game.

  • Matt | August 3, 2006 at 10:45 am |

    The new refs uniforms look like absolute crap. I’m getting ready to get some screen caps and I’ll e-mail them to you Paul.

  • Nicole | August 3, 2006 at 10:46 am |

    Re: Brett (comment 23)

    I’m sure the Brewers patch will return. The Brewers (and some of the players, including Ben Sheets) are sponsors.

  • Ethan R | August 3, 2006 at 10:53 am |

    I noticed the screen grab was from the FSN feed during the bottom of the 6th for Pujols. I noticed the writing during the bottom of the 9th from the ESPN feed. I don’t have the capability to do screen grabs but perhaps someone out there could help us out. I definitely know there was something there…just don’t know what. Thanks!

  • Bouj | August 3, 2006 at 10:54 am |

    The Pujols thing was pretty easy to see on Sportscenter last night (and I assume this morning). When I saw it, I thought he was wearing a signed jersey. Maybe it was just some black mark.

  • Pat | August 3, 2006 at 10:59 am |

    I literally laughed out loud when I saw the MIlwaukee logo. HI-larious.

  • Jeff | August 3, 2006 at 11:01 am |

    Sorry if this is mentioned. But Uni Watch made it into the NCAA 2007 football game. Shanoff in the Daily Quickie on ESPN has a link to the picture where UNI WATCH is mentioned.

    Quickie Mention

    (hopefully i linked it right.)

  • Lincoln | August 3, 2006 at 11:15 am |

    [quote comment=”4114″]Before they took it down, the story on how the logo came to be was along the lines of: The old original cartoony mascot went out to sea and his ship sunk. He was then replaced by the last 3 or so logos, but now, he has resurfaced as the skeleton guy, but the cold water faded the old blue to ICE blue. But he’s back. Hence the “Never Say Die” phrase below the typeface.[quote]

    That has got to be the worst idea ever to make a logo. Also, the phrase “Never Say Die”, wasn’t that the White Sox marketing pitch last year?

  • Scott Held | August 3, 2006 at 11:24 am |

    I was out covering Lions camp this morning and one of the officials in town was wearing a new-fangled jersey. There are no photographs allowed after individual drills, so I couldn’t shoot it. Wonder if anyone has heard anything similar around camps?

    Scott Held
    Grosse Pointe Park, Mich.

  • Paul P | August 3, 2006 at 11:25 am |

    Is it me, or do the new NFL ref uniform remind you of this version of the Juventus uniform?

    Juventus

  • Paul Lukas | August 3, 2006 at 11:30 am |

    OK, I’ve now seen the entire video showing the new NFL ref unis, and holy shit are they awful. Full details tomorrow.

  • Matt | August 3, 2006 at 11:35 am |

    Paul P, if by Juventus you mean something my dog crapped out on his walk this morning…then yes, I agree.

  • Matthew BUtch | August 3, 2006 at 11:35 am |

    THOSE are the new referee uniforms? Ugh. They look hideous. Way too much black. I don’t like the thin strips on the centers and the thick black on the shoulders and sleeves. The black shorts look dumb, and the numbers are way to small. Go back to the old traditional style, it looks much better. Now they look like soccer refs- ugh.

  • B. Minich | August 3, 2006 at 11:36 am |

    What the . . . ?

    The colors aren’t bad, but the skull leaves something to be desired. It just looks like a weak skull. If you’re going to have a skull, it should look at least a BIT scary.

    Also, I find it weird that the slogan “Never say die” is associated with a very dead thing – a skull. Kind of a weird standard on that one. (“Never say die . . . kinda like this dead head bone we have here. Or something. Never mind, just ignore us. The logo and slogan people never talk here. We just stare at each other and slash each other’s tires.”)

  • JTH | August 3, 2006 at 11:51 am |

    [quote comment=”4130″]Also, the phrase “Never Say Die”, wasn’t that the White Sox marketing pitch last year?[/quote]
    No. It’s Win. Or Die Trying.

    And on an unrelated note, I LOVED the Bucks’ alternate jerseys that Paul derided in today’s Page 2 column.

  • Drew | August 3, 2006 at 11:54 am |

    In regards to the possibility of a black underbill, this may become every player’s best friend:
    Silver Sharpie

  • Vic | August 3, 2006 at 12:00 pm |

    As someone from Milwaukee, i think the new Ad’s stuff is stupid. And the new ref’s gear looks like something from Judge Dredd.

  • Vic | August 3, 2006 at 12:05 pm |

    And I’m with JTH the green bucks alternate jersey was sick.

  • Brooks Reuter | August 3, 2006 at 12:09 pm |

    I don’t mind the Admiral’s new uniforms, I do agree that the skull could use a little work. Something like this might have looked a little better. However it could be worse, they could have chose this.

  • Paul P | August 3, 2006 at 12:18 pm |

    Brooks Reuter, you get a standing ovation for that effort!

  • JTH | August 3, 2006 at 12:34 pm |

    [quote comment=”4145″]However it could be worse, they could have chose this.[/quote]
    That rules.

    David Robinson should join the Brewers players in the team sponsorship thing and they can make that their alternate jersey.

  • a arauz | August 3, 2006 at 12:38 pm |

    LOL Brooks…. very funny, almost as funny as picturing robinson on skates!

    It’s great that we’re on the Admiral’s case over the new logo/uniform–but while we’re on the case, can we address the team nickname? I mean, what gives? Is there a naval base in wisconsin or was there a famous Jutland type naval battle fought versus the canadians on Lake Michigan or something? Someone clue me in.

  • Jim | August 3, 2006 at 12:48 pm |

    Wow, those NFL referee uniforms are ugly. I don’t see what was wrong with them before. With the exception of the stripes themselves, it was nice having referee uniforms consistent through most levels of football in this country.

    Then again, maybe these are special training camp uniforms. Teams have special practice jerseys, so why not the officials as well? Something a little lighter to wear during the brutal heat everyone is experiencing right now.

    I think I’ve seen referees wear black shorts in training camp in the past. I know that referees wear black shorts during the NBA summer league games too.

  • Bill | August 3, 2006 at 12:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”4148″]LOL Brooks…. very funny, almost as funny as picturing robinson on skates!

    It’s great that we’re on the Admiral’s case over the new logo/uniform–but while we’re on the case, can we address the team nickname? I mean, what gives? Is there a naval base in wisconsin or was there a famous Jutland type naval battle fought versus the canadians on Lake Michigan or something? Someone clue me in.[/quote]

    I agree – especially since there are 2 teams in the AHL called the “Admirals” – Milwaukee and Hampton Roads.

  • nybatt | August 3, 2006 at 1:07 pm |

    uni idiots???

    who is the genius that decided the blue jays should wear their black high school tops today, in the bronx… ambient temp. is 95.. heat index over 105… is it possible the jays traveled without their road grays???

    ahhhh, the novelty of black alternates……

  • Brooks Reuter | August 3, 2006 at 1:08 pm |

    Thank you, thank you… I will be here all week, please don’t forget to tip your bartenders.

  • nybatt | August 3, 2006 at 1:14 pm |

    make that 97 degrees in the bronx… 110 in the sun, on the field…

    “be sure to wear loose fitting, light colored clothing”….. so much for uni wisdom!!

  • AP | August 3, 2006 at 1:20 pm |

    I happen to have that Tracy McGrady Raptors jersey with the giant raptor on it. I happen to think the ugliness makes it spectacular. Something about the 90s inspired the NBA to put giant animal logos on their jerseys (Raptors, Bucks, Grizzlies, and my personal favorite, the hawks jersey with the giant hawk stretched accross the front)

  • JTH | August 3, 2006 at 1:27 pm |

    [quote comment=”4150″][quote comment=”4148″]LOL Brooks…. very funny, almost as funny as picturing robinson on skates!

    It’s great that we’re on the Admiral’s case over the new logo/uniform–but while we’re on the case, can we address the team nickname? I mean, what gives? Is there a naval base in wisconsin or was there a famous Jutland type naval battle fought versus the canadians on Lake Michigan or something? Someone clue me in.[/quote]

    I agree – especially since there are 2 teams in the AHL called the “Admirals” – Milwaukee and Hampton Roads.[/quote]
    Actually, they’re the Norfolk Admirals now. And not only do they have to suffer the indignity of sharing a nickname with another team — they’re also the Blackhawks’ top affiliate. (The Hampton Roads Admirals played in the ECHL.)

    And according to this page, here’s how the Milwaukee Admirals got their name:

    “The original owner, Reed Fansher—sold team to Edwin J. Merar. Merar renamed the team ‘The Admirals’ after appliances he sold in his store”

  • Josh W | August 3, 2006 at 1:29 pm |

    [quote comment=”4129″]Sorry if this is mentioned. But Uni Watch made it into the NCAA 2007 football game. Shanoff in the Daily Quickie on ESPN has a link to the picture where UNI WATCH is mentioned.

    Quickie Mention

    (hopefully i linked it right.)[/quote]

    Here’s
    the picture i believe you’re talking about

  • JohnnyBoy | August 3, 2006 at 1:45 pm |

    When did the Admirals go from playing hockey to being a Saturday morning cartoon? Serioulsy, the attempt at necromancy is hillarious.

    On a side note, in college we used to drink a cheap knockoff of Captain Morgan called Admiral Nelson. It didn’t go down well, much like that lazy eyed bonehead.

  • nybatt | August 3, 2006 at 1:50 pm |

    yankee TV play-by-play man michael kay just commented on the “sartorial decision” of the blue jay equipment manager for choosing black tops today in the heat…

    unfortunately after that jim kaat proposed that the jays wear black on “getaway days”… even though they have worn the black the first two games of this series…

  • Drew | August 3, 2006 at 1:53 pm |

    On a topic commented on the other day, the Yankees website now has a new picture of Sal Fasano with his NY trimmed moustache. He kinda looks like The Stranger from “The Big Lebowski.”

  • Smail | August 3, 2006 at 1:57 pm |

    This is how a skull on a hockey jersey is supposed to look! It’s the San Cristobal College Pirates, in case you were wondering.

  • Matt | August 3, 2006 at 2:02 pm |

    With regards to the black Blue Jays uniforms… I remember a Mets broadcast a few years ago (probably 98 or 99 when the Mets blacks were new) the announcers were talking about how the material that the black uniforms were made of were cooler than the uniforms the grey uniforms were made of (the were playing in Florida)… it could be the same concept…

  • Jeff | August 3, 2006 at 2:02 pm |

    The Admirals logo reminds me of Grim from “the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy” on the Cartoon Network.

    Grim

  • Paul | August 3, 2006 at 2:06 pm |

    Interesting Article
    Read it here
    I think think of a better way of sending someone a message than by giving away that person’s uni number.
    [quote]Jose Mourinho is taking a hard line over William Gallas, whose Chelsea future looks increasingly in doubt with Michael Ballack being given the No13 shirt that the French defender has worn since signing in 2001.[/quote]
    In response to some of those earlier Juventus comments, does anyone know if they are still going to wear the Nike half and half kit next year? I suppose we can call it the “Serie B” kit.

  • Rich | August 3, 2006 at 2:08 pm |

    [quote comment=”4140″][quote comment=”4130″]Also, the phrase “Never Say Die”, wasn’t that the White Sox marketing pitch last year?[/quote]
    No. It’s Win. Or Die Trying.

    And on an unrelated note, I LOVED the Bucks’ alternate jerseys that Paul derided in today’s Page 2 column.[/quote]

    I liked that jersey too.
    And that Orlando jersey…YIKES! That was truly hideous. That was a good (or bad?) find.

  • skott | August 3, 2006 at 2:10 pm |

    The Admirals logo is the Goonies logo!
    Goonies never say die, too!

    i really like it. simple. bound to sell tons of ’em.

  • Luke | August 3, 2006 at 2:26 pm |

    I’m tivo-ing the FSN replay of last night’s Cards/Phils game. I can’t do screen-grabs, either, but I’ll see if I notice anything. Pujols at-bat in the bottom of the 9th, right?

  • Chris | August 3, 2006 at 2:39 pm |

    In the Rockets uniform from the ESPN article does anyone know why the pinstrips have a slight offset on them, its on the front and back. You can see it just under Olajuwan in the picture. Any ideas?

    http://www.americanm...

  • Gil68 | August 3, 2006 at 2:42 pm |

    I figured it out. The reason the NFL is changing the referee uni is so they can sell more of them. I can’t wait to go get my Ed Hochuli jersey!

  • Kevin | August 3, 2006 at 2:51 pm |

    The Admirals’ logo kind of looks like the guy on this video game cover
    http://www.jeux-et-c...

  • Vic | August 3, 2006 at 2:51 pm |

    Ed Hochuli is going to look like an executioner this season. Let’s hope he has put on another couple pounds of bicep.

  • a arauz | August 3, 2006 at 3:03 pm |

    [quote comment=”4161″]When did the Admirals go from playing hockey to being a Saturday morning cartoon? Serioulsy, the attempt at necromancy is hillarious.

    On a side note, in college we used to drink a cheap knockoff of Captain Morgan called Admiral Nelson. It didn’t go down well, much like that lazy eyed bonehead.[/quote]

    Yer killing me…. you use the word necromancy in a sentence, but mispell hilarious simultaneously….. i was gonna give you a B+, i’ll have to drop that to a C-. :)

  • JTH | August 3, 2006 at 3:03 pm |

    I think the Admirals’ new logo might just be the skull of either Terrance or Phillip.

  • a arauz | August 3, 2006 at 3:04 pm |

    [quote comment=”4163″]On a topic commented on the other day, the Yankees website now has a new picture of Sal Fasano with his NY trimmed moustache. He kinda looks like The Stranger from “The Big Lebowski.”[/quote]

    Drew, I know you mean well, but don’t you EVER insult my Man, Sam Elliot !!!!!

  • Matthew | August 3, 2006 at 3:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”4088″]My guess for the “brick red” mystery is the Cincinatti Reds. We’ve already heard they’ll be replacing the black with navy, and a darker red looks nice with navy blue. Plus, Mr. O’Grady alluded to the phasing out of sleeveless jerseys.

    Regardless of who’s doing it, it should be a nice change. Brick RedBurgundy/Maroon is the one color that’s missing from MLB teams (as a primary color).[/quote]

    The Astros have Brick Red as one of their three colors (along with Black and White) and they have brick red alternate jerseys, although they have been wearing the road ones since late June instead of the road grays. From Astros.com: “The Astros are using the red jersey more than the gray mainly because of comfort. The red jerseys are a lighter weight material, which keeps them cooler during day games in some of the hotter cities.”

    This makes me wonder if they even have the Cool Base jerseys in gray.

  • Matthew | August 3, 2006 at 3:09 pm |

    [quote comment=”4173″]I figured it out. The reason the NFL is changing the referee uni is so they can sell more of them. I can’t wait to go get my Ed Hochuli jersey![/quote]

    Best comment of the day.

  • Math | August 3, 2006 at 3:11 pm |

    As an Admirals fan, I’m on the fence. I like the colors and I like the away jersey. I just don’t think it’s an upgrade over what they had.

    As for the 2 teams with the same nickname, we’ve been the Ads since the early 70s. Norfolk has used it since the late 80s.

    Also, our team was named after a line of refrigerators.

  • Av | August 3, 2006 at 3:15 pm |

    Anyone notice how the mets butcher the look of the uniforms with the solid blue hats by wearing black cleats. Complete uniform disaster. But maybe its not their fault. Does major league baseball have rules on a teams base color for cleats. I can imagine that each member of the team has to wear the same color on a game to game basis, but does is it one color for the whole
    season? They would be much better served wearing black cleats for the black and blue hat/uniform days, and blue for the blue hats. If its not the MLB uni nazis then is it the players not wanting to go back and forth between cleats? anyone have any input on this?

  • Yinzer | August 3, 2006 at 3:22 pm |

    Didnt your mother tell you to always match your shoes to your belt and when in the field match them all to your hat.

  • JTH | August 3, 2006 at 3:25 pm |

    [quote comment=”4180″]The Astros have Brick Red as one of their three colors (along with Black and White) and they have brick red alternate jerseys, although they have been wearing the road ones since late June instead of the road grays. From Astros.com: “The Astros are using the red jersey more than the gray mainly because of comfort. The red jerseys are a lighter weight material, which keeps them cooler during day games in some of the hotter cities.”

    This makes me wonder if they even have the Cool Base jerseys in gray.[/quote]

    I was watching a Cubs game a few weeks ago and Len Kasper said that each team could choose one of its jerseys to be made in a Cool Base version (although he didn’t actually use the term Cool Base) and the Cubs chose the regular home jersey. I guess it was an obvious choice for the Astros to go with one of their road jerseys.

    And for the record, the Astros’ colors are brick red, sand and black.

  • Jared | August 3, 2006 at 3:26 pm |

    [quote comment=”4186″]Anyone notice how the mets butcher the look of the uniforms with the solid blue hats by wearing black cleats. Complete uniform disaster. But maybe its not their fault. Does major league baseball have rules on a teams base color for cleats. I can imagine that each member of the team has to wear the same color on a game to game basis, but does is it one color for the whole
    season? They would be much better served wearing black cleats for the black and blue hat/uniform days, and blue for the blue hats. If its not the MLB uni nazis then is it the players not wanting to go back and forth between cleats? anyone have any input on this?[/quote]

    No, there is not rule against it. The Indians in the 90s – early 2000 wore Red sleeves/socks/shoes @ home and Navy sleeves/socks w/black shoes on the road ……

  • Mark in Shiga | August 3, 2006 at 3:38 pm |

    Speaking of NFL officials’ jerseys, does anyone have a list of their numbers? I’ve been looking around online and can’t find anything.

    What’s the highest referee number? I think I saw #135 recently.

  • Matthew | August 3, 2006 at 3:40 pm |

    [quote comment=”4188″][quote comment=”4180″]The Astros have Brick Red as one of their three colors (along with Black and White) and they have brick red alternate jerseys, although they have been wearing the road ones since late June instead of the road grays. From Astros.com: “The Astros are using the red jersey more than the gray mainly because of comfort. The red jerseys are a lighter weight material, which keeps them cooler during day games in some of the hotter cities.”

    This makes me wonder if they even have the Cool Base jerseys in gray.[/quote]

    I was watching a Cubs game a few weeks ago and Len Kasper said that each team could choose one of its jerseys to be made in a Cool Base version (although he didn’t actually use the term Cool Base) and the Cubs chose the regular home jersey. I guess it was an obvious choice for the Astros to go with one of their road jerseys.

    And for the record, the Astros’ colors are brick red, sand and black.[/quote]

    Good catch JTH, I forgot about sand as a color (thank God they don’t have an alternate jersey in that color).

    I wonder why teams only choose one jersey to be made into a Cool Base Jersey. It seems that you would want most, if not all, of your jerseys to be made into that if it’s cooler than a normal jersey. This would seem especially true if you’re team doesn’t have a home stadium with a retractable roof and air conditioning.

  • Tim | August 3, 2006 at 3:46 pm |

    I don’t know if you have any interest in Shaun Marcum’s autograph, but Shaun Marcum is just asking for a fine with this:
    http://us.i1.yimg.co...

  • nybatt | August 3, 2006 at 3:59 pm |

    astros/padres in throwbacks this afternoon… mid-80’s I’m guessing… astros in the psychadelic rainbow.. and the pods in a very tame brown and yellow look…

    aggrivating that many players are wearing their pajamas in the throwbacks… jeez, couldn’t they respect a little tradition at least in “old” unis??!!??

  • nybatt | August 3, 2006 at 4:03 pm |

    my correction.. they are 1976 unis in san diego……

    AND the padres have doctored each player’s images on the diamond vision to look ’76-ish!!!

    some padre players in those brown stirrup/yellow sanitary combo are intriguing…

  • Tom | August 3, 2006 at 4:14 pm |

    One thing that always bugs me about the throwbacks, would it be too much to get helmets right? The cool-flow helmets esspecially look wrong along with the old unis.

  • JohnnyBoy | August 3, 2006 at 4:15 pm |

    Good catch! Please pardon my inability to type.(and I have a degree in English!)

  • Vic | August 3, 2006 at 4:29 pm |

    If the Reds go to red and navy that would be the worst decision they could make. If they went with a maroon or burgundy that would be ok, but just red and navy would look too much like the Indians, Nationals, Braves, etc.

  • C.J. Andringa | August 3, 2006 at 4:31 pm |

    [quote comment=”4192″]Speaking of NFL officials’ jerseys, does anyone have a list of their numbers? I’ve been looking around online and can’t find anything. What’s the highest referee number? I think I saw #135 recently.[/quote]

    135 was the highest official’s number as of May 2005, and was worn by Pete Morelli (R).

    Numbers NOT used on official’s uniforms in the ’05 season: 1, 13, 23, 56, 69, 79, 95, 100, 102, 104, 105, 111, 117, 119, 131.

    (information taken from the 2005 NFL Record & Fact Book)

  • swat | August 3, 2006 at 4:40 pm |

    Todd Walker was just spotted in the dugout getting his name sewn or glued back on. In three games as a Padre, he’s already committed two errors and managed to wear another faulty uniform.

  • Brett | August 3, 2006 at 4:42 pm |

    Can’t wait to get home and see highlights of the Astros vs Padres. This is what I was talking about a couple of weeks ago… Craig Biggio wearing “Throwback” Uniforms? Hell, he wore those uniforms his first couple of years with the team, when he was a CATCHER.

  • Brian | August 3, 2006 at 4:45 pm |

    [quote comment=”4110″]As was seen in the cool video on the Admirals website yesterday, the story is that their old original logo admiral got lost at sea so they used police sketch artists to keep updating his image for the newer logos (the Admiral did look older in each one). However, he was recently found after being trapped at the bottom of the ocean for years so he had to adapt and become a skeleton. Although I don’t mind the jersey, the logo is way too plain for a skull. My favorite detail is that on the full picture of the admiral he has a peg leg and uses his detachted skeleton leg for a stick! How cool is that?[/quote]
    Why does this story remind me of the old Islanders promotion “who kidnapped Nyisles?” Where all the NHL mascots would come in as “suspects.” Eventually, Carlton the Bear (Toronto) kidnapped and killed the Islanders mascot, all detailed in bullitens handed out before every game. To LITTLE KIDS! I’m still scarred.

  • Scott | August 3, 2006 at 5:04 pm |

    Looking for a person to sponsor my Men’s Ice Hockey Team. The bonus to all Uni Watch readers is that you would design what every jersey you would want us to wear. All you need is about $750.00 to buy the jerseys. You pick the team name, jersery colors and logo. The team is based in Laurel, MD and has won 4 of 5 championships but needs new jerseys. See Link of last year’s championship. Just contact me at SarahJake7@aol.com. Serious Inquiries only. Long term Uni Watch fan, since Slate days, looking for kind help.

  • todd krevanchi (krvanch) | August 3, 2006 at 5:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”4088″]My guess for the “brick red” mystery is the Cincinatti Reds. We’ve already heard they’ll be replacing the black with navy, and a darker red looks nice with navy blue. Plus, Mr. O’Grady alluded to the phasing out of sleeveless jerseys.

    Regardless of who’s doing it, it should be a nice change. Brick RedBurgundy/Maroon is the one color that’s missing from MLB teams (as a primary color).[/quote]

    cincy?
    im all in!
    im sticking with tampa bay for the reasons i gave the other day. they have already come out and said they plan on overhauling the whole operation, uni’s, colors, etc. so it would fit that they would honor the cities baseball history of the tarpons and use their colors.

  • Scott | August 3, 2006 at 5:08 pm |

    Sorry link for above picture of jerseyless team is
    http://www.thegarden...

  • Vic | August 3, 2006 at 5:15 pm |

    cincy?
    im all in!
    im sticking with tampa bay for the reasons i gave the other day. they have already come out and said they plan on overhauling the whole operation, uni’s, colors, etc. so it would fit that they would honor the cities baseball history of the tarpons and use their colors.[/quote]

    So the people of Tampa Bay want to have A fish for a mascot just not a devil ray or a marlin i assume.

  • concealed78 | August 3, 2006 at 5:27 pm |

    Something doesn’t seem quite right about that Padres cap. The SD looks too small and skinny, and the yellow front panel doesn’t curve like it’s supposed to:

    today

    then

    I always thought that cap, teamed up with today’s throwback was the best in Padres history & they should go back to that full-time. It always bothered me that they couldn’t replicate that cap & the early 80s version with orange correctly.

  • Andy | August 3, 2006 at 6:00 pm |

    I think the new Admirals logo is great–well, “very good”, anyway. I give the jerseys with the disembodied head a B+, but the full skeleton design is way cool. I don’t actually know or care who the Admirals are, but I could see buying a t-shirt with the full skeleton on it.

  • Chris In CA | August 3, 2006 at 6:00 pm |

    Why are the Astros wearing home whites? Didn’t they wear those “Big Stick Popsicle” unis in grey back in the day? Looks kind of funky watching two teams in white doing battle. The numbers on the upper right thigh of the Astros pants are awesome!!

    Not uni related, but if you had Adelphia Cable and lost the NFL Network within the past few days because of the recent Time Warner take over, good news for the time being…
    http://news.yahoo.co...

  • concealed78 | August 3, 2006 at 6:22 pm |

    Technically, the Astros road from like 1975-1993 was a light cream color. I can’t tell from the pics, but I think they’re wearing the cream road version.

  • Ryan | August 3, 2006 at 7:01 pm |

    As an Admirals fan, I am disgusted with the new logo… it’s childish, simplistic, and in no way representative of what an “Admiral” is… the jerseys I really wanted to see the Admirals in were their jerseys previous to the last ones…

    A few other things: The Milwaukee Admirals were in the IHL (now defunct) previous to joining the AHL… the AHL at the time, and still, had the Norfolk Admirals, resulting in the teams having the same names… it did make for an interesting game when the Norfolk Admirals came to Milwaukee to take on the Milwaukee Admirals

    And lastly, the new logo closest resembles the skeletal remains of Timmy Turner from the Fairly OddParents

  • Tommy R. | August 3, 2006 at 7:10 pm |

    How could the 1983 White Sox uniform be listed amongst the worst? Maybe I have a soft spot for the ’83 Divisional Champs, but, seriously! No way are those unis worse than say the all orange Orioles, or the black Mets uni, the burgendy or Phillies one, or christ! even the 1970s Sox uniform…but I will admit that I do have a soft spot for the 1977 South Side Hitmen.

  • Josh W | August 3, 2006 at 7:15 pm |

    [quote comment=”4173″]I figured it out. The reason the NFL is changing the referee uni is so they can sell more of them. I can’t wait to go get my Ed Hochuli jersey![/quote]

    haha. Personally, I can’t wait for the Jerry Austin one

  • Tim | August 3, 2006 at 7:15 pm |

    Pedro with the high socks again tonight. Now all we need is a home game so he can wear the blue rather than the black. Either way though, looks great!

  • SATCH | August 3, 2006 at 7:33 pm |

    Hey guys, I know this is not necessarily uniform related, but it is appearance related nonetheless.

    Yesterday, during the Yankees-Blue Jays game, I noticed that the Jays’ newly recalled second bagger Ryan Roberts has several tattoes along his wrists and forearms. He also has one on the left side of his neck. I figure that he has to be the most VISIBLY tattoed player in the Major Leagues. I can only think of a few other players with tattoes. Brett Myers has one on his wrist. Tim Hudson does too. Jason Giambi’s tattoes become visible occasionally when his sleeve is rolled up. Tattoes are more prominent in football and basketball, but that is probably just because those sports allow for more arm and/or leg exposure than baseball. Can anyone think of any other baseball players that are very visibly tattoed?

    Thanks,
    SATCH

  • Chris | August 3, 2006 at 7:48 pm |

    [quote comment=”4173″]I figured it out. The reason the NFL is changing the referee uni is so they can sell more of them. I can’t wait to go get my Ed Hochuli jersey![/quote]

    when can i get my red cashion throwback?

  • Andrew F | August 3, 2006 at 7:49 pm |

    I didn’t watch the Jays-Yankees game, but is there a chance that the black jerseys they wore were Cool Base jerseys, which they may not have in gray? Seeing as how the black jersey is the same for home and road (unlike the mets, who have different home and away black tops) they may only have one set of Cool Base, which would be in black. A quick look at the MLB shopunder authentic uniforms shows only the black available as a Cool Base, whereas the other two are just standard.

  • Lou | August 3, 2006 at 8:07 pm |

    [quote comment=”4214″]Something doesn’t seem quite right about that Padres cap. The SD looks too small and skinny, and the yellow front panel doesn’t curve like it’s supposed to:

    today

    then

    I always thought that cap, teamed up with today’s throwback was the best in Padres history & they should go back to that full-time. It always bothered me that they couldn’t replicate that cap & the early 80s version with orange correctly.[/quote]

    For some reason there are all sorts of problems with making those old Padres caps correctly. I once wrote the president of New Era about and he actually wrote me back.

  • smcs | August 3, 2006 at 8:47 pm |

    [quote comment=”4226″]Hey guys, I know this is not necessarily uniform related, but it is appearance related nonetheless.

    Yesterday, during the Yankees-Blue Jays game, I noticed that the Jays’ newly recalled second bagger Ryan Roberts has several tattoes along his wrists and forearms. He also has one on the left side of his neck. I figure that he has to be the most VISIBLY tattoed player in the Major Leagues. I can only think of a few other players with tattoes. Brett Myers has one on his wrist. Tim Hudson does too. Jason Giambi’s tattoes become visible occasionally when his sleeve is rolled up. Tattoes are more prominent in football and basketball, but that is probably just because those sports allow for more arm and/or leg exposure than baseball. Can anyone think of any other baseball players that are very visibly tattoed?

    Thanks,
    SATCH[/quote]

    Justin Miller, used to pitch for Toronto, among other teams, was so tattoed that he was told to wear sleeves by MLB to cover them up. Here is Justin Miller and I can’t find a suitable picture of Ryan Roberts.

  • Doug | August 3, 2006 at 9:08 pm |

    This was confusing, then I got where they were going… and now I think the ad agency played a trick on the admirals. This is from their website: The Admirals new logo is actually and aged version of the team’s logo from the late 1970’s, a short young lad, who was lost in the waters of Lake Michigan back after the 1981 season and was recently found. The only thing that managed to keep him alive all these years was his fighting spirit. In fact, after one of his legs fell off, he used it as a hockey stick to hone his skills.

    After over 25 years of being underwater, the red white and blue uniform had faded to the black, silver, and ice blue, and had turned his fresh young face into a skull. Despite all of his changes, his fighting spirit never wavered and that relentless spirit and tireless work ethic have given us our new battle cry: Never Say Die!

  • Jason | August 3, 2006 at 9:36 pm |

    For those who haven’t found the link, NFL.com has a video of the new officials’ uniforms in their Video on demand section on the right of the page. The officials will still be wearing knickers in nicer weather, but will have long black pants when the weather turns cold. On the shirts, the black stripes actually become more narrow as they reach the waist. For the cold weather kit, the white stripe on the sleeve continues right down the leg of the pant. I think the black pants look horribly unprofessional — they’re basically black track pants. The shirts look like the NFL’s response to MLB’s old turn ahead the clock nights. Unfortunatley, they’ve turned them ahead to that God-awful remake of Rollerball. However, as a college soccer official, I’d like to thank the NFL for coming out with something that looks goofier than what we have to wear during the fall: OSI NISOA Shirts

  • Chris Pendleton | August 3, 2006 at 10:54 pm |

    [quote comment=”4226″]Hey guys, I know this is not necessarily uniform related, but it is appearance related nonetheless.

    Yesterday, during the Yankees-Blue Jays game, I noticed that the Jays’ newly recalled second bagger Ryan Roberts has several tattoes along his wrists and forearms. He also has one on the left side of his neck. I figure that he has to be the most VISIBLY tattoed player in the Major Leagues. I can only think of a few other players with tattoes. Brett Myers has one on his wrist. Tim Hudson does too. Jason Giambi’s tattoes become visible occasionally when his sleeve is rolled up. Tattoes are more prominent in football and basketball, but that is probably just because those sports allow for more arm and/or leg exposure than baseball. Can anyone think of any other baseball players that are very visibly tattoed?

    Thanks,
    SATCH[/quote]

    Felipe Lopez of the Nationals has a tattoo that is visible on his neck. One of his arms is also covered about 3/4 of the way down, but he usually wears 3/4 length sleeves and covers up the tattoos.

  • aaron | August 3, 2006 at 11:21 pm |

    What about those “future” uniforms that MLB used years back. Does anyone remember those? I can’t find any pics on the internet so i was wondering if anyone knew.

  • Luke | August 3, 2006 at 11:42 pm |

    [quote comment=”4238″]What about those “future” uniforms that MLB used years back. Does anyone remember those? I can’t find any pics on the internet so i was wondering if anyone knew.[/quote]
    Paul had a picture of Bonds in his “future” jersey on an entry a while back. I actually wondered the same thing a few months ago an e-mailed Paul, and he sent a link that had 9 or 10 different pics. I don’t have the link anymore, though…

  • smcs | August 3, 2006 at 11:56 pm |

    [quote comment=”4238″]What about those “future” uniforms that MLB used years back. Does anyone remember those? I can’t find any pics on the internet so i was wondering if anyone knew.[/quote]

    Voila

  • Doug | August 4, 2006 at 12:01 am |

    First off, here’s a link of last season’s crews, but I’m sure there will changes this year. In that spot on Total Access the guy mentioned two new Referees. http://en.wikipedia....

    As far as the new uniforms, a couple things. First and foremost, I’m pretty sure the shorts are just for training camp. Even the new warm weather outfit should have pants.

    Second, I think we’re missing the point of the new digs. Yes, I’ll be the first to admit that they will take some getting used to however if you heard the report it’s more than just the look.

    The league clearly wants to keep their officials as comfortable as possible in order to perform at the highest level. With all the technology and new materials that helps keep athletes cool or warm, why shouldn’t the officials take advantage of it too.

    Sure the old look is timeless, but you could say the same thing about an old wool Brooklyn Dodgers or New York Yankees jersey too, doesn’t mean you’d want to wear it in the dog days of summer.

    I think the biggest difference to me will be the full slacks. That’s just going to look plain odd, kind of like those Flyers Cooperalls in your column today!

  • Nicole | August 4, 2006 at 12:13 am |

    [quote comment=”4188″][quote comment=”4180″]The Astros have Brick Red as one of their three colors (along with Black and White) and they have brick red alternate jerseys, although they have been wearing the road ones since late June instead of the road grays. From Astros.com: “The Astros are using the red jersey more than the gray mainly because of comfort. The red jerseys are a lighter weight material, which keeps them cooler during day games in some of the hotter cities.”

    This makes me wonder if they even have the Cool Base jerseys in gray.[/quote]

    I was watching a Cubs game a few weeks ago and Len Kasper said that each team could choose one of its jerseys to be made in a Cool Base version (although he didn’t actually use the term Cool Base) and the Cubs chose the regular home jersey. I guess it was an obvious choice for the Astros to go with one of their road jerseys.

    And for the record, the Astros’ colors are brick red, sand and black.[/quote]

    I’m not sure I understand why it’s obvious that the Astros would have their road jerseys with the cooler fabric. There division is all us northern folk. Wouldn’t we be working on the theory that on average, throughout the season, it would be much hotter in Houston than Milwaukee, Chicago, St. Louis, Cincy and Pittsburgh?

    So wouldn’t it make more sense for their cooler jerseys to be the ones they where in the Houston heat and humidity?

  • Sam | August 4, 2006 at 1:06 am |

    [quote comment=”4242″][quote comment=”4238″]What about those “future” uniforms that MLB used years back. Does anyone remember those? I can’t find any pics on the internet so i was wondering if anyone knew.[/quote]

    Voila[/quote]

    Man, that Brewer’s logo with on the future jersey is SWEET. They should adopt it as an alternate.

  • Brian | August 4, 2006 at 1:33 am |

    [quote comment=”4168″]Interesting Article
    Read it here
    I think think of a better way of sending someone a message than by giving away that person’s uni number.
    [quote]Jose Mourinho is taking a hard line over William Gallas, whose Chelsea future looks increasingly in doubt with Michael Ballack being given the No13 shirt that the French defender has worn since signing in 2001.[/quote]

    In response to some of those earlier Juventus comments, does anyone know if they are still going to wear the Nike half and half kit next year? I suppose we can call it the “Serie B” kit.[/quote]
    Yes, Nike will still sponsor Juve.

    The World Cup Jerseys always dictate the subsequent club team designs. Therefore, Puma teams are bland (they have the blank front with no underweave, see SPURS), adidas teams all look the same (Real Madrid/Chelsea, plus pretty much every other team out there), and Nike teams have simplistic, classic looks. Who doesn’t love this Juve shirt? Classic, conservative, retroish style! (aka the complete opposite directon from where they’re going with american football).

    Nike is putting out the best shirts in soccer right now (in addition, the Nike Sphere Dry fabric is really sweet).

  • Luke | August 4, 2006 at 1:49 am |

    [quote comment=”4246″][quote comment=”4188″][quote comment=”4180″]The Astros have Brick Red as one of their three colors (along with Black and White) and they have brick red alternate jerseys, although they have been wearing the road ones since late June instead of the road grays. From Astros.com: “The Astros are using the red jersey more than the gray mainly because of comfort. The red jerseys are a lighter weight material, which keeps them cooler during day games in some of the hotter cities.”

    This makes me wonder if they even have the Cool Base jerseys in gray.[/quote]

    I was watching a Cubs game a few weeks ago and Len Kasper said that each team could choose one of its jerseys to be made in a Cool Base version (although he didn’t actually use the term Cool Base) and the Cubs chose the regular home jersey. I guess it was an obvious choice for the Astros to go with one of their road jerseys.

    And for the record, the Astros’ colors are brick red, sand and black.[/quote]

    I’m not sure I understand why it’s obvious that the Astros would have their road jerseys with the cooler fabric. There division is all us northern folk. Wouldn’t we be working on the theory that on average, throughout the season, it would be much hotter in Houston than Milwaukee, Chicago, St. Louis, Cincy and Pittsburgh?

    So wouldn’t it make more sense for their cooler jerseys to be the ones they where in the Houston heat and humidity?[/quote]

    I think what he meant was that Minute Maid has a retractable roof and A/C, so they can just close the roof when it gets too hot and not worry about the jerseys. And also, St. Louis is probably one of the hottest places to play in the summer, if not the hottest.

  • Greg | August 4, 2006 at 2:27 am |

    The Astros’ throwbacks look pretty white to me. Dig Morgan Ensberg’s stirrups!

  • Jamie from Columbus | August 4, 2006 at 3:15 am |

    With the Reds going to Navy blue, I think they are looking for a retro look and having the Red and White as the major color with Nave blue for the trim and nothing more like in the 60’s where you can see here: http://creamerlogos2...

  • Nicole | August 4, 2006 at 8:21 am |

    [quote comment=”4247″][quote comment=”4242″][quote comment=”4238″]What about those “future” uniforms that MLB used years back. Does anyone remember those? I can’t find any pics on the internet so i was wondering if anyone knew.[/quote]

    Voila[/quote]

    Man, that Brewer’s logo with on the future jersey is SWEET. They should adopt it as an alternate.[/quote]

    That’s not a new logo, that’s a very old, seldom used anymore Brewers logo. It was actually their logo back when they were a minor league team and then it made a comeback when the Braves left and the Brewers became an American League team. He was there til 1977, when we got the glove logo. He’s called the Beer Barrel Man and if you Wikipedia him, you’ll find some info.

  • Rich | August 4, 2006 at 8:44 am |

    [quote comment=”4235″]For those who haven’t found the link, NFL.com has a video of the new officials’ uniforms in their Video on demand section on the right of the page. The officials will still be wearing knickers in nicer weather, but will have long black pants when the weather turns cold. On the shirts, the black stripes actually become more narrow as they reach the waist. For the cold weather kit, the white stripe on the sleeve continues right down the leg of the pant. I think the black pants look horribly unprofessional — they’re basically black track pants. The shirts look like the NFL’s response to MLB’s old turn ahead the clock nights. Unfortunatley, they’ve turned them ahead to that God-awful remake of Rollerball. However, as a college soccer official, I’d like to thank the NFL for coming out with something that looks goofier than what we have to wear during the fall: OSI NISOA Shirts[/quote]

    Call me crazy, but I think those NISOA unis are pretty sharp.

  • Jim | August 4, 2006 at 8:54 am |

    [quote comment=”4243″]The league clearly wants to keep their officials as comfortable as possible in order to perform at the highest level. With all the technology and new materials that helps keep athletes cool or warm, why shouldn’t the officials take advantage of it too.[/quote]

    Two words: Under Armour

    By the time the football season comes to a close, I officiate a few games in cold weather. I wear a few layers, and I still have room for movement. I wear a jersey lined with a special “weatherbeater” material, a turtleneck, an UnderArmour mock turtleneck, and a t-shirt. I’ve never been cold, I can still move my arms freely. I also wear thermal UA tights underneath my weatherbeater-lined knickers, and that’s more than comfortable.

    The only body parts that feel the cold significantly are my hands and feet, and redesigning the uniforms will not change that.

  • Karen | August 4, 2006 at 10:24 am |

    [quote comment=”4256″][quote comment=”4235″]For those who haven’t found the link, NFL.com has a video of the new officials’ uniforms in their Video on demand section on the right of the page. The officials will still be wearing knickers in nicer weather, but will have long black pants when the weather turns cold. On the shirts, the black stripes actually become more narrow as they reach the waist. For the cold weather kit, the white stripe on the sleeve continues right down the leg of the pant. I think the black pants look horribly unprofessional — they’re basically black track pants. The shirts look like the NFL’s response to MLB’s old turn ahead the clock nights. Unfortunatley, they’ve turned them ahead to that God-awful remake of Rollerball. However, as a college soccer official, I’d like to thank the NFL for coming out with something that looks goofier than what we have to wear during the fall: OSI NISOA Shirts[/quote]

    Call me crazy, but I think those NISOA unis are pretty sharp.[/quote]

    You are crazy!

    (someone had to say it)

    Though they maynot be quite as bad as the ’94 World Cup ref’s jerseys

  • Mark in Shiga | August 4, 2006 at 12:47 pm |

    Doug, thanks for the NFL referee list! That’s just what I was wanting.

    Just keep those old jerseys, but make them in a lighter fabric!

  • Wes C | August 4, 2006 at 2:41 pm |

    Unrelated:

    There was minor league madness in Spokane last night. It was Hawaii night.

  • Brinke | August 4, 2006 at 7:03 pm |

    shouldn’t Vince Young actually DO something on the field as an actual PLAYER before he get’s his own logo?

  • Jared | August 5, 2006 at 2:41 pm |

    [quote comment=”4391″]Unrelated:

    There was minor league madness in Spokane last night. It was Hawaii night.[/quote]

    I would ROCK the SHIT out of those

  • Austin Gray | August 5, 2006 at 5:09 pm |

    What shocks me most about the Admirals’ new logo is the typeface. Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t it look starkly similar to a Mac system font? Chicago or Charcoal or something? I believe it was the default font for OS9. Seems more than a little lazy to me, in an era when most teams seem to be making their own custom fonts. Truly embarassing.

    As for the Juventus question, they will not be wearing the half-and-half jersey that was a possibility at one point. They are going with traditional stripes. And seeing as how they are not playing in the Champions League, I don’t think the half-and-half will be an alternate, either.

  • Jason | August 6, 2006 at 2:39 am |

    [quote comment=”4285″]Though they maynot be quite as bad as the ’94 World Cup ref’s jerseys[/quote]

    Actually, they’re based off of the ’94 World Cup design. The gold shirt has been around since the late 90s, when USSF still wore fuschia as an alternate.

    BTW, before you knock a bright pink shirt on a referee, you have to realize that I never had to change shirts back then. If you showed up in fuschia, you could rest assured that neither team was going to wear a comparable color.

  • Colin Morton | August 6, 2006 at 4:52 pm |

    Won’t black slacks make NFL officials look like this?

  • Admirals suck | November 7, 2006 at 8:51 am |

    Obviously the skull was drawn in a certain style and whoever drew it I am sure could draw anything better than any of you lame ass sports fans who couldn’t appreciate anything creative or artistic anyways. You devote your pathetic lives to grown men swatting a piece of rubber with a stick.